I apologize for the subject line, but it was a little relevant: I was going to say, since keith m was wondering What if Stuart M had written Family Tree, what if it was, really? here it gets a bit pedantic I think... anyhoo... I posted once before saying something to that effect, I think what I said was that I'd read in an interview that that's what was so... actually what I read was in that MTV chat they did a while back, saying that each of Isobel, Sarah, and Stevie had written one song for fishyclap, and the only crossovers with people singing other people's songs were Isobel and Stevie collaborating on Beyond the Sunrise and Isobel "singing one of stuart's songs". I assumed this meant, since Stevie wrote The Wrong Girl and Sarah wrote Waiting For The Moon To Rise, that "singing one of stuart's songs" meant singing the whole thing, not just the bit of women's realm she sang. if so, that means that the "collaborating" on beyond the sunrise referred just to the singing and Stuart wrote Family Tree. I always figured this interpretation was right... until I realized that the collaborating probably meant they wrote it together, thus making the "singing one of stuart's songs" a reference to Women's Realm. the reason I figured the other way was that when I first listened to women's realm, I thought, "that's odd... this is isobel singing, but it doesn't sound like an isobel song. course, it doesn't really sound like a stuart song either, but Nice Day For A Sulk and The Chalet Lines were kind of weak too, so maybe it's a kinda weak stuart song." see, I figured it just didn't sound like an Isobel song; I like isobel and all... but her songs tend to sound sorta the same; I think she tries too hard. but I shouldn't talk, I can't write songs worth a chickfactor. so in conclusion, I provide no insight into the question of who wrote that song, except for that little spiel. but I do wish to say that that day everyone was saying how pretty the moon looked? I saw it too! which I think is neat, coz I didn't know these things were quite that universal. I guess it makes sense considering... considering I dunno what. considering the way these things work. I guess... I picked up a copy of modest mouse's first album; it ain't tigermilk, but it's durn decent. kinda boring musically, but there are some some standout tracks, and it is, as I say, durn decent. anyway, kind of an awkward way to finish off maybe, but that's all I'll say... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "peculiarly deranged fanbase" "frighteningly named +-+ +-+ Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+