Re: Sinister: Bootlegging from Vinyl
Further, just to comfort B&S and/or Jeepster, CD's mass produced from a Vinyl source would be inferior to those from the Master >Tape unless a great deal of money was spent trying to digitally remaster the sound. Also, cateran on chat made it known that >Cdroms, played on a regual CD player which lack the ability to oversample them, sound noticeably infererior (if one is an audiophile).
Now that doesn't mean that someone trying to make money wouldn't be able to
However, it's really unfair to unleash that kind of anger we saw last fall on list members. We are their biggest fans. We're the ones >who enjoy most
Hmmm... I'm afraid this point doesn't seem to make much sense. If a CD player reads a single circuit on a CD and the sum of all the bits on that circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end of that circuit then it will skip. All oversampling CD players do is attempt to read the circuit x number of times in an attempt to get it correct before actually playing it, they will also skip if unable to match the checksum. Either a CD will skip, or it'll sound exactly the same as it did when initially recorded, in the same way that if you take a binary computer program and splat a few zeroes into the middle of the file, it's not likely to make the program just slightly worse, just completely and untterly shaft it. I don't know where this sort of stuff comes from, but there was an article a few years ago that stated that should you keep your CD's in a fridge, they'd sound better! peddle these inferior products making and making >appreciable profit. Frankly though, I don't think Jeester, Electric Honey, or Belle and Sebastian would be able to do anything to stop it. >In effect, the only thing protecting Belle and Sebastian right now is their relative obscurity. Frankly too, I'm quite surprised bootlegs of Tigermilk aren't already readily available. I had a look in Barrowlands in Glasgow a few months ago just out of interest, and there aren't even any tapes, never mind CD's. listening to their music. We are the ones who proselytize their music to the world. We are not going to want to screw >up B&S's musical careers. Don't make us feel like pariahs. Indeed. What got me thinking however, is the size of the wages bill that B+S must accrue. Mick's previous band I remember were paying themselves 150 quid a week or so living expenses, so if you extrapolate that to Belle and Sebastian they must be paying a weekly wages bill of 1120 quid, this is quite considerable - so on that evidence it's probably about time Tigermilk received a legitamate release or bankruptcy looms! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Keith Watson wrote:
Further, just to comfort B&S and/or Jeepster, CD's mass produced from a Vinyl source would be inferior to those from the Master Tape unless a great deal of money was spent trying to digitally remaster the sound. Also, cateran on chat made it known that >Cdroms, played on a regual CD player which lack the ability to oversample them, sound noticeably infererior (if one is an audiophile).
Hmmm... I'm afraid this point doesn't seem to make much sense. If a CD player reads a single circuit on a CD and the sum of all the bits on that circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end of that circuit then it will skip. All oversampling CD players do is attempt to read the circuit x number of times in an attempt to get it correct before actually playing it, they will also skip if unable to match the checksum. Either a CD will skip, or it'll sound exactly the same as it did when initially recorded, in the same way that if you take a binary computer program and splat a few zeroes into the middle of the file, it's not likely to make the program just slightly worse, just completely and untterly shaft it. I don't know where this sort of stuff comes from, but there was an article a few years ago that stated that should you keep your CD's in a fridge, they'd sound better!
I quite agree Keith.
Frankly too, I'm quite surprised bootlegs of Tigermilk aren't already readily available. I had a look in Barrowlands in Glasgow a few months ago just out of interest, and there aren't even any tapes, never mind CD's.
Is the secondhand porno mag stall still there?
Indeed. What got me thinking however, is the size of the wages bill that B+S must accrue. Mick's previous band I remember were paying themselves 150 quid a week or so living expenses, so if you extrapolate that to Belle and Sebastian they must be paying a weekly wages bill of 1120 quid, this is quite considerable - so on that evidence it's probably about time Tigermilk received a legitamate release or bankruptcy looms!
Yes, I'm just listening to Fat Larry's Band, there were loads of them, and more than one of them was overweight. I wonder what wages they paid themselves? I didn't know bands had wages until quite recently. I thought they just piled the money up on a table, argued about it and split up.It's tempting to pretend to be above wondering what kind of money Belle and Sebastian are making, but if the truth be told I am a very nosey bastard. Next time anyone encounters a drunkenn band member, please ask them. Otherwise we don't know whether to hate their guts or not. I am listening to fat Larry because it's on Stax Funk - Get Up and Get Down, another compilation from the Ace group of labels. I don't think it counts as Northern Soul but it's a nice listen and contains some mindblowing photographs of what appear to be lunatics. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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