opportunity to indulge in a good debate rarely arises because everyone >is so self-consciously Grandmotheresque (splendid neologism, don't you >think?) and convinced that everything they post should be caked in saccharine. >It's all well and good to be kind and gentle, and I'm SO glad that there's not much Manics fan style internal bitching, but when there's this atmosphere of forced courtesy it all starts to resemble a Nazi 'Strength Through Joy'

""""""""""">The only problem I have with this list is that (in my experience) the programme or something from '1984'. You WILL be happy and exist in harmony! Not that I'm accusing Honey of being Hitler or Big Brother (weeeelll, maybe the latter :P) but ... I'm sure you know what I mean. I'd just like to see more people breaking the mould instead of posting more updates of The Terribly Twee Things I Did Today.""""""""" I completly agree. honey, this is what I was trying to say before (remember me? kittridge) , I wasn't trying to be mean or anything. I'm just not a very good writer and could not put it as eloquently as Ciaran could. I don't think arguing or debating is bad it just adds a bit more flavour to the list. You gotta admit you do "correct" people many times for starting threads that you don't like. I know a few members (myself included) of the list who are still on, or that have been on that received private emails from you informing them of your disapproval to what they were saying. There's over a thousand people on the list now and I'm sure that everyone of them wants to be able to express themselves in whichever way they want. I know i sound like I'm complaining but I really do like this list most of the time, that's why i haven't unsubscribed, I just don't like having to feel like I have to walk over eggshells for someone. What does everyone on the list think? -matthew http://members.home.net/kittridge/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+