Sinister: Let's hear chatter

[Hopkins T]

> Look, I don't even know if what follows is worth saying. Your best bet is
> to delete it now. But i've written it now so bollocks to it. But don't say
> I didn't warn you.
> 
> Matt quoted:
> >"For many, idolizing Belle and Sebastian is an offensive move--a way to
> say
> >that traditional bands are still worthy of debate and attention, and that
> >their traditionally structured songs and sense of narrative are still
> relevant
> >at a time when these very notions are being messed with by electronic
> music."
> 
> Uhh, well I kind of agree and disagree with that, for various reasons...
> 
> 1. B&S do represent something of a return to guitar pop for me, after a
> while away...so for me they say exactly that geetar music is still worthy
> of attention (though I would prefer to say guitar music can still sound
> fucking brilliant and make me laugh and cry...)
> 
> 2. pop is (or can be) all about positioning yourself, for and against,
> what's wrong and right. But I have to say that B&S are a way to say that
> guitar music can still be beautiful and subtle and (shhh...) touching
> without succumbing too much to traditional roccknroll business bullshit
> and, in particular, laddish boor-rock.
> 
> Where I disagree is that I think B&S, if they relate to anything else
> musical at all, are all about  the world of indiepop... I think they're
> pretty much irrelevant to 'electronic music' (and, brilliant though it is,
> 'Electronic Renaissance' supports my point...). To make a statement about
> electronic music (which I take to mean the broad dance field- jungle,
> techno, hardcore, speed garage, whatever-  plus hip hop and stuff) by
> liking B&S would be pointless, says I.
> 
> Like dancing about architecture, as Thelonius once said...
> 
> tim H
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