In reply to ermmm....bah...sorry, forgotten who it was...silly me...but rating indie clubs in those groovy cities you mentioned, I would say as thus: London: Astoria, Tottenham Court Road: Pretty darn good for indie-stylee gigs. I saw Bis and Kenickie there in my day. Never heard any B&S though, but I was going through a stripey tights phase so I would have prolly gone to the bar when they played 'em anyway. Borderline, Charing X Road I think: Caters a bit more for the 20-somethings, heard B&S there once. I liked it. Birmingham: Snobs, erm..some road or another in the city centre, people will know it if you ask very nicely: S'okay..has its moments but the excess of swirly-twirly keyboardy 70's stuff can get annoying. Nice and dark though, so good for snogging indie-boys. I did ask for some B&S there the other week but the DJ poo-pooed me and played Beck instead. Edwards: Behind New St. Station. Never been there but I have heard good things about it. Sputnik, Temple Row: More of a pub than a club, but nice and dingy and indie-inducing there. ________________________________________________________________________ --> get your free, private gURLmail account at http://www.gURLmail.com !! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+