Dear Sinister, Before I start proper a tiny addendum to last times post I mentioned that the Moldy Peaches were playing in Sheffield on the 21st November. Well, as any English student will tell you, close reading is key unfortunately I neglected to read the advertisement poster closely enough to discern that it is in fact just Kimya Dawson, who is one half (roughly) of the above mentioned band thats playing, but it should still be good anyway. Nonetheless, a lesson is to be learned here dont go reading posters whilst running past them at a considerable distance and talking to someone. Is toothpaste a liquid or a solid? Thats what we were talking about. No firm conclusions have yet been drawn what do you reckon? See Im thinking that stuff like toothpaste disrupts the whole notion of the solid/liquid/gas trichotomy as its taught in low level physics (I gave up on physics after GCSE, I was no good at it and the department was up three flights of stairs) and instead that states of matter should be seen as a continuum rather than three separate entities in themselves. Possibly most scientists would just say: Well, obviously to that, but we were always taught that you had to be one of the three. Its all up in the air anyway. Ive started proper by the way now, in case anyone isnt clear. I really want to talk about the song Trash by Suede now youll remember me saying in my last post that they didnt play anything I requested at the most recent Offbeat, well Trash was one of the songs I requested then. Even though, if I were forced to choose, Id probably say I was more anti Suede than pro them, I do think Trash is one of the best singles of the 90s, easily the best thing the band has ever done etc. Though Im not at all sure why, its not markedly different from the trademark lush, vaguely anthemic in a pseudo-anti-anthemic sort of way trademark Suede trademark sound. I dont know. Its healthy to have irrational likes and dislikes anyway. Since they didnt play it at Offbeat the other Friday then I requested it yesterday evening (which was Thursday evening if I dont get round to finishing this before tonight is done). Actually I might go off on a little tangent first about the Thursday night Fuzz Club at Sheffield SU or at least about Coin-Op who were the band that played there last night, they have bands on before the disco bit in a clever hybrid of gig and club, giving you just that little bit more for your money, unless, as frequently happens, the bands that are on are crap. I wanted to go backstage or shout and ask them if they liked The Pixies and The Fall quite a lot but I didnt get round to it. They were good though, I enjoyed myself. And anyway, its unfair and lazy to describe bands in terms of combinations of other bands, or just in terms of other bands really Im not saying Coin-Op were Pixies/Fall copyists anyway, they werent, but there were definite vocal inflections and dynamics in their sound that heavily recalled both those bands. No bad thing? Well that depends. Anyway, speaking of all that, I saw much maligned/adored American emo-folkster about as alt as alt-country gets (Q Magazine) types/type (Im not clear on where the band starts and ends really, is it just Connor Oberst that counts as Bright Eyes or are the rest of them part of it ditto The Magnetic Fields and The Divine Comedy) Bright Eyes on Wednesday in a tiny venue in the back room of a pub in Leeds yes his ears really do look that big from up close. To be honest I probably fit more into the maligned (as in I malign them, him, not the other way round, gah) side of the above split, but it was a good show with the boy Oberst quaffing a whole bottle of cheapo red wine on stage (which isnt, I dont imagine, a very good sign for the tour if you need to be that trashed to make the evening go ok then it cant be a very stimulating tour, musically or otherwise) and flailing around and singing and generally looking like an indie poster boy extraordinaire. He sang some old songs too, which I recognised, and that was nice. Thing is, though, his music is so defiantly, brutally introspective (which is what puts, I guess, a lot of people off it certainly puts me off or not just that it is introspective, but the manner in which it is and how thats expressed) that I expected the gig to be quite low key and acoustic more about drawing the crowd in rather than projecting to them, and in such a small venue he could easily have gotten away with that, in fact it might even have worked better, but instead he and his band thrashed (ok it wasnt quite that crude, but there was a sense of abandon, I think, to the way they went through the songs again, not a good sign that this is a very stimulating tour for team Bright Eyes) their way along, turning even the more delicate numbers into cathartic paroxysms of angsty indie rage, and as Oberst got drunker and drunker even those laboured words of his began to blur into one another, just leaving his hoarse, abstract exorcisms behind. Perversely, not being a fan of his lyrics particularly, this actually made the gig more enjoyable for me and my friends, who are all pretty much confirmed Bright