Sorry this is now a little out of date, (and I wish I'd seen it before the weekend, duke, or we could have talked this one through over a couple of scoops) but I feel I need to clarify something regarding the popness/non-popness dimension of the Tigermilk reissue. So here goes: ---------- From: duke of harringay To: 'sinister@majordomo.net' Subject: Re: Sinister: Tigermilk Reissues Date: 24 October 1997 17:34

i like the mythical quality of tigermilk remaining unavailable (and NO i don't have a copy on vinyl either...) , because actually i disagree with tim about collectablity not being part of Pop. I think it is...

Hmmm. Now I would have thought that you of all people, sir duke, would have subscrbed to the more throwaway angle: that pop is about being cheap and great and (what was it?) throwaway pop tunes which you just want to keep forever. Of course I understand the joy of seeking out that great lost tune but I think that's a different and discrete impulse from the pure pop joy which I feel when I hear Belle and Sebastian. And I, of course, also understand the urge to _own_ your pop music, to build a world-view and a self around it, but I still don't think that justifies artificailly creating this kind of exclusivity in what I believe should be a fundamentally democratic medium.

However... i also think that Tigermilk is a great record and deserves to be heard. Given that there's a lot of growing interest in the band, i think it should be given a 'real' airing to the public

Me too. Oh, me too.

, and i suspect that despite all the comments from the band, it WILL come out, but only when they think it's in their best interests for it to happen. It's a juggling act.... keep it back long enough to keep people talking and hoping, then unleashing it when they feel at a peak of publicity, or whatever. I don;t think it will see the light of day until they get a '>charting' LP and mass interest in the press. Then i can see full page ads pushing it as the 'great lost debut by belle & sebastian' or somesuch. And that's fair enough, because that's Pop too.

Well, yes, kind of. Except that one of the (many) things which I cherish about this band is that they always seemed to want to (and, for once, seemed to be in the position to) tackle this music industry thing on their own terms. Now all of a sudden I'm expected to believe that it's OK to play so strictly by the rules. I'd love to see a little more in the way of imagina(c)tion going in to how it's to be presented, rather than falling so quickly into line with the way of thinking which ends up talking about 'great lost albums'. Which, surely, is classic canonical rock-speak. I'd like to think that this band, of all bands, find such language as stomach-turning as I do. And the point of all of this I will explain in a separate mail, because this one's long enough already. Lubricate yours TimH ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------