I had a very similar experience to the one you spoke of whilst trying to convince a jazz purist friend of mine to give B+S a chance. After listening to a few choice selections from TBWTA he claimed it was "Keith Curley music;" Keith Curley being our town's resident dirtball, quasi-hippy, wastrel. Needless I took particular offense to this. He said it sounded like they couldn't play very well together and that Struan sounded way too "gay" for him to be able to get into their music. He likes bands for very arbitrary reasons so I shouldn't have been suprised, but the fact that he could bash B+S so gleefully just really got under my skin. I don't mean to rant, but... I went to Ocean City, Maryland over the weekend to ostensibly relax and crash a few go-karts or something. Whilst wearing a wrinkled dress shirt under a grey woolen sweater with grey/green khakis and Chuck Taylor's, a drunken fratboy took time from his busy routine of being an ass to stagger over to me and call me "French." After spewing said "expletive" he drunkenly ambled away into the crowd leaving me and my friend to wonder when being French became an insult. I got a good laugh out of it though so it wasn't too bad. Apparently any evidence of tweeness (or Frenchness!) in American resorts is grounds for ridicule nowadays. I'm not even that twee really, I just the dress the part you could say. Some people... Steve C. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+