Eyes fanatics didnt seem to mind either, or perhaps they were just too star struck to notice. If you were there (you never know), then my friend Laura was the one who jumped on stage right at the end of the encore and gave your man a necklace. Cute. Also, we managed to charm the (ok non-existent) security and ran backstage afterwards to meet the band, who obviously had no interest in us and didnt want us there (they cant really be blamed for that though, I think Id be the same) and I stood awkwardly while other gobs hung open gazing at Connors lovely blottoed visage. Then they bought tshirts and stuff and we went home. Yay. Oh, yeah, while Im thinking about it, during the gig I really, really felt like heckling. Is this natural? Barring the wittiest of the witty, Im generally not at all impressed by heckling, I dont think many people are but during the oddly reverential between song silences of Wednesday night I was itching to make myself heard. I felt like shouting something like: Say something profound, Connor. Im glad I didnt actually, it wouldnt have worked. That is, it wouldnt have been a sufficiently witty heckle to get the crowd onto my side, not that Oberst wouldnt have said something profound, lord knows, he might have huge chunks of the Dhammapada to heart, and what a bootleg that would have made. Incidentally, my philosophy lecturer, the one who made the mistake about Tracey Emin last week, this week redeemed himself by using the term scare quotes which I like. Presently we come to something of an impasse next week is reading week, which means that I dont have any lectures or anything, most people have gone home for the week, but I couldnt face that personally not that Ive anything against my family, of course not, but were having building work done at home at the moment, and the thought of being stuck in that tiny house whilst builders traipse through all the while really doesnt appeal. Im going back soon anyway, for some A-Level thing at my old school, I cant decide if Im looking forward to seeing various people or not, some of them I definitely didnt stay in contact with for a reason I imagine itll be all How are you getting on? Oh fine, you? Fine, yeah type conversations and then well all go back home and wonder how we could grow so far apart after just a few months. Or I will anyway. But an impasse here because I dont really have anything to do, particularly I have letters to write and a couple of essays to do, but that doesnt really structure my days very well, not that they particularly benefit from being structured I suppose this is the eternal paradox though, if Im ever obliged to do anything at all then I moan about it, and now that I have a week so empty that there will be barely anyone around that Ill have to grunt alright? at as we pass on the street and I moan about that as well. I suppose Im just worried that Ill retreat back into the malaise of doing nothing except staying in bed reading and keeping completely unsociable hours as I did during the summer. It wasnt that bad, really. I just dont particularly want to be there again, even if it is just for a week. Still. And its not as if I dont have enough free time anyway, in fact I have inordinate amounts I suppose I always did though. Almost everyone being gone is almost certainly a good thing, though, I think no more queues for dinner, no more long waits for the lift, even if it is just for a week. Oh, and I meant to tell you this last time, but further to the tales of hilarious student debauchery, the guy who lives opposite to me, lets call him Matt (it is his name, after all, and any possible allusions to a dull surface are appreciated as well as appropriate), this is the person that plays Eye of the Tiger and, recently that Bombfunk MCs record that was around a few years ago, a song which I thought had been thankfully consigned to the annals of one hit wonderdom, but apparently not, repeatedly, loudly during the wee small hours of the morning, as well as several other hours during the day (wee small is a bit of a tautology isnt it? That blonde girl has fair hair), he anyway, managed to break his sink by throwing his weights at it, whilst drunk. Oddly, and disconcertingly he didnt seem at all bothered by what hed done the next day, still found it highly amusing actually. Some people, honestly. Hes a bit of a case all round really, from the lewd posters on his wall to the other day when I was, not out of choice, mind, sitting opposite him and dinner and he started complaining about how hard it was to do work in his room, about how it was too noisy and about how there were too many distractions. But its you making all the noise! All the time! Some people. Honestly. Actually, I was mulling this over the other day on the way home from something, we more or less have absolutely nothing in common, Matt and I, no shared interests, no common ground, we dont have anything that even remotely resembles a rapport in conversation. Chalk et cheese. I was wondering, then, whether this is a good thing or not. Is it beneficial to occasionally come into contact with people that you absolutely cannot