So...does it count as "staring at girls' boobs" if you just have a quick glance when their heads are briefly turned, or do you actually have to be intently focussed 18 inches below eye level for a number of minutes for it to count? Cos let's be honest, we've all done the latter...erm, that wasn't what I meant at all... I find it hard to believe that clitoral stimulation is achieved with this mystical bit of metal, but only because it's one thing rubbing against such sensitive areas with parts with a bit of yield (oh use your imagination, for heavens sake), and another crushing it with rigid steel, mistress. But then I don't have one (a clitoris, that is, although my sex toy collection is pitifully non-existent too). Having said that, they are in proximity, as Peter (i think) explained, at certain points during coitus(1), so perhaps it does work after all. The prospect of several curious sinisterites checking these facts in a practical way doesn't do my blood pressure any good, either. Did anyone come up with a definitive recognition tool for the New York shows? So there you are. I'm still about 55 mails short of getting them all read, but work wouldn't like it very much if that was how they spent the next hour or so, so I'm gong to go and phone someone instead. Until next time, chickens, Biondino xxx ______ (1) hugenob.jpg at www.harderdeeperfaster.com/nudeypics/, 1998, San Fernando Valley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+