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The reason Angry-Woman singers make me cringe is beacuse they perpetuate (is
that the right word) their own stereotype, the whole Lilith Fair `I don`t shave my armpits therefore I am Woman` thing going on. It makes the good angry women to be lumped in with them
Genevevie: that the right word) their own stereotype, the whole Lilith Fair `I don`t shave my armpits therefore I am Woman` thing going on. It makes the good angry women to be lumped in with them. I prefer male voices anyways, I dunno..i just do..we all have our preferences you know.I like a nice female now you bring up preference, i'll admit i *generally* prefer female voices, i think they sound prettier most of the time, i tend to be more picky about the sound of a male voice for some reason, which doesn't mean i dont' like any of them. just that if you took my musick collection and percented it, there would probably be more women voices in there. there is so much wrong with this statement i don't know where to start. perpetuating your own stereotype is an entirely different thing than being generalized against their will. Lilith Fair is decidedly *not* the epitomy of Womanhood, it's a stereotype in itself, what with the Jewels and what not, i think that's a kind of poor comparison to "angry" women in music. If i were truly angry and wanted to cause a fuss, i would definitely steer clear of the whiny mentality of lilith fair, "we're girly and some of us dont' shave our legs, but most of us are backed up by all-male bands anyway but let's all dance and sing about feminine hygiene". that's a joke. AND let me vent a little bit. it really irks me when people have the impression that the only thing qualifying you as a "woman" or "feminist" is not to shave your armpits. or that if you like to wear dresses or something, you can't be a "real" woman. the whole point of the feminist movement was so that women could CHOOSE the way they want to be, and men too, so anyone who wants to can wear a dress, or choose not to shave their legs or whatever. i just don't understand why people can't get over it already know what i mean? i'm coming from the standpoint of recognizing women have been locked into stereotypes for centuries (and thus men as well have been prisoners of gender roles) but i don't go around trying to tell anyone how to dress or act. maybe sometimes i am not absolutely prompt about shaving my legs, but i also like wearing dresses, and lacy lingerie, and metallic green lipstick and carrying hello kitty bags. does that make me a sell-out?? i dont' think so. if any feminist type woman told me so, i'd tell them to fuck off, cos it's my choice. things like that are so shallow and inconsequential. Just cos a few women are out there not shaving their armpits doesn't mean they are forcing you to do so. but i think it's nice we have the freedom to act the way we want these days. I jsut don't understand why anyone would get all up in arms about "angry women" anyway. if you dont' like the music, just say so. no need to be trivializing about a massive group of (totally unrelated, btw) musical performers in an imaginary category. And yes. sorry for going out on a limb, and genevieve you know i love you :o) I just tend ot have really strong opinions, which makes me a loud angry WOMAN!!!! woo-hoo. the very fact that we would think to say Angry Women, just tells us we have a little ways to go before the social playing field is totally wiped clean. isn't it ironic? dont'cha think? Another puzzling conundrum: bel-bashing!! wherefore, and why?? who could be more innocuous, sweet and harmony-inducing?? not exactly the type to cause raging riots of bloody hatred. i just dinna underrrstaahhndit. those must be the same type of ppl who kick over little kids sand castles on teh beach, jsut to be nasty!!! cos their days of innocence are gone. *sigh* i never went to prom. i didnt have a date. but i would totally go to prom with artgirl if it were possible. after all, i have just now learnt the art of slowdancing and moving cheek to cheek with your beloved in quivery disco-ball fever, your hands slick with sweat and tentatively moving closer closer.......it would be easy to add the ruffle of organdy and taffeta to that image, and mayb ea bunch of frat boys drunk on spiked punch, drooling over the hormone-inducing spectacle of me and my beloved. but i'm getting away from myself now. Prom would only be nice if you had someone special to go with. as a ritual, a legislated passage in which you spend much much money on a bad dress and then