anyway, i don't see the point of nationalism at all, really. i mean, it has nothing to do with you where you are born- its something thats wholly out of your control, so how can anyone be proud of it? it's not something you've earned or achieved, is it? Incidentally, Jimmy Hill was on Scottish telly just before the world cup started, and he was asked if he'd support Scotland under given cicrumstances and he pointed out that he'd support Scotland against Germany, cause we've fought Germany in two world wars. Daft bastard.

Yeah, I'm from Germany and it seems that a lot of people support foreign teams like Brazil or even Jamaica! Sure, most interest (even by me) is for the German team, but I think it's natural when you watch your country's team. You have something in common, but I wouldn't call it nationalism. Some might think different (hooligans, wether English or German). Anyway, I have seen the new Baddiel/Skinner/Lightning Seeds video and I laughed, till the tears came. German spectators really suck. They look like from Eastern Germany, about we make a lot of jokes of. These beards and fucking 80's haircuts! Now you see, why good music doesn't have a chance here! Are any people here who collect the world cup Panini stickers? Bis bald, Jochen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Somos todos conejitos felices que tararean . consonancias felices del conejito - no somos? -----------------------------------------------------------------------