about the A# / Bb thing...I originally wrote it as Bb, actually, but just didn't like how Bbm looked, so I changed it :) I assume what you mean by Bb is the following chord? (sorry if it looks weird, i'm just writing this in the AOL mail box, and the text characters are uneven) EADGbe x13331 Well, by A# I meant 688766. I originally played it with the other method, but if you listen closely, you can here the strumming guitar's strings get a lot of fret noise between chords, that is, he's sliding up the neck. Ultimately I find it easier to play like this, I hate playing barre chords on the 1st and 3rd frets. gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+