Allow me to make a few points 1. Bis - Im actually a big fan of shouting in pop - but only where it has some kind of emotional resonance. I dont think this applies in songs by band whose major emotional traumas appear to be when John Smiths run out of that Jad Fair compilation that John Disco has been desperately seeking. 2. Uresei - Ive been unfortunate enough to see Uresei more than once - I first saw them on some showcase thing with the Delgados and The Secret Goldfish a few years back ( and what a thrilling night that was). I then had the misfortune to see them supporting Pavement in Newcastle. The Sheffield thing i only went to see Prolapse. i hung around , like the open minded chap i am, to see if they had improved any. They hadn't. Oh and if you dont think class is important in pop, after the likes of Crispin Mills, i think you're very much mistaken. 3. Arab Strap. Oh but i have tried to understand. And im not against "difficult" music. Just bad music. 4.Idlewild . Beleive me, its all true. 5. Punk - Im one of those misguided souls who thinks punk died circa 1977. I shudder to think what your average punk audience would have made of poor wee Steven. 6. BMX Bandits - You may classify Belle and Sebastian as twee wank for students , but i certainly don't. 7. Secret Goldfish - I did - it isnt . I think that belongs to lazy Line painter jane , by some twee student band or other. 8. The Delagados - The first time ive heard them mentioned in the same sentence as Captain beefheart, and hopefully the last. 9. Mogwai - Didnt i say they can be excellent? 10. Work for the NME? me? After all the death threats i wrote over the last Morrissey review? - perhaps not. Cheers popkids Iain/ Dreadful escuse for a human being ( delete as appropriate) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For unsubscribing, list rules, Tigermilk and sessions tapes, . please see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . *** B&S new LP worldwide release 7th September, tour news etc. at *** . *** http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/news.html *** . Coinini athasach ata muid - ag canuint amhrain na . coinini - nach bhfuilimid? -----------------------------------------------------------------------