From Iain at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 05:18:49 1997 From: Iain at xxx.uk (Iain Meakin) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 05:18:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manics are cool Message-ID: <01BCE817.FE0EB5C0@chkymnky.demon.co.uk> > ".......and countless other > products of the genius that was Richey James in 1994. ... and he supports Forest ! Yeah ! 2- 0 ! to the Nottingham ! Sorry. Iain. Forest fan. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ianmacdonald at xxx.net Sat Nov 1 08:06:25 1997 From: ianmacdonald at xxx.net (Ian MacDonald) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 08:06:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: knocky doory night Message-ID: <199711010811.IAA05959@boober.lineone.net> Peering back through the mists of time to the days of my brattish youth , I am reminded of the legendary Knocky Doory nights. Nobody else I've ever met has ever heard of it but basically the night before Halloween was the night all the local delinquents had the right to knock on neighbours doors and then run away. B&S are obviously aware of Knocky Doory night ! I have this vision of 8 fully formed adults sniggering behind a hedgerow whilst the MAN stands at the door mystified. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Nov 1 09:46:23 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 09:46:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle, Sebastian and the Pastels References: <345A2768.2E6B@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <345AFA6F.E0217466@mail.zynet.co.uk> Walter wrote: > I've just read this in a french fanzine (Crême > Anglaise, there's also an interview > of Stuart David and Chris Geddes in it...) > Stephen, of The Pastels, is answering a question > about his hobbies : > > " I'm working in a library. I'm doing some > writing also. I'm actually qoing to do > a book with Stuart Murdoch of Belle and > Sebastian. We're going to tell the story > of Glasgow music from Orange Juice. It may be a > book, but it will probably end > up as a pamphlet! To both of us Orange Juice was > a really important thing. i find this quite amusing, since in the first Juniper Beri Beri's (Stephens fanzine of early 80s) he was a bit disparaging of the whole Postcard thing. Quite satirical if i remember correctly (and i could tell you for sure if i could get my coies of 1 & 2 back from the 'friend' who borrowed them seven or so years ago... by the way thanks at Andreas for the copy of #3). Also, stephen said in an letter back in around '88 in response to some research i was doing about fanzines for my dissertation, that although they rated Postcard way above the other Glasgow stuff like Simple Minds etc they were always a bit earnest for their (stephen and co) tastes. Maybe this confuses the Postcard thing with just Orange Juice, but then to so many people in so many respects, the OJs WERE Postcard. Would make an interesting book though... wonder if they'll mention The Dolphins? Oh yeah, and actually Kevin Pearce was in the process of writing the definitive book about Postcard and associated bands but he shelved it after writing many chapters of insightful and cutting prose. It would have been a brilliant book... i wonder if we can tempt him into finishing it? I doubt it somehow... ah well. i'm off to start writing my own book of pop music insights. ha ha. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From g.gregorini at xxx.it Sat Nov 1 10:19:59 1997 From: g.gregorini at xxx.it (Giuseppe Gregorini) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 11:19:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: 3,6,9 Message-ID: <01bce6af$b5299dc0$af55cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Thanks God I received 3,6,9. I don't remember if anyone wrote about the Monochrome Set influence in "La pastie.." It really reminds me of "Jet Set junta". 3,6,9 starts with some hint of the Velvets and grows every time I listen to it. They're still in a state of grace. I'm quite happy. Giuseppe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From aadam at xxx.com Sat Nov 1 09:55:36 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 04:55:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Celebrating Sarah References: <01bce6af$a582a880$af55cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Message-ID: <345AFC98.2282@interaccess.com> Giuseppe Gregorini wrote: > am I the only one who > bought Saropoly on this list? I bought it, but I never played it. Maybe someday with that special someone... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Nov 1 14:35:09 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 14:35:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Here you go then... References: Message-ID: <345B3E1D.628C6266@mail.zynet.co.uk> R.E.W. Butler wrote: > Pocketbook angel > ---------------- > 'Cos here she comes again > Oh I saw her just yesterday > She looked at me in a certain way > 'Cos she's a pocketbook angel > And I know she fakes the limp > 'Cos I saw her in Littlewoods > Well she was buying some frozen food > She just wants to be giving i thought it was 'she just wants to be goofy'. i like that better... > She told me over tea > She's not working for another boss > She got fired but it wasn't a loss 'but it was their loss' i reckon is nearer! > That's my interpretation of the words anyway - > there are probably mistakes > in it, but it's close enough. and that's my interpretation of your interpretation of the words!! i wonder if that line about being goofy is right or wrong :-) keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Nov 1 15:25:36 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 15:25:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: little ink movies References: <80256542.003D8FD8.00@bull.co.uk> Message-ID: <345B49EF.2466482B@mail.zynet.co.uk> Andrew.Dean at BULL.NET wrote: > duke: > >Chris is wearing 'metallic sky blue nail > polish'. > >Nice to know that others are following the > >manifesto as set down by the Living Room > >Collective back in April ;-) > > chris was wearing nail polish at the borderline > gig last > november. well i was actually also wearing it ages ago, before i was even born in fact, it just took a while for us to formally declare it as part of our Agenda For Change. and i remember this wee ned coming up to me in glasgow once actually and going 'hey man, i like your nail polish'. he was wearing a Star Wars t-shirt. i told him to fuck off and join a pop group. dunno what ever happened to him, but he probably overdosed on jellies like all they eedjits frae Johnstone. > andy > bubbles burst while-u-wait 8) my bubble is NEVER gonna burst, it's impregnable, man... > i'm now on page 25 and the people here at work > are looking > at me and wondering why i'm laughing. page 25: 'You can't touch me mate, i'm on british soil' and 'Quick, put Mark Jones' room number on it'. (perhaps David & Katrina could try the same jape for getting a new computer...) cheerio. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Sat Nov 1 19:41:17 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 19:41:17 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: NME article Message-ID: For those of you not out having a good time on a Saturday night, but staying in and sniffing, if there's anyone else out there with the same interests as me :) ... I just had the privilege to read last week's NME "interview" with B&S and laughed my socks off. I think it's disgraceful that a band such as B&S should not show due respect to the people who put them there, the creative artists who run the literate and sophisticated music press of this country. As a measure of protest against the band's appalling behaviour I will be shutting down this mailing list until they apologise in person. Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Sat Nov 1 20:42:25 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 97 20:42:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: On the trail of Tigermilk.... Message-ID: <971101204225.n0004482.tormentor@mail.clara.net> So, after getting more obsessed with Belle&Sebastian as each day passes I decided to try and track down a copy of Tigermilk.. I mean (I asked myself) How hard can it really be? I live in London with a whole plethora of record shops, I'll find a dusty old copy somewhere no problem. 1.30 pm Berwick Street ,Soho If you can't find a record on Berwick Street where can you? Just been paid, money burning a hole in my pocket, don't care how much the thing costs.. First stop , Reckless Records: Second hand exchange emporium . Start browsing through 'B', hopes are high at this point, but nothing apart from Blondie and Bauhaus, so I check out the 'Rarities ' and picture discs on the wall, but no luck. Finally ask the guy behind the counter to check on the computer, he takes a few minutes and then says" yeh, Tigermilk..?" My eyes light up for a second, until he adds "we last had a copy in August 1996" and how much?? "�4.99" Blimey !! 2.15pm Enter Selectadisc. Come across 12"s of LLPJ and Dog on Wheels. Remember that Dog on Wheels is now deleted on Vinyl, and I only have it on CD, so stick that under my arm (I'm sad like that) and wonder off to look at the back catalogue section. Spend half an hour looking through badly produced fanzines and finally leave with The Sundays new album, Dog on Wheels and something else.... oh yeh, the Beatles White album complete with lyric/poster sheet and posters of the fab four. 3.15pm Right, this is where things get serious. Sister Ray Records. March up straight away to the counter and declare "do you have , or have ever had (and here comes the clever bit) OR KNOW ANYWHERE I CAN GET a copy of Tigermilk by Belle&Sebastian?????? The friendly and helpful assistant takes to his computer..... and returns to the counter to declare: " Six months ago we had one, but it will cost you....�40" So we're getting nearer! Six months ago now, but the price has gone up tenfold too. Pay for She hangs brightly by Mazzy Star at �6.99 (pleased about that one) and move on 4.15pm Grubby old second hand shop where you get black fingers from fingering the racks. No Belle&Sebastian whatsoever but the assistant offers to ring round a whole host of second hand shops in London on my behalf. I thumb through the seven inchers while waiting (for what seems like hours) but don't find anything of interest... He gets back to me to inform me that he knew of one sold ONLY three months ago for �75 *gulp* but since then the price has been escalating out of control, and you can get a holiday in the South of France for less! Spend Two whole pounds and fifty pence on New Order Peel sessions and decide to call it a day. But I'm not finished yet. NEXT WEEK: MANCHESTER. susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Sat Nov 1 21:56:45 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 21:56:45 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: <971101204225.n0004482.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, susannah wrote: > So, after getting more obsessed with Belle&Sebastian as each day passes I > decided to try and track down a copy of Tigermilk.. > I mean (I asked myself) How hard can it really be? I live in London with a whole > plethora of record shops, I'll find a dusty old copy somewhere no problem. Susannah, you're a hero. I don't rate your chances but I'm very impressed - keep the journal coming. Meanwhile: here's a stupid idea. It always seems to me that a reasonably surprising number of people on this list hint at having a copy (and you're all too polite to brag, but you want to, go on). So how many of the 1000 copies can we track down? There's 322 people on the list but Susannah and I don't have a copy so that brings it down to 320 so far... So for anyone with a real vinyl copy, or who KNOWS anyone with a copy, let us know: 1. Owner name, location (not house number or I'll break in) 2. Where you got it 3. Are they individually numbered, in which case tell us your serial number 4. Coffee-stains, scratches that tell a tale Send all this to the list with the subject "TIGERMILK REGISTER" and I'll set up a Tigermilk register on the WWW page... Impress your friends! Rung rings around your insurance company! While I'm here two other things: 1. Someone mentioned the Ink Polaroids competition - some of the judges have judged honestly so your efforts haven't been forgotten! I suspect the hold-up is the problem David and Katrina are having with their PC but watch this space... 2. The search page on the Sinister WWW page below is NOW working PROPERLY. Not spewing out gallons of rubbish when you search by full text. Sorry to anyone who wasted their time before. Have to dash - scrumptiously scarey Mogwai LP to listen to and Bev is just pouring her first G&T for Ange on BBC2... (non-UK readers get an extra prize for recognising this one..) Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Nov 1 21:22:23 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 01 Nov 1997 21:22:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Rough Guide References: <34588F66.78C06DD2@colon.net.> Message-ID: <345B9D8F.7AEE38F5@mail.zynet.co.uk> trawling through my files of 'pop' writing today i came across the following, penned as an introduction to the band for several year 11 kids who wanted tapes and badges... um, i've altered it a little for this. hope you enjoy it, even if it is a little wordy :-) keep the faith, duke --------------- Belle & Sebastian. A Pocket History. Stuart was a boy from Glasgow. He wrote songs and poems in his head about the people he saw in the city, and these songs and poems were Great. One day he played his songs for some underground pop stars at a party and the pop stars looked embarrassed. So he resolved to get some people to make a band to support him. He walked the streets of Glasgow and asked strangers to be in his band. Soon he was so notorious around the West End that people would cross the street when they saw him approaching. At this time too he wrote some stories about a boy called Sebastian, and a girl called Belle. He travelled in buses a lot. Glasgow is a good city to travel around by bus because it rains a lot. Eventually Stuart got fed up, and decided to enrol the first six people who came into the café which he used to frequent. Thus, the group that he would call Belle & Sebastian were formed. (This part of the myth of Belle & Sebastian is recorded in a very delightful cartoon.) When they had practised a bit, Belle & Sebastian played some shows in a recording studio. About four people watched them. Shortly after this they played regularly at the café at which they had met, and at the Art School, which welcomed them with open arms. Slowly, Glasgow started to realise that another gem was nestling in it’s grey streets. The first Belle & Sebastian record was made as part of Stuart’s college course, and was released in early 1996. It was called ‘Tigermilk’ and the cover showed a picture of a naked young lady, apparently breast-feeding a stuffed toy ‘Tigger’. Only 1000 records were made and they sold out very quickly thanks to them being asked onto the Radio One ‘Mark Radcliffe’ show, for which they recorded some more songs. The ‘Tigermilk’ record now sells for up to £250 a go. Which is stupid, but there you go. In November 1996 the band released their second LP, and it’s still available, on CD too! Called ‘If You’re Feeling Sinister’, it was the best record of the year for loads of people. Loads of people with taste, that is. The group started 1997 by playing sell out shows in Glasgow and Edinburgh, and a couple in London. They released a single, ‘Dog On Wheels’ in May, and it made the lower end of the Top 75. Then in July they released the excellent ‘Lazy Line Painter Jane’ single, which entered the charts at 41. In July they also played the infamous Union Chapel show, a show which sold out several months before it happened and to which a throng of Popstars (stand up Jarvis Cocker!!) and media types flocked. The Big Serious newspapers were unanimous in their praise, and with Select magazine voting them into a close second place in the battle of Next Big Thing, everyone who knew what was what was suddenly saying the name Belle & Sebastian. In September they went to New York, where they recorded a TV show and played some sell out shows to great acclaim. More famous Popstars were seen at these shows (step up ‘alternative rock’ stars Mark Eitzel and Pavement!), and the word is that all of New York was talking about them. Well they did get a good review in the New York Times, so that’s something! They were described as being something like, or rather, totally NOT like Oasis, which is about as good as it gets, surely? An Evening Session show on Radio One was aired in late September, and the third single called ‘3 6 9 Seconds Of Light’ rocked the charts at number 32. As a result of this success the NME attempted to get an interview and were given amusingly short shrift. Their fans wonder if people in school will really like them or if they’ll just say they sound like wimps. Secretly they hope they’ll do both. Oh yeah, and the underground popstars who looked embarrassed when Stuart played his songs at their party now sell far fewer records than Belle & Sebastian, but pretend they have known and loved them from the start there may be a moral here but I’m damned if I know what it is. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Sun Nov 2 10:15:07 1997 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: 2 Nov 1997 10:15:07 GMT Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <68DC7A34.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> > So for anyone with a real vinyl copy, or who KNOWS anyone with a copy, let > us know: > > 1. Owner name, location (not house number or I'll break in) > 2. Where you got it > 3. Are they individually numbered, in which case tell us your serial > number > 4. Coffee-stains, scratches that tell a tale Well I have one so thats Steve Genge in sunny Portsmouth & you may as well break in as the guy in the upstairs flat bust the front door last night and has left blood all the way up the stairs :o( Remember kids if you're gonna get very drunk remember your door keys! I got mine from HMV in Portsmouth via the fact that someone phoned me up and told me Vital distribution had I think 100 to sell so got on the phone straightaway. I must apologise for the fact that if I didn't work at said HMV I wouldn't have got one. Apparently Vital sold out in a day :o( I think as well that no other HMV in the country got one so yes I feel suitably humble. The person who told me they had them gave her copy away! No distinguishing numbers as far as I can see. Eek there appears to be a hefty scratch on one side which doesn't affect the sound though. Due to the fact I one day decided to see whether you still get dizzy as you get older (don't ask) and after spinning round & round for a while bumped into my record player. As you can tell there's not much to do in Portsmouth :o) I'll say now if anyone still wants a tape of Tigermilk email me & we'll sort something out. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 2 15:07:18 1997 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (Simon Collins) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 15:07:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Register - IVE GOT ONE !! Message-ID: Ha HA! I have a copy of Tigermilk, it cost me 8 pounds and i spent weeks trying to get the address of the people i had to write to ( thank you Mark Radcliffe ) . Its in the brown cardboard sleeve they sent it to me in. After I got it they also wrote me a couple of letters ( signed by B&S) which was nice. No coffee stains, and i wont know the serial number until i go home and see it again. ( which is in Aberdeen ) I also have all the posters for the 3 singles. Some people think i'm obsessive. Does anyone have a full copy of the Mark Lamarr session they did ? I dhave the songs but only poor copies ( i didnt have a very good recorder in those days.) Er , I hope i havent made too much of an arse of myself. Simon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From initgrl at xxx.org Sun Nov 2 15:13:17 1997 From: initgrl at xxx.org (jj heldmann) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 10:13:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: <68DC7A34.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: On 1 Oct 125, Steve Genge wrote: > affect the sound though. Due to the fact I one day decided to see > whether you still get dizzy as you get older (don't ask) and after > spinning round & round for a while bumped into my record player. I think that you get dizzier as you get older. At least I do/did. When I was like 5, that used to be how I would "dance" - I'd stand in a spot in the living room and just spin and spin and spin. I don't remember getting particularly dizzy. As I got older, I added the exciting tummy-lurching-upwards-as-if-on-a-roller-coaster sensation by after spinning for a few minutes, tilting my head to one side...I think if i tried that now I'd hurl for sure. And what the heck does that have to do with b&s...nothing...but I did get a friend to buy a used copy of Sinister yesterday at the record shop. Haven't heard if she loves it as much as she should yet. jj ******************************************** fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa www.mindspring.com/~initialgirl/fantastic ******************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Sun Nov 2 16:25:33 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 16:25:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Saropoly!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <01bce6af$a582a880$af55cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971102162533.0069013c@mail.u-net.com> > I think we should celebrate this day. We could organize a Saropoly >on-line tournament (am I the only one who bought Saropoly on this >list?).:-) "". Bye Giuseppe NO no no! I actually lived in Bristol at the time when Sarah became REALLY popular (Clare used to come round my house to give me CHOCOLATE LOVE SEX t shirts, that sort of thing) and I actually bought 2 Saropoly's, you know, one to keep the other to play that sort of thing.... GRATE stuff. Bristol was lovely and romantic back then, I haven't been there since 1994 so I don't know what it's like now.... JJ x ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Sun Nov 2 18:21:10 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 19:21:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle, Sebastian and the Pastels References: <345A2768.2E6B@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <345CC495.A67A6979@colon.net.> Walter wrote: > I've just read this in a french fanzine (Crême Anglaise, > there's also an interview > of Stuart David and Chris Geddes in it...) > Stephen, of The Pastels, is answering a question about his > hobbies : > > " I'm working in a library. I'm doing some writing also. > I'm actually qoing to do > a book with Stuart Murdoch of Belle and Sebastian. We're > going to tell the story > of Glasgow music from Orange Juice. It may be a book, but > it will probably end > up as a pamphlet! To both of us Orange Juice was a really > important thing. We > are very close to each other in Glasgow, we have so many > things in common..." > > Well, I guess you already knew everything... It's just my > modest contribution to > the mailing-list... > Well this is one of the many things I didn't already know, so thanks to Walter. I await the book with baited breath. Which of our two heroes is going to tackle the prickly subject of the rise and rise of Del Amitri? Will Hue and Cry get a look in? I hope there's a section on pop star eating habits. You can tell when someone's going to make it big when you see peeled prawns in their Safeway trolley and they start to cover their faces on the underground. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Sun Nov 2 19:02:41 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 20:02:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Register - IVE GOT ONE !! References: Message-ID: <345CCE51.F01ABB03@colon.net.> Simon Collins wrote: > Ha HA! I have a copy of Tigermilk, it cost me 8 pounds and > i spent weeks trying to get the > address of the people i had to write to ( thank you Mark > Radcliffe ) . Its in the brown cardboard > sleeve they sent it to me in. After I got it they also > wrote me a couple of letters ( signed by B&S) > which was nice. No coffee stains, and i wont know the > serial number until i go home and see it > again. ( which is in Aberdeen ) I also have all the > posters for the 3 singles. Some people think > i'm obsessive. > > Does anyone have a full copy of the Mark Lamarr session > they did ? I dhave the songs but only > poor copies ( i didnt have a very good recorder in those > days.) > > Er , I hope i havent made too much of an arse of myself. > > Simon. > You've made yourself look like a complete plonker, Simon. Eight quid?!!! I got mine for bugger all, but I've made a complete twat of myself by managing to lose the press release thingy that came with it. So it's only worth 250 smackers instead of 400 million or something. No coffee stains, but the cover is creased, which probably drastically reduces its financial value. It's only been played once, not due to my fanatical record collector habits, but because I haven't got a record player. I've got it on a poor quality tape that I've listened to once and a half. I've got two Elton John CDs and last week I sent a letter to William "the" Hague. I break wind profusely. It occurred to me the other day that all the members of Belle and Sebastian must have copies (keeping count, Paul?) so that might be why they don't want to rereleases it. So that their own copies are worth billions and billons of petrodollars What dispicable behaviour! I applaud them for it. Peter Scumbag. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Sun Nov 2 18:38:45 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 19:38:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle, Sebastian and the Pastels References: <345A2768.2E6B@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <345AFA6F.E0217466@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <345CC8B4.CA60D9F1@colon.net.> duke of harringay wrote: > Oh yeah, and actually Kevin Pearce was in the > process of writing the definitive book about > Postcard and associated bands but he shelved it > after writing many chapters of insightful and > cutting prose. It would have been a brilliant > book... i wonder if we can tempt him into > finishing it? I doubt it somehow... > Well if not, how about persuading him to donate a few snippets for your website? I'd certainly be interested. Sad and pathetic though it may seem, I went to live in Glasgow largely under the influence of OJ and postcard. Even went to the trouble of living on the same street. Now I live near the mother of "The Tigress" - convicted terrorist and maneater. She looks worried all the time. The mother, that is. > ah well. i'm off to start writing my own book of > pop music insights. ha ha. > I look forward to it. My own Postcard related pop insight for the day is that I'm beginning to like the new Edwyn Collins LP. At first I thought it was shit except for the Mark E. Smith collaboration, but now I'm beginning to get the hang of the rest of it. It's still a long way from Orange Juice though. I haven't read the NME interview, but it sounds good. The last thing that really got my goat in the NME was when the interviewer openly lambasted The Fugees for speaking to each other in their own dialect. With interviewers of that pedigree on board..... Having said that, they've been fairly nice to B&S so far. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Sun Nov 2 21:29:49 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 21:29:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: <345C9446.F7BF3BDE@virgin.net> Message-ID: TIGERMILK count just to let you know I'm keeping my fingers busy in a responsible manner: Definite spottings: jj (1), Steve (1), David and Katrina (2), Mark Jones (3), Stef (1), Simon (1), Peter (1) "Last seens": Jennifer from Austin, Texas who one the competition (1), and 25 slimey journalists who probably left them on radiators. So thats a total of 10 with 26 possibles. 1%. Nearly there. Has anyone HAD a cold which has left them struggling between a bed and a sofa for 2 weeks? I've got extentenuating circumstances (don't start me as I'll bore you to tears: Peter Miller made that mistake..:) but this is getting ridiculous. Finally PLEASE use my search engine on the WWW pages and make my time lying around on a sofa worthwhile. Even if you're just going to search for rude words in people's postings. In fact this is the best use probably: spotting who swears most in email. You can even search for rude *phrases* now. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-bin/sinister-search.cgi Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Nov 2 21:59:27 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 2 Nov 1997 21:59:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: SINISTER:hello, lots of stuff here actually! Message-ID: Hi everyone! I'm a new listee, how do you all? And do I feel young now..er, can I ask something please? what's Sarapoly? Sorry, I haven't got the best of Sarah records, even tho' i did think some of you were talking about me, coz thats my name, Sarah! And does anyone know anything about the manchester gigs? i haven't seen B&S live yet...and I need to! Oh, and to whoever said Steven wells NME gets on their nerves, Lucy was it, sorry, my memory is, durr!, i think he's a great thing actually. He does my head in sometimes, but he's a good writer, makes you pay attention to what he writes, and always has a point to what he says, in his own words, a 'snotty middle class punk poet wanker', ..or something! He's the only interesting writer in NME these days, I MUCH prefer MM, better variety of writers, articles, funnier 'humourous' section, eg diary of the manics fan! But James Oldham! Didn't he just remind you of a boy whose mum wouldn't let him at the ginger hobnobs! I thought that was really immature writing for him. Oh well, that was the end of my first post! BTW, have not got Little Ink Movies/polaroids due to spending money on my BRILLIANT fanzine, called FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM, all contributions welcome, which I might as well plug here! I sent a questionnaire to B&S ages ago, but so far, no reply..oh well. I am trying to be Zen-like about it..I'd love one now so I could just say up yours to the NME! Lovehearts and stars and just coincidentally finished reading CITR-- Sarah! **************************** FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! **************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 00:17:06 1997 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: 3 Nov 1997 00:17:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At some point today JJ wrote: > I think that you get dizzier as you get older. At least I do/did. When I > was like 5, that used to be how I would "dance" I think that's how I still do "dance" :o) If anyone's interested a friend of mine found a 7" copy of Dog On Wheels in Brighton yesterday for 1.99 so they're still out there if you look hard enough. She also found two lovely coats & some trousers but I'm sure that's not connected? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 00:16:59 1997 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: 3 Nov 1997 00:16:59 GMT Subject: Sinister: Saropoly Message-ID: <68DC7531.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> Ok, the story of Saropoly - Once upon a much maligned record label in Bristol known as Sarah Records decided for their 50th release they would do something a little different and created their own board game. Well folded paper & card counters game to be exact & in this game you were the head honcho of various "indie" labels (4AD, Creation, Factory Virgin) & your task was to make a Sarah 7" EP complete with poster, wrap around sleeve & plastic bag. This you did by speeding around various locations on the board based on Bristol. Further rules can be explained but frankly it's way past my bedtime. Everyone bought two copies one to play with & the other to clutch fondly to their indie pop hearts. I think I've played it twice, never one & also had the indignity of having to be Alan McGee :o) Maybe a new version could be devised where you play an NME "journalist" or photographer & you following top pop band around various Glasgow locations. The winner being whoever gets the most bitter, twisted & pompous by the end of the game? Apologies if you've already seen half this posting but I'm convinced my crappy computer ate it earlier? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From goldenboy at xxx.net Mon Nov 3 03:24:36 1997 From: goldenboy at xxx.net (jason) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 13:24:36 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Sinister In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971103132436.0092eb30@mail.adelaide.on.net> unsubscribe sinister Fiona Sprott//writer fionas at ngapartji.com.au "I write about sex, sure, but none of my characters ever get any, so No, it's not my own perverse outlet. Understand?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From patrick at xxx.net Mon Nov 3 05:49:19 1997 From: patrick at xxx.net (stinger) Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 21:49:19 -0800 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER References: <68DC7A34.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <345D65DF.1041@nothingbutnet.net> Steve Genge wrote: > > > So for anyone with a real vinyl copy, or who KNOWS anyone with a copy, let > > us know: > > > > 1. Owner name, location (not house number or I'll break in) Oakland, California. > > 2. Where you got it I bought it off of a girl who shops at the record store I used to work at. I was talking with her about the band and she said she had one, so I told her I'd pay her $50 for it any time she wanted to sell it. Two months later she did for $30. Can't remember why the price changed. In a sickning revalation I found out that the previous September (before I knew who the band were) the store had sold one for the unbeatalble low price of $4.95. That sickened me but not as much as the owner who gouges people $100 for Big Black's banned "Headache" EP and $300 for Spanish picture sleeve Ramones 45s. > > 3. Are they individually numbered, in which case tell us your serial > > number > > 4. Coffee-stains, scratches that tell a tale > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 09:17:44 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:17:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER Message-ID: aka My deepest darkest secret... I have a copy of Tigermilk and, gulp, I've scratched it! Just a little bit in the middle of State I am In - only my most favourite song ever. I'm really sorry, I know some of you are probably thinking "How could he be so stupid" but it was an accident. I was playing it non-stop on my knackered record player and it happened. I really do feel bad, I mean I'm so lucky to have a copy at all and look what I do to it. It's like a religious icon, a knuckle bone of St Frideswide or a geometry set of St Ignatius - rare stuff that should be treasured. I am not worthy. But I did tape it before I knackered it. And as my penance for my crass hamfistedness I'd gladly make a copy of it. hot love john xxx PS can we start a JJ register - there seem to be loads of us? JJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 09:51:16 1997 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 09:51:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER Message-ID: <199711030951.JAA21020@brookes.ac.uk> My mate Paul has a copy, and I've had it in my sweaty palms, and played it on my stereo, with it's new turntable. It was ace. He bought it from a shop in London, it now lives in Oxford, and he paid the massively inflated and ridiculous price of #195, yes, he's the one !!! It was sold over a 'phone auction' so no-one except the shop owner knew what anyone else bid. There were about 20 bids put in, but no-one was stupid enough to beat Paul's #195. It is in mint condition though, and looks beautiful. How many does that make then ? Are we up to 0.1% yet ? Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 10:26:33 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:26:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: On the trail of Tigermilk.... Message-ID: <199711031024.KAA15561@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > -----Original Message----- > From: susannah [SMTP:susannah at xxx.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 1997 8:42 PM > To: B&S > Subject: Sinister: On the trail of Tigermilk.... > > > But I'm not finished yet. > NEXT WEEK: MANCHESTER. > > susannah at tormentor.clara.net > [Hopkins T] Good luck. But I tried in MAnc the other week, so if you mail back and find one, I shall be really quite sad. TimH begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(B(*`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0 at 36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02``0`L````4D4Z(%-I M;FES=&5R.B!/;B!T:&4@=')A:6P@;V8 at 5&EG97)M:6QK+BXN+@!K#@$)@`$` M(0```#1&-44V,4-$,D0U-$0Q,3%"-$(X,#!!,$,Y-$)&-S%"`#L'`2"``P`. M````S0<+``,`"@`4`!\``0`@`0$%@`,`#@```,T'"P`#``H`&@`A``$`*`$! 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M1T4M+2TM+4923TTZ4U5304Y.04A33510.E-54T%.3D%(0%1/4DU%3E1/4D-, K05)!3D544T5.5#I305154D1!62Q.3U9%34)%4C`Q+#$Y.3 > -----Original Message----- > From: Honey [SMTP:psm at xxx.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 01, 1997 9:57 PM > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER > So for anyone with a real vinyl copy, or who KNOWS anyone with a copy, > let > us know: > > 1. Owner name, location (not house number or I'll break in) > 2. Where you got it > 3. Are they individually numbered, in which case tell us your serial > number > 4. Coffee-stains, scratches that tell a tale > [Hopkins T] Well, I don't have one (sniff) but a copy definitely belongs to someone named Charlotte who lives somewhere in deepest Leeds 6. She bought it for knid of normal LP price (so I guess ?9 or something) in Jumbo records in Leeds. Because it's not mine, I don't know any funny stories. I'll try and find some for you. I do know that she once told me that there was nothing I could offer her to make her part from it. Not even violence;-). So there's my contribution. TimH begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(A(*`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0 at 36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02``0`A````4D4Z(%-I M;FES=&5R.B!424=%4DU)3$L at 4D5'25-415(`R0D!"8`!`"$````U,C5%-C%# M1#)$-31$,3$Q0C1".#`P03!#.31"1C`,`"@!R8W!G,3(UTC(`^S,V`>@@`J0#XPD" M`&-H"L!S970P'B`'$P*#`%`05G!R<=XR$5D.4`/5$65]"H`(R.P at .PEO#C`U M%7\*8`*`V0J!=6,`4`L#8P!!"V#B;@X0,#,S"Z<*L0J$\PJ$"S!L:0\Q&,$: M`0-@"G0%D'01Y#$V("WU'-)/!1!G"X`'0`70!Y#P2PQ![!O=F4&T`20(#`",2<`,3DY-R`Y)#HU*"!0324G5&_7(@<`D`,`3LA9&DS$&3Z M=0=`;#WP.>0)@"<`"X#_,_$-X#*`.,`YL1P`(T$V<=\\407`$1`'(AH4($'P M.>2]&A0T-\`(4`$@">`M*C#]"W%S)P`$\2:0(Q$$(#)P_R:00%0RH`&0->`: M&QC2##+7+O`W2D(Q@$E09PI0!!(G8;PS.3/"3/(R<`N`9TK`_3^!2CGQ,8`6X`6A4)$_ M@?=08S?`&A1"!9`BH#FQ(O#^)P0 at .4(CT#(@23 at VHC'2^3&0=6Y9\2HP!;`( MD%<1^3J#='(]\`!P3;!+L4VP]TSR,9,\42X:%$E2681$H]YS40$"(%-A3,!L M3;!<4?M$I#P#=T`@6&)5,DE!!:!_(K!20D-`!<`\`4RR`,!K_S(P8;(*L5&Q M`V$\P3?`)R#]!4!E)T`#H#,0!O`)\%-@^#LM*5SU&A0Q<5^S6$'^;3WP!:`" M,`402N$X\5SP?S"R&]<2T%% M```!`````0`````````>`!"`""`&``````#`````````1@`````XA0```0`` M``$``````````P`F```````#`(`0_____P(!^3\!````=`````````#``@0`0```&4````M+2TM+4]2 M24=)3D%,34534T%'12TM+2TM1E)/33I0055,34E40TA%3$Q33510.DU)5$-( M14Q,0%!(141!0U5+4T5.5#I305154D1!62Q.3U9%34)%4C`Q+#$Y.3 > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta [SMTP:oc245d8aff at xxx.net] > Sent: Sunday, November 02, 1997 7:03 PM > To: B&S mailing list > Subject: Re: Sinister: Tigermilk Register - IVE GOT ONE !! > > It occurred to me the other day that all the members of > Belle and Sebastian must have copies (keeping count, Paul?) > so that might be why they don't want to rereleases it. So > that their own copies are worth billions and billons of > petrodollars > [Hopkins T] I may be suffering from false memory syndrome, but I think that at the Glasgow QMU gig earlier this year, Stuart M asked for anyone with a copy of Tigermilk to put their hands up. Loads of hands were lifted (a good number counting a tape as a copy I fear, or perhaps just lying?) and I think SM said "*I* don't even have a copy of Tigermilk". I wonder if he was telling the truth? 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This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Mon Nov 3 12:04:18 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 13:04:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: New to the List Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971103120418.006676fc@student.let.uva.nl> Erika wrote: >If anyone else on this list is a Donovan fan and would like to join my >e-mail list let me know..... I always thought they meant Jason Donovan when I read about Donovan, but I guess I must be wrong! Now I'm really wondering who he/they is/are....Could you tell me? 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From msrx7jg2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 12:53:36 1997 From: msrx7jg2 at xxx.uk (John S Grinyer) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:53:36 BST Subject: Sinister: On the trail of Tigermilk.... In-Reply-To: <971101204225.n0004482.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <99593EB2CD6@fs1.ec.man.ac.uk> Dear Susannah, I've been in Manchester for six weeks now, and trust me, NOWHERE has a copy of Tigermilk (or ever had one), but I did have a nice chat to a bloke in Picadilly Records about B&S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 3 13:28:00 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 13:28:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S internet chat sesh References: <971019110306.n0003703.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <345DD160.77D5@virgin.net> susannah wrote: > > Is there any way we can persuade the members of Belle&Sebastian to do > an online > chat session, > so we can all ask them EXACTLY what La Pastie de la Borgeoise > actually means > instead of speculating? > along with other questions, I would love to talk to them, > am I slow off the mark or has one already been done, > Perhaps Katrina and David could sort something out??????? well, i know i responded to this before, but the band have now said yes to a chat session for the europress, and you are all invited to join in! i'll have more details in about a week or so, but, stay tuned ... cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 3 13:27:57 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 13:27:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: catologue numbers References: <199710300917.JAA11492@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> <345868A3.198B@meto.gov.uk> Message-ID: <345DD15D.3277@virgin.net> ok, i'll do it properly this time ... mahmed at meto.gov.uk wrote: > Has anyone noticed the catologue numbers on the BandS output? > Off the top of my head, they are: > > sinister lp jprcd001 (jeepster cd number 1) > dogs ep jprcds001 (jeepster cd single number 1) > lazyjane ep jprcds002 (jeepster cd single number 2) > 963 ep jprcds003 (jeepster cd single number 3) well, not really, that's just for the cd copies ... replace the cd with lp for sinister vinyl, the cds by 7 for the ep seven-inch vinyl and cds by 12 for the 12-inch copies. Anyone know what the cat # for tigermilk is? well, for those who're interested its EHRLP5 (electric honey records). > That would imply that Jeepster has only released product by BandS. To date, yes. > So does Jeepster have any other artists on their roster or > is it a vehicle for BandS (similar to what Stereolab have) ? Umm, no, B&S (which i prefer to BandS which just confuses me and says bands instead of belle and sebastian) weren't even the first signing to jeepster. any guesses who were? well, it was the fab talented two-some Orlando who managed to bring tears to my eyes at their (well, dickon's) last ever gig. it's not my place to say what happened b/n orlando & jeepster ... if dickon wants to tell, then ask him. but, there is another band on our roster ... they're called snow patrol (no capital's please), used to be called Polar Bear, and before that Shrug. They're a three-piece from Belfast but live in Dundee (where Gary & Mark went to college). They (as Polar Bear and featuring Richard Colburn on drums) recorded an ep for stow college, which was released about june this year. there will be a snow patrol single released in january next year. and then, we have another band who absolutely nobody knows about, but they are sooooooo good ... not allowed to say their name as it's so top secret, but they'll have a mini-album released next year. i know lots of people on this list will really really like them ... more news later! > How long have Jeepster being around and who owns it and how did > they attract BandS? Ummm, once the knowledge website is up-and-running www.theknowledge.com then you can find a jeepster history thigy, but basically, it's the brainchild of Mark Jones and Stef D'Andrea, was formed late 1995 after Mark had spent 15 years in the biz unable to sign the bands he wanted, as the majors are crap. stef and him had been mates for years, stef made his fortune in the city, and he knew that mark had an amazing ability to hunt out the next big thing (he tried to sign JAMC, the Sugarcubes, PJ Harvey, Alisha's Attic, Eternal and a heap of others), so he backed him and jeepster was born. the B&S thing is in my other lengthy post, but basically, mark set up a scout network, and neil from glasgow sent the b&s demo, and naturally mark was on the next train to see the band. after hassling them for ages, stevie told stuart m that mark deserved some form of commitment from the band, so after they had set up a gig which a&r men from all over attended, mark was proud to hear Stuart say "thanks to everyone for coming, sorry if it's been a wasted journey though, as we've decided to sign to jeepster" (or something along those lines), which they then did on 01-08-96. > I'm just curious. that's ok, obviously i have nothing better to do! bye katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 3 13:28:05 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 13:28:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Rough Guide References: <34588F66.78C06DD2@colon.net.> Message-ID: <345DD165.5769@virgin.net> Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta wrote: > Whatever happens I think it would be a shame to let this > oppurtunity pass by. I shall sustain a huge beamer if we > actually pull it off, so to speak. I agree, i'm not very good at writing stuff, but ok with all the facts etc. I know there's people out there who can write, so let's see how we go. I think i saw Paul mention birthdates ... so here goes:- Stevie Jackson 16th January 1969 Sarah Martin 12th February 1974 Isobel Campbell 27th April 1976 Richard Colburn 25th July 1970 Stuart Murdoch 25th August 1968 Chris Geddes 2nd October 1975 Mick Cooke 15th December 1973 Stuart David 26th December 1969 (and mine's November 15th .. all cards + pressies to either Jeepster or the PO box please ...!) i'm gonna have to phone Alan Rankine for the details on Tigermilk (recording dates, release date etc.), so stay tuned for that. This info looks as though it's gonna come in dribs and drabs ... sorry! - umm, tracks off "Dog On Wheels" ep only feature Stuart M & Stuart D and Mick Cooke, all the other peoples are session musos, as those tracks were the original Rhode Island demos (what they were before B&S ... i think there were a few {bedroom} gigs and a radio session performed under this name ... glasgow only). - first tape sent to jeepster featured Dog, State, belle and sebastian (which were the tracks in the same form - no remixes - on the dog ep) and a demo version of my wandering days are over. - wandering days and state were re-recorded and appeared on tigermilk. stuart d lived with richard, and stuart d was on the training course with stuart m. - richard was the one doing the stow college course, and he took the demos of the two stuarts in to stow, hang on, i'm just looking at an early press release, and it said neil (robertson, jeepster scout) introduced the band to stow as he was doing the course (?). - band were formed by Stuart m in january 1996 recruiting members at the grosvenor cafe over three days. - band by that stage was the two Stuart's, stevie, richard, isobel and chris, with mick being the trumpeter but not a full-time member, as he was in a band called "Hardbody" (recently dropped by Sony). - tigermilk was recorded and mixed in three days at Cava and produced by stuart m who also did the artwork. - first live radcliffe session was july 1996. - sarah joined sometime after tigermilk came out and the band were signed to jeepster on August 1st 1996. - sinister recorded mostly live an finished in seven days, with another three to mix it. again, produced by stuart. - initial lp title (stuart m's anyway) was Cock fun. - modern rock song was going to be on sinister, however they only wanted ten tracks, so when they asked mark what his fave was, they took it off. - sinister released november 18th 1996. - stuart won't release dog ep in other countries, as it doesn't feature all the band. aarrrgghh ... overload! that's enough for now, questions might help, then i know what you want. cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 3 13:40:52 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 13:40:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Register - IVE GOT ONE !! References: <199711031042.KAA15830@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <345DD464.17DD@virgin.net> Hopkins T wrote: > > It occurred to me the other day that all the members of > > Belle and Sebastian must have copies (keeping count, Paul?) > > so that might be why they don't want to rereleases it. So > > that their own copies are worth billions and billons of > > petrodollars > > > [Hopkins T] > I may be suffering from false memory syndrome, but I think > that > at the Glasgow QMU gig earlier this year, Stuart M asked for anyone > with > a copy of Tigermilk to put their hands up. Loads of hands were lifted > (a > good number counting a tape as a copy I fear, or perhaps just lying?) > and I think SM said "*I* don't even have a copy of Tigermilk". I > wonder > if he was telling the truth? > Dealing with the really important issues of the day, > TimH Stewpot (Hi Peter!) was fibbing, 'cos when we stayed with him, he had a copy. Ooh, thought of another two copies... Laura Meutzelfeldt, Glasgow (well, used to be Kelvingrove, but she's moved) has one and it's in perfect condition. She bought her's when it came out. Geoff Allen, Kelvingrove Glasgow, he works at Cava and the above laura (one of david's old friends) used to live with him, he has the honour of not only owning a copy, but has his name on it too, as he is an engineer at Cava, and worked on the LP. He got his for free at the launch party. Byee, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Mon Nov 3 13:49:41 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:49:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tinderstickiness Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971103134941.00683e54@student.let.uva.nl> Salut Eric! Can you tell me again how to get on the Tindersticks site? Have tried loads of times, but from Roughtrade I don't know where to go. They are not mentioned on the Rough Trade menu or anything.... Sorry this is not BandS-related, but it would take ages for me to find his e-mail address ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Mon Nov 3 13:52:40 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 13:52:40 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER (fwd) Message-ID: This one from David and Katrina that got sent to me only - it was part of the Tigermilk count but I can't keep up! Another summary soon, crikey, it's better than counting sheep... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 02 Nov 1997 14:55:02 +0000 From: David & Katrina To: Honey Subject: Re: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER Honey wrote: > Meanwhile: here's a stupid idea. It always seems to me that a reasonably > surprising number of people on this list hint at having a copy (and you're > all too polite to brag, but you want to, go on). So how many of the 1000 > copies can we track down? There's 322 people on the list but Susannah and > I don't have a copy so that brings it down to 320 so far... > > So for anyone with a real vinyl copy, or who KNOWS anyone with a copy, let > us know: > > 1. Owner name, location (not house number or I'll break in) > 2. Where you got it > 3. Are they individually numbered, in which case tell us your serial > number > 4. Coffee-stains, scratches that tell a tale david kitchen replies (from a cybercafe, urgh!) er, we've got two. plus there's three that Mark Jones owns, and then there's the one that Stef owns. sorry, that makes it six doesn't it! anyway ours; the first we bought for �10 from a rep who works for 3MV, he didn't know what it was but just that it was by Belle and Sebastian and had a blue-ish cover. the cover's slightly tarnished from sitting in a van for 8 months, but the vinyl is mint. we've lent this copy to one of our dearest friends for as long as we've got our other copy. So simon's got this one in East London the second one we bought from a guy off the paper version of the mailing list, we paid �60, gave him �40 of CD's and promised him 10% dicount for the shop we worked in at the time, he didn't have a record player and said he'd rather someone that loved them could listen to it. We also had to do him a pro copy on a very good tape to make sure he still had a copy. The record itself is perfect, as is the sleeve. We've wrapped in plastic and keep it safe when people come over. The computer and the record appear to be the two things we can't live without, oh, and maybe each other. This copy is held 19 floors above West London, as close to heaven as you can get with concrete. mark jones's and stef's; well they do own Jeepster and have every right to own copies of the album. mark's are in london whilst stef's is in winchester. er also, some 25-ish were given to very ungrateful journo's at the time! we do have a full list of who and where, but we're probably not allowed to say. these are the sort of people that slagged it to hell and back at the time and now come grovelling for an interview. the only exception being Jo Whiley who has always been supportive, by the by, she's in west london. so that accounts for about 31. oops! i nearly forgot but Stuart Murdoch has one too! that's in West Glasgow. so now that's 32. love, david. oh and anyone who sent in orders for merchandise, or sent ill-fitting shirts back to us, fret not as we're doing them at Jeepster and even though we've charged your cards yesterday, they'll be shipped out on the next postmans van after Tuesday, and for badges and stuff, well nearer the end of the week. -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/Belleandsebastian.htm mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Mon Nov 3 13:55:42 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:55:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: registers... Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971103135542.006811c4@student.let.uva.nl> Since everyone is so hot on registers at the moment (and since I am so bored today...), why not check out what the average listee's age and occupation are? Just to have something to do, you know..... I'll start you off: Age: 19 Occupation: student and part-time mail-worker (just boring sorting the mail) Just tell me off if I'm being too boring.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Mon Nov 3 13:59:40 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:59:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: whoops.. Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971103135940.006786dc@student.let.uva.nl> Oh Eric, sorry I bothered you just then... after fidgeting for ages I found out I was at the wrong Rough Trade site. It's Publishing you need, innit? Well, I'm there now so I don't need instructions SorrySorrySorry...AGAIN! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Mon Nov 3 14:20:26 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 15:20:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rough Guide Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971103142026.006aa01c@student.let.uva.nl> >(and mine's November 15th .. all cards + pressies to either Jeepster or >the PO box please ...!) You've done it now, Katrina! Boy are you going to have a good birthday this year.... ;) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 14:18:26 1997 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:18:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Register Message-ID: Hiya I've got one, in my house all the way up in Kirkwall in the Orkney isles. I got it for eight pounds from John Smiths Bookshop record bit, by Hillhead tube station in Glasgow (and completely humiliated myself by asking if the had in on CD, a cardinal sin I know) I cant remember it having a number but I'd need to look at it to check.... Its in OK condition but I think I might have lost the wee papery inner sleeve thing... love neil H PS Stuart did ask people at the QMU gig who had a copy of Tigermilk. When I put mu hand up he sort of looked at me nodded at went 'I dont belive you' he probably didn't mean me speciffically but i still bear the scars.... -------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 14:35:17 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (James Ng) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:35:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: registers... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971103135542.006811c4@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Eeyore wrote: > Since everyone is so hot on registers at the moment (and since I am so bored > today...), why not check out what the average listee's age and occupation > are? Just to have something to do, you know..... > I'll start you off: > Age: 19 > Occupation: student and part-time mail-worker (just boring sorting the mail) > Just tell me off if I'm being too boring.... For anyone whose remotely interested, My age is... 18 And I'm a... student! By the way, does anyone out there know the lyrics on Seymour Stein- in particular the two lines just after- 'Early to New York, San Francisco back to Boston...' as I can't hear what he sings on my crappy copy of the song. James. ======================================= = Mail me at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk = = = = or: J.C.Y.Ng at warwick.ac.uk = ======================================= James Ng ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 16:16:10 1997 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 97 16:16:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S 1st Meet-up report Message-ID: <199711031506.PAA17430@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Keith Watson 22/10/97: >On a different note: >Having a B+S meeting on 1st Nov at the Egg in Edinburgh, at least, Pam >from Washington is coming across, so if Nathan, John, Paul or indeed >anyone else wants to come along, we'll meet up... In fact... I'll probably >be spewing up... Well, it's only a quid 50 a pint! So it's not my fault. > > >Cheers, > Keith. MEETING REPORT: Well, the meet went ahead. Pam Berry and american friend (I forget his name) turned up. Unfortunately Keith Watson never turned up, which meant that anybody else who came along wouldn't have known who to meet!. I myself only know Keith and Dave Nicoll and wouldn't have recognised other listees. Only by chance I later discovered 2 people there for the meet who said it was all Keith's fault, they then chatted happily with Pam. I'm actually worried about Keith - he hasn't mailed for over a week and with not turning up to an event he organised I can only assume he's got a bad case of the flu. I hope that's the case and nothing worse has happened. Get well soon Keith. The Egg itself wasn't great (and I'm one of the DJs). I wouldn't go as far as saying it was a rotten(!) Egg, but it was definitely a bit off (sorry for puns). The 2nd DJs choice of tunes was, to put it mildly, 'uninspired'. I Managed to include 3 B&S songs throughout the evening - and 'Comin' Through' by The Pastels for Pam. Presented Pam with LLPJ poster and Egg mug (old promotional tool), which I think she appreciated. Discussed woeful state of UK radio (The US has commercial shows which play Soul all day) in relation to some uninspired soul track which was being played. I pointed out that even hearing Aretha Franklin or Otis Redding on radio up here in Edinburgh was rare. Also discussed B&S decision not to re-release Tigermilk and came to the decision that it's almost criminal. I think I talked too much :(. A disappointing night (for me!) was capped off by one of our regulars - a rabid B&S fan - drunkenly accosting Pam and friend with the offer of a party. Not a bad thing in itself, but given the state he was in, more like Rab C Nesbitt with expletives whilst strumming 'The State I am in'.(try to imagine it!). Pam wisely made excuses. So overall the '1st Informal B&S Meet-up' was a damp squib. Hope any future meet-ups work out better. Hanging my head in shame, Paul "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlang at xxx.com Mon Nov 3 15:48:01 1997 From: mlang at xxx.com (Matrix) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 10:48:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER Message-ID: A very good friend of mine was Tom Zutaut's (yes, the guy who signed Guns N' Roses also signed Belle and Sebastian, in case you didn't know) assistant at the now defunct Enclave. That is actually how I got into Belle and Sebastian. Anyway, she has heard TIGERMILK because Monsieur Zutaut has a copy which makes much sense. Of course it would have just been too good to be true to know someone internal at B&S's American label... It just HAD to go under, right? :) Steve Matrick... who thinks I Don't Love Anyone is the most likely Belle and Sebastian song to be a hit single.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hiv95352 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 16:35:16 1997 From: hiv95352 at xxx.uk (Caz) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 16:35:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk register Message-ID: <345DFD44.19B5@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> Well a friend of a friend of mine's got one, Neil Humphreys from Glasgow. He's a friend of Isobels and could ahve got one for free but went out and bought it anyway to support them...thats all i know. But Laura Muetzelfeldt's the music editor of our uni paper...i'd never noticed her having great taste in music but i'll pay more attention now. And Stevie has the same birthday as me! How cool...i swear no-one famous ever was born on 16th Jan before. You know you used to get Smash Hits yearbooks and all that that told you famous people's birthdays...no-one was ever born on the same day as me *sob* so now i'm happy! So what percentage of this list are students then? I am too, incidentally... love and stuff caz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gayj at xxx.edu Mon Nov 3 16:47:36 1997 From: gayj at xxx.edu (Pat Gay) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 08:47:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: B+S Classifieds Message-ID: Hi! My name is Pat. I'm a SWM, age 18, NS, ND. I'm looking for a special person. To be that special person, you should have the following personality traits: 1. You should own a nice clean original copy of _Tigermilk_ by Belle and Sebastian. 2. You should also own a nice CD burner, and be willing to burn me a copy, at my expense of course (or maybe we could work out a trade). Of course, I have a worn out, nth generation dub, but I'm looking for more clarity, hi-fidelity, and permanence in my life. Please let me know if you are that special person. Hope to hear from YOU soon..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 18:03:40 1997 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 97 18:03:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER Message-ID: <199711031654.QAA28870@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> > So for anyone with a real vinyl copy, or who KNOWS anyone with a copy, let > us know: > > 1. Owner name, location (not house number or I'll break in) > 2. Where you got it > 3. Are they individually numbered, in which case tell us your serial > number > 4. Coffee-stains, scratches that tell a tale I don't have one myself (boo-hoo!) as I buried my head in the sand while Keith Watson told me how good it was!!!. I know Keith has one he had to go through to Glasgow for. I'm sure he'll tell you himself if he gets back on-line. Judging by the jumps the dodgy tape he gave me had, it sounds like his is scratched. Our drunken regular at The Egg - >a rabid B&S fan - drunkenly accosting Pam and friend with the offer of >a party. Not a bad thing in itself, but given the state he was in, >more like Rab C Nesbitt with expletives whilst strumming 'The State I >am in'.(try to imagine it!)" - who's name is Ritchie Thomson has one in Oakville Terrace, Edinburgh. A close friend of my girlfriend and I has a friend called Ken - who lives near Dean Village, Edinburgh, who has Tigermilk too. Our close friend also buried his head while Ken raved about B&S, despite being a huge Felt fan he didn't like the B&S sound at first - and now it's too late!!!. So Paul, that's another 3 accounted for. Byee, Paul "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul.Dean at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 16:52:46 1997 From: Paul.Dean at xxx.uk (Paul Dean) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:52:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Next Big Thing Message-ID: Yes, I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but who did Select predict to be greater than B&S.....?? S'later Paul. >>unanimous in their praise, and with Select >>magazine voting them into a close second place in >>the battle of Next Big Thing, everyone who knew >>what was what was suddenly saying the name Belle & >>Sebastian. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul.Dean at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 16:53:03 1997 From: Paul.Dean at xxx.uk (Paul Dean) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 16:53:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER Message-ID: This is probably getting boring right now, but I've got a copy of TigerMilk... Having heard 'The State I Am In' played to death on Mark Radcliffe, I wrote the address for Stow down & then... sort of forgot about it, although i stuck the scrap of paper in the tape box which contained the Radcliffe sessions. Months later, stuck in Friday night traffic on the M1 - oh, happy days - i played the tape to my friend Jonathon Bibby, who - usual story - fell in love with B&S straight away. i told him about TigerMilk, & he scribbled the address down as well. Weeks passed & I started to hear all these stories about it being unavailable. So finally, in a fit of panic I wrote to Stow, & on the 26th November 1996 (don't ask how i remember the date, it just proves what a sad sack i am..) it arrived!! & an hour later Jonathon Bibby phoned, excitedly blabbing on about how his had turned up the same day. So i guess i'm pretty lucky. I heard a story that Stow had sold out, but then a few had turned up again so i presume that mine is one of those lost TigerMilk's. Phew!!.. so the short answer is one lives at my mums in Derbyshire (i was too scared to leave it in My flat in Wimbledon while i'm working here in Boston), & Jonathon's is filed away amongst many other top pop records in a small bedroom in Padiham, Lancashire (near the Manor Barn public house). ahhh, back to lurking S'later Paul. (who's favourite B&S moment remains the wibbling at the end of the sessions version of 'I could be dreaming', Stuart - 'The call us winsome, but we're just hopeless'.. Can anyone work out the rest, & what is an ARP van,,,,,?! >---------- >From: Honey[SMTP:psm at xxx.net] >Sent: 01 November 1997 16:56 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER > > > >On Sat, 1 Nov 1997, susannah wrote: > >> So, after getting more obsessed with Belle&Sebastian as each day passes I >> decided to try and track down a copy of Tigermilk.. >> I mean (I asked myself) How hard can it really be? I live in London with a >>whole >> plethora of record shops, I'll find a dusty old copy somewhere no problem. > >Susannah, you're a hero. I don't rate your chances but I'm very impressed >- keep the journal coming. > >Meanwhile: here's a stupid idea. It always seems to me that a reasonably >surprising number of people on this list hint at having a copy (and you're >all too polite to brag, but you want to, go on). So how many of the 1000 >copies can we track down? There's 322 people on the list but Susannah and >I don't have a copy so that brings it down to 320 so far... > >So for anyone with a real vinyl copy, or who KNOWS anyone with a copy, let >us know: > >1. Owner name, location (not house number or I'll break in) >2. Where you got it >3. Are they individually numbered, in which case tell us your serial > number >4. Coffee-stains, scratches that tell a tale > >Send all this to the list with the subject "TIGERMILK REGISTER" and I'll >set up a Tigermilk register on the WWW page... Impress your friends! >Rung rings around your insurance company! > >While I'm here two other things: > >1. Someone mentioned the Ink Polaroids competition - some of the judges >have judged honestly so your efforts haven't been forgotten! I suspect >the hold-up is the problem David and Katrina are having with their PC but >watch this space... > >2. The search page on the Sinister WWW page below is NOW working PROPERLY. >Not spewing out gallons of rubbish when you search by full text. Sorry to >anyone who wasted their time before. > >Have to dash - scrumptiously scarey Mogwai LP to listen to and Bev is just >pouring her first G&T for Ange on BBC2... (non-UK readers get an extra >prize for recognising this one..) > >Paul >mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 17:17:30 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:17:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER Message-ID: <01BCE87C.5E4D8A60@rainbow.qss.co.uk> I don't have one myself (boo-hoo!) as I buried my head in the sand while Keith Watson told me how good it was!!!. I know Keith has one he had to go through to Glasgow for. I'm sure he'll tell you himself if he gets back on-line. Judging by the jumps the dodgy tape he gave me had, it sounds like his is scratched. [Keith Watson] Yes - indeed, though frankly I just don't have the time to do copies of it really - I spend loads of time doing constant copies for people in Edinburgh, who want their tapes replaced and stuff, Paul, I'll do you another one, it's not a scratched record, it's fine, it'll be my 20 year old tape player having a bad day more than likely. Incidentally, I've been on holiday and ill last week. - who's name is Ritchie Thomson has one in Oakville Terrace, [Keith Watson] This'll be the guy that I know him as, and he knows me as "Belle and Sebastian man". [Keith Watson] Sorry to have missed the Egg night that was my idea! Oops, I was not well I'm afraid, oh well, never mind, next time, how did it go? Cheers, Keith. Oh... Peter, I've done you a tape, I'll get it in the post as soon as possible. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Mon Nov 3 17:29:35 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:29:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Paul Dean wrote: > This is probably getting boring right now, but I've got a copy of > TigerMilk... No not boring! Keep them coming - I'm determined to see if we can "find" more than 1000! I will pull all these together when I get a chance and put them on the WWW page. P.S. The WWW search is REALLY working now (no. 42.) Cough Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 17:19:22 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:19:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk register Message-ID: <01BCE87C.A13735B0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> And Stevie has the same birthday as me! How cool...i swear no-one famous ever was born on 16th Jan before. You know you used to get Smash Hits yearbooks and all that that told you famous people's birthdays...no-one was ever born on the same day as me *sob* so now i'm happy! [Keith Watson] Aha - and that's where you're wrong, have you seen Ross Harper on Scotland Today? (Not the motorbiking lawyer), I used to sit next to him at school, and his birthday's then too. There you go - it's your lucky day. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Mon Nov 3 17:58:01 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 17:58:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: registers... Message-ID: <345E10A9.4BD8@nmrc.ucc.ie> My favorite moment will always be "Outside the butchers with a knife and a bike chain - La La La" from I Could Be Dreaming. And I'm 29 (I know I am pushing the average upwards) and my official title is Research Scientist, but I still have an ISIC. Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 18:29:21 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (R.E.W. Butler) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:29:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Rough Guide In-Reply-To: <345DD165.5769@virgin.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Katrina at Jeepster wrote: > - band by that stage was the two Stuart's, stevie, richard, isobel and > chris, with mick being the trumpeter but not a full-time member, as he > was in a band called "Hardbody" (recently dropped by Sony). Anyone else see 'Hardbody' live a few years back? I saw them at Brighton and thought they were great - my first experience of a Belle and Sebastian person - wow... and I never knew it. Didn't hear much from them after that though. You learn something new every day... that's what makes every day special Rob P.S. Have to agree with Paul Dean with the bit at the end of the 'I could be dreaming' session. "They call us winsome, but we're just hopeless..." One of my favourite B&S phrases, and one which I've written all over my files, books, and general possessions... P.P.S. Register update - I'm 19, and a student...! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Mon Nov 3 18:34:32 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:34:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: january 16th Message-ID: <80256544.0065F632.00@bull.co.uk> the internet movie database will let you search for birthdates. 16th january is given by: http://us.imdb.com/M/on-this-day?day=16&month=January and turns up kate moss, john carpenter (and about 50 or so others). it'll also show you deaths and marriages and films that opened: the apartment (one of my favourite films) opened (albeit in sweden) on your birthday in 1961. andy sat here, bored, waiting for email... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Mon Nov 3 18:35:21 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:35:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: <01BCE87C.5E4D8A60@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Keith Watson wrote: > Yes - indeed, though frankly I just don't have the time to do > copies of it really - I spend loads of time doing constant copies for > people in Edinburgh... Oh yes. If Tigermilkers don't want to be asked for tapes (life is short) then just mail me direct to tell me you've got a copy and details, - but I'm determined to get as many as we can. Glad to hear you're not ill, Keith, as someone suggested. Does that mean I still qualify as "illest person on list" and will keep getting all these nice encouraging sweet notes from people to brighten up my mailbox? Thank you everyone, you're the nicest 324 people I know... Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ta4091 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 17:59:50 1997 From: ta4091 at xxx.uk (Dazza) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 17:59:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: why this is important? Message-ID: <66A18B72914@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> > I've seen the Wannadies > support the Lightning Seeds, and even poet Murray Lachlan Young supporting > My Life Story; You mean "poet" M*rr*y L*chl*n Y**ng. Sorry Dazza ************ Tick, tick, tick, the machine continued. Time was passing. The audience was wandering, dispersing. Only the tick tick of the gramophone held them together. ************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ta4091 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 18:47:24 1997 From: ta4091 at xxx.uk (Dazza) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:47:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song chords/lyrics Message-ID: <66AE3D2564E@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> Just A Modern Rock Song C# C# Emma tried to run away G# I followed her across the city F# She went out to the easter house [?] C# Cause she liked the sound of it She didn't have a single penny She stuck a finger in the air She's trying to flag down an aeroplane I suppose she needs a holiday I put my arm around her waist She put me on the ground with judo She didn't recognise my face She wasn't even looking Laura's feeling just ideal Her horoscope was nearly perfect She's thinking of something to do Cause she is the birthday girl She went out to the edge of town Where she saw me lying in the park She took Emma by the hand They've got a lot in common So I leave them to do what they want And I leave them to do what they need to I'll go and play with words and pictures I'll admit I'm feeling strange instrumental verse x4 I'm not as sad as Dostoyevsky And I'm not as clever as Mark Twain And I'll only buy a book for the way it looks And then I'll stick it on the shelf again Well I could tell you what I'm thinking But it never seems to do you good It's beyond me what a girl can see [?] when I'm riding buses This is just a modern rock song This is just a sorry lament We're four boys in a [???] We're not terrific but we're competent Me I'm full of good intentions Richie's into rock and roll Stuart's staying in and he thinks it's a sin If he has to leave the house at all This is just a modern rock song This is just a tender affair Count three, four, we start to slow Because a song has got to stop somewhere [?] = lyrics I'm particularly mystified by or unable to hear. Can anyone help? cheers Dazza ************ Tick, tick, tick, the machine continued. Time was passing. The audience was wandering, dispersing. Only the tick tick of the gramophone held them together. ************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ta4091 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 18:50:41 1997 From: ta4091 at xxx.uk (Dazza) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:50:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Thanks Ben - sorry everybody else Message-ID: <66AF1E326B6@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> Thanks for the tape Ben - I've lost your address which is why I'm writing here - sorry people. Dazza ************ Tick, tick, tick, the machine continued. Time was passing. The audience was wandering, dispersing. Only the tick tick of the gramophone held them together. ************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From xpx71 at xxx.com Mon Nov 3 19:05:34 1997 From: xpx71 at xxx.com (Tim Jones) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:05:34 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199711031905.TAA01988@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> > Since everyone is so hot on registers at the moment (and since I am so bored > today...), why not check out what the average listee's age and occupation > are? Just to have something to do, you know..... > I'll start you off: > Age: 19 > Occupation: student and part-time mail-worker (just boring sorting the mail) > Just tell me off if I'm being too boring.... just to say I`m also intrigued to see what kind of people are on the list. I`m 18, and a student. cheers, Tim. xxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 19:06:48 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 19:06:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER References: Message-ID: <345E20C7.3089004B@mail.zynet.co.uk> there's one residing in the depths of cricklewood at this moment in time, or at least i hope it still is and that the owner has not sold it as she was threatening to not so long ago... belongs to the cover star of both the tigermilk record itself and the dog on wheels, with both props indeed being her own. alas, i myself do not own a copy, and as i said to tim a few days ago, i feel much less distraught about that than i think i would have done if i were in my younger days. :-) keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 19:02:16 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 19:02:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Next Big Thing References: Message-ID: <345E1FB8.3D597190@mail.zynet.co.uk> Paul Dean wrote: > Yes, I know hindsight is a wonderful thing, but > who did Select predict > to be greater than B&S.....?? > > S'later > Paul. bentley rhythm ace. ha ha ha. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 19:21:47 1997 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 19:21:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: registers... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971103135542.006811c4@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: On Mon, 03 Nov 1997 14:55:42 +0100, Eeyore said: << Since everyone is so hot on registers at the moment (and since I am so bored today...), why not check out what the average listee's age and occupation are? >> OK, I'm 25 and I'm a Local Govt. Officer (Social Services). Exciting, huh? Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faeiry at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 19:48:41 1997 From: faeiry at xxx.uk (faeiry) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:48:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Greetings! Message-ID: hello everyone! i'm just writing to say a general hello! i've been on the list for some time but never quite managed to write anything, which, on reflection seems quite hopeless! hmmm... well.. here we go - register about ME! age: 16 years old... occupation: am doing my GCSE's (that can't fail but to sound bad) and erm.... don't posses a copy of tigermilk down here in london, however, i have a friend in oxford, called caroline who does... which is always useful! hmmm... one last thing! why not arrange a B&S meet in London! (incidentally, how many of the people on the list are from London?) should possibly be fun? well.... can only hope with the possibility in mind that perhaps one day soon, i shall meet people who are aware that Belle and Sebastian is not just the name of that well loved cartoon of a boy and his dog, yet that they are a wonderful, downright sound band! well.. i can only dream, and hopefully, not have it shattered! hmmm... not sure what that spiele just was, but anyhow~ nice to be here and to finally have figured out how to work this damned thing! Petra anyone ever heard of a band called Telephone. i'm just wonder what common opinion of this band are.. as with belle and sebastian my contemporaries have never heard of them. i dunno! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Mon Nov 3 19:43:35 1997 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 14:43:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Register Message-ID: <01BCE866.DE38BDA0@n150.natureny.com> I know that WUNH 91.1 FM, at the University of New Hampshire in Durham, NH rec'd a vinyl copy in November of 96. It changed my life back when I was there. "Expectations" was the first song I played. I don't know if it's individually numbered, and I think it was sent to us by a kindly boy in the UK. If you want specifics, email idf at hopper.unh.edu-- that's Ian, and he's the music director. He'll help. Cheers! paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Mon Nov 3 19:58:44 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 97 19:58:44 GMT Subject: Sinister: registers... References: Message-ID: <971103195844.n0004555.tormentor@mail.clara.net> >On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Eeyore wrote: > >> Since everyone is so hot on registers at the moment (and since I am so bored >> today...), why not check out what the average listee's age and occupation >> are? OK, I am 25 and live in North London. And I am a Forensic Biologist!! (although feel like a student still) Susannah. susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Mon Nov 3 19:59:11 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 19:59:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: Registers-a-go-go In-Reply-To: <199711031944.TAA08715@mcmail.com> References: <199711031944.TAA08715@mcmail.com> Message-ID: <34632cd8.2409107@email.mcmail.com> Tigermilk one: I haven't got one. I know four people who have: One, my flatmate who works in a 2nd hand record shop got his for =A33 and never tires of telling everyone, punctuated with Nelson-off-the-Simpsons style 'haha'. One day I'll kill him (with a knife or a bike chain). Two, a pop celebrity/journalist/record company executive (work it out yourselves, I'm giving nothing away, except that it's not Alan McGhee.) Three, a graphic designer/DJ in a Glasgow nitespot. Four, a girl who works in a Manchester record shop. No names, these people are my friends and I don't want them getting mobbed. Other one I'm 30, I'm not a student, my birthday is March 25th (an Aries). I support Manchester City, my favourite colour is blue, and my favourite food is Tiramisu. Fascinating. Time for Alan Partridge. Goodnight Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrewn at xxx.edu Mon Nov 3 20:50:43 1997 From: andrewn at xxx.edu (Andrew Hung Nguyen) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 12:50:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Pastie on American radio Message-ID: Yesterday I was listening to the radio and I hear Pastie... on a aka modern rock radio station in LA. It was the first time I heard the song and to be honest I did not recognize the song at first. Does this give some hope that American radio programmers will play more B&S? And I am not talking about college radio. For the Tigermilk search: I get so paranoid that I will miss a copy, I flip through the "S" and "T" section in case the ignorant employee misplaced it. Age:22 Occupation:student ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From clive at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 20:53:44 1997 From: clive at xxx.uk (ten seconds to midnight) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:53:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Snow Patrol Message-ID: <01bce89a$92be8ba0$9267989e@rodina.demon.co.uk> Hi. Just in case anyone wants to know, Snow Patrol played here in Belfast last Friday. However I missed them as I though they were on on Saturday. Doh! And they've got a track on the fairly poor quality v/a cd 'belFEST '97' (17 bands! only 99p! which I suppose you can't really complain about, really.) called 'my last girlfriend'. So there you go. clv. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faeiry at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 21:16:00 1997 From: faeiry at xxx.uk (faeiry) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:16:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: wonder Message-ID: how is it that belle and sebastian have this wonderful way of just completely cheering one up? i put on if you're feeling sinster and i just all of a sudden became one of the jolliest people for a while. i spent all easter listening to it, and it just made me SO happy.... i thought you might just like to know that... doubt it actually as none of you know me, but anyhow. anyone else suffer from this inexplainable feeling of cheeriness and self contentedness somehow when ever any song by belle and sebastian comes on.... no? oh well.. i guess i must be kinda funny then. oh well, Alan Partridge beckons with open arms for me this evening. oh, incedentally... i have a friend, well, i know someone who is practically identical to Alan Partridge. he makes me laugh a lot. *s* he's off at university at the moment, being all knowledgable about medicine, which somehow ruins the alan partridge connection.. but. you know. Love to the World! petra ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 21:10:10 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (alistair fitchett) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 21:10:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: saropoly... belleopoly etc. References: Message-ID: <345E3DB1.263F159F@mail.zynet.co.uk> Sarah wrote: > Hi everyone! > > I'm a new listee, how do you all? And do I feel > young now..er, can I ask > something please? > > what's Sarapoly? Saropoly: catalogue number 50 in the great Sarah records discography... Saropoly was a board game in which you pretended to be a record company mogul dashing around a 'virtual' city of Bristol (ie a folded out drawn map thingie) collecting all the items essential to make a loverly Sarah 7" single in a plastic bag. How quaint. It was a lot of fun actually, but only, i suspect, if you got the jokes. I guess if you played it now you'd be going 'huh?' a lot. And not laughing. But we laughed because we played it in the sun and we are old. ha ha. i too had two copies but one became a prize in the first Tangents bumper competition and was won by, um, someone in America who wanted to play it with her sister and parents. How quaint. It didn't mention Belle & Sebastian, but i feel that a Belleopoly would be a rather spiffing idea as part of the promo doo-dah thingy ideas. Play as one of the members of the band as you traverse Glasgow, splashing along, through George Square, trying to dodge the raindrops, like Billy the Whizz. Ahem. And trying to get your shopping done, and trying to avoid NME journalists. If you play as Chris you have the extra added burden of trying to find a copy of Tigermilk to replace the one you gave away. You could try and find Elvis (and tell Scully to come home if you see him while you're at it), cook some brocolli, do all the things that Pop Stars do. Or not. keep the faith chums, the duke PS: Prize to the first person to spot my artfully slotted in Pop reference. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Mon Nov 3 21:51:32 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 21:51:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971103215132.00696210@mail.u-net.com> At 03:47 AM 1/21/78 +0000, Steve Genge wrote: >At some point today JJ wrote: > >> I think that you get dizzier as you get older. At least I do/did. When I >> was like 5, that used to be how I would "dance" Nope I didn't say that...might have been jj heldman though! JJ x ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ianmacdonald at xxx.net Mon Nov 3 22:25:40 1997 From: ianmacdonald at xxx.net (Ian MacDonald) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:25:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Questions ,questions and begrudged answers Message-ID: <199711032231.WAA14072@boober.lineone.net> I hereby lay claim to being the dullest invidual on this list. I am a 28 year old statistician with aspirations to becoming a financial analyst. I do not have Tigermilk but thanks to the Nytol I do not lose much sleep over this fact. In my defence , I do occasionally wear a baseball cap (backwards of course) and am a staunch ally of S.A.D. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul.Dean at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 22:44:32 1997 From: Paul.Dean at xxx.uk (Paul Dean) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 22:44:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song missing bits Message-ID: Oh my God! this is my 3rd post today, they must not be working me hard enough. Don't worry this will be my quota for the year These are the bits as i hear them >She went out to the easter house [?] > I think this is true - it's a housing estate in Glasgow. I'll not make a fool of myself by saying any more. Hope someone is Glasgow can expand. It was also the name of Morrissey's pick of 86(?) who as usual thanks to the patronage of the quiffed one soon dissappered down the pan. Others to be so cursed have been The June Brides, The Primitives, Raymonde, Bradford, Marion. I think only James managed to ride that particular one out..sorry to go off topic! >Well I could tell you what I'm thinking >But it never seems to do you good >It's beyond me what a girl can see >[?] when I'm riding buses I'M ONLY HAPPY WHEN I'M RIDING BUSES?? >This is just a modern rock song >This is just a sorry lament >We're four boys in a [???] >We're not terrific but we're competent WE'RE FOUR BOYS IN OUR CORDUROYS.. (Oh I hope I'm hearing that one right) Well, that's how they sound to me - waiting to be shot down as usual S'later Paul (aged 28 & works , gulp here goes, sort of with umm.. computers) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 23:29:58 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 23:29:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Snow Patrol In-Reply-To: <01bce89a$92be8ba0$9267989e@rodina.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > Just in case anyone wants to know, Snow Patrol played here in Belfast last > Friday. However I missed them as I though they were on on Saturday. Doh! > > And they've got a track on the fairly poor quality v/a cd 'belFEST '97' (17 > bands! only 99p! which I suppose you can't really complain about, really.) > called 'my last girlfriend'. > > So there you go. > > clv. > This is the same track that they put on the CD given out to people going on the Intercity Crawl back in September. I think I've put it on tapes I've done for some people on this list. All the bands who were playing all three nights (Camden, Manchester and Glasgow) donated one song. At the Camden one, they were one of only two bands that turned up out of the four who were meant to be playing at Dingwalls, but when they were on stage the place was still packed; obviously loads of people had heard that they'd signed for Jeepster and decided that they must be really good... Personal info; I'm a 20 year old student, who spends his time playing korfball and volleyball, socialising, and looking for the woman of my dreams... (Oh, and occasionally working as well :-)) There do seem to be a lot of students on this list. Is that just because we get free e-mail access? Stuart G I really shouldn't e-mail people when I get back from the pub... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Tue Nov 4 00:12:51 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 18:12:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: students In-Reply-To: References: <01bce89a$92be8ba0$9267989e@rodina.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: >There do seem to be a lot of students on this list. Is that just because >we get free e-mail access? yes yes yes. university email is fast and free. reason enough to pursue higher education, no? an another collegiate B&S note...there was a small review of the B&S EPs in the entertainment section of our daily newspaper here a week ago, written by a DJ at the radio station here. needless to say, I whooped with joy when I saw the article. here's an excerpt: "In trying to get across to you this music's nature I find myself truly at a loss for words. You really have to hear these records for yourself...they're all beyond belief. If you have to know what they sound like, they make beautiful, folky, poppy, incredibly heartfelt music. But you must see, and hear, for yourself. Their music does not function as mere entertainment, or even as art, but as something that transcends those parameters." and each day at 8PM, DJs have the option of doing this thing called the 8 o'clock break, which is an opportunity to showcase the work of one artist for an hour. two Fridays ago, during the timeslot when I apprentice at the station, the guy who wrote the review (he's also a DJ) played B&S during the 8 o'clock break. people kept calling in to further inquire about the band. the music was well-received. and I was delighted, to say the least. and about me: 18 (born April 8), student (studying journalism) and tea-cozy aficionado. ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "At another table, a girl stared solemnly into her cup. Jim wished he could've taken her picture. But then he was afraid that he might steal the moment away from her." --Belle and Sebastian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 00:21:31 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (R.E.W. Butler) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 00:21:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song missing bits In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Paul Dean wrote: > >Well I could tell you what I'm thinking > >But it never seems to do you good > >It's beyond me what a girl can see > >[?] when I'm riding buses > I'M ONLY HAPPY WHEN I'M RIDING BUSES?? I hear it as 'I'm only lucid when I'm riding buses' - I hope that's right, 'cos I love it like that. Love to all Rob xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Nov 4 07:28:03 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (superbob) Date: Mon, 03 Nov 97 23:28:03 PST Subject: Sinister: texas Message-ID: i know you've all been eagerly anticipating my stats. i'll keep you waiting no longer. age: 23 occupation: student (acoustic engineering) coincidentally.....is anyone on this list from austin, tx? i might be moving there soon and all i know about the place is what i've seen in movies and tv. i have a friend there who i don't really want to live with so i'm trying to find out more about the place before i decide to move there. you can mail me personally so as not to clutter the list. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From initgrl at xxx.org Tue Nov 4 02:02:39 1997 From: initgrl at xxx.org (jj heldmann) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 21:02:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: <3.0.2.32.19971103215132.00696210@mail.u-net.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, J Jackson wrote: > At 03:47 AM 1/21/78 +0000, Steve Genge wrote: > >At some point today JJ wrote: > > > >> I think that you get dizzier as you get older. At least I do/did. When I > >> was like 5, that used to be how I would "dance" > > Nope I didn't say that...might have been jj heldman though! > > JJ yup, that was me, the lowercase jj...there certainly are more jj's here than i've ever encountered in one place! we need to figure out a way of keeping all of us straight! :) xo jj, j2, double j, jage, etc... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leh at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 02:54:20 1997 From: leh at xxx.uk (Laura/happy bunny/Hamilton:)) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 02:54:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: registers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm 19, a student, an eager B&S fan and barstff at a rather groovy irish theme pub love and hugs, Laura :) xxx On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, James Ng wrote: > On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Eeyore wrote: > > > Since everyone is so hot on registers at the moment (and since I am so bored > > today...), why not check out what the average listee's age and occupation > > are? Just to have something to do, you know..... > > I'll start you off: > > Age: 19 > > Occupation: student and part-time mail-worker (just boring sorting the mail) > > Just tell me off if I'm being too boring.... > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leh at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 03:16:35 1997 From: leh at xxx.uk (Laura/happy bunny/Hamilton:)) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 03:16:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: students In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Yeah, I was incredibly impressed when I opened our student newspaper and found a review on B&S and 3,6,9... If James Ellvers is out there, did it have anything to do with you, and how many yah's did you have to threaten to review a band with any talent, nevermind such a seductively gifted band such as B&S (ihope it didn't cost you too cuch in the way of G&T's etc.) love and hugs, Laura :) xxx On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Amanda Bergman wrote: > >There do seem to be a lot of students on this list. Is that just because > >we get free e-mail access? > > yes yes yes. university email is fast and free. reason enough to pursue > higher education, no? > > an another collegiate B&S note...there was a small review of the B&S EPs in > the entertainment section of our daily newspaper here a week ago, written > by a DJ at the radio station here. needless to say, I whooped with joy when > I saw the article. here's an excerpt: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leh at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 03:55:36 1997 From: leh at xxx.uk (Laura Hamilton:)) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 03:55:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: hely gorgeous, I've had an incredibly bad day so you will hae to excuse me but I've been out drowning my woeful sorrows and watching heaps of Billy Connolly in the pub. May Ijust state here my boss is an absolut jem as are the regulars as I haven't actually paid a penny towards the state I am in!! Anyhow I thought I would ask if anyone has heard of "Whiteout" and for your views on them, just for a laugh, because I'm going home at the weekend and I am so sick of them having their head up their own arses and I reckon that they need a good kick up the arse, and I'm sure McD would appreciate any input from the listeners. By the way the computer next to me has to have the best screensaver, some 'cyberkitten' can't quite decide whether or not too chase a ball of yarn -no wait it's sleeping now-, oops,it's going aliitle insane with it's mad dashing around, oh, it's contemplating the pounce, anyway, I think I'll sit and watch this kitten on acid for a while, take care. love and hugs, Laura :) xxx P.S. the majority of you have probably seen B&S live, would it be posible to hear a few stories as I doubt very much I will ever get to see them as I hae a real problem with crowds. Maybe one day I will get lucky and overcome it, it would be worth it to see the band just once in the flesh. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 09:32:37 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:32:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song missing bits Message-ID: <01BCE904.9BB8C5D0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> -----Original Message----- From: Paul Dean [SMTP:Paul.Dean at xxx.uk] Sent: Monday, November 03, 1997 10:45 PM To: 'B&S' Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song missing bits Oh my God! this is my 3rd post today, they must not be working me hard enough. Don't worry this will be my quota for the year These are the bits as i hear them >She went out to the easter house [?] > I think this is true - it's a housing estate in Glasgow. I'll not make a fool of myself by saying any more. Hope someone is Glasgow can expand. [Keith Watson] It's the largest of Clement Atlee's post war housing estates that were built in Glasgow, others being Drumchapel, Castlemilk, and I've forgotten the other one... oops. It was also the name of Morrissey's pick of 86(?) who as usual thanks to [Keith Watson] Who also did name themselves after the housing estate in Glasgow - which was slightly confusing given that they were from Manchester (at least as far as my memory serves me). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Tue Nov 4 09:41:07 1997 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:41:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: registers... Message-ID: I was going to do this like the Daily Mail Weekender, but I decided to refrain. Name: Christopher Alexander Leonard Age: 21 2/3 From: Balfron, the village of weeping. In the olden days the hills that Balfron sits by, the Campsies, were populated with wolfs. One day the men of the village went to the next village for kareoke or something. The wolfs came down and ate all the woman and children ha ha. Hence the village of Weeping. It is located 20 miles north of Glasgow. Unde Salus Mea. Job: computer programmer. And ninja. And Astronaut(y). That is all. Christopher Leonard (Cohen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 09:34:04 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:34:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Who are we Message-ID: <01BCE904.CADA81F0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Well I'm a 24 year old computer programmer working for a company called QSS in Shandwick Place, Edinburgh. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 09:22:40 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:22:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Rough Guide Message-ID: <01BCE903.33AE5CD0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Katrina at Jeepster wrote: > - band by that stage was the two Stuart's, stevie, richard, isobel and > chris, with mick being the trumpeter but not a full-time member, as he > was in a band called "Hardbody" (recently dropped by Sony). Anyone else see 'Hardbody' live a few years back? I saw them at Brighton and thought they were great - my first experience of a Belle and Sebastian person - wow... and I never knew it. Didn't hear much from them after that though. You learn something new every day... that's what makes every day special [Keith Watson] Hardbody haven't been dropped per se - it's just that Sony have dumped all the people in the band who are male. Their LP is still going to be released under that name, it's just that Louise remains the only member signed to Sony. Incidentally they've got two singles still kicking about, "On Your Own" and "Hazel's Hob" - which are both good. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 09:28:05 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 09:28:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Shopping in my friends Message-ID: <01BCE903.F55D5700@rainbow.qss.co.uk> He He... Here's a list of people who also own Tigermilk Kevin Robertson, currently working at the Dick Vet department in Edinburgh Uni. Athole McLaughlin - Address currently unknown - as Klas knows only too well Guyda Armstrong - in Leeds doing a diploma in Italian Grant Macnamara - my flatmate, got one through working in Chamber Studio in Edinburgh Avalanche in Edinburgh *Claim* to have lost two copies in their basement Hee hee - Kevin told me last night explicitly not to add his name to the list. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 10:20:53 1997 From: WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk (Rhys Williams) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:20:53 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <18CE4B040E@NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK> > On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Paul Dean wrote: > > > This is probably getting boring right now, but I've got a copy of > > TigerMilk... > Then put me down as well. Bought on the strength of the intriguing review in The List. Rhys ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 10:28:37 1997 From: WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk (Rhys Williams) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:28:37 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Rough Guide In-Reply-To: <345DD165.5769@virgin.net> Message-ID: <18EEBD0C29@NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK> > I think i saw Paul mention birthdates ... so here goes:- > > Stuart Murdoch 25th August 1968 Wow! Incredible - the boy Murdoch was born exactly one year after me (I arrived in the world just as the Beatles arrived in Bangor station, just round the corner from the hospital, to meet the Maharishi). I don't feel quite so tragically old now... Rhys ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 10:26:12 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:26:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: who what where Message-ID: hello gang I neglected to locate my Tigermilk when I registered. It lives with me in Hammersmith, West London. I looked anew upon it last night (making your tape John!) and found that etched in a spidery hand on the vinyl it said something like "tm (tim?) a masterpiece". Am I showing my ignorance here? Does it say that on all records - does it say that on yours? To identify myself - I'm one of the JJs on this list, I'm 27, I do intranet pages for a big computer company and I heartily enjoy a good cup of tea. hot love john xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Tue Nov 4 10:45:01 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 10:45:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER and other stuff Message-ID: <199711041044.KAA28109@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> I have a vinyl copy of Tigermilk, so here's the detials... 1. Owner: John Stuart, Roslin (home of Dolly the clone sheep) near Edinburgh. 2. Bought it in Fopp, Cockburn St, Edinburgh a day or two after the first Radcliffe session. 3. Mine is'nt numbered, so I imagine that none are. 4. It's kept in top nick and has been played twice. Once to record it to tape, and once to record it to Minidisc. ----------------- > why not check out what the average listee's age and occupation I'm 22 (22nd May - Same as Morrisey!) and work with computers & databases. My official title is 'Assistant Database Manager'. ------------------ >The first Belle & Sebastian record was made as >part of Stuart�s college course, and was released >in early 1996. It was called �Tigermilk� Was'nt it Richard who was on the music course at Stow? Cheers, John. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mameauxm at xxx.ie Tue Nov 4 11:55:18 1997 From: mameauxm at xxx.ie (Marc Mameaux) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 11:55:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: registers Message-ID: <345F0D26.60E9@eeng.dcu.ie> I'm 23, I'm a French student doing a master of engineering in electronic systems in Dublin. I was born on Oct 1st on the sofa in my parents' house 'cause they couldn't get to the hospital on time. Marc ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 12:01:35 1997 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (SL Collins) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:01:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Names In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Whats in a name ? Had Belle and Sebastian been named after a diferentkids cartoon - mysterious cities of gold for instance - would they have been the same band ? The songs could have been the same but their overall appeal wouldnt. The name gives them a warm and lovely aura - so much so that you want to reach out and hug them and then go for a walk in the andes or wherever. There is a definable character to the band indvidual to their actual character which is so because of the fact that they have this name. Ive taken it too far but there is something in it I think . And they namecheck themselves in so many songs - they perhaps hide behind the fictional characters of B&S to allow them to explore stories and ideas within the songs. I'm not normally like this; I just finished a seminar all about youth culture in the 50's, 60's and 70's which has affected my head. My tutor said that a female friend of his in about 62 went to university and in order to shock her parents she wore a duffle coat and her hair in pigtails. A whole other world. Michael Terwey - can I have my tape of the Lamacq session back please ? What a dull message Bye..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 12:33:09 1997 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (Simon Tyers) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 12:33:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: why this is important? In-Reply-To: <66A18B72914@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk>; from "Dazza" at Nov 3, 97 5:59 pm Message-ID: <199711041233.MAA04032@maple.cms.dmu.ac.uk> > You mean "poet" M*rr*y L*chl*n Y**ng. Look,just because he works with Mary Ann Hobbs... Simon Tyers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 12:35:15 1997 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (Simon Tyers) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 12:35:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: registers... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971103135542.006811c4@student.let.uva.nl>; from "Eeyore" at Nov 03, 97 2:55 pm Message-ID: <199711041235.MAA04042@maple.cms.dmu.ac.uk> > > Since everyone is so hot on registers at the moment (and since I am so bored > today...), why not check out what the average listee's age and occupation > are? Just to have something to do, you know..... Right. Age : 18 and 10 months,occupation : University student,weekend work in an accountant's. Simon Tyers. PS. Someone advised me against buying B&S EP's in HMV : I was browsing around there last week,and they still have copies of all three. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 12:37:31 1997 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (Simon Tyers) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 12:37:31 GMT Subject: Sinister: football Message-ID: <199711041237.MAA04057@maple.cms.dmu.ac.uk> Just how many other members of the Leicester City mailing list are there here? It seems to be overrun with them since someone mentioned them recently. Simon Tyers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 12:44:06 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (James Ng) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:44:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song chords/lyrics In-Reply-To: <66AE3D2564E@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Dazza wrote: > Just A Modern Rock Song > We're four boys in a [???] > We're not terrific but we're competent > > [?] = lyrics I'm particularly mystified by or unable to hear. > Can anyone help? > > cheers > Dazza As far as I can hear, that particular line is: 'We're four boys in our corduroys,' So there you go. James. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PMA97CW at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 12:57:51 1997 From: PMA97CW at xxx.uk (Chris Worth) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:57:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk in manchester Message-ID: <76284829C7@derwent.shef.ac.uk> As regards trying to locate a copy of Tigermilk in Manchester, may I suggest that the best place to try is Vinyl Exchange. They have an extensive selection of rarities, and even if they don't have a copy, I'm sure they wouldn't mind ringing around. Details: age 19 occupation student loves er, music, doing as little exercise as possible this is crap; i feel like i'm doing a lonely hearts ad or something!! >From what I've read so far, the majority of people on this list seem to be either students or computer analysts, or something else to do with computers. Later, Chris. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 13:19:11 1997 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 13:19:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: Football (again). Message-ID: <199711041319.NAA08775@brookes.ac.uk> It must be a connection between Midlands football teams and B&S, as I'm a Forest fan, and I know of at least one other on the list. I'm 27 (pushing that B&S average age up), and am a physiology technician here in dull Oxford (except when it's sound city, or when B&S play !!). Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 14:26:27 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:26:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: football Message-ID: <199711041447.OAA09548@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> > Just how many other members of the Leicester City mailing list are > there here? It seems to be overrun with them since someone mentioned > them recently. > > Simon Tyers. > [Hopkins T] I reckon I'm the only member of the Exeter City mailing list on here, if that's any help. TimH begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(A<.`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0 at 36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02``0`7````4D4Z(%-I M;FES=&5R.B!F;V]T8F%L;`#O!P$)@`$`(0```#`'```0```!,```!3 M:6YI2`:8&@$ MD!MP90;0(P20!"!O9B`;X2!,'F4-X`>0&G`%P$-I=,\;L`#``Q`+@&<@&4`; M$1\*P!T`&^(=`!\R/R!)CP5`$1`<0`0@=&\@'&#E&\!V!)!R=0.@`_`;X'T< MTFT@``N`'5`@``-P9:\"(!T`!X`",&DBD60AE,<54!U0`C!L>2X8B`J`QE,' M<`(@(%1Y''$D2Q\7,PPR&D4"T1%`6TAO3'!K"X`$(%1=`S!B70%`:1%`']`C MLFLE04E^)R'0'.("("0@'"4!$@'9\>HB5!'S(L(.,&D!S1870G!"`; MDAOP[&QP)$4'84 at 9_1B$$P$"`##@'@`Q0`$````/````041!5$=(1#`V.3,T M1C4```,`&D``````'@`P0`$````/````041!5$=(1#`V.3,T1C4```,`&4`` M`````P`V```````+``:`""`&``````#`````````1@`````#A0````````,` M"(`((`8``````,````````!&`````%*%``"W#0``'@`)@`@@!@``````P``` M`````$8`````5(4```$````$````."XP``,`"H`((`8``````,````````!& M``````&%````````"P`+@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````#H4````````# M``>`""`&``````#`````````1@`````0A0````````,`#(`((`8``````,`` M``````!&`````!&%`````````P`-@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````&(4` M```````>``Z`""`&``````#`````````1@`````VA0```0````$````````` M'@`/@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````-X4```$````!`````````!X`$(`( M(`8``````,````````!&`````#B%```!`````0`````````#`"8```````,` M@!#_____`@'Y/P$```!T`````````-RG0,C`0A`:M+D(`"LOX8(!````!@`` M`"]//4Q!3D-!4U1%4B!53DE615)32519+T]5/4U334%)3"]#3CU214-)4$E% M3E13+T-./4U3($U!24P at 4D5#25!)14Y44R]#3CU!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0`> M`/@_`0````H```!(;W!K:6YS(%0````>`#A``0````\```!!1$%41TA$,#8Y M,S1&-0```@'[/P$```!T`````````-RG0,C`0A`:M+D(`"LOX8(!````!@`` M`"]//4Q!3D-!4U1%4B!53DE615)32519+T]5/4U334%)3"]#3CU214-)4$E% M3E13+T-./4U3($U!24P at 4D5#25!)14Y44R]#3CU!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0`> M`/H_`0````H```!(;W!K:6YS(%0````>`#E``0````\```!!1$%41TA$,#8Y M,S1&-0``0``',""#1(DMZ;P!0``(,%".K\(MZ;P!'@`]``$````%````4D4Z M(``````>`!T.`0```!,```!3:6YI Did someone ask for the talkie bits from the 'I Could be Dreaming' version B&S did on a Radio 1 session? If they did, then I ken most of it, else please ignore the rest of this message: - 'today we went to the [?] and we all stuck are hands in and i told us lots of things about our life and our future...' - 'back on the B, Richard' - 'What did you say? What are you saying to me?!? I'm talking what we did today, I'm telling them- I'n telling them how it is. We drove about in our big red AMK van. - 'They called us winsome- but we're just hopeless. [??????] [??????] We could've done it ourselves We should give up' - 'Hi Vanessa!' - We should give up...we should stop... just...round about.. now!' Anyone know what the missing bits [??] are???? ======================================= = Mail me at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk = = = = or: J.C.Y.Ng at warwick.ac.uk = ======================================= James Ng ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Tue Nov 4 15:05:18 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:05:18 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Football (again). In-Reply-To: <199711041319.NAA08775@brookes.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, ben ferneyhough wrote: > I'm 27 (pushing that > B&S average age up) Stop it, stop it, STOP IT! Rhys said earlier he was amazed to realise he was one year older to the say than Stuart M, well I am HORRIFIED to report that this is looked after by someone who is TEN years minus one day older than Sarah. Yes that's 33, and an ex-astronomer who now looks after the computers at the Univ of Edinburgh. Now I bet you all want to unsubscribe. This age distribution is skewed horribly I reckon (I hope!) by people either too young or more likely too old wanting to admit it. Please someone come out and pretend to be older than me or something. Or give me a medal for still liking decent music and caring at my age. Or something. Someone mentioned about wearing pigtails to shock people in 62 and how it was another world then. Well, ask Linda, I tied my hair back in a ponytail the other day and my Dad (30 proud years as a Cadbury's personnel manager) nearly had a heart seizure. I'm trying the pigtails idea next week. Anyway, keep the Tigermilks coming, I am adding them up, very impressed and hoping to forget all this age stuff until someone admits they're over 40 at which point I will cease to fear I'm about to go out and buy a Neil Diamond LP. I'm actually much more interested in the *gender* spread of the list, but too shy to ask. Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net P.S. Hint to the aged: Mogwai keeps away those wrinkles ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From wow at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 15:10:58 1997 From: wow at xxx.uk (totv) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 97 15:10:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Copy of Tigermilk Message-ID: <878655807.2023395.0@totv.demon.co.uk> I've got a copy of Tigermilk because I wrote to Electric Honey and asked for one and said that I would try and mention it on a TV programme I was working on. It never arrived (so it was never mentioned) and I left the company. Electric Honey eventually sent the record but no one knew what it was. It was still in the office when I returned 6 months later and now it is in my record collection at home. It is my favourite B and S record - I like funny little stories in songs. They will never again have that lovely innocence and almost surprised wonder of their own ability. The cover is really brilliant aswell. By the way, and I hope nobody minds me mentioning this, but the programme I was working on was called The Adam and Joe Show and the second series returns on November 22nd 11.00pm on Channel 4. Its really funny and Adam likes Belle and Sebastian, especially 'Expectations' and puts it on all his compilation tapes. Thanks ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlang at xxx.com Tue Nov 4 15:22:50 1997 From: mlang at xxx.com (Matrix) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 10:22:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Age.... Message-ID: Jeez, you people are makin me feel old... I am recently turned 27 but I honestly feel about 19. I play synthesizer in a NYC Chamber pop act called the Favorite Color (we coined the term Chamber pop, It means cello based rock like B&S, High Llamas, the Left Banke, etc.). Of course, I have a job to pay the rent... I work for a rock promoter/movie producer but of course it doesn't help my band nearly as much as I would like it to. I do get to see Stereolab this week and the High Llamas the next for friggedy free. steven charles matrick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From p.higgins at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 15:45:08 1997 From: p.higgins at xxx.uk (Peter Higgins) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 15:45:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hmmm... Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971104154508.007b5210@www.csm-li.co.uk> Dear all, just to add to the statistical maelstrom - I'm a librarian, believe it or not, and I'm 29. Wish I still felt like a student, but I'm afraid those days are gone... Changing the subject entirely, that NME article was hilarious! The message seemed to be that BandS didn't want to talk to NME, and, when they finally did, they didn't say what NME wanted to hear. The music papers must be so used to bands begging to get into print, that behaviour like this must leave them all flustered and confused, poor dears. Bye for now, Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ibarrett at xxx.ie Tue Nov 4 15:42:00 1997 From: ibarrett at xxx.ie (Ian Barrett [94466815-EE]) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 97 15:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: birthdays Message-ID: > > > >the internet movie database will let you search for >birthdates. 