Sinister: why this is important?
Hopkins T
t.hopkins at xxx.uk
Wed Oct 29 14:36:04 GMT 1997
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From: duke of harringay [SMTP:tangent at xxx.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 1997 10:11 AM
To: sinister at majordomo.net
Subject: Re: Sinister: why this is important?
>but you won't be moved by it so much if you hear
it on the 'populist' radio because it's no longer
difficult to find. I maintain that part of the
beauty of the musics that 'we' like is the
relative obscurity, the fact that actually we
probably have to work pretty hard to get it, find
it, whatever. If it's easy we often just don't
bother. I don't mean this to sound snobbish or
whatever, it's just more to do with the thrill of
the expedition than the discovery itself. (and i'm
generalising of course!)
I do know what you mean about this but I think that there's a
lot to be said for straightahead commercial pop music as entertainment.
It's just a different kind of pop thrill to the one you get when you
find some unheard of gem and set out to tell the world about it. I love
that latest Janet Jackson single, for example, but to expect it to mean
to me what 'Expectations' does is like asking Coronation Street to be
The Graduate or something. Different fun.
But yeah, as Tom waits once said, the obsession's in the chasing
and not the apprehending...
ah, but this is what i found so special about B&S,
the very fact that i'd kind of given up hoping
that such music WOULD affect me in this way.
Me too. I genuinely believed I had grown too old and fat and
cynical and so the pleasure in finding Belle and Sebastian was immense.
And so I also end up transferring to them my hopes and dreams
for the perfect pop group. A pop group who can inspire the kind of
creativity which the Sex Pistols did. As I said in my previous post,
this is probably unfair and expecting too much.
But, BUT, I know how far pop music has inspired me to look at my
own life as something more than time to be filled in before it all ends,
I know how far pop has helped me to try to be creative in the way I act
and think and feel. And I know that pop can do this on a massive scale
(it just so happens that most of the bands which did these things for me
happen to have been deep, deep underground). And I think that B&S have
the potential to be such a band. Which is why I'm desperate to see them
do everything they can to take that chance, to make it happen.
And that definitely means finding a new way to deal with the
music industry which flattens and deadens its product, inevitably aims
at the existing mainstream.
And writing all this I'm reminded of The Pop Group's 'We Are All
Prostitutes', and find myself hoping once again that this is where
despair stops and tactics begin.
> but i think
that 'selling out' would be to start giving
concessions to the media and record company
bosses, not spreading the word and getting people
to buy their records.
Totally...
> I think Tim misunderstood
Oops:-)
about what i said about Tigermilk too, i was
saying that i could SEE that happening, not that i
wanted it to. I was kind of being cynical,
assuming, unkindly perhaps, that b&s will end up
like our other hopes, capitulating to the record
company whims and wishes. And assuming unduly i
hope...
Me too. And there I go just taking things to literally again.
Sorry, dukester. I should have known better.
again, sorry for the length of this one folks. Or
the two folks that read it. Hi Tim.
Alright fella?
Keepin' the faith in a box by my bed,
TimH
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