From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Dec 1 03:31:05 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 22:31:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: heaven & hell Message-ID: <971130223105_-757930985@mrin52.mail.aol.com> > > > "The closest thing to heaven is rock 'n' roll" > > I think rock'n'roll by definition -- or at least good/great rock'n'roll -- is that it is the music of being young. That very heady time when something can be very powerful and exciting, and things touch you very deeply. It's music of rebellion and freedom. Something in the music of a particular band or of a particular song or style reaches what you feel inside but maybe can't quite articulate. And you say "YES!!" and for that moment you feel less alone or unsure, all's right with the world, and you can fly on that. That's very close to heavenly... That's why so many different genres fall under that "rock'n'roll" heading -- it's all so personal, what one is feeling or needing at a particular time of life. There are bands that are loved by younger kids because they touch those 13 and 14 year old insecurities -- those bands get dismissed by others who have maybe "gone beyond" those things. But those little schoolgirl crushes on pretty rock boys are very valid and useful at that time of life. There's metal for those who need to yell "F--- the World," in one way, and bands like Pearl Jam or whatever that deal with the perception of being alone and apart. Scorn me if you will, but I really like Pearl Jam because I can remember that raw emotion. I can understand exactly how that music touches people. It's like a cosmic shriek or something. And if you can tap into that and be a part of it during the song, it's like a great letting go. The very best bands of any of the "sub-genres" touch a universal chord -- no matter how old you are or where you are in your life, you can identify with the emotion, whether you're currently living it or remembering it. Oh, I've gone on and on, just to say that I think music is emotional, and emotions can certainly be heavenly, when they aren't a living hell... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R2-CROWLEY at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 09:21:28 1997 From: R2-CROWLEY at xxx.uk (Rodney Crowley) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 09:21:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Lamacq & Lyrics Message-ID: As Andy said: [.....] >and steve lamacq was worse than ever last night. i've >decided he must die... Saw something the in Independent yesterday looking at what happens next now the Britpop bubble bursts. Lamacq's great insight was to say that one thing that may happen is the rise of "commercial anti-pop like Belle & Sebastian". No problem with the "commercial" bit but "anti-pop"? This is just unnacceptable as far as I am concerned. In what sense is B&S anti-pop? Anti-pop is Celine Dion, Bush, Ocean Colour Scene, Kula Shaker, Elton John, bloody Perfect Day. Pop is All Saints, pop is Aqua, pop is Belle & Sebastian. Where's the problem in that...? Lyrics...can anyone tell me what relationship B&S lyric sheets have to the actual songs? Have you noticed they are almost always subtly different from the songs themselves. Are the printed lyrics an earlier incarnation of the song? Are the band playing games with our listening pleasure? Or are the written lyrics a "listesque" mishearing of the actual song by some Jeepster minion? Does anyone know?? RodneyXX ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 09:30:28 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 09:30:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian Gossip Message-ID: <01bcfe3b$c2ae7530$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Belle and Sebastian gossip from the weekend : 1. The group were asked to perform on Jools Holland's program, however, it apparently, get this, costs 3 grand to get on the program! Yes, that's right COSTS, Tag, perhaps you could ask Bob about this, but this is what it seems to be. 2. Chris Geddes has got a skinhead! Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Mon Dec 1 10:26:50 1997 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:26:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: stuff.... Message-ID: <01BCFE43.A6F6FE40@manray.impressions-gallery.com> hello all, Ah, the dog-faced hermans and the tvps..... I remember seeing the television personalities at the Harlow Square (infamous venue) way back in the day... I also saw boo radleys when they were a dinosaur jr cover band (or so it seemed) and, to get back to an earlier thread, flowered up. Unfortunately, the day all my friends went to see a band called seymour, I didn't bother to turn up, thereby missing a gig by the nascent blur... Actually, I also had a close brush with the breakthrough gig of another top pop combo. I used to go out with a girl called hetty in glasgow who lived 'round the corner from king tuts. If we were knackered and 'tuts was lively, we would often vent our spleen by leaning out the windo and yelling at them to shut up (prematurely aged or what?) so chances are that while the bros gallaghers were impressing mr mcgee with their lightning ax work at King tuts (thus making some kind of dubious pop history) I was probably leaning out the window telling them to shut up... looking back, I wish I'd run down and pulled out the fuses... I could have saved us from them and ocean colour scene in one fell swoop... would of cost me a fat lip, for sure, but worth it. >Didn't the Dog-Faced Hermans do something which collapsed into the theme >from >Coronation Street played on a trumpet over their mad no-wave jazz type >stylings - or was that another of my weird childhood dreams? There was an excellent reggae version of the coronation st theme tune, but I can't remember who it was by... s'all for now, pop-kids (sorry, no b&s content, either) love ya mattxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 10:52:57 1997 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 10:52:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dance to indiepop/C86/pop-punk classics this Friday!! Message-ID: <10A5BE10344@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Its that time of the month again..... Offbeat ..... A bit different from your average indie night - where else could you hear Helen Love, Half Man Half Biscuit, The Field Mice, Dead Kennedys and Belle and Sebastian played in sequence !!?? OFFBEAT - a real indiepop night....... with late bar, free lollipops and request sheets Sheffield Uni' SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome) 9pm to 1am, £2.50 on the door... on Saturday 1st November Friday 5th December Playing......Classic Indie, Punk POP 1977-1997 and C86/C96/new underground of indiepop..... HELEN LOVE-HEAVENLY-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN-DELGADOS DWEEB-CHAMELEONS-PASTELS-R.E.M.-SMITHS-PAVEMENT- FALL- BLUR-JAM-HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT-TALULAH GOSH- SUPER FURRY ANIMALS-ELASTICA-CURVE-URUSEI YATSURA- BOGSHED-TIGER-SNUFF-DEAD KENNEDYS-PWEI-CARTER USM- DISCO PISTOL- COMET GAIN -VELODROME 2000-ANORAK GIRL STEREOLAB-CHINA DRUM-BLAGGERS ITA- BUZZCOCKS-BIS- WEDDING PRESENT-ASH-SONIC YOUTH-BODINES-PIXIES-CUD PRIMAL SCREAM (early)-GENE-SHOP ASSISTANTS-FIELD MICE CHILLS-PETER AND THE TEST TUBE BABIES-BLUEBOY-SCARFO. plus many more in the same vein...... for more details/to join the Offbeat mailing list email C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Dec 1 11:02:13 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 11:02:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jools rules References: <199711301352.NAA11972@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34829935.14DE@virgin.net> .j 0n wrote: > > does anyone know if b+s will be on later with jools holland next > week? > > thanks > > .j 0n No, they won't be. Maybe next April though. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Dec 1 11:02:17 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 11:02:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian Gossip References: <01bcfe3b$c2ae7530$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34829939.1851@virgin.net> Keith Watson wrote: > > Belle and Sebastian gossip from the weekend : > > 1. The group were asked to perform on Jools Holland's program, however, it > apparently, get this, costs 3 grand to get on the program! Yes, that's right > COSTS, Tag, perhaps you could ask Bob about this, but this is what it seems > to be. Umm, this isn't strictly true, and there has already been a huge upset at the BBC and in the music industry by people spreading this rumour, so i don't mean to censor, but please don't spread this around as it could be dangerous. Sorry to come over all record company Keith ... I hope people don't mind? Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Mon Dec 1 11:13:27 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 12:13:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Digestives Message-ID: <34829BD7.885E3300@colon.net.> I haven't disappeared, I've just gone digestive. Lots of interesting messages to answer over the weekend, but I'll try to resist the temptation to pour out a vociferous defence of homeless heroin ADDICTS. Duke's Pop Theory: When we were all debating the sixteen-ness of pop not so long ago, it occurred to me that the only music connected to sixteen-ness was in fact early rock'n'roll, such as Bill Haley, who has recently taken up a post as coach of FC Barcelona. There, I know that wasn't very deep, but when I get chance I might go into it a bit more, see if I can qualify as at least a bespectacled verger of pop. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Mon Dec 1 12:43:20 1997 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 12:43:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian Gossip Message-ID: > Belle and Sebastian gossip from the weekend : >> >> 1. The group were asked to perform on Jools Holland's program, however, it >> apparently, get this, costs 3 grand to get on the program! Yes, that's right >> COSTS, Tag, perhaps you could ask Bob about this, but this is what it seems >> to be. > >Umm, this isn't strictly true, and there has already been a huge upset >at the BBC and in the music industry by people spreading this rumour, so >i don't mean to censor, but please don't spread this around as it could >be dangerous. Sorry to come over all record company Keith ... I hope >people don't mind? Perhaps you should ask the members of the band to stop saying this then. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Mon Dec 1 13:35:47 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:35:47 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Digestives (was: Loveless) [NO B&S CONTENT] Message-ID: <199712011335.OAA18362@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Peter wrote ... >Lots of interesting messages to answer over the weekend, but >I'll try to resist the temptation to pour out a vociferous >defence of homeless heroin ADDICTS. Alright, being the one who allegedly started a war on this list without B&S content, I find it appropriate to straighten out that my relevant mail wasn't a personal attack towarded against Gina. My apologies for the ambiguous character ... Furthermore, the latest news on the issue from reliable sources, which are suggesting that both the heroin addiction and nights at the park bench of my favourite ever songwriter are outdated news. I'm sincerely hoping that this is accurate ... Finally, I'd like to express my apologies in advance for possibly infringing the rules of this list (again), only thought it appropriate to clarify matters discussed previously and give some kind of comfort for those who even started to care. I'm hoping some fellow listees will observe a minute's silence for Epic Sountracks today ... "Hearts are like flowers ... to be broken" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Mon Dec 1 14:28:08 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:28:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Bromide In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 29 Nov 1997, Honey wrote: > Winter's setting in and it's going to be a long one. Wars are starting up > with no B&S content. Even Peter Miller's taken a break. So in a hopeless > attempt to keep you all going: best B&S anagram. > > My favourite is: > > Bleed Satan Lesbian NAN SELL BAD BEASTIE SENSIBLE BANAL DATE BALLAD BE SENT IN SEA SAD SENILE TABLE BAN > No cheating. Wouldn't catch me > doing that. You wouldn't catch me either. I might do it, but you wouldn't catch me! > I'm ill, I've got an excuse, what's yours?? I've got my first dissertation deliverable due in next week. I need all the distraction I can get. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I bribe Greek cod ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Mon Dec 1 14:30:14 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:30:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: In-Reply-To: <34815261.4D917E29@ath.forthnet.gr> Message-ID: > Jamie Huxley wrote: > > > "The closest thing to heaven is rock 'n' roll" > > > > Discuss On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Nicholas Ioannidis wrote: > Define "heaven" first. (oooh baby do you know what that's worth?) Heaven is a place on earth. Sadly, due to an administrative cock-up, that place is Cumbernauld. Hope This Helps. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Can he swing? Listen, bud! He's got radioactive blood. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 14:41:09 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:41:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Belle and Sebastian Gossip Message-ID: <142DE0512AC@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> Keith - >Belle and Sebastian gossip from the weekend : > >1. The group were asked to perform on Jools Holland's program, >however, it apparently, get this, costs 3 grand to get on the >program! Yes, that's right COSTS, Tag, perhaps you could ask Bob >about this, but this is what it seems to be. > >2. Chris Geddes has got a skinhead! oooooow. Has he got a lover? chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Dec 1 14:51:12 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:51:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Bromide In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Rod Begbie wrote: > NAN SELL BAD BEASTIE > SENSIBLE BANAL DATE > BALLAD BE SENT IN SEA > SAD SENILE TABLE BAN BANAL, ELITE BADNESS. One for the NME maybe. Did you know that their names contains the word "tennis-balls"? Useful that. -- HoneyChile ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ah6991 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 14:58:04 1997 From: ah6991 at xxx.uk (A FRIEND) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 14:58:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Rock 'n' Roll Message-ID: It's funny, but when anyone introduces a song as rock 'n' roll I expect either a fifties-throwback elvis impersonator, or some dire oasis clone. Do you think this is because I grew up under the malign influence of steve Lurpak? (Who was - after John Peel - the only source of decent new music to be found in Cumbria.) I like Jamie's suggestion as well - surely there is someone in the music world who deserves to have the entire B&S list send them hate mail at the same time. Any ideas? (Just a suggestion) See you all in Manc on the Saturday - I'll be the one who can't see past all the tall people standing at the front (do you guys fancy standing just a little further back, where your heads don't get in the way?) Love you all Adam. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 16:05:58 1997 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (SL Collins) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:05:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S Nonsense In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Happy first of December everyone. Only two weeks to go before I will be reunited with my copy of Tigermilk. Would it offend the purists out there to say that i am contemplating mixing some CJ Bolland or Roni Size with 'the state i am' in over the holidays? Much as I love B&S as they are, there always has to be room for experimentation. I promise that if I get a pair of anything for Christmas I will name one of them Belle and one of them Sebastian. Thatll be all Simon . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 13:46:38 1997 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:46:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pyschik warriors of shambling Message-ID: <00034332.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> In a message dated 28/11/97 9:08:44 pm, Andreas.Hering at stud.uni-hannover.de wrote: << >I'm familiar only with the Dog-Faced Hermans rendition. Which song was >that in now? >> Didn't the Dog-Faced Hermans do something which collapsed into the theme from Coronation Street played on a trumpet over their mad no-wave jazz type stylings - or was that another of my weird childhood dreams? Honestly, there's loads of things from when I was about 16/17 that I can't remember whether I imagined or not ... when I first heard The State I Am In (wow, B&S content!!!) I thought I recognised it from 1987 or something ... am I psychic or just stupid eg.... 1. All you good good Scottish people ... anyone remember a band called This Poison! and a song called Poised Over The Pause Button? Yeah - I've got a 7" on Reception Records called 'Engine Failure'/ 'You Think!" very fast guitars in an early Weddoes fashion, with a bit of McCarthy thrown in for good measure. I also have a session somewhere on tape which includes the classic "St Johnstone". If anyone has anything else by them they could tape me, e-mail me off list. The Archdeacon of Pop 2. Who did a song (late 80s) called Let's Go Out - very upbeat, played by Peel 3. Did anyone else think that I Beg Your Pardon by Kon Kan was the greatest thing ever released for about ... oooooh ...... two weeks - what the hell was all that about? simon directing traffic on the disco floor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.168) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00033435; Sat, 29 Nov 97 11:47:55 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA03330 for sinister-outgoing; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:27:57 GMT Received: from mrin51.mail.aol.com (mrin51.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.161]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id LAA03326 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:27:48 GMT From: Smundy97 at xxx.com Received: (from root at localhost) by mrin51.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id GAA19632 for sinister at majordomo.net; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 06:28:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 06:28:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971129062841_-1004187413 at mrin51.mail.aol.com> To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Re: Re: Sinister: pyschik warriors of shambling Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Smundy97 at aol.com From 95516123 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 13:49:45 1997 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:49:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pyschik warriors of shambling Message-ID: <00034334.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> > 1. All you good good Scottish people ... anyone > remember a band called This > Poison! and a song called Poised Over The Pause > Button? ah This Poison!... recorded for the wedding present's 'reception' label and had a killer single called 'engine failure' which had penguins on the cover and on the labels said the time for both songs was '2.53'. they weren't of course, it was just some Pop notion that said the perfect Pop Song was that length... They were from Perth weren't they? home also to the occassionally wonderful Relations who were due to do a record on a label set up by ex-Jasminks man Adam Sanderson, but i dunno if it ever did appear :-( > 2. Who did a song (late 80s) called Let's Go > Out - very upbeat, played by > Peel could be well off target here, but i think it was The Very Things, who also did the very excellent 'Motortown'. and the even better 'The Bushes Scream While My Daddy Prunes" The Archdeacon of Pop > 3. Did anyone else think that I Beg Your Pardon > by Kon Kan was the greatest > thing ever released for about ... oooooh ...... > two weeks - what the hell was > all that about? no idea... you are speaking in tongues. B&S content? Is it just me or does the girl talking on the Arab Strap's 'themetune' on the 7" on Lissy's Label sound uncannily like Isobel or Sarah or whoever it is that talks at the end of 'I Could Be Dreaming'? Just a thought, and i have to say actually that i am currently totally enraptured by 'the strap'... listening to the Peel session stuff, and some 'live on radio one' material that my mate taped for me, and oooh, it's just so glorious. winding down to start up again. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.168) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 000334C7; Sat, 29 Nov 97 14:41:40 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA03905 for sinister-outgoing; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:20:36 GMT Received: from hermes.zynet.net (hermes.zynet.net [194.154.160.251]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id OAA03901 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:20:27 GMT Received: from varies.zynet.co.uk (ex1-p8.zynet.co.uk [194.154.163.9]) by hermes.zynet.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA27829 for ; Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:21:45 GMT Message-ID: <34801706.DBFDB258 at mail.zynet.co.uk> Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 13:22:15 +0000 From: the duke of harringay Organization: tangents X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Re: Sinister: pyschik warriors of shambling X-Priority: 3 (Normal) References: <971129062841_-1004187413 at mrin51.mail.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: the duke of harringay From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Mon Dec 1 16:12:32 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:12:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Christmas gigs register Message-ID: <80256560.00597352.00@bull.co.uk> ok, i thought it'd be a good idea to put together a list of all the list members that are going to either of the christmas gigs - that way we know who to expect to meet and we can tell that cafe just how much extra lots of cheese on toast to order 8) anyway send me a mail (that's me andrew.dean at bull.net and not the list or paul will, i dunno, get angry or something and the rest of us will point and laugh at your stupidity) with the following details a) name and email address b) whether you're going to the sat or sun gig or both c) whether you'd be interested in meeting up beforehand and i'll post the compiled list back to sinister nearer the date (at the last couple of gigs i've been to i've missed people simply because i didn't know they were there, this is an attempt to remedy that...) cheers andy is it 5 o'clock yet? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 16:00:43 1997 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 16:00:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Retentive Anagrams Message-ID: What do you mean 'not cheating' to do with anagrams? Behold the occurrences of BALLS and ANAL in the anagrams below. It seems that Belle and Sebastian have a good amount of fleshy tubes and spheres in their underlying *corso recorso*........ *********************************** The following are anagrams of 'Belle and Sebastian': Insane Balls debate. Bad balls tease nine. Lessen bad anal bite. Bleedin' anal beasts. Dean's table lesbian. An essential dabble. Lesbian's bean-delta. Lesbian's beaten lad. Absentee balls and I. Balls in a senate bed. Let's enable a bad sin. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamie.huxley at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 17:42:37 1997 From: jamie.huxley at xxx.uk (Jamie Huxley) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 17:42:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: nough anagramse that is an anagram of "enough anagrams" see you after the revolution Jimmy Jazz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 18:11:49 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:11:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Beatnik Competition Results Message-ID: <199712011814.SAA24945@orange.easynet.co.uk> Well I'm sure you're all holding your breath in anticipation... The correct answer to the question 'Name the Beatnik member of Top Cat's gang?' is... SPOOK! I think I must have dreamt that bit about him wearing a beret, though. (although there was that episode where TC pretended to be a French painter to fool Officer Dibble....) . Most people said 'Benny', while Peter suggested Choo Choo. The only person to get the question right was our beloved leader, 'il mulch petal'... I mean Honey. If you send me your address, Paul, your book and CD will be winging their way to you tomorrow! By the way, David, I have a vague memory of promising to do some colour scanning for you. Can you remind me of the exact details? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Mon Dec 1 18:09:55 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 13:09:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: what sandwiches? In-Reply-To: <199711302242.WAA00246@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: call me a crazy yank, but i just can't warm up to marmite. somehow, partially decomposed vegetable slime just doesn't stimulate my appetite. although, i must admit that i've never had it, i've just heard all about it from my roommate, whose mum is british. and isn't there another variety--something pickled, or canned in brine? erm...b&s content?...do you suppose they like marmite? actually, i'm in paroxysms of despair, since i lost about a dozen cd's a week ago, one of which was iyfs. i've now been without b&s for a week. sorry about the rambling, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From zchari5 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 18:28:46 1997 From: zchari5 at xxx.uk (Sithu) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 18:28:46 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19971201182846.2def5f98@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> Hello everyone, I write for a student magazine in London (UCL) and I would like any information on Belle and Sebastian that you lot have. (please) Your own views on B&S, interesting gossip, and most definitely photos of them (saying who's who) would be appreciated. Could anyone please send me a copy of as many songs/demos as you have that are not on the last 2 albums or after Dog on Wheels? Cheers. Can you filter out the trivia that is e-mailed to you in anyway cos 100 messages from this source is time consuming. PS You're all quite mad but still quite funny Something about bunnies..., happy, happy, um yeh, the insanity seems to spread. Merry Xmas (I'm going home to the north-east, yahoo!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Mon Dec 1 18:57:03 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 18:57:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: what sandwiches Message-ID: <80256560.00685973.00@bull.co.uk> >Sithu (zchari5 at ucl.ac.uk) >Mon, 01 Dec 1997 18:28:46 +0000 >Hello everyone, >I write for a student magazine in London... >Could anyone please send me a copy of as many >songs/demos... >Can you filter out the trivia that is e-mailed to you... you don't want much then? actually sithu, there's nobody from the band on this list. there are a couple of people associated with the fan club and / or the record company here but nobody from the actual band. and without the trivia this list would be very quiet... anyway, back to the marmite... when i was over visiting my ex-pat friend in america i asked a couple of his friends if there was anything that i could take him and they both said marmite. it's good stuff, wholesome vegetarian food, bit too much salt to be actively good for you but nice and tangy. good on toast too. good on cheese on toast as well. nice and black with it. um, this is making me hungry. and i only have vegemite at home too (similar thing but australian and not as good, you can tell just by looking at the shape of the pot...). wah! andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Dec 1 19:12:13 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 19:12:13 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.16.19971201182846.2def5f98@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, Sithu wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I write for a student magazine in London (UCL) and I would like any > information on Belle and Sebastian that you lot have. (please) Your own > views on B&S, interesting gossip, and most definitely photos of them > (saying who's who) would be appreciated. I've only got one thing to add here: if you use stuff from the archives on my WWW site please MAKE SURE you ask the authors permission first. This is standard protocol on mailing lists. Ta, Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ds3624a at xxx.edu Mon Dec 1 19:22:24 1997 From: ds3624a at xxx.edu (Damon Seils) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 14:22:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: what sandwiches? References: Message-ID: <34830E70.3DACBF42@american.edu> well, take it from this crazy yank, who has actually had marmite... it is a disturbing experience, though not wholly unsatisfying. (damon) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Mon Dec 1 19:34:39 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 19:34:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: beatnik competition (no b&s) Message-ID: <80256560.006BD3C9.00@bull.co.uk> stephen (whose name i spelt wrong last time. and i spelt his second name wrong the time before that too, sorry) >Well I'm sure you're all holding your breath in >anticipation... >The correct answer to the question 'Name the Beatnik member >of Top Cat's gang?' is... um, i plumped for choo-choo myself, at least i did before i found a decent hanna barbera site (and you had to look for hanna barbera and top cat using lycos because if you only used 'top cat' you'd get back links like this one: >swimsuits iku always wild cat champioships panty live asia >legal filth housewives pornstar sensuous behind trade orgy >mpegs cumshots mini skirt watersports xporn disney pictuers >vivian hsu getting fuck pics hairy crawford ready daily >http://www.sexcolors.com/file/_0555.html [99% relevant] which i'd hate to have to explain to anybody monitoring the traffic here at work...) anyway, the one i found in the end is here: http://members.aol.com/vanman2677/tcgal/spook.jpg it's not quite a beret. are you sure you aren't thinking of the aristocats? and i'm sure those of you who want things to be a bit more relevant will be pleased to hear that i'm going home now... andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 19:29:50 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 19:29:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S Nonsense References: Message-ID: <3483102E.E9061EE3@mail.zynet.co.uk> > Would it offend the purists out there to say > that i am contemplating > mixing some CJ Bolland or Roni Size with 'the > state i am' in over the > holidays? this kind of tomfoolery goes down at the Living Room every other week! do keep up... respectfully, dj duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 21:13:33 1997 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 21:13:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: joke Message-ID: <199712012000.UAA09659@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> You know the Spice Girls have sacked their manager? Yes And they're looking for a new Girl Power, female manager? Yes Well, apparantley Louise Woodward applied for the job. Posh Spice and Ginger Spice were really pleased but Baby Spice was afraid she might be dropped! arf arf arf Northy from the paw of the pink panther or just Northy being escapist? _________________________________________________ ``A man is as old as the women he feels.'' - Groucho Marx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamie.huxley at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 21:05:49 1997 From: jamie.huxley at xxx.uk (Jamie Huxley) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 21:05:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: advice Message-ID: A friendly piece of advice to all on the list: keep your mouth shut when the vice-master of your college/university tells you to turn your music down subvert from within, comrades Jimmy Jazz maybe ill return after the interogation ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 22:07:13 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:07:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: rwbhip Message-ID: TO THOSE WHO PASSS THAT THEY MAY SEE ROCK'N'ROLL WAS A PART OF ME NICK COHN can i sum anything up with that, very simply? ihaven't read all your anaylises yet cos my brain is frozen. sdjfkpgrhjkaisdgiaebrog[!!!!! i'm sick of typing!!!! -- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 23:40:53 1997 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 23:40:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: some questions Message-ID: <199712012229.WAA25698@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> As a "newie" to the list I need a few questions answered What did "IYFS" get in its NME review? Is "T" going to be rereleased? Are Belle and Sebastian going to play a London gig some time next year? What is the track called at the end of the 3..6..9 seconds of light EP? No fuss please only quick, short answers Sorry if anyone was offended by my joke but just like the Diana jokes, although you'll be so *sorry* to tell them, they'll be reverberating around your office like so many bouncing balls from the paw of the pink panther or just Northy being escapist? _________________________________________________ ``A man is as old as the women he feels.'' - Groucho Marx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PMA97CW at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 22:51:53 1997 From: PMA97CW at xxx.uk (Chris Worth) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:51:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nik cohn Message-ID: <11705C25E26@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Sarah: "To all who pass may they see, rock 'n' roll was a part of me" Who's been learning by heart the quotations on the Manics' 'Generation Terrorists' album?! How about, "Elvis was a star to most, but he never meant shit to me"! Chuck D Can't think of any amusing anagrams... Erm, a bit bored, trying to sell off a large part of my rather shit record and CD collection. I know, Who can name the most obscure record they own??? Or maybe just the most laughable, something like Bros or Megadeth!! And no, I don't own anything by either of those artists, honest... Or name your top Christmas tune, seem as though we're coming up to the season of goodwill... Dreaming about 'Judy...' mugs, Chris. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Mon Dec 1 19:21:33 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 20:21:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Let's dream about it (was...*some questions*) Message-ID: <22213334321454@secrel.com.br> you wrote: >Is "T" going to be rereleased? I hope/pray so. I'd like to know WHY NOT ? well...."Let's make lots of money" I will buy 2 or 3 copies :o) Is *T* going to chart ? well..i buy in a London Shop via mail order... It will help them to crash into ... top 20 ? Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 1 23:25:43 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Sven-Olaf Kerouac) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 23:25:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I'm dreaming... Message-ID: Ooh, it's snowing - I just stood outside for ages and now I'm cold but happy B&S content - erm, something about foxes, I suppose Love you all Rob xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Mon Dec 1 22:57:23 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Mon, 01 Dec 1997 22:57:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: blah blah In-Reply-To: <10A5BE10344@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971201225723.0068fd54@mail.u-net.com> At 10:52 AM 12/1/97 +0000, Dr C.B.Stride wrote: >A bit different from your average indie night - where >else could you hear Helen Love, Half Man Half Biscuit, The Field >Mice, Dead Kennedys and Belle and Sebastian played in sequence !!?? I'd much rather hear them played out of sequence, it'd be more fun. JJ x ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Dec 2 02:05:05 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 21:05:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: obscure albums In-Reply-To: <11705C25E26@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: ah...i think the most embarassing album i'll admit to having is something by ratt...perhaps out of the cellar? actually, i have it on tape, unless one of my siblings threw it out. obscure...does anyone else still have the erasure release called crackers international? not really obscure, but amusing 'cause it's one of the first tapes i bought for myself as a kid. love, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 09:42:21 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:42:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: nik cohn Message-ID: <01bcff06$962783f0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> How about, "Elvis was a star to most, but he never meant shit to me"! Chuck D Funny you should say this, I posted this quote a few months ago in relation to "A Century of Elvis" Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 09:46:36 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:46:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: obscure albums Message-ID: <01bcff07$2df29da0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >ah...i think the most embarassing album i'll admit to having is something >by ratt...perhaps out of the cellar? actually, i have it on tape, unless >one of my siblings threw it out. obscure...does anyone else still have >the erasure release called crackers international? not really obscure, >but amusing 'cause it's one of the first tapes i bought for myself as a >kid. > >love, >laurel Remember this, got to number 3 in 1989, main track being "Stop!" - Oh Christ, I'm still in Engine room pop quiz mode... Stop. Didn't have it I'm afraid. Had some Yazoo singles though, does that count? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gar at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 10:30:35 1997 From: gar at xxx.uk (Gordon A Rogers) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:30:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: obscure records Message-ID: <199712021030.KAA04219@raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk> Not really obscure more like embarrasing (and christmassy) - "Keeping the Dream Alive" by Freiheit (top German soft rock). On a more obscure front - "Sitting Pretty" by the Pastels (With a beard scribbled on Stephen Pastel, apparently, drawn by the man himself) Please forgive my Freiheit faux pas - I think I was only nine years old. Remaining on the obscure tip does anyone remember a band called Mr Rays Wig World they were terrible. - Gordon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Matilda.Moore at xxx.com Tue Dec 2 10:47:55 1997 From: Matilda.Moore at xxx.com (Matilda Moore) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:47:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: SPIRITURLIZED NORWICH/I WAS THERE!!! Message-ID: To the person talking about the Spiriturlized gig in Norwich the other month I was also there with my friend Ellie. Wasn't it AMAZING!!!!!!!!!!!! It was one f the best gigs I have been to all year. Please get in touch with my privatly on Matilda.Moore at btinternet.com BYe Tilly XXXXXXXXX p.s. Do you live in Norwich???? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Matilda.Moore at xxx.com Tue Dec 2 10:47:51 1997 From: Matilda.Moore at xxx.com (Matilda Moore) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 10:47:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: SPIRITURLIZED NORWICH UEA/I WAS THERE!!! Message-ID: To The person who who posted a message saying they had seen Spiriturlized at UEA the other month I was also there with my friend Ellie. It the AMAZING!!!!! one of the best gigs I've ever been to. Jason looked LOVELY!!!!! Do you live in Norwich????? Please get in touch with me privatly on Matilda.Moore at btinternet.com Bye Tilly XXXXXXXXXX ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 972286231 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 11:35:23 1997 From: 972286231 at xxx.uk (MR NICK SANT) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 11:35:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: record collector... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: "Chris Worth" > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:20:45 +0000 > Subject: Sinister: record collector... > Reply-to: "Chris Worth" > record collector 147? > i take it that's the december issue? > i spent all friday reading, ingesting and digesting every advert / > set sale / auction in there and only recall coming across Tigermilk > once, and that was in a record shop's 'wanted' ad, i'm sure. > as i remember, although this may be wrong, they were offering £65 for > a mint condition copy. > i'm afraid i don't recall coming across a copy for sale, although > again i am probably very very wrong. > > "rock 'n' roll is the closest thing to hell" > Discuss. I used to buy Record Collector religiously (in the sense of not missing an issue, not as in wearing a silly hat and only buying it on Sundays. The shops were never open.) and i once saw Tigermilk for £30. This was before i'd heard any B&S though, i only remember it because one of my friends was bleating about them. If only i'd listened to her sooner. Don't it just make you sick. Take Care, Love & Rage, Nick. (972286231 at 97.lincoln.ac.uk) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Tue Dec 2 11:39:39 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 11:39:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what sandwiches? References: Message-ID: <3483F37B.2A55@virgin.net> Laurel Girvan wrote: > erm...b&s content?...do you suppose they like marmite? well, unlike some british peoples, Stuart & Isobel are more than happy to taste the Australian version of Marmite, Vegemite which is infinitely superior! cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From seu05 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 12:12:01 1997 From: seu05 at xxx.uk (Alexander Romanelli) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:12:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: driving to Manc gigs?? Message-ID: Anyone out there driving up the M1 past junction 14 to get to the Manchester gigs? Anyone want to give me a lift? And maybe a compadre of mine too? Didn't think so. Oh well. Did I read on one of the websites that they're touring in the new year? Or was that a dream I had? (Had a lovely dream last night, I imagined a pub where stella only cost 1.20) Oh, is 'Modern Rock Song' the songs full title? And does someone have a date for the Radcliffe sesh its on? How about the Lamarr sesh B&S did? Hi all those I met at the Oxford gig (S-hope you enjoyed Brass Eye) Alex seu05 at central.sussex.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Dec 2 12:16:06 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 12:16:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: sinister: I've got the rockin' pneumonia In-Reply-To: <11705C25E26@pebley.shef.ac.uk> References: <11705C25E26@pebley.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3483f5d1.10451464@email.mcmail.com> Hello It's gone all cold, and I'm getting psyched up for the journey to Glasgow tonight. Taking Aggi, my Greek friend to Scotland, she's never been and I promised I'd take her (she did ask if we could go to the Shetlands - I said no. By the way, Dina, one day, I'll take you to the Butt of Lewis). The fact that (even a slimmed down version of) the Sebs are playing is an added bonus. Saw The Strap last night. Started slow, got great, Aidan's got a beard, can never see anything at the Roadhouse, unless you stand on a barstool and I'm scared of heights. We laughed at the stoned wankers beside us who were chicken-dancing to 'Lust for Life' at the end, and nearly spoiled my evening by being 'an unruly mob', and singing 'Don't you want me?' in the quiet bits. Apparently B&S got the idea for playing at the Town Hall, cos Stuart and Stevie were bored one night and drove to Manchester, went past the Town Hall at 3 a.m. and said 'what a brilliant building, we've got to play there'. Any group that chooses venues on the basis of architecture is OK by me. On Mon, 1 Dec 1997 22:51:53 +0000, Chris wrote: >Or maybe just the most laughable, something like Bros or Megadeth!! 'Islands in the stream' by Kenny and Dolly. But I will defend that to the death if asked. 'Netty's Girl' by the Beastie Boys is laughable as in 'funny'. My friend Anna gave me a record called 'Jokkmokk Rock' made by some Swedish R n'B artist about the most Northerly town I've ever been to and it's fucking atrocious (but absolutely loveable, naturally). Any Swedish correspondants know that one? She also gave me 'Foolish Beat' by Debbie Gibson, I think that's the one that crops up in 'Welcome to the Dollhouse'. Strange girl, but I love her. >Or name your top Christmas tune, seem as though we're coming up to >the season of goodwill... 'Frosty the snowman' of course. Unless you can't 'I don't love anyone' (not even Christmas). Someone else will say 'Cry at Christmas' by Denim, so I won't. Andrew Dean wrote: >anyway, back to the marmite... when i was over visiting my >ex-pat friend in america i asked a couple of his friends if >there was anything that i could take him and they both said >marmite. it's good stuff, wholesome vegetarian food, bit too >much salt to be actively good for you but nice and tangy. >good on toast too. good on cheese on toast as well. nice and >black with it. um, this is making me hungry. and i only have >vegemite at home too (similar thing but australian and not >as good, you can tell just by looking at the shape of the >pot...). wah! 'It's the growing up spread'. I'm 5 foot 5 and I'm suing. Hey it's lunchtime Love Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Tue Dec 2 12:33:51 1997 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:33:51 GMT Subject: Sinister: what sandwiches? Bugger all BSC In-Reply-To: <3483F37B.2A55@virgin.net> Message-ID: <54F3F05A8D@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Katrina wrote > well, unlike some british peoples, Stuart & Isobel are more than happy > to taste the Australian version of Marmite, Vegemite which is infinitely > superior. I wonder, does Katrina ever say "Fair Dinkum"? And did anybody else spend their schoolyears referring to constipation as "Doug Willis bladder"? Joseph xxx "It takes more than that to stop a bull-moose" Theodore Roosevelt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 13:43:39 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 13:43:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sinister: I've got the rockin' pneumonia In-Reply-To: <3483f5d1.10451464@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: > Apparently B&S got the idea for playing at the Town Hall, cos Stuart > and Stevie were bored one night and drove to Manchester, went past the > Town Hall at 3 a.m. and said 'what a brilliant building, we've got to > play there'. Any group that chooses venues on the basis of > architecture is OK by me. Just how bored do you have to be to drive from Glasgow to Manchester at 3 in the morning? Isn't the town hall the one which has a huge inflatable Father Christmas tied to the tower at Christmas time? In which case, it's time to start plotting how to replace it with something more suitable (like, say, a fox (if it's snowing), or a lifesize model of the Velvet Underground. Or a lemur.). Think of the publicity for the next EP... > > >Or maybe just the most laughable, something like Bros or Megadeth!! > Well my first ever album was "Kylie". The one with "I should be so lucky" on it. I hereby renounce any claims to be taken seriously ever again. Is anyone prepared to admit to owning "Barbie Girl"? > >Or name your top Christmas tune, seem as though we're coming up to > >the season of goodwill... > "Fairytale of New York" - an alltime classic. Closely followed by "Stop The Cavalry". And definitely not "Mr Blobby". > > >anyway, back to the marmite... when i was over visiting my > >ex-pat friend in america i asked a couple of his friends if > >there was anything that i could take him and they both said > >marmite. it's good stuff, wholesome vegetarian food, bit too > >much salt to be actively good for you but nice and tangy. Just a shame it tastes foul. > 'It's the growing up spread'. I'm 5 foot 5 and I'm suing. > Well I don't eat the stuff and I'm 6 foot 6 :-) Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Tue Dec 2 14:29:31 1997 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 14:29:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: obscure, dodgy and downright shite... Message-ID: <01BCFF2E.B96F7840@manray.impressions-gallery.com> on the dodgy record front... the first record I ever bought was 'Japanese boy' by annika (for my mum, bless...) closely followed by Spurs fa cup squad feat.chas 'n' dave with 'ossie's on his way to wembley'... my girlfriend reckons the first record she ever bought was a jam 7 inch, but I think she's showing off As for obscure, I once saw The Bardots supporting someone at the Harlow square, and was so impressed I went up to the lead singer and bought their 'Sad Anne' ep. He looked very chuffed, and then rather embarrased... I've also got lots of rare jazz/funk/soul from my dodgy days as a glasgow dj, including an album called 'poetry in the cellar' featuring lawrence ferlinghetti reciting poetry to cheesy jazz background music. nice. I also had 'snot rap' by kenny everett, but best say nothing about that. later all, mattxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Tue Dec 2 16:01:59 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:01:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Latest issue of 'Select' Message-ID: Apologies if this has already been mentioned on the list, but HW's mail server caused me to get chucked off here yesterday! There are two mentions of B&S in the latest issue of Select: 1) 3,6,9 Seconds of Light is at number 10 in the Select writers' Top 30 Singles of 1997 2) In a section where people are asked what Oasis should do next, Colin Greenwood from Radiohead says "I'd like to see a Oasis/Belle & Sebastian collaboration. Oasis' sensitivity mixing with belle and Sebastian's full ahead rock. I'm sure it'd work beautifully." Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Orqo: n. The small bar that turns an 'O' into a 'Q' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From muellerj at xxx.edu Tue Dec 2 16:07:59 1997 From: muellerj at xxx.edu (Telepathic Traffic) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 09:07:59 -0700 (MST) Subject: Sinister: the humor, the irony...and its not even a movie In-Reply-To: <01BCFF2E.B96F7840@manray.impressions-gallery.com> Message-ID: I found a copy of Tigermilk at used record store in a major US city for the low low low prices of $8.99 go figure... jm *&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& & another piece of drama mind: * *&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& "peanut butter toast and american bandstand teach me how to cook teach me how to dance" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Tue Dec 2 16:15:29 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 16:15:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Suzannah! Message-ID: <34843421.179@virgin.net> Hello all, Suzannah (sorry if i've spelt it wrong, but ...), if you get this this evening, Mark Gardener is playing the Garage as part of the Shifty Disco night thingy. He'll be onstage at 10pm, Mark & I are going down, so maybe if you get this in time, i'll see you there! Sorry to everyone else for no B&S content ... Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Dec 2 21:57:34 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 97 13:57:34 PST Subject: Sinister: re: joke Message-ID: here's one i heard on conan o'brien the other day. Q: hey, did you hear posh spice is leaving the group? A: yeah, she says it's about time she went out and sucked on her own. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 16:44:34 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:44:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: pop and non-pop; Coronation Street; Xmas songs (lon g-ish, no real B&S) Message-ID: <199712021648.QAA23496@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Duke: >A strange, but strangely natural concept :-) Pop is strange, and it is strangely natural. That's one of the things which enables pop to open up possibilities and sensibilities. Just because Vic Godard was strangely natural, and indeed naturally strange, did not mean he couldn't reinvent himself at the drop of a titfer, didn't mean he was tied down to some dull authenticity. The craphats in the Oasis/OCS campaign for real rock axis never seemed to realise that the essence of pop is always going to be more of: 'oh, look at this, it's exciting...', than 'oh, look at me, I've always been into (insert worthy vintage band name here)...' >A new way to do >things. Which was essentially Pop Yeah! And a new way to see and to believe and after that new way, another, if necessary. >others may agree >on 'Stairway to Heaven' and Deep Purple. Yes, >even. And to those people, i argue that those >moments are Pop, even though they will prefer to >call them Rock (and that is their prerogative), But duke, don't be afraid of getting back to basics, what's wrong and right. MY pop can and will never include Stairway to bleedin' Heaven or Smoke on the Water. Let those who want to incorpaorate those moments find their own words for their macho, thoughtless unchallenging guff. Let them have rock, or whatever, if it makes them feel more manly. Because the joy of the self-making that pop allows is the ability to place yourself _against_ as well as (more than?) _for_. >So: rock'n'roll the closest thing to heaven? NO >NO NO. But Pop as Personal Religion? Um, yeah, >sure, why not... Fantastic. And I'm a fundamentalist...."We Oppose All Rock and Roll". >Pop because Pop is obsessive, and is >obsessively about the moment of transendence... >it's always about reaching (back) to That Moment /That Feeling. Alright. And (if you'll allow me a bit of theory for a moment) how about pop as jouissance (dangerous moment of painful pleasure where ones very self is up for grabs) and rock as plaisir (undangerous pleasure of having your assumptions and predispositions confirmed)? S.Reynolds tried to use this set of ideas in justifying his love for the Young Gods/Swans/whoever but didn't seem to recognise that the emotional reaction to a noise/melody/lyric can be more potent than the more physical reaction to the sounds he was supporting. Enough of such tomfoolery. Stuart: >What I meant by populist was people writing (and releasing) songs purely >because they know that it will sell...Take That...it worked for the Spice Girls But your comparison was with groups like Radiohead. I think there's little more than a difference in marketing really. Radiohead are pushed as this 4-real bunch of serious artists because the market they're aimed at demands that. The Spice Girls/TT/Boyzone/etc audience don't care too much (it seems to me) and are out for what they enjoy, pure and simple. Which is great, in its own way. Rodney: >Anti-pop is Celine Dion, Bush, Ocean Colour Scene, Kula Shaker, Elton John, >bloody Perfect Day. Pop is All Saints, pop is Aqua, pop is Belle & Sebastian.Where's the problem in that...? No problem whatsoever. Couldn't have put it better. Matt, >There was an excellent reggae version of the coronation st theme tune, but I can't remember who it was by... Izzy Royal. Not so convinced about the quality myself, but there y'go... Someone else: > >Or name your top Christmas tune, seem as though we're coming up to > >the season of goodwill... 'Things Fall Apart' by Christina, which is not only my favourite Xmas record, but also my favourite disc on the mighty Ze imprint. Over a thumping disco beat Christina relays a sad chain of events which might even do justice to Belle and Seb's more melancholy moments: "there wasn't any snow, but there was rain he licked me like a candy cane and then one day he said 'I can't stand in your way, it's wrong' 'Way of what?' I asked, but he was gone. Things fall apart, but they never leave your heart..." After that, it has to be 'Archie The Red Nosed Reindeer', which is one of Tapper Zukie's less brilliant moments, but a goodie all the same. Still endeavouring to clean up my mail, and wet from trying to drown myself in the Clyde. there were too many Rangers fans doing the same thing on Sunday night... 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There's lots of other mailing lists around... and there's 380 people listening to every word we breathe so... well you know. Oh and please don't take this as a direct criticism of anyone - it's just um.. a gentle nudge. P mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 17:17:48 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 17:17:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: pop and non-pop; Coronation Street; Xmas songs (lon g-ish, no real B&S) Message-ID: <01bcff46$362e5150$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> But duke, don't be afraid of getting back to basics, what's wrong and right. MY pop can and will never include Stairway to bleedin' Heaven or Smoke on the Water. Let those who want to incorpaorate those moments find their own words for their macho, thoughtless unchallenging guff. Let them have rock, or whatever, if it makes them feel more manly. Because the joy of the self-making that pop allows is the ability to place yourself _against_ as well as (more than?) _for_. ---------------------- Stairway to Heaven and Smoke on the Water do not make me feel more *manly*, I just like them. I don't have a problem with this, indeed however I have a tendency not to like macho kinds of music, perhaps just have a different definition. I figure I'm just going to have a hard time bottling up all the types of music I like and calling it something - it's just not going to happen. Actually, that above stuff its just total toss, it's basically down to you don't like it and figure that you're right and others are wrong. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From philippe.besson at xxx.fr Tue Dec 2 18:25:11 1997 From: philippe.besson at xxx.fr (Phil) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 19:25:11 +0100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199712021821.TAA02273@etudiant.univ-lr.fr> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul_Clarke at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 18:05:55 1997 From: Paul_Clarke at xxx.uk (Paul_Clarke at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 18:05:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Vote vote vote Message-ID: <0002BB25.1736@ipc.co.uk> You didn't hear it from me, but B&S are not in the top ten "Best Band"s in the NME awards so far, neither are they in the top ten "Best New Band"s either, so get voting... you can vote online at www.nme.com/awards/vote.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From muellerj at xxx.edu Tue Dec 2 19:15:53 1997 From: muellerj at xxx.edu (Telepathic Traffic) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 12:15:53 -0700 (MST) Subject: Sinister: Vote vote vote In-Reply-To: <0002BB25.1736@ipc.co.uk> Message-ID: They're on my Top Ten in the CMJ end-of-the-year round-up and I know someone else also has them on their Top Ten I'll be interesting to see how many of the MD's and label people list it...guess I'll have to wait till late Dec. when the mag is out. jm *&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& & another piece of drama mind: * *&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& "peanut butter toast and american bandstand teach me how to cook teach me how to dance" On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 Paul_Clarke at ipc.co.uk wrote: > You didn't hear it from me, but B&S are not in the top ten "Best Band"s in > the NME awards so far, neither are they in the top ten "Best New Band"s > either, so get voting... you can vote online at > www.nme.com/awards/vote.html > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Tue Dec 2 19:47:56 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 97 19:47:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: Sighting of Patch!!!! Message-ID: <971202194756.n0006264.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Yes! Patch, the dog on wheels from, urrrr, DOG ON WHEELS, is missing no more and can now be seen gracing the front cover of the new single from the 'dancey' band ( I say that cos I don't really know if its house/techno/garage whatever) Animals on Wheels . Anyway its on on Bovinyl records, I THINK its called Baits bite, haven't the faintest what its like but the cover caught my eye. He doesn't look too well though. Also, and this is rather embarassing to have to admit, but hey! I'm the only one who sees this right? I was shoppping in Sainsburys and seeing as its SUCH a cold winters day an' all I decided to buy some oats to make porridge with. Well, when I got to the checkout and the box of Scotts Porridge oats went through , I picked it up, saw the DRAWING of the man on the front in a kilt throwing a shotput and actually thought Phwwoaarrr!! Anyway, you must excuse me as I'm off to listen to a Century of Elvis.............. susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 20:12:10 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 20:12:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Vote vote vote In-Reply-To: <0002BB25.1736@ipc.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 Paul_Clarke at ipc.co.uk wrote: > You didn't hear it from me, but B&S are not in the top ten "Best Band"s in > the NME awards so far, neither are they in the top ten "Best New Band"s > either, so get voting... you can vote online at > www.nme.com/awards/vote.html > Well B&S are one of the 10 shortlisted bands for "best session". Apparently you've got to phone a certain number to vote - Does anyone out there know the number? A couple of hundred votes from us lot could make a fair bit of difference. Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Dec 2 20:12:55 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 15:12:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: licking railings In-Reply-To: <199712021821.TAA02273@etudiant.univ-lr.fr> Message-ID: does anybody really lick railings? does it matter? yes kids, i'm speaking of lazy line painter jane. this list may be experiencing a b&s vacuum, but i've got a surfeit! despite still being uncertain of the location of my iyfs, i have a copy of tigermilk on the way in the mail (thanks bunches to pam). also, when i was privileged to attend b&s at cmj, they passed out disks after the show. i didn't really look at mine at the time, not knowing anything about the band, i just put it with all the other random cd's i acquired that week. i accidentally left it out east and my roommate brought it back this morning. imagine my delight to find myself the proud owner of lazy line painter jane. yippeeeeeeeee!!!!!!! i saw the posting on the web site about b&s being on pbs december 27. will that also be airing in the states? pbs as in the channel that used to show sesame street and 321 contact with the bloodhound gang? now if i could only have a boy... laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 21:22:49 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 21:22:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: pop and non-pop Message-ID: <199712022124.VAA26238@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> >Stairway to Heaven and Smoke on the Water do not make me feel more *manly*, >I just like them. That's cool. I think they're vile and that's cool too. >I figure I'm just going to have a hard time bottling up all the >types of music I like and calling it something - it's just not going to >happen. Mmmm, it's impossible. I'm not really trying to find a word for a particular kind of music, or particular kinds of music, I'm talking about a word for a particular kind of feeling. Not just a kind of happy/sad/excited/calmed/whatever, but that feeling when something really sends you, y'know. >Actually, that above stuff its just total toss, it's basically down to >you don't like it and figure that you're right and others are wrong. I don't think it's toal toss (but then you do and you're right and I'm wrong, prob'ly...;-)). I'm sorry if it irritated you. Not even I am dumb enough to believe that there are objective rights and objective wrongs when it comes to music. The point I was trying to make (and clearly I should do it in a less ham-fisted way next time) was that great pop fun is to be had by taking up (relatively) arbitrary positions and holding on to them for dear life, until you get bored. This is pop, and it's not doing anybody any harm to hold a few extreme opinions on the merits of the likes of Deep Purple. I remember the excitement I felt the first time I heard Subway Sect's 'A Different Story', heard him sing 'We Oppose All Rock And Roll'. the power of saying these things is part of the great power of pop. It was important to me that I loved McCarthy and hated the March Violets (or whoever) in 1986. There's a great tradition of drawing arbitrary lines: Wyndham Lewis's Blast/Bless way back; Tom Vague did the same thing. And the famous Westwood/Rhodes T-shirt. "One day you're gonna wake up and know which side of the bed you're on". Sometimes it's fun. And I don't think I'm too off-beam in saying there's a lot of pop-good in getting up folks' noses from time to time. It's not as though I'm advocating violence or anything, or that I advocate the taking of such extreme positions outside POP! (the feeling). See, pop allows that creation of self.... And let the person who has never called a band or a record shite stand up and take the rosette for best liberal of the year. Ten years ago I would have spat 'hippy' at the endof that sentence. I shan't today. See, I have grown up a bit. Cheerio, Tim begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(BD5`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0 at 36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02``0`>````4D4Z(%-I M;FES=&5R.B!P;W`@86YD(&YO;BUP;W``)0H!"8`!`"$````X.#$Q.#4Q030U M-D)$,3$Q0C1"0C`P03!#.31"1C$&``$!D&ER=V%Y('1`;R!(96%V"?`@C0!P9`8`!&!K92`"(&48\&@: M(%=A%_`%P&1U&1!N%^`@`,`:$0>`()YF">`#(`1@%``@*@.!\&QY*BP*H at J! 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For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Tue Dec 2 21:11:28 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 21:11:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: obscure albums In-Reply-To: <01bcff07$2df29da0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971202211128.00698984@mail.u-net.com> At 09:46 AM 12/2/97 -0000, Keith Watson wrote: >Remember this, got to number 3 in 1989, main track being "Stop!" - Oh >Christ, I'm still in Engine room pop quiz mode... Stop. Didn't have it I'm >afraid. Had some Yazoo singles though, does that count? I've got the Erasure 20 Greatest Hits CD and it is fine. My favourite songs are Breath Of Life and Star and Stop!. So there! oh, and Am I Right. JJ x ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From verity.clarkson at xxx.uk Tue Dec 2 22:46:52 1997 From: verity.clarkson at xxx.uk (*La Grande V*) Date: Tue, 2 Dec 1997 22:46:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: b & s on the telephone In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > > You didn't hear it from me, but B&S are not in the top ten "Best Band"s in > > the NME awards so far, neither are they in the top ten "Best New Band"s > > either, so get voting... you can vote online at > > www.nme.com/awards/vote.html > > > Well B&S are one of the 10 shortlisted bands for "best session". > Apparently you've got to phone a certain number to vote - Does anyone out > there know the number? A couple of hundred votes from us lot could make a > fair bit of difference. > > Stuart G as far as i can tell from the scrawl on the history notes i was making whilst the radio was on, the phone no. to vote for the best session is: 0881 110 100 i hope this is useful....! ;) obscure records stuff: does anyone out there know anything about a band called brick supply who (i think) did the original version of "not so manic now"? i have one of their eps featuring a rather jaunty little tune about a deranged killer (no, honestly, it's ace!).. marmite verdict: a superior yeast product. not only vegetarian, but a particularly attractive shade of brown. yum. random b & s moment: saw a lonely fox pause under the street lamps on holywell street for a split second at 2am on monday morning. nearly melted with delight... love and iced gems, Verity xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bohobird1 at xxx.com Tue Dec 2 23:19:35 1997 From: bohobird1 at xxx.com (DALE COOPER) Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1997 15:19:35 PST Subject: Sinister: hihi Message-ID: <19971202231936.25346.qmail@hotmail.com> just joined the list and thought i would say hi! anyone else from canada on here- toronto? let me know boho ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 01:00:58 1997 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 01:00:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: POP! Message-ID: <199712022348.XAA26330@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Pop to me is the feeling I got, having previously critiscised them, when hearing "Mansun's only Love Song" for the first time. B&S content?!? errrmmm.......oh yeah....I bought Q today and "If you're feeling Sinister" was in the best albums of the year bit. Happy! Someone is making me a "Tigermilk" tape and I haven't had to ask anyone from the list. I have a friend from teletext who's getting me a copy. To be bloody honest though, I've been on this list for a couple of days now and there 'aint been that much B&S content really...... Oh well bye Northy from the paw of the pink panther or just Northy being escapist? _________________________________________________ ``A man is as old as the women he feels.'' - Groucho Marx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mahmed at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 09:10:29 1997 From: mahmed at xxx.uk (mahmed at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 09:10:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: POP! References: <199712022348.XAA26330@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34852205.713B@meto.gov.uk> Richard North wrote: > > errrmmm.......oh yeah....I bought Q today and "If you're feeling > Sinister" was in the best albums of the year bit. > > How can this be? IYFS was released in Nov' 96. I know this is depressing, but B&S should not appear in "best albums of '97" in any British magazines and newspapers. I've worried about this (though not enough to have sleepless nights), that a great album will be ignored in an annual review by music journalists. IFYS came out too late in 1996 for most people to have heard of it and definitely too late to make an impression on the music press and end up in the polls. I reckon it was only in the new year that the journalists will have heard their promo copies and take note. They would then have a whole year to enjoy and write about it positively, which they did. I'm sure many magazines would like to have IYFS in the top 10 lps of 1997, but they cannot. I wouldn't be surprised if it is given a special mention or made an honorary album of 1997. Most journalists know that IYFS is too good to be ignored and deserves a wider audience. One thing for sure is that B&S will be mentioned in the "bands to watch in 1998". I always thought that it is bad move to release a new studio lp in the last 2 months of the year, as it will be overlooked in the Xmas deluge when the big hitters and the compilation albums fight it out for the grannie pound. Why was November chosen for the release of IYFS? Couldn't it have waited till the new year? At least next year's album should top the polls of 1998. Do not underestimate the power of end of year reviews. Portishead's "Dummy" was the top album of 1994 (or in the top 3) in all the magazines and newspapers. I remember reading letters in the MM criticising them for choosing someone the readers had never heard of. Of course, the press were vindicated when Portishead went ballistic in 1995. Mussadiq ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 09:13:58 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 09:13:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: remember sinister? Message-ID: <348522D5.AC4433E8@totalweb.co.uk> sometimes in the mixing pot of this list i forget that we're all here because of a shared love and because i've just been moved by a song again... ...i'd thought i'd remind you all why we're here. but to do so needs you co-operation. if you havn't listened to sinister this week, go and sit alone in front of the stereo and play the title track or maybe 'judy', it should be enough to make you smile, and if it is, come back and let us know why you smiled, why you love 'em and why it seems just so damn important. david trying to be as inspiring as i am occasionally inspired. -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Wed Dec 3 09:44:50 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 10:44:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Erasure Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971203094450.0066dd40@student.let.uva.nl> >I've got the Erasure 20 Greatest Hits CD and it is fine. My favourite songs >are Breath Of Life and Star and Stop!. So there! oh, and Am I Right. Hey, me too! And I'm not ashamed of it! Although I always got laughed at for liking Erasure :( My favourites are Give A Little Respect, Sometimes and Ship of Fools.... Do you guys out there class Erasure as bad taste then? To me they're _the_ definition of pop. Errr... B&S content. No, but I'm going to see Tindersticks next week! ______________________________________________ > >You can stay all day, if you want to > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From D.L.Cooper at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 10:44:26 1997 From: D.L.Cooper at xxx.uk (D.L.Cooper at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 10:44:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Auf wiedersehen, b&s Message-ID: <3485380A.2227@smtphostu.dur.ac.uk> unsubscribe ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 09:38:46 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:38:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: remember sinister? Message-ID: <01bcffcf$40a7c060$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Went to the thirteenth note last night with Tag+friend. Was very good apart from the first three bands, Belle and Sebastian played a short but sweet covers set, songs by Curtis Mayfield (Stevie sang), Orange Juice (Isobel sang), Beck (Richard sang), can't remember the name of the fourth one, Tag knows, I could only recognise the tune (Sung by Stuart and Stevie) and Jesus and Mary Chain sung by Sarah and Chris. Was very nice indeed, enjoyable on the whole and my car didn't break down on the way back to Edinburgh. to recap The Starlets : boring, but nonetheless young, so have an excuse Eugenius : Tedious The Pastels : Woeful (Tag enjoyed it, so did my mate Mark, but the crowd were essentially bored. There was even a heckler!) Belle and Sebastian : Good, but covers, so hard to say really - was enjoyable Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 11:38:55 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:38:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Road trip to Manchester. Message-ID: <2460E040C3@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> I'm heading down to Manchester from Edinburgh on the 27th, returning on the 28th. (with Charlie, star of my ink polariod entry.) Would anyone like a lift? Could anyone offer me a floor in Manchester? Where have all the good times gone? lol chris xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 12:09:18 1997 From: S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk (Stuart Maclean) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 97 12:09:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: Manchester gigs Message-ID: <28641.9712031209@dsse.