Re: Sinister: linguistic trainspotting
on 08 Mar 98, Amy Golden wrote...
Say, since this list has already tackled spawny gits & the bar vs. biscuit conundrum, I was hoping someone could take a crack at the significance of 'pants.' Clearly, it is undesirable to be deemed pants, but why? To Americans pants are just, I guess you'd say, 'trousers.' Surely there are more disagreeable items of apparel to be compared to: jock strap, thong, adult diaper... Please explain.
Indeed. Pants in the U.K. are undies, and a rather lowly form at that, since high-class undies are either knickers for girls or boxers for boys. Pants really are the sort of sexless things your Mum buys you, at least thats what they imply when you say 'Pants!' As an insult, something is 'Pants!' if you think it really is crap, e.g. Ocean colour Scene are Pants! Conversely, 'Trousers' is a compliment of the highest order and thus should be used sparingly. If something is 'trousers' it generally is of fantastic taste, humour, style and good looks. Saturn shag anon xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, susannah wrote:
Indeed. Pants in the U.K. are undies, and a rather lowly form at that, since high-class undies are either knickers for girls or boxers for boys. Pants really are the sort of sexless things your Mum buys you, at least thats what they imply when you say 'Pants!' As an insult, something is 'Pants!' if you think it really is crap, e.g. Ocean colour Scene are Pants!
It does have the interesting irony that describing something as "The Pants" is a good thing, in much the same way as the bee's knees, or the mutt's nuts. cv. "Have you heard the new Delgados single? It's the pants!" "Big Women's Knickers!" "That's right, Father" Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I'm a Computer Science undergraduate. Please have sympathy. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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