From Yummycats at xxx.com Sun Mar 1 02:06:41 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 1998 21:06:41 EST Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian on Rolling Stone Online @ aol Message-ID: <46597e67.34f8c2b3@aol.com> All the list members who have aol should go to keyword Rollingstone and click on the B, then find Belle and Sebastian, and you can do all sorts of things. Including: Sending a trivia question, look at the discography, read articles, listen to songs, and look at photos... *except* RS doesn't seem to be finished with updating their section yet. The photos aren't there, there are no other trivia questions except the one I submitted, there's only one article (about B&S signing to Matador - which comes up with a file not found message when you try to read it) and NOBODY except me has rated the releases. That's the best part - if you go there, you will see what I mean. I gave "Tigermilk" a classic rating and the results post that 100% of people who voted gave it 5 stars. Amazing. There are three mistakes among the discography: First of all, underneath Tigermilk, it gives you the option of actually BUYING it (ha ha), and under the ep and singles section, it lists LLPJ, DOW, but no mention of 369. And they list RADCLIFF SESSION as an ep released by the BBC in 1996, which I don't quite understand. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Mar 1 10:29:33 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 11:29:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RE: Roxanne Roxanne/ Arthur Arthur Message-ID: <01bd44fc$edba5160$LocalHost@itjfvkli> The bass player from The Wurzels wrote: >Seems to me that the 'best' music from any decade is the stuff one likes the >most. Unless, of course, I don't like it, in which case it is objectively >bad. It's a fair cop. Except in this case. Because I'm not really familiar with the music in question. At the time I was convinced that tinnily recorded sixties pastiches were where it was at. And it may well have been. A defining moment in my life was when a mumbling drunkard asked me if I was the bass player with the Chesterfields. >You fat clown. Hopkins, that's like bumping into Digby the Biggest Dog in the World and calling him a "big dog". >You probably did dream it, but unfortunately your credibility is rescued by >the fact that the lovely Real Roxanne seems to fit the bill...And yes, she >did have somnething of a foul mouth as I remember, reserving her venom >particularly for Roxanne Shante. Thanks for helping to clear that one up. I'm a bit worried about my credibility though. A few more Rod Stewart quotations should put paid to it once and for all. Speaking of which, my reference to French police in a recent message heading was, of course, a tribute to Rod, not an editorial comment on Paul's guidance. Just to clear up any residual doubts I will say it as clearly as possible: I like Paul and appreciate the work he does for the list. >Ah, hip hop slanging matches. Wouldn't it be good if Belle and Sebastian got >into a recorded slanging match with some of their contemporaries? I don't know if I'm alone inn having ruined my eyes by trying to read the very small sleeve notes to the Funkadelic "Music For Your Mother" compilation, but one of the funniest bits in a very funny story is when Funkadelic try to get a bit of rivalry going by dissing other funk bands. Insults included "Earth, Wind and No Fire". Nobody took a blind bit of notice. "Bloody sod yer then!" said Fuzzy Haskins. To Mister Arthur Bergman: Welcome to the list, Big Tackle. I hope you have a steadying influence on some of the more immature list members, a bit like Howard Cunningham in "Happy Days". Your daughter is a credit to you. I look forward to hearing from you on the list Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lawrence.lek at xxx.com Sun Mar 1 13:25:24 1998 From: lawrence.lek at xxx.com (Lawrence Lek) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 13:25:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk? (newbie) Message-ID: <01bd4515$7e36eb00$83f482c1@nx31.dial.pipex.com> Hi everyone... Just wondering how I could get hold of a copy of Tigermilk... Thanks a lot Larry ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jesandy at xxx.edu Sun Mar 1 20:08:54 1998 From: jesandy at xxx.edu (Jennifer ) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 15:08:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: non b&s - tindersticks Message-ID: <01bd454d$dc31ee20$1e169f95@jimmy..> hello lovely bunnies! a non b&s question, and i do apologize. i think there are some tindersticks fans on this list, so could someone tell me... i have 'curtains' and want to buy one of their older albums. which one would you recommend? please reply privately so as to not clog up the list, thank you all and have a grand sunday! jennifer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...the passing of time and all of its sickening crimes is making me sad again... ...the passing of time leaves empty lives waiting to be filled... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rnorth at xxx.uk Sun Mar 1 21:30:23 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 21:30:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: UlTraSoUnD Message-ID: <199803012015.UAA11457@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Yay! Going to see Ultrasound tommorow! bye peace Northy (I bet I get told off for this!) ______________________________________________________ "Everyday, when I wake up, I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" Cerys Matthews - 1998 ________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Sun Mar 1 22:44:13 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 17:44:13 EST Subject: Sinister: UlTraSoUnD Message-ID: In a message dated 3/1/98 8:20:16PM, Northy wrote: << Yay! Going to see Ultrasound tommorow! >> Hippy! Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Mar 1 22:40:22 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 1998 22:40:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: yeah? what? Message-ID: Lizzie mentioned Road Dahll well, may i just point out that this guy is NOT As INNOCNET AS WE ALL BELIEVE! in the Oxfam shop in Preston, theres 2 copies of a book called 'Switch Bitch' by ROAD DAHL! and you can guess as to their content can't you!!! Oxfam too....dearie me...then again i didbuy a TOM JONES! boigrapghy there. TOM JONES IS pLAYING IN BLACKPOOOL! WOOOOOOO! doh. and as for the picnic, i will have to know the dte b4 i know if i can go or not cos it must be during me college hols and i mist not be dead or anything....doh i dunno oh just duhg[iaotnro]ugn]! can we have them dinky little sausage rooll thingies? and the Thingies which are crisps of course, mmmm, i loooove thingies....mmm. and beef space raieders even tho the shopdon't do them anymore. ooh dear i can hear my parents and tey are drunk. *sigh* at least i get drunk in silence when in my house....tut tut.... Northys poem, funny as it was, was very very silly. well, he will be 1st up against the wall come the revolutions DIE SCUM DiE! sorry my parent are telling me to get off the pooter even though i haven't been able to typre all weekend AND ITS A SUNDAY!!!! AAAAAAAH! doh i am very sorry. i shouldn't post this ut i will just fr the fuck of it and i think i must say that - all th people on Sinister are the NICEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD!!!!!!!! i love you all even though i dont' really know any of you but who cares - whats love anyway? (i dunno, but if you visited my websote and signed me guestbook that'd be an ace way 'o' showin' it :)) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! Life is a sexually transmitted disease with 100 percent mortality rate. any questions? Yes, whats a bollard??? ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From steve at xxx.uk Sun Mar 1 23:09:17 1998 From: steve at xxx.uk (steve genge) Date: 1 Mar 1998 23:09:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hopkirk & Lee Message-ID: <68DC7937.MD-0.196.steve@seahorses.demon.co.uk> Well seeing as we're all holding our breath for new Belle & Sebastian material I thought I'd suggest an alternative before we all go a funny shade of blue. This being the very wonderful Beneath The Apple Tree EP by Hopkirk & Lee. This was actually sold into us at work as being "the new Belle & Sebastian" which if nothing else shows the level of fame B&S have now achieved? Only problem is you start thinking ahhhh Belle & Sebastian lite, ideal when the real thing aren't around. In the same way as Dylan Moran is Eddie Izzard lite but I digress. But no my fears were unfounded the four songs here, simple understated arrangements & lush production show they've been listening to the likes of Love, Buffalo Springfield even a touch of Pale Fountains & added that yearning introspection they obviously bottle north of Carlisle (and you thought it was Irn Bru) Songs to make you tingle like someone's whispering "I love you" in your ear, or maybe I just need the loo? Anyways, the CD is on Gallery records, comes in a crappy sleeve & might make your waiting a teeny bit more bearable. Anyone with more info on this mysterious duo would be greatly appreciated. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Sun Mar 1 01:29:04 1998 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 01 Mar 1998 01:29:04 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <0.629238984@andyclin.exnet.com> Nick Dastoor wrote: "(I was there on Friday night in Manchester)" You were there 24 hours before the rest of us, then! Cheers, Rocker, rocker at andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sadeff at xxx.net Mon Mar 2 02:03:54 1998 From: sadeff at xxx.net (iOLO-sKA/Steven Adeff) Date: Sun, 01 Mar 1998 18:03:54 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Hello! (new to list) Message-ID: <199803020204.CAA38962@out4.ibm.net> hello all, just like to say I'm new to the list and look forward to conversing with all of you! Steven Adeff SADEFF at IBM.NET http://merlin.kmsi.org/~iolo/ UIN:2717181 Boy, n.: A noise with dirt on it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Mon Mar 2 06:33:50 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 98 06:33:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: doctor doctor I think i'm in belle and sebastian. Message-ID: <980302063350.n0009396.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Dear tortured , sensitive Sinisterines I so look forward to the Monday poem, its the highlight of my dull week, and last week Tag's horoscope came as such a surprise I wet myself with glee. In view of these regular features I propose to instigate a Sinister problem page. Initially i thought of asking that upright pillar of society Mister Murdoch to become an agony uncle, as I'm sure he would be able to give me some adult guidance and steer me from behind. The problem I wanted to put to him was a simple one but it troubled me nonetheless: Dear Stu, I am experiencing a difficulty with my castanets and I have heard you are now a flamenco expert so maybe you can help? The problem is, I only have one and it won't clack. Can I clack it against yours? Yours hopefully, Susannah. However on second thoughts I conceded that he would probably think it a piss-take so have nobly taken the burden of responsibility upon mysellf and will be running a weekly agony slot. Please mail me with your problems, the more intimate and medical the better, and I will endeavor to provide an appropriate answer in my weekly column. Anything really personal I will of course treat in the strictest confidence, although I'll mail them immediately to Tag so he can have a laugh too. Susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrewnic at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 10:38:58 1998 From: Andrewnic at xxx.com (Andrewnic) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 05:38:58 EST Subject: Sinister: Where D'you Go? Message-ID: <339d1400.34fa8c44@aol.com> The following tale contains a slight B&S reference, but is mostly self- indulgent toss. The Andrew - Kim Challenge Cup. Quarter Final. First Leg. Of late, I've been getting on famously with a pretty young lass who is an undergrad working part-time in our A/V department. We've been out a few times with other people from the office, but we went out together for the first time on Saturday. After pubbin' and clubbin' her (as in dancing in a dark room, not going neanderthal-style with a blunt instrument - although that was Plan B) I decided to treat her to a keeebab from Edinburgh's premiere keeebab retailer (Who says I'm not a laydeez man? 1 - nil). We were walking along Melville Drive (well staggering more than walking. With a bit of lurching, too) when it started snowing. The Meadows were already coated with a light dusting of powder snow. We had just reached the first walkway. Then it happened. Peering through the night sky, full of large flakes of snow, I saw it. A fox! In the snow! Through my drunken haze, I decided a few appropriate words would be in order. "A fox... In... IN THE BLARDY SNOW!", I cried (in my best Michael Caine voice. 2 - nil. Not everybody gets my Michael Caine on a first date). This innocent statement had two Surprising Effects. 1. My Laydee Friend. Eyes wide. Mouth Open. Full of 'bab. (2 - 1. Amazing) 2. The Fox. First, there was fear. Similar facial expression to laydee friend. As if it had just heard the hunting horn echoing across the hills. The hoofbeat of the cantering horses. The barks and howls of the nearing pack of hounds. Then, there was something else, something unexpected. Speed. And lot's of it. The fox turned and pegged it faster than I have ever seen a creature move before. What followed was exactly like a scene out of Disney's loveable animated feature "The Fox and the Hound". Except entirely different. And with the word "Fuck" in it. The furry orange fiend flew across the walkway, right in front of a girl on her bicycle. (This is where the rude word comes in, so avert your eyes if you are easily offended). "WHAT THE FUCK!!!", the girl exclaimed, whilst applying the brakes. This had an entirely unsurprising effect. The bike turned, leaned and continued it's journey on it's side. Without the girl. Meanwhile, the fox was half way to George Square. The commotion had by this time attracted the attention of a patrolling police car. As I was helping the poor girl (who was uninjured, but shaken. No, not shaken... what's the word? Angry. Yep. Angry.) to her feet, we were joined by PC Lester and WPC Minto. We were then subjected to a harsh interrogation. Okay, not an interrogation. A conversation. But it was harsh. Well, the weather was harsh. WPC MINTO: What happened? ANDREW (Our hero): A fox. WPC MINTO: A fox? ANDREW: A fox... happened. A blardy fox. KIM (Laydee friend): It ran out. In front of the bike. Dead fast. WPC MINTO: Where did it come from? ANDREW: Dunno. Something must've startled it. KIM: Like a car. Or something. (2 All. Nice penalty save) PC LESTER: Did you see it? ANDREW: What? PC LESTER: The fox running across the road? ANDREW: Dunno. I was eating me 'bab. Want some? Anyway, to cut a long story too long, we were cleared of any involvement in the incident. But the fox is wanted in five countries on two continents. For standing on clear mints. As for me, all went well (as if you care). Was a complete gentleman - walked her home. Got a snog in the stairwell (a double entendre in there, surely). We went to the cinema on Sunday. Result: Panel decision. Away win. Looking forward to the return leg. It may be against our better judgement, but we're going to the zoo. Andrew (with thanks to Kim for filling in the blanks) PS. Sorry 'bout the football references. Tried curling, but couldn't get away from the "In the house"/MC Hammer/Baggy trouser with huge crotch area references. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrewnic at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 10:38:37 1998 From: Andrewnic at xxx.com (Andrewnic) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 05:38:37 EST Subject: Sinister: Fox In The Snow Message-ID: Mani on Never Mind the Buzzcocks? What Next?!? John Squire on Countdown? Ian Brown on Gladiators? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrewnic at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 10:38:59 1998 From: Andrewnic at xxx.com (Andrewnic) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 05:38:59 EST Subject: Sinister: QUIZ! Message-ID: <53a9a500.34fa8c45@aol.com> For all you religion fans out there! An ecumenical matter. Now that Dermott "Jovial Irish Religion-depricating comedian, fine comic actor in Channel Four's hilarious award-winning religious comedy series Father Ted, and one trick pony" Morgan is dead, will he go to heaven? Andy "Ghandi" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Mar 2 11:48:40 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 11:48:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Seeing Other People. Message-ID: <01BD45D1.25DF1420@pc07628> Greetings all. God. What a joy to be back. What a wonderful weeks leave. Been here 2 and a half hours and done nowt but catch up on my e-mails. >John Wigham wrote : >Anyone in the Newcastle area fancy going into Marks and Spencers and >turning some tables round, and seeing if they seem to mind or not? I was in M&S in Exeter on thursday pm. Have you noticed that there is always more men than women in the lingerie sec......oh gord what have I done, my wife's gonna kill me !!! >Various wrote : >> I shall make some of my mother's celebrated Anzac cookies for the day. >> And bring my frisbee. > >I shall bring chocolate Rice Crispie thingies and lots of sweets of the >acidic and delicious variety. B&S picnic menu! Let's go! I'll bring the Cough Candy Twist and Ginger Beer, then next time we all visit our respective dentists, we should all get pissed and bifta'd right up beforehand, and when the receptionist says, "Your name ?", we all reply..."shhhsssssblahshhha...Shhhhane McGowan". maybe not then. >Stuart Gargantuam Gardiner wrote : >Didn't we all... I reckon you can judge someone's age by which Blue Peter >presenter you fancied as a kid. Sarah Greene? Janet Ellis? Karen Keating? >But there is a far more important question to be answered; Betty or Wilma? You shit !!! Make it blatantly obvious that some of us are clearly so much bloody older than the majority. Well, It was always Peter Pervert that did it for me !! And Percy Thrower always sent me over all funny. Oh, and on the basis I pulled a red-head on Saturday (not the best cure for insomnia), it's got to be Wilma. Humdrumbumbalum. -- Adrian. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 12:41:40 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 12:41:40 GMT Subject: Sinister: doctor doctor I think i'm in belle and Sebastian Message-ID: <34fba8e5.964637@email.mcmail.com> Susannah wrote: >However on second thoughts I conceded that he would probably think it a >piss-take so have nobly taken the burden of responsibility upon mysellf and will >be running a weekly agony slot. Please mail me with your problems, the more >intimate and medical the better, and I will endeavor to provide an appropriate >answer in my weekly column. Anything really personal I will of course treat in >the strictest confidence, although I'll mail them immediately to Tag so he can >have a laugh too. Susannah, can I just say what a pleasure it was to you see your slot first thing this morning? And I look forward to seeing any other titbits you may care to show me in the future. Love, Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 12:17:43 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 12:17:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: picnic sites Message-ID: <34FAA367.46A6@seahouses.u-net.com> this one goes out to the Chorlton Posse... i nominate Chorlton Green for the northwest picnic site. and if there is anyone in the northeast area...northumberland in particular i nominate that little cricket green that lies between the north sea and bamburgh castle. how does that sound? okay. for this picnic i shall be bringing my special trifle with that thin layer of water between the custard and the jelly (jell-o for all my fellow americans) and another thin layer of water between the custard and the whipped cream. ah well...life is grand even though my boyfriend has gone away and left me all alone in thie big (ha) flat for three days with nothing but £10 in assorted change and a large selection of cd's that i shall try and have a voyage through. this is the most i have posted in ages. *i love you all* Rachel. xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Mon Mar 2 13:42:05 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 08:42:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: nb&sc....tommy baby In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Mar 1998, Sarah wrote: > TOM JONES IS pLAYING IN BLACKPOOOL! WOOOOOOO! > heehee..i am trying to talk a friend into coming down from canada to florida to go see tom jones with me..she's actually considering it but thinks that las vegas would be the place to see him.... roberta ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Mon Mar 2 13:55:50 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetry place2) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:55:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Monday Poem(s) Message-ID: <199803021353.NAA05043@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Huzzah! After a lovely weekend spent legging around Hammersmith after Dreamy Kitchen in a vain attempt to give him the bumps and wandering along the Thames with Tag and Susannah, Monday mornings are almost bearable... On the subject of the Tormentor, I think that her idea for an agony column is a winner. As are Mystic Tag's horoscopes. I think we should have more regular features on the list... How about a weekly recipe for the epicurean amongst us? We could start off with Pasties de la Bourgeoisie*, Bars (or Biscuits) of Track and Field, 3,6,9 portions of cake.... and so on. Who'll give it a go? This week there are *two* poems for your delight. I had chosen a poem by Selima Hill, but then the lovely Anne of Glasgow pointed me in the direction of Glen Ashley Johnson, and I just couldn't decide between them... (* copyright susannah) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Selima Hill is one of the funniest and strangest poets writing in Britain today. She has several excellent volumes available from those charming people at Bloodaxe Books. The poem I've chosen is from her last collection, Violet, which was nominated for pretty much every prize last year... Selima Hill Please Can I Have a Man Please can I have a man who wears corduroy. Please can I have a man who knows the names of 100 different roses; who doesn't mind my absent-minded rabbits wandering in and out as if they own the place, who makes me creamy curries from fresh lemon-grass, who walks like Belmondo in A Bout de Souffle; who sticks all my carefully-selected postcards - sent from exotic cities he doesn't expect to come with me to, but would if I asked, which I will do - with nobody else's, up on his bedroom wall, starting with Ivy, the Famous Diving Pig, whose picture, in action, I bought ten copies of; who talks like Belmondo too, with lips as smooth and tightly-packed as chocolate-coated (melting chocolate) peony buds; who knows that piling himself stubbornly on top of me like a duvet stuffed with library books and shopping bags is all too easy: please can I have a man who is not prepared to do that. Who is not prepared to say I'm 'pretty' either. Who, when I come trotting in from the bathroom like a squealing freshly-scrubbed piglet that likes nothing better than a binge of being affectionate and undisciplined and uncomplicated, opens his arms like a trough for me to dive into. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Glen Ashley Johnson has, as far as I know published one book, Angel Kagoule (Carphology Collective). It includes a poem about the erstwhile Go-Between Robert Vickers and several cool stories about growing up absurd.... Glen Ashley Johnson pour moi? I steal a foot mirror from a shoe shop in the city when the assistant has gone in the backroom for some eights. I place the mirror beside the shoerack to the left of the back door. The cat walks in and squeals excitedly, "pour moi?" "no... pour moi," I point to the centre of my fine chest. The cat, understandably sulks for a few days, doesn't get excited at dinnertime, won't leave the windowsills on sunny afternoons, pisses upstairs - stuff like that... One day I come home early and find the cat with one of my boots on his head admiring himself in the mirror. He hangs his head and I pity him. "It's okay," I say " go ahead... it's not as if I bought it or anything..." Within a week he is rich, having sold the entire contents of my shoerack to the neighbourhood's many balding toms. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Stephen xxxxxx the poetry society website: http://www.poetrysoc.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PopGob at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 13:59:33 1998 From: PopGob at xxx.com (PopGob) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 13:59:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: PopGob ... issue one now online Message-ID: .oPYo. .oPYo. .oPYo. | PopGob 8 8 8 8 8 8 | the internet's leading pop gossip magazine 8 8 8 8 8 8 | 8YooP' `YooP' 8YooP' | now online at ... 8 ....::.....:8 ....: | http://www.begbie.com/popgob/ 8 ::::::::::::8 _::_:|_ | ..::::::::::::.(_|(_)|_) | more facts thank you can shake a stick at _| | -------------------------+-------------------------------------------- spouting forth from the gob this month ... news from the gob ----------------- elton john to become listed pop-star ... blur rock cock shock ... taylor hanson in foul mouthed tirade sensation ... european union rule: more straight pop ... and much, much more ... celebrity gob ------------- philippa forrester off of tv's "tomorrow's world" reviews the latest singles competition time ---------------- win big, big prizes with our super radiohead and spice girls quiz. with guest quizmaster, 'benny' out of "crossroads". that address again... http://www.begbie.com/popgob === Additional warning for Sinisteries... if you don't think I'm funny, you won't enjoy this site. Just so you know. [rod] ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jparker at xxx.uk Mon Mar 2 14:13:21 1998 From: jparker at xxx.uk (Jon Parker) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 14:13:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Century of Fakers/Elvis booklet Message-ID: <34FABE78.C0CC66C7@nep.co.uk> Hiya fellas I guess this is almost an ad. but seeing as how it's something for nothing and Belle & Sebastian related, i shouldn't feel too guilty... My pal Horacio (a swarthy young fellow with a fondness for blue velour, who some of you may have met at the Manchester gigs...) has produced a booklet based on "A century of fakers/elvis" as part of a typography project at the Royal College, and he's given me a batch of these tiny and beautiful things to pass on to anyone who'd appreciate them... I've only got around twenty left, e-mail me privately if you'd like one. (in the case of a photo finish, priority will be given to any message containing the words 'cats' 'Port Vale' and 'Carson McCullers' cheers... Paradiso ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jrbia at xxx.br Mon Mar 2 15:31:36 1998 From: jrbia at xxx.br (Junior/Fabiana) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 12:31:36 -0300 Subject: Sinister: doctor doctor I think i'm in belle and sebastian. Message-ID: <199803021627.QAA06390@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Such a great coincidence that you started with this topic...I'm also having some castanets disturbance. I have a pair of them, but I simply just can't play the introduction of Ronettes' "Be My Baby", and that makes me reeeeeeal sad... :o( Fabiana P.S.: You don't have to clack one castanet against other, they're self-sufficient! > Dear Stu, I am experiencing a difficulty with my castanets and I have > heard you are now a flamenco expert so maybe you can help? > The problem is, I only have one and it won't clack. > Can I clack it against yours? > Yours hopefully, Susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From thaiant at xxx.gov Mon Mar 2 16:47:02 1998 From: thaiant at xxx.gov (Thaian N Ton ) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 11:47:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: amazing nonsense Message-ID: <34FAE27E.706547DD@pop.nci.nih.gov> well beautiful listees; it's finally happened, i've finally had my first b&s (wet) dream. no, no, not really. so i won't ramble, i'll just put it short & sweet: since i have been going to graduate school interviews , i've been fed exceptionally well, and i dreamt that due to the lovely cakes and lovely food i've been scoffing down, my waist was lost and grew larger than my hips and i was walking about with big saddle bags on the sides of my hips. then i checked my e-mail in my distressed state and found this e-mail from a dj friend in montreal, and it was a list of the top 10 singles in germany. ooh ooh and get this, b&s was #1 and #4, with singles i'd never heard of before. one, i distinctly remember called "he's so heavy" ... ah well, any psychoanalysis on that one? joyfully i leave you ... with one short poem to pass the lovely lovely dc day! -thaian (stinky monchichi) xxx ************************ Hold Fast to Dreams Hold fast to dreams for if dreams die life is a broken-winged bird that cannot fly. Hold fast to dreams for when dreams go life is a barren field frozen with snow Langston Hughes ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Mar 2 17:03:03 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:03:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: GobStop Message-ID: <01bd45fd$0fd10180$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Additional warning for Sinisteries... if you don't think I'm funny, you >won't enjoy this site. Just so you know. [rod] I dunno Rod, plenty of us had hours of fun on your website the other night. Your amazing "Love Calculator" being a particular highlight. Did you really shell out the cash for that domain name too. Wouldn't the money have been better spent on Who records. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M9523138 at xxx.UK Mon Mar 2 16:09:29 1998 From: M9523138 at xxx.UK (Eimeir Tereasa McCartan) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:09:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sexy librarians Message-ID: A PREDICTION- if b+s ever really REALLY become popular the main question every hack journalist on the planet will be asking is not about the musical content but whether Stuart Murdoch is a "queer",Im old enough to remember this happening to MORRISSEY and it really gets quite tedious.I can just see the lyrics of "seeing other people" being dissected by some odious NME journalist.........does anyone agree...........by the way if anybody is into Ian Banks,Ian mc Ewan,Joseph o connor,KURT COBAIN, BILL HICKS etc ...............DAMN WELL EEEEEEE MAIL ME CORMAC RAFFERTY(not eimeir) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pasty at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 01:52:30 1998 From: pasty at xxx.com (JOSEPH FOSTER) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 17:52:30 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Bob. Message-ID: <34FB625E.26EB@geocities.com> Alexi sayles warm up man was 'Bobby Chariot'. The most famous person alive could be the pope, I supose. Bye! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrewn at xxx.edu Mon Mar 2 18:27:28 1998 From: andrewn at xxx.edu (Andrew Hung Nguyen) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 10:27:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: NB&SC: Future Bible Hereos Message-ID: Hey all, I know a good portion of the list likes the Magnetic Fields so you can probably help me. I just bought the Future Bible Hereos CD and I have only listened to it once and I really like it. I really enjoy the female vocals yet I have not got into the male vocals. I was wondering if all the Magnetic Fields music sound like the male vocals? And does his voice grow on you over time? Thanks, Andrew N. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From LeslieH at xxx.COM Mon Mar 2 19:20:56 1998 From: LeslieH at xxx.COM (Lesley Higgins) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:20:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sexy librarians Message-ID: <01F2E5A1F9BBD01186420000C0DBCFDB0E9AFD@NTMIS> I'm American I wouldn't know who Bill Hicks is ;.) and I thought the indifference B+S showed towards the NME in that last article/interview was the best. Lesley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Mon Mar 2 20:56:25 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:56:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: sexy librarians In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Another Prediction: If B&S were to really, really, really make it big, their music would, no doubt, be converted into elevator and bookstore instrumental music after ten to fifteen years. Lotsa horns and unrecognizable instruments. Kids would hum B&S songs without ever knowing the words. Then, one day, they'd come across a real B&S album at a record shop, take it home, and share it with their friends. Another generation singing B&S, with or without words, and the world will be a lovely place. -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Buick1967 at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 21:03:58 1998 From: Buick1967 at xxx.com (Buick1967) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:03:58 EST Subject: Sinister: Roald Dahl [non-B&S] Message-ID: In a message dated 98-03-01 18:06:57 EST, you write: << Lizzie mentioned Road Dahll well, may i just point out that this guy is NOT As INNOCNET AS WE ALL BELIEVE! in the Oxfam shop in Preston, theres 2 copies of a book called 'Switch Bitch' by ROAD DAHL! and you can guess as to their content can't you!!! Oxfam too....dearie me...then again i didbuy a TOM JONES! boigrapghy there. >> Roald Dahl is a fantastic writer and despite the sometimes macabre, frequently shocking, but always entertaining nature of his stories, he is not as misanthropic as many would have us believe. I recommend "Switch Bitch" and "Ah, Sweet Mystery of Life : The Country Stories of Roald Dahl" highly. Okay, he is quite the purveyer of the perverse (see: "My Uncle Oswald" about a post- Victorian self-styled sperm broker intent on preserving the ....um.... specimens of all the great minds of his day.) but there are few writers with the imagination to elevate the 'weird' to 'art' as he does. ~harry manning ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Buick1967 at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 21:19:28 1998 From: Buick1967 at xxx.com (Buick1967) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:19:28 EST Subject: Sinister: More on Roald Dahl [non-B&S] Message-ID: <57425d26.34fb2262@aol.com> Ha! After writing that bit on Roald Dahl's adult novels I decided to do more investigating of his works intended for children. On Amazon's page for WILLY WONKA there is this very amusing review from a traumatized reader: >I hate this book SOOOO much. I was seven when I read it for the first time. It scarred me to irrevocable fear and forced its malicious, acrid depiction of the murder of four innocent children down my vulnerable throat. Many have argued with me and have said that the children didn't die. However, I argue intensely. First of all, Willy Wonka is a liar and anything that expels from his horrid monstrous mouth can be regarded only for the sake of malevolence and remain at that. Second of all, even if they didn't die, they most certainly lost their sanity - for who would not if one was nearly drowned and sucked up a pipe only to be despensed in a boiler, turned into a blueberry only to be mocked and rolled by evil little creatures, forced to fall down an opening into a garbage disposal to be burned in a nightmarish furnace, or shrunken beyond recognition by harmful rays of light? This book has caused horrible nightmares to haunt me and every movement I make for the past nine years. I have not even tasted a blueberry or anything blue colored since for fear I will suffer the same fate as the characters. I hate this book and movie with all the hatred I could possibly hate anything with. << Ha! Although I like this book & movie very much, I've always seen Mr. Wonka as the embodiment of the worst sort of evil. I do wonder if it is influences such as these that caused many of my malevolent urges, or if Mr. Dahl was merely trying to provide comfort to the awful beast that resides within many children, saying through Willy Wonka: "you are not alone." Hmm. Once again, does art create sociopaths or does the sociopath create art? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Buick1967 at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 21:36:09 1998 From: Buick1967 at xxx.com (Buick1967) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:36:09 EST Subject: Sinister: 13th Note Cafe covers please Message-ID: <212dfaae.34fb264c@aol.com> This is no doubt old news around here, but having only recently subscribed to Sinister I missed any posts about the appearance of Belle & Sebastian members at an AIDS benefit on December 2nd at the 13th Note Cafe with the magnificent Pastels. My question is: what were the covers performed during this set? Thanks in advance, Harry Manning. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lawrence.lek at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 21:38:49 1998 From: lawrence.lek at xxx.com (Lawrence Lek) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 21:38:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Even More on Roald Dahl [non-B&S] In-Reply-To: <57425d26.34fb2262@aol.com> Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980302213849.0068f238@pop.dial.pipex.com> OK so he might have been a _tiny_ bit twisted sometimes, but honestly, when you've eight years old, you expect the annoying little children in the books to die a horrible death. At least you hope they die a miserable death. And some of the kids in Willy Wonkas should have died (which they did). Kids don't like bad endings, of course. I've got to say that I completely *LOVED* his books (well childrens ones at least)... didn't everyone??? Larry At 16:19 02/03/98 EST, you wrote: >Ha! After writing that bit on Roald Dahl's adult novels I decided to do more >investigating of his works intended for children. On Amazon's page for WILLY >WONKA there is this very amusing review from a traumatized reader: > >>I hate this book SOOOO much. I was seven when I read it for the first time. >It scarred me to irrevocable fear and forced its malicious, acrid depiction of >the murder of four innocent children down my vulnerable throat. Many have >argued with me and have said that the children didn't die. However, I argue >intensely. First of all, Willy Wonka is a liar and anything that expels from >his horrid monstrous mouth can be regarded only for the sake of malevolence >and remain at that. Second of all, even if they didn't die, they most >certainly lost their sanity - for who would not if one was nearly drowned and >sucked up a pipe only to be despensed in a boiler, turned into a blueberry >only to be mocked and rolled by evil little creatures, forced to fall down an >opening into a garbage disposal to be burned in a nightmarish furnace, or >shrunken beyond recognition by harmful rays of light? This book has caused >horrible nightmares to haunt me and every movement I make for the past nine >years. I have not even tasted a blueberry or anything blue colored since for >fear I will suffer the same fate as the characters. I hate this book and movie >with all the hatred I could possibly hate anything with. << > >Ha! Although I like this book & movie very much, I've always seen Mr. Wonka as >the embodiment of the worst sort of evil. I do wonder if it is influences such >as these that caused many of my malevolent urges, or if Mr. Dahl was merely >trying to provide comfort to the awful beast that resides within many >children, saying through Willy Wonka: "you are not alone." Hmm. Once again, >does art create sociopaths or does the sociopath create art? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Buick1967 at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 21:42:48 1998 From: Buick1967 at xxx.com (Buick1967) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:42:48 EST Subject: Sinister: NB&SC: Future Bible Hereos Message-ID: <16752370.34fb27da@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-02 16:31:53 EST, you write: << I know a good portion of the list likes the Magnetic Fields so you can probably help me. I just bought the Future Bible Hereos CD and I have only listened to it once and I really like it. I really enjoy the female vocals yet I have not got into the male vocals. I was wondering if all the Magnetic Fields music sound like the male vocals? And does his voice grow on you over time? >> I liked Stephen's voice immediately, so I'm uncertain as to whether or not it would grow on a person... I would say probably. I think his singing on "Get Lost" and "Charm of the Highway Strip" is fantastic. If you like the music, but find his voice intolerable, I suggest listening to the first two records (compiled on one CD) called The Wayward Bus/Distant Plastic Trees. Susan Anway sings beautifully on every song on these and I personally think its the greatest of Stephen Merritt's impressive catalog of recordings (probably because I like the unblemished new-ness of Merritt's style). But really, its all good. ~Harry "sorry for posting four times already today" Manning ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 21:49:07 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 16:49:07 EST Subject: Sinister: NB&SC: Future Bible Hereos Message-ID: <9ad38b33.34fb2955@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-02 16:31:59 EST, andrewn at ea.oac.uci.edu writes: << I know a good portion of the list likes the Magnetic Fields so you can probably help me. I just bought the Future Bible Hereos CD and I have only listened to it once and I really like it. I really enjoy the female vocals yet I have not got into the male vocals. I was wondering if all the Magnetic Fields music sound like the male vocals? And does his voice grow on you over time? >> Most of the Magnetic Fields' music does sound like the Future Bible Heroes, BUT the *music* of the FBH's is done by someone else. Stephin wrote the lyrics and sings on half the record, the music is by Christopher Ewen (which explains the more electronic sound). Stephin is the vocalist on the rest of the Magnetic Fields and Gothic Archies cd's EXCEPT The Wayward Bus and Distant Plastic Trees (a woman sings, named Susan Anway). On the 6th's "Wasp Nest" Stephin does music and sings only one song, the other vocals are done by other people. Personally, I love Stephin's voice. It's interesting that when they started the band, he didn't intend to be the one singing, but when Susan left... (Incedentally, Claudia Gonson, the female vocalist in FBH's, is also in the MF's and plays cello.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 22:09:32 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 17:09:32 EST Subject: Sinister: sexy librarians Message-ID: In a message dated 98-03-02 16:56:25 EST, LeslieH at WILWEL.COM writes: << I'm American I wouldn't know who Bill Hicks is ;.) and I thought the indifference B+S showed towards the NME in that last article/interview was the best. Lesley >> Bill Hicks was this incredibly funny comedian from America who died in the early 9tees. Look for the 4-cd reissue series that came out on RykoDisc last year. He was a great social critic of the Reagan-era. He also has a routine that makes fun of Debbie Gibson and Tiffany in such a crude and cutting way I imagine it'd still bring tears to their eyes if they were ever to hear. Radiohead dedicated The Bends to Bill Hicks. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 22:45:16 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 14:45:16 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Even More on Roald Dahl [non-B&S] Message-ID: >OK so he might have been a _tiny_ bit twisted sometimes, but honestly, when >you've eight years old, you expect the annoying little children in the >books to die a horrible death. At least you hope they die a miserable >death. And some of the kids in Willy Wonkas should have died (which they >did). Kids don't like bad endings, of course. I've got to say that I >completely *LOVED* his books (well childrens ones at least)... didn't >everyone??? > >Larry Oh but they didn't die at the end, Wonka said...remember? Sad tho..they all should have really. Sept for Charlie who looks EXACTALLY like Stephen Pastel....Ever notice? I did grow up with a horrid fear of Oompa Loompas tho....I even had an ex who use to sing that song, to see me scream and run in horror. Horrible little verman ...those orange bastards. A close friend of mine worked as Lucy Dahl's (Roald's daughter who's still doing his stuff for him cause he's dead.) assistant and said she's the bomb....And really, who *hasn't* licked wallpaper once or twice...JUST to see.......Willy Wonka was on BBC something this past Xmas and I actually watched it with someone who is 35 and had *never* seen it before! It lost something, as it was in black & white...but after it was over I asked "so!? whad you think?" and he said ...."a bit far fetched really." Sheesh..some people....... Forever blowing bubbles (nothing to do with footie songs.) and licking wallpaper..... (sort of like licking railings? Dunno...Dunno.......) beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mick at xxx.com Mon Mar 2 23:20:07 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 18:20:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: NB&SC: Future Bible Hereos References: <9ad38b33.34fb2955@aol.com> Message-ID: <34FB3EA7.ECC349A2@indiepop.com> Yummycats wrote: > Personally, I love Stephin's voice. It's interesting that when they started > the band, he didn't intend to be the one singing, but when Susan left... > (Incedentally, Claudia Gonson, the female vocalist in FBH's, is also in the > MF's and plays cello.) Yeah, Stephin is my fave vocalist too out of his various projects too. However, just as a correction, I must point out that I don't believe Claudia plays cello. Live, there was a guy playing cello, and Claudia was happily playing drums. She did sing a bit too, I think, live. She also played with Honeybunch when I saw them last year, although I think that was only a temporary thing. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aes at xxx.net Mon Mar 2 23:34:17 1998 From: aes at xxx.net (Andrew Summers) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 18:34:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: NB&SC: Future Bible Hereos Message-ID: <199803022334.PAA28810@mailtod-142.iap.bryant.webtv.net> andrew n. saw magnetic fields play on saturday. it was beautiful. suggestions if you like future bible heroes: the 6th's (another s.m. project, great songs.) any magnetic fields gothic archies the male voice (steve's) do grow on you. i suggest getting the 6th cd. all the vocals are guests. portastatic, air miami, sunshower. the nice thing about the show sat. is that there were no synths & they did some songs from the 6th's. future bible heros are playing in boston soon. can you make it? andy(3) my art/home page is just a click away: http://www.angelfire.com/fl/aeshome/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Mar 2 23:45:45 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:45:45 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Murdoch On Felt Message-ID: Stuart Murdoch is interviewing Lawrence from Felt in a few weeks and has asked me to direct any of you who might have Lawrencesque questions re. Felt to send him an email. The band are as ever at belleandsebastian at classic.msn.com Questions about what kind of a pizza Lawrence would be if he had to be one will, I suspect, not get past the starting post. On the subject, it looks like the band aren't going to respond in email to the questions a few of you set them and I sent on, probably because the Archangel Gabriel couldn't respond to some of them without resorting to violence. Stuart says he'd rather do it on the day of the chat so get your software ready. There's suddenly 510 people on this list, a staggering influx bearing in mind we all talk crap. Welcome to the new people and sometime let us know why you put up with us all and stick around. Please don't be afraid to pipe up if you're new. A reminder to newcomers to pop in to my site and have a browse through the guide for using the mailing list at http://www.majordomo.net/sinister along with an ever increasing number of baby pictures, and that there is a set of Frequently Asked Questions now for Belle and Sebastian themselves at http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/faq/faq.htm on the Fan Club site. Also, for those new boys and girls who want to ask a question but aren't sure if everyone will groan (if they do I slam a ruler down on their desks and tell them to not picking their noses), please remember there is a SEARCH facility for ALL the postings that have ever been sent to this list at my site. Just click on the top link and you're away. Honey xxx -- Thank you for not discussing the outside world. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 00:26:08 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 19:26:08 EST Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) Message-ID: <51babab6.34fb4e22@aol.com> My bastard flatmate set me a '80s lyrics quiz a few days ago (gawd, what a krayzee life we lead) and I've still only got 13 out of 50. He still won't tell me the answers, which I fear is in revenge for my good self having played the Dog On Wheels EP to such a degree that he now finds himself singing in the shower against his better judgement. Pah! Any ideas? (NB in anticipation of any emails telling me to try the '80s list - I already have, but their taste is not as impeccable as B&S bods. I mean that most sincerely folks, I really do). Let's go....... 1) I need your love tonight, not just a hand to hold... 2) I must have left my house at eight because I always do... 3) Welcome to the great republic, guess I should show you round, where once I was a king but now I am a clown... 4) Every night she walks right in my dreams since I met her from the start... 5) She goes out every night 'til the morning is light, and she sleeps all day... 6) Look at my hopes look at my dreams and the currency we've spent.... 7) All your dreams help you forget, you ain't never danced a step... 8) I can feel the earth begin to move, I hear my needle hit the groove 9) Why should it be, that my heart's under lock and I can't find the key... 10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... 11) You don't have to say you love me, you don't have to say you care... 12) Nobody knows me, but I'm always there... 13) Arms intwined, the chosen few, the newspaper says.... it's true.... we can break through.... 14) Out of my head to say the things I said, I didn't mean a word... 15) I said "a fine man", she said "So arrogant - I will decide where I go or I don't go"... 16) The tears I cry aren't tears of pain, they're all to hide my hidden shame... 17) I was standing, you were there, two world collided... 18) Laughing like children, living like lovers, rolling like thunder, under the covers... 19) Subject me to the truth to the heartache and pain, until my mind is twisted... 20) By a tree near a river there's a hole in the ground.... 21) I say I think I ought to go, she answers yes, but I say no... 22) Here it comes again, chugging like a train, round and round, the same old tune... 23) I won't be here when you come home, I'm sorry if you don't understand forgive me if you can... 24) You got style, that's what all the girls say... 25) So now it's over, he's got a heart made out of stone... 26) Soldiers of fortune by some other name... 27) What's your definition of dirty baby, what do you consider pornography.. 28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... 29) We're going to find a way, find a way to get a way, this time... 30) We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I... 31) P.E.R.S.P.E.C.T.I.V.E, is no mystery... 32) A walk in the park can become a bad dream... 33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... 34) Nothing is certain in a changing world... 35) It's all the same, only the names have changed... 36) Tonight I need your sweet caress, hold me in the darkness, 37) Take a look at me, wired to a machine... 38) When the chips are down, I'll be around, with my undying death defying love for you... 39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... 40) If you said jump I'd say "how high", if you said run I'd run and fly... 41) This could be the last time, I think I said that last time... 42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special place... 43) You're out of time, and I'm out of my head when your not around... 44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a girl like me... 45) Boys, now the times are changing the going could get rough... 46) There's only two things that you can't hide from - you and the ground you're walking on... 47) And the music don't feel how it felt when I felt it with you... 48) I went though some nights concerned by the shadows, I was crippled emotionally 49) You're breathing in fumes I taste when we kiss... 50) Every time in rains, I have you here in my head... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 01:49:04 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 01:49:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ultrasound Message-ID: <199803030034.AAA27240@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> OK I am really, really sorry but I saw Ultrasound at Conway Hall in London and it was absolutely fantastic. Believe me if you've bought "Best Wishes" then it just doesn't do justice to the live experience. Anyone from the list go? bye Northy ______________________________________________________ "Everyday, when I wake up, I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" Cerys Matthews - 1998 ________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 01:06:44 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:06:44 EST Subject: Sinister: Is Stuart Murdoch a pooftahsexual? Message-ID: <4af7e2cb.34fb57a6@aol.com> In a message dated 3/2/98 6:40:10PM, M9523138 at Queens-Belfast.AC.UK wrote: << A PREDICTION- if b+s ever really REALLY become popular the main question every hack journalist on the planet will be asking is not about the musical content but whether Stuart Murdoch is a "queer",Im old enough to remember this happening to MORRISSEY and it really gets quite tedious. >> You can't accuse the hacks of being tedious - it's a legitimate popster ploy that the likes of Bolan, Bowie, Lou Reed (with some justification at least) and, er, Boy George played well before La Mozzarella. As a gay adolescent I certainly hunted for any 'clues' that, yes, "my god, could it be? someone I admire is a bit like me!" - Teen queers need role models, but ambiguity works just as well. Stuart will be just that role model for a few 'kids', if only for Seeing Other People alone. I interviewed Dickon from Orlando a year or so ago and he was playing the same "am I/aren't I? Well, I really don't know...." game and, although it was frustrating at the time (as in one wanted to slap him and shout "Morrissey was SO last season!"), there's a legitimate benefit from doing so, on both sides of the fence. Without wishing to quote the hackney-ed old Manics thing of "All rock and roll is homosexual", or quoting Nirvana sleeve notes (both of which I've just done to a degree), "queer" is an ANGLE. Considering that most pop stars are as dull as Dion in an interview scenario, the "I once saw a bloke and thought yeah, maybe" line is headline news (witness recent headlines to that effect about Robbie Williams and Chris "yeah, right!" Evans"). If B&S want to dispel such aspertions, all they have to do is deny them. But they won't. And why should they. It's a LARF, innit? EH??! Stephen. PS I really admire and respect Madonna for the way she's got where she is today. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jrbia at xxx.br Tue Mar 3 02:26:32 1998 From: jrbia at xxx.br (Junior/Fabiana) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 23:26:32 -0300 Subject: Sinister: NB&SC: Future Bible Hereos Message-ID: <199803030226.CAA12062@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> At the start, Magnetic Fields had a female singer, called Susan Anway. She is the voice in their two first albuns (which were later released in one single CD): "Distant Plastic Trees" and "The Wayward Bus". Then she left the band and went back to her city (and I just can't remember the name of the place). So, the first and only supreme genious of humanity, Stephin Merrit, the guy who wrote the most perfect song a human beign has ever dreamt to create ("Born on a Train", from 'The Charm of the Highway Strip') started singing with that MARVELLOUS voice that you can also listen in Future Bible Heroes and The Gothic Archies (he has another band, The 6ths, but I don't know it yet). As I always say, everybody in this world should listen "When You Were My Baby" at least once in life. Then this would be - for sure - a much better world to live on... :o) Fabiana ---------- > De: Andrew Hung Nguyen > Para: Belle and Sebastian > Assunto: Sinister: NB&SC: Future Bible Hereos > Data: Segunda-feira, 2 de Março de 1998 15:27 > > Hey all, > I know a good portion of the list likes the Magnetic Fields so you > can probably help me. I just bought the Future Bible Hereos CD and I have > only listened to it once and I really like it. I really enjoy the > female vocals yet I have not got into the male vocals. I was wondering if > all the Magnetic Fields music sound like the male vocals? And does his > voice grow on you over time? > > Thanks, > Andrew N. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aarnette at xxx.edu Mon Mar 2 17:00:09 1998 From: aarnette at xxx.edu (Andy Arnette) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 22:00:09 +0500 Subject: Sinister: NB&SC: Future Bible Hereos Message-ID: <199803030302.WAA00686@sable.cc.vt.edu> >he has another band, The 6ths, but I don't know it yet. Ah The 6ths. Not really another band. More of a tribute to himself. Stephin wrote all the songs and then had his favorite indie rock vocalists come in and sing the words to his wonderful bubblegum electro pop ditties. Guests include Georgia Hubley (Yo La Tengo), Lou Barlow (Sebadoh, Folk Implosion, etc), Mac McCaughan (Superchunk, Portastatic), Mark Robinson (Air Miami, Unrest), Mary Timony (Helium), Barbara Manning (SF Seals), and too many others to list hear. This is my favorite Stephin Merritt project because the variety of vocalists is wonderful but the music keeps this album very cohesive and doesn't allow it to become a compilation or mix tape affair (I really hate that stuff). Later, ANDY ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Mar 2 20:33:22 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 21:33:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: GobStop Message-ID: <01bd461a$72396520$LocalHost@itjfvkli> >I dunno Rod, plenty of us had hours of fun on your website the other night. >Your amazing "Love Calculator" being a particular highlight. Did you really >shell out the cash for that domain name too. Wouldn't the money have been >better spent on Who records. I just tried to pay a little visit to Rod's new comedy corner, bbut the bbloody thing wwouldn't lllet mme. All money should be spent on Who records, the more extra tracks the better. There, that was blissfully short. Peter "my love is vengeance" - The Who ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Mar 3 13:17:38 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 05:17:38 -0800 Subject: Sinister: steve References: <199803030302.WAA00686@sable.cc.vt.edu> Message-ID: <34FC02F1.5CDB@earthlink.net> this same topic is running itself through over on the low mailing list. Andy Arnette wrote: > > >he has another band, The 6ths, but I don't know it yet. > > Ah The 6ths. Not really another band. More of a tribute to himself. > Stephin wrote all the songs and then had his favorite indie rock vocalists > come in and sing the words to his wonderful bubblegum electro pop ditties. i'm no expert on all things steve but i do know that he had nothing to do with who sang the songs. he left that up to claudia. she picked them. the only part he took in the sixths thing was, of course, writing the songs, and since he doesn't like his own voice he wanted other people to sing them. and he also sent the singers back into the studio if they didn't sound "bored" enough. he had to do it with a couple of the people on that sixths record. he didn't want to sing them himself, but he did have an exact idea of how they should have been sung. and for whoever said "born on a train" is one of the best songs ever to grace this earth......you are a genius. and i've been making promises i know i'll never keep one of these days i'm gonna leave you in your sleep i'll have to go when the whistle blows the whistle blows my name maybe i was born on a train -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Mar 3 13:53:09 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 05:53:09 -0800 Subject: Sinister: l.o.v.e. Message-ID: <34FC0B45.1995@earthlink.net> hey again. just been round to begbie's site. according to his love calculator i only love myself 18 percent. and do they really deep fry mars bars? i've suspected that pizza hut deep fries their pizzas for some time now cause every time i get one it's just dripping with that shit. now papa john's.....that's a pizza. so here's my question to the person who reckons herself to be the dear abby of the sinisterites: what's wrong with me? should i believe rod's calculator? will i ever get the chance for someone to give me the "bumps"? why do i like pvc and barbed wire so much? why isn't there a horny spice? now that would be my favorite. or what about an old spice? she'd smell like my father. and what exactly happened to shane macgowan's teeth? and why are badgers so feared? why isn't there a cheese flavored communion wafer called "Cheesus Christs"? oh dear -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 09:10:02 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 09:10:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: No B&S Content, Add N To X/Ariel M Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F876@RMF1> Add N to X, Ariel M. Anyone see either of theses two bands last night in Camden Town? If you didn't I advise taking the next available opportunity to see them, they are the Sepultura of dance, who will send the Prodigy crying to thier Barby dolls. Anything I ever see from this day on will be hard to live up to. tut ta, Huw -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2003 bytes Desc: not available URL: From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 10:21:00 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:21:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Judy Message-ID: <01BD468E.110CE500@pc07628> Every buggers having B&S related dreams.....snot fair. As an insomniac the dreams are obviously few and far between. Can anyone please advise me what substances they take in the hours leading up to their retirement ? Most ordinary people would have dreams a few seconds before waking up in the morning. Nay me. After a bizarre concoction of both legal and slightly-less-than-legal substances last night (taken to get me through the footie one will understand) it was no surprise to me that I was out-like-a-light as soon as my head hit the pillow. However, this success was short lived. Within seconds of me marching into the dream arena I was bolt upright in terror after being chased by GIANT LEGO MEN (Me thinks Lego is universal). Maybe under normal circumstances this wouldn't be so peculiar (then again), but for the fact that these lego men were of no single colour bricks. This is just so unlike me. I wouldn't go to the extent of organising a cd collection in alphabetical order, but when building giant Lego men, using the same colour bricks is of upmost importance. Anyone got any ideas ? Adey-the-suit. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cam at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 18:16:58 1998 From: cam at xxx.uk (King Fame Throwa) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 10:16:58 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Not a happy thought Message-ID: <199803031816.KAA01438@mail> Whilst musing the possibility of B&S becoming popular I thought a horrible thing. What if Evans became a fan? Would this mean mainstream radio, top 10 success and regular apperances on the godamnawfulsycophanticshite that is TFI... alongside Evans mates like Billy Ocean Colour Scene, Texas , the so-called Weller-Feller etc. Ugh... makes me turn green at the thought.....but then Cornershop at number 1??? From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Mon Mar 2 10:47:36 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Mon, 02 Mar 1998 10:47:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tune all your voices and instruments play References: Message-ID: <34FA8E48.270E7BFE@virgin.net> ELIZABETH DAPLYN wrote: > I shall bring chocolate Rice Crispie thingies and lots of sweets of the > acidic and delicious variety. B&S picnic menu! Let's go! Aren't they called chocolate crackles ??? Or is that an Aussie thing yet again? cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 11:20:11 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:20:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Is "Smile" on in Manchester this Sat? Message-ID: Hi all Does anyone know if "Smile" is on this Saturday? If so where is it held, what time does it start/end, how much does it cost? etc... cheers Chris C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 11:23:52 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 06:23:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Begging Bowl Message-ID: <199803030650_MC2-3547-2FDB@compuserve.com> Is there any way that one of you nice people could make me a tape of any radio sessions, demos, live bootlegs that you might have? I have all the records but in the absence of anything new I'm developing a serious craving for more. The only unreleased thing I have is Seymour Stein, which I managed to tape off the radio on a rare occasion when my tuner was working properly. I can't offer a great deal in return. I have an embarrassingly large collection of jangly 80s cack, so maybe if there's anything in that line that some of you would like to have on tape, you could let me know? Perhaps you could e-mail me so as not to bore people on the list? It looks like I'm called Ruth, but really I'm not. Lots of love, DAVID ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickdastoor at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 11:53:03 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 03:53:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) Message-ID: <19980303115303.21582.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> off the top of my head... > 1) I need your love tonight, not just a hand to hold... "Body and Soul"? by ... I can't remember > 6) Look at my hopes look at my dreams and the currency we've spent.... "Rent" - PSB > 7) All your dreams help you forget, you ain't never danced a step... "King of Rock and Roll" - Prefab Sprout > 8) I can feel the earth begin to move, I hear my needle hit the groove "She Bangs the Drum" - Stone Roses > 18) Laughing like children, living like lovers, rolling like thunder, under > the covers... "I guess that's why they call it the blues" - Elton John > 20) By a tree near a river there's a hole in the ground.... "I won't let the sun go down on me" - Nik Kershaw > 28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... "A new romance" by ? > 38) When the chips are down, I'll be around, with my undying death defying > love for you... "The Power of Love" - FGTH > 44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a girl > like me... "I want that man" - by ? Bugger, who was it? nick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Tue Mar 3 12:24:00 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:24:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) In-Reply-To: <51babab6.34fb4e22@aol.com> Message-ID: My attempts.... >10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... Thompson Twins... >17) I was standing, you were there, two world collided... Never tear us apart.. INXS. >20) By a tree near a river there's a hole in the ground.... It is 'The Riddle' by Nick Kershaw. >24) You got style, that's what all the girls say... Madonna. Dress you up. >29) We're going to find a way, find a way to get a way, this time... An Englan World cup song. >30) We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I... Rick Astley. Never gonna give you up. >33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... I'm getting frustrated now... >36) Tonight I need your sweet caress, hold me in the darkness, Breathe. ? >39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... Huey Lewis and the news. The power of love. >42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special >place... Someone please help with these two!! >48) I went though some nights concerned by the shadows, I was crippled >emotionally Claire. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 12:31:01 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:31:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Not a happy thought Message-ID: > Subject: Sinister: Not a happy thought > > Whilst musing the possibility of B&S becoming popular I thought a > horrible > thing. > > What if Evans became a fan? Would this mean mainstream radio, top 10 > success > and regular apperances on the godamnawfulsycophanticshite that is > TFI... > alongside Evans mates like > Billy Ocean Colour Scene, Texas , the so-called Weller-Feller etc. > You think B&S would actually go on TFI? I think that could happen...in an alternate universe where everything is complete PANTS, maybe! Egad! Perhaps Stuart et al will suddenly change their personalities completely and become media whores of the first order. Does this sound likely to anyone? No. Besides, the thought of Evans listening to anything so beautiful is really bizarre. You can sleep again. > Ugh... makes me turn green at the thought.....but then Cornershop at > number 1??? > Not for long, sadly. Or not sadly, for indie purists. ByeBye, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ************************************************************* Love without hope, as when the young bird-catcher Swept off his tall hat to the Squire's own daughter, So let the imprisoned larks escape and fly Singing about her head, as she rode by. Robert Graves ************************************************************ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 12:34:50 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:34:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sexy librarians In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, ByTheSea6 wrote: > In a message dated 98-03-02 16:56:25 EST, LeslieH at WILWEL.COM writes: > > << I'm American I wouldn't know who Bill Hicks is ;.) and I thought the > > Bill Hicks was this incredibly funny comedian from America > I /think/ that LeslieH was being sarcastic. But don't quote me on that. > Radiohead dedicated The Bends to Bill Hicks. I've also seen him mentioned on sleeves from Super FUrry Animals and the Lo-Fi Allstars. The man was a comedy great, though. He dies, and Dennis Leary lives. Where's the justice? Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message is respectfully dedicated to Mr Elias Howe who, in 1847, | invented the sewing machine. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 12:42:25 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:42:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) Message-ID: <199803031237.MAA13480@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Was I the only person reading that list of epic lyrics and really hoping to see the words... "Everybody have fun tonight: Everybody Wang Chung tonight..." sigh John >---------- >From: Nick Dastoor[SMTP:nickdastoor at xxx.com] >Reply To: Nick Dastoor >Sent: 03 Mar 1998 11:53 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Re: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) > > > >off the top of my head... > > >> 1) I need your love tonight, not just a hand to hold... > >"Body and Soul"? by ... I can't remember > >> 6) Look at my hopes look at my dreams and the currency we've spent.... > >"Rent" - PSB > >> 7) All your dreams help you forget, you ain't never danced a step... > >"King of Rock and Roll" - Prefab Sprout > >> 8) I can feel the earth begin to move, I hear my needle hit the groove > >"She Bangs the Drum" - Stone Roses > >> 18) Laughing like children, living like lovers, rolling like >thunder, under >> the covers... > >"I guess that's why they call it the blues" - Elton John > >> 20) By a tree near a river there's a hole in the ground.... > >"I won't let the sun go down on me" - Nik Kershaw > >> 28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... > >"A new romance" by ? > >> 38) When the chips are down, I'll be around, with my undying death >defying >> love for you... > >"The Power of Love" - FGTH > >> 44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a >girl >> like me... > >"I want that man" - by ? Bugger, who was it? > >nick > >_________________________________________________________ >DO YOU YAHOO!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 12:50:26 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:50:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Roald Dahl [non-B&S] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Buick1967 wrote: > Roald Dahl is a fantastic writer I could not agree more. While I have read some of his adult work, I feel that his forte was the incredible childrens books he wrote. He was one of few authors who understood what makes children tick. For example, the running trend of the "David v. Goliath" stories (Charlie vs. Other Kids, the animals vs. The Twits, Matilda vs. her parents), plus the wonderful "Whizzpopper" sequence from The BFG. When I was doing my Higher English at school, I wanted to do my "Review of Personal Reading" on Charlie & The Chocolate Factory (examining the intentions of the author with respect to childrens behaviour), but my English teacher wouldn't let me, saying it wasn't suitable. So I did it on the play "Gasping" by Ben Elton, taking great care to quote excerpts with foul language in them. I got a better mark for my Higher English than I did for Computing, yet I ended up on a CompSci course. Make of that what you will. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | % got a light? | got: No match. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M9523138 at xxx.UK Tue Mar 3 12:52:51 1998 From: M9523138 at xxx.UK (Eimeir Tereasa McCartan) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:52:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: are belle simply capitalists? Message-ID: having completed my english degree and being now on the dole for about seven months i am now insane and really quite bored.Anyway being at a loose end I decided to emulate stuart murdoch by riding around on citybuses for a hobby(to see if it really was sad) yeah well not only was it sad but i spent all my dole money going round and round all day around belfast city centre . bloody pop stars always going on about how much money theyve got.it is all right for you stu to be taking buses everywhere but some of us cant afford it you know.........now thathes got fame stuart has lost touch with his leftist principles and is now a bourgeosie fat cat.............. cormac rafferty(he likes a larf you know) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 12:57:04 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 12:57:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Roald Dahl [non-B&S] Message-ID: > > Roald Dahl is a fantastic writer He's also got a fit daughter!! C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 13:02:49 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:02:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) In-Reply-To: <19980303115303.21582.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Nick Dastoor wrote: > > 44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a girl > > like me... > > "I want that man" - by ? Bugger, who was it? Debbie (sorry, "Deborah") Harry. Anyone got any news on that Blondie revival tour? Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | She's looking real drab, just out of rehab. | I'm talking football, she's talking AbFab. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 13:04:15 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:04:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Roald Dahl [non-B&S] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Dr C.B.Stride wrote: > > > > Roald Dahl is a fantastic writer > > He's also got a fit daughter!! If you mean Sophie, then she's his grand-daughter. And you're absolutely right. How useless is the Internet? Searched on Yahoo, Hotbot and Altavista for "Sophie Dahl", and all that comes back is a discussion board of people asking if anyone has any photos. I guess I'll have to put off that hand shandy until later... Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Terry Scott, Bill Maynard, Wilfred Brambell, Carmel McSharry and | The Krankies join Ted Rogers and Dusty Bin. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 13:13:03 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetry place2) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:13:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) Message-ID: <199803031357.NAA16625@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> > > > 44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a > girl > > like me... > > "I want that man" - by ? Bugger, who was it? > > nick > Nick! how could you possibly forget the divine deborah harry? I'm ashamed for you! Trousers _______________________________________________________ > DO YOU YAHOO!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Mar 3 14:12:57 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:12:57 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Murdoch On Denim Message-ID: <01bd46ae$77f8f4a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Honey Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: martes 3 de marzo de 1998 1:39 Asunto: Sinister: Murdoch On Felt >On the subject, it looks like the band aren't going to respond in email to >the questions a few of you set them and I sent on, probably because the >Archangel Gabriel couldn't respond to some of them without resorting to >violence. Stuart says he'd rather do it on the day of the chat so get >your software ready. Very poor show. As my dad would say, "we all have to do things we don't like doing". And I think publicly answering questions about one's sexual orientation falls firmly into that category. What a shame Field Marshall Murdoch has bottled it. We could do with something like that to get us back on track. I suppose someone will just have to make the answers up instead. Go on Chris, you do it. But try and keep your testicles out of it this time. In an attempt to join in all the photo fun I have been surfing the web in search of a picture of my alter-ego, Bobby Chariot. There aren't any. Not one. Still, not to worry. I'm sure I'll find something appropriately obese. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 15:14:11 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:14:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > >33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... That's The Beautiful South - You Keep It All In. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | 0 OK, 0:1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sha0801l at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 15:28:37 1998 From: sha0801l at xxx.uk (Westminster Pupil: sha0801l) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 15:28:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980303152837.0068dcac@194.238.147.3> Hi to all, If any of you people are feeling generous enough to copy TIGERMILK for me I would love you forever. Any offers, mail me. Only a short one. But the outcome, will hopefully be fruitful. Favorite Belle and Sebastian song of the day: Modern Rock Song. bye < D O U G > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From anonclothing at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 15:37:14 1998 From: anonclothing at xxx.com (Gareth Watkins) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:37:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (19 out of 50 please help) Message-ID: <07de72741150338UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> didn't do this on my own, but would be nice if people could fill in as much as poss and re post as some of them really are driving me mad no 33 in particular 1) I need your love tonight, not just a hand to hold... >2) I must have left my house at eight because I always do... the day before you came - abba >3) Welcome to the great republic, guess I should show you round, where once >I was a king but now I am a clown... >4) Every night she walks right in my dreams since I met her from the >start... >5) She goes out every night 'til the morning is light, and she sleeps all >day... >6) Look at my hopes look at my dreams and the currency we've spent.... rent -psb >7) All your dreams help you forget, you ain't never danced a step... king of rock &roll - prefab sprout >8) I can feel the earth begin to move, I hear my needle hit the groove she bangs the drums - stone roses >9) Why should it be, that my heart's under lock and I can't find the key... >10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... you lift me up-thompson twins >11) You don't have to say you love me, you don't have to say you care... you don't have to say you love me- dusty spring field >12) Nobody knows me, but I'm always there... one in ten - ub40 >13) Arms intwined, the chosen few, the newspaper says.... it's true.... we >can break through.... >14) Out of my head to say the things I said, I didn't mean a word... >15) I said "a fine man", she said "So arrogant - I will decide where I go >or I don't go"... >16) The tears I cry aren't tears of pain, they're all to hide my hidden >shame... >17) I was standing, you were there, two world collided... never tear us apart- inxs >18) Laughing like children, living like lovers, rolling like thunder, under >the covers... i guess thats why they call it the blues - elton john >19) Subject me to the truth to the heartache and pain, until my mind is >twisted... >20) By a tree near a river there's a hole in the ground.... the riddle - nick kershaw >21) I say I think I ought to go, she answers yes, but I say no... >22) Here it comes again, chugging like a train, round and round, the same >old tune... >23) I won't be here when you come home, I'm sorry if you don't understand >forgive me if you can... >24) You got style, that's what all the girls say... >25) So now it's over, he's got a heart made out of stone... >26) Soldiers of fortune by some other name... >27) What's your definition of dirty baby, what do you consider >pornography.. >28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... >29) We're going to find a way, find a way to get a way, this time... >30) We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I... never gonna give you up - rick astley >31) P.E.R.S.P.E.C.T.I.V.E, is no mystery... >32) A walk in the park can become a bad dream... >33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... >34) Nothing is certain in a changing world... >35) It's all the same, only the names have changed... dead or alive - bon jovi >36) Tonight I need your sweet caress, hold me in the darkness, >37) Take a look at me, wired to a machine... hyperactive-thomas dolby? >38) When the chips are down, I'll be around, with my undying death defying >love for you... power of love - fgth >39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... the power of love- huey lewis & the news >40) If you said jump I'd say "how high", if you said run I'd run and fly... tiffany - i think we're alone now >41) This could be the last time, I think I said that last time... >42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special >place... sweet chile o mine- guns & roses >43) You're out of time, and I'm out of my head when your not around... >44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a girl >like me... i want that man - transvision vamp? >45) Boys, now the times are changing the going could get rough... >46) There's only two things that you can't hide from - you and the ground >you're walking on... >47) And the music don't feel how it felt when I felt it with you... ashford & simpson - footsteps? >48) I went though some nights concerned by the shadows, I was crippled >emotionally >49) You're breathing in fumes I taste when we kiss... >50) Every time in rains, I have you here in my head... >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mneimark at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 15:46:11 1998 From: mneimark at xxx.com (Matthew Neimark) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 07:46:11 PST Subject: Sinister: RE:Stephin Merrit and his various projects Message-ID: <19980303154612.5780.qmail@hotmail.com> First of all, the B&S and Magnetic Fields connection: I saw Claudia after the B&S show and she didn't seem to be too thrilled with me after I joked about pirating Tigermilk (despite the fact I had given her a free copy of Candy Factory after their first FBH show in Boston -- she didn't remember who the hell I was). She did tell me two things. 1) She loves B&S but Stephin doesn't really like them much. Hmmf. To each their own I suppose. Seems he thinks they are just a standard folk-pop band and doesn't see what is so special about them. Probably hasn't listened enough to them. 2) Although Chris Ewen composes the general synthesizer-type melody backgrounds of the songs in FBH, Stephin Merrit still writes the vocal melodies which are probably what dominates the "sound" in a way, especially in hits like "lonely Days" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 15:51:02 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:51:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) In-Reply-To: <199803031357.NAA16625@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, poetry place2 wrote: > > > 44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a > > girl > > > like me... > > "I want that man" - by ? Bugger, who was it? > > Nick! how could you possibly forget the divine deborah harry? I'm ashamed > for you! That song always reminds me of a day I was off sick from school, and was listening to Atlantic 252, and they played that every half-hour (along with Love Shack by the B52's). "... and I want everything I can. But most of all, I want that man. I want that man." I think that was the same day I fell in love with Belinda Carlisle (did she have something released about the same time?) Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Can he swing? Listen, bud! He's got radioactive blood. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stip at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 14:41:42 1998 From: Stip at xxx.uk (Stip / Blue Music) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 14:41:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) In-Reply-To: <51babab6.34fb4e22@aol.com> Message-ID: This is doing my head in. I've only written the ones I know which have yet to be mentioned to anyone else. Or that's my excuse for having so few, anyway... >15) I said "a fine man", she said "So arrogant - I will decide where I go >or I don't go"... Hue and Cry - Looking for Linda >31) P.E.R.S.P.E.C.T.I.V.E, is no mystery... Aztec Camera - How men are >33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... ...'and all the things that've happened to me'... waaahhhh! what's the next bit? What the hell is this? >42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special >place... Guns N Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine >47) And the music don't feel how it felt when I felt it with you... Madonna? >48) I went though some nights concerned by the shadows, I was crippled >emotionally Is this 'I knew you were waiting for me' by George Michael and Aretha? Pants. -- Nicola M ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 15:56:43 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 15:56:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: thats not right Message-ID: <34FC283B.51B4@seahouses.u-net.com> >11) You don't have to say you love me, you don't have to say you care... you don't have to say you love me- dusty spring field call me a nit-picker but i am sure that is not from the eighties... Rachel. the chorlton misress. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M-STEAD at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 13:39:37 1998 From: M-STEAD at xxx.uk (MATTHEW M STEAD) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 13:39:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Not B&S Message-ID: Sorry to waste everone's time, but I just found out that my seminar tutor's name is Richard Starkey! Ringo's proper name. How exciting is that eh!...oh not very. Nevermind. Anyone else know anyone with really cool names. I was going to change my middle name to Godfrey, but I never had the time. 'Mayfly' should like this one.....or whatever he's called at the moment! Matt.xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 15:58:21 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 15:58:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Back at the DHSS Message-ID: <01bd46bd$30db8ce0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> > having completed my english degree and being now on the dole >for about seven months i am now insane and really quite >bored.Anyway being at a loose end I decided to emulate stuart >murdoch by riding around on citybuses I know how you feel, I spent 5 months or so on the dole a few years back and never again... working may not be ideal, but it's infinitely preferable to waking up every day at 2 o'clock, eating beans, watching blackadder and then going to the museum, cause it's the only free place to go (which has now changed). Hardly ever managed to do things I wanted to do cause you're constantly hassled by the situation you're in. It's certainly not enjoyable from my point of view (although I know people who did enjoy it). However, there are alternatives... as someone suggested recently, you could start a youth group. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mjs2 at xxx.net Tue Mar 3 16:28:55 1998 From: mjs2 at xxx.net (mathew schwartz) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:28:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: re: 80s tunes Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980303112855.007dd7a0@tiac.net> I feel so inadequate, I think this is going to take over my day. I was rather hoping for: "And the tap goes drip drip drip drip drip drip ... " Anyway, not to add to the ones already mentioned, so... >>33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... >I'm getting frustrated now... "You Keep it All In" -- Beautiful South! (Actually, the album's from 1990.) >10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... Bronski Beat? >39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... Laura Branigan? -- mat, expertly subverting corporate culture by thinking about those painful 80s tunes. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From anonclothing at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 16:28:49 1998 From: anonclothing at xxx.com (Gareth Watkins) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:28:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) Message-ID: <08c7d1833160338UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> dear world the person who told me that i want that man was transvision vamp has been shot i will now go and shoot myself for believing them god the shame gareth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rcoleman at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 16:33:44 1998 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:33:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: quiz #33 Message-ID: oi >didn't do this on my own, but would be nice if people could fill in >as much as poss and re post as some of them really are driving me mad >no 33 in particular Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... #33 is the beautiful south's not-so-beautiful 'YOU KEEP IT ALL IN' -Rod the sod xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Tue Mar 3 16:55:45 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 11:55:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: yup. don't make me tell you how I know that. > >36) Tonight I need your sweet caress, hold me in the darkness, > Breathe. ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 16:53:45 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:53:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: re: 80s tunes Message-ID: <199803031648.QAA22657@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> >39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... ..that's the power of love. Is that Mr Huey Lewis and his News? Or Jennifer Rush?? Or Frankie GTH. I reckon it's Huey JJ >---------- >From: mathew schwartz[SMTP:mjs2 at xxx.net] >Reply To: mathew schwartz >Sent: 03 Mar 1998 16:28 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: re: 80s tunes > >I feel so inadequate, I think this is going to take over my day. >I was rather hoping for: "And the tap goes drip drip drip drip drip drip ... >" > >Anyway, not to add to the ones already mentioned, so... > >>>33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... > >I'm getting frustrated now... > >"You Keep it All In" -- Beautiful South! (Actually, the album's from 1990.) > >>10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... >Bronski Beat? > >>39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... >Laura Branigan? > >-- mat, expertly subverting corporate culture by thinking about those >painful 80s tunes. > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Tue Mar 3 17:24:20 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 17:24:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mayfly Message-ID: It's interesting all these people describing B&S as folk-rock. Genres have limited use, i know but I never thought of them as being that. The organ on 'Mayfly sounds like 'Telstar' by the Tornadoes. But was anyone on this list born when that came out..... not me, i missed it by 9 years. The reviewer who made comparisons with the first Lilac Time album... now that I can identify with! Has Duffy done anything lately? His guest appearance on "Western Wind" on St Etienne's Tiger bay album was the last I heard of him and that was '94. Re the name thing- a good way to come up with a good pseudonym is to take the your middle name and follow it with the name of the first street you lived in. Try it. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 17:48:45 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 17:48:45 GMT Subject: Sinister: Oooh, my hankies a bit damp Message-ID: <3621.199803031748@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Gareth may have written: >47) And the music don't feel how it felt when I felt it with you... >ashford & simpson - footsteps? Surely it was the unmatchable Womack and Womack that sang "Footsteps", and didn't Ashford and Simpson sing "Solid as a rock"? As to which of these songs (if any) "and the music.........blah" comes from, I'm none the wiser. Anyway, thanks for the memories.......my sister and I would have to hang on to each other to steady ourselves whenever we heard "Footsteps" .........awwww, the good old days. Sorry, this will mean nothing to noeb'dy, and no B+S content either. Byeee Sarah (not the one that's going now, but I am) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Room 106/Lab 304 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8NA Phone: 0141 339 8855 ext.2860/2640 E-mail: Sarah.Wheeler at bio.gla.ac.uk ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ggy3swm4 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 18:37:22 1998 From: ggy3swm4 at xxx.uk (Nick Morton) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:37:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (19 out of 50 please hel Message-ID: <1BF50E3818@novell2.bham.ac.uk> > >40) If you said jump I'd say "how high", if you said run I'd run and fly... > tiffany - i think we're alone now No it ain't! Much as I always was more partial to Tiff (ooh, Drop that Bomb from her second album was SUCH a good pop song) (how sad am I?), that was the actually not-quite-as-good Debbie Gibson and 'We could be together' Altogether now ... just for the chance, just for the reason, should the reason pass me by.... Whadda you mean you don't remember?! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And the sad part is..... You do my world the world of good e-mail: ggy3swm4 at novell2.bham.ac.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Mar 2 20:12:17 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1998 20:12:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: stars shining bright above me Message-ID: hi. i apologise for my last post. i, like the afore-mentioned parents, was drunk-er in writing that, than i thought. i apologise. it was a sunday. how else am i suposed to cope! and now i've read the digest and feel just daft. doh. Susannah, i have a problem. i talk too much shite. oh well have nothing else to say. ******* subliminal mesage******** EVERY STUDENT WALK OUT OF COLLEGE/UNIVERSITY ON WEDNESDAY!!! SHUT THEM DOWN! (or just have a day off! i don't care about yer motives i give on up on half of humanity, but just GO!) ******end of subliminal message**** la la la isn't it a lovely day for love? my patios on fire, isnt it a lovely day, no words of wisdoms from liars.... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ThomasC at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 18:53:47 1998 From: ThomasC at xxx.com (Cunningham, Thomas) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 13:53:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: re: 80s tunes Message-ID: Yes it most certainly is Huey. You'd never catch Frankie getting all mushy like that. > -----Original Message----- > From: Johnston, John CT [SMTP:John.Johnston at xxx.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 1998 11:54 AM > To: 'sinister at majordomo.net'; 'mathew schwartz' > Subject: RE: Sinister: re: 80s tunes > > >39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... > ..that's the power of love. > > Is that Mr Huey Lewis and his News? Or Jennifer Rush?? Or Frankie GTH. > I > reckon it's Huey > > JJ > > >---------- > >From: mathew schwartz[SMTP:mjs2 at xxx.net] > >Reply To: mathew schwartz > >Sent: 03 Mar 1998 16:28 > >To: sinister at majordomo.net > >Subject: Sinister: re: 80s tunes > > > >I feel so inadequate, I think this is going to take over my day. > >I was rather hoping for: "And the tap goes drip drip drip drip drip > drip ... > >" > > > >Anyway, not to add to the ones already mentioned, so... > > > >>>33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... > > >I'm getting frustrated now... > > > >"You Keep it All In" -- Beautiful South! (Actually, the album's from > 1990.) > > > >>10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... > >Bronski Beat? > > > >>39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... > >Laura Branigan? > > > >-- mat, expertly subverting corporate culture by thinking about those > >painful 80s tunes. > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please > see > >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > >. For questions about how the list works mail > owner-sinister at majordomo.net > >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please > see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail > owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 19:30:10 1998 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:30:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: electric sound of joy In-Reply-To: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F876@RMF1> Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980303193010.235fbe5a@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> Hello beautiful things, At 09:10 03/03/98 -0000, Huw Jenkins wrote: >Add N to X, Ariel M. >Anyone see either of theses two bands last night in Camden Town? Add n to x : this is rather extreme, someone shouted to them. They are fun really, a wall of sound coming to get you. Playing (experimenting, is it called) with the machines is good for you apparently. Fuchsia shirts are the next big thing, Betty Page hair as quoted from the Big Bad Paper. Ariel M are an acquired taste I believe, when they add more layers to the 'drone' it becomes more interesting. When you tell people you're on the list, they make faces:oh, lists...oh, fans' gatherings, silly 'conventions'...It seems though that we've got a life 'of our own', yes? Who needs a fanzine when you've got Susannah's problem page, Stephen's poem transfers, Peter's 'amusement park', Genevieve's 'diaries', Rod's entertaining comments(emm). We even have a horoscope thanks to Mystic Tag. And Northy is back, isn't life wonderful again? Kelly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mneimark at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 19:42:11 1998 From: mneimark at xxx.com (Matthew Neimark) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:42:11 PST Subject: Sinister: sweet child of mine Message-ID: <19980303194211.13886.qmail@hotmail.com> >42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special>place... Guns and Roses - Sweet child of mine ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane Tue Mar 3 19:44:08 1998 From: nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane (nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 98 14:44:08 EST Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the h... Message-ID: Here's a few more: 16) The tears I cry aren't tears of pain, they're all to hide my hidden shame... Human - The Human League 36) Tonight I need your sweet caress, hold me in the darkness, Breathe - hands to heaven 27) What's your definition of dirty baby, what do you consider pornography.. George Michael - sex? or maybe Prince or Poison? Quite a few of these I think were only on the UK's charts which is why I'm having a difficult time with it! - us Canadians got to grow up on Casey Kasem's American top 40 and some really bad hair bands throw in for Canadian content and missed out on all the lovely britpop.... Natalie ------------- Original Text From: Essexdog5 , on 3/2/98 7:26 PM: My bastard flatmate set me a '80s lyrics quiz a few days ago (gawd, what a krayzee life we lead) and I've still only got 13 out of 50. He still won't tell me the answers, which I fear is in revenge for my good self having played the Dog On Wheels EP to such a degree that he now finds himself singing in the shower against his better judgement. Pah! Any ideas? (NB in anticipation of any emails telling me to try the '80s list - I already have, but their taste is not as impeccable as B&S bods. I mean that most sincerely folks, I really do). Let's go....... 1) I need your love tonight, not just a hand to hold... 2) I must have left my house at eight because I always do... 3) Welcome to the great republic, guess I should show you round, where once I was a king but now I am a clown... 4) Every night she walks right in my dreams since I met her from the start... 5) She goes out every night 'til the morning is light, and she sleeps all day... 6) Look at my hopes look at my dreams and the currency we've spent.... 7) All your dreams help you forget, you ain't never danced a step... 8) I can feel the earth begin to move, I hear my needle hit the groove 9) Why should it be, that my heart's under lock and I can't find the key... 10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... 11) You don't have to say you love me, you don't have to say you care... 12) Nobody knows me, but I'm always there... 13) Arms intwined, the chosen few, the newspaper says.... it's true.... we can break through.... 14) Out of my head to say the things I said, I didn't mean a word... 15) I said "a fine man", she said "So arrogant - I will decide where I go or I don't go"... 16) The tears I cry aren't tears of pain, they're all to hide my hidden shame... 17) I was standing, you were there, two world collided... 18) Laughing like children, living like lovers, rolling like thunder, under the covers... 19) Subject me to the truth to the heartache and pain, until my mind is twisted... 20) By a tree near a river there's a hole in the ground.... 21) I say I think I ought to go, she answers yes, but I say no... 22) Here it comes again, chugging like a train, round and round, the same old tune... 23) I won't be here when you come home, I'm sorry if you don't understand forgive me if you can... 24) You got style, that's what all the girls say... 25) So now it's over, he's got a heart made out of stone... 26) Soldiers of fortune by some other name... 27) What's your definition of dirty baby, what do you consider pornography.. 28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... 29) We're going to find a way, find a way to get a way, this time... 30) We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I... 31) P.E.R.S.P.E.C.T.I.V.E, is no mystery... 32) A walk in the park can become a bad dream... 33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... 34) Nothing is certain in a changing world... 35) It's all the same, only the names have changed... 36) Tonight I need your sweet caress, hold me in the darkness, 37) Take a look at me, wired to a machine... 38) When the chips are down, I'll be around, with my undying death defying love for you... 39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... 40) If you said jump I'd say "how high", if you said run I'd run and fly... 41) This could be the last time, I think I said that last time... 42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special place... 43) You're out of time, and I'm out of my head when your not around... 44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a girl like me... 45) Boys, now the times are changing the going could get rough... 46) There's only two things that you can't hide from - you and the ground you're walking on... 47) And the music don't feel how it felt when I felt it with you... 48) I went though some nights concerned by the shadows, I was crippled emotionally 49) You're breathing in fumes I taste when we kiss... 50) Every time in rains, I have you here in my head... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mneimark at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 19:53:45 1998 From: mneimark at xxx.com (Matthew Neimark) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 11:53:45 PST Subject: Sinister: 80's Quiz - no B&S content Message-ID: <19980303195347.16559.qmail@hotmail.com> About 5 years ago, I was listening to the radio and heard a song that sounded like some 80's brit band. For a while it was my holy grail to hear the song on the radio again and identify it. I never heard it again, but think that someone on this list might be able to help me out. Let's do this 80's Quiz style: "Blame it on me, it's raining on you...." "Tell me baby...." Both these quotes are from the same song, if you get the answer, email me privately, and I'll give you my vinyl copy of tigermilk. PS I have no vinyl copy of tigermilk, but I'll give you a tape (of something you'd like) if you need it. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 20:37:43 1998 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 20:37:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Claire Timmins wrote: > 42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special > >place... > Someone please help with these two!! Guns'n'Roses - Sweet Child O'Mine Just don't ask.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Weiland643 at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 21:25:05 1998 From: Weiland643 at xxx.com (Weiland643) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 16:25:05 EST Subject: Sinister: number ONE!!! Message-ID: <3e791eac.34fc7533@aol.com> Hi im new and i wanna talk to you! belle and sebastian are one of my new faves. and i love this mailing list. you keep a healthy active discussion. and i wanna be a part of it. so i am officially jumping in. lisa doesnt like cornershop. i like cornershop ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mkorchia at xxx.fr Tue Mar 3 23:02:47 1998 From: mkorchia at xxx.fr (Michael Korchia) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 00:02:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Felt Message-ID: <34FC8C17.1B7C@club-internet.fr> jonathan shainin wrote weeks ago: <<<<<<<<<<<<< as to felt, that line from i don't love anyone has always been one of my favorite, but in disagreement with matt, i'd have to side with "the pictorial jackson review" as the finest felt record, if only for its pure devotion to short pop songs. when i got to london last month, the only two tapes i listened to, partially to make myself feel better about being here were that, and tigermilk. i find that i never really seem to get tired of tigermilk, like i can listen to it eight or ten times in a row without ever getting bored at all. surely i can't be the only one that thinks this? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know if 'the pictorial...' is the best Felt lp, but it's one of the 2 lp i can listen too 8 hours in a row (the other one is tigermilk too!). These short pop songs on 'the pictorial...' are so good.... 25% of the i've written so far are a tribute to this magnificent lp. -- Michael Korchia mkorchia at club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/05/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.mygale.org/00/aurore/emumbly.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gte107f at xxx.edu Tue Mar 3 23:22:58 1998 From: gte107f at xxx.edu (mayfly) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 18:22:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Not B&S Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980303182258.006bfd8c@pop.prism.gatech.edu> Ah yes, matt! your story is better than mine but: mY computer science teaching assistant..his name is James Lo! (understood only by Chavez fans..)it makes me secretly giddy and i take my chavez cd with me in my backpack with plans to turn him on to the band, but i'm too shy sometimes. (i don't remember who proposed it..but)middle name + first street you lived on? i don't have a middle name...but nonetheless, christen me "nina saint sebastian way." possibly better without the "way". well, this was a break from skoolwork...back to compsci.....erg m*a*y*f*l*y ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 3 23:48:31 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 23:48:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz (cont) Message-ID: These are what we've come up with so far between us, including a few new ones... Not sure about a few of them... 28 is really annoying me! 1) I need your love tonight, not just a hand to hold... Body And Soul - Heart 2) I must have left my house at eight because I always do... The Day Before You Came - Abba 3) Welcome to the great republic, guess I should show you round, where once I was a king but now I am a clown... 4) Every night she walks right in my dreams since I met her from the start... 5) She goes out every night 'til the morning is light, and she sleeps all day... 6) Look at my hopes look at my dreams and the currency we've spent.... Rent - Pet Shop Boys 7) All your dreams help you forget, you ain't never danced a step... King Of Rock And Roll - Prefab Sprout 8) I can feel the earth begin to move, I hear my needle hit the groove She Bangs The Drum - Stone Roses 9) Why should it be, that my heart's under lock and I can't find the key... 10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... You Lift Me Up - Thompson Twins 11) You don't have to say you love me, you don't have to say you care... You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield 12) Nobody knows me, but I'm always there... One In Ten - UB40 13) Arms intwined, the chosen few, the newspaper says.... it's true.... we can break through.... 14) Out of my head to say the things I said, I didn't mean a word... 15) I said "a fine man", she said "So arrogant - I will decide where I go or I don't go"... Looking For Linda - Hue And Cry 16) The tears I cry aren't tears of pain, they're all to hide my hidden shame... Human - The Human League 17) I was standing, you were there, two world collided... Never Tear Us Apart - INXS 18) Laughing like children, living like lovers, rolling like thunder, under the covers... I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues - Elton John 19) Subject me to the truth to the heartache and pain, until my mind is twisted... 20) By a tree near a river there's a hole in the ground.... The Riddle - Nik Kershaw 21) I say I think I ought to go, she answers yes, but I say no... I Got You Babe - ? 22) Here it comes again, chugging like a train, round and round, the same old tune... Love Train - Holly Johnson 23) I won't be here when you come home, I'm sorry if you don't understand forgive me if you can... 24) You got style, that's what all the girls say... Dress You Up - Madonna 25) So now it's over, he's got a heart made out of stone... 26) Soldiers of fortune by some other name... 27) What's your definition of dirty baby, what do you consider pornography.. Sex - George Michael 28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... 29) We're going to find a way, find a way to get a way, this time... 30) We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I... Never Gonna Give You Up - Rick Astley 31) P.E.R.S.P.E.C.T.I.V.E, is no mystery... How Men Are - Aztec Camera 32) A walk in the park can become a bad dream... 33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... You Keep It All In - Beautiful South 34) Nothing is certain in a changing world... 35) It's all the same, only the names have changed... Dead Or Alive - Bon Jovi 36) Tonight I need your sweet caress, hold me in the darkness, Hands To Heaven - Breathe 37) Take a look at me, wired to a machine... Hyperactive - Thomas Dolby 38) When the chips are down, I'll be around, with my undying death defying love for you... Power Of Love - Frankie Goes To Hollywood 39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... The Power Of Love - Huey Lewis And The News 40) If you said jump I'd say "how high", if you said run I'd run and fly... We Could Be Together - Debbie Gibson 41) This could be the last time, I think I said that last time... 42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special place... Sweet Child Of Mine - Guns 'n' Roses 43) You're out of time, and I'm out of my head when your not around... 44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a girl like me... I Want That Man - Debbie Harry 45) Boys, now the times are changing the going could get rough... 46) There's only two things that you can't hide from - you and the ground you're walking on... 47) And the music don't feel how it felt when I felt it with you... Footsteps - Ashford And Simpson 48) I went though some nights concerned by the shadows, I was crippled emotionally I Knew You Were Waiting For Me - George Michael & Aretha Franklin 49) You're breathing in fumes I taste when we kiss... ? - Madonna 50) Every time in rains, I have you here in my head... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From leslie.chinea at xxx.com Tue Mar 3 18:54:00 1998 From: leslie.chinea at xxx.com (leslie chinea) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:54:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinister Solicitation Sheet Message-ID: <0003507D.4556@emimusic.com> Thought some of you might find the following Matador retail solicitation sheet on Sinister interesting, factual reading.... ________________________ Now available on Matador Records, BELLE AND SEBASTIAN If You're Feeling Sinister C21Z/C41J - 56713 Full price CD $10.98 list Cassette · SoundScanning 600 units a week · In July, Matador/Capitol will be releasing BELLE AND SEBASTIAN's much- anticipated new album. · Compilation of UK EPs in September The cult story of the year, the sporadically unavailable ex-Enclave debut by Glasgow's BELLE AND SEBASTIAN is a triumphantly melancholy folk-pop masterpiece. Layering Stuart Murdoch's plaintive vocals over twelve-string guitars, occasional brass and strings and a scattered, harmonied pulsing beat, BELLE AND SEBASTIAN's nine members weave a gorgeous tapestry of sound with nods to Nick Drake, Bridget St. John and Orange Juice. Now available again on Matador/Capitol, If You're Feeling Sinister has been SoundScanning 600 units a week with no radio, no tour and very limited availability. It has been been placing on every major year end list, however (see below). YEAR END POLLS: Village Voice Pazz & Jop Poll #8 Spin #18 Album of the Year CMJ 1997 Jackpot Album; #15 Top 200 '97 NME #22 Single of the Year "People don't just like Belle & Sebastian, they're hopelessly devoted to them. Among tonight's collection of hipsters, Habitat squares, C86 revivalists and out-patients, there are people who've trekked from America and Japan. Why? Because the Belle & Sebastian songbook is crammed with tales of feckless idealists who, although hemmed in by boorish reality, demand the earth. We've a diquieting sense that they harbour the sane, giddily romantic part of us that age has whittled away. And they make our compromised spirits soar anew." -- Melody Maker "Now with the Enclave defunct, the band has unsurprisingly become one of the most hotly sought-after acts around. Unfortunately, until an American licensing deal is signed, fans on this side of the Atlantic will have to look for future Belle and Sebastian releases in the import bins." -- CMJ "...these Scots couple chaste songs to subtle perversions... these sad, swoony songs [nick] everything from Nick Drake to bossa nova to Merseybeat..." -- Spin Matador & Capitol logo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Wed Mar 4 00:29:07 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 18:29:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Not B&S In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19980303182258.006bfd8c@pop.prism.gatech.edu> Message-ID: Ahhh! If I do the middle name + street pseudonym, I'm Margaret Mitchell, famed author of Gone With the Wind!! Can't wait to tell those bastards in my advanced fiction writing class!!! -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Ryanerik at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 00:49:58 1998 From: Ryanerik at xxx.com (Ryanerik) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 19:49:58 EST Subject: Sinister: curious juxtapositions Message-ID: <64be4998.34fca538@aol.com> Hi there, my name is Ryan, and I'm new to this mailing list. Im kinda new to B n S...anyway: I'm just saying hi. nice to meet you. Also, I've heard the BnS taped an episode of "Sessions at W. 54th St." or whatever its called. Has this aired yet?!?! It's on PBS here in America. Anyone have a tape of it?!?! buy. ryan. lemon lime sonora pine paradigm p.s. If anyone trades bootlegs let me know, Im really interested in getting some b n s shows. I have a tape of the radcliffe sessions but want (need) more! I trade other artists besides BnS (especially american indie pop bands). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gte107f at xxx.edu Wed Mar 4 01:18:03 1998 From: gte107f at xxx.edu (mayfly) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 20:18:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Fwd: Titanic rewritten Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980303201802.006fc2d4@pop.prism.gatech.edu> >>Many of you have seen the film "Titanic," which is about a great big >>boat that sank like a thousand years ago that for some reason everyone is >> just now getting worked up about. Some of you - I am speaking to the >>women here - have seen this movie several times. And I would like to >>know why. >> Have the principles of film-making not been adequately explained to >>you, so you think there's a chance the movie will end differently if you >>see it >> again? Do you think this is a "Choose Your Own Adventure" movie? >>Because it's not. No matter how many times you see it, the boat is >>going to sink, and >> thesame people are going to die, including the guy who falls and whacks >> his noggin on the railing on the way down. >>I think this movie is entirely too long. The actual sinking of the >>Titanic >> took only four hours; the movie is easily three times that long. (Note >> to reader: From the following choices, select the >>"this-movie-is-too-long" >> line you like best and go with it.) Savings bonds have matured in less >>time >> than it takes to watch this movie. Many marriages do not last as long >>as >> this movie. I had to shave twice during this movie. Three Eastern >>European >> nations (Izikikstan, Checher, and Zknkkmnzxxk) were formed while >>I was watching this movie.As a public service, then, I am offering my >>much-shortened >>screenplay which some ambitious film-maker can feel free to use as the >>script for a shorter version of "Titanic." All I want in return is a lot >>of >>money. >> (Scene 1) >> KATE WINSLET: Why, this is a fancy boat, isn't it? >> KATE'S WEASELLY FIANCE: Yes it certainly is. Here is the art you >> asked for. It is by an artist named "Picasso." I am certain he will >>amount to nothing. >>KATE: Ha ha ha. That is very funny to our 90's audience, >>because they know this priceless paintings will sink with the boat. >>LEONARDO DICAPRIO: Hello, I'm Leonardo DiCaprio. Perhaps you have >> seen the many Internet sites dedicated to the worship of me. You are >>very pretty. >>KATE: Thank you. So are you. >>LEONARDO: I know. Prettier than you, in fact. I am going to put >>on my "brooding" face now, to ensure that women will keep coming back >>again and again to see this movie. Later, my white shirt will be soaking >>wet. >>KATE: While you're doing that, I will concentrate on standing here >>and looking pretty, to keep the men in the audience interested until >>the boat sinks and people start dying. >> WEASELLY FIANCE: Excuse me. I do not like you, Leonardo, even >>though yousaved my fiancee's life. I am going to sneer at you and treat >>you like dirt because you're poor, and then I'll probably be physically >> >>abusive to my fiancee, and then, just to make sure the audience really >>hates >>me, and to make sure my character is entirely one-dimensional, perhaps >>I'll >>throw an elderly person into the water. >>AUDIENCE: Boo! We hate you! Even though all real people have at >>least a few admirable qualities, we have not been shown any of yours, >>and >>plus, you're trying to come between Leonardo and Kate, and so therefore >>we >>hate you! Boo! (Even though technically it is Leonardo who is coming >>between you and Kate. But Leonardo is handsomer than you, even though he >>is >>only 13, so we are on his side. Boo!) >> *** >> (Scene 2) >> LEONARDO: I'm glad we snuck away like this so that you could >>cheat on your fiance. >> KATE: So am I. Even though I am engaged to him and have made a >>commitmentto marry him, that is no reason why you and I cannot climb >>into the >>backseat of a car and steam up the windows together. The fact that I am >>the >> heroine of the movie will no doubt help the cattle-like audience >>forgive >>me of this, though they would probably be VERY angry indeed if my fiance >> >>were to do the same thing to me. >> AUDIENCE: Darn straight we would! Moo! We mean, Boo! >> LEONARDO: I agree. First, I would like to draw you, though, so of >>course you have to take off your clothes. >>KATE:But can a movie with five minutes of continuous nudity be >>at all successful in say, Provo, Utah, where the audiences might not >>stand >> for that sort of thing? >> LEONARDO: I would be willing to bet that for the first three weeks >> the film is in release, every single showing at Wynnsong Theater in >>Provo will sell out. >>NARRATOR: According to Wynnsong manager Matt Palmer, that is >>exactly what happened. >> KATE: All right, then. (sound of clothes hitting the floor) >> *** >> (Scene 3) >>FIRST MATE: Captain, we're about to hit an iceberg. >>CAPTAIN: Great, I could use some ice for my drink. (sound of >>drinking) >> ICEBERG: (hits boat) >> FIRST MATE: That can't be good. >> CAPTAIN: Bottoms up! >> AUDIENCE: (silence) >> FIRST MATE: That was irony, you fools. >> AUDIENCE: Baa! Moo! Where's Leonardo? >> *** >> (Scene 4) >> LEONARDO: I have been informed that this boat is sinking >> KATE: That is terrible >> LEONARDO: Would you like to engage in some more >>immoral-but-justified behavior? >> KATE: Certainly. >> WEASELLY FIANCE: (aside) I'm getting the raw end of the deal here: >>(to Leonardo) Listen, Leonardo, to cement my >>morally-dubious-yet-somehow-less-annoying-than-you personality, >>I am going to handcuff you to this pipe, here in a room that will soon >>be >>filling withwater, due to the fact that we are sinking, which I believe >>has >>been mentioned previously. >>LEONARDO: Why don't you just shoot me? >>WEASELLY FIANCE: Because then you wouldn't be able to escape >>and saveKate from me. Of course, you're going to die anyway- >>AUDIENCE: Don't spoil it for us! Boo! >>LEONARDO: He's right, though. I am doomed. >>AUDIENCE: Aww, look how cute he is when he's doomed. >>WEASELLY FIANCE: I hate you people. >> *** >>(Scene 5) >>150-YEAR-OLD-KATE: And that's when Leonardo rescued me from my >>evil fiance and helped me float on a board in the water. Of course, if >>it >> hadn't been for having to rescue HIM, I could have gotten on an actual >>lifeboat, and not frozen my legs nearly off. Anyway, he's pretty much >>dead >>now, and I'm well over a thousand years old, and who's making my >>supper? >>I need a bath. Turn down that Enya music, it's making my ears hurt. You >>kids >> today, with your loud music. Why, when I was - hey! Don't you walk away >> >>from me, Mr. Snooty-Patootie! I'd turn you over my knee, if I had one. >>I'll >>beat you in the head with this huge diamond! Come back here! >> >> (Fade to black; roll credits; play annoying Celine Dion song.) >> >>-- >>Chad White >>Check out my website! http://www.umr.edu/~ctw/ >>I am trying to get more of my pictures put on as time permits.... >>shoe size: 11 (10 UK) >> >> >> >>______________________________________________________ >>Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com >> > >-----youngdp at cs.unca.edu----The Student Formerly Known as Dr. Dave----- > "The following sentence is false. The preceding sentence is true." > -Epimenides Paradox expanded by Douglas R. > Hofstadter in GODEL, ESCHER, BACH > (I can't do umlauts, okay?) > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 01:34:40 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 01:34:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: No cheez pleez Message-ID: <199803040131.BAA06524@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> I hope this doesn't make me sound like a boring old shite (28 on Saturday), but are there any others of the 510(!) on the list who don't give a monkeys about dodgy '80s tune trivia quizzes? Is this quiz a plant on behalf of the music industry? Only they seem intent on marketing cheezy '80s compilations at present. Or is it that '80s tunes are the replacement to the now defunct Easy Listening revival of a couple years back. Some daft people are even attempting to run '80s clubs (a nightmare vision of Musical Youth mixed with Sonia and the like). oops! off on a tangent there! Kelly said: >When you tell people you're on the list, they make facesŠ Go forth and let them make faces! On the other hand I've found myself squirming when non-listees (more than likely uninterested in computers) are informed I'm on one. Honey Esq. kindly informed us: >Stuart Murdoch is interviewing Lawrence from FeltŠ asked me to >direct any of you who might have Lawrencesque questions re. Felt I'd be tempted to ask what the hell they thought they were doing when they made the 'Train Above The City' LP (pants keyboard driven lift music IMO) but I'm scared. Paul, still working on your tape, by the way. Sorry for delay. The Laird of East Fountainbridge. "An Egg is good for you" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 02:57:34 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1998 21:57:34 EST Subject: Sinister: wayward and cynical Message-ID: I left the spacious country manor in New Jersey to visit the bright lights of New York City Saturday night. Whilst spending too much money on records at Other Music I noticed something that might be of general interest: a Belle and Sebastian set list. The glorious object was tacked to the wall behind the cash register; the rays of light that emanated from it nearly blinded me. The only words I could decipher were "Fox In the Snow." I was a bit surprised that I could read those words at all--I thought it would have been written in Scottish. And all this talk of Stephin Merritt is making me feel more than a little bitter. Andy #3, and any other Sinisterettes that went to the Magnetic Fields show, as you walked into the Mercury Lounge you may have noticed a boy and girl crying, pawing at the door; they were only 19 and the club was 21+. Well, next to those frantic two, were listee Megan and I, also 19, huddled under her umbrella, looking sour, waiting for something--maybe the bouncer to shrivel into a peanut. He never did; we left. Back in November Mr. Murdoch's sexuality was discussed. My father wanted me to give him an email demonstration while he visited. I opened my inbox--to find waiting for both of us twenty or so emails with the subject "Sinister: Gay Stuart", which sounds, well, just sinister. My father and I have never mentioned that to each other; we ignored it, uncomfortably. I do not think that Stuart M. has any obligation to tell whether he is or isn't; it is his life afterall. And, sexuality is fluid. If he were to tell, either the entire female population or the entire male population of the list would be disappointed. (Wouldn't you rather have the hope?) The difference between Stuart M. and Morrissey or Dickon from Orlando is that Stuart has never made references, vague statements, in the press about being a fancy pirate. Morrissey and Dickon's careers thrive on the ambiguity and speculation; Stuart's career, especially after the decision to not do press, thrives on talent alone. Some men are just sensitive. What did Mystic Tag write about Geminis talking? ;-) Well, some of the other parts of the horoscope were true for me, but I refuse to say which ones. I was sore about being pared up with Oscar Wilde--he's dead afterall--but I noticed the other two of my match-ups--Bridgitte Bardot _and_ Chris Geddes. (Bridgitte, Chris, email me privately, and we'll set something up. Baby, it's in the stars). I'M GOING NOW, BYE!!! Ha ha! Just kidding! What I really mean is, Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From get_nice at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 03:00:05 1998 From: get_nice at xxx.com (chris berry) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:00:05 PST Subject: Sinister: ....what a great movie that'd be..... Message-ID: <19980304030005.10556.qmail@hotmail.com> ahhhh yasss like (hopefully) the rest of you, i didnt enjoy hollywoods latest disaster/blockbuster/cheesefest/epic about that boat that sank almost 100 yrs ago. i would have liked it w/ that script though. i couldnt believe the stupidity of the picasso scene. "picasso? what will he ever amount to?" hahahahahahaha! what fun! ugggghhhh. is this the future of movies? does anyone know b+s tour plans? will they tour when their new record comes out? thanks..............chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cj1530a at xxx.edu Wed Mar 4 03:37:42 1998 From: cj1530a at xxx.edu (boy sets fire) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 22:37:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Not B&S References: Message-ID: <34FCCC86.D448BACF@american.edu> in my neck of the woods, this wasnt the method for determining pseudonyms, it was for determing your porn star name... i absolutely love mine ... Douglas Chippenham. My friend Gregg has the bar none best ... Jonathan Hardwood... wonderful... anyways, thought i would just let everyone know. I'm so excited ... this local store in DC near me, the guy who works there is taping tigermilk and the 54th street sessions for me... wonderful. so ill hook people up with it if anyone wants it. :). bye bye. boy sets fire Schaffenberger wrote: > Ahhh! If I do the middle name + street pseudonym, I'm Margaret Mitchell, > famed author of Gone With the Wind!! Can't wait to tell those bastards > in my advanced fiction writing class!!! > > -Kristen > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From get_nice at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 03:36:13 1998 From: get_nice at xxx.com (chris berry) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 19:36:13 PST Subject: Sinister: i'd like more too Message-ID: <19980304033613.26293.qmail@hotmail.com> hullo "there no need to worry" "why's that stevie?" "cus we aint got school in the mornin' no no no-no" chris loves b+s and gzm too! (patio song is my favourite gzm song, sarah!) ...i wish i knew james lo i need more b+s! pleez, pleez, pleez, let me, let me (ok....i wont do it) but i would like somemore goodies. could anyone out there with a big heart tape stuff for me? i will definately try to return the favour! also......does anyone know when the el records tribute is due for release on le grand magistry? cant to hear all those bands.....esp rock ness monster! ciao for now..............chris ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sadeff at xxx.net Wed Mar 4 07:39:22 1998 From: sadeff at xxx.net (iOLO-sKA/Steven Adeff) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 23:39:22 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980303152837.0068dcac@194.238.147.3> Message-ID: <199803040741.HAA128806@out2.ibm.net> At 03:28 PM 3/3/98 +0000, Westminster Pupil: sha0801l wrote: >Hi to all, > If any of you people are feeling generous enough to copy TIGERMILK for me >I would love you forever. Any offers, mail me. and while ur at it if u could make me a copy I'd be very greatful! Steven Adeff SADEFF at IBM.NET http://merlin.kmsi.org/~iolo/ UIN:2717181 Birth, Copulation, and Death. That's all the facts when you come to brass tacks. T. S. Elliot ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Wed Mar 4 08:22:58 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 08:22:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Footsteps Message-ID: ..but Sarah, Did 'Footsteps following me' by Frances Nero have the same effect...? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Wed Mar 4 08:27:25 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 08:27:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: You Canadians... Message-ID: I suppose, Natalie, you Canadians would want lyricalquotes from Trans X, Kon Kan, Martha & the Muffins, Glass Tiger....or were these not hitmakers back home? Why did you have to inflict Celine Dion on us, though? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Wed Mar 4 08:31:25 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 08:31:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Felt Message-ID: Quite a few of you seem to like Felt and indeed Felt are mentioned in the sleevenotes to I.Y.F.S. I only heard a couple of their songs on Annie Nightingale's Sunday evening request show (a sad loss from Radio 1) but they made a real impression. How easy is it to get hold of their stuff? And is there a compilation available? Mark. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Wed Mar 4 08:38:51 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 08:38:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Not B&S -Reply Message-ID: There is another method of making pseudonyms, which is to take the name of your first pet and follow it with your mother's maiden name. Do any novelists come out of that? Incidentally I become EdwardPetersfield and Goldie Casemore...not especially exciting. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 08:47:58 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:47:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz (cont) Message-ID: <199803040842.IAA03362@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> 28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... Modern Romance - Best years of our life xx John >---------- >From: Stuart Gardiner[SMTP:skg21 at xxx.uk] >Sent: 03 March 1998 23:48 >To: Belle and Sebastian Mailing List >Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz (cont) > >These are what we've come up with so far between us, including a few >new ones... Not sure about a few of them... 28 is really annoying me! > >1) I need your love tonight, not just a hand to hold... >Body And Soul - Heart > >2) I must have left my house at eight because I always do... >The Day Before You Came - Abba > >3) Welcome to the great republic, guess I should show you round, where once >I was a king but now I am a clown... >4) Every night she walks right in my dreams since I met her from the >start... >5) She goes out every night 'til the morning is light, and she sleeps >all day... >6) Look at my hopes look at my dreams and the currency we've spent.... >Rent - Pet Shop Boys > >7) All your dreams help you forget, you ain't never danced a step... >King Of Rock And Roll - Prefab Sprout > >8) I can feel the earth begin to move, I hear my needle hit the groove >She Bangs The Drum - Stone Roses > >9) Why should it be, that my heart's under lock and I can't find the key... >10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... >You Lift Me Up - Thompson Twins > >11) You don't have to say you love me, you don't have to say you care... >You Don't Have To Say You Love Me - Dusty Springfield > >12) Nobody knows me, but I'm always there... >One In Ten - UB40 > >13) Arms intwined, the chosen few, the newspaper says.... it's true.... we >can break through.... >14) Out of my head to say the things I said, I didn't mean a word... >15) I said "a fine man", she said "So arrogant - I will decide where I go >or I don't go"... >Looking For Linda - Hue And Cry > >16) The tears I cry aren't tears of pain, they're all to hide my hidden >shame... >Human - The Human League > >17) I was standing, you were there, two world collided... >Never Tear Us Apart - INXS > >18) Laughing like children, living like lovers, rolling like thunder, under >the covers... >I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues - Elton John > >19) Subject me to the truth to the heartache and pain, until my mind is >twisted... >20) By a tree near a river there's a hole in the ground.... >The Riddle - Nik Kershaw > >21) I say I think I ought to go, she answers yes, but I say no... >I Got You Babe - ? > >22) Here it comes again, chugging like a train, round and round, the same >old tune... >Love Train - Holly Johnson > >23) I won't be here when you come home, I'm sorry if you don't understand >forgive me if you can... >24) You got style, that's what all the girls say... >Dress You Up - Madonna > >25) So now it's over, he's got a heart made out of stone... >26) Soldiers of fortune by some other name... >27) What's your definition of dirty baby, what do you consider >pornography.. >Sex - George Michael > >28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... >29) We're going to find a way, find a way to get a way, this time... >30) We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I... >Never Gonna Give You Up - Rick Astley > >31) P.E.R.S.P.E.C.T.I.V.E, is no mystery... >How Men Are - Aztec Camera > >32) A walk in the park can become a bad dream... >33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... >You Keep It All In - Beautiful South > >34) Nothing is certain in a changing world... >35) It's all the same, only the names have changed... >Dead Or Alive - Bon Jovi > >36) Tonight I need your sweet caress, hold me in the darkness, >Hands To Heaven - Breathe > >37) Take a look at me, wired to a machine... >Hyperactive - Thomas Dolby > >38) When the chips are down, I'll be around, with my undying death defying >love for you... >Power Of Love - Frankie Goes To Hollywood > >39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... >The Power Of Love - Huey Lewis And The News > >40) If you said jump I'd say "how high", if you said run I'd run and fly... >We Could Be Together - Debbie Gibson > >41) This could be the last time, I think I said that last time... >42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special >place... >Sweet Child Of Mine - Guns 'n' Roses > >43) You're out of time, and I'm out of my head when your not around... >44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a girl >like me... >I Want That Man - Debbie Harry > >45) Boys, now the times are changing the going could get rough... >46) There's only two things that you can't hide from - you and the ground >you're walking on... >47) And the music don't feel how it felt when I felt it with you... >Footsteps - Ashford And Simpson > >48) I went though some nights concerned by the shadows, I was crippled >emotionally >I Knew You Were Waiting For Me - George Michael & Aretha Franklin > >49) You're breathing in fumes I taste when we kiss... >? - Madonna > >50) Every time in rains, I have you here in my head... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Mar 4 09:29:11 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:29:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The BOBBY CHARIOT Memorial Hayride Message-ID: <01bd474f$fd8e6cc0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Tomorrow, Thursday, at 1800 hours GMT, a virtual shindig will be held within the tiny confines of the Sinister chat parlour. Your host will be Bobby Chariot. Everyone is welcome, but please bear in mind that it is a fancy dress affair. The theme is obese comedians, so please come dressed up as your favourite funnyman fatty. For copyright reasons Roy Kinnear is unavailable in the USA and Canada. Women must dress as Hattie Jaques in a nightie. Okay? Singer-songwriter Sturgeon Musgrave would be especially welcome. Oh, bloody sod yer then! BC ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Wed Mar 4 09:44:39 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 09:44:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Not B&S Message-ID: Body and Soul was Mai Tai not Heart. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cja1000 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 09:49:07 1998 From: cja1000 at xxx.uk (Chris) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:49:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S Message-ID: No, not really; low B&S content warning... Went to see Cornershop last night, during which they proved theselves to be an OK asian dance band and a very average pop band. Tjinder Singh didn't address one word to the audience throughout, not even Hello or Goodbye. And surely if Asha only charts when they speed it up a bit, then they should try and play it at a decent tempo.... However, the drummer and the bongo player went for it all night, and they did have a guy making peculiar electronic noises from the side of the stage. For you Cambridge sinisterettes, I stood next to the guy who walks around Sainsbury's with a carnation in his hair. That's a very B&S thing to do... Henry Dempster (porn) John Rosedale (not porn) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 09:48:42 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:48:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the hell) Message-ID: > >33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... > > ...'and all the things that've happened to me'... waaahhhh! what's the > next bit? What the hell is this? > Isn't it by The Beautiful South? You Keep It All In, I think it's called. I may quite possibly be wrong, though. Never mind. Keep on trying. > ByeBye, > Liz. > (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) > > ************************************************************* > > Love without hope, as when the young bird-catcher > Swept off his tall hat to the Squire's own daughter, > So let the imprisoned larks escape and fly > Singing about her head, as she rode by. > > Robert Graves > > ************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 4 10:07:15 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:07:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: No cheez pleez In-Reply-To: <199803040131.BAA06524@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, plaird wrote: > I hope this doesn't make me sound like a boring old shite (28 on > Saturday), but are there any others of the 510(!) on the list who > don't give a monkeys about dodgy '80s tune trivia quizzes? Got to say I have to agree - the replies are swamping the list. I was about to murmur something myself. Please could you send replies direct to the Stephen himself (Essexdog5 at aol.com) and if he must he can post occasional summaries. More than a few responses back to the list on something so far away from the list's intention as this just gets boring for a lot of us. Besides there have been at least 20 responses which equates to more than 10000 (work it out) mails sent out from my server for an 80s quiz. That's enough Huey Lewis and The News for me. And if you disagree I'll set Dina on you. If people want to do this sort of thing please ask for responses back privately and not to the list. Little reminder too for newcomers: for those who would like a recording of Tigermilk, Andrew Dean has agreed to coordinate. So PLEASE don't mail the list with requests, mail Andrew at koogydelbbog at yahoo.com. Honey aka Shirley Watton 1920s Porn Goddess ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 10:06:32 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:06:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Mayfly Message-ID: > The reviewer who made comparisons with the first Lilac Time album... > now that I can identify with! Has Duffy done anything lately? His > guest > appearance on "Western Wind" on St Etienne's Tiger bay album was the > last I heard of him and that was '94. > He had an album out a couple of years ago, and a lovely single called Sugar High. The lp got *mixed* reviews from the press. He was also hanging around with Alex James for a while, but I've no idea what he's up to at the moment. Probably still looking like he stepped out of an El Greco painting. > ByeBye, > Liz. > (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) > > ************************************************************* > > Love without hope, as when the young bird-catcher > Swept off his tall hat to the Squire's own daughter, > So let the imprisoned larks escape and fly > Singing about her head, as she rode by. > > Robert Graves > > ************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 10:17:20 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:17:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz (cont) Message-ID: > 25) So now it's over, he's got a heart made out of stone... > Cher? Heart of Stone? This is appalling. Perhaps I should have paid attention during the portion of the 80s I was in this country. Wot? No Duran Duran? > 28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... > 29) We're going to find a way, find a way to get a way, this time... > This one's really annoying me now. > ByeBye, > Liz. > (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) > > ************************************************************* > > Love without hope, as when the young bird-catcher > Swept off his tall hat to the Squire's own daughter, > So let the imprisoned larks escape and fly > Singing about her head, as she rode by. > > Robert Graves > > ************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 10:36:23 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:36:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Scab In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Sarah wrote: > EVERY STUDENT WALK OUT OF COLLEGE/UNIVERSITY ON WEDNESDAY!!! SHUT THEM > DOWN! (or just have a day off! i don't care about yer motives i give on > up on half of humanity, but just GO!) Hello. I'm a scab. Not wanting to get too policital on the list, the whole fucking strike is an empty shambles, and I've got too much work to do. Plus I'd just have to read through two days worth of Sinister tomorrow! Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message is respectfully dedicated to Mr Elias Howe who, in 1847, | invented the sewing machine. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 4 10:39:34 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:39:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Scab In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > On Mon, 2 Mar 1998, Sarah wrote: > > > EVERY STUDENT WALK OUT OF COLLEGE/UNIVERSITY ON WEDNESDAY!!! SHUT THEM > > DOWN! (or just have a day off! i don't care about yer motives i give on > > up on half of humanity, but just GO!) > > Hello. I'm a scab. > > Not wanting to get too policital on the list, the whole fucking strike is > an empty shambles, and I've got too much work to do. Stop this now please. I've made too many requests not to make statements that will automatically cause a slanging match on the list. Can I ask everyone to ignore this please - of course mail Rod privately if you want. Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 12:04:11 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:04:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: pop quiz lines Message-ID: <199803041204.MAA24251@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> um, yawn, my additions or corrections... 11) You don't have to say you love me, you don't have to say you care... is definitely not the Dusty classic, but instead some pop travesty by Transvision Vamp. Was it called 'I Don't Care'? 28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... This is the Best [Years / Days?] Of Our Lives by Modern Romance, a strikingly poor latin-influenced pop song by the group who grew out of the Leyton Buzzards, whose 'Saturday Night Benmeath The Plastic Palm Trees' wasn't very good either. their 'We Make A Noise' was also terrible, but sported a fetching cover of the ears being blown off an extremely uncomfortable-looking middle aged man. 29) We're going to find a way, find a way to get a way, this time... This Time, We'll Get It Right, by the England 1982 World Cup Squad. and they did, didn't they? 45) Boys, now the times are changing the going could get rough... I think that's Quiet Life by Japan, but could be wrong. 50) Every time in rains, I have you here in my head... Is that Cloudbusting by Kate Bush? It's that 'Everytime it rains' thing. Maybe it's a trick question... 51) Lip Up Fatty That's 'Lip Up Fatty' by Peter Miller and the Bobby Chariot Castanet and Spoons Orchestra. I think. By bye Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 12:07:11 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:07:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Not B&S In-Reply-To: <34FCCC86.D448BACF@american.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, boy sets fire wrote: > in my neck of the woods, this wasnt the method for determining > pseudonyms, it was for determing your porn star name... No, "Porn Star Names" are made up from the name of your first pet, along with your mother's maiden name. (And no pretending that you called your rabbit "Throbbing") Korky Robertson. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message is respectfully dedicated to Mr Elias Howe who, in 1847, | invented the sewing machine. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Mar 4 10:00:10 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:00:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Mayfly Message-ID: <01bd4754$51b6c780$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Mark Hester Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: martes 3 de marzo de 1998 19:57 Asunto: Sinister: Mayfly >It's interesting all these people describing B&S as folk-rock. Genres have >limited use, i know but I never thought of them as being that. The organ >on 'Mayfly sounds like 'Telstar' by the Tornadoes. But was anyone on >this list born when that came out..... not me, i missed it by 9 years. Since all this started up I've been dallying in the world of folk, and I think it's great. I also think that pop is folk and vice versa. I'm slowly working my way through all the people that make appearances in the Dick Drake biography. Very slowly, in fact. There's a nice folk section in this month's Mojo Magazine. I haven't read it yet because I'm reading about Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon". Fascinating stuff. >Re the name thing- a good way to come up with a good pseudonym is to >take the your middle name and follow it with the name of the first street >you lived in. Try it. All right. James Strawberry Lane. Sounds frankly ridiculous. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrewnic at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 12:33:37 1998 From: Andrewnic at xxx.com (Andrewnic) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:33:37 EST Subject: Sinister: Virgin (please) Message-ID: Went into Virgin in Princes Street yesterday in search of CDs and Jackie Chan videos. Lack of interesting CDs. Read interview with Ian Brown in back of Q. Ha ha. Laughed at blokes looking at jazz mags hidden inside a copy of NME. Read Melody Maker (hidden inside a copy of Playboy). Went downstairs to video department. Actually, fell downstairs to video department. Landed on me head. At least it was the softest part. Wandered round in circles for a bit. Bought "Drunken Master" (with a big wahey to Keith, who recommended it. Fantastic), "Police Story 3" and "The Full Monty" (which doesn't have Jackie Chan in it, but should have.) Anyway to get to the point - Virgin now have a release date of March 16th for B&S under the singles section. Ptchah! I asked the bloke behind the counter, and he said "Yeah. It's out. Definitely". Double ptchah! On my way out noted kangeroo playing jews harp and (unusually for this time of year) circling bluebirds. Andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrewnic at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 12:33:56 1998 From: Andrewnic at xxx.com (Andrewnic) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 07:33:56 EST Subject: Sinister: Back at the DHSS Message-ID: <8e2b476.34fd4a36@aol.com> In a message dated 03/03/1998 16:26:58 GMT, you write: << However, there are alternatives... as someone suggested recently, you could start a youth group. >> Or a band. And get paid to get up at 2pm, eat beans and watch Blackadder. Andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 12:43:17 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:43:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: a humnbe request Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F87D@RMF1> Dear List, Please help. I am so tired my eyelids feel as if they are filled with lead. I am at work and, as usual, have nothing to do. I have a lovely view of Tower bridge and the Canary Wharf (London) from my office window and I just want to daydream the afternoon away. what do you think would be a good B&S song ro daydream to or any other band for that matter or just send me something to keep me awake (plase no Eighties quizes) or a least to fill the vacuous space in my head. Yours truly, Huw P.S: has anybody got any iformation on Add N to (X). -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2133 bytes Desc: not available URL: From agnes.bonnet at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 13:06:00 1998 From: agnes.bonnet at xxx.com (agnes bonnet) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:06:00 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <00035C13.4556@labels.virginmusic.com> unsuscribe sinister ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: RE: Sinister: An Eighties Quiz! (Minimal B&S, but what the h Author: ELIZABETH DAPLYN at X-MAIL Date: 04/03/1998 9:48 > >33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... > > ...'and all the things that've happened to me'... waaahhhh! what's the > next bit? What the hell is this? > Isn't it by The Beautiful South? You Keep It All In, I think it's called. I may quite possibly be wrong, though. Never mind. Keep on trying. > ByeBye, > Liz. > (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) > > ************************************************************* > > Love without hope, as when the young bird-catcher > Swept off his tall hat to the Squire's own daughter, > So let the imprisoned larks escape and fly > Singing about her head, as she rode by. > > Robert Graves > > ************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 12:47:05 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:47:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Melody Maker next week Message-ID: Free in next week's Melody Maker is a set of stickers, one of which says "Belle & Sebastian ROCK MY WORLD" Just the thing for the discerning gentleman's pencil case. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | BubblegumPunkPopDiscoDon'tStop | Make a record in your home - You don't need a studio! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Wed Mar 4 12:10:43 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 12:10:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: curious juxtapositions References: <64be4998.34fca538@aol.com> Message-ID: <34FD44C3.5A265E18@virgin.net> Ryanerik wrote: > I'm just saying hi. nice to meet you. Also, I've heard the BnS taped an > episode of "Sessions at W. 54th St." or whatever its called. Has this aired > yet?!?! It's on PBS here in America. Anyone have a tape of it?!?! (I'm sure this would be in the archive somewhere, but anyway i 'spose that even though people have worked long and hard on the sites, doesn't mean that other people are going to use these valuable resources ... ooh, stop ranting Katrina!) ... the sessions @ west 54th will NOT be shown on tv in the states, or anywhere else in the rest of the world probably. oh well ... (i'll probably get into trouble for saying this, but anyway ... don't be disappointed that you won't get to see it) sorry everyone :( cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Wed Mar 4 13:03:07 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 13:03:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Virgin (please) References: Message-ID: <34FD510B.5E24F551@virgin.net> Andrewnic wrote: > > Went into Virgin in Princes Street yesterday in search of CDs and Jackie Chan > videos. Anyway to get to the point - Virgin now have a release date > of March 16th for B&S under the singles section. Ptchah! I asked the bloke > behind the counter, and he said "Yeah. It's out. Definitely". Double ptchah! To anyone who didn't pick up the sarcasm at the end of andrew's mail, don't panic! there will not be a B&S single until at least June-ish. Sorry. Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Wed Mar 4 13:15:13 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 4 Mar 98 13:15:13 Subject: Sinister: Intro/ Living the songs project: Dream of Horses Message-ID: <9803041812.AA8184@mail.irlgov.ie> 1. My first message (after a few weeks lurking). Somebody complained about new mailers praising B&S. I've been musically conscious since before the Beatles (hibernating a lot it in recent years) , and IYFS is one of the greatest refreshers for tired ears and brains of its time, up there with Astral Weeks, Stormbringer, After the Goldrush, Hissing of Summer Lawns. And what's wrong with starting off on that foot? 2. Re. Living the Songs: > John WIgham suggested turning tables in M&S. > Honey added a series of suggestions for living the songs. I didn't quite dream of horses but last Saturday the Irish Times racing section had a headline: "Dun Belle on Track". Obviously this was a message from God, who used to send messages as dreams at one time - see Bible or have a cup of tea with someone who's into Bible studies. I hadn't bet for years but how many B&Sers also read the ITimes racing section? The race was at 2.45 in Haydock, I put IR�5 each way on Dun Belle, and took my son to the park for an hour to leave Dun Belle in peace as he/she was making my fortune in faraway fields. Returned from the park, without looking back, to the bookies to find that Dun Belle was an also-ran. My son had to do without his lemonade as I only had the price of 5 pints left (joking!). There are 2 Marks and Spencers in Dublin, Ireland but I don't know if they have tables to turn. It would be cheaper than dreaming of horses. Martin C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From grthom at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 13:27:50 1998 From: grthom at xxx.uk (G R Thomas) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:27:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Where is everybody? Message-ID: Yo, Where is everybody? I haven't recieved any Sinister mails since Friday! If this is just a problem confined to my computer system then perhaps Paul can mail me with info as to what is going on, or if others are experiencing the same problems, then what's going on? Maybe someone somewhere could mail me to say what's goooin on? Oh well, "It's punk rock, innit, carry on, don't mind me..." GIDEONxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 13:34:49 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:34:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Virgin (please) Message-ID: <199803041329.NAA13759@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> If the new stuff comes out in June then why not have a launch picnic?? It would be an unusual way to promote a record and give a chance for wizened hacks to spend time with the band and the fans which would be good for them if not us. Some would doubtless write about what a joy it was to meet so many disparate individuals brought together by the power of the music. Others would write about what a hopeless bunch of indie-schmindie ne'er-do-wells we all were. But some people will never get it... We're so lucky!! xx John >---------- >From: Jeepster Recordings Ltd[SMTP:jeepster.uk at xxx.net] >Reply To: Jeepster Recordings Ltd >Sent: 04 Mar 1998 13:03 >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Re: Sinister: Virgin (please) > >Andrewnic wrote: >> >> Went into Virgin in Princes Street yesterday in search of CDs and Jackie >>Chan >> videos. Anyway to get to the point - Virgin now have a release date >> of March 16th for B&S under the singles section. Ptchah! I asked the bloke >> behind the counter, and he said "Yeah. It's out. Definitely". Double >>ptchah! > >To anyone who didn't pick up the sarcasm at the end of andrew's mail, >don't panic! there will not be a B&S single until at least June-ish. > >Sorry. > >Katrina. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From faw1 at xxx.edu Wed Mar 4 14:06:03 1998 From: faw1 at xxx.edu (Francisco Alberto Wong) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:06:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Not B&S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Mark Hester wrote: > Body and Soul was Mai Tai not Heart. > Was it not "Heart and Soul" by Mai Tai? francisco ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 14:06:33 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:06:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Where's my 3 day week Message-ID: <01bd4776$bc8d93f0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >If the new stuff comes out in June then why not have a launch picnic?? >It would be an unusual way to promote a record and give a chance for >wizened hacks to spend time with the band and the fans which would be >good for them if not us. > >Some would doubtless write about what a joy it was to meet so many >disparate individuals brought together by the power of the music. Others >would write about what a hopeless bunch of indie-schmindie >ne'er-do-wells we all were. But some people will never get it... That sounds like a cracking idea John, schedule the picnic with the release of the new single. Indeed we could sail on down the Thames and shoot the queen whilst we're at it too, that'd be quite a launch... seriously though, it seems like an appropriate time for it to me, given that it'll be the summer and stuff. Having said that, I'll be at the picnics whatever, single release dates are notoriously changeable and we may need to plan the picnic a bit more in advance. Cheers, Keith ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Wed Mar 4 14:20:00 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 08:20:00 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Not B&S In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Rod "Korky" Begbie wrote: > No, "Porn Star Names" are made up from the name of your first pet, along > with your mother's maiden name. > Ew, Snickers Brody. I have the worst name ever. Kelly Brody, the name of my second pet, isn't much better. -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From daeril at xxx.es Tue Mar 3 15:05:27 1998 From: daeril at xxx.es (Alberto Perez) Date: Tue, 03 Mar 1998 16:05:27 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Titanic is great! Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980303150527.0066eb3c@pop3.redestb.es> Just listen to the eco in the middle of the ocean... wow! and the water-resistent lights on the cabins when the ship is break in two! And those streboscopic-disco-underwater-effects!. Just a pitty that in my city there´s no disco as cool as Titanic! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Wed Mar 4 15:27:09 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 09:27:09 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: could this be your lucky day...?! Message-ID: Greetings sinisterines. I have recently been endowed with FIFTEEN (yes, that's 15) lovely Tiger's Milk bars. No, I did not make the foolish mistake of procuring this delicious treats for myself; let's just say they were a "gift." So, here's the deal: for any of you UK listees who may not have experienced the various flavors of Tiger's Milk (there's Honey--my personal favorite : )--and peanut butter and Extra Protein, whatever that means) please email me PRIVATELY (off the list) if you'd like me to mail you one. They're worth it for the wrapper alone, I think, and I've been told they make great wall decor and paperweights. Be forewarned though: these bars, despite the pleasant-sounding name, probably really taste more like, say, the record sleeve to a certain hard-to-find LP we are all familiar with. Yes, that's to say they linger like cardboard on the palate. So, the first lucky 15 respondents will have their very own Tiger's Milk in the mail. Just email me and I'll let you know if you're one of the privileged few! bye bye, AmandaSwannie ------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "My dear Amanda," intoned the family lawyer, "it has come to my attention that you are increasingly seen in the company of extremely weird individuals." --Tom Robbins, _Another Roadside Attraction_ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrewnic at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 15:39:31 1998 From: Andrewnic at xxx.com (Andrewnic) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 10:39:31 EST Subject: Sinister: Virgin (please) Message-ID: <45763622.34fd75b5@aol.com> In a message dated 04/03/1998 13:17:20 GMT, you write: << To anyone who didn't pick up the sarcasm at the end of andrew's mail, don't panic! there will not be a B&S single until at least June-ish. Sorry. Katrina. >> Yeah. Sorry. Thanks. Haven't got the hang of typing sarcasm. Andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jossleag at xxx.ie Wed Mar 4 16:24:22 1998 From: jossleag at xxx.ie (Joss & Leagues) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 16:24:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: not right indeed Message-ID: >11) You don't have to say you love me, you don't have to say you care... >you don't have to say you love me- dusty spring field >call me a nit-picker but i am sure that is not from the eighties... >Rachel. >the chorlton misress. Surely this was "baby I don't care" by Transvision Vamp? It's snowing outside. Yay! joss ______________________________________________________________________________ "it's yer Moorkens and yer Rogerson guy..." jossleag at iol.ie ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 16:40:33 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 11:40:33 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Crazy Little Party Girl Message-ID: <199803041143_MC2-3576-FD08@compuserve.com> Apparently MTV are recording Aaron Carter Unplugged. I'd certainly like to unplug that little f****r. Best wishes, DAVID ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 17:32:10 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:32:10 EST Subject: Sinister: Duffy Message-ID: <24b40541.34fd901d@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-04 05:16:11 EST, someone wrote: << Has Duffy done anything lately? >> He's got a new album coming out (which was actually recorded a long time ago.) See: http://www.bekkoame.or.jp/~marimari/duffy.html for all the Stephen Duffy/Lilac Time you could ever imagine existed - including info on the new Lilac Time album being recorded. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From itstrue at xxx.net Wed Mar 4 16:29:44 1998 From: itstrue at xxx.net (Reid Dossinger) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 12:29:44 -0400 Subject: Sinister: One that's been discussed before Message-ID: <34FD8178.2C70@earthlink.net> > Some men are just sensitive. Thank you, Matthew! Someone FINALLY said it! Why is it that every male pop star that shows an ounce of sensitivity and doesn't play on the most distorted guitar possible is automatically assumed (by the most conservative homophobe AS WELL AS the most out-of-the-closet flamer) to be gay?! Talk about enabling stereotypes! I hope Mr. Murdoch is straight, 'cause sissy heteros who like to dance and don't like to fight need heroes, too. ~Sissy Reid, who one day will get around to starting a discussion about the amazing number of times "girls deciding to date girls" theme comes up in Stuart M.'s lyrics. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 17:46:48 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:46:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Douglas Coupland Message-ID: <199803041251_MC2-3580-1C8D@compuserve.com> Thought you'd all like to know that the wonderful Mr Coupland's forthcoming novel is called Girlfriend in a Coma. That's about as cool as Donna Tartt's new book being called String Bean Jean. Lots of Love, DAVID PS I hate to be sacreligious, but I've got 5 Felt LPs and they're all pretty mediocre. I listen to my Miranda Sex Garden records more often, and that's saying something. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 17:53:07 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 12:53:07 EST Subject: Sinister: Duffy Message-ID: <287a9fc2.34fd9505@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-04 12:45:15 EST, Yummycats at aol.com writes: << << Has Duffy done anything lately? >> He's got a new album coming ou >> It's a great record. A number of slow acoustic sad songs where Stephen's voice is just heavenly. The last song, "one day one of these fucks will change your life" is quite epic as well. I'm glad someone's putting it out. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Mar 4 18:13:05 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:13:05 +0100 Subject: Sinister: you cheeky twat (NB&SC) Message-ID: <01bd4799$2e6b6340$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Hopkins T Para: 'sinister at majordomo.net' Fecha: miércoles 4 de marzo de 1998 14:38 Asunto: Sinister: pop quiz lines Timothy Puddles wrote: >51) Lip Up Fatty > >That's 'Lip Up Fatty' by Peter Miller and the Bobby Chariot Castanet and >Spoons Orchestra. I think. The word "castanet" appears in my 106 page die casting instruction maual. According to the European Union it means "damselfish". They must think I was born yesterday. "The Day Before You Came" by Abba is one of the best songs ever, and not at all cheesy. Every now and then I try to remember to have a bit of a think, and once I thought about how exactly that song works. It's very sad, but it's all kind of unarticulated. Perhaps that's it. Anyway, it's a beautiful song beautifully sung. It sounds like someone about to completely lose their grip and go round the twist. That last sentence may well have been influenced by my reading about Pink Floyd. Huw, it sounds to me as if the music you are looking for is either Pink Floyd's timeless masterpiece "Dark Side of the Moon" or "Bucket T" by The Who, one of the extra tracks on "A Quick One". It certainly set me off daydreaming a few minutes ago. It would make an excellent theme tune for the forthcoming Bobby Chariot television special. Melon Mainprize Family history (NB&SC) (Melon was a canary. He was called Lemon until we realised he wasn't going to go yellow. Mainprize means either "man prised from the sea" (my Aunty Iris's daft theory) or "ransom" (my own sensible, carefully documented theory). Everyone believes Aunty Iris. It's a nice name though, nicer than my own, Chariot). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Wed Mar 4 18:27:12 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:27:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: porn star galore In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Schaffenberger wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Rod "Korky" Begbie wrote: > > > No, "Porn Star Names" are made up from the name of your first pet, along > > with your mother's maiden name. > > > Ew, Snickers Brody. I have the worst name ever. Kelly Brody, the name > of my second pet, isn't much better. > well mine ends up being frisky gallagher! roberta ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Wed Mar 4 18:32:13 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 13:32:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: willy wonka Message-ID: its is very strange to see the previous days postings about charlie and the chocolate factory..especially after sitting home sick on friday or saturday..i cant remember which and watching the film yet again..plus on 'dawson's creek' (yes i know..a teenybopper soap opera delight) one of the main characters was made fun of as a child and was called oompa loompa.. has anyone heard the smoking popes cover or 'pure imagination' its a lovely song..perhaps the best bit on seeing them in concert when they opened for mozzer. roberta **oh you look so tired mouth slack and wide ill-housed and ill-advised your face is as mean as your life has been crash into my arms i want you****** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pasty at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 02:51:42 1998 From: pasty at xxx.com (JOSEPH FOSTER) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 18:51:42 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Whilst on the subject of dreams Message-ID: <34FE133E.658C@geocities.com> OK, here is another B&S dream related thing! Last week I had a dream where I was casually looking through a copy of the sun, and they had a top 20 albums poll and Tigermilk was no.1. Could someone please tell me what the frount cover looks like, I don't know. In my dream it was a black pattern on red, and may have looked a bit like the cover of 'Gold Against The Soul'. Ok Bye. ############################# # # # Have you got a light, # # Mac? # # # # No, but I've got a dark # # brown overcoat. # # # ############################# ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Wed Mar 4 18:54:18 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 18:54:18 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980304185418.007a6760@mail.tcd.ie> Only eighties relevance, I'm amazed at the amount of people that knew it was Breathe- Hands to Heaven. Thank god I wasn't the only one. from, Moira Cherry Tree View. (Not really a good combination, is it) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ButchDone at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 19:01:09 1998 From: ButchDone at xxx.com (ButchDone) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 14:01:09 EST Subject: Sinister: 80's Quiz Message-ID: <4d6dfcde.34fda4f7@aol.com> Stuart Gardiner wrote..... <> I'm ashamed to say I know this one, look i'm new here don't be too hard on me. <<28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... >> ...... "Woah, I look into your eyes, woah, best years of our lives". It is indeed, "Best Years of Our Lives" by Modern Romance. Sorry. It was played at every school disco I went to in the early eighties, that and Come on Eileen. Oh and the Birdie Song as well. <<45) Boys, now the times are changing the going could get rough... >> I'll redeam myself though and say that this is "Quiet Life" by Japan. A damn fine song which remains a favourite of mine to this day. Before all you old gits out there take the piss, it's the only Japan song I like. Personally no13 in driving me mad, I just now it's gonna be something i've got in my collection. I keep thing Talk Talk, the quote sounds like one of their lyrics. It'll turn out to be Queen though knowing my luck, just to embarass me further. Bye for now i'm off to be punished for knowing the answer to No 28 Gary ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MFKX7HVB at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 19:40:30 1998 From: MFKX7HVB at xxx.uk (Henry) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 19:40:30 gmt0bst Subject: Sinister: The REAL "Little Prince" Message-ID: <1C95B06116@orpheus.man.ac.uk> Firstly, hello everyone, I'm new to the list. Glancing through the archive I saw talk of "the little prince" which reminded me of the completely wonderful book of the same name. All B+S fans will love it and since its so short it takes only an hour or so to read. Also, the little prince looks just like the boy on the b+s T-shirts. He lives on a planet thats very small (about the size of a house) and has three volcanoes which he cleans out regularly (even the extinct one because "one can never be sure") and cooks his breakfast on. When he visits Earth he makes friends with a FOX! And , OH I want to tell you all about it but I won't - read the book, its delightful and charming. I think its by a frenchman called Antoine de Saint Expuory or something, and Peter Ustinov did a very good story tape of it which I used to listen to as a kid. anyone else like Zappa? **To see the summer sky is poetry though never in a book it lie true poems flee ** Emily dickinson. bye bye ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mick at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 20:05:39 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:05:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: One that's been discussed before References: <34FD8178.2C70@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <34FDB413.56A507A6@indiepop.com> Reid Dossinger wrote: > > Some men are just sensitive. > > Thank you, Matthew! Someone FINALLY said it! Why is it that every male pop star that > shows an ounce of sensitivity and doesn't play on the most distorted guitar possible is > automatically assumed (by the most conservative homophobe AS WELL AS the most > out-of-the-closet flamer) to be gay?! Talk about enabling stereotypes! I hope Mr. > Murdoch is straight, 'cause sissy heteros who like to dance and don't like to fight need > heroes, too. Not really. No one ever accused Rob Wratten of the Field Mice of being gay, and the Field Mice even wrote a song called Sensitive. I think if a lyricist is going to flirt with the same-sex lyrics, he or she is sure to be in for accusations. Still, I don't think that should stop anyone. I think that a song about a man loving a man is certainly more refreshing than one about a man loving a woman, or vice versa. Not to say some of my favorite songs haven't been about a man loving a woman, but in a perfect world, there would be shining examples of both, and all the other possibilites therein. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane Wed Mar 4 20:00:41 1998 From: nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane (nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 98 15:00:41 EST Subject: Sinister: Douglas Coupland Message-ID: From: Ruth McCurry <100670.3522 at xxx.com>, on 3/4/98 12:46 PM: Thought you'd all like to know that the wonderful Mr Coupland's forthcoming novel is called Girlfriend in a Coma. I saw it in a bookstore today and had to read the back - no Smith's reference - but she is in coma for 20 years...I know, I know, it's serious....... ------------- Original Text From: Ruth McCurry <100670.3522 at xxx.com>, on 3/4/98 12:46 PM: Thought you'd all like to know that the wonderful Mr Coupland's forthcoming novel is called Girlfriend in a Coma. That's about as cool as Donna Tartt's new book being called String Bean Jean. Lots of Love, DAVID PS I hate to be sacreligious, but I've got 5 Felt LPs and they're all pretty mediocre. I listen to my Miranda Sex Garden records more often, and that's saying something. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Mar 4 19:23:15 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 19:23:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Where's my 3 day week References: <01bd4776$bc8d93f0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <34FDAA23.FFE7CA26@totalweb.co.uk> Keith Watson wrote: > > >If the new stuff comes out in June then why not have a launch picnic?? > >It would be an unusual way to promote a record and give a chance for > >wizened hacks to spend time with the band and the fans which would be > >good for them if not us. > > > >Some would doubtless write about what a joy it was to meet so many > >disparate individuals brought together by the power of the music. Others > >would write about what a hopeless bunch of indie-schmindie > >ne'er-do-wells we all were. But some people will never get it... > > That sounds like a cracking idea John, schedule the picnic with the release > of the new single. Indeed we could sail on down the Thames and shoot the > queen whilst we're at it too, that'd be quite a launch... we could top it of by making a 30ft high clay model of stuart murdoch and the band and send them up and down outside the houses of parliament on a raft whilst we picnic at the bottom and play twister. > seriously though, > it seems like an appropriate time for it to me, given that it'll be the > summer and stuff. Having said that, I'll be at the picnics whatever, single > release dates are notoriously changeable and we may need to plan the picnic > a bit more in advance. 1st Picnic will be on May Day, Which for those of you who are lazy is Monday the 4th May. 2nd Picnic will be either 24th May (Sunday) or 7th June (Sunday). I would be grateful if people told me which of the second option is preferable. Other picnics will be organised as we progress into summer. The Picnics will be held on Primrose Hill, and to risk being overly organised, we'll meet at 2pm at Camden Town Tube Station. Fine by everyone? Bring a game, some food, drinks and a sense of ironic humour i think. > > Cheers, > Keith > -- ******************************************************************** http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From college at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 22:30:35 1998 From: college at xxx.com (TonyK) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 14:30:35 -0800 Subject: Sinister: SoCal contingent References: <01bd4776$bc8d93f0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> <34FDAA23.FFE7CA26@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: <34FDD60A.81B4CDA4@aliasrecords.com> I know it's frightfully unfashionable to live in Los Angeles, but are there any Angelenos out there in sinister land? I haven't heard anyone mention the possibility of an LA picnic, so allow me. A picnic in Griffith Park could be fun if El Nino doesn't play one of its childish pranks. We could pretend we're in Rebel Without a Cause. But I guess I'm getting ahead of myself... Snausages, TonyK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 23:03:47 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:03:47 EST Subject: Sinister: Douglas Coupland Message-ID: <796ac246.34fdddd5@aol.com> In a message dated 3/4/98 6:05:58PM, you write: << Thought you'd all like to know that the wonderful Mr Coupland's forthcoming novel is called Girlfriend in a Coma. That's about as cool as Donna Tartt's new book being called String Bean Jean. >> Or Paul Auster's next novel going under the title of You Made Me Forget My Dreams. NB - I'm posting the full '80s quiz answers tomorrow. Thanks for all your help, and apologies to Monsieur Mitchell for list cluttery - I has assumed any answers would be mailed direct to my good self. Hey-ho, and such is life. Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From college at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 23:17:15 1998 From: college at xxx.com (TonyK) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 15:17:15 -0800 Subject: Sinister: curious juxtapositions References: <64be4998.34fca538@aol.com> Message-ID: <34FDE0FA.27B648B7@aliasrecords.com> I don't know if this is true or not, but I heard that the Sessions at West 54th episode with B&S was scratched. Apparently, the TV people weren't very happy with the performance. I know they taped it during the week they were in New York for CMJ and word was, it was originally scheduled to air in December. -TonyK > Also, I've heard the BnS taped an > episode of "Sessions at W. 54th St." or whatever its called. Has this aired > yet?!?! It's on PBS here in America. Anyone have a tape of it?!?! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Mar 4 23:37:39 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 18:37:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Telstar Message-ID: <199803041838_MC2-358D-74D5@compuserve.com> Hi All Mark Hester wrote: " The organ on 'Mayfly sounds like 'Telstar' by the Tornadoes. But was anyone on this list born when that came out..... not me, i missed it by 9 years." My copy of Telstar (b/w "Jungle Fever"!) came out in 1962, which would have made me 6 years old at the time. Do I win a prize? For me, this is one of the added attractions of listening to B & S. Not only do you get brilliant tunes, superb musicianship, witty/weird/cute/moving lyrics ( delete as applicable) but you also get snatches from all the things that the band members have listened to whilst growing up. As well as all the usual influences mentioned, like Nick Drake, Love, Donovan, Dylan, etc. I can also hear The Incredible String Band, and believe it or not, Yes. At my age I also get to dance round the room to String Bean Jean with my 12 year old son and to really enjoy B & S gigs with my 19 year old daughter. Keep the faith David Moore Chelmsford, UK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From horst at aptness.com.br Wed Mar 4 23:16:06 1998 From: horst at aptness.com.br (João Henrique Horst) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 20:16:06 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Felt Message-ID: <199803042316.UAA06541@dalila.aptness.com.br> Cherry Red Records re-issued in 1992 "The Strange Idols Pattern And Other Short Stories", originally released in 1984, produced by John Leckie (producer of almost everything The Stone Roses recorded)+ 1985's "Ignite The Seven Cannons" (which was produced by Cocteau Twin Robin Guthrie and includes the famous 'Primitive Painters', sang with the help of other twin Liz Fraser [what a coincidence]. As for the place you could find it (I forgot to tell you that both albums were re-packaged as one) I wouldn't dare saying that mine was found at a creepy store in Copacabana, Rio de Janeiro, lost among The Dream Academy and The Waterboy's gems (I bought them all. Expensive ? Oh, no, no, just picture that "Made in England" seal) As far as I know, and have seen on The Felt and Denim Homepage (http://www.jeigh.com.felt), there are 3 Felt compilations: Bubblegum Perfume (Creation 1990); Absolute Classic Masterpieces (Cherry Red 1992); Absolute Classic Masterpieces Volume II (Creation 1992), not to mention The Felt Box Set (Cherry Red Records 1993- 4 cds) Hope I've helped a bit. Adios, Jh .............................................. "We might as well all stay in our rooms until we die" ......................................................... Mark Hester wrote: >Quite a few of you seem to like Felt and indeed Felt are mentioned in the >sleevenotes to I.Y.F.S. I only heard a couple of their songs on Annie >Nightingale's Sunday evening request show (a sad loss from Radio 1) >but they made a real impression. How easy is it to get hold of their stuff? >And is there a compilation available? > >Mark. > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 00:22:22 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 98 00:22:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: wayward and cynical Message-ID: <199803050019.AAA13688@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Matthew makes a blunder: >The only words I could decipher were "Fox In the Snow." I was a bit >surprised that I could read those words at all--I thought it would >have been written in Scottish. Erm, we do write in English over here. By 'Scottish' you mean Gaelic, no? Or did you think it should be written in a charming Glaswegian accent? :o) >a fancy pirate is that like a Dandy Highwayman? (apologies for the'80s reference). Clever John said: >If the new stuff comes out in June then why not have a launch picnic?? >It would be an unusual way to promote a record and give a chance for >wizened hacks to spend time with the band and the fans which would be >good for them if not us. Maybe the NME could send along Mr Wells again so everyone could pelt him with picnic stuff (or just kick the crap out of him). Then he could write about how "punk" the whole event was. > No, "Porn Star Names" are made up from the name of your first pet, along > with your mother's maiden name. my porn name: Digger Levine - I could live with that! Bye now, The Laird of East Fountainbridge ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 01:20:44 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 17:20:44 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: wayward and cynical Message-ID: >Matthew makes a blunder: >>The only words I could decipher were "Fox In the Snow." I was a bit >>surprised that I could read those words at all--I thought it would >>have been written in Scottish. > >Erm, we do write in English over here. By 'Scottish' you mean >Gaelic, no? Or did you think it should be written in a charming >Glaswegian accent? :o) >------------------------------ Heeeheehhaaahaaa! That reminds me of being at someone's flat a ton of years ago, listening to The Jesus & Mary Chain...and someone saying "they have Southern accents...are they from Texas or something?" And my mate Ginny saying "no dumbass...they're from Scotland." And the person saying "what language do they speak in Scotland?" riot. lalala beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 01:43:14 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Rob B) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 01:43:14 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: tangerines In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, baggy trousers wrote: > On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Schaffenberger wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Rod "Korky" Begbie wrote: > > > > > No, "Porn Star Names" are made up from the name of your first pet, along > > > with your mother's maiden name. > > > > > Ew, Snickers Brody. I have the worst name ever. Kelly Brody, the name > > of my second pet, isn't much better. > > > well mine ends up being frisky gallagher! > > roberta > Malaicha Wilson... hmmm, maybe not. Bought the new Trembling Blue Stars CD today. It's got some absolutely gorgeous songs on it, which outshine much of the first album, which is truly great. Buy it now! The picnics are just such a good idea - would we be able to persuade any of the band to come along? Just a thought... I'm sure they appreciate a picnic as much as the rest of us. Wow, it's getting crowded on this list now isn't it - over 500 people! How many before your computer explodes, Paul? Haven't been to the chat room for ages. In fact I might go and see who's there now, so byeee! rob xx P.S. to clear up the sensitive/gay debate, i just went to Rod's website, and had a go on the lurve calculator - and discovered, much to my surprise, that Stuart Murdoch loves having sex with men 93% So that's that sorted then. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Weiland643 at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 02:14:17 1998 From: Weiland643 at xxx.com (Weiland643) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:14:17 EST Subject: Sinister: BELLE Message-ID: <51c15b39.34fe0a81@aol.com> think real hard and reply to this: why doesnt anyone care about me? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Jeni421 at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 02:56:34 1998 From: Jeni421 at xxx.com (Jeni421) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 21:56:34 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: wayward and cynical Message-ID: In a message dated 98-03-04 19:35:05 EST, you write: << No, "Porn Star Names" are made up from the name of your first pet, along > with your mother's maiden name. >> In that case my name would be Wart Adelaide???? I think I'll stick with my middle name and the first street I lived on. Lee Canterbury. Far better don't you agree??? P.S. : I didn't name that poor dog Wart, my parents did. A bad name for a Weimeriener, isn't it? Jeni ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 03:02:20 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:02:20 EST Subject: Sinister: arm in arm Message-ID: <3c78c051.34fe15be@aol.com> Mick Mick McMick McMick wrote: <> No one has ever accused Rob Wratten of being gay because nearly all his songs are about loving/not loving women. He wrote "Sensitive" but that is about being, erm, sensitive, not about fancying men. In the notable exceptions in the Wratten song library are "Song Six", again about being a sensitive male in this brutal world; "This Love Is Not Wrong", about any non-straight romance generally, but includes the line "Says one woman to another"; and "So Said Kay" which is about two women again. I can not think of any others. Stuart M. wrote "Seeing Other People" using the first person, putting himself in the situation of "practicing" kissing other boys. The use of first person is going to lead people to assume that this really happened to Stuart. Of course, no one assumes that Stuart really met a major that he could not see eye to eye with. Although, I believe that Stuart conceded that some situation like the one in "SOP" really happened, how do we know it did? He is a song_writer_ afterall. If Rob Wratten were to write a song about kissing a man, then he probably would be asked if he were gay (and what would Annemari say!). Well, my original point was that Stuart's sexuality is his own personal business; he has the right not to tell since it is his own life. I often think that the entire notion of sexuality is bunk anyway; those things can change in a person's life. Too much importance is placed on whom one wants to love. I just want to hear songs about love; songs that make me tremble; songs that make me want to shed a tear. "If the sun going down makes me want to cry, why should I not like the way I am?" --the Field Mice, "Sensitive" Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ChknQQdl at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 03:10:56 1998 From: ChknQQdl at xxx.com (ChknQQdl) Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1998 22:10:56 EST Subject: Sinister: how you really get porn star names Message-ID: <78b85c47.34fe17c2@aol.com> No, how you really get porn star names is your middle name plus your teddy bear's name....in which case mine is Pham Marmaduke...what a horrible name! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From yu173188 at xxx.ca Thu Mar 5 04:23:06 1998 From: yu173188 at xxx.ca (la femme d'argent) Date: Wed, 04 Mar 1998 23:23:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: l.o.v.e. In-Reply-To: <34FC0B45.1995@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980304232306.006934f4@postoffice.yorku.ca> brad wrote: <> that's a very philosophical question, one that might never be answered since it is so complex. however, we can pinpoint what *you* think is wrong with you. so have it out. <> well, we tend to buy into things quite easily. the media makes us very susceptible to believing the images that get propagated to us everyday. so don't believe a calculator, unless we've hit on one of things wrong with you :-) <> if you believe you will, then chances are you will. if you don't do anything about it, then well you won't. pvc and barbed wire...do you picture yourself in pvc or someone else? cos then we can hit on if you are a sadist or a masochist...or both...you might like to overpower or be submissive. sometimes people can be both. i know i just like the look of pvc on anyone, barbed wire would hurt, so i don't think i would like that too much. <> i thought they were all horny. ha ha. no i kind of like the spice girls, in a really gulity sort of pleasurable way. i've even had spice girls dreams, sorry sinisters no B&S dreams as of yet. i've had dreams of pulp, blur and radiohead if anyone cares. < <> i can't answer the first two questions, but cheesus christs? oh dear indeed. -- a*n*d*r*e*a. "ars longo, vita brevis est." try it, you might like it -- but you might sssmudge your lipstick. check out to see if you're still alive, talking dirt won't change your life. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Ryanerik at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 08:46:59 1998 From: Ryanerik at xxx.com (Ryanerik) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:46:59 EST Subject: Sinister: how you really get porn star names Message-ID: <68bf261a.34fe6685@aol.com> >>No, how you really get porn star names is your middle name plus your teddy >>bear's name....in which case mine is Pham Marmaduke...what a horrible name! I've always heard that's how you get drag queen names too. either way, going by the pet's name/ maiden name method... I'm Duke Scmidt. I'd say that's a pretty good drag or porno name. beat that! woob woob ryan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 09:39:20 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 09:39:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Visions of China Message-ID: <01bd481a$92c84570$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I'll redeam myself though and say that this is "Quiet Life" by Japan. A damn >fine song which remains a favourite of mine to this day. Before all you old >gits out there take the piss, it's the only Japan song I like. I dunno, I think that's unfair, Japan have quite a lot of good songs... prententiously named good songs, but good songs none the less, "Sons of Pioneers" and "Still life in Mobile Homes" are great, and frankly Japan are a whole lot better and less cheesy than they look, in my cheesy opinion. True they looked like a load of tossers though. There's a really good compilation album available, called I believe "Gentlemen take polaroids" but in true shit fashion, the CD's got the best tracks not on it. The double LP is a better bet, and it's probably about 3 quid in a second hand shop. in fact, Japan rule! Cheers, Keith... doing it for the kids. ;-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 10:22:24 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:22:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Wowzers Cavey !!! Message-ID: <01BD4820.9BD4A680@pc07628> On the basis that all those on the list clearly have access to a pc, and many of those will, like myself, be required to use a pc as part of the daily grind. Howzabout those funny Jeepsterpeeps churning out some B&S mousemats ? A sad and tacky piece of merchandise it would be, granted. But I need a mousemat, and I like totally refuse to go into town and purchase some twattish thing with a picture of Tom and Jerry, or Tweety-Pie on it. Arse ! Adey-suit. aka Lucy Croxford (Not very Porn Rod). aka Anthony Barley-Mount (Fat pompous Tory Bigot (Sorry Mr North)). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickdastoor at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 10:26:20 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 02:26:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: M'aidez! M'aidez! Message-ID: <19980305102620.5008.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> ---David & Katrina wrote: > 1st Picnic will be on May Day, Which for those of you who are lazy is Monday the 4th May. Only for those who are so lazy that it takes them three days to get out of bed. 4th May may be the bank holiday but 1st May is my birthday and will always be the real May Day in my eyes But really I say YAY and skip around like a moron attracting the attention of various IT consulants in the vicinity. Picnic picnic picnic. > 2nd Picnic will be either 24th May (Sunday) or 7th June (Sunday). > I would be grateful if people told me which of the second option is preferable. This is all too much. It's picnic heaven. And all so organised. I have no preference - which day will be sunnier? > Other picnics will be organised as we progress into summer. Stop, it's too much for a young boy with a heart murmur. > The Picnics will be held on Primrose Hill, and to risk being overly organised, we'll meet at 2pm at Camden Town Tube Station. Hmm... back down to earth. I've always found Camden Town Tube Station is a very depressing place to meet people. The only people I ever meet there are drunks who take all my cigarettes. > Bring a game, some food, drinks and a sense of ironic humour i think. Surely we need to be better co-ordinated than this, Katrina. What if everyone turns up with Swingball? Or we end up with nothing but Dandelion and Burdock to drink? Or endless packets of barbeque beef crisps? We'll all be sick. Also, we need to ensure a wide selection of ironic senses of humour is brought, or else we'll all be telling the same jokes all day. > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? Yes yes YES. Nickadoodledoo _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickdastoor at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 11:02:30 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:02:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Intro/ Living the songs project: Dream of Horses Message-ID: <19980305110230.19557.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> ---Martin Conneely wrote: > > 1. My first message (after a few weeks lurking). > Somebody complained about new mailers praising B&S. I've been musically > conscious > since before the Beatles (hibernating a lot it in recent years) , and IYFS is > one of the greatest > refreshers for tired ears and brains of its time, up there with Astral Weeks, > Stormbringer, After the Goldrush, > Hissing of Summer Lawns. And what's wrong with starting off on that foot? Nothing at all. Hoorah for Martin and Amanda's dad. I think there must be some self-loathing in me, because I think the only age group I don't get excited about being fanatical about Belle & Sebastian is my own (mid-20's, used to be into the Smiths). The young and the old are much better. I have no idea what Stormbringer is, but I'm sure it rocks like a beast. There used to be a bearded Maths teacher at school who'd lost interest in rock since Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin et al. The only modern band he liked was The Smiths. I felt vindicated. Thinking about it, maths teachers had quite an effect on my musically formative years There was another one called Mr Jenkins who was a bit of a an in-with-the-kids type. He had a PhD in Music too, and claimed to like pop music. But one day we had a heated argument about the merits of pop vs. classical and he said that in thirty years I wouldn't be very interested in pop and certainly not the records I liked when I was fourteen (The Smiths etc.). Ten years on, I'm still digging my heels in. And then there was _another_ maths teacher who was actually the deputy head, who told me as I left school that lots of people like me who give the impression of wanting to be remembered for their art end up going into accountancy. I think he meant it in a wistful, encouraging way, but I didn't take it too kindly. He's probably right, I realise now. If you're not actually any artist of any sort then one job's probably no more intrinsically heinous than another. It's just that some are paid better. And I suppose with some you get to work with nicer people than others. And some are moral. But other that that kids, don't follow in my stubborn footsteps - become accountants. Don't be afraid. I enjoyed your horse tale, Martin. But God doesn't smile upon those after a quick buck. In fact he drops delibarate red herrings to make them look foolish. The devil is a better bet for gambling tips. A horse called "Fashion Victim" ran at a meeting hours after Versace was shot. It came in first at 20-1. Does your son like Belle & Sebastian? Nick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickdastoor at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 11:23:04 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 03:23:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Telstar Message-ID: <19980305112304.16841.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> > My copy of Telstar (b/w "Jungle Fever"!) came out in 1962, which would have made me 6 years old at the time. More old folk - triple hurrah! All this Telstar talk has inpsired me to do a silly thing and make a list of all the "That song sounds just like that" comments I can recall or have come up with myself. So: Mayfly...'Telstar' - The Tornados Dog on wheels...'Alone again or' - Love Seeing other people... Peanuts theme by whoever Lazy line painter Jane... 'I can't stand it' - Velvet Underground (the intro, anyway - listen to it) Slow graffiti... 'The laughing gnome' - David Bowie The stars of track and field...'Shangri-La' - The Kinks The Boy done wrong again...'Pink moon' - Nick Drake (well he had to go somewhere) Hmmm.. haven't quite completed the Donovan Lovedrake triangle. Can anyone suggest a plausible Donovan song? Or any other daft comparisons? I think someone once came up with one for 'Le Pastie.." that I really couldn't see myself, but I've forgotten it. Sudden thought: people might get angry with me for doing this. Please understand that I mean no harm, am rarely seen sporting a cagoul, and don't think for one minute that Belle & Sebastian are shameless plagiarists who need exposing. This is my new defence against flaming - come over so wet in the original post that that the flames can't catch. Nick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 12:35:04 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 12:35:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: porn star names References: <68bf261a.34fe6685@aol.com> Message-ID: <34FE9BF8.55A6ED56@easynet.co.uk> Before marrying Trevor Turton at Attercliffe registry office, my mother went by the charming name of Beryl Twattroubler. For her eighth birthday, my kid sister was given a spaniel, which she proceeded to name Spunky. See ? It's all bobbins. These things NEVER work. yerluvinuncleTurt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mick at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 14:05:32 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 09:05:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sound-alikes References: <19980305112304.16841.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <34FEB12C.AFA16E8B@indiepop.com> Nick Dastoor wrote: > Seeing other people... Peanuts theme by whoever I'm not the only one who thinks this? A friend and I were so nostalgic after I taped him the song that we rented one of the Peanuts movies. The composer's name is Vince Guiraldi though I always misspell it. > Sudden thought: people might get angry with me for doing this. Please > understand that I mean no harm, am rarely seen sporting a cagoul, and > don't think for one minute that Belle & Sebastian are shameless > plagiarists who need exposing. This is my new defence against flaming > - come over so wet in the original post that that the flames can't > catch. A friend of mine was in a band that eventually many people in town came to like. He really didn't think he had much talent, and could pick out songs that he had subconsciously ripped off. So he came up with this idea to make a mixtape for all his fans with songs from their last tape album followed by whatever song it was that his song ripped off. It's a shame that he never got around to doing it. It would have been entertaining, to say the least... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Thu Mar 5 14:19:58 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 5 Mar 98 14:19:58 Subject: Sinister: Intro/ Living the songs project: Dream of Horses Message-ID: <9803051918.AA2896@mail.irlgov.ie> Nick Dastor wrote "Hoorah for Martin and Amanda's dad..... The young and the old are much better." He also spotted a mesage from David Moore: "My copy of Telstar (b/w "Jungle Fever"!) came out in 1962, which would have made me 6 years old at the time.. 12 year old son and to really enjoy B & S gigs with my 19 year old daughter." and remarked "More old folk - triple hurrah!" It's good that the list is expanding so rapidly because with people as old as us three (and there may be more?), the mortality rate will be enormous! And if somebody of 50 joined the list, how would Nick describe them, since we're "old"? Nick also wrote: "I have no idea what Stormbringer is, but I'm sure it rocks like a beast. There used to be a bearded Maths teacher at school who'd lost interest in rock since Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin et al. The only modern band he liked was The Smiths." Stormbringer was a very gentle album by John and Beverly Martyn (Scottish?). It came out c. 1969 and has a B&S-type tone (some of them are bound to know it). John Martyn has made tons of albums since but I never cared much for his solo efforts. Anybody know what happened to Beverly? The Smiths opened my eyes, too, but in terms of certain songs and overall sound rather than a particular album. Nick also wrote: "I enjoyed your horse tale, Martin. But God doesn't smile upon those after a quick buck." It's back to Bible studies for some. What about the parable of the "talents"? Finally "Does your son like Belle & Sebastian?" He's 7 and I'm afraid Christmas carols are more his cup of tea. He also sings a version of "My Lovely Horse" from "Father Ted" (pity about the death of Fr Ted/Dermot Morgan). But I wouldn't encourage him. After all, Mr Murdoch sings; "Could I write a requiem for you 'n' your Dad?" As far as I know, requiems follow death and there may be a subliminal message there to children to commit parricide, then suicide. Amanda's Dad and David Moore better watch out, too. I know that some will say it's actually "Could I write a requiem for you when you're dead" because that's in the Official Website Lyric Sheet, but that's not what he sings. Martin C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Thu Mar 5 15:00:28 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:00:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Replies etc etc etc Message-ID: Shirley Watton from her velvet lined Art Deco apartment writes: please would all subscribers to the digest remember that if they just hit reply their replies will go into a black hole. For reasons too tedious to relate (original list members will remember the Great Sinister Crash of 1997 when everyone got 25 copies of each mail), the reply-to address comes to owner-sinister, a Shirley who has no time to readdress them. So you need to readdress to "sinister at majordomo.net". I'm going to rehash the FAQ for the mailing list in due course with a littl ehelp from others to better define what the majority of people want from this list. I've had quite a lot of emails privately asking me to do something so I'm going to have to get tough soon, which I hate. For now I ask as always that everything thinks before they send, that we avoid quizzes and number games and things not of the heart or the ribs, that we don't slag each other off, and that noone sends an excessive amount of one-line replies to things. Please bundle up a day's replies into one email as much as possible. Someone asked how many people is too many on this list. Well we're growing at a scary rate (someone told me we have beaten the George Michael list for members which frightens me for several reasons :) and sometime I may have to do something like put all new subscribers only on the digest. In the meantime I appeal to you all to save bandwidth this end by sending out stuff that is genuinely interesting, personal or funny. Oh and finally everyone who doesn't use their porn name this week will be banned - remember - pet's name + mothers maiden name. -- Shirley Watton aka Honey, who is feeling remarkably sprightly at 34, as the list age average soars xxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Thu Mar 5 15:23:16 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 5 Mar 98 15:23:16 Subject: Sinister: -No Subject- Message-ID: <9803052021.AA3232@mail.irlgov.ie> Nick Dastor wrote "Hoorah for Martin and Amanda's dad..... The young and the old are much better." He also spotted a mesage from David Moore: "My copy of Telstar (b/w "Jungle Fever"!) came out in 1962, which would have made me 6 years old at the time.. 12 year old son and to really enjoy B & S gigs with my 19 year old daughter." and remarked "More old folk - triple hurrah!" It's good that the list is expanding so rapidly because with people as old as us three (and there may be more?), the mortality rate will be enormous! And if somebody of 50 joined the list, how would Nick describe them, since we're "old"? Nick also wrote: "I have no idea what Stormbringer is, but I'm sure it rocks like a beast. There used to be a bearded Maths teacher at school who'd lost interest in rock since Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin et al. The only modern band he liked was The Smiths." Stormbringer was a very gentle album by John and Beverly Martyn (Scottish?). It came out c. 1969 and has a B&S-type tone (some of them are bound to know it). John Martyn has made tons of albums since but I never cared much for his solo efforts. Anybody know what happened to Beverly? The Smiths opened my eyes, too, but in terms of certain songs and overall sound rather than a particular album. Nick also wrote: "I enjoyed your horse tale, Martin. But God doesn't smile upon those after a quick buck. In fact he drops delibarate red herrings to make them look foolish. The devil is a better bet for gambling tips. A horse called "Fashion Victim" ran at a meeting hours after Versace was shot. It came in first at 20-1.after a quick buck." It's back to Bible studies for some. What about the parable of the "talents" or maybe the bucks in question there weren't amassed very quickly? Anyway, the next time Versace is shot, I'll know what to do. Finally "Does your son like Belle & Sebastian?" He's 7 and I'm afraid Christmas carols are more his cup of tea. He also sings a version of "My Lovely Horse" from "Father Ted" (pity about the death of Fr Ted/Dermot Morgan). But I wouldn't encourage him. After all, Mr Murdoch sings; "Could I write a requiem for you 'n' your Dad?" As far as I know, requiems follow death and there may be a subliminal message there to children to commit parricide, then suicide. Amanda's Dad and David Moore better watch out, too. I know that some will say it's actually "Could I write a requiem for you when you're dead" because that's in the Official Website Lyric Sheet, but that's not what he sings. Martin C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ha5lwh at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 15:41:12 1998 From: ha5lwh at xxx.uk (lee.whitehead) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:41:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: 1000 questions Message-ID: Well i`ve been on this list a few months now and i have finally plucked up the courage to write. I`ve started to feel like Mr Burns silently watching the workers at the nuclear power plant over cctv, but no longer. I figure whats the worst that could happen to me if i introduce my self, it`s not as though you`ll come round and give me a kickin is it... errr is it? First of all heres my story. I was introduced to the delights of belle and sebastian by Mark and Lard when the were on at night, or maybe not. I definitely remember hearing a record played by Jo Wiley on a sunny Saturday afternoon whilst i was reading a book in the garden the first few lines of the song were something about a wedding day and and telling your brother your gay. On hearing this song i remember thinking to myself 'what a fine song that was' and 'has`nt that bloke got a weird voice'. A few months later i brought the album on the strength of that one song i had heard. On the train on the way home i read the sleeve notes and inspected the lyrics to look for the name of the mystery song only to find it was`nt there. I thought i`d wasted my money on another shit album like the time i bought a Cocteu twins album, but as you may have guessed by now it turned out to be a sound investment (no pun intended), and thats my story. I still don`t know what that mystery song was, i expect it was on the Dog on Wheels EP, so if anybody has bothered to read this far could you enlighten me please. Well after all these months of watching and reading these pages i thought i`d have 1000 question, but i only have one, if i think of anymore i`ll let you know, probably in a few months! In a few seconds i`m going to press send, i`ve got a felling i may have the address wrong, oh what the hell here it goes.......... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 16:17:40 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:17:40 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: wayward and cynical Message-ID: In a message dated 98-03-04 20:24:28 EST, barzy at networkmags.com writes: << Heeeheehhaaahaaa! That reminds me of being at someone's flat a ton of years ago, listening to The Jesus & Mary Chain... >> We saw the J&MC last night here in NYC. Brilliant show. New record is a fine return to form. The boys are still just as fucked up as ever it seems..... new record later in the Spring..... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 16:54:31 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:54:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S Picnics Message-ID: <199803051155_MC2-35A7-57D6@compuserve.com> Picnics on Primrose Hill!!??!! Bit far south for me, kids...(as usual) How about regional ones too? I would love one to be held in Edinburgh. Arthur's Seat? Prince's St. Gardens? Any other suggestions...(seen as B&S are Scottish an' all) I'm up for it if you all are...(onlt maybe not if I've got my CSYS English exam the next day- could be a problem!) love and alcoholidays, Debbie xxx. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Thu Mar 5 17:25:58 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 17:25:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Me Me Me Message-ID: Can anyone help me out on the title of the Me Me Me song? This is all my friend Duncan managed to come up with.... I remember they had a song out a few years ago that everyone was singing along to. Can't remember what it was called but was a pleasant little ditty maybe linked with either a film or charity. As far as I am aware, they have ceased to exist and only came together for whatever reason they came together for ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Mar 5 09:59:24 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 10:59:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Telstar/Sarcasm Message-ID: <01bd481d$60b0e8a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: David Moore Para: Sinister Fecha: jueves 5 de marzo de 1998 2:27 Asunto: Sinister: Telstar My copy of Telstar (b/w "Jungle Fever"!) came out in 1962, which would have made me 6 years old at the time. Do I win a prize? Having that record is enough of a prize, I think. Two corking tunes. Other favourites include "Robot" and "Life on Venus", not to mention "Exodus" recorded live on Blackpool South Pier. As well as all the usual influences mentioned, like Nick Drake, Love, Donovan, Dylan, etc. I can also hear The Incredible String Band, and believe it or not, Yes. Keith taped me a bit of Yes, and it is indeed very similar to that B&S song (title escapes me). The rifftastic one. It's easy to be sarcastic in e-mail. Just use Northy's snake symbol (patent pending) and Hey Presto! your sarcastic intent is clear for all to see. Example: Thanks to all the people who pointed out those faults in the film "Titanic".~ Peace List!~ BC ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Nrbqlover at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 18:22:14 1998 From: Nrbqlover at xxx.com (Nrbqlover) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:22:14 EST Subject: Sinister: 1000 questions Message-ID: <4f6ecb99.34feed58@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-05 11:04:20 EST, Lee writes: << I still don`t know what that mystery song was, i expect it was on the Dog on Wheels EP, so if anybody has bothered to read this far could you enlighten me please. Well after all these months of watching and reading thes >> Lee, the song was "The State I Am In". IMHO, an inferior version does exist on the Dog on Wheels ep. The version you want to have is on TigerMilk, and if you can't get someone in your country to tape it for you, e-mail me off-list and you'll get one from Los Angeles. clem lane nrbqlover at aol.com n.p. laptop-end credits ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From college at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 18:48:40 1998 From: college at xxx.com (TonyK) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 10:48:40 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: wayward and cynical References: Message-ID: <34FEF387.5B8237D9@aliasrecords.com> ByTheSea6 wrote: > The Jesus & Mary Chain... >> > > We saw the The Jesus & Mary Chain last night here in NYC. Brilliant show. New > record is a fine > return to form. I must agree. It's a little early to tell for sure, but I might venture to say it's the best thing they've recorded since Psychocandy. I've been listening to it non-stop for the past week and am quite smitten with it. Sub Pop is releasing it in the states, does anyone knon who's releasing it in the UK? Pooka Rosato (I don't think I like my porno name...) aka TonyK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 18:44:54 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:44:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Me Me Me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Mar 1998, Mark Hester wrote: > Can anyone help me out on the title of the Me Me Me song? > This is all my friend Duncan managed to come up with.... "Hanging' Around". It was Alex out of Blur, Duffy, Justin out of Elastica and someone else who isn't anyone. It was the soundtrack to a Damien Hirst film. And I've now got it stuck in my head, you rotter! Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Three wine gums, and I'm anybody's... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 18:52:56 1998 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATE ANDERSON) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 18:52:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: Me Me Me (NBSC In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Can anyone help me out on the title of the Me Me Me song? > I remember they had a song out a few years ago that everyone was > singing along to. Can't remember what it was called but was a > pleasant little ditty maybe linked with either a film or charity. As > far as I am aware, they have ceased to exist and only came together > for whatever reason they came together for the song was called "hanging around" i think. it featured on damien hirst's short film debut of the same name which starred keith allen and maybe hirst's wife and...(did it star damon albarn? or am i imagining it?) anyway, mememe were alex james , justin from elastica and somebody else slightly forgettable. they came together in the name of time and space, didn't they? (little man) kate ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 18:55:25 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 13:55:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Edinburgh Fans Message-ID: <199803051356_MC2-35AD-C1AF@compuserve.com> Reply to Paul, who wrote; >Another listee in Edinburgh!? And one called confusingly Alan and Debbie!... It's me dad's address, he's called Alan. Doh! But of course you probably new that already (it's not a pseudonym/porn name or anything...but just for the record, it would be Licorice Pettigrew- crap, I know) Lets all us Edinburgh B&S fans meet up for a piss-up or something sometime! (who needs picnics...bah!) I'll be the one dancing on the tables (before turning them round) shouting my usual catchphrase; "DO WHAT THE GIN TELLS YOU!" Smashing. Love and other indoor sports, Debs. PS. I have nothing to declare but my Guiness... (tee, and indeed, hee) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 19:14:24 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Rob B) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 19:14:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Telstar In-Reply-To: <19980305112304.16841.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: > > Seeing other people... Peanuts theme by whoever > What about 'she comes in colours' by Love - the piano intro to seeing other people is almost identical to the flute bit half way through the Love song. Does anybody have the lyrics to 'the loneliness of the middle distance runner'? I've tried to work them out but they make no sense the way I hear them. bye bye, rob P.S. hi henry ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ahalter at xxx.edu Thu Mar 5 19:17:31 1998 From: ahalter at xxx.edu (ahalter) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 11:17:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: au revoir! Message-ID: just for now kids! i am leaving on holiday tomorrow morning at 5oclock for a week and a half and i think that there is no possible way to stay on the list as i would never be able to sort everything out when i return... please donot send me off to digest format whilst i am away! and to anyone who has tapes coming from me they will arrive soon soon soon!!! tata allison ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 19:38:34 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 14:38:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Me Me Me Message-ID: <199803051439_MC2-35A5-C30D@compuserve.com> On Thurs, 5 March, Mark Hester wanted to know about cackish 'indie supergroup' Me Me Me; I think the song was called 'Hanging Around' (or 'Anging Around as it was probably pronounced) and it featured Alex James, Stephen Duffy, Justin-Elastica-drummer-bloke and some other guy out of a band noone had heard of at the time (or has done since- good career move then...) It wasn't done for charity or anything like that, it was something to do with a Damian Hirst exhibition if I remember correctly. It was a one off single. Shame. To use the words 'Brit' and 'Pop' in the same sentence would be a vast understatement. Not inherently evil like Billy Ocean Colour Scene, Cast or Satan's own pub band, Kula Shaker, But vaguely irritating after hearing it more than half a dozen times in a day... Hope this helps a bit, for whatever reason you needed to know, love and other indoor sports, Debbie xxx PS; "It isn't summer if your tongue isn't purple!" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From eakraft at xxx.edu Thu Mar 5 20:00:01 1998 From: eakraft at xxx.edu (e. kraft) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 14:00:01 -0600 Subject: Sinister: sinister: our obsession gets us known Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19980305140001.006bda14@students.wisc.edu> spunky twattroubler wrote: >Before marrying Trevor Turton at Attercliffe registry office, my mother >went by the charming name of Beryl Twattroubler. > >For her eighth birthday, my kid sister was given a spaniel, which she >proceeded to name Spunky. > >See ? It's all bobbins. These things NEVER work. > > >yerluvinuncleTurt > what a delight to wake up to this post. i was eating my breakfast as i perused my email this morning, and i almost spewed a slurry of half-masticated total raisin bran and milk all over the keyboard and monitor of my new computer. despite my unmitigated delight, i do feel compelled to offer a slight correction/modification to all of this name-game zaniness... That bloke Rod Begbie wrote.... > No, "Porn Star Names" are made up from the name of your first pet, > along with your mother's maiden name. guy trebay of the new york times sunday magazine would beg to differ. according to last sunday's issue (style column, p. 49), porn star names are conjugated by taking the name of your first pet and adding the name of the street you grew up on. on the other hand, the version the list has been playing, at least according to this article, is the drag-name game, because i suppose you're supposed to imagine a drag queen when you combine your first pet's name and your mother's maiden name. here's a funny bit from that article: An intellectual friend with a serious Eastern European handle turned into Silky Diamond, a moniker suggestive of years spent touring the Borscht Belt with a feathered fan. Friedman, who is by her own description "a little 66-year-old lady," was transformed into the incomparably earthy-ethereal Pumpkin Wander. My own drag name happens to be Happy Foster, an alias that for me conjures up a semialcoholic field-hockey captain out of "Butterfield 8." anyway, this porn/drag distinction is a minor quibble, but if nothing else it gives us twice as much pseudonym fun. not to be daunted by the most gigantic words in the dictionary, .erik (porn: chelsea fairfield drag: chelsea johnson) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 20:16:20 1998 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 15:16:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Porn Star Names Message-ID: <01BD4849.A7C28EC0@n141.natureny.com> OK, I always heard, as others have stated, that it's your middle name and the street you grew up on - making me Merrily Bayberry. (I know a Gerard Hollywood and an Andrew Hitchingpost and a Lawrence Robinwood by this formula - brilliant) If it's middle name and teddy bear's name (though I had a stuffed cat), mine's Merrily Raunchy. Oddly, if you take your middle name and your mother's maiden name, that makes me Merrily Stewart - which is my mother's name, and I don't know what to make of that equation! Wow - does anyone really care? Probably not, but I have no boss in the office today, so I'm bored and passing time. Nasty! Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 20:24:21 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:24:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i only wanted to play the tambourine Message-ID: yo! after a long (for me) silence, i am back. glad to see you've all missed me like. something interesting to talk about yay! the PICNIC! would you believe that whatever digest the picnic dates were on, i DIDN'T GET!!!! (Oh dear, Mark hester, the Me Me Me song was called 'hanging around'. i have that song. oh dear. Alex from Blur, Stephen Duffy Justin Elastica methinks. no se porque.) but may Day sounds like such a great date! the 24th may is the better date for the 2nd one as well....ooh i'll try and get to the may Day one though! oh no! i wanted to save up to go and see new order at the phoenix as well....ooh, and i have to go to manchester this weekend....ooh, and i CAn'T GET A JOB!!!! but who cares! yeah, coaches are cheap, so i shall get a coach from Preston.....to Victoria....now how the hell would you get to Camden from there? where the hell is Camden? Where also is cardboard city as i wil not be able to afford any place to stay.... arse. i can bring a crappy drinking game from me charity shop if anyone wants! and guess who! swingball is cool. someone bring a football and jumpers for goalposts....i can also bulk buy Barbie Lollies with free stickers and lots of crisps....as long as someone brings those little sausge rolls which you just HAVE to have. yay yay! a picnic a PICNIC! i wish i'd known this at colleg then i would have been SOOOOO HapPPEEEEEEEEYYYYYY! instead i ended up in RE wanting to smash things. like my Re teachers face. he IS gerry Adams by the way. dead spit. anyway. WHOS BRINGING THE TAPE PLAYER? i promise no MSP (well not that much...hehheehehehehe!) - doh...ok then. barely any MSP. ish. Super Furry Animals, can we play them??? And Gorkys???? I'm all excited! shit gotta lose weight for the sumer.....ok, so i wont eat untill this picnic, then i might even get down to...oh say....900 stone?? YIPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fish Sands (hows that for my porno name?) my fave insult of the day has been..... "YOU........are PAUL WELLERS NOSTRIL HAIR!!!!!!!" ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From andrewn at xxx.edu Thu Mar 5 20:47:38 1998 From: andrewn at xxx.edu (Andrew Hung Nguyen) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:47:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Listening to B&S at higher speeds Message-ID: Hello all, Has anyone ever noticed that "Electronic Renaissance" sounds like a techno song and "Dog On Wheels" sounds like a Flamenco song at higher speeds. Or maybe it is just me. Andrew N. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 20:58:38 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 12:58:38 -0800 Subject: Sinister: no B&S content, sorry Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF030EF1BF@amerwksnt01.xil.com> >>Erm, we do write in English over here. By 'Scottish' you mean Gaelic, no? Or did you think it should be written in a charming Glaswegian accent? :o) A Scottish (Glasgwegian, in fact) friend of mine insists that there is a Scottish language - not Gaelic, but SCOTTISH. He said it is hundreds of years old and virtually extinct, although he was involved in a society of some sort dedicated to resurrecting it... we were looking at something re: this on the Internet once cos he was trynna prove to me what he was saying wasn't a load of crap.... tho since no-one on the list has said anything to this effect, now I'm beginning to wonder! >>why doesnt anyone care about me? I do, for what it's worth:-) yeah I'm bawrin' I know Crystal Widmer = pet + mum (not very Diggler-esque....) Nicole Main = middle name + street (getting there!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 22:42:45 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 17:42:45 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: wayward and cynical Message-ID: <3a70bfb6.34ff2a67@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-05 14:02:44 EST, college at aliasrecords.com writes: << Sub Pop is releasing it in the states, does anyone knon who's releasing it in the UK? >> Creation Records. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blofeld97 at xxx.com Thu Mar 5 23:09:04 1998 From: blofeld97 at xxx.com (Michael Ryley) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 15:09:04 PST Subject: Sinister: re:sinister:me me me Message-ID: <19980305230905.15859.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello popkids! I'm probably really late replying to this but Me Me Me were a very short-lived band (thank god) consisting of the drummer from elastica, the bassist from Blur, Stephen 'tin tin' Duffy and some other bloke. Yes that song (Hanging Around) was catchy, but it was like all the cheesiest bits of Olde Englande model Blur in one track. Which is a hanging offence around these parts. until next time, beefcake BEEFCAKE BEEEEEEEEEEEEFFFFCAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!! ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 22:59:25 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:59:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S Picnics References: <199803051155_MC2-35A7-57D6@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <34FF2E4D.300EF3BA@totalweb.co.uk> Alan Prior wrote: > > Picnics on Primrose Hill!!??!! > Bit far south for me, kids...(as usual) > How about regional ones too? I would love one to be held in Edinburgh. > Arthur's Seat? Prince's St. Gardens? Any other suggestions...(seen as B&S > are Scottish an' all) > I'm up for it if you all are...(onlt maybe not if I've got my CSYS English > exam the next day- could be a problem!) > > love and alcoholidays, > Debbie xxx. paying attention Keith? good, cos i'm delegating the responsibility for a scottish picnic (edinburgh only?) to you. i hope you don't mind too much :) so anyone wants a scottish picnic? just mail keith (address in the archives if you search for "Keith Watson") david -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Mar 5 23:11:14 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 23:11:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: M'aidez! M'aidez! References: <19980305102620.5008.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <34FF3112.7DAD9DCE@totalweb.co.uk> Nick Dastoor wrote: > > David & Katrina wrote: > > > 1st Picnic will be on May Day, Which for those of you who are lazy > > it is Monday the 4th May. > > But really I say YAY and skip around like a moron attracting the > attention of various IT consulants in the vicinity. Picnic picnic > picnic. > > > 2nd Picnic will be either 24th May (Sunday) or 7th June (Sunday). > > I would be grateful if people told me which of the second option is > preferable. > > This is all too much. It's picnic heaven. And all so organised. I > have no preference - which day will be sunnier? no idea, but as people are travelling, we'll think up some back-up plan to cover bad weather, a bus down to the poetry society for coffee and music? possibly. > > Other picnics will be organised as we progress into summer. > > Stop, it's too much for a young boy with a heart murmur. > > > The Picnics will be held on Primrose Hill, and to risk being overly > organised, we'll meet at 2pm at Camden Town Tube Station. > > Hmm... back down to earth. I've always found Camden Town Tube Station > is a very depressing place to meet people. The only people I ever > meet there are drunks who take all my cigarettes. Yeah, but - and this is the main point - it's very easy for people to get to directly from central london and is easy to find. As a lot of people may be travelling for this, it's a good idea to have it convenient rather than scenically buried behind regents park or something. Plus it's close to Primrose hill and has an off-licence on the walk to the hill. what more could you ask for? > > Bring a game, some food, drinks and a sense of ironic humour i think. > > Surely we need to be better co-ordinated than this, Katrina. What if > everyone turns up with Swingball? Or we end up with nothing but > Dandelion and Burdock to drink? Or endless packets of barbeque beef > crisps? We'll all be sick. Also, we need to ensure a wide selection > of ironic senses of humour is brought, or else we'll all be telling > the same jokes all day. games to be bought must be for more than one person (game boys therefore are out!!), team things are cool as is connect 4 and twister. a football satisfies boys whilst a rounders bat and ball satisfies everyone. and as much as this appears organised, believe me that most people will bring nothing and expect the world! it only works if you all bring a little and then take a little from the day. > > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > > Yes yes YES. > > Nickadoodledoo david thinking that maybe this is a bit too organised for comfort, hardly smacks of anything to do with belle and sebastian, maybe i should postpone! (this is humour!) -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 01:42:15 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 98 01:42:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Scottish Message-ID: <199803060139.BAA13162@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Tara Widmer said: >A Scottish (Glasgwegian, in fact) friend of mine insists that there is a >Scottish language - not Gaelic, but SCOTTISH. He said it is hundreds of >years old and virtually extinct, although he was involved in a society >of some sort dedicated to resurrecting it... we were looking at >something re: this on the Internet once cos he was trynna prove to me >what he was saying wasn't a load of crap.... tho since no-one on the >list has said anything to this effect, now I'm beginning to wonder! I was the one who started the Gaelic/Scottish language thing to do with the B&S setlist language blunder. I originally come from Banffshire (that's in Scotland for you non UK-ers) where we speak DORIC (a very strong dialect), which, in written form, is pretty near to 'Old Scottish' (with some very local words). As far as I know there is a society dedicated to the less used Lowland variety (for you non-Scottish types that's the populated bit from Glasgow to Edinburgh) Somehow I don't think Belle & Sebastian would write in any version of Scottish. Imagine that!!! It's already bad enough with B&S being described as Folk-Pop. Writing in Scottish they would then become Super-Folky. I've never liked the music journo habit of describing singers or groups as 'folk'. I think they forget that there might be a local folk music tradition. B&S certainly don't sound folk in the Scottish sense (thank God or whatever). I think I've been watching too much Discovery Channel. I'm off to dream of horses (maybe). The Laird of East Fountainbridge. "An Egg is good for you" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Weiland643 at xxx.com Fri Mar 6 01:59:28 1998 From: Weiland643 at xxx.com (Weiland643) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:59:28 EST Subject: Sinister: I AM NOW A PORN STAR Message-ID: <402f2ec8.34ff5882@aol.com> all hail LIAM MALTA !!! ( silly aint it) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aarnette at xxx.edu Thu Mar 5 17:40:19 1998 From: aarnette at xxx.edu (Andy Arnette) Date: Thu, 05 Mar 1998 22:40:19 +0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199803060340.WAA00080@sable.cc.vt.edu> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Fri Mar 6 11:00:55 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 03:00:55 -0800 Subject: Sinister: jamc Message-ID: <34FFD767.36ED@earthlink.net> who knows when this new album comes out. i'm just now hearing about it. and is it true they've signed back on creation? sorry for the non b&s. oh and my porn star name would be "benji first avenue" not very exciting. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Fri Mar 6 05:26:48 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 00:26:48 EST Subject: Sinister: There is love in Century of Fakers (Elvis) Message-ID: <4c1798c4.34ff891a@aol.com> My friend, refers to Belle and Sebastian as "Those Pussy Boys," brought it to my attention that "Century of Fakers" is remarkably similar to "The Wedding Song (There Is Love)." Not the traditional wedding march ("here comes the bride...tra la la"). I downloaded a midi file off the internet and listened with a skeptic ear, and he's right! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Fri Mar 6 05:53:54 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (aadam at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 00:53:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Listening to B&S at higher speeds References: Message-ID: <34FF8F62.76C7@interaccess.com> Andrew Hung Nguyen wrote: > > Hello all, > Has anyone ever noticed that "Electronic Renaissance" sounds like > a techno song and "Dog On Wheels" sounds like a Flamenco song at higher > speeds. Or maybe it is just me. What the hell are you doing fucking with a genuine Tigermilk Lp? Why don't you tell us how nice the band would look without certain members as well? Sacrilege (stupidity for that matter) is fine on your own; but, for god's sake, have some pride! And if any other of you are treating your copies of Tmilk poorly, don't tell us. You may not wake up... Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mick at xxx.com Fri Mar 6 06:57:45 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 01:57:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: SoCal Musical Event (PopLuck) Message-ID: <34FF9E69.4FDFDFC3@indiepop.com> Hiya Sinister Listies, My friend Laura is housing a show at her home in Riverside, near L.A. It's not a picnic, but you can come and say hi to me. I've got curly hair & I'll be selling copies of my compilation I hope. I know there will be a sizable contingent of B&S fans among the bands, so come and see some dreamy & sweet pop from a couple of area acts. E-mail me if you're interested... -------- heya! it's popluck part 2! featuring! MAJESTIC 12 (yes the real one) SEPTEMBER (moody instrumental wizzards!) THE GOLDEN MEAN (a good new toe-tappin' band) EX-AUTOCOLLANTS (aka the band without a name yet...) when: friday, march 27th, from 6 pm to 10 pm cost: you must bring some item of food or drink where: secret location in Riverside, CA (RSVP for directions) what else: tape swap madness, videos, games, door prizes, and lots of fun! write me for more details and to RSVP (this is invitation only, but all listies are invited!) big smiles to everyone!!! laura --------- Duke Gordon (or Duke Wilkie, though I prefer Duke Gordon), /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Mar 5 19:51:47 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1998 20:51:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Stormbringer Message-ID: <01bd4870$21d6bc60$LocalHost@itjfvkli> >Stormbringer was a very gentle album by John and Beverly Martyn (Scottish?). >It came out c. 1969 and has a B&S-type tone (some of them are bound to know >it). John Martyn has made tons of albums since but I never cared much for his >solo efforts. Anybody know what happened to Beverly? The saintly Keith also recently furnished me with a copy of "Solid Air", which is very nice indeed. In fact I had a copy of John Martyn Live At Leeds in my mits this afternoon, but balked at the price and distinct lack of previously unreleasable material. I came home empty handed, just in time for the Bobby Chariot Memorial Hayride. Proceedings were enlivened by Tag's, whoops, I mean Don Estelle's, maniac Starsky and Hutch drive home, and Linda and Keith's remarkable display of Dad's Army minor character knowledge. Not to mention a very nice photograph distributed by Susannah. Thanks, Susannah, I collect things like that! Next week's fatty fun proceedings will be hosted by Spudgun out of BBC TV's "Bottom". The even saintlier Mussadiq equipped me with a tape of that Peanuts music. It's very nice listening, quite relaxing. Just the ticket for an afternoon's punting, but I don't really see the B&s similarity. While we're on the subject, a big hearty slap on the back for all my tape swapping chums. I've been introduced to some very pleasant music, from the lovely Will Oldham to the equally desireable Yes. I'm only sorry I haven't got anything very exciting to send in return. I sent off my Duke Box Dury tape, and now I'm worrying about what to do for Matt....problems problems. Melon Mainprize ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 09:46:36 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:46:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The State that I am In. Message-ID: <01BD48E4.C5019300@pc07628> Clem wrote In true Public Service style : >In a message dated 98-03-05 11:04:20 EST, Lee writes: << I still don`t know what that mystery song was, i expect it was on the Dog on Wheels EP, so if anybody has bothered to read this far could you enlighten me please. Well after all these months of watching and reading thes >> >Lee, the song was "The State I Am In". IMHO, an inferior version does exist >on the Dog on Wheels ep. The version you want to have is on TigerMilk, and if >you can't get someone in your country to tape it for you, e-mail me off-list and >you'll get one from Los Angeles. True, it is by far the inferior version, but such is the enormity of this song, it still sends the shivers down my spine. Now I apologise to our non-uk friends as they may not be familiar with this, but when I was at primary school we used to sing a couple of songs in assembly that would make me cry. One of them was "Leaving on a jet-plane" (Don't laugh you bastards!!), don't ask me who wrote this 'cos I'm hopeless at anything pre '77. The other was a song which I can't remember the name of, but went..... "How can you tell me, you're lonely, and say to me that the sun don't shine. Let me take you by the hand and lead you through the streets of London, I'll show you something, that'll make you change your mind". Absolutely no ideas who wrote it. Now beat the living shit out of me if I'm way off the mark, but TSIAI totally reminds me of this song and brings back the memories of the only days I can honestly say I was happy and didn't have a care in the world. Lucy Croxford. Pity would be no more If we did not make somebody poor And mercy no more could be If all were happy as we. William Blake. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 10:10:36 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 10:10:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Let me take you by the hand Message-ID: <01bd48e8$1ba98930$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >True, it is by far the inferior version, but such is the enormity of this song, it still sends the shivers down my spine. >Now I apologise to our non-uk friends as they may not be familiar with this, but when I was at primary school we used to sing a couple >of songs in assembly that would make me cry. >One of them was "Leaving on a jet-plane" (Don't laugh you bastards!!), don't ask me who wrote this 'cos I'm hopeless at anything pre >'77. >The other was a song which I can't remember the name of, but went..... >"How can you tell me, you're lonely, and say to me that the sun don't shine. Let me take you by the hand and lead you through the >streets of London, I'll show you something, that'll make you change your mind". Assuming Adrian, your school assemblies didn't involve you lot howling out the Anti-Nowhere League's version of this song, then "Streets of London" is Ralph McTell's 1974 hit. Ralph McTell was a singer on the late sixties/early seventies folk circuit and knew Nick Drake and John Martyn and suchlike - he probably knew Sally Oldfield too pop pickers :-) "Streets of London" was his only hit, and in the early 80's he lent his deadpan drawl, and habit of wandering around with his hands in his pockets, to co-present a kids program. As mentioned before, second generation daft punksters the Anti-Nowhere League did a curaazzeee cover of "Street's of London" in 1982. It was crap... and it certainly wasn't funny. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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But God doesn't smile upon those after a quick buck." Martin wrote: > It's back to Bible studies for some. What about the parable of the > "talents"? Hmm.. The parable of the talents is quite gnomic really. Is it a counterbalance to the 'eye of the needle' comment, or should we not identify God with the tyrannical lord whose story he tells and instead see the parable as a description of the injustice of this world (as opposed to the next)? Whichever, I don't think Jesus would have looked so kindly upon Zacchaeus if he'd hidden in his tree and shouted out requests for tips in the 4.20 at Cheltenham. I promise not to talk scripture anymore. I just thought that as off-topic tangents go it was more interesting than indie minutiae. Nick _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Fri Mar 6 11:13:53 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 11:13:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Final IRC band chat information Message-ID: For all those wanting to come along to the IRC band chat on Thursday 12th March at 2pm GMT, PLEASE READ the following instructions. It's really important you understand how this works beforehand because it might be a bit frantic, what with everyone throwing their underwear at the band an' all. The instructions below are also on the WWW now at http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/chat/bschat-users.html P.S. Special message for Susannah from Stuart David: if you're going to send him any more nudey pictures, please send make them nudey ones of yourself. -- Honey -- Belle and Sebastian Chat - Users Organised online chats are notorious for turning into chaos and leaving everyone dissatisfied so there are some hard and fast rules which will be applied - you need to read these to take part and because time is limited infringement of these rules will be treated harshly as it will mess it up for everyone. The chat will last about 1 hour. The first 50 minutes will follow a strict schedule as described below as experience shows this is the only way to prevent chaos. The last 10 minutes will be a free-for-all and general bunfight-type-thing. As described before you need to do the following things first to participate. Please see notes on all the main B&S websites for guidance but do it in good time as help will not be available on the day. If you have any problems please contact d.kitchen at virgin.net. * Download chat software and install * Join IRC server chat.virgin.net * Join both chat rooms/channels #Sinister and #JeepsterRecords The chat will work as follows. Organised 50 minutes Everyone can speak in #Sinister but it's absolutely necessary that you stay quiet except for asking questions, follow-ups and very urgent requests. If someone starts flooding this channel with rubbish they will be kicked without warning and banned for 30 minutes - the ban can't be lifted (a feature of Virgin software). You should only need to type the following two things in #Sinister: * "Q", followed by your question if you wish to pose one * "F" if you wish to ask a follow-up to the current question There will be "operators" available in #Sinister to handle queries and problems - they will all have nicknames starting with "Op-". You should ask these operators if you confused about anything while the chat is taking place. You should never send a private message to David ("huxley") or Paul ("honey") as they will be swamped with work to keep the chat going. Equally anyone found trying to private message the band themselves will be kicked immediately - no appeal - this is taken very seriously as it will mess things up for everyone. When you are chosen to ask a question, you will be given a voice in the room #JeepsterRecords. You will see a personal message in that room and should ask your question immediately in #JeepsterRecords - please don't go in for long-winded introductions. You'll be able to follow-up responses quickly but bear in mind if only 25 people ask questions that's only 2 minutes each. It's likely that two people will be given voices at a time to help the flow. Please don't gripe if you don't get a chance to ask your question. We will do everything possible to be fair to people! But you can imagine how difficult it will be to coordinate all this - and it's likely there will be more chats in the future. Lastly - please bear in mind that the band are very new to IRC chat - most of them will have never used it before. This is unavoidable really but please be patient. Finally - what kind of questions should you ask? Anything! We don't want an endless round of "why won't you release Tigermilk"'s but one or two are fine... But try and stay friendly and don't ask questions that show how clever you are and can't really be answered :) Last 10 minutes Everyone will be given a voice in #JeepsterRecords and chaos will reign. Please try and give the band time to speak. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ That's it - enjoy the chat and please make sure you remember the rules above. Sorry it's all so harsh but these things often fall to pieces and this is an attempt to make it better. If it seems to go well and everyone abides by the rules we may be on for a few more. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alaning at xxx.fr Fri Mar 6 11:19:44 1998 From: alaning at xxx.fr (Alan.H) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:19:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The State that I am In. Message-ID: <199803061120.MAA00536@mail1.isdnet.net> :Now I apologise to our non-uk friends as they may not be familiar with this, but when I :was at primary school we used to sing a couple of songs in assembly that would make :me cry. :One of them was "Leaving on a jet-plane" (Don't laugh you bastards!!), don't ask me :who wrote this 'cos I'm hopeless at anything pre '77. Erm, John Denver...also wrote " Annies song" which makes me go all goose bumpy...there's a New order link to this one, 'cos they were accused of stealing part of "leaving..." on "run" from the "technique" album, a court case they lost if i remember rightly... :The other was a song which I can't remember the name of, but went..... :"How can you tell me, you're lonely, and say to me that the sun don't shine. Let me :take you by the hand and lead you through the streets of London, I'll show you ... "the streets of london" by "whistling" Roger Whittaker i believe... alan, with too much time on his hands, and a crap record collection (herp alpert anyone?)...or should i say "Jasper Milner"...no doesn't quite sound porn starry does it? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 12:17:39 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Rob B) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:17:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The State that I am In. In-Reply-To: <199803061120.MAA00536@mail1.isdnet.net> Message-ID: > :The other was a song which I can't remember the name of, but went..... > :"How can you tell me, you're lonely, and say to me that the sun don't > shine. Let me :take you by the hand and lead you through the streets of > London, I'll show you ... > > > "the streets of london" by "whistling" Roger Whittaker i believe... > that's what I thought, but no-one else seems to agree. ol' Rog was great wasn't he - he's not the type of person you admit you like though... shame rob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a2820862 at xxx.DE Fri Mar 6 12:20:56 1998 From: a2820862 at xxx.DE (Urs Walther) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:20:56 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: hello and goodbye Message-ID: Hello everyone! I just joined this list a few days ago. This is my first message to the list. I´m 24 years old and live in Cologne, Germany. Other favourite bands include: Suede, Smiths (discovered them years after they disbanded) / Morrissey, Strangelove (saw them live last night, brilliant!), Manics, Massive Attack, and many more. My first B&S item was the "Lazy Line Painter Jane EP", now I own every release except Tigermilk. If someone could be so nice to make me a copy of this, please e-mail me privately! I would be eternally grateful! Due to a two/three weeks holiday I won´t be able to check all those messages, this list is too busy, so I´ll unscribe again. But I´ll be back. Bye for now, see you, Urs. P.S. As far as I know, the old scottish language belongs to the family of gaelic languages. Other members of this family are Welsh, Irish, Cornish, and Breton (as spoken in Brittany France). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Fri Mar 6 12:45:56 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 07:45:56 EST Subject: Sinister: Is this the proof you've been seeking? Message-ID: Was on a cd buying expedition in Manhattan yesterday -- and we had the greatest laugh when we came across this while browsing -- At one cd store, the bin divider for B&S was not one of the regular printed ones with merely the band name. No, it was hand-drawn in pink marker. It noted "Belle & Sebastian" and had flowers and a unicorn drawn on. There was a little guy's face drawn in and he was advising: "We're so gentle and clever," "p.s. I'm gay." Has Stuart's alleged orientation now become a marketing point?!? Or is there a sinisterian having some fun at Kim's on St. Mark's Place? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Mar 6 13:03:36 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 13:03:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian Gigs 1998 Message-ID: <34FFF428.26B06F3@virgin.net> Hi everyone, I have just been speaking to Neil and he has confirmed that Belle and Sebastian will definitely be playing gigs this summer. The dates will probably begin in August and will hopefully encompass gigs in the UK, Europe and America. There may even be gigs in other parts of the world after the summer. As things are confirmed, we'll let you know! Happy day! Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 12:33:16 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:33:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: No no no no no no no no Message-ID: <01bd48fc$09a86030$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >"the streets of london" by "whistling" Roger Whittaker i believe... No no no :-) Roger Whittaker had a hit with the far more cred "Durham Town" which has more cred being more grim and in the Norrth. He also had the smurfs connection, which was far cooler than the distinctly uncred "Alphabet Zoo". Incidentally anyone particularly wanting some sort of 'picnic', let's call it a 'Scots picnic' shall we, can mail me if they like and we'll sort it out some time soon, for when it's a bit warmer really, we could go and do the Arthur's seat sunrise thingy if anyone fancies it. I know David's only allowed me the authority to ask people out in the in Edinburgh area... but I figure it'd be silly given that Glasgow's like next door, so anyone from Glasgow fancying a bit of a do sometime in the Summer is more than welcome to mail me too. As is anyone else... in the world in fact as long as you can make it to Edinburgh some time in the summer. That means all the Chorlton posse will have to wheel on up to Edinburgh. The longest day might make a suitable time., or at least the nearest weekend to. The Duke would be proud, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Fri Mar 6 13:24:41 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 6 Mar 98 13:24:41 Subject: Sinister: John Denver/Father Ted Message-ID: <9803061823.AA2898@mail.irlgov.ie> 1. IYFS says that "Hilary went to the Catholic Church because she wanted information The vicar, or whatever" It's a beautifully dismissive way of putting it. But as we all know, it's priest/Father. Which brings me to Father Ted (rather weak B&S link, but better than no B&S content). The latest issue of HOT PRESS (Dublin, Ireland) says that Brian Eno will appear as a priest in the final episode of the final series of Ted. It even shows a photo of him in his clerical togs. Quite a sight. 2. <"One of them was "Leaving on a jet-plane" (Don't laugh you bastards!!), don't ask me :who wrote this 'cos I'm hopeless at anything pre '77. Erm, John Denver...also wrote " Annies song" which makes me go all goose< Although John D wrote it, the "popular" version was by Peter, Paul and Mary (some of whom had different real names!). I remember that the B-side of their version had very good lyrics - if I can still remember after 25 years they must have been. Martin C "Because I could not stop for death He kindly stopped for me" Emily Dickinson (this is the kind of verse that cheers up us old folk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 12:37:31 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:37:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sheep and Sebastian Message-ID: <01bd48fc$a1b82400$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I was the one who started the Gaelic/Scottish language thing to do >with the B&S setlist language blunder. >I originally come from Banffshire (that's in Scotland for you non >UK-ers) where we speak DORIC (a very strong dialect), which, in >written form, is pretty near to 'Old Scottish' (with some very >local words). As far as I know there is a society dedicated to >the less used Lowland variety (for you non-Scottish types that's >the populated bit from Glasgow to Edinburgh) Doric, is a language is it? I didn't know that, I thought it was just a daft accent spoken by Aberdonians, indeed it is unintelligable, but I didn't know that it was anything to do with the words spoken... Still in the back of beyond lands of deep fried mars bars, I suppose anything's possible. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From LeslieH at xxx.COM Fri Mar 6 13:40:26 1998 From: LeslieH at xxx.COM (Lesley Higgins) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 08:40:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: holiday Message-ID: <01F2E5A1F9BBD01186420000C0DBCFDB0E9B41@NTMIS> I won't be here for the big bunfight on March 12th as I am going away to sunny Florida for a week. Will miss you all, see you back on the 17th. Lesley :-) (no sarcasm!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Fri Mar 6 13:33:50 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 13:33:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Not B&S but Peter, Paul, Mary & Ralph Message-ID: 'Leaving on a Jet Plane' was Peter, Paul & Mary. Quite a long time pre '77, possibly '67"! Ralph McTell sang Streets of London. I think you must have been to quite a radical school. Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 13:42:39 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:42:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: porn literature Message-ID: Bonjour tout le monde! Forgive me, Father, for I have sinned. Until this week I had never read any of Bill Bryson's marvellous oevres, which I am very sad about. Never mind, I've read a couple now. Laugh? I nearly swallowed my tongue... Yesterday I got home from college to find a pleasingly chunky envelope sitting on my doormat, addressed to me, yes, to ME! And it had my copies of Little Ink Movies and Ink Polaroids in it! They are truly lovely things, it has to be said. So I was happy then. Stuart David for immediate canonisation now! For he is a genius, oh yes he is. And he's got a "special multimedia box". Anyway, porn names: (with the teddy bear/road one): Attila Mando. Sounds more like a character from Star Trek than a porn person, but there you go; (with the pet/mother's maiden name one): Pip Tate. Not very successful either. Never mind, such is life. I don't think I'm cut out to be a porn star anyway... ByeBye, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ************************************************************* Love without hope,as when the young bird-catcher Swept off his tall hat to the Squire's own daughter, So let the imprisoned larks escape and fly Singing about her head, as she rode by. Robert Graves ************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607260m at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 14:13:31 1998 From: 9607260m at xxx.uk (David S Mccarthy) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:13:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: porn and picnics Message-ID: <15F112369B9@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> I heard off TV, possibly channel 4 or maybee 5 that your porn name is the name of your first pet plus your mothers maiden name which makes me Buffy Strong and my flatmates Dusty Lauler and Flash smith which sound like good porn names to me. Also is anyone planning a picnic in Glasgow, if not is anyone interested? How about the Kelvingrove? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 14:21:06 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:21:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Storm Damage Message-ID: <01BD490B.1A8602E0@pc07628> >Keith Watsonians wrote : >Assuming Adrian, your school assemblies didn't involve you lot howling out >the Anti-Nowhere League's version of this song, then "Streets of London" is >Ralph McTell's 1974 hit. Ralph McTell was a singer on the late sixties/early >seventies folk circuit and knew Nick Drake and John Martyn and suchlike - he >probably knew Sally Oldfield too pop pickers :-) >"Streets of London" was his only hit, and in the early 80's he lent his >deadpan drawl, and habit of wandering around with his hands in his pockets, >to co-present a kids program. >As mentioned before, second generation daft punksters the Anti-Nowhere >League did a curaazzeee cover of "Street's of London" in 1982. It was >crap... and it certainly wasn't funny. >Cheers, > Keith. Thankyou Keith, you are indeed a credit to Public Service Broadcasts. The song is wonderful, and I think if you were to be a one-hit wonder then this would have to be the one. I'm glad I haven't heard the latter version. >Adam wrote : >This famed socio-political ballad was by the esteemed folkie and >Childrens TV presenter Ralph Mactell. It was called simply "Streets Of >London". Two responses, blimey we're on the ball today. >Alan wrote : >Erm, John Denver...also wrote " Annies song" which makes me go all goose >bumpy...there's a New order link to this one, 'cos they were accused of >stealing part of "leaving..." on "run" from the "technique" album, a court >case they lost if i remember rightly... Three responses, what wonderful people we are !!! I'll have to check out the New Order link tonight, didn't they lose every court case they were involved in !!! I think they must have used the subtle Peter Hook as a solicitor or summat !! I remember the John Denver one now as it was the cause of countless sick jokes following his sad departure from this mortal coil. I'm surprised there aren't more New Ordery people on this list. Obviously these days one has to view them in a different light, but I can't get over the similarities I draw between them and the Belles and the Sebastians. Maybe it is because I was 13 when I started listening to NO and I haven't really felt that way about a band until BS. They just instil that feeling of youth and happiness underlined by the bands obvious carefree attitudes. >Rob B wrote : >> "the streets of london" by "whistling" Roger Whittaker i believe... >> >that's what I thought, but no-one else seems to agree. ol' Rog was great >wasn't he - he's not the type of person you admit you like though... shame In the words of Jeffery Wheeler..."We have a difference of Opinion" (One for Peter Miller). Roger Whittaker eh ? Durham Town.......smashing !! You admit what you like Rob, we have no shame round here. Lucy Croxford. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlRodz at xxx.com Fri Mar 6 14:21:08 1998 From: AlRodz at xxx.com (AlRodz) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 09:21:08 EST Subject: Sinister: Stormbringer Message-ID: <326990f1.35000656@aol.com> In a message dated 3/6/98 10:01:19 AM, you wrote: <> Take note that "Solid Air" is the song Martyn wrote for/about Nick Drake, who B&S often take comparison with... Any Nick Drake fans on the Sinisterlist? Al ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Fri Mar 6 14:33:18 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:33:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Stormbringer In-Reply-To: <326990f1.35000656@aol.com> Message-ID: > Any Nick Drake fans on the Sinisterlist? Do a search on the list archives and you'll see 80 matches for "Nick Drake" :) Oh yes and I'm one of the matches. I want to know if anyone positively *doesn't* like Nick Drake? Well, a bit. Shirley W. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 14:00:21 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:00:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Is this the proof you've been seeking? Message-ID: <01bd4908$33f5e180$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Do we have to talk about band members sexuality. It's really none of our business. Especially when people are just blindly speculating. I wouldn't like people discussing this sort of thing about me without my permission. Why is it of so much interest anyway? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 13:45:15 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 13:45:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Picnic (Otherwise known as Peanut LionBar) Message-ID: <01BD4906.1B3F3300@pc07628> >David Jeepster Wrote : >thinking that maybe this is a bit too organised for comfort, hardly >smacks of anything to do with belle and sebastian, maybe i should >postpone! (this is humour!) Surely on this basis, we should all meet up in Manchester, play games badly for two days, go away again and then not do a bloody thing for six months. (This is Bitchy ;-o ). Sounds good to me. On the picnic front, I think there should at least be 11 Scottish representatives, so that we can have a forerunner to the England/Scotland World Cup Final that Rod Bigboy mentioned some weeks ago. (This is Far too optimistic :->) Lucy Croxford. PS. HoneyPaul - Is David effectively banned from the list for not using Porn name ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cam at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 22:29:34 1998 From: cam at xxx.uk (King Fame Throwa) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:29:34 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The State that I am In. Message-ID: <199803062229.OAA00065@mail> >Erm, John Denver...also wrote " Annies song" which makes me go all goose >bumpy...there's a New order link to this one, 'cos they were accused of >stealing part of "leaving..." on "run" from the "technique" album, a court >case they lost if i remember rightly... I reckon that Verve song "dont do drugs kids" or whatever it's called (as he pretends not to know) sounds dead similar to "Annies song" esp. that bit "...I know I'll see your face again"/"you fill up my senses...etc" but then again I think the intro to Lazy Line Painter Jane sounds like the intro to "Begin the Begin" by REM so what do I know ??? From rcoleman at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 14:42:29 1998 From: rcoleman at xxx.uk (rcoleman at xxx.uk) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:42:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ein neuer film von Alan Wiederhausen Message-ID: Salut pornstars Don't many sex-oscar winners have names like failed pop stars? Anyway, it has to be quite an option (workwise) for hasbeens & neverhasbeens of the music world. There's the common thread of wanton debauchery for starters. And in physical appearance, I'd like to nominate David 'big in me pants' Essex for the job. You'd just need to add a droopy moustache. I only mentioned the permed & perfumed 'Stardust' cockney, though, since I'm wondering if anyone else was pissed in the pub around the Christmas holiday & heard 'A Winter's Tale' on the jukey. Perhaps it was the Christmas ale, but the form & melody reminded me strongly of the Tigermilk wonder: Mary Jo. Now. I've said it. love & feathers -Rod. er, I mean Pug Prizeman. !!fluffer on the set, please. he's losing wood! xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 14:48:25 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 14:48:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Storm Thorgesonn Message-ID: <01bd490e$eac37610$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >In the words of Jeffery Wheeler..."We have a difference of Opinion" >(One for Peter Miller). That's a cracker Adrian, I tend to say this quite often in the pub when people disagree ("We've got a difference of opinion Jeffrey") but no-one *ever* gets it, which is sad. It's been quite a day for pointless trivia hasn't it, I suspect that's because it's Friday again, cool and I'm not even going to drink tonight, cause we're going shopping tomorrow with the one and only, let's have a hand for Mr. Tim Hopkins! I'm sure we'll post a full and detailed report on the shopping trip on Monday. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ds3624a at xxx.edu Fri Mar 6 19:31:36 1998 From: ds3624a at xxx.edu (Damon Seils) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 11:31:36 -0800 Subject: Sinister: porn References: <15F112369B9@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35004F18.A259C755@american.edu> Well, I guess that makes me Thunder "Thighs" Rowan. See you on the set. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Fri Mar 6 17:00:09 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 17:00:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: King Fame Throwa Message-ID: Please King Fame Throwa tell me which bit of Run is supposed to sound lke leaving on a jet plane. I'm intrigued! I'm a big fan of New Order and also like the various spin off group it has spawned. I've been singing Run all day trying to figure it out! Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlRodz at xxx.com Fri Mar 6 17:09:15 1998 From: AlRodz at xxx.com (AlRodz) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 12:09:15 EST Subject: Sinister: Kims at St Marks Place Message-ID: Being from Texas (gasp!), I'm only a recent convert to the joys of Belle and Sebastian (forgive my gaffe at asking if there were any Nick Drake fans on this list, uh-DUH)... And on a recent jaunt to NYC (where I stayed at the Parker Meridien, mind you, searching for remnants of B&S last visit), I went a-hunting for the EPs. Those of you visiting NYC in the near future may want to check out Kim's on St Marks Place, a lovely store with oodles of vinyl and great video selection. Personally, I found the EPs at Other Music in the East Village (with one exception, Lazy Line Painter Jane, which I found at the Virgin Megastore in Times Square). Ah, the joys of the big city. No one I know in Texas has the slightest inkling of who or what is Belle and Sebastian, not that I'm any more informed. But could someone riddle me this: What is the Tigermilk story? And secondly, are there any plans for B&S to tour the states? Thank ye- Al ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mike at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 18:25:36 1998 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Fri, 06 Mar 1998 18:25:36 GMT Subject: Sinister: No no no no no no no no In-Reply-To: <01bd48fc$09a86030$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: Keith Watson wrote: > No no no :-) Roger Whittaker had a hit with the far more cred "Durham Town" > which has more cred being more grim and in the Norrth. He also had the > smurfs connection, which was far cooler than the distinctly uncred "Alphabet > Zoo". Ralph McTell was the man in question - famous also for "Tickle on the Tum" on UK children's TV. Despite a distinctly uncred few years, he did write the maudlin country/folk song "From Clare To Here" which is pretty wonderful! An "alternative" version of "Streets of London" was performed by the Anti-Nowhere League...its, um...different! Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 18:43:17 1998 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (The Boy With The X-Ray Eyes!) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:43:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I hate my email thingy! Message-ID: My naughty pooter just deleted this lovely long message that I spent the best part of my after dinner contemplation and digestion time writing so I'm going to have to do it again, poo! Hello kittens, What a lovely week I've had, excluding 9am lectures which I've had everyday and having to remove the brain from my cadaver(they're heavier than you think). My wednesday was spent striking, well I went skiing at cairngorm, but I made a point of telling the bloke I shared a chairlift with on the way up that i was on strike coz of "fees n' that", which was fun appart from nearly killing everyone in the car a couple of times and getting stuck on a very small road behind some very large cows, they are scary close up. There was lots of lovely snow, but no foxes unfortunately, allthough foxes have been in my bad books ever since one killed my pet rabit Rambo. Which brings me on to porno names, mine would be Colin Smith , which is shite, I had several fish when I was wee all of which were called Colin, only from the second, Colin 2, they were numbered sequentially up to about 6.The best i can come up with is Herbie Smith aftermy first gerbil. Ahh Doric, What a beautiful language , Quine= girl, loon=boy, couthy auld wifie=old woman who stands at bus stop and offers you sweets. I love aberdeen. love Colin. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sjg at xxx.net Fri Mar 6 22:32:53 1998 From: sjg at xxx.net (stephen ghigliotty) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 17:32:53 -0500 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199803062232.RAA17501@amsterdam.interport.net> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Fri Mar 6 23:16:45 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 18:16:45 EST Subject: Sinister: Sprechen Sie Scottisch? Message-ID: <30b7e54d.350083df@aol.com> Yesterday in the hundred acre wood, you wrote: <> No, I must confess; it was me who began this language thread when I wrote that I thought the setlist would be written in Scottish. I believe the error comes from my non-use of some little face (ie. ;-)) or the wonderful squiggle (~) for sarcasm. I did write a message explaining this, but I counted to ten and thought that I had best delete it. I took the squiggle a wee bit too near the nasty side for my own comfort--blame it on writing late at night. When I was in Scotland, everyone I met did speak English--and I was also relieved to learn that no one wore furs or painted their faces blue anymore. [In this case, I will use the face ;-) to denote that that sentence was written with humourous intent.] I did not make a blunder; I was being cheeky. It all went wrong somewhere. I knew someone during the fall who was from Switzerland; she would ask people what language they speak in her country. To upset her, the answer given should be Swiss. Then she would launch into a narrative of Swiss history and culture. Some people would say Swiss just to upset her. I was more than surprised to learn that she spent the first seven years of her life in the US, before moving. I asked her about it--and she told me she had only vague memories of that time in her life. I thought it more than a little suspicious that she had little memory of seven years! Now she writes me letters, in English, that she is bored in the Alps. I would not mind being bored in the Alps. :-) My dubiously Swiss friend also thought that I _only_ listened to Belle and Sebastian. Whenever she asked me what I was listening to on my walkman, it would be B&S. She stopped asking after a while; she already knew the answer. Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Fri Mar 6 23:40:07 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 15:40:07 -0800 Subject: Sinister: B&S Picnics Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF030F3828@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Well I don't know about the rest of you non-UK listees, but this whole picnic thing makes me slightly miserable at being stuck in crazy Yankland, as usual.... Wouldn't it be nice to also organize a similar event Stateside --particularly the NorCal region!! --- to coincide with the next B&S release sometime this summer? ...under the wild assumption that she's not the only fan in Norcal "Black Beauty Main" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Fri Mar 6 23:25:52 1998 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 23:25:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mudskipper Message-ID: I've not been reading the list for about a month now as I've been dead busy so I'm not really up to speed on the current topics but I would like to use this space to introduce a new band that most of you are going to adore. They're called Mudskipper and are based in Wolverhampton UK. Chris Brown, the bass player is the proud owner of a vinyl Tigermilk, oblivious to it's worth, but of the impression that they're the only modern band doing what Mudskipper do. So that'll be gentle, fragile, acoustic pop with a delicate voice. Our local music paper called them 'Wolverhampton's quietest band'. They've just released a CD called 'Eggshells' on their own label but it's got a limited run of less than one hundred copies! Is this the next Tigermilk???? If you want to hear it, Chris has agreed to let me offer a few to the list. To get your hands on one, send a cheque or IRC (payable The Varsity) for £11.00 (£12.00 outside the UK) to: The Varsity (Mudskipper Offer) Stafford St Wolverhampton WV1 1LZ UK The price includes postage and if there's a good response and we run out, we'll mail the money back. We've also got them playing at the venue (The Varsity - that is) on March 25 as part of a tribute night to John Todd, a local music photographer who died earlier this year. I know this looks like a blatant plug but it's not - it's just me helping out a band who make fantastic music. I wanted to set up a little web site for them but I don't know how to get sounds off the CD and into WAV format. I'm reluctant to offer tape copies as the only way for the band to make money is to sell these. And I'm not making a penny out of it. Mudskipper are charging me £10.00 for each one and I reckon the stamp and jiffy bag will cost a quid to do and I'll no doubt lose out if someone from abroad buys one! If you want to know more, e-mail me privately and I'll give you their phone number. You can also get CDs off them direct if you think I'm up to something(!)(someone out there will be wary of this...!). Cheers Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ianmacdonald at xxx.net Sat Mar 7 00:17:25 1998 From: ianmacdonald at xxx.net (Ian MacDonald) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 00:17:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Scottish Message-ID: <199803070026.AAA18205@boober.lineone.net> upndoonroonnroonbenahoosekenfitahmeanklenngreeneberdeen,fitlikemin? ---------- > From: plaird > To: sinister > Subject: Sinister: Belle & Scottish > Date: 06 March 1998 01:42 > > Tara Widmer said: > >A Scottish (Glasgwegian, in fact) friend of mine insists that there is a > >Scottish language - not Gaelic, but SCOTTISH. He said it is hundreds of > >years old and virtually extinct, although he was involved in a society > >of some sort dedicated to resurrecting it... we were looking at > >something re: this on the Internet once cos he was trynna prove to me > >what he was saying wasn't a load of crap.... tho since no-one on the > >list has said anything to this effect, now I'm beginning to wonder! > > I was the one who started the Gaelic/Scottish language thing to do > with the B&S setlist language blunder. > I originally come from Banffshire (that's in Scotland for you non > UK-ers) where we speak DORIC (a very strong dialect), which, in > written form, is pretty near to 'Old Scottish' (with some very > local words). As far as I know there is a society dedicated to > the less used Lowland variety (for you non-Scottish types that's > the populated bit from Glasgow to Edinburgh) > > Somehow I don't think Belle & Sebastian would write in any > version of Scottish. > > Imagine that!!! > It's already bad enough with B&S being described as Folk-Pop. > Writing in Scottish they would then become Super-Folky. > > I've never liked the music journo habit of describing singers or > groups as 'folk'. I think they forget that there might be a local > folk music tradition. B&S certainly don't sound folk in the > Scottish sense (thank God or whatever). > > I think I've been watching too much Discovery Channel. > > I'm off to dream of horses (maybe). > > The Laird of East Fountainbridge. > > > > "An Egg is good for you" - THE EGG Marketing Board > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Sat Mar 7 02:22:58 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 98 02:22:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sheep & Sebastian Message-ID: <199803070220.CAA06956@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Ahh, Matthew, >I did not make a blunder; I was being cheeky. It all went wrong somewhere. Nae problem. I'll be honest and say I just assumed a blunder had been made, since I've been asked before if we spoke English over here by unthinking Americans (USA that is). So it could be said I'm guilty of making the unfounded assumption that all you yanks are that daft :o). (note smiley thingie) >Ahh Doric, What a beautiful language , Quine= girl, loon=boy, couthy auld >wifie=old woman who stands at bus stop and offers you sweets. I love >aberdeen. >love Colin. I think I'm going to cry now. Not so keen on Aberdeen myself. >upndoonroonnroonbenahoosekenfitahmeanklenngreeneberdeen,fitlikemin? Ahmdaeinfine, fitlikeyersel? Keith the cheeky git said: >indeed it is unintelligable, but I didn't know >that it was anything to do with the words spoken... Still in the back of >beyond lands of deep fried mars bars, I suppose anything's possible. I'd never heard of deep fried Mars Bars 'til I moved to Edinburgh. I always thought they were some kind of Central belt thing. Oh, and by the way the Aberdeen area is cattle country. The Highlands are where the sheep run free (The Clearances 'n' that). Cheerio, The Laird of East Fountainbridge ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. 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IT'S FUCKIN' AIDANS DAY!! IT'S FUCKIN' AIDANS DAY!! This has been a public information broadcast Hei than que. Richard Anderson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Mar 6 19:26:12 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1998 20:26:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Storm Damage Message-ID: <01bd4935$b9e922c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> The insomniac badger squasher wrote: In the words of Jeffery Wheeler..."We have a difference of Opinion" (One for Peter Miller). BBC 2's perennial favourite "Call My Bluff", am I right? "We have a diiference of opinion, Geoffrey. Team captain Frank Muir says "Bluff", Nerys Hughes and Jeffrey from Haysi Fantaysee both think it's "True". Arthur, please reveal all....." "ooooh!" "aaah!" "It's true! Well done Nerys and Jeffrey, bad luck Frank! That's all we've got time for this week, b-bye!" There's a Roger Whittaker connection here, because he was once on Blankety Blank. He did do "Streets of London", Keith. I think the time may have come for you to invest in something a bit more substantial than the Guiness Book of Hit Singles edited by Paul Gambaccinni. MM ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Sat Mar 7 13:52:16 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 14:52:16 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Keith: Is he or isn't he? Message-ID: <01bd49d0$3db5ed00$d04c05c3@itjfvkli> >Do we have to talk about band members sexuality. It's really none of our >business. > >Especially when people are just blindly speculating. I wouldn't like people >discussing this sort of thing about me without my permission. > >Why is it of so much interest anyway? I don't know why it's of so much interest. I suppose people are just grubby little pervies at heart. But sex and/or gaiety obviously plays a major role in pop music, so perhaps that's why people are so interested. The Faber Book of Pop is chock-a-block full of things about homosexuality and pop, from the charming Little Richard to the equally delightful Brett from Suede, and none of them are just idle gossip, quite the opposite in fact. I was surprised to learn that only one of the Village People was gay. It just goes to show, doesn't it? No, not really. As far as the band members' sexuality is concerned, what surprises me is that everyone focusses on the ins and outs of Sturgeon Musgrave's private life, while no one seems interested in Isobel's AC/DC tendedncies. I am referring, of course, to her penchant for performing in school uniform. I've always enjoyed those AC/DC videos where members of the fanclub dress up as Angus Young and clamber about over scaffolding as the band play on regardless. Perhaps these picnics could turn into a video shoot of that sort, with all the girls dressed in school uniform and all the boys dressed in sensible sandals and smart trousers. 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Sat Mar 7 15:04:03 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 09:04:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: B&S Picnics In-Reply-To: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF030F3828@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Mar 1998, Tara Widmer wrote: > Well I don't know about the rest of you non-UK listees, but this whole > picnic thing makes me slightly miserable at being stuck in crazy > Yankland, as usual.... > Wouldn't it be nice to also organize a similar event Stateside > --particularly the NorCal region!! --- to coincide with the next B&S > release sometime this summer? I think we should picnic in Dallas, Texas, which is a nice city to visit, somewhat central for people of both coasts, and far enough away from my town of San Antonio to make the picnic a grand event for me too!! Yes? No? Perhaps I should start coordinating? -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Sat Mar 7 15:05:25 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 10:05:25 EST Subject: Sinister: Keith: Is he or isn't he? Message-ID: <1d3dea18.35016243@aol.com> Oh Gosh! I was only sharing a little story -- it was meant as a commentary on the oft- recurring *discussion* about Stuart's orientation, not on his personal life itself. The things people create are certainly colored by their personal lives -- their various orientations of all sorts, their "souls" and the things that have happened to them to form who they are. But, one doesn't have to "own" the artist's soul or know the minute details of his/her life to love the thing they created. If it simply speaks to something in you, you don't have to pick it to pieces... I could go on and on, explaining what I mean, but it boils down to: I really don't give a "toss" who or what Stuart M. or anyone else in the band may or may not be sleeping with. I just really love the music and am very glad that sometimes people can create something that can touch me -- on a level that is very personal to me. Sorry if I offended anyone. Next time, I'll just keep it to myself. -- michele ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Sat Mar 7 15:40:07 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 98 15:40:07 GMT Subject: Sinister: how many members of B&S does it take to change a lightbulb? Message-ID: <980307154007.n0009682.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 06 Mar 98, Keith Watson wrote... >Do we have to talk about band members sexuality. It's really none of our >business. > >Especially when people are just blindly speculating. I wouldn't like people >discussing this sort of thing about me without my permission. > >Why is it of so much interest anyway? > Am I alone in being concerned about Keith once again 'chumming up' with Stuart Murdoch? And he's not the only one, there seems to be a lot of it about, maybe its the change in weather but its certainly on the rise. Well, I reckon the band can handle a few loose jibes, keeps them on their toes, but the ' is-stuart-gay' thing HAS been going on a while admittedly. So, one last time for all the new listees out there, STUART IS NOT GAY !! (oh, go on then, he is). To date no-one has actually sent me any decent problems for my slot, so, you guessed it, I'll just have to make them up. So watch out for yourselves kids, and thats about all for a Saturday afternoon. Susannah. P.S . Stuart D : I've got the photo if you've got the scanner. P.P.S. Seven, but its the wrong type of bulb, with the wrong wattage and in the wrong socket. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Sat Mar 7 19:17:37 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 19:17:37 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Keith: Is he or isn't he? In-Reply-To: <1d3dea18.35016243@aol.com> Message-ID: > I was only sharing a little story -- it was meant as a commentary on the oft- > recurring *discussion* about Stuart's orientation, not on his personal life > itself. Exactly - as Susannah pointed out Keith's just trying to shag someone famous. He tried it with Roger Whittaker and now he's trying it with someone else. I thought the story was a nice comment on this silly ongoing debate about is-he isnt-he, almost as if someone's been following it on the list and giggling at it. Matthew Hintz got closest to what I think anyway - it's all bunk and I suspect sexuality's not half as clear in people's lives as it's made out to be for reasons of personal or political expediency. What I want to understand is not who people go to bed with but where the things they say connect with my life and how they help me understand what I feel. So, please, let's not pick apart Stuart's lyrics to look for "signs" for goodness sake - it's intrusive and what does it tell us about anything? I suspect that's all Keith's saying too. Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Sun Mar 8 02:19:03 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 18:19:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: flamer Message-ID: <35020017.40F9@earthlink.net> hey. all this talk about gayness reminded me of something. didn't a while back i read an excerpt of an interview with isobel where she says that stuart puts himself in the role of a woman and writes songs about himself. if that's the case, then seeing other people wouldn't be this grand gay anthem that people wish it was. but then again, who cares? -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Ryanerik at xxx.com Sat Mar 7 23:50:50 1998 From: Ryanerik at xxx.com (Ryanerik) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 18:50:50 EST Subject: Sinister: B&S Picnics Message-ID: <9ae12d63.3501dd5d@aol.com> No... we gotta do one up here in Minneapolis! F, man. the US is way to spread out. ryan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blofeld97 at xxx.com Sun Mar 8 02:31:21 1998 From: blofeld97 at xxx.com (Michael Ryley) Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 18:31:21 PST Subject: Sinister: insecurity Message-ID: <19980308023122.25514.qmail@hotmail.com> This ongoing debate re: bandmembers' sexuality is kind of interesting, but i wonder why sensitivity and being queer are so often linked...certainly, the men at my local gay pub are usually far from sensitive...we all need our privacy, but at the same time, i know many young kids who really care about these issues, because it's all about finding someone with whom to identify, so they can feel less alone...surely i can't be the only person to whom music has provided this service...thankyou for your time, pls. excuse my prattling on.... love michael, alias YUM-YUM HAGGERTY (erm, no, i dom't think so). ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Weiland643 at xxx.com Sun Mar 8 02:39:32 1998 From: Weiland643 at xxx.com (Weiland643) Date: Sat, 7 Mar 1998 21:39:32 EST Subject: Sinister: NORTH EASTERN NEW YORK Message-ID: <6acb8119.350204e7@aol.com> if you live anywhere in north eastern new york( ie albany, saratoga) , please please for god's sake make yourself known and email me !!!!!!!!!! maybe picnic... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Sun Mar 8 11:06:18 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 03:06:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the big l Message-ID: <35027BAA.2D3E@earthlink.net> hey all. no b&s, i just wanted to make a recommendation. i went and saw "the big lebowski" earlier today, and i have to say, i was so overwhelmed by that movie. it's the best comedy the coen brothers have done since "raising arizona". so, if any of you liked "raising arizona" or "fargo", definitley go see "the big lebowski". i sat through it twice and blew off work it was so good. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Sun Mar 8 01:39:48 1998 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 08 Mar 1998 01:39:48 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <0.11435162@andyclin.exnet.com> Harry Manning wrote:"what were the covers performed during the appearance of Belle & Sebastian members at an AIDS benefit on December 2nd at the 13th Note Cafe" Yeah!, I'd like to know that too, their choice of covers should be fascinating! Anyone get a tape of that one? Cheers, Rocker, rocker at andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Sun Mar 8 01:43:05 1998 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 08 Mar 1998 01:43:05 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <0.11435198@andyclin.exnet.com> >Johnston, John CT wrote:"Was I the only person reading that list of epic lyrics >and really hoping to see the words... >"Everybody have fun tonight: Everybody Wang Chung tonight..."' In a word, Yes. Rocker, rocker at andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blofeld97 at xxx.com Sun Mar 8 09:41:46 1998 From: blofeld97 at xxx.com (Michael Ryley) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 01:41:46 PST Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap (yes, i've just heard it's an old topic) Message-ID: <19980308094147.23270.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear kids, I'm listening to the Arab Strap "Girls of Summer E.P." and it's ace, well worth the inflated price i had to pay for it (being in Australia and all...grrr). My question is, are there any links between B&S and AS...you've probably all been through this already but please humour me...is it just me or does "A Century of Elvis" sound not a little bit like an upbeat Arab Strap? love, the ever-slow MichaelXXXXXXXXX ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From chris.hall5 at xxx.net Sun Mar 8 11:41:27 1998 From: chris.hall5 at xxx.net (Chris Hall) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:41:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: B & S & AS Message-ID: <01bd4a87$21fb4e40$5c4aa8c2@default> There is a link between the two in that isobel and chris from the seb played on 'the clearing' single by the strap. Details at the URL below. bootothebusinessworld! http://freespace.virgin.net/chris.hall5/index.htm ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From vlass at xxx.com Sun Mar 8 13:27:21 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 08:27:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk, stephin merrit and you Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980308132721.0067db80@mail.interlog.com> hey, i am a new fan of belle and sebastian who really, really wants to hear -tigermilk-... does anyone have a copy/dub that i could dub off of them if i sent them a blank tape? or is that unethical and wrong? ummmmm... im in toronto but if you live very far away, that's okay. thank you, teri vlass at interlog.com just wondering - how many belle and sebastian fans are also fans of the wonderful magnetic fields and stephin merrit? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Sun Mar 8 19:14:44 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 98 19:14:44 GMT Subject: Sinister: I sense a bent ballad Message-ID: <980308191444.n0009704.tormentor@mail.clara.net> This has probably cropped up before, although not in my time on the list , but you can have hours of fun at http://www.mi.uib.no/~ingeke/anagram/index_eng.html a little site that will generate anagrams for you. Belle and Sebastian came out as (Apart from Bleed Satan Lesbian which is Honeys pseudonym): I Sense A Bent Ballard A Tense Bible Sandal I, Deniable Bent Lass And my personal favourite: A Neat Sensible Bald See ! They Don't Lie!! See if you can get these, either band memebers or listees: 1) hot rum custard (Yum!) 2) Bogart germ tract 3) hot senses erupt 4) lethal lip cum 5) avid art stud 6) a shot Ukraine 7) I mock coke 8) ample bible cellos Don't post answers to the list, I'll post them myself later. Ah! sarong suntan xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sun Mar 8 21:59:37 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 16:59:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: give your mack a smack Message-ID: <199803082159.QAA11419@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear Sinisters! Hello! You all talking your lovely mix of things again.... It is nice to be back....I got to go with my friend to her high school...it was alright,I feel a bit different though...this one girl was trying to be nice with me and she asked me if I like this one band...can't remember who it was..wy..wyclef? Or something,then I try and describe for her what music I like and *surprise* she didn't leap out of her seat and hug me and go 'Oh Belle and Sebastian,me too,isn't Stuart David a dreamboat!' no...she goes 'Oh,so like nofx.'..anyways..then she looked disgustedly at my brett Anderson picture and tell me how ugly he is...*sigh* ...BUT I do get sympathy,just from being from Quebec..(should i be insulted?) but the wrestling coach scare me! Now I undersatnd your PE stories (see I don't have a teacher like that) He was nice but he would sorta bark at me and ask if Quebec City was a province....or he would ask me something,and as I finish saying it I see he's not even listening there but throwing some boy onto the mat,all while some guy on the excercise bike (do they pay him to jsut cycle? He never wrestled,and I was there for 2 hours...2 houuuurs! 2!) made fun of things... Do you know in some places for school you have to get up at 7:30! HOw do they expect you to learn! Then I had a real weird moment..i was in the biology class,and this one boy struck me out from the rest,I don't know why,then I find out it's this guy,the same boy 8 years ago when I was little I would arm wrestle and bike race him (and I won! On my girly teedy bear bike..I won!)It's so weird..from this guy you knew so well,then 8 years go by and you see him with multi-coloured hair wearing a speedo! Speaking of porn stars etc... I was in Blockbusters (in the DRAMA section! SO I don't know why he ask me this) but some weird little man ask me my opinion on this movie 'tales of erotica' or soemthing like that,and for the record I did not rent naughty movie I rented Before Sunrise! Was that girl crazy? I would've thrown Ethan in the river and tell that poet to start writing some more poems for me! Mrrrrowwww....wasn't he gorgeous! The unbuttoned shirt...the tousled hair,the accent..the poem...Dominik Dominik.. My name....Sugar Daly.....I sound like a boxer,not a porn star..I don't think I would get much work....BUT if I use my friends version of how to find it I get Scrumptious Valecka..that is little bit better? Yes..I should've told that guy to rent Scrumptious Valecka's movies.... hee hee,I'm gonna leave this email but I'm not gone,yes I have to blah blah blah about many other things so you arne't rid of me yet...! All this talk about speaking 'Scottish'! I wish more people would,so lovely!I try but I can only do so many words...'but would you no like tae be Scottish' actually,I would like to live on a hill with a Scottish boy it would be so fun! smooch smooch smooch, Sugar Daly ermmm Genevieve! ;) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sun Mar 8 22:00:13 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:00:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: a low down dirty shame Message-ID: <199803082200.RAA11432@Vector.inexpress.net> Sweet Lovely People, more silly ramblings from me,feel free to skip! >didn't a while back i read an excerpt of an interview with isobel where >she says that stuart puts himself in the role of a woman and writes >songs about himself. >- -brad that's exactly how I hear/see it..I never saw the 'gay anthem' i always saw me and the record store boy 'kissing just for practice' which reminds me..I liked hearing cuddle/muddle for the rhyming bit when I first heard it...no one seems to use the word muddle... >Date: Sun, 8 Mar 98 19:14:44 GMT >From: susannah >Subject: Sinister: I sense a bent ballad >5) avid art stud oh my...I can FEEL the sexiness offa this one here...avid art stud..rrrrowww... Damn you,all with your winning smiles and pique-niques!Hey..I have the PERFECT location for a picnic....Rupert,Quebec! Alright,so there are not many 'attractions' but there are trees,big trees..and mountains..Forget about those expensive spa treatments...you can mud wrestle in the creek!Yessss!All in favour? *a tumbleweed blows by* Fine! Me and Old Man Withers are gonna have a blast,playing turkeyfoot and hula hooping to Dog On Wheels... oh,I like my Pastels single,the girls voice feels so familiar! SHe reminds me of someone..I don't know who...and I feel stupid,I thought one bit she was going 'You harchie bastard!' and I find out it is 'you hired cheap actors' and I'm not gonna go on about it but i got a phone call eek eek and anyways it made ME squeal..umm..anyways... I trying to get an anagram and now I feel dumb.. I love my cats even more!They miss me so much,I come back and all my widdle baby wants is attention! I think people should take advice from this,do you know how happy I would be to come home and find oh I dunno...say a record store boy wanting his tummy scratched! alright,NOW I should go! xoxox Genevieve limericks are easier than anagrams so: from you,my love,records I buy for you to love me,how I try! do not hesitate anymore here is a nice floor and when you ignore me,I cry OR my cutie works in a record store he's always going behind that back door he looks good in flares he just doesn't care of him i would like to see more (oh so that's why they told me to give up writing!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sun Mar 8 22:04:53 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:04:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: can't..stop...writing... Message-ID: <199803082204.RAA11507@Vector.inexpress.net> >Oh dear, the visions were a bit blurry at that point, all I could see >was the terrifying future for Scottish male Leos in Australia. But I >see more clearly now: I see a log cabin in Sweden, a plate of crepes >and maple syrup, and a Leo girl being being waited on hand and foot by >a record store boy and a Milhouse-a-like bass player, while her >sparkly orange husband herds reindeer and gathers fuel for a roaring >fire ... A lovely Tag lives in a cabin those tears he is a dabbin' i asked why he cried to which he replied "och lassie,from alla yer blabbin'!" So..I'm gonna stop ..really I am,I just have to say .i like that horoscope MUCH better... getting...mental...pictures....hmmmmmm... xoxoxo Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Weiland643 at xxx.com Sun Mar 8 22:04:49 1998 From: Weiland643 at xxx.com (Weiland643) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:04:49 EST Subject: Sinister: a low down dirty shame Message-ID: > from you,my love,records I buy > for you to love me,how I try! > do not hesitate anymore > here is a nice floor > and when you ignore me,I cry > > OR > my cutie works in a record store > he's always going behind that back door > he looks good in flares > he just doesn't care > of him i would like to see more AGG! LISA! sound a bit familiar?!?! record store boys!! ack bah shoot me in the head hello. blink i like the poems. hauntingly familiar. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Sun Mar 8 13:28:13 1998 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 08 Mar 1998 13:28:13 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <0.13816962@andyclin.exnet.com> Hi, Sinisters ! >Shirley W. wrote " I want to know if anyone positively *doesn't* like Nick Drake?" Yeah! I don't! >Special message for Susannah from Stuart David: if you're going >to send him any more nudey pictures, please send make them nudey ones of yourself. At least we have an idea of Stuart D's sexuality, then! >Shirley W. wrote: "Oh and finally everyone who doesn't use their porn name this week will be banned - >remember - pet's name + mothers maiden name." I never had any pets, and my parents never married. What should I do? An unlucky bastard aka Rocker P.S. Don't worry, Paulhoney, there are many of us older than you on the list, we just don't like to admit it! (At this point there should be one of those winking face things, but I've never bothered to work out how to do such a sad computer nerd-like thing!) (Is an exclamation mark not enough?) Cheer, rocker at andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jrbia at xxx.br Sun Mar 8 23:38:37 1998 From: jrbia at xxx.br (Junior/Fabiana) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 20:38:37 -0300 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk, stephin merrit and you Message-ID: <199803090115.BAA00567@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > just wondering - how many belle and sebastian fans are also fans of the > wonderful magnetic fields and stephin merrit? Er...will someone here hate me if I say that...well...hmm....hahnnn...I like Magnetic Fields...more than I like Belle and Sebastian? Fabiana ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sgawdin at xxx.ca Mon Mar 9 01:26:55 1998 From: sgawdin at xxx.ca (sgawdin at xxx.ca) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 17:26:55 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I'm new and hope not to annoy Message-ID: <3503455F.1960@netcom.ca> Hello, My name is Shawn and I am a huge Morrissey from Vancouver, B.C., Canada and have recently gotten into B&S after having them recommended to me by friends on Panic the Morrissey list. Hello to the people I talked briefly to on #sinister (I was MozBoy). Too be honest, when I first heard the Sinister album I all I could think was YIKES! sounds like someone is ripping off Donovan. But I recently got ahold of the Lazy Line Painter Jane CD as well as a 7" of 3..6..9 Seconds Of Light and was blown away by Jane as well as A Century Of Fakers. Fakers reminds me of why I love Morrissey, and the vocals by Monica Queen on Jane are INCREDIBLE! She reminds me of a young Dolly Parton or of Skeeter Davis. Has she done anything else? Solo or with B&S? A couple questions that I hope don't annoy the long timers on this list (I know how new ppl can be a pain so I apologise in advance) What's with the cryptic liner notes that tell you nothing about the band? (That kind of thing was cool when when I was a teeny bopper into Depeche Mode, but now I just find it annoying.) Is Jeepster their own label? (I have a feeling I should check the faq) WTF don't they reissue their first album? Can't they afford it? Or is it some snobby reason? Has any of their stuff charted in the UK? (I try to avoid the eNMEy) I looked briefly at the last digest on the Sinister site, and noticed what seems to be a discussion about the lead guys sexuality based upon a couple songs, my question is: Does the lyric "My brother confessed that he was gay/ It took the heat off me for a while" imply that the speaker is gay? What is he trying to avoid people finding out about him? (BTW boys I'm single ;) ) Also, what's with the stuff about "...I was moved to kick the crutches/ from my crippled friend"? An act of violence? Or an act of charity considering that he next seems to suggest that he somehow healed this friend? (OK I just confused myself) That's all for now, I don't want the welcome mat rolled up yet. Shawn ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tax at xxx.br Mon Mar 9 02:12:24 1998 From: tax at xxx.br (Andre *Tax* Takeda) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 23:12:24 -0300 Subject: Sinister: tigermilk, stephin merrit and you Message-ID: <01bd4b00$cd2fff80$2cd2f8c8@tax.poa.nutecnet.com.br> >Er...will someone here hate me if I say that...well...hmm....hahnnn...I >like Magnetic Fields...more than I like Belle and Sebastian? >Fabiana How can I hate you if I love you? Kisses, babe. :o* Andre *Tax* Takeda "I DON'T PRAY TO ANYONE EXCEPT THE ONE I LOVE" - Primal Scream ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sgawdin at xxx.ca Mon Mar 9 03:23:06 1998 From: sgawdin at xxx.ca (sgawdin at xxx.ca) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 19:23:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: Douglas Coupland Message-ID: <3503609A.41C5@netcom.ca> Hi, I was taking a peek-a-boo at the archive to get a feel for this list and noticed something from I guess last week about Coupland's new book Girlfriend In A Coma. I read it Friday night and counted 10 Smiths/Moz song references. (but then I would count such things). Shawn ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lrsim2 at xxx.au Mon Mar 9 15:11:04 1998 From: lrsim2 at xxx.au (Musicman) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 15:11:04 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <1014CDA5523@mfs06.cc.monash.edu.au> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From goldenchld at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 04:35:31 1998 From: goldenchld at xxx.com (Amy Golden) Date: Sun, 08 Mar 1998 20:35:31 PST Subject: Sinister: linguistic trainspotting Message-ID: <19980309043531.17632.qmail@hotmail.com> Say, since this list has already tackled spawny gits & the bar vs. biscuit conundrum, I was hoping someone could take a crack at the significance of 'pants.' Clearly, it is undesirable to be deemed pants, but why? To Americans pants are just, I guess you'd say, 'trousers.' Surely there are more disagreeable items of apparel to be compared to: jock strap, thong, adult diaper... Please explain. Lynne St. Andrews (ooh, that does have a certain ring) a.k.a. Natasha Claiborne a.k.a. Amy Golden ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Ryanerik at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 05:36:27 1998 From: Ryanerik at xxx.com (Ryanerik) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 00:36:27 EST Subject: Sinister: linguistic trainspotting Message-ID: In a message dated 98-03-08 23:42:16 EST, you write: << Say, since this list has already tackled spawny gits & the bar vs. biscuit conundrum, I was hoping someone could take a crack at the significance of 'pants.' Clearly, it is undesirable to be deemed pants, but why? To Americans pants are just, I guess you'd say, 'trousers.' Surely there are more disagreeable items of apparel to be compared to: jock strap, thong, adult diaper... Please explain. >> Yes. To me, an American, pants are just "trousers" (or slacks, or britches...) What does it mean to be labeled "PANTS?" does it mean crazy? Unintelligent? I can honestly say I've never heard of someone being called "pants" until i read it on this list... please DO explain. Duke "no pants" Schmidt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Mon Mar 9 07:13:13 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 98 07:13:13 GMT Subject: Sinister: linguistic trainspotting Message-ID: <980309071313.n0009719.tormentor@mail.clara.net> on 08 Mar 98, Amy Golden wrote... >Say, since this list has already tackled spawny gits & the bar vs. >biscuit conundrum, I was hoping someone could take a crack at the >significance of 'pants.' Clearly, it is undesirable to be deemed pants, >but why? To Americans pants are just, I guess you'd say, 'trousers.' >Surely there are more disagreeable items of apparel to be compared to: >jock strap, thong, adult diaper... Please explain. Indeed. Pants in the U.K. are undies, and a rather lowly form at that, since high-class undies are either knickers for girls or boxers for boys. Pants really are the sort of sexless things your Mum buys you, at least thats what they imply when you say 'Pants!' As an insult, something is 'Pants!' if you think it really is crap, e.g. Ocean colour Scene are Pants! Conversely, 'Trousers' is a compliment of the highest order and thus should be used sparingly. If something is 'trousers' it generally is of fantastic taste, humour, style and good looks. Saturn shag anon xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Mon Mar 9 07:15:26 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (A Bad German Man) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:15:26 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Banal, bad eliteness Message-ID: well, having solved Susannah's anagrams collectively with Tag and Megan, I felt that a post was in order. and how about that subject line? anagrams of "Belle and Sebastian" have kept me entertained all afternoon... 1) _If You're Feeling Sinister_ was voted the #1 LP of last year by the DJs at my university radio station, and the _3, 6, 9...Seconds of Light_ 12" was voted the #2 EP of the year. Wooohooo! 2) Tiger's Milk bars are on their way to those who requested them and sent me their addresses. I've still got some left, so if you want one, send me an email. They are spreading like a disease across the globe. When you can't get the album itself, why not settle for a disgusting health bar instead? 3) I saw _Blue Velvet_ this evening at Tag's recommendation. I had two hours to kill this evening after dinner, so I swung by the video lab in the library to watch it. Goodness me. Was embarrassing. Kept blushing and covering the TV screen. No doubt this bizarre film will permeate my subconscious and I will have more dreams for Dr. Minka to decipher in the morning. 4) Upcoming B&S chat! I am looking forward to it, even though I will have to be up before 8AM to be there. Next order of business is seeing if Big Art Bergman will be able to grace us with his presence there (hello Dad!). 5) Less than two weeks till my cross-Atlantic excursion. YEEHAW! Be forewarned. I am on my way. well. time to Grab A Damn Name (more anagram fun with my name, yes) and return to my studies. Right, Dad. I am studying. Really. I am. signing off for now, Amen! a bland jam girl. ------------------ Amanda Jill Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "And like a fool, I walked away and left them my beautiful swan." --Charles Bukowski ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blofeld97 at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 08:58:47 1998 From: blofeld97 at xxx.com (Michael Ryley) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 00:58:47 PST Subject: Sinister: Pants Message-ID: <19980309085848.3871.qmail@hotmail.com> A friend of mine was wondering what 'the British' call their pants (ie. their trousers) since the word "pants" is currently enjoying popularity as a derogatory adjective (like "crap" in many ways I guess). She came up with two possible alternatives: uber-pants, or over-pants. How we laughed.........and laughed. love Michael (with no B&S sorryyyy) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.B.Stride at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 09:24:48 1998 From: C.B.Stride at xxx.uk (Dr C.B.Stride) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:24:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: UK listees: Dance to B&S and other indiepop/C86/pop-punk classic Message-ID: <139232771FB@woodhead.shef.ac.uk> Another month, another Offbeat (but the last until May) ...if any of you listees are coming let me know, and get some early requests in to me now....... OFFBEAT - a real indiepop night....... with late bar, free lollipops and request sheets Sheffield University SU Raynor Lounge (non-students most welcome) 9pm to 1am, £2.50 on the door... FRIDAY 13th March Playing......Classic Indie, Punk POP 1977-1997 and C86/C96/new underground of indiepop..... HELEN LOVE-HEAVENLY-BELLE AND SEBASTIAN-DELGADOS DWEEB-CHAMELEONS-PASTELS-R.E.M.-SMITHS-PAVEMENT- FALL- BLUR-JAM-HALF MAN HALF BISCUIT-TALULAH GOSH- SUPER FURRY ANIMALS-ELASTICA-CURVE-URUSEI YATSURA- BOGSHED-TIGER-SNUFF-DEAD KENNEDYS-PWEI-CARTER USM- DISCO PISTOL- COMET GAIN -VELODROME 2000-ANORAK GIRL STEREOLAB-CHINA DRUM-BLAGGERS ITA- BUZZCOCKS-BIS- WEDDING PRESENT-ASH-SONIC YOUTH-BODINES-PIXIES-CUD PRIMAL SCREAM (early)-GENE-SHOP ASSISTANTS-FIELD MICE CHILLS-PETER AND THE TEST TUBE BABIES-BLUEBOY-SCARFO. plus many more in the same vein...... for more details/to join the Offbeat mailing list email C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk C.B.Stride at Sheffield.ac.uk *** daytime: 0114 2223262 *** *** FAX 0114 2727206 *** ** NEW ** evening: 0114 2306539 ** NEW ** "Watford FC Supporters - South Yorkshire branch" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Mar 8 10:57:31 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 11:57:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Keith's inner turmoil Message-ID: <01bd4a80$fdd1db20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Honey Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: sábado 7 de marzo de 1998 20:50 Asunto: Re: Sinister: Keith: Is he or isn't he? > >Exactly - as Susannah pointed out Keith's just trying to shag someone >famous. He tried it with Roger Whittaker and now he's trying it with >someone else. I thought the story was a nice comment on this silly >ongoing debate about is-he isnt-he, almost as if someone's been following >it on the list and giggling at it. I enjoyed the story too. I don't think anyone was offended. In keeping with the clear speech campaign, here's my humble opinion: That supposedly gay song never struck me as being gay at all until someone pointed it out. The first thing that ever struck me about B&S was the use of the word "confessed" at the beginning of The State I Am In. I thought oooh you'll get into trouble for that. But I was wrong. Perhaps when people refuse to be drawn on their own sexuality it's to avoid being portrayed as Motley Crue types who say "there are no faggots in this band!". Apologies to Motley Crue if it wasn't them. Anyway, if anyone is even slightly interested in this kind of thing, I heartily recommend the Faber Book of Pop. I know I tend to go on and on, but it really is a good read, putting "pop" music in a wider context. It's also quite...hmmm....refreshing(?) to read about people who don't usually figure in lengend-based music books, people like Sylvester of You Make Me Feel Mighty Real fame. Plenty of stories that make you stop and think. Which may or may not be a good idea, but I personaaly think it's better than the usual rock history books. The Village People story in this month's Mojo magazine is good too. It also contains photos of our old friend Bert Jansch. It would appear that he does exist after all. Which is more than can be said for any of the folk records that they rave over. After a hard day's rifling through record racks I found absolutely none of them. The only thing I found was a folk compilation with Billy Connolly on it, some song about wellies, so that was that. That was a hint... Yours in emotional drainage, Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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I think you must have been to quite >a radical school. Not really, we had some right-wing dinner ladies though, who would force you to eat lashings of school custard. Arse. >Peter Godzilla Miller wrote : >The insomniac badger squasher wrote: You made me reject my spleen When you ran me over this morning. There was blood on the streets again And the view outside the windscreen Of Badgers in pain....etc etc etc. Thankyou Tarby, i don't make a habit of killing badgers, but I do worry about profit-driven organisations being responsible for the removal of dead animals from Devons roads. I have visions of Highways Mtce men waiting by the side of the M5 with a big box of Bonio (or something akin) going " 'Ere Badger Badger". >BBC 2's perennial favourite "Call My Bluff", am I right? Come come now Mr Miller, I think you can do better than that. Lucy Croxford. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 10:39:07 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 10:39:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My Inner Turmoil Message-ID: <01bd4b47$969aa3c0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Just a big thanks to the great Mr.Tim Hopkins who popped up to Edinburgh for a visit this weekend, and whom enjoyed a big trawl throught the record shops, Tim managed to find a CD he'd been looking for for years which was great, and also noticed that I gave a few hints away to my sexuality whilst in Professor Plastic's vinyl emporium when he caught me rifling throught the old punk singles and pointed out that this liking of Prog rock's obviously just a big cover up and that I'm actually a punk at heart. To which I had to agree, and disagree and then agree again. Later when Mr.Hopkins said goodbye, myself, Paul and Linda ajourned for something to eat we realised that Mr.Hopkins had not left, but had instead only made it a further 10 metres down the street and had stopped in the next record shop... that's dedication for you. Cheers, Keith. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rod at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 11:34:42 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 11:34:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: linguistic trainspotting In-Reply-To: <980309071313.n0009719.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, susannah wrote: > Indeed. Pants in the U.K. are undies, and a rather lowly form at that, since > high-class undies are either knickers for girls or boxers for boys. > Pants really are the sort of sexless things your Mum buys you, at least thats > what they imply when you say 'Pants!' > As an insult, something is 'Pants!' if you think it really is crap, e.g. > Ocean colour Scene are Pants! It does have the interesting irony that describing something as "The Pants" is a good thing, in much the same way as the bee's knees, or the mutt's nuts. cv. "Have you heard the new Delgados single? It's the pants!" "Big Women's Knickers!" "That's right, Father" Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I'm a Computer Science undergraduate. Please have sympathy. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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I am looking forward to it, even though I will have >to be up before 8AM to be there. i have a few questions about this chat thing... what time will it be held? also, is it on undernet or efnet, or somewhere else? im sure these are answered somewhere at the website, but im dumb and i havent been able to find them.. i think it's too early in the morning.. i went to #sinister on both undernet and efnet.. at the efnet one, everyone was speaking sweedish, and i never got around to talking about the band.. undernet was empty until people with nicks like ^SATAN^ started coming. i said something about b&s and they had no idea who they were.. hehe, it was a channel for truly sinister people.. when do the belle and sebastian sinister people meet? it's supposed to snow here this week.. sigh, i hate winter.. teri ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Mar 9 12:20:25 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:20:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: irc for you and me In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980309120339.00676e98@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: > i have a few questions about this chat thing... what time will it be held? > also, is it on undernet or efnet, or somewhere else? im sure these are > answered somewhere at the website, but im dumb and i havent been able to > find them.. i think it's too early in the morning.. Er.. yeah I'll admit it's not obvious. It's held on a less public net - Virgin's own which has one server, "chat.virgin.net", so users who are used to using IRC will need to connect there. Please see my WWW pages at http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/#chat (which I'll add this to!) Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From djf9 at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 12:37:51 1998 From: djf9 at xxx.uk (D.J. Frazer) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 12:37:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Lyricular Particulars Message-ID: <14.199803091237@harrier.le.ac.uk> Please could someone inform me of a lyric from a B&S song which I cant quite work out with my own inadequate ear/brain combo. The song in question is the 'hidden' track at the end of the 3..6..9.. Seconds of Light EP. I know 'Belle and Sebestian...on the radio...playing songs for children' and the bit that goes'sorry for all the trouble we've caused' but there is another line which sounds like it ends in the word lunatic but this is what i am unsure of. Any smart ear/brain combo out there willing to divulge this valuable information? Thankyou, Daniel. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From D.L.Cooper at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 12:49:58 1998 From: D.L.Cooper at xxx.uk (J. Michael Stipe) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:49:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Auf wiedersehen, pet ! Message-ID: <3503E576.6657@smtphostu.dur.ac.uk> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Mar 9 15:02:12 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:02:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Tarbuck Turmoil Message-ID: <01bd4b6c$56e8f220$734d05c3@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Adrian Evans Para: 'Sinster' Fecha: lunes 9 de marzo de 1998 12:46 Asunto: Sinister: Motorway Maintenance Unit >BBC 2's perennial favourite "Call My Bluff", am I right? Come come now Mr Miller, I think you can do better than that. Indeed I can. After an entire weekend spent scratching my ever-expanding bald patch, it finally dawned on me that the line in question (we have a difference of opinion Jeffrey) did in fact come from a programme hosted by the aforementioned Jimmy Tarbuck. I can't for the life of me remember what it was....it wasn't "Whose Baby", that was Leslie Crowther and Phil Lynott.....it wasn't "Play Your Cards Right", that was Bruce Harris.....but it was something vaguely connected to the world of gambling, ten to one shots and so on. Regular viewers may be amused to hear that I managed to thump myself in the gob today when my shoelace broke as I was doing it up. I knocked myself right over and made my mouth bleed, but somehow managed to retain consciousness. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Mar 9 15:12:09 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:12:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Lyricular Particulars In-Reply-To: <14.199803091237@harrier.le.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, D.J. Frazer wrote: > Please could someone inform me of a lyric from a B&S song which I cant quite > ... > Any smart ear/brain combo out there willing to divulge this valuable > information? Again - check the WWW site below. There's a set of guitar tabs ("sheet music") but it's probably not obvious that they contain the lyrics as well. Even if you haven't got WWW you can get them via email - see the introductory message when you joined the list. Even better, follow my link to David's Fan Club site where ALL the lyrics are - again from the page below. Honestly - there's lots of stuff on the connected WWW sites including an FAQ explaining all about Tigermilk the band etc etc. As a very last resort do a search from the site on the mailing list archives. You'll even find something on baked beans. Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Mon Mar 9 12:32:03 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:32:03 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm new and hope not to annoy References: <3503455F.1960@netcom.ca> Message-ID: <3503E143.1C0AC521@virgin.net> sgawdin at netcom.ca wrote: Hello Shawn, welcome to sinister! :) > Is Jeepster their own label? (I have a feeling I should check the faq) hmmmm, yeah, you're probably right about checking the faq, but i don't mind and anyway, it gives me a chance to plug the label .. .hooray! Jeepster was set up by two blokies in 1996 called Mark and Stef. Belle and Sebastian were the first band they signed to release records (anyone who can name the one who we didn't release record for wins ... well, nothing really! no answers to the list please or paul will kill me!) and we now have another two bands, snow patrol and Salako. Jeepster are completely independent with no major record label funding and we listen to ALL the demo tapes (well, Mark does anyway) that are sent in. If anyone ever needs to get into contact for any reason, here's the details: Jeepster 217 Canalot 222 Kensal Road London W10 5BN ph: 0181 964 9432 or 0181 964 9434 fax: 0181 964 8600 e-mail: jeepster.uk at virgin.net (if anyone can help me as to how the hell i add that as a signature file ... well, an edited version anyway ... all nice and symmetrically placed, please mail me ... i can't bloody do it!) anyway, we should have a proper web-site set up soon (David ...!) and that will hopefully have vids and sounds and stuff to show you all how luverly we are! i think most sinisterines are going to LOVE Salako ... they sound like "the gates of heaven opening up and a hundred angels beckoning you inside" thanks for letting me dribble on ... sorry to everyone i bored. cheers, Katrina (who will not use her porn-name, 'cos Stuart David thinks it sounds like a 50's Hollywood star ... and we weouldn't want that would we!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pasty at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 23:32:28 1998 From: pasty at xxx.com (JOSEPH FOSTER) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 15:32:28 -0800 Subject: Sinister: little green rosetta Message-ID: <35047C0C.7B30@geocities.com> Helloooo. I never got over watching 'Grosse Point Blank' and I'll never forget how good 80's music could be ( check out the two soundtracks available for proof, if proof is needed ) but all these lists are really beginning to bug me. Whine whine whine. I rather like my pseudonyme of 'Mark Ambleside', dosen't it make me sound mysterious and exciting (NO. Sorry, it dosen't, Joe). But I think that my porn star name may be a bit better..... ....Harry Currie. or Flash Currie. Oh and finally Mogwai and Ariel M at the wedgewood rooms was the BESTEST gig ever in the whole wide world. But I must admit to never having seen B&S live (yet). And last, has anyone heard the new Urusei Yatsura LP? Is it any good?# OK, bye. Joe Pastie ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pberry at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 16:01:14 1998 From: pberry at xxx.com (Pam Berry) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 11:01:14 -0500 Subject: Sinister: b&s picnic in mt. pleasant Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980309110109.006a849c@washcp.com> morning/afternoon all, this weekend I was knocking around some ideas for a washington, dc b&s picnic with my next door neighbor megan who's on this list (she rarely posts but those of you familiar with the porn industry may recognize the name nimrod the grinder lumpkin) and we're thinking we should have a stateside picnic cookout in my backyard, saturday, may 9. we had hoped to have it on the same day as you all over the atlantic, but we don't get monday the fourth off and the grinder has to study for final exams may day weekend. rock creek park was a site for consideration, but they won't allow us to bring in that demon alcohol...if we do it in my backyard, between the three of us on the list who live on monroe st. alone we'll have an abundance of grills for separation of veggie and non-veggie skewers, easy turntable access, and enough fridges to keep the beer and devilled eggs chilly. it's not that we're too lazy to walk down to the park, really. room for/love of board games? we've got it. any dc/virginia/maryland listpeople up for this sort of thing? let me know privately at pberry at washcp.com and we'll work out details. cheers, pam a.k.a. (internationally revered porn star) hamilton frederick bohannon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 15:54:00 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:54:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My Inner Turmoil Message-ID: <199803091557.PAA18517@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> So anyway, I arrived In Edinburgh, looking forward to meeting friends and associates at the annual convention of the Scottish Presbyterian Temperance Society, of which I am an enthusiastic honorary member. The fellow at my hotel had recommended a quiet and respectable tea room at which to lunch, by the name of Berts, and had suggested I try their unusual form of decaffeinated tea, which is served by the pint and is named Deuchars IPA. He had a strange and twisted smile on his face, I remember. I am not sure why. The tea was uncommonly good, and I was enjoying my third or fourth cup when I was accosted by all manner of unruly youths, who spoke in an argot I could barely comprehend. They seemed to be addressing each other as 'Paul', 'Linda' and 'Keith'. This latter individual had a strange tan on his neck, as if he would ordinarily wear some form of roll-necked garment during his daily trawl around the parks and public spaces of Scotland's capital, searching for half-smoked cigarette ends to satisfy his craving. I must own at this point that I was beginning to feel mightily peculiar, a fact which I can only attribute to a mild case of food poisoning, or perhaps the beginnings of a mild influenza due to the inclement Caledonian climate. The rest of the day is something of a blur. I have nightmarish memories of faces mouthing words like 'Amon Duul II' and 'Rod Stewart catsuit', but have no recall of context or, indeed, what these words might mean. I seem to remember being on some form of low-life emporium, where the owner was advising dubious looking types on music for porn films and something about French ladies. The denizens called him 'Professor', although I cannot believe that I was in any normal kind of educational establishment. I awoke on Sunday morning to the confirmation that I was indeed subject to a bout of the 'flu, so incapacitated did I feel. I had not only missed the convention with my fellow abstainers, but had also missed morning prayer. Next to my makeshift parkbench bed was a pile of foul-smelling vomit and a bag of popular music records. I wonder if you friendly and godly chaps on this mailing list might help me to work out where I have been, what happened to me and who the young ruffians I met might be, by analysing the names of the records? They were by the folowing artists: Nathan Abshire, Tricky (an unpleasant ditty called 'Polygram Is A Nigger', whatever that might mean), The Gaylads, George Jones, Irma Thomas, Starbound, Volume 10, Oliver Sain and Ninjaman. I also appear to have been relieved of a rather large quantity of money during the hours of my unfortunate incapacity. I would appreciate any help you may be able to give me on what may have happened during my 'lost' hours, or why my influenza appeared to clear up so very quickly (within the day, indeed). Yours hopefully Hopkins ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ah6991 at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 16:31:47 1998 From: ah6991 at xxx.uk (Adam the Fool) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 16:31:47 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: SINISTER: Sensitive = Gay? Message-ID: Sensitive quiet guys aren't more likely to be gay. It's just that loud, noticable ones ones are more likely to pull and so any sensitive straight guy is going to have a much harder time of it reproducing. That's natural selection for you. I reckon that this particular debate is alright as long as people look in the archives to see if it's been said already. With the wait for the new releases its any port in a storm (even if it is more of a dead calm). > Shawn Wrote: > My name is Shawn and I am a huge Morrissey from Vancouver, Sorry. This just makes me laugh uncontrollably. Love Adam the smartarse AKA Llama Hind Man (anagram) AKA Idi Amin Gaynor (porn star) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Life *is* like a box of chocolates. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jbleasdale at xxx.net Mon Mar 9 17:08:23 1998 From: jbleasdale at xxx.net (John Bleasdale) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:08:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ep's Message-ID: <01BD4B7D.F83BB660@jbleasdale-pc.rmplc.co.uk> Hiya, I was fortunate enough to pick up promo copies of the three CD ep's at a record fair in Oxford last Saturday and along with the press releases on the back, the Dog on Wheels EP also says "500 only". Were there only ever 500 CD's or 500 promos? The first seems too few and the latter too many. Any ideas? John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mb73072 at xxx.edu Mon Mar 9 17:07:25 1998 From: mb73072 at xxx.edu (Mark Burden) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 09:07:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Northwest U.S. Message-ID: Hey, I know people ask this all the time, but I can't resist asking if there's anyone in Oregon, Washington, or just in the U.S. who could hook me up with Tigermilk and E.P.'s. Also curious about U.S. touring info. I'd be so grateful Hey - what are some good places to visit or just hang out at in London? I'm visiting in a few weeks. Clubs, bars, record stores etc... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Mon Mar 9 17:34:57 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 17:34:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: AIDS benefit gig Message-ID: <35042841.8A6BFCE6@virgin.net> Hello all, just a quick reply to all those who asked for the set-list for the B&S AIDS benefit gig ... well, Neil loves you all and wanted to let you know that it is as follows (sorry Neil!!): Curtis Mayfield - You Must Believe Me - sung by Stevie Jackson Beck - Rowboat - sung by Richard Colburn Jesus and Mary Chain - Some Candy Talking - sung by Sarah Orange Juice - In A Nutshell - sung by Isobel * The Left Banke - Something On My Mind - sung by Stuart Murdoch * the two * tracks were both performed at the Manchester gigs too! i know you should have looked this up in the archive, but hey, i spose this is easier ... read the faq's everyone (is that what you want me to say paul???) cheerybye, Katrina. (alias a shot ukraine ... ?) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607260m at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 17:41:12 1998 From: 9607260m at xxx.uk (David S Mccarthy) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:41:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: picnics scots and channel five Message-ID: <1AA89AF7D2D@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> I don't think it was pedantic suggesting Glasgowfor a picnic, Edinburgh is a great place for a picnic, but if its preferable to have one for the two cities surely Glasgows the more obvious choice if it's to be a B&S picnic? But either way way its not important a picnic anywhere would be a good idea. On the subject of scottish language, in my experience of being scottish most scots don't speak the Queens english but somthing in between that and Scots, that Burns and many other poets wrote and still write in and which is also to be found in a section of the english higher papers since 1995, its not just an accent, there are lots of different words. But right enough the lyrics to belle and sebastian are written in english. Also did anyone else hear lazy line painter jane being used as background music to a section on channel 5s daytime thing at the weekends, the mag about the RSBP at Lochwinnoch. It was a bright spot in an otherwise boring day. Is anyone else starting to like channel 5 as well? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From dr_matrix at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 18:39:09 1998 From: dr_matrix at xxx.com (tyler ley) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 12:39:09 CST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19980309183909.11391.qmail@hotmail.com> unsubscribe sinister ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Mon Mar 9 18:59:12 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:59:12 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S treehouse Message-ID: Message from Stuart David. I quote verbatim to avoid legal action. "Okay, I'm building a treehouse on the internet. And one of the things in it will be a Venue. And there will be Internet concerts there. Hopefully accoustic sessions from Isobel, Stevie, and Stuart. And other bands too. Maybe one a month. The first trial one, I'll do a really boring reading." What he means is, download RealPlayer 5.0 from www.real.com if you want to join in prospective fun, if in fact the cellos don't break and something actually happens. You'll be kept posted here if it does. Honey xxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ajb882 at xxx.edu Mon Mar 9 19:15:11 1998 From: ajb882 at xxx.edu (ajb882 at xxx.edu) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 13:15:11 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: My Inner Turmoil In-Reply-To: <199803091557.PAA18517@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: tim my boy, you are HYSTERICAL. i don't have time to write much, as i am on my sister's computer in her house because we had a huge snowstorm here today and as a result, most of campus lost electricity (i panicked when i realized i was to be sans chat!) but i wanted to let you know that the check is in the mail, for that records guy, and your merchandise should be arriving in the very near future. if you don't see chris north or whatever that blackpool records guy's name is, let me know so i can call him and hound his ass. okay? /me grins take care and write soon, AmandaSwan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mick at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 19:23:05 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 14:23:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: AIDS benefit gig References: <35042841.8A6BFCE6@virgin.net> Message-ID: <35044199.6D61E4C1@indiepop.com> Jeepster Recordings Ltd wrote: > just a quick reply to all those who asked for the set-list for the B&S > AIDS benefit gig ... well, Neil loves you all and wanted to let you know > that it is as follows (sorry Neil!!): > > Curtis Mayfield - You Must Believe Me - sung by Stevie Jackson > Beck - Rowboat - sung by Richard Colburn > Jesus and Mary Chain - Some Candy Talking - sung by Sarah > Orange Juice - In A Nutshell - sung by Isobel * > The Left Banke - Something On My Mind - sung by Stuart Murdoch * AHHHHH!!! They covered the Left Banke!!!? Oh...is there any way I might get a recording of either one of the gigs they played it at? Does anyone have a bootleg of the show they might trade me for a tape of something or a different bootleg? Please e-mail me privately... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 20:03:12 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:03:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: incidental muzak Message-ID: <35044B00.3B01@seahouses.u-net.com> Talking of B&S music in programmes, on some kids thing on BBC2 Sunday morning presented by that Katy off of Blue Peter, they were using a loop of 'Like Dylan In The Movies', just the opening looped over and over...whilst some kiddies looked at machinery or something. Bluddy graet it were, I'm telling yer JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 20:31:23 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:31:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm new and hope not to annoy References: <3503455F.1960@netcom.ca> Message-ID: <3504519B.4667CE8A@totalweb.co.uk> we created the FAQ to hopefully stem the flow of questions such as the ones below, please use it and free the list a bit more. all of the questions below ARE answered in the FAQ or in the biog that is linked from the FAQ. thanks david kitchen sgawdin at netcom.ca wrote: > Is Jeepster their own label? (I have a feeling I should check the > faq) > > WTF don't they reissue their first album? Can't they afford it? Or > is it some snobby reason? > > Has any of their stuff charted in the UK? (I try to avoid the eNMEy) -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 20:50:52 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 20:50:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: www sites Message-ID: <3504562C.9A1BE720@totalweb.co.uk> this will hopefully give you an idea of what there is on belle and sebastian on the internet. i've attached a web page file which will document all the key sites (i.e. unique in content). it doesn't actually give details of what is on the fanclub site though, but the link for that is below. enjoy re/discovering the resources david -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, biog, links, fiction, news, FAQ http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim-bob at xxx.net Mon Mar 9 21:18:50 1998 From: jim-bob at xxx.net (jim-bob) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 21:18:50 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Channel 5?!? Message-ID: <199803092123.VAA19204@boober.lineone.net> David S Mccarthy wrote, at the end of an otherwise perfectly respectable email: "Is anyone else starting to like channel 5 as well?" I'm sure you're a really nice bloke, 'n' all that, Dave, but do you really think this statement can ever be justified, even if every other Channel was playing a rerun of "Right Here, Right Now - the Oasis Rockumentary"? I live on the Greater London/Surrey border, and many people can't get C5, in the shadow of the North Downs. I however, as one other person on sinister can testify, live high on a hill, in full view of that glorious Crystal Palace transmitter. I get absolutely perfect quality pictures, and it still looks like a bunch of arse. Perhaps it would be better not to have good reception: At least then, you could stare at the fuzz and try to look for autostereograms. I now realise that I have not backed up this outburst with any factual content at all. So I give you "100% Gold". Taking it as your typical C5 programme may not be fair, but any channel that dares to show such pointless drivel should immediately be disconnected. Actually, on the plus side, I heard that they're thinking of increasing the power of the Crystal Palace signal, so that everyone can get it. The only thing is, they don't know whether it's going to interfere with television just across the English Channel. Please do, as it would certainly drive all the French mad, and they'd get out an EU directive to ban C5 from ever broadcasting again. Aaah, that's better... I feel much calmer now. jim-bob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Mon Mar 9 21:27:46 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 15:27:46 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: foolish me In-Reply-To: References: <199803091557.PAA18517@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: please pardon that last mail to the list. i was on telnet. i made a mistake. as penance, I am offering tigermilk/sessions tapes to stateside listees that might still be in need. email me privately (as in off the list, which I will be certain never to mix up in the future) to work out details, if you're interested. hanging my head in shame, Amanda ------------------ Amanda Jill Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "And like a fool, I walked away and left them my beautiful swan." --Charles Bukowski ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ButchDone at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 22:18:00 1998 From: ButchDone at xxx.com (ButchDone) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 17:18:00 EST Subject: Sinister: Re-Lyrical Particulars. Message-ID: <84f0f6f7.35046a9a@aol.com> Danial wrote...... <> I believe the line in question is "playing songs to learn and sing", presumably a quote reffering to the Echo and the Bunnymen singles compilation of the same name. No doubt someone will have beat me to it, but there you go. Also Peter wrote..... << >BBC 2's perennial favourite "Call My Bluff", am I right? Come come now Mr Miller, I think you can do better than that. Indeed I can. After an entire weekend spent scratching my ever-expanding bald patch, it finally dawned on me that the line in question (we have a difference of opinion Jeffrey) did in fact come from a programme hosted by the aforementioned Jimmy Tarbuck. I can't for the life of me remember what it was....it wasn't "Whose Baby", that was Leslie Crowther and Phil Lynott.....it wasn't "Play Your Cards Right", that was Bruce Harris.....but it was something vaguely connected to the world of gambling, ten to one shots and so on. >> It was called Winner Takes All. Gary ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MRissb7989 at xxx.com Mon Mar 9 23:57:55 1998 From: MRissb7989 at xxx.com (MRissb7989) Date: Mon, 9 Mar 1998 18:57:55 EST Subject: Sinister: Crap name for a band... Message-ID: <7190b2c2.35048206@aol.com> Katrina wrote... >I think most sinisterines are going to LOVE Salako ... >they sound like "the gates of heaven opening up and a hundred angels >beckoning you inside" I don't doubt that they do for a second, but if you think I'm buying anything by a band named after a second rate Coventry City winger.....! Love and kisses Risso ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 00:18:00 1998 From: R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk (Richard Anderson) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 00:18:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Um.. OOps Message-ID: <350486B8.19C6@smtphost.dur.ac.uk> Hi As you may have guessed that Aidans day E-mail wasn't intended for either list. I was drunkish and sent it to everybody on my mail list. Basicaly its an annual piss up at my college at Durham uni, with trinking games t-shirts and frisbee's (like the picnics but with different music). Sorry for any distress caused but you can all laugh at the fact that my dad was on the mailing list as well. Richard Anderson Put your clothes back on, Carol, I can't concentrate. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sgawdin at xxx.ca Tue Mar 10 03:00:30 1998 From: sgawdin at xxx.ca (sgawdin at xxx.ca) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 19:00:30 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: SINISTER: Sensitive = Gay? Message-ID: <3504ACCE.4657@netcom.ca> > Adam the Fool (ah6991 at bristol.ac.uk) > > > Shawn Wrote: > > My name is Shawn and I am a huge Morrissey from Vancouver, > > Sorry. This just makes me laugh uncontrollably. > Please don't be sorry. When I wrote it I realized someone would imagine a sumo wrestler with a quiff. Here's something else funny: A couple months ago when I was looking for a copy of the Sinister album I went into the Virgin Megastore here and asked a clerk if he knew if they had a CD by a group called Belle & Sebastian. He thought a moment and then said, "Oh, I think that would be in the children's music section." (he was thinking of Belle & Sebastian from Disney's Beauty and the Beast) Shawn PS what's with the picnic fetish? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 09:12:01 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 09:12:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Channel 5 Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F88A@RMF1> Even though channel 5 is generaly full of Dros and vegitating entertainment there is one highlight to watching it...... Sarah Cox. I think she's fantastic. Anyone know how I can cook a rainbow trout for my tea tonight, while I listen to Belle & sebastian, should I grill it? Fry it maybe if you think that you know then E-Mail me. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1946 bytes Desc: not available URL: From M.Hester at xxx.UK Tue Mar 10 10:38:31 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:38:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Channel 5 Message-ID: Huw, Yes I think you should grill the trout, but wait! Trout are not especially big, certainly not grouper or barracuda-sized. Are you sure there will be enough for Sarah if you only grill one? TV presenting's exhausting work you know and people work up quite a bit of an appetite! Mark. -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Engineering & Technology Elsevier Science Ltd The Boulevard Kidlington Oxon OX5 1GB UK Tel. +44 1865 843296 Fax +44 1865 853319 E-mail m.hester at elsevier.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Mar 10 11:20:24 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 11:20:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: Truly Scrumptious In-Reply-To: <199803091522.PAA11293@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> References: <199803091522.PAA11293@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <350e21b6.9025437@email.mcmail.com> Oh, er, hello, "Scrumptious Valecka" wrote, and wrote, and wrote, and I am truly thankful: >that's exactly how I hear/see it..I never saw the 'gay anthem' i always saw >me and the record store boy 'kissing just for practice' which reminds me..I >liked hearing cuddle/muddle for the rhyming bit when I first heard it...no >one seems to use the word muddle... Well, I bought a Tami Tyrell record last week, on one song she sings the word 'snuggle'. I thought only Homer Simpson said that, and it made me glad. But poor Tammy, she was so young... >A lovely Tag lives in a cabin >those tears he is a dabbin' >i asked why he cried >to which he replied >"och lassie,from alla yer blabbin'!" Have I told you lately that I love you? A bad German man wrote: >Less than two weeks till my cross-Atlantic excursion. YEEHAW! Be >forewarned. I am on my way. Cinders Bergman, ignore Begbie and Northy, the ugly sisters, you shall go to the ball. Paul is your fairy godmother, Keith and I will be the two fine stallions to draw your carriage, while Swashbuckling, Swarthy Stevie Trousers will be your valet, but will turn back into a pumpkin at midnight. And as for Prince Charming ... Chris, stop being dandy, and show Swannie you're handsome. Silly Billy Miller wrote: >The only thing I found was a folk compilation with Billy Connolly on it, >some song about wellies, so that was that. >That was a hint... Was that 'If it was nae for for your wellies'? Or was it his proto punk anthem 'Stainless steel wellies', memorable for the line 'Put on your barbed wire knickers, baby', which at the age of 10, sounded strangely arousing to me. I once saw Billy Connolly in a baker's in Milngavie. He was rock hard ex-docker turned comedian then, and now he advertises credit cards. Wanker. Teri wrote: >i went to #sinister on both undernet and efnet.. at the efnet one, everyone >was speaking sweedish You're describing my ideal world. Did I mention I was going to Sweden? I'm going to Sweden. That's all. Love Grr! Mr Bottom Catcall xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From intense_intensity at xxx.com Tue Mar 10 12:06:16 1998 From: intense_intensity at xxx.com (Intense meaningfullness) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 04:06:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: my email Message-ID: <19980310120616.28918.rocketmail@send1c.yahoomail.com> hI! my home email has been locked up, so until i get it back can you send me stuf to this adress! sorry i haven't replied to you all for ages...but i only found out it wasn't working yesterday AAAAAHHHH! see you later :) love and hugs! Sarah star ***** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607260m at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 12:31:24 1998 From: 9607260m at xxx.uk (David S Mccarthy) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:31:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: fish and five Message-ID: <1BD5F9822BE@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> What I meant to say about ch 5 is that its might be dross but its watchable dross. Apart from the unwatchable sunset beach which is being axed anyway, most of the programmes pass the time nicely without being too classy or brilliant or anything. Take Xena, watch it once and it seems dire, second time its not as bad as you first thought then 3rd time it becomes good in a taking the piss way. Also if you live in Glasgow it is for some reason the easiest channel to get a good reception on. I know people who live in basement flats and get nothing but ch5. Right enough, they know the names of all the actors and characters in sunset beach and can follow it without dying of boredom and are now scary social outcasts but my point is channel five is ok and better than ITV most of the time and occasionally better than BBC 1. So there. And its the only tv channel on which I have heard B+S played. And, indeed sarah cox is a lovely lady. Also I have memories of my mother cooking rainbow trout seasoned with salt, pepper, + lemon etc wrapped in tin foil and baked in the oven. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 12:42:36 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:42:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: damn, damn , damn Message-ID: <01bd4c22$14e6a1e0$046b9ac2@g5-200-1> Shag satan? No, run! said: >Conversely, 'Trousers' is a compliment of the highest order and thus should be >used sparingly. >If something is 'trousers' it generally is of fantastic taste, humour, style and >good looks. Trousers is also a term of abuse hurled at someone who can't get their "shit" "together" enough to find a poem on a monday. Another Tuesday poem, then. Actually Tuesday might be a better day for a poem, because it *is* the most depressing day of the week. On Mondays' you're refreshed from the weekend, but Tuesdays you still have another 4 days to go before the weekend... Glyn Maxwell is the laureate of Welwyn Garden City. He's published 3 collections to extraordinary acclaim... people have called him the new Auden, which is nice. To compound the Auden comparison he travelled to Iceland with fellow-poet Simon Armitage a while ago, following in the footsteps of Auden and MacNeice, and published a travelogue, "Moon Country", which was rather good. this poem was provoked by being kept awake by a screaming child on an all night train through France. Glyn Maxwell Curse on a Child May the love of your life get on at Ongar And wake up sleeping on Terminal 4. May his anorak grow big with jotters Noting the numbers of trains that he saw. May he read these out in a reedy voice, May he drink real ales with his mates while you Blink in the smoke. May his hair be a joke. May his happiest hour have been spent in Crewe. May he call for you in a lime-green van, May his innermost thoughts be anyone's guest. May his answer to 'Who's your favourite band?' Be the only occasion he answers 'YES,' But then may he add, 'When Wakeman was with 'em,' And play you the evidence. May what he wears Never again be in vogue. May his mother Dote, devote, and move in downstairs. May your French turn frog, may your croissant go straight, May your bread be Hovis, your wine home-made, May your spice be Old Spice, your only lingerie Les fronts-igrec, and your beauty fade. May you curl in the Land of Nod like the child You were when you wouldn't, and screamed all the way >From Perpignan to the Gare de Lyon. Echoed through Paris, and on to Calais. The man in the corner, who sat with his head Awake in his hands, has issued this curse. He is far away now. What keeps him awake Isn't screaming, or crying, or writing verse. It is sometimes nothing but quiet, sloping, My terrible infant, looming and deep. May you never know it. May your life be as boring As men can make it, but, dear, may you sleep. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Tue Mar 10 12:54:19 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 12:54:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ep's References: <01BD4B7D.F83BB660@jbleasdale-pc.rmplc.co.uk> Message-ID: <350537FB.B2898B1B@virgin.net> John Bleasdale wrote: > Hiya, > I was fortunate enough to pick up promo copies of > the three CD ep's at a record fair in Oxford last > Saturday and along with the press releases on the > back, the Dog on Wheels EP also says "500 only". > Were there only ever 500 CD's or 500 promos? > The first seems too few and the latter too many. > Any ideas? Alrighty righty ... here goes: 1st question - who was the press relese from? (Beatwax, Appearing, Jeepster??) The Dog On Wheels EP is NOT limited and there was talk of the vinyl 12" being limited to 500 only when it was first released. This hasn't happened (god knows just how many there are in circulation) but the 5000 thing is basically meaningless. Belle and Sebastian promos are also not worth anything, as there are no differences between the promos and the releases, except for the possibility of a "promo only" sticker over the barcode on the back (along with a beatwax or appearing sticker). when sinister was promo'd, it was given out without the booklet and just stickered "promo only" ... one mail-order retailer was asking £20 for this "promo", and after telling him it wasn't any different and in fact worth less than the actual release he withdrew it from sale. Please don't get sucked in to buying so called UK promo-releases as it will just be the shops making money and you will miss out! There are two rather interesting promos around though, one is a cover mounted cd for the French magazine Les Inrockuptibles and the other an Enclave promo cd containing a couple of their artists. That's all i know of though, except for the different territory releases of sinister (UK, USA, French and Japanese). Ooh, full of info today me! Bydebyebyes, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lucy.munro at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 13:03:09 1998 From: lucy.munro at xxx.uk (LUCY C MUNRO) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:03:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Dullest porn star name? In-Reply-To: <199803091522.PAA11293@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: A bit of a late entry in the porn-star name stakes. The first pets I can remember owning were a pair of guinea pigs called Pewter (as in the metal) and Fred. My mum's maiden name was Evans, so one version of the porn star name would be Fred Evans. Which sounds more like a building contractor. Admittedly Pewter Evans is a bit better, but still not an all time great. Is this what I get for having Welsh ancestors? If you go on middle name and road where you grew up it's Catherine Gravely, which is also rather pants (to use the word du jour). I suppose I'm just not cut out to be a porn star... Not much B&S content, except to say that I made my Dad (50 this month) a mix tape with "Get Me Away from Here I'm Dying" on. I think he liked it, but then he did see Simon and Garfunkle (Garfunkel? can't spell today) at the Royal Albert Hall back in the 60s. Lucy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 10 13:15:55 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:15:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tarbuck in Taramasolata In-Reply-To: <01bd4b6c$56e8f220$734d05c3@itjfvkli> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, PJMiller wrote: > difference of opinion Jeffrey) did in fact come from a programme hosted by > the aforementioned Jimmy Tarbuck. I can't for the life of me remember what > it was something vaguely connected to the world of gambling, ten to one > shots and so on. Winner Takes All. Which is currently being shown on Challenge TV, presented by Bobby "Rock With Laughter" Davro. That aside, Challenge TV is one of the best channels on cable IMO. Last summer, I stayed in a flat with cable, and my Sunday nights were invariably spent laughing at the haircuts on 3-2-1 and being thoroughly bamboozled by the "clues". I met Paul Coia once. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | By day I'm just a sad, lonely geek. But by night I'm... asleep. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 10 13:18:00 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 13:18:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: You're A Satsuma In-Reply-To: <35047C0C.7B30@geocities.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, JOSEPH FOSTER wrote: > And last, has anyone heard the new Urusei Yatsura LP? Is > it any good?