From tton at xxx.edu Sun Nov 1 00:11:08 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 19:11:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Now the trouble is over, Message-ID: Everybody got paid, everbody is happy, they are glad that they came ... DC show ink polaroid: here i am, dashing about in front of blackcat, it's still very early, only 7 pm and doors don't open until 930 pm. i see sarah from the band walking outside, she heads off to domino's pizza and i whispered to antonio that that was sarah and their bus is sitting outside the venue. we go inside and hang out at the back bar for another few hours, inhaling fries and looking at all the beauties around us, someone puts on B&S on the jukebox and i'm singing along. we line up right near the door, the staff herds us about and finally lets us in. i dash up front and we listen to guv'ner ... they sure have a fetishm about their furniture, lights and red velvet chairs. then they set up the stage for belle and sebastian, they come out and play for us exactly 1 hour of bliss, crowded as we are, i'm still so happy and gleaming. they even played i know where the summer goes and wrong love. the concert was lovely, a bit short isobel did look better and was happily singing *is it wicked not to care* .. however, the band seemed a bit shy and were so cute on stage. when stuart was singing, "i always cry at endings" he brushed his hand on his cheek to wipe away his tears. how sweet. it was really lovely,but kind of late -- B&S didnt get on stage until midnight. happy but crying at endings, wee chi chi xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From catherine at xxx.edu Sun Nov 1 03:21:36 1998 From: catherine at xxx.edu (Catherine Andrews) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:21:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: belle and sebastian experience Message-ID: <363BD3C0.957CA084@virginia.edu> sorry for the length whoever told me that b&s are supposed to be weak live--you are SO wrong. oh so wrong. their concert was a completely different experience than any radiohead concert i've ever been to, but almost as good in a different way. but my evening started off so incredibly bad that i'm surprised the whole night wasn't ruined. hank and ameet and i left at about 6 and stopped off at burger king for dinner, high class, i know. i always seem to be eating off of trays. anyways that meal was evil. later i started getting a wicked stomach ache which afflicted me for the whole night. so then we left for our 2 hour car ride up to the black cat club in washington, d.c. i'm not a fan of car rides, and also i rode in the back with music blasting in my ears, effectively being clueless about what they were talking about up front. i hate that. so we got there about 9:30, when doors were supposed to open. i saw madflowr with her familiar jacket and i met martin and laini, they both were nice :) anyways they had to run off to find someone so hank and ameet and i got in line. it was freezing and i was so smart, wearing only a shortsleeved t-shirt (btw i am blond and was wearing a green t-shirt and dark flare jeans if you happened to glimpse me). so the line started moving, yeah, good. then it stopped all of a sudden and we were out there in the cold until after 10 pm. we got in finally, after i was hit on by the big black guy at the door ("that's what i'm talkin about..then god made wimmin! umph.") nice. ew. so we went in and had our eardrums blasted by stereolab playing from the horribly placed speakers...they need to move those speakers. they just block the stage too much if you're standing on the side, which is where we ended up. we went to look at the merchandise. i liked the black tshirt but after the show that was sold out so i got the white boy with the arab strap one. anyways the opening piece of crap..i mean, the opening band, guv'ner came on. i'm sorry if there are any guv'ner fans around, but we found them to be absolutely atrocious. what the hell was that keyboard horn thing? every time he played that and it pierced into the deepest depths of my head, i shuddered. i went to sit down while they played. my stomach had started making me want to double over, which probably affected my judgement. finally they finished. they said something like "this our second to last show ever" which i sincerely hope implies that they are breaking up as a band and putting themselves and many others out of misery. sorry for being so harsh, but yeah. so that and the state of my stomach put me in a bad mood. then we had to wait forever for b&s to come out!! they didn't come out until 11:30 or 12. i started worrying that maybe isobel was sick again. but. eventually. they came out. ohhhh my gosh! b&s just make me want to squeal with a maternal type joy, or something. they are undeniably, incredibly cute. isobel came out wearing this tiger ears tie-under-the-chin hat. stuart is the most adorable person alive. he was wearing a white tshirt and red plaid silkish pajama type pants. he sings with an effortless grace and a childish expression of content on his cherubic face. if i had stood next to any of the band, i would have felt like a big ugly ogre. i could probably pick them up and throw them pretty far. they are quaint and quirky and funny and all that is wonderful. i love them more than ever now. just the thought of them makes me smile with unrestrained happiness. hank said at one point, "can we take them home and play with them?" have i gushed enough? i guess so. anyways the played a lot of stuff from IYFS, dog on wheels, i know where the summer goes, some TBWTAS stuff, the loneliness of the long distance runner and at least a few others. it lasted about an hour. the highlight of the show for me was definitely stars of track and field. one of the best parts of teh show was looking around at members of the audience. everyone was just so happy! this band obviously has something special about it, and those who were there were lucky enough to realize just how special. only qualm i had was that they didn't play an encore when the crowd so blatantly wanted one. oh well, you can't have everything. then we went home and i've been content and smiling ever since. happy halloween, everyone! catherine ---------------------- catherine at virginia.edu 213 Webb Dorm Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things that escape those who dream only by night. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GLBurch at xxx.com Sun Nov 1 03:39:13 1998 From: GLBurch at xxx.com (GLBurch at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 22:39:13 EST Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe Message-ID: unsubscribe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Sun Nov 1 04:46:01 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 23:46:01 EST Subject: Sinister: deecee Message-ID: Have just gotten in from B&S Adventure #2 -- buses and taxis and metros and trains and cars later, I'm still happy... ...but tired. I'm not going to go on about it now except to say that it reawakened that really strong love one gets for this band. And this, to the best of my knowlege, is what was played: 1. Dog on Wheels 2. Don't Look Back... 3. I Know Where the Summer Goes 4. a silly little christmassy thing that made me think of Chris Leonard's little story about Stuart, Steven Pastel and the Christmas pies for some reason -- Isobel and Sarah's voices manipulated.... 5. Century of Elvis 6. Mayfly 7. Ease Your Feet... 8. Wrong Love 9. Stars of Track and Field 10. Seeing Other People 11. Is It Wicked...? 12. Lonliness of the Long Distance Runner 13. Dirty Dream 14. Sleep the Clock Around A few observations: the Black Cat is disorganized; Guvnor really really are awful by any standards; people who want to spend the evening talking loudly to their friends should go someplace that doesn't have live music. 'Night. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Sun Nov 1 05:34:04 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 00:34:04 EST Subject: Sinister: Felicity and Long (middle) Distance Runners Message-ID: <19981031.235004.4591.1.carrick44@juno.com> It's now past midnight here on the East Coast, and it's now Nov. 1st. The day of the first Belle and Sebastian show. A warning to those traveling in by car to see the show. Sunday is the day for the New York City Marathon. There might be a bit of a traffic problem. Make sure to leave in plenty of time for the meet-up/show. So I guess marathons are for "long distance" runners, as opposed to "middle distance" runners. Either way, I hope the event spurs on the band to play "loneliness of a ...." Personally I hope the set list is completely different from the Boston one. That's me being selfish. And does anyone else's ticket for the NYC shows say "Felicity" on the back. I can only assume that's in reference to our other favorite band, Orange Juice. (yes, I know the real reason why it's there, thank you. But I'd rather think it's for Orange Juice.) Yes, that's it. Carrick ______________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Sun Nov 1 05:44:59 1998 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1998 21:44:59 PST Subject: Sinister: Mercury Rev and One Dove Message-ID: <19981101054500.27463.qmail@hotmail.com> Has any of the gorgeous people otherwise known as Sinisterines heard the new Mercury Rev album??? (Deserters' Songs). I've heard magnificient things about it but wanna find out 'real' as opposed to music journalist's opinions:) Finally does ANYONE at all out there love One Dove as much as I do? Has anyone even heard them? They're a band who came about in 1991 and released an absolutely breathtaking and gorgeous album of melancholy ambient techno with touches of Nick Drake and Velvet Underground, in 1993. They broke up before they released their second album (which they had FINISHED! recording) And now I'm finding it ever so hard to get hold of their stuff. Apparently their lead singer Dot Allison has gone solo now but Select mag said she would release something in March and she still hasn'tL I know this isn't B&S related and please Honey don't boot me out of the list after this, but sympathise with my plight (that living in Australia makes it extremely HARD TO GET HOLD OF GREAT STUFF, b&s included) and if anyone out there know of this great band please contact me privately at my 'normal' uni email account: daftpunk at tartarus.uwa.edu.au and again, do tell me if that Mercury Rev album is any good. seeya lovelies Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From catherine at xxx.edu Sun Nov 1 05:58:07 1998 From: catherine at xxx.edu (Catherine Andrews) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 00:58:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: d.c. set list Message-ID: <363BF86F.683BE52@virginia.edu> i know this might have already been posted but could someone send me the complete set list for the washington, d.c. show? thanks much. catherine ---------------------- catherine at virginia.edu 213 Webb Dorm Those who dream by day are cognizant of many things that escape those who dream only by night. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Sun Nov 1 06:16:59 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 01:16:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: athens Message-ID: <363BFCDB.2D71@earthlink.net> since it's halloween and i had to work and now i'm home and bored and partyless cause i didn't have time to get to any......i'm gonna tell you about the athens show. i got into town and walked downtown with my friend bob so he could get some smokes. then we walked down to wuxtry records cause i was looking for the new jonathan richman (which i didn't find), i did however find a nice bootleg of the dylan/cash sessions. and we met some members of the band in a store. bob got some autographs, i just talked to mick. funny thing...they wouldn't all sign the same piece of paper bob had. they would only put one name on each thing. so then we went to this bar, the engine room, and got shitfaced on guinness. then bob's girlfriend wouldn't stop talking about shit i didn't care about, so i walked out of the bar and went and stood in what was becoming a line. i saw some other friends and went and talked with them until one of them got on my nerves cause she's a fucking stoner hippie who talks in that annoying stoner voice, so then bob's girlfriend comes and bothers me some more, and then the doors open. so while the opening band is on, masters of the hemisphere, she sees bob kissing another girl, and i think "oh fuck......not tonight" so she starts crying and i'm standing there not about to let her ruin my belle and sebastian moment, so i say a few comforting words and turn around and let my friend robbie handle the rest of it. so he kidney punches me for doing that to him. then she walks off and goes and says something to bob and the girl he was smooching, and bob hauls ass. he left the show. so there's all this high school drama going on around me with my friends, and i decide to not give a fuck, cause, hey! i'm here to see belle and sebastian, not play babysitter to a couple of drunk ex-lovers. then belle and sebastian come one around midnight and you can read reid's letter about all that. i will say that they looked nothing like the pictures or what i expected. except isobel....grrroowlll. they played about 45 minutes and walked off, and the stage lights didn't come on, so robbie asks me if they do encores, and i said "i don't think so. i hope not" and after five minutes of the stage lights still not on and no sign of the roadies i turn to him and say "maybe they do". as soon as i got the words out of my mouth, the roadies came out and started breaking down the equipment. we left and went to his bar i can't remember the name of and got re-shitfaced. at about 2:30 a.m., we went to kroger and bought some 3 for a dollar burritos and a can of pringles, cause none of us had eaten. we walked back to bob's apartment, ate the burritos, watched the southpark episode where they show that cartoon of fat abbot, and he goes "hey hey hey bitch. glock glock. ho" and all that kind of stuff and i fall asleep on the floor and got woke up the next morning by another friend that lives above bob. he was in his bedroom playing with his turntables, which he recently bought. so i walked upstairs to his room, told him to fuck off, and when i got back down, everyone else was awake and showering, so i did the same, and then we drove home. and when i got home i did the laundry and listened to my new bootleg. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Sun Nov 1 15:40:26 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 07:40:26 PST Subject: Sinister: paint the white house plaid Message-ID: <19981101154026.17277.qmail@hotmail.com> God I can't believe I went to a show this weekend. I brought my books to the gig for fuck's sake. I thought Belle and Sebastian were good.... you know, there just aren't many bands that do quiet well. Even in concert, every song sounded like leaves falling on dusty pages. Except for those parts in "Stars of Track and Field" that sound like horse races. Oh, and the Little Richard piano flourishes, yes, I liked them but they were a bit much. For long stretches no one even lit a damn cigarette they were so rapt. I did in fact wear a dashiki, which certainly, somehow, makes conversation with indie-rockers easier but is infinitely dangerous, I found out, in the U-Street-Cardozo area. I can't tell you how many poison looks I got that just screamed "cultural perpetrator". I met list people. Weirdness. No wonder I e-mail. Many people were disappointed by the gig. Some looked like they wanted to cry. I didn't, I don't think, understand what was possibly disappointing, except that my grandfather did not come back to life as I'd hoped but whatever. O.K. here's the real weirdness, SMurdoch looks just like my friend Patrick, who is your archetypical soundman: loud, hypermasculine, glandular, pierced genitals, fast eater, psychotic driver. Thanksgiving dinner at Patrick's house, all eight courses, took about fifteen minutes. Larger than love, yes. So seeing Patrick up on stage I of course didn't expect him to sing like such a wuss. Duh. Isobel was very cute, I'll admit, as the Tee-eye-double-guh-er. Playing a cello. With these awful brownish-wet runs down her pants, I think they miked her squooshing. At future gigs you all must pelt her with TP. I felt very bad that there was a front of really tall honkers right in the middle so all the shortish pop fans just got to see a lot of shoulderblade during the show, I let them all ahead of me in vain hopes that they'd see around them. The show ended and I got lost. By the way, "Corpora Arenacea" means "brain sand". As you get older your brain really does turn to sand. I know. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Nov 1 16:02:23 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:02:23 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Give me My Medal! Message-ID: <01be05b1$03cd77a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> I have now finished Duke's book. I urge you all to go and order it from your local library. Going by the theory that any kind of reaction is better than no reaction at all, I'm sure it'll be a storming success. I enjoyed it, but was disappointed because there are no rude bits and only one really funny bit, when Duke rages and rages against the Blue Aeroplanes. I read it in a Richard Burton voice. I look forward to Duke's next book. That Cuban fellow's still being dirty. Yes, that France Gall album is on my anti-shopping list, mainly due to its ludicrous price tag. I can't remember whether it's that album or the other one, but she looks bloody awful on the cover. Like a deflated Diana Dors. Kara wrote: Isobel was wearing a very cute pair of Tiger Ears. She looks like she's feeling better. Is this some kind of Chinese medicine thing? I've never ever heard One Dove, but I have met the girl who sings. She looked at me like I was a particularly toxic dog turd mixed up with rotten cockroach innards. I refuse to knowingly listen to anything she's involved with. I also read an interview with the guys from the band who took a journalist on a tour of Glasgow nightlife on a Tuesday during the infamous curfew period. It was hilariously uneventful. Unlike the B&S US tour. Thanks to everyone for sharing their views and memories with us. If you're going to the New York show on Monday, keep an eye open for my mate Txiki. He's going to New York on holiday, so I bored him by talking about the upcoming Supper Club Free Form Freak Out, and he said he might try to go. He has no idea who Belle and Sebastian are, so he'll probably be quite easy to spot. He's very sociable and will be charmingly jetlagged. I realise this is totally ridiculous, but there you are. Right, we're off to the pictures. Full gibbering tomorrow. Speaking of which.......Chris, where are you, you funny little hedgehog? Bobby C +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mek0730 at xxx.edu Sun Nov 1 16:36:47 1998 From: mek0730 at xxx.edu (Maria Kokiasmenos) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 11:36:47 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Tickets for sunday show Message-ID: hello all-- i am supposed to be going to the sunday show, but my boyfriend is, unfortunately, too sick to go with me. i was wondering if anyone with 2 monday tickets would be willing to trade. alternately, i may be willing to sell his ticket if it turns out a friend will take mine. but i won't know that for a few hours (after 3 pm). please e-mail ASAP. thanks, maria +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ant.And.Dec at xxx.net Sun Nov 1 18:46:27 1998 From: Ant.And.Dec at xxx.net (Ant.And.Dec at xxx.net) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 18:46:27 GMT Subject: Sinister: Who Are B&S? Message-ID: <199811011846.SAA28354@relay.clara.net> Just who or what are Belle & Sebastian? Are they a Romanian delicacy? Possibly a brand of Argentinian Beer? Please tell us because quite frankly we have no idea, because we can't even spell plasebo correctly on our show. Ant and quite possibly Dec. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mek0730 at xxx.edu Sun Nov 1 22:24:01 1998 From: mek0730 at xxx.edu (Maria Kokiasmenos) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 17:24:01 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Ticket for 12/1 show for sale Message-ID: Sorry about the previous (extremely unclear) message. I have a ticket for tonight (sunday's) show that I will sell for $22 (face value + Ticketmaster charge) to the first person who e-mails me. Sorry for the short notice! Maria +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helenalauren at xxx.com Sun Nov 1 21:53:21 1998 From: helenalauren at xxx.com (Helena Lauren) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 14:53:21 -0700 Subject: Sinister: mysterious picture Message-ID: about that picture page on the mailing list site- who's that darling boy in the picture titled "chrispoof" ??? Is he on this list?? very curiously, Helena, a new sinister girl *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Nov 1 23:18:49 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 15:18:49 PST Subject: Sinister: i cloud-nine when i want to Message-ID: <19981101231849.26146.qmail@hotmail.com> hello... oh my,i get so much sinister digest all clumped together,i can check it hardly ever with the internet problem,so i apologize if i'm replying sometimes to things that are from while back... >i'm a little excited as a certain west virginian is flying in tomorrow!!!! >not to mention b&s this weekend. one way or another, i'll have some smut >to talk about later. > >xox >megan and i want to hear more from megan,she's so lovely! i just saw your defend-genevieve post and it makes me happy..maybe if ..if i talk more smut will they like me more? anyways,i'm like the buck-toothed , split-ended kid and megan defends me and then we go play in the creek,it could be a b&s song... Peter Peter Miller..I wanted to see herring with Mr Sparkly Orange too,very badly..but the wicked witches keep me home to clean,i don't even have funds to take the bus down there,to do a proper escape..but i was watching Cornation Street and Toyah hitchhikes to London (London! Much bigger than Toronto yes?) and she's fine,she gets all these kindly truckers who are like 'I wish you well on your journey,love' I don't even have an excuse to be sympathised tho... "I want to play pranks on Mr.Sparkly Orange" these belle and sebastian couples make me sniff,they're so sweet,they treat each other right,which is so rare today i still think the belle and sebastian toronto show is going to happen..maybe in a few months from now? it is god's will!! i've noticed cancelled shows are kind of like when you fail a test...i keep dreaming of stuart singing sly& the family stone....speshiallly HOT FUN IN THE SUMMERTIME ahhh yes... high high high high...there genevieve p.s elisa,i sent you a letter,did you get it? p.p.s are there anymore ottawa fans out there,(lovely Cathy...it could happen!) i know it's chilly now...but gold courses..ski lodges and riding stables surround me...it could be such a lovely picnic (you can always try can't you?) and in the summer...there's always Mont Cascades! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From suzsch at xxx.net Mon Nov 2 03:00:14 1998 From: suzsch at xxx.net (Suzanne Schroeder) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:00:14 -0600 Subject: Sinister: The embittered cow rides again Message-ID: <199811020254.UAA01861@smtp1.mailsrvcs.net> How many weeks has it been? It's been over a week since I returned from Boston. I came home and saw the pile of digests in my in box and did what any sane person would do: I deleted them. But, of course, not without seeing that Isobel had fallen ill and the backlash resulting. Then, I went into a coma again, and came out of it by enjoying life a bit, then getting bored all over again. It depends on my mood, and as I sit here reflecting on my somewhat disappointing halloween (all I got was blisters on my feet from the shoes and a headache from the wig) balanced with the fun of playing an acoustic set decked out as Sally Jesse Raphael, I thought maybe I could actually say a few nice words about something. Boston was a very strange experience from the minute I hit the city limits. For the days before, I was being spoiled by tiny towns in the New England countryside. People had all day to get somewhere because it was just down the road. Your life isn't eaten up sitting in a car. That's why I was shocked to find that the Bostonians drive like bats out of hell. The roads were so poorly planned probably stretching back to the days when everyone had a horse and had plenty of time to decide if they were in the right lane or not, that I freaked and got turned around. I looped around and found the University, but ah, the parking....... To cut it short, I finally did make it to the show. I stood in line and became aware I was surrounded by true diehards. Just the snippets of conversations told me right away that people around there followed them as well as I did. I thought this should make for a very lively show. I walked in and was left with the seats in the back or balcony. I almost went for the balcony remembering the last show I had gone to with such seating and how I kicked myself for letting Ticketmaster pick out the "best" seat, but they wouldn't let me cut across and I didn't feel like stepping over people. I took the chance to turn lemons into lemonade since my real camera had died that morning and I had to make due with a tiny disposable camera, so I thought I could sneak it in. I didn't know if they would search, but I look like an innocent.....just ask the cop who pulled me over outside Logan airport for running the toll booths, but I digress..... Containe took the stage. That's about all you can say. I don't remember much of what they did, and I think it ended up boring the audience. The audience was paying attention at the beginning, but other conversations slowly started to filter in. I can't even remember what the band sounded like at this point. Technically, yes, it worked, I think, but still..... We were waiting for the real band. With the shortest turn around in history, Belle and Sebastian took the stage to a surprisingly mute audience. The only people who really stood were the ones who couldn't get a good look from where they were standing. This reaction was totally peculiar considering just a few minutes before, people were proudly showing off their new t-shirts to their friends. Is that normal for New England audiences? I can't tell, since I know it's a different planet up there, but in Austin, if you had a group of diehards together like that, they probably would have been body surfing before they had a chance to play a single chord. As for me, well, I didn't mind as much as I should have. I was way too tired (since I have a habit of overexhausting myself when I travel to the point where I nearly collapse) and I knew I was enjoying their music, so it was a choice of me standing there and tapping my toes, or just kicking back. The whole set sounded almost like an album. It was that pristine sounding that nothing was added or deleted to the mix. There were no unexplained glam riffs, etc. Happily, they pulled "Judy and the Dream of Horses" out of the moth balls even though Stuart made a couple of failed attempts at the chords, which I laughed when someone started to shout them out to him. If I was near the stage, I probably would have too. Much of the humor that night wasn't really from jokes, but just from the band's personality. For example, I couldn't figure out where the hell Stuart disappeared to halfway through the set. You heard a voice, and nothing else. As I say this, I realize it's one of those things you had to be there for, but when the other members had to ask him a question and his head suddenly popped up from behind the keyboards, it was the idiosyncraticy of the whole thing to leave the stage completely void of the lead singer when they could have easily turned the keyboard sideways so people could get a look that I found amusing. They nearly played all of my favorites, and when halfway through "The boy done wrong again" I heard a low singing all throughout the hall, it truly provided a warm moment. But the atmosphere of the band was like that of one in a soundcheck. Maybe because they didn't have the luxury of growing up in bars and clubs where they were 4th on the bill and fighting for people's attention from an indifferent audience they didn't have the chance to develop a stage persona. Suddenly, they are being asked to perform to halls with 700 people in them. Most acts with some staying power know how to get the audience involved, but this group is different. They made a complete cult around people who heard their albums first and saw them live second. Not once did they really feel the need to fight for fan loyalty or see the faces of the people buying their albums, so to them, I suppose the live show is nothing more than an unneeded aftereffect. True, it's hard to rock out on violin, but there's got to be some energy somewhere that can be tapped. Sadly, there was no encore, and by the way they questioned the audience to whether they were enjoying themselves, you can't help but think that they saw the show as a failure. It's hard to get a coffee house crowd out of their chairs. It's just not cool. I don't know what anyone else was thinking, but the T-shirts definitely sold out. s.s. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 03:40:22 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 19:40:22 PST Subject: Sinister: a very happy bunny Message-ID: <19981102034022.25698.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear Sinisteriners: I wanted to tell you, i was a very happy bunny for halloween. Literally, a five foot seven pink fuzzy bunny. Inspired partly from list bunnyhood, i really got in tune with my true bunny nature. i feel as if I have fulfilled an important part of me. I saw my friend's band grasshopper in sanjose, which is an evil place . Really bad vibes. Grasshopper was simply beautiful but ... before hand i saw this awful fight, two girls and a boy, throwing each other to the ground, running at each other like maniacs, i felt so bad for it. The atmosphere was like an freakish carnival sideshow. i decided that halloween was really a strange time, a day of the dead, everyone was releasing such frightening parts of themselves. i released bunniness, and danced very cheerfully, but still felt disheartened somehow. i still do. But on the way home, i sang along to rollercoaster ride, to help clear the air, and ward off evil spirits. Cynthia ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 03:36:58 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 22:36:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Seb-as-ti-an, at the Black Cat club Message-ID: <363D28DA.C258AE49@bigfoot.com> ...and 800 people scream simultaneously. "Is he trying to break his own record for Longest Post Ever?!" Here's an ink polaroid: a early morning knock on the door of a unassuming country house outside of Chapel Hill. A man in his late twenties opens the door and sees hundreds of international Belle and Sebastian fans, led by Honey "Paul" Mitchell, who is brandishing a crowbar. "Reid, we're here for your computer." This time around, I don't have any stories of me humiliating myself in front of a B&S member. Not even Richard. But, as this tour has gone on, I'm always glad when people give long descriptions of the shows, so I'm just doing the same. I hope no one's too annoyed...but Friday was (unfortunately) my last show, so this will be it for me for a while. First off, it's really strange that there were TWO other stories of people getting stomach aches during the show, because I was about to swear I had appendicitis I was in so much pain. But then about half an hour after the show was over, I felt fine. Something in the club maybe? Or maybe it was that Salmonella Salad (aka Chicken Ceasar salad) I had beforehand. Or maybe it's an epidemic and we'll all be dead in 48 hours. Whatever. If Isobel really was afraid that Americans wouldn't like B&S, she couldn't possibly think that anymore after seeing the line outside the Black Cat before the show. The doors were VERY late to open, and it seemed as though at one point, every person who had a ticket to the show was in line. And an impressive line it was, stretching well down the street. My friends and I entertained each other in line by imagining B&S introducing their songs like a metal band: "There's somthin' I gotta know, Washington, and I need to know now...IS IT...WICKED...NOT...TO...CAAARRRE?!!!! " I also got to pass time in line by meeting the very sweet and very lovely Jessica #4, who is appropriately appreciative of the single version of Lazy Line Painter Jane. Jessica, I'm sorry I just cut off our conversation. I was beginning to get anxious, and I'm sorry I was so rude. Unfortunately, we were let into the club early enough to hear Guv'ner. In Athens, the opening band was Masters of the Hemisphere who sounded a lot like They Might Be Giants, and were a great choice for an opening band. Even if you didn't *like* them, they were fun to listen to. Guv'ner, on the other hand, was possibly the most inappropriate opening choice this side of Rammstein. They were way too loud, and even beyond that, they were just boring indie guitar rock. The only thing that kept it from being completely unbearable was my friend Susan's incredible expressions of pain. She looked like the Scream painting after he'd got done screaming and just gone back to being depressed and in pain. I've never actually been to a gig when the band's loudest applause came when they announced they only had one more song. And, poor things, several people even cheered really loudly when they said this was their second-to-last show. So, the show. I know some people have put in the set lists, but I thought I'd give it here for those picky people like me who like seeing it written out as a list. Again, I was an idiot and forgot to bring in a pen so I could write down the list, but I know the first 7 are right, and the last two, and I got all the songs (I think) that they played, but the middle songs are in the wrong order. Dog On Wheels Like Dylan In the Movies I Know Where the Summer Goes It's Hard to be a Jew at Christmas A Century of Elvis Mayfly Ease Your Feet In the Sea Seeing Other People Get Me Away From Here, I'm Dying New Song Stars of Track and Field Wrong Girl Is it Wicked Not to Care Dirty Dream #2 Sleep the Clock Around Notice the South Park tribute. I don't know if it was Stuart D. or Chris who did it, but they had some effect that made their voice sound cartoony, so I guess they wanted to take advantage of it. To put it mildly, it was VERY entertaining to the band, Stuart M. especially. But we need to get to the most intriguing part of the night...the new song. I was trying to remember a few lines from it, but they're slipping my mind. Stevie was playing a phased-out guitar, Stuart sang, it was mid-tempo, kind of dark and very Smiths-y. Is this "Rhoda"? Or "Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner"? The only info we got from the band was that it had never been released. But I'd love to know what it is. The suprise at this show was how much they played off of Sinister. All of them were pretty faithful. Seeing Other People sounded good, but was mostly the same as the album version, Get Me Away was a little (a *little*) less powerful than the album version, but Stars was fantastic. If I had a live version of the song, I'd rewind the last twenty seconds over and over. It was essentially the same as the album, but I think that the difference was being able to watch Mick waiting for that last one-note trumpet part, and when he finally got to it, it was like he had been holding his breath just so he could put everything he had into it. Stunning. I was always half-and-half on the session version of Wrong Girl...it sounded a little too much like a campfire sing-along. But the version they did Friday was a huge improvement. The drums were heavier and the instrumentation was a lot more lush and thought out. Which I guess is understandable seeing as how the session version was learned by the band only hours before they recorded it. I also hadn't heard I Know Where the Summer Goes, and it was, as Katrina said, lovely. Similar to Century of Fakers, but a little more folky...it would sound cozy with the Dog On Wheels stuff. My friend Christian thought it was the highlight of the show. To me, the highlights were the beginning and the end. I've never been Dog On Wheels' biggest fan, but the addition of strings during the trumpet solo was heart-breakingly gorgeous. And I've always been Sleep the Clock Around's biggest fan, and it was better live than I could have imagined. It was the album version for the most part, but Chris added in the piano from the session version at the very end. I can't imagine a better way to end the show. The "adorable" levels were skyrocketing. I mean, first you've got Isobel's tiger hat. Then Stuart gets all kinds of excited because he was given a wireless microphone. "I've never had one of these before", and he takes it out of the stand, jumps up on the monitors and starts making strange noises, just because he could. Then he asks if the lights can be turned up a bit so he can see people in the audience. Someone yells out "Stars of Track and Field" and he said, "Who said that? How can you read the set list from back there?" By the way, maybe it was just the two shows I went to, but by the end of each, almost every song title had been yelled out. Christian and I were waiting for someone to be snobby enough to yell out "Hurley's Having Dreams" or "London Has Let Me Down Again." Anyway, the greatest image of the concert was when they played Wrong Girl and Stuart M. played bass ("Stuart's really coming along on bass", says Stevie) and was downright rocking, bobbing back and forth. They should let him play bass more often. They were definitely tight overall and sounded great and like they were in good moods, but the pauses between the songs were longer than they were in Athens. And it was a lot more difficult to see at the Black Cat. For us, the whole show was basically the Stuart M., Stevie and Mick show with the occasional cameo by Isobel. We only saw Sarah, Chris and Stuart D. when they were walking onto and off of the stage. There were huge speakers on either side of the stage that meant that if you were off to the side (like we were, because, as usual, the front and center was populated by guys over 6'2") you couldn't see a whole lot. I was almost a little sad when it was all over. I don't know if this was because I realized that with a little more foresight, I might have been able to see the New York shows. Maybe I was sad just because it was over. I don't know. As my main squeeze Emily and I rode back to Chapel Hill this morning, I told her about how I've been waking up really early for the last week because I start thinking about Belle and Sebastian and then can't get back to sleep, and about how I think about them all the time and about how completely overjoyed I felt when I heard about the new EP coming out. And Emily said, "You're in love with them." Then she made some smutty remarks about walking in on me rubbing the albums all over my body. That was a little unnecessary. Funny, but unnecessary. But I do feel like I'm in love. I have trouble sleeping, I lost my appetite before the shows and get all weak when I listen to them. It'd be pathetic if it didn't feel so good. I'm glad I can write all this to a bunch of people who understand. Normally I don't go in for this sort of drivel, but...this is different. Everybody say "Hell, yeah!", Reid ps. It's good to see Brad back on the list...our smut levels were dipping dangerously low. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 04:50:03 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 23:50:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: something for you to do with your spare time Message-ID: so i just thought i'd introduce everyone on the list to the wonderful art of making belle and sebastian-related latch-hook wall hangings/rugs and embroidered patches. so far i've made myself a (crappy) wee chriss patch, a very nice patch of the two dancing kids (in full color!) and am currently finishing up a smallish latch hook wall hanging of the green school bus design. it's loverly. i strongly suggest you guys use your spare time with these activities. they're wonderful. just ask teri. -kerry "red usually means caution. or beef if it's a bullion cube." -"toys" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jaygatsby at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 05:21:38 1998 From: jaygatsby at xxx.com (Sean McVeigh) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 00:21:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sadly I know Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981102002138.0080db60@mail.geocities.com> In response to the description below, i would like to say CHris was singing a song from SOuth Park "Im a jew on christmas" 4. a silly little christmassy thing that made me think of Chris Leonard's little story about Stuart, Steven Pastel and the Christmas pies for some reason -- Isobel and Sarah's voices manipulated.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 05:26:07 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:26:07 EST Subject: Sinister: New York Sunday show Message-ID: Re: the Noo Yoik Sunday show... what a glorious venue! Beautiful, and hardly mental in the slightest. Big hugs to Shirley! xxxxxx. So, the set list:- The State I Am In Belle & Sebastian Slow Graffiti Chickfactor She's Losing It Lazy Line Painter Jane Arab Strap Spaceboy Dream Lord Anthony Dirty Dream No2 Seeing Other People Turn Turn Turn The Boy Done Wrong Again Simple Things Some observations: We were seemingly the only people clapping along to Arab Strap (ya, boo, sucks ta you!), Stuart M made a joke about how Monday's set will be identical (hee hee - he also apears to be growing breasts, but that's another story), Isobel/Edie looked very bored (but beautiful - I so regret not having ripped one of the posters from the wall. Aaron, ye are a braver man than I), I laughed a tad too loudly at "Marks & Spencers" being substituted with "Sears and Roebucks" in The State I Am In, and Lord anthony is one of the most delightful things I've heard in a very long time. Charmed, I'm sure. Goodnight! Stephen. Caroline, if you're reading this.... xxxxxxxxxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 05:27:43 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:27:43 EST Subject: Sinister: New York Sunday show Message-ID: <6e042f61.363d42cf@aol.com> Re: the Noo Yoik Sunday show... what a glorious venue! Beautiful, and hardly mental in the slightest. Big hugs to Shirley! xxxxxx. So, the set list:- The State I Am In Belle & Sebastian Slow Graffiti Chickfactor She's Losing It Lazy Line Painter Jane Arab Strap Spaceboy Dream Lord Anthony Dirty Dream No2 Seeing Other People Turn Turn Turn The Boy Done Wrong Again Simple Things Some observations: We were seemingly the only people clapping along to Arab Strap (ya, boo, sucks ta you!), Stuart M made a joke about how Monday's set will be identical (hee hee - he also apears to be growing breasts, but that's another story), Isobel/Edie looked very bored (but beautiful - I so regret not having ripped one of the posters from the wall. Aaron, ye are a braver man than I), I laughed a tad too loudly at "Marks & Spencers" being substituted with "Sears and Roebucks" in The State I Am In, and Lord anthony is one of the most delightful things I've heard in a very long time. Charmed, I'm sure. Goodnight! Stephen. Caroline, if you're reading this.... xxxxxxxxxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 05:32:44 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 00:32:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: something for you to do with your spare time In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Kerry, don't forget the shrinky dinks. Yes, it's true, kerry made this rad patch and I made the same design as a shrinky dink. tonite - latch hook all the way. (but kerry's came out better - something about lack of ritalin on my part i'm sure...) tommmorow cross stich... don't we have work to do? -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "I may sit in a bar where the cocktails are but I really don't feel like talking I ride around and let the darkness fall 'cause I've got a sense of perfection and nothing else makes sense at all." On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, azriel wrote: > > > so i just thought i'd introduce everyone on the list to the wonderful art > of making belle and sebastian-related latch-hook wall hangings/rugs and > embroidered patches. > so far i've made myself a (crappy) wee chriss patch, a very nice patch of > the two dancing kids (in full color!) and am currently finishing up a > smallish latch hook wall hanging of the green school bus design. it's > loverly. i strongly suggest you guys use your spare time with these > activities. they're wonderful. > just ask teri. > > -kerry > "red usually means caution. or beef if it's a bullion cube." > -"toys" > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mappster at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 05:40:54 1998 From: mappster at xxx.edu (Robert David Mapp) Date: Sun, 1 Nov 1998 21:40:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: unsubscribe sinister-digest +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 06:45:57 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 01:45:57 EST Subject: Sinister: Dog On Wheels--availability Message-ID: <7ede79fe.363d5525@aol.com> Just wondering if Dog On Wheels has become tough to get as an import in the US. The guy at my local record store said he's been trying to get it in stock for ages, and I noticed CDNow has it on backorder... (sorry if it's been asked before, but searching the archives is a pain...I get terrible DL rates to the site) gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Riddley13 at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 06:50:44 1998 From: Riddley13 at xxx.com (Riddley13 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 01:50:44 EST Subject: Sinister: NYC Supper Club Nov 1st Message-ID: <30d7dab5.363d5644@aol.com> 1. State I am In 2. Belle and Sebastian 3. Slow Graffiti 4. Chickfactor 5. She's Losing It 6. Lazy Line Painter Jane 7. The Boy with the Arab Strap 8. Spaceboy Dream 9. Lord Anthony 10. Dirty Dream #2 11. Seeing Other People 12. Turn, Turn, Turn (Byrds) 13. The Boy Done Wrong Again 14. Simple Things Yes it was wonderful. Yes they played beautifully. Unfortunately yes Isobel still seems a bit under the weather. Yes they did not play any encores. Yes they were funny. (Chris Geddes sang back ups with Stuart M. for Turn turn turn{Stevie sang the lead}. When they were getting to the line about "a time to embrace" a big grin was already creeping onto Stuart's face even before he put his arm around Chris in their own little embrace...) Stuart polled the audience to see who was coming tomorrow night. After a bit of hand raising and applause, he sarcastically remarked that we had wasted our money because they would be playing the same set. To all the listees in the Philly and Toronto areas who missed out this time around There may be a very small solace in the near future. NOT a re scheduled show but something else I am trying to get together for you fans who did not get the chance to see them. More details tomorrow. has anyone seen Swannie? is she in Brighton still? Tell her hello for me. Riddley13 still lurking and looking for my stolen bike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegasbaby at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 07:17:29 1998 From: vegasbaby at xxx.com (Courtney Knopf) Date: Sun, 01 Nov 1998 23:17:29 PST Subject: Sinister: people going to the NYC show on monday Message-ID: <19981102071730.18137.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello sinister darlings, i have a wee favor to ask anyone who is going to the NYC show on monday. could one of you possibly find it in your hearts to pick me up a size small Study At Stow t-shirt? i know it's short notice but my plans to get one from a friend going to the DC show sort of fell through. I'll even pay for the shipping! ~Courtney The Sultraness of Swing "An evil petting zoo?" "Swing and the Single Girl," every tuesday night 12-4am PST on KSCR 104.7 FM. Hear us live in real audio at http://kscr.usc.edu. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Mon Nov 2 09:12:51 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 09:12:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: (Afternoon) Soaps In-Reply-To: Message-ID: oooh no !!!! (afternoon ) soaps is'nt half as good as the original soaps from philophobia. Because of all the extra frills, you miss the epiccy bits. So nah ! On Fri, 30 Oct 1998, Lennox Beattie wrote: > > Although it not entirely about B&S i just thought i'd rave about the > new Arab Strap single which i bought yesterday its a real return to > form. Its more like the 1st album than Philophobia which i've got to > admit wasn't really taken with. This is more lyrically dense and less > kind of trainspotting pastiche. The remind of all musical version of > any of Gordon Legge's writing although a little more weegie and > bitter > Lennox > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Mon Nov 2 10:38:11 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 10:38:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: gimmee gimmee gimmee fried chicken Message-ID: >Right, we're off to the pictures. Full gibbering tomorrow. >Speaking of which.......Chris, where are you, you funny >little hedgehog? hehehe the funny little hedgehog's a mental wee guy, int he? He keeps running up to Mike and singing a funny little song. I've been here all along but rather involved in my duties, forgive me for not gibbering on Friday. This is for the benefit of Admiral Miller, I don't think anyone else will read this. Now, Robin Williamson. For those who don't know I'm partial to the Incredible String Band, who were a fantastic group from Edinburgh. They went a bit shit in the early 70's when they started to rock, but I just ignore that. Robin Williamson and Mike Heron were the Incredible String Band and Robin has continued to release 6 albums a year for the last 20 years. And they're all ace. Mostly. Now on Thursday I went to see him, and christ he's good. He was fucking huge, sort of like a mystic Santa with a harp. It was an evening of stories and song, and he just made it up as he went along. Great. He told a big story about Finn McCool the most marvellous man who ever was. Finn McCool had a magic thumb which could transport him into the future if he chewed on it. hehehe. He sang old string band favourites "October Song" and "The First Girl I loved". Trivia - in the sixties Bob Dylan said out loud October Song was "quite good". But the best best bit was when in the middle of a song about getting the loan of a glass of beer Robin Started telling a story about places he had been. He was talking and then he said "Christ I love County Clare". Then he sang at the top of his voice in a high pitch "COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUNNNTTTTY CLAAAAAAAAARE", then proceeded with his story. I was laughing. I guess you had to be there. The only problem was I took my parents with me, thinking they would enjoy an evening of Robin. My mistake, they were bored silly, and fidgeted all the way through it. I should have given them a row or ten of the best. Uncooth scrubbers. The famous miss julia was much more appreciative, she's brilliant. Many thanks to Mr. Jake Kenny for the lenoir session tape. I like it a lot. Murdoch seems to be enjoying himself on it, getting folk to say hello to mumsy-wumsy and that. Jake you will be rewarded, soon ;) And finally, Helana was curious: >about that picture page on the mailing list site- who's that darling >boy in the picture titled "chrispoof" ??? Is he on this list?? Yeah, that was me when I was a poof. Now I'm not a poof and cut my hair and ate a lot of pies to prove it. Ho-hum. Chris McCool +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 11:23:14 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:23:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Trick or Treat Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C22@COR-EXG1> On Saturday night I went down the Fizgig n Firkin on the old Iron Bridge, and after a couple of pints plucked up the courage to ask the man with the white face and the red eyes if I could score "Some of the good stuff". He punched me square on the nose and said "BOO" and made me cry. It was at this point that I realised it was Halloween and I had made another of my terrible schoolboy errors. I decided to make the most of my mistake and join in the fun. so I went home with my tears and dressed up as Stuart Murdoch. On returning to the Firkin, I made my way to the bar for another pint of brainrot. The bar area was jam-packed with witches and ghosts and just plain weird cross-dressing sorts and I was amazed at how easily I got to the bar. At was at this point I realised all the boys had run a mile and the barman flatly refused to serve me because "I didn't look eighteen". I told him "I hadn't looked eighteen for twenty-seven years now" and that he "Could stick his pint up his fat arse". He told me to "Stop being such a clever c***" and punched me square on the nose. It was at this point I realised that this was the man I had earlier asked for class A drugs. I decided to cut my losses and went home to nurse my injuries. No sooner had I walked through the door than the doorbell rang and there were half-a-dozen mini-witches/ghosts/skelebones stood on the doorstep shouting trick or treat. Now being the kind natured soul I am I usually just give the kids some poisoned sweets or maggot-filled apples, but due to my ill-fortune that night I was not in the giving mood. I thought momentarily then asked "You can have the goodies if you can reel off ten four-letter naughty words in 90 seconds...You're moment of truth starts now". They couldn't have been more than six years old I tell you...24 rude words...and called me a "Poof" for good measure. I went upstairs and sang songs to Andrew Lloyd Webber in the bath and he tossed me off whilst eating a tobleronesque baked-Alaska. I don't have any morals so there probably isn't one attached to this story, besides which Honey doesn't like attachments being sent to the list...boom boom. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bellequasi at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 11:42:47 1998 From: Bellequasi at xxx.com (Bellequasi at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 06:42:47 EST Subject: Sinister: rescheduling? Message-ID: does anyone know what's happening cause i heard many stories about the possiblities of rescheduling and not rescheduling? did the person who spoke to matador hear anything else? thank you, kristie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jrs4 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 11:50:37 1998 From: jrs4 at xxx.uk (jrs4) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:50:37 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Canterbury tales Message-ID: Dear Sinisters I have a great problem, I have been at university in Canterbuy for three and a half weeks now and as of yet I have not met anyone who has listened to B&S. This sucks bigtime. The only thing that has kept me daydreaming has been this wonderful mailing list, the reports on the shows, the smut and the trials and tribulations of life in the world of B&S, thankyou. James +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbgustat at xxx.net Mon Nov 2 13:39:20 1998 From: mbgustat at xxx.net (Mike) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:39:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Wing'ed Pigs a Flyin' Message-ID: <01BE063C.49C05B20.mbgustat@idt.net> For what it's worth...which may be minimal, yet interesting none the less: I happened to wonder into "Newbury Comics" on Saturday (A U.S. music/popculture knickknack store). They keep a rack of the top 20 selling CDs. Arab Strap was #12! I suspect Hell should receive 5 inches of snow this week now, too? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From glundell at xxx.COM Mon Nov 2 13:55:47 1998 From: glundell at xxx.COM (Gina Lundell) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 08:55:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: little book question Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 1647 bytes Desc: not available URL: From rap101 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 15:16:19 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:16:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Canterbury tales In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, jrs4 wrote: > > Dear Sinisters > I have a great problem, I have been at university in > Canterbuy for three and a half weeks now and as of yet I > have not met anyone who has listened to B&S. This sucks > bigtime. The only thing that has kept me daydreaming has > been this wonderful mailing list, the reports on the shows, > the smut and the trials and tribulations of life in the > world of B&S, thankyou. > James simple solution: play your choice of album very loud with the door open and then your whole corridor will have listened to b&s. and the ones who don't tell you to shut the fuck up may be fans. you never know. other business. i have no news of b&s shows and related wonderment to impart, ahving spent the weekend here in york in the fucking rain and wind working far too hard to be healthy. i didn't even have a b&s conversation all weekend. but i did go to a party on saturday and had a laugh at some of the people who had bothered to dress up. i had to respect the girl who wore a huge cardboard pumpkin creation and couldn't get through the door. hee hee. i was glad i'd opted for the understated elegant, slightly gothic black option. well, that was the image i was going for. i probably just looked like a girl in black jeans and a black t shirt. i'm going home to sussex on thursday as the north is getting to me. any of you brighton listees - i'll be at lewes bonfire night. the one walking around with her parents because she hasn't got any friends there any more. wish me luck, mopey archel x> > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seilsd at xxx.net Mon Nov 2 15:47:08 1998 From: seilsd at xxx.net (Damon Seils) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 10:47:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i'd be happy but i am hebrew Message-ID: <363DD3FC.21A7@earthlink.net> You begin to realize there's little to be said about the Washington, D.C., gig once you know that the band covered a _Southpark_ song. I hate to add to the confusion, but I could have sworn it was Stuart David at the piano who was responsible for this, just before he broke into "A Century of Elvis." So we can now say, most assuredly, that "It's Hard to Be a Jew at Christmas" was performed by Stuart D and/or Chris, possibly with backing from Isobel and/or Sarah. Exact, in'it? It's probably not even important. Let me just quote John Monroe for a moment... "I saw B&S cover a Southpark tune!!" The venue was full up and, as Mr Dossinger says, <>. I know because I was one of the guys over 6'2" populating the front and center. Ah, well. Perhaps you'll find some justice in the fact that I was trapped behind a boy who was even taller than me. And thicker. Anyway, Reid gave an excellent synopsis of what went on at the show. I wish I'd known he was there: I could have added him to the list of sinister bunnies I met, many for the first time. Imagine seeing the band onstage, and just in front of you are Megan, Mick, Brian, Matt (the adorable NYC foursome); you know that somewhere in back are John and Michele; and the crowd pressing against you, filling the room, is undoubtedly dotted with sinisterines you wouldn't know from an empty beer bottle on the floor. Add to this the awkward, nervous little chats you had with Stu M and Chris before the show, and... Is this what it feels like to lose gravity? It's certainly enough to take away the pain of the Guv'ner set. --- Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 14:55:32 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 14:55:32 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I wanna be a part of it. Message-ID: <363DC7E4.2A4@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Heh-heh. I have just converted a entire family of Swedes to the joys of Belle and Sebastian. In return they give me shirts and shoes that the dad of the family used to wear in the sixties. This takes my B&S convertion score up to 9 (nine!) and some of them were Embrace fans as well. Thanks to NYC for being so bloody lovely and warm while I was there, you can keep your bloody British reserve, bad teeth, appaling weather and confusing underwear mate, give me an unfeasibly warm October week in Brooklyn anytime. Special thanks to lovely Will/Bill for putting up with me and Linda for so long and with such good grace, we promise to return the favour when you come to London. And don't any of you American cousins listen to certain Xenophobic hi-jackers, you're all wondrously soft and snuggly bundles of joy and I love you individualy and repeatedly ;) Sorry this is all such meaningless drivel, it's just that I've been away for so long that I wanted to post something just to keep me hand in like, Oh I know! The Mercury Rev album. It's fantastic, listening to it for the first time with a wide ranging trans-continental demogrphic of young groovy people brought about references to Sparklehorse, Marriane Faithful and the songs that Angela Lansbury sings as the teapot in Beauty and the Beast. Personaly I think it sounds like Kermit's nephew Robin off of the Muppets singing a concept Broadway musical about bowed saw solos. And if that isn't a reccomendation I don't know what is! What is the Dukes book? What's it called? I'll make it a staff pick at my bookshop and sell milions of the buggers. StayLuckyRoryxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rkb200 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 16:30:41 1998 From: rkb200 at xxx.edu (Raquelita) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:30:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: time for B&S tonight? Message-ID: Does anyone know what time the band will be going on tonight? Tickets say 8:00 but is that for the doors to open or the show to start? thanks... rachel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 16:42:29 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:42:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Some ink polaroids before I forget. Keywords: Sandwich, burn, thatcher, exploit, prison, cigarette, lozenge Message-ID: <199811021636.QAA00340@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Hokay. I've been putting this off all weekend. Except yesterday when I managed to burn my hand on my sandwich toaster and spend the rest of the day with it (my hand) in ice water. What's more I've won another one (a sandwich toaster) from the NatWest who I don't even have an account with, but I'm glad to exploit an orgainsation illegally privatised by evil evil evil evil Thatch. BTW people - please don't worry about my 18-hour sleep. I'm not ill or anything, so you can stop telling me to go to the doctor. Right, here we go; Here's one which is in a strange hazy circle. It's looking out of an eyehole down a long faceless straight corridor. No-one is about at all. Think higher class of prison. This is where I live. This one is looking across a small-ish square park with 2 diagonal paths cutting it into four triangles of grass. In the centre of the picture is a long line of people trudging towards a set of buildings in the centre. To the right is some grass where schoolkids play a game of football. This is a view from a window. The whole left side of the picture is dominated by a huge building looking like flats or some kind of hall of residence. at the side there seems to be an extention, the door of which, near to the centre of the picture, is open and displays a full laundry basket and a row of machines. Outside the door, filling the space to the right of the picture there is a lot of neatly mown grass, and a middle aged woman with black hair leaning against the wall of the house smoking a cigarette. Meanwhile a cat lies in the sun. To the top of the photo is a road, beside which is a high wall on which a line of children, who cant be more that ten, precariously walk. This one is in a small, dingy, empty bar. 5 people sit around a table, and behind them you can see the tackily decorated bar with a couple of people standing near it. The foreground is a table with drinks and these five - from the left to the right a drably dressed girl whispering to her evidently more socially acceptable friend, who half listens while partially turning to a long haired indie boy with a ridiculous goatee beard. He's talking to the frighteningly stereotypical indie-lad with an 'status quoasis' t-shirt, and to the far right of our scene, a tall pierced boy with short bleached hair. This is in a small bedroom. To the right of the scene are 4 blokes giggling about lozenges, for some reason. There are the indie-bloke and the long haired one from the scene above, plus a large middle aged man and a wiry, blokey one. These three are watching the TV. Huddled up with the camera are a chinese girl and a strange boy dressed up with a scarf and flying jacket like biggles, all 3 covered up by coats and lying against the wall. XXXXXXXXX WeeJay James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LeslieH at xxx.COM Mon Nov 2 16:35:42 1998 From: LeslieH at xxx.COM (Lesley Higgins) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:35:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: time for B&S tonight? Message-ID: <01F2E5A1F9BBD01186420000C0DBCFDB2115AD@NTMIS> I went last night and they had the doors open by 7ish, opening band Containe were on by about 8 and B+S were on by 9:30. As you know it's sold out so get there early... Lesley ---------- From: Raquelita[SMTP:rkb200 at xxx.edu] Sent: Monday, November 02, 1998 11:31 AM To: sinister Subject: Sinister: time for B&S tonight? Does anyone know what time the band will be going on tonight? Tickets say 8:00 but is that for the doors to open or the show to start? thanks... rachel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 16:43:30 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 11:43:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: We all have our Guv'ner stories it seems... Message-ID: <199811021643.LAA65914@dept.english.upenn.edu> How funny that they opened for B&S! Although not so funny if you were there I suppose. Gosh, what a match-up, you might as well have had Cannibal Corpse play! At least they would've been entertaining. I had the misfortune to see them open for the Lilys last week, and while they weren't *terrible*, it's sometimes worse to be mediocre, which they were. And again, the match-up made little to no sense. THe only think I could appreciate were some of the guitar squeals and squalls, but not much else. I even remember hearing about them on another stop of the Lilys tour and the person who posted at the time said something to the effect of how bad they were. I thought "Oh, how bad could they be?" Well, not BAD bad, but in the context of the show... I feel sorry for you Sinisterites who saw what must have been a *painful* juxtaposition. I think one of the worst match-ups I've heard of (but not seen) was Counting Crows opening for Suede. I myself witnessed a Godawful band called Distant Shores open for Blur...it was supposed to be Pulp but I guess Philly (the last stop on the Parklife tour) was not on their itinerary. So we got this American band who pretended they were British all glammed up in makeup and glittery sleeveless shirts. The singer would regularly shake an open water bottle to simulate ejaculation...bleah. On top of the glammy rock was some awful sequenced electronic parts... At the very least, these things pummel the audience and allow the headlining band to come in and slay. Best match-ups, tone-wise, could very well be Codeine and Mazzy Star...ah, so that's what it feels like to be in a coma! (It was good though, don't get me wrong). Anyone else have bad match-up concert stories? Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 17:14:17 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:14:17 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Bad Matchings Message-ID: Hello from this frozen laboratory to all listees , especially to physical chemical brothers and sisters (they are likely aware of these sacrifices on behalf of science...) The worst matching experience I can remember was quite a long time ago, a Londoner band opening in Madrid for Elastica, when Justine was still Brit Pop's sweetheart...etc, and they had just released their first album , I think (spring 95).Supergrass were the expected ones, but some of them had just had his first kid and came back to England suddenly to celebrate the happy event with the family I cannot even remember the name of their stand in's.Something with the word Kinky in it.They were the most awful impersonators of The Jam I never saw, with some glam crossing too , apart from some bassist wearing a horrid Adidas orange jacket jumping all over the stage without any sense of ridiculous or rythm. But as the smutty time seems to have finished , I will not tell you the worst of this story... Another remarkably pathetic coupling was some awful Z series Spanish band with adorable Pavement during their last tour in Spain: the gap between them and Mercury Rev, who had been Pavement's matching in some sort of Big Cat festival I first saw them,tended to infinity and more Late happy Halloween... Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 17:14:14 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 12:14:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: mismatched openers Message-ID: i think probably one of the worst match ups was when i went to see beck/cardigans/atari teenage riot at my university. they had atr and then the cardigans but by the time atr were finished i swear my ears were bleeding and my hearing was already fuzzy. other than that the match ups have been fairly good still smiling over such a wonderful show in athens, roberta **oh you look so tired + "Rock'n'roll is the most brutal, mouth slack and wide + ugly, vicious form of expression - ill-housed and ill-advised + sly, lewd, in fact plain dirty..a your face is as mean as + rancid-smelling aphrodisiac..the your life has been + martial music of every delinquent crash into my arms + on the face of the earth..." i want you****** + -'jack the ripper' (morrissey) + -Frank Sinatra 1957 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ardhui at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 17:25:20 1998 From: ardhui at xxx.com (Frederic £) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 09:25:20 PST Subject: Sinister: New Message-ID: <19981102172520.4708.qmail@hotmail.com> My name is Fred. Form France, we've heard a very good perf of B&S on the radio France Inter (sthg like BBC). Happy to know you're existing in this world. Tenderly, Fred. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Nov 2 17:28:21 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:28:21 +0100 Subject: Sinister: List Legends in the Making Message-ID: <01be0686$30a72fc0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Rory, Duke's book is called "Young and Foolish - A Personal Pop Odyssey", and is written under the frankly bizarre pseudonym "Alistair Fitchett". It is published by Stride, who turn out to be a poetry press! Its number is ISBN 1 900152509. It'll change your life. Unless you've already read it on the Information Superhighway, in which case it's a nice souvenir. Stuart Gardiner's in it, and Paul and Jamie Huxley and Michele Waggner and some other people. I wonder if the chapter entitled "American Rock" is a tribute to Denim? I bet it bloody is you know. List Legend 1: Teddy Pendergrass. Today I snapped up "The Philly Sound: Kenny Gamble, Leon Huff and the Story of Brotherly Love (1966 - 1976)", featuring the aforementioned Teddy Pendergass during his time with Harold, Melvin and the Blue Notes. I haven't listened to it yet, but I just know it's great. It looks and smells fabulous. I've never seen so many afros in one place. List Legend 2: Richard Roundtree. On Thursday (I think) I'm hoping to see the big man himself on the big screen. Sadly not in "Shaft", "Shaft's Big Score" or "Shaft in Africa". Looking at the posters for the Horror and Fantasy Film Festival, my eye was caught by something called "The Winged Serpent", and there was Richard Rowntree lurking way down the cast list. Some of you may have seen this film on late night everyone's in bed telly. It's absolute shit, but I'm going to see it anyway. I think the director's going to be there, so if he is, I'm going to ask him for Richard Roundtree's autograph so I can send it to the fantastically funky FunkySeb, whose Richard Rowntree joke was one of the highlights of my life. List Legend 3: Reid Dossinger. What can I say that hasn't been said already? All I hope is that New York listees are as willing as Reid and his constantly expanding bevvy of main squeezes to embarrass themselves in front of the band and then tell us all about it. By the way, my chum has said he's definitley going to try to be there tonight, so please feel free to accost total strangers and ask them if they are Cheeky. Which is the best way to pronounce his name. I bet he won't get there, but still. Yesterday I went to the pictures and it was Sliding Doors starring Gwyneth Poultry and she looks like an inside out mackrel and the film was really sick and disgusting and I was frightened and I wanted my mum and everyone gets pregnant twice. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From I.S.Mcburnie at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 17:58:44 1998 From: I.S.Mcburnie at xxx.uk (Ian McBurnie) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:58:44 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Wanted: Mercury Rev ticket Message-ID: HELP! Mercury Rev are sold out! Does anybody out there (well, out there in London/South area) have a Mercury Rev ticket (Highbury Garage - Wednesday 4th Nov) going for sale?! I MUST see them (one of my long time favourite bands you see) I'm such a lazy bugger and always put off buying tickets till another day BUT this time I have finally learnt my lesson! I'm a very desperate man, so I'll pay good money! Here's hoping....... Sebastian. ("Oh Sebastian went too far again.........") (not the usual one - I've been skulking in the shadows for the past year - waiting for something even mildly interesting to say) PS Oh yeah, erm... e-mail me personally if anyone has a ticket then we can come to some arrangement, cheers! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 18:00:52 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:00:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Dog On Wheels--availability In-Reply-To: <7ede79fe.363d5525@aol.com> Message-ID: At 1:45 -0500 02/11/98, IndiaRubb at aol.com wrote: [Just wondering if Dog On Wheels has become tough to get as an import in the [US. The guy at my local record store said he's been trying to get it in stock [for ages, and I noticed CDNow has it on backorder... [ [(sorry if it's been asked before, but searching the archives is a pain...I get [terrible DL rates to the site) [ [gwt yeah, it's harder to find than 369 and lazy line painter jane. not to mention sinister, which is available just about anywhere (even Best Buy carries it). i spent about 4 months looking for it (hey, i've only been a fan for five months) and found it last week at newbury comics. i was elated. i do believe that MusicBoulevard has it in stock, as i was perusing their B&S section the other day. -kerry "it's alright, sugar. it's a crazy world, it's a bit absurd." -komeda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 18:02:36 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:02:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: judy and the dream of horses Message-ID: so i was at the flea market with teri yesterday and we found something really strange. it was this box with a doll and a horse in it. the doll was named Judy, and the horse was, well, her horse. it was like $10. if it had been cheaper i would've bought it and sent it to someone from the band. it was just a little too silly. of course, i could've just stolen it and been the girl who stole a horse . . . -kerry "it's alright, sugar. it's a crazy world, it's a bit absurd." -komeda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Mon Nov 2 18:14:55 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:14:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Advice to those seeking nov 2nd tickets Message-ID: <852566B0.006304DF.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> Last night there were a number of people sporadically showing up at the Supper Club selling extra tickets. I was out there for a while and saw at least a good 10+ transactions at (for the most part) warm and fuzzy prices. I got one ticket for $20 (actually I gave the girl an extra five bucks also because she was broke and wanted a t-shirt) and then i got the second ticket for maki (my girlfriend) for free from Jenny (i hope i got the name right) who had two spots on the guest list. Just a tip for the distraught. .scott ps: THANKs again Jenny, you're as pure as the cold driven snow. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 18:19:24 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:19:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dog On Wheels--availability References: Message-ID: <363DF7AC.B85DD9FF@jeepster.co.uk> it's been fairly tough to get as we've just had to re-press the ep's. and because of the supply chain being as it is when the UK is about to go out of stock, the rest of the world probably is out of stock. we've increased our re-order value (does anyone care?) to treble the amount we usually make, so in future the CD should not be unavailable because it's outof stock, but only due to shipping delays (out of our hands). this may be boring, but at least you'll know why CDnow and other companies can't get it right now. the re-press's should be available stateside via import in a few weeks, UK shops should be back in stock at the end of this week. cheers -- azriel wrote: > > At 1:45 -0500 02/11/98, IndiaRubb at aol.com wrote: > [Just wondering if Dog On Wheels has become tough to get as an import in the > [US. The guy at my local record store said he's been trying to get it in stock > [for ages, and I noticed CDNow has it on backorder... > [ > [(sorry if it's been asked before, but searching the archives is a pain...I get > [terrible DL rates to the site) > [ > [gwt -- david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Mon Nov 2 18:24:06 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:24:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: gOD THIS IS GRIM Message-ID: <002566B0.00638FD6.