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Talk about a "me too" thing, but I'm also (hopefully, if the tix come) off to Manchester for both gigs (from Southampton, ah the dedication of the man), so any floor space or cheap b+b recommendations appreciated. Ha, did anyone else phone in their "pseudo Festive Fifty" 3 tracks last night only to be informed that the mailbox was full ;-)). B+S in my top three natch, Steymour Stein of course. Hydroplane + Lullaby others (not that anyone cares!) Just my $0.02 -- Stuart ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sgadd33 at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 13:43:33 1997 From: sgadd33 at xxx.com (S Gadd) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:43:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: <01bcfff1$86dd9100$878577c2@HostName.u-net.com> Hi Steve Gadd here, Thanks to David & Katrina for resonding so promptly to my plea for a copy of 'Tigermilk'. So here I am asking 'Please, can anyone sort me out with a copy'. Actually it's not just for me..... ....I was asked recently by a DJ friend (who is bonkers about B & S) who despite being a sales rep.for Pinnacle records cannot lay hands upon the Grail like item in any format. So if anyone could oblige you'd make an 'old' DJ extremely happy. Cool site by the way., 'slicker than snot'. Cheers in advance, Ste G. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From gar at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 14:39:12 1997 From: gar at xxx.uk (Gordon A Rogers) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:39:12 GMT Subject: Sinister: Poor Taste Message-ID: <199712031439.OAA29926@hawk.csd.abdn.ac.uk> Just found out that the part Michael Hutchence sings in Perfect Day is "You just keep me hanging on". Spooky. b&s content ... erm they did some cover versions in Glasgow and Perfect Day is obviously a cover version. Sorry Gordon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Dec 3 14:41:40 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:41:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Vote vote vote In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 2 Dec 1997, Stuart Gardiner wrote: > On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 Paul_Clarke at ipc.co.uk wrote: > > > You didn't hear it from me, but B&S are not in the top ten "Best Band"s in > > the NME awards so far, neither are they in the top ten "Best New Band"s > > either, so get voting... you can vote online at > > www.nme.com/awards/vote.html > > > Well B&S are one of the 10 shortlisted bands for "best session". > Apparently you've got to phone a certain number to vote - Does anyone out > there know the number? A couple of hundred votes from us lot could make a > fair bit of difference. ... to NME's coffers. Frankly, I'm not willing to spend 30p a minute voting, not even for B&S. Anyway, Radiohead are going to get best album of the year anyway, so why should we bother. Rod. (voted White Town's Your Woman as single of the year) Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | WORK HARDER! | Your taxes are paying for my net connection. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Dec 3 14:43:15 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:43:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: POP! In-Reply-To: <199712022348.XAA26330@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Richard North wrote: > errrmmm.......oh yeah....I bought Q today and "If you're feeling > Sinister" was in the best albums of the year bit. I thought it came out last year? I bought it in January. > Happy! Someone is making me a "Tigermilk" tape and I haven't had to > ask anyone from the list. I have a friend from teletext who's > getting me a copy. Are you a Voidster then? > To be bloody honest though, I've been on this list for a couple of > days now and there 'aint been that much B&S content really...... Off-topicness is the future, my friend. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Finally, an erection from actual physical contact." | -- Brian Krakow, My So-Called Life ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mackay.mackay at xxx.net Wed Dec 3 14:47:09 1997 From: mackay.mackay at xxx.net (mackay.mackay) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 14:47:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: booooooo Message-ID: <348570EC.2061@virgin.net> boooooo from simon aka spiderboy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Wed Dec 3 15:50:33 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:50:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Poor Taste/Slow Grafitti/Tigermilk In-Reply-To: <199712031439.OAA29926@hawk.csd.abdn.ac.uk> Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2020 bytes Desc: not available URL: From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 16:13:35 1997 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:13:35 GMT Subject: Sinister: Okay, I'm ready..... Message-ID: <199712031613.QAA22930@brookes.ac.uk> I have now moved house, you will be pleased to hear, so if anyone in the UK (sorry all you foreigners !!) wants a copy of Tigermilk, then mail me and I'll see what I can do. Okay then, don't all rush at once.....Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 15:27:09 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 15:27:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: POP! Message-ID: <01bcffff$eba6c5d0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Richard North wrote: > >> errrmmm.......oh yeah....I bought Q today and "If you're feeling >> Sinister" was in the best albums of the year bit. > >I thought it came out last year? I bought it in January. Last November. Primal Scream won Mercury LP of the year 1992, when half of it was released 2 years prior. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 16:37:59 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:37:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester support bands In-Reply-To: <199712031613.QAA22930@brookes.ac.uk> Message-ID: In today's Melody Maker, it says that B&S are going to be supported by Arab Strap at the Saturday show in Manchester. Katrina? Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bohobird1 at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 16:50:25 1997 From: bohobird1 at xxx.com (DALE COOPER) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 08:50:25 PST Subject: Sinister: GINGER FRIDAYS IN TORONTO!! Message-ID: <19971203165027.10686.qmail@hotmail.com> GINGER IS THIS FRIDAY! EVERYONE, BE PREPARED FOR MORE UK-INDIE WITH A SOUPY TWIST. HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE. other ginger dates include: december 19th, january 2nd, 16th and 30th. Open letter to the cities sweetest parvenu, Welcome to ginger...or welcome back. This letter is an introduction to a Three-dimensional joy-ride. So it seems fitting to invite you to relax, loosen your belt and perhaps pour yourself another aqua vitae. Long has Toronto suffered the sticky (often mundane) battle of the nightclub. Commercial castles of music are popping up everywhere but beyond the architectural obtuseness, top forty dance beats and Meat-packaging atmosphere there is little marketability left in the budget for substance. Ginger is a new discretion invested in the passion for new UK indie, eclectic beats, sparkling orchestral pop and even some moog pulsations but still vibrating the resonance of the beau ideal past. This night also hopes to pass a little debauchery, shallow flash and designer sneers into the aesthetic of the night. Ginger is unapologetically a vainglorious evening. Some of the bands you may be titillated with include, David Devant and His Spirit Wife, My Life Story, Divine Comedy, Rialto, Travis, the Experimental Pop Band, Momus, Elcka, Lucky 15, Dubstar, Babybird, Olive, Orlando, the Weekenders, Mulu, Ether, Cola Boy, Belle & Sebestian,Peach, Corduory, Denim and favourites include Bowie, the Jam, the Stones,Pulp, Suede, the Smiths, Echo and the Bunnymen, the Verve, Spiritualized, sometimes Blur and many more. GINGER HAS HER NEXT APPEARANCE ON THIS FRIDAY DECEMBER 5th...1997 with more promotional videos direct from the UK and music you may never hear anywhere else... Ginger is Djed by Elvis Aristotle and Hosted by Lady Somerset. Mike Delaney (bohobird) also hosts and finances this extravagant night out. Darrell and Nora our appreciations also extend to their efforts. GINGER WILL BE AT THE BIG BOP THIS FRIDAY. BIG BOP IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF QUEEN AND BATHURST in Toronto. We have also managed to keep the drink prices lower than previous big bop events (ie. orange alert)! 19+/$4....because you know you want to. "Go back to the eras of the highest decorative art and you will find it a time when the workman had beautiful surroundings; for the best periods of the decorative arts have been the ages of costume, when men and women wore noble attire and walked in beauty that could pass at once into marble and stone to be the admiration of all succeeding ages." Oscar Wilde for more info contact bohobird1 at hotmail.com take my thoughts to the roundabout, cos me and them we like to get out ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 16:52:32 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:52:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Top 40-1997 Message-ID: <971203115231_-802203296@mrin86.mail.aol.com> TOP 40 in no particular order . . . Belle and Sebastian-the 3 EP�s Adriana Evans-s/t lp Broadcast-�Work and Nonwork� PushKings- s/t lp Arab Strap-�Hey Fever� ep Spiritualized-�Ladies and Gentlemen. . .� lp Suede-�Sci-Fi Lullabies� compilation Mogwai-�Young Team� lp "Torque"-No-U-Turn Comp. the Verve-�Urban Hymns� lp Bob Dylan-�Time Out of Mind� lp Sarah Cracknell-�LipSlide� lp Ed Rush-�What�s Up� 12� Jason Morphew-�Transparent� lp Roni Size Reprazent-�New Forms� Karelia-�Divorce at High Noon� lp Mono-�Life in Mono� 12� Margaret Leng Tan-�The Art of the Toy Piano� Missy �misdemeanor� Elliott-�Supa Dupa Fly� lp Tindersticks-�Curtains� lp Velocette-�Get Yourself Together� 7� Radiohead-�OK Computer� Carl Craig -�More Songs About Food and Revolutionary Art� Duffy-�I Love My Friends� Gorky�s Zygotic Mynci-�Barafundle� lp Lake Of Dracula-s/t lp Money Penny Project-�Easy Experiment� 12� Bitter Springs-�It�s Business� 7� Autumn Leaves-�Treats and Treasures� lp Filla Brazilla-�Luck Be A Wierdo Tonight� lp MJ12-�Lost & Found� 7� Oval-�Systemisch� Loki=�Vertigo� 12� Billy MacKenzie-�Beyond the Sun� lp Cat�s Miaow-�Song For Girls To Sing� compilation The Pastels-�The Hits Hurt� 7� Ninotchka-�I�ve Got Wing� 7� Stereolab & Nurse With Wound-�Simple Headphone Mind� 12� Mouse On Mars �Autoditaker� Primal Scream-�Vanishing Point� LIVE: Suede in NYC Belle and Sebastian in Edinburgh Belle and Sebastian in NYC Arab Strap in London Radiohead in Boston Delgados in NYC ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mk at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 16:39:20 1997 From: mk at xxx.uk (Matthew Kellie) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:39:20 -0000 Subject: FW: Sinister: Poor Taste Message-ID: <01BD000A.04C60080@mk> ---------- From: Gordon A Rogers[SMTP:gar at xxx.uk] Sent: 03 December 1997 14:39 To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: Poor Taste >Just found out that the part Michael Hutchence sings in Perfect Day is "You just keep me >hanging on". >Spooky. Michael Hutchence doesn't appear in the perfect day video, the person you are referring to is Evan Dando Sorry Gordon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mk at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 16:41:43 1997 From: mk at xxx.uk (Matthew Kellie) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 16:41:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Message-ID: <01BD000A.570BB560@mk> The Saturday manchester gig is now apparently sold out, but there are still tickets available for Sunday. Better hurry ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Wed Dec 3 17:13:20 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 17:13:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester support bands References: Message-ID: <34859330.105B@virgin.net> Stuart Gardiner wrote: > > In today's Melody Maker, it says that B&S are going to be supported by > Arab Strap at the Saturday show in Manchester. Katrina? > > Stuart G Yeah, it's true. Sorry guys, but we didn't know that when we did the mail-outs. The aftershow is also going to be on the Saturday night too (TAG .. please get in touch 'bout what your plans are so far ...). Hopefully we'll have some details re the meets soon. Andy, hows the list of persons going...? Speak to you all soon! Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 17:11:05 1997 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 12:11:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Led Zeppelin and other Rock Message-ID: <01BCFFE4.884E7200@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> I too once (in high school) fell in love with the music of the mighty 'zep. I enjoyed it at the time. Further, I would contend that their early music is very reputable even on a critical standpoint. Did you know that Kenny Pickett (from the Creation) was their roadie? Robert Plant attended a Divine Comedy show in New York and I didn't even recognize him (I was too busy acting like a fool in front of Harvey Williams). It (led zep) was a bit misogynist. But the band was influenced by a lot of misogynist music. Did you also know that Stuart M used to listen to a lot of Yes (probably less reputable than early Zep). Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 17:20:52 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 17:20:52 GMT Subject: Sinister: 13th Note In-Reply-To: <01bcffcf$40a7c060$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> References: <01bcffcf$40a7c060$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <348693f2.2291140@email.mcmail.com> On Wed, 3 Dec 1997 09:38:46 -0000, Keith wrote: >Went to the thirteenth note last night with Tag+friend. Was very good apart >from the first three bands, Belle and Sebastian played a short but sweet >covers set, songs by Curtis Mayfield (Stevie sang), damned if I can remember the title, but it was a stomper... >Orange Juice (Isobel sang), It was 'In a nutshell' >Beck (Richard sang), Didn't know it. He can't sing you know. >can't remember the name of the fourth one, Tag >knows, I could only recognise the tune (Sung by Stuart and Stevie) That was by those loveable baroque 60s popsters The Left Banke, 'I've got something on my mind'. >and Jesus and Mary Chain sung by Sarah and Chris. 'Some candy talking' >Was very nice indeed, enjoyable on the whole and my car didn't break >down on the way back to Edinburgh. Keith's flat is very cold and he has a flatmate with a flash American car, an old Rover and a motorbike. But we were eternally grateful for a roof over over our heads, thanks mate, you were the perfect gentleman (Aggi agrees). We did the tourist thing in 'the Athens of the North' this morning, and are now back in Manchester which is also cold. >to recap > > The Starlets : boring, but nonetheless young, so have an excuse No, that's no excuse > Eugenius : Tedious Yes. > The Pastels : Woeful (Tag enjoyed it, so did my mate Mark, but the crowd >were essentially bored. There was even a heckler!) Keith is wrong. They are the Kings. Who heckled? I'll fight them, I'm a bit tasty you know.... > Belle and Sebastian : Good, but covers, so hard to say really - was >enjoyable They pulled it off pretty well (so to speak), yeah - it could have been a bit longer, but 5 songs by B&S is worth 20 seconds of most everybody else. And was all for charidee. >Cheers, > Keith. > Keith, Aggi loves Edinburgh (and is cursing not bringing her tape recorder). Now she's demanding left banke tapes, and Ennio Morricone LPs. And says thanks for everything, and I second that emotion. That's all.... Love Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.Hay at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 16:07:56 1997 From: R.Hay at xxx.com (R.Hay at xxx.com) Date: 03 Dec 1997 16:07:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Poor Taste In-Reply-To: <199712031439.OAA29926ahawk.csd.abdn.ac.uk@MHS> Message-ID: <"H00004a104f3d9c5*/I=R/S=Hay/OU=OPENMAIL1/OU=UEFT444/O=SHELLEXPRO ABERDEEN/PRMD=SHELL/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/"@MHS> Em, Evan Dando actually, but why let the facts ruin a good story. B and S content? Well, I've been a lurker (on the list not in real life) for quite a while and when I joined I was confident that I wouldn't go begging for a copy of "Tigermilk". Partly because I adore "IYFS" to an unhealthy level and partly because they would surely re-issue it soon. However I'm beginning to feel impoverished without a copy and have every sign of BandS envy. So if any kind hearted soul could help, could they mail me privately. It's christmas after all. Ta Richard > Just found out that the part Michael Hutchence sings in Perfect Day is "You just > keep me hanging on". > > Spooky. > > b&s content ... erm they did some cover versions in Glasgow and Perfect Day is o > bviously a cover version. > > Sorry > > Gordon > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elzachar at xxx.no Wed Dec 3 17:47:55 1997 From: elzachar at xxx.no (elzachar at xxx.no) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:47:55 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: SINISTER: we were the ones being robbed.. Message-ID: <199712031747.SAA07386@online.no> Hi, to everyone who was at the quiz at John Snow last week. I was in the well named team Møkings Fiskebolle, and we lost. BUT at the tube on our way home we found out that we were cheated for 6 points...not that it really would have mattered, we were shite anyway..But to the ones there, I just wanted to let you know that we weren't that shite...! I didn't know that it was supposed to be a Sinister thing, so hello to all the people that I didn't get to si hi to! Elisabeth >From Norway, not Sweden...Hi Katrina! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Matilda.Moore at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 18:21:44 1997 From: Matilda.Moore at xxx.com (Matilda Moore) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:21:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: No Subject Message-ID: Unsubscribe sinister. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Wed Dec 3 18:43:39 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 13:43:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: re-release? In-Reply-To: <199712031747.SAA07386@online.no> Message-ID: in response to some queries about a possible re-release of tigermilk, i also heard those rumors but something on the web site said something to the effect that there was potential for a re-release but they just had too much new stuff. (now that's a nicely definite statement. still, who can turn down new stuff? well, the neighbors can make you. ;)) for the new addition who lamented the sketchy b&s content, i hope no one is too frustrated by the vagaries of the list. i really enjoy listening in on other kinds of things, like the pop/rock, the erasure confessions, book recommendations, etc. just a note, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Wed Dec 3 18:47:05 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 97 18:47:05 GMT Subject: Sinister: remember sinister? References: <348522D5.AC4433E8@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <971203184705.n0006298.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 03 Dec 97, David & Katrina wrote... >if you haven't listened to sinister this week, go and sit alone in front >of the stereo and play the title track or maybe 'judy', it should be >enough to make you smile, > >and if it is, come back and let us know why you smiled, why you love 'em >and why it seems just so damn important. > >david > because they send shivers not just up my spine but fucking all over because they make me want to stand in front of the mirror with a hairbrush again because I haven't felt like this about a band since 1989 because I've actually gone and bought a band T-shirt for the first time in years because sometimes I think they're so good I think I'm dreaming ( no...really) because i'm dead excited about manchester because I'm actually willing to pay over a hundred quid for a bit of plastic IF ONLY I COULD FIND IT FOR SALE because judy does make me smile, and get me away makes me cry because I'm listening to IYFS right now............ susannah at tormentor.clara.net > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 19:39:50 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 19:39:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: remember sinister? References: <348522D5.AC4433E8@totalweb.co.uk> <971203184705.n0006298.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <3485B585.7ADC2C5F@mail.zynet.co.uk> > because they send shivers not just up my spine > but fucking all over > because they make me want to stand in front of > the mirror with a hairbrush again > because I haven't felt like this about a band > since 1989 > because I've actually gone and bought a band > T-shirt for the first time in years > because sometimes I think they're so good I > think I'm dreaming ( no...really) > because i'm dead excited about manchester > because I'm actually willing to pay over a > hundred quid for a bit of plastic IF > ONLY I COULD FIND IT FOR SALE > because judy does make me smile, and get me away > makes me cry > because I'm listening to IYFS right > now............ THIS is POP! What more do you need to know?! in love. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tysonm at xxx.edu Wed Dec 3 19:40:22 1997 From: tysonm at xxx.edu (Tyson McCreary) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 11:40:22 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: remember sinister? In-Reply-To: <348522D5.AC4433E8@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: I took David's advice (before reading it) and listened to Sinister last night, specifically, Fox in the Snow. I've been stressing endlessly about college, life, and loneliness, and when it got to the part where he sings, "It's time to take a holiday," I was jolted from my fears into an almost trance-like calm. The understatement of the line, "The snow is falling, the snow is falling," is so wonderful. I have been riding my bike all over town, and while my legs aren't quite black or blue, it's seems like I've been constantly running. For the precious rest of the evening, I just listened and smiled, like I was on holiday... Tyson McCreary tysonm at cats.ucsc.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gar at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 19:49:15 1997 From: gar at xxx.uk (Gordon A Rogers) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 19:49:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: Apologies Message-ID: <199712031949.TAA25230@raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk> Sorry for my faux pas with the bad taste joke, but it came from a secondary source (if in doubt blame someone else). Whoops - Gordon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 19:55:20 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 19:55:20 GMT Subject: Sinister: cock rock fun In-Reply-To: <199712021648.QAA23496@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199712021648.QAA23496@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3485adf4.1453183@email.mcmail.com> On Tue, 2 Dec 1997 16:44:34 -0000, Tim wrote: >MY pop can and will never include Stairway to bleedin' Heaven or >Smoke on the Water. My pop is called James McTaggart, can and will speak Gaelic and make a mean Spanish omelette. >Let those who want to incorpaorate those moments >find their own words for their macho, thoughtless unchallenging guff. >Let them have rock, or whatever, if it makes them feel more manly. >Because the joy of the self-making that pop allows is the ability to >place yourself _against_ as well as (more than?) _for_. I think 'Ace of spades' 'The boys are back in town' and Rainbow's 'Since you've been gone' are totally fantastic pop records. Macho as hell, perhaps, but they make my adrenaline rush not my testoserone. >'Things Fall Apart' by Christina, which is not only my favourite Xmas >record, but also my favourite disc on the mighty Ze imprint. Over a >thumping disco beat Christina relays a sad chain of events which might >even do justice to Belle and Seb's more melancholy moments: >"there wasn't any snow, but there was rain >he licked me like a candy cane >and then one day he said >'I can't stand in your way, it's wrong' >'Way of what?' I asked, but he was gone. >Things fall apart, but they never leave your heart..." I had completely forgotten that existed. Thank you. >Still endeavouring to clean up my mail, and wet from trying to drown >myself in the Clyde. there were too many Rangers fans doing the same >thing on Sunday night... Hahahahahahahaha..... Katrina, we're on the case for the after-show, still trying to sort a venue - with decks. We're making enquiries soon, but Julian is ill, and I'm in London for a few days as of tomorrow. I'll mail you tomorrow with more information. Love Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From monroej at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 22:38:57 1997 From: monroej at xxx.com (john monroe) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:38:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: remember sinister? Message-ID: <199712032039.OAA12223@mailgw00.execpc.com> > > > because they send shivers not just up my spine but fucking all over > because they make me want to stand in front of the mirror with a hairbrush again > because I haven't felt like this about a band since 1989 > because I've actually gone and bought a band T-shirt for the first time in years > because sometimes I think they're so good I think I'm dreaming ( no...really) > because i'm dead excited about manchester > because I'm actually willing to pay over a hundred quid for a bit of plastic IF > ONLY I COULD FIND IT FOR SALE > because judy does make me smile, and get me away makes me cry > because I'm listening to IYFS right now............ no more can be added to that, perfect! its...almost too good to be true... wish i could say more, but its all said, up there... very nice. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Dec 3 22:41:16 1997 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 22:41:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: is that what you're trying to tell me....... Message-ID: <199712032128.VAA07909@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> The ONLY time that I have bought a record because of the soundtrack to a film is "The Graduate". OK fair enough I bought the greatest hits of Simon and Garfunkel but its almost the same thing. That film touched me and is still my favourite film OK - here is a discussion point What film would you (the list members) have with Belle and Sebastian songs as the soundtrack. Discuss. In my opinion.......hmmm......... I'll tell you all later.... from the paw of the pink panther or just Northy being escapist? _________________________________________________ ``A man is as old as the women he feels.'' - Groucho Marx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Dec 3 21:50:39 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 22:50:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My popology thesis is due Message-ID: <3485D42F.7A925C54@colon.net.> Why does everybody think of being young as a good thing? I think it was shit. I much prefer being nearly thirty, and I'm looking forward to being a doddery old pensioner. Of course I'll still be digging those crazy sounds and all that. Unless I'm deaf, in which case I'll have to listen in braile. Get kicked out for coming home at dawn, Mum and dad curse the day you were born... Stray Cats, pure pop rock 'n' roll thrills at their most primitive. Reminds me of when I was sixteen, and of whenever they stormed the Iranian embassy. The trouble with Lester Bangs is that the music rarely lives up to his descriptions of it. I say "trouble" but it's not really trouble. I don't know what's pop and what's rock, but my two tips for touching the sky (or whatever the phrase was) would be Concierto de Aranjuez by Rodrigo and The Lark Ascending by Vaughan Williams. One's about a dead baby and the other's about a dicky bird. Three thousand quid to go on Later? Jools Holland must be well out of pocket by now. Spook, eh? Mitchell, I envy your TC knowledge. What a bastard. I won't take this lying down. I demand a rematch, prize or no prize. I'm sure I had something B&Sish to say, but it's gone. Ah yes, a skinhead you say? I hope the whole group are going to get skinheads and wear braces, like Slade. Geoff "Bullet" Baxter PS: Apologies if I sound bitter and twisted today. It's because I am. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the.spod at xxx.com Mon Dec 1 23:46:07 1997 From: the.spod at xxx.com (Daniel Smith) Date: Mon, 1 Dec 1997 23:46:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: where are we meeting??? Message-ID: <01bcfeb3$4b76a8c0$021642c2@mbge5dss.mcc.ac.uk> has anywhere actually been decided on as a meeting place ??? How about cafe Uno??? it is directly opposite the town hall and is big enough to accomodate us all dan P.S marmite is ace!!!! *mmm* he says as be bites into his toast??? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From faw1 at xxx.edu Wed Dec 3 22:09:03 1997 From: faw1 at xxx.edu (Francisco Alberto Wong) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 17:09:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: is that what you're trying to tell me....... In-Reply-To: <199712032128.VAA07909@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: > What film would you (the list members) have with Belle and Sebastian > songs as the soundtrack. Well, I believe that we may as well put the coincidences to rest and just have Belle and Sebastian on Hal Hartley's future films soundtracks. Hmm.. I think that we'd have to make films for Belle and Sebastian's songs; create something new rather than place it over pre-existing films which already have their own soundtracks. How about for John Hughes's early teen films like Breakfast Club or Sixteen Candles, Some Kind of Wonderful or Pretty in Pink? francisco ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Smundy97 at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 23:37:30 1997 From: Smundy97 at xxx.com (Smundy97 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:37:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: obscure albums Message-ID: <971203183729_1939926314@mrin54.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 2/12/97 1:43:12 pm, keith at qss.co.uk wrote: <the erasure release called crackers international? not really obscure, >but amusing 'cause it's one of the first tapes i bought for myself as a >kid.>> I know this is the type of pointless reply they tell you not to do on mailing lists, but yes, I bought Crackers International. I also distinctly remember the day I bought the Cocteau Twins Victorialand and the Erasure album with Sometimes on it - forgotten what it's called - and Malcolm, in Malcom's Musicland, Chorley, making some comment about how one of them MUST be a present for someone - they were both for me. B&S content .... erm ... anyone from Lancashire (Preston, Wigan, Bolton, Blackburn areas) who would like to meet up before Saturday's M'ter gig, e-mail me if you want ..... simon directing traffic on the disco floor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Smundy97 at xxx.com Wed Dec 3 23:55:30 1997 From: Smundy97 at xxx.com (Smundy97 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 18:55:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Vote vote vote Message-ID: <971203185529_246567600@mrin40.mx> In a message dated 2/12/97 7:13:45 pm, Paul_Clarke at ipc.co.uk wrote: << You didn't hear it from me, but B&S are not in the top ten "Best Band"s in the NME awards so far, neither are they in the top ten "Best New Band"s either, so get voting... you can vote online at www.nme.com/awards/vote.html>> Paul, I suspect, given your net address, that you could get sacked for things like this ... still, good on ya!! simon directing traffic on the disco floor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Thu Dec 4 00:19:25 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 01:19:25 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: cock rock fun Message-ID: <199712040019.BAA28600@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Robert McTaggart wrote in a reply to Tim Winmail ... >I think 'Ace of spades' 'The boys are back in town' and Rainbow's >'Since you've been gone' are totally fantastic pop records. Macho as >hell, perhaps, but they make my adrenaline rush not my testoserone. The Shop Assistants covered "Ace of spades", which should prove its position within the limit of tolerance ... >>Still endeavouring to clean up my mail, and wet from trying to drown >>myself in the Clyde. there were too many Rangers fans doing the same >>thing on Sunday night... > >Hahahahahahahaha..... He he he ... better luck next time. Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Dec 3 14:51:49 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 14:51:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: arab strap supporting on 27th? Message-ID: <80256563.000AF382.00@bull.co.uk> one of the music papers has arab strap down as support for the saturday christmas gig? is this a new development (seeing as katrina said (a couple of weeks ago) that there was no support band on the saturday)? oh, i had another b&s dream the other night and it reminded me that i haven't told you the first one yet. here goes: a swimming pool, indoor, the audience crammed around three sides of it, band playing at one of the shorter ends. bongo drums instead of the usual percussion, girls in grass skirts doing a little hula dance. then stuart murdoch gets carried to the stage on the shoulders of tall blokes wading through the water. um, that's all. the second one's only really a snippet. it's in a usual venue and all and they do the old two sets thing and during the break i pop out of the main room. when i come back i find the front of the stage festooned with fruit and veg which the band are selling. what does it all mean? yeah, it's probably a sex thing, they usually are... there was another b&s mention on teletext this morning, someone's best of the year thing... oh, and someone was asking about the new trembling blue stars single. it was out in england on monday (mine's in the post, hopefully) but parasol has already sent out copies to americans who had it ordered. lp is due on the 17th(?) of january. there's an advert in the music papers this week for it. andy dreaming dreaming dreaming dreaming baby... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 04:23:58 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:23:58 EST Subject: Sinister: nik cohn Message-ID: <6604674e.34863090@aol.com> In a message dated 97-12-03 14:25:10 EST, you write: > Who can name the most obscure record they own??? "Mass in F Minor" by the Electric Prunes ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From monroej at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 07:18:02 1997 From: monroej at xxx.com (john monroe) Date: Wed, 3 Dec 1997 23:18:02 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: obscure cool records Message-ID: <199712040518.XAA00366@mailgw01.execpc.com> > > > Who can name the most obscure record they own??? i think it is obscure: '7th free record' by Smile ( there are other bands called Smile, which are more well knowni woudl think!). this Smile was from illinois ( champaign/urbana i think), about 5 years ago, and sounds a lot like galaxie 500, in fact they ahd a song called 'galaxy 500'! its very pretty music, and two tracks ended up on a compilation cd ( 'on a clear day you can see byron' ) but they weren't my favorite tracks, darn it! i loved that record, bought two copies, each were indivudually hand painted and numbered. i traded one to someone for a field mice flexi, someone who seemed cool, and i never heard back from them, and wondered if the album offended them! i wish i had that other copy again... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Whispes at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 08:30:31 1997 From: Whispes at xxx.com (Whispes) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 03:30:31 EST Subject: Sinister: indie pop record auction still going on! Message-ID: <8b2b1cea.34866a29@aol.com> Hi! This is Larry again..just a reminder to let you know that I am having a record auction and it ends the 10th! It's been going on for quite some time and for those of you don't know the original auction that started about a little over 2 weeks ago was accidentally canceled(AOL problem what else?) so we had to start all over so *if you made a post BEFORE November 25-26 (which was when the new page went up) you might need to repost* ..most people know that already though. Anyways it ends the 10th and I just wanted to remind people that it was out there at http://members.aol.com/Whispes/Auction_Frame.htm (frames) http://members.aol.com/Whispes/Sale.htm (no frames) Thanks! Larry ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ase at xxx.nl Thu Dec 4 12:02:27 1997 From: ase at xxx.nl (ase at xxx.nl) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 97 12:02:27 MET Subject: Sinister: remember sinister? Message-ID: <9711048812.AA881266036@ccmailgw.dasc.nl> "john monroe" (monroej at execpc.com) wrote: >> >>because they send shivers not just up my spine but fucking all over >>because they make me want to stand in front of the mirror with a hairbrush again >>because I haven't felt like this about a band since 1989 >>because I've actually gone and bought a band T-shirt for the first time in years >>because sometimes I think they're so good I think I'm dreaming ( no...really) >>because i'm dead excited about manchester >>because I'm actually willing to pay over a hundred quid for a bit of plastic IF >>ONLY I COULD FIND IT FOR SALE >>because judy does make me smile, and get me away makes me cry >>because I'm listening to IYFS right now............ >no more can be added to that, perfect! >its...almost too good to be true... >wish i could say more, but its all said, up there... very nice. ... Ah the IYFS album ... Every time I listen to it. I think when a song begins, this could be a great one, but somehow I'm always disappointed. Now I do think that Dog on Wheels is bloody brilliant (and I also like the other two EPs), it's just I don't find IYFS a great/good album. Arnold Seijen (ase at dasc.nl) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- All that crap about believing the truth. When you know it don't depend on you. Moose - So much love, so little time ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 10:40:50 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:40:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Led Zeppelin and other Rock Message-ID: <01bd00a1$16afda40$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> I too once (in high school) fell in love with the music of the mighty 'zep. I enjoyed it at the time. Further, I would contend that their early music is very reputable even on a critical standpoint. Did you know that Kenny Pickett (from the Creation) was their roadie? Robert Plant attended a Divine Comedy show in New York and I didn't even recognize him (I was too busy acting like a fool in front of Harvey Williams). It (led zep) was a bit misogynist. But the band was influenced by a lot of misogynist music. Did you also know that Stuart M used to listen to a lot of Yes (probably less reputable than early Zep). Matt ------------------------ Yes, is an interesting point given the intro to "Yours is no disgrace" and "Your just a baby girl" Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 16:16:43 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:16:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Them gigs again Message-ID: Manchester Gigs - Ticket Availablity ------------------------------------ Just a few points.... 1. Are both gigs now sold out? 2. if not, what ticket outlets are still supplying tickets?(inc.fan club) and for which days? 3. ...and approx. how many tickets are left? Personally i have got my ticket(for Sunday) but a friend has suddenly decided he wants to come along. Any news - David/Katrina? Ideally i would have mailed you direct but i thought the list might want to know. Cheers Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Thu Dec 4 11:42:23 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 12:42:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Acid House Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971204114223.00675a20@student.let.uva.nl> Hello chaps! I've got two questions for you: 1. Does anyone know when The Acid House is coming out and what B&S track is going to be on the soundtrack? 2. Did anyone watch Never Mind The Buzzcocks (repeat) on Monday? Who was the bloke on the right team, with the long hair and nose piercing. He kept saying he was in a rock band. He seemed familiar (looked like Mark Owen actually--EEEEEK!), and since then I've been racking my mind to come up with an answer. Ach, he's probably crap anyway. Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Thu Dec 4 12:47:11 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 4 Dec 97 12:47:11 Subject: Sinister: Le Pastiche de la Murdochese Message-ID: <9712041256.AA7990@notesgw.compuserve.com> Inspired by John Updike's recently completed collaborative internet novel, for which he supplied the first paragraph and left the world to complete, I thought it might be fun to do the same with the a Belle and Sebastian song. So, here's my stab at the first verse. I found I had difficulty departing from rhyming couplets - I guess my songwriting skills need some developing. No title yet - perhaps that will come with the chorus. Or perhaps the whole thing will fall flat and no one will be remotely interested in taking part. That's the chance I'm going to take for every stupid thing I post. Hey ho. Judith got herself in trouble down at choir practice, Sporting a pink cassock homespun from spandex. Kissed the warden's daughter at the back of the vestry - Something to do while her friends do drugs down the Ministry. The girl hasn't felt so simply thrilled to be alive Since she stole some tights from BHS in '85.... Bye for now, Nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Thu Dec 4 14:00:38 1997 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:00:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: Manchester support bands In-Reply-To: <34859330.105B@virgin.net> Message-ID: <8668FD7655@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Arab Strap, man. How ace is that. They're playing right here in leeds as well next week. Hurray. Anyway, what's this about an aftershow? Very showbiz. For those of us unlikely to be going, a cool place to meet up, get down, and rock out would be Smile at the Star & Garter, on saturday night. For the uninitiated, it's a nigh on perfect club, totally in check with B&S' not-quite-indie ethos. They play Pavement and Felt, then B&S and Cardigans, then Supremes and Nancy Sinatra, then some more B&S, then Saint Etienne, then My Life Story if you're lucky, then it all gets a bit blurry and you fall asleep on the stairs while the Pete Wiggs-a-likes take photos of their girlfriends. It's dead cheap, right groovy, and great. If people are gonna go, then kinda post stuff about whether you'll where flowers in your hair, or grolsch tops in your shoes, or whatever. Seeya, Joseph xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 13:16:54 1997 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:16:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Suited to pop ? Message-ID: <01BD00B6.E4E36E80@pc7628> Am I the only suit in the world who likes B&S ?, everyone else on this list appears to be at University, or plying some sort of music trade. I have long since given up all hope of ever actually laying my hands on vinyl Tigermilk, as I am sick of the derisory looks and comments I get down at the local "indie" stores...mainly because they are run by sicko sixth-form college boys with potato-crops on their shoulders....we have some half decent second-hand stores down here and wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that was a copy floating around, although anyone who even considered parting with their own copy must have a screw loose. Thankfully, I've got a half decent PC here and have been listening from SD's totalweb site in me lunch hour....not quite the same though! If anyone feels kind enough to run me off a half-decent copy, drop us a line at the address below. aevans at env-dept.devon-cc.gov.uk -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 14:59:49 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:59:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Veladrome 2000, Message-ID: <3FBAEE001A@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> on Popstar records. Anyone know of a web page, contact address. I'm trying to get a copy of their single Charity Shop for my friend. I tried Oxfams but... By the way, I was accused of listening to soppy music, last night, when I was falling asleep to the tunes of B&S. Another friend, who has just stumbled across B&S described them as a cross between Dylan, Simon and Garfunkel, and Donovan. chris xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Dec 4 15:05:16 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:05:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Acid House In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971204114223.00675a20@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Eeyore wrote: > > 2. Did anyone watch Never Mind The Buzzcocks (repeat) on Monday? Who was the > bloke on the right team, with the long hair and nose piercing. He kept > saying he was in a rock band. He seemed familiar (looked like Mark Owen > actually--EEEEEK!), and since then I've been racking my mind to come up with > an answer. Ach, he's probably crap anyway. It wasnae shown in Scotland, but I would bet you 50p that the bloke you're referring to is Tony Wright, lead singer with Terrorvision. Sounds like Mark Owen too (when he's speaking. Not musically.) Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Hancrock: n. A signature usually found on diplomas and corporate | cheques that has been stamped there as opposed to handwritten ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 972286231 at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 15:08:31 1997 From: 972286231 at xxx.uk (Pooh, that's who) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:08:31 GMT Subject: Sinister: Acid House In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971204114223.00675a20@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 12:42:23 +0100 > To: sinister at majordomo.net > From: Eeyore > Subject: Sinister: Acid House > Reply-to: Eeyore > Hello chaps! > I've got two questions for you: > > 1. Does anyone know when The Acid House is coming out and what B&S track is > going to be on the soundtrack? > Sorry, no. > 2. Did anyone watch Never Mind The Buzzcocks (repeat) on Monday? Who was the > bloke on the right team, with the long hair and nose piercing. He kept > saying he was in a rock band. He seemed familiar (looked like Mark Owen > actually--EEEEEK!), and since then I've been racking my mind to come up with > an answer. Ach, he's probably crap anyway. > > Eeyore > Wasn't it Gary (Apeboy) Stringer off Reef? > > > "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Take Care, Love & Rage, Nick. (972286231 at 97.lincoln.ac.uk) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 972286231 at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 15:14:26 1997 From: 972286231 at xxx.uk (Pooh, that's who) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:14:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: Mishearings Message-ID: The funniest mishearing i can remember is when i honestly believed that a line from IYFS went: Look at these, my monkey knees It makes up for the shortcomings of being bald. Time to clear that wax out of my ears. Take Care, Love & Rage, Nick. (972286231 at 97.lincoln.ac.uk) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 15:15:47 1997 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 15:15:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Veladrome 2000, Message-ID: <156BFC91A6F@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> From: "Chris D Martin" Organization: Centre For Educational Sociology To: sinister at majordomo.net Date sent: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:59:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Veladrome 2000, Send reply to: "Chris D Martin" > on Popstar records. Anyone know of a web page, contact address. I'm > trying to get a copy of their single Charity Shop for my friend. I > tried Oxfams but... "Chris D Martin" ***************************************************** I'll forward your email to Penny who's lead singer - she'll send you price details cos' I've forgotten how much they are selling it for. But the address is Popstar Records c/o Forever Changes 553 Ecclesall Road Hunters Bar Sheffield S11 8PR They've also got a track on the latest Snakebite City Comp (no. 7), called "Bobby Gillespie is a virgin". cheers Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 15:16:10 1997 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 10:16:10 EST Subject: Sinister: nik cohn Message-ID: <66de777.3486c93c@aol.com> << > Who can name the most obscure record they own??? >> A Cocteau Twins interview picture-record from 1984! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ds3624a at xxx.edu Thu Dec 4 15:23:31 1997 From: ds3624a at xxx.edu (Damon Seils) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 10:23:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: manchester on pbs References: <8668FD7655@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3486CAF3.541B@american.edu> Is it true that the Manchester gigs are being broadcast by PBS? If so, are they being shown in the US? Anyone know?? (damon) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9503594b at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 13:35:56 1997 From: 9503594b at xxx.uk (Julia Mary Brown) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:35:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: 13th Note/Hello Walter? Message-ID: <3A7338C0AD2@student.gla.ac.uk> I was at the gig in the 13th Note too, and I thought Eugenius, The Pastels and Belle and Sebastian were great. But I was also probably the only person there that was disappointed that the BMX Bandits didn't play! (....they were one of the first bands I cared about) The Pastels totally rocked. And Stephen Pastel was wearing a dufle coat before hand, which was cool because I always thought the Pastels/duffle coat thing was a myth. The only thing I think was that B&S shouldn't have played last when they weren't playing a full set, It didn't bother me because I knew from a girl who asked Sarah that they were only playing 5 songs, but I know a couple of people there thiought it was a bit of an anticlimax- by being last on the bill I suppose expectations were raised a bit. Still, what they played was fantastic, and I liked the Jesus and Mary chain song best cause of the cool guitar bits that Chris played. The most amazing feat of the night was that they all got on the stage, which was tiny. Or they did at first, and then Stuart David gave up and played his bass from the front row of the audience, standing up at first, and then from sitting down. He's got a beard now, and Chris Geddes' shaved head looks good, though its no longer a total skinhead. Does any one care about these details- probably not..sorry. Now I must abuse the list a bit, and hope that Walter (sorry, can't remember your non-nickname) has bothered reading the above rubbish to get this far, and say that I am still here, all the rest of my mail seems to be getting to me ok, so I don't know why yours doesn't, and i don't know if you get the messages I send or not. Incase you haven't this is ny address to write on paper if you still want to meet up for Manchester: Flat 2/R, 12 Arlington Street, Glasgow, G3 6DU. I'm really sorry to everyone for that, but there seemed to be no other way of contact. And to reiterate a previous plea, anyone want to meet up with me enroute to Manchester? I'll be travelling from Aberdeen via Glasgow, and where ever the bus/train (I've not decided) stops. Bye bye, love Juliaxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 15:43:22 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 15:43:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: Smile, aftershows, funny you should say that.... In-Reply-To: <8668FD7655@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> References: <8668FD7655@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3487c8f0.484322@email.mcmail.com> On Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:00:38 GMT, you wrote: >Arab Strap, man. How ace is that. Man? What kind of talk is that? you big bloody hippy. The word is dude (no it isn't). >They're playing right here in leeds as well next week. Hurray. Hurray. That's a much better word. >Anyway, what's this about an aftershow? Very showbiz. >For those of us unlikely to be going, a cool place to meet up, >get down, and rock out would be Smile at the Star & Garter, on >saturday night. For the uninitiated, it's a nigh on perfect club, >totally in check with B&S' not-quite-indie ethos. Not-quite-indie ethos. Yeah, that is one way of putting it. Smile can be beautiful, drunken anarchy, but with attitude and immaculate taste (mostly, there are exceptions - My Life Story being one of them). >They play Pavement and Felt, then B&S and Cardigans, then Supremes >and Nancy Sinatra, then some more B&S, then Saint Etienne, then >My Life Story if you're lucky. No, the word isn't lucky. >then it all gets a bit blurry and you fall asleep on the >stairs while the Pete Wiggs-a-likes take photos of their girlfriends. Did you do fall asleep? You drunken, mad, beautiful fool. Pete-Wiggs-a-likes, hahahaha. Apparently said guy saw Pete Wiggs in London and tapped him on the shoulder, Pete turned round and said 'fuckin' ell' cos he thought he'd met his doppelganger. But he never got confused with Mick Hucknall in Pizza Hut as someone very dear to me did rather bizarrely (OK, it was me). >It's dead cheap, right groovy, and great. >If people are gonna go, then kinda post stuff about whether you'll >where flowers in your hair, or grolsch tops in your shoes, or >whatever. This is one of those strange coincidences that happens in life from time to time, which brings me to good news, bad news time (as the Krankies used to say on Crackerjack). The bad news is 'Smile' probably won't be happening on 27th December (awwwww....), the good news is that the much-mooted After Show party, and Smile may well be connected in some way (woohoo!). Naaa, I've said too much. It's being worked on and you, the kids, will be the first to know. By the way, I don't work for 'Smile', I just do their press, haha. Love and kisses, Tag Incidentally, which of you said you had to be bored to go to Manchester at 3 in the morning? Pah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From muellerj at xxx.edu Thu Dec 4 16:02:04 1997 From: muellerj at xxx.edu (Telepathic Traffic) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 09:02:04 -0700 (MST) Subject: Sinister: nik cohn In-Reply-To: <66de777.3486c93c@aol.com> Message-ID: > << > Who can name the most obscure record they own??? >> I almost feel as if this isn't worth mentioning because alot of 7''s are "obscure" because so few are pressed. Nonetheless, I suppose the most obscure thing I have is a Portastatic import 7' that was limited to only 150 copies. Looking beyond my collection though...I had to clean out the vinyl stacks at the radio station I work at and they have lots of collectibles including stuff from the Pixies, Talking Heads, the Pouges, New Order, and lots more. It was pretty exciting...I even found a Talulah Gosh album I never knew we had. jm > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From p.higgins at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 13:54:05 1997 From: p.higgins at xxx.uk (Peter Higgins) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 13:54:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jesus wept Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971204135405.007aa100@www.csm-li.co.uk> Don't take this personally, but... That pastiche of a B&S song which someone suggested we could all add to in a kind of internet happy clappy collaborative perfect world vomit inducing experiment type thingy was simply astounding! Please keep such "ideas" to yourself next time, I could do without the kind of mental upset which your "song" caused me. It's nonsense like this which gives fans a bad name. Right, can I go back to sleep now? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faw1 at xxx.edu Thu Dec 4 16:33:06 1997 From: faw1 at xxx.edu (Francisco Alberto Wong) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 11:33:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: nik cohn In-Reply-To: <66de777.3486c93c@aol.com> Message-ID: > > << > Who can name the most obscure record they own??? >> Hurm. I own Happy Mondays' "Freaky Dancin'" 12"... uhm. I know. Who cares? But to distinguish between obscure band or obscure record? Or do they go hand in hand? I think Belle and Sebastian could get away with a cheeky cover of an early Duran Duran song, likesay, "Save A Prayer" 'cos I was just thinking about my 1st record ever--"Seven and the Ragged Tiger". What a beaut, that. francisco ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 17:44:01 1997 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 97 17:44:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: <199712041633.QAA05207@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Robert McTaggart wrote 3/12/97 5:20 pm: >>can't remember the name of the fourth one, Tag >>knows, I could only recognise the tune (Sung by Stuart and Stevie) > >That was by those loveable baroque 60s popsters The Left Banke, 'I've >got something on my mind'. Now I'm dead jealous. Couldn't make it through on Tuesday as I was entertaining friends. Ahh The Left BankeŠ purveyors of timeless perfect pop, who had hits with the harpsichord fuelled 'Walk Away Renee', 'I Haven't Got the Nerve', 'She May Call You Up Tonight' and the above 'I've Got Something on My Mind' amongst others. Highly recommended to those whose ears love B&S. Keith, I do believe I've played 'I've got SomethingŠ' while you were at the club a while ago. I could give you a copy of Left Banke stuff if you want. >In today's Melody Maker, it says that B&S are going to be supported by >Arab Strap at the Saturday show in Manchester. Katrina? >Stuart G It seems The Strap are playing at The Attic in Edinburgh on Tuesday the 16th with Jeepster signings Snow patrol. Unfortunately the woeful Pilotcan are on the bill above the B&S labelmates. Would anybody be going to that particular shindig. What are Snow patrol like then? - More info Katrina. Byee, Paul "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Thu Dec 4 16:44:09 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:44:09 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Re: obscure cool records Message-ID: <199712041644.RAA24611@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> MWaggner wrote ... >> Who can name the most obscure record they own??? > >"Mass in F Minor" by the Electric Prunes Paisley Shirts - For all the girls we loved before 7" (test pressing) V.A. - "Sorry - Sold Out" LP (featuring TVPs and Pastels cover versions) Lovely stuff ... Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aroels at xxx.fr Thu Dec 4 17:50:00 1997 From: aroels at xxx.fr (Anne) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 97 17:50 GMT+0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S Manchester GIGS Message-ID: Hi everybody, Help!!! Is anyone going from London to Manchester on the 26th for the B&S gigs and could give me a lift...? Has anyone any suggestions about cheap b&b accomodations in Manchester or whatever... Is there a meet-up in Manchester? When and Where???!??????????? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Thu Dec 4 17:10:50 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 17:10:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: jesus wept In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971204135405.007aa100@www.csm-li.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Peter Higgins wrote: > Don't take this personally, but... > That pastiche of a B&S song which someone suggested we could all add to in > a kind of internet happy clappy collaborative perfect world vomit inducing > experiment type thingy was simply astounding! > Please keep such "ideas" to yourself next time, I could do without the kind > of mental upset which your "song" caused me. > It's nonsense like this which gives fans a bad name. > Right, can I go back to sleep now? Cool it please. Everyone's just trying to have fun and stay friends. Nick - you don't need to reply :) Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bohobird1 at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 17:26:11 1997 From: bohobird1 at xxx.com (DALE COOPER) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 09:26:11 PST Subject: Sinister: looking for something Message-ID: <19971204172612.28868.qmail@hotmail.com> i know this does not perain to belle and sebastian however: does anyone have a copy of mornington cres. - my life story that they are wanting to get rid of if so, please mail me!! cheers! bohobird1 at hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Thu Dec 4 19:01:59 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 4 Dec 97 19:01:59 Subject: Sinister: jesus wept Message-ID: <9712041853.AA4115@notesgw.compuserve.com> Sinister: jesus wept Peter Higgins (p.higgins at mailgate.csm-li.co.uk) Thu, 04 Dec 1997 13:54:05 +0000 >Don't take this personally, but... That pastiche of a B&S song which someone suggested we could all add to in a kind of >internet happy clappy collaborative perfect world vomit inducing experiment type thingy was simply astounding! Please >keep such "ideas" to yourself next time, I could do without the kind of mental upset which your "song" caused me. It's >nonsense like this which gives fans a bad name. Right, can I go back to sleep now? Oh dear, I feel like I've had the stuffing knocked out of me. Don't take this personally but... I think you misunderstood my intentions, character, whatever, Peter. Of course my "song" was crap. And no, I don't really subscribe to all this global village nonsense either. It was a _joke_. Maybe not a very good one after all, and of course jokes that fall flat are worse when they are in print (well, not print, but you know what I mean) because they just sit there lurking in their irretrievable, semi-permanent state. The lines I wrote where supposed to be a piss-take of some of the more obvious, recurring themes in Stuart Murdoch's songs (esp. the earlier ones). Such as: * Mentioning misfit girls by name a lot (Jean, Jenny, Judy, Lisa, Jane, etc) * Dropping in names of years ('82 in She's Losing It, 1975 and 1995 in The State I Am In, 1972 in Me and the Major) * Ecclesiastical matters (IYFS, Le Pastie) * Not being into the drugs scene (Me and the Major, Photo Jenny, Le Pastie) I'm not remotely suggesting that these 'sum up' Belle and Sebastian - they're the kind of things that if taken to extremes would make for a very dull, formulaic twee pile of rubbish. Of course I think there's infinitely more to them them than that - they wouldn't be my favourite bands for years if I didn't. But in a light-hearted (crap phrase I know - shades of '..and finally' items on local news) way I thought maybe others might have spotted other things in Belle & Sebastian to satirise which they could post as further verses to mine. But if no one thinks it's funny or appropriate, I shall bow to your sharp tongue (hey - mix those metaphors), consign my thread to the bin and hang my head in shame at Manchester Town Hall. So long, Nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Thu Dec 4 19:04:09 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:04:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: now wait just a minute... Message-ID: >Don't take this personally, but... >That pastiche of a B&S song which someone suggested we could all add to in >a kind of internet happy clappy collaborative perfect world vomit inducing >experiment type thingy was simply astounding! >Please keep such "ideas" to yourself next time, I could do without the kind >of mental upset which your "song" caused me. >It's nonsense like this which gives fans a bad name. >Right, can I go back to sleep now? no, it's nonsense like *that* that gives fans a bad name. I'm relatively new to the whole email mailing list business, but wasn't that a flame? Let me just say that the B&S list has been one of the best things that's happened to me since I've been out here for school. Well, I guess it's been B&S in general, but I've "met" so many amicable, generous people via the list. Ben helped me obtain all 3 EPs, I had no trouble acquiring a tape of Tigermilk, and everyone else has been (for the most part) just so nice and good-humored and eloquent in their postings to the list. I've even struck up a few longtanding email exchanges with some people. Unlike some, I relish those mornings when I wake up, boot up the ol' Macintosh, and check my email to find 20-odd messages waiting for me. It's become regular routine. I fear for the upcoming vacation when I'll be away from my computer... And I finally found out about a fellow listee right here on campus (hello, Claudia!); we got to chatting last night at a transmitter training session at the university radio station (she inquired as to where I had purchased the enamel B&S badge that I wear on my coat; I explained the wonder that is international credit card charging), and eventually we both confessed to being (mildly) crazed fans. I'm glad to have found a kindred spirit here. Just my $0.02. ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "there's a portrait in a back room which i keep for days upon which i relent and gaze for hours on the muscle, skin and bone of some imaginary friend." --Belle and Sebastian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 19:11:52 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 19:11:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Smile, aftershows, funny you should say that.... References: <8668FD7655@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> <3487c8f0.484322@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: <34870078.6B036123@mail.zynet.co.uk> > >They're playing right here in leeds as well > next week. Hurray. > > Hurray. That's a much better word. Hurrah! there's an even better one. But only pre-1987 :-) the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 19:08:36 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 19:08:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: grolsch tops in your shoes, References: <8668FD7655@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3486FFB4.C216E68F@mail.zynet.co.uk> > or grolsch tops in your shoes, people still do this???!!! i'm amazed... i'm sure b&s would never wear such things on their footwear, or indeed fall foul of such travesties of fashion sense as painting flowers on DMs. Ugh. i do however like the story of Chris and his skinhead... like Mogwai shaving their heads to do Young Team because they wanted the right level of spiritual purity :-) How Dexy's. How Pop. keet the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From crb23 at xxx.edu Thu Dec 4 19:21:38 1997 From: crb23 at xxx.edu (Christopher R Blake) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 14:21:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: B & S Article Message-ID: Perhaps you've all read this but I just came accross it and thought I'd mention it. The 11/14 issue of Salon contains an article about Belle & Sebastian written by Nick Hornby. http://www.salonmagazine.com Sorry if this is old news - I've only been subscribed for a week and a half. Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From monroej at xxx.com Thu Dec 4 21:24:05 1997 From: monroej at xxx.com (john monroe) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 13:24:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: jesus wept Message-ID: <199712041924.NAA17139@mailgw01.execpc.com> ----------. It was a _joke_. Maybe > not a very good one after all, and of course jokes that fall flat are worse > when they are in print (well, not print, but you know what I mean) because they > just sit there lurking in their irretrievable, semi-permanent state. i thought it funny, it reminded me of this US comedian ( and i am blocking on his name! ) who had this stand up routine about meeting morrissey, and he goes into this morrissey-esque sing-songy voice " Did i tell you i lied / and then i cried/ and then i lied... did i tell you i cried? oh, ok" > The lines I wrote where supposed to be a piss-take of some of the more obvious, > recurring themes in Stuart Murdoch's songs (esp. the earlier ones). Such as: yes, i think you spotted them alright! > I'm not remotely suggesting that these 'sum up' Belle and Sebastian - they're > the kind of things that if taken to extremes would make for a very dull, > formulaic twee pile of rubbish. Of course I think there's infinitely more to > them them than that - they wouldn't be my favourite bands for years if I didn't. agreed 100% there. i really didn't think you were trying to put the band down. so, it was silly, but i find parody humorous. One can make any line into a song by the Fall, by adding '-uh' to the end of every other word :) well, maybe that is only funny after having a few drinks and singing old bob dylan songs as if Mark E. Smith was singing... 'hey-uh, mr tambourine man-uh, come play your song-uh for ME!' you get the picture. ( side note - when MES recently sacked the band, it was reported he wanted to go on stage solo and do beachboys songs, oh i wish it was true... ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamie.huxley at xxx.uk Thu Dec 4 21:54:05 1997 From: jamie.huxley at xxx.uk (Jamie Huxley) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 21:54:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: i dont mean to perpetuate what has been called a "flaming" but i think i object more to the justification of the "song" (with its A-level bullet point style breakdown of B&S themes) than i ever did to the parody/pastiche/joke, which just fell on some stoney ground. i understand it was a joke, but i spend every day of term doing this to books i love, stripping away their magic with pieces of A-4, and getting pissed off with them in the process. i wouldn't ever like this to happen to music i love. 1. stand by your failures as you would your successes. 