# Yes - a truly shiny CD if ever there was one. I thought "We Are" was pretty good, but I already have about 75% of it on 7", whereas the new one is mainly new material, and kicks bottom. I phoned up the 0898 number in NME last week to try and get free tickets for their show in Embra. Has anyone else managed to get tickets from the NME? Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Master of my domain ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Tue Mar 10 14:11:52 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:11:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stuff and nonsense Message-ID: Porn star name.... Bambam Keen. No lies. It's atrocious. If a picnic in Scotland is being organized then I will be there. If it is in the latter half of May only. Who's organizing it? Also, does anyone know if Snow Patrol have had their stuff distributed in Ireland? Anyway the sun is out so I'm going to sit outside and pretend I'm somewhere else, with someone nice. *****sigh****** Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Tue Mar 10 14:13:40 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:13:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Not B&S but BS Message-ID: ...by which I mean Big Star. Bought a CD with their two albums on at the weekend and it is absolutely amazing. The Teenage Fanclub connection is not as obvious as everyone makes out but at least I know where 'Thirteen' comes from. That song is incredible. I know I speak with all the zeal of a recent convert, but there is no denying the power of these guys' music. Do any of you know what has become of Alex Chilton? The sleevenotes tell how Chris Bell died in a car crash but other than saying that Chilton was demoralised and out of music by the 80s nothing more was said. I'd like to hear I am the Cosmos but if any of you have a copy it is probably so valuable that you wouldn't play it, let alone lend it out. -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Engineering & Technology Elsevier Science Ltd The Boulevard Kidlington Oxon OX5 1GB UK Tel. +44 1865 843296 Fax +44 1865 853319 E-mail m.hester at elsevier.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sburon at xxx.fr Tue Mar 10 15:18:08 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (stéphane buron) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:18:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Inrockuptibles Message-ID: <3505599F.7E69@club-internet.fr> Katrina wrote : " There are two rather interesting promos around though, one is a cover mounted cd for the French magazine Les Inrockuptibles " What??? Are you sure it has already been released? One of the compilations made by Les Inroctuptibles has "The Fox in the Snow" on it, but it's not different from the album's version. So do you mean there will be something else that WILL be released/offered by this magazine later??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ah6991 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 16:14:42 1998 From: ah6991 at xxx.uk (Adam the Fool) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:14:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: SINISTER: NO B&S AT ALL!!! IN FACT DON'T EVEN READ ME! YOU WON'T LIKE ME! Message-ID: > > > Shawn Wrote: > > > My name is Shawn and I am a huge Morrissey from Vancouver, > > > > Sorry. This just makes me laugh uncontrollably. > > > Please don't be sorry. When I wrote it I realized someone would > imagine a sumo wrestler with a quiff. I was thinking more of a king-kong sized moz wandering around the streets of vancouver crushing cars accidentally and looking very apologetic. David S Mccarthy wrote: > What I meant to say about ch 5 is that its might be dross but its > watchable dross. Apart from the unwatchable sunset beach which is > without being too classy or brilliant or anything. Take Xena, watch > it once and it seems dire, second time its not as bad as you first > thought then 3rd time it becomes good in a taking the piss way. Sure you want tv to be good, but this just goes to show that it doesn't have to be, it just needs to be on. Insideous eh? I say smash your tv and play on your playstation instead~ Love Idi Amin the fool ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The Earth spins faster on its axis due to deforestation. Just as a figure skater's rate of spin increases when the arms are brought in close to the body, the cutting of tall trees causes our planet to spin dangerously fast. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 14:52:43 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:52:43 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Big Star Message-ID: <01bd4c34$2e7127e0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I know I speak with all the zeal of a recent convert, but there is no >denying the power of these guys' music. Do any of you know what has >become of Alex Chilton? The sleevenotes tell how Chris Bell died in a car >crash but other than saying that Chilton was demoralised and out of >music by the 80s nothing more was said. Alex Chilton does gig occassionally nowadays, played about 8 months ago here, my mate went and apparently he kind of just played a load of jazz stuff and no Big Star stuff which pretty much pissed off everyone who went. Except Kevin the hipster. >I'd like to hear I am the Cosmos but if any of you have a copy it is >probably so valuable that you wouldn't play it, let alone lend it out. I don't think there's any great problems getting a hold of I am the Cosmos, I'm not too sure, maybe Mr.Mitchell, Mr Hopkins and Ms.Kerr can perhaps confirm a sighting of this when we were around the shops on Saturday... it rings a bell for me anyway. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Tue Mar 10 15:31:59 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (aadam at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 10:31:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Big Star(NBSC) References: <01bd4c34$2e7127e0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <35055CEA.309A@interaccess.com> So it was written and replied to: > > Do any of you know what has > >become of Alex Chilton? The sleevenotes tell how Chris Bell died in a car > >crash but other than saying that Chilton was demoralised and out of > >music by the 80s nothing more was said. > > Alex Chilton does gig occassionally nowadays, played about 8 months ago > here, my mate went and apparently he kind of just played a load of jazz > stuff and no Big Star stuff which pretty much pissed off everyone who went. > Except Kevin the hipster. I do believe Alex's main source of income is playing live. He does it a lot in the states. On rare occasions he'll do a "Hits from yesteryear" type thing and have a Box Tops tour. Back in '93 Big Star did a reunion with Jody on drums and the two main fellows from the Posies taking up the slack. They did 4 or 5 shows and were quite wonderful. Alex will do Big Star songs in his solo set, but his real passion seems to be '50's & "60's R&R. He'll do a lot of fun covers that are slightly obscure if the feeling stikes him. > > >I'd like to hear I am the Cosmos but if any of you have a copy it is > >probably so valuable that you wouldn't play it, let alone lend it out. > > I don't think there's any great problems getting a hold of I am the Cosmos, Ryco disc are still printing the CD in America. What is very rare and valuble is the original 7" of IATC. It's the only thing by Chris Bell ever released until the CD was issued. Aadam -- "Unfortunately, in our world, we are taught to think good what we like rather than to like what is good." - Bill Russo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Mar 10 22:10:39 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:10:39 -0800 Subject: Sinister: not a drop to drink Message-ID: <3505BA5F.35C6@earthlink.net> water water everywhere. hello sinisterines. i'm just taking a short break from the living hell i'm in at the moment to say hello. i'm gonna get straight to the point: my house is underwater. we had a huge flood in '94 and they said it wouldn't happen again for 100 years......well, they were off by 96 years. i got the computer and my clothes and the music out before it went under. i'm a sitting in a holiday inn three towns away at the moment. when the police came around with the big evacuation bullhorn they were screaming through, the first thing i grabbed to load onto the truck was my cds and records. i got strange looks all around from both family and law officials. anyway, i'm not looking for pity or anything. i just wanted to let everyone know that if your house is ever under twelve feet of water, make sure you grab all your records and cds. those are the things that aren't replaceable and they're the most important anyway, right? -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Mark.Howson at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 16:57:31 1998 From: Mark.Howson at xxx.uk (Mark Howson) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 16:57:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dullest porn star name [minimal B&S] In-Reply-To: References: <199803091522.PAA11293@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19980310165731.0077a014@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> >A bit of a late entry in the porn-star name stakes. The first pets I can >remember owning were a pair of guinea pigs called Pewter (as in the metal) >and Fred. My mum's maiden name was Evans, so one version of the porn star >name would be Fred Evans. Which sounds more like a building contractor. Ouch. Well, I've never had any pets, apart from a goldfish when I was 10, and he (she? it?) didn't have a name. I guess I could use my sisters' goldfish, which makes me Bubbles Barson. I dunno, that doesn't sound quite right. If I use the street name, I get.... Ian Ivy. Am I just unlucky? Or am I just not cut out to be a top porn star? Oh, and last night I thought I'd listen to Tigermilk again. Pressed 'Play' and heard a low pitched growl, followed by a stuttering noise. Stupid Sony filthy stupid walkman had wrapped the tape around its insides... Don't worry - I've recovered it. Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ooon at xxx.th Tue Mar 10 17:23:24 1998 From: ooon at xxx.th (ooon) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 00:23:24 +0700 Subject: Sinister: another B&S/honeydream + boxing queen Message-ID: <3505770C.2FA6@samart.co.th> well, i really don't think many people would want to know about this. but i hope speaking out would help it go off my head a bit. it was very early this year and goes something like this... i was watching tv. in some chat show. Honey was a guest. (this Honey is in reality a famous model(nude sometimes i think)/singer/actress in thailand) the host asked her why she disappeared lately. (in reality she got married and have 5 kids or something) she said she was busy running a belle & sebastian mailing list. the host said 'ahhh what a fabulous band'. much exciting noise from studio audience. Honey reached into her handbag and brought out her vinyl copy of Tigermilk, revealing that actually the girl on the cover was her (laughing viciously) then jumped up and sang her tiger song. ('Tiger/Tigress' was her first hit single 7-8 years ago. she's no good singer but interesting to look at in those tiger outfit) at this point i was waken up, to my immense relieve that it was just a dream. i can't really tell in english how rather sordid it all was. it haunts me until this day. everytime i read Paul's message, Honey's face will pop up in my head saying those words. makes me feel funny in both sense of the word. i know how stupid this is and i sincerely hope Paul won't get offended! i swear i've been trying to replace her face with your baby photo but it's not fully successful yet. SIGH... ok, now that i'm posting something i might as well tell you another story. i remember Stuart M was a boxer? this sounds very much a B&S story to me anyway. a headline news over here recently was about a boy who loves boxing and quite good at it. 17 knockouts out of 20 matches, if i remember correctly. he happens to be gay. what makes the news is that he is a very girly gay person, ie. wearing full on makeup/perfume every fight, spending 2 hours in the shower, giving interview hugging his favourite fluffy toy, etc. never saw him fight myself but i was told that once in the ring he turns out to be quite beasty, very good with his feet and knees. i cannot imagine the abuse he must have been through doing what he does. at least he's got support from his mother. nice to see people doing things their own way and happen to achieve something out of it! i'll shut up now. muchlove, oon (no middle name, sorry Paul :) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Tue Mar 10 18:07:06 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 10 Mar 98 18:07:06 Subject: Sinister: B&S : Snow Patrol : Availability in Ireland : Thanks, Katrina Message-ID: <9803102313.AA7408@mail.irlgov.ie> 1. Claire Timmins wrote: > Porn star name.... Bambam Keen. No lies. It's atrocious. It's better than Daisy Coyne. > Also, does anyone know if Snow Patrol have had their stuff distributed in Ireland? Thanks to Katrina of Jeepster, I know that there's only a week to go. I had trouble finding the B&S EPs and Katrina told me of Road Records at 16b Fade Street, Dublin 2 (near Hogan's pub, South Great George's St) ... phone 01 6717340 fax 01 6747342. They had all 3 S&B EPs, none of which I could find anywhere else in Dublin. It's a new shop - not in the local phone books yet. Plus, the woman there is a B&S fan and is confident they will get a big attendance _when_ they come to Ireland. She told me they sold a lot of B&S before Christmans. And they tell me they will have the SP single in about a week. Thanks, Katrina, for info. about Road Records: it's a bit off my beaten track. 2. Lucy Munro wrote: > Not much B&S content, except to say that I made my Dad (50 this month) a >mix tape with "Get Me Away from Here I'm Dying" on. I think he liked it, >but then he did see Simon and Garfunkle (Garfunkel? can't spell today) at >the Royal Albert Hall back in the 60s. Great to see the ages creeping up and there's nothing to cheer up us old folk like songs about dying. Like me, he probably loves that little piece by Paul Simon, too, on the "alternative" version of The Boxer where he sings: "I'm older now than once I was I'm younger than I'll ever be again" :-) Martin C. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pasty at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 02:28:41 1998 From: pasty at xxx.com (JOSEPH FOSTER) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:28:41 -0800 Subject: Sinister: teachers and the music that they adore Message-ID: <3505F6D9.5D3@geocities.com> There is a head of year (year 6 I think) at my old secondary school, who has the pleasure of teaching my brother Dj and all his friends. She gave an assemble about popular music, and to gain herself much needed 'streed cred', with the 'kids', admitted that she was pretty fasionable because she quite liked Dire Straights. And she has a head like a microphone. And she smells. And she put me in bottom set for french. My brother has bin known to tap her on the head and say testing.......testing.....1, 2, 3. Honestly. Tut tut. See y'all. Harry Currie. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Tue Mar 10 19:51:21 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 14:51:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Satsumas, love & the eNMEy Message-ID: <199803101452_MC2-363A-2A65@compuserve.com> hello spacebots, Yes indeed, the new Urusei Yatsura lp is truely a thing of beautious and spangly wonderment. I would advise all you classy listees to rush out and buy it as soon as time permits. If you have money, buy it. If you don't have money steal it. Hey, why not steal money and buy lots...in any case, go forth and purchase- just the thing for the young gent about town. Smashing. I too phoned the atrociously priced NME line for Urusei tickets, but have heard nothing- I fear I may have been unsuccessful or they have failed to grasp my accent whilst reciting my address, a common problem. 'Gutted', as they say... THOUGHT FOR THE DAY (one in a series of, erm, one probably): --as Madonna so delightfully informs us in her new single, 'Frozen'; "love is a bird" (specifically, a pigeon, ie. it shits on you from a great height then vanishes into the distance before you have the chance to do anything about it. Ha. Not that I'm BITTER or anything, oh no...) Yes, well, erm, anyhoo...must be off! Debbie xxx. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Mar 10 20:05:52 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:05:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Big Star Message-ID: <01bd4c5f$ed40e860$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Keith Watson Para: Mark Hester ; sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: martes 10 de marzo de 1998 18:29 Asunto: Sinister: Big Star >I don't think there's any great problems getting a hold of I am the Cosmos, >I'm not too sure, maybe Mr.Mitchell, Mr Hopkins and Ms.Kerr can perhaps >confirm a sighting of this when we were around the shops on Saturday... it >rings a bell for me anyway. You can definitely get it direct from Rykodisc ( or earhole or whatever it's called). It's even on mid price now, along with the other Big Star albums. The Chris Bell album is well worth owning for the sleevenotes alone. Undoubtedly the best sleevenotes I have ever had the pleasure of reading. Even people who don't like Chris Bell/Big Star are moved to tears. I know because I force it on people just to watch their reactions. Really, even if you don't want the record, I strongly recommend standing in a record shop and reading it. Unless it's one of those shops where they come and tell you off. It has also got at least two ten out of ten songs on it and at least one, possibly two, nine out of ten songs. Which is nice. If I had to be an album I wouldn't mind being that album. Tremendous Domingas ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Mar 10 20:13:00 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:13:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: another B&S/honeydream + boxing queen Message-ID: <01bd4c60$ec82ac00$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: ooon Para: B&S mailing list Fecha: martes 10 de marzo de 1998 19:37 Asunto: Sinister: another B&S/honeydream + boxing queen >a headline news over here recently was about a boy who loves >boxing and quite good at it. 17 knockouts out of 20 matches, >if i remember correctly. he happens to be gay. I saw this on the news in Spain recently. It was indeed very impressive, and I must admit that I thought about Stuart M's boxing antics, and there was even a brief discussion about it. In our house, not on the news. Anyway, it's very nice to hear from Ooon. I hope our other overseas listees take note and do the same. Come on, don't be shy! Pedro Molinero ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Mar 10 19:47:33 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:47:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: damn, damn , damn Message-ID: <01bd4c5d$5e32d0e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: poetryplace2 Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: martes 10 de marzo de 1998 15:24 Asunto: Sinister: damn, damn , damn >Glyn Maxwell is the laureate of Welwyn Garden City. He's published 3 >collections to extraordinary acclaim... people have called him the new >Auden, which is nice. To compound the Auden comparison he travelled to >Iceland with fellow-poet Simon Armitage a while ago, following in the >footsteps of Auden and MacNeice, and published a travelogue, "Moon Country", >which was rather good. I'm not what you would call "drunk" but I am trying to maintain a Sinister tradition by already having tucked into my second can of lager. Isn't it good? Down to business.... That's all very nice, Trousers, but did they share a room? >May he call for you in a lime-green van, > May his innermost thoughts be anyone's guest. >May his answer to 'Who's your favourite band?' > Be the only occasion he answers 'YES,' >But then may he add, 'When Wakeman was with 'em,' > And play you the evidence. May what he wears >Never again be in vogue. May his mother > Dote, devote, and move in downstairs. Trousers, is this some kind of sick joke? You made this up, didn't you? You're just trying to make me look daft, aren't you? My mother-in-law (who hasn't even got a downstairs) came to visit today. Here's an ink polaroid: This one's of me pretending to read the paper while my mother-in-law (name: Mercedes, I kid you not) talks bollocks. She doesn't take the hint and carries on talking and talking, despite the only other person in the room burying his head in the paper, reading the same sentence over and over again. My cover is finally blown when, in a rare moment of philosophical ponderence, she suggests that you can't sell thoughts. "What do scientists do?" I ask. "What do you think I do all day?" I enquire. "Oh yes, you're right" she conceeds. Victory!!! Bobby Chariot ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 17:48:24 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:48:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: peas Message-ID: ok you lot, just ignore what i said before about sending emails to : intense_intensity at yahoo.com 'cos the nice people at Demon fixed my internet and i am a happy bunny. anyway. WOW! some really cool B&S things have happened to me. 1. manchester on sat, i gota 3....6....9 seconds of light poster! YAY! its absloutely ace and me is a bit chuffed! 2. Today at college, i dropped in on chat.....and who was there..... CHRIS GEDDES!!!!! wow! my life is officially wierd. i'm glad cos it makes up for the SHIT day i had yesterday. my friedn left and i was still in a good mood, and then, er god knows what reason, i just crumpled and felt like hell for the rest of the night and couldn't sleep....annoying biscuits. but today, woke up, happy! even paid my mate a tenner i owed her (which is completely unfair as to the reasons behind it, need i only say i was fucked about?) and still smiled, went to meeja studies and STILL was happy?!??!? lunch, i met CHRIS GEDDES ON IRC!!! wooohooo! (and then my pooter crashed so sorry about that tim...) and then i did my spanish homework which was great, 'cos i invented that went to a disco in Spain and saw the pet shop boys and |TOM JONES! (by the way has anyone heard of la Buena Vida - this spanish band? as i fucking know them from somewhere and on NME chat a bit ago i was talking to someone else who knew of them, in fact said he WAS in the bad, but i dunno, and its buging me about them now....can't think how i know them but their name is written on my file of bands...will explain later.) ANYWAY! and fter that went to English, yay, good lesson, then had spanish, then typed up really fast email to a ceratin someone on this list :o) and then came home to find my HOME EMAIL is again working! ate toast and then typed this! and soon my dad will come home and i will cry. pooh. we are c;ashing even more at the moment (get a fucking job - piss off is my articlute response, real world? me arse...) anyway. live long and eat toast. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! my fave insult of the day has been..... "YOU....are the bag out of bagpuss!" ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From slc111 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 20:39:26 1998 From: slc111 at xxx.uk (Simon Collins) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:39:26 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Tue Mar 10 20:43:46 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 15:43:46 EST Subject: Sinister: peas Message-ID: In a message dated 98-03-10 15:29:27 EST, sarah at elsato97.demon.co.uk writes: << (by the way has anyone heard of la Buena Vida - this spanish band? as i fucking know them from somewhere and on NME chat a bit ago i was talking to someone else who knew of them, in fact said he WAS in the bad, but i dunno, and its buging me about them now....can't think how i know them but their name is written on my file of bands...will explain later.) >> la Buena Vida: nice band...smooth songs, like the Sundays, Autor de Lucie, the Innocence Mission, etc. Also on the Spanish pop tip, look for le Mans...darling acoustic pop songs that really get under your skin, even if you don't speak a lick of Spanish. nk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jim-bob at xxx.net Tue Mar 10 21:07:39 1998 From: jim-bob at xxx.net (jim-bob) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:07:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: TaTaForNow Message-ID: <199803102137.VAA29603@boober.lineone.net> Well, so long - I may just be the shortest-lived member you ever had. Sorry about that: I do still love B&S, but over 40 emails a day scares me. jim-bob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The breath of the morning I keep forgetting. The smell of the warm summer air. I live in a town where you can't smell a thing, You watch your feet for the cracks in the pavement. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tead at xxx.uk Mon Mar 9 18:11:12 1998 From: tead at xxx.uk (tEAD) Date: Mon, 09 Mar 1998 18:11:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: how about.... Message-ID: <350430BE.F2507C96@teadshouse.prestel.co.uk> hey ppl - first post an' all...... Well, my name's Matt and i think b&s are super dooper. The mailing list is great, and I was thinking about the problem of all this nonB&S mail cluttering the list and how people are not liking it and all, but the fact is that if you took away all the nonB&S stuff, there wouldn't be much left. Which makes me ask: Why is the list a mailing list and not a newsgroup ? And for the porn name: I named my first fluffy black rabbit after my grandma, Betty, and my mother's maiden name is the same as my grandma's second name, so my porn name is the same as my grandma's : Betty Baxter! luv Matt x x x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Mar 10 21:02:09 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 21:02:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Radcliffe sessions......(i know, i'm sorry but I'm desperate) Message-ID: Hi people. OK, this is a plea. I've just been taping some radio sessions for people, and got to the RADCLIFFE sessions. I'm sorry you lot who i promised to tape it for, but the tape is absolutely knackered and distorted. I have no idea what happened to it, but, yuk, i can't bear to listen to it. So, um, hiiii :o) Would any LOVELY LOVELY people care to do me a tape of the Radcliffe sessions..... please!!!!! i can't live without my Just a Modern Rock song! that was the 4th B&S song I ever heard.....oh the memories....yes that session was my first ever intro ever to Belle and Sebastian.....please help me out someone! I will repay in sweeties if so desired, but um, please don't as i' trying to save all me cash to go go and see new Order at the Phoenix. Wow! wouldn't that be so ace! and 75 quid also. SHIT! will it lash with my exams! oh arse. got me ticket to go and see SFA in may.....happy! B&S picninc in may too! Spanish GCSE in may! aaaaaaahhhhhhh! hacer muchas deberes y estudiar muchas y......i will still probably fail oh my lord..... what made me ever think i could do this, mi profesora said that puedo, pero NO PUEDO! any spaniards reading this, please don't laugh.... :o( I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! my fave insult of the day has been..... "YOU....are the bag out of bagpuss!" ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Tue Mar 10 22:48:42 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 17:48:42 EST Subject: Sinister: '80s Lyrics Quiz Answers Message-ID: <44bf1fdd.3505c34c@aol.com> Hey, anyone remember the that kerrrazy '80s lyric quiz I posted a week or so ago (and got a slap on the wrist about)? Well here are those answers in (almost) full. If anyone has any comments on this (of the "Huang Chung were great, weren't they?" variety), please do NOT, I repeat NOT post them to the list. Well, that's my disclaimer over anyway. Mum, your shredded wheat is showing! NB You may notice the occasional alphabetic tendencies of the artists, which leads me to believe a spot of reference-book scanning may have gone into the compilation of the quiz... 1) I need your love tonight, not just a hand to hold... Mai Tai - Body & Soul 2) I must have left my house at eight because I always do... Abba - The Day Before You Came (as covered by Blancmange) 3) Welcome to the great republic, guess I should show you round, where once I was a king but now I am a clown... ABC - King Without A Crown 4) Every night she walks right in my dreams since I met her from the start... Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson - The Girl Is Mine 5) She goes out every night 'til the morning is light, and she sleeps all day... Matt Bianco - Get Outta Your Lazy Bed 6) Look at my hopes look at my dreams and the currency we've spent.... Pet Shop Boys - Rent 7) All your dreams help you forget, you ain't never danced a step... Prefab Sprout - The King Of Rock & Roll 8) I can feel the earth begin to move, I hear my needle hit the groove Stone Roses - She Bangs The Drums 9) Why should it be, that my heart's under lock and I can't find the key... Style Council - Wanted 10) I cry in my sleep (cry boy, cry boy)... Thompson Twins - You Take Me Up 11) You don't have to say you love me, you don't have to say you care... Transvision Vamp - Baby, I Don't Care 12) Nobody knows me, but I'm always there... UB40 - One In Ten 13) Arms intwined, the chosen few, the newspaper says.... it's true.... we can break through.... U2 - New Year's day 14) Out of my head to say the things I said, I didn't mean a word... Luther Van Dross - Really Didn't Mean It 15) I said "a fine man", she said "So arrogant - I will decide where I go or I don't go"... Hue & Cry - Looking For Linda 16) The tears I cry aren't tears of pain, they're all to hide my hidden shame... Human League - Human 17) I was standing, you were there, two world collided... INXS - Never Tear Us Apart 18) Laughing like children, living like lovers, rolling like thunder, under the covers... Elton John - I Guess That's Why They Call It The Booze, Cocaine And Tubs Of Ice Cream 19) Subject me to the truth to the heartache and pain, until my mind is twisted... Johnny Hates Jaz - I Don't Wanna Be A Hero 20) By a tree near a river there's a hole in the ground.... Nik Kershaw - The Riddle 21) I say I think I ought to go, she answers yes, but I say no... The Art Company - Suzannah 22) Here it comes again, chugging like a train, round and round, the same old tune... Level 42 - Hot Water 23) I won't be here when you come home, I'm sorry if you don't understand forgive me if you can... Er..... no, still don't know this one. 24) You got style, that's what all the girls say... Madonna - Dress You Up 25) So now it's over, he's got a heart made out of stone... Mai Tai - History 26) Soldiers of fortune by some other name... Meatloaf - Rock & Roll Mercenaries 27) What's your definition of dirty baby, what do you consider pornography.. George Michael - I Want Your Sex 28) Woah, makes me want to dance, woah, it's a new romance... Best Years Of Our Lives - Modern Romance 29) We're going to find a way, find a way to get a way, this time... England World Cup Squad '82 - This Time (We'll Get It Right) 30) We're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I... Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up 31) P.E.R.S.P.E.C.T.I.V.E, is no mystery... Aztec Camera - How Men Are 32) A walk in the park can become a bad dream... Bananarama - Robert De Niro's Waiting 33) Just like that murder in '73, just like that robbery in '62... The Beautiful South - You Keep It All In 34) Nothing is certain in a changing world... Nick Berry - Every Loser Wins 35) It's all the same, only the names have changed... Nob Job Bovi - Wanted Dead Or Alive 36) Tonight I need your sweet caress, hold me in the darkness, Breathe - Hands To Heaven 37) Take a look at me, wired to a machine... Five Star - System Addict 38) When the chips are down, I'll be around, with my undying death defying love for you... Frankie Goes To Hollywood - The Power Of Love 39) Change your heart to a little white dove, more than a feeling... Huey Lewis and his News - The Power Of Love 40) If you said jump I'd say "how high", if you said run I'd run and fly... Debbie Gibson - We Could Be Together 41) This could be the last time, I think I said that last time... Depeche Mode - Leave In Silence 42) Now and then when I see her face it takes me away to that special place... Guns N'Roses - Sweet Child O' Mine 43) You're out of time, and I'm out of my head when your not around... Hall & Oates - Out Of Touch 44) Here comes the 21st century, it's going to be much better for a girl like me... Debbie Harry - I Want That Man 45) Boys, now the times are changing the going could get rough... Japan - Quiet Life 46) There's only two things that you can't hide from - you and the ground you're walking on... Jellybean - Sidewalk Talk 47) And the music don't feel how it felt when I felt it with you... Womack & Womack - Teardrops 48) I went though some nights concerned by the shadows, I was crippled emotionally George Michael & Aretha Franklin - I Knew You Were Waitin' 49) You're breathing in fumes I taste when we kiss... Depeche Mode - Stripped 50) Every time in rains, I have you here in my head... Kate Bush - Cloudbustin' RAH! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Tue Mar 10 23:36:03 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 18:36:03 EST Subject: Sinister: Cheekbones Message-ID: Dearest listees, On the eve of non-smoking day, let it be a warning to you all that I quit the evil tar/nicotine combo but 8 weeks ago, and on meeting one of my bestest friends today (in the not-too-good Damien Hurst hang-out Pharmacy, which wasn't any 'cop' since you asked. Just a little lifestyle tip there) she commented that my face had got "puffy" and my cheekbones (for which I had previously been famed throughout the far corners of my kitchen) had "disappeared". The cow. Anyways-oop, I'm writing to ask if anyone knows when the Coupland book Girlfriend In A Coma is released in the UK. With love, Stephen, who has been having scary dreams about interviewing various former Britpop bods of late. Eeek! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Wed Mar 11 00:45:49 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 19:45:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: why simon why Message-ID: <199803110045.TAA13558@Vector.inexpress.net> >Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1998 17:04:49 EST >From: Weiland643 >Subject: Re: Sinister: a low down dirty shame >AGG! LISA! sound a bit familiar?!?! record store boys!! ack bah shoot me in >the head > > >hello. >blink i like the poems. >hauntingly familiar. who is the agg and lisa? I am not understanding this? You know of the curse of the record store boys then..... OHmygoodness,you think you know somebody then it turn out they are having children with the ENEMY! That sweet little Simon Stafford (longpigs bassist) had a child with that evil woman and they named him flanergan! i am gonna have to live in a hut and become bitter now. ok,strategy strategy...i must get to the chat,but some B&S fans have school at the time....THERE is internet at school,and I can somehow get out of class using the stupidest excuse but how to get TO a computer? 1...I can say i am doing research...but they aren't that stupide...oh this terrible! I cannot bear the fact that while i am doing dilating triangles those lovely angels will be on the internet!Oh do tell them how much better they make the days,starting from the long long busride to making everything lovely.....plus they make me pass my class! We have do special describing event in french so i am doing the first time I bought my very first B&S from the loverly record boy...two lovely doublewhammy... but now i need oral presentation subject for englishhhhh...oh dear,need idea,please! okkkk....*sigh* kiss, Genevieve (i know odds are million to one cos you all live in exotic places..but any sinisters going to the congress centre on thursday night? i love you! come with stupid me and stupid friends we can drink champagne on the roof during the sunset before the concert..) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From LMJ216 at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 01:37:04 1998 From: LMJ216 at xxx.com (LMJ216) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 20:37:04 EST Subject: Sinister: have you and her been taking pictures of your obsessions? Message-ID: weiland643 at aol.com wrote... "AGG! LISA!! sound a bit familiar!?!? record store boys!!!" then someone asked who "AGG" and "LISA" were... Well, i am Lisa. you see, me and my friend Brian are a bit obbessed with a record store boy. We call him "NRM boy" for we have yet to figure out his name!!! He's beautiful!!! if only we could look past his beauty to look at his nametag, well, then, maybe we could call him his real name, rather than "nrm boy" We tried to take a picture of him once, but, sadly we failed. umm..so this has B&S content, i'll tellyou all that i got tigermilk today and i like it verymuch!! thanks Clem!! good day to you all!! ~Lisa ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From suzsch at xxx.net Thu Mar 12 02:06:20 1998 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:06:20 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #99 Message-ID: <199803110205.UAA21147@smtp1.mailsrvcs.net> > Hello, > My name is Shawn and I am a huge Morrissey from Vancouver, B.C., Canada Good. I'm sick of tiny Morrisseys running around causing problems in this place. > I looked briefly at the last digest on the Sinister site, and noticed > what seems to be a discussion about the lead guys sexuality based upon a > couple songs, my question is: Does the lyric "My brother confessed that > he was gay/ It took the heat off me for a while" imply that the speaker > is gay? What is he trying to avoid people finding out about him? (BTW > boys I'm single ;) ) Also, what's with the stuff about "...I was moved > to kick the crutches/ from my crippled friend"? An act of violence? Or > an act of charity considering that he next seems to suggest that he > somehow healed this friend? (OK I just confused myself) i hang out in Moz newsgroups, and if you even THINK about bringing the gay debate in here..... hell, no offense, but I guess even if i was in a newsgroup about toaster ovens, someone would ask if Amanas were gay. s.s. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From anonclothing at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 10:58:25 1998 From: anonclothing at xxx.com (Gareth Watkins) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 10:58:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Elliot Smith who he Message-ID: <05a5d1209110b38UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> dear world can anyone tell me anything about Elliot Smith as featured on the Good Will Hunting sound track i've never hear of him and neither has my local indie record shop. what has he done before? any albums recomended? all information greatly appreciated. Gareth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9503594b at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 12:22:16 1998 From: 9503594b at xxx.uk (Julia Mary Brown) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 12:22:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Alex Chilton/V-Twin Message-ID: <1D581622986@student.gla.ac.uk> Saw some awesome videos yesterday. First up was Cecil. Has anyone seen this? I don't remember a damn thing about the song, I was staring so hard at the gruesome nature of the events unfolding before my eyes. It's basically about this guy who goes around vomiting electronic goods like mobile phones, camcorders, gameboys, etc. The effects are pretty damn cool. The first video I've ever seen that made me shout and scream. Then tuned into Alternative Nation after Larry Sanders finished, and saw the Arab Strap video (nice try but not much cop), and the Beta Band video which is absolutely amazing. It's people in silly costumes going up a mountain having been filmed coming down it backwards in reverse. Complicated, I know. The effect is that you piss yourself laughing. Top marks. Bought the Hopkirk and Lee CD that was mentioned on the list about a week ago. Well, they're not the new B&S, but it's a beautiful record nevertheless. Hugely recommended. Who are they? Where do they come from? Does anyone know anything about Michael Head and/or The Strands? I don't want to rush out and buy it if it's some Blue Nile crap. Someone asked about the UK release of Girlfriend in a Coma by Coupland. As far as I know, it should be in the shops in two to three weeks. Priced attractively at £9.99. Is anyone going to see Guy Chadwick on Friday at the Garage? Let me know. How come She's Losing It seems to be the most popular B&S song? It's cute, sure, but it's not really what they do best, is it? Give me Judy or Fakers any day. That's enough now. Lots of love Camper Van Oaten (honest) Do I get points for that name? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plastik at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 12:38:02 1998 From: plastik at xxx.com (dina passman) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 07:38:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Elliot Smith who he References: <05a5d1209110b38UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Message-ID: <350685AA.354F@erols.com> gareth, elliott smith is an american indie man. i belive that he from somewhere on the west coast (choose 1 of the following : san francisco, portland, olympia, seattle). apparently he has a little bit of a drug problem. i saw him open for the softies at a small show held on the campus of georgetown university about 2 years ago. his songs contained versus about the green lady, the white lady, and the brown lady. these women are all his friends, i suppose. he played here in washington, dc recently, but i had my own ladies to deal with. happy hunting! > dina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mark at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 13:13:57 1998 From: mark at xxx.uk (Mark) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:13:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mudskipper Message-ID: Turns out that Mudskipper have a web site. It's at http://www.uce5.u-net.com/mudskipper.htm You can also get the CDs there for 50p cheaper than they're selling them to me!!!! And they've got cassettes which they didn't tell me about. Still, the music's so good I'll forgive them for any discrepancies! And there's still some CDs left if anyone wants one - either mail me or do it from their site. Mark ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 13:12:16 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:12:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: David & Katrina: Jools Holland Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F88E@RMF1> Have B&S ever appeared on Later with Jools Holland before. If not, why not and are they going to. Maybe you could find them a slot on the O Zone, I just love Jayne Middlemiss. seya, Huw -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 1872 bytes Desc: not available URL: From 9607260m at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 13:47:48 1998 From: 9607260m at xxx.uk (David S Mccarthy) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:47:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stuff and nonsense Message-ID: <1D6A6085C6E@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Claire Timmins wrote: If a picnic in Scotland is being organized then I will be there. If it is in the latter half of May only. Who's organizing it? Is anyone currently organising a Scottish picnic? If not who wants to? I'm willing to help out. Also, There has been talk recently, of older people beggining to take a shine to B&S and rececently when I last visited home my dad overheard b&s playing, liked it, and insisted I make a tape of the 3 eps and sinister for him to play in his car. The following week while listening to it he crashed his car, he was ok and it wasn't all a disaster infact something good came of it. My dad is a bit of a minger and never cleans his car, inside or out, much to the annoyance of my mother. But when the car came back from the garage it was all shiny and clean and smelled like new, and my mum was very, very happy, all thanks to belle and sebastian. the end. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 13:52:28 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:52:28 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Hopkirk and Lee In-Reply-To: <05a5d1209110b38UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Message-ID: hiya sinisterians and indiepopsters Can anyone feed with some info about this band call "Hopkirk and Lee". I heard they are comparable as "Belle and Sebastian". Write soon. Cheers D A N I E L O O "It takes Strength to be GENTLE and KIND" M O R R I S S E Y ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 14:04:21 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 09:04:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Coupland Price Alert Message-ID: <199803110908_MC2-364B-EE44@compuserve.com> Sorry to be a stickler 'n'all, but Girlfriend in a Coma will retail at 12.99. I got it wrong and the stupid machine jumbled it up anyway. Another fantastic video, by the way, is Hanson's Weird dir. Gus van Sant. It's almost as good as the song. Love DAVID ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 13:28:33 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:28:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Alex Chilton/V-Twin Message-ID: <01bd4cf1$96b70cd0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> And talking, well kind of, about B&S members extra-curricular acivity, Mick Cook played with The Karelia when I saw them play a couple of weeks ago. He played trumpet on one song, and guitar on the rest, but i got the idea he only played guitar so much because the singer couldn't- becuase he had cut his finger. Does anyone know anthing more about this?, that is Mick playing with The Karelia, not the singer's cut finger. And Keith, count me in for an Edinburgh picnic. I think many of my friends can be persuaded to attend. When I told them about the London picnic they said they wanted to go. Yet they wouldn't go to the Manchester gigs with me. I don't know. Mick's brother plays drums with the Karelia, so I guess it's just a part-time helping out thing. The location of the picnic is undecided as of yet, so if everyone who's interested wants to send me a mail with the subject of of either "GLASGOW" or "EDINBURGH" we'll do it by votes. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 14:43:43 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:43:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Life Cycle of an Email Discussion List (B&S Free) (fwd) Message-ID: Reminded me of this list, for some reason... (I think we're at 6b. Non?) Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I bribe Greek cod ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1998 23:05:48 -0500 From: Rahul Chandran Reply-To: monkeyjunkies at wired.com To: monkeyjunkies at wired.com Subject: [mj] FW: Life Cycle of an Email Discussion List (humor) THE NATURAL LIFE CYCLE OF MAILING LISTS Every list seems to go through the same cycle: 1. Initial enthusiasm (people introduce themselves, and gush alot about how wonderful it is to find kindred souls). 2. Evangelism (people moan about how few folks are posting to the list, and brainstorm recruitment strategies). 3. Growth (more and more people join, more and more lengthy threads develop, occasional off-topic threads pop up) 4. Community (lots of threads, some more relevant than others; lots of information and advice is exchanged; experts help other experts as well as less experienced colleagues; friendships develop; people tease each other; newcomers are welcomed with generosity and patience; everyone---newbie and expert alike--- feels comfortable asking questions, suggesting answers, and sharing opinions) 5. Discomfort with diversity (the number of messages increases dramatically; not every thread is fascinating to every reader; people start complaining about the signal-to-noise ratio; person 1 threatens to quit if *other* people don't limit discussion to person 1's pet topic; person 2 agrees with person 1; person 3 tells 1 & 2 to lighten up; more bandwidth is wasted complaining about off-topic threads than is used for the threads themselves; everyone gets annoyed) 6a. Smug complacency and stagnation (the purists flame everyone who asks an 'old' question or responds with humor to a serious post; newbies are rebuffed; traffic drops to a doze-producing level of a few minor issues; all interesting discussions happen by private email and are limited to a few participants; the purists spend lots of time self-righteously congratulating each other on keeping off-topic threads off the list) OR 6b. Maturity (a few people quit in a huff; the rest of the participants stay near stage 4, with stage 5 popping up briefly every few weeks; many people wear out their second or third 'delete' key, but the list lives contentedly ever after) ======================================================================= ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 14:16:15 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:16:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pay attention 007 - Scottish Picnics Message-ID: <01bd4cf8$40be0fc0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> OK. Scottish Picnics... again. --Anyone's welcome. --Venue undecided - Glasgow or Edinburgh, mail me and let me know what you think. --Anyone who wants to help can. --All we really need is a date - currently Claire can make it in the latter half of May and no-one else has made any suggestions, so that seems like a good bet so far. --Completely provisionally as a total guess I'll say Saturday 23rd of May in Glasgow, cause that seems to be the most popular at the moment. Now here's another suggestion. I think it'd probably be better if these picnics were not just a one-off picnic job in the park and then we all piss off home, but better off part of a grand plan for the weekend, we could all meet up on Friday night, go out to a club, dance our pants off, sleep and then have a picnic - then go out again on Saturday night and do it all again. For a kick off, it'd mean that come the time the picnic thing arrives - we'll all know each other anyway, which'd be cool. It's always a bit better when it's a whole weekend as it feels like more of an event. -- Any alternative suggestions are of course welcome. Thanks, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a.leonard at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 15:05:46 1998 From: a.leonard at xxx.uk (A Leonard) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 98 15:05:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stuart David in NME Message-ID: <18425.3063498903@x400.icl.co.uk> Need I say more? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 11 15:24:58 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:24:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: how about.... In-Reply-To: <350430BE.F2507C96@teadshouse.prestel.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, [tEAD] wrote: > ... and I was thinking about the problem of all this nonB&S mail > cluttering the list and how people are not liking it and all, but the > fact is that if you took away all the nonB&S stuff, there wouldn't be > much left. Which makes me ask: Why is the list a mailing list and not > a newsgroup ? When is a door not a door? No, I know what you mean - why isn't there a newsgroup and if there was would everyone use it instead of this list? Well the easy answer is.. um the mailing list is because it is. I mean because people seem to keep coming. The real answer I would only guess at is because mailing lists sometimes encourage a sense of community that newsgroups don't, newsgroups get spammed and lists generally don't, and newsgroups seem to attract people who want to tell you they hate your band or otherwise annoy. Plus lists are more accessible to many. I hope indeed we are at 6b and not 6a - I think we are, generally. Besides all that, it's because you are all angels and have kept this thing going. I didn't say I want to have all your babies, but I'm thinking it. Yeah - last reminder - band chat at 2pm GMT tomorrow. Please come armed with questions and don't go all coy and blushy. As to Thai nudey actresses, I know now where my future lies. Thanks to Oon, I will sOon pack up my bags and sail east, a bright new future in showbiz awaiting, armed only with my copy of Tigermilk in my handbag and fiddling with the clasps on my catsuit. Who'll buy my video? Honey xxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From adamrobinson at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 16:25:01 1998 From: adamrobinson at xxx.uk (Adam Robinson) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:25:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: michael head Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 16:57:44 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 16:57:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S go political In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I know we're meant to keep political discussions off the list, but I think an exception can be made for this one (as long as we don't spend the next month debating it!). Today's NME contains a long article about how Tony Blair's Labour government has betrayed and cheated young people (and music fans in particular). As part of this, there are a series of mini-interviews with musicians, and one of them is with our very own Stuart David... Q Were you ever on the dole? If so, for how long? "I was on the dole for seven years, from when I was 16 until I was 24 - with one year off in the middle somewhere to do a music course at college. I started signing on while I was still at school. Our teacher in Modern Studies got this older kid in the class to stand up and give a talk one day, explaining to the rest of us how to do it - and I thought, 'That'll do for me'." Q Would you have survived without it? "I imagine I would have _survived_ without it, yes. But I probably wouldn't have had the time to learn how to write and how to play." Q What would you be doing now, if you'd been forced to get a job when you left school? (As Labour are currently planning) "If I'd been forced to get a job when I left school I'd probably still be doing it now." Q Do you see any difference between the current Labour government and the previous Tory one? "I always wanted there to be a Labour government, and I thought in most ways that it would be better for the country in general. But I also knew that it would mean the end of the dole culture as we've known it. Labour have always been about getting people working - and they've always been a worker's party, that's where the name came from." Q What should Labour be doing to help young people? "It was an accident that a minority of the people signing on during the years of the Conservative government managed to use it in their own favour - as a sort of unofficial artist's grant. But I think Labour could learn from that, and perhaps introduce an official grant for developing artists and musicians. "Beyond the arts, they should definitely reintroduce full student grants and housing benefit for students, and just generally make it easier for kids to survive financially while they're working out what it is they want to do." Q Are you surprised they have no new policies/ideas about drugs? "No." Q Should pop stars be going to Number 10? (As Noel Gallagher did) "Of course pop stars shouldn't be gong to Nunmber 10. But most people are shameless about selling records." Q Can music change anything? "Of course music can change certain things. It changes how kids perceive the world when it first affects them. And when they become the generation in power a little bit of that should still be with them." He's actually a hell of a lot kinder to Labour than some of the interviewees; buy the NME if you want more (it's well worth a read, it's the most sense I've read in the NME for ages). Keith Woodfield / Hoppy Miles (I think I prefer the second one...) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sha0801l at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 17:19:52 1998 From: sha0801l at xxx.uk (McDougal) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 17:19:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: JOY...+B&S Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980311171952.006a7a14@194.238.147.3> Hello fellow mailers, Today was a bad day. Until now. I thought that B&S chatting at 2 today, and so was sitting in my history, spanish and english lessons sulking. When school ended I went to bluesoda, only to find that it's actually happening tomorrow. S A V E D !!!! My chosen song of the day is "Belle and Sebastian", from the Dog on weels ep........I left my school, I left my job, you saw me looking like a slob...... BBBB EEEE L L EEEE AAAA N N DDD SSSS EEEE BBB AAAA SSSS TTTT I AAAA N N B B E L L E A A NN N D D S E B B A A S TT I A A NN N BBBB EEEE L L EEEE AAAA N NN D D SSSS EEEE BBB AAAA SSSS TT I AAAA N NN B B E L L E A A N N D D S E B B A A S TT I A A N N BBBB EEEE LLLL LLLL EEEE A A N N DDD SSSS EEEE BBB A A SSSS TT I A A N N To view the above sit 1 metre away from the monitor, shut one eye put hands together, blocking out the rest of the message. This should make it clearer. I'm so proud of myself......actually you should feel sorry for me. This shows how bored/dedicated to B&S I actually am. I can't decide which. Hopefully ( I think so) the latter. It's not the most beautiful writing of the name i've ever seen, but it's the best I could in the e-mail type thing........... ............Write me back for a chat, a compliment, or whatever............. < D O U G > PIGS TEND TO WIGGLE WHEN THEY WALK THE INFRASTRUCTURE ROTS, AND THE OWNERS HATE THE JOCKS WITH THEIR AGENTS AND THEIR DATES, IF THE SIGNATURES ARE CHECKED, YOU'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT, AND WE'RE COUNTING UP THE INSTANTS THAT WE SAVED, INTIRE NATIONS SO DEPRAVED FROM THE CHEAP SEATS, SEE US WAVE TO THE CAMERA, IT TOOK A GIANT RAM ROD TO RAISE THE DEMON SETTLEMENT, BUT HI HO SILVER RIDE........................... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Jeni421 at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 18:03:27 1998 From: Jeni421 at xxx.com (Jeni421) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 13:03:27 EST Subject: Sinister: Pay attention 007 - Scottish Picnics Message-ID: <89b81704.3506d1f2@aol.com> I'll be in Paisley about May 20th and I want to go:) to the Glasgow thingy You said: >I think it'd probably be better if these >picnics were not just a one-off picnic job in the park and then we all piss >off home, but better off part of a grand plan for the weekend, we could all >meet up on Friday night, go out to a club, dance our pants off, sleep and >then have a picnic - then go out again on Saturday night and do it all >again. For a kick off, it'd mean that come the time the picnic thing >arrives - we'll all know each other anyway, which'd be cool. It's always a >bit better when it's a whole weekend as it feels like more of an event. I think your idea sounds great! I'll be over there on my first trip to Scotland from US and I think that would be soo much fun to meet list people and go out. I'll be staying w/ a friend whilst in Paisley and am more than willing to go to Glasgow preferably or Edinburgh, either one. Jeni (aka. Lee Canterbury) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Robert_Hardy at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 19:03:41 1998 From: Robert_Hardy at xxx.uk (Robert Hardy TM) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:03:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Country Music Fun Message-ID: <199803111901.TAA11541@sand.global.net.uk> Country Western Song Titles: The Best of the Worst Country-Western Song Titles (Yes, kids, these are REAL.) 1.Drop Kick Me, Jesus, Through The Goalposts Of Life 2.Get Your Biscuits In The Oven And Your Buns In The Bed 3.Get Your Tongue Outta My Mouth 'Cause I'm Kissing You Goodbye 4.Her Teeth Were Stained, But Her Heart Was Pure 5.How Can I Miss You If You Won't Go Away? 6.How Can You Believe Me When I Say I Love You When You Know I've Been A Liar All My Life? 7.I Been Roped And Thrown By Jesus In The Holy Ghost Corral 8.I Changed Her Oil, She Changed My Life 9.I Don't Know Whether To Kill Myself Or Go Bowling 10.I Fell In A Pile Of You And Got Love All Over Me 11.I Flushed You From The Toilets Of My Heart. 12.I Keep Forgettin' I Forgot About You 13.I Wanna Whip Your Cow 14.I Would Have Wrote You A Letter, But I Couldn't Spell Yuck! 15.I Wouldn't Take Her To A Dawg Fight, Cause I'm Afraid She'd Win 16.I'd Rather Have A Bottle In Front Of Me Than A Frontal Lobotomy 17.I'm Just A Bug On The Windshield Of Life 18.I'm The Only Hell Mama Ever Raised 19.I've Been Flushed From The Bathroom Of Your Heart 20.I've Got The Hungries For Your Love And I'm Waiting In Your Welfare Line 21.If I Can't Be Number One In Your Life, Then Number Two On You 22.If Love Were Oil, I'd Be A Quart Low 23.If My Nose Were Full of Nickels, I'd Blow It All On You 24.If You Don't Leave Me Alone, I'll Go And Find Someone Else Who Will 25.If You Leave Me, Can I Come Too? 26.Mama Get The Hammer (There's A Fly On Papa's Head) 27.My Every Day Silver Is Plastic 28.My Head Hurts, My Feet Stink, And I Don't Love Jesus 29.My John Deere Was Breaking Your Field, While Your Dear John Was Breaking My Heart 30.My Wife Ran Off With My Best Friend, And I Sure Do Miss Him 31.Oh, I've Got Hair Oil On My Ears And My Glasses Are Slipping Down, But Baby I Can See Through You 32.Pardon Me, I've Got Someone To Kill 33.She Got The Gold Mine And I Got The Shaft 34.She Got The Ring And I Got The Finger 35.She Made Toothpicks Out Of The Timber Of My Heart 36.She's Got Freckles On Her, But She's Pretty 37.Thank God And Greyhound She's Gone 38.They May Put Me In Prison, But They Can't Stop My Face From Breakin' Out 39.Velcro Arms, Teflon Heart 40.When You Leave Walk Out Backwards, So I'll Think You're Walking In 41.You Can't Have Your Kate And Edith Too 42.You Can't Roller Skate In A Buffalo Herd 43.You Done Tore Out My Heart And Stomped That Sucker Flat 44.You Were Only A Splinter As I Slid Down The Bannister Of Life 45.You're The Reason Our Kids Are So Ugly F'eh, made me laugh. Ian Balham. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Mar 11 18:57:09 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 19:57:09 +0100 Subject: Sinister: how about.... Message-ID: <01bd4d1f$7e1d0d40$LocalHost@itjfvkli> >Yeah - last reminder - band chat at 2pm GMT tomorrow. Please come >armed with questions and don't go all coy and blushy. I've only thought of one question, and it's not very interesting either. Perhaps this is because I've spent the whole of the last month trying to decide who to be. I've narrowed the field down to two candidates, Horst Hrubesch and Hans Krankl. I would like to be a Thompson Twins-like duo, but there's not space for two such long names. >As to Thai nudey actresses, I know now where my future lies. Thanks >to Oon, I will sOon pack up my bags and sail east, a bright new >future in showbiz awaiting, armed only with my copy of Tigermilk in >my handbag and fiddling with the clasps on my catsuit. Who'll buy my >video? I really don't know what to say to this, Paul. Bobby Chariot ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 19:46:39 1998 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 11:46:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Sinister Dreams Message-ID: OK, I've got more proof that this list is infiltrating my dreams. I didn't have another B&S dream, but did have one about stripping which must have been inspired by all the porn star posts. I'm a bit worried that soon my dreams will contain instructions like: "It is time to meet the other Sinisterians at the spaceship and return to our home planet. Please do not attempt to exit the spaceship while it is in motion or you will rock the ship and make everyone ill. Instead, contact Captain Honey privately for details on how to parachute back to Earth." So I was a stripper in the dream, except I wasn't _really_ a stripper, I was only doing it for a few hours so I could do some kind of investigation at the club. I remember that my intentions were good, but I don't remember what exactly they were. The music wasn't great, but I remember thinking I was pulling it off quite well (ha, no pun intended) and no one was suspecting a thing. But then I looked at some of the faces and started thinking, "Oh God, what if I see someone from work!?" Suddenly I was out of the strip club and playing in a band with my best friend from high school and a bunch of other people. Her cute younger brother was the singer and I had some ridiculous role like cymbal or tambourine player. (No offense to anyone dedicated to those instruments!) We played one song and were astonishingly good. Right then, when we were on the verge of stardom and having a mailing list dedicted to us ... my 15-pound cat jumped on my stomach, like he always does when things are getting good in my dreams. Grrrr. So, lots of May Orgy planning going on, oh sorry, I meant May Picnic planning. Keith wanted it to be more of an Event, so why not get Genevieve over so she and Tag can tie the knot publicly? Afterwards you can all get drunk and eat too much of every different kind of cake. ;-) As for the list life cycle stuff, the next step should be rebirth. HoneyPaul must nearly be ready to pop those enlightened list babies by now. - Scuffy Lee Smith, stripper/porn name PS. Whoever wanted info on the great singer-songwriter Elliott Smith: http://www.cs.trinity.edu/~nfrankli/es/ http://www.teleport.com/~voice/main.html . . . . . nicolina at drizzle.com . . . . . And once Frederick seemed half asleep. "Are you dreaming, Frederick?" they asked reproachfully. But Frederick said, "Oh no, I am gathering words. For the winter days are long and many, and we'll run out of things to say." -- Leo Lionni, _Frederick_ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 19:48:34 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 14:48:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Pay attention 007 - Scottish Picnics Message-ID: <199803111448_MC2-3662-3CB1@compuserve.com> About that 'picnic' thing... Thought 1) We could always have one in each city, seen as they're having 2 in London (Boo!) 2) end of May's cool (going on week-long piss-up in England on 30th, yippeee!) 3) this going out/staying overnight thing...where're we all gonna stay? I don't particularly fancy kipping on a park bench/in a phonebox or anything. Otherwise it sounds like a classy idea (as long as I can bring a non-list mate along, it'd be way too scary by myself, I think) 4) even if we did it in Embra I still wouldn't be able to get home a night (last bus home at 10pm? Hmmmm)- anyone fancy letting me kip on their couch/floor/doorstep? Just a thought. Anyhoo (as the lovely Lauren Laverne would say), must be off- cat's trying to bite my knees. love and alcoholidays, Debbie xxx. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 20:00:30 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:00:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: David & Katrina: Jools Holland References: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F88E@RMF1> Message-ID: <3506ED5E.EEADCCC8@totalweb.co.uk> Huw Jenkins wrote: > > Have B&S ever appeared on Later with Jools Holland before. If not, why > not and are they going to. they nearly did, but didn't. trawl through the archives to find out why. > Maybe you could find them a slot on the O Zone, I just love Jayne > Middlemiss. then again, maybe they wouldn't want to do the o-zone. although we might be able to 'find' slots, it really is up to b&s whether they do something or not, the label and fanclub, or anyone for that matter, has no power or influence in getting them to do things they don't want to do. david -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From itstrue at xxx.net Wed Mar 11 19:52:07 1998 From: itstrue at xxx.net (Reid Dossinger) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:52:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: One chat no-show, right here Message-ID: <3506EB67.7D95@earthlink.net> An ignorant question if you don't mind... I don't really have much patience for on-line chats...is there a chance of someone writing up a "re-print" of the chat for those of us who don't feel like (or can't) be involved in the chat, but still want to get the full story? And if your answer is something along the lines of, "If you can't be bothered to come to the chat, then you don't get the goods!"...well, just keep it to yourself. And while I'm at it...Does anyone know what the title and running order of the US compilation of the EP's will be? Are they just going to throw on the songs in order of release, or are they going to mix it up and give it a creative title, Louder Than Bombs-style? I vote for the latter. And are there any other US Sinisterines agonizing over whether or not they will buy the compilation even though they shelled out 30 bucks for all three EP's? And am I the only one who thinks that "Sleep the Clock Around" sounds VERY much like a Stereolab song? ~Chelsea Reid (pornstar name, although it doesn't sound very sexy. Moviestar name, maybe?) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Mar 11 21:26:24 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 21:26:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: memory cannot choose where it wants to be Message-ID: Help! My English teacher asked me what record he should buy. I of course told him to buy IF YOU'RE FEELING SINISTER, it in fact is still written on the blackboard (if you're feeling sinister, belle and sebastian, jeepster records) and has inspired heated debates amongst other classes! His AS group said that he shouldn't buy that, that he should buy Urban Hymns. There will be a nice message on the board tomorrow telling a ceratin AS group how EVIL they are....... Anyway, aaw, this was so cute, he said 'Could I get it from Asda? As thats where I do most my shopping...'....I said perhaps not, buy definelty from HMV.... :o) He asked me to say who they sounded like.......and for the life of me I couldn't say. Name a POPULAR refernce point, that a Robbie Williams liking English teacher could recognise. anyway. on a boring note, i got this idea for my website, like a story, where everyone who visits it could add a line....unfortunatly, i have absolutely noo idea how in the world i would tell my pooter to do this. if any clever pooter people could give me a brief hint.....please!!! :o) HA HAH HA! someone else mentioned politics apart from me! yhahahahahhahahahahahahah ahahaahahahahahahhhahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahahahahhaah hahahahaha!!!! that was a bugger on me fingers. damn, mst buy the NME! i bought the Maker....I persume evryoneknows about the stcikers.... or am I just immature enough to *HAVE* to have to have a "Belle and Sebastian ROCK MY WORLD" sticker??!?!?!?! who's arsed? HEY guess what! me and a certain american person fro this list talked by phone just a bit ago, which was lovely, and i sound like a tv programme. :) yay! my future in media awaits! yippeeee! i'll go soon, but McCarthy. I know some of you know about them. I would like to know too. As I have Sleeping Red Beauty (me hopes htats theright title, my memory is fuzzy) in my head and have just listened to the MSP cover of Charlie Windsor and would like to know this band....are they on this "world wide web" thingy anywhere? (go to www.elsato97.demon.co.uk and sign my guestbook!) i saw a tv programme t'other day on subliminal messages did i mention? I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! my fave insult of the day has been..... "YOU....are the secret member of Ocean Duller Scene, and your job is to provide sexual favours for the band, which YOU ENJOY, oh YUK!" ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From college at xxx.com Wed Mar 11 23:59:20 1998 From: college at xxx.com (TonyK) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 15:59:20 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Elliot Smith who he References: <05a5d1209110b38UPIMSSMTPUSR02@email.msn.com> Message-ID: <35072558.5D167E45@aliasrecords.com> Pretty much everything Elliot Smith has put out is worth picking up. He has releases on Kill Rock Stars and Cavity Search that are mesmerizingly beautiful. There's a pretty good fanpage if you want to learn more about him at http://members.tripod.com/~skylash/. He also used to be in a band called Heatmiser that was much more rock than his solo stuff. But to make a long story short, you can't go wrong picking up his new album Either/Or. -TonyK Gareth Watkins wrote: > dear world > > can anyone tell me anything about Elliot Smith as featured on the Good Will > Hunting sound track i've never hear of him and neither has my local indie > record shop. what has he done before? any albums recomended? all information > greatly appreciated. > > Gareth > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From lrsim2 at xxx.au Thu Mar 12 11:00:02 1998 From: lrsim2 at xxx.au (Musicman) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:00:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: linguistic trainspotting Message-ID: <1451CCB5549@mfs06.cc.monash.edu.au> hmmmm, slacks..... > Say, since this list has already tackled spawny gits & the bar vs. > biscuit conundrum, I was hoping someone could take a crack at the > significance of 'pants.' Clearly, it is undesirable to be deemed pants, > but why? To Americans pants are just, I guess you'd say, 'trousers.' > Surely there are more disagreeable items of apparel to be compared to: > jock strap, thong, adult diaper... Please explain. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Parcae at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 01:36:01 1998 From: Parcae at xxx.com (Parcae) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 20:36:01 EST Subject: Sinister: no b&s...need help Message-ID: <2f899f40.35073c04@aol.com> hi...i'm trying to write an essay to win scholarship. it's on the importance of studying humanities to modern life. i have quite a bit written but have hit a mental draw....can any one help me?! the main idea that i've covered is concerned with the move away from the apathy that technology has created....or something like that. Please help!!!!! email me privately if you care to help. thanks. ciao*uyen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Thu Mar 12 02:21:56 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 02:21:56 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: One chat no-show, right here In-Reply-To: <3506EB67.7D95@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 11 Mar 1998, Reid Dossinger wrote: > I don't really have much patience for on-line chats...is there a chance of someone > writing up a "re-print" of the chat for those of us who don't feel like (or can't) be involved > in the chat, but still want to get the full story? And if your answer is something along the > lines of, "If you can't be bothered to come to the chat, then you don't get the > goods!"...well, just keep it to yourself. Ooooo, narky! Yes I keep meaning to say but forget, I will record it all so you can play it back at your hearts' content. I'll post it to the list or more likely put it on the WWW or something. That's if they turn up. Nicole - Sinister babies due on 27th May by my calculations - has it really only been 7 months since all this craziness began? My tummy's aching... Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bgainey at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 02:29:44 1998 From: bgainey at xxx.com (Brian Gainey) Date: Wed, 11 Mar 1998 18:29:44 -0800 Subject: Sinister: rise and shine, it's almost chat time! Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980311182944.006d97e0@pophost.wired.com> hey, i'm really excited and all to see what is said by those we adore so, but next time don't you think it would be _really_ great to do it a little later in the afternoon so us kids in san francisco and other far off places don't have to roll straight out of bed and onto our terminals. don't get me wrong, i'm still five times as excited about it actually happening than i am grumpy about getting up at a wrong hour. hold on kids! here we go..... see y'all in the morning. brian ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rclander at xxx.net Thu Mar 12 03:15:31 1998 From: rclander at xxx.net (Richard Lander) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:15:31 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Totally B&S Related Message-ID: <01bd4d65$1d7feac0$06fd51ca@rclander.netfront.net> So maybe no new records until July and only the picnic to look forward to in the near future. Need something to talk about the band rather than rehashing the Tigermilk reissue and what 'La Pastie...' means debates. So how about this. 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To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 08:58:21 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 08:58:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: One chat no-show, right here References: <3506EB67.7D95@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3507A3AD.88A7460B@totalweb.co.uk> Reid Dossinger wrote: > > An ignorant question if you don't mind... > > I don't really have much patience for on-line chats...is there a chance of someone > writing up a "re-print" of the chat for those of us who don't feel like (or can't) be involved > in the chat, but still want to get the full story? And if your answer is something along the > lines of, "If you can't be bothered to come to the chat, then you don't get the > goods!"...well, just keep it to yourself. this mail has so much cynicism that i swear you must find it hard to live, but worry not, we strive to offer a service, us, the few that stitch together the sites and the chat and stuff, and the full log of the chat will be available in two places for you to peruse at your discretion. the first place will be the sinister list site as paul has done a lot of work for this, the second is the fanclub site as so have i. > And while I'm at it...Does anyone know what the title and running order of the US > compilation of the EP's will be? Are they just going to throw on the songs in order of > release, or are they going to mix it up and give it a creative title, Louder Than > Bombs-style? I vote for the latter. And are there any other US Sinisterines agonizing over > whether or not they will buy the compilation even though they shelled out 30 bucks for > all three EP's? this hasn't been confirmed yet, but expect most of the ep's and maybe a song or two extra. > And am I the only one who thinks that "Sleep the Clock Around" sounds VERY much like a > Stereolab song? probably, i've started to think the highly controversial recently by thinking that belle and sebastian sound like belle and sebastian. obviously this is dangerous as a nick drake fan is bound to have the wind put up his/her shirt because of it and may turn violent in a safe way. Blue Tatt (yeah, an incredibly dull porn name! and yes, my mothers maiden name is TATT!) a.k.a. david kitchen -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 09:53:11 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:53:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: chat countdown Message-ID: <3507B087.D7E8B5B1@totalweb.co.uk> as a few people were confused as to when the chat starts this afternoon, i''ve set up a countdown to see us through the last few hours and clear up the EST, GMT, BST, US time problem to view the countdown either go directly to: http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/cgi-bin/countdown.pl or follow the link from the fan club site. david PS: i havn't been able to check this, so if it returns your time instead of mine please let me know, as this means it's reading the wrong clock and may be showing an incorrect countdown. if it's showing a time different to yours (providing you outside the UK time-zone) then it's working fine! -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Thu Mar 12 10:22:14 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:22:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sound-alikes Message-ID: Re the comments about the likelihood of being the only person to think "Sleep the Clock Around" sounds like a Stereolab song and david's response about B&S sound like B&S. It is somewhat strange to take exception to people commenting on one band sounding like another because it is a pretty harmless and occasionally even helpful activity. We all pick up little bits of the tunes we love in unexpected places. I was quite surprised to see Stereolab mentioned as being one of the groups influenced by Suicide in the Guardian, for example. 'if You're Feeling Sinister' the song, not the whole album, sounds like Love Is In the Air at least the bass does. Now I happen to think IYFS is far and away the better song, in fact LIINA is tosh, but I can still hear the similarity. Mark. (he of the quite sensibly boring sig file! Look....) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Thu Mar 12 10:22:05 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:22:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sound-alikes Message-ID: Re the comments about the likelihood of being the only person to think "Sleep the Clock Around" sounds like a Stereolab song and david's response about B&S sound like B&S. It is somewhat strange to take exception to people commenting on one band sounding like another because it is a pretty harmless and occasionally even helpful activity. We all pick up little bits of the tunes we love in unexpected places. I was quite surprised to see Stereolab mentioned as being one of the groups influenced by Suicide in the Guardian, for example. 'if You're Feeling Sinister' the song, not the whole album, sounds like Love Is In the Air at least the bass does. Now I happen to think IYFS is far and away the better song, in fact LIINA is tosh, but I can still hear the similarity. Mark. (he of the quite sensibly boring sig file! Look....) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Thu Mar 12 10:29:06 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:29:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stereolab Message-ID: ..but the song does have a Stereolab-ish title! I thinnk that anyone who could come up with the idea of an international colouring contest has to be acknowledged as a genius. It is so weird. I tend to go through stages of playing an album over and over then doing the same to the next rather than listening to a hotch potch. After many listens to IYFS I then moved on to Stereolab's Mars Audiac Quintet and now it is Big Star (as you may have guessed from previous messages!) M. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gleng at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 10:54:28 1998 From: gleng at xxx.com (gordon glen) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:54:28 +0800 Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <3507BEE3.51CD7D42@hkstar.com> Big star are, or rather were, great. I saw them play at Reading a few years back. Alex has had an influence on many bands including TFC, The Cramps and Uncle Tupelo to name but three. There is a recording of "I am the Cosmus" on their Live at Missouri University 4/25/93" album. Gordon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 09:37:35 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 09:37:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Cynicism Message-ID: <01bd4d9a$7d60f350$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >this mail has so much cynicism that i swear you must find it hard to >live, but worry not, we strive to offer a service, us, the few that >stitch together the sites and the chat and stuff, and the full log of >the chat will be available in two places for you to peruse at your >discretion. >the first place will be the sinister list site as paul has done a lot of >work for this, the second is the fanclub site as so have i. How's this for a bit of cynicism, the girl next to me at work has just pointed out that (she comes from the USA) - whilst talking about that most British of things, the weather, she says that in New York the weather actually tries to kill you cause it's so extreme, and she figures that in Britain, the effect is far more subtle than that, in that the weather here just tries to make you kill yourself. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickdastoor at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 11:16:52 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 03:16:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: David & Katrina: Jools Holland Message-ID: <19980312111652.3089.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> David claimed: > then again, maybe they wouldn't want to do the o-zone. although we > might be able to 'find' slots, it really is up to b&s whether they do > something or not, the label and fanclub, or anyone for that matter, has > no power or influence in getting them to do things they don't want to > do. What about their mothers? I bet if Mrs Murdoch said "Go on the O-Zone right this minute or they'll be no tea for you", the boy Staurt would jump to it pretty sharpish. Or if susannah dangled those pictures in front of the hopelessly weak-willed Stuart D., I'm sure he could even be dragged into an appearance on (tries to think of something really rubbish) the new Channel Five chart show. Nick (who plucked up courage to install an IRC program on his work PC and to hell with the consequences, but couldn't get it to work - have fun everyone. Don't suck up to the band.) _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 11:33:25 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 06:33:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sleep the Clock Message-ID: <199803120636_MC2-3679-B31B@compuserve.com> I don't think Sleep the Clock Around sounds like Stereolab at all. The climactic bit at the end is reminiscent of mid-late period James (Ring the Bells, etc), and the vocal tune is a speeded up version of New Order's classic 1963. It was January, 1963... Sing it at twice the speed, and there you have it. Does anyone have the 7 inch single by Even As We Speak where they do their version of Bizarre Love Triangle? It works at both 33rpm and 45rpm. Squarepusher thinks he's so clever, but he isn't really! Looking forward to reading about the chat. Can't make it: too much work, yawn, etc. I asked a guy in Ladbrokes if they were taking bets on Modern Rock Song being Number One, and I got a weird look in return. Oh well. Lots of love DAVID ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 10:46:54 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:46:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sound-alikes Message-ID: <01bd4da4$2c38d7e0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Re the comments about the likelihood of being the only person to think >"Sleep the Clock Around" sounds like a Stereolab song and david's >response about B&S sound like B&S. It is somewhat strange to take >exception to people commenting on one band sounding like another >because it is a pretty harmless and occasionally even helpful activity. We >all pick up little bits of the tunes we love in unexpected places. I was >quite surprised to see Stereolab mentioned as being one of the groups >influenced by Suicide in the Guardian, for example. 'if You're Feeling >Sinister' the song, not the whole album, sounds like Love Is In the Air at >least the bass does. Now I happen to think IYFS is far and away the >better song, in fact LIINA is tosh, but I can still hear the similarity. Indeed occassionally little things jump out at you and you think it sounds like something else, often other people can't see it mind you. Sleep the Clock Around I don't think sounds much like Stereolab, it's too good for a start, but I can see where the guy is coming from, the repetitive bit. On the other hand I don't find it difficult to see the Suicide influence on Stereolab, that and Kraftwerk and several other German bands - having said that i haven't bought a Stereolab record since 1993, and I hardly listened to it then either. Some B+S songs I think do sound a bit like others but often it surprises me the number of them that just don't. Personally I find the Nick Drake comparison pretty shallow and simply based on their voices being vaguely similar, same goes for Love, not really like Love at all, except Dog on Wheels. Mayfly I think sounds like "Pleasant Valley Sunday", but I'll bet no-one else thinks that. Yours is no disgrace, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 11:52:24 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:52:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Cynicism References: <01bd4d9a$7d60f350$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <3507CC78.D2C38B5E@totalweb.co.uk> Keith Watson wrote: > > >this mail has so much cynicism that i swear you must find it hard to > >live, but worry not, we strive to offer a service, us, the few that > >stitch together the sites and the chat and stuff, and the full log of > >the chat will be available in two places for you to peruse at your > >discretion. > >the first place will be the sinister list site as paul has done a lot of > >work for this, the second is the fanclub site as so have i. > > How's this for a bit of cynicism, the girl next to me at work has just > pointed out that (she comes from the USA) - whilst talking about that most > British of things, the weather, she says that in New York the weather > actually tries to kill you cause it's so extreme, and she figures that in > Britain, the effect is far more subtle than that, in that the weather here > just tries to make you kill yourself. > > Cheers, > Keith. i think she's got a point, i hear that in New York the wind hits the sky-scrapers, and through lack of anywhere better to go, hurtles earthward. the result is storm force winds when trying to enter buidlings. and if this is coupled with heavy rain, it's supposed to be comprable to being drenched whilst attacked with a sand blasting type machine. so why they carry on building these buildings is incredible. which also brings up an old question, why are buildings called buildings once they've been built? it's pretty obvious that there is no more 'building' going on up there. shouldn't we be proudly calling them 'built'? but i like rain, and wind, and sometimes i can even convince myself that i like the sun. but mostly i just like listening to great records while it rains, especially if i've nowhere to go and nothing to do. david i hear the countdown thing works and has helped already, i'm glad most of you like it, it's a cheap trick, but it helps at times like this. -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Thu Mar 12 12:48:39 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 12 Mar 98 12:48:39 Subject: Sinister: Living the songs project: Crashing cars Message-ID: <9803121747.AA4652@mail.irlgov.ie> David S Mccarthy wrote >Also, there has been talk recently, of older people beggining to take a shine to >B&S.....my dad overheard b&s playing, liked it, and insisted I make a tape... Welcome to the Sinister Seniors, Mr McCarthy but your Living the Songs stunt outdoes the rest of us, as in >The following week while listening to it he crashed his car, Obviously he was listening to "...................... Sebastian went too far again crashed his car in the rain" at the time. So, at least 80 out of 100, and full marks if it was raining when he crashed. Glad to hear the car got cleaned as an after-effect , but it's going to be an expensive habit - sounded like that method of roasting pork by burning down the house (with a pig in it). Martin C. Because I could not stop for death He kindly stopped for me The carriage held but just ourselves And immortality. Emily Dickinson ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ... This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. ... To send ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 13:49:39 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Rob B) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:49:39 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Sound-alikes In-Reply-To: <01bd4da4$2c38d7e0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > Some B+S songs I think do sound a bit like others but often it surprises > me the number of them that just don't. Personally I find the Nick Drake > comparison pretty shallow and simply based on their voices being vaguely > similar, same goes for Love, not really like Love at all, except Dog on > Wheels. Listen to 'Da Capo' by Love - it's very b&s, there's one track, 'she comes in colours' that sounds just like the intro to seeing other people, and most of the other tracks have the same rhythms that b&s tend to use. rob xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 14:13:31 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:13:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Why Don't You. Message-ID: <01BD4DC1.0A74DE20@pc07628> Just switch off your television set go do something less boring instead. ************* New Game. ************* It's called "I'm an absolute paranoid shambles". Sometimes known as "Spot the imaginary axe-murderer". What you need : ******************* 1 x Personal Stereo (CD Player if you're posh). 1 x Tape / CD of IYFS. 1 x Very poorly lit street in a dog-rough town like, I dunno...Exeter ? Playing the Game : ********************** After a night out, (not necessarily drinking or partaking in substance abuse, though I imagine this would add to the ambience) you need to be walking your way home in the very poorly lit street described above, listening to your IYFS tape/cd described above on your personal stereo/cd player described above. Forward wind through Stars of Track and Field, Seeing Other People (not stopping to question Sturot Musgraves sexuality) and Me and the Major. The Objective : ***************** Whilst listening to Don't Look Back at ridiculously high volume, count how many times you unwittingly turn around to see who's following you !!!! Let's just say I hold the record for a 200 yard stretch of road at 27 times. The Major Flaw : ******************* Obviously If YOU are counting how many times you turn around, then you are going to be aware of actually doing it and thus are going to be tempted to cheat and make it all up. So why not ask a friend or even a relative along to count for you and double the amount of fun for everyone. Belle and Sebastian.....Quality fun for all ages. Lucy Croxford. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 15:14:41 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:14:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sound-alikes Message-ID: > Indeed occassionally little things jump out at you and you think it > sounds > like something else, often other people can't see it mind you. > OK I've been scared to put this out to the list, but I now think its time has come: Century Of Fakers reminds me of REM slightly. I think it's the backing vocals, the interval between the notes or something is very characteristic of Mike Mills' BVs for those wacky Georgians. It's just little sections of songs which remind you of others. It's not as if any B&S song is lifted wholesale from anyone else's (or their own) works of art. It is, however, interesting to see what connections other people make between the muzak we all so adore and other stuff. We're all happy bunnies and I'd like to stay that way. ByeBye, Liz (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ************************************************************* Love without hope, as when the young bird-catcher Swept off his tall hat to the squire's own daughter, So let the imprisoned larks escape and fly Singing about her head, as she rode by. Robert Graves ************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 9607129h at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 15:25:54 1998 From: 9607129h at xxx.uk (Neil Hargreaves) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:25:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I need your help Message-ID: <1F048B47B94@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> OK guys.... what should I do.... Last night (the 11th) I'm walking back from seeing Steve Coogan at the Royal Concert Hall. It's not bad. Then this guy comes up to me. he is Australian and smoking a menthol fag.... Here mate- he says- I've got this flatmate and she's seen you around town around three times. And she's just chickened off down the road OK? Me: (kinda worried ina nice way) OK Well what I'm going to do is give you her phone number and mayve you can call her. Her names Natalie.... So I took the number. Now I *know* I would never forgive myself if i didn't make the call. But how? When? And what do I say do I arrange to meet? Where? And what if (gulp) we meet and I really don't like her.... On the plus side the guy seemed really nice so she can't be that bad.... This is the most Belle and Sebastian thing that has ever happened to me.... And my love life really does need sorting out.... Yours, (belatedly pornstarnammed) Pipkin McMillan ------------------------------------------------- " despite myself at times well i have felt not in the mood for any of this..." ------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 15:50:21 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:50:21 EST Subject: Sinister: Sleep the Clock Message-ID: <7ccddd1b.35080440@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-12 07:03:55 EST, 100670.3522 at compuserve.com writes: << Does anyone have the 7 inch single by Even As We Speak where they do their version of Bizarre Love Triangle? It works at both 33rpm and 45rpm. Squarepusher thinks he's so clever, but he isn't really! >> That's a great ep. BLT works at both speeds, but I don't think the other three songs are as dynamic. And how annoying was it when another down-under female-fronted acoustic based band came out a few years later doing the same exact song...and they ended up getting a record deal out of it. currently listening to the last time i saw sadie by emma townshend currently freezing in new york city currently looking at a post-card photo of Audrey Hepburn nk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 15:49:38 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:49:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I need your help References: <1F048B47B94@lms.student.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <35080412.74E9E5B0@totalweb.co.uk> phone her and speak sweetly, she'll swoon and you can settle down and have babies simple really. if you get butterflies over it, then it's the real things! david -- Neil Hargreaves wrote: > > OK guys.... what should I do.... > > Last night (the 11th) I'm walking back from seeing Steve Coogan at > the Royal Concert Hall. It's not bad. Then this guy comes up to me. > he is Australian and smoking a menthol fag.... > > Here mate- he says- I've got this flatmate and she's seen you around > town around three times. And she's just chickened off down the road > OK? > Me: (kinda worried ina nice way) OK > Well what I'm going to do is give you her phone number and mayve you > can call her. Her names Natalie.... > > So I took the number. Now I *know* I would never forgive myself if i > didn't make the call. But how? When? > And what do I say do I arrange to meet? Where? And what if (gulp) we > meet and I really don't like her.... > > On the plus side the guy seemed really nice so she can't be that > bad.... > > This is the most Belle and Sebastian thing that has ever happened to > me.... And my love life really does need sorting out.... > > Yours, > (belatedly pornstarnammed) > Pipkin McMillan > > ------------------------------------------------- > " despite myself at times > well i have felt > not in the mood for any of this..." > ------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sha0801l at xxx.uk Thu Mar 12 16:06:45 1998 From: sha0801l at xxx.uk (McDougal) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:06:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm Crying Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19980312160645.0068df60@194.238.147.3> Dear all, I have tried for one and a half hours, and I cannot access the Belle and Sebastian chat room. It is now 4 o'clock, and I am despairing. My favourite band in the whole wide world are at this moment in time talking to fellow fans, and I cannot. I loaded the Virgin software, went to the Virgin place at port 6667, or whatever it was, but I could find no room even remotely to do with Belle and Sebastian. I even went into many of the other chat rooms and asked if anyone knew were it was, interrupting intricate conversations, and cybersex rituals as I went. Sadness. Can someone please tell me what went wrong????? Did anyone else have this problem???? I must know why I have been denied such a privelege. Your disappointedly, < d o u g > --------------------------------------- .....nobody writes them like they used to so it may as well be me........ --------------------------------------- somebody give me some hope................ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From biotmkx at xxx.EDU Thu Mar 12 16:36:30 1998 From: biotmkx at xxx.EDU (Tim Kelly) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 11:36:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Elliot Smith + some B&S In-Reply-To: <199803111947.TAA09705@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Gareth Sayeth: > can anyone tell me anything about Elliot Smith as featured on the Good Will > Hunting sound track i've never hear of him and neither has my local indie > record shop. what has he done before? any albums recomended? all information > greatly appreciated. Well, this has probably been covered by now, but Elliot Smith used to be in the Portland-based band Heatmeiser. From what I understand, he was not a primary songwriter in said band, which was more punk than Smith's solo stuff. Anyway, as Smith began to write more, he released several solo LPs (_Roman Candle_, _Elliot Smith_, and _Either/Or_, in order). The last 2 are on the Kill Rock Stars label. The first is somewhat harder to find, forget the name of the label just now. Mounting tension regarding Smith's growing prominence as a songwriter supposedly contributed to the break up of Heatmeiser in, I think, 1996. At first, Smith was thought to be a Lou Barlow clone, at least by fans of Barlow. Certainly, there are similaries between early Sebadoh/Sentridoh and Smith's work. Anyway, I don't hear people complaining much about that anymore. Smith's last two LPs are pretty highly regarded in American indie circles. The _Good Will Hunting_ sndtk contains 4-5 songs from _Either/Or_ and one new one, "Miss Misery", which has been nominated for an Academy Award. I heard Smith will be performing at the Awards, but don't quote me on that. Some B&S (as promised!)- Recently, a group of y'all (led by Clem, whose contributions I also enjoy on the GBV list) have been contending that the _Tigermilk_ version of "The State I Am In" in vastly superior to the _DOW_ version. I feel just the opposite. The subdued T-milk version slips under my radar, but every time I play the DOW version I yell "Goddamn! That's a great song." Then I go back to the T-milk version, thinking I must've missed something, but no. I just like the more fleshed out version better. So there. TimK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Thu Mar 12 16:50:00 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:50:00 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: IRC chat log Message-ID: There's a log of the chat now online - follow the link from: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/#chat Mail me if anyone can't get to the WWW - I will put it up on the list's fileserver to retrieve via email. Thanks for everyone for taking part - it was chaotic and sometimes a little weird. But worth it I think - yeah? Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From itstrue at xxx.net Thu Mar 12 16:38:12 1998 From: itstrue at xxx.net (Reid Dossinger) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 12:38:12 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Stereolab, cynicism Message-ID: <35080F74.43B7@earthlink.net> And I thought no one would pay attention! Okay, even though I'm just about dead from cynicism, let me just claify my Stereolab/Sleep the Clock Around comparison. The straight-ahead bass lines with the matching drums are practically Stereolab trademarks, not to mention the arrangement which has no verse or chorus and the repeated melody line. Plus, Sleep the Clock Around is (you have to admit) very unusual for a Belle and Sebastian song. Most of B&S's faster-paced songs have a soul or folk feel, but STCA has a total Stereolab feel, and is definitely the product of the 1990's, which ,again is pretty unusual for Belle and Sebastian. Believe it or not, I'm on David's side about thinking that Belle and Sebastian sound like Belle and Sebastian. I'm certainly not saying that B&S are Stereolab rip-offs or anything, but I don't think it's at all insulting to say that a band's song sounds like something else. Just about everything (well...everything melodic and catchy) is going to sound vaguely like something else, but that doesn't mean that it's not unique. Hmmm...speaking of vague... Apologies for being cynical. I was actually just sort of joking around (with the harshness at least) and, as we all know, it's pretty impossible to convey tone of voice in an email message. ~Reid, most likely the only person on this list into College Hoops. Go Heels! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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A: 1,331: 1 to change the light bulb and to post to the list that the light bulb has been changed. 14 to share similar experiences of changing light bulbs and how the light bulb could have been changed differently. 7 to caution about the dangers of changing light bulbs. 27 to point out spelling/grammar errors in posts about changing light bulbs. 53 to flame the spell checkers 156 to write to the list administrator complaining about the light bulb discussion and its inappropriateness to this mail list. 41 to correct spelling in the spelling/grammar flames. 109 to post that this list is not about light bulbs and to please take this email exchange to alt.lite.bulb 203 to demand that cross posting to alt.grammar, alt.spelling and alt.punctuation about changing light bulbs be stopped. 111 to defend the posting to this list saying that we all use light bulbs and therefore the posts **are** relevant to this mail list. 306 to debate which method of changing light bulbs is superior, where to buy the best light bulbs, what brand of light bulbs work best for this technique, and what brands are faulty. 27 to post URLs where one can see examples of different light bulbs 14 to post that the URLs were posted incorrectly, and to post corrected URLs. 3 to post about links they found from the URLs that are relevant to this list which makes light bulbs relevant to this list. 33 to summarize all posts to date, then quote them including all headers and footers, and then add "Me Too." 12 to post to the list that they are unsubscribing because they cannot handle the light bulb controversy. 19 to quote the "Me Too's" to say, "Me Three." 4 to suggest that posters request the light bulb FAQ. 1 to propose new alt.change.lite.bulb newsgroup. 47 to say this is just what alt.physic.cold_fusion was meant for, leave it here. 143 votes for alt.lite.bulb. 27 to post in HTML because they are using the IE or Netscape that had it turned on by default and are too clueless to look 48 to complain about the HTML posts 27 to post 'sorry I didn't realize it was on' -- in HTML 96 to complain about more HTML and post detailed instructions on how to change the setting 58 to mumble something about using a web browser to read mail 12 MIME posts with useless colors and bolds saying thanks for the help with the HTML mail 1 to post a GIF/JPG of the lightbulb hanging too close to their digital camera. 1 complaint from the guy using /usr/ucb/Mail who wants to know what the *@&(%$!@ has been going on 58 to complain about the binary post 74 to say they liked the binary and didn't mind it 1 post about how you can MAKE MONEY FAST!!!!! by selling lightbulbs and this report available for only $5. 1328 to reply to the list with the full spam attached and then put 'remove' at the end 3 to flame the other morons for replying to the spammer and CCing the list 1 from the list admin notifying that the list is looking for a bigger server to handle the load There have now been several followups: "How did I get on this list?" "How do I get off this list?" "REMOVE" "REMOVE UNSUB SIGNOFF REMOVE TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST" "unsubribe" [sic] "Morons, you have to send it to the majordomo address" "How am I supposed to know that?" ---------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mick at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 18:31:38 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:31:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sound-alikes References: Message-ID: <35082A0A.E77C9F8E@indiepop.com> Rob B wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Mar 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > > > Some B+S songs I think do sound a bit like others but often it surprises > > me the number of them that just don't. Personally I find the Nick Drake > > comparison pretty shallow and simply based on their voices being vaguely > > similar, same goes for Love, not really like Love at all, except Dog on > > Wheels. Well, listen to Bryter Layter and then listen to "Belle & Sebastian" off of the Dog on Wheels EP... Besides, the guy who works at the record store I bought IYFS at gave it a listen after I bought it, and after never having heard anything about it, he remarked upon how it was similar to Nick Drake, and then suggested I purchase some Nick Drake. Certainly not exactly the same, but there are definately some similarities. I think B&S definately have their own style which is very different from that of Nick Drake or Felt or Love or McCarthy or Orange Juice or whoever. But it's nice to pick out little bits and pieces of things you love in their sound... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From thaiant at xxx.gov Thu Mar 12 18:27:45 1998 From: thaiant at xxx.gov (Thaian N Ton ) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 13:27:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Le Pastie Message-ID: <35082914.34431EB5@pop.nci.nih.gov> Hello Listies, i have finally waded through all the posts from the past week and have had a thought about Le Pastie .. . As I was singing it, maybe (thought i) what was meant was a *pastille*, instead of a pastie. then i'd guess it'd be like a mint/fruit drop which might make sense. anyway, maybe not. (a fruit drop of the bourgeois?) help me out francophiles? until later that post i, bravely before the dc wind go i... thaian (stinky monchichi) x ****************************** Pictures to the Wall by Langston Hughes Shall I tell you of my old, old dreams Lost at the earth's strange turnings, Some in the sea when the waves foamed high, Some in the garret candle's burnings? Shall I tell you of bitter, forgotten dreams-- You who are still so young, so young? You with your wide brown singing eyes And laughter at the tip of your tongue. Shall I tell you of weary, weary dreams-- You who have lost no dreams at all, Or shall I keep quiet and let turn My ugly pictures to the wall? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ad099 at xxx.ca Thu Mar 12 18:28:02 1998 From: ad099 at xxx.ca (Shaun Schmeisser) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 14:28:02 -0400 (AST) Subject: Sinister: I'm Crying In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980312160645.0068df60@194.238.147.3> Message-ID: Your problem was that the 2 rooms were in fact "secret" ie. they don't show up when listing the channels. If you would have just typed in /j #sinister then you would have joined one, then through that found out you had to join another to see your questions/answers from the band. You really didn't miss a very informative hour... however you missed our learning who they "wank" to, and that "StuartD" likes to curse alot. I hope that makes you feel better shaun www.angelfire.com/co/coffin > I have tried for one and a half hours, and I cannot access the Belle and > Sebastian chat room. It is now 4 o'clock, and I am despairing. My favourite > band in the whole wide world are at this moment in time talking to fellow > fans, and I cannot. I loaded the Virgin software, went to the Virgin place > at port 6667, or whatever it was, but I could find no room even remotely to > do with Belle and Sebastian. I even went into many of the other chat rooms > and asked if anyone knew were it was, interrupting intricate conversations, > and cybersex rituals as I went. Sadness. > Can someone please tell me what went wrong????? Did anyone else have this > problem???? I must know why I have been denied such a privelege. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 18:46:35 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:46:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Chat? Bollocks, more like. Message-ID: I discovered too late that my chat software didn't allow me to post my questions, so I never got to ask them to the band before the free-for-all. For the record, here was the list I'd wrote: Q: If all the Mr. Men got into a fight, who do you think would win? Q: If you were a super-hero, what were your super-powers be? Q: To the males: Esther Rantzen or Anne Diamond? Q: Who's best? - Gary, Robbie, Mark, Howard or Jason? Q: Your home is burning down... what do you try to save? Q: When was the last time you all fell out? Q: If a soap opera was made about the band -what would it be called? Q: If you bumped into Steven Wells in the street, what would you do? Well, *I* thought they were good. Maybe next time. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | The small girl smiles, one eyelid flickers, | She whips a pistol from her knickers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pasty at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 02:54:05 1998 From: pasty at xxx.com (JOSEPH FOSTER) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:54:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: London Calling Message-ID: <35089FCD.32A0@geocities.com> Request List. 1. Sorry, sorry, sorry. But could someone email me about securing a copy of Tigermilk? Closer to Tottenham the better, I spose. 2. Could someone reccomend some really sad and slow country? 3. Could someone please give me £7 to go and see Urusei Yatsura tonight? 4. see 1. 5. Thankyou all so very much. Harry Currie, suicidal, and flatulent, porn starr. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Mar 12 19:07:14 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:07:14 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Barry Yorath Report Message-ID: <01bd4dea$1197f7e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Nudey Actress wrote: >Thanks for everyone for taking part - it was chaotic and sometimes a >little weird. But worth it I think - yeah? Do I detect the merest spark of doubt? I found it a bit deflating myself, but would never dream of saying so because a lot of people were trying very hard to make it work. And I suppose it did work, I just prefer the old Saturday Superstar all sit round and put your hand up approach. Anyway, apparently it's going to feature as part of a phone-in debate about uses of modern technology on Radio Port Talbot's popular lunchtime slot "The Barry Yorath Report". Birmingham-born Barry is said to be very disappointed by the absence of Sturgeon Musgrave, whose records he has been inflicting on the citizens of Port Talbot for some time. A dedicated thrillseeker, Barry is now investigating gay and lesbian newsgroups. Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bullis at xxx.net Thu Mar 12 23:02:30 1998 From: bullis at xxx.net (Faker) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 18:02:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: cra-a-a-a-azy chat Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980312180230.007c4690@pop.avana.net> a few random thoughts on the chat this morning: Was that really Belle and Sebastian we were talking to? Is there going to be a transcript of the craziness in #sinister, which was more interesting than what was going on in #jeepsterrecords? Why was Stuart D so pissy? Stuart M - what really is the 'saddest song'? Why were there more ops than normal people? What made susannah's questions so brilliant ? (no disrespect, Sus, but it was escaping me) What is a poof? that is all. I'm sure I will have more as time passes and the scars linger. Todd (the only person in the world on both the belle and sebastian and afghan whigs mailing lists) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tinystar at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 19:57:53 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:57:53 -0400 Subject: Sinister: calling all lawyers! urgent! Message-ID: Hi, Sorry to post this to the list, but I'm in a bind. I'm writing a paper on Nike (thesis: Nike exploits women workers in the Pacific Rim), and I desperately need some legal type of help. If there are any lawyers reading this, or if anyone knows a lawyer with email and could forward this, I'd reallyreally appreciate your replies, as soon as possible. The more answers, the better. When replying, please include your full name, credentials, the agency you're employed with (if any), your email address and your office address. Phone number is optional. Send all replies to tinystar at worldy.com. Basically, what I need to know is this: 1. Define 'exploitation'. 2. Is it up to the parent company or the contractor to enforce labour laws? 3. Should it be the parent company (Nike) or the individual factory owners who take the blame for rights violations? 4. To what degree is a company responsible for the goings-on it its factories, in instances where work is contracted out? 5. Should a company ensure that its employees are paid at least subsistence wage (in instances where this may be above minimum wage)? 6. Can employees be forced to work overtime? Is it reasonable to reprimand/punish those that do not wish to work overtime? 7. a. What is usually done when a company's employees register complaints (such as being verbally abused, forced to run laps around the factories for not meeting quotas, not having adequate medical care available in the workplace)? b. In a case where it is discovered that the accusations are true, does the parent company (in an outsourcing situation) have the right to enforce its own consequences, or must they be dealt with legally? 8. Is it within the realm of the law to request that a factory be closed, after receiving countless reports of rights abuses? 9. Is it legal for Nike to wash their hands of the responsibility for the treatment of workers, in a plant that is ultimately operated by them? Thanks so much, and please remember to include your name, credentials, name of company, company address, and email address. And reply privately - tinystar at worldy.com. truly, jessica tinystar at worldy.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Thu Mar 12 21:41:36 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:41:36 EST Subject: Sinister: Seeing Other People - kiddie-waltz style Message-ID: <9aedd192.35085692@aol.com> For those who might be interested: On Fakeperson's blandish web page http://members.aol.com/Fakeperson/index.html there is a link to "Lolly's Piano Recital" where one can hear her badly recorded kiddie-waltz version of "Seeing Other People" (among other things) performed at her last recital. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 00:41:29 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:41:29 -0800 Subject: Sinister: "all my sinister children" Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF031017F6@AMERWKSNT01> >>Q: If a soap opera was made about the band -what would it be called? Oddly the other day I found myself stuck at home watching :::blushes::: MTV's soap "the Real World" (about 7 "real" people put in a posh apartment for a few weeks and having their lives taped) and half wondered if they couldn't get Belle and Sebastian to do the next season.... there's enough people, after all, and it couldn't possibly be any less interesting than the last few casts they've had... (...going off to hang my head in shame & jealous of those who got to take part in the irc chat...) t. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From svolaric at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 00:43:48 1998 From: svolaric at xxx.com (sandra volaric) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 16:43:48 PST Subject: Sinister: the boy who cried help... Message-ID: <19980313004348.6478.qmail@hotmail.com> For the young man who was asking what he should do with the phone number,..well i believe everything happens for a reason,..so give it a go, you just might find her to be a belle of some sorts :) and its a cute little story, so don't let us down here at the mailing list! :o) Spit-Girl Mitar uhh,..no. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cj1530a at xxx.edu Fri Mar 13 01:36:40 1998 From: cj1530a at xxx.edu (boy sets fire) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 20:36:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: London Calling References: <35089FCD.32A0@geocities.com> Message-ID: <35088DA8.D2DAF30F@american.edu> this is just a question thrown out for general answering. could someone give me the lowdown on the new yatsura album, like if youd compare more to "we are" or the singles collection ... also, anyone know if it has been released in the u.s. yet, and if its under the name here of urusei yatsura or just plain yatsura... thank you for your help . :) boy sets fire JOSEPH FOSTER wrote: > Request List. > > 1. Sorry, sorry, sorry. But could someone email me about securing a copy > of Tigermilk? Closer to Tottenham the better, I spose. > > 2. Could someone reccomend some really sad and slow country? > > 3. Could someone please give me £7 to go and see Urusei Yatsura tonight? > > 4. see 1. > > 5. Thankyou all so very much. > > Harry Currie, suicidal, and flatulent, porn starr. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 02:12:53 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 02:12:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: anyone for T? Message-ID: <199803130211.CAA04077@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> I suppose this is aimed at Katrina: Have B&S been asked to play T in the Park, or have they any thoughts on the subject? I know it would be unlikely (since they play rarely and pick strange venues) but what with it being in Scotland it would make a brilliant summer if it happened - or alternatively be a complete embarassing shambles. Šor are they only going to play when they release something and stick to their rather unusual choice of venues?. Mind you now that I'm thinking about it, B&S would probably never do the festival thang - it just doesn't match up with their track history to date (or my perception of the band). So no 'T' is a probability. Byee, The Laird of East Fountainbridge "An Egg is good for you" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mick at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 04:14:39 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 23:14:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Live B&S Covers Message-ID: <3508B2AF.EA22E6AF@indiepop.com> Hello, Well, no one responded, and I'm impatient ;) So, I found the archives (they worked great but were a little difficult to find, as you could infer) and checked out some show reviews on Andy Dean's lovely site. Probably made some mistakes. Probably left some stuff out. Correct me please in either of those cases! Anyway, here are all the covers I could find that B&S have performed live. "I'll Be Your Mirror" (the Velvet Underground) "Like A Rolling Stone" (Bob Dylan) "Reel Around the Fountain" (the Smiths) "Something on My Mind" (the Left Banke) "Matchstick Men" ? (I was a little confused on this one) "In A Nutshell" (Orange Juice) "You Must Believe Me" (Curtis Mayfield) "Rowboat" (Beck) "Some Candy Talking" (JAMC) As I understand it, a couple of the songs were only performed by one or two members of the band. Not real clear on that... