RE: Sinister: HAPPY HAPPY DAY!, plus Elec. Renaiss.
>TO ALL THE UK KIDS!!! >happy lancashire day!!!!!!!!! >(honestly, it is.) Just...don't, OK? I know I have to live here and you don't, but there's no need to rub it in;-). It's freezing cold, raining and miserable. Yes, folks, it's Lancashire, and it's not nice. Unlike Lancashire cheese, which is very tasty, actually. Oh, and black pudding. I can think of no sensible B&S link to Lancs, except of course the Manchester gigs and the mention of Liverpool in TSOTAF. Then again, neither Liverpool or Manc are in Lancs anymore, strictly speaking. And Widnes has always been in Cheshire, I think. On the subject of Electronic Renaissance, I couldn't give a damn abouit why or how it was written. I don't care too much about its genre (and I would agree that generically it's a bit if a mess). What I do care about is that it is a big beautiful welter of sound which gets me just _there_ (y'know?). I love it. It's a popsong and a damn good one, I'd say. Of course. Sir Duke, if you listen to it wanting a cutting edge phat-assed dance monster, you'll be disappointed. But did anyone ever make any claims for it being cutting edge? To criticise B&S for not making a noise like, say, Squarepusher (who was pretty much cutting wotsit around the time of TIgermilk, I'd guess) is like criticising the guitar songs for not being... I dunno, Ui or The Sea and Cake or whatever. It's pop music and it's all good, as they used to say. Of course, BelleanSeb, if you don't want to hear B&S do anything other than guitar-based pop, it's not gonna sound so great. Fair enough. No reason why you should like everything by any artist, and no reason why you shouldn't listen to them for what you want. I don't much care whether it's a spoof or a dig at 'easy to write' dance music. I'm reminded of McCarthy speaking scornfully of 'An MP Speaks', a shockingly gorgeous track on their first LP, saying they deliberately wrote sickly-sweet music for it and how it was musically weak etc. Not that I care(d) because I love(d) that song so much... For my part, I think Electronic Renaissance is straightforward damn brilliant because...I do. Although the line which says 'I'll go funkadelic' always confuses me. I can't think of a less funkadelic-like band than B&S. Lastly, I don't love B&S for their guitar-led brilliance. I love them for their brilliance. It may only be in my head, but there's a difference. If I type for much very longer, I'll be known as the boy who's always typing. 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On the subject of Electronic Renaissance, I couldn't give a damn abouit why or how it was written. I don't care too much about its genre (and I would agree that generically it's a bit if a mess). What I do care about is that it is a big beautiful welter of sound which gets me just _there_ (y'know?). I love it. It's a popsong and a damn good one, I'd say.
yeah well, no real arguments there... just that listening again to TM on the car stereo to-ing and fro-ing from school four times a day this last week has made me change opinions on which tracks i like best at present, and ER is less liked at the moment... but what goes around, right?
Of course. Sir Duke, if you listen to it wanting a cutting edge phat-assed dance monster, you'll be disappointed. But did anyone ever make any claims for it being cutting edge?
well see i wasn't arguing from that corner at all, i was arguing from the corner of IF the reason for writing ER was indeed as the suggestion had been (that Stuart wanted to show how simple it was to write a 'dance' record),then he'd not only kinda failed, but actually missed the point altogether. i was trying to show the spurious content of the IDEA, not commenting the nature of the song itself...
Lastly, I don't love B&S for their guitar-led brilliance. I love them for their brilliance. It may only be in my head, but there's a difference.
totally agreed.... maybe i just didn't write clearly enough last time, which wouldn't surprise me this week at all. it's like Kevin said, 'there are only two types of music. the great and the not great'. Can't say fairer than that now, can you? Strangely natural, naturally strange... it all fits. dashing again, da duke. PS: new Salaryman remix EP (out on the 1st) is bloody marvellous.... -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent@mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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