Hey ho sinister, Theres a few bits to this post, so feel free to skip to the bit that interests you. ***************************** STINE GOT TO THE POINT "i must say that after this whole "twee" debate i have reached a very important conclusion.....mark c. and idleberry are soul mates. honestly, how many people do you know that shove a pole tightly up their arse before posting to sinister? each of them do it....it's fate. imagine, if they were physically together they could bash, insult, whine, complain, bitch, moan, irritate, belittle, condescend, and preach to/about all of us...without any of us actually having to deal with them." Stine, darling, that twee debate is, like, soooo 18th August 2003. We've all moved on, please try to keep up dear. The twee debate is so out of fashion its almost gone full circle and verging on kitsch. Mark appologised and explained himself to those who needed to know, and to the rest as well, I posted other things about other stuff, get over it already. "i typically keep my personal annoyances from sinister, which coincidentally have only been about the aforementioned two parties, to myself. however, i felt that since the 2 of them deem it their purpose on sinister to keep all of us in line, i felt perhaps they should be served a dose of their own medicine." Your medicine was as powerful as a dose of Calpol. What was an important conclusion to you was as noteworthy as a badly written 5 year old's news jotter. "i also find it hysterically funny that anyone would complain about the mid-atlantic meetups....considering the fact that 11 months out of the year all of us read constantly about UK meetups. mind you, i'm not bothered by that in the least. i really enjoy reading about what all of you interesting and involved sinisters in the uk have going on...i envy it really. i just think it's funny that anyone thinks too much on list time is devoted to mid-atlantic meetups." I also find it hysterically funny, becuase I don't think anyone did complain about the mid-atlantic meet ups. Did they? Please correct me if I am wrong (I know someone will). And now for a change of subject, but still keeping with my subject line. ***************************** WE'RE SO COOL, IT HURTS I was reading in Elle, today, a piece about fashion. It was all about the 60's trends, vs. the 80's trends. Apparently, two "top designer types" reckon, its about mood as well as the clothes. You have to live and breathe the style, rather than just wear it. And what did they say? Apparently, going to your mates houses and playing records was really cool, as was going to a club night made by your pals. A few years ago, owning a guitar was the coolest thing to do, according to Elle. So basically, as far as I can see, going to the Winchester Club is the ultimate in fashion right now. But hey, we knew that all along. ***************************** ALBUM COVERS I was interested by Lucy Alder's pictures, of two possible album covers. I suppose only time will tell, won't it? Personally, I prefer the one where you can see all the band a little better (the Amazon one) rather than the one with Richard closer. Thats not to say I think Richard ruins a good picture, but I somehow just like to see all the band properly in the photo. The thing I'm interested in most, is waiting for the mini literary treat that is the sleeve note stories. Was it TWATTYBUS that missed them out? I think it was. Just a piccie of Isobel looking coy. I'm sure there were plenty of boys who weren't complaining though. Does anyone know the date when the album is due to be released? ***************************** BELLE AND SEBASTIAN, ON THE INTERNET, PLAYING SONGS FOR CHILDREN... Unfortunately, despite all the will in the world, and all sorts of wonderful programmes on my brothers computer, I wasn't able to watch the internet thing.

From the sounds of it, I missed out.

I can't complain though, since we were lucky enough to get the televised version of the Concert for Africa, which I taped. I think Laura Llew wanted a copy, so if you're out there Llew, and you still do, send me your addy. ***************************** MAKES ME WANNA SHOUT Finally, I'd also like to do my wannabe thang, like I've got through to a soulessly cheesy local radio DJ on a phone in and got a song requested and give out shouts to all my buddies on the list: namely Mark Casarotto my platonic soul mate; Mark Waudby, my love soul mate; Sarah, Mark Casarotto's darling; Brian McKinnon, the lowest of the lo-fi; Mandalion; Lyns; Patrick; Nal; Lucy; Lucy Alder; David Moore; Sally Moore; Nick Dastoor (cos it rhymes with moore); Ally Cooke; Robin Stout; Stacey'n'Richard; Pansy Pop; Ken Chu; Marianna; RJG; Kirsten; Mr and Mrs Bapps; Matt Henderson; Michael Grant; Archel; my mum; my dad; God; Jesus; and anyone who knows me, from past, present, or future. To paraphrase Brett Anderson, I'm not going away, so you might as well just go and get some camomile lotion. Yours forever (whether you like it or not) Idleberry ===== http://groups.yahoo.com/group/corduroysmoke/ starting playground gossip and passing notes __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+