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 06:51:04 1998 From: R.J.Anderson at xxx.uk (Richard Anderson) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 06:51:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Workloaad Message-ID: <3508D758.6EA3@smtphost.dur.ac.uk> Hi just did my radio show and played mayflower and judy in the four hour slot. I'm unsubscribing for easter and my four essays. See ya round. Richard. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From a-bergman at xxx.edu Fri Mar 13 07:02:59 1998 From: a-bergman at xxx.edu (Amanda Bergman) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:02:59 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: 159 hours Message-ID: until I leave for the UK! yay! and I always thought I was bad at math... but speaking of numbers, today is my dad's birthday! Big Art is turning a ripe old 47! (that's about 410,592 hours, according to my calculations) So it's Friday the thirteenth *and* a full moon, apparently. Maybe all of these circumstances had a bearing on yesterday's chat? Some kind of cosmic thing? Anyway, my dad seems to be under the impression that the best way to avoid bad luck on Friday the 13th when there's a full moon is to burn socks on a mountaintop. So I think tomorrow I shall round up all the olive green argyles I can find and head to...wait, there are no mountains here in the flat American midwest. Perhaps someone can ascend a Scottish summit for me and do the honors vicariously...? (oh, in other Big Art Bergman news, my dad has officially been inititated into the wide world of chat, so if you run into him there, please be friendly!) More specifically B&S related content: one highlight of the chat for me (aside from Stuart David's incessant sarcasm and abrupt departure, of course) was the acknowledgement that "Lonliness of the Middle Distance Runner" will appear on one of the upcoming releases. That song is so incredibly beautiful. Is anyone else as smitten with it as I am? the HoneyTiger wrote: >I will sOon pack up my bags and sail east, a bright new future >in showbiz awaiting, armed only with my copy of Tigermilk in >my handbag and fiddling with the clasps on my catsuit. >Who'll buy my video? well, given his penchant for stimulating entertainment on video (Columbo, anyone?) and his strange fascination with all things "exotic," I would venture to say that Stuey D would be a prime candidate. Susannah, what do you think? time to "get to my kip," then. (I am learning the native lingo...) bye bye, CinderSwan Bergman (who hopes that MysticTag's fairytale premonitions come true!) ------------------ Amanda Bergman Northwestern University a-bergman at nwu.edu "And like a fool, I walked away and left them my beautiful swan." --Charles Bukowski ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From carsegus at xxx.es Fri Mar 13 00:37:29 1998 From: carsegus at xxx.es (Carlos) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 01:37:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: F.I.B. GIG!! Message-ID: <35087FC9.5986@ergos.es> Do you have any plans for yor next holidays? a suggestion... you should visit a city called Benicassim in Spain Why in that place? the main reason is: Belle & Sebastian will be playing LIVE at F.I.B (Festival Internacional de Benicassim) the next August 8 (saturday)!! The festival will celebrate its fourth edition the first august weekend (7,8 and 9) at this sunny city by the Mediterranean sea. Another bands will be playing: Tindersticks, Velocette, Saint Etienne, Yo La Tengo, Supergrass, Bjork, Strangelove, Spiritualized, Chemical Bros, Prolapse, Strangelove, Tortoise... and lots of more see you all there! Carlos ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From at xxx.uk> Fri Mar 13 08:45:19 1998 From: at xxx.uk> ( at xxx.uk>) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 08:45:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sorry, too many E-mails ! Message-ID: <000001bd4e5c$8ccaca60$01e3989e@alex-s> unsubscribe sinister ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From daeril at xxx.es Thu Mar 12 09:27:50 1998 From: daeril at xxx.es (Alberto Perez) Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 10:27:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle in Benicassim!!!!! Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980312092750.0066ec4c@pop3.redestb.es> B E L L E A N D S E B A S T I A N I N B E N I C A S S I M (SPAIN)!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrewnic at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 09:58:55 1998 From: Andrewnic at xxx.com (Andrewnic) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 04:58:55 EST Subject: Sinister: The Scotsman Message-ID: <92e84707.3509035d@aol.com> >From "The Scotsman" Friday 13th March 1998, CD Review: Celebrity chef Nick Nairn's LAST GOOD BUY BELLE & SEBASTIAN If You're Feeling Sinister Jeepster, £15.99 They're a kind of a Nineties Simon and Garfunkel - but a bit funkier than that. It's very quirky: on one of the tracks there's even a great stylophone break. The lyrics are worth reading because they are quite strange in themselves. The whole album has a nice atmosphere and I find it very invigorating but also quite mellow. You hear different things in it every time. The music in some ways is quite simple but also quite rough. There's not a huge amount of production on it, but in other ways it's quite sophisticated, there's a lot going on. I just never tire of listening to it. ****************** Andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Fri Mar 13 10:01:06 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:01:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Even as we Speak Message-ID: Or, the case of the disappearing Australian band. Did they release anything else? Not many people have had the courage to cover New Order and I wonder if any of you know of any other covers besides this Bizarre Love Triangle version , the Oyster Band's rendition of Love Vigilantes Galaxie 500's take on Ceremony and James Last doing Blue Monday. The last one I haven't heard. It must be a scream! Mark. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 09:39:08 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:39:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Live B&S Covers Message-ID: <01bd4e63$dea906b0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >"I'll Be Your Mirror" (the Velvet Underground) >"Like A Rolling Stone" (Bob Dylan) >"Reel Around the Fountain" (the Smiths) >"Something on My Mind" (the Left Banke) >"Matchstick Men" ? (I was a little confused on this one) >"In A Nutshell" (Orange Juice) >"You Must Believe Me" (Curtis Mayfield) >"Rowboat" (Beck) >"Some Candy Talking" (JAMC) > > As I understand it, a couple of the songs were only performed by one or >two members of the band. Not real clear on that... There's a "Party Fears Two" by the Associates goes in there somewhere too. Keith. (The "I'll be your Mirror" and "Matchstick Men" are a wee bit flaky really!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Fri Mar 13 10:17:17 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:17:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Not B&S:New Order covers Message-ID: Actually I've just thought of one myself. Lundi Bleu by Times. Everything that guy did was appalling, including his tribute to Manchester. IMHO of course! -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Engineering & Technology Elsevier Science Ltd The Boulevard Kidlington Oxon OX5 1GB UK Tel. +44 1865 843296 Fax +44 1865 853319 E-mail m.hester at elsevier.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 10:43:31 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:43:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Benicassim, chocolate peanut butter & trout Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F897@RMF1> Firstly can Katrina or David please confirm that B&S are playing in Benicassim. Can anyone E-Mail me more information about this place as it sounds great regardless of whether or not B&S are playing, that would just be a bonus. Oh, and Amanda Bergman, real funny! Gullible is a person and I am he (although I kind of knew it all along). Huw P.S- I baked the trout with seasoning, wrapped in silver foil, ate it with peas & chips, and it tasted fine. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Mar 13 11:01:45 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:01:45 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Birthday Boy (NBSC) Message-ID: <01bd4e6f$696672a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> -----Original Message----- De: Amanda Bergman Para: sinister at majordomo.net Fecha: viernes 13 de marzo de 1998 8:32 Asunto: Sinister: 159 hours >but speaking of numbers, today is my dad's birthday! Big Art is turning a >ripe old 47! (that's about 410,592 hours, according to my calculations) Many happy returns of the day, Big Tackle! 47, eh? Not bad going. I enjoyed that Young Artie photo on Paul's website, took me right back to the days of Saturday Night Fever and Boogie Nights. My own photo is equally seductive. Big Pete ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 11:01:21 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 11:01:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Happy birthday to ya Message-ID: <01bd4e6f$5b3ea350$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Happy birthday Mr.Bergman. 47 Makes you the same age as my dad - actually, no it doesn't, he's 48. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Fri Mar 13 12:03:52 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:03:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: bandchat again Message-ID: Apologies - using a decent operating system, I didn't remind myself that on MS Windows makes assumptions about filetypes from names. For anyone whose PC told them they couldn't view the chat log when they clicked on it, it's rubbish - click again now. Oh, and feel free to comment. Was it just me who didn't know that BarryYorath was Peter Miller? Honey aka Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980313122351.006ad018@mail.interlog.com> hi :) i have the next week off from school and i want to go down to the library to get some new books to read.. i was wondering if you sinisters have any good recommendations for me.. im in the mood for a book with a belle and sebastian type story - about love and obsessions and average events that are not-so-average when looked at closely.. something similar to the beautiful, beautiful "belle lettres" from the tangents ezine... or just send me any sort of book list! thanks for the help.. teri ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 13:37:02 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:37:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: New Order Message-ID: <01BD4E85.1BAA3B80@pc07628> >Mark wrote: >Subject: Sinister: Even as we Speak >Or, the case of the disappearing Australian band. Did they release >anything else? >Not many people have had the courage to cover New Order and I >wonder if any of you know of any other covers besides this Bizarre >Love Triangle version , the Oyster Band's rendition of Love Vigilantes >Galaxie 500's take on Ceremony and James Last doing Blue Monday. The >last one I haven't heard. It must be a scream! Frente also did Bizarre Love Triangle I believe I am right in saying. Also Paul Young did JD's Love Will Tear Us Apart........TWAT. (Slightly off the beaten-track but well....poo it's Friday!) Lucy. -- ******************************************************************** "Yes there is a Santa Claus, and anyone who blasphemes against Santa or any of his helpers shall DIE!!" Jimmy Tarbuck. ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jbleasdale at xxx.net Fri Mar 13 13:48:02 1998 From: jbleasdale at xxx.net (John Bleasdale) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 13:48:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Country Message-ID: <01BD4E86.A546B2A0@jbleasdale-pc.rmplc.co.uk> << 2. Could someone reccomend some really sad and slow country? >> Assuming I've interpreted your idea of "country" as music and not land-mass correctly, you may want to try Lambchop, Palace, Silver Jews, Vic Chesnutt and/or Smog which are the closest interesting music gets to being country (in my opinionated opinion). John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Pierre.Coat at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 09:45:01 1998 From: Pierre.Coat at xxx.com (Pierre.Coat at xxx.com) Date: 13 Mar 1998 09:45:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New in the place Message-ID: <"0313144830-New in the place"@MHS> Hi everybody, just a few words to introduce myself. My name is Pierre, I'm french (more exactly, I'm from Britanny) and I live in North Carolina, USA, probably the most boring place in the world... but I was able to find 4 "If you are feeling Sinister" CDs in this middle of nowhere that is Hickory... By the way, if someone could E-mail me informations about this spanish festival... "Sing me to sleep..." Pierre. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 14:52:26 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Rob B) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:52:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Country In-Reply-To: <01BD4E86.A546B2A0@jbleasdale-pc.rmplc.co.uk> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, John Bleasdale wrote: > << 2. Could someone reccomend some really sad and slow country? >> > > Assuming I've interpreted your idea of "country" as music and not > land-mass correctly, you may want to try Lambchop, Palace, Silver > Jews, Vic Chesnutt and/or Smog which are the closest interesting > music gets to being country (in my opinionated opinion). > John Get Lambchop's first (i think) album - it's called 'how i quit smoking' - it's absolutely brilliant - it's got 'the man who loved beer' on it, which is a swoon-inducingly gorgeous melange of slide guitars and deep drawling vocals. Plus they're the only band i've ever known to credit one of their members exclusively to playing open-end wrenches and lacquer thinner can. I'm not a great country fan, but this is fantastic. Not much b&s content really.... hmm, actually lambchop have roughly as many members as b&s (about 9 i think) - rather tenuous, but never mind. rob xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 15:02:04 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Rob B) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:02:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: 159 hours In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > More specifically B&S related content: one highlight of the chat for me > (aside from Stuart David's incessant sarcasm and abrupt departure, of > course) was the acknowledgement that "Lonliness of the Middle Distance > Runner" will appear on one of the upcoming releases. That song is so > incredibly beautiful. Is anyone else as smitten with it as I am? yes yes yes - it's the best thing i've heard for ages. i've been trying to work out the lyrics, not very successfully so far - here's my feeble effort - i'd appreciate any corrections from people more aurally-proficient than myself... The loneliness of the middle-distance runner -------------------------------------------- I take a second of the day to think about the things that we have done this year The darkness and the pouring rain, them underneath the smoke is where we are together (?????) The future's looking colourful, it's the colour of the chaos and corruption of a happy soul A happy soul will run in the field, run in the field, run in the field 'til the rain dies down. The railway ticket states the destination but it doesn't mean, we will show There's a fork upon the line, we'll pay the guard to switch the sign, and off we'll go The future's looking wonderful, it's the wonder of the business-man, it's currency (???) to sell your wares, but no-one cares Oh you care I know, you care I know, you care I know, I forgot for a while. And on a sultry afternoon spent in this year you give yourself a headache yeah. So I take revenge in stories, and I'm dreaming of the time when we're on stage Have you seen the loneliness of the middle distance runner, as he stopped the race and looked around, all at the stage I've seen it now And walk to the station, walk to the station, walk to the station Don't you follow me well, that's my attempt anyway - i've worked out the chords as well if anyone's interested. rob xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mick at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 15:11:55 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:11:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: New Order covers References: Message-ID: <35094CBB.D8BF078F@indiepop.com> Mark Hester wrote: > Not many people have had the courage to cover New Order and I > wonder if any of you know of any other covers besides this Bizarre > Love Triangle version , the Oyster Band's rendition of Love Vigilantes > Galaxie 500's take on Ceremony and James Last doing Blue Monday. The > last one I haven't heard. It must be a scream! Velocity Girl did a somewhat lackluster version of Your Silent Face on a 7" on Merge (the Beach Boys cover on the flip was much better). I read somewhere that Schrasj covered Age of Consent on their album. Never liked Schrasj enough to buy their album, though. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 15:08:33 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Rob B) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:08:33 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: you'll read it in a book tonight... In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980313122351.006ad018@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 vlass at interlog.com wrote: > hi :) > > i have the next week off from school and i want to go down to the library to > get some new books to read.. i was wondering if you sinisters have any good > recommendations for me.. im in the mood for a book with a belle and > sebastian type story - about love and obsessions and average events that are > not-so-average when looked at closely.. something similar to the beautiful, > beautiful "belle lettres" from the tangents ezine... or just send me any > sort of book list! > > thanks for the help.. > > teri Carson McCullers, 'The heart is a lonely hunter' It's been mentioned on the list before, and that's why I read it - may I take the opportunity of thanking whoever it was that mentioned it, as it is the best thing I have read for such a long time. It is very belle and sebastian, really sensitive and touching... Is her other stuff as good? Other books I'd recommend: Dostoevsky - Netochka Nesvanova Hermann Hesse - Gertrude that's all for now rob xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From afoley at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 15:17:51 1998 From: afoley at xxx.com (afoley at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:17:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm new, please don't be cruel.. Message-ID: <852565C6.0054D45C.00@cscmail.csc.com> Greetings All, I'm new around here, just one day so far, and I'm still not quite sure how this goes, but you seem like a pretty decent bunch so I'll break the ice with a little joke first: Q. Why is the Wonderbra the sheepdog of lingerie? A. Because it rounds them up and points them in the right direction! wehey boom boom!! Now onto a spooky dream bit: I had a very vivid dream the other night that it was the end of the world, well there was this "thing" in the sky flying around, and there were planes surrounding it trying to shoot it down. I thought it was a spaceship at first (and no i hadn't been watching Independance Day), but I could see this scene out of the window and also on TV at the same time, where they were showing 24 hour news, due to th eimpending doom. There was talk about floods, earthquakes and stuff like that. Just as I thought I'd reached the end of the road and was gonna be wiped out, I woke up - pheww! It was well spooky. Anyway, on the news yesterday, there was all this talk of an asteroid coming to hit us and end the world in the year 2028 - Bloody Hell, was this a sign or what? Well, I don't want to bore you with any more guff than necessary, but I'll fire in with the odd mail every now and then, as I get to learn what's going on. Cheers, Rick Ramrod (Haven't I got to use a name like that or something?)or is Dick Dasterdly better? PS - I'll be seeing Animal House (no, not Farm!) tomorrow night, and I'm looking forward to it very much. Maybe I'll let you know all about it next week. You will no doubt here more about this very fine band in time anyway...... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From thaiant at xxx.gov Fri Mar 13 15:37:51 1998 From: thaiant at xxx.gov (Thaian N Ton ) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 10:37:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Frente References: <01BD4E85.1BAA3B80@pc07628> Message-ID: <350952CC.1207015@pop.nci.nih.gov> So about Bizarre Love Triangle: Adrian Evans wrote: Frente also did Bizarre Love Triangle I believe I am right in saying. too right. off their album 'marvin' ... (slow and girlie) later sweet cherubs, thaian (stinky monchichi) x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 16:02:37 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:02:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Country References: <01BD4E86.A546B2A0@jbleasdale-pc.rmplc.co.uk> Message-ID: <3509589D.A55168AF@easynet.co.uk> John Bleasdale wrote: > << 2. Could someone reccomend some really sad and slow country? >> > > Assuming I've interpreted your idea of "country" as music and not > land-mass correctly, you may want to try Lambchop, Palace, Silver > Jews, Vic Chesnutt and/or Smog which are the closest interesting > music gets to being country (in my opinionated opinion). > John John is absolutely right ! There is nothing interesting about the music, lives or personal mores of the like of George Jones, Hank Williams, Willie Nelson. Ernest Tubb, Loretta Lynn, Patsy Cline, Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Jerry Jeff Walker, Townes Van Zandt, Dolly Parton, Iris DeMent, Junior Brown, Alison Kraus, David Munyon, Richard Buckner and loads of other n'er do owts. regards, yercountryluvinuncleTurt ps. he IS bang on about Lambchop, Palace and Silver Jews though. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 16:10:15 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:10:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Country References: Message-ID: <35095A67.5E1F86E@easynet.co.uk> Rob B wrote: > Get Lambchop's first (i think) album - it's called 'how i quit > smoking' - > it's absolutely brilliant - it's got 'the man who loved beer' on it, > which > is a swoon-inducingly gorgeous melange of slide guitars and deep > drawling > vocals. It's also got the 'save it for a future spouse' heart to heart speak of 'Theone'. With an instrumental reprise. Verily a stonking melter of an album. yerluvinuncleTurt ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 14:39:51 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (aadam at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 09:39:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Just like I was saying (NBSC) Message-ID: <35094533.EEA@interaccess.com> This is about an hour and a half outside of Chicago. (stolen from the Chicago shows list) ========== Apr 15 Wed ========== The Box Tops // Rockford MetroCentre, According to http://www.boxtops.com/bttour.htm, Alex Chilton is part of the touring band. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bullis at xxx.net Fri Mar 13 19:33:07 1998 From: bullis at xxx.net (Faker) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:33:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: No B&S at all - I stand corrected Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980313143307.007bf820@pop.avana.net> My bold and stupid claim that I was the only person in the world on both the B&S and Afghan Whigs mailing lists has been refuted by two people. I am mortified - what kind of freak listens to both these bands? Ohh...waitaminit... off for more amphetimines and coffee.... Todd P.S. - sinister chatters: Thanks for explaining POOF to me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Mar 13 15:00:23 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:00:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S gig stuff etc. References: <199803130211.CAA04077@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <35094A07.62148966@virgin.net> plaird wrote: > > I suppose this is aimed at Katrina: well i had better respond then hadn't i! :) > Have B&S been asked to play T in the Park, or have they > any thoughts on the subject? i don't know if they have been asked or not, but seeing as the festival is the 11th and 12th of July, they will still be in rehearsals for the forthcoming autumn gigs and therefore unable to play! also, the band have always said they don't really want to play festivals either, so i think it would be very unlikely if they did. > So are they only going to play when they release something > and stick to their rather unusual choice of venues?. Funny you should mention this one actually ... anyone who was in on yesterday's chat would have heard the band members talking about the gigs they are planning to do late summer/autumn. over August, September and October Belle and Sebastian plan to play dates in England, Wales, Ireland, Northern Europe and along the East Coast of the US. At this point, nothing is definite and the band have only just started looking into venues and dates, so please don't hassle either them or me for more information! :) Also, anyone upset that the above does not mention dates for Southern Europe and the West Coast of the US, please don't fret, just stay tuned, as you won't be left out. Again, all of this planning is in the very first stage (ie, it was only decided a couple of days ago) and as i know more definite details, i will pass them on. Promise!!! :) With regards to the unusual choice for venues, again i don't know, but i don't think they'll stray much from the norm. See my next mail to disappoint anyone who has booked holidays in Spain! Cheers, Katrina. (keeping you updated!) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Mar 13 15:12:49 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:12:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Belle in Benicassim! & F.I.B. GIG!! References: <35087FC9.5986@ergos.es> Message-ID: <35094CF1.5CEC79B5@virgin.net> Alberto Perez wrote: > B E L L E A N D S E B A S T I A N I N B E N I C A S S I M (SPAIN)!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Carlos wrote: > Do you have any plans for yor next holidays? > a suggestion... you should visit a city called Benicassim in Spain > Why in that place? the main reason is: > Belle & Sebastian will be playing LIVE at F.I.B (Festival Internacional > de Benicassim) the next August 8 (saturday)!! > see you all there! Well, yes maybe some people will go, but not to see Belle and Sebastian. Even though the band were invited to play, they have declined the invitation. I'm sorry to everyone who was planning to go and see B&S there. Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Mar 13 17:00:12 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:00:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: V-Twin References: <1D581622986@student.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3509661C.CA6E8DE2@virgin.net> Julia Mary Brown wrote: > V-Twin, the band that Chris Geddes sometimes plays > (played?) with It's plays ... they're going to be releasing a single on Domino sometime soon! someone tell me to go home .... Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Mar 13 17:03:46 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:03:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I sense a bent ballad References: <980308191444.n0009704.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <350966F2.6A1CAED4@virgin.net> susannah wrote: > See if you can get these, either band memebers or listees: > 1) hot rum custard (Yum!) > 2) Bogart germ tract > 3) hot senses erupt > 4) lethal lip cum > 5) avid art stud > 6) a shot Ukraine > 7) I mock coke > 8) ample bible cellos > > Don't post answers to the list, I'll post them myself later. hey susannah ... do we get the answers yet??? i can only get three of them ... oh, and three cheers to susannah for the novel questions yesterday! does anyone write for a magazine out there ... i think she'd make a fantastic interviewer ... :) byeee, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.19980313122351.006ad018@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: ahh, she has my name :P yes, good books: hideous kinky - esther freud straightjacket and tie - eugene stein secret history - donna tartt if you go to my web page ther is a whole book list btw. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "and the times that we all hoped would last, like a train they have gone by so fast and though we stood together on the edge of the platform, we were not moved by them" On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 vlass at interlog.com wrote: > hi :) > > i have the next week off from school and i want to go down to the library to > get some new books to read.. i was wondering if you sinisters have any good > recommendations for me.. im in the mood for a book with a belle and > sebastian type story - about love and obsessions and average events that are > not-so-average when looked at closely.. something similar to the beautiful, > beautiful "belle lettres" from the tangents ezine... or just send me any > sort of book list! > > thanks for the help.. > > teri > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ha5lwh at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 17:27:17 1998 From: ha5lwh at xxx.uk (lee.whitehead) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 17:27:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Later....... Message-ID: So the Jools Holland show did`nt come of, shame. I would have loved to see the big jam thing they do at the start..... picture the scene: Metallica to the left, the Wu-Tang Clan to the right. Jools himself sets the ball rolling with one of his honky tonk/jazzy/muso (yawn) piano riffs, then James Hetfield and the Metallica lads go absolute ape shit and their plectrums begin to melt....meanwhile our heroes look at each other with puzzled expressions....it`s the Wu`s turn to join in and the D.J. fellow drops in a phat beat (yeahh man, I know all the lingo!).....the studio audience smile and some even clap in time! the rest just look pretty.....the camera pans over to Belle and Sebastian, you can tell from Stuart`s expression that he wishes they`d decidied to go with that O-zone idea, but it`s too late now. Belle and Sebastian begin to join in with the honky tonk/thrash/hip-hop noise that now fills the studio.....and if you strain your ears really hard you just might make out the delicate strumming of an acoustic guitar and a single organ tradgically lost in all the chaos of rock and roll......Jools is told by the director to wind it up, he begins to implement the outro...... it all falls quiet (that is after a 5 minute drum solo from the Metallica sticks man, accompanied by some impromtuo break dancing from Celine Dion, who`s also there).......hmmmm i can now see why they did`nt do the show, but it would have made great television! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 14:28:27 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:28:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: chat moans - i'm sorry but....poo. Message-ID: belle and sebastian. the chat, what a fucking disqappointment. i'm sorry, and i have no ideas as to rorganisational changes or anything, but i think the IRC format just doesn't work. Nothing to do with Honey/David/katrina, it was mostly the attitudes of the band, and towards *ceratin* fans. Stuart fucking David was being an arsehole for most of the time - sorry, but this would be MY personal opinion of having a little RESPECT for the fans????? then again, *some* fans actually thought something good might happen. *Some* other fans seemed more arsed about wanking. FUCKING GROW UP. The few times the band answered a question, whoever asked it seemed to lost their voice in #jeepster and bythe time could type followup in #sinister - the plot had been lost again. Then again i supose its good as i lost my voice else i would have started having a right go at Stuart David. If we want any decent answers, i just don't think IRC is the way we're going to get them. one simple reason is that it would simply take too long to type. I mean, I supose it was better than nothng....but.... And the time was awkward, 2pm.....afternoon for the meeja i can understand, but were there actually any REAL meeja people there? i skived out of media studies to try and get this for the student mag affair, and i am going to get SO bollocked, so I am going to make up a B&S interview, 'cos quite frankly, I can't print this, which was what was mosty said: StuartD : carbon StuartD : caesuim StuartD : I'm bored, can i go and eat some chips now? confu`sion (zhon) *n* a mental state characterised by disorientation regarding time, place or person, causing bewilderment, perplexity, lack of orderly thought, and inability to choose or act decisively. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! "Gosh, life is too much..." --Donovan http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Sat Mar 14 00:03:20 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:03:20 -0800 Subject: Sinister: like me Message-ID: <3509C948.CA0@earthlink.net> hey. this talk of new order got me to remember something. i have always, always wanted to hear a band cover thieves like us. does anyone know if anyone has. i tried to in my last band but it was such a pain trying to teach everyone everything i said fuck it. but, in my opinion, thieves like us is one of the top ten best songs ever by anyone. still flooded, -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Sat Mar 14 00:08:57 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:08:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Country References: Message-ID: <3509CA90.1C22@earthlink.net> actually, lambchop's first album is "jack's tulips" aka "i hope you're sitting down" i have to write this in because lambchop is one of my favorite bands. and at last count there were 13 members in the band. "jack's tulips", in my opinion, is far superior to "how i quit smoking". and "hank" is pretty good, also. and on the new one, "thriller", they cover three east river pipe songs, which i think the duke brought up a long time ago. > > Get Lambchop's first (i think) album - it's called 'how i quit smoking' - > it's absolutely brilliant - it's got 'the man who loved beer' on it, which > is a swoon-inducingly gorgeous melange of slide guitars and deep drawling > vocals. Plus they're the only band i've ever known to credit one of their > members exclusively to playing open-end wrenches and lacquer thinner can. > I'm not a great country fan, but this is fantastic. > > Not much b&s content really.... hmm, actually lambchop have roughly as > many members as b&s (about 9 i think) - rather tenuous, but never mind. > > rob xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Fri Mar 13 18:38:40 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 18:38:40 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: chat moans - i'm sorry but....poo. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > The few times the band answered a question, whoever asked it seemed to > lost their voice in #jeepster and bythe time could type followup in > #sinister - the plot had been lost again. Oops - sorry. All I can say is it was a horror to balance between long delays as the band didn't seem to want to answer some questions and just stayed silent instead of declining (a decent response to some of the questions, not I thought to others), and a deluge of questions and follow-ups all on top of each other which confused the participants as they're new to this. It was very hard making sure everyone had a decent say, but at the same time that everyone who wanted had a go. Sorry if anyone felt shut out, it wasn't intentional. I also spilt crisps all over the floor. > If we want any decent answers, i just don't think IRC is the way we're > going to get them. one simple reason is that it would simply take too > long to type. Maybe you're right. The band were very new to the format and I tried to encourage some contact on IRC before but I only ever saw Stuart and Stuart online. I think this was a lot of the problem. What are "decent answers" though and will you get them in any format - it's sometimes a feature of people, not things. Some will say the whole thing was too formal, some not formal enough. The free-for-all in the middle had the band screaming for the room to be closed again, but at the end with Sarah it was fine. Maybe they'll come off and on IRC now they've tried it, in which case fine as long as no-one treats them as anything more than another person in the room. Remember the list and the IRC room are for YOU. > And the time was awkward, 2pm.....afternoon for the meeja i can > understand, but were there actually any REAL meeja people there? It's not obvious but I doubt it - maybe Katrina knows. But the timeslot was also for the *band* who said they couldn't get into the office later on. They were washing their hair. Honey xxx P.S. Quick thankyou to all the ops though and david and katrina who were stars. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Fri Mar 13 15:56:37 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:56:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Crush me Message-ID: <01bd4e98$9ae6bb90$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Just saw this thing on the news at lunchtime thought people might find quite funny. The British Government's just come up with a cracking new scheme to get people to pay their road tax (for the benefit of countries that don't do road tax, it's to pay for new roads etc.). They've started this pilot scheme in London whereby if you persist in not paying road tax, they just take your car away and crush it! So there's this guy on the 1o'clock news standing in front of a file of 400 crushed cars which was well funny. I'm all for a few more comedy laws like that to be passed. Perhaps if you don't pay your council tax they could knock your house down - just as well the poll tax doesn't exist any more otherwise they'd have to employ snipers to take out citizens. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Pierre.Coat at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 14:18:28 1998 From: Pierre.Coat at xxx.com (Pierre.Coat at xxx.com) Date: 13 Mar 1998 14:18:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: No B&S at all - I stand corrected Message-ID: <"0313192319-Re:Sinister: No BS at all - I stand corrected"@MHS> Well Todd, I'm very sorry, but I'm an Afghan Whigs fan too, and I also listen to Pavement, Sonic Youth, Pixies ans a lot more. Is there a problem with this? Pierre ("I'm a Gentleman...") ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Subject: Sinister: No B&S at all - I stand corrected Author: /o=ALCATEL CABLE NA/prmd=ACAB/admd=ATTMAIL/c=CA/dd.RFC-822=owner-sinister(a)ph.ed.ac.uk/ Date: 13/03/98 14:00 My bold and stupid claim that I was the only person in the world on both the B&S and Afghan Whigs mailing lists has been refuted by two people. I am mortified - what kind of freak listens to both these bands? Ohh...waitaminit... off for more amphetimines and coffee.... Todd P.S. - sinister chatters: Thanks for explaining POOF to me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/?mitchell/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cj1530a at xxx.edu Fri Mar 13 19:48:35 1998 From: cj1530a at xxx.edu (boy sets fire) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 14:48:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: you'll read it in a book tonight... References: <1.5.4.32.19980313122351.006ad018@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: <35098D92.9F97FF80@american.edu> one of the best books i have read recently has been "coin locker babies" by ryu murakami ... it is written very ridiculously, and includes such wonderful things as weird sea diseases that youngsters plan to take over the world with and imaginary ghost towns full of wolves that one of the boys adopts.. fuckin beautiful. :) boy sets fire vlass at interlog.com wrote: > hi :) > > i have the next week off from school and i want to go down to the library to > get some new books to read.. i was wondering if you sinisters have any good > recommendations for me.. im in the mood for a book with a belle and > sebastian type story - about love and obsessions and average events that are > not-so-average when looked at closely.. something similar to the beautiful, > beautiful "belle lettres" from the tangents ezine... or just send me any > sort of book list! > > thanks for the help.. > > teri > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sgold06 at xxx.edu Fri Mar 13 20:11:23 1998 From: sgold06 at xxx.edu (Steve Goldman) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 15:11:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: you'll read it in a book tonight... In-Reply-To: <35098D92.9F97FF80@american.edu> Message-ID: I also highly recommend HARUKI Murakami's work...very tripped-out detective novels with metaphysical and romantic bents to them... A great starter is "Dance Dance Dance" or "A Wild Sheep Chase", but I've heard that "Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World" is also pretty fabulous... My other fave authors to offer up are: Jonathan Carroll -- "Sleeping in Flame", "Outside the Dog Museum", "After Silence" Richard Bach -- ANYTHING Tom Robbins -- "Jitterbug Perfume", "Still Life with Woodpecker" Nicholson Baker -- "Vox", "The Fermata" (not exactly romantic, but hey, not everything in life is...) Enjoy! --Steven *************************************************************************** Steven Goldman * * Box 22688 * Fun-lover, pop freak, sometimes * Emory University * DJ, and aspiring actor/writer/director * Atlanta, GA 30322 * * (404) 251-8310 * "Faith manages." * sgold06 at emory.edu * --Delenn, "Babylon 5" * WWW: http://tswww.cc.emory.edu/~sgold06 * *************************************************************************** On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, boy sets fire wrote: > one of the best books i have read recently has been > "coin locker babies" by ryu murakami ... it is written > very ridiculously, and includes such wonderful things > as weird sea diseases that youngsters plan to take over > the world with and imaginary ghost towns full of wolves > that one of the boys adopts.. fuckin beautiful. :) > > boy sets fire > > vlass at interlog.com wrote: > > > hi :) > > > > i have the next week off from school and i want to go down to the library to > > get some new books to read.. i was wondering if you sinisters have any good > > recommendations for me.. im in the mood for a book with a belle and > > sebastian type story - about love and obsessions and average events that are > > not-so-average when looked at closely.. something similar to the beautiful, > > beautiful "belle lettres" from the tangents ezine... or just send me any > > sort of book list! > > > > thanks for the help.. > > > > teri > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > . 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Aren't we? > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From college at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 20:23:18 1998 From: college at xxx.com (TonyK) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 12:23:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: books and such Message-ID: <350995B6.5A9EA49E@aliasrecords.com> One of the best books I've ever read has to be A Prayer for Owen Meaney by John Irving. For some reason it strikes me as very Belle&Sebastian, there is a certain magic to it and a poetry that is enough to bring one to tears on occasion. It's a bit longish but well worth it. For something a might more disturbing (and consequently less B&S) try Geek Love by Katherine Dunne. Very strange story but a good read nonetheless. Bugs in Jars, TonyK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane Fri Mar 13 20:44:21 1998 From: nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane (nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 15:44:21 EST Subject: Sinister: No B&S at all - I stand corrected Message-ID: From: Faker , on 3/13/98 2:33 PM: My bold and stupid claim that I was the only person in the world on both the B&S and Afghan Whigs mailing lists has been refuted by two people. I am mortified - what kind of freak listens to both these bands? well on the chat yesterday someone from Belle and Sebastian did say they were a SLAYER fan and that they hated Nick Drake.......hmmm wonder who that could of been? Natalie ------------- Original Text From: Faker , on 3/13/98 2:33 PM: My bold and stupid claim that I was the only person in the world on both the B&S and Afghan Whigs mailing lists has been refuted by two people. I am mortified - what kind of freak listens to both these bands? Ohh...waitaminit... off for more amphetimines and coffee.... Todd P.S. - sinister chatters: Thanks for explaining POOF to me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 21:10:29 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:10:29 EST Subject: Sinister: chat moans - i'm sorry but....poo. Message-ID: In a message dated 3/13/98 6:18:22PM, you write: << belle and sebastian. the chat, what a fucking disqappointment. >> I'm afraid I can only agree with just about everything Sarah said. The IRC set-up is dysfunctional and the transcript is ludicrous. I took part in the aol conference chat with Kevin Shields and that worked wonderfully. hey-ho. Stephen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane Fri Mar 13 21:16:43 1998 From: nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane (nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 98 16:16:43 EST Subject: Sinister: books and such Message-ID: From: TonyK , on 3/13/98 3:23 PM: One of the best books I've ever read has to be A Prayer for Owen Meaney by John Irving. For some reason it strikes me as very Belle&Sebastian, there is a certain magic to it and a poetry that is enough to bring one to tears on occasion. It's a bit longish but well worth it. For something a might more disturbing (and consequently less B&S) try Geek Love by Katherine Dunne. Very strange story but a good read nonetheless. I have to say Geek Love is one of my favorite books of all time! I would also recommend The Wasp Factory by Ian Banks or Perfume by Patrick Suskind for those who like strange. Natalie ------------- Original Text From: TonyK , on 3/13/98 3:23 PM: One of the best books I've ever read has to be A Prayer for Owen Meaney by John Irving. For some reason it strikes me as very Belle&Sebastian, there is a certain magic to it and a poetry that is enough to bring one to tears on occasion. It's a bit longish but well worth it. For something a might more disturbing (and consequently less B&S) try Geek Love by Katherine Dunne. Very strange story but a good read nonetheless. Bugs in Jars, TonyK ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MWaggner at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 21:49:16 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 16:49:16 EST Subject: Sinister: books and such Message-ID: <90038715.3509a9db@aol.com> Oh, I can second the vote on "A Prayer For Owen Meany! " It is a wonderful wonderful book -- with that magical shimmer... Another couple of books I liked a lot recently were "The Book of Ruth" by Jane Hamilton. Can be very brutal and heartbreaking sometimes, but beautifully written. "The Rapture of Canaan" by Sheri Reynolds was also really good. Yeah, now I think, these are pretty B&S... kind of moments ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Sat Mar 14 00:28:46 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:28:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: chat moans - i'm sorry but....poo. References: Message-ID: <3509CF3E.CD2C4EDB@totalweb.co.uk> Honey wrote: > > > The few times the band answered a question, whoever asked it seemed to > > lost their voice in #jeepster and bythe time could type followup in > > #sinister - the plot had been lost again. > > Oops - sorry. All I can say is it was a horror to balance between > long delays as the band didn't seem to want to answer some questions > and just stayed silent instead of declining (a decent response to > some of the questions, not I thought to others), and a deluge of > questions and follow-ups all on top of each other which confused the > participants as they're new to this. It was very hard making sure > everyone had a decent say, but at the same time that everyone who > wanted had a go. Sorry if anyone felt shut out, it wasn't > intentional. I also spilt crisps all over the floor. fair point, but at most points i had between 8 and 12 questions queued for paul to try and organise. we did desperatly want to give more people time, but then we also wanted very much for everyone to ask a question if they wanted. we largely managed to make sure that nearly everyone got to as ktheir question, we had no luck though of guaranteeing that they would be answered. > > If we want any decent answers, i just don't think IRC is the way we're > > going to get them. one simple reason is that it would simply take too > > long to type. another fair point, but to assist you all in some way i've also put a version of the log on the web. the version i've done is marked up, it shows in bold all questions, answers and relevant text. meaning that you can get the gems of information without having to read all the dross (which there was a lot of). i know it wasn't the worlds best chat, but reading through the log there are answers to a lot of things we did want them to answer. they said tigermilk will be re-released, told us about a tour, and let us know how they write songs. so the question is, not what they put into it (although it could be asked of stuart david), but what the hell did you expect to get out of it? perception is very much the key to viewing the log, not all of it was written in disposable trashy language, some is very much highly quotable and in context. if you want to view the marked-up version of the log then the page is on my site (link below) or you can go direct to: http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/log120398.htm thanks david kitchen sarah did also say that she couldn't turn the chat into an interview, this could be true, but i think that the several paid writers and reviewers on this list would agree that it could very easily be turned into a critical and informative article of an IRC chat, with the bonus of having all the content belle and sebastian orientated. too hard? or would you just like to pretend they did an interview anyway and do as you said and put the words you wanted to hear into their mouths? - feel free to reply directly to me. -- ******************************************************************** Belle and Sebastian Fan Club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sat Mar 14 02:34:07 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:34:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: re:I need your help Message-ID: <199803140234.VAA14358@Vector.inexpress.net> >Date: Thu, 12 Mar 1998 15:25:54 +0000 >From: Neil Hargreaves <9607129h at xxx.uk> >Subject: Sinister: I need your help > >OK guys.... what should I do.... > >Last night (the 11th) I'm walking back from seeing Steve Coogan at >the Royal Concert Hall. It's not bad. Then this guy comes up to me. >he is Australian and smoking a menthol fag.... > >Here mate- he says- I've got this flatmate and she's seen you around >town around three times. And she's just chickened off down the road >OK? >Me: (kinda worried ina nice way) OK >Well what I'm going to do is give you her phone number and mayve you >can call her. Her names Natalie.... > >So I took the number. Now I *know* I would never forgive myself if i >didn't make the call. But how? When? >And what do I say do I arrange to meet? Where? And what if (gulp) we >meet and I really don't like her.... > >On the plus side the guy seemed really nice so she can't be that >bad.... > >This is the most Belle and Sebastian thing that has ever happened to >me.... And my love life really does need sorting out.... > >Yours, >(belatedly pornstarnammed) >Pipkin McMillan oh you sweet and delicate soul!!! yes call her and who cares what you say,just make sure you do call....cos one day I guarantee a crowd will part that you have been walking from... and you will see this lovely one,all freespirited and sexy and touseled and lovely on a bench,and yes right in front of you! But what's that...ahhh! alas there is someone else curled up under the lovely ones arm..jsut because you didn't...make...that....damn...call.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sat Mar 14 02:34:57 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 21:34:57 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: but when you smile ohhh how i feel so good Message-ID: <199803140234.VAA14381@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear lovelies, I just read some of the chat....aaaa Stuart David,he seems like he would bite! Oh well,first time hmmmmm... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh Portishead WAS SO GOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDD! it really was amazing... I want to be a dj when I grow up! The opening dj was so good and the big screen with all the trancey purple bubbles going by.. And Beth was so beautiful voice perfect and fragile..it looked like a strong gust of wind might blow her away,the crowd..for the first time I didn't get any bones broken! I could actually move...and move i did,oh Over was so good when that huge dark bit comes in I just wanted to slam myself across the room....AAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!Geoff ...those hands moving across the vinyl!!!!'to hold you,enfold you never enough render your heart to me *siiiiiigh* all mine you have to be....' and beth used my lighter to light cigarette and she said thankyou i didn't know what else to say so i'm just like 'beth you rock!' and she smiled...she really is sweet and shy..not this cold nasty person some people make her out to be.... there was a rather sour turn at the end of the night,but it had nothing to do with the band..grrrrrr....damn him.. (oh and the hipsters there!'avid art studs' of all kinds! Hair out to there,flares miles wide...eyeliner out to there,big glasses n fishnets..and there i was huddeled in my lil corduroy pants while all these glamazons swagger by...didn't exactly match them!) but i get some lovely photos we weren't allowed but i am short and silly(?) so security think i'm innocent so they search the OTHERS hee hee... AH! B&S dream... I was sitting in a theatre watching a documentary on Stuart Murdoch,he was very tall and it showed him in plaid shirts walking down beaches and skipping stones,I kept going "stuart stuart you're the only one who understands me" and people kept hushing me..anyways after that came the Dog On Wheels video which consisted of fast moving,awe inspiring shots of land (from above,like shot in a helicoptre) and great rivers except at the very end of the video it was just shots of lots of sad homeless starving looking puppies...as i walked out,this tall chin length blondish hair boy wearing silver rings and quite cuddly muddly stopped me to talk about B&S when suddenlt some girl appears and he starts kissing her and I feel quite uncomfortable so I run off and he's like 'Where you going!' and then I dunno..I'm walking along some desert like place with train tracks and I see my friends wave me over and I try and ignore her and then she says something but I take it as something insane cos I'm usually very mild-mannered cos I went crazy and started throwing rocks at her mother's head and they mad me get in the van with them and we are arguing and my friend said soemthing like 'FINE! GO BACK TO YOUR BELLE AND SEBASTIAN THEN!' so I jump out of the van,and magically I am somewhere else,and this guy (this other friend) is leaving somewhere and I'm like 'oh I'll walk you there' and for some reason my mom appear and she's like 'Oh! *wink* yes,I understand you can WALK with him' and she thinks she is helping me cos she thinks I want to get this boy alone and i'm like 'no it's not like that' and i start running and i'm back at those dusty traintracks and suddenly i realize i'm all alone... can i send actual money to jeepster (it would be in pounds!) or is it only cheques?my friend told me that if you are here and you send a cheque there there is a very high transaction cost or something? is this true? xoxoxo Genevieve '...should i feel a moment with you to softly whisper I crave nothing else so much..' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Landmine9 at xxx.com Sat Mar 14 05:44:23 1998 From: Landmine9 at xxx.com (Landmine 9) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 00:44:23 EST Subject: Sinister: Country Message-ID: <24d12586.350a1939@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-13 11:27:40 EST, you write: << There is nothing interesting about the music, lives or personal mores of the like of George Jones, Hank Williams, Willie Nelson. Ernest Tubb, Loretta Lynn, Patsy Cline, Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Jerry Jeff Walker, Townes Van Zandt, Dolly Parton, Iris DeMent, Junior Brown, Alison Kraus, David Munyon, Richard Buckner and loads of other n'er do owts. >> turt is bang on here. you can find records by these people most of the time for really cheap, and if you'll listen, they will change you. as far as new stuff, the saddest songs I've heard in a while are being done by a "band" called Songs:Ohia. Songs and emotions that sound like they are from a long time ago. acoustic guitar, brush drums sometimes, sax occasionally, heartbreaking vocals. they have a couple of records on Secretly Canadian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . 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Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Sat Mar 14 09:34:19 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 98 09:34:19 GMT Subject: Sinister: Anagrams and Problems Message-ID: <980314093419.n0009944.tormentor@mail.clara.net> First up, the answers to those anagrams:- 1) hot rum custard = Stuart Murdoch 2) Bogart germ tract = Robert McTaggart 3) hot senses erupt = Stephen Trousse 4) lethal lip cum = Honey 5) avid art stud = Stuart David 6) a shot Ukraine = Katrina House 7) I mock coke = Mick Cooke 8) ample bible cellos = Isobel Campbell And finally I have enough problems for my slot (well, no I don't so I *have* made some up) Dear Aunty, I want to buy the soundtrack to Jackie Brown but I want to give the impression that I've always been into that kind of music, and anyone who hasn't is an arsehole. What should I do? Bobby Chariot Dear Bobby, It seems from your letter, that you're just trying to buy into 'cool' and perhaps not interested in the music at all. Trying to bluff being 'into' something aint easy as you'll soon find yourself in deep water with a real fan and end up looking like a twat. It is distinctly better to achieve credibility, not by being into something but OVER it. When the subject of early 70's black soul is brought up in conversation, simply apply any of the following phrases to attain instant coolness: 'Used to play that stuff all the time. Liked it at first but take it from me, after a while you get bored of it.' 'Sold all those records years ago and exchanged them for something decent.' 'Oh god , not YOU as well, seems the whole worlds suddenly into soft soul. I'm glad I'm over that phase.' Alternatively Bobby, don't be such a sap. Trying to keep up with the trends at your age is just laughable. Give it up. Susannah, i have a problem. i talk too much shite Sarah. Sarah, I can't say I haven't noticed, but don't we all? As long as you don't start typing 'peace man' at the end of your posts you'll be alright. Dear Aunty, I find Keith Watson devillishly attractive and I wish to "make love" to him. The trouble is, I don't know whether he is gay, bisexual, homosexual or "straight". How can I find out without resorting to idle speculation? Frustrated, Brighton. Right. If you don't want to mess about with the softly softly approach to this you've just got to get right on in there I'm afraid. Suggest a late night walk in Kelvingrove Park to 'see the stars' and then take him up the arse. He'll see stars all right. Sorted. Dear Aunty, I am an arrogant miserable wanker and whats more, I relish it. Wheres the problem with that? Anon, Glasgow. Well, there's nothing inherently *wrong* with that except like attracts like and anyone who isn't a wanker themselves will be quickly repelled. So unless you wish to spend your life in social isolation, which come to think of it is maybe the best thing for you, you've got to sharpen up your image. Practice by repeating a hundred times 'I want to have your babies'. Thats all for now. xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Fri Mar 13 19:58:15 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Fri, 13 Mar 1998 19:58:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: one for the football fans out there Message-ID: <35098FD7.6850@seahouses.u-net.com> Here is something I received earlier... I laughed and laughed and laughed...sorry to any Spurs supporters! (not really, we're playing Spurs tomorrow) "From: Richard Tan Date: 13/03/98 15:55:53 Subject: Christian Gross spotted I've just been down the Building Society at lunch to draw some cash out of the old savings account. While I was queuing, you'll never guess who walked in. Yes, Christian Gross. While he was queuing he was overcome, perhaps by heat, and he fainted. A couple of people rushed up to him, and using some cold water were able to bring him round within a couple of minutes. As he came to, he said, groggily, 'Where am I????' 'The Nationwide' said one of the people who revived him. 'Fuckin' hell', said Gross, 'Is it August already'" JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Mar 14 11:29:39 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 11:29:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: why dont' B&S have soundbite lyrics that you can quote? Message-ID: <0Ux46CAjomC1EwaF@elsato97.demon.co.uk> howdy.... ok, so sorry for abusing the list in this oh-so-gratituos way - but LAUREL/PYTHIA what the hell is your email address? i tried to emails the Pythia Rap to you four times last night and got a poor ickle failed mail each time! oh so not fair! and i've just spoken to someone to someone i met at the mansun gig who is on guest list to see Spiritualized on Monday. And its not fair as I REALLY want to go!!! But its in bradford, and I am in preston. Apparently the guest list isn't full up yet, but sadly theres no way i could get to Bradford... :o_ _ _(((((( sad star. oh and i'm listening to laydeez and gentlefolks now. oh the pain. oh the sadness. i may weep. then again, this really lovely lad i know has jst bought Ladies and Gentlemen...only thing is...he doesn't know i exist except for a few minutes and in those minutes he probably wishes that i didn't....well, he's scum anyway, he`s a male....but why does he have to be sweet and senstive? but he`s such a moody get as well....ah fuck him is what i say. anyway - i must go now as i am halfway through cleaning the bathroom. i wish i was lying. the high point of my saturday has already gone!!! that would have been watching Robbie Williams on live and kicking. Robbie is funny, Mark is cute, Gary is a twat, and Howard and Jason are doing Simon and Garfunkel covers in Newport-pagnell (a place which verily does define the word ROCK! i think, i have unfortunately never been there). Dearie me. *thinks* must justify this post by mentioning B&S somehow.... ok then. can i just point out i have a digest waiting which won't come through??? annoying gubbins indeed. does stuart david read these? i wonder, well he may gather that i am not his biggest fan apres all this time. i ean, i still love B&S and Stu is probably nicer all in all, but anyway, who cares what i think?? is my opinion relevant to fuck all? no. i really do hate living here by the way, i am sure there are mmore enjoyable places. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! "Gosh, life is too much..." --Donovan http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Axidavid at xxx.com Sat Mar 14 12:45:48 1998 From: Axidavid at xxx.com (David Leloup) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:45:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I'm a new member , Fox in the snow subject Message-ID: <001101bd4f47$1fe02ee0$dc4ae8c3@default> Hi everybody I'm new to this list and just want to introduce myself to all list members My name is david and i'm from France. My fave bands/artists are 'The Posies', Teenage Fanclub, Neil Young, Nick Drake (I'm lististening to Radiohead, supergrass, cardigans and some Trip Hop stuff too) What a big surprise when i first listen to 'when ... sinister' The voice is so sensitive, it seems so close to you The guitar and other instrument are so fine It makes me almost cry ... My first question : Can someone tell me what the song 'fox in the snow' is about specially the last sentences : it only happens once a year it only happens once a lifetime making most of it (I love this song) Hoping Belle and Sebastian will becoming famous in France and anywhere else .. David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From sburon at xxx.fr Sat Mar 14 18:57:20 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (stéphane buron) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:57:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: no B&S content (just a bit, in fact) Message-ID: <350AD30D.1F79@club-internet.fr> Lucy wrote : > Frente also did Bizarre Love Triangle I believe I am right in saying. First, you have the most beautiful name in the world (don't repeat this, jon, please...) And you're right, it's one of the best covers of this song (i mean, the BLT sung by Frente, not your name). The cover of True Faith by the Boo Radleys is a bit noisy (!!!), but not bad neither. Then, On Fri, 13 Mar 1998 vlass at interlog.com wrote: > i have the next week off from school and i want to go down to the library to > get some new books to read.. i was wondering if you sinisters have any good > recommendations for me.. im in the mood for a book with a belle and > sebastian type story - about love and obsessions and average events that are > not-so-average when looked at closely.. something similar to the beautiful, > beautiful "belle lettres" from the tangents ezine... or just send me any > sort of book list! Maybe you could go and have a look at the archives on Paul's site (i think) : anyway, i could advise The House of Sleep, by Jonathan Coe, Whit by Iain Banks, and the biography of Nick Drake. These books are the best and the most "Belle&Sebastianesque" i've read in the last few months... And all of them were advised by listees (except one, but it was almost the same, thanks jon!!!) And about this chat stuff, i couldn't participate and dont know whether it was fast/slow/disappointing for the chatters (is it the word?), but reading the text after the chat was very funny. I understood nothing but at least had a good laugh!!! Stéphane ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From PKHINTZ at xxx.com Sat Mar 14 18:37:40 1998 From: PKHINTZ at xxx.com (PKHINTZ) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:37:40 EST Subject: Sinister: Get a tiger on your shoulder Message-ID: <31a1a0ae.350ace77@aol.com> Yesterday morning I gave in--to the subversive cuteness of those Beanie Babies stuffed animals. You can hold one of their soft, floppy bodies in the palm of your hand, but the animals scream, "Buy, buy, buy!" in a cacophonous chorus from the shelves of stores. So, I bought; I bought a tiger. I named him Stuart David, in honour of, um, Stuart David. My Stuart D. sits on my shoulder and is being trained to speak. (The cats do keep me company in the castle, but do not hold conversations well). His first words were said in the spirit of his namesake: "Stuffed animals are for poofs." I was so delighted to hear him speak I ignored his sentiment. In a week or two I will give him a pen, for him to write me my own Ink Polaroids; my Stuart is not allowed to have a "special box". Stuart D. is now sitting on the computer monitor, waiting to pounce upon me if I type anything without the proper amount of irony, sarcasm, and general ill humour. "Unmitigated adoration is for poofs," my Stuart D. told me. (I am able to write this now because he is taking a wee nap.) Saturday morning. I opened the window blinds to see the heavens falling from the sky, in the guise of snowflakes, covering the ugliness and despair of the working week I have just left behind me. I laid in bed, sipping tea, watching the snow descend so delicately. I thought of living moments. Myself observing the snow. The quickly pulsing beat at the end of "You Made Me Forget My Dreams". The mighty yelp before the instruments race towards the ending of the radio session of "Lazy Line Painter Jane". The boom of the drums during the chorus of "Photo Jenny". Oh, and so much more. Life is not necessarily meant to be epic, in the grand sense of the word, but perhaps epic, in the beauty of every day. My Stuart D. once said, "Beauty is for poofs". Ah, Stuart D., you have a lot to learn. Living and loving Matthew ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Sat Mar 14 19:06:31 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:06:31 +0000 Subject: Sinister: spoke too soon Message-ID: <350AD537.25ED@seahouses.u-net.com> Wankity wank. 3-3 bloody SPurs eh can't trust them to LOSE any more still, who the fuck are Man United eh JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ButchDone at xxx.com Sat Mar 14 19:32:17 1998 From: ButchDone at xxx.com (ButchDone) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:32:17 EST Subject: Sinister: Arse Covers. Message-ID: <89bf2de2.350adb44@aol.com> Lucy Wrote ..... >Frente also did Bizarre Love Triangle I believe I am right in saying. >Also Paul Young did JD's Love Will Tear Us Apart........TWAT. (Slightly off the >beaten-track but well....poo it's Friday!) Loads of people have covered LWTUA, but I can only remember a couple other than Paul Young, Swans did 2 versions of it and errr .... PJ Proby did a version as well, if I remember rightly it was produced by Peter Hook. Gary ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From vegasbaby at xxx.com Sat Mar 14 21:33:51 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 13:33:51 PST Subject: Sinister: A long and silly post from the new girl Message-ID: <19980314213351.23848.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello to all of you. I just joined the list and figured I'd get the obligatory "Hello my name is.." first post out of the way. But guess what? I'm not going to ask for Tigermilk because I was smart and read the FAQ. My name is Courtney and I go to USC film school in Los Angeles, but I am originally from Portland, Oregon (the land of Elliot Smith, you know). I first heard of Belle and Sebastian on the Ben Folds Five mailing list. Apparently Ben is a big fan and has covered Fox in the Snow and Stars of Track and Field in concert. Someone made me a mix tape with some stuff from IYFS and I was hooked. Actually Ben Folds Five were in town a couple weeks back to do the talk show circuit (and play the beautiful yet sadly overplayed Brick for the billionth time) and a friend and I went to see them at the Keenen Ivory Wayans show and she brought Ben Lazy Line Painter Jane. He was SO excited. It was cute. Other than B&S and BFF, I like Squirrel Nut Zippers, Radiohead, Cake, Weezer, Morphine, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Frank Sinatra, Elvis Costello, Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, Royal Crown Revue and a whole mess of other stuff. I am big into swing and big band too and have a radio show here at the campus station. I mostly play swing and stuff, but when you have 4 hours to fill late at night you start to get nutty. Last week I played the whole second half of IYFS. But now I have started to ramble. And if you've read this far, well thanks. I'm sure you'll be hearing more out of me in the months to come. ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "Help! I'm in a nut shell!" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mlongaph at xxx.net Sun Mar 15 01:05:00 1998 From: mlongaph at xxx.net (mike longaphie) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 17:05:00 -0800 Subject: Sinister: The strangest book ever!! Message-ID: <350B293C.208B@echo-on.net> It would have to be(in my superior opinion) "Foe" by J.M. Coetzee. Just a crazy, crazy book about, well, tons of things. And for regular reading basically anything by Salinger and Nancy Mitford(specifically the trio that are inter-related). The worst: Maybe "A Glass of Blessings" by Barbara Pym. An "unsuitable", depressing kind of book. mike ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . We're all happy bunnies humming happy bunny tunes. Aren't we? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From snyderd at xxx.edu Sat Mar 14 23:39:35 1998 From: snyderd at xxx.edu (Dave Snyder) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 18:39:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: lyric mishearings Message-ID: Hey, Has anyone misheard the line from "She's Losing It" as: Inch for inch and pound for pound, Who need boys when there's leeks around? Just curious. I almost wish that was the actual lyric.. ************************************************************************** *Dave Snyder******905 Church St. #3 Ann Arbor MI 48104******(313)741-9708* **************snyderd at umich.edu**http://www.umich.edu/~snyderd************ ....didn't i say feelings were the last things to make themselves felt?... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From horst at aptness.com.br Sun Mar 15 00:36:52 1998 From: horst at aptness.com.br (João Henrique Horst) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:36:52 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Brazilian B&S fans , unite/Sultraness of Swing. Message-ID: <199803150036.VAA03804@dalila.aptness.com.br> Hi there, brasileiros in the B&S list. What would be the special reason for finding so many of our ilk in the list ? Actually, how many are we ? Well, never mind, we came in peace. Get in touch. I'll be around, watching from afar. Find me. Are you still there ? Haven't trashed many e-mails from you these last days. Well, peace also to the Sultraness of Swing, the one who knows the guys that rule. Coltrane must be on your list as well, I suppose. Who else ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From d.kitchen at xxx.net Sun Mar 15 01:06:21 1998 From: d.kitchen at xxx.net (David & Katrina) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 01:06:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT FAN CLUB INFORMATION Message-ID: <350B298D.D9654913@virgin.net> we've had some major e-mail and file retrieval problems recently. all mail that was sent to the mailbox: bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk did not reach us. the information has been 'lost' on totalweb's server. we estimate that this has been happening for the past five weeks, as such, if you have mailed us an enquiry, sent an order via e-mail or using the merchandise form, please re-submit the information to us. all the scripts and references to our mailbox have now been changed to reflect the permanently working private mailbox. so: d.kitchen at virgin.net SUPERCEDES bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk please do NOT use the bluesoda mail address as it is unlikely to reach us, whereas the d.kitchen address is very fast and highly accountable. thank you, and accept our apologies for any inconvenience that this has caused over the past few weeks. david kitchen belle and sebastian fan club belle and sebastian fan club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction, vote http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:d.kitchen at virgin.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gleng at xxx.com Sat Mar 14 06:17:34 1998 From: gleng at xxx.com (gordon glen) Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 14:17:34 +0800 Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <350A20FE.41DE8214@hkstar.com> Good Bok recommendations: Tibor Fischer -" The Thought Gang" is an excellent book also anything by Loius de Bernieres ( I think that's how you spell it). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Sun Mar 15 14:51:58 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:51:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Urusei Yatsura ticket Message-ID: Due to the fact that most of my indie-kid chums have got exams this week, I have a spare ticket for the NME freebie Urusei Yatsura gig at the Virgin Megastore in Edinburgh on Wednesday night. If anyone fancies coming along and seeing Glasgow's finest lo-fi rockers perform in an atmosphere-free[1] environment, give me an e-mail. Rod. [1] At least, I don't /think/ they have any Russ Abbott CDs... Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | She's looking real drab, just out of rehab. | I'm talking football, she's talking AbFab. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Sun Mar 15 15:39:28 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:39:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Urusei Yatsura ticket References: Message-ID: <350BF630.6D4E@seahouses.u-net.com> Rod Begbie wrote: > > Due to the fact that most of my indie-kid chums have got exams this week, > I have a spare ticket for the NME freebie Urusei Yatsura gig at the Virgin > Megastore in Edinburgh on Wednesday night. If anyone fancies coming along > and seeing Glasgow's finest lo-fi rockers perform in an atmosphere-free[1] > environment, give me an e-mail. > > Rod. So come on then, who's up for it? Should be a good night out as Rod Begbie loves Urusei Yatsura 73% apparently.. JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Sun Mar 15 15:44:46 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:44:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S gig stuff etc. In-Reply-To: <35094A07.62148966@virgin.net> Message-ID: On Fri, 13 Mar 1998, Jeepster Recordings Ltd wrote: > Funny you should mention this one actually ... anyone who was in on > yesterday's chat would have heard the band members talking about the > gigs they are planning to do late summer/autumn. over August, September > and October Belle and Sebastian plan to play dates in England, Wales, > Ireland, Northern Europe and along the East Coast of the US. Get them to play in Boston, sometime after August 31st -- I've just found out that I've got a job there! Oh, and Edinburgh before then would be nice, too. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | In the shopping mall of the mind, | He's always in the toy department. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Sun Mar 15 23:57:55 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 15:57:55 -0800 Subject: Sinister: fill me in Message-ID: <350C6B03.5B70@earthlink.net> alright then. so who wants to fill me in on the new yatsura album? what it's called. when it's released. etc. etc. etc. thanks. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Sun Mar 15 19:18:34 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 19:18:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: fill me in In-Reply-To: <350C6B03.5B70@earthlink.net> Message-ID: On Sun, 15 Mar 1998, bradford wrote: > alright then. > so who wants to fill me in on the new yatsura album? what it's called. > when it's released. etc. etc. etc. It's called "Slain by Urusei Yatsura" (or just plain Slain by Yatsura if you're outside the UK) and was released here a couple weeks back on the new Warners/Che hybrid "Coalition". There's some info on Che's website at http://www.64slicesamericancheese.com/yatsura And it's totally kick-ass. (Yay! New 'Delgados' single out tomorrow, too. 'tis truly a totally lo-fi-tastic time of year.) Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | If you're happy and you know it, clap your hands. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From get_nice at xxx.com Sun Mar 15 20:18:20 1998 From: get_nice at xxx.com (chris berry) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:18:20 PST Subject: Sinister: hey...i like moz too! Message-ID: <19980315201821.28696.qmail@hotmail.com> hello (again) ive been away for a week or so on my spring break....i went to new orleans and to my hometown, pensacola, fl. i am a little behind on all the latest and greatest b+s talk. id just like to say that i too love morrissey, even though his latest album was a bit of a bore. ive loved the smiths for quite a while as well....i was listening to "the world wont listen" this morning. everyone should like the smiths everyone should like b+s too! a lot of people, when im talking about b+s, ask if im refering to the disney charcters as well i wish i could attend that picnic too! i love picnics i just got my first b+s "single" on vinyl format this past week....i have had them all on cd format for a while the 3..6..9 cover looks great 12x12...big and shiny time to go to a meeting.... love, chris ps-sensitive male does not equal gay pps-ok......i, too, am a porn star.......named king crimson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From gayj at xxx.edu Sun Mar 15 20:53:48 1998 From: gayj at xxx.edu (Pat Gay) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:53:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Stereolab In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > I thinnk that anyone who could come up with the idea of an international > colouring contest has to be acknowledged as a genius. Stereolab no come up with idea. Lucia Pamela come up with idea. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Sun Mar 15 23:53:10 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 18:53:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: sunday,monday we lie in bed but it's not easy Message-ID: <199803152353.SAA10576@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear sweet ones, I just adore the feeling of falling in love with something for a second time... there is a mountainous pile of junk in my room that is to be cleaned (or more truthfully my ROOM is a mountanious pile of junk) and i have this very important orale to be doing (due tomorrow,naturally)....but i just can't bring myself to working right now... (hee..hee,I remember on those 'weakness and strengths' letters we used to have to write in english,i would always write 'i will stop procrastinating' for how to improve my weaknesses..and the teacher, she always wrote the same thing 'stop hiding behind your hair!' oh well....here i am still procrastinating (and the hair still messy) It is cold and I've been alone all day but right now the sky is such a beautiful lavender colour and I'm listening to this lovely Geneva song 'Riverwatching' "thinking of a beautiful boy,eyes reflecting in the moonlight the river is so clam staying with him throught the night" oh how truuuue! I just CAN'T work..! Oh...'asda town' is on now!!!making me fall in love with Brett Anderson and his voice all over again..you know 'the wild ones' video is so beautiful it makes me cry?! Pathetic! (And I usually don't cry at tv,last time was the lion king....) oh phhooey on all that independant woman stuff.. men are beautiful and wonderful and i love them... And this lovely purple sky moment would be all the lovlier with someone... something is bothering me,Stuart Murdoch and his nimble fingers! How can he play so well..i try..oh i try!actually..good moment,i was playing 'dog on wheels' and my dad actually asked me what i was playing..and then he said it wasn't bad...may sound like nothing much..but this is a compliment from my father instead of 'turn that brain-rotting poison off!' etc etc...how wonderful it would be to be really good and to play to people all round the world.. *sigh* frozen (it's damn cold in here) kisses, xoxoGenevieve "..the moment is long gone but i can still see your face to think about you it hurts and i know i have to say take me away from here,take me away from you i'm still in love with you what do you expect me to do?..." ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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A few years later, I've seen the band twice, collected hard-to-find EPs and singles, acquired some memorbilia, but, for some reason, the title of that song still irks me. -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Mon Mar 16 10:34:32 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:34:32 -0800 Subject: Sinister: breakfast Message-ID: <350D0038.399A@earthlink.net> hey. i really truly do not mean to offend genevieve (blink at inexpress.net), and i don't think i will...i just want to know who else agrees with me. not knowing what she looks like, but reading her posts.......everytime i'm reading something she wrote i picture her looking like ally sheedy's character in the breakfast club (allison) typing away furiously and daydreaming and blowing mousy hair out of her eyes. so, genevieve, do you look like ally sheedy in the breakfast club? and i picture honeypaul looks like hugh grant. here's others: (i can't be bothered to take the time and go round and look at the actual pictures of people on paul's page, so this is what i live with) tag = jonathan silverman (from weekend at bernie's) sarah I'M GOING NOW BYEEEEE!!! = baby spice keith watson = the red headed guy from "hardbodies" there's more.....i'm just tired of typing. and in case you're wanting to put a picture to my face try one of the following...... conan o'brien bea arthur ratso off of midnight cowboy the nerd guy from those old van halen videos (waldo) marmaduke the giant dog with the giant heart major bedhead off of the big comfy couch whatever works for you. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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You might also want to try Tarnation for something a little bit less mature and more Kitty Wells. Incidentally, The Nashville independent record store owned by the wife of the guy from Lambchop just went out of business last month. It also doubled as a club. She never carried any Belle and Sebastian, so it's just as well. Rumor had it that she wasn't much into music anyway! ----------------- "Terri Binion/Bottom Line; Thursday, March 26 According to recent trend articles, hipsters can now guiltlessly enjoy Americana/roots music through its resurgence as Alterna-Country and other such nouveau genres that repackage the same sounds in snarling lyrics. It�s hard to say whether Florida-based Terri Binion would be enraged or amused by this information. Nearing 40, Binion has been kicking up her beautiful dust bowl dramas live for 20 years. Think of the feathery and unabashedly pretty vocals of Alison Krauss joined with the winking road-weary charm of Nanci Griffith. Binion�s recent 9-song debut CD Leavin� This Town (Daemon) is more country- flavored than folky, but the songwriter�s thoughtful tales of wee-hour wheel clutching and pickup truck Romeos will likely entice fans of both. Filled with a pervading melancholy, the release was produced by drummer Liberty DeVitto of Billy Joel band notoriety. Binion�s quaint acoustics are lightly accented by accordion, pedal steel, and mandolin, leaving chuckle-worthy musings such as, "I did a little rain dance in the hopes of true romance," on the pure country of "Abilene" to work their simple elegance unencumbered. If you are predisposed toward this type of stuff Binion will turn you into a silly mess; if you aren�t, it may remedy your obstinacy. Since Binion�s power is in her drawling, honest prose, Bottom Line should provide the perfect acoustic backdrop for her CD�s unadorned tales�that is unless that small-but-ubiquitous beer crowd arrives to swill in its usual blaring manner.�Karen Iris Tucker ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Mar 16 09:43:22 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:43:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Beta Band Message-ID: <01bd50bf$f57345f0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Saw the Beta Band at La Belle Angele on Saturday night and they were absolutely excellent, totally brilliant and I'd recommend anyone who's even slightly interested to go and see them if they're on nearby. Miles better than their records - which are not bad by any means, they kicked total ass with the most incredible rhythm section I've ever seen. We thought they'd be a total shambles, but they were ace. The crowd was really up for it too, which is kind of odd for Edinburgh with the bloke meekly saying "Have you all come to see us?" (cause there's a club on later), so I guess they can't have had that great a reception in other places. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Mar 16 10:05:48 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:05:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Capital Rechargeables Message-ID: <01BD50C5.37FF4EA0@pc07628> >Katrina Bloody Spoilsport wrote : >Well, yes maybe some people will go, but not to see Belle and >Sebastian. Even though the band were invited to play, they have >declined the invitation. I'm sorry to everyone who was planning to go >and see B&S there. Arse. I haven't been on holiday in ten years. I've spent the whole weekend getting excited about the possibility and now a good old fashioned Monday morning kick in the teeth. I think Paul should extradite the two people who mailed this information to the list and force them to serve 2 months hard labour on the Morrisey list. >Keith Watson wrote : >I'm all for a few more comedy laws like that to be passed. Perhaps if >you don't pay your council tax they could knock your house down - just as >well the poll tax doesn't exist any more otherwise they'd have to employ >snipers to take out citizens. Presumably Keith if we are to apply this to all taxes then those who don't pay inheritance tax will have their loved-ones exhumed ??? mmmmm....smelly. >Stiphane Buron wrote : >Lucy wrote : >Frente also did Bizarre Love Triangle I believe I am right in saying. >First, you have the most beautiful name in the world. MMMMMMMMMMM......Ta very much luv. Noones ever said that to me before. Perhaps that's because I don't usually tell people about my porn career?? Lastly, went to see Montrose Av. and Young Offenders at the Cav on Saturday....Arse. I wasn't familialialiar, and I don't think I'll be making the effort again. I couldn't believe it, Young Offenders sounded like any number of early nineties indieschmindie rock groups rolled into one. Stirling Albion Crescent weren't half-bad and I even found myself dancing at one point, but why the fuss?? Nout special. Farmer Barley-Mow. ******************************************************************** "Yes there is a Santa Claus, and anyone who blasphemes against Santa or any of his helpers shall DIE!!" Jimmy Tarbuck. ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Mar 16 10:48:34 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:48:34 +0100 Subject: Sinister: start the week with bobby chariot Message-ID: <01bd50c9$11a1b1e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> How yer diddlin'? We've all had a whole bunch of fun voting for our favourite B&S songs on the Fanclub site. How about letting us vote for our favourite member of the group? I think Sarah would probably win at the moment. Oh bloody sod yer then. Bobby ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From d.kitchen at xxx.net Mon Mar 16 11:51:51 1998 From: d.kitchen at xxx.net (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:51:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: start the week with bobby chariot References: <01bd50c9$11a1b1e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <350D1257.988A8E57@virgin.net> PJMiller wrote: > > How yer diddlin'? > > We've all had a whole bunch of fun voting for our favourite B&S songs on the > Fanclub site. How about letting us vote for our favourite member of the > group? I think Sarah would probably win at the moment. > > Oh bloody sod yer then. > > Bobby i can easily do this, but won't the band take it to heart? i'd hate to be the reason that they break up after in-squabbling about who's better than who. :) david -- ****************************************************************** belle and sebastian fan club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction, vote http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:d.kitchen at virgin.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Mon Mar 16 12:36:05 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Jeepster Recordings Ltd) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 12:36:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: chat moans - i'm sorry but....poo. References: Message-ID: <350D1CB5.B3BDCD4@virgin.net> Honey wrote: > > And the time was awkward, 2pm.....afternoon for the meeja i can > > understand, but were there actually any REAL meeja people there? > It's not obvious but I doubt it - maybe Katrina knows. But the > timeslot was also for the *band* who said they couldn't get into the > office later on. They were washing their hair. i don't really know .. i know that we had advertising on nme.com and select on-line, so maybe a couple of journos came from there? i promise that if i get any comments or "articles" from the press sompany, that i'll post them to the list. i know the time wasn't the most ideal, but hey, the band turned up and they answered most of the questions ... i echo david's sentiment of "what did you expect to get out of it?" ... We've all learnt from experience and if we do another chat, i know that things will be slightly more organised and people (the fans and the band) will know how to behave as they will know what is expected of them. > P.S. Quick thankyou to all the ops though and david and katrina who > were stars. Well, i think the biggest thank you must go the Paul for being the biggest star and pretty much organising the whole thing. We love you Honey, we do! And thanks to everyone who participated .. it WAS fun! Cheers, Katrina. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From S.F.Gordon at xxx.uk Mon Mar 16 11:56:21 1998 From: S.F.Gordon at xxx.uk (Gordon SF) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:56:21 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The Beta Band In-Reply-To: <01bd50bf$f57345f0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> Message-ID: Yeah, the beta band are cool... I saw them in Manchester on Friday and I thought they were real cool. I hadn't listened to there shit before, my girlfriend got the ticket for me, but I thought it was most wonderful! They had good backdrops and stuff that was reminisant of early Pink Floyd shows... I also saw spiritualised the next night and they were wonderful too, only, because the songs are so deep, then if someone brushes past you at the concert it can ruin the rest of the song.. Anyhow I'm leaving this mailing list as you're all far too keen and have too much to say, I'm at work anyway and haven't time to read it all. Peace be upon you all. On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Keith Watson wrote: > Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 09:43:22 -0000 > From: Keith Watson > To: Sinister List > Subject: Sinister: The Beta Band > > Saw the Beta Band at La Belle Angele on Saturday night and they were > absolutely excellent, totally brilliant and I'd recommend anyone who's even > slightly interested to go and see them if they're on nearby. Miles better > than their records - which are not bad by any means, they kicked total ass > with the most incredible rhythm section I've ever seen. We thought they'd be > a total shambles, but they were ace. The crowd was really up for it too, > which is kind of odd for Edinburgh with the bloke meekly saying "Have you > all come to see us?" (cause there's a club on later), so I guess they can't > have had that great a reception in other places. > > Cheers, > Keith. > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bullis at xxx.net Mon Mar 16 16:33:43 1998 From: bullis at xxx.net (Faker) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:33:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: mayber B&S related - BMX Bandits Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980316113343.007b4100@pop.avana.net> hello, I need some input. There has been much discussion about the BMX Bandits in the recent past (perhaps someone from B&S has some connection?). So my local used cd barn has this BMX Bandits cd, but my conscience forbids me from buying things I have no knowledge of. What are they like? Is this a worthwhile purchase? thanks, Todd ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M9523138 at xxx.UK Mon Mar 16 14:21:10 1998 From: M9523138 at xxx.UK (Eimeir Tereasa McCartan) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:21:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: get pissed destroy Message-ID: Im in a pissy mood today and my latest messsages are boring me senseless,sometimes i wish for some racist homophobic lunatic to wander on to sinister and terrorise the rather PC hippiesh attitudes prevalent here.Im sick of banality and i think in keeping with belle's punk rock diy ethic we should have a national anarchy day on the 12 april nihilism is natural ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M9523138 at xxx.UK Mon Mar 16 14:36:44 1998 From: M9523138 at xxx.UK (Eimeir Tereasa McCartan) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:36:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: get pissed destroy Message-ID: When i was reading my messages today i really yearned for some racist homophobic lunatic to stumble onto sinister and really shake people up.There is undoubtedly intelligence out there in sinister land but i think the dreaded curse of political correctness and hippiesque remarks are the order of the day.Lets all be in tune with belle's punk rock diy ethic and spread a little nihilism around.......make your true feelings known about things and lets liven up things around here............. a boy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From paiku at xxx.com Mon Mar 16 15:02:21 1998 From: paiku at xxx.com (punch drunk) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 07:02:21 PST Subject: Sinister: get pissed destroy Message-ID: <19980316150221.11123.qmail@hotmail.com> i'm all for that eh, but April 12th is no good. Radiohead is playing that day and it just doesn't fit nicely into my schedule. But then again if you have to plan a national anarchy day around people's schedules it's just not fun anymore. Just not the 12th, you won't ruin my day, darn you! uhm, anyway... ~sarah~ > Im in a pissy mood today and my latest messsages are boring me >senseless,sometimes i wish for some racist homophobic lunatic >to wander on to sinister and terrorise the rather PC hippiesh >attitudes prevalent here.Im sick of banality and i think in >keeping with belle's punk rock diy ethic we should have a >national anarchy day on the 12 april > nihilism is natural ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Mon Mar 16 14:27:27 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:27:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: mayber B&S related - BMX Bandits Message-ID: <01bd50e7$a566b100$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >hello, > >I need some input. There has been much discussion about the BMX Bandits in >the recent past (perhaps someone from B&S has some connection?). So my >local used cd barn has this BMX Bandits cd, but my conscience forbids me >from buying things I have no knowledge of. What are they like? Is this a >worthwhile purchase? > >thanks, > >Todd There is a connection here in that they did go on the radio with Duglas once for an interview. I'm sure there'll be some people who'll disagree with me, but in my opinion the BMX bandits are a complete load of shite - I wouldn't be paid to listen to their records never mind actually hand over money to buy one. Hard to describe what they're like... really weak, neutered pop songs? Something like that. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From timminsc at xxx.ie Mon Mar 16 15:57:07 1998 From: timminsc at xxx.ie (Claire Timmins) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 15:57:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Homeward bound Message-ID: Yippee. I am returning to Glasgow on Wednesday for a lovely week long holiday. But what I was wondering was if anyone was going to the Egg this weekend as I may well be there???? Claire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From d.kitchen at xxx.net Mon Mar 16 16:06:42 1998 From: d.kitchen at xxx.net (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:06:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: get pissed destroy References: <19980316150221.11123.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <350D4E12.BB846B56@virgin.net> punch drunk wrote: > > i'm all for that eh, but April 12th is no good. Radiohead is playing > that day and it just doesn't fit nicely into my schedule. But then > again if you have to plan a national anarchy day around people's > schedules it's just not fun anymore. Just not the 12th, you won't ruin > my day, darn you! > uhm, anyway... > ~sarah~ > > > Im in a pissy mood today and my latest messsages are boring me > >senseless,sometimes i wish for some racist homophobic lunatic > >to wander on to sinister and terrorise the rather PC hippiesh > >attitudes prevalent here.Im sick of banality and i think in > >keeping with belle's punk rock diy ethic we should have a > >national anarchy day on the 12 april > > nihilism is natural i'll get my coat . . . there was me thinking that this was a belle and sebastian list, but no, i seem to be mistaken. somewhere along the line we've evolved into a manics list, circa 'new art riot'. and really, i'd rather not test the water and become riotous for a day, or even a year. isn't it smacking of something sicker than hypocrisy when you have to go to the point of planning anarchy? or is this just some joke concocted by a colluding group of punk ridden people. surely, if you want anarchy, you should just go ahead and cause it, cos at least then the rest of us that live in this recluse of ours will be justified for our later actions. david oh, and this e-mail address now works (d.kitchen at virgin.net), so as usual (oh it's all soooo PC) you can flame me directly should you really have the inclination to -- ****************************************************************** belle and sebastian fan club merchandise, mail outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction, vote http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:d.kitchen at virgin.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Mon Mar 16 16:19:20 1998 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:19:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Owen Meany Message-ID: <01BD50CD.5E985040@n141.natureny.com> Let me put in my vote for A Prayer for Owen Meany...it is spectacular. Not to mention it's the rare book that doesn't subreference his other works (i.e. the dancing bear motif, or the hotel motif...). I just reread it over the holidays, and I was blown away all over again. I grew up near where the book takes place, so it's extra special to me. I like to think his books might make it into the Canon someday, but I know I'm dreaming. Irving's other books are good, too - but this is his crowning achievement. YOUR MOTHER HAS THE BEST BREASTS OF ALL THE MOTHERS, PAIGE ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From d.kitchen at xxx.net Mon Mar 16 16:09:51 1998 From: d.kitchen at xxx.net (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 16:09:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: IMPORTANT FAN CLUB INFORMATION References: <350B298D.D9654913@virgin.net> Message-ID: <350D4ECF.948D5FB6@virgin.net> I've had a good look into things, and it seems the last time the bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk address was working was 25th January 1998. So please, if you had mailed an order, just got in touch or something since then, re-mail your order/message to us. thanks David Kitchen -- David & Katrina wrote: > we've had some major e-mail and file retrieval problems recently. > all mail that was sent to the mailbox: bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk did not > reach us. the information has been 'lost' on totalweb's server. > > we estimate that this has been happening for the past five weeks, as > such, if you have mailed us an enquiry, sent an order via e-mail or > using the merchandise form, please re-submit the information to us. > > so: d.kitchen at virgin.net SUPERCEDES bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk -- ****************************************************************** belle and sebastian fan club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction, vote http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:d.kitchen at virgin.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Mon Mar 16 16:49:53 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 11:49:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Bandits, etc Message-ID: <199803161153_MC2-36F2-A04D@compuserve.com> Keith is a bit harsh on the BMX Bandits. They have some lovely - if slightly silly - songs. OK there are some downright bad ones as well, but few bands can match the sheer bathetic majesty of Top Shop Girl (to be found on the C86 album). I don't really know what bathetic means, but it's a beautiful word. Saw Guy Chadwick on Friday night at the Garage in London. Most of his solo stuff was dull, but he did three cool old ones: I Don't Know Why I Love You, The Girl with the Boniest Thighs, and The Eagles and Ramones. It must be rather sad to get huge roars of approval for your old band's stuff and only polite applause for your new songs. Mind you, he didn't seem too bothered. Lots of love, Pocketbook David ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Mon Mar 16 17:21:14 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:21:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BMX Bandits Message-ID: Todd asked about BMX Bandits and the short answer is "covers, covers and more covers". They are perhaps the best known most successful covers band that does not call itself a tribute band and enter a bad pun contest in the process (Bjorn Again, No Way Sis, anyone?) but fair's fair, they do at least have the decency to cover a wide variety of artists' songs. My mate Duncan, who is an authority on music of all kinds, a brilliant drummer and someone who must suffer from Burning Ear Syndrome the number of times I mention him on various mailing lists , tells me that even the classic 'Kylie's Got a Crush on Us' is a cover, though his usual brilliance in such matters is somewhat tarnished by the fact that he does not know who did the original. Anyway, I've seen BMX Bandits live, though it was quite a while ago, I think '94. They were very entertaining. I think the singer was called Doug. They covered a couple of Big Audio Dynamite songs then 'Hip Neck and Thigh' and 'Light up my Life'. Doug (if that was his name) introduced these songs by saying they were 'songs by a friend of his', making me wonder whether he really knew Mick Jones. They did a song called 'Serious Drugs' and followed it up with "KGACOU" with the neat link "that song was a bit dodgy, now here's a song about someone really wholesome". The gig was at the sadly-missed Jericho Tavern, an intimate Oxford music venue which has now become a Firkin pub, prompting the kind of anarchic action 'a boy' advocates! Many now famous Oxford bands played there; Supergrass when they were the Jennifers, Radiohead when they were On a Friday (one of two bands to be a right headache for publicity , the other being the 25th of May). Bad BMX Bandits moment- every band has one- a couple of years ago they did a TRULY AWFUL version of Jonathan Richman's 'That Summer Feeling'. Leave well alone. I've seen Jonathan as well; he was ace, though he didn't do 'Roadrunner' or 'TSF' he played all his other classics. OK, I've rambled a bit but I hope I've answered Todd's question even if I can put any ambitions of a career in rock journalism on hold.... Mark. -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Engineering & Technology Elsevier Science Ltd The Boulevard Kidlington Oxon OX5 1GB UK Tel. +44 1865 843296 Fax +44 1865 853319 E-mail m.hester at elsevier.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barzy at xxx.com Mon Mar 16 18:02:05 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 10:02:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: maybe B&S related - BMX Bandits Message-ID: >Keith wrote: >There is a connection here in that they did go on the radio with Duglas once >for an interview. I'm sure there'll be some people who'll disagree with me, >but in my opinion the BMX bandits are a complete load of shite - I wouldn't >be paid to listen to their records never mind actually hand over money to >buy one. Hard to describe what they're like... really weak, neutered pop >songs? Something like that. > >Cheers, > Keith. Todd, While Keith's opinion is valued, and not taken at all personally....I must beg to differ...yes...begging is so bla these days... I know...But hey. I say, snatch the BMX Bandits CD up, and if you think it's shite...pass it on to someone who's day it will surely brighten. Duglas, the lead singer, kind of sounds like Kermit The Frog...and all the songs are sunny and warm....They've always cheered me up when i'm down and in my most penniless moment, wouldn't ever *think* of parting with any BMX Banditos. No can do. Try it, you may like it.....You either love um or hate um. I love um. Keith hates um. The world goes round. Tra la. Another connection is...on tour Stevie from Belle & Sebastian played guitar with BMX Bandits on their last tour, and sang a song even! *sigh* A good time was had by most. ;) Kylie's got a crush on me. beth ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Mon Mar 16 18:16:15 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetry place2) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 18:16:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Monday Poem Message-ID: <199803161814.SAA08702@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Ok! I was bound to get round to Carol Ann Duffy sometime in the Monday poem. A lot of us reckon she'll be the next Poet Laureate when Big Ted pops his clogs. This is one of her most famous poems, but I've chose it cos it's also my favourite. It's fairly self-explanatory. It's from her last collection "Mean Time", published by Anvil, which came out a coupla years ago and won every prize going... Trousers xxxxx The Poetry Society Website: http://www.poetrysoc.com Carol Ann Duffy Warming Her Pearls Next to my own skin, her pearls. My mistress bids me wear them, warm them, until evening when I'll brush her hair. At six, I place them round her cool, white throat. All day I think of her, resting in the Yellow Room, contemplating silk or taffeta, which gown tonight? She fans herself whilst I work willingly, my slow heat entering each pearl. Slack on my neck, her rope. She's beautiful. I dream about her in my attic bed; picture her dancing with tall men, puzzled by my faint, persistent scent beneath her French perfume, her milky stones. I dust her shoulders with a rabbit's foot, watch the soft blush seep through her skin like an indolent sigh. In her looking-glass my red lips part as though I want to speak. Full moon. Her carriage brings her home. I see her every movement in my head... Undressing, taking off her jewels, her slim hand reaching for the case, slipping naked into bed, the way she always does... And I lie here awake, knowing the pearls are cooling even now in the room where my mistress sleeps. All night I feel their absence and I burn. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Mon Mar 16 19:08:10 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 14:08:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: cackpop Message-ID: <199803161409_MC2-36F6-3536@compuserve.com> --Adrian Evans went to see the Montrose Avenue on Saturday...Hmmmm. Just one word of warning, popkids: they've got the ex-drummer out of Menswear in them. Not good enough for Menswear? I think that says it all, really... Debbie xxx. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Mon Mar 16 21:34:42 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:34:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: FAN CLUB, MERCHANDISE NOTICE Message-ID: <350D9AF2.4583E92D@totalweb.co.uk> we have just recovered the 1,500 missing e-mails . . . . . . these include hundreds of questions and orders. we will be getting back to everyone one at a time, those of you who have ordered items will be given priority. while those with questions will have to wait a week or three for a response. please be patient whilst we work through the backlog of work. thanks david kitchen ps: the address bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk is now fully operational, but feel free to mail the other address (d.kitchen at virgin.net) if that makes you feel better. pps: because of the multitude of orders, we have now sold out of the large blue shirt and enamel badges. we'll send you all an update when we hear about the new shirts and such stuff. -- ****************************************************************** belle and sebastian fan club merchandise, mail-outs, chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction, vote http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Mon Mar 16 21:36:38 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 21:36:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: can i quote you lovely people? References: <199712022124.VAA26238@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <350D9B66.16AA72CE@lineone.net> hi kids. i'm back, i'm back in denim. actually have to be brief cos i'm rushed. reasons for this mail: compiling stuff for my book on Pop, i have a section where there are collected a number of emails to this list that document some 'discussions' about the nature of Pop. There's sections with a few lines by the following people: M. Wagner, Stuart Gardiner, Ian MacDonald, Jamie Huxley, Paul and Tim. Basically, does anyone of the above object horribly to their lines being used? there's no email addresses printed (except mine and the lists') and i will aknowledge you in the appropriate places... can you email me if you throw up your arms and say 'NO!! Don't Dare!!' cheers kids. i need to know by the weekend cos that's when the mss goes to the publisher :-) duke. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Mon Mar 16 22:36:36 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 17:36:36 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: BMX Bandits Message-ID: <677e3a4c.350da976@aol.com> The BMX Bandits? Eeeeh, I remember when it were all tubes of Smarties 'round 'ere. We forced the deeejay to put on the E102 single (vinyle even! eek!) ten years ago at my 18th birthday. We spun around like quasi-goth fools singing "I wear my crappy anorak, so I don't catch a cold", and then the power cut out, leaving us to light candles and sing Velocity Girl to our good selves while 80 perplexed relatives smiled wanly. Well, that was Essex as I remember it. Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Tue Mar 17 10:44:17 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 02:44:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: all i never said Message-ID: <350E5401.61D4@earthlink.net> howdy pardner. i got a box of goodies from parasol in the mail today, including the new guy chadwick and the new trenbling blue stars. i haven't listened to the guy chadwick yet because i can't stop listening to the new TBS. it's so much more wonderful than i would've imagined. after the first album i was thinking "they couldn't possibly top this" and i wouldn't say they have, but it's just as good. equal. and i got that northern picture library album, too....but i haven't had a chance to listen to it either. and parasol had a copy of that harvey williams album i was asking about a couple months back, so i got it also. and i have listened to it. it's really good as well. keeping with my usual ways of not mentioning b&s on the b&s list, -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mkl206 at xxx.edu Tue Mar 17 06:30:47 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 01:30:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: i'll admit i'm feeling strange Message-ID: good morning sinisterines (and good evening insomniacal americans) just a few things to say based on alot of random stuff on the list. like matt, i recently purchased another beanie baby, string bean jean. i figure that i'm going for the quartet, with judy and jenny. right now, i also have jane, which was a gift. i am a little frightened at having crossed that border where i actually bought a beanie baby, but alas, she's so cute frowning at me from on top of the monitor that i can't repent. jane is still my favorite (though don't tell jean) due to her little smile, that looks like a kitty smile. and only a kitten would give that smile, as any self-respecting cat would back away. and matt, thank you for exiting the closet on the beanie baby issue. it's good to no longer be alone in the public eye. (if brian wrote, he would admit that he got a fox which he thought of as the fox in the snow, but he'll probably beat me for even saying that much, he's very violent you know). on the topic of stephin merritt and the magnetic fields, i have a web page for the band at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ i'm actually in the process of updating it, but it works pretty well anyway. and i know there are other (rather quiet) people on the list who know alot about the band. but they're definitely brilliant and i'd recommend them to b&s fans, i definitely see a similarity. i thought the chat went pretty well all things considered. and it probably is true that the ops weren't as organized as we could have been, but i'm curious as to how many people read the instructions. alot of people seemed to have absolutely no clue how to navigate the irc, though i didn't realize this until afterwards. (yes, i am an op). but really, paul spent all this time putting up very clear instructions, and the chat was announced repeatedly weeks beforehand, so i'd really suggest using that as preparation time. i don't want to get into a fight about this, i know that individual people probably had unexpected problems or were prevented from preparing, but next time, at least send a private mesage to the ops, or even a public one if you're really having a problem. so much free time left me with too much time to contemplate not so witty remarks to make in sinster, which probably made honey a bit nervous. i'm so unpredictable you know.... ;) also, i'm thinking of planning a new york picnic, perhaps in april. i'd like to know how many people would be interested in attending. please email me privately about this, because i'm sure the glasgowegians don't need to see 60 (or 5) replies with simply: me. ;) i haven't played on the swings in central park since last fall. and i'd be willing to bring my roller skates and a tape player. skating to tigermilk anyone? xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 10:22:42 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 05:22:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Ooooh, the shame... Message-ID: <199803170523_MC2-3702-B392@compuserve.com> Mornin' spacebots, time for a confession... I feel I must get something off my chest, so to speak. Something I've only ever told one person before. Yes, 'tis true; I own the complete Menswear back-catalogue. Aaaaaargh! The shame! But, phew, I've finally admitted it and now my soul can finally rest in peace... NB: MSP write 'You Love Us' and receive mass adoration (and justly in my opinion); Menswear write 'We Love You' and everyone hates them (because they're shite?- you tell me...) that's all for now, I may never live this down... love and spangles, Debbie xxx. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sburon at xxx.fr Tue Mar 17 12:08:19 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (stéphane buron) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:08:19 +0000 Subject: Sinister: BMX Message-ID: <350E6742.D0D@club-internet.fr> Someone wrote : >Keith is a bit harsh on the BMX Bandits. They have some lovely - if slightly silly - songs. Well, i dont know what to think... A few months ago, i bought a record by the BMX Bandits because many people had mentionned this band on the list and because one track is included in the Montecarlo comp (Elefant Records), and it's great. So i bought a live cd, the BMX at the 13th Note (i thought it would be a good introduction to the band and their lovely songs). But when i came back home, i realised that it was Kim Fowley AND the BMX Bandits. They seem to have fun on the stage together, but their music is shite. Really. If anyone of this list wants this CD, i can send it to him/her... But maybe it doesnt sound like the original BMX songs. Maybe it's because of this guy, Kim Fowley. Could anyone DESCRIBE their music instead of saying its's shite/it's ace??? Thanks Stephane PS : i'm looking forward to read the book written by the Duke... When will it be released??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From afoley at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 11:07:15 1998 From: afoley at xxx.com (afoley at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:07:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: cackpop & other stuff Message-ID: <802565CA.00374AEA.00@csc.com> Debbie aka AlanPrior at compuserve.com wrote: >- --Adrian Evans went to see the Montrose Avenue on Saturday...Hmmmm. > >Just one word of warning, popkids: they've got the ex-drummer out of >Menswear in them. Not good enough for Menswear? I think that says it all,= > >really... > >Debbie xxx. Strike me down but Menswe at r aint that bad, surely not? For a cackpop band, I thought they were pretty good. They haven't gone away either, they'll be back very soon, so you have been warned.....If you want real cackpop then see Hanson.... What else....Saw Bluetones last night and very good they were too, Regular Fries were um, err, quite interesting, certainly different. A bit too much like Spiritualized at times, but they were totally M.A.F. and nowhere near as classy. I missed Medal though, which was a bit of a shame as I like to support our local bands.... Speaking of which, Animal House were outstandingly good on Saturday night, you'll definitely be hearing a lot about this band in the coming year, 'nuff said. Books and stuff.... Quite a few people have recommended John Irvings Prayer For Owen Meaney, and I wholeheartedly add to that - it's a great book. Other books by John Irving worth checking out are Setting Free The Bears and The World According to Garp. And there's more. He is a great author, so do check him out! Another fine book is Kiss Of The Spiderwoman by Manuel Puig. I could write some more, but my heads a mess and I must get on.... Kylie ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 11:31:12 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (ben ferneyhough) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:31:12 GMT Subject: Sinister: Animal House (No B&S) Message-ID: <199803171131.LAA12175@brookes.ac.uk> Kylie wrote: >Speaking of which, Animal House were outstandingly good on Saturday night, >you'll definitely be hearing a lot about this band in the coming year, >'nuff >said. I went to see Mark Gardener's new band too on Saturday night, and can certainly agree, that they were amazing. I don't think there's anything like them around at the moment. It's really smart. The backdrop/screen thing behind them was wicked too, all fractals and colourful shapes bounding about. Don't know if you noticed me 'Kylie' but I was stood with Mark and Loz before they went on, to the left of the stage. I was the one with the skin head !! Name dropping over now. To get back onto B&S, even though I said I wasn't going to mention them in the header. If anyone, well, the first 10 people, want Tigermilk, sessions etc.., then mail me privately, and I'll sort you out. I also have the West 54th session thing too, so if you'd like a copy of that too. I'm trying to avoid work you see, so there you go. Bye, Ben. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Tue Mar 17 12:37:35 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:37:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Menswear Message-ID: Debbie, There's little shame attached to being a fan of Menswear. I have a copy of their album. They are, I suppose amongst the bands which promised much and sadly failed to deliver. The same can be said for Flowered Up I suppose. Menswear's 'Daydreamer' was a superb record, reminiscent of Wire and early XTC. The follow up singles, quite frankly, weren't. Flowered Up did 'It's On' brilliant and a lot of rubbish that ended up on 'A Life with Brian' though they did redeem themselves with the epic 'Weekender' which I will always associate with a night hike from Bristol to Bath made just after my finals in '92. I do have quite acute musical association of this kind, but then I suppose anyone would remember the song they were singing in the pitch black of a curved railway tunnel at 3 in the morning..... Mark. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 11:54:31 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 11:54:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ride on brother Message-ID: <01bd519b$720590b0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >I went to see Mark Gardener's new band too on Saturday night, and can >certainly agree, that they were amazing. I don't think there's anything like >them around at the moment. It's really smart. The backdrop/screen thing behind >them was wicked too, all fractals and colourful shapes bounding about. Don't >know if you noticed me 'Kylie' but I was stood with Mark and Loz before they >went on, to the left of the stage. I was the one with the skin head !! Name >dropping over now. Avoiding work too... What exactly then are Mark Gardener's new band like then? I liked Carnival of Light a lot, at least Mark Gardener's stuff on it anyway, Andy Bell spent the whole time doing a lot of posturing and trying to get into the limelight, but the harsh reality was that his stuff wasn't as good. I also found that album quite weird in the sense that a lot of rock drummers all wind up doing comedy songs, like Keith Moon, on "Cobwebs and Strange" and obviously Ringo Starr's efforts, however in Ride, the drummer manages to come up with his one and only song written for the band "Natural Grace" and it turns out to be one of the best tracks they've ever recorded. I thought the last Ride album was rubbish, which was a pity, there's quite a lot of neat "fretwork" on it, and lots of fancy "licks" (cheers Tag) but the songs are crap, oh well, never mind. Funny band Ride, I never seemed to be able to put my finger on why I thought they were quite good. All the signs were that they were a bit overrated. However, I think the first EP's and the first album worked well at the time, "Like a Daydream" was out in the summer, then "Taste" and the first album came out in the autumn which felt right for the way they sounded... if you get my drift. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 12:59:37 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 12:59:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The 'swe@r Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Alan Prior wrote: > I feel I must get something off my chest, so to speak. Something I've only > ever told one person before. > Yes, 'tis true; I own the complete Menswear back-catalogue. Aaaaaargh! The > shame! But, phew, I've finally admitted it and now my soul can finally rest > in peace... I thought Menswe at r were dead good. I managed to get a copy of their debut 7" (sold out within 2 hours - Aye, my arse. I bought it in Stirling on the Wednesday afternoon), and was thrilled to see on the Chart Show that weekend that it was worth "as much as �50". Wonder what it's worth now...? Ah, the heady BritPop summer of '95. Happy days! > NB: MSP write 'You Love Us' and receive mass adoration (and justly in my > opinion); > Menswear write 'We Love You' and everyone hates them (because > they're shite?- you tell me...) I've got everything they've released except that single, which I thought was cack. I actually got to see them live in Glasgow for free, after winning a competition on their website (it's still there! http://www.rise.co.uk/menswear/ "New Single 'We Love You' out 28th August", apparently) and I won a free signed CD of their album, which I promptly gave to a girl I fancied, and got a snog in return. Pretty good deal, if you ask me. FWIW, they have apparently recorded a new album, but London Records have dropped them, so they're shopping around for a new label. Rod. 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 13:02:42 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:02:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: mayber B&S related - BMX Bandits In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19980316113343.007b4100@pop.avana.net> Message-ID: On Mon, 16 Mar 1998, Faker wrote: > I need some input. There has been much discussion about the BMX Bandits in > the recent past (perhaps someone from B&S has some connection?). So my > local used cd barn has this BMX Bandits cd, but my conscience forbids me > from buying things I have no knowledge of. What are they like? Is this a > worthwhile purchase? The BMX Bandits are very jingly-jangly pop (Teenage Fanclub "grew out" of them) and are OK on record, but to catch them at their best, you have to see them live. I saw them at last year's Planet Pop festival (supported by the incredible Secret Goldfish), and I haven't grinned so much at a gig in ages. Just a massive cheesy smile, plastered to my face, as I enjoy the bizarre bobbins that Duglas was coming out with, as he stands there wearing a PVC satchel with Minnie Mouse on it, and wandering round the pub carrying a tea-cup of hot water. So, in summary: Great live, average on record. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Everything I know, I learned from infomercials ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 13:05:17 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:05:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Time for tea in the UK In-Reply-To: <19980316150221.11123.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: > > Im in a pissy mood today and my latest messsages are boring me > >senseless,sometimes i wish for some racist homophobic lunatic > >to wander on to sinister and terrorise the rather PC hippiesh > >attitudes prevalent here.Im sick of banality and i think in > >keeping with belle's punk rock diy ethic we should have a > >national anarchy day on the 12 april Ooh... do we get to chuck buckets of cold water over each other, just like real anarchists do? (Actually, I'm busy on the 12th -- can we be anarchic the next day?) Rod. 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bugblatter at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 21:10:53 1998 From: bugblatter at xxx.com (The Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:10:53 -0800 Subject: Sinister: sinister: bmx-bandits Message-ID: <350EE6DD.4A64@geocities.com> I remember a while back the lad from the BMX-Bandits used to be the Scottish reporter-bloke-thingy for Mark Radcliff's graveyard shift show. Ahhh...sweet memories. The show that not only made me laugh out loud and annoy my sisters in the bedroom next door but also introduced me to B&S. I miss it... Bug. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 13:52:01 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:52:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Animal House (No B&S) In-Reply-To: <199803171131.LAA12175@brookes.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, ben ferneyhough wrote: > I went to see Mark Gardener's new band too on Saturday night, and can > certainly agree, that they were amazing. I don't think there's anything like Mark "Good looking one out of Ride" Gardener? If so, is there any recorded stuff out there? Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | WORK HARDER! | Your taxes are paying for my net connection. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tuffen at xxx.fr Tue Mar 17 15:06:23 1998 From: tuffen at xxx.fr (Hugh Tuffen) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:06:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: two pieces of velvet Message-ID: <199803171506.PAA02412@opgcf5.univ-bpclermont.fr> dear all, my tape of john peel's fairly festive 31 (the end-of-year listener's favourite songs for those of you outside the great man's reach) starts at number 24 and cuts the number two song in half. within this colourful patchwork rug of music nestle two pieces of velvet, by belle and sebastian. the songs make me feel wistful and as though I were on stage in the play of my life, in a claustrophobic box-life room, only for the scene to change and I am transported into a green summer field. nearby is the 'nick drake meadow' where ghosts of butterflies open their wings to the sun. what are numbers two and one in johnpeel's countdown? what are belle and sebastian like live (the adjective 'amazing' which you will probably use may show that they arouse strong feelings but is not very descriptive) i hope that they'll still be playing in small venues when i get back to the uk in the autumn. forgive my ignorance in all matters belle and sebastian hugh **************************************************************************** ********* Hugh Tuffen Departement des Sciences de la Terre, Universite Blaise Pascal, 5 Rue Kessler, 63038 Clermont-Ferrand, France **************************************************************************** ********* Home address: Chambre 311 Residence d'Amboise 11, Rue d'Amboise 63000 Clermont-Ferrand France telephone: +33 473 437253 (ask for chambre 311) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 14:11:50 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:11:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: cack^H^H^H^Htoppop & other stuff In-Reply-To: <802565CA.00374AEA.00@csc.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Mar 1998 afoley at csc.com wrote: > If you want real cackpop then > see Hanson.... Oi! Hanson are faboo -- definitely the best boy band around at the moment (although 911 aren't that bad) > What else....Saw Bluetones last night and very good they were too, What's the new album like? I'm waiting for another single before I commit myself to buying a copy. Saw them live at T in the Park in '96, and your blokes voice was TERRIBLE. He was just completely out of tune! Currently spinning on my CDROM drive: Delgados, All Seeing I, Urusei Yatsura and Robbie Williams. (PS. I see you work for CSC -- I went to their graduate jobs presentation. Top quality scran and a free mousemat!) Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | EVERYTHING YOU KNOW IS WRONG ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Mar 17 14:24:57 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:24:57 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Message Message-ID: Message from Stuart M to all who took part in the online chat. --- Sorry if you couldn't get on, first of all. I don't know if you missed that much. There wasn't too many proper questions answered. I think some of us were too amused and overcome with the possibilities of the "new" technology. Stevie was desperate to answer the questions, but he is a slow typer and so was swamped even when the chat was moderated. Also, this is actually the first interview we have collectively done for years! Some of us are a bit uncomfortable with it (never!- you say) but there was a genuine desire to answer your queries. It just was a bit of a shock to account for our thoughts and our actions in front of the others. If you have any questions and things, perhaps you could send them to our e-mail address and we'll try to deal with them there. It might be helpful if you mark them for the attention of a particular member to answer. Anyway, we'll probably see you when we play live because we're old fashioned and it's nice to have a real chat. I don't know if you know about our plans yet, we'll stick them up on our site when we've hammered them out a bit. Thank everyone for the FELT questions! --- Honey xxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 14:17:40 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:17:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Just in case anyone's interested Message-ID: <01bd51af$717a0270$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> This is what most of the postings between 1:19 and 2:14 GMT would look like if concatenated. >The BMX Bandits are very jingly-jangly pop (Teenage Fanclub "grew out" of >them) and are OK on record, but to catch them at their best, you have to >see them live. I saw them at last year's Planet Pop festival (supported >by the incredible Secret Goldfish), and I haven't grinned so much at a >gig in ages. Just a massive cheesy smile, plastered to my face, as I >enjoy the bizarre bobbins that Duglas was coming out with, as he stands >there wearing a PVC satchel with Minnie Mouse on it, and wandering round >the pub carrying a tea-cup of hot water. >So, in summary: Great live, average on record. >Rod. >Ooh... do we get to chuck buckets of cold water over each other, just like >real anarchists do? (Actually, I'm busy on the 12th -- can we be anarchic >the next day?) >Rod. >Mark "Good looking one out of Ride" Gardener? >If so, is there any recorded stuff out there? >Rod. >I thought Menswe at r were dead good. I managed to get a copy of their debut >7" (sold out within 2 hours - Aye, my arse. I bought it in Stirling on >the Wednesday afternoon), and was thrilled to see on the Chart Show that >weekend that it was worth "as much as 50". Wonder what it's worth >now...? >Ah, the heady BritPop summer of '95. Happy days! >FWIW, they have apparently recorded a new album, but London Records have >dropped them, so they're shopping around for a new label. >Rod. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 15:12:03 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 10:12:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Menswear Message-ID: <199803171012_MC2-370A-C267@compuserve.com> Mark Hester wrote; >There's little shame attached to being a fan of Menswear. OK, I hate to be picky, but frankly, there is. "BREEVE DEEPAH, DAYDREAMAH" wasn't too evil, in a comedy kinda way- it WAS one of the funniest records of '95- but the rest, well... Anyhoo, just had to clear that up, didn't want any of yous thinking I was a 'fan'- I was young, I didn't know what I was doing... Having said that, at least they had a bit of glam and class- something which is always appreciated. love and spangles, Debbie xxx. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Tue Mar 17 15:22:22 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:22:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: snow patrol, ken Message-ID: So it wis just ma lunchtime an i went doon the record shops an fell intae a pure massive bargain bin, ken? An i swam aboot an foun tha' snow patrol cd an that, ken. An Aye, it's got a pure nifty wee video on it an that. But i cannae hear it the now cos i dinnae have any speakers on ma machine. Bastards! Them boys in the corner knocked ma speakers sos that they could curse at each other over a large spance of floorspace. An i cannae actually see it either cos i dinnae have cd player on ma machine. Pure shite by the way. Wha's this? Ta to "Richard and the Belles"? Havnae heard of them. But i bet they're better than tha menswear shite, ken. Songs wi one chord all the way through do ma heed in. 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From IMCEAEX-_O=GONVARRI_OU=CGT_CN=RECIPIENTS_CN=SAGUILLO+5FJH at gestamp.es Tue Mar 17 16:00:26 1998 From: IMCEAEX-_O=GONVARRI_OU=CGT_CN=RECIPIENTS_CN=SAGUILLO+5FJH at gestamp.es (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jose_Maria_Sag=FAillo_=28hijo=29?=) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:00:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: RV: My own Top of the Pops Message-ID: <11C8B25D565BD111B33500609709CD8404E6D1@GESTAMP2> -----Mensaje original----- De: Jose Maria Sagúillo (hijo) Enviado el: martes 17 de marzo de 1998 16:53 Para: 'majordomo at majordomo.net' Asunto: My own Top of the Pops 16-22 March 1.-FREEDESIGN "I found Love" 2.-THE LEFT BANKE "I've got something on my mind" 3.- BELLE & SEBASTIAN "Slow graffiti" 4.- ROGER NICHOLS AND THA SMALL CIRCLE OF FRIENDS "I'll be back" Carlos, este el disco en el que viene la sintonia de "viaje a los sueños polares" 5.- Kahimi Karie "Fantastic moment" 6.- LA BUENA VIDA "Maravilla" 7.- MR MARTINI "Gascoigne please" 8.- THE CARPENTERS "Top of the world" 9.- FREEDESING "One by one" 10.-EGGSTONE "Taramasalata" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mneimark at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 16:09:26 1998 From: mneimark at xxx.com (Matthew Neimark) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 08:09:26 PST Subject: Sinister: BMX bandits Message-ID: <19980317160926.2216.qmail@hotmail.com> They are kind of famous around boston because a very local band called the Gigolo Aunts covered "Serious Drugs" which is probably the best BMX bandits song ever. The Gigolo aunts themselves are kind of funny because they played around boston a lot but their records were on Alias, so you had to buy an import to hear them. They were a favorite of local radio. The Gigolo aunts were never particularly good, but just straight-forward power pop youd be likely to hear in the early 90's. For lack of knowing better, I always thought they were great. Matt ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 16:25:22 1998 From: C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk (C Browning) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:25:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: menswear Message-ID: well i managed to let all the stuff about the bmx bandits not get me annoyed. as far as i'm concerned "life goes on" is one of my favourite ever albums and "little hands" is my favourite ever song (not the best mark you - i always think that "northern sky" by nick drake (yes yes i know) was the tippermost of the toppermost) but i didn't rise to it...but mark hester on menswe at r?! daydreamer sounds NOTHING like XTC! at all! dull flat monotonous are not the hallmarks of either colin moulding or andy partridge's songs. i have nothing against menswe at r as a whole but please don't liken them to XTC or i'll cry. blur are the only band who've evr had the guts to admit to being inspired by swindon's finest anyway. and nothing they've done - yet - has matched the works of XTC sorry i'm getting off my hobby horse now. apologies to all... chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 16:35:05 1998 From: C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk (C Browning) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:35:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: mark radcliffe Message-ID: ahhhh - the mark radcliffe graveyard slot. i think if many fans of belle and sebastian out there were to say where they first heard of them mr radcliffe would get one of the majority mentions. he's better in the afternoon than he was in the morning (not hard but then again every Radio One dj seems to be bad on the morning show. except for chris moyles who seems desperate to be fired and that kind of death wish makes for entertaining listening) anyway yeah sorry rambling. mark radcliffe's show introduced me to about 80% of my record collection. new stuff, obscure stuff, old stuff - i mean i hated a lot of the stuff he played and he hated a lot of teh stuff i played but it was kind of the on-air equivalent of those days when you go round your mates house and play ecords at each other trying desperatelt to prove whose record taste is best. like this mailing list can be at the best of times (still not sure about this day of anarchy - i think i'm busy. maybe we could all open our diaries and find when we're all free like the picnics?~) and for that radcliffe will always have a place with john peel in the radio station of heaven. the man was - at his best (and that was truly something at times) - a wonder. anyway poignant reminiscences over - i've got a dissertation to write! chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 16:58:08 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 16:58:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: a custom fit in an off the rack world Message-ID: ExCUSE me? who talked about anarchy and nihilism? OI! YOU! NOOOOO! thats MY job! and everybody just laughs at me for it, apart from the inspired few who burn down the two faced demon of twatdom Meester Tony Blair. Come on! have a go if yer think yer hard enough!!!! Organised anarchy will never sucessed, in fact if you wwant to talk about anarchy on a B&S list something is wrong. as some people may gather i am all for DIRECT ACTION - but it needs to be applied where it hurts THEM. organise another demo, throw eggs at Blair, get yourself in the media, scream and never shut up. fight them wile you're still idealistic enough to BELIEVE that in your feeble way you might achieve something. the nihilism of centuries has resulted in war, slavery and quite fucking us up actually, so how come humans in the civislised or what is called cicilised age doing crying for it? because again it means NOT THINKING. sure, nihilistically destroy things. one day you must stop, and think about what you've achieved and you have acieved fuck all. REBEl - never stop rebelling, there will always be someone worse of them you and treat that injustice like the shit it is and try to erase it. oh dear i am going off on one now! Heres how intensely intense i am, i bought another copy of the Communist manifesto today..... (and the Lexicon of Love by ABC in oxfam for 50p) even though i am imagined to look somewhat like baby spice. ok, so i sometimes have m hair in pigtails, but i am not blonde and EVil, and as for that pink fluffy coat, every time i look at that i have the urge to vomit my guts out. imagine a brunette if thou wouldst. iagine me in a nice velevt plum coloured ish jacket. at the mo' with crap stitiching on the pockets which i am sure can be removed. As for the montrose Ave comments, noe, i don't know them, but someone i was talking to on Sunday reckoned they are the saviours of P!O!P! and rule indeedy. they sounded nowt special to me, but then again, neither did MSP or B&S on first listen. and i am jealous! i wanna be in the dukes book!!! i wanna be in a book! god, aren't i screaming, oh look at me, please, pay some attention....shut it sarah! but in fact isn't every post to this list just a confirmation of the fact that you are living - and so are others? to prove humanity is not alone? ah fuck it, please feel free to laugh at me. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! Look! it's frampton! He's coming aliiiiive! http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Robert_Hardy at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 18:21:01 1998 From: Robert_Hardy at xxx.uk (Robert Hardy TM) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:21:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: *****!!!!READ THIS NOW!!!!!***** Message-ID: <199803171819.SAA01871@sand.global.net.uk> > VIRUS WARNING !!!!!! > If you receive an e-mail titled "WIN A HOLIDAY" DO NOT open it. It > will > erase everything on your hard drive. Forward this letter out to as > many > people as you can. This is a new, very malicious virus and not many > people > know about it. This information was announced from Microsoft; please > share > it with everyone that might access the internet. Once again, please > pass > this along to EVERYONE in your address book so that this may be > stopped. > Also. do not open or even look at any mail that says "RETURNED OR > UNABLE TO > DELIVER" This virus will attach itself to your computer components and > > render them useless. Immediately delete any mail items that say this. > AOL > has said that this is a very dangerous virus and that there is NO > remedy > for it at this time. Please practice cautionary measures and forward > this > to all your omline friends ASAP. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From LukeOwens7 at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 18:33:07 1998 From: LukeOwens7 at xxx.com (LukeOwens7) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:33:07 EST Subject: Sinister: *****!!!!READ THIS NOW!!!!!***** Message-ID: <66c6c095.350ec1e5@aol.com> your computer cannot be infected with a virus simply by accessing and reading messages in Internet newsgroups. You must actually download an infected file to your hard disk from an Internet site, unencode or decompress that file (if such is necessary), and then execute the file in order for an infection to occur. found on AOL virus center ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidrab at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 18:43:15 1998 From: davidrab at xxx.com (Hugh Rabagliati) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:43:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Should i put a sinister thing here? Message-ID: <01bd51d4$8bd5c080$b73e63c3@ast> Umm...help.... er.....new guy, no wait, kid, and im new to the list and ive been lurking, and im not gonna tell you all about the bands i adore because isn't that a little dull? and my name is hugh mustn't forget that...cause then you wouldn't know what to call me if i one day like, got a reply. Anything else? cause like when other people put in their first posts its usually the size of a like, really really big essay or something in that region..... and i really like those little drawings on the mailing list site...and what else...oh yeah im not a b&s obsessive cause loads of people say they are and stuff...i just bought IYFS because i thought they had the best name for a band id ever heard...and this is getting too long bye bye 4 now Hugh...pressing send with a quiver in his little digit ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- Riki Lake has a really innocent quality... davidrab at btinternet.com http://gtauto.home.ml.org/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pasty at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 03:29:18 1998 From: pasty at xxx.com (JOSEPH FOSTER) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:29:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: All Things Bright and Beautiful Message-ID: <350F3F8E.F5A@geocities.com> Yatingee! One and all. "BOOKS" ---Anything by Tom Robinson, he is a genius. ---The two Dice Man books, by Luke Rhinehart, bibles. ---The Titus Groan trilogy, by Mervin Peake. "Country" In return for flooding country orientated stuff to the list, I will seek to flood countrymusic lists with all things B&S. That seems balanced. Thankyou all for reccomendations, my Student loan just came through so come Thursday and I'll start buying up your kindhearted suggestions. Keep all mustbuystufflists coming! Ta.v.much. "Downer" I still don't know if I passed anything. Every week I see my maths tutor to remind him about sorting me out with a grade. Every week he says fuck, fuck, fuck, mumble mumble stupid dickheads. THis man is in his late 50's. Where did he learn sutch filth? Hopefully I'll have a grade soon. "B&S" -------------------well it's only fair------------------- I'd just like to say thankyou to the band, since I bought the LP I've played it every day for weeks and weeks. I've not looked back yet. "Miscalaneious" Has anyone heard snakebitelove by Moterhead? It's almost Spinal Tap. No wait, it IS. Is it me, or is early Spring the best time for LoFi? Eegnitay! I'm as happy as a watermelon in easter hay, Joe. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 18:41:52 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (aadam at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 13:41:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister:XTC (NBSC) References: Message-ID: <350EC3E2.4668@interaccess.com> C Browning wrote: > > daydreamer sounds NOTHING like XTC! at all! i have nothing > against menswe at r as a whole but please don't liken them to XTC or i'll cry. Thanks for clearing this up for me. I was actually curious about Menswe at r, but now I'm not. > blur are the only band who've evr had the guts to admit to being inspired by > swindon's finest anyway. You've forgotten Shonen Knife and Sugarplastic and Primus and local (Chicago) stalwarts The Slugs. There are a few others, but the top of my head ain't what it used to be. Aadam (swinging on a star) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane Tue Mar 17 20:06:34 1998 From: nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane (nmacfarl at xxx.MacFarlane) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 98 15:06:34 EST Subject: Sinister: *****!!!!READ THIS NOW!!!!!***** Message-ID: >From what I've been told - the virus is actually the e-mail just sent with READ THIS NOW . Notice it has an attachment - do not open the attachment whatever you do - that is where the virus would be - the method of spreading the virus is to say "forward this warning"- which isn't a warning but actually the virus! - most people forward the warning where in turn they are actually spreading the virus......so don't forward the original e-mail to anyone else - just delete it! ------------- Original Text From: LukeOwens7 , on 3/17/98 1:33 PM: your computer cannot be infected with a virus simply by accessing and reading messages in Internet newsgroups. You must actually download an infected file to your hard disk from an Internet site, unencode or decompress that file (if such is necessary), and then execute the file in order for an infection to occur. found on AOL virus center ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From hiv95352 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 20:18:45 1998 From: hiv95352 at xxx.uk (Caz) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:18:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hello all Message-ID: <350EDAA5.4F06@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> Hi peeps, Hmmm. I don't know whether I'm new or not... I used to post when the list was first set up, so I suppose a couple of people might remember me. I stopped when people got *too* upset about off-topic stuff, because, I might as well warn you now, I'm very bad at staying on topic. But I kept reading the digests (well, occasionally) and now I'm back because you lot are just too damn interesting not to reply to. Or something. >There has been much discussion about the BMX Bandits in >the recent past (perhaps someone from B&S has some connection?). No-one seems to have mentioned yet (as I said, I'm on the digest - I tend to get a little behind) that Douglas from the BMXs compered the Longest Day festivally thing with B&S, V-twin etc last summer...my bmx bandits knowledge though is limited to a copy of a single...i can't even remember what the single is but it's got That Summer Feeling on it, I think. I quite like it, but not enough to go out and look for any more of their stuff. Rod said: >I saw them at last year's Planet Pop festival (supported >by the incredible Secret Goldfish), Yay! They are great, aren't they? Though I was a bit upset when I discovered that Give him a Great Big Kiss was a cover. Still, its better than the original, so that's ok... but then he said (about the Bluetones): >Saw them live at T in the Park in '96, and your >blokes voice was TERRIBLE. which is a *bad* thing, because it means he wasn't watching the Divine Comedy, which is what he should have been doing at that time. >The Gigolo >aunts were never particularly good, but just straight-forward power pop >youd be likely to hear in the early 90's. For lack of knowing better, >I always thought they were great. They did "Where I Find My Heaven", the theme to Game On (which doesn't stop it being a great tune...), its on Shine something. Shine 2, I think. Just to catch up.. Book Recommendations: Anything by AS Byatt. Verdict on Menswear: Quite good, really. "Stardust" popped up in a pub quiz i was at the other week too.... Porn Star name: Smudge Oliver (er....) thats it... love and stuff caz -- "Do something pretty while you can Don't be afraid" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 20:36:20 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (S.K. Gardiner) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:36:20 +0000 (gmt) Subject: Sinister: Band chat etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Reading the log of the chat the other day, and Stuart D's contribution in particular, I'm reminded of a song from Lush's last album: "Keep your heroes, keep them safe They don't stand up to life So lock them in your heart and lose the key" Can't remember the song title now, it'll bug me all night, but never mind... The point is, I guess most people on this list have some sort of idea of what B&S are like in person; almost certainly the kind of people we would want to meet. But most of us are almost certainly wrong. That's why, much as I would like to know everything that goes on in B&S, in a way I'm glad that I don't know them; as it would ruin the image I have of them in my mind. Reading the posts these last few days, some people seem genuinely surprised that Stuart D wasn't the friendliest person on the planet that afternoon; why? The band members are just human beings like the rest of us. I dare say a lot of people would get pissed off about being asked things like who they think of when they wank... Sure, the chat was a great oppurtunity to get those factual questions answered (like, when are they going to tour) and to a large extent that happened; but you're expecting too much if you think you'll get to know them personally from one or two questions. Stuart Who is General Failure, and why is he reading my disk? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bullis at xxx.net Wed Mar 18 00:54:34 1998 From: bullis at xxx.net (ex-Faker Todd) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:54:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: no B&S - the importance of defining your terms Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19980317195434.007998a0@pop.avana.net> last week it was 'poof'. this week it is 'cack'. I should know these things. I'm 28 bloody years old. But than, I am American. Should I even be using these words? Could someone define 'cack' for me please? your buddy, Todd ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 20:41:27 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:41:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: begbie?!?!?!? EH? Message-ID: POP GOB?!?!?! isn't that Begbies site? Its just been mentioned on RADIO ONE!!!! fame as a listee!!! I'm jealous!!!! MY WEBSITE`S BETTER! GO TO MINE (and sign my guestbook) www.elsato97.demon.co.uk SO WHAT I DON'T HAVE A LOVE CALCULATOR??? Who the fook wants one of those anyway? I wish belle and sebastian would RAwK one day. I *really* do. i'm going to piss off now. sorry, but that radio one thing shocked me into posting...AGAIN! I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! Look! it's frampton! He's coming aliiiiive! http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sinister at xxx.net Tue Mar 17 22:12:29 1998 From: owner-sinister at xxx.net (owner-sinister at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 22:12:29 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199803172212.WAA13927@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > Return-Path: Robert_Hardy at kast.globalnet.co.uk > Received: from sand.global.net.uk (sand.global.net.uk [194.126.82.9]) by sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA28278 for ; Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:44:31 GMT > Received: from default (client85f4.globalnet.co.uk [194.126.85.244]) > by sand.global.net.uk (8.8.6/8.8.6) with ESMTP id TAA21655; > Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:44:02 GMT > Message-Id: <199803171944.TAA21655 at sand.global.net.uk> > From: "Robert Hardy TM" > To: "Chris Ward" , > "Kathryn (Chris' little sister) Stack" , > "Christopher \"Pansy\" Stack" , > "Richard Michael? Silverton" <106166.2332 at compuserve.com>, > "Sarah (Kaths Friend)" , > "Paul Renshaw" , "Rachel" , > "Sinister List" , > "Sam Lerman" , > "Sara \"The cockney\" Khan" <101530.625 at compuserve.com>, > "Oliver \"Lycra\" Hudson" , > "Chris Hassell" , > "Alison Hardy" , > "Kim Guegan" , > "Peter Grace" , > "Karen \"B&S\" David" , > "David \"Rock 'n' Roll\" Collier" , > "John Burgess" , > "William Briggs" > Subject: VIRUS WARNING THINGY- Whoo-hoo, rejoice rejoice. > Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:45:21 -0000 > X-MSMail-Priority: High > X-Priority: 1 > X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BD51DD.388F9C80" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BD51DD.388F9C80 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Well well, it seems this information wasn't true. Sorry about that. I > recieved it and was concerned and passed it on in good faith. However, we > can all now rejoice, safe in the knowledge that our computers are free from > deadly virus'. Whoo-Hoo, Rejoice and be merry. And if you worried a great > deal, f'eh, so sue me. > > ------=_NextPart_000_01BD51DD.388F9C80 > Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > >

color=3D"#000000" face=3D"Arial">Well well, it seems this information = > wasn't true.  Sorry about that.  I recieved it and was = > concerned and passed it on in good faith.  However, we can all now = > rejoice, safe in the knowledge that our computers are free from deadly = > virus'.  Whoo-Hoo, Rejoice and be merry.  And if you worried a = > great deal, f'eh, so sue me.

> > ------=_NextPart_000_01BD51DD.388F9C80-- > Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Honey X-List: Sinister -- Thank you for not discussing the outside world. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kberman at xxx.edu Tue Mar 17 22:13:07 1998 From: kberman at xxx.edu (Keith Berman) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 17:13:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Hello all In-Reply-To: <350EDAA5.4F06@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: > > >The Gigolo > >aunts were never particularly good, but just straight-forward power pop > >youd be likely to hear in the early 90's. For lack of knowing better, >I always thought they were great. > > They did "Where I Find My Heaven", the theme to Game On (which doesn't > stop it being a great tune...), its on Shine something. Shine 2, I > think. > Actually, The Gigolo Aunts are one of the more interesting power pop bands around(yes they are still around). They don't come off nearly as well on record as they do live, but they are still write some quite catchy tunes. They release an EP last year, and they signed a huge deal with some major in the states. ****************************************************************************** Keith Berman kberman at mason.gmu.edu http://mason.gmu.edu/~kberman "Keep cool, but don't freeze" --Helmans Mayo ****************************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 20:29:23 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 15:29:23 EST Subject: Sinister: help! in need of some musical guidance Message-ID: <297a6f02.350edd28@aol.com> hello, Before joining this list, I knew of few (but good) musical groups. i prided myself in my good musical tastes, and believed that was as good as it got. however, i now realize that there is so much that i haven't heard! all the discussion/comments/etc. on people like nick drake and bands like the trembling blue stars and magnetic fields are just a bit overwhelming for me. i just can't even begin to imagine all the great music that is flowing around nearby that i have not yet heard! i have seen albums by these artists, and i would like to purchase them, but i just don't know which albums are good. basically, i just wanted some idea of what are the best albums by the best music groups. since you all like belle and sebastian, i suppose you must share some of the musical tastes as i do... any advice would be greatly appreciated! thanks, tami ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blofeld97 at xxx.com Tue Mar 17 22:38:35 1998 From: blofeld97 at xxx.com (Michael Ryley) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 14:38:35 PST Subject: Sinister: oh my god...WHAT HAVE I DONE?! Message-ID: <19980317223836.7119.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi Listies Well, I'm sorry to say that this message contains no B+S info. at all. But please keep reading anyway. Y'see, I'm coming to London in a week for an indefinite period of time and i was just wondering if anyone could recommend places to go out, people to meet, even areas of the city where queer white trash like me could wander around without getting his head kicked in...oh, and any record stores (except Rough Trade since I've heard of that one)especially 2nd hand....and if there's a picnic or something happening (I've gathered that this is something you kids like to do(?) I'd love to go...the prospect of going over there from sleepy Brisbane (Australia) is a little daunting, but immensely exciting...Personally i can't wait. Please feel free to email me personally as i am quitting the list, since i won't have regular computer access to wade through the mail i get from this and other lists. All replies would be muchly appreciated. Thankyou for yr. time love Michael xx ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From yazansam at xxx.uk Tue Mar 17 23:08:53 1998 From: yazansam at xxx.uk (Yaz) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 23:08:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: no B&S - the importance of defining your terms Message-ID: <199803172306.XAA01294@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> bollox, did i send this to the wrong place? > an anguished ex-Faker Todd cried in some distress: > > > last week it was 'poof'. > > > > this week it is 'cack'. > > > > I should know these things. I'm 28 bloody years old. But than, I am > > American. Should I even be using these words? > > > > Could someone define 'cack' for me please? > > > i have just decided i might revamp my fanzine and call it "New Musical > Cack" instead. > ....anyone got any better ideas? > > > love, > > Isobele A. Sebastians. > (that's my porn name, yes siree, oh yes, indeedy) > > actually, i'm lying, it's Benson Cloisters (if i cheat and use my > best-friend's dog instead, becuase i was a little deprived, petless > child....sniff, sniff ) > > (BTW Honey, she says hi and d' ya know why my so-called-ex-lover is called > Benson, then? Her dad sschmmokes faaaaar too many B&Hs per day, that's > why.) > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Tue Mar 17 23:18:53 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 18:18:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: jeepers creepers Message-ID: <199803172318.SAA12050@Vector.inexpress.net> eep! (i've got like half a sec to do this) umm apologie,apologies!THis has nothing to do with mmmmanything,really! I need help...i need a topic to do speech on in english...what to do,WHAT the hell should I do? idea,suggestion very gratefull....(my teacher,he be the death of me!) mmm..happy st patricks day! ok,kiss kiss! luv, Genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Parcae at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 00:59:06 1998 From: Parcae at xxx.com (Parcae) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 19:59:06 EST Subject: Sinister: Ooooh, the shame... Message-ID: <2ee5b3cd.350f1c5c@aol.com> it's okay, i have the kula shaker album. what was i thinking? ew... uyen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Wed Mar 18 01:22:25 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Tue, 17 Mar 1998 20:22:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: oh lassie come home Message-ID: <199803180122.UAA14309@Vector.inexpress.net> hee hee...the coast is clear... >Date: Mon, 16 Mar 1998 02:34:32 -0800 >From: bradford >Subject: Sinister: breakfast > >hey. > >i really truly do not mean to offend genevieve (blink at inexpress.net), >and i don't think i will...i just want to know who else agrees with me. ah don't worry,you could never offend me! :) >not knowing what she looks like, but reading her posts.......everytime >i'm reading something she wrote i picture her looking like ally >character in the breakfast club (allison) typing away furiously and >daydreaming and blowing mousy hair out of her eyes. > >so, genevieve, do you look like ally sheedy in the breakfast club? ermmm...actually i don't look like her...well not as i can see..i'm short,long brown hair green eyes.. (i also enjoy red vinyl catsuits ..geez this sounds like a 'personals' ad..) ermm,i dunno?...does that make me look like her?(weird you should mention this movie,i just saw it for the first time a little while ago...those lines are silly "I...I could run away ot the ocean,afghanistan...budapest" or whatever! ...wait a sec...someone at the door,better get the bat... OK..where were we? But you know,i have friend who acts exactly like her...even down to the banging her head on the desk bit..i just sit at my desk listening to music or making pervy comments...(there is this one actress that people say i look like tho,but i'm not gonna say cos i already feel like an eejit) >whatever works for you. > >- -brad i imagine brad to looker like..hmmmmmmmmm....antonio banderas,oh oh antonio... love love,lots of it, genevieve..or g-funk... p.s yall did get my last message?pweeze pweeze help me,I WAS gonna be all set,I found this book in the library called 'So You Want To Be A Ham' and i thought that was excellent...utill I found out was a ham called...it's not a ham like,HAM..it means someone who does communications ands stuff,and I need to give him my rough (reeally ruff in my case) copy on friday...need topic..... '...i wanna DIE! die in the summertime...' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Wed Mar 18 10:39:26 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 02:39:26 -0800 Subject: Sinister: oh lassie come home References: <199803180122.UAA14309@Vector.inexpress.net> Message-ID: <350FA45E.2EFF@earthlink.net> blink at inexpress.net wrote: > i imagine brad to looker like..hmmmmmmmmm....antonio banderas,oh oh antonio... you hit the nail on the head there. no, really. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrewnic at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 09:14:23 1998 From: Andrewnic at xxx.com (Andrewnic) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 04:14:23 EST Subject: Sinister: Ooooh, the shame... Message-ID: <39a306fa.350f9071@aol.com> I remember going to a club at the Music Box (or whatever it may have been called at the time) in Edinburgh once-upon-a-time, and Menswear were there. They had been at the Venue I think. Anyway, knowing my wee sister had been to see them (and was a huge fan at the time) I 'phoned her to let her know. She was well chuffed, but didn't want to come out 'cause she wouldn't know what to say, so she asked me to get something signed. It was unbelievably embarrassing. Got me t-shirt signed by them all. I was completely twatted at the time (honest). I seem to remember going up to everyone (Keith included, I think), pointing at my chest and grinning. I WAS JUST CHUFFED AT GETTING THE GOODS FOR MY WEE SISTER, OKAY?!?!? Just to clear that up. I'm off to die of shame now. Arnold Wince aka Nice Worn Lad aka Cordial 'n' New ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From john.hucker at xxx.net Wed Mar 18 17:54:35 1998 From: john.hucker at xxx.net (John Hucker) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 09:54:35 -0800 Subject: Sinister: London has let me down again? References: <350E5401.61D4@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <35100A57.D6A81AC4@virgin.net> Hi, Sorry no B&S here. Just wanted to ask a favour. I might be moving to London and wondered whether any kind soul might enlighten me on a decent area to live. Any comments off the list gratefully appreciated. Choose Loaf, Jxhn. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 18 10:46:20 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 10:46:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: no contiene nada de Belle y Sebastian, lo siento Message-ID: Dear anyone: Should I get And She Closed Her Eyes by Stina Nordenstam? I listened to Little Star last night and realised again how much I love that song. Oh what a dilemma... ByeBye, Liz. (edaplynr3n00297 at kiadroch.kiad.ac.uk) ************************************************************* Love without hope, as when the young bird-catcher Swept off his tall hat to the Squire's own daughter, So let the imprisoned larks escape and fly Singing about her head, as she rode by. Robert Graves ************************************************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From olaf7 at xxx.is Wed Mar 18 11:26:00 1998 From: olaf7 at xxx.is (OMUser=Olafia Svansdottir) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:26:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nbs or no content for that matter, feel free to skip this one Message-ID: >Ah, the heady BritPop summer of '95. Happy days! oh, how i remember that magical summer of 95,, I had just turned 18 and was going to London for the first time- the city of Britpop( the wonder of it all). Imagine my delight when I arrived and I thought to myself ' I'm in the same city as Jarvis Cocker' coming from a hillbilly country like Iceland where there are no big stars to daydream about, it was like magic! Being an all britpopper at the time, I myself too liked menswe at r and this beautyfull list has made me come to terms with it,there was a time whenI felt slightly embarresed about it, but i remember one actually good song- it's called I'll manage somehow... I was too a Gene fan, and I dont know what to think about that now, should I be embarresed too or should I show off my three cd's I got with them? I was watching bbc prime the other day and I saw a show called Britpop now- remember? it was in the blome of britpop and had: Blur(in school uniforms singing country house), Echobelly, Sleeper(oh they still exist), Elastica,Menswear and Supergrass,,, it took me back,,, some bands did come out of that area ok, and are still live and kicking and I dont mean to trash any of them. But now I'm (almost) 21 and I look back to those days with a bit nostalgic mind I must say. Being on this list is not only entertaining, it's educative too, I'm learning all these new words and learning the names of bands I would really like to listen to, but it's no chance of me purchasing the cd's here( in the fasist state I live in) but there will be a fest next time I go abroud, and what books to read-although they are all in english and I dont find it fasanating enough to read a whole book in english without getting a grade for it,,, but I'll wait till they are translated.. on B&S content....ummm no I cant think of a thing.. I like them, did I mention that...? Could somebody pass Begbies homepage address to me, I've been to Sarahs and I want to judge which is better ...................................................................... ..............................................................olla ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 18 11:14:23 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:14:23 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: no contiene nada de Belle y Sebastian, lo siento In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, ELIZABETH DAPLYN wrote: > Should I get And She Closed Her Eyes by Stina Nordenstam? I > listened to Little Star last night and realised again how much I love > that song. > Oh what a dilemma... yes yes yes yes yes yes yes get them all they are wonderful In a moment of madness I was thinking of setting up one more mailing list even though this one is sometimes a pain in the bum (babies anyone?) and that would be for Stina. She is my star, my goddess, the icing on my cake. Her songs are quite nice too. B&S peripheral content and sound of a trumpet being blown briefly: I wandered into chat.msn.co.uk last night and watched two online chats, with Ash and Courtney Pine. Now I think ours was bloody brilliant. Answers to questions came in at about one every 3-4 minutes and some were just ignored - the silences were like entering Dante's Inferno. Ash wandered off without saying goodbye or answering the last question. Courtney was 45 mins late and stayed for 25 minutes and then left unexpectedly. All this with an interviewer fielding the questions rather than letting us talk direct, so there was no feeling of contact. Maybe essexdog is right: IRC just isnt suitable for this. But it's all we've got. The Kevin Shields AOL chat shows questions formally put by an interviewer and answered in an ordered way - frankly very much like an NME interview but with a brain, but presumably with questions asked beforehand by fans? B&S were never on for this: they specifically didn't want an "interview" - and they, like us on our side, decide how they talk to us. As essexdog says in another post re. the Big Poof debate of 1998: "If B&S want to dispel such aspertions, all they have to do is deny them. But they won't. And why should they. It's a LARF, innit? EH??!" Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tuffen at xxx.fr Wed Mar 18 12:29:30 1998 From: tuffen at xxx.fr (Hugh Tuffen) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:29:30 GMT Subject: Sinister: skeletons, not menswear in the cupboard, radical politics Message-ID: <199803181229.MAA01804@opgcf5.univ-bpclermont.fr> what happened to the band 'the walkingseeds?' they used to sound brilliant about nine years ago, then again at the time i was obsessed with The Cult, trying to be a goth in a small town which meant i became a fast runner and a good tree climber to escape the boy racers and 'casuals' who'd chase us through the park on friday night Wow so there's such strong anti-car pro-public transport policies in the Trudget my arse. What a watered down load of tosh. And everyone knows that electric cars (better than the kitsch C5!) work dead well, going slowly in them would encourage love of nature and respect of the environment cos you could hear the sheep mooing and the grasshoppers yawning as you glided past, your shiny little beetle-like contraption sounding like an electric turkey in the morning air. but the oil companies and car manufacturers have this stranglehold, everything's so short-term and profit orientated EVERYTHING'S SO SHORT TERM AND PROFIT ORIENTATED a note of explanation:- i have heard an electric turkey so there. It could walk across the room. Prolapse are brilliant. Isaw them in exeter, the singers staring into a pint and at the floor all night, with the rest of the band with their backs to us making a fucking racket. And the great lost band 'tarrot marrow', scotland's finest of the early nineties. once they got to support swervedriver at king tut's so they were pretty massive. NOW-OBLIGATORY BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS 'the trial' by franz kafka (specially if you're into politics and THE SYSTEM) 'one hundred years of solitude' by garcia-marquezbut you've probably already read it 'bad wisdom' by bill drummond and mark manning (so funny, perverted as fuck) 'immortality' by milan kundera 'heaven and hell'/'the doors of perception' by aldous huxley (brought on vivid flashbacks) 'under the volcano' by malcom lowry (alcoholic nightmares in mexico) 'the story of the eye' by georges bataille (now, how twisted can a mind get?) 'the man without qualities' by robert musil (takes a year to read, worth it) any washing machine/hairdryer manual hugh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 12:57:07 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:57:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Meeja Hor Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, Sarah wrote: > POP GOB?!?!?! > isn't that Begbies site? > Its just been mentioned on RADIO ONE!!!! > fame as a listee!!! Crikey! Wouldn't you just know that now, as I'm trying to check this out, the BBC's webshite is pinging a 50% packet loss. (For non-geeks, this means my connection to it is shafted) Doesn't Dave Green have something to do with the Digital Update? Presumably he passed on my site after featuring it in the latest issue of Need To Know (http://www.ntk.net -- if you're a geek, and British, this is the e-zine for you!) Mind you, that's not the first time I've been on Radio 1... On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, C Browning wrote: > ahhhh - the mark radcliffe graveyard slot. i think if many fans of belle and > sebastian out there were to say where they first heard of them mr radcliffe > would get one of the majority mentions. he's better in the afternoon than he > was in the morning I was on the Busy Buzzy Bee game about a year ago. It was the same day that David Bowie was on -- http://www.maingate.demon.co.uk/sounds/rod.ram for the trailer for that week. I was quite chuffed! > except for chris moyles who seems desperate to be fired > and that kind of death wish makes for entertaining listening) Mmm. I only ever hear his show at the end of term (when I'm up to 5am working on coursework, like I am at the moment), but he does tread the thin line between being an irritating unfunny DJ like Steve Wright, and completely anarchic comedy genius. > anyway yeah sorry rambling. mark radcliffe's show introduced me to about 80% > of my record collection. new stuff, obscure stuff, old stuff - i mean i hated > a lot of the stuff he played and he hated a lot of teh stuff i played To me, the old Graveyard Shift was a more accessible version of John Peel. You got to *hear* the bands that the NME/Melody Maker were going on about, usually before the papers had started going on about them! But the addition was the him'n'Lard were so laugh out loud funny, especially when they were causing Mark Kermode to get completely exasperated. The "Competition Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime" jingle was a classic of our time. Their show didn't really work as well in the morning, though, cause they didn't have someone to bounce off quite so often. On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, ex-Faker Todd wrote: > Could someone define 'cack' for me please? It means `jobby'. Hope this helps. (the new-improved reply-combining) Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Segmentation fault (core dumped) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rewb2 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 18 13:34:06 1998 From: rewb2 at xxx.uk (Rob B) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 13:34:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Meeja Hor Message-ID: <199803181334.NAA23011@sand.global.net.uk> Begbie wrote: > > To me, the old Graveyard Shift was a more accessible version of John Peel. > You got to *hear* the bands that the NME/Melody Maker were going on about, > usually before the papers had started going on about them! But the > addition was the him'n'Lard were so laugh out loud funny, especially when > they were causing Mark Kermode to get completely exasperated. The > "Competition Tiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiime" > jingle was a classic of our time. > I was so sad when Mark 'n' Lard left the graveyard shift - they were the only radio programme i was ever devoted to - remember Classical Gas? now that was the funniest thing i've ever heard on the radio. plus - they were the only really popular outlet of poetry for new poets like Simon Armitage, John Hegley, Ian Macmillan, etc - it's a great shame that that's all gone now. And, they never spoke over records - compare the B&S sessions on their show and the Evening Session sessions - Steve Lamacq, without fail, will talk over the introduction and last 30 seconds of every song he plays... now that annoys me rob ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 14:37:43 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:37:43 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: The Third Summer of Love In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, OMUser=Olafia Svansdottir wrote: > >Ah, the heady BritPop summer of '95. Happy days! > oh, how i remember that magical summer of 95,, I had just turned 18 > and was going to London for the first time- the city of Britpop( the > wonder of it all). That summer was a defining time in my life. I'd started University a year earlier, a reader of Q and a listener of Virgin 1215 -- an old fart before my time! However, in my first term, I fell in love with a girl who was a total indie-kid, which probably accelerated the change in my music taste. By the end of the year, I was an Oasis-T-Shirt wearing, NME-worshipping stereotype! My summer was spent going to see Oasis at Irvine Beach, T in the Park and Reading. I saw more live bands that summer than I have done in the rest of my life[1]! I was in record shops every week snapping up the 7"s that the papers were recommending. The week of the "Battle of the Britpop", I was in Belfast, relaxing in the sun with afore-mentioned girl. She got annoyed, though, because I bought Oasis and Blur, but not The Charlatans who were released the same week! It *was* a generation-defining moment, no matter what your opinions now of those bands involved. > I was watching bbc prime the other day and I saw a show > called Britpop now- remember? I've still got that show on tape. It also features the woe-fully underrated Powder with their hit-single "Aphrodisiac", which won brownie points just for mentioning the kids TV show "Crackerjack" (see also "Jackanory" in Country House) > it was in the blome of britpop and had: > Blur(in school uniforms singing country house), Echobelly, Sleeper(oh > they still exist), Elastica,Menswear and Supergrass,,, it took me > back,,, some bands did come out of that area ok, and are still live > and kicking and I dont mean to trash any of them. Sleeper are rumoured to be no more. According to "those" in the "know" on uk.music.alternative, Ms Wener is now a solo artiste. The band wanted to split a while back, but decided (read: were forced) to stay together for the tour. Other rumours: Elastica have decided that everything they've recorded over the last year is shite (including the stuff recorded with Mark E Smith), and have wiped the tapes. Booo! Elastica at TitP'95 was one of the best concerts of my life. > But now I'm (almost) 21 and I look back to those days with a bit > nostalgic mind I must say. Me too! It's strange, but all I remember from that summer is hot sunny days, listening to great music, and metamorphising from the geek of old, to the geek of new! > on B&S content....ummm no I cant think of a thing.. I like them, did I > mention that...? Erm.... me neither... erm... I listened to If You're Feeling Sinister this morning, in the shower. > Could somebody pass Begbies homepage address to me, I've been to Sarahs > and I want to judge which is better http://www.begbie.com Today's useful tip: Always check that the washing machine has completely drained of water before opening the door. Rod. [1] At that point, I'd been to five concerts - Danny Wilson, Tanita Tikaram, Teenage Fanclub, The Boo Radleys and... The Senseless Things. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Real programmers don't document ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Pierre.Coat at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 09:33:48 1998 From: Pierre.Coat at xxx.com (Pierre.Coat at xxx.com) Date: 18 Mar 1998 09:33:48 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Are they still alive? Message-ID: <"0318143746-Are they still alive?"@MHS> Hi all! got a question. Does anybody know if The High, The La's, East River Pipe, Another Sunny Day or Brian still exist? I use to love these bands so much and there CDs are waiting for little brothers now... I know, it's such a long time ago... but I'm still waiting for them, like I'm still waiting for a new My Bloody Valentine release. Yeap, hope makes me live. By the way, there's no shame to listen to Menswe at r, Gene or Shed Seven. I mean, they are not my favorite bands, but it's OK to listen to them from time to time. Just think about people who listen to Celine Dion... And to add some book references to the list: Bret Easton Ellis: "American Psycho" Malcolm Lowry: "Under the Volcano", "Lunar Caustic" James Joyce: "Ulysse" Michel Tournier: "Les Meteores" (don't know if it's available in English) Franz Kafka: everything Time to go now! Pierre "Si seulement nous avions Le courage des Oiseaux Qui chantent dans le vent glace..." Dominique A. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Mar 18 15:07:25 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:07:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: We're only making plans for Northy Message-ID: <01bd527f$8f79cb90$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >daydreamer sounds NOTHING like XTC! at all! dull flat monotonous are not the >hallmarks of either colin moulding or andy partridge's songs. i have nothing >against menswe at r as a whole but please don't liken them to XTC or i'll cry. >blur are the only band who've evr had the guts to admit to being inspired by >swindon's finest anyway. and nothing they've done - yet - has matched the >works of XTC > >sorry i'm getting off my hobby horse now. apologies to all... > >chris Yes indeed I would agree, I cannot see any comparison between Menswear and XTC at all. Wire yes, in fact Daydreamer is almost exactly the same as "Practice makes perfect", except of course that has nowhere near the style that Wire have. Chairs Missing is an excellent album, as are all of Wire's early records and are dead cheap too, well worth getting. Didn't the Stone Roses admit to being fans of the Dukes of Stratosphear records? I seem to remember this. The Duke would be proud. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 16:30:45 1998 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:30:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Gigolo Aunts Message-ID: <01BD5261.4BC44060@n141.natureny.com> I saw the Gigolo Aunts quite recently opening for another band. I had never heard them before, but, being from the Greater Boston Area, had heard much OF them. I was so sourly disappointed. The first song was OK, kind of jangly and retro a la Push Kings, but then they just started to (pardon my French) blow. One song was completely indistinguishable from the next and they were the most banal, nondescript songs I have ever heard - and I have sat through a lot of dull and/or bad opening bands (don't even get me started on Kenickie....). They were only hindered by the weak, thin voice of their lead singer. Yuck. Wondering if it's wrong that I like the new Madonna, Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Wed Mar 18 16:21:10 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:21:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Streets of London (Well Essex) Message-ID: <01BD5289.E09FAD00@pc07628> >John wrote : >Subject: Sinister: London has let me down again? >Hi, >Sorry no B&S here. Just wanted to ask a favour. I might be moving to >London and wondered whether any kind soul might enlighten me on a decent >area to live. Any comments off the list gratefully appreciated. Try Barkings Thames View Estate....lovely smells in the morning. Lucy. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 16:28:42 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:28:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: scrawn, shirley and your holiday reading list... Message-ID: <199803181129_MC2-372E-6709@compuserve.com> Just feel I should get my mark radcliffe views in too... He is my hero. Sad but true. I love him so- even though my music obsession is all his fault; B&S, PJ Harvey, Secret Goldfish, Kenickie, Urusei etc were all his fault... Not as good during the day, though. But he's still well sexy. I was just looking through my 'New Improved Formula' NME...oh, I'm so glad it's costing me an extra 10p a week to get the adverts in full colour now. Bloody great that is. Having said this, it does feature the oh-so-sexual Shirley Manson on the cover. Mmmmmmmm- reason in itself to buy any mag, even if it does now look like a Sunday newspaper colour supplement or sommat...oh well. Additions to the book list; --'The Bowels Of Christ' Graham (Secret Goldfish) Lironi --'The Rachel Papers'- Martin Amis --'Our Lady Of The Flowers'- Jean Genet --'Tropic of Capricorn'- Henry Miller Whatever you do, DON'T READ 'American Psycho' by Brett Easton Ellis- it's the most HORRIBLE book I've ever read. Bleugh. Obviously this is now gonna have the reverse effect, but it really is icky... I feel that after my Menswear admission everyone should now declare the most embarrassing record in their collection before we go any further. Any NKOTB/Rus Abbot/Five Star/Cast out there? If nothing else, it wouold make me feel better... love, Debbie xxx. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Wed Mar 18 16:34:32 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:34:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Strategic Planning Sub-Committee Message-ID: <01BD528B.BBB0CD60@pc07628> >Rodney Bigboy wrote : >On Tue, 17 Mar 1998, C Browning wrote: >> ahhhh - the mark radcliffe graveyard slot. i think if many fans of belle and >> sebastian out there were to say where they first heard of them mr radcliffe >> would get one of the majority mentions. he's better in the afternoon than he >> was in the morning >I was on the Busy Buzzy Bee game about a year ago. It was the same day >that David Bowie was on -- http://www.maingate.demon.co.uk/sounds/rod.ram >for the trailer for that week. I was quite chuffed! Wow !! I was on that too last May. I was on the show that the hapless boy Lard decided to try out his Mike Hunt gag on the handover to Funky Si. Silly Boy. We all sat round eating cake and drinking tea at about 7:30 in the morning....very civilised...:-))) Unfortunately I was unable to take part in the end game due to drinking excessive amounts of fizzy brown water in the Britannia Hotel till the early hours of the morning and feeling rather sick with a bad case of the DT's. Not a good preparation for the marathon that is the Busy Buzzy Bee Finale. But what a nice jar of honey I got....with Pecan nuts in. How I miss the graveyard shift and Simon Armitage and Glyn Maxwells wonderful ramblings. Lucy. -- ******************************************************************** "Yes there is a Santa Claus, and anyone who blasphemes against Santa or any of his helpers shall DIE!!" Jimmy Tarbuck. ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mick at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 17:03:39 1998 From: mick at xxx.com (Mick McMick) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:03:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Are they still alive? References: <"0318143746-Are they still alive?"@MHS> Message-ID: <350FFE6B.37A4C2B8@indiepop.com> Pierre.Coat at cable.alcatel.com wrote: > got a question. Does anybody know if The High, The La's, No idea on these... > East River Pipe, Last I heard he signed to a major label, but wasn't there something about the division he signed to folding, and so he wasn't signed to a major anymore? Regardless, it's just one guy, so he can't really "break up" =) I guess he could stop doing music, but I don't think he will anytime soon... > Another Sunny Day Isn't Another Sunny Day just Harvey Williams of various Sarah Records-related bands fame? If so, he played a date here in the US a few months back. I believe he was opening for the Divine Comedy, but I'm not wholly sure. I don't know if he's playing much these days or not. If it's someone else, I don't really know about their whereabouts... > or Brian still exist? Yeah. They have a webpage somewhere, and I think they finished recording their next album, with string arrangements by Sean O'Hagan. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - mick at indiepop.com - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - sandcastlerecords at indiepop.com | | Sandcastle Homepage - http://indiepop.com/sandcastle/ | | | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Wed Mar 18 16:59:56 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:59:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Precedence: bulk Message-ID: Pierre, The High went all grungy, totally changing their sound (unnecessarily, as they were never really part of a 'scene') then vanished). Don't know about East River Pipe - I liked them as well. The La's split up, but the bassist is now the singer with Cast. In the US, mention there she goes and the response is usually "yes, that great song by the Boo Radleys" as apparently they covered it on a film soundtrack or something. Mark. -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Engineering & Technology Elsevier Science Ltd The Boulevard Kidlington Oxon OX5 1GB UK Tel. +44 1865 843296 Fax +44 1865 853319 E-mail m.hester at elsevier.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 18 17:11:17 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:11:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Nostalgia ain't what it used to be In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > >Ah, the heady BritPop summer of '95. Happy days! Oh yes, I remember that summer well... (I'd love to be able to write the rest of this in sepia, but it's a bit difficult on email... oh well, you'll just have to imagine it...). I'd just finished school, waiting anxiously for exam results to see if I'd got into Uni, lazy sunny days, working in the local McDonalds. Oh dear, it doesn't seem quite so romantic any more. > However, in my first term, I fell in love with a girl who was a total > indie-kid, which probably accelerated the change in my music taste. By > the end of the year, I was an Oasis-T-Shirt wearing, NME-worshipping > stereotype! > I really got into indie music purely thanks to the Radcliffe graveyard shift show. I remember listening to the first ever show he did on Radio 1 (and even a few of the shows he did on Radio 5 on Wednesday evenings - Hit The North I think they were called) and thinking, yeah, it's really funny, shame about the music. This was in a period of my life when my taste wasn't very developed (Confession time: forget Menswear, anyone remember the London Boys?!?) and Radcliffe's music seemed too obscure. But as time went on, and I listened more and more, I came to love the music as much as the comedy, and I haven't looked back since. The man is indeed a genius. And that's where I first heard B&S... By the way, the other DJ that has been mentioned recently is Chris Moyles; and guess who is sitting in for Mark and Lard in the afternoon slot for the next 2 weeks while they're on holiday... > The week of the "Battle of the Britpop", I > was in Belfast, relaxing in the sun with afore-mentioned girl. She got > annoyed, though, because I bought Oasis and Blur, but not The Charlatans > who were released the same week! > I still remember the day of the denoument, the Sunday afternoon when the chart was announced and we found out who had won. I wasn't anywhere near a radio at the time, I was walking across a field carrying a sleeping bag and some alcohol on my way to meet a friend to go with him to a party ('cos he had a car). After waiting outside his house for about an hour, wondering who was number 1, I gave up and went home - it turned out I'd got the time wrong and I should have been there an hour earlier. So I missed the party, and still didn't find out until the next day what had happened. On a completely different (and almost entirely irrelevant) note, has anyone out there seen Acetone live? They're described in this month's Select as an "American Belle and Sebastian", and they're supporting Spiritualised here on Saturday; is it worth turning up early for them? Listee Maximus ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jfrankel at xxx.net Wed Mar 18 17:26:28 1998 From: jfrankel at xxx.net (Jarrett Frankel) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:26:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: Are They Still Alive? In-Reply-To: <199803181521.PAA10052@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >From: Pierre.Coat at xxx.com >Subject: Sinister: Are they still alive? > >Does anybody know if The High, The La's, East River Pipe, >Another Sunny Day or Brian still exist? I can only speak for two of the aforementioned bands, Brian and East River Pipe. East River Pipe are still going, as far as I know. Their last album was '96's mostly excellent "Mel", released in the US on the fine Merge label. I haven't heard any news on a new album, though I can't imagine what Mr. Cornog would do if he didn't make the beautiful music he makes. Don't expect a breakup, that'd be quite the feat considering ERP consists of FM Cornog and FM Cornog alone. As long as he exists(a long time, hopefully, we don't get songwriters like him everyday) East River Pipe will exist. And anybody reading this who has never heard of ERP and feels adventurous enough to want to take a chance on a record that could possibly change your life, PLEASE go out and buy/steal/borrow for a really really long time the "Shining Hours In A Can" compilation on Ajax Records. Guaranteed you'll cherish it. If not, I'll say a prayer for your kids. Brian, my sources tell me, has(have?) a new album coming out supposedly this year on the Bar/None label here in the states. I believe the last thing put out was the wonderful "Understand" EP. related note: B&S would do fine covers of ERP's "Silhouette Town" and "Times Square Go-Go Boy," dont'cha think? rendered, rainforested & rolexed: jarrett frankel jfrankel at intr.net ************************************************************** albums of the week: 3/16/98 ~Richard Davies- Telegraph ~Plush- Found A Little Baby 7" ~Tortoise- TNT ~DJ Cam- Mad Blunted Jazz ************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Mar 18 17:40:01 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:40:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Hear my song.. Message-ID: <199803181732.RAA01899@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> I've been wanting to post things to the list for ages but every time my hand hovers above the send button an image of Cliff Richard appears and asks me just how bored I want the list to be and I refrain. This time I'm fighting him off - get the behind me, Heathcliff! But I must chip in and say how gorgeous Mark and Lard were on the graveyard shift (and still are now they are daytime, I'm sure). Listening to their show made so HAPPY, it broadened my mind and of course introduced me to Belle and Sebastian, and Stina N and and and.... I had to go and work in Portsmouth for a while ( Hampshire's IT heartland!), I was put up in an anonymous hotel but listening to mark and lard in the evenings made it such a pleasure. I'd sit in my room and just smile and laugh at the bollox they talked or Lard's farty noises And for lovers of their comedy items there are some great websites. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Academy/2549/main.htm has a good collection of sound files - my computer now says Arse! or Cobblers! whenever anything happens - quality. ta ta Flipper Crace (My mate always 'wins' the Porn Star game - that's what happens when you call your guinea pig "Winkle") ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From euan.leitch at xxx.net Wed Mar 18 17:45:16 1998 From: euan.leitch at xxx.net (Euan Leitch) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:45:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sinister: a wee bit b&s Message-ID: <3510082C.3263@virgin.net> Thanks to whoever talked about The Beta Band. The single has made my working day a little bit skivier. I bought it with Mark Hollis new album. Get it. It is lazy, soft and slow and heavenly unlike Guy Chadwick who I saw in London on Friday being sluggish, bland and dull. I could have stayed in Embra and seen the Beta Band. He was worth enduring to hear The Catchers who haven't lost their sweetly painful touch. Did you know that last summer, while we barely heard B&S on the radio, an Athens station played them all the time? I mean, Greece? How? Books to reed: Italo Calvino - If on a winter's night a traveler... Umberto Eco - Foucalts Pendulum Truman Capote - In Cold Blood How have these book recommendations carried on without someone complaining? Uan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk Wed Mar 18 18:12:17 1998 From: C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk (C Browning) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 18:12:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: xtc/dukes/stone roses Message-ID: the stone roses apparently asked john leckie to produce their album because they were such huge fans of the dukes. i'm sure they were fans of leckie's other works but i guess the dukes stuff still showed he could do his stuff seamlessly. both dukes albums are wonderful. i was trying to think of any link between xtc and belle andf sebastian but apart from the fact they are both marvellous i can't think of any. ho hum. chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 19:54:58 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:54:58 EST Subject: Sinister: no contiene nada de Belle y Sebastian, lo siento Message-ID: <4d8b842a.35102695@aol.com> In a message dated 3/18/98 11:40:37AM, you write: << Maybe essexdog is right: IRC just isnt suitable for this. But it's all we've got. The Kevin Shields AOL chat shows questions formally put by an interviewer and answered in an ordered way - frankly very much like an NME interview but with a brain, but presumably with questions asked beforehand by fans? >> No, the questions were sent in 'live' to a central controller - he passed them on to Kevin who then chose which one to answer online. maybe I only mentioned that chat because I managed to get half a dozen questions answered (including "What's your favourite Spice Girl?" - and before anyone gets sarky on my 'ass', Smash Hits turned me down for a job, OK?). Re: The quoting of my posting about the "Is Stuart gay or not?" 'issue', specifically "It's a LARF, innit?" - That was intended to mean that ultimately the mystique element is very important, and frankly one doesn't really want to chat to people in a prosaic setting where "oooh I've just spilt crisps on the floor" takes precedence as a posting over 'fan' questions. There's no way the band could have done that chat without coming across as either flummoxed, aloof, anal, smug or flippant. Unfortunately they chose the latter. Whatever. As a journalist who happens to adore B&S, the music is the most important thing. I'd rather they wrote fiction or did something akin to the Melody Maker NYC diary than 'succumb' to the interview procedure. Do we actually CARE which is SM's favourite Felt song, or, indeed, what colour socks he wears? Belle Lettres is much more relevant. They have to realise that if they're going to enter into media-esque shenanigans, however, that an attitude reminiscent of the '86 shambling era (or, at least, the way it was portrayed by the NME and suchlike at the time) comes across as less than charming in print/IRC transcript. Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 20:08:15 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 15:08:15 EST Subject: Sinister: skeletons, not menswear in the cupboard, radical politics Message-ID: <6d8ac831.351029b1@aol.com> In a message dated 3/18/98 11:55:29AM, tuffen wrote: << 'the story of the eye' by georges bataille (now, how twisted can a mind get?) >> Twisted? It's hardly a mindfuck on the level of those hoary old pervs Burroughs or Ballard, but what's interesting for me is the reclamation of the word 'cunt' as a sensuous word. Especially in the saucer of milk scene. Thanks to whoever recommended Geek Love, btw. It's engrossing. My book list is probably too predictable but, hey, here goes: Paul Auster - Moon Palace + City Of Glass Ayn Rand - The Fountainhead Jean Cocteau - Les Enfants Terribles Martin Amis - Dead Babies Sussana Moore - In The Cut Stephen Fry - The Liar Theodore Rozenstein - Flicker (I may be wrong about the author's name) Donna Tartt - The Secret History Helen Zahavi - Dirty Weekend Plus the Douglas Coupland books, and Charlie Higson's novels are great too, if totally non-B&S. "We dress cheap, we dress tacky" Stephen. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 20:19:28 1998 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 12:19:28 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Nostalgia ain't what it used to be Message-ID: (No B&S Content) On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 the tall guy who hadn't posted much for ages returned and wrote: >On a completely different (and almost entirely irrelevant) note, has >anyone out there seen Acetone live? They're described in this month's >Select as an "American Belle and Sebastian", and they're supporting >Spiritualised here on Saturday; is it worth turning up early for them? Hmmm, I can't say I see any similarities between the two whatsoever, although no doubt some reviewer out there has also mentioned VU in terms of Acetone because they do in reference to 80% of the music in my collection. Acetone sound a bit country, sort of slow and sad and pretty. They're one of those bands that I fully expected to grab me and drag me gloriously under, but when I listened to them not much happened. It's like how some people can be just perfect for you in a textbook way, except for the fact that you're not at all in love with them. So anyway, I think Acetone is a talented band, and I did mildly enjoy their last s/t release, but then forgot I had it until I read your post. I haven't seen them live, and I don't know you well enough to say what you'd think of them, but just don't go early based on that B & S mention. - Nicole . . . . n i c o l i n a @ d r i z z l e . c o m . . . . i've concluded once again that i'm too fickle for a signature file. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Wed Mar 18 20:34:06 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 14:34:06 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: sinister: a wee bit b&s In-Reply-To: <3510082C.3263@virgin.net> Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Euan Leitch wrote: > Italo Calvino - If on a winter's night a traveler... > Umberto Eco - Foucalts Pendulum > Truman Capote - In Cold Blood > Also, check out George Plimpton's oral history/biography of Truman Capote, in which friends and enemies (nearly all quite famous) recount their adventures with TC. I read it over spring break in the car. Bah! I have to read Great Expectations all week! Yuckyuckyuck! -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 18 21:15:51 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 21:15:51 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: no contiene nada de Belle y Sebastian, lo siento In-Reply-To: <4d8b842a.35102695@aol.com> Message-ID: Right, I'm going to take exception to that I think. Having called the set-up as "dysfunctional" and the transcript as "ludicrous", Essexdog goes on to say: > Re: The quoting of my posting about the "Is Stuart gay or not?" 'issue', > specifically "It's a LARF, innit?" - That was intended to mean that ultimately > the mystique element is very important To who? To you? To Stuart? To the "success" of the band? To "pop"? > and frankly one doesn't really want to > chat to people in a prosaic setting where "oooh I've just spilt crisps on the > floor" takes precedence as a posting over 'fan' questions. It didn't. This was five minutes before the chat started. And I *did* spill my crisps. Sorry I didn't take it "more seriously" like proper journalists do. That's one slagging for the operators of the chat. Who made the band "succumb" to the interview procedure again? They chose it. > Unfortunately they chose the latter. Whatever. That's a slagging for the band. > As a journalist who happens to > adore B&S, the music is the most important thing. I'd rather they wrote > fiction or did something akin to the Melody Maker NYC diary than 'succumb' to > the interview procedure. Do we actually CARE which is SM's favourite Felt > song, or, indeed, what colour socks he wears? And that's a slagging to the people who took part. I don't much if I care about socks but the point is that this was a way for the people who sodding well like their music to ask them what they wanted. It was a chaotic forum and it may have been crap to your ears but some people half liked it - well lots told me so. Someone might care about socks and I personally don't like a journalists telling me what proper questions are. Should we have asked them who their favourite Spice Girl was maybe? No sorry that was Kevin. > They have to realise that if they're going to enter into media-esque > shenanigans, however, that an attitude reminiscent of the '86 shambling era > (or, at least, the way it was portrayed by the NME and suchlike at the time) > comes across as less than charming in print/IRC transcript. They don't have to "realise" anything. Christ it annoys me when a journalist tell bands what they have to do. They're not out to charm you I suspect. Ask them. Honey ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tuffen at xxx.fr Wed Mar 18 22:19:04 1998 From: tuffen at xxx.fr (Hugh Tuffen) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:19:04 GMT Subject: Sinister: another reason to say 'tah' to mark r Message-ID: <199803182219.WAA03965@opgcf5.univ-bpclermont.fr> the guy introduced me to television (the band!) and captain beefheart, both of which turned up on 'out on blue six' a few years back. no, he didn't introduce me to radio. oh, and the flaming groovies (always was a great name forra band. I played those three because they all sound like captain beefheart which in the case of the second one is hardly surprising because it WAS captain beefheart. and if you can't sound like yerself, whocan you sound like? 'i sound like myself and i like myself sound' - what a philosopher i am eh kids) oh shit this is serious, i actually know some of his segways off by heart! from 1993! hugh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kberman at xxx.edu Wed Mar 18 21:31:13 1998 From: kberman at xxx.edu (Keith Berman) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 16:31:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Nostalgia ain't what it used to be In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > >On a completely different (and almost entirely irrelevant) note, has > >anyone out there seen Acetone live? They're described in this month's > >Select as an "American Belle and Sebastian", and they're supporting > >Spiritualised here on Saturday; is it worth turning up early for them? > I've also heard Lullaby for the Working Class described as the "American Belle and Sebastian," though I've yet to hear anything by them keith ****************************************************************************** Keith Berman kberman at mason.gmu.edu http://mason.gmu.edu/~kberman "Keep cool, but don't freeze" --Helmans Mayo ****************************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Wed Mar 18 22:41:37 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:41:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: mmmmmemories Message-ID: <199803182241.RAA12947@Vector.inexpress.net> Hello dollfaces, >Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 11:26:00 +0000 >From: OMUser=Olafia Svansdottir >Subject: Sinister: nbs or no content for that matter, feel free to skip this one > >>Ah, the heady BritPop summer of '95. Happy days! > I was watching bbc prime the other day and I saw a show >called Britpop now- remember? it was in the blome of britpop and had: >Blur(in school uniforms singing country house), Echobelly, Sleeper(oh >they still exist), Elastica,Menswear and Supergrass,,, it took me >back,,, some bands did come out of that area ok, and are still live >and kicking and I dont mean to trash any of them. Aaaaah! I know EXACTLY what you're talking about,oh I must've watched that so many times offa MusiquePlus! When Pulp peform at the end i had every little move Jarvis did memorized (he was so funny when he tried to jump in the air!) Especially when he did that finger twirly thing....geez,he has the long finger! And when Marion came on we all almost fainted from excitement of Jaime Harding and his passionate ways....(same with the 'Sleep' video...purple satin bed with Jaime...oh my it's getting hot in here....) If it hadn't been for BritPop I would probably never be listening to Belle & Sebastian....when I was 10 the only two groups I listened to were INXS and U2... I liked Oasis ok (I still think Cast No Shadow is a lovely song!)..and I bought this magazine call 'Q' for the very first time with somebody I'd never heard of before named Jarvis Cocker....then suddenly,Brit-Mad I went..I bought Cast,Sleeper,Supergrass,Blur,Pulp,Babylon Zoo,Spacehog...I don't listen to all those bands anymore,but I am still Brit,Eire and Scot Mad!It was destined for me...to buy that Q... I remember listening to Great Escape,Pablo Honey and Different Class so much the tape wore out....one particular day I remember,it was a beautiful spring day fresh from the cold winter,and the lake was sparkling and me and my friend took a portable cassette player outside and lied in the still damp ground with the sun warming us,writing letters to Damon Albarn and Jarvis Cocker.... Ahhh Menswe at r...I remember the day my friend got that album and I got Pulp s His 'n Hers..I was so upset at the time,cos i felt like I got the crap album...my opinions now are quite different..I never really liked the members of Menswe at r (too full of themselves!) That Chris was sweet though...but Johnny Dean...he needs a smack..I wanted to beat him up..You know Menswe at r were actually in Seventeen magazine...pages of them in stylish clothes..they were more of a fashion band weren't they? Well anyways,then I discovered Suede and everything seemed to change.. my REAL shame: I fancied Gavin Rossdale. Yes..that..that Potato Man! I kissed the screen and fell to my knees when he came on this one show and played!I bought that 'sexy' Rolling Stone magazine with him on it,where he's biting his finger?...ewwww...I learned quickly though,and used ot torment my friend (who still liked him) by watching that one Jimminy Cricket video of him in slo-mo...he really do look like Jimminy Cricket...I still have the magazine cover on my wall though...you know how some ppl they get a tattoo,and they don't like it,or it got messed up and they could get it fixed but they choose not to? They choose to keep it? The same reason i keep that potato man on my wall (and also cos now i can just laugh at it!) ohmygoodnes,Grease is coming back to the theatres! (...those summmmer niiiihiiights...) sweet cakes and milkshakes, Genevieve boys will be boys! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jwg.wren at xxx.com Wed Mar 18 22:43:51 1998 From: jwg.wren at xxx.com (Jonathan Wren) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 22:43:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Return of the Lovin Spoonful baiter! Message-ID: <35104E27.EDE05457@dial.pipex.com> Warning all Lovin' Spoonful fans, I am back on a permanent basis! Anyways, a few things have happened since I've been away and I've got a couple of questions, too. Whilst walking through the 60s concrete hell of Dundee's Overgate Centre the other week I saw a guy walking through carrying, what I think was a guitar case with Snow Patrol written on it. This was a somewhat surreal experience as I'd just been looking at their single in Virgin. Do they come from Dundee? Also, since I was last here I got my hands and fell in love with the Dog On Wheels E.P. How on earth does Stuart Murdoch make the line `7 to 8 years old, well that's pretty small' sound like the saddest thing on earth?! And The State I Am In is the best song I have ever heard. Ever. It has a beautiful melody, stunning lyrics and is sung by a cracked angel. God, that song got me through some pretty miserable times recently; I used to just sing the opening lines to myself over and over again. Also, Tigermilk. DON'T HIT ME! What is the protocol for swapping stuff etc. in order to get a taped copy of aforementioned album? I thought I could wait until whatever time they choose to re-release it, but each day, that empty gap in my record collection is gnawing away at my soul. All the best, Jon...back for good. -- ***************************************** The unofficial Leyton Orient Mailing List For info on joining mail me at jwg.wren at dial.pipex.com or Chris Uwins at web-orient at clara.net ***************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Parcae at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 00:27:43 1998 From: Parcae at xxx.com (Parcae) Date: Wed, 18 Mar 1998 19:27:43 EST Subject: Sinister: mmmmmemories Message-ID: <51daa975.35106681@aol.com> dear fellow listees, oh, i remember brit pop, circa 1995....it was particularly exciting for a 17 year old american girl who wanted so much to escape from the suburbs. london seemed like such a romantic place. every week i went to this record store that specialized in import singles; the nme was my bible. it was so exciting that this record store received their singles the same day that you all in england could buy yours. so i bought everything!!!!! it was great to be into something that hadn't yet caught on in the states cos bands would come play small shit clubs for 3 or 4 dollars. one weekend was especially wonderful...friday i saw menswe at r open for the charlatans, then rushed over to some other shit club to see gene play to 100 people...then the next night i went to see blur. now, i own too many crap singles, too many adidas trainers and too many track jackets. much love, uyenxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jrbia at xxx.br Thu Mar 19 03:17:42 1998 From: jrbia at xxx.br (Junior/Fabiana) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 00:17:42 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Are they still alive? Message-ID: <199803190326.DAA00125@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> > > got a question. Does anybody know if The High, The La's, > No idea on these... The LA's have split a long time ago (I don't know exactly when, but I suppose it was about hmmm...5 years...maybe?). Someone from The LA's has formed Cast (I'm not sure if it was the guy who's now Cast's singer, John Power). Cast debut album "All Change" was released in 1995, containing the hit "Alright". Their second album was released in 97, but I've never heard it. I only know one song from The LA's, but I'm sure they are much better than Cast. "There She Goes" is a CLASSIC! A band who did a song like THIS could never be bad, it's completely impossible! While Cast...is poor. Not bad, but...nothing special. The guy's voice can sound quite boring after 15 minutes. Fabiana ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Yummycats at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 06:21:06 1998 From: Yummycats at xxx.com (Yummycats) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 01:21:06 EST Subject: Sinister: A Century of Bradys. Message-ID: <2eea3823.3510b954@aol.com> Recently, I made a post about the similarites about melody of the songs, "Century of Fakers," and "There is Love (The Wedding Song)." Believe it or not, I just heard another song with the same melody - "Road To Love" performed by Maureen McCormick and Chris Knight (aka, Marcia and Peter Brady). Anyone who doesn't believe me, just ask and I'll send you a .wav file. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Runegg at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 07:17:27 1998 From: Runegg at xxx.com (Runegg) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 02:17:27 EST Subject: Sinister: yeats and crazy 8s Message-ID: <24de19ee.3510c689@aol.com> Here's a short Yeats poem to write lots of English papers about. You could write a whole life to this poem, actually. Poor Willie, spent his whole life trapped in unrequited love for Maud Gonne. And he still had decades more torture to go when he wrote this poem. I guess it helped him write some great poems, but did he live a half-life? I hope there were "others", as he says, or else he doomed himself. Well, this poem blows my mind nohow. --Ari A Deep-Sworn Vow Others because you did not keep That deep-sworn vow have been friends of mine; Yet always when I look death in the face, When I clamber to the heights of sleep, Or when I grow excited with wine, Suddenly I meet your face. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Thu Mar 19 09:19:57 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:19:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Durham/Klute & Spain Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F89F@RMF1> I'm going up to Durham tonight for my graduaion, I know there's someone on this list from Durham and I just wanted to know if there is anything going on in Klute tonight and this weekend. Thats all soryy t lacked anything at all to do with B&S. But wait. I've had an idea. Is there any chance of Jeepster or anyone else organising a trip to Spain this Summer to B&S in Benicassim, it sounds like a mental festival and I'm gong anyway but it would be cool if something were organised foir the fans. huw Anyone driving up North tonight from London and want to share the petrol? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2253 bytes Desc: not available URL: From keith at xxx.uk Thu Mar 19 09:26:29 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:26:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: no contiene nada de Belle y Sebastian, lo siento Message-ID: <01bd5319$18d60950$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Unfortunately they chose the latter. Whatever. As a journalist who happens to >adore B&S, the music is the most important thing. I'd rather they wrote >fiction or did something akin to the Melody Maker NYC diary than 'succumb' to >the interview procedure. Do we actually CARE which is SM's favourite Felt >song, or, indeed, what colour socks he wears? Belle Lettres is much more >relevant. They have to realise that if they're going to enter into media-esque >shenanigans, however, that an attitude reminiscent of the '86 shambling era >(or, at least, the way it was portrayed by the NME and suchlike at the time) >comes across as less than charming in print/IRC transcript. >Stephen. Well that's a bloody great pity isn't it. Belle and Sebastian and the chat operators both fail to live up to your high standards of conduct. Well you are a journalist I suppose and people really ought to treat you with more respect than others. There were a lot of people from lots of different places, with lots of different interests and there were people of many different ages involved in that chat. If someone wants to ask what colour socks someone wears then that's up to them - or would you suggest that perhaps all questions should be vetted by you personally before anyone's allowed to ask them. I suspect there were some people out there who were quite interested in what their favourite Felt song was. Not everyone's going to care - but that's not the point. Incidentally, what questions did you ask yourself? Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Thu Mar 19 10:28:59 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:28:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Durham/Klute & Spain Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F8A0@RMF1> I'm going up to Durham tonight for my graduaion, I know there's someone on this list from Durham and I just wanted to know if there is anything going on in Klute tonight and this weekend. Thats all soryy t lacked anything at all to do with B&S. But wait. I've had an idea. Is there any chance of Jeepster or anyone else organising a trip to Spain this Summer to B&S in Benicassim, it sounds like a mental festival and I'm gong anyway but it would be cool if something were organised foir the fans. huw Anyone driving up North tonight from London and want to share the petrol? -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2253 bytes Desc: not available URL: From keith at xxx.uk Thu Mar 19 09:52:47 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:52:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nail Varnish Remover Message-ID: <01bd531c$c5a13cb0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >> >On a completely different (and almost entirely irrelevant) note, has >> >anyone out there seen Acetone live? They're described in this month's >> >Select as an "American Belle and Sebastian", and they're supporting >> >Spiritualised here on Saturday; is it worth turning up early for them? I saw Acetone in 1993 in the Cathouse in Glasgow with Oasis and Verve. I must admit, Belle and Sebastian are probably the futhest thing from my mind in memories of them. They weren't very good at all, and were kind of like a prog band with jazz influences at the time, I'm sure they could have changed a lot in that time, but they were abysmal then. I might even go far enough to say that Oasis were better than them, but I don't really think they were. They were rubbish too. Verve were good however, my second favouriite support slot on that night goes to the DJ guy who played not only David Bowie's "Speed of life" but also played the fantastic space-moog tune that features in the party scene in Rollerball. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Jackson at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 13:12:23 1998 From: John.Jackson at xxx.com (Jackson,John) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 13:12:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk record for sale Message-ID: Howdo kids just reading NME over lunch, that shop in Carlisle, Opal Music, is advertising another Tigermilk on vinyl for sale, if anyone wants to try and get it you could email sales at opalmusic.com or ring 0044 1228 599226 ( if you're in the UK then just 01228 599226) Even if it's still available I would have thought you can expect to pay over 200 quid for it..is it worth it? Just out of interest, does anyone know what the band think about people paying this kind of fucking extortionate price for it? Also, how is it that this shop can keep sourcing Tigermilk vinyl copies....can we be sure that there isn't already somewhere bootlegging them? Just a thought. Anyone into the Divine Comedy, they're also advertising Fanfare For The Comic Muse or whatever it is... JJ xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From msearing at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 15:43:19 1998 From: msearing at xxx.com (Megan Searing) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:43:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: chat Message-ID: <3.0.32.19980319104314.00697670@washcp.com> Hello all, Megan, here, finally posting from DC (though I may perhaps win the prize for lurking longer than anyone ever in the history of the list!) Moved to post now only because I feel strongly about the whole chat thing. What strikes me most about the event is that it would not have even been possible 10 (or maybe even 5) years ago. That it did happen and that various people were able to interact with the band at all is, in some ways, pretty amazing. Regardless of whether you have positive/negative feelings about B&S members based on the chat--those are insights you would not have had if it hadn't happened. I didn't witness the entire thing (only peeped over Pam, my officemate's, shoulder) but what I did see definitely added another dimension to my idea of who B&S are, even if (or especially when) they were just playing. And I thought Stuart M's message to the list was very kind and just plain lovely (he seemed to like the Felt questions). So cheers to all who made it happen and I'll shut it there I think. Sorry for such a scary serious paragraph especially for a virgin poster. Not much of an introduction! Though some of you may remember Pam outing me as the non-posting Nimrod a few weeks back, does that count? The DC B&S picnic we're planning (May 9, Mt. Pleasure, oops I mean Pleasant) has received an astounding response, at latest count we'll number about 15! Email us privately for details etc. Thanks if you've read this far! XO, Megan ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Thu Mar 19 10:45:25 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:45:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Durham/Klute & Spain References: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F89F@RMF1> Message-ID: <3510F745.665AE3A4@virgin.net> Huw Jenkins wrote: > Is there > any chance of Jeepster or anyone else organising a trip to Spain this > Summer to B&S in Benicassim, it sounds like a mental festival and I'm > gong anyway but it would be cool if something were organised foir the > fans. ummm, just hoping that people did actually read my mail to the list, saying that B&S are NOT going to play the Benicassim festival this September ... ho hum ... are my mails really this boring? byebye, Katrina. ******************************************************************** jeepster recordings ltd. - jeepster.uk at virgin.net 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn ph - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Thu Mar 19 15:36:58 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:36:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Evening Session & B&S Message-ID: <35113B9A.8446D24D@virgin.net> Hello all, to all those who are regular evening session listeners, you probably know that the show is going out on tour. it starts in glasgie, and they are inviting local bands to go along and "busk on the bus". so, there will be a couple of B&S members performing an acoustic track, which will be aired next monday 23rd march during the evening session. thought you may be interested ... that's it! bye, Katrina. ******************************************************************** jeepster recordings ltd. - jeepster.uk at virgin.net 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn ph - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ronbarrett at xxx.ie Thu Mar 19 15:40:00 1998 From: ronbarrett at xxx.ie (Barrett R) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:40 +0100 (CET) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk record for sale Message-ID: <01IUUXYABTSE00QA3G@vms.eurokom.ie> Anyone who wants a tape of the Divine Comedy's "Fanfare.." can mail me and I'll sort them out. It's definitely not worth paying wads of cash for - all the really good stuff is freely available ---------- From: Jackson,John To: bbrennan; ronbarrett; sinister Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk record for sale Date: 19 March 1998 14:45 Howdo kids just reading NME over lunch, that shop in Carlisle, Opal Music, is advertising another Tigermilk on vinyl for sale, if anyone wants to try and get it you could email sales at opalmusic.com or ring 0044 1228 599226 ( if you're in the UK then just 01228 599226) Even if it's still available I would have thought you can expect to pay over 200 quid for it..is it worth it? Just out of interest, does anyone know what the band think about people paying this kind of fucking extortionate price for it? Also, how is it that this shop can keep sourcing Tigermilk vinyl copies....can we be sure that there isn't already somewhere bootlegging them? Just a thought. Anyone into the Divine Comedy, they're also advertising Fanfare For The Comic Muse or whatever it is... JJ xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 16:54:38 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:54:38 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Sma Shits Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Essexdog5 wrote: > (including "What's your favourite Spice Girl?" - and before anyone gets sarky > on my 'ass', Smash Hits turned me down for a job, OK?). I never heard back from them :( I fancied myself as a bit of a music hack, so I wrote some singles reviews that I though were pretty good. Stuff like "Caramba! The Spiceys are back, and this time they've been shopping in the latino-beats aisle of the great pop supermarket". I've just checked and I still have them... see http://www.cee.hw.ac.uk/~ceerab/about/music/smashhits.html (I'm particularly proud of that Portishead review "If you took the James Bond theme tune and bunged it through a washing machine at a high temperature, it would probably come out like this" indeed!) On Wed, 18 Mar 1998, Johnston, John CT wrote: [Mark'n'Lard] > And for lovers of their comedy items there are some great websites. Tim Stainthorpe's site is a chapel to their brilliance. http://www.maingate.demon.co.uk Oh, and yer Yatsura chaps were dead good last night. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Dance To The Cheesecake! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From vlass at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 16:46:12 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 11:46:12 -0500 Subject: Sinister: get me away from here, im dying Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980319164612.0066d51c@mail.interlog.com> >From: Euan Leitch >Did you know that last summer, while we barely heard B&S on the radio, >an Athens station played them all the time? I mean, Greece? How? what station is this?! i was in greece for all of july last year, but i wasnt aware of b&s then.. i'm also going there again this summer from june 18th to august 8th - anyone going to be there then? picnic in athens? oh, and what about a picnic in toronto - anyone interested? > >Books to reed: >Italo Calvino - If on a winter's night a traveler... italo calvino is wonderful.. i second the nomination.. >How have these book recommendations carried on without someone >complaining? hehe, i guess i started this when i asked for suggestions about b&s books.. well, i started -the secret history- last night, i have some john cheever and i have -geek love- on hold at the library. i'm putting all the books together into one big list that i'll print out and keep in my wallet for when i happen to be at the library.. if you want to see the list so far, just email me. why complain? i find it interesting. here's are recommendations from me: -weetzie bat- and its counterparts by francesca lia block -girl- by blake nelson -mr.blue- by jacques poulin. anyone feel free to write me and cheer me up. currently my father is home for a visit and i feel like i am slowly dying here in my house. i can't even escape to the outside because it's too grey and ugly. sigh. teri xoxo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 17:23:17 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:23:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: re: opening bands & bad records Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0310F9F5@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Paige said: <> No really?? I saw Kenickie a year ago and thought they were brilliant... full of energy, really sassy and adorable and their between-song banter with the crowd was, as they say, "hella funny". BUT THEN AGAIN.... <> ... this is coming from someone (erm, me) who had not one, but *two* Soup Dragons tapes... that's punishable by a ticket straight to Hell, isn't it am I the only one who was disappointed by "The Secret History"??? plus the books I've read by Amis and Coupland... But I'll vouch for "In cold blood"'s brilliance. tchau queridos taralula ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ics6jdc at xxx.UK Thu Mar 19 17:34:40 1998 From: ics6jdc at xxx.UK (Cairns) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:34:40 GMT Subject: Sinister: like the corners of my mind Message-ID: Lovely genevieve wrote >....geez,he has the long finger! That sounds horribly like one of those conversational snippets you overhear when the underground is packed with exchange students. >...I don't listen to all those bands anymore,but I am still Brit, Eire and Scot Mad! Why "Eire"? I'm curious. No, really, I am. I can understand "Brit", (weren't we all in that crazy summer? Powder supporting Verve. Donna Matthews in armless tee-shirts. Jarv on 'Pop Quiz'), and "Scot" just about sums up my life, but why "Eire". Tell me it's not The Corrs, please. >It was destined for me...to buy that Q... D'you think it would be cruel of me to giggle at the notion of Q magazine reaching out and touching people's lives around the world? Probably. >ohmygoodnes,Grease is coming back to the theatres! >(...those summmmer niiiihiiights...) Awwwww. Bless. A girl after my own heart. My kid brother's tomboy friend Sarah knows all the words to 'Grease' (as well as to 'Dirty Dancing'), and once paraded round his birthday party innocently singing a paean to a "real pussy wagon". I can't be the only one to have cringed slightly at the whole IRC affair. Like most devotee/pop star get-togethers, it felt slightly forced, and not a little embarrassing, for both sides. It's much better to have an idealised picture of your pop stars in your head, and to run with it for as long as you can, than to find out what they're really like. That's not to say B&S aren't utter sweeties, but I kinda preferred it when all I had to go on were the sleevenotes, and the little pictures on the back of 'Tigermilk'. love, Joseph "Only the truly shallow do not judge by appearances" Robinson in Space ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pasty at xxx.com Fri Mar 20 02:23:36 1998 From: pasty at xxx.com (JOSEPH FOSTER) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:23:36 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Word of warning Message-ID: <3511D328.657D@geocities.com> >John wrote the following; >Sorry no B&S here. Just wanted to ask a favour. I might be moving to >London and wondered whether any kind soul might enlighten me on a decent >area to live. Any comments off the list gratefully appreciated. Don't move to Leyton. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From daeril at xxx.es Thu Mar 19 18:41:01 1998 From: daeril at xxx.es (Alberto Perez) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:41:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: get me away from here, im dying References: <1.5.4.32.19980319164612.0066d51c@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: <351166BD.4193A912@redestb.es> vlass at interlog.com wrote: > >From: Euan Leitch > >Did you know that last summer, while we barely heard B&S on the radio, > >an Athens station played them all the time? I mean, Greece? How? > > what station is this?! i was in greece for all of july last year, but i > wasnt aware of b&s then.. i'm also going there again this summer from june > 18th to august 8th - anyone going to be there then? picnic in athens? oh, > and what about a picnic in toronto - anyone interested? > > > > >Books to reed: > >Italo Calvino - If on a winter's night a traveler... > italo calvino is wonderful.. i second the nomination.. Yes! Me too! I suggest "El Caballero Inexistente". > > > >How have these book recommendations carried on without someone > >complaining? > hehe, i guess i started this when i asked for suggestions about b&s books.. > well, i started -the secret history- last night, i have some john cheever > and i have -geek love- on hold at the library. i'm putting all the books > together into one big list that i'll print out and keep in my wallet for > when i happen to be at the library.. if you want to see the list so far, > just email me. why complain? i find it interesting. > here's are recommendations from me: > -weetzie bat- and its counterparts by francesca lia block > -girl- by blake nelson > -mr.blue- by jacques poulin. > > anyone feel free to write me and cheer me up. currently my father is home > for a visit and i feel like i am slowly dying here in my house. i can't even > escape to the outside because it's too grey and ugly. sigh. > > teri xoxo > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pasty at xxx.com Fri Mar 20 02:55:46 1998 From: pasty at xxx.com (JOSEPH FOSTER) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 18:55:46 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re:Lullaby For The Working Classes Message-ID: <3511DA46.723E@geocities.com> I wouldn't call them the American B&S, but they are worth checking out, try the latest LP, 'I never asked for the light', I think it is called, it has some fantastic songs on, but be warned, it may be country. Does anyone else admit to falling in love with 'Beyond the sun', by the late Billy Mackenzie. (There's a B&S link in there, there simply must be). Some days I think that it may be better than IYFS. I reccomend it to every last one of you with a passion. Dodgy Records? OK Here goes..... .... Cast, Ocean colour scene, shed seven, heave, king prawn, korn, napalm death, levellers, coalesce....... .....I could go on and on, that King Prawn one is really awful, I listened to half of the a side, yuck. Could someone enlighten me as to a band whats called 'loop'? i bought a loop T-shirt once, not knowing about any band. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ByTheSea6 at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 19:10:30 1998 From: ByTheSea6 at xxx.com (ByTheSea6) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:10:30 EST Subject: Sinister: Billy MacKenzie (was Lullaby FTWC) Message-ID: <30db2a57.35116da8@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-19 14:05:18 EST, pasty at geocities.com writes: << Does anyone else admit to falling in love with 'Beyond the sun', by the late Billy Mackenzie. (There's a B&S link in there, there simply must be). Some days I think that it may be better than IYFS. I reccomend it to every last one of you with a passion. >> One of the more sadly beautiful records of the past few years. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jwg.wren at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 19:12:43 1998 From: jwg.wren at xxx.com (Jonathan Wren) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:12:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Word of warning References: <3511D328.657D@geocities.com> Message-ID: <35116E2A.BF4CF05A@dial.pipex.com> JOSEPH FOSTER wrote: > >John wrote the following; > > >Sorry no B&S here. Just wanted to ask a favour. I might be moving to > >London and wondered whether any kind soul might enlighten me on a decent > >area to live. Any comments off the list gratefully appreciated. > > Don't move to Leyton. But why not, when you have the chance to watcht the mighty O's? ;-) (See sig) Oh, areas of London. Not Ilford. Don't go there. Stay *well* away! Boring as fuck. Notting Hill always seems a pretty cool kind of place to be. All the best, Jon -- ***************************************** The unofficial Leyton Orient Mailing List For info on joining mail me at jwg.wren at dial.pipex.com or Chris Uwins at web-orient at clara.net ***************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MRissb7989 at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 19:37:25 1998 From: MRissb7989 at xxx.com (MRissb7989) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 14:37:25 EST Subject: Sinister: A dead good book Message-ID: <92f9a2ce.351173f7@aol.com> A very good friend of mine from the states has just sent me the most marvellous book in the world ever. It's called Griffin and Sabine by Nick Bantock, and it's the story of a post card artist in England who gets post cards from a mysterious woman on a tropical island...basically the book's only a few pages long as it is all told on postcards and letters...it is wonderful because: The artwork is divine, a real joy to look at The book is about long distance friendships (and romances) developing via letters, quite a *sinister* thing to do I guess It really feels like you're reading other people's mail, always a slightly perverse thrill Apologies if this is old news, especially to US listees, but it really did blow my mind, and I've never seen it in this country. And I feel happy today because the sun was shining, and I had my sunroof open in the car, blasting out B&S as I sped along...bliss.. Gesundheit Risso x ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Fri Mar 20 01:52:15 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:52:15 -0800 Subject: Sinister: books and records Message-ID: <3511CB96.7C46@earthlink.net> hey again. i had to write in about all these rquested books and records. i read "geek love" a couple years back, and it is good. i have a friend who subscribes to entertainment weekly, and he told me he read the movie rights had been purchased to make a movie out of it. douglas coupland : the only book i ever read from him that i liked was "life after god". i hated "generation x" and "shampoo planet". never read the microsoft one. i think i said it before, but you can never go wrong with some richard brautigan. oh, and i was in the barnes and noble yesterday flipping nonchalantly through the new book by marilyn manson. don't ask me why, cause i don't know. but parts of it were hilarious. there was this one section called "how to tell if you're gay" and it said that it was just for men because all women, by nature, are gay. but the first two (out of about 45) were as follows: 1. if you've ever had someone elses's sperm on you 2. if you've ever owned a smiths album and it went on and on and about fifteen or so of the how to tell's involved the smiths or morrissey. i guess it's time for me to recognize my true feelings. and records: for those country types out there..... steve earle's new album "el corazon" is really good. lambchop acetone aren't that good and they aren't that country either and they are nothing like b&s johnny cash, even though i know it's popular to like him nowadays the flying burrito bros. w/ gram parsons in it ricky nelson lee hazlewood there's more, but i can't think right now. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Thu Mar 19 21:11:27 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:11:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Begbie Once More References: Message-ID: <351189FF.1016@seahouses.u-net.com> Rod Begbie spurted: > > (I'm particularly proud of that Portishead review "If you took the James > Bond theme tune and bunged it through a washing machine at a high > temperature, it would probably come out like this" indeed!) > Can someone explain this to me? Why is he proud of this? Why would hot water make a Bond Theme into a Portishead song? JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Mar 19 19:55:56 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 19:55:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: chat and Offspring and books and britpop Message-ID: um, hello? Sum-up...Paul and Keith vs Stephen, oh how nice, books, and embarrasing records and britpop. YUP, its time, i'm going to write again! the chat. well, *i* wanted to know some stuff about the band, i love them so much, i thought it was so exciting an oppotunity to talk to B&S proper, oh so sue me for my uncoolness. and then there were people saying some really....i mean, OK for a few mins it was funny, but for the rest, it just got pointless, COULDN'T YOU TELL from Stu D's reaction hey? thing is, i wouldn't be so arsed if i didn't love them so much. its just that....sod it. i don't think that if you wanted, which i did, a relatvly civilised chat about B&S, not wanking or socks or whatever it was, which lets face it could be chatted about at ANY time, that it went that well. ta da. then again, twas better than nowt, and i got a ew decent answers, which was groovey. And i am not a "real" journo either so Ner. Books. OK : Sybil - flora Rheter Schrieber Charlie and the chocolate factory/great glass elevator - Roald Dahl Age Of Reason - Mr Sartre Herzog - Mr Saul Bellow THe Dice Man - Luke Rhinehart, but NOT the sequel, biggest pile of turd ever written methinks Britpoop. Geez, i remeber going nutty when ratarsed to the Pop tunes of Pulp at V96....ooh what jolly fun..... but then again, sorry kids, i went straight from knwing nothing, to falling in love with whatever scene was currently hip in the music press. i was a c96 kid, with the hairclips and all, i still like Bis so NER! that was cool actually, i still have a bit of a soft spot for the Bis-sters. yes indeed. she apparently has a good zine, i keep meaning to buy it one day, but i always forget damn. The thing is, i got LOADS of energy and inspiration from it, which is more than i can spot in any current goings, or possibly *not* goings on. Then I am afraid, I found the manics history, and bcame intnsley intense from the first listen of Gold Against the soul and the Holy Bible....sigh, i stil cry about the fact that the VITALITY i see in pictures had disappreared - or at least hidden itself so much. all times when i felt so lost and alone in high school, thinking wwhat a freak i was, and there would have been the manics there....if only i knew.....but i didn't. anyway, i found another B&S convert today. i tell my chum Katie evryday about how good the spanking hot fandoobydastic band that are B&S, and she went into HMV, and they were playing this song she thought was GREAT. so she checked it, and came back saying... "OH WOW, BELLE and SEBASTIAN are great! i dunno what song but it had a red cover...." (sarah thinks 'If yer feeling sinister! ra!) "Somehow i thought they'd be more trashy, more rock...." now really, do i give that impression off? ok, so i sang an Offspring song, just that once....or twice...not like i have any of their songs... "i'm not a trendy asshole i do what i want"....DAMN! doing it again! no, i am not that really into YA YA YAAAA rock, but i do find it great ujst to thrash about to. pooonk rawk has N, er..G! and B&S are nice and lovely.....S/Lized are magical...ELO are sound man, ABC are fandiddlydoodyaceyrooney, and los manicos are awesome, man. dont arse arguing, else i will just swamp this lists with intensely intense rants EVERYDAY! (instead of every OTHER day!) oh heee hee....not. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! Look! it's frampton! He's coming aliiiiive! http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Thu Mar 19 21:50:29 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 15:50:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: A dead good book In-Reply-To: <92f9a2ce.351173f7@aol.com> Message-ID: > A very good friend of mine from the states has just sent me the most > marvellous book in the world ever. It's called Griffin and Sabine by Nick > Bantock, and it's the story of a post card artist in England who gets post > cards from a mysterious woman on a tropical island...basically the book's only > a few pages long as it is all told on postcards and letters... Oh yes, the Griffin and Sabine books are beautiful!! I assume you got the first book of the trilogy; I have no idea what the other two books' official titles are, but they come in a boxed set. I love the mysterious and delicious ending of the last book where... Oh, I won't ruin it for you. -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sinister at xxx.net Thu Mar 19 21:57:39 1998 From: owner-sinister at xxx.net (owner-sinister at xxx.net) Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:57:39 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199803192157.VAA03235@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> From CrimsonKing at xxx.net Fri Mar 20 02:42:45 1998 From: CrimsonKing at xxx.net (Shaft) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:42:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Britpop and more Message-ID: <19980320024243.AAA927@LOCALNAME> I still listen to "Different Class" by Pulp all of the time, and I still think it's one of the 10 best CDs of the '90s. I nearly peed my pants when I read on a flyer at Tower that they have a new CD coming out March 31!!! I have a Britpop question that maybe somebody out there can answer; Rodney on the ROQ a few months ago played a new Sleeper song and said that a new CD named "Pleased To Meet You" was going to be released stateside imminently, yet to this day nobody I ask seems to know about it. Where is it? Did it get shelved in the states due to lack of interest? In B&S related material, I'm pleased to announce that I have made *three* converts in the past two months. At this pace, and with some help from other SoCal fans, maybe we can get enough interest to warrant a Los Angeles appearance! My favorite book that everybody should read; "To Kill A Mockingbird" by Harper Lee. Take Care- Andy #:-) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Fri Mar 20 10:20:56 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:20:56 -0800 Subject: Sinister: let's go out to the lobby Message-ID: <35124308.54C0@earthlink.net> hey. that last post was a forwarded message by the way. someone wanted to reply to the list and sent it to me by mistake. does anyone know anything about this: Motion Picture "Every Last Romance" PS, US Sparse guitar, crooning sleepy-boy vox, dreamy cello undertones, waltzing rhythms, lotsa atmosphere. Think Felt, Belle & Sebastian.Recommended! WordsOnMusic-001 CD 10.25 i found it on the parasol site while trying to find a copy of that felt tribute album. speaking of that album...does anyone have it? and maybe would want to tell me who's on it and what songs they do and maybe if they want to sell it. -brad ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From parachute at xxx.net Fri Mar 20 10:13:32 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (bradford) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 02:13:32 -0800 Subject: Sinister: books and records Message-ID: <3512414C.509C@earthlink.net> An embedded message was scrubbed... From: CA1jawa Subject: Re: Sinister: books and records Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 20:12:22 EST Size: 2222 URL: From jheid at xxx.edu Fri Mar 20 06:34:08 1998 From: jheid at xxx.edu (Jason Heid) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 00:34:08 -0600 Subject: Sinister: books and records References: <3512414C.509C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <35120DE0.10074733@trinity.edu> > More importantly: I too only liked Coupland's "Life After God" Here are a > few of my favorites: Tom Robbins- "Still Life With Woodpecker > Milan Kundera- "Slowness" The Unbearable Lightness of Being will change your life everyone read it. twice. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Fri Mar 20 12:26:35 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 20 Mar 98 12:26:35 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk recommended for investors/Yeats Message-ID: <9803201725.AA6516@mail.irlgov.ie> 1. From today's Irish Times Business (!) Section, in an article about collecting vinyl: "Not many people have heard about a new Scottish band called Belle and Sebastian who only formed two years ago and have never troubled the charts or _Top of the Pops_ but because they're deemed 'artistically significant' by music journalists and the _cognoscenti_, Belle and Sebastian's debut album two years ago, called _TIger Milk_, of which only 500 copies were pressed up, is now passing hands for more than �200. From �15 to �200 in two years, you could be naming your own price in 10 years time." The Irish Times Entertainment section also gave IYFS a very good review when it came out. But I'm not forgetting that the Sports Section tipped Dun Belle recently (which seemed to me to be a message to the _cognoscenti_), leading to a depletion of my disposable income that week. 2. Runegg Here's a short Yeats poem.. Poor Willie, spent his whole life >trapped in unrequited love for Maud Gonne... I hope there were "others", as he says, >or else he doomed himself. >A Deep-Sworn Vow >Others because you did not keep >That deep-sworn vow have been friends of mine; Yes, there were quite a few "others". The first seems to have been Olivia Shakespear, when Yeats was 31. According to Samuel Levenson's biography of Maud Gonne, "Olivia was everything a man could want in a woman. But Yeats's nervous excitement was so great during her first two visits that he was impotent". He felt it was "best to sit over out tea and talk". (Maybe he had been indulging in that "temperance tea" that Mr Hopkins of this list found so enervating). Anyway, as Yeats put it, "My nervousness did not return again and we had many happy days." So that's alright then, although he did remain obsessed with Maud and I have a hunch that it was not quite unrequited. Martin C. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 20 12:39:35 1998 From: C.Browning-95 at xxx.uk (C Browning) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:39:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: hello, i must be going... Message-ID: well thats me done for a term. its been an interesting mailing list and i shall miss all these reccomendations of good films, good books and good music. oh and occasional discussions of belle and sebastian as well. you're a top bunch of people and even though at times the sheer wealth of e.mails has caused my poor ickle pooter to crash its always been worth reading them all. have a fab easter. i'll be popping back every so often to finish my final year project so will occasionally check the archive to see if nything interestings going on. see ya chris ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From grthom at xxx.uk Fri Mar 20 12:59:24 1998 From: grthom at xxx.uk (G R Thomas) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:59:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Nostalgia ain't what it used to be Message-ID: --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 21:57:45 +0000 (GMT) From: G R Thomas Subject: Re: Sinister: Nostalgia ain't what it used to be Sender: G R Thomas To: Stuart Gardiner Cc: Belle and Sebastian Mailing List Reply-To: grthom at essex.ac.uk Message-ID: On Wed, 18 Mar 1998 17:11:17 +0000 (GMT) Stuart Gardiner wrote: >> I really got into indie music purely thanks to the Radcliffe graveyard > shift show. I remember listening to the first ever show he did on Radio 1 > (and even a few of the shows he did on Radio 5 on Wednesday evenings - Hit > The North I think they were called) and thinking, yeah, it's really funny, > shame about the music. This was in a period of my life when my taste > wasn't very developed (Confession time: forget Menswear, anyone remember > the London Boys?!?) and Radcliffe's music seemed too obscure. But as time > went on, and I listened more and more, I came to love the music as much as > the comedy, and I haven't looked back since. The man is indeed a genius. > And that's where I first heard B&S... And I'm exacyly the same. Not about the London Boys bit (yeah, I do remember them), but all the rest. I first started to listen to Mark and Lard in the summer of '96, mainly so it was so rib-ticklingly funny. But I started listening more to the music, and really started to get into it. All my 'indie' type taste spring from listening to Mark and Marc, as well as my love of poets like Ian Macmillan and the Bard of Marsden, Simon Armitage. I have M+M to thank for B+S ('Judy' was the first track I heard), Kenickie, MSP etc etc. I stil listen to the few shows I have taped, including the whole of the last week. Oh, how we cried on that last night.... Oh, well, they're still about, if only on t'afternons. See ya, GIDEONxxxxx "Oooh yeah, baby" FAT HARRY WHITE --- End Forwarded Message --- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From grthom at xxx.uk Fri Mar 20 13:12:48 1998 From: grthom at xxx.uk (G R Thomas) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:12:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I Really should be going... Message-ID: --- Begin Forwarded Message --- Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:08:26 +0000 (GMT) From: G R Thomas Subject: I Really should be going... Sender: G R Thomas To: Sinister at ph.ed.ac.uk Cc: kenickie at coolist.com Reply-To: grthom at essex.ac.uk Message-ID: Well, it's about that time again... Another term has past, another great term for the list, and it's time for me to go home, having finished uni 'till April 20th. This of course means no e-mail access so I'm also unsubscribing as of today. If anyone needs/wants to contact me (J.B./Mylene/anyone else) then you know the address. Actually, I'll mail you both privately. Sorry list!... Anyway, time to go, eagerly awaiting the new singles/LPs as we all are, Cheers, and keep on keeping on, See ya all April, GIDEONxxxx "Make your on kind of music, Sing your own special song, Make your own kind of music, Even if nobody else sings along..." Kyle Daydream --- End Forwarded Message --- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From initgrl at xxx.org Fri Mar 20 13:16:33 1998 From: initgrl at xxx.org (jj heldmann) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 08:16:33 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: A dead good book In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Nick Bantock's books are all beautiful. For christmas, my mom got me "The Forgetting Room" and it is as much a work of art as the Griffin and Sabine series. All of his books (and the Griffin and Sabine box set) are available at www.amazon.com - I don't know what their shipping rates for overseas though. xo jj On Thu, 19 Mar 1998, Schaffenberger wrote: > > > A very good friend of mine from the states has just sent me the most > > marvellous book in the world ever. It's called Griffin and Sabine by Nick > > Bantock, and it's the story of a post card artist in England who gets post > > cards from a mysterious woman on a tropical island...basically the book's only > > a few pages long as it is all told on postcards and letters... > > > Oh yes, the Griffin and Sabine books are beautiful!! I assume you got > the first book of the trilogy; I have no idea what the other two books' > official titles are, but they come in a boxed set. I love the mysterious > and delicious ending of the last book where... Oh, I won't ruin it for you. > > -Kristen > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ******************************************** fantastic po box 4492 ann arbor mi 48106 usa www.mindspring.com/~initialgirl/fantastic ******************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From grthom at xxx.uk Fri Mar 20 13:08:26 1998 From: grthom at xxx.uk (G R Thomas) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:08:26 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I Really should be going... Message-ID: Well, it's about that time again... Another term has past, another great term for the list, and it's time for me to go home, having finished uni 'till April 20th. This of course means no e-mail access so I'm also unsubscribing as of today. If anyone needs/wants to contact me (J.B./Mylene/anyone else) then you know the address. Actually, I'll mail you both privately. Sorry list!... Anyway, time to go, eagerly awaiting the new singles/LPs as we all are, Cheers, and keep on keeping on, See ya all April, GIDEONxxxx "Make your on kind of music, Sing your own special song, Make your own kind of music, Even if nobody else sings along..." Kyle Daydream ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 96a10193 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 20 13:59:13 1998 From: 96a10193 at xxx.uk (KATE ANDERSON) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:59:13 GMT Subject: Sinister: books and records In-Reply-To: <35120DE0.10074733@trinity.edu> Message-ID: a history of the world in 10 1/2 chapters - julian barnes the phantom tolbooth - norton juster ed the happy clown (comic book)- chester brown i'm sure i'll be able to think of more.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From prosella at xxx.com Fri Mar 20 14:50:46 1998 From: prosella at xxx.com (Paige Rosella) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 09:50:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Bookly Question Message-ID: <01BD53E5.A8920540@n141.natureny.com> Just wondering if anyone out there has read the new Ted Hughes poetry collection, Birthday Letters? I want to read it (because didn't we *all* have that only-Sylvia-understands-my-pain phase?), but I'm not sure if I want to shell out the $20 or so dollars to buy it. As for Douglas Coupland, I have loved every one of his books except the Deadhead one. I recently reread Microserfs, and cried at the ending all over again. That it made me cry ranks it right up there with The Incredible Journey and The Velveteen Rabbit - but no animals die or are in peril in Microserfs. Thinking martini thoughts, Paige ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Fri Mar 20 10:57:29 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:57:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Modern Rock Song & Birthday stuff ... References: <199803200414.WAA51616@mail1.doit.wisc.edu> Message-ID: <35124B99.E88C17DF@virgin.net> Jennifer Phillips-Bacher wrote: > Hi Katrina -- > I don't know if this has ever been brought up on the Sinister list, but a > certain web shopping store (www.ab-cd.com) is listing B & S Modern Rock > Song as "currently available" (as of 12/5/97). They list the cdep > (JPRCDS004) and 7 inch vinyl (JPR004)...I thought this was kind of strange > considering that it has not yet been released. Hi again everyone ... just to remind anyone that is panicking that this a) not true and b) can't be possible, considering that snow patrol's last single was JPRCDS004 ... one of these days these on-line shops are going to get it right! oh-ho-ho ... :) it's listees birthday time coming up shortly too ... two of our best loved scribes - the one and only tag (aka saint lucy, robert mctaggart, sex boy etc. etc.) has his birthday next wednesday 25th march and the indescribably lovely susannah (aka astral, susie, "can i just say something" wondergirl ) has her birthday monday week on the 30th march. i think there's going to be a party party sometime next week in london ... if you fancy joining us, mail me for details! okey dokey .. i'm off ... cheers, Katrina. (p.s. is my sig file really crap?) ******************************************************************** jeepster recordings ltd. - jeepster.uk at virgin.net 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn ph - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk Fri Mar 20 14:57:54 1998 From: EDAPLYNR3N00297 at xxx.uk (ELIZABETH DAPLYN) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 14:57:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the Spring Message-ID: Speak gently, Spring, and make no sudden sound, For in my windy valley yesterday I found New born foxes squirming on the ground - Speak gently. Walk softly, March, forbear the bitter blow. Her feet within a trap, but blood upon the snow, The four little foxes saw their mother go - Walk softly. Go lightly, Spring, oh give them no alarm; As I covered them with boughs to shelter them from harm, The thin blue foxes suckled at my arm - Go lightly. Step softly, March, with your rampant hurricane; Nuzzling one another and whimpering with pain, The new little foxes are shivering in the rain - Step softly. Lew Sarett ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Fri Mar 20 15:02:57 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 10:02:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Junk Message-ID: <199803201006_MC2-376F-475F@compuserve.com> A few random thoughts: Good to see Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead cropping up on a reading list. That and Atlas Shrugged are truly two of the most monumental books ever written. It always amazes me that they're so little known over here in the UK. The phrase The American Belle and Sebastian keeps appearing. I don't think such a concept is possible. I mean, I worship the USA in all her glory n' all, but nothing so special could ever come out of there. I too saw Acetone when they played with the Verve and Oasis, at the Riverside in Newcastle. They were totally mediocre. I chose to talk to a balding friend called Kevin instead of listen to the fledgling Gallagher's. The Verve blew the power out half way through their set, which was fun. I did manage to see the Oasis gig at the Riverside the following year, when they started beating the crap out of an audience member who'd had the audacity to punch Noel. Apart from the grotesque violence involved, it was an incredible concert. All 5 songs of it. Debbie's point about American Psycho is spot on. It's the foulest, most unpleasant, sordid piece of shit I've ever read and should not be taken lightly. I started reading it in Spain last autumn and it almost ruined my holiday, it was so gross. Is it politically incorrect to be sensitive like that? Lullaby for the Working Class are OK. I got their recent CD, but haven't listened to it a great deal. It's just not that compelling. Hopkirk and Lee, on the other hand, are growing on me every day. Those four songs are just wonderful. I urge all of you to get hold of a copy. Believe me, it really is gorgeous. My favourite 10 songs of all time, just for the sake of it: Rock and Roll Friend - Go Betweens The Last Kiss - J Frank Wilson Gone til November - Wyclef Sowing Seeds - JAMC Perfume - Paris Angels Mr Tambourine Man - The Byrds Nobody Loves Us - Morrissey Rain - Martin Stephenson and the Daintees Modern Rock Song - BandS She's A Real Good Time - East River Pipe Have a lovely weekend, Keegan for Chairman DAVID ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pedro-a-rodrigues at xxx.pt Fri Mar 20 15:54:01 1998 From: pedro-a-rodrigues at xxx.pt (Pedro Rodrigues (Pedro A Rodrigues)) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:54:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Who's who in B&S ? Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From vlass at xxx.com Fri Mar 20 16:16:19 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:16:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ah, you know - stuff Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980320161619.00664414@mail.interlog.com> okay: >From: MRissb7989 >Subject: Sinister: A dead good book >>A very good friend of mine from the states has just sent me the most >marvellous book in the world ever. It's called Griffin and Sabine by Nick >Bantock YES!! These books are beautiful. I just read the 2nd in the trilogy - Sabine's Notebook, and i can't wait to read the third. > bradford >douglas coupland : the only book i ever read from him that i liked was >"life after god". i hated "generation x" and "shampoo planet". never >read the microsoft one. i very much agree.. life after god was great (ink polaroid-ish, don't you think?) but generation x was too.. hmm.. hip for me. microserfs is a good mr.coupland book too, although the ending was kind of weak.. i think.. >From: Sarah > i still have a bit of a soft spot for the >Bis-sters. yes indeed. she apparently has a good zine, i keep meaning to >buy it one day, but i always forget damn. yes, manda rin's zine, -funky spunk-, is wonderful. i have the issue with the stereolab interview.. there's no price on it, but be sure to send postage. write to: Amanda PO BOX 3821 Glasgow Scotland G46 6JY . i traded for my issue (btw, any zine writers looking to trade, please email me! i write a zine called -melt the snow- and i would love to hear from you. non-zine writers are also very much appreciated) one more thing.. i don't know very much about country music, but if you're interested, you should check out neko case, who is the drummer for the vancouver band maow. she has a solo record out on mint records called -the virginian- and it features her doing covers of country songs. i've only heard her version of bowling green (sp?) and it's good. she's received favourable reviews for this record too. ummmm, that's it teri xoxo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Fri Mar 20 16:58:35 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 11:58:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Who's who Message-ID: <199803201202_MC2-376F-552D@compuserve.com> In response to Pedro's question about band members: Stuart M: words, singing (mostly), guitars, other little things Stevie: guitars, occasional voice (but so lovely!), remembering lyrics. Did Stevie write Seymour Stein? Chris: keyboards, piano, organs, buckets Isobel: cello, bass (rare), vocals (timid) Stuart D: bass, funk, jazz, spoken word stuff Sarah: violin, little blowy things, tambourines, heartstrings Richard: drums and geniality Mick: trumpets and horn All of the band are quite beautiful to look at, and regularly perform as models in catwalk shows in Milan. Hope that's helpful DAVID ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From LeslieH at xxx.COM Fri Mar 20 17:29:29 1998 From: LeslieH at xxx.COM (Lesley Higgins) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 12:29:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: Sinister Bookly Question Message-ID: <01F2E5A1F9BBD01186420000C0DBCFDB0E9B8C@NTMIS> Paige wrote 3/20: Just wondering if anyone out there has red the new Ted Hughes poetry collection Birthday Letters? Saw a New Yorker cartoon this morning on my way to work: Two More Poems from Ted Hughes I one new a lady from mass who was sometimes a pain in the ass every damn comma was really high drama but she was really a talented lass Sylvia Plath was my mate she and I went on a date she learned how to cook then published a book and the rest is all up for debate Cheeky, I know, I mean no offense to any fans out there. Ta, Lesley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Andrewnic at xxx.com Fri Mar 20 18:38:51 1998 From: Andrewnic at xxx.com (Andrewnic) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 13:38:51 EST Subject: Sinister: Who's who Message-ID: In a message dated 20/03/1998 17:11:49 GMT, you write: << Richard: drums and geniality >> Ha ha. When I first read this I thought it said genitalia. Ha ha ha. Aha ha. Ha. Long week. Thank crunchie it's Friday. Andy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From SamanthaXi at xxx.com Fri Mar 20 20:05:01 1998 From: SamanthaXi at xxx.com (SamanthaXi) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:05:01 EST Subject: Sinister: Junk Message-ID: <2d889984.3512cbef@aol.com> In a message dated 98-03-20 14:58:22 EST, Ruth McCurry wrote: << I mean, I worship the USA in all her glory n' all, but nothing so special could ever come out of there. >> What a fucking pompous statement! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Fri Mar 20 21:47:26 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 21:47:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Greedy BASTARDS Message-ID: <3512E3EE.FD5@seahouses.u-net.com> Here's the reply I got from OpalMusic.... bids until the end of March eh..wankers. JJ xx -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Subject: Re: Tigermilk Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 20:19:54 +0000 Size: 1339 URL: From mbge5dss at xxx.uk Fri Mar 20 15:27:39 1998 From: mbge5dss at xxx.uk (Dan Smith) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 15:27:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fish & Large Pies Message-ID: <35128AEB.3DE969FC@deathsdoor.com> sorry this has no B&S content but could anyone tell me if Mr Scruff has released anything other than chipmunk/fish on ninja tunes and large pies on cup of tea records as they are a couple of the bestest tunes I've ever heard for a while?. Bad Records: ziontrain aphex twin - i only got it for the one in the "orange telecom" advert honest! army of lovers rage against the machine (I was young okay?) Good Books: "The Cat in the Hat" by Dr Seuss oh and "green eggs and ham" I thought Microserfs was a good read but didn't like shampoo planet also 253 by geoff ryman which is also on the net @ http://www.ryman-novel.com It's good I reckon to dip into occasionally I also wondered what are lists views on mp3's? A useful way of sharing music or blatant piracy which should be stamped out as soon as possible? I am involved in a project which involves using an mp3 player for a car stereo so I would be intrested to hear your views. the spod ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Sat Mar 21 02:06:05 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 23:06:05 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Motion Picture Message-ID: <199803202311.XAA19872@gemeos.electus.com.br> >From Parasol Mailing List Uptade: Motion Picture - Every Last Romance PS, US Sparse guitar, crooning sleepy-boy vox, dreamy cello undertones, waltzing rhythms, lotsa atmosphere. Think Felt, Belle & Sebastian.Recommended! WordsOnMusic-001 CD Is this good ? Ivo A P Escossia escossia at electus.com.br ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ahalter at xxx.edu Sat Mar 21 02:35:45 1998 From: ahalter at xxx.edu (ahalter) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 18:35:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: a book Message-ID: hullo everyone i am reading infinite jest by david foster wallace presently and this is one of the most engaging stories i have read in a very long time fair warning its _very_ long i think maybe 1000 pages and there are involved footnotes but it is so fantastic that i am recommending it heartily to everyone that i know... and i have loads of other favourite books but this is just what i am reading right now.... take care allison ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From plaird at xxx.uk Sat Mar 21 03:00:21 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (plaird) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 98 03:00:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S Tape Loop/Loop Message-ID: <199803210259.CAA25904@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Just had a relaxing few days on the Isle of Skye (my girlfriend has some relatives up there) and have overdosed a bit on B&S (haven't really been listening to them for a number of weeks). Made up a tape of IYFS and my fave EP tracks plus the surviving tracks from my stricken Tigermilk copy. This tape was rotated with Aretha Franklin in the car over 600-odd miles. Sheer bliss!!! JOSEPH FOSTER asked: >Could someone enlighten me as to a band whats called 'loop'? i bought a >loop T-shirt once, not knowing about any band. Loop were around at about the same time as Spacemen 3 (Jason from Spiritualized's former band) - who they had a bit of a 'disagreement' with (probably the result of some fiction in the NME). The Spacemen claimed Loop ripped-off their sound. They had 4 LPs I'm aware of: 'The World in Your Eyes', 'Heaven's End', 'Fade Out' and 'A Gilded Eternity'. They did a cover of Suicide's 'Rocket USA' which was their only track I believe sounds anything like Spacemen 3 - 'though I'm sure they shared a lot of fans with them. I did prefer the Spacies. I've still got the first three Loop LPs. At first they were Paisley-shirted long-haired psychedelic space/drone noiseniks and quite popular with goths and indie-kids (this was the late '80s). They mutated into leather wearing miserable noise rockers (who only the hardline goths and rock monsters seemed to appreciate). I once saw them at the venue in Edinburgh and it has to be the loudest thing I've ever heard in my entire life (bar the time I had to stand practically in the bass bins through an Inspiral Carpets gig during the Madchester craze). Oooh my poor ears. Gawd, I feel my age. The Laird of East Fountainbridge. "An Egg is good for you" - THE EGG Marketing Board ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From svolaric at xxx.com Sat Mar 21 03:02:27 1998 From: svolaric at xxx.com (sandra volaric) Date: Fri, 20 Mar 1998 19:02:27 PST Subject: Sinister: The Wonderful World Of Nick Bantock Message-ID: <19980321030228.19507.qmail@hotmail.com> Yes i to am a fan of his books,... the artwork is as equally captivating as the story between the two characters. i recommend to the person who made the first post about this artist/writer, to continue along with the story, and read the following two,--"Sabines Notebook" and "The Golden Mean",..it is well worth it,..seeing as you enjoyed the first. And some other books by him are, "There Was An Old Lady", "jabberwocky", "Solomon Grundy", "The Egyptian Jukebox", "The Forgetting Room", and "The Venetian's Wife". Happy Reading :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From uclykan at xxx.uk Sat Mar 21 15:15:15 1998 From: uclykan at xxx.uk (uclykan at xxx.uk) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 15:15:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Major Film alert Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19980321151515.235f7388@pop-server.bcc.ac.uk> Hello sinisters, Could you please go and watch 'un air de famille'? Thank you. Let noone live rent-free in your head, Kelly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elfie at xxx.ie Sat Mar 21 16:38:08 1998 From: elfie at xxx.ie (nickie) Date: Sat, 21 Mar 1998 16:38:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #111 Message-ID: <199803211635.QAA23918@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Ari wrote (ages ago...only trawling through countless digests now - sorry, kids) Poor Willie, spent his whole life > trapped in unrequited love for Maud Gonne. And he still had decades more > torture to go when he wrote this poem. I guess it helped him write some great > poems, but did he live a half-life? I hope there were "others", as he says, > or else he doomed himself. as the Hugh Heffner of his generation Yeats didn't live a half-life... did you know that Yeat was a right goer?...philanderer is not the word he got married but boasted of twenty or more mistresses also, as his youth began to fade his masculine menopause took hold and he decided to go under the knife...don't know the exact surgical details(unfortunately), but basically he got his own gonads transplanted by monkey ones - this is honest to god truth - to improve his 'virility'...according to him it worked...mmm...tasty... provides interesting new angles on Yeats essays, anyway...and i always thought that he was such a nice boy... nickie > > Well, this poem blows my mind nohow. > > - --Ari > > > A Deep-Sworn Vow > > Others because you did not keep > That deep-sworn vow have been friends of mine; > Yet always when I look death in the face, > When I clamber to the heights of sleep, > Or when I grow excited with wine, > Suddenly I meet your face. > > > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:19:57 -0000 > From: Huw Jenkins > Subject: Sinister: Durham/Klute & Spain > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5318.35F8CBE0 > Content-Type: text/plain > > I'm going up to Durham tonight for my graduaion, I know there's someone > on this list from Durham and I just wanted to know if there is anything > going on in Klute tonight and this weekend. Thats all soryy t lacked > anything at all to do with B&S. But wait. I've had an idea. Is there > any chance of Jeepster or anyone else organising a trip to Spain this > Summer to B&S in Benicassim, it sounds like a mental festival and I'm > gong anyway but it would be cool if something were organised foir the > fans. > > huw > > Anyone driving up North tonight from London and want to share the > petrol? > > - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5318.35F8CBE0 > Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > eJ8+IgkJAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy > b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQWAAwAOAAAAzgcDABMACQATADkABABEAQEGAAcAAQAAAAAAAAEg > gAMADgAAAM4HAwATAAkAEwA5AAQARAEBCYABACEAAABGMzIwQTI1OUQzQjlEMTExOTcwMDAwODA1 > RjM4N0Q0NADmBgEEgAEAFQAAAER1cmhhbS9LbHV0ZSAmIFNwYWluAPYGAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAED > kAYA4AcAADAAAAADAP0/5AQAAEAAOQCAsD4vGFO9AQMABYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFKF > AAC3DQAAHgAlgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAVIUAAAEAAAAEAAAAOC4wAAMAJoAIIAYAAAAA > AMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAGFAAAAAAAACwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAA4UAAAAAAAALAC+A > CCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAOhQAAAAAAAAMAAoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABCFAAAA > AAAAAwAwgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEYUAAAAAAAADADKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAA > AAAYhQAAAAAAAB4AQYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADaFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAEKACCAG > AAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA3hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgBDgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAA > OIUAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAIBCRABAAAAMQIAAC0CAADHAgAATFpGdVWaoV0DAAoAcmNwZzEyNSYy > APgLYG5nAdA1N50B9yACpAPjAgBjaArAYHNldDAgBxMCgH05CoF1YwBQCwMLtSBJICdtIGdvC4Bn > IIB1cCB0byBECHDPEQATYBQQAwBnaAVAAhAJBcBteRNwcmFkdQsLcAIgLBMwIGtub0kH4HRoBJBl > JwQgc+UDcGUCIGUgAiAWsQQAfCBsBAAVEQNhFDYAcGSpFkFqdRhhdwBwdAmAfxQCFnMGkBa0GuAE > IABweZ8X8ROxE4QXwQuAIEsKQK8aMBSnGVIX83cJ4GsJ8KBkLiAgVBEAdBuR5mwDIBdAcnkVgAVA > C2B+Yx6gGXAbtx8wH2MUEWSHFCAD8BbAIEImUx7hvkIdIBnxIhAe4BNAdhegrxEAIIIa4AEAYR7h > SQQgyxskG7EgEPFuYxehGwD6SgngcBhgBJAXsAXAG7HZF4JlbBEwJnFnAHAEAO8g8xQABREUAlMK > sBzRF/P4U3VtB4AFwBQRIlEcwvZCCfAN4GEEEAdwFjAiEP0XMXUZYBgiHqAoEQeAAjDHB0AVIAeQ > dGl2LJEZU98TUyECG8AaABWAYiLBK0HqdwhgbBlwYhegBaAG8P8a4hdCG+QecBtRJ3UaQQIQ3mkp > wRbQFSAAcS4KogqEUQqAaHV3MopBJsRk9QUQdhOlTgkRIjAUtxiifkwCICHQA6AZUhoCFAJzNxEB > HUEyAXARQANgbD8LMoQR8QA5YAAAAAsAAgABAAAAHgBwAAEAAAAVAAAARHVyaGFtL0tsdXRlICYg > U3BhaW4AAAAAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAb1TFyKe9zT2rb8DEdGHagAgr8bsTwAAAwDxPwkEAAAeADFA > AQAAAA0AAABIVUdILkpFTktJTlMAAAAAAwAaQAAAAAAeADBAAQAAAA0AAABIVUdILkpFTktJTlMA > AAAAAwAZQAAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIBMQABAAAARgAAAAAAAAA3ywi+0I3REZb9AIBfOH1EBwBh1Rry > 90nREZbqAIBfOH1EAAAAAehzAABh1Rry90nREZbqAIBfOH1EAAAAArrSAAAAAAIBFDoBAAAAEAAA > APMgolnTudERlwAAgF84fUQDACYAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAAwCAEP////8CAUcAAQAAADQAAABjPUdC > O2E9IDtwPVJhaWwgTWFuY2hlIEZpbmE7bD1STUYxLTk4MDMxOTA5MTk1N1otNDEAAgH5PwEAAABY > AAAAAAAAANynQMjAQhAatLkIACsv4YIBAAAAAAAAAC9PPVJBSUwgTUFOQ0hFIEZJTkFOQ0UvT1U9 > Uk1GL0NOPVJFQ0lQSUVOVFMvQ049SFVHSC5KRU5LSU5TAB4A+D8BAAAADAAAAEh1dyBKZW5raW5z > AB4AOEABAAAADQAAAEhVR0guSkVOS0lOUwAAAAACAfs/AQAAAFgAAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgA > Ky/hggEAAAAAAAAAL089UkFJTCBNQU5DSEUgRklOQU5DRS9PVT1STUYvQ049UkVDSVBJRU5UUy9D > Tj1IVUdILkpFTktJTlMAHgD6PwEAAAAMAAAASHV3IEplbmtpbnMAHgA5QAEAAAANAAAASFVHSC5K > RU5LSU5TAAAAAEAABzBgi4obGFO9AUAACDDwkGwvGFO9AR4APQABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAB0OAQAA > ABUAAABEdXJoYW0vS2x1dGUgJiBTcGFpbgAAAAAeADUQAQAAAC4AAAA8NjFENTFBRjJGNzQ5RDEx > MTk2RUEwMDgwNUYzODdENDQwMUY4OUZAUk1GMT4AAAALACkAAAAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAGEBOU+EQD > AAcQyQEAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABJTUdPSU5HVVBUT0RVUkhBTVRPTklH > SFRGT1JNWUdSQURVQUlPTixJS05PV1RIRVJFU1NPTUVPTkVPTlRISVNMSVNURlJPTURVUkhBTUFO > RElKVVNUV0FOVEVEVE9LTk9XSUZUAAAAAAIBfwABAAAALgAAADw2MUQ1MUFGMkY3NDlEMTExOTZF > QTAwODA1RjM4N0Q0NDAxRjg5RkBSTUYxPgAAAA6n > > - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5318.35F8CBE0-- > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 09:26:29 -0000 > From: Keith Watson > Subject: Re: Sinister: no contiene nada de Belle y Sebastian, lo siento > > >Unfortunately they chose the latter. Whatever. As a journalist who happens > to > >adore B&S, the music is the most important thing. I'd rather they wrote > >fiction or did something akin to the Melody Maker NYC diary than 'succumb' > to > >the interview procedure. Do we actually CARE which is SM's favourite Felt > >song, or, indeed, what colour socks he wears? Belle Lettres is much more > >relevant. They have to realise that if they're going to enter into > media-esque > >shenanigans, however, that an attitude reminiscent of the '86 shambling era > >(or, at least, the way it was portrayed by the NME and suchlike at the > time) > >comes across as less than charming in print/IRC transcript. > >Stephen. > > > > Well that's a bloody great pity isn't it. Belle and Sebastian and the chat > operators both fail to live up to your high standards of conduct. Well you > are a journalist I suppose and people really ought to treat you with more > respect than others. > > There were a lot of people from lots of different places, with lots of > different interests and there were people of many different ages involved in > that chat. If someone wants to ask what colour socks someone wears then > that's up to them - or would you suggest that perhaps all questions should > be vetted by you personally before anyone's allowed to ask them. I suspect > there were some people out there who were quite interested in what their > favourite Felt song was. Not everyone's going to care - but that's not the > point. > > Incidentally, what questions did you ask yourself? > > > Keith. > > > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 10:28:59 -0000 > From: Huw Jenkins > Subject: Sinister: Durham/Klute & Spain > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5321.D53AF940 > Content-Type: text/plain > > I'm going up to Durham tonight for my graduaion, I know there's someone > on this list from Durham and I just wanted to know if there is anything > going on in Klute tonight and this weekend. Thats all soryy t lacked > anything at all to do with B&S. But wait. I've had an idea. Is there > any chance of Jeepster or anyone else organising a trip to Spain this > Summer to B&S in Benicassim, it sounds like a mental festival and I'm > gong anyway but it would be cool if something were organised foir the > fans. > > huw > > Anyone driving up North tonight from London and want to share the > petrol? > > - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5321.D53AF940 > Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 > > eJ8+IgIKAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy > b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQWAAwAOAAAAzgcDABMACgAcADsABABQAQEGAAcAAQAAAAAAAAEg > gAMADgAAAM4HAwATAAoAHAA7AAQAUAEBCYABACEAAABGMzIwQTI1OUQzQjlEMTExOTcwMDAwODA1 > RjM4N0Q0NADmBgEEgAEAFQAAAER1cmhhbS9LbHV0ZSAmIFNwYWluAPYGAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAED > kAYA4AcAADAAAAADAP0/5AQAAEAAOQDgcAbUIVO9AQMABYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAFKF > AAC3DQAAHgAlgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAVIUAAAEAAAAEAAAAOC4wAAMAJoAIIAYAAAAA > AMAAAAAAAABGAAAAAAGFAAAAAAAACwAAgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAA4UAAAAAAAALAC+A > CCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAAOhQAAAAAAAAMAAoAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAABCFAAAA > AAAAAwAwgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAAEYUAAAAAAAADADKACCAGAAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAA > AAAYhQAAAAAAAB4AQYAIIAYAAAAAAMAAAAAAAABGAAAAADaFAAABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAEKACCAG > AAAAAADAAAAAAAAARgAAAAA3hQAAAQAAAAEAAAAAAAAAHgBDgAggBgAAAAAAwAAAAAAAAEYAAAAA > OIUAAAEAAAABAAAAAAAAAAIBCRABAAAAMQIAAC0CAADHAgAATFpGdVWaoV0DAAoAcmNwZzEyNSYy > APgLYG5nAdA1N50B9yACpAPjAgBjaArAYHNldDAgBxMCgH05CoF1YwBQCwMLtSBJICdtIGdvC4Bn > IIB1cCB0byBECHDPEQATYBQQAwBnaAVAAhAJBcBteRNwcmFkdQsLcAIgLBMwIGtub0kH4HRoBJBl > JwQgc+UDcGUCIGUgAiAWsQQAfCBsBAAVEQNhFDYAcGSpFkFqdRhhdwBwdAmAfxQCFnMGkBa0GuAE > IABweZ8X8ROxE4QXwQuAIEsKQK8aMBSnGVIX83cJ4GsJ8KBkLiAgVBEAdBuR5mwDIBdAcnkVgAVA > C2B+Yx6gGXAbtx8wH2MUEWSHFCAD8BbAIEImUx7hvkIdIBnxIhAe4BNAdhegrxEAIIIa4AEAYR7h > SQQgyxskG7EgEPFuYxehGwD6SgngcBhgBJAXsAXAG7HZF4JlbBEwJnFnAHAEAO8g8xQABREUAlMK > sBzRF/P4U3VtB4AFwBQRIlEcwvZCCfAN4GEEEAdwFjAiEP0XMXUZYBgiHqAoEQeAAjDHB0AVIAeQ > dGl2LJEZU98TUyECG8AaABWAYiLBK0HqdwhgbBlwYhegBaAG8P8a4hdCG+QecBtRJ3UaQQIQ3mkp > wRbQFSAAcS4KogqEUQqAaHV3MopBJsRk9QUQdhOlTgkRIjAUtxiifkwCICHQA6AZUhoCFAJzNxEB > HUEyAXARQANgbD8LMoQR8QA5YAAAAAsAAgABAAAAHgBwAAEAAAAVAAAARHVyaGFtL0tsdXRlICYg > U3BhaW4AAAAAAgFxAAEAAAAWAAAAAb1TFyKe9zT2rb8DEdGHagAgr8bsTwAAAwDxPwkEAAAeADFA > AQAAAA0AAABIVUdILkpFTktJTlMAAAAAAwAaQAAAAAAeADBAAQAAAA0AAABIVUdILkpFTktJTlMA > AAAAAwAZQAAAAAALAEA6AQAAAAIBMQABAAAARgAAAAAAAAA3ywi+0I3REZb9AIBfOH1EBwBh1Rry > 90nREZbqAIBfOH1EAAAAAehzAABh1Rry90nREZbqAIBfOH1EAAAAArrSAAAAAAIBFDoBAAAAEAAA > APMgolnTudERlwAAgF84fUQDACYAAAAAAAMANgAAAAAAAwCAEP////8CAUcAAQAAADQAAABjPUdC > O2E9IDtwPVJhaWwgTWFuY2hlIEZpbmE7bD1STUYxLTk4MDMxOTEwMjg1OVotNDMAAgH5PwEAAABY > AAAAAAAAANynQMjAQhAatLkIACsv4YIBAAAAAAAAAC9PPVJBSUwgTUFOQ0hFIEZJTkFOQ0UvT1U9 > Uk1GL0NOPVJFQ0lQSUVOVFMvQ049SFVHSC5KRU5LSU5TAB4A+D8BAAAADAAAAEh1dyBKZW5raW5z > AB4AOEABAAAADQAAAEhVR0guSkVOS0lOUwAAAAACAfs/AQAAAFgAAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBCEBq0uQgA > Ky/hggEAAAAAAAAAL089UkFJTCBNQU5DSEUgRklOQU5DRS9PVT1STUYvQ049UkVDSVBJRU5UUy9D > Tj1IVUdILkpFTktJTlMAHgD6PwEAAAAMAAAASHV3IEplbmtpbnMAHgA5QAEAAAANAAAASFVHSC5K > RU5LSU5TAAAAAEAABzCwwq3EIVO9AUAACDAg2VLUIVO9AR4APQABAAAAAQAAAAAAAAAeAB0OAQAA > ABUAAABEdXJoYW0vS2x1dGUgJiBTcGFpbgAAAAAeADUQAQAAAC4AAAA8NjFENTFBRjJGNzQ5RDEx > MTk2RUEwMDgwNUYzODdENDQwMUY4QTBAUk1GMT4AAAALACkAAAAAAAsAIwAAAAAAAwAGEBOU+EQD > AAcQyQEAAAMAEBAAAAAAAwAREAAAAAAeAAgQAQAAAGUAAABJTUdPSU5HVVBUT0RVUkhBTVRPTklH > SFRGT1JNWUdSQURVQUlPTixJS05PV1RIRVJFU1NPTUVPTkVPTlRISVNMSVNURlJPTURVUkhBTUFO > RElKVVNUV0FOVEVEVE9LTk9XSUZUAAAAAAIBfwABAAAALgAAADw2MUQ1MUFGMkY3NDlEMTExOTZF > QTAwODA1RjM4N0Q0NDAxRjhBMEBSTUYxPgAAAO2o > > - ------ =_NextPart_000_01BD5321.D53AF940-- > - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980321193648.006650ac@mail.interlog.com> maybe an ignorant question, but who is felt? i've read a lot about this band these days but ive never heard of them.. what do they sound like, and where can i find them? one more silly question, who is wee karn and how is she (?) related to b&s? ummm.. i think those are all my questions for now.. isn't it funny how here in toronto, there's about a foot of snow on the ground and it's still falling hard and fast even though it's officially the first day of spring? teri xoxo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From haras at xxx.au Mon Mar 23 01:26:26 1998 From: haras at xxx.au (Hall) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 17:26:26 -0800 Subject: Sinister: memories... Message-ID: <01bd55fa$b3024fa0$c4098bca@default> does the intro to "seeing other people" remind anyone else of those old episodes of paddington the bear that used to be on tv?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From cateran at xxx.com Sun Mar 22 00:10:11 1998 From: cateran at xxx.com (Sandy Blair) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 00:10:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: trading, buying, or the selling of souls Message-ID: <01bd5526$e174fa60$cf2b63c3@colloquium.co.uk> >hey. anyone who has tapes of Tigermilk and/or the BBC sessions, I am >interested in trading, buying copies from you, or selling my soul if needs >be. email me if you could please. than you. Isn't this illegal? Who is the best person to report this to? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rwilkin at xxx.au Sun Mar 22 12:16:21 1998 From: rwilkin at xxx.au (shelley wilkinson) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 22:16:21 +1000 Subject: Sinister: bye Message-ID: <35150115.439B@gil.com.au> good evening everyone, sorry, not much B&S... but i just thought i'd write and say good bye to everyone. i'm heading off to the uk next week and i won't have access to a computy very often, so i'm having to leave the list. UNSUBSCRIBE!!! why isn't it working ;) well, you've all been very entertaining and it's been nice getting to know you all and sharing B&S with so many kindred spirits :) i can't wait to meet you all at the picnic in may! i'll still have a hotmail a/c where i'll be able to be reached for any particular reason or if you want to give me some moral support when i get homesick farewell, shelley ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Sun Mar 22 09:31:39 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 09:31:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Felt etc References: <1.5.4.32.19980321193648.006650ac@mail.interlog.com> Message-ID: <3514DA7A.FA0C5FC1@lineone.net> vlass at interlog.com wrote: > maybe an ignorant question, but who is felt? anyone wanting details about Felt should check my web site... go to http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/tangents/main/felt.html Pretty much all you'll need to know is there... getting the records is trickier, but a couple of CDs should be readily available. i'd offer to do tapes but i'm swamped right now, sorry :-( > one more silly question, who is wee karn and how is she (?) > related to b&s? karn glover, married to stuart david... isn't that right? listening to Television... the duke. -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sburon at xxx.fr Sun Mar 22 16:54:31 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (stéphane buron) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 16:54:31 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <35154248.5D0@club-internet.fr> Lovesick on a sunny afternoon... Tired of staying in... Waiting for a sign. Stephane ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Sun Mar 22 20:27:23 1998 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 22 Mar 1998 20:27:23 GMT Subject: Sinister: Monica Queen/Thrum Message-ID: <2207641598.88090454@andyclin.exnet.com> Shawn the large Morrissey wrote: ""vocals by Monica Queen on Jane are INCREDIBLE! She reminds me of a young Dolly Parton or of Skeeter Davis. Has she done anything else? Solo or with B&S?"" Hi, all! LLPJ is the only B&S track to surface so far with Monica singing, she did go out on the B&S UK tour (well, 3 dates) last summer, to sing LLPJ, which was nice... Monica is the singer for a Scottish band called Thrum. I know they've had a mixed press on this list in the past, but in my opinion are/were one of the best bands around, her singing with a big guitar/bass/drums line-up in a crazyhorse style. Their first LP is called 'Rifferama', and came out 3 or so years ago on Fire. (The label, that is)( By law that joke has to be made whenever the label is mentioned). If you like her singing on LLPJ, then that LP is an essential buy. And it's easier to find than 'Tigermilk'. What really stands out is the strength of the songs. There were 3 or 4 singles as well. The second Thrum album 'Archangel' was recorded, then shelved by Fire when they thought it wouldn't sell enough. After being fucked about like this by the label, who after all had signed them in order to sell their records, the band were unable to get the rights to release the album themselves, so its never appeared. The band (I think) are still together in some form, does anyone know what they're doing now?? Or where I can get a tape of 'Archangel'?! Hope this sends any of you who've not heard Thrum out to your local indie shop to chase that LP! Cheers, Rocker, rocker at andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Sun Mar 22 20:25:17 1998 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 22 Mar 1998 20:25:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: giglist? Message-ID: <61438.88090092@andyclin.exnet.com> Richard Lander wrote: ""Can anyone provide a gig list of the band, you know,where they appeared, when etc."" Yeah! I'm the sort of sad bloke who'd find such a list fascinating!, like for example, when was their first gig, etc. Also, how many of these gigs do people have on tape? It'd be fascinating to hear an early gig! Cheers! Rocker, rocker at andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood Sun Mar 22 20:26:24 1998 From: Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood (Stephen_J._Wood at xxx.Wood) Date: 22 Mar 1998 20:26:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk price Message-ID: <495190014.88090132@andyclin.exnet.com> >John Jackson wrote: >Here's the reply I got from OpalMusic.... >"Yes we do have a copy. Mint condition. We are accepting offers until the end of this month (March). >Current highest offer 182.00 UK pounds." >bids until the end of March eh..wankers. My thoughts: If someone chooses to spend that much money on Tigermilk, instead of putting up with a cassette from some nice person on this list, or waiting until the band can be bothered to reissue it, then that's their affair. (If I had to choose between Tigermilk and, say, 15 chart CDs, then I'm fairly sure which would give me the greatest pleasure). You can't blame a record dealer for accepting their money, the record is only worth that because it's a damn fine record, and it's very hard to come by. That doesn't make them wankers. If the band had actually got their act together and put out a reissue, even a CD only release so the LP's are still special or whatever, then the original would still be collectable, but not fetching the ridiculous prices it is. And the fans who want the music could get hold of it. Maybe they want to preserve the mystique of the LP, by ensuring as few people as possible get to hear it, maybe they don't think its any good! Either way it's bound to be pirated/bootlegged soon, if indeed it hasn't been already. So either way we'll all soon be able to get hold of it! Cheers, Rocker rocker at andyclin.exnet.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Mar 23 00:56:03 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 19:56:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: oh he's a killer Message-ID: <199803230056.TAA14543@Vector.inexpress.net> Dear Sugarplums, NO! WHy is it snowing! It is Spring and yet the inches fall and fall.... But perhaps thsi will mean school is cancelled...i could really appreciate that right now,it is at that point where everythign seems to be due...i think my brain is stuck or something,i try to explain to my english teacher 'no one wants to hear me go on about some boring thing!' 'well you MAKE them listen!" (ooh!) i don't WANT to make them listen,i have feeling this speech is gonna end up about my cat. My mother told me to put up a big Welsh flag on the blackbaord and design a game (see,for one of my brothers project i drew him a leopard and he did 'Guess How Many Spots?') count the freckles on the manic street preachers i suppose...have to get done..but don't want to... I saw half of that movie...drugstore cowboy,did anybody else notice that one guy at the beginning who comes into the house is Thom Yorke on speed with a baseball cap on? I swear!! And in another movie i saw this actor..Alan Cummings...is he famous! HE IS Pee Wee Herman,but with a name change so he cna get work or something...it's Pee Wee Herman i bet... >Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 16:54:38 +0000 (GMT) >From: Rod Begbie >Subject: Sinister: Sma Shits >(I'm particularly proud of that Portishead review "If you took the James >Bond theme tune and bunged it through a washing machine at a high >temperature, it would probably come out like this" indeed!) you guys are so mean!:) >Date: Thu, 19 Mar 1998 17:34:40 GMT >From: "Cairns" >Subject: Sinister: like the corners of my mind > >Lovely genevieve wrote > >>....geez,he has the long finger! > >That sounds horribly like one of those conversational snippets you >overhear when the underground is packed with exchange students. well..he does!he could kill somebody with his thumb nail...i used to have one picture oh him with his finger round his eye and at night the light would always shine on that one picture..creepy...Owl Jarvo...oh speaking of I saw that Hardcore video last night...I thought it was quite lovely,kinda glam...Jarv likes feathers doens't he? >Why "Eire"? I'm curious. No, really, I am. I can understand "Brit", >(weren't we all in that crazy summer? Powder supporting Verve. >Donna Matthews in armless tee-shirts. Jarv on 'Pop Quiz'), and "Scot" >just about sums up my life, but why "Eire". Tell me it's not The >Corrs, please. Well...ASH!!(speaking of it was Mark Hamilton's birthday yesterday...i know you all care but you know,he's a lucky charm for me,i don't even liked him but i passed a test once just by visualing him in his silver pants..weird!) and The Divine Comedy and ummmm Sleazy C and The Funky Junkies..i don't even know who 'Corrs' is. >D'you think it would be cruel of me to giggle at the notion of Q >magazine reaching out and touching people's lives around the world? >Probably. oh make fun if you will,but it is a way to learn for me,how else am i supposed to find out? One thing leads to another,you know,like if you step on a bug over here,it is connected to something else... Anyways,the last music pub i bought was a Melody Maker,and I DIDN'T buy it for the articles i bought it for the pictures...Brett in apartment talking about gazpacho mmmmmm.... Peanut..peanut butter and jelly...(found Sharom,Lois n Bram recorda at friends house..AND some Barry White...mmm sexy!) I saw the Brit Awards last night....Robbie Williams doing the mashed potato in rubber scare me.... and Jay-'imroquai'Kay what happened to his crusader man for the environment? Now he wears pimp suit and makes bad jokes,i would bring cabbages to those award places...oh and on books...how i agree with you on American Psycho...actually I agree with you on Bret Easton Elis..see i sent in a picture of my friend looking like Brett Anderson to SELECT and they prin and write 'yeah Bret Easton Elis maybe' so I got some of his books..and I found them so boring! I am glad others didn't like his book either..i thought i must be incredibly stupid,the book is so acclaimed..but they don't DO anything..i mena i know it's supposed ot sow the apathy or something...but still..you know what I book I love by Dahl..i can't remember the name but it's a bout a fox,and he gets his tail show off...i love idea of the fox going round and getting turkeys and chickens so his fox family can have a feast... rrrrrrow, Genevieve ;) xoxo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Mar 23 01:03:25 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:03:25 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: oh you can dance with me honey if you think its funny Message-ID: <199803230103.UAA14663@Vector.inexpress.net> phhhhhhhhhhht. I think assigment coupons would be a lovely idea,that would get you out of doing an assigment...oh to walk in like miss thang and slam that coupon down upon the desk of the teacher... (or get them to accept bribes! stuff the money down the shirt,pat pat on the head...'you didn't see nothing bub') I am wondering what a Belle And Sebastian acceptance speech would be...Or would they even show up..would Stuart Murdoch start to cry and dedicate it to all the fans at home? Or would the sultry Stuey D hold high above his head and says he's a greatful grapefruit... (as a tumbleweed blows by inside my head) mmmm ok,cha cha xxxGenevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Mar 23 01:10:21 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 20:10:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: ahhh sorry... Message-ID: <199803230110.UAA14811@Vector.inexpress.net> sorry it be Genevieve again...one more thing (i cna't help it i'm stupid,i remember thigns only when it's too late) I want to go on in the Sinister chatroom...but the first time i downloaded the software,and when i tried to install it it made a loud crashing noise like the end was near...so i tried that mIRC software,and I got it..i don't know how...but now i ma in a worse position..first this guys head floats around and soem wizard claims to help me but he only is bad,sound friendly but ogre... i get this: unable to resolve IRC server and not connected to server (but i AM!) no more monkeys jumping in tha bed xoxoGenevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From t.hopkins at xxx.uk Mon Mar 23 08:25:24 1998 From: t.hopkins at xxx.uk (Hopkins T) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:25:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: this, and that Message-ID: <199803230847.IAA04042@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Joseph C wrote: D'you think it would be cruel of me to giggle at the notion of Q magazine reaching out and touching people's lives around the world? Probably. Please can we stop talking about Q magazine?;-) I've had a bad enough time about Q magazine already, what with being called a fat drunken turnip and then having my shame displayed on Honey's (otherwise charming) people pages :-( Joseph F(I take it you aren't Joe Foster as in Slaughter Joe, early studio-wrecking Creation Records mainstay...? ...thought not:-)) wrote... > Could someone enlighten me as to a band whats called 'loop'? i bought a > loop T-shirt once, not knowing about any band. > ...and then couldn't understand why people laughed and threw stones at you when you wore it?;-) Loop were a mid-80's drone band who you might like if you like the Spacemen 3, who (it is often said) Loop mercilessly ripped off. Loop were the original life sized models of the Velvet Underground in clay. They wouldn't have known a decent pop song if it bit them. Oh, having said that, we once met a future member of Loop taping a Housemartins gig...top Serious Rock cred there... Apologoes to any Loop fans... Bye Tim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Mon Mar 23 08:54:37 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:54:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Jojo: Gig in Oxford -Forwarded Message-ID: I am on the Jonathan Richman mailing list as well as B&S and when I introduced myself I mentioned B&S, so wasn't too surprised to receive this message. So who can help Daphne out....? Received: from snowdon.elsevier.co.uk ([193.131.197.164]) by ukgwmime01 (GroupWise SMTP/MIME daemon 4.1 v3) ; Sun, 22 Mar 98 23:18:26 GMT Received: from pillar.elsevier.co.uk by snowdon.elsevier.co.uk with SMTP (PP); Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:09:10 +0000 Received: from imo12.mx.aol.com [198.81.17.34]; by pillar.elsevier.co.uk (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP; for ""; sender "Daphne979 at aol.com"; id XAA10291; hop 0; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 23:14:34 GMT Received: from Daphne979 at aol.com by imo12.mx.aol.com (IMOv13.ems) id UETEa18529 for ; Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:16:28 -0500 (EST) From: Daphne979 Message-ID: <36961664.35159bcf at aol.com> Date: Sun, 22 Mar 1998 18:16:28 EST To: M.Hester at elsevier.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Jojo: Gig in Oxford Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 2.7 for Mac sub 3 Do you know of any belle and sebastian tour dates in the US any time soon? Thanks -Daphne ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickdastoor at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 09:27:42 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:27:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: memories... Message-ID: <19980323092742.4767.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Hooray! I have come to the conclusion that the intro to "Seeing Other People" sounds like EVERY song that has EVER been written. It is the everyman of popular music. It is the salamander of piano. It is, in a very real sense, magic. Nicky ---Hall wrote: > > does the intro to "seeing other people" remind anyone else of those old episodes of paddington the bear that used to be on tv?? _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Mon Mar 23 10:09:16 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:09:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Plymouth - Stonehouse Improvement Message-ID: <01BD5643.BEA93640@pc07628> >Paige Wrote : >Just wondering if anyone out there has read the new Ted Hughes poetry >collection, Birthday Letters? I want to read it (because didn't we >*all* have that only-Sylvia-understands-my-pain phase?), but I'm not >sure if I want to shell out the $20 or so dollars to buy it. Paige, I got about a quarter of the way through and had to put it down. TH is not my cup-of-tea on his good days, but I am very disappointed by what I have read so far. It is quite hard going !! Adrian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From olaf7 at xxx.is Mon Mar 23 10:45:23 1998 From: olaf7 at xxx.is (OMUser=Olafia Svansdottir) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:45:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: cuckooland, north atlantic ocean Message-ID: <0290D608@MHS> teri wrote >isn't it funny how here in toronto, there's about a foot of snow on the >ground and it's still falling hard and fast even though it's officially the >first day of spring? and genevieve wrote: >NO! WHy is it snowing! It is Spring and yet the inches fall and fall.... yes yes yes,,, we should form a support group: people recovering from winter,or manic winter depressive( no, thats just me). Every time you think the summer is coming,, it begins snowing, I know I should just face it, spring never arrives here before end of april, but after 6 months of winter, it does get to you a little doesn't it. > who is wee karn and how is she (?) related to b&s? I always thought it a nickname of someone in B&S, but as it turns out it's SD's wife- am I right? Does anybody know of a club in Cambridge called The Boutraiser or something or other,, my friends are trying to get a 'gig' there and they were told that it was a very 'hot' club, and one of the best(est) small venues or something.. and one thing in the end: the song that Arab Strab remixed for David Holmes ( lets get killed) is actually on a radio chart here in Iceland, it's actually quite a good song, so i'm a bit surprised.............. well thats all for now................................................................... .............olla ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Mon Mar 23 11:08:42 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:08:42 +0000 Subject: Sinister: giglist? References: <61438.88090092@andyclin.exnet.com> Message-ID: <351642BA.2B8EFA20@virgin.net> Stephen J. Wood wrote: > Richard Lander wrote: ""Can anyone provide a gig list of the band, you > know,where they appeared, when etc."" > Yeah! I'm the sort of sad bloke who'd find such a list fascinating!, like for > example, when was their first gig, etc. One of the very first gigs was in a bedroom in glasgow on 13th january 1996. it was just stuart m and an acoustic, with richard on bongos and i think isobel doing a bit of cello ... (someone correct on this if i'm wrong). it was the first time that mark saw the "band" and apparently stuart had shoulder length blonde hair back then too! anyhow, the set list (or programme as is written on the handout on the wall here at jeepster) is as follows: Mary Jo Expectations My Wandering Days Are Over You're Just A Baby Your Idea of Fun* I Don't Love Anyone The State I Am In (* i don't know what this song is ... stuart???) i think they had done a few gigs in glasgow as rhode island before this time ... there's a poster in the church hall flat with something along those lines on it, but i doubt that was the incarnation of B&S as we know them know ... probably just stuart m & stuart d & mick with the session musos from the dog on wheels ep (or something ... can you tell i'm guessing here) the first b&s gig i went to was at the borderline in london in november 1996 (can't remember the date though ... 5th or something? check andy dean's site, he's bound to have it written down somewhere! but i'm pretty sure it was before sinister was actually released) and they opened with rhoda ... don't know what the rest was though, sorry! there were the two concerts gigs (hang on, let me go look at the poster for the dates ...) umm, glasgow qm on the 8th march and edinburgh ballroom on the 9th march 1997. i didn't let david go up for them 'cos i was jealous ... ooh, how silly! :) kelvingrove/qm gig on the longest day (june 21st i think?) in glasgow, 1997. union chapel, london on 31st july 1997. oxford zodiac, august 2nd 1997. colchester arts centre, august 3rd 1997. angel orensanz foundation centre for the arts, new york on 6th and 7th september 1997. bam festival, plaza del rai, barcelona on 20th september 1997. manchester town hall, 28th and 29th december 1997. that's all i know. i know there's been other gigs in scotland etc. but i don't know the dates. byedebye, Katrina. -- ******************************************************************** jeepster recordings ltd. - jeepster.uk at virgin.net 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn ph - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Mon Mar 23 13:19:33 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:19:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: tee-hee in the Park Message-ID: <199803231313.NAA04594@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Yesterday being a lovely day in London I decided to go rollerblading in Hyde Park. I usually play hockey by the Albert Memorial but when I got there, none of the other usual folks were around. But a little kid skated up and asked if I wanted to play with him and his nanny. I said I'd love to and asked him his name... "My name is Sebastian" he said, "and this is Annabelle"... What are the chances of that! XX John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Mon Mar 23 13:44:06 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:44:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Precedence: bulk Message-ID: DAVID (Ruth?)wrote Good to see Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead cropping up on a reading list. I'm afraid the only Fountainhead I know is the excellent Bluetones song of that name, probably the best thing on Expecting to Fly. I haven't heard the new album yet. Any thoughts anyone? Yes, pity us poor Philistine science graduates! There seems to be a lot of literature and poetry being cited on the list these days! Perfume - Paris Angels Wow! Yes the Paris Angels. 'Sundew' album is ace and 'Perfume' is the best of all. I remember hearing it for the first time on a London pirate radio station called Q (or possibly Cue) 102 in the summer of '90. The version that turned up on the album was not quite so good as the original single but it was still ace. They did a superb version of Lou Reed's 'What Goes On' on the album as well. Shame the music press hated them. Q102 was killed off when the radio franchises were awarded. The summers of '89 and '90 were so cool for pirate radio in London; there were tons of highly amusing techno stations which were really amateur and the DJs began every sentence with "big shout going out to...." The piano part on 'Seeing Other people' is incredible and I certainly don't know anything else that sounds quite like it. Maybe in the classical repertoire.... There are Cockney introductions throughout the classical repertoire if Bill Bailey is to be believed. Maybe I should get my revenge on these bookish individuals by starting a discussion on comedy. Fridays just aren't the same now the Friday Night Armistice isn't on. I loved all their stuff on the mIllennium Dome. Mark. -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Engineering & Technology Elsevier Science Ltd The Boulevard Kidlington Oxon OX5 1GB UK Tel. +44 1865 843296 Fax +44 1865 853319 E-mail m.hester at elsevier.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sburon at xxx.fr Mon Mar 23 15:04:46 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (stéphane buron) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:04:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Wee Karn References: <0290D608@MHS> Message-ID: <35167A02.76CA@club-internet.fr> OMUser=Olafia Svansdottir wrote: > > who is wee karn and how is she (?) related to b&s? > I always thought it a nickname of someone in B&S, but as it turns out > it's SD's wife- am I right? Oh, do you think so? I dont know... The only thing i know about wee Karn is that she likes taking photographs of pavements... that she seems very clumsy... that her dad has a super8 camera... that she has an asnwering machine and a Scottish accent... maybe she's even working in a farm (or is she a sculptor???)... that that she likes riding her bike in the hall... Any other clue? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Mon Mar 23 14:08:32 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:08:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: memories... In-Reply-To: <19980323092742.4767.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Nick Dastoor wrote: > > Hooray! > > I have come to the conclusion that the intro to "Seeing Other People" > sounds like EVERY song that has EVER been written. It is the everyman > of popular music. It is the salamander of piano. It is, in a very > real sense, magic. > > Nicky Salamander? Or is it chameleon? But, yes, it certainly does sound like many popular piano pieces. -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . 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Surely they would be better off Starting a good 6 or 7 hours earlier So that then More people could watch them. Cus staying up late is bad for your complextion And I'll never get to my lectures like this. If it started at around 5 o'clock Well then all of the celebrities Wouldn't all look so tired and sleepy Especially the younguns Like Leonardo DeCaprio Who may have paperounds and such like the next day. Also it would finish earlier (well, that goes woithout saying) And all of the actors Could rush down the pub for last orders. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . 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For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pasty at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 23:30:31 1998 From: pasty at xxx.com (JOSEPH FOSTER) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:30:31 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Strand of gold (arf!) Message-ID: <3516F097.475@geocities.com> I'd terible like to say that the Michael Head and the strands Lp entitled 'The magical world of the strands' Is really really really very good indeed, and that is all that I would like to say. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jwg.wren at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 15:30:28 1998 From: jwg.wren at xxx.com (Jonathan Wren) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:30:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bluetones! References: Message-ID: <35168013.CE00F635@dial.pipex.com> Mark Hester wrote: > DAVID (Ruth?)wrote > Good to see Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead cropping up on a reading list. > > I'm afraid the only Fountainhead I know is the excellent Bluetones song of > that name, probably the best thing on Expecting to Fly. I haven't heard the > new album yet. Any thoughts anyone? Buy it! Return To The Last Chance Saloon is perhaps a bit less coherent than Expecting to Fly but it packed full of great songs: Tone Blooze and Unpainted Arizona would be a great start to any album, and The Jub-Jub Bird, Broken Starr, If... and Sleazy Bed Track are superb guitar led pop songs. The album is much less jangly and quite a bit more rocking. My biggest criticism is that, for the most part, the lyrics are not great (From Sky Will Fall, which sounds very early 80's, vaguely Romo pop: `Maybe the sky will fall/And maybe kill us all/Or just the very tall') Not exactly Bluetonic or Are You Blue Or Are You Blind (which has the gorgeous lines `Down the evening rain falls, walzing round my feet/Paints reflections of the houses on my street) A mate saw them live last week and said it was the best gig he'd ever been too. Incidentally, anyone heard a band called Mover who supported The Bluetones?; the same mate said they were brilliant, too. Apologies to Keith et al who I was on the chat with after 9.30 last night; I got cut off and couldn't get back on until 11.30! All the best, Jon -- ***************************************** The unofficial Leyton Orient Mailing List For info on joining mail me at jwg.wren at dial.pipex.com or Chris Uwins at web-orient at clara.net ***************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tuffen at xxx.fr Mon Mar 23 17:03:22 1998 From: tuffen at xxx.fr (Hugh Mungus Tuffen) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:03:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Boat Race Message-ID: <199803231703.SAA02825@opgcf5.univ-bpclermont.fr> >Does anybody know of a club in Cambridge called The Boutraiser or >something or other,, my friends are trying to get a 'gig' there and >they were told that it was a very 'hot' club, and one of the best(est) >small venues or something.. > Tbe Boat Race is (or rather, was..) ace. I worked there for a couple of years, it was so friendly, so many good and obscure bands, such a nice atmosphere, so nice and small and cosy....I used to cook sometimes, once i made lentil soup cos the band was orphic soop supporting the nylon bombers. but orphic soop ran off to kenfucky died chicken going 'uh, yuk, veggie crap!' and the nylon bombers came back for seconds and played really well, orphic soop were rubbish! there was a 'jamming session ' every sunday, local bands on monday, hardcore on wednesday, famouser people at the weekends like beth orton and gallon drunk.. anyway, it was run by this group of stars 'Shebeen Arts and Music' who were a sort of voluntary collective, loved their music, put everything they earned back into the venue. The are the epitome of DIY culture and should have been treasured. They were on the verge of getting an extension with a café and stuff when about 6 months ago the pub owner decided that he wanted to try promoting gigs by himself (might make lots of money!) the Shebeen crew were booted out and most of their loyal supporters now boycott the 'boat race' where gigs still take place (but not as good ones!) Shebeen now have a tiny desultory back room in the Portland Arms in Cambridge, but it's nothing like the same. The Boat Race singlehandedly kept me (fairly) sane during my time at uni, and I fear it's lost. Still, Olla, your friends might like it! After a really good gig you can see new stains on the ceiling. I like that. Hugh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 16:12:52 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:12:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Wee Karn In-Reply-To: <35167A02.76CA@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, st�phane buron wrote: > Oh, do you think so? I dont know... The only thing i know about wee Karn > is that she likes taking photographs of pavements... that she seems > very clumsy... that her dad has a super8 camera... that she has an > asnwering machine and a Scottish accent... maybe she's even working in a > farm (or is she a sculptor???)... that that she likes riding her bike in > the hall... And she and her husband get regular visits from Elvis. Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | He's like a Bill Gates without a Microsoft ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 16:29:16 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:29:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The oscars Message-ID: <01bd5678$d31561a0$LocalHost@dell> -----Original Message----- From: JOSEPH FOSTER To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: 23 March 1998 15:18 Subject: Sinister: The oscars >Is it only me that wonders why the oscars are on at such a silly time? >Surely they would be better off >Starting a good 6 or 7 hours earlier >So that then >More people could watch them. They seem rather pointless to me - but someone could probably get me to like them if they explained them to me. Why? Why? Why? >Cus staying up late is bad for your complextion >And I'll never get to my lectures like this. >If it started at around 5 o'clock >Well then all of the celebrities >Wouldn't all look so tired and sleepy >Especially the younguns >Like Leonardo DeCaprio Maybe Leo won't be so very melodramatic if he was tired - a very good thing in my book. >Who may have paperounds and such like the next day. Do you think he's short of cash? >Also it would finish earlier >(well, that goes woithout saying) >And all of the actors >Could rush down the pub for last orders. actors would have to drink orange juice - they would get in to trouble with their personal trainers if they didn't. Anyway, they have to worry about their multi-million pound earning stomachs and legs, so they would probably drink deionised super-pure h2o. >----------------------------------------------------------------------- >. This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. >. To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". >. For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see >. http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >. For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net >. Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 15:39:29 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadaminational Jacobsination) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:39:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The oscars (NBSC) References: <3516ED2B.6905@geocities.com> Message-ID: <35168227.5A63@interaccess.com> JOSEPH FOSTER wrote: > > Is it only me that wonders why the oscars are on at such a silly time? > Surely they would be better off > Starting a good 6 or 7 hours earlier Silly boy, it starts at 5pm in California. Is that so late? Should we refer to you as great-grandpa Joe? This whole time difference thing has really thrown you for a loop, eh? All in good fun Aadam ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Mon Mar 23 16:37:43 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:37:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stars of Track and Field Message-ID: I really dig the song "The Stars of Track and Field", but I don't think I'm understanding much of the lyrics... I was wondering if someone could help me out with some of it: - is the "you" in the song a boy or a girl? Who is the "She"? and the "I"? I think this is deliberately ambiguous. But remember that it is 'Stars' plural, so different parts of the song may refer to different people. It is a sign of a good songwriter to be able to write in the first person but not actually refer to one's own experiences. - what is "terry underwear"? Terry is short for Terry towelling i.e. the material that 'real' ,as opposed to disposable, babies' nappies (diapers) are made of. - does "throwing discuss" and "track and field" actually refer to athletics? It would appear so. The song sounds intentionally ambiguous to me, so perhaps there is no clear explanation of it... that's fine with me, I just want to make sure I'm not missing anything because of English not being my native language... I think that's true of most of B&S's songs. E.g. the 'fox' in the snow feminine or vulpine???! -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Engineering & Technology Elsevier Science Ltd The Boulevard Kidlington Oxon OX5 1GB UK Tel. +44 1865 843296 Fax +44 1865 853319 E-mail m.hester at elsevier.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 17:44:03 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:44:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Evening Session Message-ID: <199803231247_MC2-37B0-705B@compuserve.com> PLEASE could somebody tape the relevant bit of the show for me tonight? My radio's bust and I've got to work late anyway! Anyone kind enough to help will be disproportionately rewarded. Lots of love DAVID ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Mon Mar 23 17:47:25 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:47:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: tee-hee in the Park In-Reply-To: <199803231313.NAA04594@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Johnston, John CT wrote: > Yesterday being a lovely day in London I decided to go rollerblading in > Hyde Park. I usually play hockey by the Albert Memorial but when I got > there, none of the other usual folks were around. But a little kid > skated up and asked if I wanted to play with him and his nanny. I said > I'd love to and asked him his name... > > "My name is Sebastian" he said, "and this is Annabelle"... > > What are the chances of that! > > XX > John I work in the English department at my school, and I am occasionally required to deliver mail to the professors' boxes that line the wall next to our office. One professor's mail box is labeled B. Sebastian. I can't seem to figure out who this prof is, or what the mysterious initial stands for. Nobody knows of a Dr. Sebastian, so his/her persona seems quite mythical and ambiguous. -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 18:44:41 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:44:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what the hell References: <01IV0G76Z35Y00RAOH@vms.eurokom.ie> Message-ID: <3516AD99.57@seahouses.u-net.com> Brennan Brigid wrote: > > ---------- > From: Majordomo > To: bbrennan > Subject: Majordomo results: a really groovy film > Date: 23 March 1998 10:07 > > -- > > >>>> ATTENTION ALL SINISTER FANS GO SEE " HARD EIGHT" AN ABSOLUTE TOUR > DE etc etc what the fuck is all this about? anyone want to volunteer to 'kick b brennan up the arse' ?? blimey JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From elfie at xxx.ie Mon Mar 23 19:32:38 1998 From: elfie at xxx.ie (nickie) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:32:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: oops Message-ID: <199803231930.TAA10252@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> sorry about leaving that big load of old sinister-digest dangling off the end of that mail i sent yesterday (v114) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 19:57:22 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:57:22 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the radio song Message-ID: <01bd5695$e4dc4a80$LocalHost@dell> did everyone here that song on radio one? Not if you're not in the uk It was fabulous. I'll probably make a realaudio/.au copy of it tomorrow, if anyone wants one, just mail me. It was the best song since the last one. jong jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Tiago.A.Figueiredo at xxx.pt Mon Mar 23 20:22:47 1998 From: Tiago.A.Figueiredo at xxx.pt (Tiago Andre' Figueiredo) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:22:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: what the hell References: <01IV0G76Z35Y00RAOH@vms.eurokom.ie> <3516AD99.57@seahouses.u-net.com> Message-ID: <3516C497.B015551B@inesc.pt> John Jackson carved in a piece or lead: > etc etc what the fuck is all this about? anyone want to volunteer > to 'kick b brennan up the arse' ?? > > blimey > > JJ > xx Hey, JJ And just where is your politeness? It surely grieves to see such rage and anger towards a fellow listee. So much fuss... it really wasn't necessary. ;) ta-ta Tiago --------------------------------------------- | "This is the crisis I knew had to come | | Destroying the balance I'd kept | | Doubting, unsettling and turning around | | Wondering what will come next" | | | | Tiago Andre' Figueiredo | | Tiago.A.Figueiredo at inesc.pt | --------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Mon Mar 23 18:48:45 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:48:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk price References: <495190014.88090132@andyclin.exnet.com> Message-ID: <3516AE8C.99C4122@lineone.net> > You can't blame a record dealer for accepting their money, the record > is only > worth that because it's a damn fine record, and it's very hard to come > by. no, it's 'worth' that much because it is rare and a lot of people are currently belle & sebastian fans, and it has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the work. it could be a heap of shite and fans would still be prepared to pay a lot of money for it, for the rarity value, for the snob value if you will... i know of many records that are equally good, equally rare and yet 'worth' no-where near as much in monetary terms. > That doesn't make them wankers. possibly not, but i'm not convinced i'd be respectful of someone who spent that much on a Pop record... I don't own an original of TM by the way, but i am happy with my tape and mini-disc copies. I might pay around £20 for a copy, for a copy of any record i really loved, but no more. It's just not 'worth' it over that price in my opinion... arbitrary i know, but hey... > If the band had actually got their act together and put out a reissue, > even a > CD only release so the LP's are still special or whatever, then the > original > would still be collectable, but not fetching the ridiculous prices it > is. but it would, because you never deny the collectability of the original. there will only ever be 1000, and as long as the band are popular and collectable there will be some prepared to pay that sum. It's got nothing to do with wanting the music or the songs, it's about wanting product, artefact... > it's bound to be pirated/bootlegged soon, if indeed it hasn't been > already. > So either way we'll all soon be able to get hold of it! would you rather: a) get a fairly decent copy dubbed by someone cool like Andy Dean or Pam Berry for the price of a tape and postage or b) pay some dubious fucker a tenner for a dodgy CD bootleg copy down some market? anyone who answers b) can fuck right off now. keeping the faith, even though it hurts sometimes, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Mon Mar 23 18:51:25 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:51:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jasmine Minks Message-ID: <3516AF2D.19E24CB6@lineone.net> sorry it's not B&S related, but i know there's some folk with impecable taste on the list who might like to know that Jim Shepherd/Jasmine Minks will be playing a show at the Living Room club in Exeter, Devon on the evening of Sunday April 5th. Free entry, a fine night to be had by all. advert over, thanks for your indulgence. We will play Belle & Sebastian in the disco section :-) keep the faith, the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Mar 23 20:49:49 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:49:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: a nice review to enjoy Message-ID: <01bd569d$396645e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> The following review appeared in last Friday's edition of El Diario Vasco, the world's worst newspaper: ---------------------------------------------------------- Beautiful and personal (that's the headline) After the delicious debut Tigermilk (today a cult object) this 3, 6, 9 Seconds of Light is the Scottish sextet's third single. It starts off with A Century of Fakers, which is reminiscent of rhythms chewed in Lazy Lane with better sound and a new melody. Love and surfing psychodelia fly over Le Pastie de Bourgoisie, where the reverb and double voices smell of Californian salt residue. Beautiful shaows us again that B&S are on form. In Put the Book on The Shelf they sing to themselves. Kevin Kevorkian --------------------------------------------------------- That's it. I haven't made anything up, honest. I think Mister "Kevorkian" (a) has got Tigermilk and (b) is no stranger to drugs. There's a little picture off the record cover as well. The other new release reviewed this week is Nicolette's Let No One Live Rent Free In Your Head. If I'm not mistaken it's from about two years ago. Peter Peter ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nicolina at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 20:58:35 1998 From: nicolina at xxx.com (Nicole Elger) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:58:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the radio song Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Mar 1998 jon g. wrote: >did everyone here that song on radio one? >Not if you're not in the uk Ah, lucky for us, Radio 1 has live audio on its web site so I could listen from the US. :-) I was getting some connect errors for a while, but then hooked up successfully about 5 mins before the B&S song came on. FYI to the non-UK listees: http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/ >It was fabulous. I know, it made me cry for the first time in over a month! Luckily my boss didn't walk into my office right then. Did you catch the name of the song? Wow, that was the closest I've been to hearing B&S live. Even though I've heard tapes of the other sessions, this was different. Plus I got to hear them talk for the first time, not counting "Elvis". - Nicole, happy bunny on a rainy monday. . . . . n i c o l i n a @ d r i z z l e . c o m . . . . i've concluded once again that i'm too fickle for a signature file. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 13:30:43 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:30:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk price References: <495190014.88090132@andyclin.exnet.com> Message-ID: <35166403.1029@seahouses.u-net.com> Stephen J. Wood thinked with his mind: > My thoughts: > > You can't blame a record dealer for accepting their money, the record is only > worth that because it's a damn fine record, and it's very hard to come by. > That doesn't make them wankers. Yes it does. They are money grabbing thieving gypsy BASTARDS and want to get as much money as they can for it rather than charge a respectable amount. Hence the 'Offers' bit. They could have said a flat rate of 150 quid but they didn't. So shut up because you are wrong. Nur nur double nur , no returns. JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jwg.wren at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 21:13:30 1998 From: jwg.wren at xxx.com (Jonathan Wren) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:13:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the radio song References: Message-ID: <3516D07A.3A49735A@dial.pipex.com> Nicole Elger wrote: > >It was fabulous. > > I know, it made me cry for the first time in over a month! Luckily my boss > didn't walk into my office right then. Did you catch the name of the song? It was called `Wrong Love'. Was that Stevie singing? It didn't sound like StuartM and the lyrics seemed very different to the usual StuM stuff; very personal, lovely, wistful and very slightly countryish. Beautiful and not at all mental. All the best, Jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 21:36:20 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:36:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: not available outside the UK References: <01IV0G76Z35Y00RAOH@vms.eurokom.ie> <3516AD99.57@seahouses.u-net.com> <3516C497.B015551B@inesc.pt> Message-ID: <3516D5D4.6ECD@seahouses.u-net.com> Tiago Andre' Figueiredo tut-tutted: > Hey, JJ > > And just where is your politeness? It surely grieves to see such rage and > anger towards a fellow listee. > > So much fuss... it really wasn't necessary. ;) > It's a priest thing...you wouldn't understand... I think it's next Friday, or possibly the one after... JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 21:45:57 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 21:45:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Wrong Love On The Net Message-ID: <01bd56a5$0fdd5d00$c83063c3@dell> To hear Wrong Love, the track that Belle & Sebastian played on tonight's Evening Session, go to http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ You will need the RealPlayer version 5 jong jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sburon at xxx.fr Mon Mar 23 22:50:13 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (stéphane buron) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 22:50:13 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the radio song References: <01bd5695$e4dc4a80$LocalHost@dell> Message-ID: <3516E723.4602@club-internet.fr> jon g. wrote: > > did everyone here that song on radio one? What do you mean?? A song by B&S??? > Not if you're not in the uk I'm not, unfortunately (sigh) > It was fabulous. I guess so... > I'll probably make a realaudio/.au copy of it tomorrow, if anyone wants one, > just mail me. I want one!!! > It was the best song since the last one. > The last one by who??? Stéphane ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Mon Mar 23 22:07:42 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 16:07:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Stars of Track and Field In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Mark Hester wrote: > > I really dig the song "The Stars of Track and Field", but I don't think I'm > understanding much of the lyrics... I was wondering if someone could > help > me out with some of it: > > - is the "you" in the song a boy or a girl? Who is the "She"? and the "I"? > I think this is deliberately ambiguous. But remember that it is 'Stars' plural, > so different parts of the song may refer to different people. It is a sign of > a good songwriter to be able to write in the first person but not actually > refer to one's own experiences. > Personally, I think he's speaking to a female subject. "could I write a requiem for you when you're dead?", for example, agrees with the actual requiem, "She had the moves, etc. It went to her head" and then, later, "She had the knowledge to get her into college." I think it's a song directed towards one particular star of track and field, a female, who personifies an entire genre of athletes, the stars of track and field. I'll defend my position to the death. So there. (Actually, I'm just being melodramatic. All these mentions of Leonardo Decrapio are bringing to mind the previews of his swashbuckling new film, The Man in the Iron Mask. DeCreepio's long red hair plagues my commercial breaks between important programs, such as Dawson's Creek.) -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Mon Mar 23 23:51:02 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 23:51:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: nOrThY Message-ID: <199803232235.WAA20341@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> is back on the list I'm just here to see if the concert rumours are true ARE THEY PLAYING IN LONDON??? I need to know when and where or I'll die bye Northy ______________________________________________________ "Everyday, when I wake up, I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" Cerys Matthews - 1998 ________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Mon Mar 23 22:53:18 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 17:53:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: i really love it when you tell me to stop Message-ID: <199803232253.RAA16187@Vector.inexpress.net> >Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:19:33 -0000 >From: "Johnston, John CT" >Subject: Sinister: tee-hee in the Park >"My name is Sebastian" he said, "and this is Annabelle"... Wow! since i am skipping the effort on other subjects i decided to try and be creative....i am gonna do a Belle And Sebastian clay-animation film for media..i am trying to decide..The Meeting Of Belle And Sebastian or i could do the story of lazy line painter jane..and do a little clay figure in a cafe,drinking tea...very bored,then the tea cup shatters and morphs to sunny grass land with the little figure running....with B&S as the music of course..!I can't do anything to complicated cos it's like 24 frames/per second... smooch, Genevieve 'stuck in the bar i couldn't get far she was still there smiling it's not me being tall its you, you're small i LIKE that....' ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 23:46:35 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:46:35 EST Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk price Message-ID: In a message dated 3/23/98 0:11:31AM, Rocker wrote: << If the band had actually got their act together and put out a reissue >> But.... (splutter!)... you're... slagging the band! Hee hee. Stephen. The 'journalist' (boo! hiss! etc) who doesn't "want to tell the band what they should do", but would rather they hurried up and released Modern Rock Song asap. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From TWidmer at xxx.com Mon Mar 23 23:58:52 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 15:58:52 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Actual belle and sebastian-related post!!!!!! Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF03117852@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Sweetie darlings, if you have not already done so, go now visit the Select web site (http://www.erack.com/select) and take a gander at the Belle and Sebastian feature. The article, "Enigmatic for the People" hasn't got any news or tidbits you probably haven't already heard, however there's some odd but lovely photos, and apparently a video you can download! (I tried but it didn't seem to work:-/) tata Taralula ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 00:21:15 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 19:21:15 EST Subject: Sinister: Duffy Message-ID: I got a copy of the new (Stephen) Duffy album today. Why has this man not been canonised as yet????? Anyway, Belle & Sebastian are in the Thank You list. I just thought someone out there might like to know. NB Travis - if you want a copy, let me know! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From vlass at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 01:34:20 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:34:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: skating a pirouette on ice is cool, but when there's still ice in spring, it's sad Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980324013420.00667f2c@mail.interlog.com> helloooo >yes yes yes,,, we should form a support group: people recovering from >winter,or manic winter depressive( no, thats just me). NO! it's me too! > I should just face it, spring never arrives here before end of april, but after 6 >months of winter, it does get to you a little doesn't it. a little? sigh... a lot actually... i'm so tired of wearing 5 million layers of clothes and boots when it's so close to april. if the snow doesnt melt before my birthday, i don't know what i'll do... [insert sound of a ticking timebomb here] >- - what is "terry underwear"? heehee, when i first heard the line "you only did it so that you could wear terry underwear" i thought stuart was really singing "you only did it so that you could wear teri's underwear...". i told this to somebody and he said "i think you can only find humour in that if your name IS teri", and, well, mine is. i know that there's another teri on the list too. heehee. juvenile, yes? i kind of wish that's what he was singing... hehehe keep warm! teri xoxo ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kmcguire at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 02:41:05 1998 From: kmcguire at xxx.com (McGuire) Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 18:41:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the business world. Message-ID: <003101bd56ce$4c021ae0$2406d5cf@okcomputer.indierockfuckers.com> hey. do the members of b + s still hold full/part time jobs? if so does anyone know where they all work? ok. thanks. -kelly ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Tue Mar 24 05:18:11 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 02:18:11 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Wrong Love Message-ID: <199803240224.CAA09091@gemeos.electus.com.br> This song's amazing !!!!!! Thanks Jon . Ivo A P Escossia escossia at electus.com.br ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alkl6163 at xxx.ae Tue Mar 24 10:28:26 1998 From: alkl6163 at xxx.ae (Katrina Shepherd) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:28:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the snow Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980324102826.0067ff20@emirates.net.ae> I just have to declare that fox in the snow is one of the best songs i have every heard, thank you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From IMCEAEX-_O=GONVARRI_OU=CGT_CN=RECIPIENTS_CN=SAGUILLO+5FJH at gestamp.es Tue Mar 24 07:34:54 1998 From: IMCEAEX-_O=GONVARRI_OU=CGT_CN=RECIPIENTS_CN=SAGUILLO+5FJH at gestamp.es (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jose_Maria_Sag=FAillo_=28hijo=29?=) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 08:34:54 +0100 Subject: Sinister: MY TOP OF THE POPS Message-ID: <11C8B25D565BD111B33500609709CD8404E6DB@GESTAMP2> march 23-29 1.-MR. MARTINI "Gascoigne, please" 2.-FREEDESIGN " Never tell the wordl" Please vote for them in the Tweenet 3.-ROGER NICHOLS AND THE SMALL CIRCLE OF FRIENDS "Trust" 4.-HARPERS BIZARRE "Witchi Tai To" 5.-BLUEBOY "Too good to be true" 6.-YOSHIE "Meu mundo e una bola" 7.- THE LEFT BANKE "She may call you up tonight" 8.- JULIE LONDON "Cry me a river" 9.-TRHOW THAT BEAT...... "A chocolate bar for breakfast" 10.- THE HIT PARADE "Corporation Street" ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Runegg at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 08:13:29 1998 From: Runegg at xxx.com (Runegg) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 03:13:29 EST Subject: Sinister: jeez. monkey? Message-ID: <51e8dd7b.35176b2b@aol.com> Well, thanks Nickie for the Yeats information. It puts it all in some kind of... uh... perspective? Monkey transplant? 20 mistresses? Okay. --Ari ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Tiago.A.Figueiredo at xxx.pt Tue Mar 24 09:31:20 1998 From: Tiago.A.Figueiredo at xxx.pt (Tiago Andre' Figueiredo) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:31:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Priest's things? Message-ID: <35177D67.F529644A@inesc.pt> John Jackson wrote: > It's a priest thing...you wouldn't understand... > > I think it's next Friday, or possibly the one after... > > JJ > xx Surprise me, JJ. Are we talking about "The Preacher" comic book? Or did I just make a fool of myself with this shot in the dark? Tiago ------------------------------------------------ | "J'ai tendu des cordes de clocher a clocher | | Des guirlandes de fenetre a fenetre | | Des chaines d'or d'etoile a etoile | | Et je danse" | | | | Tiago Andre' Figueiredo | | Tiago.A.Figueiredo at inesc.pt | ------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sburon at xxx.fr Tue Mar 24 10:52:25 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (stéphane buron) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 10:52:25 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Duffy References: Message-ID: <35179064.22C0@club-internet.fr> Essexdog5 wrote: > > I got a copy of the new (Stephen) Duffy album today. Why has this man not been > canonised as yet????? You're right! and i'm looking forward to listening to this album. The only song i heard is 'The Postcard' and it's one of the best songs i've heard since...Stars of Track... Is Stephen Duffy a friend of B&S? Stephane ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Tue Mar 24 09:52:02 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:52:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The E Files Message-ID: <01BD570A.80309940@pc07628> >Rod wrote : >Subject: Re: Sinister: Wee Karn >On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, st=E9phane buron wrote: >> Oh, do you think so? I dont know... The only thing i know about wee Karn >> is that she likes taking photographs of pavements... that she seems >> very clumsy... that her dad has a super8 camera... that she has an >> asnwering machine and a Scottish accent... maybe she's even working in a >> farm (or is she a sculptor???)... that that she likes riding her bike in >> the hall... >And she and her husband get regular visits from Elvis. Is Elvis a cat? This is one of my personal faves, and I know you should never try and read too much into other peoples lyrics 'n all...but !!! The way elvis is described in this song makes him out to sound like a cat !! But then whoever t'is reading on this talks about pinching post-vans and looking like his dad etc etc..mmmmm ???? -- ******************************************************************** "Yes there is a Santa Claus, and anyone who blasphemes against Santa or any of his helpers shall DIE!!" Jimmy Tarbuck. ******************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Tue Mar 24 09:29:54 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:29:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk price Message-ID: <01bd5707$67737790$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >would you rather: a) get a fairly decent copy dubbed by someone cool >like Andy Dean or Pam Berry for the price of a tape and postage or b) >pay some dubious fucker a tenner for a dodgy CD bootleg copy down some >market? >anyone who answers b) can fuck right off now. I think I'd answer B. On the grounds that I wouldn't like to bother Pam or Andy for a copy if there was one going, and secondly given me not owning a minidisc player, I'd be far tempted to have a CD copy of it so's that it lasts more than a few months. Keith. Is it OK if I don't just fuck off right now - apologies for having a different opinion to you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie Tue Mar 24 11:13:07 1998 From: Martin_Conneely at finance.irlgov.ie (Martin Conneely) Date: 24 Mar 98 11:13:07 Subject: Sinister: skating a pirouette on ice is cool, but when there's still ice in spring, it's sad Message-ID: <9803241611.AA0653@mail.irlgov.ie> Olafia and Teri wrote, complaining about winter: ">yes yes yes,,, we should form a support group: people recovering from >winter,or manic winter depressive( no, thats just me). NO! it's me too! > I should just face it, spring never arrives here before end of april, but after 6 >months of winter, it does get to you a little doesn't it. a little? sigh... a lot actually... i'm so tired of wearing 5 million layers of clothes and boots when it's so close to april. if the snow doesnt melt before my birthday, i don't know what i'll do... [insert sound of a ticking timebomb here]" I came across 2 very short poems which might help: winter is as ugly as an arm hair --Jeremy Hartman [I don't know what that means either] The bitter winter storm will always produce a delirious spring symphony so think about a fall in love next summer --Bennett J. Berson Martin C ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bbrennan at xxx.ie Tue Mar 24 08:18:00 1998 From: bbrennan at xxx.ie (Brennan Brigid) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:18 +0100 (CET) Subject: Sinister: what the hell Message-ID: <01IV1IW7Q3UA00UB1K@vms.eurokom.ie> Tiago many thanks for your kind support of waht really really was a genuine error on my part. I cant apologise enough and feel I have been punished enough as I am now on probation and received my quota of seere reprimands. JJ, I feel there was absolutely no need for that abusive and totally OTT reaction. My advice to you and all other sinister hysterics out there is TAKE A CHILL PILL there are more worthy causes out there to get excited about. By the way for anyone interested my aborted message to the list was to recommend a great movie by t the director of Bogie nights - Hard Eight. ---------- From: Tiago Andre' Figueiredo To: bbrennan; ronbarrett; sinister Subject: Re: Sinister: what the hell Date: 23 March 1998 21:22 John Jackson carved in a piece or lead: > etc etc what the fuck is all this about? anyone want to volunteer > to 'kick b brennan up the arse' ?? > > blimey > > JJ > xx Hey, JJ And just where is your politeness? It surely grieves to see such rage and anger towards a fellow listee. So much fuss... it really wasn't necessary. ;) ta-ta Tiago --------------------------------------------- | "This is the crisis I knew had to come | | Destroying the balance I'd kept | | Doubting, unsettling and turning around | | Wondering what will come next" | | | | Tiago Andre' Figueiredo | | Tiago.A.Figueiredo at inesc.pt | --------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From M.Hester at xxx.UK Tue Mar 24 13:25:18 1998 From: M.Hester at xxx.UK (Mark Hester) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 13:25:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Not B&S Mover Message-ID: Jonathan Wren mentioned Mover. I saw them suporting the Dandys at the Elm Tree in Oxford a few weeks ago and thought they were far and away the better band. I would be very surprised if they don't enter the hearts and CD collections of the nation (yes, I can hardly believed I typed that myself!) very soon! Mark. -------------------------------------------------------- Mark Hester Engineering & Technology Elsevier Science Ltd The Boulevard Kidlington Oxon OX5 1GB UK Tel. +44 1865 843296 Fax +44 1865 853319 E-mail m.hester at elsevier.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the.spod at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 14:13:22 1998 From: the.spod at xxx.com (The Spod) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:13:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: obsessiveness: geeky or cool? Message-ID: <3517BF82.CAB4E01C@deathsdoor.com> dear all I went on to the chat site last night and was having the usual music-y conversation when it was mentioned that perhaps people (such as those on list this list) who are really into music have no life. Is this true? Do "normal" people see such activities as being obsessive about a particular band or genre as sad? Or does the obsession hold a mystique that makes these people seem more interesting than they really are?(Are people into to music simply for this very reason?) From my own personal experience it feels that being really into music (none of my friends are) is not really seen as geeky or cool but just unusual, you know like having mad hair or a fondness for sprouts. Something that just distingushes you from other people. It's like paying £££'s for TM when it isn't really worth that much (certainly not to me anyway). Is the price so high because of the coolness factor that is associated with the records rather than the songs themselves? what am I trying to say? sorry it is late :) the spod xxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the.spod at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 14:13:15 1998 From: the.spod at xxx.com (The Spod) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 14:13:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: obsessiveness: geeky or cool? Message-ID: <3517BF7A.57FFA0BE@deathsdoor.com> dear all I went on to the chat site last night and was having the usual music-y conversation when it was mentioned that perhaps people (such as those on list this list) who are really into music have no life. Is this true? Do "normal" people see such activities as being obsessive about a particular band or genre as sad? Or does the obsession hold a mystique that makes these people seem more interesting than they really are?(Are people into to music simply for this very reason?) From my own personal experience it feels that being really into music (none of my friends are) is not really seen as geeky or cool but just unusual, you know like having mad hair or a fondness for sprouts. Something that just distingushes you from other people. It's like paying £££'s for TM when it isn't really worth that much (certainly not to me anyway). Is the price so high because of the coolness factor that is associated with the records rather than the songs themselves? what am I trying to say? sorry it is late :) the spod xxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Gregg_Weiss at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 15:19:02 1998 From: Gregg_Weiss at xxx.com (Gregg_Weiss at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:19:02 -0600 Subject: Sinister: can you be the one? Message-ID: <0008F79B.CE21124@mercer.com> ...the one to make things better. ...the one to turn the gray fog to white mist. ...the one to melt the butter and spread raspberry jam on my bread. ...the one to help me smell sunshine and taste darkness. and most importantly, the one to record tigermilk on cd for me? if anyone can make me a cd of tigermilk (my cassette is wearing out fast), I will surely pay for the cd, postage, and your time. please email me direct at: gregg_weiss at mercer.com an unbelievable amount of thanks, gregg ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aadam at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 14:56:03 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (Aadaminational Jacobsination) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:56:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: obsessiveness: geeky or cool? References: <3517BF82.CAB4E01C@deathsdoor.com> Message-ID: <3517C96F.3DE2@interaccess.com> The Spod wrote: > it was mentioned that perhaps people (such as > those on this list) who are really into music have no life. Is this > true? If music is your way of life, then that's your life. If someone who doesn't like music (yes they exist) thinks you have no life, then that's their problem, not yours. > Do "normal" people see such activities as being obsessive about a > particular band or genre as sad? Define normal. > Or does the obsession hold a mystique > that makes these people seem more interesting than they really are? I think that can only be answered on a case by case basis. >(Are > people into to music simply for this very reason?) That would be lame. You don't wanna know anyone who likes a band just to be cool. There aren't any here. Maybe on the Spice Girls list :P > From my own personal experience it feels that being really into > music (none of my friends are) is not really seen as geeky or cool but > just unusual Simply true only because your friends are not into music. If you were in a community that hosted many music lovers, then it would be quite a different story. > It's like paying £££'s for TM when it isn't really worth that much > (certainly not to me anyway). Is the price so high because of the > coolness factor that is associated with the records rather than the > songs themselves? Niether! The price is so high because of the simple law of supply and demand. There are thousands of people who want something that is just not avalible, so it becomes ultra-expensive. That's why apartments downtown are more expensive than apartments in nowheresville, and that's why Tigermilk is more expensive than John Denver's greatest hits. I have records that were made in editions of hundreds, but because nobody cares about the music, they're not worth more than their personal value to me. Once upon a time someone was thinking,"How're we gonna get rid of all these Tigermilk albums?" I'd bet they'd've doubled the press run had they known. On the other hand, had I know I was only gonna sell 200 copies of my friend 7", I wouldn't've made 1000. You just never know. If you did, then you'd be rich. That's why psychics aren't real. Happy Tuesday Aadam > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Tue Mar 24 16:08:12 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:08:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The E Files Message-ID: <3517DA6C.F7D7F84A@virgin.net> Adrian Evans wrote: > Is Elvis a cat? > This is one of my personal faves, and I know you should never try and read too much into other peoples lyrics 'n all...but !!! > The way elvis is described in this song makes him out to sound like a cat !! > But then whoever t'is reading on this talks about pinching post-vans and looking like his dad etc etc..mmmmm ???? READ THE ARCHIVES !!! :) (sorry for shouting ...) byedebye, Katrina. -- ******************************************************************** jeepster recordings ltd. - jeepster.uk at virgin.net 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn ph - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Tue Mar 24 16:15:18 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:15:18 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk price References: Message-ID: <3517DC16.490FF183@virgin.net> Essexdog5 wrote: > Stephen. > The 'journalist' (boo! hiss! etc) who doesn't "want to tell the band what they > should do", but would rather they hurried up and released Modern Rock Song > asap. pray tell stephen, what exciting publications (besides teletext) do you write for? Katrina. -- ******************************************************************** jeepster recordings ltd. - jeepster.uk at virgin.net 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn ph - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Tue Mar 24 16:16:56 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:16:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the radio song References: <3516D07A.3A49735A@dial.pipex.com> Message-ID: <3517DC78.1059DE4@virgin.net> Jonathan Wren wrote: > It was called `Wrong Love'. Was that Stevie singing? It didn't sound like > StuartM and the lyrics seemed very different to the usual StuM stuff; very > personal, lovely, wistful and very slightly countryish. Beautiful and not at > all mental. Stevie wrote the track especially for the session and the rest of the band had only learnt it that afternoon! awww, how sweet! cheers, Katrina. -- ******************************************************************** jeepster recordings ltd. - jeepster.uk at virgin.net 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn ph - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rod at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 16:43:31 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 16:43:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Oven Growl (anag) Message-ID: On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, jon g. wrote: > To hear Wrong Love, the track that Belle & Sebastian played on tonight's > Evening Session, go to > http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ Jon -- I love you and want to have your babies. Thanks for that, cause I completely forgot to listen to the radio last night. Don't suppose anyone got Garbage's new single off The Breakfast Show? > You will need the RealPlayer version 5 Actually, RealAudio Player 3 worked fine for me (it's the only version that'll run under IRIX 5.3) Someone else (whoops! lost the attribution) wrote: >would you rather: a) get a fairly decent copy dubbed by someone cool >like Andy Dean or Pam Berry for the price of a tape and postage or b) >pay some dubious fucker a tenner for a dodgy CD bootleg copy down some >market? > >anyone who answers b) can fuck right off now. I'm sorry, but I cannot agree with you in any shape or form. I would happily fork out for a CD copy of Tigermilk. If the band don't re-release it, and I find a copy somewhere, I *will* pay for it. Despite already having an nth-generation copy on tape, I would prefer a CD. The fans want Tigermilk to be re-released. People are paying fucking stupid money for vinyl copies. If the band aren't willing to take our money, then there are others out there who will. That's supply and demand for you. On Mon, 23 Mar 1998, Essexdog5 wrote: > Stephen. > The 'journalist' (boo! hiss! etc) who doesn't "want to tell the band what they > should do", but would rather they hurried up and released Modern Rock Song > asap. And let us not forget, the journalist who made B&S the number one single of 1997 on Teletext (and Helen Love at number 6! He am de best!) Come on "the band"! Get "a" move on. (And that "goes for" Helen Love "too"!) Quotation "marks" r00L! Ro"d". Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Subtitles Available on Ceefax page 888 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mctag at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 17:51:06 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Tag) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:51:06 GMT Subject: Sinister: Hello Magazine says Message-ID: <3517eeee.156502@email.mcmail.com> Heavens to Betsy, It's been a while. All the babble of chat and books and Britpop, and somehow it's all flown past me. But you know (cheesy smile) - I've kinda missed you guys. In the week that Melody Maker did their side-splitting (the snakey symbol rears its head) Stuart Murdoch buys Rangers spoof (please do a little more homework next time) and I am forced to share a train carriage with fans of the aforementioned team, complete with their British National Party magazines, it may seem that the world is full of lies and hatred, but it's not true, and in a bid to show the more "fluffy kitten" side of the world, I present my new column (oo-err). This week: Keith "Save the Babies" Watson, Chris "Sylvian" Leonard, Amanda "you see, I am a swan" Bergman and your hapless scribe finally saw the full glory of Paul n' Linda's palatial residence - the Versailles of Auld Reekie, as the locals call it. Paul, with those Rochers you were really spoiling us. Oh yes, and is it really true that Keith was seen buying a V-neck sweater? Don't do it Keef. Our spies have been out and about: Spotted: Girl in Marks and Spencers in Manchester City Centre using her Belle and Sebastian badge to do up the top button of her regulation issue M&S blouse. This makes her an early front runner for this column's style and sophistication award. Last year's winner, Anna Schroder used her badges as cufflinks. Resourceful, and in immaculate taste - congratulations, Anna. Isn't technology wonderful? Before I had email access, the indescribably sexy world of yet another eligible young bachelor, Rod (Rod by name, ROD by nature) Begbie, was just the stuff of a madman's dreams. As he himself says: >He's like a Bill Gates without a Microsoft Girls, how can you resist? Incidentally, thanks for correcting my anagram by the way, Rod, now I understand what made you too busy to go on strike, you were taking time and trouble to rearrange the letters of my name, in order to prove me wrong and demonstrate once again just how clever you are. I'm truly flattered by all your attention. Finally, in the world of showbiz, Richard B&S was seen demonstrating his percussion skills with tambourine-wielding hopefuls Camera Obscura at an open-mike session in Glasgow. Sadly, their performance followed an impromptu set by a very old and heroically drunk harmonica player, whose unique renditions of traditional tunes and special brand of folk-dancing (including the 'lurching dangerously from side to side and appearing on the verge of death') stole the show for many. That's about it. Next week, Stephen Trousers invites us into his beautiful pied a terre, and says "Poetry saved me from cocaine hell". Cheerio, Love Tag xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From nickdastoor at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 17:53:35 1998 From: nickdastoor at xxx.com (Nick Dastoor) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 09:53:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Re: E-Files Message-ID: <19980324175335.29893.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> In response to: >> Is Elvis a cat? >> The way elvis is described in this song makes him out to sound like a cat !! Cross Katrina shouted: >READ THE ARCHIVES !!! :) And then apologised nicely When I started on this list I noticed people referring in an oblique way to this whole cat/Elvis thing. But doing a search on the archives didn't actually help much because: 1. If you search for 'cat' you get everything with the three letters c-a-t in them (including catalogue, the person with the e-mail address 'yummycats' etc.) 2. 'Elvis' is obviously mentioned all over the place 3. Since the search engine is pretty crude this is all you can do. Ideally, you could do clever Boolean searches like "Elvis AND (cat or dog", or else have some kind of nice natural-language interface with clever relevance-ranking algorithms behind it. But sledgehammers and nuts come to mind, and we should be grateful that we've got anything at all. 4. Finally, on trawling chronologically through the early archives, I realised that the real elvis/cat debate happened in the prehistory of Sinister, when there was another mailing list that was beset by technical hitches (I think I'm remembering that right - apologises if not) So my point is I don't think we shouldn't always tell people off for not looking in the archives just because something has come up before - it can be hard to find things. God I'm boring. Nick P.S. Talking of the E-files, I was most excited to see it is shown on Sunday mornings on BBC1. Imagine my disappointment when I found that it was not a series about Elvis sightings but a pretty tedious one on European issues, focussing last week on the impact of closer political union on pension provisions. Bah. _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From ip211579 at xxx.pt Wed Mar 25 01:58:01 1998 From: ip211579 at xxx.pt (ANTONIO ZUQUETE) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 01:58:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?we=B4re_not_alone_..._?= Message-ID: <199803241801.SAA23333@mail2.ip.pt> "to those who doubt, but who have the mind to conceive, and the sensibility to feel, the disorder, the futility, the meaninglessness, the mystery of life and suffering, and who can only find peace through a satisfaction of the whole being." T.S.Eliot Well... i guess that the perfect sountrack to this poem would be any song from The Field Mice or Another Sunny Day. They are no longer here, they left us. But hey...don´t be sad. We still have the beauty/sensibility of B&S and Trembling blue Stars to fill our lifes with something REAL. Thank you, Lord. Pedro. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From mcfeelyfamily at xxx.ie Tue Mar 24 18:18:20 1998 From: mcfeelyfamily at xxx.ie (Preferred Customer) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:18:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The La's... Message-ID: <199803241816.SAA16038@spock.tinet.ie> > > got a question. Does anybody know if The High, The La's, don't know about The High, but The La's did indeed split, although Lee Mavers (singer, founding member etc.) is still talking about bringing out new material. he lost the plot somewhere along the way, and was notoriusly unhappy with their debut (and only album) "the la's". which is actually pretty damn fine (and easy enough to pick up, you can buy it as well, should you so wish!). it was John Power (bassist) who went on to front Cast, their second effort "mother nature calls", well i just don't know really, i wasn't pushed enough to buy it. sin, sin daire. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Tue Mar 24 18:32:36 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:32:36 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: PLEASE READ: FAQ Message-ID: I've updated the list of Frequently Asked Questions for the mailing list quite a bit to stop them being so frequent - consider it a List Manifesto too. I'm posting it here so that when you are growled at for not reading it I have an excuse. Minor grrrs will result if you don't read it as this list is taking quite a bit of time to run. It's big - sorry - but please take a look, particularly at "Using The List". Let's keep this list special, ok, and forgive me for being so damn sensible for a minute. Oh and thanks to everyone who's suggested stuff for this. It's on the WWW at http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/faq.html Honeykisses xxx P.S. Search engine: Nick's right it only does very simple phrases so it might be hard to find Elvis - I'd suggest searching for "broccoli" as a search term - honestly. Try it. And yes one day I'll make the search engine better :) --- Belle and Sebastian Sinister Mailing List --- --- Frequently Asked Questions --- This is a list of questions for using the list. A list of frequently asked questions for Belle and Sebastian themselves can be found at the Fan Club Site at http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/faq/faq.htm. I know this is a long list but please take time to read it before you use the list. Note that this has been updated significantly on the 24th March 1998. Please remember you can see this list at any time by going to the Sinister WWW page at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister --- Index --- - Using the list - 1. How do I subscribe/unsubscribe from Sinister? 2. So I just send everything to "sinister at majordomo.net", yeah? 3. I'm getting fed up with all these messages, can I get them all together sometime instead? 4. Can I tell who is on the list? 5. I can't get off the stupid list - why the hell not? 6. I'm on the list but I've stopped getting any emails - what's happened?? --OR-- My list messages stopped and I get keep getting silly ones about a list called "bounces" - what's all this about? 7. I only just joined the list, can I see what's previously been sent? 8. Someone mentioned something on the list and I can't remember when or what they said - shall I ask again? 9. I need someone's email address from the list and I can't find it 10. When I send a reply to the list the address my mail program decides to send to if I don't change it is stupid! Why don't replies automatically go back to the list / the recipient only? - List content and rules - 11. So why can't anyone out there send any old junk to the list? 12. Brilliant! I can advertise my new band/floor cleaner/hygiene product to everyone on the list now! 13. OK so it's a music list then? 14. So what can we talk about on the list? 15. He/she's really winding me up, I'm going to slag them off something rotten... 16. What else do I have to remember? - Hints - 17. What is "Tigermilk" / what other recordings are there / who is in the band etc etc? 18. Hey I've found out Belle and Sebastian are releasing a single / playing a gig and no-one's mentioned it yet, I'm going to tell everyone... - About the list - 19. Who provides this list? Who says I can't do what I want on it? 20. What has the list got to do with Jeepster, the record company? 21. Do the band read the list? 22. Why bother with all this? - Using the list - 1. How do I subscribe/unsubscribe from Sinister? There are two addresses you need to remember to use the list: sinister at majordomo.net - this is the address to send messages to everyone on the list. Everything sent here goes to everyone - the list software makes a copy of your message and sends it on to everyone who is subscribed. You use this address everytime you want to mail information to the list. majordomo at majordomo.net - this is where you send mailing list requests i.e. subscribe/unsubscribes. Messages sent here don't go to the list but perform certain commands - they should be sent in the body of your message (i.e. first line) and not the subject line. There's not a person on the other end but a program which reads commands you send in your email and responds to them, so you need to type them exactly right. To subscribe to the list you need to send the following command: subscribe sinister and equally unsubscribe sinister to get off the list. It's important you understand the distinction between these two addresses. If you ever get really stuck and you have read the rest of this page, then just send a personal message to sinister-owner at ph.ed.ac.uk This gets through to a person i.e. me and I can sort it out but I'll pull a face if you haven't tried everything suggested here. 2. So I just send everything to "sinister at majordomo.net", yeah? No! Read again! Never send unsubscribe requests to the list itself (i.e. sinister at majordomo.net) but always to majordomo at majordomo.net!!! This is very important as you'll find people will want to throttle you if you send such messages to the list - it happens a lot and drives people mad. I may be able to put a block on these and chuck them away but I do not have the time to manual subscribe/unsubscribe people who get it wrong. 3. I'm getting fed up with all these messages, can I get them all together sometime instead? Yes, instead of subscribing to "sinister" you need to subscribe to "sinister-digest". This is a summarised version of the list every day once a day. Just follow the same rules as above, so just send the message: subscribe sinister-digest to: majordomo at majordomo.net Note the hyphen above, many people leave it out and it matters! Remember if you are changing to the digest to unsubscribe from the standard list. 4. Can I tell who is on the list? Yes. The first way is to click on the links on the main WWW page under "Joining". Here you can see the full email addresses of people on the main list, the digest, and a breakdown of who on the list is from which countries. If you can't get to the WWW you can still get a list by email: just send the command who sinister to majordomo at majordomo.net Equally you can get some info on the list be sending: info sinister but you'll probably just get the same as you're reading here. Again it is possible to retrieve files from the list via majordomo commands such as: index sinister and then get sinister This can be done for the digest version of the list too - but please don't bother if you are reading this from the WWW already! This service is pretty basic and will only contain some information included on these WWW pages for people without WWW access. If anyone falls into this category please let me know as I don't intend to update this much unless there's a need. 5. I can't get off the stupid list - why the hell not? Don't mail me until you've read this or I'll get a bit grumpy. There are several reasons why it doesn't work when you expect it to: (1). You're not on "sinister" but the digest version which is actually a separate list called "sinister-digest". You need to send an "unsubscribe sinister-digest" command. (2). Your mail program is sending out your email address in a slightly different format than before (maybe you changed programs). First you should check your subscription address by finding it in the correct list, using the "who" command or looking at the list from the top WWW page as described above. If you see your address still on the list then try: unsubscribe sinister email-address There'll be a slight delay while this kind of request gets approved but it'll be a lot quicker than waiting for me to sort it out manually. (3). You're actually off the list but mail is still dribbling through - again check the subscriber list from the WWW or using the "who" command. If none of this works and you're sure you're still on the list, then mail me, but send me the error you get when you try and unsubscribe. I can't do much without this. 6. I'm on the list but I've stopped getting any emails - what's happened?? --OR-- My list messages stopped and I get keep getting silly ones about a list called "bounces" - what's all this about? Often your service provider will have problems with it's email setup and mail to you from the list will bounce back to me. I get many of these a day and after mail has bounced once or twice you will be taken off the Sinister list or digest and put on another list called "bounces". It's only purpose is to keep trying you until it gets through, i.e. your email is fixed and you can see the problem. The next thing to do is read the message from bounces! It will tell you what to do. Basically you need to take yourself off the "bounces" list (to stop getting the reminders) and add yourself back on the "sinister" or "sinister-digest" as if you are a new user. If you were on the main list then you would send the following to majordomo at majordomo.net (not sinister at majordomo.net!): unsubscribe bounces subscribe sinister You should get confirmation back that this has worked. 7. I only just joined the list, can I see what's previously been sent? Yes there is an archive available on the WWW. Just point your browser to: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/current This is the current week's archive of messages. Follow the links from that page to see any week's messages on the list. 8. Someone mentioned something on the list and I can't remember when or what they said - shall I ask again? Well have a look in the archives first so you don't get told that it's been answered before. Use the "search" facility on the WWW site - you can find it at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/cgi-bin/sinister-search.cgi You can search for any word or series of words by typing them in the box and clicking on "Search Now!". This will search for the words you entered in the current weeks postings' subject or author fields - there are buttons to search all the text of messages and all weeks but bear in mind it will take a bit longer to search. 9. I need someone's email address from the list and I can't find it Use the "Search" above to look for their name in the archive. 10. When I send a reply to the list the address my mail program decides to send to if I don't change it is stupid! Why don't replies automatically go back to the list / the recipient only? The setting for this list is that a Reply-to field is not set. This means that for most mail programs replies will go back to the sender of the message rather than the list itself. This may or may not be the right behaviour for you, but is set as a most conservative and safest choice for the list. This is a fairly religious issue but here's a quick discussion why I have done it this way. Please digest users in particular remember that a reply to a message in the digest will not go to the list. It goes to "owner-sinister" which is a particular kind of black hole :) I get these sometimes and I'm afraid the list takes too much of my time to manual send stuff on. It'll get deleted very rapidly, so you'll just have to remember I'm afraid. The main reason is because it is generally seen as bad practice to do this,although it's quite widespread - see for instance http://www.unicom.com/FAQ/reply-to-harmful.html The reason for this isn't petty technical completeness but because it can cause very real problems - only in the last month my mailbox was filled with 900 copies of the same error message caused by a badly constructed mail program at the receiving end by someone on the list - some of the bigger corporations just don't abide by standard Internet mailing rules and their programs send errors back to the Reply-To field, which go back to the list and via the list back to the offending machine and... you can imagine. For people picking up their mail via dial-up I can only imagine the nightmares this would cause. - List content and rules - 11. So why can't anyone out there send any old junk to the list? Because you can only send to the list if you are a member (hopefully). <- Not now true unfortunately: it was too much to hope that all mail programs would sensibly send the same email address as the subscription address so it didn't work. This safety net has now been disabled, but please let me know if you think we are being troubled by outside submissions or junk email. I can however stop any specific person ever sending to the list again if they really abuse it. 12. Brilliant! I can advertise my new band/floor cleaner/hygiene product to everyone on the list now! Please please please don't abuse the list in this way. Anyone who consistently and unashamedly sends adverts to the list will be banned with no court of appeal. 13. OK so it's a music list then? Well - sort of - but remember it's a list for People who listen to Belle and Sebastian and it's very existence is centred around that idea. There are plenty of much more general music lists (e.g. "indiepop") which will be better suited to someone who wants to talk for hours about a particular genre. These other lists have many more resources behind them and are there for just that. Of course we're all going to talk about music/books/wallpaper we like but there's a balance to be struck. It's actually quite a hard balance to find so the best thing to do is watch the list for a while and see what people like. 14. So what can we talk about on the list? Anything vaguely connected with the band or with life as a fan of Belle and Sebastian, is OK. The list is the place where you'll hear any real news about Belle and Sebastian first, but it is also a place where people will tell stories about what's happened to them, if they think they're funny or relevant. Try and remember this: it's a list for Belle and Sebastian but more importantly about the lives of People Who Like Belle And Sebastian. If you want a low-volume news-only list for the band then don't join. You will get a lot of mail that isn't about latest releases, gigs, appearances etc., but instead about ourselves. The list goes right when it's lively, funny, interesting, touching, and sometimes even useful. The list goes wrong when people post irrelevancies, not-so-funny "clever" quips, or long discussions take place which would be more suited to another list (like discussions of the relative merits of a band unrelated to B&S). I may step in if we get a long long conversation about something interesting to only a tiny minority of the list - some people pay handsomely for their email and would not be pleased to receive a thousand messages about an obscure band from Wigan who once sounded a bit like the intro to one of Belle and Sebastian's songs. If you do receive a mail from me which asks you to stop posting to the list on a particular subject, or in a particular way, please don't be offended - I am just trying to keep this list running ok - but please do something about it. I have seen too many lists die as a result of losing sight of what they are for and why people liked them in the first place, and don't want the same to happen here, if it can be avoided. Please try and be sensitive to the majority of listeners (over 500 at the time of writing) and do not continue long threads on an unrelated subject - if you wish to divert widely from the issues related specifically to the band, then go to a more general list or pop along to www.liszt.com and join another list as well! Pet theories about whether Elvis is a cat or indeed a brussel sprout are however tolerated for a long time because they amuse your list administrator. 15. He/she's really winding me up, I'm going to slag them off something rotten... DO NOT FLAME PEOPLE OR BE ABUSIVE! I take this very seriously and will act accordingly - too many mailing lists have been ruined by arrogance or a quick temper by people who consider themselves "real fans" - a pathetic term. This mailing list is setup for everyone, especially new enthusiastic listeners who do not need to be abused and belittled. Please be helpful and if you can't think of anything nice to say go and do a jigsaw. Anyone who is consistently a real pain will be permanently removed. I am a naive kitten and I don't like fights on my list and I'll stop them - there are plenty of angry lists to go to if you want. If anyone feels they are being unfairly mistreated or have any other problems with the list please mail me rather than the list. I will sort out any such problems offline. This of course doesn't mean you can't express strong feelings strongly - in fact it's mandatory. But don't attack people, attack things. 16. What else do I have to remember? Please read these and remember. If someone consistently ignores these you might get a bit of a growl and in extreme cases I'll stop people posting if the happiness of the majority on the list demands it. * Don't send warnings about viruses to the list! You might be being friendly but 99.9% of these "virus warnings" are hoaxes - the only "virus" is the fact that you are passing it on, and everyone who knows will groan. If you see one of these and aren't sure then mail me and I will check for you. * Don't send lots of replies to separate messages on the list one after another. This doesn't seem to go down well. Proper behaviour is to hold back, read a few messages and bundle up your replies to them all in one big message for the day. * If you are replying to someone, take the time to edit the bits you are quoting from their message carefully and just quote a few lines. If you can't be bothered editing the message you are replying to, don't bother sending - laziness on your own part equates to over 500 people having to page through stuff they've read before. If you are adding fewer lines than you are quoting it's probably not worth sending either. * Don't send number games/quizzes/jokes to the list if you can help it please. Put a bit of yourself into your posts. * If you really need some information on something that other people may not want to know, please make sure you remember to tell people not to mail back to the list, but to you personally. If you think others might be interested, say you will post a summary of the mails you received. And, erm, do it. * Don't use the list for private mail to 5 people you know. Please help my server stay unclogged so this list can survive. * People will talk about a book or film or song or sandwich filling they love or hate. That's fine - but please don't just say "it's great" or "it's crap". Say why. Just because a lot of people tell me they get fed up with these. * Please don't send messages with attachments to the list. This may not be junk to you but there's still lots of people out there who don't use mail programs that know how to deal with anything but standard text. And please remember some of us use Unix etc. as a principle platform and so attachments in proprietary formats (like Microsoft Word) will just be plain unreadable. If anyone wants to share material that isn't in standard text format, or that's of significant size, that's fine - just send it to me and I will post it up on the WWW site. That way people get to choose to download it... * Don't fling any old message to the list or treat it like email to a few friends - it just doesn't translate on a massive scale and people will get irritated. Think before you send. The drill is: compose your message - hover your hand over the send button for 10 seconds - think: "would Cliff Richard send this?" - send. - Hints - 17. What is "Tigermilk" / what other recordings are there / who is in the band etc etc? This list of answers doesn't cover any of that - it's just guidelines for using the list itself. You can imagine that question like these get asked and answered all the time. There's a set of answers to questions like these on the Fan Club site at: http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/faq/faq.htm Please make sure you read these if you're new before posting your question. 18. Hey I've found out Belle and Sebastian are releasing a single / playing a gig and no-one's mentioned it yet, I'm going to tell everyone... Well you may be right, but it's pretty likely you're not. There seems to be masses of people/shops out there who "know" about release dates/gigs before the band or record company do. To save everyone going out and booking plane tickets, I'd suggest you mail Katrina first at jeepster.uk at virgin.net to check before you post to the list. - About the list - 19. Who provides this list? Who says I can't do what I want on it? The resources to run this list are provided by my employer and it is not a guaranteed public service - I will do whatever is necessary to ensure its continued existence. If you want a completely unrestrained list where anyone can talk for weeks about anything, or a more constrained list that is moderated or band news only, then I'm afraid you'll have to go elsewhere. Hopefully (sorry) Belle and Sebastian won't become quite as popular as Take That so I will be able to keep it going on borrowed resources - but if it impacted too much I might have to withdraw it one day. To ensure it continues therefore it isn't a public resource in quite the same way a newsgroup is. So please be nice. 20. What has the list got to do with Jeepster, the record company? Nothing formally at all - although Jeepster are a friendly bunch and we'd all be lost without Katrina (from Jeepster)'s newsworthy quips and endless help. But the list isn't here to promote Jeepster, or indeed the band really, and we don't have to say only nice things about either of them. Nor is the list directly affiliated to David Kitchen's fan club, although he was fundamental in helping to set the list up and running it. I'm making these points just to say that it's a separate, strictly non-commercial meeting place - if you want fan club or record company comment then go straight to Katrina or David. 21. Do the band read the list? The answer is pretty much: yes, sporadically. The band have an office in Glasgow and a few members get Internet access elsewhere and they keep up with it on and off when it's interesting. Please don't let that inhibit anyone from saying anything - remember it's your list, not anyone elses. And don't expect an answer from the band to a query on the list - it's pretty unlikely. Mail them direct from the link to the band WWW pages on the Sinister top page. 22. Why bother with all this? Lists of frequently asked questions like this are usually formal and stuffy affairs so a personal note: I am a grumpy thirty-something who still refuses to listen to Eric Clapton or moan how good music was when he was 16 - it's hard though when we're surrounded by so much mediocrity, but we shouldn't kid ourselves it was any different 15 years ago. But when I heard Belle and Sebastian I jumped for joy at a band with genuine musical sense, charm, toughness and POPness. So this is still all about music. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Honey 24th March 1998 mailto:honey at Majordomo.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From MFKX7HVB at xxx.uk Tue Mar 24 18:48:52 1998 From: MFKX7HVB at xxx.uk (Henry) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:48:52 gmt0bst Subject: Sinister: wrong love Message-ID: <64E7113B09@orpheus.man.ac.uk> "Wrong Love" - How do we interpret this in terms of the gay/straight debate? ans: not at all please. love to everyone, *** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cja1000 at xxx.uk Tue Mar 24 18:55:17 1998 From: cja1000 at xxx.uk (Chris) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:55:17 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?we=B4re_not_alone_..._?= In-Reply-To: <199803241801.SAA23333@mail2.ip.pt> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, ANTONIO ZUQUETE wrote: > But hey...don´t be sad. We still have the beauty/sensibility of B&S and > Trembling blue Stars to fill our lifes with something REAL. > well I went into the virgin shop and they had the trembling blue stars on the listening post so I thought I may as well have a listen and I did but I think they must have had Enya on by mistake. C. Belle and Sebastian on the radio.... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Mar 24 18:42:34 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:42:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: me again only me sorry but i DO talk about B&S slightly here ok so theres no point... Message-ID: <49mCjHAa6$F1Ewxv@elsato97.demon.co.uk> how do list? whos your fave belle and sebastian? (not snappy enough, needs more work..) mine at the mo`, are MICK, 'cos he likes Play It Cool by the Super Furry Animals (een tho they *aren't* that furry - ho ho...) and Sarah, the novelty instrument playing star. and i mean that, the songs would be nowhere near as magical without her...i supose all you "lads" fancy Isobel and some of ye girls too, but ye gods! what have we come to when psyhical apprearance is all that matters? i mean, i'm as ugly s fuck and no-one thinks *i'm* a twat...ok now don't argue!!! Mick is dudey cos he liks SFA but i dunno what he loks like cos i couldnt see him at the gig. my view was blocked by two girls wearing (almost indentical in the light) chinese dresses. i didn't like them. not at ALL 'cos Staurt said to one, 'oh you're really pretty' and i didn't think 'oh stuart why couldnt you say that to me?'... and then i didn't like them much for some unknown reason. i am saving up for plastic surgery... *sigh* I dont think Play it Cool is the best SFA song though, even though tis jolly good. me likes crys ti!!! (your shirt!?!?!?) and placid casual and hit and run and gathering moss and everything as they are so groovey. and international language of screaming is the most catchy song ever. apart from perhaps Pocketbook Angel. Oh my lord that songs is sooo ace! Stuarts OK as well. Both Stuarts. Isobel is, um alive, Richard rocks, Chris is perhaps too cool to exist (the young MC!!!!) - and have i got them all now? so it was kinda B&S. don't ask me, i am confused by buses and paints and i can't get to exeter to see the jasmine minks which is a shame as i very much like the tape of theirs that i have, oh well nevermind. I'm going to see Cujo!!! ra! not. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Sarah starryone! mmmm......waffles.... http://www.elsato97.demon.co.uk ********************************* * FEATHER BOAS & NAPALM ZINE * * C'MON! PUNCH THE AIR! * * One Pound and A5 SAE * * 9 Westfield Drive, Warton * * Preston, Lancs * * PR4 1ED * ********************************* ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 20:10:07 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 20:10:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: oh for fucks sake References: <01IV1IW7Q3UA00UB1K@vms.eurokom.ie> Message-ID: <3518131F.7701@seahouses.u-net.com> the humourless Brennan Brigid wrote: > Tiago > many thanks for your kind support etc etc For those non UK residents, I was referring to a forthcoming episode of the greatest comedy in the world, Father Ted. I'm sorry you missed the reference completely, Brigid Brennan (or is it Brennan Brigid?). Never mind eh. > By the way for anyone > interested my aborted message to the list was to recommend a great movie by > t > the director of Bogie nights - Hard Eight. BOGIE nights????? crikey! JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Mar 24 22:11:27 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:11:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: fine. ignore me then. Message-ID: <199803242056.UAA24379@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> did I forget to say please? OK. Can someone please tell me the latest gig new? Dave and Katrina? Going to Morcheeba on Friday :) bye Northy ______________________________________________________ "Everyday, when I wake up, I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" Cerys Matthews - 1998 ________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rnorth at xxx.uk Tue Mar 24 23:00:36 1998 From: rnorth at xxx.uk (northy) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 23:00:36 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I didn't know B&S were about hate............ Message-ID: <199803242145.VAA32524@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> This list stinks all I have encountered from this list is hate. It has in fact soured my liking of B&S a litte. You know when you are listening to all those lovely lyrics about little people like JANE, stop to consider that you are all the perpertrators of such bad feelings towards me. Just ask members of the Catatonia list. They think this list stinks as well. Roll on Conservatives. Probably needn't bother now looking at Labour. Still, people should realise that both traffic jams and hierarchy are essential to a thriving economy. GOODBYE FOR EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER I asked a question. I never said it was a "frigging service" oh actually I did. Oh well! bye Northy UNSUBSCRIBED ______________________________________________________ "Everyday, when I wake up, I thank the Lord I'm Welsh" Cerys Matthews - 1998 ________________________________________________________ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 22:01:36 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:01:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Wrong Love Message-ID: <01bd5770$6a75ca60$f22c63c3@dell> I AM VERY SAD, but: Wrong Love by Belle & Sebastian I went looking For my darling I went looking For a sign And I found her In the morning Somewhere in the back of my mind I'm not what I could be I need a true love I went looking and I found her The wrong love The wrong kind The wrong hand to be holding The wrong eyes to go searching blind The wrong dream to have in my mind I went looking For my darling I went looking For a sign And I found her In the morning Somewhere in the back of my mind I'm not what I could be I need a true love I went looking and I found her The wrong love The wrong kind The wrong hand to be holding The wrong eyes to go searching blind The wrong dream to have in my mind [Instrumental] I'm not what I could be I need some loving I went looking and I found some The wrong love The wrong kind The wrong hand to be holding The wrong eyes to go searching blind The wrong dream to have on my mind The wrong love The wrong eyes The wrong smile The wrong love The wrong love [Applause] Belle & Sebastian songs sound so much better when you have the lyrics to go with them, I find How young is the youngest person on the list? Me and bethey are just 15. Can anyone beat that? jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 22:08:14 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:08:14 +0000 Subject: Sinister: fine. ignore me then. References: <199803242056.UAA24379@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <35182ECE.575@seahouses.u-net.com> northy wrote: > > did I forget to say please? > > OK. Can someone please tell me the latest gig new? > > Dave and Katrina? > > Going to Morcheeba on Friday :) > > bye > > Northy Northy boy. Don't be a tit. People can only reply to you once they have actually RECEIVED and READ your mail. Don't assume everyone hates you and therefore won't reply to you. Actually DO assume everyone hates you, you'll be at home on the Radiohead list then (if such a thing exists). I shall answer your question to the best of my knowledge : There is NO gig news. As I don't work for the record company, this could be out of date info. JJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From davidrab at xxx.com Tue Mar 24 22:34:20 1998 From: davidrab at xxx.com (Hugh Rabagliati) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 22:34:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Wrong Love..altho more of an age thang.. Message-ID: <01bd5774$fd2c3e80$ba3163c3@ast> >Belle & Sebastian songs sound so much better when you have the lyrics to go >with them, I find > >How young is the youngest person on the list? Me and bethey are just 15. >Can anyone beat that? > >jon g. >jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ Oooo....i was 15 on this list 4 ages....but now ive been 16 4 a day and its not much different...but i was 15 4 aaaaages Hugh ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From krivas at xxx.gov Tue Mar 24 22:11:56 1998 From: krivas at xxx.gov (Kimberly Rivas-Plata) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:11:56 -0400 Subject: Sinister: gee whiz Message-ID: everyone's favorite conservative wrote: >This list stinks sniff, sniff....smells fine to me. >Just ask members of the Catatonia list. They think this list stinks >as well. I never realized that the members of the Catatonia list were the all-knowing gurus of mailing-list etiquette. >Roll on Conservatives. Probably needn't bother now looking at >Labour. Still, people should realise that both traffic jams and >hierarchy are essential to a thriving economy. ok now here's where I must say that if you're going to voice strong opinions on a subject - politics, music or whatever - you should be prepared to stand up to the rebuttals that they are sure to envoke. on the other hand, there have been a few unwarranted outlashings on the list, particularly on the eager new enthusiasts..... yeah, it may be annoying to read yet another Tigermilk request, but hey, we were all there once (cept for those fortunate few who have their own vinyl copies). and thanks everyone who's contributed to book recommendations. I now have a list of books a mile long to look out for on future trips to librarys and bookstores. I'd recommend something too if I could, but I haven't read that much lately apart from scientific journals and textbooks - BORING! I'm just happy now cause Eddie Izzard is doing a 8-week stint in NYC! yeahhhhh!!!! izzog man rules! Crazy Cell-Counter Kim ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rmckay at xxx.edu Tue Mar 24 22:24:28 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 17:24:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: bye for now... Message-ID: i have to unsubb for 2 weeks as the relatives are over from england and have taken over the room with the computer so i will have limited access (basically just at school 2 days a week MW) so if i had a trade on with anyone for tigermilk or anything else, fear not i am still on line..just a bit slower at answering mail.. take care roberta **oh you look so tired mouth slack and wide ill-housed and ill-advised your face is as mean as your life has been crash into my arms i want you****** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From kschaffe at xxx.edu Wed Mar 25 00:48:14 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 18:48:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: a good read Message-ID: Oooh, I've just started reading Rick Moody's THE ICE STORM. I started flipping through the pages on the walk back from the library, and found myself so engrossed, I was hit by a car. I write from a full body cast, several hours later. The good news is that the book wasn't terribly soiled by my blood or tire tracks, so I'm off to read more. Someone said to me today that if there is a bright star of fashion in this universe or on this planet (maybe Tokyo?), then Trinity University is the furthest point from that star. So far this week, I have seen FIVE knee length denim skirts, a staple in my fifth grade wardrobe. The good news is that none of these garmets were acid washed. The bad news is that even our local Gap has been displaying these skirts (and, mind you, I do live in a big city). This phenomenon leaves me cold and frightened. A friend mentioned once that his personal (and only) rule of fashion is no denim above the waist. I wish to further extend this rule to no denim that starts above the knees. I propose a worldwide ban on denim skirts and shorts (especially the really short, creepy variety that Texan girls are fond of), and where better to begin than on the Belle and Sebastian list. Sorry if I've offended any acid-washed miniskirt and jacket wearers, but this is an issue I feel strongly about and can no longer ignore. Jon Parker- Thanks for the "Century" booklet; it's beautiful. I also really enjoyed Paradiso, which I read between classes. Emily Pickles- Gordon sends his love and the Juice Tiger is working well. -Kristen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From twinkle at xxx.net Wed Mar 25 02:15:28 1998 From: twinkle at xxx.net (minigo) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:15:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: obsessiveness: geeky or cool? Message-ID: <199803250215.VAA05743@trapdoor.aracnet.net> Hello hello, New here, feeling a little cautious about posting--(opening night nerves!! someone give me a shot of voddie and a slap on the back, would you?) So be kind, that's all I ask. :) > I went on to the chat site last night and was having the usual >music-y conversation when it was mentioned that perhaps people (such as >those on list this list) who are really into music have no life. Is this >true? Do "normal" people see such activities as being obsessive about a >particular band or genre as sad? Or does the obsession hold a mystique >that makes these people seem more interesting than they really are?(Are >people into to music simply for this very reason?) Spod, I didn't think you were serious about posting that! It 'twas me that said that, but it was partially in jest. A reference to the (ok) book "High Fidelity" by Nick Hornby. Over-rated by now but still hits home with anyone who's a music junkie. The meaning behind mixed tapes for your crushes, spending hours re-arranging your record collections, refusing to be friends with people who like Simple Minds... And I quote the passage that struck me the most (forgive me if this book's been discussed before, it's brief je promets!) : "The unhappiest people I know, romantically speaking, are the ones who like pop music the most; and I don't know whether pop music has created this unhappiness, but I do know that they've been listening to the sad songs longer than they've been leading the unhappy lives." At any rate, I know I turn into a little hobbit when I'm in my "only B & S will do" moods. It's music that naturally makes me somewhat reclusive, which isn't a bad thing, but I do tend to hole up a bit and forget about being social. (NB: Then again, "lazy line-painter jane" is INCREDIBLE to dance to when you're out.) What I *really* need to do is attend one of these Sinister Picnics I'm hearing about, and then I'll have a healthy balance. ;) As for other people I know, the most music-obsessed of them happily admit to having little to no life, as far as the "average" life goes. Work is simply a way to get pay cheques to pay for records and new fab speakers and the best record needle on the market. They emerge only for the gigs they simply can't miss. I would say being an ultimate music junkie is akin to being a computer programmer. The characters from 'Microserfs', for example, are pretty much the same as the ones in High Fidelity, only with Pentiums as opposed to owning a mint Stax '45 collection. Some people might think that pathetic, but at the end of the day, if you're happy, it matters not what anyone says. > It's like paying £££'s for TM when it isn't really worth that much >(certainly not to me anyway). Is the price so high because of the >coolness factor that is associated with the records rather than the >songs themselves? Like anything, it can split off into different camps. My friend has paid ooodles of money to get his Lee Hazlewood Swedish-issue records, but he paid it only because he HAD to have them. It's a compulsion, to complete the puzzle and sit there looking at them with a glow of pride. Then you've got the types another friend has complained to me about, people collecting Northern Soul, paying exhorbitant prices for '45's only to NEVER play them. Dishing out major attitude about what they own to score cred/social points. Stuff like that turns my stomach. Another thought: do people fill their lives with music when there's something missing in their lives, especially love? I'm sure I do, a bit. elisa xx p.s. I've been enjoying the IRC chat quite a lot-- flabbergasted to meet people who know people I know, etc. Small world, indeed. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sinister at xxx.net Wed Mar 25 02:42:31 1998 From: owner-sinister at xxx.net (owner-sinister at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:42:31 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199803250242.CAA18207@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> From owner-sinister at xxx.net Wed Mar 25 02:42:10 1998 From: owner-sinister at xxx.net (owner-sinister at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:42:10 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199803250242.CAA18201@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> From jheid at xxx.edu Wed Mar 25 03:23:09 1998 From: jheid at xxx.edu (Jason Heid) Date: Tue, 24 Mar 1998 21:23:09 -0600 Subject: Sinister: re: fashism Message-ID: <3518789D.F08FA12A@trinity.edu> Schaffenberger wrote: > Oooh, I've just started reading Rick Moody's THE ICE STORM. I started > flipping through the pages on the walk back from the library, and found > myself so engrossed, I was hit by a car. I write from a full body cast, > several hours later. The good news is that the book wasn't terribly > soiled by my blood or tire tracks, so I'm off to read more. > > Someone said to me today that if there is a bright star of fashion in > this universe or on this planet (maybe Tokyo?), then Trinity University > is the furthest point from that star. I think whoever said this is terribly horribly depressingly wrong. haven't you ever been to the Rivecenter, a mere few miles from our beloved Trinity on a Friday night? Them high school gals and boys, they have a thing or two to show the world about fashion inadequacy. all that said. you ever notice that "fashion police" and "fascist police" sound awfully god-damned similar? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From escossia at xxx.br Wed Mar 25 05:20:24 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 02:20:24 -0300 Subject: Sinister: Sessions Message-ID: <199803250224.CAA08253@gemeos.electus.com.br> Jon g , The *Wrong Love* Real Audio File file in your page was GREAT. Now we are waiting for "Sleep The Clock Around", "Slow Graffiti", "Seymour Stein" and the different Version of "Lazy Line Painter Jane" God Save Jon !!!!!! :o) Ivo A P Escossia escossia at electus.com.br ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . 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Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-sinister at xxx.net Wed Mar 25 06:42:10 1998 From: owner-sinister at xxx.net (owner-sinister at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 06:42:10 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199803250642.GAA20691@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> From Axidavid at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 08:11:12 1998 From: Axidavid at xxx.com (David Leloup) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:11:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fox in the snow Message-ID: <00a201bd57c5$b6990f60$3b4fe8c3@default> (I sent this message two weeks ago but in HTML/RTF format so i repost ) Hi everybody I'm new to this list and just want to introduce myself to all list members My name is david and i'm from France. My fave bands/artists are 'The Posies', Teenage Fanclub, Neil Young, Nick Drake (I'm lististening to Radiohead, supergrass, cardigans and some Trip Hop stuff too) What a big surprise when i first listen to 'when ... sinister' The voice is so sensitive, it seems so close to you The guitar and other instrument are so fine It makes me almost cry ... My first question : Can someone tell me what the song 'fox in the snow' is about specially the last sentences : it only happens once a year it only happens once a lifetime making most of it (I love this song) Hoping Belle and Sebastian will becoming famous in France and anywhere else .. David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 10:13:28 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:13:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: once in a lifetime.. Message-ID: <199803251014.KAA07244@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> That's a subject sure to get you Runrig fans perking up...sorry, false alarm David Leloup wrote about the Fox in the Snow >it only happens once a year >it only happens once a lifetime >making most of it To me this has always made me think of winters in Oxford when I was a kid where there was only ever one snowy day a year. I was 8 when we moved there having been living in Ottawa, Canada for the last four years where frankly shortage of snow was never a problem. I found that I really missed the snow in winter and when that one snow day came it would be magical. I would tear around the house shouting "it's snowing" "it's snowing" and then put on my coat to rush outside and make the most of it. I can still remember the horror of being in the dentist's waiting room and seeing the first big flakes of snow fall and thinking "I'm going to miss the snow because of the dentist!!!" Of course winter in Glasgow is quite a different kettle of ballgames but that's what those lines have always meant to me. John ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Mar 25 10:18:25 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:18:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Jesus and the dream of Rockets Message-ID: Hey Rocketeers, B&S Fun ======= Amanda the Swan came to Scotland for the weekend. It was dead smart, we went to Edinburgh and she was excited cos she's never seen Marks And Spencers before. So I said "why don't we go in and turn some tables around". And she said "ok". So we went in but couldnae find any tables. There were some chairs but they had people on them. So instead Amanda turned a necklace around, and I turned around a hat and a bottle of perfume. Hehe. Then we went to C&A and then I was getting quite into all this and wanted to go to Boots to get a free book on VD but she'd been in Boots before so we didn't. Nonsense ======== Eeek! The Turin Shroud is not a fake it is real, say some scientists and my pal Craig. Apparently they got some Jesus DNA from it, and they're going to clone Jesus! Bad move if you ask me. Fundamental law of Sci-fi, any cloned messiah will be evil. We're all for it! He'll melt our faces like in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Hold on, if they cloned Jesus, that would be like a birth without a mother, sort of virgin birth again. Oh shite, I'm scared. If Saddam doesn't get me with his anthrax spunk laced Marlboro 100's, evil Jesus will choke me with his forked fire tongue. Ooops sorry Honey that's the outside world. But Jesus is within everyone of us. Silver and Gold have I none. But even if I did, I wouldn't pay 200 pounds for a record unless it came with a free child. Here, all you pretty young things don't read this next bit, it's rude. It's certificate 18. I went to a public toilet the other day. I was standing at the urinal taking care of the matter in hand, and two urinals along there was an old jakey bloke taking care of his matter in hand. In fact he was masturbating at the urinal. Well I never! Why do these things always happen to me? Call the cops! Why do I keep telling people this? See what you bastards have done to Northy! Good work, The hard-core, plain oral-sex nerd. (~anag~) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 10:25:31 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:25:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the radio song Message-ID: <01bd57d8$56d209c0$LocalHost@dell> I keep getting emails asking me to email Wrong Love to people, so just to reinforce it: Here's what you have to do: 1 - Open The RealPlayer (Version 5 or above, available from http://www.real.com) 2 - Click 'File -> Open Location...' (It may be different on a non-pc version) 3 - The file you want is http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/wronglove.ra 4 - It should work If it doesn't, just download it normally through your browser and play it off your hard disk. If anyone has email only access to the net through their work, then email me again. I keep worrying over whether i have broken the new faq rules! Anyway, paul - I think the new faq is good, it says what you need to say well and it is not too boring to read. thanks jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 10:21:59 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 10:21:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Oven Growl (anag) Message-ID: <01bd57d7$d8631840$LocalHost@dell> -----Original Message----- From: Rod Begbie To: Strange Bed-Fellows Date: 24 March 1998 16:44 Subject: Sinister: Oven Growl (anag) >> To hear Wrong Love, the track that Belle & Sebastian played on tonight's >> Evening Session, go to >> http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ > >Jon -- I love you and want to have your babies. Thanks for that, cause I >completely forgot to listen to the radio last night. Rod - I don't think you paid attention in Biology. There is a slight problem. We could always adopt, I suppose. jong jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 11:10:24 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:10:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the radio song Message-ID: <01bd57de$9c087c80$813763c3@dell> -----Original Message----- From: Honey To: jon g. Date: 25 March 1998 10:54 Subject: Re: Sinister: the radio song >I'm dead impressed with your RA - good >work I say. I could put the rest of the sessions up there, but I don't know how many people haven't heard them. If you haven't heard them and want to, just mail me at jon.g at btinternet.com It solves all the international post expenses with tapes and stuff, which is good. bye jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alkl6163 at xxx.ae Wed Mar 25 15:19:35 1998 From: alkl6163 at xxx.ae (Katrina Shepherd) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:19:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: hmmmmmmmmmmm Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980325151935.0067ff1c@emirates.net.ae> isn't it funny how one moment you're on cloud 9 and the next you're in the deepest pits of hell? or vica versa? it's a funny old life. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From sburon at xxx.fr Wed Mar 25 12:34:11 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (stéphane buron) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:34:11 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Useless message References: <19980324175335.29893.rocketmail@send1a.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <3518F9BB.43A@club-internet.fr> Nick Dastoor wrote: > So my point is I don't think we shouldn't always tell people off for > not looking in the archives just because something has come up before > - it can be hard to find things. and you're right... > God I'm boring. You're not, but I AM (and bored at work, too...) By the way, do listees REALLY like the Super Furry Animals and the Bluetones??? My god! Then Elisa wrote : > Another thought: do people fill their lives with music when there's something missing in their lives, especially love? I'm sure I do, a bit. Lovesick on a sunny afternoon??? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From aevans at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 11:37:18 1998 From: aevans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:37:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Exeter Airport Access Improvement Message-ID: <01BD57E2.5F30C8E0@pc07628> I wrote some nonsense about a cat with chuffing great sidies who stole post-office vans and licked pavements and stuff. Katrina told me orf in her corporate *haven't got time for this bollocks again* manner. >Nick wrote : >God I'm boring. Oh and.... >So my point is I don't think we shouldn't always tell people off for >not looking in the archives just because something has come up before >it can be hard to find things. Here here.... Nick I want your babies.... For medical experiments. >Honeygrrrrrrrrrrrr wrote : >PLEASE READ: FAQ NO. Not because I'm an obstinate barst, but because as I told Katrina, I no longer have my internet privelages, because some twat of a Senior Local Govt Officer up north somewhere decided he wanted to look at cheerleaders with things up there arses or something equally tasteful. So there you have it ladies and gentlemen. >Subversive Silver-tongued Sarah Student Starryone wrote : >i am confused by buses and paints and i can't get to exeter to see the >jasmine minks which is a shame as i very much like the tape of theirs that i >have, oh well nevermind. I'm going to see Cujo!!! ra! A bus is a form of public transport with wheels and things often painted red or other such colours like white or green. Contrary to popular belief some buses have big signs on the front that say "EXETER". Exeter has many buses. In one of your many moments of drunkardness, you might go out on a limb and offer the man who sits at the front of the bus (sometimes called a driver) copious amounts of Sterling so that he might take you to the aforementioned destination. Once there head for Queen Street, and the Cavern Club and meet lots of really nice (but mostly sarcastic) bumpkins..Oh, and Alistair seeing as he's organising it !!!! Alternatively hitch aride on the back of a tractor, it's sure to be coming down here somewhere. I'M GOING NOW !! Just in case I've included about sixteen previously asked questions in here somewhere. ooooooooooaarrrrrrrrrr, give us a pint of cider. Adrian. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 12:14:54 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:14:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the radio song Message-ID: <01bd57e7$9e70dae0$813763c3@dell> -----Original Message----- From: Honey To: jon g. Date: 25 March 1998 11:45 Subject: Re: Sinister: the radio song >On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, jon g. wrote: > >> I could put the rest of the sessions up there, but I don't know how many >> people haven't heard them. If you haven't heard them and want to, just mail >> me at jon.g at btinternet.com >> >> It solves all the international post expenses with tapes and stuff, which is >> good. > >Contractually of course I haven't a blind clue if you can be done for >this by the band, Jeepster (pretty unlikely :) or indeed the BBC. I Yeah - it is slightly worrying, but if they ask, I'll take it down. I don't really see what harm it's doing, because it's not like I'm putting stuff that's been released up there. >think I've got them all anyway - but doesn't it take up swathes of >disk and bandwidth and won't BT wine at you? Oh well - good on you >anyway. BT can whine (notice h!!) at me all they want - I pay the bill, so I can do what I want. Anyway, the whole of Wrong Love and the chat, which is over 5 minutes long, took up about 460kb, which is not that much - I have 5mb and nothing much else to put on it that no-one else has said. > >Paul > > jong jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 11:40:40 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 11:40:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The High Message-ID: <01bd57e2$d63d7820$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >> > got a question. Does anybody know if The High, The La's, > >don't know about The High, Funny you should mention about the high... Tag and myself found a "Best of the High" album kicking about in HMV in Edinburgh which we thought was pretty funny - given that they only had one album in the first place... (at least as far as I'm aware of) I don't know whether or not this best of affair just had the album tracks kind of rearranged on it or what. Box Set Go was a nice single though, pity the band were crap. Cheers, Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From 100670.3522 at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 14:12:32 1998 From: 100670.3522 at xxx.com (Ruth McCurry) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 09:12:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Ramble with 22 percent B and S content Message-ID: <199803250915_MC2-37EA-4406@compuserve.com> Hi everyone Traffic chaos round Covent Garden right now, as there's some kind of student march going on. They've got huge drums and everything, like a south american football crowd. They seem to be protesting about tuition fees. I think there should be a minimum age of 25 for university entrance. That way you might actually know if you really want to go or not. If most people got jobs (or whatever) between the ages of 18 and 25, I bet they'd be a lot more sorted at the end of it. Oh dear, I have a feeling this isn't going to be a terribly popular point of view. Everyone I knew at university (in Newcastle) had no real desire to study - we were just wasting precious time. Fun, yeah, but a waste of time. Towards the end, I taught groups of first-year students English Lit, and none of them gave a monkey's about reading the books or thinking. We used to end up talking about Neighbours. Perhaps this is a reflection of my appalling teaching skills. Anyway, moving on to the point. This is a very dull question, but there's some interesting shit around it. What is the best concert/gig/commercial rock-oriented event you've ever been to? The thing is, I really like plays and drama, but I have never ever seen a piece of theatre that has made me feel amazing. Whereas I've seen loads of mediocre bands who have, somehow, made me scream, cry, jump up and down like a supergrass video, and so on. It's always odd bands like the Paris Angels that stand out in my memory. And the Waterboys at Oxford Apollo in 1989: absolutely bloody incredible. They were really on to something for a while there. I saw the smiths three times, and I long to say that they knocked my little black socks off, but they didn't. I was too excited to enjoy them. That sucks, doesn't it? I think the best concerts always involve some form of euphoria. Paris Angels did (drug-related, maybe) and the Waterboys in a (god I hate this word) spiritual way. Which leads me to B and S. I must have seen five or six hundred bands over the last fifteen years, but nothing remotely comparable to our hero/ines. How can this be explained? Are there any other people on the list around the age of 30 who feel the same? Jon.g and bethey are only fifteen: do you understand quite how unique this band are? Even though they shamble around on stage like a bunch of fools, the end result astonishes me every time. I'm going to have a lie down. You need an afternoon nap at my age. Lots of love, apologies if this seems aimless. DAVID ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From keith at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 14:39:31 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 14:39:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ramble with 22 percent B and S content Message-ID: <01bd57fb$d285bdf0$250129c2@rainbow.qss.co.uk> >Which leads me to B and S. I must have seen five or six hundred bands over >the last fifteen years, but nothing remotely comparable to our hero/ines. >How can this be explained? Are there any other people on the list around >the age of 30 who feel the same? Jon.g and bethey are only fifteen: do you >understand quite how unique this band are? Even though they shamble around >on stage like a bunch of fools, the end result astonishes me every time. I do know exactly what you mean, I've had pretty much the same experience as you except with the Stone Roses rather than the Smiths, being five years younger than you, but again none of them match Belle and Sebastian, no other band would drag me further than a train journey to Glasgow to go and see them and I went to Manchester and was all ready to go to London last year too. Lots of stuff about it is different, it's more like going to actually listen to some music rather than be thrown around in a massive mob and "hear" music being played at 150 dBs which it's basically impossible to hear. It's also like a preview of a load of new songs too cause they always play stuff you haven't heard yet which I like. Plus they do them in different sorts of places - which is kind of like what the Roses did (at least, when they ruled), which makes you feel that it's a bit more special. Pity the Kelvingrove park do didn't come off, I think that would've been great fun. I hope they should attempt some sort of outdoor thingy again sometime. Keith. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 15:16:36 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:16:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ramble with 22 percent B and S content Message-ID: <01bd5801$00c405a0$LocalHost@dell> -----Original Message----- From: Ruth McCurry <100670.3522 at xxx.com> To: Sinister Date: 25 March 1998 14:21 Subject: Sinister: Ramble with 22 percent B and S content >Which leads me to B and S. I must have seen five or six hundred bands over >the last fifteen years, but nothing remotely comparable to our hero/ines. >How can this be explained? Are there any other people on the list around >the age of 30 who feel the same? Jon.g and bethey are only fifteen: do you >understand quite how unique this band are? Even though they shamble around >on stage like a bunch of fools, the end result astonishes me every time. Well, when I we (me and bethey) saw them in Manchester in December, it was my first ever gig! Therefore, nothing will compare to them, if what you say is true. I do sort of understand how wonderful B&S now, I think. Nothing comes close to the (god I hate this word too) spiritual feeling that Belle & Sebastian put inside me (apart from Arab Strap, but that's I different feeling - B&S are about love and Arab Strap are about hate). I see people at school listening to things like Robbie Williams' Angels and saying it's a really spiritual song and they can cry at it and I know that they are too naive to understand that there is so much better out there, than some fat melodramatic warbler who needs a bit of cash. Anyway, if I don't realise how good they are, I will do when they're gone. Keith said: >Lots of stuff about it is different, it's more like going to actually >listen to some music rather than be thrown around in a massive mob and >"hear" music being played at 150 dBs which it's basically impossible to >hear. Here here. jon g. jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 15:55:47 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 15:55:47 -0000 Subject: FW: Sinister: Ramble & confusion. Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F8AE@RMF1> > Hi everyone > > Traffic chaos round Covent Garden right now, as there's some kind of > student march going on. They've got huge drums and everything, like a > south > american football crowd. They seem to be protesting about tuition > fees. I > think there should be a minimum age of 25 for university entrance. > That way > you might actually know if you really want to go or not. If most > people got > jobs (or whatever) between the ages of 18 and 25, I bet they'd be a > lot > more sorted at the end of it. Oh dear, I have a feeling this isn't > going to > be a terribly popular point of view. Everyone I knew at university (in > Newcastle) had no real desire to study - we were just wasting precious > time. Fun, yeah, but a waste of time. Towards the end, I taught groups > of > first-year students English Lit, and none of them gave a monkey's > about > reading the books or thinking. We used to end up talking about > Neighbours. > Perhaps this is a reflection of my appalling teaching skills. > > I completly agree with you dave, I went college in Durham, no-one really gave a shit there either. It was just another chance to avoid working life. Of course there are many acceptions but I do think that there is an awful lot of people who just wasting away tax payers money and part of me agrees what Labour are doing. However, I have come out of college in so much debt that it seems I'm never going to be free of it, it's like every penny I ever earn is never going to be mine. So maybe I don't completly agree with you after all. Now I'm realy confused. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 3130 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rod at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 16:53:02 1998 From: rod at xxx.com (Rod Begbie) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:53:02 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Handbags at twenty paces Message-ID: Jesus! Is there too much caffine in the water today, or something? I've never seen so much bitching on this list! First of all, Katrina House wrote: > pray tell stephen, what exciting publications (besides teletext) do you > write for? then, darling northy wrote: > This list stinks > GOODBYE FOR EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER > UNSUBSCRIBED and to top it all off, Tag had a go at me, saying > Isn't technology wonderful? Before I had email access, the > indescribably sexy world of yet another eligible young bachelor, Rod > (Rod by name, ROD by nature) Begbie, was just the stuff of a madman's > dreams. As he himself says: > >He's like a Bill Gates without a Microsoft Fucks sake, people. Hey Honey! Any chance you can bring back that "Happy Bunnies" tagline, cause since you've changed it, things have become pish. For the record, the e-mail Tag was bitching about was when I tried anagramming his signature and got "Robert LL McTaggart". When I e-mailed him, I didn't actually know what his real name was -- all I knew was the sign-off "Tag". My e-mail was asking if my anagram was his real name. I never got a private reply from him, just a heap of abuse to the list. FWIW, I have no idea why "Tag" has such animosity towards me. I post no more and no less shite than most. Hey Tag! If you *do* have a problem with what I post, then kill-file me. Otherwise, quit gurning. I hope you catch a virus from the enemies in Star Trek: ATTRACT BORG GERM! Now onto flufflier topics: First of all, does anyone else find that jon.g's RealAudio file "jumps" at 4m42s, or is it just my copy? On Tue, 24 Mar 1998, Sarah wrote: > Mick is dudey cos he liks SFA I've just rediscovered Radiator, after not playing it much last year. Fuck me! It's brilliant! I raked it out after seeing Demons played on that NME Brat show in January, and it's been in my CD player since. Well up to the standards of Fuzzy Logic. Finally, I've just put up a beta of my CD Database browser on my website. If you go to http://www.begbie.com/local-cgi-bin/cds.pl you can browse through the CD Database from my CD-ROM player (CD Wizzard -- highly recommended if you've got a PC) Luv & snogs to you all! Rod. Rod Begbie @ http://www.begbie.com | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | I used to think my dad was Elvis, but I haven't told him that | yet. I haven't told my dad either... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 25 17:07:22 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:07:22 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Handbags at twenty paces In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, Rod Begbie wrote: > Fucks sake, people. Hey Honey! Any chance you can bring back that "Happy > Bunnies" tagline, cause since you've changed it, things have become pish. Lord, I didn't know I had that much of an effect on you all. OK, but I won't put it back until you all behave - I've been guilty of being a grumpy sod recently too here so I'm giving it all up for Lent, and apologies to all I've been rude to. I will be sweetness and light - erm, unless someone shows they haven't read the FAQ, or does some serious slagging :) The only reason to be nasty on this list is if you are the list manager and someone's wrecking it. Shit, that should be in the FAQ as well. Let's start with a clean sheet ok? Mummy's putting her foot down. You can be as rude as you want to someone privately but don't you dare on the list. Be nice or be gone. Honey xxx P.S. Addition to the FAQ - hope it's OK with Andrew but then he's away just now haha: 19. Please can I have a tape of Tigermilk / some sessions? You can imagine this is such a common question that it's probably the most frequently asked one on the list. Andrew Dean has offered to try and take these requests off the list by setting up a dating agency - if you mail him your request he will try and match you up with someone reasonably local who has offered to do it for people. In return please volunteer to do some taping for someone else - tell Andrew. You can reach Andrew at koogydelbbog at yahoo.com - please mail Andrew rather than the list unless you get no response. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From thaiant at xxx.gov Wed Mar 25 17:32:37 1998 From: thaiant at xxx.gov (Thaian N Ton ) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:32:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Foxes & Fakers Message-ID: <35193FA5.8025E8FC@pop.nci.nih.gov> Hello everybody ... David Leloup (oh i like the name!!) wrote: it only happens once a year it only happens once a lifetime make the most of it so, myself, being a romantic figured: it's about l.o.v.e. (cos it's second just to being born & dying too ...) and a big, big cheer to jon parker cos he sends cool packages & anyone who hasn't seen the century of fakers bookie is missing out on something way fab. take care, be whole, be parts, be happy, thaian (stinky monchichi) xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From adamrobinson at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 17:26:51 1998 From: adamrobinson at xxx.uk (Adam Robinson) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:26:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: college, gigs, and the theatrical experience Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From caz at xxx.jp Wed Mar 25 18:04:06 1998 From: caz at xxx.jp (maruta kazuya) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:04:06 +0900 Subject: Sinister: so long Message-ID: <980326024909.3846B523.0205702@mvc.biglobe.ne.jp> On Mon,23 Mar 1998, jon g. wrote: > To hear Wrong Love, the track that Belle & Sebastian played on tonight's > Evening session, go to > http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ Jon - Thanks a lot, it was GREAT! I wanted to hear this song on the radio actually but couldn't, cause I am on a member of the list who lives in Tokyo - lots of people are into B&S here I know - Its a pity. kaz: caz at mvc.biglobe.ne.jp ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Wed Mar 25 17:59:00 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 12:59:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: skating a pirouette on ice is cool, but when there's still ice in spring, it's sad (fwd) Message-ID: well it was not this teri that's for sure. winter's the best time for clothing. did you know that babiesconceived in the spring are taller?? is new belle and sab merch cooming out anytime soon, i'd love a record bag with them. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "and the times that we all hoped would last, like a train they have gone by so fast and though we stood together on the edge of the platform, we were not moved by them" On 24 Mar 1998, Martin Conneely wrote: > Olafia and Teri wrote, complaining about winter: > > ">yes yes yes,,, we should form a support group: people recovering from > >winter,or manic winter depressive( no, thats just me). > NO! it's me too! > > > I should just face it, spring never arrives here before end of april, but > after 6 > >months of winter, it does get to you a little doesn't it. > a little? sigh... a lot actually... i'm so tired of wearing 5 million layers > of clothes and boots when it's so close to april. if the snow doesnt melt > before my birthday, i don't know what i'll do... [insert sound of a ticking > timebomb here]" > > I came across 2 very short poems which might help: > > winter is as ugly > as an arm hair > --Jeremy Hartman > [I don't know what that means either] > > > The bitter winter storm > will always produce a delirious spring > symphony > so think about a fall > in love next summer > --Bennett J. Berson > > > Martin C > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. > . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". > . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see > . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net > . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From buffalo at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 18:28:35 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:28:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ramble - from 22 to 2 References: <199803250915_MC2-37EA-4406@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <35194CD3.6B20BD62@easynet.co.uk> First, the (arbitrary) 2 per cent B & S content. My favourite book. Russell Hoban's 'Riddley Walker', the tail of a boy struggling in a future post-apocalyptic Britain. It's written in a 'worn down vernacular', a kind of pidgin English, where places and events that we know today have have been handed down, mostly by word of mouth, and as such their meanings have been transformed. It's fairly hard to get into at first, but after a while you fall into the rhythm of the language. Anyone who's read Trainspotting will probably know what I mean (although I hasten to add it's many miles from that book in just about all other respects). It's quite the most beautiful thing I've ever read, and I can't help thinking about it when I hear the beginning of 'The Boy Done Wrong Again', my favourite B & S song. For the rude people on the list (and some of you seem schizophrenic in your abuse of the medium) the next bit is not B & S related, but is related to a post sent in recently. Anyone who still takes exception will be a first-hand witness to a my refutation of the phrase 'violence solves nothing'. For half an hour. Up and down the Uxbridge Road..So cock off. Noddy. DAVID wrote: > I think there should be a minimum age of 25 for university entrance. > That way > you might actually know if you really want to go or not. If most > people got > jobs (or whatever) between the ages of 18 and 25, I bet they'd be a > lot > more sorted at the end of it. Oh dear, I have a feeling this isn't > going to > be a terribly popular point of view. This is a similar view to that espoused by Rober Pirsig in 'Zen and The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance'. He argues that people learn much more when they actually have a desire to learn, rather than being told 'these are the years you go to school - you gotta listen' or 'you gotta get a degree to get on'. He goes on to champion a greater emphasis on teaching for people who have found their 'vocation' and need training to further themselves. Certainly in Britain 95% of the emphasis in teaching and training seems to be (rather haphazardly) aimed at actually getting a job, rather than (more accurately ?) at job/self furtherment. that's it for another six weeks, yerluvinuncleTurt Richard Buckner, 'Bloomed' - anyone phucked ? ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From barry.dorrans at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 18:52:35 1998 From: barry.dorrans at xxx.uk (Barry Dorrans) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:52:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Foxes & Fakers In-Reply-To: <35193FA5.8025E8FC@pop.nci.nih.gov> Message-ID: <06a9e5245181938VINDALOO@connect-2.co.uk> Hey potato girl :) I have your CDs waiting. > From: Thaian N Ton [mailto:thaiant at xxx.gov] > it only happens once a year > it only happens once a lifetime > make the most of it > > so, myself, being a romantic figured: it's about l.o.v.e. (cos it's > second just to being born & dying too ...) Love only happens once a lifetime?! Cherub you're turning insane :) I think it's taxs, and the once a lifetime is a refund. > (stinky monchichi) Hmm I'll have to talk to you about this Barry (who's pissed off because he's doing his PAYE right now) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From AlanPrior at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 18:59:19 1998 From: AlanPrior at xxx.com (Alan Prior) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 13:59:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Ramble with 22 percent B and S content Message-ID: <199803251359_MC2-37EB-A73D@compuserve.com> Message text written by David/Ruth McCurrypersonthingy >Everyone I knew at university (in Newcastle) had no real desire to study - we were just wasting precious time. Fun, yeah, but a waste of time. Towards the end, I taught groups of first-year students English Lit, and none of them gave a monkey's about reading the books or thinking. < Thing is, the reason I did take Eng. Lit. was because I always loved the idea of taking a subject that involved reading and thinking about books for 3 or 4 years...maybe I'm just sad, but that kinda thing has always appealed to me- that's why I'm not taking art, cause I don't think i'd learn all that much except how to paint better/differently. Of course, I've always preferred reading the books to actually writing about them, but that's not really the point, is it? Anyway, favourite gigs...um, B&S are/were one of my faves, I'm sure (oh, it seems like so long ago now). Music seems to be the only thing that really makes me happy just now, there's a certain uplifting quality in melancholy that gets me every time. I dunno, for every good point at a gig there usually seems to be a bad one that brings it down (like idiot crowdsurfers landing on my head & nearly breaking my neck. Not fun.) So, yeah, Belle and Sebastian. Because it was so beautiful, and I fell in love with them all over again- just as I did when I received a copy of Tigermilk in the post from the lovely david on Friday...mmm, bliss. Todays favourite B&S songs; 'She's Losing It', and 'I Don't Love Anyone'. Yum. Oh, and would someone be able to tell me the set list from the Embra show last year? Would be ever so grateful. Cheers. luv always, Debbie xxx. PS; here's a wee (ha!) extra bit I just received, recent (and, as far as I can make out, genuine) headlines from U.S. newspapers. This was forwarded to me by a dark figure from my past, but it's still piss-self funny. To be read out loud, slowly and with much gravitas..... 1. Something Went Wrong in Jet Crash, Expert Says 2. Police Begin Campaign to Run Down Jaywalkers 3. Safety Experts Say School Bus Passengers Should Be Belted 4. Drunk Gets Nine Months in Violin Case 5. Survivor of Siamese Twins Joins Parents 6. Farmer Bill Dies in House 7. Iraqi Head Seeks Arms 8. Is There a Ring of Debris around Uranus? 9. Stud Tires Out 10. Prostitutes Appeal to Pope 11. Panda Mating Fails; Veterinarian Takes Over 12. British Left Waffles on Falkland Islands 13. Lung Cancer in Women Mushrooms 14. Eye Drops off Shelf 15. Teacher Strikes Idle Kids 16. Reagan Wins on Budget, But More Lies Ahead 17. Squad Helps Dog Bite Victim 18. Shot Off Woman's Leg Helps Nicklaus to 66 19. Enraged Cow Injures Farmer with Axe 20. Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told 21. Miners Refuse to Work after Death 22. Juvenile Court to Try Shooting Defendant 23. Stolen Painting Found by Tree 24. Two Soviet Ships Collide, One Dies 25. Two Sisters Reunited after 18 years in Checkout Counter 26. Killer Sentenced to Die for Second Time in 10 Years 27. Drunken Drivers Paid $1000 in '84 28. War Dims Hope for Peace 29. If Strike isn't Settled Quickly, It May Last A While 30. Cold Wave Linked to Temperatures 31. Enfields Couple Slain; Police Suspect Homicide 32. Include your Children when Baking Cookies 33. Red Tape Holds Up New Bridge 34. Deer Kill 17,000 35. Typhoon Rips Through Cemetery; Hundreds Dead 36. Man Struck by Lightning Faces Battery Charge 37. New Study of Obesity Looks for Larger Test Group 38. Astronaut Takes Blame for Gas in Spacecraft 39. Kids Make Nutritious Snacks 40. Chef Throws His Heart into Helping Feed Needy 41. Arson Suspect is Held in Massachusetts Fire 42. British Union Finds Dwarfs in Short Supply 43. Ban On Soliciting Dead in Trotwood 44. Lansing Residents Can Drop Off Trees 45. Local High School Dropouts Cut in Half 46. New Vaccine May Contain Rabies 47. Man Minus Ear Waives Hearing 48. Deaf College Opens Doors to Hearing 49. Air Head Fired 50. Steals Clock, Faces Time 51. Prosecutor Releases Probe into Undersheriff 52. Old School Pillars are Replaced by Alumni 53. Bank Drive-in Window Blocked by Board 54. Hospitals are Sued by 7 Foot Doctors 55. Some Pieces of Rock Hudson Sold at Auction 56. Sex Education Delayed, Teachers Request Training 57. Porno videos, Home Secretary to act. Just thought you should know... ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From edkubisa at xxx.de Wed Mar 25 19:40:52 1998 From: edkubisa at xxx.de (egg) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:40:52 +0100 Subject: Sinister: wake up boo! Message-ID: <01bd5825$eb99c780$37108fc3@EdKubisa.cybernet-ag.de> I had an idea about setting up a web site for B&S listees.......a place for us all to put our ideas..pictures..words...thoughts...whatever..... I know that this is the point of this list, but a web site offers more possibilities......... any thoughts on the idea???.....it could be fun...! please correct me if this has already been done! Egg ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From bluesoda at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 20:16:37 1998 From: bluesoda at xxx.uk (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:16:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: NEWS MAILING LIST Message-ID: <35196625.ABDA2550@totalweb.co.uk> a lot of people have been moaning at me to mail them news when we have it so they don't have to stress their mailbox too much by being on sinister. since it does make sense to have a news only list (you won't be able to post to it!) that sends you a mail everytime there is news. i've gone and created one! ONLY jeepster records, the band and fan club will EVER mail you news from this source. as such it is guaranteed spam-free. you can subscribe and unsubscribe via the www ONLY. visit the url below and follow the obvious links from the main page. david kitchen - fan club -- ****************************************************************** belle and sebastian fan club mail-outs, IRC chat, lyrics, poetry, fiction, vote, records, artwork, news, merchandise, picnics http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/ mailto:d.kitchen at virgin.net or mailto:bluesoda at totalweb.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: vcard.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 313 bytes Desc: Card for Kitchen, David URL: From honey at xxx.net Wed Mar 25 20:43:45 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 20:43:45 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: NEWS MAILING LIST In-Reply-To: <35196625.ABDA2550@totalweb.co.uk> Message-ID: On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, David & Katrina wrote: > a lot of people have been moaning at me to mail them news when we have > it so they don't have to stress their mailbox too much by being on > sinister. > > since it does make sense to have a news only list (you won't be able to > post to it!) that sends you a mail everytime there is news. i've gone > and created one! For everyone's info - I've just mailed David and asked him to confirm that the Sinister list will be a member of his list - i.e. that you needn't subscribe twice, but if you stay here you'll see all the news just as quickly. Sending this just to encourage people to wait before subscribing until we get that confirmed. Honey xxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From blink at xxx.net Wed Mar 25 21:07:45 1998 From: blink at xxx.net (blink at xxx.net) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 16:07:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: ahhh...freaky Message-ID: <199803252107.QAA19261@Vector.inexpress.net> this is odd...i must have some part of my brain perma engraved to B&S...it was JUST last night i learn of thid 'Wrong Love'..and my DREAM last night: I was walking down the street when suddenly i see stuart murdoch selling hotdogs,even in my dream i'm debating in my head which song i should ask him about,so i go up to him and ask him to play 'the stars of track of and field' and he kneels down towards me like i'm some child and talks very gently "but genevieve,i can't PLAY that here,i'm a hot dog vendor" and i'm like 'oh,ok' and then he goes on "listen,have you heard Wrong Love?" i start sobbing "no no,you can only get it on the internet and i i haven't yet and my computer is mean" he nods understandingly "well when you do i want you to listen VERY carefully to the last 15 minutes of the song..." and tehn he told me to go to this room that had a magic plastic couch in it,the Belle And Sebastian couch,it was magical because you couldn't crawl under it (i don't know why that makes it magical) and i was going to draw a little picture(a box) on when i see that Stuart David wrote 'fuck off!' to me on the couch and i was upset...oh dear... chugga chugga choo choo genevieve ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From tangent at xxx.net Wed Mar 25 21:00:54 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:00:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Getting back to basics... what's wrong and what's right. References: <199803242145.VAA32524@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> Message-ID: <35197086.8870B1B@lineone.net> not going out to northy cos i don't care about him, i care about YOU.... > This list stinks > > all I have encountered from this list is hate. to love something you need to hate it's perceived opposite... if that's not evident to you then i don't really care. Pop is about confrontation, about drawing (personal) lines and standing by them. So those lines might change frequently, but that's not the point. it's having them that counts. > Just ask members of the Catatonia list. They think this list stinks > as well. i'm glad, because to me Catatonia are a load of irrelevent nonsense. they have bugger all to do with my Pop life, and that's fair enough. I'm glad that they think this list stinks because i think B&S are so massively removed from the Catatonic dirge of theirs... > Roll on Conservatives. Probably needn't bother now looking at > Labour. Still, people should realise that both traffic jams and > hierarchy are essential to a thriving economy. who gives a toss about labourconservative any more. it doesn't take a seer to know that there's no left and right anymore, just subtle shifts in the murky middle ground. to say roll on conservatives is pointless because when you stop and look around, what the fuck has changed? what the fuck will change? just more and more governmental controls designed to keep the nation under the rule of the few. why bother hoping for the return of the tories? it won't change a thing, not in the current guise... only if they go loony right wing will they be threateningly different. i want to know why you are putting any hope in politics at all? if you're so pissed off why are you not organising demonstrations, why are you not rioting and burning property? apart from the obvious reasons i mean... this goes out to everyone actually... i mean, what's wrong and what's right. What do you love, and what do you hate? do you even know? or are you content to go through the rest of your life in a cloud of consumptive manipulation? Surely one of the things that the rise of Belle & Sebastian have told us is that if you want to do things on your own terms, you CAN DO IT. if all B&S end up meaning is a bunch of records and people consuming the product, than it's a failure, at least in my eyes, and that's all that matters. I don't really care what the band say about it.... it's in my/our hands now and it's what we do with the spirit that's what matters. And where did the spirit go anyway? Why don't you listen to B&S and want to SCREAM and go and create and draw lines that say THIS IS BEAUTIFUL and THAT IS HATEFUL. i know it makes me feel this way... but i'm just a dreamer, a poor righteous teacher. keep the faith, kids. the duke -- Tangents On-Line http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/ PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From d.kitchen at xxx.net Wed Mar 25 21:05:29 1998 From: d.kitchen at xxx.net (David & Katrina) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:05:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: NEWS MAILING LIST References: Message-ID: <35197199.E508FED5@virgin.net> confirmed, Sinister and the web pages will NOT be deprived of any news. sinister is still the only place where you can actually discuss the band and any news. the news list is really for people who have very restricted e-mail access (small boxes, occasional access). the news list will only carry text announcements of mail-outs or press releases. most news will still be aired first by the usual method of word of mouth on this list. the news list however will carry the official word once details/dates and things are confirmed (sinister will get the mail too). sorry to have caused confusion. you don't have to subscribe to the news list if you're on the sinister list or the sinister digest. david -- Honey wrote: > > On Wed, 25 Mar 1998, David & Katrina wrote: > > > a lot of people have been moaning at me to mail them news when we have > > it so they don't have to stress their mailbox too much by being on > > sinister. > > > > since it does make sense to have a news only list (you won't be able to > > post to it!) that sends you a mail everytime there is news. i've gone > > and created one! > > For everyone's info - I've just mailed David and asked him to confirm that > the Sinister list will be a member of his list - i.e. that you needn't > subscribe twice, but if you stay here you'll see all the news just as > quickly. > > Sending this just to encourage people to wait before subscribing until we > get that confirmed. > > Honey xxx > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > . 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Name: vcard.vcf Type: text/x-vcard Size: 304 bytes Desc: Card for David & Katrina URL: From httpd at xxx.uk Wed Mar 25 21:21:42 1998 From: httpd at xxx.uk (apache binaries) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:21:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: Successful Addition to Mailing List Message-ID: <199803252121.VAA02798@mushroom.totalweb.net.uk> You have been successfully added to the mailing list through the form at http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/news.htm. If you would like to remove yourself from the list, visit http://www.totalweb.co.uk/bluesoda/news.htm. This list is a NEWS ONLY list, please do not attempt to send ANY mail to it. It won't respond! Thanks David Kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 21:42:53 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 21:42:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The indignation of Rod References: Message-ID: <35197A5D.4DFA@seahouses.u-net.com> Rod Begbie expressed some concern at the way his emails to the list were being treated. He may have even had some valid reasons. But then he wrote: > > I hope you catch a virus from the enemies in Star Trek: ATTRACT BORG > GERM! > Doh! JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 22:00:47 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 22:00:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the 'duke' speaks References: <199803242145.VAA32524@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> <35197086.8870B1B@lineone.net> Message-ID: <35197E8F.7AA5@seahouses.u-net.com> duke of harringaylord wrote: > And where did the spirit go anyway? Why don't you listen to B&S and > want to SCREAM and go and create and draw lines that say THIS IS > BEAUTIFUL and THAT IS HATEFUL. i know it makes me feel this way... You've still got your copies of Are You Scared To Get Happy haven't you.. JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 22:02:59 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 17:02:59 EST Subject: Sinister: Hello Magazine says Message-ID: <31c267cf.35197f15@aol.com> In a message dated 3/24/98 9:33:53PM, you write: << Next week, Stephen Trousers invites us into his beautiful pied a terre, and says "Poetry saved me from cocaine hell". >> Tag - who is this Stephen Trousers of which you speak? I ask simply because I, Stephen, Yours Truly (copyright Adam Ant) tried to change my pisspoor sign-on name to Trousers last week, and there's someone already using the name on AOL. Tigermilk is also taken, naturally. At this rate, I'll have to be Mr Lilac Time or something. (Weeps unconsolably) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From alkl6163 at xxx.ae Thu Mar 26 03:18:32 1998 From: alkl6163 at xxx.ae (Katrina Shepherd) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 03:18:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: 3...6...9 seconds of light Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19980326031832.0067e808@emirates.net.ae> can anyone tell me what 'le pastie de la bourgeoisie' means? i've tried to look it up but i still have absolutly no idea please help me! it's so annoying! love katrina ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Wed Mar 25 23:46:36 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5) Date: Wed, 25 Mar 1998 18:46:36 EST Subject: Sinister: the 'duke' speaks Message-ID: <3cff597.3519975f@aol.com> In a message dated 3/25/98 10:24:56PM, you write: << You've still got your copies of Are You Scared To Get Happy haven't you.. >> Is this a rhetorical question? AYSTGH, along with Troutfishing In Leytonstone (on a lesser scale) used to make me leap about the room when I was about 17. And the Anorak City flexi that came with the BESTest issue of that finest of fanzines still runs through my mind on a regular basis. This was a fanzine that said (excuse the paraphrasing, but it's from a rather addled memory) "We were on a bus a few weeks ago and we saw a Hurrah! poster. Both Clare and I agreed that they'd used the WRONG shade of blue..." - and it smelt so good as well. I agree totally with the ideals of passion, idealism, SCREAMing, love/hate, etc that the venerable Duke espouses.... are all the young soul rebels are tucked up in their beds? (my own passion died circa summer '95, since you asked, or not, as the case may be). Hey, maybe that's why I'm a journalisty! Whatever. Stephen, shrinking by the second. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From susannah at xxx.net Thu Mar 26 00:02:55 1998 From: susannah at xxx.net (susannah) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 98 00:02:55 GMT Subject: Sinister: I didn't know B&S were about hate............ Message-ID: <980326000255.n0010357.tormentor@mail.clara.net> The unique and irreplaceable Northy wrote: >This list stinks > >all I have encountered from this list is hate. It has in fact soured >my liking of B&S a litte. You know when you are listening to all >those lovely lyrics about little people like JANE, stop to consider >that you are all the perpertrators of such bad feelings towards me. > >Just ask members of the Catatonia list. They think this list stinks >as well. > I could just write : Oh for fucks sake 'Northy', but instead: Dear Readers. I have cunningly subscribed to the Catatonia mailing list and shall lurk there, undetected, gathering secret information, wearing nothing but a long Mac and trilby like spies wear, oh and horse trainers. I shall be reporting back at regular intervals to inform you of any untoward attacks on yourselves, and then, comrades, we shall strike when they least suspect it ! We shall defend our mailing list, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight them on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields, and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender! Alternatively we could just challenge them to a mud wrestling competition at this years glastonbury perhaps. In the nude. Eight puerile reasons why B&S are better than Catatonia: None of them are Welsh. susannah. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Thu Mar 26 00:03:37 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:03:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the 'duke' speaks References: <3cff597.3519975f@aol.com> Message-ID: <35199B59.75B9@seahouses.u-net.com> Essexdog5 writed (he's a journalist you know): > > << You've still got your copies of Are You Scared To Get Happy haven't > you.. > >> > > Is this a rhetorical question? AYSTGH, along with Troutfishing In Leytonstone > (on a lesser scale) used to make me leap about the room when I was about 17. No I was just insinuating that the 'duke' just says things like Matt Haynes used to in his fanzines. Years ago. That's all. I've heard it all before. And I wish he'd stop going on about the Jasmine Minks. Really. My favourite shalala flexi was the Razorcuts/Talulah Gosh one. Sad Kaleidoscope on her mind..or something.. JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Thu Mar 26 00:09:44 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:09:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Essexdog5 and the Death Of Passion References: <3cff597.3519975f@aol.com> Message-ID: <35199CC8.6741@seahouses.u-net.com> Essexdog5 wrote: >(my own passion died circa summer '95, since you > asked, or not, as the case may be). Hey, maybe that's why I'm a journalisty! No, go on, tell us all why your passion died circa summer 95. JJ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From johnj at xxx.com Thu Mar 26 00:15:00 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Jackson) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:15:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I didn't know B&S were about hate............ References: <980326000255.n0010357.tormentor@mail.clara.net> Message-ID: <35199E04.E2@seahouses.u-net.com> susannah stated bluntly, blunter than a blunt spoon: > Eight puerile reasons why B&S are better than Catatonia: > None of them are Welsh. > > susannah. OOOOOOOHHHHH! Blimey! But entirely correct. No offence! Is Northy Welsh? Why does he keep quoting that line from the Catatonia song? JJ xx ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jwg.wren at xxx.com Thu Mar 26 00:39:49 1998 From: jwg.wren at xxx.com (Jonathan Wren) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 00:39:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Getting back to basics... what's wrong and what's right. References: <199803242145.VAA32524@andromeda.ndirect.co.uk> <35197086.8870B1B@lineone.net> Message-ID: <3519A3D4.E17E9D0A@dial.pipex.com> duke of harringay wrote: > not going out to northy cos i don't care about him, i care about YOU.... > > > This list stinks > > > > all I have encountered from this list is hate. > > to love something you need to hate it's perceived opposite... if that's > not evident to you then i don't really care. Pop is about > confrontation, about drawing (personal) lines and standing by them. So > those lines might change frequently, but that's not the point. it's > having them that counts. Why exactly should pop be about confrontation? Why, because you love one thing, should that mean that you must programme yourself to hate something else? Isn't it that which makes people narrow-minded? Pop is about embracing things which mean something to you. Not anyone else. But it doesn't make people wrong. When you think you are always right then you're closing a lot of doors. > > > > Just ask members of the Catatonia list. They think this list stinks > > as well. > > i'm glad, because to me Catatonia are a load of irrelevent nonsense. > they have bugger all to do with my Pop life, and that's fair enough. > I'm glad that they think this list stinks because i think B&S are so > massively removed from the Catatonic dirge of theirs... > Not a very good joke. Incidentally, I love Catatonia and am going to see them at the Sheperds Bush Empire. So shoot me in the head... you have just failed your "faith" test and are listed for extermination. > > Roll on Conservatives. Probably needn't bother now looking at > > Labour. Still, people should realise that both traffic jams and > > hierarchy are essential to a thriving economy. > > who gives a toss about labourconservative any more. it doesn't take a > seer to know that there's no left and right anymore, just subtle shifts > in the murky middle ground. to say roll on conservatives is pointless > because when you stop and look around, what the fuck has changed? what > the fuck will change? just more and more governmental controls designed > to keep the nation under the rule of the few. why bother hoping for the > return of the tories? it won't change a thing, not in the current > guise... only if they go loony right wing will they be threateningly > different. i want to know why you are putting any hope in politics at > all? if you're so pissed off why are you not organising demonstrations, > why are you not rioting and burning property? apart from the obvious > reasons i mean... > > this goes out to everyone actually... i mean, what's wrong and what's > right. What do you love, and what do you hate? do you even know? or > are you content to go through the rest of your life in a cloud of > consumptive manipulation? You seem to be assuming that the majority of people on Sinister are stupid automatons incapable of questioning the world around them. On the basis of the intelligence of most postings, I'd have to disagree. > Surely one of the things that the rise of > Belle & Sebastian have told us is that if you want to do things on your > own terms, you CAN DO IT. if all B&S end up meaning is a bunch of > records and people consuming the product, than it's a failure, at least > in my eyes, and that's all that matters. I don't really care what the > band say about it.... it's in my/our hands now and it's what we do with > the spirit that's what matters. > Fair enough. But are Belle and Sebastian really the prophets of a better, utopian future? Much as I love it, a song about a girl painting lines isn't going to bring the establishment to its knees. > And where did the spirit go anyway? Why don't you listen to B&S and > want to SCREAM and go and create and draw lines that say THIS IS > BEAUTIFUL and THAT IS HATEFUL. i know it makes me feel this way... > but i'm just a dreamer, a poor righteous teacher. > And so am I. I wouldn't spend so much of my bloody time trying to write stories about the poetic and the beautiful if I wasn't or going to train as a teacher if I didn't feel I could affect peoples lives in some small way, like I'm sure you do. Like you say, maybe that's being a dreamer. But when I listen to B&S I only think of melancholy, happiness and tomorrow. I can't believe anyone feels hate after listening to The State I Am In or Fox In The Snow or You Made Me Forget My Dreams. I feel touched, but never hate. > keep the faith, kids. > > the duke > God, I'm gonna be a trainee teacher in Exeter from October! What do they put in the water down there? Again, that was a joke and in no way meant as an attack upon the bumpki..sorry, citizens of the South West of which I have a great affection for and will be coming to live with along with all relevant farmyard equipment and sheep. Thank you and good night. All the best, Jon -- ***************************************** The unofficial Leyton Orient Mailing List For info on joining mail me at jwg.wren at dial.pipex.com or Chris Uwins at web-orient at clara.net ***************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From rclander at xxx.net Thu Mar 26 05:36:58 1998 From: rclander at xxx.net (Richard Lander) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:36:58 +0800 Subject: Sinister: No B&S, Are You Scared to Be Happy in Anorak City Message-ID: <01bd5879$31e329e0$LocalHost@rclander.netfront.net> -----Original Message----- From: Essexdog5 To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: 26 March, 1998 8:41 Subject: Re: Sinister: the 'duke' speaks >In a message dated 3/25/98 10:24:56PM, you write: > ><< You've still got your copies of Are You Scared To Get Happy haven't > you.. > >> > >Is this a rhetorical question? AYSTGH, along with Troutfishing In Leytonstone >(on a lesser scale) used to make me leap about the room when I was about 17. >And the Anorak City flexi that came with the BESTest issue of that finest of >fanzines still runs through my mind on a regular basis. This was a fanzine >that said (excuse the paraphrasing, but it's from a rather addled memory) "We >were on a bus a few weeks ago and we saw a Hurrah! poster. Both Clare and I >agreed that they'd used the WRONG shade of blue..." - and it smelt so good as >well. > >I agree totally with the ideals of passion, idealism, SCREAMing, love/hate, >etc that the venerable Duke espouses.... are all the young soul rebels are >tucked up in their beds? (my own passion died circa summer '95, since you >asked, or not, as the case may be). Hey, maybe that's why I'm a journalisty! >Whatever. Spook! Somewhere in my parents house in the UK is a stack of fanzines which, when I left the UK I couldn't bring myself to throw away. Yes I still have the Anorak City flexi given away free with the first Sarah Records fanzine (Sarah 3 and 4). I can even remember where I bought it. At the Boardwalk Club in Manchester when we had gone to see The Groove Farm in early 1988. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jon.g at xxx.com Thu Mar 26 08:31:04 1998 From: jon.g at xxx.com (jon g.) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 08:31:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 3...6...9 seconds of light Message-ID: <01bd5891$840404c0$913163c3@dell> -----Original Message----- From: Katrina Shepherd To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: 25 March 1998 23:28 Subject: Sinister: 3...6...9 seconds of light >can anyone tell me what 'le pastie de la bourgeoisie' means? i've tried to >look it up but i still have absolutly no idea please help me! it's so annoying! > love katrina > Katrina Sheperd! Although you have given up French, you should be studiously studying your dictionary and then using your intelligence to sort it out, instead of having a dirty weekend wih Nick (but when it's over, you are looking at the working week through the eyes of a gigolo). I have to tell you all that this girl is bone idle. Katie, dear, it literally means the 'Pastie' (an alcoholic beverage popular in France) of the upper-middle-class, but it really means just like, well, you know, the upper class scum stuff type thing. Ask st�phane - he's french. And write me a proper email, instead of your pathetic 3 line jobs please. Oh, and call yourself loopy or katie - katrina is already here and is rather important. early jon g. (feeling euphoric that katie is still alive) jon.g at btinternet.com - http://www.btinternet.com/~jon.g/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From John.Jackson at xxx.com Thu Mar 26 09:43:29 1998 From: John.Jackson at xxx.com (Jackson,John) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:43:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: just a quick question Message-ID: ALright which one of you buggers phoned me at 3am ? You're in trouble now mister/missus JJ no kisses ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk Thu Mar 26 09:26:17 1998 From: Huw.Jenkins at xxx.uk (Huw Jenkins) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:26:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Catatonia and B&S. Message-ID: <61D51AF2F749D11196EA00805F387D4401F8AF@RMF1> susannah stated bluntly, blunter than a blunt spoon: > Eight puerile reasons why B&S are better than Catatonia: > None of them are Welsh. > > susannah. OOOOOOOHHHHH! Blimey! But entirely correct. No offence! Is Northy Welsh? Why does he keep quoting that line from the Catatonia song? JJ xx >But entirely correct. No offence! Thats O.K you fuckung arse. Susannah & JJ, you may not like Catatonia's music or Northy's comments about B&S, but don't start getting personal on this matter and causing more diharmony among this list. Huw -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2115 bytes Desc: not available URL: From John.Johnston at xxx.uk Thu Mar 26 09:31:57 1998 From: John.Johnston at xxx.uk (Johnston, John CT) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 09:31:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: college, gigs, and Willie Rushton Message-ID: <199803260932.JAA05794@hgty.capgemini.co.uk> Adam Robinson wrote about seeing "Guys and Dolls" at the National Theatre and I'd like to second that emotion. I went with my mum and dad; and dad, who is 79 said it was the greatest thing he'd ever seen. There was so much joy and ecstasy in being alive in that show that it couldn't but move you. I know mankind is capable of many horrors and all that stuff but it's times like that remind you what we can also be; our capacity for beauty and laughter and just how great life can be. Shows like that also turn me green with envy because I want to be a part of it. Although I love music and seeing bands I've never really wanted to be in a band. But I have always fancied being an actor/comedian/all-round-entertainer (My friend always advised me to try and promote myself as "the new Willie Rushton" as there was clearly a dearth of New Willie Rushtons on the comedy circuit - now of course Willie is dead and there's no one there to fill his place - oooh I'm kicking myself!). I've been to concerts that I've really enjoyed and were memorable perhaps because they were an event or there was a big name. But I suppose what unites the really great gigs and shows I've seen is the fact that the band/performers weren't trying to be cool they are just trying to be fun or be themselves. And by so doing in my eyes they become wildly cool. Shakespeare said "There's nothing so becomes a man as modest stillness and humility." and I've always subscribed to that point of view. That's one of the things I love about B&S and it's what made perhaps the greatest gig I've ever seen so special. This was the Bhundu Boys at the Potterow in Edinburgh 1989. I'd never seen them before or really heard their music but I knew the name. From the very first strum of the guitar the entire room was dancing, bouncing up and down all night as the sweat started to rain down off the ceiling. The band themselves were so charming - so bloody polite in their thanks for our appreciation it was incredible. Their keyboard player had gone back to Zimbabwe the day before as his wife had died and they dedicated the performace to him with genuine condolence. Thank you for your time john xxxx >---------- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From jeepster.uk at xxx.net Thu Mar 26 12:34:26 1998 From: jeepster.uk at xxx.net (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 12:34:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Maybe Northy was right ... Message-ID: <351A4B52.FEEB16F2@virgin.net> Right you lot. I'd really like to have something nice to say, but unfortunately i don't. Paul has done the most fantastic job possible with this list and i think it's an insult to him as to how we are all using it at present. Of course people are going to have differing opinions and of course people are going to want to air said opinions, but we should all do as Paul suggests and "pause for 10 seconds and think of cliff before hitting that send button". I can't say that i am without blame too, but after flaming someone on the list, i received a reply from this person and their original remark ... well, i won't bore you with the details, but needless to say, i felt pretty shit for having a go IN PUBLIC in the first place. I'm bored with the list at the moment. It upsets me as it used to be a source of happiness in my days. Maybe i'll just stick to posting official stuff on the list from now on ... I know this doesn't apply to everyone, but i do hope that those who are abusing this "privilege" get the message. Can we all take a leaf out of Susannah's book ... revenge is sweet, but does not have to be nasty and horrible. Don't get me wrong, i love the current non-b&s topics (fave gigs especially, even though i'm too embarrassed to admit mine), but the flaming and fights just have to stop. I can't be bothered to organise a picnic or tell everone about b&s news if all i'm going to get is grief and a zillion questions demanding info. I 'spose i kind of feel that "the providers" are being used. I don't demand that we (paul, david & myself) be treated with respect, but maybe we should all just be thankful that the band exist and make such beautiful and inspiring music that we use as the soundtrack to our lives. (notable honours must also go to the extra special keepers of the faith andy dean, the duke and wicked susie). oh fuck, am i making any sense? i can't make anybody do anything and i don't mean for any of this to sound like a threat, but things have got to change if you want the list to continue in the way that it has been in the past. that's me finished then :) ohmigod they killed kenny! cheers, Katrina. -- ******************************************************************** jeepster recordings ltd. - jeepster.uk at virgin.net 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn ph - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- . This message was brought to you by the Sinister mailing list. . To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". . For subscribing, unsubscribing and other list information please see . http://www.majordomo.net/sinister . For questions about how the list works mail owner-sinister at majordomo.net . Listen, this is pish, I think I'll leave ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From cleonard at xxx.COM Thu Mar 26 13:30:17 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1998 13:30:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The City Imp Message-ID: This is indeed a dark time for the pop rebellion. In a vain effort to unite the list in love, I have taken it upon myself to write a short play. Unlike the new Star Wars Trilogy, my play is the uplifting tale of a boys return to grace! How happy is that! All the characters here are fictional from my brain. If they remind you of anyone, or if the names sound familiar then that is purely coincidental. You see, I made it up. I love everyone in the world apart from bad people, wankers and the evil Jesus clone. THE CITY IMP =========== SCENE 1