16th january is given by: > >http://us.imdb.com/M/on-this-day?day=16&month=January > >and turns up kate moss, john carpenter (and about 50 or so >others). it'll also show you deaths and marriages and films >that opened: the apartment (one of my favourite films) >opened (albeit in sweden) on your birthday in 1961. > >andy >sat here, bored, waiting for email... I've just done that for my birthday 24/ 5 / 77 and it turns up libby kennedy from neighbours and eric cantona oh yeah, i'm a student too ; electronic engineering ian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 15:46:40 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:46:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: computer appeal Message-ID: All this spilling of personal beans about ourselves has given me an outasight idea to raise money for the great computer appeal. We've all been mailing in with our personal info, right? This is the kind of demographic data the evil corporations of the world would pay big money for. They'd love to get inside our heads to see what's what in order to sell us more of their godforsaken merchandise. I say we let them! What with us being fans of the hottest band around we can command a premium price just for telling people what we think is cool and the latest words the "kids" are using for shagging! Most of us are in that key demographic age band 18-24 that advertisers are keen to target so we can charge even more!!. (I'm not any more and I had a strange moment of late 20's angst when i realised I was no longer the kind of thrusting young buck people want to sell beer to. And I don't even drink!) hot love john xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Tue Nov 4 16:01:43 1997 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: 4 Nov 1997 16:01:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: crap really... Message-ID: Superbob, maybe you can help. Speech and Language processing Mphil ... bloody difficult. Does Acoustic engineering have any connections to this? Anyway, 22yrs, Scottish, from the talented (so it seems) West end of Glasgow and student in Dublin. And no , no copy of Tigermilk although I remember seeing it in Fopp loads, thought of buying it and never ( I hadn't actually heard any of their stuff at this point) so I am now kicking myself. Oh well...... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmf at xxx.net Tue Nov 4 16:08:59 1997 From: jmf at xxx.net (John) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:08:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: who what where Message-ID: <01bce93b$f5d43a40$4a0181c2@JohnF.plc.psion.com> Sorry, I'm not writing to say that you're disc is worth billions - just wondering how many other people on this list are in London? -----Original Message----- From: Johnston, John CT To: 'sinister' Date: 04 November 1997 13:49 Subject: Sinister: who what where > >hello gang > >I neglected to locate my Tigermilk when I registered. It lives with me >in Hammersmith, West London. I looked anew upon it last night (making >your tape John!) and found that etched in a spidery hand on the vinyl >it said something like "tm (tim?) a masterpiece". Am I showing my >ignorance here? Does it say that on all records - does it say that on >yours? > >To identify myself - I'm one of the JJs on this list, I'm 27, I do >intranet pages for a big computer company and I heartily enjoy a good >cup of tea. > >hot love > >john >xxx >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 16:19:11 1997 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:19:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: football Message-ID: <8A7CE2A1803@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> > > [Hopkins T] I reckon I'm the only member of the Exeter City > mailing list on here, if that's any help. > TimH Ditto Watford FC for me! Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul.Dean at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 15:27:48 1997 From: Paul.Dean at xxx.uk (Paul Dean) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:27:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song missing bits Message-ID: Whoops I knew i'd find one of these in my mailbox this morning. I went home last night & played the session & singing along i knew instantly it was LUCID & not HAPPY. I can only hope you can forgive this minor aberration Sorry! Paul (Chesterfield FC supporter - a Northern team, not from the Midlands Oh No sireee!) >---------- >From: R.E.W. Butler[SMTP:rewb2 at xxx.uk] >Sent: 03 November 1997 19:21 >To: Belle and Sebastian mailing list >Subject: Re: Sinister: Modern Rock Song missing bits > > > >On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Paul Dean wrote: > >> >Well I could tell you what I'm thinking >> >But it never seems to do you good >> >It's beyond me what a girl can see >> >[?] when I'm riding buses >> I'M ONLY HAPPY WHEN I'M RIDING BUSES?? > >I hear it as 'I'm only lucid when I'm riding buses' - I hope that's right, >'cos I love it like that. > >Love to all > >Rob >xxx > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ta4091 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 17:06:49 1997 From: ta4091 at xxx.uk (Dazza) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:06:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Football (again). Message-ID: <68136F40FC6@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> > This age distribution is skewed horribly I reckon (I hope!) by people > either too young or more likely too old wanting to admit it. Please > someone come out and pretend to be older than me or something. Or give me > a medal for still liking decent music and caring at my age. Or something. OK. I'm 107. Dazza ************ Tick, tick, tick, the machine continued. Time was passing. The audience was wandering, dispersing. Only the tick tick of the gramophone held them together. ************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Nov 4 22:32:13 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (superbob) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 97 14:32:13 PST Subject: Sinister: sumpin' new Message-ID: i know something we can do that will get on some people's nerves and take up a lot of mail space. it's kinda similiar to the stats thing. what's everyone's claim to fame? i'll start. 1.) in 1992 i had dinner in burger king with martin and rob and sice from boo radleys. i ended up hanging out with them all night and woke up in a stupor on the tour bus at five in the morning not quite remembering how i got there. 2.) i snuck onto the band GENE's tour bus a couple years back (again, in a drunken stupor) and began telling them they'll never be as good as the smiths. the singer was rolling a big fat doobie and the guitar player was giving an interview to one of my friends from a rival radio station. needless to say i was kicked off the bus. 3.) i got a picture of me shaking hands with david j (he of bauhaus and love and rockets). 4.)and, pertaining to belle and sebastian in high school, in french class, the teacher re-named me sebastian, and thus i was called sebastian for two years by everyone in the school. i was born on elvis' birthday (jan. 8) that's it for me. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Nov 4 17:22:59 1997 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 12:22:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: no subject Message-ID: <971104122016_1791443727@emout05.mail.aol.com> Hi, I was just introduced to B&S about a week ago and they are my favorite band. I heard If You're Feeling Sinister and I think it is lovely. Anyway, is there any possible way that I could get a hold of anything else they have done. I live in America, so I think their merchandise is pretty rare here. I'd be willing to pay for postage and anything else... thanks. Tami ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PMA97CW at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 17:31:24 1997 From: PMA97CW at xxx.uk (Chris Worth) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 17:31:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: exeter fc Message-ID: <7AB7787DA0@derwent.shef.ac.uk> TimH: I know someone who's on the Exeter F.C. mailing list, but unfortunately I'm not on it myself as I don't like Football. It's to do with the exercise involved; I'd much rather go to sleep. Chris. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Nov 3 20:52:48 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 3 Nov 1997 20:52:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: kissing just for practise Message-ID: Hey people you're so fine, you're so fine you blow my mind, hey people (clap clap clap) hey people (clap clap clap)!!! Hi. thanks for the poem al! I got it after my bus hadn't come in the morning and it cheered me up! OK-some stuff for you: The line from JAMRS runs- "we're four boys in our courdoroys" (sarahs really chuffed she knows something!) To Susanna, hi me dear, bollocks. I was thinking I'm the youngest on the list-I'm 16, but doing A-levels. Nooo-it's a sixth former arsehole....please don't run away, I'm one of the nicer ones! honestly...! And yup, I be the only one round my way who has heard of B&S. Well, no, I have told people about them, but I know no FANS. The list meet in London-why the hell not, everything else seems to be down there, says the bitter and cynical one. from up north! PLEASE when are the B&S gigs in Manchester? You've had them down south! But a list meet oop north...?!? Nevr mind, I'd go to London, but being poor and sacked from job (due to guy fleeing to Ireland coz of taxman)I can't afford it-BUT I WANT TO! Sod it. Oh, and I remeber other people coming up with questions re: AFK van, or whatever, I've forgotten just at the mo'-its a German familly transporter, some dodgy car..or so they said...it wasn't in relation to B&S tho' so it might be different. Lovehearts and stars and at least AFK van soundz better than bicycle made for two-which however would be..interesting! :) -- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ta4091 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 18:07:54 1997 From: ta4091 at xxx.uk (Dazza) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:07:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pocketbook Angel chords Message-ID: <6823B8C6B2B@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> First draftish - the "write it all down" sections may well be wrong. Pocketbook Angel A B Hey, I'm down on the city lane D I guess I am broke again A Summer is such a pain Yeah, I'm down on the city floor I guess I am pretty bored Least I am not alone Cause here she comes again Oh I saw her just yesterday She looked at me in a certain way Cause she's a pocketbook angel And I know she fakes the limp Cause I saw her in Littlewoods Well she was getting some frozen food She just wants to be goofy Bm I've seen her write it all down D I've seen her write it all down I've seen her write it all down A I've seen her write it all down C#m G Cause of all the things she sees Bm Cause of all the things she sees F G A Things she sees Yeah, she's got it all on computer disk Cause she's a marketing analyst I sometimes wonder what she's got on me Oh sure, I had a job in an office one I never talked to anyone All I ever do is st around She told me over tea She's not working for another boss She got fired but it was their loss She's a pocket book angel And now all the kids have got pocketbooks I guess it's the way it looks Their cosmopolitan diaries Bm I've seen her write it all down D I've seen her write it all down I've seen her write it all down A I've seen her write it all I've seen her write it all down I've seen her write it all down G I've seen her write it all down Bm I've seen her write it all I've seen her write it all down I've seen her write it all down A I've seen her write it all down I've seen her write it all down Cause of all the things she does Cause of all the things she sees Things she sees cheers Dazza ************ Tick, tick, tick, the machine continued. Time was passing. The audience was wandering, dispersing. Only the tick tick of the gramophone held them together. ************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mbcx7sjc at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 18:27:01 1997 From: mbcx7sjc at xxx.uk (Sebastian J Copley) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:27:01 GMT Subject: Sinister: Salutations Message-ID: Hi People I have just subscribed, so am not sure if this thing will work. I have enjoyed reading all your mail, even though there was quite alot. I am a student in my first year at manchester uni, doing a physics course. I am also new to B and S, although by coincidence my name is actually Sebastian, which was not much fun when the cartoon was on TV as i had the piss taken almost constantly. Does anybody know when and where the manchester dates are in december because i really feel i must see them live, as they have had such amazing reviews and such a good reputation. Time to go as i have rock hard example sheets to do Bye All Seb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Nov 4 18:24:30 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 18:24:30 GMT Subject: Sinister: Sarapalooza In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34606822.324713@email.mcmail.com> Hello boys and girls I have a horrible feeling this is going to prompt death threats for me, but....well, it's about Sarah records. Yes, the Orchids were great, the Field Mice had many moments to treasure and I liked the way Heavenly failed so charmingly to be the Shangs, but er, can I upset the apple cart again? You see, I really didn't like the label, as an institution, there always seemed to be an air of the soul-destroyingly politically correct and of narrow-minded preciousness. And the result was that, while fellow fanzinists and guitar pop stalwarts of the late 80s (the likes of Stereolab and Saint Etienne) were trying new and exciting things, spreading their wings and embracing pop music in all its forms, Sarah were shunning 99% of it, and populating the label with interchangeable fey indieboys with floppy fringes and rickenbackers, and becoming a parody of themselves. I was genuinely thrilled by 'Are you scared to get happy?' at the age of 18, and I know Matt and Claire wholehearted believed in what they were doing, but their ramblings became increasingly irritating and pictures of cherries and disused railway lines didn't scream 'POP' but Middle England. So for all those people bemused by the mentions of Sarah records, don't think you're missing out too much. Belle and Sebastian aren't the logical progression of Sarah. I don't even see them as an indie band, indie is a lonely place where the catalogue number is mightier than the melody. Ultimately these songs make me catch my breath and give me the same rush as 'Disney Girls', a girl group weepie, a Northern Soul stomper, or anything written by Serge Gainsbourg or Robert Forster, something that a million Gentle Despites with a million typewriters could never do in a million years. Just my opinion... love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 06:46:21 1997 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 22:46:21 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Sarapalooza? Pah.... Message-ID: >I was genuinely thrilled by 'Are you scared to get happy?' at the age >of 18, and I know Matt and Claire wholehearted believed in what they >were doing, but their ramblings became increasingly irritating and >pictures of cherries and disused railway lines didn't scream 'POP' but >Middle England. > First of all it's Clare. Second of all, if you think your 'ramblings' didn't become 'increasingly irritating'...you're mistaken. Thankfully.....More people disagree with you, than agree.....The ones who share your opinionated..... opinions are the ones marked out with WARNING SIGNS saving people like me, us....Sarah fans.....from the likes of you. I'm still confused as to why you posted this on the 'Sinister' list.....Not everyone here are Sarah fans, but everyone here does, or should, share a common love for Belle & Sebastian. Ohhhhh. What a rebel. Just like the big skinheads who use to throw rocks at the wee Smiths fans in the beer gardens in Cheltenham, back in '89 (yes, I realize they'd broken up by then).....Perhaps if I had known about cherries and trainstations then....I would have been so much happier. kirk out. one to beam up. beth P.S. Gob bless floppy fringe, Rickenbackers, Matt, Clare, boys in bunny shirts, and making a parody of ourselves...... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Nov 4 18:46:51 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 19:46:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Rough Guide References: <34588F66.78C06DD2@colon.net.> <345DD165.5769@virgin.net> Message-ID: <345F6D9B.9C61D78D@colon.net.> Katrina at Jeepster wrote: > - initial lp title (stuart m's anyway) was Cock fun. > I've said it once and I'll say it again....always trust your first instincts. Can you imagine the subject heading for each message? "Re: Cock: Spam", for example. Cock Fun...Cock Fun....it's got a nice ring to it, don't you think? Cock Fun... > - stuart won't release dog ep in other countries, as it > doesn't feature > all the band. > Good. That's another collector's item then. > aarrrgghh ... overload! > that's enough for now, questions might help, then i know > what you want. > What does Stef look like?How old is Mark Jones? Why was the name "Cock Fun" rejected for the vastly inferior "..Sinister...", eh? > cheers, > katrina. Cheers to you too, I've enjoyed this little insight into the workings of the music industry. off for a bit of cock fun, Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Nov 4 18:28:17 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 19:28:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER References: Message-ID: <345F6941.57EAE263@colon.net.> Johnston, John CT wrote: > aka My deepest darkest secret... > > I have a copy of Tigermilk and, gulp, I've scratched it! > Just a little > bit in the middle of State I am In - only my most > favourite song ever. > I'm really sorry, I know some of you are probably thinking > "How could he > be so stupid" but it was an accident. I was playing it > non-stop on my > knackered record player and it happened. I really do feel > bad, I mean > I'm so lucky to have a copy at all and look what I do to > it. It's like a > religious icon, a knuckle bone of St Frideswide or a > geometry set of St > Ignatius of Loyola? I've been round his house. Religious bloke, king of the jesuits or something. Creepy place, full of religious nuts all over. Nice ice cream shop. > - rare stuff that should be treasured. > Scartching rare records is all part of the pop experience. I congratulate you for being number one punk rocker on the list. A knackered record player too! Cool beyond the call of duty. Keep the faith, mutha Peter PS. Paul didn't bore me at all. He's being self deprecating because he's got a cold. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 16:08:08 1997 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 16:08:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: registers... Message-ID: <00020E61.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> The Archdeacon of Pop is 25 and is a journalism student at Napier university in Edinburgh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.168) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00020112; Mon, 3 Nov 97 19:42:49 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id TAA22939 for sinister-outgoing; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:22:11 GMT Received: from svr-a-03.core.theplanet.net (svr-a-03.core.theplanet.net [194.152.64.45]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA22935 for ; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:22:08 GMT Received: from prsl4tny [194.152.70.166] by svr-a-03.core.theplanet.net with smtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 0xSS5U-0001mW-00; Mon, 3 Nov 1997 19:23:01 +0000 Date: Mon, 03 Nov 1997 19:21:47 GMT X-Mailer: Virtual Access by Ashmount Research Ltd Message-Id: To: s9720251 at student.let.uva.nl Cc: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Re: Sinister: registers... From: Mike Newman Organization: TraumaNET In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971103135542.006811c4 at student.let.uva.nl> Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Mike Newman From bijoux13 at xxx.com Tue Nov 4 18:52:17 1997 From: bijoux13 at xxx.com (Felicia Daniel) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 10:52:17 PST Subject: Sinister: registers... Message-ID: <19971104185218.27319.qmail@hotmail.com> thought i'd poke my head in for a second... i'm 24 (that looks to be around the average)...live in los angeles...have the somewhat perplexing job of working at the tape library at mtv. for the curious, there are no belle and sebastian videos in the library, but there is one pastels video. also, i don't mean to rat anyone out, but i've seen a copy of tigermilk at the famed testcard towers in hoboken, new jersey, which is presided over by one keith d'arcy. xo felicia ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 19:14:13 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 19:14:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: (not) Football (again). References: Message-ID: <345F7405.2711D78E@mail.zynet.co.uk> > This age distribution is skewed horribly I > reckon (I hope!) by people > either too young or more likely too old wanting > to admit it. Please > someone come out and pretend to be older than me > or something. Or give me > a medal for still liking decent music and caring > at my age. Or something. ho hum, i was trying to avoid responding to all this hoo-ha, but here we go: i'm (cough) 31 and i teach art and design to a bunch of ingrates in a dull town in Devon. (Tim, amongst others will tell you the best thing about this town is it's by-pass). I don't live in said town, however, preferring the rarified atmosphere of Exeter. I am constantly plugging B&S, and yesterday stuck up big posters for Sinister and the Glasgow/Edinburgh shows (thanks Leslie, a bunch of things on the way as trade!) on my wall, to which a few yr10 responded today with admiration. I've also a collection of promo photos, clippings, the cartoon... etc up to show how hip i am :-). Not content woth this, I also played them and talked about them in assemblies recently for yr 10 and 11, so now they all at least know the name and the alleged story of how they formed! A number have also asked for tapes and badges... Oh yeah, and all the expressive arts dept now sport the enamel badges, and the Duchess, who teaches english, wears a dog on wheels button. Are we the coolest teachers in Britain?? ha ha. > P.S. Hint to the aged: Mogwai keeps away those > wrinkles oh indeed they do, indeed they do. Marvellous. keep the faith, 'kids'! the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 19:07:51 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 19:07:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song missing bits References: Message-ID: <345F7287.919E69E7@mail.zynet.co.uk> R.E.W. Butler wrote: > On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Paul Dean wrote: > > > >Well I could tell you what I'm thinking > > >But it never seems to do you good > > >It's beyond me what a girl can see > > >[?] when I'm riding buses > > I'M ONLY HAPPY WHEN I'M RIDING BUSES?? > > I hear it as 'I'm only lucid when I'm riding > buses' - I hope that's right, > 'cos I love it like that. there's another version where it goes 'i'm only lucid when i'm writing songs'. I think this is the version that will be on the next ep...? keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faeiry at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 19:32:00 1997 From: faeiry at xxx.uk (faeiry) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:32:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hello? Message-ID: hey! how many peopl on the list are from London, or near London? near being an alternative to about half an hour/hour by train? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 19:39:13 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (R.E.W. Butler) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 19:39:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: hello? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, faeiry wrote: > hey! how many peopl on the list are from London, or near London? near > being an alternative to about half an hour/hour by train? Me! I'm near London most of the time. Is anyone from London/near London going up to Manchester for the gigs, or at least thinking about doing so, 'cos I'm sorely tempted but have no idea how I'll get there or where I'll stay. Anyone else in the same situation? Love to all Rob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 20:49:05 1997 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 97 20:49:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Students or Boffins? Message-ID: <199711041939.TAA06358@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >>From what I've read so far, the majority of people on this list seem >to be either students or computer analysts, or something else to do >with computers. > >Later, >Chris. Guilty. I'm 27 years of age and a Graphic Designer/Mac Operator/DJ/promoter (a stereotype, I know). >- I spend loads of time doing constant copies for people in Edinburgh, who want their tapes >replaced and stuff, Paul, I'll do you another one, it's not a scratched record, it's fine, >it'll be my 20 year old tape player having a bad day more than likely. Incidentally, I've >been on holiday and ill last week. >[Keith Watson] ill - I'd suspected as much. Shame you missed the night Keith. I posted a report to the list which should be in the web site archive thingy! Bit of an unfortunate way to spend a holiday - isn't there any way you can claim cash for your 'lost' holiday days while ill? (unlikely, eh?). By the way I've probably contributed to the tape's rapidly diminishing quality by playing it too often! Byee, Paul "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Tue Nov 4 20:23:48 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:23:48 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: here's an inquiry for you... In-Reply-To: <345F7405.2711D78E@mail.zynet.co.uk> References: Message-ID: does anyone out there have any sort of B&S poster/picture/wrapper/ANYTHING that might be used as wall decor? I would love to have something of theirs (a promo poster for one of the EPs, say) but as of yet my search for B&S memorabilia has not been fruitful. all I have is the ticket stub from the NY gig that I went to, and the tiny Dog on Wheels pin that they gave out for free there. nothing particularly suited for wall aesthetics. we could arrange a trade of some kind, if anyone out there can help me out... please email me directly if you've got the goods and would be willing to share... thanks! Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "I don't love anyone..." --Belle and Sebastian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Tue Nov 4 20:53:06 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 20:53:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sarah Records In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971104205306.0068f164@mail.u-net.com> >First of all it's Clare. Oh for heavens sake don't be so ridiculously pedantic!! >Thankfully.....More people disagree with you, than agree.....The ones who >share your opinionated..... opinions are the ones marked out with WARNING >SIGNS saving people like me, us....Sarah fans.....from the likes of you. What on earth does THAT mean? I don't agree with *everything* mr Tag says , I quite liked Sarah, but I gave up with them around the Sarah 40 mark.. They got rather dull..too much Brighter and Gentle Despite and the Harvest Ministers etc. >I'm still confused as to why you posted this on the 'Sinister' list.... Perhaps because Belle and Sebastian are similar, they do what they want to, release what they want to, do it their own way? Sarah did this..they wanted POP songs on 7" eps with sleeve inserts, no one was doing it so they did it themselves..in the end they had to give in to 12" singles and god forbid even CD's, just because they had to, to make money to carry on.. JJ ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 20:58:46 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:58:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: famous stuff! Message-ID: Famous stuff? I met Gruff Rhys SFA and he has some ofthe LOVLIEST brown eyes EVER! And Huw (richard ellis) from Eastenders after the Manics gig at the Nynex! He's really nice! AND Ideal...less said about that the better! Who else can't wait for B&S gigs in Manchester! To whoever said this..Korfball? Excuse me? I am 16 and at 6th form college- feel so left out not being at uni/computer programmer! HOWEVER! I might be lying and be 34! Happy Paul? For the average ages thing, count me'n'Paul together and we'd be about average for everyone else wouldn't we! Lovehearts and stars and quick bye byes coz...er, theres something else I have to do, oh yeah, make fliers for my zine, FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM, mail me for further info! -- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 21:40:44 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 21:40:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: here's an inquiry for you... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In message , Amanda Bergman writes >does anyone out there have any sort of B&S poster/picture/wrapper/ANYTHING >that might be used as wall decor? I would love to have something of theirs >(a promo poster for one of the EPs, say) but as of yet my search for B&S >memorabilia has not been fruitful. all I have is the ticket stub from the >NY gig that I went to, and the tiny Dog on Wheels pin that they gave out >for free there. nothing particularly suited for wall aesthetics. babe, you got more than me. I've been looking for stuff too..again unsucessfully, I have just blown stuff up (in size b4 anyone makes any amusing bomber jokes!)avec the lovlier photocopier! > Lovehearts and stars and inky fingers sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From g.gregorini at xxx.it Tue Nov 4 22:34:52 1997 From: g.gregorini at xxx.it (Giuseppe Gregorini) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:34:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: This is your grandad speaking Message-ID: <01bce971$de7c5e00$af55cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Oh no! Am I really the oldest? Your grandad is just 34 but in good shape (well, there's a strange buzz in my hearing aid, but nothing more). I'm a useless geologist.....now selling, er, dogfood and other pet stuff. Like JJ I stopped buying Sarah after #40-50. Too predictable and flat. Bye Giuseppe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tangent at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 22:19:05 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 22:19:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sarapalooza? Pah.... References: Message-ID: <345F9F59.974BD337@mail.zynet.co.uk> Madame Cholet wrote: > >I was genuinely thrilled by 'Are you scared to > get happy?' at the age > >of 18, and I know Matt and Claire wholehearted > believed in what they > >were doing, but their ramblings became > increasingly irritating and > >pictures of cherries and disused railway lines > didn't scream 'POP' but > >Middle England. > > > First of all it's Clare. Second of all, if you > think your 'ramblings' > didn't become 'increasingly irritating'...you're > mistaken. > Thankfully..... (beth then rambles on for a while...) and i drop by and say, hey, can i sit on your fence? Because i agree wholeheartedly with what (Mc)Taggart said about Gentle Despite, and agree that a lot of what Sarah records released was self-parodied and redundant (i mean, that group, what were they called? Aberdeen? they were the pits...), but i also want to hug beth because she gets it soooo right about what was so great about Sarah, and how getting up the noses of people like (maybe) Robert was part of the whole damn appeal. The Orchids took shed loads of drugs and drank like fishes. So, i would hazzard a guess, did loads of others (certainly the drinking bit..), but what they did NOT appear to do was adhere to the tired old rock'n'roll rhetoric in the way they made records. Top marks for that. And i believe there ARE parallels to draw with B&S, if not simply for the fact that in the NME 'interview' when Richard jokes about putting warning stickers on their records saying that the records might contain tweeness. Pure Sarah. And the fact that they get up the nose of the NME / the music press. Pure Sarah. Sarah records operated well outside of the norm where 'indie' music is concerned, and so do B&S. Sarah records was prinicipled (you may have disagreed with the principles and say that they held un-trendy -today- pc-friendly political views, and that's your perogative), and so too are B&S (or at least they appear that way - if you believe the NME it's more by accident that design, but since when did you believe the NME?).Sarah records meant almost nothing to me after Sarah 50, and only a handful of the early singles actually still make me delighted, but that's hardly the point. What Sarah (and Matt & Clare by implication) did was to engender in many people that there was a world where you could escape the humdrum rampant dullness of rawk, without having to jump stylistic ship totally and go with, say, Hip Hop or Techno. And although i'd find that a bit blinkered, i fear that if i was sixteen i'd have felt the same. That i wasn't sixteen is probably a signifier as to why i'm more on the fence with this than others may be. I dunno. just my opinions :-) keep the faith, duke. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From maryrsf at xxx.com Tue Nov 4 23:11:14 1997 From: maryrsf at xxx.com (Annie) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 18:11:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Register Message-ID: <01bce976$f3123240$e52caccf@mary> Well I have been lurking around this list for quite awhile... I figure this register business will (maybe) motivate me to start posting. name: annie age: 17. yes I know very young. I'm not even in university yet. ha. location: washington dc. home to the dreaded fugazi and psuedo-situationists the make*up in addition to various monuments. misc: I do not own Tigermilk or the newest ep, am having severe trouble thinking of a meaningful event in my life to write for college apps. yeah yeah the old story. my claim to fame: I was once yelled at by N**l Gallagher. not too exciting, but it's certainly an amusing story to tell. anyway, I will stop wasting precious electrons here. -annie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barzy at xxx.com Tue Nov 4 23:16:26 1997 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 15:16:26 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Sarapalooza? Pah.... Message-ID: I agree totally with all The Duke said......It's not the cappin' on the Sarah bands that ersed me off....I didn't like alot of the last batch...i.e. Shelley, Ivy, Aberdeen.....(yes, I was in aberdeen...and if I wasn't I probably would have thought it shite.) but it's the dissin of the Sarah *feeling* and the whole motive behind it that got me...I wasn't defending it cause I was in some stupid Sarah band, and I resent the (few) messages I got implying so.....Matt and Clare were so fucking influential they should get nothing but praise....If a select wankers took it the wrong way.....Oh well. So i'm p.d.antric. or...whatever. Sometimes i'm even p.d.heaton....Tra la la. So my point...It's the whole deal I was backing, not the last 90 or 100 or whatever releases. No need to insult our cherries or fringe or Ricks. NYA. Tho...I don't really concider myself part of "Sarah Records" really...I just rode along on the wake for awhile ...But it was/is my favourite label, and honestly....i've not been as so desparately in love with a band (like I am with Belle & Sebastian) since...So perhaps there IS some connetion...I'd defend Belle & Sebastian to the death as well......don't get me wrong...but hey....the kids seem to be kicking enough ass on their own. Just remember when you're running your bigshot, bully mouths....about how crap and forced Sarah was... you're talking bout my g...g......gen er a tion. beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mbcx7sjc at xxx.uk Tue Nov 4 23:33:17 1997 From: mbcx7sjc at xxx.uk (Sebastian J Copley) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:33:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: hello? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 19:39:13 +0000 (GMT) > From: "R.E.W. Butler" > To: faeiry > Cc: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Re: Sinister: hello? > Reply-to: "R.E.W. Butler" > > > On Tue, 4 Nov 1997, faeiry wrote: > > > hey! how many peopl on the list are from London, or near London? near > > being an alternative to about half an hour/hour by train? > > Me! I'm near London most of the time. Is anyone from London/near London > going up to Manchester for the gigs, or at least thinking about doing so, > 'cos I'm sorely tempted but have no idea how I'll get there or where I'll > stay. Anyone else in the same situation? > > Love to all > > Rob > Hi Rob You don't know me but i would be grateful if you could tell me dates places for the manchester gigs, as i am a student up here who has just got into B and S, and really want to see them live. Please help Seb p.s. that is my real name > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Tue Nov 4 23:36:22 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 23:36:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Sarah shouting Message-ID: Just a gentle hint to turn the noise level down a bit about Sarah Records please. More sweet nothings about B&S required. Some of us older folks are trying to sleep. Nicola, you got any more National Express stories? It's still my favourite story :) That'll make everyone feel soft and squishy. Old Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 00:21:57 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 00:21:57 GMT Subject: Sinister: Sarapalooza? Pah.... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3460b196.3640495@email.mcmail.com> On Tue, 4 Nov 1997 22:46:21 -0800, Madame Cholet wrote: >First of all it's Clare. That's me shot down in flames then. >Second of all, if you think your 'ramblings' didn't become 'increasingly >irritating'...you're mistaken. >Thankfully.....More people disagree with you, than agree..... You may well be right. >The ones who share your opinionated..... opinions are the ones marked out with WARNING >SIGNS saving people like me, us....Sarah fans.....from the likes of you. Oh I feel so dangerous. I'd love to know what exactly I represent to you. I don't like the same music as you so I must be some sort of antichrist... >I'm still confused as to why you posted this on the 'Sinister' list..... Recently there have been a number of letters talking about Saropoly and so forth. Since the list has a lot of people under 24 who don't know about such things, some of whom were a little nonplussed, I figured it was a valid subject for discussion. If you'd read my letter, there was a link. I happen to think Belle and Sebastian more worthy of everyone's attention...that's just my opinion. >Not everyone here are Sarah fans, but everyone here does, or should, share a >common love for Belle & Sebastian. We do. As you would know if you'd read what I said. >What a rebel. Just like the big skinheads who use to throw rocks at the wee >Smiths fans in the beer gardens in Cheltenham, And your point is? > back in '89 (yes, I realize they'd broken up by then)..... Believe me, I had no intention of correcting you. >Perhaps if I had known about cherries and trainstations then....I >would have been so much happier. >P.S. Gob bless floppy fringe, Rickenbackers, Matt, Clare, boys in bunny >shirts, and making a parody of ourselves...... Bravo to you. You forgot ice-cream, flowers, and crayons. >We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? Frankly no. You try and get a lively discussion going and get shot down for it. I realised a lot of people wouldn't agree with me, but I didn't expect to be treated as 'The Man', or for people to take things personally. I've seen letters more innocuous than this criticised for 'flaming'. My letter had no personal malice in it, and I stressed that it was just my opinion. Thank you 'Madame Cholet', for your constructive critique, I promise never to have an opinion of my own again. Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jacques.buron at xxx.fr Wed Nov 5 01:32:53 1997 From: jacques.buron at xxx.fr (Walter) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 01:32:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Register References: <01bce976$f3123240$e52caccf@mary> Message-ID: <345FCCC5.469@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Well, it could be my turn, now... It's 1.30am, i've just finished working, i need to sleep, i'm listening to the B&S radio sessions and my favourite song is now Sleep the clock around... Name : Walter or Stephane (Hi Amanda!!!), as you wish (here, i'd prefer Walter if you don't mind) Age : ... 26 (no comment) Special Peculiarities : French, and even worse Parisian, working (too difficult to explain... too tired...), reading and reading again the Ink Polaroids I've just received from Stuard David, listening and listening again to the radio sessions (Hi Ben and thanks for the tape and the photos... I've lost your address), in love with I***** A****** G******* and L*****, bored at work and everywhere else except at *Le Popin* (Hi Jon!!!)... Who's next??? -- " Get me away from here, I'm dying..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 00:48:27 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 00:48:27 GMT Subject: Sinister: Sarapalooza? Pah....2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <345fc249.7916596@email.mcmail.com> I am not a bully, I was playing devil's advocate a little. Sarah started off with admirable intentions: passion, idealism and love. But it was soon hijacked by people with no imagination, playing at ickle 4 year olds (people who called themselves 'Neily Weely' for fuck's sake), and at that point all focus was lost. I realise Clare (phew, I spelt it right) rallied against such behaviour, but Sarah could have been so much better if they'd opened their eyes beyond the insipid little boy lost mentality. I never wanted power chords, drum solos, or 'madfrit', I just wanted the next Go-Betweens. Tag Paul don't worry that's my last word on the subject.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MayflyH at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 01:04:47 1997 From: MayflyH at xxx.com (MayflyH at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 20:04:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk + other bits Message-ID: <971104175915_286797009@mrin39> I ran to the record stores and got a copy due to a burning desire to hear 'The State...' again after hearing it on Radcliffe... must be the only LP I've bought on the strength of one song, lucky it was 'Tigermilk', then. It was #7.99 in the local indie store in Northampton, the other copy they had was bought by the boy next door (honest!), so that's two more accounted for... Sadly, I've managed to get a groove in 'The State..' so it goes 'b-by a dream.. b-by a dream' over and over until you can't stand it anymore... makes it unsellabe (is that a word?) I suppose, but then I don't want to sell it:) I'm 16 (sorry, it's not my fault!), doing A-levels, and I've just found out my birthday's 2 days before Stuart M's - nice bit of useless trivia - and it's the same day as Shaun Ryder's. Wow. Which means I bought 'Tigermilk' when I was 14 - does that make me cool or tragic? Or a bit of both? I thought the lyric was either 'I'm only lucid...' or 'elusive...'. And the 'we're four boys in our curduroys' lyric cheered me up for, like, the rest of my life. Hannahxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 04:38:43 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 23:38:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sarah and Beth References: Message-ID: <345FF853.6784@interaccess.com> Madame Cholet wrote: > I don't really concider myself part of > "Sarah Records" really...I just rode along on the wake for awhile HA! Beth made a pun :) ^^^^^^^^ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 04:34:11 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Tue, 04 Nov 1997 23:34:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: introductions/sumpin' new References: Message-ID: <345FF743.6B7A@interaccess.com> Since I'm a high level security engineer for the government I can't tell you where I live, exactly what I do, or how old I am; but I can tell you that I dated Stuart's Mom (both of them). I have deyermined that B&S are not a security risk, and can visit the US whenever they wish _as long as they visit Chicago_ superbob wrote: > what's everyone's claim to fame? I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you. Love and lollypops Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Nov 4 23:21:02 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 00:21:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: saropoly... belleopoly etc. References: <345E3DB1.263F159F@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <345FADDE.AED42784@colon.net.> alistair fitchett wrote: > > > keep the faith chums, > > the duke > > PS: Prize to the first person to spot my artfully > slotted in Pop reference. > "we had joy, we had fun, we had seasons in the sun..." and "splashing along...." two pop references! Go straight to jail, do not pass go.... Duke, your real name has infiltrated your message. This is ironic, as I'm thinking of signing myself as "The Major" from now on. The Major The Major is a twenty-nine year old layabout, except when he has some work to do, which is translating things, yesterday a brush catalogue. I still haven't recovered. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 09:31:44 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 09:31:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sarapalooza Message-ID: <01BCE9CD.A21A95B0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> So for all those people bemused by the mentions of Sarah records, don't think you're missing out too much. Belle and Sebastian aren't the logical progression of Sarah. I don't even see them as an indie band, indie is a lonely place where the catalogue number is mightier than the melody. Ultimately these songs make me catch my breath and give me the same rush as 'Disney Girls', a girl group weepie, a Northern Soul stomper, or anything written by Serge Gainsbourg or Robert Forster, something that a million Gentle Despites with a million typewriters could never do in a million years. Just my opinion... [Keith Watson] I'd be highly inclined to agree with you, I really don't see Belle and Sebastian as anything to do with that sort of stuff, which in my opinion seems to value status rather than substance, although I suspect some members of the band do see it that way, whereas I know others don't (Chris in particular). Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 10:03:03 1997 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:03:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER - John Peel's copy Message-ID: Magnificent munificent magister of modern music JOHN PEEL, was, in his twentyninth year of sterling service at BBC Radio 1, a recipient of an original Tigermilk plate. Presumably the band mailed it to him (Katrina will know). And then fellow Radio1 DJ Mark Radcliffe charmed the LP away from him, and carried it off to Manchester. When Peel compiled the annual Festive Fifty (a compilation of the fifty most popular tracks of the year in the opinion of 'Peel Show' listeners) in December 1996, the Tigermilk track 'The State I am In' was good for number 28. In order to play the track for the benefit of inveterate Festive Fifty tapers like me, he had to have Radcliffe's people supply a DAT of the song. And he stomped all over its gentle intro with an horrendous jingle. Manual mishaps are a mark of the man. God bless -Rod, 'older than he looks, alright' reads Beckett, S.: 'Mercier et Camier' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Nov 5 10:04:54 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:04:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: so, er, what's up with the archive? Message-ID: <80256546.00375B11.00@bull.co.uk> nothing's been added since 4 o'clock yesterday morning (4th nov). i blame laura hamilton. 8) andy and what do i do with the other 49 stickers with today's melody maker? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 10:10:25 1997 From: WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk (Rhys Williams) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:10:25 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: famous stuff! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <309E765742@NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK> > Famous stuff? > I met Gruff Rhys SFA and he has some ofthe LOVLIEST brown eyes EVER! Ha! I can beat that - I played in a band with him, albeit for one afternoon, and he was only 12 at the time! My only B&S related claim to fame is that I share a birthday with Stuart M... Rhys ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 10:41:28 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:41:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Younger people on the list Message-ID: <01BCE9D7.5FC4E170@rainbow.qss.co.uk> It appears that everyone on the list aged around 16-18 is apologizing for being young! Why? I shouldn't worry about it, I liked it when I was younger. I still like it now, I wouldn't worry about being young, anyone giving you a slagging for not being "knowledgable" enough about topics discussed has their own problems. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 11:09:46 1997 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (Simon Tyers) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:09:46 GMT Subject: Sinister: Copy of Tigermilk In-Reply-To: <878655807.2023395.0@totv.demon.co.uk>; from "totv" at Nov 4, 97 3:10 pm Message-ID: <199711051109.LAA02486@fermat.cms.dmu.ac.uk> > By the way, and I hope nobody minds me mentioning this, but the programme > I was working on was called The Adam and Joe Show and the second series > returns on November 22nd 11.00pm on Channel 4. Its really funny and Adam > likes Belle and Sebastian, especially 'Expectations' and puts it on all > his compilation tapes. There was a feature on them in the last Sunday Times which featured a picture of them on the set : and guess which band's name was on a poster obscured by a cut-out of Beck's head? Simon Tyers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 11:14:26 1997 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (Simon Tyers) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:14:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: birthdays Message-ID: <199711051114.LAA02518@fermat.cms.dmu.ac.uk> > >the internet movie database will let you search for > >birthdates. 16th january is given by: > > > >http://us.imdb.com/M/on-this-day?day=16&month=January > > > >and turns up kate moss, john carpenter (and about 50 or so > >others). it'll also show you deaths and marriages and films > >that opened: the apartment (one of my favourite films) > >opened (albeit in sweden) on your birthday in 1961. > > > >andy > >sat here, bored, waiting for email... > > I've just done that for my birthday 24/ 5 / 77 and it turns up > libby kennedy from neighbours and eric cantona I've just done 3/1/79 and got nothing. Luckily,I know who I share a birthday with. Unfortunately,it's Michael Schumacher. Interestingly,though,I notice that you can see which films are going to be released in the next two years. MIB2 for 1999,anyone? Simon Tyers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Nov 5 12:01:50 1997 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:01:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER Message-ID: Last night I met a boy, Rory, who's friends with Stuart Murdoch. They went to School together, only Rory was in the year above Stuart. He has a copy of tigermilk, so that's one more in Glasgow somewhere. We talked about the value of the record now, and he was saying that at the tigermilk launch at CaVa copies were being given away, and loads of them were left lying on the floor and being trodden on, because everyone there had one. Why I oughta��. How many does that count for? Christopher Leonard (Nimmoy) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 12:07:59 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:07:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I Could be Talking Message-ID: <199711051217.MAA17085@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Not the whole story, but a couple of additions... > -----Original Message----- > From: James Ng [SMTP:eculb at xxx.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 1997 3:03 PM > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: I Could be Talking > > > Did someone ask for the talkie bits from the 'I Could be Dreaming' > version > B&S did on a Radio 1 session? > > If they did, then I ken most of it, else please ignore the rest of > this > message: > > - 'today we went to the [?] and we all stuck are hands in and i told > us > lots of things about our life and our future...' > - 'back on the B, Richard' > [Hopkins T] I always heard that as a comment like 'What future', but ''back on the B Richard' probably makes more sense if there's a b in the chord sequence. > - 'What did you say? What are you saying to me?!? I'm talking what we > did > today, I'm telling them- I'n telling them how it is. > We drove about in our big red AMK van. > > - 'They called us winsome- but we're just hopeless. > [Hopkins T] (?) It's true man (this may be nonsense) We should never have signed a record deal > We could've done it ourselves > We should give up' > - 'Hi Vanessa!' > - We should give up...we should stop... just...round about.. now!' > > Anyone know what the missing bits [??] are???? [Hopkins T] Not much, I know, but it's something. That 'we should never have signed a record deal' was what first thing to get me thinking about the possibility that they really could have done it themselves... but those are old coals now. 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This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 12:13:35 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:13:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: exeter fc Message-ID: <199711051217.MAA17087@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > TimH: > I know someone who's on the Exeter F.C. mailing list, but > unfortunately I'm not on it myself as I don't like Football. > It's to do with the exercise involved; I'd much rather go to sleep. > Chris. > [Hopkins T] Chris, Being an Exeter fan is a lot like being asleep, but a bit more upsetting most of the time. but I love them. I'm just about to write myself a stiff nto telling myself off for drifting off topic. Bad boy. Won't do it again (snurgle). 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M3U=33TU%3TY%5TA/4T].5$A%15A%5$521D--04E,24Y'3$E35"Q"55153D9/ M4E153D%414Q924U.3U1/3DE435E314Q&05-)1$].5$Q)2T5&3T]40D%,3$E4 (4U0`````SG0= ` end ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Wed Nov 5 12:36:16 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:36:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mozza.... Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971105123616.0066fb04@student.let.uva.nl> Butler wrote: >P.S. Have to agree with Paul Dean with the bit at the end of the 'I could >be dreaming' session. "They call us winsome, but we're just hopeless..." >One of my favourite B&S phrases, and one which I've written all over my >files, books, and general possessions... Funny, when I read this phrase before you commented on it here, I thought it was a Morrissey one. Great minds think alike, I guess...... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Wed Nov 5 13:22:20 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:22:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: loneliness in the lowlands..... Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971105132220.00690e2c@student.let.uva.nl> Hey Paul, any (new) listees from The Netherlands? I'm getting kind of lonely down here.... "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From scc644 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 13:21:43 1997 From: scc644 at xxx.uk (Soozy) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:21:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hello? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <13A7B867750@novell4.bham.ac.uk> > > hey! how many peopl on the list are from London, or near London? near > > being an alternative to about half an hour/hour by train? > > Me! I'm near London most of the time. Is anyone from London/near London > going up to Manchester for the gigs, or at least thinking about doing so, > 'cos I'm sorely tempted but have no idea how I'll get there or where I'll > stay. Anyone else in the same situation? > I'll be going up to Manc from London (well St Albans but thats near enough) Probably getting the train from Euston - you can get a "Shuttle Advance" return for £18.50 I think. This involves booking the ticket a couple of days in advance, specifying your return date and having restricted times of travelling. Can't help you with the accomdation thoguh I'm afraid - I've already booked my spcae on a friend's floor. Soozy xox ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 13:27:52 1997 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:27:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Born old, sadly wise Message-ID: <28600457D4@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Hey, Someone asked why the young people on this site keep apologising.... Weeeel, heres a theory with a Belle and Sebastian link.... I think my whole generation (i'm nineteen) has grown up prematurely aged. We've been borne into a world where everyone tell us that all the really great noble ideas have already gone and art/literature/music whatever can onlymix and match different bits of previous ides. As a consequence of this we've grown up listening to very few bands who faith could be put into. I dont mean they were bad, just that they didn't encourage taking a risk for, by really liking them and really wanting them to succeed. You didn't invest much of yourself into the music... If anyones still here theres more... Bands like Suedue and the Manic Street Preachers having somethinbg of this quality, but (i'm being caregul here) there has always seemed a suggestion of pretence about both of them. Whether this is true or just a consequce of an overly cynical music press (who are too scared to say look this band really are fanatastic and should be loved unconditionally) I can tell. But it effects you anyway, even if you dont fully acknowledge it.... then along come belle and sebastian and there just perfect. I think I used to have this subconcious idea before how my favourite band would sound and they just fitted the mould. like going home, when you didn't even know you were homesick. And there completly inclusive, welcoming and intimate in the songas and in themselves, and we can see them growing up right in front of us (the Manics and Suede were both fully formed when I first encountered them) and they attract all the peope who have grown up with these bands who were never quite good enough. and they come to this list and were so young, but so sorry phew, er kind of went of on one there... sorry love, neil H PS getting old scares us more, a carrer as a teacher awaits no doubt -------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 13:29:59 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:29:59 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: loneliness in the lowlands..... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971105132220.00690e2c@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Eeyore wrote: > Hey Paul, any (new) listees from The Netherlands? I'm getting kind of lonely > down here.... > "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." Check out the individual listings for email addresses on the WWW page under "Joining The List": you can see all the email addresses in the order in which people join (after the initial conversion in alphabetical order from the old list way back). So look for ".nl" up from the bottom of the list. Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 11:32:10 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 12:32:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Cock: Easterhoose References: <01BCE904.9BB8C5D0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <3460593A.E77E87DD@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Dean [SMTP:Paul.Dean at xxx.uk] > Sent: Monday, November 03, 1997 10:45 PM > To: 'B&S' > Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song missing bits > > Oh my God! this is my 3rd post today, they must not be > working me hard > enough. Don't worry this will be my quota for the year > > These are the bits as i hear them > > >She went out to the easter house [?] > > > I think this is true - it's a housing estate in Glasgow. > I'll not make a > fool of myself by saying any more. Hope someone is Glasgow > can expand. > > [Keith Watson] > It's the largest of Clement Atlee's post war housing > estates that were built in Glasgow, others being > Drumchapel, Castlemilk, and I've forgotten the other > one... oops. > > It was also the name of Morrissey's pick of 86(?) who as > usual thanks to > > [Keith Watson] > Who also did name themselves after the housing estate in > Glasgow - which was slightly confusing given that they > were from Manchester (at least as far as my memory serves > me). > Yes, I think that's where they were from. They had a song called Whistling in the Dark, about the miners' strike, so they might have been loony lefties like The Style Council and The Redskins, who also had cracking songs about or inspired by the miners' strike. I'm not sure, but I think Easterhouse estate is famous for having no pubs or shops. Legend has it that you're unlikely to get out alive if you go for a visit. I suppose that's just idle stereotyping, but I'm not going to find out for myself, because I'm a chicken. Kelvingrove scares me. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 13:42:57 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:42:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sumpin' new References: Message-ID: <346077E1.DC9EF26@colon.net.> superbob wrote: > i know something we can do that will get on some people's > nerves and take up a lot of mail space. it's kinda > similiar to the stats thing. > what's everyone's claim to fame? > > i'll start. > 1.) in 1992 i had dinner in burger king with martin and > rob and sice from boo radleys. i ended up hanging out with > them all night and woke up in a stupor on the tour bus at > five in the morning not quite remembering how i got there. My wife's boss is mates with the other one out of the Boo Radleys, Tim, the one who looks like Lurch (I think). I only found this out last night, prompting me to dust off my Giant Steps tape. It's better than I remembered it, especially Leaves and Sand. > > > 2.) i snuck onto the band GENE's tour bus a couple years > back (again, in a drunken stupor) and began telling them > they'll never be as good as the smiths. the singer was > rolling a big fat doobie and the guitar player was giving > an interview to one of my friends from a rival radio > station. needless to say i was kicked off the bus. > My mate shook hands with Lou Barlow through the van window. When he was a Dinosaur. I once saw Terry Scott (of Curlywurlyfame) eating an ice cream in Bournemouth. I think he was pissed. I once saw Rodney Bewes (of Whtever Happened to the Likely Lads? fame) in the pub. I was quite embarrassingly excited, because I love him dearly. It was the day of the big Mandela concert. I followed the fat one out of REM around San Sebastian. He stopped in all the cake shop windows (honest). Rock'n'roll. I once nearly ran over Valeri Karpin, a very good footballer. It would have put paid to his multi-million peseta move to Valencia. I have seen Worzel Gummidge in real life. The song "Cookie Jar" by Fuzzy Haskins was written for me. > 3.) i got a picture of me shaking hands with david j (he > of bauhaus and love and rockets). > I've had my picture taken with Barry Sheene, former world motor-cycling champion. Around about the same time as Showaddywaddy were hot news. > 4.)and, pertaining to belle and sebastian > in high school, in french class, the teacher > re-named me sebastian, and thus i was called sebastian for > two years by everyone in the school. > There's no answer to that one. > i was born on elvis' birthday (jan. 8) > Kylie's. Or the day before. Same year and everything. She's got more money than me though. Shocking, isn't it? > that's it for me. > -brad > And me. But I'll be back when I can think of some more. Unless this thread is banned for its complete lack of relevance. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 13:37:33 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 14:37:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fussing and fighting Message-ID: <3460769C.4B63FB10@colon.net.> I think everyone's got a point. I'm sure Tag's intentions were honourable and it's been nice to read peoples' opinions on a slice of pop history I missed. I like Disney Girls too. To be honest, I don't think B&S come close (yet), but in an attempt to calm everyone down, here's a bit of what Rock De Lux, Spanish pop mag, have to say about the Cock Fun Mob's concert in Barcelona: "A lot was expected of BELLE AND SEBASTIAN, partly because IYFS has just turned itself into an unexpected and spontaneous classic, because in Great Britain the "sold out" sign is hung outside the door only hours after tickets go on sale, because they don't make many trips abroad, and because they're big and small at the same time. Big because of songs such as "Like Dylan in the Movies" and "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying" (I coud say any of the songs from the album, but these are the only ones they played from it) and because more than a group, they are a pop orchestra. Small because of the reigning lack of connection on stage, for the amateurish air they wrap everything in....because if they weren't still small, they would be the best pop group of this decade." There, that's all for now. I think it's one of the nicest reviews I've seen. I particularly like "pop orchestra". There's also a very nice photo, in which Isobel can be seen fiddling with her bow and looking at Stuart, who's playing his guitar and singing. TThe caption is "shyness in the rye". There's also a big long article (2 pages), but it's beyond me at the moment. I hope that has induced a bit of warmth in everyone's heart cockles, instaed of arguing about the merits of calling oneself Neily Weely. For the record, I think it's a good idea. Petey Weety ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 12:18:25 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:18:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: football (no B&S content - sorry!) References: <199711041447.OAA09548@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34606411.5EFF5B67@colon.net.> Hopkins T wrote: > > Just how many other members of the Leicester City > mailing list are > > there here? It seems to be overrun with them since > someone mentioned > > them recently. > > > > Simon Tyers. > > > [Hopkins T] I reckon I'm the only member of the > Exeter City > mailing list on here, if that's any help. > TimH ...and I'm willing to bet I'm the sole member of the Gresley Rovers list. I wouldn't advise anyone to join up either - it's bloody rubbish. Without wishing to be rude to the person who does it, that is. The website's good though, there's a picture of some scrubby wasteland where the new stadium's going to be. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Wed Nov 5 13:51:37 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 13:51:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mozza Message-ID: <346079E9.5F67@nmrc.ucc.ie> My claim to fame is that I was at an Echobelly gig in Coventry Uni in 1994 and apparently Morrissey was in the audience. And I failed to spot him even though it was a very small club. Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 21:54:59 1997 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:54:59 -0800 Subject: Sinister: autobiographies Message-ID: <460ECED0.1272@smlawpub.co.uk> The urge to tell everyone who I am - uuurgggh - must resist it... this soul baring thing... I have a couple of questions: 1. Why do B&S thank Alan Rankine on Tigermilk? and is Billy McKenzie's solo album any good? 2. My ex-boyfriend Fraser procured me a "Judy and the Dream of Horses" mug. Does anyone else have one? I heard there were only a few produced. I am 48 years old. I studied limb management and I used to be a ballerina but now I'm a faith healer. I spend my leisure time sketching people's necks in public parks. I married a stonemason from Cumbernauld and I have five sets of twins. I have fourteen copies of Tigermilk. I've never listened to it. Is this the Gary Glitter list? or I'm 29 (just) and I live in Finsbury Park in London and I work for a legal publishing company as an editor. I am, however, from Edinburgh and went to University in Glasgow more or less contemporaneously with Stuart Murdoch (who used to DJ at the QM Union). I also have a copy of Tigermilk which my friend Greg got for me at the launch party. Phew! However much as I'd like to tape it for all and sundry I can't at the moment because my record player is knackered. Charlotte ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Wed Nov 5 14:13:58 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 15:13:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: gender spread Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971105141358.0066bf38@student.let.uva.nl> > I'm actually much more interested in the *gender* spread of >the list, but too shy to ask. Since you have now *indirectly* posed the question everyone else was too shy to ask, I'll give you this hint: Eeyore's a girl.... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 11:57:14 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:57:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: saropoly... belleopoly etc. Message-ID: <01BCE9E1.F5A81CC0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> The Major The Major is a twenty-nine year old layabout, except when he has some work to do, which is translating things, yesterday a brush catalogue. I still haven't recovered. [Keith Watson] Papers arrived yet Fawlty? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 14:09:48 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:09:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Cock: Easterhoose Message-ID: <01BCE9F4.7AA99F40@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Yes, I think that's where they were from. They had a song called Whistling in the Dark, about the miners' strike, so they might have been loony lefties like The Style Council and The Redskins, who also had cracking songs about or inspired by the miners' strike. I'm not sure, but I think Easterhouse estate is famous for having no pubs or shops. Legend has it that you're unlikely to get out alive if you go for a visit. I suppose that's just idle stereotyping, but I'm not going to find out for myself, because I'm a chicken. Kelvingrove scares me. Peter [Keith Watson] Indeed - no amenities at all which was a mistake they recitified when they built the Newtowns about 5 years later, Cumbernauld (where I used to live as a kid) had plently of shops and amenities... just no pavements - you can view this fact in Gregory's Girl. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 14:12:26 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:12:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sumpin' new Message-ID: <01BCE9F4.D8D2FFD0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> > i was born on elvis' birthday (jan. 8) > [Keith Watson] This puzzles me - when I was young, I met an old bloke who was born on the same day as me, and who claimed that that was Elvis's birthday, mine's the seventh, although I'm no authority really, I think Elvis is a cheeseburger-filled twat. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 14:45:48 1997 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 14:45:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: Some Canadian stuff (I think). Message-ID: <199711051445.OAA18578@brookes.ac.uk> A Friend in Canada just sent me this, thought it might be of (some) interest... >From Alternative Press: When Scottish folk-pop sensation Belle And Sebastian made its maiden voyage to our shores last month for CMJ in New York, the group requested that its performance take place in a 150-year-old cathedral. Church services at the cathedral are still presumably free, but rumor has it that use of God's quarters for that September evening of mellow melodies enhanced by fellow Scots the Pastels cost the band $10,000. Though the band no longer has a record label (since the decline of The Enclave), sources say Belle And Sebastian are hoping to line up cathedrals for a tour of the U.S., when and if that ever happens. It seems likely that Matador is going to pick them up, but whether or not the New York-based label helps put the band up in cathedrals remains to be seen. =========================================================== Seems like they must be making quite a bit if they can really afford $10,000 for a concert !! How many poeple claim to have Tigermilk so far then ? It seems it's beyond 1000 by now. Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Wed Nov 5 15:08:23 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 16:08:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Felt... Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971105150823.00667ebc@student.let.uva.nl> Does anyone know the address for the Felt site? In Yahoo all they give me is sites for the _fabric_ felt!!!! Oh and to the guy who sent me the Felt samples (twice!): the samples you last sent me were empty! So that's why you haven't heard anything from me....... Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 15:03:33 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:03:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Cock: Easterhoose Message-ID: <199711051518.PAA19908@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta [SMTP:oc245d8aff at xxx.net] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 11:32 AM > To: B&S mailing list > Subject: Sinister: Re: Cock: Easterhoose > > > [Keith Watson] > > Who also did name themselves after the housing estate in > > Glasgow - which was slightly confusing given that they > > were from Manchester (at least as far as my memory serves > > me). > > > > Yes, I think that's where they were from. They had a song > called Whistling in the Dark, about the miners' strike, so > they might have been loony lefties like The Style Council > and The Redskins, who also had cracking songs about or > inspired by the miners' strike. > [Hopkins T] Easterhouse were, in my humble _not very good_. I seem to remember that they were supporters of the Revolutionary Communist Party, who were, indeed, revolutionary communists of a sort. The sort whose membership is primarily students and who charge very large fees for the privelige of being a mamber of their organisation. Malcolm Eden, singer in the late, lamented McCarthy was also once a member of that particular 'party', choosing to leave to pursue his pop activities because he reckoned that McCarthy would be more effective way to wreak havoc on the establishment, or somesuch. Did he make the right decision, kids? You decide. The Redskins, on the other hand, were members of the Socialist Workers Party, sworn enemies of the RCP. Does it make any difference, kids? You decide. I remember, back in the mid-eighties, Steven Wells (SWP) devoting a huge chunk of an NME singles review column to the Redskins, going on about how fantastic it was that folks were putting politics into music, then giving Easterhouse a very dismissive couple of words. Paul Weller was, by the time of the Miners' Strike, full on for the Labour Party and loved by all. Shame that that Paul died and was relaced by an evil machine bent on taking over the world by boring us all to death. 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M/4U3($U!24P at 4D5#25!)14Y44R]#3CU!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0`>`/@_`0`` M``H```!(;W!K:6YS(%0````>`#A``0````\```!!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0`` M`@'[/P$```!T`````````-RG0,C`0A`:M+D(`"LOX8(!````!@```"]//4Q! M3D-!4U1%4B!53DE615)32519+T]5/4U334%)3"]#3CU214-)4$E%3E13+T-. M/4U3($U!24P at 4D5#25!)14Y44R]#3CU!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0`>`/H_`0`` M``H```!(;W!K:6YS(%0````>`#E``0````\```!!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0`` M0``',+`)/@'ZZ;P!0``(,+!YU/K[Z;P!'@`]``$````%````4D4Z(``````> M`!T.`0```"````!3:6YI <3460593A.E77E87DD@colon.net.> Message-ID: <34608D79.F0E09104@easynet.co.uk> For the registries sake, my name is Ian 'buffalo' Turton, I'm 31 but *everyone* guesses 26 when the look at me, then, oooh, 13 when they speak to me. Live in Shepherds Bush. Freelance computer consultant currently working from home (i.e. s'posed to be working now). Top ten records of all time, without thinking about it for too long; 1. Galaxie 500 - Tell Me 2. Tom Waits - Ruby's Arms 3. Foul Play - Open Your Mind 4. Frank Sinatra - I'm A Fool To Want You 5. Razorcuts - Snowbound 6. Eastern Dark - Johnny and DeeDee 7. George Strait - Nobody In His Right Mind Would Have Left Her 8. The Lefte Bank - Walk Away Renee 9. The Drifters - The Cut is Deep 10. Transformer 2 - Fruit of Love Actually, given a rainy Tuesday night and a six-pack all ten of the above could have been country songs. Anyone else keen on the Razorcuts ? Never hear a word about 'em anymore, periodically wonder what Greg, Tim, Angus and David are getting up to now. And re. a recent thread ... I have Easterhouse's only (I believe) album 'Contenders' in front of me. All glossy black moodiness and angular guitars. Think they split up cos the Perry brothers had a falling out I believe. Sample lyrics to 'Get Back To Russia' go ... Get back to Russia I hear you say Get back to Russia but there ain't no way England made me and here I'll say England made me let England deal with me And it would be nice Leningrad in spring must be a pretty sight And to sit down by the Volga, all that cool blue water You can't get Levis jeans or pictures of James Dean But these things I have seen And they don't mean that much to me Hmmmm. 1986 seems like quite a while ago faced with this. Actually, the toons not half bad. Enough. To the kettle. Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta wrote: > Yes, I think that's where they were from. They had a song > called Whistling in the Dark, about the miners' strike, so > they might have been loony lefties like The Style Council > and The Redskins, who also had cracking songs about or > inspired by the miners' strike. > > I'm not sure, but I think Easterhouse estate is famous for > having no pubs or shops. Legend has it that you're unlikely > to get out alive if you go for a visit. I suppose that's > just idle stereotyping, but I'm not going to find out for > myself, because I'm a chicken. Kelvingrove scares me. > > Peter > > ----- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please > see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail > owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 15:28:07 1997 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:28:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Listee Register Message-ID: <01BCE9D5.82C844C0@n150.natureny.com> My name's Paige, I'm 24, and I am a newly annointed resident of New York City. I work in publishing doing Sales & Marketing stuff and my favorite Belle & Sebastian is easily "You're Just A Baby, " followed closely by "Judy." When I'm not working or listening to B&S, I'm watching South Park in an effort to perfect my Cartman immitation. Kick Ass, paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 15:28:12 1997 From: WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk (Rhys Williams) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:28:12 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Re: Cock: Easterhoose In-Reply-To: <01BCE9F4.7AA99F40@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <35EA52698F@NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK> > Yes, I think that's where they were from. They had a song > called Whistling in the Dark, about the miners' strike, so > they might have been loony lefties like The Style Council > and The Redskins, who also had cracking songs about or > inspired by the miners' strike. > Easterhouse weren't from Scotland at all, they were from Manchester IIRC. They certainly were loony lefties and did have some cracking songs ("Get Back To Russia"). They were led by two constantly fighting brothers and the guitar-wielding one was hailed as the next Johnny Marr. Which he was not. Rhys ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 15:34:29 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:34:29 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Stuart The Astronomer and Tigermilks In-Reply-To: <199711051445.OAA18578@brookes.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, ben ferneyhough wrote: > How many poeple claim to have Tigermilk so far then ? It seems it's beyond > 1000 by now. OK - for anyone interested we have now accounted for 9% of all copies of Tigermilk... I have a list of 43 "definites" and 48 "probables" (i.e. the 45 that went to journos and radio stations, some individually confirmed, plus and handful of others - ones that we don't know for sure haven't been passed on). I'll put the list on the WWW pages later today or tomorrow, but if you know more tell me - I'm dying to break the 10% barrier. There will also be a crack team of burglars coming round to all your houses tonight to ensure I get a copy from somewhere. I was very pleased to read in Ink Movies today that Stuart M is thinking of giving it all up, moving to New York and studying astronomy at a University. Stuart - if you're listening - I did all that at the Royal Observatory in Edinburgh: it was fun, but I'd still rather write songs for a living. Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 15:39:30 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:39:30 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: loneliness in the lowlands..... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971105150338.006a6408@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Eeyore wrote: > Well, so much for that; the domain list said there were 2 listees from > Holland, but my boyfriend signed off a few weeks ago, so I'm still the only > one. Unless some Dutch kid is disguised with a ".com" name...... No, hang on - the domain list is for both sinister AND sinister-digest - there's another ".nl" on the digest list (hi Pierre!). I probably didn't explain it very well on the page - sorry. I can't tell where you ".com" and ".net" people are from any more than anyone. Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leh at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 15:40:19 1997 From: leh at xxx.uk (Laura Hamilton:)) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:40:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: so, er, what's up with the archive? In-Reply-To: <80256546.00375B11.00@bull.co.uk> Message-ID: what did I do -sniff :( love and hugs, Laura :) xxx On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 Andrew.Dean at BULL.NET wrote: > > > nothing's been added since 4 o'clock yesterday morning (4th > nov). i blame laura hamilton. 8) > > andy > and what do i do with the other 49 stickers with today's > melody maker? > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 15:43:13 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:43:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: sumpin' new Message-ID: <199711051548.PAA20398@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Watson [SMTP:keith at xxx.uk] > Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 1997 2:12 PM > To: B&S mailing list > Subject: RE: Sinister: sumpin' new > > > Keith said: This puzzles me - when I was young, I met an old bloke who > was born on the same day as me, and who claimed that that was Elvis's > birthday, mine's the seventh, although I'm no authority really, I > think Elvis is a cheeseburger-filled twat. [Hopkins T] Well, at least he's cooler than either of my birthday mates: the loathsome Johns: Lennon ('stay in bed for peace'-cheers John) and Entwistle (the Ox-need I say more?) TimH begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(@H/`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0 at 36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02``0`:````4D4Z(%-I M;FES=&5R.B!S=6UP:6XG(&YE=P#)"`$)@`$`(0```$1$-S,P,30S1C0U-40Q M,3%"-$(X,#!!,$,Y-$)&-S%"`!@'`2"``P`.````S0<+``4`#P`K``@``P`I M`0$%@`,`#@```,T'"P`%``\`*P`-``,`+@$!#8`$``(````"``(``0.0!@#0 M!P``*0````L``@`!`````P`N``````!``#D`@,I_A@'JO`$>`'```0```!8` M``!3:6YI M@@`J0#XPD"`&-H"L!S970P'B`'$P*# M`%`05G!R<=XR$5D.4`/5$65]"H`(R.P at .PEO#C`U%7\*8`*`V0J!=6,`4`L# M8P!!"V#B;@X0,#,S"Z<*L0J$\PJ$"S!L:0\Q&,$:`0-@"G0%D'01Y#$V("WU M'-)/!1!G"X`'0`70!Y#P09&%Y8BP'L&]V90;0!)`@!#`U M)K`Q.3DW($0R. at X@(%!-),=4\F\B!T(F!?``P`,0"X`T9R`;,',<,"37=6+& M:AP1(@=213H&``N`ARIQ!)`L4'-U;7`+@/0G("90=QY_'XH;-A.13Q.2&?PB ME!W@:60L4%0":`0`('!U>GIL1P>1!X`Q;(LBP`A at 9R+022=M+8#9-;!A=3PQ!1!T-T`6X+T'0&PF MH3.0(L`+@&LYI#H@,D%A.$`S4`>096+S"'`>`'(M($`]X#BB,[#\="X:%1C2 M##(N-P$P(U`P2&]P:PN`!"!47?\#,")@#$`10`KC"H`F(#W at _S>Q!4`RL#/` M!4`S4#H!!:`_!O`G,3C1`Z`BHBTWPT4",`/Q=#*P2<`VDOA/>"TF4#BA,Y`=X$>!L06P93\I&A0' M84 at OXU\;UT]Q&CP*@!21`%&0`!X`,4`!````#P```$%$051'2$0P-CDS-$8U M```#`!I``````!X`,$`!````#P```$%$051'2$0P-CDS-$8U```#`!E````` M``,`-@``````"P`&@`@@!@``````P````````$8``````X4````````#``B` M""`&``````#`````````1@````!2A0``MPT``!X`"8`((`8``````,`````` M``!&`````%2%```!````!````#@N,``#``J`""`&``````#`````````1@`` M```!A0````````L`"X`((`8``````,````````!&``````Z%`````````P`' M@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````$(4````````#``R`""`&``````#````` M````1@`````1A0````````,`#8`((`8``````,````````!&`````!B%```` M````'@`.@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````-H4```$````!`````````!X` M#X`((`8``````,````````!&`````#>%```!`````0`````````>`!"`""`& M``````#`````````1@`````XA0```0````$``````````P`F```````#`(`0 M_____P(!^3\!````=`````````#J\`4``"#"`J(J#`>J\`1X`/0`!````!0```%)%.B`` M````'@`=#@$````6````4VEN:7-T97(Z('-U;7!I;B<@;F5W````"P`I```` M```+`",```````,`!A#EIDCQ`P`'$.@!```#`!`0`0````,`$1``````'@`( M$`$```!E````+2TM+2U/4DE'24Y!3$U%4U-!1T4M+2TM+4923TTZ2T5)5$A7 M05133TY33510.DM%251(0%%34T-/54M314Y4.E=%1$Y%4T1!62Q.3U9%34)% 94C`U+#$Y.3 Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta wrote: > superbob wrote: > > > what's everyone's claim to fame? > > > > i'll start. > > I once saw Terry Scott (of Curlywurlyfame) eating an ice cream in > Bournemouth. I think he was pissed. OK. 1. I once had a video camera pointed at me in some football stadium in Spain next to Johan Cruyff - I felt such an arse as I was dressed in an identical striped shirt to my two brothers (younger and older, now leading executives in Ford and Mitsubishi respectively). I think we were supposed to look "cute" and were told we were going on Dutch television. I didn't know and don't know anything about football so I probably even spelled his name wrong. 2. I got Tom O'Connor's autograph in Upton Village on the Wirral when I was 8. He was opening a record shop. 3. My gay buddhist friend in Newcastle lives next door to someone from The Bill. We nicked a twig from her garden. 4. My girlfriend Linda saw Robin Cook with his wife in the Loon Fung restaurant in Edinburgh. He didn't look very happy apparently. 5. I know Peter Miller. 6. I had a chat with Patrick Moore in an observatory in La Palma, in the Canaries. He called me "young chap" and "my boy" a lot. I was about 24. 7. In a pub in Dublin last year Linda and I saw Father Ted run in, clutching a mobile phone, look round in a panic and run out. This 30 minutes after Lucian from The Liver Birds had sat drinking at the bar. Now for goodness sake let's dispense with these irrelevancies and get on with the list. Sniff. Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 15:58:12 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 15:58:12 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199711051557.PAA20048@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> > what's everyone's claim to fame? 1.) I think I've boasted about this on the maillist before. My girlfriend's dad and uncle are best mates with Irvine Welsh. So, I get invited to any parties he has when he is in Edinburgh. He's signed all my books, and he introduced me to Ewan McGregor at the Trainspotting film premiere. 2.) Unfortunately, I met the entire Glasgow Rangers squad a couple of weeks ago in the Caledonian Hotel, Edinburgh. My drunken girlfriend insisted on slaging them all off. Except for Negri, who chatted her up. 3.) I saw that singer bloke 'Fish' in Victoria Street years ago. A mate I was with shouted "Oy, Fishy... your shite!". Unsurprisingly, he wasn't very pleased. All for now.... John. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From d91-cni at xxx.se Wed Nov 5 16:01:18 1997 From: d91-cni at xxx.se (Christer Nilsson) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 17:01:18 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Easterhoose and me References: <01BCE904.9BB8C5D0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> <3460593A.E77E87DD@colon.net.> <34608D79.F0E09104@easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <3460984E.772C132E@nada.kth.se> > Anyone else keen on the Razorcuts ? Never hear a word about 'em anymore, > periodically wonder what Greg, Tim, Angus and David are getting up to > now. greg webster is in a new band called sportique together with rob pursey (from heavenly) and mark flunder (from ceebee beaumont, previously in tv personalities, the mctells). they don't have anything released yet, but two singles are on the way. and they will come over to stockholm to play on the 29th of november!!! don't know what the others are up to. -christer (who is 25 and works with geographic information systems and only has tigermilk on tape) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faw1 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 5 16:08:01 1997 From: faw1 at xxx.edu (Francisco Alberto Wong) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:08:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: registers... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hallo It's francisco 23 and loving it (barely) library worker ;) or rather, Bibliographic Assistant Class Five! ta for now. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Wed Nov 5 16:17:03 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 10:17:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: comment and a query Message-ID: "We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we?" I don't know about the happy tunes part...but we're certainly as prolific as bunnies when it comes to posting. Over 40 posts were in my e-maibox this morning when I woke up. and they wonder why I never get any work done... here's another B&S query for ya: was anyone else on this list at their NYC gig on Sunday Sep. 7? (not the CMJ show on the 6th) I was there...just wondering what other people's experiences with it were...and did anyone make note of the setlist? ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "I don't love anyone." --Belle and Sebastian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Nov 5 15:24:42 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:24:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Libra; and my name's Andy... Message-ID: <80256546.005A7DFD.00@bull.co.uk> and i like a girl who...* and, of course, the moment i complain about the archives they start working again. sorry paul for casting aspersions. two brief mentions of b&s in today's music papers, both in the letters pages. someone asks which one's belle and which one's sebastian and someone else has them down as band of the year. Easterhouse: always reminds me of the fatima mansions - both were named after housing estates. alan rankine: ran the aforementioned music course at stow college. there's an ink polaroid that covers this with b&s playing a slow piano version of party fears two (or was it the other one?) at a gig in france. andy *the floaters, 'float on'. god, you people are so young. but i've noticed that it's the older ones amongst us who have the more outlandish musical tastes (outside of b&s). odd that. oh, i share a birthday with bruce grobelar(sp?), gerry addams and melvyn bragg. (everything below here is way off topic, read at your own risk) mr taggart: >Sarah started off with admirable intentions: passion, >idealism and love. But it was soon hijacked by people with >no imagination, playing at ickle 4 year olds (people who >called themselves 'Neily Weely' for fuck's sake) i doubt mr shumsky had very little to do with what was and wasn't released on sarah (else bouquet would be on there, surely). sarah, in my eyes, was good to the last drop and those people who gave up at 40 or 50 or whatever missed out on some great tunes. and, from an earlier post: >...while fellow fanzinists and >guitar pop stalwarts of the late 80s (the likes of >Stereolab and Saint Etienne) were trying new and exciting >things which i find an odd thing to say given that the second(?) st. etienne single was a rather straight cover of a field mice tune... someone then went on to slag them for releasing stuff on cd. so they're meant to try new and exciting things but not embrace new technology (especially when the choice was issue things on cd and vinyl or not sell enough to re-coup your costs, adapt or die). curious. sorry paul, i know you wanted an end to this but there were things i couldn't let go. still, more relevant than talking about football, eh? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PMA97CW at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 16:36:30 1997 From: PMA97CW at xxx.uk (Chris Worth) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:36:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: being young Message-ID: <91CD7B6C57@derwent.shef.ac.uk> In response to the person who asked why all the spring chickens were apologising for being young, well, I can't really answer that, except to say that I am definitely not sorry for being 19!! Katrina! I'm sure you said sometime last week that the details of the Manchester gig(s) were going to be released the next day, and that you'd let us all know that day. Maybe I've missed the message and the dates are all sold out by now, at which point I would seriously have to contemplate becoming a monk, devoting myself to a contemplative life... This Sarah records thing is, I'm afraid to say, going straight over my head. Zooom! Oh yeah, I'm a production on our student radio station and today I got the presenters to play 'Le Pastie...'; woah, cool!! I nearly keeled over when I saw 'Dog on Wheels' and '3.. 6.. 9..' in the (not very extensively stocked) CD library in the studio. To whoever was going on about Suede and the Manics: the thing with the Manics, and maybe to a much lesser extent Suede, was that they new and even advertised the fact that there was so much pretense to them. The Manics gave the music scene a much-needed kick up the arse when they exploded onto it, and while B&S haven't exactly exploded onto the scene, they look like giving it a good punch in the face (ie. NME and all that). That's it for now, Later, Chris. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AFox at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 16:44:36 1997 From: AFox at xxx.com (Andy Fox) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 11:44:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: register Message-ID: For those who are interested in documenting this kind of information, I am 28, and my .com address comes to you all from Washington, DC, USA. Oh yeah, would someone from England want to send over some Toffee Crisp bars, they are the best..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 15:52:20 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:52:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Easterhoose and me Message-ID: <01BCEA02.CD9EC5A0@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> >Anyone else keen on the Razorcuts ? Yes. Well, I used to be a big fan. If you're interested, I have a video of them playing live at The George and Dragon pub, Bedford, in 1986. It's worth watching also for the moment when you can see The Legend! (older subscribers may remember him) "dancing" in the audience. You also get a glimpse a youthful me (yes, I was there too - I was the promoter, in fact!), so I guess that makes me another of the lists elder statesmen (but I'm younger than that now). Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leh at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 16:53:38 1997 From: leh at xxx.uk (Laura Hamilton:)) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:53:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Stuart The Astronomer and Tigermilks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: can account for astronomy being fun, I'm a second year astrophysicist and have decided, after a minor internal conflict, that it was the best thing I did, rather than do maths like my parents tried to force me. As long as you can put up with idiotic people calling you nerd or space cadet, they always eat their words in the end anyway. love and hugs, Laura :) xxx On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Honey wrote: > > > I was very pleased to read in Ink Movies today that Stuart M is thinking > of giving it all up, moving to New York and studying astronomy at a > University. Stuart - if you're listening - I did all that at the Royal > Observatory in Edinburgh: it was fun, but I'd still rather write songs for > a living. > > Paul > mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leh at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 16:56:22 1997 From: leh at xxx.uk (Laura Hamilton:)) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:56:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Stuart The Astronomer and Tigermilks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would like to say too though, if I was any good at writing music, etc. I wouldn't be sitting here trying to figure out my physics assignment love and hugs, Laura :) xxx On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Honey wrote: > > I was very pleased to read in Ink Movies today that Stuart M is thinking > of giving it all up, moving to New York and studying astronomy at a > University. Stuart - if you're listening - I did all that at the Royal > Observatory in Edinburgh: it was fun, but I'd still rather write songs for > a living. > > Paul > mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 16:01:32 1997 From: Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com (Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:01:32 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Re: Easterhoose and me Message-ID: <85256546.005D28B4.00@v2music.com> tim plays in red chair fadeaway, works for a record label, and last year sent out a 7" of Christmas tune he wrote (with pop celebrity guests) for his Christmas cards. (Embedded image moved d91-cni @ nada.kth.se to file: 11/05/97 11:01 AM PIC08826.PCX) Please respond to d91-cni at nada.kth.se To: sinister at majordomo.net cc: buffalo @ easynet.co.uk (bcc: Angelina DeGiovanni/New_York/V2 Music) Subject: Sinister: Re: Easterhoose and me > Anyone else keen on the Razorcuts ? Never hear a word about 'em anymore, > periodically wonder what Greg, Tim, Angus and David are getting up to > now. greg webster is in a new band called sportique together with rob pursey (from heavenly) and mark flunder (from ceebee beaumont, previously in tv personalities, the mctells). they don't have anything released yet, but two singles are on the way. and they will come over to stockholm to play on the 29th of november!!! don't know what the others are up to. -christer (who is 25 and works with geographic information systems and only has tigermilk on tape) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 16:14:24 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:14:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Neily Weely Message-ID: <01BCEA05.E2DE8060@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> I'm sure you're all up for a bit of gossip? Well, a friend of mine (I'm not saying who) told me that said Mr Neily Weely got punched in the face and had his glasses broken at the Sarah Records farewell bash by a member of Orlando (I wonder if Dickon has anything to add, or is this not worthy of comment?). It's not all butterflies and fluffy bunnies out there in the Land of Twee, you know... Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 17:14:15 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 17:14:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: Message-ID: <01BCEA0E.3EC85790@rainbow.qss.co.uk> 3.) I saw that singer bloke 'Fish' in Victoria Street years ago. A mate I was with shouted "Oy, Fishy... your shite!". Unsurprisingly, he wasn't very pleased. [Keith Watson] Oddly enough, my ex-flatmate met Fish on Victoria Street a few years ago too, he said "Oh... it's Fish, Hello" and Fish said "Fuck off". Fish - oh well... more cock fun again! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 16:59:13 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:59:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: autobiographies Message-ID: <01BCEA0C.25930330@rainbow.qss.co.uk> 1. Why do B&S thank Alan Rankine on Tigermilk? and is Billy McKenzie's solo album any good? [Keith Watson] Alan Rankine financed the release of Tigermilk or so I believe, Electric Honey is his label... Secondly, no idea, but I too would like to know - it has had good reviews, but then given the circumstances I think it'd be one of these forgone conclusion reviews. 2. My ex-boyfriend Fraser procured me a "Judy and the Dream of Horses" mug. Does anyone else have one? I heard there were only a few produced. [Keith Watson] Only a few indeed, Isobel designed them. Hope that's of help Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 18:09:20 1997 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:09:20 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: more claims In-Reply-To: <199711051557.PAA20048@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> Message-ID: > > > what's everyone's claim to fame? 1) at a fall gig in the astoria a few years ago mark lamar barged past me saying "outa my fuckin' way" or sommat like 2) (i love this one)my uncle's mates with christopher biggins and i've served him cupsof tea and had both cheeks kissed by 'im. 3) ummm... i'm sure there's more... i followed anna friel out of a paper shop and along the kings road once 4) and on the same day i saw gaby roslin in peter jones; i woz in the lift and she said " are you going up?" and i said " no, down" and shut the door. 5) and last saturday (apparently) ian kelsey came out of the theatre where he is starring in grease and laughed at me becoz i was so drunk (and maybe singing b & s at the time; i'd like to hear ANd SEE b & s cover greased lightning) that's all... t'other kate ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Wed Nov 5 18:26:44 1997 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:26:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sumpin' new Message-ID: Ross Davidson of Eastenders and now top thriller action 'High Road' and friend asked me out to Cleopatras (very tacky nightclub in Glasgow, occassionally referred to as Clatty pats). I didn't go. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 18:33:46 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:33:46 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: DIGEST LENGTHS Message-ID: Had a few people commenting that their mailboxes are being swamped by all you enthusiastic mailers this week and some are even leaving us! Shame, but just to remind people that if they can't cope they can subscribe instead to the "digest" version of the list: single mail messages with multiple postings to the list - details on the WWW page. I also asked for comments on digest length: well not many people commented and reaction was mixed, but on balance I've decided the majority want smaller, more frequent digests. I've therefore asked my list to generate digests every 1200 lines, approximately 20 messages as a balance to try. Please let me know what you think, either by mailing me direct or (preferably) using the Comments form on my WWW page. And please tell me if the digest doesn't appear to be doing what it's told as I may not notice. It's probably also worth asking people to post a little more stuff a little less frequently, but I wouldn't dare as I'm as guilty as anyone just know - posting all sorts of rubbish to keep myself amused while I get well. Sorry! I will try to lay off a bit. But I think if people want to tell us where they are and what they do - well you're welcome but tack it on the end of something B&S-ish next time you post. OK? Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Matilda.Moore at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 18:37:45 1997 From: Matilda.Moore at xxx.com (Matilda Moore) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:37:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Adam & Joe/age Message-ID: Hello everyone. Are you all well??? I'm SO happy the Adam & Joe show is coing back. I LOVE it & recorded the last series. About the age thing. I'm 15 & a student studying for my GCSE's. I live in Norwich,Norfolk, England. Are there any plans for Belle & Sebastian to come here soon??? I do hope so. Speak to you all soon {Now I've worked out how to use this thing. I've been on the list for months} Love,Hugs & Kisses Tilly xxx p.s. Are there any Fist Of Fun Or Dylan Moran fans here Or anyone from Norwich??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 18:45:35 1997 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 18:45:35 GMT Subject: Sinister: Neily Weely In-Reply-To: <01BCEA05.E2DE8060@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:14:24 -0000, Nigel Turner said: << Well, a friend of mine (I'm not saying who) told me that said Mr Neily Weely got punched in the face and had his glasses broken at the Sarah Records farewell bash by a member of Orlando (I wonder if Dickon has anything to add, or is this not worthy of comment?). It's not all butterflies and fluffy bunnies out there in the Land of Twee, you know... >> I was there, and I remember that particular ruck happening...watched by a rather amused David Gedge, who was powerless to intervene due to having the remains of his picnic lunch and loads of coats and stuff to contend with. Some party....feels like it was yesterday.... Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faeiry at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 18:11:39 1997 From: faeiry at xxx.uk (faeiry) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:11:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Younger people on the list Message-ID: >It appears that everyone on the list aged around 16-18 is apologizing for >being young! Why? I shouldn't worry about it, I liked it when I was >younger. I still like it now, I wouldn't worry about being young, anyone >giving you a slagging for not being "knowledgable" enough about topics >discussed has their own problems. > >Keith. > you are a star..... much appreciated lovely! you near london? Petra >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faeiry at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 18:15:11 1997 From: faeiry at xxx.uk (faeiry) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:15:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: hello? Message-ID: >> > hey! how many peopl on the list are from London, or near London? near >> > being an alternative to about half an hour/hour by train? >> >> Me! I'm near London most of the time. Is anyone from London/near London >> going up to Manchester for the gigs, or at least thinking about doing so, >> 'cos I'm sorely tempted but have no idea how I'll get there or where I'll >> stay. Anyone else in the same situation? >> >I'll be going up to Manc from London (well St Albans but thats near >enough) Probably getting the train from Euston - you can get a >"Shuttle Advance" return for £18.50 I think. This involves booking >the ticket a couple of days in advance, specifying your return date >and having restricted times of travelling. > >Can't help you with the accomdation thoguh I'm afraid - I've already >booked my spcae on a friend's floor. > >Soozy xox you little charmer you! *big smile* i just asked cause i want to arrange a sort of meeting in london... i think it could be fun! when you coming to st. Albans? Petra >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 19:09:32 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 19:09:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: autobiographies In-Reply-To: <460ECED0.1272@smlawpub.co.uk> References: <460ECED0.1272@smlawpub.co.uk> Message-ID: <3460c14a.2087361@email.mcmail.com> On Wed, 5 Nov 1997 13:54:59 -0800, Charlotte Hall wrote: >I have a couple of questions: >1. Why do B&S thank Alan Rankine on Tigermilk? and is Billy McKenzie's >solo album any good? Alan Rankine owns the label, doesn't he (help me out here)? Dunno about Billy's solo thing. I was so sad when he died...that reminds me, does anyone have a tape of B&S doing 'Party Fears Two'. That song...is...so...beautiful.... >2. My ex-boyfriend Fraser procured me a "Judy and the Dream of Horses" mug. >Does anyone else have one? I heard there were only a few produced. I know jealousy is a crime, but grrrrrrrr.... I've got a cat called Charlotte. She's named after Charlotte Gainsbourg. If I get another one I'll call her Mittens, in honour of Ralph Wiggum. Oh, and on the subject of Sarah, er, does anyone fancy a pint? Love and kisses Taggy-Waggy-Wiggly-Woo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faeiry at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 18:28:20 1997 From: faeiry at xxx.uk (faeiry) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:28:20 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: more claims Message-ID: >> >> > what's everyone's claim to fame? > 1) i sat on damon albarns doorstep for about half an hour and he opened the door and was lovely! 2) i snogged the lead singer of measwear (don't ask why!) and talked to ALL of them (hey how cool,,, not!) 3) i'm lovely friends with a)Chris Nettleton in the Nubiles. and b) with David Ryder Prangly from Rachel Stamp (anyone ever heard of either?) 4) i met Jarvis Cocker and asked him to dance and he said he was too drunk but later came to ask me! 5) i met Vic Reeves at a Blur gig and he stayed to chat for a while. 6) i saw justine frishmann and followed her down portobello road. 7) saw dave rowntree on a bike in camden and shouted hi, to which he waved back. 8) saw sharon stone in the groucho club (invited by my sister's boyfried, oh yes!) i think that's it... no..... there are more, but it's too boring! anyhow! Petra ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faeiry at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 18:31:39 1997 From: faeiry at xxx.uk (faeiry) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:31:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: london meet! Message-ID: NOW PLEASE WILL EVERYONE BE HELPFUL *lovely smile* I'M WANTING TO ARRANGE A BELLE AND SEBASTIAN MEET IN LONDON... ..... HOWEVER.... TO DO THIS, I'LL HAVE TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BOTHER SHOWING UP, AND FROM THERE, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ARRANGE IT ALL.... ie meeting places and the like I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH FUN IF THIS ACCTUALLY HAPPENED, SO PLEASE, IF ANYONE WOULD BE SO KIND, WRITE BACK TO ME AND TELL ME IF YOU'RE NEAR OR LIVING IN LONDON. THANKS! PETRA ALSO. I DOUBT THAT ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS LIST ARE MASS MURDERERS OF ANYTHING.... i hope! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjouan at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 19:27:54 1997 From: mjouan at xxx.com (Michelle Jouan) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 11:27:54 -0800 Subject: Sinister: missing bits Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971105192754.006b9a3c@mailbox.previewtravel.com> >- 'They called us winsome- but we're just hopeless. >[??????] >[??????] >We could've done it ourselves >We should give up' >- 'Hi Vanessa!' >- We should give up...we should stop... just...round about.. now!' i don't remember at the moment the EXACT quote, but he says something to the effect of: "they should have never given us a record deal" :) michelle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 20:00:20 1997 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:00:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sarah and Twee Message-ID: <01BCE9FB.89BA91E0@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> >I'm sure you're all up for a bit of gossip? > >Well, a friend of mine (I'm not saying who) told me that said Mr Neily = >Weely got punched in the face and had his glasses broken at the Sarah >Records farewell bash by a member of Orlando (I wonder if Dickon has >anything to add, or is this not worthy of comment?). It's not all = >butterflies and fluffy bunnies out there in the Land of Twee, you = >know... Yes I heard this story. The bash was held on a boat in the Bristol Harbour. Someone said the Shelley record sucked and didn't belong on Sarah and Tim Chipping got into a fight with him and was thrown out. Just goes to show that sometimes it's best to do your best job to keep opinions to oneself. Matt PS I had a radio show today on WMBR Cambridge, Breakfast of Champions. I wouldn't consider it appropriate to post the playlist on this mailing list. However, I do want you to know that I played Pastie. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 20:19:30 1997 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:19:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: CMJ "pick of the day" / Cuddly Stuart Murdoch Message-ID: Apologies if this has already been mentioned. (I'm on the digest version so I don't get all the posts immediately. BTW Paul, I did use your cool new archive search to look for it in recent posts.) The CMJ web site (http://www.cmjmusic.com/Newpicks/cmj.html) featured the new EP as a "Pick of the Day" on Tuesday, November 4. In a gushing review, CMJ compares the music of B&S to migrating butterflies and refers to Stuart Murdoch as CUDDLY! Ha, wonder what he'd think of that! Read the full review below. -- Nicole (whose new work computer has a great set of speakers and she'd better get over the thrill of sound samples soon or she'll be rightfully fired.) _______________________________________ BELLE AND SEBASTIAN 3 ... 6 ... 9 Seconds of Light EP Jeepster, Unit 60, Canalot Production Studios, 222 Kensal Road, London W10 5BN U.K. Sound Samples: "A Century Of Fakers" (ISDN), "Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie" (ISDN), "A Century Of Fakers" (28.8), "Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie" (28.8) The seven members of Belle and Sebastian make incomparably beautiful music. Led by the cuddly Stuart Murdoch, the band's sublime pop flits from your speakers like so many migrating butterflies. This new EP's first song "A Century of Fakers," is a play on "A Century of Elvis," from the band's last EP, Lazy Line Painter Jane. The revamped lyrics and soft, enchanting melody are framed by carnival keyboards and a slowish cello. "Le Pastie De La Bourgeoisie" begins with the ghostly guitar from spaghetti westerns, and continues with a rolling, wagon-wheel beat that would make Serge Gainsbourg proud. "Beautiful" is just that, a sad tale of blindness woven by Murdoch's lyrics while the instruments build and burst behind him. The last track is more railroad rhythm with trumpet, but listen further for the hidden acoustic track at the end, which appears like an epilogue for a dream and contains the near-perfect line "Belle and Sebastian/on the radio/and we're really sorry/for all the trouble we've caused." Apology accepted. by DAVID DAY From CMJ New Music Report Singles Section, Issue #545- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 20:05:21 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 20:05:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: meet at Manchestah! when the gigs are planned! Message-ID: People! We can meet up at the Manchester gigs!!!!! (If you Londoners can drag yourselves oop north...don't worry about being southern, we'll issue you with flat caps and knowledge about whippets.... :)...JOKE!!!!!) Coz I can't come to a London meet. Coz I am oop north. And it is 19 quid to get to London, and then money 2 spend in the (so i hear) wonders of camden market..please don't all say how good it is so i can be even more jealous! Lovehearts and stars and WHEN ARE THE GIGS, I'm pleading here, I've not been this desperate since, ooer. -- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From chambers at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 20:31:31 1997 From: chambers at xxx.com (Chambers & Chambers SF) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 12:31:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: first posting Message-ID: <199711052031.MAA21204@mail3.sirius.com> I'm a little nervous, as I've been on the list for a week and not yet figured myself witty enough to write something. (And this entry may prove it) But I'm wondering; as B&S will not be releasing anything new soon, nor will they be here in San Francisco or ANY PART of the states any time soon, my B&S "fix" is limited to IYFS. Are there any groups or artists of a similar vein who could serve as as sort of substitute? I realize there's no one like them (otherwise I wouldn't be subscribing to this list), but a little Nick Drake, a little Left Banke, even a little Love can stretch out those B&S vibes for me. Does anyone have an additional suggestions (that are available in The US)? I'd be grateful. By the way, I'm getting a big kick out of all these "claims to fame" people are making about people I've never heard of. And also BTW, I'm 27, female, do NOT own a copy of Tigermilk, and have no clue who Jarvis Cocker is. Am I missing out? MO Ld ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 19:13:11 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:13:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: gigs, famous, manics, maker, out of space! Message-ID: I got more famous stuff! My mates brother knows STUART FROM MOGWAI AND!!! When I was about eight I got to go in that car Gumdrop coz I won a competition or something...does anyone remeber Gumdrop? Coz I don't know the cartoon B&S. All news to me. My friend saw it written on a file and said 'oh, you remeber the programme too'! And I thought, eh?? Others-OK mate, I'm a Manics fan! hahahah-evil laughs. The manics are a bundle of contradictions, they're so different from B&S....don't compare them. They have the same appeal, as in people can relate to/love the lyrics, but the Manics always wanted EVERYTHING...and as for pretense...I say 4Real....the only comparisons they have are with the devotion that both bands inspire. Oh, to see B&S in tight white jeans, eyeliner and leopard print! (or maybe not eh? But admit it, its a thought!) I wonder whatever happened to Doo Wop music? Sorry. I'm just going insane coz : I NEED B&S GIGS NOW! Wheres everyone staying in Manchester? I could get a train back home, possibly but then I couldn't stay behind, which I'd want to do. I don't know anyone 2 stay with! And sleeping in the train station doesn't appeal, but I might have to...! OH, and I'm in MM letters ssction, but not mentioning B&S, even though I did dedicate a whole letter to them (and my email) which was published earlier. there's kin of a hint in this letter'c'mon! prixe of a toffeecrisp to the winner! Int MM turning into the indie smash hitz! cool. lovehearts and stars and fed up of the sqeally fireworks noises already!-- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 20:28:56 1997 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:28:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: New Creme Anglaise Issue Message-ID: <01BCE9FF.8931B600@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> "Bonjour Bonjour! We're happy to present you the new issue of our EuroPOP fanzine: CREME ANGLAISE, featuring exceptional guests BELLE & SEBASTIAN! Also in this issue, lots of other interviews: STEREOLAB, THE TINDERSTICKS, JJ JOHANSON, EELS, PLACEBO, CORNERSHOP, FUCK, THE DELGADOS, THE PASTELS, and DIE STERNE... plus more reviews, news, singles, albums, gigs: Mouse On Mars, Broadcast, OP8, St Malo festival 97, Bjork secret gig in Paris, Magoo, and all the usual stuff, ideas, fun! Elle est pas belle la vie?! Order your copy! (FF20 / 2 pounds / DM6 / $2) ( 80 A5 pages in English: °°°° France °°°° Creme Anglaise, 13 rue Rougemont, F-75009 Paris (aroel at epf.fr) °°°° UK °°°° Creme Anglaise, 36A Halliford Str. London N13EL (cheques payable to A. Roels) °°°° Germany °°°° Creme Anglaise, c/o Petra Wersch,Breyeller Str.22 D-41334 Nettetal °°°° America °°°° Creme Anglaise, c/o Matt Neimark, 341 Summer St. Sommerville MA 02144 (mattn at neurometrix.com) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 5 20:54:39 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:54:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Born old, sadly wise In-Reply-To: <28600457D4@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: i realise this message is a bit behind the times, but i just checked my mail, so i apologise for its lack of timeliness. no teacher bashing, please. anyway, as a 21 yr old, i agree with winsome but hopeless. when i first heard b&s, i felt an instant nostalgia--as if i had always known them. since im from the states, and i ive only heard them once (in NYC) im kind of lacking in esoteric knowledge and obscure lyrics, but i, too, always cry at endings--change is a scary thing. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 08:56:03 1997 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 00:56:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The Enclave etc. Message-ID: Don't worry..no Sarah rowing outa me. The nice listman asked for no mo, so shut it, I will..... On a lighter note.....I went to see a film last weekend (House Of Yes, which was piss-yer-self funny by the way...) anyhoo.... as i'm sitting down, I see this familiar face sat down behind me...and it's John Bauccio from The Enclave! He just moved from New York to LA and got a job at Vapor Records....