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear all, Hello. Hope it has been a fruitful weekend for everybody. Halloween, what a load of arse that is. Unfortunately I got myself into a wee bit of a state on Friday night and missed the rest of the weekend. What a shame, missing out on a load of drunken revellers decked out in bin liners and bad eye make-up. I've been left alone in the office this evening, every so often someone has to stay until 7pm and this week it's me. Oh joy of fucking joys. I really cannot be bothered working at this time of night. Luckily the boss goes away at 17:30 so I don't have to do an awful lot but it's dark now and sort of creepy. It's very odd being here alone, in this huge state of the art office thing in the middle of the Sussex downs. Just me and the security guards who are roaming the building just about now looking for I don't know what really. Mind you I'm glad there here. I've only been here for a while and it's odd being left on my own. Somebody just phoned in with a critical fault and I don't really know what to do, or who to tell. Maybe I should just throw it into the bin or something. I don't seem to cope awfully well with pressure and responsibility of anykind. Not that I'm some sort of flake or anything. I don't know. Quite tired now actually. AND, AND RIGHT I've got to get all the way back to Brighton after this. Oooh I'm getting a headache and I'm starting to feel a bit nauseous. I suppose I can e-mail in a lot more privacy with everyone else at home. There's this one woman on my team called Jill and she just doesn't like me at all. I don't know what I've done but she seems to look at me in a certain way. A which suggests that she's thinking 'You may fool the others but you don't fool me.' WHY???? What have I ever done to her. NOTHING that's what!!! 35mins to go and I'll be free, until tomorrow. I'll be too late home to buy any cheese!!!! Disaster. Is anyone going to see the fireworks up at the ally pally this weekend? Not that anyone will answer this question cos no'one will be arsed to read this tedious post all the way to the end. Goodbye Love RIchardxxxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TopBanana1 at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 18:43:38 1998 From: TopBanana1 at xxx.com (TopBanana1 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:43:38 EST Subject: Sinister: THE SHOW LAST NIGHT Message-ID: <54a229e2.363dfd5a@aol.com> BELLE & SEBASTIAN- NOV 1, 1998- SUPPER CLUB lets see.... me aaron & maurice got there at about 10 to 7, met up with stephen, my love, then we waited on line for a half hour or so i think, got a tshirt, stuff to drink, just sat around deciding weather or not to steal the B & S posters on the walls. Aaron took one. Stephen was jealous! We shoulda all taken. the opening band Containe was kinda mediocre, your average pop/rock band, a few nice progressions, but nothing great. they messed up a few times, i think she dropped her pic, im not sure, but I dont think anyone cared. no one was listening anyway. one of the guitarists was smoking while he was playing guitar. The smoke from the cigarette looked pretty sexy rising up from his guitar into a white wave in the air, but completely unpractical. That band was not good enough to be able to smoke & play at the same time. one or the other buddy! Im so mean, sorry, they really weren't THAT bad. Stephen wanted to know why he wasnt allowed to smoke inside the venue! (The supper club is a gorgeous venue, by the way. Complete with mints the the bathrooms.) so now containe finished!! yay!!! Belle & sebastian are coming on soon! We're standing there for about a half hour singing to beatles tunes, the name game, reaching our retard potential, and finally they come on. I was psyched like crazy, antisipating this moment for months down to weeks down to days to hours to minutes. And "the state i am in" comes on, good song, but i was looking for a little more excitement. ok, fine, next song, "belle & sebastian", i was looking for a little more excitement. Next song, Slow Graffiti, nice song, but im looking for a little more exitement, play me & the major or soemthing. was not my favorite set list. nope. theyt played some great songs though, shes losing it i loved, seeing other people was nice. simple things spectacular, tis a shame its only a minute long. They did a beautiful cover of turn turn turn. Stuart M. has nice arms. Stuart D. has a nice face. for Spaceboy dream they put on the big disco ball, very cool. then there was another series of songs i didnt know from the EPs. Im quite ashamed but i got bored from that, laying my head on stephens shoulder. Aaron seemed to be enjoying it though, dancing around. the crowd was sorta lame. everyone was dressed cool and everything but when it came down to the actual music, lots of people didnt seem to be into it, they werent moving around at all, not even tapping their feet, they were just staring at the stage. Maybe they did enjoy it and they dont feel the urge to dance around when they like music, i dont know. Youd think everyone there was a critic or something, all they did was stand there and look at the band, analyzing it or something, but there was lots of applause after each song, so i guess they did like it. Us 4 and, at most, only 2 other handfuls of people that i saw were going crazy, but maybe thats because we were a little drunk.I think i woulda been like that either way. or maybe not. but who cares cause it was more fun this way. Thanks Stephen!!!!! I got a bit of a belly ache though. The set was pretty short. not happy with the set list. but of course thats only according to my taste. Im sure someone else loved it. no dissapointments without expectations. We all cheered for an encore but it didnt happen. Concerts over, stephen gets another beer. We get out jackets from the coat check, aaron got soem autographs, I spoke to the hot guy in the yellow shirt. He was 28 but he looked like a baby. Most people there were older, like late 20's. I know its not old, but for me, being 15, it is. Um, so thats about it. As we're walking out the door either Maurice or Aaron shook Staurt D.s hand cause he was talking to him before, so i just shook his hand for the hell of it. sexy handshake! Im in love with Staurt D. Isobel was wearing a funny white dress or something with sequins, haha, so cute. Ok, took two pictures with me maurice stephen and aaron, gave stephen a goodbye hug and went home. love shirl ___________ Shirley Braha's Homepage ___________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jaygatsby at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 18:52:40 1998 From: jaygatsby at xxx.com (Sean McVeigh) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 13:52:40 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #454 In-Reply-To: <199811021516.PAA12278@sloth.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981102135240.00813a80@mail.geocities.com> > http://www.treehouse.clara.net/bookshop.htm# use this url to order below book > >I have a question about something that has come into my hands. I would >look in the archives if I had any more information on it, but as it >stands now I really don't want to search everything post '96. > > >My girlfriend surprised me yesterday with a little book. She says I >gave it to her early last summer, but I'll be damned if I remember >doing it. It is titled "Ink Polaroids of Belle and Sebastian" by >Stuart David, copyright 1996. It is small, about 4 inches by 3 inches. > It's 16 ink Polaroids and sketches, mostly about the recording of and >time near Tigermilk. My question is this: What the >hell is this and how did it arrive in my possession? > > >have a good day, > >jason > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helenalauren at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 18:29:16 1998 From: helenalauren at xxx.com (Helena Lauren) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 11:29:16 -0700 Subject: Sinister: list crush Message-ID: Hello... I have a question about the sinister picture page ("as we are now") who's that adorable boy in the the photo titled "Chrispoof"....a member of this list? If so i know who MY list crush is.. Helena, a newish sinister girl. *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 20:02:02 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:02:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: PJ, the man of good taste Message-ID: <199811022000.UAA04959@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> PJ Miller wrote: >List Legend 1: Teddy Pendergrass. >Today I snapped up "The Philly Sound: Kenny Gamble, Leon >Huff and the Story of Brotherly Love (1966 - 1976)", >featuring the aforementioned Teddy Pendergass during his >time with Harold, Melvin and the Blue Notes. I haven't >listened to it yet, but I just know it's great. It looks and >smells fabulous. I've never seen so many afros in one place. What mighty fine taste he has, this was one of those cd collections that just screams buy me buy me when you see it. So my Dad did, his era you see. But not to worry I have conviscated it. Uninteresting and irrelevent story: My middle name is Leon because they decided that Leon Huff was such a legend. Any way, I'll get my coat. It's getting colder now, and remember to wrap up warm to avoid hyperthermia. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 20:01:54 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:01:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: List crush In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Am I the only one who's taken 2 days to get all the makeup off from Halloween? I think I might have to send a photo of me in costume to the Sinister site, cos there aren't any of me there yet. Then again, given what I looked like it'll stop me getting any list crushes forever... Speaking of which, since the smut level seems to have fallen alarmingly low the last couple of days, I think it must be time for another list crush vote. We haven't had one for about 3 months now, and I'm sure there'll be a few new entries. So whoever you've got a list crush on (there must be someone...), let me know and I'll compile a chart next week sometime, to save Kristen having to do it all again. All replies will be treated entirely anonymously (unless you tell me otherwise!). And you can be sure I'll be completely impartial, 'cos I didn't get a single vote last time :-( All I ask is that you put "List crush" in the subject of the email so it's easier for me. Oh yeah, and don't send it to the whole list by mistake... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 20:15:13 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:15:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Celebs n' Seb Message-ID: <199811022015.PAA22764@dept.english.upenn.edu> Just read AP (the shadow of its former self) on my lunch break, and hte last page celebrity interview thingy was with Sandra Bernhard. Well, among her favorite new artists is none other than Bn'S. She said something like "I really have to get the new one...I really loved _IYFS_, it had this '60s/'70s vibe without really trying." Just months ago it seemed I read Chloe Sevigny's interview and she also is a big fan, comparing them to the Smiths. So far the celebs who like B&S seem pretty respectable I suppose and not hugely mainstream...we're still a ways away from The View interviewing Sarah and Isobel on their next stop in the US, but really, with that kind of star power behind the band, you just know they're going to explode in some way. I predict it'll be on the soundtrack of a movie... Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Mon Nov 2 21:21:43 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 21:21:43 Subject: Sinister: list crush Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981102212143.2a0f1f50@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Helena Lauren had a crush... >Hello... >I have a question about the sinister picture page ("as we are now") who's that adorable boy in the the photo titled "Chrispoof"....a member of this list? >If so i know who MY list crush is.. > and i realize that there is no photo of me on Sinister ! And nobody cried ? Nobody woke up to say : "Oh god, there is no photo of Philippe-with-one-L-and-2-P's on sinister, we have to call a minister, buy a camera and find a photograph, we have to get a photo !". And all the listees start to sing : How will I get one, I don't know How will I get one, I don't know How will I get him to strike a pose ? So I am striking a pose, and I am waiting.... "cheese" ! So now, who wants a photo ? Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Mon Nov 2 20:51:55 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 15:51:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Schmut: the thrust debate continues..... Message-ID: <852566B0.00715E55.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> back to getting thrush from licking railings interpretations: 1. There is an independent Jim Carroll tribute disc coming out soon called "Put Your Tongue to the Rail". So is it an allusion to a Jim Carroll poem or an allusion to Carroll's old time best friend, Smack? Come on all you junkies on the list, fess up, is this in your vocab! we need to know. 2. Here is my real schmutty interpretation. Okay, so the scientific name for "thrush" is "Candida albicans"- nasty oral fungal infection yada, yada, yada. Well, the scientific name for the common vaginal yeast infection is also "Candida" something or other. And, I'm no doctor, just a smutoglogist, but I am almost positive that you can get thrust from (here comes the smut) going down on someone who has a yeast infection. Thus and therefore, making railings, well, i think you can use your visual imagination....... .scott -i think its bathtime. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 20:17:51 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:17:51 -0400 Subject: Sinister: hallowe'en! and list crushes Message-ID: >Am I the only one who's taken 2 days to get all the makeup off from >Halloween? I think I might have to send a photo of me in costume to the >Sinister site, cos there aren't any of me there yet. Then again, given >what I looked like it'll stop me getting any list crushes forever... > >Speaking of which, since the smut level seems to have fallen alarmingly >low the last couple of days, I'm not very good at smut, but I can tell you that I was Tinkerbell for Hallowe'en...I had pale blue glittery wings and wore glitter tights, turquoise glitter hotpants (yes! hotpants!), a grey top and went all out with the Jerome Russell Hair + Body Glitter Spray. Perhaps I should have taken a picture, since my crushboy (that's Ahren, for those of you who haven't kept up) said I was "so cute" and he ruffled my hair and came away covered in glitter. Hm, I'll have to see who was taking photos...maybe I could inspire a list crush. Then again, maybe not. love, jessicaxo ps. For some reason, I was asked if I was a spice girl. How demeaning...although I was thinking of being Easy Spice, with black leather and domintrix gear. Oh well, there's always next year. How I love Hallowe'en! "Homer, you've got it set on 'whore'." **************************************************** Someone had spied on us, I suppose, as we sat beside the canal and ate the sandwiches, drinking not even orangeade or Coca-Cola but hot milk out of a thermos. *************************************************** t i n y s t a r @ w o r l d y . c o m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 21:29:42 1998 From: Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com (Horlivy, Dorigen) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:29:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I am not a dork Message-ID: <19671EA2F1A6D011AA5100609731D18201E862CF@ank13s.ibd.gs.com> Hi there, My name is Dorigen and I was able to score exactly ONE ticket to tonight's show (thanks Ezra) and will thus be going it alone. I would not be as scared if I hadn't been nearly beaten up by a gang of skinheads for dressing up as Hanson this weekend. Are there any friendly people out there who I could say hello to at the show? Email me at dorigen80 at hotmail.com and not at this address, if you feel kindness, but not pity. Thanks. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hgfriel at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 21:36:42 1998 From: hgfriel at xxx.uk (Hugh Friel) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:36:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Schmutty boy Message-ID: <000201be06a9$0ff7f2a0$3831883e@default> QUOTEbut I am almost positive that you can get thrust from (here comes the smut) going down on someone who has a yeast infection. Thus and therefore, making railingsUNQUOTE. ? Am I just thick? Someone elucidate in graphic detail please - lay it on thick - I don't know what scenario my imagination will throw up next. Oh, and 'Hello sinistrals' Moog1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rogerjon9 at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 21:51:29 1998 From: rogerjon9 at xxx.com (RogerJ) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 13:51:29 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: NY Show + Message-ID: <199811022151.NAA03131@gull.prod.itd.earthlink.net> I must admit it has been torture reading all these concert reviews from all you fine folks out there while I waited for November 2nd to roll around. Reading these reviews from my cramped rathole of an apartment in NY was painful but what everyone said while I waited for them to play in my fair city was absolutely correct. Somehow I survived the anticipation and am here to tell you they RULE! Easily the best show of the year. Also wanted to pass on some info to you. As B&S fans, I know you have excellent taste in music and I am lucky enough to have heard the new live double CD from Spiritualized (sent to me by a friend in London). It is most excellent and should be coming out in the states really soon. And whoever recommended www.talesofwoe.com a few weeks back, you were right. Great site. Finally, I heard a rumor at the show that B&S will be releasing yet another CD (yes!) in February or March. Is that why they've been performing all these new songs? Is it going to be an EP or full length CD? Anyone have any word on that? Roger +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 22:14:19 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:14:19 EST Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream #1 Message-ID: <972452d3.363e2ebb@aol.com> Dear list, Here's my review of the Nov 1 gig. First off, I bought the Nov select with the London gig review. I like the picture of Stu M. holding a bucket. He looks like a cherub. I got to the show later than I would have wanted, around 7:30ish. There wasn't much of a line because a lot of people were already inside. I didn't see anyone selling tickets for tonight's show though! Poo. I saw wee Chris walking around like he was lost. He was wearing flares and converse all-stars, and looked very cute. He reminds me of a lizard. In a good way of course. Containe were okay but not anything special. Some dude who's really tall was standing directly in front of me so I couldn't see anything anyway. Was that Acid House playing in the beginning? I wasn't sure but it was funny none the less. It took a bit (but not a long long bit) for B&S to come on, but when they did it got very silent. Stu M. looked very scared and shy for the first song, The State I Am In. It was beautiful. He hoped we weren't too sweaty. Lord Anthony was fantastic. It was my first time hearing it. I had a big smile on my face for the whole show. The part where Stu D. played that music box or little keyboard in Lazy Line Painter Jane that goes, well I can't explain it but it's between the verses, that was grand. She's Losing It wasn't very upbeat but was still very lovely. Isobel looked either pissed or just nervous when she had to sing her parts. When Stuart was singing the end of TBWTAS, he trailed off too quickly and didn't quite sing the word 'wank'. Stu M. is the most beautiful creature I've ever seen. He's not human. I think he's an elf boy with rosy cheeks. His voice is the most heavenly, angelic voice I've ever heard. He was wearing a tight off white t-shirt and those were beautiful arms he's got! I didn't get to talk to B&S or give Stu M. the picture I drew of him because my sister had to go back to college. I don't mind though. It was a fantastic show. I had a dream about it, but I don't remember what happened. Maybe it was a dirty dream. Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Mon Nov 2 21:18:02 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:18:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: wee willy winklie Message-ID: <000201be06b0$294a52a0$584d989e@elsato97> Well shiver me timbers! just listened to Latwat, who said Belle and Sebastian are Number 2 on college radio charts! Impressed......trhen again, hearing this pants that is number one, I'm not sure if thats an honour or not.... my mail and connection in general seems to be buggerd, so lets see if sending owt helps...i'll be interesting later cha?! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twinkle at xxx.net Mon Nov 2 23:18:16 1998 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:18:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: from toronto to planet marzipan and back again Message-ID: <199811022318.XAA17106@trapdoor.aracnet.net> Evening everyone, Sigh, so much to write about after being away for a week. I'm sitting here feeling rather broken-hearted, but it's worth it you know. I got to spend a whole week eating marzipan in the park and watching Father Ted with someone who knows how to rule. First of all, a big pint of Scrumpy Jack goes out to jj who drove all the way from Ann Arbor with her friends because they thought a weekend in Toronto would be fun even without b&s playing. I have not seen this girl in 2 years so it was hugs all around. And jj was a shutterbug, she took polaroids. We even did photobooth stickers at the scary arcade near the big HMV. I only wish I could have seen her dancing away like mad at the soul night, where she won the dancing contest! I would have gladly joined her in a twist and shake to "nothing but heartaches" or "love love love" but I had a date at the airport and had to leave the pub before the booty shaking started. I was just beaming with pride when I found out she won! Hello to those I sort of met at "official b&s meet" at the Public Library pub that night too, I'm a bit shy so I didn't talk much, but you all looked happy and chatty. Peter and John, thank you for your very nice letters after I posted about B&S having to cancel. The Duke of Gloucester northern soul outing would have been extra fun with you. Come by Toronto sometime and we'll keep the dancing contest trophy where it belongs, in sinister clutches! Pookie, yes honey, I got your lovely little letter and photo. Mr. Sparkly Orange and I enjoyed reading it very much indeed. I will scan it soon to prove to the world that you are not Hank. For those of you in NYC about to enjoy your second B&S show, have fun. The wee green goblin of jealously reared its head for a brief second, but you know what? There will be another time. And we got to see the Teletubbies at my local pub on Hallowe'en Saturday *and* get a free pint because the pub owner thought his favourite boxer was winning the match and bought everyone a round. love, elisabeth xx P.S. Kenickie may have split up, but don't deny yourself the scrumptious album that is "get in". I plan to play "magnatron" when I (fingers crossed) spin with DJ "oh yeah" Cambazola, and the kids will dance if they have any sense. P.P.S. Is it really true--Ant & Dec have joined our midsts? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asellars at xxx.com Mon Nov 2 23:28:55 1998 From: asellars at xxx.com (Allen Sellars) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 15:28:55 PST Subject: Sinister: THE SHOW LAST NIGHT Message-ID: <19981102232855.21592.qmail@hotmail.com> Shirl wrote... >. everyone was >dressed cool and everything but when it >came down to the actual music, lots of people didn't >seem to be into it, After I got there I was hope that the Supper Club would have left their sport coat policy in tack for the night. Maybe if all the alt-rockers had been dressed alike in sport coats they would have stopped trying to be so cool AND DANCED! It is time for rock crowds to get beyond the head-nod dance and start acting like they are enjoying it. That and stop talking during shows. "Who is singing that part? What is making that noise? Where is the singer?" That was what I heard most of the time during last night's concert . My nasty glances went ignored and I felt cheapened that I had to resort to nasty glances at a B & S show. Anyway, I was stoked. I usually don't like live acts that try to sound exactly like the album, but they were so tight and having such a good time that I couldn't help myself. In addition to a great show, Times Square was deserted when we walked home afterwards. It felt so small. Almost like a model of Time Square that someone had built. Life does exist above 14th street in Manhattan. back to lurking, Allen ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Mon Nov 2 23:42:26 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 00:42:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Xilophone Message-ID: <363E4362.4BDBC2A6@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi members, my friend give me "va va voom" the new cinerama's cd.It's a good work , and when i listen the track #3 i listen the beautiful sound of xilophone. Now i think that we'll be wonderfull if B&S use this instrument. It's only a little....little....little opinion. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cms247 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 2 23:55:08 1998 From: cms247 at xxx.edu (clint stauffer) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 18:55:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: DC show Message-ID: <363E465C.74E266E2@is6.nyu.edu> I found a review of the DC show on the Washington Post web site, as well as their Friday preview. Just some more material to add to the press archives. Album review: http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-10/30/044l-103098-idx.html Show review: http://search.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/WPlate/1998-11/02/045l-110298-idx.html Clint +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casio at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 00:27:07 1998 From: casio at xxx.com (Tony Zito) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:27:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: THE SHOW LAST NIGHT Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981102192707.00741d3c@asan.com> oh my oh my, here it is 7:30 and i can't find my tix to the show tonight...bought them thru ticketmaster, is there anything i can do?? sigh. t. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cms247 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 00:38:09 1998 From: cms247 at xxx.edu (clint stauffer) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 19:38:09 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Far too much dancing, not nearly enough prancing References: <19981102232855.21592.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <363E5071.22F6EE54@is6.nyu.edu> > >. everyone was > >dressed cool and everything but when it > >came down to the actual music, lots of people didn't > >seem to be into it, > > After I got there I was hope that the Supper Club would have left their > sport coat policy in tack for the night. Maybe if all the alt-rockers > had been dressed alike in sport coats they would have stopped trying to > be so cool AND DANCED! Hmm. I have heard this sentiment on about every list I've been on. Why do some people not dance during the shows? It might be because they don't want to dance at shows. Maybe they're there to just watch the band. Maybe dancing is not how they express their enjoyment. If you like to dance at shows, go right ahead. Find a nice spot where you're not going to be constantly bumping into other people (something that can be very annoying) and go to town. Please don't tell others how to have a good time or how they should express their enjoyment of the music. > It is time for rock crowds to get beyond the head-nod dance and start > acting like they are enjoying it. Anyway, hope to see some list people at the show tonight. I'll be easy to spot-- I'll be the guy standing quietly watching the show. I might even get a little crazy and do the head-nod dance. Clint +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Tue Nov 3 00:45:10 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 00:45:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Your Monday Poem. Message-ID: <000001be06c3$36d264e0$520c93c3@whelan> Hi All, I nearly did it, I nearly forgot that responsibility for this weeks poem had been handed onto me. Well it's gone midnight, but let's class it as Monday anyway, as it still is for some of you. As threatened it's a Julian Cope job, sorry, I'm not much one for poetry, much too twee for me, more Fluffy's thing really. 87) Well here it comes.... There's Nothing Highbrow About the Eyebrow Brothers- by Julian Cope. "I'm a male Annie Lennox, so I call my album div, 5th columnists are out there, sifting dogshit through a sieve. Man the barricades man, There's no foil on the Kik-Kats, We're altering the stageplan, For an unexpected mishap. The Ringo brother wants to sing, Now Liam's playing guitar, Tremolos licks come thick and fast, The chuffin guy's a star. And the Rutles are suing Noel, So he's ripping off the Faces, Now Liam's over on keyboards, Two syllables rhymes with staces". Well it's short but... err ..sweet, I hope you all enjoyed it. So now I guess I have to hand the honour onto someone else don't I ?. Hmmm, I'm not sure who has or hasn't done one, so I'll hope for the best and pass it onto..... the one the only, the irrepressible, the inflatable, Adrian Evans. Let me know if you've already had your turn Mr Evans and I'll try picking someone else. Bye all Gary the not so El Hombre del mullet. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GLBurch at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 00:55:08 1998 From: GLBurch at xxx.com (GLBurch at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:55:08 EST Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe Message-ID: <4a235c3b.363e546c@aol.com> unsubscribe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casio at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 01:07:51 1998 From: casio at xxx.com (Tony Zito) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 20:07:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I'll say it again, I'VE LOST MY TICKETS. In-Reply-To: <000001be06c3$36d264e0$520c93c3@whelan> Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981102200751.00745980@asan.com> Show is starting now, it'll take me about an hour to get there, and what's a boy to do? please, please, a round of warm sinister well wishes might help my out of this jam, or i may simply expire. all dress'd up and no-where to go... t. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LMJ216 at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 01:08:15 1998 From: LMJ216 at xxx.com (LMJ216 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:08:15 EST Subject: Sinister: Far too much dancing, not nearly enough prancing Message-ID: <7d6f6edf.363e577f@aol.com> hello dear listees, i rarely post, but i thought i'd responed to the dancing thing. i went to the supper club show on sunday, and i couldn't dance if i wanted to. i was pressed up against the stage and i couldn't much move. hey i'm not complaining or anything about that. dancing just wasn't an option for me. but anyway i thought the show was wonderful, and i must now join Philippe in his spacerocket. Love Lisa her last words on earth: "slow graffiti was beautiful" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scaredy_kat at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 02:40:39 1998 From: scaredy_kat at xxx.com (Krista A. Garcia) Date: Mon, 02 Nov 1998 21:40:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i heart new york References: Message-ID: <363E6D26.61D2@hotmail.com> Oh my goodnes. I know this is the Belle and Sebastian list and not alt.fan.teen-idols, but I have to share this story with somebody, anybody, all you strangers. For the past three years I've been doing this zine called "The Scaredy-cat Stalker" about my obsession with Henry Thomas (Elliott from "E.T." if you didn't know). I've been devising ways to hunt him down for who knows how long. Well, I had a ticket for the Nov. 1 show, but I was all sick and worried that I wouldn't be able to make it, but I made myself get dressed (at 5 PM) took a bunch of cold medicine and headed off. I get to the show and I'm all dizzy and sweaty, but also giddy and excited about finally seeing Belle and sebastian live. I got behind this guy in a pea coat for awhile and then he turned around and started walking my direction and sweet jesus it was Henry Thomas! I thought I was hallucinating, but it really was him and he knew who I was. It turns out he's a big Belle and Sebastian fan (he's even on this list) and happened to be in town for a couple weeks. How lucky was that? We hung out and he was nice enough to buy me a couple whisky sours. (And Jessica if you're reading this, I'm sorry if I came off as rude or unfriendly when you said hi, but I was in the middle of the biggest freak out of my entire life and I got all tongue-tied). I finally got to meet the object of my obsession face to face and I owe it all to Belle and Sebastian. Oh, and the show wasn't half bad either. Krista-- stalker extraordinaire +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adamiv at xxx.net Tue Nov 3 01:58:45 1998 From: adamiv at xxx.net (robot) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 19:58:45 -0600 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe bounces Message-ID: <199811030159.UAA08145@newman.concentric.net> unsubscribe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Geneusface at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 02:02:20 1998 From: Geneusface at xxx.com (Geneusface at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:02:20 EST Subject: Sinister: Dog On Wheels--availability Message-ID: if you live in the bay area you can find "dog on wheels" at the berkeley rasputin's....that's where i got mine and there were like 4 copies! cheers jessica +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 02:03:27 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 21:03:27 EST Subject: Sinister: Dog On Wheels--availability Message-ID: Thanks for the quick responses, but it actually turned out to be a moot question, since I got an email from CDNow today telling me they've already shipped it off (after noticing it was on backorder, I was wondering how long it would take before they got it in stock...I was expecting a few weeks at least, but it just took a few days, surprise, surprise). So I guess if anyone else wants it, CDNow can get it out pretty fast. gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 04:19:11 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 20:19:11 -0800 Subject: Sinister: My first B&S dream, finally!! Message-ID: <016e01be06e1$208d6c20$f09fcdcf@brier> I showed up for a Belle & Sebastian concert in a really small dingy club somewhere. All plywood walls & bar, etc. A woman at the bar was wearing the new T-shirt design: a yellow shirt with "Belle and Sebastian" written over a picture of the white horse on the hill (like from the XTC album), and the woman looked like the woman from The Full Monty, the (ex)wife of the guy from Trainspotting. I immediately took this woman to be Katrina, and wanted to ask her if she WAS Katrina, and did she remember me from the list as the boy who finally gave her the info on the record store where I bought the Tigermilk bootleg and never heard a reply from her, but I was too shy to approach. Kat, was it you? Anyway, there was the same design as a backdrop behind the stage, but the band wasn't playing at this club. They had to bus us somewhere else. So I put my boombox and my parka behind the bar and got on the bus. It took us on a long winding route, mostly beside a stagnent river that had a dis-used conveyer belt beside it, apparently it used to be an Amazon River-oriented theme park. We got to the venue and I assume we heard them play, but the next thing I remember was being back at the first club, where my boom-box and parka were not where I left them. I asked the "Katrina Full Monty Wife" woman if she'd seen them. She said no, then "wait, I think I saw them in back", then went back & came out with only the radio. Damn parka was gone. My favourite one too. I woke up, momentarily euphoric at having seen B&S live, then remembered it was just a dream. Not even a dirty one. Any interpretations are welcome. -brier +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Astroboy24 at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 04:28:01 1998 From: Astroboy24 at xxx.com (Astroboy24 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 2 Nov 1998 23:28:01 EST Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe Message-ID: <3871ed36.363e8651@aol.com> unsubscribe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Riddley13 at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 06:24:15 1998 From: Riddley13 at xxx.com (Riddley13 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:24:15 EST Subject: Sinister: Supper Club 11/2/98 Message-ID: We rule the school Brilliant career Photo Jenny Is it wicked not to care Dog on wheels Dirty Dream #2 Loneliness of the middle distance runner Seymour Stein Beautiful Mayfly "I think it's gonna be alright" (Stuart D. sang, Stuart M. played trumpet with Mick) I know where the summer goes Boy with the arab strap Century of Fakers "poopy french song that Isobel sings" Definitley the better of the two shows. (That does not include the opening act Guv'ner who played their last show one too late for my tastes) More hand claps during Boy and even for the end of Seymour Stein (which the band really appreciated) I could go on and on but someone else probably will and you get the idea ... To any listees in the Philly or Toronto areas who missed out ... I taped the two NYC shows and am willing to make tapes for you.. email me privately if you are interested ... if the response is overwhelming you may need to send me blanks first ... still lurking and looking for that damn stolen bike riddley13 at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 06:46:16 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:46:16 EST Subject: Sinister: Nov.2, Supper Club Message-ID: Four attempts, three shows... I'm still too close to it all to talk about it. Tonight's set was, near as I could figure" 1. We rule the School 2. Brilliant Career 3. Photo Jenny 4. Is it Wicked... 