Sinister: As big as the Cardigans?!?
A faraway friend mentioned the other day that he believed Belle and Sebastian would be as big as the Cardigans soon enough. I can't really see this happening. The Cardigans have a dancey aspect that makes them more accessible to a wider audience. I have heard from more than one person that B&S are "depressing," thus destroying any mass appeal they might have. I have even played them for a couple of people who I was certain would like them, and they just kind of shrugged. Even the friend who likes Simon and Garfunkel and does speed didn't like them. What do you think? Are they movin' on up? And what kind of effect will their rather odd way of dealing with press effect it? michael ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------
Landmine9@aol.com wrote:
A faraway friend mentioned the other day that he believed Belle and Sebastian would be as big as the Cardigans soon enough.
I can't really see this happening. The Cardigans have a dancey aspect that makes them more accessible to a wider audience. I have heard from more than one person that B&S are "depressing," thus destroying any mass appeal they might have. I have even played them for a couple of people who I was certain would like them, and they just kind of shrugged. Even the friend who likes Simon and Garfunkel and does speed didn't like them.
What do you think? Are they movin' on up? And what kind of effect will their rather odd way of dealing with press effect it?
michael
as big as the cardigans may soon become a terribly known underestimate of their impending greatness. has anyone read Select magazine yet? they conducted a league of bands and bought in a team of judges, the idea being to whittle all the current contenders down to a few important bands, Belle and Sebastian came second, only after Bentley Rhythm Ace, and only because Andy Ross at Food hates B&S with a passion. Belle and Sebastian may not be the Spice Girls, but we're not talking about that leg of the race are we? We're talking in the vein of The Smiths and Joy Division, Velvet Underground and every other act that has proved timeless and important to us. And put like that, Belle and Sebastian are going to be stupidly big, whether they do press or not. They are the only band I can name who are important not because of a photo or interview, or drugs and a rock and roll ability to blag, but simply because of great records. As big as the cardigans indeed! -- ************************************************************** http://freespace.virgin.net/d.kitchen/Bluesoda.htm mailto:d.kitchen@virgin.net ************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------
as big as the cardigans may soon become a terribly known underestimate of their impending greatness.
yes, i thought the cardigans reference was hilarious! in a years' time i doubt anyone will remember the cardigans (which isn't to say i don't like their straight up Pop, just, well who remembers Frente!), whereas i have thought for ages that B&S were going to be very big indeed.
they conducted a league of bands and bought in a team of judges, the idea being to whittle all the current contenders down to a few important bands, Belle and Sebastian came second, only after Bentley Rhythm Ace, and only because Andy Ross at Food hates B&S with a passion.
well we all know he has the taste of a porcupine. (??!!) sorry to dis porcupines...
Belle and Sebastian may not be the Spice Girls, but we're not talking about that leg of the race are we? We're talking in the vein of The Smiths
again the smiths... and again it's to do with the fact that B&S are at the stage where they generate polar opposites of opinion. You love them unconditionally or you think they're a bunch of depressing tossers. it was the same with the smiths, although that did change to some extent later on. As it will no doubt for B&S. The press can very easily pick up B&S and not give a toss about whether they give interviews or whatever... they can choose to describe them to their readers in any way they want, and i have a sneaky suspicion that they will push a line of B&S being the alternative to Oasis, something like that. But that's just my opinion.
They are the only band I can name who are important not because of a photo or interview, or drugs and a rock and roll ability to blag, but simply because of great records.
oooh, that's being simplistic about the nature of POP surely? :-) we must know that the greatest thing about Pop is that a great record does not make a great Pop Group... it's a jigsaw puzzle of linked elements. it's clothes they wear, the way they dance (or not!), the things they say (or don't)... a whole host of things. B&S are not going to be big JUST because of great songs. That helps, but don't pretend they are outside the Pop circle and are not being forced to play by some of the media industry rules. respect, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent@mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------
David & Katrina wrote:
Landmine9@aol.com wrote:
A faraway friend mentioned the other day that he believed Belle and Sebastian would be as big as the Cardigans soon enough.
Funny this is mentioned. I have a friend who is the music director for a station called Live 105 in San Francisco. The station is one of three or four "trendsetters" as far as commercial radio goes in the U.S. I had heard that they might start playing "Dylan In The Movies" so I asked him about it. He said "Oh yeah, we're adding it next week, we all (the programming board) love it. It has a Cardigans kind of appeal." Granted, the US radio mix has the strings and guitars turned up so it does sort of highlight the same aspects of what we have come to expect from Cardigans songs. No doubt people are catching on to Belle and Sebastain. If you're one of those protective types that don't like sharing your bands and are hoping B & S will remain some underground phenom like Felt you're wrong. The only question is can Belle and Sebastain have the public success that they are about to achieve, and remain with integrity intact in future recordings. There is no doubt in my mind that the answer is yes. It's a fine line that very few can walk. Pavement could, Blur could not. Radiohead could, R.E.M could not. There place in history is obviously yet to be determined, but the names like Joy Division, The Smiths etc are not out of line at all. Slogan: Belle and Sebastain, the thinking persons Oasis! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister@majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister@majordomo.net -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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