(home of Acetone)....It was SO good to see him...The last time I saw him was in NYC for the Belle & Sebastian shows....He seemed sad and nostalgic about The Enclave stopping, and seemed a bit soft when he saw I was wearing my wee B&S badge...It's odd to find a label person who REALLY loves the band they're working with...and he really does love Belle & Sebastian...He asked if I had 3..6...9..Seconds Of Light and asked what my favourite track is...I said "A Century Of Fakers" and he said "REALLY!!? No! Mine is 'Beautiful'!!" I hope there are people at their next American label who adore them so..... He also said there is a dat floating round of one of the NYC shows!!!! Beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 09:03:56 1997 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 01:03:56 -0800 Subject: Sinister: fame? maybe not... Message-ID: I don't know Jarvis Cocker, or Damon from Blur (tho I did see his willy once in a bar in LA, cause he had a waz with the door right open...of course I looked. sheesh. He didn't wash his hands either. Ew.) But in NYC, Stuart Murdoch started chatting to me about my SFA patch on my jumper and I went "um...ergh....ak....sputter....och......" Then smoothly added, as i'm SO smooth...... "you're not a bloody HUN are you?" (NO OFFENSE TO YOU RANGERS ON THE LIST...I SUPPORT ABERDEEN SO I *HAVE* TO HATE THE HUNS.)" He started laughing and just looked at me like I was off my trolly....and said "no..not really....I tend to support Celtic..." At least I THINK that's what he said. My head was spinning and I was about to pass out. But who wouldn't with a stuffy nose and a foot in their mouth? fame indeed. beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 5 21:13:29 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 16:13:29 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: comment and a query In-Reply-To: Message-ID: sorry, i was only at the CMJ show--and some tall husky idiot was standing in front of me and yelling to his sister on my other side. as for my claim to fame, when i saw geneva at CMJ, my friend and i stood around the stage entrance 'til they emerged, and then we asked them out for beers. stuart said to meet them at a pub dowm the street. when we got there, it was so crowded that we missed them--after about 20 min., we saw keith(?) walk out the door but couldnt get his attention through the crowd. so much for our brush with stardom. of course we told all our friends that we had a very entertaining evening. as it was, we ran into 3 scottish kids on holiday from cambridge--we talked british music and american cigarettes for a while--the evenin was by no means a total loss. anyway, that was the best we yanks could do. oh, for paige in new york, you should check out the peculiar pub--its in the village and it has great cider on tap. love, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 20:35:23 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 20:35:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I bloody love the Razorcuts, me In-Reply-To: <01BCEA02.CD9EC5A0@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971105203523.0068fd98@mail.u-net.com> At 03:52 PM 11/5/97 -0000, Nigel Turner wrote: > >>Anyone else keen on the Razorcuts ? > Nigey Nige! I've got all the old stuff, Big Pink Cake etc... the 2 Creation albums were just wonderful..and both on ONE cd jangle jangle POP songs! Tunes! I Heard You The First Time! You Act Like You've Got Something Worth Saying! Summer In Your Heart! They were the BEST (well, one of the BESTS ever). Anyone got any of the Carousel 12" singles? Some of Heavenly sang on those, Sorrow Is The Way To Love is a fave of mine.. Incidentally, my fave Sarah single was Heavenly's 'Our Love Is Heavenly' a pop gem indeed.. Ramble ramble sorry no B&S content but so what, if this was a list about cheese and all we talked about was cheese it would be really dull, eh. JJ xxx ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Wed Nov 5 20:38:15 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 20:38:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: end of Sarah party In-Reply-To: References: <01BCEA05.E2DE8060@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971105203815.0068fd98@mail.u-net.com> >I was there, and I remember that particular ruck happening...watched by >a rather amused David Gedge, who was powerless to intervene due to >having the remains of his picnic lunch and loads of coats and stuff to >contend with. > >Some party....feels like it was yesterday.... > >Mike I was there too! July 1995! Or was it August..anyway I had flown back from Greece to Gatwick and straight away drove down to Bristol... I just remember it being VERY VERY hot in the Thekla and Secret Shine being really shite. I think. I can't remember much JJ xx ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ianmacdonald at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 21:11:37 1997 From: ianmacdonald at xxx.net (Ian MacDonald) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:11:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Aberdonian Tigermilk request Message-ID: <199711052132.VAA14663@boober.lineone.net> I vaguely remember someone from my part of the world claiming to be one of the chosen 1000. If this is true (and I do not doubt it) , can they get in touch for a trade :- for 45 minutes aural pleasure I am willing to part with a blank tape and a couple of pints of dark frothing brew. PLEASE. (and thankyou) I now refute my earlier misguided claims of being boring. Whilst leafing through yellow pages in search of "BOBSLEIGHS" , I came across "BORING" only to be told "See Civil Engineers". Nuff said. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 5 21:36:35 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:36:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Various things at once (to keep Paul happy) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The seven members of Belle and Sebastian make incomparably beautiful > music. Led by the cuddly Stuart Murdoch, the band's sublime pop flits Erm, maybe I'm just being stupid here, but I thought there were 8 members at the moment? I seem to remember another article (possibly the NME one) saying there were 7 as well. Can anyone help me here? Meeting up sounds like a good idea, I'd have thought the best time would be before one of the Manchester gigs. Just so long as we know as soon as the dates are finally anounced, so as we know which day(s?) to get tickets for. Famous encounters; last Thursday afternoon I was shopping in Sainsbury's, and I was served by Elvis. He had a problem with entering a tub of margarine into the till, so he had to call the supervisor, and it was Lord Lucan. He rode over to the till on the back of Shergar. Just thought you might like to know. Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 5 23:11:03 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:11:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: first posting In-Reply-To: <199711052031.MAA21204@mail3.sirius.com> Message-ID: i also DO NOT have a copy of tigermilk, so im afraid i cant add to that 9%. sorry. anyway, you are missing out by not knowing jarvis cocker. however, i must say that most of the more esoteric musical references are winging right over my head as well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bijoux13 at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 00:37:17 1997 From: bijoux13 at xxx.com (Felicia Daniel) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 16:37:17 PST Subject: Sinister: comment and a query Message-ID: <19971106003717.4765.qmail@hotmail.com> >here's another B&S query for ya: was anyone else on this list at >their NYC gig on Sunday Sep. 7? (not the CMJ show on the 6th) I was >there...just wondering what other people's experiences with it >were...and did anyone make note of the setlist? > well, i *know* that there must be more of us lurking about who were at the show. myself, i felt like it was practically a religious experience (maybe the temple-as-venue thing helped a bit, but only a wee bit). and the setlist, you ask? well, i've got a photo of myself holding it...i can post the song rundown if no one's done so yet. cheers, felicia :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Skreddy56 at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 02:07:27 1997 From: Skreddy56 at xxx.com (Skreddy56 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 21:07:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: modern rock song Message-ID: <971105191236_1015316770@emout05.mail.aol.com> I don't know if anyone's posted this yet (I've had trouble reading all these messages), but my local record store's distributor has the "Modern Rock Song" EP scheduled for Dec. 5 release. Is this accurate? --Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 03:52:03 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 22:52:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Geriatrics Message-ID: <971105224928_-490072933@emout11.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-04 14:23:25 EST, you write: > likely too old wanting > > to admit it. Please > > someone come out and pretend to be older than me > > or something. Or give me > > a medal for still liking decent music and caring > > at my age. Or something. Oh Lordy -- I'm old enough to be the mother of most of you. I've even got the Duke beaten... I'm 43. Mostly I don't feel it, thanks to music. Today, however, I do, having been out too late seeing Stereolab two nights ago and getting lost in Harlem on the way home. Just don't bounce back like I used to. what's everyone's claim to fame? Not fame, but here goes: When I was in 8th grade (about 14 years old), Jim Morrison of the Doors asked me to come along to NY with him. My best friend and I had sneaked around back after the show and came face to face with the band, which we wanted to do -- but didn't really probably. So we made some inane chatter and I asked where they were going next, eliciting the invitation. (Be still my adolescent heart!) Being a very good Catholic school girl, I was on my way to saying, "No thank you, sigh" when along came my mother who ruined it all by saying it for me. He had gotten kind of bloated by then anyhow and had switched to brown leather pants which weren't as sexy as the black ones by half. And here ya go Matt: Several years later, while passing the stage door on our way in to see Ten Years After, a friend and I were in a slight disagreement. Some guy lounging in the doorway began to mimic us and got us pissed off. Thinking he was a roadie, we launched into him, calling him various and assorted names which I will not repeat here as they are politically incorrect and I am now older, wiser and more sensitive (and most of you are British). I believe we won the verbal battle. When the stage lights came up, we discovered that the object of our vilification was none other than Rod Stewart -- who we didn't know from a hole in the ground then. But to this day I feel very little regret. And then there are the tales we don't tell because our sons are on this list as well... --michele ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 04:29:57 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 23:29:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Some Canadian stuff (I think). Message-ID: <971105231302_-1811521873@emout05.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-05 10:14:35 EST, you write: > performance take place in a 150-year-old cathedral. Church services at the > cathedral are still presumably free, but rumor has it that use of God's > quarters for that September evening of mellow melodies enhanced by fellow > Scots the Pastels cost the band $10,000 At least 150 years old, but I believe it is a former Synagogue, as it had Stars of David carved in the woodwork and what seemed to be the woman's gallery above... I think it is an art space now, not a "working" place of worship . If they paid $10,000. they were ripped off... (maybe they sold off the last box of Tigermilk copies to pay for the rental). --michele ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From goldenboy at xxx.net Thu Nov 6 04:08:36 1997 From: goldenboy at xxx.net (jason) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 15:08:36 +1100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Sinister Message-ID: unsubsribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 6 05:39:15 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 00:39:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Some Canadian stuff (I think). In-Reply-To: <971105231302_-1811521873@emout05.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: i have to agree with michele about the NY venue. given the level of disrepair (and also the mirrored disco-ball), i highly doubt anyone holds services anymore, and yes, it was a synagogue. laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From dickon at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 07:52:42 1997 From: dickon at xxx.uk (Richard Edwards) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 07:52:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: unfair kind of fame Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19971106084528.1c67cd0c@easynet.co.uk> Here's my useless thoughts on recent list subjects, skim as applicable: 1) Rock Legends Part 374: The Jeepster Story Yes, Orlando were signed to the label in December 1995, but sadly didn't release anything for boring money-related reasons. From Sarah to Jeepster to Mike Alway/Geoff Travis' Blanco Y Negro. We have taste, what can I say? Mark Jones had a Post-It by the desk that said "SKIN UP YOU CAAAANT", which I always wondered about, but was too afraid to ask. 2) Claims to Fame I think it's funny that a mailing list for a band that (commendably) rejects the fame and PR machine so much should be concerned with prostrating themselves before "names"... it seems Baudrillard was right. Still, the Jim Morrison one was pretty impressive. As for me, I could relay many anecdotes and scurrilous tales since entering the evil music business. But here's a few: I've been on a homosexual TV show, playing guitar with the words "Miserable Spice" written up my arm. You could read my lyrics on Ceefax as the song played. Noel Gallagher came over to me at an aftershow party once when I was in full eyeliner and shiny suit mode, and was so charming I won't have a bad word said against him. My friend Howard tried to chat up Gore Vidal the other week when I was with him. Oh, and I met Russell Harty once. He took the mickey out of my gran's Weight Watchers autograph book. And my album has had great reviews in Gay Times and Penthouse UK. But my proudest moment to date is this: the latest issue of the Pastels newsletter, "Pastelism", namechecks me as cool. Noel who? 3) Tigermilk copies Amelia Fletcher has one. Blanco Y Negro has at least one. Ian Watson, Melody Maker writer, has one. Sandy Blair, internet wizard friend of mine has one. Harvey Williams, who thinks B & S are the Orchids without the beerguts, has one. I don't have a copy myself: but like the Pooh Sticks song, I've got it on tay-ay-ape. Along with everything by the Ronettes. I've got "Falling and Laughing". The original Postcard version. I've got The Pastels' "Songs for Children". Sky Saxon's solo album... Sorry, I'll get a grip. I do recall "Tigermilk" coming out, and (heresy alert!) really hating the sleeve. To me it looked like some bad heavy metal group was behind it. Girls with no clothes on fronting boys' music. It made it into Select magazine's corner of dubious sleeve artwork, I remember. I still think the cover image is a bit creepy... the childhood purity of cuddly toys sullied by the adult nudity of breast-feeding. But then, the Tellytubbies give me the screaming ab-dabs too. Thankfully the subsequent B&S artwork has proved to be much loved in my world. But who cares what I think? 4) Sarah 100 Party - Why Violence Is Entirely Justifiable Against Music Critics I'm always pleased to see the old "Sarah 100 Tim Chipping/Neil Bouquet" ruckus rearing its lovely head on internet mailing lists over two years later. Tim, the signer of Shelly (cat no SARAH 98) and Orlando is a hot-headed firebrand of a waif who spent his formative years surviving on a rough council estate in Poole, Dorset. You can all sneer safely behind your computers now, but I dare you to cross him in the flesh. Neil out of Bouquet frankly had it coming to him, even his ex-girlfriend congratulated Tim afterwards. It was a vicarious thrill for many good people and a blow against the myopic, kneejerk, lazy critics and cowardly little shits of this world. I was honoured that he got himself thrown out defending a record I made and I'm amused that Tim's actions clearly upstaged the rest of that evening's tweefest (Bristol, summer 1995). There should be a blue plaque on that boat. I myself am completely incapable of violence, I take it out on myself and on guitars, which is a shame because there are so many names on my dartboard these days. Thoughts of hurting certain journalists, for example, cross my mind daily. Any Americans here willing to get me a Uzi? I can swap.... (snip!) Belle and Sebastian leaving the NME out in the rain? Great stuff, but next time if Murdoch and co want to gang up and "do a Bjork" on a journalist I'll happily hold their coats. Don't phone, it's only a bit of fun. dickon x Fosca homepage: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/4152 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Nov 5 22:13:45 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 23:13:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sumpin' new References: Message-ID: <3460EF98.EB9A55B5@colon.net.> Honey wrote: > On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta > wrote: > > > superbob wrote: > > > > > what's everyone's claim to fame? > > > > > > i'll start. > > > > I once saw Terry Scott (of Curlywurlyfame) eating an ice > cream in > > Bournemouth. I think he was pissed. > > OK. > > 1. I once had a video camera pointed at me in some > football stadium in > Spain next to Johan Cruyff - I felt such an arse as I was > dressed in an > identical striped shirt to my two brothers (younger and > older, now leading > executives in Ford and Mitsubishi respectively). I think > we were supposed > to look "cute" and were told we were going on Dutch > television. I didn't > know and don't know anything about football so I probably > even spelled his > name wrong. > I'm quite jealous. Johann Cruyff is one of my most admired people in the world. I have seen him in the flesh, but at a distance. Splendid fellow. I shouted "Big fat Ron!" at Ronald Koeman. Fortunately he took no notice. > 2. I got Tom O'Connor's autograph in Upton Village on the > Wirral when I > was 8. He was opening a record shop. > Did they have Tigermilk? > 3. My gay buddhist friend in Newcastle lives next door to > someone from The > Bill. We nicked a twig from her garden. > Is gaeity allowed in Buddhism? > 4. My girlfriend Linda saw Robin Cook with his wife in the > Loon Fung > restaurant in Edinburgh. He didn't look very happy > apparently. > I saw him sitting on the Glasgow-Edinburgh train once. First class, the traitor. He was busy with some papers. > 5. I know Peter Miller. > He's a bastard, isn't he? > 6. I had a chat with Patrick Moore in an observatory in La > Palma, in the > Canaries. He called me "young chap" and "my boy" a lot. > I was about 24. > I bet he'd like B&S, being a xylophone whizz. I'm quite jealous of this one too. I once met Eddie Waring's next-door neighbours. A very nice elderly couple. > 7. In a pub in Dublin last year Linda and I saw Father Ted > run in, > clutching a mobile phone, look round in a panic and run > out. This 30 > minutes after Lucian from The Liver Birds had sat drinking > at the bar. > It never rains but it pours. Is that the curly haired bloke, or am I dreaming? > Now for goodness sake let's dispense with these > irrelevancies and get on > with the list. > Whoops! It's too late now. If anyone else likes this sort of thing, there's a very good - erm - thingy on the When Saturday Comes website, called Ohmygodit'swhatsisname or something similar. I'm on it twice, but the David Icke one (yes, I've seen him too!) doesn't work properly. Your Cruyff tale would be a welcome addition, Paul. I don't know the URL offhand, but I can look it up. It's second only to Sweary Mary's Swearbox for web-based fun'n'frolics. > Sniff. > Is that regret at blowing the whistle on irrelevancies, or a big globule of snot? Petey Wetey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 09:51:06 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:51:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Younger people on the list Message-ID: <01BCEA99.8154B780@rainbow.qss.co.uk> you are a star..... much appreciated lovely! you near london? Petra [Keith Watson] Well... relative to Alpha Centauri yes... but Edinburgh in any other language. Having said that, I'll be in London next week, on Tuesday night, as I'm attending some sodding Microsoft Developers conference on Queen Victoria Street (?!) the next day and flying back on Wednesday so if anyone fancies a drink on Tuesday night in London, let me know. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 09:53:10 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 09:53:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: autobiographies Message-ID: <01BCEA99.CAB867F0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> I've got a cat called Charlotte. She's named after Charlotte Gainsbourg. If I get another one I'll call her Mittens, in honour of Ralph Wiggum. [Keith Watson] My Flatmate used to have a cat called Mescherschmitt 109, which he once took to the vet and had to fill in the form with the details, and filled in that his cat was called me109, the usual abbreviation for this plane and the vet came out a while later, confused and saying "Can I see melog please?" Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 10:09:19 1997 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:09:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: being young Message-ID: <8D1A5857A9D@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> > This Sarah records thing is, I'm afraid to say, going straight over > my head. Zooom! If you want to know what you are missing I'll do you a tape of some of the better stuff, or come along to Offbeat - I play a selection of Sarah stuff.... ... you will also get to meet the legendary Neily Weely spoken of recently on this list!! Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jmf at xxx.net Thu Nov 6 10:27:52 1997 From: jmf at xxx.net (John) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:27:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: london meet! Message-ID: <01bcea9e$a3362be0$4a0181c2@JohnF.plc.psion.com> I think I'd probably show up. I live in London, and haven't killed anybody for about 12 years. -----Original Message----- From: faeiry To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: 05 November 1997 20:09 Subject: Sinister: london meet! > >NOW PLEASE WILL EVERYONE BE HELPFUL *lovely smile* > >I'M WANTING TO ARRANGE A BELLE AND SEBASTIAN MEET IN LONDON... > >..... HOWEVER.... > >TO DO THIS, I'LL HAVE TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BOTHER SHOWING UP, AND >FROM THERE, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ARRANGE IT ALL.... ie meeting places >and the like > >I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH FUN IF THIS ACCTUALLY HAPPENED, SO PLEASE, IF >ANYONE WOULD BE SO KIND, WRITE BACK TO ME AND TELL ME IF YOU'RE NEAR OR >LIVING IN LONDON. > >THANKS! > >PETRA > >ALSO. I DOUBT THAT ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS LIST ARE MASS MURDERERS OF >ANYTHING.... i hope! > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 10:31:20 1997 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:31:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: National Lottery!/Neily Weely/forthcoming gigs in Sheff/Leeds Message-ID: <8D202E46CB8@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Hiya all - I know this is not strictly B&S stuff but is related to the current list discussions! 'Neily Weely' AKA Neil from Bouquet is still in the tweepop business - his band Bouquet has released a single recently...pretty good actually, something about flying saucers ... AND...most bizarre - they've just been given a £3000 grant from the lottery to make an album....well those tossers at the Opera get cash from the lottery, so why not indiepop bands!! Moving on via a tenuous link ...Bouquet's guitarist, Chris, is in another band called Velodrome 2000...who are brilliant....imagine a a cross between Talulah Gosh, surf punk and 70's disco!!??....anyway, they are just about to start a tour to promote their new 'Charity Shopping' EP.... Anyone into Talulah Gosh/Sarah records/any of that scene would love em', so go along to see them at TOMORROW - Friday 7th November - Sheffield Speakeasy, Abbeydale RD (With OFFBEAT DISCO - me DJing and playing loads of B&Seb!) Sat 8th Nov - Leeds Fenton (with Bouquet!!) Sun 9th Nov - Leicester Physio & Firkin Tues 11th Nov -Glasgow 13th Note Wed 12th Nov - Newcastle - Byker, Cumberland Arms (with Milky Wimpshake) Thur 13th Nov - Manchester, Night and Day Cafe, Oldham St For more details email me...... Finally, and totaly unrelated!!!.... .....anyone going to see Half Man Half Biscuit in Leeds tonight?? Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 10:33:03 1997 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:33:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: end of Sarah party Message-ID: <8D20AB945B1@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> > > I just remember it being VERY VERY hot in the Thekla and Secret Shine > being really shite. I think. I can't remember much > > JJ > xx No way! - they were ace....in fact everybody was, especially the Orchids when they played 'Something for the longing', and the one-off reformation of Brighter was cool too. Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 10:45:43 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:45:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Geriatrics Message-ID: <01BCEAA1.22766530@rainbow.qss.co.uk> When the stage lights came up, we discovered that the object of our vilification was none other than Rod Stewart -- who we didn't know from a hole in the ground then. But to this day I feel very little regret. And then there are the tales we don't tell because our sons are on this list as well... [Keith Watson] Sound - Rod the Mod. He kicks ass, and footballs and will always be in my heart. Cool stories of Rock n'Roll debauchery though, liked the Jim Morrison one, I would have expected him to be leaping about screaming about the Lizard King and ejecting frozen fish fingers from the ship to lighten the load etc.etc. My tales of Rock and Roll are generally dull as I don't really like people from bands as a whole they tend to be tossers. Had an argument with all of Space and their roadies in Negociants in Edinburgh last year as I gave them a good shouting at for treating the student union helpers like shite and pointing out that they're not paid for what they do (they had been moaning on about the lack of professionalism all night). Stood on Richard Ashcroft's foot at a Verve gig Dec 1993 with Oasis in Support at the Cathouse in Glasgow (to which I've since read that apparently the electricity failed, and Noel joined Ashcroft on the stage for an a-cappella version of She'll be coming round the mountain. I've read this twice now from different sources and can happily assure everyone that this DID NOT happen in any way shape or form. No power failure, no supergroup, no shit childrens songs.) Saw the Queen in Cumbernauld 1977. Used to walk past Alastair Darling MP on the way to Uni every day Drink in a pub in Edinburgh that regularly boasts the "City Lights" actors (Tam, Chancer etc) and Lloyd Quinan Weatherman That's enough for now though. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 08:31:01 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 03:31:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Eeyore References: <1.5.4.32.19971105141358.0066bf38@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: <34618045.7A74@interaccess.com> Eeyore wrote: > Eeyore's a girl.... I thought Eeyore was a blue donkey who didn't like anything. I always thought he was a boy donkey :) Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 10:37:29 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 10:37:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Sinister Message-ID: <01BCEA9F.FC0B9B50@rainbow.qss.co.uk> -----Original Message----- From: jason [SMTP:goldenboy at xxx.net] Sent: Thursday, November 06, 1997 4:09 AM To: sinister at majordomo.net Cc: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: Re: Sinister unsubsribe sinister [Keith Watson] I think perhaps the next time we get this sort of thing posted to the list, we should all bombard the culprit with "Oh no, please don't leave" mails... hee hee. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 11:50:07 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:50:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: claims to fame Message-ID: <199711061152.LAA01655@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> While we're on the subject, I told Jarvis Cocker that he couldn't sit next to me at the Union Chapel B&S do this year. Which I enjoyed. And which brings the topic right back to the list. Cheers. Anyway, I was saving the place for a friend of mine whose claim to fame is far greater than Cocker's: her great grandfather was the captain of the first professional football team ever to win the FA cup. Wow. TimH begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(@P+`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0 at 36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02``0`A````4D4Z(%-I M;FES=&5R.B!293H at 8VQA:6US('1O(&9A;64`X at H!"8`!`"$````W-3DW0S-! 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M4U1%4B!53DE615)32519+T]5/4U334%)3"]#3CU214-)4$E%3E13+T-./4U3 M($U!24P at 4D5#25!)14Y44R]#3CU!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0`>`/@_`0````H` M``!(;W!K:6YS(%0````>`#A``0````\```!!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0```@'[ M/P$```!T`````````-RG0,C`0A`:M+D(`"LOX8(!````!@```"]//4Q!3D-! M4U1%4B!53DE615)32519+T]5/4U334%)3"]#3CU214-)4$E%3E13+T-./4U3 M($U!24P at 4D5#25!)14Y44R]#3CU!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0`>`/H_`0````H` M``!(;W!K:6YS(%0````>`#E``0````\```!!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0``0``' M,/`?P:FIZKP!0``(,``:"]NIZKP!'@`]``$````%````4D4Z(``````>`!T. M`0```!T```!3:6YI This is my first message to the list and its in reference to ordering merchandise from the B+S fanclub. Having seen the merchandise available for B+S, which can be found on the B+S official website, I was happy to order a couple of T-shirts. I telephoned and paid by credit card and the process was simple and accessable. Well this morning they arrived(exactly 1 week to the day)and I am pleased to say that the T-shirts are excellent. Why this message? I hear you all cry......... ----------------- Well quite simply - the service was excellent and I wanted to repay the swiftness and reliable handling with a big thumbs up. Anyone with any doubts about this mail order service should think again and lovingly investigate with open arms. now what else should I order..............??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 12:26:37 1997 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (Simon Tyers) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 12:26:37 GMT Subject: Sinister: No 'Milk today Message-ID: <199711061226.MAA16083@aether.cms.dmu.ac.uk> ...in Leicester anyway. However,in Rockaboom (Leicester's premier indie store) IYFS is in 'New Releases' at 12.99. Explain. Simon Tyers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 12:57:40 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:57:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ecclessi-tastic! Message-ID: So our heros want to tour Cathedrals! Wow! I reckon there's a new comp. to be begun - Name that tour! "Belle and Sebastian - Rockin' the Vestry in 1998". [if only it was Cock Fun in the Vestry...] My claim to fame is that i was at school with Radiohead. When I see them bestriding the world like the Rock Collossus they have become I smile and think of Abingdon School - I saw them play the school pavilion at our summer fate (when they were still called On a Friday). Bassist Ed O'Brian was captain of the school 2nd eleven Cricket team the year before me. That's the closest i've come to rock'n'roll infamy. I'm looking forward to a London meet up. Katrina - I've posted the stamps John - I'm sending the tape today. Everybody Wang Chung tonight! john xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Matilda.Moore at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 13:17:34 1997 From: Matilda.Moore at xxx.com (Matilda Moore) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:17:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ecclessi-tastic! Message-ID: ---------- From: "Johnston, John CT" To: "'sinister'" Subject: Sinister: ecclessi-tastic! Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 12:57:40 -0000 So our heros want to tour Cathedrals! Wow! I reckon there's a new comp. to be begun - Name that tour! "Belle and Sebastian - Rockin' the Vestry in 1998". [if only it was Cock Fun in the Vestry...] ---------------------------------------- WOW!!!!!! What a fantastic idea. Belle & Sebstain in a cathedral!!!!!!! It would sound amazing. My claim to fame is that last year I went to see Fist Of Fun live at my local Arts Centre and after the show spent about half an hour talking to Richard Herring. I have both him and Stews autographs though. I have also met Dylan Moran & Mike Atherton the England cricket captian. Speak to you all soon Love Tilly XXXXX ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stip at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 13:36:57 1997 From: Stip at xxx.uk (Stip / Blue Music) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:36:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bring on the Bomb Squad In-Reply-To: Message-ID: You get a bad feeling and that's it. Usually I can't justify it, but yesterday it was more than just bad vibes. I just moved into a new flat in West London. I hate moving, and spent the whole of yesterday day cloaked in a frown and a foul disposition. It didn't improve matters when I dragged yet another hoard of binbags around the corner to come face to face with what appeared to be the riot police outside my new home... We're talking vans, sirens, full protective regalia, the lot. Not particularly condusive to glee in one's new abode. No sign of rampant violence, though. I stand petrified, in search of the brawl. By this time a not inconsiderable crowd has gathered and it tranpires that the officers in question are in fact the bomb squad, who've come to investigate a suspect package. There's these bloody great dogs pacing about, and I seem to be the only one eager to get the hell out of there before said 'bomb' blows us all to buggery. And it's about this time I start having second thoughts about my choice of residential location. Anyway, all is well. Transpires that the old woman downstairs is a little, how shall I put it, over-cautious, and she'd been posted this suspect package which had installed the fear of God in her. Apparently her husband is something to do with the Conservative party and she was worried that someone was after him. The police eventually revealed the contents of the package to The Terrorist's Prime Target, now hysterical. It was a Church of Scotland collection box. So I don't know how it's going to be in my new flat. I may have a bastion of insatiable paranoia for a neighbour but hey, at least the street's still in one piece. Yesterday's events meant that I got very little unpacking done, but I plugged in my stereo and last night, armed with a Pot Noodle, a bottle of Tequila and a plastic cup, forgot the towering boxes around me and settled down with Belle and Sebastian. Home Sweet Home. Nicola xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 6 14:06:19 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:06:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Various things at once (to keep Paul happy) References: Message-ID: <3461CEDB.5BA4@virgin.net> Stuart Gardiner wrote: > Erm, maybe I'm just being stupid here, but I thought there were 8 > members > at the moment? I seem to remember another article (possibly the NME > one) > saying there were 7 as well. Can anyone help me here? There used to be six, then Sarah joined to make seven. Mick (Cooke, trumpeter) is the occasional "member" (he isn't officially a member, just a session muso). Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 6 14:06:07 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:06:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: so, er, what's up with the archive? References: <80256546.00375B11.00@bull.co.uk> Message-ID: <3461CECF.3C23@virgin.net> Andrew.Dean at BULL.NET wrote: > andy > and what do i do with the other 49 stickers with today's > melody maker? Ummm, and Mr Dean, what in your opinion was the decent one? Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 6 14:06:17 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:06:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: autobiographies References: <01BCEA0C.25930330@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <3461CED9.2DFC@virgin.net> > 2. My ex-boyfriend Fraser procured me a "Judy and the Dream of > Horses" mug. Does anyone else have one? I heard there were only a > few > produced. > > [Keith Watson] > Only a few indeed, Isobel designed them. There was 100 only which all sold at the Kelvingrove gig ... however, there may be another limited run to sell at the manchester gigs ... stay tuned! Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 6 14:06:05 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:06:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song missing bits References: <345F7287.919E69E7@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <3461CECD.7E68@virgin.net> the duke of harringay wrote: > > R.E.W. Butler wrote: > > > On Mon, 3 Nov 1997, Paul Dean wrote: > > > > > >Well I could tell you what I'm thinking > > > >But it never seems to do you good > > > >It's beyond me what a girl can see > > > >[?] when I'm riding buses > > > I'M ONLY HAPPY WHEN I'M RIDING BUSES?? > > > > I hear it as 'I'm only lucid when I'm riding > > buses' - I hope that's right, > > 'cos I love it like that. > > there's another version where it goes 'i'm only > lucid when i'm writing songs'. I think this is > the version that will be on the next ep...? > > keep the faith, > > the duke Yup, surely will be! Oh, and i'm sure he says:- "Stevie's full of good intentions" ,'cos Stevie used to be a counsellor for AIDS patients. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 6 14:06:23 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:06:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: modern rock song References: <971105191236_1015316770@emout05.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <3461CEDF.20C5@virgin.net> Skreddy56 at aol.com wrote: > > I don't know if anyone's posted this yet (I've had trouble reading all > these > messages), but my local record store's distributor has the "Modern > Rock Song" > EP scheduled for Dec. 5 release. Is this accurate? > > --Matt Ummm, basically no it's not. B&S will not be releasing anything now until next year, when the Modern Rock Song EP and the new LP will be released Feb/March-ish. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 6 14:06:09 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:06:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester References: <91CD7B6C57@derwent.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3461CED1.1C8E@virgin.net> Chris Worth wrote: > Katrina! > I'm sure you said sometime last week that the details of the > Manchester gig(s) were going to be released the next day, and that > you'd let us all know that day. Maybe I've missed the message and the > dates are all sold out by now, at which point I would seriously have > to contemplate becoming a monk, devoting myself to a contemplative > life... We've had confirmation of the dates as being 27th and 28th December (Sat+Sun nights) and ticket details will come next week! Book that time off now!!! Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Thu Nov 6 13:54:17 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:54:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nyc sunday set list Message-ID: <80256547.004FDD82.00@bull.co.uk> >here's another B&S query for ya: was anyone else on this >list at their NYC gig on Sunday Sep. 7? (not the CMJ show >on the 6th) I was there...just wondering what other >people's experiences with it were...and did anyone make >note of the setlist? (hi flea!) Set List: Century Of Fakers Stars Of Track And Field Expectations She's Losing It Is It Wicked Not To Care? Slow Graffiti Lazy Line Painter Jane Sleeping The Clock Around Rollercoaster Ride A Summer Wasted Like Dylan In The Movies Loneliness Of A Middle-Distance Runner this should be on the web site by now but i've had, er, other things on my mind 8) i'm still missing a set list from the saturday cmj-only show btw. oh, and i can't believe 10,000 dollars for the gig hire, even given they were there for 2 days. 10000 pounds for the whole trip i've heard quoted but that may be a bit low given that there are so many in the band and they were all there for a week or so. who knows? there was something else... it's gone. soz. ah, this stuff was also available in the archives. the address is in the little footer thing that's put on all sinister messages, look, just down there at the bottom. see it? good. you can even search them now. andy but you can call me 'trouble'... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 13:57:06 1997 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 13:57:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: People are the Lights of Every City Message-ID: <40DD5B075F@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> City Lights! Now *there's* something that should be reffered to in a B+S song! PS Why is the main guy from City Lights in Brookside (can't remember his name) I thought he was languashing in panto hell. -------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mahmed at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 14:52:50 1997 From: mahmed at xxx.uk (mahmed at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:52:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: london meet! References: <01bcea9e$a3362be0$4a0181c2@JohnF.plc.psion.com> Message-ID: <3461D9C2.1BED@meto.gov.uk> I would like to come along for the inaugural meeting of B&S Appreciation Society (London and Home Counties Chapter). As I live in Reading, travelling is no problem for me. Mussadiq > -----Original Message----- > From: faeiry > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Date: 05 November 1997 20:09 > Subject: Sinister: london meet! > > > > >NOW PLEASE WILL EVERYONE BE HELPFUL *lovely smile* > > > >I'M WANTING TO ARRANGE A BELLE AND SEBASTIAN MEET IN LONDON... > > > >..... HOWEVER.... > > > >TO DO THIS, I'LL HAVE TO KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD BOTHER SHOWING UP, AND > >FROM THERE, I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO ARRANGE IT ALL.... ie meeting places > >and the like > > > >I THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH FUN IF THIS ACCTUALLY HAPPENED, SO PLEASE, IF > >ANYONE WOULD BE SO KIND, WRITE BACK TO ME AND TELL ME IF YOU'RE NEAR OR > >LIVING IN LONDON. > > > >THANKS! > > > >PETRA > > > >ALSO. I DOUBT THAT ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS LIST ARE MASS MURDERERS OF > >ANYTHING.... i hope! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 15:06:36 1997 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (Simon Tyers) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 15:06:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: so, er, what's up with the archive? Message-ID: <199711061506.PAA15657@aether.cms.dmu.ac.uk> > andy > and what do i do with the other 49 stickers with today's > melody maker? Send me the Kenickie one,then. Simon Tyers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R2-CROWLEY at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 14:50:00 1997 From: R2-CROWLEY at xxx.uk (Rodney Crowley) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 14:50:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Everything Message-ID: New to the list and just exploding with pleasure that so many people love B&S and POP! so bloody much. And such pleasant conversation. Reminiscent of early indiepop-l days (if anyone remembers). And even a few old faces, Alistair, Andy... So, my first post and so many things to say... Myself: Frighteningly 30 already and still feeling 16. A punk-rock librarian stranded in a once POP-friendly Bristol. There in the early days of C86 and still sort of here despite occasional digressions (I once gave up on 'indiepop' for a couple of years solely because of the relentless mediocrity of the likes of Bouquet). Married now with a baby - Sean Matthew (named after Matt Haynes but don't tell my wife*) 3 weeks old today. Responsibility at last mixed in with occasion irresponsibility when I can get away with it. No Tigermilk I'm afraid (maybe someone might help me out with a tape sometime. I'd be SO SO grateful (not "so-so" - you know what I mean)). Sarah: Clearly they went off the boil a wee bit post Saropoly (certainly with their albums, less so with the singles) but there are still treasurable moments - Aberdeen for one (Beth, I think the Duke was being naughty - I don't think he meant it). But I bought them all anyway (apart from either 12" single - I still have some principles). The thing about Sarah which was always just as important as the music was the politics, and they never really let anyone down. And I'm certain that all non-cynical B&S fans worth their salt would find many, many things to love in the Sarah tapestry if they'd only dip their toe in the water... Ignore these disbelievers!! Football: What is it with B&S and internet football fans? This surely rides wholly against what one might expect the B&S fan stereotype to be. Anyway I'm a Chelsea fan of 22 years standing (so no gloryhunting jibes) and am a member of the mailing list. So there. Oh, and I read somewhere that supporting a lower-league club was the football equivalent of being an indie-fan. Any comments you Grecians or Hornets? Bedford 1986: Nigel, I'm guessing that the Razorcuts gig you mentioned was the legendary one also starring Talulah Gosh and the Pastels (*imagine* that line-up!). I WAS THERE! I travelled up from Darkest Essex, didn't have anywhere to stay and went home finally getting back at 8.30 the next morning. Wonderful gig, evoking such nostalgia for *the* summer of POP anarchy. I'd give anything to get a copy of the video and perhaps catch a glimpse of my 19 year-old self swathed in youthful cool and an uber-smart flowery anorak... And I wanted to nick one of your cool posters too but I was too scared. Nigel, please let me know if you can help. Claims to Fame: Promoting the first McCarthy gig in the North-East of England and talking to Roy Hudd once when I was about 6. One of these is the highlight of my life. Naivete: And finally for some kind of proper B&S content. I love them, they move me. They make me feel like someone discovering POP for the first time and it's a long time since I've felt like that. Clearly most of you feel exactly the same. The lyrics are *so* unusual and sensitive and insightful. Quite marvellous. But does anyone else think that just occasionally words will come out that sound a little like a college music project. Awkward and clumsy, slightly naive. Examples you say...well...most of 'Fox in the Snow' for a start. And 'Dylan in the Movies'. Now I've gone and said it I'm racking my brain for other examples but I just can't think. Basically, just now and again I'll be listening and the words will jar slightly...My point is, if I have one, simply that the band seem to have this wonderful gift and are mostly using it to the full but now and again they'll fill in the gaps with something less artistically divine. Ah well. I still love 'em. RodneyXX *I suggested Stuart and Ruud for names too but wasn't given the time of day. So Matt it was. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ibarrett at xxx.ie Thu Nov 6 15:29:00 1997 From: ibarrett at xxx.ie (Ian Barrett) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 97 15:29 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: I've met most of Wilco and symposium, Fergus Gibson and Joe Duffy (irish celebs) seen lots of people from Fair City and Glenroe (irish soaps) and my couisn was on holidays this year and met Posh spice, David Beckham, Carol and Bianca from eastenders. ian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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C ya Paul ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6789 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From zzalsng at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 16:02:17 1997 From: zzalsng at xxx.uk (Nick Gould) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:02:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: Manchester In-Reply-To: <3461CED1.1C8E@virgin.net> Message-ID: Dear all, > We've had confirmation of the dates as being 27th and 28th December > (Sat+Sun nights) and ticket details will come next week! > I only joined the list for this! Talk about sweaty palms! Also I'm 34 (going on 50), and have no copy of Tigermilk. Talking of fey Scottish bands, does anyone remember "Honey at the Core" by Friends Again? (dreadful name, early 80s). It started off something like- "My Aunt Alice was a startlet And everywhere she went she was hounded by the press..." I know B&S don't play the conventional places but do they do weddings? They're one of the few bands we both "dig". Cheers, Nick Nick Gould, Information Systems Development Officer Faculty of Economic and Social Studies University of Manchester N.GOULD at MAN.AC.UK Tel 0161-275-4880 http://nt2.ec.man.ac.uk/nick/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Nov 6 16:10:01 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 17:10:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Interview!!!! References: Message-ID: <3461EBD9.4C1C51EF@colon.net.> Madame Cholet wrote: > Stuart Murdoch started chatting to me about my SFA patch > on my jumper and I > went "um...ergh....ak....sputter....och......" Then > smoothly added, as i'm > SO smooth...... "you're not a bloody HUN are you?" (NO > OFFENSE TO YOU > RANGERS ON THE LIST...I SUPPORT ABERDEEN SO I *HAVE* TO > HATE THE HUNS.)" He > started laughing and just looked at me like I was off my > trolly....and said > "no..not really....I tend to support Celtic..." At least I > THINK that's > what he said. My head was spinning and I was about to pass > out. > Back in the days when he still did interviews, I'm sure I read somewhere that Stuart Murdoch was a keen Ayr United supporter. There was also some discussion about the origin of said football team's nickname, The Honest Men. It's not exactly The Red Devils, is it? Turns out that it comes from a poem by Robert Burns, "Nickety Nackety Noo Noo Noo" or something like that. Surprisingly, Murdoch went on to say that Burns was quite a big influence on the narrative structure of his song lyrics. At any rate it's nice to see that barriers are being broken down in the Glasgow pop/football/religion interface. Years ago there was quite a big fuss because Simple Minds raised the Irish flag over Ibrox, but now Wet Wet Wet (what an annoying name to type!) play Celtic's ground and nobody gives a fig. Here's some more selected gems from the big B&S double spread in Rock De Lux....Stevie and Richard get cornered by an interviewer, César Macondo. Why doesn't Stuart M give interviews, the miserable git?: "No reason in particular, but he does give them sometimes anyway. The thing is, the rest of the band can give the same opinions as Stuart; we have different points of view, but in the end the opinions that we can give add up to the same. He usually takes this decision because the majority of journalists go out of the way to tlk to Stuart, and he feels under pressure. But he's not really like that; when we're in a bar in Glasgow, he usually talks to everyone who comes up to him. Even the dirty old winos." "The romanticism that you're talking about has its origin in our vision of day to day life. We don't feel inspired by anyone's personality. We're much more motivated by snow, for example." (it was the perennial Smiths question) I can do some more if anyone's interested. There's nothing earth-shaking here, but it's not a bad read. The photo is better. Isobel is crouched over her cello like a member of the old group Venice in Peril, or whatever they were called. And Sarah's playing her violin, which is something I'd forgotten all about. Can't see her roller skates though. Petey Wetey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 15:05:44 1997 From: Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com (Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 11:05:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Saturday CMJ Set List Message-ID: <85256547.0057C850.00@v2music.com> Here is the Saturday CMJ Show Set List from Sept. 6th: Loneliness of A Middle-Distance Runner Modern Rock Song Judy and the Dream of Horses Seymour Stein Fox in the Snow Seeing Other People My Wandering Days Are Over Simple Things I Could Be Dreaming Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying What Goes On My friend actually snagged one of B&S' setlists from the show and put it up in the record store where he works in NYC, so I sometimes go just to look at it. What Goes On wasn't on their actual set list, but was amazing live, and Stuart danced up a storm... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From klas.ericsson at xxx.se Thu Nov 6 16:16:01 1997 From: klas.ericsson at xxx.se (Klas Ericsson) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:16:01 +0200 Subject: Sinister: My Claim To Fame Message-ID: Hi! My Claim To Fame is nothing really: When I was over in New York two months ago, I lived in the appartment of my girlfriends friend and her boyfriend. They had had Carlos (not the terrorist, but Madonnas stallion) visiting them one evening. So I guess I ´ve been sitting in the same sofa as Carlos, and overflowing the toilet which Carlos might have used! Everybody go: Woooooooooooooow!!! I also talked to Yngwie Malmsteens former drummer who had some EXCITING stories to tell. And I met Pavement on the latenight ferry from Helsingor to Helsingborg. They were playing flipper. And I´ve spoken to Stuart David for two minutes!!!!!!!!!! HOW ABOUT THAT? ///Klas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From grthom at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 16:28:09 1997 From: grthom at xxx.uk (G R Thomas) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:28:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister:register,London meet and lots,lots more (well...) Message-ID: Hello all, And now for the intro proper... After my little missive (and accompanying apology) a while back, and what with the recent register mailings, I thought it about time I contributed to the list again. Age:19 Occupation: Another student, this time studying Linguistics, here at the University of Essex, in Colchester. Been into B+S since about September/October 1996, after hearing "Judy" on Mark Radcliffe (who I have to thank for introducing me to the whole of this type of music-more of that later). My favourite B+S song is probably Judy, and I own IYFS and the 3 EPs (DOW-CD, LLPJ-CD,7,12, 369-CD,7,12).I saw the band live in Oxford in August, where I met Katrina and David. A quick little profile of what I listen to: (i'll try not to make this too long,and I really hope no-body minds me doing this) I've been listening to Hip-Hop for 8/9 years now, and UK Hip-Hop exclusively for the last 4. I've been into Jungle and Happy Hardcore since '95, and am a semi-regular raver, And basically have been into pop/rock/guitar music (call it what you want, I don't think there's one unifying term to describe the music I like outside of Hip-Hop and Hardcore dance) since about Sept. 1996. The main bands I like in this genre are B+S (obv!!), Kenickie and the Sneaker Pimps. But, since I started listening to these types of music, my tastes have broadened significatly. This month (well October/early Nov) I've bought Ash, The Shirehorses,Dweeb, China Drum, B+S, plus various Hip-Hop and Jungle singles and albums (this might give you lot a small idea of what I like). Anyway, you'll have to excuse me if this message rambles or is boring or unimportant as I'm feeling highly unwell at the moment, and my brain is absolutely swimming, as I've just had to sort my way through 215 messagesn (a whole lot for me), 99% of 'em from you lot. Anyway, the London meet sounds great. Colchester is 50 mins. away, and my home tome is Reading (a big HIYA! to Mussadiq, mail me privately if you want to compare notes), so if it falls at a point when I'm home, then that wouldn't be a prob. So kids, that's about it, I'll speak to you all again soon (I promise,) Love, GIDEONxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 16:33:18 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:33:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: London list meet Message-ID: <199711061639.QAA17865@orange.easynet.co.uk> um, I had an idea about a possible location for the London meet up. We've got a very nice bar/café where I work in Covent Garden. Not only is it perfectly situated in the heart of London's swingin' west end, but it also has a very nice B&S ambience, and we could have complete control of the sound system. We could even get David or Katrina to bring along some of their highly prized merchandise. Friday nights aren't very busy, so that would probably be the best time to do it... What do you think?? Stephen whose claim to fame is that he was once kissed by Harriet from the Sundays... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 15:23:16 1997 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:23:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: football Message-ID: <00022A1F.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> > Just how many other members of the Leicester City mailing list are > there here? It seems to be overrun with them since someone mentioned > them recently. > > Simon Tyers. > [Hopkins T] I reckon I'm the only member of the Exeter City mailing list on here, if that's any help. TimH And I would bet that I am the only Swansea City fan on this list. I think I'm the only one in Scotland. I go to about 6 games a season. My friends think I'm mad... The Archdeacon of Pop -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.230) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00020CE6; Tue, 4 Nov 97 15:46:05 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id OAA09552 for sinister-outgoing; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:47:52 GMT Received: from mail2.lancs.ac.uk (mail2.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.8.13]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA09548 for ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:47:49 GMT Message-Id: <199711041447.OAA09548 at sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Received: from exchange-iss.lancs.ac.uk by mail2.lancs.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:27:34 +0000 Received: by exchange-iss.lancs.ac.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) id ; Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:27:22 -0000 From: Hopkins T To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: RE: Sinister: football Date: Tue, 4 Nov 1997 14:26:27 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1458.49) Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Hopkins T From lucy.munro at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 21:57:54 1997 From: lucy.munro at xxx.uk (Lucy Munro) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 16:57:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk copies, claims to fame Message-ID: Some of my friends have copies of Tigermilk - well, Ben certainly does, Rupert does (and only bought it in Feb. this year, can you believe it?), and I think Steve might have. The worst thing is that I almost bought a copy at the same time as Ben (rough trade shop in Notting Hill, August '96) but didn't 'cos I was on the skint-ish side and didn't realise it was so limited. When drunk I often cry into my beer about it & bore those close to me. Claims to fame. When I was at Manchester a few years ago I almost knocked Liam Gallagher over in a pub. I was *very* drunk & at the stage where I just thought "oh, pop star" and went back to my pint. My rather more sober friend got very excited and bought him a drink. Oh, and I saw Oasis support Dodgy in the Hop and Grape in 1993, but that's not really a claim to fame, just a co-incidence. Other than that I've hardly met anyone except the odd minor indie type. Though I have got Ray Davies' authograph (v. embarrassing as I could only stutter and look completely foolish). Lucy who may have to go digestive. ---------------------- Lucy Munro lucy.munro at kcl.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From KATIE3 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 16:58:34 1997 From: KATIE3 at xxx.uk (Katie Kinnear) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 16:58:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: unfair kind of fame Message-ID: Hello I saw someone who looked v. much like Dickon in Tower Records in Camden on Saturday. But not wanting to prostrate myself in front of a "name", I didn't say anything. :) And the floor didn't look very clean. bye Katie ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jm06122 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 6 17:02:48 1997 From: jm06122 at xxx.uk (J. Moore) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:02:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hello i am new here and feel very small all of a sudden! belle and sebastian are playing in manchester on my birthday(27 of december) how cool is that! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Thu Nov 6 18:28:34 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 18:28:34 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Slow down! Message-ID: OK - no more long Sarah messages please; slow down on the claims to fame, partly because some people are taking them seriously; and no more football only messages! Sorry to be Mr Grump but some people are getting fed up with the low level of B&S content and there's a lot of people pulling out and joining the digest or leaving. I mean to make sure this list survives and has some sort of focus while staying fun and if it just dissipates into masses of mail with no focus my server won't be able to keep up and nor will I and the list may have to go one day. Remember: it's run in my spare time and on the equipment of my employer. And if some kind soul down south could volunteer to act as focal point for the London meet rather then everything going out 330 times to the list? You'll probably all hate me for this, and for God's sake don't stop having fun on the list! I still appreciate complete bollocks as much as the next dog... just... slow down! Rotten tomatoes in this direction, not to the list, Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From krivas at xxx.gov Thu Nov 6 20:48:30 1997 From: krivas at xxx.gov (Kimberly Rivas-Plata) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 15:48:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: who needs a subject? Message-ID: Greetings! I'm another new one here and I've been slightly overwhelmed by all the e-mail I've been receiving from this list. But I don't mind really cause it's about B&S. About me...I'm 23 and currently a laboratory researcher (infinitely exciting), but I'll be rejoining the ranks of students next autumn. I don't own Tigermilk (wah), though I do have IYFS and 3 EPs. I won't bore you all to tears about how much I love B&S or how I found out about them (partly because they're rather mundane stories and mostly because I'm sure you've heard it all before) but I will say that everyone I've ever introduced to B&S was almost instantly smitten. Now that's good songwriting! Claim to fame...well, I met Neil Hannon after a show he did here in Washington D.C. - The DC in D.C. the show was touted as. I was the only one in the small audience that cheered when he announced that his next song would be about summertime and all the fun allergies that come with it ("The pop singer's fear of the pollen count"). He looked at me quizzically and asked "Madame, what are you so happy about?" I said that I was just applauding because I liked the song, not because he suffered from hayfever. I hadn't meant any offense, really. After the show, I got his autograph on a fiver (the only bit of paper I had on me at the time). He was a tad hesitant to sign it at first - something about defacing currency being an offense in England - but then gave in and even drew a squiggley mustache on the Queen herself. Oh yeah, I also once met Benjamin Orr of Cars fame at a 4th of July party when I was about 10. He gave me a autographed dollar, but being a kid, I spent it within a week. My older brother was infuriated with me. But what did I know, I was only a kid. Now a question for you all: the song "Seeing other people", I read in a review a while back that it was about an adolescent gay boy and a straight girl, but I've gone over the lyrics again and again and I still can't understand where this reviewer could get that the boy was homosexual. Am I missing something here? Or is the reviewer just off in the deep end? --Kimberly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TFertig3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 22:13:05 1997 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 6 Nov 1997 17:13:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: registers Message-ID: <971106171305_474855381@mrin39> I think I may be the youngest one on this list: 15 years of age I live in New Jersey but I used to live in London and Surrey.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjouan at xxx.com Thu Nov 6 23:38:07 1997 From: mjouan at xxx.com (Michelle Jouan) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 15:38:07 -0800 Subject: Sinister: seeing other people Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971106233807.00693ec4@mailbox.previewtravel.com> >Now a question for you all: the song "Seeing other people", I read in a >review a while back that it was about an adolescent gay boy and a straight >girl, but I've gone over the lyrics again and again and I still can't >understand where this reviewer could get that the boy was homosexual. Am I >missing something here? Or is the reviewer just off in the deep end? i can see it. it depends on who you consider the narrator and who you consider to whom the narrator is singing. >We lay on the bed there >Kissing just for practice >Could we please be objective? >Cause the other boys are queuing up behind us above, it could be a boy singing. let's say he's singing to a girl. they other boys are allegorically lining up to see both of them. >A hand over my mouth >A hand over the window >Well, if I remain passive and you just want to cuddle >Then we should be ok, and we won't get in a muddle >Cause we're seeing other people >At least that's what we say we are doing it seems that the narrator is confused about who they really like and what they are doing. >How are you feeling? >I don't think you can be dealing >With the situation very well >You take a lover for a dirty weekend, that's ok >But when it's over >You are looking at the working week in the eyes of a gigolo now is it my imagination, or is someone else singing this verse? it could be the first boy's boyfriend. (?) >You're kissing your elbow >You're kissing your reflection *implies* he's kissing another boy >But if they don't see the quality then it is apparent that >You're going to have to change >Or you're going to have to go with girls >You might be better off >At least they know where to put it the person who is singing (in the sessions case, is a girl) seems to be telling the other person that if they can't get all they need out of a relationship, maybe they should try going out with girls. but, again, it's not clear whether it's a boy singing to a boy or to a girl. [or a girl singing to a boy.] to ME, this song is about being young and confused about relationships and sexuality. there are some (seemingly deliberate) blurring of the sexuality lines in this song. that is why i love it so. it reminds me of early smiths music where things were a bit...ambiguous. but not so ambiguous that it was very difficult to understand. does that make any sense? i hope so. :) michelle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark.smith2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 00:18:05 1997 From: mark.smith2 at xxx.uk (Mark Smith) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 00:18:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song lyrics In-Reply-To: <66AE3D2564E@qmwcc7.qmw.ac.uk> Message-ID: "Laura's feeling just ideal her horoscope was nearly perfect she's thinking of something to do because she is the birthday girl" How does everyone interpret these lines - is it that her horoscope said "you will be thinking of something to do because it is your birthday", hence taking a pseudo-cynical swipe at the banality of horoscopes, which provoke ill-founded (but nonetheless valid and heart-warming) feelings of idealness? That's what I like to think anyway, but then I've been up all hours writing commentaries on French poetry.... (yes, I am another student, but I won't apologise for the fact) Mark (ooh look, a new boy on the list...) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Fri Nov 7 09:28:05 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (superbob) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 97 01:28:05 PST Subject: Sinister: dang Message-ID: hey. this message has no b&s content, so if you want to delete, do so now. i have a couple of questions about some other bands instead. and if whoever answers me would please do so privately, since there is an abundance of non b&s stuff floating around here. first question) having heard their name being brought up numerous times on this list and having heard the wedding present do a cover of one of their songs (felicity), i went out and found a greatest hits cd by orange juice. it's good (some of it). if the cd goes in chronological order, i would have to say i like the earlier, janglier stuff much better. my question is, for those of you in the know, how many albums do they have and which ones might i enjoy if i like the felicity type stuff. second question) i have also heard the weddoes do a cover of a go-betweens song (cattle and cane) and, to my knowledge, the weddoes always pick very good bands (or songs) to cover. but i have never heard the go-betweens. my question is what do they sound like and someone recommend me an album by them. last question) being in the states, i don't know much about the earlier english pop that i love so much, and i have a couple of albums by one band in particular that i know nothing about, except they were on creation. that band is the weather prophets. both things i have by them are excellent. are they still around or long gone? what can anyone tell me about them? thanks. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From craftylo at xxx.com Fri Nov 7 07:28:24 1997 From: craftylo at xxx.com (princess rachel) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:28:24 -0800 Subject: Sinister: NYC gig Message-ID: <3462C318.74EB@ix.netcom.com> i as well was at the NYC gig and the sessions taping along with my boyfriend (hi JJ) and i just wanted to share my feelings about it and i have to warn all you people that it has little to do with belle and sebastian...and at the same time it has everything to do with belle and sebastian. i am a nice jewish girl from Long Island and my family history is sort of non existant. my family going back about 100 years has lived in manhattan, brooklyn and then long island (which back in those days was vaguely suburban unlike the strip mall it is these days.) after the holocaust our family history was basically destroyed along with the small villages my great-great-great people came from, and the lower east side of NYC has become our history, the place where my family is from. point being here that one day, maybe 60 or 70 years ago my family members went to that synogogue to worship, to socialize and to raise their family with their beliefs and all that stuff. so in addition to my amazement of belle and sebastian playing there, where my forefathers once trod (oh gosh this is cheeesy) it was a very wonderful experience. for myself and JJ it was the 4th and 5th times of seeing the band (we first saw them in glasgow in march, then in London and then in NYC...) but everytime seeing them reminds me of the first time i ever heard them. i don't remember the set list. and i think that every synogogue should have disco balls in the ark. remind me to tell that to my rabbi. rachel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From craftylo at xxx.com Fri Nov 7 07:35:11 1997 From: craftylo at xxx.com (princess rachel) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:35:11 -0800 Subject: Sinister: MUGS References: <01BCEA0C.25930330@rainbow.qss.co.uk> <3461CED9.2DFC@virgin.net> Message-ID: <3462C4AF.6CB6@ix.netcom.com> i have 2 of them :P and i live in NYC. okay...my boyfriend bought them for us at the kelvingrove gig. they now hold pencils and various little colorful things for my hair. neener-neener-neener rachel (and JJ who bought them in the first place and i am taking credit) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mnol1 at xxx.au Fri Nov 7 15:34:58 1997 From: mnol1 at xxx.au (mnol1 at xxx.au) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 15:34:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: seeing other people discussion Message-ID: <4F6284127FC@cfs03.cc.monash.edu.au> Seeing Other People When I first heard this song my initial impression was, and still is, that it was about a perhaps early teen boy dealing with feelings of confused sexuality. I picture two boys, attracted to each other, and the same sex in general, but who are struggling to come to terms with this - hence they tell each other they are 'kissing just for practice' and that if 'I remain passive and you just want to cuddle...we wont get in a muddle...' Yeah, basically I think it's about what happens when this particular boy realises he is gay - how he deals with it and what sort of thoughts go through his mind at this time. I think the line 'you're gonna have to change and you're gonna have to go with girls, you'd be better off at least they know where to put it' is pretty much the definitive proof that the song has at least something to do with homosexuality - however whether my particular reading is accurate or not, I dont know, but it works for me and that's what I got out of it. Marcus ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From craftylo at xxx.com Fri Nov 7 07:43:12 1997 From: craftylo at xxx.com (princess rachel) Date: Thu, 06 Nov 1997 23:43:12 -0800 Subject: Sinister: claims to fame... Message-ID: <3462C690.21CE@ix.netcom.com> hi i'm rachel, i'm 25 years old, a brunette and i live on long island, that mall filled suburb of NYC. i'm a leo and to make money i make jewelry, so that would make me a jeweler. i live in NY and London, its a glamorous life but someone has to do it. claims to fame...i have loads. i went to high school with the long island lolita herself, amy fisher. i also have loose contacts with joel rifkin...yet another serial killer (what is it with me and people who murder???) umm...as for positive claims to fame, well lets see. i ate pickles with damon albarn in my friends kitchen once while members of radiohead stood closeby (damon prefers half sours by the way...) i watched marilyn manson dance with michael stipe while courtney love and helena christianson were having a chat. i ordered a drink next to madonna and lenny kravitz, walkled to a couch to find my sister and found here chatting with larry mullen jr from U2 about being short. interrupted by 2 beastie boys wanting to talk to my friend and ummm... oh yes...the most important thing, that ginger one out of space tried tp stay in my hotel room at the ramada during the reading festival. like he couldn't get his own hotel room! duh. its true. strange but true. rachel. the glamorous ligger. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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I've noticed a bit of a trend with the younger members of our extended family of frustration with references to bands they nothing about, especially in the 'claim to fame' department, and a fear of showing themselves up in case they get tut-tutted by more knowledgable people. I also noticed one person's notion that it was the older people who had the more esoteric taste. What I want to say is, firstly, if I've ever gone on about someone relatively unknown and alienated someone, I'm sorry. I'm an old fart by the standards of this list (but young at heart, of course, and only a few months older than Stuart Murdoch), and so it's kind of inevitable that some things I love are from before someone else's time. But I'll also say that I'm learning all the time, I certainly don't feel an authority on everything, and my taste evolves constantly, thanks to the recommendations of others, or from tapes people have done for me, or whatever, as well as things I've found myself. And I don't believe that it's entirely an age thing. I've learnt of loads of things I've missed by people several years my junior, especially things from other countries, lots of ace French, German, Japanese, American and Scaninavian pop. As Keith said, anyone who judges people younger than themselves for lack of knowledge has problems of their own. I know there are people who contribute more regularly than others, but this shouldn't turn into an old boy network. Hopefully, this can be a sharing thing, an open-minded thing, where kids of all ages can offer opinions and options without being sneered at (ugh, I sound like a hippy, but you know what I mean). Claims to fame? Nah, everybody is a star.... Night-night Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elzachar at xxx.no Fri Nov 7 10:09:50 1997 From: elzachar at xxx.no (Elisabeth Zachariassen) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:09:50 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister:Hello! fom the cold North Message-ID: <199711071009.LAA21300@online.no> Hello! A message from (probably) the only Norwegian on the list. I got my first listen to B&S when my boyfriend , who was studying in Reading, sent me a copy of "Dog on wheels", and I was flabbergasted. He is now my ex, but at least something good came out of it! My claim to fame? Well, I met P.J Harvey in a toilet once and we shared the handdrier. She was ever so cute,, but I didn't manage to say anything, that made sense anyway. I'm visisting a friend in London 23-01.11-12, so when is the big B&S meeting? Elisabeth Hi! to Rodney, I'm a Chelsea supporter myself, and happy to see them beat the ones from the cold(er) North yesterday.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Fri Nov 7 10:58:26 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 10:58:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Crimbo bliss References: <3461E599.5E5C7C70@scs.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3462F452.722E@virgin.net> Paul Forsyth wrote: > Is there definitely not a third gig? > > C ya > > Paul Definitely Not. Sorry. Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Nov 7 11:05:40 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 11:05:40 GMT Subject: Sinister: Stars of Track and Fjord In-Reply-To: <199711071009.LAA21300@online.no> References: <199711071009.LAA21300@online.no> Message-ID: <3464f5df.8827664@email.mcmail.com> On Fri, 7 Nov 1997 11:09:50 +0100 (MET), Elisabeth Zachariassen wrote: >Hello! >A message from (probably) the only Norwegian on the list. >I got my first listen to B&S when my boyfriend , who was studying in >Reading, sent me a copy of "Dog on wheels", and I was flabbergasted. He is >now my ex, but at least something good came out of it! >Elisabeth Do you realise you have the coolest name I have ever heard? I honestly wish I had my surname began with a 'Z'. Or ended with a -ski, I'm not fussy. McTaggart's pretty good, but you have to put up with people saying and 'There's been another murder' in a crap Glaswegian accent and then pissing themselves. So, just how far North are you? Never been to Norway, but my friend Anna took me to Jokkmokk in Swedish Lappland in the Summer and so we played B&S in the car north of the Arctic Circle, so hopefully there's hundreds of Saamis running round singing 'Stars of Track and Field'. And I took a cool photo of a reindeer. Mosquito hell though. Any other good 'I played in B&S on holiday in Tashkent' stories would be cool, don't you think? Sven-Olaf Tagssen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From scc644 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 13:00:34 1997 From: scc644 at xxx.uk (Soozy) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:00:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: FAO: Duke Message-ID: <16A227E3850@novell4.bham.ac.uk> *** Dear duke/Alistair, I'm not on Sinister at the moment but could you mail me, 'cause my mail prog ate your address and stuff for the tape... Got your other tape today by the way, thanks a lot. Hope to hear from you soon Kate xxx *** k x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 12:29:08 1997 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:29:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Cock: Easterhoose Message-ID: <000234BC.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> > >Easterhouse weren't from Scotland at all, they were from Manchester >IIRC. They certainly were loony lefties and did have some cracking >songs ("Get Back To Russia"). They were led by two constantly >fighting brothers and the guitar-wielding one was hailed as the next >Johnny Marr. Which he was not. >Rhys Re Easterhouse: When they split, members (I don't know how many) formed a band called Parchman who released a couple of ----------singles - notably 'Ride' which was played on Snub with one of their homemade-type videos. It's a really great guitar/dance crossover type song and it was made all the better by the fact one of them in the band wore a Celtic top! 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.230) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00021CE4; Wed, 5 Nov 97 16:21:17 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id PAA22474 for sinister-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:27:32 GMT Received: from crane.cf.ac.uk (crane.cf.ac.uk [131.251.0.45]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA22467 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:27:30 GMT Received: from NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK by crane.cf.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:19:48 +0000 Received: from NPRDCF1S/SpoolDir by NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK (Mercury 1.32); 5 Nov 97 15:28:24 GMT0BST Received: from SpoolDir by NPRDCF1S (Mercury 1.32); 5 Nov 97 15:28:21 GMT0BST From: Rhys Williams To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 15:28:12 GMT0BST Subject: RE: Sinister: Re: Cock: Easterhoose In-reply-to: <01BCE9F4.7AA99F40 at rainbow.qss.co.uk> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Message-ID: <35EA52698F at NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK> Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Rhys Williams From 95516123 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 12:33:57 1997 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 12:33:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sumpin' new Message-ID: <000234BD.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> Ross Davidson of Eastenders and now top thriller action 'High Road' and friend asked me out to Cleopatras (very tacky nightclub in Glasgow, occassionally referred to as Clatty pats). I didn't go. If ever a right decision was made... The A of Pop ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.230) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00021F14; Wed, 5 Nov 97 18:53:45 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id SAA25564 for sinister-outgoing; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:25:26 GMT Received: from dux2.tcd.ie (dux2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.12]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA25560 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:25:24 GMT Received: from [134.226.28.209] (mac09ab.4066.pclab.tcd.ie [134.226.28.209]) by dux2.tcd.ie (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA07597 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 1997 18:26:24 GMT X-Sender: timminsc at mail.tcd.ie Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 5 Nov 1997 19:26:44 +0100 To: sinister at majordomo.net From: Claire Timmins Subject: Sinister: sumpin' new Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Claire Timmins From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Fri Nov 7 13:28:34 1997 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:28:34 GMT Subject: Sinister: congregations In-Reply-To: <4F6284127FC@cfs03.cc.monash.edu.au> Message-ID: <25DB1A2E0A@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> So, then, aren't I the new boy? My little mailbox almost crashed when the glut of B&S musings hit me today. It did come as a pleasant surprise, as the last week has been all dark nights and loud noises, and Hannah might be going back to Sheffield. I haven't the time or the inclination for long, drawn out, introductions, as I'm on a caffeine sortie, but I think it's only the decent to say "hullo". Oh, go on then, I love making lists. Things I like this month include Dexy's, James Bond, The Associates, a few songs off the Pastels album, Mono (secretly), Youth-hostelling with Chris Eubank, Diane Keaton, Grooverider, Charlotte Gainsbourg, Delroy Lindo, Disco Machine Gun, Aphrodite, Sleater-Kinney, Holden Cauldfield. Most of all I like the way that, when things are going right, all points converge, like reading a book about Stephen, Aggie, and Billy Mackenzie. As for claims to fame, well, I'll save that for another time, but for now I'll reveal that I do own Tigermilk, and that David and Katrina once kept a watchful eye over a round of drinks for me at Queen Margaret's. I said "thank you" a few too many times that night. When I'm not playing with cameras I live near Manchester. Well, Wigan, but who's gonna own up to that? Oh, and I object to people saying things like "I don't really want B&S to be as big as Take that", even if they are in jest. Remember, size isn't everything. And on that platitude... Yours, Joseph ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9503594b at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 13:58:56 1997 From: 9503594b at xxx.uk (Julia Mary Brown) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 13:58:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester/Tigermilk register Message-ID: <11F84B77365@student.gla.ac.uk> Hi, I haven't tried to post to the list before, though I've been on it for awhile. My name is Julia, I'm 19 and I'm a studenti. Dull, I know. I don't have a vinyl copy of Tigermilk, and I warn everyone not to ask me why, cause I'll sob the whole tragic story to you! For the register I know of one guy who has a copy. He's called Jack and lives on Sauchiehall St. The real reason I posted is to say that I desperately want to go to the Manchester gigs, but don't want to go on my own. If you want to go with me or will let me go with you then mail me. A big group would be best for obvious, though crap, reasons (not that I want to seem paranoid or implicate anyone on the list as a psycho!! ) as I think someone else wrote too. I'll be travelling from Glasgow or possibly Aberdeen. I don't know anyone in Manchester, and I don't have a car so it's public transport and a hostel (are they open this time of year?) I suppose. I'm bad at organising, but will try if I have to. Basically if anyone is organising to go as a group, then please count me. I hpoe this garbbled message doesn't put you off contacting me. And my claim to fame is I've done my laundry standing next to Stuart Murdoch. But I didn't dare speak to him - I know, I'm a wimp. A 3000 word essay for Monday becons, Love Julia xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinystar at xxx.com Fri Nov 7 14:06:15 1997 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:06:15 -0400 Subject: Sinister: i am feeling sinister Message-ID: Hi, I'm new here and only have "If You're Feeling Sinister", which I love. I live in Toronto, Canada, so it's impossible to find any eps at all, I was going to order them from Parasol but I'm making a trip to Boston in a while, so I'll just get them then. I recognise some names from the indiepop list on here. claim to fame: Talking to Tanya Donelly for 20 minutes in her tour bus when she had pneumonia (just 2 weeks ago!), and having her smile at me from the stage and taking lots of pictures. about me: (which isn't as interesting as one might think) I'm 18, and in my last year of highschool, since Ontario has 5 years of it. I like Can and Wire and Pavement and Galaxie 500 and Pram and Mogwai and B+S (obviously) and lots others, but I won't bore you with a list. I play guitar, but it seems like everyone does. I like hockey and photography, I just bought a new camera and have yet to test it out. And I'm flying to Boston in about 10 days! I've never been before, so this is a real treat. I'm a salesgirl at Eaton's, which is an almost upscale Canadian department store. I work in Children's Wear, so if anyone needs to know about kids shoes, strollers, carseats or clothes, just ask me. I know far too much. truly, jessica tinystar at worldy.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Fri Nov 7 14:59:44 1997 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 09:59:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: non-recorded songs Message-ID: <01BCEB63.E10DD100@n150.natureny.com> Hello! I have a question for the ranks in the UK...being in the US, I don't get to hear the radio sessions and whatnot where you have heard the songs unavailable in record-form (or CD for that matter). I'm wondering how many songs are in B&S' repertoire that aren't on any of the releases? I've seen "Modern Rock Song" mentioned, as well as a few others. Can a kind soul send a list of all of them? I saw them here in NYC in Sept. (the Sessions and the Sunday night show), and fell instantly in love with both "Sleep the Clock Around" and "Roller Coaster..." Thanks! Paige p.s. As for claims to fame....I told Mary Lou Lord she had great shoes on once and she looked at me like I had three heads and I saw Neutral Milk Hotel & Olivia Tremor Control in Boston with Rivers Cuomo from Weezer, who is so tiny, I wanted to feed him and take care of him and keep him warm like a mother bird. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 14:51:49 1997 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:51:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sorry claim to fame Message-ID: <59C7600ED4@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Belle and Sebastain. right, now that this is relevant I once kissed the belly button of a girl who got off with Crispin (or whatever) from the long pigs. and the best man and me mam and dad wedding was one of gallagher and lyle. not the one who wrties for tina turner now... someone was ashamed to come from wigan. m,y flatmate comes from there and hes is ashamed too. but he was tought by the mum of Simon Jones from the Verve... bye neil -------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Fri Nov 7 15:47:59 1997 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:47:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Seeing Other People Message-ID: <01BCEB6A.9F990E40@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> It's interesting that people mention the idea of different voices singing "seeing other people" considering that in the sessions it's sung by three different members: Stevie, Isobel, and Stuart. Perhaps this was intentional and I was just too dumb to notice. Claims to fame: Picture of me in Tuesdays Boston Globe. Subject I won't mention but fellow listy Paul Dean was there too. B&S related: Surely first DJ to play B&S in Boston area. Back last December I played State I'm In on my old radio show Sugar Buzz (WMBR Cambridge) in my "Best of '96" show. (Similar to Peels festive 50.) I know I know ZBC could have played B&S first but I doubt it because they don't have Tigermilk. Interviewed Stuart M. and Chris in first issue of my fanzine (Candy Factory). Perhaps first American interview of Stuart. (He was rather enigmatic in the interview though, but perhaps my questions were a bit annoying.) Met Chris and the Stuarts at the taping. Nice meeting although I felt stupid and couldn't figure anything to say. Met Sarah too and she had nice things to say about Candy Factory. Was supposed to give tour of Boston but you know the story of the gigs... Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 16:53:23 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:53:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Everything Message-ID: <199711071653.QAA21365@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Rodney said: >Football: What is it with B&S and internet football fans? This surely rides >wholly against what one might expect the B&S fan stereotype to be. Anyway I'm >a Chelsea fan of 22 years standing (so no gloryhunting jibes) and am a >member of the mailing list. So there. Oh, and I read somewhere that supporting >a lower-league club was the football equivalent of being an indie-fan. Any >comments you Grecians or Hornets? I tend to hold the rather blinkered view that I watch Exeter because I love them, and I listen to Belle And Sebastian because I love them. B&S tend to be a lot more beautiful, but ECFC certainly have that air of the shambolic when they play live:-). I have heard it said that the reason we support lower division clubs is because we revel in the failure. If that is true (and I'm sure it is for some) then it tends to spookily echo the feelings of those who want their favourite indie band to stay their own little secret. Exeter are going to win the FA Cup this year, anyway;-). And B&S will have a number one LP. And the world will turn overnight into a big blue orange (who said that?). Perhaps we footy lovers hould take this off-list? One more thing on this subject. Exeter are defensively naive. Are B&S aggressively naive?! >Wonderful gig, evoking such nostalgia for *the* summer of POP anarchy. I'd >give anything to get a copy of the video and perhaps catch a glimpse of my 19 >year-old self swathed in youthful cool and an uber-smart flowery anorak... POP anarchy...now there's a phrase I haven't heard in years, fair sent a little aged shiver down my spine. Don't I sound like an old codger? But yeah, '86-87, Razorcuts, (hooray!) Chesterfields (boo), McCarthy, Talulah Gosh, Jasmine Minks, wedding Present, Wolfhounds, The Claim, Emily, The Orchids and more, all at Exeter Arts Centre in a relatively short space of time. It seemed like a maddeningly slow trickle then, but looking back, I feel so lucky. Even if we had to arrange some of those gigs ourselves. If nothing's happening, make it happen, and all that. >Claims to Fame: Promoting the first McCarthy gig in the North-East of >England How about singing in tthe support band for the first McCarthy gig in the South-West of England? Talulah Gosh? Jasmine Minks? Come back! I haven't told you the one about..... 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 21:56:56 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 16:56:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Manchester again!!! Message-ID: I know the dates but where are B+S playing in Manchester. In an earlier email it was stated that ticket details would be revealed next week. Can we have a day please so I can camp infront of my computer. Also... out of curiosity Approx. how many people are on this mailing list?, because I think these alone will fill the gigs. Rich (new but not that new) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Fri Nov 7 17:01:51 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 18:01:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Interview extracts References: <11F84B77365@student.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3463497F.B4BAC6E8@colon.net.> Julia Mary Brown wrote: > And my claim to fame is I've done my laundry standing next > to Stuart > Murdoch. But I didn't dare speak to him - I know, I'm a > wimp. > A 3000 word essay for Monday becons, About Stuart Murdoch's laundry? One can only hope so. You should have talked to him. I bet he doesn't bite. Laundry is a great leveller. Just how unpleasant can you be when you know that your underpants are circling around in front of everyone's eyes? What colour were they? While we wait for the essay, here's a bit more insubstantial fluff from that interview: "I'll tell you that we like the Smiths, but we don't want to be like them. There are seven of us in the group and we have very diverse tastes that might surprise you. Three of us love The Clash, and others like World Music. Chris even hates The Smiths. We might be similar to them in that we use concepts that are there, in the street, within anybody's reach. We take them and then we bring them out from deep down inside us. Lots of the stories on the record come from before the group was formed, short stories that Stuart wrote, and that he liked to call "Belle and Sebastian". Dylan in the Movies.... "The story is about a boy who goes for a walk in the park at night and is scared in case anybody comes up from behind and grabs him. That's why it says "don't look back", which is also a film about Bob Dylan." "As far as we're concerned there's no war with Melody Maker, although we don't know if they're at war with us. We can't take the music press business in Britain seriously, or the critics. Or believe them, seeing as one of concerts was called "horrific" by the Melody Maker and "brilliant" by the NME. And it was the same concert." There, that's about it. Can't vouch for its authenticity, but that's a quick summary of what's in the article. Badly translated, but I don't suppose anyone's unduly worried. It's not as if it's one of the novels of Laurent Jalabert, is it? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Fri Nov 7 18:43:16 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 18:43:16 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Manchester again!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Richard Banner wrote: > Also... out of curiosity > Approx. how many people are on this mailing list?, because I think > these alone will fill the gigs. 327 - you can find out from the WWW page. Think Oon may have trouble making it from Thailand though. Also worth saying I suppose that the Tigermilk register is online as is the recent "mishearings" thread which tickled me a little. And the comments section will now work with any browser - sorry if that caused problems before. Please use it to tell me what you think of the list, frequency of digests etc. so I can keep trying to reflect majority opinion and not just be a rotten old git. Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 18:51:24 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 18:51:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Interview extracts References: <11F84B77365@student.gla.ac.uk> <3463497F.B4BAC6E8@colon.net.> Message-ID: <3463632C.B2DB6071@mail.zynet.co.uk> > It's not as if it's one of the novels of Laurent > Jalabert, > is it? you mean laurent the one time ace sprinter who crashed so dreadfully when a gendarme decided he wanted an action shot of a stage finish in the tour de france and got more action than i think he bargained for? didn't realise he had written a novel.. is it full of witty stories about life in the peloton? And is it in the style of the Ink Polaroids? Speaking of which, i just put some new ink polaroids by myself into the latest living room booklet... which is of no interest to anyone of course, even less so since none of you will probably ever see the booklet, unless you live in exeter or i send you one. it has been known to happen. oh yeah, and they'll be on the living room website eventually... Is that enough of a tangential b&s reference? Ooops, thought not ;-( keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjm97 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 19:17:16 1997 From: mjm97 at xxx.uk (MATTHEW JON MILLER) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 19:17:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Lazy Line Painter Jane Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19971107191716.00925a40@pophost.aber.ac.uk> Hi, Well I'm new here too - there's so many of us now. I'm a student at Aberystwyth ( on the welsh coast) and studying for an Msc in information and library studies. Exciting stuff. Just thought I would go on record as saying that 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' is a fabulous song and Monica Queen (of Thrum fame who I saw live supporting Grant lee Buffalo at Exeter Uni a few years ago now) has a truly amazing voice. Hope that's not a controversial opinion. Does anybody know if B&S will ever go anywhere near Aber in Wales or Exeter in Devon? Well, I can always hope. Apart from B&S other musical things I love are Stina Nordenstam, The Velvet Underground, Sinead O'connor, Galaxie 500, The Auteurs, Mazzy Star, My Bloody Valentine, The Beatles and lots of other stuff. That's probably enough for now. Cheerie-bye, Mat. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nioannidis at xxx.gr Fri Nov 7 20:27:43 1997 From: nioannidis at xxx.gr (Nicholas Ioannidis) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 22:27:43 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Hello from the warm south! References: <199711071009.LAA21300@online.no> Message-ID: <346379BF.56B9A903@ath.forthnet.gr> > Hello! > A message from (probably) the only Norwegian on the list. > I got my first listen to B&S when my boyfriend , who was studying in > Reading, sent me a copy of "Dog on wheels", and I was flabbergasted. He is > now my ex, but at least something good came out of it! > Well now, why not take a trip from way up North to way down South. I think I'm probably in the warmest place right now (Greece) and one of the two (hello Xristos) Greek members of the list. A lot of noise is made about B&S the past months in Athens and everybody seems to be buying the singles (I hope that they are playing them as well). Maybe we can get the band to come down here but for the time being Strangelove are playing here on Wednesday. If anyone is faintly interested in Greek PoP let me know! Bye for now, Nicholas P.S. Elizabeth you last name in Greek means SUGAR, lovely!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Sat Nov 8 01:56:40 1997 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 11:56:40 +1000 Subject: Sinister: vital statistics Message-ID: <3463C6D8.6311@gil.com.au> mornin' all, i am saving my pennies cos i'm going to be having a little holiday soon... it a working holiday (so not so many pennies needing to be saved) and i have to tell the people finding me jobs where i'd like to go. since so many of you kids live in the uk - would it be possible (to mail me PRIVATELY) and tell me where it'd be nice to live for a bit? .... i'm heading over in march/april 1998. oh, and this fits in nicely with the mailing list register and also if anyone is remotely interested in what i'll be travelling 1/2 way across the world to do. i'm 24 and i'm a dietitian/ nutritionist and i live in brisbane, australia (but not for much longer). oh, some b&s content'd be nice um, i hope they'll be playing while i'm there. see what you can do, eh katrina? :) toodle pip shelley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jesandy at xxx.edu Sat Nov 8 05:59:29 1997 From: jesandy at xxx.edu (Jennifer ) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 00:59:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: greetings! Message-ID: <199711080558.AAA20393@cayman.ucs.indiana.edu> hello all you nice people, i am new here too and i thought i'd introduce myself. it's only been a week since i bought if you're feeling sinister but i am in love with belle and possibly sebastian too. i was quite tired and a bit delirious last night and that's how i ended up subscribing to this list and also ordering a tshirt that i can't afford but can't wait to get. i am 18, in college in america, indiana to be exact, not exactly the cultural hub of the world. this unfortunately means that i don't have any singles or tigermilk of course but i will soon obtain at least the singles. they do not play good music on the radio here, period, so i heard about b&s from friends. hmm... what else to say... i like lots of british music, i'm afraid i'm a bit cliche there, i'm not very good at discovering obscure bands (at least good ones) but i try, so any suggestions would be appreciated! :) i like cheesecake and rainy thursdays and my cat. i don't like my roommate or indiana in general. my claim to fame... well i met tori amos, she was incredibly small and lovely and i shook her hand and i glowed for days. apart from that, nothing much because i am stuck here in bloomington but i love this list already, so nice to meet all you beautiful people! jennifer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From timminsc at xxx.ie Sat Nov 8 16:28:19 1997 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 16:28:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: finding records and things. Message-ID: Well I'll have you know tht it has been a exciting week for the kids in Ireland's fair city. Firstly I got an email from Stuart D saying that they would love to try and play over here. Then, I went into Hmv who checked the computer system and this time info on B&S appeared so they ordered a copy of 3..6..9 for me. Phew. Supposedly the distribution over here is very low. Then, I went into Comet records and there staring me in the face was IYFS, so for nostalgic reasons I had a look at it. To my surprise tucked away behind it was the 12" of 3..6..9. Wow! Unfortunatley purchase of the 12" wouldn't have been beneficial due to fact I would probably have to wait until to Xmas so I could play in on my record player. Also, in the event guide (free newspaper stylee thing, like The List but so much smaller and cheaper) there was an interview with Teenage Fanclub. The reporters talks of the great bands from Glasgow: The fanclub, Pastels, Primal Scream and Belle and Sebastian. Then whoever he speaks to from the fanc' refers to B&S as an example of the best music to come out of the city. Not bad for a bit of publicity. Hopefully this will help as nobody here really seems to know them. Well I just thought that I would enlighten everyone on the bands progress in other european countries. Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jtakagi at xxx.com Sat Nov 8 18:50:44 1997 From: jtakagi at xxx.com (Jonathan Takagi) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 10:50:44 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Paris Show References: Message-ID: <3464B484.68D@millennianet.com> Does anyone know if the B&S show in Paris is confirmed or not? Their name has been on some ads and not others, although it seems like they'll be the guests at one of the Paris shows, but not the other ones on the tour (Lille, Strasbourg etc.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From suchgranddesigns at xxx.com Sat Nov 8 19:24:15 1997 From: suchgranddesigns at xxx.com (jillian lin) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 14:24:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: more greetings! Message-ID: <19971108.142416.3990.0.SuchGrandDesigns@juno.com> hallo! i'm yet another newbie and i thought i'd have a go as well with this posting of details business. erm, i'm 18, living in amerika (new jersey to be precise. it's the armpit of the nation - some might say the armpit of society!). i am a student and dreaming of getting away from here [i'm dying] and i am applying to uni right now so hopefully that will be the first step. no one i know has ever heard of belle and sebastian. usually when i mention it, people think it is some new disney venture (the horror!). one boy thought i was talking about the actual french children's programme but that's all. no tigermilk, so sad... another source of anguish stems from the fact that i missed the angel orasanz shows... i tried, really i did, but it was sold out before i ever found out about it and the bloke just kept stressing the strictly limited amount of space they had no matter how much i cried and begged. :( i won't tell you how lovely B&S are, you're on the list, you know that. i also love gene (i do a fanzine for them, and i guess my claim to fame would be that i met them and interviewed martin and matt). erm, i am partial to indiepop, art, and books, and harry hill makes me laugh although i did only see him on amerik telly once. i try not to watch amerik telly but i am a shameless fan of eastenders and quite enjoyed brittas empire when they had it on here... and er... oh dear, this seems like too much rambling from me already. ok, then. you all sound beautiful and its nice to meet you. :) jillian. xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Nov 8 19:47:53 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 19:47:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S gigs. I'm HAPPY!!!!!! Message-ID: BELLE AND SEBASTIAN GIGS IN MANCHESTER IN DECEMBER!!!!! Is everybody fully appreciating how good this is!!! Any of you lot coming then??? Woo-hooo! (Sarah dances round the room, while simulaneously managing to type) wayhey! And this is very good, because I'm only a woohoo person when I am VERY happy! B&S gigs !!!! On a more practical note...has anyone sorted out where they're staying? AND...... WHATS EVERYONE GOING TO WEAR!!!!!!!! lovehearts and stars and CRISIS!!! Sarah ********************************* FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From zulu at xxx.uk Sat Nov 8 20:48:06 1997 From: zulu at xxx.uk (zulu) Date: Sat, 08 Nov 1997 20:48:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Wow! Message-ID: <3464D006.30D8@abdn.ac.uk> Wow, you will never believe this. A couple of days ago I was in the study room in my halls, pretending to work, and we started talking about old cartoon series we loved. This girl jane said she loved the belle and sebastian cartoon, and I mentioned that there was a band with the same name who I was really into. Then this other girl, Emily, siad she new the singer, and i said "who, stuart?" she said, "no, isobel" I was speachless. It turns out they met playing for some scottish youth orchestra, and she also plays strings for the delgados, Wow! Hello everybody, by the way, this is my first posting, ive been kind of lurking for a couple of weeks, waiting for the right moment to burst into your lives, not bad for a start, eh? My name's colin campbell(no relation, I think?)I'm 18, from Edinburgh, and pretending to study medicine in Aberdeen. thanks for listening colin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From starfleet at xxx.uk Sat Nov 8 21:31:25 1997 From: starfleet at xxx.uk (STARFLEET) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 21:31:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jukeboxes and things Message-ID: I haven't posted anything here for ages so here's an intro bit - I'm 29, no vinyl copy of Tigermilk and I'm a concert promoter who'd like to do B&S in St John's Church in Wolverhampton but haven't heard a sausage back from Jeepster yet about whether they'd want to work with me or not. I just got around to putting 3 6 9 on my jukebox and it sounds great. Dog On Wheels is on there too but LLPJ was useless on 7" because it revolved at 33 and my jukebox goes at the traditional 45rpm. Maybe bands should think about that for the 0.001% of fans who have old seventies jukeboxes! At first I used to be quite concerned at cutting massive holes in my records so they'd fit but now I reckon the bands would be proud to be on there - keeping vinyl alive and all that. I've got most of my record collection twice now - first on CD (usually promos coz I'm a lucky git to be working in the industry) and then I go out and buy it on 7" for the jukebox. I'm not sure about a claim to fame. Last year I booked Thrum (Monica Queen's band) for my Wolvestock Festival which is a bit B&S related. I've obviously met all the bands I've worked with....Spiritualized at the Albert Hall was probably the best thing I've done. My cousin is in Starlight Express and Kim Wilde went to her wedding (but I didn't). OK, I've rambled - I'm off Mark (not Starfleet) http://www.avnet.co.uk/mdawson/starfleet ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From starfleet at xxx.uk Sat Nov 8 21:31:25 1997 From: starfleet at xxx.uk (STARFLEET) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 21:31:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs Message-ID: So, are they at the Town Hall then? I've been there before - the ceiling is a bit high so it's quite boomy but it's a lovely building. I saw Fretblanket there as part on one of those In The City type things. Only about 50 people showed up (the hall would easily hold 900) and Steve Lamacq stood in the middle of the floor on his own and danced like a gawky schoolkid at his first Indie Disco! I laughed (regardless of how cruel that sounds!) Apologies if this comes after the official announcement as I'm a digestive type person. Mark (not Starfleet) http://www.avnet.co.uk/mdawson/starfleet ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Sun Nov 9 01:00:34 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 23:00:34 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #62 Message-ID: <02003483107948@secrel.com.br> you wrote: >From: MATTHEW JON MILLER >Subject: Sinister: Lazy Line Painter Jane >Just thought I would go on record as saying that 'Lazy Line Painter Jane' >is a fabulous song and Monica Queen (of Thrum fame who I saw live >supporting Grant lee Buffalo at Exeter Uni a few years ago now) has a truly >amazing voice. I don't want to be rude ! but WHAT ??????????????? I can be able to think in 4 or 5 better singers.... * Rachel : Slowdive/Mojave 3 * Isabel Monteiro : Drugstore * Pam Berry : Glo-worm and some others * Laetitia : Stereolab * That girl out of Galaxie 500 ....(i don't remember her name) I try to think about LLPJ with one of these singers instead Monica Queen and in my dreams the song is BETTER . Hope that's not a controversial opinion. well.... >Apart from B&S other musical things I love are Stina Nordenstam, The Velvet >Underground, Sinead O'connor, Galaxie 500, The Auteurs, Mazzy Star, My >Bloody Valentine, The Beatles and lots of other stuff. That's probably >enough for now. >Cheerie-bye, >Mat. Do you like Mojave 3 ? Love, Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Sun Nov 9 08:39:54 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 97 08:39:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs References: Message-ID: <971109083954.n0004887.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 08 Nov 97, STARFLEET wrote... >So, are they at the Town Hall then? I'll be there, and a tenner to anyone who'll climb up and pop the inflatable Santa Claus. Susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 9 10:27:35 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Three hundred and one Iranian whelk-hunters and their pet sharks - you fat git!) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:27:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #62 In-Reply-To: <02003483107948@secrel.com.br> Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Nov 1997, Ivo A P Escossia wrote: > I can be able to think in 4 or 5 better singers.... > * That girl out of Galaxie 500 ....(i don't remember her name) Naomi Yang, I think, now in Magic Hour/Damon and Naomi > > I try to think about LLPJ with one of these singers instead Monica Queen and > in my dreams the song is BETTER . Actually I quite like Monica Queen's voice in LLPJ, though only in a strange sort of way; can't really describe exactly how, there's just something about it that I like... > Hope that's not a controversial opinion. > > > well.... > seems to be, doesn't it? > > Do you like Mojave 3 ? Me, I love Mojave 3 - saw them live with Luna a couple of years back. Does anyone know whether they have any new stuff out after 'Ask me tomorrow', 'cos that was such a lovely album... Love, Rob xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 9 10:34:18 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (***Rob B*** :)) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 10:34:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: London meetup Message-ID: Hi everyone So, is the London meet-up going ahead? I've not really been concentrating on the mailing list over the last few days, so I might have missed something vital. When are tickets going to be available for Manchester, 'cos I don't want to miss the boat this time - I simply must see B&S live soon, or I will die. On a more practical note, people have been talking about trying to find places to stay - hostels etc? Any luck? I've got absolutely no idea what I'm going to do about that, so if anyone has any great ideas, please mail me. :) Ah well, things to do... Rob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elawes at xxx.uk Sun Nov 9 21:21:12 1997 From: elawes at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Lawes) Date: Sun, 09 Nov 97 13:21:12 PST Subject: Sinister: B&S gigs. I'm HAPPY!!!!!! In-Reply-To: References: Conversation with last message Message-ID: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE can someone repeat the Manchester gig information? I was off list for a week and missed it. I am a desperate person. Thanks, Liz :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From adamn at xxx.com Sun Nov 9 16:41:06 1997 From: adamn at xxx.com (adamn) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 11:41:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: lazy line 12"? Message-ID: <199711091639.LAA03226@mail.maine.rr.com> hi, i was wondering if anyone on this list knew of one mail order place, perferabbly in the usa, that still is selling the lazy line painter jane on 12" format? and the Dog on wheels 12" for that matter as well? i've already tried Ajax and they are clean out... anyways thanks for your lovely time, >./adamn ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ooon at xxx.th Sun Nov 9 17:29:52 1997 From: ooon at xxx.th (ooon) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 00:29:52 +0700 Subject: Sinister: Hello From the Warm South/Manchester gigs Message-ID: <3465F310.4A40@samart.co.th> your Manchester planning got me all green! :) >327 - you can find out from the WWW page. Think Oon may have >trouble making it from Thailand though.... They‘re worth the trouble of course :) I’m not at all fond of flying...but if it takes me to see them, I won’t complain. The only barrier between me and Manchester this time is my boss really. I can’t imagine coming up to her and say ‘ boss, can I have a week off. I’m going to England to see Belle&Sebastian’ .... she would probably punch me. I’m entitled to a vacation after next June tho. So, see you all next summer! i assume they will do some tour on summer won't they? >Well now. why not take a trip from way up Northe >to way down South. I think I’m probably in the >warmest place right now (Greece) ...... Sorry Nicholas :) talking about warmest place, I don’t think anyone can beat me on that. We’re actually in winter season right now. but it’s still just a liitle below 30 celcius at night. :) happy winter everyone! oon xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrewn at xxx.edu Sun Nov 9 21:03:01 1997 From: andrewn at xxx.edu (Andrew Hung Nguyen) Date: Sun, 9 Nov 1997 13:03:01 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: sorry, Sarah stuff again Message-ID: I have a few questions about the band Heavenly! Were they on the Sarah label? and does anyone know about the future of the band? because last thing I have from them is "Operation Heavenly." Andrew :-) (-: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Nov 10 09:33:06 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 09:33:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Interview extracts Message-ID: <01BCEDBB.A6E5DA40@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Dylan in the Movies.... "The story is about a boy who goes for a walk in the park at night and is scared in case anybody comes up from behind and grabs him. [Keith Watson] Comes up from behind and "grabbed". This'll be Kelvingrove park eh! Is that what they're calling it now? That's why it says "don't look back", which is also a film about Bob Dylan." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mllx7dl2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 10 12:17:52 1997 From: mllx7dl2 at xxx.uk (Darren Lee) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 12:17:52 BST Subject: Sinister: message from a sickly child! Message-ID: HI! I don't really know how this list works but it sounds like a good idea. Just wondering when the dates of the Manchester gigs are exactly? If any B&S fans want to EMail me and share experiences please write to Darren.Lee at stud.man.ac.uk cheers! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Mon Nov 10 15:45:28 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:45:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Eeyore Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971110154528.0068af40@student.let.uva.nl> At 03:31 AM 11/6/97 -0500, you wrote: >Eeyore wrote: >> Eeyore's a girl.... > >I thought Eeyore was a blue donkey who didn't like anything. >I always thought he was a boy donkey :) > >Aadam Yeah, Eeyore was a blue donkey who didn't like anything. He was also a great existentialist. But I'm a girl, and my real name is Ninette. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Mon Nov 10 16:10:54 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:10:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister:Kelvingrove and single review References: <01BCEDBB.A6E5DA40@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <3467320D.E85FB1B6@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > Dylan in the Movies.... > > "The story is about a boy who goes for a walk in the park > at > night and is scared in case anybody comes up from behind > and > grabs him. > [Keith Watson] > Comes up from behind and "grabbed". This'll be Kelvingrove > park eh! Is that what they're calling it now? > > That's why it says "don't look back", which is > also a film about Bob Dylan." > Yes, Kelvigrove Park has always been a bit of a dodgy area, including the road that runs through it. I once had an eventful stroll along there at around about twilight time. First of all I noticed a man enthusiastically cleaning his gearstick in a parked car (didn't know such things happened at the time), and then a bit further along a man who looked like a great big mutant version of Chris Geddes tried to block my path. I think he was going to "grab" me, but I risked life and limb by running out into the road, thus preserving my sanctiity for another day. Shall I type in the last B&S related bit from my crappy magazine? Don't all shout at once - here it is: Belle and Sebastian - Lazy Line Painter Jane What is the hyperexpressive Monica Queen doing straddling a song by Belle and Sebastian? Putting the most well-scrubbed fans of the neat and tidy Glasgow combo out of socket, that's what. The result (the EP's title track) is like an unnatural meeting between Texas, Tarnation, and a little monkey with a new organ. The three other songs are no better than those on Dog on Wheels, the previous EP, no, there's no The State I Am In nor blatant tributes to Love, bbut a track like A Century of Elvis - spoken word and cotton backing vocals- makes it obligatory to give them a vote of confidence and close your eyes and wish that If You're Feeling Sinister doesn't remain just a pretty seasonal curiosity. By Carlos Calvo (which means Charles Baldy) There, that's a bit more controversial, isn't it? I still haven't heard the song in question, so I can't really comment. But I'm all for Monica Queen. Peter PS: It's a bit quiet isn't it? Is it a bank holiday or something? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stip at xxx.uk Mon Nov 10 16:51:26 1997 From: Stip at xxx.uk (Stip / Blue Music) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 16:51:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bored and Shellfish Message-ID: So here I am, sat desperately trying to think of ways to avoid my surrender to the call of labour. I can't even partake in my usual afternoon recreation of playing keepie-uppies with my beachball because I'm wearing shoes today rather than trainers, and by God they make it difficult. That'll teach me. Anyway, I thought I might tell you some of my favourite places to listen to Belle and Sebastian. On buses and trains, especially on long journeys, especially when it's raining. Loads of time to lose yourself without (m)any distractions. There's a pub in Stirling, and the manager always plays your CDs if you ask very nicely. They play the music really loud and it's brilliant to see everyone's reactions when IFYS comes on. Someone always asks what it is. This is the same pub where I witnessed an old guy engaged in a most bizarre activity with a bottle of Becks. It occurred to me as only mildly strange that he had bought two beers at once when he was evidently alone, but I never thought any more about it. Until, that is, he started talking to the brown paper bag he had was unwrapping. Not the usual drunken ramblings and profanity, I hasten to add - his tones were affectionate as he gazed lovingly into the bag. He then took one of the aforementioned refreshments and proceeded to pour it gently into his paper package, encouraging its contents to 'drink up'. After a bottle of beer each (his brown paper 'friend' was by this time sodden, and beer was spilling generously over the table) the guy decided it was time time to reveal the contents of the saturated bag. So he pulls out these two crabs. They were alive, I swear, and he spent the best part of the next hour drinking with his pincered companions, every so often tipping the beer slightly so they could have another drink. Sorry I kind of digressed there. I'll shut up for a while now, promise. Love Nicola xx -- Nicola M Stip / Blue Music www.stip.demon.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hiv95352 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 10 17:15:34 1997 From: hiv95352 at xxx.uk (Caz) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:15:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: stuff Message-ID: <34674136.1F85@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> >By the way, and I hope nobody minds me mentioning this, but the >programme >I was working on was called The Adam and Joe Show and the second >series >returns on November 22nd 11.00pm on Channel 4. Its really funny and >Adam >likes Belle and Sebastian, especially 'Expectations' and puts it on all >his compilation tapes. ooh, cool. I loved that programme. I found an episode on tape the other week (the one with Neil Hannon in the Vinyl Justice bit) and it was even better than i remembered. >>the internet movie database will let you search for >>birthdates. 