My sinister belles and beaux, I'm not sure I've got Nicky D's point exactly, but the genius/mental illness thing - the best example in my little canon of knowledge is modern goddess Kristin Hersh. in case you've been unfortunate enough to miss out on her solo stuff and time with Throwing Muses, track down the song "Delicate Cutters" from the first Muses album. It was for years my favourite song in the world, despite the almost-irritating wailing sections (but don't let me put you off!), and will always be incredibly important to me even as music becomes less of a way of life (and, sadly, this is happening continuously). The fact that she wrote it while pregnant and half-mad does make me believe that it wouldn't have had half the emotional, 4 real power it has if she'd been, erm, chemically conventional. But at the same time Nicky is spot on about depression NOT equalling genius. It's almost always a fake, kids, don't let it take you in. It doesn't have to be so, but I think you can be pretty sure than anything that is marketed as such is about as 4 real as Lenny Kravitz. BabyChris wrote an interesting post, sections of which I disagree with (though I was looking to pick holes, I must admit). "However, the catholic church HAS NO PROBLEM WITH HOMOSEXUALS. However, it does not agree with homosexual acts (ie. sex) due to it's definition of the purpose of sex. It believes that sex is a sign of commitment in a permanent loving relationship. It also belives that sex is there to consumate marriges and create a physical bond between two people, to create a reminder of thier love, in the form of a child." Um...Isn't having impure thoughts a sin in your church? It is in all the hilarious vicar-in-the-cupboard sex comedies I've seen. Which kind of buggers (scuse the phrase) most gay people, I'd guess. And it seems obvious that gay relationships do actually fulfil most of the above criteria, with the exception of procreation. I don't quite understand the phrase "a reminder of their love" - why on earth would they need a reminder? So what I'm saying, basically, is I think Chris is being a wee bit of an apologist, and perhaps needs to think a little more about his faith and his approach to homosexuality. But I do appreciate what he's saying, and I did find his letter enlightening in many ways. However, my favourite bit of his letter was the following: "In fact, all the catholics that I know are more tolerant of homosexuals that (sic) the people I know who are not gay." There's a free entry to the next Tigermilking (provisionally Friday 10th March, kids!) for the first person to send me an accurate Venn diagram representing the above statement. Mmm, GCSE maths... Sarah and Leyla do rock, though, don't they? Non-gay, non-choose-you-own-adventure (sigh) Mark xxx ******************************************************************* The contents of this e mail from HIT Entertainment PLC are confidential and intended for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy or further distribute this e mail; please notify us by telephone on 020 7224 1717, and delete the e mail from your computer. This e mail has been checked by our anti-virus system before leaving us; we accept no responsibility for the e mail and any attachments once they leave us. www.hitentertainment.com www.bobthebuilder.org ******************************************************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+