5. Dog on Wheels 6. Dirty Dream 7. Lonliness of the middle... 8. Seymour Stein 9. Beautiful 10 Mayfly 11. (was this Paper Boat?!?) 12. I Know Where the Summer Goes 13. Boy With the Arab Strap 14. Century of Fakers 15. Poupee de Cire If there are any errors... don't wake me. Leave a note on the toaster, I'm going to sleep now, finally.... what a long strange .... etc. --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 07:25:40 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 02:25:40 EST Subject: Sinister: pants :) Message-ID: OK, one more thing before I can fall asleep.... Stuart was wearing SILVER PANTS!!! Did he go shopping on Canal Street?? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 07:44:58 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 02:44:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: DC & NYC (the first evening) shows Message-ID: <363EB47A.A3B9F6DD@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello Sinisterines, I've just read through 120 posts, so I feel it is my right to be as long-winded as I'd like, though I'm not sure if I can top Reid, or would want to, we'll see when we get to the end of my message, because I've got TWO show reviews in one! Yes, you'll really be getting value in this post... So anyway, I flew in to New York thursday night, and didn't do much beyond going out to dinner. Nothing worth mentioning, I shouldn't suppose. Friday morning Minka and I met up with Brian and took a train to New Jersey. We met up with MrManners (I wish I knew listees by their e-mails rather than their chat nicks, but whoever needs to know who my friends are probably already does) and began our four-hour drive to DC. Not bad, but not don't forget I had to fly to New York first ;) Anyway, the ride down was pretty uneventful, so I'll spare you all the details. We arrived in DC just before Polly's opened up. For those of you who don't know & didn't come, that's where the pre-show meetup was for a few of us. So we got in, got some grub, and the listees began to trickle in. Damon and a friend were there, as well as Clint, Michelle, and the wonderfully Daiskiki-clad (sp?) Corporea Arenacea, complete with brown leather coat a la Shaft. Come to think of it, I played Shaft on the jukebox before he got there, or perhaps when he was there. Anyway, we had some nice chatsies, but after a time a few of us left, and the rest shambled down to the Black Cat. Initially we walked right in to the bar. I'm glad we got there early, after hearing the line horror stories. We spotted a couple members of the band, and someone was talking to Stu M. The best I could manage was to stand nearby whilst they did. Then Megan tracked down Chris Geddes and helped him obtain some quarters, as well as showing him some lovely pressed pennies she'd made on the way (with the aid of a penny press, or whatever such a contraption is named). After a time people began stamping hands over by the entrance, so we got our hands stamped. They really didn't tell us what to do next, and we were pretty frustrated and annoyed at the organization of the club, as we shuffled back and forth between two doors for a bit, finally settling on the one by the bar. After what seemed like forever, they opened the door, and we poured in. I headed straight for the T-shirt stand, and managed to procure a Stow shirt for myself, discovering much to my dismay that the merchandise-sellers were totally badge-less. I returned from my T-shirt purchasing to find that the rest of the crew had secured a spot that was quite close to the stage, though we were directly behind the three really tall guys. Luckily I'm not really short, so I had a decent view. Stereolab was blasted loudly, as someone said, and Guv'ner played. I hesitate to say anything bad about Guv'ner, just because they could be great at what they do, and I still wouldn't like them. Regardless, they were a poor opening choice. I think the Masters of the Hemisphere should have opened ALL the dates, but we can't always get what we want. The Guv'ner set lasted forever, but I'll stay away from that subject and get to the good bits. So B&S finally came on. Before seeing them, I had really always held on to the belief that loud, upbeat bands would always have better live performances than quiet, soft bands. I think I've totally changed my mind, and both DC's show and the NY show to follow are somewhere up there in my list of most wonderful shows. As has been reported, they stuck mostly to Sinister, playing some EP songs, some TWATTYBUS numbers, as well as my favorite Stevie-song, "Wrong Love/Girl" (whichever they're calling it now) the delightful "I Know Where the Summer Goes," which sounds much better live than on a live bootleg, and later, my personal favorite of the show, "Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner" (Reid, this is the one you're thinking of), which grooved and pulsed and ached and just oozed with emotion, seeping out from the words of longing and hardship. The crowd was awful, being pushy and screaming out song titles before the band even played. The band themselves were wonderful, Stuart M looking really pleased to be playing, Stevie leaping at least a bit, I think my favorite member of the group for stage presence. For the record, I'm 99% sure that Stu D sang the South Park number, which was a lovely treat. Stuart was wearing a light blue shirt I recall, and Chris had something greenish on. A couple other comments, Dog on Wheels was heavenly, Dylan in the Movies brought a tear to my eye, as did Century of Elvis, to my surprise. Isobel was totally unenthused except when she was singing "Is It Wicked..." which was actually quite nice, I thought. "Ease Your Feet," one of my faves, nice to hear live, not much better than it was recorded, though. "Loneliness," is just gorgeous, and I'm thankful I had a demo copy to listen to and prepare myself for the majestic live version they did of it. "Sleep the Clock" was ALMOST as good as the Session version, which is a very good thing. I was pretty dismayed by the lack of Tigermilk songs in the set, and indeed, it seemed the US tour as well, but happy, because I would get to see them another night, and they could potentially play all my other favorites, and I thought they were wonderful in DC. I did talk to a lot of people who had seen them last year in NY and thought they were much better before, so I guess that made the DC show a good one to begin with. Anyway, we talked a bit with friends from the DC area, considered crashing somewhere for the night, and I was interviewed by some nice girl with a Super 8 camera who asked such flustering questions as "How do you explain the B&S phenomenon?" After the show I finally met John FM, who is super swell, as far as I could tell in 10 minutes, possibly the nicest person I met on the whole trip. So here is where we decided, at somewhere between 1-2 AM, that we should drive back home instead of sleeping in DC on what would likely be a floor, perhaps a couch or bed. The ride back was much more eventful. The highlight was finding out that there were some permiscuous goings-on in the men's room at the rest area we stopped at in the wee hours of the morning. I'm quite pleased I had no need to drain the proverbial lizard at that time, and Megan was amused for half the ride back. I don't think I'll ever listen to "Looking for Love (in the Hall of Mirrors)" in quite the same light ever again. The drive back ended in a very sleepy me driving for 40 minutes with Megan babbling in a feeble attempt to keep me awake. Luckily Matt took over again afterwards and I collapsed. Then Megan and I huddled together for warmth in the sub-zero temperatures waiting on the train back to New York at what now must have been getting close to 7 AM. We made it to bed at 8 AM, whew. Saturday was spent recovering from friday, and buying the new Field Mice reissue (yay). As it was Halloween, we went to some interesting parties, witnessed some very drunk people, and generally had a lot of fun. To me, having never lived anywhere but West Vriginia and the middle-of-nowhere Ohio, it seemed like some odd scene out of Beyond the Valley of the Dolls, only without all the sex and Ashley St. Ives, oh and I suppose there weren't any drugs either. Well it seemed pretty exciting to me anyhow. Sunday afternoon we went to a Japanese supermarket in New Jersey, returning in time to make a mad scramble to get to the meet-up on time. We were only half an hour late in the end, but we almost missed the whole shebang. Apparently the park, as Megan, her roomate Julie and I had witnessed before getting to the supermarket, was closed, so no meetup could ensue. Some folks left, and the main gaggle was JUST about to leave when we got there just in time, hauling the lovely & huggable Jonny Kat and Billy along with us. The meetup dissolved into dinner at the posh Roy Rogers/Pizza Hut/Dunkin Donuts complex nearby. We got some grub, and then proceeded to the Supper Club, where a long line awaited us. It wasn't all that bad, though I did feel awful for all those without tickets, but we entered the ultra-swank Supper Club, and even got to check our coats! Wow! That's only the second time I've ever been to a real coat check. The club was gorgeous and purplish, and seemed quite large. Substitute your own words in for "club" and there's my smut content/ We met all sorts of Listfolk, including the feisty Rachee and smartly-dressed Holly, and then decided to try and get a spot up on the balcony, as there was no way we could get as close as we had been in DC. Up on the balcony we did manage to get a pretty good spot. The air of excitement was definately much nicer this time, and the lines much more organized. I noticed the particularly good pre-show music, and even caught "Walk Away Renee," by the Left Banke. Little did I know it was Andrew Symington himself spinning! Containe played, and I was a bit disappointed. I suppose I had expected too much due to the Versus connection, but they really were a suitable opening band, unlike Guv'ner. Later on things picked up, they did some numbers that sounded more like what I'd heard by them, and were generally okay. I guess a successful opener, since they didn't come close to outshining the main band. Whilst waiting for the band, I got introduced to more listees briefly this time, including Susannah, JJ (who talked with Stuart M as I only watched) and equally interesting and very easy to talk to non-listee Mick Cooke, who actually remembered me from chat! But then the band had to rush off, and so did we, awaiting eagerly the evening's performance from our balcony spot. Fellow listees and all-around lovelies Ben & Laurel joined us at our spot, and we listened as some sample spoken in accents too thick for my paltry ears to make out announced the upcoming performance in words I couldn't understand, but it made the waiting all the more exciting, nonetheless. The band finally moved on stage, and Stuart broke out into a beautiful version of "The State That I Am In," with the rest of the band chiming in in a staggered manner. I'm not quite as big a fan of it as everyone else, but they did it wonderfully, and it was so nice to hear something from Tigermilk, if only one song. They proceeded with a gorgeous version of my 2nd favorite EP track, "Belle and Sebastian," which sounded like the soundtrack to a childhood I never had, and an equally earth-shatteringly-good "Slow Graffiti," which sounds increasingly good each time I hear it, and now vies with "Loneliness," as the song I am most anticipating the release of. Those three songs were a moment of total perfection for me, I couldn't be happier, no matter what the rest of the set was like. They played a nice-sounding version of Chickfactor, but it's not one of my favorites. Then, they made up for it to me by playing yet another song off of Tigermilk, "She's Losing It," which I like quite a bit more than The State, and was noticeably pleased about. It sounded just like the original to me, contrary to what someone said, a nice, hazy, middle-of-summer song, despite the winter chill outside. "Lazy Line Painter Jane," was magnificent, and "The Boy with the Arab Strap," was triumphant. The New York crowd managed to beat out the previous record set in Athens, and people clapped the whole song! It was great, though I myself only had the endurance to go halfway through, yet I still enjoyed the unforced crowd participation. "Lord Anthony" was nice, though I think I'll need to hear it a few more times before I like it as much as some of you. It was certainly pleasing to hear a B&S song played live that I had never before, what with being spoilt by session and demo tapes from chums. Dirty Dream #2 was moving, just like the other night. Seeing Other People was even more moving to these ears. At some point in the set I nearly cried, I think it was there. The words just seemed so much more poignant when you could watch Stuart Murdoch signing them TO you, and the piano flourishes were the best part of the song. Then, there was a treat in store, as they did a shambolic and endearing version of the Byrds' "Turn, Turn, Turn," with a lovely trading-off 3rd verse between Stuart M and Stevie, and Stuart M's stage antics again appearing. I think he allows for one a show, judging on the two instances I saw. "The Boy Done Wrong Again," was, despite my usual dislike for the song, very very good. Maybe they just didn't record it well. They finished with "Simple Things," which, if you ask me, was a poor choice, being very short and not very climactic, but by then I could hardly complain, and I'm sure I will forever remember the show. Afterwards, Megan chatted with Andrew Symington and I blurted out a few words, right before the pushy management moved us in to the coat check line. We managed to meet our final listees of the evening, including Carrick Blair, whom I think looks more like Alan McGee than anyone else, and his friend whose name I've embarrassingly forgotten. Afterwards we had a bit of post-show with some friends/listees, and returned home quite late. We just couldn't stop talking, like at a slumber part/sleepover, but finally we did get to bed. Well, that's about it. I caught a flight today, and here I am, back in Ohio, typing up this incredibly long-winded story. Oh, I know it's late, and I've even left out bits (I swear!) and probably made a fool of myself 6 or 7 times over, but it's a tale worth telling I feel, so take it or leave it. I wonder how close I came to Reid.... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bilner at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 09:05:37 1998 From: bilner at xxx.com (bilner) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 01:05:37 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian live tapes? Message-ID: Has anyone made a high-quality DAT recording of any of the recent B&S shows? Thanks, Bill +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ardhui at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 09:57:17 1998 From: ardhui at xxx.com (Frederic £) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 01:57:17 PST Subject: Sinister: Supper Club 11/2/98 Message-ID: <19981103095717.15850.qmail@hotmail.com> >"poopy french song that Isobel sings" Surely "Poupee de cire, poupee de son", a song written by Serge Gainsbourg. The french singer woman France Gall sang it in 1965. Isobel have ever sing it in France last month. Here are the lyrics. I will try to translate if someone ask me ! http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/2172/poupee.html Fred, french ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Tue Nov 3 10:34:37 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:34:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Pieces of Eight. Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C27@COR-EXG1> Imagine my surprise when I pulled back the curtains this morning and there on the window ledge was the one and only...Chesney Hawkes. No it wasn't it was the Poetry Parrot dressed as Chesney Hawkes. Gary, I guess the fact that he bothered to fly all the way down here suggests that I haven't had the privilege yet. Let me think. Many thanks to Stephane du Pantaloon for sending me my Wendy Cope book, this is much appreciated. I don't think I shall be using anything from this though. I do have some fairly smutty poetry at home and if you kiddoes keep up this talk of fungal infections and beef curtains, you'll get an earful. An earful of what I don't know yet, but it won't be nice. >Hmmm, I'm not >sure who has or hasn't done one, so I'll hope for the best and pass it >onto..... the one the only, the irrepressible, the inflatable, Adrian Evans. Shit how did you find that out ? My best kept secret. Yes folks, I'm a blow up doll. For years now, it has been drummed into my head that I'm nothing to do with my parents, that I was left on the doorstep. But I was fucking gutted when I found out that I was left on the doorstep in a plain brown parcel. It was only very recently that I have reached my maximum inflatable state - comes to the best of us. Imagine my joy when Kate asked me to go on holiday with her this summer. I'd not had a holiday for over ten years, It had to be love. I was horrified to find out all she wanted me for was a lilo. I first found out I was a blow-up doll when I had been visiting the doctor over a period of weeks complaining of terrible flatulence. I was feeling quite low, and really was at a bit of a loss. Rather than give me a prescription for the local chemist he sent me to Halfords for a puncture repair kit....Boom Boom !! Adrian.x.x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Nov 3 11:56:34 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:56:34 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Philippe Polaroids Message-ID: Mes chers sinisterines : Je suis tombee amoreuse et c'est Philippe! Aren't all of you dying as me for a picture of him,Philippe l'unique avec une l et deux p's ? I would love one of you with your lab coat spilled in sulphuric acid...when every morning at 11 I go and have my cup of tea at the staff room, I glanced from one to the another Organics and wished you were here singing softly some Jacques Dutronc's tune, to turn back and whisper in your eye : I am your Francoise! Well , I have some sort of other list crush, and that worries me ,maybe I am bisexual, or it 's just how ravishing you are, Megan! So, I want pictures, NOW! Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Tue Nov 3 11:55:42 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 06:55:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: 100 percent pure high octane smut! Message-ID: <363EEF3E.4BC4@earthlink.net> damn! that was one long ass letter by mick. there should be some award given to him. or tell him to get the fuck off the list. either way, i don't care. i'm just kidding mick. so i'm reading someone's letter....i don't remember who....and they mention stuart m. on the trumpet. and i remembered. i forgot to tell you all about stuart m.'s trumpet spot at the athens show. it sounded like a moose blowing a fart through a pvc pipe with a baby nipple at the end stuck up to a mic'd megaphone whose batteries are running low. either he messed up and hit the wrong note, or the bitch just can't play. i'm gonna get a letter from the band asking me to stop listening to them, ain't i? i talked about isobel's spastic colon. i talked about stuart m's spastic trumpet, which wasn't too far removed from isobel's runs. i may as well go ahead and slag off the rest of the band. mick looks like a woman with a sex change. stevie is one shifty-eyed motherfucker. well...that's all i can think of. i wouldn't mind reading duke's book. but i'm afraid i'll be sitting there not knowing who the hell he's talking about. someone told me the traffic on this list had slowed down and that i should rejoin. well, someone, and you know who you are.....you lied to me. and hey, my friend robbie had just joined the list and he hasn't written in anything yet, and it would make me very proud of you all if at least ten people sent a letter to wilde77 at hotmail.com and just tell him to go and shove something straight up his ass. i don't care what noun you tell him to put up there, as long as he gets the idea. or better yet send something to the list so he can be humiliated in front of everyone. i'm going to sleep. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 13:36:32 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 05:36:32 PST Subject: Sinister: brad and robbie Message-ID: <19981103133633.5258.qmail@hotmail.com> brad, look bitch, it's not like we don't give each other enough hell here at home but now you got to start spreading this trash all over the list. the truth is people that i have been keeping up w/ this list about as long as brad--through brad--it's just i was the one without the computer, well guess what, daddy got excited watching the home shopping network one day so here i am. but don't worry about brad, we used to be lovers and i called it off due to the fact that he's the worst lay ever...it's a revenge thing. robbie ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Tue Nov 3 13:23:26 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 13:23:26 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Supernatural giver. References: <199811021851.SAA13118@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <363F03CE.1064@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> I myself witnessed a Godawful band > called Distant Shores open for Blur...it was supposed to be Pulp but I > guess Philly (the last stop on the Parklife tour) was not on their > itinerary. So we got this American band who pretended they were British > all glammed up in makeup and glittery sleeveless shirts. The singer would > regularly shake an open water bottle to simulate ejaculation...bleah. On > top of the glammy rock was some awful sequenced electronic parts... > Are you sure they were American? this wasn't Pulp? It sounds like a spot on dictionary definition of them to me;) I think the band that someone else mention in ther worst match-ups story (worst impression of the Jam ever, Kinky something) was probably Kinky Machine and yes they were bloody awful, they tried to invent Glam-mod about two years two early and did it very clumsily. The lead singer Louis later went on to become the Earl of Sussex or something and now fronts Rialto, whom everyone seems to love. Just goes to show dunnit... The best gig match-up I've ever witnessed was also a Mazzy Star one, living god Bert Jansch supported them at the Garage a couple of years ago- sublime. StayLuckyRoryxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From K970156 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 3 14:41:37 1998 From: K970156 at xxx.uk (Shelley Feltham) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:41:37 GMT +0100 Subject: Sinister: Supernatural giver. In-Reply-To: <363F03CE.1064@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Message-ID: <5F8A166734@neptune.kingston.ac.uk> dear people, I just tried to write a really nice introductary email to you all from myself as I am new on, I think that I accidently sent it just to Rory, sorry Rory. Anyway I am trying again and will repeat myself, please excuse me for that. Hello, my name is Shelley, I am 22 and studying (with increasing disillusionment) English Literature at Kingston Uni. The worst mismatch of band and support act I have seen lately was Earl Brutus supporting Kenicke, they were far too loud and horrendously tuneless for a pop night and I hated it. My Belle and Sebastian credentials are that I bought the two later albums and the singles after hearing "The State That I Am In" on Mark Radcliffe and being blown away. I cannot listen to any of their stuff without singing along at the top of my voice. I love the singer (Stuart?) because his voice is totally flat so I stand more chance of hitting the same note as him than I do when listening to someone competant like Paul Draper, or whoever. This is not an insult by the way. I went to the recent (ish) Shepherds Bush gig and stayed till the end despite missing my train, having to get a night bus, phoning for taxis that never came and having to do the last two miles on foot. It took me four hours to get home but it was still worth it. It was the only time I have ever seen them live and I loved them to bits. Anyway this is all old news for you lot, so i will sign off now and send you all love and best wishes, Shelley. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lolo at xxx.ie Tue Nov 3 15:53:43 1998 From: lolo at xxx.ie (Lolo Wood) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 15:53:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Songs for shaggin' Message-ID: <19981103155343.60647@redbrick.dcu.ie> Hello my little sinistereenies I know this music for shagging to thing is kind of old news, but the computer facilities at my college are so crap I only get to read the list every two days or so... Anyway, I'd heartily recommend Funhouse by the Stooges, especially if you can time it so that at least one partner climaxes during 'LA Blues'. If you're feeling a bit less energetic, the third Velvet Underground album is verrrrry nice. I have got up to naughty things to a B&S soundtrck - musically it's great, but the lyrical content can be more than a bit distracting. Oh yeah, 'Slush' by OP8 is pretty damn fine for this purpose too. There, that's all the smut you're getting out of me. By the way, can anyone point me towards any unmissable gigs or clubs happening in London this weekend? Byee, Lolo PS Cynthia - I was a pink bunny this Halloween too, although a somewhat smaller one at 5'2". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helenalauren at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 15:02:14 1998 From: helenalauren at xxx.com (Helena Lauren) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:02:14 -0700 Subject: Sinister: hallowe'en! and list crushes Message-ID: -On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 16:17:51 jessica wrote: >>ps. For some reason, I was asked if I was a spice girl. How demeaning...although I was thinking of being Easy Spice, with black leather and domintrix gear. Oh well, there's always next year. How I love Hallowe'en! I WAS A SPICE GIRL for Halloween, and oh, it was FUN! I was Sexy Spice aka Ginger and I made that wonderful small dress with the british flag on it. Alot of fun... What was everyone else for Halloween or have I missed all the exciting accounts of it already?? Helena *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuart.spaceman at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 15:18:49 1998 From: stuart.spaceman at xxx.com (Spaceman Stuart) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:18:49 -0700 Subject: Sinister: What gives Message-ID: Brad and Robbie? What have I missed. More to the point am I wicked not to care. I did not understand what thats all about yet it don't matter. I can see ducks in the pond and thats cool. I understand them better than bam-pots anyhow. Leith is heaven Stuart spaceman is confused!!!!! Get your FREE E-mail at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuart.spaceman at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 15:19:10 1998 From: stuart.spaceman at xxx.com (Spaceman Stuart) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 08:19:10 -0700 Subject: Sinister: What gives Message-ID: Brad and Robbie? What have I missed. More to the point am I wicked not to care. I did not understand what thats all about yet it don't matter. I can see ducks in the pond and thats cool. I understand them better than bam-pots anyhow. Leith is heaven Stuart spaceman is confused!!!!! Get your FREE E-mail at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 16:43:18 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:43:18 EST Subject: Sinister: I dream about horses Message-ID: <6d332eac.363f32a6@aol.com> Dear list, Although I only went to the 1st NY show, here is my conclusion for the both combined. Each one seems to have its highlights. I would have liked to hear Lonliness..., Paper Boat, Photo Jenny, Beautiful and a few others, but then I heard State I Am In, Lazy Line Painter Jane, She's Losing It, and Lord Anthony. And they were fantastic. Therefore, I can only say that I wish I'd been to both! Poo poo. Here's my first contribution to the smut of the list. I was listening to Judy and the Dream of Horses, and my mom told me dreams about horses are dreams about sex. Does everybody know this? Is it just me at my young innocent age who doesn't know about this? Now I understand the song in an entirely different way and Judy isn't the girl I thought she was! Oh, so that's what all those dreams about horses I've been having are about.. Here's one more that I forgot to mention about the Nov 1 NY show. During one song Stu M got really into his dancing, which is bopping his head back and forth like Paul McCartney, and when the song suddenly ended he was still bopping his head. He tried to stop gracefully but his head wouldn't stop bopping. He's a really cute boy. Stu D isn't as cute as in his photographs. Chris is cuter than in his photographs. Averaged out, they'll all pretty darn cute. Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From helenalauren at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 14:50:13 1998 From: helenalauren at xxx.com (Helena Lauren) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 07:50:13 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream #1 Message-ID: On Mon, 2 Nov 1998 17:14:19 TFertig3 wrote: >>Stu M. is the most beautiful creature I've ever seen. He's not human. I think he's an elf boy with rosy cheeks. His voice is the most heavenly, angelic voice I've ever heard. He was wearing a tight off white t-shirt and those were beautiful arms he's got! Oh Tami, I do agree! I don't think he is human, what a perfect angel! >>I didn't get to talk to B&S or give Stu M. the picture I drew of him because my sister had to go back to college. I don't mind though. It was a fantastic show. I had a dream about it, but I don't remember what happened. Maybe it was a dirty dream. Hmmm, I've never had a B&S dream, is that strange? It seems fairly common on this list... But if I were to have one i'm sure it would be a dirty one and have something to do with Stu M. (sigh) Helena *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From houckbe at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 17:06:24 1998 From: houckbe at xxx.edu (Ben Houck) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:06:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S at CMJ? Message-ID: <363F380F.823EE47D@math.earlham.edu> Hmm...Belle & Sebastian are in New York, CMJ is in New York...anyone have any info on an informal show perhaps under a different name. Thanks Ben +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Tue Nov 3 17:12:10 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:12:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: In the Irish Pub last night Message-ID: <2E847614173@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> Jesus I am so silly. I forgot to readdress my mail so no wonder it didn't come through .. So I am the 'other' Vanessa then .... hmmmmm Well I had a drink with my dad at the Irish yesterday and very much to my surprise (remember I am from Innsbruck) the guy behind the bar put on Stars of Track and Field so I started to sing along ...and he addressed me whether I knew thiusnstuff and so on ... I didn't talk much though cos my dad was there and I( don't like to talk music when he's around cos he thiunks I am a bit of a said trainspotter or something .... oh well this guy must think I am a bit of an arrogant cow or something hmmm .... but I'll go there again on another night (today or maybe tomorrow) Oh yes someone with my taste in my area this is sooo nice ... I asked this before but are there any Austrians on this list?? Preferably in the area of Innsbruck (the Tyrol love vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From weddoes at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 17:23:54 1998 From: weddoes at xxx.com (kristin betza) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 09:23:54 PST Subject: Sinister: The boy at the coat check at the supper club last night Message-ID: <19981103172354.9232.qmail@hotmail.com> ok now....there was some boy who was highly attractive standing by me on the line for the coat check--now i for some reason dont think he is a listee but hey you never know---ok he was wearing a navy blue sweater with some stripes and the sweater had a collar and jeans i think that had a little cuff on the bottom and black shoes--hehe i know this is sad that i remember all of this---and also he had dark brown hair and light eyes either green or blue---hmm if this sounds like any of you let me know or if you know who i am talking about---i think i am a little sick in the head for doing this but i was just wondering who he was i guess--ok that is it---hehe byebye kristin :) ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Tue Nov 3 17:42:57 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 17:42:57 -0000 Subject: Sinister: why don't people fall over more getting off buses? Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E364@NCMSERVER> This is a serious point, and one which always occurs to me when I stand up laden with bags and lurch inelegantly towards the "press" button before skewing off towards the door, or, more probably, an elderly blind lady or a large tattooed ex-con. I've only ever seen one person injure themselves badly on attempting to leave a bus, which is surprising given the number I've travelled on. I was on my way home to Pamber End just north of Basingstoke in lovely North Hampshire when an elderly gentleman stood up to get off the bus. He pressed the button in the usual fashion, and started moving down to the front of the bus. His confident swagger proved to be his undoing however, as I shall relate. The beginning The bus stop he chose to exit at is by far the most dangerously placed bus-stop in the known-world. Placed just after a nasty ninety-degree right hand corner, and on a straight strip of road of the sort of length which for some reason obliges bus drivers to accelerate as hard as possible from a standing start only to come to a sudden halt ten yards past the bus stop, it represents a death-trap to the unsound of foot. On this particular occasion, the driver (who we shall call Cuthbert because I don't think there's ever been a bus-driver called Cuthbert) recorded a personal best time for this eighty yard section of road and was forced to brake even more sharply than usual. The old man, who shall remain nameless to protect his dignity, was caught unawares, sauntering as he was along the aisle. Suddenly he found himself running instead of walking, and then, as he tried to latch onto some kind of rail to act as a brake, spun round and running backwards towards the front of the bus. The bus and the old man stopped at the same time - the bus ten yards past its stop, and the old man in a heap at the front of the bus. Cuthbert leaned out of his booth, his face showing a blank lack of concern for the casualty he had created. A middle-aged lady ran to the victim's aid, and after a moment the bus crawled forwards. The bus took a small diversion before its next scheduled stop, for fortune had been smiling on this poor elderly spinning gentleman, in the shape of the North Hants County Hospital. After a while a wheelchair was brought out and the man was taken into the big white building of health. Cuthbert resumed his mad bus driving behaviour, and I went home and wondered, as I still do, whether he was trying to get to the hospital anyway. Perhaps he was visiting someone, or perhaps he was on his way to receive treatment. It shows the cruelty in me that I even wonder if he might have been on his way to see an ear specialist about the recent deterioration in his sense of balance. The end For those of you still with me - thank you for listening. PS - would being 24 and buying a Bruce Hornsby album for £1.99 in order to recapture the days of youth and "The way it is" be considered a sad thing? I thought so. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From debbie.spiers at xxx.ca Tue Nov 3 15:59:12 1998 From: debbie.spiers at xxx.ca (debbie.spiers at xxx.ca) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:59:12 -0500 () Subject: Sinister: b&s dreams Message-ID: just thought i'd share my really short dream. the night before my dream i had gone out grocery shopping, and being a very cheap person i got excited that Golden Grahms were on sale. so i went to bed excited for my morning bowl. well in the dream i `woke' up an went down stairs to find Chris Geddes sitting at my kitchen table. i was so excited that he was there i was oblivious to the fact that he was eating my Grahms. he said he decided to come to Toronto even though the show was cancelled, and he was going to stay at my house, if i didn't mind. i was blown away. then i noticed the empty box of cereal. i almost got mad at him. instead i sat down and watched him eat and read the toronto star. thats it. cheers deb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 18:16:13 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:16:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: why don't people fall over more getting off buses? Message-ID: [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. Some ] [ characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] >lurch inelegantly towards the "press" button >He pressed the button in the usual fashion Has anyone else noticed that this button pressing does not occur in Glasgow? When I was younger, and travelled on buses more often (I think it was the number 52) I new these buttons existed (sometimes they were rails in the roof), but never saw anyone press them. I kinda assumed if you did the driver would lamp you for being a condascending little bastard - after all, he is a bus driver and knows he has to stop at bus stops. But when I went to uni I noticed all these people getting up and pressing the buttons to tell the driver they weren't just going for a wee walk to the front of the bus. And now, in England, there is a little light that comes on saying 'Bus Stopping'. I guess it is just the drivers being condascending back. I only mention it cause it pisses the fuck out of me, and I gather there a few bus experts on the list. Did you know that Gail Porter has a pierced nipple? Now theres a dirty bitch hiding under a pure exterior. Probably. And shes got one of those hate-it-cause-its-Edinburgh-but-its-sexy-anyway accents. Hmmmm. Unfortuately its all a sham. Despite looking like a foxy 19 year old, she is in fact 27!! Way too old for me. Cat Deeley on the other hand... A South Park cover? Thats gotta be worth hearing. Lyrics anyone? Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smfisher at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 18:34:54 1998 From: smfisher at xxx.edu (Stephanie) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:34:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: I dream about horses In-Reply-To: <6d332eac.363f32a6@aol.com> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 Tami wrote: > Stu D isn't as cute as in his photographs. Chris is cuter than in his > photographs. Averaged out, they'll all pretty darn cute. I don't know about Stuart D since I could barely see him at all from where I was standing in the 40 Watt. But Chris...WOW. He is gorgeous. I thought he was in photographs, too, but now after seeing him in person I am completely smitten. If I don't have a list crush (yet) am I allowed to have a band-member crush? Oh yes, I shall be dreaming about horses tonight! -Stephanie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mwsnyder at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 18:48:26 1998 From: mwsnyder at xxx.edu (matthew william snyder) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:48:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: B&S at CMJ? methinks not. Message-ID: <199811031848.NAA09517@red.seas.upenn.edu> | | Hmm...Belle & Sebastian are in New York, CMJ is in New York...anyone | have any info on an informal show perhaps under a different name. well, it would seem unlikely. stuart murdoch announced last night that he was flying back to scotland today along with other members of the band, and if they wouldn't play a show without isobel, i doubt they would play one without stu m. the highlight of the show last night was "i know where the summer goes," although i was disappointed by the fact that they skipped over "get me away from here..." which was on their set list. i guess they were in a hurry to get off the stage. the weird part was that the stage manager guy decided to leave the lights down low, as though they were going to do an encore, for a few minutes. it seemed to be some sort of cruel prank. did anyone understand what the sound man said through the P.A. near the end of the set? something about "bitch bitch bitch"? it seemed very naughty, whatever it was. does anyone even know what i am talking about? -matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 19:01:01 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 11:01:01 -0800 Subject: Sinister: international pop overthrow Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032FAA82@amerwksnt01.xil.com> well smack my bottom and call me delilah! guess who got her Study at Stow with Belle and Sebastian t-shirt today? that's right sugar, you heard me!!! after a month of anxiously waiting... In a fit of uncontrollable glee I ripped open the packaging and giggling like a ... giggly little girly-thing, pulled it on right away!!! From the blank stares of co-workers, whose comments ranged from "who's that supposed to be?" to "oh, blue isn't really your color, is it?" it's been a bit difficult to gauge the hipster value, but i have faith that it won't be long... Anyway, unfortunately, t-shirts don't really fall under my boss's opinion of "professional business attire" so I had to take it off right away... and managed to get make-up all over the collar...:-( but i am sooo happy, thanks so much David and Katrina and whoever else is responsible. (And the small really *is* small, it's not Gap-sized "small", i.e. the size for a pro wrestler.) Who needs a grubby show, when you can have a tshirt??... *sigh*, not kidding anyone, am i. << got behind this guy in a pea coat for awhile and then he turned around and started walking my direction and sweet jesus it was Henry Thomas! It turns out he's a big Belle and Sebastian fan (he's even onthis list) >> Wow I wonder how many other celebrities are on this list. Henry was a crush for me too, and Nicholas from "Eight is Enough". BTW Big Stu, how many people can we vote as our list crush?? I'm finding it hard to choose just one out of 800+ people. of course, bribes could make the decision a bit easier.....;-) tata, tara the vampire slayer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LeslieH at xxx.COM Tue Nov 3 17:11:05 1998 From: LeslieH at xxx.COM (Lesley Higgins) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 12:11:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S at CMJ? Message-ID: <01F2E5A1F9BBD01186420000C0DBCFDB2115C1@NTMIS> Stuart said he was leaving NY today, but that other people were going to stay a few days. Think they would take it easy after the tour though. Lesley ---------- From: Ben Houck[SMTP:houckbe at xxx.edu] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 12:06 PM To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: B&S at CMJ? Hmm...Belle & Sebastian are in New York, CMJ is in New York...anyone have any info on an informal show perhaps under a different name. Thanks Ben +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Nov 3 18:34:33 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:34:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pants :) References: Message-ID: <363F4CB9.C6C3AA4A@jeepster.co.uk> MWaggner at aol.com wrote: > > OK, one more thing before I can fall asleep.... > > Stuart was wearing SILVER PANTS!!! Did he go shopping on Canal Street?? oh god, are they back? stuart surprised us early last year when he walked into the record shop david + i were working in with them on. i almost told him he wasn't allowed to come back to the flat unless he changed ... :) they get mentioned in this months Select feature too. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Nov 3 17:31:05 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:31:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S at CMJ? References: <363F380F.823EE47D@math.earlham.edu> Message-ID: <363F3DD9.5A4E5EDC@jeepster.co.uk> hi all, Ben Houck wrote: > > Hmm...Belle & Sebastian are in New York, CMJ is in New York...anyone > have any info on an informal show perhaps under a different name. > > Thanks > Ben unfortunately, no as Stuart's flying back tonight to cut the forthcoming ep, so ... sorry! cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar460 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 19:12:58 1998 From: ar460 at xxx.edu (Audrey Roofeh) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:12:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: re: "bitch bitch bitch" In-Reply-To: <199811031848.NAA09517@red.seas.upenn.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, matthew william snyder wrote: > did anyone understand what the sound man said through the P.A. near the > end of the set? something about "bitch bitch bitch"? it seemed very > naughty, whatever it was. does anyone even know what i am talking about? The whole "bitch" action was someone doing a quiet rendition of cartman's song "Kyle's Mom's A Bitch" There were many South Park allusions last night. I too was very disspaointed that they didn't perform "get me away..." I think the crowd actually had potential to break into the usual supper club swing dancing shtick, but alas, they did not. another question about last night's show- who was the couple that sat on the balcony, stage right with the gigantic bodyguard a la secret service? audrey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar460 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 19:34:41 1998 From: ar460 at xxx.edu (Audrey Roofeh) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:34:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: B&S on radio thursday Message-ID: I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but I think it's only been confirmed recently.... Thursday morning from 10:00-12:00p.m. on WBAR radio in Manhattan, Chris Geddes will be the special guest. Tune in at 87.9 fm (well, if you live in the quad, that is) and 1680 am in the surrounding area. audrey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dagrayson at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 19:40:16 1998 From: dagrayson at xxx.edu (~Dana~) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 14:40:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Nov 2nd Show Message-ID: Well, I am more enthralled than I thought possible now that I have seen them play live. Their voices are so exquisite, they're even prettier than when recorded. They didn't play much from Sinister, mostly TBWTAS and some stuff I didnt know (no, I am not lucky enough to have a copy of tigermilk). the band was thanking people towards the end ofthe show, and some kid shouted 'what about all the kids i drove to philly' and the band froze. i felt awful for them. i dont think the kid realized that it was such an obnoxious thing to say (sorry if someone on the list is that kid). they were really sweet and apologetic about the whole thing. and isobel was like 'i was sick, and i shouldnt sing this next song, but i will cause im naughty' (she's so damn cute with that little voice of hers) and she sang a song in french-pardon my ignorance for not knowing the title of the song- and then it was over. sigh... anyhow, even the opening bands were good. eugene kelly opened, and people were shouting 'who are you?' at him, and finally his bassist was like 'eugene used to be in the vasolines.' anyway, i think everyone felt kind of bad when they realized that they hadn't recognized the guy who wrote so many important songs for the early 'alternative' music scene. eugene totally knew they felt dumb though- he was like 'here's this song i wrote' and he played jesus dont want me for a sunbeam.' some girl next to me was like 'hey, why is he covering nirvana?' it was kinda funny. then guv'ner played, and i actually really liked them as well. they kept talking about it being their last show- iwasnt sure whether it was some inside-indie-rock joke or they were really breaking up. they played a good set though, people got pretty into it. so overall i had a great night.... i hope they come back soon : ) dana +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fruite at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 19:47:18 1998 From: fruite at xxx.com (Jamie McCordale) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 11:47:18 PST Subject: Sinister: when they're in love... say it quick. Message-ID: <19981103194719.2558.qmail@hotmail.com> Tuesday morning extra poem: When the sun went down you smiled and the stars came out as the green grass chirped and the insects buzzed I smiled back while my heart swelled and your eyes twinkled we both laughed and then you sighed as the moon moved over and the air grew crisp our teeth chattered so we started to run and a snowflake fell quickly I grabbed your hand and we stopped so you could take out your yo-yo then I caught your eye before I gamely did some cartwheels in the snow and when one of your dimples came into view I looked over and suddenly saw a grin and your smiling drew me in I reached over and I gave you a kiss and that was it for me. Honest. Sigh. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From LeslieH at xxx.COM Tue Nov 3 19:30:26 1998 From: LeslieH at xxx.COM (Lesley Higgins) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:30:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: pants :) Message-ID: <01F2E5A1F9BBD01186420000C0DBCFDB2115C5@NTMIS> At least he didn't wear them Sunday night when they turned on the disco ball during Spaceboy Dream, it would have blinded the lot of us ;-) Lesley ---------- From: Katrina House[SMTP:a-and-r at xxx.uk] Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 1998 1:35 PM To: MWaggner at aol.com Cc: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Re: Sinister: pants :) MWaggner at aol.com wrote: > > OK, one more thing before I can fall asleep.... > > Stuart was wearing SILVER PANTS!!! Did he go shopping on Canal Street?? oh god, are they back? stuart surprised us early last year when he walked into the record shop david + i were working in with them on. i almost told him he wasn't allowed to come back to the flat unless he changed ... :) they get mentioned in this months Select feature too. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Tue Nov 3 20:02:56 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:02:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: screeeeeeeeee Message-ID: <000401be0764$f4d0c800$03000004@n2f9x2> dear listo. i return from london this evening, having been gone only since friday, to find that the cat (jasper) has been missing me, apparently. it appears that this is actually true, as he's perked up since i returned, and is back to his usual self. i am touched by this display of feline affection, but it doesn't divert from the fact that jasper has fleas. when in london i watched the exorcist, i can't see why it was banned, i haven't had ANY nightmares, and i feel as if i've been shortchanged. i hoped to have at least some psychological trauma for my £4.50. in fact i had to try not to laugh during it. perhaps i AM disturbed. anyway, must go, have to be up at 6am for work. alix xxx 'kill the brain; kill the ghoul' - night of the living dead +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 19:12:41 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azrael) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 14:12:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I dream about horses In-Reply-To: References: <6d332eac.363f32a6@aol.com> Message-ID: At 13:34 -0500 03/11/98, Stephanie wrote: [On Tue, 3 Nov 1998 Tami wrote: [ [> Stu D isn't as cute as in his photographs. Chris is cuter than in his [> photographs. Averaged out, they'll all pretty darn cute. [ [I don't know about Stuart D since I could barely see him at all from where [I was standing in the 40 Watt. But Chris...WOW. He is gorgeous. I thought [he was in photographs, too, but now after seeing him in person I am [completely smitten. If I don't have a list crush (yet) am I allowed to [have a band-member crush? [ [Oh yes, I shall be dreaming about horses tonight! [-Stephanie [ i don't know about a band member crush, but you can join the Wee Chris fanclub that i plan on starting. :) -kerry "Death has come in the pantry door: stands watching them, iron and patient, with a look that says _try to tickle me_." --Thomas Pynchon, _Gravity's Rainbow_ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 20:17:56 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azrael) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:17:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S on radio thursday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 14:34 -0500 03/11/98, Audrey Roofeh wrote: [I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but I think it's only [been confirmed recently.... [ [Thursday morning from 10:00-12:00p.m. on WBAR radio in Manhattan, Chris [Geddes will be the special guest. [ [Tune in at 87.9 fm (well, if you live in the quad, that is) and 1680 am in [the surrounding area. [ [audrey [ would some kind manhattanite be so kind as to tape this for me? i'll send you a blank tape and stuff for a copy or whatever. it's just that, well, i can't exactly run a Wee Chris Geddes fanclub without something like this. :) -kerry "need hug. help." - Waahhh!" -Irvine Welsh, "the acid house" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 20:24:08 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azrael) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:24:08 -0500 Subject: Sinister: list crushes Message-ID: well, i guess since people are doing list crushes i'd better advertise (and scour the sinister page for my own crush). sooo, if you think you may have a crush on me but want to see a picture go here: http://hamp.hampshire.edu/~kwl96/crap.html. there's pictures of me and stuff there. :) -kerry "need hug. help." - Waahhh!" -Irvine Welsh, "the acid house" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From smfisher at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 20:37:34 1998 From: smfisher at xxx.edu (Stephanie) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:37:34 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: B&S on radio thursday In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 3 Nov 1998, Audrey Roofeh wrote: > I don't know if this has already been mentioned, but I think it's only > been confirmed recently.... > > Thursday morning from 10:00-12:00p.m. on WBAR radio in Manhattan, Chris > Geddes will be the special guest. > > Tune in at 87.9 fm (well, if you live in the quad, that is) and 1680 am in > the surrounding area. I also want to know if anyone could tape this for me...?? I'd be willing to send a tape and/or money for postage or whatever you'd like... Cheerio, Stephanie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jefforama at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 21:22:08 1998 From: Jefforama at xxx.com (Jefforama at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:22:08 EST Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <6538ecf9.363f7400@aol.com> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eyh96 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 21:36:26 1998 From: eyh96 at xxx.edu (remaniac) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 16:36:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: new york city, bliss Message-ID: sigh so i am back from nyc, and have been wandering about aimlessly, nibbling on russian tea cakes and humming dirty dream no 2... i did dream about the band all night. particularly something about sarah and me making a book(?) supper club nyc gigs: both were virtually flawless, though each had its own flavour. nov 1 seemed more intimate and otherworldly to me; am i delusional, or could really one feel the love and support in the club?! the audience was so polite and some of us forgot how to dance (beyond the "head nod") because we were completely enraptured! nov 2, on the other hand, had a different energy--people yelling between songs and such, though the band seemed in excellent spirits, smiley, especially isobel. hopefully they weren't just glad the tour is over. and perhaps the audience was restless from the excruciating guv'ner set?! (goon --hope you don't mind my quoting you-- had it right when he said something to the effect of, "i'm willing to indulge in a nostalgic moment, but this is too much!") anyway, if it's even possible, this opening fiasco made b+s seem all the more heavenly. i think it's kind of endearing when the band disappears to a corner of the stage, leaving perhaps just stevie visible up front (doing _his_ head nod)... but some of the best moments were when one could see all of them up there playing together; i wanted to give them a big hug. after the shuffling around between songs, everything just pulls together beautifully... later i was suddenly too shy to speak to stuart m (and stood by as garth did), though we did say goodbye as stuart and his snazzy pants went back upstairs. wee chris and i did speak again :) although i'm so glad they didn't repeat the nov 1 setlist on nov 2 as stuart m had humorously suggested they would, the first night's was my favorite. and one had to love the byrds cover, with wee chris joining stuart m to sing (and ducking back when it was over)... it was one of the most wonderful, endearing things i've ever heard/seen. actually, now that i think about it, nov 2 was pretty amazing-- "i know where the summer goes" being a highlight... but i'll spare you my deliberations. after weeks of travelling to and from, and dreaming about, new cities and new shows, it's time to get back to schoolwork. helloes to kat (many thanks) and kristen (lovely to see you and meet hans)! btw, was it a listee who gave isobel a monkey ("hamish") in chicago? --emily scratch my name on your arm with a fountain pen (this means you really love me) ... rusholme ruffians +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 3 22:12:55 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:12:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: pre-B&S/the formation of the band Message-ID: <363F7FE7.1641C755@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello, I was feeling bored today in class, and I was breezing through the archives, and I read some interesting stuff. It was all scattered about various posts, though, and I became more and more curious about the mysterious past of B&S before they were B&S. So I thought, for the benefit of the rest of you, I'd share the fruits of my archives search in an organized manner. If you know anything that I haven't mentioned, please e-mail it to me and I'll add it in a revised edition, after a few days. Also, all of this is just what I read, so a good deal of it may be false. If you know it to be, please let me know that too. Honey said he'd like to put it on the website as well. Well, probably. Firstly by now we've probably all heard that Stuart Murdoch wrote rather a lot of songs on his own. Apparently he searched to be in a band for a while. He made some cassette tapes, at least two, and gave them to various people. I heard from a friend that he visited America for a time, and brought some demos with him. Supposedly he "jammed" with my friend's friends in Portland, but we'll never know the truth to that. Suffice it to say he wrote some of his own songs, that's all that's important. One of the demos, supposedly the first, was released in '94 and entitled Le Pastie de la Bourgeosie, and apparently featured the song of the same name. Another was perhaps entitled Lisa Helps the Blind. No idea on song titles, number of songs, etc. Stuart recorded the vaguely known Stow demos ("Pocketbook Angel," "London Has Let Me Down Again," "Hurley's Having Dreams,") at Stow College, alone (unless you count the drum machine). Stuarts Murdoch and David met through a government program and collaborated as Rhode Island, sending Jeepster a demo with Dog on Wheels, the State That I Am in, Belle and Sebastian, and My Wandering Days Are Over. They did some bedroom gigs, as well as Glasgow radio session. No word on the songs, though. Rhode Island recorded the Dog on Wheels EP with Mick Cooke and various studio musicians, I guess for release on Jeepster? Not sure about that. For reasons unknown to me, they formed the band from people met at the Grosvenor (sp?) Cafe in Glasgow. I don't know if these were random or auditions, but I suppose auditions. Richard Colburn was living in a flat with Stuart David (I think). This was in January of 1996. Not sure as to why "Modern Rock Song," only mentions certain members of the band. Perhaps they had an early incarnation as the Stuarts + Richard and...did they mention Stevie in Modern Rock Song? My memory's gone fuzzy and I'm too lazy to go listen to my session. They played an early gig in a bedroom in Glasgow, probably some days after forming, on the 13th of January. The lineup consisted only of Stuart M, Richard, and possibly Isobel. Here's what they played: Mary Jo Expectations My Wandering Days Are Over You're Just A Baby Your Idea of Fun* I Don't Love Anyone The State I Am In Then they recorded Tigermilk at Stow, added Sarah somewhere after that, then signed to Jeepster in August 1st '96. Mick played with them on various recordings, but didn't become an official member of the band until...I think just before 3...6...9 I think that should bring things to a point where most of you know everything. Anyway, send me suggestions... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Tue Nov 3 23:43:22 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 23:43:22 GMT Subject: Sinister: do the torontella Message-ID: <363f8b04.15401716@post.demon.co.uk> Tired, so very tired, Is this what jetlag feels like? I don't like it, but I'm still looking forward to the next lot. Well, that's a tour finished. I wonder what we'll talk about now. Of course, Toronto was cancelled. Do I look worried? Do I look upset? Mind you, I would recommend everyone boycotts British Airways for ever and ever. The world's shittest airline, and you can quote me on that. Anyway, I've just had a lovely week in Canada. I didn't see a single mountie, that was a disappointment. However, there were compensations. For a start, I met Rod Begbie at Heathrow. What a remarkable coincidence. I'd just finished a conversation with one of the Stepford Wives who is now working for BA and I was not a happy camper. I restrained himself from kissing Rod, but I was glad is he to see a familiar face in my hour of need. Rod was off to Boston, he's waited a long time for his visa. In the end it turned up mysteriously in a sports shop in Lanarkshire. It's a funny old world, as Jimmy Greaves would say. Because BA fucked up, they put me in first class, the snivelling little shits. It was great. You'll be amazed how quickly the journey flies when you have an adjustable seat to play with. Any visitors to Toronto are directed to the CN Tower, it really is a phenomenal erection. And they play really bad AOR you secretly love when you sit in the cafe. I'd give you ink polaroids, but the Vice Squad don't look kindly on that sort of thing. Thankfully, none of them involve shagging to the Stooges. I mean, c'mon - that's just sick, isn't it? I don't know when John Waters' "Pecker" is out in the UK, but I know it's out in across the pond, and it rules. Any film featuring a song called "Don't drop the soap for anyone but me" is OK in my book. I'm strangely uninspired. It must be love... Love tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Wed Nov 4 02:58:20 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 18:58:20 -0800 Subject: Sinister: as per scaredy-cat stalkers.... Message-ID: <001001be079e$fbff6ac0$1e11020a@rebelstrange> How ironic! hello all. this is my intro to the luverly list here. i hope you'll all be kind. B&S fans are the greatest audiences in the world! YEEE_HA!!! ok. so i'm new to the list but have been into the group for a while now, along with one of my bestest friends in the whole universe who has introduced me to the sinister list. and this is my story. you may want to pull up a chair. i promise it will be (mostly) belle and sebastian related...with a load of teeny-bopper, scaredy-cat stalking and schoolgirl giggling interspersed. so, i live WAY out in "BFE" missouri, no wheres ville. where b/s would, i'm sure, never venture in a million lifetimes, at least not until they're opening for Hanson, hehe. My friend is luckier, being close to the east coast. she invited me to join her on a mad pilgrimage to DC on OcT 30, to see our newlly found musical heroes. after much soulsearching, i agreed and took the plunge. i arrived in roanoke on thursday afternoon. we were to take a bus to DC that evening at 9 pm. unfortunately, we werent' even sure we could get on the bus in time. and More unfortunately, i didnt' even have a ticket to the show. miraculously we caught the bus within the last minute and arrived in DC at 3"30 am, two disheveled girls in tattered flare jeans and fuzzy sweaters, with no map and no car, and a whole day to spend until the show started. we ended up at the lincoln memorial around 5 am or so, it was totally deserted. so we had a little party, reading aloud from jeannette winterson books and poetry we wrote, and singing "la Pastie" and consecrating a Tiger's Milk energy bar in a sacred communion. the sun rose and we took off across the reflecting pool, with Mrs. Duck's happy blessing. (dont' ask). We wandered around town until our feet seemed to have been crushed with hammers. it was only 2 pm. in frustration, and without any convenient ideas to amuse ourselves, we took the subway to the street where the Black Cat was located. just to hang around and perhaps ask some worker or person if there were tickets we couild get hold of. that was all. we arrived on the street and a tour bus was parked there. jess started shrieking under her breath, "oh mygod, ohmygod, it's them!" about a million times. there was Stu M. and lovely Isobel, on the sidewalk yards in front of us. we panicked and starting giggling like morons and didn't knwo what to do. isobel looked even cuter in person. we sat down on the pavement just away from the bus cos we were too embarrassed to go talk to them, so we had to make a plan. i was afraid they saw us laughing and thought we were little junior high skool idiots who were stalking them. oh and i forgot to mention i was wearing a necklace that said "I *heart* Isobel* and her necklace said "I *heart* stu M." which was rather embarrassing. Shortly, sarah and chris and stuart d were out, and then sarah was by herself. i suggested we should go talk to her cos she looked nice, and we had read her interview in chickfactor and she seemed cool. so we walked up and asked if we could take pictures with her. silly sarah! "well, i dont' know if the other members are about.." she says, modestly, as if she were chopped liver! We still wanted to talk to her, so she said ok, and she took pictures of us too, and chris and stu D. as well. we asked her if she knew if there were any tickets left , and she asked if we were ok. we said, no...and she said, "well, i can just put you on the List". and a guy came out with a little notebook and they wrote our names down, along with Gail chickfactor, on the guest list. we died promptly and thanked her ever so much. we saw them off to go sightseeing, and went to eat lunch. we died a few more times, panicked some, and returned an hour later to resume our lonely post on the pavement. It started to get cold and a guy who we thought was Neil came out and talked to us. we talked about the tour, and he was ever so nice and offered us smokes even though neither of us smoked, i thought that was pretty kind of him. after a while he said it was getting chilly and if we wanted we could probably wait inside, because we reallly didn't have anyplace to go until then. we said "Really??" and followed him in. i think we died about a million times in that moment. inside we got to sit at the back of the club and watch them soundcheck, and chris and stuart D. and stevie and all them were playing pool and we chatted more with sarah, who had bought some whilte house paper dolls and postcards on her trip. Then Jess froze in her seat, as Stuart M. was clearly coming up the way, he was wearing a strange dark green mailman's type jacket with a US flag on the breast, and his hair was like a little kids', and he talked to the other guy for a minute before he turned to us and asked both our names and shook our hands. "hello, i'm Stuart," he says (no, Really!!??) and he was so polite and friendly. We gave him a tiger's milk bar and took pictures and he has such the cutest smile in the world. We thought he would not talk to us again, but later he returned shining a big red apple in his hand, almost shyly, and said something to the effect of "i've been shining this apple, and it looks so delicious, but i changed my mind, do you want it?" We looked at each other in disbelief and accepted the shiny apple, and i think stuart M. is probably the nicest guy in the world just for that. we promptly shared the apple. (He also looks so adorable when he takes a shot with a pool cue, and sticks his tongue out the corner like a little boy!) The band members kept coming up to us and apologizing for how bored we must be. Silly things!! and they were dead serious!!! the only thing left for me that evening, was to see isobel. she had been retiring most of the time, but later she came into the club and was walking around. she looked so adorable and sweet, and jumped down off a bench like a little pixy, and i was so embarrassed because she kept looking over in our direction. despite my friend's begging, i was unable to retain my composure to actually walk up and speak to her. i'm ashamed to say so, but i was shaking like a leaf and so terrified that she would see my necklace and think me creepy..............(*sniff*) in a ny case, we got to watch them rehearse before the show, and actually it was more exciting i believe than the actual show, because they played i don't love anyone, and stars of track and field, and we were the only people in the audience, really. it was so beautiful we were overcome by it, and isobels' cello was gorgeous, and stu did sing like an angel, and he even played REM's 'Don't Go Back to Rockville" at one point which amused me completely. and yes, his arms are beautiful, i thought during the show, and i believe stu M. is the cutest boy i have ever seen, and this is more amazing considering that i have not used the word "cute" and "boy" in teh same breath for at least 3 years now. So i have a big non-sexual crush on Stu, and a big high school crush on isobel,. When she came out in that tiger bonnet and tight little black outfit, i thought my heart would explode, i think if she were any more adorable and sexy she would die of terminal cuteness, and i can't really speak of it now because it's just difficult for me.....Sarah smiled at us during the show, and once while i was taking one of my billion pics of isobel, stuart M. looked at me for a very long time and smiled, as if he knew.......They didnt' play all our faves. like Pastie, pHoto Jenny, Judy, Belle and Sebastian, but the best ones were Mayfly, Dylan in the Movies, Stars of track and Field, sleep the Clock Around, and dog on Wheels. Of course the highlight of my evening was that Isobel played "Wicked", so i was satisfied as can be expected. After the end, I managed to snag Isobel's set list, because the guy was the same one who had let us in, and he was looking after us i imagine. (does anyone know if they all write out their own set lists??) We had to leave them in the evening, we got our bags from down the bar, we had to catch a bus......*sniffle* It was so sad to leave without saying hi to isobel, or thanking them all for being so sweet, but the crowd was big, and we had to get home. I can't get into the full account, but it was the most amazing trip i have ever experienced, and besides beign the most brilliant musicians, Belle and Sebastian are among the kindest people you could meet, not so mysterious after all.. they didnt' have to even speak to us, but they totally made our year and gave us an incredibly beautiful time. Words cannot express. soon enough we will have to find some feeble way of making it up to them. until then, i shall keep a photo of isobel at my side and hope that one day soon, she'll know...... I hope this wasn't too much, and it didnt' put you to sleep. i'm glad to be on the list. sign me, iheartisobel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 01:46:32 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 19:46:32 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Belle and Seb-as-ti-an, at the Black Cat club In-Reply-To: <363D28DA.C258AE49@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: On Sun, 1 Nov 1998, Reid Dossinger wrote: > it was mid-tempo, kind of dark and very Smiths-y. Is this "Rhoda"? Or > "Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner"? The only info we got from the > band was that it had never been released. If you can remember lines like "run through the fields" repeated a few times, then it was "Loneliness of a Middle Distance Runner". If it started very quietly with solo piano and lyrics like "let me please interpret history in every line and scar of some imaginary friend..." then it was "Slow Graffiti". Otherwise I don't know. > By the way, > maybe it was just the two shows I went to, but by the end of each, > almost every song title had been yelled out. Christian and I were > waiting for someone to be snobby enough to yell out "Hurley's Having > Dreams" or "London Has Let Me Down Again." In Chicago, someone yelled for "Pocketbook Angel". Stuart said something like "oh, we have a real obscurist -- scary". "Dog on Wheels" came off far better live than on the EP I think. A drummer who can keep time makes all the difference I guess. --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 01:54:04 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 20:54:04 EST Subject: Sinister: pants :) Message-ID: <6e0eef91.363fb3bc@aol.com> I had always figured him for a corduroy-ish boy, so the silver pants were .... amusing:) Especially because the night before he had on dark conservative pants (ok, trousers :) and a white t-shirt, and looked like a young priest on his day off, doing the chores around the vicarage. Good to know, I guess, that he didn't get corrupted on a shopping spree in downtown Manhattan. Where the Arab straps are sold... --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From schrasj at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 02:42:38 1998 From: schrasj at xxx.com (gram LeBron) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:42:38 PST Subject: Sinister: my B&S athens experience Message-ID: <19981104024239.2352.qmail@hotmail.com> here's what happened to me. I'm still reeling. having been there in july for the music extravaganza it was nice to see so many familiar and friendly faces. the show was sold out and you could feel it in the 40 watt. >The sound was PERFECT. yes, it was. that was B&S's doing. they brought a monitor man, jake, and a front of house guy too, a frenchman who's name eludes me. they requested the 40 watt rent PA reinforcements and a piano. They definitely knew what they were doing. oh, and jake explained the reason the sound checks take so long is partly due to shoddy american power, damn 110. luckily they brought their own transformers. did you notice how they all sang a few inches away from the mic, hence no muffling or weird pops? this only works on a bad ass PA with a great sound man, but thats why their voices were so clear and intelligible. >Lazy Line Painter Jane was more like the session version, but it was >faster (that's right: it was slower yet faster. It makes sense if you >heard it). Unfortunately, they didn't do that little rave-up at the >end like they did on the session version. I know exactly what you mean. I was kind of hoping for that bit, but by the end of the show, it didn't matter at all. I was smiling for days. I do wish the rest of the audience would have moved a bit more, I sure was. >some guy tried to say something in a horrendous fake >Scottish accent, and Stuart put him in his place: "Is that a bad joke or >just a bad Scots accent?" hi, my name is "some guy". what I said was, "play slow graffiti!" but I was drunk, so it came out terribly. stuart said "are you scot?" I said, no, I'm drunk!" "good, cuz that was pretty bad" i did make an arse of myself, but I was giddy as hell. I talked to stuart later and we had a laugh about it. he's heard worse accents. richard later said I looked a wee bit scottish and if I didn't talk too much I might be able to get by. after the show, we went backstage to say hello, since the masters of the hemisphere are friends of mine. someone mentioned that michael stipe had wanted to come but he was out of town. stu M said they'd learned don't go back to rockville in the park that day, but didn't have time to get it together for the show. that would've been so perfect. we stayed at the 40 watt for a good while, so we missed out on the engine room. when we finally left the club we ended up at todd's house I believe, he had a keg. there were several of us from texas, michigan, atlanta, etc and stevie, chris, richard, mick, stevie dreads, neil and jake, as far as I can remember. I was getting late. what a great time. we finally got a minibus for all of us and we got home around sixish, I think. the next day, everyone was looking haggard but still glowing from the show. B&S decided to stay in Athens, the weather was beautiful and it's so