Sinister: SImon Reynolds and B&S

Hopkins T t.hopkins at xxx.uk
Thu Nov 13 15:57:00 GMT 1997


	From the duchy of harringay a wire messenger emerged:

> just been reading simon reynolds 1989(?) book
> 'blissed out' and reading again about the whole
> dreampop thang, and ohhh, i still like that whole
> loop bit, but spacemen 3?  and the excuses
> reynolds makes for prog rock... hmmm.  dubious.
> wonder what he'd make of belle & sebastian?
> 
	Aside from 'Blissed Out', which I found fairly cheaply recently,
the last thing I remember Reynolds writing was that we had had enough
(too many?) fantastic songs and that what music needed was a load of
noise that superceded the song (he wouldf justify such babble by going
on about 'jouissance' and 'the demolition of self' and suchlike which is
all very well until you realise he's doing it because, basically, he
likes the Young Gods).

	No doubt he'd hate Belle and Sebastian for the reason that they
are the best songwriters operating in the whole of pop music today. Or
he'd slip into the easy stereotype of calling them twee and childlike
and then bung that stuff about how the whole enterprise is the pop music
version of anorexia, which I always thought was a duff argument (to
broadly  summarise, he said that anorexia was all about refusing one's
status as an adult and the consequent pressures and responsibilities of
the world; he then identified Talulah Gosh as doing the same thing).

	I'll shut up

	TimH

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