for a change if we are taking things along these lines, I will agree with you jo that there is no comparison to be made between the butterflies and b&s, but for all the reviews and the spell I fell under at the gig, I think they are average. for me they created a magical atmosphere with sub-pavement tunes and a lot of charming conversation. sorry. but listening again, there is little there to be proud of. I dont think this is the opinion of a smiths-style dreamer, just someone with an ear for a tune. Like all unique musical happenings, like the beatles or what have you, of course people compare new bands back to great bands like B and s , but I think this is cos when you hear something you cant quite expalin the easiest thing is to relate it to other things a la "b&s or divine comedy ish yet with a jarvis cocker-like singer and something like Tortoise clapping?" (the chemistry experiment.. ??? anyone)??) its also possibly because bands like B and S have influenced a lot of people since they rose to 'fame' and no dount more bands with a b& s edge will come to the fore with time as the influences filter up to the surface. I reckon it takes a few years to filter though , so jo you may yet have to deal with more of this - but rather than blind comparisons made by b&s lovers, I think they will probably be realistic. and when I think of various fan type groups B&s fans are seemingly extremely open to new music. Once into meandering jazz/ nu-metal / steeleye span, always... rx

From: Jo tomas <jo_is_18@yahoo.co.uk> Reply-To: Jo tomas <jo_is_18@yahoo.co.uk> To: sinister@missprint.org Subject: Sinister: pale immitations for paul Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 01:55:03 -0700 (PDT)

Paul Healey saw Tompaulin and thought they were a pale immitation of you know who. Who would that be Paul ? The Jesus and marychain ? I love belle and sebastian but I really don't see the comparison. You see I also love Tompaulin and I love The Butterflies. I think that you were at a different concert.

"tompaulin tonight are noisier and more assertive than we remember them. From the Mary Chain bassline in Carcrash to the drenching feedback at the end of Swing Low Stuart, the band match sweet vocals with barbed guitar noise and exchange confession for confrontation." sounds sxp

The Butterflies of Love were also magnificent. They have also been tagged with the Belle And Sebastian comparions, though not by you Paul! They are a noisy feedback band. It made sense to see Tompaulin and The Buterflies Of Love together. I wory that Belle and Sebastian are becoming our Smiths. By this I mean that new bands are stifled by imposible comparisons they can't live up to and that there is no room for any serious discussion on the merits of recent work.

anyway

joxx

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