mellow there. we kept running into various members and a bunch of us finally settled at a table outside at the lunch paper for happy hour and beyond. we were there for several hours, I was glad to see I could hold my own with them as far as drinking goes. the table was absolutely full with empty bottles. then we went back to the tourbus and made fun of american tv, watched the pilot episode southpark with jesus vs. santa that jeff from the masters had brought, and I introduced some of them to blunts. we talked about american accents and we did southpark imitations, oh yeah, and drank more. When Neil heard that we didn't have a place to stay that night, he offered us the bus driver's hotel room since they had it for another night. they dropped us at the travelodge and gave us the key, we said our goodbyes and watched them head off for DC. it all still seems kind of unreal, they really are a geniunely nice bunch of people. but I'm babbling now. anyway, here's some pictures of the after party. sorry I didn't get to meet more of you, it was just so crowded. http://www.navitus.com/schrasj/csp.nsf/pages/belle >Seriously, this awkward display of affection possibly >cost me the opportunity to deliver an awkward "how much your music means >to me" speech. Which would have been one for the record books after >that show. maybe I'm being harsh, but can you imagine how many "how much your music means to me" speeches, they've heard by now? the whole time I was talking to them, their music, or even music in general, hardly came up. they are just regular people and they feel as awkward as you do when you start gushing all over them. OK, I can't type anymore. cheers, gram ClubSafeParking, making Houston proud. http://www.navitus.com/csp ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 02:45:08 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 18:45:08 PST Subject: Sinister: soliders Message-ID: <19981104024508.12803.qmail@hotmail.com> > >>Brad and Robbie? What have I missed. More to the point am I wicked not >to care. I did not understand what thats all about yet it don't matter. >I can see ducks in the pond and thats cool. I understand them better >than bam-pots anyhow. Leith is heaven >> >>Stuart spaceman is confused!!!!! >> >> >> spaceman, > brad and i are only kidding, we've been friends for a while. >he brought belle and the boy to me about a year and a few months >ago, but we've been friends a lot longer. he's kinda like my >own personal music magazine that keeps me up to date on everything >since i don't have time because i have a life. > >as for the rest of you sinister "soliders" (that should only be funny >if you work in a corporate music store like me, blockbuster..."no >limits for life, uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh!") i didn't get to tell you >about my experience at the athens show.....and i'm not--except >people WERE dancing when i looked back during the song belle and >sebastian...well not dancing-dancing, i mean i didn't look over my >shoulder and see the bus stop going on but you could tell everyone >was digging it. > >anyway, peace out soliders...uuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! > > robbie >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 02:39:30 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 21:39:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Import ordering, lack of sleep, etc. Message-ID: <363FBE62.243A50DB@bigfoot.com> Dammit! Once again, I woke up this morning earlier than I would have liked and was kept from going back to sleep by my constant Belle and Sebastian thoughts. It's a nice way to wake up, but the problem is that "bleary and daydreaming" isn't in my job description. I almost hope the new EP is disappointing so that I can get my much-needed eight hours. But the specifics of these thoughts are how I'm going to get the EP as quickly as possible. I know I'm rehashing a common topic here, but what is everyone's (in N. America) experience with internet import ordering? How long does it usually take? Is CDnow worthy or does anyone have any other recommendations? The EP comes out on a Monday and I'm hoping to get it by the end of that week. Is that unrealistic? I'm not sure I could stand much more time than that. Katrina, who'll soon be guiding her co-workers on a fun-filled sun-filled holiday to her home country, told us of Stuart's travel plans: > unfortunately, no as Stuart's flying back tonight to cut the forthcoming > ep, so ... sorry! > More to add to the list of Belle and Sebastian's perfections. None of this "our fans just got a tour, they can wait a while for new material" business. Christian and I were talking about this walking back to the car after the DC show on Friday...that one of the great things about Belle and Sebastian (and their labels) is that there's always something new. The last band that I went crazy about (in a very different way) was Pulp, and it was such a let-down after seeing them live to think that it was going to be *years* before I got to hear anything new. A year and a half to be precise, and when it showed up, it was pretty disappointing, as it was bound to be. B&S on the other hand...barely a month after I see them live, we're getting new music. Plus another EP and the Tigermilk re-release next spring. "Thank you" just doesn't seem to be quite enough anymore.... Speaking of Christian, he's now on the list. Keep an eye on him. Like all Philadelphia Eagles fans, he'd just as soon cut you with a broken bottle as look at you. He's shifty and cunning and will smother you with his massive CD collection if you say anything bad about me. Mick McMick told us a great story and then said: > it's a tale worth telling I feel, so take > it or leave it. I wonder how close I came to Reid.... > I'll take it! And then some. In terms of quality, you were way ahead of me. In terms of length, I don't know, but...the longer the better as far as I'm concerned. Um, obviously. Thanks to everyone who sacrificed their fingers to give us the kind of information that keeps me from getting a decent night's sleep. I'm kind of sad, though that I didn't meet more Sinister members at the shows I went to. All those people I would have loved to have met were RIGHT THERE and...oh, well. Next time. I wasn't thinking real straight. Alright, I admit it: Everyone says that Megan was very lovely, and if this is Magnetic Fields Megan, then I missed out big time. By the way, I can type fast. I'm not bragging...just explaining to you why my posts are so long. Well, that and the fact that a certain band continues to be so interesting. You always cry (for joy) at endings, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmj204 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 4 05:58:03 1998 From: rmj204 at xxx.edu (Rich Juzwiak) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 21:58:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Can someone please help me? Message-ID: <199811040259.VAA11312@is7.nyu.edu> Hey all- I just subscribed to the list... Anyway, I saw B&S last night in New York... I had seen them last year when they did the Angel Orsanz gig (September '97)...I really enjoyed both shows a lot. I appreciated the setlist of last night's show because I was a lot more familiar with most of the songs (as opposed to the first time when I barely knew any)...this brings us to my question... can ANYONE help me with a copy of "Tigermilk"? I'll send a tape, postage money, extra money, my soul, anything...I'm desperate for a copy. Also, if anyone has any tapes of concerts (especially with "The Lonliness of a Middle Distance Runner" which could be my favorite song by ANYONE, EVER), I'd send my soul and most of my friends' souls as well. So, if anyone can help, I'll be SO grateful. Thanks so much! Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 04:06:45 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:06:45 EST Subject: Sinister: a wee bit of smut Message-ID: <87768b5c.363fd2d5@aol.com> hi all, okay, firstly, to matt crooker: i've misplaced your email address, and i'm just a lazy bum and not at all in the mood to hunt through my stuff when goodness, help is just an email away! and secondly: i'd like to say to those of you who didn't dress up for hallowe'en that you're wet blankets, the lot of you. the one day of the year where you can be on the outside exactly what you would never be inside, or you can be more of what you want on the outside...witness my tinkerbell. if i could, i would glitter all the time, and that's a promise. when they get jerome russell glitter spray in toronto, look out. the last thing: a crushboy update. ahren has brokoen up with his girlfriend (yay!) but is a big commitment-phobe due to her excessive clinginess. i still feel a fire in my loins when we speak. and tonight at work, i just couldn't stop touching him (oh god, how pathetic)...like when we were talking, i would touch his side or his arm...he was showing off his buffness (i swear i could have wet myself i was so excited) and flexing, and i was this total girlygirl, touching his muscles. as lame as it is, i can't help it. he is one hot boy. i only want him for the sex, and i'm not ashamed to say it. at least, not to you. mmm... like butta. truly, jessicaxo ps. english midterm tomorrow at 8:15am, yuck. but it's my last exam! wish me luck, sinisterines. pray for no writer's block. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Riddley13 at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 04:51:37 1998 From: Riddley13 at xxx.com (Riddley13 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:51:37 EST Subject: Sinister: NYC Show tapes Message-ID: <8ec2fdc3.363fdd59@aol.com> due to the overwhelming replies I rec'd today about taping the NYC shows I am asking that if you are interested please send me two 60 min tapes and some stamps to cover the postage please include your address (of course), email, and what shows you want (in case you just want one night) I will email you when I have sent out your tapes (so you don't have to watch for the postman everyday) email me privaltey to get my address thanks Attention stray4f at prodigy.com -- i have tried to email you but it keeps getting sent back .. do you have another address? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 05:16:00 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 00:16:00 EST Subject: Sinister: smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys Message-ID: <19981103.233146.4591.2.carrick44@juno.com> excuse me a second, I got to find a new CD, The Impressions CD just ended... Sorry, that took longer than a second, I had to put my clothes in the dryer as well. Ahh, yes...The Byrds. Been listening to them a lot the last couple of days. Something to do with hearing Turn,Turn,Turn Sunday night. All I can say is, The Byrds are better than B&S. At least right at this moment. But I don't think I would fly halfway across the country to see a Byrds gig. And you guys are making this stuff up about them playing We Rule The School last night. No way. Can't be. That's the first song I heard by B&S, driving in my car, early one warm late winter evening. And someone offered me a ticket for last night. But I was too tired... I could have heard Loneliness, I know where..., all for the first time. Damn! Damn! Darn! Back to happier thoughts. Spent this evening discussing the purpose of life with what we'll call for now a discussion group, but all I could think of is how beautiful Lord Anthony sounded Sunday night. "smarter than most boys....." Sunday started out well. Another beautiful sunny day. Found my keys in the field I'd been lying around in the day before. Not much traffic going into the city. Parked downtown, since that's the only place we know how to. Had a lovely little dinner with lots of red wine down in this little french bistro in SoHo. And forget Isobel, I got a crush on the Belgian waitress at this place. She smiled and waved at me when we finally left. She probably does that to all the boys. Got to the Supper Club to get Michele's extra tickets (thanks again) and than went around the corner to have a somewhat reasonably priced drink. Came back to find the rest of our group waiting outside. Supper Club was a bit two swank for my tastes. I don't like having to tip someone for handing me a paper towel. More on that some other time. My friend Donna was there, so she had to fill me in on all her latest boy problems. That used up most of the time Containe was playing. They did sound better Sunday than they did in Boston. I embarrassed myself by introducing myself to the drummer from the Lilys' after I had been introduced to him twenty minutes earlier. And the DJ!!! Started off with Lady Friend by the Byrds. Perfection. This guy should have been in Philly, could have turned the canceled concert into swinging 60's pop/ soul party. Are we supposed to know this guy? Someone else mentioned his name like we were supposed to know him. You all know the set list by now. I'll just repeat myself by saying that Lord Anthony sounded amazing. The whole set sounded amazing. I chatted to Chris a little bit afterwards, wanted to thank him for personally announcing the cancellation in Philly, and to reassure him that at least our little group understood. He mentioned that he felt that the show just finished was the best so far. I was already to go again, but the drive home at 2am, hardly staying awake after spending a few hours at Swifts (this place is always filled with Brits. Why? Is it in the official guide book to NYC or something?) put me over the edge. Hi to the few people I met (Mick, Megan, and Matthew) (And Mick, I hope you mean the young Alan McGhee) It was a pleasure to meet all of you. You all seem like lovely people. And boo to the guy (who I later found out was from the Make Up) who interrupted Stevie Jackson when he was about to tell me how his record shopping went. And boo to the bouncers in general, who seemed to be about to kick the band themselves out of the club. The tour is over. Lets all go back to talking about ourselves now. On second thought, keep the stories coming. Maybe we can make it last till the next tour. Especially if they are as good as the one about the wandering girl from Missouri, and her friend from Virginia. Its getting colder.... Stay warm and well fed. Carrick _________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Wed Nov 4 08:36:47 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:36:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Stevies full of good intentions Message-ID: <199811040836.IAA14892@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi there, At present I have moved to the digest list, to save on space in my inbox, and as a result am always about 12 hours behind the mails, so please excuse me if this has already been answered. Mick McMick asked whether Stevie was mentionned in Modern Rock song, and he is. Stevies into good intentions, Richards into rock and roll, Stuarts staying in cause he thinks its a sin that he has to leave the house at all. And before you think that I'm a sad git who knows all of the lyrics, I spent the first few months singing a Century of Fakers, with the line "And the orthodontic cases" as opposed to "And the author dedicates it". Don't ask me why I didn't question the relevence. Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Nov 4 10:17:33 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 10:17:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Stevies full of good intentions References: <199811040836.IAA14892@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: <364029BD.DFB759C4@jeepster.co.uk> hello ... Jake wrote: > Stevies into good intentions, i thought it was "stevie's full of good intentions" ... but that's just me ... cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Wed Nov 4 11:38:11 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 06:38:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i used to say some things..... Message-ID: <36403CA3.D65@earthlink.net> i'm sorry. i never knew i was smutty until reid said i was, and then i figured "well, hell...oughta live up to the description" i take back what i said about stevie being shifty eyed. i take back what i said about mick looking like a woman. i didn't tell you that stuart m. looked like lucky the leprechaun off of the lucky charms box, but i would've taken that back also. but stevie's eyes were shifty. he looked like he was plotting something. and damn that mick almost gave me a boner. well, mick wasn't that sexy. but, hell, give me a couple of drinks and put him in a mini skirt and i might have told him my sign. which is capricorn, for all you sexy mamas looking for a list crush. smooch! -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Nov 4 11:45:21 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:45:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys References: <19981103.233146.4591.2.carrick44@juno.com> Message-ID: <36403E51.3E7BCB6E@jeepster.co.uk> hello again, Carrick C Blair wrote: > And the DJ!!! Started off with > Lady Friend by the Byrds. Perfection. This guy should have been in > Philly, could have turned the canceled concert into swinging 60's pop/ > soul party. Are we supposed to know this guy? Someone else > mentioned his name like we were supposed to know him. i think you must mean Andrew Symington ... isn't he fabulous? he's a well known dj in glasgow and commands the decks at hi-karate, goodfoot (i think) and divine not to mention many others. he is always the man responsible for all the belle & sebastian and snow patrol artwork ... i spose you could say he's our resident artist @ jeepster, but i know he's much better than just that ... ... and he's so sweet too! hope this helps. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Wed Nov 4 11:36:16 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:36:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: snow Message-ID: McTag: >Because BA fucked up, they put me in first class Is that cos he wasn't gettin in no plane with no crazy fool, and you got his seat? I'm off to a shaky start, I fear. I shall persist nonetheless. Glad to hear you're in love tag, it warms my heart. Which is handy because it's supposed to snow today. It better cos last time they said it would, there was no snow. Just a throw of petals. If it does snow I will climb up Ben Lomond and make the biggest snowball ever, by simply rolling a pebble down the slanty side. I reckon the giant snowball will finish its rolling around the borders region. I shall then carve the snowball into a snow palace with snow tables and snow chairs and snow chandeliers. In the snow palace I shall have a party, which you are all invited too. Bring your own bottle though. That's only if it snows though, and just now the sky is as clear as can be. So don't put on your winter woollies yet. Peter, now that you've finished the duke's book can I possibly borrow your copy? Are there any pictures of the duke in it in a mess and in a dress during his pop odyssey? I like it when the duke is in a mess and in a dress. Turn, turn, turn - Belle and Sebastian played it in Hyndland church back in June, remember. Stuart told us not to sing along, we had to listen to them and not make a sound. Did he say the same to you lot? I bet he did. You know, I feel quite relieved Stuart is back in Scotland. I've been worried about him. I can now continue my stake out across the road from the church hall without feeling like a total fud. christine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 4 11:43:52 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:43:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: List crush In-Reply-To: <364029BD.DFB759C4@jeepster.co.uk> Message-ID: A few people have been asking about this list crush vote. Well you can vote for as many people as you want I guess within reason (I think 10 or more and you've got serious moral problems...). Band members are excluded, 'cos otherwise Isobel and Stuart M would win by a mile. And no voting for yourself either, Brier... As for who's winning at the moment, well you'll have to wait and see. Let's just say it's noone who won last time... While I'm here, with all these people talking about getting really embarrassed about meeting band members, did I ever tell you about the after-show club we went to in Leeds? Sample conversation: Me; "Hi, I'm Stuart, I live just North of here." Fluffy; "I'm Sarah, I come from Preston." Mick Cooke; "Hi, I'm Mick, I'm from Glasgow." Like we hadn't already figured that out... But all the ones I've spoken to have been really friendly. And Wee Chris is a superb dancer. Right, got to go - Milla, I did get your tapes, I'll get back to you when I've got more time. Molly, your tape is on the way. Others to follow in the next couple of days now I've got the French session (Cheers!) And a big kiss to the poor deluded fool who voted for me :-x Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From adamiv at xxx.net Wed Nov 4 15:11:55 1998 From: adamiv at xxx.net (robot) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:11:55 -0600 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <199811041439.JAA09856@newman.concentric.net> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Wed Nov 4 13:44:14 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:44:14 +0200 Subject: Sinister: Say hello to mum! References: Message-ID: <36405A2D.5217@club-internet.fr> Hi list! Just a quick message about the tapes of the B&S radio session in France (the 'satanic session'). I received many requests and I cant make tapes for everyone, especially listees in the US (i remind you someone in America is said to make tapes for you - just have a look at the archives with Philippe Garnier as the author of the message, for example). Moreover, I had a problem with my computer and I lost the address of the listee from Danemark who asked a tape : i'm silly and sorry, but could you send it again? Your tape is ready... Cheers Stephane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 13:58:39 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 05:58:39 PST Subject: Sinister: wake up shake up your blanket of sorrows Message-ID: <19981104135839.1049.qmail@hotmail.com> I share dreams everyday. Well it's more the collision of two very separate dreamstates, unfortunately. The boy I carpool (well, I drive) to school with calls me each morning at 6 a.m. just after waking up and I of course am also still caught in the throes of my dream and each morning we try to talk to each other to make sure we're awake and it's always, in retrospect, very funny and very, very embarrassing. Not that I ever have that much composure to begin with but he certainly does and I think I feel more embarrassed for him. As someone who lost their virginity to the tune of the Stooges, and you see the results, I would advise against it. Make a tape of it for your loved one to take far away from you. It's my favorite album ever but it's also very, very dangerous, well, emotionally. You start thinking like a reptile, you know, "will this person be fertile enough to bear my children?" I'll vouch for Magnetic Fields Megan being lovely but I think I rather creeped her out, not surprising really but amusing, still. By the way, you know you have a Candida albicans infection by a cottage-cheese-like vaginal discharge, and yeah, "Listeria" is really a disease, too. I just got tested on all these things yesterday, those were the books I was reading at the show. Well, not during, but before and after. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 15:09:32 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 10:09:32 EST Subject: Sinister: B&S weekend Message-ID: Since Mick went and let the proverbial "cat out of the bag" on the journey to Washington DC and the NYC shows with my fellow Intrepid Travellers, I am just left to fill in the gaps that he didn't cover. Since we were driving back to NYC at 2 am. from DC, we needed something to keep us occupied. Megan fulfilled that task with her preoccupation of men shagging in reststops in highways. She seemed surprised that such a thing happened--apparently her parents neglected to tell her of the homosexual subsculture. She also sang along to Pulp and Lush on the car stereo. Then Brian decided to make it karaoke version and would turn down the volume to hear Megan sing acapello. Oh the things we do to stay awake... I was awake for 24 hours and now I have a cold--I think there is a connection. Sunday morning I woke and was unable to move my head to the right. And I had forgotten my tickets in my dorm room. I spent most of the day retrieving the tickets and missing train connections by a few minutes. I borrowed Brian's Nick Drake cd and listened to it for three hours--it was the only thing I had to listen to on my discman. I think I might be in love with Nick Drake. (Brian, don't be jealous--he's dead). I was a bit concerned about how the show would be on Sunday evening since the show in DC was a bit lackluster. Afterwards, Brian kept repeating to me that he wished I could have seen the band last year in NYC. The band began with "The State I Am In" and the rest of the show continued beautifully. If only you could have seen Michele's face when Stuart and Chris began to sing "Turn, Turn, Turn"--I guess it was having all the parts of your life come together in one evening. Brian, Julie, Julien, and I spent a few early morning hours in a bar, smoking and drinking. Funny thing--none of us are smokers. Ryan from California sat in the corner of the room listening to his discman and smoking. Poor Ryan had to carry his luggage with a broken wheel all night because he was staying at Brian's after the show. He handled it well, yes he did. Walking on Broadway the next day, he called listee Beth on his cell phone. She wasn't in. (Hello Beth). Ryan and I spent part of Monday shopping for warm clothes for him. Being from CA, he didn't have any clothes for below seventy degrees. NYC was more like forty all weekend. He had the heat from his cigarettes to keep him warm. By Monday evening I was able to move my head to the right, but I was coming down with a cold. The crowd at the show was a bit ruder than on Sunday. Michele began throwing ice at loudtalkers. I am partly guilty since I gave her the cup of ice. I asked a couple at the bar to be quieter and the squeaky drunk red head asked me if I would like to step outside. The funny thing was, I would have fought her. The band had been playing only fourteen song sets for the tour. After thirteen, Michele asked what song could be next. The band began "Century of Fakers", which Michele had just been saying to me how much she loved. The band surprised us further with another song--the France Gall cover. Odd for the tour to end with that, but the band has always been a bit odd. I would have like to have gone to the aftershow meet-up, but I realized I needed to be in bed to nurse my cold. Apologies to everyone I met that I never really had a chance to talk to then. Tuesday morning Ryan left while we were waiting for him to say goodbye--he must have thought we were asleep. I took the train back to school, humming "Loneliness of the Middle Distance Runner"--a song I have heard twice live. Amanda was once going to tape it for me before she disappeared in Brighton. By the afternoon I was back in classes. So that was Belle and Sebastian? In a word, at the risk of being trite, it all seemed a bit... magical. Living and loving Matthew +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tremblingbluestar at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 14:25:21 1998 From: tremblingbluestar at xxx.com (gentle deviant) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 06:25:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <19981104142521.11456.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> unsubscribe sinister == _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ardhui at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 14:47:17 1998 From: ardhui at xxx.com (Frederic £) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 06:47:17 PST Subject: Sinister: Isobel french pop song Message-ID: <19981104144717.8315.qmail@hotmail.com> Lyrics in french and english http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Aegean/2172/poupee.html Fred ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajduric at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 15:57:42 1998 From: ajduric at xxx.com (Alexandra Duric) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 07:57:42 PST Subject: Sinister: Black Sessions have landed in CANADA Message-ID: <19981104155743.22802.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello sinisterines! Philippe is a lovely lovely man..., but then again, he is French, and that's enough for me these days! I came home to my second piece of mail from la belle France, the first touched my heart, but alas, twas not the Black Sessions, but a postcard from someone I met on this very list. No the Sessions was the second piece, and let me say that my flatmate and I were quite ecstatic and listened to it immediately! Poor souls that we are, we missed them in Toronto and we're trying not to be bitter about it, really we're not, just very very sad, and hope that Belle + Seb had such a wonderful tour in North America that they'll come back soon, and NOT just the West Coast next time!! Must do Detroit or Toronto!! (How do you bypass legendary Motown? I'm perplexed!) So Jeepster, please keep in mind it takes 3 days of uninterrupted driving to get from Toronto to Vancouver??? I mean, this country is massive! So Philippe, those photos of the Toronto show, I obviously do not have - I'll have to be a bit more creative now and send you something in the spirit of B+S. Anyhow, all you CANADIANS, email me privately if you're interested in a copy. I'm going home now to curl up and die from too much work, no sleep and a nasty flu - so don't be alarmed if you don't hear from me for a few days. I'm thinking ... I know, anyone who sends a brief little story of their favourite B+S SONG will get priority (and we'll put it in the next issue of Idoru, if that's OK with Carly?). Hey FUNKYSEB! My computer ate your address - please send again so I can get a copy of Idoru with your article in it! Oh, right, here's a tip for all you frequent BA flyers, I worked for them in Vancouver, and really, if you bitch and bitch when they screw up (which is most of the time!), guaranteed, you'll be doing first class everytime. Cannot say the same for Virgin. And it sounds like Mercury Rev have landed in the UK - try and get your hands on the Chasing a Bee video; quite a trip. And if anyone's wondering why their old stuff sounds nothing like the new or last album, it's because they got a new singer, the old Flaming Lips guitarist (Goddess on a Hiway is actually a Flaming Lips song that Jonathan never managed to release). And Grasshopper just released a solo album last month. cheers, Alexandra PS - Carly, give me a call at home this afternoon, I cannot get the hell out of here 'til noon, bloody hell, I'm pissed. And it's been confirmed, not off to TO this weekend - working instead. ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Nov 4 16:11:57 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 16:11:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: pre-B&S/the formation of the band Message-ID: <36407CCD.6FAD28DB@jeepster.co.uk> Mick McMick wrote: > Also, all of this is just what I read, so a good deal of it may be > false. If you know it to be, please let me know that too. Honey said > he'd like to put it on the website as well. Well, probably. well, here we are, correcting things already ! as for the site thing, it already exists on the jeepster site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/faq/biography.htm and i can simply update the relevant parts if someone discovers something new :) the biog (which is effectively what this is!) was originally written by katrina when we were all writing bits for hopeful inclusion in a 'rough guide' type book on music. > Firstly by now we've probably all heard that Stuart Murdoch wrote > rather a lot of songs on his own. Apparently he searched to be in a band > for a while. He made some cassette tapes, at least two, and gave them to > various people. I heard from a friend that he visited America for a > time, and brought some demos with him. Supposedly he "jammed" with my > friend's friends in Portland, but we'll never know the truth to that. that bit is unfounded, we'll ask stuart m when he settles down, though i'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who can lay claim to similiar things due to stuart's passionate search for band members. > Suffice it to say he wrote some of his own songs, that's all that's > important. One of the demos, supposedly the first, was released in '94 > and entitled Le Pastie de la Bourgeosie, and apparently featured the > song of the same name. Another was perhaps entitled Lisa Helps the > Blind. No idea on song titles, number of songs, etc. possibly also contained the first versions of 'sleep the clock...' and 'electronic ren...' > Stuart recorded the vaguely known Stow demos ("Pocketbook Angel," > "London Has Let Me Down Again," "Hurley's Having Dreams,") at Stow > College, alone (unless you count the drum machine). note, he was NOT on the stow college project, i actually think these demo's were recorded in 'beat box' and not stow. > Stuarts Murdoch and David met through a government program and > collaborated as Rhode Island, sending Jeepster a demo with Dog on > Wheels, the State That I Am in, Belle and Sebastian, and My Wandering > Days Are Over. this is false, they did collaborate and record the demo, but the route to jeepster was via neil robertson who was doing the stow college music course with stuart david (not stuart m). neil hadn't sent a tape in for a while and mark jones (one of the jeepster bosses) asked neil to send him whatever he had, neil the sent a tape down with lots of stuff on it, 'rhode island' were just one of the bands on that tape, i think there were 2 or 3 songs on that tape, one of which was 'the state i am in'. > They did some bedroom gigs, as well as Glasgow radio > session. No word on the songs, though. Rhode Island recorded the Dog on > Wheels EP with Mick Cooke and various studio musicians, I guess for > release on Jeepster? Not sure about that. nope, just original demos'. jeepster released them after mark jones and stuart m had a talk, jeepster felt the recordings were important and shouldn't be shelved, stuart m agreed and the demo's formed the ep. > For reasons unknown to me, they formed the band from people met at the > Grosvenor (sp?) Cafe in Glasgow. I don't know if these were random or > auditions, but I suppose auditions. Richard Colburn was living in a flat > with Stuart David (I think). This was in January of 1996. roughly right. they were spending all their time in the café at that time, i think it was just a case of approaching everyone or being approached. at that time it appears that if you could play something no-one else could play and they liked you, then you were in the band! > Not sure as to why "Modern Rock Song," only mentions certain members of > the band. Perhaps they had an early incarnation as the Stuarts + Richard > and...did they mention Stevie in Modern Rock Song? My memory's gone > fuzzy and I'm too lazy to go listen to my session. we're unsure of this as well. one idea is that 'modern rock' was written in an early rehearsal/jam and that whoever was present and consented managed to get written into the song. it's clear that sarah wasn't in the band at that time, but everyone else was. mick was still a friend/session musician, he joined a lot later but was there for this. > They played an early gig in a bedroom in Glasgow, probably some days > after forming, on the 13th of January. The lineup consisted only of > Stuart M, Richard, and possibly Isobel. Here's what they played: > > Mary Jo > Expectations > My Wandering Days Are Over > You're Just A Baby > Your Idea of Fun* > I Don't Love Anyone > The State I Am In which i guess you've discovered from the old flyer that advertised it. the set list was announced on the flyer as a 'programme'. > Then they recorded Tigermilk at Stow, added Sarah somewhere after that, > then signed to Jeepster in August 1st '96. Mick played with them on > various recordings, but didn't become an official member of the band > until...I think just before 3...6...9 you can fill the rest in using the biog we already have, i hope you don't mind if the timeline jumps a bit now so that i can include that biog for you... -- biography Belle and Sebastian were formed in an all-night café in Glasgow, January 1996. Stuart Murdoch (singer/songwriter) and Stuart David (bass guitar) met on a government training scheme and recorded some demos, which were picked up by a Jeepster scout who was taking part in the Stow College Music Business Course. The course, run by ex-Associate Alan Rankine, produces and releases one record every year on the college label Electric Honey Records, usually a single. Homever in the case of Belle and Sebastian they had enough songs to record a whole album, and so the elusive Tigermilk was born. Recorded in three days and one thousand copies released on vinyl only, it now changes hands for up to £400 per copy. Belle and Sebastian then signed to Jeepster in August and the critically acclaimed LP "If You're Feeling Sinister" (JPRCD/LP/MC001) was released November 18TH. The Support slot for the Tindersticks ICA Gigs, Followed by a headline show at the Borderline in early November brought the joys of Belle and Sebastian live to the south for the first time. The band then set about with the plan of spending the summer of 1997 releasing EP's, the first of these being "Dog On Wheels" on 28TH April. This release contained early demos of the band, previous to all the current members joining, including the demo version of "The State I Am In". Mark Radcliffe had played the mastered Tigermilk version of this track relentlessly and for those without a copy of the vinyl masterpiece, the Dog EP (JPRCDS/12/7001) appeased the fans thirst enough to put the single in at Number 59 on the singles chart. The second EP "Lazy Line Painter Jane", was released on July 28th, the Week of the seminal Union Chapel gig in Islington, London. Despite the poor sound, the band had the crowd dancing in the aisles (and pews) of the chapel. For most, this gig was their first B&S gig and a religious experience was shared by all. The "Lazy Jane" EP narrowly missed the top 40, crashing in at number 41, much to Chris Geddes (keyboards) amusement, as he had made bets with Jeepster boss Mark Jones that it would not get in. The band played two more gigs on their mini tour of the south-west in Oxford and Colchester, preparing them for their American debut. The "Sinister" LP had been licensed in north America by virgin subsidiary label the enclave since February. Belle and Sebastian journeyed over to New York in September to take part in the CMJ (College Music Journal) festival. They played two gigs at the Angel Oransanz Foundation Centre For The Arts, an old chapel in Greenwich Village. The excitement levels were so high, parts of the ceiling decided to join the band onstage, as Belle and Sebastian - literally - brought the house down. The band were also invited to play at the Barcelona BAM festival in late September. This time their venue was an ancient courtyard at the Plaza Del Rai, and under a starry moonlit sky, beneath the gaze of a thousand gargoyles they captivated, yet again, another audience. "3..6..9 Seconds Of Light" was the last of the summer EP's released on October 13th, and the music press finally realised just how important B&S are, when both the Melody Maker and the NME made it their single of the Week. Despite the lack of radio play, it became the bands' first top 40 hit, debuting at number 32 on the charts. Belle and Sebastian spent the end of 1997 recording their third LP and rehearsing for the Christmas gigs at the Manchester town hall on the 27th and 28th of December. The late summer of 1998 will see them release their third album and with it, whether they want it or not, they're almost guaranteed of being heralded as one of the most important bands of our time. > I think that should bring things to a point where most of you know > everything. Anyway, send me suggestions... which does now bring us up to date minus the past two months. if anyone wants to revise the biog to include the earlier info, then let me know and i'll update the site. on the site front, i think that a lot of you may not be aware of just how much info sits there, if you want to take a peek and see what's changed recently you should take a peek at http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/main/index.html cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From his8jm at xxx.UK Wed Nov 4 16:19:54 1998 From: his8jm at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 16:19:54 GMT Subject: Sinister: mmmmmm In-Reply-To: <199810230725.IAA09069@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199811041621.QAA29509@mps1.leeds.ac.uk> I've just noticed something that it is really annoying ina Eureka! kinda way. Why do girls wear, combats, body warmers, Bronx hats and big boarder trainers? STOP TRYING TO BE BLOKES AND HARD! ALL SAINTS SHOULD BE TRIED IN SOME ONE'S ESTABLISHED COURT OF ANNOYING CULTURAL OBLIVIONS.!!!!!