today has been all over for me. i read all these posts in one fell swoop so i went from furious to so pleased to a bit iffy. of course, when i read what funkyseb said, i was completely incensed. sos isn't a clique, it's a group of friends. the way i see it, the difference between a clique and a group of friends is that a clique won't let other people join. whereas on sinister, i feel like i've made friends from all phases of the list's existence. some of us know one another better, from having spent hours in chat couseling one another, meeting and walking home drunkenly arm in arm, meeting friends and lovers on the list. but if i was unwilling to make new friends on the list, i would have quit long ago. the way i see it, there are easier ways to find out straightforward news on belle and sebastian. a lot of people post things, but over my stay i've found that there are some posts i like a lot, adn some i don't. some of the posts i delete are poured over by my friends, which has made me respect this list immensely. the fact that there's such a readable output. in fact, the worst part of seb's post was when he said:

This second list is called SOS (save our sinister- clever eh?) and since it's founding 5/6 months ago, the main list has become more and more tired, more repetitive, and lacking the drunken, cheeky swagger that made it so compelling in the first place. Why? Well, because many of the people who used to contribute so much to the real list have joined SOS, and stopped posting to the real list. (I can think of only a couple of exceptions to this rule.) And I

which sounded worse than anything else. it made it sound like certain people were good posters, and others were just dead weight, which is ridiculously. i want genevieve and matt and all the dozens of oter people who started out so tentatively to feel free to write there wonderful things without anyone else saying that what they post is wrong. i may disagree with what someone says, but i hope i never say that what you say is wrong. (ok, maybe redundant if it's like asking for tigermilk, but not *wrong*). at least i hope not. and i like to think we won't ever get to that point. like i said, i was really mad, but i continued reading. and when i read what owen wrote, a new list member who had the good sense to judge the list based on experience rather than heresay, i felt so much better. then elish and kimberly, two people i didn't know who were willing to sit and discuss rationally rather than let the thing fly into a flame war. there's another reason that i love the list. such lovely people, more willing to invite you in for a cup of tea than to stick their nose up and walk away. anyway, on to other things. when northy wrote:

little news article about Bowlie II is fronted by a photo of me and my two friends! Yay! I'm the one in the Bowlie tshirt, my friend Paul is wearing

i could only just imagine tag's joy. then susannah informed us:

Ewan McGregor fans watch out. You know you all thought he was a nice loving family man? Bollocks to that. Apparently he's a real tart and gets off with loads of girls. He had an affair with Anna Friel whilst filming Rogue Trader, she was obsessed with him apparently, and I met this girl last Saturday whose friend shagged him in the toilets of a film doo, and afterwards he wiped himself on the curtain, zipped himself up and went out to meet his wife. And Gary

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