16th january is given by: >> >>http://us.imdb.com/M/on-this-day?day=16&month=January >> >>and turns up kate moss, john carpenter (and about 50 or so >>others). it'll also show you deaths and marriages and films >>that opened: the apartment (one of my favourite films) >>opened (albeit in sweden) on your birthday in 1961. >> >>andy >>sat here, bored, waiting for email... > >I've just done that for my birthday 24/ 5 / 77 and it turns up >libby kennedy from neighbours and eric cantona Least it was people you'd heard off...the 2 andy mentioned were the only 2 on my list i'd ever heard of, just about. Although ginger rogers did get married. >I've just done 3/1/79 and got nothing. Luckily,I know who I share a >birthday with. Unfortunately,it's Michael Schumacher. Do not slag. The bloke is the best driver F1's seen in a long time. > They had a song >called Whistling in the Dark, about the miners' strike, so did They Might be giants, but thats entirely beside the point. In fact my whole message is alarmingly off topic. Must fix this. In a minute...i've got a review from a magazine called Magnet but i refuse to post it until i've read all the digests i've got, in case someone else has. So. Just be patient. >3) i'm lovely friends with a)Chris Nettleton in the Nubiles. and b) ~>with David Ryder Prangly from Rachel Stamp (anyone ever heard of >either?) Christ, my flatmate's a MAD Rachel Stamp fan ever since she saw them at T in the Park in the summer... don't like them too much myself. But his hair is cool... >WOW!!!!!! What a fantastic idea. Belle & Sebstain in a cathedral!!!!!!! >It >would sound amazing. just acquired a playstation and thanks to the funky audio CD options i can now find out what B&S sounded like in a church. And the answer is...shit. But that might just be the playstation. Right. Have now trawled through all the digests for the past week (see what happens when you get ill?) and haven't seen the review. So i might as well post it :) from Magnet magazine sept/oct 97 Belle And Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister those in the know swear by Belle And Sebastian, a soft-spoken seven-piece combo from Glasgow. Given the band's favorable notices in the U.K and U.S. press and its ascent on the college music charts, cynics might expect the worst. Well, just forget all that - If You're Feeling Sinister is a clever, timeless record to get enthusiastic over. Starting with any number of reference points (Bob Geldof, Lou Reed and Ray Davies), Belle And Sebastian constructs meditative yet frisky soft-pop numbers punctuated by swells of cello, violin, sax and piano. "Seeing Other People," which features snappy piano overtones that ofcould have been played by Schroeder in Peanuts, demonstrates singer/ songwriter Stuart Murdoch's wit and nostalgia: "We lay on the bed there/ Kissing just for practice/ Could we please be objective/ Case the other boys are queuing up behind us." There's too much Morrissey for comfort in the not-as-melancholy-as-it-sounds "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying" which finds Murdoch claiming "Nobody writes them like they used to/ So it may as well be me." Expect many more conversations throughout 1997, particulrly when music types compose their year-end top-10 lists. John Elasser So there you go. it sounds very familiar...never mind. love and stuff caz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 10 17:14:15 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:14:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Paris Show References: <3464B484.68D@millennianet.com> Message-ID: <346740E7.1652@virgin.net> Jonathan Takagi wrote: > > Does anyone know if the B&S show in Paris is confirmed or not? > Their name has been on some ads and not others, although it seems > like they'll be the guests at one of the Paris shows, but not the > other ones on the tour (Lille, Strasbourg etc.) The Paris show was cancelled quite sometime ago, and B&S will not play Europe until at least March next year to co-incide with the promotion of the 3rd LP. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 10 17:14:20 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:14:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: GIGS ! References: Message-ID: <346740EC.55C3@virgin.net> Tim Jones wrote: > > Have you any idea when or where tickets are going on sale yet ? Oh, > and how > much ? To everyone who has mailed the list and Jeepster re the Manchester gigs: Ticket prices and outlets will be divulged later this week, as we are organising a mailout that both the internet & snail mailing list will get simultaeneously. I am hoping that the announcement will be Thursday or Friday of this week. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Mon Nov 10 17:35:27 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 17:35:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk register: another one! References: <34674136.1F85@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <346745DF.3D18825E@mail.zynet.co.uk> here's news of another copy of the great TM... owner: Fergus (dunno second name, sorry...) situation: somewhere in exeter, devon, engerland. he works in waterstones bookshop and is an all round good bloke with excellent taste in many things. wonders if maybe belle & sebastian would like to come and play at the Living Room ( http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/living_room/ ). i suggested it was unlikely, and i didn't think we could cope with the crowds of believers. but we can live in hope i guess. cheerio. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pym0491b at xxx.uk Mon Nov 10 21:19:22 1997 From: pym0491b at xxx.uk (leo sanrio) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:19:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER: Britain's luckiest guy. Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971110211922.0068aa5c@194.238.31.100> Because he hasn't got round to it yet and is probably too shy too divulge the information, let me tell you all that NICK FORGACS of London England owns 2 copies of Tigermilk and is about to buy a third. One has never left the sleeve it was purchased in. Take a bow Nick! Neither are for sale. xxxxxxx will 'i know what people say, im a heartbreaker, thats just my way.' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Tue Nov 11 02:57:56 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 10 Nov 1997 21:57:56 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER: Britain's luckiest guy. Message-ID: <971110215755_-692586069@mrin41.mail.aol.com> I heard a conversation in a CD shop recently to the effect that a radio station in Danbury CT, USA had a vinyl copy of Tigermilk -- when this woman went in to tape it, it was missing from where it had been the week before. So we can assume there is a person of dubious honesty with a copy somewhere in Connecticut. That same CD shop had 3 copies of Tigermilk, but had no idea who B&S were nor what it sounded like as they had never played it (because then it has to go into the "used" bin). Once IYFS came out, there was a mad search to find the Tigermilks, but they were, alas, gone... Me, I blame it all on the fact that we have really crappy commercial radio here in the states, and never get to hear anything wonderful when it's brand, shiny new. If radio was worth it's salt the DJs would be looking for new songs to introduce us to rather than beating the same old stuff to death. B&S are only played semi-regularly on one station in this area, and that's only on Sunday night (WNEW-FM on the Vin Scelsa show). Although one day I ran out to the bank from work, and when I was leaving the drive-thru "The Fox in the Snow" came on WFUV from Fordham University -- it was so wonderful to hear it while driving that I had to drive around the block and go back to the office via the scenic route to hear it all. And my son played them regularly while interning on Fairfield University radio this summer -- but at 100 watts, it was hard to pick them up outside a small circle of friends. on and on............... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 7 14:11:05 1997 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 14:11:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: REGISTER YOURSELF NOW! Message-ID: Hi my name is Liz Daplyn (ok it's a wierd surname, I didn't ask to be born to a Yorkshire/Cornish family with a Flemish name, did I?) and I'm currently studying on a Foundation course in Art & Design in Kent and also applying to Fine Art degrees at university. I'm 19 and feel no need to apologise for it, kids. I play the flute and recorders (yes, it is a proper instrument!) quite well, and the guitar very badly. I also sing in a rather high and ridiculous voice, and speak Spanish (A-grade at A-level last year, not to boast or anything). I really should go and get my portfolio together as the deadline for Oxford is next Friday, but I'd really rather sit in the nice warm library than trek down to the studio in the bowels of the building (looks like a prison, highly appropriate for an art college, don't you think?). I like B&S (obviously, but I just thought I'd post that for any morons out there), Sparklehorse, Tindersticks, Rialto (anyone heard the new single? It's ace!), Nick Drake, Kenickie, Radiohead, The Divine Comedy, various other bands of taste and quality, but DEFINITELY DEFINITELY NOT My Life Story - take your tiara and insert it up the orifice of your choice. My birthday is the anniversary of the Battle of Hastings (14th October), which means what you want it to (and that I'm a Libran). So, that's me - note my astounding talent, sparkling wit and devastating intelligence. Do keep in touch, y'all. Lots of something, Liz *Boy on a bike, what are you like?* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ah6991 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 11 11:54:26 1997 From: ah6991 at xxx.uk (A FRIEND) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:54:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester & Arab Strap In-Reply-To: <345B9D8F.7AEE38F5@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: So whats the age limit on the gigs? My little brother is fourteen and a completely devoted fan - is there any chance of him getting in? (Don't worry he won't drink anything...) And are they gonna be played in churches again? I bought an Arab Strap single called The Clearing earlier this year which claims to feature Isobel Campbell and Chris Geddes - is this true and if so what did they do? I can't spot them. Also, would it sound stupid if I said that having bought the Mogwei album (cos you lot told me to) I just don't get it? Should I just listen to it more or is it's strangeness it's charm? For your census thing I'm 19 and a student of Physics and Philosophy, struggling to come to terms with the complexity and contradictions of the universe. And trying to get my "pompous git" writing style more convincing. I don't own Tigermilk but I'll soon have a copy (thanks Steve) and I like Asian Dub Foundation and McAlmont & Buttler and BRA (amongst others) right now. Long live the NME - Champion Of Mediawhores. Love Adam. ======================================================================== "To vote is to accept that others have the right to rule you." -An Anarchist. ======================================================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Nov 11 11:27:23 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:27:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Christ the old list's gone a spot quiet now Message-ID: <01BCEE94.C8D935A0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Not a lot going on is there? I'm flying down to London today and will hopefully be meeting Robert tonight before I have to hotfoot it off to the thrills and spills that is the Microsoft Professional Developers conference tomorrow where we all bow down and pay homage the lord that is Bill Gates. Peter, my mates used to love the sprint through Kelvingrove park after a night at the boozer a few years ago. I can just see them now, like Linford Christie both of them. Not much going on in the land of B+S at the moment is there - looks like we're just going to have to talk about something else then I suppose. Anyone see Verve on Jools Holland? I thoroughly enjoyed that last Saturday. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Tue Nov 11 13:28:55 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:28:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: manchester and arab strap Message-ID: <8025654C.0049FC40.00@bull.co.uk> Sinister: Manchester & Arab Strap A FRIEND (ah6991 at bristol.ac.uk) Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:54:26 +0000 (GMT) >So whats the age limit on the gigs? My little brother is >fourteen and a completely devoted fan - is there any chance >of him getting in? >And are they gonna be played in churches again? um, i don't know. licensed venues are usually 18+ but manchester town hall (where the gig is) isn't your usual venue so you may be lucky. i've noticed young kids in a couple of the gigs (glasgow and new york to be exact) but i think they are related to the band in some way so... actually, someone mentioned them playing cathedrals but stuart m mentioned in the tour diary thing from the mm that the sound is really soupy and they'd sound dreadful so... >I bought an Arab Strap single called The Clearing earlier >this year which claims to feature Isobel Campbell and Chris >Geddes - is this true? no, they lied on the sleeve... of course it's true. and i think it says on there what they do - isobel cello, chris keyboards of some sort. chris and stuart m. helped out on the arab strap peel session as well, keyboards and piano again, maybe backing vox. speaking of which, i noticed 'the smell of outdoor cooking' has been released. is this the peel session version and / or is there any b&s involvement? i didn't buy it at the time and it's 'limited' so... and there's that remix they did for someone else which sounds like aiden just speaks over the top of a track that was formerly an instrumental. good though. 'i tell you, it's always the same girl'... >Also, would it sound stupid if I said that having bought >the Mogwei album (cos you lot told me to) I just don't get >it? Should I just listen to it more or is it's strangeness >it's charm? are you a nuclear physicist perchance? no, that was alistair and paul both of whom belong to the list's old people brigade so you should take what they say with a pinch of salt if you're one of the youngsters. the older people here, as i've pointed out before, have strange(r) tastes in music. i have big theories about this but someone's already had a go at me for mentioning it so i'll keep them to myself. and yeah, listening to things more is always helpful. >For your census thing I'm 19 and a student of Physics and >Philosophy fuck, i was only joking about the pysicist thing too (because of the fact you used strangeness and charm in the same sentence). andy returning from self imposed list exile for a few minutes... "How's everything?" "Good. You?" "Oh, beautiful." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Nov 11 13:46:22 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 13:46:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: Wo sind die Pop-Kinder heute? Message-ID: <34685e90.2521148@email.mcmail.com> Hello, hello... It's all terribly quiet. Everyone just sitting there waiting for Manchester info? It's all terribly exciting. On my front door as well (not literally). I'd love to put you all up but I'll have a houseful. Sorry. Hasn't anyone got anything to say? Edible Tigermilk reissues? Belle and Sebastian range of underwear? Did you know Teenage Fanclub had knickers with the band's faces on the inside? Oh what saucy rogues. Does anyone else like Serge Gainsbourg? Did Susannah find 'Tigermilk'? Was there a very smug man in 'Vinyl Exchange', saying 'I've got it'? I loved the Becks-drinking frog story by the way. Did I tell you about us recreating the infamous B&S car-crash photo on New Year's Eve outside 'Smile'. It didn't come out and I got a cold from lying in the snow under someone's car. I suffer for their art. Oh you miserable lot love Tag xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Tue Nov 11 14:49:18 1997 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 09:49:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: Magnet Mag Message-ID: <01BCEE87.1529FC40@n150.natureny.com> <<"Seeing Other People," which features snappy piano overtones that ofcould have been played by Schroeder in Peanuts, demonstrates singer/ songwriter Stuart Murdoch's wit and nostalgia:>> That is genius. I had never thought of the Vince Giraldi (sp???) connection before. It made me smile this morning. Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Tue Nov 11 16:46:30 1997 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 11:46:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: How Could You Forget??? Message-ID: <01BCEE97.78546340@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> * That girl out of Galaxie 500 ....(i don't remember her name) Naomi Yang. Now in Damon and Naomi. BTW, the Galaxie 500 Boxset is wonderful. Also Naomi was the subject of one of my favorite Rocketship songs, Naomi and me sniff sniff. Brings back so many good memories. Think I'll listen to the 7" (ya know the one with the ballerina on the cover) this evening. Matt PS No B&S content ... YET. Hmmm. Let me think.... Ah Ha. I'd like to see Belle and Sebastian cover Galaxie 500's Oblivious. I think Stuart could work wonders with it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Tue Nov 11 17:57:04 1997 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:57:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Rise of Glasgow Bands Message-ID: Don't know if anyone here listens to Pete Tong's Radio 1 dance music slot, but I know you would have been pleasantly surprised to hear the gritty tones of Arab Strap if you tuned in last Friday. It turned out to be : David Holmes - Don't Die Just Yet (Arab Strap Remix) Some say the dance bubble is bursting. Clubs in Birmingham are running 70s nights (i.e. Saturday Night bloody fever) again. yuk. Has Pete been sniffing round for Jeepster stuff yet? --Rod a shameless hussy, musicwise ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Hintzm at xxx.uk Tue Nov 11 19:54:19 1997 From: Hintzm at xxx.uk (Matthew P Hintz) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 19:54:19 GMT Subject: Sinister: Looking for kind soul to tape that record In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6D974762B@regents.ac.uk> I had thought I would never bother any of you with _Tigermilk_ requests, but, oh well, I never stay with any of my resolutions anyway. A few weeks ago, someone was offering to make cassettes of that lp with the radio sessions on the b-side, does that offer still stand whoever made it? Yes, yes, forgive me, Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Nov 11 20:33:12 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 21:33:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Non daude pop-haurak gaur? References: <34685e90.2521148@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: <3468C107.459F5445@colon.net.> Robert McTaggart wrote: > Hasn't anyone got anything to say? Edible Tigermilk > reissues? > Belle and Sebastian range of underwear? Did you know > Teenage Fanclub > had knickers with the band's faces on the inside? Oh what > saucy > rogues. They are saucy, aren't they. I once bet a friend a fiver that he daren't pinch Norman's bum. And he did. And Norman didn't mind.Shit, I'm already running out of things to say. I know! It's the end of an era! IYFS has been removed from the display racks inn my local record emporium. But it has appeared in another shop. As has the Pet Sounds box, which I can't afford, thus saving me from muso-trainspotter overload. > > > Does anyone else like Serge Gainsbourg? Yes, Paul does, our shy and retiring list manager. Me too. But I haven't got hardly any. Bonnie and Clyde's my favourite. > Did Susannah find > 'Tigermilk'? That's what I'd like to know. I reckon your best bet is little out of the way places, like Burton-on-Trent or Whitby. > Was there a very smug man in 'Vinyl Exchange', saying > 'I've got it'? > > I loved the Becks-drinking frog story by the way. They were crabs, you bounder! Write out a hundred times "I must pay more attention" and do some lemur research. Did you know that lemurs (Belle and Sebastian's mascot from now on) are unable to hang from their tails? Poor little things! And their noses are...hang on a minute! This could make a cracking quiz - we haven't had a quiz for a while...question one - how big was the now extinct biggest ever lemur? The answer comes as quite a surprise. Question two - how did lemurs get to Madagascar? The answer comes as quite a surprise. > Did I tell you > about us recreating the infamous B&S car-crash photo on > New Year's Eve > outside 'Smile'. It didn't come out and I got a cold from > lying in > the snow under someone's car. I suffer for their art. I'm planning on recreating the Tigermilk sleeve this evening, with a little help from my cuddly lemur, 'cos tigers play too rough. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Nov 11 14:44:44 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:44:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Christ the old list's gone a spot quiet now References: <01BCEE94.C8D935A0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34686F5B.9C57B67B@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > Not a lot going on is there? I'm flying down to London > today and will hopefully be meeting Robert tonight before > I have to hotfoot it off to the thrills and spills that is > the Microsoft Professional Developers conference tomorrow > where we all bow down and pay homage the lord that is Bill > Gates. Splendid chap. Invented the Sunclair C5, you know. > Peter, my mates used to love the sprint through > Kelvingrove park after a night at the boozer a few years > ago. I can just see them now, like Linford Christie both > of them. Ah, the joys of Kelvingrove Park! My one nad only psychedelic toadstool experience involved walking through it at night, thoroughly cosmic as you can well imagine. Some people in Middle Eastern clothing walked past. Freaked me right out. > > > Not much going on in the land of B+S at the moment > is there - looks like we're just going to have to talk > about something else then I suppose. Anyone see Verve on > Jools Holland? I thoroughly enjoyed that last Saturday. No, I didn't. I watched Real Madrid beat Racing Santander with a typically cracking goal by Clarence Seedorf. He went through the packed defence like Dickie Ashcroft down the high street. I would love to have something B&S related to share with everyone, but I'm afraid I'm stumped. No crab stories either. I know! Has anyone experienced any unusual B&S coincidences? That might be a nice thread. Another great B&S thing is the front page of Robert Chesworth's B&S&Lemurs page. A marriage made in heaven, surely. I spent a little while following the Lemur Links, and I don't think it'll be my last time. My favourites are Hairy-Eared Dwarf Lemurs. Perhaps we could abuse the list by talking about lemurs? Great tails! > > > Cheers, > Keith. And cheers to you too Keith. I admit that this has been a very poor response to your very poor attempt to spark up a little conversation, but there we go. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Nov 11 20:51:25 1997 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 15:51:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: spiritualized Message-ID: <971111155123_699422631@mrin58.mail.aol.com> does anyone know anything about the band spiritualized? they are playing near where i live and i want to know if they're worth seeing. who or what do they sound like? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlang at xxx.com Tue Nov 11 22:47:03 1997 From: mlang at xxx.com (Matrix) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:47:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: spiritualized Message-ID: Spiritualized is an offspring of Spacemen 3 led by Jason Pierce. They have released the indisputable album of the year called LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE ARE FLOATING IN SPACE. It is as sonically and lyrically devastating as IF YOU'RE FEELING SINISTER is charming and inspiring. Every song is a symphonic wonder and the record thunders with gospel choirs, orchestras, guitars and synths and the band is kick ass as well. I can't go on enough about this record. The DARK SIDE OF THE MOON of the 90's. I have not seen them live yet but I will in a couple of weeks. It took a while for LADIES to replace IFYS as my favorite album of 1997, but it is undeniably better. steve matrick >does anyone know anything about the band spiritualized? they are playing near >where i live and i want to know if they're worth seeing. who or what do they >sound like? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Tue Nov 11 23:40:20 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 23:40:20 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Non daude pop-haurak gaur? In-Reply-To: <3468C107.459F5445@colon.net.> Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta wrote: > > Does anyone else like Serge Gainsbourg? > > Yes, Paul does, our shy and retiring list manager. Me too. > But I haven't got hardly any. Bonnie and Clyde's my > favourite. He does... He can't believe how wonderful Mick Harvey's new attempt at Gainsbourg's songs are too... Just a quick note to say I'm STILL a bit indisposed and off work - so anyone who's mailed me and left me things to look at, problems to fix - could they be patient! I will get back to people when I can I promise... Just for my own sake - just in case anyone (else) on the list has M.E. / CFS / CFIDS / whatever you want to call it, could they get in touch privately if they want to swap stories? Finally - I asked Nicola M to come up with another National Express story - Nicola, your crab story was better! Hit the spot nicely...! Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Wed Nov 12 09:24:53 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:24:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: spiritualized Message-ID: <01BCEF4C.D6491D00@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Spiritualized is an offspring of Spacemen 3 led by Jason Pierce. They have released the indisputable album of the year called LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE ARE FLOATING IN SPACE. ............ The DARK SIDE OF THE MOON of the 90's. THAT'S a recommendation?!? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 10:08:26 1997 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:08:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: Places to NOT find Tigermilk.... Message-ID: <199711121008.KAA13690@brookes.ac.uk> Just thought I'd write and tell people where NOT to get Tigermilk !! I've tried every record shop I could find in Nottingham, Halifax, Leeds, Bradford, Oxford, Whitby, Scarborough, Blackpool, Fleetwood, Reading, and the majority of Soho record shops. Has anyone got any others to add to this list ? It'd save that lass (can't remember her name) from hunting in these areas !! Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 10:26:32 1997 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:26:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Places to NOT find Tigermilk.... Message-ID: <961F2456FCD@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> > > Just thought I'd write and tell people where NOT to get Tigermilk !! > > I've tried every record shop I could find in Nottingham, Halifax, Leeds, > Bradford, Oxford, Whitby, Scarborough, Blackpool, Fleetwood, Reading, and the > majority of Soho record shops. Has anyone got any others to add to this list ? You can add Sheffield to that list too. Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 10:32:15 1997 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (Simon Tyers) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:32:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: Rise of Glasgow Bands (fwd) Message-ID: <199711121032.KAA18794@aether.cms.dmu.ac.uk> > It turned out to be : > > David Holmes - Don't Die Just Yet (Arab Strap Remix) Great record,that. > Some say the dance bubble is bursting. Clubs in Birmingham are running > 70s nights (i.e. Saturday Night bloody fever) again. yuk. The local one in Leicester is called Car Wash (imaginative,huh?) What was so good about the 70's that now makes it popular after 15 years of derision,anyway? Er....maybe David Holmes could get B&S to do a remix? (Back on topic! Hurrah!) Simon Tyers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Nov 12 10:25:48 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:25:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: Senor Miller esta un poco loco, creo In-Reply-To: <3468C107.459F5445@colon.net.> References: <34685e90.2521148@email.mcmail.com> <3468C107.459F5445@colon.net.> Message-ID: <34738428.5491263@email.mcmail.com> On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Peter Miller wrote: >They were crabs, you bounder! Write out a hundred times "I >must pay more attention" and do some lemur research. Aww...I was just testing. As if I'd make a damn fool mistake like that. And I already have a doctrate in advanced lemurology from the University of Samarkand. Lemurs don't drink Becks I can tell you, only the finest Bohemian hops for their delicate palettes. >Did you know that lemurs (Belle and Sebastian's mascot from now on) >are unable to hang from their tails? Poor little things! And >their noses are...hang on a minute! This could make a >cracking quiz - we haven't had a quiz for a while...question >one - how big was the now extinct biggest ever lemur? The >answer comes as quite a surprise. Question two - how did >lemurs get to Madagascar? The answer comes as quite a >surprise. In Noah's Ark? The number 46 from t'Market? They jumped? Hopped? Skipped the light fandango? I give up. Back to school for me, I guess. And what about their noses? Don't keep us in suspense, boy. Belle and Sebastian's mascot? Why stop there? A fire-breathing lemur should stand with pride on their coat of arms, with an inspirational motto (which I can't think of right now). >> Did Susannah find >> 'Tigermilk'? >That's what I'd like to know. I reckon your best bet is >little out of the way places, like Burton-on-Trent or >Whitby. Or Bangor. Oh, did you know Fiddlers Dram only got to number three with 'The day we went to Bangor' (oh yes, I have my sources)? And what exactly is a fiddler's dram? Is it like a baker's dozen? Or like tennis elbow. Sorry, no fiddling for me tonight, I've got a terrible dram. I think we should be told. Somebody please write something... Tagfield ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Nov 12 10:41:46 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:41:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: spiritualized (no b&s at all, sorry) Message-ID: <8025654D.003AB027.00@bull.co.uk> yep, go and see them if you have the chance. and take sunglasses 8) - the light show is superb, a simple idea done really well. i saw them recently at the london gig and they pulled out more stops than i knew existed - gospel singers, the works. sounds cheesy but isn't. don't know how it'll all sound without previous knowledge of the material but... can't believe i didn't go to the albert hall gig, so close to my birthday too, i must've been ill... oh, and someone asked me about getting a copy of the lp for him some time ago but plans sort of fell apart. still interested? sister ray was recently selling them for less than a tenner... ah, actually, there is some b&s content. someone was asking on teletext (ch4 page 480something) the other day where the lyrics 'lisa knows a girl who's been abused' came from... andy just me, my spike, my arm and my spoon... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Wed Nov 12 11:01:15 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 11:01:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Places to NOT find Tigermilk... Message-ID: <34698C7B.E6E@nmrc.ucc.ie> I tried every shop in Cork and most shops in Dublin. So, no need to come over to Ireland to hunt Tigermilk. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 12:17:46 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:17:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Beatniks, lemurs, the usual... Message-ID: <199711121224.MAA01396@orange.easynet.co.uk> Mighty quiet round these parts all of a sudden, ain't it? Here's a thing. My friend Jo has just lent me this book by Toby Litt called 'Beatniks', about a couple of guys who refuse to acknowledge the existence of anything after that day in 1966 when Mr Zimmerman pranged his pushbike. So much so that when they decide to drive to Brighton, they realise that they can't take the M25 because that would be, like, acknowledging that the world had moved on in the last thirty years. 'They're kinda like Belle and Sebastian', says Jo, 'Cos the world hasn't changed for them since the Go-Betweens left Postcard!' Hmmm . And so to the heated lemur debate. I know for a FACT that they swam to Madagascar. The cute little creatures' aquatic abilities were well known to dastardly German U-Boat Kapitans in WWII, who would strap mines to their backs and point them in the direction of the nearest British ship. Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stip at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 12:55:46 1997 From: Stip at xxx.uk (Stip / Blue Music) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:55:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: lemurs? Message-ID: You're going to kill me for this. What's a lemur? Apologies in advance. Love Nicola xx -- Nicola M Stip / Blue Music www.stip.demon.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 14:03:04 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:03:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Lemurs ROCK! In-Reply-To: <34738428.5491263@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: > >Did you know that lemurs (Belle and Sebastian's mascot from now on) > >are unable to hang from their tails? Poor little things! And > >their noses are...hang on a minute! This could make a > >cracking quiz - we haven't had a quiz for a while...question > >one - how big was the now extinct biggest ever lemur? The > >answer comes as quite a surprise. Question two - how did > >lemurs get to Madagascar? The answer comes as quite a > >surprise. Why do lemurs want to hang from their tails? The biggest ever lemur was of course the dreaded Lemurus Maximus. During the dinosaur era, they walked round Asia (well rolled actually, they were too big to be able to stand up) looking for prey. The dinosaurs were so suprised that lemurs could be so big, that they died of shock, and the lemur ate them. Unfortunately one day a picture of one appeared in a T-Rex school textbook, so eliminating the element of suprise, and they died out. The first lemurs got to Madagascar when a passing martian spaceship picked one up by mistake, and dropped it again. It came as quite a suprise to the lemurs as well. > > In Noah's Ark? The number 46 from t'Market? They jumped? Hopped? > Skipped the light fandango? I give up. Back to school for me, I > guess. And what about their noses? Don't keep us in suspense, boy. > Belle and Sebastian's mascot? Why stop there? A fire-breathing lemur > should stand with pride on their coat of arms, with an inspirational > motto (which I can't think of right now). > Surely it would be better if B&S had some small cuddly Scottish animal for a mascot, rather than a small cuddly Madagascan animal. How about a haggis? They're notoriously difficult to catch, due to their immense speed, but the baby females are ridiculously cute and twee... Back on topic briefly, the Letter of the Week or whatever they call it in this week's NME is by someone praising our heroes for not 'playing by the rules' when dealing with journalists. It's then followed by a very shirty reply by Johny Cigarettes saying basically that if B&S won't talk to the NME, the NME won't help them by publicising them in the future, and he'll go into a corner and cry for his mummy, and sulk for the rest of the day. Or something. But then, lemurs are much more fun aren't they? Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leh at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 14:12:40 1997 From: leh at xxx.uk (Laura/Happy Bunny/Hamilton:)) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:12:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Places to NOT find Tigermilk.... In-Reply-To: <961F2456FCD@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: Add St.Andrews to that love and hugs, Laura :) xxx On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Dr C.B.Stride wrote: > > > > Just thought I'd write and tell people where NOT to get Tigermilk !! > > > > I've tried every record shop I could find in Nottingham, Halifax, Leeds, > > Bradford, Oxford, Whitby, Scarborough, Blackpool, Fleetwood, Reading, and the > > majority of Soho record shops. Has anyone got any others to add to this list ? > You can add Sheffield to that list too. > Chris > C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk > > *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** > > *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** > > ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** > > "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Nov 12 14:10:56 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:10:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Beatniks, lemurs, the usual... References: <199711121224.MAA01396@orange.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <3469B8F0.BDB1EB57@colon.net.> stephen troussé wrote: > Mighty quiet round these parts all of a sudden, ain't it? > > Here's a thing. My friend Jo has just lent me this book by > Toby Litt called > 'Beatniks', about a couple of guys who refuse to > acknowledge the existence > of anything after that day in 1966 when Mr Zimmerman > pranged his pushbike. > So much so that when they decide to drive to Brighton, > they realise that > they can't take the M25 because that would be, like, > acknowledging that the > world had moved on in the last thirty years. 'They're > kinda like Belle and > Sebastian', says Jo, 'Cos the world hasn't changed for > them since the > Go-Betweens left Postcard!' Hmmm . This sounds like a good book. Is it? > > > And so to the heated lemur debate. I know for a FACT that > they swam to > Madagascar. The cute little creatures' aquatic abilities > were well known to > dastardly German U-Boat Kapitans in WWII, who would strap > mines to their > backs and point them in the direction of the nearest > British ship. > No, no. They made canoes out of banana leaves. Three lemurs per boat. Two paddled with their hands while the other one steered. They all went together in a furrier (thick luxurious fur) version of the Dunkirk landings. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Nov 12 13:59:39 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 14:59:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Senor Miller esta un poco loco, creo References: <34685e90.2521148@email.mcmail.com> <3468C107.459F5445@colon.net.> <34738428.5491263@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: <3469B64B.8757CB44@colon.net.> Robert McTaggart wrote: > O>Did you know that lemurs (Belle and Sebastian's mascot > from now on) > >are unable to hang from their tails? Poor little things! > And > >their noses are...hang on a minute! This could make a > >cracking quiz - we haven't had a quiz for a > while...question > >one - how big was the now extinct biggest ever lemur? The > > >answer comes as quite a surprise. Question two - how did > > >lemurs get to Madagascar? The answer comes as quite a > >surprise. > > In Noah's Ark? The number 46 from t'Market? They > jumped? Hopped? > Skipped the light fandango? I give up. Back to school > for me, I > guess. Apparently they floated across on vegetation!!! > And what about their noses? Don't keep us in suspense, > boy. Their noses are cold and wet, whereas gorillas' noses are warm and dry. Indicating that smell plays a greater part in lemur life. All this information comes from a website belonging to Duke University - a man of many talents? > > > Or Bangor. Oh, did you know Fiddlers Dram only got to > number three > with 'The day we went to Bangor' (oh yes, I have my > sources)? Yes, Keith put me right on that one. > And > what exactly is a fiddler's dram? Is it like a baker's > dozen? Or > like tennis elbow. Sorry, no fiddling for me tonight, > I've got a > terrible dram. I think we should be told. Dram is timber from Drammen in Norway. So if a fiddler had some... > > > Somebody please write something... > I have done Señor Miller ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Wed Nov 12 14:59:00 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:59:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Paris Show Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971112145900.006967c8@student.let.uva.nl> >The Paris show was cancelled quite sometime ago, and B&S will not play >Europe until at least March next year to co-incide with the promotion of >the 3rd LP. Oh and I'll bet they won't play The Netherlands (as usual). Getting more and more depressed here, listening to everyone getting excited about and making plans for the Manc gig. Sobsobsob! ----------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Wed Nov 12 15:04:40 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:04:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Eeyore Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971112150440.00673bd4@student.let.uva.nl> >There was a band from San Diego called Heavy Vegetable, and on their 2nd >album they wrote a great song called "E/or." >One and the same, just spelled differently. >These are things you need to know ;) > >Aadam> Cute ;) Eeyore Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Wed Nov 12 15:04:19 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:04:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: lemurs lemurs everywhere...where's B&S? In-Reply-To: References: <34738428.5491263@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: >How about a haggis? They're notoriously difficult to catch, due to their >immense >speed, but the baby females are ridiculously cute and twee... Two questions for you: 1) what exactly is a haggis, and 2) what exactly does "twee" mean? Please pardon my American ignorance. And now, ladies and gentlemen, a drum roll please...HERE'S SOME (mildly) BAND RELATED CONTENT! We got the _3, 6, 9 Seconds of Light_ 12" at the radio station here at NU. It was the first B&S vinyl that I'd come into contact with. It's so gorgeous, so satisfying to hold in your hands and cue up on the record player. And obviously many DJs at the station are sharing this sentiment, because it's getting quite a bit of airtime lately. I do remember hearing someone mention that it wasn't too far from the elusive Top Ten last week. I'll keep you posted. On a more melancholy note, my brief interlude with B&S vinyl made me yearn for more...like, say, a copy of Tigermilk. (Which, by the way, if anyone out there has a copy with which they'd be willing to part, I could offer you, say, my left leg or a kidney or something in exchange. Just to keep that in mind...) I remember a while back people were talking about favorite B&S moments. Well, I've finally identified mine: the first few seconds of "You Made Me Forget my Dreams," when someone sneezes and apologizes, and then Stuart M (I'm assuming) sort of chuckles/sighs before he begins singing the song. So lovely. And let me pause here to say that David and Katrina run the most wonderful and considertate mail order outfit I've ever known: kudos to you folks! So. With that, I'm off to finish (or so I'm telling myself) the Spanish paper I've been neglecting for a week. ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Medill School of Journalism Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "On the last day of your life, don't forget to die." --Silver Jews ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Wed Nov 12 15:03:16 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:03:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Lemurs References: <34685e90.2521148@email.mcmail.com> <3468C107.459F5445@colon.net.> <34738428.5491263@email.mcmail.com> <3469B64B.8757CB44@colon.net.> Message-ID: <3469C534.40D6@nmrc.ucc.ie> I cannot find the address of this B&S plus lemurs page anymore. Could someone give it to me? I am extremely bored at work today. Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alaning at xxx.fr Wed Nov 12 15:31:08 1997 From: alaning at xxx.fr (Alan) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:31:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: spiritualized Message-ID: <199711121531.QAA06861@mail2.isdnet.net> > > does anyone know anything about the band spiritualized? they are playing near > where i live and i want to know if they're worth seeing. who or what do they > sound like? they sound like...well a mixture of the beach boys, the velvet underground, the stooges and erm, a little bit of everything...i'll never be rock critic... the first album "lazer guided melodies" is a classic...well i think so...actually i remember when it was about to be released, i was quite amused by the adverts in the NME because i'd misread the title, it being in a sort of squiggle, and thought the album was called "Lager guided melodies"...anyway, i'd recommended Spacemen 3 as well...especially "playing with fire"...as for spiritualized, "ladies and gentlemen..." is fabulous...go get! Erm, while we're on the subject...the other night i saw Mogwai play live...one of the only few gigs i've seen were they sounded miles better than on record...it was FANTASTIC!!!!(even though i hate the word "gig") Go see for yourselves!!! love, alan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Wed Nov 12 15:45:38 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:45:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: lemurs? Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971112154538.006a19d8@student.let.uva.nl> Nicola wrote: >You're going to kill me for this. > >What's a lemur? > >Apologies in advance. No, no, no! I'm really glad you asked, 'cos.....I don't know either and was too shy to ask..... Eeyore -------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 15:43:45 1997 From: WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk (Rhys Williams) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 15:43:45 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Beatniks, lemurs, the usual... In-Reply-To: <3469B8F0.BDB1EB57@colon.net.> Message-ID: <4D3B163B31@NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK> > > Here's a thing. My friend Jo has just lent me this book by > > Toby Litt called > > 'Beatniks' > This sounds like a good book. Is it? > It is, yeah, fantastic! Essential reading for all Kerouac fans. Sort of takes the piss out of the On The Road Myth, but in a nice way. Plenty of gritty and realistic shagging as well. Rhys ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Tue Nov 11 16:21:45 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 16:21:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re: old chaps and their tastes Message-ID: <199711121627.QAA11733@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Andrew wrote: > no, that was alistair > and paul both of whom belong to the list's old people > brigade so you should take what they say with a pinch of > salt if you're one of the youngsters. the older people here, > as i've pointed out before, have strange(r) tastes in music. > i have big theories about this but someone's already had a > go at me for mentioning it so i'll keep them to myself. and > yeah, listening to things more is always helpful. > > And I say: No, no, please tell us what your theory is! I guess I qualify as middle aged in this list's terms (being three years or so short of the duke's venerable tally (dotage? no...), but I guess I qualify as one of the strange(r) musical tastes lot. For example, my record buying at the weekend consisted of reggae (a roots compilation and some early 80s King Tubby dancehall 10"compilation), country music (an album of scratchy bluegrassy stuff by The Country Gentlemen and the See For Miles compilation called Open Country) and hip-hop (the new-ish Latyrx EP). Maybe that doesn'y qualify as strange by this list's standards. The fellow in the shop certainly gave me a funny look. 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M25)!3D10055,0D]42$]&5TA/34)%3$].1U1/5$A%3$E35%-/3$1014]03$5" A4DE'041%4T]93U532$]53$1404M%5TA!5%1(`````-\P ` end ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R2-CROWLEY at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 17:00:52 1997 From: R2-CROWLEY at xxx.uk (RodneyXX) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:00:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Places to NOT find Tigermilk Message-ID: Don't bother looking in Bristol either. Replay, Revolver and Imperial. Zilch I'm afraid. RodneyXX ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mkobayas at xxx.edu Wed Nov 12 17:13:43 1997 From: mkobayas at xxx.edu (Michi Kobayashi) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 09:13:43 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: hullo! Message-ID: <199711121713.JAA14738@rigel.oac.uci.edu> hullo sinister kids, i've noticed that many who own a copy of tigermilk are in the UK...i guess they didn't ship many out to the US...mostly as promos, maybe? do we have any US kids or others that can say that they own a copy of tigermilk? well, i would love to say that i am a proud owner of tigermilk but unfortunately, i'm not a proud owner of tigermilk..although, i have been in a mad search for tigermilk..i still haven't found a copy..i will find it...well...maybe not.. i'm sure if i went to japan, i could find it for an outrageous price...would i buy it, if i found it? Of course!!! anyways, i'm sorry if this has been asked but has the B&S of sessions at w. 54th been aired yet? since i'm writing, i'd like to say that i'm 19 and i am student...and i'm dying to get of here...will someone help me? (michi laughs) well, i'm off... ta! michi** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jesandy at xxx.edu Wed Nov 12 17:21:47 1997 From: jesandy at xxx.edu (Jennifer ) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 12:21:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: Lemurs Message-ID: <199711121720.MAA12092@cayman.ucs.indiana.edu> hmm... so there is a reason everyone is talking about lemurs... here i am thinking that perhaps all b&s fans are slightly insane and like to talk about totally unrelated topics... guess you lot proved me wrong. (or did you..?) someone put the address on the list, i want to see this page for myself! jennifer -----Original Message----- From: Sven Fuchs To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: Wednesday, November 12, 1997 12:09 PM Subject: Sinister: Re: Lemurs I cannot find the address of this B&S plus lemurs page anymore. Could someone give it to me? I am extremely bored at work today. Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 18:00:46 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 18:00:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: lemur content high - B&S content low Message-ID: This is the lemur-getting-to-Madagascar story as it was told to me by a disgruntled pine marten in a bar in Kingussie.. Basically there were 3 lemurs sitting in a cafe in Maputo, Mozambique. It was a special day as the two males had just come back from a tour upcountry and it was the first sniff of a female they had had in ages. So there were lots of stories and general bragaddocio [who was on the run after a failed putsch in Lima]. The lemurs were trying to convince the unlucky female that they were both qualified engineers( I don't know why they thought this would impress the lady but they'd had a few - OK??)Coz they'd been drinking they were drawing up blueprints and designs in front of her and everything was making a lot of sense. They were proposing a kind of hydro-foil twin-masted sailing yacht. Now this is the amazing bit because they staggered down to the beach to prove it to the lady (let us call her Jane) when she said they were talking bollocks. The two male lemurs made a series of cognitive leaps that have baffled scientists ever since, and which they themselves have never been able to repeat. They fashioned simple tools; made quick calculations of appropriate hydro-foil angles, bribed the harbour officials, threw Jane onboard and with a following wind were off. Progress was swift and comfortable but having sighted land disaster struck. The boat capsized and they were forced to swim for their lives. Exhausted they hung on to some mats of flotting vegetation and were thus washed ashore. Thats what Marten said... hot love john xxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Wed Nov 12 18:43:38 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 18:43:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: And my latest project is...... Message-ID: <971112184338.n0005209.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Inspired by Robert McTaggarts attempts with mocking up car crashes in the snow etc. I have decided to go the whole hog and spend an evening recreating those covers with a standard Boots camera....... Dog On Wheels Well, no, actually ' Elephant on Wheels' , a small wooden thing I brought back from India, not quite the same but will have to do. Ruffle my hair in that windswept unwashed stylee and think about how to create the colour ' green' without any of your ponsey camera filters. Decide to cast my mind back to the hangover I had on Saturday , and hey presto, instant jaundiced look. Nick my flatmates hooded top and go and stand outside the neighbours potted geranium. Set camera to auto-bollocks, pose and *CLICK*. Lazy Line Painter Jane Hmmmm. Got the filter thing sorted out now, unwrap a strawberry cream from flatmates box of Quality Street and stick pink cellophane wrapper over camera lens. Bung on old leather jacket from studenty days, find 50p and missing Rimmel lipstick in pocket and am well chuffed. Haven't got a copy of John Polkinghome or whatever, and never even heard of the guy. Think Albert Camus' 'The Plague' is pretentious enough so use that instead. Finally grab McDonalds' 99p sunglasses , sit in the window and think about life. *CLICK* Tigermilk Right then duke of whoever, Keith, Taggart etc, I'd like to see any of YOU lot do this convincingly. So here I am, sat on my bed, practically starkers, all for the sake of 'Art'. Look round for plausible customer.Finally settle on fluffy yellow 'Big Bird' from Sesame Street. It looks ridiculous. I feel ridiculous. It's at this point I begin to wonder if I've actually gone insane and hope my flatmate doesn't come back from Sainsbury's too soon. moving right along.... 3..6..9 seconds of light So how do you go about trying to look 12 when you're actually...like...25? Decide to try and look younger by washing off make-up and smiling. And I need to be all in white and silver, with a boy. Phone up my mate Dave. Explain the plan and ask him if he wouldn't mind shaving his beard of as that'll just look all wrong. Dave thinks I'm a nutter and hangs up. Decide to go it alone, dust my face in talcum powder and look for a clean white background. End up lying horizontal on my bedsheet as that's white and NEARLY clean.*CLICK* If You're Feeling Sinister Ooooooh got to get all intellectual for this one, and in red again. Use same sweet wrapper again as is almost same colour and my budget won't stretch to a box of Roses. Haven't got a copy of The Trial but DO have Franz Kafka's Metamorphoses and other Stories. My English teacher would have been proud. Pose thoughtfully for last time.*CLICK* NEXT WEEK: Invite my mates round with tea towels on their heads to do the Centrefold. susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 17:36:52 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:36:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Beatniks, lemurs, the usual... References: <4D3B163B31@NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK> Message-ID: <3469E933.4623D64A@mail.zynet.co.uk> Rhys Williams wrote: > > > Here's a thing. My friend Jo has just lent > me this book by > > > Toby Litt called > > > 'Beatniks' > > This sounds like a good book. Is it? > > > It is, yeah, fantastic! Essential reading for > all Kerouac fans. > Sort of takes the piss out of the On The Road > Myth, but in a nice > way. Plenty of gritty and realistic shagging as > well. as opposed to... smooth and imaginary shagging presumably? anyway, realism is the externalisation of internalised fantasy, and my realistic is far from gritty. anything that takes the piss out of the keruoac myth is cool by me though... you have to consume his literature in a bubble of myopia, and that's of course the whole fun of it. a tragic story of misplaced trust and self-hatered. book of dreams is the best, yessum. also 'safe in heaven dead' is good for a giggle. "Once God moves the hand, and you go back and revise, it's a sin! My thought doesn't have to be improved - because i got it from Heaven!" hee hee. keep a faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 17:25:12 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:25:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: spiritualized References: Message-ID: <3469E677.5193DFCF@mail.zynet.co.uk> > The DARK SIDE OF THE MOON of the 90's. and this is meant as... a 'compliment'? seems reason enough to avoid as far i can see :-) i have a spiritualized cd single if anyone wants it. 'electricity', part one of a two cds set apprantly, and i have played it a half time. couldn't get to the end. if anyone wants to trade something i'm willing. just been reading simon reynolds 1989(?) book 'blissed out' and reading again about the whole dreampop thang, and ohhh, i still like that whole loop bit, but spacemen 3? and the excuses reynolds makes for prog rock... hmmm. dubious. wonder what he'd make of belle & sebastian? anyway, not that's it's of much interest now because it hasn't happened yet, but there should be a book published sometime (in the new year or so i guess... nearer spring next year?) which will collect missives about such luminaries as Felt, The Claim, Go-Betweens, arab Strap and, strangely enough, our beloveds. (as opposed to THE beloved, who i actually rather liked when they thought they were new order). you'll be first to hear of details when it's fully finalised. keep the faith kids, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 17:28:04 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:28:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Beatniks, lemurs, the usual... References: <199711121224.MAA01396@orange.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <3469E723.E4EA0F8E@mail.zynet.co.uk> > 'Cos the world hasn't changed for them since > the > Go-Betweens left Postcard!' sounds like a line from a great song... who's gonna write it then? -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjouan at xxx.com Wed Nov 12 18:58:05 1997 From: mjouan at xxx.com (Michelle Jouan) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:58:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: oh, really? Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971112185805.006bab6c@mailbox.previewtravel.com> >Just thought I'd write and tell people where NOT to get Tigermilk !! > >I've tried every record shop I could find in Nottingham, Halifax, Leeds, >Bradford, Oxford, Whitby, Scarborough, Blackpool, Fleetwood, Reading, and the >majority of Soho record shops. sounds like a bluff if *i* ever heard one!!! if i lived in any of the above cities, i'd be combing the record shoppes. i do believe kind mr. ben has hidden a copy of tigermilk on the shelves in the depths of the led zeppelin section. ;) michelle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 19:20:20 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:20:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Not lemurs at least... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Amanda Bergman wrote: > >How about a haggis? They're notoriously difficult to catch, due to their > >immense > >speed, but the baby females are ridiculously cute and twee... > > Two questions for you: 1) what exactly is a haggis, and 2) what exactly > does "twee" mean? > Please pardon my American ignorance. A haggis is a small furry scottish mammal. Very little is known about these elusive creatures, as they have a habit of running away and hiding underground whenever you come near. The only way to make them come out of their holes is to stand on top of the burrow, and repeatedly jump up and down. Perhaps the best source of information is a study done on them in 1976 by a biologist from Glasgow - let's call him Fergus (not to protect his anonymity or anything, but because that was his name). What he discovered was: "Each haggis has one long leg and one short leg. This is because the natural habitat of the haggis is the Scottish hills, and so they can run very quickly around the side of the hills to get away from predators without falling over. This is what makes them so hard for humans to capture. Males have the right leg longer, and females have the left leg longer, so when they run round the hills they meet each other face to face. Little is known of their mating habits, but it is thought that they each run backwards around the hill so that their backsides are facing each other. The species is becoming increasingly rare, partly due to hunting by humans, who consider the haggis a great delicacy (although this practice has now been outlawed everywhere in the world except Scotland, where bizarre rituals are attached to it involving strange musical instruments and men wearing dresses); and partly due to the fact that whenever there is a flood they all get washed down the hills, and because of their long leg they cannot climb back up to their burrows again. Some unscupulous people have been known to deliberately spray hoses down hillsides to wash all the haggis down to the bottom of the valley, and then collect them and sell them for food." Hope that answers your question. Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Wed Nov 12 19:33:04 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 19:33:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: spiritualized References: <3469E677.5193DFCF@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <971112193304.n0005262.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 12 Nov 97, the duke of harringay wrote... i >have a spiritualized cd single if anyone wants >it. 'electricity', part one of a two cds set >apprantly, and i have played it a half time. >couldn't get to the end. if anyone wants to trade >something i'm willing. > > I have half a packet of cornflakes I am willing to swap. susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Thu Nov 13 01:00:22 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 97 17:00:22 PST Subject: Sinister: own up Message-ID: i do believe that there are a lot of people on this list making up shit as they go along. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 19:36:07 1997 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 19:36:07 GMT Subject: Sinister: spiritualized In-Reply-To: <3469E677.5193DFCF@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: i > have a spiritualized cd single if anyone wants > it. 'electricity', part one of a two cds set > apprantly, and i have played it a half time. > couldn't get to the end. if anyone wants to trade > something i'm willing. > whatta coincidence, i've got one of those cd singles, the one with live tracks on it, i too have only ever managed to listen to the first half. how odd and irrelevant. t'other kate ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Wed Nov 12 19:10:05 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 17:10:05 -0200 Subject: Sinister: How Could You Forget??? Message-ID: <20100522908403@secrel.com.br> you wrote: >sinister-digest >From: "Matthew A. Neimark" >Subject: Sinister: How Could You Forget??? (no B&S) >* That girl out of Galaxie 500 ....(i don't remember her name) >Naomi Yang. Now in Damon and Naomi. BTW, the Galaxie 500 Boxset is >wonderful. Also Naomi was the subject of one of my favorite Rocketship >songs, Naomi and me sniff sniff. Brings back so many good memories. >Think I'll listen to the 7" (ya know the one with the ballerina on the >cover) this evening. :o) because i'm very Dumb !!! but i love them ! Don't you think Rocketship is SO MY Bloody Valentine in * Ecstasy and Wine* ? I like them too ! >Matt >PS No B&S content ... YET. Hmmm. Let me think.... Ah Ha. I'd like >to see Belle and Sebastian cover Galaxie 500's Oblivious. I think >Stuart could work wonders with it. It could be great !! But they could cover some Bauhaus' songs too ! IT'S A JOKE !!!!! :o) Ivo A P Escossia, listening to the Metronome album....SO LOVELY !! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 12 21:01:21 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:01:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: hullo! In-Reply-To: <199711121713.JAA14738@rigel.oac.uci.edu> Message-ID: hey, speaking of tigermilk, i heard rumors about a potential re-release. can anyone substantiate this? laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 12 22:21:09 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (***Rob B*** :)) Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 22:21:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Lemurs In-Reply-To: <3469C534.40D6@nmrc.ucc.ie> Message-ID: The address you are after is: *** http://www.reepham.demon.co.uk/index.htm *** So there you go! Rob On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, Sven Fuchs wrote: > I cannot find the address of this B&S plus lemurs page anymore. > Could someone give it to me? I am extremely bored at work today. > > Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Iain at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 03:19:26 1997 From: Iain at xxx.uk (Iain Meakin) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 03:19:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Football (again). Message-ID: <346A71BE.1952@chkymnky.demon.co.uk> >It must be a connection between Midlands football teams and B&S, as >I'm a >Forest fan, and I know of at least one other on the list ... and I'm the other Forest fan, but I live in nottingham, although co-incidentilly I am also 27. I sort of work as a freelance computer programmer, but I don't do much. ANyway, about B&S: Did anybody else think that B&S got really limited airplay for 3,6,9 ? I listen to loads of radio ('cos I've got nothing better to do) and only heard it played once, and that was on University Radio Nottingham. This is ironic because I only got into B&S through hearing "The State I am In" on Jo Wiley. I then rushed out to try to buy it but could only find "If your feeling sinister" in the local Our Price in Ealing (where I was living at the time. I was initially disappointed, but soon realised that I'd stumbled on what has become one of my favourite albums of all time. Funny that. Iain. www.chkymnky.demon.co.uk ---------- From: ben ferneyhough[SMTP:bferneyhough at xxx.uk] Sent: 04 November 1997 13:19 To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: Football (again). It must be a connection between Midlands football teams and B&S, as I'm a Forest fan, and I know of at least one other on the list. I'm 27 (pushing that B&S average age up), and am a physiology technician here in dull Oxford (except when it's sound city, or when B&S play !!). Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.Haggett at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 09:48:45 1997 From: R.Haggett at xxx.uk (Ricky HAGGETT) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 09:48:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bands Message-ID: <507.879414525@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Yay! Arab Strap! Either bands from Scotland are better on the whole, or the rest of us never get to hear about the terrible ones. Does anyone out there like Smog? Gerry Love was at their last London gig. Which just goes to show. Will Belle and Sebastian be in London again soon? Ever? What about Weezer? Oh well. Love and hugs, Ricky ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 10:06:33 1997 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:06:33 GMT Subject: Sinister: oh, really? (Forward) Message-ID: <199711131006.KAA16975@brookes.ac.uk> >>Just thought I'd write and tell people where NOT to get Tigermilk !! >> >>I've tried every record shop I could find in Nottingham, Halifax, Leeds, >>Bradford, Oxford, Whitby, Scarborough, Blackpool, Fleetwood, Reading, and the >>majority of Soho record shops. > >sounds like a bluff if *i* ever heard one!!! >if i lived in any of the above cities, i'd be combing the record shoppes. i >do believe kind mr. ben has hidden a copy of tigermilk on the shelves in the >depths of the led zeppelin section. > >;) >michelle You're getting closer !!! Actually, try the Black Sabbath section.....or was it Ozzy. I forget :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Thu Nov 13 10:43:30 1997 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 20:43:30 +1000 Subject: Sinister: top service.. and with a smile Message-ID: <346AD9D2.4791@gil.com.au> hi kids, just thought i'd say that a little mail package arrived this arvo from the B&S lot. i ordered a few singles and *hey presto!* they were on my doorstep in no time. i must say thanks to katrina and david for being so prompt in sending out my order... so if anyone is thinking of ordering from the fanclub, do it. i was going to buy a shirt too, but i made my own.... once i had that loom dusted off they were done in no time ;) smiles all 'round shelley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9503594b at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 12:25:39 1997 From: 9503594b at xxx.uk (Julia Mary Brown) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:25:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: lemurs lemurs everywhere...where's B&S? Message-ID: <1ADFA5D7A8B@student.gla.ac.uk> > I remember a while back people were talking about favorite B&S moments. > Well, I've finally identified mine: the first few seconds of "You Made Me > Forget my Dreams," when someone sneezes and apologizes, and then Stuart M > (I'm assuming) sort of chuckles/sighs before he begins singing the song. So > lovely. > Hope this does't spoil it for you, and I'm maybe wrong anyway, but doesn't someone say 'sorry, I slept in' and them Stuart Murdoch sighs. It's one of my favourite B&S moments too. Another is when Stuart M. told off the QM Union audience for being very noisy, cause of 'too much cheap booze', in the most grannyish of tones. And I must confess I don't know what a lemur is either. And to whoever enquired about Stuart Murdoch's pants, (I saw him in the laundry, incase that statement appears very disturbing without further qualification!), I'm afraid I haven't a clue, cause if my friends ever found out that I had looked they would never let me live it down. They wanted to know what I had taken, but i swear if Stuart Murdoch was left with any odd socks after that trip, it wasn't anything to do with me, honest!! Juliaxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Nov 13 10:22:34 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:22:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: re: old chaps and their tastes References: <199711121627.QAA11733@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <346AD4EA.C45D8A08@colon.net.> Hopkins T wrote: > Andrew wrote: > > no, that was alistair > > and paul both of whom belong to the list's old people > > brigade so you should take what they say with a pinch of > > > salt if you're one of the youngsters. the older people > here, > > as i've pointed out before, have strange(r) tastes in > music. > > i have big theories about this but someone's already had > a > > go at me for mentioning it so i'll keep them to myself. > and > > yeah, listening to things more is always helpful. > > > > > And I say: > No, no, please tell us what your theory is! I > guess I qualify as > middle aged in this list's terms (being three years or so > short of the > duke's venerable tally (dotage? no...), but I guess I > qualify as one of > the strange(r) musical tastes lot. For example, my record > buying at the > weekend consisted of reggae (a roots compilation and some > early 80s King > Tubby dancehall 10"compilation), country music (an album > of scratchy > bluegrassy stuff by The Country Gentlemen and the See For > Miles > compilation called Open Country) and hip-hop (the new-ish > Latyrx EP). > Maybe that doesn'y qualify as strange by this > list's standards. > The fellow in the shop certainly gave me a funny > look. > Tim That could be another thread, funny looks in record shops...the funniest look I ever got in a record shop was when I bought a Sun Ra LP in Swordfish Records in Birmingham. They both had a good laugh at my expense, the cheeky monkeys. To cap it all, when my dad saw the record he said, "Who's that fatty?" Which just goes to show. B&S bit. After months of trying, I finally had a Belle and Sebastian dream! It was a concert and they sounded completely different. People from the audience were invited up on stage to play the glockenspiel. Stuart Murdoch showed me his underpants (I don't know why). They were turquoise bikini bottoms. Freaky, eh? Any psychologists on the list? Amateur or otherwise.... Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Thu Nov 13 12:58:10 1997 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:58:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: football Message-ID: I didn't want to admit this before but I am feeling, for the first time in rather a while, proud to actually be a Hearts fan and even worse a shareholder ( novelty Xmas present from a fanatic father). Wahey!! top of the league!!. What's even better is that I live with a Rangers fan. This is terrible, I'm getting excited about football. I'm well and truly bored........... Claire. " My toes can talk and they're smiling at me" - isn't that such a good lyric? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Nov 13 12:57:23 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:57:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: own up/lemur page References: Message-ID: <346AF933.8E34CA8F@colon.net.> bradford wrote: > i do believe that there are a lot of people on this list > making up shit as they go along. > -brad No way mate, this is all scientifically proven fact! Lemur lovers should "point their browser" to (or at): http://www.reepham.demon.co.uk/ Dedicated lemur researchers should then follow some of the lemur links to get to the really meaty information. If you are bitten by the bug, you can investigate the equally fascinating world of Madagascan vegetation. Apparently lemurs are less advanced than monkeys, but that doesn't mean they stopped evolving, it just means they evolved in different ways....which brings us back to B&S! They didn't stop evolving when the Go-Betweens left Postcard, they just evolved in different ways to say...(desperately tries to think of something modern) Bently Rhythm Ace. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 18:36:10 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:36:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Observations of the obvious kind Message-ID: Its good to talk? ----------------- It seems a lot of what i read on the list is of total uninterest, with many personalised and 'informal' groups talking between themselves. I don't write much to the list because often you get what you want to here from a select few, even though you find yourself reading through pages of rubbish just for maybe a few sentences of sense. Remember this list is about BELLE + SEBASTIAN!!!! OK I'm maybe being a little bit harsh but quality before quantity surely. Things i've observed............ --------------------------------- 1. Many people on the list are : football fans part of a academic setup (email joy) 2. Many people want tigermilk - ok obvious, but isn't it only a matter of time before BOOTLEGS become available and the band start getting screwed. A re-release must be imminent? 3. Many people want to see B+S - ok obvious again, but i'm sure everyone connected with the list are waiting for info. about Manchester and are already forward planning. Out of interest why Manchester anyway? and why only two gigs? Ok i'm bored and i might be talking rubbish myself but i joined this list to talk about B+S. Finally i don't want to kiss ass but I'm grateful for the response i've had from previous emails. Call me ignorant but who are these people who respond? and what are there connection with the band? Anyway got to go, sorry to bore Feedback would be nice, good or bad In the immortal words of Roy Walker "Say what you see"( sorry non-Britain) Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 14:01:28 1997 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:01:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bizzare Dreams Message-ID: Talking of dreams, I had a Teenage Fanclub related oner last night. And had completely forgotten about it, till both subjects came up here.... They were playing on my driveway for some reason, or at leat it ended up that way.... It also ended up with no one on stage apart from Gerry, who was playing a six string typey guitar instead of a basey type one. He then started to play songs on his own Billy Bragg style and actually started 'The Short Answer'.... He then asked Norman, who was now in the crowd if he wanted to sing it and Norman said he couldn't be arsed... So I got up and said I'll sing it, and Gerry smiled and I started to sing... I could actually remember the words in my dream, but I was all out of tune and it was horrible... Thankyou doctor, but I think my 55 minutes is up now. See you next week bye neil ------------------------------------------------- " if you're chasing the morning, if you're sleeping all day..." ------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Thu Nov 13 14:18:52 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:18:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Lemurs Message-ID: <346B0C4C.6161@nmrc.ucc.ie> >Apparently lemurs are less advanced than monkeys, but that >doesn't mean they stopped evolving, it just means they >evolved in different ways.... Yeah, that's right. That's why they got extinct or got replaced by monkeys in other parts of the world. Pretty much like bands like Oasis replaced decent bands, e.g. B&S, if you can trust the top ten of the indie charts. But Oasis is definitely not more evolved. So what's wrong with this world? Or does it mean that cuddly creatures are bound to get replaced by monkeys? Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 12:55:30 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:55:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: And my latest project is...... Message-ID: <01BCF033.6CD8D800@keith@qss.co.uk> Tigermilk Right then duke of whoever, Keith, Taggart etc, I'd like to see any of YOU lot do this convincingly. So here I am, sat on my bed, practically starkers, all for the sake of 'Art'. Look round for plausible customer.Finally settle on fluffy yellow 'Big Bird' from Sesame Street. It looks ridiculous. I feel ridiculous. It's at this point I begin to wonder if I've actually gone insane and hope my flatmate doesn't come back from Sainsbury's too soon. moving right along.... [Keith Watson] Sorry... do what? And also, why would you like to see us do this convincingly? Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 14:29:10 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (*James* :)) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:29:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Ink Polaroids Message-ID: Can someone tell me what Ink Polaroids is supposed to be about? From what i read on the web pages, its got descriptions of pictures which haven't beenn taken or something? James :) ---------------------------------------- Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk or: J.C.Y.Ng at warwick.ac.uk Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926 ---------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 14:57:18 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:57:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: lemur page and funny looks Message-ID: <199711131457.OAA10635@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> peter wrote: > Lemur lovers should "point their browser" to (or at): > > http://www.reepham.demon.co.uk/ > I've been there and there sure are a whole mess of lemurs on those pages. More lemurs than you could shake a stick at, if you were minded to shake a stick at lemurs, which of course I am not. It cheered me up because it showed me that there is a lemur called the slow loris, which is the name of a song by the Wolfhounds, once a favourite band of mine, who of course shared a label with McCarthy, the subject of several off/on discussions on this list from time to time. There you are, almost back on topic, in just two easy moves! As for funny looks in record shops, I always think buying multiple copies of things works a treat. The day I bought four copies of 'O.B. McClinton Country' by (funnily enough) OB McClinton in Power Cuts in Manchester, for one pound each, the geezer behind the counter looked as though he didn't know whether to call the police or the social services. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 15:08:36 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:08:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: susannah's project Message-ID: <199711131513.PAA06139@orange.easynet.co.uk> > Inspired by Robert McTaggarts attempts with mocking up car crashes in the snow > etc. I have decided to go the whole hog and spend an evening recreating those > covers with a standard Boots camera....... I can only applaud your efforts, susannah. There are several other covers I would like to see recreated in a similar way: 1) Roxy Music's Stranded (needed: 1 panther) 2) Prefab Sprout's Steve McQueen (motorbike and rubbish beard) and 3) the Pogues' Rum, Sodomy and the Lash (tricky)... This lemur business is getting a bit tired... And anyway, meerkats are much cooler! For a cornucopia of intruiging meerkat information try http://www.meerkats.org... Finally, getting back on topic... was there a thread a while ago about close encounters with our favourite oddball popsters? Well anyway, here's mine: I was working up in Edinburgh at the Book Festival this summer, and one afternoon I went walking down the Royal Mile to watch the street entertainers. And who should I see watching some fire-breathing dwarf juggling kitchen knives??? Stevie Jackson, that's who. I could barely contain my excitement and went over to express my enthusiasm for his bravura performance of 'Like a Rolling Stone' at the Islington Chapel. I was wearing my mad playgroup leader orange B&S t-shirt at the time, and I think he probably thought I was some kind of stalker... Incidentally, duke, I think Simon Reynolds would almost definitely see B&S as crypto-cutie C86 throwbacks. Although he surprised me with eulogy of the Slits in this month's Uncut, so anything's possible... Stephen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From DaveNicoll at xxx.com Thu Nov 13 15:21:40 1997 From: DaveNicoll at xxx.com (DaveNicoll at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:21:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: And my latest project is...... Message-ID: <971113102138_630665264@mrin39> In a message dated 13/11/97 14:54:08, you write: << Tigermilk Right then duke of whoever, Keith, Taggart etc, I'd like to see any of YOU lot do this convincingly. So here I am, sat on my bed, practically starkers, all for the sake of 'Art'. Look round for plausible customer.Finally settle on fluffy yellow 'Big Bird' from Sesame Street. It looks ridiculous. I feel ridiculous. It's at this point I begin to wonder if I've actually gone insane and hope my flatmate doesn't come back from Sainsbury's too soon. moving right along.... [Keith Watson] Sorry... do what? And also, why would you like to see us do this convincingly? Keith. >> Come on Keith, pay attention!! Your mission, should you wish to accept it, is to photographically recreate the cover of Tigermilk. Your challenger (susannah was it?) thinks you may have problems due to your obvious maleness. She obviously isn't reckoning on your vast abundance of female acquintances, who's assistance you could call upon. How about that young lady you were "associating" with at my party last year? On another topic, I'm afraid I too must come out against the current vogue for non-B&S related ramblings. I have the misfortune (like several other listees no doubt) of only being able to access the list from my place of work. In the interests of concientiousness (and keeping my job) I can only do this for small periods of time. This is made all the more difficult if I need to wade through endless meandering streams of thought in order to come across the nuggets of B&S content. Apologies if this all sounds a bit fascist, but surely the purpose of the list is to disseminate B&S info as widely as possible (hey..let's not start another pop thread). This means will only be defeated if the current conversation patterns lead to a rash of unsubscriptions. So keep up the irreverance, but a little less irrelevance please. David. "The chances are You'll proabably feel better If you stayed and played with yourself" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Thu Nov 13 15:52:31 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:52:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: lemur page and funny looks Message-ID: <01BCF04C.28419A60@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> I've always fancied going into a big chart record shop, strolling up to the counter, then pulling out a pair of dice - no, better make that 2 pairs of dice - then, when the shop assistant asks what I want, roll the dice across the counter, count up the spots on the dice and ask for that number record in the charts. That'd freak 'em out! Mind you, I often think that's how most people must choose their records anyhow, coz only a random selection method could possibly account for most of the records in the charts... Anyway, getting back on topic....I think lemurs are great too. It's a shame that so many of them feel the urge to leap off cliffs in that suicidal way of theirs. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1852 bytes Desc: not available URL: From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 15:57:00 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:57:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: SImon Reynolds and B&S Message-ID: <199711131602.QAA11272@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> From the duchy of harringay a wire messenger emerged: > just been reading simon reynolds 1989(?) book > 'blissed out' and reading again about the whole > dreampop thang, and ohhh, i still like that whole > loop bit, but spacemen 3? and the excuses > reynolds makes for prog rock... hmmm. dubious. > wonder what he'd make of belle & sebastian? > Aside from 'Blissed Out', which I found fairly cheaply recently, the last thing I remember Reynolds writing was that we had had enough (too many?) fantastic songs and that what music needed was a load of noise that superceded the song (he wouldf justify such babble by going on about 'jouissance' and 'the demolition of self' and suchlike which is all very well until you realise he's doing it because, basically, he likes the Young Gods). No doubt he'd hate Belle and Sebastian for the reason that they are the best songwriters operating in the whole of pop music today. Or he'd slip into the easy stereotype of calling them twee and childlike and then bung that stuff about how the whole enterprise is the pop music version of anorexia, which I always thought was a duff argument (to broadly summarise, he said that anorexia was all about refusing one's status as an adult and the consequent pressures and responsibilities of the world; he then identified Talulah Gosh as doing the same thing). 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Nov 13 17:58:17 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:58:17 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I beg to differ References: Message-ID: <346B3FB9.74B16CEC@colon.net.> Richard Banner wrote: > Its good to talk? > ----------------- > It seems a lot of what i read on the list is of total > uninterest, with > many personalised and 'informal' groups talking between > themselves. > > I don't write much to the list because often you get what > you want to > here from a select few, even though you find yourself > reading through > pages of rubbish just for maybe a few sentences of sense. > > Remember this list is about BELLE + SEBASTIAN!!!! > > OK I'm maybe being a little bit harsh but quality before > quantity > surely. > > Things i've observed............ Lots of people use the list to relieve boredom, or whatever. I enjoy the off-topic stuff, it gives me a laugh most of the time. I've found lots of things on the list very useful, one way or another. I think it's a good thing that people don't mind a bit of rambling. Everyone knows where to draw the line, as far as I can see. The list is not just about Belle and Sebastian, it is also, by accident or design, about Belle and Sebastian fans (with computers) who I personally think are just as important as the band themselves. Sideline threads such as lemurs, stylophones, Arab Strap, etc., usually only last for a day or two before dying a natural and painless death. And as someone recently pointed out, Belle and Sebastian aren't exactly over-active at the moment. That's my opinion. I can see that some people might want the list to be purely B&S, but I don't think that's really possible. There just isn't enough to talk about, but I'll have a go: Bootlegs - a couple of months ago we were informed that Jeepster's crack team of lawyers are on the trail of some Italians for that very crime. Did anything come of it? 2 concerts - I think one or two of them have to get back to their studies at around about the same time as everyone else, so a three month tour is out of the question. This is pure speculation. It's good to have qualifications to fall back on, you ask your dad. Just out of curiosity - people at work: have you got permission to do this or are you being naughty? Back to work - churning out pages and pages of rubbish as it happens, Respectfully yours, Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 15:52:54 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 15:52:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Magic, do do dooo, moments, do do doo....la la la la laaaaa laaa! Message-ID: Did Richsay why B&S gigs in Manchester? I say why not!!! C'mon, how many times have they played down south now? Cakl me aperson with limited knowledege, but as far as I know, they have played their gigs either in Scotland or South East, its about time they came to the north! We like to listen to B&S too! Especially after a tiring night down at the whippet racing with a pint of bitter..... :) Magic B&S moment #2=the talking at the end of 'I could be dreaming'. The songs themselves are magic moments. (whoops, I nearly wrote magic mopeds...durr!) And i love 'with the boy who played bass guitar, with the boy who's wearing flares'. don't ask me why, one of those days i supose. -- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Nov 13 18:40:02 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:40:02 GMT Subject: Sinister: Moomins, not lemurs. In-Reply-To: <971112184338.n0005209.tormentor@mail.clara.net> References: <971112184338.n0005209.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <346f48ae.1163429@email.mcmail.com> This is a load of old shite, but you don't have to read it... On Wed, 12 Nov 97 18:43:38 GMT, Susannah wrote: >Inspired by Robert McTaggarts attempts with mocking up car crashes in the snow >etc. I have decided to go the whole hog and spend an evening recreating those >covers with a standard Boots camera....... Woohoo! I'm officially inspirational. Susannah, you are quite mad, but you've shown devotion above and beyond the call of duty, and are a therefore a genius and a star. All hail Susannah, Queen of the list! Actually, I reckon my photo session was more death-defying (hypothermia, hand-brakes left off - hey, it was me under the car you know, and it was Baltic out there), but I admit defeat. In the interests of good taste & public decency, I will not be trying to recreate the 'Tigermilk' sleeve, it would be truly unpleasant, even if I am rakishly handsome. And I've only got a real live cat with big claws, or my Moomin alarm clock to stand in for the Tiger. It's a very nice Moomin alarm clock, by the way, which bought in Finland and it says 'Wake up, it's a beautiful day'(only it's all in Foreign). Of course I really hate it on a Monday morning. People have said a man of my age should put away such childish things, but I say bollocks. love Tag xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 18:52:51 1997 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (SL Collins) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:52:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: In-Reply-To: Message-ID: All these sightings of various members of B&S in laundry's - how can you be sure they are really them ? Does Stuart have his name written on his undies ? I dont want to spoil any dreams, but I thought I saw Maartin Clunes the other week, but then realised that in fact it was his lookalike who had appeared on Richard and Judy during the summer. At least I think it was. Is there anyone out there who looks like a b&s member who could send me a photo so next time i wash my keks I can check it against the other washers in the shop.Please? And has anyone else heard anyone cover a B&S song ? I heard a bloke called John do "My wandering days are over" in a cafe called Victor J's in York, kind of like Thom Yorke sings Belle and Sebastian. It was a really good version and I think it would be nice to hear someone like Beth Orton do a cover or even a duet. 3...6...9...seconds, and Relax., Simon.( ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Thu Nov 13 18:57:20 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 18:57:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I beg to differ Message-ID: <346B4D90.69C6@nmrc.ucc.ie> > It seems a lot of what i read on the list is of total > uninterest, I feel a bit reminded on Holden in "The Catcher Int The Rye", when he complained that his teacher encouraged his students to shout "Off-topic" (or something down that line) when the kid who was giving a talk started to talk about something different to the self chosen subject. >Just out of curiosity - people at work: have you got permission to do >this or are you being naughty? Naughty! Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Thu Nov 13 19:44:11 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 97 19:44:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: Three things Message-ID: <971113194411.n0005313.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Three things, thats all. 1) who is it speaking on a century of Elvis? Have you all discussed this already? Anyway that Soft Scottish accent makes me go all funny if you know what I mean..........Blimey. 2) In reference to the bit on 'You made me forget my dreams' where someone says "sorry I slept in" and Stuart Murdoch sighs, aren't those just the best bits on records? The way they make you realise that the artists whose music you are so infatuated with , are normal breathing people? Other favourite moments on records: New Order 'Every Little Counts' on Brotherhood where Barney sings the line 'I think you are a pig and should live in a zoo' and starts giggling. Others please. 3) RE: pop stars in funny dreams. I have recurring dreams about being stalked by Bobby Gillespie. God knows why. Susannah. susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 19:42:07 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:42:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: SImon Reynolds and B&S References: <199711131602.QAA11272@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <346B580F.D894997@mail.zynet.co.uk> tim said that reynolds said: > what music needed was a load of > noise that superceded the song (he wouldf > justify such babble by going > on about 'jouissance' and 'the demolition of > self' and suchlike which is > all very well until you realise he's doing it > because, basically, he > likes the Young Gods). young gods. not good. not good at all... > No doubt he'd hate Belle and Sebastian > for the reason that they > are the best songwriters operating in the whole > of pop music today. yeah, he has/had a problem with singer/songwriters, didn't he? > he'd slip into the easy stereotype of calling > them twee and childlike > and then bung that stuff about how the whole > enterprise is the pop music > version of anorexia, which I always thought was > a duff argument (to > broadly summarise, he said that anorexia was > all about refusing one's > status as an adult and the consequent pressures > and responsibilities of > the world; he then identified Talulah Gosh as > doing the same thing). interesting, because what i wrote to myself just last night, whilst thinking about the manner of my own Pop Obsession in general and my personal interest in Belle & Sebastian in particular was as follows. chin up kids. the duke. what i wrote: In a pub once Tim suggested that all Great Pop is written from the perspective of being 16. Not that all Great Pop was ABOUT being 16, but rather that it encompassed a certain sense of excitement and tremulous anticipation that the IDEA of being 16 conjures in us. I find this argument seductive, just as I find seductive the idea that the moment to which we return and find each time slightly altered by the passing of our elliptical routes before we then embark on another of those roads to (inevitably) nowhere, is also rooted deeply in adolescence. Richard Hell once suggested that adolescence was the most important part of your life, and that the extent to which you stay true to the ideals you develop at that time is the extent to which you stay Alive. And I think this hits on the point I feel I currently find myself believing in more and more. Perhaps this is the eternal curse and saving grace of the Pop Generation, or at least the Pop obsessives; that the refusal to accept the responsibility of adulthood and the fact that we find Pop altering our perceptions of importance results in an ongoing obsession with a return to adolescence. That the true revolutionary spirit of Pop is not to overthrow governments and systems of media oppression through direct action, but by collusion, by exisiting in a peter pan like bubble of myopia. Perhaps, like the Mods’ pharmaceutically induced disinterest in sex, the Pop generation will grow to refuse the concept of family, will deny the importance of familial responsibility in favour of the endless song, the endless rave, the endless summer of love. One can but hope. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Thu Nov 13 19:54:39 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 19:54:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Observations of the obvious kind References: Message-ID: <346B5AFF.464FC227@mail.zynet.co.uk> > Remember this list is about BELLE + > SEBASTIAN!!!! and herein lies the eternal Pop dilemma: for what purposes do you use Pop? for what purpose do you use Belle & Sebastian? me, i'm a firm believer in the concept of Pop as personal life informant, reflector, enabler, distorter and lover. and probably a load of other things too. See i don't think belle & sebastian are about music. i don't understand music at all. in fact i might go so far as to say i hate music, and it's here where i doubtless fall foul of many people, including i don't doubt all those members of the band who just love the bloody stuff and who witter on about the music saying everything it needs to and then shutting up. actually i don't mind that so much, what i do mind is people who will only endlessly consume the facts of belle and sebastian, that are concerned with hearing only about product and what songs they played at such and such a show and what did stuart say between songs? all interesting stuff, perhaps (but only perhaps), but for me, what REALLY makes me smile and gush about the appeal of belle and sebastian is the way in which people are here openly displaying to us something of THEIR lives, of the ways in which this Pop has touched them, moved them, informed and deformed the ways in which their moments pass. long may you prosper. (although a few less posts about lemurs would be good... oh and who mentioned meerkats? the wolfhounds production team were called the meerkats, were they not? Tim?) love and slobbering kisses to anyone who deserves it. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlang at xxx.com Thu Nov 13 19:51:16 1997 From: mlang at xxx.com (Matrix) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 14:51:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Foyles bookstore... a big favor Message-ID: I need a big favor. The company I work for is trying to re-make a feature film and apparently the script is really really hard to find. I have heard it is possible to find at Foyles bookstore, but there is no way I can do this from New York. Foyles is in London I believe. If anyone is willing or can do anything to help me out, please email me and I will give you the details. I would really really appreciate it. By the way, the remake is extremely B&S related... one of their songs refers to the original and I would hope to get that very song to open the film..... all the best, steve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Nov 13 22:33:40 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 22:33:40 GMT Subject: Sinister: El Gaupo Miller, he speaks the truth... Message-ID: <346f8008.8251076@email.mcmail.com> Ok, some stuff 1 I agree with everyting Peter said about the list. OK, some things ('claims to fame' springs to mind) get out of hand, but I love these sidetracks. Susannah's photo shoots, lemurs, they break up the tedium of the working day, or are nice to see when you get home at night. Myself, I'd rather see that than pure naked facts, or psycho-analysis, but there's a place for everything whether facts, opinions, questions, anecdotes, ramblings, bollocks. Maybe we should save time for those who want to head straight for the bits they want and put special headings on the top of each message. But I read everything, some of it makes me go 'boring' or 'what the hell are you on about?', but there's a few gems every day. I reckon a love of B&S or whatever says a lot about a person, and it's nice to hear that confirmed sometimes when people get off-track. Don't you think? 2 Dreams. I had a dream once that the Manic Street Preachers were playing an accoustic set on Top of the Pops, wearing suits. They suddenly swapped their guitars for hairdryers, which they aimed at the audience and a riot ensued. I also dreamt that Henry Rollins kidnapped my best friend and we had to rescue her from a cage. I'm sure I've had Belle and Sebastian ones, but I can't remember any. I suppose I could make one up. 3 Simon Reynolds is a fool. What does he know? 4 Hey, what happened to those date announcements? Someone must know. Can't think of any records with human touches in them...I'm sure there are loads, but I'm tired and the house is cold. I can think of good talking bits in songs though. 'What colour are his eyes?' 'I dunno, he always wears shades' in 'Give him a great big kiss'. Or just about every single Lee Hazlewood record ever (Lee is God). A kiss on the elbow Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From monroej at xxx.com Fri Nov 14 01:21:00 1997 From: monroej at xxx.com (john monroe) Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 17:21:00 -0800 Subject: Sinister: El Gaupo Miller, he speaks the truth... Message-ID: <199711132321.RAA25430@mailgw00.execpc.com> . Maybe we should save time for those who want to head straight for the bits they want and put special headings on the top of each message. i thnk that is a good idea. i have no problem hitting delete a lot, but on another mailing list ( for The Fall ) people would start the subject line with "NFC" ( and at first i thought they were going to talk about the packers, cowboys and 49ers...), which mean No Fall Content. It makes life easy I guess on people who can use their computers to filter out such things, they can scan for that set of letters. maybe NBSC can be used to designate a message with zero band information, comments, or what have you? just a suggestion, carry on! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alaning at xxx.fr Thu Nov 13 23:19:31 1997 From: alaning at xxx.fr (Alan) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 00:19:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Three things Message-ID: <199711132322.AAA24734@mail2.isdnet.net> ---------- > De : susannah > A : B&S > Objet : Sinister: Three things > Date : jeudi 13 novembre 1997 20:44 > Other favourite moments on records: New Order 'Every Little Counts' on > Brotherhood where Barney sings the line 'I think you are a pig and should live > in a zoo' and starts giggling. > Others please. speaking of new order...how about the line in "your silent face" which goes "you've caught me at a bad time...so why don't you piss off?" always makes me laugh... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Fri Nov 14 09:31:21 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:31:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Message-ID: <01BCF0E0.126FF940@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Simon Collins asked: >And has anyone else heard anyone cover a B&S song ? I heard a bloke called John do "My wandering days are over" in a cafe called Victor J's in York, kind of like Thom Yorke sings Belle and Sebastian. It was a really good version and I think it would be nice to hear someone like Beth Orton do a cover or even a duet. Are you connected with the Performing Rights Society, Simon? I know of a group from the Leicester/Loughborough area (England) who once did a great live cover of 'Judy & the Dream of Horses', (but I'm sure they never received a penny for playing it!!). They've also covered the Go Betweens' 'Don't Let Him Come Back'. Slip me a fiver, and I might tell their name. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Nov 14 09:43:43 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:43:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: General Stuff Message-ID: <01BCF0E1.CBAD2080@keith@qss.co.uk> speaking of new order...how about the line in "your silent face" which goes "you've caught me at a bad time...so why don't you piss off?" always makes me laugh... [Keith Watson] That's what I was thinking too - funny line. I must say as well it's bloody impossible to speak about Belle and Sebastian all the time, all that happens is you wind up doing stupid things like having top 10 fave songs which is OK for about two or three, but 6 weeks later, especially for a band who have only 2 LP's and the majority of people have pretty similar top 10's. I do realise that it may look like a few private conversations are going on too, but anyone's free to join in - it's really part of the natural process of getting to know people. Peter's comment about the fans being just as important as the band is completely true in my eyes. Peter - got the Amon Duul tape - thanks a lot, it's well good, I've been a very bad (and tired) boy and haven't sent it off yet - I'll post it this weekend Tag - To answer some of the questions that drink got in the way of the other night - first concert : Fish (of all people - why did it have to be him), first record : Mirror man - Human League (bought "Raiders of the Pop Charts" on the same day). And what stuff do I like - long list, lets start somewhere. Beatles, Stones, Hendrix, Who, Zombies, MC5 Stooges, Floyd, Girl Groups, Marvin Gaye, James Brown, Sly Stone, Stevie Wonder, Isaac Hayes, Funkadelic, Roxy Music, David Bowie, Can, Amon Duul (now!), Eno, Television, Patti Smith, Richard Hell, Talking Heads, Blondie, Sexpistols, Clash, Stranglers, Buzzcocks, Wire, Echo+Bunnymen, Joy Division, JAMC, House of Love, House Music, Acid House, Hip hop, Trip hop (just discovered I'd pent 300 quid on mo wax records over the past few years), Massive Attack, Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, Verve, Dr.Feelgood, La's, Bob Marley, ACDC, Motorhead, Primal Scream, KLF, Talk Talk, My Bloody Valentine, Sparks, T-Rex, Suicide, Spacemen 3, Simple Minds, De La Soul, Public Enemy, DJ Shadow, Warren G, Notorious BIG, Young MC, New Order, Ultra Vivid Scene.... Christ, this is getting like the conveyor belt round in the Generation game, I'll have to stop. Susannah : Ahhaa - a "recreate Tigermilk" record sleeve, sorry I've been away for a couple of days, well, I've recreated it bar not being a girl, and not having a tiger. If you're feeling sinister's more tricky as I can hardly read, 3,6,9's especially difficult as I'm not Stuart Murdoch, oh and to answer your question it's Stuart David on A Century of Elvis. Cheers, Keith - finally recovered from the hell that was the UK's national Bill Gates conference. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Nov 14 11:15:22 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:15:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: SImon Reynolds and B&S Message-ID: <01BCF0EE.9A5DEA20@keith@qss.co.uk> In a pub once Tim suggested that all Great Pop is written from the perspective of being 16. Not that all Great Pop was ABOUT being 16, but rather that it encompassed a certain sense of excitement and tremulous anticipation that the IDEA of being 16 conjures in us. I find this argument seductive, just as I find seductive the idea that the moment to which we return and find each time slightly altered by the passing of our elliptical routes before we then embark on another of those roads to (inevitably) nowhere, is also rooted deeply in adolescence. Richard Hell once suggested that adolescence was the most important part of your life, and that the extent to which you stay true to the ideals you develop at that time is the extent to which you stay Alive. And I think this hits on the point I feel I currently find myself believing in more and more. [Keith Watson] Indeed this is a fantastic argument, responsibilities of adulthood are only there if you wish to take them - of course there are a few things there, paying bills and stuff but mainly I still feel like I'm 16 any, in fact I feel like I'm 9, I don't feel like I've ever felt any different, people constantly bombard you with the idea that you're going to grow out of stuff like this, all your life (incidentally, this is kind of what I take "everybody's trying to make us a century of fakers" to mean - or at least, this is how I like to take it). People force themselves to forget about the things they once enjoyed indeed loved, just since they feel like it doesn't fit in with the way they're expected to behave. I'm never going to grow up, I can't see it, I've been told all my life I will and I haven't yet and long may it continue. It's like the difference between feeling alive and dead. Perhaps this is the eternal curse and saving grace of the Pop Generation, or at least the Pop obsessives; that the refusal to accept the responsibility of adulthood and the fact that we find Pop altering our perceptions of importance results in an ongoing obsession with a return to adolescence. That the true revolutionary spirit of Pop is not to overthrow governments and systems of media oppression through direct action, but by collusion, by exisiting in a peter pan like bubble of myopia. Perhaps, like the Mods' pharmaceutically induced disinterest in sex, the Pop generation will grow to refuse the concept of family, will deny the importance of familial responsibility in favour of the endless song, the endless rave, the endless summer of love. [Keith Watson] Indeed I don't believe it'll ever overthrow the government, but it can do much much more - changing people's attitudes to things is one thing - to take a trivial example... Look at the telly and see how often people swear, all the time now, and then think of the uproar with the Sexpistols on the Bill Grundy show 21 years ago. The affect that these people have is far too subtle to be able to explain definitively but it's definitely there. Cheers, Keith. ps: I kind of liked Blissed Out, I think he writes well about the stuff he likes, it's more just his views on the stuff he doesn't like that are strange, well, you can't expect everyone to like everything. Having said that "The Sex Revolts" which is another Simon Reynolds book is not quite as interesting. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Fri Nov 14 11:57:59 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 12:57:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: swapping...... Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971114115759.0067cb44@student.let.uva.nl> Talking of swapping, I have a (the?) Bis record which I can't seem to get rid of in a profitable way. Anyone got anything to offer in return? Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Fri Nov 14 12:39:11 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:39:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Lemurs Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971114123911.00692c4c@student.let.uva.nl> >> I cannot find the address of this B&S plus lemurs page anymore. >> Could someone give it to me? I am extremely bored at work today. >> >> Sven > >The address you are after is: >*** http://www.reepham.demon.co.uk/index.htm *** > >So there you go! > >Rob Thankyou! I have looked in on the B&S-and-Lemurs page to see what it was like, and although I could not be connected to the B&S part I now know what them beasts are! I've seen them in the zoo! Only here in Holland they are called "Ringstaartmaki". Not that you wanted to know..... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Fri Nov 14 12:50:00 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:50:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Observations of the obvious kind Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971114125000.00680050@student.let.uva.nl> At 07:54 PM 11/13/97 +0000, you wrote: >> Remember this list is about BELLE + >> SEBASTIAN!!!! > the duke: >and herein lies the eternal Pop dilemma: for what >purposes do you use Pop? for what purpose do you >use Belle & Sebastian? me, i'm a firm believer in >the concept of Pop as personal life informant, >reflector, enabler, distorter and lover. and >probably a load of other things too. See i don't >think belle & sebastian are about music. i don't >understand music at all. in fact i might go so >far as to say i hate music, and it's here where i >doubtless fall foul of many people, including i >don't doubt all those members of the band who just >love the bloody stuff and who witter on about the >music saying everything it needs to and then >shutting up. actually i don't mind that so much, >what i do mind is people who will only endlessly >consume the facts of belle and sebastian, that are >concerned with hearing only about product and what >songs they played at such and such a show and what >did stuart say between songs? all interesting >stuff, perhaps (but only perhaps), but for me, >what REALLY makes me smile and gush about the >appeal of belle and sebastian is the way in which >people are here openly displaying to us something >of THEIR lives, of the ways in which this Pop has >touched them, moved them, informed and deformed >the ways in which their moments pass. > >long may you prosper. (although a few less posts >about lemurs would be good... oh and who mentioned >meerkats? the wolfhounds production team were >called the meerkats, were they not? Tim?) > >love and slobbering kisses to anyone who deserves >it. Hear, hear! Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 14 11:45:54 1997 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:45:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: football Message-ID: <000288F4.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> >I didn't want to admit this before but I am feeling, for the first time < in rather a while, proud to actually be a Hearts fan and < even worse a shareholder ( novelty Xmas present from a < fanatic father). Wahey!! top of the league!!. What's even < better is that I live with a Rangers fan. Jesus, Claire. That's brutal! < This is terrible, I'm getting excited < about football. I'm well and truly bored........... < Claire. <" My toes can talk and they're smiling at me" - isn't that such a good lyric? YES! My favourite ever Galaxie 500 song. I used to play it first thing in the morning and then again last thing at night for ----------about four years. Then I got the box set last year and I'm doing it all over again! The Archdeacon of Pop. ------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.230) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00027CC4; Thu, 13 Nov 97 14:53:29 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA09456 for sinister-outgoing; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:56:10 GMT Received: from dux2.tcd.ie (dux2.tcd.ie [134.226.1.12]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA09452 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:56:08 GMT Received: from [134.226.28.201] (mac01ab.4066.pclab.tcd.ie [134.226.28.201]) by dux2.tcd.ie (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18579 for ; Thu, 13 Nov 1997 12:57:17 GMT X-Sender: timminsc at mail.tcd.ie Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 13:58:10 +0100 To: sinister at majordomo.net From: Claire Timmins Subject: Sinister: Re: football Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Claire Timmins From rod at xxx.net Fri Nov 14 13:18:44 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:18:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: swapping...... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971114115759.0067cb44@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: On Fri, 14 Nov 1997, Eeyore wrote: > Talking of swapping, I have a (the?) Bis record which I can't seem to get > rid of in a profitable way. Anyone got anything to offer in return? > Eeyore Which one? AFAIK, the "rare" Transmissions On A Teen-C Tip is fairly easy to come by. I got mine for three quid. And it's shite. The version of Kill Yr Boyfriend has Manda Rin trying to sing, instead of just squeaking like she normally does. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Halaska: n. The boxed area on a US map where the 49th and 50th states | are located ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Fri Nov 14 13:31:12 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:31:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: swapping...... Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971114133112.00692fd4@student.let.uva.nl> Eeyore wrote: >> Talking of swapping, I have a (the?) Bis record which I can't seem to get >> rid of in a profitable way. Anyone got anything to offer in return? Rod Begbie wrote: >Which one? AFAIK, the "rare" Transmissions On A Teen-C Tip is fairly easy >to come by. I got mine for three quid. And it's shite. The version of >Kill Yr Boyfriend has Manda Rin trying to sing, instead of just squeaking >like she normally does. I dunno! Just the proper album of Bis (there is only one, isn't there?), I've forgotten what it's called. I've listened to it, what, maybe three times? But I guess if you've got all that stuff you've already got it. Ne'er mind. Oh, and I once saw Manda and Sci-Fi Steve stuffing themselves in a Dutch chippy across the road from the venue where they had played the first night of a two-night festival. All they did that second night was sit in that chippy and eat..... no wonder Manda's so chubby! Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Fri Nov 14 13:29:09 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:29:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: NB&SC - Ringstaartmaki Message-ID: <01BCF101.4AE4C820@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> >Thankyou! I have looked in on the B&S-and-Lemurs page to see what it was like, and although I could not be connected to the B&S part I now know what them beasts are! I've seen them in the zoo! Only here in Holland they are called "Ringstaartmaki". Not that you wanted to know..... Eeyore, is that Dutch for "Ring-tailed-lemur", or just a generic name for lemurs? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Fri Nov 14 13:41:26 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 13:41:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: pop life, sixteen, a little footy and meerkats Message-ID: <199711141340.NAA20547@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > the duke wrote: > what i do mind is people who will only endlessly > consume the facts of belle and sebastian, that are > concerned with hearing only about product and what > songs they played at such and such a show and what > did stuart say between songs? all interesting > stuff, perhaps (but only perhaps), but for me, > what REALLY makes me smile and gush about the > appeal of belle and sebastian is the way in which > people are here openly displaying to us something > of THEIR lives, of the ways in which this Pop has > touched them, moved them, informed and deformed > the ways in which their moments pass. > [HopkinsT] It's pop's great unsolved paradox. Those amongst us whose lives are tied up and turned inside out by pop, who love it for itself and for what it does on a personal level and who use it as some kind of abstract yardstick to judge what's right and wrong in the wider world (and there are those of us who do), those amongst us know the power of pop. But we also know that we are consumers and customers, that pop is there as a part of, and because of (and also in spite of) what makes the world such a crap place so much of the time. That pop can turn us against what it draws us into. And that it tells us what it's doing. I'm not saying pop can replace politics. Plainly it can't. But my politics are, and have always been, informed by pop. By the rush of freedom and expression which I felt when I was sixteen and which even now Belle and Sebastian give me... >In a pub once Tim suggested that all Great Pop is written from the perspective of being 16. Not that all Great Pop was ABOUT being 16, but rather that it encompassed a certain sense of excitement and tremulous anticipation that the IDEA of being 16 conjures in us. [HopkinsT] Ah, the pub conversation, the highest form of discourse known to humanity, eh duke? One of my hobbies has long been to draw up definitions of what is pop and what is rock. This is one of my favourites. If it doesn't address (in some way) the matter of being, feeling, sixteen, it ain't pop. It's something else. Rock, often, but not always. Because pop opens for us such a sense of possibility, such an opportuntiy for re-inventing and re-understanding ourselves, and sixteen is (arbitrarily) an age when those possibilities are (should be?) there in our lives, before we get tied down too far into personal history and so on. At sixteen, I felt life whistling along at an amazing pace, wanted to catch it in my hands just for a moment, like you want to catch a popsong, when shit's proper. Excuse me, enough confessionals. Anyone travelling further than me to see a game of football this weekend? I'm going 300-350 miles for Exeter vs Northampton. Yep, duke, some early Wolfhounds records were sleeved by the Meerkats (and 'Cruelty' had another cute big-eared beastie on it, didn't it?), and very lovely they were. Cheerio all who've had the endurance to get this far. 