As sent to Alix Campbell: I wasn't telling anyone what to write or what not to write. I tried to make it as nice as possible. I was just trying to give my opinion. You don't have to like what I say; that's your opinion. I like to let the world know what I think, and I think it's not so great to hear about assumed relationships and lifestyles of band members, or what some person who likes B&S had for breakfast--that was all I was saying. You said, "The point is, the lives and opinions of the listees are frequently more interesting and funny than staying on topic," and that only proves my point of 'opinion.' But the topic (B&S) is quite interesting, in my opinion, and if you don't think so, than I ask you, 'Why are you on this list?' I'm on this list because I would like to know the band's developments, accomplishments, and what their fans think about these things. So much is happening with the band right now that there should be plenty to talk about. I don't believe that I was being patronizing; I was trying to be as polite as possible about the situation. And who needs virtual cyber friends anyway? If you can't make friends with living, breathing people in the flesh, then you have problems. I enjoy communicating with fellow B&S fans, but I don't think a good, meaningful friendship could possibly be made through typing simple words. I'm interested in people's opioins and ideas and what is happening with the band Belle and Sebastian and maybe some similar bands, and that is why I am on this list, and that's what I thought this list was about. ...CARMEN... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/12/98, at 10:35 PM, Alix Campbell wrote:
darling listy wisty
i am not easily offended, but what upsets me is people telling others what to write, or not to write. Carmen's post wasn't very nice, and inaccurate. It's not as if the topic is so far removed from B&S that we continually talk about australasian sheep farming techniques, or the like. if we talked exclusively about b&S, where would we be? discussions concerned solely with the middle eight of mary jo?, the merits of the slow version of seeing other people?. interesting - yes, but not forever. And who's to say that this isn't the topic anyway? Tear me apart and boil my bones, but being patronising is no way to win friends. But perhaps she doesn't want to. If so, i'd assume that maybe she expects something different from a list. So, my apologies, Carmen, i'm glad you like B&S, but you don't seem interested in the other people who like them too, and surely that is an integral part to this list?. But anyway, chances are she won't read this; there's no b&s content.
this is the last time i'm going to be so horrid.
alix. c
*****yes I KNOW i've been just as patronising, and opinionated.
"So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland'
wot carmen sed.........
You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple--who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please.
Kindly, ...CARMEN...
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The luscious M* Laurel spoke truthfully when she said: "MRS. Honey? i believe you meant MIZ. a true tart never divulges her marital status." Implying that no-one's made an honest Honey of me, which is very true. Well this Miz Honey's in a mood because I just told you all how to behave, ooo, was it two days ago? And specifically, that no-one should be discussing ON the list WHAT the list is about. /me puts my hands on my hips. Look it's very simple. I'm the only one who's allowed to discuss list content. The reason's straightforward: if anyone else does then the list disappears up its own backside and stops being about anything else but itself. This is a classic rule of mailing lists and you should know this by now; the only person who knows anything about nice backsides is the very fragrant and dazzling Mark C. Please everyone who's posting yes or nos about what it's about please think for one second how completely self-defeating it is. All the information on list content is in the FAQ, and is not the subject of on-list debate, go and have a little think the few who are doing it. This is the last warning, anyone else prolonging this very tedious game of ping-pong will be unceremoniously cut off without a penny. If you want to do it there are plenty of other mailing lists where it is tolerated, nay, encouraged but they aren't here. No more please and no more discussing about whether there should be any more, or indeed whether we should be discussing that. Oh indeed saying sorry. Send a cheery mail about B&S related smut instead or something, and your soul will be redeemed. A few points of order and then I will go: o It is certainly bad etiquette, and almost certainly technically *illegal* to forward private mails to a mailing list. The copyright of an email remains with the originator. And besides we don't need to know about alleged insulting behaviour behind our backs - you can be rude to each other for hours off Sinister, because I'm not the form monitor in your life, it's just I won't have it on Sinister, because it's boring for the rest of us. o On a more personal note it's also staggeringly untrue in personal experience that "good meaningful relationships" can't come through words, i.e. mailing lists. I'm thrilled to say I've found some of the closest and sweetest yummiest friends I've ever had through this humble list, and I suspect I will know some of them all my life if I behave. I also know of a number of serious relationships going well into double figures that have happened through Sinister. So watch out! You never know what might happen. OK, I admit it, for once this email might have been directed at a few people, but let me assure you it's not just one, and please don't feel victimised, I'm just putting the house in order. And that everyone's still welcome on this list, and that if you send me personal mail on this, I probably won't be able to reply for ages, and please don't assume I'm therefore in a mood, email is tricky for me to keep up with just now, that's all. And therefore the possibility of the Vengeance of the Lord being swift and unforgiving if this isn't heeded is therefore relatively high, compared to, say, the possibility of me going for a jog tomorrow. But NO MORE on this please. This is Year Zero. Thank you, tarty ms honey P.S. Who was that at the back who just said "I like your earlier, funny mails"? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
People should get off Carmen's back. After all, suppressing her "opinions" would be doing what she is trying to do to us. To be honest, the more I listen to B&S , the more I pick up on brilliantly crafted little hidden "refs" in the so-called digressing conversations. And you're wrong about making a general assumption about cyper-friends. Admittedly, I think it's a bit sad when people get internet -boyfriends etc but if your writing is strong enough to cater for what is absent when communicating through email then, the other stuff doesn't matter. But really, I genuinely think she did mean it in a positive way and this may get out of hand (the bitchiness vibe it's giving off) if it continues. So lets make a pact never to squabble again, deal, listees ? oodles and oddles of huggies and kissies to all my email mates... dee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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