From blink at xxx.net Thu Jan 1 00:04:00 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:04:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: happy new year Message-ID: <199801010004.TAA03364@Vector.inexpress.net> Hello Sinister lovelies... >Date: Sun, 28 Dec 1997 16:52:55 +0000 >From: Sarah >Subject: Sinister: gig and stuff! > >hi everyone! > >just gotta say to all the lovely people i met on Sat it was great to >meet you! i wish i could have stayed at the aftershow, i was so guted i >had to leave :((.....but it was still a brilliant gig! > >And i want to know *you* stuart david *you* had been drinking before >hand. i don't know, forgetting to play your part to Dylan in the >Movies..... Mmmmmm......drunken...Stuart David.... (just to see this,and have a bad gig I would've been happy) I haven't been home for a while,had to sleep on a cold floor and then forced to some creaky old apartment,while you all had such wonderful times! (Well some of you anyways...)So what do Belle and Sebastian do all this time when they only have to play 2 shows a year? Do they not practice? Or do they feel they don't have to show...well...Sunday sounded beautiful,I wish I could've gone,ANY gig by Belle and Sebastian (the shows by bands I like are a very rare thing.....) But I did have a lovely (weird) dream..I was running over THE bridge in England,and I won the race and they gave me a balloon procaliming I won the esaiest race in the world....but the balloon started to carry me away,so I walked a ways to some lovely sand dunes where the Longpigs (well..Crispin Hunt actually) was there,and it just got even lovlier.... BUT,when I turned on the tv at the creaky apartment,the first thing I see is the video for 'On and On' now I've NEVER seen this video before and the Longpigs arne't your usual video play. Hmmmmmm! champagne kisses love love, Genevieve :) " yes,these hands are lonely these hands are wasted i die alone and in slo-mo Because I got what i wanted so 'forever' is gone 'forever' was wrong " ...............................HAPPY NEW YEAR ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sallydoll at xxx.net Thu Jan 1 17:33:22 1998 From: sallydoll at xxx.net (Acrylica) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 17:33:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Varous ramblings about the gigs Message-ID: <199801012031.UAA15649@boober.lineone.net> > Some people I noticed - anyone recognise themselves? : >- A boy in black with worrying maroon slip-on shoes complete with gold buckle >and a perfectly accessorised gold carrier bag. He sat just behind me on the >floor near the front whilst waiting for the band to appear, and seemed as on >his own as me. >- A girl with big red hair sitting on a podium stage right. ... Dear me, my third posting - I'm getting addicted! Anyway, the boy you describe sounds like Suedebloke, who was on my left. And the girl - c'est moi! Thankyou for mentioning the bigness of my hair - it's usually very lank, so I go thru hell backcombing it (it's agony in the morning!) in order to reach the desired effect, so its very rewarding when someone mentions the largeness of it! And thankyou for saying red, 'cos it's washing out a bit now and veering towards orange! >After a bit of milling around in the bar area, Future Pilot aka began their >set. Erm, did anyone else find them a bit strange?? I really didn't get >what they were all about at all! Maybe I just wasn't being receptive >enough, but still... They were like Sukia, only without any actual tunes involved. They were art school wank and anyone who wants to flame me for that do so - I love a good argument! Lots of love and (red) iguanas... Acrylica sallydoll at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Fri Jan 2 01:20:39 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 01:20:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: tourniquet Message-ID: <199801020008.AAA08214@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> has anyone heard that brilliant song that is played constantly on X-fm It is by Headswim I think and it is called Tourniquet Well anyway it is absolutely brilliant Did anyone out there hear the X-fm top 100 alternative tunes? I got up to the Roses - I wanna be adored but I had to go out. Who got number one. At a guess I'd say Paranoid Android got it. I don't think a Beatles/U2/R.E.M/Oasis/Blur song would've got it 'cause there brilliance is spread between songs. There is no stand out track. Not saying that the other Radiohead stuff is shite cause it is brilliant but PA is just an amazing song. Is the top 100 listed on the NET Where did B&S come? *<<<< content* who is Mr Shankley? bye and a cool 1998 for everyone on the list Northy ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Jan 2 10:58:10 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 10:58:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tindersticks Message-ID: <01BD176D.51809FA0@pc7628> In response to James Morton ..... I bought Tindersticks latest album ("Curtains" I believe) just before Chrimbo, because I thought Mr Staples sounded just like Ian Curtis - Joy Division. Having now played the CD repeatedly for 2 weeks and totally fallen in love with it, I thought it high-time I introduced it to a couple of my more discerning friends. Shock Horror !! I was appalled - they both thought it sound just like Vic Reeves' club singing malarky on Shooting Stars...Bastards! -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 2 11:31:02 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 11:31:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: tourniquet In-Reply-To: <199801020008.AAA08214@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 2 Jan 1998, Richard North wrote: > has anyone heard that brilliant song that is played constantly on > X-fm > > It is by Headswim I think and it is called Tourniquet > > Well anyway it is absolutely brilliant > > Did anyone out there hear the X-fm top 100 alternative tunes? > > I got up to the Roses - I wanna be adored but I had to go out. > > Who got number one. At a guess I'd say Paranoid Android got it. I > don't think a Beatles/U2/R.E.M/Oasis/Blur song would've got it 'cause > there brilliance is spread between songs. There is no stand out > track. Not saying that the other Radiohead stuff is shite cause it > is brilliant but PA is just an amazing song. > > Is the top 100 listed on the NET > > Where did B&S come? *<<<< content* > > who is Mr Shankley? ***I was under the impression that mr. shankley (if we're talking about the smiths song, and it's going to be really embarrassing if we're not, was the boss of rough trade (shankly wasn't his real name), whom mozz was pissed off with because he didn't feel they were promoting the band very well. is that any help??*** Alastair > > > bye and a cool 1998 for everyone on the list > > Northy > > > ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Fri Jan 2 13:08:39 1998 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (u01cjtc) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:08:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: happy new year Message-ID: Happy new year everybody, hope you all had a great hogmanay, if you were in edinburgh you may have seen me wandering around: kilt,wooly hat with very large bobble. Iwas glad to hear saturday wasn't up to much, it makes me feel so much better for missing it, but it's also lovely to hear how much you all enjoyed the gigs anyway. On a tindersticks note, I was listening to curtains the other day and came to the conclusion that if B&S were locked in a brothel with nothing to live on but Gaulois and Courvoisier they would end up sounding just like the tindersticks,who I also adore. Hope you all have an amazing 1998. Colin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Fri Jan 2 13:55:09 1998 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 13:55:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs) Message-ID: This post is critical of B&S and technical. Read at your peril! Congratulations to Paul Clarke for daring to make 90% of the listees cry by saying that Saturday was shit. He is right - they were so bad I almost couldn't be arsed to go to the Sunday gig. He is also correct to say that if they're only going to play a handful of shows a year, the very least they could do is rehearse properly for them. I'm a concert promoter for a living and a lot of things worried me about the gigs.... The PA was shit. As was the company that supplied it and also the FOH engineer. On the Sunday, two people were sitting on a 100Amp 3 phase cable near to the C-Form / Camlock connectors. Not only is this highly dangerous, it also breaches Health and Safety regulations. As a rule, mains cables should be flown, but if they are laid across the floor, they need to be covered with a carpet or something similar. Someone, could easily have been killed by an electric shock the way the PA crew had left it. The idea of a circular stack is interesting but not very practical, especially with the hopeless engineers the band had employed. There were 'hotspots' all over the room which meant you had to walk around to find a good spot where you could see AND hear. Delay stacks in all four corners would have improved things as B&S are a very quiet band. Also, one stack doesn't allow for a stereo separation which might have helped relieve the tinny 'vocal PA' style sound. The PA boxes, aside from being underpowered, were useless for the type of music B&S play. Also, given that Stuart Murdoch has an unusual mic technique (ie. he stands about 4 inches away as though he is scared of it), I don't think a bog standard SM58 was the right choice. It made his voice sound thin and tinny. The sign of a good Front of House engineer is one who is constantly tweaking things. In a live situation, it is nigh on impossible to attain a 'perfect' sound as the variables are changing all the time. Belle and Sebastian's engineer seemed more concerned with taking photos and chatting to mates. They should have sacked him on the Saturday. All of this could be overcome by employing a reputable production manager and doing some proper pre-production rehearsals. It's not as if the band's schedule is killing them - they hardly do any promotional work at all - so they've got plenty of time to sort out the live situation. A production manager would ensure the PA is suitable for the band's sound, locate a decent FOH engineer, assist Stuart with his mic problems (the records are great so he obviously doesn't have a problem in the studio), get them some instrument techs to avoid a repetition of the cello debacle and basically shake them up. I don't want to see them running on stage shouting 'Hey Manchester - we're here to rock you' and playing a polished set with scripted intros to each song. That wouldn't be Belle And Sebastian. Hell, I don't even mind Stuart forgetting the words, that is all part of the appeal. What I do object to is paying twenty quid for two gigs where no thought has been given to the production of the show and someone is pocketing the cash from cutting corners. Maybe they should think about this and employ some professionals before they next venture out. If they don't, the live audiences will dwindle and they'll be back to playing libraries and cafes where no-one minds if it's shit because they've only paid three quid to get in. Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Fri Jan 2 17:14:07 1998 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 09:14:07 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: B&S sweeps Indie-pop poll Message-ID: Hi, Are all of you on already on the Indie-Pop list? If not, here are the B&S-relevant results. B&S won nearly every applicable category and the Sinister list was voted "the coolest mailing list or newsgroup besides indie-pop." (We all know Sinister's the coolest of them all, of course. ;-) Congrats to HoneyPaul on that.) I regret to report that none of the B&S gang won "Most Fancied Indiepop Personality". Judging from all the recent gushing about the glittering goddess Isobel, she'll get some votes in that one next year! Ciao now .. - Nicole Indiepop Poll 1997 Results ========================== Cool mailing list or newsgroup besides indiepop: 1. Sinister (Belle and Sebastian List) The bands you couldn't live without: 1. Belle & Sebastian Most listened to longplay records: 1. Belle & Sebastian - If You Are Feeling Sinister 10. Belle & Sebastian - Tigermilk Pop songs your new boyfriend should really know about: 1. Belle & Sebastian - A Century Of Fakers 2. Belle & Sebastian - Photo Jenny Most promising new acts: 1. Belle & Sebastian (tied with Shoestrings) Most amazing live experiences: 1. Belle & Sebastian Best EP or mini-LP: 1. Belle & Sebastian - 3..6..9 Seconds of light 2. Belle & Sebastian - Dog On Wheels Belle & Sebastian - Lazy Line-Painter Jane ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Fri Jan 2 20:46:02 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 20:46:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs) References: Message-ID: <34AD520A.C86EED68@mail.zynet.co.uk> Mark wrote: > This post is critical of B&S and technical. Read > at your peril! you want 'polished' 'professional' rock shows, go see radiohead or whoever is dull enough to really care. not that i'd have liked to be electrocuted, but hell, i can think of worse ways to die than at a belle & sebastian show ;-) you might think that if they have so much time on their hands they should sort out live 'problems', but frankly, i personally wonder why they should bother. you think the band have to do everything to please the fans? sod that... i'd much rather they pleased themselves. they have lives you know, and that's what makes their songs so special, because they don't spend all their time living some wanky rock'n'roll dream... or worrying about doing all the things 'right' so that they become hugely famous... and that's a big part of why i love the band so much. that they DON'T do all the things 'normally' and by the rock'n'roll rules. long may their 'incompetence' continue. keep the faith, duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Fri Jan 2 20:43:46 1998 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 15:43:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Tweenet Charts Message-ID: <01BD1795.3B0B3C80@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> Hey Belle and Sebastian Fans: In case you are interested, the Tweenet charts have in their annual year-end poll Belle and Sebastian kicking everyone's ass in virtually every category from "Bands you could not live without" to "Best EP of the Year" (of which B&S got first, second, and third place). Even this email list won an award for being "Best Mailing List (other than indiepop)". I've never seen a band dominate a tweenet poll so heavily. Not even the Smiths or the Field Mice did. Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.walker15 at xxx.net Fri Jan 2 20:56:05 1998 From: david.walker15 at xxx.net (David Walker) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 20:56:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: My First Post..... References: <34AD520A.C86EED68@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <34AD5464.651A@virgin.net> Hello to all on this list !! I have just subscribed after finding the website and list by pure accident the other night. Also discovered the chatroom (under my pseudonym "Tintin") which was probably the most friendly chatroom I have had the fortune to visit. Looking forward to sharing all things B&S, as well as whatever else comes up, with you all. Have fun, David (AKA Tintin) PS Is it me, or are there a lot of people on the list from the Manchester area ?? -- David Walker The Walker Homepage And Guide To Bolton: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/ "Freedom Is A Myth." Patrick McGoohan. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From samiam2 at xxx.com Fri Jan 2 21:47:03 1998 From: samiam2 at xxx.com (Sam Khater) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 16:47:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Joy Division and Tindersticks References: <199801022046.UAA18607@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34AD6057.72B9@ix.netcom.com> speaking of joy division, is the new box set worth it? i love peter saville's artwork... on an unrelated note, does anyone know how to copyright a body of work? toodles! samiam 'moves on reaction then slumps in despair' - joy division > I bought Tindersticks latest album ("Curtains" I believe) just before = > Chrimbo, because I thought Mr Staples sounded just like Ian Curtis - Joy = > Division. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sami.keinanen at xxx.fi Sat Jan 3 03:03:15 1998 From: sami.keinanen at xxx.fi (Sami Keinanen) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 05:03:15 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B & S Video? Message-ID: <19980102220223010.AAA245@toshiba> Last summer I saw Belle and Sebastian video on MTV. I´m not sure about what song it was, could it be Le Pastie de la Bourgousie? Can anyone tell me? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Fri Jan 2 23:15:13 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 18:15:13 EST Subject: Sinister: Holy Dog On Wheels Message-ID: <9cf29a56.34ad7506@aol.com> In response to the question of whether Stuart M. is balding in the "Dog On Wheels", perhaps it is really a monk's tonsure. Oh, that would explain so much--he is really a fallen monk forced to write melancholy songs for eternity. Truly not such a horrible divine punishment. Awaiting further important discoveries in 1998, Love Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Jan 2 23:46:27 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Fri, 02 Jan 1998 23:46:27 GMT Subject: Sinister: professionalism sucks In-Reply-To: <34AD520A.C86EED68@mail.zynet.co.uk> References: <34AD520A.C86EED68@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <34ad7b87.281103@email.mcmail.com> On Fri, 02 Jan 1998 20:46:02 +0000, you wrote: >you want 'polished' 'professional' rock shows, go >see radiohead or whoever is dull enough to really >care. not that i'd have liked to be electrocuted, >but hell, i can think of worse ways to die than at >a belle & sebastian show ;-) Damn fucking right >you might think that if they have so much time on >their hands they should sort out live 'problems', >but frankly, i personally wonder why they should >bother. you think the band have to do everything >to please the fans? sod that... i'd much rather >they pleased themselves. they have lives you >know, and that's what makes their songs so >special, because they don't spend all their time >living some wanky rock'n'roll dream... or worrying >about doing all the things 'right' so that they >become hugely famous... and that's a big part of >why i love the band so much. that they DON'T do >all the things 'normally' and by the rock'n'roll >rules. Duke, this is the best mail you've ever written! >long may their 'incompetence' continue. And do say me, Tag and Kinky >keep the faith, I'll do my best, sweetheart. Love Svart Lucia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sat Jan 3 00:01:24 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 00:01:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: hello trees, hello flowers Message-ID: <34ad7cec.638050@email.mcmail.com> Hello everyone Just been out for a quick drinky-poo with JJ and Rachee - my new neighbours. Another couple of nice listees to prove my longstanding theory that Sinisterenes rule, like bad muthas! I dunno, nothing much to say, other than to reiterate what Alastair said. No-one died and let's be honest it was unlikely. I dunno about anyone else but I had the time of my life in Manchester, it wasn't just the gigs it was the whole experience - smashing people smashing end to a year. New Year's Eve was just an anticlimax, now I'm at home been listening to nowt but Paul's Beat Patrol tape,'Psychcandy' (ooh nostalgia) and lots of Northern Soul since the weekend. Why don't we all have a big party? I'm serious - I love you each and every one! Big sloppy kisses and that Svart Lucia xxx It's Swedish y'know ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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(Manc gigs) References: <34AD520A.C86EED68@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <34AD93C8.2947@seahouses.u-net.com> the duke of harringay wrote a load of shite: > you might think that if they have so much time on > their hands they should sort out live 'problems', > but frankly, i personally wonder why they should > bother. you think the band have to do everything > to please the fans? sod that... i'd much rather > they pleased themselves. they have lives you > know, and that's what makes their songs so > special, because they don't spend all their time > living some wanky rock'n'roll dream... or worrying > about doing all the things 'right' so that they > become hugely famous... and that's a big part of > why i love the band so much. that they DON'T do > all the things 'normally' and by the rock'n'roll > rules. > > long may their 'incompetence' continue. > > keep the faith, > > duke > What a stupid thing to say. Yeah, I paid TWENTY TWO pounds so they can piss about and enjoy themselves and put on a substandard show. Excuse me but *I* bought their fucking music and so did lots of other people...if we hadn't then they wouldn't even be PLAYING these fucking gigs, right? So I do expect more than an amateur show. Saturday was rubbish, Sunday was ace. It shouldn't have been this way. If they don't please their fans then they won't HAVE fans, just fools like you who defend everything they do, because "they have lives you know" and because they "DON'T do all the things 'normally'". goodnight JJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sat Jan 3 01:59:56 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 01:59:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: A Bugs Bunny reference? I didn't realise In-Reply-To: <34AD93C8.2947@seahouses.u-net.com> References: <34AD520A.C86EED68@mail.zynet.co.uk> <34AD93C8.2947@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: <34af9b70.2063477@email.mcmail.com> #On Sat, 03 Jan 1998 01:26:32 +0000, you wrote: >the duke of harringay wrote a load of shite: Hahahahaha! I love a good row > >> you might think that if they have so much time on >> their hands they should sort out live 'problems', >> but frankly, i personally wonder why they should >> bother. you think the band have to do everything >> to please the fans? sod that... i'd much rather >> they pleased themselves. they have lives you >> know, and that's what makes their songs so >> special, because they don't spend all their time >> living some wanky rock'n'roll dream... or worrying >> about doing all the things 'right' so that they >> become hugely famous... and that's a big part of >> why i love the band so much. that they DON'T do >> all the things 'normally' and by the rock'n'roll >> rules. >> >What a stupid thing to say. Yeah, I paid TWENTY TWO pounds >so they can piss about and enjoy themselves and put on a >substandard show. I really sincerely believe that they weren't taking the piss and that they tried to put on the best show they could. >Excuse me but *I* bought their fucking music and so did lots >of other people...if we hadn't then they wouldn't even be >PLAYING these fucking gigs, right? So I do expect more than >an amateur show. Saturday was rubbish, Sunday was ace. It >shouldn't have been this way. If they don't please their fans >then they won't HAVE fans, just fools like you who defend >everything they do, because "they have lives you know" and >because they "DON'T do all the things 'normally'". Now what can I say - I'm in a quandry here. I guess I was lucky enough to sit in one of those 'hot spots' mentioned earlier and all thru Saturday I knew I was going to see the Sunday so I guess I'm in no position to pontificate. BUT I do know a lot of people who were disappointed in Saturday's performance - I can only put it down to a degree of naivity on the band's part, and the fact they took a risk with the arrangement they tried. But in their favour - at least they *did* try to do something unconventional and it did pay off in the end altho I doubt that's any consolation to those who went to Saturday only. Apparently Stephen Wells came to the matinee and stood all through with a sneer and folded arms. A slagging awaits. Whose side are YOU on? Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Sat Jan 3 02:09:46 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 02:09:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs) In-Reply-To: <34AD93C8.2947@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, John Jackson wrote: > the duke of harringay wrote a load of shite: Ok... (sound of offstage giggling) - let's calm it down a little please. Strong opinions very welcome but gratuitous insults are not. JJ and duke, you know I love you dearly and this isn't a dig. You can also tell I half agree with both of you from my last postings. For everyone else: a Welcome To Sinister 1998 message, a little overdue from Paul your list admin guy who gets a kicking for these little hints to be nice. It says here that there are a staggering 427 people on the list now, which is such a great increase I'm off to check my software - this'll include a few dead accounts which I will clear out when I get a min. But for everyone new and old hands: happy new year and well done for winning a mailing list award which is all your doing. Thing is, I want to keep it this way. I know a few of you hate intervention but to newcomers: 1. Please read the WWW pages: URL at the bottom of every message. 2. Please remember this is a B&S list - this doesn't mean every message needs to contain a reference to Chris Geddes' underpants, but just - well remember there's a sort of focus around which we all revolve. 3. I'm not going to let this list descend into squabbles - one of the amazing things about meeting people at the concert was how bloody nice you all were! So keep it that way, there's a strong community spirit here, and I have plans to buy up a row of houses and move in with you all. However strong opinions and eccentric arse are strongly encouraged on the list - take your lead from the old-timers. 4. Mail me at owner-sinister at majordomo.net if you ever get stuck with the list, or feel things aren't going the way you want them too. Majority opinions hold sway. Erm - that's it. Be nice to each other, marry, have babies and have a nice 1998. Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Sat Jan 3 02:47:08 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 21:47:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: honeypaul darling, hows about we get married and you have all the babies? and you know the offspring of the _really_ devoted fans will be born clutching copies of tigermilk (tigreleche) or, erm, something. and let's buy rowhouses or an old hotel or something, then we'll all be neighbors and the teabags can save on phone bills!!!! anyway, hope you all had a lovely holiday and sod all you cheecky peeps who partied at manchester....;) love and mushy lipsticky kisses to all 427, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mgilham at xxx.edu Sat Jan 3 04:33:50 1998 From: mgilham at xxx.edu (Michael H Gilham) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 23:33:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: hello trees, hello flowers In-Reply-To: <34ad7cec.638050@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Tag wrote: > Hello everyone > > Just been out for a quick drinky-poo with JJ and Rachee - my new > neighbours. Another couple of nice listees to prove my longstanding > theory that Sinisterenes rule, like bad muthas! > > I dunno, nothing much to say, other than to reiterate what Alastair > said. No-one died and let's be honest it was unlikely. I dunno about > anyone else but I had the time of my life in Manchester, it wasn't > just the gigs it was the whole experience - smashing people smashing > end to a year. New Year's Eve was just an anticlimax, now I'm at home > been listening to nowt but Paul's Beat Patrol tape,'Psychcandy' (ooh > nostalgia) and lots of Northern Soul since the weekend. > > Why don't we all have a big party? I'm serious - I love you each and > every one! "I was having the time, of my life, So why did you have to die? I'm lost again ..." (from "LONDON, CAN YOU WAIT?" by Gene) all concerned can be glad the above verse applies only in jest! Cheers, waiting for the the American Campaign, --Michael PS A "listee" wrote that S. Staples sounds just like the late I. Curtis ... Is it just me, or does this strike others as way off? I'm a long time JD listener; and have been listening to "Sticks" since '96 (we come across things a bit late over here, some times!). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Jan 3 11:10:27 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 11:10:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hello trees, hello flowers References: <34ad7cec.638050@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: <34AE1CA2.5C83F2E4@mail.zynet.co.uk> Tag wrote: > I dunno about > anyone else but I had the time of my life in > Manchester, it wasn't > just the gigs it was the whole experience exactly what i was on about in my other post... > Why don't we all have a big party? I'm serious > - I love you each and > every one! great idea, but as always difficult to organise... so who's game!? the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Jan 3 11:00:27 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 11:00:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs) References: Message-ID: <34AE1A4A.244BEDC5@mail.zynet.co.uk> Honey wrote: > On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, John Jackson wrote: > > > the duke of harringay wrote a load of shite: for all of you new here, that's my trademark. writing a load of shite. i practise very hard you know. > Ok... (sound of offstage giggling) - let's calm > it down a little > please. Strong opinions very welcome but > gratuitous insults are not. don't recall making any gratuitous insults, but hey! i can oblige if you insist. as an addition to the thread about manchester and 'incompetence', well i think there's a few more things to be added. firstly to say that actually, i've never been that good about distinguishing between the 'music' and the appeal of the Pop group. i've said this a million times probably so won't say any more except that in the show situation, i take into account lots of factors, like who i meet, where the show is held, what i do before and after. it's an EVENT, it's a part of my life. the actual performance by a Pop group is only one part of that experience. reading a few other people's reviews of saturday, they sound like they had a great time despite the fact that the group sounded, by their own admission, pants. i think that's really important, because there's much more to loving a Pop group than just liking what they sound like. like what i said in my own review: lots of smiling faces and lots of earnest looking young boys (men, whatver). the earnest young men (i'm being general because it usually IS males) miss a lot of the fun potential. i should know, cos i used to worse than most. secondly, um what else did John say: 'Yeah, I paid TWENTY TWO pounds so they can piss about and enjoy themselves and put on a substandard show.' well i don't think they intentionally piss about, it just happens :-) and if you think it sucks, you can leave, feel pissed off and go discover something else that doesn't piss you off. i saw The Smiths play on the queen is dead tour, and they sounded dire, so i walked out. okay, i 'wasted' some money, and i never liked the band much after that, but hell, that was fair enough. i saw Stockholm Monsters support and realised that there were other exciting groups to obsess over. i'd had several years of smiths obsession and saw them play amazing shows on several occasions, so i wasn't too bothered. i just moved on. john also said: 'If they don't please their fans then they won't HAVE fans, just fools like you who defend everything they do, because "they have lives you know" and because they "DON'T do all the things 'normally'".' yikes, it's official then, i'm a fool. if it's of any interest to you, the duchess agrees with you, she 'sees' my point but doesn't 'respect' it! ha ha. i'm an unrespected fool. great start to 1998. but do i care, oh no... i actually don't defend everything they do anyway. i thought that the 'Sinister' songs on sunday night were largely lacking in sparkle and sounded flat. i said this in my review and i told Stuart Murdoch as well. so maybe i am a fool... And do they care about having lots of fans, or do they care more about making recordings that they are proud of? i'm not a member of the band so can't answer it, but if they DO care a whole lot about making (and keeping) lots of fans, maybe they DO need to polish up their live shows. The answer is in their hands. > 2. Please remember this is a B&S list - this > doesn't mean every message > needs to contain a reference to Chris Geddes' > underpants, perhaps we can have a seperate list dedicated to Chris' underwear? > 3. I'm not going to let this list descend into > squabbles - one of the > amazing things about meeting people at the > concert was how bloody > nice you all were! ah but paul, you never got to meet me! in fact not many did... probably because i was wandering about being an unrespected fool talking a load of shite. > strong opinions and eccentric arse are > strongly encouraged on the list - take your lead > from the old-timers. so now i'm not just an unrespected fool who writes shite, but i'm OLD as well. hey, 1998 is going to be great ;-) > Majority > opinions hold sway. except when they're wrong, i.e. i don't agree with them. > Erm - that's it. Be nice to each other, marry, > have babies and have a > nice 1998. be mean and moody, have sordid affairs, avoid children at all costs... then you'll have a great 1998. so that's me fucked then. keep the faith the duke "What do I care what impression I make on people? ItÂ’s because we waste our lives caring about other people that most of us remain morons." (Colin Wilson) -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sat Jan 3 13:35:13 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 13:35:13 GMT Subject: Sinister: ongoing debates Message-ID: <34ae3a6e.106064@email.mcmail.com> Dear all A quick one before I go to London. Firstly, regarding parties...well maybe it was alcohol talking (I found some whisky after I went out with JJ and Rach), but it was genuinely cool to meet some of you and it would be nice if we could have some sort of get-together without the 'distractions' of some pop group or other. I'll be in London a lot in the next 3 months and I'm planning a trip up to Glasgow soon, so even if it's just a pint or two.... Secondly, the case of the Duke vs JJ - well forgive me for being a woolly liberal, but I'm going to sit on the fence a bit more on this matter. I think we all realise that both sides were playing devil's advocate - no one wants to be electrocuted and waiting ages to see your favourite band only to have bad sound ruin the day is a major league pisser, but I don't think anyone of us wants to see the boredom of immaculately rehearsed, but ultimately soulless renditions of what is already on the records. I remember all this from New Order gig going days (god I'm old), accusations of arrogance and incompetence, but the simple truth was that their unpredictability was their charm and when they hit a peak they could be simply awesome. I think Belle and Sebastian would lose a great deal of what makes them special by striving for technical perfection. This isn't blind faith talking, no-one is above criticism and I certainly don't regard the group as superheroes, in fact what I like about the group is the fact that 8 normal and likable kids have found something magical. I think you all know what I mean. Right I've got a train to catch. Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Sat Jan 3 14:10:51 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 14:10:51 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Manchester astral polaroids Message-ID: Quick one - first "picture" of the gigs in manchester on the WWW page (URL in the footer). Now I'm waiting for one of the right hand side of the stage please - something doodled by a 6 year old would be nice. Honey P.S. Don't misread me if I am incoherent - keep up the debate and for god's sake don't stop swearing. Just occasionally buy each other a pint too. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Sat Jan 3 15:02:42 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 16:02:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs) References: <34AE1A4A.244BEDC5@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <34AE5312.74F38EC5@colon.net.> the duke of harringay wrote: > Honey wrote: > > > On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, John Jackson wrote: > > > > > the duke of harringay wrote a load of shite: He marched it up to the top of the hill and he marched it down againAnd when it was shite it was shite, and when it was shite it was shite And when it was only halfway shite it was neither ship nor sheep. > > > for all of you new here, that's my trademark. > writing a load of shite. i practise very hard you > know. Good on you Duke. I applaud your shite. I enjoy your shite. I enjoy everybody's shite. I sometimes feel that I'm going to have trouble pulling my own weight, shite-wise, given the staggeringly high quality of other people's shite. But I will keep the faith and keep on churning out shite until I am forcibly stopped. Unless I decide otherwise. Can't really comment on the shiteness or otherwise of the Manchester performances, but I would gladly bet my bobble hat that they weren't pissing about on purpose just to annoy people. Anybody can have an off night, even Michael Bolton. It can be very disappointing, as can a piss-poor football match or Alien 4. Is the Front of House manager the bloke who twiddles the knobs on the sound desk or whatever it's called? If so, I watched the one in charge of the Barcelona concert for a while, and thought to myself "what a sterling job that fellow's doing". I think they had imported him specially, but I don't know if it's the same one as in Manchester. Specs, looked like my old boss Frank. > . i thought that > the 'Sinister' songs on sunday night were largely > lacking in sparkle and sounded flat. i said this > in my review and i told Stuart Murdoch as well. What did he say? > so maybe i am a fool... And do they care about > having lots of fans, or do they care more about > making recordings that they are proud of? i'm not > a member of the band so can't answer it, but if > they DO care a whole lot about making (and > keeping) lots of fans, maybe they DO need to > polish up their live shows. The answer is in > their hands. Obviously something like a radiohead support slot would help smooth things out, but I personally suspect that it would take away some of the sparkle, make it all seem a lot more like work. It's none of my business really. I wish I had something of consequence to say on the matter. Continuing in a Duke vein, I have been brushing up my popology over the holidays by reading Nik Cohn's book Awopbopalopbopalopbopalopbombamboo! What an entertaining read it is! I particularly enjoyed his unrestarained championing of Jimmy Saville. I hope to be able to join in the next pop/rock debate with renewed vigour. I also listened to Tigermilk. It's better than I thought it was, even though my favourite member, Sarah, is not on it. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sat Jan 3 19:52:35 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:52:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sarah? Message-ID: <199801031840.SAA28393@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Did someone called Sarah send something to the Void? If you did then well done 'cause I read it and it was great! Did you read the other letter that said most of Dog on Wheels was done by session musicians and not the band. *controversial* - especially as he said that he was at the recording studio. oh er bye Northy ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Jan 3 19:10:21 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 03 Jan 1998 19:10:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sarah? References: <199801031840.SAA28393@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34AE8D1C.8D6BE36C@mail.zynet.co.uk> > Did you read the other letter that said most of > Dog on Wheels was > done by session musicians and not the band. > *controversial* - > especially as he said that he was at the > recording studio. well it's true... they made no attempt to hide it either. check the credits on the sleeve. indeed because it's not 'the band' is cited as the reason the ep won't be on any compilation of ep tracks in the future. I suspect however that mick cook is the self same mick who played at manchester? and was referred to as being a member of the band on the beat patrol thingy. he chose chet baker so he must be cool :-) off to the pub. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Sat Jan 3 14:29:11 1998 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 14:29:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Missing the point Message-ID: Duke totally misses my point about the Manchester gigs. I DON'T want B&S to be a polished professional act, I said that in my post. What I do object to is corners being cut on the technical side, either through lack of experience or the foolish belief that 'all-round incompetance' is somehow attractive. Maybe you'd be happy if they recorded the next LP by placing a walkman in the corner of a big room instead of spending a few days in a 'professional' (oh my god!..) studio and using 'professional (here we go again...) equipment with a 'professional' engineer. And then they could release it on cassette only without bothering to master it because they've got lives to lead and they just do things for themselves - fuck the people who funded it by buying the last record. Duke, I think you'll find yourself in a minority here. Sorry mate Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Sat Jan 3 20:57:50 1998 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: 3 Jan 1998 20:57:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: Sarah? In-Reply-To: <34AE8D1C.8D6BE36C@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <68DC760A.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> > > Did you read the other letter that said most of > > Dog on Wheels was > > done by session musicians and not the band. > > *controversial* - > > especially as he said that he was at the > > recording studio. > > well it's true... they made no attempt to hide it > either. check the credits on the sleeve. As it says in the Belle & Sebastian part of the Class of 97 piece in this months record collector "Dog On Wheels was actually an old project that pre-dated Tigermilk" Very good little article by the way, am I right in thinking that Katrina at least helped put it together? -- You must be zen, you must listen for the colour of the sky, look for the sound of the hummingbirds wing & search for the perfume of ice on a hot summers day. If you have found these things, you will know & in response to someone asking you "how come you sense these things?" simply answer "how come you do not?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aeos at xxx.com Sat Jan 3 23:45:53 1998 From: aeos at xxx.com (Andrew O'Sullivan) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 23:45:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm sorry...... Message-ID: <004101bd18a1$bbe39f20$5cf682c1@default> Laurel wrote: > and let's buy rowhouses or an old hotel or something, then we'll all be > neighbours and the teabags can save on phone bills!!!! Not to mention all jumping in a bath together, to save, umm, on the, umm, leccy bills? Coat? ------------------------- Andrew O'Sullivan aeos at dial.pipex.com http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/osullivan/ "Whipped cream isn't whipped cream unless it's been whipped by whips; Just as a poached egg isn't poached unless it's been stolen from the woods in the dead of night." ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Sun Jan 4 00:07:36 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:07:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: I'm sorry...... In-Reply-To: <004101bd18a1$bbe39f20$5cf682c1@default> Message-ID: On Sat, 3 Jan 1998, Andrew O'Sullivan wrote: > > Not to mention all jumping in a bath together, to save, umm, on the, umm, > leccy bills? > > Coat? > > ------- andrew, your post raises so many interesting questions. first of all, what are you sorry for? second, i'm probably just slow but i don't understand the coat bit at all. third, however did you know i adore long hot baths, only you have to let me put smelly things in, they're nice i promise. oh, we'll just get a hotel with a pool and hot tub, then we can all go swimming and picnicing together, idyllic! here's to wishful thinking, love to all from laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AFox at xxx.com Sun Jan 4 08:48:04 1998 From: AFox at xxx.com (Andy Fox) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 03:48:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Stateside Message-ID: First of all, thanks for the reviews, commentary, and general nonsense about the Manchester shows. Second, David & Katrina, sorry to hear about the break-in, if anyone over here can help with anything, let us know. Third, some DC news. The bar Fox & Hounds (17th & Q or so), has IYFS on the jukebox. Tonight I ran into, by accident, fellow lister Pam Berry (of stateside Tigermilk fame) and her non-lister but B&S fan friend Megan. I suggest another meet for DC area folks, there. Let me or Sam know if you are interested, and a date will be set. Cheerio, asf "too much history and too much biography between us" That's it, ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From wyninger at xxx.org Sun Jan 4 09:40:20 1998 From: wyninger at xxx.org (Mary Wyninger) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:40:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: sinister - new Yankee on the list & possible Tigermilk for sale Message-ID: Hello all, I've been lurking on the list for a few weeks now, and I wanted to introduce myself. I live in Seattle and B&S have been rocking my world for the past 8 months or so. I rarely get completely obsessive over a band, but B&S have definitely driven me to that level of fanaticism. (Other bands I feel the same way about - Guided By Voices, the Velvet Underground, Beat Happening, Superchunk.) All my money goes to buying new records, eating be damned... You know the drill. HOWEVER! I didn't just post to the list to waste your time. A friend of mine told me that the record store he works for, Luna Music in Indianapolis, IN, USA, just got in a few copies of Tigermilk on cassette. Someone else already taped it for me, so I declined - but I thought I'd pass the info along to you. I don't know if this is supposed to be widely-known - so if you contact them, you didn't hear it from me, OK? :) Luna's info is as follows: -- phone: 317.875.LUNA (5862) email: lunamusic at inetdirect.net URL: http://www.lunamusic.net/ -- Thanks, and good luck! Mary -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mary A. Wyninger wyninger at speakeasy.org http://www.speakeasy.org/~wyninger/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sun Jan 4 10:53:45 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 10:53:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Missing the point References: Message-ID: <34AF6A39.55017BC1@mail.zynet.co.uk> Mark wrote: > Duke totally misses my point about the > Manchester gigs. i usually do... it's in the job description. > I DON'T want B&S to be a polished professional > act, I said that in my post. i know. i have selective amnesia. you get it free when you teach 11 year olds you know. comes in very handy in class but gets you into trouble when you're in the real world. > Maybe you'd be happy if they recorded the next > LP by placing a walkman in > the corner of a big room instead of spending a > few days in a 'professional' > (oh my god!..) studio and using 'professional > (here we go again...) > equipment with a 'professional' engineer. And > then they could release it on > cassette only without bothering to master it > because they've got lives to > lead and they just do things for themselves - > fuck the people who funded it > by buying the last record. sounds like a top-notch idea to me. maybe i can be their manager then... > Duke, I think you'll find yourself in a minority > here. Sorry mate story of my life mate, it's nothing new to me... basically, my bottom line is that i've never been that bothered by shows anyway. i'm not a show kinda guy because i don't like people very much as a rule. it's a silly rule, and it gets me into all kinds of nasty scrapes, but wayward and cynical is just my way. And as the Claim said, that never left a lasting impression upon her lonely heart... but i digress. i'm a sad and lonely (not to mention bitter and twisted) old git who much prefers the old bedroom and record player idea of Pop consumption. god i need a holiday... duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk Sun Jan 4 12:36:17 1998 From: S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk (Stuart Maclean) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 98 12:36:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: Post-Manchester Ramble Message-ID: <13984.9801041236@dsse.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Hi all, just thought as everyone else had had their say, I'd wade in too. Um, so what did happen that weekend? Arrived Sat evening, booked in at our cheap hotel, alas not the Dolby but the Grafton down by the Uni. Off to Vinyl Exchange and Piccadilly for supplies first, then roamed my way to the Square Albert. Being the shy type I didnt really say hi much for about an hour, though I was one of the first there 8-(. Still, Martin turns up and beers are proceeded to be had. As it filled up a bit I said hi to Stuart and HoneyPaul and had a general good gossip. Ahem, bit worse for wear by 8, off we staggered across the square to the Town Hall. Ha, another church! Pseudo-bar upstairs and "please no drinks or smoking in the hall". OK, hung around, Arab Strap kinda came and went without exactly being there (?!). Is there such a thing as a "typical" B+S stage show, well assuming yes is the reposte to that, then I'd say "typical B+S" stage show, U-shaped stage!! PA looked quite small, yep very quiet gig to come. OK, so quite packed by the time I had finished another of Murphy's beers, so I'm kind of near the back watching two stages side on but with the sound right in front of me ;-) And them, um, well, I remember Photo Jenny as great and Century of Fakers as bop-along but not much else, and then they were gone.... Had I come from Southampton for this?? Still, no time to lose wallowing in the disappointment of it all, taxi off to Smile, where the entire Town Hall crowd bopped to such stupendous records as Therese, Carbrain and Pristine Christine. Said hi to Julian, my mate Mark's friend. OK Martin, its 2am, I'm tired and drunk and the gig is coming back to me, off home. Awake at 11 with no sign of aforementioned cohort, seemed he had "met someone at the end of Smile and gone to theirs". Blimey can't get the staff these days ;-). So, Sunday spent nursing hangover from hell, no ticket for the matinee but not to worry, tonights gig MIGHT be great, like Colchester after Oxford. Its kinda like Charlie opening that Wonka wrapper, this MIGHT be the golden ticket, so this gig MIGHT be the best in history. So, the Albert is closed, off to the Ferris Wheel, glance at GMEX, into the Briton's Protection (sp?) for a hairofthedog Tetleys. over to the Hall at 8. OK, feel better now, hangover gone, on the cokes, meet friends up from Wales (hi Mike and Fred) and good old Pat from Accies, who is amazed to see me (I'm now sitting here typing this taping him TM ;-)) So, support come and go without a fuss, get nearer the front than last night, that's better already. Off we go at 9.30. Modern Rock Song, and its just wonderful. Sound is about a gazillion times better than last night, and no its not just the lack of alcoholic stupor! The State I Am In next and if that isnt the best song in the history of music.... A glitch for Le Pastis , never my fave anyway, but then Shes Losing It, oh so wonderful, me thinks this next hour is going to be so great. But a couple more go by whose titles elude me. It is going off the boil I think, tho still better than last night. And, then, WOW revival or revival??? Century of Elvis just the best, what a tune (hmm preaching to the converted here Stuart??) better than horrid Fakers remake ;-) And Judy and Seymour and Dylan and it just flows and glides and this is the BEST BAND IN THE WORLD.... havent felt like this in years, since oooh Codeine in London.. they play for 80 mins and it just gets better. Hey whats this, "Another Girl Another Planet" to end, ha no, its "Sleep the Clock Around" and is this the full cacophony or what, everyone seemingly at full pelt, but WHAT a sound. Naff hotels and bad hangovers are forgotten, this is the place to be, here right now, no matter the cost.... On the way out, opinion landslide that tonight swamped last, off home to recover from a whirlwind time.. Hm, back to the "sounds like X" thread, anyone agree that We Rule The School has the solo straight from Streets of London by Ralph McTell ;-)) Just my 200 dollars ;-) OK, slaggings-off welcome. -- Stuart ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Sun Jan 4 14:19:45 1998 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (u01cjtc) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:19:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Century of ... Message-ID: Just thought I'd say, if you listen very closely to Century of Elvis, in the bits where Stuart D is quiet you can hear Stuart M singing Century of Fakers. I only noticed for the first time last night. cheers Colin (shaft) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Jan 4 15:13:36 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 15:13:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sarah'z talking bollocks - ACTUALLY belle and sebastian related! wonders never cease. Message-ID: hi de ho neighbours! well, some of you sat next to me in the pub before STAURDAYS gig so you ALL count as neighbours!!! heres my two pennorth. i only went on Saturday, i was very close at the front. i thought Get me away from here i'm dying was lovely. i thought i don't love anyone, was also lovely. i didn't know all the cover versions and new songs, but i paid attention to try and see what they were etc. i *actually* didn't know what to expect from a band like Belle and Sebastian. this is my first *non-ROCK* gig really. for me, i was happy looking at Stuart Murdoch when he was my side of the stage. bad bits! i had to kinda tune out and look at the suroundins whe he'd gone. of course i didn't like that. but to tell you the truth if we wanna be like that thatere a few things that we would all *change* if we could, to make our own perfect little band. well, they're not *ours*. Part of why i like them is tha fact that they are normal LOVELY people making sensitive songs. So, i will put up with these things and not fucking slag them off all the time becaseu they didn't have the perfect set up, the note for note album veersions of their songs etc. and so they fucked up at times. i didn't cry about it. to tell you the truth, i didn't think the sound of the recordings on If You're Feling Sinister is that ace. to tell you the truth i almost fell embarrsed listening to Stuarts voice sometimes when he goes too high and weedy. but i'm only saying this cos i'm pissed off. i still love them *despite* that. it seems that i'm the only one who thinks when you love a band, you don't stop cos one of a dissapointment. there is a REASON why lovethem after all? and surely that doesn't change. i'm SURE i haven't seen the best of belle and sebastin. even you lucky SUNDAYERS probably aint seen the best either. i know i haven't but oh boohoo. am i talkinng any sense here? i think i should stick to my usual posts of talking shit about ziggurats. and to whoever asked about the joy Divsion box set being worth it, i just got it and: YESYESYESYESYESESYESYESHESYESYESYESYSEYSEYSYESYESYESYESYESYESYESYSYESYSY SESYES! and as for Steven Wells reviewing a BELLE AND SEBASTIAN Gig...now what the fuck was the point of that! at least he'll slag them of with flair. i may not agree with half a word he says but i'll still credit him with being a great writer. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "I saw the best meals of my generation Destroyed by the madness of my brother My soul carved in slices By spiky haired demons" --Lisa Simpson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Jan 4 15:18:16 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 15:18:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hmmmmm Message-ID: anyone fancy a pint? I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "I saw the best meals of my generation Destroyed by the madness of my brother My soul carved in slices By spiky haired demons" --Lisa Simpson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Sun Jan 4 16:16:37 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:16:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: hi i'm new Message-ID: hi.. my name is roberta and i have been listening to b&s for about 6 months now..i live in florida but am not originally from there..now this next one i am sure you have heard before so... is there a possibility that anyone could make me a dubbed copy of any things i dont have..i have 'iyfs' and a copy of a single that has 'century of fakers'..i could kick myself for not buying a single that was out in may when i was in glasgow visiting relatives..i would be willing to pay, do a trade, buy something stateside that you cant get over there, whatever. thanks.. **oh you look so tired mouth slack and wide ill-housed and ill-advised your face is as mean as your life has been crash into my arms i want you****** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gables at xxx.uk Sun Jan 4 16:40:23 1998 From: gables at xxx.uk (fungi) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 16:40:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sarah? Message-ID: <01bd192f$73d8fe80$LocalHost@default> >Did someone called Sarah send something to the Void? yep - twas me >If you did then well done 'cause I read it and it was great! thank you! well this is my first post so i guess i'd better introduce myslef i'm sarah and i'm 16. i've been on the list about a month. i fisrt head b+s on the mark radcliffe graveyard slot and when i saw the dog on wheels video on alternative nation about 9 months ago i fell uterly in love with them. if you wanna know more about me go to my website: (its very colourful) http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~gables erm... bye! sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sun Jan 4 18:50:06 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 13:50:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Stuart in tha house Message-ID: <199801041850.NAA06517@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear Sinisters, >I don't want to see them running on stage shouting 'Hey Manchester - we're >here to rock you' Yeah and Stuart wearing leather pants and pulling out crying girls from the audience to sing to them,ripping his shirt off and throwing it into the crowd,and dedicating his songs to 'all you lovvvvers out there' and then Stuart David clapping his hands yelling 'Party people! Wave your hands in the air like you just don't care...' hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm What was the SIZE of these shows anyways,was there lots of pushing and jabbing or are people well behaved,I went to a Radiohead concert in August and I almost suffocated and almost got my ribs borken untill some saintly but bizarre guy took my hand and led me to the railing at the front.I don't like big shows like that... do Belle and Sebastian interact with the audience between songs? And does anyone know a band called the Devlins? My friend and I were going to see Titanic (don't make fun,it was good! I thought so anyways..it was sad) and as we passed HMV there was a tiny little gathering and I'm like 'Oh..there's some band called the Devlins' and my friends like 'REALLY! They're from Ireland' so of course I have to run there (have a little thing with english and irish accents) I felt a little bad,didn't have their cd to sign,just a sad looking piece of paper,but the sweet one with long hair smiled and gave me a poster of them and they both signed it,said I had a good name. THey seem so nice,what is their music like? That is terrible about all the stolen Belle and Sebsatian stuff.....was it music collectors who stole or just normalle thugs? Did any of you make new years resolutions? It's been a year but I got the vacuum from the basement and I cleaned my room.... :) Love love to all you lovely people, Genevieve "so it's like this the drink goes to my head and then champagne legs... well lets get out of bed 'Cos we are healthy and we're in love we work out so we can get fucked up" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Sun Jan 4 19:34:47 1998 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 19:34:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stirring up trouble! Message-ID: Thanks to all the people who mailed me privately to agree with my comments on the Manchester shows. Can we all agree on something here? Having a good time with your mates doesn't make the gig any good - it just means you've had a good night out at a shit gig. I had a good time on the Saturday, it was just the performance that was shit but I wouldn't tell anyone that I thought it was a good gig just because I'd had a laugh with my mates. And that comment about naivity that Tag made is ridiculous. Stubbornly refusing professional advice equates suicide in this game. Learn from those that have done it before. Sure, they tried an 'unconventional' set up and I applaud that. They could easily have made it work as well. As a matter of interest, I hear that the band refuse to work with 'corporate' promoters such as MCP, SJM and Metropolis prefering instead to work with Barry from Dingwalls under the Foundation moniker. Does anyone out there really care if they use an independent promoter or not? Who knows the difference? It's not like signing to Jeepster instead of signing to Sony - it's more like making your own guitar because Fender are sell-out corporate bastards. I'd like to see them at the Royal Albert Hall, I think it would suit them and the capacity is about right but has Barry got the money to put up as a deposit? I don't know, maybe he has - but then, will they all be stumped at the first production meeting when the hall start grilling you about flying points and sightline seats? Who knows? And please - I'm not casting aspertions here, I don't even know Barry, I've never done a show at Dingwalls and I'm sure he's a smashing chap (with good taste - he's also doing Tortoise) and it's very possible he DOES have all the relevant experience necessary - I'm just trying to point out the stupidity of (allegedly) refusing to work with 'corporate' promoters. What next? Belle and Sebastian release a 78 on shellac? Oh, and Peter's comment about the Radiohead support - they did get offered that if I remember rightly. I reckon they would've got kicked off after the first gig for having no road crew and hopeless engineers. Good job they turned it down then!... Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ssantos at xxx.edu Sun Jan 4 20:13:41 1998 From: ssantos at xxx.edu (scott) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 12:13:41 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Stateside References: Message-ID: <34AFED75.59E9@engr.csulb.edu> I'm new to the list, so I'll briefly introduce myself. I'm Scott from Southern California. Um, hi! I've been listening to B&S for about 6 months and have subsequently bought everything by them I can find. I found out about this list through the Guided by Voices list (who'd a thought?). Thank you for all the gig discussion. They've yet to show up on this side of the states, but rest assured that when they do, I'll be right in front! > Third, some DC news. The bar Fox & Hounds (17th & Q or so), has IYFS > on the jukebox. Another B&S jukebox sighting. There's a copy of IYFS in the jukebox at the Akbar in Silverlake (LA) thanks to fellow lister Clem (Hey Clem! It *is* still there, isn't it?). He always said it was the best jukebox in Southern California (well, he actually said LA, but I think I can expand on that without error), and with IYFS in it, there's no doubt in my mind. But back to the gig discussions... to recap, I'm scott and I like parentheses, scott ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sun Jan 4 21:43:24 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 04 Jan 1998 21:43:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Stuff ... References: <34ad7cec.638050@email.mcmail.com> <34AE1CA2.5C83F2E4@mail.zynet.co.uk> Message-ID: <34B0027B.E1FFE579@totalweb.co.uk> hi to everyone ... thanks for all the kind remarks etc. regarding the break-in etc. @ manchester. david and i are still just getting back into the swing of things after our glaswegian new years venture, so expect a heap of replys (and opinions) from us over the next week or so. the duke of harringay & Tag wrote: > > > > I dunno about > > anyone else but I had the time of my life in > > Manchester, it wasn't > > just the gigs it was the whole experience > > exactly what i was on about in my other post... > and i think most people would agree with you both .. ie, that includes me (despite being completely exhausted throughout the whole weekend!) > > Why don't we all have a big party? I'm serious > > - I love you each and > > every one! > > great idea, but as always difficult to organise... > so who's game!? > > the duke > well, give us a bit to recover, and david and i will try to get something together ... hey, it's his birthday on the 25th of february ... anyone think of any secret special 24th birthday celebrations for him? mail me at jeepster (jeepster.uk at virgin.net) and we can try to organise something ... ? london preferably ... our gig reviews and merchandise updates later this week .... love, katrina & david. ooh, p.s. before i forget! i was chatting to stevie and adrienne (his lovely girlfriend) on the friday night after we'd all checked in, and they were telling me how they go through the archives of the list at adrienne's work. anyhow, he told me that i had got nearly all the lyrics to seymour stein correct, except for a couple of lines, and that i should pass the following info on to you all! so, instead of: caught a glimpse of someone's face it reminded me i'd been crying it's: caught a glimpse of someone's face it were mine and i'd been crying and there was another thing, but he couldn't remember what it was! cheers, katrina. -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Nrbqlover at xxx.com Sun Jan 4 22:08:40 1998 From: Nrbqlover at xxx.com (Nrbqlover) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 17:08:40 EST Subject: Sinister: Stateside Message-ID: In a message dated 98-01-04 15:33:01 EST, Scott Santos wrote: << Another B&S jukebox sighting. There's a copy of IYFS in the jukebox at the Akbar in Silverlake (LA) thanks to fellow lister Clem (Hey Clem! It *is* still there, isn't it?). He always said it was the best jukebox in Southern California (well, he actually said LA, but I think I can expand on that without error), and with IYFS in it, there's no doubt in my mind. >> Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Clem Lane and I live in Los Angeles. I'm married and have a 3 1/2 month daughter(her favorite tune is "Expectations" by the way) and have spent the past year madly making tapes of TigerMilk for my American B&S fanatic friends. I also heard about this list through the Guided by Voices list. I am a FANATIC about B&S and would be happy to help out any Stateside listers with a copy of TigerMilk(trades only!!!). I obsessively listen to U.K. lo-fi(shouts to The Male Nurse, Mogwai, and a host of others) and love the Sarah-Shinkansen labels(Trembling Blue Stars ARE TOP). My favorite other bands are GBV, The Brilliant Corners, and The Wedding Present. I lived in London for several years and thanks to my good friend Delia at Rough Trade (she's in two GREAT bands:Baby Birkin and The Family Way - Londoners should check them out)and Rich at Amulet Distribution, I have all the 7" vinyl a Brit-loving Yank in LA could want. So from my vantage point as a lurker for the past week, this list looks terrific. Thanks for all the information on the Manchester shows-now how many of you kids made tapes? cheers, clem n.p. Polarbear-Starfighter Pilot ep ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 00:58:50 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 00:58:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sessions tapes Message-ID: <199801042346.XAA19030@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Can someone please make me a tape of the Radio One Sessions please! I am UK I can supply tape and postage please please please please ( with a pop on cherry ) what a crappy play on words! bye Northy ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From simon.gooch at xxx.uk Sun Jan 4 20:39:38 1998 From: simon.gooch at xxx.uk (Simon Gooch) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:39:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: Manchester Sat versus Sun Message-ID: <1998010420393884572@zetnet.co.uk> Here's my half penny worth: The Saturday was the worst B&S gig I've seen. Simple as that. Unlike the Union Chapel it wasn't magically shambolic. The sound was shite and they knew it (balancing trouble, monitors feeding back, boring, I'll shut up..) and I guess the consequence of that was their pissing about (cf Steve crashing the vocal on Photo jenny with his Xmas harmonica). The Sunday gig was the best B&S gig I've seen. Hardly a tune missing from my (eever expanding) list of favourites. Apart from that Scottish session one with Stuart D reading and the near-free form jazz flourish at the end which they played on Saturday. A new top tune. Oh well. The thing about B&S is, well, they may be the best abnd in the world. But if they get above your criticism then your love is blind. And if your love is blind you'll probably trip up (or something...) Love from Simon P.S. Fuck it's windy down here in London. I'd best go down the pub then... -- *** Luv, hugs and kisses from Simon *** (aka Chipper! Fanzine aka Squirrel Fanciers' Quarterly) simon.gooch at zetnet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From simon.gooch at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 00:19:30 1998 From: simon.gooch at xxx.uk (Simon Gooch) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 00:19:30 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Foundation Promotion Message-ID: <1998010500193084572@zetnet.co.uk> Very quick note about B&S working with independent promoters. It's nowt to do with me, but as far as I can see not dumping people who've been there from the start, helping and loving the band, is one the traits we all love best about the band. Working with people because they care seems, ulitmately, to be the most rewarding way of surviving this murky industry with your intentions and integrity intact. Perhaps that's why they're on one of the few true indies left, work with good old David and Katrina rather than faceless Trinity Street postcards. It's even why this ace list exists in the non-corporate way it does. If everyone sticks together then this current renaissance of left field, like minded artists is gonna flourish under the fat cats' noses. Nah, thats not rose-tinted glasses, thats how things could emerge. How cool would that be... Love Simon -- *** Luv, hugs and kisses from Simon *** (aka Chipper! Fanzine aka Squirrel Fanciers' Quarterly) simon.gooch at zetnet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Mon Jan 5 01:34:20 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 20:34:20 EST Subject: Sinister: I hear it with a hiss. . . Message-ID: <986d0ded.34b0389e@aol.com> Does anyone know what exactly who I can only assume is Isobel goes on about at the end of "I Could Be Dreaming"? Was it something written by the band? I find it quite hilarious, especially the part about not being daunted by the largest word in the dictionary. Living and loving, Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From CARRICK44 at xxx.com Mon Jan 5 04:21:22 1998 From: CARRICK44 at xxx.com (CARRICK44) Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 23:21:22 EST Subject: Sinister: a to zed of Glasgow? Message-ID: <31234e7.34b05fc4@aol.com> hello from connecticut, (neat name, huh?) First time, long time (talk-radio reference which isn't actually true, since im by no means a long time listee, a week or so actually. but in these fast times, a week is quite a long time). Enjoyed all the talk of the shows in Manchester, especially the stories of the left banke cover and 'in a nutshell' being sung by isobelle. This band can't really get much cooler. pop smarts, wonderful lyrics and soul. The search for the young soul rebels is finally over. Anyway to my question/request. I'll be in the greater Glasgow area in about a weeks time and would appreciate any helpful suggestions as to what to see, where to shop, where to eat, drink, and especially where to record shop. And how has the weather been? I'll be in London as well, so any hints or must- sees there would be welcome. Oh, has the toursit board of Glasgow set up any B&S tour routes like the Beatles have in Liverpool? just wondering. bye for now, love Carrick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 09:36:36 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:36:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hello Peepell - back at work now, NUDE B+S 'member'! Message-ID: <01bd19bd$6aa5dc50$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> How's it going darlings? Hope you all had a nice Christmas break and cheers for everyone being cool at the gigs in Baggy-Land. Nice to meet everyone - and I completely agree with Tag, we all ought to meet up sometime. He's coming to Glasgow in Feb, so we could all go out then. NEWSFLASH: On New Years Eve, a certain Mick Cooke was blowing his own trumpet in George Square, Glasgow. Mick, his brother Alastair and the rest of their merry band were completely butt naked in Glasgow the other week. Indeed, if anyone's been listening to Annie NIghtingale recently, Mick phoned in to tell her what he'd done for New Year and won a prize! He he Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 09:42:32 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:42:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sarah? Message-ID: <01bd19be$3e8c88c0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >well it's true... they made no attempt to hide it >either. check the credits on the sleeve. indeed >because it's not 'the band' is cited as the reason >the ep won't be on any compilation of ep tracks in >the future. I suspect however that mick cook is >the self same mick who played at manchester? and >was referred to as being a member of the band on >the beat patrol thingy. he chose chet baker so he >must be cool :-) > >off to the pub. > >the duke Mick definitely played on Dog on Wheels, and certainly never mentioned anything odd about the recording of it, bar Stuart telling him to "Play like Love". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Mon Jan 5 11:03:39 1998 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 5 Jan 98 11:03:39 Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio Message-ID: <9801051005.AA3606@notesgw.compuserve.com> Two Belle moments on local radio in London last weekend. First Mark Eitzel was on Sean Hughes' GLR show picking his favourite records of the moment. I somehow half-knew he was going to pick Belle & Sebastian and sure enough it wasn't too long before "The Fox In The Snow" piped its pretty way through my little clock radio speaker. Songs are often best heard that way. Mr Eitzel said someone handed him IYFS at a concert in the US and told him he had to listen to it. So he did, and he didn't like it, but then he listened again and now he loves it. So: Mark Eitzel, Ian Broudie, some bloke from Travis, and ermm...Ben Folds. They're taking rock aristocracy by storm. Then yesterday, on XFM's weekly singles review show attention somehow drifted to Belle And Sebastian. One of the reviewers, NME's Steve Sutherland said he liked some of their records but "Didn't really understand them". He challenged the other two to tell him "What they were about" or something, which they couldn't. And I wondered what he was on about. Actually, I'm very pleased to hear that boring old Steve Sutherland is so bemused by them. I mean I don't know what it was that he was expecting to understand about them, and I don't think I'd have much success 'explaining' them (or any band I like for that matter). Would anyone else on the list be able to tell someone like him what Belle and Sebastian 'are about'? Nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 11:16:34 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:16:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Missing the point Message-ID: <199801051112.LAA23942@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Mark wrote: >Maybe you'd be happy if they recorded the next LP by placing a walkman in >the corner of a big room instead of spending a few days in a 'professional' >(oh my god!..) studio and using 'professional (here we go again...) >equipment with a 'professional' engineer. For my part, I'd be happy if it sounded good:-). Some of my very fave records ever are recorded on what you, no doubt, would consider dreadful equipment. So who cares? >And then they could release it on >cassette only without bothering to master it because they've got lives to >lead and they just do things for themselves - fuck the people who funded it >by buying the last record. Now I'm starting to get worried...Belle and Sebastian should do exactly what they feel like doing. If a tape only release is what they wanted, for whatever reason, then they should get right on with it. Although Belle and Sebastian obviously operate within a commercial medium, it's important to remember that this is art...they must do it for themselves! If not, who are they doing it for? For some nameless public who 'deserve' a 'service'? As for 'fuck the people who funded it by buying the last record', those people bought the last record because they wanted a copy of the last record. We were not making a long-term investment in the career of a band. If we don't like the next record, we don't buy the next record. Where's the problem? Why is that 'fucking' those who bought the last one? I hate it when folk in the music industry apply some kind of moral pressure for a band to be 'good', which inevitably equates with 'professional'. And the same people seem to get cross when a band does something which seems to sit unhappily with a standard music industry career path. The whole point with taking chances and doing things differently is that the results are going to be a little variable. Doing the unexpected inevitably means that someone won't like the result. >Duke, I think you'll find yourself in a minority here. Sorry mate Proud to be in a minority, as ever, tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Fri Jan 2 16:14:11 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 16:14:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs) Message-ID: <199801021549.PAA15436@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> I wasn't there on the Saturday and a lot of people do seem a bit miffed by the proceedings but I have to say again that the sound quality on Sunday afternoon was fantastic; the clearest most perfect noise I've ever heard at a gig. Was it different machines? or just plugged in properly? I think the points made about safety are also very significant. But on a lighter note - 2 things. 1. For the first time in my life I picked up a bargain in the new year sales today. I bought this black corduroy outfit for 50% off! So if anyody's having a party and they need someone to lend a certain insouciant glamour then let me know (and I'll ask around...). 2. Also bought Wu-Tang Forever. FANTASTIC. Anybody with the slightest hip in their hop should get it at their earliest. xxxxx John No snogging at new year :( >---------- >From: Mark[SMTP:mark at xxx.uk] >Sent: 02 January 1998 13:55 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Telling it how it is.... (Manc gigs) > >This post is critical of B&S and technical. Read at your peril! > >Congratulations to Paul Clarke for daring to make 90% of the listees cry by >saying that Saturday was shit. He is right - they were so bad I almost >couldn't be arsed to go to the Sunday gig. >He is also correct to say that if they're only going to play a handful of >shows a year, the very least they could do is rehearse properly for them. > >I'm a concert promoter for a living and a lot of things worried me about >the gigs.... > >The PA was shit. As was the company that supplied it and also the FOH >engineer. >On the Sunday, two people were sitting on a 100Amp 3 phase cable near to >the C-Form / Camlock connectors. Not only is this highly dangerous, it also >breaches Health and Safety regulations. As a rule, mains cables should be >flown, but if they are laid across the floor, they need to be covered with >a carpet or something similar. Someone, could easily have been killed by an >electric shock the way the PA crew had left it. > >The idea of a circular stack is interesting but not very practical, >especially with the hopeless engineers the band had employed. There were >'hotspots' all over the room which meant you had to walk around to find a >good spot where you could see AND hear. Delay stacks in all four corners >would have improved things as B&S are a very quiet band. Also, one stack >doesn't allow for a stereo separation which might have helped relieve the >tinny 'vocal PA' style sound. > >The PA boxes, aside from being underpowered, were useless for the type of >music B&S play. Also, given that Stuart Murdoch has an unusual mic >technique (ie. he stands about 4 inches away as though he is scared of it), >I don't think a bog standard SM58 was the right choice. It made his voice >sound thin and tinny. > >The sign of a good Front of House engineer is one who is constantly >tweaking things. In a live situation, it is nigh on impossible to attain a >'perfect' sound as the variables are changing all the time. Belle and >Sebastian's engineer seemed more concerned with taking photos and chatting >to mates. They should have sacked him on the Saturday. > >All of this could be overcome by employing a reputable production manager >and doing some proper pre-production rehearsals. It's not as if the band's >schedule is killing them - they hardly do any promotional work at all - so >they've got plenty of time to sort out the live situation. A production >manager would ensure the PA is suitable for the band's sound, locate a >decent FOH engineer, assist Stuart with his mic problems (the records are >great so he obviously doesn't have a problem in the studio), get them some >instrument techs to avoid a repetition of the cello debacle and basically >shake them up. > >I don't want to see them running on stage shouting 'Hey Manchester - we're >here to rock you' and playing a polished set with scripted intros to each >song. That wouldn't be Belle And Sebastian. Hell, I don't even mind Stuart >forgetting the words, that is all part of the appeal. What I do object to >is paying twenty quid for two gigs where no thought has been given to the >production of the show and someone is pocketing the cash from cutting >corners. > >Maybe they should think about this and employ some professionals before >they next venture out. If they don't, the live audiences will dwindle and >they'll be back to playing libraries and cafes where no-one minds if it's >shit because they've only paid three quid to get in. > > >Mark > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Mon Jan 5 11:46:11 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:46:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: and parts of ancoats where i used to play... Message-ID: <80256583.0041220C.00@bull.co.uk> that was very strange, the way they played 'matchstalk men' on the sunday night as it had been in my head all week after seeing Ancoats in the A-Z on saturday afternoon. actually, i've always thought they were singing about hangcoats, those hooks on the backs of doors. hey, i was young... (once!). always thought it odd that someone would want to paint parts of hangcoats. i mean, why not paint the whole thing? yeah, sound was a bit muggy at times but, hey, it was a live gig... and i'd rather hear isobel singing orange juice songs over a muggy p.a. than not hear isobel singing orange juice songs. and don't complain about the gaps between songs because they weren't really there (apart from the long one where the cello died - 'that cello doesn't need a doctor it needs a priest!'). saturdays gig was 80 minutes, sunday nights was 90 minutes and both contained 16 or so songs. and, anyway, it seems that most of what people will remember about the weekend happened outside the town hall. 4 or 5 miles outside in my case... was nice to meet those of you i did and will see the rest of you next time. and, hey, the dj on sunday played the original of 'kinky love' by nancy sinatra (later covered wonderfully by the pale saints) which i have been dying to hear ever since i knew it existed so... oh, and bumped into chris and his brother andy at manchester station the day after and, well, it looks like chris's passion for wearing wide bottomed trousers is genetic... strange that he was travelling back alone - 'yeah, they're trying to get rid of me - first they put me on a separate stage and then they won't let me ride in the van' and if anyone has a decent tape of the matinee show then get in touch and i'll swap you for one of the others. i'll offer tapes to everyone else in due course but at the moment i'm only really interested in trades. ok? and amanda, i have your mug and will post it when i've found suitable packaging. you ought to thank dave for this btw as he kept it to one side for me... andy not in a muddle at all, thankyou. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 11:57:35 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 11:57:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio References: <9801051005.AA3606@notesgw.compuserve.com> Message-ID: <34B0CAAF.2A1F2CFA@easynet.co.uk> Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB wrote: > Then yesterday, on XFM's weekly singles review show attention somehow > drifted > to Belle And Sebastian. One of the reviewers, NME's Steve Sutherland > said he > liked some of their records but "Didn't really understand them". He > challenged > the other two to tell him "What they were about" or something, which > they > couldn't. And I wondered what he was on about. Actually, I'm very > pleased to > hear that boring old Steve Sutherland is so bemused by them. I mean I > don't > know what it was that he was expecting to understand about them, and I > don't > think I'd have much success 'explaining' them (or any band I like for > that > matter). Would anyone else on the list be able to tell someone like > him what > Belle and Sebastian 'are about'? > Aha, Steve's at it again. Irritating the shit out of me, that is. He only impinges on my life every couple of years or so, but each time without he's making some smart-arse self- congratulatory macho-posturing point or other. The final straw was when he was still writing for the Melody Maker and he insisted on having pops at Tom Waits for no apparent reason e.g. an article about Perry Farrell which basically said Perry was the real deal and Tom was a charlatan 'cos he hadn't lived the music he wrote.. Like a) why Tom Waits ? He wasn't in the news at the time, has no connection with Farrel other than nationality. Just seemed like some personal vendetta which should have found it's outlet somewhere else b) er, Ruby's Arms. It's a song. By Tom Waits. I'm sure Mr. Sutherland wouldn't get this song either. But it makes me cry. Perry Farrell made groundbreaking records with Jane's Addiction which have sat on my record shelf unplayed for umpteen years. And then went on to form the execrable Porno for Pyros. Steve Sutherland is to journalism what Lenny Kravitz is to music. Bother yourself with neither. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Mon Jan 5 12:11:43 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (timminsc) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 12:11:43 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980105121143.007d8bb0@mail.tcd.ie> I have just returned to my email after a wonderful Xmas in Glasgow and have realised that I didn't unsubscribe. I am now wading through 300 messages, boy oh boy!! The first day I returned I met a friend who is very into B&S we were chatting and he mentioned how very Peanuts-esque the music was. Weird, considering the amount of mentions Peanuts had got on this list just before I left. Anyway, Happy new year. Did anyone make it to the 6th anniversary of Goodfoot on the 30th? Well worth sacrificing a drunken hogmanay for. Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 12:14:09 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:14:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Netiquette.........Arse. Message-ID: <01BD19D3.6DBF7660@pc7628> Apparently the Duke of Harringay wrote a load of shite...... However, I have to agree with what young Alistair said...... a) because he's a fellow Exonian and will probably duff me up next time I'm in the Cav; and b) He's right.....Sloppy, unpolished, concerts are all part of the romance with bands like B&S, and lets be honest..they are far from alone in this field. I'd bee a bit more pissed off If I paid good money to go and see a band and they played their latest album straight through and it sounded exactly the same....might as well just stay at home and save yer money. Foresight is a wonderful thing.......I think if Mark and JJ had any foresight at all they wouldn't of had such high expectations of the band. You pays your money and you takes your chances... I'm sure the band didn't lose any sleep over it. -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Mon Jan 5 12:56:47 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (timminsc) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 12:56:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hogmanay gig? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980105125647.007f1c30@mail.tcd.ie> Shit I nearly forgot. On Hogmanay a friend of mine who works in Missing said that B&S were playing in the Halt bar that evening. A lot of people he worked with backed him up. So myself and friends squeezed our way into the bar and squeezed our way out again. No sign of the band but there was somebody playing. We didn't stay to see if the band emerged later on. If anyone knows if they did play or why I would have heard this rumour, please can they reply. I was so excited at the prospect as I couldn't get to Manchester but it didn't work out anyway. sigh. Don't you just hate the first lecture/day of work after Xmas??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Mon Jan 5 12:51:56 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 12:51:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: Blind love and devotion In-Reply-To: <199801051112.LAA23942@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801051112.LAA23942@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34b4d18d.11860734@email.mcmail.com> On Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:16:34 -0000, Tim wrote: > Mark wrote: > > >Maybe you'd be happy if they recorded the next LP by placing a >walkman in > >the corner of a big room instead of spending a few days in a >'professional' > >(oh my god!..) studio and using 'professional (here we go again...) > >equipment with a 'professional' engineer. > > For my part, I'd be happy if it sounded good:-). Some of my very >fave records ever are recorded on what you, no doubt, would consider >dreadful equipment. So who cares? Tim's right - it doesn't fucking matter. I would rather have a rough diamond than a slickly polished turd any day of the week, just as I'd rather listen to a band who can play three chords with passion and beauty than a bloated fretwanking muso with a wallet for a heart. > >And then they could release it on > >cassette only without bothering to master it because they've got >lives to > >lead and they just do things for themselves What on earth are you talking about? This sort of reactionary argument really pisses me off. No-one wants them to sound shit, I just think you can sound great without being slick. >- fuck the people who >funded it > >by buying the last record. > Now I'm starting to get worried...Belle and Sebastian should do >exactly what they feel like doing. If a tape only release is what they >wanted, for whatever reason, then they should get right on with it. Although >Belle and Sebastian obviously operate within a commercial medium, it's >important to remember that this is art...they must do it for themselves! If >not, who are they doing it for? For some nameless public who 'deserve' a >'service'? > > As for 'fuck the people who funded it by buying the last record', >those people bought the last record because they wanted a copy of the last >record. We were not making a long-term investment in the career of a band. >If we don't like the next record, we don't buy the next record. Where's the >problem? Why is that 'fucking' those who bought the last one? This attitude of 'deserving a service' is absurd...if you didn't like the gigs fair enough, you've a right to that, write to them and tell them, write to your fucking MP if it makes you happy, and then get over it. I certainly hope you'll have the courage of your convictions and not go next time, if you feel you were conned. For my part, I enjoyed the gigs, and will go and see them again. It is not, as I said 'blind love', they excite me, they move me and I like that, it's pretty fucking simple. I left behind sycophophantically hanging on a band's every word a long time ago - I certainly won't put up with any old crap just cos it's 'them'. If they make a shit record, I won't buy it, if they play a bad gig, I'll at least think twice about seeing them again. They haven't disappointed me yet, and long may that continue. You try and please fans before being true to yourselves and nine times out of ten you please no-one. > I hate it when folk in the music industry apply some kind of moral >pressure for a band to be 'good', which inevitably equates with >'professional'. And the same people seem to get cross when a band does >something which seems to sit unhappily with a standard music industry career >path. > The whole point with taking chances and doing things differently is >that the results are going to be a little variable. Doing the unexpected >inevitably means that someone won't like the result. Exactly. > >Duke, I think you'll find yourself in a minority here. Sorry mate Apparently not. Love Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 12:02:38 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:02:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Missing the point Message-ID: <01bd19d1$d17077b0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Strange really this gigs bit, I've seen B+S plenty times now, and the Saturday gig was definitely, and by far the worst of the lot (apart from Ashton Lane, the Sunday after the Longest Day where they didn't turn up), but having said that, I didn't really enjoy it any the less. It was still brilliant, yeah, it was a bit unprofessional, and I suppose you could be pissed off about that. Presumably a lot of you won't be going again. You are paying to see a band be what they are - rather than what you want them to be. Incidentally, bad as the gig may have been, I'm told it was a fuckload better than the soundcheck. Chin up chaps. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Mon Jan 5 13:23:35 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 13:23:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I Could be dreaming Message-ID: <199801051318.NAA29032@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> >Does anyone know what exactly who I can only assume is Isobel goes on about at >the end of "I Could Be Dreaming"? Was it something written by the band? I >find it quite hilarious, especially the part about not being daunted by the >largest word in the dictionary. I've been wondering about this since I bought tigermilk. I think she is reading excepts from various books, although, I've still no idea what. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 18:46:39 1998 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:46:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: I sees what i see... Message-ID: Belle and Sebastian Sunday Evening Gig -------------------------------------- I've just returned too Uni and suddenly i have my email powers back, so i would like to wish the list a Happy New Year. Having to read through nearly 900 pieces of mail has given me a bloody great headache and a must admit the delete button has proved a saviour. However... I went to the Sunday Evening gig in Manchester and i must admit that overall i had a great time. I thought that B+S played pretty good. From what i've read from the list it seems that many people were not overly impressed with the Saturday performance. This is indeed a shame. I felt that Sundays performance was pretty good. To be honest i didn't think B+S were superb but it was joy to see them and at times they bordered on brilliance. I do have one major query though... Who's idea was the room setup? As a fan it was bizarre to be part of it, it didn't matter where you were in the room your vision of the band at some point was always obstructed and difficult. Surely for a band so 'fresh' it would have been better and aided enjoyment if there was a more conventional layout. Maybe a more linear approach would have made the sound better too or at least easier to handle. It was as if at times the band were struggling with the whole setup. However... i felt the setup did give the gig a kind of 'unplugged' atmosphere and was easy to relax and 'just' listen. That was cool. I thought the set list was really good with some old favourites and some new songs. The two highlights for me was that 'hush hush' cover tune, haven't got a clue who that was by but it was performed superbly, and secondly about three songs from the end a new song with a catchy guitar riff, good stuff... I think overall the band performed well but i can't help but think that they made their task far more difficult by an obscure setup. Personally i felt that did well with what they had but maybe they should learn to walk before they run? Out of curiosity, where did people(the travellers)stay in the end, i arrived late in the city with my girlfriend and another couple and after getting lost and bothered around the dark streets we decided on the Portland Thistle Hotel. Now before you all start drilling me and labelling a me rich bastard my girlfriend paid for this on Visa(she was scared and cold), i was well impressed as you can imagine. I think they (the hotel folk)were even more impressed with our dress and particularly my Pavement T-shirt!!! Anyway enoughs enough so i better be going. If anyone has any comments go for it... Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 15:04:43 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:04:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: tourniquet Message-ID: <01bd19eb$40beb190$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> > who is Mr Shankley? Frankly, I've no idea. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 15:43:49 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:43:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: frankly Message-ID: <199801051518.PAA15497@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> > who is Mr Shankley? I always thought it was Bill Shankly, legendary Liverpool footy supremo. I never thought to wonder why Moz should be so concerned with his opinion. Let's have a party! John xxx >---------- >From: Keith Watson[SMTP:keith at xxx.uk] >Sent: 05 Jan 1998 15:04 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Re: Sinister: tourniquet > >> who is Mr Shankley? > > >Frankly, I've no idea. > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 16:40:47 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:40:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian .. playing songs for children Message-ID: <01bd19f8$accd9560$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >- Chris - >Young MC: Theme from Shaft (remix of Isaac Hayes original) > >[Chris's well known rap/groove persuasion coming out here - he says he >doesn't want Stuart M to rap on stage necessarily, but he does really] Incidentally, this is a track called "Know How" from the 1989 LP "Stone Cold Rhymin'" which is great and also features the brilliant single "Bust a Move". The Young MC was also well known for having written Tone Loc's hits of the time too. Pop Pickers. Cheers, Keith. (Sorry about this, just catching up on about the last months worth of mail) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 17:50:55 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:50:55 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Phew! Back to the old Foundation Course grindstone after Christmas Time (mistletoe and whining) and all the shenanigins that go with it, I return to find a groaning mailbox, although not as bad as it could be because of other impoverished studes wi'out computadoras for the festive period and therefore not sending tons o' mail to the list. Firstly: BIG NEWS! On Christmas Eve I got an unconditional offer from Oxford Uni for the Fine Art degree...Yipee! Hoorah! Assorted expressions of glee and merriment! I can now become a posh cow and justify my previous pretensions...not really, I'll just stay the middle-class cow I've always been and enjoy it so there. Secondly: Blimey! Heated debates a-go-go on t'list between those still umbilically-attached to their computers over Christmas or what? I didn't go to ANY of the gigs, you sods(my tiny hands are frozen, orphan face pressed up against the glittery window of B&S gigdom), so I hope you feel shamed into appreciating the marvels and incompetence which you were fortunate enough to witness. Toujours gai, Archie, toujours gai... Thirdly: Being a flautist of some renown(ie. people see me coming, say, "Bloody Hellfire, it's her again" and scarper) and having nothing to do/ For a minute or two, the other day I set myself to learning the flute/xylophone/whateveritis solo from We Rule The School. Christ! Emajor! That, children, is four(count 'em) sharps(hence somewhat of a bitch to play at first), ut did I let that daunt me? No! I can now grace any recital of your choice with this twiddling wee thingie, for all the use that's ever going to be. Suggestions of any other B&S (or anyone else for that matter) twiddly bits for me to while away the hours wrestling with would be appreciated. Fourthly: Well, that's about it for today, children, so I'll just sign off while simultaneously also swearing my eternal devotion to the great god that is Stuart Staples' boozy old voice(as this seems to be de rigeur on ye olde liste these days), second only to our own deliciously-weak reed, the Murdoch himself. Well, that was a rather long email for me. I need a cup of tea and a lie down(for which I will require to actually go home). Therefore: tata fer noo. Lots of something, Liz (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ************************************************************************ **** O life is a glorious cycle of song: A medley of extemporanea; And love is a thing that can never go wrong; And I am Marie of Roumania. Dorothy Parker ************************************************************************ *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Mon Jan 5 17:46:05 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:46:05 EST Subject: Sinister: Blind love and devotion Message-ID: Just some commentary from a jealous B&S fan in the states: Imagine my surprise to come home from sunny climes and see a brawl here, when I thought there would be all sorts of exultation and that I would be turning green with envy. And I say, "Go Duke!" :) It sounds like the shows in Manchester were much like the 3 shows here in NY last fall. The first, the PBS taping, was very rough. The band was set up rather awkwardly in a sort of open circle and the sound was all over the place. I was sad that I couldn't hear the vocals, as I am a "lyrics" person pretty much, but I didn't get pissed off at the band for it. I thought they were pretty much shy and nervous and actually found it pretty endearing (being a mom and all). They knew it wasn't all that good, because someone wrote an apology for the show to my son with their autograph. I would have been livid if I thought the band weren't "trying" or were taking the audience for granted, but it was none of that. Just seemed to be awkwardness and that just happens. They seem to want to do things their own way and that is their right. Eventually something will click, and there were moments of that. By Sunday's show, they were superb! It met all my long-built-up expectations, and everyone seemed more confident. Again, as a mom-person, I was relieved for them. I didn't see the Saturday show, but the consensus was that Sunday was the best of the three, as in Manchester. I just felt kind of lucky to see the "progression" from awkward to beautiful. It's that way with bands you love: sometimes they give a crap performance, but you go with that knowing you'll hear something wonderful another time. There are some performers that I see over and over and I can't imagine a perfect performance each and every time -- you're dealing with people, not programmed robots. They don't owe me anything at all. The fact that they can make beautiful music is something I'm willing to wait to hear. If one isn't ready to accept that with this band, then it's just time to say they aren't your cup of tea and move on. Quietly. If your perspective is not only musical, but "technical" as well, then maybe you get pissed off that things weren't done "right." I've been at shows that were so badly run that the evening was a complete hell, but I rarely blame the band. More often the crowd for not adapting to it and making it bearable, or whatever. You can always sail right out the door if you don't like the experience and can't make it something you enjoy. Well, just had to put my 2 cents worth in. Much as I love a good brawl, I hope I didn't extend this one any farther than it needed to go.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From vinccen at xxx.com Mon Jan 5 17:54:56 1998 From: vinccen at xxx.com (Vicente Perez) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 09:54:56 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19980105175456.1873.qmail@hotmail.com> subscribe sinister ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 17:54:35 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:54:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: CAN WE LET THIS LIE NOW PLEASE!!!!! Message-ID: <7Dfi8FAb5Rs0Ew$x@elsato97.demon.co.uk> LISTEN!!!!! Some of us only went to the Sat gig and we are grateful for all we got! I spose that is not the way it should be but for me it was and if you don't shut up and i am going to cast a magic star spell on you TO SHUT THE F**K UP! And what about the people that didn't even get to them!!! aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! what the hell is the point? to us who only get to a gig a couple og times a year if fucking lucky due to living in them darn sticks called Warton (even tho mansun and Ciornershop playing soon - wow. well if it works out i'll try and go.) any Belle and Sebastian thing to us desperate kids is marvellous. fuck it i've lost and won the arguement already. whingers! shut it!everyone complaing went on th Sunday anyway so......... fuck it again. i'm going to listen to um, the evening session. aint done for ages. why not? sarah calms down, breathes deeply and says the magic words : I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "I saw the best meals of my generation Destroyed by the madness of my brother My soul carved in slices By spiky haired demons" --Lisa Simpson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From patacsil at xxx.edu Mon Jan 5 18:44:38 1998 From: patacsil at xxx.edu (Dominic N. Republic) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 10:44:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Us fun-loving Americans In-Reply-To: <199712250621.WAA07358@mailtod-112.bryant.webtv.net> Message-ID: no you are not the only belle & sebastian fan. i am a fan here in los angeles. dominic n. republic(!) www-scf.usc.edu/~patacsil he tries so hard to please www-ucs.usc.edu/~dominicp he's just so keen for you to listen but no one's listening... On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, jaysen kralovetz wrote: > So... > Am I the only American Belle & Sebastian fan or what? Maybe they're not > Oasis-ish enough for our grunge-loving music consumers...it's so very > sad. Please tell me I am not alone. > > Jaysen. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Jan 5 19:31:54 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:31:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: pop stars love them! Message-ID: <199801051931.OAA03710@Vector.inexpress.net> >Date: 5 Jan 98 11:03:39 >From: Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB >Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio > >Two Belle moments on local radio in London last weekend. First Mark Eitzel was >on Sean Hughes' GLR show picking his favourite records of the moment. I >somehow half-knew he was going to pick Belle & Sebastian and sure enough it >wasn't too long before "The Fox In The Snow" piped its pretty way through my >little clock radio speaker. Songs are often best heard that way. Mr Eitzel >said someone handed him IYFS at a concert in the US and told him he had to >listen to it. So he did, and he didn't like it, but then he listened again and >now he loves it. So: Mark Eitzel, Ian Broudie, some bloke from Travis, and >ermm...Ben Folds. They're taking rock aristocracy by storm. Travis too! (Well one of) Is it Fran (such a sweet thang)? I have another name for your list...Mat Osman from Suede.... >Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:50:55 -0000 >From: ELIZABETH DAPLYN >Subject: [none] >Secondly: > Blimey! Heated debates a-go-go on t'list between those still >umbilically-attached to their computers over Christmas or what? I >didn't go to ANY of the gigs, you sods(my tiny hands are frozen, orphan >face pressed up against the glittery window of B&S gigdom), so I hope >you feel shamed into appreciating the marvels and incompetence which you >were fortunate enough to witness. Toujours gai, Archie, toujours gai... I didn't get to see the shows either, oh the dream of seeing a Belle and Sebastian show! None of the bands I like ever come here,and when they do come here I can't see them anyways because all the shows are usually 19+ and then (if i go to sneak in or just meet them) all these posh girls in fishnets carrying roses are evil to me cause they think I'm a groupie/teenybopper. Anyways,I'm gonna keep sitting here and "wishin' and praying' and hopin'" we'll get some North American tour dates (seems pretty unlikely,if they only play a couple of shows per year) they are very welcome to play the snowy fields in Quebec anytime....hint hint.. kiss kiss, Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 19:47:01 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 19:47:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: tourniquet In-Reply-To: <01bd19eb$40beb190$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > > who is Mr Shankley? > > > Frankly, I've no idea. Frankly, Mr Shankley? ..... ask Mr Smiths. > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nioannidis at xxx.gr Mon Jan 5 20:22:15 1998 From: nioannidis at xxx.gr (Nicholas Ioannidis) Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 22:22:15 +0200 Subject: Sinister: tourniquet References: Message-ID: <34B140F6.9367BC94@ath.forthnet.gr> > > > who is Mr Shankley? > > > > > > Frankly, I've no idea. > > Frankly, Mr Shankley? ..... ask Mr Smiths. > > > Mr. Smiths says...EMI ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From saguillo at xxx.es Mon Jan 5 20:46:21 1998 From: saguillo at xxx.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jose_M=AA_Saguillo_Segovia?=) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:46:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: MADE IN SPAIN Message-ID: <19980105205715.AAA8442@10.0.1.1.inf> HI I just write to say that I've seen B&S once, last september in barcelona and for me was one of the best moments in the past year. I think B&S is the greatest band appeared in the uk for the last decade of fakers. bye for now Jose Maria ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrewn at xxx.edu Mon Jan 5 20:51:18 1998 From: andrewn at xxx.edu (Andrew Hung Nguyen) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:51:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Very little B&S content Message-ID: I quickly read an article about a band called Holiday in CMJ. They were recommended if you like B&S. Does anyone know anything about them? Thanks, Andy B-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Mon Jan 5 21:01:16 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:01:16 -0800 Subject: Sinister: B&S videos?? pah, not in this country Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF03075315@amerwksnt01.xil.com> How unfair, it seems their videos get played on MTV Europe, but I doubt one has ever aired here in crazy yankland - Can anybody tell me if that's true???? I stopped watching 120 Minutes ages ago... Hmm I bet if one did air it would end up on "12 Angry Viewers" so those halfwits could tear it to shreds in favor of some ridiculous puffdaddy or Bush rubbish:-( (Or else it would be on M2 so that only the approx. 4 people who get that will ever see it) tata Tara ***If anybody has their videos on tape and is willing to make a copy, I will gladly pay....*** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Mon Jan 5 22:22:01 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:22:01 EST Subject: Sinister: Holiday Message-ID: <472843b2.34b15d0b@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-05 16:02:40 EST, andrewn at ea.oac.uci.edu writes: << I quickly read an article about a band called Holiday in CMJ. They were recommended if you like B&S. Does anyone know anything about them >> Holiday were a four piece from Yale. They put out two albums on March Records (chicago) and a third, after they had officially split up, on Spin Art. The first album is a classic, and all three are essential pop listening. Josh, the singer, did a solo show last year with the Divine Comedy in NYC and he played Get Me Away From Here. . . The band also played on the Jason Morphew album (Ba Da Bing Records). Seek them out. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Mon Jan 5 23:47:36 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 98 23:47:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: CAN WE LET THIS LIE NOW PLEASE!!!!! Message-ID: <199801052346.XAA18647@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Re: the gigs, Sarah, sarah at elsato97.demon.co.uk wrote: >And what about the people that didn't even get to them!!! > >aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! >what the hell is the point? Just the question I was going to put. Loads of good points have been scored between the warring parties, but that's just what its beginning to feel like - point scoring. A suggestion of more professionalism (gigwise) leads to the idea that professionalism is the province of the bland stadium rock monster, and all sorts of 'us Vs them' comments are soon woven into the ever-growing argumentŠ All bollocks of course, and even more so if,like me, you weren't even there! And Tag sums it all up: >I certainly won't put up with any old crap just cos it's 'them'. >If they make a shit record, I won't buy it, if they play a bad gig, >I'll at least think twice about seeing them again. >They haven't disappointed me yetŠ Nor me!!! My main fear - unjustified at the mo'- about the band (and a way to change subject) is that they'll begin releasing dodgy split singles (nigh on impossible to get hold of unless you are super-obsessive or a 'Record Collector' advertiser) and import only 7-inch accoustic twangings: If this sounds ludicrous just look at the likes of Stereolab or Sebadoh, and where Arab Strap appear to be heading. personally, I find a likable thing (one of the many) about the band is the availability, Tigermilk aside, of the records (in the UK anyway) and they all sound professional enough for me! First list-post of the New Year, The Laird of East Fountainbridge Oh, Keith W, what was that you said on Saturday at the club about a meet up/booze up? Could you confirm anything? "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From vegus at xxx.no Tue Jan 6 00:18:47 1998 From: vegus at xxx.no (Stein Vegusdal) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 01:18:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S gigs in Scandinavia... Message-ID: <34B17867.6A52BEDE@a.sol.no> Hi! I'm another newcomer to this list and i believe, the first one from Norway! I've been a serious fan of "scottish pop" for some years now, ( Early BMX Bandits, TFC, Captain America, Eugenius, Mogwai, Urusei Yatsura, Arab Strap, Delgados....) and my fascination for the "highlanders" became even bigger when i came across IYFS a couple of months ago. Since then i've bought practically everything B&S. (got a copy of "Tigermilk" on Minidisc...) Now on to my main message: Theres been a lot of roumours (here in Oslo) lately about some B&S gigs in Norway and Sweden. The roumour says that the gig in Oslo was supposed to take place in a big church in the center of town called "Oslo Domkirke" in the beginning of february, but has been delayed until late March due to som venue-problems in Sweden. The gigs in Sweden are supposed to take place in Stockholm, Lund and Malmoe. Does anybody else know anything about this? Cheers Stein Vegusdal Mail: vegus at a.sol.no ----------------------------------------------------------- "Have you seen that girl? With the blood-shot eyes With the razor-sharp teeth And the hungry smile..." Club Molluska - Guided By Voices ----------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 00:08:47 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 00:08:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hogmanay gig? References: <3.0.1.32.19980105125647.007f1c30@mail.tcd.ie> Message-ID: <34B1760E.C7747633@totalweb.co.uk> timminsc wrote: > Shit I nearly forgot. On Hogmanay a friend of mine who works in Missing > said that B&S were playing in the Halt bar that evening. A lot of people he > worked with backed him up. So myself and friends squeezed our way into the > bar and squeezed our way out again. No sign of the band but there was > somebody playing. We didn't stay to see if the band emerged later on. > If anyone knows if they did play or why I would have heard this rumour, > please can they reply. > I was so excited at the prospect as I couldn't get to Manchester but it > didn't work out anyway. sigh. we have a friend who works in Missing, and we told her about the gig after Stevie's girlfriend invited us. Stevie did play a short set of various tracks in the small bar just before quarter to Midnight, included were a few covers like The Carpenters "Top of the world". It was a lovely night with Chris, Richard, Neil, Chris's brother amoungst others turning up to offer their support. so there you go, you heard it from us (2 people down the whisper line), and it did happen. also, Sandy Nelson (who in the Century Of Fakers video was the one who opened the Java café) did a little guitar set of satires. It rates as the funniest thing I've ever heard, so if you're in Glasgow and see him advertised as playing anywhere, go see him. david kitchen @ the fanclub -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Tue Jan 6 02:06:50 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:06:50 EST Subject: Sinister: Pets vs. B&S Message-ID: <2704625f.34b191bd@aol.com> Over the weekend I bought the new Pastels album _Illumination_ and a certain Isobel Campbell plays cello on it. However, do not get too excited since I have only heard cello once on it, but it is a lovely three seconds when you do. And the rest of the album is lovely also. Two posts about Isobel is as many days--does this nominate me for her fanclub? In more serious news--my cat took a sudden dislike to my B&S poster that was biding its time, rolled up by the bookcase, waiting to be hung on the wall. One second they were both minding their own business and the next, my cat Bridget had the poster in a death grip. I separated the two and sent them back to their respective corners. I still love my cat, but I had to hang the poster on the wall. No more repeated attacks. Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Jan 6 02:18:35 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:18:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: CAN WE LET THIS LIE NOW PLEASE!!!!! In-Reply-To: <199801052346.XAA18647@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: for fucks sake, if i have to read another message debating professionalism etc etc etc i am going to be placed in a padded cell. enough said. laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 10:19:17 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:19:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Century of ... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 4 Jan 1998, u01cjtc wrote: > Just thought I'd say, if you listen very closely to Century of Elvis, in > the bits where Stuart D is quiet you can hear Stuart M singing Century of > Fakers. > I only noticed for the first time last night. > > cheers > > Colin (shaft) > You're right: my sister pointed that out to me the first time she heard it, and i was gutted i hadn't noticed. but then, i'm getting old and deaf as well. Love to you all Alastair > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 10:36:33 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:36:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: CAN WE LET THIS LIE NOW PLEASE!!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Laurel Girvan wrote: > > for fucks sake, if i have to read another message debating professionalism > etc etc etc i am going to be placed in a padded cell. > (can i join you in it?) alastair > > enough said. > > laurel > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul_Clarke at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 10:51:45 1998 From: Paul_Clarke at xxx.uk (Paul_Clarke at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 10:51:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: In a minority, and proud of it Message-ID: <0003CD40.1736@ipc.co.uk> Someone said: As a fan it was bizarre to be part of it, it didn't matter where you were in the room your vision of the band at some point was always obstructed and difficult. Surely for a band so 'fresh' it would have been better and aided enjoyment if there was a more conventional layout. I imagine the layout of the hall was some kind of compromise between the band and someone who lives in the real world... a conversation along these lines no doubt occured: B&S: This new gig of ours, we want it to be as WACKY as possible... could we perhaps do it on the moon? SITRW: Someone in the real world: Hmmm, no. B&S: How about underwater somewhere? SITRW: Hmmm, no. B&S: What about down in a coal mine, the acoustics must be pretty inconducive to pop music down there? SITRW: Hmmm, no. B&S: I know, inside a huge open structure, like one of those inflatable gas containers... and we'll use FLAME POWERED AMPS! SITRW: Hmmm, no. B&S: Well, a high ceilinged barn that's short on atmosphere and where you can't drink or smoke is a DEFINITE. SITRW: Obviously away from London, you don't want to make it easy for the press to review you. B&S: Right, could you arrange the stage so that the band are in a different room to the audience? SITRW: Hmmm, no. B&S: What about hanging us from the ceiling, in all four corners so we're difficult to look at? Maybe the whole gig could be UPSIDED DOWN! BONKERS! We could tie all the audiences to the floor, and gaff tape their faces downwards so it's IMPOSSIBLE TO SEE US! And we could all swap instruments after EACH BAR instead of just each song! And we could roll dice to decide what song to play, but no-one is allowed to tell anyone else what song we're playing! SITRW: I know you don't like to compromise, but how about you do a gig in the middle of a sunday afternoon in a church hall, with the stage crowding round the audience, and the band all split up? It's not perfect, but it's quite inconvenient for the fans? B&S: BRILLIANT! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Jan 6 11:57:08 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 11:57:08 GMT Subject: Sinister: Stars of Track and Fjord (revisited) In-Reply-To: <34B17867.6A52BEDE@a.sol.no> References: <34B17867.6A52BEDE@a.sol.no> Message-ID: <34b90632.5754520@email.mcmail.com> Oh wow! Regular readers will know about my penchant for all things Scandinavian, so when... On Tue, 06 Jan 1998 01:18:47 +0100, Stein wrote: >Hi! >I'm another newcomer to this list and i believe, >the first one from Norway! (Not quite, but welcome nonetheless) >Now on to my main message: >Theres been a lot of roumours (here in Oslo) >lately about some B&S gigs in Norway and Sweden. > >The roumour says that the gig in Oslo was supposed >to take place in a big church in the center of town >called "Oslo Domkirke" in the beginning of february, >but has been delayed until late March due to som >venue-problems in Sweden. > >The gigs in Sweden are supposed to take place in >Stockholm, Lund and Malmo. ...I was very exicted. By strange coincidence, guess where I was planning to go for my holidays in Spring. This is wonderful news - I'd heard things about B&S playing at the Lollipop Festival in Sweden (a bad idea since they're not exactly a 'festival' group, and a friend of mine is v.serious about putting them on in Lund. Never been to Norway, but Sweden is the coolest country in the world. I'm sure dear sweet Katrina could keep us posted on this. No more 'points scoring' for me re. Manchester gigs - you can sleep easy in your beds, children. Is anyone else made slightly nervous by the fact that B&S read our mail? I sometimes forget that anyone's going to read these, let alone the group themselves, especially if I've been drinking (which of course I rarely do). Hmmmmm... Puss i Kram Sven-Olaf Tagssen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Tue Jan 6 12:48:32 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 12:48:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S gigs in Scandinavia... References: <34B17867.6A52BEDE@a.sol.no> Message-ID: <34B22820.2EFD@virgin.net> Stein Vegusdal wrote: > Now on to my main message: > Theres been a lot of roumours (here in Oslo) > lately about some B&S gigs in Norway and Sweden. > > The roumour says that the gig in Oslo was supposed > to take place in a big church in the center of town > called "Oslo Domkirke" in the beginning of february, > but has been delayed until late March due to som > venue-problems in Sweden. > > The gigs in Sweden are supposed to take place in > Stockholm, Lund and Malmoe. > > Does anybody else know anything about this? > > Cheers > Stein Vegusdal Can I ask where you got this information from? I know there are a couple of promoters who've contacted Jeepster in regards to putting B&S on, however all have received the same "send us your details, and if the band like what you've proposed, we'll contact you", so no-one should be advertising or planning anything at the moment anyway. As per usual, if anything is going to happen anywhere, you'll hear definite details from Jeepster and the fan-club first ... Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Tue Jan 6 13:02:59 1998 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley wilkinson) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 23:02:59 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio Message-ID: <34B22B83.1829@gil.com.au> Nick Dastoor wrote: >Two Belle moments on local radio in London last weekend. First Mark Eitzel was >on Sean Hughes' GLR show picking his favourite records of the moment. I >somehow half-knew he was going to pick Belle & Sebastian and sure enough it >wasn't too long before "The Fox In The Snow" piped its pretty way through my >little clock radio speaker. Songs are often best heard that way. Mr Eitzel >said someone handed him IYFS at a concert in the US and told him he had to >listen to it. So he did, and he didn't like it, but then he listened again and >now he loves it. So: Mark Eitzel, Ian Broudie, some bloke from Travis, and >ermm...Ben Folds. They're taking rock aristocracy by storm. i think it's great that heaps of people are discovering B&S. but really - does it matter who they are? does it make it any better (or worse) that 'famous' or well known people like them.. does that make the band better? shelley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Tue Jan 6 13:16:35 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:16:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: century of... Message-ID: <80256584.0048FE73.00@bull.co.uk> >Just thought I'd say, if you listen very closely to >Century of Elvis, in the bits where Stuart D is quiet you >can hear Stuart M singing Century of Fakers. >I only noticed for the first time last night. well, at the gig in manchester, stuart m and isobel were singing a modified version: 'everybody's trying to sell us a century of elvis' which was nice... also, despite the fact the stuart d was reading the lyrics from his book they were different. i think a large chunk was missing, the bit about the mezzanine and the way karn would talk to him, and the e-files bit... also, paul made some amusing points about the stage layout. what you have to remember is that there are 8 people on the stage for most of the time so the stage has to be pretty large to accomodate them all. glasgow qmu worked well as it was kinda wide. edinburgh assembly rooms worked well because it was kinda deep. oxford zodiac was neither so there was that island with the keyboards on it (and was a shambles). manchester was just plain weird though. yeah, doing gigs in the round has been going on since before the globe theatre was built. but usually the audience is around the players... 8) (and yes, given that all the staging was brought in it could easily have been arranged into a long, wide stage but i kind of like the way they tried something different) andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 13:45:24 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:45:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio Message-ID: <199801061320.NAA06037@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> I know it doesn't make things better or worse if famous people like B&S - but it is interesting I reckon. It's nice to see the "Good news" spreading. Praise be John >---------- >From: shelley wilkinson[SMTP:rwilkin at xxx.au] >Sent: 06 Jan 1998 13:02 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio > >Nick Dastoor wrote: > >>Two Belle moments on local radio in London last weekend. First Mark Eitzel >>was >>on Sean Hughes' GLR show picking his favourite records of the moment. I >>somehow half-knew he was going to pick Belle & Sebastian and sure enough it >>wasn't too long before "The Fox In The Snow" piped its pretty way through my >>little clock radio speaker. Songs are often best heard that way. Mr Eitzel >>said someone handed him IYFS at a concert in the US and told him he had to >>listen to it. So he did, and he didn't like it, but then he listened again >>and >>now he loves it. So: Mark Eitzel, Ian Broudie, some bloke from Travis, and >>ermm...Ben Folds. They're taking rock aristocracy by storm. > >i think it's great that heaps of people are discovering B&S. but really >- does it matter who they are? does it make it any better (or worse) >that 'famous' or well known people like them.. does that make the band >better? > >shelley >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 13:17:01 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:17:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Scandanavia/HONEYCHILE! Message-ID: <01bd1aa5$60075060$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Just out of interest Katrina, is Jeepster named after the T-Rex song? Also, Paul, we going to meet Chris in the pub tonight then? 6:00 Berts, is that confirmed? Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sami.keinanen at xxx.fi Wed Jan 7 13:56:26 1998 From: sami.keinanen at xxx.fi (Sami Keinanen) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:56:26 +0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S videos?? pah, not in this country Message-ID: <19980106135621927.AAA116@toshiba> I remember quite clearly the first time I heard Belle and Sebastian. I saw their video on MTV, it was June 16. Why I remember it so well, is because Kiss played in Helsinki next day. Afterwards I Tought it was Le Pastie de la Bourgousie, but someone wrote me it was Dog on Wheels? The song was great so I tried to find their cd/lp, but I couldn´t until few weeks ago I went to London and bought every B&S record I found. I´ve never seen any B&S video after June. By the way if there´s people from Norway on the list, is there anyone one from Finland? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 22:09:08 1998 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:09:08 -0800 Subject: Sinister: re: century of... Message-ID: <4B2AD0F0.1272@smlawpub.co.uk> manchester was just plain weird though. yeah, doing gigs in the round has been going on since before the globe theatre was built. but usually the audience is around the players... 8) (and yes, given that all the staging was brought in it could easily have been arranged into a long, wide stage but i kind of like the way they tried something different) I was there on Sunday night. I liked it too, the way the audience was corralled into such a small area, and subsequent band movements caused maximum confusion, and most of us opted to stare hopefully at the empty mike stands, instead of craning our necks to see the top of Stuart M's head ... so I had time to look around me and listen to the songs and watch the steady progress of a wee girl in a sheepskin coat who crept past me and who wouldn't be able to see a thing unless she got to the front. Afterwards, driving to Birkenhead in the pouring rain we talked about how we felt about it. Four people's conclusions approximate as follows: Futile pilot were shite. The stage setup was unconventional, but worked. B&S kept us waiting an awful long time before they came on. But that was OK, because they were brilliant, technical hitches notwithstanding. Maybe a bit more polish next time but who wants slickness? I've seen a lot of bands (beginning with Japan at Edinburgh Playhouse when I was 14 in, er, 1982) and B&S was by turns one of the most moving, and quirky, and funny, and flawed. I think that's a good combination. Even the flawed part made no difference. It was just part of the experience. One note of dissent: I think Orange Juice's version of In A Nutshell could never be bettered. Or is this too dogmatic? Charlotte ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 15:00:28 1998 From: S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk (Stuart Maclean) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 98 15:00:28 GMT Subject: Sinister: re: century of... In-Reply-To: <4B2AD0F0.1272@smlawpub.co.uk> (Charlotte.Hall@smlawpub.co.uk) Message-ID: <13365.9801061500@dsse.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Hi, just reading your B+S bit, just had to reply with the fact that... I've seen a lot of bands (beginning with Japan at Brighton Dome when I was 14 in, er, 1982) !!!! ;-)))))) Just a thought. -- Stuart ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 15:07:10 1998 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:07:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S videos?? pah, not in this country Message-ID: <00044DB5.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> >By the way if there's people from Norway on the list, is there anyone ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:12:41 GMT Received: from toshiba ([131.177.40.40]) by inet.tk-opisto.fi (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA116 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:56:23 +0200 From: "Sami Keinanen" To: Subject: Re: Sinister: B&S videos?? pah, not in this country Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:56:26 +0200 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19980106135621927.AAA116 at toshiba> Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "Sami Keinanen" From plaird at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 17:04:56 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 98 17:04:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: videos Message-ID: <199801061703.RAA10414@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >Anyone know if it's possible to obtain copies of B&S videos? >--Damon I would've thought the first place to try would be Jeepster, which would be for Katrina to answer. However, I've seen an ad for the 'Dog on Wheels' video in Record Collector. It was one track and cost ten pounds UK (not cheap). Address was: Map Records, 11 Gresham Road, Thornton Cleveleys, Lancs., FY5 3EE UK phone no. (01253) 851293 Easier option is to look up their Web site: www.maprecords.co.uk or email them: info at maprecords.co.uk They might also have other B&S videos. Hope this helps. The Laird of East Fountainbridge, "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Jan 6 17:38:30 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 17:38:30 GMT Subject: Sinister: Like Dylan and the Moomins In-Reply-To: <19980106135621927.AAA116@toshiba> References: <19980106135621927.AAA116@toshiba> Message-ID: <34ba67fe.30794264@email.mcmail.com> Moi Of course, this letter is not yet another crap attempt to make crap B&S related puns about Scandinavian national symbols. There is, as ever, a serious side to what I do. On Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:56:26 +0200, Sami wrote: >I remember quite clearly the first time I heard Belle and Sebastian. I saw >their video on MTV, it was June 16. Why I remember it so well, is because >Kiss played in Helsinki next day. Did you go? I think Kiss bring us all together as much as, if not more than B&S. Who, for example, needs that 'bald Brummie' ponce Lawrence from Felt when we've got Gene Simmons 5 foot tongue? I'm sure the Duke would heartily agree. >By the way if there´s people from Norway on the list, is there anyone one >from Finland? In a former life, I was a reindeer herdsman in Lappland. Sadly, I now live in Manchester, but I still yearn to jump in a sauna and listen to Hanoi Rocks. Sami from Suomi, Finland is also the coolest country in the world. You might even call it Super. Moi moi, Kinki Taginen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From itstrue at xxx.com Tue Jan 6 17:01:03 1998 From: itstrue at xxx.com ( Reid) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 10:01:03 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Inconsistency Message-ID: All these discussions of B&S being horrible on Saturday and brilliant on Sunday remind me of the current state of Bob Dylan's shows. Die-hard Dylan fans will admit that going to see a Dylan show these days is a risk: you have as good of a chance to see a horrible show as you do to see a great one. And yes, that might be kind of annoying, but it's kind of fun in a way. Personally, I'd rather see someone do two entirely different shows, one bad and one great, than to see a band do two shows exactly the same way, both decent. B&S don't owe us anything. If you don't like it, don't go. You might be saving your money by missing a crappy show, but you might get your money's worth and get a great show. If we wanted it the same way every time, we'd all stay at home and listen to the album. By the way, I'm enjoying the argument about professionalism. There've been some great points made. I hope that one person who's tired of the argument hasn't scared anyone off. It seems that a discussion on a email list can't go for longer than two days without someone writing in all caps about how SICK they are of it. Just a few observations, ~Reid Oh, by the way, if we're compiling a list of celebs who are B&S fans, we'd best add Jarvis Cocker. --- "You wrote a book about yourself, the people left it on the shelf"" J. Reid Dossinger (Chapel Hill, NC) itstrue at earthlink.net or (alternate) itstrue at mailcity.com AUTOFAC Reviews: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/8002/ Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 17:58:36 1998 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:58:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: shagged out Message-ID: Saturday's final song at the town hall, with the band relatively muted and Stuart M singing and playing in a 'modern rock song' style was pure wonder! anyone know what it was? i forgot any shortcomings in the rest of the set in the wake of that flash of mastery. it even impressed my impartial friend. anyway, i had a great night out regardless. superb venue. the paintings on the lower wall there were the work of ford madox brown (if anyone is interested) & painted in the 1870s when he lived in daisybank road, victoria park, where my bed for the night was. to ice the cake, the first audible line heard from arab strap aiden was a rueful "she was the best shag I ever had" for which he suffered my drunken congratulations afterwards. --rod (bunger) good to meet you: keithwatson david martin daniel pam david n katrina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Tue Jan 6 17:06:01 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 15:06:01 -0200 Subject: Sinister: videos Message-ID: <199801061510.PAA09649@gemeos.electus.com.br> > >Anyone know if it's possible to obtain copies of B&S videos? > I would've thought the first place to try would be Jeepster, > which would be for Katrina to answer. Katrina could put them in her web page.....or in Jeepster page. Real Audio Video RULES :o) Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 18:14:54 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:14:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S videos?? pah, not in this country Message-ID: <01BD1AD0.C1C19150@eagleone> In the Dog on Wheels video the camera lingers on a wall with the following graffiti " La Pastie de la Bouregoisie " This is probably where the confusion stems from let the word spread........... Northy I remember quite clearly the first time I heard Belle and Sebastian. I saw their video on MTV, it was June 16. Why I remember it so well, is because Kiss played in Helsinki next day. Afterwards I Tought it was Le Pastie de la Bourgousie, but someone wrote me it was Dog on Wheels? The song was great so I tried to find their cd/lp, but I couldn´t until few weeks ago I went to London and bought every B&S record I found. I´ve never seen any B&S video after June. By the way if there´s people from Norway on the list, is there anyone one from Finland? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Jan 6 18:26:52 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:26:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Jyoti Mishra Message-ID: <01BD1AD0.E8C9A210@eagleone> TODAY I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM JYOTI MISHRA the bloke who did " Your Woman " - the coolest no. one in the world he emailled me after I sent him a hopeful email while listening to his record. Wow children - he is still out there! Northy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Jan 6 18:49:44 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:49:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Inconsistency In-Reply-To: Message-ID: reid, i didn't use any caps laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Tue Jan 6 19:31:34 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:31:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: yum yum posters Message-ID: <199801061931.OAA29656@Vector.inexpress.net> >Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:06:50 EST >From: PKHINTZ >Subject: Sinister: Pets vs. B&S >In more serious news--my cat took a sudden dislike to my B&S poster that was >biding its time, rolled up by the bookcase, waiting to be hung on the wall. >One second they were both minding their own business and the next, my cat >Bridget had the poster in a death grip. I separated the two and sent them >back to their respective corners. I still love my cat, but I had to hang the >poster on the wall. No more repeated attacks. Sausage and DoDo Head do the same things,only they CHEW on the posters on the wall,any little bit sticking out and Brett Anderson's face is catfood. I didn't know there WERE Belle and Sebastian posters! What does it look like and where'd you get it? ( I imagine they will NEVER have any B&S posters of the actual band right?) Cheers! Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Jan 6 20:55:36 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 20:55:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: yum yum posters In-Reply-To: <199801061931.OAA29656@Vector.inexpress.net> References: <199801061931.OAA29656@Vector.inexpress.net> Message-ID: <34b499ee.562618@email.mcmail.com> On Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:31:34 -0500 (EST), Genevieve wrote: >Brett Anderson's face is catfood. That's true. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Jan 6 22:08:57 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:08:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: yum yum posters In-Reply-To: <34b499ee.562618@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: then i'm sure a kitty, tag, i'll nibble on brett's face anytime......... just see if i won't laurel ;) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Tue Jan 6 22:36:04 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:36:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: They're the tops! (well, we knew that already) Message-ID: Pardon me if anyone else has already posted this, but I recently was skimming through Spin magazine and found that B&S's _If You're Feeling Sinister_ was named one of the year's top 20 albums according to the lovely folks there. Reading this praise of B&S would have been delightful in and of itself, but my discovery of the little blurb in the January issue was especially poignant because it provided an opportunity for me to prove to my sister, Meredith, that I am not crazy for liking B&S. She hates their music, and doesn't understand it can hold any sort of appeal for anyone. "Who likes this crap?" she asks. So it was really nice to have the CRITICAL ACCLAIM right there in print to rub in her face as we boarded the airplane from Flordia to New Jersey. And then I was reading her copy of Entertainment Weekly once we were airborne, and wouldn't you know it, there was more good press for B&S: they were rated one of the year's best up-and-coming artists (or something along those lines...the magazine advised readers to look for them in '98). So there, Meredith! In case anyone is interested, the complete Top 20 list is as follows: 20. Prodigy, The Fat of the Land 19. Wu-Tang Clan, Wu-Tang Forever 18. BELLE AND SEBASTIAN, IF YOU'RE FEELING SINISTER: and the critics rave, "Teensy, but never a toy, not half as frail as their willowy music seems, these Scots couple chaste songs to subtle perversions. 'Nobody writes them like they used to, so it may as well be me," sings group leader Stuart Murdoch, as these sad, swoony songs--nicking everything from Nick Drake to bossa nova to Merseybeat--illustrate keenly." 17. Geraldine Fibbers, Butch 16 Daft Punk, Homework 15. Janet Jackson, The Velvet Rope 14. Various Artists, Return of the DJ Vol. II 13. Roni Size/Reprazent, New Forms 12.Erykah Badu, Baduizm 11. Pavement, Brighten the Corners 10. The Chemical Brothers, Dig Your Own Hole 9. Missy Elliot, Supa Dupa Fly 8. Yo La Tengo, I Can Hear the Heart Beating as One 7. The Notorious B.I.G., Life After Death 6. Portishead, Portishead 5. Bob Dylan, Time Out of Mind 4. Bjork, Homogenic 3. Sleater-Kinnet, Dig Me Out 2. Radiohead, OK Computer 1. Cornershop, When I was Born for the 7th Time Ah, it is so nice to be back at the old computer again. Over vacation I was technologically deprived. Though not B&S deprived, as I had my CDs with me. And I had a "near-gig" experience while we were in Disney World, at Epcot, the Saturday of the Manchester gigs. I saw a rock band playing, and they were all dressed in kilts and one was playing a bagpipe. "A Scottish band," I mused aloud. As close to a B&S show as I was going to get in Flordia. But then the lead singer opened his mouth to introduce the band, and as it turned out, they were not Scottish. Not even British. They were Canadian. That's when I realized I had left the perimeters of Epcot's "England" and had inadvertently wandered into "Canada." But anyway. I digress. Ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "Play me a song to set me free." --Belle and Sebastian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Tue Jan 6 22:29:46 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:29:46 EST Subject: Sinister: yum yum posters Message-ID: <92657cc7.34b2b05c@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-06 16:29:02 EST, mctag at mcmail.com writes: << >Brett Anderson's face is catfood. That's true. >> Brett looks just like KD Lang, and they are both super sexy. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 00:00:56 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 16:00:56 -0800 Subject: Sinister: They're the tops! (well, we knew that already) Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF03077C30@amerwksnt01.xil.com> < ACCLAIM right there in print to rub in her face >> > While in a music store today and checking out Belle info on one of those machines where you can search for information by artist/song title/record/ etc etc, I came across a bit of the "IYFS" review from Rolling Stone: 4.5 of 5 stars! According the the computer, the review was in the July 10-24(?) 1997 issue... so there you go... seek it out and taunt your sis:-) I would be inclined to comment that perhaps America's music taste in general is improving, in light of how many truly good records are making the critics' top 10 lists here... but then with most of the ludricrous Grammy nominations today (not to mention what actually SELLS) I think, "maybe not":-P. tata Tara ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 12:04:11 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 04:04:11 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Manchester...so much to answer for...... Message-ID: Argh....I had this whole thing written out telling of an American's trials and tintinabulations ...going to see Belle & Sebastian in Manchester....but reading back on it....it all seemed to be about some silly boy so I had to scrap it all....at any rate.......the show was total magic, despite missing 4 songs....(wah!!!) and having the shakes the whole time....yeah....sorry Alistair...i'm usually not SUCH a spaz.....great to meet ya bye the by.....and David K...as well....short but sweet...And seeing Andy again was cool... Sad to not get to chat to Katrina tho....the big men in coats rushed us right out.....not sure who else was there as I got there late, and left right after.....it was sort of like a dream.....especially wee Chris's flares.....phooooowar. And of course...that silly boy.....what's with Belle & Sebastian and crushes? Pah. Anyway....i'm glad everyone's saying that Sunday was better than Saturday....cause I was all an ache for missing Saturday..... *sigh* the other email was much longer and more interesting, but that's how it goes..... Manchester....pah..... xxoo beth (totally in a muddle.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 00:03:58 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:03:58 EST Subject: Sinister: yum yum posters Message-ID: <92657aee.34b2c671@aol.com> I am not sure exactly where the poster came from originally. Listee Amanda gave it to me in return for chocolate from England. It is the cover of _If You're Feeling Sinister_--very large and very red. The cover star looks more distressed three times life size than on the CD booklet. When I asked Amanda where she had procured such an enviable item, she ignored my question and changed the subject, or I mumbled and she never heard me. The cats have been ignoring the poster since it was hung up, but I am not sure I trust them entirely. So apparently Stuart M. is no Orpheus and can not charm the animals into submission (only some wistful humans). Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrewn at xxx.edu Wed Jan 7 01:45:21 1998 From: andrewn at xxx.edu (Andrew Hung Nguyen) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:45:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Losing All Your CDs(No B&S content) Message-ID: Recently my mom threatened to sell all of my CDs unless I cleaned them up! The CDs were cluttering up the family which contains our big stereo system with big speakers. After the threat, I quickly proceeded to clean them up in fear of losing my favorite CDs especially IFYS. So I was wondering how everyone else would feel if someone threw away or sold all your CDs? Because I was utterly frightened!!! Andy B-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Tue Jan 6 19:29:12 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:29:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: videos Message-ID: <01bd1ad9$5e0bd0e0$LocalHost@dell> Sorry to bore you all with techy bits, but doesn't RealAudio and RealVideo need a special, expensive server? To add some relevant content: I like it when you can hear Stu singing in Century of Elvis - it's something to listen out for. Rather than whether the Manchester gigs were bad, I have to say that I found Manchester hideous - all those big grey buildings just waiting to topple over on you. The Sunday matinee was wicked - I loved it myself. Does anyone know who the moody people who wouldn't clap were? Were they famous or just very arrogant? I thought the stage was good - I liked it like that - it was less...confrontational. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ -----Original Message----- From: Ivo A P Escossia To: Belle & Sebastian List Date: 06 January 1998 18:11 Subject: Re: Sinister: videos > >> >Anyone know if it's possible to obtain copies of B&S videos? >> I would've thought the first place to try would be Jeepster, >> which would be for Katrina to answer. > > >Katrina could put them in her web page.....or in Jeepster page. >Real Audio Video RULES :o) >Ivo A P Escossia > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Wed Jan 7 12:56:26 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 98 04:56:26 PST Subject: Sinister: talking about b&s Message-ID: hey. lots of you probably already read this but i found it on the pastels web page. (stephen) "Every so often things come along that make you really think about how you feel about things and a lot of the time music seems very controlled so Belle and Sebastian at this point in time seem very political. There's a lot of different reasons why I like them, I think there's a lot of personality in the music, it's very folksy and it's funny, it's intelligent but to me it's quite political. Certain things happen that make me so aware that something's important and the Belle and Sebastian record came out and, as I work in a record shop, we got this package in and it kinda had all this Creation stuff about how they were spending £50,000 on Hurricane #1 and simultaneous to this I got this song which I put on and it was like "you're stuffing your fat face" it seemed incredibly righteous. I got a similar buzz from that record as when I first heard Beat Happening, in a way Beat Happening really made me feel that The Pastels were almost vulgar in their complexity." (Both laugh uproariously) I know what you mean! I just wanted to get back to simpler values. To me what's interesting about Belle and Sebastian is that they're like another recurrence, an uprising, of what'' almost a Scottish archetype. There's an archetypal Scottish band that's come round again and on the one hand they've got a capacity, like The Pastels, for `everyday mythology' and there's something really down to earth Scottish about it, like the warmth of Gregory's Girl, the feel of those times. A school football pitch, in the evening in East Kilbride..y'know? On the other hand there's sophistication, they're real sharp and exciting, out for love and kicks... It's very conversational, it's like if you went to see a nouvelle vague film at the GFT, to listen to someone after it from Glasgow talking about it, in a way, is as illuminating as the film itself. Maybe that's what Belle and Sebastian are. That's totally it, that's totally it! They just seem so punk rock and uncompromising. So much of the music scene is really controlled by industry trends and Belle and Sebastian are really outwith it. What you say about it being an archetype is partly true but it's got a real freshness also that all the best archetypes ever have. At the same time, the archetype is this almost total reinvention of the game again, y'know? It's archetype, it's not copyist. It's paradigm-shifting. It's a whole new paradigm. Again. Yeah, yeah, definitely. That's that one nailed. Absolutely. (Both laugh) i always wanted to say too-de-loo at the end of a letter or conversation so........too-de-loo. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leongmun at xxx.sg Wed Jan 7 08:14:57 1998 From: leongmun at xxx.sg (Leong Mun Wai) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:14:57 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Sinister: videos In-Reply-To: <01bd1ad9$5e0bd0e0$LocalHost@dell> Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, jon g. wrote: > Sorry to bore you all with techy bits, but doesn't RealAudio and RealVideo > need a special, expensive server? > Not if you use http streaming. You won't need to purchase a server then. :)LMW ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 09:41:24 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:41:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A good deed Message-ID: <01bd1b50$6aeea400$LocalHost@dell> My friend phoned me up yesterday and said 'I've got £55 of Christmas record vouchers to spend" I asked "What are you going to buy?" She responded "Urban Hymns" I cursed and swore and told her to buy "If You're Feeling Sinister" That's my fourth convert in a month. Do I deserve a medal? Please say yes. Has anyone else converted loads of people? If you do want to help convert people, go to http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ - where my album of 1997 contest is taking place. Urban Hymns is catching up with If You're Feeling Sinister (I changed the rules so that IYFS would be let in) and if no other b&s people are going to win, the evil ashcroft may win. Quick!! Run!! Or I may have to change the figures subtly!! jon.g at btinternet.com http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 09:50:02 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:50:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Inconsistency Message-ID: <01bd1b51$9fbd82e0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >reid, i didn't use any caps > >laurel Jesus Laurel, post your contraceptive habits privately! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 09:42:10 1998 From: benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk (Coombs, Benjamin (B.J.)) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:42:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 'Tigermilk' has been mentioned Message-ID: Hello, I've only been on this list for a short while, yet 'Tigermilk' has been mentioned quite a few times. Before I joined Sinister I'd never heard of the album. I looked around trying to find it in the shops, but curiously with out much luck. This month the magazine Record Collector, had an article about B& S, stating, (what you probably already knew) that Tigermilk was a limited edition 1000 print release - and if you could find it - would cost 125 pounds... ...I read that and thought ...Bugger. I'd love a copy, but not really at that price tag. Can anyone help? My preferable format would be Minidisc. I could do a minidisc swap or pay for postage and packaging, any ideas, whatever? Much thanks Benjamin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 11:05:07 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 11:05:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A good deed References: <01bd1b50$6aeea400$LocalHost@dell> Message-ID: <34B36163.8463CD8A@easynet.co.uk> Jeez, The bloody Verve. Like, Richard Ashcroft 'really means it, man'. All this album of the year everywhere palaver (sp ?), Haven't got the album, but I've obviously heard the singles, and I'm nonplussed - pleasant enough MOR pop-rock. Lyrics not particularly noteworthy, all just very, y'know, just, er, just, unjust. Oh, and I went to the Sunday night B&S gig with three friends and it was indeed fantastic but I won't say anymore in case I start spacking up someone's attention span. And one last thing. Jon, don't you think getting your friend to spend £55 on a B&S CD is just a wee bit over-zealous ? Mebbes not. laters, Turt jon g. wrote: > My friend phoned me up yesterday and said 'I've got £55 of Christmas > record vouchers to spend" I asked "What are you going to buy?" She > responded "Urban Hymns" I cursed and swore and told her to buy "If > You're Feeling Sinister" That's my fourth convert in a month. Do I > deserve a medal? Please say yes.Has anyone else converted loads of > people? If you do want to help convert people, go to > http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ - where my album of 1997 contest is > taking place. Urban Hymns is catching up with If You're Feeling > Sinister (I changed the rules so that IYFS would be let in) and if no > other b&s people are going to win, the evil ashcroft may win. Quick!! > Run!! Or I may have to change the figures > subtly!! jon.g at btinternet.comhttp://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Katrina at xxx.net> Wed Jan 7 11:15:31 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 11:15:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: stuff ... References: <01bd1aa5$60075060$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34B363D3.A45@virgin.net> Keith Watson wrote: > Just out of interest Katrina, is Jeepster named after the T-Rex song? I think so, yes! I did actually find out the story once before, but Mark had been plying me with drinks, and i can't quite remember the full story ... :( can i just take this opportunity to say thank you to everyone david and i met in manchester for being so lovely and understanding with regards to the merchandise thief thingy. i think that paul has done a fantastic job with this list (big round of applause and pats on the back for the man!!! ooo, and congrats for the indiepop win!), and everyone i have met has been really wonderful, so *sigh* thanks and hello to paul & linda, the duke & duchess, keith, susannah, one of the jj's (i think???), rob baker, lovely jo cairns (ooh, isn't he so sweet!), tag & julian, kate, soozy, sarah, becky, andy dean, ummm i'm forgetting people i know, aaarrgghh, can't remember any more names .... but anyway, thanks to everyone who made me smile over probably the most horrible two weeks of my life. ... and thanks to the band who make my cry (yes, real tears) *every* time i hear "simple things" ... boy, i can't wait for this album. seeyas. cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Wed Jan 7 11:15:36 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 11:15:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: videos References: <199801061510.PAA09649@gemeos.electus.com.br> Message-ID: <34B363D8.309@virgin.net> Hello all ... > > >Anyone know if it's possible to obtain copies of B&S videos? > > I would've thought the first place to try would be Jeepster, > > which would be for Katrina to answer. > > Katrina could put them in her web page.....or in Jeepster page. hmmm, maybe, i dunno ... david's in charge of the jeepster web-site, and we do actually have more bands than B&S, so real audio would probably take up most of our space ... anyhow, i think if you purchase a video from one of those crappy mail-order places, you're liable to be ripped off, as it's probably a third generation copy or something :) ... maybe the vids will be available for sale one day ... maybe ... cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 11:49:05 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 11:49:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: stuff ... Message-ID: <01bd1b62$4157a5d0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> i think that paul has done a fantastic >job with this list (big round of applause and pats on the back for the >man!!! ooo, and congrats for the indiepop win!) Yes, I'd personally like to thank the 9 people who voted for the list too. Had a wee meeting last night between myself, Paul + Linda, Paul Laird and Chris Leonard last night in Edinburgh which was nice. I'm 25 today! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 12:01:25 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:01:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A good deed Message-ID: <01bd1b63$fab01d40$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Jeez, The bloody Verve. Like, Richard Ashcroft 'really means it, man'. All this album of the year everywhere palaver (sp ?), Haven't got the album, but I've obviously heard the singles, and I'm nonplussed - pleasant enough MOR pop-rock. Lyrics not particularly noteworthy, all just very, y'know, just, er, just, unjust. I dunno about that, I think it's a little unfair, I'm sure he does mean what he says, and it's a pretty good album. I'd also easily rate Bittersweet Symphony as one of the singles of the year. What I like about them is the fuckoff big groove they manage to make when they're good, unlike any other white guitar band in the 90's bar the Stone Roses. Having said that, the LP's a bit disappointing really, compared to perhaps what it should have been, B+S are quoted in Melody Maker as saying that Verve are "Hype of the Year" which I'd disagree with, there's pretty much been no hyping going on at all, just reporting on what's happening, now Radiohead, there's a different story... Completely turgid, nothing new at all, I'm in pain etc. etc. This month in Q, Radiohead get the "Best LP of all time", for fuck's sake, nestling next to "Bat out of Hell", "Dark Side of the Moon" and "Tubular Bells" I suspect (Having said that, I'd much rather listen to that lot). So the way I see Verve is more like Sly and the Family Stone doing John Martyn songs rather than just another rock band really. Keith. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bramly at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 13:31:40 1998 From: bramly at xxx.uk (Bramleys) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:31:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: first post, not last Message-ID: <01bd1b70$96478ac0$LocalHost@bramly> Hi there. I have been on this award-winning list for some time now, lurking in the shadows. I have now chosen to jump out. I do not agree with long-winded introductions, so here we are - in a nutshell - I am bethey, I live in Sheffield, and I adore b&s. I attended the Sunday matinee with jon g., and found it beautiful, yet more than slightly mental. I thought that Sarah's odd instruments were an asset, and feel content now I know what that are. My life source of anguish is the ever-present lack of Tigermilk, if anyone can help. Are you happy with yourselves?? Will post soon bethey bramly at globalnet.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 13:38:51 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:38:51 GMT Subject: Sinister: The saturday gig... Message-ID: <199801071338.NAA01004@brookes.ac.uk> My friend Nicky went to the Satturday gig in Manchester, and as an 'outsider' to this list I thought her comments would probably be quite similar to the other people who were also there, and not on the Sinister list: "I thought id drop you a line to tell you about the Belle and sebastian concert at Manchester. Well im afraid it wasnt a patch on the one at the Zodiac. Firstly, we tried to get a limited edition mug and sent kev up to get them but you were only allowed one each so the rest of us missed out and the concert itself was boring, there were people falling asleep towards the end. But the new stuff sounds good so im looking forward to their new album." I told her about the stolen goodies, but couldn't explain the tedium to her !! Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jsaghaug at xxx.no Wed Jan 7 15:37:32 1998 From: jsaghaug at xxx.no (Jan Saghaug) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 15:37:32 Subject: Sinister: Extra tracks? Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.19980107153732.2297b056@mail.online.no> Does anyone know if there are any extra tracks on the Japanese edition of "If you're feeling sinister". Jan .. http://home.sol.no/~jsaghaug/jan.htm - Jackie Leven/Spain/Tindersticks ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 13:06:01 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:06:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S POSTERS Message-ID: <01BD1B6D.01B58360@pc7628> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:03:58 EST Matthew wrote: "I am not sure exactly where the poster came from originally. Listee Amanda gave it to me in return for chocolate from England." I don't want to be funny, but I can't help feeling someone got a bit of a bum deal here. Amanda, you are young.....you will learn by your mistakes. Also. Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:45:21 -0800 (PST) Andrew Hung Nguyen wrote : "Recently my mom threatened to sell all of my CDs unless I cleaned them up! The CDs were cluttering up the family which contains our big stereo system with big speakers. After the threat, I quickly proceeded to clean them up in fear of losing my favorite CDs especially IFYS. So I was wondering how everyone else would feel if someone threw away or sold all your CDs? Because I was utterly frightened!!!" Andrew...I don't know about you but I love my mother dearly and I am an extremely passive fellow. However, should my mother ever sell/throw or give away any of my B&S cd's, I would surely be forced to break both of her legs. -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 14:51:34 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 14:51:34 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199801071446.OAA02269@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> I can't remember if I have suggested this before, but I thought about it a while ago... Why don't jeepster releasing a video with all B&S's music videos, the NY concert and the NY documentary thing? How about it Katrina/Mark? Cheers, John. Katrina wrote: hmmm, maybe, i dunno ... david's in charge of the jeepster web-site, and we do actually have more bands than B&S, so real audio would probably take up most of our space ... anyhow, i think if you purchase a video from one of those crappy mail-order places, you're liable to be ripped off, as it's probably a third generation copy or something :) ... maybe the vids will be available for sale one day ... maybe ... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Wed Jan 7 15:50:14 1998 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 7 Jan 98 15:50:14 Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio Message-ID: <9801071510.AA3477@notesgw.compuserve.com> >> So: Mark Eitzel, Ian Broudie, some bloke from Travis, and >>ermm...Ben Folds. They're taking rock aristocracy by storm. >From: shelley wilkinson >Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio > >i think it's great that heaps of people are discovering B&S. but really >- - does it matter who they are? does it make it any better (or worse) >that 'famous' or well known people like them.. does that make the band >better? > >shelley No, of course not - I was just being daft. And to be honest, none of those people really mean much to me anyway. I don't really take much heed of pop stars' opinions about other bands. God forbid that Morrissey should ever namecheck them. Mind you, if someone totally unexpected, like.... Wu-Tang Clan or Dionne Warwick started singing their praises then it would be quite exciting. Nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 15:34:44 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:34:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio In-Reply-To: <9801071510.AA3477@notesgw.compuserve.com> Message-ID: On 7 Jan 1998, Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB wrote: > God forbid that Morrissey should ever namecheck them. > Nick > > nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com > You're right there: didn't Morrissey use to make a habit of namechecking all sorts of bands, all of which then vanished without trace, like bradford (best-known moment: skin storm)? the only band who ever had any real popularity post-mozzplug were the primitives (ah!) who still went down the dumper after a year or two. still, those were the days when people took any notice of the man: nobody bothers now, and i can't really say i blame them - he hasn't done anything worthwhile for ages now. but do you remember any of the other bands he memtioned? (no b&s mention: sorry!) alastair > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Wed Jan 7 14:27:29 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:27:29 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Adventures in Stereo (sorry, no B&S subject ) Message-ID: <199801071231.MAA25464@gemeos.electus.com.br> Adventures in Stereo is so lovely. I've got the "blue" album. The "Blue one" is one of the best 97 album for me. What's the "yellow" album ? Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Wed Jan 7 15:45:47 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (timminsc) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 15:45:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Irish review Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980107154547.007aa840@mail.tcd.ie> I am obviously bored but yet I thought that if anyone was interested I would send a review of the gigs I found in Dublin's event guide.... " It's been a while since I travelled further than a spin on the DART to catch a band, but then again, it's been a while since I've heard a band this damn good. Even grimey Manchester can't put a downer on the sort of romance B&S ooze at every pore. And only B&S could come up with the idea of playing three shows in two days inside the ornate splendour of the city'e town hall. We're literally gobsmacked walking around this remarkable building, windows embellished with intricately stained glass, archaic stair-cases winding off in every direction, every door hiding a mystery and centuries of history. And inside one of the larger rooms seven or eight musicians swop instruments spread out over two stages, one opposite the other and a stacked PA in the middle. This is Belle and Sebastian's world for two days. The first show is tentative, impeded by the troublesome sound which is yet to marry itself to the Town Hall's vexatious acoustics. But once Stuart Murdoch's fragile voice comes upon us, a hushed reverance inhabits the air as brushed drums and deft traces of moog and hammond begin to fill the room. B&S have over three albums worth of great songs so despite their faltering poise it's still an enjoyable evening, and we're enchanted by the unique surrounds. The following day's matinee performance is approaching sublime. The band are hungover (keyboardist Chris hides a bucket beneath his pile of instruments in case of emergencies) and play with particular delicacy. Stuart performs a tender 'Fox In The Snow' on piano and we swoon appropriately. The final show is aptly rousing . B&S have mastered the discortant echo of the venue and every instrument (cello, ethnic percussion, drums, organs, piano, trumpet, violin, guitars etc) now cruises in harmony. The audience let loose a little too, and indulge in a spot of hootin' and hollerin'. Tonight's set is for the most aprt a variation on the previous two. The much favoured 'The State I Am In' is aired in its more languid 'Tigermilk' arrangement, (trainspotter info) as opposed to the snappier 'Dog On Wheels'version (alas,nothing from Dog On Wheels makes it this weekend - next time please) but it satiates our need to hear one of the finest pop songs released this year. Several more from 'Tigermilk' are played and some new material due for release in the next five or six months. The quality control leaves us dizzy and by the end of the night we've discarded all those Nick Drake and Love comparisons and fallen well and truly in love with our unlikely new pop saviours from Glasgow." Phew I don't thimk I've typed so much for ages. Good practice for all those essays coming up. After all the criticisms I thought it would be nice to read a review from someone not on the list..or is he??? The fans are always the first to criticise. It's just like football. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 16:01:33 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetry place2) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:01:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Provincial boutique Sundays Message-ID: <199801071558.PAA22436@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> A number of points: 1) Frankly Mr Shankly - I always thought that the whole song was a reference to every right thinking person's favourite film, Billy Liar, in particular the scene where Billy tells his boss, Mr Shadrack, that he's packing his job in to move to London ("a man could lose himself in London!"). Unfortunately, Frankly Mr Shadrack didn't rhyme. While I'm on the subject, there's a fantastic essay on Billy Liar as the founding myth of Brit pop culture in Jon Savage's book Time Travel. And Stephen Duffy's "Julie Christie" is the greatest song ever written, and would sound just dandy in a B&S 'stylee'. 2) Consistency - May I just say that a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds? 3) Laurel's contraceptives – It's quite clear that she doesn't need to use any, as HoneyPaul is having all her babies. 4) Let's have a party! 5) Duke, you are not alone in feeling old and weird. Prompted by your remarks on the Woodentops, I dug out my copy of Giant, and yes, it sounds fantastic! Stephen xxxxxx ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 16:09:23 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 16:09:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio Message-ID: <01bd1b86$9e6293b0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >still, those were the days when people took any notice of the man: nobody >bothers now, and i can't really say i blame them - he hasn't done anything >worthwhile for ages now. but do you remember any of the other bands he >memtioned? > Woodentops, James, Easterhouse, Suede... Think that's all I can remember Suede did OK I suppose, but then, it's easy to see why, there's no great *curse* involved, it''s just that all the other bands were crap. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bramly at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 17:14:10 1998 From: bramly at xxx.uk (Bramleys) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:14:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Losing All Your CDs(No B&S content) Message-ID: <01bd1b8f$abada880$LocalHost@bramly> Andy B wrote: >Recently my mom threatened to sell all of my CDs unless I cleaned them up! >The CDs were cluttering up the family which contains our big >stereo system with big speakers. After the threat, I quickly proceeded to >clean them up in fear of losing my favorite CDs especially IFYS. > >So I was wondering how everyone else would feel if someone threw away or >sold all your CDs? > >Because I was utterly frightened!!! > > Andy B-) > And all I have to say is: The prospect has never entered my mind because my family live in peace now they know the clutter is no ordinary clutter, but Belle and Sebastian clutter. Make your family listen to IYFS, and peace will be restored. Honestly. bethey > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 17:30:49 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:30:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Only tangential B&S references, but jolly good entertainment all the same... Message-ID: Hallo peeps! 'Tis Auntie Lizzie here once again to brighten up thy day. And you'd better appreciate it, or else... Reasons To Be Cheerful: a) I am now able to make copies of Tigreleche for those as wish it (may blessings rain down twice daily at the shrine of Sarah, Our Lady of the Stereo) and also of the Radio 1 session tracks in all their glory. If anyone wants a copy email me: I may even do you a nice laser-printed cover with a twee Manga picture on it, if you're nice to me. Repeat after me: "Steve Lamacq is a twat and a rotter of the first water and should have his tongue ripped out" (not really - I do not advocate the use of violence to resolve any situation, kiddies). Then his freakishly-deep voice would ring out nay more o'er the closing bars of many a fine session tune, nor would we be subjected to "Hear it on The Evening Session! On Radio One!! First!!! (**EXPLOSION**)" every 12½ minutes of the program. Silence Is Golden... b) I bought "The Esteemed Orange Juice" best of compilation t'other day for £3.99 in Our Price. £3.99! Pearls before swine or what? Not that I consider myself or any other frequenter of the fine chain-store to be of the porcine persuasion, it's just that this seems a fantashtic bargain, don't ye think? Ah, the gentle, soothing strains of Rip It Up and Consolation Prize... c) Rialto's new single Untouchable is out this week (Hurrah!) and a finer bunch of Roxy Music obsessives it would be harder to imagine. And the lead singer's got a better voice than Bryan Ferry. And a better fringe. Wow! Two drummers! Wonders will never cease, eh? d) I saw yon fillum Small Faces on the box the other night, and a very fine piece of cinema it is too. Teenage reminiscences of vicious youth-gang warfare in 60's Glasgee? Yes please! Ooh, Joseph Macfaydden...wash that boy and bring him to my tent. Now, sadly, all good things must come to an end. Tata. Lots of something, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ***************************************************** O life is a glorious cycle of song: A medley of extemporanea; And love is a thing that can never go wrong, And I am Marie of Roumania. Dorothy Parker **************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rthompson at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 17:20:53 1998 From: rthompson at xxx.com (Robert Thompson) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 12:20:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Provincial boutique Sundays References: <199801071558.PAA22436@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34B3B975.4AF24D31@plesman.com> Hello boyz and gurls... I'm a lurker, reading and listening to people discussing B&S. However, as a Smiths fan let me say that Frankly Mr. Shankly has generally been regarded as an attack on Geoff Travis (I think that's his name), who was the head of Rough Trade when the Smiths were on the label. A nasty fight had insued over contractual obligations and Morrissey took it out on him in a song, which, ironically enough, Travis fought to have the right to put out. Of course I'm sure there's some Billy Liar in there too.... Just a short note introducing myself. Age: 26. Country of origin: Canada; Occupation: Journalist. Regular listens: Nick Drake, Elvis Costello, David Bowie, Sloan, Teenage Fanclub, Lincoln. A pleasure to make your acquaintance, Robert Robert poetry place2 wrote: > A number of points: > > 1) Frankly Mr Shankly - I always thought that the whole song was > a > reference to every right thinking person's favourite film, Billy Liar, > in > particular the scene where Billy tells his boss, Mr Shadrack, that > he's > packing his job in to move to London ("a man could lose himself in > London!"). Unfortunately, Frankly Mr Shadrack didn't rhyme. While I'm > on > the subject, there's a fantastic essay on Billy Liar as the founding > myth > of Brit pop culture in Jon Savage's book Time Travel. And Stephen > Duffy's > "Julie Christie" is the greatest song ever written, and would sound > just > dandy in a B&S 'stylee'. > > 2) Consistency - May I just say that a foolish consistency is the > hobgoblin > of little minds? > > 3) Laurel's contraceptives – It's quite clear that she doesn't > need to use > any, as HoneyPaul is having all her babies. > > 4) Let's have a party! > > 5) Duke, you are not alone in feeling old and weird. Prompted by > your > remarks on the Woodentops, I dug out my copy of Giant, and yes, it > sounds > fantastic! > > Stephen > xxxxxx > ------ > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------ > The Poetry Society Website > http://www.poetrysoc.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From itstrue at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 16:48:39 1998 From: itstrue at xxx.com ( Reid) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 09:48:39 -0700 Subject: Sinister: B&S Conversion Message-ID: << She hates their music, and doesn't understand it can hold any sort of appeal for anyone. "Who likes this crap?" she asks?>> Who doesn't?! Seriously, out of all the people that I've forced to listen to Belle and Sebastian (and I've been pretty aggressive), I haven't met one who's thought its anything less than really good, and more than a few that understand how I feel, and have lost their minds for B&S. On the same topic, I just wanted to point out to anyone who's going to try to make a B&S tape for the purposes of converting that the contents of the three EP's (minus "...Elvis" and "On the Radio") fit PERFECTLY on one side of a 90 minute tape. And if you tape IYFS on the other side, you can stick "On the Radio" as a bonus track. And if you're REALLY feeling industrious, you can re-organize the songs from the three EP's to make another album. I did this for a friend of mine, and the running order was great, if I say so myself. I can't remember it exactly, but it began with "Lazy Line Painter Jane" then "Le Pastie" and ended with "Century of Fakers" then "You Made Me..." I think I'm going to do that for my own self. Oh, and to anyone in the UK who's wondering why Americans keep calling IYFS the album of '97, it's 'cause it wasn't released here until last year. As a matter of fact, the copyright year as it's printed on the CD is '97, which I find a bit curious... ~Reid --- "You wrote a book about yourself, the people left it on the shelf"" J. Reid Dossinger (Chapel Hill, NC) itstrue at earthlink.net or (alternate) itstrue at mailcity.com AUTOFAC Reviews: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/8002/ Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 17:56:01 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:56:01 -0800 Subject: Sinister: repsonses - little/no Belle content Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF03079792@amerwksnt01.xil.com> <<("a man could lose himself in London!"). >> ooooh I love saint etienne, too, along with B&S one of the few bands i have yet to see live that I really really want to... < sold all your CDs? Because I was utterly frightened!!!>> That WOULD be devastating!!!! Good luck But on a serious note... I know someone whose entire house burned down over the holidays... and well, Cds weren't high on the list of priorities. <> All a matter of opinion... mine being that OK Computer probably WAS the best thing released last year.... < Message-ID: <34B3C17C.A2E3F872@plesman.com> Keith Watson wrote: > Woodentops, James, Easterhouse, Suede... Think that's all I can > remember > Now there's Travis, who are admittedly a little dull, Elka, who are OK.However I've got to disagree on James. The early albums, esp. Stutter, where very good. It's just recently they've gotten kind of lame. The Primitives, likewise, had some cracking pop songs. Robert > Suede did OK I suppose, but then, it's easy to see why, there's no > great > *curse* involved, it''s just that all the other bands were crap. > > Cheers, > Keith. > > ---------- > ------------------------------------------------------------ > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please > see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail > owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Wed Jan 7 17:57:40 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 18:57:40 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: B&S POSTERS Message-ID: <199801071757.SAA25236@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Adrian Evans wrote ... >> Andrew...I don't know about you but I love my mother dearly and I am an extremely passive fellow. However, should my mother ever sell/throw or give away any of my B&S cd's, I would surely be forced to break both of her legs. << "Ouch!" ... before anyone is taking such an instigation too light-heartedly, you should remember that breaking the legs of a deaf family member may be considered as an aggrevated assault ... "Let's be natural" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From wyninger at xxx.org Wed Jan 7 18:04:13 1998 From: wyninger at xxx.org (Mary Wyninger) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:04:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: A good deed In-Reply-To: <01bd1b50$6aeea400$LocalHost@dell> Message-ID: > Has anyone else converted loads of people? I'm trying to - I've put them on about a dozen mix tapes for friends, I've *pleaded* with people to buy "Sinister," I've raved about 'em on other lists, I've supplied "Tigermilk" to those without...I feel like a campaign manager or something. :) Mary -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Mary A. Wyninger wyninger at speakeasy.org http://www.speakeasy.org/~wyninger/ -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Family.Lee at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 06:45:37 1998 From: Family.Lee at xxx.com (Edward Lee) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 22:45:37 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake Message-ID: It's just occured to me that "Lazy Line Painter Jane" might be a reference to Hazy Jane, a character mentioned in several Nick Drake songs. It's quite likely considering how often Stu Murdoch's vocals are compared with NIck's. Anyway this kind of thing is important to me as in my view Nick Drake was one of the most beautiful people ever to create music. Anyone else agree? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 18:39:45 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 13:39:45 EST Subject: Sinister: B&S POSTERS Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:31:34 -0500 (EST), Genevieve wrote: >I didn't know there WERE Belle and Sebastian posters! What does it look like >and where'd you get it? I won the Dog On Wheels and 3..6..9... Posters in an NME comp, (the only thing I've ever won, incidentally), and when I got them through the post, there was a note attatched from Stone Immaculate (Press and Promotion) who obviously do the band's press and, er, promotion. No e-mail adress, but a phone number; 0171 131 6359. Oh dear, I shouldn't really have posted that. I won't win any more competitions, I feel. By the way, while I'm here can anyone help me? While walking around in the biggest flares that the small town beatings will allow for, the thought hit me; Which movie is Dylan in? and which Dylan? If it's the hippy rabbit from the magic roundabout, I'd definitely be interested in seeing it... Sorry if that's been asked before, but it's pissing me off now, and I need to know. Ta, Seb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Wed Jan 7 18:44:19 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 12:44:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: the poster saga resolved In-Reply-To: <01BD1B6D.01B58360@pc7628> Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:03:58 EST >Matthew wrote: > >"I am not sure exactly where the poster came from originally. Listee Amanda >gave it to me in return for chocolate from England." > >I don't want to be funny, but I can't help feeling someone got a bit of a >bum deal here. Amanda, you are young.....you will learn by your mistakes. Bum deal? No. Yum deal, yes. Allow me to explain. A few months back, I posted an inquiry to the list, asking if anyone had any B&S memorabilia that would make for suitable wall decor. In true list fashion, an immediate offer of a leftover Enclave poster (from someone whose name escapes me at the moment; she worked for EMI) came through and in a matter of days I found myself the owner of THREE count 'em THREE _IYFS_/Scotland gig posters that they'd had lying around since the Enclave went bust. Big red ones. Ask and ye shall receive, I suppose. Anyhoo, I kept one for myself, gave another one to my good pal and fellow B&S fanatic Ned (who first introduced me to their music, so I felt like it was the least I could do in return), and saved the third one to give to lucky Matthew to commemorate our in-person meeting over the holiday. You know, in the spirit of giving and all. I wasn't really looking to get anything specific in return, but I had mentioned a fondess for Cadbury's chocolate at some point in our email correspondence and so he gifted me with some when we met up in December. It was lovely, really. And on the pet/poster tangent: when I was at home, with the aforementioned poster rolled up and ready to give to Matthew, my cats also took a liking to it, pouncing and batting it around with (thankfully) declawed paws.Perhaps there might be some kind of feline/B&S connection, since many of us listees have cats...hmmm... So, that's that. And now it's back to the old Spanish books for me... ta, Amanda (whose offer to tape Tigermilk still stands for stateside listees) ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "Play me a song to set me free." --Belle and Sebastian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 17:45:37 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 17:45:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio References: <01bd1b86$9e6293b0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34B3BF41.CF74AD16@mail.zynet.co.uk> > Woodentops, James, Easterhouse, Suede... Think > that's all I can remember > > Suede did OK I suppose, but then, it's easy to > see why, there's no great > *curse* involved, it''s just that all the other > bands were crap. woodentops, as already noted, made some truly great records... ditto James in the early period. 'what's the world' was truly astonishing. easterhouse did one ace single 'coming up for air' and then got a bit sludgy. suede were always iredeemably bad. opinions opinions... duke. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Wed Jan 7 19:02:58 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:02:58 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Re: Mozzer & ................. Message-ID: <199801071707.RAA28651@gemeos.electus.com.br> > > God forbid that Morrissey should ever namecheck them. > You're right there: didn't Morrissey use to make a habit of namechecking > all sorts of bands, all of which then vanished without trace, like > bradford (best-known moment: skin storm)? the only band who ever had any > real popularity post-mozzplug were the primitives (ah!) who still went > down the dumper after a year or two. I remember the time when Mozzer used to wear Primitives T-shirts. Bradford , the old Gene ? :o) > still, those were the days when people took any notice of the man: nobody > bothers now, and i can't really say i blame them - he hasn't done anything > worthwhile for ages now. but do you remember any of the other bands he > memtioned? > alastair Gallon Drunk ? Shop Assistants ? Who's Morrissey ? Which *new* bands B&S like ? Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 20:29:07 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:29:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Mozzer & ................. In-Reply-To: <199801071707.RAA28651@gemeos.electus.com.br> Message-ID: On Wed, 7 Jan 1998, Ivo A P Escossia wrote: > > > > God forbid that Morrissey should ever namecheck them. > > You're right there: didn't Morrissey use to make a habit of > namechecking > > all sorts of bands, all of which then vanished without trace, like > > bradford (best-known moment: skin storm)? the only band who ever > had any > > real popularity post-mozzplug were the primitives (ah!) who still > went > > down the dumper after a year or two. > > > > I remember the time when Mozzer used to wear Primitives T-shirts. > Bradford , the old Gene ? :o) > > > > > still, those were the days when people took any notice of the man: > nobody > > bothers now, and i can't really say i blame them - he hasn't done > anything > > worthwhile for ages now. but do you remember any of the other bands > he > > memtioned? Yup..... LUDUS and New York Dolls. D A N I E L O O > > alastair > > > Gallon Drunk ? > Shop Assistants ? > > Who's Morrissey ? > Which *new* bands B&S like ? > Ivo A P Escossia > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 20:28:13 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:28:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: um, a load of crap you might as well read. Message-ID: aaaah the folly of youth.... says the sixth former...... but i'm telling you! this is terrible! i have taped the best f B&S for my friend. she thinks they're "lovely, really sweet" - but whenever i mention them (and its not that often, i save that for here!) she groans! WHY! (ok this has now turned into a pointless rant) She said the same to nirvana. She said the same for the Manics. In fact, anyone who aint NIN or Marylin manson is fucked. dearies what am i to do???? i think i shall look for an adventures in stereo record. or CD what say you???? and if anyone threw away my CD's collection i would cry and cry and cry and harm myself a lot and never speak to the people who did it ever again and be ruined, a nervuos wreck. And Lizzie Daplyn, i used to have that Doroty Parker quote in my sig ages ago! in fact i'm bored of Lisa Simpson, so i shall stick another of the good old DP in the sig file for a while. hey, ryhmes....nice :) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah -- thinking of fun fun fun! Razors pain you Rivers are damp Acids stain you and drugs cause cramp Guns aren't lawful Nooses give Gas smells awful you might as well live ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elzachar at xxx.no Wed Jan 7 22:22:55 1998 From: elzachar at xxx.no (Elisabeth Zachariassen) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 23:22:55 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: me first Message-ID: <199801072222.XAA07112@online.no> >Hi! >I'm another newcomer to this list and i believe, >the first one from Norway! I've been a serious >fan of "scottish pop" for some years now, >( Early BMX Bandits, TFC, Captain America, >Eugenius, Mogwai, Urusei Yatsura, Arab Strap, >Delgados....) and my fascination for the "highlanders" >became even bigger when i came across IYFS >a couple of months ago. Since then i've bought practically >everything B&S. (got a copy of "Tigermilk" on Minidisc...) > >Now on to my main message: >Theres been a lot of roumours (here in Oslo) >lately about some B&S gigs in Norway and Sweden. > >The roumour says that the gig in Oslo was supposed >to take place in a big church in the center of town >called "Oslo Domkirke" in the beginning of february, >but has been delayed until late March due to som >venue-problems in Sweden. > >The gigs in Sweden are supposed to take place in >Stockholm, Lund and Malmoe. > >Does anybody else know anything about this? > >Cheers >Stein Vegusdal >Mail: vegus at a.sol.no >- ----------------------------------------------------------- >"Have you seen that girl? >With the blood-shot eyes >With the razor-sharp teeth >And the hungry smile..." >Club Molluska - Guided By Voices >- ----------------------------------------------------------- Hi Stein, or should I say hei! My claim to fame is that I was the first Norwegian on the list!!!!! As far as I know there are absolutely no plans of B&S coming to Norway. I work for a record company that might be getting distribution for B&S in Scandinavia. Then more people would be able to hear their wonderful tunes, which would be great. At the moment people are lining up outside my flat wanting to hear the cds..... Elisabeth A gig in oslo domkirke would be a great idea though! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 22:30:39 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 22:30:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fanclub site... new things Message-ID: <34B4020F.F45C0FA5@totalweb.co.uk> again i've whiled away my time by creating something for all of you, apart from generally updating and refeshing the info on the site i've now created something that i think you'll all like. a voting booth. you can give every released track a mark out of ten, your votes are compiled with everyone else's and then we can permanently view how people rate the songs, and hopefully which ones mean the most. you need to register to be able to vote as your password will be sent to you by e-mail, why a password, well this way everyone only votes once and you can change your votes should you need to. hope you enjoy it david kitchen @ the fanclub -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Wed Jan 7 22:59:34 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 17:59:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Losing All Your CDs(No B&S content) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Andrew Hung Nguyen wrote: > So I was wondering how everyone else would feel if someone threw away or > sold all your CDs? well my da keeps threatening to..i have about 600 cds, 900 tapes(500 of it bootleg stuff) and about 60 lps and such..he says that its way too much to be able to actually listen to and maybe it is..i'm one of those people that if i see a cd that has one song i like for 99 cents i will buy it..my sister says that i am anal because i have everything in alpabetical order and my bootleg tapes numbered but it really is the only way to keep track of stuff..i have a cd holder that holds 24 cds on my wall for the music i listen to most and i usually change the cds every week or so, but 'iyfs' has been in there ever since i bought it. take care roberta ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Jan 7 23:17:21 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 23:17:21 GMT Subject: Sinister: Record shop stunna in 'gagging for it' shock confession Message-ID: <34b70cd1.4059585@email.mcmail.com> Hello everybody, It has come to my attention that Lynn from Vinyl Exchange in Manchester wants to "have sex" with Stuart Murdoch. We think it's because her boyfriend can't 'cut the mustard', if you get my meaning. Love, The Stirrer ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Wed Jan 7 23:49:32 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 98 23:49:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: Record shop stunna in 'gagging for it' shock confession References: <34b70cd1.4059585@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: <980107234932.n0007112.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 07 Jan 98, Tag wrote... >Hello everybody, > >It has come to my attention that Lynn from Vinyl Exchange in >Manchester wants to "have sex" with Stuart Murdoch. We think it's >because her boyfriend can't 'cut the mustard', if you get my meaning. > >From what I've heard, Stuart can't either, but I bet he'd stroke your hair and read you poetry at midnight ;-) Susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nioannidis at xxx.gr Thu Jan 8 00:54:53 1998 From: nioannidis at xxx.gr (Nicholas Ioannidis) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 02:54:53 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Seb in Spanish Message-ID: <34B423DD.95B74F3@ath.forthnet.gr> For all those Spanish speakers out there, a nice article (a bit old though) in...Spanish at http://www.putput.es/discordia/abarna/ab9709/belle.html Love, Nicholas (athens-greece) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Jan 7 18:29:54 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 18:29:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: small faces Message-ID: <80256586.00061A62.00@bull.co.uk> no, not the band, dumbass elizabeth: >d) I saw yon fillum Small Faces on the box the other night, >and a very fine piece of cinema it is too. Teenage >reminiscences of vicious >youth-gang warfare in 60's Glasgee? Yes please! Ooh, Joseph >Macfaydden...wash that boy and bring him to my tent. wasn't he prentice in 'the crow road' too? and in that thing in the 'love bites' season on bbc2 recently (is three things a season?). i'm sure in that one he went into the phone box near the beginning and said 'hey, it's me, andy dean...'. he got beaten to a pulp later though. and all because he fell head over heels for some foxy chick and kept buying her washing machines. won't find me doing that. no sireee... oh, and in small faces they used the phrase 'young team' to describe one of the tong gangs. and the new mogwai lp is called 'mogwai young team'. cool. andy it's better if you throw them broken... 8) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Thu Jan 8 05:10:09 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:10:09 EST Subject: Sinister: B&S POSTERS Message-ID: In a message dated 98-01-07 13:58:26 EST, you write: > >I didn't know there WERE Belle and Sebastian posters! What does it look like > >and where'd you get it? I have a large B&S poster given to me by the wonderful owner of the CD store we shop at (thank you Chris!). It's got the cover of IYFS on one side, and on the other what seems to be an advertisement for two B&S concerts, one in Glasgow and one in Edinburgh on March 8 and 9 (1997 I assume). I guess it's a promo poster for the CD -- but so neat to have the other on the back! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Thu Jan 8 06:47:09 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 01:47:09 EST Subject: Sinister: Losing All Your CDs(No B&S content) Message-ID: <13d87d9b.34b47677@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-07 18:26:02 EST, you write: > > So I was wondering how everyone else would feel if someone threw away or > > sold all your CDs? I threaten to do it everyday here. Even threaten to throw out my own. They're all over the place: tables, chairs, couches, computer ... even in the bathroom, go figure that. You can't swing a dead cat in this house without hitting a CD. But, no one puts them away because they know I won't throw them out. How can you throw out music? Or books, which is another story... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Thu Jan 8 08:29:29 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 08:29:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian...On The Video Message-ID: <01bd1c0f$89bb90e0$LocalHost@dell> How about a B & S funky gig thing, where instead of a support band, we have the videos for the songs. After that, the band come on and do their bit and we all cry at the beauty of it all. Great idea, non? I saw Lazy Line Painter Jane on the ITV Chart Show in the summer - probably about June. It is a fab video. tara jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 09:31:51 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 09:31:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: voting thing on the fanclub site Message-ID: <34B49D07.C8F5A381@totalweb.co.uk> I've just realised that while only a few of you have voted you can actually sabotage the stats! i.e. if you don't believe State I Am In is better than Judy And The Dream Of Horses, just give State a mark of '0' and Judy a mark of '10'. Then when you view the stats State has crashed from 2nd to 9th and Judy has risen from 6th to 2nd! But this will only work whilst there are few votes, so if you want a laugh vote soon, as once over 20 people have voted your vote won't seriously effect the stats like that. david kitchen @ the fanclub -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 09:40:57 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:40:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re: small faces Message-ID: <01bd1c19$855c49e0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >elizabeth: >>d) I saw yon fillum Small Faces on the box the other night, >>and a very fine piece of cinema it is too. Teenage >>reminiscences of vicious >>youth-gang warfare in 60's Glasgee? Yes please! Ooh, Joseph >>Macfaydden...wash that boy and bring him to my tent. Small Faces is a bloody excellent film, by far and away the best film of the year before last, well cool and is recommended to anyone who hasn't yet seen it. >oh, and in small faces they used the phrase 'young team' to >describe one of the tong gangs. and the new mogwai lp is >called 'mogwai young team'. cool. It's just a general - if slightly outdated term, to describe the gangs (the Police, one bloke in particular essentially smashed the gang problem in Glasgow in the late sixties), it's quite cute that Mogwai have chosen that name I think. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Thu Jan 8 10:13:21 1998 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:13:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re: small faces Message-ID: <01BD1C1E.0D0E9CE0@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> >elizabeth: >>d) I saw yon fillum Small Faces on the box the other night, >>and a very fine piece of cinema it is too. Teenage >>reminiscences of vicious >>youth-gang warfare in 60's Glasgee? Yes please! Ooh, Joseph >>Macfaydden...wash that boy and bring him to my tent. >Small Faces is a bloody excellent film, by far and away the best film of the year before last, well cool and is recommended to anyone who hasn't yet seen it. I absolutely agree. Aren't that 'Mad Malky' character and Bobby (the brother who got stabbed) both now in Arab Strap? (Only joking here, folks, but any number of the gang members could pass for being in 'The Strap' (as almost certainly no-one calls them), Mogwai, or even - dare I say it - Belle & Sebastian). Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Jan 7 17:08:44 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 18:08:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Losing References: Message-ID: <34B3B69B.CCD850E7@colon.net.> Andrew Hung Nguyen wrote: > Recently my mom threatened to sell all of my CDs unless I > cleaned them up! > What a cow! My mum regularly complains that my records (the old fashioned vinyl ones) are cluttering up the cupboard. I don't know what she's moaning about, there's plenty of space in the cupboard.Once she was doing something or other with them and found "Groovy Hate Fuck" by Pussy Galore and said "Oooh, swearing!" and put it back again sharpish. My dad used to tell me that I didn't want to go buying so many records because I'd get sick of them and never play them again. And do you know? He was right. He is also of the opinion that one should "wait for the greatest hits to come out." > So I was wondering how everyone else would feel if someone > threw away or > sold all your CDs? I would ask them to explain their bizarre behaviour and rummage about in their pockets looking for the cash (if they had sold them, if they had thrown them away I would ask where. And become violent). > > > Because I was utterly frightened!!! > I'm not surprised. Here's hoping this turns into a long thread of mum and dad anecdotes. Get them involved in the professional / shambolic racket debate. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Jan 7 19:41:35 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 20:41:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a wooden tree References: <4B2AD0F0.1272@smlawpub.co.uk> Message-ID: <34B3DA6E.B0DE46C7@colon.net.> Charlotte Hall wrote: > One note of dissent: I think Orange Juice's version > of In A Nutshell > could never be bettered. Or is this too dogmatic? > Perhaps if it were actually recorded in a nutshell, preferably by some squirrels with their cheeks stuffed full of the original contents of said nutshell. > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. > Aren't we? Is it just me, or are some of the bunnies' batteries running a bit low? I know mine are. Still, I've been given a big bunny boost by the belated news that I finally managed to put Choo Choo Mitchell in his proper place by giving him a jolly good thrashing in the exciting Ivor the Engine competition. I don't know how many other people I inadvertently humbled with my encyclope (whoops, spelling problem - irony in action) dic knowledge of children's television, but at any rate it's the taking part that's important. I'm just off for a victory lap around my computer terminal. Trousers, once again I doff my trousers to you and your fiendish competitions. Obviously this one was much more difficult than the first. I've spent half the afternoon reading the backlog of messages and I've forgotten all the things I was going to answer, add to, distort, etc. Whoever was asking about videos - Andy Dean's ever increasing Belle and Sebastian archive contains some stills from the videos, including one of Stuart Murdoch dressed up as Quentin Crisp, and some people painting lines lazily. I think he was intending to put the full things up in Quick Time video form or something. Andy, am I right or am I wrong? In the meantime, anyone who hasn't seen it can get to Andy's site via Paul's site (below) or David and Katrina's fan club site, where Mister Dean is referred to as "a lovely person". I apologise if this subject has been covered in my absence. The videos, not the loveliness. Do you like my new flat? I am now the proud owner of two new flatmates, so I think it is my duty to try and convert them to Belle and Sebastian. I will also try and get them to write messages to the list. From the looks of things we will soon have the entire population of Spain signed up. Once upon a time there were only two of us We have painted the flat very unprofessionally but I like it better like that because it is now a part of us and us a part of it. That doesn't mean to say we won't try and do it better next time, or that professional painters and decorators are all bastards, but.... And we set the step ladders up in a funny U-shape and swapped rollers every now and then. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gwood at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 10:45:25 1998 From: gwood at xxx.uk (Gerard Wood) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 10:45:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: voting thing on the fanclub site In-Reply-To: <34B49D07.C8F5A381@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: At 9:31 am +0000 8/1/98, David & Katrina wrote: >I've just realised that while only a few of you have voted you can >actually sabotage the stats! Stick the standard deviation on and sabotage signs would be much clearer.... Dr Gez of the maths department ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Jan 8 10:47:20 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:47:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S POSTERS References: Message-ID: <34B4AEB8.5946@virgin.net> Funkyseb wrote: > I won the Dog On Wheels and 3..6..9... Posters in an NME comp, (the only > thing I've ever won, incidentally), and when I got them through the post, > there was a note attatched from Stone Immaculate (Press and Promotion) who > obviously do the band's press and, er, promotion. No e-mail adress, but a > phone number; 0171 131 6359. I know that Jon has given away all of his posters, so it's probably not a good idea to phone him! For the next releases though, we may sell them through the fanclub, but only if you lot are prepared to pay extra postage costs ... so, vote time again, what would you be prepared to pay for a poster, and, if it was sent in a poster tube, how much would you pay. Oh, and if you were wondering, we don't have left here at Jeepster either ... sorry, but there may be a few "3..6..9 ..." one's left over back at the flat ... if you send an A4 stamped self addressed envelope to the fanclub (PO Box 14153, London, SW11 4XU), you may just be lucky ... i think there's about 15 odd, so maybe e-mail me or david (bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk) to reserve one first! Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Jan 8 10:47:23 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 10:47:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Extra tracks? References: <3.0.3.16.19980107153732.2297b056@mail.online.no> Message-ID: <34B4AEBB.5BE0@virgin.net> Jan Saghaug wrote: > > Does anyone know if there are any extra tracks on the Japanese edition of > "If you're feeling sinister". > > Jan Strictly speaking, there isn't a Japanese version of "...Sinister". For all the trainspotters, there are only three releases of "...Sinister" 1. The UK Jeepster version (released Nov 18th 1996) cat # JPRCDS001 2. The US & ROW The Enclave version (released Feb 1997 ???) cat # 56713-26 3. The European Delabel/Virgin France version (released ??? early 1997) cat # 7243 - 844601 - 2 sorry to be so boring ... cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From torbjorn at xxx.se Thu Jan 8 10:43:21 1998 From: torbjorn at xxx.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Torbj=F6rn_Thors=E9n?=) Date: 08 Jan 98 11:43:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian fans in stranger than usual places Message-ID: <980108.114321@nrb.se> As for the popularity of the fab seven, be on the lookout for what may come of the rather strange pairing of Belle & Sebastian and Swedish Straight Edge frontrunners Refused. After nonstop tours in the hardcore communities all over the globe and more albums than you can shake a stick at Refused might be in for a change of pace. It seems that Belle & Sebastian have taken over the top spot in the bands tourbus hall of fame. Beating out Bad Brains, Slayer and Earth Crisis. Dennis Lyxen - singer and all-out-fab hardcorekid resently got hold of a tape of Belle & Sebastian faves and pursued to order all the Belle & Sebastian releses he could get hold of in Norther Sweden. Just goes to show the depth and width of the Belle & Sebastian mayhem. take care / Toby Thorsen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Thu Jan 8 11:44:51 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 11:44:51 GMT Subject: Sinister: Record shop stunna in 'gagging for it' shock confession Message-ID: <980108114451.n0007136.tormentor@mail.clara.net> A date between Stuart Murdoch and some 'looker' out of vinyl exchange hey? Continuing in our series of Fantasy B&S Roleplays (Patent no 10383) I wonder how that would go? Lyn: hey Stuart, i wouldn't mind a bit of ;-) ;-) you know, if you've got the inclination Stuart M: Och, dunnae what you're on about you wee lassie Lyn: Well, you know, a bit of how's your father? SM : Aye, he's alright man, Lyn: No, thats not what I meant !, I mean, how do you fancy sowing your wild oats? SM: Aye! now I know where you're gannin' , I like a nice steamy bowl of porridge in the morning Lyn: I think you've got the wrong end of the stick, Stuart, basically what I'm saying is do you wanna quick one? SM: Och, its gonna have to be quick, I've gotta nip off for choir practice in a wee while *laaaah* Lyn: Ahh great, now we're getting somewhere? SM: A quick one what? Lyn: look, Stuart, do you fancy a shag or don't you? SM: *legs it out of door with frightened look on his face, dives on to bus clutching harmonica, only pausing to grab some fish and chips and pay the leccy bill, and ends up sitting next to some blind/deaf/dumb girl in a holey jumper.* Basically Lynn, I think you're better off fancying Chris 'Cassanova' Geddes. Susannah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 11:55:50 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:55:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B is a Belly Option In-Reply-To: <980108.114321@nrb.se> Message-ID: Dear Sinisters Hiya! I was wondering does anyone on the list has any CHORDs for B/S Songs? .... mind sharing them with me? Does anyone knows about the BIRTH of their latest ALBUM and when will we expect? Thanks and Cheers D A N I E L O O ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Thu Jan 8 12:07:45 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:07:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B is a Belly Option In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I was wondering does anyone on the list has any CHORDs for B/S > Songs? .... mind sharing them with me? http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/chords.html NOT my own work :) > Does anyone knows about the BIRTH of their latest ALBUM and when will we > expect? Ooo stop it, they're kicking. Honey P.S. Suffering extreme mail deluge sorry to anyone who's being ignored by me. P.P.S. I've decided I want to get my name into LP credits somewhere after being very jealous about David and Katrina. How do I go about it? Who do I have to sleep with? I don't care if it's the sodding Teletubbies. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 12:49:34 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:49:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re: small faces Message-ID: <199801081224.MAA06105@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Mad Malky can't be in "the Strap" coz he's my mate Kevin McKidd (and the closest I'll ever get to showbiz stardom). He did however once sing in hard-rockin' Elgin pop combo Plan 9. Kev was also Tommy in Trainspotting and that year he also appeared in the Royal Shakespeare Company AND the Father Ted Christmas special. If that's not success I don't know what is! john xxx >---------- >From: Nigel Turner[SMTP:nigelt at xxx.net] >Sent: 08 Jan 1998 10:13 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: RE: Sinister: re: small faces > >>elizabeth: >>>d) I saw yon fillum Small Faces on the box the other night, >>>and a very fine piece of cinema it is too. Teenage >>>reminiscences of vicious >>>youth-gang warfare in 60's Glasgee? Yes please! Ooh, Joseph >>>Macfaydden...wash that boy and bring him to my tent. > >>Small Faces is a bloody excellent film, by far and away the best film of the >year before last, well cool and is recommended to anyone who hasn't yet seen >it. > > >I absolutely agree. Aren't that 'Mad Malky' character and Bobby (the brother >who got stabbed) both now in Arab Strap? (Only joking here, folks, but any >number of the gang members could pass for being in 'The Strap' (as almost >certainly no-one calls them), Mogwai, or even - dare I say it - Belle & >Sebastian). > >Nigel >xx > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 12:55:28 1998 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123 at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 12:55:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Losing All Your CDs(No B&S content) Message-ID: <00046161.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> Recently my mom threatened to sell all of my CDs unless I cleaned them up! The CDs were cluttering up the family which contains our big stereo system with big speakers. After the threat, I quickly proceeded to clean them up in fear of losing my favorite CDs especially IFYS. So I was wondering how everyone else would feel if someone threw away or sold all your CDs? Because I was utterly frightened!!! Andy B-) A friend of mine in Derby a number of years ago was playing his records a bit too loudly for his dad's liking one day. After a couple of unheeded threats to chuck the lot of them out the window, his dad suddenly appeared in his room and various Sarah 7"s, Weddoes LPs and Housemartins promos started flying out the window. Chris, the friend concerened, pleaded to no avail and had to run downstairs to try and retreive them as best he could! This, thankfully, has never happened to me, but I fell out with my girlfriend a while back and stayed at a mate's house for a few days. When I came back, she told me how she almost went to Avalanche Records to sell of some of my CDs - including all the B&S pieces. Now, I consider myself a pacifist - but this just may have sent me over the edge.... Brian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.168) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 00045217; Wed, 7 Jan 98 03:32:30 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id BAA12711 for sinister-outgoing; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 01:45:25 GMT Received: from taurus.oac.uci.edu ([128.200.80.23]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id BAA12707 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 1998 01:45:19 GMT Received: from localhost (andrewn at localhost) by taurus.oac.uci.edu (8.8.5/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA27265 for ; Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:45:22 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 17:45:21 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Hung Nguyen To: Belle and Sebastian Subject: Sinister: Losing All Your CDs(No B&S content) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Andrew Hung Nguyen From amh20 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 13:27:50 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:27:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Only tangential B&S references, but jolly good entertainment all the same... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > c) Rialto's new single Untouchable is out this week (Hurrah!) and a > finer bunch of Roxy Music obsessives it would be harder to imagine. And > the lead singer's got a better voice than Bryan Ferry. And a better > fringe. Wow! Two drummers! Wonders will never cease, eh? But it's not as good as 5:19, is it? still, it's not bad at all, and it's hard to believe that half of them were once in kinky machine (aargh). oh, and i would mind a tape (please please etc): what shoudl i do? alastair > > Liz. > (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) > > ***************************************************** > > O life is a glorious cycle of song: > A medley of extemporanea; > And love is a thing that can never go wrong, > And I am Marie of Roumania. > > Dorothy Parker > > **************************************************** > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 13:32:32 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:32:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S POSTERS In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Which movie is Dylan in? > and which Dylan? If it's the hippy rabbit from the magic roundabout, I'd > definitely be interested in seeing it... > Sorry if that's been asked before, but it's pissing me off now, and I need to > know. > Ta, > Seb it might just be don't look back, the (bob) dylan film: i'm sorry, the sarcasm was nasty and unnecessary: i apologise profusely> > alastair> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jsaghaug at xxx.no Thu Jan 8 15:19:04 1998 From: jsaghaug at xxx.no (Jan Saghaug) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 15:19:04 Subject: Sinister: Extra tracks? In-Reply-To: <34B4AEBB.5BE0@virgin.net> References: <3.0.3.16.19980107153732.2297b056@mail.online.no> Message-ID: <3.0.3.16.19980108151904.2c1f5850@mail.online.no> At 10:47 08.01.98 +0000, you wrote: >Strictly speaking, there isn't a Japanese version of "...Sinister". > >For all the trainspotters, there are only three releases of >"...Sinister" > >1. The UK Jeepster version (released Nov 18th 1996) cat # JPRCDS001 >2. The US & ROW The Enclave version (released Feb 1997 ???) cat # >56713-26 >3. The European Delabel/Virgin France version (released ??? early 1997) >cat # 7243 - 844601 - 2 >From Revolution's (UK) latest Japanese products catalogue: Belle and Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister - cat # VJCP-25330 jan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Thu Jan 8 13:16:10 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam (the extra 'A' is for archives)) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 08:16:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Parents vs. CDs(No B&S content) References: Message-ID: <34B4D17F.9F9@interaccess.com> baggy trousers wrote: > > well my dad keeps threatening to..i have about 600 cds, 900 tapes(500 of it > bootleg stuff) and about 60 lps and such.. Amature. >he says that its way too much to > be able to actually listen to and maybe it is.. Fuck that. Move out. Fill your small apt. with more music than you could possibly enjoy in two lifetimes. THAT'S life! > i'm one of those people > that if i see a cd that has one song i like for 99 cents i will buy it. Spend all your money on all the CDs you want. You don't need alcohol and cigarettes. There's nothing to enjoy a second time there anyway. You NEED music. Otherwise you wouldn't be here. > my > sister says that i am anal because i have everything in alpabetical order How the hell else are you gonna find it? Sometimes it's your family that is the only thing standing in your way between true happiness and the depths of hell. And the next time they tell you you can't go half-way 'cross the country to see a concert, go anyway. By the time you get home, they'll be happy that you're simply alive at all.;) Seriously ;) Aadam (taking the piss) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Thu Jan 8 13:51:37 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam (the extra 'A' is for archives)) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 08:51:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: All Your CDs(No B&S content) References: <13d87d9b.34b47677@aol.com> Message-ID: <34B4D9C9.466@interaccess.com> MWaggner wrote: > > In a message dated 98-01-07 18:26:02 EST, you write: > > > > So I was wondering how everyone else would feel if someone threw away or > > > sold all your CDs? > > I threaten to do it everyday here. Even threaten to throw out my own. They're > all over the place: tables, chairs, couches, computer ... even in the > bathroom, go figure that. You can't swing a dead cat in this house without > hitting a CD. Now THAT'S livin'! > > But, no one puts them away because they know I won't throw them out. How can > you throw out music? It's easy. You aim and shoot. two points. > Or books, which is another story... They certainly are! Firing all my guns at once AJ - Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Thu Jan 8 14:38:47 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:38:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: manchester set lists? Message-ID: <80256586.00541699.00@bull.co.uk> ok, was just doing a long overdue web site update and was cobbling a list of the tracks played in manchester. what i have follows but there are gaps (except for the sunday matinee which is taken from the set list nick, er, stole). does anyone have cononical lists for the two evening shows? or can someone smart and intelligent and, say, australian who has heard proper versions help fill in the gaps using the lyric snippets that i have? thanks. saturday evening: Put The Book Back On The Shelf I Don't Love Anyone Century Of Fakers Chickfactor Slow Graffiti ??? "I dreamt..." (words spoken by Stuart D) Photo Jenny ??? "...is this happening..." Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying Is It Wicked Not To Care? ??? "He had a stroke at the age of 24..." Dylan In The Movies Arab Strap Rollercoaster Ride sunday matinee: Seeing Other People Mayfly Beautiful Dirty Dream Fox In The Snow Tigermilk Expectations The Stars Of Track And Field Lazy Line Painter Jane Seymour Stein Simple Things Middle Distance Runner Something On My Mind* Arab Strap sunday evening: Modern Rock Song The State I Am In (Interlude: Matchstalk Men And Matchstalk Cats And Dogs) La Pastie De La Bourgoisie Seeing Other People Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner In A Nutshell* ??? "I know where the summer goes..." She's Losing It Judy And The Dream Of Horses Century Of Elvis Seymour Stein Dylan In The Movies ??? "If you want me i'll be there..." Sleep The Clock Around ok, will try and remember to transcribe those various articles from the recent music papers in the next couple of days but can't promise anything. oh, that nme 'interview', that'll be fun... cheers andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Thu Jan 8 16:41:35 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:41:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: freezing rain! Message-ID: <199801081641.LAA17935@Vector.inexpress.net> Hello hello dear Sinisters, >Date: Tue, 06 Jan 1998 20:55:36 GMT >From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) >Subject: Re: Sinister: yum yum posters > >On Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:31:34 -0500 (EST), Genevieve wrote: > >>Brett Anderson's face is catfood. > >That's true. Yes but he is Fancy Feast Supreme! Oh,all you B&S poster people are so lucky,I like the cover of IYFS...the person is interesting,I don't know what it is....but the cover is just interesting... Now,I knew something odd with the weather was going to happen since school has never EVER been cancelled here,snow just doesn't faze us...when *eep!* school cancelled on tuesday,due to freezing rain,but back to school wednesday..no power though...poor little cafteria,they tried,they lit candles! And we did a grand total of nothing...we played cards and the 'name game' (you stick a celebrity's name on a post it on someones back and they have to guess it) I was 'le client'... But now it's thursday and again school..cancelled! It's considered an emergency......except it's freezing rain..(not as glam as a hurricane,no movie will be made about us I don't think! ;) So,barely anybody has any power,and huge trees are falling over and everythings catching on fire and highways are closed,so I'm stuck here,I hope the power doens't go out (it's only ten below freezing though) so I get to go on the computer and talk with you lovely! Andddd....also I get to watch the tape of all those Euro Festivals..hey...Brett 'moos' at one of them! Has everyone hear heard the Pastels! I feel so left out..I've been looking for them EVERYWHERE....cannot find! Well,I'm gonna go snowshoeing...(hope a tree doesn't fall on me!) love love, Genevieve :) p.s My family is quite considerate of my cds and records (well I don't have thousands and thousands or anything) I used to just pile them up some where,but now they are arranged ( alphabetically!) in my bookcase.THe only thing my mom hates is the clutter on my walls..but that's getting better,I took off all the tiny things,left my Gunsmith Cats poster and have a wall of Suede. (i hear the laughs already!) NO...if they did,(which they'd never..) I don't know what I'd do... that happened to my father actually,he had Beatles records on the original label (Apple..I think...) and my brother took them (replaced them with the newer ones) and sold them....then later on he sold the ones he used to replace the others too...oh well,my father didn't care,he didn't listen to them anymore.. my family are musicians so I think they know not to mess with anothers music...! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Thu Jan 8 16:47:24 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 11:47:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #9 Message-ID: <199801081647.LAA17964@Vector.inexpress.net> >Lyn: look, Stuart, do you fancy a shag or don't you? > >SM: *legs it out of door with frightened look on his face, dives on to bus >clutching harmonica, only pausing to grab some fish and chips and pay the leccy >bill, and ends up sitting next to some blind/deaf/dumb girl in a holey jumper.* > >Basically Lynn, I think you're better off fancying Chris 'Cassanova' Geddes. > >Susannah No! Stuart David is the Cassanova,isn't he? ISN'T HE!?! meow meow meow Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Thu Jan 8 17:52:49 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 09:52:49 -0800 Subject: Sinister: freezing rain! Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0307AC8E@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Genevieve wrote: < person is interesting,I don't know what it is....but the cover is > just > interesting...>> hehe I know I'm bound to be ridiculed, but can anyone tell me if that's a man or woman on the cover??? (my eyesight progressively worsening with each additional minute spent behind this here computer...) While on the subject, who are the cover stars on the other Cds as well? Just curious. ta ta Tarabelle (only slightly mental) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris.hall5 at xxx.net Thu Jan 8 17:44:13 1998 From: chris.hall5 at xxx.net (boo ! HQ) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 17:44:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: So theres this coconut with If You're Feeling Sinister on it - crazy ! Message-ID: <34B5106D.7B7CFDD3@virgin.net> site updated today ! -- Boo to the Business World ! http://freespace.virgin.net/chris.hall5/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Jan 8 18:31:29 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 19:31:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dylan in the Movies Message-ID: <34B51B81.533B99@colon.net.> This has probably already been answered, but still.... Dylan plays a small supporting role in "Dougal and the Blue Cat", availiable on Pocket Money Videos. As the title suggests, Dougal is the undisputed star of the show. To be honest, it's not that good a film. I think the actors had trouble keeping up the intensity of their normal performances over a full length feature film. The other, lesser Dylan appears in "Don't Look Back", co-starring the mayoress of Nottingham. It is a rockumentary. See also the far superior "Streets of Fire" or something, in which Dylan plays the part of an ageing rock star who mumbles a lot and wears sunglasses. I only stuck about twenty minutes of it, but I suspect it's up there with Prince's sexy sexy sexy "Under the Cherry Moon" There is also Dylan's own deep and meaningful film "Renaldo and Clara", which is about six weeks long and incomprehensible. Apparently. I haven't had the pleasure. If I sound like a Dylanologist it's because I read a book. I confess to listening to Dylan at this very moment. I can hardly keep my eyes open. At any rate, the song in question is apparently about a boy who's walking through the park at night and he's scared to look back in case he gets grabbed from behind by Hugh and dragged off to the bogs for some communal fisting. I've got a Dog on Wheels poster. I'd sooner have a 3..6..9 one, so that I can alarm myself with an enormous reproduction of Stuart Murdoch's right nipple Morrissey also spoke highly of Echobelly, who went on to do Great Things. I think The Verve's album is all right, nothing more, nothing less. Some of the lyrics are noteworthy though, I think I know where he's coming from, maaaan. I too feel like a cat in a bag, specifically the one that the kids save at the beginning of "Whistle Down the Wind", and then "Jesus" lets it die, thus revealing himself to be "just a fella". At any rate, I think mediocrity is quite listenable at times. Having said all that, I haven't listened to it enough to give a really honest opinion. The same goes for Spiritualized, the other album of the year for most organs. My vote still goes to Portishead, but then I haven't heard much new stuff. I wish I could give it up once and for all, but I still get roped in by hype, if hype it is. No B&S content: You know the expression "in country" as in that film with Bruce Willis and Emily Lloyd? Is it an American expression? Is there a British equivalent? I need it for a translation for some people who send doctors off to the jungle to save our less fortunate brethren, and if I don't get it right innocent children will die. Well, some doctors will have difficulty understandiing their insurance policy at any rate. For some reason they're not covered for exposure to radioactivity. Sorry for this list abuse. On placement - perhaps that's better. I'm buggered if I know. Doctor Peter (in the Shabba Ranks sense) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 21:07:45 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:07:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: All sorts really... In-Reply-To: <199710280016.AAA25044@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: Blimey! I get back for the new term, and there are 312 e-mails waiting for me, including several surreal musings on Bill Shankly, and at least one full scale war... Well I'll post a separate e-mail about what I thought of the gigs in a bit (probably after Friends has finished :-)), but a few points I felt like answering from the last couple of weeks: 1. About all this amateurishniss at gigs. Personally I don't have a problem with it, but in case anyone does, here's what Stevie wrote in the press release for the 369 EP; > Right now we are making more records and > attempting to get better at playing gigs. I know we are a shambles, but we've > only played about ten shows and the gaps between songs etc. are caused through > ineptitude. We could never be deliberately contemptuous of an audience and we > are trying to get better - HONEST! So that's that sorted. 2. Someone mentioned that B&S could play the Royal Albert Hall. Well on the basis that someone said a while back that B&S were only playing Manchester Town Hall because of the architecture, I'd say it's a real possibility. They probably couldn't sell it out yet, but in a few months time who knows? It would suit them perfectly, I hope they do because it would be ****ing awesome... 3. Somebody mentioned in passing the sleeve notes, and the people being thanked on them. Well when I was looking at the IYFS sleeve agauin recently, I noticed Monica Queen's name on there; does she appear on the album anywhere? Or is she just a longstanding friend? 4. Donovan Lovedrake is not ginger. 5. 'Is It Wicked Not To Care' is the most beautiful song I've heard for ages, it suits Isobel's voice perfectly. 6. I've got far enought to be excused some irrelevancy, so does anyone know if there's a Rialto album imminent? Because their first two singles have been magnificent... Stuart G The tallest man in the world, apparently... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leslie.chinea at xxx.com Thu Jan 8 16:01:00 1998 From: leslie.chinea at xxx.com (leslie chinea) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 16:01:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the poster saga resolved Message-ID: <00007274.4556@emimusic.com> >Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:03:58 EST >Matthew wrote: > >"I am not sure exactly where the poster came from originally. Listee Amanda >gave it to me in return for chocolate from England." > >I don't want to be funny, but I can't help feeling someone got a bit of a >bum deal here. Amanda, you are young.....you will learn by your mistakes. >>Bum deal? No. Yum deal, yes. Allow me to explain. >>A few months back, I posted an inquiry to the list, asking if anyone had any B&S memorabilia that would make for suitable wall decor. In true list fashion, an immediate offer of a leftover Enclave poster (from someone whose name escapes me at the moment; she worked for EMI) came through and in a matter of days I found myself the owner of THREE count 'em THREE It was me! It was me! I sent B&S posters to Amanda and Steve and Nathan and The Duke & Duchess and many, many others...which is why the NY Branch's supply has been depleted :o( What I can do is call the other US Branches in search of more. If anyone would like posters just email me back. If I get any I'd gladly to send posters to those who truly appreciates B&S. Overseas listees will have to pay for postage, since it was costing me about $9 dollars each time I sent one to the UK. As I wrote to Nathan, I'm no Seymour Stein...just a music fan who's lucky enough to (barely) make a living doing what they love. Leslie. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Thu Jan 8 23:21:06 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 18:21:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: moo Message-ID: <199801082321.SAA20837@Vector.inexpress.net> >Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 17:45:37 +0000 >From: the duke of harringay >Subject: Re: Sinister: Belle And Sebastian on the radio > >> Woodentops, James, Easterhouse, Suede... Think >> that's all I can remember >> >> Suede did OK I suppose, but then, it's easy to >> see why, there's no great >> *curse* involved, it''s just that all the other >> bands were crap. >woodentops, as already noted, made some truly >great records... ditto James in the early period. >'what's the world' was truly astonishing. >easterhouse did one ace single 'coming up for air' >and then got a bit sludgy. suede were always >iredeemably bad. It must be against the B&S religion to dislike Suede....*sniff sniff* they're just little guys,they never meant to cause any trouble...okay,they're not as good ,but the first album is lovely......! it's all 'arab strap' 'arab strap' with you lot! Who are they...this elusive 'arab strap' I hear so much about...let me learn,oh teachers,let me learn! Yeaaaah! We're officaly a 'state of emergency'! They've got the troops in.So I'm waiting for soem men in camouflage to go running by (this is gonna be more exciting than the great cow stampede of 94!) kisses, Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 8 23:16:24 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 23:16:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Another Manchester gig weekend review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: OK, here we go... Saturday afternoon, I got to Piccadilly station, met Dan, and went off to his house to dump stuff / find out where the meetup was from his e-mail. So after a quick kebab on the way in, we got to the Sqare Albert at about 6. We worked out who the listees were pretty quickly by the way everyone turned round to look every time someone walked in the door... Anyway, I hadn't been too sure what to expect, spending the weekend (and quite a lot of money!) in Manchester with a load of people I'd never met before, but everyone there was really friendly, it was great. Hello to anyone I chatted to, I can't remember everyone's names I'm afraid! Then at 7.30 we all went over towards the Town Hall. Then we came back because they hadn't opened the doors yet. Then a bit later we went back and actually got in. Now thanks to a number of circumstances (relatives dying at inconvenient times etc) it was the first chance I'd had to see B&S live. From this list I knew to expect gaps between songs, forgotten lyrics etc; but I also expected the best gig of my life, a religious experience. My ludicrously high expectations gave way to excitement as the evening (and the alcohol?) wore on; after all, I had to think about something when Arab Strap were on ;-). And, well, it was all a bit disappointing. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it, it was a good gig; it just wasn't a GREAT gig. There were some exquisite moments; walking into the Town Hall for the first time, Isobel singing 'Is It Wicked Not To Care', when the music stopped in 'Dylan In The Movies', and didn't start again; all this was magic. I thought the stage setup worked really well actually (apart from the time it took people to get from one side to the other); but then I was fairly central, just in front of Isobel, and as has been pointed out by a couple of people, I am slightly taller than average, so I could see over everyone's heads to both halves of the stage; I'm not sure how Julia managed! But when it finished, i was left unsatisfied, I'd expected so much more of them. So then we trundled off to the aftershow, in a ridiculously small room the other side of town (1 person behind the bar, about 100 people waiting to be served...). A distinct lack of Jarvis-size celebrities this time, but some of the bands turned up (and I'm pretty sure I overheard one member of B&S describing it as their worst gig...); and at about 1 we went back to get some sleep, hoping tomorrow would be better. And it was. Having turned up about 45 minutes before the doors opened (ie when the tickets SAID that the doors would open...), I finally collected my ticket and went in. The promised festive film didn't materialise, and the Christmas food to be handed out turned out to be a couple of icecreams (just what we wanted after waiting outside in the cold and the rain for ages!), so I found a few listees to chat to whilst waiting (well OK, I butted in on your conversation, hope you didn't mind :-)). Then, with all the pomp and ceromony of a muffled fart, the band strolled on. For a moment I thought Stuart M wasn't coming on, until I realised he was behind me at the piano. And when they played, it was so different from the previous night. I couldn't say what had changed, whether it was the sound quality, the mood of the audience, or what; but the whole atmosphere had changed immeasurably for the better. The rock-out of Tigermilk (for a brief while becoming my favorite B&S song), the audience knowing the words to 'Expectations' better than Stuart, and most of all the moment in LLPJ when all the instruments crash in, perfectly in time with each other, instantaneously deafening compared to what had gone before but then just sublime (Stuart was even making signals at the man behind the mixing desk to turn it up even louder); all of these were perfect pop moments, sheer genius. This was more like what I had crossed the country to hear. And apparently Chris did actually use his vomit bucket halfway through the gig... All to quickly, it was over. Six of us tried to go to the Square Albert again for the meetup, only to discover that it was shut; so instead we opted for the huge Ferris Wheel outside the G-Mex instead (JJ; how is it possible to get so far through your life without once going on a Ferris Wheel?). Then after searching all over the place for about an hour, and losing one person in the process, we got some food, and then headed back to the pub. It was still shut, but at least there were some other people there now. So for want of anything better to do, we went back on the Ferris Wheel, and then (eventually) found another pub for a couple of drinks before the last show. And what a last show. Any high expectations were matched or exceeded. OK, so Future Pilot weren't to my taste (although Chris Geddes was to be seen at the back enjoying it). But after that, the evening got better and better. Good conversation beforehand, with David (as in D&K) sitting on one side, and Julia on the other; and then the band come on, and launch straight into 'Modern Rock Song' followed by 'The State I Am In'. After that, we didn't even mind the 10 minute break that followed whilst Isobel's cello got sorted out, a gap partly filled by 'Matchstick Men', remarks on the similarity between Pastie's riff and the theme tune to Emmerdale, and Stuart M's first 'interview' for a while... ("So, Stuart, are your band really as shambolic as people say?" "Yes!"). Despite what a few people have said, I thought Pastie sounded magnificent. Although admittedly sitting on the edge of the stage, right in front of the speaker stack definitely enhanced the sound quality (if not my eardrums!). They basically played a 'greatest hits' set, most of the favourites were there ('Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying', 'Judy And The Dream Of Horses', and best of all 'She's Losing It' quite unexpectedly). 'Century Of Elvis' mutated into Stuart and Isobel singing the chorus to 'Century Of Fakers' at the end; and they even managed to stop and restart the music in 'Dylan In The Movies' together this time. But the best had been saved 'til last; a simply wonderful rendition of 'Sleep The Clock Around', which sounded so much better than I remembered it (in fact it even sounds better on my tape of the sessions now as a result), right from the start to the climactic, all guns blazing, if-my-life-ends-now-I'll-die-happy rock-out at the end. When we were finally thrown out of the building, not wanting to leave until we absolutely had to, a few of us stumbled off to find a club that was open. When we finally did (after walking in completely the wrong direction for ten minutes or so...), it wasn't the liveliest place in the world (is there nowhere open in Manchester after 1am?!?). Oh yeah, and the ceiling was too low. But by then, I was too ecstatic to care. A few drinks and the inevitable late night curry house stop, later, it was time to say goodbye to it all, to new-found friends. And to survive a taxi-trip with a driver who had to get out an A-Z of Manchester to work out where I wanted to go. Well that ended up a bit longer than I'd intended, but never mind. I just thought that those of you who weren't there might be getting the impression from certain people that the gigs were't wonderful; they were. The whole weekend was magnificent; great company and great music - what more could you want? New Year's Eve was never going to be anything other than a damp squib compared to what had gone before; the sooner we have another meetup the better. So thanks to D&K for organising the meetup, so that we got to know each other; thanks to Dan for giving me somewhere to sleep for the two nights; and thanks to everyone I met, I love you all! Stuart "I'm not that tall, honest" Gardiner P.S. I've got about 20-30 photos from the gigs, both of the band and of a few of the listees. Much as I would like to get copies done for everyone, it would cost a fortune; so does anyone have the facilities to put them on the web somewhere? If so, can you mail me privately, and we can sort something out. Cheers! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Fri Jan 9 01:31:53 1998 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 20:31:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Looks like no B&S on sessions Message-ID: <01BD1C74.7566D720@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> Well, it looks like my hope of B&S being broadcast on national TV has been thrown out the window. I checked the Sessions Website and guess What??? No B&S for their schedule which goes up to June. Sorry everyone, Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Fri Jan 9 05:00:22 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:00:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Another Manchester gig weekend review In-Reply-To: Message-ID: sorry to hear about the low ceilings, make that one of the prerequisites for the next meetup, stuart-friendly ceilings! ;) oh yeah, and make sure someone checks the doorways too, or do you always have to duck? anyway, i think a ferris wheel would be a good venue for b&s, one member in each basket? it does present a bit of a technical problem, but then we already know how we all feel about that. though it would make all that instrument switching a bit harder...........where to put the fans though, now that's the real problem. maybe you could just fly them by on a plane, no need to actually *hear* the band, right? anyway, now i'm getting snarky, time to go, love and kisses xxxxxxxxx laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Fri Jan 9 05:05:32 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 00:05:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: bestowing of halos...... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: everyone, pam berry is a dear, and since she already offered here to make tapes for peeps, i needn't feel guilty passing her name around (i hope....*gulp*) anyway, she makes lovely tigermilk tapes, of the highest quality, and she adds the sessions!! (along with other intriguing things......) and she even sent me two!! cause the first one was tragically lost in the post. (i hope some corrupt mail delivrey person is enjoying my first copy >:( anyway, all kudos to pam in dc! ;) more kisses, lots and lots of kisses, pythipoo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 9 12:49:24 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:49:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #9 In-Reply-To: <199801081647.LAA17964@Vector.inexpress.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 8 Jan 1998 blink at inexpress.net wrote: > > >Lyn: look, Stuart, do you fancy a shag or don't you? > > > >SM: *legs it out of door with frightened look on his face, dives on to bus > >clutching harmonica, only pausing to grab some fish and chips and pay the leccy > >bill, and ends up sitting next to some blind/deaf/dumb girl in a holey jumper.* > > > >Basically Lynn, I think you're better off fancying Chris 'Cassanova' Geddes. > > > >Susannah > > No! Stuart David is the Cassanova,isn't he? ISN'T HE!?! > *** I'd imagine he's more like the bossanova, sweetie... *** alastair (xxx) > > meow meow meow > Genevieve > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Jan 9 15:24:44 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 15:24:44 GMT Subject: Sinister: If you're feeling Springfield Message-ID: <34b63024.18485678@email.mcmail.com> Oakley-Doakley, Watching Amercica's finest export (Pavement excepted) the other night, my mind started wandering something like this: Stuart M - Ned Flanders, who can forget Ned's solo soprano in Reverend Lovejoy's church? My mate Julian reckons Principal Skinner cos you can imagine Stewpot running home to Mummy. Or maybe Smithers, though I simply can't imagine why. Readers, you decide... Chris - Ralph Wiggum, clumsy but lovable. 'Miss Hoover, my face is on fire' (yes, Duke - I KNOW who sang that). Stuart D - Millhouse, obviously. Sarah - Maggie. Dummy, 'novelty instruments' - what's the difference? Isobel - tough one this....maybe Reverend Lovejoy's daughter whose sweetness stole Bart's heart at Sunday School, only to reveal herself as the naughtiest girl in the world (not my idea, I admit, but it's pretty good) Mick - Bleeding Gums Murphy cos they've both got the horn Stevie - Mr Burns - 'See you in hell'...yes, Monty would approve of that one. Richard - Homer. He can't sing either....heheh, just kidding. I really should get out more. Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leslie.chinea at xxx.com Fri Jan 9 11:17:00 1998 From: leslie.chinea at xxx.com (leslie chinea) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 11:17:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Posters Message-ID: <00007B98.4556@emimusic.com> Hey Everyone, Checked all the other EMI US Branches and there were only 10 posters left :o( To date I've gotten about a dozen poster requests. So, sad to say I can't take care of any more requests. Although I will keep checking and if I come across any more I will definitely post a message. Leslie. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Fri Jan 9 15:57:05 1998 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 10:57:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Chickfactor Message-ID: <01BD1CED.54392520@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> >I Don't Love Anyone >Century Of Fakers >>>>>>Chickfactor Is this song chickfactor about Pam Berry's old fanzine??? Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From adamrobinson at xxx.uk Fri Jan 9 14:40:50 1998 From: adamrobinson at xxx.uk (Adam Robinson) Date: Fri, 09 Jan 1998 14:40:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Praise from unexpected sources Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Jan 9 17:11:33 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:11:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: If Your Feeling Springfield Message-ID: <01BD1D21.A68B1160@pc7628> Tag wrote : >Oakley-Doakley, >Watching Amercica's finest export (Pavement excepted) the other night, >my mind started wandering something like this: Oh no !!! here goes...why do I sense a nother round of B&S / Cartoon character comparisons. >Stuart M - Ned Flanders, who can forget Ned's solo soprano in Reverend >Lovejoy's church? My mate Julian reckons Principal Skinner cos you >can imagine Stewpot running home to Mummy. Or maybe Smithers, though >I simply can't imagine why. Readers, you decide... >Chris - Ralph Wiggum, clumsy but lovable. 'Miss Hoover, my face is on >fire' (yes, Duke - I KNOW who sang that). >Stuart D - Millhouse, obviously. >Sarah - Maggie. Dummy, 'novelty instruments' - what's the difference? >Isobel - tough one this....maybe Reverend Lovejoy's daughter whose >sweetness stole Bart's heart at Sunday School, only to reveal herself >as the naughtiest girl in the world (not my idea, I admit, but it's >pretty good) >Mick - Bleeding Gums Murphy cos they've both got the horn >Stevie - Mr Burns - 'See you in hell'...yes, Monty would approve of >that one. >Richard - Homer. He can't sing either....heheh, just kidding. >I really should get out more. I think that would be dangerous !!! Only joking love ! Keep me laughing... Adrian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Jan 9 17:18:14 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:18:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Much too tall for a boyfriend. Message-ID: <01BD1D22.92956600@pc7628> >Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:07:45 +0000 (GMT) >From: Stuart Gardiner >Subject: Sinister: All sorts really... >Stuart G >The tallest man in the world, apparently... How tall ? -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Jan 8 19:39:28 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Thu, 08 Jan 1998 20:39:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Extra tracks? References: <3.0.3.16.19980107153732.2297b056@mail.online.no> <34B4AEBB.5BE0@virgin.net> Message-ID: <34B52B70.97DC6149@colon.net.> Katrina at Jeepster wrote: > For all the trainspotters, there are only three releases > of > "...Sinister" > > 1. The UK Jeepster version (released Nov 18th 1996) > cat # JPRCDS001 > 2. The US & ROW The Enclave version (released Feb > 1997 ???) cat # > 56713-26 > 3. The European Delabel/Virgin France version > (released ??? early 1997) > cat # 7243 - 844601 - 2 > > sorry to be so boring ... > That's all right. Into each life a little boredom must fall. To continue in the same boring vein, the Euro version is exactly the same...except for a highly desireable little Delabel (?) logo next to the Jeepster one, if my memory serves me right. I nearly bought it. Whatever happened to the old practice of rerecording songs in foreign languages, like Dusty Springfield. Surely B&S could help to revive this ancient art? Pierre ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Jan 9 17:21:41 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:21:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Much too tall for a boyfriend. Message-ID: <01bd1d23$0d2c2660$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Evans To: 'Sinster' ; 'StuartG' Date: 09 January 1998 17:21 Subject: Sinister: Much too tall for a boyfriend. >>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:07:45 +0000 (GMT) >>From: Stuart Gardiner >>Subject: Sinister: All sorts really... >>Stuart G >>The tallest man in the world, apparently... > >How tall ? >-- >Adrian Evans He's about 16ft 14 inches. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Fri Jan 9 18:26:42 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:26:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Much too tall for a boyfriend. In-Reply-To: <01bd1d23$0d2c2660$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrian Evans > To: 'Sinster' ; 'StuartG' > > Date: 09 January 1998 17:21 > Subject: Sinister: Much too tall for a boyfriend. > > > >>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:07:45 +0000 (GMT) > >>From: Stuart Gardiner > >>Subject: Sinister: All sorts really... > >>Stuart G > >>The tallest man in the world, apparently... > > > >How tall ? > >-- > >Adrian Evans > > > He's about 16ft 14 inches. 16ft and ... 14 INCHES ....wow...thats LOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGgg!!!!! > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Fri Jan 9 19:47:48 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 19:47:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Praise from unexpected sources Message-ID: <199801091835.SAA02213@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >There is a review of one of the Manchester shows in, of all places, >today's Daily Mail. Adrian Thrills (ex-NME news ed, I think) is fulsome in >his praise for the band and the event. The only phrase I can really >remember was "more like a small orchestra than a band". >By the way, I wouldn't normally be reading such a right-wing rag, but I >found it in the pub on my lunch hour. Sorry to bring politics onto the list but this really angered me. Every time I read the NME and it say's such mindless comments as "Cast are shit.....but at least they're shit under a Labour government" I mumble under my breath "socialist rag" I only read the NME to find out about music and the latest news and stuff. This reminds me of school when all the dumb kids moronically shout "we'd vote Labour" you posh cunts. Not posh - just not dumb. I respect your right to your own opinion and stuff and of course no hard feelings - as we are all civilized people I hope. I just felt I had to offer a differing opinion Northy ( I was shocked as I read it as well - it now stands proudly on my wall! - was it the Sunday or Saturday gig?) bye ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Fri Jan 9 18:54:41 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 12:54:41 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: philosophical musing within; not wholly B&S content Message-ID: On a slightly B&S related tangent: since Spanish classes are all that seem to be occupying my time of late, and B&S is usually what occupies my mind, I couldn't help but be reminded of B&S when we went over in class the bit of poetry that appears below. Roughy translated, it means: "How do I insult you, when I only mean to put beauty in my mind, and not my mind in the beauty?" So that's my deep thought for the day. Have a lovely weekend, everyone. ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "¿En qué te ofendo, cuando sólo intento poner bellezas en mi entendimiento y no mi entendimiento en las bellezas?" --Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Funkyseb at xxx.com Fri Jan 9 22:32:11 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 17:32:11 EST Subject: Sinister: ..with a knife and a bike chain... Message-ID: <926c708d.34b6a56c@aol.com> Alistair wrote: >It might just be don't look back, the (bob) dylan film: What a shame, I did hope they were closet Dougal fans. I've never watched rock stars in films since sitting through Labarinth at an impressionable age. And have you seen that Ned Kelly rubbish? But anyway...'Small Faces' is fantastic isn't it? Especially Kevin McKidd. and that bit when that nice artist boy got beaten up by the girls seemed very Belle and Sebastiany, at least I thought so, fragility of art etc. blah blah blah. Belle and Sebastian at the Albert Hall? Nice thought, but it wouldn't be fun for the (majority) of people in the balcony. I saw the Manics there,and I was sat somewhere in the roof, between two miserable sods, and spent the whole gig staring mournfully down at the mosh pit far,far below... and from playing there and seeing concerts there, I've found it all a bit crappy, front and backstage.Still, I agree with the sentiment. Maybe the band could buy the newly redundant Britannia, and sail around the coast, playing songs for fishermen? just a thought. Seb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Sat Jan 10 03:16:19 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 22:16:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: no b&s content: t in the park In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hi.. well it looks as though i will be getting a trip to scotland as my graduation from university present and my da said he would throw in some tickets to t in the park..so my question is: does anyone know where i could find any info on the dates this year? thank you, thank you very much...too many elvis movies yesterday! roberta **oh you look so tired mouth slack and wide ill-housed and ill-advised your face is as mean as your life has been crash into my arms i want you****** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Sat Jan 10 06:48:58 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 00:48:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Holiday article (no B&S content) Message-ID: Since someone had mentioned Holiday to the list, I figured this might be of interest. It's a review of their new album that appeared in this month's CMJ magazine. The album was "recommended if you like Magnetic Fields, Orange Juice, and Belle and Sebastian." So, here it is: ---On its last record _Ready, Steady, Go!_, Holiday had all of the makings of great lounge-pop, but couldn't piece the puzzle together. Lush horns and sweet melodies don't mean much without great hooks. On _Café Reggio_, the quartet has discovered a lot of what they were missing. Josh Gennet's spry vocal lines are immediately hummable, shimmying between the jazzy guitar lines. The album opener, "There's a Place," floats along like a dingy kissed by the summer breeze. The song might not be a classic, but it's close. With the help of Dave Max on flugelhorn, trumpet, and trombone, Holiday shows it can churn out rich and reverent arrangements using just a handful of people. Giddy rave-ups like "Something About You" and "Just Follow" are perfect fare for your next soiree at the cabana. Unfortunately, only eight out of the 12 tracks here are new. The last four are from the band's early single, "New Year's Anything," which included a cover of the Magnetic Fields' "Candy." Here the Brooklyn band rides the crest between new wave and indie rock with moderate success. Holiday has since moved its sound forward quite a bit by borrowing more from the '60s. Heck, if they had been around 30 years ago, these guys would probably be gigging with Dionne Warwick in Reno right about now.--- So, there you go. Just for anyone who was curious. I have the album, and I love it. Good stuff. ta, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "¿En qué te ofendo, cuando sólo intento poner bellezas en mi entendimiento y no mi entendimiento en las bellezas?" --Sor Juana Inés de la Cruz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Jan 10 09:31:58 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:31:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pop quiz! help me cos i wanna show off :0) Message-ID: aaaaaah! you have to help me people! i know *some* of these questions which overall just has to be the worst thing, but the nimbers and such like i have NO idea! so i am relying on Sinisterian pop experience and love to please HELP ME !!! with this pop quiz. yes i know it was on the SFA list but its starting to bug me!! 1. Complete the sequence... 8, 3, 7, ? (4) 2. Complete the sequence... 43, N/A, ?, 22, 38 (5) 3. Si tu etais un ange... Comes from which current single? And what does it mean? (2) 4. What was the UK's best-selling single of 97, and what was Europe's? (2) 5. Lauren Laverne is currently seeing which journalist? (1) 6. Who released an album last year named 'Ice Cream'? (1) 7. Name the band/track from this lyric "Idiot - Slow Down" (1) 8. Name the band/track from this lyric "Too much Montechristo No 4 - Pass The Ventolin, I need some more" (1) 9. Name 5 Welsh bands who have had top 40 hits in the last year. (5) 10. A Brimful Of Asha on the WHAT? (1) 11. Name Embrace's debut single and record label it appeared on. (2) 12. Name any three singles which have been re-released under different mixes. (3) 13. Who, if we take everything he says literally, does Thom Yorke want to be? (1) 14. Complete the sequence... I?CP?WSHIWMB?MSRSCPNP?CCO?NINCAMGIFC (10) 15. Name the only duo to have two top 40 mid-price LPs in 1997. (2) 16. "That worm-pie you made me, you made me eat from the butchers" : By whom, and what is it? (2) 17. "I stole his shoes and ran away trying jolly hard to see if we could catch him round the bend" : Again - artist and track please. (2) 18. Gene's debut single only half appears on the debut album. How and what is it? (2) 19. What year was Babies by Pulp released? (2) 20. So Make Sure That she's old enough, before.... What? (1) It's out of 50 - so just try your best. thank you for your time pop pickers :) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "I am, Yet what I am no-one cares, or knows" -- John Clare ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Sat Jan 10 11:25:25 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:25:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: warning: some attempted answers to the pop quiz! help me cos i wanna show off :0) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Sarah wrote: > aaaaaah! you have to help me people! > i know *some* of these questions which overall just has to be the worst > thing, but the nimbers and such like i have NO idea! so i am relying on > Sinisterian pop experience and love to please HELP ME !!! with this pop > quiz. yes i know it was on the SFA list but its starting to bug me!! > > 1. Complete the sequence... > 8, 3, 7, ? (4) > 2. Complete the sequence... > 43, N/A, ?, 22, 38 (5) > 3. Si tu etais un ange... Comes from which current single? And what > does > it mean? (2) isn't it the rialto single? > 4. What was the UK's best-selling single of 97, and what was Europe's? > (2) elton bloody john for the uk, surely > 5. Lauren Laverne is currently seeing which journalist? (1) tell me it isn't true! > 6. Who released an album last year named 'Ice Cream'? (1) salad > 7. Name the band/track from this lyric "Idiot - Slow Down" (1) > 8. Name the band/track from this lyric "Too much Montechristo No 4 - > Pass The Ventolin, I need some more" (1) > 9. Name 5 Welsh bands who have had top 40 hits in the last year. (5) stereophonics, catatonia, super furrys .. > 10. A Brimful Of Asha on the WHAT? (1) 45 > 11. Name Embrace's debut single and record label it appeared on. (2) why bother? they're dreadful > 12. Name any three singles which have been re-released under different > mixes. (3) loads of them > 13. Who, if we take everything he says literally, does Thom Yorke want > to > be? (1) > 14. Complete the sequence... > I?CP?WSHIWMB?MSRSCPNP?CCO?NINCAMGIFC (10) > 15. Name the only duo to have two top 40 mid-price LPs in 1997. (2) > 16. "That worm-pie you made me, you made me eat from the butchers" : By > whom, and what is it? (2) > 17. "I stole his shoes and ran away trying jolly hard to see if we > could > catch him round the bend" : Again - artist and track please. (2) > 18. Gene's debut single only half appears on the debut album. How and > what > is it? (2) > 19. What year was Babies by Pulp released? (2) 1992/3? (originally) > 20. So Make Sure That she's old enough, before.... What? (1) > > It's out of 50 - so just try your best. > > thank you for your time pop pickers :) > I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! > Sarah not a stunning performance, but anyway... i'll give it some more thought later alastair > > "I am, Yet what I am no-one cares, or knows" > -- John Clare > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lazycalm at xxx.sg Sat Jan 10 12:14:56 1998 From: lazycalm at xxx.sg (empyreal) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 20:14:56 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Other bands that get you off musically... Message-ID: <01bd1dc1$5d59c5e0$56c215a5@mypc> So... I would really love to know which other bands get you *sinister* people off...musically, that is. My own essentials include The Bathers, Apples in Stereo, Bedhead, Blueboy, Cocteau Twins, The Divine Comedy, Field Mice / Northern Picture Library / Trembling Blue Stars, Frank & Walters, The Magnetic Fields, The Innocence Mission, Low, Red House Painters, Spain, Stereolab, The Sundays, Tindersticks, Trash Can Sinatras, Versus, Buddha on the Moon, Shift, 7% Solution, ESP Summer, and Nick Drake (OK, heÂ’s not a band, but I adore him). By the way, does anyone know anything about the Pearlfishers? The review I read from TweeKitten sounded fabulous! Classic acoustic pop? "I want to take my pleasures where and how I will, be they disgraceful or distasteful or distilled and to be frank, I find that life has more appeal without a driver who's asleep behind the wheel " - Neil Hannon ("Don't Look Down", 1994) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Fri Jan 9 23:02:17 1998 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 23:02:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Praise from unexpected sources Message-ID: >Sorry to bring politics onto the list but this really angered me. > >Every time I read the NME and it say's such mindless comments as > >"Cast are shit.....but at least they're shit under a Labour >government" > >I mumble under my breath "socialist rag" Can anyone explain what Richard here is ranting about? >I only read the NME to find out about music and the latest news and >stuff. If you think music, and especially Belle and Sebastian aren't political then you are mising the point. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sat Jan 10 16:54:16 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 16:54:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: aftershow apologies In-Reply-To: <199801091532.PAA29961@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801091532.PAA29961@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34b7a68c.2043304@email.mcmail.com> On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, the tallest man in the world wrote: >So then we trundled off to the aftershow, in a ridiculously small >room the other side of town (1 person behind the bar, about 100 people >waiting to be served...). A distinct lack of Jarvis-size celebrities this >time. Oh yeah, sorry about that. We never expected so many people. The landlord opened the place especially cos all his staff were at party and he had to get friends in to work. They did open the bar downstairs, but they may just have serving the group, I'm not sure - not my decision. Chris probably kept them busy single handedly. Can't do much about the lack of celebs, I was kind of hoping smashing music and happy revellers would be enough?? It's a love thing The Sparliest Orangiest Man in the World ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Sat Jan 10 16:41:25 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadam (the extra 'A' is for archives)) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:41:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re:(NBSC) Other bands that get you off musically... References: <01bd1dc1$5d59c5e0$56c215a5@mypc> Message-ID: <34B7A4B2.B69@interaccess.com> empyreal wrote: > > So... I would really love to know which other bands get you *sinister* > people off...musically, that is. Surely a more interesting question would be, "what _non-pop_ music floats your boat?" Endless lists of pop bands are starting to drive me crazy in this season of the top ten. OK, I'll start, Steve Reich Loudon Wainwright III Balanese gamelon John Fahey Hal Kemp & his orchestra That should pick your brains Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Sat Jan 10 18:31:18 1998 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (u01cjtc) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 18:31:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: warning: some attempted answers to the pop quiz! help me cos i wanna show off :0) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Question 8 is Herman loves Pauline by the Super Furry Animals On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, A.M. Horne wrote: > > > On Sat, 10 Jan 1998, Sarah wrote: > > > aaaaaah! you have to help me people! > > i know *some* of these questions which overall just has to be the worst > > thing, but the nimbers and such like i have NO idea! so i am relying on > > Sinisterian pop experience and love to please HELP ME !!! with this pop > > quiz. yes i know it was on the SFA list but its starting to bug me!! > > > > 1. Complete the sequence... > > 8, 3, 7, ? (4) > > 2. Complete the sequence... > > 43, N/A, ?, 22, 38 (5) > > 3. Si tu etais un ange... Comes from which current single? And what > > does > > it mean? (2) > > isn't it the rialto single? > > > 4. What was the UK's best-selling single of 97, and what was Europe's? > > (2) > > elton bloody john for the uk, surely > > > 5. Lauren Laverne is currently seeing which journalist? (1) > > tell me it isn't true! > > > 6. Who released an album last year named 'Ice Cream'? (1) > > salad > > > 7. Name the band/track from this lyric "Idiot - Slow Down" (1) > > 8. Name the band/track from this lyric "Too much Montechristo No 4 - > > Pass The Ventolin, I need some more" (1) > > 9. Name 5 Welsh bands who have had top 40 hits in the last year. (5) > > stereophonics, catatonia, super furrys .. > > > 10. A Brimful Of Asha on the WHAT? (1) > > 45 > > > 11. Name Embrace's debut single and record label it appeared on. (2) > > why bother? they're dreadful > > > 12. Name any three singles which have been re-released under different > > mixes. (3) > > loads of them > > > 13. Who, if we take everything he says literally, does Thom Yorke want > > to > > be? (1) > > 14. Complete the sequence... > > I?CP?WSHIWMB?MSRSCPNP?CCO?NINCAMGIFC (10) > > 15. Name the only duo to have two top 40 mid-price LPs in 1997. (2) > > 16. "That worm-pie you made me, you made me eat from the butchers" : By > > whom, and what is it? (2) > > 17. "I stole his shoes and ran away trying jolly hard to see if we > > could > > catch him round the bend" : Again - artist and track please. (2) > > 18. Gene's debut single only half appears on the debut album. How and > > what > > is it? (2) > > 19. What year was Babies by Pulp released? (2) > > 1992/3? (originally) > > > 20. So Make Sure That she's old enough, before.... What? (1) > > > > It's out of 50 - so just try your best. > > > > thank you for your time pop pickers :) > > I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! > > Sarah > > not a stunning performance, but anyway... > > i'll give it some more thought later > > alastair > > > > "I am, Yet what I am no-one cares, or knows" > > -- John Clare > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > > . 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This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ds3624a at xxx.edu Sat Jan 10 18:29:45 1998 From: ds3624a at xxx.edu (Damon Seils) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 13:29:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Other bands that get you off musically... References: <01bd1dc1$5d59c5e0$56c215a5@mypc> Message-ID: <34B7BE18.32224E84@american.edu> OK, some other bands that have been getting me off lately... acetone the beautiful south bjork future sound of london gusgus his name is alive luna radiohead red house painters tindersticks ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Jan 10 18:44:00 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 18:44:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #10 References: <199801091532.PAA29961@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34B7C16F.EFC48EF2@totalweb.co.uk> the lovely andy dean wrote: > ok, was just doing a long overdue web site update and was > cobbling a list of the tracks played in manchester. what i > have follows but there are gaps (except for the sunday > matinee which is taken from the set list nick, er, stole). > does anyone have cononical lists for the two evening shows? > or can someone smart and intelligent and, say, australian > who has heard proper versions help fill in the gaps using > the lyric snippets that i have? thanks. > umm, don't 'spose you mean me ... well, shelley hasn't heard the tracks yet, and i've forgotten all the names of the other antipodeans on this list, so here goes ... oh, by the way, i'm actually half-and-half ... well, so say's my passports anyway ... > saturday evening: > Put The Book Back On The Shelf > I Don't Love Anyone > Century Of Fakers > Chickfactor > Slow Graffiti > ??? "I dreamt..." (words spoken by Stuart D) this is Space Boy Dream (might be Spaceboy, we didn't go over the specifics!) > Photo Jenny > ??? "...is this happening..." > Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying > Is It Wicked Not To Care? > ??? "He had a stroke at the age of 24..." > Dylan In The Movies > Arab Strap > Rollercoaster Ride now, one of these is Simple Things, and the other is a track that i'm pretty sure Stuart M sang, and i have no idea of the title ... andy, can you give me more lyrics and i'll try to figure it out. i think the "stroke at 24" one is the one i don't know, as i don't remember those lyrics in "Simple Things" boy, i wish i'd heard some tracks from the recording of the new lp ... won't be long though, as they're out of the studio on Feb 3rd, and after then we may have a date for the ep & lp. > sunday matinee: > Seeing Other People > Mayfly > Beautiful > Dirty Dream > Fox In The Snow > Tigermilk > Expectations > The Stars Of Track And Field > Lazy Line Painter Jane > Seymour Stein > Simple Things > Middle Distance Runner > Something On My Mind* > Arab Strap > > sunday evening: > Modern Rock Song > The State I Am In > (Interlude: Matchstalk Men And Matchstalk Cats And Dogs) > La Pastie De La Bourgoisie > Seeing Other People > Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying > The Loneliness Of A Middle Distance Runner > In A Nutshell* > ??? "I know where the summer goes..." I Know Where The Summer, > according to Stuart's set-list > She's Losing It > Judy And The Dream Of Horses > Century Of Elvis > Seymour Stein > Dylan In The Movies > ??? "If you want me i'll be there..." this is the most incredible song ever, "Simple Things" > Sleep The Clock Around thanks andy. i did write down the set-list for saturday, and put who sung the tracks i didn't know, but what with all the fuss and bother etc., i think we may have left it in the hotel room. some holiday ... cheers, katrina. -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Jan 10 19:54:02 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:54:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Praise from unexpected sources References: Message-ID: <34B7D1DA.3BECEA1E@eurobell.co.uk> Sandy Blair wrote: > >Sorry to bring politics onto the list but this > really angered me. > > > >Every time I read the NME and it say's such > mindless comments as > > > >"Cast are shit.....but at least they're shit > under a Labour > >government" > > > >I mumble under my breath "socialist rag" > > Can anyone explain what Richard here is ranting > about? no, it's beyond me... i just thought the NME was basically a load of crap irrespective of politics. only steven wells is vaguely interesting because he has opinions and can write... the rest is just boring. apart from the picture that someone sneaked off at the belle and sebastian hotel party. hmmm. > >I only read the NME to find out about music and > the latest news and > >stuff. > > If you think music, and especially Belle and > Sebastian aren't political > then you are mising the point. or missing A point, most certainly. In my opinion the biggest one, but there you go, that's me and my opinions on the nature of Pop again (that it is intrinsically political, with a small p...). Oh, and wasn't it stuart m who said that basically, the band was socialist? i liked the points made in the stephen pastel interview someone posted recently actually. i thought they were spot on. And you know, today i listened to 'The Wicked Palace revolution' by McCarthy today, and realised how apt it is now... sunstitute 'tony' for 'neil' and it's all painfully true. As we all knew it was, but... whatever. i'm just an old socialist feeling a bit uptight again. you know how it goes... the duke. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cc297 at xxx.ca Sat Jan 10 22:08:39 1998 From: cc297 at xxx.ca (Alvin de Leon) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 17:08:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song Release date? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: hello...does anybody know when is the official release date of B&S "Modern Rock Song" ep. please let me know... thanks... - aL ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sat Jan 10 22:27:10 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 22:27:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re:(NBSC) Other bands that get you off musically... References: <01bd1dc1$5d59c5e0$56c215a5@mypc> <34B7A4B2.B69@interaccess.com> Message-ID: <34B7F5BD.89748A62@eurobell.co.uk> > Surely a more interesting question would be, > "what _non-pop_ music > floats your boat?" > > Endless lists of pop bands are starting to drive > me crazy in this season > of the top ten. > > OK, I'll start, > Steve Reich > Loudon Wainwright III aaagh! can't go with you on this one here... i listened to a few tracks ages ago cos my mates were into it and i couldnae stand it :-( > John Fahey i've got a bit of this on a tape someone made me once, and it's very nice... no idea about titles though. i ought to explore more... and even though i'd say that these people make records that are Pop to me simply because of how i'm defining that these days, here's a few of mine: Dexter Gordon Jon Hassell Les Baxter Ernest Tubb Actually i was just going to write a piece about the Country influence in B&S. maybe tomorrow. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 00:01:46 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 00:01:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: music we love? Message-ID: <199801102249.WAA09081@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> OK - here are the bands I "get off on" though I do not like that terminology Catatonia Radiohead Velvet Underground Frente Lightning Seeds Warm Jets ermmm.........thats about it for the mo. ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 00:06:08 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Richard North) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 00:06:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: stop argument Message-ID: <199801102253.WAA09411@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> I never meant to start a full blown political debate! Basically I am (would be) a Green party voter But on a non environmental basis I am a Tory voter Please respect my opinion I respect and understand yours - but just 'cause I don't agree with it, please don't attack me now lets just carry on being Happy Bunnies (under a Labour government) b&s content - none but this will be important to making other mails with no b&s content less plentiful bye Northy ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sun Jan 11 01:31:12 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 20:31:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: pop quiz Message-ID: <199801110131.UAA07096@Vector.inexpress.net> Yeahhh,a quiz.....!!! >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:31:58 +0000 >From: Sarah >Subject: Sinister: pop quiz! help me cos i wanna show off :0) > >aaaaaah! you have to help me people! >i know *some* of these questions which overall just has to be the worst >thing, but the nimbers and such like i have NO idea! so i am relying on >Sinisterian pop experience and love to please HELP ME !!! with this pop >quiz. yes i know it was on the SFA list but its starting to bug me!! > >1. Complete the sequence... > 8, 3, 7, ? (4) >2. Complete the sequence... > 43, N/A, ?, 22, 38 (5) >3. Si tu etais un ange... Comes from which current single? And what >does >it mean? (2) >4. What was the UK's best-selling single of 97, candle in the wind and what was Europe's? ummm,that robert guy? >(2) >5. Lauren Laverne is currently seeing which journalist? (1) Andrew Male >6. Who released an album last year named 'Ice Cream'? (1) salad >7. Name the band/track from this lyric "Idiot - Slow Down" (1) radiohead...the tourist >8. Name the band/track from this lyric "Too much Montechristo No 4 - >Pass The Ventolin, I need some more" (1) >9. Name 5 Welsh bands who have had top 40 hits in the last year. (5) manics,super furry animals,gorkys zygotic mynci,catatonia,60 ft dolls >10. A Brimful Of Asha on the WHAT? (1) >11. Name Embrace's debut single and record label it appeared on. (2) Fireworks >12. Name any three singles which have been re-released under different >mixes. (3) candle in the wind,europe is our playground,she said >13. Who, if we take everything he says literally, does Thom Yorke want >to >be? (1) a crab >14. Complete the sequence... > I?CP?WSHIWMB?MSRSCPNP?CCO?NINCAMGIFC (10) >15. Name the only duo to have two top 40 mid-price LPs in 1997. (2) everything but the girl >16. "That worm-pie you made me, you made me eat from the butchers" : By >whom, and what is it? (2) marylin manson? wormboy or something? >17. "I stole his shoes and ran away trying jolly hard to see if we >could >catch him round the bend" : Again - artist and track please. (2) Menswear 'I'll Manage Somehow' >18. Gene's debut single only half appears on the debut album. How and >what >is it? (2) >19. What year was Babies by Pulp released? (2) 1994 >20. So Make Sure That she's old enough, before.... What? (1) YOU BLOW YOUR MIND! >It's out of 50 - so just try your best. > >thank you for your time pop pickers :) >I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! >Sarah oh well,i try at least... xoxo Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From dollarbrand at xxx.net Sun Jan 11 01:34:43 1998 From: dollarbrand at xxx.net (Jason Scott) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 19:34:43 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Re: bands one gets off on Message-ID: <199801110134.RAA04514@mailtod-112.bryant.webtv.net> Although resigned to just read these messages daily (or be faced with hundreds at week's end) I would like to offer a short list of bands, beside Belle & Sebastian, that set my head spinning: The For Carnation Giant Sand His Name is Alive Home Abdullah Ibrahim Astor Piazzolla ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lazycalm at xxx.sg Sun Jan 11 03:12:36 1998 From: lazycalm at xxx.sg (empyreal) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:12:36 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Other bands that get you off musically... Message-ID: <01bd1e3e$c4266c60$LocalHost@mypc> -----Original Message----- From: Damon Seils To: Belle & Sebastian Mailing List Date: Sunday, January 11, 1998 3:40 AM Subject: Re: Sinister: Other bands that get you off musically... >OK, some other bands that have been getting me off lately... > >acetone >the beautiful south >bjork >future sound of london I'm selling ISDN and Lifeforms (2CD). Both almost brand new. Interested? >gusgus >his name is alive Warren DeFever _is_ something of a demigod, isn't he? Check out ESP Summer, his side project band with Ian Masters. Acoustic, lovelorn, and painfully melancholic... >luna >radiohead >red house painters >tindersticks Have you heard the soundtrack they did for "Nenette et Boni"? Smoky French cafe atmospheres... and all the problems of the world dissolve in a cup of cheap coffee and a cigarette... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ds3624a at xxx.edu Sun Jan 11 06:21:48 1998 From: ds3624a at xxx.edu (Damon Seils) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 01:21:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Other bands that get you off musically... References: <01bd1e3e$c4266c60$LocalHost@mypc> Message-ID: <34B864FB.346C5622@american.edu> empyreal wrote: > > I'm selling ISDN and Lifeforms (2CD). Both almost brand new. Interested? Thanks, but I've got 'em! > >tindersticks > > Have you heard the soundtrack they did for "Nenette et Boni"? Smoky French > cafe atmospheres... and all the problems of the world dissolve in a cup of > cheap coffee and a cigarette... Yes, I think it's more than lovely. It's one of my favorites at the moment. --Damon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 11:51:44 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 11:51:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: manc review on web References: Message-ID: <34B8B250.5FE659CD@eurobell.co.uk> just to let anyone who's remotely interested that i've stuck a review of the Manchester sunday evening show on the Tangents web site. it's different to the one i posted after christmas... less personal, more, um, professional? maybe not :-) Anyway, under new additions or Modern Classics... message ends. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 13:56:30 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 13:56:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pop quiz - we got some answers read on! Message-ID: <9O4zPAAO+Mu0Ewec@elsato97.demon.co.uk> thank you all you lovely ppl for helping me out! here are all the answers we've got.....if you can help me get them all i would love you for ever! and if there are any very silly mistakes they are probably mine, so let me know! 1. Complete the sequence... 8, 3, 7, ? (4) i believe it's four since 8+3=11 and 7+4=11. lower and raise each alternate # by one and each pair continues to add up to eleven... 2. Complete the sequence... 43, N/A, ?, 22, 38 (5) CHART POSITIONS FOR ??? 3. Si tu etais un ange... Comes from which current single? And what does it mean? (2) UNTOUCHABLE - RIALTO MEANS 'IF YOU WERE AN ANGEL' 4. What was the UK's best-selling single of 97, and what was Europe's? (2) ELTON BLODDY JOHN -CANDLE IN THE WIND 5. Lauren Laverne is currently seeing which journalist? (1) SIMON PRICE? BUT HAS BEEN DENIED?!?!!? 6. Who released an album last year named 'Ice Cream'? (1) SALAD 7. Name the band/track from this lyric "Idiot - Slow Down" (1) RADIOHEAD - THE TOURIST 8. Name the band/track from this lyric "Too much Montechristo No 4 - Pass The Ventolin, I need some more" (1) SUPER FURRY ANIMALS - HERMANN LOVES PAULINE 9. Name 5 Welsh bands who have had top 40 hits in the last year. (5) CATATONIA, SUPER FURRY ANIMALS , MANIC STREET PREACHERS, STEREOPHONICS, GORKYS ZYGOTIC MYNCI 10. A Brimful Of Asha on the WHAT? (1) 45 11. Name Embrace's debut single and record label it appeared on. (2) ALL YOU GOOD GOOD PEOPLE - FIERCE PANDA 12. Name any three singles which have been re-released under different mixes. (3) WILDCHILD - RENEGADE MASTER SNEAKER PIMPS - SPIN SPIN SUGAR MY LIFE STORY - SPARKLE 13. Who, if we take everything he says literally, does Thom Yorke want to be? (1) JIM MORRISON - FROM 'ANYONE CAN PLAY GUITAR' OF PABLO HONEY 14. Complete the sequence... I?CP?WSHIWMB?MSRSCPNP?CCO?NINCAMGIFC (10) 15. Name the only duo to have two top 40 mid-price LPs in 1997. (2) RADIOHEAD WITH PABLO HONEY AND THE BENDS 16. "That worm-pie you made me, you made me eat from the butchers" : By whom, and what is it? (2) SILVER SUN - LAVA 17. "I stole his shoes and ran away trying jolly hard to see if we could catch him round the bend" : Again - artist and track please. (2) MENSWEAR - I'LL MANAGE SOMEHOW 18. Gene's debut single only half appears on the debut album. How and what is it? (2) FOR THE DEAD - ONLY APPEARS STRANGELY ON AN AMERICAN IMPORT SO..... 19. What year was Babies by Pulp released? (2) 1992 ORIGINALLY, THEN 1994 ON THE SISTERS EP 20. So Make Sure That she's old enough, before.... What? (1) "YOU BLOW YOUR MIND" - U16 GIRLS BY TRAVIS It's out of 50 - so just try your best. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 14:04:14 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 14:04:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Other bands that get you off musically... Message-ID: <34B8D15E.DAB8E0BA@easynet.co.uk> the duke of harringay wrote: > > Surely a more interesting question would be, "what _non-pop_ music > > floats your boat?" > > Endless lists of pop bands are starting to drive me crazy in this > season > > of the top ten. OK, I'll start, Steve Reich > > Loudon Wainwright III > > aaagh! can't go with you on this one here... i > listened to a few tracks ages ago cos my mates > were into it and i couldnae stand it :-( > Always struck me as a bit of a smug fucker ol' Loudon. John Prine would be my preferred alternative, but sans electrification. He was fucking brilliant at Glastonbury three years ago. Randy Crawford soundtracked my summer with her 'Secret Combination' CD. WC and the Maad Circle's Curb Servin' continues to amuse me, in every possible sense. Jimmy Smith's 'Home Cooking' er, cooks. Lost my favourite Drifters CD, but ain't lost my Irma Thomas vinyl. Towering above all of 'em though is George 'No Show' Jones. Angelic. > ... and even though i'd say that these people make records that are > Pop to me simply because of how i'm defining that these days, here's a > few of mine: > > Dexter Gordon > Jon Hassell > Les Baxter > Ernest Tubb > > Actually i was just going to write a piece about the Country influence > in B&S. maybe tomorrow. > > the duke > Hmmm, this I'm looking forward to. Admittedly it's the wee small hours of Sunday morning after two heavy nights on the bevies, but I can't quite see it meself. Only links my (temporarily, honest) addled brain can come up with are the distinctive singing and the 'clever' lyrical content. But they're pretty different variations on the two themes. Then again, 'Country' covers a whole swathe of music from shit to shinola and back again. If you think Gram Parsons 'She' or 'A Song for You' or ''Hickory Wind' or plenty of others and then think B & S maybe you notice the ability to take 'mundane' subject matter and fashion something that touches nerves. Gotta stop now 'cos I'm making a bad job of doing the Dook's job. night night evabody yerluvinunvleTurt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Sun Jan 11 15:17:31 1998 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 15:17:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: first mailing in a long while...... Message-ID: <01BD1EA4.0A1107C0@manray.impressions-gallery.com> hello again... and a belated happy new year to y'all!!! Like most of you I came back to work and spent the best part of a week trying to catch up on my e-mails... There was a lot of stuff from earlier digests that I though about commenting on, but the spring tide that is the sinister list has whisked the debates onwards, and it would all seem a bit old hat..... Thanks esp. for all the manchester postings, the only time I've managed to see B&S was at the union chapel. All the manc reports wetted my appetite for more (bad or good..) >By the way, does anyone know anything about the Pearlfishers? The review = >I read from TweeKitten sounded fabulous! Classic acoustic pop? Ahhh! the pearlfishers!!! When I lived in Glaosgow I used to work at a restaurant on the Dumbarton Road called two Fat Ladies (run by N.Zealand couple - very very good fish but v.expensive. Now taken iver by a dour bastard who can't cook for toffee...) One of my co-chefs was a woman called rachel who went out with, and later married (at the people's palace) mil from the pearlfishers (His full name is serbian and i can't remeber the spelling.) I don't remeber much about the band except that at the time thay seemed a bit 'rocktastic' (ie more deacon blue than B&S) and mil had a tendency to show off his bum in tight jeans.... All that might have changed tho', so dont take my word for it > 7. Name the band/track from this lyric "Idiot - Slow Down" (1) Its by radiohead, off OK Computer, but can't remember the name right now... BTW, doncha just love genevieve's mailings? she is definently on a nuvva planet, but cute as hell.... that's all my tardy brain can cope with just now. laters matlock (too many matts on this list!!) PS wish me luck this friday, as i have an interview for a new job!!! its for the artistic director of a new digital art gallery opening in huddersfield..... (/MATLOCK crosses his fingers...) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 18:48:20 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Northy) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:48:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: cartoon.... Message-ID: <199801111735.RAA19851@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Isn't it funny that if you put a group of students in a room, they will always end up talking about the cartoons they watched when they were young? I noticed that they do.... On the subject of cartoons... I think that Belle & Sebastian should be called Pink Panther 'cause that was a great cartoon. Convert Count 1 (but trying harder) Northy...... (see me - http:/www.concentric.net/~Mystyang/Northy.html) ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From yazansam at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 18:00:02 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Mr Arefin) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:00:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Stuart M's dimples/Other bands that get you off musically../ The Franks Message-ID: <199801111811.SAA05433@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> > So... I would really love to know which other bands get you *sinister* > people off...musically, that is. > > My own essentials include The Bathers, Apples in Stereo, Bedhead, Blueboy, > Cocteau Twins, The Divine Comedy, Field Mice / Northern Picture Library / > Trembling Blue Stars, Frank & Walters, The Magnetic Fields, The Innocence > Mission, Low, Red House Painters, Spain, Stereolab, The Sundays, > Tindersticks, Trash Can Sinatras, Versus, Buddha on the Moon, Shift, 7% > Solution, ESP Summer, and Nick Drake (OK, he's not a band, but I adore him). > distasteful or distilled and to be frank, I find that life has more appeal > without a driver who's asleep behind the wheel " > - Neil Hannon ("Don't Look Down", 1994) May I ask why the Frank and Walters (otherwise known as "The Sweetest Men In Pop" ) only come ninth on your list? Tut tut. I went to one of their gigs in April and the guy-whose-dad-is-a-priest-or-something-out-of-the-divine-comedy was there, looking extremly short... And talking of famous people I can indeed confirm that Jarvis Coker is a bit of a B$S fan coz me& friends bumped into him in the loos at the Union Chapel gig (after having first accidentally walked in on the mens' loos- it really was an accident an non of the blokes seemed to mind too much....) Anyway, whilst at this said Union Chapel gig my best-friend confided to me that she found Stuart M quite attractive. After almost choking on my drink, I asked why. She revealed that it was in fact his dimples which were so alluring... (Me, I liked the trumpet-blowing-cutie whose name i don't know) Love the up-till-now-secretly-lurking- Yaz PS Ben, Triumphant chorus of "We love you, we do, we love you Ben, we do " x10 Thankx & love from many north london Tigermilk-brandishing Belle &Seb converts. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 19:13:22 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:13:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: pop quiz - we got some answers read on! In-Reply-To: <9O4zPAAO+Mu0Ewec@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: First some possible answers... > > 4. What was the UK's best-selling single of 97, and what was Europe's? > (2) > ELTON BLODDY JOHN -CANDLE IN THE WIND > Europe's was probably that one by Sarah Brightman and Andrea Botticelli or whatever his name is, that's now the biggest selling song of all time in Germany... > 15. Name the only duo to have two top 40 mid-price LPs in 1997. (2) > RADIOHEAD WITH PABLO HONEY AND THE BENDS Since when have Radiohead been a duo? > Other matters - B&S at the Albert Hall. Apparently it holds 3000, so in a few months tims they could sell it out. As for being stuck in a seat between two people you can't have a decent conversation with, firstly I think you can stand downstairs, and also it wiould probably be possible to sell unreserved tickets in each area of the hall, so you could sit next to who you liked. This is always a problem at seated gigs; how was it done at the Union Chapel? Oh, and Rialto's new single went ibnto the charts at 20, and apparently the album is due in March. And Keith, I'm not THAT tall... Stuart ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 19:05:11 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:05:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Other bands that get you off musically... Message-ID: > OK, I'll start, > Steve Reich i've heard of Steve Wright, would that count? > Loudon Wainwright III Um, heard of London?!?! > John Fahey My cousin is called John. here's a few of mine: Dexter Gordon - out of dexdexter? ooh, i remeber Romo.... Jon Hassell - Les Baxter - Ena's husband? Ernest Tubb - sounds like a bath tub maker to me I feel so mainstream :) heres some of my top pop artistes. Manics Super Furries Gorkys Dogmanstar suede, not as much Coming Up suede. not intensely intense enough really. but the most pop MUSIC album i own really. i got it cos it was six quid at the Zoo. hmmm. St Etienne John Shuttleworth Spiritualized Tom Jones Radiohead heehe. and may i say that i HATE bjork. and as for catatonia, cerys might as well be bjork but without the beats. bjork and the dullards? i liked Bleed, i saw them on TFI and wanted to shoot them. hmmm. no doubt i may change my mind soon. i tend to often. eg i bought the ADF cd on last thurs. hated it. listened to it again sat and thought it was great. ooh the shallowality of it all. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "I am, Yet what I am no-one cares, or knows" -- John Clare OR! "I 'yams what i 'yam" --Poppeye ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sun Jan 11 19:36:43 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 19:36:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: politics? In-Reply-To: <199801111810.SAA10436@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801111810.SAA10436@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34bb1eda.3386693@email.mcmail.com> Richard North wrote: >But on a non environmental basis I am a Tory voter > >Please respect my opinion > >I respect and understand yours - but just 'cause I don't agree with >it, please don't attack me and later... >Isn't it funny that if you put a group of students in a room, they >will always end up talking about the cartoons they watched when they >were young? > >I noticed that they do.... Here's a wry observation. Have you noticed how if you put a Tory on a mailing list, he starts warbling on about keeping politics out of it. Guilty conscience, I reckon. Red Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 22:14:00 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Northy) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:14:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Are we in the presence of something really special? I think so. Message-ID: <199801112101.VAA07028@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> I got a phone call from a friend a minute ago. He said that on a whim he bought 'If You are Feeling Sinister' from HMV. (to see what all the fuss I was making was about). He loves it and now wants to borrow my three EPs. Shall I let him? Well I have a tape of the BBC sessions now and Tigermilk is coming (or is it Steve?) so I think I will. The word is growing. Oh and I think someone who has a huge collection of music said they have a rack of 24 cds and stuff which he/she listens to the most. just out out interest - what is in the 24? Convert Count - 2 and growing..... Northy Isn't it weird - you want as many of your friends to hear B&S as possible but wouldn't you hate it if everyone liked them and you were just another fan.........I think this.......I don't want to be just another faceless fan. We are priveleged. Let us enjoy our position while we can ________________________________________________________________________ ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 22:19:54 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Northy) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 22:19:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: if you wanna be a star.....tell a monkey where you are! Message-ID: <199801112107.VAA07717@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> > Oh, and Rialto's new single went ibnto the charts at 20, and apparently > the album is due in March. I'm sorry buy why has this bloody Rialto song got so much attention recently? It is very, very shit. Monday Morning 5:19 was millions of times better. If you don't agree on an opinion basis at least look at it on a musical basis. The song has no melody. It has a moderately catchy beat but the chorus!!!! What is it? Some bloke shouting Untouchable to hide the fact that their is no melody there. I really am flabbergasted about how this song gets so much attention! Tell you what though - Rialto have been appearing on everything from Planet Sound to TFI Friday.....and I tell you what.....they speak **** bye Northy ___________________________________________________ ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 22:09:02 1998 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: 11 Jan 1998 22:09:02 GMT Subject: Sinister: pop quiz / Albert Hall In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <68DC7752.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> > > 15. Name the only duo to have two top 40 mid-price LPs in 1997. (2) > > RADIOHEAD WITH PABLO HONEY AND THE BENDS > > Since when have Radiohead been a duo? Good point, Um maybe it's Cannon & Ball with "Rock on Tommy" volumes 1&2? Or the Chuckle Brothers who quite frankly scare me! Robson & Jerome maybe. > > > > Other matters - B&S at the Albert Hall. Apparently it holds 3000, so in a > few months tims they could sell it out. As for being stuck in a seat > between two people you can't have a decent conversation with, firstly I > think you can stand downstairs, and also it wiould probably be possible to > sell unreserved tickets in each area of the hall, so you could sit next to > who you liked. This is always a problem at seated gigs; how was it done at > the Union Chapel? I'm sure they could fill it now, tell the strange goth people that keeep on cropping up on the irc that Belle & Sebastian are gonna recreate the final show of the classic Sisters Of Mercy line up & it'll sell out in no time. Flood the place in dry ice which will also obscure the band while they swop instruments etc & at the same time the goth people will be able to enlighten us with hair crimping tips & how to build those human pyramids while the band plays. Hmmm maybe I know too much about this..... > > Oh, and Rialto's new single went ibnto the charts at 20, and apparently > the album is due in March. Saw them on the chart show, is the singer person Brett Andersons bigger nosed brother? steve "Have you noticed the people who shout the loudest, always have the least to say?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nrbqlover at xxx.com Sun Jan 11 23:02:56 1998 From: Nrbqlover at xxx.com (Nrbqlover) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 18:02:56 EST Subject: Sinister: other sounds(no B&S) Message-ID: <58e2ae1.34b94fa1@aol.com> i've enjoyed reading other's lists-so i thought i'd pass on a few bands from an anglophile in LA: GBV, Olivia Tremor Control, Neutral Milk Hotel, Melt, Magoo, The Male Nurse, David Wrench, Father, Pink Kross and Palace would be a current top ten. Velvet Underground, Modern Lovers, Wedding Present, Orange Juice, Brilliant Corners, June Brides, Lemonheads, Pavement, Patti Smith, Replacements would make me happy on a desert island as long as i could bring my B&S collection. Ornette Coleman, Tipsy, Miles Davis, Tortoise, John Coltrane, Hank Williams, Patsy Cline, Steve Reich, Sonny Sharrock and Sun Ra would pass the time if i couldn't play any pop music. as my good friend iggy pop once said: "Thank you for your kind indulgence!" clem lane nrbqlover at aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sun Jan 11 23:37:39 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 23:37:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping Message-ID: <34B957C3.6539613C@totalweb.co.uk> but before you think i'm going off topic, i'm sort of working backwards belle and sebastian > nick drake > bert jansch which is what i would like, so if anyone has a superior collection of bert jansch's recordings and would be willing to do a tape, i'd really appreciate it mail me with your address and i'll get a tape sent of to you david kitchen -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Mon Jan 12 00:51:00 1998 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 00:51:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping Message-ID: >which is what i would like, so if anyone has a superior collection of >bert jansch's recordings and would be willing to do a tape, i'd really >appreciate it > >mail me with your address and i'll get a tape sent of to you > >david kitchen I hope that you get copyright clearence first... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Mon Jan 12 01:01:30 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:01:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Are we in the presence of something really special? I think so. In-Reply-To: <199801112101.VAA07028@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, Northy wrote: > Oh and I think someone who has a huge collection of music said they > have a rack of 24 cds and stuff which he/she listens to the most. ok, that would be me.. > just out out interest - what is in the 24? in alphabetical order they are: 1. ballroom - take it (cd single) 2. B&s - if youre feeling sinister 3. billy bragg - the internationale 4. nick cave and the bad seeds - murder ballads 5. elcka - look at you now (cd single) 6. fun boy three/the colourfield - the singles 7. godfathers of change - a tribute to the smiths (2cd of mainly florida bands) 8. gorky's zygotic mynci - introducing.. 9. inspiral carpets - how it should be (cd single) 10. kenickie - punka (cd 1&2) 11. luscious jackson - in search of manny ep 12. sarah mclachlan - surfacing 13. morrissey - world of.. 14. the number 1 punk album 15. double cd gary numan tribute album 16. pulp - help the aged (cd single) 17. ride - live light 18. shaken and stirred - david arnold james bond project 19. the smiths - louder than bombs 20. the specials 21. the sundays - static & silence 22. u2 - please (cd single) 23. vox class of '97 24. wolfgang press- mama told me not to come (cd single) and thats all she wrote, roberta ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 09:43:44 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:43:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: Message-ID: <34B9E5D0.FC1ACFC4@totalweb.co.uk> Sandy Blair wrote: > >which is what i would like, so if anyone has a superior collection of > >bert jansch's recordings and would be willing to do a tape, i'd really > >appreciate it > > > >mail me with your address and i'll get a tape sent of to you > > > >david kitchen > > I hope that you get copyright clearence first... ah, wit in it's highest form. you must be referring to the autumn spat about the recording of tigermilk onto CD? if so then i think you'd also agree that these things are in different leagues. i agree and support home taping to help distribute music in a non-profit (swap) way. but i do not agree with the production of CD's, as these nearly always require a payment to be made, and it is from these that bootleggers are given the opportunity to produce mass quantitty bootlegs. belle and sebastian may be wavering over the re-issue of tigermilk but they have stated publicly that this is something they plan, more a question of when. as such bootlegging would be a serious threat to it's imminent success and would threaten to reduce the revenue that the band would receive. if you think that bootlegging is just a myth and doesn't affect the industry then maybe you should also read Saturdays Guardian. some of the facts held within that included: 70% of music available in the former USSR is bootlegged 22% of the italian music industry is bootlegged only £1.61 from a £13.99 CD ends up with the artist globally 1in 3 CD's sold is manufactured illegally if you would now like to argue that there is no difference between doing a tape for someone and recording Tigermilk onto CD, then go ahead. i have no difficulty in finding the strength to defend the bands future revenue as i feel they above anyone else here deserve and have earned it. david kitchen "yes i know what i've now started" @ the fanclub (but that doesn't make my views that of the fanclub, label or band) -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 09:54:37 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 09:54:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Toooooooo Tall. Message-ID: <01BD1F40.1BCC8C40@pc7628> Date: Fri, 9 Jan 1998 18:26:42 +0000 (GMT) From: CMD LOO Subject: Re: Sinister: Much too tall for a boyfriend. On Fri, 9 Jan 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrian Evans > To: 'Sinster' ; 'StuartG' > > Date: 09 January 1998 17:21 > Subject: Sinister: Much too tall for a boyfriend. > > > >>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:07:45 +0000 (GMT) > >>From: Stuart Gardiner > >>Subject: Sinister: All sorts really... > >>Stuart G > >>The tallest man in the world, apparently... > > > >How tall ? > >-- > >Adrian Evans > > > He's about 16ft 14 inches. >16ft and ... 