Sinister: youth movements and stuff
chris skudder
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>Genevieve wrote:
>
>> well,honestly..i don't think there is a big big movement with belle
and
>> sebastian type youth...well,maybe there is in little unknown ways...
>
>I actually think there is a movement going on, which we are part of.
It's
>not about trying to change the world by smashing the system or
anything,
>it's about tolerance and generally being nice to people. In a way it's
the
>antithesis of the punk movement. Sure, the world isn't the best place
on
>earth, but by friendliness, humility and consideration we can make it
>better. And the great thing about it is that you can see results
>immediately - just by being kind to someone you can make them happier.
It
>is very different from previous 'youth' movements in that it is
locally,
>rather than globally, minded which is why it doesn't get as much
attention,
>but it's still going on. We are all part of it - 800 people and noone
is
>abusive on the list ever, which is quite impressive.
>
>> heather:
>>>This is what I consider to be so interesting about this movement,
it's
>>>niceness. Please, someone, explain this to me. Are the hugs, fuzzy
>>>sweaters, comeraderie with one's parents all a symbol of a greater
>>>cultural fear of the millenial unknown, or is this for real? I love
the
>>>music, but I'd like to solve the mystery of the seemingly docile
youth
>> who
>>>follow it.
>>
>> i don't think they are really docile..i mean would not exactly call
my
>> relationship with my parents very comeraderie,my halo isn't exactly
>> gleaming..i mean sure we share little stories on here,but there's a
lot
>> of darkness that people just aren't going to see...but again,maybe
>> elsewhere these fuzzy sweater people are like that,i can only speak
from
>> what i do and see.
>
>Well personally my family's going through a bad patch at the moment,
which
>is why I'm dreading spending most of the next 4 weeks with my parents.
The
>difference is that (like just about everyone in this hypothesised
movement
>I guess) I will still do so, and try my best to keep everyone getting
on
>with each other. Everyone gets annoyed at some things and some people -
>what matters is what you do about it.
>
>I would never describe myself as a hippy (although free love would go
down
>well at times ;-) ), but I respect what they tried to achieve far more
than
>the punks. I'm far too cynical to believe that we can all love everyone
-
>there will always be people you don't get on with - but you have to be
able
>to live with those people.
>
>Apologies if I'm sounding like a moral preacher, that's not what I
intend
>at all; I'm just describing how I think most of us, and an increasing
>number of people in general, live our lives. And I happen to think that
>it's a good thing.
>
>
>As for a musical movement, that's a different kettle of fish. The trend
>over the last 5 years seems to have been a history of pop music. It
started
>with Britpop - basically a 60s revival - and has so far been through
prog,
>glam, 80s dance music, the current 80s crap pop revival (Stock Aitken
and
>Waterman all over again) amongst other things, in proportion with their
>importance and durability at the time. Maybe B&S will slot into an
acoustic
>revival next year, who knows. There hasn't been a genuinely new sound
to
>any popular music since grunge (which wasn't far away from punk
anyway).
>Have people run out of ideas? Is pop music's 50-year reign as leisure
>pursuit of choice for the young finally coming to an end?
>
>
>Reading through the above, it all seems very mellow and reflective -
just
>the mood I'm in today I guess (partly because it's the end of term and
I've
>been saying goodbye to loads of people, including some old friends
who've
>been here this weekend that I haven't seen for ages and won't again for
>ages; and partly because I'm a bit hungover). And you've probably all
given
>up and gone home by this point. I just wanted to set out my point of
view,
>in case anyone agrees or indeed cares.
>
>
>Oh, and while I'm here, the list crush site. I've had a few emails
>regarding its merits of otherwise, which will all be taken into
>consideration. For now it's staying there, but I should warn you all
that
>since neither David nor I will be around over the next few weeks it
won't
>be maintained particularly; so if there's any names you want putting on
the
>list (or taking off it) do something about it now...
>
>Big Stu
>
>In my liver: far too much beer and wine
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