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We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 14 14:01:56 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:01:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fever Pitch! Message-ID: <199711141406.OAA02148@orange.easynet.co.uk> Blimey! There I was going along to Salon online magazine (www.salonmagazine.com) for my weekly fix of Camille Paglia's advice column, when who should I come across raving about our favourite pop-kids, but Nick Hornby! I've attached the full piece for the benefit of those of you without browsers... it's a bit long, and he takes a while to get around to B&S, but it's a lovely review. I might even read one of his books now.. Gosh, but Britain's got loud all of a sudden. You can hardly hear yourself think at the moment, amidst the sounds of crashing and banging and weeping and wailing and self-proclamation and accusation and electric guitars. The noise started on May 1st, when Tony Blair was elected Prime Minister: Blair's landslide victory changed the national mood literally overnight. The raucous celebrations lasted well into the summer, and even Britain's notoriously conservative national press -- somewhat perversely, given how much work they had put in to preserve John Major's exhausted, deeply unpopular and increasingly sleazy party -- started tapping its toes discreetly in the corner, like moms and dads at the end of rock'n'roll films. Blair's approval rating shot through the roof, and Britain suddenly discovered that, contrary to all our suspicions, we were a young country, brimful of talent and vision and energy. Those of us who had got used to the idea that we were an awful, senile country, full of reactionary old farts who hadn't read a novel in 30 years and who still disapproved of the length of Ringo's hair, couldn't take the pace. By July, I felt like I wanted to stop partying and go and have a sit-down. But there was no let-up. Our cricket and football teams began the summer by winning handsomely and unexpectedly, victories for which Tony Blair seemed obscurely responsible -- something to do with young people being better than old people at sports, presumably. The Oasis album came out amidst a great deal of ear-splitting ballyhoo, and Noel Gallagher was one of the first to be invited to 10 Downing Street for one of Blair's occasional artsy parties, another indication of fundamental change: The only rock 'n' roller that the previous administration had been able to invite to parties was Andew Lloyd Webber. (Lloyd Webber, incidentally, made vague threats about leaving the country in the event of a Labour victory, a threat that may well have been responsible for the size of Blair's majority, but scandalously he never went anywhere, as far as we know.) And then, of course, there was the Diana thing, about which there is only one observation I wish to make here: Whatever else it was or wasn't, it was certainly loud. Sometimes you get the impression that we have turned ourselves into one huge braying mob, bursting with nervous energy and Adrenalin, looking for an excuse to make even more noise than we are already making. Recently, as another Salon correspondent noted, it was poor Louise Woodward who got the treatment. I've been listening to Belle and Sebastian, a ramshackle, cute and only occasionally fey folk-pop band who have spent the summer releasing four-track EPs with quirky names and classy sleeves: "Dog On Wheels," "Lazy Line-Painter Jane," "3, 6, 9 Seconds of Light." Belle and Sebastian have not, as far as I am aware, described themselves as "the best fooking (sic) band in the world," unlike the rest of their peers, and nor should they: A recent sold-out show I saw in London was a shambles, and to this member of the audience an irritating, as opposed to adorable, shambles. One of the support acts was a rambling and very drunk poet, and the boys and girls themselves took their own sweet time tuning up and messing about between each number. It took a good five minutes before they deigned to play anything at all. But quirkiness is a much rarer commodity in this new, brash Britain than it was. We used to be rather good at it -- generally, we took the view that if we couldn't compete with the Yanks properly, then we'd refuse to play the game by acting daft. This new Brit feistiness, however, has meant that everyone wants a shot at the mainstream: Self-confidence is in, and self-deprecating charm is out -- almost. Luckily, Belle and Sebastian have charm in glorious abundance, and "A Century of Elvis," the last track on the new "Lazy Line-Painter Jane" EP, is surely the most charmed you'll be all year. "A Century of Elvis" is in effect a short story, spoken in broad Scottish over a gorgeous, aching, jingle-jangle guitar and a couple of tootling organ notes; the story is about a period in the narrator's life when Elvis -- the very famous one -- visited him in his flat every evening. It's one of those rare pieces of work that you love partly because you have no idea where it came from: I haven't heard much recently that describes Elvis poking around a post office van, apparently contemplating whether to drive it away. It's the accumulation of detail that makes the track -- there's actually some deceptively fine writing going on here, although the band probably wouldn't thank me for pointing it out. In one passage the narrator wonders whether it was Elvis' love for squirrels that attracted him to their particular leafy suburb; another concerns the great man's impassive consumption of a video entitled the 'The E-Files," about unlikely Presley sightings. You end up smiling at the simple joy taken in picking up an idea and running with it -- if you can make anything out in the mix, which is, needless to say, pretty crappy. Oh, and if you love the tune but get tired of the story, the jingle-jangle is recycled for "A Century of Fakers," the song that kicks off "3, 6, 9 Seconds of Light." Maybe you have to be living here to appreciate just how welcome this kind of egoless homecooked whimsy is at the moment, but if you've heard the Oasis album, or seen the mass Disteria on TV, you can probably guess. Me, I'm going to sit the New Britain out with a couple of Belle and Sebastian EPs and a good book; it won't be long before we turn back into ourselves again. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------- The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Fri Nov 14 14:29:05 1997 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 09:29:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: People covering B&S Message-ID: <01BCF0DF.C1831DA0@n150.natureny.com> I have heard, through the grapevine, that the boy from Holiday who is playing solo does a cover of "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying." My friend, JimB and I think that's scandalous, that singing the line "nobody writes them like they used to/so it might as well be me" is somehow wrong. Maybe that's just my feelings about Holiday (sleep-ING) shining through. Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From d91-cni at xxx.se Fri Nov 14 14:43:55 1997 From: d91-cni at xxx.se (Christer Nilsson) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 15:43:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: People covering B&S References: <01BCF0DF.C1831DA0@n150.natureny.com> Message-ID: <346C63AB.6166577F@nada.kth.se> Paige Rosella wrote: > > I have heard, through the grapevine, that the boy from Holiday who is playing solo does a cover of "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying." My friend, JimB and I think that's scandalous, that singing the line "nobody writes them like they used to/so it might as well be me" is somehow wrong. his name is josh gennet, performing solo as 'the singletons'. -christer ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com Fri Nov 14 14:28:02 1997 From: Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com (Angelina.DeGiovanni at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 10:28:02 -0400 Subject: Sinister: People covering B&S Message-ID: <8525654F.00546AF7.00@v2music.com> I saw him perform the song last winter at The Fez in New York opening up for either The Divine Comedy, Momus, or the Magnetic Fields- I can't remember exactly. It was before IYFS came out domestically on the Enclave, so I think only a few knew the orginial B&S version. It was nowhere near as good as the b&s version, but it was so nice just to hear the song at a show. (Embedded image moved prosella @ grovestocktn.com to file: 11/14/97 09:29 AM PIC24158.PCX) Please respond to prosella at grovestocktn.com To: sinister at majordomo.net cc: (bcc: Angelina DeGiovanni/New_York/V2 Music) Subject: Sinister: People covering B&S I have heard, through the grapevine, that the boy from Holiday who is playing solo does a cover of "Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying." My friend, JimB and I think that's scandalous, that singing the line "nobody writes them like they used to/so it might as well be me" is somehow wrong. Maybe that's just my feelings about Holiday (sleep-ING) shining through. Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Fri Nov 14 16:13:25 1997 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 11:13:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Spotting Message-ID: <01BCF0EE.546ACF60@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> While Engineering for London Calling, British music radio show on WMBR Cambridge, one of the pledgers from West Newton MA said he picked up a copy in London last December. Doesn't know shit about when it was released though. Was trying to explain to me how they released it four years ago. Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul.Dean at xxx.uk Fri Nov 14 16:30:19 1997 From: Paul.Dean at xxx.uk (Paul Dean) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:30:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Compilation LP Message-ID: Sorry to go on topic, but does anyone (Katrina) know any more about the proposed US compilation of the past 3 singles. If it's released in chronological order, the 2 'century' songs would be next to each other. I'm not too sure it this wouldn't start to annoy pretty quickly. Any way tis all for now. trainspottingly yours Paul (looking for a fox in the first Boston snow - nice) does this count as snow Matt/Kristen!? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 14 21:47:04 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 16:47:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Observations2 - The Explanation Message-ID: In reference to my last email...... I don't want to dig a hole for myself.... i do feel that a lot of what i said was harsh and looking back i recognise this. The reason i sent 'that' mail to the list was because i was fed up of reading through masses of mail (not just B+S) and finding little of interest. Ok it was a bad day but i recognise that like some have commented i should have got ready with my delete button. I do feel however that some form of 'header' identifying mail content would be useful. Any ideas anyone? I don't just want pure B+S facts(i know that would be painful) but i'm sure some can agree that a lot of the mail is not always for them and this is why i mention maybe the use of headers. Further apologies, don't want to offend but i had a shitty day and shouldn't have taken it out on the list. Rich Oh and by the way i have nothing against Manchester or the North. The question 'Why Manchester?' could have simply been 'Why not Liverpool? or Why not Carlisle? I was just curious. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Fri Nov 14 17:10:16 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 17:10:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fever Pitch! References: <199711141406.OAA02148@orange.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <346C85F7.945BB2B7@mail.zynet.co.uk> stephen troussé wrote: > Blimey! There I was going along to Salon online > magazine > (www.salonmagazine.com) for my weekly fix of > Camille Paglia's advice > column, when who should I come across raving > about our favourite pop-kids, > but Nick Hornby! nick hornby epitomises, to me, all that is wrong with modern british culture. perhaps. actually, i just made that up because i don't like his books. probably because one was about soccer and the other (he's only had 2, right?) was crap. i couldn't finish it even, it annoyed me so much. oh well. and ha ha ha, hornby actually thought 'century of elvis' was about THAT elvis! hee hee. obviously no-one told him about the cat/brocolli debate... off to the country for the weekend. away from the machine for a whole two days nearly... gulp. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From suchgranddesigns at xxx.com Sat Nov 15 01:06:49 1997 From: suchgranddesigns at xxx.com (sick, sober and sorry) Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 20:06:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: NB&SC popdreams References: <199711121627.QAA11733@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <19971114.211240.12518.0.SuchGrandDesigns@juno.com> On Thu, 13 Nov 1997 11:22:34 +0100 Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta writes: >B&S bit. After months of trying, I finally had a Belle and >Sebastian dream! It was a concert and they sounded >completely different. People from the audience were invited >up on stage to play the glockenspiel. Stuart Murdoch showed >me his underpants (I don't know why). They were turquoise >bikini bottoms. you spent months trying to have B&S dreams?? is this very much like trying to have a baby? :) popdreams are always funny that way aren't they? i used to have them quite often and they were a bit odd as well. i had one about being in grammar school with a pint-sized john power and all us girls made fun of him in the lunch line singing silly rhymes about his surname! he was a wee thing and got mighty embarrassed. i also had a few involving concerts in barns with sawdust and wooden benches (!) and one about meeting martin rossiter and bringing him vitamin C tablets so he wouldn't fall ill on tour! jillian. xx ******************************************* your lovely daydreams from the back of youth you metamorphised and then off they flew - The Ocean Blue, "Crash" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From LilWhirl at xxx.com Sat Nov 15 22:25:37 1997 From: LilWhirl at xxx.com (LilWhirl at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 17:25:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: TIGERMILK REGISTER: this is frustrating Message-ID: <971115172536_162421511@mrin47> In a message dated 97-11-11 06:57:12 EST, it was written: << I heard a conversation in a CD shop recently to the effect that a radio station in Danbury CT, USA had a vinyl copy of Tigermilk -- when this woman went in to tape it, it was missing from where it had been the week before. So we can assume there is a person of dubious honesty with a copy somewhere in Connecticut. >> this is true of a number of stations -- my alma mater also had the exact same theft over the summer. at least i got to tape and play it over the air prior to my departure.... honestly i think this attempt to locate copies of this record by nitpicking is giving me a headache. not that the obsession is unjustifiable... dina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TFertig3 at xxx.com Sat Nov 15 22:48:38 1997 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 17:48:38 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Dog on Wheels Message-ID: <971115174836_2093842488@mrin40.mail.aol.com> I was just visiting my sister in NY and i bought Dog on Wheels at Other Music! It is really good, but no where near as good as Sinister. I like Dog on Wheels the best, and then String Bean Jean. They only had Dog on Wheels and Sinister, though. I thought I would have to decide between 3, 6, 9, lazy Line Painter jane, and Dog on Wheels. Oh well. I'm happy! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Sat Nov 15 23:25:17 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 18:25:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: [Fwd: Indie Pop Sound Scans] Message-ID: <346E2F5D.5A9A@interaccess.com> I pulled this off the indiepop list. Surprised? I am. It's a third the amount Stereolab has sold, and they're doing pretty well on their tour with nine people on the bus. I guess it's just a matter of getting label support [and getting them out of the house :) ]. TweeKid at aol.com wrote: > > As I have done from time to time, for no reason but to pass on the > information, here are the most recent sound scan numbers on some of our > favorit releases. Sound Scans are based on sales in American only and > generally from major stores like Tower, HMV, Coconuts you get the idea chain > stores and a limited number of small "mom and pops". > (snip) > Belle & Sebastian "If You're Feeling Sinister" 9,769 (slice) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sun Nov 16 03:39:34 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 03:39:34 GMT Subject: Sinister: "It's never too late to have a second childhood" In-Reply-To: <01BCF0EE.9A5DEA20@keith@qss.co.uk> References: <01BCF0EE.9A5DEA20@keith@qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <346e662f.101303@email.mcmail.com> It's funny, this whole pop music/adolescence thing. Obviously there's a world of difference between 'growing up' and 'growing old', and to some extent between 'childish' and 'childlike'. I'll accept growing up, I'll accept having to work, pay bills, keeping the house OK, the whole package of adulthood. What I'll refuse to accept until the day I die, is this idea of certain things being out of bounds once you're 25. Things you're supposed to do - buying state-of-the-art hi-fi, when you only have Chris de Burgh records. I'm not on a trail to recapture my lost youth, I'm still living it, every week brings a whole bunch of new records to hear, to buy, to drown myself in and I don't think that feeling will ever go away. It's the whole death of enthusiasm, I simply can't accept. I don't feel 16, I don't feel 46. I just feel alive. Three little anecdotes leap to mind: 1 My father read 'Catcher in the Rye' when he was 48. He loved it. 2 Talking to my cousin from Perth (aged 18) at my sister's wedding and asking him what sort of music he liked. 'Aww, you won't have heard of them, they're called Belle and Sebastian'. When I said 'Oh I love them', he was astonished 'but you're 30, you should be listening to jazz'. 3 Working away for a week with an ex-Navy captain, going out for a beer with him and him talking about opera, an art form that leaves me cold, frankly, and being enraptured by this middle aged guy's enthusiasm for the music he loved. I don't know why I mention these things, they just seemed relevant. I'm off to see the Pastels, cheerio Love Tag xxx PS And for those who you don't see the link between football and Belle and Sebastian, someone I know, a devoted Port Vale fan, got, for his birthday, a photo of Vale scoring, with the lyrics to 'Like Dylan and the Movies' emblazoned over the top. 'You're worth the trouble and you're worth the pain...I will love you over'. And even though they beat us last week, it is still a beautiful and heartfelt thing.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Sun Nov 16 09:37:06 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 09:37:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: some content for once Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971116093706.00692994@mail.u-net.com> Hullo! I might have asked this once before, can't remember if anyone replied to it though, could have been on the coollist version of this.. the name Belle and Sebastian, I know everyone goes on about that kids tv show from the seventies etc etc But I am sure that when they did a Mark Radcliffe session last year one of them said that the name comes from Beauty and the Beast, the two leading characters in that being Belle (the Beauty) and Sebastian (the Beast, obviously). Anyone else heard this or did I make this up? There, some completely relevant B&S content at last. JJ x ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Sun Nov 16 11:06:24 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 97 11:06:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: freaky B&S occurence Message-ID: <971116110624.n0005424.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Two people off the mailing list bumped into each other on Friday evening purely by chance and here's the story. Does anyone remember the mail from the guy wanting the screenplay of the loneliness of the long distance runner from Foyles in London? Well, I said I'd have a look for him on my way home from work one day, so just before closing time I spent half an hour browsing through the Drama section, and if you've ever been to Foyles you'd know what a haphard system they have , and compounded with a VERY unhelpful assistant I was having a devil of a job trying to find it. I was just getting ready to give up, when this other customer appeared , passed a piece of paper to the assistant, who then pointed at me and said "we haven't got it , and SHE'S looking for the exact same thing" I looked at him and he looked at me, and I said "did you get it off the mailing list?" to which he replied "Belle and Sebastian?" then he added " I'm Steve (Trouss) and who are you?" As soon as I said my name was Susannah, he said "did you really mock up those covers?" referring to the post I sent earlier this week , and I had visions of him, and everyone else in the shop imagining me doing Tigermilk, so I went really red and couldn't think of anything to say after that. He wouldn't let it lie though, and mentioned it a good two or three times. Well, we got kicked out of the shop, and I was JUST about to ask him if he wanted to go for a quick drink , when I got all flustered and ran all the way to the bus stop. So, Steve, I've mailed you also, but I apologise for seeming so rude. That's all. Susannahxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Nov 16 15:11:27 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 15:11:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester?!? Ink Polaroids, folly of a girls empty mind, the usual Message-ID: <1i5xUIAf0wb0Ew15@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Please!!!! When are the gigs in Manchester..(sarah collapses on the floor in desperation)....please, say they are happening, say its true! (sarah flings herself on the bed weeping trying to look like Vivien leigh but supspecting she looks like a prat) I have just listened to Tigermilk. Three times (thank you so much Steve!) and.....its quite good isn't it! I loved the electronica (TM) influences on Electronic Renaissance! Aren't ink polaroids great! (thank you again steve!) I've been taking them all the time. I took one at college of the rain falling and bouncing off all the cars, which was quite good. I'm thinking of taking one of myself, sending it to the list, and everyone could send one so we know what we look like? What do you think? feedback....! (i sound like a middle manager don't i? sorry.) Another reason why I love B&S, they bring something beautiful and lovely into the mundanity and confusion of my life. My life seems ugly and messy, but B&S make it pretty ,they calm me. Skating a pirourette on ice...is cool, I love that line. Skating a pirouette on ice is also bloody lethal (i have tried) but its a nice effort. hywl! -- Sarah (who is a bit depressed. You wouldn't want to see an ink polaroid of me now!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Smundy97 at xxx.com Sun Nov 16 17:59:45 1997 From: Smundy97 at xxx.com (Smundy97 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 12:59:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Elvis/Fakers Message-ID: <971116125944_1637496824@mrin41.mail.aol.com> Various people at various times have mentioned Century of Fakers being a rehash of Century of Elvis (fair enough, one of these was Nick Hornby, and what would he know!!!), and I don't want to sound like a trainspotter, but ... ... has anyone else noticed that if you listen VERY VERY carefully to Elvis, you can hear the words to Fakers being sung after the intro and before the spoken word bit begins - as if the mics on the instruments are picking up some of the vocals, despite the fact that they've been dubbed out -- if you see what I mean. Is that conclusive evidence that Elvis is a rehash of Fakers, and not the other way round? Also, why would Century of Elvis be called Century of Elvis if not for the fact that is is a different version of Century of Fakers. Now, going off-topic (BURN ME!! HANG ME!! STONE ME!!) - Galaxie 500's On Fire has other lyrical gems, as well as the one about "shoes talking to me" - but I can't remember any at the moment - will listen to it later and report back .... Re: the heated debate about sarah records earlier on, why doesn't someone set up a mailing list specifically for this (er, don't look at me, I've just about worked out how to send e-mail) and what's with Shinkansen - the only thing I've seen on the label is the marvellous Trembling Blue Stars LP - anyone know? - mind you, half of you lot probably work for them/have slept with them/ had a punch-up with them on a barge in Bristol ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Sun Nov 16 19:06:38 1997 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: 16 Nov 1997 19:06:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: Trembling Blue Stars In-Reply-To: <971116125944_1637496824@mrin41.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <68DC7748.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> > Re: the heated debate about sarah records earlier on, why doesn't someone set > up a mailing list specifically for this (er, don't look at me, I've just > about worked out how to send e-mail) and what's with Shinkansen - the only > thing I've seen on the label is the marvellous Trembling Blue Stars LP - > anyone know? - mind you, half of you lot probably work for them/have slept > with them/ had a punch-up with them on a barge in Bristol Well on the Tweenet web pages as well as lots of Belle & Sebastian stuff there's plenty on Sarah/Shinkansen, along with details of certain list members shady pasts as fanzine writers/record label failures :o) Join their mailing list, they'd love a good sarah debate on there. Someplace this week I saw a mention for the Trembling Blue Stars album with the tag line that if that special person in your life has got "If You're Feeling Sinister" buy them the Trembling Blue Stars album for xmas. Not sure about that advice myself East River Pipe being much better. Maybe we could launch the perfect album for xmas present thread now? Or judging by the last week perfect small rat like animal for xmas? :o) Actually buy people gift vouchers for xmas as they're the gift that keeps on giving apparently? There was a new Trembling Blue Stars single last week but ignore that buy the Arab Strap remix of David Holmes. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 16 19:39:21 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:39:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: NB&SC - xmas presents In-Reply-To: <68DC7748.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > Someplace this week I saw a mention for the Trembling Blue Stars album > with the tag line that if that special person in your life has got "If > You're Feeling Sinister" buy them the Trembling Blue Stars album for > xmas. Not sure about that advice myself East River Pipe being much > better. Maybe we could launch the perfect album for xmas present > thread now? I reckon it's normally best to buy people compilations for xmas. If the person really likes a band, they'll already own their albums; if they're not sure, or have never heard of the band in question, you can buy them a greatest hits album, because that way they'll get to get a good idea of what the band are really like, and are free to investigate further if they want to. Maybe Sparks / Nick Drake / Housemartins? > Actually buy people gift vouchers for xmas as they're the gift that > keeps on giving apparently? Ah, gift vouchers are so good, they allow you to buy anything in that shop. So much more convenient than giving people those old fashioned banknotes, which can only be used in, like, every shop in the country... Stuart G P.S. Still waiting for those compo results... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 16 19:39:21 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sun, 16 Nov 1997 19:39:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: NB&SC - xmas presents In-Reply-To: <68DC7748.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > Someplace this week I saw a mention for the Trembling Blue Stars album > with the tag line that if that special person in your life has got "If > You're Feeling Sinister" buy them the Trembling Blue Stars album for > xmas. Not sure about that advice myself East River Pipe being much > better. Maybe we could launch the perfect album for xmas present > thread now? I reckon it's normally best to buy people compilations for xmas. If the person really likes a band, they'll already own their albums; if they're not sure, or have never heard of the band in question, you can buy them a greatest hits album, because that way they'll get to get a good idea of what the band are really like, and are free to investigate further if they want to. Maybe Sparks / Nick Drake / Housemartins? > Actually buy people gift vouchers for xmas as they're the gift that > keeps on giving apparently? Ah, gift vouchers are so good, they allow you to buy anything in that shop. So much more convenient than giving people those old fashioned banknotes, which can only be used in, like, every shop in the country... Stuart G P.S. Still waiting for those compo results... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Nov 17 09:40:04 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 09:40:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Elvis/Fakers Message-ID: <01BCF33C.C8F3CEE0@keith@qss.co.uk> ... has anyone else noticed that if you listen VERY VERY carefully to Elvis, you can hear the words to Fakers being sung after the intro and before the spoken word bit begins - as if the mics on the instruments are picking up some of the vocals, despite the fact that they've been dubbed out -- if you see what I mean. [Keith Watson] They've been playing A Century of Fakers for far longer than the concept of ink polaroids has been around - or at least certainly was made public, and certainly long before they ever played A Century of Elvis live. I'd have thought it'd have been Elvis that they would have played had it been the other way around. They were also both recorded at the same time. ps : T.Hopkins - hope you like the fancy formatting in this letter (noticed you're using MS Outlook as your mailer!) Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.Haggett at xxx.uk Mon Nov 17 12:04:23 1997 From: R.Haggett at xxx.uk (Ricky HAGGETT) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:04:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: An Ink(?) Polaroid Message-ID: <991.879768263@cs.ucl.ac.uk> Thinking of Sarah's ink polaroid of rain and cars.. A creased photo of Ricky standing at the entrace to Euston Square Tube station as commutors pour around him into their busy lives. He is gazing through the smog and drizzle down Gower Street, towards college and normality, BT's Telecom Tower, well, towering above everything, cutting a swathe of gaudy colour through the hues of mottled grey like nothing else in sight. Ricky wears tatty jeans, the blue cartoon Belle and Sebastian t-shirt (that his girlfriend ordered him for his birthday from the web site at fantastically short notice - cheers), and a somewhat dejected expression. His hair is damp and he looks kinda like the boy on the t-shirt. He turns away from the rush of traffic, and trudges back down the stairs into the tube, turning his walkman up to drown the noise of trains. The intro to Photo Jenny glides effortlessly up into the street. Ricky (who is at college, a bit depressed, and who still thinks seventeen was a better age to be) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iles at xxx.uk Mon Nov 17 12:27:49 1997 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:27:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk/Mark Radcliffe Message-ID: Dear list, Please, please, please, would anyone be willing to copy Tigermilk for me? Also, has anyone got a copy of their first Mark Radcliffe session. I can trade for the second Mark Radcliffe session or their Evening Session. I live in Leeds, so does anyone round here have copies? Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2064573 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James' University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ Understand that you are another world in miniature and that in you there are the sun, the moon and also stars Laetitia Sadier ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PMA97CW at xxx.uk Mon Nov 17 12:38:45 1997 From: PMA97CW at xxx.uk (Chris Worth) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:38:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Er, Belle & Sebastian... Message-ID: <8C48644597@derwent.shef.ac.uk> The start of a another working week... Anyway, favourite B&S moments... 1. Getting scared when Monica Queen first starts singing on Lazy Line..., but then realising that it actually sounds really good. 2. Reading the sleeve notes to ...Sinister on the back cover, thanking people in order of rudeness, starting with the most foul-mouthed!! 3. Right at the end of 3, 6, 9..., "Belle and Sebastian / on the radio / playing songs for children". I can't quite make out the next line, but it sounds a bit like "B&S / on the radio / playing songs for lunatics"???!!, which, if true, would be quite hilarious!! 4. The last line of Century of Elvis... "I used to think my dad was Elvis, but I haven't told him yet; I haven't told my dad either...". Cue guffaw. 5. That the gigs are in Manchester! Hurrah!! I must go and visit the B&S web pages; I haven't been there for quite a long time. Well, not since last week... Chris. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 17 13:26:33 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:26:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester?!? Ink Polaroids, folly of a girls empty mind, the usual References: <1i5xUIAf0wb0Ew15@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <34704609.4279@virgin.net> Sarah wrote: > > Please!!!! > > When are the gigs in Manchester..(sarah collapses on the floor in > desperation)....please, say they are happening, say its true! (sarah > flings herself on the bed weeping trying to look like Vivien leigh but > supspecting she looks like a prat) Bloody hell you lot are persistent!!! The gigs ARE CONFIRMED (so don't wory, they're not going to pull out), and they will be on the 27th and 28th of December. I will announce the venue and ticket details probably Wed/Thurs, but I promise all of you and all the people on the fan-club snail-mail list will have first dibs on the tickets, as there will not be a press release or ads for the public until next week. Please be patient??? Cheers, Katrina. oh, and thanks to the Duke and Laura and Shelley and Ninette and anyone who I forgot for the lovely birthday wishes ... they were much appreciated and I had a great day - 'cept for the homesickness :( love me. xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 17 13:26:36 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:26:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Compilation LP References: Message-ID: <3470460C.2384@virgin.net> Paul Dean wrote: > > Sorry to go on topic, but does anyone (Katrina) know any more about the > proposed US compilation of the past 3 singles. This compilation LP will not be released until at least Spring next year, and all we were told it would feature is songs off the summer EP's (minus the Dog EP) plus some more tracks ... and that's all I know! Cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Mon Nov 17 13:55:37 1997 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (hc97st at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:55:37 GMT Subject: Sinister: bye for now Message-ID: <199711171355.NAA19842@aether.cms.dmu.ac.uk> Just to say that I'm leaving the list for a short time. Simon Tyers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 972286231 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 17 16:37:22 1997 From: 972286231 at xxx.uk (MR NICK SANT) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 16:37:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: Elvis/Fakers In-Reply-To: <971116125944_1637496824@mrin41.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: > Various people at various times have mentioned Century of Fakers being a > rehash of Century of Elvis (fair enough, one of these was Nick Hornby, and > what would he know!!!), and I don't want to sound like a trainspotter, but > ... > ... has anyone else noticed that if you listen VERY VERY carefully to Elvis, > you can hear the words to Fakers being sung after the intro and before the > spoken word bit begins - as if the mics on the instruments are picking up > some of the vocals, despite the fact that they've been dubbed out -- if you > see what I mean. > Is that conclusive evidence that Elvis is a rehash of Fakers, and not the > other way round? > Also, why would Century of Elvis be called Century of Elvis if not for the > fact that is is a different version of Century of Fakers. > The best proof i reckon, would be that the song structure of CofF fits far better than CofE. The bits with harmonies sound as if the song had originally been written as CofF. But, i can't be sure because some so-called friend of mine has run off back to University with my CD's of IYFS, DonW & LLPJ. Take Care, Love & Rage, Nick. (972286231 at 97.lincoln.ac.uk) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Mon Nov 17 17:20:06 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 17:20:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Er, Belle & Sebastian... References: <8C48644597@derwent.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34707CC5.B0CF44CF@mail.zynet.co.uk> > 3. Right at the end of 3, 6, 9..., "Belle and > Sebastian / on the > radio / playing songs for children". I can't > quite make out the next > line, but it sounds a bit like "B&S / on the > radio / playing songs > for lunatics"???!!, 'playing songs to learn and sing'... in reference, one can only suppose, to Echo & The Bunnymen, whose '80s compilation was of the same title. Had a funny yellowy sleeve with them walking along in sillhouette. my bro has a copy... came with a free 7" of the rather excellent Zoo release, 'Read It In Books', which i pilferred. Um, as someone noted ages ago, this makes two references to the Bunnymen on the 3,6,9 ep. other one is in the sleeve is it not? goes to check... "There was a picture of Echo & The Bunnymen". indeed. head waltzing around the room in a rather peculiar manner... the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Nov 17 17:51:41 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 12:51:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: little hello Message-ID: <199711171751.MAA02247@Vector.inexpress.net> Hello dear Sinister People, I'm new to this list and I suppose I should say something about myself? I've just turned 15,and I live in Quebec... I sort of stumbled into Belle and Sebastian,a while ago I remember seeing the cover of 'Dog On Wheels' in a magazine,and for some odd reason I got into my head that the boy on teh cover was Belle and the puppet dog was Sebastian,but he was really a solo artist/Christain rock.I don't know how I got that! My friend went on and on about how good they,and I wanted to get that album..but I forgot about it,untill I saw it 'If You're Feeling Sinister' at Spinables,when I went up to buy it,the most beautiful boy with blue eyes (they just magnetize you!) told me how good they were,so I fell in love with the boy over Belle and Sebastian so this connection remains. Especially the 'you can bet it is a bitch,kid' line,it just reminds me of the moment..most likely it is a bitch we are distant from each other...anyways,I went back there and magically,Dog On Wheels was there,another guy sold it to me..and he loves them too.And he rustled beneath his counter for a minute and produced 3..6..9 Seconds of Light,which I'd never seen before and all I swa was this beautiful objet and it was sort of gleaming silvery grey..and I was so excited to buy it,untill I realized it was HIS copy..but he said he's put it on order,not more than 2 or 3 days,I returned and again..Belle and Sebastian...3..6..9..Seconds of Light was there! I was only disappointed that the last two I'd bought had not been from my beautiful boy..but returning later that night,I took one step into the store and this guy grabbed me by my arm holding Lazy Line Painter Jane...HE (yet another guy) love Belleand Sebastian also,and he keep calling out 'You want this!You want!' when (oh lovely!) my beautiful boy sort of magically floated beside him '....It's REALLY good...' SOLD! So here I am...almost complete,except for this they call the Tigermilk,not good for me I think but treasure for you who have... I only I hadn't loved Belle and Sebastian so quick or else I might nothave boughtall in such haste and I could've savoured more moments.....Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying is one of my favourite songs from Sinister...I feel as if I share a lot of common sentiments with Belle and Sebastian..I regrette I'm not familiare with the band very well,they never seem to list who they are?Anyway,I so happy I hear this band!Past while..not too much music has got me very interested,but arrangements,especially the trumpet solos! And the writings on back...very different from other bands... I regrette,there not many bands I have 'claim to fame' with,not many bands come close to where I live,except one day,I was shopping and at A&W I meet up with Brett,Neil and Mat from Suede...I got to hang out with them later,I was so excited! I'd never met anyone famous before let alone someone famous of value to me,trying to act calm was hard! Unfortunately..I couldn't go see the show,19+ (Accursed Barrymores!) but I also met with The Longpigs,whom I admire their music very much.....very friendly,Crispin and Simon are,kept kissing me ,but I am proud to say they were very nice people,not intimidating nor pretentious I sometimes think bands will be very mean? They're in their own world that noone else understands...(Thom Yorke...but I feel so much like him sometimes!) And on Spiritualized! Ladies and Gentlemen..beautiful album especially the title track,it's very hushed vocals in rounds with light little bells in background,then they shake you up a bit with more rockier...Electricity..but then,such sadness..Broken Heart...one of the best sad songs...Pure Phase (earlier album) is quite good too.... forgive me dear people,I'm tired and this is probably stupide post for a first one.. Oh ,I've write too long! Love and Poison, Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From koogydelbbog at xxx.com Mon Nov 17 19:14:58 1997 From: koogydelbbog at xxx.com (andrew dean) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 11:14:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: la la la... Message-ID: <19971117191458.15020.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> um, my weekly post to sinister... video was shown on the chart show on saturday. it always used to be repeated later in the week but it was shown late on saturday night as well so i think you've missed it if you haven't seen it. check the radio times though. isobel looks suitably angelic in it... trembling blue stars single has been delayed (again). release date now 1st december, the same day as the teletubbies single. susannah, steven, i think this could be the start of something *beautiful*. keep us informed... cool beans to dave and katrina for giving us first dibs on the tickets. the cheque's in the post... the new mogwai lp is rather good, spent most of today listening to it. kinda pretty in parts, pretty with an underlying sense of menace which occasionally rears its head. and aiden sings on it too, which was nice. both mogwai and arab strap remix the david holmes single. bought the simon and garfunkel box on saturday. been meaning to buy the greatest hits for a while now and got paid on friday so... really nice sunday afternoon music. really doesn't go as a soundtrack to goldeneye on the n64 though (which is what i was doing on sunday afternoon). oh, laughed like a drain at the fast show's hungarian cartoon piss-take on friday. and the thing on teletext on ch4 this morning, page 482 or something had 'oh sebastian, went too far again...' and '...crashed his car in the rain' running along the bottom of it. the other sub-pages had lines from the byrds and the beatles. andy i'm an alien, i'm an alien... __________________________________________________________________ Sent by Yahoo! Mail. Get your free e-mail at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gram at xxx.com Mon Nov 17 19:29:34 1997 From: gram at xxx.com (gram) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:29:34 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Bedhead/B&S Message-ID: <86256552.006C14B1.00@internet-502.interliant.com> >the first few seconds of "You Made Me > Forget my Dreams," when someone sneezes and apologizes, and then Stuart M > (I'm assuming) sort of chuckles/sighs before he begins singing the song. This part is awesome. and it makes me even happier cuz I already own the BEDHEAD 4 songs EP on the Bedhead EP, before the first song starts, you can hear someone talking and then Matt the singer chuckles and laughs in almost the same way as B&S. its really neat, cuz I know the bands proly have no idea and they happen to be my 2 favorite bands... cheers, g r a m ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cew29 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 17 20:18:10 1997 From: cew29 at xxx.uk (Chloe) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 20:18:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Bloke depression Message-ID: Dear person, I had serious bloke depression and now I'm listening to Belle and Sebastian, drinking port, feeling full of cheap doughnuts and I'm okay. That's how I use music. For me, it's not about being a complete muso, it's about tuning in. Much love C X ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Tue Nov 18 08:34:03 1997 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 00:34:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Bloke depression Message-ID: >Dear person, > >I had serious bloke depression and now I'm listening to Belle and >Sebastian, drinking port, feeling full of cheap doughnuts and I'm okay. >That's how I use music. For me, it's not about being a complete muso, >it's about tuning in. > >Much love > >C > >X > Word up sister...I *SO* heard that one. I am SO overwhelmed in bloke depression there ain't enough port in the states to sail this ship.....Belle & Sebastian (along with a little rain) seem to make it worse and better all at once....Like soaking in it or something....A bit of brie wouldn't hurt neither. *sigh* beth >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Mon Nov 17 21:52:26 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Mon, 17 Nov 1997 21:52:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: Some B&S content, no drunken ramblings this time Message-ID: <3472bc24.372128@email.mcmail.com> Hello trees, hello flowers, Never, ever, write messages to the list when you're drunk. What was that piece of crap I wrote on Saturday evening? Oh God.... Anyhoo, does anyone know anything about a certain Glaswegian band of travelling minstrels that we know and love (yeah, right, its Deacon Blue) appearing on 'Later' in a couple of weeks? Just something I heard. Saw the Pastels on Saturday night. 'They are the kings' as Stuart M said. And so did we over and over again. Alkyhol. Just say no...But they are. Really. The Kings. Big kisses McTaggart xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.Haggett at xxx.uk Tue Nov 18 10:11:27 1997 From: R.Haggett at xxx.uk (Ricky HAGGETT) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:11:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: On the radio Message-ID: <553.879847887@cs.ucl.ac.uk> >3. Right at the end of 3, 6, 9..., "Belle and Sebastian / on the >radio / playing songs for children". I can't quite make out the next >line, but it sounds a bit like "B&S / on the radio / playing songs >for lunatics"???!!, which, if true, would be quite hilarious!! For ages I thought it was: "Belle and Sebastian / on the radio / They insulted children / on the radio" It kinda sucks when you find out that the real lyrics aren't quite as good as what you thought they were. Oh well. Ricky ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From emergencyone at xxx.uk Tue Nov 18 11:00:10 1997 From: emergencyone at xxx.uk (Mike Madsen) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:00:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Benefit Gig Message-ID: <3471753A.5DDE@sol.co.uk> Hi all, I'm new to the list and so you possibly know this already... ...hot from the teenage fanclub mailing list ... On the 2nd December there is a benefit gig (Aids awareness I think) at the Thirteenth Note in Glasgow. The line up is Pastels, BMX Bandits and Eugenius - tickets on sale soon. Anyway ... the new rumour is that B&S will also be playing on the night. Anyone confirm this? It's gonna be an amazing night! byebye Mikey _______________________________________________________________________ Michael Madsen (Production & Design Engineer) Emergency One (UK) Limited * Fire Fighting Appliance Manufacturers WEB-SITE: http://www.sol.co.uk/e/emergencyone/ - UNDER CONSTRUCTION! _______________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From p.higgins at xxx.uk Tue Nov 18 11:08:17 1997 From: p.higgins at xxx.uk (peter higgins) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:08:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: lyric stuff Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19971118110817.007956d0@www.csm-li.co.uk> I thought it was "Belle and Sebastian... on the radio... playing songs to learn and sing..." but hey, what do I know? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Smundy97 at xxx.com Tue Nov 18 12:12:00 1997 From: Smundy97 at xxx.com (Smundy97 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 07:12:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Lyrics and BEING ILL Message-ID: <971118071200_-1667993024@mrin79> It's definitely 'playing Songs for Children' ... but the next line, I can't figure out ... Have nothing intelligent to add to B&S content, other than to gloat that I am leaving Berkshire for my parents' home in Lancashire on Christmas Eve and returning the following Monday - which means for the Manchester dates I am only 15 miles away, instead of the usual 200!!!!! Oh, there is a God! Just out of interest, I rang Manchester Town Hall booking office last week. The guy I got put through initially said: "Don't no anything about belle and sebastian, mate ..." and later admitted, "well, they haven't confirmed yet" - this is like trying to get to the bottom of Watergate, but with shify Mancs taking the place of the FBI. Sat at home with flu today, so any sympathy would be greatly received. Flu strengh Lemsip in yellow/green mug, soup on the cooker, Stereolab in the kitchen - well, obviously not STEREOLAB in the kitchen (though that would be nice), but Mars Audiac Quintet on the dodgy record player in the kitchen ... it's a sorry state to be in. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 18 16:31:31 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:31:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: musical argument In-Reply-To: <971118071200_-1667993024@mrin79> Message-ID: if there is a god, why am i in west michigan where there is NO good music (did i already say that people here only listen to ska and american country?) and im nowhere near the manchester gigs. does this qualify as laurel's musical argument against the existence of god? ok so aquinas i'm not..erm...what was his argument again? anyway now i'm off, as usual this message has only oblique b&s content...very oblique. laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 18 16:31:31 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 11:31:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: musical argument In-Reply-To: <971118071200_-1667993024@mrin79> Message-ID: if there is a god, why am i in west michigan where there is NO good music (did i already say that people here only listen to ska and american country?) and im nowhere near the manchester gigs. does this qualify as laurel's musical argument against the existence of god? ok so aquinas i'm not..erm...what was his argument again? anyway now i'm off, as usual this message has only oblique b&s content...very oblique. laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From klas.ericsson at xxx.se Tue Nov 18 17:24:17 1997 From: klas.ericsson at xxx.se (Klas Ericsson) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 17:24:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: The one who's strong enough to help them fall Message-ID: From "Mary Jo": "It's someone else's turn to go through Hell Now you can see them come from twenty yards Yeah you can tell It's someone else's turn to take a fall And now you are the one who's strong enough to help them The one who's strong enough to help them The one who's strong enough to help them all" This ruined my day. I always thought Stuart were singing "the one who´s strong enough to help them FALL". That would have been great. By the way. I got a tape with a collection of Felt songs. And they´re great! Not great. GREAT! So duke & co; all of you were right. And Felt certainly are better than Denim:-) ///Klas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Tue Nov 18 18:56:33 1997 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:56:33 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Bedhead/B&S, Bloke depression Message-ID: RE: Bedhead/B&S On Mon, 17 Nov 1997 13:29:34 -0600 gram (gram at interliant.com) wrote: >on the Bedhead EP, before the first song starts, you can hear someone >talking and then Matt the singer chuckles and laughs in almost the same way >as B&S. > >its really neat, cuz I know the bands proly have no idea and they happen to >be my 2 favorite bands... Mmmmmm, yes. Bedhead is DIVINE. There is finally a release date for their next record -- Feb 10, 1998 on Trance Syndicate. I'm so impatient, but I'm sure it will be worth the wait. RE: "Sinister: Bloke depression" posts: I find that a certain sequence of songs on IYFS is perfect for a depressed mood. If I'm bummed out, "Like Dylan in the Movies" always gets me a little teary, for reasons I don't quite understand. I'll usually be trying to hold it back, but then "Fox in the Snow" begins and the tears start rushing out and I might as well stop sweeping the floor or cooking soup or whatever and just sit down and let it happen. It's nice to cry surrounded by such a beautiful song. The best part, though, is that when "Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying" kicks in, I always start laughing! Then I laugh even more at the fact that I'm laughing but still have a face full of tears. I realize I'm happy in spite of myself and end up feeling lighter for a while. Also related to B&S and moods, I find that the LLPJ EP is especially well suited for a crowded bus ride home after work on a rainy night, when everyone on the bus is soggy and miserable. I've used it many times to survive such a ride. Last week I had those songs playing on my walkman and this drunk older man next to me kept tugging on my sleeve and asking me questions. I kept pulling off my headphones, then putting them on again. The people across from me were giving me sympathetic glances as I did my best to ignore his mumbling. Finally he pulled my sleeve again and said "Must be some pretty good music." I smiled and nodded and he was quiet the rest of the way. - Nicole ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elzachar at xxx.no Tue Nov 18 19:27:47 1997 From: elzachar at xxx.no (elzachar at xxx.no) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 20:27:47 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Re: bloke problems Message-ID: <199711181927.UAA19204@online.no> Ok, a story for you sad lasses (and lad!), last week I had serious bloke depression, when I had a heated argument with my boyfriend. It ended up with us going our seperate ways, and I had to go to one of my mates which didn't know what to say. i started crying and he said "Eh, likes, do you want some coke?" (the drink, mind you, i'm from innocent Norway) But at least he tried, well, anyway I went home REALLY depressed. In my mind I decided to find a taxi, I just couldn't walk another step, in that same second I heard a carhorn-it was my ex-boyfriend who wondered if I needed a ride home. So he drove me home and I asked him in for a cup of tea. he stayed for hours , trying to help me sort out my troubles (Yes, I know it is kind of strange..) And then suddenly the doorbell rang, and it was my boyfriend wanting to kiss and make up, and so we did. And now I'm happy,happy,happy And the morale of the story? Eh, choose boyfriends with cars? No, I don't really know..well, i always listen to "You made me forget my dreams" when I have bloke depression and it sometimes helps! Liz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Tue Nov 18 21:41:37 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 22:41:37 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Er, Belle & Sebastian... Message-ID: <199711182141.WAA19145@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Alistair wrote ... >Um, as someone >noted ages ago, this makes two references to the >Bunnymen on the 3,6,9 ep. other one is in the >sleeve is it not? goes to check... "There was a >picture of Echo & The Bunnymen". indeed. The picture sleeve of "3..6..9" instantly reminded me of the Boy Hairdressers 12" sleeve ... oh well, surely mentioned ages ago ... "He watched in a trance as the boy's illustration of a cat banging the drum got bigger and bigger." Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Tue Nov 18 21:41:33 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 22:41:33 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: the perfect album for xmas present Message-ID: <199711182141.WAA19138@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Steve Genge wrote ... >Someplace this week I saw a mention for the Trembling Blue Stars album >with the tag line that if that special person in your life has got "If >You're Feeling Sinister" buy them the Trembling Blue Stars album for >xmas. Not sure about that advice myself East River Pipe being much >better. Maybe we could launch the perfect album for xmas present >thread now? Genevieve (marvellous name) already mentioned in another context ... >And on Spiritualized! Ladies and Gentlemen..beautiful album especially >the title track,it's very hushed vocals in rounds with light little bells in >background,then they shake you up a bit with more rockier...Electricity..but >then,such sadness..Broken Heart...one of the best sad songs...Pure Phase >(earlier album) is quite good too.... Well, I've been unsubscribed for several weeks ... dunno whether anybody mentioned the extraordinary packaging of both CD versions, making those releases very special presents ... I've praised several friends with the luminescent "Pure phase" CD ("glowing" in the dark), each and every one was most pleased. This is not to say that you shouldn't give away East River Pipe CD's as well, I'd suggest the singles compilation "Shining hours in a can" as an introduction ... Re: Bloke depression vs. Girl depression Dan wrote ... >What about us poor men? I'm am in serious GIRL depression at the moment >and I find Gin & Tonic with Belle & Sebastian to be a much better >comfort than port (will have to go buy doughnuts tomorrow). You are >definitely right, music is a great thing to take solace in, it's not >about how old or young you are but what you feel inside, a sort of >externalization of your mental state. Why would it be otherwise that >Beth (and myself) both feel better and worse for listening? I won't contribute in essence, only mention my favourite and _criminally_ underrated stuff for such occassions, since some people may want to please themselves with xmas presents ... _early_ Jacobites (Dave Kusworth & Nikki Sudden), the following reissue CD's should be easily available in UK records shops (else write to Regency Sound @ Trident Music International, PO Box 2903, London, N1 3NE, UK) and are sequenced as regards my personal preferences ... Jacobites - Robespierre's Velvet Basement (Janida 02) Jacobites - Hawks Get Religion (Janida 03) Jacobites - Jacobites (Janida 01) Up there with "Robespierre's Velvet Basement" is Dave Kusworth's solo album "All The Heartbreak Stories" (Creation 108) ... I could well imagine that some listees would like those records despite the rougher approach when compared to B&S, the Dave Kusworth album is probably the most accessible ... in any event I'd be interested in other people's opinion on those records. The advanced depressive may fall for "Sister Lovers" by Big Star or "The Painted Word" by the Television Personalities ... besides, anybody mentioned the Revolving Paint Dream on this list before ? What am I doing here writing a lengthy mail about depressive records ... my apologies ... "All I wanted was to sing the saddest song" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nioannidis at xxx.gr Wed Nov 19 01:10:53 1997 From: nioannidis at xxx.gr (Nicholas Ioannidis) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:10:53 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Internationally speaking! Message-ID: <34723C9D.702E310B@ath.forthnet.gr> Hi there! I was thinking, since the debate level is a bit low again, how about (since this list IS multi-national) having a "gallop pole" about how many people from different countries are on this list! Then we could exchange our travel (+why not musical) experiences from having visited these countries! (i know many of the Englanders have a lot to say about Greece anyway!) Let's go, i am starting off: Nicholas - Athens,Greece - 23 -Mastering in the History and Philosophy of Science. (that was brief wasn't it?) xox nicholas! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MRSuau at xxx.net Wed Nov 19 08:31:02 1997 From: MRSuau at xxx.net (Mario Suau) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:31:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: transcription for "put the book back on the shelf" Message-ID: <3472A3C5.90CA980@teleweb.net> i noticed that no one has taken a stab at this so here it is: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- E B Sebastian you're in a mess F#m You had a dream, they called you king of all the hipsters, C#m B is it true or are you still the queen? E B Like getting blood out of a stone F#m The city left you lost and gone C#m B You came to dance, but there's no poignancy when they all leave you... Amaj7 Emaj7 standing alone Amaj7 Emaj7 standing alone Amaj7 Emaj7 Amaj7 C B E B The wider issues of the day F#m just pass you by, you're gonna pay C#m B for looking at the floor when people talk to you. E B You wrote a book about yourself F#m The people left it on the shelf You'll write another one C#m B Amaj7 Emaj7 Now you've got a story that's worth talking about. Amaj7 Emaj7 talking about Amaj7 Emaj7 talking about Amaj7 C B (trumpet solo): F#m C#m F#m C#m G#m Ebm G#m Ebm G#m F#m G#m F#m Amaj7 Emaj7 Amaj7 Are you happy with yourself? Emaj7 Amaj7 Are you talking to yourself? Emaj7 Amaj7 Are you happy with yourself? Emaj7 Put the book back on the shelf E B I've seen the company you keep F#m You're on the sofa hidden deep C#m B While on the telly Sid James speaks you like God E B You're always looking for a sign F#m But boy you blow it every time C#m You hear a voice begin to speak B Amaj7 Emaj7 You ignore it and go softly to sleep Amaj7 Emaj7 softly to sleep Amaj7 Emaj7 softly to sleep Amaj7 Emaj7 Amaj7 Emaj7 Amaj7 Are you happy with yourself? Emaj7 Amaj7 Are you happy with yourself? Emaj7 Amaj7 Are you happy with yourself? (continue same pattern until the end) have fun, mario ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MRSuau at xxx.net Wed Nov 19 08:40:48 1997 From: MRSuau at xxx.net (Mario Suau) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 03:40:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: transcription for "belle and sebastian on the radio" or whatever it's called Message-ID: <3472A610.E220C73@teleweb.net> what is this bonus song at the end of "3,6,9 seconds of light" called anyways? here are the chords: -------------------------------------------------------------------------- (intro chords...actually the chords for the whole song) Bmaj7 Bbm7 Abm7 Bmaj7 Belle and Sebastian Bbm7 on the radio Abm7 playing songs for children Bmaj7 Belle and Sebastian Bbm7 on the radio Abm7 playing songs to learn and sing etc... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com Wed Nov 19 10:38:54 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com (Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 05:38:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: On the radio Message-ID: <199711190539_MC2-2878-87B4@compuserve.com> >Date: Tue, 18 Nov 1997 10:11:27 +0000 >From: Ricky HAGGETT >Subject: Sinister: On the radio > > >For ages I thought it was: > >"Belle and Sebastian / on the radio / They insulted children / on the radio" > >It kinda sucks when you find out that the real lyrics aren't quite as good as >what you thought they were. Oh well. > >Ricky Here I am, just got in this morning to start a day's hard graft as a corporate library assistant (the worrying is that through a strange combination of circumstances and lack of courage this is actually something of a career choice) and I flick though my sinister-digest to find this. I agree that Stuart Murdoch missed a trick when he failed to pen this fantastic alternative. I couldn't stop myself laughing even when serious-looking middle-aged men from Supplies and Transport passed through the library and nodded their morning greeting. I know we've had this thread before, but don't you think it's odd that such a softly-spoken and not very raucous (rock beast Le Pastie de la Bourgeoisie excepted) band as Belle And Sebastian should create such confusion with their lyrics? On their theme tune Stuart Murdoch seems to sing his F's like B's. As in: "Bella you are ill, you'd better take a weight up off your mind" and "When I was young you were the only bun in town" which hit a particular note for me since I used to call my only-just-ex- girlfriend 'Bun' on account of her surname being Bunney. What a wittering start to my first posting. I could have made a splash, I could have been a ink polaroid competitor, I could have been a whistle, could have been a clock. Instead I'm just a late entrant to the whole party, who missed out by having lost his ear for a phenomenon when he heard B&S so long ago on the Mark Radcliffe show but didn't look up from his newspaper, merely registering Judy and the Dream of Horses and thinking it a little twee. Sigh. See you all in Manchester. Nick Dastoor nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve com Horses . I still ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Wed Nov 19 11:18:25 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:18:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ink Paranoids Compo. Message-ID: <1F753759DE@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> Did I miss the result or is it still forthcoming? Will the winning - or perhaps even a selection - be reposted for our delectations? Short and sweat, chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Wed Nov 19 11:59:16 1997 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (timminsc) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:59:16 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19951119120020.007b2610@mail.tcd.ie> At bloody last. I got the ep. Allow the debate was ages ago, I think my favourite song is Beautiful. Nobody probably wants to know this. But there you go. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 19 11:29:34 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:29:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: On the radio Message-ID: <01bcf4de$69640190$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> I've always assumed that "Songs for Children" is a song about when they were on the evening show on Radio 1 being interviewed by Mark Lamarr in Sep 96, they were basically having a laugh, taking the piss out of Mark Lamarr, Chris talking about his essay on Foucault and Stuart remarking "F**Koff" sounding similar and then roaring with laughter as Mark Lamarr fails to count correctly twice the number of words in the title of Judy and the dream of Horses. This was the first radio session they did, so it kind of matches up with the words in the song. Keith. Gone a bit bloody quiet of late hasn't it? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Wed Nov 19 13:28:56 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:28:56 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Internationally speaking! Message-ID: <199711191328.OAA11032@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Nicholas Ioannidis wrote ... > I was thinking, since the debate level is a bit low again, how about (since this list IS multi-national) having a "gallop pole" about how many people from different countries are on this list! Then we could exchange our travel (+why not musical) experiences from having visited these countries! (i know many of the Englanders have a lot to say about Greece anyway!) < You're not expecting over three hundred answers, are you ? §:^D Anyway, keeping in mind the purpose of this list, the few people participating in the thread should probably mention a national band whose music comes closest to the sounds of Belle and Sebastian. I'm not an expert as regards the Greek scene, so I could only come up with Fantastic Something (minus the keyboards) ... whatever happened to Alex and Constantine Veis ? > Let's go, i am starting off: Nicholas - Athens,Greece - 23 - Mastering in the History and Philosophy of Science.(that was brief wasn't it?) < Ooops ... picking up on this thread, I'm probably supposed to continue ... Andreas / Hannover, Germany (P!O!P! relevancy 01/10) / 26 / Student of Law and International Law / Foreign Student of Life in Glasgow 94/95 (P!O!P! relevancy 10/10) and Stockholm 96/97 (P!O!P! relevancy 02/10) / National band - Loveset (in session with Tym G. Liwa). That obscure band from Wigan who once sounded a bit like the intro to one of B&S's songs, on the other hand ... Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Wed Nov 19 14:12:36 1997 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 14:12:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Oh No! Message-ID: <17926E07AEC@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Oh No! I just got a message from the Glasgow Uni computer people telling me I get too much E-Mail.... So I'll have to go to the digest version.... Does this mean I won't get irrelevant stuff anymore (cos I kinda like that stuff).... And has anyone else from Glasgow uni (i know your on this somewhere) had this problem.... Cheerio, neil ------------------------------------------------- " if you're chasing the morning, if you're sleeping all day..." ------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Wed Nov 19 14:58:27 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:58:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: musical argument Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971119145827.00681518@student.let.uva.nl> >if there is a god, why am i in west michigan where there is NO good music >(did i already say that people here only listen to ska and american >country?) and im nowhere near the manchester gigs. What "ska" would that be? No Doubt (haha)? Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Wed Nov 19 15:20:29 1997 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:20:29 GMT Subject: Sinister: lyric stuff In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19971118110817.007956d0@www.csm-li.co.uk> Message-ID: <87BCA444EE@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> > I thought it was "Belle and Sebastian... on the radio... playing songs to > learn and sing..." but hey, what do I know? Hmmm, I'd always kind of thought it was "Belle and Sebastian...on the radio... playing songs for children", in a kind of homage to the Pastels. Am I the only one hanging around computers all day, waiting for those ticket details? Joseph xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Nov 19 15:30:09 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:30:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Oh No! In-Reply-To: <17926E07AEC@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Neil Hargreaves wrote: > Oh No! > > I just got a message from the Glasgow Uni computer people telling me > I get too much E-Mail.... Christ! They're strict. The only time I had a problem here at HairyTwat was when I "accidentally" sent myself the binary for Netscape Navigator in 1K chunks! (I was practising to mailbomb someone else!) > So I'll have to go to the digest version.... > Does this mean I won't get irrelevant stuff anymore (cos I kinda like > that stuff).... The digest is just a collection of all the postings for one day. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pastaplegic: n. Person who's eaten so much spaghetti he can't move ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paulf at xxx.uk Wed Nov 19 15:37:24 1997 From: paulf at xxx.uk (Paul Forsyth) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:37:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Too fast... Message-ID: <347307B4.67AF@scs.leeds.ac.uk> Hiya, Just whiling away the hours... Now that I get the digest version I am wondering if it actually takes me longer to read the digest than it did to read the numerous single messages! I managed at the weekend to introduce some of my friends to Belle and Sebastain. We were in Great Yarmouth in one friend's parents caravan for a weekend of doing absolutely nothing at all (except for 'socialising' and getting up at 2pm for three days on the trot). On the Sunday evening I brought out 'Tigermilk' which had the effect of them wanting to go out and get 'Sinister'. I don't know if they have yet, but I hope they have. This morning was a bizarre Tigermilk experience. In the middle of trying to wake up and get ready for Uni I was made a tape up of Tigermilk and various sessions but I was pressed for time so I hit the 'high' speed copy button. To hear Tigermilk at speeds Donald Duck can sing to is quite something. I followed and hummed the lyrics rather well, under the circumstances, though I gave on 'Electronic Renaissance' when it turned into a club song. back to work... Cya, Paul ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Wed Nov 19 15:36:54 1997 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:36:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: cover me badd In-Reply-To: <199711191531.PAA28475@sunserv5.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <8802E13453@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> A bit out of date, but... I know of two bands who do B&S covers. The first is Polar Bear, who are now called something else, and who did loads in their soundcheck at the Intercity Crawl. The second is Fleck, Wigan's IndieRock superstars-in-waiting, who do a splendid version of "Get me away from Here I'm dying" . Joseph xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 19 15:16:32 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:16:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Oh No! Message-ID: <01bcf4fe$1e463780$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Neil - it's probably unlikely to be checking the actual amount of email you're getting, just there'll be a quota on the amount of Disk Space you're allowed to use, so a periodic clearout of your email is probably the solution (I graduated from Edinburgh, so this is just a bit of a guess), if this is the case then going to the digest version then it'll not help much (just a bit by removing headers from each email). I know the standard email accounts at Edinburgh had a quota of 1 Meg per student set. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Nov 19 15:30:09 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:30:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Oh No! In-Reply-To: <17926E07AEC@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 19 Nov 1997, Neil Hargreaves wrote: > Oh No! > > I just got a message from the Glasgow Uni computer people telling me > I get too much E-Mail.... Christ! They're strict. The only time I had a problem here at HairyTwat was when I "accidentally" sent myself the binary for Netscape Navigator in 1K chunks! (I was practising to mailbomb someone else!) > So I'll have to go to the digest version.... > Does this mean I won't get irrelevant stuff anymore (cos I kinda like > that stuff).... The digest is just a collection of all the postings for one day. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Pastaplegic: n. Person who's eaten so much spaghetti he can't move ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Wed Nov 19 16:22:18 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:22:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: cover me badd Message-ID: <971119112217_379321795@mrin58.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-19 10:53:14 EST, ics6jdc at EAST-01.NOVELL.LEEDS.AC.UK writes: > >A bit out of date, but... >I know of two bands who do B&S covers. >The first is Polar Bear, who are now called something else, and who >did loads in their soundcheck at the Intercity Crawl. >The second is Fleck, Wigan's IndieRock superstars-in-waiting, who do >a splendid version of "Get me away from Here I'm dying" The band is called SnowPatrol now. Also, Josh from Holiday did Get Me Away. . . at a Divine Comedy show last year at Fez in NYC. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlang at xxx.com Wed Nov 19 17:40:32 1997 From: mlang at xxx.com (Matrix) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 12:40:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sorry Message-ID: to bother the whole list with this but my boss' girlfriend just snagged my work email account so I am going to have to aol it now.... how do I switch email addresses for this list? steve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 19 18:25:37 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:25:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: musical argument In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971119145827.00681518@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: in response to eeyore's question about ska, mostly local bands are popular here. there's one called mustard plug, one called 311 (three-eleven), fat amy, also the might mighty bosstones, reel big fish, and other more well-known bands. there's plenty of no doubt, but that is listened to by what my roommates and i call the abercrombie poster child. are you familiar with abercrombie & fitch? it's an oh-please-let-me-look-like-everyone-else kind of clothing store. many of its customers are also part of the i-wanna-be-a-hippie-but-my-daddy-is-rich subset, with a large proportion of alternateens. (aren't labels great?) aren't you all just dying to visit grand rapids yet? thinking about this town really pisses me off--i'm really not this bitchy all the time. please forgive the crazy ranting. laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From initgrl at xxx.org Wed Nov 19 18:43:01 1997 From: initgrl at xxx.org (jj heldmann) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:43:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: musical argument In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > aren't you all just dying to visit grand rapids yet? > > thinking about this town really pisses me off--i'm really not this bitchy > all the time. please forgive the crazy ranting. my only words of defense for bland rapids, world headquarter city of scamway, er, I mean Amway, are that i found a number of pastels 12"s for $.99 and 3 copies of Heavenly v. Satan there in a 6 month period 2 years ago (2 LPs and one CD), as well as a number of other good pop 12"/LPs in the sale bins - oh yeah, and a Tallulah Gosh 7" for $.49 awhile back...but I think i've cleaned 'em (Vinyl Solution) out by now and everything else about the city is lame lame lame (except that I now know there's one more B&S fan there!!!) xo jj ******************************************** fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa www.mindspring.com/~initialgirl/fantastic ******************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 19 18:25:37 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 13:25:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: musical argument In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19971119145827.00681518@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: in response to eeyore's question about ska, mostly local bands are popular here. there's one called mustard plug, one called 311 (three-eleven), fat amy, also the might mighty bosstones, reel big fish, and other more well-known bands. there's plenty of no doubt, but that is listened to by what my roommates and i call the abercrombie poster child. are you familiar with abercrombie & fitch? it's an oh-please-let-me-look-like-everyone-else kind of clothing store. many of its customers are also part of the i-wanna-be-a-hippie-but-my-daddy-is-rich subset, with a large proportion of alternateens. (aren't labels great?) aren't you all just dying to visit grand rapids yet? thinking about this town really pisses me off--i'm really not this bitchy all the time. please forgive the crazy ranting. laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Wed Nov 19 19:32:39 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 20:32:39 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: cover me badd / Oh no! Message-ID: <199711191932.UAA12706@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Joseph wrote ... >>I know of two bands who do B&S covers. >>The second is Fleck, Wigan's IndieRock superstars-in-waiting, who do >>a splendid version of "Get me away from Here I'm dying" Are Fleck by any chance that obscure band from Wigan who once sounded a bit like the intro to one of B&S's songs ? §:^D >Also, Josh from Holiday did Get Me Away. . . at a Divine Comedy show last >year at Fez in NYC. Well, I suppose shameless self-promotion would not be tolerated on this list ... I'd rather show my helpful side ... Re: Oh no! Neil Hargreaves wrote ... >X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) >I just got a message from the Glasgow Uni computer people telling me >I get too much E-Mail.... I'm neither a computer expert nor aware of Pegasus, but my Eudora Light mailing software offers the option to "leave mail on the server" (under Special/Settings/Checking mail), which means that every single mail one has _ever_ received via one's e-mail address would pile up the provided quota of _server_ disk space. Under Eudora Light, the option is switched _on_ after the installation process. After receiving a similar message, I've switched the option off _permanently_ and removed more than 1000 mails left on the _server_, since received e-mails are safely available on my hard disk (that is, unless I delete them by purpose). In other words, leaving mails on the server only ensures additional copies. That option _may_ be your problem, but you'd have to find out how to clear server space _online_ under Pegasus (read that "message" carefully) ... Ooops ... apologies for another lengthy mail, only thought some others may be interested as well to prevent similar troubles in the future ... "The boy done wrong again" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjfarago at xxx.edu Wed Nov 19 21:36:24 1997 From: mjfarago at xxx.edu (Blue Thunder) Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 15:36:24 -0600 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <01bcf533$2f47c0a0$ad885c90@nn.wisc.edu> Have some chicken soup and get well soon. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 1492 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 3976 bytes Desc: not available URL: From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 20 05:09:01 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:09:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: bloke depression In-Reply-To: <8802E13453@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: i too am using b&s to wallow in my depression, although unfortunately my b&s consumption is not accompanied by alcohol consumption. since this is production night for the school paper, we're rather busy. although, i must admit that i have put out an issue when really pissed, it's not a good idea. even though i think everyone else in this office is heartily sick of my british music, i have so far listened to b&s, suede, geneva, etc...it just seemed to fit my mood. next is either james or booth & the bad angel. i could really use another smoke too, but i think i'm cutting myself off for the evening. by the way, what is the time difference for those of the in the uk as compared to the eastern us? how many hours later? i'll hear from you all in the morning, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Thu Nov 20 05:10:20 1997 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:10:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #69 Message-ID: <971120001019_-1172717833@mrin42.mail.aol.com> I heard the next single "Modern Rock Song" was pushed back to early Jan. '98 release. Pete Gianakopoulos ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 20 05:09:01 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 00:09:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: bloke depression In-Reply-To: <8802E13453@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: i too am using b&s to wallow in my depression, although unfortunately my b&s consumption is not accompanied by alcohol consumption. since this is production night for the school paper, we're rather busy. although, i must admit that i have put out an issue when really pissed, it's not a good idea. even though i think everyone else in this office is heartily sick of my british music, i have so far listened to b&s, suede, geneva, etc...it just seemed to fit my mood. next is either james or booth & the bad angel. i could really use another smoke too, but i think i'm cutting myself off for the evening. by the way, what is the time difference for those of the in the uk as compared to the eastern us? how many hours later? i'll hear from you all in the morning, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From YoeyGoey at xxx.com Thu Nov 20 08:51:32 1997 From: YoeyGoey at xxx.com (YoeyGoey at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 03:51:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: indie record auction for a poor college kid Message-ID: <971120035130_195210334@mrin86.mail.aol.com> hi!! i am holding a big mess of a record auction because i need money to help me through college... there are tons of sarah goodies and stuff from slumberland, bus stop, elefant, harriet, etc etc. i am holding an auction because i didn't know how to price most of these so don't feel intimidated! bid away please! :) thank you! larry bonk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Smundy97 at xxx.com Thu Nov 20 10:02:28 1997 From: Smundy97 at xxx.com (Smundy97 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 05:02:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: On the radio: misheard lyrics Message-ID: <971120050228_327468183@mrin40.mail.aol.com> Too true! This b/f confusion seems to be the cause of most B&S lyrical problems - I always thought it was "you were the honey bun in town", which is quite sweet I suppose. And I was convinced it was Bella who was ill, which sort of alters the whole context of the song really. smundy97 (still directing traffic on the disco floor) In a message dated 19/11/97 10:54:52 am, Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at NOTES.compuserve.com wrote: >On their theme tune Stuart Murdoch seems to >sing his F's like B's. As in: > "Bella you are ill, you'd better take a weight up off your mind" > and > "When I was young you were the only bun in town" > which hit a particular note for me since I used to call my only-just-ex- > girlfriend 'Bun' on account of her surname being Bunney.>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 10:23:52 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:23:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: On the radio References: <01bcf4de$69640190$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34740FB8.59865562@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > I've always assumed that "Songs for Children" is a song > about when they were > on the evening show on Radio 1 being interviewed by Mark > Lamarr in Sep 96, > they were basically having a laugh, taking the piss out of > Mark Lamarr, > Chris talking about his essay on Foucault and Stuart > remarking "F**Koff" > sounding similar and then roaring with laughter as Mark > Lamarr fails to > count correctly twice the number of words in the title of > Judy and the dream > of Horses. This was the first radio session they did, so > it kind of matches > up with the words in the song. > > Keith. > > Gone a bit bloody quiet of late hasn't it? > I don't suppose any of you Robert Plants and Rula Lenskas out there in pop land have got a tape of this interview have you? It would make my day. By the by, I finally obtained the much sought after Ladies and Gentlemen We Are Floating in Space today. So thanks to all my little helpers out there over the last few months. I still think it's a daft package. Had the check-out woman well confused, much to my embarrassment, but gave 'er indoors a good laugh, so thumbs up to the much maligned Mister Spaceman. Whilst ploughing through a tedious article about the wonderful work of A&R men, I stumbled across the information that members of B&S played football during the In the City knees-up against a team of dirty English A&R types. Are there any witnesses? Who played? Did they score? Did Sarah have to take her roller skates of to play? Archie, I have mislaid your address. What a silly billy! Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paulf at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 10:24:05 1997 From: paulf at xxx.uk (Paul Forsyth) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:24:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mancunian tickets Message-ID: <34740FC5.6177@scs.leeds.ac.uk> Hiya, Thanks you David & Katrina for the Manchester mailout. I was due to head out the door but left it for a bit while I read it over a bit more breakfast! I was wondering if the tickets for the Christmas concerts had a 'time available from' on them, as I've just tried the Piccadilly ticket office and also Stargreen in London. Piccadilly said to phone back this afternoon to find if they are carrying the tickets but Stargreen hadn't heard of the gigs. Any ideas? Cheers Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Nov 20 10:36:16 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:36:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: Some B&S content, then I got distracted and started talking about ice-cream. Message-ID: <347504ab.2601568@email.mcmail.com> Hello kids, I sent a mail asking about B&S being on 'Later', in a couple of weeks. Except I didn't actually mention them by name. And no-one replied. I hope no-one really thought I meant Deacon Blue, it was a joke (I know jokes are supposed to be funny, but...). Anyway, does anyone know anything about this? Maybe Katrina knows. It may well prove to be total lies, but 'I heard it through the grapevine'. Errr, can't think of anything else. It's raining. I'm tired. No girl depressions to share with complete strangers. No lyrics to ask about. Still haven't got 'Tigermilk'. Nicholas in Athens just happens to know a very good friend of mine who lives out there - 'spooky coincidence'. Anyone got any good 'sinister' coincidences? Any good jokes? Read any good books? It's been said that Carson McCullers' 'The Heart is a Lonely Hunter' is the ultimate B&S book, so up yours Jack Kerouac (apart from 'Maggie Cassidy' which rules). Seen any good films? 'Will it snow for Christmas?' is totally loveable. The wonderful 'Time of the Gypsies' was on TV a couple of weeks ago and I intend to sit down and watch that again with a big tub of strawberry cheesecake Haagen Dazs (or however you spell it, (or however you spell it. Do they still make 'cookie dough dynamo?'. I'd heard they stopped making it, which is an outrage because that was my favourite and quite a lot of other peoples's too...mmmmm....cookie dough) and lose myself in it all over again this weekend, cos it's last time I'll be free at the weekend until 1998. Such a dizzy social whirl...but right now I'm bored. Oh sod it. Better do some work. Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Thu Nov 20 10:51:25 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 10:51:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: misheard lyrics Message-ID: <3474162D.2D06@nmrc.ucc.ie> Yeah, I always thought it was "My sellotape days are over" instead of "My celibate days are over" in "My Wandering Days Are Over". Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 20 11:07:45 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:07:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: cover me badd References: <971119112217_379321795@mrin58.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <34741A01.3747@virgin.net> ByTheSea6 at aol.com wrote: > >A bit out of date, but... > >I know of two bands who do B&S covers. > >The first is Polar Bear, who are now called something else, and who > >did loads in their soundcheck at the Intercity Crawl. > The band is called SnowPatrol now. Sorry to be pedantic, but it's actually snow patrol with no capitals, and they're another Jeepster band! Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 20 11:07:40 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:07:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: References: <01bcf533$2f47c0a0$ad885c90@nn.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <347419FC.2E54@virgin.net> Blue Thunder wrote: > > Have some chicken soup > and get well soon. What is this? Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 20 11:07:42 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:07:42 +0000 Subject: [Fwd: Sinister: Benefit Gig] References: <34734420.7B4F551C@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <347419FE.14B7@virgin.net> > Hi all, > On the 2nd December there is a benefit gig (Aids awareness I think) > at the Thirteenth Note in Glasgow. The line up is Pastels, BMX Bandits > and Eugenius - tickets on sale soon. > > Anyway ... the new rumour is that B&S will also be playing on the night. > Anyone confirm this? It's gonna be an amazing night! Yep, I can confirm that Belle and Sebastian, ARE playing this gig, but it is more likely to be only 3-4 members on the night, and they're doing covers and not B&S songs. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 11:07:56 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:07:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: mundane B&S content Message-ID: <199711201054.KAA28334@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> I was in HMV in the Trocadero (Rockadero!) Center in London. IFYFS was proudly on display at one of the listening posts. I'd love to say that a crowd of ne'er-do-well pop kids was fighting to get at it. That was not the case. However I like to think that some inquiring mind was attracted and had a listen and was thrilled by what they found. Alternateen - great name. Please provide a short description of what's involved. My fave. socio-fashion groupy name is Trustafarian. Namely the spoilt children of well to do English families who can pretend to live an ethnic/spiritual lifestyle and sample hard drugs at source due to their prodigious income thanks to Daddy's trust fund. Good place to find them always used to be the smoking section of the Edinburgh University Library cafeteria. hot love john xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 11:40:39 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:40:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: misheard lyrics Message-ID: <199711201138.LAA15313@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Sven wrote: > Yeah, I always thought it was "My sellotape days are over" instead of > > "My celibate days are over" in "My Wandering Days Are Over". > And why, in the same song, does it say: "The circus boy is feeling melancholy, Cannelloni, kinda stupid..."? 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For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Thu Nov 20 11:55:08 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:55:08 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199711201153.LAA01182@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> >Yeah, I always thought it was "My sellotape days are over" instead of >"My celibate days are over" in "My Wandering Days Are Over". God, you lot must have ether really bad speakers or really bad hearing! : ) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 11:25:06 1997 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:25:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: NBSC Message-ID: 'llo, does anybody know what edinburgh band Foil are like, coz they're supporting the fall on friday and i wanta know. thankssssss kate ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 11:29:04 1997 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:29:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: NBSC snoo patrol In-Reply-To: <971119112217_379321795@mrin58.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: > >I know of two bands who do B&S covers. > >The first is Polar Bear, who are now called something else, and who > >did loads in their soundcheck at the Intercity Crawl. > > The band is called SnowPatrol now. my mate's made their new video. i stood on the set 'nd ate rocky road and felt sick. there were lots of boys there. sorry 'bout this terrible message, am not alive kate ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 11:34:41 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:34:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: mundane B&S content Message-ID: <01bcf5a8$4a633de0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Alternateen - great name. Please provide a short description of what's >involved. My fave. socio-fashion groupy name is Trustafarian. Namely the >spoilt children of well to do English families who can pretend to live >an ethnic/spiritual lifestyle and sample hard drugs at source due to >their prodigious income thanks to Daddy's trust fund. Good place to find >them always used to be the smoking section of the Edinburgh University >Library cafeteria. Know where you mean. "Ethno-Yahs" then >hot love Spooky enough, been listening to T-Rex's Electric Warrior at work today. Keith ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 17:40:39 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:40:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: The mist is clearing..... Message-ID: Just a thankyou to the fan club for this mornings timely mail out. It was nice to finally get some concrete info on the Manchester gigs and hopefully by the end of the day my own ticket purchasing will be at a mature stage. Out of interest...Will this mail out info be put on the list?, because i'm sure many people are reading this and are panicing. Also.. with the no doubt frantic scramble to purchase tickets, will the list or in particular, David and Katrina, keep us up to date with how sales are going? ie when ticket avalability is stretched and indeed when they sell out? Thanks again to the fan club (David and Katrina)It is just the two of you isn't it? I wouldn't want to offend anyone(else)!! Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Thu Nov 20 12:56:41 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:56:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: benefit gig Message-ID: <199711201255.MAA10579@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> > ...at the Thirteenth Note in Glasgow. The line up is Pastels, BMX Bandits > and Eugenius - tickets on sale soon. F**k! I've just spent 350 pounds on stuff for my computer at the weekend, completely forgetting I'd need to save some money for the Manchester concerts, and now this! Oh well, I guess Christmas is cancelled for my family this year!! : ) Who's going through from Edinburgh? How are you getting through? And where the hell's 'The Thirteenth Note'? I don't know Glasgow at all. I drove through for the Moir Hall gig, and got completely lost. Anyways, see you all there, John. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From GUSRAT at xxx.com Thu Nov 20 13:33:58 1997 From: GUSRAT at xxx.com (GUSRAT at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:33:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re:sinister: cover me badd Message-ID: <971120083357_1171339923@mrin40.mail.aol.com> My band is playing in the West Village saturday night. We have 4 B&S songs in our set list. Anyone in living in NYC? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From phusa at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 13:48:45 1997 From: phusa at xxx.uk (Ben Trevail) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 13:48:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Gigs ! Message-ID: Can someone please please please e-mail the ticket details for Manchester because Postie failed to deliver my mailout this morning, and I seem to have missed Katrina's message to this list. Thanks alot, much appreciated. Ben ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 14:16:23 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:16:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: misheard lyrics In-Reply-To: <199711201138.LAA15313@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Hopkins T wrote: > Sven wrote: > > Yeah, I always thought it was "My sellotape days are over" instead of > > > > "My celibate days are over" in "My Wandering Days Are Over". > > > And why, in the same song, does it say: > "The circus boy is feeling melancholy, > Cannelloni, kinda stupid..."? > Tim Get ye to www.kissthisguy.com (as in "excuse me while I kiss this guy") Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Intunative: adj. Mentally hearing a song begin on an album seconds | before it actually plays ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 14:26:37 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 14:26:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Gigs ! Message-ID: <01BCF5C0.4FF34440@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> >Can someone please please please e-mail the ticket details for Manchester because Postie failed to deliver my mailout this morning, and I seem to have missed Katrina's message to this list. Thanks alot, much appreciated. Er, me too. I don't think Katrina's posting has reached the list yet? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 15:15:37 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:15:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #69 In-Reply-To: <971120001019_-1172717833@mrin42.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 OLDSCHREC at aol.com wrote: > I heard the next single "Modern Rock Song" was pushed back to early Jan. '98 > release. Is that definitely the next single? Cause I thought it was fabulous when they played it on the Mark Radcliffe session. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Intunative: adj. Mentally hearing a song begin on an album seconds | before it actually plays ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Thu Nov 20 15:29:26 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:29:26 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199711201527.PAA00555@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> >Can someone please please please e-mail the ticket details for Manchester >because Postie failed to deliver my mailout this morning, and I seem to >have missed Katrina's message to this list. Yeah come on folks. Will someone please send the detials onto the list soon. Cheers, John. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 15:27:51 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 15:27:51 GMT Subject: Sinister: just a coupla' things Message-ID: <971120152751.n0005535.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Cheers for the mail out David and Katrina. However, Sarah's contribution has now really put me off writing to the band, as from the sounds of it they all sit round and take the piss out of everyone's letters !!!! Is it only me who thinks that Stuart Murdoch is singing Le Pastie de La Borgeoisie in the 'club style'. Overseas readers you won't get that one, so don't worry. Lastly. Is Stuart Murdoch gay? Just being curious thats all, nothing funny, but is he? susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 15:51:47 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 15:51:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: fluff Message-ID: <971120155147.n0005539.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Saw the singer from the Tindersticks in Islington the day before yesterday, in a music shop, playing a guitar, didn't do anything about it as I'm not really in the habit of talking to people in bands I like , I would most likely say something embarrasing. It reminds me of when one of my friends bumped into Jack Dee in Newcastle once (she was a big fan of his) and stopped him in the street. She opened by saying "you must be a bit lost, can I show you around the city?" To which Jack Dee replied "yeah sure, where you going to take me then?" This really threw her, as she expected him to say no, or ignore her or something, and for some reason she said: "to my boudoir!" !!!!!!!!!! Apparently she then went red, made her excuses and left very quickly Although having said that I don't talk to famous people, saw Brian Molko at the Garage the other night (will that man never stay in???) and I was bit under the influence, and sort of went " BRIA fffllllfffmmmnnnggg" and he ran away. Probably thought his stalker had metamorphosed. susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 20 15:55:03 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 15:55:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester tickets Message-ID: <34745D57.570D@virgin.net> Well, I wasn't going to do it until tonight, as no-one was supposed to get the mail-outs until tomorrow morning, and then you'd all have the info at the same time ... BUT, to stop the fighting, here goes: Belle and Sebastian are playing the Manchester Town Hall on Saturday the 27th and Sunday the 28th of Decemeber. There will be no support band on the Saturday (hoping for some DJ's eg David Holmes), however Future Pilot support on the Sunday night. The capacity per night is 750 which includes guest list, so only 700 tickets for sale per night. We have managed to secure 350 per night for those on the fan-club and e-mailing lists. Tickets from the fan club are available to those paying by cheque/postal order ONLY! (This includes international money orders/Eurocheques etc.). NO cash or credit card payments will be accepted. There will be a maximum of five tickets per transaction, and each ticket is subject to a booking fee (which includes postage and packaging costs). Tickets cost £9 plus the 70 pence booking fee, total cost per ticket is £9.70 EACH. All cheques/postal orders/IMO's/ Eurocheques etc., are to be made payable to FOUNDATION and posted to 191 Alexandra Park Road, London, N22 4BJ, England. DO NOT send your ticket orders to the fan club PO Box address or to the band, as your order will not be processed, and you'll regrettably miss out. Your tickets will be dispatched within two weeks of cheque clearance. For those of you who wish to buy your tickets in person, or by credit card, there are a few outlets to do so from: # Piccadilly Records in Manchester (speak to Laura 'cos she's lovely!) on 0161 839 8008 (usual shop type hours, try not to phone on Saturdays though as they're incredibly busy then and probably wouldn't be so lovely). (in person) # The Piccadilly Box Office inside the Virgin Megastore, Market Street, Manchester on 0161 832 1111 (9am to 9pm seven days a week). (in person + c/card) # Stargreen Box Office on 0171 734 8932. (c/card) Ticket prices are still £9 each, but will be subject to a booking fee at the outlet's discretion. Please phone the outlets for more information. There will not be any tickets for sale on the night at the gigs, so if you want to go, you'd better get your mitts on a ticket now! And David will mail the whole mail-out to the list tomorrow, which includes a competetion to win tickets to the Sunday night show. Get busy you lot. Cheers, Katrina. ps - meeting info for the sunday coming soon! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 15:55:32 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 15:55:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: and last but not least........... Message-ID: <971120155532.n0005540.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Belle and sebastian on the radio... The music right at the end of that track, in one particular part , sounds like the music to Star Trek. Right thats it, I'm done. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 19:23:38 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:23:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Manchester tickets References: <34745D57.570D@virgin.net> Message-ID: <34748E3A.7829A35E@colon.net.> Katrina at Jeepster wrote: > Belle and Sebastian are playing the Manchester Town Hall > on Saturday the > 27th and Sunday the 28th of Decemeber. Sunday is the Lord's day. I shall be unable to attend. I shall be reading my leather-bound bible and fingering my heavily starched collar. > There will be no support band on > the Saturday (hoping for some DJ's eg David Holmes), > however Future > Pilot support on the Sunday night. The capacity per night > is 750 which > includes guest list, so only 700 tickets for sale per > night. Fifty on the guest list! Blimey! Will any mums and dads be in attendance on this occasion? > We have > managed to secure 350 per night for those on the fan-club > and e-mailing > lists. That's about one each then. No it isn't, I'm forgetting the non-computerised masses. > > > Tickets from the fan club are available to those paying by > cheque/postal > order ONLY! (This includes international money > orders/Eurocheques > etc.). NO cash or credit card payments will be accepted. > There will be > a maximum of five tickets per transaction, Whish scuppers my plans for becoming an evil ticket tout. I was going to be one when Pink Floyd graced the local football stadium but I didn't have any money to make the initial outlay. Good job too, because it wasn't sold out in the end. They had a big gong. I like groups with big gongs. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 19:10:07 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:10:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Gay Stu References: <971120152751.n0005535.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <34748B0F.BFAB622B@colon.net.> > Lastly. Is Stuart Murdoch gay? Just being curious thats > all, nothing funny, but > is he? > Most of the time he sounds quite miserable, but there is the odd outbreak of gaiety from time to time. Boom boom!! The last time the subject of Mister Murdoch's sexual orientation came up on the list, everybody seemed to end up agreeing on some bizarre theory that nowadays people are fairly unconcerned about defining their sexuality. Duke came up with something vaguely similar a few days ago about the decline of the family (correct me if I'm wrong). Some of the songs appear to be from a homosexual point of view, but personally I only think that's there if you want it to be there. In my opinion Stuart falls somewhere between the two extremes of Lemmy and Liberace. He is probably AC/DC, or at least Thin Lizzy. Boom boom!! again. The only way to really answer this question is to spring a "love trap" on him, and see if he goes for the girl or the boy, or both. I'm too far away to take part in this intriguing investigation, so someone else will have to take on the responsibility. Or we could just ask Katrina... The Major ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 19:44:00 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 19:44:00 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Gay Stu In-Reply-To: <34748B0F.BFAB622B@colon.net.> Message-ID: On Thu, 20 Nov 1997, Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta wrote: > The only way to really answer this question is to spring a > "love trap" on him, and see if he goes for the girl or the > boy, or both. I'm too far away to take part in this > intriguing investigation, so someone else will have to take > on the responsibility. Or we could just ask Katrina... Well funny you say that. Someone else on the list (pen name ce ce peniston) is privately begging me to set up a Sinister Blind Date with me in the role of Cilla. So if anyone wants to send in their details, height, weight, likes/dislikes and favourite foods, I will set up an agency and match you all up. Oh and you better add details of your sexuality. ce ce gets first refusal as he (sorry Chris) asked first. I'm banking on the two list people who "met" - where was it, in a library or bookshop? Who's going to buy me a hat for the wedding? Obviously I'll wipe this message from the archive so Stooey doesn't cotton on. Oh, better add something of vague relevance: to all the people asking about the competition: it isn't forgotten honestly! All the entries are on the Fan Club pages and most of the judges have returned their verdicts. P ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Thu Nov 20 20:31:04 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 97 20:31:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: Gay Stu References: <34748B0F.BFAB622B@colon.net.> Message-ID: <971120203104.n0005551.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 20 Nov 97, Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta wrote... >The only way to really answer this question is to spring a >"love trap" on him, and see if he goes for the girl or the >boy, or both. I'm too far away to take part in this >intriguing investigation, so someone else will have to take >on the responsibility. >The Major > Oh, GO ON THEN , I will (can't you just sense the reluctance). But, I know what you are saying about merging sexuality these days. I mean, strictly i fancy men, but ever so often a girl comes along and I just think WOW, only its in a very romantic kind of way, and i don't actually feel sexual towards women. However I do really go for boys that look like girls, and the more they look like girls the better. I think that females are the most physically attractive of the sexes by far, and the closer men get to that, the more I am attracted to them, but the whole sex thing with a women, I just don't think I could do, Occasionally I kiss my flatmate (who is very beautiful) but thats as far as it goes. susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TFertig3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 20 21:33:16 1997 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 16:33:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <971120163315_2105665858@mrin46.mail.aol.com> I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just wondering who are they and are they any good?? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 20:55:22 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 20:55:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Official Belle and Seabstian Mail Out Message-ID: <3474A3BA.C24442C@totalweb.co.uk> Just in case you delete this, remember that a copy of this mail-out can be found on the Fan Club site at http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ -- Belle and Sebastian -- Well, we promised we'd let you know what was happening on the gig front, so here's the confirmed details: Belle and Sebastian are playing the Manchester Town Hall on Saturday 27th and Sunday 28th December. There will be no support band on the Saturday night, however Future Pilot will be playing the Sunday night. Now, as we know an awful lot of want to go to these gigs, we've managed to secure 350 tickets per night to sell via the fan club. Yaaaayyyy! We hear you all scream. Well, this is how it's going to work. The Tickets set aside for the fan club are available to those paying by cheque/postal order ONLY! (This includes international money orders/Eurocheques etc.). NO cash or credit card payments will be accepted. There will be a maximum of four tickets per transaction, and each ticket is subject to a booking fee (which includes postage and packaging costs). Tickets cost £9 plus the 70 pence booking fee, total cost per ticket is £9.70 EACH. All cheques/postal orders/IMO's/ Eurocheques etc., are to be made payable to FOUNDATION and posted to 191 Alexandra Park Road, London, N22 4BJ, England. DO NOT send your ticket orders to the fan club PO Box address or to the band, as your order will not be processed, and you'll regrettably miss out. Your tickets will be dispatched within two weeks of cheque clearance. For those of you who wish to buy your tickets in person, or by credit card, there are a few outlets to do so from: Tickets for the Manchester gig are available; in person at: Piccadilly Records on Oldham Street, Manchester (speak to Laura 'cos she's lovely!). by Credit Card at: Stargreen UK Ticket Outlets on 0171 734 8932 and in person & by Credit Card at: The Piccadilly Box Office inside the Virgin Megastore, Market Street, Manchester. 0161 832 1111 (9am to 9pm seven days a week). Ticket prices are still £9 each, but will be subject to a booking fee at the outlet's discretion. Please phone the outlets for more information. There will not be any tickets for sale on the night at the gigs, so if you want to go, you'd better get your mitts on a ticket now! Or, you could try to win a pair! Just look below and enter the fab and groovy compo to try a more risky but cheaper way of acquiring tickets. -- Competition -- Yes, it's competition time again, and if you can answer the following question correctly, you will go into the draw to win a pair of tickets to the Sunday (28/12) night show, plus maybe some other bits and bobs. Ok, the question is; What football team do (the majority) of Belle and Sebastian support? All answers on a track and field postcard to the PO Box address below (e-mail entries will not be accepted), and if you win, you'll be winging your way to Liverpool and Widnes, well, no Manchester really, to see B&S live! The competition closes on the 12th December, and the winner will be notified by phone (so please include a daytime phone number) by 19th December. Good luck! And here's another reason to get to the Manchester gigs - we've had a lot of people inquiring about the Judy and the Dream of Horses mugs, which sold out at the Kelvingrove/QM gig. Well they're back in production, and there will be another limited run, this time 300, to be sold exclusively at the Manchester gigs. We would sell them through the fan-club, however the P&P costs are extortionate, and we don't want to take the risk of stock being damaged in the post, so mugs at gigs it's going to be. Isobel is also designing another badge or two, these will be a button badge design (similar to the original Dog On Wheels badges), and there's even rumours of Belle and Sebastian stickers too, so please come and visit us at the merchandise stall at Manchester to find out what's new. Rest assured the badges and stickers will be available by mail order too, so keep sending your stamps, and you'll keep getting more info! Speaking of merchandise, we've got the brown and silver Belle and Sebastian prefect badges back in stock again, as well as the yellow/green large bus design T-shirts. The badges are £2 each, postage is free if you order another item (T-shirt/CD etc.), or enclose a SAE or extra 50 pence per badge if you're ordering them on their own. The yellow/green large bus T-shirt is £8 plus UK £1.50, Europe £2 and ROW £3.50 postage. If you need another merchandise leaflet, just write and let us know, and we'll send one out. Unfortunately, we have run out of the orange/brown medium bus T-shirts, so the only bus designs left are the yellow/green in small, medium and large, or the orange/brown in small only. Now onto other news, as you may have gathered by now, the London and Paris gigs didn't end up by going ahead. After the Manchester shows, Belle and Sebastian will probably play some gigs to coincide with the release of the Modern Rock Song EP (Jan/Feb '98), and the as-yet-untitled third album (Feb/Mar '98). There will be more news about both of these releases in the next proper mailout. On the Internet front the bands own web-site at http://www.totalweb.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ is going to feature the creative efforts of all band members in the near future, well worth using the school computers for. Oh, and one last internet thingy, Belle and Sebastian are hopefully going to participate in an internet forum chat in early December, where you can ask the band all the questions you've ever wanted answered! We don't have any details as yet, but closer to the time there should be information on both of the above-mentioned web-sites. -- Another note regarding the Manchester gigs. We are attempting to arrange a meeting-point for fans going to the gigs, and should have more details closer to the dates. If you are heading up to Manchester, and would like to meet up with other people, please phone us at home AFTER the 15th December, when we will have something sorted out. If you have any suggestions about meeting places i.e. pubs/coffee bars close to the Town Hall in Manchester, then please phone BEFORE the 15th December. Our number is 0181 560 1815 - please call between 8pm and 11pm only, and try to avoid clashes with Eastenders or any Friday night comedy, whether it be on BBC2 or Channel 4! Or as you're on the net use the feedback form to let us know your suggestions. -- . . . and here's a bit from the band. -- "At Katrina's request, here is an update from the flightdeck on how we're all managing to squander our leisure time these days. This is your Captain Sarah. A new LP is finished, or as good as finished recording anyway. The studio is too busy for us to mix it just now, and so we've gone and got ourselves an office with three desks, a couple of plants, a kettle and some pictures. Stuart Murdoch has been redefining office-boy chic. We like to think we're a finely-tuned, efficient machine with our fax machines and desks and in-and-out trays, but really our main activity is sitting around wondering at the mental health of some of the people who have written to us, and listening to Stuart David's brutal character-assaniations of our correspondents. Some kind person sent a picture of George Best in a nice pair of shorts, for which I will be eternally grateful, but I'd been away to see the Violent Femmes in London, so I don't know who it was from. I think it's fair to say games consoles are becoming influential on some of our lives. Chris and Richard have had a PlayStation habit for quite a while, and I have a clear memory of Stuart David looking for cheat book for Tomb Raider. While I was visiting my friend Gerry at the weekend, we got carried away in Woolworth's and came home with a Nintendo 64 and the Star Wars game. Since then, I've been struggling to find a reason to leave the flat. Yesterday, Boba Fett got what was coming to him, and I blasted his ship for good measure. On Tuesday, Stevie was round and said "Bah! Computer games!", but within minutes he was one of us. Side-projects are appearing all over the place too. Wee Chris and Stevie have been backing up New York power pop genius Michael Shelley in the studio and in a couple of gigs. The Two Brothers (my hobby band) will have to be put on hold until Teenage Fanclub's tour is finshed, at which point we'll go back to our gin-fuelled acoustic roots after a disastrous gig of Pastels cover versions. We've just said we'll do a radio show - Beat Patrol - on Radio Scotland on December 21st. A Belle and Sebastian Christmas special. Then the Manchester gigs, with support from Future Pilot and some DJ's on the Saturday. We're working on a few versions for a support slot we'll be doing, so our repertoire could be more varied the next time we hit your town" -- Belle & Sebastian, PO Box 14153, London SW11 4XU, UK -- Yeah, we know it was a long wait for that, but what with the details changing every two seconds we even had to update the paper version a day before we posted it and re-did all of this one. Any updates will again be posted to the sinister list and announced on the Fan Club site at the URL below. thanks David Katrina ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Nov 20 23:52:33 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:52:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Gay Stu References: <34748B0F.BFAB622B@colon.net.> <971120203104.n0005551.