14 INCHES ....wow...thats >LOOOOOONNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGgg!!!!! Wow indeed !!! Gargantuam. He must stand in the stair-wells of double-decker buses??? Can we have varification from the man himself ? -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 10:25:32 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 10:25:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Chitchat Message-ID: Lots of people have mailed me asking for help with getting on to chat. I haven't replied - bit swamped. David Kitchen's offered to take over chat advice, so if you can't get on and are completely stuck please mail him - he's at d.kitchen at virgin.net. I bought some more C60s today. Next single vote no. 1: Slow Grafitti Honey -- Smithers - release the hounds. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 11:12:47 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:12:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: pop quiz In-Reply-To: <199801110131.UAA07096@Vector.inexpress.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 10 Jan 1998 blink at inexpress.net wrote: > > Yeahhh,a quiz.....!!! > > > >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 09:31:58 +0000 > >From: Sarah > >Subject: Sinister: pop quiz! help me cos i wanna show off :0) > > > >aaaaaah! you have to help me people! > >i know *some* of these questions which overall just has to be the worst > >thing, but the nimbers and such like i have NO idea! so i am relying on > >Sinisterian pop experience and love to please HELP ME !!! with this pop > >quiz. yes i know it was on the SFA list but its starting to bug me!! > > > >1. Complete the sequence... > > 8, 3, 7, ? (4) > >2. Complete the sequence... > > 43, N/A, ?, 22, 38 (5) > >3. Si tu etais un ange... Comes from which current single? And what > >does > >it mean? (2) > >4. What was the UK's best-selling single of 97, > candle in the wind > and what was Europe's? > ummm,that robert guy? miles??? > > >(2) > >5. Lauren Laverne is currently seeing which journalist? (1) > Andrew Male > >6. Who released an album last year named 'Ice Cream'? (1) > > salad > > >7. Name the band/track from this lyric "Idiot - Slow Down" (1) > radiohead...the tourist > > >8. Name the band/track from this lyric "Too much Montechristo No 4 - > >Pass The Ventolin, I need some more" (1) > >9. Name 5 Welsh bands who have had top 40 hits in the last year. (5) > > manics,super furry animals,gorkys zygotic mynci,catatonia,60 ft dolls don't think gorky's actually made the top 40... > >10. A Brimful Of Asha on the WHAT? (1) > >11. Name Embrace's debut single and record label it appeared on. (2) > Fireworks > > > >12. Name any three singles which have been re-released under different > >mixes. (3) > candle in the wind (is a rerecording the same as a remix?) ,europe is our playground,she said > >13. Who, if we take everything he says literally, does Thom Yorke want > >to > >be? (1) > > a crab > > > >14. Complete the sequence... > > I?CP?WSHIWMB?MSRSCPNP?CCO?NINCAMGIFC (10) > >15. Name the only duo to have two top 40 mid-price LPs in 1997. (2) > everything but the girl > > >16. "That worm-pie you made me, you made me eat from the butchers" : By > >whom, and what is it? (2) > marylin manson? wormboy or something? > > >17. "I stole his shoes and ran away trying jolly hard to see if we > >could > >catch him round the bend" : Again - artist and track please. (2) > > Menswear 'I'll Manage Somehow' > > > >18. Gene's debut single only half appears on the debut album. How and > >what > >is it? (2) > >19. What year was Babies by Pulp released? (2) > 1994 (it was before then, i'm sure: that was the rerelease) > > >20. So Make Sure That she's old enough, before.... What? (1) > > YOU BLOW YOUR MIND! > > > >It's out of 50 - so just try your best. > > > >thank you for your time pop pickers :) > >I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! > >Sarah > > oh well,i try at least... > xoxo > Genevieve > so do i: between us we'll sort it out... alastair > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Mon Jan 12 12:46:44 1998 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:46:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping Message-ID: >if you would now like to argue that there is no difference between doing a >tape for someone and recording Tigermilk onto CD, then go ahead. >i have no difficulty in finding the strength to defend the bands future >revenue as i feel they above anyone else here deserve and have earned it. So you have no difficulty stealing from Bert Jansch? What did he ever do to you? Why doe Bert, Mr Jansch and all the little Jansches not deserve food on their table? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bramly at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 13:36:07 1998 From: bramly at xxx.uk (Bramleys) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:36:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: names Message-ID: <01bd1f5f$0995ac40$LocalHost@bramly> OK, here's a proposition. Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all the boys to Sebastian. They'll be this sudden rush at the solicitor's offices around the world, and eventually this massive phemomenon will reach headline news. There'll be loads of questions: How was it organised? Why? And then when our epitaphs are written, people will say "Ah, the famous 98 B&S Sinister-listee outbreak. I took a degree in it. Interesting stuff." and it'll be like plague victims but much nicer. Wouldn't that be fun? bethey bramly at globalnet.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sami.keinanen at xxx.fi Mon Jan 12 13:45:56 1998 From: sami.keinanen at xxx.fi (Sami Keinanen) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:45:56 +0200 Subject: Sinister: TO BRIAN FROM EDINBURGH Message-ID: <01bd1f60$6895a140$4e739cc3@opetus04.tk-opisto.fi> Hello, Brian. It is nice to hear you liked staying in Jyväskylä. It's quite a familiar town, because I have some friends living in there. One of them is also studying in Jyväskylä university. I live in Turku which is lies in southwest part of Finland - in case you're interested. I study media and journalism, but not in university. I would love to visit Scotland. We were in London with my girlfriend few weeks ago and it was a jolly good trip. A couple of years ago I spend new year's eve in Ireland in Mullingar. That was - shall I say - quite intresting. What Smiths documentary you saw in Vakiopaine. It's also one of my favorite bands. Hope to hear more from you, Brian. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From olaf7 at xxx.is Mon Jan 12 15:04:23 1998 From: olaf7 at xxx.is (OMUser=Olafia Svansdottir) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:04:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what goes on in iceland Message-ID: ---------- From: Olafia Svansdottir To: 'Belle and Sebastian' Subject: what goes on in iceland Date: Monday, 12 January, 1998 2:33PM At long last Belle & Sebastian have arrived to Iceland, So all of you Icelandic fans can stop worrying (all two of us:me and my boyfriend).We heard them on a radioshow this weekend and one of their album(yes only one copy) i saw in a store ( i made my friend buy the other one!). On this radioshow they played Seymour Stein, Sleep around the clock and slow graffiti Something all of you have probably heard thousand times, but it was the first time for us. And you know what? The dj even mentioned you guys-he said that people on the internet were talking about how they cried their eyes out every time they listened to B&S, which is kind of true-right? There was a spy among us!!! This has helped us pass the time while we're waiting for our 8-369seconds,8-dog on wheels order from David which should arrive anyminuite now(was that the doorbell?) (a little story- not a very interesting one,but what the hell) We first heard B&S on alternative nation this summer, and when we went to London we ( i'm using this" we" an awfull lot aint i)bought IYFS and LLPJ- that evening we(here i go again) came tired to our b&b only to read in london time out magazine that B&S were having a consert that same night in the Union chapel- which we had absolutly no idea where was and saw no chance of getting there, then for the sake of comfort we decided that it was sold out. We spent that night in Sega world. p.s.Pam: Orvar wants to tell you that he is sorry he hasnt sent you the tape yet but it's on the way.Ok Olla...and a little bit Orvar begin 777 WINMAIL.DAT :>)\^(@```0N``0`)````,S="0SA"138`Y`$O ` end ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 14:34:08 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:34:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re:(NBSC) Other bands References: <01bd1dc1$5d59c5e0$56c215a5@mypc> <34B7A4B2.B69@interaccess.com> <34B7F5BD.89748A62@eurobell.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BA29E0.B23AC670@colon.net.> the duke of harringay wrote: > > OK, I'll start, > > Steve Reich Is this the "it's going to rain, it's going to rain..." bloke? Heard an interview with him on the radio not long ago. Splendid chap, liked him a lot. > > > > Loudon Wainwright III > > aaagh! can't go with you on this one here... i > listened to a few tracks ages ago cos my mates > were into it and i couldnae stand it :-( A question. The LWIII song on Big Star Live, Motel Bloooooes, is it a comedy song originally? Obviously not very comic in the Big Star version, but I read somewhere that Loudon did a lot of comedy songs. Just a thought. > > > > John Fahey > > i've got a bit of this on a tape someone made me > once, and it's very nice... no idea about titles > though. i ought to explore more... I've got The Legend of Blind Joe Death super extended CD version with two versions of most songs. It's very nice, especially for falling asleep to. According to the sleeve notes, people in the swinging sixties used it as a soundtrack for "making love". Takes all sorts dunt it? > and even though i'd say that these people make > records that are Pop to me simply because of how > i'm defining that these days, here's a few of > mine: > > Dexter Gordon Meeeowww! Choo Choo Mitchell'll be slinking round in his beret. > Jon Hassell > Les Baxter Top one. I like the one with stairs in it. Or is that someone else? > Ernest Tubb > > Actually i was just going to write a piece about > the Country influence in B&S. maybe tomorrow. > I believe that it is a country influence filtered through the Orange Juice influence. > the duke > keep the faith. > -- > Tangents On-Line > http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ > Tangents On-Paper: PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK > > tangent at mail.zynet.co.uk your address upstairs has changed, but this one remains the same. Dark deeds are afoot in Devon. I'm beginning to quite like that Pakistani bloke who kicked the bucket, Nusfrat Fatty Kahn, or something similar. Him and his mates really get into a groove. My new flat mates have got an album called tropical feelings or something. It makes you feel like you're in the rain forest, sitting between a tinkling waterfall and a bloke with a synthesizer. I quite enjoyed it. Then I said it reminded me of Tangerine Dream, and for some reason they switched it off. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 15:24:31 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:24:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tories, taping.... Message-ID: <34BA35AF.A5EB53EA@colon.net.> I applaud Mister Northy's decision to come out of the closet and declare himself a Conservative Environmentalist. I don't think it makes much difference really. I preach the gospel of Universal Love in the Afternoon. Having said that, the only good Tory is a lavatory. Bootlegging is big business here, but I've hardly ever seen bootlegs of official releases, just shitty recordings of shitty concerts and a strange Beatles remix album that appears to be intended for Psychic TV fans. I was looking forward to the Jeepster response when someone mentioned Tigermilk tapes for sale not so long ago, but they let it lie. A great disappointment to those of us who like a good scrap. I've been reading some stuff about the problems of copyright policing in this modern world of information by-passes. But nothing about Belle and Sebastian. I didn't get a single question right in that quiz Comrade Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 16:50:15 1998 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:50:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: kitchen Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980112165015.2ce75e9e@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> Hello sinisters, >Sarah wrote: >19. What year was Babies by Pulp released? (2) >1992 ORIGINALLY, THEN 1994 ON THE SISTERS EP I was listening to Babies in January 1993, I believe (I'm showing off-maybe and I'm showing my age), so I suppose it was released the previous year. Stylorock is marvellous. This is 'aesthetics' and content, class-ic. Which brings me to the Rialto Issue. Being tres stylish is great, I'm all surface - no feeling myself (yeah, right), but it doesn't really account for making songs that sound like 'forever J' by the Lig*tning Se*ds. >Northy wrote: >Isn't it weird - you want as many of your friends to hear B&S as >possible but wouldn't you hate it if everyone liked them and you were >just another fan.........I think this.......I don't want to be just >another faceless fan. >We are priveleged. Let us enjoy our position while we can Fuck that and fuck you. (I hope I don't get told off by Honeydive Paul) I hope our beloved monsters of rock, lords of sleaze and kings of debauchery become rich and famous, it's their Ffate and yours is to whine and tell everyone how you knew them first. >the duke of harringay wrote: >apart from the >picture that someone sneaked off at the belle and >sebastian hotel party. And that was only Sunday afternoon. Your name reminds me of a track from sabres' divine 'haunted dancehall'. Splendid. >Olafia wrote: >We first heard B&S on alternative nation this summer Hi Olafia, I'm Kelly. Isn't lazy line painter Jane one of the most beautiful videos ever made? I didn't think much of the single (the 'guest' girl's voice is irritating for me) until I saw this. Kitchen: a grand and ridiculous (life) story. Don't miss it! Showing at your local cinema now! Bye, Laurie Lemans (I love the gentle people) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 16:51:11 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 16:51:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: names In-Reply-To: <01bd1f5f$0995ac40$LocalHost@bramly> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Bramleys wrote: > Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all the boys to Sebastian. They'll be this sudden rush at the solicitor's offices around the world, and eventually this massive phemomenon will reach headline news. There'll be loads of questions: How was it organised? Why? And then when our epitaphs are written, people will say "Ah, the famous 98 B&S Sinister-listee outbreak. I took a degree in it. Interesting stuff." and it'll be like plague victims but much nicer. Bethey I think this is a truly brilliant idea. I have been wanting to ditch my middle name for ages. Someone in the UK who's done it tell us how much and how. Although I can't guarantee I'll pick Sebastian. I might pick Belle or I might pick Wee Chris. My mate was called Neil Heydon-Dumbleton and he changed his name to Neil Heydon Heydon-Dumbleton. This is true. HoneyPot -- Smithers, release the hounds. From AmyRicha at xxx.com Mon Jan 12 17:09:54 1998 From: AmyRicha at xxx.com (AmyRicha) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 12:09:54 EST Subject: Sinister: My bip bopping days are over Message-ID: Well everyone, we've had some very interesting ideas recently! I reckon we should all go out and have our middle names as 'belle' for girls 'sebastian' for boys- that is the best idea i've heard all year :):) Also, about Bert Jansch... go ahead and record what you like- home taping is naughty i suppose but then we all do naughty things and also, i've tried finding people like bert jansch, nick drake et al on vinyl- i hate CDs(see that post from david about how bootlegging thrives on them etc) and basically there have been no rereleases or anything so I have bought records second/third/fourth etc hand. And i'm not about to buy any bert jansch on one of those shiny little discs of terror- sorry to the jansch family but as david says >>only £1.61 from a £13.99 CD ends up with the artist. Now, if I buy old records, am I stealing from mr jansch just because he won't get any profit from the sale? How is that different from home taping, from bert's point of view? Home taping is a humane way of spreading good music! Without home taping, I couldn't have convinced my friends to go out and buy Belle and Sebastian records, and without home taping, i would be very sad because I love Nick Drake and it's almost impossible to find his original records, and there've been no rereleases on vinyl. Should I go out and buy a Nick Drake cd? That would compromise my ethics!:) And anyway, when tigermilk gets rereleased I'm going to buy it even though i have it on tape! I hope that fuzzy argument made sense, and dispute with me if you like- "if there's one thing i learned when i was still a child it's to take a hiding" :) .............................................................................. ............ Being a ve May 1996 when he sent john the album. In the letter it says "We are recording another lp in August, Cock Fun, with a London independant called Jeepster" Does this mean that the original title for If You're Feeling Sinister was Cock Fun? Anyone know what happened to make them change their minds? I think it's quite a funny title, but maybe not as good. This letter has also got Stuart's home address and telephone number on it..... .............................................................................. ............... Northy says>>Well I have a tape of the BBC sessions now if i sent you a tape, could you record them for me? I could give you stuart's phone number and address in return...:):):) >>Isn't it weird - you want as many of your friends to hear B&S as >>possible but wouldn't you hate it if everyone liked them and you were >>just another fan.........I think this.......I don't want to be just >>another faceless fan. >>We are priveleged. Let us enjoy our position while we can Absolutely- it's very very precious!!! anyway, that's all for today love and kisses from amy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Jan 12 17:33:48 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:33:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what goes on in iceland References: Message-ID: <34BA53FC.3653@virgin.net> Olafia Svansdottir wrote: > On > this radioshow they played Seymour Stein, Sleep around the clock and > slow graffiti > Something all of you have probably heard thousand times, but it was the > first time for us. > And you know what? The dj even mentioned you guys-he said that people > on the internet were talking about how they cried their eyes out every > time they listened to B&S, which is kind of true-right? There was a spy > among us!!! oh man, how embarrassing, did anyone else say anything about tears, or is it just me? bloody bugger indeed! who's the spy??? on a lighter note, i just found out today that the band read the mail from their office most days, so if you want to say hello ... here's your opportunity! cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Mon Jan 12 17:33:34 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:33:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song Release date? References: Message-ID: <34BA53EE.404D@virgin.net> Alvin de Leon wrote: > > hello...does anybody know when is the official release > date of B&S "Modern Rock Song" ep. > please let me know... > > thanks... > > - aL There is no official release dat yet, but hopefully once the band have finished in the studio (first week of feb.) then they'll put together the tracks for the EP and 3rd LP, and decide on some release dates. it's trying to be patient ... cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ggy3swm4 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 17:31:21 1998 From: ggy3swm4 at xxx.uk (Me) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:31:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Christmas presents Message-ID: <3325923093E@novell2.bham.ac.uk> Having just got back to uni, I should like to share this moment with you all: 1:54 a.m. Christmas Day. Being only a poor (very poor) student, i'd survived on merely the EPs until someone was kind enough to buy me IYFS as a present. Having cajoled a friend into doing so, I spent Christmas Eve down the pub (as you do), spending more money that I couldn't afford and exchanging pressies. Then I went home, drunk, but not too drunk: ABSOLUTELY AWESOME. I remember looking at my watch, midway through 'Judy and the Dream of Horses', and thinking this may be the greatest Christmas present ever. It was 1:54 am. That's all. Thankyou for indulging me. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s.willis at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 17:53:44 1998 From: s.willis at xxx.net (s.willis) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:53:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: <34B9E5D0.FC1ACFC4@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BA58A8.E74@virgin.net> Hello all! Here we go > > >which is what i would like, so if anyone has a superior collection of > > >bert jansch's recordings and would be willing to do a tape, i'd really > > >appreciate it > > > > > >mail me with your address and i'll get a tape sent of to you > > > > > >david kitchen > > > > I hope that you get copyright clearence first... > > ah, wit in it's highest form. I think that it was probably meant as a joke and not to be taken too seriously. > you must be referring to the autumn spat about the recording of tigermilk > onto CD? > if so then i think you'd also agree that these things are in different > leagues. > > i agree and support home taping to help distribute music in a non-profit > (swap) way. > but i do not agree with the production of CD's, as these nearly always > require a payment to be made, and it is from these that bootleggers are > given the opportunity to produce mass quantitty bootlegs. > > belle and sebastian may be wavering over the re-issue of tigermilk but they > have stated publicly that this is something they plan, more a question of > when. > as such bootlegging would be a serious threat to it's imminent success and > would threaten to reduce the revenue that the band would receive. > > if you think that bootlegging is just a myth and doesn't affect the > industry then maybe you should also read Saturdays Guardian. > some of the facts held within that included: > 70% of music available in the former USSR is bootlegged > 22% of the italian music industry is bootlegged > only £1.61 from a £13.99 CD ends up with the artist > globally 1in 3 CD's sold is manufactured illegally > > if you would now like to argue that there is no difference between doing a > tape for someone and recording Tigermilk onto CD, then go ahead. > i have no difficulty in finding the strength to defend the bands future > revenue as i feel they above anyone else here deserve and have earned it. Um, ok. (says the following as he fastens helmet and backs into a trench) if "doing a tape for someone" can include recording Tigermilk onto a tape (you didn't specify), why is that then different to recording Tigermilk onto a CD? If it is only going to one person anyway, why does it mattter what format it happens to be on? If, say, I had the equipment to record onto a CD would you be opposed to me copying Tigermilk onto it for a mate so that s/he could listen to it? Love and hugs Tom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris.hall5 at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 18:10:27 1998 From: chris.hall5 at xxx.net (Chris Hall) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:10:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: chat the clock around Message-ID: <34BA5C92.55EAABF4@virgin.net> There is also help with chat ( and mIRC available for download ) in the Business World ! - News section - address below. -- Boo to the Business World ! http://freespace.virgin.net/chris.hall5/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 18:14:02 1998 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (u01cjtc) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:14:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping In-Reply-To: <34B957C3.6539613C@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: Wow, I love bert jansch, saw him live in edinburgh during the festival it was brilliant, he's so cool. I only have one of his recording though, Live at the 12 bar, but I left it at home so wouldn't be able to do a tape just yet. Cheerio Colin On Sun, 11 Jan 1998, David & Katrina wrote: > but before you think i'm going off topic, i'm sort of working backwards > > belle and sebastian > nick drake > bert jansch > > which is what i would like, so if anyone has a superior collection of > bert jansch's recordings and would be willing to do a tape, i'd really > appreciate it > > mail me with your address and i'll get a tape sent of to you > > david kitchen > > -- > ******************************************************************** > Belle and Sebastian Fan Club > merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction > http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ > mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk > ******************************************************************** > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 18:58:03 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 13:58:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: ooh! sex appeal! Message-ID: <199801121858.NAA23879@Vector.inexpress.net> > >sinister-digest Sunday, January 11 1998 Volume 02 : Number 012 > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 11:41:25 -0500 >From: "Aadam (the extra 'A' is for archives)" >Subject: Sinister: Re:(NBSC) Other bands that get you off musically... > >empyreal wrote: >> >> So... I would really love to know which other bands get you *sinister* >> people off...musically, that is. > >Surely a more interesting question would be, "what _non-pop_ music >floats your boat?" Okay! Floating boat music....for me... Jack, *siiiiiiiiiiigh* The Longpigs,Al Green,Massive Attack,Jamiroquai (not the jazzy stuff! The honey darling baby sugar sugar pie pumpkin puddin' cup stuff!) and the song they have to play at my prom next year: Wearing Off by Geneva..then it would be PERFECT! No..it would be even more perfect with Stuart David as prom date,now HE is a 'puddin' cup'! here i come baby, i'm coming to getcha! xoxo Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 19:21:44 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:21:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: all lil bits of things Message-ID: <199801121921.OAA24080@Vector.inexpress.net> >if you would now like to argue that there is no difference between doing a >tape for someone and recording Tigermilk onto CD, then go ahead. >i have no difficulty in finding the strength to defend the bands future >revenue as i feel they above anyone else here deserve and have earned it. > >david kitchen > >"yes i know what i've now started" I know,they deserve it!Poor little guys... Sometimes (since they're aren't many similar fans) I feel I'm providing for the bands...I better buy a Shed Seven cd soon...so Rick Witter will be able to eat! (but he' will probably just buy another pack of cigarettes...I don't think he eats anyways...waif-boy) I am helping Jack..I bought their cd AND vinyl! but I just don't have enough money to buy all the cds that I want,so me and my friends make copies..and also,beautiful beautiful singles are expensive here cause all the ones I want are always import... What about if you buy a cd from a second hand store...I bought IYFS and the 3 eps (which were all new) from Spinables (the gorgeous clerks! THey tempt you!) I guess that didn't give B&S anything....maybe Stuart bought some socks..... >> >>Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 21:07:45 +0000 (GMT) >> >>From: Stuart Gardiner >> >>Subject: Sinister: All sorts really... >> >>Stuart G >> >>The tallest man in the world, apparently... don't feel bad,my friends call me the tinyest person! >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 11:12:47 +0000 (GMT) >From: "A.M. Horne" >Subject: Re: Sinister: pop quiz >> >1. Complete the sequence... >> > 8, 3, 7, ? (4) >> >2. Complete the sequence... >> > 43, N/A, ?, 22, 38 (5) >> >3. Si tu etais un ange... Comes from which current single? And what >> >does >> >it mean? (2) >> >4. What was the UK's best-selling single of 97, >> candle in the wind >> and what was Europe's? >> ummm,that robert guy? > >miles??? Yes..that's the one! >> manics,super furry animals,gorkys zygotic mynci,catatonia,60 ft dolls > >don't think gorky's actually made the top 40... whoops! just used all the welsh bands I know, they surprise you! I didn'tknow the stereophonics were welsh.....I thought they were like those other stereo guys... >> >17. "I stole his shoes and ran away trying jolly hard to see if we >> >could >> >catch him round the bend" : Again - artist and track please. (2) >> >> Menswear 'I'll Manage Somehow' Someone else got the answer to this one too,I thought I was the only one,now my trivial menswear facts are useless....now there's a band that went to the nowhere land....Menswear they are added to:The Bluetones,Babylon Zoo and Spacehog... they used to be so big,then they streaked their hair,and it all came crashing down! >so do i: between us we'll sort it out... > >alastair hmmmm,I don't know,none of my answers seem to be right,(except for the menswear and Travis one) oh dear! love love, Genevieve ;) me and you against the world now.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.walker15 at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 19:05:20 1998 From: david.walker15 at xxx.net (David Walker) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:05:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: other sounds(no B&S) References: <58e2ae1.34b94fa1@aol.com> Message-ID: <34BA6970.159B@virgin.net> Hello, As we are on the subject...... I have been listening to a bit of Northern Soul !! Well, to be honest, I know very little about it, so I went out and bought the "Wigan Casino Story" Volumes 1 and 2. Both are excellent. Maybe I should buy more. But buy what ? I don`t fancy going to seedy holiday camps and paying 100 quid for a single (or spinning on my back either to be honest !). Anyone have any great insights into the murky world of Northern Soul ? Cheers, Tintin. -- David Walker The Walker Homepage And Guide To Bolton: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/ Got A Paul Weller link ? Need A Paul Weller link ? Check.... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/links.html (Unfinished version now up and running) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ebm at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 20:07:42 1998 From: ebm at xxx.uk (Ewan Barr McDowall) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:07:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister ----------- Ewan McDowall e-mail: ebm at st-andrews.ac.uk or ewan at cheerful.com homepage: http://members.tripod.com/~ewanm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mike_Christie at xxx.com Mon Jan 12 21:08:37 1998 From: Mike_Christie at xxx.com (Mike Christie) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:08:37 +1100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <11985DDD85FAD011AEAC006097CEF6933FAAEA@WALLABY> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 22:46:57 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Northy) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:46:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: reply - arghh Message-ID: <199801122134.VAA20967@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> sorry - I sent someone a reply that was meant to go to the list and not to them (it was the person who told me ehm....where to go) can you forward it back to me or to the list please ta ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 21:58:55 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:58:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: <34B9E5D0.FC1ACFC4@totalweb.co.uk> <34BA58A8.E74@virgin.net> Message-ID: <34BA921F.C7191620@totalweb.co.uk> Sandy Blair wrote: > >if you would now like to argue that there is no difference between doing a > >tape for someone and recording Tigermilk onto CD, then go ahead. > >i have no difficulty in finding the strength to defend the bands future > >revenue as i feel they above anyone else here deserve and have earned it. > > So you have no difficulty stealing from Bert Jansch? What did he ever do to > you? Why doe Bert, Mr Jansch and all the little Jansches not deserve food > on their table? i don't intend just to live of a tape of jansch or anyone else. i do intend to order a shiny cd when i know that i do like him and have a rough idea of which one to buy. although shops like virgin our price have flexible returns policies they rarely have a good enough stock to be able to find new things and experiment musical preferences with. i know from working in an our price that i would have to order a jansch cd especially, special orders are exempt from their returns policy and as such there is no way i could experiment cheaply. -- s.willis wrote: > Hello all! > > Here we go > > > > >which is what i would like, so if anyone has a superior collection of > > > >bert jansch's recordings and would be willing to do a tape, i'd really > > > >appreciate it > > > > > > > >mail me with your address and i'll get a tape sent of to you > > > > > > > >david kitchen > > > > > > I hope that you get copyright clearence first... > > > > ah, wit in it's highest form. > > > I think that it was probably meant as a joke and not to be taken too > seriously. probably, but side swipes get me down, and eventually i feel i should defend myself and attemp to make it clear why it is an important issue (bootlegging that is). > > > > you must be referring to the autumn spat about the recording of tigermilk > > onto CD? > > if so then i think you'd also agree that these things are in different > > leagues. > > > > i agree and support home taping to help distribute music in a non-profit > > (swap) way. > > but i do not agree with the production of CD's, as these nearly always > > require a payment to be made, and it is from these that bootleggers are > > given the opportunity to produce mass quantitty bootlegs. > > > > belle and sebastian may be wavering over the re-issue of tigermilk but they > > have stated publicly that this is something they plan, more a question of > > when. > > as such bootlegging would be a serious threat to it's imminent success and > > would threaten to reduce the revenue that the band would receive. > > > > if you think that bootlegging is just a myth and doesn't affect the > > industry then maybe you should also read Saturdays Guardian. > > some of the facts held within that included: > > 70% of music available in the former USSR is bootlegged > > 22% of the italian music industry is bootlegged > > only £1.61 from a £13.99 CD ends up with the artist > > globally 1in 3 CD's sold is manufactured illegally > > > > if you would now like to argue that there is no difference between doing a > > tape for someone and recording Tigermilk onto CD, then go ahead. > > i have no difficulty in finding the strength to defend the bands future > > revenue as i feel they above anyone else here deserve and have earned it. > > Um, ok. (says the following as he fastens helmet and backs into a > trench) if "doing a tape for someone" can include recording Tigermilk > onto a tape (you didn't specify), why is that then different to > recording Tigermilk onto a CD? If it is only going to one person anyway, > why does it mattter what format it happens to be on? If, say, I had the > equipment to record onto a CD would you be opposed to me copying > Tigermilk onto it for a mate so that s/he could listen to it? > > Love and hugs > > Tom the difference between a tape and cd recording is one of quality, but not a perceivable difference unless you're incredibly fussy. a tape is poorer quality and as such would not be used to produce bootlegs from, cd's on the other hand are accepted as a standard for a master recording and can be used in mass-duplication facilities to produce large runs of bootleg cd's. i really do not feel that a cd recording is of immediate threat to the band's future revenue, but it must be realised that should a mass production of Tigermilk on cd ever originate illegally, it would probably have been done by someone that we (as the list) know. simply because it is us (the fans, friends, record company, etc) that own the original vinyl Tigermilk, so it is most likely that the cd used would have originated from one of us (as it is unlikely that a cd produced from a tape would be accepted by any but the most worthless bootleggers). this is one of the most horrible realisations on this subject, and it is this i would love to prevent. we can serve ourselves and protect the band we love simply by restricting our own copies to tape format and not a digital (master) format. david kitchen (still trying to be lucid enough to make sense) @ the fanclub (and still not speaking on behalf of it or anyone else) -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Mon Jan 12 22:08:37 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:08:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: ooh! sex appeal! In-Reply-To: <199801121858.NAA23879@Vector.inexpress.net> Message-ID: ok genevieve, i've gotta deal for you: you take stu david to the prom, i'll bring stuart evans, then you can have geneva *live* at the prom!! love, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 22:19:01 1998 From: geoff.burgerman4 at xxx.net (.j 0n) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:19:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: photo jonny Message-ID: <199801122219.WAA14328@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> anyone wants pics from the manc. sat gig.. ? .j 0n ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.walker15 at xxx.net Mon Jan 12 22:07:58 1998 From: david.walker15 at xxx.net (David Walker) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:07:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: <34B9E5D0.FC1ACFC4@totalweb.co.uk> <34BA58A8.E74@virgin.net> <34BA921F.C7191620@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BA943E.70CC@virgin.net> Hey !!! You wrote..... "i know from working in an our price that i would have to order a jansch cd especially, special orders are exempt from their returns policy and as such there is no way i could experiment cheaply." I manage a Virgin store and we always carry at least a collection of Bert Jansch in stock. I used work the Our Price stores, and yes, I agree, unlikely to have one in. As for flexibility of returns, yes I agree, all stores in the chain should at the very least exchange things you don`t like. So why not give it a go ???? Cheers, Tintin. -- David Walker The Walker Homepage And Guide To Bolton: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/ Got A Paul Weller link ? Need A Paul Weller link ? Check.... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/links.html (Unfinished version now up and running) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 22:37:43 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:37:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: photo jonny In-Reply-To: <199801122219.WAA14328@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, .j 0n wrote: > anyone wants pics from > the manc. sat gig.. ? I dont mind if its free ....sorry for being a cheapskate. Cheers DL > > .j 0n > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Mon Jan 12 22:56:03 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:56:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Are we in the presence of something really special? I think so. Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF03081A29@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Northy wrote: Isn't it weird - you want as many of your friends to hear B&S as possible but wouldn't you hate it if everyone liked them and you were just another fan.........I think this.......I don't want to be just another faceless fan. We are priveleged. Let us enjoy our position while we can Laurie Lemans wrote: Fuck that and fuck you.... I hope our beloved monsters of rock, lords of sleaze and kings of debauchery become rich and famous, it's their Ffate and yours is to whine and tell everyone how you knew them first. ANYWAY as much as I hate the "I'm a bigger fan and was there first" indie snobbery to which Laurie refers, and as much as I wish our beloved B&S all the success they undoubtedly deserve, I have to go with Northy here... how tragic it would be should a fate befall them similar to that of the Song 2 phenomena!!!!!! Eek imagine that, Gwen Stefani wannabes with their Live 105/KROQ t-shirts showing up at gigs to mosh their way through "Century of Fakers"... Hmm it's one of the better things about living in America, having all these brilliant British bands all to "yourself", you know?:-) tata sweetie darlings tarabelle ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 00:11:19 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Northy) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:11:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: new chat site Message-ID: <199801122258.WAA32013@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> well OK it is a Radiohead chat site but it needs to be belle and sebastianized let us arrange a time and meet there to overun all my RH buddies with B&S fans! if you want in then say a time the address is http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/8023/chat.htm (jealous 'cause B&S chat don't work on my machine!) someone suggest a time just a thought................ "start to talk shit..............." ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Mon Jan 12 22:56:29 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:56:29 EST Subject: Sinister: Conversion: I have seen the light Message-ID: I have been attempting to convert a friend. I put "Seeing Other People" and "Get Me Away..." on a mix tape for her about six months ago. She was not too impressed; she thought the piano intro on "Seeing..." sounded too much like Peanuts music. I told her yes that is why I like it. To continue the process I listen to Belle and Sebastian whenever we are in the car together. She usually makes no remark at all. In a tiny breakthrough, she thought that "Me and the Major" was a good song. She did not fall in love with the rest of the songs still. In the car a few weeks ago she thought "Tigermilk" album sounded better than "If You're Feeling Sinister" on a whole. She said she wished, sincerely or not, that all the songs sounded like "Electronic Renaissance." Today we listened to "Dog On Wheels" in the car, but once again, she did not seem impressed. I think I will start to have to accept this situation. I was also thinking of sending a tape of Belle and Sebastian songs to my brother. When he was my age, 19, he listened to the Go-Betweens, the Smiths, and assorted bands. But he lost interest and became a minister. Though he has a sense of humour, I'm not too sure how he would take the religion in the songs. He would probably just humour his little brother and tell me he liked it. But his eight month old son, is it never too early? Living and loving and rambling Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oasis at xxx.au Mon Jan 12 22:58:06 1998 From: oasis at xxx.au (Pete) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:58:06 +1100 Subject: Sinister: other sounds(no B&S) In-Reply-To: <34BA6970.159B@virgin.net> References: <58e2ae1.34b94fa1@aol.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980113095806.00815670@magna.com.au> At 07:05 PM 12/1/98 +0000, you wrote: >Hello, >As we are on the subject...... >I have been listening to a bit of Northern Soul !! Well, to be honest, I >know very little about it, so I went out and bought the "Wigan Casino >Story" Volumes 1 and 2. Both are excellent. > >Maybe I should buy more. But buy what ? I don`t fancy going to seedy >holiday camps and paying 100 quid for a single (or spinning on my back >either to be honest !). Anyone have any great insights into the murky >world of Northern Soul ? A murky dredged darkly majestic like world it is. From what I have read the band where in the throes of breaking up whlst recording A Northern Soul. They ended up splitting for a while Lo and behold the title track which is one of the most mind pummeling songs you're ever likely to hear is about Noel Gallagher when he left Oasis for a brief period. Anyhow enough of that as I have learnt that Oasis is a five letter swear word in many parts. The brilliance of this recording to me is down to Nick McCabe's gorgeous darkly textured guitar and the general soundscapes brought upon by the production, which I think owes a lot to him, and less to the much lauded songwriter sex symbol (mad) Richard Ashcroft. Emotions I think of are oceans, flying, darkness, isolation and in some way sheer survival. Oh god this sounds like and undergraduate record review So completely unlike Belle and Sebastian (do B&S balls only exist in Australia by the way? B & S being Bachelor and Spinster, they occur in the country and are an excuse for over drinking and other canoodlings nudge nudge). Anyhow I digress. A Northern Soul is their best album, and a great title, for all it's majesty, it is northern soul. I didn't really say anything much hear I guess, but I do recomend you all getting it, and then follow that up with a Dirty Three CD, and I will take to your with warmness. Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pobrien100 at xxx.com Mon Jan 12 23:52:57 1998 From: pobrien100 at xxx.com (Patrick O'Brien) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 23:52:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Artist royalties and begging request for tigermilk tape. Message-ID: <089754852230c18UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> On the subject of artists royalties. Taping a CD for a friend is not an attempt to make a profit at the artists expense. Those who love the tape and can afford to will buy the CD anyway if they can. Pirate CD's of currently available (or soon to be available - Tigermilk we pray) material is taking money out of the pocket of the artist. Pirate CD's / Tapes of live gigs ? I'm not sure whether it's fair or not. If any band members read this, how do you feel on this one? Which leads me on nicely to a desperate request, one which I suspect gets asked rather a lot. Could anyone please tape me a copy of Tigermilk if I send them a blank tape? I know it's a bit cheeky, but I promise to buy if if it ever becomes available on CD. Can't offer much back in return b&s way, as all I have is the stuff everyone's got, but I would be really very grateful. pobrien100 at msn.com Thank you in advance to some generous kind hearted soul out there. Patrick O'Brien p.s. does anyone out there like Momus ? I think that he's a noticable influence in quite a few b&s songs. He's released tons of stuff over the years, some a bit iffy, but some is sublime. He's got a great web site at http://www.demon.co.uk/momus/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Mon Jan 12 23:46:38 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 18:46:38 EST Subject: Sinister: names Message-ID: <783cad62.34baab60@aol.com> In a message dated 1/12/98 2:03:24PM, bramly at globalnet.co.uk writes: << sinister at majordomo.net >> What a beautiful idea. Do something pretty while you can, et cetera. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 00:00:49 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 19:00:49 EST Subject: Sinister: Touch me I'm sick Message-ID: I quit smoking eight days ago and I've just tried a cig. Ewwww!!! "You got my Bodyshakin'!" as 911 might say, would they were here. Re: The quiz - Lauren Laverne 'dates' Taylor Parkes from MM, not Pricey. And Gorky's have never had a Top 40 hit. It's 60ft Dolls, Manics, Catatonia, Stereophonics, Supa Furries. And if anyone can solve question 14 they deserve a medal. Um... despite being a lurker on this list for a very long time, and intending to introduce myself tonight, I now feel VERY sick. Cigarettes are neither big nor clever, are they? Oh, and why the Rialto hoo-ha? DO explain. The singer in Idlewild is a B&S fan, btw, if he counts as a 'celeb'. Bed beckons... Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 06:15:23 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 98 22:15:23 PST Subject: Sinister: bootlegging In-Reply-To: <34BA921F.C7191620@totalweb.co.uk> References: Conversation with last message <34BA921F.C7191620@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: i couldn't help but reply to this one as it was i who started all the bootlegging ruckus back last autumn because i wrote to the list wanting a copy on cd. i got a nasty letter from someone, i can't remember now if it was jeepster or who, but it was an official nasty letter. here's where i had the problem. my job is as a delivery man for an office supply company. i can't very well listen to records in the van. the van also has no tape player. therefore, i wanted a cd copy. i wanted one cd copy. just one. and i'm not ashamed to admit that i don't like tapes anyway. i've lived for so long with cds that they are all i need. sure, i listen to my tigermilk tape more so than i thought i would, but i can't very well listen to it if i'm somewhere without a tape player, which are becoming increasingly rare to find (at least here in the states). so, in my opinion, a cd dub and a tape dub are one and the same. someone could just as easily bootleg a whole mess of tigermilk tapes and sell em for three or four bucks cheaper than a cd copy. besides copyright laws, if you want to get into all that, prohibit copying of any kind. stop and read that little message next time you rent a videocassette. and even the girl scouts now have to pay some sort of royalty to sing certain songs around a campfire because singing them in public as a group went against certain copyright laws. so taping, even though i'm all for it, is just as detremental to the income of a band as dubbing on a cd is. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 00:51:09 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:51:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Whatever crossed my mind really... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Honey wrote: > Bethey I think this is a truly brilliant idea. I have been wanting > to ditch my middle name for ages. Someone in the UK who's done it > tell us how much and how. So does the 'dot' in your email address stand for 'Dorothy'? As for this bootlegging thing - I've got a friend who's offered to record my tape of Tigermilk onto CD for me. The thing is, it's not a brilliant quality tape as it is, so I'd still buy it if it was ever released on CD; the only difference to having it on tape is that you can pick out the tracks you want at that time etc. Then I could have The State I Am In, Expectations, She's Losing It and Mary Jo on repeat permanently for weeks on end... The reason there is so much fuss about Rialto is that they're brilliant. Their last two singles are everything we were hoping for from the new Pulp material, but never got. We need something to listen to whilst we're waiting for the Modern Rock Song EP to be released. Much as I have enjoyed reading everyone debating how tall I am, I ought to put you out of your misery and say that I am 6ft 6. Which is about twice as tall as Julia. So I'm probably the one who was standing in front of you in Manchester blocking your view... Oh, and if the band really do read this list occasionally, can I get down on my knees and beg you to play a gig(s?) at the Royal Albert Hall? That would be the most incredible experience ever... Stuart G (aka The Tall Git) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 01:00:36 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 01:00:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: other sounds(no B&S) Message-ID: <199801130058.AAA12111@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> WARNING: NO B&S CONTENT >>Hello, >>As we are on the subject...... >>I have been listening to a bit of Northern Soul !! Well, to be honest, I >>know very little about it, so I went out and bought the "Wigan Casino >>Story" Volumes 1 and 2. Both are excellent. >A murky dredged darkly majestic like world it is. From what I have read >the band where in the throes of breaking up whlst recording A Northern >Soul. ?????????? erm, he means Northern Soul as in Mod revivalists spinning on their heads in '70s dancehalls to the sounds of Soul rarities. These tended to be tunes ranging from the Early '60s to the late '70s which in the main were not hit records. Some singles are equally as good as the all time Motown greats but relatively unknown. They can be one-off tunes or the lesser known tracks of the hitmakers (Ike & Tina Turner for example). >Maybe I should buy more. But buy what ? I don`t fancy going to seedy >holiday camps and paying 100 quid for a single (or spinning on my back >either to be honest !). Anyone have any great insights into the murky >world of Northern Soul ? buying Northern Soul records, like most other genres, involves wading through loads of crap. There are loads of vinyl or CD compilations on loads of labels, the best being the likes of Kent or Goldmine/Soul Supply. Having only around 20 or so Northern Soul comp LPs/CDs means I'm only a small fan, and I prefer Sixties Soul. I'd recommend you look out for anything by Mary Love, Jackie Day or Vernon Garrett. The earlier Kent compilations ("For Dancers Only" and the like) are a good bet and there are good budget CDs about. Look out for a CD called '18 Northern Soul Floorshakers' which you might even be able to pick up in those nasty 2.99 racks in your local Newsagent/petrol station! Don't buy anything else from that rack though, and avoid anything which says 'some tracks may be re-recorded etc.' Spinning on my head, The Laird of East Fountainbridge. P.S. "the only good Tories are Lavatories" and "Red Tag" had me cracked up during this otherwise boring evening. "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 02:27:48 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 21:27:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: lil' pookie bear Message-ID: <199801130227.VAA28333@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear loverly Sinister personnes, I have just found out something I'm sure you all knew! *sob sob sob* And on top of that,it is back to school tomorrow,after a nice long break,and then school was cancelled for a week...and now...Madame Boisclair...she will be waiting for me......and my feet are cold... >On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Bramleys wrote: > >> Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all >the boys to Sebastian. Genevieve Belle David...it could've been...but is no longer..... >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 17:08:37 -0500 (EST) >From: Laurel Girvan >Subject: Re: Sinister: ooh! sex appeal! > >ok genevieve, i've gotta deal for you: you take stu david to the prom, >i'll bring stuart evans, then you can have geneva *live* at the prom!! > >love, >laurel but...he's.....married.................. nooooooo nonnnnnnnn noooo,he's such a little pookie bear. it is a fantastique idea though...I think I should just pile the limo full of prom dates (it IS at the Chateau Laurier,classy classy..) So Stuart David is still my prom date..but Anthony Reynolds,Brett Anderson,Neil Codling,Simon Stafford,Colin Greenwood and Neil Hannon get to sit there and look pretty, along with saucy stuart evans and the lovely laurel. >Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 22:19:01 +0000 >From: ".j 0n" >Subject: Sinister: photo jonny > >anyone wants pics from >the manc. sat gig.. ? > >.j 0n YES! >The brilliance of this recording to me is down to Nick McCabe's gorgeous >darkly textured guitar and the general soundscapes brought upon by the >production, which I think owes a lot to him, and less to the much lauded >songwriter sex symbol (mad) Richard Ashcroft. Emotions I think of are >oceans, flying, darkness, isolation and in some way sheer survival. Oh god >this sounds like and undergraduate record review Oh but it is a beautiful album...On Your Own..specially the 'all I want is someone who can fill the hole of the life i know' bit and 'Drive You Home', in fact I listened to Drive You Home before I went to sleep last night....have to have a song to sleep to..the Longpigs secret song is like a lullably... Some on here mentioned Momus...? I've been trying to get the Jaques/Momus 'How To Make Love' cd...Jaques is the alter ego of Jack.....and Jack are lovely.... kisses 'n hugs Geneviev ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 05:16:33 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:16:33 EST Subject: Sinister: Conversion: Message-ID: Sunday morning routine at the CD store, listening to music and drinking coffee, dancing around to great swing-y music by Cherry Poppin' Daddies. Helping to pick out music for a customer to listen to when he comes in later: which B&S ep? I pick 3..6..9 Seconds of Light, Doug picks Dog on Wheels. A kid comes up with a vinyl LLPJ to complete his collection. Says how sad he was to miss the NY shows, but he hadn't discovered the band until just after them. Give him the list address. Returning before the store closes, the anticipated customer is settled in, listening to CDs he might like. 3..6..9.. wins -- and so does Dog on Wheels. "Music you can cry to," he says, adding them to his pile of purchases. Convert the World!! There's plenty of room... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Tue Jan 13 05:21:31 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 00:21:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Whatever crossed my mind really... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: stuart, i was only at mancs in spirit, but i must say, your shoulder offered the best view!! laurel xxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paulf at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 08:04:57 1998 From: paulf at xxx.uk (Paul Forsyth) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:04:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: things Message-ID: > Much as I have enjoyed reading everyone debating how tall I am, I ought > to > put you out of your misery and say that I am 6ft 6. Which is about twice > as tall as Julia. So I'm probably the one who was standing in front of > you > in Manchester blocking your view... I can vouch for this statement. I've scanned in some pics from the Manchester gigs and one or two do confirm what Stuart says!!! > Oh, and if the band really do read this list occasionally, can I get > down > on my knees and beg you to play a gig(s?) at the Royal Albert Hall? That > would be the most incredible experience ever... Another vote from me for this, it would be amazing! bye Paul ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From s4132173 at xxx.jp Tue Jan 13 08:12:53 1998 From: s4132173 at xxx.jp (Yutaka KANDORI) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:12:53 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199801130812.IAA12894@thales.ic.daito.ac.jp> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 08:53:16 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:53:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: a century of elves In-Reply-To: <199801121649.QAA25694@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801121649.QAA25694@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34bc2aa9.117482@email.mcmail.com> Hello you lot, On Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:04:23 +0000 Olafia Svansdottir wrote: > At long last Belle & Sebastian have arrived to Iceland, So all of you >Icelandic fans can stop worrying (all two of us:me and my boyfriend).We >heard them on a radioshow this weekend and one of their album(yes only >one copy) i saw in a store ( i made my friend buy the other one!). On >this radioshow they played Seymour Stein, Sleep around the clock and >slow graffiti.... >Something all of you have probably heard thousand times, but it was the >first time for us. >And you know what? The dj even mentioned you guys-he said that people >on the internet were talking about how they cried their eyes out every >time they listened to B&S, which is kind of true-right? There was a spy >among us!!! Fame fame, fatal fame >This has helped us pass the time while we're waiting for >our 8-369seconds,8-dog on wheels >order from David which should arrive anyminuite now(was that the doorbell?) > (a little story- not a very interesting one,but what the hell) We >first heard B&S on alternative nation this summer, and when we went to >London we ( i'm using this" we" an awfull lot aint i)bought IYFS and >LLPJ- that evening we(here i go again) came tired to our b&b only to >read in london time out magazine that B&S were having a > consert that same night in the Union chapel- which we had absolutly no >idea where was and saw no chance of getting there, then for the sake >of comfort we decided that it was sold out. We spent that night in Sega world. Yes, yes!!! They're all here! Just Danes left. Olafia, you too come from the coolest place in the world. Does anyone know about that new Icelandic film...the one that isn't 'Cold Fever'? That was great - it had a Citroen DS in it and everyone knows that is the coolest car in the world. Love you all to pieces Tagnus Tagnusson xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 09:51:35 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:51:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Not much B&S content...naturally. Message-ID: <01BD2008.D6929600@pc7628> Tall-bloke wrote. >Other matters - B&S at the Albert Hall. Apparently it holds 3000, so in a >few months tims they could sell it out. As for being stuck in a seat >between two people you can't have a decent conversation with, firstly I >think you can stand downstairs, and also it wiould probably be possible to >sell unreserved tickets in each area of the hall, so you could sit next to >who you liked. This is always a problem at seated gigs; how was it done at >the Union Chapel? How about if the group saved all their respective pocket/dole/student grant monies and sent Stuart out busking every day between now and January 1st 2000. By then they should have raised a grand total of £67.48 pence Sterling. Then on the 2nd January 2000 when the Govt. have finally admitted they have no use for the Millenium Dome, we can all chip in and buy it for the knock down price of 100 quid. I've got 16 pence and a second class stamp. Then we can all get together watch B&S and have a big party. Sod the Albert Hall...it's all a bit poncey, and you can't trash the place afterwards. >And Keith, I'm not THAT tall... 16 foot 4 inches...I can't get over that..literally. Don't you find you step on little kids without noticing ? -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 10:06:14 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:06:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Name Games Message-ID: <01BD200A.E25190C0@pc7628> Bethey wrote : >OK, here's a proposition. >Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all the = >boys to Sebastian. They'll be this sudden rush at the solicitor's = >offices around the world, and eventually this massive phemomenon will = >reach headline news. There'll be loads of questions: How was it = >organised? Why? And then when our epitaphs are written, people will = >say "Ah, the famous 98 B&S Sinister-listee outbreak. I took a degree in = >it. Interesting stuff." and it'll be like plague victims but much = >nicer. >Wouldn't that be fun? Yes, but all of those whose first names are Isobel or Sebastian would look like twats ! -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 10:02:50 1998 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:02:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Quiz Message-ID: <26C1871A47@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Hiya, Eh maybe you all know this and I'm being silly but I think that a brimfull of Asha is on "the 45" ... and I think its from the Cornershop single... Like I said sorry if you knew this one... Afrter going back home for the holidays more and more people seem to be talking about B&S .... and this is in Orkney folks which is practically the north pole. Also they didn't seem to be Belle and Sebastian people if you know what I mean. Actually, what is a Belle and Sebastian person.Any thoughts... Sort of what the stereotypical B&S fan is and what the reality is kind of thing... cheeri-bye ------------------------------------------------- " if you're chasing the morning, if you're sleeping all day..." ------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 10:02:21 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:02:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song Release date? Message-ID: <01bd200a$56bb01e0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >There is no official release dat yet, but hopefully once the band have >finished in the studio (first week of feb.) then they'll put together >the tracks for the EP and 3rd LP, and decide on some release dates. > >it's trying to be patient ... > >cheers, >Katrina. Strange, my friend Christine who works in Avalanche in Ediburgh told me last week they had a promo of Modern Rock Song delivered last week! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 10:42:56 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:42:56 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199801131037.KAA15427@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> >Re: The quiz - Lauren Laverne 'dates' Taylor Parkes from MM, not Pricey. And >Gorky's have never had a Top 40 hit. It's 60ft Dolls, Manics, Catatonia, >Stereophonics, Supa Furries. And if anyone can solve question 14 they deserve >a medal. Gorky's Diamond Dew was in the top 40, wasn't it? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 10:39:01 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:39:01 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Yawn Message-ID: Could all the people who are trying to leave/change their membership of the list PLEEEEEEASE read the WWW page for instructions. It's dead easy. You don't mail this address, you mail "majordomo at majordomo.net". Please. Really. I just haven't got time to pick up failed subscriptions. Also - for Andrew Dean I've added compressed (.zip and .gz) weekly archives of the mailing list on the WWW - see the site (in the footer). Erm - and no-one's told me how to change my name yet. Deed poll? What's a statutory declaration? There must be some UK lawyers on the list. See, I'm not doing it for the band (they're crap), it's just a perfect opportunity to rid myself of a bad middle name but keep my initials. And I always fancied someone calling me Seb. HoneySeb xxx -- "Smithers, release the hounds" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Tue Jan 13 10:40:36 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:40:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song Release date? References: <01bd200a$56bb01e0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BB44A4.605F@virgin.net> Keith Watson wrote: > Strange, my friend Christine who works in Avalanche in Ediburgh told me last > week they had a promo of Modern Rock Song delivered last week! > > Keith. (Keith, i love you to bits, but i just had to post this ... sorry ...) I just phoned Avalanche, and all they have is a very badly recorded tape version of "Modern Rock Song", which they probably got off a band member or something ... they also tried to tell me that is was being released on March 2nd, which is NOT TRUE, so if any one says the same, it's wrong, and once there is a date for the EP set, i'll tell you all as soon as i know. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Tue Jan 13 10:48:24 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:48:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: a century of elves Message-ID: >> That was great - it had a Citroen DS in it and everyone knows that is the > >>coolest car in the world. Is that the car that has the lights that can see round the corners? Indeed the coolest car in the world! While i'm at it, i need help. You know how "modern rock song" goes "we're four boys..etc" then goes on to name Stevie, Richie and one of the Stuarts? Do the rest of them feel rejected? I trust this will be rectified on the released version. You know how there is a formula to work out Easter (take the first Sunday after the full moon after the March equinox or something, and there's a maths formula as well), so Easter lies on a different day every year? How come Easter Day can change, but Christmas Day is always December 25th? Does God say so? Bit inconsistent. Do i go to hell now? Hey, Can I play with madness? I went to see Starship Troopers last night. I distinctly saw the protaganist Ricco being killed, but the next thing you know he's alive again. How did he do that? Are we supposed to believe the bloke out of Robocop rescued him? Cheery, Chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From djf9 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 10:54:38 1998 From: djf9 at xxx.uk (D.J. Frazer) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:54:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re:Pop Quiz Message-ID: <24750.199801131054@harrier.le.ac.uk> The question about the only duo with two mid-priced LPs in 97 - the only duos I can think of are Wham, Simon & Garfunkel, Tears for Fears, Foster & Allen (only joking), Sam & Dave, The Eurythmics, Bros(joking again). Any of these suggestion correct I wonder? Hope this helps in the quest, Daniel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 11:12:25 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:12:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: bootlegs Message-ID: <199801131108.LAA21511@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > David wrote: > > > > > belle and sebastian may be wavering over the re-issue of tigermilk > but they > > > > have stated publicly that this is something they plan, more a > question of > > > > when. > > > > as such bootlegging would be a serious threat to it's imminent > success and > > > > would threaten to reduce the revenue that the band would receive. > > I am all for the band making as much money from their efforts as > possible, and think that any bootleg which significantly damaged > their > earnings off Tigermilk would be a Very Bad Thing. > But hey, let's be realistic. The reason I hear for the > non-appearance of a reissue is that there is not enough time to > release it > properly. I assume this means that with the current recording and > forthcoming promotion for the new records, the band will not have > time to > promote it 'properly'. > It seems to me that to me that the reissue of Tigermilk is on hold > for commercial reasons, then: it is being delayed so that > (i) the reissue can be promoted in such a way as to maximise sales, > which is a good thing, but also > (ii) to increase the 'great lost album' myth, and to generate an > ever more hysterical demand for it. > > Whilst this is fine, and probably very good business, people who try > to manipulate the tiger of the supply-demand consumer economy should > not be > surprised when the damn thing turns round and bites them. > There are people in this world who make their living from > bootlegging records. My guess is that none of them read this list, > but I may > be wrong. As the fame of Tigermilk spreads, and the price it fetches > rises, > it becomes more likely that it will be systematically bootlegged. > > >the difference between a tape and cd recording is one of quality, > >but not a > >perceivable difference unless you're incredibly fussy. a tape is > >poorer quality > >and as such would not be used to produce bootlegs from, cd's on the > >other hand > >are accepted as a standard for a master recording and can be used > >in > >mass-duplication facilities to produce large runs of bootleg cd's. > >... it must be realised that should a mass production of > >Tigermilk on cd ever originate illegally, it would probably have > >been done by > >someone that we (as the list) know. simply because it is us (the > >fans, friends, > >record company, etc) that own the original vinyl Tigermilk, so it > >is most likely > >that the cd used would have originated from one of us (as it is > >unlikely that a > >cd produced from a tape would be accepted by any but the most > >worthless > >bootleggers). this is one of the most horrible realisations on this > >subject, and > >it is this i would love to prevent. > > Except that the survey a few months ago tracked down just 10% of > total Tigermilkage world-wide. The profits involved in selling, say > 1000 > bootlegs would mean that a copy of the LP on the collectors market > (lets say > ?300 for the sake of argument) would represent a good financial > investment > on the part of our prospective Belle bandit. > I wouldn't worry too much about our friends in this case...though I > might be wrong. > > > we can serve ourselves and protect the band > >we love simply by restricting our own copies to tape format and not > >a digital > >(master) format. > > It's just as likely that the bootlegger would use a vinyl copy, > surely? Giving access to the cover and the credits etc... > I hope all you minidisk users are hanging your heads, with your > master formats.:-) > I'm still in tape-based servitude. > > I am not trying to defend bootlegging of the LP. Neither do I > disagree that Tigermilk owners should exercise some discretion. I > just think > that, if there are worries about bootlegs damaging earnings, they > come as a > direct result of the decision not to reissue earlier. A decision > which has > left a lot of fans (myself included) desperate for a copy of > Tigermilk which > will be a little more permanent than tape. > > Just a thought. > > Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From djf9 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 11:10:57 1998 From: djf9 at xxx.uk (D.J. Frazer) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:10:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Northern Soul Message-ID: <26807.199801131110@harrier.le.ac.uk> Ive just read a message from someone saying they would like to know more about Northern Soul and a reply all about The Verve!?-Didn't think the two were relate d apart from an LP title. Um...I don't know much about Northern Soul but I do have a double CD called 'Soul Survivors - 40 Northern Soul Anthems' which is absolutely brilliant and is packed with classics like Wade in the Water by Marlena Shaw, Sweet Soul Music by Arthur Conley and Go Go Power by Sugar Pie de Santo. It is in a yellow case and is linked to the Soul Survivors book which came out in '97. I think its on Telstar. Ive not really taken my appreciation of Northern Soul beyond this but I have seen a website with tempting looking rarity compilations for sale-I think the company was called Soul-a-go-go records. Hope this is of some help, Daniel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 11:27:22 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:27:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: other sounds(no B&S) Message-ID: <199801131121.LAA21646@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > -----Original Message----- > From: plaird [SMTP:plaird at xxx.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 1:01 AM > To: sweet sinister souls > Subject: Re: Sinister: other sounds(no B&S) > > WARNING: NO B&S CONTENT > Plaird wrote: > > Northern Soul as in Mod revivalists spinning on their > >head > > Are you sure they were mod revivalists? there was me thinking they were > soul boys:-) > They may have (partly) grown out of the mod scene but the soul boys were > in no sense mod revivalists (in my view). > > > Some singles are equally as good as the all > >time Motown greats but relatively unknown. > > The best northen is better than the best Motown, having the kind of > intensity that the saccharine Motown 'all-time greats' (with a very small > number of honourable exceptions) never got near. > > >buying Northern Soul records, like most other genres, involves wading > >through loads of crap. There are loads of vinyl or CD compilations on > >loads of labels, the best being the likes of Kent or Goldmine/Soul > Supply. > > There's never been a better time (at least since the heydays of the early > seventies) for buying good quality northern soul records. The quality of > the Kent compilations is pretty consistent and most Kent stuff is worth a > dice buy. Beware Goldmine/Soul Supply though. While some of their stuff is > fine, there ais way too much weak material and there seem to be too many > rehashes of obvious old track listings. Also, they seem to have less luck > in locating good quality master tapes than Kent, so the sound sometimes > suffers. My advice is always to listen before you buy... > And talking of buying, i you do fancy Goldmine discs, Polar Bear records > in Leeds used to have a seemingly endless supply of their CDs at very > reasonable prices. > > > >aving only around 20 or so Northern Soul comp LPs/CDs means I'm only > > small fan, and I prefer Sixties Soul. I'd recommend you look out > >or anything by Mary Love, Jackie Day or Vernon Garrett. > >he earlier Kent compilations ("For Dancers Only" and the like) are a > >good bet and there are good budget CDs about. Look out for a CD called > >18 Northern Soul Floorshakers' which you might even be able to pick > >up in those nasty 2.99 racks in your local Newsagent/petrol station! > > That's excellent advice. And the bit that follows is better: > > >avoid anything > >which says 'some tracks may be re-recorded etc.' > > ah, sage words. > > For my part, my favourite soul section is the deep stuff, slower and more > emotional, just beautiful. Buy 'Dave Godin's Deep Soul Treasures' (Kent), > kill for a copy of the Betty Lavette Lp on Charly, and go from there. > That's my tip. > > Sorry about the lack of B&S. > > Cheerio > > tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gwood at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 11:53:30 1998 From: gwood at xxx.uk (Gerard Wood) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:53:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Pop Quiz In-Reply-To: <24750.199801131054@harrier.le.ac.uk> Message-ID: At 10:54 am +0000 13/1/98, D.J. Frazer wrote: >The question about the only duo with two mid-priced LPs in 97 - the only >duos I >can think of are Wham, Simon & Garfunkel, Tears for Fears, Foster & Allen >(only >joking), Sam & Dave, The Eurythmics, Bros(joking again). > >Any of these suggestion correct I wonder? Were Wham! strictly a duo? Pepsie & Shirlie seemed to be there most of the time. Tears For Fears became a solo project for Roland Orzabal after a coupla years. And there were three of 'em in Bros (don't forget Craig the drummer!) for most of their 'career'. I'd still favour the Everything But The Girl option meself. Gez, felt the need to post something irrelevant ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 12:13:37 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:13:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Wishing on Planes In-Reply-To: <34BB44A4.605F@virgin.net> Message-ID: Hiya, Does anyone knows where I can get a SHOESTRINGS 'if wishing on Planes' album. Ive tried Parasol but was unavailable. Anyone fancy going down to the PASTELS gig in LEEDS? Cheers D A N I E L O O ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 12:47:43 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:47:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Artist royalties and begging request for tigermilk tape. In-Reply-To: <089754852230c18UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Message-ID: > > p.s. does anyone out there like Momus ? I think that he's a noticable > influence in quite a few b&s songs. He's released tons of stuff over the > years, some a bit iffy, but some is sublime. He's got a great web site at > http://www.demon.co.uk/momus/ > yes: i do. haven't heard much of his material since hippopotamomus, but 'a complete history of sexual jealousy parts 17-24 is a work of genius, and i do pop into his site every so often; alastair> > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 12:50:23 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:50:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Whatever crossed my mind really... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Stuart Gardiner wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jan 1998, Honey wrote: > > > Bethey I think this is a truly brilliant idea. I have been wanting > > to ditch my middle name for ages. Someone in the UK who's done it > > tell us how much and how. > > So does the 'dot' in your email address stand for 'Dorothy'? (reader slaps own thigh heartily in appreciation) > > As for this bootlegging thing - I've got a friend who's offered to record > my tape of Tigermilk onto CD for me. The thing is, it's not a brilliant > quality tape as it is, so I'd still buy it if it was ever released on CD; > the only difference to having it on tape is that you can pick out the > tracks you want at that time etc. Then I could have The State I Am In, > Expectations, She's Losing It and Mary Jo on repeat permanently for weeks > on end... > > The reason there is so much fuss about Rialto is that they're brilliant. > Their last two singles are everything we were hoping for from the new Pulp > material, but never got. We need something to listen to whilst we're > waiting for the Modern Rock Song EP to be released. > > Much as I have enjoyed reading everyone debating how tall I am, I ought to > put you out of your misery and say that I am 6ft 6. Which is about twice > as tall as Julia. So I'm probably the one who was standing in front of you > in Manchester blocking your view... > > Oh, and if the band really do read this list occasionally, can I get down > on my knees and beg you to play a gig(s?) at thye Royal Albert Hall? That > would be the most incredible experience ever... > > Stuart G > (aka The Tall Git) > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 12:39:58 1998 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:39:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A Northern Slip.... Message-ID: <01BD2020.5C541AE0@manray.impressions-gallery.com> hello again..... Pete wrote: >>Maybe I should buy more. But buy what ? I don`t fancy going to seedy >>holiday camps and paying 100 quid for a single (or spinning on my back >>either to be honest !). Anyone have any great insights into the murky >>world of Northern Soul ? > > >A murky dredged darkly majestic like world it is. From what I have read >the band where in the throes of breaking up whlst recording A Northern >Soul. They ended up splitting for a while Lo and behold the title track >which is one of the most mind pummeling songs you're ever likely to hear is >about Noel Gallagher when he left Oasis for a brief period. [snip!] ah... slight misunderstanding here methinks... the original posting referred to Northern Soul as in rare 60's soul records played at clubs that dust the floor with talcum powder in order to let those feet glide....... Not A Northern Soul as in verve's second album... If you want more about Northern Soul, check out the many vinyl/cd re-issues on goldmine, Chess and charley records. I posted something a while ago about an old soul singer hero of mine, Terry Callier, who has recently worked with Beth Orton. T Hopkins mailed me back after a tape, and he seems very up on Northern Soul, so he might be able to help you (I'm more a soul Jazz, funk and brasilian fan myself) Choo-choo mitchell expressed a leaning (oo-err!) as well..... There is a bootleg issue here as well, in that a lot of these rare groove compilations are iffy, and no money gets back to the original artists (although they all got ripped off by their original labels anyway...) BTW to those I promised tapes of Terry Callier, they're on the way. And I still offer to make tapes of Tigermilk as well!! later, matlockxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stip at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 12:47:33 1998 From: Stip at xxx.uk (Stip / Blue Music) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:47:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pearlfishers In-Reply-To: <01BD1EA4.0A1107C0@manray.impressions-gallery.com> Message-ID: Matt Locke writes > >>By the way, does anyone know anything about the Pearlfishers? The review = >>I read from TweeKitten sounded fabulous! Classic acoustic pop? > >Ahhh! the pearlfishers!!! >When I lived in Glaosgow I used to work at a >restaurant on the Dumbarton Road One of my co-chefs was a woman called rachel who went >out with, and later married (at the people's palace) mil from the pearlfishers >(His full name is serbian and i can't remeber the spelling.) Mil Stricevic, I think his name was. Ooh, those cheekbones. Ooh, that sultry brow. Ooh, those excrutiatingly tight jeans... a strapping lad if ever I saw one. The worst of it is that I'm lead to believe that he's no longer part of said entourage. >I don't remeber much about the band except that at the time thay seemed a bit >'rocktastic' (ie more deacon blue than B&S) They did release a couple of 'rocktastic' as you say, singles - Sacred, and 'Hurt', and they were prone to playing with Deacon Blue in the early 90's, not that I'm complaining. They even shared electric guitars at one gig if my memory serves me right. Before then, however, they released a lovely little acoustic tape called 'woodenwire', so they didn't just contrive to rawk. I think Davie Scott is a very underrated songwriter - their debut album, Za Za's Garden had some wonderful moments, and they're now enjoying European interest with their new album. I believe Sony Germany are also taking good care of them. In a bleak attempt at some B&S connection, Davy and some Pearlfishers were last seen performing at the Serge Gainsbourg tributes in Glasgow and Stirling, also featuring some Belles and Sebastians > and mil had a tendency to show off >his bum in tight jeans.... Ah, Mil, Mil... So he's married now is he? Crushed, I am. I'm off to skulk for a few weeks again. Love Nicola x PS - Does everyone in Glasgow get married at the People's Palace? I don't recommend it in July. -- Nicola M Stip / Blue Music www.stip.demon.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 12:46:38 1998 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:46:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Pop Quiz Message-ID: <01BD2021.4ACB77E0@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> >The question about the only duo with two mid-priced LPs in 97 Belle & Sebastian. Obviously. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 12:54:40 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 12:54:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199801131037.KAA15427@mailsrv.hiway.co.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, John Stuart wrote: > >Re: The quiz - Lauren Laverne 'dates' Taylor Parkes from MM, not Pricey. > And > >Gorky's have never had a Top 40 hit. It's 60ft Dolls, Manics, Catatonia, > >Stereophonics, Supa Furries. And if anyone can solve question 14 they > deserve > >a medal. > > Gorky's Diamond Dew was in the top 40, wasn't it? pretty close, i think, but not quite: same with patio song. alastair > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bullis at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 16:27:41 1998 From: bullis at xxx.net (todd) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 08:27:41 -0800 Subject: Sinister: newbie B&S stuff Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980113082741.007a7db0@pop.avana.net> First things first... I am new to the B&S list, subscribe to the digest form, and have been loving IYFS for about six months. I am into many many other bands who I won't bore you with listing here, but I will slide in Pulp because I think many from lipgloss are on this as well. So my cliched, yet important- to -me -so- don't -slam me -'cos- I- need -to -know questions: Is 'Tigermilk' going to be re-released as I have heard? If not, could somebody make me a copy? What was the talk of posters? Is there an IYFS poster available? I would love to frame it, as I consider it a work of art. weell....thats all for now. thanks todd ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iles at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 14:24:52 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:24:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Top Forty Welsh and Duo Message-ID: Could the top forty mid-price duo be the Chemical Brothers? Don't have any of their albums, so don't know what they cost though? And surely Patio Song by Gorky's got in the top forty - or was that last year... Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Tue Jan 13 14:20:18 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 09:20:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: singles Message-ID: does anyone know of a good place to order some of the singles? looking around on the web i found a place that has some of them for about 4 pounds each and i didnt know if that was a good price or if anyone knew of a place in the US that was selling them. thanks roberta **oh you look so tired mouth slack and wide ill-housed and ill-advised your face is as mean as your life has been crash into my arms i want you****** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From u7k88 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 14:36:39 1998 From: u7k88 at xxx.uk (GR Clarkson) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 14:36:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: re: how high? Message-ID: Hello folks! > Much as I have enjoyed reading everyone debating how tall I am, I ought > to > put you out of your misery and say that I am 6ft 6. Which is about twice > as tall as Julia. So I'm probably the one who was standing in front of > you > in Manchester blocking your view... If I was in anyone's way, may i also apologise. I was only there on the saturday night but both me and my twin brother (we have a combined height of 13ft 6ins) may have got in some poor folks way. I'm sorry. As for tapings of Tigermilk, what do the band think? I would assume that anyone who goes to the trouble of asking for a copy from this list would be more than willing to buy the said album if it was ever re-released, it's just the only way of listening . Also, surely giving the opertunity to listen to Tigermilk to as many people as possible would benefit B+S by gaining more support and being able to play at places like the Royal Albert Hall, as well as boosting the sales of their current releases. Cheerybye Greg ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 15:06:07 1998 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:06:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Bootlegging from Vinyl Message-ID: <01BD200A.E1BA80E0@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> I remember how angry I was last autumn when this whole bootlegging Tigermilk thingy started. Parachute wanted a CDROM so he could listen to Tigermilk. Jeepster reponded (with a great lack of political couth in my humble opinion) threatening legal action against anyone who tried to produce a CD copy which in a way was strange because Jeepster does not even own the recording. Since then, I have come to be more sympathetic to the Jeepster side as comes to bootlegs. I mean, it's just not right for someone to be stealing their bit of intellectual property and amassing huge profits as a result. Further, just to comfort B&S and/or Jeepster, CD's mass produced from a Vinyl source would be inferior to those from the Master Tape unless a great deal of money was spent trying to digitally remaster the sound. Also, cateran on chat made it known that Cdroms, played on a regual CD player which lack the ability to oversample them, sound noticeably infererior (if one is an audiophile). Now that doesn't mean that someone trying to make money wouldn't be able to peddle these inferior products making and making appreciable profit. Frankly though, I don't think Jeester, Electric Honey, or Belle and Sebastian would be able to do anything to stop it. In effect, the only thing protecting Belle and Sebastian right now is their relative obscurity. However, it's really unfair to unleash that kind of anger we saw last fall on list members. We are their biggest fans. We're the ones who enjoy most listening to their music. We are the ones who proselytize their music to the world. We are not going to want to screw up B&S's musical careers. Don't make us feel like pariahs. Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 15:46:10 1998 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:46:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a beautiful ending In-Reply-To: <199801130227.VAA28333@Vector.inexpress.net> Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980113154610.2cffc606@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> >Genial Genevieve wrote: >Some on here mentioned Momus...? I've been trying to get the Jaques/Momus >'How To Make Love' cd...Jaques is the alter ego of Jack.....and Jack are >lovely.... Jack are alright, but the Jacques CD, despite the lovely cover and everything is not really that good. You're better off with the, like, AWEsome Tindersticks. ('For those' est merveilleux) Have you seen 'Kissed'? It reminds you of heavenly creatures at the start, a bit, beautiful only slightly mental. Kelly a.k.a.Laurie Lemans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 15:32:27 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:32:27 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #15 Message-ID: In a message dated 1/13/98 6:56:08 AM, you wrote: <> A friend of mine is going to burn a CD for Tigermilk for me too. I prefer vinyl then cd's and tapes a distant third. Since I don't own the LP and I hate tapes, he's burning my tape copy onto a disc for me to listen too. Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jesandy at xxx.edu Tue Jan 13 16:05:24 1998 From: jesandy at xxx.edu (Jennifer ) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:05:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re:Pop Quiz Message-ID: <01bd203d$0eb24560$1e169f95@jimmy..> could the duo everyone is debating be pet shop boys? they are usually prolific enough to have two LPs in one year.... just a thought... jennifer -----Original Message----- From: D.J. Frazer To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: Tuesday, January 13, 1998 6:28 AM Subject: Sinister: Re:Pop Quiz The question about the only duo with two mid-priced LPs in 97 - the only duos I can think of are Wham, Simon & Garfunkel, Tears for Fears, Foster & Allen (only joking), Sam & Dave, The Eurythmics, Bros(joking again). Any of these suggestion correct I wonder? Hope this helps in the quest, Daniel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From honey at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 16:07:10 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:07:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Photees Message-ID: OK - very hastily - photos of Isobel, sorry, B&S in Manchester now on the WWW site in a terrible fashion until I smarten them up, courtesy of jon "no h", who scanned them, courtesy of someone else who will get a credit, who took them. I'll create a proper page for them soon, I haven't even checked some of them, but at least it give Genevieve a chance to have a good oogle, Chris Leonard a chance to decide which one to fancy, and the band a good chance to check out their hair. Hopefully Jeepster will release a Baywatch style semi-nude calendar of the band soon. At: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/Manchester , any more welcome, just send them to me (or Andrew Dean or one of the other WWW site people). Don't send direct to the list please. Stop. Honey xxx -- Smithers, release the hounds. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 16:33:03 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:33:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester review Message-ID: <199801131626.QAA25421@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> This is my review of the Sunday night Manchester gigs, which will be published in the SU newspaper here later this week. It's a little old and stale now but I thought you might like to see it. > Belle and Sebastian, Manchester Town Hall, 28/12/97 > > "Take a second of the day and think of all the things which we have done > this year..." > > I know you've heard twice as many end-of-year summaries than a sane person > could reasonably stomach by now, but this was, simply, the coolest thing. > Belle and Sebastian, the pop group whose music has wrapped itself around > my year like fine bacon around a Christmas sausage, winding up 1997 with a > Classic Pop Event. > Among the many and various reasons I love Belle and Sebastian is the fact > that they are scrupulous in their insistence on doing things differently. > They seem to be able to exist effortlessly outside the tedious > restrictions of established pop method, to be completely different to > their crass contemporaries. > So there are three concerts in two days, including a matinee performance. > The gigs are held in the Victorian gothic splendour of Manchester Town > Hall (the most unusual venue I've seen since Belle and Sebastian played in > an octagonal church in London this summer...). The stage, bizarrely, is > C-shaped, meaning that at no point could any individual see the whole > band, who swapped places for each song. And I had no chance of inspecting > keyboard player Wee Chris's reported penchant for outrageous flared loons. > Most unusual of all, this is no slick pop spectacular. There are gaps > between the songs as a result of the stage layout or technical problems, > (one very lengthy one was due to some unspecified cello catastrophe), > filled with embarrassed comments or ad-hoc songs. Stevie demonstrated how > the guitar figure in the classic 'La Pastie De La Bourgeoisie' bore a > shocking resemblance to the theme from 'Emmerdale', and treated us to a > special rendition of Manchester's most famous contribution to pop history: > 'Matchstalk Men And Matchstalk Cats And Dogs'. Some of the above > displeased some of the capacity crowd, unhappy that the unwritten rules of > rock and roll were being so blatantly flouted. > I loved it. > I love them for the fact they don't feel the need to put on a bland > standard show. I love them for the fact that they put themselves in > unusual and difficult situations, as much to see what happens as anything. > I love them because they seem to be standing alone in consistently taking > chances in a way that none of the nominees for Brat awards could ever > understand. > And I love them because, as someone wise once said, they sound fucking > brilliant. Song after beautiful song, they reminded me why I adore their > records and made me all excited because the new songs sounded fresher, > more exciting, better still. Belle and Sebastian have a new LP out in the > springtime. If songs like 'Seymour Stein' and 'Loneliness Of The Middle > Distance Runner' are anything to go by, it's going to be fantastic. > Really. No pop band of the moment has such a fine grasp of pop perfection, > even down to the immaculate choice of cover versions. 'Reel Around The > Fountain' in March, this time 'In A Nutshell' the best song from the first > Orange Juice LP, a copper bottomed classic rendered, if anything, more > beautiful, shimmering and fragile than the original. > Of course, a professional journalist would be compelled to tell you of > weak points and faults (indeed, one well-known and far-too-old inky scribe > was reported to be ostentatiously parading his contempt for the band > during the matinee). I could, and can, see none. For the first time in > ages, I am too far gone, head over heels to have any kind of rational > perspective. Isn't that great? > Ordinarily, I would be warning you to catch up with Belle And Sebastian > before it is too late. True to form, they confound the ordinary. They seem > to be continuing upwards and onwards, each new song a new way to wring > emotional reactions from me and god knows how many others in a rainy > Manchester. > A fantastic night. Lots of good friends and me, all together for the > pleasure of seeing the best pop group in the whole world. And the pleasure > of dreaming of the new LP, as good a reason for looking forward to 1998 as > any. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Mon Jan 12 14:16:10 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 14:16:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: prepositions Message-ID: <199801121350.NAA05942@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Having heard what bands listees "get off on" I'd be interested to hear what bands listees had "got of WITH" or "got off TO". Or when going on long train journeys is there one band that always coincides with your destination, i.e. music you can get off AT... Unfortunately I can't play as I've never snogged anybody in a band and one of the great regrets of my life is that I have spent far too little time "kissing in my room to a popular tune". I'd never even gone on a Ferris Wheel till I went to Manchester for the gigs. Will nature make a man of me yet? John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 16:17:47 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:17:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Bootlegging from Vinyl Message-ID: <01bd203e$c9891f70$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Further, just to comfort B&S and/or Jeepster, CD's mass produced from a Vinyl source would be inferior to those from the Master >Tape unless a great deal of money was spent trying to digitally remaster the sound. Also, cateran on chat made it known that >Cdroms, played on a regual CD player which lack the ability to oversample them, sound noticeably infererior (if one is an audiophile). Hmmm... I'm afraid this point doesn't seem to make much sense. If a CD player reads a single circuit on a CD and the sum of all the bits on that circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end of that circuit then it will skip. All oversampling CD players do is attempt to read the circuit x number of times in an attempt to get it correct before actually playing it, they will also skip if unable to match the checksum. Either a CD will skip, or it'll sound exactly the same as it did when initially recorded, in the same way that if you take a binary computer program and splat a few zeroes into the middle of the file, it's not likely to make the program just slightly worse, just completely and untterly shaft it. I don't know where this sort of stuff comes from, but there was an article a few years ago that stated that should you keep your CD's in a fridge, they'd sound better! >Now that doesn't mean that someone trying to make money wouldn't be able to peddle these inferior products making and making >appreciable profit. Frankly though, I don't think Jeester, Electric Honey, or Belle and Sebastian would be able to do anything to stop it. >In effect, the only thing protecting Belle and Sebastian right now is their relative obscurity. Frankly too, I'm quite surprised bootlegs of Tigermilk aren't already readily available. I had a look in Barrowlands in Glasgow a few months ago just out of interest, and there aren't even any tapes, never mind CD's. >However, it's really unfair to unleash that kind of anger we saw last fall on list members. We are their biggest fans. We're the ones >who enjoy most listening to their music. We are the ones who proselytize their music to the world. We are not going to want to screw >up B&S's musical careers. Don't make us feel like pariahs. Indeed. What got me thinking however, is the size of the wages bill that B+S must accrue. Mick's previous band I remember were paying themselves 150 quid a week or so living expenses, so if you extrapolate that to Belle and Sebastian they must be paying a weekly wages bill of 1120 quid, this is quite considerable - so on that evidence it's probably about time Tigermilk received a legitamate release or bankruptcy looms! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 17:24:17 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:24:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: Tonight let's all make love in London Message-ID: <34bfa20a.21418448@email.mcmail.com> Hello, Just a little note to say that some of us are meeting at 8 o'clock (p.m.) on Thursday at the Good Mixer, so anyone who fancies meeting up for a drink and/or going to see Libido afterwards (Norwegian group - I've never heard them, but Elisabeth Z speaks highly) should be there then. Love Tag, a cockney sparrer for a week Miss Hoover, my face is on fire ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 19:26:28 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Northy) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:26:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: (Fwd) How I made my Pennies (working for Notcutts???) Message-ID: <199801131813.SAA11079@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >> >Northy wrote: >> >Isn't it weird - you want as many of your friends to hear B&S as >> >possible but wouldn't you hate it if everyone liked them and you were >> >just another fan.........I think this.......I don't want to be just >> >another faceless fan. >> >We are priveleged. Let us enjoy our position while we can > >> Fuck that and fuck you. (I hope I don't get told off by Honeydive Paul) I >> hope our beloved monsters of rock, lords of sleaze and kings of debauchery >> become rich and famous, it's their Ffate and yours is to whine and tell >> everyone how you knew them first. Yes Ok I am a "I saw them first...." person - but who can honestly say they wouldn't jump in if a friend said - "oh guess what I've just heard this great new band on the radio - they've come from nowhere" hmmm......it is just natural so just accept it >>fuck you Sorry if I offended you in any way I really am. How can i make it up to you. I am very very deeply sorry from the bottom of my heart np: Radiohead - How I made My Millions (what has everyone got against me???) oh and if Belle and Sebastian are reading this - I was Radiohead obsessed after OKC - saw them twice, bought most of their old singles and they were decidly my fave band. Already possessing the two singles, I put "La Pastie de la...." on and I was converted. The story continues Convert Count: 2 ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 18:15:14 1998 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:15:14 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: B&S Dreams Message-ID: I could be dreaming .. oh wait, I WAS dreaming! I overslept this morning, after a B&S dream. In the dream there was some radio call-in contest and the prize was a bag full of B&S merchandise (records, the ink polaroid books, shirts, etc.) The part I was most excited about was that the records included the new, unreleased songs (i know, that doesn't make sense!) that I haven't heard, stuck here in the U.S. :-( SO here's the weird bit: to win the prize I had to answer 12 questions about .. not pop music, but POTATOES!!! Anyone who can figure that out (no, i hadn't had potatoes for dinner) gets to be the happy bunny of the day (Honey Honey Paul Dorothy Belle Sebastian ChooChoo Chile Mitchell will crown you, to make it official.) After I won the prize the dream turned into one of those cliche run-from-the-bad-guys scenes and just when we were about to escape with squealing tires .. my cat woke me up demanding his breakfast. I looked around under the covers for my prize but it was nowhere to be found. :-( THis wasn't the first time I've had a B&S dream, but the others have always just been that someone tells me that the band is coming here (Seattle) and then .. I wake up. Boo. ("life is never dull in your dreams / A pity that it never seems to work the way you see it ..") Hey, I think someone mentioned the Puncture article on B&S written by Jenny Toomey of Tsunami. It's too long (5 pages) to post here, but it is the most in-depth and interesting read on B&S that I've ever found. She goes beyond mentioning that B&S are the VU of our time, and spends 6 long paragraphs exploring the connection, as she sees it. If any of you doing the B&S web sites wants a copy to put on the web I could snail mail it to you. (Note to D&K: Toomey refers to you as "the ultra-cool UK indie Jeepster" so add that to your compliment file.) OK, i've rambled enough, back to this pseudo-working thing now .. until the next Sinister digest arrives. - Dreaming Nicole ------ nicolina at drizzle.com ------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 17:55:03 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:55:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister:A Northern Soul References: <58e2ae1.34b94fa1@aol.com> <3.0.5.32.19980113095806.00815670@magna.com.au> Message-ID: <34BBAA77.66334052@colon.net.> Pete wrote: > At 07:05 PM 12/1/98 +0000, you wrote: > >Hello, > >As we are on the subject...... > >I have been listening to a bit of Northern Soul !! Well, > to be honest, I > >know very little about it, so I went out and bought the > "Wigan Casino > >Story" Volumes 1 and 2. Both are excellent. > > > >Maybe I should buy more. But buy what ? I don`t fancy > going to seedy > >holiday camps and paying 100 quid for a single (or > spinning on my back > >either to be honest !). Anyone have any great insights > into the murky > >world of Northern Soul ? > > A murky dredged darkly majestic like world it is. From > what I have read > the band where in the throes of breaking up whlst > recording A Northern > Soul. They ended up splitting for a while........ ......... > .......Emotions I think of are > oceans, flying, darkness, isolation and in some way sheer > survival. Oh god > this sounds like and undergraduate record review > > ....... Anyhow I digress. A Northern Soul is their best > album, and a > great title, for all it's majesty, it is northern soul. > > I didn't really say anything much hear I guess, but I do > recomend you all > getting it, and then follow that up with a Dirty Three CD, > and I will take > to your with warmness. > > Pete > I'd just like to waste everyone's time by saying this is the best message we've had on the list for a long time. I kept waiting and waiting for the punchline but it didn't come, and is all the better for that. Next time I see that album at a knockdown price I will snap it up as a tribute. Or get it taped. The other Nortern Soul is a bit of a murky world as well. I don't know how it is defined but it seems to cover just about anything you want it to. I've got quite a few of the Kent compilations and I like them a lot, not least because they represent excellent value for money. They are mostly uptempo things that go bum bum bum in a Motown or Fine Young Cannibals style, but there is also a CD entirely devoted to end of the evening smoochers for lovers in the dark. I haven't got it because I don't think anyone wants to snog with me for seventy-odd minutes. Most of the CDs cloudly proclaim the inclusion of singles that cost a hundred quid in holiday camps. There is also something called Southern Soul, so called because it is from the South. Volume Three of The Heart of Southern Soul describes itself as "gritty church-based vocals testifying to the joys and pain of sexual relationships", which brings us neatly back to Belle and Sebastian. More fun'n'frolics to be found at : http://www.acerecords.co.uk The good thing about these albums is you can listen to them loads of times without getting bored. There are also some fantastic fashions on display. How I long for a lifesize poster of Bobby Powell. Better still, his outfit. A collar the size of Concorde, big puffy sleeves, double breasted waistcoat and big fuck off flares. All in a lovely shade of orange. Intersted parties can borrow them from the Virgin Mega Library, tape them and then take them back. I still find that hard to believee. Don't you even have to make up some excuse about it being a present but they already had it? The times they are a changing. According to Phil Collins. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 16:48:53 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:48:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: to Stuart M References: <34BA53FC.3653@virgin.net> Message-ID: <34BB9AF5.419056C@colon.net.> Katrina at Jeepster wrote: > Olafia Svansdottir wrote: > > on a lighter note, i just found out today that the band > read the mail > from their office most days, so if you want to say hello > ... here's your > opportunity! > > cheers, > Katrina. Hello Stuart Murdoch, What's all this about an office? Have you got a fax machine? More importantly, what colour underpants are you wearing today? What the bloody hell are you doing "in the studio" until February? Who do you think you are, George Michael? And it's about time you did some rehearsing young man - there were some very disappointed pensioners in Manchester. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 17:08:08 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:08:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: <34B9E5D0.FC1ACFC4@totalweb.co.uk> <34BA58A8.E74@virgin.net> <34BA921F.C7191620@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BB9F77.50BE9B20@colon.net.> David & Katrina wrote: > i don't intend just to live of a tape of jansch or anyone > else. i do intend to > order a shiny cd when i know that i do like him and have a > rough idea of which > one to buy. > although shops like virgin our price have flexible returns > policies they rarely > have a good enough stock to be able to find new things and > experiment musical > preferences with. Do they really let you take things back now? Wonders will never cease. You don't even get a receipt here. You just have to fuck off if you don't like it. Which helps explain my lack of experimentationousness. > i know from working in an our price that i would have to > order a jansch cd > especially, special orders are exempt from their returns > policy and as such there > is no way i could experiment cheaply. I think you should just tape it and have done with it. Unless you especially want a CD. The price is built into the CD anyway, and Bert's table will hardly be affected. Lenny Waronker will be the one to suffer. Home taping is a good way of giving/getting something to listen to without handing over huge sums of cash to Lenny Waronker. > i really do not feel that a cd recording is of immediate > threat to the band's > future revenue, but it must be realised that should a mass > production of > Tigermilk on cd ever originate illegally, it would > probably have been done by > someone that we (as the list) know. simply because it is > us (the fans, friends, > record company, etc) that own the original vinyl > Tigermilk, so it is most likely > that the cd used would have originated from one of us (as > it is unlikely that a > cd produced from a tape would be accepted by any but the > most worthless > bootleggers). this is one of the most horrible > realisations on this subject, and > it is this i would love to prevent. we can serve ourselves > and protect the band > we love simply by restricting our own copies to tape > format and not a digital > (master) format. > I don't really agree with this. Someone said that loads of copies were given away at a party so probably Nick O'Teen or someone equally evil got hold of a copy. Also if people are paying upwards of seventeen thousand pounds for a vinyl copy it could be that they are doing it with the intention of making a huge profit by producing bootleg CDs. Any news about the stolen goodies? I dreamt about it you know. Quite a good one. Been having a lot of funny dreams since I moved house. Spooky. Who is Bert Jansch? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 18:28:09 1998 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:28:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Bootlegging from Vinyl Message-ID: >Hmmm... I'm afraid this point doesn't seem to make much sense. Why not? It is the disc pressing / burning method that is weaker, not the playback. >slightly worse, just completely and untterly shaft it. I don't know where >this sort of stuff comes from The 'Orange book' whatever that is. Pressed CD: Total Harmonic Distortion 65db, S/N ratio 82 dB Recordable CD: THD 55dB, S/N 80dB Recordable CDs follow a different recording algorithm called Absolute Time in Pre-groove (ATIP) which uses a lower quality recording known as 1 time over sampling, normal audio CDs use 4 time oversampling. (note it is the RECORDING that is noisier!). And this would be from a perfect digital information source, add onto the above, the sampling noise (I have a AWE64 for instance, not nearly professional level) and you have something that it pretty much matching an average tape dub. Oh and I only have one Bert Janch CD (the compilation on Demon) which I will not copy on CD or tape as I just wouldn't sleep an nights if I did so ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bramly at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 19:04:18 1998 From: bramly at xxx.uk (Bramleys) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:04:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: names#2 Message-ID: <01bd2056$0cc8bb80$LocalHost@bramly> Firstly, people who are already blessed with the names Sebastian or Isabelle are very lucky, but for the rest of us this is a must. Anyone know a really nice lawyer who could get us a bulk deal - kind of 400 for the price of 50?? I've already changed my name from Elizabeth to Beth, so this might not please my parents too much. post some inspiration bethey** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 15:05:12 1998 From: benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk (Coombs, Benjamin (B.J.)) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 15:05:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: names - changing Message-ID: Someone in the UK who's done it tell us how much and how.: I can answer this one. Last year my sister in England changed her name. The changing of her name was as simple as signing her name. All she had to do was go to our local family solisiters and ask them. they produced a form and she signed it. the difficult thing was having all her mail, banks, clubs, friends knowing she'd done it - easyier than getting a name change through marriage. And it cost around £10 pounds. > Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all the boys to Sebastian. They'll be this sudden rush at the solicitor's offices around the world, and eventually this massive phemomenon will reach headline news. There'll be loads of questions: How was it organised? Why? And then when our epitaphs are written, people will say "Ah, the famous 98 B&S Sinister-listee outbreak. I took a degree in it. Interesting stuff." and it'll be like plague victims but much nicer. Bethey I think this is a truly brilliant idea. I have been wanting to ditch my middle name for ages. Someone in the UK who's done it tell us how much and how. The Guidian newspaper posts a thing called Notes and Queries. Within it, some one asked: Are there any names that I am not allowed to use if I want to change my name by deed poll? Could I, for instance, call myself Coca Cola? Would anyone object to me being called Her Majesty The Queen Elizabeth the Second? I AM REMINDED of a man who changed his name by deed poll to "Yorkshire Bank plc Are Fascist Bastards" - and insisted on having it printed on his cheques. Darren Maughan, University of Warwick, Coventry (pousq at csv.warwick.ac.uk) YOU can't change your name by deed poll (or by statutory declaration, which is cheaper), whatever your solicitor and others may lead you to believe. In law your name is what you are known by (legitimately including aliases - for example, pen names, stage names, women using both married and maiden names). A deed poll is only a formal declaration of intent, but it has no relevance if you use a different name in practice. Say your name is John Smith. You go into a solicitor's office and execute a deed poll "changing" your name to Elvis Presley (it's happened). If, on coming out of the office, you continue to sign your cheques "John Smith", your name is still "John Smith"; if you start signing them "Cliff Richard" then your name is Cliff Richard. Of course, you need to be consistent, and the bank and the Inland Revenue will require evidence that you really are the person known as what you say you are (which is why deeds poll are taken, for practical purposes, as "evidence"). There is no legal restriction on the name you are known by, but the use of that name is subject to all the obvious restrictions on the use of language generally: obscenity, fraudulent impersonation, electoral malpractice, racism, blasphemy, libel and slander. So you can call yourself "Her Majesty the Queen" as long as you don't pretend to be the Queen. You could probably get away with calling yourself Coca-Cola (after all, you can't really be prevented from calling yourself W H Smith or F W Woolworth or Ronald McDonald) provided that you didn't do it by way of trade or affecting anyone else's, although I wouldn't vouch for the behaviour of courts in the United States. Dr J B Post, Axbridge, Somerset. THE TITLES of the ancient bishoprics and deaneries of the Church of England are protected by the criminal law. Under the Ecclesiastical Titles Act - mainly directed at preventing a rival establishment of the English hierarchy by the Catholic church - misappropriating one of these titles would be an offence. Tom Hennell, Withington, Manchester. A FEW years ago I read of a man who wanted to change his name to his favourite chatline number. However, his bank refused to accept it as a signature for his cheque book on the basis that it was too easily forged. Mark Wilkinson , Uxbridge, Middx. A FEW years ago I read of a man who wanted to change his name to F 731 HDB, claiming that it was cheaper than buying a personalised number plate for his car. Bob Morton, Hale, Cheshire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bijoux13 at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 19:39:39 1998 From: bijoux13 at xxx.com (Felicia Daniel) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:39:39 PST Subject: Sinister: the scoop on Sessions Message-ID: <19980113193939.1000.qmail@hotmail.com> hi gang, yesterday morning i spoke to chris douridas' assistant (chris being the host of sessions on west 54th), and she did confirm that it looks like the b&s session will never be aired. she made it sound as if chris himself was pretty peeved about this (i know he is a big fan), and in fact urged me and anyone else who is upset about this to complain to the show's executive producer. (i think it's actually higher-ups at pbs who nixed the episode, but if he gets enough complaints he might have something to fight with.) i feel sort of bad posting this guy's phone and fax number to the entire list, so if you would like to make your opinion heard, just drop me an email and i'll send the info to you. cheers, felicia bijoux13 at hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 19:55:25 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 19:55:25 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: the scoop on Sessions In-Reply-To: <19980113193939.1000.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: I feel strongly and I may never even get to see it. Felicia, can you forward me contact details (Michele already gave me Chris's) and I will send off something on behalf of you lot. I won't even ask you all because I know you will agree. I just wonder if we can get private access to the tapes at the very least. HPaul On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Felicia Daniel wrote: > hi gang, > > yesterday morning i spoke to chris douridas' assistant (chris being the > host of sessions on west 54th)... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluevelour at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 19:58:15 1998 From: bluevelour at xxx.com (mayfly the fly) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:58:15 PST Subject: Sinister: #3 and label stuff Message-ID: <19980113195817.29970.qmail@hotmail.com> The online magazine allstar (http://www.allstarmag.com) named IYFS as it's #3 album of the year behind Radiohead and Spiritualized, which is pretty good company. The review follows, it's very flattering, almost rapturous. This band is so splendid, their mixture of erudite string/ horn arrangements, sensitively sung vocals, rolling grooves, rockist rhythm guitars, and carousel organs is delicious. These Scottish folks' cross- pollinated, lush sound savvily recalls the creme de la creme of erudite pop history -- so many things at once you don't know where to begin. �� It's hard to resist playing the back of the bus fanboy game of What if: What if in the '60s the Kinks had collaborated with Lou Reed, produced by Burt Bacharach? Or in the '70s, if Nick Drake had cut a few sides with Roxy Music, with Jack Nitzsche producing? Or in the '80s, if Felt had recorded with the June Brides and Feelies, John Cale in the control booth? Belle and Sebastian sound like all of these things, sort of. Do people really think they sound like the Smiths? That group is so histrionic and self- important. B&S (not the names of anyone in the band) are too smart to care whether meat is murder or not. They want to know how it's cooked. �� There's lots of bands that sound good, especially in 1997. You've got Movietone, Stereolab, Yo La Tengo, Richard Davies, Home, Mogwai, the High Llamas, Fuck, Smog, Broadcast, the Elephant 6 collective, the Lilys -- everyone sounds good, the pop life is a party where everyhting goes right... except maybe in the words department. The conversation, the lyrics are a bit lacking in general. �� But Belle and Sebastian's words are the tops, the dandy-ish extreme. They're like Oscar Wilde showing up for supper. There's not only a bite to their humor that recalls Mark E. Smith, a pathos that reminds one of Eitzel, and a dainty way with words that hints at Nick Drake, but an ironic edge that's as sharp as the Monochrome Set, and as full of life as the Kinks: "Could I write a requiem for you when you're dead?/ 'She had the moves, she had the speed, it went to her head'/ She never needed anything to get her round the track/ But when she's on her back/ She had the knowledge/ To get her into college" -- from "The Stars of Track and Field." Bravo, bravo. I'm holding my breath until the Matador record is released. -Mike McGonigal ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluevelour at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 19:58:04 1998 From: bluevelour at xxx.com (mayfly the fly) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 11:58:04 PST Subject: Sinister: #3 and label stuff Message-ID: <199801131958.LAA01800@f140.hotmail.com> The online magazine allstar (http://www.allstarmag.com) named IYFS as it's #3 album of the year behind Radiohead and Spiritualized, which is pretty good company. The review follows, it's very flattering, almost rapturous. This band is so splendid, their mixture of erudite string/ horn arrangements, sensitively sung vocals, rolling grooves, rockist rhythm guitars, and carousel organs is delicious. These Scottish folks' cross- pollinated, lush sound savvily recalls the creme de la creme of erudite pop history -- so many things at once you don't know where to begin. �� It's hard to resist playing the back of the bus fanboy game of What if: What if in the '60s the Kinks had collaborated with Lou Reed, produced by Burt Bacharach? Or in the '70s, if Nick Drake had cut a few sides with Roxy Music, with Jack Nitzsche producing? Or in the '80s, if Felt had recorded with the June Brides and Feelies, John Cale in the control booth? Belle and Sebastian sound like all of these things, sort of. Do people really think they sound like the Smiths? That group is so histrionic and self- important. B&S (not the names of anyone in the band) are too smart to care whether meat is murder or not. They want to know how it's cooked. �� There's lots of bands that sound good, especially in 1997. You've got Movietone, Stereolab, Yo La Tengo, Richard Davies, Home, Mogwai, the High Llamas, Fuck, Smog, Broadcast, the Elephant 6 collective, the Lilys -- everyone sounds good, the pop life is a party where everyhting goes right... except maybe in the words department. The conversation, the lyrics are a bit lacking in general. �� But Belle and Sebastian's words are the tops, the dandy-ish extreme. They're like Oscar Wilde showing up for supper. There's not only a bite to their humor that recalls Mark E. Smith, a pathos that reminds one of Eitzel, and a dainty way with words that hints at Nick Drake, but an ironic edge that's as sharp as the Monochrome Set, and as full of life as the Kinks: "Could I write a requiem for you when you're dead?/ 'She had the moves, she had the speed, it went to her head'/ She never needed anything to get her round the track/ But when she's on her back/ She had the knowledge/ To get her into college" -- from "The Stars of Track and Field." Bravo, bravo. I'm holding my breath until the Matador record is released. -Mike McGonigal ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jacques.buron at xxx.fr Tue Jan 13 21:15:12 1998 From: jacques.buron at xxx.fr (Stéphane) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:15:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: names - changing References: Message-ID: <34BBD960.431C@smtp.wanadoo.fr> > > Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all > the boys to Sebastian. You lucky boys (and girls, by the way)!!! I DO NOT HAVE a middle name, and never thought it could be so frustrating... Anyway, I could be the only Stéphane Sebastian Buron in France. But it would become SS Buron, and... well... you see what I mean... Stéphane ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 10:28:45 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 10:28:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: <34B9E5D0.FC1ACFC4@totalweb.co.uk> <34BA58A8.E74@virgin.net> <34BA921F.C7191620@totalweb.co.uk> <34BA943E.70CC@virgin.net> Message-ID: <34BB41DC.300AB8D7@totalweb.co.uk> David Walker wrote: > Hey !!! > You wrote..... > "i know from working in an our price that i would have to order a jansch > cd especially, special orders are exempt from their returns policy and > as such there is no way i could experiment cheaply." > > I manage a Virgin store and we always carry at least a collection of > Bert Jansch in stock. I used work the Our Price stores, and yes, I > agree, unlikely to have one in. As for flexibility of returns, yes I > agree, all stores in the chain should at the very least exchange things > you don`t like. So why not give it a go ???? > > Cheers, > Tintin. a cool idea i thought, so i called up the lady at virgin our price HO at Kew interchange (i can see it from my living room!), and was told that this is not the case.a return to virgin our price has to be a faulty one, which would then be replaced with the same item or an alternative only if the same item is not available. a special order is non-returnable unless the item can be proven to be faulty upon purchase, then it is the managers discretion which decides whether you can have an alternative item although she said that a manager should really just order the same item as a replacement. she also said that these policy's were in place to prevent virgin our price being used as a lending facility as the result would only ever be that virgin our price would have purchased a lot of obscure stock for the sake of a few sales, and as a business it was in their best interest to be doing the opposite (being little stock and selling it all). conclusion: i could order bert jasnch, but if it wasn't what i wanted i would be totally relying on the mood and character of the manager to decide whether or not i could return the said item. so there is a risk, you can't experiment or expand your taste by shopping, and it seems we're back with the option of taping to gain an idea of whether or not you like something. which brings us back to square one... -- david kitchen -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 20:08:31 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 16:08:31 -0400 Subject: Sinister: names - changing Message-ID: >Are there any names that I am not allowed to use if I want to > change my name by deed poll? Could I, for instance, call myself > Coca Cola? Would anyone object to me being called Her Majesty > The Queen Elizabeth the Second? I read in an old Seventeen magazine about some guy in the USA who changed his name to Trout Fishing In America, because he loved Richard Brautigan's stuff. And he changed it just in time for it to appear on his highschool diploma. His friends call him Trout. truly, jessica ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From yazansam at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 21:46:42 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Yaz) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:46:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Tonight let's all make love in London Message-ID: <199801132152.VAA04477@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Boys and girls I've solved our name-changing problem!! (Are you sitting comfortably..? Well then I'll begin.) (Listen very carefully, it's a good one...) Following Tag's repeated request for us all to make love in London, I think it would be quite fun if we all name the kids "Isobelle or, alternatively, if they're a boy, Sebastian) This way we could cunningly infiltrate the world's population with a new generation of Belle & Sebastians - a truly disturbing and freaky phenomenon in history which scientists would then spend years puzzling over...... Clever huh? PS Genevieve - what's all this about a secret Longpigs track - where, how and why did no-one tell me? And more importantly, what's all this about Stuart evans getting married without me? (Sound of sobbing in background) Can this heart-stopping news really be true? Are they all married ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 22:37:47 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:37:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: Yes sir, I can boogie In-Reply-To: <199801131902.TAA26962@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801131902.TAA26962@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34bce2ec.1164435@email.mcmail.com> Hello, I'm on the digest now so I get to reply all in one go. >>The question about the only duo with two mid-priced LPs in 97 Ant and Dec? Peters and Lee. Cannon and Ball. No, I've got it - it was Baccara. They were great. >If I was in anyone's way, may i also apologise. I was only there on the >saturday night but both me and my twin brother (we have a combined height of >13ft 6ins) may have got in some poor folks way. I'm sorry. Personally, I wasn't in *anyone's* way. I am a midget. Moreover, I have very small feet. > Have you seen 'Kissed'? It reminds you of heavenly creatures at the start, >a bit, beautiful only slightly mental. Kelly, how come you get to see all the great films? 'Heavenly Creatures' ruled like a badass though. Better than poxy 'Small Faces' any day. >OK - very hastily - photos of Isobel, sorry, B&S Perve. Bet she's wearing school uniform. You people make me sick. >Hopefully Jeepster will release a Baywatch style >semi-nude calendar of the band soon. Double perve. Now this one is my favourite... >Having heard what bands listees "get off on" I'd be interested to hear >what bands listees had "got of WITH" You little voyeur. Nice boys never kiss and tell. >or "got off TO". I find Einsturzende Neubauten always goes down well with the Laydeez. >Or when going on long train journeys is there one band that always coincides >with your destination, i.e. music you can get off AT... Getting a little bit contrived now... >Hmmm... I'm afraid this point doesn't seem to make much sense. If a CD >player reads a single circuit on a CD and the sum of all the bits on that >circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end of that circuit then it >will skip. All oversampling CD players do is attempt to read the circuit x >number of times in an attempt to get it correct before actually playing it, >they will also skip if unable to match the checksum. Either a CD will skip, >or it'll sound exactly the same as it did when initially recorded, in the >same way that if you take a binary computer program and splat a few zeroes >into the middle of the file, it's not likely to make the program just >slightly worse, just completely and untterly shaft it. I don't know where >this sort of stuff comes from, but there was an article a few years ago that >stated that should you keep your CD's in a fridge, they'd sound better! Is Keith on crack or something? This isn't even in English. They smeared jam on them on 'Tomorrow's World'. >Just a little note to say that some of us are meeting at 8 o'clock >(p.m.) on Thursday at the Good Mixer, so anyone who fancies meeting up >for a drink and/or going to see Libido afterwards (Norwegian group - >I've never heard them, but Elisabeth Z speaks highly) should be there >then. This Tag guy is a prick, I hate him. >what has everyone got against me??? Poor Northy. All together now.....aaah. >Who is Bert Jansch? Thank you Peter. I didn't like show my ignornace by asking. I think he's made up. >Pressed CD: Total Harmonic Distortion 65db, S/N ratio 82 dB > >Recordable CD: THD 55dB, S/N 80dB > >Recordable CDs follow a different recording algorithm called Absolute Time >in Pre-groove (ATIP) >which uses a lower quality recording known as 1 time over sampling, normal >audio > CDs use 4 time oversampling. (note it is the RECORDING that is noisier!). > >And this would be from a perfect digital information source, add onto the >above, the sampling noise >(I have a AWE64 for instance, not nearly professional level) and you have >something that it pretty > much matching an average tape dub. Oh God, Keith, what have you started - now, they're all at it. >Oh and I only have one Bert Janch CD (the compilation on Demon) which I >will not copy on CD or tape as I just wouldn't sleep an nights if I did so He doesn't exist, I tell you. It's all make believe. You've all gone quite mad. Incidentally Lynn from Vinyl Exchange was very disappointed that she didn't see enough of Stuart's nice trousers. Curvaceous brunette Lynn (20-something) also confessed said she'd rather see them on her bedroom floor. Her boyfriend (who cannot be named in case JOHN McCREADY loses his house credentials) was unavailable for comment. The band read this? Oi Murdoch - my mate fancies you. Woooohoooo....'Fargo's on Sky! Love you each and every one especially Northy Tag xxxx Miss Hoover, my face is on fire ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Tue Jan 13 22:33:49 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 17:33:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: thanks Message-ID: many thanks to all who offered advice on where to find the cd singles in the US. roberta (who goes to the university of South Florida and does not live in San Francisco) **oh you look so tired mouth slack and wide ill-housed and ill-advised your face is as mean as your life has been crash into my arms i want you****** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 23:13:32 1998 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 23:13:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Albert Hall Message-ID: Just thought I'd clear a few thing up as it was me who first planted the seeds of thought about a gig at the Albert Hall. It holds about 3000 on an Ordinary Let. It's actual capacity is 3771 but you can't sell all the seats because the hall sold 999 year leases on some of them to raise money when it was built. These seats tend to get used because the owners sell their tickets on if they don't fancy seeing the show themselves. There are also choir seats and some really bad sightline seats which you can't really sell. As it's in London and (some would argue) fairly prestigious, you can guarantee that Belle and Sebastian would sell more tickets there than they did for Manchester. If you allow for people going to more than one show, there must've been just under 2000 people at the Manchester gigs. Add to that the inevitable guest list that you get with London shows and you've got a sell-out on your hands. With regard to the floor, it would need to be seated as this helps the sound (oh no - not this again!). If you do standing on the floor, the 'top end' is soaked up by the first few rows leaving a muddy mess for everyone else to listen to. Spiritualized were gutted when they found out that the floor was standing at their show, because they're all really into the sound and didn't want to have to compromise. You can't do unreserved seating. If you sell every single seat and it's unreserved with no standing, you'd end up with pockets of empty seats that no-one really wants to sit in but are forced to because there's nowhere else. And it's not poncey, it's just like any other hall except is called the 'ROYAL' Albert Hall. And the person who said backstage was grotty was absolutely right. But it IS architecturally interesting so maybe they should try it. Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Tue Jan 13 22:58:39 1998 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 22:58:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I saw 'em first! Message-ID: northy wrote: oh and if Belle and Sebastian are reading this - I was Radiohead obsessed after OKC - saw them twice, bought most of their old singles and they were decidly my fave band. Already possessing the two singles, I put "La Pastie de la...." on and I was converted. You bastard, I saw Radiohead years ago when they were called 'On A Friday' and they used to play the Arse & Ferret in Oxford on the last Friday on the month. I've bought all their records on the day they came out and I hate it when 'new' fans like you try to steal my glory. Radiohead belong to me - not you! Ironic Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aroels at xxx.fr Tue Jan 13 23:04:00 1998 From: aroels at xxx.fr (Anne) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 98 23:04 GMT+0100 Subject: Sinister: a beautiful ending Message-ID: >>Genial Genevieve wrote: >>Some on here mentioned Momus...? I've been trying to get the Jaques/Momus >>'How To Make Love' cd...Jaques is the alter ego of Jack.....and Jack are >>lovely.... > > Jack are alright, but the Jacques CD, despite the lovely cover and >everything is not really that good. You're better off with the, like, >AWEsome Tindersticks. ('For those' est merveilleux) > Kelly MOMUS is playing in London upstairs at the Garage on 21st January... Is anyone from the list going? (cos I am) I saw him in Paris and that was fantastic. I love JACK too. "Pioneer Soundtrack" is a magnificent album and I would recommend it to everyone on this list. JACK made my year in 96, just like BELLE & SEBASTIAN did in 1997. Both bands release a new album in 1998 and I can't wait to hear them ! (JACK's one will be called "The Jazz Age", I think...) Elle est pas belle la vie ?!??? 1998 is gonna be MAGNIFIQUE ! Anne (Creme Anglaise fanzine) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 00:40:14 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Northy) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:40:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping Message-ID: <199801132327.XAA17364@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> > we're back with > the option of taping to gain an idea of whether or not you like something. > > which brings us back to square one... you can borrow albums from the library y'know + two examples from me 1. Bought Vanishing Point - Primal Scream. It was shite. Took it back to Woolworths and said it was the wrong album. No questions asked and I was fully refunded with CASH. 2. Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present. To all at Jeepster who think this is immoral (If you do - I dunno?) I have made (through tapes) and general blabbing sold you 2 x IYFS 1 x 3,6,9 1 x LLPJ 1 x DOW Imagine if God was on wheels? Or if he was just a dog? hmmm..... Northy ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 00:45:37 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Northy) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:45:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I've worked at Tescos and I HATED it Message-ID: <199801132332.XAA18024@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> > Boys and girls I've solved our name-changing problem!! > > (Are you sitting comfortably..? Well then I'll begin.) > (Listen very carefully, it's a good one...) > > Following Tag's repeated request for us all to make love in London, I think > it would be quite fun if we all name the kids "Isobelle or, alternatively, > if they're a boy, Sebastian) This way we could cunningly infiltrate the > world's population with a new generation of Belle & Sebastians - a truly > disturbing and freaky phenomenon in history which scientists would then > spend years puzzling over...... Isobelle is a beautiful name though I must admit and Seb is a cool nickname for a boy (not as cool as Northy though) Good thing the band aren't called Marmaduke & Nellie PS - anyone out there read the Bible Code book? If so - scary innit? np: Luscious Jackson - Naked Eye bye from the now accepted Northy (ta Tag!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 23:20:16 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:20:16 EST Subject: Sinister: Similarities in Sound Message-ID: I just bought Herb Alpert's "Going Places" album in a thrift store (one dollar!) and listening to the song "More and More Amor," there's a trumpet solo that sounds suspiciously like the trumpet solo in "beautiful". ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 01:42:11 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Northy) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 01:42:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: CENTURY OF FAKERS VIDEO Message-ID: <199801140029.AAA23616@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> ALL I CAN SAY IS - IF YOU WANNA SEE A B&S VIDEO THEN WATCH MTV ALTERNATIVE NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once again - whilst writing my emails I heard the opening tones of Century of Fakers. Not thinking much of this as it is lodged permanently in my CD player, I realised I was listening to MTV. It has happened two times out of three (in the last three weeks when I have been watching it) kids Only Lazy Line Painter Jane to go! (don't tell me what it is like as it will spoil the surprise) Video: The Band (I assume) in various states of kissing with their lads and lasses. Short excerpts of a young women using sign language to translate bits of the lyrics which appear on the bottom of the screen. A bloke with a beard features heavily in the video - who is he? Northy ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Tue Jan 13 18:37:53 1998 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 18:37:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Pop Quiz Message-ID: > And there were three of 'em in Bros (don't forget Craig the >drummer!) for most of their 'career'. Drummer?? Drummer????? HAH! {Please note you have been expelled from the pop elite, hand in your Dollar records at the door.) Attempt at B&S content. erm, he was from Kirkcaldy which is in Scotland, and so are B&S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 00:31:05 1998 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 00:31:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping Message-ID: >2. Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. >It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. >Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully >contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present. Hmm, I really do think that Radiohead fans just don't like music ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 01:01:27 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:01:27 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: David Walker Message-ID: Re: "a return to virgin our price has to be a faulty one, which would then be replaced with the same item or an alternative only if the same item is not available." Nah.... music journalists have been known to 'return' promo copies of CDs to Our Price in exchange for a CD they actually want on a regular basis. Not that I'd know from personal experience or anything. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 01:23:59 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:23:59 EST Subject: Sinister: Albert and his Hall.Or Nothing. Message-ID: <50b517c3.34bc13b1@aol.com> Greetings, anoraksters! Mark (whoever he may be) wrote: "And it's not poncey, it's just like any other hall except is called the 'ROYAL' Albert Hall. And the person who said backstage was grotty was absolutely right." Yes, it's a hideous venue, and the sound is awful. I spent a delightful hour backstage there with Ant & Dec and Code Red, for my sins, and I can confirm that it's both choddy and piketastic in a very very chilly kinda fashion. B&S in that venue would be a VERY bad idea. How about Docklands Arena? Maybe St Pauls would be the perfect venue? NB, if B&S do indeed happen to read this 'stuff', I write the music section on Teletext Channel 4 (yes, you can stop smirking now, thankyew... it pays well, I promise. And I used to write for the Mirror - tabloidtastic! - and Select, AND I was the official fashion 'expert' for various radio and TV shows..... what was that Blackstreet single called? No Dignity, I believe) and I want, nay, DEMAND an interview. Er... please? Stephen. Slap me on the patio and call me Mister. PS.... re: Sarah records, the best release was Brighter Now by Razorcuts. Does YOUR heart go boom? Oh, and if anyone can tell me where I can get The Pastels' Suck On and Up For A Bit, or even a CD copy of Crawl Babies, I may just have to wet my kernickers in appreeeziation. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 01:46:22 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:46:22 EST Subject: Sinister: a resemblance. . . Message-ID: <9882230a.34bc18f0@aol.com> If one must decide which cartoon characters the members of Belle and Sebastian have a resemblance to, then it recently occurred to me how much Stuart M. reminds me of Tintin, the reporter. Yes, and the Dog On Wheels is Snowy, but I can not think who would be Captain Haddock. . . suggestions? >From what I hear of Chris Geddes and his bucket, he might be suitable. Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 01:53:49 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:53:49 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: sneaky practices Message-ID: <942a0e7a.34bc1ab2@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-13 18:30:54 EST, rnorth at amos.co.uk writes: << 1. Bought Vanishing Point - Primal Scream. It was shite. Took it back to Woolworths and said it was the wrong album. No questions asked and I was fully refunded with CASH. 2. Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present. >> My favorite scheme is to go to a local record store and find a sealed copy of an album (usually costs $8 or $9) and return it at a major store for something I really want. Actually, this is how I got IYFS! The used store previously had a copy, but it was gone. So I bought something like Barenaked Ladies and took it to Tower. I guess I was feeling sinister that day. I feel bad now that it turned out to be my favorite album of 1997. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From samiam2 at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 02:00:01 1998 From: samiam2 at xxx.com (Sam Khater) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:00:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: UK Expressions and Spandau Ballet/Killing Zoe? Message-ID: <34BC1BFD.67B9@ix.netcom.com> I'm familiar with some UK expressions, but what does the term 'licking railings' in LLPJ mean? Also, in the Trash Can Sinatras 'Main Attraction' there is a line that goes 'off to the trough and cubicle to get pharmaceutically full of yourself' or something like that. What does 'trough and cubicle' refer to? The restroom perhaps -- I thought the term for that was cludgie. I saw Killing Zoe the other day and was shocked to see a somewhat familiar face. Is that the same Gary Kemp that was in Spandau Ballet? It hit me when he was talking about dixieland music and how it has it's own culture. Sam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From samiam2 at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 02:15:02 1998 From: samiam2 at xxx.com (Sam Khater) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:15:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Guy Chadwick/Modern R Song and Baritone Voices Message-ID: <34BC1FA6.54C3@ix.netcom.com> Has anyone heard the scoop on Guy's (ex-House of Love) new solo album due out in a few weeks? Regarding Ian Curtis and Stuart Staples (and Stephen Merrit of Magnetic Fields), I've always thought they sounded similar. However, the lyrical content is quite different. Joy Division's 'Love Will Tear Us Apart' is romantic doom at its finest. BTW, how does 'Curtains' compare to the first two? I assume it's more of the same? David and Katrina - FYI, Siren (www.sirencd.com) has Modern Rock Song as being released on Jan 26th. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 02:33:39 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 21:33:39 EST Subject: Sinister: CENTURY OF FAKERS VIDEO Message-ID: <593488d.34bc2406@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-13 20:55:07 EST, rnorth at amos.co.uk writes: << ALL I CAN SAY IS - IF YOU WANNA SEE A B&S VIDEO THEN WATCH MTV ALTERNATIVE NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> :-( MTV in the U.S. no longer plays Alternative Nation. We still have 120 Minutes, though, but unfortunately instead of playing the kinds of video's they used to play in the eighties (rare gems like "Aikea-Guinea" or even an occasional Smiths video) they stick with "safer" ones like O****s, N* D***t and B**h (which they play 24/7 anyway - so why reserve this special time?) instead of (upcoming darlings!) like Belle and Sebastian or Magnetic Fields (do the MF's even have videos?) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 19:09:51 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:09:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song Release date? References: <01bd200a$56bb01e0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BBBBFF.1A1BAA49@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > >There is no official release dat yet, but hopefully once > the band have > >finished in the studio (first week of feb.) then they'll > put together > >the tracks for the EP and 3rd LP, and decide on some > release dates. > > > >it's trying to be patient ... > > > >cheers, > >Katrina. > > Strange, my friend Christine who works in Avalanche in > Ediburgh told me last > week they had a promo of Modern Rock Song delivered last > week! > > Keith. > Then she is a fibber and a pooh face! The last single was out, not out, shake it all about for ages as well. Personally I like it like that. Swapping release dates, like swapping instruments, is a fantastic idea and has a similar effect on record sales. It's a great gimmick. I don't think any of the above, it's just an excuse to tell Keith that I just sent him an electronic billet doux and had it came right back. "he wrote upon it" fatally flawed error or something. So, in short, The prog rock extravaganza is yet to appear, probably due to incompetence down at the Post Office. I'm sure it'll turn up soon. There was some other stuff but it was about Duke being undercover at the Manchester gigs, so I can't repeat it here or he might find out that we're all really disappointed that he didn't meet his public. Perhaps next time, eh Duke? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 19:50:49 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:50:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bootlegging from Vinyl References: <01bd203e$c9891f70$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BBC599.E5264AA6@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > >Further, just to comfort B&S and/or Jeepster, CD's mass > produced from a > Vinyl source would be inferior to those from the Master > >Tape unless a great > deal of money was spent trying to digitally remaster the > sound. Also, > cateran on chat made it known that >Cdroms, played on a > regual CD player > which lack the ability to oversample them, sound > noticeably infererior (if > one is an audiophile). > > Hmmm... I'm afraid this point doesn't seem to make much > sense. If a CD > player reads a single circuit on a CD and the sum of all > the bits on that > circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end of > that circuit then it > will skip. All oversampling CD players do is attempt to > read the circuit x > number of times in an attempt to get it correct before > actually playing it, > they will also skip if unable to match the checksum. > Either a CD will skip, > or it'll sound exactly the same as it did when initially > recorded, in the > same way that if you take a binary computer program and > splat a few zeroes > into the middle of the file, it's not likely to make the > program just > slightly worse, just completely and untterly shaft it. I > don't know where > this sort of stuff comes from, but there was an article a > few years ago that > stated that should you keep your CD's in a fridge, they'd > sound better! I quite agree Keith. > > > Frankly too, I'm quite surprised bootlegs of Tigermilk > aren't already > readily available. I had a look in Barrowlands in Glasgow > a few months ago > just out of interest, and there aren't even any tapes, > never mind CD's. > Is the secondhand porno mag stall still there? > Indeed. What got me thinking however, is the size of the > wages bill that B+S > must accrue. Mick's previous band I remember were paying > themselves 150 quid > a week or so living expenses, so if you extrapolate that > to Belle and > Sebastian they must be paying a weekly wages bill of 1120 > quid, this is > quite considerable - so on that evidence it's probably > about time Tigermilk > received a legitamate release or bankruptcy looms! Yes, I'm just listening to Fat Larry's Band, there were loads of them, and more than one of them was overweight. I wonder what wages they paid themselves? I didn't know bands had wages until quite recently. I thought they just piled the money up on a table, argued about it and split up.It's tempting to pretend to be above wondering what kind of money Belle and Sebastian are making, but if the truth be told I am a very nosey bastard. Next time anyone encounters a drunkenn band member, please ask them. Otherwise we don't know whether to hate their guts or not. I am listening to fat Larry because it's on Stax Funk - Get Up and Get Down, another compilation from the Ace group of labels. I don't think it counts as Northern Soul but it's a nice listen and contains some mindblowing photographs of what appear to be lunatics. