Sinister: HAPPY HAPPY DAY!, plus Elec. Renaiss.

Fri Nov 28 12:08:31 GMT 1997

	>TO ALL THE UK KIDS!!!

	>happy lancashire day!!!!!!!!!
	>(honestly, it is.)


	Just...don't, OK?
	I know I have to live here and you don't, but there's no need to
rub it in;-).
	It's freezing cold, raining and miserable. Yes, folks, it's
Lancashire, and it's not nice. 

	Unlike Lancashire cheese, which is very tasty, actually. Oh, and
black pudding.

	I can think of no sensible B&S link to Lancs, except of course
the Manchester gigs and the mention of Liverpool in TSOTAF. Then again,
neither Liverpool or Manc are in Lancs anymore, strictly speaking.
	And Widnes has always been in Cheshire, I think.

	On the subject of Electronic Renaissance, I couldn't give a damn
abouit why or how it was written. I don't care too much about its genre
(and I would agree that generically it's a bit if a mess). What I do
care about is that it is a big beautiful welter of sound which gets me
just _there_ (y'know?). I love it. It's a popsong and a damn good one,
I'd say.
	Of course. Sir Duke, if you listen to it wanting a cutting edge
phat-assed dance monster, you'll be disappointed. But did anyone ever
make any claims for it being cutting edge? To criticise B&S for not
making a noise like, say, Squarepusher (who was pretty much cutting
wotsit around the time of TIgermilk, I'd guess) is like criticising the
guitar songs for not being... I dunno, Ui or The Sea and Cake or
whatever. It's pop music and it's all good, as they used to say.

	Of course, BelleanSeb, if you don't want to hear B&S do anything
other than guitar-based pop, it's not gonna sound so great. Fair enough.
No reason why you should like everything by any artist, and no reason
why you shouldn't listen to them for what you want.

	I don't much care whether it's a spoof or a dig at 'easy to
write' dance music. I'm reminded of McCarthy speaking scornfully of 'An
MP Speaks', a shockingly gorgeous track on their first LP, saying they
deliberately wrote sickly-sweet music for it and how it was musically
weak etc. Not that I care(d) because I love(d) that song so much...

	For my part, I think Electronic Renaissance is straightforward
damn brilliant because...I do. Although the line which says 'I'll go
funkadelic' always confuses me. I can't think of a less funkadelic-like
band than B&S. 
	Lastly, I don't love B&S for their guitar-led brilliance. I love
them for their brilliance.
	It may only be in my head, but there's a difference.

	If I type for much very longer, I'll be known as the boy who's
always typing.

	Lateron
	Tim


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