go get totally bored to death while preppies and jocks feel each other up to a Boyz2 Men song, i would say it's highly over rated, and that's why i chose not to go, i had not found a beloved yet. and i dont' regret not going. it would have meant nothing to me. maybe it would have seemed more exciting if there was a girl/girl prom, but there wasn't. which is why i'm glad i'm older now, and i can dance with girls if i choose to. THAT's what women's lib was all about, my friends, my glorious friends. i pity the fool what don't understand THAT. i think i remember a time when amanda artgirl hadn't shaved under her arms. at least i'd like to think so. i find that sexy for some reason. i guess i'm just a nature kind of girl. *ummm...shiver* like isobel's sweat stains. tres sexy, no? okay, just me. sorry, i'm grossing everybody out now. *goes back to her dank little cave* (ah blimey, i just realized how freudian that was....) hello kitty is very girly, but i like her a lot. i just dont' like her teddy bear. i REFUSE to buy a hello kitty item that has the teddy bear on it. the rabbit is fine, the birds are great, but no fucking teddy bears!!! okay!!!! Badtz maru is just the best. the colors......the sanrio design ethic fascinates me. i just love it. i dont' like some of the keroppi design, but badtz-maru is ALWAYS looking fab. i also like the angel hello kitty!!! oui oui!!! there should be sanrio versions of b/s. oh a little hello isobel!!!! and Beanz-Maru!!!! Kerokerostuartmurdoch!!!!!! Allen, your Liza is looking dreamy as usual......*swoon* i have to go take my medication now. sorry for posting so much this weekend, i'll refrain for a while. let's have a groovy time, LJ http://www.members.tripod.com/rebelstrange they were like those gauche youths who turn up to house parties only to cling to the dark corners in chaste disdain, driven by the naive, vaguely inhuman conviction that all merriment is a lie. SAVE MST3K!!!! http://www.mst3kinfo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". 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Hello there, I thought Lesley-Jos feminist stance was very nice. However she then proceeded to sell the virtues of Isobel Campbell which does tend to put the kibosh on a happy ending... In my own opinion. If you lot disagree then you its your own choice. Thats LIBERATION boys and girls! I think all this reaction just goes to show how un-FREE we are don't you think? Having a go at me for my own personal opinions? Bloody fascists. I never have a go at anyone for their opinions. So anyway last night when I slapped my friend Ross for liking a few songs off the first Gomez album shouting "Do you have no fucking principles you dumbarse!"....and then I got thrown out of the public library aaaaaah.... Arf.
Another puzzling conundrum: bel-bashing!! wherefore, and why??
Me, here now. You want a fight? It's not really worth it is it? I would have to put in effort concerning one of the most mediocre feminine cutie stereotypes in the world, when I could easily be cooking some spicy chips, or...reading a book...or concocting a new theory about P!O!P to show The Duke of PiezoElectric Haringay Units at the next P!O!P! coffee morning after the early service by Rev. Jas Mink... IS IT TOO MUCH TO ASK TO ALLOW ME TO HAVE HATRED! ITS POP MUSIC AND ITS PLASTIC! The boy looked at Johnny and said, "what time are you on then Johnny?" Johnny looked at the boy and mumbled "about ten or eleven, I guess".
who could be more innocuous, sweet and harmony-inducing??
YEAH cos this is what we want in Pop music isn't it, more la la la sweet harmony yeah innocent yah-de-yah. This also comes from the person who was listening to Freedesign this morning. Sample lyric "la la la la la la la la la la la la la la love you". But thats different. Someone else explain exactly how.
not exactly the type to cause raging riots of bloody hatred.
Well she should be. Perhaps she's deliberatly trying to provoke people into reacting against the dumb blonde ooh look a wickle wabbit i with i wath still three s/type?
those must be the same type of ppl who kick over little kids sand castles on teh beach, jsut to be nasty!!!
Yes. Those kids deserve it. Those sand castles WON'T last forever, and I'm the person to show them the cold hard truth. What? I'm a big soppy woos and you all know it. I love forget-me-nots. But not as much as sugar-pops! Flipping heck, don't react to any of this post please...even I'm bored by it now. byebye, Sarah xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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