relate to at all? Does it somehow affirm your own sense of being? Prove the eternal variety of the human spirit? Which lead me, sans an actual conclusion on the above (other than to think that occasionally I am drawn to struggling through, say, a really hard book or article thinking that it will be somehow beneficial to have read it, despite not having enjoyed it very much, not sure that this is quite analogous though), to wonder if we maybe had one thing in common, I worked backwards on this one, reasoning that its easier to change him than me in this unlikeliest of scenarios that, say, he enjoyed the novels of Vladimir Nabokov (he told me, incidentally, that he doesnt like reading the other day, so there doesnt seem to be much chance that he does on the sly, but I suppose you never know), would that then give us enough grounding to be able to get on with eachother without there being an awkward and occasionally menacing air when we speak? But then I thought, no, because if he did like Nabokov then surely this would change, albeit fractionally, his entire countenance or would it? Could he be the same person exactly, but just with this one tiny addition? I didnt think so, Nabokov isnt a good example, obviously, but in a sense, to like certain things you have to be a certain way its not really a chicken and egg type situation and one cant function with the other. But then I thought that I was being far too essentialist why shouldnt someone completely different to me enjoy the same things as I do? There isnt an answer to that. The reason Matt and I dont get on runs much deeper than just surface interests there are plenty of sporty people (and yes, I appreciate how much of an oversimplification that is) that I get on with and plenty of bookish people that I cant stand. So, depressingly, it looks like our differences are irreconcilable. Pity that. The thing is, I feel that way about most of the people on this floor - that there is this huge vista between what I think and what they think about everything. Pity that. So why is it that I still think of them, of Matt especially in terms of just those interests? Do I see them as a manifestation of the bits of his personality that are irreconcilable with mine, and with people I like that have similar interests to him, do I bury those interests and just see the personality that I do get on with? This is what keeps me up. That and the toothpaste thing, anyway. Perhaps this is why my friends seemed so horrified when, in Leeds a few weeks ago after we were drunkenly insulted by some townie types about the way we were dressed, harmless enough, I suppose, but not very pleasant, and typically our conversation turns to how moronic these people are, how they all dress the same and etc etc and I suggested that if that was all we could come up with about them was that, then we were no different from them anyway we think were better, they think theyre better simply based on the way the other side appears, the only difference being that the townies have the, I dont think guts is quite the word, but the impetus at least to voice their prejudices. I thought the whole point of not being like them was to *not be like them*. Didnt go down too well though. Perhaps Im trying to make a point about indie as a whole now, though guardedly. Ill not press it though. Im as guilty of it as anyone else is anyhow, so Id be a hypocrite if I did. I wonder if Matt recognises this difference or more to the point, I wonder what he actually thinks of me its a subject Id quite like to broach with him, if only I knew how. Incidentally, I dont particularly mean to single Matt out, its just that his room is so close to mine and I seem the most estranged from him, its a discussion Id like to have with plenty of people, but its one of those things thats just too close to the bone to actually take up with anyone, even people I am friends with. Im rambling now. Still. Hes gone home for the week anyway, Matt, so have most of them, its quiet. I think I already mentioned that. Still rambling, then. As ever. See, I did it with the pun on Matt above, actually, witty as it was and as nicely as it lead on to it does exactly what it says on the tin type nonsense I was still completely on the surface, totally 2D. Nobody is 2D. Perhaps this is whatll happen when I go back to school for that presentation, well all go back to seeing each other as just 2D people, strangers, I suppose they are now, in a sense, most of them. But I was here to talk to you about Suede. So I requested Trash Thursday evening and they played it and I danced and in my cinematised version everyone was ecstatic and the song fit the moment so perfectly that all other music momentarily paled in comparison and today I went out and bought a second hand copy of Coming Up for a fiver because I dont actually have the song up here with me and Ive been listening to it on repeat all day the end. Love, Kieran Xxx p.s. I thought about taking out all the punctuation. Maybe next time, what do you think? _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. 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Kieran Devaney