Katarina Karlsson wrote concerning Jeepster:

If they wanted to be nice to us I think they should write and explain their great plan now when sinister is feeling a bit offended.

Jeepster have sent me a detailed reply to the points that have been made on this list about them setting up their own discussion list, and it's only fair for me to say that I've been holding it up because of concern for how some minor things they say publically in their response might cause problems for individuals on this list elsewhere, and might threaten my own ability to keep Sinister going. I'm being extra cautious, and I just want to say that the delay is mine, not theirs - I'm waiting for a second response from them now, and I can assure you all that I want them to have their say, and none of the things I've commented on to them affect what they're trying to say in my opinion. Which doesn't mean I agree with it :) But let's be clear, because individuals within Jeepster might feel a bit beleagured and that's not nice for anyone: all my comments are in reference to Jeepster as an organisation and not individuals, and the decisions they make as a business, and the standard list rules continue to apply. It seems to me entirely fair that people on this list can comment about how an organisation that affects their own lives operates. But if anyone has a go at individuals on this list in an offensive way, it's flaming, and I'll jump on them with my big plastic sword. This applies equally to anyone who has a go at individuals within Jeepster as long as they remain list member, so play fair folks. And for the record, I don't *think* any of the mails so far have been flames, but simply responses to the appearance of the Jeepster discussion list which took us all by surprise. A few have been a little close to the line though, so watch out! Finally I close with the wise and relevant words of Graham Linehan, who wrote Father Ted's left half, in yesterday's Guardian. In response to the question: "Does the Internet threaten or enhance individual freedom?" he answers: "There is certainly a lot more pornography available, so more people are feeling it's OK to sit in front of a computer in the nude. That's a kind of freedom." honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+