Sinister: beat patrol, thoughts on evolution of consciousness
greetings, nothing witty to start out with..... iv'e just finished off my champagne and chinese food as my sickness seems to have disappeared, thank heaven. so i'm a bit out of it, but not that much. Firstly, the dapper and helpful weeJay has suggested to me RE the Isobel shrine, that such a structure would be lacking without the benefit of the isobel interview in the beat patrol recording. *sigh* would any sweet souls be willing to help me out, if not for charity and posterity, then for appropriate recompense?? just a thought. i've been probably too busy asking for things around here. but it's hard living in the Bible Belt. *whine, whine, whine* leave alone the nice fella who likes the gate, eh? let us enjoy our isobel in peace. we never bothered you all with your stinky "century of elvis" did we?? (Without intent to generalize!=) i just read the belle lettres the other day, and let me say i was touched beyond words. maybe it hit a little too close to home for me at this time. it was quite beautiful. like i said iw as touched beyond words, so not much to say. i'd like to thank MTV for showcasing a relentless pile of crap ska and industrial and joke-rock, and billing it as an alternative to mainstream crap. this provides me with endless amusement at other's expense. oh looky, another bunch of dork-wads with spiked hair and bug sunglasses and snowboards on their record covers, i can hardly wait for the wisdom this lot will surely spew. i think we should all go to 120 minutes page and deluge them with so many belle and sebastian requests that their server goes down. they had i noticed last week, a clip for is it wicked on the openeing page of 120 minutes section, i was quite shocked as i had never even been to that page before. i really need to put in my lousy 2 cents, that will surely make a difference against the million emails they get daily reading like so: "Hey Carson, you rock!! would you PLEEEEZE play the offspring's ""Pretty Fly (For a White Guy)" for me and my boyfriend Jaymes? he thinks those naked girls by the pool are SOOOO sexy!!!" well i supose it couldn't hurt to pretend to be a nice fuzzy sweater movement and request fuzzy music instead of, uh, well crap. as per youth movements i think someone said this in a way, but seems we have almost moved beyond the point of authentic singularity in groups as a trend--in the sense that everything has been recycled, we are only taking the basics planted before and moving them to the next level, as it were, amalgamating all prior knowledge and reforming it to suit the advancement of our consciousness. now we have fake movements like the current apparent revival of disco/electronic/sugary/single-phrase beyond-retro pop, like that music sounds better with you song. what is the deal with that anyway? dmitri from paris fits into there too, in my view. istn' belle and sebastian a bit of an appropriate denial of such, that masquerades as innovative, but is fundamentially empty. some things can't really be improved upon. sounds can be re-designed and mixed up, but without the emotion and substance behind it, it's only a stopping point on the road to someone who can utilize it within a larger context. fatboy slim maybe nice background noise, but who's gonna hear that and have a revelation of spirit??? enough of my silly opinions. (not!) i think we are a nice pseudo-movement. i dont know isn't that a bit of an indie 'trend' that of connecting more directly to the fans, grass roots so to speak? but that's a lot of DIY too from punk. punk was necessary to break out at that time, but punk is outdated now, the ethic has been interpolated into day-to-day so the extreme is obsolete. isn't it, really.... niceness is a kind of revolt now, away from the me me 80's, and away from the millenial furor and marilyn manson's supposed rebellion which is really as i stated, obsolete, we've had all that already, there is no more shocking thing to do than smile at your neighbor and ride buses quietly. it's a nice respite from those who claim we're gonna have to go MAD to move intothe next century, but we know don't we, there is going to be no paradigm shift a la PUNK extremes, 2001 comes and sad librarians will still be singing about their dogs on wheels, and i'll still be thinking of my photo jeny. all those who think it's going to explode are going to be crushed by their own predictions. we sit in our windows watching them go by, and turn back to drink some tea and toast the new era. there are better ways of evolving and i think we have got it all right. So who want's to blow up the Capitol building eh? eh? let's resurrect gg allin!!! cheers to all the luvverly kiddies who have got their placid boots on right. not docile, passively resistant. the best way to make a bully mad, is to ignore them and go on with your business. we'll show them ... jonathon richman, what the hell??? i have lost patience with the pseudo millenium. there is no such thing. well enough to have dirty dreams again, lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". 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At 11:54 PM 12/6/98 -0800, Lesley J. Miller wrote:
i think we are a nice pseudo-movement. i dont know isn't that a bit of an indie 'trend' that of connecting more directly to the fans, grass roots so to speak? but that's a lot of DIY too from punk. punk was necessary to break out at that time, but punk is outdated now, the ethic has been interpolated into day-to-day so the extreme is obsolete. isn't it, really....
niceness is a kind of revolt now, away from the me me 80's.
i'm not convinced b&s is all about niceness rather than communication. the basis for a lot of their lyrics is twisted social relations, not patting each other on the back and saying "cheers". the fans that surround the music are more likely drawn together by the lyrical wit, catchy melodies, and self-effacing mannerisms mixed with an honesty about all the things we know aren't wonderful and take in stride anyway. is there is a certain sort of solitude that's odd that we share? the one thing i find most interesting about this list is that so many posts go unanswered and yet we cling to the submissions. it's the conflict between needing personal relationships and needing distance to prolong a tension of being solo that maybe is a part of everyone's character. i think this bi-polarity of attraction/repulsion is mirrored in what the internet is all about - connecting and disconnecting, not always sync at the same time, but circling each other with interest, fear, and hope. anyway, i find even talking about this is like viewing the cornfield as a crow in the sky and knowing the husks are full, the scarecrows are unpredictably placed, and i'm hungry. does anyone correspond by handwritten letters anymore? maybe someone should gather up an assortment of all the "real" addresses of people on the list, randomly distribute them and have each list member write someone else without ever expecting any responses. maybe one letter every two months. short or long, but with the same sort of content as people are pouring out on this list. senor droolcup <- penless in seattle +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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