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 19:25:53 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:25:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: other sounds(no B&S) References: <199801131121.LAA21646@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34BBBFC1.172265E9@colon.net.> Hopkins T wrote: > > For my part, my favourite soul section is the deep > stuff, slower and more > > emotional, just beautiful. Buy 'Dave Godin's Deep Soul > Treasures' (Kent), > > > > That's my tip. Mine too. Despite its ridiculous title, this is a really good album. It is subtitled "Taken From the Vaults...Volume 1". There is a picture of Dave Godin in the back of the booklet. He looks like an Open University lecturer. > > > > Sorry about the lack of B&S. > > Me too Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Jan 14 09:33:41 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:33:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I saw 'em first! Message-ID: >> You bastard, I saw Radiohead years ago when they were called 'On A > >>Friday' >> and they used to play the Arse & Ferret in Oxford on the last Friday on > >>the >> month. I've bought all their records on the day they came out and I hate > >>it >> when 'new' fans like you try to steal my glory. Radiohead belong to me - >> not you! > I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the face. It was dead funny. I wrote to radiohead and drew a picture of them, but they never wrote back. Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. Again, i wrote to radiohead and drew another picture of them but they never wrote back. Now that radiohead are famous, everytime i see them on tv i think they're laughing at me and my letters and my drawings. That thom boy is >a bully and a bastard. > chris P.S. Dr Paul, I have examined the photos of the Belle And Sebastian band closely and have constructed a masterplan.................... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 09:35:20 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:35:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping Message-ID: <01bd20cf$bb4ee1b0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >>2. Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. >>It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. >>Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully >>contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present. > >Hmm, I really do think that Radiohead fans just don't like music Yeah... but they do like whinging, sub-U2 songs and "metaphorical" videos about drowning 'n' stuff. Always find it amazing the amount of pain Thom Yorke looks like he's in when he's singing... I suppose he's exorcising his "inner demons" perhaps. Well I tell you, if I was in as much pain when I was singing a song, I'd just simply not do it! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 10:03:18 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:03:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I saw 'em first! Message-ID: <199801140937.JAA27526@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Chris wrote >>Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very >young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. Was that at the Venue, coz I would have been there among the more people?? I remember Thom going around handing out stickers (yay!!! - Belle and Sebastian stickers please!!) before the F&W came on. He recognised my mate as we were in the year below them at school (have I mentioned this before...) and said hello. He was a very polite young man and we wished him well. Had I known he was rebuffing the artistic efforts of his fans I'd have given "what for". B&S link.... The Frank and Walters came on (in orange dungarees for that demented play-group leader chic), picked up their instruments, bashed away at them for a while before stopping and exchanging instruments, get this - they were playing the wrong ones! I thought "this will never catch on"... Further B&S content... Just received an email from an old friend in Canada who I haven't seen for ages. Having found out from my homepage that I was into B&S he mentioned that they didn't do much for him but he had called his two new china fishes Belle and Sebastian. Then in what the British tabloids would doubtless dub a "shocking outburst" he went on to say "but I do *appreciate* having someone like Stuart around, if only to counteract the effect of bombastic morons like, say, Richard Ashcroft. " Truth will out! hot love Sebastian Johnston >---------- >From: Chris Leonard[SMTP:cleonard at xxx.COM] >Sent: 14 Jan 1998 09:33 >To: 'sinister at majordomo.net' >Subject: RE: Sinister: I saw 'em first! > >>> You bastard, I saw Radiohead years ago when they were called 'On A > >>>Friday' >>> and they used to play the Arse & Ferret in Oxford on the last Friday on > >>>the >>> month. I've bought all their records on the day they came out and I hate > >>>it >>> when 'new' fans like you try to steal my glory. Radiohead belong to me - >>> not you! >> >I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was >very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon >Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then >when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the >face. It was dead funny. > >I wrote to radiohead and drew a picture of them, but they never wrote >back. > >Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very >young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. > >Again, i wrote to radiohead and drew another picture of them but they >never wrote back. > >Now that radiohead are famous, everytime i see them on tv i think >they're laughing at me and my letters and my drawings. That thom boy is >>a bully and a bastard. >> >chris > >P.S. Dr Paul, I have examined the photos of the Belle And Sebastian band >closely and have constructed a masterplan.................... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 09:51:31 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:51:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Brian Hurst, he saw them first Message-ID: <01bd20d1$fdec7df0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was >very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon >Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then >when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the >face. It was dead funny. The strange thing is Chris, is that only last week I almost went through to see Annie Christian in Glasgow last week who it turns out were supporting a band called Fabulous too. This got me thinking to the tune that it couldn't have been Simon Dudfield's fabulous, could it... could it... I don't really know. What a bag of shite. Cheers, Keith. [Been toying with the idea of using "Sorry, no Belle and Sebastian content" as my signature, but figured that guys at work might get a bit confused!] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Wed Jan 14 10:21:13 1998 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 14 Jan 98 10:21:13 Subject: Sinister: The joy of Swells Message-ID: <9801141029.AA0424@notesgw.compuserve.com> I trust some of you will have joined me in reading Steven Wells' review in WH Smith's yesterday. When I was younger he used to put the fear of God into me but I'm a (bit) less in awe of people like him now. VIntage stuff though - for those who haven't seen it, he somehow contrives to blame the popularity of Belle & Sebastian's rotten, gutless namby-pamby ways on Tony Blair's election victory. Now I'm all for associating New Labour with many undesirable social trends, perhaps including the success of certain bands, but I just don't see how B&S fit into it. Or perhaps I am part of the enemy and can't see the wood for the trees. Anyway, Belle & Sebastian - too stupid for art school but clever enough to get into music college. Makes a catchy slogan, don't you think? The MM review was really very fair, on the other hand. Funny that the good (well, kind anyway) should go to Saturday's shambles while the Sunday matinee should get such a slating. So long, Nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 10:25:48 1998 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:25:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: usual rubbish... Message-ID: <01BD20D6.CB4AA980@manray.impressions-gallery.com> yummycats wrote: >I just bought Herb Alpert's "Going Places" album in a thrift store (one >dollar!) and listening to the song "More and More Amor," there's a trumpet >solo that sounds suspiciously like the trumpet solo in "beautiful". ahhhhhhh....... Herb Alpert!! (sorry, this is yet another reverie for a cheesy popmeister) what a dashing fellow he was (and so well turned out...) I have an album of his with a version of 'talk to the animals' from doctor doolittle on it. Its truly shit in a marvellous way. On the cover there is a photo of herb blowing his horn at a giraffe (ooeer!) who is gazing at his trumpet (double ooerr!). If you look really close, you can just see a currant bun sticking out of the end of his horn. What that man wouldn't do to attract the loving gazes of domesticated animals..... Honey wrote: >I won't even ask you all because >I know you will agree. I just wonder if we can get private access to the >tapes at the very least. yes please..... put my name on this list of the aggreived.... >>there was an article a few years ago = >>that >>stated that should you keep your CD's in a fridge, they'd sound better! > >Is Keith on crack or something? This isn't even in English. > >They smeared jam on them on 'Tomorrow's World'. I always thought it was a fried egg they ate off of it... Hey! new pedantic rock list!! What new bands of 97 do sinisterines like to EAT off? allright.... it was a bad joke... don't all rush at once.... love matlock (in bad humor) xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Jan 14 11:36:54 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:36:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I saw 'em first! Message-ID: I said > >>Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very >>young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. Then Hot Johnston said > >>Was that at the Venue, coz I would have been there among the more >>people?? I remember Thom going around handing out stickers (yay!!! - >>Belle and Sebastian stickers please!!) before the F&W came on. He >>recognised my mate as we were in the year below them at school (have I >>mentioned this before...) and said hello. It was defintely in King tuts this time, cos I've never been in the venue. It was just before Creep came out the first time. King Tuts really smells. Some people I know went to the venue dancing last year and said that they were the only two people in the building that didn't have mullets. Scary thought. I had a mini mullet when i went to see david lee roth. But don't tell anyone. >> He was a very polite young man >> and we wished him well. Had I known he was rebuffing the artistic >> efforts of his fans I'd have given "what for". I gave him what for by boycotting his records. That'll learn him. > >>B&S link.... >>The Frank and Walters came on (in orange dungarees for that demented >>play-group leader chic), picked up their instruments, bashed away at >>them for a while before stopping and exchanging instruments, get this - >>they were playing the wrong ones! I thought "this will never catch >>on"... Did the place fill up with tiny bubbles before they came on? B&S link.... Eh, can't think of one. Yes I can. Who pays Mick, Jeepster or the Band? I always fancied chaging my name to "Snatch". from Christopher "Snatch" Leonard > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 11:33:00 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:33:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: Troutfishing in Chorlton Cum Hardy In-Reply-To: <199801140923.JAA20772@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801140923.JAA20772@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34bc9600.8788319@email.mcmail.com> Jeez, What's going on? I'm now getting as many digests as I was getting mails two weeks ago. Don't you people ever sleep? Jessica wrote >I read in an old Seventeen magazine about some guy in the USA who changed >his name to Trout Fishing In America, because he loved Richard Brautigan's >stuff. And he changed it just in time for it to appear on his highschool >diploma. His friends call him Trout. Yes! Yes! Richard Brautigan rules! Go and read 'Tokyo-Montana Express' and then tell me I'm wrong. Yaz wrote >Following Tag's repeated request for us all to make love in London, Repeated? I only said it once. Are you calling me boring? I'm a pale and interesting redhead, so go tell that to your so called Plastic Population. Mark wrote >You bastard, I saw Radiohead years ago when they were called 'On A Friday' >and they used to play the Arse & Ferret in Oxford on the last Friday on the >month. I've bought all their records on the day they came out and I hate it >when 'new' fans like you try to steal my glory. Radiohead belong to me - >not you! Please stop reading the so-called funny pages in the music press because they make you sound like Steve Lamacq. Northy wrote >1. Bought Vanishing Point - Primal Scream. It was shite. Took it >back to Woolworths and said it was the wrong album. No questions >asked and I was fully refunded with CASH. > >2. Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. >It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. >Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully >contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present. He's really blown it now, hasn't he? >Imagine if God was on wheels? Or if he was just a dog? Northy's world is a strange and troubled one. >bye from the now accepted Northy (ta Tag!) You know you can push your luck too far, Sonny. Sam wrote >I'm familiar with some UK expressions, but what does the term 'licking >railings' in LLPJ mean? It's a euphemism for felching. It's obvious. >Has anyone heard the scoop on Guy's (ex-House of Love) new solo album >due out in a few weeks? Ah, Guy Chadwick. Who can forget his lyrical insights 'I slip through sand just like water and sand', 'it feels like summer, gosh my skin's so itchy' (that one was about Hiroshima, believe it or not), 'and now I know why I love my wife'. What a poet, what an artist, what a prick. Talking of poets, did anyone read about Jim Morisson being a habitual bed wetter - I haven't laughed so much since the 'Come to Daddy' video. Peter wrote >Then she is a fibber and a pooh face! Peter Miller is in his late twenties. >There was some other stuff but it was about Duke being undercover at the >Manchester gigs, so I can't repeat it here or he might find out that we're >all really disappointed that he didn't meet his public. Perhaps next time, >eh Duke? I gather that the Duke was too busy 'nibbling on Stuart Murdoch's vegetable burrito'. For the benefit of our American friends, this is also a euphemism. Love to all, Trout Sebastian McTaggart Miss Hoover, my face is on fire ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Wed Jan 14 11:55:40 1998 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley wilkinson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:55:40 +1000 Subject: Sinister: re:a northern slip... Message-ID: <34BCA7BC.111@gil.com.au> Matt Locke wrote: >>Maybe I should buy more. But buy what ? I don`t fancy going to seedy >>holiday camps and paying 100 quid for a single (or spinning on my back >>either to be honest !). Anyone have any great insights into the murky >>world of Northern Soul ? >A murky dredged darkly majestic like world it is. From what I have read >the band where in the throes of breaking up whlst recording A Northern >Soul. They ended up splitting for a while Lo and behold the title track >which is one of the most mind pummeling songs you're ever likely to hear is >about Noel Gallagher when he left Oasis for a brief period. [snip!] ah... slight misunderstanding here methinks... the original posting referred to Northern Soul as in rare 60's soul records played at clubs that dust the floor with talcum powder in order to let those feet glide....... Not A Northern Soul as in verve's second album... you must give the lad a break tho'.i'd not heard of northern soul until i'd joined this list (cripes!).. and being in australia - far, far away from where all the fun began, it's an easy enough mistake to make. shelley my cat's name is mittens ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Jan 14 11:49:47 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:49:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Brian Hurst, he saw them first Message-ID: I don't know if it's the same band, damn clever name though. If it is the same band someone probably punched him on the face. I remember seeing them on rapido years ago and their special gimmick was they had a fabulous mini. I don't mean like a really good one, i mean it was the fabulous-mobile, with"fabulous" spray painted all over it and they used to drive it about shouting "fabulous!" out of the window. Maybe that's an idea for B & S....They could call it the "Sebaticar" or something, and drive about telling truant children to get back to school. I really must do some work Cheery, Chris >---------- >From: Keith Watson[SMTP:keith at xxx.uk] >Sent: 14 January 1998 09:51 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Brian Hurst, he saw them first > >>I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was >>very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon >>Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then >>when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the >>face. It was dead funny. > > > >The strange thing is Chris, is that only last week I almost went through to >see Annie Christian in Glasgow last week who it turns out were supporting a >band called Fabulous too. This got me thinking to the tune that it couldn't >have been Simon Dudfield's fabulous, could it... could it... I don't really >know. What a bag of shite. > >Cheers, > Keith. > >[Been toying with the idea of using "Sorry, no Belle and Sebastian content" >as my signature, but figured that guys at work might get a bit confused!] > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Family.Lee at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 19:35:53 1998 From: Family.Lee at xxx.com (Edward Lee) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:35:53 -0800 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Did anyone see the Century of Fakers video on MTVs alternative nation? If so does anyone know what it's about? or maybe it's just meant to be surreal. I thought that the sign language and Karaoke effect were a nice touch. Oh yeah, it's just occured to me that "stars of track and field" could be a song about my life. See, when I was at school you were either good at sport or you were no-one. THis is basically what Stuart is lamenting isn't it? I may have got this wrong though. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Jan 14 11:20:08 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:20:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: iain banks, espedair street Message-ID: <8025658C.0042B6E8.00@bull.co.uk> um, don't know if anyone knows this but it's a book (andy makes relevant gestures with his hands) about a scottish band and their rise and fall and it was rather good although the musical style was too proggy for my taste. anyway, it's now a radio play (um, andy doesn't know the hand gestures for radio play) in 4 parts and, well, i've missed the first part but the rest of them are on radio 4 on thursday nights. d. weir is played by john gordon sinclair (gregory's girl) (iain himself is as scottish as scottish can be and v. friendly given the twice i've spoken to him) and vocals are by monica queen. there, a B&S link... am just about to start on typing the gig reports in today's papers. i'll start on the nme one and post it when i've done. if anyone wants to do the (better) mm one then feel free... i'll post them here and then put them on the web page along with the pictures that are currently on paul's page. but i'll leave it a week or so so as to not piss the music papers off... andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Jan 14 11:51:22 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:51:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nme review of manchester Message-ID: <8025658C.0042EBF9.00@bull.co.uk> Nicely jumpered skinny students suck feverishly on white-pack Silk Cut surrogate tits and titter tweely at every feeble onstage witticism. Oh! It's all so oh-so coy and warm and happy-clappy cosy! This ever-so-slappable crowd of shit-eating indie-schmindie sheep are apparently not even slightly pissed off that they've had to queue outside in the freezing rain for over an hour (while a B&S employee tossed them compensatory ice-creams). "Integrity seems to be the key word," mumbles singer Stuart Murdoch (apropos absolutely f-ing nothing) to general laughter and a smattering of clapping. "Wanky, half-arsed, cackhanded and utterly insulting amateurism," would be closer to the f-ing mark (don't piss on me and tell me it's raining, twat). This is the matinee show. Belle & Sebastian have sold out Manchester's amazing Victorian town hall twice in one day. The perform in the round, the stage a speaker-stacked black modernist slab slapped in the exact centre of a stunning gothic-arched and gold-leafed beige-stone Christmas cake. The acoustics are thus totally f-ed and the insultingly desultory attempts at audience communication (during the frequent equipment breakdowns) reduced to mere whispered mumblings. And yet, despite the fact that Belle & Sebastian's sole trick is to combine piss-poor sub-Don McLean lyrics with nicked Kirsty MacColl riffs, there is the merest whiff of real magic here. Even the most cynical folkophobic would find it hard not to twitch and shudder with near sexual pleasure at the throbbing muscle layered upon tracks like "The Stars Of Track And Field" and "The Fox In The Snow" (the recorded versions of which remain puke-inducingly whimsical and twee). But it's never enough to overcome the overwhelming stench of smug, cutesy-wutesy, mumsy-wumsy, Jack Straw-approved suburban shite. Manchester Town Hall is an over-the-top, totally in-your-face and utterly awesome shrine to late-Victorian bourgeois triumphalism. Today it showcases a band who, more than any other, epitomise the tediously understated, wilfully inadequate and teeth-grindingly irritating school of aesthetically neutered and ideologically castrated middle-class, too-thick-for-art-school Blair Rock. A punter, seeing a hack scribble furiously, approaches and demands that NME doesn't compare Belle & Sebastian to "Felt, Nick Cave, The Smiths..." and a whole load of shit anti--rock bands because "that would be lazy". OK, how about The Carpenters without the camp? Burt Bacharach without the balls? Jonathan Richman without th jokes? Crowded House without the incisive lyrical insights? Or maybe The Velvet Underground without the tunes, looks, attitude, politics, style, asthetics, vision, talent, charisma, sunglasses, black turtle-neck sweaters or f-ing drugs? That do you? I mean, you seem so easily pleased. Steven Wells (andy clutches his handbag in front of him and goes "oooooooo-ooooooooooooo") ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:39:36 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:39:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie Message-ID: Hello all you people. I am extremely worried about certain members of the list who appear to be showing symptoms of technical competence and awareness of mechanical issues in relation to music recording systems: <> This is very scary, and should be stopped as soon as possible, preferably by electro-shock "therapy". Or with huge amounts of psycho-repressive drugs. Or something. On the subject of mental health, did anyone apart from me and my friend Charlotte watch or remember the series Taking Over The Asylum which was on a couple of years ago on BBC 2? For those who didn't, it was about a double-glazing salesman who was also an amateur radio DJ who got relegated to the post of spare-time Station Head at a mental hospital in Glasgow, and the various japes (suicide, job loss, Spike Milligan) which ensued. I just mention it because a)it was fantashtic; b)it had a kind of B&S feel to it, now that I come to think about it, in the sort of hopelessly grim romanticism which we all know and love. Regarding the Albert Hall: > There are also choir seats and some really bad sightline seats which > you > can't really sell. > >>I KNOW! I was in the Schools Prom in 1996 (ah, when I was but a wee A-level student. How time flies) and the choir I was in was placed in those selfsame choir stalls (not unnaturally) which proceeded to terrify us: we were very high up, we were next to the bass organ pipes (pretty fuckin' loud, since you ask), the leg-room is cripplingly absent, and we were all in permanent danger of leaning too far out while standing up to sing and falling right out of the bastards. These pieces of furniture are NOT comfortable places to be, take my word for it, darlings. Having said that, however, the Hall itself is a lovely place, although I'm not quite sure what purpose the giant ceramic mushrooms suspended from the ceiling serve. > Hmm, I really do think that Radiohead fans just don't like music > >>Thank you very much, mister. I personally hate all tunefulness, truth and beauty. I only like eardrum-shattering squeals and strange clankings sounds, and would much prefer it if all pop music vocals were done by the computerised voice from Fitter, Happier. Then, oh if only, the world would be a much better place. Oh, and it goes without saying that I revile Belle & Sebastian too. Obviously. I'll just go off and drown some kittens now shall I, with Pablo Honey playing in the background. > If one must decide which cartoon characters the members of Belle and > Sebastian have a resemblance to, then it recently occurred to me how > much > Stuart M. reminds me of Tintin, the reporter. > >>No no no! Stuart is the cartoon Sebastian from the 80s series, still looking for his mum and getting into amusing situations with circuses and the like, > and the Dog On Wheels is > Snowy > >>OBVIOUSLY, it's Belle, the Pyreneean Mountain dog from the series. Good grief, have you no soul? People have written to the list about a 70s live-action series called Belle & Sebastian, which I, not being born until 1978, did not glimpse. Was the later cartoon series based on the live-action one, or is it a particularly spooky coincidence? HoneyPaul, great online photties of the band at Manchester. Mmm, I never knew looking up La Murdoch's nostrils would be so alluring... Are there going to be more pictures? I particularly want to see the lauded vixen Mick, and also Wee Chris's pantaloons. Anyway, I believe I'm supposed to be going down to the darkroom to develop some pictures of a wall or something, so I'd better go now. Oh, can anyone recommend a starter album of Scott Walker? Neil Hannon does sound awfully like him, doesn't he? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:45:29 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:45:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie Message-ID: > ---------- > From: ELIZABETH DAPLYN > Sent: 14 January 1998 12:39 > To: 'sinister at majordomo.net' > Subject: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie > > Hello all you people. I am extremely worried about certain > members of the list who appear to be showing symptoms of technical > competence and awareness of mechanical issues in relation to music > recording systems: > > < the bits on that circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end > of that circuit then it will skip. All oversampling CD players do is > attempt to read the circuit a number of times in an attempt to get it > correct before actually playing it, they will also skip if unable to > match the checksum.>> > > This is very scary, and should be stopped as soon as possible, > preferably by electro-shock "therapy". Or with huge amounts of > psycho-repressive drugs. Or something. > On the subject of mental health, did anyone apart from > me and my friend Charlotte watch or remember the series Taking Over > The Asylum which was on a couple of years ago on BBC 2? For those who > didn't, it was about a double-glazing salesman who was also an amateur > radio DJ who got relegated to the post of spare-time Station Head at a > mental hospital in Glasgow, and the various japes (suicide, job loss, > Spike Milligan) which ensued. I just mention it because > a)it was fantashtic; > b)it had a kind of B&S feel to it, now that I come to think > about it, in the sort of hopelessly grim romanticism which we all know > and love. > > Regarding the Albert Hall: > > There are also choir seats and some really bad sightline seats > which you > can't really sell. > > >>I KNOW! I was in the Schools Prom in 1996 (ah, when I was but a wee > A-level student. How time flies) and the choir I was in was placed in > those selfsame choir stalls (not unnaturally) which proceeded to > terrify us: we were very high up, we were next to the bass organ pipes > (pretty fuckin' loud, since you ask), the leg-room is cripplingly > absent, and we were all in permanent danger of leaning too far out > while standing up to sing and falling right out of the bastards. > These pieces of furniture are NOT comfortable places to be, take my > word for it, darlings. > Having said that, however, the Hall itself is a lovely place, > although I'm not quite sure what purpose the giant ceramic mushrooms > suspended from the ceiling serve. > > Hmm, I really do think that Radiohead fans just don't like music > > >>Thank you very much, mister. I personally hate all tunefulness, > truth and beauty. I only like eardrum-shattering squeals and strange > clankings sounds, and would much prefer it if all pop music vocals > were done by the computerised voice from Fitter, Happier. Then, oh if > only, the world would be a much better place. Oh, and it goes without > saying that I revile Belle & Sebastian too. Obviously. I'll just go > off and drown some kittens now shall I, with Pablo Honey playing in > the background. > > If one must decide which cartoon characters the members of > Belle and > Sebastian have a resemblance to, then it recently occurred to me > how much > Stuart M. reminds me of Tintin, the reporter. > > >>No no no! Stuart is the cartoon Sebastian from the 80s series, > still looking for his mum and getting into amusing situations with > circuses and the like, > > and the Dog On Wheels is > Snowy > > >>OBVIOUSLY, it's Belle, the Pyreneean Mountain dog from the series. > Good grief, have you no soul? > People have written to the list about a 70s live-action series > called Belle & Sebastian, which I, not being born until 1978, did not > glimpse. Was the later cartoon series based on the live-action one, > or is it a particularly spooky coincidence? > > HoneyPaul, great online photties of the band at Manchester. Mmm, I > never knew looking up La Murdoch's nostrils would be so alluring... > Are there going to be more pictures? I particularly want to see the > lauded vixen Mick, and also Wee Chris's pantaloons. > > Anyway, I believe I'm supposed to be going down to the darkroom to > develop some pictures of a wall or something, so I'd better go now. > > Oh, can anyone recommend a starter album of Scott Walker? Neil Hannon > does sound awfully like him, doesn't he? > Sorry, I just realised I sent that off without my name or anything on the bottom, because the arseing AutoSignature on the college network is buggered. I've just had to create a new one. Ho hum. ByeBye, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ******************************* The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep. Robert Frost ******************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Wed Jan 14 12:39:00 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:39:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: <199801132327.XAA17364@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BCB1E4.6B9F@virgin.net> Northy wrote: > To all at Jeepster who think this is immoral (If you do - I dunno?) I'm sorry to pick on Northy, but I think this has to be said ... When David is talking about bootlegging etc., that is him speaking, and as he keeps on saying, does NOT necessarily represent what Jeepster think. It is his own personal opinion, and whether I agree with him or not (I refuse to say anything for fear of being incriminated against!) has nothing to do with Jeepster. David and I were both fans before he started the fanclub, and that was running a full six months before I started work at Jeepster. My friends back home will tell you I never believed in home taping when I was at school, as i didn't want the artists to lose ... they in turn managed to convince me that they weren't going to find out about these new bands i was going bonkers over (names withheld to protect my previous musical taste), without me letting them listen, and then for them to go out and purchase the albums themselves. Which is what i think David wants to do ... (sorry to Paul and everyone else if you're getting fed up with this thread) cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Wed Jan 14 12:38:57 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:38:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: CENTURY OF FAKERS VIDEO References: <199801140029.AAA23616@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BCB1E1.CF4@virgin.net> Northy wrote: > Video: > > The Band (I assume) in various states of kissing with their lads and > lasses. Short excerpts of a young women using sign language to > translate bits of the lyrics which appear on the bottom of the > screen. A bloke with a beard features heavily in the video - who is > he? Ummm, Isobel is doing the sign language, and all the people snogging aren't band members - sorry! The only shots of the band, are the group of people standing outside a venue (Sarah with her Boba Fett mask on!), Chris lighting a fag for Sandy - he's the guy with the beard ... he works at Java (which part of the vid was shot in ... making cafe latte's with Isobel wandering around with angel wings on) and is also a solo artist (i think, correct me someone ...) around Glasgow who writes extraordinarily (sp?) witty tunes. Neil (not strictly a band memeber, but hey, who's counting) is the one at the end putting the money in the kissing toy thingy, and Ciara, cover star of "...Sinister" is one of the snogging couples. that's all folks... Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Jan 14 12:38:11 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:38:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: nme review of manchester Message-ID: Dear "nicely jumpered skinny students", I just laughed my surrogate tits off. Doesn't he know everyone needs a bosom for a pillow? Go on, who was the whispering punter? Honey, supporting the "Chris Leonard for Star in Their Eyes Johnny Mathis" Campaign -- Really, this time: Smithers, release the hounds. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plastik at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 12:51:12 1998 From: plastik at xxx.com (dina passman) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 07:51:12 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie References: Message-ID: <34BCB4C0.2368@erols.com> ELIZABETH DAPLYN wrote: > Oh, can anyone recommend a starter album of Scott Walker? i know i will offend some by saying this, but the walker brothers kick scott's solo ass by a mile. (i have yet to hear the jacques brel record-so hold your tongues!) my advice > the walker brothers compilation called "after the lights go out" - fabulous... your dedicated friend > dina p.s. people, leave dave kitchen alone about the bootlegging. it's tired. might i also add the radiohead non-debate to this list of boring things??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:48:23 1998 From: M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk (M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 12:48:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: Northern Soul Message-ID: <9800148848.AA884811803@ccgw4.lse.ac.uk> There's a bit of confusion over what is northern soul, so here's an explanation for whoever may be interested... Popular opinion has northern soul as the description for the thousands of Tamla imitators of the mid to late 60s. The scene, as such, started in London's Soho clubs in the mid 60s, playing mainly Motown. However, as is the way with things in London, the scene was a fad and soon dissipated, largely due to the growing dominance of heavy rock which killed off a lot of the mod scene, and which placed a rather over zealous importance on serious music. At the time, Sgt Pepper shifted the emphasis from singles to albums, live music was thought superior to discos, and an audience for rock - which called soul music idiot dancing music - was catered for by colleges with gig venues. But that was the south. Fans with a feverish passion for soul took the scene to the northern clubs in Stoke, Blackburn, Wigan and Manchester. A cloumnist on Blues and soul magazine, Dave Godwin, noticed this change and christened the movement northern soul. The increasingly popular clubs couldn't survive by playing the same records week in week out. DJs (such as Ian Levine, much later producer of Take That records) clamoured to get the latest imports to keep the punters dancing. The next step was to go to America to buy up stocks of unsold records in warehouses. Countless gems were unearthed, creating the rare and expensive northern single, typically in the sub-Tamla genre. By the turn of the decade, the northern scene became divided as certain DJs diversified to include some funk in their sets. This helped keep the scene fresh, but the, er, funky flavas aren't considered as northern classics with hindsight; the staple diet of northern soul remains naked passion, blind devotion and, most importantly, a danceable beat. Indeed, the 70s saw a host of contemporary floorshakers and heartbreakers make the grade in the clubs. Mods have always been part of the northern scene, with their competitiveness (having the latest import; DJs would even put white card over the record label as it played so no-one could find out what it was and try and buy one), their love of smart fashions and speed to keep them up all night at the Wigan Casino. Most northern soul is American, though there is a stack of British classics, but the scene is British. It is coincidental that the major production bases for northern soul were in the northern cities of America, such as New York, Detroit and Chicago. Southern soul is a different breed, a geopgraphical description for slower, more gospel-influenced soul. Crossovers do exist, of course, including one of the greatest northern numbers ever, Ann Sexton's You've Been Gone Too Long. On a different note - Guy Chadwick once sang "I don't know why I love you, your face is like a foreign food". It's crap and it doesn't even rhyme. Ben ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lucy.munro at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:52:12 1998 From: lucy.munro at xxx.uk (LUCY C MUNRO) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:52:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tintin and record shops Message-ID: Stuart M. can't be Tintin, because it's a well known fact that Jimmy Somerville is the Belgian sleuth, and there's only room for one. On exchanges in Record shops, a friend of mine usually says that he was given them as presents but already had one & I think that's worked so far. I managed to get the Virgin Megastore on Oxford Street to exchange a 12 inch single that I'd bought but someone then gave me the next day as a congratulations present - naturally I kept the one he gave me & took back the other. There's a lovely story about someone who collected coupons from an lp for a free 7 which you had to send off for (maybe by the Clash?) by repeatedly taking the record back and exchanging it, being very careful to get a different assistant each time. He got enough for a good number of the singles & then gave them out at his college in the spirit of evangelism that overtakes us all sometimes. Lucy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 13:42:59 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:42:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: nme review of manchester In-Reply-To: <8025658C.0042EBF9.00@bull.co.uk> Message-ID: Stephen Wells is a twat. That's all. Stuart Belle Gardiner P.S. You don't think he might have been bitter because he was made to pay for his own ticket do you? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Jan 14 13:50:28 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:50:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: mm review of manchester Message-ID: <8025658C.004C1DD2.00@bull.co.uk> People just don't like Belle & Sebastian, they're hopelessly devoted to them. Among tonight's collections of hipsters, Habitat squares, C86 revivalists and out-patients, there are people who've trekked from America* and Japan. Why? Because the Belle & Sebastian songbook is crammed with tales of feckless idealists who, although hemmed in by boorish reality, demand the earth. We've a disquieting sense that they harbour the sane, giddy romantic part of us that age has whittled away. And they make our compromised spirits soar anew. We expect tonight to merely, if deliriously, confirm what we already know - that we love them more than life itself. And, bless their enigmatic Scottish socks, they've tried to make it A Special Experience. Hence the venue, a gilt-edged grand hall, and the following day's matinee performance. It's not quite Spike Island, but it's getting there. As opener "Put The Book Back On The Shelf" stumbles to a close, though, we're already beginning to wonder if we've fallen for a band we never really knew. There should be pandemonium, voices punching through the rafters, but the painfully quiet PA means that no one even murmurs. Stuart Murdoch attempts a shimmy during a jauntier "I Don't Love Anyone" and a few people take his lead. But it's hopefully self-conscious. During the interminable breaks between songs, as instruments are swapped and beers retrieved, there's utter silence. This reverence, or crippling awkwardness, wholly dissipates any gathering excitement. At time, as the band talk amongst themselves, it's like we're unwelcome guests in their rehearsal room. Gigs by bands that act as magnets for rock's outsiders have traditionally been wildly celebratory affairs; they're about bonding and blossoming. But nothing encourages that here, especially not eight new songs in a 14-song set. There are some fun moments though, such as Stevie ending his spectacularly spastic Orange Juice-esque solo during "Dylan" by playing the guitar with his teeth, but the cheekily charismatic bunch we'd expected are absent. They look baffled by our presence and often panicked at their own lack of cohesion. Perhaps they should, hey, practise a little and relax. There is a middle ground between The Pastels and M People, you know. It is possible, among the debris, to glimpse greatness. "Photo Jenny" and newie "Dirty Dream" hint at Belle & Sebastian's oft overlooked Northern-tinged pop potential. "Chick Factor", even with its wildly out-of-tune Mellotron, rolls and swells like you're falling in love - the Velvets at their most preciously Fisher Price. "Is It Wicked?" (sung by a terrified Isobel) is gorgeous and the closing "Rollercoaster Ride" features Stuart's voice at its strong, plaintive best. Marry this with some beautiful crescendos of Marr-ish guitar and mournful trumpet flourishes and it's something you're going to treasure for life. On vinyl. Manchester has rarely witnessed such embittered post-gig arguments. Indeed, the clap-happy souls, chuffed simply to be in the same room as their heroes, are undeterred But we, the sane, expected a gig (albeit a roughly hewn one) that would become a byword for everything uniquely elevating about going to watch a band. Instead, we got a rehearsal for a sixth-form revue. Comedy, someone once said, is the gap between expectation and reality. Clearly, they'd never seen Belle & Sebastian play live. Tony Naylor phew, so much typing. good practice for the chat room i guess... andy *hey, bun, they're talking about you 8) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 13:53:08 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?stephen_trouss=E9?=) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:53:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: a shit-eating indie-schmindie sheep writes... Message-ID: <199801141349.NAA07880@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> More stuff: 1 Ahhh.. the old 'licking railings' conundrum raises its head once more. I always thought it was something to do with 'Irn Bru' which our scottish brethren persist in insisting is made from 'girders'... If you're going to _drink_ bits of metal, what harm can a quick lick do? 2 On University Challenge last night, Jeremy Paxman told us that Saint Lucy is always depicted carrying a plate of eyeballs. Can her earthly representative, Tag, confirm this? 3 Guy Chadwick - what a tosser pt4: "It's going to be a long hot summer/gonna stay in gonna be a bummer" 4 I think a B&Smobile is a fantastic idea... they could drive around like those crazy kids in the new Levis ads. Incidentally, I've discovered that the song from that ad is by The Lilys... is the album worth buying, anyone? 5 Following on from Andy's recommendation of the Iain Banks radio play, did you know that BBC Scotland are screening an adaptation of Alan Warner's "Morvern Callar" this year? If anybody hasn't already read this book, I urge them to buy it now. It's like Catcher in the Rye crossed with, um, an Arab Strap song. Steer clear of the follow-up, "These Demented Lands", however. Because it's crap. 6 I'm grateful to everybody for all the Northern Soul info. How educational! We ought to get some kind of Arts Council grant... 7 S Wells wrote: "This ever-so-slappable crowd of shit-eating indie-schmindie sheep ". Whaddya say we all pop round to Kings Reach Tower and do some slapping of our own, eh gang? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------ The Poetry Society Website http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 13:38:51 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:38:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Potato head + Ultrasound Message-ID: <01bd20f1$bfbca3a0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Dear "nicely jumpered skinny students", > >I just laughed my surrogate tits off. Doesn't he know everyone needs >a bosom for a pillow? I've never been able to figure exactly why Steven Wells has a job at a music paper, and not at the likes of Living Marxism, I'd personally get embarrassed at trying to tie in his own brand of "politics" (i.e. opposing absolutely anything anyone in a position of power does) into pieces of music that's got nothing to do with party politics. He makes a point occassionally that all music is political which in a sense may well be true, but it certainly isn't party political, a topical example being Ian Brown's new single which appears to be about the conquest of space being used for military purposes - would swells therefore point out that Brown is a communist perhaps? (Unlikely - cause he's the only one with the moral highground). Oh and remember kids... vote for Scargill [crap attempt at irony - remember, my degree's in computer science] Oh dear, I'm ranting again... right two more things. 1. It appears that Ciara McLaverty is in fact the cover star on Tigermilk and Dog on Wheels. Well that about clears that one up. 2. There was a tape on the NME a month ago or so which I immediately threw in the bin without listening to as they're normally shite, however my mate Kev last night played me a track off it by Ultrasound which was fucking brilliant. If anyone's got the tape out there, go and have a listen if you haven't done already cause it's great! Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 13:42:50 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:42:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Vorsprung Durch Technik Message-ID: <01bd20f2$4e7c8600$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Technical competence > < the bits on that circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end > of that circuit then it will skip. All oversampling CD players do is > attempt to read the circuit a number of times in an attempt to get it > correct before actually playing it, they will also skip if unable to > match the checksum.>> Oops, indeed I should keep this sort of shite in the comfort of my own home. This was more of a reply to the original point about CD's sounding worse was made by one Cateran of Glasgow who's got a strange fetish about taking the piss out of people who aren't as "knowledgable" as he is on matters technical, which I'd say is pretty sad for a 35 year old. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:19:18 1998 From: S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk (Stuart Maclean) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:19:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: Piss Poor Band in the NME Message-ID: <21274.199801141419@penelope.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Saw in the NME this week a bit about some bunch of losers whose "sole trick is to combine piss-poor sub-Don Maclean lyrics with nicked Kirsty MacColl riffs". Well, I was always the world's biggest Don Maclean AND Kirsty MacColl fan, so that must some damned fine band... ;-)))))))))))))))))) Oh, and hi to Nessie! Stu, who's still in search of a Sunday night (audio) tape. Any offers? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:19:45 1998 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:19:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: nme review of manchester Message-ID: I am amused at the frequent references in the nme article to 'twee' 'mumsy-wumsy' and 'warm and happy-clappy cosy'......after all, here is a 'writer' who submits his work to a rag that needs to translate FUCKING into F-ING for him. with that in mind, presumably he was dispatched to the matin�e so as he could avoid those nasty dangerous manchester streets after dark. why is wells' writing so well regarded anyway? that article reads like the work of some retard sounding-off in my local 'cauliflower-ear' boozer. what a f-pig. -Rod ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Jan 14 14:34:57 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:34:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Photees In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, Honey wrote: > At: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/Manchester , any more What happened to b+s6.jpg, though? A nation demands to know! Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dietribe: n. All the 'daily specials' you allow a waiter to reel off | even though you know what you want ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Jan 14 14:36:20 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:36:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Photees In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Rod Begbie wrote: > What happened to b+s6.jpg, though? A nation demands to know! Too pornograhic. Bog shot at aftershow. Tag and Hugh. Nuff said. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:51:40 1998 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:51:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: i dunno, couldn't think of one Message-ID: I saw the video for 'Century of Fakers' last night on MTV's Alternative Nation, it was pretty mad...what i want to know is... ..How many vids have the band now made??? and when they do appear is it possible to have advance warning?? Oh and on that NME review of the gigs its really not worth worrying about. For a long time i've done nothing but slag off the likes of NME and Melody Maker(thought i'd put them in as well)and i will continue to do so. How the hell these papers sell is beyond me. Pure pants Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Jan 14 15:03:06 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (The Lovely Debbie McGeeeee) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:03:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: re: how high? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 13 Jan 1998, GR Clarkson wrote: > As for tapings of Tigermilk, what do the band think? I would assume that > anyone who goes to the trouble of asking for a copy from this list would be > more than willing to buy the said album if it was ever re-released, it's > just the only way of listening . This would be a major argument, with respect to "loss of earnings". Are the band losing anything by the fact that I own a taped copy of Tigermilk? No. The day it's re-released, I'll pays me money and get a copy. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | By day I'm just a sad, lonely geek. But by night I'm... asleep. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:24:22 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:24:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: a shit-eating indie-schmindie sheep writes... Message-ID: <01bd20f8$1bf32620$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >3 Guy Chadwick - what a tosser pt4: "It's going to be a long hot >summer/gonna stay in gonna be a bummer" What about the amazing clanger : "Destroy the heart she said, I'm gonna bake you a loaf of bread" Keith. Actually : I love the House of Love and don't really care if he's a tosser or not (which he evidently is) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 15:28:01 1998 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:28:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Letter to PBS Message-ID: <01BD20D7.17CCD800@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> Everyone who, at least lives in this great land of the free and home of the brave, should write to those bastards on PBS and DEMAND that they put the PBS sessions back on. It seems like every band they have there has either been around for 40 years, or has commercially crossed-over. The only true independent and contemporary band they had as of yet was Tindersticks, and they didn't even do so great a job. That makes PBS (didn't they show the Fleetwood Mac reunion tour and the incredibly pathetic music of John Tesch) just as bad as any of the major networks and that includes FOX. What will they have next, the Kathy Lee christmas special? What are they worried about? Higher ratings? Now I'm sure a lot of you guys are frequent contributors to PBS (I'm not) so you can use that as weapon when you write your letters. We will get them back on!! Matt PS The magnetic fields do indeed have videos. I believe most feature some sort of unisexual character that might be Stepen Merritt's current lover. I have "Born on a Train" and "Strange Powers" myself on the MUNCH II video compilation ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 15:46:47 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:46:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: we get knocked down and we get up again In-Reply-To: <199801141238.MAA22872@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801141238.MAA22872@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34bcddd5.162469@email.mcmail.com> It's so bloody predictable... Look NME sent Seething Wells (ex-people's poet) to review B&S. That it is was a slap on the wrists for their naughty unco-operative behaviour goes without saying - they wheel him out, pathetically and patronisingly in love with his 4-real class consciousness, doing a job they're too gutless or witless to do themselves. I don't blame SW ... he was never going to understand, let alone like, Belle and Sebastian, eight middle class kids playing non-rock music, they occupy a completely different world. It's like sending me to review Pavarotti. Maybe Belle and Sebastian don't 'do' politics in the conventional sense of the word, well, why should they, it would be absurd - they write about what they know. SW makes a lot of people laugh with his sardonic prose, I understand. Not me, I don't intend to be 'grateful' for the fact that he's better than most of the other NME writers. So the review, yeah, it was funny ... but only in the way that Mr Abusing is funny. And Stephen Wells is serious. Steven Wells wrote: >Nicely jumpered skinny students suck feverishly on white-pack Silk Cut >surrogate tits Hey! Amateur psychology. Stephen is dead hard so he gets through twenty lighters a day. >and titter tweely at >every feeble onstage witticism. Oh! It's all so oh-so coy >and warm and happy-clappy cosy! This ever-so-slappable crowd >of shit-eating indie-schmindie sheep Look Mummy - I can swear. >"Integrity seems to be the key word," mumbles singer Stuart >Murdoch (apropos absolutely f-ing nothing) to general >laughter and a smattering of clapping. "Wanky, half-arsed, >cackhanded and utterly insulting amateurism," would be >closer to the f-ing mark (don't piss on me and tell me it's >raining, twat). More grown up swearing. Big boy! >And yet, despite the fact that Belle & Sebastian's sole >trick is to combine piss-poor sub-Don McLean lyrics with >nicked Kirsty MacColl riffs, I like this, it's the sort of thing that gets indignant earnest fans writing in saying 'Were you even at the same gig as me?' >there is the merest whiff of >real magic here. Even the most cynical folkophobic would >find it hard not to twitch and shudder with near sexual >pleasure at the throbbing muscle layered upon tracks like >"The Stars Of Track And Field" and "The Fox In The Snow" Awww ... see, he can see both sides. 'Fox in the snow' - throbbing? Were you even at the same gig as me? >(the recorded versions of which remain puke-inducingly >whimsical and twee). The t-word again. >But it's never enough to overcome the >overwhelming stench of smug, cutesy-wutesy, mumsy-wumsy, >Jack Straw-approved suburban shite. Oh God, he's off... >Manchester Town Hall is an over-the-top, totally >in-your-face and utterly awesome shrine to late-Victorian >bourgeois triumphalism. Oh dear, Northy won't like that bit. >Today it showcases a band who, more >than any other, epitomise the tediously understated, >wilfully inadequate and teeth-grindingly irritating school >of aesthetically neutered and ideologically castrated >middle-class, too-thick-for-art-school Blair Rock. Personally I was much too clever for Art School. >A punter, seeing a hack scribble furiously, approaches and >demands that NME doesn't compare Belle & Sebastian to "Felt, >Nick Cave, The Smiths..." and a whole load of shit >anti--rock bands because "that would be lazy". Oh God, which idiot said that? Talk about red rag to a bull. >OK, how about The Carpenters without the camp? Burt >Bacharach without the balls? Jonathan Richman without th >jokes? Crowded House without the incisive lyrical insights? That's a joke, right? >Or maybe The Velvet Underground without the tunes, looks, >attitude, politics, style, asthetics, vision, talent, >charisma, sunglasses, black turtle-neck sweaters or f-ing >drugs? Clever stuff. Especially the 'f-ing drugs'. >That do you? I mean, you seem so easily pleased. Well, I can't tell you how sorry I am for being middle-class and university educated, not to mention breast fed. Thank God, I didn't go to public school. Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nrbqlover at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 15:59:46 1998 From: Nrbqlover at xxx.com (Nrbqlover) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:59:46 EST Subject: Sinister: well's review Message-ID: <2f15b1d7.34bce0f4@aol.com> i'm a little overwhelmed at how everyone is taking steve wells' review of the band. so he slagged them off-so what? for those of you who want B&S to forever remain "indie", his review could help dissuade the "masses" from buying into our gang. for those(like me) who want this band to succeed beyond all expectations, it's further proof that the band's decision to ignore the press is the right way to go. i mean wells should eat shit and die but it's not gonna stop me from preaching to the uninitiated(latest convert:friday night dinner companion, ex-guitarist with early eighties la punk band the flyboys, who called me yesterday after buying IYFS and ALL THREE EP'S desperate for a "Tigermilk" tape.) We can do this ourselves-we don't need some p.r.-humping illiterate rock scribe to help!! clem lane nrbqlover at aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 16:08:18 1998 From: S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk (Stuart Maclean) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:08:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: a shit-eating indie-schmindie sheep writes... In-Reply-To: <01bd20f8$1bf32620$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> (message from Keith Watson on Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:24:22 -0000) References: <01bd20f8$1bf32620$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <24535.199801141608@penelope.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Hmm, I suspect it might be exactly that half-baked ;-), more a case of "very soon we will quite dead". Didn't this crop up in the NME Bismallah (naff lyrics corner) many moons ago? Still, I'm with Keith, they were bloody good in their time, ahhhh remember Brighton Event May 90, or sleeping in a mate's car (mini!) after a show in Guildford, awesome shows both ... oh and course Reading Festival 89 for which I have a great audio tape.. Stu, now showing his age ;-( ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 13:32:54 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:32:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Northy wrote : Message-ID: <01BD20F0.EEBDD4E0@pc7628> >2. Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. >It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. >Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully >contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present You what ? How can you rant and rant and rant on and on and on about Radiohead ( on the Bellend Sebastian list, one might point out) and have a poke at Joy Division is beyond me. In comparison, listning to Joy Division makes me positively HAPPY ! This is going to upset a fair few people, but the way I see it is, the chorus of every Radiohead song might just as well read : "Oh God ! I'm so hard done by. I use to be a student you know. I used to study art by paedophiles...at Exeter University, and take lots and lots of bad drugs, and now I look like one... Oh God ! I'm so hard done by.... Waaaaaiiiiiillllllll....Waaaiiiillllll." Starts some horrendous guitar solo, with at least half a dozen wrong notes by some geezer with a rank haircut I realise this is bordering on libelous and of course wouldn't really say things about Thom Yorke that I couldn't substantiate. How they can ever be compared to Pink Floyd though ??? Well it's a crime. I'm obviously getting just a tadge too old ! -- Adrian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 16:16:25 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:16:25 EST Subject: Sinister: CENTURY OF FAKERS VIDEO Message-ID: <48b1f861.34bce4db@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-13 21:48:21 EST, Yummycats at aol.com writes: << like Belle and Sebastian or Magnetic Fields (do the MF's even have videos?) >> Yes. I have two videos on this compilation put out by the Drive-In Records people in the USA and an Australian label in. . um....Australia. It's called Munch II, I think. It's a cool comp. Also has Hydroplane and Cat's Miaow videos on it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 16:30:51 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:30:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: well's review Message-ID: <01bd2109$c7251380$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >i'm a little overwhelmed at how everyone is taking steve wells' review of the >band. so he slagged them off-so what? for those of you who want B&S to forever >remain "indie", his review could help dissuade the "masses" from buying into >our gang. for those(like me) who want this band to succeed beyond all >expectations, it's further proof that the band's decision to ignore the press >is the right way to go. Oh no, don't get me wrong about that, it's not the fact that Steven Wells gives them a slagging, it's the fact that you know what he's going to have written before he rights it, and that you know that it's because there's a "hidden" agenda on his mind rather than really reviewing a band. I'd however be the first to say that the first nights performance wasn't particularly good. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Leelorn at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 16:39:18 1998 From: Leelorn at xxx.com (Leelorn) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:39:18 EST Subject: Sinister: hi Message-ID: <7c4022ee.34bcea39@aol.com> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 16:38:46 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:38:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: He drinks a lager tops, he drinks a shandy drink Message-ID: <01bd210a$e2048ae0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Well, I can't tell you how sorry I am for being middle-class and university educated, not to mention breast fed. Thank God, I didn't go to public school. Tag That about sums it up Tag, it's a case of you're worth shit if you're not born working class, which is the sort of amazing double-standards I hate (oops, hang on, I take that back, double standards are something I practice on a regular basis). I don't know whether I'm OK actually - my family were working class, probably aren't now (I wonder if they celebrated their 'becoming middle class'). Am I working class? Well I do work, I suppose, I earn OK mind so I may be middle class. Hmmm, this is getting tricky now, maybe if I affect a really regional accent I'll be able to pass myself off as still worth something. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Jan 14 17:03:21 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:03:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: i dunno, couldn't think of one In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Richard Banner wrote: > Oh and on that NME review of the gigs its really not worth worrying > about. For a long time i've done nothing but slag off the likes of NME > and Melody Maker(thought i'd put them in as well)and i will continue to > do so. How the hell these papers sell is beyond me. Pure pants Come on now, it was a fair review. Swells's opinions may differ from everyone else on Planet Pop, but he managed to stereotype the average B&S fan (as seen here on this list) perfectly. By which I mean that I half-recognized myself in his description. I enjoy debate. I like reading opinions that differ from my own. But rather than get into some slanging match about politics, I narrow my focus to the stuff that really interests me (music, TV, comedy) so that at least the debate has some form of passion behind it. That's why I read this list. That's why I buy NME. (oh, and I'm also a shallow sheep who likes being told what to think. SHIT! whaddagiveaway!) Rod. (stopping before he gets TOO intensely intense) Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Windnesty: n. The belief that if the parking ticket lodged between | you wiper and windshield blows away, you don't have to pay ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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In-Reply-To: <01bd20f8$1bf32620$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > >3 Guy Chadwick - what a tosser pt4: "It's going to be a long hot > >summer/gonna stay in gonna be a bummer" > > > > What about the amazing clanger : "Destroy the heart she said, I'm gonna bake > you a loaf of bread" > Keith. > > > > > Actually : I love the House of Love and don't really care if he's a tosser > or not (which he evidently is) > ***he is / was, yes, but, musically, destroy the heart / christine / i don't know why i love you / love in a car and most of the first album are unbelievably wonderful: the b-sides album, tho, is even worse than one might imagine*** alastair horne> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 17:10:41 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 17:10:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie Message-ID: <199801141736.RAA25842@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> > Elizabeth said: > >Oh, can anyone recommend a starter album of Scott Walker? > > I'd try 'Boy Child, the best of, 67-70 (or something)'. It's chunks > of Scott 1-4 and does that job very well indeed > > She went on: > > Neil Hannon > >does sound awfully like him, doesn't he? > > Neil Hannon is a charlatan and a twerp and if I never hear another > Divine Comedy record again, I shall be very glad. > > Hope that helps > > tim > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From initgrl at xxx.org Wed Jan 14 18:20:13 1998 From: initgrl at xxx.org (jj heldmann) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:20:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: VIDEO In-Reply-To: <593488d.34bc2406@aol.com> Message-ID: > instead of (upcoming darlings!) like Belle and Sebastian or Magnetic Fields > (do the MF's even have videos?) there are TWO magnetic fields videos on the MUNCH (part two) video compilation, jointly released by Season Records (australia) and Drive-in Records (US)...the comp features loads of indiepop videos by the aforementioned Magnetic Fields, the Ropers, Cannanes, Rocketship, Cat's Miaow, Hydroplane, Juniper, La Beuna Vida and much much more...I havne't any idea how much it costs but if you email Mike at Drive in (drivein01 at aol.com) he'd be able to tell you more...its available in PAL and NTSC...oh here, go to http://members.aol.com/quid001/drivein.htm as it's got all the details xo jj ******************************************** fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa www.mindspring.com/~initialgirl/fantastic ******************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 18:36:24 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:36:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: well's review References: <2f15b1d7.34bce0f4@aol.com> Message-ID: <34BD05A8.D835522F@easynet.co.uk> Nrbqlover wrote: > i'm a little overwhelmed at how everyone is taking steve wells' review > of the > band. so he slagged them off-so what? for those of you who want B&S to > forever remain "indie", his review could help dissuade the "masses" > from buying into our gang. for those(like me) who want this band to > succeed beyond all > expectations, it's further proof that the band's decision to ignore > the press > is the right way to go. > > i mean wells should eat shit and die but it's not gonna stop me from > preaching > to the uninitiated(latest convert:friday night dinner companion, > ex-guitarist > with early eighties la punk band the flyboys, who called me yesterday > after > buying IYFS and ALL THREE EP'S desperate for a "Tigermilk" tape.) We > can do this ourselves-we don't need some p.r.-humping illiterate rock > scribe to > help!! > > clem lane > nrbqlover at aol.com > No-one is going to let the article change their views about B & S. I actually like it when a good writer criticises (in the true sense of the word) a band I think the world of. A good writer doesn't have to resort to the verbal equivalent of violence to make their point. Steven Wells, through his overweight firework prose, *is* quite capable of making a point. It's just that his points never seem worth making. His main shortcoming though is his inability to describe music with any notable degree of accuracy or beauty. I never feel like getting involved with the music he enthuses about - reading a positive Steven Wells review is like being badgered by a pasty-faced car salesman trying to get rid of his cousin's Capri. His juxtapositions of artists seem ill thought-out and are almost empirically inaccurate (the B&S vs. Don McLean/Kirsty MacColl one being a perfect illustration of this). Ultimately, the fact that he's written for a very shit music paper for a very long time means you had all the warning you needed. yerluvinuncleTurt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From suchgranddesigns at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 18:55:11 1998 From: suchgranddesigns at xxx.com (lady jillian) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:55:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: music to cry to Message-ID: <19980114.135830.12414.0.SuchGrandDesigns@juno.com> hello peeps, last night my best friend called me, horribly upset and sobbing over an argument she had with someone she really cares about. and about halfway through the conversation i was listening to her tell me about it when there was a quiet bit where she was trying to catch her breath and suddenly i noticed "...but if you're feeling sinister, go off and see your minister..." playing away in the background! i had bought IYFS for her birthday just a week ago, and though i felt really bad that she was so upset, i couldn't help but smile silently. altogether now: awwwww... jillian. xx ps: do you have the brand of jeans called JNCOs in britain? cos i was just trying to imagine wee chris's flares and i came up with a strange (and perhaps slightly disturbing) image of him in those outrageously wide JNCOs. i've never had the pleasure of seeing wee chris, but from his name i would imagine that his whole body could fit into one leg of those jeans. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Thu Jan 15 07:11:59 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 23:11:59 -0800 Subject: Sinister: we get knocked down and we get up again Message-ID: >Well, I can't tell you how sorry I am for being middle-class and >university educated, not to mention breast fed. Thank God, I didn't >go to public school. > >Tag Hum....can we guess what Tag has on his porridge? Golden Syrup or salt....let's take a vote! Or...I could wait till morning and just look.....* *just kiddin biscuit!!! :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 19:14:31 1998 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:14:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: this is not an e-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980114191431.295fa60e@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> >Anne wrote: >MOMUS is playing in London upstairs at the Garage on 21st January... >Is anyone from the list going? (cos I am) >I saw him in Paris and that was fantastic. > >I love JACK too. >"Pioneer Soundtrack" is a magnificent album and I would recommend it to >everyone on this list. JACK made my year in 96, just like BELLE & SEBASTIAN >did in 1997. >Both bands release a new album in 1998 and I can't wait to hear them ! >(JACK's one will be called "The Jazz Age", I think...) >Elle est pas belle la vie ?!??? >1998 is gonna be MAGNIFIQUE ! Are there any French people on the list? (I already pestered Anne) I might be going to Paris next month(who cares-oh well). Can you give me your opinion on any good places? >Stephen wrote: >Whaddya say we all pop round to Kings Reach Tower and do some slapping of our own When do we meet? (although a double standard question) >Tim wrote: > Neil Hannon is a charlatan and a twerp and if I never hear another > Divine Comedy record again, I shall be very glad. He's doing a single with Suede. Nice one-top one-sorted-sort of. S.Meritt (not so vague) reference: Listen to the 6ths 'wasps' nests'. Now. Is the gothic archies CD any good? Kelly (must try to kick this habit) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From adamrobinson at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 13:39:30 1998 From: adamrobinson at xxx.uk (Adam Robinson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:39:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Godlike Genius of Scott Walker Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From mark at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 19:49:44 1998 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:49:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Picky bastard strikes again! Message-ID: Katrina wrote: I refuse to say anything for fear of being incriminated against! Fantastic use of the English language - what on earth does it mean? Sorry. Bored Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Jan 14 15:39:04 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 16:39:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Spandau Ballet/Killing Zoe? References: <34BC1BFD.67B9@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <34BCDC18.E1923EEE@colon.net.> Sam Khater wrote: > I saw Killing Zoe the other day and was shocked to see a > somewhat > familiar face. Is that the same Gary Kemp that was in > Spandau Ballet? > It hit me when he was talking about dixieland music and > how it has it's > own culture. > I Haven't seen the film in question, but it probably was THE Gary Kemp. He can also be seen to great effect in "The Bodyguard". But for a real treat, seek out "The Krays" a biopic of the London brothers who killed people and stuff. The entire Krays "firm" is played by the members of Spandau Ballet, with the Kemp brother as Ronnie and Reggie. Jack "The Hat" McVitie is played by Howard Jones and Alison Moyet is Mother Kray, who the boys really loved, honest. Playing the piano in the corner of The Blind Beggar you can just see Nik Kershaw, whose "Wouldn't It Be Good" plays over the closing credits of the film. I believe Gary Kemp is also married to Pepsi and Shirley, recent visitors to the list Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 19:49:27 1998 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:49:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nothing interesting.. Message-ID: someone wrote: Having said that, however, the Hall itself is a lovely place, although I'm not quite sure what purpose the giant ceramic mushrooms suspended from the ceiling serve. They bounce the sound back down. Acoustic baffles I think you'll find - not mushrooms! B&S content: I noticed they didn't have any mushrooms in the roof at Manchester. Boring Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Thu Jan 15 08:14:36 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 00:14:36 -0800 Subject: Sinister: non b&s related, help? Message-ID: Anyone who can help, it would be ace.....If you were reviewing Autour De Lucie (not sure of spelling here...) what bands could they be compared to...in the same vein of....along the same lines of...... ? cheers, beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ciflux at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 20:12:19 1998 From: ciflux at xxx.com (Mike Appelstein) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:12:19 PST Subject: Sinister: tape of Sessions at 54th? Message-ID: <19980114201219.7148.qmail@hotmail.com> hi. Did anyone happen to record the possibly-never-to-be-aired Sessions at W. 54th taping? I was there and vividly remember how special it self, but if it never sees the airwaves, I'd at least like a tape dub of the afternoon. You know, if this show never airs, it's destined to go down in history as one of the great lost TV performances. I wonder if the Sessions producers actually completed an on-line dub, and whether it'll show up on bootleg someday... -- Mike ciflux at aol.com (disregard that Hotmail address up there) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Funkyseb at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 20:08:51 1998 From: Funkyseb at xxx.com (Funkyseb) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:08:51 EST Subject: Sinister: Faster happy bunnies, Kill, Kill! Message-ID: Er, probably a stupid question, but does anyone know if the characters in B&S songs are based on anyone in particular? Are they friends of the band, or as I suspect, will Stuart write a song about you in return for, ahem, certain favours? (I'm negotiable, if you're reading...). It would be nice to know if anyone on the list is mentioned in a song. (Or if they've slept with Stuart M.) > > Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all > the boys to Sebastian. Ah, I remember the days when Sebastian was a crap name... > Stuart M. reminds me of Tintin, the reporter. > >>No no no! Stuart is the cartoon Sebastian from the 80s series You're all wrong. Stuart is clearly Saint-Exupery's 'le petit prince'. Standing alone on his own little planet, and filling the universe with beautiful melancholy thoughts. Anyway, I'm off to weed out the Baobabs. Luv The nicely jumpered Seb (Belle) Brennan <> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AmyRicha at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 20:26:07 1998 From: AmyRicha at xxx.com (AmyRicha) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 15:26:07 EST Subject: Sinister: a resemblance. . . Message-ID: <3931c471.34bd1f61@aol.com> Matthew- Captain Haddock would be the Major in me and the major of course. And then there's a vague connection with seafarers if you follow the line from fish and chip shop in Photo Jenny... :) Elizabeth-the cartoon was the cartoon-of-the-live-action-series. Everyone cross about Swells article- wasn't he the one who interviewed them last autumn and couldn't get Stuart m. to stick around to talk to them and so proceeded to explain to us (with lots of rude words) just how arrogant and pathetic b&s are? I think he forgot that FREEDOM OF SPEECH is a big one with left wingers- that day I think the band had chosen not to speak. It annoyed him somewhat, I remember, which may have made him . On the subject of home taping- live and let live! if you're opposed, don't do it, if you believe it's an econical way to find out about obscure music or just hear something like tigermilk which is basically unavailable, go ahead! would anyone on the list not buy tigermilk when it's rereleased just because they already have a tape? Unless they're extremely poor, in which case be kind to them -let them have tapes anyway so they can eat. kisskiss amy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 21:02:28 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:02:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: le pastie is not a french word. so why the title? Message-ID: i am writing this as i wade throught the days THREE digests! ok. RE: the B&Smobile : my mate daniel has a pet shark called Snuffles who drives the Snuflesmobile. seriously. hey and Andy who said he'd delay putting up the nme review stuff for a bit so as not to annoy the music press, i say FUCK THEM! ANNOY THEM AS MUCH AS YOU WANT, give them hell, what are they gonna do? I'm glad B&S aint played the Albert Hall cos they are not sel out London bastards yet. oh so sue me for that all you Londoners with every thrill at your feet. but on a good not i'm seeing the Pastels on the 22nd. Lizzie Daplyn! do i know you? cos first you had the DP quote i used to have, now you have th poem i did at high school, wierd! I love home taping. i LOVE home taping! so does john fm on the radio! well, you will lvove what i've started taping for you anyway love! i love radiohead myself. i think they are quit beautiful. Fitter happier is quite scary. anyone who don't think so 'hasthe right to their own opinion'. booooooooooooring! Andy dean i love you! now i don't have to buy the Maker or NME. i spent all my cash on Uncut for Tags reviews! see honey someone thinks of ya. and of course the manics pics didn't encourage me either, even though Uncut could've done better than to print an old interview that was republished in a free book last year.... shit eating indie sheep? fuck you you old forgetfull agitator trying to amek out *you* are important, bringing your oh so socialist views to everyone. i mean, you MATTER don't you! shit eating! i've just spat yours out wanker and mailed it back to you. hardly anyone cares like you Wells you are making nothing you fart out words read in SW every week, and as you're a rich journo i bet you can even afford the 'solidarity price'. ooh i like insulting tooo! *coughs* ahem, back to the show.... ROD YOU'RE NOT AS INTENSLEY INTENSE AS ME! i can prove it. if any Sinisterians wanns email me at: intense_intensity at yahoo.com you can if you mention the words suburban unmeaningfullessness in the message :) YAY! i got through 2 digests! i have nothing else to say for my mind is frozen at office world. i'l pick it up tomorrow after i post a turd to Steve Well who would probably consider it revbellious and give me a job. but as he's so socialist he shouldn't believe in jobs. we work for unessential things the desire to have more is inherent. i went through this last week. i won't subject you to it. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "I am, Yet what I am no-one cares, or knows" -- John Clare ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 21:42:33 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:42:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: more Chadwick References: Message-ID: <34BD3149.3229@seahouses.u-net.com> A.M. Horne wrote: > ***he is / was, yes, but, musically, destroy the heart / christine / i > don't know why i love you / love in a car and most of the first album are > unbelievably wonderful: the b-sides album, tho, is even worse than one > might imagine*** oh dear. no. The b sides album is very very good and quite mellow in parts, you are thinking of the first Fontana album which really did fail to live up to expectations. I still liked it though, hey, I was a student at the time, we all LOOKED like Guy chadwick with those black woolly jumpers and things JJ xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 21:34:41 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:34:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Guy Chadwick References: <199801141349.NAA07880@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34BD2F71.7031@seahouses.u-net.com> stephen troussé wrote: > 3 Guy Chadwick - what a tosser pt4: "It's going to be a long hot > summer/gonna stay in gonna be a bummer" > No no NO! I love the House Of Love, only recently someone played me the single 'Feel' from Babe Rainbow, it's rather lovely I think, I don't have the CD of Babe Rainbow, if anyone has it and doesn't want it they could always send it to me, which would be nice. That line above is from the b side of Destroy The Heart isn't it, great song I think. Bah bollocks to all of you. JJ xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 21:19:34 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:19:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Albert and his Hall.Or Nothing. References: <50b517c3.34bc13b1@aol.com> Message-ID: <34BD2BE6.8FB@seahouses.u-net.com> Essexdog5 wrote: > PS.... re: Sarah records, the best release was Brighter Now by Razorcuts. DOH! *everybody* knows that Brighter Now by Razorcuts was on Creation records.... *slap* on the wrist. Naughty, get in your basket. JJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From itstrue at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 20:59:31 1998 From: itstrue at xxx.com ( Reid) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 13:59:31 -0700 Subject: Sinister: News that not all of us know Message-ID: A quick thank you to Andy for giving us the MM and NME reviews. So often, the problem with some of these lists is that people assume that everyone else on the list has heard whatever news there is already and therefore don't need to say anything about it. But some of us joined this list JUST for that supposedly common-sense news. I'll write more when I've learned how to make sense. ~Reid Free web-based e-mail, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailcity.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 21:01:12 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 21:01:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie References: <34BCB4C0.2368@erols.com> Message-ID: <34BD2798.5DFAB26F@totalweb.co.uk> dina passman wrote: > ELIZABETH DAPLYN wrote: > > > Oh, can anyone recommend a starter album of Scott Walker? > > i know i will offend some by saying this, but the walker brothers kick > scott's solo ass by a mile. (i have yet to hear the jacques brel > record-so hold your tongues!) > > my advice > the walker brothers compilation called "after the lights > go out" - fabulous... > > your dedicated friend > dina > > p.s. people, leave dave kitchen alone about the bootlegging. it's > tired. might i also add the radiohead non-debate to this list of > boring things??? saved! at last, but immediately i go off on another tangent (good enough plug duke?), scott walker is marginally better (providing the margin covers a few star systems), i'd go for "Scott 2" to start with, "Next" is an extraordinary track and deserves playing on every stereo equipped machine david (nursing wounds but feeling perky) -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: vcard.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 439 bytes Desc: Card for david & katrina URL: From M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:48:23 1998 From: M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk (M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 12:48:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: Northern Soul Message-ID: <9800148848.AA884811803@ccgw4.lse.ac.uk> There's a bit of confusion over what is northern soul, so here's an explanation for whoever may be interested... Popular opinion has northern soul as the description for the thousands of Tamla imitators of the mid to late 60s. The scene, as such, started in London's Soho clubs in the mid 60s, playing mainly Motown. However, as is the way with things in London, the scene was a fad and soon dissipated, largely due to the growing dominance of heavy rock which killed off a lot of the mod scene, and which placed a rather over zealous importance on serious music. At the time, Sgt Pepper shifted the emphasis from singles to albums, live music was thought superior to discos, and an audience for rock - which called soul music idiot dancing music - was catered for by colleges with gig venues. But that was the south. Fans with a feverish passion for soul took the scene to the northern clubs in Stoke, Blackburn, Wigan and Manchester. A cloumnist on Blues and soul magazine, Dave Godwin, noticed this change and christened the movement northern soul. The increasingly popular clubs couldn't survive by playing the same records week in week out. DJs (such as Ian Levine, much later producer of Take That records) clamoured to get the latest imports to keep the punters dancing. The next step was to go to America to buy up stocks of unsold records in warehouses. Countless gems were unearthed, creating the rare and expensive northern single, typically in the sub-Tamla genre. By the turn of the decade, the northern scene became divided as certain DJs diversified to include some funk in their sets. This helped keep the scene fresh, but the, er, funky flavas aren't considered as northern classics with hindsight; the staple diet of northern soul remains naked passion, blind devotion and, most importantly, a danceable beat. Indeed, the 70s saw a host of contemporary floorshakers and heartbreakers make the grade in the clubs. Mods have always been part of the northern scene, with their competitiveness (having the latest import; DJs would even put white card over the record label as it played so no-one could find out what it was and try and buy one), their love of smart fashions and speed to keep them up all night at the Wigan Casino. Most northern soul is American, though there is a stack of British classics, but the scene is British. It is coincidental that the major production bases for northern soul were in the northern cities of America, such as New York, Detroit and Chicago. Southern soul is a different breed, a geopgraphical description for slower, more gospel-influenced soul. Crossovers do exist, of course, including one of the greatest northern numbers ever, Ann Sexton's You've Been Gone Too Long. On a different note - Guy Chadwick once sang "I don't know why I love you, your face is like a foreign food". It's crap and it doesn't even rhyme. Ben ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 10:03:18 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:03:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I saw 'em first! Message-ID: <199801140937.JAA27526@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Chris wrote >>Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very >young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. Was that at the Venue, coz I would have been there among the more people?? I remember Thom going around handing out stickers (yay!!! - Belle and Sebastian stickers please!!) before the F&W came on. He recognised my mate as we were in the year below them at school (have I mentioned this before...) and said hello. He was a very polite young man and we wished him well. Had I known he was rebuffing the artistic efforts of his fans I'd have given "what for". B&S link.... The Frank and Walters came on (in orange dungarees for that demented play-group leader chic), picked up their instruments, bashed away at them for a while before stopping and exchanging instruments, get this - they were playing the wrong ones! I thought "this will never catch on"... Further B&S content... Just received an email from an old friend in Canada who I haven't seen for ages. Having found out from my homepage that I was into B&S he mentioned that they didn't do much for him but he had called his two new china fishes Belle and Sebastian. Then in what the British tabloids would doubtless dub a "shocking outburst" he went on to say "but I do *appreciate* having someone like Stuart around, if only to counteract the effect of bombastic morons like, say, Richard Ashcroft. " Truth will out! hot love Sebastian Johnston >---------- >From: Chris Leonard[SMTP:cleonard at xxx.COM] >Sent: 14 Jan 1998 09:33 >To: 'sinister at majordomo.net' >Subject: RE: Sinister: I saw 'em first! > >>> You bastard, I saw Radiohead years ago when they were called 'On A > >>>Friday' >>> and they used to play the Arse & Ferret in Oxford on the last Friday on > >>>the >>> month. I've bought all their records on the day they came out and I hate > >>>it >>> when 'new' fans like you try to steal my glory. Radiohead belong to me - >>> not you! >> >I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was >very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon >Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then >when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the >face. It was dead funny. > >I wrote to radiohead and drew a picture of them, but they never wrote >back. > >Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very >young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. > >Again, i wrote to radiohead and drew another picture of them but they >never wrote back. > >Now that radiohead are famous, everytime i see them on tv i think >they're laughing at me and my letters and my drawings. That thom boy is >>a bully and a bastard. >> >chris > >P.S. Dr Paul, I have examined the photos of the Belle And Sebastian band >closely and have constructed a masterplan.................... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jjm at xxx.Meikleham Wed Jan 14 10:28:47 1998 From: jjm at xxx.Meikleham (jjm at xxx.Meikleham) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:28:47 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199801141028.KAA13823@helix.mblab.gla.ac.uk> subscribe sinister-digest ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Wed Jan 14 12:39:00 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:39:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: <199801132327.XAA17364@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BCB1E4.6B9F@virgin.net> Northy wrote: > To all at Jeepster who think this is immoral (If you do - I dunno?) I'm sorry to pick on Northy, but I think this has to be said ... When David is talking about bootlegging etc., that is him speaking, and as he keeps on saying, does NOT necessarily represent what Jeepster think. It is his own personal opinion, and whether I agree with him or not (I refuse to say anything for fear of being incriminated against!) has nothing to do with Jeepster. David and I were both fans before he started the fanclub, and that was running a full six months before I started work at Jeepster. My friends back home will tell you I never believed in home taping when I was at school, as i didn't want the artists to lose ... they in turn managed to convince me that they weren't going to find out about these new bands i was going bonkers over (names withheld to protect my previous musical taste), without me letting them listen, and then for them to go out and purchase the albums themselves. Which is what i think David wants to do ... (sorry to Paul and everyone else if you're getting fed up with this thread) cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 09:35:20 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:35:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping Message-ID: <01bd20cf$bb4ee1b0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >>2. Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. >>It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. >>Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully >>contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present. > >Hmm, I really do think that Radiohead fans just don't like music Yeah... but they do like whinging, sub-U2 songs and "metaphorical" videos about drowning 'n' stuff. Always find it amazing the amount of pain Thom Yorke looks like he's in when he's singing... I suppose he's exorcising his "inner demons" perhaps. Well I tell you, if I was in as much pain when I was singing a song, I'd just simply not do it! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 19:50:49 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:50:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bootlegging from Vinyl References: <01bd203e$c9891f70$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BBC599.E5264AA6@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > >Further, just to comfort B&S and/or Jeepster, CD's mass > produced from a > Vinyl source would be inferior to those from the Master > >Tape unless a great > deal of money was spent trying to digitally remaster the > sound. Also, > cateran on chat made it known that >Cdroms, played on a > regual CD player > which lack the ability to oversample them, sound > noticeably infererior (if > one is an audiophile). > > Hmmm... I'm afraid this point doesn't seem to make much > sense. If a CD > player reads a single circuit on a CD and the sum of all > the bits on that > circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end of > that circuit then it > will skip. All oversampling CD players do is attempt to > read the circuit x > number of times in an attempt to get it correct before > actually playing it, > they will also skip if unable to match the checksum. > Either a CD will skip, > or it'll sound exactly the same as it did when initially > recorded, in the > same way that if you take a binary computer program and > splat a few zeroes > into the middle of the file, it's not likely to make the > program just > slightly worse, just completely and untterly shaft it. I > don't know where > this sort of stuff comes from, but there was an article a > few years ago that > stated that should you keep your CD's in a fridge, they'd > sound better! I quite agree Keith. > > > Frankly too, I'm quite surprised bootlegs of Tigermilk > aren't already > readily available. I had a look in Barrowlands in Glasgow > a few months ago > just out of interest, and there aren't even any tapes, > never mind CD's. > Is the secondhand porno mag stall still there? > Indeed. What got me thinking however, is the size of the > wages bill that B+S > must accrue. Mick's previous band I remember were paying > themselves 150 quid > a week or so living expenses, so if you extrapolate that > to Belle and > Sebastian they must be paying a weekly wages bill of 1120 > quid, this is > quite considerable - so on that evidence it's probably > about time Tigermilk > received a legitamate release or bankruptcy looms! Yes, I'm just listening to Fat Larry's Band, there were loads of them, and more than one of them was overweight. I wonder what wages they paid themselves? I didn't know bands had wages until quite recently. I thought they just piled the money up on a table, argued about it and split up.It's tempting to pretend to be above wondering what kind of money Belle and Sebastian are making, but if the truth be told I am a very nosey bastard. Next time anyone encounters a drunkenn band member, please ask them. Otherwise we don't know whether to hate their guts or not. I am listening to fat Larry because it's on Stax Funk - Get Up and Get Down, another compilation from the Ace group of labels. I don't think it counts as Northern Soul but it's a nice listen and contains some mindblowing photographs of what appear to be lunatics. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:19:18 1998 From: S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk (Stuart Maclean) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:19:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: Piss Poor Band in the NME Message-ID: <21274.199801141419@penelope.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Saw in the NME this week a bit about some bunch of losers whose "sole trick is to combine piss-poor sub-Don Maclean lyrics with nicked Kirsty MacColl riffs". Well, I was always the world's biggest Don Maclean AND Kirsty MacColl fan, so that must some damned fine band... ;-)))))))))))))))))) Oh, and hi to Nessie! Stu, who's still in search of a Sunday night (audio) tape. Any offers? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Jan 14 11:49:47 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:49:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Brian Hurst, he saw them first Message-ID: I don't know if it's the same band, damn clever name though. If it is the same band someone probably punched him on the face. I remember seeing them on rapido years ago and their special gimmick was they had a fabulous mini. I don't mean like a really good one, i mean it was the fabulous-mobile, with"fabulous" spray painted all over it and they used to drive it about shouting "fabulous!" out of the window. Maybe that's an idea for B & S....They could call it the "Sebaticar" or something, and drive about telling truant children to get back to school. I really must do some work Cheery, Chris >---------- >From: Keith Watson[SMTP:keith at xxx.uk] >Sent: 14 January 1998 09:51 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Brian Hurst, he saw them first > >>I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was >>very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon >>Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then >>when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the >>face. It was dead funny. > > > >The strange thing is Chris, is that only last week I almost went through to >see Annie Christian in Glasgow last week who it turns out were supporting a >band called Fabulous too. This got me thinking to the tune that it couldn't >have been Simon Dudfield's fabulous, could it... could it... I don't really >know. What a bag of shite. > >Cheers, > Keith. > >[Been toying with the idea of using "Sorry, no Belle and Sebastian content" >as my signature, but figured that guys at work might get a bit confused!] > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 11:33:00 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:33:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: Troutfishing in Chorlton Cum Hardy In-Reply-To: <199801140923.JAA20772@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801140923.JAA20772@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34bc9600.8788319@email.mcmail.com> Jeez, What's going on? I'm now getting as many digests as I was getting mails two weeks ago. Don't you people ever sleep? Jessica wrote >I read in an old Seventeen magazine about some guy in the USA who changed >his name to Trout Fishing In America, because he loved Richard Brautigan's >stuff. And he changed it just in time for it to appear on his highschool >diploma. His friends call him Trout. Yes! Yes! Richard Brautigan rules! Go and read 'Tokyo-Montana Express' and then tell me I'm wrong. Yaz wrote >Following Tag's repeated request for us all to make love in London, Repeated? I only said it once. Are you calling me boring? I'm a pale and interesting redhead, so go tell that to your so called Plastic Population. Mark wrote >You bastard, I saw Radiohead years ago when they were called 'On A Friday' >and they used to play the Arse & Ferret in Oxford on the last Friday on the >month. I've bought all their records on the day they came out and I hate it >when 'new' fans like you try to steal my glory. Radiohead belong to me - >not you! Please stop reading the so-called funny pages in the music press because they make you sound like Steve Lamacq. Northy wrote >1. Bought Vanishing Point - Primal Scream. It was shite. Took it >back to Woolworths and said it was the wrong album. No questions >asked and I was fully refunded with CASH. > >2. Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. >It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. >Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully >contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present. He's really blown it now, hasn't he? >Imagine if God was on wheels? Or if he was just a dog? Northy's world is a strange and troubled one. >bye from the now accepted Northy (ta Tag!) You know you can push your luck too far, Sonny. Sam wrote >I'm familiar with some UK expressions, but what does the term 'licking >railings' in LLPJ mean? It's a euphemism for felching. It's obvious. >Has anyone heard the scoop on Guy's (ex-House of Love) new solo album >due out in a few weeks? Ah, Guy Chadwick. Who can forget his lyrical insights 'I slip through sand just like water and sand', 'it feels like summer, gosh my skin's so itchy' (that one was about Hiroshima, believe it or not), 'and now I know why I love my wife'. What a poet, what an artist, what a prick. Talking of poets, did anyone read about Jim Morisson being a habitual bed wetter - I haven't laughed so much since the 'Come to Daddy' video. Peter wrote >Then she is a fibber and a pooh face! Peter Miller is in his late twenties. >There was some other stuff but it was about Duke being undercover at the >Manchester gigs, so I can't repeat it here or he might find out that we're >all really disappointed that he didn't meet his public. Perhaps next time, >eh Duke? I gather that the Duke was too busy 'nibbling on Stuart Murdoch's vegetable burrito'. For the benefit of our American friends, this is also a euphemism. Love to all, Trout Sebastian McTaggart Miss Hoover, my face is on fire ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Jan 14 11:36:54 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:36:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I saw 'em first! Message-ID: I said > >>Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very >>young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. Then Hot Johnston said > >>Was that at the Venue, coz I would have been there among the more >>people?? I remember Thom going around handing out stickers (yay!!! - >>Belle and Sebastian stickers please!!) before the F&W came on. He >>recognised my mate as we were in the year below them at school (have I >>mentioned this before...) and said hello. It was defintely in King tuts this time, cos I've never been in the venue. It was just before Creep came out the first time. King Tuts really smells. Some people I know went to the venue dancing last year and said that they were the only two people in the building that didn't have mullets. Scary thought. I had a mini mullet when i went to see david lee roth. But don't tell anyone. >> He was a very polite young man >> and we wished him well. Had I known he was rebuffing the artistic >> efforts of his fans I'd have given "what for". I gave him what for by boycotting his records. That'll learn him. > >>B&S link.... >>The Frank and Walters came on (in orange dungarees for that demented >>play-group leader chic), picked up their instruments, bashed away at >>them for a while before stopping and exchanging instruments, get this - >>they were playing the wrong ones! I thought "this will never catch >>on"... Did the place fill up with tiny bubbles before they came on? B&S link.... Eh, can't think of one. Yes I can. Who pays Mick, Jeepster or the Band? I always fancied chaging my name to "Snatch". from Christopher "Snatch" Leonard > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 09:51:31 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:51:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Brian Hurst, he saw them first Message-ID: <01bd20d1$fdec7df0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was >very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon >Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then >when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the >face. It was dead funny. The strange thing is Chris, is that only last week I almost went through to see Annie Christian in Glasgow last week who it turns out were supporting a band called Fabulous too. This got me thinking to the tune that it couldn't have been Simon Dudfield's fabulous, could it... could it... I don't really know. What a bag of shite. Cheers, Keith. [Been toying with the idea of using "Sorry, no Belle and Sebastian content" as my signature, but figured that guys at work might get a bit confused!] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Jan 14 11:49:47 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:49:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Brian Hurst, he saw them first Message-ID: I don't know if it's the same band, damn clever name though. If it is the same band someone probably punched him on the face. I remember seeing them on rapido years ago and their special gimmick was they had a fabulous mini. I don't mean like a really good one, i mean it was the fabulous-mobile, with"fabulous" spray painted all over it and they used to drive it about shouting "fabulous!" out of the window. Maybe that's an idea for B & S....They could call it the "Sebaticar" or something, and drive about telling truant children to get back to school. I really must do some work Cheery, Chris >---------- >From: Keith Watson[SMTP:keith at xxx.uk] >Sent: 14 January 1998 09:51 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Brian Hurst, he saw them first > >>I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was >>very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon >>Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then >>when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the >>face. It was dead funny. > > > >The strange thing is Chris, is that only last week I almost went through to >see Annie Christian in Glasgow last week who it turns out were supporting a >band called Fabulous too. This got me thinking to the tune that it couldn't >have been Simon Dudfield's fabulous, could it... could it... I don't really >know. What a bag of shite. > >Cheers, > Keith. > >[Been toying with the idea of using "Sorry, no Belle and Sebastian content" >as my signature, but figured that guys at work might get a bit confused!] > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 11:33:00 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:33:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: Troutfishing in Chorlton Cum Hardy In-Reply-To: <199801140923.JAA20772@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801140923.JAA20772@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34bc9600.8788319@email.mcmail.com> Jeez, What's going on? I'm now getting as many digests as I was getting mails two weeks ago. Don't you people ever sleep? Jessica wrote >I read in an old Seventeen magazine about some guy in the USA who changed >his name to Trout Fishing In America, because he loved Richard Brautigan's >stuff. And he changed it just in time for it to appear on his highschool >diploma. His friends call him Trout. Yes! Yes! Richard Brautigan rules! Go and read 'Tokyo-Montana Express' and then tell me I'm wrong. Yaz wrote >Following Tag's repeated request for us all to make love in London, Repeated? I only said it once. Are you calling me boring? I'm a pale and interesting redhead, so go tell that to your so called Plastic Population. Mark wrote >You bastard, I saw Radiohead years ago when they were called 'On A Friday' >and they used to play the Arse & Ferret in Oxford on the last Friday on the >month. I've bought all their records on the day they came out and I hate it >when 'new' fans like you try to steal my glory. Radiohead belong to me - >not you! Please stop reading the so-called funny pages in the music press because they make you sound like Steve Lamacq. Northy wrote >1. Bought Vanishing Point - Primal Scream. It was shite. Took it >back to Woolworths and said it was the wrong album. No questions >asked and I was fully refunded with CASH. > >2. Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. >It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. >Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully >contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present. He's really blown it now, hasn't he? >Imagine if God was on wheels? Or if he was just a dog? Northy's world is a strange and troubled one. >bye from the now accepted Northy (ta Tag!) You know you can push your luck too far, Sonny. Sam wrote >I'm familiar with some UK expressions, but what does the term 'licking >railings' in LLPJ mean? It's a euphemism for felching. It's obvious. >Has anyone heard the scoop on Guy's (ex-House of Love) new solo album >due out in a few weeks? Ah, Guy Chadwick. Who can forget his lyrical insights 'I slip through sand just like water and sand', 'it feels like summer, gosh my skin's so itchy' (that one was about Hiroshima, believe it or not), 'and now I know why I love my wife'. What a poet, what an artist, what a prick. Talking of poets, did anyone read about Jim Morisson being a habitual bed wetter - I haven't laughed so much since the 'Come to Daddy' video. Peter wrote >Then she is a fibber and a pooh face! Peter Miller is in his late twenties. >There was some other stuff but it was about Duke being undercover at the >Manchester gigs, so I can't repeat it here or he might find out that we're >all really disappointed that he didn't meet his public. Perhaps next time, >eh Duke? I gather that the Duke was too busy 'nibbling on Stuart Murdoch's vegetable burrito'. For the benefit of our American friends, this is also a euphemism. Love to all, Trout Sebastian McTaggart Miss Hoover, my face is on fire ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:48:23 1998 From: M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk (M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 98 12:48:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: Northern Soul Message-ID: <9800148848.AA884811803@ccgw4.lse.ac.uk> There's a bit of confusion over what is northern soul, so here's an explanation for whoever may be interested... Popular opinion has northern soul as the description for the thousands of Tamla imitators of the mid to late 60s. The scene, as such, started in London's Soho clubs in the mid 60s, playing mainly Motown. However, as is the way with things in London, the scene was a fad and soon dissipated, largely due to the growing dominance of heavy rock which killed off a lot of the mod scene, and which placed a rather over zealous importance on serious music. At the time, Sgt Pepper shifted the emphasis from singles to albums, live music was thought superior to discos, and an audience for rock - which called soul music idiot dancing music - was catered for by colleges with gig venues. But that was the south. Fans with a feverish passion for soul took the scene to the northern clubs in Stoke, Blackburn, Wigan and Manchester. A cloumnist on Blues and soul magazine, Dave Godwin, noticed this change and christened the movement northern soul. The increasingly popular clubs couldn't survive by playing the same records week in week out. DJs (such as Ian Levine, much later producer of Take That records) clamoured to get the latest imports to keep the punters dancing. The next step was to go to America to buy up stocks of unsold records in warehouses. Countless gems were unearthed, creating the rare and expensive northern single, typically in the sub-Tamla genre. By the turn of the decade, the northern scene became divided as certain DJs diversified to include some funk in their sets. This helped keep the scene fresh, but the, er, funky flavas aren't considered as northern classics with hindsight; the staple diet of northern soul remains naked passion, blind devotion and, most importantly, a danceable beat. Indeed, the 70s saw a host of contemporary floorshakers and heartbreakers make the grade in the clubs. Mods have always been part of the northern scene, with their competitiveness (having the latest import; DJs would even put white card over the record label as it played so no-one could find out what it was and try and buy one), their love of smart fashions and speed to keep them up all night at the Wigan Casino. Most northern soul is American, though there is a stack of British classics, but the scene is British. It is coincidental that the major production bases for northern soul were in the northern cities of America, such as New York, Detroit and Chicago. Southern soul is a different breed, a geopgraphical description for slower, more gospel-influenced soul. Crossovers do exist, of course, including one of the greatest northern numbers ever, Ann Sexton's You've Been Gone Too Long. On a different note - Guy Chadwick once sang "I don't know why I love you, your face is like a foreign food". It's crap and it doesn't even rhyme. Ben ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Jan 14 11:36:54 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:36:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I saw 'em first! Message-ID: I said > >>Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very >>young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. Then Hot Johnston said > >>Was that at the Venue, coz I would have been there among the more >>people?? I remember Thom going around handing out stickers (yay!!! - >>Belle and Sebastian stickers please!!) before the F&W came on. He >>recognised my mate as we were in the year below them at school (have I >>mentioned this before...) and said hello. It was defintely in King tuts this time, cos I've never been in the venue. It was just before Creep came out the first time. King Tuts really smells. Some people I know went to the venue dancing last year and said that they were the only two people in the building that didn't have mullets. Scary thought. I had a mini mullet when i went to see david lee roth. But don't tell anyone. >> He was a very polite young man >> and we wished him well. Had I known he was rebuffing the artistic >> efforts of his fans I'd have given "what for". I gave him what for by boycotting his records. That'll learn him. > >>B&S link.... >>The Frank and Walters came on (in orange dungarees for that demented >>play-group leader chic), picked up their instruments, bashed away at >>them for a while before stopping and exchanging instruments, get this - >>they were playing the wrong ones! I thought "this will never catch >>on"... Did the place fill up with tiny bubbles before they came on? B&S link.... Eh, can't think of one. Yes I can. Who pays Mick, Jeepster or the Band? I always fancied chaging my name to "Snatch". from Christopher "Snatch" Leonard > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Wed Jan 14 12:39:00 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:39:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: <199801132327.XAA17364@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BCB1E4.6B9F@virgin.net> Northy wrote: > To all at Jeepster who think this is immoral (If you do - I dunno?) I'm sorry to pick on Northy, but I think this has to be said ... When David is talking about bootlegging etc., that is him speaking, and as he keeps on saying, does NOT necessarily represent what Jeepster think. It is his own personal opinion, and whether I agree with him or not (I refuse to say anything for fear of being incriminated against!) has nothing to do with Jeepster. David and I were both fans before he started the fanclub, and that was running a full six months before I started work at Jeepster. My friends back home will tell you I never believed in home taping when I was at school, as i didn't want the artists to lose ... they in turn managed to convince me that they weren't going to find out about these new bands i was going bonkers over (names withheld to protect my previous musical taste), without me letting them listen, and then for them to go out and purchase the albums themselves. Which is what i think David wants to do ... 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Jan 14 14:36:20 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:36:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Photees In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 14 Jan 1998, Rod Begbie wrote: > What happened to b+s6.jpg, though? A nation demands to know! Too pornograhic. Bog shot at aftershow. Tag and Hugh. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leslie.chinea at xxx.com Wed Jan 14 18:47:00 1998 From: leslie.chinea at xxx.com (leslie chinea) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 18:47:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: non b&s related, help? Message-ID: <0000ADC6.4556@emimusic.com> Subject: Sinister: non b&s related, help? Author: barzy at networkmags.com (Madame Cholet) at X-MAIL Date: 1/15/98 12:14 AM >Anyone who can help, it would be ace.....If you were reviewing Autour De >Lucie (not sure of spelling here...) what bands could they be compared >to...in the same vein of....along the same lines of...... ? >cheers, >beth Sacre Blu! It's almost ashame to have to compare Autour De Lucie (correct spelling) to others....but if you must: Stereolab and Ivy Leslie ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Message-ID: <01bd214b$74b93300$LocalHost@jasper> > Kelly (a.k.a.Laurie Lemans) said : > "Jack are alright, but the Jacques CD, despite the lovely cover and everything > is not really that good" well, i have to realize that I haven't heard the whole album, but there is one song I know, "When I was king", wich is for me one of the best songs of the year....really incredible! the kind of song you could boy an album just for it! Anyway, I also love the wonderful Tindersticks! And do you like spanish group Le Mans? Javier -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rcoleman at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:19:45 1998 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:19:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: nme review of manchester Message-ID: I am amused at the frequent references in the nme article to 'twee' 'mumsy-wumsy' and 'warm and happy-clappy cosy'......after all, here is a 'writer' who submits his work to a rag that needs to translate FUCKING into F-ING for him. with that in mind, presumably he was dispatched to the matin�e so as he could avoid those nasty dangerous manchester streets after dark. why is wells' writing so well regarded anyway? that article reads like the work of some retard sounding-off in my local 'cauliflower-ear' boozer. what a f-pig. -Rod ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Thu Jan 15 00:15:14 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 19:15:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: doubled or trebled messages Message-ID: is anyone else getting messages more than once? i was wondering why my mailbox had 150 mesages in it when i just checked it about 4 hours ago! roberta **oh you look so tired mouth slack and wide ill-housed and ill-advised your face is as mean as your life has been crash into my arms i want you****** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:19:45 1998 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:19:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: nme review of manchester Message-ID: I am amused at the frequent references in the nme article to 'twee' 'mumsy-wumsy' and 'warm and happy-clappy cosy'......after all, here is a 'writer' who submits his work to a rag that needs to translate FUCKING into F-ING for him. with that in mind, presumably he was dispatched to the matin�e so as he could avoid those nasty dangerous manchester streets after dark. why is wells' writing so well regarded anyway? that article reads like the work of some retard sounding-off in my local 'cauliflower-ear' boozer. what a f-pig. -Rod ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:19:18 1998 From: S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk (Stuart Maclean) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:19:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: Piss Poor Band in the NME Message-ID: <21274.199801141419@penelope.ecs.soton.ac.uk> Saw in the NME this week a bit about some bunch of losers whose "sole trick is to combine piss-poor sub-Don Maclean lyrics with nicked Kirsty MacColl riffs". Well, I was always the world's biggest Don Maclean AND Kirsty MacColl fan, so that must some damned fine band... ;-)))))))))))))))))) Oh, and hi to Nessie! Stu, who's still in search of a Sunday night (audio) tape. Any offers? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:51:40 1998 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:51:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: i dunno, couldn't think of one Message-ID: I saw the video for 'Century of Fakers' last night on MTV's Alternative Nation, it was pretty mad...what i want to know is... ..How many vids have the band now made??? and when they do appear is it possible to have advance warning?? Oh and on that NME review of the gigs its really not worth worrying about. For a long time i've done nothing but slag off the likes of NME and Melody Maker(thought i'd put them in as well)and i will continue to do so. How the hell these papers sell is beyond me. Pure pants Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From c9712536 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 14:51:40 1998 From: c9712536 at xxx.uk (Richard Banner) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:51:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: i dunno, couldn't think of one Message-ID: I saw the video for 'Century of Fakers' last night on MTV's Alternative Nation, it was pretty mad...what i want to know is... ..How many vids have the band now made??? and when they do appear is it possible to have advance warning?? Oh and on that NME review of the gigs its really not worth worrying about. For a long time i've done nothing but slag off the likes of NME and Melody Maker(thought i'd put them in as well)and i will continue to do so. How the hell these papers sell is beyond me. Pure pants Rich ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lucy.munro at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:52:12 1998 From: lucy.munro at xxx.uk (LUCY C MUNRO) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:52:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tintin and record shops Message-ID: Stuart M. can't be Tintin, because it's a well known fact that Jimmy Somerville is the Belgian sleuth, and there's only room for one. On exchanges in Record shops, a friend of mine usually says that he was given them as presents but already had one & I think that's worked so far. I managed to get the Virgin Megastore on Oxford Street to exchange a 12 inch single that I'd bought but someone then gave me the next day as a congratulations present - naturally I kept the one he gave me & took back the other. There's a lovely story about someone who collected coupons from an lp for a free 7 which you had to send off for (maybe by the Clash?) by repeatedly taking the record back and exchanging it, being very careful to get a different assistant each time. He got enough for a good number of the singles & then gave them out at his college in the spirit of evangelism that overtakes us all sometimes. Lucy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lucy.munro at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:52:12 1998 From: lucy.munro at xxx.uk (LUCY C MUNRO) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:52:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tintin and record shops Message-ID: Stuart M. can't be Tintin, because it's a well known fact that Jimmy Somerville is the Belgian sleuth, and there's only room for one. On exchanges in Record shops, a friend of mine usually says that he was given them as presents but already had one & I think that's worked so far. I managed to get the Virgin Megastore on Oxford Street to exchange a 12 inch single that I'd bought but someone then gave me the next day as a congratulations present - naturally I kept the one he gave me & took back the other. There's a lovely story about someone who collected coupons from an lp for a free 7 which you had to send off for (maybe by the Clash?) by repeatedly taking the record back and exchanging it, being very careful to get a different assistant each time. He got enough for a good number of the singles & then gave them out at his college in the spirit of evangelism that overtakes us all sometimes. Lucy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Bought Joy Division album after hearing great things about them. >>It was shit. Took it back to HMV and said it was the wrong album. >>Got HMV tokens to the full price of album. These helpfully >>contributed to the purchase of my brother in laws christmas present. > >Hmm, I really do think that Radiohead fans just don't like music Yeah... but they do like whinging, sub-U2 songs and "metaphorical" videos about drowning 'n' stuff. Always find it amazing the amount of pain Thom Yorke looks like he's in when he's singing... I suppose he's exorcising his "inner demons" perhaps. Well I tell you, if I was in as much pain when I was singing a song, I'd just simply not do it! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 09:51:31 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 09:51:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Brian Hurst, he saw them first Message-ID: <01bd20d1$fdec7df0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was >very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon >Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then >when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the >face. It was dead funny. The strange thing is Chris, is that only last week I almost went through to see Annie Christian in Glasgow last week who it turns out were supporting a band called Fabulous too. This got me thinking to the tune that it couldn't have been Simon Dudfield's fabulous, could it... could it... I don't really know. What a bag of shite. Cheers, Keith. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Jan 14 11:20:08 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:20:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: iain banks, espedair street Message-ID: <8025658C.0042B6E8.00@bull.co.uk> um, don't know if anyone knows this but it's a book (andy makes relevant gestures with his hands) about a scottish band and their rise and fall and it was rather good although the musical style was too proggy for my taste. anyway, it's now a radio play (um, andy doesn't know the hand gestures for radio play) in 4 parts and, well, i've missed the first part but the rest of them are on radio 4 on thursday nights. d. weir is played by john gordon sinclair (gregory's girl) (iain himself is as scottish as scottish can be and v. friendly given the twice i've spoken to him) and vocals are by monica queen. there, a B&S link... am just about to start on typing the gig reports in today's papers. i'll start on the nme one and post it when i've done. if anyone wants to do the (better) mm one then feel free... i'll post them here and then put them on the web page along with the pictures that are currently on paul's page. but i'll leave it a week or so so as to not piss the music papers off... andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Wed Jan 14 11:20:08 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 11:20:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: iain banks, espedair street Message-ID: <8025658C.0042B6E8.00@bull.co.uk> um, don't know if anyone knows this but it's a book (andy makes relevant gestures with his hands) about a scottish band and their rise and fall and it was rather good although the musical style was too proggy for my taste. anyway, it's now a radio play (um, andy doesn't know the hand gestures for radio play) in 4 parts and, well, i've missed the first part but the rest of them are on radio 4 on thursday nights. d. weir is played by john gordon sinclair (gregory's girl) (iain himself is as scottish as scottish can be and v. friendly given the twice i've spoken to him) and vocals are by monica queen. there, a B&S link... am just about to start on typing the gig reports in today's papers. i'll start on the nme one and post it when i've done. if anyone wants to do the (better) mm one then feel free... i'll post them here and then put them on the web page along with the pictures that are currently on paul's page. but i'll leave it a week or so so as to not piss the music papers off... andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From GntlTuesdy at xxx.com Thu Jan 15 01:30:40 1998 From: GntlTuesdy at xxx.com (GntlTuesdy at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 20:30:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Letter to PBS Message-ID: <980114203039_1227544551@mrin39.mx> what is that address to write to pbs to get the belle and sebastian show up? thanks in advance. neal ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Jan 13 19:50:49 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 1998 20:50:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bootlegging from Vinyl References: <01bd203e$c9891f70$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BBC599.E5264AA6@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > >Further, just to comfort B&S and/or Jeepster, CD's mass > produced from a > Vinyl source would be inferior to those from the Master > >Tape unless a great > deal of money was spent trying to digitally remaster the > sound. Also, > cateran on chat made it known that >Cdroms, played on a > regual CD player > which lack the ability to oversample them, sound > noticeably infererior (if > one is an audiophile). > > Hmmm... I'm afraid this point doesn't seem to make much > sense. If a CD > player reads a single circuit on a CD and the sum of all > the bits on that > circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end of > that circuit then it > will skip. All oversampling CD players do is attempt to > read the circuit x > number of times in an attempt to get it correct before > actually playing it, > they will also skip if unable to match the checksum. > Either a CD will skip, > or it'll sound exactly the same as it did when initially > recorded, in the > same way that if you take a binary computer program and > splat a few zeroes > into the middle of the file, it's not likely to make the > program just > slightly worse, just completely and untterly shaft it. I > don't know where > this sort of stuff comes from, but there was an article a > few years ago that > stated that should you keep your CD's in a fridge, they'd > sound better! I quite agree Keith. > > > Frankly too, I'm quite surprised bootlegs of Tigermilk > aren't already > readily available. I had a look in Barrowlands in Glasgow > a few months ago > just out of interest, and there aren't even any tapes, > never mind CD's. > Is the secondhand porno mag stall still there? > Indeed. What got me thinking however, is the size of the > wages bill that B+S > must accrue. Mick's previous band I remember were paying > themselves 150 quid > a week or so living expenses, so if you extrapolate that > to Belle and > Sebastian they must be paying a weekly wages bill of 1120 > quid, this is > quite considerable - so on that evidence it's probably > about time Tigermilk > received a legitamate release or bankruptcy looms! Yes, I'm just listening to Fat Larry's Band, there were loads of them, and more than one of them was overweight. I wonder what wages they paid themselves? I didn't know bands had wages until quite recently. I thought they just piled the money up on a table, argued about it and split up.It's tempting to pretend to be above wondering what kind of money Belle and Sebastian are making, but if the truth be told I am a very nosey bastard. Next time anyone encounters a drunkenn band member, please ask them. Otherwise we don't know whether to hate their guts or not. I am listening to fat Larry because it's on Stax Funk - Get Up and Get Down, another compilation from the Ace group of labels. I don't think it counts as Northern Soul but it's a nice listen and contains some mindblowing photographs of what appear to be lunatics. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 10:03:18 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 10:03:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I saw 'em first! Message-ID: <199801140937.JAA27526@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Chris wrote >>Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very >young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. Was that at the Venue, coz I would have been there among the more people?? I remember Thom going around handing out stickers (yay!!! - Belle and Sebastian stickers please!!) before the F&W came on. He recognised my mate as we were in the year below them at school (have I mentioned this before...) and said hello. He was a very polite young man and we wished him well. Had I known he was rebuffing the artistic efforts of his fans I'd have given "what for". B&S link.... The Frank and Walters came on (in orange dungarees for that demented play-group leader chic), picked up their instruments, bashed away at them for a while before stopping and exchanging instruments, get this - they were playing the wrong ones! I thought "this will never catch on"... Further B&S content... Just received an email from an old friend in Canada who I haven't seen for ages. Having found out from my homepage that I was into B&S he mentioned that they didn't do much for him but he had called his two new china fishes Belle and Sebastian. Then in what the British tabloids would doubtless dub a "shocking outburst" he went on to say "but I do *appreciate* having someone like Stuart around, if only to counteract the effect of bombastic morons like, say, Richard Ashcroft. " Truth will out! hot love Sebastian Johnston >---------- >From: Chris Leonard[SMTP:cleonard at xxx.COM] >Sent: 14 Jan 1998 09:33 >To: 'sinister at majordomo.net' >Subject: RE: Sinister: I saw 'em first! > >>> You bastard, I saw Radiohead years ago when they were called 'On A > >>>Friday' >>> and they used to play the Arse & Ferret in Oxford on the last Friday on > >>>the >>> month. I've bought all their records on the day they came out and I hate > >>>it >>> when 'new' fans like you try to steal my glory. Radiohead belong to me - >>> not you! >> >I saw radiohead in may 92 supporting "Fabulous" in King Tuts. I was >very young you realise. There where 6 people there and that Simon >Dudfield character danced like a chicken in front of everyone. Then >when "fabulous" were on someone walked up to him and punched him on the >face. It was dead funny. > >I wrote to radiohead and drew a picture of them, but they never wrote >back. > >Then I saw them again supporting the frank and walters. I was very >young you realise. There were more people there for some reason. > >Again, i wrote to radiohead and drew another picture of them but they >never wrote back. > >Now that radiohead are famous, everytime i see them on tv i think >they're laughing at me and my letters and my drawings. That thom boy is >>a bully and a bastard. >> >chris > >P.S. Dr Paul, I have examined the photos of the Belle And Sebastian band >closely and have constructed a masterplan.................... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:45:29 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:45:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie Message-ID: > ---------- > From: ELIZABETH DAPLYN > Sent: 14 January 1998 12:39 > To: 'sinister at majordomo.net' > Subject: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie > > Hello all you people. I am extremely worried about certain > members of the list who appear to be showing symptoms of technical > competence and awareness of mechanical issues in relation to music > recording systems: > > < the bits on that circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end > of that circuit then it will skip. All oversampling CD players do is > attempt to read the circuit a number of times in an attempt to get it > correct before actually playing it, they will also skip if unable to > match the checksum.>> > > This is very scary, and should be stopped as soon as possible, > preferably by electro-shock "therapy". Or with huge amounts of > psycho-repressive drugs. Or something. > On the subject of mental health, did anyone apart from > me and my friend Charlotte watch or remember the series Taking Over > The Asylum which was on a couple of years ago on BBC 2? For those who > didn't, it was about a double-glazing salesman who was also an amateur > radio DJ who got relegated to the post of spare-time Station Head at a > mental hospital in Glasgow, and the various japes (suicide, job loss, > Spike Milligan) which ensued. I just mention it because > a)it was fantashtic; > b)it had a kind of B&S feel to it, now that I come to think > about it, in the sort of hopelessly grim romanticism which we all know > and love. > > Regarding the Albert Hall: > > There are also choir seats and some really bad sightline seats > which you > can't really sell. > > >>I KNOW! I was in the Schools Prom in 1996 (ah, when I was but a wee > A-level student. How time flies) and the choir I was in was placed in > those selfsame choir stalls (not unnaturally) which proceeded to > terrify us: we were very high up, we were next to the bass organ pipes > (pretty fuckin' loud, since you ask), the leg-room is cripplingly > absent, and we were all in permanent danger of leaning too far out > while standing up to sing and falling right out of the bastards. > These pieces of furniture are NOT comfortable places to be, take my > word for it, darlings. > Having said that, however, the Hall itself is a lovely place, > although I'm not quite sure what purpose the giant ceramic mushrooms > suspended from the ceiling serve. > > Hmm, I really do think that Radiohead fans just don't like music > > >>Thank you very much, mister. I personally hate all tunefulness, > truth and beauty. I only like eardrum-shattering squeals and strange > clankings sounds, and would much prefer it if all pop music vocals > were done by the computerised voice from Fitter, Happier. Then, oh if > only, the world would be a much better place. Oh, and it goes without > saying that I revile Belle & Sebastian too. Obviously. I'll just go > off and drown some kittens now shall I, with Pablo Honey playing in > the background. > > If one must decide which cartoon characters the members of > Belle and > Sebastian have a resemblance to, then it recently occurred to me > how much > Stuart M. reminds me of Tintin, the reporter. > > >>No no no! Stuart is the cartoon Sebastian from the 80s series, > still looking for his mum and getting into amusing situations with > circuses and the like, > > and the Dog On Wheels is > Snowy > > >>OBVIOUSLY, it's Belle, the Pyreneean Mountain dog from the series. > Good grief, have you no soul? > People have written to the list about a 70s live-action series > called Belle & Sebastian, which I, not being born until 1978, did not > glimpse. Was the later cartoon series based on the live-action one, > or is it a particularly spooky coincidence? > > HoneyPaul, great online photties of the band at Manchester. Mmm, I > never knew looking up La Murdoch's nostrils would be so alluring... > Are there going to be more pictures? I particularly want to see the > lauded vixen Mick, and also Wee Chris's pantaloons. > > Anyway, I believe I'm supposed to be going down to the darkroom to > develop some pictures of a wall or something, so I'd better go now. > > Oh, can anyone recommend a starter album of Scott Walker? Neil Hannon > does sound awfully like him, doesn't he? > Sorry, I just realised I sent that off without my name or anything on the bottom, because the arseing AutoSignature on the college network is buggered. I've just had to create a new one. Ho hum. ByeBye, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ******************************* The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep. Robert Frost ******************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 14 12:45:29 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 12:45:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie Message-ID: > ---------- > From: ELIZABETH DAPLYN > Sent: 14 January 1998 12:39 > To: 'sinister at majordomo.net' > Subject: Ve Haff Ze Teknologie > > Hello all you people. I am extremely worried about certain > members of the list who appear to be showing symptoms of technical > competence and awareness of mechanical issues in relation to music > recording systems: > > < the bits on that circuit doesn't match the checksum stored at the end > of that circuit then it will skip. All oversampling CD players do is > attempt to read the circuit a number of times in an attempt to get it > correct before actually playing it, they will also skip if unable to > match the checksum.>> > > This is very scary, and should be stopped as soon as possible, > preferably by electro-shock "therapy". Or with huge amounts of > psycho-repressive drugs. Or something. > On the subject of mental health, did anyone apart from > me and my friend Charlotte watch or remember the series Taking Over > The Asylum which was on a couple of years ago on BBC 2? For those who > didn't, it was about a double-glazing salesman who was also an amateur > radio DJ who got relegated to the post of spare-time Station Head at a > mental hospital in Glasgow, and the various japes (suicide, job loss, > Spike Milligan) which ensued. I just mention it because > a)it was fantashtic; > b)it had a kind of B&S feel to it, now that I come to think > about it, in the sort of hopelessly grim romanticism which we all know > and love. > > Regarding the Albert Hall: > > There are also choir seats and some really bad sightline seats > which you > can't really sell. > > >>I KNOW! I was in the Schools Prom in 1996 (ah, when I was but a wee > A-level student. How time flies) and the choir I was in was placed in > those selfsame choir stalls (not unnaturally) which proceeded to > terrify us: we were very high up, we were next to the bass organ pipes > (pretty fuckin' loud, since you ask), the leg-room is cripplingly > absent, and we were all in permanent danger of leaning too far out > while standing up to sing and falling right out of the bastards. > These pieces of furniture are NOT comfortable places to be, take my > word for it, darlings. > Having said that, however, the Hall itself is a lovely place, > although I'm not quite sure what purpose the giant ceramic mushrooms > suspended from the ceiling serve. > > Hmm, I really do think that Radiohead fans just don't like music > > >>Thank you very much, mister. I personally hate all tunefulness, > truth and beauty. I only like eardrum-shattering squeals and strange > clankings sounds, and would much prefer it if all pop music vocals > were done by the computerised voice from Fitter, Happier. Then, oh if > only, the world would be a much better place. Oh, and it goes without > saying that I revile Belle & Sebastian too. Obviously. I'll just go > off and drown some kittens now shall I, with Pablo Honey playing in > the background. > > If one must decide which cartoon characters the members of > Belle and > Sebastian have a resemblance to, then it recently occurred to me > how much > Stuart M. reminds me of Tintin, the reporter. > > >>No no no! Stuart is the cartoon Sebastian from the 80s series, > still looking for his mum and getting into amusing situations with > circuses and the like, > > and the Dog On Wheels is > Snowy > > >>OBVIOUSLY, it's Belle, the Pyreneean Mountain dog from the series. > Good grief, have you no soul? > People have written to the list about a 70s live-action series > called Belle & Sebastian, which I, not being born until 1978, did not > glimpse. Was the later cartoon series based on the live-action one, > or is it a particularly spooky coincidence? > > HoneyPaul, great online photties of the band at Manchester. Mmm, I > never knew looking up La Murdoch's nostrils would be so alluring... > Are there going to be more pictures? I particularly want to see the > lauded vixen Mick, and also Wee Chris's pantaloons. > > Anyway, I believe I'm supposed to be going down to the darkroom to > develop some pictures of a wall or something, so I'd better go now. > > Oh, can anyone recommend a starter album of Scott Walker? Neil Hannon > does sound awfully like him, doesn't he? > Sorry, I just realised I sent that off without my name or anything on the bottom, because the arseing AutoSignature on the college network is buggered. I've just had to create a new one. Ho hum. ByeBye, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ******************************* The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep. Robert Frost ******************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lgirva13 at xxx.edu Thu Jan 15 03:34:02 1998 From: lgirva13 at xxx.edu (Laurel Girvan) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 22:34:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: post craziness In-Reply-To: <980114203039_1227544551@mrin39.mx> Message-ID: HoneyPaul!!!! Please stop this out-of-control multiplication of messages!!!! If it means keeping them out of dark closets together, then so be it! love and kisses, laurel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Jan 15 09:22:39 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:22:39 GMT Subject: Sinister: Tiramisu and other fetishes In-Reply-To: <199801150026.AAA14441@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801150026.AAA14441@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34bdce9e.1727324@email.mcmail.com> Multiple messages a-go-go, Ben wrote: >Ann Sexton's You've Been Gone Too Long. YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! >On a different note - Guy Chadwick once sang "I don't know >why I love you, your face is like a foreign food". It's crap >and it doesn't even rhyme. Hey - I'd forgotten that one. I must say if I ever ever met anyone whose face (or any other body part) was tiramisu they could have my hand in marriage. Or my hand in anywhere for that matter. Katrina wrote: >I'm sorry to pick on Northy.... You damn well should be, poor little guy cries himself to sleep every night and it's all your fault. Especially so soon after ...y'know... Portillo. Honey wrote. >Too pornograhic. Bog shot at aftershow. Tag and Hugh. Nuff said. Goddamn paparazzi....dirty slut, Mitchell - you love it! Who was it who said that Seething Wells had got the average B&S fan sussed? Speak for yourself, pal - have you NO dignity? Stephen 'Pantalones de amor' Trousse was asking about Saint Lucy. I can inform you that the original Saint Lucy saw some guy's todger, screamed 'it doth offend me' and gouged out her eyes. The modern day Saint Lucy, however, wants it to be known that she does not in any way condone such behaviour, and that 'the merest sniff of meat and two veg, and I can't wait to have it off'. Oh and Beth, I don't eat porage. I prefer a nice ripe melon first thing in the morning. Love Tag xx ....they call me mister fahrenheit ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Thu Jan 15 10:27:17 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:27:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails (again) and fascism Message-ID: OK - veterans of the list (the ones who can remember the broccoli debate, say) will also remember this happening before. For some reason I can't fathom, a remote mailer goes bad and repeatedly throws back mails from the list TO the list, which bounce back to the remote mailer ad infinitum. Good plan. The tell-tale sign is multiple footers. Personal mail to/from the site wasn't affected last time. Words fail me as to the remote mail software that can be so stupid as to do this, if indeed my diagnosis is correct. If anyone has a clue about how this happens please mail me (once). The offending remote mailer was "webtv.net" (ho ho). What a surprise, not a Unix/sendmail location. Thanks to people who alerted me. I saw this late on last night, stamped on the heads of the subscribers from WebTV (who I am copying this too and must emphasise is highly unlikely to be their fault - it's their ISPs), and made mails from this location "taboo" on the list to stop the bouncy-bouncies. I can't tell which of the two WebTVers caused it so I'm afraid I've had to remove you both. Am happy to experiment privately with you for a limited period and in a controlled way that people on the list won't see - we can do this - mail me. But, to be honest, last time we didn't find a solution so, erm, if anyone else has any experience of this please let me know. Life is short, I still love you all, and sorry for the hassle. Two more things: STOP SENDING UNSUBSCRIBES/SUBSCRIBES TO THE LIST! Can I write this any bigger? Read my FAQ on the WWW pages. This is a B&S list. I hope you have all changed your middle names by now. Please keep a focus - sure talk about other bands but let's not go off in a spiral. Let's not have any more "Radiohead are crap/good" stuff - I mean, lord, I have strong opinions about this and if I can keep schtum so can you :) Just because it's not very entertaining. If you're going to post, please: 1. Either (a) talk vaguely about B&S, Murdoch's underpants, Glasgow or who we like to listen to; or (b) post something very very funny about your nose - funniness overrides the need for relevancy but you have to have a certificate in rib-tickling. Oh and swearing's good too. Tag, Susannah, Keith, Peter Miller and Chris Leonard have carte-blanche to post stuff about their hamsters because they make me giggle. They have earned their spurs. 2. Don't slag off people. I get angry at this. Be nice. Mailing lists often degenerate into mindless boring feuds. Stating strong opinions is fine, in fact a necessity, so don't think I want to make this the Magic Roundabout. 3. Don't quote a huge message and then say "Yeah". Take some time to use your editor. 432 are receiving it the other end so make it easy to read. 4. Remember who speaks for who. I speak for no-one but me - nothing to do with the record company or fanclub although they are chums. David also doesn't speak for the record company. Katrina sometimes does and sometimes doesn't. They are both doing a wonderful job so send them flowers every day please. 5. Don't tell me I'm a git. Remember the mailing list is run on borrowed resources from my employer, in my spare time. If it explodes into something too big it might have to go one day so that I keep my job. It needs a focus. Some of you will not agree with this and indeed hate me, but let's just watch and see. 6. Keep posting. Don't let me put you off. Do it now. Right that's me off your birthday presents list. I'm off to practice being Mr SweetnessAndLight again. Dina will now take over as Hit Man. Be afraid. HoneyGrump -- Smithers, release the hounds. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Thu Jan 15 10:07:53 1998 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:07:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Godlike Genius of Scott Walker (N&BISCO) Message-ID: <01BD21A0.BE07AD20@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Dina Passman wrote: i know i will offend some by saying this, but the walker brothers kick scott's solo ass by a mile. (i have yet to hear the jacques brel record-so hold your tongues!) You obviously haven't listened to much solo Scott Walker, then. All of his classic early lp's (1 - 4) contain at least 2 or 3 Jaques Brel songs. And they are all quite wonderful, especially, as Adam says, 'Scott 4'. Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 15 09:55:20 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 09:55:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Guy Chadwick Message-ID: <01bd219b$b0d3f410$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I love the House Of Love, only recently someone played me the >single 'Feel' from Babe Rainbow, it's rather lovely I think, I don't >have the CD of Babe Rainbow, if anyone has it and doesn't want it >they could always send it to me, which would be nice. > >That line above is from the b side of Destroy The Heart isn't it, >great song I think. Bah bollocks to all of you. > >JJ >xxx Babe Rainbow's fucking top, and has been selling in second hand shops in droves for about a fiver for years. Indeed the increasingly desparate House of Love at this point released a version of You don't Understand where ALL the copies were signed by the band (must've been like writing lines). It's a lovely album, and yeah, it rings a bell, the B side job, "Blind" is it? Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sami.keinanen at xxx.fi Thu Jan 15 10:46:17 1998 From: sami.keinanen at xxx.fi (Sami Keinanen) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:46:17 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Brian from Scotland Message-ID: <01bd21a2$cee62610$4e739cc3@opetus04.tk-opisto.fi> I lost your email-adress. Could you please write me to my email, so that I can write you back. Couldn't find your adress from University of Edinburgh pages. Sami sami.keinanen at tk-opisto.fi ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 15 10:44:51 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 10:44:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails (again) and fascism Message-ID: <01bd21a2$9bdb21d0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >STOP SENDING UNSUBSCRIBES/SUBSCRIBES TO THE LIST! Can I write >this any bigger? Read my FAQ on the WWW pages. I'll say it bigger Paul, for those of who read with HTML or Outlook compatible readers: STOP SENDING UNSUBSCRIBES/SUBSCRIBES to the LIST! Read the FAW on the WWW pages! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Jan 15 11:02:00 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:02:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Potato head + Ultrasound References: <01bd20f1$bfbca3a0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BDECA8.77CA@virgin.net> Keith Watson wrote: > 1. It appears that Ciara McLaverty is in fact the cover star on Tigermilk > and Dog on Wheels. Well that about clears that one up. ummm, sorry Keith, that's actually Jo, an ex-girlfriend of Stuart's ... i'm sorry for being so anal everyone. cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 15 11:37:19 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:37:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Guy Chadwick In-Reply-To: <34BD2F71.7031@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: > > > 3 Guy Chadwick - what a tosser pt4: "It's going to be a long hot > > summer/gonna stay in gonna be a bummer" > > ***by the way, isn't this an allusion to the summer / bummer rhyme used by love on forever changes and marc bolan somewhere else? therefire (arguably) it's an in-joke and not necessarily crap*** alastair> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 15 11:40:15 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:40:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: more Chadwick In-Reply-To: <34BD3149.3229@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: > > oh dear. no. > > The b sides album is very very good and quite mellow in parts, > you are thinking of the first Fontana album which really did fail > to live up to expectations. ***actually, i wasn't: i'm not entirely senile, and can distinguish between albums: the b-sides album (with the dog in shades and copies of lolita, catcher in the rye etc. on the front) was largely dreadful: the fontana album had bad points (the pointless rerecording of the dreadful one whose title i forget but which has the line "i came a cropper when i trusted you"), but was ok: not as good as the first one or the early creation singles, tho. alastair I still liked it though, hey, I was > a student at the time, we all LOOKED like Guy chadwick with those > black woolly jumpers and things > > JJ > xxx > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 15 11:46:19 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:46:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails (again) and fascism In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > 1. Either (a) talk vaguely about B&S, Murdoch's underpants, Glasgow will the house of love do? sorry alastair> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk Thu Jan 15 12:10:59 1998 From: S.D.Maclean at xxx.uk (Stuart Maclean) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:10:59 GMT Subject: Sinister: more Chadwick In-Reply-To: (amh20@hermes.cam.ac.uk) References: Message-ID: <13549.199801151210@penelope.ecs.soton.ac.uk> If this indeed a HOL free for all, then I'd like to add that at least the Butterfly album had "In a Room" on it, a gem and as good as any HOL song I'd say. I have the Peel Session version too (natch ;-))) Hmm, as this list is actually aimed at that other band, see in the NME someone desparately looking for TM. Wonder if he just wanted a tape or the real thing ... -- Stuart ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plastik at xxx.com Thu Jan 15 12:47:42 1998 From: plastik at xxx.com (dina passman) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 07:47:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The Godlike Genius of Scott Walker (N&BISCO) References: <01BD21A0.BE07AD20@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Message-ID: <34BE056E.6ECD@erols.com> Nigel Turner wrote: > You obviously haven't listened to much solo Scott Walker, then. All of his classic early lp's (1 - 4) contain at least 2 or 3 Jaques Brel songs. And they > are all quite wonderful, especially, as Adam says, 'Scott 4'. > > Nigel > xx nigel, isn't this getting just a bit TOO exciting??? let me explain something to anyone who has been paying any attention to the walker brothers / scott walker debate : 1) i realize that it is not the reigning opinion that the walker brothers are of superior quality to to scott walker's solo material. 2) i like pop schmaltz 3) funny how someone here who knows nothing about me can assume things about what i have and have not listened to much of. 4) preference is a beautiful thing, don't you think, nigel? lovingly > dina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Thu Jan 15 12:55:31 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:55:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Lip Trumpet Message-ID: See if your singing "Judy.." to yourself do you apply lip trumpet? Or is this just me? I saw a fellow singing in the Scotia bar once with his guitar. He broke into the most fantastic lip trumpet solo, in the style of Miles Davis. That's the only time i've Been to the Scotia. The singer was fantastic but I nearly got a doin for not knowing the half time Celtic score. I can do the start of Minnie the Moocher like the Blues Brothers. I can also do a wah-wah effect. Is lip trumpet how stuart tells Mick what he wants to hear? Or does he notate? Hmm i notice Isobel has a wee music pad in front of her in one of the photees. Does she jam good? With weird and gilly? It's a bit quite today after last nights madness, isn't it? I've nearly comprised this whole letter with questions, haven't I? Love without sound? > Tag, Susannah, Keith, Peter Miller and Chris Leonard have > carte-blanche to post stuff about their hamsters because they make me > giggle. They have earned their spurs. And I bet we're all wicked in bed too, eh big boy? What does carte-blanche mean? I used to have a hamster called Tom Jones. I had it for a year, then I lost interest in it and all its fur fell out. A friend of mine has had 9 hamsters, and they all killed themselfs. One of them impaled itself on a bit of cage that it had chewn through and bent to a dangerous angle. Another of them chewed through a power cable. Johnny 'Belle' Mathis ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Jan 15 12:28:25 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:28:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tag wrote : Message-ID: <01BD21B1.14647DA0@pc7628> >Jeez, >What's going on? I'm now getting as many digests as I was getting >mails two weeks ago. Don't you people ever sleep? Funny you should say that, but I'm a genuine insomniac who is currently still f***ed off my head on last nights Nitrazepam thinking, "mmmmm...It's going to take me at least till 5o'clock in the morning to read this back-log of digests. Actually it's not very funny at all, but i'm sure all you sick bastards will have a giggle at my expense. -- Adrian Evans ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 15 12:11:45 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 12:11:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Chadders Message-ID: <01bd21ae$bf656000$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> ***Actually I think that both the B-Sides album and the Second Album are both brilliant, there's some great songs on both, and the B side album contains many songs that were intended for the second album anyway, also songs they did on their Peel Sessions (that Don't turn blue one). That "Came a cropper" one is "The Hedonist" which is actually a dead early song dating to the first release of "Shine on", there's also a cracking load of songs, Plastic; Flow; Welt; Nothing to me which are completely Ace too. Personally I'd say the House of Love only became shite at the time of the fourth LP which I remember came out the same time as the first Verve LP. I bought them both and was heartily disappointed by both of them. Another little gem which is worth paying a quid for the in the bargain bins is the 12" of "The Girl with the Lonliest Eyes" which has two amazing Chadwick original B sides on it as well as a brilliant cover of the Chills' Pink Frost. The B-Sides LP also contains a cracking picture of Chadwick on the inner sleeve in an amazing "vertical arms" pose. And the cover is a picture of his dog, "Sly Chadwick". Haha.*** Sorry, no hamster content. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Thu Jan 15 14:01:38 1998 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:01:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: prospero nuevo!?! Message-ID: <4768F6932A9@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> I think that means "happy new year!" in Mexican or something, at least that's what my baby brother put on all his Xmas cards. S'nice to be back on the list again after the holidays, with a whole new list of (increasingly anal) topics to wade through. A couple of thoughts: A big hello to all the sweet kids I met in Manchester, and to all those I didn't 'cause I was working both afternoons. Saturday night sure was pretty shambolic, though still perversely enjoyable, but, jeez, Sunday was something, Seems the whole "Was it crap/a rip-off/illegal/a disgrace?" angle's been covered while I was away, and that I may be an easy pleased, indie-schmindie, hopelessl devotee, but I'd happily pay twenty-odd quid again and again for them to start playing 'Modern Rock Song' as I ran in from the cold, and for Stuart M to sing the line about Mark Twain just as we arrived, breathless, at the top of the stairs. Please don't anyone rise to the bait and write in to the weeklies about the bad reviews. Tony Naylor's Saturday piece was pretty spot-on in parts, and Steven Wells... Don't hate him 'cause of his abonimable taste. Don't hate him 'cause he thinks he's the Bill Hicks of music journalism. Just despise him for inflicting the terrible mugshot damage above his column every week, in all its mono-brow glory. Tweezers, man, tweezers. Oh, and can anybody help me out? Suggestions for things to ask Steven Pastel tonite, when I've to interview him for the paper, would be much appreciated, so's I don't just blurt out crap like "Gee whizz, you know Steve malkmus, wow". Yours gratefully, Joseph ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Jan 15 14:46:31 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:46:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails (again) and fascism In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Honey wrote: > OK - veterans of the list (the ones who can remember the broccoli > debate, say) will also remember this happening before. For some > reason I can't fathom, a remote mailer goes bad and repeatedly throws > back mails from the list TO the list, which bounce back to the remote > mailer ad infinitum. Good plan. The tell-tale sign is multiple > footers. Personal mail to/from the site wasn't affected last time. Can't the mailing software add a header line such as "X-List: sinister" to all messages sent out from the list, and reject any incoming mail with that header (ie. bounced messages)? Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Abandabag: n. The suitcase that keeps going around and around | the luggage carousel ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 15 14:27:14 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:27:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pastels? Shite more like Message-ID: <01bd21c1$aca6a8d0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Oh, and can anybody help me out? Suggestions for things to ask Steven Pastel tonite, when I've to interview him for the paper, would be much appreciated, so's I don't just blurt out crap like "Gee whizz, you know Steve malkmus, wow". I was toying with something to the effect of "How do you manage to get people to buy your records after 10 years of proven shiteness?" But I've decided to stick with the more friendly "What's your favourite colour and food?" Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Thu Jan 15 15:07:59 1998 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:07:59 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Pastels? Shite more like In-Reply-To: <01bd21c1$aca6a8d0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <477AB052D1F@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Smart-arse Watson wrote: I was toying with something to the effect of "How do you manage to get people to buy your records after 10 years of proven shiteness?" But I've decided to stick with the more friendly "What's your favourite colour and food?" Fuck, Keith, you must be psychic. That's always my opening gambit. To break the ice, y'know. Incidentally, my lovely friend Emma once did a snail-mail interview with Stuart M for her fanzine, which subsequently folded before she published it. This too included questions about food. In particular food colouring. Stuart typed his answers to her questions neatly and sent them back. Emma now hordes the piece of paper and only shows it to her special friends. Methinks it must be worth something, no? Anybody who knows Emma, particularly Julian, will have no difficulty in believing the wild tale about her pursuit of the boy Murdoch in the Borderline to secure said interview. Lovely as she is, she sometimes goes a bit Julie Burchill. But less "I, Sociopath", than "I, drunken Wigan psychopath". Love you really Emmy, Joseph ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Thu Jan 15 15:06:10 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:06:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails (again) and fascism In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Rod Begbie wrote: > Can't the mailing software add a header line such as "X-List: sinister" to > all messages sent out from the list, and reject any incoming mail with > that header (ie. bounced messages)? Not bad - I've put that in place because it's easy with this software. I think it might depend how the bounce works but we'll see. This copied to the list to let people know it's happening if anyone cares. If it all falls in a heap it's OK - messages will get sent to me for approval and I will approve them and remove the safety-net again. Thanks Rodipoos. Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jacques.buron at xxx.fr Thu Jan 15 17:16:02 1998 From: jacques.buron at xxx.fr (Stéphane) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:16:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Pastels? Shite more like References: <477AB052D1F@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34BE4452.2CB6@smtp.wanadoo.fr> > Watson wrote: > I was toying with something to the effect of > "How do you manage to get people to buy your records after 10 years > of proven shiteness?" But I've decided to stick with the more > friendly "What's your favourite colour and food?" Seriously : couldn't you ask Stephen if he still wants to write a book with Stuart David, as it's written in the EXCELLENT "Crème Anglaise" interview???? Stéphane -- " Get me away from here, I'm dying..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Jan 15 10:52:13 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:52:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Scott W, Steven W References: Message-ID: <34BDEA5D.65484335@colon.net.> ELIZABETH DAPLYN wrote: Oh, can anyone recommend a starter album of Scott Walker? DOCTOR RINGPIECE writes: Tilt As for Steven Wells, I think it's a well written piece, in so far as nobody who starts reading it will stop before the end, thus inspiring loads of people to go out and tape their mates' B&S records. The Lord moves in mysterious ways. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Jan 15 10:49:14 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 11:49:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Northern Soul References: <9800148848.AA884811803@ccgw4.lse.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34BDE9AA.D97BBBCF@colon.net.> M.CLARK2 at lse.ac.uk wrote: > > > Popular opinion has northern soul as the > description for the > thousands of Tamla imitators of the mid to late > 60s. > The scene, as such, started in London's Soho > clubs in the > mid 60s, playing mainly Motown. However, as is > the way with > things in London, the scene was a fad and soon > dissipated, > largely due to the growing dominance of heavy > rock which > killed off a lot of the mod scene, and which > placed a rather > over zealous importance on serious music. > Lest we forget...Black Sabbath were born from this self same conflict. Ozzy Osbourne was a keen soul fan (you can just about hear it in his voice) and Geezer Butler was a keen blues enthusiast. They used to got to all-nighters, Ozzy to soul ones, Geezer to blues ones, and then glare at each other on the way home in the translucent Birmingham dawn light. The rest is history... Thank you for this enlightening piece on Northern Soul. It has certainly cleared up some doubts. Doctor Ringpiece ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Jan 15 17:49:48 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:49:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Multiple mails (again) and fascism References: <01bd21a2$9bdb21d0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BE4C3C.39EE@virgin.net> Keith Watson wrote: > > >STOP SENDING UNSUBSCRIBES/SUBSCRIBES TO THE LIST! Can I write > >this any bigger? Read my FAQ on the WWW pages. > > > I'll say it bigger Paul, for those of who read with HTML or Outlook > compatible readers: > > STOP SENDING UNSUBSCRIBES/SUBSCRIBES to the LIST! > > Read the FAW on the WWW pages! > Read the FAWhat's???? can i just say publ;icly, that Keith wears turtleneck tops with the utmost of style ... cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Thu Jan 15 17:49:28 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 17:49:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: influences and a request for some taping References: <34B9E5D0.FC1ACFC4@totalweb.co.uk> <34BA58A8.E74@virgin.net> <34BA921F.C7191620@totalweb.co.uk> <34BB9F77.50BE9B20@colon.net.> Message-ID: <34BE4C28.6A9D@virgin.net> PM - AU wrote: > Any news about the stolen goodies? I dreamt about it you > know. Quite a good one. Been having a lot of funny dreams > since I moved house. Spooky. Peter, do you care to share???? Cheers, katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Thu Jan 15 17:16:03 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 15:16:03 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Creme Anglaise Message-ID: <199801151523.PAA26562@gemeos.electus.com.br> > Seriously : couldn't you ask Stephen if he still wants to write a book with Stuart David, > as it's written in the EXCELLENT "Crème Anglaise" interview???? I lost the "Sinister mail" from the Guy/Girl (can't remember ) who runs Creme Anglaise. How can i get a copy ? Please..... send me a mail. * * * * * Ivo A P Escossia * * escossia at electus.com.br * * * * * * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Jan 15 19:09:52 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:09:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Guy Chadwick/Scott Walker References: <01bd219b$b0d3f410$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34BE5F00.E554F84@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > Babe Rainbow's fucking top, and has been selling in second > hand shops in > droves for about a fiver for years. Indeed the > increasingly desparate House > of Love at this point released a version of You don't > Understand where ALL > the copies were signed by the band (must've been like > writing lines). It's a > lovely album, and yeah, it rings a bell, the B side job, > "Blind" is it? > > Keith. > > A friend of mine once bought about a hundred and thirty-two different versions of "The Beatles and the Stones". That song had some good lines in it as well, put the "v" in vietnam and so on. I enjoyed his argument with that Bickers fella. His guitar playing was like a disease apparently. I think drugs played a part in the whole affair, including the purchase of multiple versions of that song.These multiple messages are a bit alarming. I don't mind when it's other people's, but when it's mine I think what a boring bastard I am. Which may or may not be the case. I don't know whether Gary Kemp is married to Pepsi or Shirley or both, but they were in Hello magazine. That Walker Brothers CD is dead good, especially the interview at the end. Poptastic. In Nik Cohn's book AWOPBOPALOPBOPALOPBOPALOPBOPALOPBAMBOO! he expresse the opinion that the Walker Brothers stuff is great, and then goes on to say how disappointed he is that Scott Walker went on to dedicate himself to the production of "flowerpots". At no point does he explain the meaning of "flowerpots", but I think he means records with big orchestras on them. Personally I like the big orchestras on SW's records, and see no similarity to flowerpots, but it's a nice image and I've been using it a lot ever since I read it. Are Belle and Sebastian in the flowerpot business? After all ,they do use cellos and trumpets and stuff. My favourite Scott Walker composition, and coincidentally the biggest flowerpot of all time is "The Old Man's Back Again (Dedicated to the Neo-Stalinist Regime)". It's truly funky. I listen to Scott Walker quite a lot, being a flowerpot kind of guy. The fornnt cover of "After the Lights Go Out" reveals Scott to be in posession of a very tight pair of trousers that reveal where he keeps his maracas. And the liner notes are written by the equally exquisite Mike Read. Whereas the "Boy Child" notes come courtesy of Marc Almond. Peter "Runaroooooooouuuuuuund........NOW!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jacques.buron at xxx.fr Thu Jan 15 20:15:40 1998 From: jacques.buron at xxx.fr (Stéphane) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:15:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Creme Anglaise References: <199801151523.PAA26562@gemeos.electus.com.br> Message-ID: <34BE6E6C.6DE5@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Hi! > I lost the "Sinister mail" from the Guy/Girl (can't remember ) who > runs Creme Anglaise. > How can i get a copy ? > Please..... send  me a mail. > Her name is Anne and her address is aroels at epf.fr ... but she must have already read your message on the list. And by the way there is a B&S interview in this issue of Creme Anglaise! (and we all were in Manchester, you must have met us / her) Stéphane Anne, je te fais de la pub! Ca vaut bien une bière au Popin, non? See you!!! -- " Get me away from here, I'm dying..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jacques.buron at xxx.fr Thu Jan 15 20:41:14 1998 From: jacques.buron at xxx.fr (Stéphane) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:41:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: non b&s related, help? References: Message-ID: <34BE746A.26E3@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Madame Cholet wrote: > > Anyone who can help, it would be ace.....If you were reviewing Autour De > Lucie (not sure of spelling here...) what bands could they be compared > to...in the same vein of....along the same lines of...... > Autour de Lucie (good spelling) cant be compared to Stereolab but their music sounds sometimes like a few Ivy tracks. One of the best french indie-pop bands (with Dominique A, Katerine and... well,that's all, i think). They released 2 records : Immobile (with one song produced by Michael Head, by the way) and L'échappée belle... Very quiet, sweet voice, nice melodies... Both of the records are worth buying (if you can find them!!!). And to the listees who are or will be in Paris next week, they'll play a gig at La Loco, on thursday (22nd)!!! Stéphane -- " Get me away from here, I'm dying..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sallydoll at xxx.net Thu Jan 15 21:16:58 1998 From: sallydoll at xxx.net (Acrylica) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 21:16:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Newcastle B&S fans... please? Message-ID: <199801152138.VAA12708@boober.lineone.net> Hiya, I'm going off the list soon, so if anyone can help me here I'd love a quick reply! OK, I live in Newcastle and I don't know of anyone who's even heard of B&S, let alone likes them (I can't convert them - goths, death-metallers, you name them, they're my friends!). But, my friend saw a boy hanging around he residential bit at Northumbria Unviversity the other day, in the same B&S cartoon shirt that I've got. Now, I was dead chuffed about this, because statistically there should only be like one B&S fan every 30 miles or so ! Soo... does anyone who likes B&S (well, obviously u must to be reading this!) live in Newcastle or know of anyone who does who likes them? Thanks for listening - I'm gonna miss u all when I go! Lots of love and (geordie) iguanas... Acrylica sallydoll at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Thu Jan 15 21:32:32 1998 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:32:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Do I really have this much time on my hands??? Message-ID: <01BD21D3.302E5200@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> OK, this is the letter I'm sending to Jeb Brien, producer of Sessions at W. 54. I just have his fax number, so I can't really send a formal posted letter. January 15, 1998 Jeb Brien Producer, Sessions at W. 54 Dear Mr. Brien, First of all the existence of Sessions at West 54th is in my opinion an excellent and unique program which gives the national community the ability to appreciate lesser known musical acts. However, I would like to express my dissapointment as to the cancellation of the Belle and Sebastian sessions. They are an excellent popular music band who, in my opinion, are unique even for Sessions at W. 54 since they are very new and might appeal to a slightly younger audience (the comparable band in my mind that you did air was the Tindersticks). I had been extraordinarily excited about the prospects of seeing them on television since they are from Scotland, and have only played in the US on one occasion (which was when their session was recorded). I do hope that others like myself will send you letters in support of Belle and Sebastian, and that you will eventually reconsider airing the program. Sincerely, Matthew A. Neimark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From YamaEye at xxx.com Thu Jan 15 21:54:49 1998 From: YamaEye at xxx.com (Yama Eye) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:54:49 EST Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian on Matador Records! Message-ID: <927831e8.34be85ac@aol.com> As a complete lurker on the Sinister list.. only a few of you know me. so I guess this is my first posting.... not a bad one I think... I got this fantabulous information from the Matador Records website at http://www.matador.recs.com it's on the Bulletin Board section.. Incidently Gerard Cosloy is the co-president of Matador. There you are Matt Burgess Subject: Belle & Sebastian From: Gerard Cosloy (gerardc at escape.com) Date: 1/15/98 After months of speculation, we're pleased to announce that Matador will be releasing the next Belle & Sebastian album in North America, sometime this spring....no exact dates or titles yet, but we'll let you know. Said album will be relased in the United Kingdom on Jeepster Recordings. This album will be a joint Matador/Capitol release, much like the JSBX, Pavement, P5 and Bettie Serveert albums were... the album will be distributed via EMD, though Matador direct sales will be handling it as well. When we have more details, we will pass them on. We're hopeful that Belle & Sebastian will be returning to the U.S. for selected dates later this year. if you need more information about Belle & Sebastian, their website is not a bad plae to start: http://www.totalweb.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ GC (Gerard Cosloy) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluevelour at xxx.com Thu Jan 15 22:43:56 1998 From: bluevelour at xxx.com (mayfly the fly) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 14:43:56 PST Subject: Sinister: Re:Sessions DownLow Message-ID: <19980115224356.25423.qmail@hotmail.com> I spoke with someone at the soon to be announced US label and the band will be on the show soon, probably later this month. There was a bit of a tie up because the show was recorded such a long time ago and is just airing now, but it's worked out, and it doesn't seem like a big deal. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Thu Jan 15 23:33:07 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 18:33:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re:Sessions DownLow In-Reply-To: <19980115224356.25423.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, mayfly the fly wrote: > > I spoke with someone at the soon to be announced US label and the band > will be on the show soon, probably later this month. There was a bit of > a tie up because the show was recorded such a long time ago and is just > airing now, but it's worked out, and it doesn't seem like a big deal. > hmm.i just checked out their site a little bit ago and there was no announcement..it had shows listed until june but ive noticed that our pbs station doesnt show the one its supposed to on the right date..right now all our pbs station is worth while for is that they started showing 'taggart' again..i missed how they explained his death though..hmm.. roberta ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 00:14:20 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 00:14:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: eughhhh!!!! Message-ID: <199801160012.AAA20189@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >Hmm, as this list is actually aimed at that other band, see in the NME >someone desparately looking for TM. Wonder if he just wanted a tape >or the real thing ... > >-- >Stuart One of the things that put me off buying Tigermilk when Keith told me to go get a copy was the albums' name: A euphemism (Tag - you started it) for SPERM (eughhh). All I could think of was a scene in a US sitcom I'd seen a couple of years ago, in which there was a scene where a couple of 'Jock' types who were about to go 'out on the pull', who referred to themselves as spreading their 'Tiger's Milk' among the female populace. TADAAAAA!!!(fanfare) TIGERMILK. I take it this person in the NME seeks the vinyl variety. Bye Again, The Laird of East Fountainbridge ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 00:14:28 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 00:14:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: MTV and a resemblance. . . Message-ID: <199801160012.AAA20213@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >I saw the video for 'Century of Fakers' last night on MTV's Alternative >Nation, it was pretty mad...what i want to know is... Then Northy said, >ALL I CAN SAY IS - IF YOU WANNA SEE A B&S VIDEO THEN WATCH MTV >ALTERNATIVE NATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >Once again - whilst writing my emails I heard the opening tones of >Century of Fakers. Not thinking much of this as it is lodged >permanently in my CD player, I realised I was listening to MTV. Funny that, but nearly every time I watch MTV there's usually just a pile of shit on (either that or 'Lucky Man' by The Verve). I've been praying I'll tune in on one of these occasional B&S vids, but as yet nae luck. > If one must decide which cartoon characters the members of Belle and >Sebastian have a resemblance to, then it recently occurred to me how much >Stuart M. reminds me of Tintin, the reporter. Yes, and the Dog On Wheels is >Snowy, but I can not think who would be Captain Haddock. . . suggestions? >>From what I hear of Chris Geddes and his bucket, he might be suitable. Chris Geddes could be Oor Wullie from the Sunday Post (as Scottish as Barrs Irn Bru). He counts a bucket as one of his mates. Made from Girders, The Laird of East Fountainbridge. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 00:14:24 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 00:14:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Lip Trumpet Message-ID: <199801160012.AAA20198@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >See if your singing "Judy.." to yourself do you apply lip trumpet? Or >is this just me? Is that some kind of medication? Christopher "Snatch" Leonard said: >they were the only two people in the building that didn't have mullets. >Scary thought. I had a mini mulletŠ What the fuck's a mini mullet? When I looked up my mini Chambers Dictionary the definition of a mullet was a small edible sea fish. Was it a snack to have with a pint or did you throw it on stage? >Oh no, don't get me wrong about that, it's not the fact that Steven Wells >gives them a slagging, it's the fact that you know what he's going to have >written before he rights it, Shouldn't that be Lefts it? (sorry Keith) Lippy Lairdie. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Fri Jan 16 00:48:17 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 16:48:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: cover girls Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0308B053@amerwksnt01.xil.com> > 1. It appears that Ciara McLaverty is in fact the cover star on Tigermilk > and Dog on Wheels. Well that about clears that one up. >ummm, sorry Keith, that's actually Jo, an ex-girlfriend of Stuart's ... which brings me back to a previous question of mine which went unanswered -- Can anybody tell me who the cover stars on IYFS, LLPJ and 3.6.9. are? Oh I don't know why I care, i just do:-) Cheers. prospero ano nuevo por todos! taracita (who had been signing her name in e-mails to friends as "tarabelle" for the past few weeks and didn't realize the connection....hmmm) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Fri Jan 16 01:22:40 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:22:40 EST Subject: Sinister: Sarah records Message-ID: <3f26ec7d.34beb665@aol.com> DOH! *everybody* knows that Brighter Now by Razorcuts was on Creation" Well, I was either confusing the Creation compilation (circa '87?) with the Sarah compilation of the same period (can't remember the title, but it had a blue and red cover, I seem to remember), or I was thinking of Sad Kaleidoscope from the Sha-La-La flexi shared with Talulah Gosh. Which no doubt you're now going to tell me was not by Razorcuts, or was not shared with TG, or never existed. Hey, and indeed, ho. Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Fri Jan 16 02:43:37 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 20:43:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: The Matador Man Himself SPEAKS! Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 3145 bytes Desc: not available URL: From klas.ericsson at xxx.se Fri Jan 16 08:32:18 1998 From: klas.ericsson at xxx.se (Klas Ericsson) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:32:18 +0200 Subject: Sinister: How I made my Penis (working for Notcutts???) Message-ID: OK! Sorry fot the subjectline. I´ve been working on a tabloid!!!! If any one takes offense - forgive me. But it´s really natural, you know! Nothy wrote: >oh and if Belle and Sebastian are reading this - I was Radiohead >obsessed after OKC - saw them twice, bought most of their old singles >and they were decidly my fave band. Already possessing the two >singles, I put "La Pastie de la...." on and I was converted. - A small socialist revolution then? Isn´t this great! Belle And Sebastian are managing to convert a tory voter with their most political song:-) Sorry Northy, no offense! /// ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Fri Jan 16 09:39:15 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:39:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Lip Trumpet/Scott W Message-ID: I like Scott Walker. I think "next" is the only song which says gonnorea (sp?) eh? gonnoreha (sp?) you know what I mean. I got a marc almond record for a pound out of lost in music. It's all Jaques Brel tunes and it's all right. He does "next" as well but he doesn't say ghonarea (sp?) he says syphilis. He probably couldn't spell gonnerea (sp?) when he tried to write down the words. He does "if you go away" too, and i prefer his version to Scott's by the way. And he does "my death" which is a super song. And I think Neil Hannon is a splendid little chap. eh, what's this >>>See if your singing "Judy.." to yourself do you apply lip trumpet? Or >>>is this just me? >Sneaky Laird wrote: >>Is that some kind of medication? why i oughta....! Come on you know what lip trumpet is. Loosen your lips and blow and cause vibrations that mimic the sound of a trumpet. Do it now! Accompany yourself with nose guitar! >>What the fuck's a mini mullet? my boy, if you were to grow your hair long, but keep a short fringe you too would be sporting a mullet. Like Michael Bolton used to have. And rocky out of Boon. And Jon Bon Jovi in his "slippery when wet" days. And most bikers. Do you see? A mini mullet is one that's not yet fully developed. Snaglepuss wrote > If you knew what "snatch" meant in slang you wouldn't believe me. It means "fanny" doesn't it? Another good word ruined. I know what "felching" is too. And "mayonasing". admiral L > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Fri Jan 16 09:58:52 1998 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 09:58:52 -0000 Subject: Mullet (was: Sinister: Lip Trumpet/Scott W) Message-ID: <01BD2265.5A5800C0@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> >>What the fuck's a mini mullet? >my boy, if you were to grow your hair long, but keep a short fringe you too would be sporting a mullet. Like Michael Bolton used to have. And rocky out of Boon. And Jon Bon Jovi in his "slippery when wet" days. And most bikers. Do you see? A mini mullet is one that's not yet fully developed. Mmm...... I always thought a mullet was just the opposite - long at the front and on top, but short at the back - the kind of thing that was popular with the new romantics. There was a lot of talk of mullets in the music press a year or two back, when that awful band Tiger were getting press, as apparently they sported mullets. They certainly didn't have the Michael Bolton look. I'm confused >Snaglepuss wrote > If you knew what "snatch" meant in slang you wouldn't believe me. >It means "fanny" doesn't it? Another good word ruined. I know what "felching" is too. And "mayonasing". Ah, but do you know what "pugwash" is? Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iles at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 10:05:49 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 10:05:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pastels in Leeds... were you there? Message-ID: >Oh, and can anybody help me out? Suggestions for things to ask Steven >Pastel tonite, when I've to interview him for the paper, would be >much appreciated, so's I don't just blurt out crap like "Gee whizz, >you know Steve malkmus, wow". Hey, I was there last night. You weren't the one wearing the Belle and Sebastian T-shirt and a big coat that looked like it was made of dalmations were you? Or could it be someone else on the list... Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Fri Jan 16 10:09:53 1998 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 16 Jan 98 10:09:53 Subject: Sinister: Guardian article - (warning: LONG!) Message-ID: <9801161018.AA1267@notesgw.compuserve.com> I don't know if this is a good idea and I haven't even read it all but perhaps some of you might like to see this article from today's Guardian on the scene in Glasgow, "Britain's undisputable second musical city" (I presume he means London is the first - why?). More mentions of the wispy, delicate and 'unbelievably shy' Belle and Sebastian than you could shake a small bus at, but no photo (ha!). Nick S. Dastoor nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com SCOTTISH BANDS - WEST END PEARLS. By Tom Cox. Exit Central Station, ride the tube four stops anti-clockwise from Buchanan Street, get off at Hillhead, and you're there: at the hub of Scotland's leading cultural outpost, the midstream of a humble but broad-minded metropolis with a fast-accelerating civic pride. After a regional survey, last week's Big Issue magazine voted Glasgow Britain's coolest city, decreeing it was spontaneous, classless, young and vibrant, with a youth population who wouldn't want to live anywhere else in the world. Owing largely to Trainspotting and the 1996 Turner Prize, it's been propitious to be Scottish for some time now. Being Glaswegian, the survey proves, is better still. Canvassing Glasgow's thriving musical community, I arrive at even more conclusive results. When interrogated, nine out of 10 Glasgow musicians stay inexorably loyal to their home city - and opine that Glaswegian pop music is currently at its bonniest ever. This is more than just hackneyed home-town pride. Look at the evidence. Recently, Glasgow has stepped forward as Britain's undisputable second musical city, leaving competitors Manchester and Liverpool in a cloud of sub-Oasis dust. Avant-garde overlord John Peel claims to have aired more records from Glasgow in the last 12 months than at any other time during his four-decade career. Moody sods Arab Strap soundtrack the Guinness advert. The unbelievably shy and delicate Belle And Sebastian get closer to a Top Of The Pops outing with each single. Even Spice Girl Mel C has been seen out watching the really quite ramshackle Urusei Yatsura. After a few years being buffeted around half-invented weekly music press scenes, Glasgow is set to transcend previous tags - lo-fi retro - though sheer eclecticism. In the first half of 1998, expect new albums from Belle And Sebastian, Superstar, Urusei Yatsura, The Delgados, Adventures In Stereo, Arab Strap, The Pastels, The Leopards, Future Pilot AKA, 18 Wheeler and Mogwai. This is a frequently terrific bunch, who - due to the once-unimaginable success of Belle And Sebastian and Teenage Fanclub, and the groundwork of deviants like Orange Juice and The Pastels - can now feel nowhere near as marginalised as they used to. Back in the eighties, Glasgow rock meant Simple Minds and Wet Wet Wet: slick, bloated, arena-ready ego-massaging which said little about its place of origin, let alone the lives of its fans. Anything else was strictly peripheral. `We felt quite disenfranchised by the grandiose sound in the eighties,' remembers Stephen McRobbie from The Pastels, who along with the Jesus And Mary Chain, Primal Scream and The Vaselines, formed an original kicking-against-the-pricks guild in reaction to corporate misery. `We'd all had similar experiences - there was nowhere good to play in Glasgow and a lack of communication.' The difference now, with the stadium pomposity gone, is that the self-sufficient Glasgow band is a realistic commercial prospect - still able to operate on its own terms, but no longer creatively isolated, despite being 500 miles away from music biz central. A proliferation of record labels, clubs and bands ensures constant moral support, without a niggling media spotlight. The effect is such that a band like Belle And Sebastian can earn universal praise and top 40 success with minimal nationwide gigs and still fewer interviews. Their decision is simple: `When it comes to chosing between a gig in London and playing in front of all our friends, we'll go for the friends every time,' explains Sarah Martin, the group's violinist. Martin, a Mancunian who relocated to Glasgow in the early nineties, finds the underworld fellowship of the city both spooky and alluring. `It seems really incestuous in a way - once you're in a band, you end up drinking with all the other bands. Everyone's sensible here, though. No matter how successful people are, you still see them going down to The 13th Note to check out the latest group.' Delgados vocalist Emma Pollock agrees: `Because of what we do, we can just go out and have a party. Nobody's organised it, but you can't turn around without seeing someone you know. Plus, there's no pressure to compliment someone's band just because you're friends with them.' The 13th Note is the premier night-time rendezvous for Glaswegian subculture, a venue with a free plug-in policy, ensuring that fledgling local outfits can always get a gig mere days after first picking up a Rickenbacker. Step from Hillhead tube station into the West End and you're greeted by the other meeting places: the daytime ones. Immediately t o your right is Jon Smith's, the book and record shop where Stephen from The Pastels will sell you the esoterica of your choice. Across the road is a succession of cosmopolitan nosheries. Around the corner, you'll find bohemian backstreet cafes likely to be thronged with at least a million members of Belle and Sebastian, Mogwai or The Delgados at any one time. Glasgow may still be a mean city, and parts of it may look like eastern Europe with better shops, but this is different - safe, cultured and lively. Eight years ago Glasgow was designated European City Of Culture by the European Community. It's difficult to gauge the benefit this had on underground music, but there's a definite residual optimism. Most of 1998's rock population are industrial suburbanites who've been magnetised to the centre by its increasingly ebullient nature. The Pastels' Stephen McRobbie was one of the first. `The West End can be quite deceptive,' he points out. `Most of us actually grew up close to poverty-stricken areas. Our parents were only quite poor but our grandparents were really, really poor.' `Traditionally Edinburgh's slummy, ill-educated in-law, Glasgow is turning the tables, attracting a different kind of person,' reckons Gerry Love, who, like the rest of Teenage Fanclub, hails from the Lanarkshire no-man's land a dozen miles outside the city. `When I was growing up, the whole west of Scotland was like a wasteland and Glasgow was a demolition zone - like That Sinking Feeling, the Bill Forsyth movie. It's become more sophisticated since I moved here.' The archetypal minor Glaswegian rock star is often ascribed an innocuous persona in the music press - sleepy Stephen Pastel, cuddly Joe Superstar, cheeky Gerry Fanclub. Apart from being somewhat patronising, this undermines an inherent grittiness in their backgrounds. Would a bunch of grinning nice-but-dims have a discography as soaringly memorable as Teenage Fanclub's? I think not. There's a personable nature here, but there's also a severe, single-minded one. Love tells me: `There's something bolshy and defiant about Glasgow bands. It's in our genes.' McRobbie defines it as a `swagger bereft of an over-egged rock-star arrogance' - something, as someone who's overseen Scottish independent music since the early eighties, he's recognised in all great Glasgow rock, from The Jesus And Mary Chain to Belle And Sebastian. What other factors are characteristic of the Glasgow band? Patience, for starters. Of the truly special Glaswegian works awaiting release in 1998, the majority come from songwriters who've quietly honed their pop chops over a number of years. Belle And Sebastian's introverted Stuart Murdoch was a familiar nomadic presence around Glasgow for years, DJ-ing in local clubs and distributing his home-recorded tapes of wispy, underdeveloped compositions inspired by the city's bus routes. Adventures In Stereo's fuzzy, Dusty Springfield-echoing mini-symphonies are textured by ex-Primal Scream axeman Jim Beattie. The emotionally intense, soulful Superstar are the brainchild of long-time Teenage Fanclub acolyte Joe MacAlinden, who, in an inferior incarnation, released an album through Creation Records in 1992. `I think what's emerged is a dedication to the art of making music, the same approach of film directors who maintain a high standard for 40 years,' as McRobbie sums it all up. Without a `Conquer the world, quick!' manifesto, the typical Glasgow band reverses every rock'n'roll cliche in existence. `Live fast, die young' becomes `Nae hurry, drink lots of tea'. `You've got a lifetime to write your first album and a year to write your second' becomes `We still need time to develop as a band'. `We're genius, us, our kid' becomes `Give us 10 years and we might be quite good'. With this `Who, us?' demeanour disguising a quiet determination, the Glasgow attitude nestles light-years from its mouthy counterpart south of the border. `There was a nationalism in Britpop that you wouldn't get here. Because we live in a smaller country, we tend to think more internationally,' McRobbie points out. Perhaps this is why the west coast of Scotland in 1998 bears comparison to the west coast of America in 1968. From the city's San Francisco district - a cross-hatched hillside street plan similar to the one which dominates Frisco's centre - to the unprompted Glaswegian support of mavericks like Kurt Cobain, Brian Wilson and Big Star's Alex Chilton, from Belle And Sebastian's beautified appreciation of Simon And Garfunkel to Superstar's interpretation of Stax soul, Glasgow's symbiotic relationship with the US never ends. `I think it's the port mentality, like Liverpool in the sixties - the next stop is America,' laughs Love. While it might not quite have reached Merseysound hysteria yet, something in Glasgow has changed, a shift from wilful amateurism to an ever-strengthening, communally stoked self-belief. The defiant spirit is still there, but now it's got new ambition and an accessible melody. Amazingly, it's honest and vibrant. What's more, the music business is just a little too far away to spoil the party. By its very determination to be unhip, Glasgow is becoming the hippest musical city of all. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Katrina at xxx.net> Fri Jan 16 11:10:02 1998 From: Katrina at xxx.net> (Katrina at xxx.net>) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:10:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re:Sessions DownLow References: <19980115224356.25423.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <34BF400A.4941@virgin.net> mayfly the fly wrote: > > I spoke with someone at the soon to be announced US label and the band > will be on the show soon, probably later this month. There was a bit of > a tie up because the show was recorded such a long time ago and is just > airing now, but it's worked out, and it doesn't seem like a big deal. Hello all, We've just had confirmation from Jeb Brien @ Sessions at west 54th, and the B&S show is definitely not going to be aired, ever. Oh well ... i don't really think it's worth sending any letters to Jeb, as the decision seems to be final, it's not a case of them not wanting to show the footage, but more like it wasn't up to standard. Sorry to bring the band news .... Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 11:21:11 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:21:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pat Sharpe Message-ID: <01bd2270$d98fe690$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Mmm...... I always thought a mullet was just the opposite - long at the front >and on top, but short at the back - the kind of thing that was popular with the >new romantics. There was a lot of talk of mullets in the music press a year >or two back, when that awful band Tiger were getting press, as apparently >they sported mullets. They certainly didn't have the Michael Bolton look. > >I'm confused Nah, a mullet's definitely the long at back short at sides and on top look sported by cheesy 80's people (was going to say scousers, but removed for fear of offence). As sported by such luminaries as Limahl (an anagram of "Hamill", which is his surname Look In fans) and Paul McCartney, even now! It's officially the worst haircut in the history of hairdressing. I had this horrible thought there imagining David "The Dame", "The Thin White Duke" Bowie sporting one just after his taste glands got removed in 1983, but luckily, he didn't - I imagine that was more of a fluke than by design. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pym0491b at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 12:25:55 1998 From: pym0491b at xxx.uk (Seymour Stein) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:25:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pastels this sat... Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980116122555.006911a4@194.238.147.3> Considering how many pastels fans there are her...probably loads, are any listees planning to go to the Garage this Saturday? The exceptional Novak are playing, along with DJ kid Loco from Paree, so it promises to be magnificent. Also, who could forget Future Pilot AKA from Sunday night's Manchester show? Well they'll be there in all their rather silly avant garde glory, and I may heckle them if drunk enough. I'll be in a B+S tee shirt looking very contented and happy to share a deeply watered-down Carlsberg with any other list folk. xx will x will look out...CALYPSO CUPS...in your area February 1998 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Fri Jan 16 12:32:55 1998 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:32:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: Pastels in Leeds... were you there? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <48D161E43BA@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Mark wrote > Hey, I was there last night. You weren't the one wearing the Belle and > Sebastian T-shirt and a big coat that looked like it was made of dalmations > were you? Or could it be someone else on the list... Hell, no, that wisnae me, but that coat was something else, no? He must have been about forty, and all his eyeshadow was running. I was the little guy sat on the steps with the pullover and Nike runners, taking pictures at the end. They were fantastic, weren't they? Can't believe they played 'Truck Train Tractor'. I almost cried when they covered 'Starry Eyed'. Not that anyone's interested, but Steven (sic) was v. amiable, enthused about B&S like every other hipster I ever meet, and discussed the relative merits of, and similarities between, our beloved Stuart M, and Calvin from Dub Narcotic. Sounds scintillating, eh? Anyway, West Yorks. listees, where do you all drink? We haunt the Hyde Park Social, and Joseph's Well. Any ideas for pop-quiz-style outings or evening sojourns for us stuck up here, hundred's of miles from the Good Mixer? Later, Diamond Joe Quinby ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iles at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 12:45:24 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:45:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pastels in Leeds... were you there? Message-ID: >Mark wrote > >> Hey, I was there last night. You weren't the one wearing >the Belle and >> Sebastian T-shirt and a big coat that looked like it was made of dalmations >> were you? Or could it be someone else on the list... > >Hell, no, that wisnae me, but that coat was something else, no? He >must have been about forty, and all his eyeshadow was running. I was >the little guy sat on the steps with the pullover and Nike runners, >taking pictures at the end. I'm afraid I didn't see you, then. He didn't look all that old to me in the dim light in the place, but I noticed he was carrying a tiny rucksack over his arm like a handbag and danced like a maniac to Formula One. Anyone want to own up... >They were fantastic, weren't they? Can't believe they played 'Truck >Train Tractor'. I almost cried when they covered 'Starry Eyed'. They _were_ top. I'd never heard Truck Train Tractor before, but thought it was great. Why did so many people leave after the support bands, though... had they dragged all their mates along or something? >Anyway, West Yorks. listees, where do you all drink? We haunt the >Hyde Park Social, and Joseph's Well. Any ideas for pop-quiz-style >outings or evening sojourns for us stuck up here, hundred's of miles >from the Good Mixer? I don't know of anywhere round here that organises a pop quiz. Shame... I'd be up for it. What happened to the NME pop quiz that travelled round the universities a couple of years ago - did they not bother again? I mainly drink near where I live - The Fenton - also now and again The Dry Dock, the Old Bar (in the union) and the Firkin (because it's better than the Old Bar). Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aroels at xxx.fr Fri Jan 16 13:57:00 1998 From: aroels at xxx.fr (Anne) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 13:57 GMT+0100 Subject: Sinister: Creme Anglaise Message-ID: >Hi! >> I lost the "Sinister mail" from the Guy/Girl (can't remember ) who runs Creme Anglaise.>> How can i get a copy ? >> Please..... send  me a mail. >> Her name is Anne and her address is aroels at epf.fr ... but she must have already read your message on the list. And by the way there is a B&S >interview in this issue of Creme Anglaise! (and we all were in Manchester, you must >have met us / her) >Stéphane >Anne, je te fais de la pub! Ca vaut bien une bière au Popin, non? See you!!! Hi everybody, Yes this is me, Anne from France (plus some of my friends) doing this fanzine. So... what could I say about it...? It's called CREME ANGLAISE, it's issue 4, and features: exceptional guests, BELLE & SEBASTIAN ! (interview in Oxford) Also in this issue, lots of other interviews: STEREOLAB, THE TINDERSTICKS, JJ JOHANSON, EELS, PLACEBO, CORNERSHOP, FUCK, THE DELGADOS, THE PASTELS, and DIE STERNE... plus more reviews, news, singles, albums, gigs: Mouse On Mars, Broadcast, OP8, St Malo festival 97, Bjork secret gig in Paris, Magoo, and all the usual stuff, ideas, fun! Elle est pas belle la vie?! You can get a copy from Tower Records Picadilly Circus (London) Rough Trade and Selectadisc (unles they ran out of copies, I must check) or order it from... °°°° France °°°° Creme Anglaise, 13 rue Rougemont, F-75009 Paris (aroel at epf.fr) °°°° UK °°°° Creme Anglaise, 36A Halliford Str. London N13EL (cheques payable to A. Roels) °°°° Germany °°°° Creme Anglaise, c/o Petra Wersch,Breyeller Str.22 D-41334 Nettetal RSBWE at t-online.de) And this costs FF20 / 2 pounds / DM6 (80 A5 pages in English) For outside Europe, fet in touch with Matt... Creme Anglaise, c/o Matt Neimark, 341 Summer St. Sommerville MA 02144, USA (mattn at neurometrix.com) OK, that's it for now! Au revoir, mes amis! Anne. PS: merci pour la pub Stephane! Oui, ca faut peut-etre une pub au POPin... on verra, on verra... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 13:21:15 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:21:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pastels in Leeds... were you there? Message-ID: <01bd2281$9f88a520$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >They _were_ top. I'd never heard Truck Train Tractor before, but thought it >was great. Why did so many people leave after the support bands, though... >had they dragged all their mates along or something? ;-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Fri Jan 16 13:24:45 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:24:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: Pastels this sat... Message-ID: <8025658E.004BB365.00@bull.co.uk> Sinister: Pastels this sat... Seymour Stein (pym0491b at westminster.org.uk) Fri, 16 Jan 1998 12:25:55 +0000 >Considering how many pastels fans there are her...probably >loads, are any listees planning to go to the Garage this >Saturday? >xx will as it happens, will (and anyone else who's popping along), i've made plans to meet up with friends at the wig and something just up the road from the garage (other side of the street, further away from the tube station) before the gig so if you're in there from about 7 onwards i'll be the one looking like this: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/people/koogy.gif (i'm the one on the right!). so say hello and i'll probably mumble something in return... um, just trying to think what to wear so you'll recognise me... nope, no idea, sorry. um, my friends are going to go to the gig upstairs and i was thinking of going to the pastels but leaving before they played (sacrilege, i know, but they were kinda bad in new york last time, victims of the p.a. i think, and i live way out of london so...) but this doesn't matter... hey hey, someone bought up the kitchen the other day, i've been meaning to ask anybody if they'd seen it - just read the book over summer and was kinda struck by it all. all kinda alien to me being not japanese and not female and all but, well, just plain nice. and the comemrcial as well, someone mentioned, the levis white tab jeans commercial with the herse. cool. so cool that i went and tried a pair on (trousers were so much better in the 60s, i see cliff richards on that bus and...). button fly though. 8( oh, and they mentioned it was the lilys providing the music. well, my american, er, friend who's good at these things told me she thought it was the apples in stereo so... today's guardian article is well informed and reads well. thanks for posting that noname at noemail (nick!), saved me doing it. 8) andy ok, time to come clean, the picture is about 7 years old now... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Fri Jan 16 13:53:06 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:53:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pat Sharpe Message-ID: > > >>Mmm...... I always thought a mullet was just the opposite - long at the >front >>and on top, but short at the back - the kind of thing that was popular with >the >>new romantics. There was a lot of talk of mullets in the music press a >year >>or two back, when that awful band Tiger were getting press, as apparently >>they sported mullets. They certainly didn't have the Michael Bolton look. >> >>I'm confused I'm lonely. Is it possible there are regional variations on the mullet style. Sounds like the reverse mullet to me. It's a brilliant word that, mullet. Mullet. Mullet. As for the music press I can't really >comment because I don't like music and I can't read. >It's officially the worst haircut in the history of hairdressing. > I had this horrible thought there imagining David "The Dame", "The Thin >White Duke" Bowie sporting one just after his taste glands got removed in >1983, but luckily, he didn't - I imagine that was more of a fluke than by >design. > Well, it could be argued that the Ziggy/Aladdin Sane hairstyles were >mini mullets, with extra spike. Enough of this. If you are reading this carefully ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Fri Jan 16 13:57:52 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:57:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pat Sharpe Message-ID: Dammit. That last one wasn't ready to get send, my finger slipped. Ignore it ok. >---------- >From: Chris Leonard >Sent: 16 January 1998 13:53 >To: 'Sinister'; 'Keith Watson' >Subject: RE: Sinister: Pat Sharpe > > > > >>Mmm...... I always thought a mullet was just the opposite - long at the >front >>and on top, but short at the back - the kind of thing that was popular with >the >>new romantics. There was a lot of talk of mullets in the music press a >year >>or two back, when that awful band Tiger were getting press, as apparently >>they sported mullets. They certainly didn't have the Michael Bolton look. >> >>I'm confused > >I'm lonely. Is it possible there are regional variations on the mullet >style. Sounds like the reverse mullet to me. It's a brilliant word that, >mullet. Mullet. Mullet. As for the music press I can't really comment >because I don't like music and I can't read. >It's officially the worst haircut in the history of hairdressing. > > I had this horrible thought there imagining David "The Dame", "The Thin >White Duke" Bowie sporting one just after his taste glands got removed in >1983, but luckily, he didn't - I imagine that was more of a fluke than by >design. > >Well, it could be argued that the Ziggy/Aladdin Sane hairstyles were mini >mullets, with extra spike. Enough of this. > >If you are reading this carefully > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From grthom at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 13:58:38 1998 From: grthom at xxx.uk (G R Thomas) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:58:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Hello again, my friends Message-ID: Eh oop everyone, Just a little message to re-attach myself to the list. Hope everyone had a good holiday/vacation and New Year was cool for everyone. How were the gigs, those that went?? Good, I hope. Well, not much of great importance to add, execpt a little request: Can anyone confirm any release dates for the 'Modern Rock Song' EP, and the LP yet?. Maybe not, but it's worth a try, I suppose. So that's about it, hope everyone is well, and I'll speak to you sonn, Lots of love, GIDEONxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 14:09:19 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:09:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Just testing my new signature ! Message-ID: <01BD2288.57348BC0@pc7628> What is it like to have a Belle and Sebastian dream ? Yours insomniacally (???) -- Adrian Evans Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nigelt at xxx.net Fri Jan 16 14:13:02 1998 From: nigelt at xxx.net (Nigel Turner) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:13:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re: Pastels this sat... Message-ID: <01BD2288.DC0EDC60@tesco.unipalm.pipex.com> Andy Dean wrote: >as it happens, will (and anyone else who's popping along), i've made plans to meet up with friends at the wig and something just up the road from the garage (other side of the street, further away from the tube station) before the gig so if you're in there from about 7 onwards . >um, my friends are going to go to the gig upstairs and i was thinking of going to the pastels but leaving before they played They'll be going to the John Sims gig, then? Blimey, never thought they'd get mentioned on here (oh, they didn't did they.... until now). Everybody miss the Pastels and go see John Sims and Airport Girl upstairs instead, coz they're NOW and HAPPENING and stuff. Actually, Airport Girl have been known to cover 'Judy & ...', not to mention a Go Betweens song, and are better than The Pastels, as are John Sims, who sound like a hybrid Stereolab/Silver Apples/Portishead/Arab Strap, (maybe I lied about Arab Strap, but Everett True said so in a review once, so it must be true). Wig and Wotsit at 7 then. Nigel xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Fri Jan 16 14:51:00 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:51:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Levis ad (no B&S content) Message-ID: <199801161445.OAA10651@pop3.hiway.co.uk> Mr Dean wrote: >and the comemrcial as well, someone mentioned, the levis >white tab jeans commercial with the herse. cool. so cool >that i went and tried a pair on (trousers were so much >better in the 60s, i see cliff richards on that bus and...). >button fly though. 8( oh, and they mentioned it was the >lilys providing the music. well, my american, er, friend >who's good at these things told me she thought it was the >apples in stereo so... I really like this song too, but it's definitely by The Lilys. Still don't know the title though. I guess it's 'Nanny in Manhattan', but I'm probably wrong. Anybody know if the singles out yet? John. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 14:48:13 1998 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:48:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: putting it where you shouldn't Message-ID: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Fri Jan 16 14:57:54 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:57:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Belle And Sebastian Screen Saver Message-ID: I can't keep it in any longer. If you have Windows 95 or NT Workstation you can also have the totally unofficial Belle And Sebastian screen saver. You are excited, I can tell. Here's what to do. Get to http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/ Read all that is written. If that error comes up click "Ignore". Any problems e-mail me privately at home, don't mail the list. Better instructions are welcome, as are suggestions for future versions. I don't know what pugwash means. But i can imagine. And I am in Glasgow, so I am cool yes? Hmm, Apparently not. Toodleoo captain crack ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Fri Jan 16 14:58:17 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:58:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The Belle And Sebastian Screen Saver In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Chris Leonard wrote: > I can't keep it in any longer. If you have Windows 95 or NT > Workstation you can also have the totally unofficial Belle And Sebastian > screen saver. You are excited, I can tell. > > Here's what to do. Get to http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/ Ohhh sorry Chris was just adding it to my page. It's now indexed from the page below for added clickability. Rush rush. It's very silly. Come and get it everyone. Tell me if it's slow coming - it's actually on my server. Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 15:08:25 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:08:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Happy Days Message-ID: <01BD2290.98E93FE0@pc7628> Keith Wrote : >Nah, a mullet's definitely the long at back short at sides and on top look >sported by cheesy 80's people (was going to say scousers, but removed for >fear of offence). As sported by such luminaries as Limahl (an anagram of >"Hamill", which is his surname Look In fans) and Paul McCartney, even now! >It's officially the worst haircut in the history of hairdressing. Have to agree....I used to have one....and I used to walk round with fish on my head..That's the country air for you ! I would have said though, that a mullet came about through a lack of visiting your barber, and thus should be officially a non-haircut. Look-in.....well bless my differentials....there's a blast from the past. Keith you are clearly far too old !! -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 14:54:21 1998 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 14:54:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mullets Message-ID: <739F7F491A@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> heh folks.... Has anyone else noted the emergence of the trendy mullet... Its not as bad as the original but it definately has its root in the mulett styleee... Its like a mullet only kind of indie-fied at the front (sort of floppy) and al a bit more scruffy and greasy lookin' at the back... I know this sounds like just someone with long hair but its honestly not... Its not really lond at the sides.... Anyone else noted this or other mulletations.....? luv you all neil H ------------------------------------------------- " if you're chasing the morning, if you're sleeping all day..." ------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Jan 16 15:42:06 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:42:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: Mayonnaising In-Reply-To: <199801161357.NAA15988@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801161357.NAA15988@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34c27490.14917723@email.mcmail.com> Hello PLaird wrote >Funny that, but nearly every time I watch MTV there's usually just a pile >of shit on (either that or 'Lucky Man' by The Verve). A pile of shit OR 'Lucky Man'? Chris Leonard wrote: >they were the only two people in the building that didn't have mullets. >Scary thought. I had a mini mullet One of my friend's saw a mullet and said 'ooooh, look - he's got a mutton.' Oh how we laughed. >And I think Neil Hannon is a splendid little chap. He's a little shit. Klas Ericsson wrote >How I made my Penis (working for Notcutts???) Does anyone else find this disturbing? >- - A small socialist revolution then? Isn=B4t this great! Belle And Sebastian >are managing to convert a tory voter with their most political song:-) >Sorry Northy, no offense! Just bloody lay off him, right, or you'll have me to answer to. >Tom Cox... Do you think he does? >wrote in the Guardian >Sarah Martin, a Mancunian I wish I'd known that 8 years ago. Keith 'Laydeez Man' Watson wrote >Nah, a mullet's definitely the long at back short at sides and on top look >sported by cheesy 80's people (was going to say scousers, but removed for >fear of offence). Jockey Slut Mitchell is a posh scouser. That's why he's always telling us to 'calm down'. God I'm funny. Love Tag x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 15:59:38 1998 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (SL Collins) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:59:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: No interesting B&S content In-Reply-To: Message-ID: As i read these mails I realised that I associate different accents with the regular writers. Some of them also have clothes and hair cuts, and even ear rings. So, no offence meant, these are some of my suppositions: Northy. Well, manchester accent, kind of northern uproar. Big Hair. Tag. Essex, ex - punk. Lots of books on shelves made of wood and bricks. Duke of Haringay. Don't know where Haringay but i imagine it was a hot spot during the punk rock wars. Socialist and Anarchist badges, glasses and a no.2 haircut. Genevieve - Speaks with the tongue of a French Canadian Angel..... David - someone told me you were an Aberdonian , so that would be a thich Doric accent, and ( have i remembered rightly, a purple Velour hat ?) Katrina - no nonsense glaswegian lilt. Fine pair of flares Belle and Sebastian : if Picasso had played Guitar or Michaelangelo had been a Glaswegian. Really - no offence meant Simon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 16:02:38 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 16:02:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Belle And Sebastian Screen Saver Message-ID: <199801161537.PAA27156@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Yay!!! I have my Screen Saver. Brill! Well Done Chris you are a very clever chap indeed. HoneyPaul - for your records - it took about half an hour to download - thank God work were paying. I hope the Edinburgh servers haven't crumpled under the demand. xx john >---------- >From: Chris Leonard[SMTP:cleonard at xxx.COM] >Sent: 16 Jan 1998 14:57 >To: 'Sinister' >Subject: Sinister: The Belle And Sebastian Screen Saver > >I can't keep it in any longer. If you have Windows 95 or NT >Workstation you can also have the totally unofficial Belle And Sebastian >screen saver. You are excited, I can tell. > >Here's what to do. Get to http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~calnd/ > >Read all that is written. If that error comes up click "Ignore". Any >problems e-mail me privately at home, don't mail the list. Better >instructions are welcome, as are suggestions for future versions. > >I don't know what pugwash means. But i can imagine. And I am in >Glasgow, so I am cool yes? Hmm, Apparently not. > >Toodleoo >captain crack > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From schrasj at xxx.com Fri Jan 16 16:53:51 1998 From: schrasj at xxx.com (Graham LeBron) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 08:53:51 PST Subject: Sinister: Matador Message-ID: <19980116165351.28067.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all, I think that B&S signing to matador in the US is great. It's a good label for what they're trying to accomplish. Plus, us Americans will now know when their videos will be on MTV. if you get the email updates from matador or check their site regularly, they'll tell you when videos by their artists will be on 120 minutes. I mean when as in the 10th video or second to last, etc, so all you have to do is turn the telly on a few minutes before and keep your hand on the pause button. And they'll be able to book good shows for them in the states and and and... I just think that matador will do them right. Now lots of people will be able to hear them and buy their records but it's not like they're going mainstream. I'm happy. love, gram ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jfrankel at xxx.net Fri Jan 16 18:24:08 1998 From: jfrankel at xxx.net (Jarrett Frankel) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 13:24:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Them Featuring Stuart Murdoch Message-ID: I didn't really mean for my first post to the list to be quite so strange, but I thought I'd share. Yesterday I picked up the just issued Them compilation, "The Story of Them Featuring Van Morrison." Quite a two disc set, highly recommended! Anyway, the reason I mention it is because, while looking at the liner notes and their accompanying photos, I couldn't help but notice the uncanny resemblance(in my mind at least) between a *young* Van Morrison and Stuart Murdoch. PErhaps I'm WAAAAY of here, as I've only ever seen Stuart M in person once(at the Sessions taping in NYC), but take a little of Van's pudge away and I think you have a pretty decent match! Hmm, yes, way off, I know. I'd also like to take this opportunity to state that "Pocketbook Angel"(or whatever it is really called, it's untitled on my cassette) is a thoroughly perfect pop song and should be on the new album and also be it's first single. "I seen her write it all down...." One last thing(and forgive me if it's been covered here ad nauseam): In "I Don't Love Anyone", what is the lyirc that begins, "If there's one thing that I learned when I was still a child it's to ________."?? And it's not the part that finishes with "be alone." Normally lyrical mysteries don't irk me so much, but I simply love this song too much not to know exactly what is being said. Any ideas are much appreciated! Nice meeting you all! rendered, rainforested & rolexed: jarrett frankel jfrankel at intr.net p.s. God bless Matador Records. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 18:01:46 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:01:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: my days comments...ooh i feel all like the queen.....heehee. Message-ID: fascism? i'll tell youwho are fascists. librarians who charge you for education. bastards as for how many digest we're getting, a digest a day keeps the doctor away. well, it does for me. well, actually i did have to go becasue of my thumb but that was an injury not illness. ooh i forget john had to go cos of his foot. so i'm talking rubbish, ...jolly good then :-) heey! i'm halfway through digest 25 now and you're talking about insults! my friend and i had an hour long insult war today! am the *queen* of insults. All you other people are just so shallow, that if you started feeling sinister then i bet you'd start seeing other people and drown in your Sorrow 16! ha! we were insulting each other with song names. my lord, i should be shot. geez. hey, and i'm going to interview the Pastels too! oh lucky them is what i say. i will ask them um, um, uuum, ............oh heck. what can i ask? ooh i'll do what i usually do and let the feeling of the moments ruun :-) So, I have one friend listeeeey coing along to Preston to see los Pasteles, email me Martin for cgrissakes as i have lost your email address and your phone is engaged all the time you you phone man you. i forget to ask you on IRC. DOH! So if anyone else fancies coming along :-) please feel free to come to the glam Preston Adelphi on the 22nd. hmm. have i much else to say? nope pas vraiment. heehee, je peut parler un peu de francais aussi. at the moment our lovely topic is smoking, anti-fags propogand disguised as education. la tabagisme. qui donne un merde? pas moi. JE SORS MAINTENANT AU REVOIR! Sarah "It's not unusual to be loooved by anyone.." --Tom Jones, the MAN! blowing his sexual bugle in the orchestra of luuurve! and if you think i'm gona translate that you are very silly. actually: Ce ne pas unusual d'etre amouruse avec quelqu'n... oh lord. i reaally should be better at french. beleive or not i will be taking the alevel next year. but i dunno how to translate the blowing his sexual bugle bit. :-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 18:39:42 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:39:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tiramisu and other fetishes References: <199801150026.AAA14441@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> <34bdce9e.1727324@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: <34BFA96E.D6432947@totalweb.co.uk> Tag wrote: > >On a different note - Guy Chadwick once sang "I don't know > >why I love you, your face is like a foreign food". It's crap > >and it doesn't even rhyme. > > Hey - I'd forgotten that one. I must say if I ever ever met anyone > whose face (or any other body part) was tiramisu they could have my > hand in marriage. Or my hand in anywhere for that matter. which seems to be a weird insinuation of sensuality and food combined.which neatly lowers the conversation onto aphrodisiacs, has anyone read any Isabelle Allende? as she's due to release a book about the indistinguishable line between the eroticism of good food and sexuality, and i'd quite like to know what her past books are like and am too lazy to read. > Katrina wrote: > > >I'm sorry to pick on Northy.... > > You damn well should be, poor little guy cries himself to sleep every > night and it's all your fault. Especially so soon after ...y'know... > Portillo. leave him alone, it's worse than you think you know, i mean now he has to suffer Hague's leadership! david -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 18:34:01 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:34:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: nme review of manchester References: Message-ID: <34BFA819.6866CE28@totalweb.co.uk> rcoleman at husky.co.uk wrote: > I am amused at the frequent references in the nme article to 'twee' > 'mumsy-wumsy' and 'warm and happy-clappy cosy'......after all, here is > a 'writer' who submits his work to a rag that needs to translate > FUCKING into F-ING for him. with that in mind, presumably he was > dispatched to the matin‚e so as he could avoid those nasty dangerous > manchester streets after dark. > a fine observation as he was in fact seen, draped in a foul-mood and arms folded, on the sunday afternoon. > why is wells' writing so well regarded anyway? that article reads like > the work of some retard sounding-off in my local 'cauliflower-ear' > boozer. > > what a f-pig. > > -Rod he used to be a respected Socialist Workers Party member and enthusiast, he used to preach that the best way to prepare a society for revolution was to subvert the impressionable youth with the aid of music, which was a pretty bloody obvious statement eh? of course in the years of thatcherism this was rebelliousness at it's height, and as such the NME and it's sheep loved him for it. david "[steven wells] is still a shit though" -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 18:57:53 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:57:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: No interesting B&S content References: Message-ID: <34BFADB0.A4EA852F@totalweb.co.uk> SL Collins wrote: > As i read these mails I realised that I associate different accents with > the regular writers. Some of them also have clothes and hair cuts, and > even ear rings. > > So, no offence meant, these are some of my suppositions: > > David - someone told me you were an Aberdonian , so that would be a thich > Doric accent, and ( have i remembered rightly, a purple Velour hat ?) i'm not aberdonian but come from the small southern town of londinium, just down the M1.and the velour hat? well i'd only ever heard suede at one point in time and thought that maybe it was fashion, i went to glastonbury and learnt otherwise. > Katrina - no nonsense glaswegian lilt. Fine pair of flares katrina's an antipodean in relation to my birth place, she hails from the most removed city in the world - Perth, western oz. but you'd never tell from her smooth london tainted accent. > Really - no offence meant > > Simon. -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Fri Jan 16 19:03:26 1998 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 11:03:26 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: matador deal / shameless begging Message-ID: My first response to the recently announced Matador deal was to join Amanda B. in her "not-so-understated dance of joy" (hmm, reminds me of the Snoopy dance, yet another Peanuts reference for you!) But then I read an article from http://www.allstarmag.com and got a bit panicky when I came to the part that said "On the touring front, it's hard to make a full swing around the States with cellos, harps, and a string section in tow, but the band does plan to play approximately eight to 10 dates in major markets closer to the release of their spring album." Hmm, what exactly are the major markets in the US and is Seattle one of these even though it's a bit out of the way? Ok, if the band is indeed reading this list from their office, I'll ditch the pride right here and resort to begging and other sad tactics. ATTN STUART MURDOCH: After the NYC shows you mentioned how great it was to see your friend Steve who lives in Seattle. Well, local rumors have it that Steve is missing you terribly and would give up his cherished umbrella and single tall lattes if only you'd visit. You see, he still doesn't have a proper boyfriend and needs a second opinion on the scores of potential improper boyfriends that are milling about Capitol Hill. Keep in mind, Seattle is as lovely as a song in the Spring and worth the long journey across those fat square western states like North Dakota and Montana. Oh, and we've got poetry on our buses here. Just say the word and I'll start scoping out all the holy places in town and sending you ink polaroids so you can choose your favorite. - Nicole, still dreaming ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 19:08:52 1998 From: steve at xxx.uk (steve genge) Date: 16 Jan 1998 19:08:52 GMT Subject: Sinister: Levis ad (no B&S content) In-Reply-To: <199801161445.OAA10651@pop3.hiway.co.uk> Message-ID: <68DC7590.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> > Mr Dean wrote: > >and the comemrcial as well, someone mentioned, the levis > >white tab jeans commercial with the herse. cool. so cool > >that i went and tried a pair on (trousers were so much > >better in the 60s, i see cliff richards on that bus and...). > >button fly though. 8( oh, and they mentioned it was the > >lilys providing the music. well, my american, er, friend > >who's good at these things told me she thought it was the > >apples in stereo so... > > I really like this song too, but it's definitely by The Lilys. Still don't > know the title though. I guess it's 'Nanny in Manhattan', but I'm probably > wrong. Anybody know if the singles out yet? > It's released in Feb on Che through WEA & will hopefully be a big hit. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Fri Jan 16 19:09:45 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 98 19:09:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hamsters and Stuart Murdoch References: Message-ID: <980116190945.n0007525.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 15 Jan 98, Honey wrote... >If you're going to post, please: > Tag, Susannah, Keith, Peter Miller and Chris Leonard have >carte-blanche to post stuff about their hamsters because they make me >giggle. They have earned their spurs. Hamsters? I can do hamsters. Some years back we (bunch of indie schmindie students) had a golden hamster by the name of Howard. Unlike most hamsters, the little thing hardly ever moved, and because of this non-escapist attitude we used to take him down the pub, just for a treat like, and sit him next to the beers, where he would stay contentedly all night long, washing himself and occasionally licking the table. Now there was a regular there, a thin boy with a pretty face who used to come and stroke him, and whisper sweet nothings. Very jealous I was of Howard, but a regular pub-goer he became in the hope that pretty boy would pet me, not my hamster. Twas not to be though, as Howard eventually went to the great exercise wheel in the sky, and the pretty boy? he is now to be found, still nurturing his rodent fetish, on cum.com. Hamster no. 2 chose to have babies not long after her purchase, but they mysteriously disappeared shortly after their birth. However, on closer inspection, we spotted amongst the peanuts a little baby hamster head, the exact shape and colour of a little round nut. Hamster no.3 was the Houdini of the rodent world and despite the latest that hamster technology had to offer, no cage could hold him and he escaped, never to be seen again, but probably went on to live a long healthy life surviving on student detritus; baked beans down the back of the sofa, that sort of thing. So there we are. Can't bring myself to possess any more hamsters as I never could get over that eye-popping out business that occurs when you hold them too tightly and they try to run away, but somehow I keep getting this vision of the same happening to Stuart Murdoch if you had anything even near approaching a firm grip. susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 19:33:17 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:33:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: matador deal info release Message-ID: <34BFB5FD.B504CCCA@totalweb.co.uk> you may be wondering what we've been up to if we can't even give you the info first as we always promise to, well, we will! except in this case the matador deal, although in it's final phases of being done, can not yet be classed as a 'signing' or 'done deal' as the band's signatures havn't yet been scrawled across the bottom of the ever important contracts. so yes, matador look like they've clinched the us deal, but... ...we'll let you know exactly when this is confirmed beyond doubt, up until then the deal is near finishing, but not yet completed. an official release will follow at the time when it is confirmed by the band (having signed), and jeepster having confirmed the action of passing the contracts back. david & katrina on behalf of the fanclub and jeepster records (for the first time in ages). -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.walker15 at xxx.net Fri Jan 16 18:17:18 1998 From: david.walker15 at xxx.net (David Walker) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 18:17:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Guy Chadwick Nonsense.... References: <9800148848.AA884811803@ccgw4.lse.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34BFA42E.2191@virgin.net> Hello, Hmm....Guy Chadwick.... Recently spotted on this here list...... "On a different note - Guy Chadwick once sang "I don't know why I love you, your face is like a foreign food". It's crap and it doesn't even rhyme. Ben" How about..... "Put the V in Vietnam, The Beatles And The Stones, Made it good to be alone" (Beatles And The Stones) Or.... "Christine......still walking with me.......still talking with me....Christine, Christine" (Christine) Or "I`m walking down the street, In a crowd, Not alone" (Salome) I could go on. BUT: Still cannot deny that the aforementioned "Christine", along with "Shine On" and "Real Animal" (amongst others) are great songs ! Cheers, Tintin (currently playing first album !) Oh no....just heard the lyrics for "Love In A Car" !!!! -- David Walker The Walker Homepage And Guide To Bolton: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/ Got A Paul Weller link ? Need A Paul Weller link ? Check.... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/links.html (Unfinished version now up and running) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Fri Jan 16 21:07:20 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:07:20 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Sex! Yeah! No B&S content! well, a PBS reference... Message-ID: unless you have some sort of overtly sexual sex/B&S thing going on, which is entirely possible... in any case. More reasons to drop out of school! And more reasons to watch PBS, even though the B&S session seems to be a moot point now. The following article appeared in our uni's daily newspaper today, and I found it most amusing. So here it is for any of you who might be interested: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- More time in school means less time in bed, study finds (Television watchers, jazz enthusiasts, Jews and agnostics are the most sexually active, the University of Chiacgo study shows.) If you want to get the most sexual pleasure out of life, drop out of college[=university]. That's the suggestion from a new study of sex habits to be published next month in American Demographics magazine. The nationwide survery of 10,000 people found that the greater their educational attainment, the less sex they had. The people who have the most sex are those who have some college education but are not college graduates, the survey found. People who have graduate degrees are the least likely of all to frequently have sex. Michael Bailey, a Northwestern associate professor who teaches Human Sexuality, said he ws somewhat surprised at the survey results. Men with lucrative jobs, such as doctors, lawyers, and businessmen have the most sexual partners because women are attracted to men with high earning potential, Baily said. But men with Ph.D.s may not be so lucky. "The Ph.D. effect for men when they're in graduate school--it's not a high-status position," Bailey said. "And when they've graduated, they don't make as much money as people with lesser degrees" such as MBAs, making them less attractive. Lyle Davis, a Northwestern graduate student who is married to a Kellogg Graduate School of Management graduate, said business students do seem to have more active social lives than students in other graduate fields. "Most graduate students are single and not dating," said Davis, 25. "They're involved in their studies pretty intensely, so they wouldn't be so active." Dropping out of school, however, is not the only way to increase your sexual activity. The survey found that people who work long hours and watch a lot of television are more sexually active than average. The best channel to watch: PBS. "Who would have thought that National Geographic specials or Ken Burns' history of baseball could get people in the mood?" the survey said. Jazz enthusiasts are 30 percent more sexually active than the average person, the survey found. Liking other types of music, such as rock, seems to be unrelated to sexual activity. While Catholics are slightly more active than Protestants, both Christian groups are 20 percent less active than Jews or agnostics. People who identify themselves as liberals have a higher sexual frequency than moderates or conservatives. "Extreme liberals" are most sexually active. However, sexual activity is also above average for "extreme conservatives." Apparently, people who are passionate about politics are passionate about other things, too. The survey was conducted by social scientists at the University of Chicago. As for their own sexual activity? Dumb question. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "How do I offend you, when I only mean to put beauty in my mind and not my mind in the beauty?" --Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From krivas at xxx.gov Fri Jan 16 21:32:44 1998 From: krivas at xxx.gov (Kimberly Rivas-Plata) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:32:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Sex! Yeah! No B&S content! well, a PBS reference... Message-ID: Amanda wrote: >The people who have the most sex are those who have some college education >but are not college graduates, the survey found. People who have graduate >degrees are the least likely of all to frequently have sex. Great, and here I am applying to grad schools... Question here: Is it possible to obtain the sheet music for any b&s songs (specifically I'm looking for "Seeing Other People" and "Fox in the snow"). I know the guitar chords are listed on the web pages, but that doesn't help much if you want to try playing the piano bits. Anyone with a keen ear for music who would be able to translate them to notes? I tried, but with no success. thanx, kim P.S. A big THANK YOU to Amanda for sending me a TM tape! Haven't stopped listening to it since (driving my co-workers mental in the process). thank you x1000!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Fri Jan 16 22:26:40 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:26:40 EST Subject: Sinister: Beautiful Isabella Message-ID: Non B&S, but I know there are some tindersticks fans here and if you can't ask someone Sinister, well, who can you? I'm sure there are several other people. The Tindersticks' song with Isabella Rosalini makes me wonder if anyone else here knows if ol' Issy's done any other singing. I know the 'sticks wanted Ms. Rosa specifically because she *wasn't* a singer, but she does it well, and charmingly too. Perhaps Isabellandsebastian Rosalini could replace Monica's portion of LLPJ? For some reason I don't think that would fly... Besides, though I think I'm the minority here, I actually LIKE Monica Queen's addition to the song! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.walker15 at xxx.net Fri Jan 16 22:20:01 1998 From: david.walker15 at xxx.net (David Walker) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:20:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: my days comments...ooh i feel all like the queen.....heehee. References: Message-ID: <34BFDD11.2034@virgin.net> Hello. Sarah wrote.... " So if anyone else fancies coming along :-) please feel free to come to the glam Preston Adelphi on the 22nd." I was pondering going to that, but we were worried `bout the start/finish time there. Primarily because of the public transport thing (have to get the last train back towards Manchester). Have you nay further info on it at all ? Cheers, Tintin -- David Walker The Walker Homepage And Guide To Bolton: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/ Got A Paul Weller link ? Need A Paul Weller link ? Check.... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/links.html (Unfinished version now up and running) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mgmallar at xxx.edu Fri Jan 16 23:22:13 1998 From: mgmallar at xxx.edu (matt mallard) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 15:22:13 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From g.gregorini at xxx.it Fri Jan 16 23:41:56 1998 From: g.gregorini at xxx.it (Giuseppe Gregorini) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 00:41:56 +0100 Subject: R: Sinister: Beautiful Isabella Message-ID: <01bd22d8$5501bee0$c754cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Isabella Rossellini (that's the correct spelling) is an actress, model and many other things (not least she's Roberto Rossellini and Ingrid Bergman's daughter) but not a singer. In an interview she admitted it was her first time, but she didn't exclude other experiences. I can't remember quite well, but maybe she sings in "Blue Velvet". Bye Giuseppe >Non B&S, but I know there are some tindersticks fans here and if you can't ask >someone Sinister, well, who can you? I'm sure there are several other people. >The Tindersticks' song with Isabella Rosalini makes me wonder if anyone else >here knows if ol' Issy's done any other singing. I know the 'sticks wanted >Ms. Rosa specifically because she *wasn't* a singer, but she does it well, and >charmingly too. Perhaps Isabellandsebastian Rosalini could replace Monica's >portion of LLPJ? >For some reason I don't think that would fly... >Besides, though I think I'm the minority here, I actually LIKE Monica Queen's >addition to the song! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 01:18:31 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Snagglepuss) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 01:18:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Crap bands #1 - Dubstar Message-ID: <199801170005.AAA07501@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> > >How I made my Penis (working for Notcutts???) Arghhhh....shit - I find this this very, very disturbing! I swear I wrote pennies! I fucking swear on my life that that is supposed to read pennies! > Does anyone else find this disturbing? > >A small socialist revolution then? Isnt this great! Belle And Sebastian > >are managing to convert a tory voter with their most political song:-) > >Sorry Northy, no offense! > Just bloody lay off him, right, or you'll have me to answer to. Ta Tag no worries. I am now a coverted to the "God on Wheels religion" and the "Stars of Track and Field" party. Northy np: Comfort - "Proof of You" ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sat Jan 17 03:16:50 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 22:16:50 -0500 Subject: R: Sinister: Beautiful Isabella Message-ID: At 12:41 AM 1/17/98, Giuseppe Gregorini wrote: >I can't remember quite well, but maybe she sings in "Blue Velvet". > she does. in the club scenes, she sings the song "blue velvet" once or twice. i don't know enough to comment intelligently on the quality of her voice, but it works extremely well within the context of the movie. (sometimes i use so many words to say very little, sorry.) xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 08:39:13 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:39:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Chadders In-Reply-To: <01bd21ae$bf656000$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 15 Jan 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > ***Actually I think that both the B-Sides album and the Second Album are > both brilliant, there's some great songs on both, and the B side album > contains many songs that were intended for the second album anyway, also > songs they did on their Peel Sessions (that Don't turn blue one). > That "Came a cropper" one is "The Hedonist" which is actually a dead > early song dating to the first release of "Shine on" ***yes, i know: my point was that it was dreadful on there as well, and i wondered why on earth they'd chosen to rerecord that when there were so many better songs from around then: also, the original version of shine on is better than the4 one on butterfly*** , there's also a > cracking load of songs, Plastic; Flow; Welt; Nothing to me which are > completely Ace too. ***hmmm. we'll have to agree to differ on this one*** Personally I'd say the House of Love only became shite > at the time of the fourth LP which I remember came out the same time as the > first Verve LP. I bought them both and was heartily disappointed by both of > them. > Another little gem which is worth paying a quid for the in the bargain > bins is the 12" of "The Girl with the Lonliest Eyes" which has two amazing > Chadwick original B sides on it as well as a brilliant cover of the Chills' > Pink Frost. ***true. *** > The B-Sides LP also contains a cracking picture of Chadwick on the inner > sleeve in an amazing "vertical arms" pose. And the cover is a picture of his > dog, "Sly Chadwick". Haha.*** > > Sorry, no hamster content. > > Cheers, > Keith. > > ***and ditto, alastair...*** (sorry to all those looking for b&s content..... but the house of love should have been a great band)> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 08:43:13 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:43:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Guy Chadwick/Scott Walker In-Reply-To: <34BE5F00.E554F84@colon.net.> Message-ID: > A friend of mine once bought about a hundred and thirty-two > different versions of "The Beatles and the Stones". That > song had some good lines in it as well, put the "v" in > vietnam and so on. I enjoyed his argument with that Bickers > fella. His guitar playing was like a disease apparently. *** bickers was a genius: did anyone hear any of the levitation records?*** alastair ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 08:49:38 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 08:49:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Pastels this sat... In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980116122555.006911a4@194.238.147.3> Message-ID: On Fri, 16 Jan 1998, Seymour Stein wrote: > Considering how many pastels fans there are her...probably loads, are any > listees planning to go to the Garage this Saturday? > > The exceptional Novak are playing ***saw them at the dublin castle and they were wonderful, with the possible exception of the second percussionist who looked like george from rainbow and played a different obscure percussion-instrument every song (neither of these are of course reasons why he was crap but he just had an air about him....): they're definitely worth seeing, and the ep's excellent*** alastair> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sat Jan 17 11:01:32 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:01:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: The funniest thing I've ever heard In-Reply-To: <199801162238.WAA21729@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801162238.WAA21729@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34c08f56.180990@email.mcmail.com> Dear all, Just got back from London, listening to the wonderful Air single, and find this: >Tag. Essex, ex - punk. Lots of books on shelves made of wood and bricks. I simply cannot tell you how funny this is. Simon, you're a fucking star. The reality is: Born of Scottish/Potteries stock, in Sutton Coldfield, lived near Swindon, and resident of Manchester for 12 1/2 years. The result is an untracable accent, making me equally unacceptabe to Cockneys and Northerners alike. Ex-cutie. Lots of records, videos and pictures of Francoise Hardy. Elsewhere... >which seems to be a weird insinuation of sensuality and food combined.which >neatly lowers the conversation onto aphrodisiacs, No insinuation at all - you should see what I can do with a Tunnock's caramel bar. >has anyone read any Isabelle Allende? as she's due to release a book about >the indistinguishable line between the eroticism of good food and sexuality, >and i'd quite like to know what her past books are like and am too lazy to >read. Can't help there. But have you seen Tampopo? >katrina's an antipodean in relation to my birth place, she hails from the >most removed city in the world - Perth, western oz. but you'd never tell from >her smooth london tainted accent. She calls everyone 'cobber' and wears one of those hats with corks on it. And she can play 'Two little boys' on the stylophone. >"Christine......still walking with me.......still talking with >me....Christine, Christine" (Christine) I was convinced it was 'Christine - still walking the dog'. I couldn't bear to listen to that having just been dumped by a girl of that name. Strangely enough, just after I graduated... >The people who have the most sex are those who have some college education >but are not college graduates, the survey found. People who have graduate >degrees are the least likely of all to frequently have sex. Doh! >Jazz enthusiasts are 30 percent more sexually active than the average >person, the survey found. Grrreat >sexual activity is also above average for "extreme conservatives." Northy, get in there my son! Love Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ben at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 11:12:00 1998 From: ben at xxx.uk (Ben Slater) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:12:00 +0000 (WET) Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From navillus at xxx.com Sat Jan 17 11:27:46 1998 From: navillus at xxx.com (marcus sullivan) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 03:27:46 PST Subject: Sinister: on going chadwick debate Message-ID: <19980117112747.6832.qmail@hotmail.com> Guy Chadwick, could have been a contender. There was a point when it looked like HoL were going to be massive. They had the boy Bickers on board and many, many FX pedals. And yet as has been pointed out they had some really bad moments. 'specially on the lyrics front. I would like to nominate 'Love in a Car' as Chadwick's worst moment, nevermind all the dubious oceanic metaphor claptrap, the man obviously believes there is nothing wrong with rhyming far and car. This is only a step away from the maybe, baby, save me Noel Gallagher school of song writing. Still B&S are awfully good aren't they? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 11:56:10 1998 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:56:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jay Jay Johanson rules.Yeah. Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980117115610.235ffd5c@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> Hello sinisters, >Honeydive Paul wrote: >Tag, Susannah, Keith, Peter Miller and Chris Leonard have carte-blanche to post Surely you forgot Genial Genevieve and Kelly Minate. Can I have carte-(sacre)bleu, please? Tag should be kicked out - his wicked sense of humour suggests exciting eggs. He's great actually, girls. >Javier wrote: >And do you like spanish group Le Mans? Hola Javier. I've only heard the azure novela 7", it's not bad. Elefant rocks. Aquarela es linda tambien. >Sarah wrote: >Tom Jones, the MAN! And he was in (the much hated, I know) mars attacks. Rheinallt H.Rowland (Welsh songsmith) is another MAN! (Scott 4 is a band, of course: never trust people with cowboy hats. Unless they're Beck.) Will this mention do?: Sin with Sebastian (an underrated hit in its own right) See you at Los Pasteles con Stereonovak. Kelly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elzachar at xxx.no Sat Jan 17 12:09:26 1998 From: elzachar at xxx.no (Elisabeth Zachariassen) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:09:26 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister:Bradford? Message-ID: <199801171209.NAA23632@online.no> Hi, I just wondered if there are any from Bradford on the list. You see, I've got a wonderful friend who is moving there next week and is looking for a place to live. He's housetrained, very nice AND tonight I'm going to give him one of my "3..6..9 seconds of light" posters to take with him....... How can you resist? Elisabeth Z ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From g.gregorini at xxx.it Sat Jan 17 10:32:50 1998 From: g.gregorini at xxx.it (Giuseppe Gregorini) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:32:50 +0100 Subject: R: Sinister: Guy Chadwick/Scott Walker Message-ID: <01bd2333$4521f700$af55cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> My first reaction at the publication of "Shine on" was enthusiastic (remember that non english-speaking people tend to put the lyrics at the bottom of their evaluation standards), but the first LP and the singles'compilation left an impression of vague dissatisfaction in me. >*** bickers was a genius: did anyone hear any of the levitation >records?*** I didn't like their cd, but every time I listen to The Cradle's "Second nature" on the Volume 16 compilation I'm puzzled by the way it always strikes me. BTW, can anyone tell me what happened to Volume? Bye Giuseppe ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From g.gregorini at xxx.it Sat Jan 17 12:22:51 1998 From: g.gregorini at xxx.it (Giuseppe Gregorini) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:22:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle and sebastian on the radio Message-ID: <01bd2342$a13ec0e0$af55cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Just to let you know that this morning, for the first time, I've listened to a BandS song on an italian radio. It was "Mayfly" and it has turned my day (although rainy) on. Is this the beginning of the BandS globalization? I imagine them making commercials for some cola (perhaps Karamaltz or Chinotto), hugging some Royal or presenting their movie. Any idea for the title? Bye Giuseppe -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rnorth at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 14:34:17 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Snagglepuss) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:34:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Where did their boat go? Mainstream....... Message-ID: <199801171321.NAA26443@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> I am feeling very mainstream Can anyone make me a tape of these cool underground(ish) bands that they keep talking about. Now if you are like me and can only make a tape if it is for someone else. Evidence - thousands of half made tapes around my room (too young for a house!) which were made for myself. I mean I have never heard any stuff by: Nick Cave Northern Soul Pastels Holiday House of Love (well one song!) Delgadoes the Goats and stuff anyone want to educate me? in return I can offer a Radiohead or Catatonia conversion kit. as you all think I am a miserable Radiohead loving gimboid I reccommend the Cataonia kit. Anyone going to see them at the Camden Electric Balroom in February? What tube station is that? Camden Town I presume but you can never be too sure. np: Headswim - Tourniquet. bye Northy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 14:34:17 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Snagglepuss) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:34:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The funniest thing I've ever heard Message-ID: <199801171321.NAA26440@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> > Just got back from London, listening to the wonderful Air single, and > find this: This is indeed a brilliant song! "sexy booyyy....." ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 14:34:17 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Snagglepuss) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:34:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: International Velvet (ooohhhh.....new Catatonia album soon!!!) Message-ID: <199801171321.NAA26446@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> York University? I am visiting soon to see if I like it better than Bangor (I doubt it) I am doing shitty A level mocks at the moment. BTW. There is a huge B&S fan at York (might be you for all I know) who has a copy of Tigermilk and once turned down £150 for it!! At the moment I would be prepared to pay £200 and nothing more. > So, no offence meant None taken but purleasee! > Northy. Well, manchester accent, kind of northern uproar. Big Hair. A nice thought but unfortunately not! I am 2 back and sides Surrey, material. Though certain amounts of Feltham and Stanwell have drifted into my broad Ashford accent. Big Hair......ha ha ha My favourite songs of all time (in no particular order as I can't decide) Catatonia: Some Half Baked Ideal Called Wonderful Radiohead: Paranoid Android Belle and Sebastian: Dog on Wheels TIP: Before going to a concert DO NOT listen to the band's records. Leave a couple of weeks where you don't listen at all. I did this with the Lightning Seeds (surprise ticket - hadn't listened to them for months) and was blown away. Maybe they are just the best live band I have ever seen but those songs were injected with some good shit and were made alive again for me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jamie.huxley at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 13:42:50 1998 From: jamie.huxley at xxx.uk (Jamie Huxley) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:42:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 13:49:40 1998 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (SL Collins) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 13:49:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S Interview. In-Reply-To: <01bd2333$4521f700$af55cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Message-ID: I just went into town and picked up a free fanzine from my local indie shop. It's called CHARM and is available in Harrogate, Leeds, York and Manchester. There's an A5 size interview with Chris Geddes about food, playstation football, B&S being not too prolific in front of goal, and some other stuff. Apparently if Cameron Diaz was coming round for dinner, Chris would cook her cheese sauce and lentil bolognaise and have Bulgarian Cabernet to wash it down with. He also says that Stuart David might be doing a single of spoken word stuff, and maybe an LP too. If I can be bothered, and if its not breaking copyright( though it would be for home use only ) I could send it to the list sometime. That'll be all Simon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Sat Jan 17 14:38:09 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Keep Your Mind Open) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:38:09 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Evaluation scale of lyrics (was: Guy Chadwick) Message-ID: <199801171438.PAA17546@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Giuseppe Gregorini wrote ... >My first reaction at the publication of "Shine on" was enthusiastic >(remember that non english-speaking people tend to put the lyrics at the >bottom of their evaluation standards) My only reaction at the publication of "Shine on" was indifference (remember that non-english speaking people are forced to write e-mails in their native language, which sounds pretty much like English anyway) Actually I'm aware of many foreign P!O!P! enthusiasts who tend to put the lyrics at the top of their evaluation scale, including Italians ... naturally the music makes an artist interesting in the first place, but following that I for one consider the lyrics as the most important issue. The House Of Love never passed the first threshold ... but sometimes artists like, for example, The Legend! compensate the weakness at the first threshold by writing excellent lyrics ... talking about B&S content. §;^D Seriously speaking, please respect the purpose of this list and stop talking about Gay Chagrin ... "Everything's coming up roses" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From yazansam at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 14:58:45 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Yaz) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:58:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Los Pasteles con Stereonovak : WARNING!! Message-ID: <199801171504.PAA02349@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Dear Kelly (& everyone else going to see the Pastels) This is a warning to all those who will be in the Garage/ Highbury&Islington vicinity at nineteen hundred hours tonight: WARNING: A badly dressed irish male (otherwise known as Mr. Sean-I'm-piss'funny-really-Hughes) will be seen in the bar area tonight trying to look cool. Also in the bar area tonight will be Lawrence, the head of Domino, who according to Mr. Hughes, can easily be spotted by the fact that he resembles "a staid Julian Clary". Erm, B&S content... Weell, Steve from the Pastels who was being interviewed on GLR by Sean said that the band (and I know most of you probably already know this, but i'm desperate for a link) was good friends with other Glaswegian bands, such as Teenage Fanclub and, get this, Belle and Sebastian. But Arab Strap weren't apparently such good friends becoz they were from Falkirk, and therfore much harder - (which is weird coz i thought Arab Strap s'portd B&S on their last tour) Anyway everyone, beware... LOve (Longpigs styleee) yAz. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.walker15 at xxx.net Sat Jan 17 14:51:02 1998 From: david.walker15 at xxx.net (David Walker) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 14:51:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The funniest thing I've ever heard References: <199801171321.NAA26440@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34C0C556.37FB@virgin.net> Hello, It was written.... "> Just got back from London, listening to the wonderful Air single, and > find this: This is indeed a brilliant song! "sexy booyyy....." Listening to the album yesterday (it comes out on Monday) and it is just as good as you would have hoped. All that kind of easy listening, moogy, weird sound that the single hints at. Buy it !! Cheers, Tintin -- David Walker The Walker Homepage And Guide To Bolton: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/ Got A Paul Weller link ? Need A Paul Weller link ? Check.... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/links.html (Unfinished version now up and running) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From klas.ericsson at xxx.se Sat Jan 17 16:18:06 1998 From: klas.ericsson at xxx.se (Klas Ericsson) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:18:06 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Beginning to see the light - =?iso-8859-1?Q?I=B4m?= set free Message-ID: I say, My schooldays are over... Yes I´ve made my exams and are finally leaving university. Which is great. The not so great part (?;-)) is that my email acount is no longer. Therefore, good bye! I really enjoyed the sinisterlist, you guys have brightened up my days, especially during the last fifteen weeks of permanent hell before the exam. So before I´m off: # Keith, could you send Athoels address to: klas.ericsson at usa.net? Thanks! #A mullet is called hockey-hairdo in swedish, if anyone´s interested. #And, um, sorry for picking on Northy. Who I think should give Joy Division a second chance. # And great thanks to David & Katrina, and Paul! And to the rest of you... Bye, Klas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 18:12:18 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (Snagglepuss) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 18:12:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mouse of Love? Guy is a poor name! Message-ID: <199801171659.QAA14607@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Just to enter in on a debate I know nothing about! I heard this song on the radio today (beatles and stones) and it sounded OK. I have also heard one Guy Chadwick song on the radio and it was really good - very melodic. Northy (Cerys Matthews is a God) ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Fri Jan 16 18:10:13 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 19:10:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: It's Friday, it's five to five... References: <01BD2288.57348BC0@pc7628> Message-ID: <34BFA285.7F061397@colon.net.> Adrian Evans wrote: > What is it like to have a Belle and Sebastian dream ? > > Yours insomniacally (???) > Marvellous. I recently had one about the Great Judy and the Dream of Horses Mug Heist in a secluded Manchester car park. I can't remember much about it though. The robbers were robbing and there was nothing anybody could do about it because it was a dream. David was there in his pink velour hat and Keith was banging on the window in his new Pastels turtleneck. Paul, I demand that Duke be given carte blanche to talk shite as well. Where have I heard the name Gerard Cosloy before? I'm going to have a look at Andy Dean's photo in a minute. Then I will know what three people look like, Paul Choo Choo Mitchell, Stephen Pantaloons and Andy. That Guardian article was most entertaining. One question: since when was Gregg's a cosmopolitan eaterie? One of these days I will get round to hearing some of the bands in question. Anyone interested in the Lanarkshire no-man's land mentioned in the article should look out for a repeat of "The Football Men", a documentary about Frankly Bill Shankly, Matt Busby and Jock Stein. I thought it was going to be a boring load of old bollocks, but it turned out to be really good, quite moving in fact. Even if you don't like football. It might have been the Ayrshire no-man's land, I'm not sure, but it's the same difference anyway. It features William McIllvanney (sp?) who can often be spied in the self same cosmopolitan eateries favoured by our own Belle and Sebastian. He looks like a policeman. Would someone be kind enough to describe Future Pilot? They seem to be so widely disliked that I'm quite curious now. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Sat Jan 17 19:26:56 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:26:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: No interesting B&S content References: Message-ID: <34C10600.EA77CA8F@colon.net.> SL Collins wrote: > As i read these mails I realised that I associate > different accents with > the regular writers. Some of them also have clothes and > hair cuts, and > even ear rings. > > So, no offence meant, these are some of my suppositions: > I imagine Keith to be a kind of Davy Jones lookalike in a tight turtleneck sweater that makes it look as if he's got tits. Tag I imagine as Dennis Pennis, who I've only ever seen in magazines. I imagine Andy Dean to have really thick glasses that make his eyes look bigger than they really are. This makes his clutching his handbag and going "Oooooooooo-oooooooo!" to Steven Wells even funnier. I imagine Honey to be a bit like Worzel Gummidge when he's got his reading head on, but that's cheating because I've seen a picture. He speaks in a really thick scouse accent and ends every sentence with "cracker, la" Can I go now? Smart arse Miller ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Sat Jan 17 19:44:06 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:44:06 +0100 Subject: Sinister: NB&S References: <199801150026.AAA14441@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> <34bdce9e.1727324@email.mcmail.com> <34BFA96E.D6432947@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <34C10A06.4C3EE9C2@colon.net.> David & Katrina wrote: > Tag wrote: > > > >On a different note - Guy Chadwick once sang "I don't > know > > >why I love you, your face is like a foreign food". It's > crap > > >and it doesn't even rhyme. > > > > Hey - I'd forgotten that one. I must say if I ever ever > met anyone > > whose face (or any other body part) was tiramisu they > could have my > > hand in marriage. Or my hand in anywhere for that > matter. > > which seems to be a weird insinuation of sensuality and > food combined.which > neatly lowers the conversation onto aphrodisiacs, > has anyone read any Isabelle Allende? as she's due to > release a book about > the indistinguishable line between the eroticism of good > food and sexuality, > and i'd quite like to know what her past books are like > and am too lazy to > read. > It's already out here mate. Yes, I realise this is of little or no interest but it's not often I can gloat about anything. In the intersts of making myself mildly useful, I have just asked my flatmates if they have got any Isabel Allende books and they have, "Paula", so I asked what it was like. Apaarently it's about her daughter going to a better place, interwoven with the story of the military uprising in Chile. Seeems that she is niece or something of Whatisname Allende, who was president before Pinochet turned up and did whatever he did. All of which is very topical because Pinochet is back in action (don't ask me) and somebody has released a tape of him threatening Allende. Or something like that. I'm afraid I'm not very up on this business, much to my shame. The shagging and cooking book "Afrodita" is selling very well, I think. Sex, sex, sex... Generalisimo Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From samiam2 at xxx.com Sat Jan 17 20:04:15 1998 From: samiam2 at xxx.com (Sam Khater) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:04:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Promo 'IFYS' and Trembling Blue Stars Message-ID: <34C10EBF.4AB6@ix.netcom.com> I apologize if this has been mentioned before, but after a night of somewhat inebriated frolic and fun, I stumbled into a record store that opens late and heard B&S playing in the backgroud. I realized that this was not a song I had (I have all but Tigermilk), so I asked the clerk what B&S song was playing and he replies 'Judy...'. I listened more intently and realised it was a fairly different version than the one on the album. I asked him to flip through the songs as I browsed their cd collection. After listening to snippets of most songs, it seemed like half were somewhat different versions, either different recording or mix...I couldn't tell. Does anyone know about this? The clerk did not know that they were different versions and said he would call his friend Pam Berry about it. I responded in languishing slur...errr I know her, she's on this list. Also, I scored two cds I've been looking for. The Chills best of and Trembling Blue Stars 'Rainbow' cd single. This is the first time I've heard TBS. Rainbow sounded like the Beloved in the Conscience era. The vocals sounded like Gillian Gilbert of the Other Two. The b side 'Although I still' is a straight ahead acoustic affair. The other b-side is 'She's Always There' which sounded a lot like the Lilac Time circa the late '80s. So my question is which song best describes their sound, or is it all three? DC B&Sers - are we still getting together next week? If so, I have an idea for where to go later on that night. Poole is playing at Velvet Lounge (U Street Cardoza area, I think that's near 9:30 club), I keep hearing a lot good stuff about them. Let me know what you think. Andy, how was Luna? Sam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From samiam2 at xxx.com Sat Jan 17 20:14:14 1998 From: samiam2 at xxx.com (Sam Khater) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:14:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Stephen Duffy's New Album Message-ID: <34C11116.2ECB@ix.netcom.com> All these posts from Tin Tin reminded me of the other Tin Tin, though he's dropped that moniker. Cooking Vinyl (who have just signed XTC, coincidentally) are releasing "I Love My Friends" on March 30th in the U.K. The single "17" comes out two weeks before that (not the lavish three cd affair, just one). As far as recording goes, the Lilacs are purchasing a 17th century computer (Stephen's words, not mine) and some hard disk recording gear and will begin recording THE LILAC TIME '99 in the summer. Oh, and the Legacy & Jazz label (Sony) in Japan will release a reissue of "Astronauts" at mid-price with 7 or 8 extra tracks. I have more details if anyone is interested. This info comes from someone who is in touch with Stephen. Sam 'A happiness that makes you choke beyond words' - Duffy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jesandy at xxx.edu Sat Jan 17 20:37:55 1998 From: jesandy at xxx.edu (Jennifer ) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:37:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: no b&s-- go betweens Message-ID: <01bd2387$ca7eb2e0$1e169f95@jimmy..> hello all you beautiful people! my question is this- if i were to buy a go betweens album (which i hear is a good idea), which one would you all suggest? i really have no information on them and am sort of buying on a whim. to make it less whim-like (oo, a new word!) i thought maybe someone could enlighten me on which album is regarded as the best. i can't seem to find a greatest hits or anything like that, so i'm at a loss. thanks much! jennifer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sat Jan 17 20:45:24 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 15:45:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Isabelle Allende Message-ID: At 11:01 AM 1/17/98, Tag wrote: >>has anyone read any Isabelle Allende? as she's due to release a book about >>the indistinguishable line between the eroticism of good food and sexuality, >>and i'd quite like to know what her past books are like and am too lazy to >>read. > >Can't help there. But have you seen Tampopo? isabel allende is a chilean author. her uncle was actually actually the president of chile at some point, which i believe has something to do with the fact that she lives in exile in california. her books are full of magical realism and contain some pretty good human insight too. i'd recommend reading anything that she has written. if you're into food and sexuality, you really must read like water for choclate by laura esquivel (i believe that's her name, i don't have the book with me). the two overlap perfectly, with the heroine being born in the kitchen, crying from the onions, and it just goes on from there. and of course, there's always the seinfeld episode where george tries to convince his girlfriend to let him eat during sex. ;) xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plastik at xxx.com Sat Jan 17 21:08:49 1998 From: plastik at xxx.com (dina passman) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 16:08:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Promo 'IFYS' and Trembling Blue Stars References: <34C10EBF.4AB6@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <34C11DE1.681F@erols.com> Sam Khater wrote: > DC B&Sers - are we still getting together next week? If so, I have > an idea for where to go later on that night. Poole is playing at > > Velvet Lounge (U Street Cardoza area, I think that's near 9:30 > > >club), I keep hearing a lot good stuff about them. Let me know what >you think. sam, you wouldn't get me out going to see poole, i'll tell you that much. for a more appropriate meet-up i would suggest tonights in-store at DcCd in Adam's Morgan for the Heartworms and Mark Robinson show. the Heartworms are by far the best that dc has to offer (although the castaway stones are really coming into form, i hear). be there or be elsewhere.... mount pleasant citizen > dina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Sat Jan 17 22:09:42 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Keep Your Mind Open) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 23:09:42 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: no b&s-- go betweens Message-ID: <199801172209.XAA07664@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Jennifer wrote ... > hello all you beautiful people! < You were obviously expecting my answer. §;^D > my question is this- if i were to buy a go betweens album (which i hear is a good idea), which one would you all suggest? i can't seem to find a greatest hits or anything like that, so i'm at a loss. < Actually there is a fine collection of highlights available on the _1978-90_ DLP/CD. Unfortunately both may be out of print, but I'm stumbling across copies in second hand shops regularly. Anyway, please note that the vinyl offers some additional tracks including their masterpiece "Karen". Furthermore, you may be very lucky in finding any of the following at reasonable prices ... "Lee Remick" 7", "People say" 7", "I need two heads" 7", "The Able Label Singles" 12" (compiling the "Lee Remick" and "People say" 7"'s). Although I'm not much of a Go-Betweens enthusiast, save those early singles, I'm aware of their output and the compilation mentioned above is a good starting point including some of the early stuff which has been highly sought after ever since ... B&S content ? Fellow Sinister listee Tag is pursueing the Robert Forster look ... at least that's what I've been told from reliable sources. §;^D "Strangely beautiful" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Sat Jan 17 23:50:25 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 23:50:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: ChaChaCohen In-Reply-To: <199801171209.NAA23632@online.no> Message-ID: Hiya Sinistereans Anyone going down to see ChaChaCohen at Park Royal Hotel in LEEDS on the 23rd JAN. Tunic will be supporting them. Any idea where is the location of this hotel and where can I purchase the tickets? HAs anyone heard of Tunic before? What style of music do they play? Hmm.... wonder whether David Gedge will be popping in? Cheers D A N I E L O O .... still in the middle of the exams!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sun Jan 18 01:52:21 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 20:52:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: sleepy sleepy sleepy Message-ID: <199801180152.UAA02529@Vector.inexpress.net> Oh dear lovelys, Hello..forgive me please if this poast is ummmmm..stupid? I'm so tired! It was a sleepover and my friends wouldn't let me sleep!and isn't it weird,when you go to sleep..and you wake up in a different place and you don't remember moving there?they watch a lot of videos...no no Century of Fakers vid...i actually saw cornershop..so now I know all about that 'brimfull of asha' they didn't sound like i thought they would...very bounce bounce....but then it was all James Spader movies..'Dreamlover' hmmmmm...what can I say about it?And how come James Spader is always the stud mouffin in movies..... >And I think Neil Hannon is a splendid little chap. he is! .... 'oh come on...everybody knows that no means yes' rrrow rrrrrowwww..... :) >SCOTTISH BANDS - WEST END PEARLS. By Tom Cox. >After a few years being buffeted around half-invented weekly music press >scenes, Glasgow is set to transcend previous tags - lo-fi retro - though sheer >eclecticism. In the first half of 1998, expect new albums from Belle And >Sebastian, Superstar, Urusei Yatsura, The Delgados, Adventures In Stereo, Arab >Strap, The Pastels, The Leopards, Future Pilot AKA, 18 Wheeler and Mogwai. Oh wow,my goodness, how many beautiful and shiny Scottish bands there are that I didn't know..oh,here's a little bit for you,but you probably already know: January 22...Arab Strap and Mogwai on the NME internet chat.... Belle and Sebastian dreams...I have not have one yet..(I don't think so..I usually can't remember them unless they're those good ones where I end up kissing the dreamboy in the end) ...Mmmm,,hey maybe tonight I will dream of them!I have had a nice pop star dream just a little while ago though..a balloon carried me away to some lovely sand dunes where the Longpigs just HAPPENED to be (convienantly) louging about. it was chilly today! Hungry... so we went to the depanneur ..just down the road..for those noodles..alfredo..when we decided we should go for a drive,we were thinking how nice it would be to just drive off to Montreal..but we went to the city instead..damnnn.. I should just drive off somewhere some day (if I had my license) ..too bad England is across the ocean!... oh dears..I guess I better go then,I'm sleepy sleepy..and not making much sense sweet dreams 'n kisses under warm blankets! xoxoxo Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From g.gregorini at xxx.it Sun Jan 18 09:10:01 1998 From: g.gregorini at xxx.it (Giuseppe Gregorini) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 10:10:01 +0100 Subject: R: Sinister: Evaluation scale of lyrics (was: Guy Chadwick) Message-ID: <01bd23f0$ff7ac100$ac54cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Andreas wrote: >My only reaction at the publication of "Shine on" was indifference >(remember that non-english speaking people are forced to write e-mails in >their native language, which sounds pretty much like English anyway) But the average listener doesn't understand the lyrics and a good evaluation is impossible ( not many bands, especially the so-called indie, include a lyrics sheet ). >Actually I'm aware of many foreign P!O!P! enthusiasts who tend to put the >lyrics at the top of their evaluation scale, including Italians ... >naturally the music makes an artist interesting in the first place, but >following that I for one consider the lyrics as the most important issue. >The House Of Love never passed the first threshold ... but sometimes artists >like, for example, The Legend! compensate the weakness at the first >threshold by writing excellent lyrics ... talking about B&S content. §;^D That's an interesting issue. I tend to look at pop songs as simple levers: at the right there's music, at the left the lyrics. The ideal pop song is the equilibrium position. BandS are the perfect equilibrium, so the Smiths and not many others. Anyway, when you have very good lyrics and fetid music, my lever's mental image has a balloon saying: why don't you write a book? Do you really think you're giving more power to your words with those farts? The other extreme is more unfathomable.I still listen to beautiful songs with ridiculous text. I can't remember songs that made pop music history with very good lyrics and poor music, while the contrary is true. Maybe it's in the pop song's ability to freeze an instant, a sensation, the zeitgeist whatever you want to call this magical connection to something important and meaningful for many people. Er, I swear I'm not a case of delirium tremens. Bye, Giuseppe ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From g.gregorini at xxx.it Sun Jan 18 09:50:27 1998 From: g.gregorini at xxx.it (Giuseppe Gregorini) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 10:50:27 +0100 Subject: R: Sinister: Isabelle Allende Message-ID: <01bd23f6$81abf860$ac54cfc1@mod005k1.mo.nettuno.it> Tag wrote: >>>has anyone read any Isabelle Allende? as she's due to release a book about >>>the indistinguishable line between the eroticism of good food and sexuality, >>>and i'd quite like to know what her past books are like and am too lazy to >>>read. She's a chilean writer, forced to live in California after the 1973 golpe. I remember "The House of the spirits" as a very good novel, a family saga reflecting Chilean history and with some points reminding me of Garcia Marquez. BTW, Salvador Allende was the president of Chile, democratically elected and killed during the Pinochet's golpe, obviously supported by the USA. Allende was a socialist and that was enough. Thousands of people were imprisoned, tortured and killed, other forced to exile. I know, thanks to a British friend, that the first page of the "Daily Telegraph" had banner headlines praising gen.Pinochet for his job. We'd better go back to our BandS. Bye, Giuseppe ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Sun Jan 18 12:10:54 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 12:10:54 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: It's Friday, it's five to five... In-Reply-To: <34BFA285.7F061397@colon.net.> Message-ID: > Paul, I demand that Duke be given carte blanche to talk > shite as well. Demand accepted. Of course. And Genevieve of course, whose number one fan I now officially am - she has confirmed, so sorry boys, and I'm going to make a badge. And lots of other people who are bloody stupid who I forgot and have grossly insulted. You've all started being very well behaved and I feel chastened and bowed. HoneyChoo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Sun Jan 18 16:23:42 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 16:23:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sexy booooyeeeeeee Message-ID: <34C22C8E.78DF@seahouses.u-net.com> Oi! I read of talk about Sexy Boy by Air, I keep see the video on the MTV BUT and it is a big butt we tried to get it in all the major high street chainstores in Manchester yesterday, when does the single come out? Someone on here said they were listening to the album, how, if it isn't out yet? I did buy Babe Rainbow by the by now infamous House Of Love, also I bought a best of Nick Heyward and Haircut 100 CD, Skylarking by XTC, Welcome To The Pleasuredome and of course Better Living Through Chemistry by Fatboy Slim. Which is nice. Another wet sunday afternoon. Football on sky sports. Hoorah! byeeee JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plastik at xxx.com Sun Jan 18 18:36:30 1998 From: plastik at xxx.com (dina passman) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:36:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sexy booooyeeeeeee References: <34C22C8E.78DF@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: <34C24BAE.4525@erols.com> john, moon safari (new LP) by AIR comes out on the 19th in Europe and i the US on Caroline on the 27th. this is way too exciting... the vixen > dina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plastik at xxx.com Sun Jan 18 18:36:56 1998 From: plastik at xxx.com (dina passman) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:36:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sexy booooyeeeeeee References: <34C22C8E.78DF@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: <34C24BC8.42D@erols.com> john, moon safari (new LP) by AIR comes out on the 19th in Europe and in the US on Caroline on the 27th. this is way too exciting... the vixen > dina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sun Jan 18 18:52:52 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:52:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: whoops...you can hit me if you want Message-ID: <199801181852.NAA21217@Vector.inexpress.net> So sorry,I replied to this post..but then it got lost...and ummmm,but it's back again! >PS Genevieve - what's all this about a secret Longpigs track - where, >how and why did no-one tell me? And more importantly, what's all this >about Stuart evans getting married without me? (Sound of sobbing in >background) Can this heart-stopping news really be true? Are they all >married ? Well,I think it's secret....it's not listed as a track....but if you leave The Sun Is Often Out (little cutie fact here: Simon Stafford picked that title!) a song that is at very veyr low volume will come on...and it's kinda like a lovely lullaby with Crispin Hunt singing and watching you as you sleep singing 'but one of these days,you're sure to be gone..so I'll have to carry on without you' Ohh! *sniff sniff* lil' baby doll! Anyways...it's good enough to be put on the album as a real track...but Crispin said he liekd the idead oh somone fallng asleep to this....1...2...3 (all together..DEEP siiiigh) I don't think Stuart Evans is married...oh dear,I hope not...but *cough cough* SOMEONE else is..... >I love JACK too. >"Pioneer Soundtrack" is a magnificent album and I would recommend it to >everyone on this list. JACK made my year in 96, just like BELLE & SEBASTIAN >did in 1997. >Both bands release a new album in 1998 and I can't wait to hear them ! >(JACK's one will be called "The Jazz Age", I think...) >Elle est pas belle la vie ?!??? >1998 is gonna be MAGNIFIQUE ! > >Anne (Creme Anglaise fanzine) this is so strange....Anne I want to thank you...it was by ordering your first issue of Creme Anglaise zine that I saw Jack (who I never saw before!) and went out and bought Pioneer Soundtracks..a similar thing happened with my friend Layla..she got the issue with Linoleum on the cover,then decided to get the album as well....hmmmmm! meow! xoxo Genevieve... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From samiam2 at xxx.com Sun Jan 18 18:58:32 1998 From: samiam2 at xxx.com (Sam Khater) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 13:58:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Food and Sexuality (non B&S) Message-ID: <34C250D8.25E6@ix.netcom.com> I saw movie that addressed food and sexuality a couple of years ago. I think it's called 'Like Water for Chocolate'. I think it was a Spanish or Mexican subtitled flick, very enjoyable. Sam > which seems to be a weird insinuation of sensuality and > food combined.which > neatly lowers the conversation onto aphrodisiacs, > has anyone read any Isabelle Allende? as she's due to > release a book about > the indistinguishable line between the eroticism of good > food and sexuality, > and i'd quite like to know what her past books are like > and am too lazy to > read. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mattn at xxx.com Sun Jan 18 19:46:25 1998 From: mattn at xxx.com (Matthew A. Neimark) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 14:46:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sinister...Different Mix Message-ID: <01BD241F.DA949A80@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> Sam said: >I realized that thiswas not a song I had (I have all but Tigermilk), so I asked >the clerk what B&S song was playing and he replies 'Judy...'. I listened more >intently and realised it was a fairly different version than the one on >the album. I think that the Enclave's sinister was mixed differently. On a professional production standpoint, one could arguably say it was better. A lot of the background instruments come out very rich and you wouldn't think they were an indie band. One can only imagine first hearing the Enclave's sinister and then comparing that to the 8-trackness of Dog On Wheels (which were all demos I think). Matt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gar at xxx.uk Sun Jan 18 20:01:38 1998 From: gar at xxx.uk (Gordon A Rogers) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:01:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: Terry Callier Message-ID: <199801182001.UAA05793@raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk> Do I remember someone discussing Terry Callier a while back ? - He's Playing in Aberdeen (wow a musician in this shit hole). So does anyone have any info for me ? > Its like a mullet only kind of indie-fied at the front (sort of > floppy) and al a bit more scruffy and greasy lookin' at the back... > I know this sounds like just someone with long hair but its honestly > not... Its not really lond at the sides.... > Anyone else noted this or other mulletations.....? Surely this is what Old Man Weller and his bunch of sad cronies are all wearing. On another note picked up a Phil Spector compilation in Oxfam for 50p (it was still wrapped in a plastic cover) what sort of fool gives these things away ? I figured it was someone who was dead. Anyway I actually enjoyed the Righteous Brothers tunes on this record which has sent me in to trauma (I thought they were the reserve of rugby boys and hockey girls or vice versa). - Gordon (Avoiding making my computer evolve). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Sun Jan 18 21:24:14 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 21:24:14 GMT Subject: Sinister: Sin with Sebastian In-Reply-To: <199801172029.UAA29632@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801172029.UAA29632@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34c372ce.1338338@email.mcmail.com> It's that time again.... Kelly wrote: >Surely you forgot Genial Genevieve and Kelly Minate. Can I have >carte-(sacre)bleu, please? >Tag should be kicked out - his wicked sense of humour suggests exciting eggs. Can anyone explain what that means? Exciting eggs - you really don't want to know what that suggests to me. >Will this mention do?: Sin with Sebastian (an underrated hit in its own right) Did they do that 'don't have sex with your ex' thing? I like records with good advice. Not as good as 'Lick it' by 20 Fingers (featuring Gillette). They of 'Short Dick Man' fame ... 'You gotta lick it/Before you kick it'. Her parents must be so proud of her. Northy wrote >I mean I have never heard any stuff by: >Nick Cave >Northern Soul Apparently some Australian tourist book describes Manchester as the home of the thriving Northern Soul scene epitomised by 'such bands as Happy Mondays and the Stone Roses'. David Walker wrote >Just got back from London, listening to the wonderful Air single, and find this: > >This is indeed a brilliant song! "sexy booyyy....." > >>Listening to the album yesterday (it comes out on Monday) ... Look, David's just subtly pointed out that he got the LP before the rest of us. Well done. >A mullet is called hockey-hairdo in swedish, if anyone's interested. Corduroys are called 'Manchesters' in Sweden. And perhaps someone could explain why I kept seeing the word 'Skrotum' at Swedish railway stations. Pedro Miller wrote >I'm going to have a look at Andy Dean's photo in a minute. >Then I will know what three people look like, Paul Choo Choo >Mitchell, Stephen Pantaloons. ...that's 'Seething' Trousers to you... >Tag I imagine as Dennis Pennis, who I've only ever seen in >magazines. Allegedly, I look like Francis Lee. Or the drummer from Kenickie. >I imagine Honey to be a bit like Worzel Gummidge >when he's got his reading head on, but that's cheating >because I've seen a picture. He speaks in a really thick >scouse accent and ends every sentence with "cracker, la" Cracker is dead, and I'll thank you not to mention it again. Jimmy was very upset. Peter Miller I imagine to look like Peter Stringfellow, with a tan that quite clearly came from a bottle, and more neckware than Mr. T over a shagpile chest wig. Northy I imagine looks like some sort of Greek God or something. And Genevieve, lovely lovely Genevieve, I imagine making me crepes in our little Swedish log cabin and looking like Francoise Hardy, while I pickle herrings for us tea. Oooops. Love Essex Boy Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.walker15 at xxx.net Sun Jan 18 17:56:53 1998 From: david.walker15 at xxx.net (David Walker) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 17:56:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sexy booooyeeeeeee References: <34C22C8E.78DF@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: <34C24265.34E1@virgin.net> Hello, It was written...... "Someone on here said they were listening to the album, how, if it isn't out yet?" Well, one of the very few perks about working in a record store is that you get the occasional promo item, and even more occasionally you get good ones. Well, we got an Air one which we stuck on one of our listening posts after playing it a few times. The Virgin store in Manchester will definitely have it on theirs. In fact, the album is officially released tomorrow (Monday) so you can go out and buy one ! Dig those groovy moogs! Cheers, Tintin -- David Walker The Walker Homepage And Guide To Bolton: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/ Got A Paul Weller link ? Need A Paul Weller link ? Check.... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/links.html (Unfinished version now up and running) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Mon Jan 19 04:37:18 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 98 20:37:18 PST Subject: Sinister: sinister promo Message-ID: so, i got the enclave version of sinister cause i'm an american. is it true that the jeepster version is mixed differently. i thought that sinister sounded really clean compared to the e.p.s. maybe i should go out and buy the import if this is true. someone tell me. -sycophantically yours -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Mon Jan 19 01:26:28 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:26:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: NB&SC- longpigs In-Reply-To: <199801181852.NAA21217@Vector.inexpress.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 18 Jan 1998 blink at inexpress.net wrote: > Well,I think it's secret....it's not listed as a track....but if you leave > The Sun Is Often Out (little cutie fact here: Simon Stafford picked that > title!) a song that is at very veyr low volume will come on...and it's > kinda like a lovely lullaby with Crispin Hunt singing and watching you as > you sleep singing 'but one of these days,you're sure to be gone..so I'll > have to carry on without you' Ohh! *sniff sniff* lil' baby doll! > Anyways...it's good enough to be put on the album as a real track...but i love this song! its the 4th track on the 'on and on' single..i was hoping to that they would play it when i saw them n concert, but no..it wasnt to be..i saw them with treble charger and the dandy warhols and they were by far the best of the bill..could also be because i fell asleep during the dandy's set.. roberta ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Jan 16 17:32:15 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 17:32:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: See ya Message-ID: <01bd22a4$afa97060$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Have a good weekend people, I'm off to the pub. Byee. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paulf at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 09:30:25 1998 From: paulf at xxx.uk (Paul Forsyth) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:30:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Air'heads Message-ID: <34C31D31.7B8@scs.leeds.ac.uk> Hiya, I'm a bit puzzled about Air as on Saturday I finally realised the song I liked on the radio was from Air: 2+2 = *click*. So I went along to Polar Bear in Leeds and bought the album, so I guess it must have been out last week, in the UK at least. And what an album it is. Utterly gorgeous. Buy it! My album of the year so far. Until the next B&S I'm sure! Paul ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 09:39:54 1998 From: M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk (M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 09:39:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: Go-Betweens Message-ID: <9800198852.AA885232466@ccgw4.lse.ac.uk> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Mon Jan 19 10:11:05 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:11:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Belle And Sebastian Screen Saver Message-ID: <199801191005.KAA06389@pop3.hiway.co.uk> >HoneyPaul - for your records - it took about half an hour to download - >thank God work were paying. I hope the Edinburgh servers haven't >crumpled under the demand. It only took me about 3 mins cause we have an ISDN or some shit. I'll try it when I get home, cause I'm still using win3.1 at work. Any chance of a 16-bit version, chris? John. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 09:58:50 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 09:58:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Double or Drop Message-ID: <01bd24c0$d77287d0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Would someone be kind enough to describe Future Pilot? They >seem to be so widely disliked that I'm quite curious now. > >Peter I actually thought they were OK, at the start it was ambient sounding, in a kind of a way like stuff from Eno's "Music for Films". They suddenly become dead beaty though (at exactly the point Chris tells me that the last time he's seen them they were "more beaty"), and the comparisons I could think of were still Eno, and even Roxy, kind of just cause there was a saxaphone going off all the time. These were as close a comparison as I could come to, but I certainly didn't think they were shit. Also... I lived in Falkirk for years, and I'm not very hard, indeed I wouldn't say it's a particularly "hard" place, strange the reputation places get! Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 10:09:56 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:09:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Leeds Leeds Leeds Message-ID: <01bd24c2$64ace630$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Hiya Sinistereans > >Anyone going down to see ChaChaCohen at Park Royal Hotel in LEEDS on the >23rd JAN. Tunic will be supporting them. Any idea where is the location >of this hotel and where can I purchase the tickets? > >HAs anyone heard of Tunic before? What style of music do they play? > >Hmm.... wonder whether David Gedge will be popping in? I've got a couple of friends in Tunic, as they used to go to Edinburgh Uni (at least two of them anyway). Strange you should say that, but David Gedge loves them, so he may be there. I'm not particularly convinved though, they're really contrived - apart from a couple of songs Tanya's written (Also Ran, and Get in Lane), that's not to say that you won't like them, just that they're not really my cup of tea really... And believe it or not, it was them I went with the first time I saw Belle and Sebastian, so... PRAISE THE LORD! There's a CONNECTION! Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 10:13:55 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:13:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Air Message-ID: <01bd24c2$f301f8d0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> There's been some Air stuff out for a while, for people interested, "Modulor" was released as a single on Mo' Wax about a year ago (although it appears, at least as far as I could see, only to be on 12"), and it's completely brilliant. If you have trouble finding it on 12", it's on the first of the two Headz 2 compilations as well. I'm told there was another single after this too, but I'm fucked if I heard anything about it. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paulf at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 10:23:42 1998 From: paulf at xxx.uk (Paul Forsyth) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:23:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Gig pics on a web-site near you... Message-ID: <34C329AE.7621@scs.leeds.ac.uk> Hiya, My post earlier about Air wasn't exactly B&S content so I'll make up with this one. Whilst I was at the concerts in Manchester I took one or two pics, and I've stuck them together for a web-site. Stuart Gardiner gave me his pics so I've put both his and my own on-line. The URL is: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/home/pleasure/creations/photos/bs97/ The site is really a personal account of my weekend, as other B&S sites do more than enough justice to the band! Some of the pages are quite intensive for loading so beware. Many of the pictures are thumbnails, meaning that by clicking on them you see the full size pic. If you have any problems please email me. If the page looks all bizarre check that you screen can handle 16-bit colours - on 8-bit (256 colours) it does look odd. Enjoy! Paul ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Jan 19 10:30:09 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:30:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Gig pics on a web-site near you... In-Reply-To: <34C329AE.7621@scs.