i have to agree that it is quite curious so many listees seem to have dreams about people that, in general, they've never met. saying that, however, i have had my own b&s dream which was bonkers to say the least, in which i was trying to convert my friends and then suddenly the whole group (but there were only five or six members - i told stuart that he had lost some people, but he wouldn't speak to me) turned up, and then left with my friends. i chased them on a unicycle into a cave because i wanted their autographs, and rode upside down on the ceiling, weaving in between stalgmites (or whatever the ones on cave rooves are called) before looking down into this huge lake and seeing the reflection of all 8 members of the band there. yet there was no sign of them anywhere, and when i looked back into the lake, the reflection had gone, and i fell off my unicycle into the lake and . . . woke up. if anyone out there has joseph-esque (as in technicolour dreamcoat) qualities, please let me know what this dream means. or alternatively call the men in white coats if you think i am a danger to society . . . :) i don't think that people dream of the band members individually (just talking from personal experience here, so no offence anyone), but BELLE AND SEBASTIAN as a whole, as if the group were themselves one person. this means that even if you haven't met them, it is still possible to dream of them, just like i have dreamt of other people i have never met (and they aren't necessarily famous, images just appear in my head) . . . of course, i'm probably wrong, but i don't really dream of other bands, and i've only ever had the one b&s dream. unless you count the day i bought an original tigermilk, and dreamt there was a crease on the cover, and as i tried to straighten it out, i dropped it on the floor, and the corner creased, forcing the cover to kind of float off in a puddle . . . on a final note (simply cos i like lurking, being one of the fabled creatures of the shadows etc), i'd like to say i agree with elzober. now, i don't want to start a huge "i agree/disagree" debate here like the one that nearly killed our beloved sinister, so if you want to flame me or whatever please do it off list, but i don't see how anyone can say they like b&s and then promptly insult other members (usually isobel). i don't know any of the band, and i've never met them, but even if i did, and for some strange reason disliked a member (although i'm sure i wouldn't :)), i wouldn't tell the list, simply because i know at least one of the band reads the list, as do many of their friends. it just ain't fair. people don't attack other sinisterines (usually), so why attack members of the band, especially when it is likely to hurt them???!! okey dokey, that's all i'm going to say on the subject, and please reply to me off list . . . if you want to reply at all. back to lurkerdom for me, ian. ********************* Ian Hatcher rutherford jcc ents#1 igh1@ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+