Hello. This is my first posting, so please be nice. I've just read the new Melody Maker readers poll results. Not one mention of B&S anywhere! I was shocked and apalled and shocked again. This is usually the bit where everyone goes "awards dont matter anyway" and for the first time in a while I'm in agreement. Voting Cerys Matthews sexiest woman is such an injustice it hurts. I suggest before next year's poll we should round up anyone wearing a Manics t-shirt and lock them in a cellar (present company excepted) then set things straight. Maybe. Anyway, to change the subject a bit, it seems that everyone has sprung to the defense of Tindersticks (remember that? cast your minds back...) but no-one has said anything nice about The Pastels, so here I go... ahem. Evan Katz wrote:
I agree with whoever said they all sounded the same and weren't anything special.
How can anyone say that The Pastels' songs all sound the same? I will admit that there isn't a great deal of difference in their songs, but if it aint broke... The Pastels have made some of the most downright fantastic music of the last 10 years. They have been one of the most influential bands of the 80s and 90s (where would B&S be without them?) and have set the tone for much of the "indie" music that we know and love. I suggest that anyone wanting a good introduction to The Pastels should buy "Mobile Safari" and "Truckload of Trouble" (the singles & other stuff compilation) at the same time. Start with "Yoga". As for the remix album, whatever next? Perhaps we will have multi-format CD singles, albums produced by William Orbit, the long awaited collaboration with Robbie Williams, maybe even a single in the charts. You may scoff at their bid to "make it big" but Aggi will have the last laugh when she is sitting beside a pool in LA with Phil Collins as Todd Terry remixes the B-Side of the new single "Oh Baby (yo' Sweaty Body '99)." Mark my words. David J. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
'hello, we're the pastels, and we're seminal.' that was over ten years ago, and what's changed? they always told fibs. actually the whole pastels story is weird as hell. i mean, who'd have thought they'd still be around, still be making ostensibly the same sounds and still meaning, well, something peculiar anyway. i can't say i love the pastels, but i can't say i hate them either, they just seem to me to be... THERE. they're influence has been large, it must be said, in very strange and unobtrusive ways. their influence on the americas seems to have been much bigger than it ever was allowed to be in the UK, probably because there wasn't some stupid music journo antagonism, but it's strange all the same. i agree with whoever said that it doesn't matter that all their songs sound 'similar', because there's always been a formula in the best Pop, from Motown to Stax to Felt. i have one question though: whatever happened to Brian Superstar?? fluffy tittered on thinking how i looked when i first heard Denim. well titter ye not, because when i first heard Denim i was all a quiver with excitement, the reason being that the songs sounded fabulous. I get to sound like a trainspotting twat now, but it was the demos for the first LP i heard, and it was on the flip of a tape with the ditched Eno produced Television LP, and man, it was a magical tape. i wigged out on the tape for ages, telling everyone who came within earshot that Denim were the thing to dig. Typically everyone laughed... i think too that they WOULD have made it if it hadn't taken so bloody long for the record to actually come out... the buzz was passed. Shame. years later i was telling everyone within earshot that B&S were the thing to dig... everyone laughed at me then too, but who's laughing now, eh? Well, okay, everyone who was laughing then is still laughing cos they're the kind of person who'd probably prefer the new Ace of BAse record, if such a thing existed. But that's hardly the point. i am glad that people are talking about Gram Parsons again. well, Mr Moore was... although i suspect it was another ruse to simply mention Meester Meeller again. on the subject of rhinestoned troubadours though, can i just say two words: Richard Buckner. go on, you'll love him. although he doesn't wear rhinestones to the best of my knowledge, he does write the most magical songs you'll hear this side of a B&S or Stephin Merritt record. i was baffled at the lack of coverage given to B&S in the end of year cultural reviews across the board... i guess this means they are in that deadly hinterland between being the new cult darlings and being so ubiquitous you end up hating them. i wonder which way they will swing? nice to see Mrs Murdoch posting, although i think she needs to read the FAQ. keep the faith, the duke ------------------------------------------ 'what's the name they call ones like us?' ------------------------------------------ Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK editor@tangents.co.uk ------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
<<<on the subject of rhinestoned troubadours though, can i just say two words: Richard Buckner. go on, you'll love him. although he doesn't wear rhinestones to the best of my knowledge, he does write the most magical songs you'll hear this side of a B&S or Stephin Merritt record.>>>> i second that Richard Buckner is very cool besides three amazing (i assume since is amazing since i havent gotten around to picking it up yet) hes just a really nice guy who is a lot of fun to talk to i chatted with him after his show in Northampton USA at a nice lil club where you can slip into the dressing room and greet people like dick dale and bo diddly and the spinanes and of course richard buckner we had a mutual acquaintance, she had only met him once and had given him a book and he remembered and so i got to chill in the dressing room like a big shot i got to play with Bob Mould's dog too, his dog is scaaaaaaary, anyway so i definitely reccomend him, some people might not like him on here, the fluffier bouncier happier people prolly if you think tindersticks are too intense you wont like him too much his voice is gorgeous in the dark scary depressing tindersticks/mark eitzel style, though its not as low as the tindersticks guy so if just the pitch annoys you you might like buckner oh, on his second album, Devotion And Doubt (i love that title), his backing band consist in part of Joey Burns and John Convertino of Calexico and Giant Sand who people are prolly tired of me talking about ummm....ok yeah check him out, good luck finding his first record, i bought it right before it went out of print and some poopoohead at school stole it from the computer lab, but didnt take the box so i have the box and liner note sbut no cd grrrr i loved that record supposedly its going to be reissued at some point but Rick had a history of being dicked by record labels so who knows thats all i think ----Ev np-True Love Always-Hopefully -- ----------------------------------------------------- I was happy when I put my new record on But I was sad as I listened to it all alone ---"Feeling Fine" by Class my home page: http://www.angelfire.com/ma/dixiecluck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Hi list! Well, since i've got some time to spare, I decided to spare it with you. Godd idea, isnt it? So, a few answers and remarks and things about... well, you'll see. duke of harringay wrote:
i agree with whoever said that it doesn't matter that all their songs sound 'similar', because there's always been a formula in the best Pop
The Duke is right, once again (it's funny how he manages to express things the way I never could, even if I had the same opinion...) However, he was talking about the Pastels, one of my favourite bands, and I thought I could add something (even if it's not directly related to Belle and Sebastian...) Their last album, "Illumination", doesnt sound AT ALL like the others. It's much slower, cleaner, with nice melancolic sounds. It seems they've grown older, but for the better. Something else. Various listees have asked questions about the Black sessions (or satanic sessions, according to Mr Dastoor). May be this could be added to the List's FAQ, sinc many new listees have asked what it was. The Black Sessions are organised by Bernard Lenoir, kind of "french John Peel". The bands play a gig in the studios in front of 200 people (more or less), and the gig is broadcasted live on the french radio France Inter. Belle and Sebastian played such a session on october 5th 1998 (just a day before their "real" concert, at La Cigale). Thanks to the tonight broadcast on Radio1, most of the listees (at least living in Britain) wont have to ask for tapes anymore. For the others (living in Europe, since many american people must have a tape), well, e-mail me privately and I'll see what I can do... Brier Random wrote:
Who was Cana? Besides the start of something Big?
Well, funny question, indeed. Just read the Bible! (a clue: it's not "who", it's "what"...) Happpy Belle Year to you, Stephane +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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