Sinister: true hipster-elite colors shining through
My name is Ryan and I'm a sideline kicker who never ran onto the field before. My comment pertains to the message from Stuart, forwarded yesterday by Lucy. Mick Jagger conceived and performed something like this in December 1968 called "Rock and Roll Circus". It was a filmed stage set to celebrate, Picadilly Circus style, a future era of 70's free-styled blues-rock. There was a live audience and it was intended for television broadcast, only the Stones may have been too far ahead for the times on this one, as it wasn't commercially released until 1995 on VHS and finally last year on DVD (being the era we live in, with bonus features and surround remixes). It also really isn't that good, despite Jagger's ingenuous showmanship, and riveting appearances by Marianne Faithfull, The Who, and John Lennon. I mean it's worth tracking down, but not as important as Scorsese's Dylan documentary that aired here on PBS last month. The live audience appear carefully hand-picked, however I don't have information about methods used to screen them. Anyway, this is the first time I've heard of Belle & Sebastian sending out an instructional casting call to fans dictating their look and appearance and requesting mobile phone pictures. Have they done this kind of thing before? Has Stuart, despite the shy-to-the-press reputation, always been this fame and popularity-driven? I don't care to be too critical of this, because it's probably a smart maneuver in a marketing/vibe-producing kind of way, and I bet it's a great way to meet people. Many bands have obviously been careful with their look when it comes to a television broadcast. Did the Beatles or Rolling Stones ever ask their fans to have a particular look? Was John Lennon really singing "All you need is... corduroy and suede"? I suppose, as a fan of Belle & Sebastian's music, you can't let this kind of thing rub you in the wrong way. I suppose you would enjoy Stuart's sense of humor, especially when he takes himself too seriously and tries to rule the school. Best of luck kids, Ryan --- Belle and Sebastian <mailinglist@belleandsebastian.com> wrote:
From: Belle and Sebastian <mailinglist@belleandsebastian.com> To: "lucyalder@yahoo.com" <lucyalder@yahoo.com> Subject: Belle and Sebastian News message - Filming for BBC Glasgow TV show, extras needed! Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:21:15 +0100
Hello all,
A little message from Stuart ...
ìWe require a TV audience for filming for a BBC program which will feature the group performing a bunch of songs from the new album. The studio audience has to dress kind of 70s but NOT glamorous 70's, I'm thinking mid-70's Oxbridge/Scumbag College students, corduroy and suede, elbow patches, shades of brown and fawn, unkempt/long hair, perhaps some heavy eye make-up for the girls, black rimmed specs and stripy scarves. Please NO trainers, NO printed t-shirts/logos/anything. How about the odd cloak? You will be like extras rather than just audience in this program because the band will be filming the songs a couple of times each and you may need to be in shot and moved round a bit."
The filming will be this Sunday October 23rd at the BBC studios, Queen Margaret Drive in Glasgow. You will need to be available from roughly 7.00pm til 10.00pm. If you're available and would like to considered for the audience, please email webcontact@banchory.net with your name, contact telephone number/s and an image of yourself, by Friday midday. If you can take the picture with your mobile phone and make it less then 200kb, that would be even better!
Thanks and best of luck.
Cheers, Belle and Sebastian. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I know what you're saying.. but to me it sounds like they're looking at this more as visual art than a "studio performance" This isn't you have to wear cords to get into our cool show, this is we're going after a certain visual theme for the program(me). And it sounds like it's at the direction of the studio. It wouldn't make much sense to make a movie about world war one and have jet planes in it, as such it you're going for a 70's beat feel a "Bush Sucks" Tshirt would be out of place.. It's always good to be leery of forced conformity, but not always good to assume everyone's forcing it. just my 2cents. jb We are hummingbirds who are just not willing to move -- "bury me with it" Modest Mouse
From: Ryan Agnew <theryanagnew@gmail.com> Reply-To: Ryan Agnew <theryanagnew@gmail.com> To: sinister@missprint.org Subject: Sinister: true hipster-elite colors shining through Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:10:25 -0400
My name is Ryan and I'm a sideline kicker who never ran onto the field before. My comment pertains to the message from Stuart, forwarded yesterday by Lucy.
