Sinister: If You're Feeling Sinister
Why can't I wear this record out? Has anyone else had the experience of putting this record on every day for the past six months thinking you might tire of it but you never do? It is like a fix. Judy and the Dream of Horses is the only song that has worn out slightly for me. I am thrilled with the prospect of a long and prosperous career for these guys. Has anyone heard a record they like more this year? The only other record that even comes close for me is Spiritualized's beautfully haunting LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE ARE FLOATING IN SPACE and Moloko's DO YOU LIKE MY TIGHT SWEATER. As far as gender issues, I think Seeing Other People is the best example of this. The song is really ambiguous. When Stuart Murdoch sings, "you'd be better of going with girls at least they know what they're doing" he could be talking to a woman or a man. There's a hand over his mouth because he has to keep the relationship secret.... Still it is kept very ambiguous. One of the newer songs had some ambiguities in it. I think that these songs are the product of a more open minded generation and also probably result in more Smiths comparisons. Morrisey liked to leave things vague as well. How old was the violin player, by the way? matrix ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 10 Sep 1997 12:45:02 -0500, mlang@inch.com (Matrix) said: << Why can't I wear this record out? Has anyone else had the experience of putting this record on every day for the past six months thinking you might tire of it but you never do? It is like a fix. Judy and the Dream of Horses is the only song that has worn out slightly for me. >> Same experience with the record, except that "Judy..." was the last song to 'click' for me. I normally buy something new which sort of takes precedence over older stuff, but I keep going back to this record day after day. I'm beginning to really irritate friends with it too... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------
As far as gender issues, I think Seeing Other People is the best example of this. The song is really ambiguous. When Stuart Murdoch sings, "you'd be better of going with girls at least they know what they're doing" he could be talking to a woman or a man. There's a hand over his mouth because he has to keep the relationship secret....
except of course he sings 'at least they know where to put it', which sort of takes away the ambiguity i think ;-)
songs are the product of a more open minded generation and also probably result in more Smiths comparisons. Morrisey liked to leave things vague as well.
well yeah, i think it IS the product of a generation who are less uptight about defining their sexuality in rigid terms, who are more fluid in their sexuality if you like. i agree with the Smiths/Morrissey thing to a point as well. That was an example of sexuality becoming less fixed, and i think it explains at least in part why Smiths were popular amongst women (aprt from the fact that a lot of my girl friends thought Moz was gorgeous...), but at the same time i think to a lot of people there was a fairly strong and explicit homosexual angle on the Smiths lyrics and performance, certainly in the early days, what with James Maker go-go dancing, and the Wildean reference points. It was kind of perverse anti-Arcadian theatre... and the sexual angle in that was important. I don't think B&S are in any way as political in their sexuality as the early Smiths were. Also, i have to admit i got very annoyed at Morrissey's continual assertion that he was in some way beyond sex, that he was a-sexual, and those of us who knew, knew very well about his 'affairs' with the likes of, oh what was his name, the manager of Easterhouse... whatever his name was. BUt you know, we were fans, we didn't say a thing. I regret that i wasn't strong enough to be angry about his hypocrisy at the time though... Hindsight, huh? waiting with baited breath for the next session track, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent@mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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