It's me again. Insomnia is ravaging at this wee hour of the morning. As there appears to be no new Belle and Sebastian news to report and the end of the decade is rapidly approaching (the first that I've lived through cognizant of music minus any Disney tracks), is anyone up for "best of" lists, e.g. "Top 25 Albums of the Decade", "Top 50 Songs of the Decade", "Top 10 Guitarists", "Songwriters", etc.? If anyone is interested in rating the best (or worst), I'm game as this should provide plenty of grist for our sinister mill until the release of Belle and Sebastian's new LP. Give me a few days to think and I'll start off the fun with a "Top 25 Albums of the Decade" list. Mark ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Mark said:
is anyone up for "best of" lists, e.g. "Top 25 Albums of the Decade", "Top 50 Songs of the Decade", "Top 10 Guitarists", "Songwriters", etc.?
Erm... We've had "lists of lists" episodes on Sinister before (and in fact "lists of lists of lists") and it's not been good for the coherence and readability of Sinister: see, it's very easy to wham out a list of "things I like" with little thought and send it off, so potentially we might have 1000 of them in each of our mailboxes by tomorrow morning. And 1000x1000=a lot of mails. I've seen this decimate other lists in the past and lead to a very low signal-to-noise ratio, and everyone suddenly starts hitting "delete" and doesn't ever stop. So we all start mailing stuff blind and not hearing what each other say. Then the sun explodes and life on earth ceases to be. My take on this is as follows: you can't do much with a simple list of "Top 50 Songs" from someone, and if any debate at all ensues it's usually of the "you're kidding, it's complete shit" family, which is fun for 10 minutes but tires a bit by next August. So here's the age-old rule: if you're going to send in a list to Sinister, take the time to pepper it with *reasons why*, which do encourage debate, and add a bit of yourself into it. But please we don't want 500 mails which say: Hi losers, your lists all suck, here's mine: 1. Abba: The Best Of 2. Roger Whittaker: The Best Of 3. Motorhead: The Gentle Side Of 4. Boney M: The Very Best Of The Best Of 5. Chris Leonard: Fruits Of The Forest And Bay City Rollers kick ass too. Bye, Miss H xx No disrespect to Mark by the way: Mark, the other way of doing this, because lists are made for browsing, is for you to offer to receive all these lists from people, compile them into a single list, and put up on the WWW, rather like Lovely Laura LLew's Lovely Literary Lovely List - I'd be happy to put a link on the Sinister page to it as long as it was an ongoing thing. It could be Mark's Marvellous Measuring Machine or something. Honey x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
It's me again. Insomnia is ravaging at this wee hour of the morning. As there appears to be no new Belle and Sebastian news to report and the end of the decade is rapidly approaching (the first that I've lived through cognizant of music minus any Disney tracks), is anyone up for "best of" lists, e.g. "Top 25 Albums of the Decade", "Top 50 Songs of the Decade", "Top 10 Guitarists", "Songwriters", etc.? If anyone is interested in rating the best (or worst), I'm game as this should provide plenty of grist for our sinister mill until the release of Belle and Sebastian's new LP. Give me a few days to think and I'll start off the fun with a "Top 25 Albums of the Decade" list. Also does anyone know what the deal with the "Mary Jo" single is? I have an old Select (this year) which contains an advert for "Mary jo" by B&S but nowhere else is there a mention of this. HELP!!!:) As one could discern from my title, this email is to recount in loving and unneccessary detail about my going to see one of my fave bands, GARBAGE here in Perth, W.A.:) Went to see Garbage (wierdly supporting the queen of YUCK that is Alanis Morrissette) on Tuesday, which was terrific. $70 for an hour
Sounds like a GREAT IDEA. I for one am always up for it. Others can start first but rest assured my "albums of the decade" will include B&S, Belly and lots more!:) On Sat, 16 Oct 1999, Mark Niciu wrote: performance (couldn't bear to stay for Alanis) is of course extremely ridiculous, but it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity and pretty worth it I thought. Support band Stellar sounded a lot like a rock Sneakerpimps and were pretty non descript. But when Shirley came on, it was so absolutely AMAZING! She seemed slightly shorter than I'd imagined her to be but she just commandeered the whole place with her magnetic presence. She was funny, hypnotic and great to watch. They played all their classics though I could have done without "Hammering in my head" and "dumb" for "queer" and "not my idea" instead. The sound was a perfect pitch between their dark, sinister, menacing side with their rocking and poppy side. Loved how before "vow" they had a sample that said, "don't you know all bad girls go to hell". Shirls even incorporated Britney Spears "Hit Me Baby One More Time" into one of her songs! Brought a tape recorder but unfortunately batteries didn't