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <3474CD41.F1ACF714@totalweb.co.uk> susannah wrote: > on 20 Nov 97, Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta wrote... > > >The only way to really answer this question is to spring a > >"love trap" on him, and see if he goes for the girl or the > >boy, or both. I'm too far away to take part in this > >intriguing investigation, so someone else will have to take > >on the responsibility. > > Oh, GO ON THEN , I will (can't you just sense the reluctance). > > But, I know what you are saying about merging sexuality these days. > I mean, strictly i fancy men, but ever so often a girl comes along and I just > think WOW, only its in a very romantic kind of way, and i don't actually feel > sexual towards women. However I do really go for boys that look like girls, and > the more they look like girls the better. > I think that females are the most physically attractive of the sexes by far, and > the closer men get to that, the more I am attracted to them, but the whole sex > thing with a women, I just don't think I could do, Occasionally I kiss my > flatmate (who is very beautiful) but thats as far as it goes. we should be careful with this thread, someone may be tapping in the words deviant sexuality in alta vista and pulling up the sinister archives :) stuart's straight, or at least he is at the mo', i think he's more mad and disturbed genius than melting pot of sexuality though. as for personal swayings, well i've shifted sand so many times i'm surprised i've not just given up and made some money in the process. i once did a dare with someone to see how many people we could kiss and the only way to win when we ran out of girls was to start kissing the boys. i don't really look at boys or girls and view them as attractive or unattractive, they either inspire and excite me or they bore me to tears. all of the experimentation is past now i'm with katrina, but i still remember the years working out which way i should be facing and wearing velour hats into heathrow airport to work. david (suddenly feeling like i've said too much) -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 09:03:53 1997 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:03:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <1885412E49@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> > I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just wondering > who are they and are they any good?? They are an American band (or rather a bloke called Stephin Merrit, with various collaboraters and musicians who seem to change each album),...sound a bit similar to B&S..., they are absolutely brilliant and you should go out and buy all their records now and come to my disco and dance to them too!!!....recommended releases: all of them but especially the 2 album CD "The Wayward Bus/ Distant plastic trees" and the "House of tomorrow" EP Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rich at xxx.uk> Fri Nov 21 12:42:25 1997 From: rich at xxx.uk> (rich at xxx.uk>) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:42:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 and Photo Message-ID: <971121124225.92e@gw.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk> Hi, This is my first post so be gentle with me ..... Last night I was listening to Steve Pacamac or Lurpak (whichever you prefer) & he was doing a voting competition type thing about this years Evening Sessions. He played bits of 10 sessions as suggestions for listeners to vote for, and B&S were about number 7/8. So you know what to do - vote for B&S. But what confused me was that he also sort of said was that the B&S Evening Session is going to be repeated next week. So let's hope it is going to be repeated so those without it can record it. A question that I would like to know the answer to is... On the back cover of If You're Feeling Sinister there's a photo with about 8/9 people in it and I was wondering if it's a band photo and if so, who's who? I haven't seen the band yet and would like to tie up faces to names. That's all for now, Richard _________________________ rich at rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk Telephone (01793) 785308 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 12:50:39 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (*James* :)) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:50:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Some Questions In-Reply-To: <34745D57.570D@virgin.net> Message-ID: Although these questions have probably already been asked, i would like to find out a few things which puzzle me... 1) On a Century of Elvis, who is doing the talking? 2) Has anyone transcribed the whole of the speech, since on the inlay of the ep it only has the first few lines; 3) Who are all the people on the back of IYFS? You all probably know the answers so i expect lots of replys! Has everyone got/ordered their tickets for Manchester yet? What'll happen if everyone on this list sends off for 3 or 4 tickets? since then there wont be enuff. b-bye JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Fri Nov 21 13:27:48 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:27:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Some Questions Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971121132748.00676188@student.let.uva.nl> >Has everyone got/ordered their tickets for Manchester yet? What'll happen >if everyone on this list sends off for 3 or 4 tickets? since then there >wont be enuff. Don't worry, I don't think everyone will order tickets. Some unlucky people actually do _not_ live in Great Britain, and if they're even more unlucky, they'll be living in a country where B&S aren't doing any gigs, like Holland :( Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 13:35:44 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (***Rob B*** :)) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:35:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: a century of elvis: Message-ID: Here you go then James, we were sitting in the living room on the sofa, the wrong way round, looking out the window. it was quiet, and then in the car park across the road we saw elvis - look, there beside the postman's van, looking in the open door - he looked as if he was thinking about getting in, but then the postman came back, and he swaggered off, up past the window and down the stairs, and then to the bottom of the stairs right by the caretaker's office, and he started licking the pavement. every night now since we moved in that new house there's this noise outside the door at just about half seven or eight o' clock every night. and if we go and look outside the door, elvis'll be standing there waiting to be let in. and then he wanders round the living room, maybe sits down on one of the chairs or even lies down on the floor. he doesn't say much, he just lies there for an hour or two, watching the tv. we talk to him a bit, and then about ten o' clock, he'll go away again, and not come back until the next night. there's a lot of lakes and stuff around here, around the house - although it's right in the middle of the city it seems quite like the country, it's been hidden - safe i suppose, made for night living. there's a lot of squirrels and birds, and stuart says he's seen about nine foxes there when he's jumped over the fence on his way to prior's road. sometimes you can go out walking, and when you've been out for a wee while even you don't know where you are anymore, so it would be pretty hard for anyone else to find you. i suppose that's why he spends so much time there, that's why he's come to live there, or maybe it's just the squirrels. i read about somewhere that he likes squirrels quite a lot. there's these two videos that we got for wedding presents - called the e-files, e-files one and e-files two about how elvis is supposed to be still alive. and one time when he came round we were watching one of those, but he didn't say anything he just sat on the armchair. it was pretty much the colour of it, and we watched it right through and then when it finished he just got up and walked off into the mist and didn't say anything. the first few times he came round i didn't speak to him at all, i wasn't really sure what to say. pam spoke to him quite a lot - she seemed to know what to do more than i do. they have quite strange manners, they just went through your stuff and looked through it, then maybe pick something up and play with it for a wee while, but they'd never make any comment about any of it. seemed pretty rude to me. i just watched whatever was happening with him - less than pam, she talked to him and then, after a while i started to copy that, tell him a few things, not really bothered about whether he responded or said anything back or not. i think the first time i spoke to him we were sitting up on the desk and i said that i would tell him about you, me and pam, and how it was that it we came to be living there. i thought he probably liked the fact that we were living there because he came round so much, so i thought he might want to know how it was that it came about. we did it all over backwards until now. first of all we got to know each other, and then we met, and when we'd known each other for about seven years we decided to have an anniversary, and that went quite well, so after the anniversary we had a honeymoon, and that went well too, so after that we decided that we'd get married. that's why we're living here now. i used to think my dad was elvis, but i haven't told him that yet. i haven't told my dad either... I know there are loads of mistakes in it... I'd appreciate it if anyone could correct any of the more obvious ones, 'cos there are bits I just can't seem to work out. Love, Rob P.S. talking about misheard lyrics, I thought it was '..there's these two vineyards that we got for wedding presents..' and that confused me a lot! ------------------------------------------------------------- **"..give yourself up to the allure of catcher in the rye..." ------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinsel82 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 13:47:09 1997 From: tinsel82 at xxx.com (Anna Litinski) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 05:47:09 PST Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <19971121134709.12992.qmail@hotmail.com> >> I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just wondering >> who are they and are they any good?? > >They are an American band (or rather a bloke called Stephin Merrit, >with various collaboraters and musicians who seem to change each >album),...sound a bit similar to B&S..., they are absolutely >brilliant and you should go out and buy all their records now and >come to my disco and dance to them too!!!....recommended releases: >all of them but especially the 2 album CD >"The Wayward Bus/ Distant plastic trees" and the "House of tomorrow" >EP > >Chris >C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk > >*** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** > >*** FAX 0114 2727206 *** > >** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** > >"Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" >--------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I heard (in some review or other) that they were sort of like the "world famous" White Town(showing my age?Nev-ah!) Anna xx P.S. I'm new to this list, and when I looked at my in-tray this morning, suddenly there were 60 messages here. F**king hell!!!(staggers away clutching her head) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 13:55:09 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:55:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester fandango In-Reply-To: <3474A3BA.C24442C@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: OK, my turn to ask a few questions... 1, This meeting before the Sunday gig, when details are confirmed, will they be posted to the list or do we all have to ring David & Katrina ourselves? 2, Does anyone out there know anything about Future Pilot? Type of music, whether they're any good or not, etc. 3, What time are the gigs likely to finish? Am I going to have to spend two nights sleeping on someone's floor (cheers Dan!), or can I get back to Yorkshire on the Sunday night? Cheers, Stuart G P.S. After the recent misheard lyrics thread, can someone resolve an argument for me; near the end of the song 'Respect', does Aretha Franklin really sing "R E S P E C T, find out what it means to me. R E S P E C T, take out the TCP." ?!? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 14:06:01 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:06:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 Message-ID: Yep, i voted for B&S as the top radio one session- anyone know if its going to be repeated soon as my version is pretty dud... JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From DaveNicoll at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 14:08:16 1997 From: DaveNicoll at xxx.com (DaveNicoll at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:08:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Tickets Message-ID: <971121090815_1972039685@mrin86.mail.aol.com> Yipeee.... Yipeeee... I've got my ticket! I don't mean to boast to those who've yet to get one, but for anyone having problems trying to get any info from Stargreen try the Piccadilly box office in the Virgin Megastore. They packaged up my tix and sent them to me straight away. Oops... just realised that I shouldn't be shouting too loud as the second ticket is a surprise Chrissie present for someone. Anyway, now that I have the tickets I can start to plan travel and accomodation. Anyone else going down from Edinburgh? Hope the list isn't already awash with messages of this sort. (If not I'm sure it soon will be). David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rich at xxx.uk> Fri Nov 21 12:42:25 1997 From: rich at xxx.uk> (rich at xxx.uk>) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:42:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 and Photo Message-ID: <971121124225.92e@gw.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk> Hi, This is my first post so be gentle with me ..... Last night I was listening to Steve Pacamac or Lurpak (whichever you prefer) & he was doing a voting competition type thing about this years Evening Sessions. He played bits of 10 sessions as suggestions for listeners to vote for, and B&S were about number 7/8. So you know what to do - vote for B&S. But what confused me was that he also sort of said was that the B&S Evening Session is going to be repeated next week. So let's hope it is going to be repeated so those without it can record it. A question that I would like to know the answer to is... On the back cover of If You're Feeling Sinister there's a photo with about 8/9 people in it and I was wondering if it's a band photo and if so, who's who? I haven't seen the band yet and would like to tie up faces to names. That's all for now, Richard _________________________ rich at rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk Telephone (01793) 785308 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 12:50:39 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (*James* :)) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:50:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Some Questions In-Reply-To: <34745D57.570D@virgin.net> Message-ID: Although these questions have probably already been asked, i would like to find out a few things which puzzle me... 1) On a Century of Elvis, who is doing the talking? 2) Has anyone transcribed the whole of the speech, since on the inlay of the ep it only has the first few lines; 3) Who are all the people on the back of IYFS? You all probably know the answers so i expect lots of replys! Has everyone got/ordered their tickets for Manchester yet? What'll happen if everyone on this list sends off for 3 or 4 tickets? since then there wont be enuff. b-bye JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 14:29:32 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:29:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: Ha ha ive finally got a recording of Tigermilk- cheers Ben- its absolutely devine! i especially love Expectations and She's Losing it at the moment. For anyone out there who still hasn't got a copy- you don't know what you're missing JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mameauxm at xxx.ie Fri Nov 21 14:35:32 1997 From: mameauxm at xxx.ie (Marc Mameaux) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:35:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 and Photo References: <971121124225.92e@gw.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34759C34.7201@eeng.dcu.ie> rich at rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk - Richard D Loughman wrote: > > Hi, > > This is my first post so be gentle with me ..... > > Last night I was listening to Steve Pacamac or Lurpak (whichever you prefer) & > he was doing a voting competition type thing about this years Evening Sessions. > He played bits of 10 sessions as suggestions for listeners to vote for, and B&S > were about number 7/8. So you know what to do - vote for B&S. But what > confused me was that he also sort of said was that the B&S Evening Session is > going to be repeated next week. So let's hope it is going to be repeated so > those without it can record it. > Sorry guys, but I need more infos on that Radio 1 program... I'm French and I live in Dublin, so I guess I could record that session if I knew when it's on... Is it a weekly program? Daily? at what time? I'd love to bring back a copy to my friends in France at Christmas if I could tape it. Too bad, I'll be in France when B&S will be on stage... (Drinking French wine and Pastis all day long with my friends) Apologises for my ignorance, A+ Marc xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nioannidis at xxx.gr Fri Nov 21 14:49:01 1997 From: nioannidis at xxx.gr (Nicholas Ioannidis) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:49:01 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Some Questions References: <1.5.4.32.19971121132748.00676188@student.let.uva.nl> Message-ID: <34759F5D.CDC2FCD1@ath.forthnet.gr> Eeyore wrote: > >Has everyone got/ordered their tickets for Manchester yet? What'll happen > >if everyone on this list sends off for 3 or 4 tickets? since then there > >wont be enuff. > > Don't worry, I don't think everyone will order tickets. Some unlucky people > actually do _not_ live in Great Britain, and if they're even more unlucky, > they'll be living in a country where B&S aren't doing any gigs, like Holland :( > How sad and true, likewise no gigs in Greece! (but hoping that will change) Nicholas xox > Eeyore > > "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From matt at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 14:47:35 1997 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:47:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: newbie.... Message-ID: <01BCF68C.6876C600@manray.impressions-gallery.com> hello all I've only just got around to subscribing to this list, despite being a B&S fine for quite a while... It seems s lot of of fun, and will make a change from the overly serious art/culture/technology lists that I subscribe to (but hey, thats my job....) Reading some of the back mailings and other B&S websites (I never knew there were so many!) is it true that tigermilk sells for £300 now? Sheesh, thats a lot o' shekels.... not being smug or anything, but i got 2 copies! I was but a lowly washer-up in a restaurant in Brighton when I heard Mark Radcliffe first play 'The state I'm in' and then later scribbled Electric Honey's address onto the back of a dill pickle jar. One quick cheque later and tigermilk arrived in a smart brown envelope. My girlfriend holly loved it as well, so when I was back in Galasgow visiting friends (I was at Art School there 1990-1995) I managed to get a second hand copy from missing records on the great western road for £4!!! Since then I've got respectable and work full time in a gallery in York, so Holly's moved in with me and we have two copies in our collection! before anyone asks, we're not interested in offers, either... We also managed to see the union chapel gig, which was amazing, but I don't think we'll make it to manchester, so please post reports if you go... Incidentally, if there are any glasgow based fans on this list, I used to dj around Glasgow, playing a mix of rare groove funk jazz cheese latin and hip hop. Me and tom (my flatmate) used to do every fraiday at nico's, and occasional nights at bar 10, miros and various other haunts. We used to run a very underattended (ie empty!) night at the 13th note called lingo, but I think I'll draw a veil over that. If anyone used to go to nicos, or heard us on sweet/subcity fm, then drop us a line, as I'd love to hear from ya. York is *very* boring in comparison, so I miss my hedonistic former existence!!! s'all for now... matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 13:48:03 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:48:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Some Questions Message-ID: <01bcf684$1673b910$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >1) On a Century of Elvis, who is doing the talking? Stuart David >2) Has anyone transcribed the whole of the speech, since on the inlay of >the ep it only has the first few lines; Don't know >3) Who are all the people on the back of IYFS? Belle and Sebastian. In reply to the other guy's post it's quite hard to identify. Stuart's sitting down, I can see Mick but the rest are pretty hard to pick out really, I haven't got it in front of me today. Won't be in at the Egg next this weekend Paul - got to go and visit my parents and pick up my stricken fan-beltless car - was there last week though, and you weren't (This could constitute a breach of contract!) Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Fri Nov 21 13:27:48 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:27:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Some Questions Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971121132748.00676188@student.let.uva.nl> >Has everyone got/ordered their tickets for Manchester yet? What'll happen >if everyone on this list sends off for 3 or 4 tickets? since then there >wont be enuff. Don't worry, I don't think everyone will order tickets. Some unlucky people actually do _not_ live in Great Britain, and if they're even more unlucky, they'll be living in a country where B&S aren't doing any gigs, like Holland :( Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9369911y at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 15:21:22 1997 From: 9369911y at xxx.uk (Simon Young) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:21:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: I wish I could even describe where the Thirteenth note is, but it would be too confusing and I dont even know the street name (I've only lived here for four years). There'll be somebody who knows the name, its on the tip of my tongue. I was curious to know if other ppl who live in glasgow have the same kind of bizarre feeling I get when B&S get talked about by ppl in far away places. I know I'll probably see a member of the band around the west end every week and it's hard to think of them as stars and not ordinary people doing a job. I saw Sarah Martin this morning on Church St, both of us eating lunch in a rush as I was getting back to work in my department. There's something embarrassing about going along stuffing your face. Simon Y ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 14:20:34 1997 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:20:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: NBSC Message-ID: <0002D5BD.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> 'llo, does anybody know what edinburgh band Foil are like, coz they're supporting the fall on friday and i wanta know. thankssssss kate Pretty noisy, scuzzy and didn't really appeal to me - what I've heard of them anyway. Not much of a description I know, but I don't think you'll be blown away by them. The Archdeacon of Pop ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.230) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 0002C2EA; Thu, 20 Nov 97 12:44:24 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA01450 for sinister-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:07:57 GMT Received: from nameserv.eca.ac.uk (nameserv.eca.ac.uk [194.81.90.5]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA01446 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:07:55 GMT Received: from mail-gw.eca.ac.uk by nameserv.eca.ac.uk with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.3) id AA213547751; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 12:09:11 GMT Received: From LEONARDO/WORKQUEUE by mail-gw.eca.ac.uk via Charon-4.0A-VROOM with IPX id 100.971120112553.576; 20 Nov 97 12:09:11 +0000 Message-Id: From: "KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON" <96a10193 at xxx.uk> Organization: Edinburgh College of Art To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:25:06 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Subject: Sinister: NBSC X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.54) Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON" <96a10193 at eca.ac.uk> From 95516123 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 14:16:18 1997 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:16:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: indie record auction for a poor college kid Message-ID: <0002D5BA.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> hi!! i am holding a big mess of a record auction because i need money to help me through college... there are tons of sarah goodies and stuff from slumberland, bus stop, elefant, harriet, etc etc. i am holding an auction because i didn't know how to price most of these so don't feel intimidated! bid away please! :) thank you! larry bonk A list of what you are auctioning might be quite useful. Archie. p.s. I know this is extremely doubtful, but if anyone would like buy one of my two copies of Mansun's first 7" 'Take it easy chicken' on their own Sci-Fi-Hi-Fi label, feel free to e-mail me off-list with a bid. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.168) by csunt1.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00001A8C; Thu, 20 Nov 97 09:39:59 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id IAA13717 for sinister-outgoing; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:51:29 GMT Received: from mrin86.mail.aol.com (mrin86.mx.aol.com [198.81.19.196]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA13712 for ; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 08:51:20 GMT From: YoeyGoey at xxx.com Received: (from root at localhost) by mrin86.mail.aol.com (8.8.5/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id DAA09842; Thu, 20 Nov 1997 03:51:32 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 03:51:32 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <971120035130_195210334 at mrin86.mail.aol.com> To: scan-indie at lysator.liu.se, jamboree at yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au, sinister at majordomo.net, indiepop-list at eskimo.com, SNCYTHGRL at aol.com, pop-culture-list at mindless.com Subject: Sinister: indie record auction for a poor college kid Precedence: bulk Reply-To: YoeyGoey at aol.com From c9712536 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 21:02:55 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:02:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: We can't get enough? Message-ID: B+S on the Radio and TV. ------------------------ Just a couple of points..... 1. In the mail out it was mentioned that B+S 'might' be appearing on 'Later with Jools Holland' on the 29th November(i think, sorry haven't got it at hand)...any concrete info or developments?. 2. Also...on the grape vine people keep talking about 'Evening sessions' on Radio1 and there occurences. Whats happening here then? - are there any up and coming sessions planned or are any going to be repeated?(i've never heard one - so sad) And finally.....gigs are great and all are trying.....but can the list be told of any up and coming: TV appearances or Radio Sessions in general? Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 12:50:39 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (*James* :)) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:50:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Some Questions In-Reply-To: <34745D57.570D@virgin.net> Message-ID: Although these questions have probably already been asked, i would like to find out a few things which puzzle me... 1) On a Century of Elvis, who is doing the talking? 2) Has anyone transcribed the whole of the speech, since on the inlay of the ep it only has the first few lines; 3) Who are all the people on the back of IYFS? You all probably know the answers so i expect lots of replys! Has everyone got/ordered their tickets for Manchester yet? What'll happen if everyone on this list sends off for 3 or 4 tickets? since then there wont be enuff. b-bye JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rich at xxx.uk> Fri Nov 21 12:42:25 1997 From: rich at xxx.uk> (rich at xxx.uk>) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:42:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 and Photo Message-ID: <971121124225.92e@gw.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk> Hi, This is my first post so be gentle with me ..... Last night I was listening to Steve Pacamac or Lurpak (whichever you prefer) & he was doing a voting competition type thing about this years Evening Sessions. He played bits of 10 sessions as suggestions for listeners to vote for, and B&S were about number 7/8. So you know what to do - vote for B&S. But what confused me was that he also sort of said was that the B&S Evening Session is going to be repeated next week. So let's hope it is going to be repeated so those without it can record it. A question that I would like to know the answer to is... On the back cover of If You're Feeling Sinister there's a photo with about 8/9 people in it and I was wondering if it's a band photo and if so, who's who? I haven't seen the band yet and would like to tie up faces to names. That's all for now, Richard _________________________ rich at rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk Telephone (01793) 785308 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 14:29:32 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:29:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: Ha ha ive finally got a recording of Tigermilk- cheers Ben- its absolutely devine! i especially love Expectations and She's Losing it at the moment. For anyone out there who still hasn't got a copy- you don't know what you're missing JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From DaveNicoll at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 14:08:16 1997 From: DaveNicoll at xxx.com (DaveNicoll at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:08:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Tickets Message-ID: <971121090815_1972039685@mrin86.mail.aol.com> Yipeee.... Yipeeee... I've got my ticket! I don't mean to boast to those who've yet to get one, but for anyone having problems trying to get any info from Stargreen try the Piccadilly box office in the Virgin Megastore. They packaged up my tix and sent them to me straight away. Oops... just realised that I shouldn't be shouting too loud as the second ticket is a surprise Chrissie present for someone. Anyway, now that I have the tickets I can start to plan travel and accomodation. Anyone else going down from Edinburgh? Hope the list isn't already awash with messages of this sort. (If not I'm sure it soon will be). 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 14:47:35 1997 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:47:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: newbie.... Message-ID: <01BCF68C.6876C600@manray.impressions-gallery.com> hello all I've only just got around to subscribing to this list, despite being a B&S fine for quite a while... It seems s lot of of fun, and will make a change from the overly serious art/culture/technology lists that I subscribe to (but hey, thats my job....) Reading some of the back mailings and other B&S websites (I never knew there were so many!) is it true that tigermilk sells for £300 now? Sheesh, thats a lot o' shekels.... not being smug or anything, but i got 2 copies! I was but a lowly washer-up in a restaurant in Brighton when I heard Mark Radcliffe first play 'The state I'm in' and then later scribbled Electric Honey's address onto the back of a dill pickle jar. One quick cheque later and tigermilk arrived in a smart brown envelope. My girlfriend holly loved it as well, so when I was back in Galasgow visiting friends (I was at Art School there 1990-1995) I managed to get a second hand copy from missing records on the great western road for £4!!! Since then I've got respectable and work full time in a gallery in York, so Holly's moved in with me and we have two copies in our collection! before anyone asks, we're not interested in offers, either... We also managed to see the union chapel gig, which was amazing, but I don't think we'll make it to manchester, so please post reports if you go... Incidentally, if there are any glasgow based fans on this list, I used to dj around Glasgow, playing a mix of rare groove funk jazz cheese latin and hip hop. Me and tom (my flatmate) used to do every fraiday at nico's, and occasional nights at bar 10, miros and various other haunts. We used to run a very underattended (ie empty!) night at the 13th note called lingo, but I think I'll draw a veil over that. If anyone used to go to nicos, or heard us on sweet/subcity fm, then drop us a line, as I'd love to hear from ya. York is *very* boring in comparison, so I miss my hedonistic former existence!!! s'all for now... matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinsel82 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 13:47:09 1997 From: tinsel82 at xxx.com (Anna Litinski) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 05:47:09 PST Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <19971121134709.12992.qmail@hotmail.com> >> I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just wondering >> who are they and are they any good?? > >They are an American band (or rather a bloke called Stephin Merrit, >with various collaboraters and musicians who seem to change each >album),...sound a bit similar to B&S..., they are absolutely >brilliant and you should go out and buy all their records now and >come to my disco and dance to them too!!!....recommended releases: >all of them but especially the 2 album CD >"The Wayward Bus/ Distant plastic trees" and the "House of tomorrow" >EP > >Chris >C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk > >*** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** > >*** FAX 0114 2727206 *** > >** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** > >"Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" >--------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I heard (in some review or other) that they were sort of like the "world famous" White Town(showing my age?Nev-ah!) Anna xx P.S. I'm new to this list, and when I looked at my in-tray this morning, suddenly there were 60 messages here. F**king hell!!!(staggers away clutching her head) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From DaveNicoll at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 14:08:16 1997 From: DaveNicoll at xxx.com (DaveNicoll at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:08:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Tickets Message-ID: <971121090815_1972039685@mrin86.mail.aol.com> Yipeee.... Yipeeee... I've got my ticket! I don't mean to boast to those who've yet to get one, but for anyone having problems trying to get any info from Stargreen try the Piccadilly box office in the Virgin Megastore. They packaged up my tix and sent them to me straight away. Oops... just realised that I shouldn't be shouting too loud as the second ticket is a surprise Chrissie present for someone. Anyway, now that I have the tickets I can start to plan travel and accomodation. Anyone else going down from Edinburgh? Hope the list isn't already awash with messages of this sort. (If not I'm sure it soon will be). David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 16:21:09 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:21:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: True Life Confessions (NBSC) In-Reply-To: <3474CD41.F1ACF714@totalweb.co.uk> References: <34748B0F.BFAB622B@colon.net.> <971120203104.n0005551.tormentor@mail.clara.net> <3474CD41.F1ACF714@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <3477b454.27421089@email.mcmail.com> On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:52:33 +0000, you wrote: >stuart's straight, or at least he is at the mo', i think he's more mad and disturbed >genius than melting pot of sexuality though. I prefer to think of him as a genius of mad and disturbed sexuality. >as for personal swayings, well i've shifted sand so many times i'm surprised i've >not just given up and made some money in the process. i once did a dare with someone >to see how many people we could kiss and the only way to win when we ran out of >girls was to start kissing the boys. i don't really look at boys or girls and view >them as attractive or unattractive, they either inspire and excite me or they bore >me to tears. all of the experimentation is past now i'm with katrina, but i still >remember the years working out which way i should be facing and wearing velour hats >into heathrow airport to work. Oh blimey, everyone's gone all confessional on me. It's funny how we seem to be capable of discussing fairly personal things with people who are, let's face it, virtual strangers. I'm not complaining, it's just funny. Sorry, I've always been so boringly sure of my inclinations, even when it seemed that everyone around me was rushing out of the closet, with a wink and a 'Tag's next'. It never happened, Nastassja Kinski always beat Alain Delon (not literally, of course, though that's a fascinating thought). At the end of the day, facial stubble just doesn't float my boat. David, are you really being honest when you say you never think about attractive/unattractive? It's a very nice thought, but I'd be lying if I said looks weren't important (at least to begin with. The great thing is how unpredictable everyone's taste is (myself included). You know those sprawling late-night converstions when you discuss 'your type' and next week you meet someone who just doesn't conform to it at all. One interesting thing is how girls have no problem saying that another girl is lovely, while boys will skirt the issue. I'm speaking very generally of course, but it's kind of sad. I remember when I was at school doing one of those 'socio-personal studies' in the 6th form, and talking about homosexuality, and the teacher asking everyone what they thought about it, and being called a poof for ages afterwards cos I just shrugged my shoulders and said it was no big deal. I hope that didn't sound like 'oh I'm so liberated', it was just a story. Just like my strange evening in a bar in Berlin called Cafe Anal (!). At least one person on the list knows this story) but for the rest of you - hey! that's for another time. Velour hats though....is that a giveaway? I never knew that. Like 'oh he's got his right ear pierced, he's...(nudge, nudge)...you know' when you were at school). Blahdeblahdeblah.... Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinsel82 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 13:47:09 1997 From: tinsel82 at xxx.com (Anna Litinski) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 05:47:09 PST Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <19971121134709.12992.qmail@hotmail.com> >> I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just wondering >> who are they and are they any good?? > >They are an American band (or rather a bloke called Stephin Merrit, >with various collaboraters and musicians who seem to change each >album),...sound a bit similar to B&S..., they are absolutely >brilliant and you should go out and buy all their records now and >come to my disco and dance to them too!!!....recommended releases: >all of them but especially the 2 album CD >"The Wayward Bus/ Distant plastic trees" and the "House of tomorrow" >EP > >Chris >C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk > >*** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** > >*** FAX 0114 2727206 *** > >** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** > >"Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" >--------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I heard (in some review or other) that they were sort of like the "world famous" White Town(showing my age?Nev-ah!) Anna xx P.S. I'm new to this list, and when I looked at my in-tray this morning, suddenly there were 60 messages here. F**king hell!!!(staggers away clutching her head) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Sheesh, thats a lot o' shekels.... not being smug or anything, but i got 2 copies! I was but a lowly washer-up in a restaurant in Brighton when I heard Mark Radcliffe first play 'The state I'm in' and then later scribbled Electric Honey's address onto the back of a dill pickle jar. One quick cheque later and tigermilk arrived in a smart brown envelope. My girlfriend holly loved it as well, so when I was back in Galasgow visiting friends (I was at Art School there 1990-1995) I managed to get a second hand copy from missing records on the great western road for £4!!! Since then I've got respectable and work full time in a gallery in York, so Holly's moved in with me and we have two copies in our collection! before anyone asks, we're not interested in offers, either... We also managed to see the union chapel gig, which was amazing, but I don't think we'll make it to manchester, so please post reports if you go... Incidentally, if there are any glasgow based fans on this list, I used to dj around Glasgow, playing a mix of rare groove funk jazz cheese latin and hip hop. Me and tom (my flatmate) used to do every fraiday at nico's, and occasional nights at bar 10, miros and various other haunts. We used to run a very underattended (ie empty!) night at the 13th note called lingo, but I think I'll draw a veil over that. If anyone used to go to nicos, or heard us on sweet/subcity fm, then drop us a line, as I'd love to hear from ya. York is *very* boring in comparison, so I miss my hedonistic former existence!!! s'all for now... matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 17:04:00 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:04:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails and stuff Message-ID: Apologies to anyone who's received multiple versions of mail messages from the list today - problems on the server on my desk. Think it's all cleared up now but I'll keep an eye out over the weekend. Whoops. Also: bit more stuff on the WWW pages for the list (see footer): some more chords for 3..6..9.. and some more of those wonderful "mishearings" - from the list if you've been paying attention. Any more comments on digest frequency - please send to me. It should be no *bigger* than 1200 lines but now appears once a day regardless - I think. Let me know if anyone thinks it's not doing that: I've probably not got my eye on the ball just now. Oh and we're 365 strong on this list now. Not bad! Hope you all think the efforts worthwhile. I love you all. No confessional from me - not until I write my autobiog. Oh, and sorry Chris - no one sent me their "Sinister Dateline" personal details, so it's back to the bad chat-up lines down the local ornithologist club for you I think... P xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ciflux at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 17:02:32 1997 From: ciflux at xxx.com (Mike Appelstein) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:02:32 PST Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: <19971121170232.25656.qmail@hotmail.com> << I wish I could even describe where the Thirteenth note is, but it would be too confusing and I dont even know the street name (I've only lived here for four years). There'll be somebody who knows the name, its on the tip of my tongue.>> It's either Sauchiehall Street or Glassford Street, I believe One of the two, definitely. It's near that big park in the middle of Glasgow, I know that much. Granted, I was only there once, and it was dark and I left the directions to my Glaswegian companions... I've heard rumors that the 13th Note has moved, actually. Which strikes me as strange, 'cuz didn't they just remodel the place? Anyone who has information is welcome to share, since I'll probably be visiting next year and want to pay a return visit. --Mike Appelstein ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Fri Nov 21 13:27:48 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:27:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Some Questions Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971121132748.00676188@student.let.uva.nl> >Has everyone got/ordered their tickets for Manchester yet? What'll happen >if everyone on this list sends off for 3 or 4 tickets? since then there >wont be enuff. Don't worry, I don't think everyone will order tickets. Some unlucky people actually do _not_ live in Great Britain, and if they're even more unlucky, they'll be living in a country where B&S aren't doing any gigs, like Holland :( Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 14:06:01 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:06:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 Message-ID: Yep, i voted for B&S as the top radio one session- anyone know if its going to be repeated soon as my version is pretty dud... JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 15:41:12 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:41:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: <01bcf693$e5498f80$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I know I'll probably see a member of the band around the west end every week >and it's hard to think of them as stars and not ordinary people doing a job. >I saw Sarah Martin this morning on Church St, both of us eating lunch in a rush >as I was getting back to work in my department. There's something >embarrassing about going along stuffing your face. > > Simon Y She'll be having her movements tracked - I saw her last week too. Imagine that - kind of like being stalked by 300 people on a mailing list! Scary. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 21 17:06:08 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:06:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Gay Stu In-Reply-To: <971120203104.n0005551.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: susannah's message got me thinking. i also agree that sexual orientation is getting pretty flexible. in fact, i have a friend who did his doctoral thesis proving that orientation and even gender are politically and socially imposed. i'm not sure how far i can take that idea, but it's interesting. i think my admiration of women is perhaps based on artistic appreciation. i can find a girl really attractive (i too, kiss my very beautiful roommate,) but i can't muster up quite the same fluttery/sexual feelings. i find the female form really beautiful as well, and i have to completely agree about men looking like women. there's something very sensual about it. just my 2 cents, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 22:40:08 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 14:40:08 PST Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? In-Reply-To: <971120163315_2105665858@mrin46.mail.aol.com> References: Conversation <971120163315_2105665858@mrin46.mail.aol.com> with last message <971120163315_2105665858@mrin46.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: -------- > > I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just wondering > who are they and are they any good?? magnetic fields are by far the greatest band ever (after belle and sebastian). they don't sound like white town, so don't let that turn you away. i think that white town dude covered a song by them. and they don't sound like b&s either. a comparison would be that they are both poppy. it's basically, like someone said earlier, stephin merrit and claudia gonson, but stephin is the main force behind it. he's also got several side projects.........future bible heroes, gothic archies, the 6ths. albums: distant plastic trees/the wayward bus charm of the highway strip house of tomorrow e.p. holiday get lost memories of love (future bible heroes) wasps nests (the sixths) "holiday" is the best MF album. the sixths are stephin's songs with other famous people singing them (i.e. lou barlow, georgia from yo la tengo, mac from superchunk). future bible heroes are a collaboration with some other guy who used to be in the swans. stephin and claudia switch singing roles in this one. the gothic archies have an album coming out on merge. it was supposed to be released last week, but got pushed back. they have an e.p. out on hello records that is near impossible to find. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 17:25:40 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:25:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I beg your pardon? Message-ID: <3475C414.2D19B4FE@colon.net.> To alleviate accute suffering at the hands of devious lawyers, I had a listen to IYFS this afternoon with the express intention of mishearing some lyrics. Here's what I came up with: "May gnu cold turkey day...." "Now he's stealing biscuits..." (that one might be real, but I don't want to spoil my enjoyment by looking at the lyrics) "Here on my own now Honeybus..." (a nickname for a bus driver perhaps? The plot thickens) At which point I stopped listening and subjected myself to further torture at the hands of bespectacled lunatics. The fan club website is looking very smart nowadays, and it's nice to see that we, the kids, play an important part in its overall vibe. I used to have an enormous crush on motor racing ace Didier Pironi. That is my meagre contribution to the willy/won't he? sex debate. I was very young at the time, and besides, he's dead now. My entire family are coming to visit tomorrow, so wish me luck. I promise to wear my B&S t-shirt one day to see what daft comments it provokes. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 17:42:01 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:42:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: <971121124200_2005535622@mrin43.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-21 12:18:22 EST, ciflux at hotmail.com writes: > >I've heard rumors that the 13th Note has moved, actually. Which strikes >me as strange, 'cuz didn't they just remodel the place? We were told it's moving "down by the water," to a bigger and bolder venue sometime in the first half of '98. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9369911y at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 15:21:22 1997 From: 9369911y at xxx.uk (Simon Young) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:21:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: I wish I could even describe where the Thirteenth note is, but it would be too confusing and I dont even know the street name (I've only lived here for four years). There'll be somebody who knows the name, its on the tip of my tongue. I was curious to know if other ppl who live in glasgow have the same kind of bizarre feeling I get when B&S get talked about by ppl in far away places. I know I'll probably see a member of the band around the west end every week and it's hard to think of them as stars and not ordinary people doing a job. I saw Sarah Martin this morning on Church St, both of us eating lunch in a rush as I was getting back to work in my department. There's something embarrassing about going along stuffing your face. Simon Y ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 17:04:00 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:04:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails and stuff Message-ID: Apologies to anyone who's received multiple versions of mail messages from the list today - problems on the server on my desk. Think it's all cleared up now but I'll keep an eye out over the weekend. Whoops. Also: bit more stuff on the WWW pages for the list (see footer): some more chords for 3..6..9.. and some more of those wonderful "mishearings" - from the list if you've been paying attention. Any more comments on digest frequency - please send to me. It should be no *bigger* than 1200 lines but now appears once a day regardless - I think. Let me know if anyone thinks it's not doing that: I've probably not got my eye on the ball just now. Oh and we're 365 strong on this list now. Not bad! Hope you all think the efforts worthwhile. I love you all. No confessional from me - not until I write my autobiog. Oh, and sorry Chris - no one sent me their "Sinister Dateline" personal details, so it's back to the bad chat-up lines down the local ornithologist club for you I think... P xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 17:25:40 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:25:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I beg your pardon? Message-ID: <3475C414.2D19B4FE@colon.net.> To alleviate accute suffering at the hands of devious lawyers, I had a listen to IYFS this afternoon with the express intention of mishearing some lyrics. Here's what I came up with: "May gnu cold turkey day...." "Now he's stealing biscuits..." (that one might be real, but I don't want to spoil my enjoyment by looking at the lyrics) "Here on my own now Honeybus..." (a nickname for a bus driver perhaps? The plot thickens) At which point I stopped listening and subjected myself to further torture at the hands of bespectacled lunatics. The fan club website is looking very smart nowadays, and it's nice to see that we, the kids, play an important part in its overall vibe. I used to have an enormous crush on motor racing ace Didier Pironi. That is my meagre contribution to the willy/won't he? sex debate. I was very young at the time, and besides, he's dead now. My entire family are coming to visit tomorrow, so wish me luck. I promise to wear my B&S t-shirt one day to see what daft comments it provokes. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From DaveNicoll at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 14:08:16 1997 From: DaveNicoll at xxx.com (DaveNicoll at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:08:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Tickets Message-ID: <971121090815_1972039685@mrin86.mail.aol.com> Yipeee.... Yipeeee... I've got my ticket! I don't mean to boast to those who've yet to get one, but for anyone having problems trying to get any info from Stargreen try the Piccadilly box office in the Virgin Megastore. They packaged up my tix and sent them to me straight away. Oops... just realised that I shouldn't be shouting too loud as the second ticket is a surprise Chrissie present for someone. Anyway, now that I have the tickets I can start to plan travel and accomodation. Anyone else going down from Edinburgh? Hope the list isn't already awash with messages of this sort. (If not I'm sure it soon will be). David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ciflux at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 17:02:32 1997 From: ciflux at xxx.com (Mike Appelstein) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:02:32 PST Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: <19971121170232.25656.qmail@hotmail.com> << I wish I could even describe where the Thirteenth note is, but it would be too confusing and I dont even know the street name (I've only lived here for four years). There'll be somebody who knows the name, its on the tip of my tongue.>> It's either Sauchiehall Street or Glassford Street, I believe One of the two, definitely. It's near that big park in the middle of Glasgow, I know that much. Granted, I was only there once, and it was dark and I left the directions to my Glaswegian companions... I've heard rumors that the 13th Note has moved, actually. Which strikes me as strange, 'cuz didn't they just remodel the place? Anyone who has information is welcome to share, since I'll probably be visiting next year and want to pay a return visit. --Mike Appelstein ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 21 18:54:12 1997 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:54:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? In-Reply-To: <19971121134709.12992.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: not white town!?! magnetic fields - well stephen merritt's voice is quite similar to Neil Hannon's of Divine Comedy. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Mods Project! "Un homage to a sharp kid." A head that's fed to a dancer's arse, a gambler of youth, a sulphate-skinny creature of envy. A modern day figurine born of Colin Machinnes. >From his feather cut top to the depths of his sub-atomic soul on top of the world. These Animal Men On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Anna Litinski wrote: > > >> I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just > wondering > >> who are they and are they any good?? > > > >They are an American band (or rather a bloke called Stephin Merrit, > >with various collaboraters and musicians who seem to change each > >album),...sound a bit similar to B&S..., they are absolutely > >brilliant and you should go out and buy all their records now and > >come to my disco and dance to them too!!!....recommended releases: > >all of them but especially the 2 album CD > >"The Wayward Bus/ Distant plastic trees" and the "House of tomorrow" > >EP > > > >Chris > >C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk > > > >*** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** > > > >*** FAX 0114 2727206 *** > > > >** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** > > > >"Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Well, I heard (in some review or other) that they were sort of like the > "world famous" White Town(showing my age?Nev-ah!) > > Anna xx > > P.S. I'm new to this list, and when I looked at my in-tray this morning, > suddenly there were 60 messages here. F**king hell!!!(staggers away > clutching her head) > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 17:25:40 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 18:25:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I beg your pardon? Message-ID: <3475C414.2D19B4FE@colon.net.> To alleviate accute suffering at the hands of devious lawyers, I had a listen to IYFS this afternoon with the express intention of mishearing some lyrics. Here's what I came up with: "May gnu cold turkey day...." "Now he's stealing biscuits..." (that one might be real, but I don't want to spoil my enjoyment by looking at the lyrics) "Here on my own now Honeybus..." (a nickname for a bus driver perhaps? The plot thickens) At which point I stopped listening and subjected myself to further torture at the hands of bespectacled lunatics. The fan club website is looking very smart nowadays, and it's nice to see that we, the kids, play an important part in its overall vibe. I used to have an enormous crush on motor racing ace Didier Pironi. That is my meagre contribution to the willy/won't he? sex debate. I was very young at the time, and besides, he's dead now. My entire family are coming to visit tomorrow, so wish me luck. I promise to wear my B&S t-shirt one day to see what daft comments it provokes. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 16:21:09 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:21:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: True Life Confessions (NBSC) In-Reply-To: <3474CD41.F1ACF714@totalweb.co.uk> References: <34748B0F.BFAB622B@colon.net.> <971120203104.n0005551.tormentor@mail.clara.net> <3474CD41.F1ACF714@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <3477b454.27421089@email.mcmail.com> On Thu, 20 Nov 1997 23:52:33 +0000, you wrote: >stuart's straight, or at least he is at the mo', i think he's more mad and disturbed >genius than melting pot of sexuality though. I prefer to think of him as a genius of mad and disturbed sexuality. >as for personal swayings, well i've shifted sand so many times i'm surprised i've >not just given up and made some money in the process. i once did a dare with someone >to see how many people we could kiss and the only way to win when we ran out of >girls was to start kissing the boys. i don't really look at boys or girls and view >them as attractive or unattractive, they either inspire and excite me or they bore >me to tears. all of the experimentation is past now i'm with katrina, but i still >remember the years working out which way i should be facing and wearing velour hats >into heathrow airport to work. Oh blimey, everyone's gone all confessional on me. It's funny how we seem to be capable of discussing fairly personal things with people who are, let's face it, virtual strangers. I'm not complaining, it's just funny. Sorry, I've always been so boringly sure of my inclinations, even when it seemed that everyone around me was rushing out of the closet, with a wink and a 'Tag's next'. It never happened, Nastassja Kinski always beat Alain Delon (not literally, of course, though that's a fascinating thought). At the end of the day, facial stubble just doesn't float my boat. David, are you really being honest when you say you never think about attractive/unattractive? It's a very nice thought, but I'd be lying if I said looks weren't important (at least to begin with. The great thing is how unpredictable everyone's taste is (myself included). You know those sprawling late-night converstions when you discuss 'your type' and next week you meet someone who just doesn't conform to it at all. One interesting thing is how girls have no problem saying that another girl is lovely, while boys will skirt the issue. I'm speaking very generally of course, but it's kind of sad. I remember when I was at school doing one of those 'socio-personal studies' in the 6th form, and talking about homosexuality, and the teacher asking everyone what they thought about it, and being called a poof for ages afterwards cos I just shrugged my shoulders and said it was no big deal. I hope that didn't sound like 'oh I'm so liberated', it was just a story. Just like my strange evening in a bar in Berlin called Cafe Anal (!). At least one person on the list knows this story) but for the rest of you - hey! that's for another time. Velour hats though....is that a giveaway? I never knew that. Like 'oh he's got his right ear pierced, he's...(nudge, nudge)...you know' when you were at school). Blahdeblahdeblah.... Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 17:04:00 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:04:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails and stuff Message-ID: Apologies to anyone who's received multiple versions of mail messages from the list today - problems on the server on my desk. Think it's all cleared up now but I'll keep an eye out over the weekend. Whoops. Also: bit more stuff on the WWW pages for the list (see footer): some more chords for 3..6..9.. and some more of those wonderful "mishearings" - from the list if you've been paying attention. Any more comments on digest frequency - please send to me. It should be no *bigger* than 1200 lines but now appears once a day regardless - I think. Let me know if anyone thinks it's not doing that: I've probably not got my eye on the ball just now. Oh and we're 365 strong on this list now. Not bad! Hope you all think the efforts worthwhile. I love you all. No confessional from me - not until I write my autobiog. Oh, and sorry Chris - no one sent me their "Sinister Dateline" personal details, so it's back to the bad chat-up lines down the local ornithologist club for you I think... P xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ciflux at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 17:02:32 1997 From: ciflux at xxx.com (Mike Appelstein) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:02:32 PST Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: <19971121170232.25656.qmail@hotmail.com> << I wish I could even describe where the Thirteenth note is, but it would be too confusing and I dont even know the street name (I've only lived here for four years). There'll be somebody who knows the name, its on the tip of my tongue.>> It's either Sauchiehall Street or Glassford Street, I believe One of the two, definitely. It's near that big park in the middle of Glasgow, I know that much. Granted, I was only there once, and it was dark and I left the directions to my Glaswegian companions... I've heard rumors that the 13th Note has moved, actually. Which strikes me as strange, 'cuz didn't they just remodel the place? Anyone who has information is welcome to share, since I'll probably be visiting next year and want to pay a return visit. --Mike Appelstein ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 14:06:01 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:06:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 Message-ID: Yep, i voted for B&S as the top radio one session- anyone know if its going to be repeated soon as my version is pretty dud... JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9369911y at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 15:21:22 1997 From: 9369911y at xxx.uk (Simon Young) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 15:21:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: I wish I could even describe where the Thirteenth note is, but it would be too confusing and I dont even know the street name (I've only lived here for four years). There'll be somebody who knows the name, its on the tip of my tongue. I was curious to know if other ppl who live in glasgow have the same kind of bizarre feeling I get when B&S get talked about by ppl in far away places. I know I'll probably see a member of the band around the west end every week and it's hard to think of them as stars and not ordinary people doing a job. I saw Sarah Martin this morning on Church St, both of us eating lunch in a rush as I was getting back to work in my department. There's something embarrassing about going along stuffing your face. Simon Y ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 22:40:08 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 14:40:08 PST Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? In-Reply-To: <971120163315_2105665858@mrin46.mail.aol.com> References: Conversation <971120163315_2105665858@mrin46.mail.aol.com> with last message <971120163315_2105665858@mrin46.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: -------- > > I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just wondering > who are they and are they any good?? magnetic fields are by far the greatest band ever (after belle and sebastian). they don't sound like white town, so don't let that turn you away. i think that white town dude covered a song by them. and they don't sound like b&s either. a comparison would be that they are both poppy. it's basically, like someone said earlier, stephin merrit and claudia gonson, but stephin is the main force behind it. he's also got several side projects.........future bible heroes, gothic archies, the 6ths. albums: distant plastic trees/the wayward bus charm of the highway strip house of tomorrow e.p. holiday get lost memories of love (future bible heroes) wasps nests (the sixths) "holiday" is the best MF album. the sixths are stephin's songs with other famous people singing them (i.e. lou barlow, georgia from yo la tengo, mac from superchunk). future bible heroes are a collaboration with some other guy who used to be in the swans. stephin and claudia switch singing roles in this one. the gothic archies have an album coming out on merge. it was supposed to be released last week, but got pushed back. they have an e.p. out on hello records that is near impossible to find. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 14:47:35 1997 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:47:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: newbie.... Message-ID: <01BCF68C.6876C600@manray.impressions-gallery.com> hello all I've only just got around to subscribing to this list, despite being a B&S fine for quite a while... It seems s lot of of fun, and will make a change from the overly serious art/culture/technology lists that I subscribe to (but hey, thats my job....) Reading some of the back mailings and other B&S websites (I never knew there were so many!) is it true that tigermilk sells for £300 now? Sheesh, thats a lot o' shekels.... not being smug or anything, but i got 2 copies! I was but a lowly washer-up in a restaurant in Brighton when I heard Mark Radcliffe first play 'The state I'm in' and then later scribbled Electric Honey's address onto the back of a dill pickle jar. One quick cheque later and tigermilk arrived in a smart brown envelope. My girlfriend holly loved it as well, so when I was back in Galasgow visiting friends (I was at Art School there 1990-1995) I managed to get a second hand copy from missing records on the great western road for £4!!! Since then I've got respectable and work full time in a gallery in York, so Holly's moved in with me and we have two copies in our collection! before anyone asks, we're not interested in offers, either... We also managed to see the union chapel gig, which was amazing, but I don't think we'll make it to manchester, so please post reports if you go... Incidentally, if there are any glasgow based fans on this list, I used to dj around Glasgow, playing a mix of rare groove funk jazz cheese latin and hip hop. Me and tom (my flatmate) used to do every fraiday at nico's, and occasional nights at bar 10, miros and various other haunts. We used to run a very underattended (ie empty!) night at the 13th note called lingo, but I think I'll draw a veil over that. If anyone used to go to nicos, or heard us on sweet/subcity fm, then drop us a line, as I'd love to hear from ya. York is *very* boring in comparison, so I miss my hedonistic former existence!!! s'all for now... matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 17:42:01 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:42:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: <971121124200_2005535622@mrin43.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-21 12:18:22 EST, ciflux at hotmail.com writes: > >I've heard rumors that the 13th Note has moved, actually. Which strikes >me as strange, 'cuz didn't they just remodel the place? We were told it's moving "down by the water," to a bigger and bolder venue sometime in the first half of '98. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s9720251 at xxx.nl Fri Nov 21 13:27:48 1997 From: s9720251 at xxx.nl (Eeyore) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:27:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Some Questions Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19971121132748.00676188@student.let.uva.nl> >Has everyone got/ordered their tickets for Manchester yet? What'll happen >if everyone on this list sends off for 3 or 4 tickets? since then there >wont be enuff. Don't worry, I don't think everyone will order tickets. Some unlucky people actually do _not_ live in Great Britain, and if they're even more unlucky, they'll be living in a country where B&S aren't doing any gigs, like Holland :( Eeyore "the more you ignore me, the closer I get..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From DaveNicoll at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 14:08:16 1997 From: DaveNicoll at xxx.com (DaveNicoll at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 09:08:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Tickets Message-ID: <971121090815_1972039685@mrin86.mail.aol.com> Yipeee.... Yipeeee... I've got my ticket! I don't mean to boast to those who've yet to get one, but for anyone having problems trying to get any info from Stargreen try the Piccadilly box office in the Virgin Megastore. They packaged up my tix and sent them to me straight away. Oops... just realised that I shouldn't be shouting too loud as the second ticket is a surprise Chrissie present for someone. Anyway, now that I have the tickets I can start to plan travel and accomodation. Anyone else going down from Edinburgh? Hope the list isn't already awash with messages of this sort. (If not I'm sure it soon will be). 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We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinsel82 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 13:47:09 1997 From: tinsel82 at xxx.com (Anna Litinski) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 05:47:09 PST Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <19971121134709.12992.qmail@hotmail.com> >> I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just wondering >> who are they and are they any good?? > >They are an American band (or rather a bloke called Stephin Merrit, >with various collaboraters and musicians who seem to change each >album),...sound a bit similar to B&S..., they are absolutely >brilliant and you should go out and buy all their records now and >come to my disco and dance to them too!!!....recommended releases: >all of them but especially the 2 album CD >"The Wayward Bus/ Distant plastic trees" and the "House of tomorrow" >EP > >Chris >C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk > >*** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** > >*** FAX 0114 2727206 *** > >** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** > >"Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" >--------------------------------------------------------------------- Well, I heard (in some review or other) that they were sort of like the "world famous" White Town(showing my age?Nev-ah!) Anna xx P.S. I'm new to this list, and when I looked at my in-tray this morning, suddenly there were 60 messages here. F**king hell!!!(staggers away clutching her head) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 19:17:55 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 97 19:17:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: fanzine Message-ID: <971121191755.n0005603.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Today i picked up a fanzine called "Creme Anglaise" which has an interview with Chris and Stuart David in it, there are also some live reviews in too, with a couple of pictures. Theres also stuff on the Tindersticks, Pastels, delgados, Placebo..... In fact its dead good! i bought it in Tower records, but i expect Anyway, if you see any articles on B&S anyone, can you please mail it to the list ?? susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 19:28:04 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:28:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <971121142803_1105467427@mrin83.mail.aol.com> Magnetic Fields are one of NYC's best bands. Stephen is the key songwriter but Claudia is a very fixed and essential member of the band as well. An album they did that many are familiar with is the 6th record on London. It was MF songs with guest singers (Amelia Heavenly, Dean Luna, Barbara Manning, Chris Knox, etc) and it's really great, though Stephen's voice is always better than any guest vocalist. He also records under the name Future Bible Heroes (an 8tees synth-pop thing like Anything Box). Merge puts out the MF records in the States. . .don't know about the UK. B&S fans might really like him cause he has clever, witty, ambiguous, foxy lyrics. He's a bit of a downer at times though ("all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain, all the dope in new york couldn't stop this pain, all the money in tokyo couldn't make me stay, all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain . . ."). (sigh) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 12:50:39 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (*James* :)) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:50:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Some Questions In-Reply-To: <34745D57.570D@virgin.net> Message-ID: Although these questions have probably already been asked, i would like to find out a few things which puzzle me... 1) On a Century of Elvis, who is doing the talking? 2) Has anyone transcribed the whole of the speech, since on the inlay of the ep it only has the first few lines; 3) Who are all the people on the back of IYFS? You all probably know the answers so i expect lots of replys! Has everyone got/ordered their tickets for Manchester yet? What'll happen if everyone on this list sends off for 3 or 4 tickets? since then there wont be enuff. b-bye JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 19:28:04 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:28:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <971121142803_1105467427@mrin83.mail.aol.com> Magnetic Fields are one of NYC's best bands. Stephen is the key songwriter but Claudia is a very fixed and essential member of the band as well. An album they did that many are familiar with is the 6th record on London. It was MF songs with guest singers (Amelia Heavenly, Dean Luna, Barbara Manning, Chris Knox, etc) and it's really great, though Stephen's voice is always better than any guest vocalist. He also records under the name Future Bible Heroes (an 8tees synth-pop thing like Anything Box). Merge puts out the MF records in the States. . .don't know about the UK. B&S fans might really like him cause he has clever, witty, ambiguous, foxy lyrics. He's a bit of a downer at times though ("all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain, all the dope in new york couldn't stop this pain, all the money in tokyo couldn't make me stay, all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain . . ."). (sigh) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 14:29:32 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:29:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: Ha ha ive finally got a recording of Tigermilk- cheers Ben- its absolutely devine! i especially love Expectations and She's Losing it at the moment. For anyone out there who still hasn't got a copy- you don't know what you're missing JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rich at xxx.uk> Fri Nov 21 12:42:25 1997 From: rich at xxx.uk> (rich at xxx.uk>) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 12:42:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 and Photo Message-ID: <971121124225.92e@gw.rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk> Hi, This is my first post so be gentle with me ..... Last night I was listening to Steve Pacamac or Lurpak (whichever you prefer) & he was doing a voting competition type thing about this years Evening Sessions. He played bits of 10 sessions as suggestions for listeners to vote for, and B&S were about number 7/8. So you know what to do - vote for B&S. But what confused me was that he also sort of said was that the B&S Evening Session is going to be repeated next week. So let's hope it is going to be repeated so those without it can record it. A question that I would like to know the answer to is... On the back cover of If You're Feeling Sinister there's a photo with about 8/9 people in it and I was wondering if it's a band photo and if so, who's who? I haven't seen the band yet and would like to tie up faces to names. That's all for now, Richard _________________________ rich at rmcs.cranfield.ac.uk Telephone (01793) 785308 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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Message-ID: B+S on the Radio and TV. ------------------------ Just a couple of points..... 1. In the mail out it was mentioned that B+S 'might' be appearing on 'Later with Jools Holland' on the 29th November(i think, sorry haven't got it at hand)...any concrete info or developments?. 2. Also...on the grape vine people keep talking about 'Evening sessions' on Radio1 and there occurences. Whats happening here then? - are there any up and coming sessions planned or are any going to be repeated?(i've never heard one - so sad) And finally.....gigs are great and all are trying.....but can the list be told of any up and coming: TV appearances or Radio Sessions in general? Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris.hall5 at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 20:11:46 1997 From: chris.hall5 at xxx.net (Chris Hall) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:11:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Boo to the Business World ! site update Message-ID: <3475EB02.715B@virgin.net> Site update - if it doesn't appear to have changed just hit ' reload ' -- Boo to the Business World ! http://freespace.virgin.net/chris.hall5/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 20:38:41 1997 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:38:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Nov 97 14:40:08 PST, "bradford" said: << the gothic archies have an album coming out on merge. it was supposed to be released last week, but got pushed back. they have an e.p. out on hello records that is near impossible to find. >> AJAX have the ep. http://www.ajaxrecords.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Fri Nov 21 20:48:34 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:48:34 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: <199711212048.VAA13891@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Mike Appelstein wrote ... >It's either Sauchiehall Street or Glassford Street, I believe One of >the two, definitely. It's near that big park in the middle of Glasgow, >I know that much. Granted, I was only there once, and it was dark and I >left the directions to my Glaswegian companions... Pretty amusing, several Glaswegians on this list and the only directions are given by foreigners ... since the 13th Note still seems to enjoy its former location, here is some more information ... Mike already mentioned _Glassford_ Street, should be number 80 (corner pub, side street is named Garth Street, as far as I remember). Travelling by bus to demonstrate your genuine enthusiasm, you should get off at Buchanan Bus Station and spend a few quids on the cab (alternatively, purchase a streetfinder or meet up with a volunteering Glaswegian listee, only ten minutes walk). Travelling by train you should get off at either Central Station or Queen Station (ten and five minutes walk respectively). Travelling by car, you should leave the M8 for the Royal Infirmary heading towards the centre, drive along Castle Street followed by High Street, cross George Street / Duke Street, leave the third street on your right named Ingram Street (nah ... not Geoffrey Ingram) and the fifth on the left will be Glassford Street, the 13th Note is located at the first corner to your left hand. Generally speaking, the 13th Note is near the well known George Square, the University of Strathclyde is pretty close as well, but the big park Mike was writing about would be the more distant Glasgow Green ... unless you've crossed the Necropolis that night, an ancient cemetary. §:^D Besides, make sure to organize some tickets immediately, since the 13th Note is a pretty tiny club ... "The church up on the hill is looking lovely" "But it doesn't interest, the only things she wants to know is" "How and why and when and where to go" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris.hall5 at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 20:11:46 1997 From: chris.hall5 at xxx.net (Chris Hall) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:11:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Boo to the Business World ! site update Message-ID: <3475EB02.715B@virgin.net> Site update - if it doesn't appear to have changed just hit ' reload ' -- Boo to the Business World ! http://freespace.virgin.net/chris.hall5/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 21:02:55 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:02:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: We can't get enough? Message-ID: B+S on the Radio and TV. ------------------------ Just a couple of points..... 1. In the mail out it was mentioned that B+S 'might' be appearing on 'Later with Jools Holland' on the 29th November(i think, sorry haven't got it at hand)...any concrete info or developments?. 2. Also...on the grape vine people keep talking about 'Evening sessions' on Radio1 and there occurences. Whats happening here then? - are there any up and coming sessions planned or are any going to be repeated?(i've never heard one - so sad) And finally.....gigs are great and all are trying.....but can the list be told of any up and coming: TV appearances or Radio Sessions in general? Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 21:38:33 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:38:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: True Life Confessions (NBSC) References: Message-ID: <3475FF59.BCFFA5B6@totalweb.co.uk> Laurel Girvan wrote: > i never heard anything about velour hats, but don't wear a red > handkerchief in your back pocket in parts of america unless you want some > extra attention. nowadays i wouldn't wear a velour hat either.mine was pink and caused a lot of commotion, i was a lonely suede fan that'd not bought a music paper and hadn't known what i should look like, the hat was picked up at a market stall in glastonbury or glas' as the snobs try and call it. i lost it a year later watching primal scream in the rain. david kitchen -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 19:44:02 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:44:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BOO! to the business world.... Message-ID: Really bad news people!!! Ok, maybe good news for you but bad for me! I can only come to the one gig on the Sat. (weep, weep) Are we still going to try and meet up on the Sat before the gig??? Please!! I'll be really upset if everyone meets up the day I'mnot there!!! Misheard lyrics, OK then. I always thought the Stars of track and Field 1st line went 'making you cold turkey day to suit your affairs'. And did I feel a donut when I heard the real words. durr. But thats the only one I've not got. You think Stuart Murdochs voice is hard to understand, have you ever tried to transcribe any Manics songs? JDB has a beautiful voice, he just don't annunciate proper like wot we do! And to whoever wrote about being scared to write to B&S-they don't reply to fanzine questionnaires at any rate. Arse. i shall try again. And I call that evening session guy 'Steve La Twat'. Ooh, the wittiness of me. nahahaha. He just annoys me. Oh, and I love the cookies and cream haagen daaz. so long, farewell, aufwierdersehn goodbye-- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From dbcloud at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 22:33:08 1997 From: dbcloud at xxx.com (Douglas Wolk) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:33:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: R-E-S-P-E-C-T Message-ID: "...Take care, T.C.B." As in "taking care of business." As in Elvis's personal motto/belt-buckle, just to bring this back to something vaguely "Century Of Elvis"-related. Douglas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 22:56:21 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:56:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #72 Message-ID: <199711212256.RAA14437@Vector.inexpress.net> >Oh blimey, everyone's gone all confessional on me. It's funny how we >seem to be capable of discussing fairly personal things with people >who are, let's face it, virtual strangers. I'm not complaining, it's >just funny. Sorry, I've always been so boringly sure of my >inclinations, even when it seemed that everyone around me was rushing >out of the closet, with a wink and a 'Tag's next'. It never happened, >Nastassja Kinski always beat Alain Delon (not literally, of course, >though that's a fascinating thought). At the end of the day, facial >stubble just doesn't float my boat. > >David, are you really being honest when you say you never think about >attractive/unattractive? It's a very nice thought, but I'd be lying >if I said looks weren't important (at least to begin with. The great >thing is how unpredictable everyone's taste is (myself included). You >know those sprawling late-night converstions when you discuss 'your >type' and next week you meet someone who just doesn't conform to it at >all. > >One interesting thing is how girls have no problem saying that another >girl is lovely, while boys will skirt the issue. I'm speaking very >generally of course, but it's kind of sad. Yes! WHy cannot some of these boys just admit thnigs!And why do they love lesbians so much? It confuses!They beg me to kiss another girl while they watch or to do catfight! Why? If you ask them to do the same with another guy they scream in fear,then they tell me I 'don't understand'.What is there to understand! They make no sense! Anyways,oh I'm so envious of you attending shows! Have Belle and Sebastian ever played North America? I will wish and wish and wish that they will come here and perhaps it will become true then. And on bloke depression,that is sweet the boy who said what about girl depression! That you take solace in Belle and Sebastian....if only I had a bloke who loved Belle and Sebastian to BE depressed about.Beautiful blue-eyed boy working at record store doesn't count either...(such a dream fro me! *sniff sniff** Besides,he scare me veyr much today,my ears are used to going in and hearing lovely music,today I went in to hear the sounds of a million dying cats,it made me laugh! (But I didn't want to offend so I tried to cover my smile,that is hard is't it..trying not to laugh) That's all I suppose,since I am so so so faw away from ever seeing any of these gigs,you lovely people will opst about the experience,please? Thankyou! Love,love Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 13:38:14 1997 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:38:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jacobites Message-ID: I have to agree with the person who recommended The Jacobites LPs - they're FANTASTIC! I've put them on a couple of times but they're not really worth any people. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://surf.to/varsity ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From xpx71 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 17:35:39 1997 From: xpx71 at xxx.com (Tim Jones) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:35:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs Message-ID: <199711220030.AAA12496@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Is anyone / Does anyone know someone going to the gig on the 28th from the Southport area of Merseyside? I`m having enourmous difficulty finding someone to go with ( everyone complains of that stupid thing called work ). Cheers, Tim. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Sat Nov 22 01:11:01 1997 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs In-Reply-To: <199711220030.AAA12496@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: HI there, Im studying in the UNI of Bradford and am looking for people who are going to the Belle and Sebastian gig on the 27th DEC .... going from Bradford itself or there isnt anyone???? Cheers Daniel Loo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Nov 22 06:22:09 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:22:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Gay Stu Message-ID: <971122012208_748457755@mrin38> In a message dated 97-11-21 01:56:35 EST, you write: > Lastly. Is Stuart Murdoch gay? Just being curious thats > > all, nothing funny, but > > is he? > > > > Most of the time he sounds quite miserable, but there is the > odd outbreak of gaiety from time to time. > Years and years ago, we referred to a homosexual friend as "gay" in front of my grandmother, who apparently filed that piece of updated vocabulary away. After an outing of the church ladies (to a winery!?), she told us how all the other women were discussing the trip and kept saying it had been "such a gay day!" Gram was quite pleased with herself for knowing the "new" meaning of the word, and had chuckled to herself all the way home. Of course, Gram used to refer to her new neighbor as "a hanger." It took us quite a while to figure out that she meant "hooker" -- and she was embarrassed to learn what it meant... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sjohns32 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 22 06:25:51 1997 From: sjohns32 at xxx.edu (sara) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:25:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: tigermilk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ok, i think i've been lurking for long enough, and i would introduce myself etc. but i'm really bad at things like that. anyway, i can't take it anymore. i need a copy of tigermilk. so if there's anyone who doesn't mind making one more copy, i would really appreciate it. sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From dbcloud at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 22:33:08 1997 From: dbcloud at xxx.com (Douglas Wolk) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:33:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: R-E-S-P-E-C-T Message-ID: "...Take care, T.C.B." As in "taking care of business." As in Elvis's personal motto/belt-buckle, just to bring this back to something vaguely "Century Of Elvis"-related. Douglas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Sat Nov 22 01:11:01 1997 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs In-Reply-To: <199711220030.AAA12496@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: HI there, Im studying in the UNI of Bradford and am looking for people who are going to the Belle and Sebastian gig on the 27th DEC .... going from Bradford itself or there isnt anyone???? Cheers Daniel Loo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From xpx71 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 17:35:39 1997 From: xpx71 at xxx.com (Tim Jones) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:35:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs Message-ID: <199711220030.AAA12496@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Is anyone / Does anyone know someone going to the gig on the 28th from the Southport area of Merseyside? I`m having enourmous difficulty finding someone to go with ( everyone complains of that stupid thing called work ). Cheers, Tim. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 19:44:02 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:44:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BOO! to the business world.... Message-ID: Really bad news people!!! Ok, maybe good news for you but bad for me! I can only come to the one gig on the Sat. (weep, weep) Are we still going to try and meet up on the Sat before the gig??? Please!! I'll be really upset if everyone meets up the day I'mnot there!!! Misheard lyrics, OK then. I always thought the Stars of track and Field 1st line went 'making you cold turkey day to suit your affairs'. And did I feel a donut when I heard the real words. durr. But thats the only one I've not got. You think Stuart Murdochs voice is hard to understand, have you ever tried to transcribe any Manics songs? JDB has a beautiful voice, he just don't annunciate proper like wot we do! And to whoever wrote about being scared to write to B&S-they don't reply to fanzine questionnaires at any rate. Arse. i shall try again. And I call that evening session guy 'Steve La Twat'. Ooh, the wittiness of me. nahahaha. He just annoys me. Oh, and I love the cookies and cream haagen daaz. so long, farewell, aufwierdersehn goodbye-- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 21:38:33 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:38:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: True Life Confessions (NBSC) References: Message-ID: <3475FF59.BCFFA5B6@totalweb.co.uk> Laurel Girvan wrote: > i never heard anything about velour hats, but don't wear a red > handkerchief in your back pocket in parts of america unless you want some > extra attention. nowadays i wouldn't wear a velour hat either.mine was pink and caused a lot of commotion, i was a lonely suede fan that'd not bought a music paper and hadn't known what i should look like, the hat was picked up at a market stall in glastonbury or glas' as the snobs try and call it. i lost it a year later watching primal scream in the rain. david kitchen -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 20:38:41 1997 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:38:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Nov 97 14:40:08 PST, "bradford" said: << the gothic archies have an album coming out on merge. it was supposed to be released last week, but got pushed back. they have an e.p. out on hello records that is near impossible to find. >> AJAX have the ep. http://www.ajaxrecords.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 13:38:14 1997 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:38:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jacobites Message-ID: I have to agree with the person who recommended The Jacobites LPs - they're FANTASTIC! I've put them on a couple of times but they're not really worth any people. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://surf.to/varsity ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris.hall5 at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 20:11:46 1997 From: chris.hall5 at xxx.net (Chris Hall) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:11:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Boo to the Business World ! site update Message-ID: <3475EB02.715B@virgin.net> Site update - if it doesn't appear to have changed just hit ' reload ' -- Boo to the Business World ! http://freespace.virgin.net/chris.hall5/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. 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We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 21:02:55 1997 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 16:02:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: We can't get enough? Message-ID: B+S on the Radio and TV. ------------------------ Just a couple of points..... 1. In the mail out it was mentioned that B+S 'might' be appearing on 'Later with Jools Holland' on the 29th November(i think, sorry haven't got it at hand)...any concrete info or developments?. 2. Also...on the grape vine people keep talking about 'Evening sessions' on Radio1 and there occurences. Whats happening here then? - are there any up and coming sessions planned or are any going to be repeated?(i've never heard one - so sad) And finally.....gigs are great and all are trying.....but can the list be told of any up and coming: TV appearances or Radio Sessions in general? 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 22:56:21 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:56:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #72 Message-ID: <199711212256.RAA14437@Vector.inexpress.net> >Oh blimey, everyone's gone all confessional on me. It's funny how we >seem to be capable of discussing fairly personal things with people >who are, let's face it, virtual strangers. I'm not complaining, it's >just funny. Sorry, I've always been so boringly sure of my >inclinations, even when it seemed that everyone around me was rushing >out of the closet, with a wink and a 'Tag's next'. It never happened, >Nastassja Kinski always beat Alain Delon (not literally, of course, >though that's a fascinating thought). At the end of the day, facial >stubble just doesn't float my boat. > >David, are you really being honest when you say you never think about >attractive/unattractive? It's a very nice thought, but I'd be lying >if I said looks weren't important (at least to begin with. The great >thing is how unpredictable everyone's taste is (myself included). You >know those sprawling late-night converstions when you discuss 'your >type' and next week you meet someone who just doesn't conform to it at >all. > >One interesting thing is how girls have no problem saying that another >girl is lovely, while boys will skirt the issue. I'm speaking very >generally of course, but it's kind of sad. Yes! WHy cannot some of these boys just admit thnigs!And why do they love lesbians so much? It confuses!They beg me to kiss another girl while they watch or to do catfight! Why? If you ask them to do the same with another guy they scream in fear,then they tell me I 'don't understand'.What is there to understand! They make no sense! Anyways,oh I'm so envious of you attending shows! Have Belle and Sebastian ever played North America? I will wish and wish and wish that they will come here and perhaps it will become true then. And on bloke depression,that is sweet the boy who said what about girl depression! That you take solace in Belle and Sebastian....if only I had a bloke who loved Belle and Sebastian to BE depressed about.Beautiful blue-eyed boy working at record store doesn't count either...(such a dream fro me! *sniff sniff** Besides,he scare me veyr much today,my ears are used to going in and hearing lovely music,today I went in to hear the sounds of a million dying cats,it made me laugh! (But I didn't want to offend so I tried to cover my smile,that is hard is't it..trying not to laugh) That's all I suppose,since I am so so so faw away from ever seeing any of these gigs,you lovely people will opst about the experience,please? Thankyou! Love,love Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 19:44:02 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:44:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BOO! to the business world.... Message-ID: Really bad news people!!! Ok, maybe good news for you but bad for me! I can only come to the one gig on the Sat. (weep, weep) Are we still going to try and meet up on the Sat before the gig??? Please!! I'll be really upset if everyone meets up the day I'mnot there!!! Misheard lyrics, OK then. I always thought the Stars of track and Field 1st line went 'making you cold turkey day to suit your affairs'. And did I feel a donut when I heard the real words. durr. But thats the only one I've not got. You think Stuart Murdochs voice is hard to understand, have you ever tried to transcribe any Manics songs? JDB has a beautiful voice, he just don't annunciate proper like wot we do! And to whoever wrote about being scared to write to B&S-they don't reply to fanzine questionnaires at any rate. Arse. i shall try again. And I call that evening session guy 'Steve La Twat'. Ooh, the wittiness of me. nahahaha. He just annoys me. Oh, and I love the cookies and cream haagen daaz. so long, farewell, aufwierdersehn goodbye-- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From xpx71 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 17:35:39 1997 From: xpx71 at xxx.com (Tim Jones) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:35:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs Message-ID: <199711220030.AAA12496@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Is anyone / Does anyone know someone going to the gig on the 28th from the Southport area of Merseyside? I`m having enourmous difficulty finding someone to go with ( everyone complains of that stupid thing called work ). Cheers, Tim. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. 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We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 22:56:21 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:56:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #72 Message-ID: <199711212256.RAA14437@Vector.inexpress.net> >Oh blimey, everyone's gone all confessional on me. It's funny how we >seem to be capable of discussing fairly personal things with people >who are, let's face it, virtual strangers. I'm not complaining, it's >just funny. Sorry, I've always been so boringly sure of my >inclinations, even when it seemed that everyone around me was rushing >out of the closet, with a wink and a 'Tag's next'. It never happened, >Nastassja Kinski always beat Alain Delon (not literally, of course, >though that's a fascinating thought). At the end of the day, facial >stubble just doesn't float my boat. > >David, are you really being honest when you say you never think about >attractive/unattractive? It's a very nice thought, but I'd be lying >if I said looks weren't important (at least to begin with. The great >thing is how unpredictable everyone's taste is (myself included). You >know those sprawling late-night converstions when you discuss 'your >type' and next week you meet someone who just doesn't conform to it at >all. > >One interesting thing is how girls have no problem saying that another >girl is lovely, while boys will skirt the issue. I'm speaking very >generally of course, but it's kind of sad. Yes! WHy cannot some of these boys just admit thnigs!And why do they love lesbians so much? It confuses!They beg me to kiss another girl while they watch or to do catfight! Why? If you ask them to do the same with another guy they scream in fear,then they tell me I 'don't understand'.What is there to understand! They make no sense! Anyways,oh I'm so envious of you attending shows! Have Belle and Sebastian ever played North America? I will wish and wish and wish that they will come here and perhaps it will become true then. And on bloke depression,that is sweet the boy who said what about girl depression! That you take solace in Belle and Sebastian....if only I had a bloke who loved Belle and Sebastian to BE depressed about.Beautiful blue-eyed boy working at record store doesn't count either...(such a dream fro me! *sniff sniff** Besides,he scare me veyr much today,my ears are used to going in and hearing lovely music,today I went in to hear the sounds of a million dying cats,it made me laugh! (But I didn't want to offend so I tried to cover my smile,that is hard is't it..trying not to laugh) That's all I suppose,since I am so so so faw away from ever seeing any of these gigs,you lovely people will opst about the experience,please? Thankyou! Love,love Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From dbcloud at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 22:33:08 1997 From: dbcloud at xxx.com (Douglas Wolk) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:33:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: R-E-S-P-E-C-T Message-ID: "...Take care, T.C.B." As in "taking care of business." As in Elvis's personal motto/belt-buckle, just to bring this back to something vaguely "Century Of Elvis"-related. Douglas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sjohns32 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 22 06:25:51 1997 From: sjohns32 at xxx.edu (sara) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:25:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: tigermilk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ok, i think i've been lurking for long enough, and i would introduce myself etc. but i'm really bad at things like that. anyway, i can't take it anymore. i need a copy of tigermilk. so if there's anyone who doesn't mind making one more copy, i would really appreciate it. sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 19:28:04 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:28:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <971121142803_1105467427@mrin83.mail.aol.com> Magnetic Fields are one of NYC's best bands. Stephen is the key songwriter but Claudia is a very fixed and essential member of the band as well. An album they did that many are familiar with is the 6th record on London. It was MF songs with guest singers (Amelia Heavenly, Dean Luna, Barbara Manning, Chris Knox, etc) and it's really great, though Stephen's voice is always better than any guest vocalist. He also records under the name Future Bible Heroes (an 8tees synth-pop thing like Anything Box). Merge puts out the MF records in the States. . .don't know about the UK. B&S fans might really like him cause he has clever, witty, ambiguous, foxy lyrics. He's a bit of a downer at times though ("all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain, all the dope in new york couldn't stop this pain, all the money in tokyo couldn't make me stay, all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain . . ."). (sigh) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 21:38:33 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:38:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: True Life Confessions (NBSC) References: Message-ID: <3475FF59.BCFFA5B6@totalweb.co.uk> Laurel Girvan wrote: > i never heard anything about velour hats, but don't wear a red > handkerchief in your back pocket in parts of america unless you want some > extra attention. nowadays i wouldn't wear a velour hat either.mine was pink and caused a lot of commotion, i was a lonely suede fan that'd not bought a music paper and hadn't known what i should look like, the hat was picked up at a market stall in glastonbury or glas' as the snobs try and call it. i lost it a year later watching primal scream in the rain. david kitchen -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Nov 97 14:40:08 PST, "bradford" said: << the gothic archies have an album coming out on merge. it was supposed to be released last week, but got pushed back. they have an e.p. out on hello records that is near impossible to find. >> AJAX have the ep. http://www.ajaxrecords.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Sat Nov 22 01:11:01 1997 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs In-Reply-To: <199711220030.AAA12496@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: HI there, Im studying in the UNI of Bradford and am looking for people who are going to the Belle and Sebastian gig on the 27th DEC .... going from Bradford itself or there isnt anyone???? Cheers Daniel Loo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 13:38:14 1997 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:38:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jacobites Message-ID: I have to agree with the person who recommended The Jacobites LPs - they're FANTASTIC! I've put them on a couple of times but they're not really worth any people. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://surf.to/varsity ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 21:38:33 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 21:38:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: True Life Confessions (NBSC) References: Message-ID: <3475FF59.BCFFA5B6@totalweb.co.uk> Laurel Girvan wrote: > i never heard anything about velour hats, but don't wear a red > handkerchief in your back pocket in parts of america unless you want some > extra attention. nowadays i wouldn't wear a velour hat either.mine was pink and caused a lot of commotion, i was a lonely suede fan that'd not bought a music paper and hadn't known what i should look like, the hat was picked up at a market stall in glastonbury or glas' as the snobs try and call it. i lost it a year later watching primal scream in the rain. david kitchen -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Fri Nov 21 22:56:21 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:56:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V1 #72 Message-ID: <199711212256.RAA14437@Vector.inexpress.net> >Oh blimey, everyone's gone all confessional on me. It's funny how we >seem to be capable of discussing fairly personal things with people >who are, let's face it, virtual strangers. I'm not complaining, it's >just funny. Sorry, I've always been so boringly sure of my >inclinations, even when it seemed that everyone around me was rushing >out of the closet, with a wink and a 'Tag's next'. It never happened, >Nastassja Kinski always beat Alain Delon (not literally, of course, >though that's a fascinating thought). At the end of the day, facial >stubble just doesn't float my boat. > >David, are you really being honest when you say you never think about >attractive/unattractive? It's a very nice thought, but I'd be lying >if I said looks weren't important (at least to begin with. The great >thing is how unpredictable everyone's taste is (myself included). You >know those sprawling late-night converstions when you discuss 'your >type' and next week you meet someone who just doesn't conform to it at >all. > >One interesting thing is how girls have no problem saying that another >girl is lovely, while boys will skirt the issue. I'm speaking very >generally of course, but it's kind of sad. Yes! WHy cannot some of these boys just admit thnigs!And why do they love lesbians so much? It confuses!They beg me to kiss another girl while they watch or to do catfight! Why? If you ask them to do the same with another guy they scream in fear,then they tell me I 'don't understand'.What is there to understand! They make no sense! Anyways,oh I'm so envious of you attending shows! Have Belle and Sebastian ever played North America? I will wish and wish and wish that they will come here and perhaps it will become true then. And on bloke depression,that is sweet the boy who said what about girl depression! That you take solace in Belle and Sebastian....if only I had a bloke who loved Belle and Sebastian to BE depressed about.Beautiful blue-eyed boy working at record store doesn't count either...(such a dream fro me! *sniff sniff** Besides,he scare me veyr much today,my ears are used to going in and hearing lovely music,today I went in to hear the sounds of a million dying cats,it made me laugh! (But I didn't want to offend so I tried to cover my smile,that is hard is't it..trying not to laugh) That's all I suppose,since I am so so so faw away from ever seeing any of these gigs,you lovely people will opst about the experience,please? Thankyou! Love,love Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Nov 22 06:22:09 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:22:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Gay Stu Message-ID: <971122012208_748457755@mrin38> In a message dated 97-11-21 01:56:35 EST, you write: > Lastly. Is Stuart Murdoch gay? Just being curious thats > > all, nothing funny, but > > is he? > > > > Most of the time he sounds quite miserable, but there is the > odd outbreak of gaiety from time to time. > Years and years ago, we referred to a homosexual friend as "gay" in front of my grandmother, who apparently filed that piece of updated vocabulary away. After an outing of the church ladies (to a winery!?), she told us how all the other women were discussing the trip and kept saying it had been "such a gay day!" Gram was quite pleased with herself for knowing the "new" meaning of the word, and had chuckled to herself all the way home. Of course, Gram used to refer to her new neighbor as "a hanger." It took us quite a while to figure out that she meant "hooker" -- and she was embarrassed to learn what it meant... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 13:38:14 1997 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 13:38:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jacobites Message-ID: I have to agree with the person who recommended The Jacobites LPs - they're FANTASTIC! I've put them on a couple of times but they're not really worth any people. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://surf.to/varsity ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sjohns32 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 22 06:25:51 1997 From: sjohns32 at xxx.edu (sara) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:25:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: tigermilk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ok, i think i've been lurking for long enough, and i would introduce myself etc. but i'm really bad at things like that. anyway, i can't take it anymore. i need a copy of tigermilk. so if there's anyone who doesn't mind making one more copy, i would really appreciate it. sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. 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We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From xpx71 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 17:35:39 1997 From: xpx71 at xxx.com (Tim Jones) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 17:35:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs Message-ID: <199711220030.AAA12496@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Is anyone / Does anyone know someone going to the gig on the 28th from the Southport area of Merseyside? I`m having enourmous difficulty finding someone to go with ( everyone complains of that stupid thing called work ). Cheers, Tim. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Sat Nov 22 01:11:01 1997 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:11:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs In-Reply-To: <199711220030.AAA12496@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: HI there, Im studying in the UNI of Bradford and am looking for people who are going to the Belle and Sebastian gig on the 27th DEC .... going from Bradford itself or there isnt anyone???? Cheers Daniel Loo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 20:38:41 1997 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:38:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 21 Nov 97 14:40:08 PST, "bradford" said: << the gothic archies have an album coming out on merge. it was supposed to be released last week, but got pushed back. they have an e.p. out on hello records that is near impossible to find. >> AJAX have the ep. http://www.ajaxrecords.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Nov 21 19:44:02 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:44:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BOO! to the business world.... Message-ID: Really bad news people!!! Ok, maybe good news for you but bad for me! I can only come to the one gig on the Sat. (weep, weep) Are we still going to try and meet up on the Sat before the gig??? Please!! I'll be really upset if everyone meets up the day I'mnot there!!! Misheard lyrics, OK then. I always thought the Stars of track and Field 1st line went 'making you cold turkey day to suit your affairs'. And did I feel a donut when I heard the real words. durr. But thats the only one I've not got. You think Stuart Murdochs voice is hard to understand, have you ever tried to transcribe any Manics songs? JDB has a beautiful voice, he just don't annunciate proper like wot we do! And to whoever wrote about being scared to write to B&S-they don't reply to fanzine questionnaires at any rate. Arse. i shall try again. And I call that evening session guy 'Steve La Twat'. Ooh, the wittiness of me. nahahaha. He just annoys me. Oh, and I love the cookies and cream haagen daaz. so long, farewell, aufwierdersehn goodbye-- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Fri Nov 21 19:28:04 1997 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 14:28:04 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <971121142803_1105467427@mrin83.mail.aol.com> Magnetic Fields are one of NYC's best bands. Stephen is the key songwriter but Claudia is a very fixed and essential member of the band as well. An album they did that many are familiar with is the 6th record on London. It was MF songs with guest singers (Amelia Heavenly, Dean Luna, Barbara Manning, Chris Knox, etc) and it's really great, though Stephen's voice is always better than any guest vocalist. He also records under the name Future Bible Heroes (an 8tees synth-pop thing like Anything Box). Merge puts out the MF records in the States. . .don't know about the UK. B&S fans might really like him cause he has clever, witty, ambiguous, foxy lyrics. He's a bit of a downer at times though ("all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain, all the dope in new york couldn't stop this pain, all the money in tokyo couldn't make me stay, all the umbrellas in london couldn't stop this rain . . ."). (sigh) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Nov 22 06:22:09 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:22:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Gay Stu Message-ID: <971122012208_748457755@mrin38> In a message dated 97-11-21 01:56:35 EST, you write: > Lastly. Is Stuart Murdoch gay? Just being curious thats > > all, nothing funny, but > > is he? > > > > Most of the time he sounds quite miserable, but there is the > odd outbreak of gaiety from time to time. > Years and years ago, we referred to a homosexual friend as "gay" in front of my grandmother, who apparently filed that piece of updated vocabulary away. After an outing of the church ladies (to a winery!?), she told us how all the other women were discussing the trip and kept saying it had been "such a gay day!" Gram was quite pleased with herself for knowing the "new" meaning of the word, and had chuckled to herself all the way home. Of course, Gram used to refer to her new neighbor as "a hanger." It took us quite a while to figure out that she meant "hooker" -- and she was embarrassed to learn what it meant... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sjohns32 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 22 06:25:51 1997 From: sjohns32 at xxx.edu (sara) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 00:25:51 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: tigermilk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ok, i think i've been lurking for long enough, and i would introduce myself etc. but i'm really bad at things like that. anyway, i can't take it anymore. i need a copy of tigermilk. so if there's anyone who doesn't mind making one more copy, i would really appreciate it. sara ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Nov 22 06:22:09 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 01:22:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Gay Stu Message-ID: <971122012208_748457755@mrin38> In a message dated 97-11-21 01:56:35 EST, you write: > Lastly. Is Stuart Murdoch gay? Just being curious thats > > all, nothing funny, but > > is he? > > > > Most of the time he sounds quite miserable, but there is the > odd outbreak of gaiety from time to time. > Years and years ago, we referred to a homosexual friend as "gay" in front of my grandmother, who apparently filed that piece of updated vocabulary away. After an outing of the church ladies (to a winery!?), she told us how all the other women were discussing the trip and kept saying it had been "such a gay day!" Gram was quite pleased with herself for knowing the "new" meaning of the word, and had chuckled to herself all the way home. Of course, Gram used to refer to her new neighbor as "a hanger." It took us quite a while to figure out that she meant "hooker" -- and she was embarrassed to learn what it meant... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cew29 at xxx.uk Sat Nov 22 11:29:09 1997 From: cew29 at xxx.uk (Chloe) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:29:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: What my Gran says In-Reply-To: <971122012208_748457755@mrin38> Message-ID: Of course, Gram > used to refer to her new neighbor as "a hanger." It took us quite a while to > figure out that she meant "hooker" -- and she was embarrassed to learn what > it meant... > My Gran calls synchronised swimming 'sequenised swimming'. Far more appropriate. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinsel82 at xxx.com Sat Nov 22 11:48:42 1997 From: tinsel82 at xxx.com (Anna Litinski) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:48:42 PST Subject: Sinister: True Life Confessions (NBSC) Message-ID: <19971122114842.3976.qmail@hotmail.com> >Oh blimey, everyone's gone all confessional on me. It's funny how we >seem to be capable of discussing fairly personal things with people >who are, let's face it, virtual strangers. I'm not complaining, it's >just funny. Sorry, I've always been so boringly sure of my >inclinations, even when it seemed that everyone around me was rushing >out of the closet, with a wink and a 'Tag's next'. It never happened, >Nastassja Kinski always beat Alain Delon (not literally, of course, >though that's a fascinating thought). At the end of the day, facial >stubble just doesn't float my boat. > >David, are you really being honest when you say you never think about >attractive/unattractive? It's a very nice thought, but I'd be lying >if I said looks weren't important (at least to begin with. The great >thing is how unpredictable everyone's taste is (myself included). You >know those sprawling late-night converstions when you discuss 'your >type' and next week you meet someone who just doesn't conform to it at >all. > >One interesting thing is how girls have no problem saying that another >girl is lovely, while boys will skirt the issue. I'm speaking very >generally of course, but it's kind of sad. I remember when I was at >school doing one of those 'socio-personal studies' in the 6th form, >and talking about homosexuality, and the teacher asking everyone what >they thought about it, and being called a poof for ages afterwards cos >I just shrugged my shoulders and said it was no big deal. I hope that >didn't sound like 'oh I'm so liberated', it was just a story. Just >like my strange evening in a bar in Berlin called Cafe Anal (!). At >least one person on the list knows this story) but for the rest of you >- hey! that's for another time. > >Velour hats though....is that a giveaway? I never knew that.=20 >Like 'oh he's got his right ear pierced, he's...(nudge, nudge)...you >know' when you were at school). > >Blahdeblahdeblah.... > >Love >Tag xx >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Well, I've got *both* my ears pierced. Ahem. Isn't it obvious, though, why it's so much easier to confide things via email, to ppl you have never met?It's because you know they can't batter you for admitting you're "inclinations".