Mick Jagger conceived and performed something like this in December 1968 called "Rock and Roll Circus". It was a filmed stage set to celebrate, Picadilly Circus style, a future era of 70's free-styled blues-rock. There was a live audience and it was intended for television broadcast, only the Stones may have been too far ahead for the times on this one, as it wasn't commercially released until 1995 on VHS and finally last year on DVD (being the era we live in, with bonus features and surround remixes). It also really isn't that good, despite Jagger's ingenuous showmanship, and riveting appearances by Marianne Faithfull, The Who, and John Lennon. I mean it's worth tracking down, but not as important as Scorsese's Dylan documentary that aired here on PBS last month. The live audience appear carefully hand-picked, however I don't have information about methods used to screen them.
Anyway, this is the first time I've heard of Belle & Sebastian sending out an instructional casting call to fans dictating their look and appearance and requesting mobile phone pictures. Have they done this kind of thing before? Has Stuart, despite the shy-to-the-press reputation, always been this fame and popularity-driven? I don't care to be too critical of this, because it's probably a smart maneuver in a marketing/vibe-producing kind of way, and I bet it's a great way to meet people. Many bands have obviously been careful with their look when it comes to a television broadcast. Did the Beatles or Rolling Stones ever ask their fans to have a particular look? Was John Lennon really singing "All you need is... corduroy and suede"? I suppose, as a fan of Belle & Sebastian's music, you can't let this kind of thing rub you in the wrong way. I suppose you would enjoy Stuart's sense of humor, especially when he takes himself too seriously and tries to rule the school.
Best of luck kids, Ryan
--- Belle and Sebastian <mailinglist@belleandsebastian.com> wrote:
From: Belle and Sebastian <mailinglist@belleandsebastian.com> To: "lucyalder@yahoo.com" <lucyalder@yahoo.com> Subject: Belle and Sebastian News message - Filming for BBC Glasgow TV show, extras needed! Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:21:15 +0100
Hello all,
A little message from Stuart ...
ìWe require a TV audience for filming for a BBC program which will feature the group performing a bunch of songs from the new album. The studio audience has to dress kind of 70s but NOT glamorous 70's, I'm thinking mid-70's Oxbridge/Scumbag College students, corduroy and suede, elbow patches, shades of brown and fawn, unkempt/long hair, perhaps some heavy eye make-up for the girls, black rimmed specs and stripy scarves. Please NO trainers, NO printed t-shirts/logos/anything. How about the odd cloak? You will be like extras rather than just audience in this program because the band will be filming the songs a couple of times each and you may need to be in shot and moved round a bit."
The filming will be this Sunday October 23rd at the BBC studios, Queen Margaret Drive in Glasgow. You will need to be available from roughly 7.00pm til 10.00pm. If you're available and would like to considered for the audience, please email webcontact@banchory.net with your name, contact telephone number/s and an image of yourself, by Friday midday. If you can take the picture with your mobile phone and make it less then 200kb, that would be even better!
Thanks and best of luck.
Cheers, Belle and Sebastian. +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Confirmation and conformity go hand in hand. In seeking confirmation, which all of us are prone to doing, we force our own conformity. just a thought, RA On 10/19/05, Jeff Burke <shiplore@hotmail.com> wrote:
It's always good to be leery of forced conformity, but not always good to assume everyone's forcing it.
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I always think best of people I want to think best of, and so I agree with Jeff. Mostly tho, I'm just bitter at being in Melbourne instead of Glasgow at this junction in time. When I got the email I turned to my boyfriend in delight and dismay: "We wouldn't even have to change clothes!!" We have perfect terrible 70s hair, too. I think they're just trying to screen outfits, not hotness. I suppose the proof will be in the production, or will you be peering at the screen, looking for the token mingers? In other news...oh, right. I have no other news. Hello, my name is marisa and it's been 23 days since I last listened to Belle & Sebastian. Actually, I think that's a baldfaced lie, but who's going to call me on it? I think what we need is a new cd to argue about. I quite like church references in B&S songs, but I hope there's slightly less Jesus on the next offering. He sort of creeps me out. Poor guy. And that's enough from me. __________________________________________________________ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail sinister@missprint.org. To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to majordomo@missprint.org. WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "peculiarly deranged fanbase" +-+ +-+ "pasty-faced vegan geeks... and we LOST!" - NME April 2000 +-+ +-+ "frighteningly named Sinister List organisation" - NME May 2000 +-+ +-+ "sick posse of f**ked in the head psycho-fans" - NME June 2001 +-+ +-+ Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa +-+ +-+ Snipp snapp snut, sa var sagan slut! +-+ +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Jeff Burke -
marisa stroud -
Ryan Agnew