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Paul Forsyth wrote: > Whilst I was at the concerts in Manchester I took one or two pics, and > I've stuck them together for a web-site. Stuart Gardiner gave me his > pics so I've put both his and my own on-line. > > The URL is: > > http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/home/pleasure/creations/photos/bs97/ This is a CRACKER of a site - GO AND LOOK! Paul you are a hero - linking from my site now. And thank god he didn't get any photos of me - I don't think. I want to start a baby pics site of people on the list. It's all very serious and freudian but I can't explain why erm... just now. Please send me your baby pictures - if I get more than three I will put them up on the WWW page. I can't wait to see Keith with a baby bottle of Laphroaig. Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Mon Jan 19 10:25:24 1998 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:25:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: our man in york.... Message-ID: <01BD24C4.8E98A400@manray.impressions-gallery.com> Northy wrote: >York University? > >I am visiting soon to see if I like it better than Bangor (I doubt it) >I am doing shitty A level mocks at the moment. > >BTW. There is a huge B&S fan at York (might be you for all I know) >who has a copy of Tigermilk and once turned down =A3150 for it!! > >At the moment I would be prepared to pay =A3200 and nothing more. I fear I might be that fan in york (although I'd love to hear that there is someone else in York that owns a copy of tigermilk...) Me & my Girlfriend have a vinyl copy each (I apologise for repeating this fact, as I know it can be a sore point being so smug...) and all the 12" and 7" since then, but no copies of any radio sessions. Anyone out there like to do a tape swap? (although I imagine everyone that copies radio programmes is enough of a fan to have a copy of tigermilk already...) I know there are other B&S fans in York, but only 'cos I've seen their names on the list (I've only been in York a year, after living in glasgow and Brighton), but Northy, if you're in town, I work as Production Manager in a photography gallery called Impressions. It has an ace bookshop, cafe and internet bit, so pop in and ask for matt locke (I'm in all week, and very occassionally at weekends, although I try not to be...) BTW, I've just got a new job, as Artistic Director of a new Digital Gallery and Production Facility opening in Huddersfield (i only heard on Saturday, so I'm preeetty stoked !) so I'll be moving, probably to leeds, in summer (and therefore to a new e-mail address). So if you're coming northy, make it soon!!! "Yaz" wrote: >WARNING: A badly dressed irish male (otherwise known as Mr. >Sean-I'm-piss'funny-really-Hughes) will be seen in the bar area tonight >trying to look cool. Also in the bar area tonight will be Lawrence, the >head of Domino, who according to Mr. Hughes, can easily be spotted by the >fact that he resembles "a staid Julian Clary". By twin bruvver used to be in a band called 'crescent' who were signed ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9614139b at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 10:39:11 1998 From: 9614139b at xxx.uk (Kevin Burke) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:39:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: hello, i'm new to these parts and was wondering if anyone out there could provide me with a tape of tigermilk.i can can promise "swiss tony" style treatment to anyone who can oblige; fine wines, belgian chocs, you name it, yours kevin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mdp21 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 10:43:00 1998 From: mdp21 at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:43:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Air In-Reply-To: <01bd24c2$f301f8d0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > There's been some Air stuff out for a while, for people interested, > "Modulor" was released as a single on Mo' Wax about a year ago (although it > appears, at least as far as I could see, only to be on 12"), and it's > completely brilliant. If you have trouble finding it on 12", it's on the > first of the two Headz 2 compilations as well. I'm told there was another > single after this too, but I'm fucked if I heard anything about it. > > Keith. > I saw Modulor on CD in HMV Cambridge just ten minutes ago. Three mixes I believe. I didn't buy it! Looks like I might spend my Christmas record tokens on the LP though... Cheers, Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 10:44:01 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 10:44:01 GMT Subject: Sinister: More Air please... Message-ID: <199801191044.KAA20015@brookes.ac.uk> Keith Watson wrote: There's been some Air stuff out for a while, for people interested, "Modulor" was released as a single on Mo' Wax about a year ago (although it appears, at least as far as I could see, only to be on 12"), and it's completely brilliant. If you have trouble finding it on 12", it's on the first of the two Headz 2 compilations as well. I'm told there was another single after this too, but I'm fucked if I heard anything about it. The track is called "Casanova 70", and it's more like an album. It goes on for about 40-50 minutes, and is superb. I think it was released early last year. My brother taped it for me in the summer, and I only just got hold of a vinyl copy 2 weeks ago. If you see it, buy it. It really is excellent. I'm off to get Moon Safari after work, so there !! Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 11:05:09 1998 From: M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk (M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 11:05:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: Air Message-ID: <9800198852.AA885238190@ccgw4.lse.ac.uk> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 11:23:00 1998 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (Simon Collins) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:23:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: Terry Callier Message-ID: Terry Callier was on a couple of the B-sides of the last Beth Orton single, Best Bit e.p., WHich was absolutely gorgeous ( why haven't more people mentioned her on this list ?) That's all i know, except that he was around in the 60s or 70s and has a great voice. When is he playing in Aberdeen? I live there myself during the holidays, and would quite like to see him. I bet it's the Lemon Tree isn't it? sorry I don't know more Simon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Mon Jan 19 11:26:13 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:26:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Belle And Sebastian Screen Saver/Falkirk Message-ID: >>It only took me about 3 mins cause we have an ISDN or some shit. I'll try >>it when I get home, cause I'm still using win3.1 at work. Any chance of a >>16-bit version, chris? Possibly. I'll have a look at lunchtime over a big softee. I'm having lots of ideas for the sequel. My imagination is running riot. I'm the Johnny Mathis of Screen Saving. As for Falkirk, my last romatic liason was with a lady from Bainsford, Falkirk. She's as hard as nails. Every sentence has "fuck" and "ye ken" in it, ken. Unfortunately I scorned her and can never return as I will recieve a severe beating from her nutter friends, ye ken. That is all. mr c "an apparition quipped from deep inside a crypt, ring rrrrrentaghost" > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gar at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 11:35:02 1998 From: gar at xxx.uk (Gordon A Rogers) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 11:35:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Terry Callier In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, Simon Collins wrote: > > > Terry Callier was on a couple of the B-sides of the last Beth Orton single, Best Bit e.p., WHich > was absolutely gorgeous ( why haven't more people mentioned her on this list ?) That's all i > know, except that he was around in the 60s or 70s and has a great voice. > When is he playing in Aberdeen? I live there myself during the holidays, and would quite like to > see him. I bet it's the Lemon Tree isn't it? > > sorry I don't know more > > Simon. > > > He's Playing at the Lemon Tree on the last Saturday in January as part of a club called Lifestyle (jazz, funk and some old skool stuff). If you're thinking about going give me a shout. - Gordon _________________________________ Gordon Rogers Room 7 Flat DF St Peter Street Aberdeen AB24 3HU email : gar at csd.abdn.ac.uk phone : (01224) 637 430 "You Must Think First Before You Move" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paulf at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 12:06:42 1998 From: paulf at xxx.uk (Paul Forsyth) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:06:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Terry Callier Message-ID: <34C341D2.5E3D@scs.leeds.ac.uk> They're playing in Leeds on 7th Feb. I've never heard of them before, what are they like? The venue they are playing at is quite bluesy/jazzy/souly - is this their style? Cheers, Paul ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jo.attree at xxx.com Mon Jan 19 12:06:00 1998 From: jo.attree at xxx.com (jo.attree at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:06:00 +0000 Subject: fwd: Re: Sinister: Levis ad (no B&S content) In-Reply-To: <1FEABF34013DCC7E> Message-ID: <98Jan19.115021gmt.36869@sjbgate.sjberwin.com> if youre in london, you can get the album on CD for �4.50 at selectadisc in berwick st. its all in the same style, im not sure if thats a good thing or not. jo ------------- Original Text >From steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk (steve genge), on 01/10/98 02:00: To: j.stuart at efp.com (John Stuart), sinister at majordomo.net > Mr Dean wrote: > >and the comemrcial as well, someone mentioned, the levis > >white tab jeans commercial with the herse. cool. so cool > >that i went and tried a pair on (trousers were so much > >better in the 60s, i see cliff richards on that bus and...). > >button fly though. 8( oh, and they mentioned it was the > >lilys providing the music. well, my american, er, friend > >who's good at these things told me she thought it was the > >apples in stereo so... > > I really like this song too, but it's definitely by The Lilys. Still don't > know the title though. I guess it's 'Nanny in Manhattan', but I'm probably > wrong. Anybody know if the singles out yet? > It's released in Feb on Che through WEA & will hopefully be a big hit. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pym0491b at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 12:08:21 1998 From: pym0491b at xxx.uk (Seymour Stein) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:08:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: air Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980119120821.0069da58@194.238.147.3> If you want lotsa air one should get PREMIERS SYMPTOMES, their singles compilation with the best cover on 12 that I've seen for ages. Its got Modulor, Casanova 70 and le soleil est pres de moi. yummy. x will look out...CALYPSO CUPS...in your area February 1998 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sami.keinanen at xxx.fi Mon Jan 19 12:20:14 1998 From: sami.keinanen at xxx.fi (Sami Keinanen) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:20:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: BRIAN! EDINBURGH! Message-ID: <01bd24d4$98b94fb0$4e739cc3@opetus04.tk-opisto.fi> LOST YOUR EMAIL, WRITE ME! sami.keinanen at tk-opisto.fi ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Mon Jan 19 12:34:58 1998 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:34:58 GMT Subject: Sinister: nish B&S Message-ID: <4D5206F3192@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> One of you lot, can't remember who, has gone and rendered my day useless. How am i supposed to do my Ulster essay when I'm walking round the library singing "Shut up, and sleep with me, shut up, uh-huh, and sleep with me", ad infinitum? It makes me pine for Simon Price. Hello to Tag, who does indeed look like X from kenickie, but, luckily, doesn't talk like Franny Lee. Did y'all know that the real Cracker off brookie actually belongs to Mo who works in the chippy? The reason they killed it off was that it kept puking in the Green Room, so they thought they'd give it a dignified exit, rather than have it suddenly disappear/run away to Perth a la Bouncer/Scott and Charlene. I wonder, did Katrina head North to escape the constant influx of soap characters coming to live in her town? Will any of this make sense to international listees/ people who have lives outside of tee-vee? Why have you read to the bottom of this mail? Lord knows, Smilin' Joe Fission ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Mon Jan 19 12:55:34 1998 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 12:55:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: our man in york Message-ID: <01BD24D9.896BF9E0@manray.impressions-gallery.com> Northy wrote: >York University? > >I am visiting soon to see if I like it better than Bangor (I doubt it) >I am doing shitty A level mocks at the moment. > >BTW. There is a huge B&S fan at York (might be you for all I know) >who has a copy of Tigermilk and once turned down =A3150 for it!! > >At the moment I would be prepared to pay =A3200 and nothing more. I fear I might be that fan in york (although I'd love to hear that there is someone else in York that owns a copy of tigermilk...) Me & my Girlfriend have a vinyl copy each (I apologise for repeating this fact, as I know it can be a sore point being so smug...) and all the 12" and 7" since then, but no copies of any radio sessions. Anyone out there like to do a tape swap? (although I imagine everyone that copies radio programmes is enough of a fan to have a copy of tigermilk already...) I know there are other B&S fans in York, but only 'cos I've seen their names on the list (I've only been in York a year, after living in glasgow and Brighton), but Northy, if you're in town, I work as Production Manager in a photography gallery called Impressions. It has an ace bookshop, cafe and internet bit, so pop in and ask for matt locke (I'm in all week, and very occassionally at weekends, although I try not to be...) BTW, I've just got a new job, as Artistic Director of a new Digital Gallery and Production Facility opening in Huddersfield (i only heard on Saturday, so I'm preeetty stoked !) so I'll be moving, probably to leeds, in summer (and therefore to a new e-mail address). So if you're coming northy, make it soon!!! "Yaz" wrote: >WARNING: A badly dressed irish male (otherwise known as Mr. >Sean-I'm-piss'funny-really-Hughes) will be seen in the bar area tonight >trying to look cool. Also in the bar area tonight will be Lawrence, the >head of Domino, who according to Mr. Hughes, can easily be spotted by the >fact that he resembles "a staid Julian Clary". By twin bruvver used to be in a band called 'crescent' who were signed ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the.spod at xxx.com Mon Jan 19 14:08:59 1998 From: the.spod at xxx.com (Daniel Smith) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:08:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: air (no b&s sorry) Message-ID: <01bd24e3$daeec860$4a1642c2@mbge5dss.mcc.ac.uk> here's a little titbit to get you air fans going :)I f you go to http://www.streamland.com this week you can see the world premiere of the Air "Sexy Boy" video... that is if you have the right plugins TheSpod -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 14:36:58 1998 From: M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk (M.CLARK2 at xxx.uk) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 14:36:58 GMT Subject: Sinister: Go-Betweens (again, sorry) Message-ID: <9800198852.AA885250393@ccgw4.lse.ac.uk> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From james at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 14:57:18 1998 From: james at xxx.uk (James Morton) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:57:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: References: Message-ID: <34C369CE.306A4060@jmorton.demon.co.uk> Kevin Burke wrote: > hello, > i'm new to these parts and was wondering if anyone out there could provide > me with a tape of tigermilk.i can can promise "swiss tony" style treatment > to anyone who can oblige; fine wines, belgian chocs, you name it, > yours > kevin I would also love a copy, if possible. I'm not sure about fine wines andchoccy, but I would be willing to offer trades/cash/my undying friendship (not necessarily a desirable thing). On other lists I've been on there have been various compilations of "rarities" floating around - has anyone put something like that together on Sinister? James P.S. I will of course still buy the real thing the very second it appears in the shops, if and when it's re-released. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From vegus at xxx.no Mon Jan 19 16:15:58 1998 From: vegus at xxx.no (Stein Vegusdal) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 17:15:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: (no b&s)More Air Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980119171558.00934a20@mail.a.sol.no> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1505 bytes Desc: not available URL: From keith at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 16:26:06 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:26:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Air Message-ID: <01bd24f6$f153aef0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Right we are then, the Air record's bloody brilliant, go out and buy it now! Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 14:07:02 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:07:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Cottage Cheese / Voodoo. Message-ID: <01BD24E3.84892B00@pc07628> Genevieve wrote : Subject: Sinister: sleepy sleepy sleepy >Oh dear lovelys, I feel anything but lovely, but thanks all the same. > Hello..forgive me please if this poast is ummmmm..stupid? Poast ? Is this a cross between a letter and a lightly cooked slice of bread ? Which reminds me, I was reading the daily mirror (for US counterparts, that's the Beano for adults) the other day and there was one of those humorous little snippets about a postman who opened his postbox, and out fell a varnished piece of toast with an address and a stamp on it. So if any of you are tempted to move to England, this is the kind of twattish nonsense we do for kicks. >I'm so tired! It was a sleepover and my friends wouldn't let me sleep!and isn't >it weird,when you go to sleep..and you wake up in a different place and you >don't remember moving there?they watch a lot of videos...no no Century of >Fakers vid...i actually saw cornershop..so now I know all about that >'brimfull of asha' they didn't sound like i thought they would...very bounce >bounce....but then it was all James Spader movies..'Dreamlover' >hmmmmm...what can I say about it?And how come James Spader is always >the stud mouffin in movies..... I feel a nervous breakdown coming on. >Belle and Sebastian dreams...I have not have one yet..(I don't think so..I >usually can't remember them unless they're those good ones where I end up >kissing the dreamboy in the end) >..Mmmm,,hey maybe tonight I will dream of them!I have had a nice pop star >dream just a little while ago though..a balloon carried me away to some >lovely sand dunes where the Longpigs just HAPPENED to be (convienantly) >louging about. I think your just trying to wind me up ! > it was chilly today! Hungry... so we went to the depanneur ..just down >the road..for those noodles..alfredo..when we decided we should go for a >drive,we were thinking how nice it would be to just drive off to >Montreal..but we went to the city instead..damnnn.. I should just drive off >somewhere some day (if I had my license) >.too bad England is across the ocean!... Perhaps you could cadge a lift over with Richard Branson next time he attempts his balloon dooberry and float across to Bonnie Scotland and meet the dreamboy himself....on second thoughts you'll probably be forced to ditch mid-atlantic. >oh dears..I guess I better go then,I'm sleepy sleepy..and not making much >sense >sweet dreams 'n kisses under warm blankets! >xoxoxo Genevieve Help !?!?!?!?!?! Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. (William Blake). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jfrankel at xxx.net Mon Jan 19 18:06:11 1998 From: jfrankel at xxx.net (Jarrett Frankel) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 13:06:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Air/IYFS Vinyl/Sessions W. 54th Set List? Message-ID: Hello all: For more info on the band who have made the album to top in 1998, http://www.caroline.com have a wonderful Air site, complete with a discography. Go there, you can even listen to the entire album(Moon Safari) as well as selected early singles. Dig those groovy graphics, too! I also must sing the praises of the _Premieres Symptomes_ EP! An amazing little piece of plastic! I stumbled across a promo of it at work back in November (basically took it because of the artwork, I hadn't heard of them before["i only buy a book for the way it looks"]) and subsequently fell under its super-hypnotic spell. One of those records that possesses its own unique feeling, a record that makes you actually *feel* something, something no other record makes you feel. I played it in my car quite literally everyday for two weeks on my drive to and from work(one way=almost exactly the length of the EP). Quite beautiful, especially those last two tracks. Seek it out. Does there really exist a 40 minute version of Casanova 70?!? Anyone with info on how to get this in the States, please e-mail me privately. Also, anyone who might be as obsessed with this band as I am might want to check out the Source Lab series of CD compilations, particularly Vol. 3, which has an unreleased song called "Cosmic Bird", a beautiful collaboration with Jean Jacques Perrey(who they also collaborated with on Moon Safari's stunning "Remember"). Volumes 1 & 2 contain songs found later on the PS EP. And if you're really a nutter you might want to pick up the Ettiene de Crecy disc, "Super Discount", which contains one Air tune remixed by EDC. *On the B&S front, any DC area listers interested in owning a vinyl version of IYFS should get in touch with Vinyl Ink in Silver Spring, MD. I bought one of the two copies they had in stock yesterday. It's gorgeous. Hurry. Bring $19 and enough change for tax. One last thing: does anyone have a setlist for B&S's Sessions performance? Yes, I was in attendance for this, but as they played almost exclusively either new songs or songs off of Tigermilk(which I had not heard at that point), I'm a bit miffed as to what it was I witnessed. I do recall Mayfly cuz Stuart forgot the words, and also Judy... And if my retrroactive memory serves me right, I think they did Slow Graffitti(which he called Pendulum or something, maybe??!?). As you can tell, I'm a tad confused. Anyone who can clear it up with a setlist , I would be most appreciated! rendered, rainforested & rolexed: jarrett frankel jfrankel at intr.net ************************************************************** album of the week: 1/19/98 ~Air- Moon Safari ************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mct101 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 18:25:38 1998 From: mct101 at xxx.uk (Michael Terwey) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:25:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: our man in york.... Message-ID: me also. Simon Collins and myself are probably the other two yorkist refered to, although there are more, quieter types. Impressions gallery is a damn fine place, although the recent exebition on the facades of india was a bit poor, if you ask me. The only annoying thing is that the big photographic books in the shop are bound up in plastic so impoverished students cannot spend hours standing there reading them. I hear also the cake is good for PMT, but cannot confirm this. michael Northy wrote: >York University? > >I am visiting soon to see if I like it better than Bangor (I doubt it) >I am doing shitty A level mocks at the moment. > >BTW. There is a huge B&S fan at York (might be you for all I know) >who has a copy of Tigermilk and once turned down =A3150 for it!! > >At the moment I would be prepared to pay =A3200 and nothing more. I fear I might be that fan in york (although I'd love to hear that there is someone else in York that owns a copy of tigermilk...) Me & my Girlfriend have a vinyl copy each (I apologise for repeating this fact, as I know it can be a sore point being so smug...) and all the 12" and 7" since then, but no copies of any radio sessions. Anyone out there like to do a tape swap? (although I imagine everyone that copies radio programmes is enough of a fan to have a copy of tigermilk already...) I know there are other B&S fans in York, but only 'cos I've seen their names on the list (I've only been in York a year, after living in glasgow and Brighton), but Northy, if you're in town, I work as Production Manager in a photography gallery called Impressions. It has an ace bookshop, cafe and internet bit, so pop in and ask for matt locke (I'm in all week, and very occassionally at weekends, although I try not to be...) BTW, I've just got a new job, as Artistic Director of a new Digital Gallery and Production Facility opening in Huddersfield (i only heard on Saturday, so I'm preeetty stoked !) so I'll be moving, probably to leeds, in summer (and therefore to a new e-mail address). So if you're coming northy, make it soon!!! "Yaz" wrote: >WARNING: A badly dressed irish male (otherwise known as Mr. >Sean-I'm-piss'funny-really-Hughes) will be seen in the bar area tonight >trying to look cool. Also in the bar area tonight will be Lawrence, the >head of Domino, who according to Mr. Hughes, can easily be spotted by the >fact that he resembles "a staid Julian Clary". By twin bruvver used to be in a band called 'crescent' who were signed ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 18:45:56 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:45:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sad git... References: <01BD241F.DA949A80@neurometrix4.neurometrix.com> Message-ID: <34C39F64.8B49C640@eurobell.co.uk> Matthew A. Neimark wrote: > I think that the Enclave's sinister was mixed > differently. ha ha. wnat to hear a really sad story? i got a trade of the enclave cd for the jeepster vinyl abd put it on my shelf, still in it's wrapping :-) i just wanted it to look pristine, i dunno why. actually i do know why: i'm a sad git who sputs bollocks... so now i have to go unwrap it and listen for this different mixing thing. i bet i don't hear any difference, or if i say i do katrina will write and say it was exactly the same. ho hum. keep the faith, dudes. duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at eurobell.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 18:51:54 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:51:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: air References: <3.0.3.32.19980119120821.0069da58@194.238.147.3> Message-ID: <34C3A0C9.3EBE3C41@eurobell.co.uk> Seymour Stein wrote: > If you want lotsa air one should get PREMIERS > SYMPTOMES, their singles > compilation with the best cover on 12 that I've > seen for ages. > > Its got Modulor, Casanova 70 and le soleil est > pres de moi. yummy. Air are cool. Modulor was one of my favourite singles of... um 1997? i lose track of time. After all the talk on the list i played it last night down the Living Room, so impressing my mate James from the band Appliance that he swiped it off me... it sounded bloody ace :-) No doubt something about Air coming soon to tangents just as soon as Dan gets his french pop piece written. respect. the duke > -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at eurobell.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Sun Jan 18 09:27:20 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 09:27:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: no b&s-- go betweens References: <199801172209.XAA07664@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <34C1CAF7.79A40CA3@eurobell.co.uk> > Furthermore, you may be very lucky in finding > any of the following at > reasonable prices ... "Lee Remick" 7", "People > say" 7", "I need two heads" > 7", you'll be lucky... if you find these and don;t have to fork out loads of cash i'll be surprised. > "The Able Label Singles" 12" (compiling the "Lee > Remick" and "People > say" 7"'s). easier to find... a great 12". > B&S content ? Fellow Sinister listee Tag is > pursueing the Robert Forster > look ... at least that's what I've been told > from reliable sources. §;^D > > "Strangely beautiful" beautifully strange. strangely natural, naturally strange. it all fitted. keep the faith. duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at eurobell.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Mon Jan 19 17:38:43 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:38:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: Sinister Food and Sexuality (non B&S) References: <34C250D8.25E6@ix.netcom.com> Message-ID: <34C38FA2.51C36428@colon.net.> Sam Khater wrote: > I saw movie that addressed food and sexuality a couple of > years ago. I > think it's called 'Like Water for Chocolate'. I think it > was a Spanish > or Mexican subtitled flick, very enjoyable. > > Sam > In which one of the characters says "this is a pleasure of the gods", a reference to both stuffing one's face and making whoopee. At the same time. Mexican. By the director who went on to make "A Walk in the Clouds" starring the lovely Keanu Reeves. I think. Which addresssed grape treading and sexuality. I haven't seen either of them, but I have seen "Boogie Nights" which addresses sexuality and sexuality. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Mon Jan 19 19:52:32 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 19:52:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: Photoshop Phantasies Message-ID: <980119195232.n0007632.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Having just discovered the joys of photoshop (get it virus-free at www.tucows.com) I have been busy fulfilling my popstar dreams by cutting, pasting and airbrushing and can now be seen in all sorts of compromising positions with Mark out of Ride (I've got the photos to prove it Katrina!). However, lets just stick to Belle and Sebastian for now (Trousers and Honey- not a word, I know you two can keep a secret). Firstly there's Richard doing the washing up at my kitchen sink, he looks well handy with a tea towel, but why is he wearing a skirt? He'd better get on and do it though, he's got piles!! Next, there's one of me lying on a beach in Barbados in my bikini, never knew I had such long legs, and whose is that tanned lithe body I'm rubbing suntan lotion all over? Oh! Look! Its Stuart Murdoch! How did that happen? Theres me getting off a train, with Stuart David waiting for me on the platform, I've come to visit him between the holidays, but why is he wearing my Dads trousers? He looks a bit porky too, all of a sudden. Oh, and there's me and Chris Geddes having dinner in a very posh restaurant, he really must see the specialist about those bosoms, maybe he can get the number off Keith. And Stevie, funny little Stevie..... what ARE you up to with that?.........&*%$?@+#!!! susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 19:04:02 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:04:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Its not unusUUUAAAAALLL! Message-ID: Heey! I can talk bollocks on the list too, I'm young and it is my right, to kinda sorta quote mark Hamil....anyway :-) My plan! We all had fun and games meeting up at Manchester oui? Do you want to meet up again! Because, guess which iconoclast is playing at the manchester Nynex... : TOM JONES! *sarah squeals iin joy!* I think it would make another perfect Belle & Sebastian trip, the style, the unique dancing moves, the showmanship, I'm teling you SM could take some tips from ol' Tom. I have no idea how much or when or how but I shall find out and let you know. Cos i *have* to go. Hmmm, wonder if anyone will actually pay attention to this? Oh well never mind. My cuddly fluffy teddy bear floppy dog loves me. Hmmm again. While we seem to be talking about record production of the albums, I think Tigermilk has been way better produced than Sinister, ho hum. I'm bored. Really I'm bored. Serious boredom. I should get a job. Thing is I live in the middle of nowhere with about 4 shops and getting a job in Preston/Blackpool depends on public trnsprt and half my money would go on bus fares. No-one hirs me cos i live out of he way...i loathe life. Well, you're all looking too happy anyway. I'm going to go and see Sppiceworld soon. That is if I'm allowed out of the house... Oh I've really depresed myself , and maybe you now. sorry. well, that was a rapid swing through Srahs` emotions. Pathetic aren't they? oooh Geniveveveveveve come and cheer everyone up :-) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "It's not unusual to be loooved by anyone.." --Tom Jones, the MAN! blowing his sexual bugle in the orchestra of luuurve! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinystar at xxx.com Mon Jan 19 19:41:50 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:41:50 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Tiramisu and other fetishes Message-ID: >has anyone read any Isabelle Allende? as she's due to release a book about >the indistinguishable line between the eroticism of good food and sexuality, >and i'd quite like to know what her past books are like and am too lazy to >read. I believe Isabelle has 5 or 6 books out now, the easiest to read if you are quite lazy is 'The Stories Of Eva Luna', it's a collection of short stories as told by a woman, Eva, to her lover, Rolf Carle. I think all her books except one have a Peruvian setting, they are all very dense to read, like you feel quite strongly about the characters. After 'The Stories of Eva Luna', read 'Eva Luna', which is the story about the woman. But I've read 4 of her books, and they're all excellent. There is a lot of eroticism in Allende's books, so I'm all excited about this new book about food + sex. If you see the way she writes, you know this new book will be perfect. truly, jessica ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Mon Jan 19 20:48:27 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (The Army of Wee Daves) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:48:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Sinister Food and Sexuality (non B&S) In-Reply-To: <34C38FA2.51C36428@colon.net.> Message-ID: On Mon, 19 Jan 1998, PM - AU wrote: > Sam Khater wrote: > > > I saw movie that addressed food and sexuality a couple of > > years ago. I > > think it's called 'Like Water for Chocolate'. I think it > > was a Spanish > > or Mexican subtitled flick, very enjoyable. > > In which one of the characters says "this is a pleasure of > the gods", a reference to both stuffing one's face and > making whoopee. At the same time. Don't know if this is quite the same thing, but a friend of mine[1] today showed me http://www.messyfun.com Rod. [1] And I *do* mean a friend of mine. Not "a friend of mine..." Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Wimbledown: n. The fuzz on tennis balls ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 10:15:48 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:15:48 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Matador Press Release Message-ID: *FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE* January 20, 1998 BELLE AND SEBASTIAN SIGN TO MATADOR/CAPITOL Followup to critically-acclaimed If You're Feeling Sinister to be released this spring. Scottish band Belle and Sebastian , whose "If You're Feeling Sinister LP was released last year by the Enclave label, have just signed a deal with Matador/Capitol in the US (the upcoming album will be released by the Jeepster label in the UK, and Virgin in Europe) Despite a virtual moratoriumon interviews, no band photos, and sporadic live shows, If You're Feeling Sinister was one of the most acclaimed albums of 1997, showing up on innumerable best-of-year lists. Belle and Sebastian have ammassed a devoted following as well. In the UK, their Radio one Sessions were voted by listeners as among their favourites of the year, along side bands like The Verve and Radiohead. Their recent singles have been UK chart hits, despite being on a relatively small indie label. Here in the US, their only live shows--two nights in a former temple in New York City--sold out far in advance. There are numberous web sites and an internet mailing list (ed: hey that's us!!) devoted to the band, and an Official Belle and Sebastian Fan Club. (ed: hey! that's David and Katrina!) Belle and Sebastian's music is a soulful take on folk-pop, with subtle infusions of cello, trumpet, piano, and other traditional orchestral elements, and wry, almost perverse lyrics. It brings to mind such classic music as Nick Drake, Donovan, and Motown, as well as more recent heros like The Smiths, the Go-Betweens, and felt though their unique soundrenders such comparisons rather flimsy. The as-yet-untitled follow-up to If You're Feeling Sinister will be released this Spring, to be followed in the fall by a compilation of three EPs previously unavailable in the US. The band will be returning to the US in 1998 for select live dates. Both Matador and Capitol were instrumental in the signing. Capitol CEO Gary Gersh says "Belle and Sebastian are one of the most exciting bands to come along in years." As a Matador/Capitol co-release, Belle and Sebastian will be joining such Matador bands as Pavement, Jon Spencer Blues Explosion, and Liz Phair in this fruitful relationship. ### ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Moffeaton at xxx.com Mon Jan 19 21:56:28 1998 From: Moffeaton at xxx.com (Moff eaton) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:56:28 EST Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: <100d9fe2.34c3cc11@aol.com> Hello. Since my discovery of B & S late '97, I have been able to listen to nothing else. Pulp's "help the aged" cd, which was purchased the same day, is gathering dust, and is probably a bit resentful, but I cannot help it. Not since a grey day in 1986, when a mopey high schooler (me) discovered the Smiths have i been so taken with a band. That's a damn long time to wait too. My problem is this: I live in Annapolis Maryland USA, not exactly the mecca for B & S. I have ordered the cd singles, the t-shirts, the badge, etc... but have not been able to find Tigermilk (or any other side projects). Any chance of getting someone to copy this material onto dat for me? I will also be content with cassette, it's just that i will burn a cd of this stuff for use in my stereo. I have $$, but would prefer a trade, as it is more satisfying and fun. Or, if anyone knows how i may purchase these items i would of course do so, but it seems as though it's a bit hard, even when you live where most of you live.... My trade list goes on and on, but to whet an appetite, i tape (dat) all the concerts i go to, some of these have been: Tori Amos, Lush, Squirrel Nut Zippers, Pulp, Magnetic Fields, Morrissey, the Rentals (acoustic), Weezer, the Make*up, Ben Lee, Danielle Howle, etc... As for cd's and vinyl, I have complete discographies (including all avaliable demos and historically important or fun concerts) by: Tori Amos, Pixies/ Amps/ Breeders, Smiths, Morrissey, the Cure (by far my most exhaustive collection), Kate Bush, Cranes, Cocteau Twins, Galaxie 500, the Wedding Present, P J Harvey (including #666 of the dry demos cd... spooky!), Lush, Magnetic Fields/ Future Bible Heroes/ Gothic Archies, Pulp, Rentals, Unrest, Bettie Serveert, etc.... Anyone want to trade? thanks, jason ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From muellerj at xxx.edu Mon Jan 19 22:50:23 1998 From: muellerj at xxx.edu (Telepathic Traffic) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 15:50:23 -0700 (MST) Subject: Sinister: Matador Press Release In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just this moment spoke w/ someone at Capital. He put forth this tenative schedule for B&S releases: A new release most likely in April on Matador/Capital a re-release of Sinister and most likely a compilation that compiles the 3 singles. Yet...there is NO talk of a Tigermilk re-release. Of course this is all tentative and subject to change. *&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& & another piece of drama mind: * *&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*&*& "peanut butter toast and american bandstand teach me how to cook teach me how to dance" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elzachar at xxx.no Mon Jan 19 23:15:55 1998 From: elzachar at xxx.no (Elisabeth Zachariassen) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:15:55 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: SINISTER: AIR Message-ID: <199801192315.AAA23820@online.no> Who is working for Virgin ? (I suspect Keith...) Or is the Air album really that good? It's working though, I chaught myself thinking that I have to go and check it out tomorrow! Elisabeth Z ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 00:37:00 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 16:37:00 -0800 Subject: Sinister: desperate plea for help (no belle content but please help anyway) Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF030910B1@amerwksnt01.xil.com> hello hello I'm visiting london all by myself very very soon and having never been there ever before have no idea where to go or what to do to satiate my pop culture shopping fix!! Anybody willing to help, please e-mail me with your recommendations for music stores and clubs I should go to.... OH!!! also any good gigs upcoming? umm I know about Catatonia, but anything else?!? will be in town from the 29th through the 9th of Feb... please help... pretty pretty please... I'm here, on my knees BEGGING... ruining these nice DKNY nylons... thanks in advance! Cheers, Tara ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nrbqlover at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 00:39:05 1998 From: Nrbqlover at xxx.com (Nrbqlover) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 19:39:05 EST Subject: Sinister: Matador Press Release Message-ID: <62400292.34c3f22c@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-19 17:59:23 EST, Telepathic Traffic writes: << I just this moment spoke w/ someone at Capital. He put forth this tenative schedule for B&S releases: A new release most likely in April on Matador/Capital a re-release of Sinister and most likely a compilation that compiles the 3 singles. Yet...there is NO talk of a Tigermilk re-release. Of course this is all tentative and subject to change. >> this brings up a good point. Jenny Toomey in her article on the band in Puncture magazine states that the masters for TigerMilk were destroyed about the 1000 copy pressing. How 'bout it Fanclub folk, is this true? clem lane nrbqlover at aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MSRX5SJJ at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 18:32:41 1998 From: MSRX5SJJ at xxx.uk (Simon Jackson) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:32:41 BST Subject: Sinister: spotting B&S Message-ID: <390BB8B2B9F@fs1.ec.man.ac.uk> Aaaargh! Just got back after Xmas and recieved mucho abuse from computer boffin-type-guy for filling up the server. 721 messages! Everyone has been busy! Anyway must remember to unsubscribe next time I went to the Sunday night concert, and as a result my devotion is greater than ever. But that's not the real reason for my missive, oh no...... At the risk of sounding like a celebrity whore I have a tale to tell. Yes, after the concerday) me and my girlfriend were at a loss about how to fill our time. For some reason we went to Blackpool, even thougknew everything was shut. I had quite a good time walking on the beach in case you were wondering, but that's not the point. No. On the way back to the train station I spotted a group of people who I thought looked familiar (you know what's coming don't ya'). Lo' and behold it was B&S themselves. This I found incredibly surreal. To be honest they didn't look to be enjoying themselves in the tat capital of the North, but what do you expect (Stevie looked particularly miserable under his umbrella). I didn't approach them (as I'm what's know as a bit lily-livered when it comes to things like people) but I somehow feel a little closer to them in spirit, as I too shared that wet, grey day in Blackpool. Really though it does seem a little strange that they chose to visit, it's a very touristy thing to do. I hope they don't think that all of Lancashire's like that. I'd hate to think that my native county will forever be known in the minds of B&S as the land of grimy Manchester where you get stuff nicked and Blackpool, which smells of old grannies. Still what can you do eh? Bye for now, Simon J. P.S. I shall not inflict my tails of spotting Ian Brown in Manchester and running after him like a buffoon. I do have some dignity. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 09:30:25 1998 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:30:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Terry Callier (again...) Message-ID: <01BD2586.0E3A7780@manray.impressions-gallery.com> sorry if this is a little late (like many people who get the digest, I find myself losing the 'thread' occassionally) I put up a post about Terry Callier a few months back and offered to make compilation tapes of some of his classic 60's-70's stuff (BGP have released a cracking early 60's jazz/folk album that first appeared on prestige) There does seem to be a healthy tinge of classic/northern soul to the tastes of you sinisterines... I would still offer to make tapes for those who are thinking of going to the gig (I've seen him play twice and he's bloody marvellous), or those that go to the gig and are desperate to hear some more...) BTW, could (el tel) PM and T hopkins mail me their addresses, as I promised them tapes and have nowhere to send them to... tar-tar matlockxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 09:44:24 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:44:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Beth Orton Message-ID: <01BD2588.0173FB00@pc07628> >Subject: Re: Sinister: Terry Callier >Terry Callier was on a couple of the B-sides of the last Beth Orton >single, Best Bit e.p., WHich >was absolutely gorgeous ( why haven't more people mentioned her on >this list ?) Oh yes oh yes oh yes...Simon I think you'll find at least two more of us here. Beth is indeed a joy to behold, and I have not bought anything yet with which I have been disappointed. However, it has to be said that Terry Callier makes that Best Bit EP with the extra tracks. I had never heard of him before, and as yet have not ventured out to purchase any of his stuff (? I hate that word). But I imagine if you went to see him live, you'd have to get totally reefed up first. Unfortunately few legends ever venture down to sunny Devon so I fear I'll never blessed with the opportunity. -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 09:50:02 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:50:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Baby Face...you're just a lump of lard. Message-ID: <01BD2588.C82B41E0@pc07628> Honeymonster wrote : >I want to start a baby pics site of people on the list. It's all >very serious and freudian but I can't explain why erm... just now. >Please send me your baby pictures - if I get more than three I will >put them up on the WWW page. I can't wait to see Keith with a baby >bottle of Laphroaig. Paul, What is the age limit of these baby pics ? Two reasons : 1. Camera's hadn't been introduced to Devon by 1971. and 2. Up until the age of about two, I was far too f***ing fat two fit on one page of a website. If I can send one of me at about the age of three, then we're talking 1974/5 and some serious Stone Roses / Monkeys haircuts. Love and Lard. Adrian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 09:48:07 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:48:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Chat Room Message-ID: <01bd2588$82d32ea0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> I went up and checked out the chat room last night and was surprised to see that it wasn't there! So what happened! Have we all stopped talking? Oh and I don't work for Virgin I'm afraid, I'm afraid I work at a completely non-balooning company in Edinburgh programming computers. But the Air record's still excellent, even if it does mean subsidising balooning events. Caught a look at Paul's photos from the Manchester gig which is cool and brings back memories, and then makes me remember who certain people are and stuff (bit of a haze the Saturday was) Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 19 18:02:24 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 18:02:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Flibble Wibble Flibble Wibble Flibble Wibble Boo! Message-ID: digests this afternoon, and now my brain has started leaking out my ears. I want sympathy! NOW! How do you people manage to get anything done? I have visions (not frequently, thank goodness) of all you pallid students and secret office misfits crouched over your computers in the early hours typing feverishly. Not a nice thought. I, however, have a REALLY full-time Foundation Course to occupy my time 5 days a week (and then some). Shame on you! Write an essay or audit your accounts or something while I'm slaving over a hot paintbrush. Show that you care. Or not, as the case may be... LIZ'S BOOK OF THE MONTH is: Microserfs by Douglas Coupland (or, indeed, ANY book by Douglas Coupland, although Polaroids From The Dead is rather too Gerry Garcia-obsessed for my liking). Try to ignore all that overblown shite about Generation X, and read some of his wonderfully unsentimental, involving, genuinely moving and very VERY funny prose. Woohoo! Phew! Thank the Lord (ie. HoneyGrumps. Hey, no need to be grumpy - we all love you and would still be glad to give you babies) for the end to Multiple Mailing Syndrome. That piece on Northern Soul was starting to really annoy me, and if it'd continued I would have excercised my secret magic word to cast a hex on the server, thus blightling the life of all listees. Lucky it stopped, eh? Oh, and can I have permission to talk about household pets too, sir? The Espedair Street thing on Radio 4 is quite good, although not nearly as good as the Crow Road thing on BBC 2. There isnae any background noise or anything, and the characterisation of Rick Tumber is just pathetic. Apple'n'pears, plates of meat, any old cliches? I dunno, the radio doesn't seem to really do much for the dramatic arts. I mean, just look at The Archers. What a big pile of poo that is. I shall outline what I attribute this to in my revolutionary new theory: You Can't Do Porn On The Radio. Let me explain: as TV has become more liberal in what it is possible to show, the radio has lost out on innovative production because you can't get the full prurient doses of tits'n'bums on the radio. You can get the comedy twangy soundtracks all right, but these just aren't the same, darlings. Creative media types go straight to TV because they want to show nekkid bodies (for artistic purposes only, of course). I realise this is appallingly generalistic, so don't flame me or anything if you happen to be a pure and virtuous TV producer (yeah, right). Ho hum. STOP GOING ON ABOUT HOUSE OF LOVE! I KNOW NOTHING OF THEM! I DON'T CARE EITHER! AARGH! Sorry about that, I just have ignorance-overload at the moment. Tata. Arrivederci, Liz (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ******************************************* The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep. Robert Frost ****************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Tue Jan 20 10:27:24 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:27:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Matador Press Release References: <62400292.34c3f22c@aol.com> Message-ID: <34C47C0C.DD9F28F3@virgin.net> Nrbqlover wrote: > this brings up a good point. Jenny Toomey in her article on the band in > Puncture magazine states that the masters for TigerMilk were destroyed about > the 1000 copy pressing. How 'bout it Fanclub folk, is this true? As far as i know one of the band's folks has the masters, so no, that's not true! sorry, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Jan 20 11:54:48 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 11:54:48 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Baby Face... NO B&S In-Reply-To: <01BD2588.C82B41E0@pc07628> Message-ID: > What is the age limit of these baby pics ? Um - 5? The entries are rolling in come along and grab a dummy. Let's see there's... 1... yes 1 so far. So hurry while I still have room on my server. [Following is chat stuff - please ignore if you're not on IRC because it makes this list sound exclusive and IT ISN'T! OK? Just need to tell people what happened as lots keep asking me and I haven't time to answer individually ...] As to the chat room - I have the big dunce's hat on today. We were subject to what is called a "channel takeover", a Starsky-and-Hutch name for 5 spotty adolescents who can't get a girl/boyfriend and who eat too much spam thinking it's sort of like being a cyberpunk to grab a room and kick everyone out then, presumably, to do Monty Python sketches to each other for five hours. It was my fault because after giving them a thwack, one came back as our favourite chatter johnm, who will now unaccountably feel guilty even though he was off making some coffee probably, and I gave him privileges without looking. Anyway sanity has been restored and I'll make sure they get a good kicking (courtesy of Dina or Linda my two hounds from hell) and ban them good and proper. I've bored you enough, but just to say, I was terribly touched by the territorial instincts of our chatters who were really angry even though we had a perfectly decent place to talk elsewhere. Oh and I even missed Chris Leonard online, who probably did his Johnny Mathis impression. Chris we want a rerun please. HoneyDunce ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 12:04:51 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:04:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Baby Face... NO B&S Message-ID: <01BD259B.9DD85140@pc07628> Honeytwit wrote: > > > What is the age limit of these baby pics ? > > Um - 5? The entries are rolling in come along and grab a dummy. Let's > see there's... 1... yes 1 so far. So hurry while I still have room on my > server. > If we send you a SAE do we get the photo's back ? I foresee a situation where hundres of mothers are broken-hearted because their treasured memories of their ugly lardy great shit-bags have been lost in the great sinister-void. Oh the prospect of fatherhood....bollocks to that ! -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Jan 20 12:12:35 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:12:35 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: Baby Face... NO B&S In-Reply-To: <01BD259B.9DD85140@pc07628> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, Adrian Evans wrote: > If we send you a SAE do we get the photo's back ? > I foresee a situation where hundres of mothers are broken-hearted because > their treasured memories of their ugly lardy great shit-bags have been > lost in the great sinister-void. Noooo DON'T SEND ME PHOTOS IN THE POST!!! I'm afraid I only want scannings. DON'T SEND ME PHOTOS IN THE POST!!! This isn't Blue Peter I'm afraid. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 12:25:23 1998 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (SL Collins) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:25:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Air In-Reply-To: <34C3A0C9.3EBE3C41@eurobell.co.uk> Message-ID: 'Sexy Boy' misheard as 'Sexy Burning' Much more intriguing Simon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 13:49:04 1998 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:49:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: That old chestnut of illicit taping. Message-ID: <4A6ACE538F2@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> Well, basically, just a thought that cropped up in my head. I thought I'd write it down and see if its a pile of pants. Basically, there is no way anyone can get there hands on Tigermilk, and some lovely people have been taping Tigermilk to help spread the word, and I'm sure that most of the adorable people who have received these tapes will buy Tigermilk when it is eventually re-released by popular demand. But in the meantime, how do we thank B&S, for Tigermilk, as we can't through the revenue which they are not getting. Now one way would be to send them some cash, but that's a terrible idea. Another might be to send them a tape with some of your favourite tunes. Sort of like you might give the tape-ee a tape. Another might be to send them lots of chocolate and some cream in a can which you can squirt over things. D'you think this would just alert them even more to the illigal activity or d'you reckon they might appreciate such gestives in the spirit in which they are meant? Hell, perhaps I'll just get out my crayons and send them a pretty picture. lots of love chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paulf at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 13:58:01 1998 From: paulf at xxx.uk (Paul Forsyth) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 13:58:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: air (no B&S) Message-ID: <34C4AD69.208F@scs.leeds.ac.uk> I've just been looking for Air's PREMIERS SYMPTOMES in town but can't find anything but Moon Safari. Does anyone know if this previous album is released in this country, or will be, or would I have to order it?? Thanks! Paul ____________________________________ / \ Paul Forsyth / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT \____________________________________/ United Kingdom ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 14:00:14 1998 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (SL Collins) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:00:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Beth Orton In-Reply-To: <01BD2588.0173FB00@pc07628> Message-ID: I saw The mighty Beth at T in the Park last summer. It was absolutely gorgeous : the other 30 000 were watching Paul Weller strut his rather lame stuff, while the divine miss orton took a polite little cough to clear her throat, and then burst into her quite beautiful singing voice. The tent had been full all day with dope smokers, so the atmosphere was pretty mellow. Miss Orton, her voice and 500 believers. oh. lovely Simon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 14:03:38 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:03:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: I'm back! Back, I tell you, back!! In-Reply-To: <199801201211.MAA14411@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801201211.MAA14411@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34c8a44a.16909029@email.mcmail.com> Hello, So have we established that we all like Air now. I suppose I started it, but Jeeez. I've been suffering from disappearing digest syndrome recently, but now I'm back, walking amongst you and I ain't gonna be lonesome no more. Jarrett wrote >And if you're really a nutter you might want to pick up the Ettiene de >Crecy disc, "Super Discount" I've got it - so I'm a nutter now, am I? >> B&S content ? Fellow Sinister listee Tag is >> pursueing the Robert Forster >> look ... at least that's what I've been told >> from reliable sources. =A7;^D When did this get written? Who wrote it? I mean it's true, but ... it was Andreas wasn't it? And it was my secret, I was going to waltz in here, with Robert Forster hair and you'd all be dazzled and would ravish me til dawn. Susannah wrote: >However, lets just stick to Belle and Sebastian for now (Trousers and Honey- not >a word, >I know you two can keep a secret). Oooooh, secrets and gossip ... yummy Some people wrote: >I believe Isabelle has 5 or 6 books out now, the easiest to read if you are >quite lazy is 'The Stories Of Eva Luna', it's a collection of short stories >as told by a woman, Eva, to her lover, Rolf Carle. I think all her books >except one have a Peruvian setting, they are all very dense to read, like >you feel quite strongly about the characters. After 'The Stories of Eva >Luna', read 'Eva Luna', which is the story about the woman. But I've read >4 of her books, and they're all excellent. There is a lot of eroticism in >Allende's books, so I'm all excited about this new book about food + sex. >If you see the way she writes, you know this new book will be perfect. >> > I saw movie that addressed food and sexuality a couple of >> > years ago. I >> > think it's called 'Like Water for Chocolate'. I think it >> > was a Spanish >> > or Mexican subtitled flick, very enjoyable. >> >> In which one of the characters says "this is a pleasure of >> the gods", a reference to both stuffing one's face and >> making whoopee. At the same time. > >Don't know if this is quite the same thing, but a friend of mine[1] today >showed me http://www.messyfun.com You're all weird. But not as weird as Honey who wrote: >I want to start a baby pics site of people on the list. It's all >very serious and freudian but I can't explain why erm... just now. >Please send me your baby pictures - if I get more than three I will >put them up on the WWW page. I've got a picture of me naked aged 2, on holiday in the Hebrides. You'd like that, wouldn't you, Mitchell, you sicko. Paul also wrote >As to the chat room - I have the big dunce's hat on today. We were >subject to what is called a "channel takeover", a Starsky-and-Hutch name >for 5 spotty adolescents who can't get a girl/boyfriend and who eat too >much spam thinking it's sort of like being a cyberpunk to grab a room and >kick everyone out then, presumably, to do Monty Python sketches to each >other for five hours. >It was my fault because after giving them a thwack, one came back as >our favourite chatter johnm, who will now unaccountably feel guilty even >though he was off making some coffee probably, and I gave him privileges >without looking. Is it actually against the law to kill people like that? Keith wrote: >Caught a look at Paul's photos from the Manchester gig which is cool and >brings back memories, and then makes me remember who certain people are and >stuff (bit of a haze the Saturday was) Does that mean you can't remember jumping naked on stage and shouting "Who wants to nibble my vegetable burrito", Keith? Susannah has photos. Well, she can make them with her magic photokit thing. And then you'll be sorry for dissing the Pastels. Ha! Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Tue Jan 20 14:20:09 1998 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 20 Jan 98 14:20:09 Subject: Sinister: no b&s-- go betweens Message-ID: <9801201429.AA5004@notesgw.compuserve.com> >> Furthermore, you may be very lucky in finding >> any of the following at >> reasonable prices ... "Lee Remick" 7", "People >> say" 7", "I need two heads" >> 7", >you'll be lucky... if you find these and don;t >have to fork out loads of cash i'll be surprised. I got my copy of "I need two heads" in a crap junk shop stall in Peckham covered market about five years ago. Cost: nicht because my mum was buying some shelves or something and the owner clearly didn't know his Postcard from his Telstar. So I was *very* *very* lucky. It doesn't often happen. "I need two heads" worries me a little because I can't deny that it sounds remarkably like early Cure. And anyway, why does Robert Forster need two heads - the one he's got is really very good in itself. What a greedy man. I'm glad to hear that Tag is striving for the RF look. I am half-trying myself. The hair's getting there (or is it just turning into a mullet - gulp?! Thought: was this the inspiration for Billy the Fish?) but the jawline's got a long way to go. Which brings me nicely (bald lies are the best) onto my B&S content. It's come to my attention that certain wonderful tracks like "The Boy Done Wrong Again" and "Belle And Sebastian" are hovering criminally near to the lowest depths of the voing chart. Also, cute as it is, "She's Losing It" should not be beating "The State I Am In" in the top slot. And I feel sorry for "Electronic Renaissance". If you share my sense of injustice, tactical vote vote vote your way to http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/cgi-bin/vote.cgi and make recompense. The link from the top page didn't seem to work last time I tried it. Nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 14:50:50 1998 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:50:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: babytalk Message-ID: ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 14:26:30 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:26:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: Beth Orton Message-ID: <01BD25AF.676AD100@pc07628> SL Collins wrote: > > > I saw The mighty Beth at T in the Park last summer. It was absolutely > gorgeous : Oh Lucky you !!! > the other 30 000 were watching Paul Weller strut his rather > lame stuff, I would definitely have been torn between the two, but I'm sure I would ended up with you. > while the divine miss orton took a polite little cough to > clear her throat, and then burst into her quite beautiful singing voice. > The tent had been full all day with dope smokers, so the atmosphere > > was pretty mellow. Miss Orton, her voice and 500 believers. oh. I must stop feeling so old and get along to these things...trouble is, being in Devon and without transport you are somewhat cut off from the "real" world. She has a truly wonderful voice. When I bought the "Touch me with Your Love" cd and listened for the first time, I just couldn't believe the version of "Galaxy of Emptiness" was recorded live (until the crownd cheer at the end,obviously). > > lovely > Lovely Indeed. -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9503594b at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 14:54:20 1998 From: 9503594b at xxx.uk (Julia Mary Brown) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 14:54:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Air, the devil, Pastels Message-ID: <810A0013761@student.gla.ac.uk> Lots of people have been going on about Air, and the singles they have had out. I got a 12" (also available on CD, I think) called Premiers Symptoms, and it has 5 tracks on it. I got it in John Smiths, Glasgow where Stephen Pastel works, and it had a sticker on the front that he wrote, to the effect that it was the first 5 releases from Air collected together, with 'no lame remixes'. If you want to investigate more than the album- which I'm going to buy today- then it's excellent. And on a French electronic pop connection, does anyone else like Kid Loco? He's quite similar to Air, and absolutely lovely. Oh, and I have photographic evidence that Steven Welles is in fact the devil. A truely nasty piece of work. Sorry to go off B%S topic, or rather remain off it, but does anyone have the address for the Pastels website. The one I scribbled from somewhere doesn't work, and searces just get me stuff about painting and decorationg. Juilaxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 15:06:54 1998 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:06:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Air, the devil, Pastels Message-ID: >Sorry to go off B%S topic, or rather remain off it, but does anyone >have the address for the Pastels website. http://www.cogsci.ed.ac.uk/~jonathan/pastels.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nrbqlover at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 15:26:51 1998 From: Nrbqlover at xxx.com (Nrbqlover) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 10:26:51 EST Subject: Sinister: Matador Press Release Message-ID: <68482dee.34c4c23e@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-20 05:44:13 EST, Katrina sez: << As far as i know one of the band's folks has the(TigerMilk) masters, so no, that's not true! sorry, Katrina. >> don't be sorry at all!! that's great-i'm not record collector scum, i'd like to be able to own this on cd someday. thanks, clem lane nrbqlover at aol.com n.p. david wrench-black roses 7" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Tue Jan 20 15:59:27 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:59:27 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: I'm back! Back, I tell you, back!! Message-ID: <199801201559.QAA01322@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Tag wrote ... >>> B&S content ? Fellow Sinister listee Tag is >>> pursueing the Robert Forster >>> look ... at least that's what I've been told >>> from reliable sources. =A7;^D > >When did this get written? Who wrote it? I mean it's true, but ... >it was Andreas wasn't it? That wouldn't make sense, why should I name reliable sources when I hear such stuff by the concerned individuals themselves ? >And it was my secret, I was going to waltz in here, with Robert >Forster hair and you'd all be dazzled and would ravish me til dawn. Your secret ?!? Robert Forster asked me personally to represent his interests in the forthcoming law suit, since his hairstyle has been patented, the man is afraid to loose his Redken commercials, let alone his wife. I've told him to ... sorry, telephone, hang on ... oh boy, that was X from Kenickie ... what am I supposed to tell those guys ? "Funny ha ha " Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 15:55:53 1998 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 15:55:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: babytalk Message-ID: ... Tag was wondering... >And perhaps someone could explain why I kept seeing the word >'Skrotum' at Swedish railway stations. You must have had those filth-tinted muso-shades on again....it's apparently written skotrum...a facility for decrusting & nappy(diaper) changing a baby, it turns out. Honey(what's that about anyway)Paul carries on the infant theme... >It's all very serious and freudian but I can't explain why erm... >just now. Please send me your baby pictures - Don't you get a night in the cells for solicitations of that kind? Inspector paedo-knacker (of the web) is always GREPing for traffic like that on the electronic ether. They can take your list-award away as well, y'know. Can I send some childishly-drawn pics instead? -Rod xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 16:36:19 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 16:36:19 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199801201631.QAA21608@pop3.hiway.co.uk> >I saw The mighty Beth at T in the Park last summer. It was absolutely >gorgeous : the other 30 000 were watching Paul Weller strut his rather >lame stuff, while the divine miss orton took a polite little cough to >clear her throat, and then burst into her quite beautiful singing voice. >The tent had been full all day with dope smokers, so the atmosphere was >pretty mellow. Miss Orton, her voice and 500 believers. oh. I was there too. While my friends watched Weller and my girlfriend, the seahorses, I stood in the front row, directly in front of her, in a daze. Beautiful stuff indeed. It was the highlight of the weekend. Just a shame they wouldn't let her play an encore. John. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Tue Jan 20 17:20:02 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 17:20:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BS in Dublin shocker Message-ID: No, hold back, it's not news that the band are playing three matinee gigs in Dublin castle. Unfortunately... I was just in HMW trying to beg for a part-time job. I'm fed up of working in bars. And I wandered about looking for something to grab my attention when all I could see was IYFS on the listening booth style thing. Wow a free listen, not like I have to pay to listen to the album anyway. Gosh Dublin is finally catching on. And they are selling it for the bargin price of IRpounds 15.49 !!! This is in the store who three months ago had never even heard of them. Shit I need to go to work.. Bye, Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Tue Jan 20 17:45:37 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 98 17:45:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Naughty Catatonian Man of Mystery Message-ID: <199801201743.RAA31773@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> a few days ago I wrote: >>Funny that, but nearly every time I watch MTV there's usually just a pile >>of shit on (either that or 'Lucky Man' by The Verve). To which Tag replied: >A pile of shit OR 'Lucky Man'? I'm a man of mystery, I want to leave people wondering. Much preferable to starting slanging matchesŠ Nah! Scrub the above, I'll be a miserable git today: >as you all think I am a miserable Radiohead loving gimboid I >reccommend the Catatonia kit. I think I'll give that a miss judging the bloody awful "Mulder and Scully" single they've just released. Why all the Hyperbole surrounding Catatonia? Why do they have a cat singing on this tune? Simon Collins said regarding the divine Beth Orton: >I saw The mighty Beth at T in the Park last summer. It was absolutely >gorgeous : the other 30 000 were watching Paul Weller strut his rather >lame stuff,ŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠŠMiss Orton, her voice and 500 believers. oh. Are you sure there were as few as that? My girlfriend and I were there too. I had this bloody great big light shining right in my face most of the set. I think we got a good deal versus standing out in the ankle-high mire being bored to tears by the Modfather. No B&S content, other than that I've been naughty and haven't been listening to them very much lately. Apart from a late night craving for "Judy and the Dream of Horses" last Thursday. I think I'll go and top up with "Photo Jenny". Byeee! The Lairdster. ARGHHHHHHH! Somebody's nicked me LLPJ! - sob, sob. looks like it'll have to wait while I do some detective work. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Jan 20 23:17:34 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 98 15:17:34 PST Subject: Sinister: stuff In-Reply-To: <34C329AE.7621@scs.leeds.ac.uk> References: Conversation <34C329AE.7621@scs.leeds.ac.uk> with last message <34C329AE.7621@scs.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: i dug out some old violent femmes records last night. i forgot how good they were. what's all this about air? i heard that song sexy boy on the cmj sampler and it didn't sound like anything great to me. did i maybe listen to the wrong track number thinking i was listneing to air? it was all synthy and moogy. was that air? if so, i'll be the voice of opposition on this whole air talk. i got that puncture magazine someone mentioned. franklin bruno went to the new york show and wrote that he didn't think b&s would last long because the guitar player would leave because he looked like he was trying to be cool and leaderly while the others didn't. and he went on to say that the guitar player (i don't know who the guitar player is) looked upset that all the attention was being focused on stuart. but he said, if anything, stuart would last longer than the band. that's kind of a mean thing to write. i've heard those stuart demos, and the whole b& band sound is much better. but, i recommend the article. that franklin bruno bit is just about 1/15th of the article. it's huge. and it's well written. i looked for it on the puncture web site, but they didn't have it up. and if it wasn't so damn long, i'd type it up for yous. so go buy it. -brad ********************************************* that smile on your face i tried to erase that smile on your face but a kiss was not the answer a drunken kiss was not the answer (bill callahan) ********************************************* ---------- > Hiya, > > My post earlier about Air wasn't exactly B&S content so I'll make up > with this one. > > Whilst I was at the concerts in Manchester I took one or two pics, and > I've stuck them together for a web-site. Stuart Gardiner gave me his > pics so I've put both his and my own on-line. > > The URL is: > > http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/home/pleasure/creations/photos/bs97/ > > The site is really a personal account of my weekend, as other B&S sites > do more than enough justice to the band! > > Some of the pages are quite intensive for loading so beware. Many of the > pictures are thumbnails, meaning that by clicking on them you see the > full size pic. > > If you have any problems please email me. If the page looks all bizarre > check that you screen can handle 16-bit colours - on 8-bit (256 colours) > it does look odd. > > Enjoy! > > Paul > ____________________________________ > / \ Paul Forsyth > / E: paulf at scs.leeds.ac.uk \ Computer Science > { W: http://www.scs.leeds.ac.uk/paulf/ } University Of Leeds > \ P: +44-113-233-6827 / Leeds LS2 9JT > \____________________________________/ United Kingdom > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AFox at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 17:28:24 1998 From: AFox at xxx.com (Andy Fox) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 12:28:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: another DC meetup Message-ID: Anyone in the Washington, DC area that wishes to join other B&S junkies for some drinks and conversation (or just to see what the others look like) please come to the Fox & Hounds lounge located in Dupont Circle at 17th & Q on Saturday January 24. We are trying to meet around 7:30 or so. If interested let me know. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Jan 20 19:35:42 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 19:35:42 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: No B&S: Chat rooms go secret In-Reply-To: <199801201841.SAA08721@raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk> Message-ID: Sorry (again) - this isn't B&S but IRC admin stuff. Please bear with me as it's the only way to catch everyone. If we had more B&S news now I would feel less guilty. We've had so much hassle from hackers and fools I'm going to hide the two rooms for a trial period of two weeks - this means they will become "secret" and you have to know they exist to find them so you won't see them in a list. Just type "/join #Sinister". Any BIG objections mail me. HP xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Jan 20 21:08:31 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 21:08:31 GMT Subject: Sinister: Jimi Tenor is my new God, he tells me what to do Message-ID: <34c8121c.2920385@email.mcmail.com> Kids! I almost forgot. Last night I went to see Jimi Tenor and Stereolab. And after a strangely bollocks jazzfunkoid Jamiroqui start, accompanied by a million students doing 'Jazz Club' impressions, Jimi totally ruled, like Stevie Wonder (circa 'Livin for the city') meets Suicide produced by Etienne de Crecy. He wore a polo neck with almost as much style as Keith Watson, and quaffed champagne between songs - suave fucker. Finland is the future. The 'Lab were ace too, but they always are. Right Susannah? Secret chat, Paul ... I'm only surprised you didn't do it before. I'm still looking for baby photos, there's a very sexy one of me pretending to drive. And a nice one of me in a sunhat with a bucket and spade. God I was as cute then as I am now. But no nude pics, they came later in my glittering career, when I was a body double for Marky Mark. Or was it Mark E. Smith? I kiss you, Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 00:10:26 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 00:10:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk Message-ID: <199801202257.WAA08437@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> can someone please make me a tape copy of Tigermilk please please please I am UK can offer RH bsides tape or Catatonia tape in return thanx Northy ``Don't be afraid to take a big step. You can't cross a chasm in two small jumps.'' - David Lloyd George. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leongmun at xxx.sg Wed Jan 21 03:04:21 1998 From: leongmun at xxx.sg (Leong Mun Wai) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:04:21 +0800 (GMT-8) Subject: Sinister: tigermilk In-Reply-To: <199801202257.WAA08437@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: > can someone please make me a tape copy > of Tigermilk > > please please please > Could I request that someone please please please make me a copy too? Much Thanks, Mun Wai ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 06:43:57 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 06:43:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian content! Message-ID: <34C5992C.DA640E55@totalweb.co.uk> noticing a severe lack of belle and sebastian content i've decided to try and help spice up the list by asking if anyone can help me with a bit that i'm making for the fan club site. basically it's an faq of belle and sebastian so that new people don't feel silly asking us simple questions and the such attached are two web pages (if you're using a html capable mail program they may appear below - if not save them to disk and open them with your browser) one contains the faq, the other a biog that the faq will look up. if you could read them and, correct any of my mistakes or recommend new questions. then i'd be grateful thanks david -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From ahalter at xxx.edu Wed Jan 21 06:58:20 1998 From: ahalter at xxx.edu (ahalter) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 22:58:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: hullo Message-ID: my name is allison and ive only just arrived at this list... i live in los angeles and so i am very far away i think from most other people... i just began listening to b&s this holiday because my friend laura has 'if youre feeling sinister' and then i was hooked right away... i am looking for anyone who could possibly make me a tape of 'tigermilk' and the seven inches and any other stuff because really there are hardly any places to buy decent records here and i cannot get enough b&s and none of my friends here have heard of them at all! i would send you presents and tapes and other nice things in return! i am a very good penpal as well... so if anyone can help please let me know... allison ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 09:42:42 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 09:42:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: tigermilk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Leong Mun Wai wrote: hiya sinistereans to all you kind kind people, > > can someone please make me a tape copy > > of Tigermilk > > > > please please please > > > > Could I request that someone please please please make me a copy too? > .... please, please, please let me get what I want .... I dont mind payiny for the tape and postage. Cheers D A N I E L O O > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mdp21 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 10:12:22 1998 From: mdp21 at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:12:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk tapes In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Seeing as how Ben so kindly made me a tape of Tigermilk and 2 radio sessions a few months back, it must be time to give something back. Anyone who wants a tape can e-mail me privately. Offers of trades welcomed. Mark (looking forward to getting loads of post) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Jan 21 10:13:56 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:13:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Belle And Sebastian Screen Saver Is Evil Message-ID: It has come to my attention that the Belle And Sebastian Screen Saver, will not save yor screen. It will destroy it. Therefore I urge you not to use it as a screen saver. Observe it more as a piece of wonderful blue animated art. As every computer boffin knows, a black pixel if an off pixel. Therefore the ultimate screen saver would be a black screen (ref: Honey). Not a bright blue screen that doesn't do much. So i apoligise to all you who spent time downloading, and i feel like a total arse. Shite. I'll never work for IBM at this rate. But on the plus side I am a quick learner. Out of this sad and sorry affair I have come through dauntingly inspired. Last night, after my ninjitsu lesson, i started work on a new screen saver, with incredible galloping horses and a beautiful sleeping, eh, beauty. I thought, "whatever can i call it?". A voice told me "Call it 'Judy and the dream of horses Screen Saver'". So coming soon, the "Judy And The Dream Of Horses Screen Saver". It will probably change the world. And It may actually also be of some use as a screen saver. Dang Nabbit. I can't get "The Frog Chorus" out of my head. Bum bu bu bu Bugh Bugh Bugh. I hope this doesn't happen on national television. Tom Jones ======== I think going to see Tom Jones is a wonderful idea. He'll probably do "The young New Mexican Puppeteer". He's the sexiest man alive (apart from Sean) and I think we should all go and see him before he dies of being too sexy. Let's do it! Speak up! from Rock Hudson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 10:30:43 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:30:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: how much is that Tiger in the window? Message-ID: <199801211041.KAA26393@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Opal Music (01228 599226) or sales at opalmusic.u-net.com say in their advertisement in NME today that they have a copy ofTigermilk for sale. They don't give a price (it says 'ask'). If anyone finds out could they let me know, just out of interest? I'd ask myself, but it would break my heart because I'd have trouble affording the postage alone just at the moment... Thanks Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Wed Jan 21 11:28:54 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:28:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New club night in Edinburgh. Message-ID: <199801211123.LAA13957@pop3.hiway.co.uk> Anybody on the list planing to go to the opening night of 'North' on Saturday? It's at La Belle Angel in The Cowgate, Edinburgh. Fiver to get in, and Whiteout are playing. According to my girlfriend the flyer lists Belle & Sebastian as one of the bands they play. Of course, she might just be saying that to get me to go. Anyway, I might see some of you there. The Laird Of East Fountainbridge - I hope this doesn't leave The Egg half empty! Cheers, John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 10:45:24 1998 From: benjamin.coombs.bcoombs at xxx.uk (Coombs, Benjamin (B.J.)) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 10:45:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian web page, with lots of rare pictures Message-ID: I found a Belle and Sebastian web page, with lots of rare pictures: http://home.pi.net/%7Egpost/redbs.htm ... But before you get excited, they are all of the black and white TV series. Has anyone seen pictures of the cartoon on the net? I can't seem to find any. :) Bryter layter Benjamin ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Tue Jan 20 19:16:31 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 20:16:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Chat Room References: <01bd2588$82d32ea0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34C4F80E.D99C88B2@colon.net.> Keith Watson wrote: > Oh and I don't work for Virgin I'm afraid, I'm afraid > I work at a > completely non-balooning company in Edinburgh programming > computers. But the > Air record's still excellent, even if it does mean > subsidising balooning > events. Am I correct in thinking that Virgin Records no longer belongs to Mister Beardy Ballon features Branson? Or did I make it up? Anyway, I would like to say that Air are a load of shite, especially when compared to Air Supply, whose "I'm all out of love, I'm so lost without you" is the best record in the short but eventful history of Australia. To be honest I haven't heard Air, but I like to put the hedge amongst the pickles. > > > Caught a look at Paul's photos from the Manchester gig > which is cool and > brings back memories, and then makes me remember who > certain people are and > stuff (bit of a haze the Saturday was) Yes, congratulations Mister Forsyth. It is a very entertaining website, especially the listees bit. Keith is undeniably gorgeous, and David Kitchen is loveliness itself. The band members all seem to have changed a lot since September. Either that or my memory's playing up again. Chris's sidies weren't nearly as prominent, and Stevie didn't look like Ian Dury. Without wishing to bring up an old chestnut, I walked into my local Boots style shop this afternoon to buy a sponge to paint with and they were playing "The Drugs Don't Work" by Sir Dickie Ashcroft and it sounded very good indeed. Lent proceedings an air of epic grandeur that they don't usually have. Without wishing to bring up an old chestnut, I have just become the proud owner of the Nick Drake biography. I haven't read much yet, and what I have read is about the Titanic, but I feel a bit like those kids who used to start crying even before "E.T." had started. It's very sad before the sad bit even gets under way. Regards, Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 11:44:07 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 11:44:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: New club night in Edinburgh. Message-ID: <01bd2661$e1abfc70$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Anybody on the list planing to go to the opening night of 'North' on >Saturday? It's at La Belle Angel in The Cowgate, Edinburgh. Fiver to get >in, and Whiteout are playing. According to my girlfriend the flyer lists >Belle & Sebastian as one of the bands they play. Of course, she might just >be saying that to get me to go. Anyway, I might see some of you there. > >The Laird Of East Fountainbridge - I hope this doesn't leave The Egg half >empty! North, that puts me off given a rather dodgy Sunday night recently in Manchester that Paul, Julia, Stuart and Susannah will remember. Doubt it'll leave the Egg half empty especially if Whiteout are playing mind you! Oh and John, can you mail me Ian Jackson's email address, I've lost it. Cheers. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Wed Jan 21 12:28:30 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 12:28:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Web Site & Request Message-ID: <199801211223.MAA21980@pop3.hiway.co.uk> I've found a web site that pretty good, and I thought some of you would be interested. It's called 'Rainsound' and it covers mainly Scottish bands. They have features on The Bathers, The Pearlfishers etc. There's also a few mentions of Belle & Sebby, but not much yet. The address is : http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/9230/home.htm On a slightly different subject, does anybody on the list own a copy of the compilation, 'In Bed With Marina'? If so, any chance of a copy? I'll can offer a copy of Tigermilk or whatever in return. Cheers John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Wed Jan 21 11:31:14 1998 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 21 Jan 98 11:31:14 Subject: Sinister: Warning: No Air Content Message-ID: <9801211229.AA0674@notesgw.compuserve.com> I'm developing a strange obsession for seeing how the chart on http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/cgi-bin/vote.cgi is developing. I think I'm pining for the days when I used to sit next to the radio with my copy of the previous week's Top 100 from Record Mirror and try to second guess what the movers and shakers would be before Bruno Brookes announced them. Anyway, 'String Bean Jean' seems to be racing up the rankings, and I'm pleased to see that 'Belle And Sebastian' is gaining form. But have you seen that we can now also vote for a selection of unreleased tracks too. But why the strange selection? What's wrong with (deep breath): Loneliness Of The Middle Distance Runner, Chick Factor, London Has Let Me Down Again, Hurley's Having Dreams, A Summer Wasting, Tigermilk, Is It Wicked Not To Care, Ease Your Feet In The Sea, Rhoda or Soft Touch. What's that you say? No ones even heard the last two? Pah - who cares. Cast your vote anyway. Think of it like a general election - you never know what horrors evil Tony and his stooges are going to bring but you mark your X all the same. Perhaps Soft Touch will start mugging disabled single mothers within six months of being released, but that's the gamble. Anyway, you can always change your vote. Nick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 13:33:09 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:33:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Civic Duty Message-ID: <199801211304.NAA06025@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> I have done my Civic Duty and voted on the Fanclub site. A marvellous feeling of liberty there is too and I hope Nick enjoys my voting. He is clearly the Peter Snow of the list and I look forward to some impressive interpretation of the voting trends. In fact once in the booth I found I was heavily influenced by a recent party poptastical broadcast and I swung heavily in favour of "Century of Elvis" which I had been listening to while doing my ironing last night. ***thinks...I have got to that stage in my life where I hear a song and think "The words are alright; but I couldn't really iron to it" (Am hoping new Air album will be tops for domestic chores - whaddya say? - also am gutted that Peter managed to fit in an Air Supply gag before I could think of one - kudos to you PM) /end thinks****. Anyhow as I skilfully wafted the iron over the crinkled mass of cotton laid out before me I was listening to all the EPs but when C0fE (wow was this a subliminal plot by the band to make us Anglicans...) came on I put down my iron and my laundry and was comforted (as it says in the Good Sleeve Note). Wonderful xxx john "packed with topic" johnston ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Jan 21 15:18:06 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:18:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Bearded Man Update In-Reply-To: <34C4F80E.D99C88B2@colon.net.> Message-ID: On Tue, 20 Jan 1998, PM - AU wrote: > Keith Watson wrote: > > > Oh and I don't work for Virgin I'm afraid, I'm afraid > > I work at a > > completely non-balooning company in Edinburgh programming > > computers. But the > > Air record's still excellent, even if it does mean > > subsidising balooning > > events. > > Am I correct in thinking that Virgin Records no longer > belongs to Mister Beardy Ballon features Branson? Or did I > make it up? Virgin Records is owned by EMI who own HMV. Virgin Megastores is 75% owned by WH Smiths and 25% by Richard Branson the Monkey. This also holds for Our Price. Virgin Radio is owned by Chris Evans. V2 Records is owned by the Noel Edmonds impersonater. And Virgin Cola tastes of piss. Hope this helps. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Halaska: n. The boxed area on a US map where the 49th and 50th states | are located ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Jan 21 15:23:53 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (Billy Goatgruff) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:23:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: New club night in Edinburgh. In-Reply-To: <01bd2661$e1abfc70$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Keith Watson wrote: >Anybody on the list planing to go to the opening night of 'North' on >Saturday? It's at La Belle Angel in The Cowgate, Edinburgh. Fiver to get >in, and Whiteout are playing. According to my girlfriend the flyer lists >Belle & Sebastian as one of the bands they play. Of course, she might just >be saying that to get me to go. Anyway, I might see some of you there. Doubt I'm going to be there this week, as I was never a fan of Whiteout anyway, but I can at least confirm that B&S are on the flyer. I'll probably give it a try the week after, though, as there are no decent indie clubs on in Embra on a Saturday[1] However, I *WILL* be at LBA (hey - that's the same initials as Little Big Adventure, Infocom fans) on Valentines Day, as Ultrasound[2] are performing, with support from... DAWN OF THE REPLICANTS! (Yay!) Oh, and theaudience are playing there a couple of weeks later (whose lead singer is the daughter of Janet Ellis off of Blue Peter), whose single was on Radio 1 this morning, and sounded like Salad if they'd forgotten the loud bits in their standard quietbit-loudbit-quietbit formula. Do you think I'd ever get a job in the music press with similes like that? Rod. [1] Yes, I know of the ovoid one. And I still think it sucks a big donkey. [2] Thanks for pointing out that NME tape, Keith. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Windnesty: n. The belief that if the parking ticket lodged between | you wiper and windshield blows away, you don't have to pay ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 15:07:08 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:07:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A Century of Elvers Message-ID: <01bd267e$3dd49a40$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> I'd probably agree that it's a little odd having a load of songs on the voting thingy that people haven't or are unlikely to have heard odd, however for a band where the majority of their material is currently very difficult to get then relative comparisons on voting could only make much sense between the second LP and the EP's. She's losing it's in the lead is it? That's odd. I'm surprised by the low turnout for A Century of Fakers myself, and indeed for Electronic Renaissance, although that's one I know splits the ranks. You know how I said I didn't read any books, well.... Here it comes... I'm currently reading "Inside OLE 2.0" Fantastic eh readers! It doesn't make much sense mind you, for those of you who haven't read this book :-) , here's a quick definition "OLE is a unified environment of object-based services with the capability of both customizing those services and arbitrarily extending the architecture throuw custom services, with the overall purpose of enabling rich integration between components". Cool eh! Ooooohh Goooodd Heellllp mee... Keith. ps : Klas, I may well be seeing Athole tonight as it's a mutual friend's birthday, so I'll get his address if I do. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 15:56:06 1998 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:56:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: muzique tropique Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980121155606.23e7cf70@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> Hello everybody-everybody in the house of love, >Julia Mary wrote: >Oh, and I have photographic evidence that Steven Welles is in fact >the devil. A truely nasty piece of work. What would his uncle Orson say? >And on a French electronic pop connection, does anyone else like Kid >Loco? He's quite similar to Air, and absolutely lovely. C'est vrai. Although the 10" and a 12" = great expectations, the LP was OK. Stock, Hausen and Walkman are good too, Dimitri from Paris, Gentle People, Wiseguys(some), Mekon, Tipsy, Sabres' Wilmot, Plone(press a key)(The 'exquisite' casanova 70 is 'all I need' without the useless vocals) And something irrelevant: >Tim wrote: >Opal Music (01228 599226) or sales at opalmusic.u-net.com say in their >advertisement in NME today that they have a copy ofTigermilk for sale. They >don't give a price (it says 'ask'). >If anyone finds out could they let me know, just out of interest? Called them this morning, it was sold last night for £160. Pff. You are insane. Kelly watch the stars (little twin) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From O9716742 at xxx.UK Wed Jan 21 16:14:19 1998 From: O9716742 at xxx.UK (David OReilly) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:14:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: hey all belle and sebastian fans!! anyone from n.ireland?? if so, please get back to me. i am david o reilly, im 19 and at queens uni, belfast. im a pretty new bas fan, but absolutely fucking love if your feeling sinister. i also love radiohead, spiritualized, primal scream and rem, and am obsessed by homer j simpson. please please please reply!! i want to talk to you people!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Wed Jan 21 16:28:53 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:28:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nothing to do with B&S Message-ID: <199801211623.QAA21940@pop3.hiway.co.uk> Keith wrote: >You know how I said I didn't read any books, well.... Here it comes... >I'm currently reading "Inside OLE 2.0" Fantastic eh readers! It doesn't make >much sense mind you, for those of you who haven't read this book :-) , >here's a quick definition "OLE is a unified environment of object-based >services with the capability of both customizing those services and >arbitrarily extending the architecture throuw custom services, with the >overall purpose of enabling rich integration between components". Cool eh! >Ooooohh Goooodd Heellllp mee... By a cruel twist of fate, I'm reading something pretty similar. I've just started an Open University course called 'Computing : An Object Orientated Approach'. A ton of books, binders and CD-ROM�s landed on my doorstep yesterday. Scary stuff. Any other Open Uni students on the list? John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gar at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 16:28:56 1998 From: gar at xxx.uk (Gordon A Rogers) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:28:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Perfume Message-ID: No not the band. All this talk of books involving food and sex reminds me of a book by Patrick Suskind called 'Perfume'. Although nothing to do with food or indeed sex, I think it would appeal to most listees. Basically it's about a Frenchman who has an amazing sense of smell and strives to capture the best smell in the world (the one we emit just after dying - apparently). The desire to find this smell leads us into the characters mind as he murders innocent people just to obtain this beautiful smell. The opening scene is the birth of the book's villian (a character you are both repulsed by and can empathise with). His mother basically has the child as she works in the fish market (using her gutting knife to cut the ambilical cord). I think it was this opening scene which reminded me of one of the books previously mentioned. I haven't really done the plot any justice at all here, but the language used in the book is wonderful and the description of the central characters olfactory ability is gorgeous. Go Buy It Now. Anyway are sex and food equivalent to smell and murder ? - I know which I prefer - Gordon (Who said scientists couldn't read) _________________________________ Gordon Rogers Room 7 Flat DF St Peter Street Aberdeen AB24 3HU email : gar at csd.abdn.ac.uk phone : (01224) 637 430 "You Must Think First Before You Move" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 16:46:54 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 98 16:46:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New club night in Edinburgh. Message-ID: <199801211645.QAA08688@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >>Anybody on the list planing to go to the opening night of 'North' on >>Saturday? It's at La Belle Angel in The Cowgate, Edinburgh. Fiver to get >>in, and Whiteout are playing. According to my girlfriend the flyer lists >>Belle & Sebastian as one of the bands they play. Of course, she might just >>be saying that to get me to go. Anyway, I might see some of you there. >> >>The Laird Of East Fountainbridge - I hope this doesn't leave The Egg half >>empty! > > >North, that puts me off given a rather dodgy Sunday night recently in >Manchester that Paul, Julia, Stuart and Susannah will remember. > >Doubt it'll leave the Egg half empty especially if Whiteout are playing mind >you! Thanks Keith! Just a word of warning if you're planning to go to this 'North' thingie: Be aware it is just another 'FBI'/'Madchester' spin-off. It's run by the same people (big Business), and probably has DJ 'Shine' Lee at the helm. Despite having B&S on the flyer I suspect it'll be just another 'Day Tripper' affair ('FBI' ran that club as well). Of course 'North' might be just your indie-kids cup of tea, or 'FBI' with some musical taste. I'm not slagging it off just 'cos I run a club. Strangely enough, the guy I run 'The Egg' with ran a club in Edinburgh called 'North' for two years during the Madchester craze - so I told him he should sue them. Byeee! The Laird of East Fountainbridge. P.S. Dead clubs run by the FBI people: MI5, CIA, Fat Neck, Day Tripper, Neighbouhood, Shaft, Big Fridays, Club Haka, E.R. ŠŠŠŠ and about a half-dozen others. BEWARE!!! BOO TO THE BUSINESS WORLD. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 16:46:50 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:46:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: Perfume. Message-ID: <199801211646.QAA06243@brookes.ac.uk> The Patrick Suskind 'Perfume' book was also the favourite book of Kurt Cobain by the way, _and_ Andy Bell of Erasure. What a coincidence eh ? it's a good read too. Why I remember all this useless info I know not. To get some B&S content into this mail, David & Katrina; are you making anymore 'Judy...' mugs, or are they sadly a thing of the past ? Any news on the thieving robbers too ? Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 16:57:35 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:57:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Smells like no B&S content Message-ID: <199801211631.QAA13931@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Re- Perfume My friend Alice swears the best smell in the world is that of the freshly bathed and annointed Sumo wrestler on the way to the Basho. When she was living in Tokyo she saw some of these burly warriors in all their ceremonial threads and walked behind them entranced by the amazing smell. Or maybe she likes a fat arse. Or both xx john >---------- >From: Gordon A Rogers[SMTP:gar at xxx.uk] >Sent: 21 Jan 1998 16:28 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: Perfume > >No not the band. > >All this talk of books involving food and sex reminds me of a book by >Patrick Suskind called 'Perfume'. > >Although nothing to do with food or indeed sex, I think it would appeal to >most listees. Basically it's about a Frenchman who has an amazing sense of >smell and strives to capture the best smell in the world (the one we emit >just after dying - apparently). The desire to find this smell leads us >into the characters mind as he murders innocent people just to obtain this >beautiful smell. > >The opening scene is the birth of the book's villian (a character you are >both repulsed by and can empathise with). His mother basically has the >child as she works in the fish market (using her gutting knife to cut the >ambilical cord). > >I think it was this opening scene which reminded me of one of the books >previously mentioned. > > I haven't really done the plot any justice at all here, but the language >used in the book is wonderful and the description of the central >characters olfactory ability is gorgeous. Go Buy It Now. > >Anyway are sex and food equivalent to smell and murder ? >- I know which I prefer > >- Gordon (Who said scientists couldn't read) > >_________________________________ > >Gordon Rogers >Room 7 >Flat DF >St Peter Street >Aberdeen >AB24 3HU > >email : gar at csd.abdn.ac.uk >phone : (01224) 637 430 > >"You Must Think First Before You Move" > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Wed Jan 21 17:09:37 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (Pierre the Performing Petrified Parrot) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:09:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: A Century of Elvers In-Reply-To: <01bd267e$3dd49a40$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > I'd probably agree that it's a little odd having a load of songs on the > voting thingy that people haven't or are unlikely to have heard odd, however > for a band where the majority of their material is currently very difficult > to get then relative comparisons on voting could only make much sense > between the second LP and the EP's. She's losing it's in the lead is it? > That's odd. I'm surprised by the low turnout for A Century of Fakers myself, > and indeed for Electronic Renaissance, although that's one I know splits the > ranks. My problem is that I can't remember what each track's called. I just bung the CD/tape on and listen as I read/work/play Quake. There's very few that I can hear and name instantly ('specially the B-sides to the EPs) > You know how I said I didn't read any books, well.... Here it comes... > I'm currently reading "Inside OLE 2.0" Fantastic eh readers! I don't want to spoil it for you, but the butler did it. > Ooooohh Goooodd Heellllp mee... Useful Tip: Don't read any computer books unless they're published by O'Reilly & Associates. At least they've got a sense of humour (as seen by their Windows 95 Annoyances range!) Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Yearagostats: n. The part of a forecast that tells you what the | weather was like a year ago so you'll feel even more miserable ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 19:15:36 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:15:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Naughty Catatonian Man of Mystery......is this me? Message-ID: <199801211802.SAA19473@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> I am a huge fan of Catatonia and, much as I love Belle and Sebastian, I think that Cerys would eat them up for breakfast along with her milk and cookies > I think I'll give that a miss judging the bloody awful "Mulder > and Scully" single they've just released. Why all the Hyperbole > surrounding Catatonia? Why do they have a cat singing on this tune? Catatonia write great rocky pop numbers and are great live. At least, unlike that godawful Rialto record "untouchable" the record is good! A proper singalong chorus. Respect going out to Leslie Chinea (for being so cool), Tag(for giving a young "Spießbürger a chance), Nick Dragon (for not having a go at me for forgetting how to spell his name), and Paul 'cause I know you are out there (send your first message man) ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From yazansam at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 17:59:27 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Yaz) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:59:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ........arse!! / drink !! / girls' knickers!! Message-ID: <199801211806.SAA08159@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Greetings fellow sinisterians (kinda like shakespearian only minus the shakespeare. Anyway, i've decided i like this better than sinisterines which for me has a kind of tangerine flavour and for some strange reason, tango advert associations. [Disturbingly, this has led me to picture you all as short, round, orange people and i'm scared that when i eventually do meet you, our conversations will be very short and hurried because of some deeep-seated worry i'll have that you'll all EXPLODE!! ]) Do none of you have anything better to do than sending me 247 e-mails about how soddin marvellous the new Air single is? I'm NOT going to say that you're all insane/ the single's shite/ utter arse/ drink !!/ girls' knickers!! ( Don't worry yankees - it's a glasto-thang). Oh no, at Honey Pie Paulie Poo's request i'm going to keep schtum. BUT i am going to say.......I DON'T BLOODY CARE how damned good they are - i never did - and after 247 emails, I still don't give a monkey's left arse. STOP SENDING ME AIR-MAIL!! For the love of god, STOP!!!.........Aaaaaaaaarrgh!!!!!!!!! [yep, "she's losing it"] (yeah, i know, i know - bad, baad jokes] And whoever it was who said that they thought there was a secret Virgin employee amongst us - i agree. There's definitely GOT to be a spy here, who i think we should find, and then castrate. Anyone wanna join me? Else own up you bastard. Anyway, I'm too hungry to find the culprit with a sick "sense of humour" now, so Au revoir mes cuties, Yaz xxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From j.stuart at xxx.com Wed Jan 21 18:28:48 1998 From: j.stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:28:48 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199801211823.SAA06911@pop3.hiway.co.uk> The Laird Of Egg wrote: >Just a word of warning if you're planning to go to this 'North' thingie: >Be aware it is just another 'FBI'/'Madchester' spin-off. It's run by the >same people (big Business), and probably has DJ 'Shine' Lee at the helm. >Despite having B&S on the flyer I suspect it'll be just another >'Day Tripper' affair ('FBI' ran that club as well). North is run by the same guy as Madchester (but nothing to do with FBI, as far as I know). My girlfriend knows the bloke who runs it, and says he's a really nice bloke. No big business thang going on there, apparantly. John S. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 17:24:14 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:24:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Music Quiz Round 1 : Doomsday has arrived Message-ID: Hello all you pop quizzers! I have been sent the answers! And NOW I know why no-one could get number 14....... daft! and 1. makes no sense to me at all! Oh no, it does now. Sorry. I think I have progressed onto the next round two.....LOOK OUT FOR POP QUIZ#2! 1. Complete the sequence... 8, 3, 7, ? (4) THIS IS 4 FOR THE SIMPLE (PAH!) REASON THAT THESE ARE THE SINGLES FROM THE SUPER FURRY ANIMALS' ALBUM 'RADIATOR' IN THE ORDER OF TRACK LISTING FROM THAT ALBUM: 8 - Hermann Loves Pauline 3 - International Language of Screaming 7 - Play It Cool 4 - DEMONS SIMPLE, YES? ;-P 2. Complete the sequence... 43, N/A, ?, 22, 38 (5) WELL YOU'RE ALL OBVIOSULY IDIOTS NOT TO GET THIS ONE - IT'S KENICKIE'S SINGLES (PUNKA ONWARDS) CHART POSITIONS! OBVIOUSLY! 43 - Punka N/A - Millionaire Sweeper 27 - IN YOUR CAR 22 - Nightlife 38 - Punka Re-release 3. Si tu etais un ange... Comes from which current single? And what does it mean? (2) IT'S FROM RIALTO'S WONDERFUL 'UNTOUCHABLE' AND IT MEANS - 'IF YOU WERE AN ANGEL' - THE FIRST LINE OF THE SONG (IN ENGLISH) AND APPEARING ON THE FRONT OF THE SINGLE IN FRENCH. 4. What was the UK's best-selling single of 97, and what was Europe's? (2) UK - ELTON JOHN 'CANDLE IN THE WIND 97' - QUELLE SURPRISE! EUROPE - SWEDISH FUNSTERS AQUA'S 'BARBIE GIRL' 5. Lauren Laverne is currently seeing which journalist? (1) MELODY MAKER'S TAYLOR PARKES FOR THE MOMENT BUT SHE KNOWS WHERE I AM SHOULD SHE CHANGE HER MIND. 6. Who released an album last year named 'Ice Cream'? (1) SALAD 7. Name the band/track from this lyric "Idiot - Slow Down" (1) RADIOHEAD 'THE TOURIST' 8. Name the band/track from this lyric "Too much Montechristo No 4 - Pass The Ventolin, I need some more" (1) SUPER FURRY ANIMALS 'HERMANN LOVES PAULINE' 9. Name 5 Welsh bands who have had top 40 hits in the last year. (5) 5 FROM SUPER FURRY ANIMALS, STEREOPHONICS, MANIC ST PREACHERS, GORKY'S ZYGOTIC MYNCI, CATATONIA, AND I THINK 60FT DOLLS IF THEY'RE WELSH. I'M SURE SOMEONE WILL LET ME KNOW. 10. A Brimful Of Asha on the WHAT? (1) 45 - AND IT'S RE=RELEASED IN THE UK ON 16TH FEB WITH NEW MIXES SO YOU'D BETTER BUY IT. 11. Name Embrace's debut single and record label it appeared on. (2) NOT FIREWORKS EP BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY 'ALL YOU GOOD GOOD PEOPLE' WHICH ORIGINALLY APPEARED ON FIERCE PANDA BEFORE IT'S BIG SUCCESS ON THE HUT LABEL. 12. Name any three singles which have been re-released under different mixes. (3) ANY YOU LIKE REALLY. HURRICANE #1, KENICKIE, ELTON JOHN, HOT CHOCOLATE, MIDGET, STING (TWICE) AND LOADS MORE REALLY. 13. Who, if we take everything he says literally, does Thom Yorke want to be? (1) JIM MORISSON - IN THE SONG 'ANYONE CAN PLAY GUITAR' 14. Complete the sequence... I?CP?WSHIWMB?MSRSCPNP?CCO?NINCAMGIFC (10) THIS IS, OF COURSE, THE TRACK LISTING FROM KENICKIE'S LP 'AT THE CLUB' WITH JUST THE INITIALS OF EACH TRACK! SO THE MISSING LETTERS ARE: in *Y*our car, people *W*e want, spies, how i was made, brother *J*ohn, millionaire sweeper, robot song, classy, punka, nightlife, p*V*c, come out *2*nite, i never complain, acetone, montrose gimps it up for charity. 15. Name the only duo to have two top 40 mid-price LPs in 1997. (2) OF COURSE IT WAS MARK RADCLIFFE AND THE HAPLESS BOY LARD WHO HAD MID-PRICE HITS WITH THE SHIREHORSES' LP AND THE BEST BITS FROM THE EVENING SHOW. SNEAKY BUT TRUE. 16. "That worm-pie you made me, you made me eat from the butchers" : By whom, and what is it? (2) THE *EXCELLENT* SILVER SUN WITH 'LAVA' - TOP TUNE INDEED. 17. "I stole his shoes and ran away trying jolly hard to see if we could catch him round the bend" : Again - artist and track please. (2) MORE PEOPLE GOT THIS THAN I THOUGHT - STAND UP IF YOU CAN UNASHAMEDLY NAME MENSWE at R'S 'I'LL MANAGE SOMEHOW'. YOU SAD PEOPLE. BUT I WAS THE ONE WHO PUT IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. DAMN ME. 18. Gene's debut single only half appears on the debut album. How and what is it? (2) IT IS 'FOR THE DEAD' AND WAS ONLY ON AN AMERICAN IMPORT OF THE LP 'OLYMPIAN'. HOWEVER IT ALSO APPEARED ON A B-SIDES COMPILATION 'TO SEE THE LIGHTS' IN *TWO* TRACKS, ONE OF THEM THE SECRET TRACK AT THE END AND SO THIS WOULD GET YOU THE MARK TOO. 19. What year was Babies by Pulp released? (2) ORIGINALLY 1992 AS A SINGLE, THEN RE-RELEASED IN 1994 AS A-SIDE ON THE 'SISTERS EP' AND THEN AGAIN IN 1997, AGAIN ON THE 'SISTERS EP' WHEN THE OLD VINTAGE PULP WAS RE-RELEASED. 20. So Make Sure That she's old enough, before.... What? (1) "YOU BLOW YOUR MIND" WOULD GET YOU THE MARK. U16 GIRLS BY TRAVIS. EXCELLENT! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "It's not unusual to be loooved by anyone.." --Tom Jones, the MAN! blowing his sexual bugle in the orchestra of luuurve! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Wed Jan 21 18:26:50 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:26:50 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Perfume Message-ID: <199801211634.QAA29994@gemeos.electus.com.br> > No not the band. The band is ........... crap > All this talk of books involving food and sex reminds me of a book by > Patrick Suskind called 'Perfume'. ....but the book is great ! Do you know Orange Cake Mix ? I think i'm love again...it's not a person..... it's a band ! PLEASE !!!!! Any news about the new B&S album ????????? Ivo A P Escossia escossia at electus.com.br ICQ 5975284 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjs2 at xxx.net Wed Jan 21 19:40:22 1998 From: mjs2 at xxx.net (mathew schwartz) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 14:40:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sinister: le pastie Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980121144022.007c5220@tiac.net> hello all, first time post [bashful backwards step] from Boston ... I think belle, sebastian and the lot are brilliant and I own everything I can get my hands on and can't keep in the blank tapes fast enough to dub them for my friends (who coincidentally all run out and buy everything on CD or vinyl or both so how's that for paying the band back?) but one thing I just can't figure out is .... what the hell does "le pastie" mean? And while we're on that song, I think it's amazing that he can make so many cultural/pop references (Judy Blume et al) and get away w/o sounding like a wee pretentious git. I think that's a first. Okay, back to the day job. [slog, slog] mat --------------------------------------------------------- We seek the teeth to match our wounds. -- Kenneth Tynan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul.Dean at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 20:03:38 1998 From: Paul.Dean at xxx.uk (Paul Dean) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:03:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: WHITEOUT (Perspex or otherwise) NO B&S sorry Message-ID: <01BD26A7.AA4B08C0@pine.druid.co.uk> Whilst having to agree on the utter bobbinsness on Whiteout, I always been intrigued by them , as around '89 i used to like another scottish band called Perspex Whiteout - who were a kind of scuzzy Teenage Fanclub whose finest moment was called 'YoU Turn On My World' - I Could never work out if the members of this band became the woeful Faces copyists. I always hoped not..... Can any of you 'Sweatys' shed any light on this..... Incidentally I've seen Whiteout twice (supporting O*sis & on the really diddy stage from a distance at the Heineken festival in Leeds)Iwhich means I nearly fell wrath to the '3 times rule' with them - which states categorically that if you see a band 3 times you HAVE TO like them - Ooo close shave Thankyou for your attention Paul. -The innocent smell lovely...- >---------- >From: Keith Watson[SMTP:keith at xxx.uk] >Sent: 21 January 1998 06:44 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Re: Sinister: New club night in Edinburgh. > >>Anybody on the list planing to go to the opening night of 'North' on >>Saturday? It's at La Belle Angel in The Cowgate, Edinburgh. Fiver to get >>in, and Whiteout are playing. According to my girlfriend the flyer lists >>Belle & Sebastian as one of the bands they play. Of course, she might just >>be saying that to get me to go. Anyway, I might see some of you there. >> >>The Laird Of East Fountainbridge - I hope this doesn't leave The Egg half >>empty! > > >North, that puts me off given a rather dodgy Sunday night recently in >Manchester that Paul, Julia, Stuart and Susannah will remember. > >Doubt it'll leave the Egg half empty especially if Whiteout are playing mind >you! > >Oh and John, can you mail me Ian Jackson's email address, I've lost it. >Cheers. > >Keith. > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barrym at xxx.net Wed Jan 21 20:10:43 1998 From: barrym at xxx.net (Barry Matthews) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:10:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: A Century of Elvis Message-ID: <34C6563E.FFA9D46@bitwise.net> Does anyone know where I could find a full transcription of the "Century of Elvis" lyrics. I can barely understand what they're going on about*...please help! Barry * I don't know any other Americans who quite have as difficult time as I do trying to understand UK accents. Whenever I rent British flicks (like Trainspotting, Career Girls, etc.) I have to turn the captions on ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 20:30:34 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:30:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: poetry stuff Message-ID: <34C65AEA.F4258272@totalweb.co.uk> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Jan 21 20:46:46 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:46:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Hondarribia Message-ID: <34C65EB5.6EFE88C2@colon.net.> Maite, Envio la traducción en Word 6.0. Espero que no tienes problemas para abrir el archivo. Peter -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Hondacct.doc Type: x-conference/x-cooltalk Size: 17920 bytes Desc: not available URL: From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Wed Jan 21 20:30:16 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:30:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dear David Message-ID: <34C65AD7.F0AE01FB@colon.net.> I object not very strongly to the following things in the FAQs and biography: 1. Can't you say that Tigermilk is worth fifteen hundred quid instead of two hundred? 2. Sarah Martin is listed as playing "novelty instruments". I really don't have to say anything else, do I? 3. The Barcelona sky is full of smog, not stars. "Beneath the gaze of a thousand gargoyles" would be closer to the mark. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Jan 21 21:41:02 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:41:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: A Century of Elvis In-Reply-To: <34C6563E.FFA9D46@bitwise.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, Barry Matthews wrote: > Does anyone know where I could find a full transcription of the "Century > of Elvis" lyrics. I can barely understand what they're going on > about*...please help! Someone posted them ages ago - go to the WWW site below and use Search. This also applies to the Pastie question! Much discussed - search on the WWW site. Honey xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 23:12:54 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:12:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT AIR ALBUM Message-ID: <199801212159.VAA17599@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Hey people Buy NME for 95p Cut out Air woolworths £2 off token buy Air album save £2 read NME throw it away listen to Air thought you'd all like to know Anyone like near the IBM place in Otterbourne...or Hurley? I was there today so I thought I'd ask ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 23:12:53 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:12:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: critically acclaimed? Message-ID: <199801212200.WAA17638@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> NME, undoubtedly the most important music paper in Britain gave IFYS 5/10. Hardly critically acclaimed... not that I agree with NME anyway. They gave Ocean Colour Scene's album 6/10. Go figure?!? thanx for the tigertape offers people Northy ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 23:12:54 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:12:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilch Message-ID: <199801212159.VAA17603@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> I was speaking to someone at a (proper) record shop in Twickenham about the myth of Tigermilk and he said the co-owner of the shop sold it for £5. Er hat eine Fehler gemacht! Spricht jemand Deutsch hier auf der Liste? Ich muß mein Deutsch für mein Arbitur practisieren. Tschuß Nordy ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul.Dean at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 22:36:16 1998 From: Paul.Dean at xxx.uk (Paul Dean) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:36:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hondarribia Message-ID: <01BD26BC.FD3666F0@pine.druid.co.uk> Top read Peter I never knew Hondarribia had so much to offer- the holy week procession sounds like a good old fashioned laugh erm - good job you don't work for MI6 Later Paul > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Wed Jan 21 22:32:27 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:32:27 GMT Subject: Sinister: Tag in total twat shocker Message-ID: <34c776c5.15037110@email.mcmail.com> Ha! He`s in the bath and for once I`ve managed to get my hands on his `laptop`. Apparently, all you fools are taken in by his pathetic cocky swagger, and so, as his flatmate of 18 *long* months (I'M NOT GAY), I feel it is my duty to tell the whole disgusting truth about the boy Robert. 1 FRAUD: He always goes on about how he is half Scottish,but he neglects to mention that he is also half Stoke-ish.And he was born in Birmingham. 2 MIDGET: He takes size 4 (FOUR) shoes and has to buy them from the childrens department.Yuk. Not to mention the hideous ginger hair. Twat. 3 POOF: He supports Manchester City, not for the love of the team,but because blue is his favourite colour. 4 WANKER: Sometimes,when I`m late leaving the house for work,he surprises me by still being in the living room and shouts joyfully `Alright Squire?!` 5 EXHIBITIONIST: When he has a bath, he always leaves the door open, hoping that I`ll walk in on him soaping himself (and his sinister feet) in his Body Shop Strawberry Body Balm. 6 HARINGAY: To make more `friends` on the list, he contemplated calling himself `The Earl of Chorltonville`. 7 STUDENT: He has a picture of Steve Lamacq on the living room wall-and refuses to remove it. 8 DEVIANT: He really fancies Emmy-Kate from Kenickie and Manda-Rin from Bis. He is also partial to hairy armpits and sweat. So there`s still hope for all you `lovely ladies`out there (if you don`t mind a slight itch for a while.) 9 CHILD: He insists on using words like `boobs` and `willy` when any real man uses words like 'tits' and 'cock'. 10 DAILY MAIL READER: He really loves `gentle` sit-coms of a sunday evening,like `You rang M`Lud` and `Oh, Dr. Beeching`. 11 IRRITATING: I can hear him snore from 3 rooms away, and sometimes it even wakes me up. 12 LANDLORD: He charges me £35 rent a week, although, after this, I don`t think I`ll need to worry about that anymore. Bye, Julian.(The one who played The Sea Urchins.) xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 23:06:23 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 98 23:06:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: North/Keith's affliction Message-ID: <199801212304.XAA25939@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >North is run by the same guy as Madchester (but nothing to do with FBI, as >far as I know). My girlfriend knows the bloke who runs it, and says he's a >really nice bloke. No big business thang going on there, apparantly. > > >John S. Madchester guy works for Eddie of Events Armoury - (the promoter of FBI). This was a fact the last time we got some flyers printed up with their help. Madchester guy may have a partner in the North thing. It is probably a Madchester (not FBI) spin-off. However, they are interlinked in all manner of ways. It's insidious, disturbing but true. >"OLE is a unified environment of object-based >services with the capability of both customizing those services and >arbitrarily extending the architecture throuw custom services, with the >overall purpose of enabling rich integration between components". Cool eh! >Ooooohh Goooodd Heellllp mee... Poor, Poor Keith I'm trying to brush up my QuarkXpress skills with the help of some manuals at the mo' - hardly as in-depth, but more than enough to have tons of sympathy for our OLE-afflicted friend. Aren't we all beginning to sound a bit nerdy regarding these electronic boxes we're feverishly tapping away at? Yesterday I wrote: >ARGHHHHHHH! Somebody's nicked me LLPJ! - sob, sob. >looks like it'll have to wait while I do some detective work. It still hasn't turned up and I'm getting dead worried I'll have to go buy another, which would be good for the band tho' not so good for me! The Laird of East Fountainbridge (LLPJ-less). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From at xxx. Wood) Wed Jan 21 00:05:44 1998 From: at xxx. Wood) ( at xxx. Wood)) Date: 21 Jan 1998 00:05:44 GMT Subject: Sinister: Matador Press Release Message-ID: <3293773822.426340483@andyclin.exnet.com> Telepathic Traffic,muellerj at ucsub.colorado.edu,Internet writes: there is NO talk of a Tigermilk re-release. Does anyone know if the band actually still like the Tigermilk LP? Listening to how their songwriting and recordings have progressed over the last two years, it wouldn't surprise me if they thought that they'd moved on, and that putting newer stuff out was more important than a reissue. Cheers Rocker, P.S. I have an audience DAT of the Manchester Saturday gig, I'd like to get other live tapes, especially Oxford or Union Chapel, so will happily trade copies on cassette or Minidisk. Also does anyone have a decent copy of the first Radcliffe session? rocker at andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Jan 22 00:10:35 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:10:35 GMT Subject: Sinister: Room to let In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <34c681cc.17860414@email.mcmail.com> It has come to my attention that Julian Fuckface wrote: >Ha! > >He`s in the bath and for once I`ve managed to get my hands on his >`laptop`. Apparently, all you fools are taken in by his pathetic cocky >swagger, and so, as his flatmate of 18 *long* months (I'M NOT GAY), I >feel it is my duty to tell the whole disgusting truth about the boy >Robert. Of course, none of you believe this, do you? >1 FRAUD: He always goes on about how he is half Scottish,but he >neglects to mention that he is also half Stoke-ish.And he was born in >Birmingham. That's no secret. >2 MIDGET: He takes size 4 (FOUR) shoes and has to buy them from >the childrens department.Yuk. See, I'm cute... >Not to mention the hideous ginger hair. Twat. For this read, my beautiful golden locks. >3 POOF: He supports Manchester City, not for the love of the >team, but because blue is his favourite colour. It's actually because Kinkladze's got nice buns. >4 WANKER: Sometimes,when I`m late leaving the house for work,he >surprises me by still being in the living room and shouts joyfully >`Alright Squire?!` Oh fuck off. >5 EXHIBITIONIST: When he has a bath, he always leaves the door >open, hoping that I`ll walk in on him soaping himself (and his >sinister feet) in his Body Shop Strawberry Body Balm. My, what a vivid imagination. >6 HARINGAY: To make more `friends` on the list, he contemplated >calling himself `The Earl of Chorltonville`. What can this mean? I don't understand. >7 STUDENT: He has a picture of Steve Lamacq on the living room >wall-and refuses to remove it. Very true, no-one wears DMs and says 'whoop' with quite the same finesse as our favourite indie-guru. >8 DEVIANT: He really fancies Emmy-Kate from Kenickie and >Manda-Rin from Bis. He is also partial to hairy armpits and sweat. You're saying this like it's a bad thing....and you forgot leather trousers. >9 CHILD: He insists on using words like `boobs` and `willy` >when any real man uses words like 'tits' and 'cock'. Poo-hole. >10 DAILY MAIL READER: He really loves `gentle` sit-coms of a >sunday evening,like `You rang M`Lud` and `Oh, Dr. Beeching`. Now that one really hurts. >11 IRRITATING: I can hear him snore from 3 rooms away, Only to drown out the sound of vomiting from the bathroom. >and sometimes it even wakes me up. ... disturbs your nocturnal fantasies, you mean. >12 LANDLORD: He charges me £35 rent a week, although, after >this, I don`t think I`ll need to worry about that anymore. I think you may be right. Anyone want to take him off my hands, he's housetrained, well, after a fashion ... and if you don't mind a drunken fool singing along with Lovejoy's rendition of 'Avalon' at 4 a.m., practically crying (like a girl) when his beloved Port Vale sold his favourite player - winger 'Super' John McCarthy, telling you repeatedly about his copy of Tigermilk .... he'll be in a cardboard box by Chorlton Street Bus Station, near the prostitutes, as always. And like Paul 'Gary Glitter' Mitchell, he's *very* fond of children. Yours, living alone at last, Tag ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 03:07:01 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:07:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: longpigs secret song and table-dancing Message-ID: <199801220307.WAA14356@Vector.inexpress.net> Well Hello hello! >Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:26:28 -0500 (EST) >From: baggy trousers >Subject: Sinister: NB&SC- longpigs >i love this song! its the 4th track on the 'on and on' single..i was >hoping to that they would play it when i saw them n concert, but no..it >wasnt to be..i saw them with treble charger and the dandy warhols and they >were by far the best of the bill..could also be because i fell asleep >during the dandy's set.. > >roberta Oh...you're lucky to have Longpigs singles..apparently they 'don't exist' around here....yes...Terry...just like NONE of the singles I order exist....I wish they would play it as concerts,but I'd probably just faint there at the spot and my only hope would be to be revived by longpiggy...I love this song too...! I met the Dandy's once...it wasn't the best experience of my life...(me: "Wow,thank you so much,can you sign my cd please? Thanks *laughing* I'm not a groupie" Courtney: yeah sure that's what they ALL say. me: oh... peter: Yeah..are you SURE you're not a groupie) then they went off with their funny pants to get food or something..and I sat on the curb seeing if I could get in (it was a free show..you think that would mean EVERYBODY) and this nice lady who asked me to call her mother told me she knew the owner and could get me in....yeah...hours later and I'm still out there with the pigeons...but I DID get a picture with Dandy's,I'm going to put it in my fanzine.... >Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 14:07:02 -0000 >From: Adrian Evans >Subject: Sinister: Cottage Cheese / Voodoo. > >I feel anything but lovely, but thanks all the same. Oh..feel better! >Poast ? Is this a cross between a letter and a lightly cooked slice of = >bread I TOLD you all I was sleepy.... >Which reminds me, I was reading the daily mirror (for US counterparts, = >that's the Beano for adults) the other day and there was one of those = >humorous little snippets about a postman who opened his postbox, and out = >fell a varnished piece of toast with an address and a stamp on it. So = >if any of you are tempted to move to England, this is the kind of = >twattish nonsense we do for kicks. but I do so love you guys nonsense! Never lose it >>bounce....but then it was all James Spader movies..'Dreamlover' >>hmmmmm...what can I say about it?And how come James Spader is always = >>the stud mouffin in movies..... > >I feel a nervous breakdown coming on. 'Dreamlover' it can do that to you...ohhhh....it wasn't...THAT...bad..... >>dream just a little while ago though..a balloon carried me away to some >>lovely sand dunes where the Longpigs just HAPPENED to be (convienantly) >>louging about. > >I think your just trying to wind me up ! I don't understand,I am winding you up? It was a rather nice dream in fact,I have lotta of nice dreams and senarios in fact...there's the one where I look up..and then cute record boy is looking up..and suddenly starts singing Belle and Sebastian and doing little motions to the song...then,magically,whoops,the lights in the store suddenly dim..and THEN... ("Genevieve we don't want to hear any more!") well I also have a bus one too....but those are just senarios,the Longpigs one WAS a dream! >Perhaps you could cadge a lift over with Richard Branson next time he = >attempts his balloon dooberry and float across to Bonnie Scotland and = >meet the dreamboy himself....on second thoughts you'll probably be = >forced to ditch mid-atlantic. You know how much I would love that!Actually in the dream the ballon they gave me was because I won 'The Easiest Race In England' that's pretty sad isn't it! >Help !?!?!?!?!?! > >Adrian. What do you need help with,dear Adrian? bye bye you lil' dolls! ;) Genevieve xoxo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 03:07:42 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:07:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: bits 'n bites Message-ID: <199801220307.WAA14374@Vector.inexpress.net> >Date: Mon, 19 Jan 98 19:52:32 GMT >From: susannah >Subject: Sinister: Photoshop Phantasies >Theres me getting off a train, with Stuart David waiting for me on the platform, >I've come to visit him between the holidays, but why is he wearing my Dads >trousers? He looks a bit porky too, all of a sudden. *squeeaaaaaaaal!* trousers,no trousers or dad's trousers,he's just fine. >My plan! We all had fun and games meeting up at Manchester oui? >Do you want to meet up again! >Because, guess which iconoclast is playing at the manchester Nynex... : >TOM JONES! So many many conerts for you all to see,I am still stuck with Old Man Withers,the only show round here....We have a little dirt road....and not many people live on it,but whenever I go fro a walk,the little hut by the ice rink he always there.("Honey! Want me to buy you some beer? I'm building an Arc! I'm Noah!") >I'm going to go and see Sppiceworld soon. That is if I'm allowed out of >the house... I am seeing that this friday..don't tease! But I don't know,I will probably end up between the girl who spies on the boy-with-girlfriend in front of her and whispers every little thing he does and the furry cuffs boy...I can always slip away to the record store...! MMmmm.....record store.... >oooh Geniveveveveveve come and cheer everyone up :-) >I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! >Sarah I would love to,but how? I don't even usually get to go on the computer right now,but I'm being a sneaky little bug.I'm already embarrased enough today,first I had to dance in front of my English teacher...It was all very degrading and now what started as a joke 'Hey you sexy thang' to this guy named Buck is just getting more and more odd....BUT,the S.D lookalikey was absolutey precious today.*siiiigh!* >The as-yet-untitled follow-up to If You're Feeling Sinister will be >released this Spring, to be followed in the fall by a compilation of three >EPs previously unavailable in the US. The band will be returning to the US >in 1998 for select live dates. Oh please play Ottawa as Montreal is too far away! Will they be playing all-ages shows,I don't want to sit on the curb again......the pigeons....and the man who talks to the tree....no....I would love to actually be IN a venue some time....feeeeelings....woah-woah..feelings..... kiss kiss,darling darling, luvvv Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 11:19:32 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 98 03:19:32 PST Subject: Sinister: senseless drivel Message-ID: hey. listen up. i gots a question to ask of, well, whoever knows the answer. a friend made me a tape of some stuff and there was these two songs on it and when i asked him who it was he said he didn't know and that someone taped it for him without telling him. it sounded english. and pop. mid 80's maybe. one of kept saying: "i know someone who knows someone who knows alan mcgee quite well" and the other was talking of how he had everything by a certain band "on tape". who can enlighten me on who this is and if they're any good? -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 08:49:51 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (PM - AU) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:49:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Apology Message-ID: <34C7082F.2FF66315@colon.net.> Sorry everybody for sending the wrong thing to the wrong address. It's my new Belle and Sebastian working method, the living embodiment of the Fuck Shit Up philosophy. What's more, I lose my brownie points for sending it off early. Oh well, hay que joderse. i think this B&S list is becoming too much of a habit for me. Hang my head in shame and dress as a penitent all day. Sorry again, Peter, Our lady of the Strange Behaviour ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From vegus at xxx.no Thu Jan 22 09:49:48 1998 From: vegus at xxx.no (Stein Vegusdal) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:49:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: senseless drivel Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980122104947.0095e3d0@mail.a.sol.no> At 03:19 AM 1/22/98 PST, Brad wrote: >hey. >listen up. i gots a question to ask of, well, whoever knows the answer. >a friend made me a tape of some stuff and there was these two songs on it and when i asked him who it was he said he didn't know and that someone taped it for him without telling him. >it sounded english. and pop. mid 80's maybe. > >one of kept saying: >"i know someone who knows someone who knows alan mcgee quite well" > >and the other was talking of how he had everything by a certain band "on tape". > >who can enlighten me on who this is and if they're any good? > The songs on the tape are by welsh band The Pooh Sticks. "I know someone who knows someone who knows Alan McGee quite well" and "On Tape" are from a box set of singles released in june 1988 on Fierce Records. It was released as a one sided album (with some very nice engravings on the B-side!) in august the same year. Apparently the female members of the band had a huge fascination for Stephen Pastel: on the cover of the album it says "Dear Stephen Pastel, will you have sex with me?". And yes, they were quite good... Stein >-brad > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > +------------------------------+-----------------------------+ | JOBB | PRIVAT | | mailto:vegus at a.sol.no | mailto:vegus at online.no | | http://www.sol.no/ | mobil: +47 - 91 62 56 55 | | telephone: +47 - 22 58 38 04 | telefon: +47 - 22 35 76 26 | | telefax: +47 - 22 02 09 77 | Pers.søk: 96 52 55 74 | +------------------------------+-----------------------------+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Thu Jan 22 09:52:55 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:52:55 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Pooh Sticks (was: senseless drivel) Message-ID: <199801220952.KAA00952@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Bradford wrote ... >listen up. i gots a question to ask of, well, whoever knows the answer. >a friend made me a tape of some stuff and there was these two songs on it and when i asked him who it was he said he didn't know and that someone taped it for him without telling him. >it sounded english. and pop. mid 80's maybe. > >one of kept saying: >"i know someone who knows someone who knows alan mcgee quite well" > >and the other was talking of how he had everything by a certain band "on tape". Not a certain band, though. >who can enlighten me on who this is and if they're any good? Early Pooh Sticks, the preferable "live" versions of both tunes can be found on the marvellous _Orgasm_ LP (UK/53rd & 3rd Records AGAMC 05/'89) or the _Multiple Orgasm_ CD (UK/Fierce Fright 47 CD/'91) ... besides, the CD features the songs from the cancelled _Multiple Orgasm_ 7" boxed set recorded at the same time and unavailable elsewhere. Other recommended purchases are the _Formula One Generation_ LP/CD and _The Great White Wonder_ LP/CD. "Foxy boy" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jkral at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 06:06:09 1998 From: jkral at xxx.net (jaysen kralovetz) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 00:06:09 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Le Pastie... Message-ID: <199801220606.WAA14546@mailtod-113.bryant.webtv.net> Out of curiousity, does anyone else think that "La Pastie De La Bourgeoisie" sounds a wee bit like "(Theme From) The Monkees"??? Maybe I am insane, or maybe it's these drugs I'm on (for medical reasons, thank you). Jaysen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 10:00:59 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:00:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Matador Press Release Message-ID: <01bd271c$a3968480$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Does anyone know if the band actually still like the Tigermilk LP? Listening >to how their songwriting and recordings have progressed over the last two >years, it wouldn't surprise me if they thought that they'd moved on, and that >putting newer stuff out was more important than a reissue. Chris and Mick still rate it as the best thing they've done, as I would too really, so it's a bit of an arse that the right honourable Mr.Murdoch continues to deny people listening to it... hmm who knows having said that, tricky question, he did write it, suppose it is up to him. I'd guess that it's basically down to the ridiculous interest in the band that having an unavailable LP produces. The new stuff sounds better than If you're feeling sinister mind you. Something odd struck me regarding B+S the other day, in that when If you're feeling sinister came out, it was like one of the best bands in ages had released 2 LP's in 6 months which was amazing, however since then, hardly a new song in sight, what are they playing at! Cheers, Keith. Just ranting really, sorry, hungover again. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 09:53:03 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 09:53:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: WHITEOUT (Perspex or otherwise) NO B&S sorry Message-ID: <01bd271b$8828d6e0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Whilst having to agree on the utter bobbinsness on Whiteout, I always >been intrigued by them , as around '89 i used to like another scottish >band called Perspex Whiteout - who were a kind of scuzzy Teenage Fanclub >whose finest moment was called 'YoU Turn On My World' - I Could never >work out if the members of this band became the woeful Faces copyists. I >always hoped not..... That's the same question I asked a friend of mine a few years ago, the answer was no, which is what you'd like to believe, so I'm going with that. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 10:16:35 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:16:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Air, and Brad's question Message-ID: <199801221012.KAA23522@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Brad wrote: >it sounded english. and pop. mid 80's maybe. >one of kept saying: >"i know someone who knows someone who knows alan mcgee quite well" >and the other was talking of how he had everything by a certain band "on tape". >who can enlighten me on who this is and if they're any good? That'll have been the Pooh Sticks, Brad, and no, they're shite. They moved from being utterly ignored snivelling cutie court jesters (round about 87 time) to learning how to play their instruments and becoming utterly ignored. Ugh. Everyone in the world wrote: >The Air album's brilliant Yep, it must be manna from heaven to all those of you who still mourn the passing into obscurity of Jean Michell Jarre, and who love their music without any hint of emotional involvement, or funk. Hooray. Unremitting negativity abounds. I'm going to go to see the Pastels tonight in Preston and I'm determined to have a shitty time. :-) Tootle pip Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 10:24:51 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:24:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: No Dream Content Message-ID: <01BD271F.FA076520@pc07628> I think t'was Genevieve Wrote : >Oh..feel better! T'is all this talk of dreams and sleep my little dear. As previously posted, I am an insomniac......My doctor kindly gives me tranqs to make me sleep, but they are highly addictive and I am not allowed to take them for long periods of time. >I TOLD you all I was sleepy.... And you wonder why you were winding me up !! >but I do so love you guys nonsense! Never lose it. No chance of that. It's even worse in Devon......we're STRANGE ! And no-doubt it will get even worse with Britains contribution to the world.....BSE....MOOOOOOOOWIBBLEWIBBLEMOOOOOO !!! >'Dreamlover' it can do that to you...ohhhh....it wasn't...THAT...bad..... I was more concerned about the constant mention of sleep and dreams...it's all very stressful. I don't actually know the film....whoops ! >I don't understand,I am winding you up? It was a rather nice dream in fact,I >have lotta of nice dreams and senarios in fact...there's the one where I >look up..and then cute record boy is looking up..and suddenly starts singing >Belle and Sebastian and doing little motions to the >song...then,magically,whoops,the lights in the store suddenly dim..and >THEN... ("Genevieve we don't want to hear any more!") well I also have a bus >one too....but those are just senarios,the Longpigs one WAS a dream! Concern yourself not my lovely, If anyone is doing the winding up it is me. Sleepless nights, then seven and a half hours accountancy the following day tend to make you somewhat tetchy. I am sorry to disappoint you but in a moment of madness I purchased the longpigs album...it now sits in a NIKE shoebox with all the other Cd's that I don't think i'll ever listen to again. >You know how much I would love that!Actually in the dream the ballon they >gave me was because I won 'The Easiest Race In England' that's pretty sad >isn't it! Not at all..."Come to England, call yourself King Charles the III, nobody will notice, nobody will be alarmed....There is no constitution". -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aida at xxx.es Thu Jan 22 10:29:20 1998 From: aida at xxx.es (AIDA) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:29:20 +0100 (CET) Subject: Sinister: Siniestro Message-ID: Hola gente! Me gustaria saber si hay algun castellano/catalanohablante apuntado a esta lista de correos, mas que nada para corroborrar que el directo de B&S en el BAM de Barcelona estuvo de puta madre y ya de paso, suplicar que alguien me grabe los EPs y el Tigermilk ya que no los encuentro por ningun lado. Muchisimas gracias, nos vemos en el Biarritz! Alberto Perez, AIDA, UPC ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 10:37:55 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (0891 505050) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:37:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: critically acclaimed? In-Reply-To: <199801212200.WAA17638@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 21 Jan 1998, northy wrote: > NME, undoubtedly the most important music paper in Britain Up against stiff competition > gave > IFYS 5/10. > > Hardly critically acclaimed... Remember that that's not "NME"'s opinion, but the opinion of ONE of their writers. Mark Sutherland, editor of Melody Maker, made "Never Ever" by All Saints his single of the year. Doesn't mean it's company policy. > not that I agree with NME anyway. They gave Ocean Colour Scene's > album 6/10. Go figure?!? You think that's too high or too low? Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Terry Scott, Bill Maynard, Wilfred Brambell, Carmel McSharry and | The Krankies join Ted Rogers and Dusty Bin. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jacques.buron at xxx.fr Thu Jan 22 11:43:20 1998 From: jacques.buron at xxx.fr (Stéphane) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:43:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: arab strap Message-ID: <34C730D8.F0E@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Could anyone tell me what "arab strap" means???? Thanks! Stéphane -- " Get me away from here, I'm dying..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 10:56:43 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 10:56:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Top of the morning to you. Message-ID: <01BD2724.6DF94300@pc07628> David wrote : >hey all belle and sebastian fans!! >anyone from n.ireland?? >if so, please get back to me. >i am david o reilly, im 19 and at queens uni, belfast. >im a pretty new bas fan, but absolutely fucking love if your >feeling sinister. i also love radiohead, spiritualized, primal >cream and rem, and am obsessed by homer j simpson. >please please please reply!! i want to talk to you people!! I spent my whole extended 2 hour lunch break yesterday looking for a Homer Simpson mug, cos i broke my mug at work.....could I find one ? Arse ! I did however come back with Ted Hughes new book "Birthday Letters" and on first glance would recommend it to any of you poetry lovers. I too love Homer, and am doing my upmost to model my middle-life on him. Doh! -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 11:07:42 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:07:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: arab strap Message-ID: <199801221039.KAA27508@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> I would, but I'm shy.... I did once think it was some kind of Molasses, until a friend of mine, erm, put me straight... xx John >---------- >From: Stephane[SMTP:jacques.buron at xxx.fr] >Sent: 22 Jan 1998 11:43 >To: Belle & Sebastian >Subject: Sinister: arab strap > >Could anyone tell me what "arab strap" means???? > >Thanks! > >Stephane >-- >" Get me away from here, I'm dying..." >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 11:27:55 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:27:55 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Thin Air Content Message-ID: <01BD2728.C9535A20@pc07628> Northy wrote : >Hey people >Buy NME for 95p >Cut out Air woolworths =A32 off token >buy Air album >save =A32 >read NME >throw it away > >listen to Air >thought you'd all like to know Hows about...... Buy NME....95p, Dont cut out Air woolworths token as there's probably something more interesting to read on reverse. Don't buy Air album....save some 12 pounds. Read NME. Use as toilet paper, thus saving several pounds on Andrex. God we're all opinionated gits ! -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Karine.Poivey at xxx.fr Thu Jan 22 13:00:16 1998 From: Karine.Poivey at xxx.fr (Karine Alexandra Poivey) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:00:16 MET Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #33 In-Reply-To: <199801220258.CAA13152@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <12F9AD34DA@cipcinsa.insa-lyon.fr> > what the hell does "le pastie" mean? > It doesn't mean anything in french.According to the official site (and one of the videos apparently but I didn't see then-are they broadcast on some french TV ? ) "Le pastie de la bourgeoisie" is a graffiti they found on a bakery in Glasgow.And they think the one who had wrote it thought it means "bakery" in french.But it doesn't. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Anna_Chapman at xxx.com Thu Jan 22 12:21:53 1998 From: Anna_Chapman at xxx.com (Anna_Chapman at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:21:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New! Message-ID: <80256594.0043AB42.00@globalsmtp.idg.com> Hi to everyone recieving this from a newcoming to the list and a fairly newcomer to B+S. I started listening to them in about September and so far all I have been able to locate to but is 369 seconds of light, Lazy painter Jane and if you're feeling sinister. I'm anxious to aquire some more of their stuff. Can anyone help me with titles or places that might stock it. Thanks. Anna. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Thu Jan 22 12:19:10 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 12:19:10 GMT Subject: Sinister: Indie clubs. No B&S Message-ID: Ah the good old indie clubs of Edinburgh. Does FBI still exist? I spent many a wondrous teenage weekend dancing along to the delights of Wheres me jumper etc. Another query, How about the status of Evol, now there was a good Indie club, I don't think I've ever found anything quite like it. Actually I'll compliment one of our listees by saying that the egg is porbably the best I've been to since. I think I'm actually getting nostagic about being sixteen, no that was when I used to go to Katch, the less said about that the better. Oh I'll put a bit of B&S content in here. Isn't La pastie... a great tune? Ciao, Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 11:30:25 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 11:30:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: arab strap Message-ID: <01bd2729$220de400$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> -----Original Message----- From: Johnston, John CT To: 'Belle & Sebastian' Date: 22 January 1998 11:18 Subject: RE: Sinister: arab strap >I would, but I'm shy.... I did once think it was some kind of Molasses, >until a friend of mine, erm, put me straight... > >xx >John Yeah... don't ask your mum I think is the answer :) Keith ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jparker at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 13:24:07 1998 From: jparker at xxx.uk (paradiso) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:24:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jules et Tag Message-ID: <34C74877.4FB20E23@nep.co.uk> ah, it's so undignified isn't it readers? ... a relationship breaking up in public, and on the internet of all things.... how post-modern, why, it's all we ever talk about here in the bistros of Puerto Vehlo. (there's little else to do to be honest, short of scamming tourists and playing strip tennis with the younger residents of the Bordello) I remember the days, before my indiscretions forced me overseas, ( i thought it was a cello string.... it was dark in the Union Chapel...) when Julian and Tag used to be such a happy couple, strolling arm in arm around IKEA of a Sunday morning, feeding each other ice-cream on the steps of the Town Hall before the Sunday matinee, arguing over who had the most glitter on their home-made magic wands.... and who could forget those fabulous tea parties on the summer lawns of Chorlton Towers, Tag merrily playing mother whilst Julian would sit and plait ribbons into the tails of passing cats (a ruggedly handsome tomcat named Gareth, and a rather over-fed mouser called Janet) humming their favourite Sarah b-sides to each other.... I'm sure all fellow, ahem, sinistereans, will join me in expressing my deepest regrets that something once pure has to fizzle out and die via such a cold and vulgar medium..... I must leave you now... my houseboy, the bloody idiot, is taking the sting from a gin, and those damn cicadas are starting up their nightly deaths' rattle. Goodnight Juan de Paradiso oh, and Tag, .... just a quiet word.... before dissing the Vale, remember that the Burslem Young Team know where you live.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Thu Jan 22 13:26:32 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:26:32 GMT Subject: Sinister: re: Jimi Tenor Message-ID: Tag is absolutely correct Jimi Tenor is God. The first time I saw him was in the Highly respected NME tent at T in the park. Who else could place such a man in a slot at 3pm devoid of the sleaze and splendour of darkness. But instead we listened in the light and then marvelled at his coolness walking around the site wearing sunglasses as it was about to rain. I loved it. I wish to see him again. Oh come to Dublin Jimi!!!!! Thanks for your wasted time, Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 13:57:25 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 98 13:57:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Pooh Sticks/Arab Pervs Message-ID: <199801221355.NAA04629@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >>and the other was talking of how he had everything by a certain band "on >>tape". >>who can enlighten me on who this is and if they're any good? > >Early Pooh Sticks, the preferable "live" versions of both tunes can be found >on the marvellous _Orgasm_ LP (UK/53rd & 3rd Records AGAMC 05/'89) or the 'Orgasm' also came out on tasty pink vinyl, with the legend "Don't Fuck us we'll Fuck You" printed on the middle of each side. >>Could anyone tell me what "arab strap" means???? >I would, but I'm shy.... I did once think it was some kind of Molasses, >until a friend of mine, erm, put me straight... I'm not shyŠŠ An Arab Strap is a device used to maintain a man's erection during intercourse. Putting it straight is exactly what it does. This makes Arab Strap (the band) a saucy bunch of geezers and is the source of all their powers ;-). Yet more useless information, The Laird of East Fountainbridge (LLPJ-less) "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 13:25:39 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 13:25:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: And now for the birthdays Paladin Message-ID: <01bd2739$3b69cad0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> It doesn't mean anything in french.According to the official site (and one of the videos apparently but I didn't see then-are they broadcast on some french TV ? ) "Le pastie de la bourgeoisie" is a graffiti they found on a bakery in Glasgow.And they think the one who had wrote it thought it means "bakery" in french.But it doesn't. This seems to be a weird mix up of previous posts is it not... The band claim it's supposed to be "The Apathy of the Upper Class" or something, and didn't Mr.Murdoch spray it himself at Glen Michael's cartoon cavalcade underground station and the baker bit... was this not just having a laugh with "le pastie de la boulangerie" and stuff... Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 14:41:36 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (Grannys' Fannies) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:41:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #33 In-Reply-To: <12F9AD34DA@cipcinsa.insa-lyon.fr> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Karine Alexandra Poivey wrote: > It doesn't mean anything in french.According to the official site > (and one of the videos apparently but I didn't see then-are they > broadcast on some french TV ? ) "Le pastie de la bourgeoisie" is a > graffiti they found on a bakery in Glasgow.And they think the one who > had wrote it thought it means "bakery" in french.But it doesn't. Best graffiti I ever saw in Glesga was "My Ma Says Kill The Gyres", which I have to admit is a sentiment I can fully appreciate. Although their T-shirts were quite nice. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Yabbadynamics: n. Propulsive force that enables Fred Flintsone to | power a stone automobile with just his feet ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 14:49:07 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (PO Box 200 Camden Lock London NW1 8TQ) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:49:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Embra Indie clubs. No B&S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 29 Aug 1956, Claire Timmins wrote: ^^^^^^^^^^^ Planning on beating the Millenium Bug, are we? > Ah the good old indie clubs of Edinburgh. Does FBI still exist? Yep, although it is no longer in the splendour of Moray House Union (#1.50 a pint ) and is now in The Jaffa Cake (cashy[1] central). I just saw a poster advertising their fifth birthday. > I spent > many a wondrous teenage weekend dancing along to the delights of Wheres me > jumper etc. Another query, How about the status of Evol, now there was a > good Indie club, I don't think I've ever found anything quite like it. Still going at the gorgeously refurbished "Liquid Rooms" (formerly The Music Box). My fave, and the closest I have to a regular haunt. Just a shame the drink's so f---ing pricey. Not like Madchester at La Belle Angele last week - Cider for One Pound a pint -- they know how to run an indie disco! > Oh I'll put a bit of B&S content in here. Isn't La pastie... a great tune? B & who?[2] Rod. [1] Cashy as in Casual, not as in Money-y. You know, the people you see in USC. [2] Block & Quaile, fact fans! Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Reyulerate: v. To reposition Christmas tree lights so no two of the | same colour are beside each other ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 14:50:14 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (This is a lie) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:50:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: arab strap In-Reply-To: <34C730D8.F0E@smtp.wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, St�phane wrote: > Could anyone tell me what "arab strap" means???? It's something you use to stop you falling off a camel. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Muffinlust: n. The slightly illicit feeling one experiences when | undressing a cupcake ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 14:51:54 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (Does anyone read these things?) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:51:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Thin Air Content In-Reply-To: <01BD2728.C9535A20@pc07628> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Adrian Evans wrote: > Hows about...... > Buy NME....95p, > Dont cut out Air woolworths token as there's probably something more interesting to read on reverse. > Don't buy Air album....save some 12 pounds. > Read NME. > Use as toilet paper, thus saving several pounds on Andrex. Hows about... Buy Beano....42p, Cut out chain of paper men. Be happy. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 21 years old, and I still enjoy spinning round on swivel chairs ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 14:53:49 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (eibgeB doR) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:53:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Matador Press Release In-Reply-To: <01bd271c$a3968480$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > Chris and Mick still rate it as the best thing they've done, as I would too > really, so it's a bit of an arse that the right honourable Mr.Murdoch When I first read this, I wondered what Rupert had to do with it. > Something odd struck me regarding B+S the other day, in that when If you're > feeling sinister came out, it was like one of the best bands in ages had > released 2 LP's in 6 months which was amazing, however since then, hardly a > new song in sight, what are they playing at! What's all the stuff on these EPs then? The State I'm In is the closest they've had to recycling material (apart from the Century Ofs) Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message is respectfully dedicated to Mr Elias Howe who, in 1847, | invented the sewing machine. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 14:53:57 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 14:53:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Indie is a four letter word Message-ID: <01bd2745$914d4970$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> > Ah the good old indie clubs of Edinburgh. Does FBI still exist? I spent >many a wondrous teenage weekend dancing along to the delights of Wheres me >jumper etc. Another query, How about the status of Evol, now there was a >good Indie club, I don't think I've ever found anything quite like it. >Actually I'll compliment one of our listees by saying that the egg is >porbably the best I've been to since. > I think I'm actually getting nostagic about being sixteen, no that was >when I used to go to Katch, the less said about that the better. > Oh I'll put a bit of B&S content in here. Isn't La pastie... a great tune? > Ciao, > Claire. You serious? Evol... shite more like. The only times I've ever wound up at Evol's when absolutely nothing else is on. In all seriousness mind, I don't know when you were last there but Mr.Mellotte's turned it into a money making proposition, so it's no longer the club it used to be anyway really, it's when the top of the original playlist : Sonic Youth, Mudhoney became... Blur, Oasis That kind of gave it away. I used to quite enjoy FBI, although I haven't been since summer 1993 and everyone tells me it's complete arse now. I've been to Madchester a couple of times, and frankly it seems a bit weird. It started off Madchester like, which was a nice kind of nostalgia trip, but wound up not really being Madchester at all, just another indie club really, which is a shame, cause you go wanting to hear records that you haven't heard for years and you thought you hated anyway, and when the dust settles years on, you find yourself going "Sing LSD" out loud and sutff. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Thu Jan 22 15:22:43 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:22:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: graff, not steffi. Message-ID: I'm sure there was also some other anti-gyres stuff. Like The Gyres must die...their hair. Never saw their tee-shirts but was never too fussed. Bye bye, bye bye. Claire, ever so slightly bored as can probably be seen by amount of mails sent to the list today... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Thu Jan 22 15:24:59 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:24:59 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: arab strap Message-ID: <199801221524.QAA25434@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> John Johnston wrote ... >>I would, but I'm shy.... I did once think it was some kind of Molasses, >>until a friend of mine, erm, put me straight... The band name was probably inspired by the working title of the B&S debut album, namely _Cock Fun_ ... and if that doesn't give you any idea you wouldn't want to know about a proper explanation anyway. "She was into S&M and bible studies Not everyone's cup of tea she would admit to me" What's wrong with being into Stuart Murdoch anyway ? "World weary and wise" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 15:25:31 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:25:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&SC Message-ID: B&S anyone? Hands up everyone in Iceland who wants to hear about the Edinburgh club scene. Honey still loves you all xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Thu Jan 22 15:31:21 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 15:31:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Embra Indie clubs. No B&S In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Planning on beating the Millenium Bug, are we? Don't ask. I've just been getting shit from people claiming to be recieving messages from me sent in 1956. I swear it werent me guv. >Yep, although it is no longer in the splendour of Moray House Union (#1.50 >a pint ) and is now in The Jaffa Cake (cashy[1] central). I just >saw a poster advertising their fifth birthday. Surely FBI is older than that? >Still going at the gorgeously refurbished "Liquid Rooms" (formerly The >Music Box). My fave, and the closest I have to a regular haunt. Just a >shame the drink's so f---ing pricey. Not like Madchester at La Belle >Angele last week - Cider for One Pound a pint -- they know how to run an >indie disco! Do they still have the huge Calvin and Hobbes wall hanging? Now theres a name for a band, and no its not wall hanging I was thinking of, but...... Do they play Belle and Sebastian in Evol? (look there is some relevance here). Bored as ever, Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jparker at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 16:00:54 1998 From: jparker at xxx.uk (paradiso) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:00:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Cormorants Message-ID: <34C76D2E.C7B79D9C@nep.co.uk> Bonjour, Mon braves.. I've recently befriended several Cormorants (i'm the only fellow who feeds them on this confounded Isle of Dogs...) and i wonder, could any of you suggest suitable names for them? (Anyone suggesting 'Belle' and 'Sebastian' will receive one of those smiley face bracket and colon things in the shape of a punch, and any earnest boys suggesting 'Isobel' really ought to consider getting a girlfriend and selling their Field Mice collection...) I could continue with Hey! Cormorant (it's rather risky bellowing Hey! Mr.Shag in the East End) but it does seem rather impersonal.... salut (damn keyboard won't do accents) Juan de Paradiso ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 16:37:49 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:37:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Cormorants Message-ID: <01bd2754$1359cbb0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Bonjour, Mon braves.. > >I've recently befriended several Cormorants (i'm the only fellow who >feeds them on this confounded Isle of Dogs...) and i wonder, could any >of you suggest suitable names for >them? Listee Chris will oblige, perhaps you could introduce him to some of them, he quite fancies a shag. Oh shit, that joke's just gone down the pan as I've read the rest of your mail now... arse. - have to make something up about "being surrounded by birds". You'll have to revoke carte blanche now Paul. In all seriousness though, you could name them after numbers, that'd be the easiest, I once met a guy who had two dogs, one called Rudie and the other called Hess. Indeed my flatmate used to have a cat called Mescherscmitt 109 (stop me if you think you've heard this one before), which he took to the vet and on filling in the form, put me109 down for the pet name (the usual abbreviation) and the vet comes out and goes, "Can I see melog please?" Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gar at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 16:57:21 1998 From: gar at xxx.uk (Gordon A Rogers) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:57:21 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Edinburgh Indie Clubs Message-ID: <199801221657.QAA11201@raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk> Just another word on the Edinburgh indie club scene : The only one worth going to is the Egg (And I wouldn't call it and indie club as such - much more interesting than that). No I'm not being payed by the Laird of East Fountainbridge. Here's my well educated opinion of the rest : - FBI : Used to be great when the DJ had a little originality. - Evol : Good once (played My Bloody Velentine - Whoo Hoo). - Day Tripper : Had promise and I did actually dance a bit. - Scooter : Had a good night here the DJ had a little flair (which dwindled as the night grew long). - MI5 : Pish - Katch : Shit This is the truth so there. Seek out other clubs e.g. Tribal Funktion (the top floor plays brilliant Old Skool and Soul), Cafe Graffitti or Scratch. Anyway to make this better for the rest of the listees I have a question on clubs : Have Oasis ruined all the indie clubs we used to love ? - Gordon (the edinburgh club guru from Aberdeen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From matt at xxx.com Thu Jan 22 16:49:10 1998 From: matt at xxx.com (Matt Locke) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:49:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: on the tip of my tongue (in other words, drivel...) Message-ID: <01BD2755.AB23DE80@manray.impressions-gallery.com> morning all.... (performs knee bending action simialr to 'bobbys' in 60's British movies...) just a few things that have been running 'round my head... (what song was that from?) Keith wrote: >This seems to be a weird mix up of previous posts is it not... The band >claim it's supposed to be "The Apathy of the Upper Class" or something, and >didn't Mr.Murdoch spray it himself at Glen Michael's cartoon cavalcade >underground station and the baker bit... was this not just having a laugh >with "le pastie de la boulangerie" and stuff... When I lived in Glasgow, I'm sure I remember seeing 'Le Pastie de la Bourgeiosie' graffittied on the side of the Gregs Bakers opposite HIllhead underground. I often used to see it as I went to see my friend who lived in Athol Gardens (dead posh, fucking shite landlord tho') So let this be the final word....... (not v. likely) Rod wrote: >Planning on beating the Millenium Bug, are we? Whats going to happen to Barry Norman come the millenium? do you think he will: 1. Blow up 2. Malfunction 3. Revert to 1900, turn up wearing victorian dress, review films made by the Lumiere Brothers, etc... (apologies to non-UK folk for whom this will mean naff-all) that's all my fractured brain can take right now 'cept to say that I love Rod's sig files (sounds vaguely laviscious) later y'all matlock ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.uk Wed Jan 21 21:52:08 1998 From: tangent at xxx.uk (the duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:52:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Perfume References: <199801211634.QAA29994@gemeos.electus.com.br> Message-ID: <34C66E06.4A130820@eurobell.co.uk> Ivo A P Escossia wrote: > Do you know Orange Cake Mix ? > I think i'm love again...it's not a person..... > it's a band ! > PLEASE !!!!! OCM is one James Rao... it's just him, unless he's changed the rules recently :-) He is one very fine gentleman. respect. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at eurobell.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 17:08:03 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:08:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Siniestro References: Message-ID: <34C77CF3.2BB84CB6@virgin.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 17:11:56 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:11:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Perfume. References: <199801211646.QAA06243@brookes.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34C77DDC.45897961@virgin.net> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ENG7FHS at xxx.UK Thu Jan 22 17:15:39 1998 From: ENG7FHS at xxx.UK (F.H. SMALLEY) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:15:39 GMT Subject: Sinister: sorry - more AIR Message-ID: For those who are having trouble finding previous AIR releases try Adrians, it's in Wickford but does mail order (#01268 733318/19/20). Before Xmas they had Cassanova 70 (12"), Le Soleil Est Pres De Moi (12") and Premiers Symptomes (CD). Sorry to raise your hopes if they are sold out Fiona "we are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars" Oscar Wilde ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 17:16:46 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:16:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Have Oasis ruined all the indie clubs??!! Message-ID: <5F0E1054F2C@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> > Have Oasis ruined all the indie clubs we used to love ? Not my night OFFBEAT - its an Oasis-free zone......plug, plug...cut,paste... > Offbeat ..... > A bit different from your average indie night - where > else could you hear Helen Love, Half Man Half Biscuit, The Field > Mice, Dead Kennedys and Belle and Sebastian played in sequence !!?? > > > OFFBEAT - a real indiepop night....... > > with late bar, free lollipops and request sheets > > Sheffield Uni' SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome) > > 9pm to 1am, £2.50 on the door... > > on Friday 30th January (1st birthday party with balloons and indiepop cake! > Friday 13th February > Friday 13th March > Playing......Classic Indie, Punk POP 1977-1997 and C86/C96/new > underground of indiepop..... > > HELEN LOVE-HEAVENLY-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN-DELGADOS > DWEEB-CHAMELEONS-PASTELS-R.E.M.-SMITHS-PAVEMENT- > FALL- BLUR-JAM-HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT-TALULAH GOSH- > SUPER FURRY ANIMALS-ELASTICA-CURVE-URUSEI YATSURA- > BOGSHED-TIGER-SNUFF-DEAD KENNEDYS-PWEI-CARTER USM- > DISCO PISTOL- COMET GAIN -VELODROME 2000-ANORAK GIRL > STEREOLAB-CHINA DRUM-BLAGGERS ITA- BUZZCOCKS-BIS- > WEDDING PRESENT-ASH-SONIC YOUTH-BODINES-PIXIES-CUD > PRIMAL SCREAM (early)-GENE-SHOP ASSISTANTS-FIELD MICE > CHILLS-PETER AND THE TEST TUBE BABIES-BLUEBOY-SCARFO > CORNERSHOP-BILLY BRAGG-IDLEWILD- SULTANS OF PING FC. > plus many more in the same vein...... > > for more details/to join the Offbeat mailing list > email C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk > C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 17:23:45 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:23:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Thin Air Content Message-ID: <01BD275A.7F127D60@pc07628> Rodders Wrote : Hows about... Buy Beano....42p, Cut out chain of paper men. Be happy. And so say all of us. > 21 years old, and I still enjoy spinning round on swivel chairs Ha! 26 years old and I do it for a living ! Rod you are truly warped...Camels/Sewing Machines...whatever next ? Keeps me amused though, so in the true sense of the Arab Strap....keep it up. -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 23:14:24 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 98 15:14:24 PST Subject: Sinister: re:cormorants Message-ID: i had a friend who named her dog "heyah". pronounced as a drawled out southern "here". imagine a big redneck farmer waking up at the crack of dawn and stepping out to feed the dog and he yells "heyah dog! heyah!" the vet gave us quite a look when we took it and were asked its name. she didn't know how to spell it (and i'm pretty sure i didn't do it right either) so she just said "we call him heyah" and the vet just looked at us. thanks to all who responded about my pooh sticks question. now that i know who did those songs, i've actually got a pooh sticks album that sounds nothing like those two songs. it does, however, sound like shit. and on a b&s note, i went to a coffee shop open mic type place last night, and this girl who i had never seen broke into a stunning rendition of mary jo. needless to say, i almost fainted. i only know of one other b& fan in my small town, and then here comes this girl who not only knows them but has heard or has tigermilk. i don't have to tell you how fast i struck up a conversation after her set. turns out she lives two streets over from me and has lived there for twelve years. i don't really know the point of telling you all this, i just thought it was weird. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 19:15:20 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:15:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Air review Message-ID: <199801221802.SAA05071@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> OK I bought Air today hmm.....It is a brilliant album, well worth getting, but I just can't describe it. You can definitely hear a real French sound in it (not just 'cause of the French words!). Sexy Boy is not really representative of the album sound and IMHO is not the stand out track. 'Remember', a synth-voice French sounding song is the best for me. Also the guest singer on a few of the tracks sounds exactly like Beth Gibbons from Portishead and is also called Beth! Northy Score: 8/10 well done NME. Spot on! Northy ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 18:41:39 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 98 18:41:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&SC Message-ID: <199801221839.SAA10314@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >B&S anyone? Hands up everyone in Iceland who wants to hear about the >Edinburgh club scene. I'm in total agreement - and feeling slightly guilty. I think Claire got nearer the point asking the following: >Do they play Belle and Sebastian in Evol? (look there is some relevance >here). That's what we really want to know. We could build up a small register of venues from all over who are known to have joined the cause :-) This would be easier than the Tigermilk register. Just a suggestion. Bye y'all Smutty Lairdie (guilty of bringing Adult Content to 'Sinister') ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From SAGUILLO at xxx.es Thu Jan 22 19:45:49 1998 From: SAGUILLO at xxx.es (SAGUILLO at xxx.es) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:45:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: La Leche del Tigre Message-ID: <199801221847.SAA06859@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Hola a todo el mundo Creo que seria interesante que los hispanoparlantes que estamos en esta mailing-list nos dieramos a conocer. Puede haber mucha gente (de hecho la hay) que la barrera del idioma les impide acceder a material (intercambio de cintas), del cual gracias a esta lista ya dispongo (Thanks, Chirs). Toda la gente que hableis castellano, por favor, escribid al menos un mensaje para dar fe de que estais hay. P.D.: Alberto, a que te refieres con lo de Biarritz? Adios ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Thu Jan 22 19:23:43 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:23:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: Fat bottom girls you make my rockin' world go round In-Reply-To: <199801221519.PAA01936@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801221519.PAA01936@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34cb9c75.4352771@email.mcmail.com> Oh Hello, Genevieve wrote: >*squeeaaaaaaaal!* trousers,no trousers or dad's trousers,he's just fine. Trousers is kind of sexy, isn't he? >So many many conerts for you all to see,I am still stuck with Old Man >Withers,the only show round here....We have a little dirt road....and not >many people live on it,but whenever I go fro a walk,the little hut by the >ice rink he always there.("Honey! Want me to buy you some beer? I'm building >an Arc! I'm Noah!") Yes, it's Julian, the bus nutter. Brad wrote: >one of kept saying: >"i know someone who knows someone who knows alan mcgee quite well" > >and the other was talking of how he had everything by a certain band "on = >tape". > >who can enlighten me on who this is and if they're any good? Brad, why did you do this? - now we'll get 200 emails from people who know. Please, can I make a serious request, and ask people answering individual queries of this type to do so directly to the asker. Sorry to be a moaner, I've had a bad day. Keith wrote: >"Dear Stephen Pastel, will you have sex with me?" Ok, so he didn't really. However he did write: >Just ranting really, sorry, hungover again. And long may you do so, you wonderful drunken fool. Tim wrote about Air: >Yep, it must be manna from heaven to all those of you who still >mourn the passing into obscurity of Jean Michell Jarre, and who love their >music without any hint of emotional involvement, or funk. Bollocks. I'm listening to it now. So that proves you're wrong. I'm the winner. Alberto Perez wrote in Spanish. Now watch Miller show off ... John 'Paradiso' wrote >ah, it's so undignified isn't it readers? >... a relationship breaking up in public, and on the internet of all >things.... how post-modern, why, it's all we ever talk about here in the >bistros of Puerto Vehlo ....blah blah.. was dark in the Union Chapel...) What the hell are you talking about? >when Julian and Tag used to be such a happy couple, strolling arm in arm >around IKEA of a Sunday morning, feeding each other ice-cream on the >steps of the Town Hall before the Sunday matinee, arguing over who had >... warble warble... the bloody idiot, is taking the sting from a gin, >and those damn cicadas are starting up their nightly deaths' rattle. John's novel has now been rejected by another publisher. Apparently they thought it was bollocks. Claire wrote: > Tag is absolutely correct But of course. You sound surprised. It's no use. I'm uninspired tonight. Sorry. Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 19:39:41 1998 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 19:39:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: being boring(we were never) In-Reply-To: <199801221802.SAA05071@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980122193941.2e2f01bc@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> At 19:15 22/01/98 +0000, northy wrote: >OK I bought Air today > >hmm.....It is a brilliant album, well worth getting, but I just can't >describe it. > >You can definitely hear a real French sound in it (not just 'cause of >the French words!). > >Sexy Boy is not really representative of the album sound and IMHO is >not the stand out track. 'Remember', a synth-voice French sounding >song is the best for me. > >Also the guest singer on a few of the tracks sounds exactly like Beth >Gibbons from Portishead and is also called Beth! > >Northy Score: 8/10 > >well done NME. Spot on! They are always, aren't they? Are you one of their journalists? Please, Portishead-the-lady-sings-the-blues are crap. Sultans of ping and northside? We were young and innocent, Claire. (Tag, Julian the flatmate loves you. It's just his way of saying it) Kelly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 20:05:28 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Arantxa Ubieta / Peter Miller) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 21:05:28 +0100 Subject: Sinister: problems, siniestro Message-ID: <199801222101.WAA29773@colon.colon.net> I've just changed over to the Microsoft Internet mail program. Not my choice. Problem is, all messages from Jeepster Recordings (Katrina, I suppose) appear to be completely blank. Is it just me, or is something wrong at Jeepster Corner? I am particularly distressed as one of them was an answer to the message in Spanish... Dear Alberto, There are about three or four Spanish speakers on the list (or there were) including someone form Barcelona, I think, and Carlos from Valencia. There is also a Basque in Italy, called Iker, if I remember correctly. His mum is from San Sebastian, which is near where I live, in the delightful town of Renteria. You may have heard of it. (That was a joke, sorry Paul, I'm doing quite well) The concert in Barcelona was indeed "de puta madre" and "la hostia", "guay de paraguay", "una autentica pasada, tio" and "casi una experiencia religiosa" (that was another joke) You're better off asking someone better equipped than myself for a tape. There are radio sessions and other exciting things out there that I haven't got. Tag also speaks Spanish and is a good friend of Bigas Luna. (damn!) ahem... (Si no entiendes todo este rollo que te estoy metiendo, mandame un mensaje y lo intentaré poner en castellano. No tengo ni puta idea de Catalan, pero aupa el Valencia. Y aupa el Alaves) Football fans the world over will be amused to hear that Real Madrid got knocked out of the cup last night by a second division team. Over two legs. Good, eh? The Nick Drake book is very nice so far. He was indeed a star of track, if not field, particularly the hundred yard dash. And he played rugby and hockey. Wonders will never cease. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From yazansam at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 20:11:14 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Yaz) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:11:14 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199801222016.UAA16265@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> > I've just changed over to the Microsoft Internet mail program. Not my > choice. Problem is, all messages from Jeepster Recordings (Katrina, I > suppose) appear to be completely blank. Is it just me, or is something > wrong at Jeepster Corner? I am particularly distressed Me too!! I also get worryingly empty pages from Jeepster and i think we use the microsoft programme too, but as a pathetic computer illiterate student person, i'm not sure. Just thought i'ld tell yous lot, loove, Yaz xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Thu Jan 22 20:57:07 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 20:57:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pastie: final word References: <01BD2755.AB23DE80@manray.impressions-gallery.com> Message-ID: <34C7B2A3.9E9C4A47@lineone.net> > When I lived in Glasgow, I'm sure I remember seeing 'Le Pastie de la > Bourgeiosie' graffittied on the side of the Gregs Bakers opposite > HIllhead underground. I often used to see it as I went to see my > friend who lived in Athol Gardens (dead posh, fucking shite landlord > tho') So let this be the final word....... (not v. likely) final word: from the mouth of mr murdoch (he might have been fibbing of course. never trust a boy frae Ayr), the slogan was originally writ large outside gregs by the Yummy Fur boys, and he later repainted it somewhere else. so it's the yummy fur you should be asking what it really means... respect. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Thu Jan 22 21:21:34 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:21:34 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister democracy Message-ID: <543ffb83.34c7b860@aol.com> I must admit that I had some difficulties with voting for Belle and Sebastian songs. Let's say I do not particularly care for song X, X, or X (titles witheld to avoid shocking controversey), I still probably like those songs more than any song by band X, X, or X (names witheld for above reason). I did give some songs deliberately low scores because it would be quite silly if we had a vote and every song scored a ten. Some songs just have to lose. I prefer to think that the number scale was really with a decimal, lowest score nine, then if song X were given only a 5, it would truly be a 9.5. I do want every song to be a winner in some way. Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nioannidis at xxx.gr Thu Jan 22 22:41:04 1998 From: nioannidis at xxx.gr (Nicholas Ioannidis) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 00:41:04 +0200 Subject: Sinister: senseless drivel References: Message-ID: <34C7CB00.E29E05DB@ath.forthnet.gr> The Pooh Sticks on Cheree records if my memory doesn't fail me Nicholas bradford wrote: > hey. > listen up. i gots a question to ask of, well, whoever knows the answer. > a friend made me a tape of some stuff and there was these two songs on it and when i asked him who it was he said he didn't know and that someone taped it for him without telling him. > it sounded english. and pop. mid 80's maybe. > > one of kept saying: > "i know someone who knows someone who knows alan mcgee quite well" > > and the other was talking of how he had everything by a certain band "on tape". > > who can enlighten me on who this is and if they're any good? > > -brad > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Thu Jan 22 22:48:11 1998 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 22:48:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: In-Reply-To: <199801222016.UAA16265@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: Yaz wrote: > Me too!! I also get worryingly empty pages from Jeepster and i think we > use the microsoft programme too, but as a pathetic computer illiterate > student person, i'm not sure. Your messages have probably decoded into mysterious files somewhere on your hard drive. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Thu Jan 22 22:52:46 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:52:46 EST Subject: Sinister: senseless drivel Message-ID: In a message dated 1/22/98 9:53:06AM, you write: << The songs on the tape are by welsh band The Pooh Sticks. "I know someone who knows someone who knows Alan McGee quite well" and "On Tape" are from a box set of singles released in june 1988 on Fierce Records. It was released as a one sided album (with some very nice engravings on the B-side!) in august the same year. >> I was forced to sell my box set about 5 years ago when I was an impoverished student. I got thirty quid for it. The guy at record & tape exchange said (rather harshly in my opinion): "we'll get 80 for this in Japan - they lap up shit like this!". Indie Pop Aint Noise Pollution... Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 06:47:27 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 06:47:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: References: Message-ID: <34C83CFF.C5838A75@totalweb.co.uk> no worries, the next time i'm at jeepster i'll re-configure their software so this doesn't happen. david -- Mike Newman wrote: > > Yaz wrote: > > > Me too!! I also get worryingly empty pages from Jeepster and i think we > > use the microsoft programme too, but as a pathetic computer illiterate > > student person, i'm not sure. > > Your messages have probably decoded into mysterious files somewhere on > your hard drive. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel > homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iles at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 10:46:04 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 10:46:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: le pastie Message-ID: > > >From: "Karine Alexandra Poivey" > > >> what the hell does "le pastie" mean? >> >It doesn't mean anything in french.According to the official site >(and one of the videos apparently but I didn't see then-are they >broadcast on some french TV ? ) "Le pastie de la bourgeoisie" is a >graffiti they found on a bakery in Glasgow.And they think the one who >had wrote it thought it means "bakery" in french.But it doesn't. I thought it was supposed to be a mishearing of l'apathie de la bourgeoisie, meaning 'apathy'. So either the person who graffitied it (is graffitied a word?) got it wrong or wrote it as a joke on the side of this bakery. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 11:30:04 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:30:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: You made me remember my dreams Message-ID: <01BD27F2.43FC0280@pc07628> Oh Genevieve....where be thee my lovely ? You should come to England and ply your trade as a Dream Doctor. I have two weeks of insomnia, two weeks on tranquilisers, and not a single dream ! I receive one message from you my dear, and hey presto I'm back in dreamland ! Unfortunately not a B&S dream...but bizarre non-the-less..... I got on the bus to work, and the bloke in front of me paid for me. Then at lunchtime i went and met my best mate and we stole something, I can't remember what. And we were being chased down this alley between two rows of terraced houses, but this alley was in the middle of being resurfaced and we were knee deep in aggregates and then a steam-roller started coming the other way.....AAAAGGGGHHH...way out ! But there was this little doorway we managed to squeeze into while the steam-roller passed us. i found a bucket in the doorway and it was full of snails, so we took it back to my friends house..(Lord knows what happened to the people who were chasing us). He didn't want me to take the bucket into his house, so I threw in a water butt outside his house....only it wasn't his house it was my mums. And we went to bed (not together for christs sake) in our lunch hours !! And when we got up to go back to work, we walked out of the house and the snails had multiplied and there were just literally thousands of them. And that was it ! DOES ANYONE ANALYSE DREAMS ???? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN. -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 11:16:50 1998 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:16:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Edinburgh Indie Clubs Message-ID: <00050311.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> >Just another word on the Edinburgh indie club scene : >The only one worth going to is the Egg (And I wouldn't call it and indie club > as such - much more interesting than that). No I'm not > being payed by the Laird of East Fountainbridge. Have to agree with you there. I spent a wonderful, if slightly drunken, night there last Saturday. Also plucked up the courage to say hello to the Laird after he responded to my written-down request to play 'String Bean Jean'. Boy, did that make my night. He also aired LLPJ at the end. Now, I ask you. Where elae in Embra would you get that on a Saturday night? The Archdeacon of Pop Here's my well educated opinion of the rest : - FBI : Used to be great when the DJ had a little originality. - Evol : Good once (played My Bloody Velentine - Whoo Hoo). - Day Tripper : Had promise and I did actually dance a bit. - Scooter : Had a good night here the DJ had a little flair (which dwindled as the night grew long). - MI5 : Pish - Katch : Shit This is the truth so there. Seek out other clubs e.g. Tribal Funktion (the top floor plays brilliant Old Skool and Soul), Cafe Graffitti or Scratch. Anyway to make this better for the rest of the listees I have a question on clubs : Have Oasis ruined all the indie clubs we used to love ? - Gordon (the edinburgh club guru from Aberdeen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.168) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 0004FB5F; Thu, 22 Jan 98 17:38:31 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA04423 for sinister-outgoing; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:55:50 GMT Received: from pigeon.csd.abdn.ac.uk (pigeon.csd.abdn.ac.uk [139.133.200.15]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA04419 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:55:46 GMT Received: from raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk (gar at raven [139.133.200.90]) by pigeon.csd.abdn.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA14700 for ; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:57:22 GMT From: Gordon A Rogers Received: (from gar at localhost) by raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA11201 for sinister at majordomo.net; Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:57:21 GMT Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:57:21 GMT Message-Id: <199801221657.QAA11201 at raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk> To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: Re: Edinburgh Indie Clubs X-Sun-Charset: US-ASCII Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Gordon A Rogers X-List: Sinister From mctag at xxx.com Fri Jan 23 12:37:50 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:37:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hot pumping disco action In-Reply-To: <199801230646.GAA09956@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801230646.GAA09956@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34c88e6c.12035319@email.mcmail.com> Allright squires, I'm going to write a load of crap now (anyone writing 'so what's new?' will be treated with the contempt they deserve), I can feel it in my water. Claire Timmins wrote: >graff, not steffi. That's a shame. A bit of tennis would make me a lot happier. After all, Pavement wrote a song inspired by Goran Ivanisevic. Nice to see that insipid little shit Henman falling at the first fence, while Rusedski reigns supreme. I like Greg - he could've been the Canadian number one, and chose British citizenship cos he loves his girlfriend, the big soppy pussycat. German Number 2 Anke Huber is the woman I love. AND Peter Miller is married to Arantxa Sanchez- Viccario. At least that's what I've been led to believe. Paul 'Polanski' Mitchell wrote: >B&S anyone? Hands up everyone in Iceland who wants to hear about the >Edinburgh club scene. I'd like to hear about the Icelandic club scene. And what's big in Greenland? In 'Miss Smilla's Feeling for Snow', it mentions a place called Disko Bay. That's where Belle and Sebastian should record their live quadruple album 'Ice and fire: Belle and Sebastian Red and Raw in Disko Bay'. The laser show could be at least the equal of Jean Michel Jarre's. I'd love to see Chris playing that synthesiser JMJ had where you just put in your hand across a beam of light to play a note. John wrote: >I could continue with Hey! Cormorant (it's rather risky bellowing Hey! >Mr.Shag in the East End) but it does seem rather impersonal.... It's not the 'proper' East End, it's Canary Wharf - stop trying to be Reggie Kray. I know all about your secret life, tossing stray farthings to shoe shine boys in bistros, while screaming 'SELL ALL DEUTSCHMARKS' into your mobile phone to your 'man' in the City. It's hardly The Blind Beggar now, is it? Incidentally, did you know Honey, our glorious leader, is the lost brother of those latterday day Kray Twins - Grant and Phil. >salut (damn keyboard won't do accents) slut, yourself Keith wrote: > Indeed my flatmate used to have a cat called Mescherscmitt 109 (stop me >if you think you've heard this one before), which he took to the vet and on >filling in the form, put me109 down for the pet name (the usual >abbreviation) and the vet comes out and goes, "Can I see melog please?" I know someone who's got two cats called Drum and Bass. They're going to look bloody silly when one of them dies. Dr C.B. Stride wrote: >> Have Oasis ruined all the indie clubs we used to love ? > >Not my night OFFBEAT - its an Oasis-free zone......plug, plug...cut,paste.= He's off again. >> Offbeat ..... >> A bit different from your average indie night ... on Friday 30th January >>(1st birthday party with balloons I'm going to be sick. >and indiepop cake The word is 'cack'. Northy wrote: And may the lord God make us truly thankful. Pedro Miller wrote: >The concert in Barcelona was indeed "de puta madre". >Tag also speaks Spanish Enough to know what 'de puta madre' means. The only Spanish I can remember is dirty. >and is a good friend of Bigas Luna (damn!) It's true. Javier Bardem's character in 'Jamon, Jamon' is based on me. The Duke wrote: >final word: from the mouth of mr murdoch (he might have been fibbing of course. >never trust a boy frae Ayr), No, you're right. They sound like Jean-Michel Jarre and have no funk. >the slogan was originally writ >large outside gregs by the Yummy Fur boys, and he later repainted it >somewhere else. so it's the yummy fur you should be asking what it >really means... Well, I heard the same thing from someone who knows someone who knows Stuart Murdoch quite well. 'Tigermilk' - I've got it on tape. Hilarious. And now my favourite letter of the day: Brad wrote: >thanks to all who responded about my pooh sticks question. now that i kno= >w who did those songs, i've actually got a pooh sticks album that sounds = >nothing like those two songs. it does, however, sound like shit. Brad, that cheered me up. Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 95516123 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 12:10:49 1998 From: 95516123 at xxx.uk (95516123) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 12:10:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT AIR ALBUM Message-ID: <000503FE.3208@student.napier.ac.uk> >Hey people >Buy NME for 95p >Cut out Air woolworths �2 off token >buy Air album >save �2 throw it away >listen to Air >thought you'd all like to know >Anyone like near the IBM place in Otterbourne...or Hurley? >I was there today so I thought I'd ask But you're only saving �1.05 due to forking out 95p for the NME. Is it worth it? A new winter coat and shoes... The Archdeacon of Pop ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------- next part -------------- Received: from sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (129.215.72.230) by CSUNT2.napier.ac.uk with SMTP (IMA Internet Exchange 2.12 Enterprise) id 0004F002; Wed, 21 Jan 98 22:09:47 +0000 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id VAA18420 for sinister-outgoing; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:58:21 GMT Received: from andromeda.ndirect.co.uk (andromeda.ndirect.co.uk [194.74.254.17]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id VAA18416 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:58:18 GMT Received: from mesh (th-pm00-31.ndirect.co.uk [194.73.182.34]) by andromeda.ndirect.co.uk (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id VAA17599 for ; Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:59:58 GMT Message-Id: <199801212159.VAA17599 at andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "northy" To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 23:12:54 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT AIR ALBUM X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v2.40) Precedence: bulk Reply-To: "northy" From pym0491b at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 13:03:52 1998 From: pym0491b at xxx.uk (Seymour Stein) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:03:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Air...the Beach Boys? Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980123130352.0068f9dc@194.238.147.3> For your interest. I'm sort of admitting that the Air LP is not as great as Premiers Symptomes and is only ok. But, let me tell you now...'Remember', the second track on the b side sounds exactly (in drum terms) the same as 'Do it Again' by the Beach Boys! You're welcome. x will look out...CALYPSO CUPS...in your area February 1998 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From wac at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 13:55:52 1998 From: wac at xxx.uk (WesleySniper) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:55:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Edinburgh Indie Clubs In-Reply-To: <199801221657.QAA11201@raven.csd.abdn.ac.uk> Message-ID: The jaffacake is a quality, moddy type venue which I enjoyed alot during last years festival, and he Citrus club wasn't bad either, but the punk festival was on at the ttime and loads of them came in and blasted the amps with UK Subs type stuff - but by then I had pulled so it wasn't too bad! like the list alot - many international people logged in too? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 13:45:05 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:45:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Air...the Beach Boys? Message-ID: <01bd2805$1c977f40$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I'm sort of admitting that the Air LP is not as great as Premiers Symptomes >and is only ok. But, let me tell you now...'Remember', the second track on >the b side sounds exactly (in drum terms) the same as 'Do it Again' by the >Beach Boys! Do you think it's not as good, I'd say it was certainly as good if not better, still they're both ace anyway. Also, maybe of interest, there's a DJ Shadow compilation of singles out at the moment on Import called "Pre-emptive Strike" which is excellent - indeed I've bought it and I've already got all of it, it's just cool to listen to (almost) all the singles on the one CD, so highly recommended. Track listing: Influx Hindsight What does your Soul look like (1-4) High Noon Organ Donor (remix) Also with Camel Bobsled Race, which is the rather poor "Megamix" by Q-Bert. Doesn't live up to the standard set by Technotronic regarding megamixes. Quite why it doesn't have "Lost and Found" on it I don't know, but I expect it's James Lavelle's Tory brain at work again which means he'll release another compilation which will have it on it, and lots of innocent people will buy it, making him a load of money. Still... let's face facts, it beats buying shite records from principled people. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 14:13:53 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:13:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: todas cosas siniestras Message-ID: Hola todos! Yo tambien hablo espanol, y no soy espanola! Muy bien, si? Pero, es muy dificil escribir espanol en el ordenador, porque no hay accentos o punctuacion espanola. Que mierda! Lo siento para mi lengua muy infantil, no hay estuadiadolo para un ano, y he olvidado todo. Lo siento tambien si mis femininos/masculinos son inutiles. Un abrazo muy fuerte a todos hablantes de espanol en la lista. Well, now I've struggled to remember some of the language which I only stopped studying last year, I'll attempt to salvage my collapsed ego by making nasty comments about stuff in general. Nah, I can't be bothered to be nasty. I'm too happy about going to see Travis this evening, for which purpose I will have to skive off the last hour or so of college. Never mind, I don't think my contribution to the art world this afternoon was going to be worth shit anyway. Ho hum. At least I've got glittery nail varnish on. Bueno, tengo que hablar un poco sobre Aire: I haven't heard any Air stuff, I'm sure it's marvellous/shit, according to whatever people believe, but there does seem to have been muchisimo about the aforesaid on t'list. Talk about Baccara instead, why don't you? Or, if you can't stomach that, tell us poor unfortunates what Air is ACTUALLY LIKE, rather than just sending and resending variations on the theme of "Yeah, it's great" "No it isn't, you shithead" "Oh yes it is" "Oh no it isn't" "What do you think, children?", because I can't see you and so don't know who's supposed to be the villain (no visual clues like black moustaches or anything, see?). At least people have stopped arguing about Radiohead. Cojones! That's torn it! Has no-one anything (un)constructive to say about B&S? Hey, why don't I start off? Is Mick a *proper* member of the band now? There's so many cool trumpet solos now he definitely should be if he isn't. Oh, that authentic Iberian flavour on Dog On Wheels! Ooh, this is difficult...let me cogitate, deliberate and digest for a second or five... Nope, can't think of anything right now. Alberto, en respuesta a su suplicacion, tengo Tigermilk, If You're Feeling Sinister y los EPs y puedo grabarlo para tu si me envias una cinta. Me envias privadamente para resolver esto. Bueno, tengo que correr ahora y hacer algo en el estudio. Hasta la vista, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) **************************** The woods are lovely, dark and deep, But I have promises to keep, And miles to go before I sleep. Robert Frost *************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cmartin at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 14:19:10 1998 From: cmartin at xxx.uk (Chris D Martin) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:19:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Where's our Jon Snow gone? Message-ID: <4EF2F814989@srv0.ces.ed.ac.uk> We need a swingometer update. I notice that Expectations - wayhey, the first ever B&S song I heard, on Beat Patrol actually, in the late summer of 96, but anyway - has climbed its way to the top of the poll. And the top five tracks all come from Tigermilk at the moment. The highest ranking sinister track at the moment being, The Stars of Track and Field. I'm personally suprised at the position of Judy and the Dream of Horses, back in 12th place. The State I Am In, My Wandering Days are Over, and Electronic Renaissance, all seem to be splitting the troops most, with opinions highly divided over them. With Put the Book Back On the Shelf attracting the least amount of disagreement by fans. So if we were to rearrange the seats on the basis of the votes in so far, Debinhams would have a majority of a small coffee table over Marks and Sparks. love to all, chris ________________________________________________ Centre for Educational Sociology, Institute for the Study of Education and Society 7 Buccleuch Place University of Edinburgh, Edinburgh,EH8 9LW ________________________________________________ Tel:+44 131 6504198 c.d.martin at ed.ac.uk Fax:+44 131 6683263 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paul.sumner at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 14:05:08 1998 From: paul.sumner at xxx.uk (paul.sumner at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:05:08 GMT Subject: Sinister: The meaning of "la pastie de la bourgeousie" Message-ID: <980123140508.2021b329@fawdon.unn.ac.uk> Hi For those of you who wrote regarding the meaning of "la pastie de la borgeousie": I was right in front of Stuart David at the Manchester Sunday evening Christmas gig. During one of the technical-hitch-gaps between songs, someone behind me asked Stuart what it meant, and he said, "It means the cake of the rich, or something.". However, isn't a cake in French "un gateau"? Still, there's what one of the band says...is there anyone French on the list who knows for certain? Cheers, Paul Sumner ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 14:45:31 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:45:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Useless self-mocking ignorancy Message-ID: <34C8AD0B.F94F93FA@easynet.co.uk> Paul Forsyth wrote: > I've just been looking for Air's PREMIERS SYMPTOMES in town > but can't find anything but Moon Safari. Does anyone > know if this previous album is released in this country, or will be, > or would I have to order it?? > Thanks! Just ordered this lot from CDNow in the states (www.cdnow.com); 1) AIR : PREMIERS SYMPTOMES-THE SINGLES 7.49 2) BEDHEAD : BEHEADED 13.49 3) DEANA CARTER : DID I SHAVE MY LEGS FOR THIS? 13.49 4) DAMON & NAOMI : MORE SAD HITS 13.99 5) LEFTY FRIZZELL : BEST OF 14.49 6) HAND PICKED : TWENTY FIVE YEARS OF ROUNDER 8.49 7) ALISON KRAUSS : NOW THAT I'VE FOUND YOU 13.57 8) SILVER JEWS : NATURAL BRIDGE 13.49 9) GEORGE STRAIT : BLUE CLEAR SKY 13.99 Check the top one out - these prices are in dollars, don't forget. Less than 5 quid - blimey. Shipping on the above costs £12 and takes about two weeks to arrive. I may have to pay duty on them (I've ordered twice before - once Customs made me pay duty, once they didn't) Even if I do, the CDs work out at about £11 each, which is nay bad at all. Er, I have no connection with these CDNow bleeders, BTW. regards, yerluvinuncleTurt ps. just been re-listening to the Triffid's 'Born Sandy Devotional' Mmmmmmmmmmmm yumm. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From keith at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 14:45:02 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 14:45:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Air Message-ID: <01bd280d$7c7e9bc0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >"Yeah, it's great" >"No it isn't, you shithead" >"Oh yes it is" >"Oh no it isn't" OK. The best way I can describe Air is a kind of mix between say DJ Shadow, Joni MItchell, John Martyn and the Human League. Don't know if that helps any! Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From daeril at xxx.es Fri Jan 23 15:24:33 1998 From: daeril at xxx.es (Alberto Perez Villen) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:24:33 +0100 Subject: [Fwd: Re: Sinister: La Leche del Tigre] Message-ID: <34C8B631.5353@redestb.es> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Alberto Perez Villen Subject: Re: Sinister: La Leche del Tigre Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:21:47 +0100 Size: 2916 URL: From rod at xxx.net Fri Jan 23 15:39:14 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (C++ Tutor To The Gentry) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:39:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&SC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Honey wrote: > B&S anyone? Hands up everyone in Iceland who wants to hear about the > Edinburgh club scene. OK, mild off-topicness on my behalf over. But talking of Iceland, you can get three packs of microwaveable pizzas for the price of two at the moment, and microwaveable egg, cheese + sausage McMuffins are 99p for two. Bargains ahoy. (Just call me Convenience Food Boy!) Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Telesuckie: v. The act of holding a phone receiver to your chest as | you dial ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bogus@does.not.exist.com Fri Jan 23 15:52:45 1998 From: bogus@does.not.exist.com () Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:52:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Have Oasis ruined all the indie clubs??!! In-Reply-To: <5F0E1054F2C@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, Dr C.B.Stride wrote: > > Offbeat ..... > > A bit different from your average indie night - where > > else could you hear Helen Love, Half Man Half Biscuit, The Field > > Mice, Dead Kennedys and Belle and Sebastian played in sequence !!?? > > > > OFFBEAT - a real indiepop night....... > > > > with late bar, free lollipops and request sheets > > > > Sheffield Uni' SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome) *PLEASE* come to do a club in Embra. That sounded exceptionally fabby. Especially the free lollipops. I remember when Madchester used to give away different sweetmeats each fortnight. Always lovely on your walk home when you discovered a packet of Nerds you'd forgotten about! ROd. Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Acomomammadation: n. The inconspicuous manner in which a woman | adjusts a fallen bra strap ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From g.j.bevis at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 15:54:08 1998 From: g.j.bevis at xxx.uk (g.j.bevis) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:54:08 GMT+0 Subject: Sinister: What Happens Next? Message-ID: <4F4FC4A0F@mail-gw.uclan.ac.uk> Hello. Sorry. I'm one of those disgusting 'new' fans. I don't even own 'Tigermilk'. How shocking! If you can find it in your hearts to forgive me for never having heard anything by B and S until mid 1997 then you could let me know what their next release is going to be? Also, has anyone got any good ideas for new album titles? My best idea (so far) is 'Man About The House' Gav PS Off the subject maybe, but does anyone like Rialto? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.net Fri Jan 23 15:58:41 1998 From: rod at xxx.net (Bogie Bred) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 15:58:41 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&SC In-Reply-To: <199801221839.SAA10314@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 22 Jan 1998, plaird wrote: > >Do they play Belle and Sebastian in Evol? (look there is some relevance > >here). > > That's what we really want to know. We could build up a small register of > venues from all over who are known to have joined the cause :-) I've heard them played at Kinky Indie on a Thursday at the Citrus by the really rather gorgeous DJ lady, and I once got DJ Lee to play it at FBI after risking life & limb to climb up to speak to him. He played it after The Monkee's Stepping STone, and the dancefloor completely emptied. (IIRC, this was the night before the Assembly Rooms gig) Rod. (bloody hell - on topic for once) Rod Begbie @ http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/index.html | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Wimbledown: n. The fuzz on tennis balls ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From iles at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 16:03:12 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:03:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: lazy jane poster Message-ID: Vinyl Tap in Leeds is selling a poster of Lazy Line Painter Jane in case anyone's interested. A snip at seven pounds, I'm sure you'll all agree. If you're still interested their web page is at www.vinyltap.co.uk Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Fri Jan 23 15:56:55 1998 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 23 Jan 98 15:56:55 Subject: Sinister: Steward's enquiry Message-ID: <9801231620.AA9548@notesgw.compuserve.com> Hmmm... Some abnormal voting patterns have come to my attention. Remarkably, "Expectations" and "I could be dreaming" have _rocketed_ up the chart in the space of 24 hours to occupy slots 1 and 2, ousting long term resident "She's Losing It" into fourth place. I suppose it's possible that this is just coincidence, but my suspicious nature is wondering whether the dark forces of block voting from multiple e-mail accounts may have something to do with it. This must be stopped! (Unless you're all voting for "Belle And Sebastian" and "La Pastie de la Bourgeoisie", in which case I give it my full support. It's interesting how SM's less parochial songs, the ones that don't tell you a story about some girl and her adventures, or include lines about, say, throwing discus for Liverpool and Widnes, tend to be less favoured. Songs like "The Boy Done Wrong Again", "You Made Me Forget My Dreams" or, in a different way, "Electronic Renaissance". I'm really suprised about TBDRA now being bottom of the heap - sometines it's my favourite song on IFYS. When the piano goes d-d-da-da da-da (my musical training serves me well again) and I hear the line "All I wanted was to sing the saddest song" my heart very nearly breaks . A tearful Nick ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jo.attree at xxx.com Fri Jan 23 16:23:00 1998 From: jo.attree at xxx.com (jo.attree at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:23:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: more pastie Message-ID: <98Jan23.160711gmt.36880@sjbgate.sjberwin.com> i thought it was stevie that was asked this? (i was in a position of power, right in front of stuart murdoch) anyway he definitly said it was "the cake of the aristocrats". now, stop the madness! no more pasties i beseech you. jo. ********************************************** Hi For those of you who wrote regarding the meaning of "la pastie de la borgeousie": I was right in front of Stuart David at the Manchester Sunday evening Christmas gig. During one of the technical-hitch-gaps between songs, someone behind me asked Stuart what it meant, and he said, "It means the cake of the rich, or something.". However, isn't a cake in French "un gateau"? Still, there's what one of the band says...is there anyone French on the list who knows for certain? Cheers, Paul Sumner ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Fri Jan 23 18:04:54 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (timminsc) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:04:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Indie is a four letter word In-Reply-To: <01bd2745$914d4970$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980123180454.007a0e70@mail.tcd.ie> Keith, I was talking about the years 91-93, when, well in my opinion Evol was good. It may be shit now but I don't really know. Sorry, that sounded like I was annoyed with what you wrote I wasn't at all. >You serious? Evol... shite more like. The only times I've ever wound up at >Evol's when absolutely nothing else is on. As far as FBI goes I don't think I've been since the summer of 93 either and then I moved to Glasgow never to return. >I used to quite enjoy FBI, although I haven't been since summer 1993 and >everyone tells me it's complete arse now. A shame really. As it used to be fun. The records they played were always different than what you could find in other places. And at the end, when clubs in Edinburgh used to be opened to 4am, they used to always play 'Sunday morning', ahhh. But that was then and this is...... Claire.. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Fri Jan 23 18:07:05 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (timminsc) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:07:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sorry Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980123180705.007ac560@mail.tcd.ie> Sorry all, a bit homesick. Claire ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 16:36:30 1998 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 16:36:30 GMT Subject: Sinister: ms. queen- no b&s Message-ID: last night i was listening to R4's book at bedtime, an ian banks novel about a scottish rock group called "frozen gold" and their ups 'n' doons of being the biggest thing since jesus and the traumas of standing next to the dry ice machine when on stage... it had been turned into play really and was interspersed with all these musical snips, supposedly of the band's big hits ( one song began with the laydee proclaiming truths of "shell like ears" )... and apparently all these were sung by a certain monica queen! life just gets better and better once you duet with b & s. t'other kate ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 19:38:00 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:38:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: err... Message-ID: <199801231824.SAA23953@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> don't take me too seriously.... bye Northy I was probably a little melodramatic but I fucking hate drug dealers peace man! Northy ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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From: Jeepster Recordings Ltd Subject: Re: Sinister: Siniestro Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:08:03 +0000 Size: 1301 URL: From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Jan 23 18:31:58 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:31:58 +0000 Subject: [Fwd: Sinister: Perfume.] Message-ID: <34C8E21E.1688992A@virgin.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Jeepster Recordings Ltd Subject: Re: Sinister: Perfume. Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 17:11:56 +0000 Size: 1863 URL: From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 18:35:13 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 18:35:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: 'Steward's enquiry' or 'you've all gone mad again' References: <9801231620.AA9548@notesgw.compuserve.com> Message-ID: <34C8E2E1.5E43E6DF@totalweb.co.uk> Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB wrote: > > Hmmm... Some abnormal voting patterns have come to my attention. Remarkably, > "Expectations" and "I could be dreaming" have _rocketed_ up the chart in the > space of 24 hours to occupy slots 1 and 2, ousting long term resident "She's > Losing It" into fourth place. I suppose it's possible that this is just > coincidence, but my suspicious nature is wondering whether the dark forces of > block voting from multiple e-mail accounts may have something to do with it. > This must be stopped! (Unless you're all voting for "Belle And Sebastian" and > "La Pastie de la Bourgeoisie", in which case I give it my full support. well, you can rest assured that no-one has registered twice. block voting though should be made a crime along with tactical voting. surely it's of more value (any value?) if we are truthful, i mean, i've seen that a lot of you have voted songs as zero rating!!! are you sure? we are talking of belle and sebastian, and if you're just voting for a song, but are unsure what to give it, then simply listen to it. and remember that when you vote we're not comparing it to radiohead or the ilk, you're simply saying how much you like a particular track. who cares what's at no' 1? i didn't create it for that, i just wanted a way to be able to show the world which songs we love and which are less loved, sort of a guide to where to start with b&s (a bad idea since all high rating songs are unreleased or from tigermilk!). > It's interesting how SM's less parochial songs, the ones that don't tell you a > story about some girl and her adventures, or include lines about, say, > throwing discus for Liverpool and Widnes, tend to be less favoured. Songs like > "The Boy Done Wrong Again", "You Made Me Forget My Dreams" or, in a different > way, "Electronic Renaissance". I'm really suprised about TBDRA now being > bottom of the heap - sometimes it's my favourite song on IFYS. When the piano > goes d-d-da-da da-da (my musical training serves me well again) and I hear the > line "All I wanted was to sing the saddest song" my heart very nearly breaks > . and i think that 'photo jenny' is much neglected at position 28, but i don't mind, since i know we all still love it, just maybe not as much as we love our fading tape of Rhoda (who's got this? only two of you have voted?). > A tearful Nick a not so tearful david, who still adores 'electronic renaissance' even after it's stint at the bottom. 'if you work for much very longer you'll be known as the boy who's always working if you dance for much very longer you'll be known as the boy who's always dancing' now try and tell me that no-one likes this song (electronic renaissance). can't you remember that desperate feeling when there is nothing else in the world except the blaring song and all you can do is dance, tears in eyes hoping that your woes will have passed if you dance long enough. for once we have b&s content, and for once i'd like to actually know why you voted the way you did and which songs move you most (in happy or sad ways)... please let us know. -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction, vote http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 19:08:48 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 19:08:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm ill I'm excused for rubbish like this NER! Message-ID: <0M548MAArOy0Ew$j@elsato97.demon.co.uk> But hey, stuflike this won best cool llist thing on te indie pop list which apprently is dead cool and groovey which, um..... AIR! You know what? If i ever meet AIR I will shoot them all and then laugh because its either that or cry with boredom when I read another email saying ooh they're ace. I'll tell you whos ace. LIONEL VINYL ON RED ROSE GOLD 999AM! He *is* jazz club! Anyone in the north west, tune into his show. I'm going to rign up for B&S. heehee that should be funny. Hey, um, don't laugh at me Spanish people, I'm doing Spanish GCSE to A- Level (aaaaaah!) and I'll do the best I can :-) tengo Tigermilk tambien, y um, no soy bueno con espanol. um , please help me if I make any silly mistakes.....oh i feel ignorant and stoopid now. Begginers Spanish. And i cannae even spell in English. Unfair. Estoy tirando (?), y too tired de pensar. Hey hey hey! I just read an email from a 'new fan'. Wow! Do i count as an 'old fan?'!!! I wish I do, I always seem to miss out becuase I'm ill and got a headache and stuff. Oooh making no sense at all. Well, I know somethig you don't. You see, Belle and Sebastian were playing a gig in Cornwall. And they loved the local cusine. But 'cos Cornwall is posh and stuff, they couldn't afford the pasties, being for the upper class jetset of Cornwall. So Sarah (i love Sarah SHE'S ACE!) said 'oooh, le pastie de la bougeosie', and everyone said 'oh Sarah thats so great, we'll use that as a song title, rallying against the exclusivisation (?) of local delicasies for the already privileged upper classes'. And thats why its called 'Le pastie de la bougeiosie'. HA. Um, what else did I have to say? I can't think. So it can't be imporatant. I hate colds. They are sooo nasty its unfair. And I've just got glass of water that tastes like sweeteners oh bugegr! Hey, I'm on the internet go and look at me. Not that you'd want to. Sorry. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "It's not unusual to be loooved by anyone.." --Tom Jones, the MAN! The man with the magic crotch! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Fri Jan 23 20:53:38 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:53:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: [Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail] Message-ID: <34C90352.A613D8BE@totalweb.co.uk> this always happens, please fill in your reply-to details in your prefs. and while i'm here, if your using communicator 4, please check that the option under edit>preferences>mail&group>messages is switched to NOT send html by default. apparently this causes some people not to see your message (as was the case with jeepster and recently us). thanks david sorry for the lack of b&s content, but this is a common list problem apparently -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Mail Administrator Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:44:59 +0000 Size: 4089 URL: From mkobayas at xxx.edu Sat Jan 24 01:04:41 1998 From: mkobayas at xxx.edu (Michi Kobayashi) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 17:04:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: puncture magazine... Message-ID: <199801240104.RAA00044@rigel.oac.uci.edu> hallo sinister kids, just went to the bookstore today, and found a magazine called 'puncture' with an article of belle and sebastian...it is an U.S. magazine and featured pictures of stuart m. and isobel from the NY gigs.... i found it to be very boring but for all who are interested..stop by your local bookstore.. enjoy! michi** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Sat Jan 24 03:39:17 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 98 03:39:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&SC Message-ID: <199801240337.DAA11162@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> >> That's what we really want to know. We could build up a small register of >> venues from all over who are known to have joined the cause :-) > >Do they play Belle and Sebastian in Evol? (look there is some relevance > >here) Well, I can confirm EVOL doesn't play B&S. It's shite as well (unless you like a night of Oasis and Cypress Hill) Please let us know if there are any places in countries other than the UK who would play B&S and make a night out very special. >Vinyl Tap in Leeds is selling a poster of Lazy Line Painter Jane in case >anyone's interested. A snip at seven pounds, I'm sure you'll all agreeŠ Pam Berry take note!!! What is 7 UK pounds in US Greenbacks? Love and cherish LLPJ posters, they should not have monetary value. Jeepster - What are these encoded MIME file thingies I keep receiving? For all I know I may be receiving the meaning of life, or a prize such as B&S playing in my club for nothing. 'cept I can't read them. Yours, drunk as a Lord, The Lairdster. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Sat Jan 24 12:10:32 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 98 04:10:32 PST Subject: Sinister: Hot Licks Press Release Message-ID: P R E S S R E L E A S E It's finally happened. The day metal fans everywhere have been waiting for. Hot Licks Records is pleased to announce a new compilation that sees the reformation of some of the hottest and heaviest metal bands ever. And it's all thanks to one band. Belle and Sebastian. This Scottish combo have won the hearts of die hard metal musicians everywhere. What does some Scottish band I've never heard of have to do with this record, you might ask? Well, we have just released a tribute record to Belle and Sebastian. On it you'll find the likes of Ace Frehley, Lita Ford, Ozzy, and many more all doing their favorite Belle and Sebastian songs. Just listen to what Ronnie James Dio had to say: "Well, I was record shopping, you know, and i saw this record that said if ' If You're Feeling Sinister '. And, you know, well, I was. So I bought it. I got home and gave it a spin and I nearly ejaculated all over my satanic scribblings. It sounded so evil. and, well, i'm pretty evil, aren't I ? Aren't I ? " Yes folks. And that's not the end. Just look at this track listing: 1. The State I Am In................................Stryper 2. Belle and Sebastian.........................Dokken 3. Mary Jo..................................................RATT 4. Expectations........................................Krokus 5. Electronic Renaissance..................Frehley's Comet 6. Lazy Line Painter Jane......................Kip Winger (duet with Lita Ford) 7. Dog on Wheels....................................Ozzy Osborne 8. Photo Jenny..........................................Queensryche 9. Judy and the Dream of Horses......Vinnie Vincent Invasion 10. The Boy Done Wrong Again.........Accept 11. A Century of Fakers.........................The Scorpions 12. Put the Book Back on the Shelf.....W.A.S.P. And that's only side one. This is truly history in the making. And it also features guest appearances by Belle and Sebastian's own "5th Beatle", Mick Cook. So, if you like your metal hard and fast (and we know you do), then rush out and get the new album today. "Sinister: The Songs of Belle and Sebastian" on Hot Licks Records. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Fri Jan 23 19:31:35 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Arantxa Ubieta / Peter Miller) Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:31:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Steward's enquiry Message-ID: <01bd2835$8470bac0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB Para: sinister Fecha: viernes 23 de enero de 1998 19:56 Asunto: Sinister: Steward's enquiry >It's interesting how SM's less parochial songs, the ones that don't tell you a >story about some girl and her adventures, or include lines about, say, >throwing discus for Liverpool and Widnes, tend to be less favoured. Songs like >"The Boy Done Wrong Again", "You Made Me Forget My Dreams" or, in a different >way, "Electronic Renaissance". I'm really suprised about TBDRA now being >bottom of the heap - sometines it's my favourite song on IFYS. When the piano >goes d-d-da-da da-da (my musical training serves me well again) and I hear the >line "All I wanted was to sing the saddest song" my heart very nearly breaks >. > >A tearful Nick > I agree with tearful Nick, it's definitely one of my favourite songs. Keith, your description of Air has certainly cleared up any doubts I may have had. That's the second time you've described something as being like John Martyn crossed with something unlikely in recent weeks. I'll have to have a listen to John Martyn sometime. Lest we forget, bashful Amanda Bergman is always talking about her Spanish homework, so I think she can be added to the list of people getting a big hug from Elizabeth, like it or not. I am now using Outlook Express. Good old Microsoft, the Mr Kipling of information technology. Mussadiq, our resident revolving wether cock, I need your address to send you this tape I've finally got round to doing. I managed not to put any Elton John on it. I've been looking at the photos on Paul's webpage today. Somebody's been cutting pictures out of magazines, haven't they? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Jan 24 12:16:23 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:16:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: arse poo feck feck feck. Message-ID: Never listen to Honey. Otherwise known as HoneyEncouragerToMakeEveryonePoor. He invents this fabulous IRC room. He makes me go. And my phone bill is telling me I owe them 66 pounds. I am not a happy bunny. And John and Laurel and Matt and Paul and Andy and Tag and everyone else I have talked to on there, well, it was fun! I have now deleted my program from my home pooter. However it is not delted from my u:\ drive at college heehee. I don't know if I am allowed to have that there but I do. So I will try and join 4 to 4.30 and during the day. I am a most uncontent bunny. In fact I am a very upset bunny. Never listen to Honey. He'll break your heart into little pieces. Oh I don't mean that I'm only kidding. If anybody would like to help me out with the phonebill..... I'm not at *all* proud! :-) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah I'm too melancholy to quote Tom Jones. What can I quote? "The difference between love and comfort Is that comfort is more reliable and true Brutal and mocking yet always there A crutch for emnitys saddest glare" --Comfort Comes by the Manic Street Preachers. I am feeling even more stupid due to my first ever proper interview with the Pastels not recording due to borrowing a dodgy tape. Nothing works out right. And even when it did record, I wish it didn't becuase my voice is horrible. But hey. Coulda been worse. I could be very ill at the moment. Oh I am. Bugger.... Sorry, i forget this aint the Sinister counselling service :o) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mdp21 at xxx.uk Sat Jan 24 16:02:31 1998 From: mdp21 at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:02:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilkround, and Air Message-ID: To save the bother of writing to everyone individually, just thought I'd say that anyone who has asked me for a tape, I will be sending them out as soon as I can, and hopefully all by Monday. Isn't the Air record good? My flatmate, who is normally indifferent to all my CDs, has borrowed it already. I am suspicious that a member of this list has written its review in my uni paper - not only did it get half a page of uninterrupted praise, but the headline was 'Belle-Air'. Does anyone own up? Bad news: Dubstar have postponed their Cambridge date due to food poisoning. I went to see them here two years ago and they cancelled then as well. Finally, does anyone know if B&S are touring the new album? Yours busily making tapes, Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Sat Jan 24 16:09:47 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:09:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Back-handed compliments a-go-go In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well I don't think anyone's mentioned this yet, but in this week's Melody Maker there's an interview with the Lilys (the ones from the new Levi's ad). And the singer says that the only new band he respects is Belle and Sebastian, because the singer is nearly as bad as he is. I'm not entirely sure how to take that one... As for tactical voting on the web page, well that's always going to happen when we've only got a choice of 0 to 10. If I happen to think that one particular song (say towards the end of side 2 of Tigermilk?) sounds like a Beautiful South B-side, and is the only lacklustre song B&S have recorded, then I'm bound to give it 0 out of 10, to indicate that I don't like it as much as the others. That's not to say that I don't like it more than, say, the Sp*c* G*rls. Oh, and cheer up Sarah, you're not the only one feeling miserable, at least you're not (as far as I know!) on painkillers and various other drugs at the moment 'cos of an operation last Monday :-( Can I have some sympathy now please? The Tall Git PS Julia, cheers for the tape, it arrived this morning, I'll get back to you soon. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From wac at xxx.uk Sat Jan 24 16:52:01 1998 From: wac at xxx.uk (WesleySniper) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 16:52:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: help! In-Reply-To: <34C7829F.DCF4B879@virgin.net> Message-ID: I need to get in tune with you peeps, so i can get on your wavelength - could any of you help by possibly taping me a copy of "Tigermilk"? e-mail me privately if you can help, it will be much appeciated! wac at coventry.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From yazansam at xxx.uk Sat Jan 24 19:11:27 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Yaz) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:11:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: arse, feck feck feck Message-ID: <199801241917.TAA21264@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> An ill Stuart Gardiner rote: >Oh, and cheer up Sarah, you're not the only one feeling miserable, at least you're not (as far as I know!) on painkillers and various other drugs at the moment 'cos of an operation last Monday :-( Can I have some sympathy now please? Dear Tall Git, you can have my sympathetic aaahs... & (did it hurt?) (and pray tell, what exactly are these very vague "various other drugs" ? ) A mysterious Mr. Peter rote: >Keith, your description of Air has certainly cleared up any doubts I may have had. That's the second time you've described something as being like John Martyn crossed with something unlikely in recent weeks. I'll have to have a listen to John Martyn sometime. Alright, what is this with a divorced middle-aged ex-alckie bald tosser otherwise known as Mr. John Martyn? And WHO dares to say he's better than my beloved Nick Drake, anyway? I'll tell you who - the leadsinger offa Mainstream who, when i interviewed them, reckoned that Martyn was "the real thing" and that Nick was just some sort of shallow imposter........... wanker. Anyway, wasn't Martyn Nick's friend/producer/irritatin plagiarist? But boys and girls, I have since softened and decided to listen to a couple of his albums - anyone got in any suggestions for his finest hour that i shooulddefinitely buy? Finally, a sad, sad sarah wrote: >Never listen to Honey. Otherwise known as HoneyEncouragerToMakeEveryonePoor. He invents this fabulous IRC room. He makes me go. And my phone bill is telling me I owe them 66 pounds. I am not a happy bunny. Honeypie Paulie Poos - I've forgotten the very grown-up secret seven stylee password. Au revoir mes cuties, Yaz xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Sat Jan 24 19:41:54 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 14:41:54 EST Subject: Sinister: My wayward reasoning Message-ID: <3b379ea0.34ca4404@aol.com> Today I went to the mall to pick up my first pair of glasses. I put them on after leaving the store; my depth perception was a bit skewed. I bumped into people and things until I found myself at a record store. It was the one where I bought "If You're Feeling Sinister" back around 12 May. I had had a gift certificate to the store from my sister; I was forced to purchase the overpriced CDs. I felt guilty shopping there even though I was not even spending my own money. I thought I would probably like the record--I had been hearing how amazing it was for months on other pop! mailing lists and the cover was beautiful--I bought it. When I listened to the album at home the song "Seeing Other People" was the first one to make my insides feel like they were being twisted around (though in turn each song has done that). My parents had been talking to me about their concerns of my "sexual identity" (I still do not understand why they were worried); that song made me feel like I would just cry. Consequently, I voted very highly for that song. Another song I gave a high score was "Belle and Sebastian" largely due to the line "...Sebastian wrote in his diary that/He would never be young again/But you will". The timelessness of life--of your own person--age is what you make of it, at least that is what I thought of it. In early September I took a rest from reading of dead Romans, laid on my back in Regents Park, under the sun before its annual cool, and listened to the song over and over. So this is life, I thought. "Expectations" was elected to the top of my charts also. Oh, not just the horrors of high school, but of other people and life in general, kicking, or looking up your skirt, when you are down; the power of music to calm and help us commiserate and empathise with others about the horrid parts of life. And those are just a few reasons why I voted the way I did. Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From wac at xxx.uk Sat Jan 24 20:51:44 1998 From: wac at xxx.uk (WesleySniper) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 20:51:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: people In-Reply-To: <199801241917.TAA21264@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: I am sat here. staring at this screen trying to come up with an answer. An answer to my dreams which are floating around at the very bottom of my brain. An answer to my fears which are in the upper middle part of my brain, and most of all i'm looking for an answer to my essay title, and if it is pieced together the result may...just may swing the dreams and fears i have upside down...... WEZ studying at the weekend. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mavgc at xxx.uk Sun Jan 25 16:50:37 1998 From: mavgc at xxx.uk (Mr J J Sansom) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:50:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh clubs Message-ID: Hi everyone, I'm gonna be in Edinburgh at the weekend on a charity hitch from Coventry.So I was wondering if anyone could suggest some good alternative clubs I could visit on Friday or Saturday night Joe xxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PMA97CW at xxx.uk Sun Jan 25 23:58:48 1998 From: PMA97CW at xxx.uk (Chris Worth) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 23:58:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh clubs Message-ID: <190F6BC2371@pebley.shef.ac.uk> someone wrote... > I'm gonna be in Edinburgh at the weekend on a charity hitch from > Coventry.So I was wondering if anyone could suggest some good alternative > clubs I could visit on Friday or Saturday night NO!!!! are we now going to have another week of arguing over the good / bad alternative nightlife in edinburgh??? i really hope not; can we have something else? how about lemurs??? went to the fanclub site to vote before and was quite amused to see averages and standard deviations etc. is someone going to do a Snow Swing-o-meter? that would be impressive... chris. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Sun Jan 25 13:07:17 1998 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 25 Jan 1998 13:07:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Sinister lyrics Message-ID: <1032912894.449941613@andyclin.exnet.com> bradford,parachute at earthlink.net,Internet writes: one of kept saying: "i know someone who knows someone who knows alan mcgee quite well" and the other was talking of how he had everything by a certain band "on = tape". who can enlighten me on who this is and if they're any good? Both of those are lyrics by The Pooh Sticks, a mid-to-late '80's twee band from South Wales. "On Tape" was a single. Cheers, Rocker rocker at andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Mon Jan 26 10:11:38 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:11:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: UK listees only: Dance to B&S/indiepop/C86/pop-punk classics thi Message-ID: <649CDE86F9C@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Its that time of the month again..... ......and this time its our first birthday party, complete with indiepop cake and shiny balloons! Offbeat ..... A bit different from your average indie night - where else could you hear Helen Love, Half Man Half Biscuit, The Field Mice, Dead Kennedys and Belle & Sebastian played in sequence !!?? OFFBEAT - a real indiepop night....... FRIDAY 30th JANUARY (1st Birthday party) FRIDAY 13th FEBRUARY FRIDAY 13th MARCH with late bar, free lollipops and request sheets Sheffield Uni' SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome) 9pm to 1am, £2.50 on the door... on Saturday 1st November Friday 5th December Playing......Classic Indie, Punk POP 1977-1997 and C86/C96/new underground of indiepop..... HELEN LOVE-HEAVENLY-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN-DELGADOS COMET GAIN-SULTANS OF PING FC-IDLEWILD-CORNERSHOP DWEEB-CHAMELEONS-PASTELS-R.E.M.-SMITHS-PAVEMENT- FALL- BLUR-JAM-HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT-TALULAH GOSH- SUPER FURRY ANIMALS-ELASTICA-CURVE-URUSEI YATSURA- BOGSHED-TIGER-SNUFF-DEAD KENNEDYS-PWEI-CARTER USM- DISCO PISTOL- COMET GAIN -VELODROME 2000-ANORAK GIRL STEREOLAB-CHINA DRUM-BLAGGERS ITA- BUZZCOCKS-BIS- WEDDING PRESENT-ASH-SONIC YOUTH-BODINES-PIXIES-CUD PRIMAL SCREAM (early)-GENE-SHOP ASSISTANTS-FIELD MICE CHILLS-PETER AND THE TEST TUBE BABIES-BLUEBOY-SCARFO. plus many more in the same vein...... for more details/to join the Offbeat mailing list email C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Mon Jan 26 10:19:51 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:19:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Does this work if not, please e-mail me ... Message-ID: <34CC6347.746C1D69@virgin.net> Well, to all those who had problems with my mails before, does this make sense to you? I hope so ... Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Jan 26 10:38:36 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:38:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm ill I'm excused for rubbish like this NER!...Ditto ! Message-ID: <01BD2A46.930B23A0@pc07628> Sarah Wrote : >AIR! You know what? If i ever meet AIR I will shoot them all and then >laugh because its either that or cry with boredom when I read another >email saying ooh they're ace. Please, once they're dead...pump 'em full of lead from me as well...or take an axe and hack their limbs off....or try canibalism or something. >Well, I know somethig you don't. You see, Belle and Sebastian were >playing a gig in Cornwall. And they loved the local cusine. But 'cos >Cornwall is posh and stuff, they couldn't afford the pasties, being for >the upper class jetset of Cornwall. So Sarah (i love Sarah SHE'S ACE!) >said 'oooh, le pastie de la bougeosie', and everyone said 'oh Sarah >thats so great, we'll use that as a song title, rallying against the >exclusivisation (?) of local delicasies for the already privileged upper >classes'. And thats why its called 'Le pastie de la bougeiosie'. Why in God's name would Belle and Sebastian even consider going to Cornwall, let alone play a gig there ? We are talking about the same Cornwall...South West peninsula next door to Devon and all that ? As a Devonian, born (in a barn, obviously!) and bred of 26 years, that obviously makes me a bloody expert on Cornwall... I am Adrian "Knowledge of all things Cornwallian(?)" Evans to you ! "Posh and Stuff" ? It's a poo-hole ! It's like one big field with one road, and loads of caravans and cow-shit and funny old fishermen who talk a different language and all look about 80 but really they're only 24 cos the sea air has battered they're faces for so long and i'm going to get some punctuation in here somewhere wait for it here it comes its just coming round the corner now wait ! aaaaahhh. Cornwall is Gods waiting room. >HA. Ha indeed ! >Um, what else did I have to say? I can't think. So it can't be >imporatant. I hate colds. They are sooo nasty its unfair. And I've just >got glass of water that tastes like sweeteners oh bugegr! Get Well soon Sarah ! then nip down your local Field Sports shop and buy that rifle....you know it makes sense ! -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mkorchia at xxx.fr Mon Jan 26 13:02:02 1998 From: mkorchia at xxx.fr (Michael Korchia) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:02:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mumbly Cd out on Marsh Marigold References: <199801221519.PAA01936@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34CC894A.2642@club-internet.fr> Well, this is an ad, which I think is not irrelevant on this list! The 1st Mumbly album 'Being Ernest' is out on Marsh Marigold. We're a French indiepop band, but most songs are in English (10 in english, 4 in french, including a Serge Gainsbourg cover). There's a mix of male & female vocals. The sound and the music probably draw comparisons to Felt, the Feelies, the Field Mice. And of course: when we mixed the album, a few months ago, Aurore guitarist/ singer & myself were listening to B&S ALL THE TIME (we still are, even though I expected better than the last 3 CDep). So when the sound engineer wanted to listen to CD whose sound we love, we played him stuff by Felt, Luna, & of Course 'IYFS' by guess who. I said I just wanted the same drums sound. You can order it from me: 15 dollars, 8 pounds, 23 DM, 80 FF, etc.... postage included. Or 20 dollars, 11 pounds, 30 DM, 110FF if you order it along with Watoo Watoo Cdep 'un Peu de Moi' (my other band). Thanks for reading (and, errrr..... for buying) Michael Korchia 315, rue de Belleville 75019 Paris France -- Michael Korchia mkorchia at club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/05/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/00/aurore/emumbly.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eng7scj at xxx.UK Mon Jan 26 14:11:51 1998 From: eng7scj at xxx.UK (S.C. JAYAWARDENA) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:11:51 GMT Subject: Sinister: enough! Message-ID: <1313A585BD9@arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Mon Jan 26 14:19:21 1998 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:19:21 GMT Subject: Sinister: don't vote, cause trouble Message-ID: <57EE6594B3F@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Voting is not a right, it's something you earn. Only those who earn citizenship are permitted to vote. Sorry, I was straying on the boundaries of fascism for a moment there, in an attempt at satire. Has anybody else heard that Sarah Brightman 'Starship Troopers' record? I bet Keith has. Now that we've all gone out and bought Air's entire back catalogue, can I heartily recommend the Ben Lee album? S'called 'Something To Remember Me By' and is out on Grand Royal. He used to be in Noise Addict, but this is mostly acoustic, and sounds damn peachy, like your first Lemonheads album, or Nick Drake played by the guy out of 'Boy Meets World'. Money Mark makes an appearance, as do the Blooze Explosion, Mike Diamond, and, I think, one of the ladies from Sleater Kinney. There's your B&S connection if you need one. I'm sure Stuart Murdoch is friends with them. For those who haven't got 'Moon Safari', take extra dollar with you and buy 'All Saints' as well, conveniently next to it in Our Price. The second best walkman tape ever. I'll fight anyone who doesn't adore the resurrection job they do on 'Under the Bridge'. How many days has the queen mum got left? Let's start a sweepstake. Diamond Joe Quimby ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Mon Jan 26 12:54:18 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:54:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I was dreaming sinister Message-ID: <199801261505.PAA08805@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> OK so i've never had a Belle and Sebastian dream but last night I had a list dream! Although I don't remember too much about it, it clearly featured; archaelogy, a wedding and certain prominent list members (none of whom were being dug up or getting married and all of whom were fully clothed at all times I hasten to add). I'm not going to do any "naming and shaming", but I thought I should share with the group. I had been watching Time Team and Honeymoon in Vegas which explains part of it and listening to a lot of Belle and Sebastian (particularly Photo Jenny which I undervoted seriously, David). Sinister, I'd call it. John xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Mon Jan 26 15:55:33 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 16:55:33 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Mumbly Cd out on Marsh Marigold Message-ID: <199801261555.QAA06434@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Michael Korchia wrote ... >Well, this is an ad, which I think is not irrelevant on this list! Well, this is blatant self-promotion, isn't it ? §;^D >The 1st Mumbly album 'Being Ernest' is out on Marsh Marigold. >We're a French indiepop band, but most songs are in English (10 in >english, 4 in french, including a Serge Gainsbourg cover). There's a mix >of male & female vocals. Nice album, outstanding tracks are "Demain", "Les reflets", "The empty room" and "Shame has spread its wings on me" ... an appropriate record to fill in the time of desperation until the release of the new B&S album, now that people already start falling for stuff like Air ... >The sound and the music probably draw comparisons to Felt, the Feelies, >the Field Mice. ... and Fantastic Something, but I've been told from reliable sources that they have not even heard of this band. §;^D >You can order it from me: 15 dollars, 8 pounds, 23 DM, 80 FF, etc.... >postage included. >Or 20 dollars, 11 pounds, 30 DM, 110FF if you order it along with Watoo >Watoo Cdep 'un Peu de Moi' (my other band). Wow ... that's a "steal" ... how much is the Watoo Watoo CDs on its own ? Delete button working overtime ? Once more ... >Michael Korchia >315, rue de Belleville >75019 Paris >France Only wondering whether they'll be given the opportunity to support B&S in the future ... the bass player, a disguised stand-up-comedian, is worth your money alone. "Funny ha ha" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From O9716742 at xxx.UK Mon Jan 26 15:30:08 1998 From: O9716742 at xxx.UK (David OReilly) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 15:30:08 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <34CC6347.746C1D69@virgin.net> Message-ID: right. im pretty pissed off. although im a pretty new bas fan, i still absolutely adore "if your feeling...." and the eps. i therefore have very little bad to say about this wonderful band. except this. WHY OH WHY OH WHY WONT THEY JUST GET UP OF THEIR ARSES, DO A TOUR, DO JOOLS HOLLAND ETC SO WE CAN ACTUALLY FIND OUT WHAT THE FUCK THEY LOOK LIKE?? before any die-hard fans plot to kill me for even daring to criticize their beloved band, surely its what everyone wants?? the two recent gigs in manchester seemed destined to get bad reviews and apparently they refused to do jools holland cause they were asked to do "stars of track and field". this seems totally ridiculous. i personally would love to see them live, but as i live in belfast, it seems inevitable they will deny me this pleasure. and it really gets on my nerves. if they have planned a tour, then great, but it seems to me there is no excuse for there actions in the past. why don't they do (proper) interviews?? why haven't we seen their faces on the tellie?? if they don't like the music press, fair enough, but surely they understand its not these people they are speaking to, but there fans?? having this strange attitude may seem a quality to some, but at the end of the day i personally feel i am missing out on something brilliant. does anyone agree, or am i talking complete bollix?? either way, i suppose it could be said i should settle for the brilliant music, don't expect to much and shut to fuck up and listen.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From oc245d8aff at xxx.net Mon Jan 26 10:54:31 1998 From: oc245d8aff at xxx.net (Arantxa Ubieta / Peter Miller) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:54:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Bert Jansch Message-ID: <01bd2a48$c87ba440$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Chris Worth Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: lunes 26 de enero de 1998 2:44 Asunto: Re: Sinister: Edinburgh clubs someone wrote... NO!!!! are we now going to have another week of arguing over the good / bad alternative nightlife in edinburgh??? i really hope not; can we have something else? YES!!! We can discuss Bert Jansch.... "An even bigger impact on Nick as a teenager was made by Bert Jansch.....Jansch's striking gypsy good looks and apparently effortless fluency on the guitar made a mark on all those who heard his records or saw him play in the folk clubs of the mid-sixties. Neil Young cited jansch as being as much of an influence on his guitar-playing as Jimi Hendrix." There, I hope that has answered a question from a week or two ago. Admittedly my own question, but there you are. John and Beverly Martin also feature quite heavily in the Nick Drake story, more as collaborators and buddies than as producers and plagiarists, so far at least. Fairport Convention too. Did anybody see Johnny Marr at the Manchester B&S concerts? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Mon Jan 26 17:18:02 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:18:02 GMT Subject: Sinister: Autour de Saint Lucie Message-ID: <34cec020.1278885@email.mcmail.com> Bonjour Cette lettre ne s'agit pas de Belle et Sebastian. J'ai une question pour nos copains (et copines, naturellement) a l'Hexagone. Ce weekend j'ai achete une disque ('Chanson sans issue') par Autour de Lucie et c'est hyper-hyper-yum-yum. Peut-etre quelqu'un peut me dire plus (en privee, pas sur la liste) de cette groupe qui a attrape ma coeur. Merci...je vous embrasse. Le Tageur xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Mon Jan 26 17:37:05 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:37:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Silence is golden Message-ID: <199801261739.RAA14397@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Apart from dreaming about listees this weekend and an unfortunate incident whereby I was singing Pulp's Common People but actualy saying "I want to sleep with Village People" (I suddenly realised what an apocalyptic image that was and promptly stopped) I had a bit of a thought about the Great Debate over professionalism etc after the Manchester gigs. Basically it struck me that I don't really mind all the gaps between songs etc. That's the way the band works and they need to swap instruments and change positions and all that. It's just that this tends to happen in unrelenting silence. Typically they will finish one of their outstanding songs, there will be rapturous applause from the adoring fans, calculated indifference from the music journalists and then the long dark tea-time that is the GAP begins. I'm not saying Sarah should smash her Stylophone and say "Godamn Cirencester - you rock!!!", but "Donovan Lovedrake" style interludes or musings about B&S and where they get their riffs from are so few and far between. Maybe "sticks" Colbourn could come out and do an interpretive dance or perhaps some conjuring, or "bleedin gums" Cooke could show us a trick with a hula hoop. Maybe even there could be a bit of chat/general sharing of vibes. They are such charming lovely people they shouldn't just let their music do the talking. Of course my problem is that I've always been acutely embarrased by awkward silences. I was always volunteering for things I didn't want at school, just to break that buttock-clenchingly awful silence. "Who wants to be class rep....?" *PAUSE* "I will". "Who wants a detention?" *PAUSE* "Oh alright, I'll have a detention..." Anyway next time they tour, I'll be there - gaps or no gaps. John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Mon Jan 26 18:26:39 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:26:39 -0800 Subject: Sinister: shakin your groove thang to B&S Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF030A0214@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Plaird wrote: Please let us know if there are any places in countries other than the UK who would play B&S and make a night out very special. So about a month ago (it was sometime before Christmas, that's all I remember) I VAGUELY remember seeing B&S listed on a playlist at San Fran's everso popular "britpop-indie-mod" poseur disco Popscene A bit tipsy I was, so can't for the life of me recall the song... The "new music playlist" alas, is the stuff that gets aired within the club's first hour of opening when the place is practically empty Therefore the only people who DID hear the B&S if it was played were, umm, the Dj and bartenders. BTW cheers to everybody who responded to my query on Places to Go in London!!! see you at Catatonia perchance... will be the confused american rushing in just in time to catch the last 15 mins after getting lost on the way to the venue HAHA And props to Amanda Bergman for the tigermilk YOU ARE A DOLL!!! tata Taracita Spiceworld was fab ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.walker15 at xxx.net Mon Jan 26 19:13:04 1998 From: david.walker15 at xxx.net (David Walker) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:13:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: don't vote, cause trouble References: <57EE6594B3F@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34CCE040.321C@virgin.net> Hello, You wrote (and I quote !) "How many days has the queen mum got left? Let's start a sweepstake. Diamond Joe Quimby" The Queen Mum (God bless her !) will never die. She will become like Davros in Dr Who (or has anyone seen that episode of The Simpsons where just the head in the future is kept alive ?) and outlive us all. She is a testing ground for all scientific developments before they are given to us, the common people in many years !! Or am I becoming mildly paranoid ? Cheers, Tintin. -- David Walker The Walker Homepage And Guide To Bolton: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/ Got A Paul Weller link ? Need A Paul Weller link ? Check.... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/links.html (Unfinished version now up and running) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrewn at xxx.edu Mon Jan 26 22:53:39 1998 From: andrewn at xxx.edu (Andrew Hung Nguyen) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:53:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Tour of US in late spring Message-ID: I read in a the Orange County(near LA) newspaper that B&S are planning to play a couple of shows in late spring to celebrate being signed to Matador. Wow I hope it is true. Waiting in anticipation, Andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Mon Jan 26 22:55:19 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:55:19 EST Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk for sale? Message-ID: <9a91ac41.34cd145a@aol.com> A friend of mine who works in a second hand record shop called me this morning to let me know that a vinyl copy of Tigermilk had come in. I'm not prepared to shell out the seventy quid required (particularly as I have no record player), but if anyone has a desperate urge to own, cherish, stroke and otherwise fondle said rare objet, the shop is called Shakedown Records in Camden, Norf Lahndan (24 Inverness Street). NB This is not a cheap ad for my mate's shop - it's meant more as a public service announcement, based upon my (maybe mistaken) belief that there aren't that many copies available. OK? Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Jan 26 23:20:23 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:20:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: my lover stands on golden sands... Message-ID: <199801262320.SAA15620@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear Sinister sweetie-pies, Hello! So did you all have a good week? I get to be a Draculette for this play! I had to go up on stage and sing a song I knew well...I thought of singing Belle and Sebastian(guess what,my friend is going out with a 'really foxy boy' and his name is Sebastian...well not exactly..it's Jean-Sebastian..but close enough!) but the first song that came to my head was Somewhere Beyond The Sea...I forgot the rest of the song after I'd sung the first bit,but I think the teachs like it...don't know what a Draculette does,but I'm it! Anyways...so I went to my friends birthday party last night..it was really cosy..at times too cosy,I was squished under 5 idiots who kept telling me how they lit a tree on fire...there were like 20 something people in this tiny tiny room..and it was all dark...with just black lights and we allpiled on one another on these lovely couches...but now I'm afraid,this guy there is scaring me..he tried to cover my face with his hand to see if I'd trust him..it's not a matter of trust,I jsut don't want somebodys hand covering my face!So I moved away and sat on a ledge by the window over the couches observing everything, to get some air...and suddenly he's there telling me about all these bands I don't knowand do I like White Zombie but I'm looking at him from upside down on my back..and it's funny you know...because it looks like his chin is his nose and I'm mesmerized by this..and later while trying to sit closer to someone ELSE I complained about my foot falling asleep when he suddenly starts giving me a foot rub and I'm like 'oh..lovely,we're friends now,he's my gal-pal,we can go to the spa together' but no no,we're not just friends to him.. so anywyas,things went from bad to worse..ahhh...ick ick ick....scary,I need one of you to jump in a box and get sent here,to pose as a boyfriend for a day! I am not looking forward to monday... This other guy borrowed my discman for class and IYFS was in it and when he came back he said he hated them,that they sounded like they were background music at high school b-movies or soemthing..I don't know!..he was babbling out of control,and he made some rude comments so I smacked him against the lockers. Where can I find Belle and Sebastian t-shirts,or are they all stolen!? I will run through the fields with it on so happily if I could get one! The last of the red dye drained down the sink,I am back to a brunette...so now this bring up more dilemma...chop all hair off? *sigh* All the boyz are watching the Super Bowl!...half time show... What...would...make..me...feel..this...way..MY girl..my girl.. my boy...talking bout my stu...my stu! ;) you're all so delicious... xoxo Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Jan 26 23:20:53 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:20:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: sha la la la Message-ID: <199801262320.SAA15649@Vector.inexpress.net> oh look it's another mail from me....! dearest Adrian, >You should come to England and ply your trade as a Dream Doctor. >I have two weeks of insomnia, two weeks on tranquilisers, and not a = >single dream ! >I receive one message from you my dear, and hey presto I'm back in = >dreamland ! oooh..are you serious? But you know what they say...that you're dreaming every night,but you just don't know it...I wish I could remember a lot more,cause I know i'm having lovely lovely lovely dreams,but as soon as I wake up..*poof!* gone! 2 weeks...how could you survive,I can't stand it when I don't get a good nights sleep...nice hot bath helps....but sometimes I think I migth fall asleep into the water.... >Unfortunately not a B&S dream...but bizarre non-the-less..... >I got on the bus to work, and the bloke in front of me paid for me. >Then at lunchtime i went and met my best mate and we stole something, I = >can't remember what. And we were being chased down this alley >between two rows of terraced houses, but this alley was in the middle of = >being resurfaced and we were knee deep in aggregates and then a = >steam-roller started coming the other way.....AAAAGGGGHHH...way out ! = >But there was this little doorway we managed to squeeze into while the = >steam-roller passed us. i found a bucket in the doorway and it was full = >of snails, so we took it back to my friends house..(Lord knows what = >happened to the people who were chasing us). He didn't want me to take = >the bucket into his house, so I threw in a water butt outside his = >house....only it wasn't his house it was my mums. And we went to bed = >(not together for christs sake) in our lunch hours !! >And when we got up to go back to work, we walked out of the house and = >the snails had multiplied and there were just literally thousands of = >them. >And that was it ! Hmmm...that's a pretty strange dreams!I had a dream with the Stuart David look-a-like..does that count? I was at my locker and we was like 'Why didn't you name your cat Sousa?' (said with lovely smile) 'Oh!' I reply 'I could've called it Lusk...' 'No,darling..forget him..call it Sousa....' This is good. >DOES ANYONE ANALYSE DREAMS ???? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN. ....a gift of jewlrey wil be offered to you...... When the piano >goes d-d-da-da da-da (my musical training serves me well again) and I hear the >line "All I wanted was to sing the saddest song" my heart very nearly breaks >. > >A tearful Nick tearful NIck,I love that bit too...it's one of my favourites too...I shall weep with you...I still love Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying..I love the little bits in songs were his Scottish accent goes extra strong.. shhhhhh..... *big kisses 'n hugs* Genevieve Julian,if you get kicked out of your apartment you can live with me. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Jan 26 23:20:47 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:20:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: piggys in a shoebox Message-ID: <199801262320.SAA15642@Vector.inexpress.net> >I am sorry to disappoint you but in a moment of madness I purchased the = >longpigs album...it now sits in a NIKE shoebox with all the other Cd's = >that I don't think i'll ever listen to again. ohhhh!my poor longpiggys,they're in your shoebox? Sweet Simon Stafford,once I am able to,I shall come to London and kidnap you in the night and show you what you are missing.... Ummm.... I do have a point to this email,I've waited long enough,but I cna't bear any longer,can someone please please please make me a copy of Tigermilk/those session things? I will love you forever and I'll make something for you in return!...Suede? You like Suede? Yes? No? Ohhh..damn.. Something,anything I will give to you! smooches, Genevieve :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 26 19:57:35 1998 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:57:35 GMT Subject: Sinister: i don't want to start a fight, but... In-Reply-To: References: <34CC6347.746C1D69@virgin.net> Message-ID: > Reply-to: David OReilly > > > right. im pretty pissed off. go listen to "beautiful" then although im a pretty new bas fan, i > still absolutely adore "if your feeling...." and the eps. i > therefore have very little bad to say about this wonderful band. > except this. WHY OH WHY OH WHY WONT THEY JUST GET UP OF THEIR > ARSES, DO A TOUR, DO JOOLS HOLLAND ETC SO WE CAN ACTUALLY FIND > OUT WHAT THE FUCK THEY LOOK LIKE?? because they're sitting in the playground eating sweets pinched from woolies? > before any die-hard fans plot to kill me for even daring to > criticize their beloved band, surely its what everyone wants?? > the two recent gigs in manchester seemed destined to get bad > reviews ah, but do you think they were standing in a room playing making a noise/ having some nice smiles at the time, or were they worrying about what some bloke called cigarettes was going to go home and write on his pc later that night? and apparently they refused to do jools holland cause > they were asked to do "stars of track and field". this seems > totally ridiculous oh woe, they probably still went and had a cup of hot milky tea with him somewhere and explained that no they couldn't do this because no-one could remember the chords. maybe. or perhaps they just didn't want to; ah, there's a key idea, next time somebody asks me to run across a motorway in the interests of science i'll remember that if i don't want to, i don't have to! easy. i personally would love to see them live, > but as i live in belfast, it seems inevitable they will deny me > this pleasure. and it really gets on my nerves. no,no, no! don't think that way! i always think that the band go to places on account of having seen a picture in a book, or maybe fancying driving on a certain road; i like to imagine chris sitting with his chin in his hand saying: "i really should go and visit auntie esther at her home in twickenham; can we have a show in london, please?" > if they have planned a tour, then great, but it seems to me > there is no excuse for there actions in the past. why don't they > do (proper) interviews?? convention is such a tedious world to live in though! why haven't we seen their faces on the > tellie?? steady on, i hope you're not thinking of the national lottery... if they don't like the music press, fair enough, but > surely they understand its not these people they are speaking > to, but there fans?? why do you assume that they're in this "for the fans"? grateful they may be that people in this world buy their records and it's nice to give something back, show gratitude with a gig or the odd appearance, but they're only going to do a larger tour if they find it enjoyable to sit in a bus (o kay, so we know some of them do...) and sing for their supper and do some amount of press etc etc. or if they want some money... who cares about money? ( a rhetorical one, thanks) having this strange attitude may seem a > quality to some by "strange" do you mean just by not toeing the line, not doing the album-single-10 date tour- sort of thing that commonly goes on? it's nice to different, don't you think? they're not that into PR really, are they? does that matter? we can buy the records, we can buy the t-shirts in a variety of sizes, we have a newsletter that serves to inform us of the band's movements and is endearing in it's very modesty, on a few very special days of the year we may get the treat of seeing the kids themselves on stage ... you want them to be media queens? but at the end of the day i personally feel i > am missing out on something brilliant. personally speaking, if this is the way that b&s want to operate, and they keep bringing out records that are never off your turntable and melodies that sound as great when they kick in the morning after you fell asleep to them, who is anyone to argue? > does anyone agree, or am i talking complete bollix?? > either way, i suppose it could be said i should settle for the > brilliant music, don't expect to much and shut to fuck up and > listen.... ah, that's the idea; after all, it's only necessary to know that a celebrity's favourite colour is green and their favourite food is pasta when what they create falls below the mark... kate ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Mon Jan 26 20:02:55 1998 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 20:02:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: create a new and interesting music collection; buy cheap stuff! In-Reply-To: <57EE6594B3F@east-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Message-ID: > For those who haven't got 'Moon Safari', take extra dollar with > you and buy 'All Saints' as well, conveniently next to it in > Our Price. The second best walkman tape ever. I'll fight anyone who > doesn't adore the resurrection job they do on 'Under the Bridge'. > i like your attention to detail. fopp in edinburgh have gor ricky ross's solo album next to the till for 99p on CD. i'm not recommending it, but whilst i was in there 2 customers bought it on impulse! 99p; so much less than £1. kate ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Runegg at xxx.com Tue Jan 27 06:04:18 1998 From: Runegg at xxx.com (Runegg) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:04:18 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: i dream of sinhysteria Message-ID: Hi all. A message about dreaming, also about Tigermilk, and Madonna. I'm a relatively newfangled BAS junkie in New York--does anyone know if Tigermilk is available anywhere in the states? Does someone have tapes? So I hear Matador is signing BAS--what can we expect from Madonna's label?--a publicity blitz a la Alannis Morisette and Prodigy; BAS on every "new music" station, some idiot screaming that they're the most exciting new band since Sugar Ray.... Will we feel so special once that's happened? Oh well. For now, rainy night in New York, no kissing (even for practice) tonight, so I watched the fish salesmen at the Fulton Fishport... listened to what I have... wish I was in Scotland. By the way, for ye who have trouble remembering your dreams, try this: every night before bed, write down five things worth remembering from the day ("red spider on desk", "ate a burrito, it was cold", "fell out of love", etc etc). Keep the paper by your bed. When you wake up, IMMEDIATELY write down the images in your brain at that moment ("stupid alarm clock", "rain leak under window", "something red i can't remember", etc.). Do it every morning and every night. Within two weeks (probably less) you'll start remembering your dreams; you'll wake up and instead of writing "stupid alarm clock" you'll write a novel-length dream.... trust me, it works, just requires a little work. It tricks your brain into showing off its subconscious maze.... It's worth it!! sweet dreams; or have a nice day-- --Ari ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Suhail_Kawar at xxx.com Tue Jan 27 06:04:44 1998 From: Suhail_Kawar at xxx.com (Suhail_Kawar at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 22:04:44 -0800 Subject: Sinister: dead message Message-ID: <88256599.002154E9.00@globalsmtp.idg.com> Received: from firewall ([206.175.46.6]) by globalsmtp.idg.com (Lotus SMTP MTA SMTP v4.6 (462.2 9-3-1997)) with SMTP id 88256595.0078A99A; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 13:57:57 -0800 Received: (from majordomo at localhost) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) id UAA16776 for sinister-outgoing; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:50:59 GMT Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by envy.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id UAA16771 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:50:54 GMT Received: from totalweb.co.uk ([194.168.73.15]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 549-33929U100000L2S50) with ESMTP id AAA18607 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:52:38 +0000 Message-ID: <34C90352.A613D8BE at totalweb.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:53:38 +0000 From: David & Katrina Organization: blue soda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "sinister at majordomo.net" Subject: Sinister: [Fwd: Mail System Error - Returned Mail] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3FD184FB6CF91F4F4C838140" Precedence: bulk Reply-To: David & Katrina X-List: Sinister This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3FD184FB6CF91F4F4C838140 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit this always happens, please fill in your reply-to details in your prefs. and while i'm here, if your using communicator 4, please check that the option under edit>preferences>mail&group>messages is switched to NOT send html by default. apparently this causes some people not to see your message (as was the case with jeepster and recently us). thanks david sorry for the lack of b&s content, but this is a common list problem apparently -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** --------------3FD184FB6CF91F4F4C838140 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <> Received: from smtprelay1-gui.server.virgin.net ([194.168.54.26]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 549-33929U100000L2S50) with ESMTP id AAA14441 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:45:11 +0000 Received: from mushroom.totalweb.net.uk ([194.207.147.201]) by smtprelay1-gui.server.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-0U10L2S100) with ESMTP id AAA12071 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:45:03 +0000 Received: from newmail.virgin.net (newmail.virgin.net [194.168.54.44]) by mushroom.totalweb.net.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id UAA16022 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:44:53 GMT To: bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk From: Mail Administrator Reply-To: Mail Administrator Subject: Mail System Error - Returned Mail Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:44:59 +0000 Message-ID: <19980123204459.AAA14295 at newmail.virgin.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; Boundary="===========================_ _= 2138977(14295)" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT --===========================_ _= 2138977(14295) Content-Type: text/plain This Message was undeliverable due to the following reason: Each of the following recipients was rejected by a remote mail server. The reasons given by the server are included to help you determine why each recipient was rejected. Recipient: <""@dircon.co.uk> Reason: <""@dircon.co.uk>... user address required Please reply to Postmaster at newmail.virgin.net if you feel this message to be in error. --===========================_ _= 2138977(14295) Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from totalweb.co.uk ([194.168.73.15]) by newmail.virgin.net (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 549-33929U100000L2S50) with ESMTP id AAA14264 for <""@dircon.co.uk>; Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:44:56 +0000 Message-ID: <34C90185.45106333 at totalweb.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 20:45:57 +0000 From: David & Katrina Reply-To: bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk Organization: blue soda X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: @dircon.co.uk Subject: Re: Siniestro References: <199801231903.TAA14684 at mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit your computer is fine, it was our configuration that was wrong. microsoft doesn't handle html mail very well and that was what we were sending, so we've stopped doing that. as for the time, well we forwarded them all at the same time, hence the result david -- Yaz wrote: > > Mike Newman wrote: > > > > Yaz wrote: > > > > > Me too!! I also get worryingly empty pages from Jeepster and i think > we > > > use the microsoft programme too, but as a pathetic computer illiterate > > > student person, i'm not sure. > > > > Your messages have probably decoded into mysterious files somewhere on > > your hard drive. > > david wrote: > > no worries, the next time i'm at jeepster i'll re-configure their > software so this doesn't happen. > david > ***************************** > > Dear David > Um, i still haven't figured out what the problem is yet (i, and, i spose > others using microsoft also get distressingly blank pages from Ian Tuton) > - but the good news is that we did get your last two messages, but not the > first two siniestro or matador ones because my moody computer decided to > sulk, again. But the mystery deepens, as it did decide to tell me that > they were all sent at t'same time... > > Weird huh? > Tell me if there's something i should be doing, > > love, > Yasmin xxx -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** --===========================_ _= 2138977(14295)-- --------------3FD184FB6CF91F4F4C838140-- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Tue Jan 27 07:02:50 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 01:02:50 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: it makes perfect sense... Message-ID: that now, when I have more work than I can possibly conceive of, I should dash off a quick posting to the list. 1) I speak Spanish. Hablo español. Alguien en esta lista quien quiera discutir B&S en español, ¡escribame! Me gusta decirme que escribir a los listees españoles es una manera de practicar la lengua...y entonces no me siento tan mala cuando gasto tiempo escribiendo emails en vez de, no sé, leer un ensayo de Simón Bolivar o algo así. 2) B&S made it in the top 10 of my university's radio station's playlist last week! the "3, 6, 9..." EP is still wowing Djs and listeners alike. And I got IYFS on vinyl, and it does sound a little different than the enclave CD version, but I think that's more a result of the different medium... 3) Trembling Blue Stars: I just stumbled upon their latest album, and it's so pleasant...can anyone tell me more about them? 4) my carp! I seem to have lost my treasured carp in the Sinister room! this was the same carp I used to smack Stuart D. when he stumbled in there over the weekend...has anyone seen it? St. Lucy? Pyth? Johnm? Minka? Risso? HoneyPaulieGrrrlChile? I'd hate to have to resort to, say, sea bass. And besides, it was sort of like a relic, you know? 5) anyone who I've arranged to send tapes to...please email me to remind me of exactly what I am to be sending you! I have a list here, and some of them are done, but I have the feeling I'm forgetting something...in any case... okay, must be off to finish art history reading. can anyone offer any insights into symbolism, or the incongruity therein, in Jan van Eyck's Ghent Alterpiece? ta ta siniestros. besos, Amanda ------------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "How do I offend you, when I only mean to put beauty in my mind, and not my mind in the beauty?" --Sor Juana Ines de la Cruz ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Tue Jan 27 07:54:09 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 02:54:09 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: i dream of sinhysteria Message-ID: <50d2301e.34cd92a3@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-27 01:45:30 EST, Runegg at AOL.COM writes: << So I hear Matador is signing BAS--what can we expect from Madonna's label?--a publicity blitz a la Alannis Morisette and Prodigy; BAS on every "new music" station, some idiot screaming that they're the most exciting new band since Sugar Ray.... Will we feel so special once that's happened? >> You're confusing Matador with Maverick. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 09:39:45 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:39:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: create a new and interesting music collection; buy cheap stuff! Message-ID: <01bd2b07$803d2c20$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> i like your attention to detail. fopp in edinburgh have gor ricky ross's solo album next to the till for 99p on CD. i'm not recommending it, but whilst i was in there 2 customers bought it on impulse! 99p; so much less than 1. kate Strange you should say that, over the past year or so, they've had hundreds of these, and I've had this strange fantasy that one day I'd like to go in and buy them all, just to cheer the staff up! Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Tue Jan 27 10:31:59 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:31:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I was dreaming sinister References: <199801261505.PAA08805@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Message-ID: <34CDB79F.E94F53A8@virgin.net> Johnston, John CT wrote: > > OK so i've never had a Belle and Sebastian dream but last night I had a > list dream! Although I don't remember too much about it, it clearly > featured; archaelogy, a wedding and certain prominent list members (none > of whom were being dug up or getting married and all of whom were fully > clothed at all times I hasten to add). I'm not going to do any "naming > and shaming", but I thought I should share with the group. I had been > watching Time Team and Honeymoon in Vegas which explains part of it and > listening to a lot of Belle and Sebastian (particularly Photo Jenny > which I undervoted seriously, David). > > Sinister, I'd call it. i think we all deserve to know exactly what is going on inside this young man's head, don't you? so, name some names please!!! cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 10:29:01 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:29:01 GMT Subject: Sinister: THE AGE GAME. Message-ID: <199801271029.KAA22065@brookes.ac.uk> THE AGE GAME: DON'T CHEAT BY SCROLLING DOWN FIRST!!! It only takes 30 seconds. Work this out as you read. Don't read the bottom until you have worked it out.!!! 1. First of all, pick the number of days a week that you would like to go out. 2. MULTIPLY this number by 2. 3. ADD 5. 4. MULTIPLY it by 50. 5. If you have already had your birthday this year, ADD 1748. If you haven't, ADD 1747. 6. Last step: SUBTRACT the four digit year that you were born (eg 1970). SEE BELOW: # # # # # # # # # # # # # # RESULTS: You should now have a three digit number: The first digit of this was your original number (i.e. how many times you want to go out each week). The second two digits are your age!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From O9716742 at xxx.UK Tue Jan 27 12:20:21 1998 From: O9716742 at xxx.UK (David OReilly) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:20:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: yeah i know, but.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: wowee zowee!! my favorite colour is green, and my favorite food is pasta!! i feel much better all ready. thank you kathleen anderson for your reply, it really made me change the way i think about b&s. fair enough, i suppose thier mysteriousnessness (?) does add to the whole b&s "experience" and make "beautiful" all the more, er, beautiful. but, i must admit that im still pretty miffed at the fact i'll probably never get to ee them live. what about, if they got the most beautiful tourbus in the world, with three rooms per band member and a ginormous dining hall, were they all meet for tea?? they could have loads of spagetti and lasagne, and proper large slices(like in the add) of vieneta icecream. im sorry, i know i should accept there choice not to do the normal mainstraem band stuff, i just think its a real pity that people "miss out". it seems that the are a pretty damn special bunch of people, which may explain the perfection of thier music, so i try really hard to understand. then i think of how watching those people actually make those tunes which i love so much in front of my very eyes would be like. so why cant they share it with us?? CANT THEY JUST SHARE IT WITH US, JUST ONCE?? LET US IN?? david. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hc97st at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 12:28:09 1998 From: hc97st at xxx.uk (Simon Tyers) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:28:09 GMT Subject: Sinister: don't vote, cause troubleSRe: Sinister: don't vote, cause trouble Message-ID: <199801271228.MAA17501@jacobi.cms.dmu.ac.uk> > For those who haven't got 'Moon Safari', take extra dollar with > you and buy 'All Saints' as well, conveniently next to it in > Our Price. The second best walkman tape ever. I'll fight anyone who > doesn't adore the resurrection job they do on 'Under the Bridge'. It's terrible. You want some then? "I'm a happy camper!" Simon Tyers : an affront to public taste hc97st at dmu.ac.uk http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/Palms/6687/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From I.S.Mcburnie at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 12:47:35 1998 From: I.S.Mcburnie at xxx.uk (Mcburnie) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:47:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Dodgy hair Message-ID: Yes!!!!!!!!!! I too have a mullet, and I'm not ashamed to say that at all (well, just a little bit, then). Mullet websites? Where are they? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elzachar at xxx.no Tue Jan 27 12:45:15 1998 From: elzachar at xxx.no (Elisabeth Zachariassen) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:45:15 +0100 (MET) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199801271245.NAA16660@online.no> >Plaird wrote: >Please let us know if there are any places in countries other than the >UK who would play B&S and make a night out very special. Hi! My boyfriend is a DJ at a place called Hulen, in Bergen, Norway and everytime he plays some B&S. People come up to him and ask him what it is (or to ask him play some Kiss..) So if you're ever in norway, it's the place to be.... Pling, Elisabeth Z P.S Are London-listees going to Cornershop 5 March? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com Tue Jan 27 12:08:10 1998 From: Nick_Dastoor/BSHO/GB%BSHO at notesgw.compuserve.com (Nick Dastoor/BSHO/GB) Date: 27 Jan 98 12:08:10 Subject: Sinister: my lover stands on golden sands... Message-ID: <9801271306.AA0406@notesgw.compuserve.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:20:23 -0500 (EST) From: blink at xxx.net Subject: Sinister: my lover stands on golden sands... >This other guy borrowed my discman for class and IYFS was in it and when he >came back he said he hated them,that they sounded like they were background >music at high school b-movies or soemthing..I don't know!..he was babbling >out of control,and he made some rude comments so I smacked him against the >lockers. Way to go Genevieve! This is what we want to see - war! None of this namby-pamby 'we don't want any trouble' nonsense. We shall fight them on the beaches, we shall fight in the locker rooms, we shall fight on the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the back of the classroom; we shall never surrender. What did you do in the great battle of Belle and Sebastian daddy?, our children will ask. And we'll tell them of the time we were trapped alone down a dark alleyway by a marauding gang of Verve fans wielding bicycle chains but managed to waste them all armed only with a small badge. Ah! Glory days. A resurgent nick nick_dastoor.bsho at notes.compuserve.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET Tue Jan 27 13:12:49 1998 From: Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET (Andrew.Dean at xxx.NET) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:12:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: yeah i know, but.... Message-ID: <80256599.00488D79.00@bull.co.uk> Sinister: yeah i know, but.... David OReilly (O9716742 at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK) Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:20:21 +0000 (GMT) >im sorry, i know i should accept their choice not to do the >normal mainstream band stuff, i just think its a real pity >that people "miss out". >it seems that the are a pretty damn special bunch of >people, which may explain the perfection of thier music, so >i try really hard to understand. then i think of how >watching those people actually make those tunes which i >love so much in front of my very eyes would be like. so why >can't they share it with us?? >CANT THEY JUST SHARE IT WITH US, JUST ONCE?? LET US IN?? >david. david, shut up. please. they've just done a bunch of gigs. manchester at christmas, remember? and if you can't be bothered to travel from belfast to manchester when there were people there from exeter and aberdeen and fucking los angeles then whose fault is that? chances are there won't be any more gigs for a while because isobel's got her finals (this according to chris in manchester station on the 29th december) and you wouldn't want her to miss out on an education would you? so sit tight, be patient and shut up. and be prepared to make an effort next time they play... andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.Al-Bader at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 13:07:30 1998 From: S.Al-Bader at xxx.uk (Al-Bader,S) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:07:30 -0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <2F37A3FB897BD111BDE100062905C3EE2C59C5@EXCHS1> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faw1 at xxx.edu Tue Jan 27 14:18:50 1998 From: faw1 at xxx.edu (Francisco Alberto Wong) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:18:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk for sale? In-Reply-To: <9a91ac41.34cd145a@aol.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 26 Jan 1998 Essexdog5 at aol.com wrote: > A friend of mine who works in a second hand record shop called me this morning > to let me know that a vinyl copy of Tigermilk had come in. I'm not prepared to > shell out the seventy quid required (particularly as I have no record player), > but if anyone has a desperate urge to own, cherish, stroke and otherwise > fondle said rare objet, the shop is called Shakedown Records in Camden, Norf > Lahndan (24 Inverness Street). I just can't believe how cheap it is. And what I can't believe is that no one has torn asunder everything in his/her path to obtain this--and you call yourselves fans! 70 quid!! 70 quid!! hahahahaha. I would kill to buy this; why I would maliciously malign world leaders! Has anyone bought it yet? I'm sure its gone by now. francisco ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cno3 at xxx.edu Tue Jan 27 13:51:44 1998 From: cno3 at xxx.edu (Christopher ~N~ Oram) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:51:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Gloaming Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980127085144.006d3858@postoffice3.mail.cornell.edu> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 4229 bytes Desc: not available URL: From jrbia at xxx.br Tue Jan 27 14:42:57 1998 From: jrbia at xxx.br (Junior/Fabiana) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:42:57 -0200 Subject: Sinister: sinister: i dream of sinhysteria Message-ID: <199801271445.OAA02128@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> > So I hear Matador is signing BAS--what can we expect from Madonna's >label?--a publicity blitz a la Alannis Morisette and Prodigy; BAS on every >"new music" station, some idiot screaming that they're the most exciting >new band since Sugar Ray.... Will we feel so special once that's >happened? Madonna's label is called MAVERICK. Matador - thanks God! - has got NOTHING to do with this woman. Matador is famous for beign the label of Pavement, one of the most copied american bands ever... :o) Fabiana ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From GGY3SWM4 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 14:53:59 1998 From: GGY3SWM4 at xxx.uk (Me) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 14:53:59 Subject: Sinister: no B&S, just TBS.... Message-ID: <497C6527DC0@novell2.bham.ac.uk> Amanda Bergman wrote: > > 3) Trembling Blue Stars: I just stumbled upon their latest album, and it's > so pleasant Yeah, isn't it? >...can anyone tell me more about them? TBS are essentially the-bloke-that-used-to-be-in-the-Field-Mice-and- Northern-Picture-Library (but whose name I forget) on dear departed Sarah Records. First album was Her Handwriting, which is indeed lovely, second is just about to appear following the recent single 'The Rainbow'. Go see the Shinkansen web-site for more info. And whilst I'm here, you should all really own at the very least the Sarah compilation 'There and Back Again Lane' cos its v.v. fab and in fact constantly puts me in mind of a certain B&S.... Nick. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From autretx at xxx.fr Wed Jan 28 01:14:20 1998 From: autretx at xxx.fr (autretx) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:14:20 -0800 Subject: Sinister: A french fan of belle and sebastian Message-ID: <34CE866C.2CB5@iu-vannes.fr> Well first I apologize for my poor english... * On spring in France B&S 'll come sing On a french radio with public. I like very much B&S but what does it make in LIVE ?? Have you ever heard of Dominique A ? he's a french indiepop musician and it's wanderfull! And what about the weather In england ?? here in Vannes (brittany) It's very cold. if you want reply to me, use autrex at iu-vannes.fr because I'm not on the list see you later . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 16:21:19 1998 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:21:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: tiger fur bikini Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980127162119.23e7aae2@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> Any fanzines (old, new) with B&S? Sell copies? I suppose they will tour once they've finished the ep or whatever. Everyone wants Lapanese girls screaming at them once in their lives, right? ( if you travel to see them, do they pay for the fare?) Yours a toute vitesse, Kelly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 16:39:03 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 98 16:39:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Beggin' You Message-ID: <199801271637.QAA04821@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Please, oh please could somebody do me a tape of Tigermilk and demos as my already crippled copy has finally died a tape death (ribbon-y innards spewing forth). I've been furtively asking around for another for some time, but to no avail. I could do a tape swop, and have all sorts of stuff I could tape in return. the Lairdster "Go to work on an Egg" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ah6991 at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 16:47:27 1998 From: ah6991 at xxx.uk (adam the fool) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:47:27 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Club nights? In-Reply-To: <199801270006.AAA23333@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Does anyone know of any decent indie nights in bristol (It's all scary 'bristol scene' people around here, don't get me wrong i like the music, but the people are all far too tall) all that i've found is Kandi Klub which is alright but hasn't played b&s or Helen Love that i've noticed... And i think we should have a heated debate about little smileys rather than the edinburgh clubs (bit far away you see...) ;o) (I like mine to have a lopsided nose.) Oh yeah - valentines day soon - anyone else think this is the worst day of the year? What else? Well why don't we pick a day sometime next month and then all phone Radio One's Most Wanted (freephone i think) and force Dave Pearce to play Expectations (or whatever) that would be cool. Love Adam. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.nicoll at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 16:51:49 1998 From: david.nicoll at xxx.uk (david.nicoll at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:51:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk for sale? Message-ID: Francisco wrote:- I just can't believe how cheap it is. And what I can't believe is that no one has torn asunder everything in his/her path to obtain this--and you call yourselves fans! 70 quid!! 70 quid!! hahahahaha. I would kill to buy this; why I would maliciously malign world leaders! Has anyone bought it yet? I'm sure its gone by now. francisco You think there wasn't a hundred clamouring fans on the phone straight away?! By the time I got through the staff in the shop were fed up with people asking and informed me that it was long gone. Anyone willing to confess how much they paid for it? David. *********************************************** David Nicoll, Project Manager, Infrastructure Ivory & Sime plc Tel: 0131 260 2045 One Charlotte Square Fax: 0131 243 1301 Edinburgh EH2 4DZ *********************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Wed Jan 28 05:38:46 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:38:46 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Gloaming Message-ID: >Yet another shout of praise for B & S, this time from Mark Eitzel in >the pages of Time Out New York (reviewing selected songs) :- >TONY: 'Beautiful' by B & S > >"They're my favourite band right now. He's a great songwriter. I love >his music. It's a beautiful song. I've listened to IYFS a million times" Yeah....Standing talking to Stuart M. at the Sunday NYC show last year, Mark Eitzel crept up and inbetween us and grabbed Stuart's hand saying something like "Lemme shake yer hand man...you're just a genius man...it was fucking brilliant." then he cowered off into the night. Odd, but brilliant little man that Eitzel. I said "oh wow! That was Mark Eitzel from American Music Club" and Stuart was like "yeah?" and i'm saying...."I SWEAR! It was!" I don't think he believed me tho...just thought it was some akward pop kid. Ah well. shared soppy Belle & Sebastian moments...... beth p.s. I saw a guy who looked EXACTALLY like Stuart this morning on my way to work....he was driving down Burbank Blvd in a big, black, 4x4...with a confederate flag on the back.....that kind of ruined the fantasy...especially when he spit out the window. Ah well...*sigh* Message to you Rudy --- no email yet? I sent them all this am...about 7:15 am, standard California thyme. Ah well. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bohobird1 at xxx.com Tue Jan 27 17:51:33 1998 From: bohobird1 at xxx.com (DALE COOPER) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:51:33 PST Subject: Sinister: b&s comp????? Message-ID: <19980127175134.10183.qmail@hotmail.com> hihi got a post from the list about the b&s metal comp. yesterday can this be true???? well david and katrina - what's the word from the homefront?? personaly i don't think that ozzy will do it justice - however it would still be a laugh!! a bit puzzled boho :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 17:53:35 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:53:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: DISCO-A-GO-GO Message-ID: the subject line has no relation to anything but I think it would be mildy amusing to point out that my goth friend who loves Marylin Manson and Korn loooves Bis too! heehee, now *thats* only funny if you're bored..... Bis cross the industrial goth market... :o) I think it was a Kate who wrote that B&S were doing this.... <> um, no actually that was kind of *me* today except that we (not B&S me and mes amis) were sat around the piano in our colegios main hall thingy whatjemcallit. I heartily recommend to all you lovely listees the orange fudge, but as for the Turkish Delights and those <> things, AVOID LIKE THE PLAGUE! Mon dieu they are absloutely degoutant. Anyway, I have a question thing to ask. Its seems to me that most people on this list are either 'indiepoppers' with an immense knowledge of Field Mice and love loads of other bands in the B&S genre, or (like moi) are rockypoppy rockers who like Manics and Suede and B&S have struck a very jangly chord with, but are very different to your usual tunes.....very sweeping statement there but amongst the majority of personnes sur cet liste it has seemed to bear out...... :o) So, can anyone confirm or deny this stereotype? Oh go on I've ben doing stereotypes in media studies and think this would be a nice thing to have a heated debate upon. (Other than a nice afghan sofa) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah The equal opportunities fight continues...... "You cant give a grenade to a homosexual HIS WRIST WOULD BE FAAAAR TOO LIMP! And as for fighting in the War, you'd want to POWDER YOUR NOSE WOULDN'T YOU YOU F**KING POOF!" --General Rosybourne in Current Occasions ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Tue Jan 27 18:29:49 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:29:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: stuff and nonsense. again References: Message-ID: <34CE279D.834F0A87@lineone.net> adam the fool wrote: > Does anyone know of any decent indie nights in bristol no. but we know of a darn fine club in exeter of a sunday night, except no-one came this weekend except Adrian, and i felt stupid cos it was ten times emptier than usual and made me look like a right sad git. okay, sadder than usual... we're going to run the entire Twin Peaks series on about five TV's with hopefully the soundtrack mixed in with lots of interesting stuff. Hmmm. Will this get us punters? i wonder if any of B&S are David Lynch fans? i wonder what their fave movies are... don't tell me; hal hartley features. i know, i know... > And i think we should have a heated debate about little smileys rather > > than the edinburgh clubs (bit far away you see...) ;o) > (I like mine to have a lopsided nose.) i'm a traditionalist :-) in this, at least... cos i canne be bothered thinking about new variations. more to do with my time y'see. > Oh yeah - valentines day soon - anyone else think this is the worst > day > of the year? only if you accept it's existence. it's easy to deny it you know... if harder to actually ignore it. > What else? Well why don't we pick a day sometime next month and then > all > phone Radio One's Most Wanted (freephone i think) and force Dave > Pearce > to play Expectations (or whatever) that would be cool. because he'd probably have to mail this list and ask if someone could make him a tape copy of Tigermilk. playing the Microdisney peel sessions LP and thinking, um, this is bloody marvelous, why don't you play it more often? I bet Stuart Murdoch liked Microdisney. oh yeah, and Andy: nice one about shows and getting to them :-) keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From wac at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 20:34:03 1998 From: wac at xxx.uk (WesleySniper) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:34:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister:JUdy? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all! Just thought i'd take the opportunity to offer my thoughts on the song Judy and the dream of horses: Personally, i think it is a story about Judy, who was a genuine rebel. She was a nymph, and she asked the writer for sex....he bottled out and asked her to think about the dream she once told him - about having sex with horses. Why he suggested this to her is because the horse would be the only thing to satisfy her - as she was a teenage rebel. Spaced out? You betcha. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 21:51:08 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:51:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Reel around the fountain? Message-ID: <199801272038.UAA06057@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> http://moz.pair.com/information/stephane/covers.htm go to this link - scroll down to REEL AROUND THE FOUNTAIN it says that Belle and Sebastian have done a slower version of this song!!! Is this new news? Northy (it is a Smiths page & song btw.) ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Runegg at xxx.com Tue Jan 27 20:39:19 1998 From: Runegg at xxx.com (Runegg) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:39:19 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister--whoops Message-ID: Hi, and whoops. So I confused Matador and Maverick!--those who corrected me nicely, thanks. Those made angry by the mistake... take a deep breath. Here's some more three-syllable words I could've confused with Matador: Maskingtape Masonic Marketplace Masturbate Marabou (it's a kind of stork) Maritime Marinate Masquerade Anyway, I'm glad BAS is going to be on Matador, and not Maverick. bye for now --Ari ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bullis at xxx.net Tue Jan 27 23:56:40 1998 From: bullis at xxx.net (todd) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 15:56:40 -0800 Subject: Sinister: B&S on Matador Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980127155640.007999f0@pop.avana.net> the problem with getting the list in digest form is that everyone has already responded to the threads that catch your eye, so by the time to chime in with your American indie-rock knowledge, its already exhausted. but I'm still chiming in anyway. Matador will be a good home in America for B&S. As already noted, it is the home to Pavement. In addition to that they also are home to Guided by Voices, Liz Phair, Chavez, Cat Power, etc. I believe they have a good distribution deal with Elektra or Atlantic (sorry to bring the biz into this, but we want B&S to have the widest distribution possible, right?) The artists get autonomy on Matador, so no one will be butting in saying "ummm...could you make this a little more like third eye blind?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Tue Jan 27 21:05:53 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 21:05:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Reel around the fountain? References: <199801272038.UAA06057@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34CE4C31.93DCE17F@lineone.net> northy wrote: > http://moz.pair.com/information/stephane/covers.htm > > go to this link - scroll down to REEL AROUND THE FOUNTAIN > > it says that Belle and Sebastian have done a slower version of this > song!!! > > Is this new news? um nope. respect. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Marylka at xxx.com Tue Jan 27 21:31:23 1998 From: Marylka at xxx.com (Marylka) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:31:23 EST Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: Hiya everyone.....just thought I'd better introduce myself and all that. My name is Marylka (or call me Milka, why not, everyone else does) and I've been suspiciously hanging around the list for a few weeks now, but I thought now was the time to be open and declare my love for the most stunningly fabulous group ever to walk the earth. So I like Belle and Sebastian then. I was wondering if anyone saw the ad in the back of this week's NME for some random record shop....hang on, I'll check the name....Opal Records, and anyway they had in their possession a sacred and holy ...you guessed it...Tigermilk, and it said ring up to enquire. So of course I did, but *sniff* they'd already sold it for £160!!!! I think this breaks all records. BUt worth every penny, of course :-) Have fun lotsa love, Milka ========================================================== "Get me away from here, I'm dying Play me a song to set me free" ========================================================== ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leslie.chinea at xxx.com Tue Jan 27 16:43:00 1998 From: leslie.chinea at xxx.com (leslie chinea) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 16:43:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S on Matador Message-ID: <000151F0.4556@emimusic.com> Subject: Sinister: B&S on Matador Author: todd Wrote: >Matador will be a good home in America for B&S. As already noted, it >is the home to Pavement. In addition to that they also are home to >Guided by Voices, Liz Phair, Chavez, Cat Power, etc. I believe they >have a good distribution deal with Elektra or Atlantic (sorry to >bring the biz into this, but we want B&S to have the widest >distribution possible, right?) Matator/Capitol is distributed by EMI Music Distribution...and I can say we (especially me) have been on the Belle & Sebastian tip since Sinister was released in the U.S. back in April. I anxiously awaited B&S's decision on their U.S. label and was ecstatic that they chose Matador which is a perfect fit. BTW I've gotten a surplus of double-sided Sinister posters if anyone wants them email me (sorry, but if you're outside the U.S. there is a dilemma regarding postage.) Keepin' it real, Leslie. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Sinister: B&S on Matador Author: todd at X-MAIL Date: 1/27/98 3:56 PM the problem with getting the list in digest form is that everyone has already responded to the threads that catch your eye, so by the time to chime in with your American indie-rock knowledge, its already exhausted. but I'm still chiming in anyway. Matador will be a good home in America for B&S. As already noted, it is the home to Pavement. In addition to that they also are home to Guided by Voices, Liz Phair, Chavez, Cat Power, etc. I believe they have a good distribution deal with Elektra or Atlantic (sorry to bring the biz into this, but we want B&S to have the widest distribution possible, right?) The artists get autonomy on Matador, so no one will be butting in saying "ummm...could you make this a little more like third eye blind?" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hanspi at xxx.net Tue Jan 27 23:00:16 1998 From: hanspi at xxx.net (Hans Peter) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:00:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Pavement + Belle Message-ID: <34CE66FC.4E51@lancnews.infi.net> Salut! For the record, Matador's parent company is the behemoth Capitol Records and to find out about the arrangement between the two, check out Matador's site http://www.matadorrec.com/, which includes a long winded explanation for all those concerned. Speaking of Matador, I think it would be sublime to see Pavement and Belle and Sebastian tour together. Let's put the pressure on. HP *Any French listees who want to help this here English speaking lad learn some french, please drop me a line. Merci. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Tue Jan 27 23:35:55 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 18:35:55 EST Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk for sale? Message-ID: <9a944c67.34ce6f60@aol.com> In a message dated 1/27/98 5:07:05PM, you write: << sinister at majordomo.net >> You think there wasn't a hundred clamouring fans on the phone straight away?! By the time I got through the staff in the shop were fed up with people asking and informed me that it was long gone. Anyone willing to confess how much they paid for it? Well, hey, thanks for all the non-existent mails thanking for me for the, er, 'tip'. Jeeeeezus. Indie tossers are no less polite than anyone else really, are they? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Wed Jan 28 01:02:02 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:02:02 EST Subject: Sinister: Mice and Jan Message-ID: <3435ea8.34ce838b@aol.com> I will admit it--I found someone to tape me the entire Field Mice discography since I was too young and foolish to buy the records when they were actually in print. The cassettes are right now residing in an honoured position near the stereo--oh, right next to my tape of _Tigermilk_. Imagine that! And I can not think of any other band, indiepop or otherwise, that sounds much like Belle and Sebastian. Oh, maybe a snippet here and there, but Belle and Sebastian are much more singular in general. Living and loving Matthew ps. Amanda--email me: I know quite a bit about the Ghent alterpiece. (That sounds like some dodgy pick-up line. Actually, it almost sounds rather appropriate on this list. Kiddies, now you know how to snag Stuart M.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jrbia at xxx.br Wed Jan 28 01:24:30 1998 From: jrbia at xxx.br (Junior/Fabiana) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 23:24:30 -0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S on Matador Message-ID: <199801280128.BAA13510@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > Matador will be a good home in America for B&S. As already noted, it is > the home to Pavement. In addition to that they also are home to Guided > by Voices, Liz Phair, Chavez, Cat Power, etc. And let's not forget the pretty, pretty, pretty Yo La Tengo! Hmmm...and Pizzicato Five and Superchunck. I like them too! :o) Fabiana ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Wed Jan 28 10:03:08 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:03:08 -0800 Subject: Sinister: huh? Message-ID: <34CF025C.3F5E@earthlink.net> so no one liked my metal joke huh? -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 08:55:34 1998 From: R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk (Richard Anderson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 08:55:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: DISCO-A-GO-GONE References: Message-ID: <34CEF286.41E4@smtphost.dur.ac.uk> Sarah wrote: > > the subject line has no relation to anything but I think it would be > mildy amusing to point out that my goth friend who loves Marylin Manson > and Korn loooves Bis too! heehee, now *thats* only funny if you're > bored..... Bis cross the industrial goth market... :o) > > Its seems to me that most people on this list are either 'indiepoppers' > with an immense knowledge of Field Mice and love loads of other bands in > the B&S genre, or (like moi) are rockypoppy rockers who like Manics and > Suede Sorry to shatter your illusions! I like Marylin Manson, Bis and Belle & Sebastian. I also like cornershop The Divine Comedy and Urusei Yatsura (hello tiger:-), On a slightly different note I am starting a alternative Rock show on my uni's student radio, Purple FM. You can only pick it up near Durham UK. I woundered which tracks people would suggest to get metal heads hooked on good old B&S. I thought Pastiche De La Bourgouise. Any sugestions? Richard Anderson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mkorchia at xxx.fr Wed Jan 28 09:14:43 1998 From: mkorchia at xxx.fr (Michael Korchia) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:14:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mumbly Cd out on Marsh Marigold References: <199801261555.QAA06434@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <34CEF703.7910@club-internet.fr> Perfection As A Hipster wrote: > > Michael Korchia wrote ... > > >Well, this is an ad, which I think is not irrelevant on this list! > > Well, this is blatant self-promotion, isn't it ? §;^D Of course. But as long as the band is good :) > >The 1st Mumbly album 'Being Ernest' is out on Marsh Marigold. > >We're a French indiepop band, but most songs are in English (10 in > >english, 4 in french, including a Serge Gainsbourg cover). There's a mix > >of male & female vocals. > > Nice album, outstanding tracks are "Demain", "Les reflets", "The empty room" > and "Shame has spread its wings on me" ... I should add that Pascale (my wife and singer in watoo watoo, whose mini album is out) sings on 'demain'. > an appropriate record to fill in the time of desperation until the release of the new B&S album, > now that people already start falling for stuff like Air ... I fully agree. > >The sound and the music probably draw comparisons to Felt, the Feelies, > >the Field Mice. > > ... and Fantastic Something, but I've been told from reliable sources that > they have not even heard of this band. §;^D I fully agree. > >You can order it from me: 15 dollars, 8 pounds, 23 DM, 80 FF, etc.... > >postage included. Or 20 dollars, 11 pounds, 30 DM, 110FF if you order it along with Watoo > >Watoo Cdep 'un Peu de Moi' (my other band). > Wow ... that's a "steal" ... how much is the Watoo Watoo CDs on its own ? Well, it is 7 dollars, 10 dm, 40f, 4 pounds. but for you, andreas, there may be a discount price... > Only wondering whether they'll be given the opportunity to support B&S in > the future ... the bass player, a disguised stand-up-comedian, is worth your > money alone. People will have to see to make their own opinion. that's it! -- Michael Korchia mkorchia at club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/05/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/00/aurore/emumbly.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 09:29:19 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 09:29:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Disco Inferno Message-ID: <01bd2bcf$35a1e930$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Its seems to me that most people on this list are either 'indiepoppers' >with an immense knowledge of Field Mice and love loads of other bands in >the B&S genre, or (like moi) are rockypoppy rockers who like Manics and >Suede and B&S have struck a very jangly chord with, but are very >different to your usual tunes.....very sweeping statement there but >amongst the majority of personnes sur cet liste it has seemed to bear >out...... :o) Deny this completely I'm afraid, I do like Suede mind you. And I'm speaking for a lot of people on the list too. Currently on my desk at work : DJ Shadow, Pre-emptive strike. Pete Townshend Who Came First, Marvin Gaye, What's Going On, Neil Young Everybody knows this is nowhere and 3 feet high and rising by De La Soul. Never understood the manics, can't understand how such a pants band who essentially sound like Foreigner with pretentious 6th form lyrics made it so big. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gwood at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 10:36:17 1998 From: gwood at xxx.uk (Gerard Wood) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:36:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: DISCO-A-GO-GO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 5:53 pm +0000 27/1/98, Sarah wrote: >Its seems to me that most people on this list are either 'indiepoppers' >with an immense knowledge of Field Mice and love loads of other bands in >the B&S genre, or (like moi) are rockypoppy rockers who like Manics and >Suede and B&S have struck a very jangly chord with, but are very >different to your usual tunes.....very sweeping statement there but >amongst the majority of personnes sur cet liste it has seemed to bear >out...... :o) I think this may be true, to a certain extent. Everyone's going to come out with "oooh, no, i'm much more eclectic, look at these records I've got..." etc etc, but the way this list reads sometimes, i think there probably are (at least) two differing sources of B&S fan. Wotta lotta tosh, I hear you all cry. Personally, I have an thorough grounding in the Field Mice an all things Sarah, have liked the Pastels from an early age, and wouldn't even have the Manics or Suede in the house. Oh, and I'm a rabid Fall fan, and run the Half Man Half Biscuit website...where do they fit in? Erk, I'll go now. waltzer Gez. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From l.m.hosie at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 11:06:12 1998 From: l.m.hosie at xxx.uk (Lorraine Hosie) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:06:12 GMT Subject: Sinister: DISCO-A-GO-GO In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6729FB86C1B@SERVER.SCOT.AC.UK> > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 17:53:35 +0000 > To: sinister at majordomo.net > From: Sarah > Subject: Sinister: DISCO-A-GO-GO > Reply-to: Sarah > > > Its seems to me that most people on this list are either 'indiepoppers' > with an immense knowledge of Field Mice and love loads of other bands in > the B&S genre, or (like moi) are rockypoppy rockers who like Manics and > Suede and B&S have struck a very jangly chord with, but are very > different to your usual tunes.....very sweeping statement there but > amongst the majority of personnes sur cet liste it has seemed to bear > out...... :o) > > So, can anyone confirm or deny this stereotype? Oh go on I've ben doing > stereotypes in media studies and think this would be a nice thing to > have a heated debate upon. (Other than a nice afghan sofa) > >Lorraine here............. In addition to the above comment i was wondering if anymore of you out there are dedicated followers of dance music? If you are then fear no longer you are not alone in your wierd and wonderful, diverse tastes....................................Lx > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From l.m.hosie at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 11:09:56 1998 From: l.m.hosie at xxx.uk (Lorraine Hosie) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 11:09:56 GMT Subject: Sinister:JUdy? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <672AFE4689A@SERVER.SCOT.AC.UK> > Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:34:03 +0000 (GMT) > From: WesleySniper > To: Sarah > Cc: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Re: Sinister:JUdy? > Reply-to: WesleySniper > > Hi all! Just thought i'd take the opportunity to offer my > thoughts on the song Judy and the dream of horses: > > Personally, i think it is a story about Judy, who was a genuine > rebel. She was a nymph, and she asked the writer for sex....he bottled > out and asked her to think about the dream she once told him - about > having sex with horses. > > Why he suggested this to her is because the horse would be the > only thing to satisfy her - as she was a teenage rebel. > > Spaced out? You betcha. I have a maverick idea about what this song might be about - it sounds crazy i know but maybe it could be about a girl called judy who has a dream about horses and writes a song about it................................................................... .............................................? Lorraine x --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 10:07:15 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:07:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: More extreme indieness Message-ID: <01bd2bd4$827fb2f0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I should add that Pascale (my wife and singer in watoo watoo, whose mini >album is out) sings on 'demain'. Watoo Watoo was the little japanese cartoon about a bird wasn't it? That was my nickname at primary school for about a month. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 12:28:03 1998 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATHLEEN MARY ANDERSON) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:28:03 GMT Subject: Sinister: no b&sc MARK.E.SMITH-A-GO-GO In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > >Its seems to me that most people on this list are either 'indiepoppers' > >with an immense knowledge of Field Mice and love loads of other bands in > >the B&S genre, or (like moi) are rockypoppy rockers who like Manics and > >Suede and B&S have struck a very jangly chord with, but are very > >different to your usual tunes.....very sweeping statement there but > >amongst the majority of personnes sur cet liste it has seemed to bear > >out...... :o) > > I think this may be true, to a certain extent. Everyone's going to come > out with "oooh, no, i'm much more eclectic, look at these records I've > got..." me? gloria estefan and the fall. > Oh, and I'm a rabid Fall fan, and run the Half Man Half Biscuit > website...where do they fit in? > were you ever on fallnet ? your name looks vaguely familiar... a top chat forum that alas i have been unable to subscribe to this term, for some curious reason . i quickly learnt to filter through those messages on a basis of who had written them, not what they were about; sorry, this is rather saaaaad 'nd irrelevant... but i have been dying to somehow mention the fall in all the time i've been on this mailing list... i have done now! > Erk, I'll go now. ook, me too. kate. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From grthom at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 13:43:30 1998 From: grthom at xxx.uk (G R Thomas) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 13:43:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: AGE GAME and other games... Message-ID: Hi all, Just a quick note on a couple of matters. Firstly, has anyone else tried Ben F's Age game. HOW COOL IS THAT?? Way cool, I reckon. How the hell does any one do any thing like that? Not only was it a good laugh, but it also restored my faith in my abilities of mental arithmetic. Cheers Ben. If you haven't tried it yet, seek it out and maybe give it ago... Also, the discussion on where us B+S fans come from musically. Now,a good point was made that this can all lead to "I'm more eclectic than you are" pointscoring, but it must be said that some people come from outside either the 'indiepop' (i.e. Pastels (is it?)) or Manics/Suede rockypoppers rockers scene (like moi). As some of you may know (or not, I can't remember) I've been into B+S and other similar (to me) bands for a while, but my musical background is completely different. (Hip-Hop/Jungle/Happy Hardcore). I really like both Suede and the Manics, and I'm getting more into the 'indiepop' (more similar to B+S) scene every day. Make of this what you will, but I'm a case in point that not everyone fits into these stereotypes, and maybe no-one does completly. I'm not sure. Lorraine, I'm into dance music (see above) Sorry about the life story, Loads of love, GIDEONxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 14:31:40 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:31:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Shah Shah a Go Go Message-ID: <01bd2bf9$72ab6c50$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> This bit about eclecticism etc, B+S fans only being into this and that and stuff. More of a point was the fact that probably the only people I've ever met who are only into one specific type of music invariably aren't into it for the music at all... Make of this what you will, but in my experience it certainly seems to be the case. Virtually everyone I know and have ever known have loved loads of different types of music, and thank christ it's not been in some daft attempt to prove themselves better than others (more knowledge, more rare records etc). Me and my friends also have always got each other into new things, and it's always worked, cause I trust them and they trust me (except when Stefan tried to get me into the Swans), which is really what I'd say it's all about. The general point being that I don't believe these "camps" really exist (Suede/Manics, Indiepoppers), it may well be what people talk about cause they think it's going to be of interest to others perhaps. If anyone wants to disprove this please let me know if you belong exclusively to one of these camps. Phew... Bad day at work... nothing's working today. Keith Watson Bsc (hons) (that's Belle and Sebastian content naturally) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nrbqlover at xxx.com Wed Jan 28 15:55:42 1998 From: Nrbqlover at xxx.com (Nrbqlover) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 10:55:42 EST Subject: Sinister: AGE GAME and other games.../HELP! Message-ID: <7077516b.34cf5500@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-28 09:05:08 EST, Lorraine sez: << Also, the discussion on where us B+S fans come from musically. Now,a good point was made that this can all lead to "I'm more eclectic than you are" pointscoring, but it must be said that some people come from outside either the 'indiepop' (i.e. Pastels (is it?)) or Manics/Suede rockypoppers rockers scene (like moi). >> Most of my "indiepop" friends like B&S but there are plenty of others who love the music as well. case in point: my brother-in-law is a thirty-something investment banker in new york. his musical taste goes from bruce springsteen to ella fitzgerald. not exactly a place to start but when he heard "tigermilk" playing at our house he flipped. he has bought all their subsequent releases. case two: my wife is a Hank Williams, Patsy Cline fan. She hates my "indiepop" side but LOVES Belle & Sebastian. this music has SERIOUS crossover potential and being signed to a major indie here in the states can only help. on a different matter: i have been trying without success to get two singles by the band Comfort. I remember one of you lovely listees mentioning their newest single. could you please e-mail me off-list to discuss a trade? cheers, clem lane nrbqlover at aol.com n.p. guided by voices-live in amsterdam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Paul.Dean at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 16:26:32 1998 From: Paul.Dean at xxx.uk (Paul Dean) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 16:26:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian spotted at 37,000 feet!! Message-ID: <01BD2C09.7F8F0890@pine.druid.co.uk> Oh yes, tis true whilst flying back from the U.S on Virgin this monday I flicked through the entertainment guide to see what was on offer : The Game (average), Modern Times : DJ (hilarious - sorry if I'm behind the times on this one but American TV tends not to specialise in such quality viewing) , I looked at what the 'radio' channels had to offer & saw that Steve Lamacq was hosting a look at what's new in 'Indie', including a mention of our favorite Scottish N'err do wells. So true enough, having listened to various dross including Propellerheads (sorry dance-inclined listies) Modern Rock Song came on - it was quite different to the sessions - it sounds more produced (states the obvious) - the trumpets go on for longer - I think? & Stuart sings 'writing songs' instead on 'riding buses' - which i have heard is what he sings live - & which I don't like as much. True to form Mr Lamacq spoke over the ending saying they were going to be massive in 98 - Ohh he is SO on the ball - so I'm not sure if it's the same as the sessions (..the song has got to stop somewhere), but i hope so. Sorry, that's a bobbins review but it was about 3 in the morning & I was trying too hard to remember all the differences So a few questions 1/ Are there other promos of this floating around? 2/ Is Jeepster somehow affiliated with Virgin, & is that why they got the scoop...? 3/ How come the annoying DJ gets to hear the song before the people that matter...? 4/ is paying £250 to fly the most anyone has paid just to hear a song? probably not, if Tigerinflation continues 5/ Is this all old news & should I shut up? I thank you for your attention Paul P.S I bought the Air (obligatory mention) album yesterday & it's watered down St Etienne b-sides ( sorry........) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Wed Jan 28 17:36:51 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:36:51 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Shah Shah a Go Go Message-ID: <199801281736.SAA18414@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Keith Watson wrote ... >This bit about eclecticism etc, B+S fans only being into this and that and >stuff. More of a point was the fact that probably the only people I've ever >met who are only into one specific type of music invariably aren't into it >for the music at all... Ehrm ... I suppose I'm a victim of generalization here, but definitely not the only one. > The general point being that I don't believe these "camps" really exist >(Suede/Manics, Indiepoppers), it may well be what people talk about cause >they think it's going to be of interest to others perhaps. If anyone wants >to disprove this please let me know if you belong exclusively to one of >these camps. I've never considered myself as belonging to a certain "camp" anyway, but yes ... apart from some Jazz, my musical preferences are "confined" by ranging from Sixties Beat/Garage/Psychedelia to contemporary P!O!P! nuggets ... from the Marine Girls to the Dog Faced Hermans ... from Sophia to Dinosaur Jr ... from Sarah Records to Blast First Records ... and I'm perfectly happy with my situation. "Keep your mind open" (Kaleidoscope [US]) Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Wed Jan 28 17:25:37 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:25:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: manics, not much b&s. References: <01bd2bcf$35a1e930$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34CF6A11.8BAD22D3@lineone.net> > Never understood the manics, can't understand how such a pants band > who > essentially sound like Foreigner with pretentious 6th form lyrics made > it so > big. no-one more surprised than me when i saw them on the covers of real music papers back in the day... no-one more pleased for them too maybe, though i dunno. looking back tho it is something which although surprises me i can understand; there was a real sense of obsessiveness about them, especially richey, and that feeling connected with a lot of people. I didn't rate their music ever, and never read enough of the lyrics to comment, but i was genuinely excited by what Richey said, and about the sorts of obsessions we shared, like Rimbaud and Plath. It's those things that made them and him special... which shows that to lots of people it's not just about music. And if you were a 6th former into poetry i think you'd probably relate to what they wrote and sang about... can't comment too much because it's a long time since i was a 6th former writing poetry... and i know it's maybe sad, but i bought the NME today because of the richey thing, and i still get tearful when i think about the whole deal, but hey... there's things that so many people in the media just don't seem to get, so what the hell. and the B&s connection? well i think that to a lot of people Stuart's lyrics will seem like wet 6th form whimsy, and they will fail to understand just what it is we are all getting so obsessively devotional about. They will continue to prefer their radiohead and Manics records, and of course that is their choice, and although it is the wrong choice, it's the way of Pop. Long may it continue. keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 18:17:50 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:17:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I need a shady lane Message-ID: Halloo people. I'm just sending a message before I piss off homel. I've got a crit on my current project tomorrow, in which my tutors are going to hammer my glorious artwork. Bastards! However, I am going to Paris next week. Yipee! Woohoo! Assorted expressions of joy and exaltation. So now I have to remember some French in order not to look like a complete pranny when ordering chips. We do have a native guide in the lovely shape of my friend Isabelle, who's on my Foundation course, so it shouldn't be too crippling trying to get stuff done. French touristy-type shop attendants always have such an attitude though: y'know when you're trying to remember how to say "un timbre pour Angleterre" and they reply in really impatient-sounding snotty English, leaving you with no semblance of dignity. Ah well. Hurrah! I went to see Travis last Friday at the Astoria. It was part of the NME Br*t Shows, but let's not dwell on such unpleasantnesses. Good grief, but the Hybirds are shite. Ultrasound were really cool, despite lovely choruses of "You fat bastard" from Cro-Magnon Man in all his glory, and Travis were absolootly gorgeous. I love Franny! Also: Wierd Occurrences: An Occasional Item: So, you get on a train, get to Charing Cross to meet your friend from Royal Holloway Uni, you get the tube to Tottenham Court Road, you go into the Astoria, and you listen to some bands. You do not expect several members of a band from where you live to be standing behind you throughout. They're The Wogans, a really good local band from Medway, I've been to loads of their gigs (it's such a cack word, that) here, and I was a mite disconcerted, to say le moins. Hey! Genevieve! You're making more sense than normal! If you carry on like this no-one will think you're as cute any longer. Get back to loopiness right away is my recommendation. ByeBye au revoir, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ******************************* On a bus Outside this window A gull is caught in the sky: Patiently waiting. ****************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Wed Jan 28 17:56:04 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (aadam at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:56:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian spotted at 37,000 feet!! References: <01BD2C09.7F8F0890@pine.druid.co.uk> Message-ID: <34CF7120.54A1@interaccess.com> OR "why you should bring a tape recorder and the proper cables with you on every flight" Paul Dean wrote: > > Oh yes, tis true > > whilst flying back from the U.S on Virgin this monday I flicked through > the entertainment guide to see what was on offer : > Modern Rock Song came on - > it was quite different to the sessions - it sounds more produced (states > the obvious) - the trumpets go on for longer - I think? & Stuart sings > 'writing songs' instead on 'riding buses' - which i have heard is what > he sings live - & which I don't like as much. > Once upon a time, and it was a long time ago, on a flight to England, They had a little feature on The Farmer's Boys and "independent records." Thankfully (at the time, for now I don't care) I had my little recording walkman with me. I still have the tape and it sounds terrible, but it was nice to have an audio snippit of the journey. Does anyone remember The Farmer's Boys? Duke? Boy am I dating myself (and I must say, I'm a cheap date). [obligitory Buddy Holly lyric] Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jgalvin at xxx.edu Wed Jan 28 18:07:26 1998 From: jgalvin at xxx.edu (John M. Galvin) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 14:07:26 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Matador Message-ID: >The artists get autonomy on Matador, so no one will be butting in saying >"ummm...could you make this a little more like third eye blind?" i'm sure matador is better than most (or at least some)....but i don't think the artists are entirely autonomous. guided by voices, in particular, has had problems getting matador to release the material they want to release. i don't recall having heard that the label has wanted them to *change* their sound, per se--but it has definitely "canned" (temporarily or permanently, in some cases) some material in the name of not oversaturating the market. ______________________________________ John M. Galvin Morgan Hall 333 Harvard Business School Soldiers Field Boston, MA 02163 Tel: 617.495.6725 Fax: 617.496.6568 jgalvin at hbs.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Wed Jan 28 19:25:42 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:25:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian spotted at 37,000 feet!! References: <01BD2C09.7F8F0890@pine.druid.co.uk> <34CF7120.54A1@interaccess.com> Message-ID: <34CF8636.17B853AE@lineone.net> > Does anyone remember The Farmer's Boys? Duke? > Boy am I dating myself (and I must say, I'm a cheap date). join the club... u'm cheap and no-one takes me up on the offer. now that's sad :-( um, Farmers Boys, yes indeed i remember 'em well. fine Norfolk lads they were, were they not? i have the first single (i think it's the first... 'i think i need help' on Waap! records. 'the farmer's 12 inches' it says. And 'preserving the spirit of amateurism'. Those were the days... I used to have a tape of a live show at Glasgow Rooftops but i think the tape is either long since lost in the mists of Troon or it self destructed. The later i think, from over play back in 1983. i also have their first LP on EMI, with the free 12" of remixes... sounds, um, dated last time i listened, but there you go. They played on Crackerjack once, doing 'Out in the Country...' over and out. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From RKS at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 19:45:59 1998 From: RKS at xxx.uk (Russell Sharpe) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 19:45:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk request (the usual one) Message-ID: A B&S Novice Who Has Never Heard Tigermilk writes ... I wonder if any kind person (--->You Know Who You Are<---) with Tigermilk who has not already made 1000s of tapes for the HaveNots could please please please make one for me. (... no, no, I just wonder, that's all) In return ... any interest out there in German bands? I'm thinking Element Of Crime, Sterne, Flowerpornos, Technotronic, Freundeskreis but most particularly of Blumfeld. Worth knowing about (well I would say that wouldn't I?) tschuess rustle rks at datcon.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 20:36:54 1998 From: steve at xxx.uk (steve genge) Date: 28 Jan 1998 20:36:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: The Farmers Boys In-Reply-To: <34CF7120.54A1@interaccess.com> Message-ID: <68DC753E.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> > Does anyone remember The Farmer's Boys? Duke? > Boy am I dating myself (and I must say, I'm a cheap date). > Memories of The Farmers Boys - Seeing their video for "In The Country" starring Big Ron from Eastenders & lots of running about in, yes you've guessed it, the country. Someone in the band being called Frog Best of all I've still got their "Muck It Out" single as it's a rather wonderful shaped picture disc of a cartoon pig in sunglasses holding a ghetto blaster. Alas still no guarantee of a hit single. Weren't they always lumped in with the Higsons as the cutting edge East Anglian pop movement? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Jan 28 20:41:01 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 12:41:01 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: DISCO-A-GO-GO Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF030A637D@amerwksnt01.xil.com> <> hmmmm Well I am off to Londres, Ingleterre tomorrow! yay me. Can only hope they play B&S on my flight too, which is unfortunately not Virgin airlines but a girl can dream... take care all, taracita ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 22:14:19 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:14:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk solution Message-ID: <199801282101.VAA09797@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Right okey dokey The band haven't got time to promote a rerelease of Tigermilk Fine Then the simple solution is to release it as a bonus CD on their new album. The people who have to constantly make tapes must be getting *very* annoyed by now and also feeling unsafe in their beds for the prospect of a MacHamburglar stealing their precious copy. And also doesn't Vinyl wear out if you use it too much? Isn't this also unfair on our Tigermilk owning friends. (ps. Small Record Shop ad. in NME) Modern Rock Song due Feb? Dave and Katrina please confirm?!? Northy ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Jan 28 21:23:44 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 21:23:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk solution References: <199801282101.VAA09797@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34CFA1E0.3C5C0524@totalweb.co.uk> northy wrote: > > Right okey dokey > > The band haven't got time to promote a rerelease of Tigermilk > > Fine > > Then the simple solution is to release it as a bonus CD on their new > album. > > The people who have to constantly make tapes must be getting *very* > annoyed by now and also feeling unsafe in their beds for the prospect > of a MacHamburglar stealing their precious copy. > > And also doesn't Vinyl wear out if you use it too much? Isn't this > also unfair on our Tigermilk owning friends. most people who tape tigermilk for others seem to do so from a tape copy anyway, so as not to damage their tigermilk. so that doesn't apply. besides, i don't think the re-issue is just down to promotion time, it has a bit to do with what the band actually want. i mean, afterall it is their creation and they can do with it whatever they want regardless of what you or i want. > (ps. Small Record Shop ad. in NME) > Modern Rock Song due Feb? > > Dave and Katrina please confirm?!? sorry, it will not be in Feb, more likely May, this is the soonest anything will be out as the band finish mixing on the 17th Feb. please note WHEN SOMETHING IS SCHEDULED FOR RELEASE, WE WILL TELL YOU FIRST we don't know how many times this has to be said, we will let the fans know everything when it is confirmed. and isn't it better to have solid times and details from us rather than rumours from ads and press? david ps: the people who placed the ad have been corrected! -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Wed Jan 28 22:57:19 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 17:57:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: death and disaster only make me love you more Message-ID: <199801282257.RAA08853@Vector.inexpress.net> > Just a quick note on a couple of matters. Firstly, has anyone >else tried Ben F's Age game. HOW COOL IS THAT?? Way cool, I reckon. How >the hell does any one do any thing like that? Not only was it a good >laugh, but it also restored my faith in my abilities of mental >arithmetic. Cheers Ben. If you haven't tried it yet, seek it out and >maybe give it ago... I tried it to...I've seen ones like that before,I wonder..who makes them up? Do they jstu sit there for days and days and days and come up with it..or are they jsut simple rules of mathematics...right now I HATE MATH. Come monday night and I shall be banished to the basement by my parents. First they will give me the sad stares,then they will kill me. About the whole thing about music types and such...well my mom likes B&S,and that's a pretty good sign,when she thinks most of my music's crap (she's classical) once I put on the Verve and she yelled at me because she wanted B&S instead. It would be nice to have a star on my shoulder right now. Genevieve :( ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From saguillo at xxx.es Wed Jan 28 22:53:05 1998 From: saguillo at xxx.es (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jose_M=AA_Saguillo_Segovia?=) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 23:53:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My Arsenal Message-ID: <19980128230610.AAA7217@10.0.1.1.inf> hello there Someone asked about music likes, this is a list about my own arsenal: Po!, Le Mans, La Buena Vida, Haywains, Throw that beat in the garbagecan!, Another sunny day, FRANCOISE HARDY, Timi Yuro, Bridge, Kahimi karie, Field mice, Rileys, Popundret, B'hel, daybehavior, cessna, popguns, baccara, Hunky Dory, THE HUMMINGBIRDS (do you like them Katrina?), Monty, Les 5-4-3-2-1, Poison girlfriend, Tip-top planets, Frank and Walters( I saw them the last week here in madrid), Holiday, Komeda, Fat tulips, strawberry story, Helen love, Simon turner, Billy fury, FREE DESIGN, HARPERS BIZARRE, golden , comet gain, SUPER, EVEN AS WE SPEAK ( Katrina?), Heavenly, Talulah gosh, Sweetest ache, Delta, The time lodgers, RAMONES, vegetales, nikis, housemartins, loving spoonful, the searchers, hank williams, raphael, St. ettienne, Melons, Julie London, Nick Drake, LOVE, The left banke, Beach Boys, Village people, Jonathan Richman, acid house kings, red sleeping beauty, club 8. Well, that's enough by now any comment? cheers Jose Maria ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Wed Jan 28 22:36:38 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 20:36:38 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Baby Birkin Message-ID: <199801282043.UAA02747@gemeos.electus.com.br> Can anyone tell me anything about Baby Birkin ? I know they are from England , their singer is called Rachel and they love Serge Gainsboug. Sounds good for me..... Ivo A P Escossia ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Wed Jan 28 23:53:13 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:53:13 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: Baby Birkin Message-ID: <416ccc3d.34cfc4eb@aol.com> In a message dated 98-01-28 18:44:43 EST, escossia at electus.com.br writes: << Can anyone tell me anything about Baby Birkin ? >> Produced by Russel Senior, ex-Pulp guitarist. Or is it Russel Junior? Anyway, heard two songs; good. now listening to Puff Daddy, cause when it comes down to it, it's all about the benjamins baby... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 00:06:51 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 00:06:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Baby Birkin In-Reply-To: <199801282043.UAA02747@gemeos.electus.com.br> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Jan 1998, Ivo A P Escossia wrote: hiya Ivo, Well One thing I know is that Senior from PULP was in this or helping out in Baby Birkin..... for the time being? Cheers > > Can anyone tell me anything about Baby Birkin ? > I know they are from England , their singer is called Rachel and they love > Serge Gainsboug. > Sounds good for me..... > > Ivo A P Escossia > > D A N I E L O O "It takes Strength to be KIND and GENTLE" M O R R I S S E Y ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 03:00:30 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (aadam at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 22:00:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Cheap blank CDs Message-ID: <34CFF0CA.157C@interaccess.com> Due to the recent interest, I thought some of you might like to know (I'm not affiliated with these folks, but I use 'em a lot): http://www.tape.com/datheads.html ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mdp21 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 10:16:01 1998 From: mdp21 at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:16:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: death and disaster only make me love you more In-Reply-To: <199801282257.RAA08853@Vector.inexpress.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 28 Jan 1998 Genevieve wrote: > > > Just a quick note on a couple of matters. Firstly, has anyone > >else tried Ben F's Age game. HOW COOL IS THAT?? Way cool, I reckon. How > >the hell does any one do any thing like that? Not only was it a good > >laugh, but it also restored my faith in my abilities of mental > >arithmetic. Cheers Ben. If you haven't tried it yet, seek it out and > >maybe give it ago... > > I tried it to...I've seen ones like that before,I wonder..who makes them up? > Do they jstu sit there for days and days and days and come up with it..or > are they jsut simple rules of mathematics...right now > I HATE MATH. Come monday night and I shall be banished to the basement by my > parents. > First they will give me the sad stares,then they will kill me. Its very simple really... using a bit of arithmetic you can make up one to do anything you want. I was quite impressed that I could still cope with adding up in my head though, after four years of studying maths. My dad got it wrong though, and he's an engineer. Why don't you test your parents with it too? Love, Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Anna_Chapman at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 11:24:52 1998 From: Anna_Chapman at xxx.com (Anna_Chapman at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:24:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Age game. Message-ID: <8025659B.003EA30E.00@globalsmtp.idg.com> What is this age game. Can anyone fill me in. Cheers Anna. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nrbqlover at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 15:18:04 1998 From: Nrbqlover at xxx.com (Nrbqlover) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:18:04 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: Baby Birkin Message-ID: <3c1e4918.34d09dae@aol.com> << In a message dated 98-01-28 18:44:43 EST, escossia at electus.com.br writes: << Can anyone tell me anything about Baby Birkin ? >> the unnamed by the sea6 sez: >>Produced by Russel Senior, ex-Pulp guitarist. Or is it Russel Junior? Anyway, heard two songs; good. >> Clem would add: the band also features the most excellent Delia, ex-mambo taxi and current member of The Family Way who pays the rent by selling indie records at rough trade to saddoe mail order customers like myself. i like the single i've heard. clem lane nrbqlover at aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From JOA97JBH at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 17:00:31 1998 From: JOA97JBH at xxx.uk (J.B.Hunt) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:00:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: toy suicide pact Message-ID: <37A956F4137@broomhead.shef.ac.uk> Does anyone know anything about a B+S song called Toy Suicide Pact? Last April, around Glasgow's underground system, there were posters advertising the release of Dog On Wheels, and they basically consisted of a poem called Toy Suicide Pact, with a release date for DOW tagged onto the bottom. I can't remember much about it now, but having found Sinister I thought I'd throw it open. Uh, also... is it true that a Charlie Brown film was scheduled for the matinee performance in Manchester? When I heard this I lost the power of my legs, I was so excited. Is it just me, or are Belle and Sebastian extremely... Peanuts? I mean, the very first time I heard Seeing Other People I immediately thought of Linus and Lucy by Vince Guaraldi, which is the groovy tune that always plays in Peanuts films when it's time for Peanuts dancing. Ah well. Also, would anyone like to trade recordings of B+S radio sessions for a recording of Tigermilk? JBH ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 17:04:59 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:04:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Release dates In-Reply-To: <3c1e4918.34d09dae@aol.com> Message-ID: So B&S finish mixing the new material in mid February. How come they can't release it until May? What are they doing until then? Going to a three month long conference for hermits in Outer Mongolia? The Tall Git hey it's my birthday I'm allowed to spout bollocks... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Jan 27 20:19:13 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 20:19:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: wouldn't a B&S musical be so ace! Message-ID: A load of guff which involved adding up to find out about your ages.. went on to say..... You should now have a three digit number: The first digit of this was your original number (i.e. how many times you want to go out each week). The second two digits are your age!!! I actually arased doing this AND IT WORKS!! I got 716 and THATS WHAT I SAID/AM!!!! I am 16 and I said I'd go out 7 days a week. Oh wow oh wow. And I even was clever and did long multiplication to do 19 times 50!!! Not even the calculator next to me! I can't do long division though. I prefer JOY DIVISION! WOW! Ben Ferneyhough you are a genius! heck, I can't seem to stay off this list can I??? I loather microsoft. I'm going to kill Bill Gates. Anyone else want to join in? 'pooters are so cpitalist its unfair. And so are phone companies. I missed Stuart D last time and I bet I will miss him again. Not that I'd be interesting or anythig, not that I ever am and just can't bear to leave my 'pooter to learn Spanish words...... bueno, voy en mi habitacion ahora porque tengo muchos deberos. (thats as good as it gets!) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "......visionary and poet cursed work before trying it, and would only lift a finger to write a book. THE IDLE THOUGHTS OF A DAYDREAMER, Volumes 1 to 10. Ten in ten years. Like Felt records flowing freely from an uncluttered mind....." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 17:30:33 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:30:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sing Hosanna! Actual B&S content (sort of) for once! Message-ID: I have a dream! This is fabulous, I can never remember my dreams normally, but this morning one of them actually stuck in my head. Woohoo! So children, are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin... I can't actually remember most of the aforesaid nocturnal ramble, but I'll briefly outline the pertinent section, which is the bit I can recall clearly: I was walking through a big group of people, arranged in one of those oh-so-typical Sixties-student-film tableaux: you know, lovely young things with long hair in flowery frocks, paisley shirts and afghan coats decoratively spread out around the surface of an idyllic park-type setting in comfy, liberated, conversational groupings, deliciously disapproving of war and other nastinesses. Anyway, as I said, I was walking through this Garden of Earthly Delights, and I suddenly heard something very familiar: I looked around me, and I saw a girl with long blonde hair sitting by a fountain, singing and accompanying herself on an acoustic guitar. She was playing Modern Rock Song. Quite badly. This, of course, seemed perfectly logical while I was asleep, but as soon as I woke up I had one of those "What the hell was that all about" moments. I haven't even listened to Modern Rock Song for ages (well, a couple of weeks, which counts as ages in the relative scale of listening to B&S tracks). And why was she playing it so badly? She had a really whiny voice and everything. If this says anything disturbing about my psyche to anyone, don't hesitate to tell me and scar my fragile ego forever. Well, I'd better be orff then. I'm going to Canterbury (hurdy-gurdy street-performer capital of the Western World) tomorrow, which should be absolootly marvellous. Or something in that general line of description anyway. So, 'tis time to say Au revoir, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ********************************************* On a bus Outside this window A gull is caught in the sky Patiently waiting ******************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 17:26:36 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:26:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh clubs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Mr J J Sansom wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I'm gonna be in Edinburgh at the weekend on a charity hitch from > Coventry.So I was wondering if anyone could suggest some good alternative > clubs I could visit on Friday or Saturday night The Biscuitarse Club on a Friday night at The Garage (formerly The Nude Painter) is very popular, plays a wide range of indie music (from Oasis to Blur) and much loved by those on the list. If you're after something a bit less hardcore, I'd recommend Spunk at The Basement. Cheap to get in, but it closes at 11:30pm and the drinks are a fiver. Apart from that, there really are no other clubs at all in Edinburgh. Rod. (did this guy *READ* the list last week?!?) Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Tupperwarp: n. Condition of Tupperware left in the microwave too long ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 17:38:18 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Natalie Imbrooglywoogly) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:38:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: b&s comp????? In-Reply-To: <19980127175134.10183.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, DALE COOPER wrote: > hihi > > got a post from the list about the b&s metal comp. yesterday > > can this be true???? Don't be ridiculous. It was just someone taking the piss, because of that new techno remix album. Heavy Metal? Pah! Why that would be crazy. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Nutrasecond: n. The few seconds of pleasure before the after-taste of | a diet drink sets in. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 17:40:32 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Pissing In The Wind) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:40:32 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: This takes the BISkit Message-ID: Following BIS's name appearing on both these lists over the last week, people may be interested to know that there's going to be a couple of free BIS gigs in London and Glasgow. http://www.bisnation.co.uk for how to get your tickets. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Q-spicious: adj. Examining a cotton swab immediately after use to | make sure part of your brain isn't attached to it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 17:48:18 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Look Mum! A new e-mail address...) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:48:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Club nights? Message-ID: On Tue, 27 Jan 1998, adam the fool wrote: > And i think we should have a heated debate about little smileys rather > than the edinburgh clubs (bit far away you see...) ;o) > (I like mine to have a lopsided nose.) One of my new years resolutions was to give up smileys. "Signposts for the humour impaired" as someone so eloquently put it. Or "if you have to explain it, it isn't funny" to quote Paul Merton. I've created a special sig, though, just incase... > Oh yeah - valentines day soon - anyone else think this is the worst day > of the year? Naw - just time to dig out my Drugstore - "Solitary Party Groover" shirt! > What else? Well why don't we pick a day sometime next month and then all > phone Radio One's Most Wanted (freephone i think) and force Dave Pearce > to play Expectations (or whatever) that would be cool. Do you think if we all phoned up and requested that "Dangerous" Dave Pearce just fucked right off, he would? That would be infinitely preferable. I've met David Bowie, dontchaknow? ObB&S: I know someone called Jenny, and would like a photo of her, but I don't have one. Is that on-topic enough? Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | If you were at all offended by this message, please add some of | the following smileys to the text where appropirate: :) :) ;) :P ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 18:05:47 1998 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:05:47 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: happy bunny thanks Message-ID: Hi, A big thank you and a kiss on the elbow to Leslie Chinea who generously mailed me one of those cool double-sided B&S posters. Now the big question is what side to display -- the IYFS cover or the cool ad for gigs in Edinburgh and Glasgow? I feel lucky, oh so lucky .. (sung in my head to the tune of West SIde Story's "I feel pretty".) Hey, someone mentioned musicals, how about that for a B&S remake? Ooh, or the Sound of Music! B&S frolicking through the hills .. the religious aspects .. the puppet show .. the fact that Isobel looks a bit like Julie Andrews to me. Genevieve, make sure to check your snail mail often, as I'm sure half the guys on this list have squished themselves into boxes with air-holes and mailed themselves off to you, and they are probably eager to get out and stretch. (Hey, maybe that's why the list has been slow lately: too many people trapped in boxes!) I think there should be a French-Canadian remake of the great (but short-lived) US TV show "My So-Called Life." You would be the perfect Angela (Claire Danes) and your record store crush boy sounds just right for the part of gorgeous-but-aloof Jordan. Instead of sneaking out to go to a Buffalo Tom concert, you'd be going to see B&S, bien sur! HoneyPaul, how's the baby photo project going? I've had a look at the People page on your site and I must say, you all are cute but rather mature-looking babies! And Honey, don't you ever display in color? ;-) So MTV's Real World is filming here in Seattle now, kind of strange. Last night I almost went out for a drink to this bar a few blocks from my apartment but decided against it. I find out this morning that the Real World cast and crew showed up there and sort of took over the place. Hmm, close call. Well, as long as they don't try to perpetuate some dumb grunge stereotype, ugh. Oooh.. nice mellow song on the radio now, what is this .. "It's just another lovely day" by Ben Harper. Weird, I could swear he was saying another "lonely" day. I like that better. Hmm, what else .. Thanks to SDM (way too many boys with his first name connected to this list!) for more great tapes in the past month, including UK radio sessions and a backup copy of TM to ease my fears of ruining mine some day (gasp!) - Nicole, dreaming while awake ps. Hey, Katrina: Did you get that B&S Puncture article I faxed? If you hated it, remember that I was merely the messenger .. ------ nicolina at drizzle.com ------- "Whatever it is that pulls the pin, that hurls you past the boundaries of your own life into a brief and total beauty, even for a minute, it is enough." - jeannette winterson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From JOA97JBH at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 18:19:34 1998 From: JOA97JBH at xxx.uk (J.B.Hunt) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:19:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sorry... Message-ID: <37BE70F02A2@broomhead.shef.ac.uk> Jeez, I've just been through the archive, and noticed that B+S and Peanuts have already been discussed in excelsis. Doh. So sorry for the previous witter. Ho hum. If anyone in Ayrshire feels down after Blind Date and Family Fortunes on a Saturday, you should visit the Attic nightclub in Irvine. Not only is it very reminiscent of a school disco with lots of snogging and crisps, the DJ invariably plays Lazy Line Painter Jane. It's a fine moment. The dancefloor clears and about five people with a variety of disfigurements hobble on and dance furiously, then the record stops and Cast ooze out of the speakers and the B+S kids are trampled underfoot by a thousand retro trainers. Does anyone know the listing for the new single and/or the new LP, or is this something else that's already been done to death? JBH ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From dfactor at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 19:34:40 1998 From: dfactor at xxx.com (David Murrow) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:34:40 PST Subject: Sinister: Greetings & Salutations Message-ID: <19980129193440.19143.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey B & S cats -- I'm new to the list, and wanted to say hello. I found out about B & S through Anglophile Clem, and it is some of the most uniquely gorgeous pop I've heard since, well, OK, Freddie & the Dreamers! (kidding.....:-) Anyway, Like Dylan in the Movies is my bip-boppin' pop tune of the year. And I'm here to learn more about B & S from your in-country perspective (I lived in London '89-91, Amsterdam '91-96 and Brussels '96-'97 before heading back to Clintonville.) Clem wrote... >>>this music has SERIOUS crossover potential and being signed to a major indie here in the states can only help I can only agree on B & S's potential to open up dead ears in the US. In the past, I've made some indie pop / cool stuff tapes for one of my brothers with little feedback in return. But word back from younger bro on "If You're Only Feeling Sinster" has been very positive, and this is coming from a bozo who listens to Dead Person' Music -- really! Stevie Ray Vaughan, Hendrix, Doors, blah, blah, blah. Me? I like B & S songs ALOT. They're very fresh, witty, cheeky, lovely, groovy and pop-posaurus! 15 minutes with B & S? I wouldn't say no.... Proudly cognizant, Dfactor ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Thu Jan 29 19:33:00 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:33:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sorry... References: <37BE70F02A2@broomhead.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34D0D96C.FD9C8398@lineone.net> J.B.Hunt wrote: > Ho hum. If anyone in Ayrshire feels down after Blind Date and Family > Fortunes on a Saturday, you should visit the Attic nightclub in > Irvine. Irvine!? ha ha ha, that's even sadder than Ayr or Troon :-0 Sorry, i only ever got chased by Casuals in Irvine. Bad times. keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Thu Jan 29 19:29:37 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:29:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Release dates References: Message-ID: <34D0D8A1.772BC86@lineone.net> Stuart Gardiner wrote: > So B&S finish mixing the new material in mid February. How come they > can't > release it until May? What are they doing until then? Going to a three > > month long conference for hermits in Outer Mongolia? it's been said before, it'll be said again: Isobel is doing her Finals this year and one suspects that they don't want a load of promotional hokus pokus going on until after she's done all her exams. i think this is just fine... who comes first? band members or 'fans'? i know which i'd rather they gave priority to. respect, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Jan 29 19:37:43 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:37:43 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Quiz time Message-ID: <01bd2ced$5ed17ae0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: northy Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: martes 27 de enero de 1998 23:24 Asunto: Sinister: Reel around the fountain? http://moz.pair.com/information/stephane/covers.htm go to this link - scroll down to REEL AROUND THE FOUNTAIN it says that Belle and Sebastian have done a slower version of this song!!! Is this new news? Not to veterans of the indie wars like the lovely Andy Dean, who has a lengthy review of the gigs featuring said song on his website. Northy, I don't think you've read the entire Belle and Sebastian archive, have you? I bet you can't answer these questions: 1) Where did the concerts take place? 2) Who did Andy go with? 3) How did they travel? 4) Was it reasonably priced? 5) It was Andy's "first time". First time what? 6) Did he enjoy it? I know all this because it was one of the first things I read when I first lost my Internet virginity. Such was my excitement that I gleefully printed it out, and found it when we moved house. This is also an opportunity to point out my new e-mail address. Presuming the bloody thing works. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 19:42:59 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 19:42:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: toy suicide pact References: <37A956F4137@broomhead.shef.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34D0DBC3.129126DC@totalweb.co.uk> J.B.Hunt wrote: > > Does anyone know anything about a B+S song called Toy Suicide Pact? > Last April, around Glasgow's underground system, there were posters > advertising the release of Dog On Wheels, and they basically > consisted of a poem called Toy Suicide Pact, with a release date for > DOW tagged onto the bottom. I can't remember much about it now, but > having found Sinister I thought I'd throw it open. the poem in question is just a poem and was the advertisements were sponsored by the grosvenor cafe in hillhead. they carried the dog on wheels date but the poem is not actually a track as far as we're aware. > Uh, also... is it > true that a Charlie Brown film was scheduled for the matinee > performance in Manchester? When I heard this I lost the power of my > legs, I was so excited. Is it just me, or are Belle and Sebastian > extremely... Peanuts? I mean, the very first time I heard Seeing > Other People I immediately thought of Linus and Lucy by Vince > Guaraldi, which is the groovy tune that always plays in Peanuts films > when it's time for Peanuts dancing. Ah well. yeah, the ice creams were supposed to be given out during the film, but eventually there was a lot of problems finding a suitable projector that would work in the hall and would overpower the daylight streaming through the roof windows. defeat was admitted in the 11th hour when it became obvious that it wasn't going to happen. > Also, would anyone like to trade recordings of B+S radio sessions for > a recording of Tigermilk? > JBH david -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 23:28:40 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 23:28:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Lazy Line Posters Message-ID: <199801292215.WAA23623@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> I ordered my poster on Monday and got it on Wednesday so the people at VinylTap are pretty quick. Poster is brill and hanging up as the pride of my room but it does come folded and not in a proper poster sender so it has crease marks :( oh btw. if you are near a WH SMITHS in the near future go in and look for Lou Reed & The Velvet Underground (best of) I got it for £3 in Kingston today!!! I couldn't believe it! £3 for 20 great songs! Why pay £3.99 for the crap Perfect Day when you can get the good one plus 19 other songs Peace Man Northy ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mkorchia at xxx.fr Thu Jan 29 10:43:26 1998 From: mkorchia at xxx.fr (Michael Korchia) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:43:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Re: More extreme indieness References: <01bd2bd4$827fb2f0$100101c0@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34D05D4E.7134@club-internet.fr> Keith Watson wrote: > > >I should add that Pascale (my wife and singer in watoo watoo, whose mini > >album is out) sings on 'demain'. > > Watoo Watoo was the little japanese cartoon about a bird wasn't it? That was > my nickname at primary school for about a month. Actually it was a French cartoon! And yes, there was this nice bird, whistling 'too toolooloo toolooloolooloo' But you are the first person outside France who knows it; I thought that Watoo Watoo hadn't been broadcasted anywhere else. And Mumbly was an Hannah & Barberah cartoon too, but I think it used to be quite popular everywhere for awhile... -- Michael Korchia mkorchia at club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/05/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/00/aurore/emumbly.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Jeni421 at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 23:11:36 1998 From: Jeni421 at xxx.com (Jeni421 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:11:36 EST Subject: Sinister: happy bunny thanks Message-ID: Just wondering what Lisa Chinea's address was(E-Mail or otherwise). I had meant to send her an EMail about a poster but I never got around to it, and now I've lost her EMail address.Could you send it to me? Jeni ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From carsegus at xxx.es Thu Jan 29 17:12:33 1998 From: carsegus at xxx.es (Carlos) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:12:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: My Arsenal References: <19980128230610.AAA7217@10.0.1.1.inf> Message-ID: <34D0B881.2264@ergos.es> Jose Mª Saguillo Segovia wrote: > > Po!, Le Mans, La Buena Vida, Haywains, Throw that beat in the garbagecan!, > Another sunny day, FRANCOISE HARDY, Timi Yuro, Bridge, Kahimi karie, Field > mice, Rileys, Popundret, B'hel, daybehavior, cessna, popguns, baccara, > Hunky Dory, THE HUMMINGBIRDS (do you like them Katrina?), Monty, Les > 5-4-3-2-1, Poison girlfriend, Tip-top planets, Frank and Walters( I saw > them the last week here in madrid), Holiday, Komeda, Fat tulips, strawberry > story, Helen love, Simon turner, Billy fury, FREE DESIGN, HARPERS BIZARRE, > golden , comet gain, SUPER, EVEN AS WE SPEAK ( Katrina?), Heavenly, Talulah > gosh, Sweetest ache, Delta, The time lodgers, RAMONES, vegetales, nikis, > housemartins, loving spoonful, the searchers, hank williams, raphael, St. > ettienne, Melons, Julie London, Nick Drake, LOVE, The left banke, Beach > Boys, > Village people, Jonathan Richman, acid house kings, red sleeping beauty, > club 8. > > Well, that's enough by now > > any comment? yes, you have a very good taste: Harpers Bizarre, Free Design, The Left Banke, Francoise... are really excelent classy sixties pop But... Raphael? and... Village People? Carlos carsegus at ergos.es ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 00:03:56 1998 From: R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk (Richard Anderson) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 00:03:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BIS-Burn the suit!! Message-ID: <34D118EC.6F17@smtphost.dur.ac.uk> Like Hi, I hadn't found this BIS site before and am about to order the cool t-shirts. Ta Rod, my fashionableness is forever in your debt. Also isn't it cool how most B&S mesages get sent at night. Anybody would think were all insomniacs with warped personalities..... Rix ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 02:30:19 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 02:30:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ARAB CRAP! Message-ID: <199801300117.BAA11715@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Just been watching the NME Brat awards show on Channel 4 Arab Strap are absolute shite!!! Their set consisted of one fat Scottish bloke sitting on a stool and SAYING crap lyrics and then a pointless, non melodic crappy chorus of plain old guitars As I heard in "DreamTeam" yesterday.... "What a bunch of strokers" Ultrasound looking absolutely fucking brilliant though. What a song they placed!! I think I will see them at the Conway Hall in London now. I was gonna see Cornershop but naahhhh! bye Northy ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leslie.chinea at xxx.com Thu Jan 29 20:13:00 1998 From: leslie.chinea at xxx.com (leslie chinea) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 20:13:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: happy bunny thanks Message-ID: <00017318.4556@emimusic.com> Author: Jeni421 at aol.com wrote: >Just wondering what Lisa Chinea's address was(E-Mail or otherwise). I had >meant to send her an EMail about a poster but I never got around to it, and >now I've lost her EMail address.Could you send it to me? >Jeni Uh, it's Leslie not Lisa...and you are very welcome. Leslie (not Lisa - not that there's anything wrong with the name Lisa, it's just not my name...) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Fri Jan 30 02:35:09 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 21:35:09 EST Subject: Sinister: Let's hear chatter Message-ID: <22511d86.34d13c5f@aol.com> I am a bit surprised how many posting I do not receive when no one is discussing Air or Edinburgh clubs, or for that matter, lemurs--I have not heard a thing about those little primates on this list in months. So here is a quote to discuss, borrowed from Puncture magazine's article on B&S (the editors thought it was important because it is in bold type): "For many, idolizing Belle and Sebastian is an offensive move--a way to say that traditional bands are still worthy of debate and attention, and that their traditionally structured songs and sense of narrative are still relevant at a time when these very notions are being messed with by electronic music." As a side note, that was written by Elisabeth Vincentelli. You may or may not remember her as the reviewer of _IFYS_ in Rolling Stone. Personally I can not say that I agree with that statement; I have never considered my adoration of B&S a vote for guitar bands, as Ms. V seems to be attempting to divide music listeners into two camps. Are we really clinging to the last vestiges of personal folk whilst the radio soundscape is being fractured into anonymous pounding dance rhythms? Or am I making this too simple an argument? Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From img03 at xxx.jp Fri Jan 30 06:54:00 1998 From: img03 at xxx.jp (Aya Masuda) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 15:54:00 +0900 (JST) Subject: Sinister: ARIGATO I love you Message-ID: <199801300654.PAA23973@hp01.t-kougei.ac.jp> Hello B&S world! I'm coming directly to you from Tokyo Japan I just finish my graduate project. I think no more shouting"Oh get me away from here I'm dying!" in serious! I always listen "lazy lain painter Jane" during doing my project. Cool! My name is Aya and it means colorful in KANJI (Chinese character). I want to know what is your name mean? I really interest about "name" long time. Like, my friend T.J! For us (Japanese) doesn't make any sense.(sorry honey~) I just went to see stereolab the day before yesterday. I really like B&S!! Pizzicato5 used to be in number one band for me. AUSEMN!AUSEMN!AUSEMN! Is this e-mail cool? I tried really hard for this mail! I wish I spoke to you!! It is better for me to communicate in cool situation like this. sorry if I use wrong English. Love you all!! (But if you are cool boy and have flat in London and Paris, Second house in LA with great swimming pool, AND living in Amsterdam, You can get special LOVE from me!! ; - ) Haha~ Me Japanese girl AYA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Jeni421 at xxx.com Fri Jan 30 09:50:09 1998 From: Jeni421 at xxx.com (Jeni421 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 04:50:09 EST Subject: Sinister: happy bunny thanks Message-ID: <670bc12d.34d1a253@aol.com> Sorry about writing the wrong name. I am very bad about names and I was trying to rely on my own feeble memory. As you see, it has failed me again. Better luck next time.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Thu Jan 29 17:51:59 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 17:51:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Release dates References: Message-ID: <34D0C1BF.90253A86@virgin.net> Stuart Gardiner wrote: > > So B&S finish mixing the new material in mid February. How come they can't > release it until May? What are they doing until then? Going to a three > month long conference for hermits in Outer Mongolia? Well, people may not actually understand this, but it does actually take time to get artwork and test pressings and finished copies and promotions done etc. etc. etc. Even though the band won't be involved with most of that process, it still has to take place! :) sorry, i just went all record company on you again. apologies to everyone. cheers, Katrina. > The Tall Git > > hey it's my birthday I'm allowed to spout bollocks... > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Fri Jan 30 11:04:58 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:04:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: happy bunny thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 29 Jan 1998, Nicole Elger wrote: > I feel lucky, oh so lucky .. (sung in my head to > the tune of West SIde Story's "I feel pretty".) It works better to the tune of Pretty Vacunt by The Sex Pistols. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Wimbledown: n. The fuzz on tennis balls ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Fri Jan 30 11:12:03 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:12:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: ARAB CRAP! and BOGWAI! In-Reply-To: <199801300117.BAA11715@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, northy wrote: > Just been watching the NME Brat awards show on Channel 4 > > Arab Strap are absolute shite!!! Agreed. > Their set consisted of one fat Scottish bloke sitting on a stool and > SAYING crap lyrics and then a pointless, non melodic crappy chorus of > plain old guitars I bought the album after everyone raved about it, but just can't be arsed listening to it. It's just dull dull DULL. The Delgados are about the only decent thing on Chemikal Underground. Can't be bothered with Mogwai either. > Ultrasound looking absolutely fucking brilliant though. What a song > they placed!! I think I will see them at the Conway Hall in London > now. I was gonna see Cornershop but naahhhh! with support from Dawn of the Replicants who are also terribly ace. That's how I'm spending my Valentine's Day - at the Ultrasound concert. BTW, the NME tape that Ultrasound are on is the Oxford Sound City tape - I raked it out last night. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Aircapped: v. To be temporarily crippled when the airplane | passenger in front drives his seat back into your knees ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Jan 30 11:08:40 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:08:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ARAB ****! References: <199801300117.BAA11715@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <34D1B4B8.9760E4E6@virgin.net> northy wrote: > > Just been watching the NME Brat awards show on Channel 4 > Arab Strap are absolute shite!!! > Their set consisted of one fat Scottish bloke sitting on a stool and > SAYING crap lyrics and then a pointless, non melodic crappy chorus of > plain old guitars > As I heard in "DreamTeam" yesterday.... > "What a bunch of strokers" ooh, watch the backlash northy ... quick tag, protect him! > Ultrasound looking absolutely fucking brilliant though. What a song > they placed!! I think I will see them at the Conway Hall in London > now. Ummm, am i the only person who thinks Ultrasound are going to fall flat on their faces this year??? I may as well plug the snow patrol gig on Feb 12th at backyard @ water rats ... they are also playing dundee, glasgow, perth, edinburgh, manchester, oxford, bristol, leeds and norwich too, so if anyone wants the dates just mail me privately. I think Arab Strap are fantastic and i don't care if i can't always understand what Aidan is saying. enuff for now ... Katrina. > bye > > Northy > > ________________________________________________ > > get up > turn light on > take gown > don gown > look inside pocket > take analgesic > > _________________________________________________ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Jan 30 11:27:12 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:27:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: My Arsenal References: <19980128230610.AAA7217@10.0.1.1.inf> Message-ID: <34D1B910.B6477B34@virgin.net> Jose Mª Saguillo Segovia wrote: > Hunky Dory, THE HUMMINGBIRDS (do you like them Katrina?) i used to love the hummingbirds, but as i was too young, i never got to see them at home ... ho hum :( > golden , comet gain, SUPER, EVEN AS WE SPEAK ( Katrina?) i don't know them ... are they australian too? shelley????? bye bye, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Jan 30 11:49:43 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:49:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Alternative Nation Message-ID: <34D1BE57.3E7FC356@virgin.net> Just thought i'd let you all know, that there is a special Scottish edition of Alternative Nation next Tuesday 3rd Feb - (MTV, 11pm - 1am). They will be the first tv show to air the video for Jeepster's new signing snow patrol debut single "little hide", and will follow it with B&S's "Dog On Wheels" (unless Colin changes his mind and plays oneof the other two!) You heard it here first ... set those videos now! There'll also be Pastels & Orange Juice clips too, and maybe even some Arab Strap (well, if they made a video anyway!) Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 11:58:14 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:58:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Let's hear chatter Message-ID: <199801301156.LAA10683@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> > Look, I don't even know if what follows is worth saying. Your best bet is > to delete it now. But i've written it now so bollocks to it. But don't say > I didn't warn you. > > Matt quoted: > >"For many, idolizing Belle and Sebastian is an offensive move--a way to > say > >that traditional bands are still worthy of debate and attention, and that > >their traditionally structured songs and sense of narrative are still > relevant > >at a time when these very notions are being messed with by electronic > music." > > Uhh, well I kind of agree and disagree with that, for various reasons... > > 1. B&S do represent something of a return to guitar pop for me, after a > while away...so for me they say exactly that geetar music is still worthy > of attention (though I would prefer to say guitar music can still sound > fucking brilliant and make me laugh and cry...) > > 2. pop is (or can be) all about positioning yourself, for and against, > what's wrong and right. But I have to say that B&S are a way to say that > guitar music can still be beautiful and subtle and (shhh...) touching > without succumbing too much to traditional roccknroll business bullshit > and, in particular, laddish boor-rock. > > Where I disagree is that I think B&S, if they relate to anything else > musical at all, are all about the world of indiepop... I think they're > pretty much irrelevant to 'electronic music' (and, brilliant though it is, > 'Electronic Renaissance' supports my point...). To make a statement about > electronic music (which I take to mean the broad dance field- jungle, > techno, hardcore, speed garage, whatever- plus hip hop and stuff) by > liking B&S would be pointless, says I. > > Like dancing about architecture, as Thelonius once said... > > tim H ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From l.m.hosie at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 12:25:43 1998 From: l.m.hosie at xxx.uk (Lorraine Hosie) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 12:25:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: ARAB STRAP in "we sound like B&S scandal" In-Reply-To: <199801300117.BAA11715@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <6A3F82E39D0@SERVER.SCOT.AC.UK> > From: "northy" > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 02:30:19 +0000 > Subject: Sinister: ARAB CRAP! > Reply-to: "northy" > > > Arab Strap are absolute shite!!! > > Their set consisted of one fat Scottish bloke sitting on a stool and > SAYING crap lyrics and then a pointless, non melodic crappy chorus of > plain old guitars > Sorry if this offends but it has come to the attention of my friend and I that "Century of Elvis" does undoubtedly sound like Arab Strap or Vica Versa (whatever) - 2 Scottish bands in singer-vocalike shock! And my friend Campbell went to the same school as Arab Strap. ---I might add that when I saw them "supporting" Gorky's in Dundee, everyone talked all through their set - it was like a choir on speed......Lx_________________________________________________ > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Fri Jan 30 13:25:17 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:25:17 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: ARAB STRAP in "we sound like B&S scandal" Message-ID: <199801301325.OAA27972@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Lorraine Hosie wrote in a reply to ***** ... >> Arab Strap are absolute shite!!! >> >> Their set consisted of one fat Scottish bloke sitting on a stool and >> SAYING crap lyrics and then a pointless, non melodic crappy chorus of >> plain old guitars >> >Sorry if this offends but it has come to the attention of my friend >and I that "Century of Elvis" does undoubtedly sound like Arab Strap >or Vica Versa (whatever) - 2 Scottish bands in singer-vocalike shock! The first comparable tune that stroke my mind when obtaining "The first big weekend" 7" was "Mike the bike" by the Claim which can be found on the "Birth of a teenager" 7" (UK/Caff 08/'90) ... On now: _The World's First 10" Irritation Disk_ - Orange Juice Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 11:44:15 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 11:44:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Killing an ARAB and BOGSHED Message-ID: <01bd2cab$39e216f0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >> Ultrasound looking absolutely fucking brilliant though. What a song >> they placed!! I think I will see them at the Conway Hall in London >> now. I was gonna see Cornershop but naahhhh! Indeed the track on the NME tape is lovely, my mate tells me the current single's a bit dull but what a track on the NME tape, certainly brings Marquee Moon to mind, but in a very good way. The annoying bit being the fact that this bloke out of Ultrasound's taking such a slagging for being a big bloke, even the fucking NME's joining in on this, can't they just leave him to get on with it, it's very poor form, and the track I've heard is way beyond the capacity of many a young band (one band from Edinburgh with a little pink haired chap in it springs to mind! Idlewild who are getting the most ridiculous amount of press attention at the moment - due to them having released a single on "Mr.Indie" Steve Lamacq's label used to play to a completely bored audience at the student union in Edinburgh last year, this years Ned's Atomic Dustbin... Oh, that's Symposium is it? Well This years second Ned's Atomic Dustbin perhaps). Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Message-ID: <01bd2cba$62d38350$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >> Just been watching the NME Brat awards show on Channel 4 >> Arab Strap are absolute shite!!! >> Their set consisted of one fat Scottish bloke sitting on a stool and >> SAYING crap lyrics and then a pointless, non melodic crappy chorus of >> plain old guitars >> As I heard in "DreamTeam" yesterday.... >> "What a bunch of strokers" Only time I saw Arab Strap was supporting B+S at the Moir Hall (in Manchester I was too busy drinking to watch them), and the main problem to me was that you couldn't hear what was going on, not a misunderstanding problem (I lived in Falkirk for 6 years - believe me, his accent's very posh compared to what it could've been), the guitar was all out of tune too which didn't help. I don't think they're bad, but I don't think they're that good either, I do think they get a disproportionate amount of press for what they are, I don't know how they're going to sustain interest just doing that sort speaky over guitar chord stuff. Having said that, their remix of David Holmes' "Don't Die just Yet" is brilliant, and by far and away the best thing they've done, reminds me of De la Soul. "The Clearing" I thought I liked until I realised i was playing it at the wrong speed, and playing it at the correct speed seemed to dullen it a bit. I do like Mogwai though, I think they'd be even better if they did collaborations with singers perhaps, as again, I think it'd be pretty tricky to continue much longer just doing the same thing. Another Glasgow band who seem to have been very much overlooked in the recent cases of overexposure are Long Fin Killie, who make a dead nice Bark Psychosis-esque noise which is really good, Luke's voice is amazing, although unfortunately they've just split up. Keith. Also, the person who was talking about A Century of Elvis.. I don't doubt for a second this was heavily inspired by Arab Strap. Which brings me on to another point, are B+S really all acting members of the T.A.? :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 14:37:40 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 14:37:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I've got no enthusiasm to even answer the phone... Message-ID: <199801301436.OAA14546@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Keith wrote: >I do think they [Arab Strap]get a disproportionate amount of press for what they >are, I don't know how they're going to sustain interest just doing that sort >speaky over guitar chord stuff. >"The Clearing" I thought I liked until I realised i was playing it >at the wrong speed, and playing it at the correct speed seemed to dullen it >a bit. Ha! Me too... >I do like Mogwai though, I think they'd be even better if they did >collaborations with singers perhaps, as again, I think it'd be pretty tricky >to continue much longer just doing the same thing. What's this? the Keith Watson rock and roll consultancy hour? Have your artistic career redirected coutesy of all-seeing Keith ? :-) > Another Glasgow band who seem to have been very much overlooked in the >recent cases of overexposure are Long Fin Killie, who make a dead nice Bark >Psychosis-esque noise which is really good, Luke's voice is amazing, >although unfortunately they've just split up. Doh! If only they'd come to you earlier.... tim h ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 15:21:02 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 15:21:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I've got no enthusiasm to even answer the phone... Message-ID: <01bd2cc9$82f11c10$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> > >I do like Mogwai though, I think they'd be even better if they did > >collaborations with singers perhaps, as again, I think it'd be >pretty tricky > >to continue much longer just doing the same thing. > What's this? the Keith Watson rock and roll consultancy hour? Have >your artistic career redirected coutesy of all-seeing Keith ? :-) Err.. No, just an opinion - that's the purpose of the 'I think' construct as seen above. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Jan 30 15:44:31 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:44:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Let's hear chatter Message-ID: <01bd2d95$f51f7b20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: PKHINTZ at aol.com Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: viernes 30 de enero de 1998 4:44 Asunto: Sinister: Let's hear chatter > >"For many, idolizing Belle and Sebastian is an offensive move--a way to say >that traditional bands are still worthy of debate and attention, and that >their traditionally structured songs and sense of narrative are still relevant >at a time when these very notions are being messed with by electronic music." > What surprises me is that guitar bands still rule the earth, or at least that's the way it seems when all the end of year polls come through. Not that I particularly mind, but there was a time when vaguely radical records were awarded record of the year, things like Public Enemy. So support of structure and narrative seems to me to be a vote for the Staus Quo, rather than any kind of offensive move. There, that's my contribution. No lemurs and only one very poor joke. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ah6991 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 16:18:40 1998 From: ah6991 at xxx.uk (adam the fool) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:18:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sinister-digest V2 #41 (fwd) Message-ID: >> Does anyone know of any decent indie nights in bristol > >no. but we know of a darn fine club in exeter of a sunday night, except >no-one came this weekend except Adrian, and i felt stupid cos it was ten >times emptier than usual and made me look like a right sad git. okay, >sadder than usual... Exeter's a long way... is the night that good? > we're going to run the entire Twin Peaks series on >about five TV's with hopefully the soundtrack mixed in with lots of >interesting stuff. Hmmm. Will this get us punters? i wonder if any of >B&S are David Lynch fans? i wonder what their fave movies are... don't >tell me; hal hartley features. i know, i know... I love what saw of twin peaks but i was a bit young back when it was on telly and mum thought i was too young. i haven't got around to watching them on video yet either *sigh*. Who is Hal Hartley? >> Oh yeah - valentines day soon - anyone else think this is the worst >> day >> of the year? > >only if you accept it's existence. it's easy to deny it you know... if >harder to actually ignore it. Difficult when you live with the sort of people who get four or five and don't stop "Wondering Who They Could Possibly Be From" (ie gloating) for days. (I can't believe i sound this bitter ;) >> What else? Well why don't we pick a day sometime next month and then >> all >> phone Radio One's Most Wanted (freephone i think) and force Dave >> Pearce >> to play Expectations (or whatever) that would be cool. > >because he'd probably have to mail this list and ask if someone could >make him a tape copy of Tigermilk. There are at least 300 intelligent (?) people with access to the latest technology on this list, i think that there could be some scope for collective action here. Possibly taking over the world? Maybe just trying to put the nme out of buisness... Or we could just carry the word to the unbeliever (via tigermilk tapes.) What do you think? Saw a band called King Billy and Marvellous (dead good) at Thekla last night and they had DROOPY cartoons (amongst others) projected behind them and it was brilliant. I thought B&S could fill in the gaps on stage by using peanuts cartoons maybe? See ya Love adam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Jan 30 15:55:25 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:55:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Shah Shah a Go Go Message-ID: <01bd2d97$7ad60580$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Keith Watson Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: miércoles 28 de enero de 1998 18:57 Asunto: Sinister: Shah Shah a Go Go >This bit about eclecticism etc, B+S fans only being into this and that and >stuff. More of a point was the fact that probably the only people I've ever >met who are only into one specific type of music invariably aren't into it >for the music at all... Make of this what you will, but in my experience it >certainly seems to be the case. Hmm...I've got a friend who listens almost exclusively to Bruce Springsteen, and he's definitely into it for the music, or at least not to be cool or anything, otherwise he wouldn't have chosen Bruce Springsteen. I know he's really into it because I've seen him dancing drunk to "Born in the USA", quite an alarming sight. I made enquiries about "Nebraska" because I had heard it was a strong anti-Reagan protest album, and he let me borrow it, but I thought it was shit. I didn't tell him though. It is all very narrative based, like B&S, but there's almost always a character called Frankie in the songs. I've never met anyone called Frankie. At any rate, I didn't find it particularly chilling, despite the best efforts of Greil Marcus to convince me otherwise. > >Phew... Bad day at work... nothing's working today. Frankie went down to the coffee machine And discovered that it was out of order. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Fri Jan 30 17:14:13 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 17:14:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Claim References: <199801301325.OAA27972@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: <34D20A65.4DB1B6DC@lineone.net> Perfection As A Hipster wrote: > The first comparable tune that stroke my mind when obtaining "The > first big > weekend" 7" was "Mike the bike" by the Claim which can be found on the > > "Birth of a teenager" 7" (UK/Caff 08/'90) ... Andreas, i love you, but you knew that already :-) The Claim were fucking genius, as the boy Hopkins will also testify, and 'Mike The Bike', with one Vic templar on the speech front, was, to coin the hopkins phrase book, a copper-bottomed classic. 'Birth Of A Teenager' was no slouch either. If anyone wants to hear The Claim mail me and i'll make a tape... keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Fri Jan 30 16:41:15 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 16:41:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Let's hear chatter References: <199801301156.LAA10683@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34D202AB.3E3BFD7B@lineone.net> > > Like dancing about architecture, as Thelonius once said... i always thought it was mr Coltrane, but i bow to your superior knowledge on this... And i think what you said about b&s was top notch :-) sycophantically, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Jan 29 18:19:19 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 18:19:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manic Street Belle and Sebastian? Message-ID: <$+GaAPAngM00EwMt@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Hello! I'm going to take up a long time of your life now because this is something that means a lot to me that I have written. [And i bet in the digest this message is sandwiched between two messages about pamplemousses and zanahorias :o)] Duke wrote...... <> Ahem. I'm in sixth form. *Coughs*. And I wrote some poetry last week. They made me do it for creative writing and they were pretty good if you ask me. I'm well aware of the pretenious 6th former s/type. Why I found it hard writing the poetry and I was scared of being arsey. manics and B&S stuff.... Keith said they (MSP) were pants....well pants are very essential to life keith. I...they mean so much to me. Not just because of their arsey 6the form lyrics, which by the way is complete and utter shite, because tey believed in the importance of Rock, they talk about people and things that I believe in, made me feel connected into soething for once. I used to think I was cracking up at high school, I seriously did, then I found the Manics and found this whole amazing cultural, lyrical phenomenon. Where the hell else was a band who spoke to *me*, who talked about poetry and poiltics? And also had very good ROCK music??? Its the manics.... <> I love both. I love the Manics. I like Radiohead too, but not as much, in small doses. I also love B&S. I choose all three. What road in Pop am I now traversing I wonder? A bloody strange one methinks. I love Stuarts lyrics. Why I ask myself? becaseu tey are melancholy and sweet. Like a ray of sunshine shining through your window on a cloudy day. The Manic lyrics, well, The Holy Bible is the horrible reality of depression, anorexia, holocaust rolled into one jolly europop bundle, and I think that it a frightening masterpiece of this godamm century. EMG is sad but sweeping. If You're Feeling Sinister, is gentle lovliness, which I adore. But it will never shock, confront. And I don't want B&S to. I'm confused, I never know quite what I feel, but I know what I like, probably to quote someone else there. MSP ..... heck I'm trying to define what has alluded me for years now...... but oh dear I think I'm getting most inarticulate. I will probably spend a few more wasted years of my youth pondering bittersweet nothings about Pop! Manics, B&S AND WHAT THE HELL IT ALL MEANS! I got talking to my French teacher at Open Evening the other day. I had written a quote in French by Sartre on the board as examples of what languages you learna t newman bla bla. We got to talking about Camus. I said that I couldn't afford a copy of the Outsider, and the Library didn't have it. So Stuart goes, Oh, I've got loads, you cn have one! I think yipee! Lucky me now has a copy of L'etranger. Fully in French. Its bloody hard enough to read in English! But I'm getting through it. I neeed a better french dictionary though. au resevoir. :o) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "......visionary and poet cursed work before trying it, and would only lift a finger to write a book. THE IDLE THOUGHTS OF A DAYDREAMER, Volumes 1 to 10. Ten in ten years. Like Felt records flowing freely from an uncluttered mind....." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Fri Jan 30 18:25:20 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:25:20 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: The Claim Message-ID: <199801301825.TAA29546@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> The Duke of Harringay wrote ... >Perfection As A Hipster wrote: > >> The first comparable tune that stroke my mind when obtaining "The >> first big >> weekend" 7" was "Mike the bike" by the Claim which can be found on the >> "Birth of a teenager" 7" (UK/Caff 08/'90) ... > >Andreas, i love you, but you knew that already :-) The Claim were >fucking genius, as the boy Hopkins will also testify, and 'Mike The >Bike', with one Vic templar on the speech front, was, to coin the >hopkins phrase book, a copper-bottomed classic. 'Birth Of A Teenager' >was no slouch either. If anyone wants to hear The Claim mail me and >i'll make a tape... Actually I've dropped the Claim for your delight and knew that you would continue this thread. §;^D Anyway, following my experience I thought I'd mention that the complete Claim output suits a C60 cassette perfectly, but you could also compile a C90 cassette adding some early Hurrah! stuff for the clever listees pursueing your generous offer ... "Hip hip" ... or ... "Are you scared to get happy ?" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 18:58:23 1998 From: C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk (C Browning) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:58:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: newcomer type stuff Message-ID: i always hate first e.mails to mailing lists. you come across all naive and stupid because you don't know the protocol and jargon. but i've never been in a mailing list as - well - argumentative as this one! i don't mean bickering but everytime i check my e.mail i have about five new messages - makes me look dead popular as well. and i must admit its rather fun. on the XTC list, people tend to just dream about new recordings, on the flying nun one i get frustrated cos i'll never be able to track down the arsing stuff but here each e.mail seems to be genuinely interesting discussing the musical underbelly of the uk. here at loughborough music is still in the oasis/prodigy predictable glut so its a refreshing change to have all this discussion about bands like ultrasound and mogwai and the beloved b&s who will be shaping the music world for years to come, when people have finally realised the vacuity of the brothers gallagher. to me "if you're feeling sinister" had the effect on first listening that i imagine a listener thirty odd years ago would have had first listening to someone like nick drake. in many ways he's as influential in the world of music now as ever, name dropped all over the place. belle and sebastian have that air of unprecious naturally polished jewel that, just because it isn't big and obvious isn't appreciated by the masses. but neither should it be. i admit i do tend to choose my favourite bands from their rating as undiscovered classic, obscure type categories. but good music is good music. you may like arab strap (i found it a little - er - wilfully amateur for amateur's sake, but i'm sure they were fully aware of that) or the manics (too earnest for me , but hey they covered 'taking teh skin heads bowling' so we know they have some sense of humour) or the beegees as far as i care. i'll even let some people off for liking oasis (only just though) but whatever belle and sebastian are to me, unlike any other band out there. i played the album once and knew i will be playing it for as long as i have arms to press the button marked play and ears to hear it. and that surely is teh mark of good music. before you all write and ask me what the hell i'm on about, i'd just like to say i'm not really sure. but hey. let me off. i'm new. thanks for making life at loughborough a little more interesting with your discussions at any rate. i think i'll be happy here as it were. i'll stop rambling now and go. chris browning ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Jan 30 19:04:13 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:04:13 GMT Subject: Sinister: It's like thunder. And lightning. The way you love me, it's frightening. In-Reply-To: <199801301546.PAA16153@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199801301546.PAA16153@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <34d414a8.20123575@email.mcmail.com> Hmm, Been a bit quiet this week. What was all that age game bollocks? Today's was OK though. And so, without further ado... J.B.Hunt wrote >Jeez, I've just been through the archive, and noticed that B+S and >Peanuts have already been discussed in excelsis. Doh. So sorry for >the previous witter. Hey, what a nice man! >Ho hum. If anyone in Ayrshire feels down after Blind Date and Family >Fortunes on a Saturday, you should visit the Attic nightclub in >Irvine. Not only is it very reminiscent of a school disco with lots >of snogging and crisps, Wahey!!! I went to an ace club in Finland which was like a school disco, only cool - they played 'Stoned love' and 'Knock on wood' and 'Deep' by East 17 AND Serge Gainsbourg (all ace records), and at the end everyone smooched to 'Forever Young' by Alphaville, which, I am not ashamed to say, is a top Euro classic. Yes, my perfect club! Ricky Tikki Tavi Northy wrote: >I ordered my poster on Monday and got it on Wednesday so the people >at VinylTap are pretty quick. > >Poster is brill and hanging up as the pride of my room but it does >come folded and not in a proper poster sender so it has crease marks >:( Oh, god! That's just awful. Can we all rally round? A benefit gig, something like that. >Peace Man And you brother. >Arab Strap are absolute shite!!! Witty, pithy, and incisive. >Their set consisted of one fat Scottish bloke sitting on a stool and >SAYING crap lyrics and then a pointless, non melodic crappy chorus of >plain old guitars Fat Scottish blokes are bastards aren't they? Should have slaughtered the lot of them at Culloden. They've got funny accents too. Aya wrote >If you are cool boy and have flat in London and Paris, >Second house in LA with great swimming pool, >AND living in Amsterdam, You can get special LOVE from me!! ; - ) Haha~ You've been spying on me, haven't you? Katrina wrote >ooh, watch the backlash northy ... quick tag, protect him! With my life, if necessary. Serious bit... Tim wrote > 1. B&S do represent something of a return to guitar pop for me, after a > while away...so for me they say exactly that geetar music is still worthy > of attention (though I would prefer to say guitar music can still sound > fucking brilliant and make me laugh and cry...) I totally agree. I was talking to someone else about this, about how B&S are the first guitar band in years who are capable of combining humour and beauty since, dare I say it the Go Betweens. > 2. pop is (or can be) all about positioning yourself, for and against, > what's wrong and right. But I have to say that B&S are a way to say that > guitar music can still be beautiful and subtle and (shhh...) touching > without succumbing too much to traditional roccknroll business bullshit > and, in particular, laddish boor-rock. The same person I had the discussion above with said pop is everything he loves and everything he doesn't like isn't pop. It's simplistic but I don't think any other definition will do. > Where I disagree is that I think B&S, if they relate to anything else > musical at all, are all about the world of indiepop... No. No. I really don't like this. Why should they 'relate' to anything? Their beauty is that they have captured far more than the hearts of a faithful indiebopper crowd. Indie is a word I truly despise, it's so damn limitting There's nothing wrong with independence, but it's an attitude, not just a lazy banner. How many unimaginative worthy but dull bands fall under that category? Tim then went on to say they didn't relate to electronic music, which is almost certainly true, but so what? I don't see them flying the flag for anything, other than great fucking records, which give me a rush and make me want to get up in the morning. And Ann Sexton, the last All Saints single, Francoise Hardy and Etienne de Crecy all do that too. I suspect Tim knows this too, but I really don't want Belle and Sebastian being put into any cosy indie category, because they're better than that. Aren't they? Did anyone see that thing about Richey Manic in the Melody Maker? Talk about gutter journalism. Fuck, I missed the Simpsons. All the love you can eat, Tag xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 19:02:58 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:02:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Musings... In-Reply-To: <199801301825.TAA29546@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Message-ID: Someone said a couple of days ago that they thought B&S fans fell into 2 camps, obscure indiepoppers or Manics/Suede types. I've been thinking about this, and I reckon the vast majority of people on this list seem to fall into just one category; that our musical tastes are eclectic. When we find some music we like, we'll buy it and listen to it; it doesn't matter what type of music it is. After all, that's probably how most of us got into B&S in the first place. Personally my taste in music would appear pretty random to a lot of people (Dweeb but not Bis, Catatonia but not Sleeper, Carter USM but not Red Hot Chilli Peppers etc); but the fact is that that was the music that did something for me at a time. I've often suprised people (and even sometimes myself) by liking some band or other unexpectedly; and I'm sure that's why I don't think I've ever met anyone with exactly the same taste as me. I expect most other people on this list are the same; our taste is so varied that it is impossible to define. We are the people that the major labels and the music press, with their love of pigeonholing every band into a suitable genre, must hate, because they can't predict what we're going to like. And neither can we. On another matter, this business of basically talking over an instumental track isn't unique to Arab Strap by any means. Pulp have made it one of their trademarks, and even Blur have done it (with some success) on Essex Dogs. It may not have a name yet (any suggestions?) but it is easy to see it becoming as popular in the future as rapping has become over the last ten years or so. I very much doubt if Century Of Elvis will remain a one-off. The Tall Git ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 20:52:01 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:52:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: (Arab Crap)..he...he...I started a discussion *neagghh* Message-ID: <199801301938.TAA21815@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Hey List > Katrina said... > Ummm, am i the only person who thinks Ultrasound are going to fall flat > on their faces this year??? Quite possibly yes. The fat bloke was wearing an old mans cardigan and they still rocked. Therefore they must be brilliant (plus the song was brilliant) The line I especially didn't like in the Arab Crap song was the "she wanked me off" I mean come on what sort of a sick, disgusting, "I just don't want to know" lyric is that. Anyone out there Welsh? I am a quater Welsh and I'm going to Bangor uni in the summer and....erm.....I like Catatonia. So I basically am! ___________________________smiths bit_____________ OK...so now I have bought the Queen is Dead and Louder than Bombs. They're both great. Louder than Bombs takes a few listens but it is brill. Who did the original "Golden Lights" then? What should I buy next?!? Most of the other albums seem to have 6 or so tracks that I already have on the Louder than Bombs album! __________________________________________________________ Peace Man! Northy ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 20:52:38 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:52:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Get attention by swearing in your subject....it worked for me! Message-ID: <199801301939.TAA21891@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Hey listies and especially Rob! > > Arab Strap are absolute shite!!! > > Agreed. Thank God! Someone agreeing with me for a change! > with support from Dawn of the Replicants who are also terribly ace. > That's how I'm spending my Valentine's Day - at the Ultrasound concert. See ya there! I'm getting my tickets when I go up to London to see Catatonia! Great support I agree. > BTW, the NME tape that Ultrasound are on is the Oxford Sound City tape - I > raked it out last night. Yeah I got this too. This song is OK but the one they played on Channel 4 was just so so so so so so so so so brilliant! I don't actually think that they are playing London on Valentines....oh....I bet you're not from London right? Peace Man Northy ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Fri Jan 30 20:00:44 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:00:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: It's like thunder. And lightning. The way you love me, it's frightening. References: <199801301546.PAA16153@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> <34d414a8.20123575@email.mcmail.com> Message-ID: <34D2316C.6AA6B439@lineone.net> Tag wrote: > Did anyone see that thing about Richey Manic in the Melody Maker? > Talk about gutter journalism. talk about it... no don't. made me write my own little thing about Richey which i will be posting on the Tangents site just as soon as i can code it and get some nice piccies. up before the end of the eve... respect, duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Fri Jan 30 20:37:14 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 98 20:37:14 GMT Subject: Sinister: Whats the difference between Clinton and the Titanic? Only 200 people went down on the Titanic References: <980130200754.n0007980.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <980130203714.n0007981.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 30 Jan 98, Aya Masuda wrote... >Hello B&S world! >I'm coming directly to you from Tokyo Japan >Is this e-mail cool? >I tried really hard for this mail! >I wish I spoke to you!! It is better for me to communicate in cool >situation like this. Genevieve your crown is under threat so get your madcap hat on and repeat after me: 'I love you fishcake boy, your elbows are so like , um how do I say? pointy pointy .' >I want to know what is your name mean? >I really interest about "name" long time. It means purity and innocence. No laughing at the back there. Tag wrote about being annoyed about the fat one from Ultrasound being harpooned for being so disgustingly fat and lardy. Well, I think I remember telling you this but Tiny (for that is his name) moved into a room in our house in Newcastle when I was a student, during the summer and just before we moved out. He spent his days and nights living in a single bed with a girl, 2, no 3 times the size of him, and it was a constant source of amazement and wonder to us all that they only emerged in four whole weeks to eat or go to the loo. Thankfully, I never got to see his whole stomach until last week in the Maker or something and there it was in all its shining rippling glory. Well, Tiny, good on you mate, I hope you have a whale of a time in your new found pop career, but whatever you do, don't come blubbering to me when it all bursts and you're left washed up on the beach. Susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 18:50:38 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:50:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: SPIRTUALIZED! Message-ID: Hola! Spiritualized are playing manchester on march the 14th.....and I really really want to go...but can find no-one to come along! Are any listee people planning on going, and is there an way, if possible, kinda-ish, sorta way I could tag along, or go with you??? Because I think Spirtualized are just so amazing, and I really really want to go and not y myself which would be kinda nasty.... So, does anyone want to meet up? I'm nice, really! Please!!!! Well thats my brief begging over with now :o) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "......visionary and poet cursed work before trying it, and would only lift a finger to write a book. THE IDLE THOUGHTS OF A DAYDREAMER, Volumes 1 to 10. Ten in ten years. Like Felt records flowing freely from an uncluttered mind....." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Fri Jan 30 21:58:35 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:58:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: First time I have ever laughed out loud at an email... Message-ID: <199801302045.UAA08791@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Hey List > Ricky Tikki Tavi Northy wrote: > > >I ordered my poster on Monday and got it on Wednesday so the people > >at VinylTap are pretty quick. > > > >Poster is brill and hanging up as the pride of my room but it does > >come folded and not in a proper poster sender so it has crease marks > >:( > > Oh, god! That's just awful. Can we all rally round? A benefit gig, > something like that. *Here it is* The one time I have ever laughed out loud at an email message. And I am not being sarcastic! Well done Tag (hey what happened to protecting me from the nasty list members!) > Fat Scottish blokes are bastards aren't they? Should have slaughtered > the lot of them at Culloden. Yup. > With my life, if necessary Oh! There it is! Thanx man! > Fuck, I missed the Simpsons. I watch the Simpsons sometimes twice a day and I never get bored of it! I also love patronising my friends who only have "BBC2 Simpsons" by quoting endlessly from the newer (and better ones) he...he...he. Peace people! Northy Hows about a BESEEN chat on one the Belle and Sebastian page? They are great! ________________________________________________ get up turn light on take gown don gown look inside pocket take analgesic _________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Fri Jan 30 21:18:35 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 21:18:35 GMT Subject: Sinister: Fat fun Message-ID: <34d8433b.32048609@email.mcmail.com> Hello, Couple of things: Northy, if you don't like that particular Arab Strap lyric, you probably won't like 'Your sister helped us wank' or 'She was the best shag I ever had'. A sick, disgusting lyric you say. Personally, I find Arab Strap funny, and sad, and moving. But I'm a slightly rounded, half Scottish (and yes, half Stokish, cheers) bloke, so what do I know? Susannah, I couldn't give a toss about the guy from Ultrasound being got at for being fat. And your letter made me laugh. A lot. Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andreas.Hering at xxx.de Fri Jan 30 22:43:52 1998 From: Andreas.Hering at xxx.de (Perfection As A Hipster) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:43:52 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: THE SPIRTUALIZED DATING SERVICE Message-ID: <199801302243.XAA14056@studserv.stud.uni-hannover.de> Sarah wrote ... >Spiritualized are playing manchester on march the 14th.....and I really >really want to go...but can find no-one to come along! > >Are any listee people planning on going, and is there an way, if >possible, kinda-ish, sorta way I could tag along, or go with you??? Sorta way you could tag along ? I'm sure Tag won't let you down. §;^D >I'M GOING NOW!!!!!!! >Sarah Enjoy yourself, he's the most handsome bloke in Charlton. "Funny ha ha" Andreas The rain it raineth on the just And also on the unjust fella But more upon the just because The unjust steals the just's umbrella (Charles Baron Bowen) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From krivas at xxx.gov Fri Jan 30 23:39:11 1998 From: krivas at xxx.gov (Kimberly Rivas-Plata) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:39:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: raid expectations Message-ID: Now here's something pretty impressive: I've played b&s so much at work now that it gave a co-worker a belle & sebastian dream! He tells me that in his dream he was at their concert - which was being held in a strip mall of all places - and it got raided by the gestapo and everyone was rioting. Hmm...somehow I just can't imagine the music of our dear beloved invoking concert-goers to start a riot, but it WAS only a dream... And maybe this is just on my copy of Tigermilk, but does anyone else happen to hear a zipper being zipped at the beginning of "expectations"? A fellow listee said she did, but her tape is a copy of mine, so that doesn't help much. Sorry if this has been brought up before - I checked the archives first! I really did! the only zipper reference was for Squirrel Nut Zippers. If it is a zipper though, it certainly does make the song more interesting. I can just imagine the main character in the song putting on a jacket and heading out the door before being harangued by her mom. Anyone with a vinyl copy willing to verify/falsify this? Gracias- Kim -------------------------------- Yeah, I want some cheesy poofs! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Fri Jan 30 23:57:31 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 18:57:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: NB&SC:smiths In-Reply-To: <199801301938.TAA21815@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, northy wrote: > ___________________________smiths bit_____________ > > OK...so now I have bought the Queen is Dead and Louder than Bombs. > They're both great. Louder than Bombs takes a few listens but it is > brill. Who did the original "Golden Lights" then? What should I buy > next?!? Most of the other albums seem to have 6 or so tracks that I > already have on the Louder than Bombs album! > __________________________________________________________ > my vote would go for 'strangeways here we come' if not just for the song 'last night i dreamt that somebody loved me'..its one of my favourites, plus there is 'paint a vulgar picture' with the lyrics 're-issue, re-package, re-package, re=evaluate the songs....' which seems to sum up what has been happening to the smiths and morrissey himself lately..i mean how many best of's can you buy? as roberta hangs her head in shame, remebering that she has, in fact, bought all of them, doh! meat is murder is brilliant, especially 'suffer little children' but 'the smiths' can get a bit embarrassing because of all the falsettos especially if you are trying to get someone to listen to the smiths, i find it puts them off.. and twinkle is the original singer of 'golden lights'... if you want a good place to start at for morrisseys solo years i would reccommend 'vauxhall and i" hair brushed and parted, roberta ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From GntlTuesdy at xxx.com Sat Jan 31 00:08:18 1998 From: GntlTuesdy at xxx.com (GntlTuesdy at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 19:08:18 EST Subject: Sinister: a final goodbye... Message-ID: <51658083.34d26b74@aol.com> hey i made that sound all dramatic, but really this isn't going to be... Just wanted to say goodbye to everyone on the list! I don't think i really like the listserves concentrating on one band, but if there ever was a band, then B&S is it! so cheers to all of you for having such rad musical tastes and i wish the band a lifetime of lovely music making! A big thanks to Matthew from NJ for dubbing me Tigermilk. good man! and before i say goodbye, i decided i must do my part and offer the first person to email me privately a dub of TIGERMILK, now i can't promise you amazing fidelity, but who cares, right. okay you just gotta be in the USA thats all i ask... my address is: GntlTuesdy at aol.com cheers lads! love, neal conshohocken, PA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cateran at xxx.com Sat Jan 31 01:27:24 1998 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 01:27:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: (Arab Crap)..he...he...I started a discussion *neagghh* Message-ID: > >> Katrina said... >> Ummm, am i the only person who thinks Ultrasound are going to fall flat >> on their faces this year??? > >Quite possibly yes. I saw Ultrasound supporting The TIndersticks and hated their sub Yes dribblings. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From samiam2 at xxx.com Sat Jan 31 01:18:38 1998 From: samiam2 at xxx.com (Samiam) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 20:18:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: A Slight Resemblance Message-ID: <34D27BEE.4DFF@ix.netcom.com> As I was scrolling through the backlog of Sinister digests, the song 'Lucky' (the reprise version by Northern Picture Library which I just bought) came on and the Piano bit sounds eerily similar to the Trash Can Sinatras 'Unfortunate Age'. Just wanted to mention that... All this talk of Field Mice/Northern Picture Library/Trembling Blue Stars has gotten me curious about the new album. How does it compare to their older stuff? I liked the Rainbow cd single, I was hoping for more of the same, though I think you hardcore fans of this group didn't like the cd single that much. Sammy Spice Sam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Sat Jan 31 02:29:50 1998 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley wilkinson) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:29:50 +1000 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #43 Message-ID: <34D28C9E.5AFA@gil.com.au> >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 11:27:12 +0000 >From: Jeepster Recordings Ltd >Subject: Re: Sinister: My Arsenal >Jose Mª Saguillo Segovia wrote: >> Hunky Dory, THE HUMMINGBIRDS (do you like them Katrina?) >i used to love the hummingbirds, but as i was too young, i never got to >see them at home ... ho hum :( >> golden , comet gain, SUPER, EVEN AS WE SPEAK ( Katrina?) >i don't know them ... are they australian too? shelley????? ?? there is a crappy band around called even, but i've not heard of 'even as we speak' - and i usually know what the kids are listening to, so no.... i don't think so. >bye bye, >Katrina. bye bye, shelley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From initgrl at xxx.org Sat Jan 31 05:20:52 1998 From: initgrl at xxx.org (jj heldmann) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 00:20:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: re: even as we speak In-Reply-To: <34D28C9E.5AFA@gil.com.au> Message-ID: > >> golden , comet gain, SUPER, EVEN AS WE SPEAK ( Katrina?) > >i don't know them ... are they australian too? shelley????? > > ?? there is a crappy band around called even, but i've not heard of > 'even as we speak' - and i usually know what the kids are listening to, > so no.... i don't think so. I'm sure there are others who are much more knowledgeable on the subject but i'm bored and don't want to study anymore so I'll chime in...Even As We Speak are australian, but don't exist as such today. They put out several releases on Sarah, and um, I think I have a 7" on Summershine by them as well...Two of the gals in the band are now in a band called the Singing Bush who's only release that I'm aware of is on a 4 band comp 7" jointly released by DriveIn and Season Records. All very fun pop music. Those of you who know more about it than me, feel free to add/correct etc. xo jj ******************************************** fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa www.mindspring.com/~initialgirl/fantastic ******************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ada202 at xxx.edu Sat Jan 31 08:12:56 1998 From: ada202 at xxx.edu (Andrew D Adler) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 03:12:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: re: even as we speak Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980131031256.00b2ae28@is7.nyu.edu> At 12:20 AM 1/31/98 -0500, jj heldmann wrote: >I'm sure there are others who are much more knowledgeable on the subject >but i'm bored and don't want to study anymore so I'll chime in...Even As >We Speak are australian, but don't exist as such today. They put out >several releases on Sarah, and um, I think I have a 7" on Summershine by >them as well...Two of the gals in the band are now in a band called the >Singing Bush who's only release that I'm aware of is on a 4 band comp 7" >jointly released by DriveIn and Season Records. All very fun pop music. > well, maybe my first post shouldn't be so unrelated but...here's a discography: ---Even As We Speak Beautiful Day on Sarah Records - SARAH 059 (7") Jan'92 Blue Eyes Deceiving Me on Sarah Records - SARAH 079 (7"+CD5) '93 Blue Suburban Skies on Big Home Production (7") Dec'87 Feral Pop Frenzy on Sarah Records - SARAH 614 (LP+CD) 2.Feb'93 Goes So Slow on Phantom Records - PH 034 (7") Aug'89 I Won't Have To Think About You on Big Home Production (7") Jan'87 Nothing Ever Happens on Sarah Records - SARAH 037 (7") Nov'90 One Step Forward on Sarah Records - SARAH 049 (7") 6.Aug'91 Outgrown This Town on Phantom Records - PHMLP6 (12") Oct'90 Small Fish In A Big Machine on Voyeur Records - VOYEUR 1 (7") Jun'86 and in addition to the singing bush song on the drive in/season 7" they have a track on the whirl-wheels cd comp on shelflife. look to the even as we speak one step forward ep on sarah to see where the great acid house kings come from (on an aside, look out for the forthcoming acid house kings cd...pop!). and to it into the air discussion. even as we speak have a brill tune _(all you find is) air_. so there you go. all the best, andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Sat Jan 31 09:03:31 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 09:03:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ESPIONAGE!!!!! (is that how you spell it?) Message-ID: <01bd2e27$1aa27aa0$2d2b63c3@dell> Here is some scandal for you! Bethey wrote : >OK, here's a proposition. >Why don't all the girls change their middle name to Belle and all the = >boys to Sebastian. They'll be this sudden rush at the solicitor's = >offices around the world, and eventually this massive phemomenon will = >reach headline news. There'll be loads of questions: How was it = >organised? Why? And then when our epitaphs are written, people will = >say "Ah, the famous 98 B&S Sinister-listee outbreak. I took a degree in = >it. Interesting stuff." and it'll be like plague victims but much = >nicer. >Wouldn't that be fun? Bethey, you are a wicked, wicked girl. This was totally my idea and you know it(along with naming my children Belle & Sebastian). I should get the credit!! ME!! Listen to me!!! Anyway, you just pop down your local somewhere, it may be your town hall. Ask bethey - she changed her first name, but don't let her lie to you. (I'm not really this paranoid - it's a comedy routine (sort of)) bye jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From david.walker15 at xxx.net Fri Jan 30 23:44:49 1998 From: david.walker15 at xxx.net (David Walker) Date: Fri, 30 Jan 1998 23:44:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Manchester Northern Soul Type Letter References: <34C22C8E.78DF@seahouses.u-net.com> <34C24265.34E1@virgin.net> Message-ID: <34D265F1.D95@virgin.net> Hello, Just a quick non B&S enquiry.... There seems like a few people on the list from the Manchester area, so can anyone shine any light..... Has a Northern Soul night started at the Star & Garter ? Is it still on and is it any good ? Just noticed it on a poster somewhere the other day and it got me thinking..... Cheers Tintin. -- David Walker The Walker Homepage And Guide To Bolton: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/ Got A Paul Weller link ? Need A Paul Weller link ? Check.... http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/6411/links.html (Unfinished version now up and running) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk Sat Jan 31 10:08:31 1998 From: R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk (Richard Anderson) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:08:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Musings... References: Message-ID: <34D2F80B.1CD6@smtphost.dur.ac.uk> Stuart Gardiner wrote: > Someone said a couple of days ago that they thought B&S fans fell into 2 > camps, obscure indiepoppers or Manics/Suede types. I've been thinking > about this, and I reckon the vast majority of people on this list seem to > fall into just one category; that our musical tastes are eclectic. When we > find some music we like, we'll buy it and listen to it; it doesn't matter > what type of music it is. After all, that's probably how most of us got > into B&S in the first place. I totally agree. I like BRA, Marylin Mansun, Hootie &TB, and many others and don't care what anybody else thinks. > On another matter, this business of basically talking over an instumental > track isn't unique to Arab Strap by any means. Pulp have made it one of > their trademarks, and even Blur have done it (with some success) on Essex > Dogs. It may not have a name yet (any suggestions?) I've always called it speak-a-pop and it has been done by loads of people before. Theres a couple of cool examples on the Abuse Your Freinds album sampler. A b-side on the new Strangelove single is apparently patrick reading his diary (aloud :o) over a moody backing. They did this before with the excelent track "Ghost Haddock" on the Beautiful Alone single. Richard Anderson. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk Sat Jan 31 10:21:33 1998 From: R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk (Richard Anderson) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:21:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Up the Cuff Message-ID: <34D2FB2D.28C3@smtphost.dur.ac.uk> Hi, Anybody out there know what the best new band of las5t year, Cuff are up to at the moment? Anything after Yellowmaddacoolivision would be news. Did anyone else watch them on the excellent program helter skelter on Central last year at around 4am? If you haven't heard them, their lyrics are a more pessimistic B&S style and the music like Reef's would be if they had any decent melodies and a brilliant lead singer. "Just Because I'm Sleeping Doesn't Mean I'm Dreaming Of You..." Richard Anderson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alaning at xxx.fr Sat Jan 31 10:31:38 1998 From: alaning at xxx.fr (Alan.H) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:31:38 +0100 Subject: Sinister: NB&SC:smiths Message-ID: <199801311028.LAA25879@mail2.isdnet.net> > meat is murder is brilliant, especially 'suffer little children' erm, "suffer little children" is on the first album...but get MIM just to hear "that joke isn't funny anymore"... alan, mr pedantic ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Sat Jan 31 11:49:57 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:49:57 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Manic Street Belle and Sebastian? In-Reply-To: <$+GaAPAngM00EwMt@elsato97.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: > > I got talking to my French teacher at Open Evening the other day. I had > written a quote in French by Sartre on the board as examples of what > languages you learna t newman bla bla. We got to talking about Camus. I > said that I couldn't afford a copy of the Outsider, and the Library > didn't have it. So Stuart goes, Oh, I've got loads, you cn have one! I > think yipee! > > Lucky me now has a copy of L'etranger. Fully in French. > > Its bloody hard enough to read in English! > > But I'm getting through it. I neeed a better french dictionary though. i know how you feel: we started it at school in the 4th form, then abandoned it, but i kept my copy and made abortive attempts to read it in french for a couple of years or so, painfully slowly, before finally giving up and reading it in english: then, a few years later, doing the tragedy paper as an undergraduate, did a whole load of camus (plague / rebel / sisyphus). wonderful. the fall is superb as well. b&s content: nil level of general interest: pretty much the same as above cheerio, alastair > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From amh20 at xxx.uk Sat Jan 31 11:53:43 1998 From: amh20 at xxx.uk (A.M. Horne) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 11:53:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: newcomer type stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 30 Jan 1998, C Browning wrote: > i always hate first e.mails to mailing lists. you come across all naive and stupid because you > don't know the protocol and jargon. but i've never been in a mailing list as - well - > argumentative as this one! i don't mean bickering but everytime i check my e.mail i have about > five new messages - makes me look dead popular as well. and i must admit its rather fun. on the > XTC list, people tend to just dream about new recordings, on the flying nun one i get > frustrated cos i'll never be able to track down the arsing stuff but here each e.mail seems to > be genuinely interesting discussing the musical underbelly of the uk. here at loughborough > music is still in the oasis/prodigy predictable glut so its a refreshing change to have all > this discussion about bands like ultrasound and mogwai and the beloved b&s who will be shaping > the music world for years to come, when people have finally realised the vacuity of the > brothers gallagher. to me "if you're feeling sinister" had the effect on first listening that i > imagine a listener thirty odd years ago would have had first listening to someone like nick > drake. in many ways he's as influential in the world of music now as ever, name dropped all > over the place. belle and sebastian have that air of unprecious naturally polished jewel that, > just because it isn't big and obvious isn't appreciated by the masses. but neither should it > be. i admit i do tend to choose my favourite bands from their rating as undiscovered classic, > obscure type categories. but good music is good music. you may like arab strap (i found it a > little - er - wilfully amateur for amateur's sake, but i'm sure they were fully aware of that) > or the manics (too earnest for me , but hey they covered 'taking teh skin heads bowling' so we > know they have some sense of humour) or the beegees as far as i care. i'll even let some people > off for liking oasis (only just though) but whatever belle and sebastian are to me, unlike any > other band out there. i played the album once and knew i will be playing it for as long as i > have arms to press the button marked play and ears to hear it. and that surely is teh mark of > good music. > > before you all write and ask me what the hell i'm on about, i'd just like to say i'm not really > sure. but hey. let me off. i'm new. thanks for making life at loughborough a little more > interesting with your discussions at any rate. i think i'll be happy here as it were. > > i'll stop rambling now and go. > > chris browning bless.... amh > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Sat Jan 31 08:13:43 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 08:13:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: re: even as we speak and jasmine minks References: Message-ID: <34D2DD37.54598F05@lineone.net> jj heldmann wrote: > Even As > We Speak are australian, but don't exist as such today. They put out > several releases on Sarah, three singles as far as i can remember, and an LP. any more that that, Andy? the singles i have at least are 'Nothing Happens', 'One Step Forward' and 'Beautiful Day', which is my own personal favourite because, erm, the cover is a photo i took of a shopping trolley (cart) sitting on Troon beach :-) They are very excellent indeed. > them as well...Two of the gals in the band are now in a band called > the > Singing Bush who's only release that I'm aware of is on a 4 band comp > 7" > jointly released by DriveIn and Season Records. didn't realise this was even as we speakers, so shall go back and listen with renewed interest. And on the subject of blasts from the past, i just heard from Jim Shepherd of Jasmine Minks infamy, and the news is that he and Tom Reid are writing songs again. More news as and when, but hey... this has brightened up my January at least. keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Jan 31 12:15:48 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 12:15:48 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: Hehee, MEE!!!!! wrote: >Are any listee people planning on going, and is there an way, if >possible, kinda-ish, sorta way I could tag along, or go with you???=20 Sorta way you could tag along ? I'm sure Tag won't let you down. =A7;^D Oooh the humour, stitch me sides back up!!! No but seriously folks, is no-one going? Ooh poo. Looks like scary gig in manchester all by my little old self time! And will someone tell em why my messages keep coming through with shite like =20 on them al the time? Cos they are doing my tree. I never get any numbers right! Are they like censorship? Like '=46uck'????? Oh oh oh! I actually did have a B&S dream, well, involving them but with none of the group present. And would you eleive that I can' remeber what it was? Except that it had Dostoveyesky popping up somewhere. Which is strange because I went to sleep after Frasier was on 'cos I was just so tired! I HAVE A LIFE! Honestly....lie. I'll write something interesting later. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!!! Sarah "Why don't you just =89uck off!" MSP Stay beautiful peeps. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alerche at xxx.net Sat Jan 31 13:23:35 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9?= Vieira) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:23:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Musings... Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980131142335.006946a4@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> The Tall Git/ Stuart Gardiner wrote: >On another matter, this business of basically talking over an instumental >track isn't unique to Arab Strap by any means. Pulp have made it one of >their trademarks, and even Blur have done it (with some success) on Essex >Dogs. Talking over an instumental track isn't new at all - and I'm sure it goes way before the Arab Straps or Pulp. From my limited music knowledge (and please correct me if I'm wrong), the first song that used this technique was The Velvet Underground's "The Gift" (from the album "White Light/White Heat"). John Cale reads the story on one side of the recording and the band plays on the other. So if you adjust the balance of the stereo, it's possible to listen only to the story, only to the music, or to both of them at the same time. "The Gift" is, in my opinion, the best "narrative song" ever made - from the haunting first verse ("Waldo Jeffers had reached his limit") to its breath-taking end ("through the middle of the package, through the middle of the masking tape, through the card- board, through the cushioning and..."). By the way, how many of you in the list are also Velvet lovers? Andre (a Brazilian B&S and VU lover). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Runegg at xxx.com Sat Jan 31 15:41:22 1998 From: Runegg at xxx.com (Runegg at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 10:41:22 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: the usual request Message-ID: <4001a3f1.34d34624@aol.com> Hello sailors. This is another Tigermilk-less soul looking for a tape. Somebody who has it, let me know (email or here). The best I can offer in return is one of my irrelevant-to-B&S mix tapes, but I'm damn proud of them, and my sister says they're the best mix tapes she's ever heard (and she would know). okay bye Ari ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Sat Jan 31 17:18:18 1998 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:18:18 GMT Subject: Sinister: Musings... In-Reply-To: <34D2F80B.1CD6@smtphost.dur.ac.uk> Message-ID: Richard Anderson wrote: > I've always called it speak-a-pop and it has been done by loads of > people before. Theres a couple of cool examples on the Abuse Your > Freinds album sampler. A b-side on the new Strangelove single is > apparently patrick reading his diary (aloud :o) over a moody backing. > They did this before with the excelent track "Ghost Haddock" on the > Beautiful Alone single. Early examples of speak-a-pop, would have to be Richard Harris ("There are too many soldiers on my cross"), and worryingly Fish from Marillion, who was prone to go off into spoken ramblings. Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Jan 31 13:06:35 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 14:06:35 +0100 Subject: Sinister:*neagghh* Message-ID: <01bd2e49$0fae1880$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: northy Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: viernes 30 de enero de 1998 21:33 Asunto: Sinister: (Arab Crap)..he...he...I started a discussion *neagghh* The line I especially didn't like in the Arab Crap song was the "she wanked me off" I mean come on what sort of a sick, disgusting, "I just don't want to know" lyric is that. I've never ever heard Arab Strap, so I'm a bit left out here, but I think that is a really fantastic lyric. What's the next line? And what is a "I just don't want to know" lyric? Anyone out there Welsh? I think Hugh "he fisted me in the bogs" is Welsh, isn't he? Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Message-ID: <01bd2e70$cbea80c0$174905c3@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: André Vieira Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: sábado 31 de enero de 1998 15:28 Asunto: RE: Sinister: Musings... >"The Gift" is, in my opinion, the best "narrative song" ever made - from >the haunting first verse ("Waldo Jeffers had reached his limit") to its >breath-taking end ("through the middle of the package, through the middle >of the masking tape, through the card- board, through the cushioning and..."). > And then there's "My Sister" by Tinkersticks, which I think is really really good, and I imagine more of a direct influence on Belle and Sebastian's talking efforts. Which I still haven't heard. Another good one with talking on is "Cherry Blossoms" (?), which is my favourite Tinkersticks song, don't know what it's about though. >By the way, how many of you in the list are also Velvet lovers? > semi-devout Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Sat Jan 31 22:25:00 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:25:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: NB&SC:smiths In-Reply-To: <199801311028.LAA25879@mail2.isdnet.net> Message-ID: On Sat, 31 Jan 1998, Alan.H wrote: > > meat is murder is brilliant, especially 'suffer little children' > > erm, "suffer little children" is on the first album...but get MIM just to > hear "that joke isn't funny anymore"... oops..there goes my claim to be all knowing on the subject of the smiths :) its all a slip fo the mind i tell you, a slip of the mind! roberta ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sat Jan 31 22:52:54 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 17:52:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: dance magic dance Message-ID: <199801312252.RAA26042@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear Sinister peeps, Hello! I recommend a snowshow workout to anybody! When I started out I was falling behind,then one after another I was telling off things and soon I was kicking the snow through the air..it was wonderful...and my you change,befoer it was all praise Arab Strap and now it's kick him till he dies. >From: susannah >Subject: Sinister: Whats the difference between Clinton and the Titanic? Only 200 people went down on the Titanic I love Bill Clinton. >Genevieve your crown is under threat so get your madcap hat on and repeat after >me: >'I love you fishcake boy, your elbows are so like , um how do I say? pointy >pointy .' I don't understand this 'mad' reputation I have,I make sense in my posts.I am not crazy,just in love.Anyways,i like wearing flowers instead of crowns! Who is the fishcake boy? I know a Reptilian Man,he tried to touch my eyelids..and you know why? His friend told him it's a big turn-on for women.As I get my eye poked out!Ooh...sexy! Anyways..I'm with Tag,I think pervy lyrics are funny..most of the time I don't even understand them though and i get a jab in the side and a 'YOU CAN'T SAY THAT HERE!' Anyways,I was crying so much yesterday I think I was howling,I scared the cats anyways,I scared myself too! So to cheer myself up I put on The Labyrinth. "You remind me of the babe." "What babe?" "The babe with the POWER!" "What power?" "Power...VOODOO!" "Who,you?" "You do." "Do what? "Remind me of the babe!" I wonder,does David Bowie look back at this and wonder? Anyways,I love this movie..sorry no pointy fishcake boy...but that's a real gem,well maybe not to just anybody,but if you know the movie,just picture Jareth with his crop and jodpurrrs going 'The babe with the power!'to the goblin and then breaking into song!lovely lovely.... you all never answer my questions,are there any Belle & Sebby tshirts left? Well,I probably wouldnt' get one anyways,by the time you change the money into brit pounds...I think I will make my own,with sequins! dance magic dance,jump magic jump work that baby spell on me.... Genevieve xoxo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sat Jan 31 23:21:52 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 1998 18:21:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: stupid post Message-ID: <199801312321.SAA26263@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear pretty people, >Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 18:17:50 -0000 >From: ELIZABETH DAPLYN >Subject: Sinister: I need a shady lane >Hurrah! I went to see Travis last Friday at the Astoria. It was part >of the NME Br*t Shows, but let's not dwell on such unpleasantnesses. >Good grief, but the Hybirds are shite. Ultrasound were really cool, >despite lovely choruses of "You fat bastard" from Cro-Magnon Man in all >his glory, and Travis were absolootly gorgeous. I love Franny! Also: >Wierd Occurrences: An Occasional Item: I like Franny..but I love Dougie Payne..oh him of the bored face and tshirt and mustard leather jacket!And his name...Dougie...dougie dougie dougie.... > Hey! Genevieve! You're making more sense than normal! If you >carry on like this no-one will think you're as cute any longer. Get >back to loopiness right away is my recommendation. i think I make sense,and I'm not cute..I have horns a little beard and a tail. But no claws. >I've met David Bowie, dontchaknow? > >ObB&S: I know someone called Jenny, and would like a photo of her, but I >don't have one. Is that on-topic enough? > >Rod. Wow! You know I would love to meet him,but in the Labyrinth style...with his cape and the crystal ball doing the wavy hand motion thing and the 'If you turn it just so you can see into your dreams!' Actually...I don't really know much of his music...I know Velvet Goldmine....and that's about it.... >Date: Thu, 29 Jan 1998 10:05:47 -0800 (PST) >From: Nicole Elger >Subject: Sinister: happy bunny thanks >Genevieve, make sure to check your snail mail often, as I'm sure half the >guys on this list have squished themselves into boxes with air-holes and >mailed themselves off to you, and they are probably eager to get out and >stretch. (Hey, maybe that's why the list has been slow lately: too many >people trapped in boxes!) I think there should be a French-Canadian >remake of the great (but short-lived) US TV show "My So-Called Life." You >would be the perfect Angela (Claire Danes) and your record store crush boy >sounds just right for the part of gorgeous-but-aloof Jordan. Instead of >sneaking out to go to a Buffalo Tom concert, you'd be going to see B&S, >bien sur! Sadly,nobody appear in boxes...but it could be the canadian postal system...speediest around,you know... You know how the lovely that idea is! I have not seen beautiful record store boy for a long time now..it seems like a long time anyways..I was GOING to see him yesterday actaully,it was carnivale day and while everyone was playing pool I was going to slip away...but NO...Marcelle just kept driving by....he just...drove...right by... I have no news on B&S but I have news on the Stuart David lookalike! 1,his voice doens't match his face 2....He has the same guitar (brand) as me 3...his fingers just FLY over his guitar..it's so beautiful to watch,it always amazes me when people do riffs like that... And I had another dream,where we were juste lie together on this beautiful hill of knee deep grass..the grass was so green...like emeralds,you know? Then S.D got this attitude and started complaining about his guitar.....ohhh...damn... ummmm...that's about it, and if you send a letter to Belle and Sebsatian,does it actually get to them,or does some guy sitting in a truck read them and laugh? choco kisses, Genevieve xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kmcguire at xxx.com Wed Jan 21 21:56:54 1998 From: kmcguire at xxx.com (McGuire) Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 13:56:54 -0800 Subject: Sinister: trading, buying, or the selling of souls Message-ID: <001401bd26b7$7d72fb40$0b06d5cf@okcomputer.indierockfuckers.com> hey. anyone who has tapes of Tigermilk and/or the BBC sessions, I am interested in trading, buying copies from you, or selling my soul if needs be. email me if you could please. than you. -kelly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From babyblu at xxx.uk Wed Jan 7 23:30:06 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1998 23:30:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: 'Names that will live forever' References: <3552F061.6584@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Message-ID: <30F0577E.3F02@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Deep breath... Steely dan- vibrator in Clockwork orange. Moloko- means 'milk' in Clockwork orangeuse. Campaq Velocet- means ...erm something in Clockwork orangeuse. The Fall- Top Camus novel. Orlando- Virginia Woolf opus. The Bible- Little known work by John Baptist, or somebody. Heaven 17- name of a band in Clockwork orange (Hmmmm, perhaps fledgling bands should really read some OTHER books) The Velvet Underground- name of a trashy pulp novel about sado-masochism that Lou Reed found in the street. My Bloody Valentine- name of a trashy pulp novel about sado-masochism that Kevin Sheilds found, after years spent scouring bookshops and libraries in order that he too could have a band name a bit like The Velvet Underground. Millions basically...... Stay Lucky, Roryxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From babyblu at xxx.uk Thu Jan 1 11:47:37 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1998 11:47:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Blues owed her. Message-ID: <30E7C9D9.50C7@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Hello again. Just to say that this Friday (22nd) will be the last Blue Soda Social for at least a fortnight. So if you haven't come down yet this would probably be a good time. Last week saw the very lovely Isobel attacking all comers with a large stuffed lion. And you can't get much better than that can you? Stay Lovely, Roryxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Nee, nee mun pish, chan pai dee kwa ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kittridge at xxx.com Thu Jan 15 13:42:33 1998 From: kittridge at xxx.com (Matthew Broszkowski) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 1998 01:42:33 -1200 Subject: Sinister: sinister rerelease Message-ID: <34BE1249.AB4A4B09@home.com> hi, i've been noticing a lot of questions about tiger milk. I'm pretty sure no one has posted this, on the b and s website it says that tigermilk is going to be rereleased on cd late spring early summer. Check out their site for more info. matthew http://members.home.net/kittridge/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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