Sinister: Winter Wooskie lyrics
Here is Stuart David's latest effort. For those who missed it at Camber Sands or Dublin, like 'Paper Boat' it's got a bit of a sing-song, faux-naif quality to it. This is my way of saying it's not that great. But it is nice. Like the Beach Boy's album 'Friends' is nice but not great. Stuart inrtoduced it by saying that it wasn't as good as the Flaming Lips. Which reminds me - someone sent me a tape of last year's Brussels show and in it Stevie introduces 'The Wrong Girl' by saying 'This song's not been released yet. It probably never will be' in a kind of self-effacing way. That band really need to improve their attitude. I think they should start boasting about how they are the best band in the world ever and swear more. Shunning journalists is good, but perhaps fighting them would be even better. Jay promised to tell us about 'The weirdest party he had ever popped in...' But I got to the end and there was no popping denoument at all. I was expecting a bit of flatulence at the very least. Did anyone else see that documentary about the University of Iowa's 'Greek system' of sonority and fraternity houses. It was quite the weirdest thing I have ever seen. Apparently a fifth of all new students arrive a week early to go through a sick selection procedure ('Rush') for all these 'secret' single-sex societies with names like 'Alpha Kai Kai' and 'Gamma Beta Sigma'. If they get in the girls get to be all prissy and live without alcohol and the boys get to boast about collecting more sonority girls' knickers than those pussies over at Beta Pi Eater. And they have to pay up to $11000 over their time at university for the privilege. I never really understood what frat-boys were before. But yeah, if anything the girls were sicker. They all sang songs like 'We are Alpha Kai Kai and we are great / Always Alpha Kai Kai / I love Alpha Kai Kai' whilst touching each others pointed fingers and banning fruit in drinks. But the REALLY scary part was that 80% of all major CEOs and most of the military and all but two US presidents have participated in this 'character-building' tomfoolery. It's like SoS - but *WORSE*. Would any US listee like to admit to being part of it and explain why this is complete mispresentation? Nick xx 'Winter Wooskie' Who's that girl? She must be nearly freezing Who's that girl? I'll bet All that snow makes it hard so see her Takes you away to me And maybe I'm in love Love love, love love And maybe that's enough That stuff, that stuff Made a film I made it through the winter Who's that star I cast? All wrapped up in her winter wardrobe She hurries by so fast And maybe I'm in love Love love, love love And maybe that's enough That stuff, that stuff On sunny days when the sun shines I watch the tape And through the snow, through the winter I watch her wave to me Who's that girl? She must be nearly freezing +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Did anyone else see that documentary about the University of Iowa's 'Greek system' of sonority and fraternity houses. It was quite the weirdest thing I have ever seen. Apparently a fifth of all new students arrive a week early to go through a sick selection procedure ('Rush') for all these 'secret' single-sex societies with names like 'Alpha Kai Kai' and 'Gamma Beta Sigma'. If they get in the girls get to be all prissy and live without alcohol and the boys get to boast about collecting more sonority girls' knickers than those pussies over at Beta Pi Eater. And they have to pay up to $11000 over their time at university for the privilege.
From what I've seen, there's a similar system in most western countries:
I didn't see the documentary due to financially imposed lack of TV but that sounds exactly like what my friends described it as (in the bar where I was pissing away the cash that I could buy a TV with). Our conclusion was that frats are probably so prominent in the US political and industry system since they involve living with and getting along with people who you can't possibly like for years on end. I'd say there's something in that... principal in my mind is the public-schools-originated "old boys' network" in Britain. I'm at uni in Cambridge and there's still societies there that are definitely remnants of the class divide in that respect: the Union Society and Pitt Society are the main ones. Still, I suppose that if you're going to get that sort of thing hanging on anywhere then Oxbridge is exactly the place it's going to happen... even if 95% of the university think that the 'prestigious' old boys' societies are full of arrogant, spoon-fed tossers. Anyway, if I had an extra 10 grand to get through at university then I'd find much better things to spend it on than living with a bunch of lard-arsed homophobes. A copy of Tigermilk would be the first addition to my soon-to-be-rapidly-growing record collection, for instance... Andy Andy Andy Buckley agb31@cam.ac.uk http://i.am/andy_b +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
At 01:45 PM 6/3/99 +0100, you wrote:
Would any US listee like to admit to being part of it and explain why this is complete mispresentation?
sadly, your interpretation was right on. well, i would surely never take part in a frat, but being a student in the school with the largest greek system in teh world (UIUC), its impossible not to run into them and their: khaki shorts, sweaters, Tommy and abercrombie and fitch clothes, baseball hats, matchbox 20/offspring tshirts, and who could forget the homophobic/dumb jock attitudes. all stereotypes, yes, but all true. as a matter of fact, my roomate of this past year decided to "rush" second semester. he told me it was the best thing that ever happened to him. he told me that he finally felt "accepted" by a group. of course, this was after he paid for his so-called friends. yes kids, you heard right, paid. you have to pay a fee to join this gloriously WASPy group and it is after you pay that you get your "friends". they are called your 'brothers for life', they sing songs about each other and partake in confidential ceremonies. they have to memorize information about each other in order to "pass the test". and then if you are truly dedicated and want to become a member and not just a second-class "pledge", well then you will have to go thru many hours of paddling and other humiliating tests. this is a period called "hazing". this is when the "real brothers" make you do stuff that you wouldn't normally want to do. like getting blindfolded and tied up and thrown into a car trunk while your "brothers" drive around campus with you in the trunk. hazing is supposedly outlawed in my school, but it still goes on. my roomate said he didn't have to go thru it, but he knew other members that did. overall, it is a repulsive patriarchial institution. something that most american families take pride in, because the men in a family are supposed to all join the same frat, which somehow is supposed to show that they are "real men". i was once invited to a frat party by my roomate and i went, being naive and welcoming any new social adventures. i thought id stay for the free alcohol, and maybe id convert some of the boys in the frat, but then the dj kept playing "barbie girl" and the rest of the night was filled with backstreet boys and other horrifying top40 songs. later in the evening i was introduced to all the "brothers" by my roomate and he said they really liked me and wanted me to join too. i took this as one of the worst insults of my life and left. dmitry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Is Mr. Dastoor of the Guardian wishing a sorry end to his fellow journalists, fanzine & e-zine editors here?
need to improve their attitude. I think they should start boasting about how they are the best band in the world ever and swear more. Shunning journalists is good, but perhaps fighting them would be even better.
I distinctly recall having read in one of the delightful import magazines that grace the shelves of every Barnes & Noble, Borders, etc. and bring us in THE musical wasteland - home of matchbox 20, offspring, etc. - closer in spirit to the mecca of P!O!P! music that is the UK - Select I think it was - that Stuart had ambitions of becoming a boxer. He is also the inspiration of the fine phrase "arms of sex" for whoever asked (coined by Lesley J Miller?). So I can only conclude there's something fishy about all this ... as if it weren't enough that all his rivals for the scoop were getting papercuts from putting their zines together by hand, plus all the toxic fumes and sprays from toner cartridges, plus all the odd excuses that had to be invented for unwanted lipstick on one's collar ... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Andy Buckley -
Dmitry Komis -
Nick.Dastoor＠guardian.co.uk -
Youn Jong Noh