work- CRAP!!!:( Would have been such a magnificent bootleg to have. Nearly on par with Radiohead for my fave gig ever I guess, but the fact that Radiohead was vastly cheaper and they played for longer tip it over in favour of the 'Head. Afterwards, went to the side door to see if we could get a siggie (signature) from the band. This is where the biggest letdown of the night occurred. There were only a small bunch of us, very orderly too awaiting the majesty of Garb's, but when they finally came out, only Shirley waved to the fans (others ignored us!) and there was this big burly guard that prevented us from going closer to them for an autograph. Swindled! I thought Shirls etc would be happy to sign just a handful of autographs since that's the impression I get from all their interviews. Instead, they just piled into a van and waved as they drove off- BOO!!! Was hoping to add to my collection of famous Scots autographs along with Ewan McGregor and Teenie Fanclub! Still had an awesome night and nothing can take away from my pleasure of my memory of that:) (wierd sentence but nevermind!) ok that's all folks:) Gotta run, hope to hear from some of you re: "Mary Jo" conundrum and of course to see some "best of" lists seeya Kin Woo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
Hello one and all . . . Ah, what a great weekend. First of all let me say thank you to all those kind and lovely souls who wrote back to me about the price of Tigermilk - there were just too many of you for me to reply individually, so sorry, but here's a big fat THANKS. I don't want to gloat (well, not too much anyway - my housemates are sick of me screaming TIIIIGGGEEEERRMMMIIIILLLLKKKKK!!!! at the top of my voice, so I'll only do it once here, I promise (although I s'pose that could count as twice, but nevermind :-))). Anyways, on Saturday I managed to buy the most unbelivably mint condition copy of Tigermilk I've ever seen (although it is the only one I've seen) (oh dear, I must have caught bracketitis off a fellow Sinisterine :-)). Kin Woo scribbled:
Also does anyone know what the deal with the "Mary Jo" single is? I have an old Select (this year) which contains an advert for "Mary jo" by B&S but nowhere else is there a mention of this. HELP!!!:)
Indeed, I have the copy of Select about which you're talking (the one with Blur and the Tigermilk review, I think) pondered this myself on many occasions, and have now come to the conclusion that it was in fact an advert for the whole album . . . unless someone who actually knows one way or the other would like to set the record straight???!!! Non B&S bit: Erica complained:
unless you're the jumping up and down jeering beer-boy types - yes, I mean *you*! that was ME scowling at you from the mosh on Wednesday at dingwalls, you swines)
Ah, how much I hate those jumpy-up-and-down-moshpit-y-people. Last night this really crap band played our uni, and a load of physic geeks (no offence anyone out there who does physics, but, hey, if you saw this lot, you'd call 'em geeks too :-)) jumped up and down, making the whole night worse cos they trod on my feet and spilt my beer all over me . . . At least I got to laugh heartily as the jumped up and down completely out of time, but that's not the point. Now, I used to think this was an affliction only bands such as the Stereophonics suffered, so imagine my shock when I saw the Happy Mondays at T In The Park (expecting friendly Scottish crowds - got a bunch of rude arseholes, in general, although some B&S/Smiths songs were played on the speakers in between bands, and Ooberman were fantastic, but anyway . . .) when people moshed to . . . the Happy Mondays. Oh yes. They then proceeded to throw their sweaty arms around me and ask why I wasn't joining in!!! Eventually, I managed to move to the side and DANCE, but RAAAA. How can anyone mosh to the Happy Mondays. Earlier on in the day, some freaky Placebo/Manics fan (two of my most hated groups in the whole world) had covered his face and hair in sun cream, resulting in making himself look like a right TWAT. He then moshed with about four of his mates to Muse (who were pretty disappointing on the whole), crushing this poor wee lass into the mud, and just laughing. Some kids then threw a liquid over them and started chuckling when the moshing twats acted like they thought everyone reckoned they were heroes . . . until they smelt what had been thrown over them. Usually I am anti-throwing-of-piss, but on this one occasion I was stricken with mirth :-) Ok, I'd better go now, so byeeeeeee, Ian. *********************** Ian Hatcher igh1@ukc.ac.uk rutherford jcc ents#1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the reborn Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list mail "sinister@majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo@majordomo.net". WWW: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +-+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" "tech-heads and students" +-+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +-+ "jelly-filled danishes" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
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