(Well, this is the 20th century after all - what did I expect?Enlightened behaviour?) Also, doesn't it really piss you off when if you so much as hint that you might find ppl of your own sex attractive, everyone immediately assumes you're going to jump on them personally and have your evil way with them? Or is it just me? :( Anna xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Sat Nov 22 13:04:14 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:04:14 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Multiple mailings (again) Message-ID: Oh Gawd. Looks like I didn't solve the multiple mailing problem yesterday did I? But top-notch detective Andreas has come up with an idea and I'm trying it - this mail as an apology but also as a test. I tried about 3 things yesterday in an attempt to stop it. It looks like my mistake was assuming I am to blame - it might be a new subscriber to the list with such a badly configured mail program that it's bouncing back repeatedly. I've removed the suspect and mailed her/him. This doesn't mean the older messages won't still bounce a bit - I haven't got any control about what the brain-damaged program is doing - so PLEASE BE PATIENT! If it's any consolation, I, as list-owner, have received many hundreds of bounce admin messages from your mail servers worldwide. But that's my job. So apologies - bear with me! - and don't leave the list in exasperation if you can help it! I'll be mailing the people who unsubscribed in the last 24 hours as Andreas the Hero suggested if this attempt cracks the problem. Sorry again, Cilla ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinsel82 at xxx.com Sat Nov 22 11:48:42 1997 From: tinsel82 at xxx.com (Anna Litinski) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 03:48:42 PST Subject: Sinister: True Life Confessions (NBSC) Message-ID: <19971122114842.3976.qmail@hotmail.com> >Oh blimey, everyone's gone all confessional on me. It's funny how we >seem to be capable of discussing fairly personal things with people >who are, let's face it, virtual strangers. I'm not complaining, it's >just funny. Sorry, I've always been so boringly sure of my >inclinations, even when it seemed that everyone around me was rushing >out of the closet, with a wink and a 'Tag's next'. It never happened, >Nastassja Kinski always beat Alain Delon (not literally, of course, >though that's a fascinating thought). At the end of the day, facial >stubble just doesn't float my boat. > >David, are you really being honest when you say you never think about >attractive/unattractive? It's a very nice thought, but I'd be lying >if I said looks weren't important (at least to begin with. The great >thing is how unpredictable everyone's taste is (myself included). You >know those sprawling late-night converstions when you discuss 'your >type' and next week you meet someone who just doesn't conform to it at >all. > >One interesting thing is how girls have no problem saying that another >girl is lovely, while boys will skirt the issue. I'm speaking very >generally of course, but it's kind of sad. I remember when I was at >school doing one of those 'socio-personal studies' in the 6th form, >and talking about homosexuality, and the teacher asking everyone what >they thought about it, and being called a poof for ages afterwards cos >I just shrugged my shoulders and said it was no big deal. I hope that >didn't sound like 'oh I'm so liberated', it was just a story. Just >like my strange evening in a bar in Berlin called Cafe Anal (!). At >least one person on the list knows this story) but for the rest of you >- hey! that's for another time. > >Velour hats though....is that a giveaway? I never knew that.=20 >Like 'oh he's got his right ear pierced, he's...(nudge, nudge)...you >know' when you were at school). > >Blahdeblahdeblah.... > >Love >Tag xx >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Well, I've got *both* my ears pierced. Ahem. Isn't it obvious, though, why it's so much easier to confide things via email, to ppl you have never met?It's because you know they can't batter you for admitting you're "inclinations".(Well, this is the 20th century after all - what did I expect?Enlightened behaviour?) Also, doesn't it really piss you off when if you so much as hint that you might find ppl of your own sex attractive, everyone immediately assumes you're going to jump on them personally and have your evil way with them? Or is it just me? :( Anna xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Nov 22 16:12:37 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:12:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? Message-ID: <971122111236_-221909321@mrin85.mail.aol.com> I seem to be getting many of the posts 2 and three times -- is anyone else experiencing this, or is it just AOL screwing up as they so often do? I had a post returned for "too many hops" (great to picture my message jumping merrily across the Atlantic with wings on its feet! -- only to land with a splash and sink out of sight right off the coast. All for the better as it was written at a very late hour after Chinese food and sake with old friends and I really can't remember what I might have said in it), and seem to have missed a chunk of postings mid-week. Very jealous of all those who will be going to the Manchester shows!! Please bring back many many "cyber polaroids" to share... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sat Nov 22 16:32:45 1997 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 11:32:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: you can bet it is a bitch,kid Message-ID: <199711221632.LAA05433@Vector.inexpress.net> >Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 19:44:02 +0000 >From: Sarah >Subject: Sinister: BOO! to the business world.... > >Really bad news people!!! Ok, maybe good news for you but bad for me! I >can only come to the one gig on the Sat. (weep, weep) Are we still going >to try and meet up on the Sat before the gig??? Please!! I'll be really >upset if everyone meets up the day I'mnot there!!! > >Misheard lyrics, OK then. I always thought the Stars of track and Field >1st line went 'making you cold turkey day to suit your affairs'. And did >I feel a donut when I heard the real words. durr. > >But thats the only one I've not got. You think Stuart Murdochs voice is >hard to understand, have you ever tried to transcribe any Manics songs? >JDB has a beautiful voice, he just don't annunciate proper like wot we >do! > >And to whoever wrote about being scared to write to B&S-they don't reply >to fanzine questionnaires at any rate. Arse. i shall try again. Oh,I know the annoyance of that,alright,my friend loves Kula Shaker very much (please don't hit me!) so I wrote up a questionnaire for Alonza Bevan,maybe there were soem spelling mistakese but all in all it was nice,I even decorated the front cover very 'mystic' style,I had my friend who was attending the concert,throw it on stage and Alonza himself picked it up!Along with soem flowers attached... This was last November,no replies yet! Maybe he didn't like some questions but they were all in good nature,I jsut ask if they ever smack up Crispo a bit,and if he enjoyed it? plus other good questions, Ah! Someone knocking on door..one sec... anyways,yes now I'm here with a phamplet that says 'Will Everyone Ever Love One Another' so I was saying,Alonza's opinion doesn't exactly insult or bother me,but I can just imagine the ridicule from Stuart..feel the wrath of Belle and Sebastian... Jacobnites,who are they..oh has anyone heard of a group called Rootjoose? love and posion, Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Sat Nov 22 19:25:28 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 13:25:28 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Sessions @ W. 54th Message-ID: Well, I've been diligently checking the Sessions homepage for weeks now... And today I checked the "Upcoming Sessions" schedule (through next year) BUT THERE WASN'T ANY LISTING FOR THE B&S SESSIONS! Why is this?? Has it been cancelled? Or maybe postponed so that its airing will correspond with the release of the Modern Rock Song EP or new album?? Answers, I need answers! So I can set my VCR!! thanks, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "At another table, a girl stared solemnly into her cup. Jim wished he could've taken her picture. But then he was afraid that he might steal the moment away from her." --Belle and Sebastian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Nov 22 21:26:05 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 21:26:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We can't get enough? References: Message-ID: <34774DED.A2713AEC@totalweb.co.uk> Richard Banner wrote: > B+S on the Radio and TV. > ------------------------ > > Just a couple of points..... > > 1. In the mail out it was mentioned that B+S 'might' be > appearing on 'Later with Jools Holland' on the 29th November(i > think, sorry haven't got it at hand)...any concrete info or > developments?. yep, it's not happening. sorry, but it was going to prove too difficult at such short notice to work out all the details, but they've got an open offer if a gap should appear in the future. > 2. Also...on the grape vine people keep talking about > 'Evening sessions' on Radio1 and there occurences. Whats > happening here then? - are there any up and coming sessions > planned or are any going to be repeated?(i've never heard one - so > sad) we don't know, after a session is recorded it's considered the property of the radio station/company that recorded it. therefore they can do whatever they want with it (broadcast wise) without hacing to inform the band or record company first. so we don't know! > And finally.....gigs are great and all are trying.....but can the > list be told of any up and coming: TV appearances or Radio > Sessions in general? if we ever know solid enough details yes, but the vast majority of stuff is worked out at the last minute and it's hard to actually work out what was done. but if we ever know solid info, we'll let you all know. (don't ask to give you all the rumours, there are always too many to keep track of and you'll end up running in circles.). > Rich david kitchen -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Sat Nov 22 21:15:08 1997 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 19:15:08 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Magnetic Fields Message-ID: <22150854109212@secrel.com.br> you wrote: >He's a bit of a downer at times though ("all the umbrellas in london couldn't >stop this rain, all the dope in new york couldn't stop this pain, all the >money in tokyo couldn't make me stay, all the umbrellas in london couldn't >stop this rain . . ."). This song is from *Get Lost* and this album is SO AMAZING ! One of the best American bands. Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Sat Nov 22 21:51:28 1997 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam ) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 16:51:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sessions @ W. 54th References: Message-ID: <347753E0.58DC@interaccess.com> Amanda Bergman wrote: > > Well, I've been diligently checking the Sessions homepage for weeks now... > > And today I checked the "Upcoming Sessions" schedule (through next year) > BUT THERE WASN'T ANY LISTING FOR THE B&S SESSIONS! > > Why is this?? Has it been cancelled? Or maybe postponed so that its airing > will correspond with the release of the Modern Rock Song EP or new album?? > > Answers, I need answers! So I can set my VCR!! The rumour 'round here was that it was gonna be shown late December. Consider this: it took them 6+ months to air the Ben Folds Five taping, so hopefully all we'll need is patience. Maybe Gerard Cosloy knows...? Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Sat Nov 22 22:30:55 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Sat, 22 Nov 1997 22:30:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: magnetic fields? In-Reply-To: <1885412E49@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971122223055.006912c0@mail.u-net.com> At 09:03 AM 11/21/97 +0000, Dr C.B.Stride wrote: > >> I have heard the name magnetic fields in several places. I was just wondering >> who are they and are they any good?? > >They are an American band (or rather a bloke called Stephin Merrit, >with various collaboraters and musicians who seem to change each >album),...sound a bit similar to B&S... Hmm well the 2 albums I have sound NOTHING like B&S, they sound like women folky singers with sort of synthy backing. They are ok in a good way.. JJ x ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From initgrl at xxx.org Sun Nov 23 05:09:21 1997 From: initgrl at xxx.org (jj heldmann) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:09:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: photos of the band In-Reply-To: <34532B93.6849@virgin.net> Message-ID: while procrastinating instead of working on a paper, i found some photos from the cmj show... http://www.sirius.com/~zum/cmj2.html xo jj ***************************************** fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 www.mindspring.com/~initialgirl/fantastic ***************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Sun Nov 23 08:03:35 1997 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 03:03:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Sessions @ W. 54th Message-ID: <971123030335_-725073864@mrin79> I'd heard it was going to be Dec 27, a split show with (another of my faves) Jane Siberry. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sun Nov 23 10:23:00 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:23:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Magnetic Fields References: <22150854109212@secrel.com.br> Message-ID: <34780404.C1CCF743@mail.zynet.co.uk> Ivo A P Escossia wrote: > you wrote: > >He's a bit of a downer at times though ("all > the umbrellas in london couldn't > >stop this rain, all the dope in new york > couldn't stop this pain, all the > >money in tokyo couldn't make me stay, all the > umbrellas in london couldn't > >stop this rain . . ."). > > This song is from *Get Lost* and this album is > SO AMAZING ! > One of the best American bands. agreed on this one. 'get lost' is indeed a great record, not least for the heartstopping 'with whom to dance'. certainly worth checking out... the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.W.Hunn at xxx.uk Sun Nov 23 14:02:02 1997 From: S.W.Hunn at xxx.uk (Hunn) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 14:02:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: spiritualized In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, Matrix wrote: > Spiritualized is an offspring of Spacemen 3 led by Jason Pierce. They have > released the indisputable album of the year called LADIES AND GENTLEMEN WE > ARE FLOATING IN SPACE. It is as sonically and lyrically devastating as IF > YOU'RE FEELING SINISTER is charming and inspiring. Every song is a > symphonic wonder and the record thunders with gospel choirs, orchestras, > guitars and synths and the band is kick ass as well. I can't go on enough > about this record. The DARK SIDE OF THE MOON of the 90's. > > I have not seen them live yet but I will in a couple of weeks. It took a > while for LADIES to replace IFYS as my favorite album of 1997, but it is > undeniably better. I saw them about a month ago at the UEA (Norwich) and, hand on heart, it was the best and most beautiful thing I have ever experienced in my life (21 years if anyone's interested). Although the band's regular keyboard player - the ravishing Kate Radley, alledged partner of Richard Ashcroft - was not there, the combination of strings, brass, classiccal samples, beutifully fucked-up guitars and not to mention Jason's fantastic vocals floating out amongst us fortunate enough to be there and touching our heartstrings unlike anything ever experienced before or since. They played for a full 2 hour set with not even one interlude between tracks. Jason maintained the musical bliss throughout by blending and fusing each track into each other with what seemed to be spontaneous bursts of mellow genious with his guitar. Perfection. All this was intertwined with breathtaking laser visual effects that took me into what seemed another planet in a dimension far away from the shitty reality of a cold october night in Norfolk. I was in awe of the whole thing, dumbstruck by the chaos and psychedelia thatcould have only been produced by Jason Pierce, a man who refuses to eat any form of solid food whatsoever (seriously!). Jason is well known for his indulges into the world of chemical concoctions, making Keith Richards look like Father Christmas. An earlier album release of his entitled "Taking drugs to make music to take drugs to" in his former band SPACEMEN 3 sums his philosophy nicely. Ladies and Gentlemen we are floating in space - brilliant, beautiful, epic, a masterpiece, perfection. I could go on and on but this IS a B&S list after all so I'm sorry if I've bored anyone with my rantings. Please buy the album though and you'll find out for yourself. > >does anyone know anything about the band spiritualized? they are playing near > >where i live and i want to know if they're worth seeing. YESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYEYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYESY Nice one SIMON ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Sun Nov 23 15:03:43 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 97 15:03:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: spiritualized References: Message-ID: <971123150343.n0005697.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 23 Nov 97, Hunn wrote... >I saw them(spiritualized) about a month ago at the UEA (Norwich) and, hand on heart, it >was the best and most beautiful thing I have ever experienced in my >life (21 years if anyone's interested). >Although the band's regular keyboard player - the ravishing Kate Radley, >alledged partner of Richard Ashcroft - was not there, the combination of >strings, brass, classiccal samples, beutifully fucked-up guitars and not to >mention Jason's fantastic vocals floating out amongst us fortunate enough to be >there and touching our heartstrings unlike anything ever experienced before or >since. >They played for a full 2 hour set with not even one interlude between >tracks. Jason maintained the musical bliss throughout by blending and >fusing each track into each other with what seemed to be spontaneous >bursts of mellow genious with his guitar. Perfection. All this was >intertwined with breathtaking laser visual effects that took me into >what seemed another planet in a dimension far away from the shitty >reality of a cold october night in Norfolk. I was in awe of the whole >thing, dumbstruck by the chaos and psychedelia thatcould have only been >produced by Jason Pierce, a man who refuses to eat any form of solid food >whatsoever (seriously!). Jason is well known for his indulges into the >world of chemical concoctions, making Keith Richards look like Father >Christmas. >An earlier album release of his entitled "Taking drugs to make music to >take drugs to" in his former band SPACEMEN 3 sums his philosophy nicely. >Ladies and Gentlemen we are floating in space - brilliant, beautiful, >epic, a masterpiece, perfection. I could go on and on but this IS a B&S >list after all so I'm sorry if I've bored anyone with my rantings. >Please buy the album though and you'll find out for yourself. > Did you take any 'substances' whilst watching the band that night, cos you do seem to be have travelled to another plane judging by your review ;-) I remember partaking of some particular herb before seeing Flowered Up of all things and in my state of mind actually thinking they were AWESOME ( god almighty). They had this man in a big polysytrene 'flower' get up and I thought it was BEAUTIFUL, telling all my friends the next day about this fantastic new band. They made one or two half baked 'baggy' singles and sank without trace. Susannah xx susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sun Nov 23 16:20:23 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:20:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: I don't do drugs, all my friends are on their holidays In-Reply-To: <971123150343.n0005697.tormentor@mail.clara.net> References: <971123150343.n0005697.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <347b563d.3803903@email.mcmail.com> On Sun, 23 Nov 97 15:03:43 GMT, Susannah wrote: >Did you take any 'substances' whilst watching the band that night, cos >you do seem to be have travelled to another plane judging by your review ;-) In my student days, thinking magic mushrooms might be a pretty cool idea, and going to see Spacemen 3. And guess what. They were shit. >I remember partaking of some particular herb before seeing Flowered Up of all >things >and in my state of mind actually thinking they were AWESOME ( god almighty). >They had this man in a big polysytrene 'flower' get up and I thought it was >BEAUTIFUL, telling all my friends the next day about this fantastic new band. >They made one or two half baked 'baggy' singles and sank without trace. Now it's funny you should say that. On the first of the two occasions I ever took ecstacy, it was at a Flowered Up gig at Shoreditch Town Hall (this is 1990 or something). And I was convinced that the support were the future of music. Their name - Ocean Colour Scene. Kids - just say no.... Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Nov 23 15:57:50 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:57:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sfa and b&s and cheese on toast on sat. Message-ID: Hi people! Just thought I might mention that B&S are a new hot topic on the Super Furries list!!! And they've got a lot of fans there! A sfa/b&s thing going on? Well, B&S have got the analogue synths on Electronic Renaissance there! Does anyone (Katrina?) know who the Pet Shop Boys fan is in B&S because ER is very reminiscent! So anyone going to Manchester on the Sat wants to meet up? I hear the cafe on the top floor of Afflecks palace does the best cheese on toast in the world! sayonara! Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sun Nov 23 16:39:49 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 16:39:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sfa and b&s and cheese on toast on sat. References: Message-ID: <34785C55.844E149B@totalweb.co.uk> Sarah wrote: > Hi people! > > Just thought I might mention that B&S are a new hot topic on the Super > Furries list!!! And they've got a lot of fans there! A sfa/b&s thing > going on? Well, B&S have got the analogue synths on Electronic > Renaissance there! Does anyone (Katrina?) know who the Pet Shop Boys fan > is in B&S because ER is very reminiscent! well, stuart murdoch wrote it, so if your link is correct then it's him! > So anyone going to Manchester on the Sat wants to meet up? I hear the > cafe on the top floor of Afflecks palace does the best cheese on toast > in the world! probably nowhere near as good as the veggie breakfast that you can get in the grosvenor cafe in glagow though, we regularly make large diversions in our journeys to stop there. > sayonara! > Sarah and us, david & katrina ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sun Nov 23 17:22:10 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:22:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: mmmm....cheese on toast on sat. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34786601.111030@email.mcmail.com> On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:57:50 +0000, Sarah wrote: >Hi people! > >Just thought I might mention that B&S are a new hot topic on the Super >Furries list!!! And they've got a lot of fans there! A sfa/b&s thing >going on? Well, B&S have got the analogue synths on Electronic >Renaissance there! Does anyone (Katrina?) know who the Pet Shop Boys fan >is in B&S because ER is very reminiscent! Hey, I like the Pet Shop Boys. >So anyone going to Manchester on the Sat wants to meet up? I hear the >cafe on the top floor of Afflecks palace does the best cheese on toast >in the world! Oh no, it's better at Cafe Pop on Oldham Street, and their chocolate fudge cakes are delicious (Tag - stop talking about food). And it's a lovely cafe. If everyone goes there they won't know what's hit them. It's getting very exciting isn't it? Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Sun Nov 23 20:39:04 1997 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:39:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manchester Gigs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, CMD LOO wrote: > HI there, > > Im studying in the UNI of Bradford and am looking for people who are > going to the Belle and Sebastian gig on the 27th DEC .... going from > Bradford itself or there isnt anyone???? > > Cheers > > Daniel Loo > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon at xxx.uk Sun Nov 23 20:47:03 1997 From: jon at xxx.uk (jon at xxx.uk) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:47:03 GMT Subject: Sinister: New to the list and grovelling for help Message-ID: <880316611.2028891.0@mammoth.demon.co.uk> Hello all I just thought I'd say 'hello' to you all, and say how glad I am that there are people out there talking about B&S....I heard 'If you're feeling Sinister' at the beginning of this year (okay so I was behind the times...) and I've been hooked ever since, but I haven't been able to get a copy of 'Tigermilk' and I havn't been in the house when they've been on the radio, so I have a request to make of all you nice folk out there... Can anyone please tape me a copy of 'Tigermilk' as well as the three Radio One sessions???? I will, of course, supply blank tapes and postage ( as well as my eternal gratitude...) I hope you can help me, and I hope that the two people whi I emailed from the mailing list archives - who I think may have received a garbled message from me - can forgive me for confusing them :) Anyway, I live in hope that my search will heard here on the list, and boy am I glad that we'll get some decent reviews of the Manchester gigs rather than bored music journos in the NME Later JON PS: Just heard the Norman Cook remix of Cornershop's 'Brimful of Asha' on Xfm and it is amazing...... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jim.nisbet at xxx.com Mon Nov 24 08:23:56 1997 From: jim.nisbet at xxx.com (Jim Nisbet) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 00:23:56 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Sessions at West 54th Message-ID: <3479399C.2A58@dial.pipex.com> Not news of the B&S appearance I'm afraid but a reference in an article in today's Independent on Sunday review section in the UK. The piece is a profile of film-maker DA Pennebaker, mainly about his 'rockumentaries' but it also tells us that he is responsible for the interview segments in the TV programme. After a description for those of us on this side of the pond (which makes it sound like a programme well worth watching and not unlike Later with Jools Holland) it goes on: 'Although Pennebaker's involvement is restricted to 10 minutes of interviews in each hour-long episode, he apparently exerts pulling power, not only among viewers but performers. Douridas says the prospect of meeting the veteran film-maker lured the chronically diffident Scottish band Belle and Sebastian into giving their first television performance (they had a song called "Like Dylan in the Movies" on their last album). "They were very shy", recalls Pennebaker. "I really liked them."' Jim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Oxyura12 at xxx.com Mon Nov 24 02:09:09 1997 From: Oxyura12 at xxx.com (Oxyura12 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 21:09:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: chow Message-ID: <971123210908_-1775740512@mrin53.mail.aol.com> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MCCU6PW2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 09:15:34 1997 From: MCCU6PW2 at xxx.uk (Paul) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:15:34 GMT Subject: Sinister: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail v3.31 Message-ID: <484AFF20B5@fs2.ee.umist.ac.uk> unsubscribe sinister ___________________________________________________ Paul Woods, Mathematical Physics, UMIST, Manchester. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 09:34:36 1997 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:34:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: Sessions at West 54th (Forward) Message-ID: <199711240934.JAA22885@brookes.ac.uk> Jim Nisbet wrote: >'Although Pennebaker's involvement is restricted to 10 minutes of >interviews in each hour-long episode, he apparently exerts pulling power, >not only among viewers but performers. Douridas says the prospect of >meeting the veteran film-maker lured the chronically diffident Scottish >band Belle and Sebastian into giving their first television performance >(they had a song called "Like Dylan in the Movies" on their last album). >"They were very shy", recalls Pennebaker. "I really liked them."' I saw that too, and forgot to steal it from the pub to write to the list with, so thanks Jim, also, I was watching Live and Kicking, honestly, and Ian Brodie (Lightning Seeds) was asked what music he was listening to at the moment, and he said he was really into Belle & Sebastian. It fair made my day. Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 09:56:27 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:56:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I don't do drugs, all my friends are on their holidays Message-ID: <01bcf8bf$3b6d6bc0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Now it's funny you should say that. On the first of the two occasions I ever took ecstacy, it was at a Flowered Up gig at Shoreditch Town Hall (this is 1990 or something). And I was convinced that the support were the future of music. Their name - Ocean Colour Scene. Kids - just say no.... ====================== Hoho - Top one, Sorted, i'm on one matey! Flowered up were a strange band really, very contrived "Baggy from the South" style thing, but surprisingly good in compared to what they should have been given that they were at the total arse end of that scene. Tag - got your tape and it's great, I haven't got through all of it yet but I've done you a tape - yourself and Peter's tape should be in the post this week, major apologies for the timing on this front as I say it's been release time for us and it's hectic. Listening to the song that St.Etienne played a few years ago brought back vivid memories which was good. I suppose I should have told Bob that as a matter of politeness - although I suppose also it may've seemed rude given that it's not their song! On the tape is a pile of Mo'Wax stuff, not including Shadow, although I've put Zimbabwe Legit and the Shadow mix of Krush's Meiso on it - which you may have, but it was worth the risk as they're brilliant. See you're meeting Susannah and Steven Trousee (can't find e acute on my keyboard I'm afraid) next week, hope that goes well and say hello from me, cheers for the ticket, are you coming up for the Glasgow thing then? I'll be going certainly, just put a new fan belt on my car so a wee jaunt along the M8 ought to recharge the battery! David Nicoll - Coming to Manchester then! Give us a shout. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iles at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 10:16:07 1997 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 10:16:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jon Message-ID: Sorry about this, but someone called Jon keeps emailing me, but his messages never include his address. So, Jon, if you're out there and want a reply, either get your mail sorted so it automatically includes your address in the 'reply to' section or write your address in your message. Otherwise I'm never ever going to be able to reply to your mail. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2064573 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James' University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ ____________________________________________________________________________ Understand that you are another world in miniature and that in you there are the sun, the moon and also stars Laetitia Sadier ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 972286231 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 11:24:26 1997 From: 972286231 at xxx.uk (MR NICK SANT) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:24:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: Misheard lyrics Message-ID: Just a quick note to say that until i got the CD of IYFS, i thought that on Stars of Track and Field, the yrics went "Make a new coat every day" And i've just remembered something else. I was round at a mates house getting glammed up before a fairly recent Manics gig and was playing the same song and i noticed that my friend Pete was actually wearing blue velour (cardigan) and silk (blouse). Take Care, Love & Rage, Nick. (972286231 at 97.lincoln.ac.uk) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 24 11:50:10 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:50:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Some Questions References: <01bcf684$1673b910$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <347969F2.41BF@virgin.net> Keith Watson wrote: > >3) Who are all the people on the back of IYFS? > > Belle and Sebastian. > > In reply to the other guy's post it's quite hard to identify. Stuart's > sitting down, I can see Mick but the rest are pretty hard to pick out > really, I haven't got it in front of me today. Umm, i thought it was Chris sitting down, Sarah in the middle with the arab stuff on, Ciara (Sinister cover-star) on the left in the arab get-up, and Richard third from the right. Whaddya reckon? Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 24 11:50:14 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:50:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester fandango References: Message-ID: <347969F6.6AC2@virgin.net> Stuart Gardiner wrote: > > OK, my turn to ask a few questions... > > 1, This meeting before the Sunday gig, when details are confirmed, will > they be posted to the list or do we all have to ring David & Katrina > ourselves? We'll mail the info to the list. > 2, Does anyone out there know anything about Future Pilot? Type of music, > whether they're any good or not, etc. Drum and bass style dj/band thing. One of Sarah's bands. > 3, What time are the gigs likely to finish? Am I going to have to spend > two nights sleeping on someone's floor (cheers Dan!), or can I get back to > Yorkshire on the Sunday night? God knows, we don't even know times for doors, support acts etc., so when we know we'll post it. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Nov 24 11:50:18 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 11:50:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Tickets Message-ID: <347969FA.50F4@virgin.net> Hello all, Now I know know you're all excited (and worried) about tickets for the Manchester gigs, but we are not able to reserve tickets for anyone. I know this is annoying, but the promoter is basically handling the sales for us, and we don't have the tickets (or the orders for them from you all) to check. So, please don't mail me about tickets unless you are really really worried. I will speak to Barry over the next couple of days to see how the tickets are going, and pass that info onto you all, but apart from that it is out of my hands. Sorry guys, hope you forgive us! Cheers, Katrina & David. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 13:03:32 1997 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 13:03:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Grannies and their peculiarities Message-ID: > Years and years ago, we referred to a homosexual friend as "gay" in > front of > my grandmother, who apparently filed that piece of updated vocabulary > away. > After an outing of the church ladies (to a winery!?), she told us how > all > the other women were discussing the trip and kept saying it had been > "such a > gay day!" Gram was quite pleased with herself for knowing the "new" > meaning > of the word, and had chuckled to herself all the way home. Of course, > Gram > used to refer to her new neighbor as "a hanger." It took us quite a > while to > figure out that she meant "hooker" -- and she was embarrassed to learn > what > it meant... > > My Gran calls synchronised swimming 'sequenised swimming'. Far more > appropriate. > >> O.K. well my gran was brought up in a pub and so knows some extremely rude songs (in a kind of nudge-nudge Edwardian kind of vernacular)and will perform these for the delight of anyone who's around. Apart from this embarrassing lapse of taste, she's really cool. Hmmm, must be genetic... Ho ho ho. I'm about as cool as a sandwich toaster in Death Valley in midsummer, darlings, and couldn't give a flying tackle, frankly. Back to grannies: My other nan (mother's mother) is a right old bag, and the least said the better. Lots of something, Liz. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 22:04:10 1997 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:04:10 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 session Message-ID: <479F91C0.1272@smlawpub.co.uk> My spies tell me that Jo Whiley has just announced that there will be a B&S session on Radio 1 tonight (Monday) at 6.30. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com Mon Nov 24 14:24:40 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com (Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 09:24:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a century of elvis Message-ID: <199711240925_MC2-28F5-4576@compuserve.com> OK here's my 'corrected' version. Some changes from Rob's: * Pam turns into Karen (or Wee Karen). * "It was pretty much the colour of it" becomes "He was playing with his collar a bit" (very elvis thing to do) * They didn't have strange manners and stuff, it was just elvis * It's definitely not the desk that they were sitting on - maybe (and this came to me in a flash of inspiration) the "mezzanine" we were sitting in the living room on the sofa, the wrong way round, looking out the window. it was quiet, and then in the car park across the road we saw elvis - look, there beside the postman's van, and he was walking round the postman's van, looking in the open door. he looked as if he was thinking about getting in, but then the postman came back, and he swaggered off, walked past the window and down the stairs, and then at the bottom of the stairs right by the caretaker's office, he started licking the pavement. every night now since we moved in that new house there's this noise outside the door at just about half seven or eight o' clock every night. and if we go and look outside the door, elvis'll be standing there waiting to be let in. and then he wanders into the living room, maybe sits down on one of the chairs or even lies down on the floor. he doesn't say much, he just stays there for an hour or two, watching the tv. we talk to him a bit, and then around ten o' clock, he'll go away again, and not come back until the next night. there's a lot of lanes and stuff around here, around the house - although it's right in the middle of the city it seems quite like the country, it's dead hidden - safe i suppose, made for night living. there's a lot of squirrels and birds, and stuart says he's seen about nine foxes there when he's jumped over the fence on his way to prior's road. sometimes you can go out walking, and when you've been out for a wee while even you don't know where you are anymore, so it would be pretty hard for anyone else to find you. i suppose that's why he spends so much time there, that's why he's come to live there, or maybe it's just the squirrels. i read about somewhere that he likes squirrels quite a lot. there's these two videos that we got for wedding presents - called the e-files, e-files one and e-files two about how elvis is supposed to be still alive. and one time when he came round we were watching one of those, but he didn't say anything he just sat on the armchair. he was playing with his collar a bit, and we watched it right through and then when it finished he just got up and walked off into the mist and didn't say anything. the first few times he came round i didn't speak to him at all, i wasn't really sure what to say. and karen spoke to him quite a lot - she seemed to know what to do more than i do. he had quite a strange manner though, he'd go into your stuff and look through it, then he'd maybe pick something up and play with it for a wee while, but he'd never make any comment about any of it. seemed pretty rude to me. i just watched whatever karen did, and listened to how she talked to him and then, after a while i started to copy that, and tell him a few things, not really bothered about whether he responded or said anything back or not. i think the first time i spoke to him we were sitting up on the mezzanine and i said that i would tell him about me and wee karen, and how it was that we'd come to be living there. i thought he probably liked the fact that we were living there because he came round so much, so i thought he might want to know how it was that it came about. we did it all over backwards, i told him . first of all we got to know each other, and then a while after that we met, and when we'd known each other for about seven years we decided to have an anniversary, and that went quite well, so after the anniversary we had a honeymoon, and that went well too, so after that we decided that we would get married. that's why we're living there now. i used to think my dad was elvis, but i haven't told him that yet. i haven't told my dad either... Will this do? I thought it might be nice to print it out in a nice font like gill sans, centre-justified and all, then to blow it up on the work photocopier and hope noone spots me doing it. Someone has already discovered the initial printout in the laser printer and wondered what on earth it was. Actually I quite enjoyed the confuision it generated. And reading it on the tube in my suit was even better. Adopting the air of a thrusting young business hotshot reading an important document in progress (which of course it was). I hope it was being read over my shoulder. Umm... really embarassing, shameful request that I've delayed making because there have been so many other people out-grovelling and out-apologising each other with the same plea that I've held back. But where has that got me? Nowhere. Coyness is nice and so on. So, hrrrmm... yes, if anyone would offer to tape 'Tigermilk' and/or R1 sessions for me I would so grateful that I'd probably build an effigy and found some kind of rudimentary religion around them. If that appeals then please get in touch by e-mail. Phew, done it. Oh yes, another thing - did I read somewhere that one of the band members works in John Smiths on Byre's Road? Just because that's where my sister worked for a little while about three years ago when she lived in one of the tenements just opposite. I seem to recall her telling me that someone out of the Pastels used to work there too. Nick Dastoor, An enslaved corporate library assistant longing for the tigermilk of human kindness. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 14:34:06 1997 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 14:34:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Thirteen way/lesbain action Message-ID: <1F185B114A9@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Hello, First of all cheers to all the people who gave me advuice about how to handle my wee computer problem. It seems to be sorted now.... at least I haven't heard anymore from the computer people at glasgow. Secondly, the 13th note did close for refurbishement, but it also moved. So I think theyre basically opening up two places when they re open (if they haven't already). I dont know wich bit Belle and Sebastian will be playing, or where the new bit is. Maybe someone else does..... And finally... wow! Suddenly everyones gone all sexy. Probably we've all heard the stuff about sexuality being blurred nowadays and all that and whateversexuall not really meaning that much anymore. Anyways I think Stuarts lyrics reflect this... he seems to feel some kind of attratction to both men and women anyhows. Also I think guys are obssesed with lesbians because we all secretly want to be lesbains.... it would solve some problems anyway. cheerio, neil ------------------------------------------------- " if you're chasing the morning, if you're sleeping all day..." ------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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This is to stop just this sort of thing: Sinister mailing to a mentally disturbed mail program that sends it back to the list, that sends it back to the program... In fact if I hadn't been sleeping I would have noticed that the bounced messages contained multiple footers indicating just this. Incidentally it may come as no surprise that the site concerned was using a Microsoft mailer... Oh and if you're receiving this and thought you'd unsubscribed - can I remind you to send sun/unsub requests NOT to this address but to: majordomo at majordomo.net I will NOT in general have time to do unsubscribes manually - too much (real) work (eh?). And if you close your email account: please unsubscribe from Sinister before! I know it's hard to remember but... spare a thought for my aching mailbox! I still love you all and want to have your babies. P ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 15:04:41 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (***Rob B*** :)) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:04:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: a century of elvis In-Reply-To: <199711240925_MC2-28F5-4576@compuserve.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at NOTES.compuserve.com wrote: > > OK here's my 'corrected' version. > > Some changes from Rob's: > > * Pam turns into Karen (or Wee Karen). > * "It was pretty much the colour of it" becomes "He was playing with his > collar a bit" (very elvis thing to do) > * They didn't have strange manners and stuff, it was just elvis > * It's definitely not the desk that they were sitting on - maybe (and > this came to me in a flash of inspiration) the "mezzanine" Cheers Nick I knew my version was littered with mistakes, and that clears up the ones I was least convinced with. So now I'm happy :) Rob P.S. Who's going up to Manchester for the Sunday from London? Apart from me, that is (provided my tickets have come through.. *heart skips a beat*) We could have a special Belle and Sebastian carriage on the train. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 15:39:44 1997 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:39:44 GMT Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 session tonight. Message-ID: <199711241539.PAA29825@brookes.ac.uk> Hello everyone. Mark Radcliffe has just confirmed that B&S are on the evening session tonight, along with a session from Ocean Colour Scene (yes !!). I hope it's a new session, but bet it's the one they broadcast in September. Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Mon Nov 24 15:52:48 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:52:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Future Pilot Aka Message-ID: <01BCF8F1.03F7A7A0@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Future Pilot Aka is the brain-child of Sushil Dade, once of The Soup Dragons fame. But don't be put off by this, because, on record at least, they sound very interesting - weird keyboards, sampled vocals, eastern rhythms. Their first single, "Night Flight To Memphis" on Creeping Bent records (as far as I know it was their first) was a collaboration with Kim Fowley, who delivered his trade-mark drawl over the top a cyclic keybord sample, and it's dead good. They have a second single out on Creeping Bent (I can't remember the title) which is a reworking of The Revolutionary Corps of Teenage Jesus/Alan Vega tune, "Protection Rat" (the title's a corruption of that), which I'm sure you're all familiar with? I've no idea what they'll be like live. Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 16:09:51 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:09:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Radio 1 session tonight. In-Reply-To: <199711241539.PAA29825@brookes.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, ben ferneyhough wrote: > Hello everyone. Mark Radcliffe has just confirmed that B&S are on the evening > session tonight, along with a session from Ocean Colour Scene (yes !!). > I hope it's a new session, but bet it's the one they broadcast in September. > Ben. Isn't it this week that they're asking listeners to vote for their favorite session of the year? So presumably if they've chosen to repeat the B&S session this week, it means most people at Radio 1 want them to win :-) Hopefully we'll get to hear Seymour Stein without Steve Lurpak talking all over the end this time... Oh yeah, and Jarvis & the rest of Pulp are doing John Peel's show all this week. Happy listening! Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Mon Nov 24 16:51:36 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:51:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Potential External Virus Message-ID: <199711241649.QAA00775@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> I have no idea if this is a hoax or not but there are so many weirdos out there surfing away that it probably isn't so YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! Potential External Virus: I have received the following message from a contact outside our firm. If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE CREW" DO NOT open it! It will erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send this letter out to as many people you can.......this is a new virus and not many people know about it! This information was received this morning from IBM, please share it with anyone that might access the Internet. Also, If anyone receives mail entitled; PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete it WITHOUT reading it!! This is a warning for all Internet users - there is a dangerous virus propagating across the Internet through an e-mail message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 15:20:58 1997 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 15:20:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jason Pierce Message-ID: >thing, dumbstruck by the chaos and psychedelia thatcould have only been >produced by Jason Pierce, a man who refuses to eat any form of solid food >whatsoever (seriously!). This is patently NOT true. I have promoted quite a few gigs by Spiritualized and Jason is no stranger to the catering room. Good rumour though.... I once heard that Apple Computers were so called because Steve Jobs thought if you ate an apple each day, you wouldn't need to wash! >Did you take any 'substances' whilst watching the band that night, cos >you do seem to be have travelled to another plane judging by your review ;-) He might not have - they are totally wicked live. The Albert Hall show was one of the best things I've seen on a stage. Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://surf.to/varsity ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Mon Nov 24 16:55:57 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 16:55:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Potential External Virus In-Reply-To: <199711241649.QAA00775@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, John Stuart wrote: > I have no idea if this is a hoax or not but there are so many weirdos out > there surfing away that it probably isn't so YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! > > Potential External Virus: > > I have received the following message from a contact outside our firm. > If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE CREW" DO NOT open it! It will STOP!!! DO NOT PASS THIS ON!!! These things make me so mad - they are HOAXES - the only virus is the fact that they get passed on. The Sinister list isn't for these and if you get one send it to me - I can find out if it's a hoax or not first! Better still, take a look at: http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/CIACHoaxes.html Phew. I get loads of these from people at work as well - try to stop them before people pass them on AGAIN... Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 24 17:48:16 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 12:48:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Misheard lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 24 Nov 1997, MR NICK SANT wrote: > Just a quick note to say that until i got the CD of IYFS, i thought > that on Stars of Track and Field, the yrics went "Make a new coat > every day" > >don't feel bad, i also though it was "coat," or "code" until i read the lyrics...no wonder i coundn't get the lines to make any sense! > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sfuchs at xxx.ie Mon Nov 24 18:23:16 1997 From: sfuchs at xxx.ie (Sven Fuchs) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:23:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re:Potential External Virus Message-ID: <3479C614.24C6@nmrc.ucc.ie> According to our computer support group guy it is a hoax. no virus can spread just by opening email-messages. Sven ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 18:25:12 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (***Rob B*** :)) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 18:25:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Seymour Stein chords... Message-ID: I don't know if this has been sent in before, but it's not on the website, so I presume not. Seymour Stein ------------- D / Em7 / D / Em7 (introduction) D Em7 D Seymour Stein Em7 D I've been lonely Em7 A Caught a glimpse of someone's face G D It reminded me I'd been crying Em7 D Half a world away Em7 D Ticket for a plane Em7 A Record company man G D I won't be coming to dinner (?) Em7 D My thoughts are far away Em7 D And I'm working all the day Em7 A North country girl I think she's going to Am Bm C Bm promises of fame, promises of fortune Am Bm C Bm LA to New York, San Francisco back to Boston C D North of Scotland has he seen C D Won't he hire a limousine C A Seymour send her back to me --- D, Em7, D, Em7, D, Em7, A, G --- D Em7 D (???????????) - sorry, don't have a clue what he sings here! Em7 D You like Chris's jacket Em7 A He reminded you of Johnny G D Before he got electronic Em7 D Seymour Stein Em7 D Sorry I missed you Em7 A Have a nice flight home G D It's a good day for flying Em7 D Seymour stein x4 Em7, D..... ad infinitum ---------------------------------------- (Em7 is <022033> I think, as least that's how I play it) I hope I got most of the lyrics right. Love to all, Rob xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Mon Nov 24 18:25:43 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 97 18:25:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: susannah and her dream of Elvis Message-ID: <971124182543.n0005732.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Back to funny old pop star dreams I'm afraid, No B&S dreams yet but last night I actually dreamt about THE KING! yeah! Well, I was in Elvis's house , it was really old fashioned with bus seat sofas and orange curtains like your grannies house and elvis was sitting there in a chair looking really ill, he was in his sparkly white suit with the big silver belt, and about to go to the big burger in the sky. He didn't look fat at all though, apart from the fact he was going to die, he looked alright. There was a doctor there who took me aside and said " personally I wouldn't give him more than thirty minutes, and it'll be a miracle if he makes it 'til morning, so you'd better hurry up and get his grave ready" Then as if by magic I was in a churchyard with a spade in my hand digging Elvis's grave , and I put up a nice tombstone and everything, but I can't remember what it said on it. The next thing I knew it was his funeral, and he was lying in the grave, no coffin or anyhthing, just there in his white suit with bits of earth falling on top of him, with people throwing red roses into the hole. I wished I had some red roses too, but all I had were some tacky plastic flowers, the sort you get in a greasy caff, so I just chucked those in on top of him. I think thats where it ended, or merged into something else. susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 19:39:15 1997 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 19:39:15 GMT Subject: Sinister: Manchester fandango In-Reply-To: <347969F6.6AC2@virgin.net> Message-ID: >What time are the gigs likely to finish? Am I going to have to spend >two nights sleeping on someone's floor (cheers Dan!), or can I get back >to Yorkshire on the Sunday night? If anyone wants train times, I've got a RailPlanner thingy on this here computer.... Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 17:47:26 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:47:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Potential External Virus Message-ID: <01bcf901$06f75fd0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Potential External Virus: > >I have received the following message from a contact outside our firm. >If you receive an e-mail titled "JOIN THE CREW" DO NOT open it! It will >erase EVERYTHING on your hard drive! Send this letter out to as many people >you >can.......this is a new virus and not many people know about it! This >information was received this morning from IBM, please share it with anyone >that might access the Internet. Also, If anyone receives mail entitled; >PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete it WITHOUT reading it!! This is a warning >for all Internet users - there is a dangerous virus propagating across the >Internet through an e-mail message entitled >"PENPAL GREETINGS!". This one's total toss. Don't worry about it. You're not going to get a virus by opening an email, running an executable attachment perhaps, but not viewing a file. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 24 20:22:36 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (***Rob B*** :)) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:22:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: This isn't goth (!) Message-ID: Just heard Seymour Stein on the Evening Session on Radio One. Great introduction from Steve Lurpak (over the first few bars of guitar, in his usual inimitable style): "This isn't goth either, this is Belle and Sebastian". Hmmmm... Nice to hear the unadulterated ending this time though; I had never noticed "this time" being spoken over the music to indicate the time to end the song. Mainly because Mr. Lamacq (sp?) was talking over it on my last recording of the song. Followed directly by Trembling Blue Stars as well, without so much of a whisper from the dreaded Pacamac... Love, Rob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gram at xxx.com Mon Nov 24 23:34:41 1997 From: gram at xxx.com (gram) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 17:34:41 -0600 Subject: Sinister: West & 54th Message-ID: <8625655A.00008145.00@Internet-504.interliant.com> maybe you guys have already peeped this, but judging from this, B&S won't be on any time before January... http://www.sessionsatwest54th.com/nov22/sessions.html g r a m ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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After a description for those of us on this side of > the pond (which makes it sound like a programme well worth watching and > not unlike Later with Jools Holland) it goes on: Having seen the show -- who woulda thought that those interviews had any involvement by DA Pennebaker!?! I have found them notably unimpressive, and have been thinking that Douridas was a complete loss as an interviewer. He asked MeChele N'dege Ochello if her name fits on her driver's license... it's usually "in-depth" questions like that so far as I've seen. This past Saturday we were treated to Fiona Apple going on about how she's not a snotty little bitch but just has no time to talk to people because they don't really really listen to her. (We stopped listening, after throwing things at the television. I just love interactive TV). Some guests don't do interviews -- Patti Smith didn't. The musical segments that I've seen are great though. The interviews are taped before the musical segment, without the audience, so I don't know how the B&S interview will be. I'm a little worried, because the band does indeed seem so shy -- I can't see Douridas getting much. But time will tell (hopefully soon -- it isn't on the schedule through December). Anyhow, the interviews ain't no "Don't Look Back." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Whispes at xxx.com Tue Nov 25 08:53:41 1997 From: Whispes at xxx.com (Whispes at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 03:53:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: indie pop record auction for a poor college kid (it's back up!) Message-ID: <971125035339_-555291927@mrin58.mail.aol.com> hi! for those of you who had looked at the web site for my auction, my account on aol was in a little trouble so to make a long story short, I lost all bids that were in and all the web pages that were on that account :( there's a new page up at http://members.aol.com/Whispes/Auction_Frame.htm and for those of you that hate frames go to http://members.aol.com/Whispes/Sale.htm and for those of you that don't know, i am putting on a big record auction to help me move for college. please look at the list at either of the above addresses and don't hesitate in bidding, i just didn't know how to price all of these records! thanks alot for your patience...and for those of you who bid, please please bid again! there's some good stuff from sarah, elefant, bus stop, harriet, slumberland, etc etc and some rare goodies too! thanks again! larry bonk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Tue Nov 25 09:43:19 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 09:43:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: This isn't goth (!) Message-ID: <8025655A.00356075.00@bull.co.uk> Sinister: This isn't goth (!) >***Rob B*** : (rewb2 at hermes.cam.ac.uk) >Mon, 24 Nov 1997 20:22:36 +0000 (GMT) >Just heard Seymour Stein on the Evening Session on Radio >One. Great introduction from Steve Lurpak (over the first >few bars of guitar, in his usual inimitable style): "This >isn't goth either, this is Belle and Sebastian". Hmmmm... grrrr. yes, he does this all the time. spends the first 3/4s of the program plugging the session, hyping it up and all and then goes and talks over the intro / outro. the bastard. actually, i recorded it from when they played it live into the show from maida vale(?) and he kept his trap shut on that occasion. >Followed directly by Trembling Blue Stars NOOO!!!! it wasn't was it? i turned the radio off directly after the b&s track having gotten really pissed off by the 90 minutes i'd already had to listen to... shit, i've been waiting to hear that for ages... andy a radio freak in a storm... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Tue Nov 25 12:23:13 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:23:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Seymour Stein chords... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Seymour Stein > ------------- > > D / Em7 / D / Em7 (introduction) > > D Em7 D > Seymour Stein > > Em7 D > I've been lonely > > Em7 A > Caught a glimpse of someone's face > > G D > It reminded me I'd been crying > > Em7 D > Half a world away > > Em7 D > Ticket for a plane > > Em7 A > Record company man > > G D > I won't be coming to dinner (?) > > Em7 D > My thoughts are far away > > Em7 D > And I'm working all the day > > Em7 A > North country girl > > I think she's going to > > Am Bm C Bm > promises of fame, promises of fortune > > Am Bm C Bm > LA to New York, San Francisco back to Boston > > C D > North of Scotland has he seen > > C D > Won't he hire a limousine > > C A > Seymour send her back to me > > > > --- D, Em7, D, Em7, D, Em7, A, G --- > > > D Em7 D > (???????????) - sorry, don't have a clue what he sings here! I heard dinner went wild > > Em7 D > You loved Chris's jacket > > Em7 A > He reminded you of Johnny > > G D > Before he got electronic > > Em7 D > Seymour Stein > > Em7 D > Sorry I missed you > > Em7 A > Have a nice flight home > > G D > It's a good day for flying > > Em7 D > Seymour stein x4 > > Em7, D..... ad infinitum > > ---------------------------------------- > > (Em7 is <022033> I think, as least that's how I play it) > > > I hope I got most of the lyrics right. > > > Love to all, > Rob xxx > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com Tue Nov 25 13:52:15 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com (Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:52:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Last night's ink polaroid Message-ID: <199711250852_MC2-2988-250D@compuserve.com> A street-lit rush hour scene. Probably taken from the upstairs window of one the the seedy shops and take outs that line the the top end of Mare St. Your eyes are drawn to the double-decker bus on the far side of the road. Although the traffic lights ahead are green, it's clear that the bus is stationary. You can tell this partly because it's so closely bunched behind the car in front, and partly because it's in such sharp focus compared with the vehicles further on. It looks like it's going to miss the lights too because there's a car emerging from a side road about thirty yards on which will hold things up. Because of the vantage point from which the shot was taken, and because it's evening, you can see the scene inside the bus quite clearly, especially the top deck. It's quite empty. There are five kids at the back, one of them standing up, hanging on to a rail and leaning over the others, looking up at the roof with his mouth open. Looks like they might be quite rowdy. At the very front, sitting right above the driver, there's a boy in a suit. If the polaroid had been taken a few seconds earlier you might have seen the boy biting his lips and looking anxiously at his watch, or straining his neck to catch the cause of the delay. But that was before he spotted a shopfront just about visble in the top right of the picture. That's why he's got a broad grin on his face instead. The sign reads "B&S Support Services". It proved to be a good omen, because I got home in time for the radio session after all. I'll try not to cut it so fine tonight. Nick Dastoor nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com Tue Nov 25 13:52:15 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com (Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:52:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Last night's ink polaroid Message-ID: <199711250852_MC2-2988-5598@compuserve.com> A street-lit rush hour scene. Probably taken from the upstairs window of one the the seedy shops and take outs that line the the top end of Mare St. Your eyes are drawn to the double-decker bus on the far side of the road. Although the traffic lights ahead are green, it's clear that the bus is stationary. You can tell this partly because it's so closely bunched behind the car in front, and partly because it's in such sharp focus compared with the vehicles further on. It looks like it's going to miss the lights too because there's a car emerging from a side road about thirty yards on which will hold things up. Because of the vantage point from which the shot was taken, and because it's evening, you can see the scene inside the bus quite clearly, especially the top deck. It's quite empty. There are five kids at the back, one of them standing up, hanging on to a rail and leaning over the others, looking up at the roof with his mouth open. Looks like they might be quite rowdy. At the very front, sitting right above the driver, there's a boy in a suit. If the polaroid had been taken a few seconds earlier you might have seen the boy biting his lips and looking anxiously at his watch, or straining his neck to catch the cause of the delay. But that was before he spotted a shopfront just about visble in the top right of the picture. That's why he's got a broad grin on his face instead. The sign reads "B&S Support Services". It proved to be a good omen, because I got home in time for the radio session after all. I'll try not to cut it so fine tonight. Nick Dastoor nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com Tue Nov 25 13:52:15 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com (Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:52:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Last night's ink polaroid Message-ID: <199711250852_MC2-2836-F868@compuserve.com> A street-lit rush hour scene. Probably taken from the upstairs window of one the the seedy shops and take outs that line the the top end of Mare St. Your eyes are drawn to the double-decker bus on the far side of the road. Although the traffic lights ahead are green, it's clear that the bus is stationary. You can tell this partly because it's so closely bunched behind the car in front, and partly because it's in such sharp focus compared with the vehicles further on. It looks like it's going to miss the lights too because there's a car emerging from a side road about thirty yards on which will hold things up. Because of the vantage point from which the shot was taken, and because it's evening, you can see the scene inside the bus quite clearly, especially the top deck. It's quite empty. There are five kids at the back, one of them standing up, hanging on to a rail and leaning over the others, looking up at the roof with his mouth open. Looks like they might be quite rowdy. At the very front, sitting right above the driver, there's a boy in a suit. If the polaroid had been taken a few seconds earlier you might have seen the boy biting his lips and looking anxiously at his watch, or straining his neck to catch the cause of the delay. But that was before he spotted a shopfront just about visble in the top right of the picture. That's why he's got a broad grin on his face instead. The sign reads "B&S Support Services". It proved to be a good omen, because I got home in time for the radio session after all. I'll try not to cut it so fine tonight. Nick Dastoor nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com Tue Nov 25 13:52:15 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com (Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 08:52:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Last night's ink polaroid Message-ID: <199711250852_MC2-2837-27AE@compuserve.com> A street-lit rush hour scene. Probably taken from the upstairs window of one the the seedy shops and take outs that line the the top end of Mare St. Your eyes are drawn to the double-decker bus on the far side of the road. Although the traffic lights ahead are green, it's clear that the bus is stationary. You can tell this partly because it's so closely bunched behind the car in front, and partly because it's in such sharp focus compared with the vehicles further on. It looks like it's going to miss the lights too because there's a car emerging from a side road about thirty yards on which will hold things up. Because of the vantage point from which the shot was taken, and because it's evening, you can see the scene inside the bus quite clearly, especially the top deck. It's quite empty. There are five kids at the back, one of them standing up, hanging on to a rail and leaning over the others, looking up at the roof with his mouth open. Looks like they might be quite rowdy. At the very front, sitting right above the driver, there's a boy in a suit. If the polaroid had been taken a few seconds earlier you might have seen the boy biting his lips and looking anxiously at his watch, or straining his neck to catch the cause of the delay. But that was before he spotted a shopfront just about visble in the top right of the picture. That's why he's got a broad grin on his face instead. The sign reads "B&S Support Services". It proved to be a good omen, because I got home in time for the radio session after all. I'll try not to cut it so fine tonight. Nick Dastoor nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Tue Nov 25 14:57:15 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 14:57:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Seymour Stein Message-ID: <01BCF9B2.6C0E4260@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> I was going to say this when the song was originally broadcast, but forgot, so now that we're discussing the song again... Stevie's voice (on Seymour Stein) sounds so much to me like Doug Yule, from The Velvet Underground. It's uncanny. They both have such sweet voices. Mind you, it was said of Doug Yule that he never really understood what he was singing about - the subtleties of Lou Reed's lyrics going right over his head. Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Tue Nov 25 15:53:58 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:53:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Travel arrangements Message-ID: Hello all, I'm going to the Sunday Manchester gig- travelling all the way from London- does anyone know how much i'll have to fork out to get there by train or by coach? As a poor student i really need to save money wherever i can... JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 25 17:02:42 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:02:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: where ru? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: this is a quiet list today. if people don't start writing in soon, i might actually have to start doing homework instead of messing around with this computer. anyone...anyone? laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9502673j at xxx.uk Tue Nov 25 18:30:10 1997 From: 9502673j at xxx.uk (Iain W Jones) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 18:30:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sfa and b&s and cheese on toast on sat. References: <34785C55.844E149B@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <347B1932.4BE3@udcf.gla.ac.uk> David & Katrina wrote: > > Sarah wrote: > > > Hi people! > > > > Just thought I might mention that B&S are a new hot topic on the Super > > Furries list!!! And they've got a lot of fans there! A sfa/b&s thing > > going on? Well, B&S have got the analogue synths on Electronic > > Renaissance there! Does anyone (Katrina?) know who the Pet Shop Boys fan > > is in B&S because ER is very reminiscent! > > well, stuart murdoch wrote it, so if your link is correct then it's him! The story I heard about Electronic Renaissance was that it was a throwaway song, Stuart M proving (to Chris?) that it was dead easy to write dancy stuff. Luv Iain, Glasgow ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Wed Nov 26 00:31:23 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 97 16:31:23 PST Subject: Sinister: thanks Message-ID: hello all. i just wanted to keep you all updated on my go-betweens/orange juice query from a couple weeks ago cause i know all you're doing is sitting in front of your computer going "dammit. when's he gonna write in again?" well, after the replies i got from some of you (thanks), i went out and got "before hollywood" by the go-betweens. i liked it a lot. reminded me of talking heads circa "more songs about buildings and food", which i then put on the old cd player, and given stuarts fascination with homosexuality, i think they should cover "the girls want to be with the girls". but that's another story. since then i have purchased "liberty belle...." " spring hill fair" and "send me a lullaby".....all of which i fully enjoy. thanks to everyone for the recommendations. i'm still in search for the other two. before i had written in before i had purchased "the esteemed orange juice : the very best of" because i just happened to run across it in a store in tallahassee. all i knew about them was it had that "never met a girl like you before" guy in it and they had been talked about quite a bit in the same musical circles i frequent. and i didn't like all of it. i liked the "earlier janglier stuff" as i think i put it. well, after your recommendations i ended up having to order "ostrich churchyard" from cdnow. it came in yesterday. i like it a lot. some of the stuff towards the end of that best of album starts sounding a bit polished and synthy. but i like everything on "ostrich churchyard". no belle and sebastian material i'm afraid. i just wanted to thank whoever responded to me. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9705251m at xxx.uk Tue Nov 25 19:39:54 1997 From: 9705251m at xxx.uk (Eoghan Mullan) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 19:39:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: <2D536062861@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> I can bear it no longer, I've been signed up to the list for less than a week and now must beg on my knees for someone, anyone to copy Tigermilk for me. Please, if anyone in Glasgow University or anyone even in the west end has a copy, get in touch. Eoghan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From scc644 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 25 20:12:32 1997 From: scc644 at xxx.uk (Soozy) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 20:12:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: to all those in Glasgow.... Message-ID: Just a quick warning to all of you... There's going to be an enormous rag raid (ie collection) for the Royal National Institute For The Blind there this coming Saturday. So anyone wandering the city centre is liable to get pounced on and asked for any spare change they might have. On the bright side, you do get an attractive sticker! I only mention it as I'll be coming up with a few friends from Birmingham uni to join in, so if you see anyone dressed as an angel (all in silver, golden wings, tinsel halo) then come and say hi! Oh, and I'll probably be getting pissed with all the other raggies on Saturday evening so look out for me wherever the cheapest alcohol is to be found. Soozy xox (not insane really...honest...) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Sun Nov 23 20:38:07 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 21:38:07 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sfa and b&s and cheese on toast on sat. References: Message-ID: <3478942F.FB6CC004@colon.net.> Sarah wrote: > Hi people! > > Just thought I might mention that B&S are a new hot topic > on the Super > Furries list!!! And they've got a lot of fans there! A > sfa/b&s thing > going on? Well, B&S have got the analogue synths on > Electronic > Renaissance there! Does anyone (Katrina?) know who the Pet > Shop Boys fan > is in B&S because ER is very reminiscent! > I'm glad you said that. I've thought there was a strong Petties influence all the way through B&S, not just ER. Lyrics, not music. The music's quite different really. I quite like the Pet Shop Boys and I'm partial to the occasional snifter of Super Furries. The majesty of Prog - or should that be P!R!O!G! Peter Glad to see the messages are no longer multiplied by the square root of infinity cubed. It was quite unnerving for a while. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Mon Nov 24 22:53:28 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 23:53:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I do do drugs, all my friends do too References: <01bcf8bf$3b6d6bc0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <347A0567.B0B753DB@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > but I've done you a tape - yourself and Peter's tape > should be in the post > this week, major apologies for the timing on this front as > I say it's been > release time for us and it's hectic. Listening to the song > that St.Etienne > played a few years ago brought back vivid memories which > was good. I > suppose I should have told Bob that as a matter of > politeness - although I > suppose also it may've seemed rude given that it's not > their song! > Does anyone know what Keith's on about? Release time? Release time for what? Keith - are you a keen racing pigeon enthusiast; attempting to repopulate the Pyrenees with bears; involved in a plot to "spring" loads of prisoners; an animal rights activist or...in a...dare I say it?...pop group? Go on, you can tell us. I showed my Dad my Belle and Sebastian t-shirt and he raised his eyebrows enthusiastically. Tomorrow I will carry out more fiendish pop experiments, using my hapless family as guinea pigs. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevinsco at xxx.CA Tue Nov 25 20:39:08 1997 From: kevinsco at xxx.CA (K. R. Scofield) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 12:39:08 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: tigermilk Message-ID: I'm assuming that almost everyday there are new people joining this list. I myself joined not too long ago. Tell me if this is a good idea: perhaps someone/some people would like to post to the list that they're willing to tape Tigermilk for those who don't have it yet. Lot's of new people are asking for it, and it seems this would be a good way to make it work. Is this a good idea? I myself still don't have a copy, and was refraining from asking on the list for someone to tape it, because I figured people were sick of people asking for it. I don't know....... Kevin Victoria, BC, Canada -------------------------------- STEREO-TYPE RECORDS -------------------------------- Ensign "Take Care" (cass) $3 Various Victoria Artists "Surrender To The Garden City" (cass + booklet) $5 Dead Stars "Cancer Moon" (cass) $4 Snailhouse/Julie Doiron (7") Coming Soon Run Chico Run (7") Coming Soon -------------------------------- -------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Pam_Berry at xxx.com Tue Nov 25 22:01:00 1997 From: Pam_Berry at xxx.com (Pam Berry) Date: 25 Nov 97 17:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk taping Message-ID: <199711252154.VAA28171@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> On Mon, 24 Nov 1997 Nick_Dastoor.BSHO at NOTES.compuserve.com wrote: > > OK here's my 'corrected' version. > > Some changes from Rob's: > > * Pam turns into Karen (or Wee Karen). damn. but having your name misheard in a song is almost as good as it being there I guess. maybe I mentioned it before, can't recall, but my next door neighbor misheard her own name in first line to stars of track and field as "megan you called every day". I hated to be the one to break it to her. anyway, I offered some time back and I'll mention it again for the newcomers: if you're nearish to the u.s. and need a tape copy of tigermilk, get in touch privately. I'll do overseas ones if you're desperate (as I was mere months ago), but I'll bet there are still non-u.s. people who are up for it and you'll save on postage. cheers, pam pberry at washcp.com work plb at tiac.net home ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Nov 25 23:09:11 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 00:09:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I do do drugs, all my friends do too References: <01bcf8bf$3b6d6bc0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> <347A0567.B0B753DB@colon.net.> Message-ID: <347B5A97.60E8F039@colon.net.> Peter Miller and/or Arantxa Ubieta wrote: > > > I showed my Dad my Belle and Sebastian t-shirt and he > raised > his eyebrows enthusiastically. Tomorrow I will carry out > more fiendish pop experiments, using my hapless family as > guinea pigs. > > Peter > I showed my Mum the same Belle and Sebastian t-shirt and she said "ooh! That's nice!" I think she meant it. Tomorrow is my last chance to experiment with them, bbecause they're going home. I won't be particularly sorry to see the back of my brother because we don't get on very well. We're like chalky cheese. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Tue Nov 25 16:24:34 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Tue, 25 Nov 1997 16:24:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: lou reed Message-ID: <8025655B.000B0183.00@bull.co.uk> >the subtleties of Lou Reed's >lyrics going right over his head. >Nigel speaking of which is anyone else finding the surfeit of 'perfect day' a bit strange? i mean, bbc1 are using the new version to urge people to pay their television licenses and channel 4 are using the (much better) original in order to publicise the fact that they're showing 'trainspotting' sometime this week... um, b&s content, er... looking forward to manchester (will that do?) oh, and it's 'i heard dinner went well' not 'wild'. andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From anorak at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 01:27:53 1997 From: anorak at xxx.uk (Anorak) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 01:27:53 GMT Subject: Sinister: Travel arrangements In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 25 Nov 1997 15:53:58 +0000 (GMT), JaMeS said: << I'm going to the Sunday Manchester gig- travelling all the way from London- does anyone know how much i'll have to fork out to get there by train or by coach? As a poor student i really need to save money wherever i can... >> I can't believe I'm breaking cover with this but.... Best value London-Manchester return on Virgin West Coast (ie. Euston) is the Virgin Value Return. Valid any day (except public holidays), outward travel on booked date, return within one month. Must book seat reservations, and make booking before 1800hrs on the day before outward travel. Return price is �19.00. No Railcard discounts. HTH ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 08:09:16 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:09:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: London meet - pop quiz Message-ID: <347BD92C.1B67883D@totalweb.co.uk> Back on the theme of the proposed London meet, my friends are organising a pop quiz for Thursday night (tomorrow). So why not use this as a London meet? The details: Pop quiz at the John Snow pub on Broadwick Street (This is the large road on the left when you're walking from Sister Ray (Berwick St) to Selectadisc (further up Berwick St), the pub is abou 50m down on the left hand side). Doors open at 8pm with a £3 entry fee that makes up the prize pot - top prize £50 with hundreds of small prizes. Records to be given away (including loads of promos such as some Saint Etienne records and some SFA - sorry, no B&S!). Cheap (for central London) drinks, a good pint of beer is £1.48, with lager at £1.70 and very reasonable spirits and mixers. Will also have a sound system there, and if Simon remembers to bring it the background music should consist of Tigermilk for some part of the night. Anyway, hope to see a few of you there, will be cool to finally match some user names to faces :) David & Katrina Belle and Sebastian Fan Club -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Hintzm at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 08:47:18 1997 From: Hintzm at xxx.uk (Matthew P Hintz) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 08:47:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: Miss Hard Lyrics In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I had a suspicion last week that none of my email was being sent out. All the fears came true when I sent this to the list, but never recieved a copy back. Without email I would have to talk to people and do other such human things! So about three weeks late for the thread, which is actually on schedule for me--misheard lyrics. In "Fox In the Snow" for about three months I thought Stuart sang "when your lips are black and blue it's time to take a holiday" followed by that lovely acoustic guitar solo. Imagine my dismay when I read the lyrics and discovered that the word is "legs", not "lips". Sure it does make more sense in the context of the bicycle, but aren't lips bruised, physically or emotionally, a more beautiful image? Cheers Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Wed Nov 26 09:39:40 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 09:39:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re: lou reed (NB&SC) Message-ID: <01BCFA4F.389FFA20@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> >speaking of which is anyone else finding the surfeit of 'perfect day' a bit strange? i mean, bbc1 are using the new version to urge people to pay their television licenses and channel 4 are using the (much better) original in order to publicise the fact that they're showing 'trainspotting' sometime this week... I wonder if the BBC realize that 'Perfect Day' is all about taking heroin? Danny Boyle presumably did. Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 10:08:58 1997 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:08:58 GMT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk offer...in a bit. Message-ID: <199711261008.KAA13655@brookes.ac.uk> For all those desperate for a copy of Tigermilk, I'll do a copy for people in the UK, but you'll just have to wait a week, as I'm moving house, and so this is just to say I'll re-post this offer next week or the week after. This note-ette is to let you know someone will do the honours for you, just hang on for a bit longer.....Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 10:09:52 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:09:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I do do drugs, all my friends do too Message-ID: <01bcfa53$6f9fe270$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Does anyone know what Keith's on about? Release time? >Release time for what? Keith - are you a keen racing pigeon >enthusiast; attempting to repopulate the Pyrenees with >bears; involved in a plot to "spring" loads of prisoners; an >animal rights activist or...in a...dare I say it?...pop >group? Go on, you can tell us. > >I showed my Dad my Belle and Sebastian t-shirt and he raised >his eyebrows enthusiastically. Tomorrow I will carry out >more fiendish pop experiments, using my hapless family as >guinea pigs. > >Peter Haha - whoops sorry Peter, release time for the piece of Software we make. I'd release my pigeons too if I had any. "Fly free my feathered friends... Fly... Fly". Pop group no, no, fraid not, mind you I'll be playing on a remix of the new Finitribe single which should be quite good fun. My mum and dad both liked Belle and Sebastian too. I'm buying a computer this week too so I'll get a fantastic new email account at home. At that point too Peter, fancy a bit of Internet Relay Chat, indeed we could designate a quiet chat room and the Belle and Sebastian list could have a "Virtual Robo-Cyber meeting" - let me know if anyone fanices that. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 10:26:55 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:26:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tonight, Matthew, I will be Chris Geddes.... Message-ID: <199711261030.KAA26374@orange.easynet.co.uk> Oh dear, I've just read the lyrics someone typed up to 'Seymour Stein' and I am crushed. One of my most dearly-held delusions was that the line after 'North of Scotland has these things' was 'but only Harold and Maude see', thus extending the B&S frame of reference to include a classic film of morbid adolescence. It turns out its something about a limousine.... I was talking to my musician friend Simon the other day. Turns out that he's decided to play in a Smiths tribute band ('The Smythes'!) because, and I quote, 'you can't make money playing your own songs anymore'. This got me thinking. Considering all the posts from people who've seen bands playing B&S material, how long can it be before the group have their very own tribute band? It'd be great! Stuart could send them out to do all the nasty promo work (talking to the NME, going on Later with Jools) the band can't be bothered with. And they'd be able to play at times when the real band are tied up with church bazaars, roller discos, exams etc. But what would they be called? 'The Cock Fun Mob' is a cracking suggestion, but I'm sure Peter already has it copyrighted... The Dogs on Wheels? The Lazy Line Painters? Mad Murdoch and his Middle-Distance Runners? I'll shut up now. Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Nov 26 10:42:43 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:42:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: london list meet Message-ID: <8025655B.003AB0C9.00@bull.co.uk> d&k: >Back on the theme of the proposed London meet, my friends >are organising a pop quiz for Thursday night (tomorrow). So >why not use this as a London meet? bad idea i think - we'll all be at home with fingers poised over pause buttons to tape that night's session track... i prefer stephen's idea, a coffee place rather than a noisy, smelly, smokey pub (i don't drink but then i don't drink coffee either...). and the pop quiz strikes me as a distraction... sorry. oh, and pam (and ben), don't you think you've done enough tigermilk tapes for people? isn't it time for those people you did tapes for to offer to do tapes for the new people, division of labour and all that? and steve lamacq continues to get on my tits with last night's showing... andy(grizzly)bear ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Wed Nov 26 12:31:50 1997 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 06:31:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: here's my offer In-Reply-To: <8025655B.003AB0C9.00@bull.co.uk> Message-ID: >oh, and pam (and ben), don't you think you've done enough >tigermilk tapes for people? isn't it time for those people >you did tapes for to offer to do tapes for the new people, >division of labour and all that? okay, I'll bite, considering that it is thanks to Pam and Ben combined that I have my copies of T-milk and the collected sessions. My offer of taping is open to any of you lucky listees in the States like myself. Interested? Email me privately and we'll work out the details. And O, woe is me, how I wish I were going to the Manchester gigs...but alas, I shall be frolicking in Disney World with my parents and sister whilst you are cavorting to the live tunes of B&S...sigh... would anyone be willing to pick me up one of the "Judy and the Dream of Horses" mugs? We could arrange some sort of trade. and about the IRC stuff: if I can figure out how to do it on my computer, count me in for a chat! This would be as good a time as any to learn, right? and what am I doing up at 6:15 on a breezy Wednesday morning in Chicago? My roommate decided at the last minute to try to catch an earlier flight home (more like ungodly than earlier) for Thanksgiving so she was up at 5AM calling the airport and working out the details. And I couldn't sleep. So here I am. So pardon any incoherent rambling. Such as this. "I need to sleep, why won't you let me?" Thanks, Pavement. Well then, good day/good night/good tidings and good cheer to all... ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "You made me forget my dreams, when I woke up to you sleeping." --Belle and Sebastian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Nov 26 12:35:42 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:35:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: sinister: mamas and papas, sisters and brothers-in-law Message-ID: <347e0daf.3278532@email.mcmail.com> hello everybody (hello doctor Nick), Senor Miller mentioned showing off his Sebs (as I shall insist on calling them from now on, it's more RAWK) T-shirt to his ma + pa. Keeping the family theme alive, my father asked me last week 'who's this Belle and Sebastian then? What have they done that I know?'. Apparently my sister had been discussing the possibility of going to the Manchester gigs (her and her husband are particularly fond of 'Stars of Track and Field', he's a keen athelete and is convinced the song is about him - I do wonder if he's listened to the lyrics), and this had aroused my father's curiosity. It's always difficult to answer questions like this from my parents. 'They're a pop group....err...they're great...my favourite group...err, they're from Glasgow, like you (remind me never to go into advertising)'. Then I played 'IYFS'. The response...'Could you just turn it down a wee bit, please, it's quite good, but awful noisy'. Well, I tried. Can anyone confirm that Channel 4 text are giving double points to any vote for the Sebs in their single of the year poll? Them and All Saints, apparently. Oh one other thing.... On Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:42:43 +0000, Andrew Dean wrote: >and steve lamacq continues to get on my tits with last >night's showing... What???? Our Steve, the nation's favourite Indie Guru, with his 'trusty DM's' his chirpy 'see you down the front at the next Embrace gig', and his hard-hitting weekly column in Melody Maker (the highlight of this boy's Wednesdays). We have a picture of him on our wall. He's the cutting edge, yet somehow 'down with the kids' as well. Anyone who heard the Sebs' session last time around will know that no-one in the world can say 'whooping' quite like Steve Lamacq. Andrew, you're right. He is Satan. Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Wed Nov 26 13:34:24 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 26 Nov 97 13:34:24 Subject: Sinister: Falling over Seymour Stein Message-ID: <9711261301.AA0844@notesgw.compuserve.com> I'm sure that this has been mentiioned on the list before I joined the fun, but others may be interested to read about the events that (I assume) were the inspiration for Belle & Sebastian's fantastic paean to the Sire records supremo. The report is from the Glasgow Herald of 6/12/96. CONSIDERING that they're two regular blokes from Falkirk, Arab Strap have quickly made a lasting impression on the hipper epicentres of the music industry. Or more accurately they've made a series of lasting impressions, some of them physical. For instance, after the duo's first public performance in August, supporting Belle And Sebastian in Glasgow, Aidan Moffat left the stage in a drunken stupor and fell heavily over Seymour Stein, the recordbiz legend who discovered Talking Heads, Blondie, Madonna, and the Ramones. Stein was sitting on the venue's floor, having jetted in from New York to see the show's headliners. Despite his Strap-inflicted contusions, however, Stein remained sufficiently impressed to press his phone number upon them. Nick Dastoor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ab0u600b at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 13:26:59 1997 From: ab0u600b at xxx.uk (Dawn) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 13:26:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Lyrics Message-ID: <1.5.4.16.19971126132659.30572246@pop1.liv.ac.uk> I can't understand all these confessions about misunderstanding lyrics... Doesn't everyone pick up the lyrics from the moment they put the CD on, and sing lustily along, or is it just me? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 14:08:46 1997 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:08:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: lou reed Message-ID: <347C2D6E.41DBA1D7@easynet.co.uk> Andrew.Dean at BULL.NET wrote: > speaking of which is anyone else finding the surfeit of > 'perfect day' a bit strange? i mean, bbc1 are using the new > version to urge people to pay their television licenses and > channel 4 are using the (much better) original in order to > publicise the fact that they're showing 'trainspotting' > sometime this week... > 'Much better' - hmmmm. Lou didn't have the foresight to use our Gabrielle in the original, did he, eh ? And before anyone writes in the belief that they've spotted a flaw in this line of argument, well there isn't one. I stood next to la Reed after the White Show performance a couple of years ago. He's old, y'know ? I was going to invite him back to my house for a spliff, but he was with Dave Stewart. And I don't 'do' drugs. Monica Queen sounds very much like Maria McKee to these ears. I like her eponymous album, so I'll mark that down as a GOOD thing. Talking of George Jones, his 'Anniversary' CD is having it fifteenth 63 minutes and 6 seconds of fame on my CD player this week. Album of the year - Negativland's 'Tribute to the muscular Pere Ubu' yerluvinuncleTurt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eculb at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 14:12:07 1997 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 14:12:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: More Questions Message-ID: Hello everyone, More lovely questions: 1) Can anyone expand on the details surrounding the Radio Scotland session? 2) When will details be available about times etc concerning the Manchester gigs? - i leave uni for the term and hence e-mail on the 6th Dec and so anytime after i wont be able to get any info... JaMeS ^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^ James :) ****************************************** *Mail me! at: eculb at csv.warwick.ac.uk * * * *Phone me! at: 01203 422773 or Ext 22926* ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Wed Nov 26 15:04:57 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:04:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: lou reed (NB&SC) Message-ID: <01BCFA7C.D6533FC0@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> > speaking of which is anyone else finding the surfeit of > 'perfect day' a bit strange? i mean, bbc1 are using the new > version to urge people to pay their television licenses and > channel 4 are using the (much better) original in order to > publicise the fact that they're showing 'trainspotting' > sometime this week... > >'Much better' - hmmmm. Infinitely better, I'd say. That BBC version is a pile of old poo, and the original is a bona fide classic in my book. I remember listening to it many years ago on my personal stereo in Princess Street Gardens, Edinburgh, about 7 o'clock one sunny morning, having just arrived off the overnight coach from London, and thinking, "isn't life beautiful". And I've never even tried heroin. Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 15:18:54 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:18:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Who do they support competition? Message-ID: So who do B&S support, as in football, as in the competition on Katrina and David's fan club site? Well I don't know, perhaps I should but I don't. But I think that they might support Partick Thistle. Somehow the two seem to be connected in unconnected sort of way. So stab in the dark, longshot etc., but if the answer is Partick Thistle, what is the chances of B&S supporting the Save the Jags campaign since this wee team is about to go under? So I've admitted it. I'm a Thistle fan (not a football fan mind, a Thistle fan). I've come out. That was almost as hard as admitting to Mary, my ex and best friend, that I've slept with her boyfriend. (He's a polygamist, so it was alright.) Enough spraffle from me for now. lol chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From DOUDIE at xxx.com Wed Nov 26 15:28:06 1997 From: DOUDIE at xxx.com (DOUDIE at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 10:28:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: The Capeman Message-ID: <971126102806_1038065856@mrin85.mail.aol.com> I thought I would post a more in depth review I wrote of this record now that Mark brought it up as I agree that it is a very significant release in the year of music that is 1997: I find it astounding that an artist in their mid to late fifties can continue to forge a career that is relevant AND productive of great work. Take a look at Paul Simon's peers: Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, James Taylor, Van Morrison, Roger McGuinn, etc. I don't think anyone can argue that those artists are putting out work of a quality on par with their 60's work. Part of this is due simply to singing voice, Bob Dylan and Joni Mitchell, for example, simply can't sing like they used to. Anyway, I don't want to go on and on with these comparisons, but upon hearing Capeman and realizing the tremendous amount of work that went into the realization of this music, it just makes me wonder why age decimates the careers of some geniuses and pushes others onto new levels of greatness. Part of that feeling comes simply from the sound of this CD. While you can tell at first listen that this record was recorded in the 90's, it isn't tied to its time period the way classic records aren't. One of the wonderful things about music is that it can exist outside of time, and one of the marks of a great record is its ability to do so. For example, the doo wop doesn't sound like "90's doo wop" it sounds legitimate and real, even though doo wop is not a common musical idiom anymore. It is difficult for me to listen to any record without focusing in on the vocals and they sound excellent on SFTC, not only in performance but in how they were recorded. Want proof? Play Graceland, Rhythm of the Saints and SFTC back to back. Throughout the record, you hear that familiar voice a voice that I bet all of you couldn't recall a time in your life when you hadn't heard it, and you hear it in a crystal clear fashion, thus really making this feel like a worthy addition to an already prolific career. The music is nothing to balk at either: from the ecstatic celebration at the close of "Born in Puerto Rico", to the sinister piano that kicks off Vampires, to the Rhythm of the Saints-ish guitar that drives "Trailways Bus"... these are just great sounding moments, highlights from a great record. I guess the engineer deserves some credit for this but anyway, I would be curious to hear some other opinions about the sound of the record. The more I listen to SFTC, the more it begins to feel like an album instead of a mere snippet from a larger project. I grew more accustomed to "Satin Summer Nights", "Sunday Afternoon" and "Time is an Ocean", the three songs that scream out Broadway to me. "Born in Puerto Rico", "Adios Hermanos", "Vampires", "Trailways Bus" are classics in the canon of someone who may have already the market cornered on classic songs. The songs all establish a connection to Salvador Agron, without glorfying him for committing murder, which I think was ultimately a tightrope struggle in forging his story. As well as musical, there are some incredibly moving lyrical moments on this record (leaving me a bit surprised upon reading some murmurings that these lyrics are somehow less poignant than Simon's previous work). The "No one knows you like I do, No one knows your heart like I do" lyric in "Born in Puerto Rico" backed up with that heart wrenching flute, the beautifully sung "If I traveled the whole world, You guys would still be on my case" lyric in "Trailways Bus", and the "I think you'd have to be Jesus on the cross, to open your heart after such a loss" in "Can I Forgive Him?". These are just a few examples of lyrical beauty. Okay enough raving... Is this a perfect record? No. I don't think that was its intent. It is so diverse and ranging in its scope and discontinuous in its performances (meaning not having the same singer on each track, etc.) that I have a hard time imagining a listener loving every song all the way through. Nonetheless, I don't think that was its aim and there certainly isn't anything difficult to listen to on it. I don't really understand the inclusion of Virgil, the country-ish song narrated by a prison guard, but maybe his character is more essential to the plot than I realize. Anyway, I hope I haven't rambled on too long, I hope to hear more and more opinions as people grow more familiar with this record (and yes I have repeatedly used the term record because referring to a work of music as a CD will never seem right to me). steve matrick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 15:41:50 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:41:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Who do they support competition? Message-ID: <01bcfa81$cfdb6b40$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >So I've admitted it. I'm a Thistle fan (not a football fan mind, a >Thistle fan). I've come out. That was almost as hard as admitting to >Mary, my ex and best friend, that I've slept with her boyfriend. >(He's a polygamist, so it was alright.) I'm a Thistle fan too - well not much of one, but one nonetheless, last time I saw them they played Motherwell in 1979. Was born in the Queen Mothers. Oh Chris is a Celtic fan. Save the Jags. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 15:56:08 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:56:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Who do they support competition? In-Reply-To: <01bcfa81$cfdb6b40$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: > I'm a Thistle fan too - well not much of one, but one nonetheless, last time > I saw them they played Motherwell in 1979. Was born in the Queen Mothers. Haven't been to a game in ages, what with living on the wrong side of the country (poor excuse.) I was suprised at how much the news of the possible fold shocked me. They must be there deep-down in my psyche. But there is something about them which seems to strike a chord with B&S. Something about fatalism and hope, the beauty of failure, Pies'n'Bovril De La Bourgeoisie. But perhaps that's just a construction which I'm making up off the top of my head. chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Wed Nov 26 16:06:55 1997 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:06:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Beatnik Message-ID: <01BCFA5B.6A034B60@n168.natureny.com> Hello all. A while back, some were posting about a book called Beatnik, or something to that effect. I have looked for it everywhere here in NYC, but have had no success. Would someone be kind enough to post more details about it so that I may be better armed in my queries to those bookstore types? That would be greatly appreciated! Happy Thanksgiving to the US Kids, Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mct101 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 16:28:52 1997 From: mct101 at xxx.uk (michael) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 16:28:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: do my work for me In-Reply-To: <971126102806_1038065856@mrin85.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: I'm writing a piece on Belle and Sebastian for My University arts Mag (the esteemed Point Shirley), and I'd like brief quotes from people saying why B&S are brill, and how important they are. Well, any old shit really. much obliged, michael ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "My brother had confessed That he was gay it took the heat Off me for a while... " "The State That I Am In", Belle and Sebastian ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael Terwey can be contacted at: 1a Anne Street James College 57 Fortharfield Clementhorpe University of York Freuchie York Heslington Cupar Y02 1JW York Fife (01904) 613 423 Y01 5DD KY15 7JJ (01337) 857 499 before bedtime... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 15:09:16 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 15:09:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Glasgow on a Sunday: no B&S content really Message-ID: <199711261629.QAA12182@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Sorry if the lack of Belle and Sebastian content in this mail offends anyone, but you seemed like the right people to ask. I *might* have to spend the night in Glasgow on Sunday, so two things: (i) what's on on a Sunday night which is intersting to do (and preferably involves alcoholic intake of some sort) (ii) anyone know of any reasonably places to stay or suchlike? cheers Tim begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(A`0`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0 at 36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02``0`K````1VQA3H@;F\@0B93(&-O;G1E;G0@@@ M`J0#XPD"`&-H"L!S970POB`'$P*#`%`#U1%E?0J`:0C((#L);S`"@`J!=2YC M`%`+`PM@;@X0,#/>,PNG"K$*A!71:0\Q#,%'`<$&``6P0(@92P at 8G4%0.D<\'4@$1!E!X`:0!>P3FL9(!D" M!1!G:`5`<"QE;PM0'G%O&A!S:X8N"N,*@$D@*FT>XM0J(!#@=A^#Y$.!T)P0@(U$C46$C=?!H&,`$(`N`&S"O$0`:L!80'Y)D M'[`H&B)6`GTF$>81F1)``' M@"/Q'0`@*23V)6$P&4:D`(@*:-]"U%C!Y$A<@&0&+`% ML7/U%6!H'D(_%O@*@!#0">"_$0`6]`=A"-``02E`;QLP7&-T$>(7`Q,!`#/@ M```>`#%``0````\```!!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0```P`:0``````>`#!``0`` M``\```!!1$%41TA$,#8Y,S1&-0```P`90``````#`#8```````L`!H`((`8` M`````,````````!&``````.%`````````P`(@`@@!@``````P````````$8` M````4H4``+<-```>``F`""`&``````#`````````1@````!4A0```0````0` M```X+C```P`*@`@@!@``````P````````$8``````84````````+``N`""`& M``````#`````````1@`````.A0````````,`!X`((`8``````,````````!& M`````!"%`````````P`,@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````$84````````# M``V`""`&``````#`````````1@`````8A0```````!X`#H`((`8``````,`` M``````!&`````#:%```!`````0`````````>``^`""`&``````#````````` M1@`````WA0```0````$`````````'@`0@`@@!@``````P````````$8````` M.(4```$````!``````````,`)@```````P"`$/____\"`?D_`0```'0````` M````W*=`R,!"$!JTN0@`*R_A@@$````&````+T\]3$%.0T%35$52(%5.259% M4E-)5%DO3U4]35--04E,+T-./5)%0TE0245.5%,O0TX]35, at 34%)3"!214-) M4$E%3E13+T-./4%$051'2$0P-CDS-$8U`!X`^#\!````"@```$AO<&MI;G,@ M5````!X`.$`!````#P```$%$051'2$0P-CDS-$8U```"`?L_`0```'0````` M````W*=`R,!"$!JTN0@`*R_A@@$````&````+T\]3$%.0T%35$52(%5.259% M4E-)5%DO3U4]35--04E,+T-./5)%0TE0245.5%,O0TX]35, at 34%)3"!214-) M4$E%3E13+T-./4%$051'2$0P-CDS-$8U`!X`^C\!````"@```$AO<&MI;G,@ M5````!X`.4`!````#P```$%$051'2$0P-CDS-$8U``!```8;ZO`$>`#T``0````$`````````'@`=#@$````K````1VQA3H@;F\@0B93(&-O;G1E;G0@``@0 M`0```&4```!33U)264E&5$A%3$%#2T]&0D5,3$5!3D1314)!4U1)04Y#3TY4 M14Y424Y42$E334%)3$]&1D5.1%-!3EE/3D4L0E5464]54T5%345$3$E+151( 815))1TA44$5/4$Q%5$]!4TM)`````,!F ` end ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9705251m at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 17:35:32 1997 From: 9705251m at xxx.uk (Eoghan Mullan) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 17:35:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: On the radio... Message-ID: <2EB23E63E44@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Did anyone hear the session some (I don't know how many) members of Belle & Sebastian did for Subcity Radio? It was on the Church Of The Spoken Word show on a Saturday afternoon. I only caught the end but it seemed to be a very "Century Of Elvis" type song, oh and the studiuo seemed to be falling apart in the background and this caused one of the songs to be interrupted with a very nice Burt Bacharach song. If anyone has a tape of the show, I'm sure it would be appreciated by all and sundry. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 26 17:57:09 1997 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:57:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: turkey day and books In-Reply-To: Message-ID: thanks to whoever wished us u.s. kids happy thanksgiving. what's the next national holiday in the uk? boxing day or something, i'm sure. anyway, i have another book recommendation. i think i already told some one on the list how great this book was but i'll say it to all of you. the book is called the virgin suicides, by jeff eugenides (this time i remembered the author!). i realize it's not strictly b&s related but i think this book has the same feel as b&s tunes. it's completely timeless, but still manages to be perfectly evocative of a certain time and place. it's been out since 1992, so i hope you all can find it somewhere. cheerio (my linguistics prof wants us to find him some good british/american english comparisons. if you'd like to contribute a favorite word or phrase, feel free.) laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjouan at xxx.com Wed Nov 26 19:10:04 1997 From: mjouan at xxx.com (Michelle Jouan) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 11:10:04 -0800 Subject: Sinister: lyrics Message-ID: <2.2.32.19971126191004.006bffd0@mailbox.previewtravel.com> >I can't understand all these confessions about misunderstanding lyrics... >Doesn't everyone pick up the lyrics from the moment they put the CD on, and >sing lustily along, or is it just me? it's just you. that's why i get angry when bands don't include lyric sheets. :) michelle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Thu Nov 27 07:22:01 1997 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 23:22:01 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Who do they support competition? Message-ID: Funny that should come up...I was so nervous meeting Stuart Murdoch in NYC....All I could think of saying was "you're not a Hun, are ya?" pretty sure he said he supports Celtic...and I think wee Chris said that as well.... we won't mention who *I* support. supported. humph. xbeth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nioannidis at xxx.gr Wed Nov 26 20:15:39 1997 From: nioannidis at xxx.gr (Nicholas Ioannidis) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:15:39 +0200 Subject: Sinister: turkey day and books References: Message-ID: <347C836B.FF21FF8E@ath.forthnet.gr> Laurel Girvan wrote: > thanks to whoever wished us u.s. kids happy thanksgiving. what's the next > national holiday in the uk? boxing day or something, i'm sure. > > anyway, i have another book recommendation. i think i already told some > one on the list how great this book was but i'll say it to all of you. > the book is called the virgin suicides, by jeff eugenides (this time i > Eugenides? I think he is Greek, can you check on that please? Nicholas xox > remembered the author!). i realize it's not strictly b&s related but i > think this book has the same feel as b&s tunes. it's completely timeless, > but still manages to be perfectly evocative of a certain time and place. > it's been out since 1992, so i hope you all can find it somewhere. > > cheerio (my linguistics prof wants us to find him some good > british/american english comparisons. if you'd like to contribute a > favorite word or phrase, feel free.) > > laurel > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 18:48:09 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:48:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hey-wood lane, la la la la la la hey-wood laaane... Message-ID: (subject line refers to GZM BTW) In the Maker Steve latwat said the Colchester Arts Centre was on of B&S's fave venues c'est vrai ou faux? je ne sais pas. Oh, I'll make some Tigermilk tapes if people want any? I'm in the Uk, mail me if you want them! I got a copy of Steve (thank you thank you!) so its not from an original original if you get what I mean, but hey. Whats this about a session on Thursday? We any closer to finding a place to meet on the Sat gig in Manchester day? er, i know i had something to say but I've forgotten it...darn. BTW, everybody buy the maker and vote for B&S! I KNOW they don't need the commercial kudos, i KNOW they don't partake in media rituals, but..... wouldn't it be good if they won!!!! A triumph over music industry scum if you will. Don't count fanzine writers in that, we're all nice and lovely! No, still forgotten my witty cultural discursion that Iwas going to, um, discourse, so I'll leave you. adios!-- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 22:02:58 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:02:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester fandango References: Message-ID: <347C9C92.E82CF658@totalweb.co.uk> Mike Newman wrote: > >What time are the gigs likely to finish? Am I going to have to spend > >two nights sleeping on someone's floor (cheers Dan!), or can I get back > >to Yorkshire on the Sunday night? > > If anyone wants train times, I've got a RailPlanner thingy on this here > computer.... > > Mike or alternatively you can give railtracks site a visit and check exact details yourself. url = http://www.cpoint.co.uk/tw/uk/rail.html or possibly http://www.railtrack.co.uk/travel/ one of them has the timetables on it, hmm, i should go and check. david -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 22:00:11 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:00:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re:Potential External Virus References: <3479C614.24C6@nmrc.ucc.ie> Message-ID: <347C9BEB.E75BDAE6@totalweb.co.uk> Sven Fuchs wrote: > According to our computer support group guy it is a hoax. no virus can > spread just by opening email-messages. > > Sven which is weird really, 'cos as silly as it is, and as much as it's obvious it's a hoax, i've had that message sent to me three times this summer by different caring people. if propaganda could be considered a virus we have here the best example in the world (actually, all over the world.). david -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 22:07:51 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:07:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Beatnik References: <01BCFA5B.6A034B60@n168.natureny.com> Message-ID: <347C9DB7.9F41C18D@totalweb.co.uk> Paige Rosella wrote: > Hello all. > A while back, some were posting about a book called Beatnik, or something to that effect. I have looked for it everywhere here in NYC, but have had no success. Would someone be kind enough to post more details about it so that I may be better armed in my queries to those bookstore types? That would be greatly appreciated! > > Happy Thanksgiving to the US Kids, > Paige it's by Toby Litt is called Beatnik and, bugger i can't remember the publisher or ISBN, but you can get a copy from http://www.bookshop.co.uk/ david -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Nov 26 21:56:43 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 21:56:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails, unsubscribes References: Message-ID: <347C9B1B.73D1339A@totalweb.co.uk> Honey wrote: > I still love you all and want to have your babies. how you gonna manage that? ;) david -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Wed Nov 26 22:41:29 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 22:41:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: you buggers! In-Reply-To: <347BD92C.1B67883D@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971126224129.0069a878@mail.u-net.com> At 08:09 AM 11/26/97 +0000, David & Katrina wrote: >Back on the theme of the proposed London meet, my friends are organising >a pop quiz for Thursday night (tomorrow). So why not use this as a >London meet? Why couldn't you have said this earlier! I've already had plans made for tomorrow night, in fact I shall be in Carnaby St...but it would have been fun... OH well, next time eh when there isn't football on the telly? Byebye... JJ x ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Belleanseb at xxx.com Wed Nov 26 23:01:32 1997 From: Belleanseb at xxx.com (Belleanseb at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 18:01:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Electronic Renaissance Message-ID: <971126180132_1405768854@mrin84.mail.aol.com> > > The story I heard about Electronic Renaissance was that it was a > throwaway song, Stuart M proving (to Chris?) that it was dead easy to > write dancy stuff. > Luv > Iain, Glasgow That sounds very plausible to me, sadly Stuart succeeded in proving quite the opposite. Don't we love them for their guitar-led brilliance rather than this synth cackhandery? Guess it just goes to show that even a band as talented as B&S can have their David Bowie moment. Let's just hope they drop the touted speed garage track "Sebastian's Nation" from the next album. I had hoped they were above all that. x Belle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 03:02:37 1997 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 97 03:02:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S international dating service Message-ID: <199711270152.BAA05441@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Honey (all hail!) wrote on 20/11/97: >Well funny you say that. Someone else on the list (pen name ce ce >peniston) is privately begging me to set up a Sinister Blind Date with me >in the role of Cilla. So if anyone wants to send in their details, >height, weight, likes/dislikes and favourite foods, I will set up an >agency and match you all up. Oh and you better add details of your >sexuality. even funnier, I've noticed over the last few months the odd mail from non-Scottish listees who have fallen for the Scots accent, as featured on Century of Elvis (and utilised by my good self up here in Edinburgh). So maybe your agency could assume international status and link up the hordes of Scots fans (all armed with Sean Connery brogue) with all those lovely people. Gawd, I'm bored. Keith Watson wrote: >Won't be in at the Egg next this weekend Paul - got to go and visit my >parents and pick up my stricken fan-beltless car - was there last week >though, and you weren't (This could constitute a breach of contract!) apologies. I was on holiday in Sicily and would have gone through London when you were at the Bill Gates-fest. The only bad thing to come from such a break was downloading the 150-plus mails from you lot alone that had piled high while I was in sunnier climes. Byeee! Paul "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From qhsmich at xxx.se Thu Nov 27 07:28:48 1997 From: qhsmich at xxx.se (Michel O'Dwyer) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 08:28:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk copies / Arab Strap Message-ID: <347D2130.6DA5@aom.ericsson.se> Tigermilk copies ---------------- No, I'm not looking for one - I have mine already courtesy of Ben, complete with sessions and demos. So, if anybody out there wants me to make a copy, get in touch. I'm living in Sweden at the moment, so I suppose it makes sense that I'd do a copy for anybody in that vicinity. Also, I'll be back home in Ireland this weekend, so if there's any irish folk on the list that want me to send them a copy then, get in touch with me today. Do not reply to the list! I'm only on the digest, and chances are I won't see it before I leave work today (about 5pm Irish time), and so won't get time to make the tape (also, please note that there's only about 4-5 hours tonight that I can make the tapes, and each one will take 90 minutes, so in case I get a deluge of requests, I can only make tapes for the first three people. Others will have to wait until next week) Write to me at qhsmich at aom.ericsson.se Arab Strap ---------- While I wasn't very au fait with this band, I'd seen them being mentioned on the list a lot. I got the Hey!Fever/Girls of Summer single on Chemikal Underground yesterday. I was quite pleased to see Stuart Murdoch and Chris Geddes credited on Hey Fever, but not even that prepared me for the song itself. Let's just say that any tune that can get me to bop around my apartment at 6:30 am has to have something special going for it. My question is whether this is 'typical' Arab Strab (I love Girls of Summer too, only not quite as much)? And if so, does anybody have a discography? Ta, Mick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 09:55:10 1997 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:55:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Tigermilk copies / Arab Strap Message-ID: <3226.199711270955@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Well hello there It's only common courtesy to introduce myself....I'll keep it short. I'm Sarah studying for a PhD at Glasgow Uni in ummmmmmm, oh yeh, some sciencey stuff. I've been browsing the list for sometime now without having much to say, but I think it's time to break my silence. Mick asked for an Arab Strap discography. Here's the website address for all the information you require (I hope): http://www.chemikal.demon.co.uk/hi-fi/bands/arabstrap/index.html Just to back-step slightly re: claims to fame........I snogged Aidan Moffat (Arab Strap) about 7 years ago......well it was New Year at Falkirk steeple...and it's probably not a claim to fame anyway, as pretty much all my Falkirk mates have done too!! Oh well, I have got Magnus Magnusson's autograph! Does that count? Sarah x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 09:36:52 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:36:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: turkey day and books Message-ID: <01bcfb17$fe0548b0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> -----Original Message----- From: Laurel Girvan To: michael Cc: Sinister at ph.ed.ac.uk Date: 26 November 1997 18:34 Subject: Sinister: turkey day and books > >thanks to whoever wished us u.s. kids happy thanksgiving. what's the next >national holiday in the uk? boxing day or something, i'm sure. I did actually try to find out if it was some obscure holiday yesterday so's I could wish everyone a happy Ascension day or something, but to no avail. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Thu Nov 27 10:26:43 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:26:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: turkey day and books (NB&SC) Message-ID: <01BCFB1E.F5629300@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Laurel wrote: >my linguistics prof wants us to find him some good british/american english comparisons. if you'd like to contribute a favorite word or phrase, feel free. What's always puzzled me is how a country that doesn't know it's arse from it's fanny managed to rise to such prominence... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 09:53:48 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:53:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Electronic Renaissance Message-ID: <01bcfb1a$5b683a10$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >That sounds very plausible to me, sadly Stuart succeeded in proving >quite the opposite. Don't we love them for their guitar-led brilliance >rather than this synth cackhandery? Guess it just goes to show that >even a band as talented as B&S can have their David Bowie moment. >Let's just hope they drop the touted speed garage track "Sebastian's >Nation" from the next album. I had hoped they were above all that. > >x Belle Hmm I love electronic renaissance although it certainly does split the ranks. I don't really care too much about synths or guitars either, the song's lovely and that's good enough for me, indeed I like the variety in arrangement. Indeed I'm going to spend the day listening to Kraftwerk. And David Bowie in fact. Is there something wrong? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 10:53:18 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:53:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Who do they support competition? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Beth - > Funny that should come up...I was so nervous meeting Stuart Murdoch in > NYC....All I could think of saying was "you're not a Hun, are ya?" pretty > sure he said he supports Celtic...and I think wee Chris said that as > well.... > > we won't mention who *I* support. supported. humph. Third Lanark? Or were they before your time. (B&S Content) Anyone else travelling down to Manchester from Edinburgh on the 27th? chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 972286231 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 10:59:45 1997 From: 972286231 at xxx.uk (MR NICK SANT) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 10:59:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Famous people sightings In-Reply-To: <3226.199711270955@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: I once saw Sandie Toksvig in a theatre when i was on a school trip to see Hamlet or something. I said "Look, it's Sandie Toksvig" and all my friends laughed and said she looked nothing like her so i went over and said "Excuse me, but are you Sandie Toksvig?" and she said "Yes" and i replied "Cheers, thought so" and walked off. I've no idea how to spell her name so i guessed. If it isn't right then sorry. Take Care, Love & Rage, Nick. (972286231 at 97.lincoln.ac.uk) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Nov 27 11:27:01 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 11:27:01 GMT Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap/I've shhtarted sho I'll finishhhh, pal! In-Reply-To: <3226.199711270955@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> References: <3226.199711270955@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <347f58cb.1899791@email.mcmail.com> On Thu, 27 Nov 1997 09:55:10 GMT, Sarah Wheeler wrote: >Well hello there Hello >Just to back-step slightly re: claims to fame........I snogged Aidan Moffat >(Arab Strap) about 7 years ago......well it was New Year at Falkirk >steeple...and it's probably not a claim to fame anyway, as pretty much all >my Falkirk mates have done too!! You do realise that's going to give me tortured visions for the rest of the day. I like to think of Arab Strap as Belle and Sebastian's evil cousins, B&S in the choir and Arab Strap drinking hooch, farting in assembly and lobbing half-bricks at hapless motorists...snogging them is something I'd prefer not to think about. >Oh well, I have got Magnus Magnusson's autograph! Does that count? My father saw Magnus Magnusson staggering blind drunk through Glasgow Central Station many years ago. He didn't ask for his autograph. Does anyone else like the new Adventures in Stereo single? Poor Jim Beattie (or Jam Buttie as some wags used to call him), all those wonderful melodies running round his head, and he's never got as popular as Bobby Gillespie. Incidentally is anyone going to see Arab Strap at Manchester Roadhouse on Monday? If you see a short 'strawberry blond' boy there, say hello, it's probably me. Sorry, I can't quite bring myself to describe my hair as 'ginger'. My sister was teaching her class of 5 year olds about hair colour, and this one kid said his hair was 'sparkly orange'. I like that. In Romania they say 'the red man is a bad man'. You know it. I'm bad. Love and kisses Sparkly Orange of Chorlton ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Thu Nov 27 13:19:34 1997 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:19:34 GMT Subject: Sinister: hi ci ya!- hold tight!! (minimal BSC) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: So, on Tuesday, we set off for London. Y'see, there's a school of thought predominant round these parts that says, "Fuck it. You're young, but you can still get served. The government and banks are giving you money, why not rack up debts on ridiculous Pop adventures?". Bloody students, I know. So we'd blagged tickets to go see TOTP being filmed, and given up the drink for a while to save for the fare to King's Cross, and - this is the best part- it wasn't just any old episode, it was the Spice Girls Xmas bonanza. The Croydon massive in the queue questionned the sanity of our six hour round trip, but we, merry on anticipation and Metz, shouted stupid things about youth, Simon Price, and Tony Dorty. (That last bit was a lie, but sounded quite cool, no?) Anyway, this is getting very long, so I'll skip the bits about hot lights, metal detectors, and standing about for hours, and rave about how tiny the Famous Five are, how Sporty is easily the coolest, how petite Geri is, and how Posh is a bit tarty. We don't know when it'll be on telly, but look out for Jenny in her skatewear in the front row during 'Spice Up Yr Life', and myself dancing a bit sheepishly in big flares and bad trainers. As claims to fame go, standing right next the most famous (and charming/talented/gorgeous) girls-next-door isn't a bad one, so I'll not apologise for bringing back long-dead topics. On a more relevant tip, did anyone hear the Bernard Butler single on the radio?- oh dear- and, seeing as Moffat and co. are big news round these parts, wasn't there Breeze Block a joy to behold? Joseph xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 13:44:48 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:44:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tales of Beatnik Glory Message-ID: <199711271347.NAA28699@orange.easynet.co.uk> > Paige Rosella wrote: > > > Hello all. > > A while back, some were posting about a book called Beatnik, or something to that effect. I have looked for it everywhere here in NYC, but have had no success. Would someone be kind enough to post more details about it so that I may be better armed in my queries to those bookstore types? That would be greatly appreciated! > > I've had quite a few enquiries about this book. It's by Toby Litt, and it's published by Secker and Warburg. It probably isn't available in America at the moment, although his first collection of short stories, 'Adventures in Capitalism', may be. The stories include ruminations on the meaning of Mr Kipling and his exceedingly good cakes, and tube ads for car insurance. Anyway, I probably won't read my copy of 'Beatniks' again, so I thought I'd set a competition for anyone who wants it. I've got a promo copy of a CD from Rykodisc called 'Kicks, Joy, Darkness - the pomes of Jack Kerouac' (musical interpretations by Mikey Stipe, Johnny Depp, Patti Smith) which I'm unlikely to listen to, and I'll throw that in as well. So if you'd like to win these two beat artefacts, the questions is: The indisputable Top Cat had a number of close friends who got to call him 'TC' (providing it was with dignity), but WHAT WAS THE NAME OF HIS BEATNIK PAL (you know, the one who wore a beret and shades)? Answers by next Monday, please. Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Thu Nov 27 14:34:55 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 27 Nov 97 14:34:55 Subject: Sinister: Ooh-er Message-ID: <9711271341.AA4764@notesgw.compuserve.com> I've just been informed by a kind correspondent that SM's working title for "Tigermilk" was the incomparably superior "Cock fun" I wish he had gone the "Cock fun" way really - such a stunt, peurile as it may be, might have stopped some of the lazy dismissals that some (particularly in the music press) seem to have made. Moreover, wouldn't it be great to have people baying for "tapes of cock fun" on the sinister mailing list. Mind you, I'm on dodgy enough ground subscribing to it on my work e-mail anyway - I'd really have some explaining to do if they happened to intercept such messages. Nick Dastoor Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com@internet at cserve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hodge at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 22:52:13 1997 From: hodge at xxx.uk (Graham Hodge) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:52:13 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Kitty... Message-ID: <347DF99D.515B@mtl-herald.co.uk> ...Kitty...Are you there Kitty? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rafa_pop at xxx.com Thu Nov 27 13:56:23 1997 From: rafa_pop at xxx.com (rafa pop) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 05:56:23 PST Subject: Sinister: cheers from Barcelona Message-ID: <19971127135623.6003.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi ...my name is Rafa and I'm from Barcelona, Spain ..and I'm totally..ummm..captured ?? fascinated ?? totally in love with the Belle and Sebastian music . This is the first time I write to the list ( I subscribed to it just one week ago ). I first heard B&S one year ago in the coolest spanish radio show, called " Viaje a los Suenyos Polares " ( Journey to the Polar dreams )....and since then they've become one of my favourite bands (together with the rest of lovely scottish bands I adore, like Teenage Fanclub, The Pastels, BMX Bandits, Eugenius, The Vaselines ...what's up with Scotland ?? something great ,sure ...) Two months ago we were so lucky to see B&S playing a free show here in Barcelona. The place was so appropiate for them, the front of an old church in the Gothic part of Barcelona. Before B&S there was a trembling concert by The Magnetic Fields (another unique band ), and then ...well ..the B&S show was totally ...I'm not skilled enough in english to express what a unforgetable and .it was full of emotion.....the place ..and mainly..the MUSIC...all of the audience felt in love with the band at that moment. It was a free show and ther was a lot of people in the audience who had never heard about B&S but even them were in silence and enjoying the show. It was REALLY ........pure emotion ..I could get the tracklist and I saw some guys recording the show with a video camera and since then I'm desperately looking for them all around the city to get a copy ...From that day , a lot of people here in Barcelona love them. My request is : any of you owns Tigermilk ?? I know it's totally impossible to get a copy of it but if you are so lucky to own it ......would you be so kind to record it on a tape and send it to me ?? I would send you back something..I own If you're feeling of course ..and also the threee singles but I need to hear Tigermilk :-))) That's all ....thank you ... Rafa ... Email me please at the following adress :: e6735974 at est.eupvg.upc.es Adios !!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From metcalf at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 23:09:40 1997 From: metcalf at xxx.uk (Kate Metcalf) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:09:40 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Merchandise Message-ID: <347DFDB4.2DE7@mtl-herald.co.uk> I love Belle and Sebby, and I want you all to know that tonight sees (hears??) the last of their '97 session tracks on Radio 1's Evening Session (6.30pm/8.30pm). I am 25 and employed. I do not spend my time continually on e-mail. Graham, alright mate?? Kitty x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 14:13:01 1997 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:13:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Can I just share for a minute... Message-ID: a wee quote from my house last night, 'cos it made me chuckle. While playing Scrabble - Sarah - I wonder why 'jelly' is spelt with a 'j' and yet 'gell' is spelt with a 'g'. Gina - Well, isn't it becaue jelly is a party food? lol chris xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 14:42:39 1997 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 14:42:39 GMT Subject: Sinister: Get to Falkirk! Message-ID: <10284.199711271442@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> >I used to live in Falkirk - where did you live. My dad also helped Magnus >Magnusson present the 1974 scottish General Election program! I stayed in Larbert, before moving to Wallacestone (in a privately owned house, which makes me a complete snob, at least according to the whole of Graeme High School (or so it seemed))! I still frequent Falkirk quite regularly, especially Firkins, where Arab Strap can be found most days, if not at Pennies Indie disco. Oooops, only my second mail, and already I'm completely off-topic. To get back on, can anyone tell me if the B&S cartoon t-shirts are as cool as they look on the merchandise page??? Sarah Snob (yep, it's a very sore point) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 15:08:11 1997 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Chekhov) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:08:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Get to Falkirk! In-Reply-To: <10284.199711271442@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > Oooops, only my second mail, and already I'm completely off-topic. To get > back on, can anyone tell me if the B&S cartoon t-shirts are as cool as they > look on the merchandise page??? Yes yes yes - I got the white and coloured one through the post just the other day, and it's just so lovely I want to wear it every day Love, Rob > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? Oh yes :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Nov 27 14:29:02 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:29:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re:Potential External Virus References: <3479C614.24C6@nmrc.ucc.ie> <347C9BEB.E75BDAE6@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <347D83AE.CEE53845@colon.net.> David & Katrina wrote: > Sven Fuchs wrote: > > > According to our computer support group guy it is a > hoax. no virus can > > spread just by opening email-messages. > > > > Sven > > which is weird really, 'cos as silly as it is, and as much > as it's obvious > it's a hoax, i've had that message sent to me three times > this summer by > different caring people. It's not obvious that it's a hoax if (like me) you don't know the first thing about computers. I suppose that's who they're aimed at. I have a horror of having my hard disk (or anything else for that matter) wiped by an external intruder, so I make sure and keep a copy of all the information contained therein. What I do is get the sharp end of a compass and engrave it all in the run-off grooves of my collection of old 78 rpm discs. That way I'm safe from the potential ravages of virus-filled e-mails and electrical storms alike. Private conversation to save stamps: Archie Shepp: thanks for the goodies. Yours will be winging its way as soon as I rescue it from the car. Charlotte: I am unable to locate your address. I think a virus must have come along and "wiped" it before I had chance to engrave it. Also, you can breathe easily, as I've just sent off the stuff about moveable chattels. Here is a B&S ponderable problem: Municipal pool, you're a junior lifesaver....does that mean a life saver who is junior, or a saver of junior lives? Eh? I prefer the latter, because it maintains the JD Salinger obsession that runs throughout Mister Murdoch's ramblings. There's another possibilty for the tribute band: The Junior Lifesavers. Sad to hear about Partick Thistle's problems. It seems strange that they could go from supplying extravagantly permed World Cup stars to this sorry state of affairs in a few short years. I used to enjoy seeing The Jags' three or four suppoerters trudging their way home on Saturday evenings, proudly wearing their scarves. I have even graced the terraces of Firhill on one memorable occasion, but not to see Partick Thistle. It was a veritable clash of the titans - Clyde versus Ayr United! I can't remember the score, but there was lots of goalmouth action. This was in the days before computer virus were a common conversation topic. Peter "Trojan Horse" Miller ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Thu Nov 27 15:58:13 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:58:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: misc stuff, some b&s Message-ID: <8025655C.00578120.00@bull.co.uk> um, bits of everything: the virgin suicides: i've read this as well, chosen from the book club catalogue because i liked the cover but it turned out to be rather good - all about the repurcussions on a small town in america when one of a family of 5 oppressed girls commits suicide as seen through the eyes of the neighbourhood boys. was like a cross between 'stand by me' and anything by anne tyler. beatnik: they had a pile of these in dillons on trafalger square the other dinnertime when i was in there. i knew it sounded familiar but couldn't place where i'd heard of it before. some old car on the cover or something? international dating agency: bad idea. email is not the way to conduct a relationship especially on days like today when it's a public holiday over there and you know you aren't going to hear from them tonight... or for the rest of the weekend for that matter... sigh. b&s session: um, having now heard lazy line without monica i now see why people didn't like the real version. and last night's 'sleep the clock around' was superb, nice to hear a proper version (ie not live and mumbly). the lyrics are finely crafted too, none of that sense of crowbarring them into the song that i got with (some of the tracks on) the last ep. has anyone had a stab at the lyrics yet, it's probably the hardest to decipher thing they've done so far? i have most of verses 1 ('and the moment will come') and 3 ('in the morning') but verse 2 ('take a walk in the park') is more gaps than actual song... i've also got almost all of 'modern rock song' if it's not been posted before... (yes it has, it's in the tab section of the mailing list site) thanks to andrea for offering tapes for everyone. i've done it in the past but i had a bad experience and am reluctant to start again - someone asked for a tape, not b&s but that's not important. i told them to send me a tape etc and they did. the tape was posted to me on the monday (this is transatlantic postage we're talking here so it's going to take about a week). on the wednesday i had email asking if i had it yet. on the friday i had another asking if i had it yet 'and why aren't you answering my emails' (because i'd been out the office and i had nothing to tell). i did the tape on the sunday morning and posted it back on the monday. and that's it. never heard back from the person concerned, no thankyou, no nothing. ungrateful cow. actually, thinking about it, all the people i did b&s tapes for were great and i still write to a couple of them... and steve lamacq was worse than ever last night. i've decided he must die... yep, arab strap breeze block was good. can't remember a single thing they played now though. oh, something from 'pod' by the breeders, some more stuff... ok, have a good time those of you who'll be in london tonight. andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Nov 27 16:21:05 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:21:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S international dating service In-Reply-To: <199711270152.BAA05441@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, plaird wrote: > Keith Watson wrote: > >Won't be in at the Egg next this weekend Paul - got to go and visit my > >parents and pick up my stricken fan-beltless car - was there last week > >though, and you weren't (This could constitute a breach of contract!) > > "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board The Egg? Do we mean the club at the Wee Red Bar?? I've bee thenre a few times. I'm the one in the B&S T-shirt :) Can't say I like it much, though. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 0 OK, 0:1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eds1 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 12:30:23 1997 From: eds1 at xxx.uk (Ed Smithson) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 13:30:23 +0100 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Everyone thought it was a shame. Message-ID: Is there anyone who will be travelling from Cumbria to Manchester to see B&S on either the 27th or the 28th? (Probably not because no-one in Cumbria will have a computer, and the chances of finding another fan in the county are negligable, but, hey it's worth a try). I've got no-one to go with because all my mates despise B&S. Ed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Nov 27 16:39:48 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 16:39:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: hi ci ya!- hold tight!! (minimal BSC) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, Cairns wrote: > Y'see, there's a school of thought predominant round these parts that > says, "Fuck it. You're young, but you can still get served. The > government and banks are giving you money, why not rack up debts on > ridiculous Pop adventures?". Bloody students, I know. That's what the loans are for :) When I got my first one three years ago, I immediately ran out and bought... a lava lamp. > So we'd blagged tickets to go see TOTP being filmed, and given up the > drink for a while to save for the fare to King's Cross, and - this is > the best part- it wasn't just any old episode, it was the Spice Girls > Xmas bonanza. Bastardbastardbastard! I was meant to be taking part in an on-line chat with the Spice Girls, but Capital FM screwed it up, so it never happened :( I was so looking forward to giving Sporty my homepage address so she could see my photo and fall madly in love with me. > Anyway, this is getting very long, so I'll skip the bits about hot > lights, metal detectors, and standing about for hours, and rave about > how tiny the Famous Five are, how Sporty is easily the coolest, how > petite Geri is, and how Posh is a bit tarty. ^^^^^^^ That's one way of putting it! > On a more relevant tip, did anyone hear the Bernard Butler single on > the radio?- oh dear Yeah? I'm still waiting to hear Ian Brown's single. >- and, seeing as Moffat and co. are big news round > these parts, wasn't there Breeze Block a joy to behold? I only bought their album at the weekend there, but it is grand. BTW, the header should say "Hai! Ci! Ja!", because that means Yes in Japanese, Spanish and German, fact-fans. Oh, and anyone wanting to get into TOTP should do what I do. Turn up on the day, and find a group of two or three people. TOTP send out tickets for 4 so you can usually blag in with some complete strangers. Worked for me! Rod. (Smash Hits reader, and proud of it!) Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 0 OK, 0:1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From metcalf at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 02:25:04 1997 From: metcalf at xxx.uk (Kate Metcalf) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:25:04 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Graham's got a... Message-ID: <347E2B80.1FD5@mtl-herald.co.uk> BRAND NEW T-SHIRT!!! (The envy of all Belle and Sebastianlandshire). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 17:21:31 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:21:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Electronic Renaissance References: <971126180132_1405768854@mrin84.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <347DAC1B.7AB2FCE7@mail.zynet.co.uk> Belleanseb at aol.com wrote: > > > > The story I heard about Electronic Renaissance > was that it was a > > throwaway song, Stuart M proving (to Chris?) > that it was dead easy to > > write dancy stuff. > > Luv > > Iain, Glasgow > > That sounds very plausible to me, sadly Stuart > succeeded in proving > quite the opposite. i agree, but not quite... if the initial impetus for the song is indeed as suspected, then what Stuart has in fact proved is that yes, it is indeed very easy to write a 'dance' track, but that hmmm, when you come to listen to it all, maybe it's actually rather more difficult to write a GREAT dance record. Because 'ER' is hardly great, and in fact it's hardly a 'dance' record at all. It has a drum machine doing a vague 'disco' beat, but, um, so what? It's 'dance' in the realms of, say St Etienne (and again, not as good as their best), but hardly cutting edge. Count the number of crap dance records you hear. Now count the number of crap windy indie records you hear. What's the difference? there is none... It's a complex area, trying to 'copy' someone else's art, someone else's genre of art. Watch out for the batches of B&S copycats, and see how many match up... because they don;t have the edge, the spark, the essential It. Pick a wadge of drum and bass platters, pick out the ones that are Special... define what they have... you find it difficult, because it's a complex entity. It might seem easy, but it's not. Balances and indefinable sonic responses. Don't say something is 'easy' until you can make something that deals in the currency and hits the mark of greatness. cultural commentary over. the dashing duke (that's dashing as in a hurry...) -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 17:36:11 1997 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:36:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S international dating service Message-ID: <01bcfb5a$f3a386a0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> -----Original Message----- From: Rod Begbie To: plaird Cc: 'sinister at majordomo.net' Date: 27 November 1997 17:01 Subject: Re: Sinister: B&S international dating service >On Thu, 27 Nov 1997, plaird wrote: > >> Keith Watson wrote: >> >Won't be in at the Egg next this weekend Paul - got to go and visit my >> >parents and pick up my stricken fan-beltless car - was there last week >> >though, and you weren't (This could constitute a breach of contract!) >> >> "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board > >The Egg? Do we mean the club at the Wee Red Bar?? I've bee thenre a few >times. I'm the one in the B&S T-shirt :) > >Can't say I like it much, though. > >Rod. > I know what you look like mate - I remember you from School. Can't say I've seen you there though. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 27 18:02:23 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:02:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Electronic Renaissance References: <971126180132_1405768854@mrin84.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <347DB5AF.6D71@virgin.net> Belleanseb at aol.com wrote: > > > > > The story I heard about Electronic Renaissance was that it was a > > throwaway song, Stuart M proving (to Chris?) that it was dead easy to > > write dancy stuff. > That sounds very plausible to me, sadly Stuart succeeded in proving > quite the opposite. Don't we love them for their guitar-led brilliance > rather than this synth cackhandery? Guess it just goes to show that > even a band as talented as B&S can have their David Bowie moment. > Let's just hope they drop the touted speed garage track "Sebastian's > Nation" from the next album. I had hoped they were above all that. > > x Belle I hope you don't mean that you don't think Electronic Renaissance is any good? How dare you ... (gets horribly censored by Paul ... sorry!) I thought B&S were about what your fave track is and not which ones you don't like? Cheers, Katrina. (upset that anyone could slag off - sorry, australianisms - her most precious son ...) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Nov 27 18:02:29 1997 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 18:02:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BEWARE - Long e-mail ... :) References: <9711271341.AA4764@notesgw.compuserve.com> Message-ID: <347DB5B5.1899@virgin.net> Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB wrote: > > I've just been informed by a kind correspondent that SM's working title for > "Tigermilk" was the incomparably superior "Cock fun" Ummm, actually it was "...Sinister" that was going to be called ... well, you know. I don't really want to repeat it. Just wondering how the entry for the rough guide thing is going? I wrote a press release the other day for Record Collector which may be of use to whoever types up the thing in the end, so here goes:- BELLE AND SEBASTIAN BIOGRAPHY, NOVEMBER 1997 BELLE AND SEBASTIAN WERE FORMED IN AN ALL-NIGHT CAFÉ IN GLASGOW, JANUARY 1996. STUART MURDOCH (SINGER/SONGWRITER) AND STUART DAVID (BASS GUITAR) MET ON A GOVERNMENT TRAINING SCHEME AND RECORDED SOME DEMOS, WHICH WERE PICKED UP BY A JEEPSTER SCOUT WHO WAS TAKING PART IN THE STOW COLLEGE MUSIC BUSINESS COURSE. THE COURSE, RUN BY EX-ASSOCIATE ALAN RANKINE, PRODUCES AND RELEASES ONE RECORD EVERY YEAR ON THE COLLEGE LABEL ELECTRIC HONEY RECORDS, USUALLY A SINGLE. HOWEVER IN THE CASE OF BELLE AND SEBASTIAN THEY HAD ENOUGH SONGS TO RECORD A WHOLE ALBUM, AND SO THE ELUSIVE TIGERMILK WAS BORN. RECORDED IN THREE DAYS AND ONE THOUSAND COPIES RELEASED ON VINYL ONLY, IT NOW CHANGES HANDS FOR UP TO £200 PER COPY. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN THEN SIGNED TO JEEPSTER IN AUGUST AND THE CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED LP IF YOU'RE FEELING SINISTER (JPRCD/LP/MC001) WAS RELEASED NOVEMBER 18TH. THE SUPPORT SLOT FOR THE TINDERSTICKS ICA GIGS, FOLLOWED BY A HEADLINE SHOW AT THE BORDERLINE IN EARLY NOVEMBER BROUGHT THE JOYS OF BELLE AND SEBASTIAN LIVE TO THE SOUTH FOR THE FIRST TIME. THE BAND THEN SET ABOUT WITH THE PLAN OF SPENDING THE SUMMER OF 1997 RELEASING EP'S, THE FIRST OF THESE BEING DOG ON WHEELS ON 28TH APRIL. THIS RELEASE CONTAINED EARLY DEMOS OF THE BAND, PREVIOUS TO ALL THE CURRENT MEMBERS JOINING, INCLUDING THE DEMO VERSION OF THE STATE I AM IN. MARK RADCLIFFE HAD PLAYED THE MASTERED TIGERMILK VERSION OF THIS TRACK RELENTLESSLY, AND FOR THOSE WITHOUT A COPY OF THE VINYL MASTERPIECE, THE DOG EP (JPRCDS/12/7001) APPEASED THE FANS THIRST ENOUGH TO PUT THE SINGLE IN AT NUMBER 59 ON THE SINGLES CHART. THE SECOND EP LAZY LINE PAINTER JANE, WAS RELEASED ON JULY 28TH, THE WEEK OF THE SEMINAL UNION CHAPEL GIG IN ISLINGTON, LONDON. DESPITE THE POOR SOUND, THE BAND HAD THE CROWD DANCING IN THE AISLES (AND PEWS) OF THE CHAPEL. FOR MOST, THIS GIG WAS THEIR FIRST B&S GIG AND A RELIGIOUS EXPERIENCE WAS SHARED BY ALL. THE LAZY JANE EP NARROWLY MISSED THE TOP 40, CRASHING IN AT NUMBER 41, MUCH TO CHRIS GEDDES (KEYBOARDS) AMUSEMENT, AS HE HAD MADE BETS WITH JEEPSTER BOSS MARK JONES THAT IT WOULD NOT GET IN. THE BAND PLAYED TWO MORE GIGS ON THEIR MINI TOUR OF THE SOUTH-WEST IN OXFORD AND COLCHESTER, PREPARING THEM FOR THEIR AMERICAN DEBUT. THE SINISTER LP HAD BEEN LICENSED IN NORTH AMERICA BY VIRGIN SUBSIDIARY LABEL THE ENCLAVE SINCE FEBRUARY. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN JOURNEYED OVER TO NEW YORK IN SEPTEMBER TO TAKE PART IN THE CMJ (COLLEGE MUSIC JOURNAL) FESTIVAL. THEY PLAYED TWO GIGS AT THE ANGEL ORANSANZ FOUNDATION CENTRE FOR THE ARTS, AN OLD CHAPEL IN GREENWICH VILLAGE. THE EXCITEMENT LEVELS WERE SO HIGH, PARTS OF THE CEILING DECIDED TO JOIN THE BAND ONSTAGE, AS BELLE AND SEBASTIAN - LITERALLY - BROUGHT THE HOUSE DOWN. THE BAND WERE ALSO INVITED TO PLAY AT THE BARCELONA BAM FESTIVAL IN LATE SEPTEMBER. THIS TIME THEIR VENUE WAS AN ANCIENT COURTYARD AT THE PLAZA DEL RAI, AND UNDER A STARRY MOONLIT SKY THEY CAPTIVATED, YET AGAIN, ANOTHER AUDIENCE. 3..6..9 SECONDS OF LIGHT WAS THE LAST OF THE SUMMER EP'S RELEASED ON OCTOBER 13TH, AND THE MUSIC PRESS FINALLY REALISED JUST HOW IMPORTANT B&S ARE, WHEN BOTH THE MELODY MAKER AND THE NME MADE IT SINGLE OF THE WEEK. DESPITE THE LACK OF RADIO PLAY, IT BECAME THE BANDS' FIRST TOP 40 HIT, DEBUTING AT NUMBER 32 ON THE CHARTS. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN HAVE SPENT THE END OF 1997 RECORDING THEIR THIRD LP (AS YET UNTITLED) AND REHEARSING FOR THE CHRISTMAS GIGS AT THE MANCHESTER TOWN HALL ON THE 27TH AND 28TH OF DECEMBER. THE BEGINNING OF 1998 WILL SEE THEM RELEASE ANOTHER EP, FEATURING THE EPIC MODERN ROCK SONG, WHICH WAS FEATURED ON AN EARLY MARK & LARD RADIO ONE SESSION. THE WORLD BECKONS. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN ARE: STUART MURDOCH VOCALS/GUITAR STEVIE JACKSON LEAD GUITARS/VOCALS ISOBEL CAMPBELL CELLO/VOCALS/PERCUSSION/KEYBOARDS CHRIS GEDDES PIANO/KEYBOARDS RICHARD COLBURN DRUMS/PERCUSSION STUART DAVID BASS/SPOKEN BITS SARAH MARTIN VIOLIN/RECORDER/BASS STUART MURDOCH IS THE MAIN WRITER, HOWEVER STEVIE AND ISOBEL HAVE BOTH WRITTEN NEW SONGS FOR THE FORTHCOMING ALBUM. FOR MORE INFORMATION PLEASE CONTACT KATRINA HOUSE OR MARK JONES ON 0181 964 9432 dunno why that came out in capitals, but i ain't doing it again so please forgive me. cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 17:34:02 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:34:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: HAPPY HAPPY DAY! Message-ID: TO ALL THE UK KIDS!!! happy lancashire day!!!!!!!!! (honestly, it is.) sayonara sausages!-- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Thu Nov 27 20:00:14 1997 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 20:00:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Message-ID: I thought the gig was in the new 13th Note which is where the Ventura bar used to be? If so it is near King Street (where the Tron Theatre is). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jacques.buron at xxx.fr Thu Nov 27 21:17:30 1997 From: jacques.buron at xxx.fr (Stphane) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 21:17:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: TO JULIA Message-ID: <347DE36A.64A4@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Sorry for this private message, but it's the only way to get in touch with JULIA... I've been trying to send you mails for several days but theu're always sent back with a message of error... Where are you??? Stéphane (bored with his nickname, Walter) -- " Get me away from here, I'm dying..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Nov 27 17:39:07 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 17:39:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: musical genres.... Message-ID: a b&s speed garage track?? wow! DO IT. This could be amazingly good or amazingly bad, but hey! Thats whats exciting!Do you want all songs to sound the same? -- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Nov 27 20:19:02 1997 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 21:19:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Beatnik Glory and dance music References: <199711271347.NAA28699@orange.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <347DD5B6.69D677A5@colon.net.> stephen troussé wrote: > The indisputable Top Cat had a number of close friends who > got to call him > 'TC' (providing it was with dignity), but WHAT WAS THE > NAME OF HIS BEATNIK > PAL (you know, the one who wore a beret and shades)? > > Answers by next Monday, please. > What a fiendish lot you Poetry Society types are! I headed straight for my copy of The Golden Age of Children's Television by Geoff Tibbals, with foreword by Johnny Morris, and there is a list of all the characters...but no indication of which is which!!! Monday you say? That sets me up for an interesting weekend of rumination. I know that the violinist was called Laszlo Laszlo. Will that do? Eeny meeny miney mo.... Peter PS: Belle and Sebastian are part of an exciting promotion in my local branch of Gong records. There's a big blow-up of the cover. If you buy a copy you go into a draw to win all the other cds in the promotion (shit ones) and B&S again. I know that's not very interesting, but I feel it's my duty to keep you all abreast of B&S developments in this pop backwater. I think Duke was right about "dance" records. I would love to follow his advice and get a pile of drum and bass records, but it's only used for adverts here. I did see Roni Size and his chums' prize winning epic, but I didn't have enough money at the time. Some bugger swiped it from under my nose, so now I'm just biding my time, waiting to pounce. If you think dance music is bad where you live, try the Spanish version, known inexplicably as "cod", as in the fish. I wonder if anyone's going to leap to its defence? Carlos? New boy Rafa? 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Fri Nov 28 10:45:47 1997 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 97 02:45:47 PST Subject: Sinister: look, ma.....a b&s related post Message-ID: hey all. listen. i need some info from those of you who have seen them live because i'm involved in a bitter dispute with a stupid stupid boy. what kind of guitar does stuart murdoch play? is it an epiphone broadway type guitar or something else? i do have a life......contrary to what most of you are thinking at the moment. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plastik at xxx.com Fri Nov 28 06:08:13 1997 From: plastik at xxx.com (dina passman) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 01:08:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: a virgin no more Message-ID: <347E5FCD.18B5@erols.com> hey kids, may i begin by introducing myself? my name is dina and i am yet another member of the washington,dc crew (i can see pam's house from my window). i suppose that's all fairly irrelevant, though. i am presently inspired to give some film advice. my reviews begin here: HAPPY TOGETHER > a wonderful movie by mr. wai who directed chung king express. i recommend this to anyone who is interested in the loves of fellows from hong kong and taiwan which take place in beunos aires. this film is beautifully shot and includes the sexiest male/male tango scene ever known. BENT > this film sucked. there are many reasons for this. this first has nothing to due with the subject matter of homosexuality and the holocaust. no, it has to do with certain film adaptations of plays. drives me up the wall. one time i went to see the mahabharata (1990?) and it was so painful that i left. i couldn't leave bent because there were these telepathic (rather than telephone) sex scenes that were its only interesting moments. and there you have your gay film update courtesy of yours truly.(i'm trusting everyone saw Beautiful Thing and felt that mama cass vibe...) in any case, i'll be in manchester for the b&s shows enjoying cafe pop and the company of mr. sparkly orange. hope to met some list folk there... i'm over and out > dina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Fri Nov 28 09:47:52 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 09:47:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: slow graffiti Message-ID: <8025655D.0035A07D.00@bull.co.uk> um, my last couple of posts have been rather mean-spirited for which i can only apologise. think happy thoughts... think happy thoughts... slow graffiti was last night's session track and it was wonderful. still reminds me of 'laughing gnome' though. will post (my attempt at deciphering) the lyrics later. if i remember. there was some kind of 'picture of dorian grey' thing happening there, wasn't there? andy oh, adam and joe was / were good last week. it's on again tomorrow night. um, how come this happy mail was so much shorter than the ones where i did nothing but complain? 8) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Apologies if some one has already posted something with similar content. ------------------------------------------------------------ Rock Experimentalist Epic Soundtracks Dead At 37 Former Swell Maps co-founder influenced Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr and others. Pictured on cover of a recent album. Epic Soundtracks -- the pioneering drummer and keyboardist of the band Swell Maps whose influence was palpable among American rockers such as Dinosaur Jr's J Mascis and Sonic Youth -- was found dead in his London apartment on Saturday (Nov. 22). A cause of death has yet to be determined; a coroner's report is expected later this week. Soundtracks was 37. "They're not quite sure how long he was dead," said Tom Prendergast, a spokesman for Bar/None Records, the label for which Soundtracks recorded. He said authorities have not ruled out suicide as the cause of death for the musician, who was presumed to be in good health. The spokesman said he had not known Soundtracks to be depressed of late. Prendergast said he had spoken with Soundtrack's brother and partner in Swell Maps, Nikki Sudden, but said only that, "(Sudden) was very sad -- he was his brother." Soundtracks, born Paul Godley, formed Swell Maps at the tender age of 12 with Sudden in Solihull, England. The pair, along with bassist Jowe Head and guitarist Richard Earl, developed a reputation as confident experimentalists who loved the German avant-garde rock band, Can. Although the group recorded only two albums (A Trip to Marineville and Jane From Occupied Europe) before disbanding in 1980, they later proved to be quite influential, especially among American artists on the vanguard of punk and indie rock, including R.E.M. and Pavement. In the late-'70s, Soundtracks played with Mayo Thompson's reformed Red Krayola before moving on to play with Sudden again in a band known as the Jacobites. He also logged time as a drummer for Australia's Crime and the City Solution. Eventually, Soundtracks and his partner in Crime Rowland Howard (ex-Birthday Party) left to form These Immortal Souls, who issued Get Lost (Don't Lie!) in 1987 and reunited for I'm Never Gonna Die Again in 1992. When Soundtracks surfaced as a solo artist that same year, he abandoned his drum kit to refashion himself as a singer and songwriter, and enlisted many of the stars who he'd influenced to lend a hand. His first disc, Rise Above, featured contributions from Howard, Mascis and Sonic Youth's Lee Ranaldo and Kim Gordon. After releasing Sleeping Star 1994, Soundtracks embarked on a tour with the Lemonheads' Evan Dando. His most recent record, 1996's Change My Life, was produced by Primal Scream's Henry Olsen. A funeral for Soundtracks will be held in his hometown of Leamington Spa, England, on Monday Dec. 1). Chris Nelson [Tues., Nov. 25, 1997, 9 a.m. PDT] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 10:27:37 1997 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 10:27:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: What do we want? Cock Fun! When do we want it? Now! Message-ID: <199711281030.KAA17346@orange.easynet.co.uk> Doesn't look like anybody's reported back on the quiz last night, so I'll have a go. Last night at the John Snow pub, Team Cock Fun were cruelly robbed of pop quiz glory, missing out on first prize by one measly point. The team, which comprised David, Katrina, Susannah, Tag and Stephen, ruefully declared 'We wuz robbed! That was never Justine Frischmann!' Actually it was a very good night. We learnt Katrina's nick-name, discovered the full story behind David's velour hat fiasco, were treated to an epic knock-knock joke by Susannah, indulged in lots of scurrilous B&S gossip, argued over the elusive appeal of Mark Gardiner and threw peanuts at the quizmasters. It all bodes well for the proposed Manchester meet-up. Actually, there were lots of other listees there I didn't get a chance to speak to: Rob, Musdiq (sp?), Elizabeth from Scandinavia... well maybe you'll all be around in December. Stephen ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Fri Nov 28 11:02:22 1997 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:02:22 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199711281100.LAA17388@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> A friend at work has just told me he heard that B&S are playing a gig soon in Edinburgh. Anybody know anything about this? Cheers, John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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( and I quote) 'Maybe you have to be living here to appreciate just how welcome this kind of egoless homecooked whimsy is at the moment, but if you've heard the Oasis album, or seen the mass Disteria on TV, you can probably guess. Me, I'm going to sit the New Britain out with a couple of Belle and Sebastian EPs and a good book; it won't be long before we turn back into ourselves again' Seeing as some Hollywood studio has reportedly paid £££££ for the film rights to Nick's forthcoming book, maybe we should start lobbying him to include a B&S track on the soundtrack..... Actually, I've just realised that this review was posted on 14 Nov, so you may have already covered this on the list (I'm a newbie...) so apologies if you have. Incidentally, I wasn't surprised to hear that the 13th Note has taken over Ventura's old space, as it was a shit bar anyway... (although a friend of mine ran a sunday morning club there for a while back in 91, if anyone remembers that? there was free cereal and coffee, papers, board games and chiiled jazz/funk, and the flyer was based on the cinnamon toast crunch ceral box.... this was before games in clubs was fashionable as well...) s'all for now, mattxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mahmed at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 11:34:53 1997 From: mahmed at xxx.uk (mahmed at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 11:34:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: What do we want? Cock Fun! When do we want it? Now! References: <199711281030.KAA17346@orange.easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <347EAC5D.66A3@meto.gov.uk> stephen_troussée wrote: > > Doesn't look like anybody's reported back on the quiz last night, so I'll > have a go. > > Last night at the John Snow pub, Team Cock Fun were cruelly robbed of pop > quiz glory, missing out on first prize by one measly point. The team, which > comprised David, Katrina, Susannah, Tag and Stephen, ruefully declared 'We > wuz robbed! That was never Justine Frischmann!' The popquiz was a good laugh and rounded off an enjoyable evening. Our Team of 2 (ken ken sugoi hen) came 4th with 59.5 points. We consoled ourselves that we were average. Not too stupid that we are incapable of remembering anything. Also glad that we didn't win as I would have been frightened by the amount of trivia stored in my head. I'm happy that: 1. I do not know where Catherine Wheel hail from 2. I confused Justin Frischmamm with Miles Hunt 3. I do not know what the bass player of Cast looks like 4. I do not know the release dates of all the Beatles studio output I'm worried that: 1. I knew the peak chart position of 'Teenage Kicks' 2. I did not recognise a Nirvana song 3. I got a Frank and Walters question correct I note that the winning team all worked in record shops in Berwick Street. Not fair. We amateurs were up against professionals. I suppose they are the same sort of people who are fluent in Czech, but insist on signing up for a Czech for beginners course in order to feel smug and superior and show off. By the way, if the places were worked out as points per person; then we would have won on 29.75 points per person. The next highest would have been about 19 points/person. So our team won really. Enough consolation. Can someone enlighten me on the connection between b&s and Love's "Alone Again Or" please? Many thanks to the organisers and Katrina for advertising it. Mussadiq. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 12:08:31 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 12:08:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: HAPPY HAPPY DAY!, plus Elec. Renaiss. Message-ID: <199711281204.MAA21155@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> >TO ALL THE UK KIDS!!! >happy lancashire day!!!!!!!!! >(honestly, it is.) Just...don't, OK? I know I have to live here and you don't, but there's no need to rub it in;-). It's freezing cold, raining and miserable. Yes, folks, it's Lancashire, and it's not nice. Unlike Lancashire cheese, which is very tasty, actually. Oh, and black pudding. I can think of no sensible B&S link to Lancs, except of course the Manchester gigs and the mention of Liverpool in TSOTAF. Then again, neither Liverpool or Manc are in Lancs anymore, strictly speaking. And Widnes has always been in Cheshire, I think. On the subject of Electronic Renaissance, I couldn't give a damn abouit why or how it was written. I don't care too much about its genre (and I would agree that generically it's a bit if a mess). What I do care about is that it is a big beautiful welter of sound which gets me just _there_ (y'know?). I love it. It's a popsong and a damn good one, I'd say. Of course. Sir Duke, if you listen to it wanting a cutting edge phat-assed dance monster, you'll be disappointed. But did anyone ever make any claims for it being cutting edge? To criticise B&S for not making a noise like, say, Squarepusher (who was pretty much cutting wotsit around the time of TIgermilk, I'd guess) is like criticising the guitar songs for not being... I dunno, Ui or The Sea and Cake or whatever. It's pop music and it's all good, as they used to say. Of course, BelleanSeb, if you don't want to hear B&S do anything other than guitar-based pop, it's not gonna sound so great. Fair enough. No reason why you should like everything by any artist, and no reason why you shouldn't listen to them for what you want. I don't much care whether it's a spoof or a dig at 'easy to write' dance music. I'm reminded of McCarthy speaking scornfully of 'An MP Speaks', a shockingly gorgeous track on their first LP, saying they deliberately wrote sickly-sweet music for it and how it was musically weak etc. Not that I care(d) because I love(d) that song so much... For my part, I think Electronic Renaissance is straightforward damn brilliant because...I do. Although the line which says 'I'll go funkadelic' always confuses me. I can't think of a less funkadelic-like band than B&S. Lastly, I don't love B&S for their guitar-led brilliance. I love them for their brilliance. It may only be in my head, but there's a difference. If I type for much very longer, I'll be known as the boy who's always typing. 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`#T``0````4```!213H@`````!X`'0X! M````,````%-I;FES=&5R.B!(05!062!(05!062!$05DA+"!P;'5S($5L96,N M(%)E;F%I Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, stephen troussé wrote: > Last night at the John Snow pub, Team Cock Fun were cruelly robbed of pop > quiz glory, missing out on first prize by one measly point. The team, which > comprised David, Katrina, Susannah, Tag and Stephen, ruefully declared 'We > wuz robbed! That was never Justine Frischmann!' You think you was robbed? We put Justine Frischmann and got it marked wrong!! Okay, so we were never going to win anyway - it's the principle of it... but like the Murphy's... > Actually it was a very good night. We learnt Katrina's nick-name, > discovered the full story behind David's velour hat fiasco, were treated > to an epic knock-knock joke by Susannah, indulged in lots of scurrilous B&S > gossip, argued over the elusive appeal of Mark Gardiner and threw peanuts > at the quizmasters. It all bodes well for the proposed Manchester meet-up. > > Actually, there were lots of other listees there I didn't get a chance to > speak to: Rob, Musdiq (sp?), Elizabeth from Scandinavia... well maybe > you'll all be around in December. Love, Rob ...who is feeling very guilty today after forgetting to turn his stereo's alarm off before he went off to London, thus waking up half his college at five to seven with some very loud B&S... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 972286231 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 13:13:30 1997 From: 972286231 at xxx.uk (MR NICK SANT) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:13:30 GMT Subject: Sinister: Beatnik Glory and dance music In-Reply-To: <347DD5B6.69D677A5@colon.net.> Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 21:19:02 +0100 > From: PM - AU > To: B&S mailing list > Subject: Sinister: Beatnik Glory and dance music > Reply-to: PM - AU > stephen troussé wrote: > > > The indisputable Top Cat had a number of close friends who > > got to call him > > 'TC' (providing it was with dignity), but WHAT WAS THE > > NAME OF HIS BEATNIK > > PAL (you know, the one who wore a beret and shades)? > > > > Answers by next Monday, please. > > > Was it Benny? Hoping that no-one else has answered that but, i'm checking my mailbox in chronilogical order so if they have then sorry. Take Care, Love & Rage, Nick. (972286231 at 97.lincoln.ac.uk) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Fri Nov 28 13:33:44 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:33:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: What do we want? Cock Fun! When do we want it? Now! Message-ID: <01BCFC02.4090D920@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> > Can someone enlighten me on the connection between b&s and Love's "Alone Again Or" please? Their instrumental (ie, trumpet) solos both sound quite similar. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 13:40:40 1997 From: WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk (Rhys Williams) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:40:40 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: What do we want? Cock Fun! When do we want it? Now In-Reply-To: <347EAC5D.66A3@meto.gov.uk> Message-ID: <1CB19927010@NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK> > Enough consolation. Can someone enlighten me on the connection > between b&s and Love's "Alone Again Or" please? > Easy - trumpet solo. Rhys ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Fri Nov 28 13:45:05 1997 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 13:45:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: slow graffiti lyrics Message-ID: <8025655D.004B5163.00@bull.co.uk> yep, thoroughly bored this afternoon so: slow graffiti ------------- there's a portrait in a back room which i keep for days upon which i relent and gaze for hours on the muscle, skin and bone of some imaginary friend. so how about it? show me please how i will look in twenty years let me please interpret history in every line and scar that's painted there in front of me it doesn't matter what i'm thinking what i tell myself to do end of calling (<- this can't be right, surely) i stay in to defrost the fridge now the kid has gone to bed feeling of dread at least when she's around the trouble's there it's worse to wake up with her falling round the room listen johnny, you're like a mother to the girl you've fallen for and you're still falling. listen johnny, you're like a mother to the girl you've fallen for you're still falling and if they come tonight you roll up tight you take whatever's coming to you now do you think lamacq realises that you're meant to let one record stop before starting the next or opening your mike and prattling on about something that nobody really cares about? and when do you think he ate his last square meal? cos he looks like he'd snap if you looked at him too hard. i don't have to listen to him again after last night, ha ha ha. and is this first instance of fridge defrosting in the entire history of popular music? um, andreas, surely you mean '*the* picture of dorian gray'? 8) andy the guardian today calls hutchence australia's most famous rock star. what about nick cave? what about men without hats? and how could they forget rolf? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Fri Nov 28 15:58:42 1997 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 28 Nov 97 15:58:42 Subject: Sinister: misc stuff, some b&s Message-ID: <9711281512.AA8920@notesgw.compuserve.com> >Date: Thu, 27 Nov 1997 15:58:13 +0000 >From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET >Subject: Sinister: misc stuff, some b&s [.....] >and steve lamacq was worse than ever last night. i've >decided he must die... Even worse on Thursday of course. Not that I didn't like the Arab Strap song, but he seemed to have decided it would be really cool and just like a real DJ to attempt some kind of cack-handed segue that involved starting a new track what seemed like about half-way through the other. Now my tape sounds like I pressed STOP abruptly by mistake. He just doesn't care about the kids does he? Nick Dastoor Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Nov 28 15:12:01 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:12:01 GMT Subject: Sinister: Cock fun and fanny magic Message-ID: <3487de87.6015248@email.mcmail.com> Hello you lovely lovely people, The pop quiz - super cock fun was had by all. Except that I managed to leave my prize (rare promo of SFAs 'Man don't give a fuck') on the train back to the rainy city...dozy fool that I am. Other highlights: Susannah's shock revelation of her usual name for quiz teams (see above); Katrina's unexpectedly spirited defence of Michael Hutchence, me confusing Noel Gallagher's bum with Stuart Murdoch's (didn't recognise it with the lights on) and getting a clip round the ear from Katrina; and you forgot to mention Stuart's impromptu set with the Spice Girls on backing vocals and Morrissey on the eukelele, all those new songs, and the cover of 'It's raining men'. Or was that a dream I had. I get so confused.... Elsewhere, 34 messages, Lord-love-a-duck. Tim wrote... >Lastly, I don't love B&S for their guitar-led brilliance. I love >them for their brilliance. ...and I couldn't agree more, but Lancashire is not miserable, my ma and pa live there, and it's OK. And the cheese, is that the smoked cheddar?..Oh yesyesyes. Glad you've lost your cherry, Dina. Please tell me more about 'telepathic sex'. And 'Journey to the Polar Dreams' is without doubt the best name for a radio show I have ever heard. Especially when it's in Spanish. That's all. I'm off to the Land of Polar Dreams. I love each and every one of you Mr Sparkly Orange xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Fri Nov 28 15:19:02 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:19:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: record shops .... and things.. Message-ID: <199711281518.PAA23557@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> [help a poor art student] dont delay help me today! * please answer these six questions (say whatever you like) and send it back to me. tell me things and stuff... i promise love and goodwill to anyone who does reply. record shops and cultural enviroments. --------------------------------------------- 1) what do you people like about certain record shops ? 2) what is important (size of shop, people who work there, location, in store music, decor , listen booths ... ) ? 3) where do you shop (hmv virgin tower indie shops) ? 4) is it only price led ? 5) do you buy records tapes or cd's? 6) singles and/or albums ? ------------------------------------------------------------ um yes im in a panic. hand in on thursday. help help go on please. thank you so very much. .j 0n ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 15:29:47 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:29:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: HAPPY HAPPY DAY!, plus Elec. Renaiss. References: <199711281204.MAA21155@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <347EE36B.3DAC36AB@mail.zynet.co.uk> > On the subject of Electronic > Renaissance, I couldn't give a damn > abouit why or how it was written. I don't care > too much about its genre > (and I would agree that generically it's a bit > if a mess). What I do > care about is that it is a big beautiful welter > of sound which gets me > just _there_ (y'know?). I love it. It's a > popsong and a damn good one, > I'd say. yeah well, no real arguments there... just that listening again to TM on the car stereo to-ing and fro-ing from school four times a day this last week has made me change opinions on which tracks i like best at present, and ER is less liked at the moment... but what goes around, right? > Of course. Sir Duke, if you listen to it > wanting a cutting edge > phat-assed dance monster, you'll be > disappointed. But did anyone ever > make any claims for it being cutting edge? well see i wasn't arguing from that corner at all, i was arguing from the corner of IF the reason for writing ER was indeed as the suggestion had been (that Stuart wanted to show how simple it was to write a 'dance' record),then he'd not only kinda failed, but actually missed the point altogether. i was trying to show the spurious content of the IDEA, not commenting the nature of the song itself... > Lastly, I don't love B&S for their > guitar-led brilliance. I love > them for their brilliance. > It may only be in my head, but there's a > difference. totally agreed.... maybe i just didn't write clearly enough last time, which wouldn't surprise me this week at all. it's like Kevin said, 'there are only two types of music. the great and the not great'. Can't say fairer than that now, can you? Strangely natural, naturally strange... it all fits. dashing again, da duke. PS: new Salaryman remix EP (out on the 1st) is bloody marvellous.... -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Fri Nov 28 15:31:37 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:31:37 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: slow graffiti lyrics Message-ID: <199711281531.QAA28996@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Andrew Deen wrote ... >um, andreas, surely you mean '*the* picture of dorian gray'? Nope, I was referring to "A picture of Dorian Gray" by the * Television Personalities *, available on the "... and don't the kids just love it" album ... the loving kids know that they could have been bigger than the Beatles ... Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Fri Nov 28 16:02:17 1997 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:02:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: slow graffiti lyrics (NB&SC... surprisingly) Message-ID: <01BCFC17.013F3C20@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Andeas wrote: >Nope, I was referring to "A picture of Dorian Gray" by the * Television Personalities *, available on the "... and don't the kids just love it" album ... the loving kids know that they could have been bigger than the Beatles ... They always were, in my heart. >The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella >(Charles Baron Bowen) I'm familiar only with the Dog-Faced Hermans rendition. Which song was that in now? Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hodge at xxx.uk Sat Nov 29 00:59:46 1997 From: hodge at xxx.uk (Graham Hodge) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:59:46 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Not good news at all ... References: <347E9907.B216DC9C@easynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <347F6902.4A1D@mtl-herald.co.uk> Sad news about Epic notwithstanding, did you say *Galaxie* mailing list? Where? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 15:58:34 1997 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 15:58:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: record shops .... and things.. Message-ID: <199711281543.PAA26391@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Ahhhh This talk of favourite record shops has taken me back to the giddy days of my youth at Edinburgh uni and popping into Avalanche Records and ALWAYS finding something fantastic (and cheap)! Auld Reekie - mon amour sniff john xxx >---------- >From: .j 0n[SMTP:geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net] >Sent: 28 Nov 1997 15:19 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: record shops .... and things.. > >[help a poor art student] >dont delay help me today! > >* please answer these six questions (say whatever you like) > and send it back to me. > tell me things and stuff... > i promise love and goodwill to anyone who does reply. > >record shops and cultural enviroments. >--------------------------------------------- > >1) what do you people like about certain record shops ? > > > > > >2) what is important (size of shop, people who work there, location, >in store music, decor , listen booths ... ) ? > > > > > >3) where do you shop (hmv virgin tower indie shops) ? > > > > > > >4) is it only price led ? > > > > > > >5) do you buy records tapes or cd's? > > > > > > >6) singles and/or albums ? > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------ >um yes im in a panic. hand in on thursday. >help >help >go on >please. >thank you so very much. > >.j 0n >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 16:19:54 1997 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:19:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: HAPPY HAPPY DAY!, plus Elec. Renaiss. Message-ID: <199711281618.QAA24519@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> The Count of Catford said: > IF the reason for >writing ER was indeed as the suggestion had been >(that Stuart wanted to show how simple it was to >write a 'dance' record),then he'd not only kinda >failed, but actually missed the point altogether. >i was trying to show the spurious content of the >IDEA, not commenting the nature of the song >itself... fair enough. Incidentally, ER really reminds me of are those McCarthy dance remixes-b-side of This Nelson Rockerfeller?- which worked and didn't work in equal amounts. They, like ER, came as a real shock to me at first, but I grew to love some of them dearly, as I do ER. Also, I like a little hamfisted dabbling in other genres: like the early Happy Mondays' take on funk, or the Fatima Mansions' version of 'Shiny Happy People'. Doesn't always work, of course. Just ask Sting about reggae. Or jazz, for that matter. > >> Lastly, I don't love B&S for their > >> guitar-led brilliance. I love > >> them for their brilliance. > >> It may only be in my head, but there's a > >> difference. > >totally agreed.... maybe i just didn't write >clearly enough last time, which wouldn't surprise >me this week at all. Just to be clear, my comment was made in resopnse not to you, duke, but to belleanseb... >it's like Kevin said, 'there >are only two types of music. the great and the >not great'. Can't say fairer than that now, can >you? Strangely natural, naturally strange... it >all fits. There are only two types of music: drum and bass, and we got 'em both.... (This is an old c 'n' w joke, I understand). If there's a ton of garbage after this message, I will drown myself in the Clyde on Sunday. Cheerio Tim begin 600 winmail.dat M>)\^(AL0`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<` M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0 at 36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02``0`T````4D4Z(%-I M;FES=&5R.B!(05!062!(05!062!$05DA+"!P;'5S($5L96,N(%)E;F%I$@($E&3"!T%\$4`&%S`B`@_QBQ%U09P1=!&B0"T1%`&;\*=P40 M=`N`9R!%4KL>4!M@(`N``0`)@"`?(>$;`G-U9V<'D!Z0&X%[$.`8X&()X1OO M'/\:9"CG&P`8D`8`='4*P`5`'Q"3`C`?D71O&/!H;P?@^R5B`)!M"U`7T!Z` M'P,E(`\A;R)_'@@7T&$@)V0Q`'!C92<;,06A9"G>+!L!(,$J,!C@;AHP&$"@ M;FQY(&L?46$F[YLG_QID9 at MP)B!D+"$0KG4%0`#0)%%L*^%M!`&S)/(7P7!O M"X`O at 6PE(', at 8!L!HB4F'_-P"''_"&`$(`6@)-$8 M)!L!,?\S#^$:9$E$14$O0"N"!:#>;0>``C`U`Q?!;AB0"'#O%]`W%!CP`B!G M-W\XCS05XG01$&QF+C^`/*\]LQ\75"[A!<`)\`A at 9V@N_QK`*A`9(#;1+^(O M0![A&T'_+_(4`#`P'V`$(`>`&$(*P-L7T!L`;Q$0!=!C&(``("YH*_`I\T.S M>`>0+6)^+0"0`0`80A>P!``'L6S3&W((`&-K!)!F/U`F(/AR/RT>4$=@$-`> M4`6PGTA`'Z$?8$7`&2!N)R21]TEQ'T%!L'$OT1^P!&`8$?YS0B`7L4+Q%?!( M0![1+T#^8TM@*:$$("G`0U(E0D at P=R4230(%0&9!D""`+T1)WB`)P36A)3`) M`'8\0D1$[1L!;47`&U!R0N(?(4]P[F0E,![@/Z5!1\$O0$]POTQ3*<`5\`)` M)B$0X&U.P/<@@!^1*?!B`F`>HDK1&C#/,;%/@`GP%`!S.DQ$&P)!44, at 2&%P M<"OP3?,"("GP>7,J0`&03'$;@MT8$&LO0`6Q&P)&&)`'GHO0!BQ M_QKQ)!$`P`)`,UEYDP;8%/@0O%1XDI"V5`30B8%\&$494&0 M8V^S9'\:5F=U'H`*P"TO$?\A$`40+_`',"H10B%0`VBO_VF_&E90XV at 7:^IM M'VXO98Z^26&"*_`KPR$@2L)M*_#_%\`@\"]$,:(J,$U!<5]R;_\:5DH0`2!V M at 7$8/[]X'QID[R4 at 0K,?L`G"9#^!0B!TH?]U,F"@7L)*%BER>J][OQID_F,F M(%<#0<1,0&:1&O`'<;,O0$D&=6Q*,R`P1&%%M-F#_#>")(1L""<&(PDGA M-T^5#_\:-RN"F,-<@1AQA+-TL4%RWU6Q(_$#H"/S*X!W3,(A7[>:GQI5CJ$_ M&K`D0'(68?\_4"OP.X,'0#HQHJ0KX2"`_Z(3?A(>@)\?H"^612_P3K'_2[%Z M3Z5*%[$[P9:OE[A60%AD4&"@;X\27T]P&!`$@2"`2=$IIYM)WS!&0`@8%,"_P/PIR&KH"5P=7(_0DK" M&P+N0RO at 1O(#H%.P85?P/Z7^0Q?`!G$FU0=A8G\7% M```!`````0`````````>`!"`""`&``````#`````````1@`````XA0```0`` M``$``````````P`F```````#`(`0_____P(!^3\!````=`````````# References: <199711281531.QAA28996@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <3481ef83.9889014@email.mcmail.com> On Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:31:37 +0100 (MET), Andreas wrote: >Nope, I was referring to "A picture of Dorian Gray" by the * Television >Personalities *, available on the "... and don't the kids just love it" >album ... the loving kids know that they could have been bigger than the >Beatles ... Yes, yes, yes. And now Dan Treacey is a heroin addict living on a park bench, apparently. I could cry. Andreas, living in Hanover - do you know a girl called Pia Zaborowski? Mad and beautiful girl. Obsessive Smiths fan. My ex-. Married with a daughter now. Just wondered. Sorry everyone else Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 16:50:06 1997 From: WilliamsR10 at xxx.uk (Rhys Williams) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:50:06 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: record shops .... and things.. In-Reply-To: <199711281543.PAA26391@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Message-ID: <1CE42346834@NPRDCF1S.CF.AC.UK> > Ahhhh > > This talk of favourite record shops has taken me back to the giddy days > of my youth at Edinburgh uni and popping into Avalanche Records and > ALWAYS finding something fantastic (and cheap)! > Indeed! I remember walking in on a Saturday afternoon and finding the album I'd been looking for ever since I read an intriguing review in The List. I snapped it up straight away since I reckoned a) it'd be a classic, and b) it would soon be rare. I'm talking Tigermilk of course... Rhys ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Fri Nov 28 17:02:56 1997 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:02:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: record shops .... and things.. In-Reply-To: <199711281543.PAA26391@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 28 Nov 1997, Johnston, John CT wrote: > Ahhhh > > This talk of favourite record shops has taken me back to the giddy days > of my youth at Edinburgh uni and popping into Avalanche Records and > ALWAYS finding something fantastic (and cheap)! Avalanche? Terrible place. Work of the devil. I go in with a certain record in mind, and leave fifty quid worse off. Every time! Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | And then I woke up. "Phew," I said. "It was all a dream." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 17:31:05 1997 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:31:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Galaxie 500 mailing list Message-ID: <347EFFD9.63548298@easynet.co.uk> To subscribe to the Galaxie 500 mailing list send a mail to - listserv at aald.demon.co.uk - with either... ADD your at email.address galaxie for the full list or ADD your at email.address galaxie-digest for the digest I *think* you put your email thing in the subject (it's been so long since I did it), but I guess it won't hurt to put it in the main body of the message too. There's a g500 web page (well there's a few, but I've bookmarked this one) run by the same guy who runs the mailing list. The URL is http://www.aald.demon.co.uk/galaxie/index.html. I'm not the only one on this list and the g500 one BTW. cheers, yerluvinuncleturt. Graham Hodge wrote: Sad news about Epic notwithstanding, did you say *Galaxie* mailing list? Where? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hodge at xxx.uk Sat Nov 29 02:29:48 1997 From: hodge at xxx.uk (Graham Hodge) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 18:29:48 -0800 Subject: Sinister: turncoat Message-ID: <347F7E1C.3819@mtl-herald.co.uk> Kitty's jumping ship. What do we think about that? I think we should bombard her with good reasons to stay on the list. And don't forget to send them to her personal address in case she's already unsubbed. As Ron Pickering would say: Away you go! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 17:47:03 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 17:47:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: slow graffiti lyrics References: <199711281531.QAA28996@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <347F0397.FC90B0A5@mail.zynet.co.uk> Perfection As A Hipster wrote: > Andrew Deen wrote ... > > >um, andreas, surely you mean '*the* picture of > dorian gray'? > > Nope, I was referring to "A picture of Dorian > Gray" by the * Television > Personalities *, available on the "... and don't > the kids just love it" > album ... the loving kids know that they could > have been bigger than the > Beatles ... and a live version on the Creation flexi... along with a cover of 'Biff Bang Pow!'... marvelous? sure, sure... duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kyriakos at xxx.gr Fri Nov 28 17:56:15 1997 From: kyriakos at xxx.gr (Kyriakos HIZANIDIS) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:56:15 +0200 Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <347F05BF.C902D7F0@central.ntua.gr> unsubscribe * ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Fri Nov 28 18:30:04 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:30:04 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: and don't the kids just love it? Message-ID: <199711281830.TAA12379@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Nigel Turner replied ... >>Nope, I was referring to "A picture of Dorian Gray" by the * Television >>Personalities *, available on the "... and don't the kids just love it" >>album ... the loving kids know that they could have been bigger than the >>Beatles ... > >They always were, in my heart. I smiled all over until I read Robert's mail further below. Same here, even though I grew up with the Beatles and still appreciate them ... remember the reference in "All my dreams are dead" ? Could have been mine, "I must have cried for a week" ... >>The rain it raineth on the just >> >>(Charles Baron Bowen) > >I'm familiar only with the Dog-Faced Hermans rendition. Which song was >that in now? "The rain it raineth" ... available on the "Humans fly" LP, "Menschen fliegen" LP or the Konkurrel reissue CD ... no recommendation for fellow listees, though, far off from the B&S approch ... Honestly, never heard of anyone hailing both bands ... Robert McTaggart wrote ... >Yes, yes, yes. And now Dan Treacey is a heroin addict living on a >park bench, apparently. I could cry. Oh shit. PLEASE don't tell me that this is the truth. I've heard rumours about Dan being homeless ... but not heroin. First Epic Soundtracks and now this ... isn't there any anthusiast in London who may be of help ??? I can't believe this ... I've never felt more depressed ... >Andreas, living in Hanover - do you know a girl called Pia Zaborowski? >Mad and beautiful girl. Obsessive Smiths fan. My ex-. Married with >a daughter now. Just wondered. Nope ... you may know that Hannover is pretty dull ... "I live here for seven weeks now and I don't know anyone" ... well, not really, but certainly no Pia ... >Sorry everyone else I'm not. How can the British P!O!P! scene leave a pioneer such as Daniel Treacy behind ??? If only I had the money for a flight to London ... Spending the rest of the week listening to "The Painted Word" ... Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 19:11:33 1997 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 19:11:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: meets and adam and joe! Message-ID: I'm so glad you had a nice London meet! People up north, do you want to meet at a pop quiz somewhere? And lancashire is groovey! I'm in Peston, anyone from this a way going to Manchester gigs? And Dog Faced hermans?!?!? (or something), you're pulling my plonker. Seriously? I know people on his list know much more indie than me but c'mon! BTW THE ADAM AND JOE SHOW IS GENIUS!!! Just had to mention that. I have taped 'ball ball ball footie footie footie' from my TV and listen to it on the bus and piss myself laughing! I shall get locked away soon, I am v.sad I know! Does the guy who produces or something on their show subscribe? Could you mail me as I write a fanzine and I'd love to feature them in some way soon! please! and if they put expectations on all their tapes well they are even more godlike than they are already! au revoir mes amis!-- Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the.spod at xxx.com Sat Nov 29 21:04:29 1997 From: the.spod at xxx.com (Daniel Smith) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 21:04:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap/I've shhtarted sho I'll finishhhh, pal! Message-ID: <01bcfd0a$9bd8aca0$091642c2@mbge5dss.mcc.ac.uk> Incidentally is anyone going to see Arab Strap at Manchester Roadhouse on Monday? If you see a short 'strawberry blond' boy there, say hello, it's probably me. Sorry, I can't quite bring myself to describe my hair as 'ginger'. My sister was teaching her class of 5 year olds about hair colour, and this one kid said his hair was 'sparkly orange'. I like that. In Romania they say 'the red man is a bad man'. You know it. I'm bad. Love and kisses Sparkly Orange of Chorlton Yup I'll be one of those wonderful ppl there though scince you can only fit about five ppl in there I guess I'll see you there (is it sold out I don't have a ticket yet???) My hair is positively brown though what I could really do with is a tasty line in hats . Any suggestions anyone??? gotta go Chemical Brothers calls..... *sigh* so many gigs so little time :) Dan xxxx P.S. Does anyone know when Trembling Blue Stars new one is out (I heard second week of December????) P.P.S My depression is over :) women are wonderful again (not that I was a misogynist before) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plastik at xxx.com Fri Nov 28 21:33:28 1997 From: plastik at xxx.com (dina passman) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 16:33:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Cock fun and fanny magic References: <3487de87.6015248@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: <347F38A7.3C6@erols.com> Robert McTaggart wrote: > Glad you've lost your cherry, Dina. Please tell me more about > 'telepathic sex'. well, i want to start by thanking you for your response (nevermind the cherries. i prefer "morello"). i received only one more and that was on my private line. you think you're doing people a service, but alas... "telepathic sex" was perhaps not the most appropriate way of describing this. [to bring the topic around to the mailing list, it is certainly a technique that could be employed by the more imaginative when the dating serice a la cilla is initiated]. i will henceforth refer to the phenomenom as "hands-off non-phone sex". yes, that has a certain ring to it. the scenario : two people are standing next to each other, though not touching. they are both staring straight ahead, hands by their sides, and speaking to each other. x : i'm touching you. can you feel me? y : yes. i can feel you. x : my hands are on your chest. is it warming? y : yes, warming... x : i'm heading south. y : yes, i love the south. and so on and so on until it gets fairly steamy and such. there you go - "hands-off non-phone sex". please, everyone, try this technique and report back. anyway, what's this "lord-love-a-duck" business? you know we're all avid atheist vegetarians! shame on you, tag! as per mr. dan tracey, this is rather old news and no one is going to save a grown man from himself. duckless lordless loveless > dina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Nov 28 22:46:05 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 28 Nov 1997 22:46:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Poetry? Java? Message-ID: <347F49AD.99E0E2ED@totalweb.co.uk> it's just something that i discovered elsewhere, but i've been teaching myself Java and managed to get a Java Applett going of the famous fridge magnets game of Magnetic Poetry. i'm trying to customise it so that it's Belle and Sebastian orientated. so, if you've got a java enabled browser (Netscape 3 or above will do fine - IE doesn't handle Javascript or java as well, but it should still work), take a look at what we've currently set up, mail us back letting us know if you think it's any good and how long it took to work. and the important bit, i need 50 or so words and parts of words to use as the tiles, so any and all suggestions would be welcome. thanks david kitchen PS: it's currently at http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/test/ -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Fri Nov 28 23:32:59 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 00:32:59 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Loveless Message-ID: <199711282332.AAA24766@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> At 16:33 28.11.1997 -0500, dina passman wrote: >as per mr. dan tracey, this is rather old news and no one is going to >save a grown man from himself. News here, although songs such as "Far away and lost in joy", "As John Belushi said" and "Now that I'm a junkie!" provided for hints ... I don't know whether you have as much experience with heroin addicts, but I'd suggest the ability to save a grown man from himself is given ... sadly enough, today's society is apparently not willing ... "None of this will matter when you're dead" ... Some B&S content ... am I correct in assuming the following lyrics for "A century of fakers" ? "There are people going hungry far away They've got nothing on their plates And you're filling your fat face With every different kind of cake If you ever go lardy or go lame I will drop you straight away Well that's the chance you're gonna take For every stupid thing you say There are people going lonely And they'll stay Lonely far into the year" >duckless lordless loveless > dina "A stranger to myself" > andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plastik at xxx.com Sat Nov 29 06:20:14 1997 From: plastik at xxx.com (dina passman) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 01:20:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Loveless References: <199711282332.AAA24766@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <347FB41E.56E4@erols.com> Perfection As A Hipster wrote: > News here, although songs such as "Far away and lost in joy", "As > John Belushi said" and "Now that I'm a junkie!" provided for hints > ... I don't know whether you have as much experience with heroin > addicts, but I'd suggest the ability to save a grown man from > himself is given... sadly enough, today's society is apparently not > willing ... "None of this will matter when you're dead" ... andreas, heroin addicts...perhaps not, but i do teach in an inner high school and i see plenty of teenagers living in crappy situations : mothers on crack, fathers not there, siblings who are hiv positive, 14 year old mothers, drug-dealing, gun-toting bullshit. so if you are insinuating that i am part of a society unwilling when i spend 10 months of each year involved in the lives of these kids then you don't know who you are talking about. its certainly not me. over and out > dina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Smundy97 at xxx.com Sat Nov 29 11:28:42 1997 From: Smundy97 at xxx.com (Smundy97 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 06:28:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: pyschik warriors of shambling Message-ID: <971129062841_-1004187413@mrin51.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 28/11/97 9:08:44 pm, Andreas.Hering at stud.uni-hannover.de wrote: << >I'm familiar only with the Dog-Faced Hermans rendition. Which song was >that in now? >> Didn't the Dog-Faced Hermans do something which collapsed into the theme from Coronation Street played on a trumpet over their mad no-wave jazz type stylings - or was that another of my weird childhood dreams? Honestly, there's loads of things from when I was about 16/17 that I can't remember whether I imagined or not ... when I first heard The State I Am In (wow, B&S content!!!) I thought I recognised it from 1987 or something ... am I psychic or just stupid eg.... 1. All you good good Scottish people ... anyone remember a band called This Poison! and a song called Poised Over The Pause Button? 2. Who did a song (late 80s) called Let's Go Out - very upbeat, played by Peel 3. Did anyone else think that I Beg Your Pardon by Kon Kan was the greatest thing ever released for about ... oooooh ...... two weeks - what the hell was all that about? simon directing traffic on the disco floor ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Sat Nov 29 11:40:33 1997 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 97 11:40:33 GMT Subject: Sinister: Poetry? Java? References: <347F49AD.99E0E2ED@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <971129114033.n0005909.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Frantic red vision she runs To the forest, Black Mother "Here let all they who so ache Worship in my sweet mist" Only the delicate moon do cry Sad girl sit and lick your bloody dress. susannah at tormentor.clara.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Sat Nov 29 12:56:24 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:56:24 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Bromide Message-ID: I am. Winter's setting in and it's going to be a long one. Wars are starting up with no B&S content. Even Peter Miller's taken a break. So in a hopeless attempt to keep you all going: best B&S anagram. My favourite is: Bleed Satan Lesbian No cheating. Wouldn't catch me doing that. I'm ill, I've got an excuse, what's yours?? P mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Nov 29 13:22:15 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 13:22:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pyschik warriors of shambling References: <971129062841_-1004187413@mrin51.mail.aol.com> Message-ID: <34801706.DBFDB258@mail.zynet.co.uk> > 1. All you good good Scottish people ... anyone > remember a band called This > Poison! and a song called Poised Over The Pause > Button? ah This Poison!... recorded for the wedding present's 'reception' label and had a killer single called 'engine failure' which had penguins on the cover and on the labels said the time for both songs was '2.53'. they weren't of course, it was just some Pop notion that said the perfect Pop Song was that length... They were from Perth weren't they? home also to the occassionally wonderful Relations who were due to do a record on a label set up by ex-Jasminks man Adam Sanderson, but i dunno if it ever did appear :-( > 2. Who did a song (late 80s) called Let's Go > Out - very upbeat, played by > Peel could be well off target here, but i think it was The Very Things, who also did the very excellent 'Motortown'. > 3. Did anyone else think that I Beg Your Pardon > by Kon Kan was the greatest > thing ever released for about ... oooooh ...... > two weeks - what the hell was > all that about? no idea... you are speaking in tongues. B&S content? Is it just me or does the girl talking on the Arab Strap's 'themetune' on the 7" on Lissy's Label sound uncannily like Isobel or Sarah or whoever it is that talks at the end of 'I Could Be Dreaming'? Just a thought, and i have to say actually that i am currently totally enraptured by 'the strap'... listening to the Peel session stuff, and some 'live on radio one' material that my mate taped for me, and oooh, it's just so glorious. winding down to start up again. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sat Nov 29 14:33:51 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 14:33:51 GMT Subject: Sinister: are you feeling sinister? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <348527a0.2375542@email.mcmail.com> On Sat, 29 Nov 97 11:40:33 GMT, Susannah wrote: >Frantic red vision she runs >To the forest, Black Mother >"Here let all they who so ache >Worship in my sweet mist" >Only the delicate moon do cry >Sad girl sit and lick your bloody dress. Is everything OK, dear? and on Sat, 29 Nov 1997 12:56:24 +0000 (), Paul wrote >Winter's setting in and it's going to be a long one. Wars are starting up >with no B&S content. Even Peter Miller's taken a break. So in a hopeless >attempt to keep you all going: best B&S anagram. > >My favourite is: > Bleed Satan Lesbian Everyone's gone strange. Halloween was last month. How about 'Teased anal nibbles'? Beats Pringles anyway. Love Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Nov 29 16:19:17 1997 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 11:19:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Beatnik Message-ID: <971129111916_1672493645@mrin83.mail.aol.com> it's by Toby Litt is called Beatnik I thought this rang a bell... Last year or earlier this year we were at a John Cale show at the Supper Club in NYC, and met Toby Litt in the crowd. Shy little fellow in a black leather coat. My friend spent the evening talking to him and later regretting that she didn't offer to show him the city. She went all out to get his first book of short stories from the UK (it wasn't available here) and said it was great. She has Beatnik, but hasn't read it yet... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Sat Nov 29 18:13:28 1997 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 18:13:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Mogwai Message-ID: I'm just listening to "young team" for the first time...I've seen Mogwai mentioned on this list previously and I wondered if there is a B&S connection beyond nationality? Actually, they sound curiously like Bitch Magnet to me. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sat Nov 29 19:28:40 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:28:40 GMT Subject: Sinister: something very cool Message-ID: <34806c70.19993836@email.mcmail.com> Record collector. P147 (I think). That's all I'm saying. Mr S-O xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Nov 29 19:44:48 1997 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 29 Nov 1997 19:44:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: something very cool References: <34806c70.19993836@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: <348070B0.993C3C69@totalweb.co.uk> that's unfair! some of us don't have a copy or an available newsagents on a saturday night. so come on, what is it? a copy of tigermilk for sale? a higher price than £200? what? david kitchen -- Robert McTaggart wrote: > Record collector. P147 (I think). > > That's all I'm saying. > > Mr S-O xx ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamie.huxley at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 03:25:11 1997 From: jamie.huxley at xxx.uk (Jamie Huxley) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 03:25:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: "The closest thing to heaven is rock 'n' roll" Discuss ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nioannidis at xxx.gr Sun Nov 30 11:47:46 1997 From: nioannidis at xxx.gr (Nicholas Ioannidis) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:47:46 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Re: References: Message-ID: <34815261.4D917E29@ath.forthnet.gr> Define "heaven" first. Nicholas xox Jamie Huxley wrote: > "The closest thing to heaven is rock 'n' roll" > > Discuss > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 12:31:48 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:31:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: mogwai and b&s links References: Message-ID: <34815CB4.AB9F5486@mail.zynet.co.uk> Mike Newman wrote: > I'm just listening to "young team" for the first > time...I've seen Mogwai > mentioned on this list previously and I wondered > if there is a B&S > connection beyond nationality? dont think so, although with all that scottish bunch i wouldn't rule it out :-) > Actually, they sound curiously like Bitch Magnet > to me. nowt wrong with that now, is there? on subject of linkages and to bring up Arab Strap again (i had to...), who's heard the track ('i saw you'? 'soaps'?) that goes on about getting tickets from "Stuart to go and see his band Belle & Sebastian" and then the bit about the girl who is the object of his obsession being friends with "the girl who plays the cello"... ? cool, or what. duke. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 12:23:20 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:23:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: no more rock and roll for you (long and long winded... ooops) References: Message-ID: <34815AB7.141438A8@mail.zynet.co.uk> Jamie Huxley wrote: > "The closest thing to heaven is rock 'n' roll" > > Discuss not one to shrink from a challenge, although challenging a shrink may be a different matter altogether, here's me chipping in with probably a bit more than tuppence worth... first of all, i'm not even going to start thinking about notions of religious symbolism and reference. i'm not going to start deconstructing notions of 'heaven' in relation to culture, although it may well be a very interesting experiment. i'm going to stick to rock'n'roll. (actually i'm not, obviously...) secondly, i've been thinking a lot recently about the notion of Rock as oppossed to Pop. Actually i've been thinking of it the other way around, but what the hell. Having spent many years being pretty much a resolute supporter of a strain of musical reference which, to greater or lesser extent made a refusal of the genre of 'rock' (see early Kinks, Dexys, Vic Godard, Orange Juice, Postcard, Pale Fountains, the Esurient scene, Sha-La-La etc... ) and which celebrated the appeal of Pop (whilst never going so far as to define in strict delineations what Pop exactly was or was not, which was half the point of course...), i'm afraid i'm always going to have problems with this essentially tired and 'music paper'-led type idea that 'rock'n'roll' is some sacred cow which embodies revolutionary, spiritual enlightenment (okay, so there's a reference to equating culture with spiritual/religious imagery/language... i'm sorry). Vic Godard said something about how rock'n'roll was going well until (something like) 'Whole Lotta Shaking Going On' (tell me the real song, Tim...), and that it was downhill all the way from there. A strange, but strangely natural concept :-) Anyway, i kind of agree with him. See, i think that rock'n'roll in it's natural phase was essentially Pop. No more, no less. Go read Nik Cohn's amazingly inspirational 'awopbopaloobop awapbamboom' for proof, if it's proof that you need. But it started going downhill when it became an industry in and of itself, when it became more than a passing fad of culture, when it became apparent that the cult of teenage was being seen by some as not simply a phase to pass through in the process of becoming an adult, but a state of mind and being to sustain and to use in the creation of new ways of living. A new way to do things. Which was essentially Pop, and so this disintegration of Rock'n'roll into Pop was also it's saviour. So what do i mean by Pop, as oppossed to rock'n'roll then? Well simply this: that the moment to which we return in and through our consumption of culture (and musical culture in particular) is essentially a moment (or sequence of moments that blur into one recognisable period) that embodies the excitement of initial realisations, in other words; the excitement of discovery. It is this feeling which is essentially adolescent, which ties us to the idealisation of teenage, of being 16, which is an arbritrary moment in age, but which nonetheless symbolises this concept as closely as required. I don't mean that we need to read music and culture as having to be about being 16 to be Pop, but rather that, should a piece of music strike the correct chord (as it were!) at a particular moment, then that piece is, for that moment, Pop. It struck me the other night actually as we were coming home from school, listening to the live on radio one version of 'The Clearing' by Arab Strap. It was clear that in so many respects the noise should be described as being Rock, and yet, it was sending the shiver along my spine, making me so excited that i was close to tears, elucidating that essential IT that made me realise that indeed, this was a classic Pop moment. You know; you want to kiss the skies, you want to explode in a pyrothechnic display of other-worldly colour. Just so. Which is, essentially, why Belle & Sebastian are also so resolutely Pop, as opposed to rock'n'roll, despite what some band members might want to argue about their 'rock' influences... because in my book (quite literaly soon, i should hope!), those rock'n'roll icons are actually Pop Icons. Pop Icons because, obviously, the nature of the celebration of personality and artefacts as objects of importance is the personal collection of momentoes. It's the Bruce Dickinson/Paul Morley thing again: "ALL musics will be remembered as simply a collection or gathering of little moments." We might agree on the importance of some moments, we might not. Here we may agree on the repeated listenings to 'Sinister' or 'Tigermilk', the Union Chapel, (or simply the first time you saw them play)... others may agree on 'Stairway to Heaven' and Deep Purple. Yes, even. And to those people, i argue that those moments are Pop, even though they will prefer to call them Rock (and that is their prerogative), if only for the simple fact that the personal nature of music and it's criticism must essentially be derived from the individual voice, the individual experience, the individual emotional response to the stimulant. So: rock'n'roll the closest thing to heaven? NO NO NO. But Pop as Personal Religion? Um, yeah, sure, why not... Oh yeah, and before anyone now starts pointing and accusing me of being overly analytical of all of this, i just want to point out that, as Tim and I both attempted to state earlier this week in the ER thread; i love a musical piece (cultural artefact) BECAUSE I DO. The above type of analysis and (pedantic?) critique is offered because i like to think about reasons for things... i like to have opinions. Also because it's a fun way to spend an hour or so on a sunday morning (whilst listening to Josef K...) no longer dashing quite so much, the duke. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 13:32:03 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:32:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Rock and pop? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Jamie Huxley wrote: > "The closest thing to heaven is rock 'n' roll" > > Discuss > Rock 'n' roll is surely by definition happy, upbeat music. It is designed to cheer people up. That's why it was named after sex; it's a joyful occasion, a brief moment of euphoria, something that makes your life a more enjoyable thing to inhabit. That's why I have problems with refering to pop music generally as rock 'n' roll. Good music needn't be cheerful - indeed it can cheer you up without being cheerful in itself - but then it comes under another category. So rock 'n' roll is what the writer of the song thinks heaven should be like, eternal happiness and all that; but it won't transport you to heaven in the first place. The problem I think is that there are so many different (and usually contradictory) labels for the same music. Maybe this is just a British thing, the desire to find a name for every conceivable type of music, but when the different genres inevitably merge, what do you call it then? So I don't think it is possible to differentiate between rock and pop (ie popular) music. However I do think you can differentiate between rock and POP! (ie deliberately populist) music. That's why B&S would say they had rock influences, because they have never written music purely because they think it will be popular (as people like the Spice Girls or Wet Wet Wet do); they write it because they like it, it does something for them. There seems to be a great confusion over what pop means, because someone like Radiohead are popular without being populist. Similarly Bon Jovi produce populist rock, whereas Iron Maiden simply produce popular rock. There are no clearcut definitions, no exact opposites; which is why whenever you hear somebody slagging off a band for being pop or whatever, you have to be very careful what they mean. Forgive my ramblings, forgive me if I appear to have contradicted myself, but I think things like this are very hard to put into words; music is all about feelings, which by their very nature are hard to describe. I just think it's worth trying. Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Sun Nov 30 13:52:50 1997 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 13:52:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jools rules Message-ID: <199711301352.NAA11972@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> does anyone know if b+s will be on later with jools holland next week? thanks .j 0n ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 15:20:09 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 15:20:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Rock and pop? References: Message-ID: <34818429.4C031AC0@mail.zynet.co.uk> Stuart Gardiner wrote: > On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Jamie Huxley wrote: > > > "The closest thing to heaven is rock 'n' roll" > > > > > Discuss > > > don't think it is possible to differentiate > between rock and pop (ie > popular) music. However I do think you can > differentiate between rock and > POP! (ie deliberately populist) music. argh! So now we also have a distinction between Pops!! Phew... i'm not into it though. Not at all. I don't define Pop as being a shortened version of anything, be it 'popular' (where do you define the line between not popular and popular? is it in terms of 'sales', if so, what number?) nor 'populist' (by whose definition? is this also tied to sales figures? if B&S then go in to sell millions of record are they too 'populist'?). It's simply(?) a personal evaluation of the state you might be in a certain moment, in response to a stimulant.... usually aural :-) And i happen to believe it's to do with what i talked about before... > That's why B&S would say they had > rock influences, because they have never written > music purely because they > think it will be popular (as people like the > Spice Girls or Wet Wet Wet > do); they write it because they like it, it does > something for them. this is cruelly unfair on Spice Girls or Wet Wet Wet, because who are you to say that when they write or perform a song it is not also 'doing something for them'? Or to the fans who embrace their noises and who also will tell you that the noise 'does something for them'? Are you calling these people stupid simply because they don't like the same music as you do? Dangerous ground... > There > seems to be a great confusion over what pop > means, because someone like > Radiohead are popular without being populist. ah, but they ARE... because by their very actions they conform to a set of fairly strictly written traditional rock rules. They also sell a lot of records... > Similarly Bon Jovi produce > populist rock, whereas Iron Maiden simply > produce popular rock. There are > no clearcut definitions, no exact opposites; but there ARE clear distinctions and exact opposites, the point is that everyone has their own idas about what they are, because everyone defines their Pop for themselves, regardless of sales figures and perceived ideas about the reasons for an artefact being produced in the first place. > Forgive my ramblings, forgive me if I appear to > have contradicted myself, contradictions are intrinsic to Pop, you have to embrace them for it to make any sort of sense... i discovered this as i grew older :-) > but I think things like this are very hard to > put into words; music is all > about feelings, which is why the definitions about what makes a certain noise 'Pop' or not is entirely personal, and why global distinctions are ultimately irrevelvant. > I just > think it's worth trying. ditto. and the very fact that we try is surely proof of our continued delight at the fact that noise can make us so excited and inspired. long may it continue! keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamie.huxley at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 15:54:59 1997 From: jamie.huxley at xxx.uk (Jamie Huxley) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 15:54:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: i am very grateful for the lengthy and detailed discussions upon "rock 'n' roll" and its relative proximity to heaven. however, i feel that certain arguments quickly became tied to an attempt to distinguish between rock and roll and pop. this, at least in my mind at the time of conception, was not the intended focus. i took it in its broader and more nebulous sense - music. the reason i say this is becase of its context; it is of course a lyric from Aztec Camera's "Somewhere in my Heart". i may be wrong, but i feel that the intensity and dynamism of this particular section of the song transcends the issue differentiation that was so eloquently, but perhaps wrongly, dwelt on. if indeed, music is to remembered as "little moments", i believe the value of the moment should be respected. i believe that during the moment when this particular lyric was penned, and then fused with the music, the moment was all-encompassing and universal, panoramic and devoid of judgement. in any way perhaps we should wonder why "this ain't the planet of sound" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamie.huxley at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 16:20:25 1997 From: jamie.huxley at xxx.uk (Jamie Huxley) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:20:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: this is entirely unrelated to the band, i apologise if its irrelevance is an abuse. Its just that i have a friend who is a first-year sociologist at Exeter. He has never replied to one of my Emails, and i find it distressing. The cheeky favour i ask is if any one has the time to waste, could they Email O.R.E.Brann at exeter.ac.uk and tell him to email Jamie. sorry. ps, any one is at a Royal Holloway, or has ever contacted an undergrads there by Email, could they explain how you locate addresses, becuause i can't do it at all. jimmy jazz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PMA97CW at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 16:20:45 1997 From: PMA97CW at xxx.uk (Chris Worth) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 16:20:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: record collector... Message-ID: record collector 147? i take it that's the december issue? i spent all friday reading, ingesting and digesting every advert / set sale / auction in there and only recall coming across Tigermilk once, and that was in a record shop's 'wanted' ad, i'm sure. as i remember, although this may be wrong, they were offering £65 for a mint condition copy. i'm afraid i don't recall coming across a copy for sale, although again i am probably very very wrong. "rock 'n' roll is the closest thing to hell" Discuss. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sun Nov 30 17:15:53 1997 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:15:53 GMT Subject: Sinister: sorry to raise your hopes Message-ID: <34849e38.7815140@email.mcmail.com> Err.... Since some of you have got all excited about record collector and assumed it was a tigermilk thing it isn't. It was just a thing about the French TV series with a picture of a record sleeve entitled 'Belle et Sebastien et les oiseaux'. I thought it was cute, that's all. Love Tag (tired and with three film reviews to write by tomorrow morning) Oh, by the way. I don't buy record collector, it was shown to me by someone else. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 17:12:14 1997 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:12:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: References: Message-ID: <34819E6E.B58F27AA@mail.zynet.co.uk> Jamie Huxley wrote: > i am very grateful for the lengthy and detailed > discussions upon "rock 'n' > roll" and its relative proximity to heaven. > > however, i feel that certain arguments quickly > became > tied to an attempt to distinguish between rock > and roll and pop. this, at > least in my mind at the time of conception, was > not the intended focus. the beauty of email discussion is once you hit that send button, it's out of your jurisdiction and people will take it wherever they will... this is something i love with a passion :-) > i took it in its broader and more nebulous sense > - music. the reason i say > this is becase of its context; it is of course a > lyric from Aztec Camera's > "Somewhere in my Heart". i may be wrong, but i > feel that the intensity > and dynamism of this particular section of the > song transcends the issue > differentiation that was so eloquently, but > perhaps wrongly, dwelt on. > if indeed, music is to remembered as "little > moments", i believe the value > of the moment should be respected. it seems to me that we're arguing to the same end point around a nebulous phrase. i wholeheartedly put my hand in the air and plead 'guilty' to making distinctions in my own interpretation of my moments, and make the arbritrary choice of the word 'Pop' over 'rock'n'roll' simply because Vic Godard made such a strident point about it, and that someone like Lawrence also made the same choice. referential reverence... which is entirely Pop because Pop is obsessive, and is obsessively about the moment of transendence... it's always about reaching (back) to That Moment / That Feeling. Call it what you want... but i don't think that just saying 'music' is enough. 'music' is just the empty potential, because not all music makes me feel That Feeling. You need to make the distinction between that which does, and that which does not. You might, as Kevin Pearce has said, say simply 'Great' or 'Not Great', but i don;t think that's expressive enough. I choose the word Pop because i feel it annoys enough people, and because it sounds right! :-) are we through yet? the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Oxyura12 at xxx.com Sun Nov 30 17:52:50 1997 From: Oxyura12 at xxx.com (Oxyura12) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 12:52:50 EST Subject: Sinister: terry underwear and all that Message-ID: Jamie leave us alone; we are not your tool. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From psm at xxx.net Sun Nov 30 18:23:34 1997 From: psm at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 18:23:34 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, Jamie Huxley wrote: > this is entirely unrelated to the band, i apologise if its irrelevance > is an abuse. Its just that i have a friend who is a > first-year sociologist at Exeter. He has never replied to one of my > Emails, and i find it distressing. The cheeky favour i ask is if any one > has the time to waste, could they Email O.R.E.Brann at exeter.ac.uk and tell > him to email Jamie. sorry. It is - please don't. This band is for B&S and not to vent your spleen. The last thing we want is to be mailbombed because I'll have to pull the list. Email revenge just doesn't work. Also your message will go into the archive - I don't intend to censor it. So please ignore this daft suggestion. Paul mailto:owner-sinister at majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Sun Nov 30 19:15:57 1997 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 20:15:57 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Re: P!O!P! Message-ID: <199711301915.UAA23477@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> The duke of harringay wrote ... >I choose the word Pop because i feel it annoys enough people, and because it sounds right! :-) < P!O!P! = Particoloured Offbeat Phonology = Pleasure! Obsession! Passion! Ehrm ... just a thought ... Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 19:30:28 1997 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 19:30:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Rock and pop? In-Reply-To: <34818429.4C031AC0@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sun, 30 Nov 1997, the duke of harringay wrote: > > don't think it is possible to differentiate > > between rock and pop (ie > > popular) music. However I do think you can > > differentiate between rock and > > POP! (ie deliberately populist) music. > > argh! So now we also have a distinction between > Pops!! Phew... i'm not into it though. Not at > all. I don't define Pop as being a shortened > version of anything, be it 'popular' (where do you > define the line between not popular and popular? > is it in terms of 'sales', if so, what number?) > nor 'populist' (by whose definition? is this also > tied to sales figures? if B&S then go in to sell > millions of record are they too 'populist'?). What I meant by populist was people writing (and releasing) songs purely because they know that it will sell. A couple of years ago there were loads of boy bands doing just that; because Take That sold millions of records in Britain, other people copied their formula (in some cases very successfully). Whether they sold any records as a result is irrelevant - the point is that that was their sole intention behind writing the song. If B&S sell millions of records, that will not make them populist; but if they did it by writing ropey ballads and going all-out for mass expoure on the basis that it worked for the Spice Girls, then that would make them populist. (Choirboy Belleandseb, bus driver Belleandseb, sporty Belleandseb... can you imagine it?) Where exactly one defines popular is always going to be arbitrary (personally I'd have said getting on mainstream TV), but I don't think it really matters; I don't have a problem with popular. But I do have a problem with the unoriginality, naivity etc of being overtly populist, something which thankfully noone could accuse B&S of. > > That's why B&S would say they had > > rock influences, because they have never written > > music purely because they > > think it will be popular (as people like the > > Spice Girls or Wet Wet Wet > > do); they write it because they like it, it does > > something for them. > > this is cruelly unfair on Spice Girls or Wet Wet > Wet, because who are you to say that when they > write or perform a song it is not also 'doing > something for them'? Or to the fans who embrace > their noises and who also will tell you that the > noise 'does something for them'? Are you calling > these people stupid simply because they don't like > the same music as you do? Dangerous ground... I know I'm not in the best position to judge the motives behind the writing of a song. But I distinctly remember an article in the Melody Maker back in September in which some of Wet Wet Wet were saying that they didn't even like their music much themselves, they made it because Marti Pellow's voice sold lots of records using that kind of music. And I think that sucks. Stuart G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From JSwinea at xxx.com Sun Nov 30 20:03:55 1997 From: JSwinea at xxx.com (JSwinea at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 15:03:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Rock and pop? Message-ID: <971130150354_1981911815@mrin85.mail.aol.com> In a message dated 97-11-30 08:36:29 EST, skg21 writes: << Rock 'n' roll is surely by definition happy, upbeat music >> Oh geez, I agreed with much of what you said,but I can't really buy into this statement. First of all, I don't see any point in confining any art, including popular art, to one emotion. That's pretty stifling. I think, if anything, Rock 'n' roll is closer to alienation by definition. Secondly, there are examples throughout the past to contradict the notion that it need to be happy music to be Rock. Bob Dylan was at his best and rockin'est in the 60s when he was smart, angry, and full of contempt. Brian Wilson was at his best when he was sad with songs like "Caroline No" and "I Just Wasn't Made For These Times". And Westerberg, he was at his best when he was happy, furious and depressed. Now that he's completely happy he pretty much sucks. I think Lester Bangs pretty much nailed what Rock 'n' Rolls' all about and how it relates to "heaven" when he wrote,"The politics of rock 'n' roll, in England or America or anywhere else is that a whole bunch of kids want to be fried out of their skins by the most scalding propulsion they can find, for a night they can pretend is the rest of their lives, and whether the next day they go back to work in shops or boredom on the dole or American TV doldrums in Mom 'n' Daddy's living room nothing else can cancel the reality of that night in the revivifying flames when for once if only then in your life you were blasted outside of yourself and the monotony which defines most life anywhere at any time, when you supped on the lightning and nothing else in the realms of the living or dead mattered at all." joe ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 21:20:10 1997 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: 30 Nov 1997 21:20:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: jools rules In-Reply-To: <199711301352.NAA11972@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <68DC76C0.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> > does anyone know if b+s will be on later with jools holland next > week? > > thanks > > .j 0n Nope sadly not this coming Saturday you can sample the delights of Ocean Colour Scene(oh for a small controlled explosion) , Jamiroquai & Steve Earle, Cornershop & Kristin Hersh. Then week after you've got BB King, Blur, Gabrielle & more TBC. I take it as B&S couldn't do yesterdays show they trawled the streets of Glasgow & found Superstar begging for change on a street corner? steve -- You must be zen, you must listen for the colour of the sky, look for the sound of the hummingbirds wing & search for the perfume of ice on a hot summers day. If you have found these things, you will know & in response to someone asking you "how come you sense these things?" simply answer "how come you do not?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamie.huxley at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 21:24:52 1997 From: jamie.huxley at xxx.uk (Jamie Huxley) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:24:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: sorry. i never wanted anyone to be my tool. i was foolish. it will never happen again. please forgive me. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Sun Nov 30 21:14:38 1997 From: johnj at xxx.com (J Jackson) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 21:14:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: wibble In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19971130211438.00693854@mail.u-net.com> >perhaps we should wonder why "this ain't the planet of sound" "this ain't no fuckin' around!" I have listened to the Pixies for most of the 12 hours I spent driving this weekend up to Manchester and back again. I love them. Whoever was asking about Let's Go Out, it was indeed by The Very Things who, as someone else said, did indeed do This Is Motortown which was ace and also Mummy You're A Wreck which is scary. I bought the Cornershop album the other day, it is graet too! I'm bluudy graet! And two marmoite sandwiches please! JJ xx ______________________________________________ You can stay all day, if you want to ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Sun Nov 30 22:17:19 1997 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 17:17:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: websiteandwest54th Message-ID: <971130171719_222476116@mrin52.mail.aol.com> "Cybersurfing" turns up some interesting things - here's a web page which has some interesting interpretations of Belle and Sebastian album covers: http://members.aol.com/Fakeperson/index.html Regarding the Sessions at West 54th thing...BandS were supposed to be on on Dec. 27th, but now, in checking their web site (www.sessionsatwest54th.com) it looks like they've been replaced with an encore broadcast of kd lang. Is it time to start a letter writing campaign? yummycats ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sun Nov 30 23:55:14 1997 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Sun, 30 Nov 1997 23:55:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hey Message-ID: <199711302242.WAA00246@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> hey there on the list > > I am new and have joined this list because I just love Belle and > Sebastian! > > They are my favourite band. > > My vital stats are England (near Heathrow - Ashford), 17, male, > student > > My fave Belle and Sebastian songs are Dog on Wheels, Seeing other > People, La Pastie de la Bouregeosie and Lazy Line Painter Jane > > I also like Radiohead (seen em twice this year at the secret fan > club gig and also at Brighton) My fave RH song is 'Motion Picture > Soundtrack' (an unreleased song) I also like Catatonia (saw em in > London last month), Spritiualized, Stone Roses, SFA, Blur, > Portishead and loads others > > And just for the record I think Elvis was shite (most overrated > singer in history?) and in the song he is a cat............. > > Anyone gonna say hello to me? > > Northy from the paw of the pink panther or just Northy being escapist? _________________________________________________ ``A man is as old as the women he feels.'' - Groucho Marx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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