Sinister: Adam's Curse
This is what Kevin Parker wrote a few days ago: Anyway i gave her a call and she told me she had "Big News" and she told me all about her first boyfriend who is a Downs boy called Jamie and how happy she was well her vocabulary is a little limited so my mother helped her out. Anyway I have always wanted her to have as normal, whatever the fuck that is, life as possible and so i had this double realisation that she may go through all the things that make the rest of us who we are and that she is growing up etc. Anyway so all this was pretty moving and i was on the train going back to my apartment with rather moist eyes because i was so happy for her, but also I was a little bit upset because I am no longer the most important male in her life, which is a good thing but a little difficult to deal with at first, and i put my walkman on and i had forgotten what i was listening to before and it was " TIGERMILK" well to be specific " I Dont love anyone " and there was that line about " except maybe my sister...maybe my baby brother too" and I thought what a self involved twat I am sometimes thinking about the mess I make of relationships and that love doesnt exist its a "finely tuned jealousy" or whatever, sometimes a little naivity really does help put things in perspective. Um, Kevin if you happen to read this, I hope I'm not embarrassing you by writing this, but this is the sort of thing that makes people beautiful. This makes me believe that love exists. It's too bad that everything isn't beautiful at once, or we can't see it that way, but that's where the poem "Adam's Curse" fits in. I'm glad that Nick Dastoor upholds romance, but when he says things like this: There was once a terrific song by a band called Airhead went 'Funny how the girls you fall in love with never fancy you / funny how the ones you don't do'. It predated the crap-breezy-indie-rock craze by several years. Thinking about it, Airhead are a perfect example of the artless product of a people who aren't artists. And that's why we can all relate to it so well. Cuz you know it *is* funny how the girls you fall in love with never fancy you. And you know what's SO IRONIC - how the ones you don't DO. Sheesh! I'm not so sure I believe him because isn't this a milder version of what he questioned Owen about? Doesn't it become a fiendish power struggle because we think this way? Isn't what Nick writes the precursor of questions like "Who likes who more?" within relationships? Did sheep come up because we are blinded by our love for Belle & Sebastian? One thing that disturbs me a bit is the new tone that Stuart Murdoch takes in his writing. Disturbs is too strong. But if he wrote the sleeve notes for "Tigermilk", the way he writes, the person he is, has changed. Both sides still come up. The end of his bit on the Belle & Sebastian page was the older him, but why did he spend so much time describing Mr. Funai? Was it in recognition of the fact that he himself had grown older and that his behavior had become more commonplace? Or had his view of the world grown larger to incorporate characters like Mr. Funai as worth writing about in their own right? And in his latest piece for the Glasgow University Guardian, there was the part with cool narration - Jack Daniels and Foxy, and then phrases like "the frisson of pre-match joy". But why go so far to the other extreme as "cunting"? I hope the excesses in that direction are just a phase, like having to reject Nick Drake's work on account of all the comparisons. Yesterday morning I watched "Jules and Jim" again cos no one else was up yet and one of my housemates had checked it out from the library. It would be dangerous for a girl or woman to imagine herself as Catherine. The sort of thing recounted in "Minor Character", a Lloyd Cole & the Commotions song on "Easy Pieces". I used to be guilty of this, but my aspirations only went so far as the be the woman in "Minor Character". Jules actually upstages her. He's noble. There's a scene where Catherine reaches over Jules when they are in bed to answer the phone. There's a scene in "Scenes from a Marriage" where the wife reaches over the husband (I forget the characters' names) to turn off the alarm clock. These are the scenes of intimacy I love. In the beginning of "L'amour l'apres-midi" (a film by Rohmer), the husband is sitting on the sofa cutting the pages of a book, and he remarks on the pleasure of reading in the presence of his wife. Each person being able to do their own thing but secure in the presence of the other. And the song "Kooks" by David Bowie. I love any song that mentions dropping out of school or throwing homework on the fire. Stuart David's songs may seem naive, but in a way they are not. I discovered this poem from a record that my high school English teacher had of a college professor of his reading poetry. He went to a Calvinist college, so the professor read with the intonation of a minister. The poem is by Yeats. "Adam's Curse" We sat together at one summer's end, That beautiful mild woman, your close friend, And you and I, and talked of poetry. I said, "A line will take us hours maybe; Yet if it does not seem a moment's thought, Our stitching and unstitching has been naught. Better go down upon your marrow-bones And scrub a kitchen pavement, or break stones Like an old pauper, in all kinds of weather; For to articulate sweet sounds together Is to work harder than all these, and yet Be thought an idler by the noisy set Of bankers, schoolmasters, and clergymen The martyrs call the world." And thereupon That beautiful mild woman for whose sake There's many a one shall find out all heartache On finding that her voice is sweet and low Replied, "To be born woman is to know - Although they do not talk of it at school - That we must labor to be beautiful." I said, "It's certain there is no find thing Since Adam's fall but needs much laboring. There have been lovers who thought love should be So much compounded of high courtesy That they would sigh and quote with learned looks Precedents out of beautiful old books; Yet now it seems an idle trade enough." We sat grown quiet at the name of love; We saw the last embers of daylight die, And in the trembling blue-green of the sky A moon, worn as if it had been a shell Washed by time's waters as they rose and fell About the stars and broke in days and years. I had a thought for no one's but your ears: That you were beautiful, and that I strove To love you in the old high way of love; That it had all seemed happy, and yet we'd grown As weary-hearted as that hollow moon. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". 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and she told me all about her first boyfriend who is a Downs boy called Jamie and how happy she was well her vocabulary is a little limited so my mother helped her out. Anyway I have always wanted her to have as normal, whatever the fuck that is, life as possible
the husband is sitting on the sofa cutting the pages of a book,<< am i mistaken, or is france one of the last countries where books with uncut pages are sold in larger amounts? it's a great thing. Makes you feel that the book really belongs to you when you
i've been working at a school for mentally disabled people during my civil service, and i was surprised to see how exactly the same their love-life was compared to 'normal' kids of their age.. love, heartbreak, jealousy, it's all there. it seems more natural and heartfelt in them though.. seeing one of those boys look at 'his' girl with this look of warm affection - when the rest of the world dismisses both as stupid and ugly - is wonderful. personally cut the pages. there's even one french author (julien gracq) who insits on printing all his books uncut. a good chap he is.
That's true: No swedich talks to you << hey, that's odd. i always thought swedes were so warm and welcoming. i guess that it's more because of the big city.. it was rather hard to get to know anyone in paris at first, too, and i know that people are a lot nicer in the rest of france. I am not very sure of how awful life in Paris is...<< but apart of this, it's great :) you just need some time to get the hang of it. I think the problem with living in big cities for a longer time is that you are horrified at the thought of one day having to live in a city with less than 3 million people again, which kinda reduces the choice if you want to change countries.. big cities are addictive. You feel dead when you leave them. That's probably the reason they grow bigger and bigger, ha ha.
time has gone, the song is over, thought of something more to say..... j The Dark Site of the Moon: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/index.html Tindersticks page: http://perso.club-internet.fr/jimgrund/tinderpage/tinder.html To love oneself is the beginning of a lifelong romance. -Oscar Wilde +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Jan Imgrund wrote:
That's true: No swedich talks to you << hey, that's odd. i always thought swedes were so warm and welcoming. i guess that it's more because of the big city.. it was rather hard to get to know anyone in paris at first, too, and i know that people are a lot nicer in the rest of france.
I guess you are right. In fact I only know Stockholm so I shouldn't have done a generalisation like that +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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