2. analysis can 3. sometimes 4.be 5. paralysis Jimmy Jazz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mojo at xxx.net Wed Dec 3 22:53:57 1997 From: mojo at xxx.net (Monaz) Date: Wed, 03 Dec 1997 22:53:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stuffe Message-ID: <3485E305.3EA6@pemail.net> Um, first post to the list...not actually about anything in particular...I joined because I love B&S (well, don't we all?) and because the Grand High Master Paul told me to. Feeling a mix of annoyance and sadness cos Arab Strap have cancelled their Cambridge date. That's over a year I've been waiting to see them and I can bet that they'll tour when I have my exams next year. And Magoo were supporting them too...arse. Lame B&S con : A load of books fell on my 3...6...9 7" while it was playing, and it came away completely undamaged. Just goes to show really... Monaz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Matilda.Moore at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 00:07:56 1997 From: Matilda.Moore at xxx.com (Matilda Moore) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 00:07:56 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From JSwinea at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 01:29:04 1997 From: JSwinea at xxx.com (JSwinea) Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 20:29:04 EST Subject: Sinister: remove sinister Message-ID: remove sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 01:40:36 1997 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 01:40:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <30604.9712050140@link-1.ts.bcc.ac.uk> Hello. Aggi here. I came to Scotland from Athens to see B&S at the 13th note with Tag. What an experience! I'm glad I saw them at Glasgow. They were suprisingly unpretentious and theaudience too. Stuart has the most divine voice and I liked Isobel's tie and bag. I really enjoyed 'I've got smt on my mind', but if only they played 'Get me away from here, I'm dying', 'Dog on wheels' and 'The state that I am in'. I should have recorded them. Thanks Tag for inviting me to see them together. I also met Keith, Andy and Anne. Keith put us under his roof in Edinburgh! It was a kind of anniversary, since I first listened to them exactly a year ago, although Tag says that our first contact with B&S was in October 96 in Athens. Hello.Kelly here. When are they doing Athens? La vie sera plus belle ensuite, non? Happy bunnies? What is that about? Sleep well, Aggi Kelly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.Hay at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 08:19:31 1997 From: R.Hay at xxx.com (R.Hay at xxx.com) Date: 05 Dec 1997 08:19:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Beat Patrol In-Reply-To: <9712041256.AA7990anotesgw.compuserve.com@MHS> Message-ID: <"H00004a104f55957*/I=R/S=Hay/OU=OPENMAIL1/OU=UEFT444/O=SHELLEXPRO ABERDEEN/PRMD=SHELL/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/"@MHS> TwO quick points: Firstly, is there any further info on the proposed Beat Patrol session on Radio Scotland over Christmas/New Year - has it even been confirmed yet? Secondly, with the World Cup comes the World Cup song. How about BandS doing the Scotland one, then we can have some solace when we return home pointless because we'd have the best song and all the international kudos associated with that. Richard ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 09:08:57 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 09:08:57 GMT Subject: Sinister: Flower of Scotland In-Reply-To: <"H00004a104f55957*/I=R/S=Hay/OU=OPENMAIL1/OU=UEFT444/O=SHELLEXPRO ABERDEEN/PRMD=SHELL/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/"@MHS> References: <"H00004a104f55957*/I=R/S=Hay/OU=OPENMAIL1/OU=UEFT444/O=SHELLEXPRO ABERDEEN/PRMD=SHELL/ADMD=GOLD 400/C=GB/"@MHS> Message-ID: <3488c1ba.2916132@email.mcmail.com> On 05 Dec 1997 08:19:31 +0000, Richard wrote: >Secondly, with the World Cup comes the World Cup song. How about BandS >doing the Scotland one, then we can have some solace when we return home >pointless because we'd have the best song and all the international >kudos associated with that. I've said it before, the words to 'Dylan in the Movies' lend themselves perfectly to the sort of devotion and delicious sentimentality that football fans know and love. But can you imagine Belle and Sebastian doing 'Flower of Scotland'. If any voice is suited to the beautiful defiance and vulnerability of that song, then it's Stuart Murdoch's. I may be 50% sasernach, but that song gets me every time. On the other hand they could just do 'Donald, where's yer troosers?' Wild Jock McTaggart, Scourge of the Glens ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 09:40:57 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:40:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Song-spiel Message-ID: <199712050925.JAA07815@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> I thought Nick's song thing was a great idea. I was trying to come up with a verse myself (bearing in mind Walt Whitman's contention that "the powerful play goes on and you may contribuite a verse") but couldn't manage the Murdochesque inflection of Nick's. Anyhow hooray for Paul, the good shepherd of this List. I think we're lucky to have him and I want to tell him that he's ace! I am, sir, your most assuredly happy bunny. John xxx >---------- >From: Nick >Dastoor/BSHO/GB[SMTP:Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com] >Sent: 04 Dec 1997 19:01 >To: sinister >Subject: Re: Sinister: jesus wept > >Sinister: jesus wept > >Peter Higgins (p.higgins at mailgate.csm-li.co.uk) >Thu, 04 Dec 1997 13:54:05 +0000 > > >>Don't take this personally, but... That pastiche of a B&S song which someone >suggested we could all add to in a kind of >internet happy clappy >collaborative >perfect world vomit inducing experiment type thingy was simply astounding! >Please >keep such "ideas" to yourself next time, I could do without the kind >of >mental upset which your "song" caused me. It's >nonsense like this which >gives >fans a bad name. Right, can I go back to sleep now? > >Oh dear, I feel like I've had the stuffing knocked out of me. Don't take >this >personally but... I think you misunderstood my intentions, character, >whatever, Peter. Of course my "song" was crap. And no, I don't really >subscribe to all this global village nonsense either. It was a _joke_. >Maybe >not a very good one after all, and of course jokes that fall flat are worse >when they are in print (well, not print, but you know what I mean) because >they >just sit there lurking in their irretrievable, semi-permanent state. > >The lines I wrote where supposed to be a piss-take of some of the more >obvious, >recurring themes in Stuart Murdoch's songs (esp. the earlier ones). Such as: > >* Mentioning misfit girls by name a lot (Jean, Jenny, Judy, Lisa, Jane, etc) >* Dropping in names of years ('82 in She's Losing It, 1975 and 1995 in The >State I Am In, 1972 in Me and the Major) >* Ecclesiastical matters (IYFS, Le Pastie) >* Not being into the drugs scene (Me and the Major, Photo Jenny, Le Pastie) > >I'm not remotely suggesting that these 'sum up' Belle and Sebastian - they're >the kind of things that if taken to extremes would make for a very dull, >formulaic twee pile of rubbish. Of course I think there's infinitely more to >them them than that - they wouldn't be my favourite bands for years if I >didn't. > >But in a light-hearted (crap phrase I know - shades of '..and finally' items >on >local news) way I thought maybe others might have spotted other things in >Belle >& Sebastian to satirise which they could post as further verses to mine. But >if no one thinks it's funny or appropriate, I shall bow to your sharp tongue >(hey - mix those metaphors), consign my thread to the bin and hang my head in >shame at Manchester Town Hall. > >So long, >Nick > >nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Fri Dec 5 09:50:06 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 09:50:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Readers Poll Message-ID: <3487CE4E.4F58@nmrc.ucc.ie> Hi, someone posted the address for the nme readers poll yesterday so we all could vote b&s as best of every single category (e.g. best male solo artist: Sebastian, best female solo artist: Belle). Does anyone know if something similar exists for the melody maker? Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 09:55:40 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 09:55:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: gol! Message-ID: <199712050939.JAA08284@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Yes! Yes! Yes! to Belle and Sebastian doing the Scotland World Cup Song. I have a feeling this is going to be Scotlands best ever World Cup and with some soaraway single behind them it can only be a glorious summer for these sons of Rawk (sorry). But I fear the SFA will only consent to a record that features the name Donnie Munro prominently on it somewhere. Perhaps they could call it "Donnie Munro".... I'm feeling wildly chipper today! I've finished a big project at work, the play I'm in is going really well and my mate came to see it last night. After the show the conversation somehow came round to Belle and Sebastian and how absolutely heart-breakingly-surly-bond-slippingly-pop-tastically great they are. xx john ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the.spod at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 11:03:45 1997 From: the.spod at xxx.com (Daniel Smith) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:03:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S Manchester GIGS Message-ID: <01bd016d$7863a060$011642c2@mbge5dss.mcc.ac.uk> -----Original Message----- From: Anne To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: 04 December 1997 17:49 Subject: Sinister: B&S Manchester GIGS >Thanks for using NetForward! >http://www.netforward.com >v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > >Hi everybody, >Help!!! >Is anyone going from London to Manchester on the 26th for the B&S gigs and >could give me a lift...? >Has anyone any suggestions about cheap b&b accomodations in Manchester or sorry can't help with transport but can offer a place to stay (this goes out to anyone it is a 6 person house and there are only three of us so far). i am a student up here and already have two listees staying with me so the more the merrier???? dan xxxx p.s. i haven't axe murdered anyone for several weeks now and my therapist is impressed with my progress >whatever... >Is there a meet-up in Manchester? >When and Where???!??????????? > ? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 11:09:25 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 11:09:25 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199712051106.LAA02318@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> >1. Does anyone know when The Acid House is coming out and what B&S track is > going to be on the soundtrack? The Acid House Trilogy is due for release in Jan/Feb 98, the last I heard. The B&S track on the soundtrack is called 'Soft Touch'. You might also be interested to hear that Irvine Welsh just finished his new novel a week or two ago and it's at the publishers now. Finally I have one question, will the track 'Rhoda' finally appear on the 'Just A Modern Rock Song' EP? Cheers, John. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 11:06:46 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:06:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: my mate - minimal B&S content - you have been warned Message-ID: <199712051050.KAA10715@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> All , I was shocked and horrified when I heard that certain members of our favourite pop combo prefered Vegemite to Marmite. I was poised to resign from the fan club ; cast out all my records and burn my demented play-group leader's tee-shirt; thankfully I remembered that they make the most wonderfull music I've ever heard so I stepped back from the brink. The Tsimshian Indians of British Columbia have a saying "In the land of Yeast Extract - the Marmite Man is King". Marmite is the food of the Gods - or at least you'd be forgiven for thinking so. In fact it's the only commercially succesfull spin off of the British space program. In the 1950s BASTARD (British Aero-Space Technology And Research Department) were developping a revolutionary yeast-fusion engine. Unfortunately it never got off the ground and British attempts to get a budgerigar in space to mark the coronation of Elizabeth II came to nothing. Eventualy our efforts were superceded by the Russian and American programs who had taken the, at the time, controversial non-yeast approach. But the boffins in the lab did have one result - namely the discovery of Marmite. An interesting footnote here is that the original name for this product was Cock Fun, it only became known as Marmite by the personal intervention of Her Majesty Queen Elizabrth, the Queen Mother. How bizarre is that! xx john ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 10:40:58 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 10:40:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: <2fUIoLA6o9h0Ew3K@elsato97.demon.co.uk> THIS IS A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE B&S GIRL! The list has been cluttered with people asking for Tigermilk. I shall say it again, mail me and I will tape you a copy!!!! Bear in mind I am not ususally this nice its just that B&S MAKE me feel nice the BASTARDS!!!!! I have no idea how they do this but whenever I fell the worst, I can just lisent to B&S and feel sad but calm, like uplifting melancholia. I'd write more but I have to go and drink some orange juice and feed the cat. byee! Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Fri Dec 5 11:47:29 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:47:29 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk In-Reply-To: <2fUIoLA6o9h0Ew3K@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Sarah wrote: > Bear in mind I am not ususally this nice its just that B&S MAKE me feel > nice the BASTARDS!!!!! ... as do you lot, so this is ANOTHER public service announcement! To those trying to unsubscribe (grrr!) please see my WWW page (in the footer to this message)! Don't mail to "sinister at majordomo.net" but to "majordomo at majordomo.net"! And why is everyone being so nice to me? You all coming round to my house or something? Blushing Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Fri Dec 5 12:16:46 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 12:16:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: today's guardian Message-ID: <80256564.0043F652.00@bull.co.uk> (or yesterday's if this mail takes as long to get to the list as the last one did making me look a complete fool in the process as katrina had already answered the same question posed by someone else. actually, making me look like a complete fool doesn't take much anyway...) ****************************** * relevant stuff begins here * ****************************** anyway, jo whiley as fallen for 'if you're feeling sinister' as her record of the year (2nd actually, radiohead was first, the verve was third) despite it being released last year. she says: 'genius music made by people who don't give a fig about fitting into any musical trend' which i think we'd all agree with most of... *********************** * and ends here, sigh * *********************** um, i think i like more of the 'dance' cds they choose above the 'rock' cds. (made me laugh when i bought that autechre cd earlier this year and it had 'soul and dance' on the sticker on the back of it) actually, the whole of today's G2 is worth a read as it goes over their fave videos, books, video games, lps (etc) of the year and they usually have good taste. good timing too seeing as ma is starting to pester me about what i want for christmas. (a sony mzr30 would be nice ma, if you're reading this. i doubt it'll happen though. will end up buying it myself. again) hey, if belle and sebastian were a pantomime which one would it be? andy arse, just seen that 'the children's hour' is on this afternoon and i didn't set the video - shirley maclaine and audrey hepburn as two lesbian teachers... no, behave, it's not how it sounds, it's a classic b&w thing. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjm at xxx.Meikleham Fri Dec 5 13:32:28 1997 From: jjm at xxx.Meikleham (jjm at xxx.Meikleham) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:32:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: monkeys Message-ID: <199712051332.NAA24725@helix.mblab.gla.ac.uk> Has anyone else experienced the strength of feeling against B&S? I have to keep my taped copy of Tigermilk safely locked away to prevent my flat-mates (the monkeys ) from throwing out in front of the no. 8 bus. This bus goes past my flat and turns up into Byres road(glasgow), a frequent place of band member sightings. Riding along on city buses for a hobby may be sad but it also be destructive to prized record collections. My flat was recently broken into and the bastards stole My copy of sinister and all 3 summer eps. Thankfully they my beloved tape. A friend of my flat mate has an original Tigermilk and he had offered to put it onto cd, but the baffon tryed to clean this priceless record with of all things after shave. This did not add anything to the sound quality. It is now in the hands of a chemist friend. Jamie. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 13:18:36 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:18:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: FANZINES!!!! Message-ID: <$dfD7BAs8$h0EwW2@elsato97.demon.co.uk> hi people! I'm writing my zine, and as its being held up for a few various reasons to do with life in general, I want to have some more B&S writings in it, about how they make you feel, what makes them So special, anything concerning them really! So i was wondering...! :) Would anyone like to mail me if they have any B&S writings I could put please? I'd love to have other fans opinions about lets face it, one of the best bands about. please?!?!?!?!!? thank you very much! byee! Sarah *************************** FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE C'MON!PUNCH THE AIR! *************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Fri Dec 5 10:28:33 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 11:28:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: gol! Message-ID: <13283385900123@secrel.com.br> you wrote: >Yes! Yes! Yes! to Belle and Sebastian doing the Scotland World Cup Song. >I have a feeling this is going to be Scotlands best ever World Cup and >with some soaraway single behind them it can only be a glorious summer >for these sons of Rawk (sorry). The first game will be Brazil (my f***** country) and Scotland. Will Scotland have a B&S song as their Word Cup theme ???!! I hope Scotland wins :o) I don't like soccer. I don't like Brazil I don't care who will win the word cup. but with a B&S theme....GOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL !!!!! Ivo A P EScossia :o) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 15:09:20 1997 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:09:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: b&s content Message-ID: <01BD018F.C4443F40@manray.impressions-gallery.com> hello pop-kids! its good to see that b&s content is returning to the list, even if it causes a bit of a ruckus (handbags at 20 paces chaps...) We all get e-mails (especially from lists) that we don't like, but it isn't really that hard to ignore them, is it? there's no need for this flaming business, folks (especially as we are all happy bunnies, aren't we?????) >From: Christopher R Blake >Subject: Sinister: B & S Article > >Perhaps you've all read this but I just came accross it and thought I'd >mention it. The 11/14 issue of Salon contains an article about Belle & >Sebastian written by Nick Hornby. > >http://www.salonmagazine.com >Sorry if this is old news - I've only been subscribed for a week and a >half. > >Chris Don't worry Chris, I posted almost exactly the same message to the list on the 28th November.... and I probably wasn't the first either..... It is a good article anyway, and very complimentary, so check it out if you haven't already. (obligatory non-b&s content follows - stop reading if you're a purist!) I bought the trembling blue stars 7" after hearing about them on the list and its ace! (prefer the song about falling into arms, tho') I also got beth orton's new 'best bit' ep, which is an absolute cracker! She's collaborating with Terry Callier, who is *the* most criminally unlauded soul singer of all, and a bit of a personal hero. He released some amazing albums on Cadet in the 60's/early 70's then had to give up music as a career in order to raise his daughter (sniff!) During the early acid jazz scene in 80's his albums were rediscovered and started to go for big bucks (particularly the wonderful 'What Color is Love') Cadet released a compilation in the early 90's of his best stuff, including the epic 'Dancing Girl', 'What Color is Love' and 'Your gonna miss your Candyman', which starts with the most incredible guitar line (sampled by Urban Species, among others). He was then brought out of obscurity to play a couple of dates at the 100 Club, and then later at the Jazz Cafe and Russ Dewbury's Jazz Bop at the Clapham Grand in 95. I saw him there, and was blown away. He has an amazingly gravelly voice, and sings the most beautiful soulful folk you could ever imagine (which is why B&S fans should check him out). He was also so grateful to be back making a living as a musician after 20-odd years in the wilderness that he cried on stage when he first came on (to rapturous applause and cheers). I later saw him perform at the Concorde in Brighton, and he is now working on a new album. BGP have also re-issued an earlier Prestige album called 'The new folk sound of Terry Callier' (or something) which is well worth hunting down. sorry for this brief sortie into musicology, but the EP is lovely, and he's a bit of a hero, so I couldn't help myself..... So I guess its time to break my duck and say that I'm willing to make a compilation tape featuring best bits of Terry Callier for anyone interested, plus tapes of Tigermilk (of which I have 2 copies!!!) for anyone in the North of England (I'm based in York, for my sins....) I won't tape all of Terry Callier, however, as the Cadet compilation should still be available on CD (and vinyl if your a junkie like me) and the money should really go into his pocket..... 'nuff for now, matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 20:32:01 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 15:32:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Freebee or Frisbee? Message-ID: The Joys of using University/College Equipment ---------------------------------------------- ....because it seems that a lot of listees are part of the education backbone (me included) and therefore using the sites systems to use email then i thought i better mention that they have little time left to get all that is B+S sorted....simply because Xmas holidays are nearly upon us. It seems therefore that talks about the two gigs, meets, travelling, accomodation etc. will need to be finalised sooner rather than later. If many are like me then next Friday will be their last day. It could of course be that i am making presumptions and talking out of my arse but i'm sure some will be affected. Cheers Rich PS....Does this mean the list will be quieter over the festive period? ...or will the mountain of mail be as high as ever when i return from turkey overload? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 15:56:48 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 15:56:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: new to the belle and sebastian site... Message-ID: <34882440.6F0C3455@totalweb.co.uk> ... belle and sebastian orientated magnetic poetry. yeah, so we're now pretty adept at java and have made the fan club site interactive. we hope you like the improvements, and if you submit your poetry to us, you may even see your creative skills become part of the site. any comments? java taking too long? let us know and we'll deal with it. thanks for your time David Kitchen -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club Site lyrics, poetry, ink polaroids, images, merchandise, mail-outs http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 16:27:38 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:27:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Freebee or Frisbee? Message-ID: <199712051611.QAA20656@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> I was disapointed by the lack of frisbee content in this message given the title. But it did make me think... Are there any other Belle and Sebastian-loving Ultimate Frisbee players on this list?? We could get a team together for a tournament next year or maybe the indoor season this winter. Call it "Dog on Wheels" or something.... email me privately if you're keen johnnyj at mcmail.com john.johnston at capgemini.co.uk xx john >---------- >From: Richard Banner[SMTP:c9712536 at xxx.uk] >Sent: 05 Dec 1997 20:32 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Freebee or Frisbee? > >The Joys of using University/College Equipment >---------------------------------------------- > >....because it seems that a lot of listees are part of the education >backbone (me included) and therefore using the sites systems to use >email then i thought i better mention that they have little time left >to get all that is B+S sorted....simply because Xmas holidays are >nearly upon us. > >It seems therefore that talks about the two gigs, meets, travelling, >accomodation etc. will need to be finalised sooner rather than later. >If many are like me then next Friday will be their last day. > >It could of course be that i am making presumptions and talking out of >my arse but i'm sure some will be affected. > >Cheers > >Rich > >PS....Does this mean the list will be quieter over the festive period? > ...or will the mountain of mail be as high as ever when i return > from turkey overload? > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Fri Dec 5 16:42:41 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:42:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: looking for something In-Reply-To: <19971204172612.28868.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, DALE COOPER wrote: > i know this does not perain to belle and sebastian however: > > does anyone have a copy of mornington cres. - my life story that they > are wanting to get rid of I would imagine everybody who ever bought it are wanting to get rid of it. Both of them. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Adhokum: n. In commercials, the belief that because the actor is | wearing a white lab coat, he must be an expert ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 16:54:38 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:54:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm feeling sinister! Message-ID: <199712051652.QAA23521@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> God, can people not read! |:-( - For unsubscribing email http://www.majordomo.net/sinister. This is written at the bottom of every email from the list !!!! Sorry to send an angry email, but I've had one to many 'unsubscribe sinister' email. ------------------------ INTERNET MAIL ------------------------ From: JSwinea AOL (http://www.aol.com) Subject: Sinister: remove sinister Date: Thu, 4 Dec 1997 20:29:04 EST --------------------------------------------------------------------------- remove sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 16:54:48 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:54:48 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199712051652.QAA23536@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> >does anyone have a copy of mornington cres. - my life story that they >are wanting to get rid of 'friad not. But I did see them play in Edinburgh a couple of nights ago. They were pretty good, esp. the gorgeous girl playing violin. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ta4091 at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 17:08:54 1997 From: ta4091 at xxx.uk (Dazza) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:08:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #90 Message-ID: <96953DE4119@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> > Judith got herself in trouble down at choir practice, > Sporting a pink cassock homespun from spandex. > Kissed the warden's daughter at the back of the vestry - > Something to do while her friends do drugs down the Ministry. > The girl hasn't felt so simply thrilled to be alive > Since she stole some tights from BHS in '85.... Well I think it's pretty funny... > i dont mean to perpetuate what has been called a "flaming" but i think i > object more to the justification of the "song" (with its A-level bullet > point style breakdown of B&S themes) than i ever did to the > parody/pastiche/joke, which just fell on some stoney ground. i > understand it was a joke, but i spend every day of term doing this to > books i love, stripping away their magic with pieces of A-4, and getting > pissed off with them in the process. i wouldn't ever like this to happen > to music i love. Ah, you want to try making love to your favourite books in between those A4 sheets... it is possible! > 1. stand by your failures as you would your successes. > 2. analysis can > 3. sometimes > 4. be > 5. paralysis analysis can sometimes be excelsis (Well its the nearest rhyme I can think of that's positive) Dazza (with lit-student head on) ************ I gave it to Nelly To stick in her belly The leg of the duck The leg of the duck. ************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 16:52:53 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 16:52:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: scary In-Reply-To: <199712051611.QAA20656@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971205165253.00690170@mail.u-net.com> At 04:27 PM 12/5/97 -0000, Johnston, John CT wrote: >email me privately if you're keen > >johnnyj at mcmail.com Now this is getting scary. I am Johnny J too.... Or am I who am I these days is that my email address after all? How many personalities do I have? Can the Sinister list make people schizophrenic? love johnj at seahouses.u-net.com xx ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 17:45:18 1997 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 17:45:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap IN LEEDS (12/12) In-Reply-To: <199712051611.QAA20656@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Message-ID: Hi all Sinisters and Spinisters Is anyone going down to ARAB STRAP gig in LEED'S Joseph Well on 12/12. or is there anyone going down from Bradford itself? Cheers D A N I E L ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 17:30:10 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 17:30:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm dreaming... References: Message-ID: <34883A22.F6A59AF7@totalweb.co.uk> Sven-Olaf Kerouac wrote: > Ooh, it's snowing - I just stood outside for ages and now I'm cold but > happy > > B&S content - erm, something about foxes, I suppose foxes live near our estate and though we havn't seen them for a while we know they're there.if it snows this year we may try and feed them, but only if we can be sure the local dogs don't get there first, besides, wat do foxes eat that can be bought in Sainsbury? > Love you all > > Rob xx david kitchen -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Dec 5 17:33:04 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 17:33:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what sandwiches? References: <3483F37B.2A55@virgin.net> Message-ID: <34883AD0.481D249D@totalweb.co.uk> Katrina at Jeepster wrote: > Laurel Girvan wrote: > > > erm...b&s content?...do you suppose they like marmite? > > well, unlike some british peoples, Stuart & Isobel are more than happy > to taste the Australian version of Marmite, Vegemite which is infinitely > superior! > > cheers, > katrina. i remember that, but i don't remember them liking it! david tapping furiously while katrina has her back turned! ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Fri Dec 5 18:45:03 1997 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 13:45:03 EST Subject: Sinister: most obscure LP I won Message-ID: <1b9cf80f.34884d24@aol.com> Transition LP "Jazz BY Sun Ra Vol.1" outtakes.excerpts.alternate takes test pressing Pete Gianakopoulos ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 00:10:30 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 00:10:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A Jeepster Chat Room... Message-ID: <348897F6.C04AE81D@totalweb.co.uk> . . . exists for all to use. It's just in prep for a test of our IRC abilities. On Tuesday 9th at 9pm UK time we will simulate and test an IRC chat. If all goes well then Belle and Sebastian may join us in a couple of weeks for a proper one. This will only be an effective test if a lot of people turn up. One of us will pretend to be the band and you can question us into oblivion whilst someone else tries to see what control can be exerted to help keep order amoungst the chaos. The Sinister, Fan Club and hopefully Tweenet sites will all reflect how the test will be run closer to the date (probably Monday). So, if you would like to take part in the chat on Tuesday and need a hand getting the software and using IRC then visit the fan club site or Paul's site and follow all the instructions. The fan club site already has download details, an FAQ, how to get started and chat etiquette pages to help you. Read these pages before you go to the chat room to help understand how it will work. Please use the Jeepster room now to get aclimatised to this medium as it will not be available for public use in the run up to the real chat. A second room may be set up for you in the meantime. If you already have software then connect to chat.virgin.net on port 6667. Thanks Katrina House (jeepster recordings and the fan club) David Kitchen (fan club and fan club site) Honey (sinister list and site) Any simple probs, mail the list and we can fill in the gaps in the FAQ and help other people having the same problems. -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Sat Dec 6 00:56:07 1997 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 16:56:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: why so nice Message-ID: On Fri, 5 Dec 1997, Paul wrote: >And why is everyone being so nice to me? You all coming round to my house >or something? >Blushing Paul Well you did offer to have all our babies now, didn't you? ;-))) (someone was bound to say it, so it may as well be me!) -Cheeky Listee ------ nicolina at drizzle.com------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sat Dec 6 03:04:59 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 22:04:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: it was beauitful while it lasted... Message-ID: <199712060304.WAA05938@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear Sinister People, Hello! How ae you this week? Today was a goodday..or a good ending to a bad bit I should say,a feeling of contentmetn and things are resolved..I hope this wil last long,I have rfiends who like to live in conflict,it can get to be a bit much! On the Lamcaque guy..Steve..I would've lie to see thetime, I don't know if this is true..but I heard..when the Manics were first starting out,he asked Richey if they were 'for real,or if it was just an image?' and Richey silenty cut 'FOR REAL' into his arm..I think that would ve shut M.Lamaque up... On recurring themes..it's strange,I will be listening to stories in Belle and Sebastian songs..and they are just sort of lovely,I listen to them but I don't anyalze them,untill a couple days ago..I needed a response for English..so for a quick thing,I did Stars Of Track And Field,and once I started writing about it..a whole slew of other ideas came into my head,its odd...they can be interepreted a lot of ways,I always thought it was sort of Stuart's revenge against classmates in high school (that is another theme,underlying sort of?) but it could also be about those tv evangelists that go oin and preach about God while receiving cheques? 'make a new CULT every day to suit your affairs' soe of the liens don't really fit,but I jsut get the feeling of a bunch of people who are really evil,hide behind a seemingly moral idea or cause....they never know it,because you never show it, (the real side of them?) Geez..I hope I'm not way off here,because I would've really like to have passed that English response.. Talk about my dreams crashing against the rocks...turn out,I actually did get to see my friend from England,for a few hours before he left,I was so excited,going to talk to him about bands,I mention Suede only to be met with a 'SUEDE! GAG' and lots of awful noises..he said he was an Ash and Sleeper fan,I like them too...but,I didn't even mention Belle and Sebastian..don't know what kind of reception that owuld get..but..my dreams were crushed because he told me how awful England was,that I would'nt want to go visit there London is terrible poeple will beat you up and that he's goign to school in Ottawa for good in a year and ahalf,this evil! I don't think he understands..how long I've wanted to go....him. wanting to come here so bad..and me wanting to og there so bad,cruely not funny. kisses, Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sat Dec 6 03:05:30 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 22:05:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: tshirts,regrets,and photos Message-ID: <199712060305.WAA05948@Vector.inexpress.net> > Dear sweet and sugary people, > Hellomi hope you are all wel..oh I'm just slightly sad,over one thing...a > boy who went to school with me in elementary moved to England,and little did > I know I would develop into adoring and unable to resist all things English > (especially englishmen)and he came back,oh! While others would be like 'You > have accnet!' I would be.. 'Oh......all the bands you have! I love you! I > love your bands'he is leaving tomorrow..*sniff sniff* never gto to see him! > Oh,I didn't know there WERE Belle and Sebastian tshirts,sweet! Where can I > find? > I'm confused over pictures to do....for Media class I have tot ake > pictures from the following categorys..Portraits (butt he subject can't be > looking at the camera..it is preferred of their back..hands..feet.....) > Landscapes and Reflections.Need some arty shots,if only some of you on this > list were nearby!I'm running into porblems,most o f the guys I know are > silly,so I took a picture of my friends hands against a tree and it was a > bad moment...ok i very 'schoolgirl' but for some reason..these guys got the > idea I come home and become dark kinky mistress of the night or > soemthing..so my friends hands had handcuffs around her (the metal strikes > good in black and white pictures..it gives it a 'gritty' feeling)...*sigh* > Need some good photos! mmm,kahula stuff is tasty for my mouth....another sad > note,my kitten was given away today,but she will be n a better place... > > what's this pop quiz sounds interesting! Have one in Rupert... > other notes,some drunken religious man last night told me I will luck out > with people of 'S' and 'J' names.... > > a a poor art student] > >dont delay help me today! > > I'll help you! If only i could be helped now... > > > >* please answer these six questions (say whatever you like) > > and send it back to me. > > tell me things and stuff... > > i promise love and goodwill to anyone who does reply. > > > >record shops and cultural enviroments. > >- --------------------------------------------- > > > >1) what do you people like about certain record shops ? > > Beautiful boys that like Belle and Sebastian,and indie...lovely > bands..second hand but in shape,smallish not overwhelming,posters on the > walla..fnazines around,interesting music..nice chatting boys that talk with > you abuot the band > > > >2) what is important (size of shop, people who work there, location, > >in store music, decor , listen booths ... ) ? > Size of shop is nice..spacious..but not scary....not squeezed...oh > yes,lovely boys with beauitufl eyes who touch your arm softly when talking > about Belle and Sebsatian's 3,,,6,,,9 Seconds of Light..who order things in > for you without asking...decor! NIce big posters of under-known bands or > nice movie poses. posters..listen booths! Yes! Good! With you to make > selection of what you want to listen to and not having to wait...no bitchy > girls who are arty and think they are miss thang trying to steal her man,or > 'above you' people who work at record shops hwo think only whatTHEY listen > ot good..music,well I was impressed when i was at one store and I sorta > wrinkled my nose at some heavy industrial thrash they were playing (not that > it's bad..but it scaree me) and suddenly switch to God! Show Me Magic! Free > fanzines and college newspapers around..list of upcoming cds.. > > > >3) where do you shop (hmv virgin tower indie shops) ? > > SPinables *sigh* oh be still my heart.....Record Runner (more to talk and > get free fanzines) and HMV...a LONG TIME AGO..only if they sell thing much > cheaper..I don't like it in their..it smell funny and they can never order > in my singles for me.... > > > >4) is it only price led ? > No..if I say see something rare Heavens,I buy it, (ask my friend spent 45.00 > on Mansun then it came out dosemtically for 12.99!) But I am cautious as to > spenindg a lott on something i may not like...I don't have enough to share > the wealth...except I have a weakness for suede singles! > > > >5) do you buy records tapes or cd's? > > Yes..I used to only buy tapes,with ocassional vinyl..but now it's cds..they > are just the besty overall...oh,vinyl is quite lovely though,the look..the > feel... > > > >6) singles and/or albums ? > > Suede singles! DEfinitley..I buy a lot of singles with a fantastic band > thatis new...so I don't have a whole crap load to catch up to...or because > they are os good the b-sides sustain me...Albums,ouiiiiii i mean,where would > we be withot albums? > > > > '''i'm about to lose control and I think i like it''' > You're all so loverly,I have to go... > xx Genevieve ;) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Sat Dec 6 03:10:32 1997 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 13:10:32 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #91: vegemite vs marmite References: <199712060016.AAA01327@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3488C228.7DD3@gil.com.au> > From: "Johnston, John CT" > All , > I was shocked and horrified when I heard that certain members of our > favourite pop combo prefered Vegemite to Marmite. You can't berate them for showing superior taste! :) Perhaps the little blurb at the end of each mailing should be changed to include (and this may only be understood by a few of us, unless vegemite advertising has gone global)... - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . We're all happy little vegemites as bright as bright can be.... Aren't we? > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- shelley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Sat Dec 6 03:10:29 1997 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 13:10:29 +1000 Subject: Sinister: fox in the, um, grass Message-ID: <3488C225.5DBE@gil.com.au> all this talk of foxes paused poignantly below street lamps is just making me envious of never being able to witness this 8th wonder of the world. i was at a BBQ last night though, and someone at the park we were picnic-ing at had a puppy called sebastian ... and he kind of looked like a fox too (the dog, not the boy) shelley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sat Dec 6 02:48:48 1997 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC) Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:48:48 EST Subject: Fwd: Re: Re: Sinister: most obscure LP I own Message-ID: <866c4bd7.3488bd12@aol.com> -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: OLDSCHREC Subject: Re: Re: Sinister: most obscure LP I won Date: Fri, 5 Dec 1997 21:45:44 EST Size: 790 URL: From itstrue at xxx.net Sat Dec 6 03:20:07 1997 From: itstrue at xxx.net (Reid) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 22:20:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Introduction & a truckload of questions Message-ID: <3488C467.203A@earthlink.net> Hello. I've just joined this list, just a few short days after learning that it existed (like I'd hoped) and just a few short months after finding Belle and Sebastian. The main reason I joined is to ask questions, which I have a ton of. If anyone has the answers, I would greatly appreciate them. 1) I bought the "Dog On Wheels" single the other day (they had three-count 'em-THREE copies in a record store in downtown Chapel Hill. I take back everything bad I ever said about no good imports in North Carolina!). So I'm listening to "The State That I Am In", and I notice a huge scratch noise in the line "I gave myself to sin". So, of course, I took it back to the store, but the other two copies had the scratch too. Now, I couldn't not have it, so I just have to deal with that scratch. The question is: Is this something that other people have found on their copies? Or is this just a bad batch? Should I even be thinking about going through the trouble to try and get another one? 2) B&S's singer is Stuart Murdoch, right? 3) Did anyone else swoon when they heard about that B&S show with Magnetic Fields (who are great on album and unbelievably beautiful live) in a courtyard in Barcelona? It's such a gorgeous thought, I have a hard time believing that it ever happened. Was anyone on the list there? Was it as beautiful as I'm imagining? Okay, so the questions aren't springing to mind just now...But I'm sure some more will pop up. ...I'm looking forward to this. -Reid -- "If the editors of the Manhattan Argus see fit to publish the rantings of a disordered mind, then perhaps they will see fit to publish this letter!" J. Reid Dossinger (Chapel Hill, NC) itstrue at earthlink.net or (alternate) itstrue at mailcity.com AUTOFAC reviews: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/8002 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamie.huxley at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 09:13:29 1997 From: jamie.huxley at xxx.uk (Jamie Huxley) Date: Sat, 6 Dec 1997 09:13:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: i think a few of my more juvenile internal college Emails may have been sent into the list by accident, thanks to a friend of mine interfering with my account. sorry Jimmy Jazz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Fri Dec 5 22:47:40 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Fri, 05 Dec 1997 23:47:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Digest response Message-ID: <3488848C.721A4D2@colon.net.> Blimey! Four digests to plough the fields and scatter through, so this is a bit messy. Not to worry.... First...Led Zep are macho thoughtless unnchallenging guff...I disagree. I like Led Zep, and I'm certainly not very macho, nor do I want to be. Thoughtless? Not at all. They've got runes. Unchallenging? Here, my wife's just gone to the West Indies.... Guff? I'm afraid there's no arguing with that. I guff profusely, Led Zep or no Led Zep. Was it Agassi and Macenroe who did a cover version of "Rock'n'Roll"? Some tennis players anyway. To misquote Duke, I like Led Zep because they sound fucking great. Thanks Andy for the Top Cat websites, you dirty bugger. Your glasses'll steam up. Scott's Porridge Oats. The Quaker has a similar effect on me. His smile is every bit as enigmatic as the Mona Lisa's. B&S doing a Curtis Mayfield song? Which one? I like Curtis even more than I like Led Zep. My favourite song is "Don't Worry, If There's Hell Below, We're All Gonna Go" Because we are. For the same reason I like "Trash" by Suede. Tag and Keith together? You didn't make a video recording of this monumental outing, did you? Did I dream it or did someone on this list talk about Salaryman? They're performing here soon (on the day of a projected general strike, the scabs) and I'm wondering if it'll be worth dragging myself away from Andy's website for. All this talk of end of year lists reminds me of what a treat I'm in for. I'm sad enough to put an X by the one's I've got and congratulate myself for having them, and make a mental note of the others in case I can snap them up sometime. I still don't know why "Saint Julian" didn't make it. It doesn't seem to matter for most lists whether the album was released that year or not. Or does it? I'll shut up now. Two more digests to go. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Sat Dec 6 13:47:23 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 13:47:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Salaryman In-Reply-To: <3488848C.721A4D2@colon.net.> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971206134723.00698554@mail.u-net.com> >Did I dream it or did someone on this list talk about >Salaryman? They're performing here soon (on the day of a >projected general strike, the scabs) and I'm wondering if >it'll be worth dragging myself away from Andy's website for. yes yes yes yes yes yes GO AND SEE SALARYMAN. they are very good JJ xx ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 15:44:24 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 15:44:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #91: vegemite vs marmite References: <199712060016.AAA01327@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> <3488C228.7DD3@gil.com.au> Message-ID: <348972D8.E2DCD227@totalweb.co.uk> shelley wrote: > > From: "Johnston, John CT" > > > All , > > I was shocked and horrified when I heard that certain members of our > > favourite pop combo prefered Vegemite to Marmite. > > You can't berate them for showing superior taste! :) > Here here! > Perhaps the little blurb at the end of each mailing should be changed to > include (and this may only be understood by a few of us, unless vegemite > advertising has gone global)... > > - > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > > > > > . We're all happy little vegemites as bright as bright can be.... Aren't we? > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- just for all of you non-aussies out there, it is a jingle from a Vegemite ad, and 'cos i know you're all dying to know how the rest of it goes ..We're happy little Vegemite's as bright as bright can beWe all enjoy our Vegemite for breakfast, lunch and tea Our Mother says we're growing stronger every single week Because we *love* our Vegemite We all *adore* our Vegemite It puts a rose in every cheek! Shelley, can't wait til you come over and we can post us singing it together onto the list! Cheers, Katrina. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 15:56:45 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 15:56:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Freebee or Frisbee? Message-ID: <348975BD.5D00D20@totalweb.co.uk> Richard Banner wrote: > The Joys of using University/College Equipment > ---------------------------------------------- > > ....because it seems that a lot of listees are part of the education > backbone (me included) and therefore using the sites systems to use > email then i thought i better mention that they have little time left > to get all that is B+S sorted....simply because Xmas holidays are > nearly upon us. > It seems therefore that talks about the two gigs, meets, travelling, > accomodation etc. will need to be finalised sooner rather than later. If > many are like me then next Friday will be their last day. On the mail-outs, we told everyone that the details for the meet-ups etc. would be available after the 15th if people phone us on 0181 560 1815 b/n 8pm and 11pm (just as long as it's not during Eastenders, or any Friday night comedy on BBC2 or C4). Hopefully this will help those who lose their internet access. Why not use an internet cafe instead, or do your accounts get closed down too? Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 15:56:45 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 15:56:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Freebee or Frisbee? Message-ID: <348975BD.5D00D20@totalweb.co.uk> Richard Banner wrote: > The Joys of using University/College Equipment > ---------------------------------------------- > > ....because it seems that a lot of listees are part of the education > backbone (me included) and therefore using the sites systems to use > email then i thought i better mention that they have little time left > to get all that is B+S sorted....simply because Xmas holidays are > nearly upon us. > It seems therefore that talks about the two gigs, meets, travelling, > accomodation etc. will need to be finalised sooner rather than later. If > many are like me then next Friday will be their last day. On the mail-outs, we told everyone that the details for the meet-ups etc. would be available after the 15th if people phone us on 0181 560 1815 b/n 8pm and 11pm (just as long as it's not during Eastenders, or any Friday night comedy on BBC2 or C4). Hopefully this will help those who lose their internet access. Why not use an internet cafe instead, or do your accounts get closed down too? Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 16:02:24 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 16:02:24 +0000 Subject: [Fwd: Sinister: 13th Note] References: <3487EDB7.BD0D694A@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <34897710.779909ED@totalweb.co.uk> > It seems The Strap are playing at The Attic in Edinburgh on Tuesday the > 16th with Jeepster signings Snow patrol. Unfortunately the woeful Pilotcan > are on the bill above the B&S labelmates. Would anybody be going to that > particular shindig. What are Snow patrol like then? - More info Katrina. > > Byee, > Paul snow patrol (please remember, no capitals :) ) are a bit Nirvana/Ash type rocky. Full of energy, Gary is always bouncing around, the music is pretty cool for it's "type" ... nothing like B&S though. I really like them, and that's NOT just because I work for the record company! Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 15:58:19 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 15:58:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: manchester on pbs References: <3487ED32.E546DB7F@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <3489761B.4CDEEC9F@totalweb.co.uk> > Subject: Sinister: manchester on pbs > Date: Thu, 04 Dec 1997 10:23:31 -0500 > From: Damon Seils > To: sinister at majordomo.net > References: <8668FD7655 at east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> > > Is it true that the Manchester gigs are being broadcast by PBS? If so, > are they being shown in the US? > > Anyone know?? > > (damon) Umm, no they're not. There won't (to my knowledge) be any filming taking place. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Sat Dec 6 16:46:33 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 17:46:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Chit-chat Message-ID: <34898169.8C0A44D6@colon.net.> I successfully identified a Rainbow track in a bar recently, and everyone agreed with me thAT "sINCE YOU bEEN gONE" (whoops, my shift appears to have momentarily locked. That'll be the Marmite) is a top slice of pop/rock splendidness, and that Grahame Bonnet, the first rocker to be named after a car part, strode the narrow world of pop and rock like a collosus in mirror shades. Alcohol may have played a part in my colleagues' agreement on this point. If I'm not mistaken, the release of SYBG was roughly the same time as "Dippity Day" by The Smurfs. Those of you with access to the Guiness Book of Hit Singles might be kind enough to check that out for me. This has been brought on by a very clear memory of the fattest kid in school dancing around the youth club to Father Abraham's finest, and SYBG was always on the school jukebox. Great days, Eddie, great days... I want that Sun Ra record. The most obscure record I own is "Neurone Music" by The Deep Freeze Mice. It's a twelve inch, which is part 33 and a third rpm and part 45. The B side is devoted to a Yoko Ono style sound collage. I bought it secondhand many years ago, and I'm buggered if I know why. I enjoyed Matt's piece about Terry Callier and shall be writing to him to apply for a tape forthwith. The song writing idea was fine by me, and I hope Nick(?) no longer feels that he's had the stuffing knocked out of him, rearranged, or in any way disturbed. A man's stuffing is his own private kingdom. Ivo, you must be the only Brazillian not kicking cocnuts about on Copacabana beach in the hope of being signed up by Barry Manilow's scouts. I'm looking forward to ScotlAND AGAINST bRAZIL (there it goes again), I have a thing about Brazilian footballers. I dragged myself out of the house in a flu induced stupor to see Bebeto playing for Deportivo La Coruña. He didn't do much. Ronaldo was jolly entertaining last year. He looks like a potato. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 18:32:23 1997 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 18:32:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: Chit-chat In-Reply-To: <34898169.8C0A44D6@colon.net.> Message-ID: On Sat, 06 Dec 1997 17:46:33 +0100, PM - AU said: << everyone agreed with me thAT "sINCE YOU bEEN gONE" is a top slice of pop/rock splendidness, and that Grahame Bonnet, the first rocker to be named after a car part, strode the narrow world of pop and rock like a collosus in mirror shades. >> No disagreement here! Graham Bonnet was what Jarvis Cocker would love to be! The one Rainbow LP which GB sang on ("Down to Earth") will probably be the only record from my *extremely* early youth which will come with me when I move house tomorrow. You want B&S content? OK - I'd love to see B&S play at Donnington next year. A bit unfair on the band maybe, but imagine the reaction - the stunned silence. Get 'em young I say - those pimply pre-teens will be the indie-kids of tomorrow. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Dec 6 22:40:17 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 06 Dec 1997 22:40:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: manchester Message-ID: <3489D451.D3D9F820@totalweb.co.uk> we've just been phoned by a group of four people (1 boy, 3 girls) who are stuck for accomodation for manchester. if anyone can help with either the married couple or the sisters and has spare space for a combo of two or all four then please mail us personally and we will give you their phone number. your help is greatly appreciated. thanks david (fan club) -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gleng at xxx.com Sun Dec 7 01:19:50 1997 From: gleng at xxx.com (gordon glen) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 09:19:50 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap Message-ID: <3489F9B6.96066271@hkstar.com> Hearing so many people on the site talking about AS does anyone know any site where I can listen to any of their stuff. I'm in Hong Kong and finding non mainstream music is not easy (understatement). To the previous correspondent who said he was the only suit on the list, he's not, there's two of us now. Gordon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Sat Dec 6 23:08:59 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 00:08:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bossa Nova Message-ID: <02085989008652@secrel.com.br> you wrote: >Ivo, you must be the only Brazillian not kicking cocnuts >about on Copacabana beach in the hope of being signed up by >Barry Manilow's scouts. What ? Do you like Tom Jobim ? Hmmm...Belle & Sebastian could cover a Bossa nova song ,but in PORTUGUESE. Everything but the Girl did that drum'n'bass cover..and...i liked it. but don't tell anyone i like it.... Everything but the Girl is boring....i prefer the "second sinister-list band" i mean, Erasure :o) (No i don't !!!!!!!!! Depeche Mode *WAS* better) *Dog on wheels* has a Spanish "feeling" or am i mad ? A B&S song with a Brazilian "feeling" could be nice. (Don't forget Stereolab,Pram,Siesta Records Bands...and some many others) French music and Bossa Nova are so LOVELY ! (Brigit Bardot and Tom Jobim are so COOL, Don't you think so ?) Someone told me that Brett Anderson loves a Brazilian singer called Marisa Monte (He has a Brazilian friend living in London,i think...) God ! I like Suede.... but Brett has a bad taste for music. I mean, Marisa Monte,Raissa,Strangelove..... I hope he does not like Belle & Sebastian ! :o) Ivo A P Escossia "Um barquinho e um violao esse amor e uma cancao...." "Olha que coisa mais linda mais cheia de graca e essa menina que vem e que passa...." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Sun Dec 7 12:27:43 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 97 04:27:43 PST Subject: Sinister: peanuts Message-ID: hey. i was at work tonight and i was talking to this guy who i don't know really well and while he went to the bathroom i stuck in 3,6,9, and went straight to my favorite song.....put the book back. he came out and he said who's this? and i said it's belle and sebastian, the best thing to happen to music ever. do you like it? and he said (here's where i gotta quote) "it sounds like something you'd imagine charlie brown would listen to. i like it" and i thought about it. and dammit, if he ain't right. i started picturing charlie brown shows in my head (my favorite = when they go to france), and i could very easily hear belle and sebastian in the background and picture ol charles sitting in his room going "good grief" and then putting on fox in the snow or something. plus the beginning of seeing other people sounds like the vince guaraldi trio. any thoughts on the connection between peanuts and b&s ? -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Sun Dec 7 07:52:51 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 02:52:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: peanuts References: Message-ID: <348A55D3.4E93@interaccess.com> bradford wrote: > any thoughts on the connection between peanuts and b&s ? Brad, you're daft ;) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Sun Dec 7 11:48:09 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 11:48:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Chatty Sinisterines Message-ID: Hey readers. You'll have seen David's mail about the chat room. I've met a few people in there, but just to say: if you've come and found noone there, don't be disheartened - you might have seen alter-ego little robot, HoneyBot, in the corner and thought it was me, and got annoyed when she didn't reply, but she's a bit quiet. I should also add, to be fair to you, that Bot is there just to log the room just now, just to find out what the interest is - hopes that's OK with anyone who comes. So - well keep coming and drop me an email if anyone wants to meet there sometime today or tomorrow. I'll try to hang around today at about 6pm GMT if anyone wants some inane chatter. With a bit of luck we'll all transmute into entirely electronic personalities and not have to worry about Marmite again. I'd really like to know what the interest is going to be for a band chat - it'll help us decide how to organise it. Oh, and if anyone's having trouble - well get in touch with me or David, we'll try and sort you out. Hmm that's it. It's always quiet on Sunday mornings :) Paul (aka HoneyChile) P.S. Hi Ian :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paulf at xxx.uk Sun Dec 7 12:00:19 1997 From: paulf at xxx.uk (Paul Forsyth) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 12:00:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S gigs, Mancunian Hostel In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Here is some info on the Youth Hostel in Manchester, right in the centre I believe, and its sounds quite good but cheap! When I phoned up the single rooms were all gone but they are predominantly a 4-bedroom place. At the time of the gigs the hostel is fairly quiet so there is still loads of space left. I'm looking for B&S people to share with. Please email and we can arrange it! Paul > > http://www.yha-england-wales.org.uk/hostels/manchester.html > > Here is what they say, > > > Manchester Youth Hostel, > Potato Wharf, > Castlefield, > Greater Manchester M3 4NB > Tel: (+44) 0161 839 9960 > Fax: (+44) 0161 835 2054 > OVERNIGHT PRICES > > Under 18 - 8.65 pounds > Adult - 12.50 pounds > > "A comfortable stay at the heart of the vibrant > Castlefield area of central Manchester." > > State of the art architecture makes this Youth Hostel part of the > vibrant Castlefield area of Manchester. The Hostel offers modern > and comfortable accommodation in mostly 4 bedded rooms (some > twins) all with ensuite facilities. Premium rooms are available > for an extra charge and include the added facility of a TV, a > table and chairs and tea and coffee making facilitiy. the Hostel > is fully accessible for people with disabilities. > > The Canalside Restaurant serves delicious meals with adventurous > daily menus. Everything is on the Hostel doorstop - quite > literally! The Granada Studios Tour, the Museum of science and > Industry, Manchester United Football Club Tour and Museum, as > well as numerous pubs, clubs and of course shops are never more > than 15 minutes away! What's more we're open 24 hours a day so > you can enjoy the city at night time too! The Hostel is very > popular with groups during the school term time and when sporting > events are taking place. ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mahmed at xxx.uk Sun Dec 7 12:37:28 1997 From: mahmed at xxx.uk (Mussadiq Ahmed) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 12:37:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: peanuts References: Message-ID: <348A9888.78BE@meto.gov.uk> bradford wrote: > plus the beginning of seeing other people sounds like the vince guaraldi trio. > > any thoughts on the connection between peanuts and b&s ? > -brad Spot on. Since I've been on the list, you are the 2nd person to mention the Peanuts connection. While browsing my 'The Rolling Stone album guide', I came across Vince Guaraldi. When it mentioned that it was he who wrote the piano-based jazz soundtracks for the Peanuts in the 60s, memories came flooding back of watching Charlie Brown cartoons on weekday mornings during the Summer holidays. It was the music that had a lasting impression on me, that Summery, mellow, laid-back piano supplemented with simple, but elegant drum and bass (the jazz variety, of course). Snoopy in his shades was, for me aged 11, the epitome of ultra-beatnik, jazz-coolness, hip-swinging daddy-o standing out like a beacon in squaresville. Of course, Guraldi's music helped to consolidate that pole position. A few days later, I was the owner of "A boy called Charlie Brown - music from the tv special" by The Vincent Guraldi Trio. The music was as good, if not better, than my memory recalled from my childhood. This is an excellent jazz album and all homes should have one. The jazz snobs usually turn their noses at Vince, because he wrote and played, shock-horror, melodic, memorable, recognizable tunes that the public enjoyed. Give me an enjoyable, uplifting lp over a challenging, experimental, "hmmm-strokey-strokey-chin-chin" effort any day. A few months later, I was browsing in HMV Reading one Sunday and Vince Guraldi came on the stereo playing the most gorgeous piano intro. So I thought until Lou Reed began to sing about his confused adolescence and sexual experimentation. This turned out to be my first ever encounter with Belle and Sebastian and "seeing other people". I bought the cd and ,ahem, never looked back. If you are interested in sampling Vince Guraldi, visit your local HMV and search for the above cd in the jazz section. Then ask an assistant that you would like to listen to the album and request track 1 (can't remember the name) and "Linus and Lucy" (track 6, I think). You will be captivated and will walk away with the album. Don't bother with Virgin, they've never heard of Vince and their assistants are truly incompetent in operating the computer database. Mussadiq ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sun Dec 7 13:41:17 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 07 Dec 1997 13:41:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: chat room Message-ID: <348AA77D.FEE2638E@totalweb.co.uk> i've updated the site to be a little clearer the original pages were just slapped together so if you had problems, this should solve it thanks david -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Sun Dec 7 17:03:33 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 11:03:33 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: peanuts=piano? In-Reply-To: <348A55D3.4E93@interaccess.com> References: Message-ID: I've found that the opening bars to the album version of "Seeing Other People" are rather reminiscent of Schroeder's rollicking piano playing. Anyone agree? ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "I just can't find the time to write my mind the way I want it to read." --Wilco ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nnorland at xxx.edu Sun Dec 7 17:15:33 1997 From: nnorland at xxx.edu (Ned Norland) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 12:15:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: peanuts=piano? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Amanda Bergman wrote: > I've found that the opening bars to the album version of "Seeing Other > People" are rather reminiscent of Schroeder's rollicking piano playing. > Anyone agree? yah, like when i said the same thing in july while we were playing frisbee unsucessfully at the park... :) i don't really have time to write, i'm currently procrastinating... i haven't read email since wednesday morning... must write papers... -ned =============================================== -nednorland nnorland at eden.rutgers.edu http://members.tripod.com/~nnorland/index.html julie christie the rumours are true-yo la tengo =============================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Sun Dec 7 22:45:51 1997 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Sun, 7 Dec 1997 17:45:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Obscure Records I own Message-ID: <01BD0337.F6877900@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> Well I own a bootleg white label Tigermilk LP.... Before you Jeepster guys start flaming me and removing me from the list. I want you to know I'm just kidding. Anyhow, real records I own: A Black Tambourine single with two picture sleeves. Re-Creation by The Creation (a reissue of their more obscure stuff) A slowdive Flexi A Caff Single (the Field Mice one) A sha-la-la flexi (the one with the Orchids and the Sea Urchins) Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Dec 8 11:43:09 1997 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:43:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: If You're Feeling Remotely Bored. Message-ID: <01BD03CE.76061BA0@pc7628> Dear all, No B&S content I'm afraid....most appalling weekend of over-indulgence. But whilst attempting to participate in a pub-quiz, this rather good question came up....so if your totally bored try this : What word comes next in this sequence : Aid; Nature; World; July; Element; Sense; ? I'm sure this is a piece of cake to you all (there may even be several acceptable answers) but try drinking half-a-dozen pints of Cidermaster first. -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gar at xxx.uk Mon Dec 8 13:04:11 1997 From: gar at xxx.uk (Gordon A Rogers) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:04:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Navigator Message-ID: Just sitting here listening to Navigator on my stereo and wondered if anyone else had discovered these gems from Norwich ? If anyone has anymore info I would be grateful. Compilation just changed to Mogwai (which fits perfectly). - Gordon _________________________________ Gordon Rogers Room 7 Flat DF St Peter Street Aberdeen AB24 3HU email : gar at csd.abdn.ac.uk phone : (01224) 637 430 "You Must Think First Before You Move" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9503594b at xxx.uk Mon Dec 8 13:43:06 1997 From: 9503594b at xxx.uk (Julia Mary Brown) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:43:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Youth Hostel Message-ID: <407549975F6@student.gla.ac.uk> Just want to say I'm going to be staying at the youth hostel in Manchester too. I think Paul Forsyth posted the info on it, so I won't bother. Not that my computer skills extend to giving what its website says anyway. Paul asked if anyone wanted to meet and stay there, and as I hope to be going with him despite knowing practically nothing about him, which is cool- a bus/train journey fron Glasgow should solve that!!- you could mail me too-I'm scared of not knowing anyone, and would like it a lot if you wanted to chat a bit before hand. Sorry to be such a wimp! Love Julia (studiously ignoring the fact that only a ticket for the Sunday gig arrived this morning, and Manchester Picadilly Records, or whatever, fobbed,a rather histerical me, off saying the other should have been in the post too. Second post, please, please, please. And why not the same envelope?) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Dec 8 13:20:37 1997 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:20:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Peanuts Message-ID: <01BD03DC.139719C0@pc7628> Who give's a monkey's who came up with it first...the images this conjures up and I've had going through my mind this lunchtime have had me p***ing myself with laughter. It is so accurate, and, but for a major royalties bill, would be a wonderful basis for a future B&S promo-vid. -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.Al-Bader at xxx.uk Mon Dec 8 13:56:28 1997 From: S.Al-Bader at xxx.uk (Al-Bader,S) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 13:56:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister:If You're Feeling Remotely Bored Message-ID: <1877159F4F0AD11196FB0000F8031916A353F7@IBM7.pc.lse.ac.uk> heaven, or seal :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com Mon Dec 8 14:01:08 1997 From: Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com (Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:01:08 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Christmas Peanuts Message-ID: <85256567.00522AC6.00@v2music.com> I just came into work and put my Christmas Charlie Brown CD on, so imagine my surprise that everyone is writing about the similarities between B&S and Vince Guaraldi! The Xmas CD is on Fantasy Records and is called "A Charlie Brown Christmas" by the Vince Guaraldi Trio and has all the songs on the TV special. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eng7scj at xxx.UK Mon Dec 8 15:25:50 1997 From: eng7scj at xxx.UK (S.C. JAYAWARDENA) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 15:25:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: B+S Manc. gigs - ANYONE GETTING THE TRAIN FROM LONDON? Message-ID: <14853C40D7A@arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> hey there, this is a bit of an urgent message. i desperately want to go to the manchester gigs obviously, and i have my tickets, but my ever-so-slightly over-protective mother won't let me travel on the train alone from london despite the fact that i am meeting friends when i get to manchester. she reckons the carriages will all be empty because it's christmas (? - don't ask me...) so i am basically looking for people who will be getting the train from london to manchester either duiring the day on friday or on saturday morning, so that i can tell my mother i will be perfectly safe and she won't try and stop me going. PLEASE e-mail me NOW if you can help me out, because i am only at this address until FRIDAY 12th DECEMBER. cheers LOADS. samanthi jayawardena. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Mon Dec 8 12:51:04 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 12:51:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: christmas gigs attendees Message-ID: <80256567.004A5390.00@bull.co.uk> well, the names seem to have stopped trickling in now so i guess it's time to post this... saturday 27th december: andrew dean + 1 (andrew.dean at bull.net) y honey + 3 (honey at Majordomo.net) m Nathan Howie (N.J.Howie at sms.ed.ac.uk) y fiona (ENG7FHS at ARTS-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK) y tag (mctag at mcmail.com) y laura (leh at st-andrews.ac.uk) y Stuart Gardiner (skg21 at hermes.cam.ac.uk) y david nicholl (davenicoll at aol.com) y pam berry (pam_berry at wascp.com) y katrina (jeepster.uk at virgin.net) y david (bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk) y Matt Kellie (mk at memsolve.co.uk) y Anne Roels (aroels at epf.fr) y greg (u7k88 at keele.ac.uk) y soozy kate dornan mark (mark at avnet.co.uk) sunday 28th december: andrew dean + 2? (andrew.dean at bull.net) y rob b (rewb2 at hermes.cam.ac.uk) y Nathan Howie (N.J.Howie at sms.ed.ac.uk) y charlotte (charlotte.hall at smlawpub.co.uk) y Stephen Troussé (poetryplace2 at easynet.co.uk) y fiona (ENG7FHS at ARTS-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK) y tag (mctag at mcmail.com) y Stuart Gardiner (skg21 at hermes.cam.ac.uk) y duke and duchess of harringay (tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk) y chris worth (pma97cw at sheffield.ac.uk) y katrina (jeepster.uk at virgin.net) y david (bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk) y Matt Kellie (mk at memsolve.co.uk) y Anne Roels (aroels at epf.fr) y Ian Turton (buffalo at easynet.co.uk) y Richard Banner (c9712536 at wlv.ac.uk) soozy creamcheese kate dornan mark (mark at avnet.co.uk) (17 for saturday and 20 for sunday, not counting any +3s or whatever...) and it looks like everyone's up for a meeting beforehand (nothing better to do in manchester i guess...) if you have any additions then, er, keep them to yourselves! no, send them to me (andrew.dean at bull.net) and i'll add them. cheers andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Mon Dec 8 16:32:49 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:32:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Bossa Nova In-Reply-To: <02085989008652@secrel.com.br> Message-ID: i'm sorry about the lack of official content, but i had to respond to the brazilian who thinks everything but the girl is boring. how can you say that about love not money, i think that's a great album with some brilliant tracks. oh, and i have to revise my most obscure album, i just remembered one (see, that's how obscure it is, i forgot it) it's called buckethead, by the minnow buckets. yeah, they're pretty terrible--when i told my dad that they "grow on you," he said "so does mold." to nick, i don't mean to drag this out, but i think your song idea was a lovely joke. sorry about the flame. love, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Tue Dec 9 04:55:06 1997 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 20:55:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: peanuts Message-ID: >i've always thought the intro to seeing other people sounded like vince, >and i've had numerous other people say so as well. just to substantiate >the b&s/peanuts connection. ;) > >laurel I always thought the into sounded like the Peanuts theme....I've always called Christopher "Schroeder" because of it....I don't think he got it tho....He was always sort of confused about why I was calling him "Schroeder"! Guess it's an American thing...Mainly. ta- beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Mon Dec 8 17:52:01 1997 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 17:52:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bossa Nova In-Reply-To: References: <02085989008652@secrel.com.br> Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19971208175201.4b8fe5f2@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> At 11:32 08/12/97 -0500, Laurel Girvan wrote: > >i'm sorry about the lack of official content, but i had to respond to the >brazilian who thinks everything but the girl is boring. how can you say >that about love not money, i think that's a great album with some >brilliant tracks. > >oh, and i have to revise my most obscure album, i just remembered one >(see, that's how obscure it is, i forgot it) it's called buckethead, by >the minnow buckets. yeah, they're pretty terrible--when i told my dad >that they "grow on you," he said "so does mold." > >to nick, i don't mean to drag this out, but i think your song idea was >a lovely joke. sorry about the flame. > >love, >laurel > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Mon Dec 8 19:56:25 1997 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 11:56:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: If You're Feeling Remotely Bored Message-ID: Answer = Heaven. (first aid, second nature, third world, fourth of july, fifth element, sixth sense, seventh heaven.) "Does this mean that I'm getting boring?" I MUST work now. - Nicole On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Adrian wrote: >What word comes next in this sequence : >Aid; Nature; World; July; Element; Sense; ? >I'm sure this is a piece of cake to you all (there may even be several = >acceptable answers) but try drinking half-a-dozen pints of Cidermaster = >first. ------ nicolina at drizzle.com ------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Mon Dec 8 17:39:47 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 18:39:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bossa Nova/EBG/Frente. Message-ID: <20394703106059@secrel.com.br> you wrote: >i'm sorry about the lack of official content, but i had to respond to the >brazilian who thinks everything but the girl is boring. Sorry !! But it's boring.....FOR ME ! I've got a friend who told me i used to have a better taste for music... not now,cause i am a MAD B&S fan. Who cares ? Do you like Frente too ? I don't ! Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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But instead I got a display that quite frankly 'rocked' like nothing has ever 'rocked' before I have seen Radiohead twice and Catatonia. Whilst all good gigs this beat them all. I'll see you all in London when B&S play there next year Oh yes I will be there A reformed 'Seed' - northy from the paw of the pink panther or just Northy being escapist? _________________________________________________ ``A man is as old as the women he feels.'' - Groucho Marx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the.spod at xxx.com Tue Dec 9 01:32:22 1997 From: the.spod at xxx.com (Daniel Smith) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 01:32:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i'm coming too... Message-ID: <01bd0442$4bd8e460$3f1642c2@mbge5dss.mcc.ac.uk> hiya just thought i'd add me as well Dan Smith +1 (the.spod at deathsdoor.com) this is for both sat. and sunday nights p.s. who got tickets 0001??? i ended up with 15 and 16 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From a-bergman at xxx.edu Tue Dec 9 09:32:23 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 03:32:23 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: no fox... Message-ID: but certainly snow. It's 3:30AM here and for some reason I am still awake, working on sundry papers and listening to Dog on Wheels and 3, 6, 9... alternately in my CD-ROM drive, with headphones on, and it's snowing outside, drifting in front of streetlights, coating the cars and the sidewalks in a soft blanket... soft blanket. I could use that about now. to anyone who hasn't already: download IRC software so you can participate in the upcoming band chat! the chats that have been going on as sort of test runs, I guess, have been infinitely amusing. And FYI, Macintosh users: the best software that I have found is ChatNet, even though it's only the demo version and will automatically log you off every 20 minutes. That or MacIRC, which is a little less user-friendly but still better than GlobalChat. As David informed me, you can access all these programs at ftp://ftp.undernet.org/pub/irc/clients and pick your very favorite one. I'm pretty familiar with all the Mac stuff at this point, so if anyone's got any queries about that feel free to drop me an email. Well. Work, then slumber for me. If only there were a fox to go with my snow... ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "I wanna be mesmerizing..." --Liz Phair ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Mon Dec 8 22:06:57 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Mon, 08 Dec 1997 23:06:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bossa Nova Piped Peanuts Message-ID: <348C6F81.B66CA455@colon.net.> Sorry for my bizzarre outburst about Brazillians, it's just that when asked why Brazillians are so good at football the only reasonable explanation I can come up with is that they all learn to play using coconuts instead of proper footballs. Toughens up your instep. Yes, I do like Tom Jobim, lovely, lovely, lovely, especially in Portuguese (which I can't understand), but quite nice in English too thanks to Jobim's voice which is not that of a professional singer (it says here). I think "Off-Key" would be most appropriate for Stuart Murdoch's charmingly wayward vocals. I also like "How Insensitive" very much. It's the song that roped me in, thanks to a version by those pesky Monkees. You have to be careful when purchasing Jobim albums as Sting seems to use them as a Trojan Horse type device to make his way into unsuspecting record collections. I've picked up that Peanuts album many a time, but I've never actually bought it. Time will tell whether or not Mussadiq's eloquent piece will persuade me to take the plunge. I have to say that this list is a much more effective marketing tool than the NME. Only an unfortunate lack of funding has prevented that Paul Simon album from entering my boudoir. And I don't like Paul Simon very much (at all), but the description was very intriguing. Which I suppose is a roundabout way of saying thanks for all the information and entertainment this list continues to provide me with. I tried to download the necessary software to come and play in the chatty room, but the little box said it would take an hour and eighteen minutes for the little cybermen to shovel it off the back of a lorry and wheelbarrow it into my computer terminal. So I thought you can stick it. This song is very nice too, Valsa De Porto Das Caixas, which must mean Waltz of the Port of Boxes. Am I right? It's definitely got more of a ring to it in Portuguese. Oh and by the way, I had a go on the magnetic poetry thing, but there's some strange force at work that turns every line into a pile of filth. And another thing - some friends of mine insist that they heard an instrumental version of Judy and the Dream of Horses as part of the piped music in a clothes shop. Not as unlikely as it sounds, I've heard such way out sounds as Teenage Fanclub in the same shop, but I said that there was no such thing as an instrumental version of JATDOH. I didn't want to call them dirty liars before being completely sure. So - could they be right, or are they mental? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Paul ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Tue Dec 9 12:17:24 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 9 Dec 97 12:17:24 Subject: Sinister: Pebbles Message-ID: <9712091124.AA7619@notesgw.compuserve.com> Unrelated questions: Has anyone actually seen a pop concert ('gig' still makes me feel kind of queasy - not sure why. Mind you 'pop' is getting that way too - always seems to be used to make a point these days. Ooops - digression!) at the Manchester Town Hall? I seem to remember someone saying that Stuart Murdoch just picked it as a venue because he like the look of it or something. When I lived in Manchester I only really thought of it as the place that the daft inflatable Santa was mounted. Don't remember any bands playing there. What's it like as a venue? "A hand over my mouth / A hand over the window" Just listening to this last night and wondering what other people think it might be referring to. Don't worry all you analysisophobes - I'm quite happy for it to stay a lovely ambiguous line without particular meaning, but I just thought maybe I was missing something obvious. Is it all the other boys turning from queuing to marauding, perhaps? Nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com If a little knowledge is dangerous, where is the man who has so much as to be out of danger? - T.H Huxley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Tue Dec 9 13:05:11 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 13:05:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Message-ID: <348D4207.715F@virgin.net> Hi everyone, it's update time! Ok, just spoken to Barry, and everyone who ordered tickets from the fanclub, should either have them, or they're in the post. If you have any worries that you haven't yet got your tickets from FOUNDATION ONLY, please phone me at Jeepster on 0181 964 9432, and i'll try to track them down. Please don't e-mail, as it just makes it too complex. Call between 10am and 6pm weekdays. There are still tickets lefty for sale at Piccadilly Records in Manchester, they are taking chq and some credit card orders, so phone Laura on 0161 839 8008. If you are worried about your tickets that were purchased anywhere other than Foundation, please contact them directly, as i can't do anything about the other outlets. Also, Barry has asked me to get in contact with PHIL GORMAN and CHRISTOPHER ORAM. If anyway knows these people, please get them to phone me at Jeepster, as Christopher didn't give his address and Phil didn't say how many tickets he wants and for what nights. Thanks to Andy Dean for organising the list of people who want to meet-up. We're still trying to organise the meet-up, again details available after the 15th by phoning David and I at home (0181 560 1815). And Tag & Julian the Smile DJ & I are trying to organise a club night/aftershow thingy as well, so more details regarding that when it's finalised. That's all i know .. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ta4091 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 9 13:30:12 1997 From: ta4091 at xxx.uk (Dazza) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:30:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian Message-ID: <9C5B1012589@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> New and improved with corrections by the mysterious Riddley13, we present, for your strumming pleasure: Belle And Sebastian G C I left my school I left my job G C You saw me looking like a slob Am F# Bm C When I was young you were the only fun in town G C Everyone thought it was a shame G C For Belle and the boy Sebastian Am D Belle was OK but oh Sebastian C Bm Am Went too far again, crashed his car in the rain G C He wants to love and he wants to care G C But when the girls hear that they think he's so square Am D Sebastian for once just leave your troubles home (x2) G C She goes to school around the way G C Am The boys are queueing up to tell her she's a star F# Bm C Poor Sebastian is heading for a fall G C Everyone though it was a shame G C For Belle and the boy Sebastian G C Everyone thought it was a shame Am D Belle was OK but oh Sebastian C Bm Am Went too far again, crashed his car in the rain D C Bm Am Oh Sebastian wrote his diary that he would never be young again C D But you will, fellow you are ill G C You better take a weight off of your mind and listen G To what other people say A C Cause things are going wrong your own way instrumental: G C G C Am D Am D Am F# Bm C repeat last verse. cheers Dazza ************ I gave it to Nelly To stick in her belly The leg of the duck The leg of the duck. ************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faw1 at xxx.edu Tue Dec 9 14:26:41 1997 From: faw1 at xxx.edu (Francisco Alberto Wong) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:26:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: I Could Be Dreaming In-Reply-To: Message-ID: But I'm NOT! hahahhhahhhahahhaahha Sing O muse of the godlike awesominity of Andrea Bergman, supplier of stateside Tigermilk tapes! I recieved the tape you (andrea) so graciously copied and sent; it came in yesterday; my roommate and I put it on the stereo really loud and soaked it all up. It was amazing and comforting; strange yet familiar. I could finally place my finger on many of the items the listees have chatted about: the Hal Hartley quote, Electronic Renaissance (and the New Order/Pet Shop Boys connection), Stuart M's demos, that annoying radio sessions DJ as he cuts off the songs just as they're about to blast off into legendary status... Everything. Wow. How were Stuart's demos obtained? Who originally got them? Were they released on radio, or some secret clandestine means in the backrooms of beaded boudoirs? Right now, after two listens, its I Don't Love Anyone (who sings this?), I Could Be Dreaming (session version), and London Has Let Me Down has to be one of the best titles ever. Hoorah Hoorah Hooray! francisco ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Dec 9 14:50:24 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:50:24 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Chatty Sinisterines In-Reply-To: <199712091429.OAA29827@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Hopkins T wrote: > Hiya, > downloaded mIRC, and it seems to be working, but who knows?! Any idea > when anyone will be around in the chat room today? Is the address really > just #chat.virgin.net? That sems a little...i dunno, general. > Anyway I (as far as I know) logged on there and nobody was around. I was > expecting to see some kind of robot there (your HoneyBot? goodness...) > and the absence of anything at all made me feel I wasn't in the right > place somehow. > > This and other general technical paranoia has characterised my morning. > > Any favourite servers I should connect to? OK - you've got that slightly garbled. Here for everyone is a quick reminder: 1. You can use any IRC program to access IRC, including the Virgin chat rooms. The easiest is Virgin's GlobalChat, as mentioned earlier at: http://community.virgin.net/cs/owa/pcs_svc.mainpage But mirc and other programs will do as well: you can get them at http://www.mirc.co.uk Peter - there's a Spanish mirror site and it shouldn't take long! Honest. It's too much fun to miss. 2. If you use GlobalChat it will automatically connect to the SERVER chat.virgin.net. If you use mirc etc. you will need to add this to the server list. 3. So chat.virgin.net is the SERVER not the ROOM. Rooms begin with "#" - the two to use are "#JeepsterRecords" and "#Sinister" - just type "join ". There aren't any alternative servers for the Virgin betwork, to my knowledge, unlike the other networks like Undernet. 4. Amanda Bergman has already posted something today about Mac clients. Thanks Amanda! 5. Remember - dummy run tonight at 9pm GMT - be there. It's been a lot of fun so far! Best place to gather tonight is probably #Sinister. 6. The HoneyBot twins like a nice tickle. HoneyChile ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Tue Dec 9 15:59:27 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 09:59:27 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: I Could Be Dreaming In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >But I'm NOT! hahahhhahhhahahhaahha > >Sing O muse of the godlike awesominity of Andrea Bergman, supplier of >stateside Tigermilk tapes! just for the record, to avoid confusion, my name is AMANDA... but oh, your words of praise make me go all crimson. this must be how Paul feels when we get all gushy on him... ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "I wanna be mesmerizing..." --Liz Phair ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MSRX5SJJ at xxx.uk Tue Dec 9 17:14:19 1997 From: MSRX5SJJ at xxx.uk (Simon Jackson) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:14:19 BST Subject: Sinister: Manc concerts Message-ID: <5E83365CB0@fs1.ec.man.ac.uk> Hello fellow believers. Just joined the list and I wondered if anyone could help me. I'm going to the two concerts in Manc, and when I bought my tickets (from Piccadilly records in Manc) I spotted a small notice which mentined a B&S party type thingy on the Sunday (28th Dec). This seems promising, but no-one I've spoken to seems to know anything about it. Is there anyone else out there that could shed some light on this? Ta v.much Simon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk Tue Dec 9 17:53:05 1997 From: J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk (Taylor JM) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 17:53:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: HELP - MANCHESTER GIGS Message-ID: Sorry that this is a bit cheeky, especially if somebody is already co-ordinating this sort of thing, but though i've been on this list for a while i never seem to get chance to read barely anything these days...new job on psych ward i actually care about etc...anyway... Can anyone help - i'd written off the idea of going to the Manc gigs through lack of transport....but had been regretting it, so i called up this morning and found there are still tix available :) problem is getting back, to Birmingham after saturday's gig, or London after Sundays, for work on monday morning..... or maybe even somewhere to stay sat night to go back south on sunday....but then i'd want to stay for sundays gig and could.'nt get back to london. Last trains/coaches on both days are way too early :( is anybody driving back down south after either???? or has a bit of floor space to sleep on for sat night??? if anybody can help, please ideally call me on 0171-690 9970 + leave a message (name + no.!) if i'm not in, or send me an e, and i'll try to check my email on friday after work..... hope this make sense + some kind soul in B&S land can help. cheers jim equally if i do any good elsewhere and anybody needs trnasport let me know: jim at city.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Whispes at xxx.com Tue Dec 9 18:01:26 1997 From: Whispes at xxx.com (Whispes) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 13:01:26 EST Subject: Sinister: the indie pop auction for the poor college kid will be ending halleluijah Message-ID: <26c43b44.348d877d@aol.com> Hello again and again... This is Larry (again)..just a reminder to let you know that the record auction that i am holding will end 24:00 EST Dec 11, 1997. It's been going on for quite some time and for those of you don't know the original auction that started about a little over 3 weeks ago was accidentally canceled (AOL problem what else?) so we had to start all over about 2 weeks ago... *if you made a post BEFORE November 25-26 (which was when the new page went up) you might need to repost* ..most people know that already though. Anyways it ends 24:00 EST Dec 11, 1997 and I just wanted to remind people that it was out there at http://members.aol.com/Whispes/Auction_Frame.htm (frames) http://members.aol.com/Whispes/Sale.htm (no frames) Please check your bids to see how they are doing....and bids received after 24:00 EST Dec 11, 1997 will not be counted. If you have won a bid, you will receive an e mail that you have won such a bid and we will work postage and etc from there. If you are caught in a tie, then you will receive an e mail requesting for you to beat the tie, blah blah etc. Thanks thanks thanks! Larry ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Dec 8 22:15:03 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 22:15:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: PEANUTS AND B&S Message-ID: hiyee! About the Charlie Brown thing, i was told something about the guy who writes them, damn whats his name? sorry, I've forgotten, but it really made me think. Charlie brown, the little lad who you always felt sorry for, was actually based on the writer, and he was in unrequited love with this other girl who was also made into the cartoon, but i forget what her name was. Who ever thinks of the guys who write the cartoons as having tortured lives? There was always a melancholy air to Charlie Brown but it never *connects* does it? Thhere was a pic of him accepting an award with massive characters of Snoopy behind him, and it was sad because these held him back from doing the great art he wanted to produce. not that Snoopy isn't great (in fact I named my hamster Snoopy cos i never had a dog) but you know what I mean. Quite sad i thought. Well, it is a monday evening. and to all the people who mailed me for tigermilk-let me know if you want radio sessions and if so what ones, just in case you need any..... "if you had such a dream" Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From benno at xxx.se Tue Dec 9 18:52:36 1997 From: benno at xxx.se (Benno) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 19:52:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B & S-interview Message-ID: <199712091852.TAA06419@octopus.hik.se> Hej. Today sees the new issue of Benno's e-zine Stokage ready and out, which could be of interest to some of you, we think. The adress is: http://www2.passagen.se/benno/Home/Stokage/New_Stokage/new_stokage.html It's Stokage #18 and include an interview with Stuart David from Belle & Sebastian by Sinister-list member Klas Ericsson, and a personal view on the band by Stefan Zachrisson, also subscriber to Sinister. There's also articles on Slowball Recordings, Sparklehorse, Ward J Little, columns, debate and the largest review-section - Apples In Stereo, Comet Gain, Momus, Helen Love, Holiday, Teen Anthems, "Songs For The Jet Set", Tullycraft/Bunnygrunt, Stereo Total, Pastels etc. - yet. And for the first time all soundfiles are in Real Audio and for the first time you can listen to WHOLE songs (by B & S you can listen to "She's losing it", "Judy..., "Photo Jenny", "Fakers" and "String Bean Jean") not just excerpts. Best regards Stefan Zachrisson & Benno from a snowy Stockholm. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Benno Phone: +46-(0)8-663 40 06 Strindbergsg. 54 Fax: +46-(0)8-663 40 07 S-115 53 Sthlm WWW: www2.passagen.se/benno/ Sweden E-mail: benno at benno.mc.hik.se --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Dec 9 19:48:03 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 14:48:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: i'm sorry, so sorry In-Reply-To: <199712091852.TAA06419@octopus.hik.se> Message-ID: i promise not to write help as the subject again, but HELP! i've finally gotten the chat program up and running, but i can't figure out the channel thing. i've tried typing in join #virgin and/or sinister but i don't think i'm getting to the right places. of course, the other possibility is that there's just no one else in the rooms...i don't know. have you all noticed yet that i'm completely ignorant of what is going on with this chat room stuff? if someone could please (please, pleeeeeessse) clue me in AGAIN. i know the information has probably already been posted a million times, hence my abject apologies. thanks everlastingly, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leh at xxx.uk Tue Dec 9 20:24:42 1997 From: leh at xxx.uk (Laura Hamilton) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 20:24:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: PEANUTS AND B&S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think that the unrequited love that you are talking about was just referred to as 'the little red-haired girl' in the books, I always found it so sad when he plucked up the courage to go to her front door and chickened out before she answered or it was her gran that answered and he ran away. aaaaahhhh, L'amour! it'll break your heart Love and hugs, Laura :) xxx On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Sarah wrote: > hiyee! > > About the Charlie Brown thing, i was told something about the guy who > writes them, damn whats his name? sorry, I've forgotten, but it really > made me think. > > Charlie brown, the little lad who you always felt sorry for, was > actually based on the writer, and he was in unrequited love with this > other girl who was also made into the cartoon, but i forget what her > name was. Who ever thinks of the guys who write the cartoons as having > tortured lives? There was always a melancholy air to Charlie Brown but > it never *connects* does it? > > Thhere was a pic of him accepting an award with massive characters of > Snoopy behind him, and it was sad because these held him back from doing > the great art he wanted to produce. not that Snoopy isn't great (in fact > I named my hamster Snoopy cos i never had a dog) but you know what I > mean. > > Quite sad i thought. Well, it is a monday evening. > > and to all the people who mailed me for tigermilk-let me know if you > want radio sessions and if so what ones, just in case you need any..... > "if you had such a dream" > Sarah > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Tue Dec 9 19:32:45 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 19:32:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bossa Nova Piped Peanuts References: <348C6F81.B66CA455@colon.net.> Message-ID: <348D9CDD.26CC@seahouses.u-net.com> > I tried to download the necessary software to come and play > in the chatty room, but the little box said it would take an > hour and eighteen minutes for the little cybermen to shovel > it off the back of a lorry and wheelbarrow it into my > computer terminal. So I thought you can stick it. Then you sir are missing out on a whole brave friendly new world! Cancel the download at your peril!!!!!!!!!!!!! JJ x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From monroej at xxx.com Wed Dec 10 00:47:20 1997 From: monroej at xxx.com (john monroe) Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 16:47:20 -0800 Subject: Sinister: sxsw sampler cd from the enclave Message-ID: <199712092247.QAA10023@mailgw00.execpc.com> i don't think the songs are different on this promo cd ( stars of track and field, judy and the dream of horses ), but it seems its just a little different, different eqaulization, anyone think the same? could just be my ears today, i'll have to do some kind of test... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Mon Dec 8 15:12:12 1997 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC) Date: Mon, 8 Dec 1997 10:12:12 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #93 Message-ID: In a message dated 12/8/97 6:51:54 AM, you wrote: <> whaddya mean? He likes T.Rex and Bowie so he can't be all that bad. Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Wed Dec 10 09:41:39 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 09:41:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: PEANUTS AND B&S References: Message-ID: <348E63D3.5855@nmrc.ucc.ie> Funny it came up, but since it was mentioned I admit that the first two things I do when I arrive at work is reading my B&S emails and then going to http://umweb1.unitedmedia.com/comics/peanuts/ to read the peanut strip of the day. Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Wed Dec 10 12:43:50 1997 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:43:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: (Fwd) Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: ph.ac.ed.uk: h Message-ID: <11525781D2B@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> For once this has some notable B&S content, but I've gotta be quick. Last night we went to Ben Folds Five in Bradford, and my pal Ross interviewed the man himself for the paper. Glowing with pride from the piano man's compliments about his hair, Ross later informed us that, not only is Ben Folds a massive Radiohead fan (and...), but that he absolutely adores B&S, and is desperate to get hold of a copy of Tigermilk. How we laughed as we thought that, whilst he may have a multi-million dollar recording contract and a top twenty hit in America (is this true, Yanks?), he may never have heard 'She's Losing It'. Oh, I had an idea to brighten up the devotees' trips to the rainy city. Why don't the people who know the place kind of, um, give pointers as to good places to visit during the weekend, things to do, etc. Like 'Why Don't You', only minus Declan Donnely. I'll begin, if you like: #1 - visit Vinyl Exchange and annoy Julian. Not just because it really is the swankiest plastic emporium in the North (apart from Picadilly), but because Julian, the Smile guy, works there sometimes. He'll probably be downstairs, smoking and filing U2 albums or something, looking grumpy. When you go in, you've got to ask him whether they've got 'Tigermilk', upon which he will smile and say: "Ha ha ha, no, but, actually, I have a copy, of my very own, on vinyl, it really is superb, I've had it ages." He enjoys saying this, BUT, if every other fool in there asks him the same question and then giggles, he'll start to get paranoid, which'll be really funny. Okay, maybe it won't, but at least I've shown some initiative. Also, he hates students, so go on about your course and cheap booze in unions and that'll be cool, too. Actually don't, this is cruel, 'cos Julian's a top bloke and once let us sleep on his floor. In fact this whole idea sucks. Grrrrrr. Finally, did anyone else laugh at Capt. Bob Stanley talking about Marianne Faithful on 'Brit Girls' on Saturday. I'm off now, Joseph xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Dec 10 13:52:59 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 13:52:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: rebelious jukebox (yeah!) Message-ID: <80256569.004C911E.00@bull.co.uk> the melody make today has a list of b&s's favourite lps with a short write-up of each done by the band member who chose them... beatles, beastie boys, nick cave, orange juice (twice), phil spector, teenage fanclub... and a new picture of chris reading about malcolm x ('no skulldugery, no flim-flam...') the nme has the following in it's tour news: belle & sebastian manchester town hall (december 27 and 28) which i thought was kinda terse... oh, has anyone got their tickets from foundation yet? it's a couple of days away from me starting to worry but some reassurance would be good... and why is the list so quiet recently? is it because we're all strung out on irc? i didn't get home until 11 last night with all the chatting... it's a strange thing. kids, just say no. andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From klas.ericsson at xxx.se Wed Dec 10 14:42:09 1997 From: klas.ericsson at xxx.se (Klas Ericsson) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:42:09 +0200 Subject: Sinister: A century of Chatters Message-ID: Hi! I trashed the mail about how do download the IRC and what to do next and all... So could anyone please post me the instructions? Best wishes, Klas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Dec 10 14:31:45 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (S.K. Gardiner) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 14:31:45 +0000 (gmt) Subject: Sinister: Odds and sods... In-Reply-To: <80256569.004C911E.00@bull.co.uk> Message-ID: > oh, has anyone got their tickets from foundation yet? it's a > couple of days away from me starting to worry but some > reassurance would be good... Well mine finally arrived this morning, so don't panic just yet! (I've got tickets!!! Ooh, I'm getting all excited...) > > and why is the list so quiet recently? is it because we're > all strung out on irc? i didn't get home until 11 last night > with all the chatting... it's a strange thing. kids, just > say no. > I was out at a Shane Magowen gig last night, so any chance of a resume? How did it go etc? Or have we all been deserted by people in the chat room? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Dec 10 14:48:05 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 14:48:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Last night's test chat Message-ID: <199712101513.PAA16783@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > Last night's chat was my first encounter with the world of chat rooms, > and, although I was only able to be there briefly, it seemed like a laugh. > Paul (or whoever else knows the answers to these questions): > 1. how many people joined in? how many from the list? (I thought it was > funny when that death metal fan stumbled in, attracted by the name > 'sinister'!) > 2. how long did the chat go on? > 3. did the link-up between the two rooms go as you had hoped? > 4. all systems go for a full-on 'meet the band' style chat at some stage > then? > Is there an argument for setting up more regular times when a few listies will be around in the'Sinister' room? When would suit people? > ta ra > > Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Dec 10 15:17:27 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:17:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Odds and sods... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, S.K. Gardiner wrote: > I was out at a Shane Magowen gig last night, so any chance of a > resume? How did it go etc? Or have we all been deserted by people in the > chat room? Chat stuff: there's a log of last night's chat and (for Klas and others) instructions for software etc. at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/#chat General verdict was (I hope - more comments to me) that it looked mad but actually worked reasonably well. David and Katrina stood in for the band, and answered questions for the Fan Club/Jeepster and did a sterling job. Anyone who's missing out - don't! Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Dec 10 15:21:51 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:21:51 GMT Subject: Sinister: My flatmate, the celebrity In-Reply-To: <11525781D2B@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> References: <11525781D2B@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <348eb239.197323@email.mcmail.com> On Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:43:50 GMT, Cairns wrote: >#1 - visit Vinyl Exchange and annoy Julian. Now this is interesting... > Not just because it really is the swankiest plastic emporium >in the North (apart from Picadilly), but because Julian, the Smile >guy, works there sometimes. > He'll probably be downstairs, smoking and filing U2 albums or >something, looking grumpy. When you go in, you've got to ask him >whether they've got 'Tigermilk', upon which he will smile and say: >"Ha ha ha, no, but, actually, I have a copy, of my very own, on >vinyl, it really is superb, I've had it ages." He enjoys saying this, >BUT, if every other fool in there asks him the same question and then >giggles, he'll start to get paranoid, which'll be really funny. Okay, >maybe it won't, but at least I've shown some initiative. >Also, he hates students, so go on about your course and cheap booze >in unions and that'll be cool, too. Actually don't, this is cruel, >'cos Julian's a top bloke and once let us sleep on his floor. In fact >this whole idea sucks. Grrrrrr. No, it doesn't suck, and I won't tell him a thing. When did you sleep on his floor. Was I there? Who the hell are you? Who's been sleeping on my floor that I don't know about? I'm frightened and I want my mum. >Finally, did anyone else laugh at Capt. Bob Stanley talking about >Marianne Faithful on 'Brit Girls' on Saturday. It was baroque wasn't it? Places to go: Cafe Pop (Oldham St) for 'convivial' surroundings, chocalate fudge cake from the Polish bakery and cheese on toast that rules like a bad mutha. Goldmine Records (Shambles Square) for Northern Soul goodies and Piccadilly Records for Laura's radiant smile, Martin's saucy good looks, Andrew's infectious enthusiasm and Daryl's abuse about football. Actually forget the last one - he's an evil red disgrace and he smells. Of poo. Kingbee Records in Chorlton for second-hand bargains. Errr....Marks and Spencer's where you can make bad jokes about turning tables round. Night and Day is a nice place to drink. So is Corbiere's, when it's quiet, but I can never remember what road it's on. Behind the Royal Exchange. Maine Road for a beautiful religious experience. Don't go to Old Trafford unless you want to make Munich jokes and imitate the cockney accents of the punters. Actually they'll all be at home in Surbiton watching it on TV. Bastards. Love Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Dec 10 15:20:17 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:20:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: IRC Message-ID: <01bd057f$1eb5fa70$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Thought I'd give the old IRC job a shot tonight, if anyone's up for it. If I can configure my machine to work properly (it's running through a proxy server - which doesn't like to use any IRC except netcom which is what the proxy server runs). We could as an alternative suggestion, run a chat program on David + Katrina's web page (This would mean people wouldn't need to download mirc and go through all the trauma, same as the NME webpage), however given the way these things work, you need a server program to be running on the web page machine - which means that your ISP will have to allow you to do this... What do people reckon, is it possible? I can knock up the software if it's possible. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Wed Dec 10 15:35:06 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 10:35:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: thank you all In-Reply-To: <80256569.004C911E.00@bull.co.uk> Message-ID: i wanted to thank everyone who responded to my frenzied cries for help about the chat stuff. i did finally work it out and had a lovely (tho short) conversation with john from milwaukee, rachel from nyc and nicholas from greece (hi kids). i did not catch the 9 o'clock chat, so i hope i didn't miss the discovery of cold fusion or anything. love, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Dec 10 15:48:53 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:48:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: rebelious jukebox (yeah!) Message-ID: <199712101556.PAA18568@orange.easynet.co.uk> > oh, has anyone got their tickets from foundation yet? it's a > couple of days away from me starting to worry but some > reassurance would be good... I got my tickets this morning! Which reminds me... I'll be staying at the youth hostel on the Sunday night. Somebody posted the prices the other day, and I thought I ought to add that you'll have to pay another tenner to the basic £18 to become a member of the YHA. Still, it's probably cheaper than staying in a dodgy B&B... we ought to take over the place for a couple of evenings! > and why is the list so quiet recently? is it because we're > all strung out on irc? i didn't get home until 11 last night > with all the chatting... it's a strange thing. kids, just > say no. It is indeed a very spooky medium. There's something a bit ouija-board-ish seeing all these words materialise out of the ether onto your screen. It can be a bit like trying to have a conversation in a crowded pub during a powercut if there's a lot of people there. Also, you need bionic fingers to keep up with the typing speed of the Honeymonster. I had a look at the Stokage fanzine this morning. Great article, Stefan! It said a lot that I've felt myself, but have been too inarticulate/lazy to actually write down. Interesting that Stuart David says that 'Tigermilk is free and untutored and Sinister is repressed and lifeless' and yet there's still no plans to release it... Oh well, 17 days and counting... Stephen > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Dec 10 15:50:13 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:50:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Last night's test chat In-Reply-To: <199712101513.PAA16783@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > 1. how many people joined in? how many from the list? (I thought it was > > funny when that death metal fan stumbled in, attracted by the name > > 'sinister'!) Total guess - about 25. > > 2. how long did the chat go on? Hmm - 30 mins for the official chat? It's hard to judge when you're frantically giving people voices and taking them away, and fighting off wandering goths and ChasM's... The REAL chat, i.e. mad and wild gossip went on for about 2 hours probably, everyone sloping off at 10-10:30ish. > > 3. did the link-up between the two rooms go as you had hoped? Yes, surprisingly it seemed to be sort of OK. A little more thought required on the final details. My main worry is that the band won't be able to handle it quite as quickly as David and Katrina. But we'll see. > > 4. all systems go for a full-on 'meet the band' style chat at some stage > > then? Looks like it. Chat with David and Katrina tonight to see how we're doing. > Is there an argument for setting up more regular times when a few listies > will be around in the'Sinister' room? When would suit people? Yes - great. 8pm GMT sounds like a good time for most UK and US people - Wednesdays (hey that's tonight :). US people feel free to organise something else in the dead of the UK night. But watch those phone bills - mine is going to be colossal... Paul P.S. To reassure those who can't take part - don't feel you're being disenfranchised. The chat room is very different from this list and anything goes except when the organised chats happen. The only action taken in there would be to remove any non-Sinister people who come in and flood the channel with streams of rubbish trying to take us all offline - it does happen v occasionally. So it's pretty chaotic and fun, but not a substitute for us talking here. I'd appeal to people on the mailing list to keep those non-chatters in touch by explaining references to chat stuff..! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Wed Dec 10 16:09:04 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:09:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: rebelious jukebox (yeah!) References: <80256569.004C911E.00@bull.co.uk> Message-ID: <348EBEA0.738E@virgin.net> Andrew.Dean at BULL.NET wrote: > oh, has anyone got their tickets from foundation yet? it's a > couple of days away from me starting to worry but some > reassurance would be good... Hi everyone! Barry from Foundation posted all the tickets yesterday, so if you don't have yours by last post on Friday, phone me at Jeepster (0181 964 9432) or david & i at home (0181 560 1815) and i'll chase it up with Barry. Also, it is nearly 100% confirmed that B&S are going to perform a matinee performance on the Sunday at Manchester, so the meet-up will probably on the Saturday instead. More info on tickets etc. will come tomorrow as i get it. That's it! Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leongmun at xxx.sg Wed Dec 10 16:22:17 1997 From: leongmun at xxx.sg (Leong Mun Wai) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 00:22:17 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Something to share... Message-ID: <01bd0587$c833be40$425d8489@default> Hi, Guess what? Today I was visiting the official B&S website, and decided I should join the mailing list. I also listened to 'a century of fakers' on the stokage e-zine's (#18) article on B&S, felt tears well up in my eyes, and was wondering to myself if I would ever get my own copy (which I could do by making the expensive mail order to the UK, or from Parasol, but I think they're out of stock at the moment). And then on this very same day, about 13hrs later, at my local record store, I find 3..6..9 seconds of light and lazy line painter jane sitting on the cd-singles shelf. They only brought in two copies of each. I was the happiest man on earth... :)Mun Wai ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Wed Dec 10 16:27:47 1997 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 16:27:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Night Birds Message-ID: <01BD0588.8DCC27A0@pc7628> Oh you people are so wonderful yet so miserable !! What chance of organising chat-room "meet-ups" around lunch-times (GMT) for those of us who are just abusing their employers facilities ??? I'd love the opportunity for a drop-in chat with some of you fellow B&S chaps. Committed to my work I might be, but I am somewhat loathed to hang around this dump until 9:00pm....there's footy on the box as well.....albeit only the Manc-scum. -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Dec 10 15:52:18 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 15:52:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My flatmate, the celebrity Message-ID: <01bd0583$97e58ce0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Finally, did anyone else laugh at Capt. Bob Stanley talking about >Marianne Faithful on 'Brit Girls' on Saturday. He seems to know all your friends Tag! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Thu Dec 11 03:43:39 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 22:43:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: see ya In-Reply-To: <9C5B1012589@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> Message-ID: everyone should join us in the chat room, it's a ball. no more random jokes, due, we promise. laurel (pythia) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Dec 10 22:05:55 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 23:05:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: General Ramble Message-ID: <348F1242.5CE20592@colon.net.> If you ever want to annoy your father-in-law, may I suggest that you stuff his nailfile under the settee. The result is like a mighty volcanoe spewing forth molten lava and shouting a lot. You'd think the old bugger would realise it was me hiding all his stuff, wouldn't you? But no. He huffs and he puffs and I keep a straight face. Which brings me neatly to the subject of the Conversation Parlour. It is highly unlikely that I'd be able to indulge in witty banter for more than five minutes before a rabid pensioner comes bursting into the room shouting incoherent nonsense about the phone not working. So if I don't manage to join in just yet, it's all down to creeping senile dementia, not just the slowness of the software downtrickle. Before long I'll be disappearing to go and sun myself on a topless breast on the Mediterranean and when I get back it should be all change round here, enabling me to fritter away my time in the manner of my choosing. I'm a bit envious of you all meeting up for this Manchester shindig. Honey + 3, eh? Are Splat and Shirl going as well? No one should have any trouble spotting Paul, he is a crudely drawn stick man, as can be seen on his website. And the Duke AND Duchess of Haringay! Look out for a mad woman shouting "they sound fucking great!" at the top of her voice. Ben Folds Five's lyrical outlook is vaguely similar to Belle and Sebastian, but quite American I think. Then again, not very similar at all. I think Mister Folds has got some nice songs. And fits in nicely with my assumed persona of seventies freak. Someone asked if the Barcelona concert was as beautiful as they imagined it to be, and I don't think anyone has answered yet, so I will. I don't know. It was certainly the best evening's entertainment I've had in quite a long time, but it was probably a bit too chaotic for it to be most people's idea of beautiful. There were lots of beautiful bits, such as a very amiable security guard saying goodnight to everyone (honest!) and Chris's feet pedaling away on his pedals and Sarah having to stop halfway through a song to tie up her rollerskate laces and Stuart M's sandals and, and, and...lots of things. I suppose beautiful would be an appropriate word. I could go on and on and on, but the in-laws are onn their way to bed, so it's prime hiding things time for me. The TV remote control is the best, it produces a controlled nuclear explosion that Jacques Chirac would be proud of. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Thu Dec 11 11:13:26 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:13:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: woohoo! Message-ID: <8025656A.003DE377.00@bull.co.uk> tickets arrived this morning. which is nice. 00602 and 00603 for the saturday, 00605 - 00607 for the sunday. next up: accomodation... no email from sinister overnight. i tell you it's those irc saddoes, too busy typing '/me giggles' to have time to write email... still, it means that we don't get any email to the list asking what a lemur is. do these people not have dictionaries? um, a possible us tour in july eh? what about the world cup? they'll miss all the penalty shoot-outs... 8) andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Thu Dec 11 10:05:31 1997 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 10:05:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: a brief period of chat.... Message-ID: <01BD061C.548E3A20@manray.impressions-gallery.com> hello everybody!! just a few comments about the brief period I spent in the sinister room last night... top fun! it was remarkable to find out that the duke was also ex-alumni of the Glasgow School of Art (its surprised me how many listees are here partly for B&S and partly to fondly reminisce of time spent in Glasgae... I know I'm one....) It was a tad confusing, but it was nice when everyone shut up for a while to listen to a joke.. it was almost like a 'lord of the flies' conch shell type thing... I seemed to get cut off after a short while (was it something I said???) I hope that non-chatters don't get caught out of the loop on the mail list... Perhaps only having one session a week is a good idea. it is a vaguely spooky experience though, but very cool to do 'actions' (I can breakdance in cyberspace) nuff for now mattxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Dec 11 11:44:09 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 11:44:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: Mary Whitehouse speaks Message-ID: <348fd084.6404846@email.mcmail.com> Dear 'Sinister' Last night, I went to the Sinister chat room, fully anticipating an informed and mature discussion of the nuances of my favourite 'beat combo' Belle and Sebastian. Imagine my horror, when I discovered that this 'chat room' was little more than a front for such scandalous indulgences as cheap innuendo, androgyny, food fetishism and group sex, perpetuated by a group of people so ashamed of their moral depravity that they masked their true identities behind such juvenile names as 'Honeybot' and 'Kinky'. I would advise any fellow upstanding listees to boycott this den of iniquity and voice your discontent to Mr. Honey. Please ensure that such behaviour never happens again. Yours in outrage Disgusted of Chorlton Same time next week, OK? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Dec 11 17:55:01 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 17:55:01 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <5Qi7LaA1jCk0EwPj@elsato97.demon.co.uk> I got my ticket today! oh the joy!!!!!!!! that will be all for now. -- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Dec 11 19:15:25 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:15:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: lyrics..... Message-ID: Hiyee! Can i make some lyrics requests here? Please could somebody tell me the lyrics to Electronic Renaissance PLEASE!!!!!! I'm going slightly insane! And 'Expectations', whats the line where I think it goes 'hey you've been used, write a song i'll sing along, how you can't settle down, soon you know that you are ???? you're on top of the world again'? strange? sane? it always sounds different to me....aaaah! And, this is that last one fer now, promise! What (and who?) is being spoken at the end of 'I could be dreaming'? I gather something about richard the 3rd thank ing youse kindly! love love love! -- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From simon.gooch at xxx.uk Thu Dec 11 21:09:49 1997 From: simon.gooch at xxx.uk (Simon Gooch) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 21:09:49 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hello People, I'm new (kinda) Message-ID: <1997121121094984572@zetnet.co.uk> Hi peeps, My name is Simon and I'm new to the list, though not the band. Just got me email and net gubbins so just thought I'd say hello and that. Guess we'll see some of yer in Manc for the two (or maybe three) gigs. We're all off up there (from London/Southend) in a manky car driven by a mad ginger satan called Kev. Sorry, we have no space for lifts, wish we did and all that. But we've plenty of room for a party afterwards at our pal Kev's Moss Side homestead. Be warned though, his friend Somhairle (said: Sauly) will scare you through his wiseness. Anyway: all back to ours then... Luv and hugs and kisses Simon P.s. anyone read my fanzine called Chipper - see David's Bluesoda site for more details. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinsco at xxx.CA Thu Dec 11 21:11:42 1997 From: kevinsco at xxx.CA (K. R. Scofield) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 13:11:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: songs Message-ID: I've seen the occasional posting of guitar chords and lyrics for B&S songs on this list. Is there a webpage that has these and more all collected? Kevin -------------------------------- STEREO-TYPE RECORDS -------------------------------- Ensign "Take Care" (cass) $3 Various Victoria Artists "Surrender To The Garden City" (cass + booklet) $5 Dead Stars "Cancer Moon" (cass) $4 Snailhouse/Julie Doiron (7") Coming Soon Run Chico Run (7") Coming Soon -------------------------------- -------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Thu Dec 11 22:36:18 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (***Rob B***) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 22:36:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: lyrics..... Message-ID: <199712112239.WAA22875@sand.global.net.uk> > Can i make some lyrics requests here? Please could somebody tell me the > lyrics to Electronic Renaissance PLEASE!!!!!! I'm going slightly insane! Electronic Renaissance ---------------------------------- Well it's the way to go so drop a pill and then say hello Play a game with your electronics Take a step to the discotheque, and people Go outside where there's someone watching cars go by And the city tall with steeples Hand in hand with the electronic Renaissance is the way to go yeah Hand in hand with the electronic Renaissance is the way to go boy Hand in hand with the electronic glitter eyes (?) is the way to go You're learning, soon you will do the things you wanted Since you were wearing glitter badges If you dance for much very longer You'll be known as the boy who's always dancing If you work for much very longer You'll be known as the boy who's always working Monochrome in the 1990's You'll go disco and I'll go my way Monochrome in the 1990's You'll go disco and I'll go my way Monochrome in the 1990's You'll go disco and I'll go funkadelic man It's the way to go So drop a pill and then say hello > > And 'Expectations', whats the line where I think it goes 'hey you've > been used, write a song i'll sing along, how you can't settle down, soon > you know that you are ???? you're on top of the world again'? strange? > sane? it always sounds different to me....aaaah! yes strange is right :o) though i think it's 'are you calm? settle down' > And, this is that last one fer now, promise! What (and who?) is being > spoken at the end of 'I could be dreaming'? I gather something about > richard the 3rd > thank ing youse kindly! i've been wondering that for ages... i tried writing a bit out, but don't recognise what it's from for what it's worth, here's my (flawed) transcription of the last bit: "...and frequenting a kind of perpetual club for sages, philosophers, and other idle personages of the village which held its sessions in the village of course at the small inn, designated by a courtier of his majesty George the third. Here they used to sit in the shade for a long lazy summer's day talking listlessly over the village gossip and telling endless sleepy stories about nothing. But it would have been worth any statesman's money to have heard the fine discussions that sometimes took place when by chance an old newspaper fell into her hands from some passing traveller. How solemnly they would listen to the contents as drawn out by Derek Van Boore (?) the schoolmaster, a dapple learned man who was not to be daunted by the most gigantic word in the dictionary." anyone know what this is from? i don't :) got my tickets yesterday!! happy happy happy bunny love to all rob xx p.s. can someone explain what this sunday matinee business is all about - i'm most confused... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From itstrue at xxx.net Fri Dec 12 00:47:23 1997 From: itstrue at xxx.net (Reid) Date: Thu, 11 Dec 1997 19:47:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Ben Folds and Sebastian Message-ID: <3490899A.6022@earthlink.net> > not only is Ben Folds a massive Radiohead fan (and...), but > that he absolutely adores B&S, and is desperate to get hold of > a copy of Tigermilk. How we laughed as we thought that, whilst he may > have a multi-million dollar recording contract and a top twenty hit > in America (is this true, Yanks?), he may never have heard 'She's > Losing It'. Ah, how great it is to hear that folks in the UK have discovered the glory that is Ben Folds Five. Their second album is really great, but the first, self-titled one is an absolute classic. And they're one of the best live acts around. A Top 20 hit? Hmm...I'm not sure about that. I know that they've been playing "Brick" a lot on the radio around here, but I don't even think that it was released as a single. It may be top 20 in the Modern Rock tracks or something...but then again, I stopped obsessively looking at Billboard years ago, so what would I know? So while I sit here in the hometown of Ben Folds Five, reading about how all of you lucky Brits get to go to see Belle and Sebastian, at least I can can take comfort in the fact that I have better access to more BFF gigs. I've seen them three times this year (had the chance to see them three more, but that would have taken some "doing"), and they'll probably play here again. And if you think I'm being snotty, just remember that I'll probably NEVER see Belle and Sebastian. Down by Rosemary and Cameron, Reid -- "If the editors of the Manhattan Argus see fit to publish the rantings of a disordered mind, then perhaps they will see fit to publish this letter!" J. Reid Dossinger (Chapel Hill, NC) itstrue at earthlink.net or (alternate) itstrue at mailcity.com AUTOFAC reviews: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/8002 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leongmun at xxx.sg Fri Dec 12 01:59:09 1997 From: leongmun at xxx.sg (Leong Mun Wai) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:59:09 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Who's distributing B&S records in the US? Message-ID: <01bd06a1$88d98520$265d8489@default> Hi, Just intrested to know the above. Someone told me it was Virgin America?? :)LMW ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Fri Dec 12 10:17:02 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:17:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: b & s on the telephone References: Message-ID: <34910F1E.2433@virgin.net> And to all of you out there who haven't voted ... > the phone no. to vote for the best session is: > 0881 110 100 > i hope this is useful....! ;) Last day is today! Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Fri Dec 12 10:19:48 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 10:19:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: lyrics..... References: Message-ID: <34910FC4.ECB@virgin.net> Sarah wrote: > > Hiyee! > > Can i make some lyrics requests here? Please could somebody tell me the > lyrics to Electronic Renaissance PLEASE!!!!!! I'm going slightly insane! > > And 'Expectations' if you go to the fanclub site, there's a page with all the B&S lyrics: http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/lyrics/ try that! cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Fri Dec 12 11:49:13 1997 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (timminsc) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:49:13 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971212114913.007a8d80@mail.tcd.ie> I would just like to wish everyone a merry Xmas and a fab Hogmanay. I will have to sign off for the holidays as the computer people will probably go mental about the state of my in folder if I leave it too long. I hope everyone enjoys the concerts. Yippee, back to Glasgow!!!! Take festive care all. Until the new year, Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mavgc at xxx.uk Fri Dec 12 12:17:47 1997 From: mavgc at xxx.uk (Mr J J Sansom) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 12:17:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <971203115231_-802203296@mrin86.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: Can I be removed from this list please JJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mkorchia at xxx.fr Fri Dec 12 10:28:24 1997 From: mkorchia at xxx.fr (Michael Korchia) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 11:28:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bossa Nova Message-ID: <349111C8.1AD4@club-internet.fr> I think this message never made it to the list. I m sending it again. -- Michael Korchia mkorchia at club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/05/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/00/aurore/emumbly.htm -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Michael Korchia Subject: Re: Sinister: Bossa Nova Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 01:10:02 +0100 Size: 1981 URL: From c9712536 at xxx.uk Fri Dec 12 18:51:18 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 13:51:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Christmas Greetings Message-ID: Just a quick message to say i'll be away from all that is email for Xmas as i finish Uni in about 2 hours. I'd just like to wish the list a Merry Christmas and hope all that are going enjoy the gigs, no doubt i'll bump into a few... Cheers Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From grthom at xxx.uk Fri Dec 12 14:33:36 1997 From: grthom at xxx.uk (G R Thomas) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:33:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Time, ladies and gentlemen, please... Message-ID: Dear all, Well, it's about that time again for my term to end and for me to return to the place they call 'home', for lots of Christams-related gubbins. So, I'm afraid that I have to unsubscribe for a while (the period of the holidays) as I won't be able to access the list (obviously). So you all have a great holiday, enjoy Manchester those that are going, and I'll speak to you all again in January. Seee ya, GIDEONxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Fri Dec 12 14:52:44 1997 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 09:52:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ATN Review Message-ID: <01BD06E3.B34AAB80@n168.natureny.com> There is a lovely review of IYFS on Addicted to Noise this week. Check it out at http://www.addict.com/html/hifi/Reviews/44.1kHz Enjoy! Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Fri Dec 12 15:42:05 1997 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:42:05 GMT Subject: Sinister: chestnuts roasting, etc. etc. Message-ID: <148205451BB@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Alienated by the online chatterboxes, and chilled by the Leeds cold, I'm going home for the holidays. Hopefully, I won't get stuck in a car with John Candy, or have to defend myself and my home from Joe Pesci with catapults and micro machines, and I'll see people in Manchester. If Christmas looms ahead without B&S live, with only the festive edition of the Radio Times to look forward to, think nice thoughts about 'The Box of Delights', Tim Burton, and 'Press Gang'-period Julia Sawahla, and make the most of it. Especially Hannah, who'll be missed loads as of Saturday. May all you Christmasses be white, Joseph xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Fri Dec 12 15:58:14 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:58:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: last n1te Message-ID: <199712121557.PAA00052@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> somewhere a guitar was being plucked. my head was shaking breaking dance beats off the streets as the strains of 'get me away from here im dying' became lost amongst the rumble . we were singing it as we walked on the pavement. we sang it when we realised there wasnt anything else to say i sang it when i knew no-one else could hear me. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Dec 12 16:12:33 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:12:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Bloody Holidays... Piss Off!! Message-ID: <01bd0718$c12c08e0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Well I'm NOT going to be going on any bloody holidays yet. I'll be stuck in front of a computer hacking C. Fan-Bloody-Tastic, all weekend too. That's the Christmas spirit. Oh well, never mind, I'll just get right stuck into the Christmas spirits tonight I reckon. David Nicoll, I'll give you a phone sometime this weekend to talk about this Manchester malarky. Cheers, Have a nice holiday then peepeelll. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Fri Dec 12 16:56:54 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:56:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: [Fwd: Is my little brother going to be able to..] References: Message-ID: <34916CD6.69FE@virgin.net> a friend wrote: > > > Is my little brother going to be able to go to the B&S gig (the 27th) in > > > Manchester? He's only 15, but he loves the band with all his heart. > > > Please say it isn't an over-18's only thing... > > > > > > Keep up the great work, > > > > > > Love > > > Adam. Ok, i don't really think they're going to be checking ID, but maybe you should phone the venue first - 0161 234 3039. I've just found out, however, that inside the actual hall bit, there will be no smoking or food/drinks (inc. stuff purchased from the bar) allowed inside. So, there is a bar, but you will have to drink/smoke in the bar area, and NOT whilst watching the bands. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Fri Dec 12 16:59:51 1997 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:59:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: ATN Review Message-ID: >On Fri, 12 Dec 1997 Paige said: > >There is a lovely review of IYFS on Addicted to Noise this week. >Check it out at >http://www.addict.com/html/hifi/Reviews/44.1kHz Hi HoneyList, Paige beat me to posting about this review, but since I had the text ready to go I'm sending it anyway, for those of you who don't have web access (gasp!) or are a bit lazy. ;-) I especially like the part about the songs entering her bloodstream. Read on ... ________________________________________________ If You're Feeling Sinister Belle And Sebastian EMI/Enclave Rating: Very Good -------------------------------------------------- Songs of Innocence and Experience By Jane Hadley I slide a new CD into the stereo and sprawl out on the floor -- even the couch seems impossibly high when my mood is this low. As I stare at the ceiling, I spy an abstract dark spot in the corner -- could be a dead spider, a bit of soot, a scrap of undigested beef, or a miniature projection of my own personal demon. While none of these possibilities seem too appealing, the soot would probably be easiest to exorcise. (I decide against the personal demon idea because I envision a more interesting-looking specter for myself.) For a minute it's so quiet ... "Get me away from here I'm dying/ Play me a song to set me free/ Nobody writes them like they used to/ So it may as well be me." And then the world-wielding voice of Belle and Sebastian's Stuart Murdoch comes through the speakers, singing stories that are ebullient, weary, funny, forlorn, and sardonic, sometimes all at once. In the title song, Hilary is obsessed with S&M and Bible studies, "not everyone's cup of tea," and walks to her death because "she couldn't think of anything to say." Anthony kills himself "because he thought he'd never feel this way again." Murdoch's heroically fragile characters all are obsessed with something: sex, spirit, ambition, horses: "Judy got a book at school/ She went under the cover with her torch/ She fell asleep till it was morning/ She dreamt about the girl who stole a horse." In the brilliantly realized folk-pop world of this Glasgow band, feelings of awkwardness and loneliness become noble and, well, almost cheery. In fact, before I know it I'm up and dancing, shufflestepping in and out of shadows and light. Bleary-eyed and snuffling, I am tapping my feet -- against my will -- tapping away, and at some point -- I don't know how or why, and it kind of freaks me out -- sparks start flying, red and blue ones, tiny little sparks, flying off my feet, zigzagging around my toes and heels, warming my soles and surging up through my legs. The last store of back energy I have I use to kick up some fancy steps. Soon I summon the will to leave the cozy claustrophobia of my apartment for the cold grayness outside. Once on the sidewalk, I step on all the cracks and whisper-sing "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying." People give me worried looks. But I'm okay, I'm fine -- in fact, suddenly I'm perversely happy, or at least high. And that's when I realize that these songs have entered my bloodstream and transformed the spartan furnishings of my lonely heart. They've dragged in a bunch of coffee- and wine-stained couches and have made themselves at home. They're keeping me company. The best sad songs sound joyful -- they're tricksters who grab your hand and lead you onto the dance floor, and before you know it your tears blend with sweat, and you start to feel alive again ... in pain, yes, but delirious, feverish, dancing along to the sound of your heart breaking -- not ascending but descending into the heart of whatever miscellaneous suffering you've accumulated. And therein, you might find, lies transcendence. SOUND CLIPS (45 second samples) Belle And Sebastian, "If Youre Feeling Sinister" Belle And Sebastian, "Get Me Away From Here, Im Dying" Belle And Sebastian, "Judy And The Dream Of Horses" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Fri Dec 12 16:59:57 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 16:59:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: IMPOSTER References: Message-ID: <34916D8D.3951@seahouses.u-net.com> Mr J J Sansom wrote: > > Can I be removed from this list please > > JJ It's not me!!!!!!!!! I don't want to be unsubbed from the list!!! I love you all! the REAL JJ xxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Fri Dec 12 18:08:31 1997 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 18:08:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manc Town Hall Message-ID: Has anyone actually seen a pop concert ('gig' still makes me feel kind of queasy - not sure why. Mind you 'pop' is getting that way too - always seems to be used to make a point these days. Ooops - digression!) at the Manchester Town Hall? Yep, I saw Fretblanket and Mel Garside play there as part of some 'In The City' type thing. It's a huge room, easily holds over 1000 so it'll be a bit breezy at the back if the fire limit is 700. It's also got a high ceiling but hopefully they'll be draping it to help the sound. No-one was at the gig I saw except for Steve Lamacq who danced like a loon on his own in the middle of the room to Fretblanket's set. Mel Garside cried afterwards, presumably because it was so empty and the gig was a bit demoralising (well, Lamacq didn't dance while she was on!) But it's got no sightline problems or anything like that. Parking for free wasn't an option if I remember rightly, there's some great big car park up the road but no street parking. What else could you possibly need to know? Oh yeah - it's got a bar.... Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Fri Dec 12 19:03:47 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 97 19:03:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: I'm washing my keyboard with soap and water as we speak Message-ID: <971212190347.n0006623.tormentor@mail.clara.net> well, as I'm so sensible and organised I've decided to think up the questions I would like to pose to our pop heroes in advance, so i can be all ready, like. I just wanted to make sure they will pass the censors first (Honey, yes, you) Stuart Murdoch: You've seen 'Star Test', so in that vein, would you care to pick five adjectives out of the following list that best describe your personality? gay, sophisticated, sensitive, rampant, bizarre, gay, nervous, tactless, intelligent, moody, gay, thoughtful, carefree, casual, ambiguos, gay. Sarah, lovely Sarah: Whenever you blow on your recorder you have a smirk on your face, what are you thinking about? Chris Geddes: Ian Brown once said that it was almost impossible to wear flares with a leg width of more than 21 inches. How big is yours? Stuart Davids question is too rude to print. Richard Colburn: Being the drummer in the band, you probably get a lot of fan mail, in fact you must get piles!! Stevie: funny little stevie, do you play the banjo as a hobby or for a dare? Isobel: how many band members have you actually slept with? Well, what do you think? bit rude maybe? susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jesandy at xxx.edu Fri Dec 12 20:15:44 1997 From: jesandy at xxx.edu (Jennifer ) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 15:15:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: more deceptions Message-ID: <01bd073a$b9d9d3c0$1e169f95@jimmy..> ahh, do i have a mishearing for you lot! thanks to the lovely ivo (thank you!) i now have a copy of tigermilk (i feel like i'm joining some sacred society or something!) and of course it is wonderful. but before i read the lyrics to "you're just a baby", i thought he was singing- "and i will be the tootsie to go off your head." hmm, not quite sure what this means but it sounds nice. i'm sure more mishearings will be forthcoming because i am notorious for not understanding lyrics. have a happy holidays everyone! i hope some of you stay on the list over the holiday break so i'll have some email to read. i will be obsessively checking it due to lack of anything better to do at my house. ta! jennifer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skg21 at xxx.uk Fri Dec 12 20:23:57 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (S.K. Gardiner) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 20:23:57 +0000 (gmt) Subject: Sinister: Questions to ask B&S In-Reply-To: <971212190347.n0006623.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: Well all I know is that if this chat session with the band ever does take place, someone had better ask whether Elvis is in fact a dog, cat or sprig of broccolli... I had a weird experience earlier. I was listening to my Tigermilk tape on a Walkman, when I went over a bump (I was walking at the time) and the tape jumped. And it was the first time ever that Stuart has actually managed to reach the high note in She's Losing It... Stuart G Still slogging away at coursework for another week :-( ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iwh at xxx.com Fri Dec 12 20:55:06 1997 From: iwh at xxx.com (Ian W Halliday) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 09:55:06 +1300 Subject: Sinister: Pop Music? Merkan distribution? Television Personalities? Message-ID: <3491A4A9.7136@pacific-ocean.com> Ignoring for a moment those people who use 'pop' as a derogatory term, and recalling that my father called everything he didn't like 'jazz', I remember that the early Pink Floyd albums bore the extraodinary instruction "File Under Pop Music" but I don't know whether the stores ever did that. A visit to http://www.cdnow.com/ will reveal that Sinister is distributed by EMD/Capitol, quote a review from Rolling Stone giving it 4.5 out of 5 and offer 30 second soundbites of five of the songs. Finally, does anybody notice any similarities between B&S and the Television Personalities (all together now, WHO????) Ian -- +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Visit my home pages at http://members.tripod.com/~iwh/ | | Travel pages http://jump.to/vanuatu | +--------------------------------------------------------+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjouan at xxx.com Fri Dec 12 22:04:58 1997 From: mjouan at xxx.com (Michelle Jouan) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 14:04:58 -0800 Subject: Sinister: tvp Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971212220458.006a7854@mailbox.previewtravel.com> >Finally, does anybody notice any similarities between B&S and the >Television Personalities (all together now, WHO????) we know who they are!! but we don't necessarily agree with you! :) michelle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Fri Dec 12 22:30:18 1997 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 17:30:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: tvp In-Reply-To: <2.2.32.19971212220458.006a7854@mailbox.previewtravel.com> Message-ID: well the tvp's have a very similar sounding lead voice to stuart m. in it's little boy-ish ness. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ "Un homage to a sharp kid." A head that's fed to a dancer's arse, a gambler of youth, a sulphate-skinny creature of envy. A modern day figurine born of Colin Machinnes. >From his feather cut top to the depths of his sub-atomic soul on top of the world. These Animal Men On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Michelle Jouan wrote: > >Finally, does anybody notice any similarities between B&S and the > >Television Personalities (all together now, WHO????) > > we know who they are!! but we don't necessarily agree with you! > > :) > michelle > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Fri Dec 12 23:41:28 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 00:41:28 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: P!O!P! Music ? Right, the Television Personalities ... Message-ID: <199712122341.AAA24679@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> At 09:55 13.12.1997 +1300, Ian W Halliday wrote ... Ooops ... + 1300 ... where do you live ??? >early Pink Floyd >Finally, does anybody notice any similarities between B&S and the >Television Personalities (all together now, WHO????) "So it may as well be me" ... what do you have in mind ? The bossa nova guitar part on "The prettiest girl in the world", the line "Boy on the bike, what are you like" being inspired by "Girl on a motorcycle", "Judy and the dream of horses" (alternatively, "Dog on wheels" ... "Promise you'll always be around when I call") being inspired by "Magnificient dreams" ("And if you need someone, I'll be here if you should fall, I'll be here with open arms to catch you"), the piano on "Who will be your prince ?" or the trumpet part on "I hope you have a nice day" ? That "A century of fakers" is almost as beautiful as "Haunted" ? Or that "A century of fakers" could have been the Nineties "A sense of belonging" for its lyrical content ? That the media attitude of B&S could be described as "You can keep your hits and your silver discs, I'll stick two fingers to fame" ("Hard luck story number 39") ? That the "Songs for children" debut 7" by the Pastels was issued on Dan Treacy's Whaam! Records ? That B&S are the new hopes to produce a perfect P!O!P! album such as "Privilege" ? The similarly high voices of Stuart and Dan ? The common genius ? Alright, you probably mean the similarity between "A century of Elvis" and "She loves it when he sings like Elvis". Oh well ... that would be boring ... Bodil & Andreas "He was very famous Once upon a time And no-one cares Even if he's alive" (Daniel Treacy) B&A: "We do !" D: "Ooh! Get me away from here I'm dying" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iwh at xxx.com Sat Dec 13 00:35:29 1997 From: iwh at xxx.com (Ian W Halliday) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 13:35:29 +1300 Subject: Sinister: P!O!P! Music ? Right, the Television Personalities ... References: <199712122341.AAA24679@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <3491D851.238E@pacific-ocean.com> Perfection As A Hipster wrote: > Ooops ... + 1300 ... where do you live ??? New Zealand ... first to see the sun Thank you for your prompt and educated comments about the TVP. > That B&S are the new hopes to produce a perfect P!O!P! album such as > "Privilege" ? Of the suggestions you made, this one is probably closest to the mark. Remember, they could have been bigger than the Beatles. Ian -- +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Visit my home pages at http://members.tripod.com/~iwh/ | | Travel pages http://jump.to/vanuatu | +--------------------------------------------------------+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Sat Dec 13 01:19:07 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 02:19:07 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: P!O!P! Music ? Right, the Television Personalities ... Message-ID: <199712130119.CAA29479@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Ian W Halliday wrote ... >Thank you for your prompt and educated comments about the TVP. TVPs. >> That B&S are the new hopes to produce a perfect P!O!P! album such as >> "Privilege" ? >Of the suggestions you made, this one is probably closest to the mark. >Remember, they could have been bigger than the Beatles. I'll keep it in mind. §;^D >>Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:31:37 +0100 (MET) >>To: Andrew.Dean at BULL.NET, sinister at majordomo.net >>From: Perfection As A Hipster >>Subject: Re: Sinister: slow graffiti lyrics >> >>Andrew Deen wrote ... >> >>>um, andreas, surely you mean '*the* picture of dorian gray'? >> >>Nope, I was referring to "A picture of Dorian Gray" by the * Television >>Personalities *, available on the "... and don't the kids just love it" >>album ... the loving kids know that they could have been bigger than the >>Beatles ... "Love hurts" (Mixers) Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Leelorn at xxx.com Sat Dec 13 12:14:41 1997 From: Leelorn at xxx.com (Leelorn) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 07:14:41 EST Subject: Sinister: MERRY XMAS AND A HAPPY NEW YEAR! Message-ID: <15b1f41f.34927c33@aol.com> Hi there everyone...just a short message to say have a brill xmas and i'll see you all at the BandS gig on the 28th.I got a copy of tigermilk from a mate of mine the other day and it is absolutely amazing!See ya later Lorna x. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From robinh at xxx.com Sat Dec 13 14:57:03 1997 From: robinh at xxx.com (robinh at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 09:57:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: good hello Message-ID: cheers and luv to all on Sinister from cold and inhospitable Cleveland, Ohio. i s'pose i should get this out of the way up front, since it must drive you diehard B&S enthusiasts batty to see it again and again: i am ISO a halfway decent tape of Tigermilk. method of compensation (i.e. trades, etc) is way negotiable. i'd really love to hear this album once and for all. also: anyone know when (or if) the B&S appearance on the PBS music program(me) Sessions at West 54th will make it to air? apologies if this is treading over ground already covered... perhaps i should shut up & hit the mailing list archives... yrs humbly ---robin h. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Sat Dec 13 12:13:57 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 12:13:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Plop Music Message-ID: <01bd07c0$966c30f0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >>>um, andreas, surely you mean '*the* picture of dorian gray'? >> >>Nope, I was referring to "A picture of Dorian Gray" by the * Television Well as the "The", "A" debate continues on, I'd like to say what a good laugh IRC was nast night. See you all again soon. Cheers, Keith ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Matilda.Moore at xxx.com Sat Dec 13 18:21:01 1997 From: Matilda.Moore at xxx.com (Matilda Moore) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 18:21:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: No Subject Message-ID: Unsubscribe Sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnston at xxx.uk Sat Dec 13 19:22:37 1997 From: johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston Family) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 1997 19:22:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sinister Message-ID: <882041138.2022658.0@filthyswan.demon.co.uk> The bit at the end of ' i could be dreaming' is Isobel reading from ( i think) Rumpell Stiltskin. And, yes Susannah, i think your 'star test' questions are very rude. A failed pop star, by any chance? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sat Dec 13 19:59:10 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:59:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #94 Message-ID: <199712131959.OAA22072@Vector.inexpress.net> > >"A hand over my mouth / A hand over the window" Just listening to this last >night and wondering what other people think it might be referring to. Don't >worry all you analysisophobes - I'm quite happy for it to stay a lovely >ambiguous line without particular meaning, but I just thought maybe I was >missing something obvious. Is it all the other boys turning from queuing to >marauding, perhaps? > >Nick There's a lot of things it could be right? I suppose it could be a fingre to the lips like 'shhhh' he doesn't want to speak of what he's doing,and a hand over the window to block people from seeing what he's doing....or it could be a passionate moment,a hand over his mouth and a hand trying to pull down the shades,you know clothes and leoapard print underwear flying unto lampshade and celing fan? Dear sinister people, hello! Are you all doing well,I am just loving Belle and Sebastian more,and I declared this to lovely boy at recordstore...ahhhh..he knows me! I asked (even though I knew it is the UNOBTAINABLE item) and today,now I ordered it weeks ago..he shyly told me he would not be able to get it for me,with the lovely smile and oohhh!It's strange..the counter there,once they go down to get the cd,it's like a magical place,he was down there for a while..and I jumped when his lovely little head reappeared holding a cd...oh,this isn't special to you guitar gods,but I can Get Me Away From here,I'm Dying on the guitar..doesn't sound perfect,but I learn. I'm so jealous of all you,how lucky you can all meet up..I have come to conclusion,as soon as I graduate I'm going to England,even if I'm not allowed... i went to a dance last night,it is crazy all the tearfull things that happen between the couples,all the making up when the slow song comes on,now if I was there with Spinable boy we'd be doing a funky dance to that part in photo Jenny 'they got the drugs I could use them but I don't want any' now my feet are a bit sore,do you know how much hip twisting you have to do during all that puff daddy. I have a Math exam on monday,oh dear! now don't be stupid,cause you're all looking great..you are!;) kisses,Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ds3624a at xxx.edu Sat Dec 13 20:24:22 1997 From: ds3624a at xxx.edu (Damon Seils) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 15:24:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sinister References: <882041138.2022658.0@filthyswan.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <3492EEF5.F283947F@american.edu> Hey...I thought Susannah's questions were hilarious. There was a great discussion about them in the chat room yesterday. Quite good, I think. Lighten up... Damon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Dec 13 21:01:51 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 21:01:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester meet... Message-ID: <3492F7BF.D0BE40B2@totalweb.co.uk> ... still needs minor organising but to help speed things up a bit, could everyone who can in Manchester please look at the following places and report back with opinions 1) Night and Day cafe 2) Dome restaurant/bar 3) any decent pubs near the Town Hall what we need to know is; a) are they nice venues? b) would they hold 50 people easily? c) would you want to go there? d) what food do they serve? e) do they have age restrictions? f) are they open on the Saturday AND Sunday? if not, which day? your help is deeply appreciated, we've already got some plans, but this will help finalise them and set them in stone (or the web site). thanks david kitchen @ the fanclub -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Dec 13 20:56:15 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 20:56:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ink Polaroid Competition Message-ID: <3492F66E.36A964AC@totalweb.co.uk> well, we finally got round to jdging this, actually we'd decided the winner ages ago but hoping that the band and a few other people would offer their opinion. so the winner of the four posters (one for each Jeepster release to date) and the t-shirt of choice is Jonathon Mackie, his was entrant no' 15 (in our numbered list) and will get his prize pickings as soon as he gets in contact with us and lets us know where he wants them sent. to all the other entrants, we really enjoyed reading them all and had fun judging, thank you for putting the effort in. your efforts an be viewed permanently on the fan club site under the link called fiction , i hope this will inspire you to write something more when the fiction part of the site is developed to include the forthcoming book idea (details to follow in the new year). anyway, here's that winning entry in full... 15 From: jonathon mackie This one's my favourite. It's from around seven years ago, when my dad took myself and my sister up to the dams in the country. It was just after my dad and mum had split up, towards the end of the summer. The year before, my dad had taken a nervous breakdown and had mellowed out, learned to show his feelings a bit more. Trouble is, he showed his feelings to another woman as well. The dams are always one of my favourite places. They're right on the boundary between the country and the city, and they're right beside the wee town I used to go to to play tennis with my uncle, even though I had to borrow a racquet because I couldn't afford my own. It wasn't really a town, more like a scheme that happened to be outside the city limits. My dad told me the dams supplied water to thousands of people in the city, and they'd been built a hundred years ago and still remained intact. You can see me in the background, sitting on the edge of a large pool of water. There's a small waterfall running into the pool. My dad and my sister are in front of me, staring into the camera, squinting cause of the sun. I'm wearing my red and white striped polo top, which I got for my 11th birthday from my mum. There's car in the background too, speeding past on the small road. I started the big school that year, stopped reading Smash Hits and started reading Melody Maker and NME. I had my first instance of true love that year, but nothing happened. My dad wasn't as bald then as he is now. I like him more now than I did then. My mum's not in the picture, which is sad. It was a really nice sunny day. again, thanks for your support and patience david kitchen & katrina house @ the fanclub -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sat Dec 13 21:29:00 1997 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 16:29:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Elvis Sightings Message-ID: <199712131629_MC2-2BDD-B912@compuserve.com> Hi All What's all this broccoli nonsense? When I talked to Stuart David after the Colchester Arts Centre gig and asked him whether Elvis was a cat, because he sounds just like mine, he said yes. Best wishes to all those able to see the forthcoming gigs and hope they are as brilliant as the two I've seen this year. David Moore Chelmsford, UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sun Dec 14 03:13:49 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 13 Dec 1997 22:13:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Stuart David..mrrrrowwww... Message-ID: <199712140313.WAA25275@Vector.inexpress.net> Hello! I juste come back from a little Christmas concert,and I'm a little scared,these 5 girls did backstreet boys video (quebec goes mad for them) and I was laughing a little,becuase i thought it was a joke,but it was serious, got soem evil glare from the werewolf woman.... Alright..this was weird,I actually some soem clear,visible pictures of the other members (instead of just Stuart Murdoch) On this one homepage,there is a picture of Stuart David playing an accordian (is that all he does?) and he looks just like this alluring one we will call Sousa.. (goes to my school) I mean,identical,same downward look,when Sousa plays tambourine.... is there any interesting stories or information...(I know nothing of him!) of this little angel Stuart David? you're taking me ov-ah.... love love, Genevieve :0 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sallydoll at xxx.net Sun Dec 14 19:11:39 1997 From: sallydoll at xxx.net (Acrylica) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:11:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I AM Elvis Message-ID: <199712141933.TAA28233@boober.lineone.net> Hello, I'm new. I know it's your godgiven right to now proceed to flush my head down the loo, but before u do, I'll just introduce meself. Um, Ok... I'm Acrylica (well, I mean I obviously wasn't christened as that, 'cos I'd have to have had pretty weird hippy-dippy, texturally-inclined parents), my real name being Sally, which is too sweet, nice, girly and middle-class - everything I'm not, ha ha! I'm fed up with introducing myself now, so the only things you need to know are: I've red hair, my favourite item of clothing is my dalmation-print furry romper suit (as anyone who's on the Pulp list will know!), I'm glittery with a pessimistic inside, and I was..er.. a Pampers baby. I've tried to get on this here list several times, but the command's always failed - probably due to my abysmal typing... ooh, ooh Teletubbies!... Er, sorry about that, but the little space toddlers themselves just came on the radio (well, not literally...)... oh, yeah, I could never get on it. But that's all in the past now (along with November, if my calendar's to be believed). I was going to have a really attention-grabbing Subject Title ("Manchester Town Hall Eaten By Giant Yeti"?), but when I did that on Lipgloss ("New Tour Announced"!) it caused several heart attacks, nervous breakdowns and backlashes; I always feel more emotionally fragile when listening to B&S then Pulp, so I won't frighten u all. OK, that's all for now... Lots of love and (very new) iguanas... Acrylica (going on the 28th, ooh yes!) sallydoll at lineone.net P.S.: Elvis is indeed a cat, but not any old cat, ooh no! He is in fact a bloody huge bengal tiger, and that's why he's allowed to watch the E-files - I mean would you argue with an animal that size? Wee Karn has obviously being watching 999 Lifesavers and knows to keep him talking, in order to pacify the beast. God, it's just sooooooo obvious! ;-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sun Dec 14 19:27:23 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:27:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: katie kinnear? Message-ID: <3494331B.880A56A3@totalweb.co.uk> does anyone have her e-mail address at the mo? i seem to have lost mine after various drama's with my mail program and have some news to pass to her. so, katie, if you (or someone that knows you) are reading this, please reply A.S.A.P. so you can hear your good fortune thanks david kitchen @ the fanclub -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sun Dec 14 19:05:00 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:05:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: places to find b&s things Message-ID: <34942DDC.B8EBD9F1@totalweb.co.uk> i've noticed (and it's been pointed out) that a lot of people seem to be asking for information on lyrics, old threads on the list and other stuff that is well represented on the web. i know this is really Paul's job, but could i urge you all to check the web-sites before posting to the list, most info can be found quite easily there. to give you an idea where to go for what, try; * http://www.totalweb.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ o the band's and press's interpretation of who b&s are o news & events (from the bands perspective) o sound samples for new songs o postcard competition o ink polaroids o ink movies o Stuart David's links o articles written by fans o sound samples of Tigermilk songs o sound samples of Sinister songs * http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ o ink polaroids written by fans o lyrics to every released song o official merchandise + on-line orderig system o old mail-outs o java based magnetic poetry o chat - software download and full details of how to use it o compass link to all the sites mentioned here * http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/ o new stuff o subscribe to the mailing list o archives for the mailing list (fully searchable) o mailing list FAQ o sheet music (guitar chords) o inter-active comments form * http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~hahndorf/bas/ o index (discography and sound samples) o interviews (from various sources, UK press and stuff) o reviews (from various sources, UK press and stuff) o live reviews (from various sources including Andy's own brilliant contribution) o news (site updates and major news) o notes on the site and b&s * http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ o an e-zine of related music and fiction o lazy line painter jane review o sinister article o union chapel review o belle lettres (a longer shorter fiction, based over a series of web pages with characters very much in the b&s vein) you can find all of these links a lot easier by using the compass tool that is built into the exit part of the Fan Club site. to get to the compass directly: http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/compass2.htm i hope this helps you all to find what you want, if you still can't find what you wan though, just let us know and someone will add it to a site :) thanks david kitchen @ the fanclub -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Dec 14 21:31:25 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 21:31:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Town Hall Eaten By Giant Yeti In-Reply-To: <199712141933.TAA28233@boober.lineone.net> Message-ID: Sorry to be so impatient, but is there any news about the Sunday matinee performance that Katrina said she'd give us details about 4 days ago? Only I'll be off e-mail after this week, and I don't want to miss out on anything... Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TFertig3 at xxx.com Mon Dec 15 00:22:53 1997 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 19:22:53 EST Subject: Sinister: philadelphia review Message-ID: <4cafa07.34947860@aol.com> i'm not sure if anyone else on the list is from or near philadelphia, but there was an article on belle and sebastian in the philadelphia weekly newspaper. i was very surprised to see anything on them in such a mainstream newspaper. weird. i'm not sure if it is a good thing or a bad thing. anyway, the review was very positive. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Mon Dec 15 00:48:18 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Sun, 14 Dec 1997 22:48:18 -0200 Subject: Sinister: philadelphia review & a Brazilian one Message-ID: <199712142300.XAA06229@gemeos.electus.com.br> > i'm not sure if anyone else on the list is from or near philadelphia, but > there was an article on belle and sebastian in the philadelphia weekly > newspaper. i was very surprised to see anything on them in such a mainstream > newspaper. weird. i'm not sure if it is a good thing or a bad thing. anyway, > the review was very positive. There's review of IYFS on a Brazilian magazine this month. I did no buy it cause it's crap.. but someone told me that is a BIG review. They wrote that B&S is a band to people who are missing the 80's. something like the best band since Smiths. I will get this review and will try to translate to English. Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From D.J.Nunn at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 10:04:30 1997 From: D.J.Nunn at xxx.uk (D.J.Nunn at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 10:04:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: manchester gigs Message-ID: <349500AE.41A6@smtphost.dur.ac.uk> Does anyone know if the Manchester gigs have sold out yet or is it still possible to buy tickets in Manchester? Ta. Dan. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 13:31:10 1997 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:31:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the street Message-ID: O.K. walking through a dark alley (stupid I know, but I'm just a girl) on the way home after spending the day wandering round bookshops off the Charing Cross Road and having sat next to a grumpy old man on the train back to good old Rochester, knackered because books are bloody heavy you know (but I love them anyways) and feeling kind of numb because that's how London leaves me (all those people with so many places to go), I saw it up ahead in the orangey glow from a (*tasteful* pseudo-Victorian) streetlight. Then it shook its bushy tail and trotted off into the darkness. I went home. Liz Daplyn (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) P.S. Does anyone like (or has even heard of) Ivor Cutler? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mbge5dss at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 14:00:09 1997 From: mbge5dss at xxx.uk (The Spod) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:00:09 BST Subject: Sinister: (Fwd) Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: ph In-Reply-To: <11525781D2B@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <118CE6E3F10@fs1.eng.man.ac.uk> > From: "Cairns" > Organization: University of Leeds > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Date: Wed, 10 Dec 1997 12:43:50 GMT > Subject: Sinister: (Fwd) Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: ph.ac.ed.uk: h > Reply-to: "Cairns" > Thanks for using NetForward! > http://www.netforward.com > v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > > Just a quick suggestion but "Why don't You" have some heese on toast from Afflecks palace (next to vinyl exchnage almost) x-tra cheesy is best with tomato ketchup and finish off with a cup of hot chocolate with marshmallowy bits mmmmmm tasty :) dan For once this has some notable B&S content, but I've gotta be quick. > > Last night we went to Ben Folds Five in Bradford, and my pal Ross > interviewed the man himself for the paper. Glowing with pride from > the piano man's compliments about his hair, Ross later informed us > that, not only is Ben Folds a massive Radiohead fan (and...), but > that he absolutely adores B&S, and is desperate to get hold of > a copy of Tigermilk. How we laughed as we thought that, whilst he may > have a multi-million dollar recording contract and a top twenty hit > in America (is this true, Yanks?), he may never have heard 'She's > Losing It'. > > Oh, I had an idea to brighten up the devotees' trips to the rainy > city. Why don't the people who know the place kind of, um, give > pointers as to good places to visit during the weekend, things to do, > etc. Like 'Why Don't You', only minus Declan Donnely. > I'll begin, if you like: > #1 - visit Vinyl Exchange and annoy Julian. > Not just because it really is the swankiest plastic emporium > in the North (apart from Picadilly), but because Julian, the Smile > guy, works there sometimes. > He'll probably be downstairs, smoking and filing U2 albums or > something, looking grumpy. When you go in, you've got to ask him > whether they've got 'Tigermilk', upon which he will smile and say: > "Ha ha ha, no, but, actually, I have a copy, of my very own, on > vinyl, it really is superb, I've had it ages." He enjoys saying this, > BUT, if every other fool in there asks him the same question and then > giggles, he'll start to get paranoid, which'll be really funny. Okay, > maybe it won't, but at least I've shown some initiative. > Also, he hates students, so go on about your course and cheap booze > in unions and that'll be cool, too. Actually don't, this is cruel, > 'cos Julian's a top bloke and once let us sleep on his floor. In fact > this whole idea sucks. Grrrrrr. > Finally, did anyone else laugh at Capt. Bob Stanley talking about > Marianne Faithful on 'Brit Girls' on Saturday. > > I'm off now, > Joseph > xxx > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > J !!The Spod!! "Toddlers - Stormtroopers of the Dark Lord of Entropy" "TACT - Describing others as they see themselves" E-mail@ the.spod at deathsdoor.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tai_aharonov at xxx.com Mon Dec 15 14:08:19 1997 From: tai_aharonov at xxx.com (Tai Aharonov) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:08:19 PST Subject: Sinister: B&S and Ben Folds 5 Pt 2 Message-ID: <19971215140819.918.qmail@hotmail.com> Did anyone else see the Ben Folds Five gig at the QM here in Glasgow on Friday night, with their enthusiasm about B&S, taken as far as a brief rendition of "Stars of Track and Field"..... Ooh, my tickets for Manchester have arrived. It's sooooo exciting!!! See ya, Tai xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mbge5dss at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 14:35:17 1997 From: mbge5dss at xxx.uk (The Spod) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:35:17 BST Subject: Sinister: why don't you In-Reply-To: <118CE6E3F10@fs1.eng.man.ac.uk> References: <11525781D2B@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <11964344EA7@fs1.eng.man.ac.uk> > > > Oh, I had an idea to brighten up the devotees' trips to the rainy > > city. Why don't the people who know the place kind of, um, give > > pointers as to good places to visit during the weekend, things to > > do, etc. Like 'Why Don't You', only minus Declan Donnely. I'll > > begin, if you like: > > #1 - visit Vinyl Exchange and annoy Julian. > > Not just because it really is the swankiest plastic > > emporium > > in the North (apart from Picadilly), but because Julian, the Smile > > guy, works there sometimes.> > > Just a quick suggestion but "Why don't You" have some heese on toast > from Afflecks palace (next to vinyl exchnage almost) x-tra cheesy is > best with tomato ketchup and finish off with a cup of hot chocolate > with marshmallowy bits > > mmmmmm tasty :) > > dan > J !!The Spod!! "Toddlers - Stormtroopers of the Dark Lord of Entropy" "TACT - Describing others as they see themselves" E-mail@ the.spod at deathsdoor.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Dec 15 15:46:22 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:46:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: OOo lots of stuff Message-ID: Wow, you lot are quiet - all busy swinging from the chandeliers in the chatroom probably. Well the final list of people going to Manchester is now on my WWW page, courtesy of the heroic Andrew Dean at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/#stuff I think there's more details coming about meeting up/aftershow etc. - watch out for Tag, David and Katrina's mailings soon. If we all wear a pair of tinsel angel wings we should be able to spot each other. Chat details: the band are still keen and it looks like we will set a date well into January now, but timing is still unclear - it may possibly have to be daytime on a weekday UK time, but I suspect an early evening would be more popular. Again keep watching the list. Even after loads of students leaving the list for hols we're now up to 390 people, so welcome all new people and don't worry about the quietness of the list just now: come January you'll have too many mails to deal with and will all shout at me. In fact I think we'll have a competition about who can be the saddest and send a message on Christmas day to the list. We'll be watching. Finally I'm still under the weather and dead bizzy at work, but everyone who's mailed asking for help with getting into the chatroom - well it's coming so please hang on! Honey P.S. Soozy get well soon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 16:32:38 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 16:32:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Piles of stuff Message-ID: <01bd0977$0eb60510$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Just to keep you people informed... Susannah, after my so far failed attempt at finding out Chris's 'Flare' statistics, my flatmate's got snowpatrol in the studio today, and I'm going down in a couple of days to do some guitar on a Finitribe record that Grant's remixing, so I can ask Richard about his piles (I've asked Grant to do it, but he'll no doubt forget). Obviously not a lot going on at the moment being very quiet, everyone's busy doing the biz in the chat room. Peter - where are you - join in the chatty fun! Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 20:42:12 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:42:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: OOo lots of stuff References: Message-ID: <34959624.431E3A2F@mail.zynet.co.uk> > In fact I think we'll > have a competition about who can be the saddest > and send a message on > Christmas day to the list. We'll be watching. what would be even sadder is to see who turns up for a christmas day chat session... i might be persuaded, after a few glasses of champers of course :-) the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Mon Dec 15 21:09:56 1997 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:09:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: YES!! Message-ID: <01BD099E.0E586A00.jon.g@btinternet.com> jon g. here, just to say that I am thrilled about Sunday 28th Dec. Wow! we have got to have a secret handshake or something like that. i am well excited are you? send something to the list soon to get me in more of a state 13 days to go!!!! jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Pam_Berry at xxx.com Mon Dec 15 22:14:00 1997 From: Pam_Berry at xxx.com (Pam Berry) Date: 15 Dec 97 17:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the even sadder state I am in Message-ID: <199712152205.WAA17225@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> the duke said: what would be even sadder is to see who turns up for a christmas day chat session... i might be persuaded, after a few glasses of champers of course :-) and I'm saying: hey, my middle name is "even sadder!" I'll be spending christmas alone in my own house sans family for the first time ever and... it's gonna be great! before I get on a plane to london that evening, I have every intention of knocking back a few stiff ones, watching a bunch of old flicks, getting take-out somethingorother, and sitting around in my jammies in front of the computer for a christmas visit to the chat room with the most frozen food flingage around. count me sad but not ashamed! see some of you there maybe... cheers, pam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 22:24:10 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:24:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the street References: Message-ID: <3495AE0A.492DF888@totalweb.co.uk> ELIZABETH DAPLYN wrote: > P.S. Does anyone like (or has even heard of) Ivor Cutler? you'll find there's a secret clan of cutler admirers present on this list, but then with poetry like his, what would anyone expect. david @ the fanclub -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 22:23:29 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 22:23:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: RICKY HAGGET AND STEVE CLARKE! In-Reply-To: <3494F45F@hermes.hud.ac.uk> Message-ID: Just to let you know that i've just posted yur tigermilks! sorry this has to go to the list, but i've lost you adresses! sorry!!!!! :( -- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul.Dean at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 23:18:49 1997 From: Paul.Dean at xxx.uk (Paul Dean) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 23:18:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the even sadder state I am in Message-ID: <01BD09AF.CD459C60@pine.druid.co.uk> Oh dear there seems to be a bit of a theme developing here. I too will be alone Xmas day. Thanks to work I will not be able to return to dear old blighty to see family, friends & B&S play a concert near to home for the first time. so it's HungryMan Turkey dinner for me followed by phoning home for dear lizzies speech (bound to be a corker this year!), then off to the cinema for the opening of 'Jackie Brown', or maybe to Cambridge to see 'The Godfather'. ummm now i think about this Xmas is going to be a blinder........just need to work out the chat room business 1 - B&S bits - I played my girlfriend some B&S for the first time this weekend 3,6,9 seconds of light. She liked it & told me how rude Judy Blume books were. (I think i'll buy her Sinister for chrimbo - nice). I'm going to New York on the 27th, so i figure it would be kind of nice & perverse to visit the venues they played for the CMJ while you lot are movin' & agroovin' in Manchester. Anyone offer any directions?. Finally i managed my first B&S dream the other night phew! the only bits i remember were at the end of the concert they stood & sneered at everyones winsome behaviour! someone help........ festive felicitations to y'all Paul. >---------- >From: Pam Berry[SMTP:Pam_Berry at xxx.com] >Sent: 15 December 1997 17:14 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: the even sadder state I am in > > > and I'm saying: > hey, my middle name is "even sadder!" I'll be spending christmas alone > in my own house sans family for the first time ever and... it's gonna > be great! before I get on a plane to london that evening, I have every > intention of knocking back a few stiff ones, watching a bunch of old > flicks, getting take-out somethingorother, and sitting around in my > jammies in front of the computer for a christmas visit to the chat room > with the most frozen food flingage around. count me sad but not > ashamed! see some of you there maybe... > > cheers, > pam >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Mon Dec 15 23:01:53 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 18:01:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the street (no B&S content) References: Message-ID: <3495B6E1.59A7@interaccess.com> ELIZABETH DAPLYN wrote: > > O.K. walking through a dark alley (stupid I know, but I'm just a > girl) HEY! I hate it when you do that! What do you mean "just a girl?" Girls are a lot smarter than you're giving yourself credit for. It's boys that are stupid. I oughta know ;) > having sat next to a grumpy old man on > the train back to good old Rochester Was it Ivor?! > > P.S. Does anyone like (or has even heard of) Ivor Cutler? LOVE 'im! I wish his stuff came to America so I could find it with some ease. *sigh* If anyone wants to get me a Christmas gift...:) > Happy 'cos dinner's ready Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From simon.gooch at xxx.uk Mon Dec 15 21:04:55 1997 From: simon.gooch at xxx.uk (Simon Gooch) Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:04:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: Fox in the street Message-ID: <1997121521045584572@zetnet.co.uk> > O.K. walking through a dark alley (stupid I know, but I'm just a > girl) on the way home after spending the day wandering round bookshops > off the Charing Cross Road Hey, did you pop into Books etc.? It's cool, but understaffed and understocked in vital areas. Anyways, point is did ya spot a v.tall guy serving peeps with G.Coxon-ish glasses and a black shirt/tie affair. If so it was me. Anyone else popping in there for last min. Xmas shopping trips should say hi, look for Simon. It'll be me and I'm dead friendly (esp. to fans of the koolest band round at the mo/last year and a half...) Also a big hi to all the luvly folks who found their way down to the John Snow for my poppermost quiz. A good laff had by all, loads of crap prizes! Oh, and if the girls/boys who won the last place/bag of crap could mail us, please tell us what you thought of the deal you got! Has the bluetones T-shirt lost that "smell", or is it now a dishcloth? There'll be another one in early Feb, I'll let you all know. Some things: a) anyone read/bought/stolen the new Nick Drake biog? Anygood, it sells damn well (which is surprising for a realtively obscure folky boy book costing 20 quid, but v.v. cool that it does) b) this is prob and old thing, but anyone noticed the Mary Joe/ A winter's Tale connection? It's always on at work at the moment. They're saying they may let me play the Sinister CD after Xmas. Yip. c) Manchester - I heard about a club that someone is gonna do after the Sat gig. Sounded very cool, it may be on the web but I can't check it for now. If not does anyone know anything. My Manc mates reckon there are no good indie type clubs there that night. Dunno if that sounds right for a Saturday night though. Bye and night night, Simon -- *** Luv, hugs and kisses from Simon *** (aka Chipper! Fanzine aka Squirrel Fanciers' Quarterly) simon.gooch at zetnet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Tue Dec 16 07:28:21 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 97 07:28:21 GMT Subject: Sinister: Ivor Cutler Message-ID: <971216072821.n0006678.tormentor@mail.clara.net> You'll find a splendid site on Ivor Cutler at: http://www.issue.demon.co.uk/poetry/cutler/ and theres a newsgroup too!! alt.fan.ivor-cutler Susannah xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Dec 16 09:01:35 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 04:01:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: OOo lots of stuff In-Reply-To: <34959624.431E3A2F@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: i might actually be around on christmas day, from my parent's place and computer, they won't mind the phone charge, right? so i'll see whichever others of you are going into chat withdrawal on christas then. love and kisses....erm, snogs? laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rob at xxx.uk Tue Dec 16 14:39:48 1997 From: rob at xxx.uk (totv) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 97 14:39:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the street Message-ID: <882283079.2023321.0@totv.demon.co.uk> >Re: Sinister: Fox in the street Someone mentioned the Nick Drake biography just now. I will look out for the Graham Coxon glasses lookalike next time I am in Books Etc. By coincidence I met the bloke who wrote it on Sunday at a kids party my niece went to. He doesn't have children but he lived next door. He seemed really nice and we had a good chat about one of my musical heroes. He seemed genuinely surprised that there was so much interest in the book. But I don't think he knows quite how well it is selling. He also wrote a book (I think he's called Patrick something) about Fairport Convention so I asked him about Sandy Denny and tried to persuade him to write about her because she is fantastic and I wanted to know why she died falling down the stairs and whether it was a euphemism like 'tired and emotional'. Another subject entirely, but I just wondered whether any readers of this list have watched 'The Adam and Joe Show' in the last few weeks. It is connected slightly because there is a poster of 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' poster in the title sequence which unfortunately gets covered up by Beck I think. I sort of help produce it and its interesting to know what people think. I am going to see B & S with a couple of friend on the Sunday. ROB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Dec 16 16:07:16 1997 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:07:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the Snow. Message-ID: <01BD0A3C.AEA4E6C0@pc7628> Wow Spoooooooooooky..... It's been snowing here in Exeter this afternoon, and then I get an invoice on my desk from the local Motorway Maintenance Unit....wait for it.....for removing dead foxes off the M5 !!! Lovely. I'll get me coat. -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Dec 16 16:10:33 1997 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:10:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the Snow. Message-ID: <01BD0A3D.23BFD820@pc7628> Actually, if your interested the invoice was for : 6 Foxes; 3 Cats; 3 Badgers; 2 Deer; and a Dog on the A361. Just like a popular Crimbo carol !!! I'll just be off then. -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Dec 16 16:49:16 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:49:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox on the run Message-ID: <01bd0a42$8bdabf10$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Ha ha, nobody likes the list anymore, it's so passe now that IRC's all the rage :). A few years ago I swore to myself I'd never do any of these internet smiley things too! Anyway - off for the work night out tonight - so should be almost alive again by... say Friday. Take care people. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Tue Dec 16 17:49:51 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:49:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox on the run Message-ID: <199712161727.RAA16694@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> >>Ha ha, nobody likes the list anymore, it's so passe now that IRC's all the >rage :). I love the list! xxx john in the snow >---------- >From: Keith Watson[SMTP:keith at xxx.uk] >Sent: 16 Dec 1997 16:49 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Fox on the run > >Ha ha, nobody likes the list anymore, it's so passe now that IRC's all the >rage :). > >A few years ago I swore to myself I'd never do any of these internet smiley >things too! > >Anyway - off for the work night out tonight - so should be almost alive >again by... say Friday. > >Take care people. > >Keith. > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Tue Dec 16 17:28:12 1997 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 17:28:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: OOo lots of stuff Message-ID: <01BD0A4D.164AC3C0.jon.g@btinternet.com> what time guys (and gals)? I don't want to run up a huge phone bill waiting see ya on the 25th (what about the 28th - you going to Manchester?) jon g. On 16 December 1997 09:02, Laurel Girvan [SMTP:lgirva13 at calvin.edu] wrote: > > i might actually be around on christmas day, from my parent's place and > computer, they won't mind the phone charge, right? > > so i'll see whichever others of you are going into chat withdrawal on > christas then. > > love and kisses....erm, snogs? > laurel > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Tue Dec 16 18:17:34 1997 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:17:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox on the run Message-ID: <01BD0A52.39F07D60.jon.g@btinternet.com> I love the list too it is wonderful. it is wicked. it is my favourite thing i love it i love the list so, keith, you are wrong. we outnumber you two to one sorry jon g. On 16 December 1997 17:50, Johnston, John CT [SMTP:John.Johnston at capgemini.co.uk] wrote: > >>Ha ha, nobody likes the list anymore, it's so passe now that IRC's all the > >rage :). > > I love the list! > > xxx > john in the snow > > >---------- > >From: Keith Watson[SMTP:keith at xxx.uk] > >Sent: 16 Dec 1997 16:49 > >To: sinister at majordomo.net > >Subject: Sinister: Fox on the run > > > >Ha ha, nobody likes the list anymore, it's so passe now that IRC's all the > >rage :). > > > >A few years ago I swore to myself I'd never do any of these internet smiley > >things too! > > > >Anyway - off for the work night out tonight - so should be almost alive > >again by... say Friday. > > > >Take care people. > > > >Keith. > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 16 18:48:15 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (S.K. Gardiner) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:48:15 +0000 (gmt) Subject: Sinister: Fox on the Tyne In-Reply-To: <01bd0a42$8bdabf10$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: > Ha ha, nobody likes the list anymore, it's so passe now that IRC's all the > rage :). Some of us still love the list. Like, those of us who can't download the chat software because it's not our computer. My B&S cartoon T-Shirt arrived today, so I'm a happy bunny. I'd better not hum any happy bunny tunes though, it might annoy everyone else in the computer room :-) (Damn, there's one of those smiley things again. I keep trying to resist putting them in, but they're addictive, once you start you can't stop ;-) (Damn!)) A big virtual kiss under the mistletoe to all of you... Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk Tue Dec 16 16:41:32 1997 From: benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk (Coombs, Benjamin (B.J.)) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:41:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: the Nick Drake biography Message-ID: I have the book in my hand. it's yellow, it's called: Nick Drake the Biography Patrick Humphies ISBN 0-7475-2976-0 I haven't started reading it yet. The sad thing is though that Gabrielle Drake (his sister) and Joe Boyed (producer) didn't help with the writing of the book. I got into B & S because nearly every b&s review mentioned Nick. The dust cover has the following words: Nick Drake was barely 26 years old when he died in 1974. The British singer-songwriter made only three albums during his short life - Five Leaves Left, Bryter Layter and Pink Moon. All are now recognised as classics. Since his death, Nick has been cited as a seminal influence by stars as diverse as REM, Elton John, Paul Weller, Jackson Browne, Everything But The Girl, Tom Verlaine and Matt Johnson of The The. While the lives of other musicians who died before their time, such as Jim Morrison, John Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Gram Parsons, have been amply documented, there has never before been a biography of Nick Drake. Patrick Humphries' illuminating text includes exclusive interviews with friends, colleagues and musicians who knew and worked with Nick. It provides an unprecedented insight not only into the life and work of Nick Drake, but also into the music scene of the 1960s that formed his backdrop. The author's lifelong appreciation of and interest in Nick Drake were further fuelled when he discovered that his uncle Dr. James Lusk actually delivered Nick into the world and remained a friend of the Drake family. In these Pages he draws on a long letter from Nick's father to Dr. Lusk, in which he describes how his wife, Nick's mother, discovered Nick's body during the morning of 25 November 1974, following an accidental overdose of prescribed drugs. I a week is a long time in politics, then the 23 years since Nick's death represent a lifetime in the transitory world of pop. But the music of Nick Drake has never lost its place in his fans' affections, and still its haunting beauty reaches out to fresh generations. This book is for all of them. Writer and journalist Patrick Humphries is the author of acclaimed biographies of Paul Simon, Bob Dylan and Richard Thompson. He lives in London. Happy Christmas - Benjamin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MRissb7989 at xxx.com Tue Dec 16 21:14:19 1997 From: MRissb7989 at xxx.com (MRissb7989) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:14:19 EST Subject: Sinister: Sinister Message-ID: Subscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MRissb7989 at xxx.com Tue Dec 16 21:48:53 1997 From: MRissb7989 at xxx.com (MRissb7989) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:48:53 EST Subject: Sinister: Hi all Message-ID: <36bb9695.3496f74c@aol.com> Hello, Martin here, erm, I was previously known as Twentyodd at AOL.COM and Tigerriss at AOL.COM.....Anyway could Paul who has booked us a room in the Mancunian Hostel for both nights in Manchester get in touch as I have lost his e mail address and I need some details....AOL decided to terminate my account last night, the buggers! Sorry for taking up your time folks, but I think it is just about something to do with B&S! Martin aka Risso in the chat room ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Dec 16 22:29:50 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:29:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: Dead people In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3499009f.13397525@email.mcmail.com> A brief return to the list after the giddy excesses of the chat room. On Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:41:32 -0000, Benjamin wrote: >I got into B & S because nearly every b&s review mentioned Nick. There are vague similarities. They're both wonderful. And 'I was made to love magic' is pretty damn close to perfect. >The dust cover has the following words: >Nick Drake was barely 26 years old when he died in 1974. The British >singer-songwriter made only three albums during his short life - Five >Leaves Left, Bryter Layter and Pink Moon. All are now recognised as >classics. He went to school in the same town as me. He went to the public school, I had an old-fashioned comprehensive education. Never did me any harm. >Since his death, Nick has been cited as a seminal influence by stars as >diverse as REM, Elton John, Paul Weller, Jackson Browne, Everything But >The Girl, Tom Verlaine and Matt Johnson of The The. While the lives of >other musicians who died before their time, such as Jim Morrison, John >Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Gram Parsons, have been amply >documented... In the case of Jim Morisson, a suitable tribute would involve going to his grave and laughing at the fat drunken wanker. Poet my arse. And Janis Joplin was a wailing harpie smackhead. And Jimi Hendrix couldn't sing to save his life. Oh, I do hope that didn't offend anyone. How did Nick Drake influence Elton John? Now that is puzzling. 'Daniel' is good though. Love Tag xxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Dec 16 22:34:43 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:34:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: digest V1 #100!!! References: <199712160318.DAA19487@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34970203.146C227D@colon.net.> > Peter - where are you - join in the chatty fun! > > Cheers, > Keith. > Here I am, Keith! It's definitely a time for reflection, isn't it? Christmas is just around the corner and we've reached sinister digest's 100th edition! Congratulations are in order. I've been joining in the festive fun by trying to decide what my album of the year is, but I've come to the conclusion that I buy too many. I haven't really listened to any of them enough to form a proper opinion. If I could, I would vote for Led Zeppelin - Remasters, which has definitely improved over the years since it first came out in 1990, I think. I used to dislike Robert Plant's voice, but now I think it's highly soulful and emotive. The other day I invested in a Yoko Ono album, expecting it to be unlistenable gut wrenching screams over discordant guitars, but it's quite nice and tuneful really, a bit like Oasis. I don't know whether to be pleased or disappointed. I like Ivor Cutler but I'm not very familiar with his work. There's something about him on the Creation website. Makes it sound like he's done a duet with Yma Sumac, but it's an illusion. He makes a guest appearance on a Robert Wyatt song too. Two loonies together. I liked Susannah's questions for the band. For the record, I have slept with all the members of Belle and Sebastian, including the trumpet player. Unfortunately not in the same bed, or even the same hotel. Nevertheless I woke up completely knackered the next morning. My own question for the band would be "If you were a pizza, what kind of pizza would you be?" - Always goes down a treat, that one does. I've got to translate some crap about computers, so I might end up trying to pick some of your brains. It's about a plughole at the back, R2D2 or something. Paul and Keith, you're both computer geniuses, aren't you? I am going to make a concerted effort to join in the "chatty fun" this week, probably about 8-9 in the evening GMT. Ish. If I can. Bit tricky at the moment, even though my father-in-law, Bela Lugosi, appears to be in quite a good mood just lately. Sadly I won't be able to make the Christmas day sad bastards convention, but rest assured I will be there in spirit. I buy Yoko Ono albums instead of Christmas presents, need I say more? Peter Misery Guts Miller ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From samiam2 at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 01:10:53 1997 From: samiam2 at xxx.com (Sam Khater) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:10:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Emotion Recollected in B&S Tranquility - A DC Bookstore Gathering References: <199712160318.DAA19487@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3497269D.2AFF@ix.netcom.com> hi everyone - i've been on the list for a bit and have thoroghly enjoyed your comments, but sadly don't have the time to participate much. A few of us recluse fans in the Washingon DC area have decided to take a stab at meeting up. Here are the details: Saturday the 20th, at 5pm at Kramer's at Dupont Circle. If interested please send a personal reply (not to the b&s list) and we'll give more details. to you Londonites, i'll be coming around february 11 - 16 if anyone interested in setting up a gathering. i'd love to see a show... np: penelope tree by felt...a nice little song with a haunting chorus. the song is reminiscent of old Echo sam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Dec 17 03:43:39 1997 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:43:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: what's in a name Message-ID: as i am in the midst of finals, i've been having alot of time to ponder the meaning of life, the universe and everything lately. so upon finding, a name database on the web that gives the meaning and origin of first names, i decided to figure out what sebastian means. francophones know that belle means "beautiful", but i also discovered that sebastian means "revered" and is of Greek origin. Beautiful and revered (in case any sesame street watchers need help putting it together). good thing my parents are paying to send me to college. ;) xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu w/a web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 10:31:55 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:31:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: the Nick Drake biography Message-ID: <01bd0ad6$ff242580$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Thing that always gets me about Nick Drake, is that he died a week after going on a computer programming course... On reflection, you can kind of see his point. Keith. Computer Programmer I've toyed with the idea of buying that book recently, but I kind of wavered on the side of buying 10 pints of beer instead unfortunately, but I would love to get it, there was a but of it transcribed in Mojo earlier this year which was good. Maybe I'll buy it as a Christmas present to myself. I totally love Nick Drake - completely brilliant. Nice. Formidable. Scorchio etc. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 11:55:40 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:55:40 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199712171204.MAA27590@orange.easynet.co.uk> A festive attachment for you all... Meanwhile, in other news... Ivor Cutler - he read here at the Poetry Society a few months back. I met him before the show, and he was reading a preview piece I'd written for a magazine. He asked me what exactly I meant by 'Kafka-esque Zen Surrealism'. "Well, Ivor..." I began. "That's MR Cutler to you, young man". Nevertheless he was jolly good. I have some copies of his latest recording, and if I can think of a decent question I might set another competition... Nick Drake - before the pop quiz at the Jon Snow a few weeks back I was wasting time in central London, so I went to Helter Skelter, the rocknpop bookshop on Denmark St. They were having a launch for Patrick Humphries' book, and who should I bump into on my way out, but Mark Eitzel! He looked quite cheerful for such a miseryguts... Incidentally, Tag, the link between Elton and Drake is that Joe Boyd tried to persuade the Queen Mother of Pop to cover some of his songs in a last attempt to get some cross-over success. Just read the new Maker and they're raving about the forthcoming shows: "Live, B&S will simply enthrall you". Lets hope so, eh? Oh, there's also an ad for the matinee show - 12.30 on the Sunday - "due to overwhelming public demand". Isn't it exciting?! See some of you tonight in the chatroom? Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Fox.gif Type: application/octet-stream Size: 43637 bytes Desc: Fox (Corel PHOTO-PAINT 5.0 Image) URL: From keith at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 09:48:07 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:48:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Foxhole, Foxhole Message-ID: <01bd0ad0$e1311ed0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Only joking. I love the list. A day on the list is like a day on the farm. In any case, I can't do IRC during the day - at least.. not until next week! Wahey! Permanent connection at work soon. Still, having said that, I'll be unable to chat, given that I'll be deemed sad by my workmates. Well hungover today I'm afraid, work night out last night - a whole lotta boozin' goin' on. Cool, off on holiday as of Friday. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 10:35:37 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:35:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: the Nick Drake biography Message-ID: <01bd0ad7$833c85b0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> > The author's lifelong appreciation of and interest in Nick Drake were >further fuelled when he discovered that his uncle Dr. James Lusk >actually delivered Nick into the world and remained a friend of the >Drake family. In these Pages he draws on a long letter from Nick's >father to Dr. Lusk, in which he describes how his wife, Nick's mother, >discovered Nick's body during the morning of 25 November 1974, following >an accidental overdose of prescribed drugs. Christ! A couple of years ago, a mate of mine told me that a relative of his delivered Nick Drake - he was deadly serious about it, and didn't really know an awful lot about Nick Drake either, but I haven't thought about it since then... Until now, cos his name's Jamie Lusk. Bloody hell, that's a strange one. So - for people on the Edinburgh list. He's the servitor at Potterrow at the moment - Paul Laird, you'll know him. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 10:48:19 1997 From: benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk (Coombs, Benjamin (B.J.)) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:48:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Dead people Message-ID: hello Reader, in response to what Tag wrote: >How did Nick Drake influence Elton John? Now that is puzzling. I possibly sense from the tone of the last letter that you ask this question with a small sense of sarcasm? well the answer to your puzzle is thus: I think I'm right in writing (can any one correct me?) that the very first person ever to cover Nick Drake songs was in fact Elton John. I believe he recorded four songs (Day Is Done, Saturday Sun, Way To Blue and Time Has Told Me) on a demo way back in 1968. As far as I know these songs are available on bootlegs only. So you may well think Elton john is now a very rich man with a partially cured hair problem, but you can't deny that B&S and EJ both draw a pon the same musical influences. so there you go Bryter Layter, Benjamin PS Anagram of Belle & Sebastian: See Bill & be Santa ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.jackson at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 13:36:04 1997 From: john.jackson at xxx.com (Jackson,John) Date: 17 Dec 97 13:36:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: blimey Message-ID: <"<601B9834811CCC7E>601B9834811CCC7E@wck3.bbc"@-SMF-> hello I suppose you all know this now but the matinee Manchester gig is apparently an EXTRA date...what's this all about then Katrina? I was very surprised when I saw the ad in the NME yesterday, I was under the impression it was the actual gig that was taking place in the afternoon rather than an extra one.. so, who's going to all THREE shows? #Sinister is bluddy GRAET by the way, you should all irc if you haven't yet. no doubt they'll soon be serving maarmoite sarndwiches soon too JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Paul ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 14:49:54 1997 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:49:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester tickets - help! Message-ID: <28E58BA5A82@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Hi, I still haven't got my Manchester ticket (Sunday) thru the post yet despite sending my cheque off the day ticket details were announced. Should I be getting worried and/or are there lots of you in the same boat!? cheers Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From crb23 at xxx.edu Wed Dec 17 14:53:56 1997 From: crb23 at xxx.edu (Christopher R Blake) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:53:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Dead people In-Reply-To: <3499009f.13397525@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 16 Dec 1997, Tag wrote: > A brief return to the list after the giddy excesses of the chat room. > > On Tue, 16 Dec 1997 16:41:32 -0000, Benjamin wrote: > > >I got into B & S because nearly every b&s review mentioned Nick. > > There are vague similarities. They're both wonderful. And 'I was > made to love magic' is pretty damn close to perfect. > > >The dust cover has the following words: > >Nick Drake was barely 26 years old when he died in 1974. The British > >singer-songwriter made only three albums during his short life - Five > >Leaves Left, Bryter Layter and Pink Moon. All are now recognised as > >classics. > > He went to school in the same town as me. He went to the public > school, I had an old-fashioned comprehensive education. Never did me > any harm. > > >Since his death, Nick has been cited as a seminal influence by stars as > >diverse as REM, Elton John, Paul Weller, Jackson Browne, Everything But > >The Girl, Tom Verlaine and Matt Johnson of The The. While the lives of > >other musicians who died before their time, such as Jim Morrison, John > >Lennon, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Gram Parsons, have been amply > >documented... > > In the case of Jim Morisson, a suitable tribute would involve going to > his grave and laughing at the fat drunken wanker. Poet my arse. And > Janis Joplin was a wailing harpie smackhead. And Jimi Hendrix > couldn't sing to save his life. Oh, I do hope that didn't offend > anyone. > > How did Nick Drake influence Elton John? Now that is puzzling. > 'Daniel' is good though. > FYI Elton John released a record of 4 Nick Drake covers in the early 70's. PS - I saw the Nick Drake tribute concert at St. Ann's church in Brooklyn back in November. It was a mixed bag. Peter Holsapple did a great job conducting the musicians but the whole event was entirely too reverential. Not that Nick doesn't deserve reverence. It was all just a little too stiff - with the remarkable exception of the great Peter Blegvad who performed Been Smokin Too Long. The show was recorded for radio broadcast - which may account for the National Public Radio vibe. Some of the other performances were good - Richard Barone, Duncan Sheik. Chris Blake, NYC > Love Tag xxxxx > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 15:01:44 1997 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:01:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinister Digest is Tops :-) Message-ID: <01BD0AFC.B1025B80@pc7628> Long Live Sinister-Digest. I have been strongly advised by my IT Liaison Officer that the downloading of IRC software could seriously damage my health/career prospects/lead to me having my bottom smacked..etc.etc. Despite flagrantly abusing those IT facilities already provided me, I am dependent on this list: a) for sanity; b) to fill 2-3 hours of my working day; c) you are the only people I know. I love the list, The list loves me, I refuse to get like this :-( Because of IRC. Please I implore you all....just because you may have this new wonderful bloody software, don't unsubscribe...we love you all really. -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 15:33:49 1997 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:33:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: jon g. in the snow Message-ID: <01BD0B01.36C20640.jon.g@btinternet.com> well, after all the fox in the snow reports, I thought I had better inform you that: !!!- IT IS SNOWING IN SHEFFIELD!!!!! Yeah!! Sorry, I just thought you outght to know: I am very excited today because: 1 - My B&S T-shirt came today 2 - My B&S badge came today 3 - It is snowing 4 - I have been playing B&S all day either on CD, piano or guitar. YAY (sorry for disturbing you) jong ps. who is going on sunday morning? are there two concerts on sunday or am I thick? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 15:22:59 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:22:59 GMT Subject: Sinister: Goodbye England's Rose and other bollocks Message-ID: <3499ea65.21543944@email.mcmail.com> On Wed, 17 Dec 1997 10:48:19 -0000, Benjamin wrote: >I possibly sense from the tone of the last letter that you ask this >question with a small sense of sarcasm? well the answer to your puzzle >is thus: Sarcastic, not me mate....I meant every word, but I just wasn't hard enough on 'the lizard king' (I reckon 'the reptile twat' is far more appropriate). But I would never be sarky about St Nick, who I love very much. In amongst all those forgettable and not particularly regrettable (hey! that's good, I nicked it from the Simpsons) rock n'roll deaths, his was a genuine tragedy. >I think I'm right in writing (can any one correct me?) that the very >first person ever to cover Nick Drake songs was in fact Elton John. I >believe he recorded four songs (Day Is Done, Saturday Sun, Way To Blue >and Time Has Told Me) on a demo way back in 1968. As far as I know these >songs are available on bootlegs only. Blimey, I never knew that. I really didn't, and it's interesting. >So you may well think Elton john is now a very rich man with a partially >cured hair problem, Well, yes I do, but I don't think that's a reason to hate him. 'Your song', 'Daniel', 'Song for Guy'...wonderful stuff. A friend of my mother's was in the same year at school as our Reg, and remembers a shy little six year old who sat on his own playing the piano at kid's parties (it wasn't Elton...she just remembers one) (that bit in brackets was a joke, and it was very, very funny). And he and I share a birthday (he's a bit older than me). Along with Aretha Franklin, Paul-Michael Glaser, Simone Signoret AND the saxophone player from Spandau Ballet (Steve Norman, for those who are bothered). I know this for a fact because I am a vaguely tragic human being, who has an unfathomable curiosity for people that he shares a star sign with (Serge Gainsbourg is my favourite co-Aries. John Major and Damon Albarn aren't). >....but you can't deny that B&S and EJ both draw a pon the same musical >influences. Well, yes. But I sort of prefer not to think about B&S's influences - your illusions can be shattered if you find some of your favourite musical moments are second-hand. Hey! Senor Pedro 'Cojones del Toro' Miller is back! And this time he wants to rock with the Zep. Pero te quiero, anyway. I should have some interesting news regarding Manchester in the next couple of days.....keep watching the skies. It's snowing, maybe I'll see a fox, and maybe I couldn't give a toss. Love Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 15:48:28 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:48:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester tickets - help! Message-ID: <199712171547.PAA13512@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> I phoned the Virgin Piccadilly box office yeaterday because I was concerned. they told me that they had not yet received the tickets. They also said that if the tickets had not arrived by Friday (last day of guaranteed post arrival pre-Xmas) they would make some arrangements about leaving them on the doors for us. I hope this all works. Or I'll cry. And then start a riot. Not sure if this will reassure you or not, Chris. And congratulations on beating the mighty Torquay United so convincingly last night ;). Cheers and bah humbug Tim H ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ab0u600b at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 15:54:19 1997 From: ab0u600b at xxx.uk (Dawn) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:54:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: the Nick Drake biography Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19971217155419.08e7c95e@pop1.liv.ac.uk> >Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:08:54 +0000 >To: "Coombs, Benjamin (B.J.)" >From: Dawn >Subject: Re: Sinister: RE: the Nick Drake biography > >At 16:41 16/12/97 -0000, you wrote: >>I have the book in my hand. it's yellow, it's called: >> >>Nick Drake >>the Biography >> >>Patrick Humphies >> >>ISBN 0-7475-2976-0 >> >> > >>The sad thing is though that Gabrielle Drake (his sister) and Joe Boyed >>(producer) didn't help with the writing of the book. >> >> >Is that the same Gabrielle Drake who used to play the glamorous motel boss Nicola Freeman in "Crossroads"? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajb882 at xxx.edu Wed Dec 17 15:56:25 1997 From: ajb882 at xxx.edu (ajb882 at xxx.edu) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 09:56:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: waaaah! Message-ID: Boy, gone less than a week and I miss the list, the chatting, everything... Vacation for me is consisting of much sleeping, and I just got my grades for last quarter, and I'm sure you'll all be pleased to know that I did well in my classes, despite the distraction of the aforementioned vices (list/chatting). since my email access is sporadic until I return to school, a couple of notes: to anyone waiting for their T-milk tapes, no worries, they're all in the mail. you lucky folks who are going to Manchester: take explicit mental notes during the shows so that afterwards you can taunt all of us who couldn't make it with the juicy details...! I will be there in spirit, having set up a makeshift shrine of my B&S decorated coconut and poster and picture and candles, maybe...with assorted B&S tunes playing softly in the background...trying to telepathically will myself to Manchester. oh, well. anyone want anything from Disney World? until the next time I can hijack someone's computer... take care, Amanda Phairfan at aol.com) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 16:59:12 1997 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:59:12 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: I, too, have been threatened by the Learning Resources Daemon with evil torments (Bring me...the COMFY CHAIR!) if I even so much as think about doing the IRC bad thing, and as I am a lovely law-abiding art student, I will not entertain the notion of flouting these commands. So...I can't chat to all you depraved people. Such is life. Do not forget us stuck here on the list, which is still fabulous. We'll be just fine without you, you vanload of harlots. This is all I have to say on the matter, so there. Lots of something, Liz (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) O life is a glorious cycle of song: A medley of extemporanea; And love is a thing that can never go wrong; And I am Marie of Roumania. Dorothy Parker ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Ripoffs at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 16:30:37 1997 From: Ripoffs at xxx.com (Ripoffs) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:30:37 EST Subject: Sinister: American B&S fans? Message-ID: <44f90a1e.3497fe2f@aol.com> Hello all. I am quite new to this whole thing and I am already feeling a little bit awkward. I am from America, a country that has no idea about Belle and Sebastian, and there aren't too many people other than my friends who listen to B&S and love them as much as us. Does anyone know any information about B&S doing an American tour? ellen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jrbia at xxx.br Wed Dec 17 01:08:51 1997 From: jrbia at xxx.br (Junior/Fabiana) Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 23:08:51 -0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S on a Brazilian magazine Message-ID: <199712171654.QAA22040@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Hi everybody! I've just joined Sinister, and I'm sending the translation of the Brazilian article about "If You're Feeling Sinister", which Ivo Augusto has talked some days ago. (Yes, I'm Brazilian too, and I'm an Ivo's great friend and er...fan!). Please note that I kept two mistakes from the original text: the author (Zeca Camargo) says that they have two singles (instead of 3 EPS, right?) and he really wrote "Lazy Pine..." Fabiana :o) PS: This article takes almost the whole page of the magazine, and it also has a picture, with the text: "Cover from Belle and Sebastian. Any similarity with the Smiths... MISSING THE 80's Welcome to the 80's. Be cool, not those 80's from Kajagoogoo, Duran Duran, Spandau Ballet and Hayzee Fantasyee. Welcome to the 80's frequented by bands like Felt, Pale Fountains, Weather Prophets, James (before-Madchester) and, of course, The Smiths – who used to fill our hearts with hope that one day the god pop music would triumph. It was not exactly what happened, but that spirit is more than alive on the weird group Belle and Sebastian. If You're Feeling Sinister is the most nostalgic release from 1997. And the good is that this Scottish from Glasgow (Stuart Murdoch) and his troupe are able of something even better inside this nostalgia: not to look like nostalgic ones, but like some who innovate, with a collection of ten tracks able to light the spirit. Belle and Sebastian go over themselves, creating something magic which, in English, is called hook. One thing that sticks immediately on your head, a instantaneous and perfect chorus, able to make you start singing "Fox on the Snow" by the roads of Turkey without any notion of chords. Keeping the music simple and risking some strings here and there, Murdoch doesn't stop his production. Besides the album, this year the leader of Belle and Sebastian has already released two singles with four previously unreleased tracks each: "Dog on Wheels" and "Lazy Pine Painter Jane". Any fortune that you spend in CD importing stores with these preciousness will be very good used money. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 17:24:28 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:24:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Lazy Pine Painter Jane Message-ID: <199712171702.RAA12137@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> >Please note that I kept two mistakes from the original text: the author >(Zeca Camargo) says that they have two singles (instead of 3 EPS, right?) >and he really wrote "Lazy Pine..." Hooray for Brazil (where the nuts come from...) ! Lazy Pine Painter Jane is fabulous mishearing/translation/typo. It captures the ennui of working in an Ikea store. Any other paint related B&S moments? If you're peeling (sinister)...You made me forget my brush...The State this room is in... Sorry about all that. I'm not going to the Manchester gigs but I hope they are marvellous and everyone has a wonderful time. Would people who are going take some Ink Polaroids of it to share with the rest of the list?? joyeaux noel John "Johnny" Johnston ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Dec 17 17:19:31 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:19:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tell Me on a Sunday Message-ID: <349809A3.FDC186CD@colon.net.> A popular music concert on a Sunday!!!!! - and at half past twelve, no less! I am shocked and stunned. I hope the band have no intention of missing church choir duties that day. Their well-publicised devotion to men of the cloth could lead to a serious Chariots of Fire style dilemna. Whatever would the Lord say? I think the list is much better than IRC and I urge you all to save at least some of your rambles for the good old fashioned list. Having said that I was lucky enough to stumble in on a nice conversation about Denim tribute bands in Texas. Sadly I was cut off in my prime before getting to the bottom of the matter. And just what is a tongue bath? That was probably a nice picture of a fox, but on the digest it just came through as a huge quantity of machine code cobblers. But I am very excited at the prospect of another competition. Vengeance is mine, and I will repay, sayeth the Lord (him again?). I am still smarting after my cruel defeat at the hands of "Choo Choo" Mitchell. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Wed Dec 17 18:07:59 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:07:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the street References: <882283079.2023321.0@totv.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <349811F6.621F@virgin.net> > Another subject entirely, but I just wondered whether any readers of this > list have watched 'The Adam and Joe Show' in the last few weeks. It is > connected slightly because there is a poster of 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' > poster in the title sequence which unfortunately gets covered up by Beck > I think. I sort of help produce it and its interesting to know what > people think. Rob, you know that you got me addicted to this show! I refuse to go ous on a Saturday night, as i'll miss the Adam & Joe show! I love it ... My two bobs worth anyway ... Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Thu Dec 18 01:36:26 1997 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:36:26 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake and B&S miscellany Message-ID: <49886831.1272@smlawpub.co.uk> A few things: 1. Nick Drake. I have been listening to "way to blue" many many times and I think that it is a truly wonderful record. It is all too apparent why comparisons are made with B&S. Someone mentioned this before, I'm sure, but a lucid biography of Nick Drake says that he was a star of track and field (see http://www.musicblvd.com/cgi-bin/tw/2777614882191567_105_4277), an interesting connection. And is the song title Hazy Jane just a coincidence? 2. Joanna (?), cover star of Tigermilk, works in the library at my sister's University. My sister recognised her because she knows the cover but also because she and my friend Fraser met Stuart Murdoch and Joanna going sledging in Kelvingrove Park last winter. 3. It's true, Stuart Murdoch used to box at University (Peter has already averred this but now I have proof!) 4. Photo Jenny is a very very good song. 5. I forgot to mention for the benefit of Paul's list that another owner of Tigermilk is Fraser (see above) McNaughton from Edinburgh. 6. Keith - I'm sure "a day on the list is like a day on the farm" is a paraphrase of a line in Aliens (spoken by the sergeant). Am I worng? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 17:30:23 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:30:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Foxhole, Foxhole References: <01bd0ad0$e1311ed0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34980C2E.E1B8446B@mail.zynet.co.uk> who needs television when we've got the subwat sect? actually, we all need television because the records still sound sublime... actually listening to live Arab Strap stuff i'm thinking television parallels here. yum. B&S? yeah yeah yeah. got the tickets, counting down... kids in my art class are drawing the 'two concerts' poster art in their sketchbooks by choice :-) adding bits of nifty collage, which makes up for the fact that the chins look a bit iffy. Also, i will have the Belle Lettres available in limited edition booklet form for around the manchester period... anyone interested in a copy of the package please email me for more details :-) it's a tangents festive special... keep the faith the duke in a snowy devon -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 20:42:41 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 20:42:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Foxhole, Foxhole References: <01bd0ad0$e1311ed0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> <34980C2E.E1B8446B@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <34983941.4F3DAAD3@mail.zynet.co.uk> the duke of harringay wrote: > who needs television when we've got the subwat > sect? SUBWAY even... end of term, my typing is even worse than normal... Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinsco at xxx.CA Wed Dec 17 20:43:54 1997 From: kevinsco at xxx.CA (K. R. Scofield) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 12:43:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: American B&S fans? In-Reply-To: <44f90a1e.3497fe2f@aol.com> Message-ID: Actually, America does know about B&S. I live in Canada, but much of the info I've found out about B&S has been thrgouh U.S. publications like CMJ Weekly, Magnet, and Puncture. IYFS was released in the U.S. by the Enclave, but then the label quickly folded. I believe BMG, the Enclave's mother, is still distributing the copies of IYFS to magazines and radio stations. I have yet to see the cd in stores, so I don't know what exactly is being done with the copies of the album. -------------------------------- STEREO-TYPE RECORDS -------------------------------- Ensign "Take Care" (cass) $3 Various Victoria Artists "Surrender To The Garden City" (cass + booklet) $5 Dead Stars "Cancer Moon" (cass) $4 Snailhouse/Julie Doiron (7") Coming Soon Run Chico Run (7") Coming Soon -------------------------------- -------------------------------- On Wed, 17 Dec 1997, Ripoffs wrote: > Hello all. I am quite new to this whole thing and I am already feeling a > little bit awkward. I am from America, a country that has no idea about Belle > and Sebastian, and there aren't too many people other than my friends who > listen to B&S and love them as much as us. Does anyone know any information > about B&S doing an American tour? > ellen > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 19:32:06 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:32:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester tickets - help! References: <28E58BA5A82@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: <349828B6.2847@seahouses.u-net.com> Dr C.B.Stride wrote: > > Hi, > I still haven't got my Manchester ticket (Sunday) thru the post yet despite > sending my cheque off the day ticket details were announced. Should I > be getting worried and/or are there lots of you in the same boat!? > cheers > Chris No, as far as I know Kate dornan hasn't got the saturday tickets yet.. although she has got the sunday ones. It is worrying because lots of people I know HAVE got their tickets for both nights... JJ x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jgalvin at xxx.edu Wed Dec 17 21:01:33 1997 From: jgalvin at xxx.edu (John M. Galvin) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:01:33 -0400 Subject: Sinister: American B&S fans? In-Reply-To: References: <44f90a1e.3497fe2f@aol.com> Message-ID: >I have yet to see the cd (IYFS) in stores, so I don't know what >exactly is being done with the copies of the album. > (1) I am an American B&S fan, albeit a recent addition to the ranks. Though I have seen references in the musical press, I don't personally know anyone else who listens. I came to them through suggestions on the Tindersticks mailing list, which also has several American members (though nothing resembling a majority, I don't think), so several people at least know *of* them. (2) I have seen IYFS in at least 4 record stores around Boston, and I know that the copies have recently arrived....perhaps they've just been hanging out in warehouses and that doesn't have anything to do with The Enclave label. Kinda just wanted to introduce myself as a newcomer. Despite the band's ill opinion of the Sessions at West 54th show, I'm really looking forward to seeing them on TV on 27 December. ______________________________________ John M. Galvin Morgan Hall 333 Harvard Business School Soldiers Field Boston, MA 02163 Tel: 617.495.6725 Fax: 617.496.6568 jgalvin at hbs.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 21:52:44 1997 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 16:52:44 EST Subject: Sinister: Fox in the street Message-ID: > Another subject entirely, but I just wondered whether any readers of this > list have watched 'The Adam and Joe Show' in the last few weeks. It is > connected slightly because there is a poster of 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' > poster in the title sequence which unfortunately gets covered up by Beck > I think. I sort of help produce it and its interesting to know what > people think. Wow, B&S on Prime time TV! (Well, Channel 4 anyway.) Is this a first? I was expecting someone to mention Adam and Joe, as every time I visit a Website, someone talks about it on the list. Am I being watched? Or am I just paranoid? I always miss the start of the show when I tape it...I'll look closer in future. More importantly, will Stuart Murdoch recieve 'Vinyl Justice' on a future show? (an 'Adam and Joe' feature in which they sneer at pop stars' record collections). It would clear some wardrobe skeletons, and maybe even explain Electronic Rennaisance.... Well, I'm off to wrestle with the IRC program. Thanks X1000 to Sarah for my copy of Tigermilk, which is at this moment having babies, to be adopted by waitng, loving parents. Happy Xmas! (and enjoy Manchester!) Seb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MRissb7989 at xxx.com Wed Dec 17 23:21:29 1997 From: MRissb7989 at xxx.com (MRissb7989) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:21:29 EST Subject: Sinister: End of year polls... Message-ID: <5dcdfa45.34985e7f@aol.com> For anybody who deosn't yet know, MM and NME both featured B&S quite heavily in their singles of the year lists..... NME Lazy Line...no. 22 3,6,9....no 35 Melody Maker 3,6,9....no.33 Lazy Line.....no.34 Dog on Wheels....no.38 NME's is the slightly better list, it has Arab Strap at no13 with all the usual Embrasis shit filling all of the other spots. MM has the Spice Slags at 23! and Aqua at 44. Nuff said. Now I know most of you won't give a toss about such lists and rightly so, but to us Stato-like, High Fidelity reading Saddoes they're great, so please excuse my indulgence in bringing this to you...especially as The Verve are at no 1 in both lists, and are from Wigan, like me! Martin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From GuinnessTrust at xxx.uk Wed Dec 17 23:31:14 1997 From: GuinnessTrust at xxx.uk (The Guinness Trust) Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:31:14 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister guinness trust at gtgrp.demon.co.uk -- The Guinness Trust ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Dec 18 09:40:57 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:40:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake and B&S miscellany Message-ID: <01bd0b99$0adefe50$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> > 6. Keith - I'm sure "a day on the list is like a day on the farm" > is a paraphrase of a line in Aliens (spoken by the sergeant). Am I > worng? Right you are! Just a few things that's been runnin' round ma head. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Dec 18 09:52:33 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 09:52:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Foxhole, Foxhole Message-ID: <01bd0b9a$aa3ebf70$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> who needs television when we've got the subwat >sect? > >actually, we all need television because the >records still sound sublime... actually listening >to live Arab Strap stuff i'm thinking television >parallels here. yum. Indeed, Television are one of the greats. As an addendum given to the misinformation the press often puts about, "Adventure" by Televsion is a fantastic LP, you've all heard of Marquee Moon, well, enough's been written about that already. "Adventure" is great - and often derided as a poor cousin the previous, don't believe what you read. It was that attitude that split up this amazing band in the first place. Go out and buy their records now. Also, if you can pick up a copy of Tom Verlaine's first LP, get a hold of that too ("Tom Verlaine") as it's almost perfect too. The main reason for pointing this out is that the number of people I know who have Marquee Moon, but don't have Adventure is astonishing - they've all read that apparently, it's not very good. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Thu Dec 18 11:59:12 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:59:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Foxhole, Foxhole Message-ID: <01BD0BAC.5BAA2680@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Keith Watson wrote: >Indeed, Television are one of the greats. As an addendum given to the misinformation the press often puts about, "Adventure" by Televsion is a fantastic LP, you've all heard of Marquee Moon, well, enough's been written about that already. "Adventure" is great - and often derided as a poor cousin the previous, don't believe what you read. It is a good album in its own right, agreed, but I think they'd set themselves an impossible task of following up what remains, in my opinion, one of the best 3 or 4 lps ever made. Also worth tracking down is the bootleg album of early demos from 1974/75. This features some fantastic raw versions of a number of the Marquee Moon songs, including the "legendary" 1974 Eno-produced sessions, featuring Richard Hell on bass. His technique might have been primative, but the energy on these tracks is amazing. If you like early Television, you should also hear the Neon Boys' (Hell and Verlaine pre-Television) "Love Comes in Spurts", still available on Overground records, I believe. Oh, and the live cassette (may be available on cd now?) "The Blow Up", on ROIR records, recorded in 1977, is also worth hearing, if only for Verlaine's outrageous guitar playing in a 10 minute version of "Little Johnny Jewel". Erm, no B&S content, sorry. Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Thu Dec 18 12:05:55 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:05:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ivor Competition (NBSC) Message-ID: <199712181211.MAA00431@orange.easynet.co.uk> OK! Due to overwhelming public demand (well, Peter and Paul asked anyway) I've decided to set a new competition to win Ivor Cutler's 'A Wet Handle' (Creation) on CD. The questions comes in two parts: a) Ivor Cutler appeared in the misguided Beatles film 'Magical Mystery Tour'. What was his character's name? b) Ivor the Engine was a small train in North Wales. What was the name of his dragon friend, and what was the dragon's special talent? Answers, sent to me, please, by 5pm on Friday. In the event of a tie, I'll pick an entrant at random. Stephen recovering from last night's custard deluge in the chat room ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Dec 18 12:51:52 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:51:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: [Fwd: Manchester Matinee] Message-ID: <34991C68.3340@virgin.net> hi gang ... i don't think this went through yesterday, so here it is again. cheers, katrina. -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: "Katrina at xxx.net> Subject: Manchester Matinee Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 18:10:51 +0000 Size: 1813 URL: From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Dec 18 12:51:48 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 12:51:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: manchester tickets Message-ID: <34991C64.5426@virgin.net> hi everyone, as there have been a few people enquiring about tickets, here's the info again ... if you haven't got your tickets yet, please contact the place of purchase. if that happens to be the fanclub/foundation, please phone me at jeepster on 0181 964 9432 or at home after 8pm on 0181 560 1815, and i will try to sort your tickets out ... can't be fairer than that! cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tai_aharonov at xxx.com Thu Dec 18 12:58:22 1997 From: tai_aharonov at xxx.com (Tai Aharonov) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 04:58:22 PST Subject: Sinister: American B&S fans? Message-ID: <19971218125822.9591.qmail@hotmail.com> >(2) I have seen IYFS in at least 4 record stores around Boston, and I know >that the copies have recently arrived....perhaps they've just been hanging >out in warehouses and that doesn't have anything to do with The Enclave >label. I discovered B&S thanks to Jody Thompson of the NME raving about them on the NME's chat page. At the time I was in San Francisco (this must have been in about July) and found IYFS all over the place, much to my joy. See you a week on Sunday!!! Tai x ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Thu Dec 18 14:04:09 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:04:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I shall go to the ball! Message-ID: <199712181341.NAA00310@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Hooray for the matinee! I'm going to Manchester -la, la, la.. Manchester, la, la, la. And festive film fun as well - fantastic! And hot snax, it's all too too much. Is there a Sunday meet-up post-Matinee pre-er...Vespers(?)? ha ha ha he he he and a couple of tra-la-la's.... xx john ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Dec 18 13:11:32 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:11:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hazy Pint Drinking Keith Message-ID: <01bd0bb6$762aed00$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >It is a good album in its own right, agreed, but I think they'd set themselves >an impossible task of following up what remains, in my opinion, one of the >best 3 or 4 lps ever made. Also worth tracking down is the bootleg album >of early demos from 1974/75. This features some fantastic raw versions >of a number of the Marquee Moon songs, including the "legendary" 1974 >Eno-produced sessions, featuring Richard Hell on bass. His technique >might have been primative, but the energy on these tracks is amazing. >If you like early Television, you should also hear the Neon Boys' (Hell and >Verlaine pre-Television) "Love Comes in Spurts", still available on Overground >records, I believe. Oh, and the live cassette (may be available on cd now?) >"The Blow Up", on ROIR records, recorded in 1977, is also worth hearing, if >only for Verlaine's outrageous guitar playing in a 10 minute version of "Little >Johnny Jewel". Erm, no B&S content, sorry. > >Nigel >xx These are indeed good, there's also, if you're interested, a bootleg floating around that's got different versions of Double Exposure and Blank Generation. Plus a couple of tracks that I don't know what they are. There's a different live version of Little Johnny Jewel on this too. V.Good indeed. And right enough, "The Blow Up" is available on double CD now. Did you know... Belle and Sebastian watch Television. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Dec 18 15:25:17 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:25:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester meet-up Message-ID: <3499405D.4F51@virgin.net> Hello everybody ... ok, it's vote time! I've found two venues in Manchester, which are completely different and both have their advantages & disadvantages, so i want everyone elses opinions please! Venue #1. Is a cafe/bar thingy. They do bottled beer only (£1.95) and coffee and cakes, but no food. This venue would be for the saturday, but it's a little way away from the Town Hall. Venue #2. Is a pub who are across the road from the Town Hall. They do normal pub stuff (drinks/crisps etc), but no food on weekends, and only a coffee machine in the upstairs. They would be open for both the sat ('til 12pm) & sun (til 10.30pm) gigs. There is also the possibility of using the function room on the saturday before 6pm. (ohmigosh, they've just started playing Ride on Xfm ... yipppeeee!) ok, so now it's up to you all! could people either mail me or the list with their preference, as well as what times you think would be appropriate to meet-up, considering doors are at 7.30pm? let us know what you want boys & girls! cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com Thu Dec 18 14:20:02 1997 From: Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com (Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:20:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: American B&S fans? Message-ID: <85256571.0053DA44.00@v2music.com> There are a number of American B&S fans out there. As of last week, IYFS has Soundscanned 11, 090 copies! So realistically IYFS has sold around 20,000 or so in America since soundscan isn't in most of the mom&pop record shops, where a lot of B&S is sold. And even though the Enclave folded, stores have no problem getting IYFS from distributors. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Thu Dec 18 15:27:28 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:27:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Hugh gets a kicking Message-ID: Right - time to give out some punishment. My mate Hugh who is coming to Manchester joined the list and reckons you lot are all spotty adolescents - he wants to know when you all get dirty (I told him come along to the chat but he's shy). You'll have seen his weak efforts to leave but he's still on so far hahaha so time for some stick probably - Keith or Peter? He also quite usefully sent out this info re. Mancs if it's not too late, and it would be fun if Manchester residents or ex-pats could violently disagree with him: ********** > > Anyway - re. Manchester. > > Pubs near Town Hall - loads, problem is quite a few are small. However > some decent ones within 5 - 10 mins walk: > > Atlas - trendy cafe bar - actually pretty good. Lots of room. > Dukes 92 - newish pub in old building > British Protection - gay pub but really nice [ Ed: note the "but" - he's a fascist ] > Marble Arch - probably 10 - 15 mins away. But real ale heaven. > Lass O Gowrie - brew their own but not very cozy. Mark and Lard > frequent. > > And for food I could suggest: > > Loads of Chinese round the corner, plus one Thai (Chang Rai) > Good Pizza Express > Cafe Uno - Italian over the road. Average > Upmarket Indian over the road, but not that expensive - cant't remember > what its called but its good. > Mash and Air - dead trendy in gay village. Fisting in the bogs. Food > pretty good. Service shite. [ Ed: ummm ] > > Anyway I know loads of places, although whether we will be able to get > in with 30 peolpe on a Saturday night after Christmas is debateable. > Other possibility is to drive/taxi 2 miles to Rusholme, home of the > asian cafe. There are literally dozens of cheap curry houses (and good) > where you take your own wine, beer etc. Best place to get lots of peolpe > fed. > ********** So that's it. You might also meet BlueBoy, a welsh lawyer, a big-nosed english lecturer and a gay buddhist in Manchester with me - look out for the area cordonned off by the police. Oh and see you in #Sinister tonight, cos, let's face it, Wednesday isn't the meet up day, it's everyday. Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Thu Dec 18 15:33:19 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:33:19 EST Subject: Sinister: American B&S fans? Message-ID: >Actually, America does know about B&S. I live in Canada, but much of the >info I've found out about B&S has been thrgouh U.S. publications like CMJ >Weekly, Magnet, and Puncture. Not to mention the NY & LA Times. > IYFS was released in the U.S. by the >Enclave, but then the label quickly folded. I believe BMG, the Enclave's >mother, EMI-Capitol was the Enclave's mother, and EMD was the distributor. Doesn't seem to be any lack of IYFS or the ep's on shelves in NYC, but i don't know if other parts of the country are having troubles keeping it stocked. On a completely unrelated note, we're listening to the new Gavin Bryars cd, The Sinking of the Titanic. It's a concept project, one long piece of music, mostly strings with the occasional single piano note thrown in and a bit of brass. It seems the Titanic strikes the iceberg in the opening minute of the album; then it slowly sink for the next hour. It's quite lovely. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From GUSRAT at xxx.com Thu Dec 18 15:57:37 1997 From: GUSRAT at xxx.com (GUSRAT) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 10:57:37 EST Subject: Sinister: tab for the day Message-ID: <14b33469.349947f3@aol.com> STRING BEAN JEAN D---------------------------------G------------- I got my fingers dirty at the school of rock D-----------------------------------A----------- Yeah I got my fingers dirty so I took a walk D---------------------------------------F#----------------Bm------- I went up to the country park and hung around till after dark ----------G--------------- Till the girls got home ----------D--------------- Till the girls got home Did I tell you 'bout the one I know, she's on the rag She spent the summer day inside her sleeping bag Yeah she spent the summer day inside until it's time to work And she works all night Cause the girl's all right The girls have got a house that's like a caravan And it's like your holidays whenever you go round And we always have a laugh and then we all get in the bath To save on the leccy bill Me & Jo & Phil' Bm---------------------------G------- I had to leave them in the morning --------------------------------D-- I left the keys around the way --------------------A-- I had to catch a bus I had to leave them in the morning I left the keys down in the caf' I had to go to work And when Jo was short of cash I had to give her some But I didn't really mind cause I was fit for once So she paid the leccy bill and got the shopping and she still had Some for the cinema So we all went out She asked me "Do I need to lose a bit of weight?" And I told her "Don't be stupid 'cause you're looking great" And I call her String Bean Jean because the label on her jeans says Seven to eight years old - well that's pretty small Seven to eight years old - that's pretty small Seven to eight years old - that's pretty small Seven to eight years old ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mk at xxx.uk Thu Dec 18 15:36:11 1997 From: mk at xxx.uk (Matthew Kellie) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:36:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: FW: FIGHT!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <01BD0BCA.AE4504A0@mk> ---------- From: Tim Smith[SMTP:ts at xxx.uk] Sent: 18 December 1997 14:46 To: 'PATRICK VAN DEN BOVENKAMP'; 'IAN HARCOMBE'; 'MATT KELLIE'; 'STEVE MOORE (Amos)'; 'RICH HIND'; 'RICHARD BENTLEY'; 'Stuart Lane'; 'TOM ILLINGWORTH' Subject: FW: FIGHT!!!!!!!!! ---------- From: Hayley Hill[SMTP:hhill at xxx.uk] Sent: 18 December 1997 14:19 To: 'ts at memsolve.co.uk' Subject: FW: FIGHT!!!!!!!!! > >>> It's the first snowball fight of the season. Consider yourself > hit. > >>> > >>> snowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballs > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsno > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnow > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowba > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnow > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsno > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowballsnowballsnowballs > >>> snowballsnowballsnowball > >>> snowballsnowball > >>> > >>> > >>> You are now involved in an e-mail snowball fight. Send this to > all > >>> your > >>> > >>> friends and relatives. Have fun with it. Remember in an online > >>> snowball > >>> fight no one gets hurt and no one gets cold and soaking wet. > >>> > >>> So nail your friends before they nail you. > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk Thu Dec 18 17:43:43 1997 From: J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk (Taylor JM) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 17:43:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester + me. Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 17:54:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Taylor JM To: "Taylor JM (Library)" Subject: Manchester + me. Hullo people.... ermm well since i'm going to the 2 and now it looks like the 3 B&S gigs in manchester, and have worked out how i'm getting there from birmingham and back to london on monday....ug... (though not anywhere to stay - details of the youth hostel were mentioned but i missed them...can anybody help???) i figured since i have 2 mins at the end of a very mad day on the pysch. ward where i work, i'd better v.briefly say a proper hello, and publicly regret not having had time to read the digests over the last however many months its been.... --------- that was yesterday postboned.....today was slightly less bonkers in the Strauss Nut House, but only slightly less. this morning was however very beautiful. a spontaneous art group that sprung up this morning was accompanied by tigermilk wafting around and pacifying the ward which was lovely, partic. hearing 'making lifesize models of the velvet underground in clay' (which is a bit beyond me) as i scuplted my own little fox(for obvious reasons).... which even ended up looking quite fox like, which shocked even me. Well B&S won over a couple of patients of very differing ages and background, and well,i had a lovely morning listening to the tape, with the sessions/demos ben did me too......top therapy i say :)....and we're getting a music therapist for a bit soon.....B&S will sufice in the mean time. tommorow more chaos ensues with the patients xmas party....60 minces pies baked already......mmmmm now what tape can i infiltrate into the pile of party tapes.....:) so anyway am late for yoga so gotta run, but if anybody can help with youth hostel (details/who'll be there??) or any other suggestions.... and i hope to see some of you on the 27+28th......i'll no doubt be in purple jeans.... and maybe a mogwai t-shirt. i don't know what noise an excited bunny makes, but ermm oh it's been a long day... happy thursday jim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Dec 18 18:36:18 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:36:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hugh gets a kicking In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34996655.128134@email.mcmail.com> On Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:27:28 +0000 (GMT), Honey wrote: >Right - time to give out some punishment. My mate Hugh who is coming >to Manchester joined the list and reckons you lot are all spotty >adolescents - he wants to know when you all get dirty (I told him >come along to the chat but he's shy). Shy? Classic spotty adolescent behaviour. Saint Lucy would eat a wimp like Hugh for breakfast. >You'll have seen his weak efforts to leave but he's still on so >far hahaha so time for some stick probably - Keith or Peter? No, Tag. >He also quite usefully sent out this info re. Mancs if it's not too >late, and it would be fun if Manchester residents or ex-pats could >violently disagree with him: Violence may be the only solution. >> Pubs near Town Hall - loads, problem is quite a few are small. However >> some decent ones within 5 - 10 mins walk: >> >> Atlas - trendy cafe bar - actually pretty good. Lots of room. There's actually an ever increasing number of such places all over the city centre, all basically the same. All playing Massive Attack or variations on that theme. >> Dukes 92 - newish pub in old building A bit far. >> British Protection - gay pub but really nice Briton's Protection. Is it gay? Smog played there a while ago, and that wasn't gay in any sense of the word. It's minute, but it's good and pubby. Square Albert gets my vote. > [ Ed: note the "but" - he's a fascist ] > >> Marble Arch - probably 10 - 15 mins away. But real ale heaven. Does that mean full of cable-knit sweaters discussing their pints of Roger's Old Smegma. 'I like a pint wi' dead flies in it'. Give me lager any day. Well not today, anyone who was on line at 12.30 lst night will know the state I was in. Never again. >> Lass O Gowrie - brew their own but not very cozy. Mark and Lard >> frequent. I'm sure Dina could tell you about the Lass. >> And for food I could suggest: >> >> Loads of Chinese round the corner, plus one Thai (Chang Rai) >> Good Pizza Express >> Cafe Uno - Italian over the road. Average >> Upmarket Indian over the road, but not that expensive - cant't remember >> what its called but its good. >> Mash and Air - dead trendy in gay village. Fisting in the bogs. Food >> pretty good. Service shite. Fisting in the bogs? And felching in the marshes. There are lots of places to eat nearby, too many to list. > [ Ed: ummm ] >> >> Anyway I know loads of places, although whether we will be able to get >> in with 30 peolpe on a Saturday night after Christmas is debateable. >> Other possibility is to drive/taxi 2 miles to Rusholme, home of the >> asian cafe. There are literally dozens of cheap curry houses (and good) >> where you take your own wine, beer etc. Best place to get lots of peolpe >> fed. Yes, this is true. It is a bit far, and the possibilities of ending up somewhere a bit dodgy are plentiful. >So that's it. You might also meet BlueBoy, a welsh lawyer, a >big-nosed english lecturer and a gay buddhist in Manchester with me - >look out for the area cordonned off by the police. Paul, you're so crazy. >Oh and see you in #Sinister tonight, cos, let's face it, Wednesday >isn't the meet up day, it's everyday. Damn right. Looks like all go for the after show disco dancing extravaganza. Learn the mashed potato, the madison, the hustle. The best dancer gets a snog from me, the worst gets one from Julian. And anyone who won't dance gets fisted in the bogs by Hugh. Details to follow tomorrow or as soon as I've spoken to the elusive promoter man. My hangover is now clear and I love everyone again. Unless they support Middlesboro. Bye Love Tag xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bohobird1 at xxx.com Thu Dec 18 19:26:34 1997 From: bohobird1 at xxx.com (DALE COOPER) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:26:34 PST Subject: Sinister: GINGER FRIDAYS IN TORONTO!! Message-ID: <19971218192635.16123.qmail@hotmail.com> GINGER IS THIS FRIDAY! EVERYONE, BE PREPARED FOR MORE UK-INDIE WITH A SOUPY TWIST. WITH ALL NEW PROMO VIDEOS DIRECT FROM THE UK! HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE. Other ginger dates include: january 2nd, 16th and 30th. Open letter to the cities sweetest parvenu, Welcome to ginger...or welcome back. This letter is an introduction to a Three-dimensional joy-ride. So it seems fitting to invite you to relax, loosen your belt and perhaps pour yourself another aqua vitae. Long has Toronto suffered the sticky (often mundane) battle of the nightclub. Commercial castles of music are popping up everywhere but beyond the architectural obtuseness, top forty dance beats and Meat-packaging atmosphere there is little marketability left in the budget for substance. Ginger is a new discretion invested in the passion for new UK indie, eclectic beats, sparkling orchestral pop and even some moog pulsations but still vibrating the resonance of the beau ideal past. This night also hopes to pass a little debauchery, shallow flash and designer sneers into the aesthetic of the night. Ginger is unapologetically a vainglorious evening. Some of the bands you may be titillated with include, David Devant and His Spirit Wife, My Life Story, Divine Comedy, Rialto, Travis, the Experimental Pop Band, Momus, Elcka, Lucky 15, Dubstar, Babybird, Olive, Orlando, the Weekenders, Mulu, Ether, Cola Boy, Belle & Sebestian,Peach, Corduory, Denim and favourites include Bowie, the Jam, the Stones,Pulp, Suede, the Smiths, Echo and the Bunnymen, the Verve, Spiritualized, sometimes Blur and many more. GINGER HAS HER NEXT APPEARANCE ON THIS FRIDAY DECEMBER 19th...1997 Ginger is Djed by Elvis Aristotle and Hosted by Lady Somerset. Bohobird1 also hosts and finances this extravagant night out. Darrell and Nora our appreciations also extend to their efforts. GINGER WILL BE AT THE BIG BOP THIS FRIDAY. BIG BOP IS LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF QUEEN AND BATHURST. We have also managed to keep the drink prices lower than previous big bop events (orange alert)! 19+/$4....because you know you want to. "Go back to the eras of the highest decorative art and you will find it a time when the workman had beautiful surroundings; for the best periods of the decorative arts have been the ages of costume, when men and women wore noble attire and walked in beauty that could pass at once into marble and stone to be the admiration of all succeeding ages." Oscar Wilde ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Dec 18 21:03:22 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:03:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: And the winner is.... Message-ID: <34998F99.E4D49211@colon.net.> What a fiendish competition! My entry is already whirling through cyberspace on the way to the Poetry Society. Hopefully they will give Trousers a big fat raise for using his initiative to promote poetry at its best. Huzzah! What an exciting digest today! At the risk of going over old ground, yes, Gabrielle Drake (Gabby to her friends) is that bloke out of Crossroads. I don't know if it's featured in the new book, but there is a touching photograph in existence of Nick pushing Sandy around reception in his wheelchair. A light hearted off screen moment. I nearly met Gabrielle Drake once, in Hastings. She was appearing in some play or other with the equally majestic Ian Lavender. But I didn't meet her, so I can fuck off. I almost bought Deep Purple As and Bs today, but I'm frightened of the Bs. Maybe tomorrow, as Badfinger so memorably sang. Best hair in the history of pop. Tag, my "undercarriage" bears no resemblance to that of a bull, and I've been here all along, it's just that my response time has been reduced by becoming a digest person, instead of a cutting edge normal listee. But I do indeed want to rock with Led Zep. I forgot....there was an interview with Gabrielle Drake about her brother in the NME a few years ago. Their father is Charlie Drake! Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Fri Dec 19 00:19:43 1997 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 00:19:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: we're the younger generation......... Message-ID: <199712182306.XAA08917@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> OK This time I want some responses to a message posted on this list. Every single time before I have been completely ignored. No-one apart from a nice American lady even said hello. Is it because I am 17 and not a 30 year old record industry guru? Btw. no offence to any gurus 'cause you have a cool job and I only say that 'cause I don't know any ones age or profession. I am naturally a student. 17 and soon to go the lovely Bangor university. A million miles from my native London. Oh how that makes me glad! Believe me I have been on this list for a few weeks now.... Anyway I am Northy. Full name Richard North but I prefer just Northy. Anyway - have I got anything to say? Well - yes! I am being bored doing my AS level computing project and decided to put on a CD. Y'know when you've got a long task to do and you stick a quality album on? Anyway - I put Kenickie - At the Club on and it just bored me so I put my beloved IYFS CD on. Wow - they are great Seeing other People is just the greatest lyrical songsmithery song I have ever heard. Sublime Only two songs have ever made me laugh out loud. Honestly - just two. Morrissey - Boy Racer "he thinks he's got the whole world at his feet standing at the urinal" B&S - Seeing other People "at least she knows where to put it" Magic! Has Modern Rock is Rubbish received any airplay yet? I always listen to the superb alternative X-fm but I have heard nothing yet. When is it out. I can't wait. Oh yeah - can someone make me a copy of Tigermilk as my contact seems to have forgotten about me. Please I really want a copy I am really jealous of everyone going to Manchester! The list should be great fun when everyone has seen each other's faces. I will feel quite left out (if I don't already) I really will! Don't worry though when (if?) they come to London I will there buying tickets quicker than you can say "Pack your job in son"!!!!!!! bye from a fox feeling left out cold in the snow.......... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Thu Dec 18 11:51:27 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 18 Dec 97 11:51:27 Subject: Sinister: Snow! State! Help! Message-ID: <9712182344.AA0424@notesgw.compuserve.com> >>"jon g." >>well, after all the fox in the snow reports, I thought I had better inform you that: >>!!!- IT IS SNOWING IN SHEFFIELD!!!!! >> Yeah!! >> Sorry, I just thought you outght to know: Hurrah for Sheffield and its fantastic snowfall track record! Probably the best two weeks of my life were accompanied (and partially caused) by the gorgeous avalanche of January 1996. I was the only person awake to pad through those first fat flakes that fell all around at 3AM on an early weekday morning in Crookes. No foxes, but perhaps that would have overegged the Walls Romantico pudding. Truly, Sheffield can put on a true snow show. Not like this piddling town London with its pathetic mean-minded little dots of half-baked flakes (tip - never attempt to bake snow) that melt before they even reach the overheated concrete. The State I am In (parts 17-24): I confessed to joining in #sinister to some friends last night. They were not impressed. I think they were worried I might end up married to a club-footed spinster from Arkansaw or something. It was all so difficult to justify to an outsider. Even the mailing list. "What on earth do you talk about?" scoffed Suzanne. "Um" said I. As for workmates, they find it amusing enough that I should even be looking at a website about a band called Belle & Sebastian. And when I said I couldn't go for a drink because I needed to get home to record a session off the radio, they assumed I was joking. When it became clear I wasn't, one said "Wouldn't it be simpler just to buy the album?". It's a different world... Important (for me) bit: I've only got 2 days left to abuse work internet facilities before I retire to my country seat. I think I may have missed the final Manchester meet up details - are they posted somewhere? Could some kind person point me in the right direction. Xmas cheer to you all. Love from Nick (or, as the mailing list archive has it - [no name] - I like that) xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Thu Dec 18 23:55:56 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 23:55:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pop went my tousers Message-ID: <199712182356.XAA02442@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> ---------------------- its a trap easily lead into touch me stroke me love me poke me in a touchy feely plain dont complain be vain and fall into the trap. i go with a swagger dressed in bubble wrap. it attracts the stressed double breast suit gets attention it bears such fruit as let me see you are a cad pop me baby you know im bad. but soon enough the bubbles go my frail bodys imperfections show. chased from swanky bars and pubs beautiful bar maids wielding clubs bubble wrap total crap dont wear it out send it back. ---------------------- learn from my mistake. .j 0n ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From itstrue at xxx.net Fri Dec 19 00:58:59 1997 From: itstrue at xxx.net (Reid) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:58:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: Finding B&S in the US Message-ID: <3499C6D2.3F29@earthlink.net> Belle and Sebastianly speaking, I had a pretty great day today. The only thing that I was missing (except for Tigermilk, obviously) was the "Lazy Line Painter Jane" single, so I stopped into Monster records here in Chapel Hill (where I had bought all of my other B&S stuff) to...y'know, just to *see*. And, obviously, I found it. And it is as great as everyone said it is. I would have to say that it's my favorite of the three singles. But then again, I'm a sucker for male/female vocals. By the way, could anyone give some more info on the female singer in "Lazy Line..."? Does anyone else think she sounds a bit like Kate Bush? So, anyway, it's not that difficult to find B&S stuff in the states. I mean, Chapel Hill is a great town, but Boston or San Fran it ain't! And I managed to find all three singles and IYFS in the two non-chain record stores with relative ease. So look around a little more. It's there.... ~Reid -- "If the editors of the Manhattan Argus see fit to publish the rantings of a disordered mind, perhaps they will see fit to publish this letter!" J. Reid Dossinger (Chapel Hill, NC) itstrue at earthlink.net or (alternate) itstrue at mailcity.com AUTOFAC reviews: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/8002 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Thu Dec 18 23:56:46 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:56:46 -0200 Subject: Sinister: we're the younger generation......... Message-ID: <199712182209.WAA22720@gemeos.electus.com.br> > Morrissey - Boy Racer "he thinks he's got the whole world at his feet ... Northy. .... ..but , he (Mozzer) USED to have the world in his feet !!!!!!!! Southy (south america) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkl206 at xxx.edu Fri Dec 19 01:16:22 1997 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:16:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: that blasted irc! Message-ID: so i wander in planning to chat for about five minutes, and end up staying significantly longer. i've never had any inducement to play around on the irc before, and now i'm totally addicted. i agree with the guy who said that it's hard to justify. i was always sure that i wasn't addicted to the internet cause i just did email and a bit of web surfing, and stayed away from the "hot and heavy" chat rooms. ew. course, i think ours is much nicer than those, oh well. it's a lovely chance to talk and will have to make due until someone comes up with list confrence calling! ;) anyway, sorry to those (pam and john) whom i abandonned earlier. my phone line clicked off. whoops. and to the rest, i've never properly introduced myself. i'm a freshman and new york university who learned about belle and sebastian through another mailing list about a year ago. i picked up the cd around january cause i'd never heard of another band that was so unanimously supported by the people on that list. of course, i'm sure most of you know what happened next. ;) i didn't get to see them playing here in september, but i hope to see them next time. perhaps i'll even have the ways and means to plan a trip around seeing them at some point. but until then, i agree that those of you at the manchester shows should give detailed reports! xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Does anyone else think she sounds a bit like Kate Bush? i bought an EP from her band thrum the other day...it's from about 4 years ago, on fire recs. it was an import, typically overpriced, but it's sort of interesting... ok, so it sounds like a countryfied belly. rather 4AD. not bad but not worth the price...imho... she does have a rather incredible voice, tho. back to lurking, brian bcw4977 at is2.nyu.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Dec 19 09:20:45 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:20:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: that blasted irc! References: Message-ID: <349A3C6D.63D2272@totalweb.co.uk> Just a public health warning: IRC can cause serious damage to your phone bill and social life. it's still possible to chat via e-mail you know, that's sorta why the list is here :) david @ the fanclub -- **Megan Lehar** wrote: > so i wander in planning to chat for about five minutes, and end up staying > significantly longer. i've never had any inducement to play around on the > irc before, and now i'm totally addicted. i agree with the guy who said > that it's hard to justify. i was always sure that i wasn't addicted to the > internet cause i just did email and a bit of web surfing, and stayed away > from the "hot and heavy" chat rooms. ew. course, i think ours is much > nicer than those, oh well. it's a lovely chance to talk and will have to > make due until someone comes up with list confrence calling! ;) > > anyway, sorry to those (pam and john) whom i abandonned earlier. my phone > line clicked off. whoops. and to the rest, i've never properly introduced > myself. i'm a freshman and new york university who learned about belle and > sebastian through another mailing list about a year ago. i picked up the > cd around january cause i'd never heard of another band that was so > unanimously supported by the people on that list. of course, i'm sure most > of you know what happened next. ;) i didn't get to see them playing here > in september, but i hope to see them next time. perhaps i'll even have the > ways and means to plan a trip around seeing them at some point. but until > then, i agree that those of you at the manchester shows should give > detailed reports! > > xox > megan > > mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu > > visit the magnetic fields web page at: > http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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URL: From bcaron at xxx.fr Fri Dec 19 11:24:17 1997 From: bcaron at xxx.fr (Bertrand Caron) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:24:17 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: I think that I'm not original but I would like to know if soeone who has tigermi lk could copy it for me on a K7.(answer directly to me at: betrand.caron at ensimag .imag.fr because i don't read every sinister digest) ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Bertrand Caron Date: 19-Dec-97 Time: 12:24:17 ---------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Dec 19 13:00:58 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 13:00:58 GMT Subject: Sinister: Aftershow Message-ID: <34a36fb7.15044028@email.mcmail.com> OK Saturday 27th...Aftershow party....Upstairs at the Star and Garter, Fairfield St, Manchester (home of the legendary Smile club)...Smashing tunes...Disco dancing....All welcome....£2 to get in (to cover room hire and fliers...we are NOT, repeat NOT, making any money...drinks are pretty cheap (especially for Londoners)...It's a bit of a walk from the Town Hall, but there's a tram stop outside the Town Hall, so you can get a tram to Piccadilly Train Station and it's near there. And a taxi rank too. We'll be doing fliers for it hopefully with maps and things. Band may well come, but don't mob them cos they'll be scared, and they deserve a place to dance till they drop. Music: You can probably guess: stuff across the ages whether 60's pop, Northern Soul, or 80's/90s indie, and all kinds of pop jewels in between. Any q's mail me. Please come along cos it will be fun, and we have good taste! Love and kisses Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From GUSRAT at xxx.com Fri Dec 19 13:22:00 1997 From: GUSRAT at xxx.com (GUSRAT) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:22:00 EST Subject: Sinister: TAB OF THE DAY Message-ID: The Stars of Track and Field B--------------------F#--------------E------------- Make a new cult every day to suit your affairs B--------------------F#--------------A--------------- Kissing girls in English, at the back of the stairs G-----------------------------------------B-------------- You're a honey, with a following of innocent boys E-------------------- They never know it B----------------------- Because you never show it B-----------------------F#-- You always get your way They never know it Because you never show it You always get your way Have you and her been taking pictures of your obsessions? Because I met a kid who went through one of your sessions In his blue velour and silk You liberated A boy I never rated And now he's throwing discuss For Liverpool and Widnes You liberated A boy I never rated And now he's doing business The stars of track and field, you are The stars of track and field, you are The stars of track and field are beautiful people Could I write a piece about you now that you've made it? About the hours spent, the emptiness in your training You only did it so that you could wear Your terry underwear And feel the city air Run past your body Could I write a requiem for you when you're dead? "She had the moves, she had the speed, it went to her head" She never needed anything to get her round the track But when she's on her back She had the knowledge To get her into college But when she's on her back She had the knowledge To get her into college ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Dec 19 13:21:57 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 13:21:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: aaaaaahhh....i dunno! Message-ID: God IRC is adictive. anyway! This time of year i think its time that, well, i was going to say love each other, but i've just seen how ugly Steve Lamaq looks so i shall change that to start a fund to hide Steve Lamaq in a corner away from photographers 4eva....am i making sense? no? goody. um, yes anyway, i meant to say isn't it good how the maker described the manchester dates! and as for the manics fans things......that was a bit sad. i mean old fans vs new fans....grr go away. the main thing they're talking about with 'new' fans are 'new' as in Oasis/Cast/Shed7 lads who HAVEN'T gone back.... ah fuck it. I LOVE BELLE & SEBASTIAN BY THE WAY. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!!!! -- Sarah the angry young glamourpuss! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Fri Dec 19 11:33:04 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:33:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: well, here it is... Message-ID: <80256572.005C345B.00@bull.co.uk> merry christmas, everybody's having fun. apparently. this'll have to be my last post of the year as i'm leaving work this afternoon and won't be back until january... been a strange year. went to scotland for the first time to see belle and sebastian, went to oxford for the first time in 10 years or so to see belle and sebastian, went to america for the first time to see belle and sebastian. five b&s gigs in all bringing my total up to 6. two more to come too, i'll see a lot of you there... also this year i've been keeping a list of everything i've bought recordswise and i'm just about to bore you with the details: 39 7" singles 2 10" singles 10 12" singles 56 cd singles 2 cassettes 62 cd albums which is kinda scary cos it must come in at over a thousand pounds easily (i do have all the prices written down too but can't be arsed to add them up). worse still is the fact that i know lots of people who bought so much more than i did... the best bits? um, autechre's envane ep was enough to make me rush out and buy their new album and the previous three, photek's ni ten ichi ryu was great but would be even better if it was 2 minutes shorter, dog on wheels ep of course (the other two didn't even get close to this) and string bean jean in particular, that spiritualized lp (apart from, curiously, the track they chose as a single but which sounded to me like a giant 10 year leap backwards), bowery electric, mogwai young team, the turn on cd (but not the stereolab cd), and probably more things. oh, b&s were number 1 in the teletext top singles of the year with dog on wheels. blah blah, simon and garfunkel, blah blah... um, the chat thing. sometimes i log in and then immediately get called to attend to something else, sometimes i log in and just sit there listening, sometimes i even join in. it's odd the way people treat it as if it's a real space and type out their interactions. it's nice that all the girls seem so comfortable in there, in fact they've probably taken to it better than all the boys who tend to sit around and talk catalogue numbers. it makes my brain ache to think of everything that has to happen in order for it to look as though half a dozen people from diffferent continents are in one place and getting along but it works and is great fun. well, i'm off to get very nervous (in a good way) about next tuesday in cheltenham and will see those of you i don't see in machester back here on the 5th jan. cheers andy (oh, there's a slight chance i'll be able to pick up my mail on koogydelbbog at yahoo.com but no chance of picking up any sent to andrew.dean at bull.net so...) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Fri Dec 19 11:49:01 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 11:49:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: radio scotland thing Message-ID: <80256572.005C34A9.00@bull.co.uk> matt mentioned this to me yesterday but i didn't know anything about it... b&s are hosting a radio scotland show 'beat patrol' on the 21st of december according to the last mail out. could some kind scottish soul remember to tape it for everyone? thanks see you all andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ab0u600b at xxx.uk Fri Dec 19 18:25:06 1997 From: ab0u600b at xxx.uk (Dawn) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:25:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bye Bye Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19971219182506.306f829c@pop1.liv.ac.uk> I'll be lurking again after Christmas, so have a great time at the gig,,, wish I was going.... Dawn x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Fri Dec 19 19:38:46 1997 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 19:38:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: number one single of the year Message-ID: <199712191825.SAA10100@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> IF YOU LIVE IN ENGLAND THEN GO TO CHANNEL FOUR TELETEXT PAGE 484 that's FOUR EIGHT FOUR and SEE THE GLORY OF BELLE AND SEBASTIAN The single of the year Belle and Sebastian - Dog on Wheels yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss!!! northy from the paw of the pink panther or just Northy being escapist? _________________________________________________ ``A man is as old as the women he feels.'' - Groucho Marx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Fri Dec 19 23:05:42 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (S.K. Gardiner) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 23:05:42 +0000 (gmt) Subject: Sinister: Byeeeeee In-Reply-To: <34a36fb7.15044028@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: Right, I'm off home as well tomorrow (this list's going to be quiet over Christmas, there's noone left!). I'll see some of you in Manchester at any of the three gigs. If you see a devilishly handsome young man, it won't be me. But if you see a ridiculously tall 20-year old, it probably will be. And I apologise in advance to anyone who ends up standing behind me who can't see the stage... Merry Christmas! Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Fri Dec 19 23:31:32 1997 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:31:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: 4AD to delete a lot of catalog Message-ID: <01BD0CAC.553FE180@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> Hot off the presses from the 4AD list: 4AD, troubled by the fact that Gus Gus hasn't been doing as well as they hoped, and that they've basically sucked for the last seven years is now deleting most of their catalog. So pick up those Cocteau Twins Eps you've been meaning to buy but just haven't found the time. Off to procure Spirea-X's Fireblade Skies Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Dec 20 00:41:56 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 19:41:56 EST Subject: Sinister: B&S on Sessions Message-ID: <70498b23.349b1456@aol.com> To all of us poor, jealous American fans who are hoping to see B&S on PBS and wondering when the Sessions at W. 54th show will air -- and who were hoping it would be on Dec. 27th to take the sting out of the Manchester shows we'll miss: For what it's worth, I got an e-mail today from Chris Douridas, the host of Sessions at West 54th. I had sent off the question several weeks or more ago -- just 2 days ago was bitching about him not replying, and today here it is. In answer to my query about when the B&S segment would be airing, he said, "I think the Belle & Sebastion segment airs in February." I also had heard rumor that it wasn't going to air at all, so this is sort of favorable all in all. But, since the message was kind of vague, I'd tune in on 12/27 anyway... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Sat Dec 20 08:57:43 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 97 08:57:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: Snow! State! Help! Message-ID: <971220085743.n0006775.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 18 Dec 97, Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB wrote... >The State I am In (parts 17-24): > I confessed to joining in #sinister to some friends last night. They were not >impressed. I think they were worried I might end up married to a club-footed >spinster from Arkansaw or something. It was all so difficult to justify to an >outsider. Even the mailing list. "What on earth do you talk about?" scoffed >Suzanne. "Um" said I. Ha ha! I haven't even confessed to my friends (except my flatmate who's a 'geek' too) that I even use the INTERNET , let alone am chatting happily away to a bunch of strangers in cyberspace. What would they think? Probably drop me straight away I should imagine, for the net is still halfway between the preserve of trainspotters and computer nerds and a way to go before enjoying any sort of credibility. I made the dire mistake of telling an old bloke at work, who is online at home too, hoping he would have the sense to refer to it only in hushed whispers, but at corporate tea-time the other day, he suddenly piped up " 'surfed' into any good 'websites' recently ;-) ?" to which my workmates turned round and stared at me incredulously, like all my clothes had suddenly vanished or something. I muttered something about my flatmate buying a computer and 'internal modems bog standard these days' , but the die was cast and am forced to wear 'GEEK' tattoed across my forehead for all to see. They don't know what they're missing susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oasis at xxx.au Sat Dec 20 11:35:37 1997 From: oasis at xxx.au (Pete) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:35:37 +1100 Subject: Sinister: Hi Belle and Sebastian list Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19971220223537.00799320@magna.com.au> Hi I just joined the list. I live as far away from Glasgow as could be conceivably possible, Sydney Australia. Although I did see the Fannies a week ago and again they played this song by Yo La Tengo, of which I'd love to know it's name so I could listen to the CD. Anyhow I do much love Belle and Sebastian, and bought the CD If You're Feeling Sinister with no preconceptions as to what it would be like, except the memory of reading somewhere that it was a gem of a CD. I don't have much money so this was an importamnt purchase for me Sooooooo, I listened to it once, didnt enjoy it, although thought Nick Drake and Tindersticks who i adore. Listened to it again, then again, and suddenly it seeped into me like some of my favourite music. Marvellous stuff chappies, wonderful playing, beautiful atmospheres and textures and wow lyrics which are more than worthy of reading and contemplating. I wonder if they'd attract a mosh in Sydney. Anyhow if a Belle or Sebastian person reads this, come to Australia, I can guarantee a good crowd at a decent sized venue and anything else you think of within reason :) Anyhow, hi people on the list Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Sat Dec 20 12:57:43 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 12:57:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: RE: Chat (fwd) Message-ID: OK - B&S chat part 1. Stuart David sent me REPLIES to Susannah's very shy questions - they do READ the list sometimes you know :) This should scare her pants off :) >From Stuart David: > > Here is some answers. > > Stuart Murdoch: > You've seen 'Star Test', so in that vein, would you care to pick five > adjectives out of the following list that best describe your personality? > > gay, sophisticated, sensitive, rampant, bizarre, gay, nervous, tactless, > intelligent, moody, gay, thoughtful, carefree, casual, ambiguos, gay. > > Stuart is not gay. But he sometimes gets a bit nervous. :) > > Sarah, lovely Sarah: > Whenever you blow on your recorder you have a smirk on your face, what are > you thinking about? > > Boys > > Chris Geddes: > Ian Brown once said that it was almost impossible to wear flares with a leg > width of more than 21 inches. How big is yours? > > In all seriousness, 29 inches. > > > Stuart Davids question is too rude to print. Nothing's too rude for me > > Richard Colburn: > Being the drummer in the band, you probably get a lot of fan mail, in fact you > must get piles!! Ha ha > > Stevie: > funny little stevie, do you play the banjo as a hobby or for a dare? > > Unfortunately he thinks its a cool instrument > > > Isobel: how many band members have you actually slept with? That's not nice. > > > Well, what do you think? bit rude maybe? > > Nope So there you go, NOT a "bit rude" so any followups? Oh, and my main server at work is buggered just after I finished work for Xmas so the Sinister mailing service might be, ahem, unpredictable just now. Bear with me and I'll go in and kick its arse sometime this weekend. Finally, there's plans afoot to see who can be amongst the elite of saddest nerds on the list - a chat on Xmas day. Would be geeks who havent got chat software are invited to post messages on Christmas day to show that they haven't got any friends too. Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Sat Dec 20 17:12:22 1997 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 17:12:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap on Advertisment? In-Reply-To: <971220085743.n0006775.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: Hi Sinisterians, I was at the movies today watching 'Tomorrow Never Dies' and before that .... as usual there were loads of advertisments. There was this advertisment which caught my ear .... a 'Guniness' stout advertisment playing tunes similiar to Arab Strap's 'Something for the weekend' (I think). Can anyone englighten me? See you people at B/S gig. Probably, it will be easy for you to regonize me! Im chinese .... see ya! Cheers D A N I E L O O ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Sat Dec 20 18:32:08 1997 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:32:08 EST Subject: Sinister: Single Of The Year Message-ID: <4d09be3d.349c0f2a@aol.com> Extract from Planet Sound’s music critics’ Top 30 Singles Of 1997, UK Teletext p484, December 20 1997:- "26: BELLE & SEBASTIAN 3..6..9...Seconds Of Light Swoon! Sigh! B&S aren’t so much a love affair as an addiction. This, the third EP of ‘97 from the ‘sensitive’ Scots combo, included five slices of jangly genius with THE best lyrics of ‘97. We guarantee you’d hate this. Probably." And at Number One...... "1: BELLE & SEBASTIAN Dog On Wheels EP Well, OK, you won’t have heard this (or even OF it), but at least we didn’t go for Bittersweet Symphony like every other pop hack in Britain! A four-song CD, this starts with a Simon & Garfunkel-esque amble through fields of whimsy, slides into the beautiful State That I Am In, takes in an anorexia-themed String Bean Jean and ends with the ‘jaunty’ Belle & Sebastian. Trust us, you’ll know who they are soon." Singles lower in the list include the likes of Pavement, Blur, All Saints, Radiohead, The Verve, Prodigy, Hanson, Backstreet Boys, Helen Love, Spice Girls and the Chemical Brothers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Sat Dec 20 18:37:17 1997 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 13:37:17 EST Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap Message-ID: CMD Loo - yes, it's a remix of Arab Strap's 'Summer' single. I think. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Sun Dec 21 02:15:57 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 97 18:15:57 PST Subject: Sinister: hurry Message-ID: it's that time of the year again. the time when the whole world goes top ten crazy. best albums. best books. best movies. well, i'm not gonna bore you with all that crap. i'm gonna list three things that i discovered in the past twelve months and i'm glad i did. 1. belle and sebastian 2. jonathan richman 3. orange juice nuff said -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gareth at xxx.uk Sat Dec 20 22:00:42 1997 From: gareth at xxx.uk (grrreth) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 22:00:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Finding B&S in the US/lazy line In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <349e3fab.2526555@post.demon.co.uk> On Thu, 18 Dec 1997 22:08:53 -0500 (EST), brian wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 1997, Reid wrote: > > > By the way, could anyone give some more info on the female singer in > > "Lazy Line..."? Does anyone else think she sounds a bit like Kate Bush? > > i bought an EP from her band thrum the other day...it's from about 4 years > ago, on fire recs. it was an import, typically overpriced, but it's sort > of interesting... > > ok, so it sounds like a countryfied belly. rather 4AD. ever heard lone justice? i'm sure monica has. > she does have a rather incredible voice, tho. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Dec 20 19:39:42 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:39:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: any times for manchester???? please? Message-ID: note to Paul/honey! if you see me on IRC, kick me off. I've gotta save on my phone bill! ANYWAY! the aftershow sounds brilliant. Just one thing, does anyone know about when this'll end? I wanted to get a train back but I think I'll have missed the last one by the time it all winds up. If someone could try and give me some times for stuff, tat'd be great. At the mo i don't even know when to get to manchester for. On the sat btw. Anything sorted David/Katrina? thanks a lot. and remeber people, i'll be the one with the STAR wand, probably singing a really bad song, like Wham! or something. I'm only going to listen to B&S that day, and be very Belleandsebastiany! however that is. huh stuart. you never answered my questions. then again they weren't really as good as Sussanahs were they? and i was probably a bit arsey. i'm sorry, i'm just very strange to put it simply i'm gonna stop digging now. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From robinh at xxx.com Sun Dec 21 00:43:20 1997 From: robinh at xxx.com (robinh at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 19:43:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: yo la tengo Message-ID: >>>>> Hi I just joined the list. I live as far away from Glasgow as could be conceivably possible, Sydney Australia. Although I did see the Fannies a week ago and again they played this song by Yo La Tengo, of which I'd love to know it's name so I could listen to the CD. <<<<< hmmm. if it's an instrumental, long-ish, chances are it's I Heard You Looking, from Yo La's truly outstanding _Painful_ album. Teenage Falnclub have been known to include it in their live sets from time to time... other recommended YLT albums to explore: _I Can Hear The Heart Beating As One_ (the most recent one), _Electr-O-Pura_, _May I Sing With Me_ .... and the odds & sods collection from last year _Genius + Love = YLT_ is pretty damned wonderful too. the holidays exhaust me ---rh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sun Dec 21 11:06:58 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 11:06:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap on Advertisment? References: Message-ID: <349CF852.8035BBEB@mail.zynet.co.uk> CMD LOO wrote: > Hi Sinisterians, > > I was at the movies today watching 'Tomorrow > Never Dies' and before that > .... as usual there were loads of > advertisments. There was this > advertisment which caught my ear .... a > 'Guniness' stout advertisment > playing tunes similiar to Arab Strap's > 'Something for the weekend' (I > think). Can anyone englighten me? it's the backing track to big weekend... originally Aidan was going to be doing the voice over but someone decided he sounded too scottish, so they used the other bloke instead. coincidentally, i was dj-ing a party last weekend and i played the peel session version ('first big peel thing') and a lot of people said 'oh this is that guiness song, i really love it, who's it by?' the track 'first big weekend' as a single is long deleted, but you can get it on the amazing 'the week never starts round here' LP. a hit! no less. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Sun Dec 21 11:58:36 1997 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 11:58:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Please. Message-ID: <01bd0e07$c4c5cfe0$LocalHost@dell> Visit mt website!! This is not a desperate attempt to gain more hits (I don't have a page counter),but I thought you might like it. There is a Belle & Sebastian section, which is not very good, but I had to make the effort, as a sort of pilgrimage. The other reason you should go is so that you can vote for your Album and Single of 1997. I changed the rules of the Album one, so that you could vote for If You're Feeling Sinister, but I am getting votes for Urban Hymns and other such non-delights. Please, for the sake of fab B&S, go and save them from the teeth of that Ashcroft man. It is at http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ thanks jon g. (A sunday luchtime person) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Sun Dec 21 18:47:57 1997 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Sun, 21 Dec 1997 13:47:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: puncture.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Puncture mag. this issue covers belle and sab. barsky. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ "Un homage to a sharp kid." A head that's fed to a dancer's arse, a gambler of youth, a sulphate-skinny creature of envy. A modern day figurine born of Colin Machines. >From his feather cut top to the depths of his sub-atomic soul on top of the world. These Animal Men ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From masson at xxx.fr Mon Dec 22 10:53:22 1997 From: masson at xxx.fr (Pierre-Alain Masson) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:53:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hi Belle and Sebastian list References: <3.0.5.32.19971220223537.00799320@magna.com.au> Message-ID: <349E46A1.41C67EA6@amadeus.univ-fcomte.fr> Pete wrote: > > Hi > I just joined the list. I live as far away from Glasgow as could be > conceivably possible, Sydney Australia. Although I did see the Fannies a > week ago and again they played this song by Yo La Tengo, of which I'd love > to know it's name so I could listen to the CD. > Don't know wich song that might have been, but anyway Yo La Tengo is fantastic, don't miss their records. Especially, to my mind, - I can hear the heart beating as one (realeased this year), - Fakebook, - Painfull... > Sooooooo, I listened to it once, didnt enjoy it, although thought Nick > Drake and Tindersticks who i adore. Listened to it again, then again, and > suddenly it seeped into me like some of my favourite music. Marvellous > stuff chappies, wonderful playing, beautiful atmospheres and textures and > wow lyrics which are more than worthy of reading and contemplating. I didn't really appreciate it the first time either. Nothing was there to capture the listener BY FORCE. But then, I listened to it a second time, and from that moment ... I probably never had this feeling a record could be so close and important to me since I discovered The SMITHS. CU. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Mon Dec 22 10:59:29 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 10:59:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Beat Patrol. Message-ID: <1EBC5DB721E@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> So there I was, tuning in to my favourite radio program, to find out that it was being 'hosted' by Belle and Sebastian. I found Belle and Sebastian earlier this year. I was clearing out my tapes and came across this tape of a radio show. I was idly trying to work out what it was, whether I should wipe it, when I came across an intro "Monday morning, wake up...." etc. etc. I was hooked. Peter Easton, the presenter, exclaimed at the end "Shucks. Don't you think? Shucks." I suppose that brings us back round to Peanuts. But anyway, yesterday, all B & S, bar Mr. Trumpet man where in the studio choosing their favourite records, which included Queen and Tom Waits. Isobel was charmingly nervously gigly. Some B & S tunes where played, Slow Graffiti. I've got it taped if anyone wants the whole thing. Its not particularly great sound quality, but hey. Lots of jokes about whether Mr. Murdock should strutt around the stage. Anyway, love to all, chris xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Mon Dec 22 11:02:08 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:02:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh ---> Manchester. Message-ID: <1EBD11B6F45@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> Would anyone like to share petrol costs, would like a lift from Edinburgh to Manchester. Leaving Saturday, whenever-ish, returning Sunday, lunchtime, early afternoon-ish? If so, drop me an email, and if I don't reply to that by 5 tonight, give me a call on 337 7120. Barp, barp, chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Mon Dec 22 11:03:28 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:03:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Possible spare ticket. Message-ID: <1EBD6BB3B66@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> I've possibly got a spare ticket for the Saturday show. If anyone is interested, give me a buzz on 0131-337-7120 this evening or tomorrow evening, and i'll see what I can do. love to all, chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Mon Dec 22 11:05:54 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:05:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Floors, Youth Hostel, cheap hotels. Message-ID: <1EBE0931CF4@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> a) If I go for a wee boogie after the show on Saturday, can I still get into the Youth Hostel, or is there a curfew. Otherwise, anyone suggest a very cheap hotel for the night, or offer a floor for me. I can bring Jaffa Cakes or flapjacks. cheers, chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Dec 22 11:56:00 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 11:56:00 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian .. on the radio, and virgins Message-ID: Yeah I can probably start returning the hundreds of favours from you beautiful people by doing some tapes of the B&S radio program too. I slapped it onto video tape instead of audio, so quite by chance I can, even though one of my tape players is out of action. So mail me if people want them - but if others apart from me and Chris could volunteer it'd be helpful - Linda will keep me if it means she misses The Sweeney. Chat room thing - we're getting a lot of wanderers, I was going to say Virgin wanderers, which is probably appropriate, who are just after cheap sex. So when Tag isn't around they get a bit lost and cause trouble and chat me up, which is fun sometimes but at others annoying. The option is to make the chatroom invisible except to those who know - you lot. But it might be confusing for newcomers and we might have a bit less fun. Votes to me please. Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Dec 22 14:00:16 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:00:16 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian .. playing songs for children Message-ID: Quick run through the Beat Patrol show for those who will miss it, as I'm listening to it just now. Sorry about the comments, just ignore them if you want. And the tape offer stands. *** Beat Patrol, Radio Scotland, 5-6pm 21st December 1997 *** OK - we get all the band members except Mick. They all pick favourite tracks and we hear three newish B&S recordings and some merry banter. I've not heard Beat Patrol before but I think the presenter's a bit blown away by the choices the band make, which is nice. There's quite a bit of teasing at the beginning by Isobel, Stuart David and Sarah, as anyone who was around when Stuart joined the chat unexpectedly a couple of nights ago will expect (ask me for a log :). Richard, Stuart M, Chris and Stevie come along then and we talk music a bit more. It's also nice to put voices to erm.. faces or shoes (Pam?) or something I suppose. - B&S: Loneliness Of The Middle-Distance Runner - [What a lovely song - I've actually never heard this as I'm behind on my session tape scraping and begging] - Isobel - Bobby Gentry and Glen Campbell: Little Green Apples [Cute Campbell link, a present to Isobel from a friend for Christmas sometime, whooshy swinging soft and sweet, just like Isobel's voice] - Stuart D - Tom Waits: Earth Dies Screaming [Tom in his rougher later more theatrical plonky phase - Stuart likes all Tom's stuff and very fine it is too.. erm, well I think so - Stuart says that is what B&S are aiming for - yeah...] - Sarah - Queen: Don't Stop Me Now [OK erm I'll beg ignorance of why on this one so I'll say nothing - that's what I like about B&S, the little shockers] - B&S: Slow Graffiti - [Another new one for woefully ignorant me (can someone do me a tape of the latest sessions??) - and this is the highlight for me, I can't think straight when it's on, it's so crushingly beautiful] - Stuart M - Madness: whatsitcalled, You're An Embarrassment (?) [Well everyone knows this - Stuart says it's because he hadn't heard it in ages] - Richard - Miles Davis: toon anyone? [I start getting very excited here: Miles Davis arranged by Gil Evans, earlier stuff, staccato and just wonderful; Richard apparently plays "cabaret drums"] - Mick - Chet Baker: Let's Get Lost [OK I can admit it now: I swoon everytime I hear Chet's trumpet and, although there's some teasing about his "crooning" I love his voice too - seems like a wonderful feminine kind of masculine voice. If anyone wants to talk Chet with me I will forever, and supply copious tapes! Forlornly romantic and so west coast coooool] - Chris - Young MC: Theme from Shaft (remix of Isaac Hayes original) [Chris's well known rap/groove persuasion coming out here - he says he doesn't want Stuart M to rap on stage necessarily, but he does really] - B&S: Just A Modern Rock Song - [We all know this I think?] - Stevie - Yoko Ono and the Plastic Ono Band: Listen The Snow Is Falling [B side of Christmas by John Lennon - really cute simple Christmas song, depending on your point of view (Tim J might go all scroogy on us)] - B&S: We Wish You A Merry Christmas - [DJ Krush remix] [Only joking] Honey P.S. Hugh's scared of you all now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Mon Dec 22 14:09:37 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 14:09:37 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199712221414.OAA06666@orange.easynet.co.uk> Is my mail program up the shoot, or were their only three mails over the weekend? Very odd. Maybe it's all the students taking their washing home for the winter Anyway: the Ivor Cutler competition . Another bumper bag of entries, of which four people got the answers right. Ivor Cutler played Buster Bloodvessel in Magical Mystery Tour. Ivor the Engine's scaly friend was Idris the Dragon. And Idris was a cracking singer in the church choir, a talent which spookily enough gives us some tangential B&S content. I took the four correct winners, popped them in the Poetry Society chapeau and picked one lucky recipient of the Ivor Cutler CD. And the winner was . (drum roll) . Peter Miller!!!! Congratulations, Windy! If you send me your address, maybe the CD will get to you before the New Year. Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Dec 22 16:42:47 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 16:42:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: URGENT!!! Message-ID: <349E9887.4817@virgin.net> Alright you lot ... i need some help! Desperately need to get into contact with: NJ MOWBRAY re collection of Manchester tickets BEN GRAHAM re collection of Manchester tickets PHIL GORMAN have you received your Manchester tickets yet? CHRIS STRIDE re purchase of Manchester ticket could they, or anyone else who knows them and has their phone number, please PHONE (not e-mail) me at JEEPSTER on 0181 964 9432 before 5.30pm today (Monday) or after 11am tomorrow (Tuesday), OR leave a message with their contact details on our answerphone at home AT ANY TIME ON 0181 560 1815 ... ... PLEASE? It is very important! Okey dokey, that's it really! Meet up details coming tonight ... love you all. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Dec 22 17:36:13 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:36:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Meet-up Message-ID: <349EA50D.670C@virgin.net> Alright, after much deliberation, we decided upon the pub venue for the Meet-up, so here's the details ... Saturday 27th December 1997 The Square Albert Pub 14 Albert Square Manchester (durrr ...!) M2 5PF and at 5pm the celebrations begin! If we can all meet in the upstairs part of the pub, wear your t-shirts/patch badges/album covers if you don't have any of the other stuff and we can finally put faces to the names ... hmm, wondering if St. Lucie will be there? Malcolm (the lovely man i spoke to at the pub) said they have a CD player rather than a jukebox, so if we be extra specially nice and friendly, we may even be able to play some cd's whilst there. I've already sent him some B&S, so let's hope he likes it! David and I may not be able to make it to anything on the Sunday arvo, due to the matinee, but I think that if we kind of arrange a Sunday meeting for the Sunday people same time, same place, those of us going tio the matinee also have somewhere to hang out before the evning show begins! Whaddya think? David & I shall be wearing face masks made out of the posters from the "3..6..9..." EP cover (obviously him Stuart and me the un-named girlie), so please, look twice if you think you spy Stuart, as it will probably just be David. Seriously though, don't be scared to introduce yourselves to as many people as possible, and if you can't catch D&I at the meet-up's or the aftershow, we'll be behind the merchandise stall for all three gigs, so say hi there! SEE YOU ALL THEN! Merry Christmas Everyone ... Lotsa love and festive wishes, Katrina & David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Mon Dec 22 18:26:02 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 97 18:26:02 GMT Subject: Sinister: B&S in Mojo magazine Message-ID: <971222182602.n0006809.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Urm, B&S are in Mojo magazine this month. Nothing really that you haven't heard already, a couple of quotes from Stuart David and Chris, but girls there's a luvverly pic of Stuart Murdoch , which brings me to my next query after the gay Stuart rumour has finally been cleared up, and that is: "Is Stuart Ginger?" Having not seen them live yet, I have to rely on a few dodgy photos, and judging by the pic in Mojo, he definitely looks it , but could just be the lighting.... Furthermore in the same mag, various 'pop stars' pick 'the best thing they've heard all year' and Ian Broudie says: "I don't know when it came out, I only bought it recently-but the thing thats really struck me this year is Belle & Sebastians CD, IYFS. I'd heard odd tracks, singles here and there , which I'd really liked, and now I've bought it and I think its a fantastic record. I love the whole feel, and the lyrics are incredibly good. Theres a lot of stuff in there, I hear a lot of the Velvet Underground in it in a funny way. Its really weird, because they're obviously a young band, but it is really a quality production." and there you go... susannah xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From simon.gooch at xxx.uk Mon Dec 22 19:28:32 1997 From: simon.gooch at xxx.uk (Simon Gooch) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 19:28:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: Xmas and Books etc and 0161 in the area Message-ID: <1997122219283284572@zetnet.co.uk> Happy Xmas one and all. Right, that over with. Someone asked what books i'd but B&S for Xmas. Answer: dunno been too damn busy to think at work. Oh well. Cheers to the nice young lady (who D&K think may have been Susannah) for spotting me and saying hi. Sorry I was too busy to have more than a couple of brief words. We may have some spare Sunday tickets, but we'll only know on the day as friends of a friend who live in the rainy city are supposed to be coming. But, y'know. We may have a one or two spare (we'll let David and KAtrina know the score). If anyone is truly stuck for a place to stay we may be able to help out. But again, it'll be kinda difficult till Saturday as a) it's not my house and b) I'm going to Norfolk for a few days so I won't be contactable via email. See you in the pub at 5pm in my dufflecoat and flares... Simon -- *** Luv, hugs and kisses from Simon *** (aka Chipper! Fanzine aka Squirrel Fanciers' Quarterly) simon.gooch at zetnet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Mon Dec 22 22:52:26 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 22:52:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hey Macarina! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <349eef26.203323@email.mcmail.com> Hello you, I've had one or two people asking how much it is to get into the aftershow on Saturday cos it came out as gibberish on their email. Actually it's changed, we've slashed our prices. It's one pound and fifty pence. If that comes out as gibberish I suggest you buy a new PC. I am kind of curious to see how many people are going to come. Could you tell me if you are? I think I forgot to mention it's open til 2 to 2.30. And dancing is mandatory cos you know what Hugh will do if you don't. As for the Virgin Wanderers - Saint Lucy eats men like them for breakfast, then spits them out and leaves them sobbing on the doorstep, unable to walk for a week. Some never recover. She is a modern day Myra Breckinridge (or however you spell it) and shows NO mercy. So be warned. Love Tag xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From john at xxx.com Tue Dec 23 00:34:33 1997 From: john at xxx.com (John Warrander) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:34:33 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Hey Macarina! Message-ID: <01BD0F8E.5C82F1A0.john@hpccm800.aus.hp.com> > I've had one or two people asking how much it is to get into the > aftershow on Saturday cos it came out as gibberish on their email. > Actually it's changed, we've slashed our prices. It's one pound and > fifty pence. I would suggest walking in and refusing to pay for the amusement of seeing Julian running around like a demented blue-bottle demanding money off people. > I am kind of curious to see how many people are going to come. Could > you tell me if you are? I'm not 'cause I took my leave of Manchester and sailed for the new world and now I'm utterly dejected as B&S at the Town Hall is probably the most exciting thing to happen in Manchester in years and I'm stuck in some godforsaken vacuum with only the wonders of this modern communications thingy to taunt me with tales of people having fun and meeting up and all trotting off to see B&S merrily together, one big bundle of joy. You didn't really want to know who wasn't going - did you? I'm sorry. Have fun in Manchester you lucky people, Love...John PS As this is my first mail on this B&S list thing, is it customary to introduce yourself? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Tue Dec 23 00:44:58 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 19:44:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: ..I believe in miracles...you sexy thing! Message-ID: <199712230044.TAA06435@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear Sinisteres, Hello hello! How are you all today? I actually got a present for my father today,a Palastrina cd,yes,he will be happy!(I hope) Do you believe in the 'bright white light' on Entertainment Tonight thye're talking about all they're near-death experiences...Jean-Guy at the depanneur used to tell me those stories too! :) I finished my exams,actually after my physical science exam,I got way silly drunk and I asked lovely lovely boy his name...actually I repeatdely asked if it was Nigel (I had this dream..) wow,it gave me courage.And today I bought 'Pioneer Soundtracks' by Jack (I already have it on cd..but on vinyl..it looked so lovely...could not resist) and he gave it to me 5 bucks cheaper! That made my day..I take it I didn't act like a COMPLETE fool then,phew. I really have nothing to say,except is it true Jan 26 is release of new Belle and Sebastain ep? (According to that Seahorses MM) and I'm gonna loooove you till the stars fall from the sky... darling darling, Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gwood at xxx.uk Tue Dec 23 09:01:23 1997 From: gwood at xxx.uk (Gerard Wood) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:01:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Ian Broudie and all that In-Reply-To: <971222182602.n0006809.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: Hi folks, Until now I'm been lurking irresponsibly in the shadows, but Christmas seems such a perfect time to reveal myself to you... I come from that strange land inhabited by Half Man Half Biscuit websites ( http://www.btinternet.com/~hmhb/hmhb.htm, folks) and Fall mailing lists. Some of you already know this to be true. The onset of B&S fandom has been a strange and incredibly slow process, starting with snippets of "Tigermilk" on the radio all those moons ago, culminating in the release of "Lazy Line Painter Jane" and the Oxford gig not so many moons back, when the madness finally took over. Don't know why it took so long, perhaps these things are supposed to take time. Oooh, I'm rambling already. I do that quite a lot. Anyway, I was going to say something slightly relevant: At 6:26 pm +0000 22/12/97, susannah wrote: >Urm, B&S are in Mojo magazine this month. >Furthermore in the same mag, various 'pop stars' pick 'the best thing they've >heard all year' and Ian Broudie says: >"I don't know when it came out, I only bought it recently-but the thing thats >really struck me this year is Belle & Sebastians CD, IYFS. I'd heard odd >tracks, singles here and there , which I'd really liked, and now I've bought >it and I think its a fantastic record. I love the whole feel, and the lyrics >are incredibly good. Theres a lot of stuff in there, I hear a lot of the >Velvet >Underground in it in a funny way. Its really weird, because they're >obviously a >young band, but it is really a quality production." Hopefully this hasn't been mentioned here before - Ian Broudie was on "Live & Kicking" (Saturday morning UK kids TV) a few weeks back, plugging his "Best of..." LP and going through the usual chore of the kids' phone-in. He was asked the same question on there, and full marks to the man, he gave the same reply as above. A few confused kiddies and Zoe Ball not quite knowing to say. Almost as good as the brief 1980 Fall excerpt on "Hit Miss or Maybe" at around the same time... Gez, not as young as he used to be but can still pretend with the best of 'em ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Dec 23 09:15:36 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:15:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: manchester gig transport stuff.... Message-ID: Hi people! gig talk. well, more of a transport TO the gig talk......i'm coming by train to the gig from Preston which probably means I'll be coing to Picadilly. Is there anyody else who's going to be catching a train along that route and would like to meet up? I'm not to keen on being the single girl lost in manchester! :0) I'm sure somebody put something like this up before, whoever it was i did email you back, either you didn't get it or think i am scum, please, could ANYONE Chorley/Preston etc way let me know? Not that I'd start pancing or anything y'know......but it's Belle & seabastian here!!!!! thanks and tealeaves predicting a lovely future I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Tue Dec 23 09:31:20 1997 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 09:31:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: <01bd0f85$86ea2200$LocalHost@dell> ################-A Special Christmas Appeal From jon g.-################## Does anyone feel that they have left someone out in their Christmas present list? Is there a void in your spiritual Christmas feeling? If so, then why not make your contribution by making a Tigermilk tape for someone who would really appreciate it? It's the perfect gift and you know that it will bring a lot of happiness. If you would like to make your donation, please contact jon g. @ jon.g at btinternet.com We're waiting for your email. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk Tue Dec 23 10:55:55 1997 From: J.M.Taylor at xxx.uk (Taylor JM) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:55:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: spare saturday ticket + youth hostel Message-ID: i haven't quite got round to booking yet, but aparently you can get in to the manchester youth hostel at all hours, so cinders can go to the b&s ball. but bring jaffa cakes anyway chris :) i'm gonna be ask to be put in same dorm as other B&S'ites if poss (apparently mostly 4 bed dorms) - search 'youth hostel' from the mailing list web page to find out who is staying there. + i have ONE ticket for Saturday night spare. i haven't got my sunday matinee ticket yet, but will do.... so ermmm i spose e me, i'll check mail tomorrow for last time - otherwise purple jeans long hair + sideys. see you 5pm sat. jim (off to go and meet mayor/ess + sheriff/ess? of london....visiting the ward.....in 15 mins....like there isn't enough to do.....) + thankyou to all who have organised stuff/given useful info. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Tue Dec 23 11:14:59 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 11:14:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sat 27th Message-ID: <199712231114.LAA03224@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> hello, does anyone know if anything is happening before or after the belle and sebastian gig on saturday 27th ? we just need a place to sit and smile before our coach goes in the early hours of the morning. um so if anyone can recommend anywhere id be very grateful to hear from you. thanks and seasonal wishes jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Dec 23 12:26:25 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 12:26:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: sinister: a lemur is for life, not just for Christmas In-Reply-To: <199712230044.TAA06435@Vector.inexpress.net> References: <199712230044.TAA06435@Vector.inexpress.net> Message-ID: <34a5ada7.12407949@email.mcmail.com> Hello brothers and sisters On Tue, 23 Dec 1997 10:34:33 +1000, John Warrender wrote: >I would suggest walking in and refusing to pay for the amusement of >seeing Julian running around like a demented blue-bottle demanding >money off people. The legend of Julian spreads worldwide - it really is quite bizarre. He doesn't know that he's under so much scrutiny cos I'm not in the business of fuelling his already inflated ego (heheheh). Please don't take John up on his piece of advice from the young anarchist's handbook as I'll be on the door too, and demented bluebottles are not part of my act. >I'm not 'cause I took my leave of Manchester and sailed for the new world You're Maurice Gibb aren't you? >and now I'm utterly dejected as B&S at the Town Hall is probably the most >exciting thing to happen in Manchester in years and I'm stuck in some >godforsaken vacuum with only the wonders of this modern communications >thingy to taunt me with tales of people having fun and meeting up and all >trotting off to see B&S merrily together, one big bundle of joy. > >Have fun in Manchester you lucky people, We will. >PS As this is my first mail on this B&S list thing, is it customary to introduce >yourself? I'll introduce John. John is a Leo and wants to travel or work with animals and children. His turn-offs are kangaroos and failed air-conditioning. His turn-ons are football hooliganism, Pizzicato 5 portable record players, and terrifying Greek tourists by rambling drunkenly at them in an incomprehensible Aberdeen accent. Or an incomprehensible Aberdeen Angus, he's not fussed. Don't ask me how I know this. On Mon, 22 Dec 1997 19:44:58 -0500 (EST), Genevieve wrote: >I finished my exams,actually after my physical science exam,I got way silly >drunk and I asked lovely lovely boy his name...actually I repeatdely asked >if it was Nigel (I had this dream..) Can I advise you not to call people Nigel if you want to flatter them? A friend of mine woke up in the middle of the night to hear his girlfriend call him Nigel in her sleep, and he was traumatised for some time. Oh, and Susannah, when you ask 'Is Stuart ginger?', is that literally, or in Cockney rhyming slang. The strawberry blond people on the list are easily hurt, you know. And yes, that does include me. This is probably the last post I'll write to the list before Christmas, so I hope yours are filled with revellry and jollity, wherever and whoever you are, I look forward (I fear this is a major understatement) to seeing lots of you on Saturday and hope you'll all be a-groovin and a-movin at the Star and Garter afterwards. But please don't forget the Baby Jesus. Love, kisses and chestnuts roasting on an open fire, Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Tue Dec 23 13:53:49 1997 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley wilkinson) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:53:49 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Hey Macarina! References: <199712231055.KAA20018@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <349FC26D.1D7B@gil.com.au> John Warrander wrote.... > > I am kind of curious to see how many people are going to come. Could > > you tell me if you are? > I'm not 'cause I took my leave of Manchester and sailed for the new world > and now I'm utterly dejected as B&S at the Town Hall is probably the most > exciting thing to happen in Manchester in years and I'm stuck in some > godforsaken vacuum with only the wonders of this modern communications > thingy to taunt me with tales of people having fun and meeting up and all > trotting off to see B&S merrily together, one big bundle of joy. australia a vacuum ......never! well, sometimes.... ok, quite often. :) cheers, shelley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Tue Dec 23 14:17:48 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 14:17:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sinister: a lemur is for life, not just for Christmas Message-ID: <01BD0FAD.8C93D7A0@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> >I finished my exams,actually after my physical science exam,I got way silly >drunk and I asked lovely lovely boy his name...actually I repeatdely asked >if it was Nigel (I had this dream..) >Can I advise you not to call people Nigel if you want to flatter them? A friend of mine woke up in the middle of the night to hear his girlfriend call him Nigel in her sleep, and he was traumatised for some time. Right....... outside!! In the playground....... now!! (Nigel) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 23 15:06:34 1997 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:06:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: Humbug: bought 'if you're feeling sinister' on friday, went away for the weekend, only to find on my return that one of my housemates had played it, left it by the draining board, and managed to get water over the sleeve. so now it;s all stuck together and i hadn't even read the lyrics. so life's not fair. yours, grumpy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leongmun at xxx.sg Tue Dec 23 15:40:32 1997 From: leongmun at xxx.sg (Leong Mun Wai) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:40:32 +0800 (SST) Subject: Sinister: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi, It's ok, somehow reading the lyrics takes the fun away from listening to Belle & Sebastian. :)LMW On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, A.M. Horne wrote: > Humbug: bought 'if you're feeling sinister' on friday, went away for the > weekend, only to find on my return that one of my housemates had played > it, left it by the draining board, and managed to get water over the > sleeve. so now it;s all stuck together and i hadn't even read the lyrics. > > so life's not fair. > > yours, grumpy > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 23 15:52:34 1997 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:52:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: leong, thanks... but it would have been nice to have the opportunity. yours, (still) grumpy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From itstrue at xxx.net Tue Dec 23 17:53:59 1997 From: itstrue at xxx.net (Reid) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 12:53:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: singing songs for children Message-ID: <349FFAB6.2C45@earthlink.net> Cue fainting in disbelief....all of these songs by B&S that I've never heard! Oh, the tragedy of it all! Were all of those songs on sessions that are being taped and passed around, or what? I suppose that one day, I'll have to get my act together and take someone up on their generous offers of tapes made. I walked past Ben Folds on Columbia street yesterday. He looked like he was in a foul mood, so I didn't say anything, but I found myself desperately wishing that I had a copy of "Tigermilk" that I could offer to tape for him. Tragically, I don't. Have one, that is... I spent the day making a tape of IYFS and the three EP's for a friend, and I hadn't fully appreciated some of the songs (Le Pastie... and String Bean Jean in particular). How does any one band get to be so good? I think I'm dreaming... ~Reid -- "If the editors of the Manhattan Argus see fit to publish the rantings of a disordered mind, perhaps they will see fit to publish this letter!" J. Reid Dossinger (Chapel Hill, NC) itstrue at earthlink.net or (alternate) itstrue at mailcity.com AUTOFAC reviews: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/8002 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Tue Dec 23 19:31:04 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:31:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: daddylonglegs (non b+s) Message-ID: <199712231930.TAA05378@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> daddy o long legs man. ------------------------------- my ceiling is covered with dead things bits of spider, fly and wasp. i stand on my bed and squash them with a book when i get cross. on my wall some wasps are mounted with red paint pretending to be blood green to be the juice they are up there as a warning 'i will tolerate no abuse' the other day a daddy long legs was dancing round my light i missed with a rubber band it began to show some fight. when chasing a moving foe here's a tip i think you should know grab a can of bodyspray to keep the insect pest at bay. in my haste i picked up 'hair in a can' got it in the corner and pressed down firm and gave the longlegs a hendrix perm - purple haze and out of sight it zipped through the window and into the night. jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Tue Dec 23 19:31:04 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 19:31:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: naked people (non b+s) Message-ID: <199712231930.TAA05373@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> there's naked people in studio nine. ------------------------------------------------ there's naked people in studio nine taking photos of each others bodies in the dark. there's naked people standing in a line with a video camera outside im wishing id taken part. oh my heart and i did offer to be a friend or clean the lens or hold their clothes as they danced with hands up high and make up on - but now theyre gone and they're naked. im just a kid in jeans and a jumper, shoes and underwear and the girls dont care because when you're nude in studio nine there are no worries or time. everything is just fine. jon merry xmas everyone ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Tue Dec 23 20:27:25 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:27:25 EST Subject: Sinister: Upset about Sessions Message-ID: <9056ae7d.34a01eaf@aol.com> Found this on another list: >The television broadcast of B&S has been cancelled because they didn't play very well...to say the least. I'm not sure if it was the decision of the band, PBS, the producers or all three. Matthew Kaplan< Anyone heard anything about this? Do we need to send mass mailings to PBS insisting they air the session? I mean, it's all I want for Christmas!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Seu05 at xxx.com Tue Dec 23 20:50:08 1997 From: Seu05 at xxx.com (Seu05) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 15:50:08 EST Subject: Sinister: sightings and non-sightings Message-ID: <1fb1ef61.34a02402@aol.com> I just got some bad news for all US listers, according to the appropiate website the sessions TV programme on saturday will NOT have B&S this week. You can check for yourselves (I haven't yet) at http://www.sessionsatwest54th.com This info comes from a friend who was at the taping and will send me a copy when it appears. I'll let Jarrett introduce himself when he appears on the list soon. Meanwhile, back in Blighty, John Peel is doing the biz on the radio. Great stuff, but haven't heard any B&S yet (he's up to number 24 in the festive 31). Anyway, before Peel, Newsbeat ran a feature about Scotland wanting its own pop charts. The idea is that i will give more exposure and prominence to Scottish bands. B&S were namechecked by a punter outside HMV on Argyle Street, and Monica's bit in Lazy Line could be heard as backing music. Graham Kemp from Urusei Yatsura was interviewed for it, and he basically doesn't think it will do much good for anyone. Other web B&S sightings, www.sirendisc.com lists jan 25 as the streetdate for Modern Rock Song. If we do get an accompaning tour, my vote is for Brighton, quite a lovely town, and we've all taken B&S to our hearts. Enjoy Christmas and the weekend, and drinking too much at the meet before hand can sightly impare your enjoyment of B&S at the gig afterwards, as some of us found out in Oxford. Anyone taping the gigs? Tape tree please! Alex ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From john at xxx.com Tue Dec 23 23:23:59 1997 From: john at xxx.com (John Warrander) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 09:23:59 +1000 Subject: Sinister: They're Dancing In The Aisles In Brisbane Message-ID: <01BD104D.AB75C430.john@hpccm800.aus.hp.com> Oh yes, Brisbane's local FM radio station's "UK" show were playing the first half of their top 20 tracks of the year on Monday night and what should pop-up but "Dog On Wheels" no less. Thus proving that Brisbane is in fact the hippest town in the Southern Hemisphere. That Tag bloke's a bit of a card. Well I've heard all about his fantasies involving Lee Hazlewood's moustache, Romanian gymnast sensation Nadia Comeneci and a herd of reindeer in Lappland. He thinks it's suave? I think it's sick. Love and yuletide merriment to you all, John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Dec 23 23:56:57 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:56:57 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: sightings and non-sightings In-Reply-To: <1fb1ef61.34a02402@aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Seu05 wrote: > Meanwhile, back in Blighty, John Peel is doing the biz on the radio. Great > stuff, but haven't heard any B&S yet (he's up to number 24 in the festive 31). Peel *did* do the business - B&S came in at something like numbers 13 and 5 - the latter with Lazy Line, but I bet I got the numbers wrong. Cornershop's "Brimful of Asha" was no.1, nice choice especially for wee Asha, Linda's cousin. Everyone needs a bosom for a pillow. HoneyDew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjouan at xxx.com Wed Dec 24 00:03:12 1997 From: mjouan at xxx.com (Michelle Jouan) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 16:03:12 -0800 Subject: Sinister: sessions at west 54th Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971224000312.006b5b84@mailbox.previewtravel.com> i went onto the website and there is not a single mention of belle and sebastian. it says that this week there will be an "encore performance" of k.d. lang/jane siberry. :'( michelle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Dec 24 01:15:18 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 01:15:18 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Beat Patrol tapes Message-ID: I'm getting LOADS of requests for tapes and I'm stacking them up - I'm going out and I may be some time. When I start sending them out could I ask pretty please for other people to offer to do second generation dubs for others? But it'll be New Year before I get started. Chris meanwhile is I'm sure being asked for lots too. Meanwhile I will have a very limited no. of tapes with me for the Saturday concert and pub before - there's a strict list of people who might be there but if you want one and ask me I may have at least a few going - bring a tape to swap with me with something that I *have* to hear but probably haven't... ANYTHING. By the way I've heard the Spice Girls LP already and the DJ Shadow remixes. Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Wed Dec 24 04:16:44 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Tue, 23 Dec 1997 23:16:44 EST Subject: Sinister: Upset about Sessions: WAIT!! Message-ID: In a message dated 97-12-23 15:35:39 EST, you write: > >The television broadcast of B&S has been cancelled because they didn't play > very well...to say the least. I'm not sure if it was the decision of the > band, PBS, the producers or all three. > Matthew Kaplan< > > Anyone heard anything about this? Do we need to send mass mailings to PBS > insisting they air the session? I mean, it's all I want for Christmas!! > Okay -- I heard that rumor last week from someone, who heard it from a record distributor. I was talking to the aforementioned Matthew Kaplan last Thursday night in NYC and, since we were both at the taping, I repeated it to him, noting that it was just a rumor and that the B&S list had said it would air on the 27th. The next day I got an e-mail from Chris Douridas who hosts the show, which I posted to this list, and it said he "thought" the show would air in February. Then I got an e-mail from someone on the list who said Karen David told him/her that the segment would air in January. Do you suppose they're trying to get everyone to watch every week in order to boost their ratings? And, that will teach me to repeat cheap gossip, especially to lawyers! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Dec 24 11:38:44 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 11:38:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the return of scully... References: Message-ID: <34A0F444.B60A6D54@mail.zynet.co.uk> hi folks... totally unrelated to B&S, and nothing at all to do with music, BUT, joyous of all joyous news: our cat has been returned! regular listeners will recall me being very sad a couple of moths ago because our cat, scully, had gone missing... well the good news is that he is now safely returned after spending those long weeks trapped in a house literally just behind ours! the house was being refurbished and they knew there was a cat there because they kept finding paw marks in the paintwork, but they couldn't find it, let alone catch it. so last night they got the RSPCA to lay a trap, and hey presto! this morning there was our scully! a lot skinnier, but otherwise none the worse for wear. so there you go... all is happy on this christmas eve. wiping a tear of joy from their eyes, the duke and duchess. PS: we DJed a party last night and we DID play three B&S songs, and very nice they sounded too :-) -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From GUSRAT at xxx.com Wed Dec 24 13:28:02 1997 From: GUSRAT at xxx.com (GUSRAT) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 08:28:02 EST Subject: Sinister: Upset about Sessions: ~chilll~ Message-ID: <128ca3b6.34a10de5@aol.com> It twas I who received the email from Karen David. She told me that Sessions would be airing in January. Not trying to be a gear in the rumor mill here, kids... Just tellin' all I know. Merry Kwanza! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Wed Dec 24 17:15:39 1997 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (u01cjtc) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:15:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Merry Christmas Everybody Message-ID: Despite being an atheist, I love christmas and as a christmas pressie to you all I have put a wav of B&S singing we wish you a merry christmas on beat patrol on sunday onto my website, which is actually all that's on there. You can find it at http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~zulu/ Hope you all enjoy the manchester gigs, my mummy wouldn't let me go on my own as I am only 18 years old. Oh yeh, she thinks B&S sound like donovan, any comments? Colin P.S. You are all quite welcome to park in my street whenever you like. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Wed Dec 24 17:48:46 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 17:48:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: seasonal things Message-ID: <199712241812.SAA25945@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> [hee hee cunning - this way i'll recieve at least one goodwill message .. ..um ok it will be from me but.. ] to everyone on the list have a happy xmas and a belle sebastian fueled new year. to everyone going to the sat manchester gig - see you there. bye bye jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Dec 24 18:22:24 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 18:22:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: gigonsatgigonsatgigonSAT!!!!!!!! Message-ID: Hi! just to let you know that I, (sarah, star, however you know me i have any aliases.....) will be the one at the gig on Sat with a star wand! Um, thats it but not enough people are posting to the list anyway so I'll take up some time here. As for a christmas chat i don't think i'll be *allowed* near the computer so please forgive me if i don't join you i'd love to'n'all but..... :) And Tag and aftershow people, i've figured out my transport times and have figured out I can get to the aftershow! yayaaaayaaay! etc. ahem. anyway. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Dec 24 18:53:44 1997 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 18:53:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Christmas Message-ID: <01bd109d$4254b740$LocalHost@dell> Well, as it seems to be the new fashion, I might as well. Merry Christmas, a cosmic Manchester and a Happy New Year. Me and bethey are going to Manchester on Sunday matinee. I will have tinsel lined shoulders and bethey will be small. We will be the two youngsters in amongst all the old crooners. There you go. See you? MC + HNY again jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From patacsil at xxx.edu Wed Dec 24 19:59:07 1997 From: patacsil at xxx.edu (Dominic N. Republic) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 11:59:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <01bd109d$4254b740$LocalHost@dell> Message-ID: i am brand spankin' new on this list and i would just like to say hello and merry chritmas. oh...does anyone know if and when b&s are planning on touring the states anytime soon? dominic n. republic(!) www-scf.usc.edu/~patacsil he tries so hard to please www-ucs.usc.edu/~dominicp he's just so keen for you to listen but no one's listening... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alaning at xxx.fr Wed Dec 24 20:23:28 1997 From: alaning at xxx.fr (Alan) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 21:23:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: that blasted irc! Message-ID: <199712242037.VAA23641@mail2.isdnet.net> hello, i've tried to get into some sort of chat room or whatever...i've been in a chat room called #Sinister but there's no bugger there...which bleedin' irc server do you lot go through???? help!! alan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oasis at xxx.au Wed Dec 24 23:21:52 1997 From: oasis at xxx.au (Pete) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 10:21:52 +1100 Subject: Sinister: Seasons Greetings Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19971225102152.007a2100@magna.com.au> Hi I would like to wish each and every onbe of you a happy Tiawanese National Constitution Day Cheers Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Thu Dec 25 04:25:40 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Wed, 24 Dec 1997 23:25:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I _DO_ always cry at endings Message-ID: <34A1E044.DD3@interaccess.com> Hi kids, Gee, these christmas movies always get me. I'm such a sap. Here's my gift to you: Listen to The Able Tasmans. Especially _Hey Spinner!_ and _Somebody Ate My Planet_. I really think you'll enjoy them. They were from New Zealand and are on Flying Nun records. MC Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jkral at xxx.net Thu Dec 25 06:21:59 1997 From: jkral at xxx.net (jaysen kralovetz) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 00:21:59 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Us fun-loving Americans Message-ID: <199712250621.WAA07358@mailtod-112.bryant.webtv.net> So... Am I the only American Belle & Sebastian fan or what? Maybe they're not Oasis-ish enough for our grunge-loving music consumers...it's so very sad. Please tell me I am not alone. Jaysen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Dec 25 11:02:17 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 11:02:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: xmas and multiple mails Message-ID: <34A23D38.7D545A96@totalweb.co.uk> firstly we wish everyone a very happy christmas and merry new year, we hope you have a good one and have enjoyed having you all round over the past year, we love you all, secondly, the return of the multiple mail gremlin, this is probably because of the same thing as last time, and may require whoever it is with the dodgy mail program (was it microsoft last time?) to unsubscribe. but in the mean time, i'm sure paul will do his best over the next few days to kill the gremlin love and pop david and katrina @ the fanclub and jeepster records -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Thu Dec 25 11:13:27 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 11:13:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: duke and duchess' christmas message References: <199712242037.VAA23641@mail2.isdnet.net> Message-ID: <34A23FD7.3F925305@mail.zynet.co.uk> well it's been a funny old year and no mistake... anyway, here we are on christmas morning, with scully happily preched on the duchess' knee, 'willy wonka' on the tv and a glass of champagne in the hand. well, sat beside the modem to be honest.... ... very nice it is too. festive felicitations to you all. whatever... anyone who's faintly interested in reading what i've made of the year, music wise, is advised to point a browser window at the tangents web site and go to the new additions... saddly for you lot maybe i've refused to go into any further depth about B&S, but i thought to do so might be a little silly... instead i figured i'd devote a little more space to all the other things that have turned me on and up over the past twelve months. So you know, go check it out... you know it makes sense. (but posted below just for ease are the lists of albums and singles for your delight...) hopefully see some of you on sunday! the duchess will be the one who looks like Grace Kelly... possibly. more festive felicitations, the duke and duchess. xx. These lists are listed in no particular order 12 Albums: The Apartments: Apart (Hot) Grant McLennan: In Your Bright ray (Beggars Banquet) Liquid Liquid: Liquid Liquid (Mo Wax) Various: Platinum Breaks (Metalheadz) Various: Torque (No-U-Turn) Various: Grooverider presents the Prototype Years (Prototype) Broadcast: Work and Non Work (Warp) Adventures In Stereo: Adventures In Stereo (Creeping Bent) The Sea and Cake: The Fawn (Thrill Jockey) To Rococo Rot: Veiculo (City Slang) Mogwai: Mogwai Young Team (Chemikal Underground) Windsor For The Derby : Minnie Greutzfeldt (Trance) 12 Singles / Eps: I’ve allowed only one entry per artist here check the main reviews for more singles. Arab Strap: The Girls Of Summer (Chemikal Underground) Belle And Sebastian: Dog On Wheels (Jeepster) Optical: Moving 808s / High Tek Dreams (Prototype) Matrix: Double Vision / Sedation (Metro) Thunder: Seven (Thunder) Decoder: Fog (Hard Leaders) Dillinja: Acid Trax (Pain) Appliance: Organised Sound (Surveillance) To Rococo Rot: Paris 25 Freon: Lecktroshock (Scandinavia) Salaryman: Voids and Superclusters remix (City Slang) Le Hammond Inferno: East of Suez (Pool) -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Dec 25 11:31:08 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 11:31:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: xmas and multiple mails References: <34A23D38.7D545A96@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <34A243FC.2A964AF@totalweb.co.uk> David & Katrina wrote: > firstly we wish everyone a very happy christmas and merry new year, > we hope you have a good one and have enjoyed having you all round over > the past year, we love you all, > and i second that motion ... > secondly, the return of the multiple mail gremlin, this is probably > because of the same thing as last time, and may require whoever it is > with the dodgy mail program (was it microsoft last time?) to > unsubscribe. but in the mean time, i'm sure paul will do his best over > the next few days to kill the gremlin ok, to all of you who were wondering what the hell poor lovely pressie deprived david was going on about with these multiple mails, he's being silly. i asked him to collect my jeepster mail, and therefore he got double sinister post in our sinister box ... ... too confusing for him before he's had the first chocolate of the morning! We're off for Xmas lunch (wish i was at home with my Mummy & Daddy tho', they're all having lots of fun!) at david's mums now, so see you on IRC later on this arvo. MERRY XMAS, and we'll see most of you this weekend. Lotsa love, Katrina & silly-boy David. -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Dec 25 17:34:18 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 17:34:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm a sad bastard....i hope some other people are too.... Message-ID: HEY! i can be sad JUST as well as any of you others! So i have taken a quick time out from the loving bosom of my family, presnets and crap TV to tell you all you Sinister-ians that its been cool knowing the lot of youse and MERRY CHRISTAMS!!! see some of you on Sat and I will be the one with the star wand still unsure of outfit. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rob at xxx.uk Thu Dec 25 20:06:48 1997 From: rob at xxx.uk (rrb1) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 97 20:06:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: swap sat. for sun. Message-ID: <883079848.102753.0@rrb1.demon.co.uk> I suppose this is a bit late but does anyone want to swap a saturday ticket for a sunday evening ticket (I have a spare sunday ticket) and I thought i could come and see the saturday show aswell. thanks ROB ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Fri Dec 26 03:37:36 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 22:37:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: joy to the world Message-ID: <199712260337.WAA17636@Vector.inexpress.net> Merry Christmas everyone,I think you're all so lovely! *sniff sniff* Isn't O Holy Night a beautiful Christmas song...it's my favourite.... >Date: Thu, 25 Dec 1997 00:21:59 -0600 >From: jkral at xxx.net (jaysen kralovetz) >Subject: Sinister: Us fun-loving Americans > >So... >Am I the only American Belle & Sebastian fan or what? Maybe they're not >Oasis-ish enough for our grunge-loving music consumers...it's so very >sad. Please tell me I am not alone. > >Jaysen. ah no non dear,you're not! But take special joy that it can be you're special secret then,but think about size..there ARE Belle and Sebastian fans out there,you are not alone..but America is much more vast and the fans that are there are separated by distance... but I admit sometimes it's hard to find a happy medium,I find a lot of American fans either are upset there are NO fans or that their once tiny sweet band is EVERYWHERE and suddenly they have to share it with all... You're not alone...;) Merry Christmas and God bless Love, Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jlphilli at xxx.edu Fri Dec 26 07:36:27 1997 From: jlphilli at xxx.edu (Jennifer Phillips-Bacher) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 01:36:27 -0600 Subject: Sinister: boxing day greetings Message-ID: <199712260737.BAA73564@mail1.doit.wisc.edu> Hi all! Just throwing my first Hello into the B & S ring. I've been lurking for about 3 weeks now, living vicariously through the list, imagining myself at the Manchester gigs. Soon the shows will be over, and I will be left without my daily dose of meet-up plans and travel arrangements. I implore those who will attend to talk about the gigs for at least 3 more weeks....i must complete the picture in my head. Anyway....here's my latest B & S news. I was in my hometown for christmas and i went out with a friend from high school who now lives in NYC. One of the first things she said to me when she got in my car was "You _must_ hear Belle and Sebastian". Now, I've not seen the girl for over 2 years. Not a Hello, How Are You...none of the formalities that one usually goes through in a reunion situation. Without blinking, i reached under my seat, grabbed a cassette and casually inserted it into the tape deck. The glorious sounds of IYFS emanated from my speakers....and all was well. My friend and i were reacquainted. Um, I guess that's the end of the story. Okay. Bye! Jennifer ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oasis at xxx.au Fri Dec 26 09:03:30 1997 From: oasis at xxx.au (Pete) Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 20:03:30 +1100 Subject: Sinister: boxing day greetings In-Reply-To: <199712260737.BAA73564@mail1.doit.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19971226200330.007b03c0@magna.com.au> I would love to hear about the Manchester gigs as well, Pete :) Australia > >Just throwing my first Hello into the B & S ring. I've been lurking for >about 3 weeks now, living vicariously through the list, imagining myself at >the Manchester gigs. Soon the shows will be over, and I will be left >without my daily dose of meet-up plans and travel arrangements. I implore >those who will attend to talk about the gigs for at least 3 more weeks....i >must complete the picture in my head. > >Anyway....here's my latest B & S news. I was in my hometown for christmas >and i went out with a friend from high school who now lives in NYC. One of >the first things she said to me when she got in my car was "You _must_ hear >Belle and Sebastian". Now, I've not seen the girl for over 2 years. Not a >Hello, How Are You...none of the formalities that one usually goes through >in a reunion situation. Without blinking, i reached under my seat, grabbed >a cassette and casually inserted it into the tape deck. The glorious sounds >of IYFS emanated from my speakers....and all was well. My friend and i were >reacquainted. Um, I guess that's the end of the story. > >Okay. Bye! >Jennifer > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Sat Dec 27 12:02:46 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 12:02:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Christmas Present Message-ID: <199712271138.LAA23272@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> So there I am. I'm at home in Oxford wrapping up my presents for my cousins who I was going to see on Boxing day. We've never been really really close but you know: they are family. And I'm quite close to one of them who has had a hard time of late with mental illness and other things you wouldn't wish on a charming girl of 24. I'd got her some candles (ooh -Mr Originality....) and I was listening to Sinister while wrapping up her stuff. And I was thinking.... "This is an awful gift... but this is fantastic music...I love this album....so would she....she'd better have it." So I stopped wrapping the candles , took my CD out of the machine, placed it in the battered box and wrapped that up instead. Yesterday we went round to her parents house. She wanted to play it immeadiately so we stuck it on. 30 seconds of "The Stars of Track and Field" was all it took before she looked at me; "I love it....". Happy Christmas See any matinee people on Sunday, hope the other gigs are wonderful. xxxx john PS - Would anyone in the London area like a posh candle...? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From J.N.Davies at xxx.uk Sat Dec 27 18:16:05 1997 From: J.N.Davies at xxx.uk (Jon Davies) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 18:16:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Record Collector Message-ID: Apologies if someone's already posted this...but I thought people might be interested to see that this months issue of record collector mgazine list original vinyl copies of tigermilk as being worth a cool 125 of our glorious uk pounds...they say quality is reassuringly expensive don't they...:) Jon --------------------------------------------- Jon Davies - Stoat at Coolsite.net http://www.student.brad.ac.uk/jndavies ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Oxyura12 at xxx.com Sat Dec 27 20:41:22 1997 From: Oxyura12 at xxx.com (Oxyura12) Date: Sat, 27 Dec 1997 15:41:22 EST Subject: Sinister: hello--help me Message-ID: List-people, I am here deep in very rural and very quiet america, and just having a dickens of a time finding any of the b-n-s's small ep's, and the record store clerks are of no help either-- lazy and dazed from all the roaring hours of prodigy and mary manson. Sad. Regardless, if you could direct me to a web site or something so I could buy the small ep's, I could be done with haunting these moody young men and women, and I'd be much obliged. Rocky ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iwh at xxx.com Sat Dec 27 22:52:44 1997 From: iwh at xxx.com (Ian W Halliday) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 11:52:44 +1300 Subject: Sinister: Daily Telegraph Message-ID: <34A586BC.5D50@pacific-ocean.com> In the review of the year, James Delingpole of the Daily Telegraph (London) wrote... Belle and Sebastian If You're Feeling Sinister (Jeepster). Like the black-and-white Seventies children's TV programme after which they are named, Scotland's Belle and Sebastian have become a huge cult among knowing twenty- and thirtysomethings. With its shy vocals, pretty melodies, quirky, affecting lyrics and deceptively amateurish air, this is the perfect Sunday morning record. It will also guarantee your CD collection instant credibility. -- So there we have it. Happy New Year to you all (even you Paul) Ian -- +--------------------------------------------------------+ | Visit my home pages at http://members.tripod.com/~iwh/ | | Travel pages http://jump.to/vanuatu | | Children's books | | http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/7439/ | +--------------------------------------------------------+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Dec 28 16:52:55 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 16:52:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: gig and stuff! Message-ID: hi everyone! just gotta say to all the lovely people i met on Sat it was great to meet you! i wish i could have stayed at the aftershow, i was so guted i had to leave :((.....but it was still a brilliant gig! And i want to know *you* stuart david *you* had been drinking before hand. i don't know, forgetting to play your part to Dylan in the Movies..... And just to let all the other girls and boys know that i think i will have to marry Stuart M. Its his own fault for being such a sweetie. oh well, i;ll write more later, just gotta say it was absolutley brillant. tell me what happened at the aftershow....please! i really wish i culdv'e been there.....oh and if i told anyone on the list just to fuck off out of my way, i'm very sorry *ashamed* but i was pissed off then. sorry. oh well, love you all......can't wait for next time! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From GntlTuesdy at xxx.com Sun Dec 28 17:27:31 1997 From: GntlTuesdy at xxx.com (GntlTuesdy) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 12:27:31 EST Subject: Sinister: new kid's plea Message-ID: <23b90a72.34a68c05@aol.com> Hey i just subscribed to this Sinister list. My name is neal and i'm a student in Philadelphia, PA. and I was wondering if someone REALLY REALLY nice could help me out. Of course i'm searching for "TIgermilk." Well, not the lp, just a dub. Is there anybody out there who would be willing to dub me a pretty good sounding version of this rare gem? If so, please email me and i'll give you my address! Thanks alot! neal ps did that Belle and Sebastian perfomance ever air on PBS? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Sun Dec 28 18:58:06 1997 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 18:58:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Find the selfish Theif! In-Reply-To: <34A586BC.5D50@pacific-ocean.com> Message-ID: Dear David and Katrina, I hope you will find the thief that broken into your room cos hes the one who cause US not to get the mugs and some of the Belle/Sebastian items. Anyway, it was nice meeting at the gig. Cheers D A N I E L O O .... perhaps the only chinese in the gig! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Sun Dec 28 22:30:07 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 22:30:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Matinee Idols - Manchester Sunday afternoon review Message-ID: <199712282205.WAA27884@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> I've just got back from my day trip to Manchester so here's one boy's opinion of the gig for those who couldn't be there. If you're too busy to read the fascinating scene-setting stuff scroll down till you see ******THE GIG*****. Got the train to Manchester from London first thing in the morning. It was still dark when I left home and the sky was like a gigantic Scottish flag: Bluey/Purple with a perfect white saltire of intersecting vapour trails. A good omen I thought (or another bloody ad. for the Halifax Building Society). I'll spare the details of the rail travel and say that I arrived outside Manchester town hall in good time and joined the queue. It's an amazing building and as I waited to get in I was able to learn that it was built in 1877 in the Victorian Gothic style (It must have been hell to be a chisel in them days).Another plaque told me that Manchester was the world's first nuclear free zone. So an entertaining and informative day it was. Once on the inside, people were handing out Ice Cream which wasn't exactly what I most wanted but it was given with love so only a churl would refuse.