as regards the sounds of the documentary: it's in brit format: namely. PAL. i think it's called. Some places can convert the tape for you. Look in your local phone book. I don't think it would be too pricey. I was going to ask for a copy of the documentary, but then i remembered the format wouldn't work in my VCR. maybe if some nice listee gets it converted they could make me a copy. I figured I would post this to the whole list, in case someone else has the same problem. if you think it's bad posting private mail to the list, consider my plight. I've been posting letters that should have gone to the list to a retired grandmother in Florida. I think the smut content has nearly unhinged her. people don't say crikey enough in conversation dave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+