Though I realize this was done in good spirit, and I know that this stuff should be left to Honey, I just feel a need to confront a few things in Reid Dossinger's post: reid.dossinger@bigfoot.com writes: << And while I'm already on your bad side, let me just let something out: There are those of us who are very proud of the places we live and the places we're from (rare for most Americans), and we don't particularly appreciate having our hometowns and states and countries dragged through the mud. Maybe you think this is an overly sensitive thing to ask, but please...just keep in mind that people live in the places that you hate, and some of them may be on this list. >> I'm not trying to lecture you, but I think you're being a little over sensitive. The only recent reference I saw to anything like the above was a slight mention to Winston-Salem, NC being called an "armpit" of the state (I think that was it). It appeared to be nothing more than just a little jest at a state, hardly venimous or vitriolic. I doubt we'll see any multi-paged posts from the person on the agonizing pain that is everyday life in Winston-Salem, or anything like that. This really is the kind of thing that most people would just say "ho hum" to. Unless someone is doing this to *try* to actually insult you, I can't really see a reason to get all bothered about it. <<In no particular order, other things that need to stop: >> I know this list is different than most lists I'm on, in that it has an "enforcing" moderator, but I still have never liked one listee telling another one what "must be done." I think it much better to phrase such statements in the form of a suggestion. In regards to the actual 3 suggestions, I'd have to say that you should've modelled your first two on the third (well, the 1st one is almost there), which points out the importance of constructive criticism...no "you suck!" posts, or anything in that simple vein. I, personally, don't have anything wrong with someone voicing an opinion on a label, listee, song, group, etc. just as long as it's done with a general sense of constructiveness. To tell someone to stop " ragging on anyone on this list, especially the ones who have been nothing but happy bunnies, like we're all *supposed* to be" is just almost as bad as a "you suck" or "shut up" post, IMO. I think you know that we don't all have to be "happy bunnies," but even a such a, err, rodent can be open to criticism. gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+