(Was it you Katrina handing it out I didn't realise it might have been you till later or i'd have said hello) Anyhow the ground floor reminded me of the video to Wannabe - got the picture? Upstairs the band were going to be playing in the big hall. This was an amazing lofty room with coats of arms painted on the ceiling and murals on the wall depicting great scenes from Manchester's history: the Baptism of St. Edwin, the expulsion of the Danes (shame they forgot Schmeichal) etc. What with the massic pipe organ at the back (I wonder if Chris had a go) it was just like a Cathedral. ***************************************THE GIG**************************************** This would may have accounted for the most amazing thing about this afternoon; the sound quality. I've never been to a gig where the music was so beautifully crisp. The strings, the guitars, the keyboards, the drums, the Stylophone and assorted other instruments were all so clear and sounded absolutely beautifull. And atop this all was Stuart's voice which was faint or fanfare-like as needs required. Every song was the best I've ever heard it done I thought (although perhaps they could have upped the keyboards in Tigermilk - just to make it swing even more. If you've not heard it then it's one to look out for). At times I felt it was more like a recital than a gig, the music just shone out there. This was especially true on slower songs like Beautiful. Stuart started gently on his own and then the moment when the rest joined in was quite lovely because everything was so clear. Given the atmosphere I was sorry not to hear the State I am In which I reckon would have been sublime. But they made up for that in my books by playing Expectations which I hadn't heard live before. The atmosphere was very relaxed so the usual gaps between songs didn't matter, and there were a few line fluffs but Stevie did his best as prompt to Mr. Murdoch . The stage was U shaped with some of the crowd inside the U and the rest above and below if you see what I mean. The band were on the two vertical arms as it were. Being in the middle was a bit like being at Wimbledon to start with, heads twisting left and right to catch all the action. The bottom bit of the U was a handy gangway between the two stages so that people could change sides to get at the required instruments. However I thought it was a chance missed to have somebody up there doing interpretive dances - I'm volunteering. Other highlights included Stevie carefully explaing the chords to Track and Field to Stuart before starting, all the trumpet bits, Sarah's Stylophone break on Mayfly which was really clear this time, Isobel's sparkly dress (ooh bloomin 'eck), momentary disaster when Stuart knocked over his music stand and lost the words/chords he had carefully arranged, grooving to Tigermilk and many more. Above it was the sound though, so so beautiful. All in all it was a great success I thought. So as Harry Hill would say "Afternoon pop concerts by Belle and Sebastian - more please". And as a non-smoking non-drinker it was quite wonderful to see my favourite band in a non-smoking venue. Oh joy. Sorry not to meet more Listees. I met David when I got a T-shirt and hello to Jim, Paul, Stuart and Julia. I'm no longer a ferris wheel virgin. Right - I'm off to make some tea in my new Belle and Sebastian mug! :) Have a very Happy New Year, everyone. xxx john ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Mon Dec 29 01:03:35 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 01:03:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: aftershow Message-ID: <199712290103.BAA21147@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > oh well, i;ll write more later, just gotta say it was absolutley > brillant. tell me what happened at the aftershow....please! la la la i went. and spent my money honey on the dance in the room above the pub but soon it got very packed and after my shimmy to 'brim full of asha' and '..back off a lorry' by demin we left... well went downstairs. now- we were going to collect our bags and jackets and things but we over heard that '2 more taxis were yet to arrive' coyly we waited and lo - enter half of arab strab and stevie and hmm the drummer... whathisname.. or someone so we just hung around the bar - the landlord said he was only going to serve the band (it was late and they'd locked the doors) i said i was part of the band - the shoe shine boy - but well i didnt want another drink anyway. we waited around the pool table . i almost followed stevie into the toilets but was stopped. on the verge of obsession. ''just give me your camera, i'll corner him in the toilets '' ''what ?!'' ''he's just gone into the toilet - alone ..'' ''no no no, where will it all end ? you'll thank me one day.. '' ''not bloody likely..'' i chickened out anyway.. it was good though - everyone upstairs was waiting for the band to arrive and just downstairs some of them did. um we tried to look interesting - so someone would talk to us katrina was looking for david.. it was getting quite late so we left in search of the coach station and then it was bye bye manchester ... byee .jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the.spod at xxx.com Mon Dec 29 02:44:27 1997 From: the.spod at xxx.com (Daniel Smith) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 02:44:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: aftershow...aftermath Message-ID: <01bd1403$c16326c0$581642c2@mbge5dss.mcc.ac.uk> Dear Listees Well after three triumphant shows (of which i only saw two ) i have to say WOW, a superb performance ( cellos aside :) ) and being a B&S virgin before i see why everyone raves about seeing them live. sorry just got in and had to write something though its not really very inspiring is it?? the spod P.S. I think the musical chairs is a theme more bands should adopt.The music stops and it's find a new instument to play you could call it "Musical Instruments" hehehehehehehe......ahem ......sorry -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jon.g at xxx.com Mon Dec 29 08:40:30 1997 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 08:40:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Message-ID: <01bd1435$6b5819c0$LocalHost@dell> Send you experiences/stories/ink polaroids to jon.g at btinternet.com and we will make an online scrapbook at http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ Please indicate whether you want your email address prited in the scrapbook or not Thank-you jon g. and bethey the youngest at the manchester matinee jon.g at btinternet.com http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From MRissb7989 at xxx.com Mon Dec 29 10:53:57 1997 From: MRissb7989 at xxx.com (MRissb7989) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 05:53:57 EST Subject: Sinister: Manchester! Message-ID: <5c9ad4d0.34a78147@aol.com> Well no doubt the whole world and his dog will be writing to the list after what was THE weekend of 1997 (not to mention the rest of my life!) but I’m going to tell you all about it anyway... I started by meeting fellow listees Julia, Paul and Sarah (Mad!) at Piccadilly Station, the first time I’d actually met people from Cyber space before....all of them normal, with the possible exception of Sarah..... Stopping via the rather ace Manchester Youth Hostel, with Jim swelling our numbers, we pressed on to the Square Albert, and the drinking began in earnest, as fellow devotees began to arrive in dribs and drabs.....hellos to Suart (World’s Tallest Man), Neil, Ali, Pamela, Paul, Tag, Soozy and all the rest of you beautiful people. Well, the gigs started well on the Saturday and just got better and better...The Town Hall was a fantastically ornate setting, and the band couldn’t have been more superb. I was privileged to see all three gigs, and by the time Sunday night came I was in a state of absolute bliss....highlights for me were “Dylan” on the Sunday night, LLPJ in the afternoon, Stevie’s guitar playing throughout (what a COOL bastard), Isobel’s spangly dresses, the effortless interchanging of instruments between the members, the aftershow, the ferris wheel, and, well I could go on in a similar vein for days! I’d just like to say thanks to everyone who made the weekend so memorable (esp Jim, Paul and Julia) and I hope to see everybody again at future gigs, in the chat room and on the list etc etc. Right, now for some sleep! Martin (aka Risso) XXXXXXXXXXXX ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Mon Dec 29 19:02:46 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 19:02:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT Message-ID: <34A7F3D6.EFF1172@totalweb.co.uk> well, most of you now know this due to meeting us, but this is more a press statement type thing just to let you all know what happened and what's happening. on the friday night (day before the gig), we parked our hired van in our hotel carpark in salford, manchester. we thought all was well and went to bed peacefully. we woke at about 3:30 by some weird noise, but the van was still there and bed beckoned. the next day at breakfast stuart david came over and pointed out that there appeared to be a box of shirts or something outside the rear of our van... we went over and discovered the mess. the rear window had been smashed to non-existance and every piece of merchandise was missing - except about 2 1/2 boxes of mugs. what we've had stolen is: the last of the bus design shirts, both green/yellow and brown/orange designs the cartoon design shirts, the white, blue and green designs a lot of mugs cd's of every release (except dog on wheels which we'd sold out of) enamel badges ink polaroids (hundreds of 'em) what we need to ask is that of anyone lives in manchester and sees any of this, could you please inform PC Aspey at Greater Manchester Police, or if anyone sees any merchandise appear in any publications (UK or worldwide) or any shops, again please call the police. the only exception is that a few shops in Glasgow do have the cartoon shirts, but everything else is exclusive to us, if it's seen then it must be part of the stolen loot. we'd also appreciate it if you could also inform us so we know what's going on -- the other part of this press release is linked to the theft. because of the amount of stock we've lost and the time it will take to produce a basic stock again we are temporarily unable to supply orders via mail-order or the Internet, as such our merchandise page will be removed until we have new stock. we hope this is no later than the beginning of Feb, but this is also around the soonest it will be. we are able to honour a few of the smaller orders that were submitted before the theft. we will notify everyone personally after the 7th Jan to let you know if your order will be honoured (we're taking a well deserved holiday to Glasgow and won't be able to help before the 7th). -- apart from that, the gigs were heaven and the people we met were lovely. it's a shame our weekend was tainted so, but sometimes that's just the way it goes. we'll speak to you all when we get back from Glasgow. with love david and katrina @ the fanclub -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sallydoll at xxx.net Mon Dec 29 20:04:38 1997 From: sallydoll at xxx.net (Acrylica) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 20:04:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sunday's gig (not a very interesting title, huh?) Message-ID: <199712292122.VAA19509@boober.lineone.net> Only my second posting this; I'm a great deal more prolific on the Pulp list, and I wrote this for it, but now my fingers are so tired that I thought I'd be lazy and put a copy on here too. So, if you're on Lipgloss just delete this! **************************************************************************** ************* Hello little mice. Yesterday I went to the B&S gig - it was both one of the best and the worst days of my life. And here's why: GOOD VERSION: Had a nice hotel room; saw some real live trams; made meself a new lipstick by putting Lipcote on top of my new purple glitter gel; backcombed hair and it went nice and big; tiara didn't fall off once; hotel near to venue; someone who looked like they should be in Suede next to me (I didn't have the courage to ask, but he was more like an amalgamation of all the members); lovely venue and stage setup (like a big "E" - as in the letter - with people all around - like how alveoli have a greater surface area 'cos they're folded - so more people could see) and a brilliant gig. I had surely the best place there - I was at the very front, just in front of Stevie (unfortunately someone else nicked off with the setlist when I was reaching for it). The band were terrific (after a bit of trouble with 'bel's cello - "och, it just dunt sound right!", "that cello needs a doctor!", "no, that cello needs a priest!"), various members pointing at my big hair before they started; lovely atmosphere; no security guards or barriers, so I was just leaning on the stage; no cramped conditions - all very nice. Normally u fight to get to the front, but this was so... relaxed. U could actually move your arms around, and it was nice and cool in the hall. All in all, a brilliant gig, except for... BAD VERSION: Got coach down, ate chicken tikka sandwiches and chocolate orange - as a consequence felt very sick; got to hotel, tired but still alive; left Bob the Tamagotchi in hotel room and forgot to feed him (when I got back he'd pooped everywhere!); feeling a little sicky, vision a little blurred; rain; standing around for ages at gig (and I was wearing my heavy platforms and the three pairs of socks I need to keep them on!), feeling a little queasy now, but luckily it's not too hot, and not at all cramped; stomach feels like it's digesting itself; feeling positively sick; in "Like Dylan..." begin to get a cold sweat on the back of my neck; the boyfriend asks do I want to get out? but I can't cos I've been looking forward to it for so long; big black blobs in front of eyes, band dissappear; can't hear them and I don't remember the next few minutes, but apparently I fell and cracked my head on the monitor (a nice bruise is now forming!); I come around and can't understand why he looks concerned, 'cos I just thought I'd closed my eyes for a second, but Suedebloke looks worried too; reassure boyfriend I'm fine; getting hot and then cold; having visions of throwing up on Stevies' shoes which I'd just been admiring a moment before, so I stick my head between two monitors and decide to be sick there; still haven't been sick, but everything's going black again; black out again, but when I come around again (and now this is the really trippy bit, and I swear to god I hadn't taken anything or even drunk anything beforehand!) there's flowers all over the stage, and on their clothes, following the guitars; after missing most of the next two songs, I feel much better; get back to hotel and sit with head in sink for half an hour, occasionely drooling or spitting bile. Not too good, huh? A special sorry goes out to Karl off this here list; he recognised me at the end of the gig (I think it was the red hair that did it!) and came over to introduce himself. I could still see flowers, and as far as I can remember this is how our converstation went (brackets indicate my slow and painful thought processes): K: Acrylica? Me: Ug? (there's a man. Who's he? I think I've lost my brain) K: Karl Me: Pardon? (Who's Paul?) K: Karl Me: Oh hello! (I'm going to vomit on him, I know I'm going to vomit on him) K: I saw u but didn't know if it was u, cos I was over there, are u OK? Me: Noo, I'm a bit ill actually (why's he swirling about and getting bigger and smaller?) K: Oh, too much to drink, heh? Me: No, no I haven't had any, it was the coach (urgh... I'm gonna retch on him) And then I don't remember much else, just pointing at his leather coat and then trying to climb down the big stone stairs in my heavy platforms. So, Karl... I'm sorry if I wasn't exactly with it, but u seemed lovely! Lots of love and (bleurghh!) iguanas... Acrylica sallydoll at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jkral at xxx.net Tue Dec 30 04:25:33 1997 From: jkral at xxx.net (jaysen kralovetz) Date: Mon, 29 Dec 1997 22:25:33 -0600 Subject: Sinister: The Manchester gigs... Message-ID: <199712300425.UAA23847@mailtod-111.bryant.webtv.net> So did anybody happen to get a set list from any of the shows? I'm curious to know what they played (since them playing in Wisconsin is probably out of the question). Thanks! Jaysen (jealous of all who attended). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mgilham at xxx.edu Tue Dec 30 05:46:38 1997 From: mgilham at xxx.edu (Michael H Gilham) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 00:46:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT In-Reply-To: <34A7F3D6.EFF1172@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: Greetings all! I live in America (Arlington, Virginia, at the moment) so I'm afraid I'm rather removed from that awful news about the van-break in ... Salford, eh? Maybe, you should have chosen another hotel or something ;) Just, kidding, sort of; I bet your van would've been safe at the Manchester YH! (down near the Hacienda and the Manchester Science Museum - or whatever it's called). ... Yes, although I'm American; I was lucky enough to have a visit to Manc. some two yrs. ago! Quite nice; and thus, it's been quite interesting reading all the posts about the Town Hall gig: I can't believe it was held there!! I remember seeing it - walking by, and that - but of course I didn't go inside ... Is anyone on the list familiar w/ the Manc. City Library? It's a rather impressive building/place in its own right; at least I thought so! Re. the merchandise news - part of which I was already aware of from being on the web-page: why have you taken everything down? I guess it'd be just too difficult to sort things out piece-meal? I'm new to the list, and everything ... Could someone explain to me the whole deal w/ the Ink Polaroids; i.e. what are they exactly?? I'm sorry it happens that I'm making my introduction to the list in response to a less than cheery set of circumstances! ... But, nevertheless: cheers! ...Hope they catch the merchandise bandits! Waiting for the American Invasion, --Michael Gilham Arlington, Virginia, United States of America PS Manchester is nice, but Leeds is even nicer!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Dec 30 11:19:42 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 03:19:42 PST Subject: Sinister: other bands Message-ID: hey. i went record shopping the other day and i picked up the trembling blue stars album that a couple of you mentioned on this list. it was amazing. who can tell me anything else about them. how many albums do they have. e.p's. i got "her handwriting" also, the guy told me if liked b&s that i would like this band called le mans. he let me hear some of it, but he only had it on vinyl and i am record player-less. but it sounded like belle and sebastian being sung in spanish. it was really good, too. i wanted it moreso than trembling blue stars, but, well, i've alreayd told you. so, who knows anything about a band called le mans? they are on elefant records. i also picked up a sarah records compilation. sarah 100 there and back again lane, i think it's called. being from south georgia, i wasn't exposed to all this stuff that you guys (y'all) keep talking about. there's some really good stuff on it as well. i guess all in all i had a really good shopping trip while all of you were watching some dumb band play in manchester. hahahahahaa. oh, and i got a cd by this band called holiday. it's really poppy and good too. they cover a magnetic fields song and they have trumpet and all kinds of instruments. my friend said that the new cmj recommended it you liked b&s, magnetic fields, and luna. i don't hear no luna in it. i hear more soft pop boo radleys than anything. that's all. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Tue Dec 30 07:35:55 1997 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley wilkinson) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:35:55 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Re: a lemur is for life, not just for Christmas References: <199712241140.LAA11227@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34A8A45A.13CA@gil.com.au> ..on Tue, 23 Dec 1997 12:26:25 GMT, Tag questioned... > Oh, and Susannah, when you ask 'Is Stuart ginger?', is that literally, > or in Cockney rhyming slang. The strawberry blond people on the list > are easily hurt, you know. And yes, that does include me. me too (sniffle, sniffle... i'll just be in the corner if you need me) shelley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Tue Dec 30 07:08:25 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 05:08:25 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Re: other bands Message-ID: <199712300510.FAA04469@gemeos.electus.com.br> > also, the guy told me if liked b&s that i would like this band called le mans. he let me hear some of it, but he only had it on vinyl and i am record player-less. but it sounded like belle and sebastian being sung in spanish. it was really good, too. i wanted it moreso than trembling blue stars, but, well, i've alreayd told you. > so, who knows anything about a band called le mans? they are on elefant records. Le Mans , a Spanish Belle & Sebastian ? I don't think so ! but i DO know some good LM 's songs . Try http://www.nstop.com/grimsey/ "Sunny Spanish pop music with enchanting bounce and irresistible flamenco swing. Combines their first two albums on one CD." (Grimsey Records Page) They also have "Un Rayo de Sol" 7" single. Cessna is a GREAT band too... I'm so in love with their album (a cool double 3" Cd ) The Label http://www.algonet.se/~elegans/radiok/ The Band http://www.sci.fi/~solaris/cessna/ Denver,another great band. If you love Felt.....you will like Denver. Their 7" is so good Denver Page http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/smaughan/denver/homepage.htm Hey... This is the B&S list.....sorry !!!! Happy 1998 !!! Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Iker at xxx.it Tue Dec 30 08:11:31 1997 From: Iker at xxx.it (Iker) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:11:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: LE MANS! Message-ID: <199712300823.IAA01406@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Hi everyone! My name's Iker and I'm new in Sinister. I live in Italy, but my mom's from San Sebastian, Euskadi, the place from where LE MANS come from. Le Mans was born from Aventuras de Kirlian's ashes, and it is one of the most important bands in spanish indie-pop renassaince. Everyone of you should try them out, believe me... You can find all the info you need at: www.get.es/elefant ( elefant records is a GREAT label! ) e-mail: elefant at get.es ( please tell Luis that Iker from Italy told you to write... ) Here's a small Le Mans' discography: ER-1005 LE MANS ( c.d./l.p. ) ER-1020 ENTRESEMANA ( c.d./l.p. ) ER-1023 SAUDADE ( c.d./l.p. ) ...just fantastic... ED-002 ZERBINA ( mini c.d./l.p. ) ED-004 JONATHAN JEREMIAH ( maxi-single/c.d.-single ) ER-312 MI NOVELA AUTOBIOGRAFICA ( mini l.p./c.d. ) ...There's more, but I can't remember now... Elefant Records also publishes EXCLUSIVE stuff by bands like Ivy, Spring, Allen Clapp, Orange Cake Mix, Will Oldham, Po!, St.Christopher,... O.K., I hope of having been helpful. If anyone of you needs more info about spanish bands could write me at: Iker at iol.it CIAO! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Tue Dec 30 09:14:32 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 97 09:14:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: Manchester gigs review Message-ID: <971230091432.n0006881.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Ok, OK, can't remember precisely which songs when and what have you, but basically this is my own personal review of Saturday and Sunday nights performances. Some scenes may be unsuitable for young children. Saturday Night. Missed most of Arab Strap, what with alcohol being confined to the small bar space outside the main hall, but finished my drink and wandered on in. Crowded upstairs in the Town Hall, the ceilings look massive and the stage is sprawling out like some twisted arm, I decide to stand just sort of in the middle somewhere, between the two speakers, and waited until an assorted motley crue lolloped on stage, smiled and picked up their instruments. They 'launch' or rather, fall into the first which is sweet and pretty (look I told you I can't remember which songs OK?), but so very quiet. What follows is the sort of dissarray that B&S have seem to have made their trademark, false starts, different members of the bands playing different songs, Stuart Murdoch forgetting the words, and standing around nonchalantly tuning instruments. One half of the audience laps it up, laughing each time theres a slip up, and clapping if they actually GET IT RIGHT, as if by complete accident they manage to pull off a song. If Stuart Murdoch had simply walked on and taken a piss, there would have been applause. The other half, like me, are waiting, loving the songs themselves but standing around muttering during the long disorganised breaks, so wanting and willing them to pull off a couple of songs in succession so we can actually get going and the exhilaration can carry over. Instead it just dissolves, flattened by the sheer incompetency of what seems at times like your little brother's high school band. Someone behind me shouts out 'Get your fucking act together' when again, a song collapses and Stuart shuffles and mumbles 'this is just embarrasing' . I sigh . Look, if you're going to play, like, one gig a year, at least bother to rehearse beforehand? Sunday Night. Again, cannot comment on the support, so I'll leave a gap for you to fill in with your own thoughts, or some doodles of flowers or something... Right, walk in and wait for the Rum Bunch to assemble once again, half resigned to the shambles of the night before.. Instead, they start off with (?) and suddenly the sound is richer and deeper than the previous, Stuarts voice sounds fantastic and the melodies surge in waves . I cross my fingers and hope... A couple of songs in, it all breaks down again, theres something wrong with Isobels cello , I think 'Oh God here we go again..' but I needn't have worried as when finally they start again after an impromtu 'and he painted matchstick men and matchstick cats and dogs' by Stuart and Stevie, the songs roll on, sounding bigger and better. When 'Get me away' starts , the difference is astounding, last night it was weak and thin, but tonight it gushes and flows. I'm in heaven at this point, the dissapointments of yesterday all forgotten. One after another they roll past, The State I am in, Modern Rock Song, Judy, Century of Elvis, She's Losing it, Le Pastie, etc. THIS is who I came to see, they're playing together, the sound levels perhaps tweaked overnight, they are wonderful and the audience starts to dance. I love it. Isobels solo number, she stands gazing skywards, her eyelashes fluttering wildly and her glittery top catching the flashes of a thousand camera flashes. If Stuart has got all of us eating out of the palm of his hand by now, then God only knows what they're doing to Isobel. Watching Stevie play guitar is my latest fascination, the way he pouts and plucks with his mad flailing right arm, ' someone shouts 'Stevie go solo' and Stuart M grins and retorts 'ssshhhhhhhh !'. I come away thrilled and smiling. ******************************************************************************** We're four boys in our corduroys, we're terrific but incompetent !! ******************************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Tue Dec 30 14:52:13 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 30 Dec 97 14:52:13 Subject: Sinister: Civic pride Message-ID: <9712301405.AA3505@notesgw.compuserve.com> Uh-uh-uh (supposed to be the noise of a small child desperately trying to get its words out but too excited to do anything but attract attention with a repetitive kind of squeal). So much to say. I've just returned to work (boo!) and thus internet access and read through piles and piles of wonderful archived sinister postings. Beat Patrol and Susannah's questions being answered and the start of the avalanche of Manchester-related gushing. It's all enough to make me forget my looming mountains of unopened post and inevitable end of year direction of life angst. Err.. yes, the Town Hall. Sigh. I left work before the meet up details were posted so I missed out on all that. Perhaps this was a bad thing. But I went to Saturday's with some friends from Manchester I haven't seen for two years so it would have all been a bit awkward. I hope those who did meet up had fun and were not shocked by each other's appearances. As I looked around Albert Square at everyone I was somehow disappointed. How rude of me. I don't know what would have impressed me. Probably not looking at myself. Partly it was just the preponderance of twenty-something males in studenty attire. Which probably covers me, but I do look about 12 so maybe I don't count. Oh, I don't know what I'm on about. I suddenly sound all negative and that's no good. Because I come to praise not to bury (: I'm not going to attempt a review of Saturday's concert. Just some random thoughts: it was a shambles....the sound was pretty ropey...it made me laugh when we were finally let in and people started forming the only orderly single-file queue for a bar i've ever seen (although this soon broke down and B&S fans showed themselves for the beer monsters they really are)...after queuing for about half an hour for an ill-advised third drink a kind boy said i think she's first and then _she_ said actually i think _he's_ first and then i failed to carry on the goodwill and said yes i think i am...thankyou whoever you are...stuart murdoch doesn't look like he does in the few photos i've seen...less debonair and more gawky...i was too far back in the crowd...my (female) friend said later that every male in the audience was transfixed by isobel...i thought it was just me...everyone stood still...the same friend also said that the girl at the merchandise stall (Katrina) was dead posh...i left not allowing myself to think that it had been a little bit joyless. But Sunday lunchtime - ah, now that was a whole lot different. Just me on my lonesome this time. I arrived just as everyone got chucked out to wait outside which meant that I ended up being right at the front of the queue. Got talking to a rather snooty boy who was slagging off the t-shirts and the prospect of 'teenyboppers' ruining everything by dancing and singing along. Stopped talking to him after a while. Skip forward to sitting cross-legged right in front of the right (in theatre direction terms) side of the stage. Waited for hours reading Little Ink Movies and Creme Anglaise, surveying the scene and wondering what happened to the festive film idea. Failed to talk to anyone. Wondered what I must look like to everyone else a lot. Gosh e-mails get long when you do this sort of thing. Is anyone even still with me? I shall abandon the chronological approach. So I spent the whole wonderful time under Stuart Murdoch's nose. And yes it was wonderful (not his nose - that was only adequate). Everything that was disappointing about Saturday was put to rights. Saturday was like a rehearsal really - intriguing but they didn't really gel. Completely different set of 14 songs except for Arab Strap. Better selection of new stuff. Tigermilk rocked like a lemur. Everyone filled in for Stuart when he forgot his terry underwear. We all cheered Stevie (who seemed an excellent steadying presence on the proceedings - I'm sure he makes an excellent counsellor) and his ever-shining Seymour Stein. Mick Cooke's very handsome, isn't he? And best of all, I grabbed a set-list at the end. As well as being something generally t reasurable, it let me put names to gorgeous new songs like Simple Things. And next to Expectations the absent-minded Boy Stuart had written the first lines of some of the verses that he has difficulty remembering. Some people I noticed - anyone recognise themselves? : - An Edwyn Collins lookalike in rather dapper clothes who wandered around for a while, then appeared to be worshipping the speaker stack, and finally spotted a man in glasses round the other side of the stage so dashed around there, where he stayed for the rest of the evening. - A boy in black with worrying maroon slip-on shoes complete with gold buckle and a perfectly accessorised gold carrier bag. He sat just behind me on the floor near the front whilst waiting for the band to appear, and seemed as on his own as me. - A girl with big red hair sitting on a podium stage right. - A girl with lanky hair and glasses, wearing a flowery pink blouse and a red tank top. I kicked your elbow as I negotiated the seated hoards on my from way back from the gents. You said "Ow!". I said "Oops! Sorry". Sorry again. If I'd been a quick-thinking pervert I could have kissed it better and then said "But I'm only re-enacting the lyrics to Seeing Other People". But luckily I'm neither quick-thinking nor a pervert. - A bloke with long hair and glasses who was behind me at the front. You tried to attract Isobel's attention at the end, perhaps to get her set list or something, but her attention wasn't to be attracted. - Someone who I'm sure was Danny the miserable loner off "Grange Hill". Tell me this is true! - Some tallish skinny boy right at the front who spoke to no one, grinned inanely throughout the set, and unzipped his murky green top to reveal a cornflower blue Go-Betweens T-Shirt. Oh, of course - that was me! So long all. I think I've outstayed my welcome. Hope to meet you all one day...errrm...I'll get me coat. Nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Tue Dec 30 16:26:19 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:26:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ally ally o Message-ID: <199712301625.QAA02162@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> So... Sunday. Get stuck in a two hour jam in Birmingham and arrive in Manchester ghost-town very late and irate. Check in at what must be the swankiest youth hostel in the world, and set out to find the pub. But the Square Albert is closed and there's a note saying 'We've gone to the Ferris Wheel'. We ask lots of people if they know of a pub called the Ferris Wheel, but no-one knows it. Sometimes I think I'm not literal enough. Anyway, we get into the hall, which is a vision of splendour, and meet lots of mad list people (Soozy, Susannah, Kate, Keith, Rob, Tag) all telling me how fantastic the aftershow had been. Curses...why did I have to come on the Sunday? Anyway, missed Future Pilot. Finally went into the actual hall just before B&S appear. They've decided to adopt a very strange stage line-up, as though they're about to play a particularly one-sided game of British Bulldog: Stuart M, Stevie, Mick, Isobel and Sarah facing directly opposite Chris and Richard, with the PA piled into a kind of totem pole in the middle. Two songs into the set and they're already living up to their reputation for being world-class shamblers, as the cello seems to require some kind of intensive care. Stevie amuses us with Matchstick Cats and Dogs, and points out the resemblance of the riff from La Pastie to the beginning of Emmerdale Farm. I'm feeling alternately a bit irritated and a bit amused at the shambolic set, when suddenly Isobel sings the most beautiful version of Orange Juice's 'In a Nutshell' you're ever likely to hear, with 'Sha sha sha sha sha' BVs from Stuart M, and the gig really takes off. The new songs in particular, with Stuart at the keyboard were just stunning. A qualified triumph, then, with Stevie Jackson again claiming the title of Greatest Living Scotsman. Hello to everyone I met, and everyone I didn't meet, come to think of it. May a strong wind blow the t-shirt thief straight to hell. Stephen xxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Dec 30 16:49:59 1997 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:49:59 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Sunday grrr Message-ID: Well - when Stuart David was in the chatroom last week he told us the Manchester gigs were going to be "crap" - to which we agreed in the anti-sychophantic way you do - but - well was he half right? Susannah's dead right - Saturday was a bit of a shambles, but with sparkles of transfixing beauty that didn't for this sour old trout quite make up for it. Right now I'm kicking myself everytime I read a Sunday review. Any more glowing reports and you all get removed from the list and me and Splat use it to talk catfood. Except I want to hear. For those who weren't there all I can say is from outside the vicinity of the two stages the sound was just very confused and I suspect the band got screwed up by reflections off the huge (and frighteningly beautiful) ceiling. I'm wondering how they got it together for Sunday. The band's pesky antics were as charming as ever but didn't mix so well when the frustration got too high; but the new songs shone and sparkled. Isobel's song was gorgeous (and yes, we were transfixed). But I did leave with a slightly empty feeling as if I hadn't quite been to a B&S gig. I suspect it might have been very different between the two stages, but I was too tired to fight my way in. The meeting before in the Square Albert was the highlight for me - I discovered I *do* want to have all your babies! You're all such a nice bunch I suspect you're employed by the National Health to keep me happy. It was such an amazing experience to meet so many people I'd met here: Keith, Susannah, Pam, David, Katrina, Soozy, Sarah, Tag, Dave, Stuart, John (thanks for the choccie santa), Risso and all the rest of you - well *I* wasn't disappointed! It was a very incomplete experience actually as I wanted to drag you all off and talk about life - maybe we'll do it properly sometime. Three of us made Tag's aftershow for about 30 mins but my pacemaker was running out (joke) so we left and met everyone I wanted to meet on the stairs. I gather we missed half the band a little later and my chance to become a groupie - oh well. Poor D&K though - can I beg anyone in Manchester to do some undercover detective work to find some of this merchandise - D&K - if there's anything 400 people can do here just ask. Oh yes, and it *is* 400 - we just passed the mark yesterday! Welcome to everyone new and erm... pull up a chair and put your feet up with a nice cuppa. Finally - well I'm doing a lot of sitting around just now but I'll reply to emails, requests for tapes etc. SOOOOOON. Hey and did I miss anyone I promised a tape to at the gig - if so mail me. And could someone beam me back to Sunday please? Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul_Clarke at xxx.uk Tue Dec 30 17:02:41 1997 From: Paul_Clarke at xxx.uk (Paul_Clarke at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 17:02:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Terrific, but not competent Message-ID: <0003A4F5.1736@ipc.co.uk> Don't read this if you're a sensitive sort... Oh, that's everyone isn't it... Bah Humbug, etc, Saturdays gig was SHITE. I had a truly grate time, and when the band all got it together, they were good, and the atmosphere was lovely, and the drink was slowing, and there were some quite beautiful and friendly people there, but the band were ARSE... Their "oops, we're playing the wrong song, at the wrong time, in the wrong time, on the wrong instruments, in the wrong venue, aren't we just so bonkers and eclectic" is not really that clever at all... And 90% of the audience applauding and laughing politely every time the band messed up was one of the most embarrassing and cringeworthy spectacles I've ever witnessed. I can respect the band's decision not to do interviews, or TV, or many gigs, it's their ball, and they can play the game however they like. BUT if they're going to be taking large wads of cash off their adoring audience the very LEAST they could do is not take the piss out of everyone by being so incompetent... Things were good again by sunday night, I hope the sunday afternoon gig was good too if people travelled a long way. ObFoppishness: It was snowing once, and I saw a fox, and it was so beautiful that I shat in my hands and rubbed it on my face. Is that how it's supposed to go? It's been "nice", think I'll unsub any minute now, cheerio... Nice to meat and drink with some of you in Manchester, thanks for the mug and letting us into the club for free to the respective people... Pauly xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alison at xxx.edu Tue Dec 30 17:39:14 1997 From: alison at xxx.edu (Andrew Lison) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 09:39:14 -0800 Subject: Sinister: other bands In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19971230093914.007ea850@itsa.ucsf.edu> Hello everyone! I'm new to this list, so I thought I'd say hello and respond to some of Brandon's Sarah-related stuff. Shame to hear about the break-in. At 03:19 AM 12/30/97 PST, bradford wrote: >i went record shopping the other day and i picked up the trembling blue stars album that a couple of you >mentioned on this list. it was amazing. who can tell me anything else about them. how many albums do they >have. e.p's. i got "her handwriting" Trembling Blue Stars is Robert (?) who used to be in the Field Mice and Northern Picture Library. His girlfriend, Annemari (also of the Field Mice and NPL) broke up with him, causing him to write an entire album about her, "Her Handwriting." Aside from that album, they also have a single, "The Rainbow," which, if you buy on CD, comprises just about everything they've ever put out. It's all produced by Ian Catt, who produced St. Etienne and other good stuff. And, since you liked Sarah 100, you would probably do well to seek out any Northern Picture Library stuff you can find. Most of it is still in print, on Vinyl Japan. Check out their album "Alaska" and their two singles, "Blue Dissolve" and "Love Song for a Dead Che." I'd recommend the Field Mice as well, but their stuff is horribly out of print. >i also picked up a sarah records compilation. sarah 100 there and back again lane, i think it's called. being >from south georgia, i wasn't exposed to all this stuff that you guys (y'all) keep talking about. there's some >really good stuff on it as well. It's funny to see this album mentioned right after I subscribed to the list, because the three albums that have had nonstop play on my stereo have been "If You're Feeling Sinister," Sarah 100, and "Homogenic" by Bjork. I am also pretty new to the whole Sarah thing, being American and only twenty years old. Everything I've heard is great, though. ObB&S: I saw on their web page that the PBS show "Sessions at West 54th Street" was supposed to show a Belle and Sebastian set last Saturday, but I went to their website and found no mention of it. Did this happen, or is it still to come? And also, are there any planned B&S gigs in the next two months or so? I may have to go to England on business and would love to check 'em out. I'll probably post again later seeking more general tips on things to do and places to go, etc. Andrew ___________________________________________________________________________ Someone said that it's not punk to own a computer. Is it punk to break into your neighbors house at night and check your mail on their computer? I'm just trying to keep it real, ya know. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Dec 30 18:10:22 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:10:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: kate d!!!!!! Message-ID: OK, I apologise for this going to the list but this is important to me! KATE! You stole my star wand you!!!!! now evryone is going to think that i am you! this is indeed not fair! i thought for once i could be original.....ah well nevr mind. :0) <----smiley with a nose! i got told off for my smileys having no nosees so whoever told me to have a smiley with a nose are you happy??? :) (heehee!) i was the one with a star wand with it's own little feather boa. there you go. and incidentally, B&S on Sat were still good. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "I saw the best meals of my generation Destroyed by the madness of my brother My soul carved in slices By spiky haired demons" --Lisa Simpson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Tue Dec 30 19:56:28 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 19:56:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: fun fun fun in the sun sun sun Message-ID: <199712301956.TAA02085@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> hey ho, i went to the sat gig and well ok i was aware of some dubious sound quality (esp during get me way from here im tie dying ) but um i was right under stuarts nose and apart from a few glitches had a great time.. - bar the moshing girls just infront of us (you know who you are). any b+s gig is a good gig. its not like they tour/play live all the time so i was happy enough to see them fumbling around on stage. all the people i met were pleasant and nice and things - special thanks again to paul for the beat petrol tape - glad you enjoyed the santa .. and remember kids love dont hate... happy new year jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AmyRicha at xxx.com Tue Dec 30 21:31:18 1997 From: AmyRicha at xxx.com (AmyRicha) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:31:18 EST Subject: Sinister: hola Message-ID: <16e93f6f.34a96828@aol.com> Hello people, seasonal salutations and all, this message is really just to announce myself: I (re)joined the list today having tried it before and almost drowned under the sea of postings that were put on it. However I've dried meself off and I'm going to give it another go because I like Belle and Sebastian so much. It was love at first sight for me and If You're Feeling Sinister when I bought it around this time last year, and I suppose B&S have been my favourite band ever since. I don't like to admit to having very broad musical tastes in here in case it makes me sound like a diluted b&s fan- I've read a couple of mails on the list devoted to Sarah records, and while that stuff is nice (although- i'm going to say something controversial- not as nice as belle and sebastian) I like to listen to other stuff sometimes too. I'm also very fond of Nick Drake, Tindersticks, Joni Mitchell, Hendrix, Arab Strap, The Delgados, SFA... hang on a bit I don't want to bore everyone to death, I'll shut up because that could carry on for a while:) I'm 15, I live near Brighton, I'm in the fifth year, but I'm not going to start remembering about school in the middle of my holiday, and I feel at a terrible disadvantage because I can't get to any of B&S's gigs- unless they happen to be in Brighton:'( So perhaps I'll become the list's resident social reject because I won't be able to comment on the shows. However, I've been given many reports on their live performances by many people whose opinions I respect (and that includes you lot cos you like belle and sebastian) and the verdict seems to be unanimously 'a shambles'. B&S themselves admit it's a shambles. So perhaps I am better off staying at home and not venturing near a gig or a music paper (the NME seems to adore the music but hate the band), and instead nurture my rose tinted view of them whilst falling into a hypnotic trance caused by staring too long at my record player spinning round and round and round and round, watching all the little grooves swirling about:) Well this letter is now becoming reminiscent of one of those sleep inducing tapes for insomniacs so that's all for now. I'm off to do some exciting as yet unknown activity which will probably involve as little movement as possible because I'm preparing myself for tomorrow night. Perhaps I'll try meditation, or give myself up to the allure of Catcher in the Rye. Good old JD Salinger. May Currantbun Bonne Année - Feliz Año - Buon Anno - Happy New ear. Ear? Year. «««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««« Believe it or not, a flying fox is not a fox. It is a rodent. «««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««««« ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oasis at xxx.au Tue Dec 30 23:57:42 1997 From: oasis at xxx.au (Pete) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:57:42 +1100 Subject: Sinister: Oh and umm errr ... Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19971231105742.00798340@magna.com.au> Hi Someone mentioned the Go Betweens, so I thought I'd mention them as well. The Go Betweens That's all I really wanted to say. Oh Amanda Brown, their rather fetching violin/oboe player is in a new band around Sydney called Love Me, a Cowboy Junkies-countryish-acoustic outfit, who are know to play the Hoey in Sydney to cross-legged floor sitters, floral dressed types, and emerging hippies. They are a marvellous band who have just released their second CD. You probably knpw more about what Grant and Robert are doing, although they have played a few shows around here. And Lindy the marvellous drummer I've heard playing drums somewhere or other. Anyhow I havent mentioned Belle and Sebastian, so I will now. Silently. Hope everyone has a smashing New Year. Pete Australia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 00:03:24 1997 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:03:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Birth of the 3rd Album? In-Reply-To: <199712301956.TAA02085@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear Sinisters Hello and how are you ppl? I must say that Ive really enjoyed myself on the weekend. It was also nice meeting some of the indiepopsters ,,,, I must say it was memorable. Anyone knows about the news of the up and coming album of Belle and Seb album? Is it going to be on Jeepster or on other labels? Hope to hear from you ppl again! Cheers D A N I E L O O perhaps the only chinese in the gig!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 02:24:15 1997 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 02:24:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nottingham forest / dog on wheels Message-ID: <199712310110.BAA30620@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Okay I am not going to swear in this email but I am very, very tempted. I was slouching on the sofa, watching MTV Alternative Nation. It was playing Cornershop's ' Brimful of Asha on the 45 ' , which out of interest is a good song. At the end of the record I began thinking, "Belle and Sebastian did a video for Lazy Line Painter Jane. It was shown on the ITV Chart Show. I wish it would come up next" This is not something I usually think and to my utter amazement at something that just couldn't be a coincidence, the opening tones of ' Dog on Wheels ' came on!!!!! What are the chances of a Belle and Sebastian video being shown at any time. It was so weird. First Belle and Sebastian promo I have seen before. The video: Okay it is basically shot in a slightly fuzzy tone. It might feature members of the band ( I dunno what they look like - damn those Manchester gig-goers!!!) but who knows. They were searching for a Dog on Wheels and thats it really. Not the best description really but there was a wall with the following graffitti: "La Pastie de la Bourgeoisie". Wow! Okay - next bit I figure that if there are now over 400 people on this list ( + I keep seeing " hi I am new " messages all the time ) then someone must support Nottingham Forest, like me. Also I suspect that the most of us are british considering B&S's well...y'know...scottishness. Also has anyone been to my home town? It is near Heathrow. It is called Ashford and it is NOT the Ashford in Kent. Does anyone live near me? Don't worry I am not an internet freakazoid! Just a yes or no will suffice I don't want to meet up or anything. I am just curious. Also are there any Germans out there? I am doing A level German and am gonna do German & Linguistics at Bangor in North Wales. Anyone out there to practice german emails mit? Okay - oh yeah - I am only recently into the Smiths. I bought ' Queen is Dead ' after hearing Cemetery Gates. What other albums should I buy? I also got ' Southpaw Grammar ' by Morrissey for £3.99 which I also like. What good albums has he done? In a tape swap earlier in the year. I made a couple of tapes of Radiohead bsides for someone in Newcastle. I filled one side up with Belle and Sebastian 'cause I'd run out of gloom from ver 'head. He emailed me back and said he absolutely loved B&S and he has now bought all there stuff (except TM of course!). I will now forever know Lazy Line Painter Jane as " that song wiv the bird innit " as he so eloquently put it! OTHER NEWS: I was in a (proper) record shop in Twickenham the other day and asked just out of interest if he had Tigermilk. He said no but told me an interesting story of how his friend sold a vinyl copy for a fiver!!!! What a mistaka to maka!!!! Okey Dokey I am going now bye NORTHY!!! ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 02:50:52 1997 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 02:50:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Little Old Lady Message-ID: <199712310137.BAA32307@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> THE LITTLE OLD LADY AND THE BET A little old lady went into the Bank of Canada one day,carrying a bag ofmoney. She insisted that she must speak with the president of the bank to open a savings account because, "It's a lot of money!" After much hemming and hawing, the bank staff finally ushered her into the president's office (the customer is always right!). The bank president then asked her how much she would like to deposit. She replied, "$165,000!" and dumped the cash out of her bag onto his desk. The president was of course curious as to how she came by all this cash, so he asked her, "Ma'am, I'm surprised you're carrying so much cash around. Where did you get this money?" The old lady replied, "I make bets." The president then asked, "Bets? What kind of bets?" The old woman said, "Well, for example, I'll bet you $25,000 that your balls are square." "Ha!" laughed the president, "That's a stupid bet. You can never win that kind of bet!" The old lady challenged, "So, would you like to take my bet?" "Sure," said the president, "I'll bet $25,000 that my balls arenot square!" The little old lady then said, "Okay, but sincethere is a lot of money involved, may I bring my lawyer with me tomorrow at 10:00am as witness?" "Sure!" replied the confident president. That night, the president got very nervous about the bet and spent a long time in front of a mirror checking his balls, turning from side to side, again and again. He thoroughly checked them out until he was sure that there was absolutely no way his balls were square and that he would win the bet. The next morning, at precisely 10:00 am, the little old lady appeared with her lawyer at the president's office. She introduced the lawyer to the president and repeated the bet: "$25,000 says the president's balls are square!" The president agreed with the bet again and the old lady asked him to drop his pants so they could all see. The president complied. The little old lady peered closely at his balls and then asked if she could feel them. "Well, Okay," said the president, "$25,000 is a lot of money, so guess you should be absolutely sure." Just then, he noticed that the lawyer was quietly banging his head against the wall. The president asked the old lady, "What the hell's the matter with your lawyer?" She replied, "Nothing, except I bet him $100,000 that at 10:00 am today, I'd have The Bank of Canada's president's balls in my hand." ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 02:01:02 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (***Rob B***) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 02:01:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sunday gig... oh yes Message-ID: <199712310200.CAA25013@sand.global.net.uk> Hello all I've noticed quite a few messages on the list about the gigs, so I'll try and keep this one short(ish)... Sunday... the day I'd been waiting for for a long long time! It began with a six hour coach journey from London - nice! through the rain and traffic and Birmingham, eventually arriving in Manchester at about 4. We went to my friend's flat, and then caught the bus back into town, stopping at a vodka bar, where I partook of a 'dime bar' flavoured vodka - hmm... won't be trying that one again! We got to the Square Albert pub at about six. "Erm, it doesn't look terribly open", "no..." ; sure enough, the designated meeting place was not up to much. We hung around not sure what to do for a while, listening to some people in the square celebrating Hannukah (i think), until some other people turned up also hoping to get into the pub (hi Soozy, Kate, Sally, Andy and lots of other people whose names i have forgotten - sorry!) To pass the time, we went to play on the Ferris Wheel (sorry Stephen, it really was a Ferris Wheel, not a pub!), then went to the pub afterwards, making it to the town hall by about half seven. Wow! what a building!!! It's a lovely gothic thing with spiky bits all over, and a somewhat 'flat' inflatable Father Christmas, and cartoons projected over the outside walls... inside there was a jewellery exhibition, and upstairs was where the bar and band area was. The hall itself was wonderful, with a superbly ornate ceiling and lovely Holman Hunt oil paintings adorning the lavish walls. A perfect venue for a perfect band! and the stage was in the shape of a U... After a bit of milling around in the bar area, Future Pilot aka began their set. Erm, did anyone else find them a bit strange?? I really didn't get what they were all about at all! Maybe I just wasn't being receptive enough, but still... Then, the moment we were all waiting four... the band ambled on stage, and started tuning up; a few moments later we were swaying to the gorgeous strains of modern rock song, followed by the state i am in - always brings tears to my eyes that one. and so on and so on... even when isobel's 'cello broke the rest of the band managed to keep us all entertained by very amusing ad-libbing (and god! the guitar bit to le pastie really is from Emmerdale farm!) It was a superb show, everything fell into place, and i loved every minute of it. Does anyone have a set list for the sunday? As far as I can remember they did 'modern rock song', 'the state i am in', 'the loneliness of the middle distance runner' (the first time i'd heard that - i love it!), 'she's losing it', 'century of elvis' - that was lovely!, 'judy and the dream of horses', 'seeing other people', 'sleep the clock around', 'you made a young boy very sad' - is that the correct name?, 'dylan in the movies', 'le pastie', something about matchstick men (?), that orange juice song that isobel sang so sweetly, 'seymour stein', and a few others that either i can't remember or don't know! Wow, what a night! See you at the next gig - hope to meet more of you then! love you all Rob xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Wed Dec 31 04:46:00 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 23:46:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sunday gig... oh yes References: <199712310200.CAA25013@sand.global.net.uk> Message-ID: <34A9CE08.1214@interaccess.com> ***Rob B*** wrote: > Does anyone have a set list for the sunday? As far as I can > remember they did... something about matchstick men (?) A cover version of "Pictures Of Matchstick Men" the old Status Quo song? Gee, that would be cool... Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 08:18:35 1997 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 08:18:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: nottingham forest / dog on wheels In-Reply-To: <199712310110.BAA30620@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: Northy, i'm a not a forest fan, but anyway... (tho stuart pearce is a great great man...) you asked about morrissey albums; i think the best are viva hate and vauxhall and i, tho you might like bona drag, which is a singles and b-sides compilation: i've gone off him rather recently - i saw him live a year or two ago and he seemed just to be very lacklustre and uninterested, and the last few albums have been patchy to say the least. still, i don't need to worry now, having discovered a band at leats as good as the smiths were over ten years ago (and i think we all know who that is, chldren, don't we?) anyway, that's all i wanted to say. tho i am curious as to who the other cam.ac.uk people are on the list: when i checked last week, i saw about four out of 270-odd, which is oddly high, but i recognised no-one's address. bye! alastair ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Wed Dec 31 11:35:53 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 31 Dec 97 11:35:53 Subject: Sinister: Set-lists Message-ID: <9712311105.AA7433@notesgw.compuserve.com> As I mentioned in yesterday's rambling post, I swiped the set-list for the Sunday matinee. Here it is: Seeing Other People Mayfly Beautiful Dirty Dream Fox In The Snow Tigermilk Expectations The Stars of Track and Field Lazy Line Painter Jane Seymour Stein Simple Things Middle Distance Runner Something On My Mind Arab Strap Chick Factor is written but crossed out after Seeing Other People. Something on my Mind was a cover of song by a band called Left Bank I think. Does anyone have Saturday's? The following is what I can recall (I'm not very good with picking out lyrics of new songs, especially with sound as dodgy as Saturday): Put The Book Back On The Shelf I Don't Love Anyone A Century Of Fakers ?new song Slow Graffiti ?new song which started with Stuart David reading some of his scribblings and ended up very strange Photo Jenny ?new song Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying Is It Wicked Not To Care? ?new song with a line about having a stroke at 24 Like Dylan In The Movies ?new song Rollercoaster Ride (I think) One of the new songs was sung by Stevie (not Seymour Stein) and one was Arab Strap. God I'm boring. Nick nick_dastoor at notes.compuserve.com P.S. Dirty Dream is very good ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Wed Dec 31 11:39:07 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 06:39:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Set-lists References: <9712311105.AA7433@notesgw.compuserve.com> Message-ID: <34AA2EDB.2FCE@interaccess.com> Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB wrote: > > As I mentioned in yesterday's rambling post, I swiped the set-list for the > Sunday matinee. Here it is: > > Seeing Other People > Mayfly > Beautiful > Dirty Dream > Fox In The Snow > Tigermilk > Expectations > The Stars of Track and Field > Lazy Line Painter Jane > Seymour Stein > Simple Things > Middle Distance Runner > Something On My Mind > Arab Strap > Something on my Mind was a cover of song by a band called Left Bank I think. > My Left Bank CD has no such song on it (liner notes say it's the complete works). The Kinks wrote an incredible song called "Too Much On My Mind" that would sound wonderful covered by B&S. now I really wanna know... Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From JAMES at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 13:13:58 1997 From: JAMES at xxx.uk (James Morton) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:13:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nottingham forest / dog on wheels Message-ID: <883574049.105180.0@jmorton.demon.co.uk> > I figure that if there are now over 400 people on this list ( + I > keep seeing " hi I am new " messages all the time ) Ah, that would be my cue then..."hi, I am new". Erm...I won't start by saying how much I love B&S (although I do), since I'm sure everyone here does if they're on this list, but it is very nice to find so many other people in on the secret. I only heard them for the very first time yesterday after picking up "If You're..." from HMV on a whim (I have a strange habit of buying albums by groups I know nothing about and have never heard just because I like the cover of the record), and after a couple of listens I was already a devoted fan for life. > Okay - oh yeah - I am only recently into the Smiths. I bought ' > Queen is Dead ' after hearing Cemetery Gates. What other albums > should I buy? I also got ' Southpaw Grammar ' by Morrissey for stlg3.99 > which I also like. What good albums has he done? The Smiths are my favourite band by a big margin so this isn't very impartial advice, but...I'd recommend pretty much anything by them - you can never have too many Smiths albums. Louder Than Bombs is a good intro since it includes about 24 songs, but here's the full album list: The Smiths Hatful Of Hollow Meat Is Murder The Queen Is Dead The World Won't Listen Louder Than Bombs Strangeways Here We Come Rank (live album) Plus the inevitable "Best Of..." and singles collections. Moz's solo albums are a bit more variable in quality, but Viva Hate and Vauxhall And I are probably the best. On the subject of other bands, are there any Tindersticks fans here? I first heard B&S mentioned on Marbles (the 'Sticks mailing list) about nine months ago, and I would image there's quite a crossover between fans. bye... James P.S. Oh, and happy new year! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Wed Dec 31 13:51:17 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 13:51:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister:/ dog on wheels In-Reply-To: <199712310110.BAA30620@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <199712311351.NAA09409@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> i was watching that too - mtv alternative nation - as id come home the the pub and was a tad bored.. first came up that 'did your heart go boom ' song ..and i thought ..really should get my special video to record this (i have a video i record all my fav music vids on) then cornershop ... doh i really wish id gone upstairs and got my video.. then the opening bars of dog on wheels .. argghhh so i raced up and managed to get 2.17 minutes of it.. hmm then jimi tenor came on .. then a scary aphex twin video and the smack my bitch vid.. stuart m is the only band memeber in the dog on wheels video. im quite sure in one shot it showed he was begining to go bald.. he wears a hat for most part of the promo. bye + happy new year jon > I was slouching on the sofa, watching MTV Alternative Nation. It was > playing Cornershop's ' Brimful of Asha on the 45 ' , which out of > interest is a good song. At the end of the record I began thinking, > > "Belle and Sebastian did a video for Lazy Line Painter Jane. It was > shown on the ITV Chart Show. I wish it would come up next" > > This is not something I usually think and to my utter amazement at > something that just couldn't be a coincidence, the opening tones of > ' Dog on Wheels ' came on!!!!! What are the chances of a Belle and > Sebastian video being shown at any time. It was so weird. First > Belle and Sebastian promo I have seen before. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Wed Dec 31 15:00:59 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 31 Dec 97 15:00:59 Subject: Sinister: Left Banke's "Something On My Mind" Message-ID: <9712311406.AA8216@notesgw.compuserve.com> Well Aadam, I couldn't resist the urge to do a little research on this, starting from the perspective of someone who knew nothing at all about Left Banke. I went to www.cdnow.com (an excellent site, BTW) and searched for Left Bank as an artist, found the correct spelling and a CD called "There's Gonna Be A Storm" on Polygram which says its the complete recordings 1966-69. And there's a track called "I've Got Something On My Mind". So there! It had a pretty harpischord backing (on B&S's version, anyway). Happy New Year all. Nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 14:28:34 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (alistair) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:28:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Birth of the 3rd Album? References: Message-ID: <34AA5692.70250899@mail.zynet.co.uk> > Anyone knows about the news of the up and coming album of Belle and > Seb > album? Is it going to be on Jeepster or on other labels? i expect katrina and david to be better equipped to answer this one but since they're without computer for a few days, here's what i know: yes the LP will be on jeepster, and it may or may not be preceeded by an EP with Modern Rock song... if the ep appears, it will likely have middle distance runner on it (hurrah!), so keep yer fingers crossed. LP should be finished recording next month if all goes according to plan, release probably march or thereabouts. hope i haven't spoken out of turn... duke. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 14:22:10 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (alistair) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 14:22:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sunday gig... oh yes References: <199712310200.CAA25013@sand.global.net.uk> <34A9CE08.1214@interaccess.com> Message-ID: <34AA5512.1F1EF485@mail.zynet.co.uk> Aadam wrote: > ***Rob B*** wrote: > > Does anyone have a set list for the sunday? As far as I can > > remember they did... something about matchstick men (?) > > A cover version of "Pictures Of Matchstick Men" the old Status Quo > song? duh, sorry, it was the one by... um, 'peter and michael' (?), something like that... dubious northern folkie types in dodgy novelty hit back in the 70s. all about Lowry. the painter, not the writer... a review of sunday coming sometime soon. i seem to have a hogmanay of sitting in with the computer lined up, so no excuses... the duke. listening again to old tapes discovered lurking in parent's attic: woodentops' 'good thing' sounds like that lost classic i always rather expected it to sound like after all these years. i feel fucking old and weird.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mgilham at xxx.edu Wed Dec 31 15:09:56 1997 From: mgilham at xxx.edu (Michael H Gilham) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:09:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: nottingham forest / dog on wheels In-Reply-To: <883574049.105180.0@jmorton.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, James Morton wrote: > On the subject of other bands, are there any Tindersticks > fans here? I first heard B&S mentioned on Marbles (the 'Sticks > mailing list) about nine months ago, and I would image there's > quite a crossover between fans. I would be one of the "Sticks" fans in residency that you've guessed are present ... I was able to see them here: Washington, District of Columbia, in October (my first time) .... cheers, --Michael Arlington, Virginia PS I really like The Smiths/Mozza as well! Steven and co. were great when I saw them here on the 2 area appearances they made on the recently completed North American Tour ... > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 15:18:01 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (***Rob B***) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:18:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian on the radio... Message-ID: <199712311518.PAA23144@sand.global.net.uk> wow - two b&s tracks on the radio within 24 hours - le pastie late last night, and now stars of track and field, no. 84 in Xfm's top 100 tunes ever - wonder if they'll feature again? love, rob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Wed Dec 31 14:44:00 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 09:44:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Left Banke's "Something On My Mind" References: <9712311406.AA8216@notesgw.compuserve.com> Message-ID: <34AA5A2C.5F8@interaccess.com> Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB wrote: > > Well Aadam, I couldn't resist the urge to do a little research on this, > starting from the perspective of someone who knew nothing at all about Left > Banke. I went to www.cdnow.com (an excellent site, BTW) and searched for Left > Bank as an artist, found the correct spelling and a CD called "There's Gonna Be > A Storm" on Polygram which says its the complete recordings 1966-69. And > there's a track called "I've Got Something On My Mind". So there! Boy do I feel like a dolt. That's the CD I have. I only skimmed the titles of the songs, and it's because I was not looking for "I've got" that I missed it. > It had a > pretty harpischord backing (on B&S's version, anyway). On the Left Banke's version too. It's a lovely song, but I prefer "Pretty Ballerina." > Aadam - Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Dec 31 16:39:17 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 16:39:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: stardust memories Message-ID: <34ab750e.3946899@email.mcmail.com> Hello boys and girls, A mad crazy delicious weekend, and somehow I don't seem capable of reviewing the gigs or anything, but here's a top 10 'moments' 1 All of our friends were there, and some new ones too - Paul 'Cigar Officionado' Mitchell (thanks for the tape), JJ (shortly but sweetly), Soozy, Pam, Stuart 'god you're tall' Gardiner' and Sarah. And the guy who reckons my mails are too long (cheeky fucker!). But nobody gets to meet the Duke. 2 'Modern Rock Song' and 'Slow Graffiti' 3 Staring up at the beautiful ceiling in the Town Hall during 'Seymour Stein' with a tear in my eye, thinking 'I'm really very happy indeed'. 4 David and Katrina being eminently lovable in the face of adversity 5 Half the band arriving at the aftershow when the place was already ludicrously packed, and having to pursuade the landlord that they HAD to come in, only to find myself on the pavement myself going 'err, I'm sorry about this' and feeling like a total fucking amateur. Sorry if anyone couldn't get in. 6 Keith 'All Smiles' Watson and 'naughty little sister' Susannah disco-dancing like mad young things on the stage at the Star and Garter 7 Julian playing Queen's 'Don't stop me now' on Sunday morning and hangover lifting instantly. 8 Chris G, with a bucket under his keyboards on Sunday cos he'd drunk too much on Saturday night. 'Oh, I've accidentally pulled my lead out'. Chris - you're a star. 9 Donovan Lovedrake! 10 Stevie saying 'see you in hell' to a heckler and sounding like Lucifer's child, Stuart saying 'oh my bowels' (or was it balls or bones) for no apparent reason. It was bloody good wasn't it? Happy New Year to you all. Love Kinky Tag xxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Dec 31 18:43:23 1997 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 10:43:23 -0800 Subject: Sinister: bonjour mes amies Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0307121A@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Hallo there, another newbie to the list. I wanted to take the time to say it's so much fun being in contact with so many other B&S fans; reading the gig reviews is especially interesting! I live in San Francisco and haven't had the opportunity to catch a live appearance yet... will I ever????? My other musical interests run in the typical Britpop vein, and tho Belle is something I've only gotten into over the past few months, I already find myself making compilation tapes for friends, saying "You've got to hear this!!" Have yet to meet any other B&S fans, even in this city reknowned for its Anglophilia (it is, isn't it?) but I look forward to receiving info on the band from all you good good people on the list:-) Regards and Happy New Year, btw! tara nicole ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Dec 31 21:06:08 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (alistair) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 21:06:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sunday in manchester References: <01bd1435$6b5819c0$LocalHost@dell> Message-ID: <34AAB3BF.8692ED92@mail.zynet.co.uk> hey ho folks, i'm sat here in the dullest recesses of troon, new years eve, cursing the fact that my inability to get up and back from glasgow means missing a Stevie performance and a chance to meet D & K again and tell them how great they are... sigh. instead i'm sat posting you all my story of the sunday evening show whilst listening to the BEat Patrol tape, (thanks PAul!!) which is entertainment at it's finest :-) a drink would be good though... sigh :-( 'see' you all in '98. keep the faith, the duke. ---------- manchester sunday ---------- Driving into and through Manchester for the first time I’m struck by the similarities to Glasgow, both in the Victorian architecture and in the street geography. At once it feels like a city of dreams, and the story of the venue being chosen for this show as a result of an early morning road trip by members of the band sparked by boredom makes perfect sense. Despite this, however, initial signs for success are not good. The bad karma surrounding David and Katrina’s van disaster casts a sour note, and Stuart David’s less than positive comments about both the stage set-up and the previous night’s show similarly cast doubts as to whether this is really all going to work out positively. However, after a few beers, Stuart and Isobel’s approval of my Postcard t-shirt, a bite of Stuart’s veggie burrito and an aborted attempt to play Star Wars Monopoly (abandoned due to Simpsons interest), things begin to look rather better. The arrival of Tim and Emily further lightens the mood, and more beer is naturally consumed. Allowing Stuart and Isobel to take our taxi into town (we figure they have more pressing business ), we step into the one they had ordered and head for the town hall after a brief check to see that the Square Albert is closed, we head right into the Town Hall, and straight to the bar. We meet several familiar faces from Union Chapel, including Mark, who is doing vox-pops for Q magazine. More of which later We totally miss Future Pilot, which is not altogether accidental, and have another beer and a chat. I am gobsmacked when David turns up and thrusts a wad of notes into my hand; payment for all the sold copies of the paper Belle Lettres all 46 copies sold where I had honestly been expecting to be lucky to sell ten. I spend a few minutes worrying about a flood of mail demanding refunds. We have a look at the stage and agree it is a thoroughly bizarre set-up in a thoroughly divine setting. Looking around the hall and foyer I am again struck by the similarity to Glasgow’s City Chambers and find myself happier than a sandboy for the fact that I am not standing in some crap traditional rock venue. Looking around the hall and foyer, there are a lot of smiling faces and a lot of young earnest boys. I prefer the smiling faces. Belle & Sebastian take the stage and with little fuss immediately embark on a delectable take on ‘Modern Rock Song’. If there were sound problems at the previous night’s show, they are clearly sorted, since the band sound like a beautiful sonic cathedral. Their Pop lineage is clearly illuminated in the first song, and is cemented by the perfect ‘State I Am In’, during which Stuart uncharacteristically forgets no words, and the band sounds uncannily like The Velvet Underground in their most melodic and rhythmic mood. Indeed this parallel is immediately highlighted when, during the first and longest of their now traditional extended periods of dithering, Stevie delivers an impromptu few lines of ‘I’ll Be Your Mirror’. Other between songs highlights include the take on ‘Matchstick Men’ and Stevie’s demonstration of the similarity between the riff of ‘Le Pastie De LA Bourgeoisie’ and the theme to Emmerdale. From Yummy Fur graffiti to bad TV shows it’s truly amazing where inspiration can come from. Many grumpy faces meet the between songs entertainment, but at least both Tim and I smile and delight in the pure un-rock’n’roll-ness of it all. Long may their ineptitude rule. Much less entertaining however is the slip in sparkle that accompanies a lacklustre ‘Seeing Other People’ and ‘Pastie’, although delight is wholeheartedly redelivered in the performance of the exquisite ‘Loneliness Of The Middle Distance Runner’. Stuart tells us later that if they had managed to get a good recording of the song it would have been an EP lead track, but as it is may only just sneak out if the Modern Rock Song EP happens. Cross your fingers, kids. After ‘Loneliness’ comes more glorious highlights in the shape of ‘She’s Losing It’, a truly exquisite ‘Seymour Stein’, ‘Century of Elvis’ complete with Stuart David reading from his little notebook and a couple of new songs of unknown title. It comes as no little delight in fact to discover my own biggest heartflutters coming from the new tunes, and as Tim indeed points out, not since the days of The Claim has he been more excited by new songs than old at a show. I heartily agree. But speaking of heartflutters, the biggest and best comes when Isobel steps up to the mic and the strains of Orange Juice’s ‘In A Nutshell’ creep across the tracery of the Town Hall ceiling. Belle & Sebastian perform cover versions with some irregularity, but choose and deliver them with such amazing class and poise that I can only stand and dumbly grin at the perfection of the reference points. I am genuinely transfixed by Isobel as she sings, backed by Stevie’s magic ‘sha sha sha’s, and I find myself hoping that everyone here will at the very least determine to go and discover the original for themselves. And so it goes. When the lights go up, applause rings out, the lights start coming up and Tim turns and says, simply, ‘they don’t, do they?’, to which I reply ‘I certainly hope not’. In the bar foyer we bump into Mark again, who is poised with his tape recorder doing his vox-pops. Stupidly I insist that both Tim and I get to participate, but all I can think of to say is that Belle & Sebastian are ‘our generation’s Velvet Underground. And Orange Juice. And that is all. Even more stupidly I actually tell the truth about both my age and occupation I sincerely hope the photo does not come out. After this embarrassing moment we trail out slowly, saying goodbyes, and a few hellos as well to Andy, who attests to the improvement between Saturday and Sunday, and Beth, who arrived late and is still apparently shaken after train hassles. It’s all very rushed and I wish we all had longer to chat, but food beckons, and it’s getting late. After show we sit and argue about the egalitarianism of Pop versus Telly and the positive or negative nature of Belle & Sebastian’s between song ineptitude whilst eating Chinese. Later we head back to the hotel, drink more beer, feel sorry that David and Katrina have had such a stressful time, have a good old natter and eventually hit bed around 3am. By 9am we are back in our car and heading out again on the second leg on our journey to Scotland. Which is where I am now writing this new years’ eve. It’s been an amazing year. I can’t even begin to think what the next is going to bring, but whatever does transpire, I know that the magic that was Belle & Sebastian in 1997 will stay with me forever. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Dec 31 15:57:55 1997 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 15:57:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: manchester scrapbook Message-ID: <01bd1604$dbed8aa0$f93363c3@dell> send you manchester stories to me for a fab webpage. i need loads more sundays (matinee + evening) please - it will be wicked when done. From leslie.chinea at xxx.com Tue Dec 30 18:54:00 1997 From: leslie.chinea at xxx.com (leslie chinea) Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 18:54:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Civic pride Message-ID: <00004859.4556@emimusic.com> Subject: Sinister: Civic pride Author: Nick Dastoor Wrote: >>>> Mick Cooke's very handsome, isn't he? Yeah, that he sure is! Thanks for bringing back memories of B&S performing live at the NYC gigs and visions of that fine-young-trumpet-playing angel. Sigh, Leslie. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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