Re: Sinister: Talking through their b-sides
I hadn't heard about this new ruling on what constitutes a single.
Are these sort of rulings something that just happens in the UK?
If so then for the benefit of those outside the UK these spurious rulings are made by the people who compile our music charts. Record companies then pretty much have to comply if they want their releases to get listed in the charts - and most do.
The death knell for vinyl was sounded in the UK when they made a similar ruling about the maximum number of formats that could be counted towards a single's sales and, if I remember rightly, there was a rule introduced around the start of the eighties to stop record companies giving away weird and wonderful free gifts with records in order to boost sales.
None of these rules could really be said to have enhanced pop music.
Kevan
Oddly enough, regarding this ruling stuff (hehe) in about 1992 they ruled (heheheh) that a single could be no longer than 40 minutes in length. The other day I was listening to the dark and long single by Underworld, which I haven't listened to for ages, but once it finished the CD player shows how long the whole single is, and by accident or design, it's 39 minutes 59 seconds - not bad is it. Indeed the number of tracks on a single has been reduced from 4 till 3, however no-one seems to have pointed out that B+S's last single quite happily got in the charts. NIce trick that. Bit strange as well how you could easily get around this sort of thing. The Stone Roses' Standing Here for example, sounds like two separate songs really, could you claim that your six songs were just sections of the same song? I think we should start a petition to get Genesis to release "Supper's ready" which is a fuckoff big multi-parted thingy (or so my friends tell me ;), just to test the water. Cheers, Keith. ps : in particular the list rules (This is cut and pasted from Paul's web page) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Somos todos conejitos felices que tararean . consonancias felices del conejito - no somos? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
The ruling of cutting from 4 to 3 songs and the 20 minute limit on chart qualifying singles comes into place on all releases after 6th July, which is why Embrace & Mansun have just got mightly p***ed off ... ... and why shouldn't they? as a record company who prides itself on releasing 4 track EP's rather than singles, we're having dilemma's in trying to figure out what stance we will take if our bands insist on putting 4 tracks on a "single" and making it ineligible for the chart. do we risk it and do hidden tracks again, or is the uk singles chart really worth forfeiting songs and bowing down to. (i for one think it's a pile of shite) what do you lot think of £1.99 cd singles and 99p 7"'s? it'd be nice to know what the punters are prepared to pay? cheers, Katrina. Keith Watson wrote:
Indeed the number of tracks on a single has been reduced from 4 till 3, however no-one seems to have pointed out that B+S's last single quite happily got in the charts.
-- ******************************************************************** jeepster recordings ltd. - a-and-r@jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn ph - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Somos todos conejitos felices que tararean . consonancias felices del conejito - no somos? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
99p 7" singles rule! C. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Somos todos conejitos felices que tararean . consonancias felices del conejito - no somos? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Fri, 19 Jun 1998, Katrina @ Jeepster wrote:
The ruling of cutting from 4 to 3 songs and the 20 minute limit on chart qualifying singles comes into place on all releases after 6th July, which is why Embrace & Mansun have just got mightly p***ed off ...
I didn't realise that - and, if I may say so, it's a bloody ridiculous idea.
what do you lot think of £1.99 cd singles and 99p 7"'s? it'd be nice to know what the punters are prepared to pay?
Generally, I only pay 1-99 for cd singles at the most anyway - if they're more I'll shop around or wait and get them somewhere else. What are they going to do about bands like Feeder who put their videos on the end of their singles? Does this count towards the 20 minutes? Is there anyone we can complain long, loudly and bitterly to? Nick. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Somos todos conejitos felices que tararean . consonancias felices del conejito - no somos? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
participants (4)
-
Chris -
Katrina @ Jeepster -
Keith Watson -
Nick Grundy