hey hey, me again! ok so my last 2 posts showed up on the digest in the wrong order...i hate email stuff...grr... da dooke wrote... <<Confront yourself, more than anything, and that's what Pop should do. That's what art does... remember, the art, be it a painting, a song, a pome, whatever, will say more about yourself than anything else.>> making this relevant to belle and sebastian, i've got to say something here. i perhaps pull myself apart, confront and pick at myself as much as i can. and may i tell you lot that its bloody tiring. maybe not when you have a good job, qualifications and relationships, but when you aint, conforntation takes over you life, and SO EAsILY turns into self- hate/self obsession. Belle and Sebastian make me feel better about myself. It seems to me that their role is NOT to confront. They make "gentle pop songs" direct quote from SD there. they fill me with joy, and magic, and love and make me want to hop about the room, and SMILE and fucking FORGET the confrontational hate of the rest of the day. POP. POP can also confront. POP comes in many different ideals if we want to put it that way. Likesay, the manics, B&S, Dexys, Aqua, Wu-effing0Tang, are all POP in whichever way you want to take them, its a personal thing. POP is the most personal thing a person (ok, me) has, and THAT is why it means so much to me. i know, i am a sad bastard. <<Maybe this is truly the problem here; that generations younger than mine are interested not in pulling away the layers and making judgement themselves, but are intent only on the surface, the appearance.>> listen. ok, you are generalising, and there are a lot of twats exactly like that. but not all. trying to make this relevant to B&S again, what layers are there to peel away about B&S, apart from the mulitiple layers of intrigue??? watcha see is watcha get really with them as a BAND, as product and us as consumers. the PROCESS da dook seems to go on about, will be found out about ONLY IF THE PEOPLE LIKE THE BAND finding out about PROCESS follows PRODUCT. that is personally why *i* believeimage is important. B&S's non-image....i like.....but i do not see them being held up to millions. and i don't want them to. so sue me, i am writing myself into a corner. <<The NME act all indignant one week, and the next, it's back to free posters of Popstars and playing the newlabour game of threat free media. It's laughable, but it's painful...>> Yes, wasn't the poster of the Manics nice? I liked that one. I bought the NME for it. The NME is a BUSINESS. It is after making MONEY. Those prints gaurenteed most Manics fans would buy it. the duke seems to imply the papers are SCUm, like all meeja of course, but the new labour article WAS there, there was a full letters page devoted to it in the next issue, people HAVE paid attention. and the NME seems to survive. has it occured to you that the posters were a SELLING POINT? the paper hsa just put its priceup, and needs extra incentive for purchasing, hence free CD and prints. PROMOTIONS. flip, business studies classes are all floooowing back to me..... god, i bet i'll look back on this and wince when i'm in an office...with a suit ...and tie....milking da system..... i'd rather puke. trust me kids, its fun *thumbs up* I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah "I try to make everyones day a little more surreal" ***Calvin!**** http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave -----------------------------------------------------------------------