You know... it's interesting that with all this hoopla over J&A, most people have either condemned Jessica or condemned Jessica & Ahren, but no one's actually said anything negative solely with Ahren. If Ahren didnt want to shift Jessica because of "loyalty" to his girlfriend (who I'd say is more of a sex partner and not a girlfriend) then he could have just fended her off - instead, he welcomed her advance. If people really want to condemn someone over this (rather than minding their own business!) then I'd suggest blaming the person who already has the girlfriend/boyfriend - after all, regardless of the advance, it's really not that difficult to say "no" to a peer. mike ps - btw i loooved the "property" comment, I must You Go Girl to Tragedienne, that's a very witty B&Sism there :-) In a message dated 11/24/98 07:30:27 AM, tragedienne@yahoo.com wrote: <<"okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little groping." Normally, I would say "You go girl!!", but Ahren's got a girlfriend, so this makes the two of you partners in mischief. If Ahren were my man, oh the two of you would get a swift ass-whooping! Aren't there plenty of single men to seduce? God, some women just have no respect for other women's property!>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+