I was glancing through an old issue of Spin magazine, (well not too terrible old January's issue, but February's issue is out already so it is old by magazine standards....)>but I found this pic at the back of the magazine it's of richard colburn the drummer, for B&S, drr.He's on the far left and some unknown girl is giving him the traditional W for whatever reason.the other people are just people. no one of importance unless it's you.

Huh? Call me old-fashioned but I can only imagine the W stands for wank. Some girl giving Richard Colburn a traditional wank on the back pages of Spin magazine? Is it traditional in the sense of 'classic wank', with no fancy finger work, or traditional because Spin magazine has a long-running New Year feature involving photos of drummers getting hand-jobs from unknown women? Terribly glad to see some heavyweight pop theorising resurface on the list. Perhaps we can provoke the thin white duke of Devon to burst, bluddy and raging from the stomach of the piezoelectric unit and tell us why goth is still an innovatory force to be reckoned with. I can't put my finger on why, but I can't imagine Stuart Murdoch's lyrics being written before the 1990s. It's not just the references to mobile phones. I might like a band, but I couldn't imagine them being so important to me unless there was something new about them. And with B&S, it's Stuart Murdoch's lyrics. Dance music has now matured to the degree that it can't claim to be intrinsically more modern than inventive music in any other genre. The last really new sound I can remember was jungle in about 1992. That doesn't mean I don't like it. However, modern R n' B, hip-hop etc is undoubtedly more 'cutting edge' in another sense - it's what excites most kids, black and white (at least in urban areas). I can't even talk about this without feeling like an old man. I dunno - I think it's been that way since the 70s, really. Comparatively few worthwhile indie bands have come out of London, because MOBO (I can't bring myself to spell out the acronym) is the prevailing culture. Even members of the shit ones probably only moved here when they went to college. There's something about the kind of witty, romantic post-punk pop tradition (hey - snappy!) that is forever... not London. Nick xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the undead Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@missprint.org". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@missprint.org". WWW: http://www.missprint.org/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "sinsietr is a bit freaky" - stuart david, looper +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+