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Nov 4 17:33:13 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 17:33:13 Subject: Sinister: Black Sessions for America Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981104173313.4007ad56@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hello girls and boys, I think Alexandra is very nice girl : > >Philippe is a lovely lovely man..., but then again, he is French, >and that's enough for me these days! Oh god, i will soon receive some mails asking for photos again... I really need a photographer! Another proof of Alewandra's kindness : >Anyhow, all you CANADIANS, email me privately if you're interested in a >copy. I just want to add that the tape of the black session will also land very soon in Jim Schmidt's mailbox in San Francisco. Of course, all the american listees already know Jim : Jim.Schmidt at sfweekly.com Kenneth Starr asked me many times to get a copy, but my computer has got problem with his email (kenneth at sex.addict.org). So, if somebody knows mister Starr, tell him it would be fun to try photography or tell him it would be fun to try pornography. Or both. Cheerio Philippe (one L, 2 P's, but no photo !) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 16:44:24 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 08:44:24 -0800 Subject: Sinister: No B&S content - but I thought it was funny... Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C906763037FD71@EDINBURGH> > URGENT!! Please distribute this to everyone you know. > > When John Glenn returns from space, everybody dress in ape suits. We have > 6 days in which to bury the Statue of Liberty up to her head. > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 4 16:55:07 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:55:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Stevies full of good intentions, Byrds covers, vaginal infections References: <199811040836.IAA14892@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: <364086EB.3B6F31D6@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Jake wrote: > Mick McMick asked whether Stevie was mentionned in Modern Rock song, > and he is. > > Stevies into good intentions, > Richards into rock and roll, > Stuarts staying in cause he thinks its a sin that he has to leave the > house at all. And isn't there a line saying something like "Me, I'm..." something or other. I'm not very good at remembering the lyrics, am I? Oh well. I do recall the line "We're four boys in our corduroys/We're not terriffic but we're competent," so evidently there are four members sung about in the song, which I would assume to be two Stuarts, a Stevie and a Richard. Someone suggested in an e-mail to me that perhaps this was written when the entire band was together, but that whoever was there when the song was written was included in the lyrics. The world may never know... Katrina wrote > i thought it was "stevie's full of good intentions" ... I think Jake thinks so as well, as he put that in the subject header =D Probably just a slip of the finger, or the mind ;) Chris(tine?) Leonard wrote: > Turn, turn, turn - Belle and Sebastian played it in Hyndland church > back in June, remember. Stuart told us not to sing along, we had to > listen to them and not make a sound. Did he say the same to you lot? > I bet he did. Is it the same? For some reason I thought the one played in Hyndland church was a different, more religious Byrds song. But I'm going on memory, and my memory has as many holes as an old piece of cheesecloth. Anyway, I don't believe they asked us not to sing along, but they may have asked us to be quieter or something. Remember, though, cheesecloth... Corporea Arenacea writes: > I'll vouch for Magnetic Fields Megan being lovely but I think > I rather creeped her out, not surprising really but amusing, still. > By the way, you know you have a Candida albicans infection by a > cottage-cheese-like vaginal discharge, and yeah, "Listeria" is really > a disease, too. I just got tested on all these things yesterday, > those were the books I was reading at the show. Well, not during, but > before and after. I find it endlessly amusing that someone used Megan to segue into a discussion of vaginal infections and cottage-cheese-like vaginal discharge. But before anyone draws any foregone conclusions, I'm fairly confidant that Minka doesn't have a vaginal infection ;) Discharge-free, /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "Everyone has their own cup of tea. | | Some just happen to like a lot of sugar in it!" | | - Me! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 16:50:30 1998 From: Dorigen.Horlivy at xxx.com (Horlivy, Dorigen) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 11:50:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: In love? Message-ID: <19671EA2F1A6D011AA5100609731D18201E862F6@ank13s.ibd.gs.com> I have a question. I was at the show on Monday and was wondering if Stuart M. and Isobel are a couple. The way he looked at her when she was singing made my heart melt. Dorigen Horlivy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Nov 4 17:08:54 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:08:54 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The Portrait of Philippe G. Message-ID: So, another day checking the photos site, and no Philippe's pictures...sniff. By the way, Megan is there , just in the babies section, looking as cute as expected. Megan, your messages are so cheering! By the way, what do you have to do (probably it is a FAQ but I feel to lazy to check again)to send some picture of you to Sinister? I have realised that everybody is rushing to promote themselves as winners of 'Crush of the list' , so I will have to rush into the photographer, too, I have tried to see the photos at :lorseau.citeweb.net/isession.htm but I cannot download the page...is this address all right? Philippe, I have to confess my main interest was to guess if you were in any of them. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Wed Nov 4 18:17:17 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:17:17 Subject: Sinister: In love? Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981104181717.3dd72928@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> >I have a question. I was at the show on Monday and was wondering if Stuart >M. and Isobel are a couple. >The way he looked at her when she was singing made my heart melt. > >Dorigen Horlivy > I am afraid they are ! I mean : of course they are ! I was just remembering that night in Strasbourg. We met them after the show, we talked to them, and then they went for a walk, together, under the moon, under the stars... Stuart Murdoch is the luckyest boy in the world! Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 17:23:18 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:23:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Massive Attack Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C90676303F4C61@EDINBURGH> Again, no B&S Content, sorry. Someone just told me that Massive Attack have split up. Could anyone on the list tell me if this is true? I'm supposed to be seeing them in Glasgow next month. Cheers, Nhoj. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 17:32:59 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:32:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: celeb spotting at the nyc show Message-ID: hey did you all see Marilyn Manson at the Belle and Sebastian show in NYC? He was there! OK, he wasn't. But my friends and I were trying to spread that rumor. So if anyone heard that rumor now you know why. queen bee janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 17:37:30 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:37:30 EST Subject: Sinister: for the non-twee among us...a placebo question Message-ID: hey, sorry about the lack of belle and sebastian content in this post, but... we heard a rumor that placebo is playing here in new york this thursday, but we don't know where or when. i've been scouring the www for two days now and the only thing i've turned up is some mention of a gig at the knitting factory...but when i phoned the club, i found out this is a lie. does anyone have any correct information? i really do need to know, especially since it is also rumored that gomez is playing with them and i'm currently nursing a *serious* crush on ian ball. silly girl am i. so if anyone knows anything please help. again, apologies for the lack of b&s. i can write gospels about the last four days, but i really don't want to bore you...let's just say i'm still sighing. but how 'bout them silver vinyl trousers?!?! now there's some b&s content for you...phwoar. cheers, stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'do something pretty while you can...' belle et sebastien +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 4 17:50:29 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azrael) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:50:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: phwoar In-Reply-To: Message-ID: At 12:37 -0500 04/11/98, Anastasia Signoretta wrote: (snip) but how 'bout them silver [vinyl trousers?!?! now there's some b&s content for you...phwoar. [ [cheers, stasia okay, it's official. i want a shirt that says "phwoar" on it. maybe i'll just make myself a patch that says it. i could put it on the same jacket as the one that i put my patch of the two dancing kids on . . . -kerry "the best looking boys are taken, the best looking girls are staying inside." -belle and sebastian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar460 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 4 18:01:48 1998 From: ar460 at xxx.edu (Audrey Roofeh) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:01:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: celeb spotting at the nyc show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > OK, he wasn't. But my friends and I were trying to spread that rumor. > So if anyone heard that rumor now you know why. ok, so mr/s manson was not in attanedance, but did anyone see a redhead looking frighteningly like one ms. drew barrymore? audrey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Wed Nov 4 18:10:07 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:10:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: (Call me) SUPER BAD! Message-ID: <000001be081e$5b2bf0c0$584d989e@elsato97> Hello popkiddies! how goest all your many different and varied lives? Hopefully more interesting than mine and my 'squeeze' Garys. We are listening to JAMES BROWN!!! I bought JAMES BROWN - THE GODFATHER OF SOUL, and Best of Sparks for a tenner from Our Price! I tried to get Lee 'Scratch' Perry bloke, but they had sold out....boo.... We have realised you know, that SINISTER LIST is taking over the world, well, Sinister listees anyway. Look at the evidence. Whenever I catch the bus at 5.10 from Friargate in Preston, I see a van with P. MILLER AND SON PLUMBING. And then ON the bus, I pass the MILLER HOUSE....! Today, what did we see in the Hairdresers? PAUL MITCHELL HAIR PRODUCTS??? And in Booths afterwards, 'Waggle Dance - the only HONEY beer'??? And while looking for something for tea, Tag-liatelle..... d'oh! Never mind trying to install Outlook 98 the other day and something called DR WATSON kept popping up..... there was nothing about Adrian Evans though, so obviously he will be first up against the wall come the revolution. I have decided I want to be in on this. Howe about having a whole range of products dedicated to me me meeee??? Gary says he could have a range of MULLET WIGS, seeing as he has relevant experience in that area..... he will call it MULLETS ARSE US....sounds a corker to me...(hehe!) Also - while being sad gits, we decided that we will help Belle and Sebastian with their lyrics. I mean, Stuart, they're alright I SUPOSE, but come on, they obviously need pepping up a wee bit in their 'situational affairs'. We suggest therefore Stuart, you take heed of our song ideas for you. These being : 1)A young girl facing the severe trauma of her local Woolworths no longer selling Barbie Lollies 2)The devastating loss of a be-mulleted notascouser upon discovering he can no longer eat jacket spuds in Preston on Wednesdays. 3)The terror of pushing through crowds in a shopping centre when Hunter from Gladiators is peforming a special promotion in tight blue horrible kecks, and there are tons of 5 year old girls screaming for his body... 4)The strike of fear when you discoverf a white, 8 foot bear, playing the banjo, singing 'i'm your teddy bear', after going up an escalator at 12.00. and finally : 5)Being daft and throwing away your return bus ticket in the bin just before Burtons. has everything doesn't it? Presecnce of well known shopping establishment, everyday trauma (well apart from the bear), and a certain TWEENESS od the parts of numbers 2), and 5). Gary says I'm twee. ME? I disagree strongly.# HANDS UP WHO THINKS I'M TWEE? (I will kil anyone who puts their hands up.) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rwjf1 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 4 17:29:48 1998 From: rwjf1 at xxx.uk (rwjf1) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:29:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S Tapes Message-ID: Hi. I'm new to the list and also slightly pissed off because nowhere that I know sells any B&S stuff. Can anyone send me a tape or something? E-mail me privately at rwjf1 at ukc.ac.uk if you can. Thankyou Robert +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kschaffe at xxx.edu Wed Nov 4 18:24:53 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 12:24:53 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: celeb spotting at the nyc show In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Janine Papp wrote: > > hey did you all see Marilyn Manson at the Belle and Sebastian show in NYC? > He was there! > > OK, he wasn't. But my friends and I were trying to spread that rumor. > So if anyone heard that rumor now you know why. No, but members of Pavement were in attendance, as was a Mr. Chris Lombardi, Gerard's sidekick at Matador Records. Also, I heard a rumor that one of the former members of Teenage Fanclub (the one who's in Mogwai? Is there a former member of Teenage Fanclub in Mogwai?) was there. And I was there with my list crush, who is also my own true love. I'm not famous, though. Just honest. XOXO, Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Nov 4 19:11:40 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:11:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Richard Roundtree Report Message-ID: <01be0826$f4809700$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Chrispoof wrote: >Peter, now that you've finished the duke's book can I possibly borrow >your copy? Are there any pictures of the duke in it in a mess and in a >dress during his pop odyssey? I like it when the duke is in a mess and >in a dress. Sadly, Duke's book has no pictures whatsoever. "What is the point" etc. Of course you can borrow it, Christopher. In fact, I've just had a great idea. I hereby convene the Duke's Book Tree. I send the book to Chris, and three months later Chris sends it to another lucky listee, who in turn sends it to the next fortunate pop fan, and so on! That way, Brad will eventually get to read it too. Duke very kindly signed my copy, so I will sign it too, and then Chris can sign it, and so on and so on. People the world over will be abkle to scratch their heads and think "who the fuck are Eggs?" I thought it was Eels at first. Well, that's my proposal, obviously it'll have to be discussed at the House of Lords first, but I think it's a winner. Send me your address, Chris, and I'll thrust it in your direction. Richard Roundtree - even as I write, the star of "Shaft", "Shaft's Big Score" and "Shaft in Africa" is strutting his funky stuff across the silver screen. In other words, it was sold out. Bugger bastard bugger bastard bugger bastard wank! In order to cheer myself up a bit and keep the blaxploitation faith, I bought "Shorty the Pimp". I'm holding it now. As I listen to the record. It is suitably seedy. I like Stuart M's Babylon Zoo pantaloons. I also like the idea of Elliot from "E.T." being at the New York shows. I'm only sorry he wasn't joined by Elliot from "Pete's Dragon". Warrander John sent me a lovely tape with a lovely cover and a lovely little note written on what appears to be a child's birthday party invitation. It pictures a very attractive young lady dressed in capri pants. I think she's French. I like her a lot. In fact I think I love her. Warrander John kindly put an end to my embarrassing France Gall virginity. She sings in German. Thank you, Warrander John, you're the tops! Football's shit, isn't it? Someone mentioned the DJ at the concerts in New York. It was the dude who does the cover designs for all those lovely B&S records, Andrew Symington. He has a vinyl copy of "They Call Me Mister Tibbs". What I really want to know is, was there a curly-haired little chap by his side? I'm outta here! The Boy Lard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 18:37:22 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 13:37:22 EST Subject: Sinister: celeb spotting at the nyc show Message-ID: awright, janine and our gang were just kidding! though when fran pointed up at the balcony and shouted, 'marilyn!' i did look. that's cos i'm gullible. m.m. *was* at radiohead last year, though... but if we're celebrity-spotting...evan dando was there too. (yeah...i went 'wot?' just like you.) in the balcony. he's chubby now. he was lurking around a pre-gig wee chris and so were we. (you know, i really did want to run up to wee chris and hug him until he shrunk to a size so tiny he'd fit inside my pocket. then i could carry him around with me all the time and bring him out every now and then to prove that something so adorable really exists! but we figured that if i even attempted a hug, he'd be scared and traumatized and fall ill and then b&s would cancel and everyone would blame the tall scary girl for smothering chris.) oh...and there is an ex-fannie in mogwai...it's brendan o'hare, drummer boy. he didn't play with them when mogwai came over here last fall, pity that. oh dear, i've posted twice today. (and if anyone cares...i can't see placebo cos it's cmj badge-only. pants.) stasia anastasia signoretta atlantic records international media relations 1290 avenue of the americas 24th floor new york, ny 10104 212.707.2619 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 'do something pretty while you can...' belle et sebastien ------------- Original Text >From "Schaffenberger" , on 11/4/98 1:37 PM: On Wed, 4 Nov 1998, Janine Papp wrote: > > hey did you all see Marilyn Manson at the Belle and Sebastian show in NYC? > He was there! > > OK, he wasn't. But my friends and I were trying to spread that rumor. > So if anyone heard that rumor now you know why. No, but members of Pavement were in attendance, as was a Mr. Chris Lombardi, Gerard's sidekick at Matador Records. Also, I heard a rumor that one of the former members of Teenage Fanclub (the one who's in Mogwai? Is there a former member of Teenage Fanclub in Mogwai?) was there. And I was there with my list crush, who is also my own true love. I'm not famous, though. Just honest. XOXO, Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barry_meehan at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 19:35:22 1998 From: barry_meehan at xxx.com (Barry Meehan) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:35:22 PST Subject: Sinister: subscribe sinister Message-ID: <19981104193523.23177.qmail@hotmail.com> why isn't this working? SUBSCRIBE SINISTER please ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jamesgoncalves at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 19:36:22 1998 From: jamesgoncalves at xxx.com (James Goncalves) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:36:22 PST Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk release Message-ID: <19981104193623.8374.qmail@hotmail.com> I just picked up a copy of this month's Magnet in which there is a short B&S profile (with the help of Richard Colburn). In the article it's mentioned that Tigermilk will be officially released by Jeepster in January. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jon_Wetzel at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 19:43:19 1998 From: Jon_Wetzel at xxx.com (Wetzel, Jon ) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 14:43:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk release Message-ID: I was under the impression that the masters of this were destroyed.......Are they going to master it from a vinyl Jon Wetzel 972.726.1006 office 972.327.2882 pager -----Original Message----- From: James Goncalves [mailto:jamesgoncalves at xxx.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 1998 1:36 PM To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk release I just picked up a copy of this month's Magnet in which there is a short B&S profile (with the help of Richard Colburn). In the article it's mentioned that Tigermilk will be officially released by Jeepster in January. Perhaps David Kitchen at Jeepster can confirm (or deny) this for us? ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Wed Nov 4 20:16:13 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:16:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: words i hate=workshop,readyreckoner,timeplan Message-ID: <001401be082f$fb02c360$03000004@n2f9x2> one shares, the other chooses - you choose on my ceiling is a larger than life drawing of carlos the jackal. it is done in red lipstick, and my friend tom drew it in a moment of boredom. it is the stereotypical picture of carlos, and strangely benevolent looking. anyway, for ages i had my futon under this bit of ceiling, so every morning, and moonlit night i would occasionally look up, often half asleep and see this nightmarish face watching me. ok, this is a description of a photo. it's me in my room, the light's bad and yellowy, i look quite hollow eyed, and appear to be sporting a feather boa. i am holding up a papier mache gilt picture frame, in which are mounted a pair of fake tits(this was a birthday present, unsurprisingly from tom - i had to carry it around school all day). But in the bad light it looks really odd, like i'm in some kind of bondage gear..maybe...enough, methinks of this filth. as to dogs on wheels - when live dogs are on wheels, it is coz they have hip dyspleysia, coz their backs are too long, though i'm not 100% sure, or even 75% sure about this(i'm no rolf harris, you know), but i once saw a thing on telly about alsatians, who are apparently prone to this. it gives them a new lease of life, said the vet, but that's not the kind of wheelied dog i want, so ner. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Wed Nov 4 22:37:58 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:37:58 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: WWW site Message-ID: Quickly: the Sinister WWW site is down just now I'm afraid and won't be fixed for a few days. It's unavoidable I'm afraid and a pain for some of you I'm sure. I apologise - please be patient. honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheAdwiz at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 22:45:26 1998 From: TheAdwiz at xxx.com (TheAdwiz at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:45:26 EST Subject: Sinister: HELP IM ON FIRE Message-ID: <2c379037.3640d906@aol.com> just wanted to get your attention. this is my first listing so i wanted to say hi and ask if anyone knows about the new ep coming out like when , what will be on it etc. i need answers!!! thanks. -arye (means "lion") +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 4 23:34:05 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:34:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: speaking out Message-ID: hi boys and girls well, i have had no time lately, as i was so busy having fun this weekend that i got way behind in homework and have subsequently been having a series of minor crisises, as anyone in the chatroom could attest too. but i skipped class this afternoon and i'm taking a break from making the star for my next film (out of cardboard and aluminum foil) so i could anwser some lewd and lascidious posts. At 3:18 PM 11/1/98, Genevieve Wesley wrote: >and i want to hear more from megan,she's so lovely! i just saw your >defend-genevieve post and it makes me happy..maybe if ..if i talk more >smut will they like me more? anyways,i'm like the buck-toothed , >split-ended kid and megan defends me and then we go play in the creek,it >could be a b&s song... ok, this one isn't. genni, i adore you too. but come back to chat, we miss you there! and i dunno if i'm really in a position to defend anyone right now. but i shall try. At 10:47 AM 11/2/98, Damon Seils wrote: >onstage, and just in front of you are Megan, Mick, Brian, Matt (the >adorable NYC foursome); you know that somewhere in back are John and damon, were you looking at the right people? we were the ones who had been in a car all day and looked it. but thanks. ;) At 2:44 AM 11/3/98, Mick McMick wrote: >to stand nearby whilst they did. Then Megan tracked down Chris Geddes >and helped him obtain some quarters, as well as showing him some lovely >pressed pennies she'd made on the way (with the aid of a penny press, or >whatever such a contraption is named). yes, i got a unicorn and an "i love baltimore" (i've never actually been there, but i'm sure i will love it when i eventually go) and something about being proud to be an american. all i can say is, those penny presses are enough to raise nationalism in anyone. >Megan babbling in a feeble attempt to keep me awake. Luckily Matt took i do not babble. At 11:56 AM 11/3/98, Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia wrote: >Well , I have some sort of other list crush, and that worries me ,maybe I >am bisexual, or it 's just how ravishing you are, Megan! well, thanks. one can't win the most crushable listee competition with votes from only one sex, ask keith. At 9:39 PM 11/3/98, Reid Dossinger wrote: >straight. Alright, I admit it: Everyone says that Megan was very >lovely, and if this is Magnetic Fields Megan, then I missed out big >time. awww reid, you're a sweetie. i'd like to meet you too. you should have come to the meetup beforehand, it was small but rather nice, and the food was pretty good. At 5:58 AM 11/4/98, Corpora Arenacea wrote: > I'll vouch for Magnetic Fields Megan being lovely but I think I rather >creeped her out, not surprising really but amusing, still. nah eran, i don't creep out easily. though i would recommend that no one ask him about high school. At 11:55 AM 11/4/98, Mick McMick wrote: > I find it endlessly amusing that someone used Megan to segue into a >discussion of vaginal infections and cottage-cheese-like vaginal >discharge. But before anyone draws any foregone conclusions, I'm fairly >confidant that Minka doesn't have a vaginal infection ;) i would like to say that i am currently infection free. and that further speculation on the list in unnecessary. *ahem* At 5:08 PM 11/4/98, Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia wrote: >So, another day checking the photos site, and no Philippe's >pictures...sniff. By the way, Megan is there , just in the babies section, >looking as cute as expected. Megan, your messages are so cheering! wow, when i have a fanclub, you can be the president. hehe. allright, time to go back to making a star out of tinfoil and cardboard. filmmaking is all glamour. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Wed Nov 4 23:44:56 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 15:44:56 PST Subject: Sinister: Buckaroo Logjam?? Message-ID: <19981104234456.5664.qmail@hotmail.com> Just a quick note about the tape tree... Hey! I haven't gotten a new tape tree tape in aeons. Well, at least six weeks. I am just wondering what is up? Erin, Happy Birthday, sweetie. I lost your new email address. Maybe you could set some of the branches on fire for me? Is someone just sitting on them all? Shame on you! By the way, I haven't heard any feedback about my tape. Was it that awful? What?! You don't like Perrey and Kingsley? Sheesh. Hi Brad! Glad yer back, dude. Hi Robbie! Welcome aboard. Confetti teardrops and marshmellow clouds to everyone else, Rachael Bristol ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dagrayson at xxx.edu Wed Nov 4 23:48:17 1998 From: dagrayson at xxx.edu (~Dana~) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:48:17 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: radiohead recordings Message-ID: Hello all i am looking for the unplugged radiohead recording. does anyone have it? i will trade them a copy of the okay computer b sides.... email me @ dagrayson at vassar.edu thanks dana +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dagrayson at xxx.edu Wed Nov 4 23:59:22 1998 From: dagrayson at xxx.edu (~Dana~) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 18:59:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: > > hey did you all see Marilyn Manson at the Belle and Sebastian show in NYC? > He was there! > > OK, he wasn't. But my friends and I were trying to spread that rumor. > So if anyone heard that rumor now you know why. >> No, but members of Pavement were in attendance, as was a Mr. Chris >>>>that one of the former members of Teenage Fanclub (the one who's in >>>Mogwai? Is there a former member of Teenage Fanclub in Mogwai?) was >>>there. so was...evan dando (looking rather icky, if you ask me) and a member of swervedriver... along with others that i heard about, but cant remember +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Thu Nov 5 02:34:04 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 18:34:04 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the allure of Stu and Isobel Message-ID: <001201be0864$c2974d40$1d11020a@rebelstrange> well, it's only appropriate i should say it would be sad the both of them are spoken for, but on the other hand, i could think of nothing more appropriate......i didn't notice any particular loving glances at the dc show, but they did seem to be hanging around together in the bus, ahem.......no i didnt' mean it THAT way......but the way it was described here made my own heart want to melt, because i know exactly how he was feeling.....maybe that's what that funny look he gave me was about....."Yeah, I know...." How cute and a bit sad at the same time. So are there as many people here with isobel crushes as I would expect? someone speak up. I need support at this trying time. it's been years since i had a crush on a pop star and i'm feeling rather well, ridiculous. I want to build a shrine to her and a secret society, and i want her to go solo so we can hear her lovely voice all by itself, at least now and then......awwww stu and isobel, i think i'm going to cry if i think about it any more so i just won't. "Do you have a big bottom? Cause i've got a really big bottom." --isobel in Chickfactor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 01:41:34 1998 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:41:34 EST Subject: Sinister: San Diego Happenings Message-ID: <990799b7.3641024e@aol.com> Is there anything to do in this place? Or in Escondido/San Marcos....i'm really looking for comic book or record stores. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 01:57:03 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 20:57:03 EST Subject: Sinister: he's not kissing his reflection Message-ID: <52428a21.364105ef@aol.com> Dear list, So, can anyone confirm Stu M and Isobel's love for one another?? David? Katrina? I'm just kidding of course. It's none of my business, though I am madly in love with Stuey. He's only.. twice my age after all.. I did see him so generously offer Isobel a bottle of water during the show.. I just realized an interesting conversation piece I could have used if I had talked to B&S. The road I live on is called Belle Arbor. So I do have something in common with B&S, and I'd also allow them to change their name to Belle and Arbor if that copyright issue ever pulled through. Oh, I saw the lovely photograph of a real, living, genuine arab strap in Select! It wasn't at all what I expected though. I still don't understand the spikes... Another question left unanswered, perhaps I'd be best not to know.. I don't have a list crush and I didn't see any celebrities at the New York gigs. Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 02:45:41 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 21:45:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Confessions of a gusher Message-ID: <36411155.6F2E50C3@bigfoot.com> Gram "Parsons" LeBron said: > the whole time I was talking to them, their music, or even music in > general, hardly came up. they are just regular people and > they feel as awkward as you do when you start gushing all over them > Maybe I'm being too harsh, but I don't think that any of us really need this lecture. Even Ms. Lesley Miller, who was wearing a Isobel-tribute necklace obviously realized that Belle and Sebastian are regular people (wonderful story, by the way, Lesley). And by "regular", I'm assuming that you mean that, like all of us, they have the capacity to be annoying, angry, afraid, blah blah blah. We're all aware of that. But none of us are on this list because the members of Belle and Sebatian are really really nice. And I'm going to assume that neither Matador or Jeepster signed B&S because, hey, they're just like you and me. The thing is, they're NOT just like you and me. At least, they're not like me, and if they're anything like you, I'd love to hear your stuff sometime. 'Cause these are people who have it in them to create perfect music. That's not normal. Not for me, anyway. I guess the point I'm getting at is that anyone is welcome to just see Belle and Sebastian as just a bunch of regular folk who ended up in a band together. But I'll be the first to admit that they're much more to me than that. If any of you can write Slow Graffiti or write the horn part to Sleep the Clock Around or come up with the snare fills in The Boy With the Arab Strap, I'll gladly consider you idol-worthy, too. Believe it or not, I have the capacity to treat the members of Belle and Sebastian as normal people if I ever had the chance to talk to them (sticking my head out of a passing car's window doesn't count as "talking to"). But...I'm sorry, Stuart and co. are just going to have to live with the fact that they create incredible music and that makes some people a little gushy. I'm a gusher, I admit. Maybe it's a good thing that they're in Scotland and I'm in North Carolina. > maybe I'm being harsh, but can you imagine how many > "how much your music means to me" speeches, they've heard by now? > Remember, this is Stuart Murdoch we're talking about, a man who once admitted that he traveled to London with the sole purpose of finding the guy from Felt so that he could, essentially, give him the "how much your music means to me" speech. If anyone's going to understand being profoundly moved by a band to the point where you just HAVE to tell them in person, it's Mr. Murdoch. Belive it or not, Gram, I do understand what you're saying. But if I had the chance to spend as much time with Stuart M. as you did, I wouldn't just say, "Hey, Stuart. Seen any good TV lately?" I'd want to tell him (calmly) something along the lines about how his songs came along when Ididn't think I could be *that* moved by music anymore, about how often I've teared up over how many of his songs, about how Seeing Other People is still as great as the first time I heard it. And honestly, selfishly, I really don't care if he's heard it a million times before. I just wish I could have let him *know*, regardless of whether he cares or not. You're welcome to feel sorry for me now if you want. I'm kind of enjoying it, though. Only slightly mental, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 02:50:19 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:50:19 EST Subject: Sinister: swoon! Message-ID: ahh philippe you broke a million hearts "confirming" the fact that stuart m and isobel are a couple! *sigh* i guess i will have to start dreaming about other boys at night! well there is always mick cook! he is quite dashing! :) so my question is, does anyone have the lyrics to tigermilk? there are a few lines that throw me for a loop and i would love to know what stuart is really going on about! if anyone can tell me where i can find the lyrics, or if they can e-mail them to me i would be very grateful. it sounds like everyone had a good time at the shows. i did too although i was disappointed that they didn't play some of the songs i wanted to hear at the chicago show, and they did on later dates! :( i would love to hear the tapes from the new york show! the south park song sounds like it was ace. jennifer who has no list crush as of yet! but then i haven't seen what the sinister blokes look like yet, have i? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar460 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 5 03:23:19 1998 From: ar460 at xxx.edu (Audrey Roofeh) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 22:23:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: an arab strap? In-Reply-To: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C906763037FD71@EDINBURGH> Message-ID: Did I hear someone wonder aloud of the nature of an arab strap....? According to Michael Harris, guitar player and Economics PHD candidate extraordinare: It's actually an "Arab's Trap", used for the capture and subsequent domestication of camels in the Mid-East and Northern Africa. It's a large wooden device, sort of cylindrical, with a single opening that tapers inwards. These traps are laid around the Bedouin tents for when the camels come out at night, with large chunks of cheese at the centre of the trap. The hungry camel will push its way into the funnel opening in order to get at the cheese, but will not be able to get back out of the trap because on the inside, the entrance/exit is way too narrow. "You can check out any time you like but you can never leave" was actually a line from an old Arab camel-droving song, appropriated by a stodgy old West Coast US soft-rock group in the 1970s. (Furthermore, on the same stodgy soft rock album is a song called "New Kid In Town" which adapts the old Saharan oasis-shanty "The Boy With The Arab's Trap", about a young nomad who gets separated from his tribe and it is only through his clever use of the trap that he gains acceptance amongst a new tribe. In the original song, he goes on to become leader of his tribe, and eventually becomes ruler of the desert by slaughtering all the folks in his old tribe who had lost him in the first place. I don't think this part is included in the Eagles' updated version. More's the pity.) More little-known camel trivia. The Arabs were the first to invent ice-cream, but were unable to gain fame and wealth from this because of the difficulties of transporting it through the hot deserts. Not that they didn't try. Camels were heavily involved in the early transportation attempts, hence their famous but usually misunderstood label "ships of the dessert". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mew817 at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 04:33:35 1998 From: Mew817 at xxx.com (Mew817 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 23:33:35 EST Subject: Sinister: Confessions of a gusher Message-ID: <71887a9f.36412a9f@aol.com> Hello everyone, (this post is a bit long) My name is Megan (another Megan) and I'm new to this list. I've been lurking in the shadows for a bit just reading what you guys have to say, but this is my first post. I get a little nervous posting to lists, but I'm sure you'll be kind. ;) I like this list a lot because it's funny and nice and people have cool things to say. I love reading the posts from the UK because I spent 6 months living and working in London and really miss being there. I currently live in Atlanta, GA and am going to try to get back to the UK to work sometime. -If they let me in!! :) Anyway, I was at the show in Athens and it was really great. I'm still not over the whole experience yet. I was with Graham and had the good fortune of hanging out with some of the members of B&S and the guys on tour with them (sound guys, etc). They were all really nice people and we had loads of fun with them. Reid, I don't think Graham meant to offend you, but I'm sure he'll respond to your post. I'm just responding to something that you wrote because it made me laugh (in a good way): > Belive it or not, Gram, I do understand what you're saying. But if I > had the chance to spend as much time with Stuart M. as you did, I > wouldn't just say, "Hey, Stuart. Seen any good TV lately?" It's funny you say that because when I began talking to Richard, I was talking to him about British TV and how I miss it!! Maybe I'm just a big dork, but I talked a lot to Richard, Mick, and Jake about British things while we were hanging out. You see, I've only been back from the UK since the end of June and it was so nice to talk to them about it. I miss it so much over there. [On a side note, I never even spoke with Stuart M. and Graham only did for a bit.] I just thought it was so funny that you used the example of TV. That's so weird. So, I'm really glad to be on this list because it's really well done and hopefully I'll do more writing and less lurking! Take care Megan x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 05:43:40 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:43:40 EST Subject: Sinister: Confessions of a gusher Message-ID: <5c2ad329.36413b0c@aol.com> reid.dossinger at bigfoot.com writes: << Maybe it's a good thing that they're in Scotland and I'm in North Carolina. >> Oh, it's never a good thing to be in North Carolina. gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 05:47:28 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 00:47:28 EST Subject: Sinister: celeb spotting at the nyc show Message-ID: << No, but members of Pavement were in attendance >> I'm guessing Spiral was there, but who else? Just curious, some people on the pave list might be interested. Slightly. gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 06:11:33 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 22:11:33 PST Subject: Sinister: lost love in athens? Message-ID: <19981105061134.22592.qmail@hotmail.com> i thought of a list crush(possibly). but the problem is that i don't know if she is on the list. if you were not at the athens show you can go ahead and delete this, it will probably end up cheesy anyhow. during the show i was standing in the very front, in front of where stevie was playing. well there was this beutiful girl standing to my right in front of the right speaker w/ a guy that was kinda short and had a little beard going on(i think he was a friend but i'm not sure, that's why i didn't approach) she was wearing a nice little early 60's navy blue or black(it was dark) dress with white socks and black shoes, she had short blond hair and the face of an angel. i saw her leaving the show she was parked next to the tour bus. i was thinking that just maybe she was one of you on the list or possibly someone knows who i'm talking about. i know this is a pathetic attempt at meeting someone and you're probably saying "when did the list become a dating hotline" but if you could have seen how well her face matched the music that was filling the room you'd understand. anyhow, on a lighter side, if any of you ladies are looking for a crush my nickname here at home is "dirk";) robbie ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Thu Nov 5 09:43:01 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:43:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Duke Book Tree Message-ID: >Sadly, Duke's book has no pictures whatsoever. "What is the >point" etc. Of course you can borrow it, Christopher. In >fact, I've just had a great idea. I hereby convene the >Duke's Book Tree. I send the book to Chris, and three months >later Chris sends it to another lucky listee, who in turn >sends it to the next fortunate pop fan, and so on!. A splendid idea! Hold tight for my address. I've just had another idea, Peter why don't you record you reading the first chapter of the dukes book out loud? Then I could do the next chapter and so on round the duke book tree until we have the full talking book - we could then put it on cd-r and sell it. Is there a lot of swearies in it? I bet there is. We could edit out the swearies in post production with amusing sound effects, hence saving the dukes teaching career and parent pleasing credibility in the process. Mick McMick, won't you trust me on this Turn, Turn, Turn thing at Hyndland Church. I'm going to a huge firework display tonight with three thousands pounds worth of fireworks. To tell the truth I'm a bit uneasy about this, because I find them a little scary. Especially the ones that go BANG. I always jump even though I know to expect it. I like catherine wheels but, they go hssssssssssssssssssssssss and I go "ooooooooooooooooooooo", like a hypnotised child. I think I'll buy a hat today to cower in. Christopher +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alerche at xxx.net Thu Nov 5 10:09:03 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (Andre Vieira) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:09:03 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian go arena rock! Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981105110903.006a1e80@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> MWaggner at aol.com wrote: > > OK, one more thing before I can fall asleep.... > > Stuart was wearing SILVER PANTS!!! Did he go shopping on Canal Street?? Listen to this! I just saw Stuart M (who just got back from the US to cut the new EP) walking down Hyndland Rd, and I must say: OUR ELF BOY WITH ROSY CHEEKS IS NOT THE SAME ANYMORE! Maybe B&S's newfound fame in the US finally got to him and B&S decided to go arena rock, but Struan changed his looks drastically. Besides the aforementioned silver pants, he was wearing a long-sleeved black shirt with a silver star and the word "zero" written on it! And here comes the worse part: STRUAN SHAVED HIS HEAD!!! Still speechless, Andre. ******************************************************* happy for a day - some belle and sebastian thoughts contact us at: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 10:32:29 1998 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:32:29 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: In Love In-Reply-To: <36374403.2B5D@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: Dear Sinisterees, I am heartbroken if it is indeed true that Isobel and Stuart are a couple. Me and my mate Marcus both have the biggest crush on Isobel. We worship her every day. We fell in love with her at the Shepherd's Bush Empire gig, when she wore *that* school uniform and looked absolutely fantastic. 'Wow!', we said, and sighed heartfelt sighs. If only.... So, can we look forward to any Isobel + Stu romantic duos in the future?? JaMeS +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Thu Nov 5 11:41:50 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:41:50 Subject: Sinister: Ease your shaved head into the sea ! Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981105114150.33af5d02@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Andre wrote : >Listen to this! I just saw Stuart M (who just got back from the US to cut >the new EP) walking down Hyndland Rd, and I must say: OUR ELF BOY WITH ROSY >CHEEKS IS NOT THE SAME ANYMORE! Maybe B&S's newfound fame in the US >finally got to him and B&S decided to go arena rock, but Struan changed his >looks drastically. Besides the aforementioned silver pants, he was wearing >a long-sleeved black shirt with a silver star and the word "zero" written >on it! And here comes the worse part: STRUAN SHAVED HIS HEAD!!! Is Struan also the new name of Shaved Stuart ? Oh god ! If someone tell now that Isobel has got green hair, I will eat living frogs with my tea every morning till the end of my life! David, Katrina, please tell us that this story is not true. I am sooooo sad that I will...I will... shave my head TOO !!!! Philippe, who had a stoke +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 11:04:12 1998 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 03:04:12 PST Subject: Sinister: ta for all them gorgeous thingies Message-ID: <19981105110413.19264.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Sinisterines! Big shout and huzzah! To all those One Dove fans who replied to my plea. Yes! There are fans who still remember the wondrous beauty of One Dove! Keep the emails coming guys! Although I said I might have to unsubscribe because of exams (I've had three so far! They were not too bad but one was awful:)), the loveliness of my fellow B&S maniacs have convinced me to stay! I've tried using B&S as my good-luck before exam music, (before it was usually Belly). I'll let you know if it works. Wish me luck in my remaining exams seeya Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Thu Nov 5 11:27:23 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:27:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: gargantuan Message-ID: <36418B9B.5BAB@earthlink.net> some cockhead wrote: > if any of you ladies are looking for a crush my nickname here at home > is "dirk" -robbie notice he said "at home". his mother feels really bad for him because he has no friends, so she makes him feel better by complimenting the size of his manhood. "that's okay dirky baby....let mama see what you're packing" his sister told when friends come over and someone accidentally calls him "robbie" he gets all upset and whiny and cries "i told you to call me dirk. don't make me look like an ass in front of company, dad" when he's not around, all his friends call him "dork". well, i do, at least. i don't have much else to say. i just felt like speaking poorly of a slack motherfucker who has yet to return my mojave 3 cd that he borrowed about a month ago. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 11:41:59 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:41:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ease your shaved head into the sea ! Message-ID: <01BE08B1.8B75A850.keith@qss.co.uk> Is Struan also the new name of Shaved Stuart ? Oh god ! Is it possible that Andre may not have seen Stuart on Hyndland road at all, and it was perhaps Duncan Goodhew, Telly Savalas or maybe even Yul Brynner (Oooon may be able to sort us out on that one). As far as I'm aware they're still in America, the word last night from Anne I believe was that the newest megastar in the B+S camp, DJ Doctor Divine "the Spinmaster" Symington was coming back on Saturday the 7th from America, as is Mick from whom the date the 7th came completely separately. I'm sure Ian will be able to confirm this one... so unless Stuart came back separately from all the rest, I think it's basically definite that Andre actually saw someone else who was famous and bald, such as perhaps Errol Brown from Hot Chocolate. We went to see Air last night at the Fruitmarket in Glasgow, and it were great, keep up the good work frogs! They did wind up playing bits from "Funkytown" by Lipps Inc. and "Are Friends Electric?" by Gary Numan, plus a strange version of Tomorrow Never Knows, but their own stuff was definitely the best, really good. The frogs really have it wrapped up at the moment with the liked of Air, Kid Loco, Motorbass, La Funk Mob, Daft Punk etc, really great. Tag will be loving it, cause as we all know he's a huge fan of French music, like Jean Michelle Jarre, and Johnny Halliday. Mick McMick, you would be wise to believe the young lad Leonard when he says that B+S did indeed play Turn Turn Turn at the church, we've got a tape of it for a kick off - or at least, it's a tape of me and Chris singing along to the hymn but strategically substituting rude words along the way. Carrick, I think your hair worries are now over, looking like Roger Daltrey just after he stopped using Dippety Doo, and like Chris Hillman stopped the perhaps slightly more dangerous tack of ironing his hair, thet both looked cool, for all that though, I still think you should go for the 70's Daltrey look, where you could grow your hair longer, dress up as a red indian and affect a kind of marching on the spot dance whilst walking down the street. Indeed Peter, sorry to be late on this one but Matey boy Keith Moon did indeed collapse at the cow palace, this was because some bloke offered him a drug which he said was a very strong animal tranquilizer, he was told to take only half of it, but of course he shouts "Rubbish! I'm Keith Moon" and necks the whole thing. Later it is found out in hospital, that this drug is the sort of thing you load up into a rifle and shoot a rhinocerouces to knock them out. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alerche at xxx.net Thu Nov 5 11:57:29 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (Andre Vieira) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:57:29 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ease your shaved head into the sea ! Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981105125729.006e8790@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> >>Listen to this! I just saw Stuart M (who just got back from the US to cut >>the new EP) walking down Hyndland Rd, and I must say: OUR ELF BOY WITH ROSY >>CHEEKS IS NOT THE SAME ANYMORE! Maybe B&S's newfound fame in the US >>finally got to him and B&S decided to go arena rock, but Struan changed his >>looks drastically. Besides the aforementioned silver pants, he was wearing >>a long-sleeved black shirt with a silver star and the word "zero" written >>on it! And here comes the worse part: STRUAN SHAVED HIS HEAD!!! > >Is Struan also the new name of Shaved Stuart ? >Oh god ! >If someone tell now that Isobel has got green hair, I will eat living frogs >with my tea every morning till the end of my life! >David, Katrina, please tell us that this story is not true. >I am sooooo sad that I will...I will... shave my head TOO !!!! I was going to wait a little more and have a few laughs, but I don't want people to take this too seriously. Stuart didn't shave his golden locks, it was just a joke, a little reference to one bald rock superstar who plays in a band called Shooting Broccoli or something... The image that came to my mind when I read about Struan's silver pants was him, on a huge rock-arena-style stage, wearing a black shirt with a silver star and the word "zero" on it, and completely bald. The crowd would roar as he would scream out: The world is a vampire, with blue veins blue... I'll get me coat, Andre. ******************************************************* happy for a day - some belle and sebastian thoughts contact us at: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 11:56:04 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:56:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Help! Message-ID: <003e01be08b3$4435d760$442fc22b@bond> hi y'all, Can anyone remember the name of the bike that was around in the mid-eighties that had a built-in computer? It had a big, thick white piece of cheap plastic over the frame, and had a little screen and buttons that made noises. It may even have spoke. Cheers, Michael PS. I just realised that the kids I thought were cosmopolitan Irish in fact just have Cosmopolitan diaries. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 12:29:41 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:29:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: In Love Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B004261B3@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> >Me and my mate Marcus both have the biggest crush on Isobel. >We worship her every day. We fell in love with her at the >Shepherd's Bush Empire gig, when she wore *that* school uniform >and looked absolutely fantastic. Cripes. Smut's one thing, Scary Lolita fantasizing however is er, just scary really. What's wrong with women in proper clothes then? I'm being drawn in by feminist literature at the moment. Well, I hang around the feminist literature section in Waterstones. It's quite fascinating actually. I think I may be a woman trapped inside a man's body. I certainly hope so. Respect...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 11:48:40 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:48:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinister : Crushed or not as the case may be Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E37C@NCMSERVER> Aw shucks, I don't have a list crush, and I know that no-one sees me as their crush because probably no-one knows what I look like. In order to get round this I've decided to auction my crushness off. I'm a cheap kinda guy, so whoever comes up with the cheapest way to get my affections will be instantly declared my little B&S crush. Am I allowed to be my own crush? If so, does that get me two votes? As for famous-stars spotting, I don't think I've ever just gone up to anyone to tell them how great they are, because generally I just remind myself how incredibly dull the star could turn out to be. In which case I don't want to be the guy stuck at the bar with the boring person, so I turn round and with the piety of one somewhere near the moral high-ground declare to my friends that I didn't introduce myself because "he probably wouldn't have anything interesting to say". Having said that, I once stalked Russ Abbott through Covent Garden, which was fun, and I once had to pretend to be my girlfriend's brother for a confused, drunk, aged Eastenders actress who was very excited to see me again. Problem being that she clearly couldn't see me. Can someone please send me something childishly amusing because I'm about to cry with the frustration of my job and all that lies within. Neil "I must get out once in a while / things have started to die" - TY +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 12:57:22 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:57:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Good work fellas Message-ID: <3641A0B2.2E64@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> Is it just me is the quality of recent postings soaring heavanwards like a big space rocket made by a boy with a bass guitar? I've just sat through three digests and laughed out loud four times and I *never* laugh out loud, not even when I'm being tickled. Loved the BA "crazy fool" gag. It made me spit Latte in a big frothy gush all over my keyboard,which was embarrasing but kind of fun as well and I don't think any of the staff here noticed (well if you are gonna open a geeky netcafe/coffee shop, those are the risks you run).So well done chaps, keep 'em coming. I heard the Stu/Isobel relationship was an on/off kinda affair, so there's (maybe) hope for all you dewy eyed romantics out there or is this just a coverup ploy cooked up by Jeepster to keep single fans interested? Like John Lennon having to pretend he wasn't married in the early days of the Beatles The fans demand to know. I shouldn't worry too much though, if Struan really has scraped his pate, then I expect Isobel will drop him like a hot potato. Silver pants are one thing, but intentional baldness? Sheesh! (Hang on, silver pants? bald head? "zero" T-shirt? STUART M IS TURNING INTO BILLY CORGAN! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! StayLuckyRoryxxx AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAJHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gd5817 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 13:12:58 1998 From: gd5817 at xxx.uk (Greg Davies) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:12:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Help! Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:56:04 -0000 Michael wrote: | | hi y'all, | | Can anyone remember the name of the bike that was around in the mid-eighties | that had a built-in computer? It had a big, thick white piece of cheap | plastic over the frame, and had a little screen and buttons that made | noises. It may even have spoke. | | | Cheers, | | Michael | | PS. I just realised that the kids I thought were cosmopolitan Irish in fact | just have Cosmopolitan diaries. | I think it may have been a Raleigh Street Wolf, although that could be the name of that crappy Knight-Rider-on-a-motorbike series from the 80s. Whatever, it was certainly the bike of choice for all those 8 year old Don Johnson wannabes who were too young for a white Ferrari. Greg. ps In 'Seymour Stein' why do they want to know if he's ever seen Gandhi? ---------------------- Greg Davies. gd5817 at bristol.ac.uk 0117 9094013 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From K970156 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 13:36:38 1998 From: K970156 at xxx.uk (Shelley Feltham) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:36:38 GMT +0100 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <8E78E04A66@neptune.kingston.ac.uk> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonesb at xxx.edu Thu Nov 5 08:45:58 1998 From: jonesb at xxx.edu (Brian Jones) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:45:58 EST5EDT Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe Message-ID: <199811051346.IAA11111@mail.gactr.uga.edu> unsuscribe sinister M. Brian Jones Student Representative University System of Georgia Dept. of Independent Study (706) 542-3243 USA: (800) 877-5243 jonesb at gactr.uga.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From T.Lilja at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 13:52:39 1998 From: T.Lilja at xxx.uk (T.Lilja at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:52:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Gandhi Message-ID: <19981105135131.2225.qmail@europa.salford.ac.uk> Hi I'm new on the list but nevermind that. Greg, what i thought he sang was has he ever seen Dundee as in the town in scotland. On the other hand i might be wrong. (see how humble i am as a new listee) Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 13:49:57 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:49:57 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Neil's Malea Message-ID: Oh,poor Neil! He does not seem to feel all right too well today, with not being chosen crush of the month and all his dull job waiting for him.I don't believe it is a great help to say that probably your mood is widespread worlwide. By the way : have any of you read 'Breakfast at Tiffany's'? I just read it translated into Spanish, so I don't know which English word Holly uses to describe her depressive state of mind, when she plays the guitar sitting on the fire escape ...?That is Malea in the Spanish version. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From K970156 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 13:57:01 1998 From: K970156 at xxx.uk (Shelley Feltham) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:57:01 GMT +0100 Subject: Sinister: In love? In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19981104181717.3dd72928@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Message-ID: <8ECFBE4222@neptune.kingston.ac.uk> dear people, I am totally off this list cos I just got 100 emails in two days which is far too much for someone with a life but I feel I have learnt a lot anyway. For a start, Isobel and Stuart M in love ?? Thats the singer guy yes right? I always thought he wasn't that way inclined (if you know what I mean), just goes to show I read things too literally!! Also I never knew that there were so many american fans of the band. Anyway, cheers for everything, Shelley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Thu Nov 5 13:19:10 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:19:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: a rockin' and a rollin' Message-ID: Since I never look at the words page or whatever it called when a page kindly reporduces their lyrics by consent of whoever even though they wrote them themselves (Spot the non-muso, I don't even know the name of the pagey thing) I hilariously thought Isobelle was singing Roll her toes off in rollercoaster. Complete imbecile, guilty as charged, ay well no matter. There was another funny misconstruing episode which for the moment has escaped my mind. I decided to share this because prior to this I was too shy to write my comments , I was content to just read others but I'm so hyped up on ten billion crates of Red Bull; BIG essay due in in several hours,yikes ! (okay okay 4 cans - I have a low tolerance threashold) that all my usual inhibitions has deserted me , making me feel a bit quivery but also like I could conquer the world.Toodles because I'm off to Match.com to find love, with ridiculous consequences. Byeeeeeeeee -dee- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Thu Nov 5 14:20:21 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 14:20:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Big up Jerningham Road massive! In a New Cross Stylee.... Message-ID: <002566B3.004E054B.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear You load of twats, Have you ever noticed that line in Summer wasted that goes on about 'E'd off faces' ? I hope that's not a misheard lyric. Is there anybody on the list who has any connection with the infamous house on the hill? I am of course talking about Jerningham road!!!!!! Urrgh I've just had the most disgusting egg mayoniase sandwich. I'm not keen on eggs really. I prefer lamb. Does anyone else have any strong views on the egg v lamb debate? Here's one point in favour of Lamb, eggs taste cack with mint sauce. Yeah?! EH!? Think about it people. C'mon, lets not be fooled by our corporate masters LAMB!!!!!!!!!!! (er has someone ben putting acid in the water dispenser ?) love Richard xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 14:22:02 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:22:02 PST Subject: Sinister: bring your own closet somewhere there's a party Message-ID: <19981105142202.23394.qmail@hotmail.com> Funny I thought Stuart M was gay. For a while now. Hence the nice arms. Maybe I shoulda read the FAQ a little closer. Not that it matters, but still. If only I could retract that fan letter..... Oh wow, there's a CMJ going on. PHWOAR. Where am I. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 14:22:03 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 06:22:03 PST Subject: Sinister: bring your own closet somewhere there's a party Message-ID: <19981105142203.18641.qmail@hotmail.com> Funny I thought Stuart M was gay. For a while now. Hence the nice arms. Maybe I shoulda read the FAQ a little closer. Not that it matters, but still. If only I could retract that fan/love letter..... Oh wow, there's a CMJ going on. PHWOAR. Where am I. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Nov 5 14:33:33 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:33:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ride A Rock Horse / Gush Honeybun Message-ID: <01be08c9$446263a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Keith wrote: I still think you should go for the 70's Daltrey look, where you could grow your hair longer, dress up as a red indian and affect a kind of marching on the spot dance whilst walking down the street. That's a really good dance, isn't it? Must have driven the ladies wild. I don't know, Roger's just not the same with short hair - his Dippity Doo / Munsters butler look was pretty wild, but it's the 70s look that does it for me. I like to think of the prisoners in Swansea prison craning their necks to get a look at it when the WHO played the Vetch Field, which is right next door to the prison, which is one of those old Victorian jobs, the architectural equivalent of a 70s WHO album, such as the excellent WHO's Next. I wonder if Daltry nicked all his mum's chamois leathers to make that red indian outfit? I bet she was livid when she found out! Christopher, I don't know if I'll be able to read Duke's book aloud. It features quite a lot of revolutionary punctuation, such as Unnecessary Capital Letters. And short sentences. All of which means it would lose quite a lot as a "talking book" type affair. Besides which, it's liable to cause multi-car pile ups on motorways. I'll have a go though. To gush or not to gush? I'm sure Duke would back me up to the hilt when I say that gushing is all part of the pee-oh-pee experience. I encourage admirers of Belle and Sebastian to gush freely and often when faced with their hearthrobs / heroes. We all gush in different ways, one person may like Seeing Other People, another person may think it's a pile of shit, but really deeply dig Dirty Dream. Thus we have two potential gushers, two very different gushings. Of course, not everyone finds it easy to express themselves, so they may choose not to gush. They may prefer to act cool, like Starsky and Hutch. That is their choice. I'm all for gushing. Gush, and the world gushes with you. Having said that, I tend to behave like Greta Garbo at all times. I'm so glad I didn't tell Rodney Bewes how much I love him when I was lucky enough to find myself in his presence, dear. I just sort of vibed him instead. I think he understood. Let's not forget that Stuart Murdoch has stated in interviews that he enjoys listening to people's problems. So Gush on, gushers. Here's the wonderful "Julie" talking about David Bowie, 1976-ish: "And I used to dream of layers and layers of clothes that we'd have of transparent plastic. And about ripping these pieces of plastic off to unveil something underneath. And I had orgasms of a space kind. Something to do with hallucination really. I was actaually hallucinating in orgasm." I'm sure Stuart Murdoch inspires exactly the same passions in young girls the world over. It's from Fred and Judy Vermorel's book, "Starlust: The Secret Fantasies of Fans". Has anybody got this book? I've only got an extract, but it's bloody good. Shorty the Pimp's a good album. There's one track where a bloke appears to be shouting into his flute! What a great idea! And all a good few years before punk exploded, remember. Peter PS: Just because two people go for a walk under the stars doesn't mean to say they are lovers. One of them could be gay. Or they could just be very special little friends, like squirrels. It's their business, not ours. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian.thompson at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 12:20:55 1998 From: ian.thompson at xxx.uk (Ian D. Thompson) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:20:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ease your shaved head into the sea ! In-Reply-To: <01BE08B1.8B75A850.keith@qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981105122055.006affac@pop-hub.strath.ac.uk> Listees, >Keith scribbled: >Symington was coming back on Saturday the 7th from America, as is Mick from >whom the date the 7th came completely separately. I'm sure Ian will be able >to confirm this one... so unless Stuart came back separately from all the >rest, I think it's basically definite that Andre actually saw someone else >who was famous and bald, such as perhaps Errol Brown from Hot Chocolate. As far as I know, The majority of the band were coming back tuesdaywednesday-ish; Mick, and one or two others (Richard? Chris?) were going to stay on in NY for a few days, and will be back on the 7th as Keith says. So it could have been Stuart getting into his Hallowe'en costume a bit late and doing a fine slaphead impression whilst scaring the locals. Either that or the sudden increase in screaming fans storming the church hall has caused him to go out in disguise.... Philippe did say: >I am sooooo sad that I will...I will... shave my head TOO !!!! How about starting a spin-off hardcore group of B&S fans who all wear shiny silver trousers and shave their heads? I'm game ;) >jennifer scrawled: >ahh philippe you broke a million hearts "confirming" the fact that stuart m >and isobel are a couple! *sigh* i guess i will have to start dreaming about >other boys at night! well there is always mick cook! he is quite dashing! :) Ooh, I'd love to comment on this Stuart/ Isobel thing, but I'd get into trouble. And Mick is already spoken for too, sorry jen. His 50's golfers trousers are a veritable babe magnet - must borrow them next time I'm out on the town. Ian PS I thought I'd throw in one of these to join in with the others: unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 14:27:38 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:27:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Dun-ghan-dee Message-ID: All this talk of Ghandi or Dundee in relation to Seymour Stein misses an important point. Why did they change it from the original lyrics which I always thought were "North of Scotland has he seen?" which I admit could well be wrong as it's a tortured sentance. However I am in posession of some top secret Jeepster files which prove my point and may well go on to ROCK the Belle & Sebastian World to it's very FOUNDATIONS! The file is a transcript of a meeting between a shadowy Jeepster operative (aka Warlord), a Ms(!) H., Stuart Murdoch and Stevie Jackson. Murdoch, sounding more and more like his namesake Rupert, suggests that they should target the song at a more influential record-buying area than the north of Scotland. Somewhere with a demographic profile more likely to respond to their product and where they can shift enough units to keep them in Rich Tea biscuits in their dottage. What follows is a brainstorming session for alternatives... SJ "Has he ever seen Kircudbright - will he fly a microlite....hmm..NO..." SM "Has he ever been to Peebles - will he bring his famous weebles.....naah" Ms H. "Has he visited Kirkaldy - will he find the bus stops shoddy...maybe???" Anyhow this goes on for some time before they resolve to consult some statistics and put the proposals before a focus group of selected young people. In the end Dundee, City of Discovery, is selected as being a representitive urban area that people found the least worst option. So much for the creative process... I have a similar hunch that's what happened to Canada's Moxy Fruvous in their song "King of Spain". Once upon a time the line said "Now the Habs call me up to drive the Zamboni" then when they released the CD it became "The Leafs call me up..." In otherwords switching the focus from Montreal, after further unrest concerning the constitutional position of the province of Quebec, to Toronto home of more English speaking record buyers. Pah - deeply sinister I call it. It's all part of a big global conspiracy...it's the military-industrial-complex...it's..hello, hello - anybody there....ooh sorry Sir Cliff. One more thing - list crushes... I say they don't count if you've actually seen the person involved. Unless your crush began before you met or saw their picture. Email is the perfect vehicle for wonderful crushes on the most inappropriate people you've only ever seen in your minds eye. Some c'mon let's do it, let's fall in love with each other xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Thu Nov 5 14:40:58 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:40:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: bring your own closet somewhere there's a party Message-ID: <852566B3.00506BD5.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> With 2billion gay references in his songs, its hard to believe that he isn't gay. Are you'all sure he wasn't just walking with Isobel under the moonlight? hmmmmm...... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Thu Nov 5 14:50:35 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:50:35 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Neil and Holly and Henry Message-ID: Hello... Arantxa asked: "By the way : have any of you read 'Breakfast at Tiffany's'? I just read it translated into Spanish, so I don't know which English word Holly uses to describe her depressive state of mind, when she plays the guitar sitting on the fire escape ...?That is Malea in the Spanish version." Oh yes, she says she has "the mean reds"... not to be confused with "the blues," but a different, scarier feeling altogether. And the male character says (boringly) "There's a word for that, it's called 'angst.'" I think I prefer "mean reds." There isn't much I can add to everyone's accounts of the perfect Nov 1 New York show at this late date... Oh, I liked Stuart M's joke about running into J.D. Salinger on the street. I don't think anyone's mentioned that yet. And I didn't realize there were so many well-known names in the audience. Hm. I did go over to say hello to Henry Thomas, and I lost my composure and regressed to the age of 12 or so, which is somewhat appropriate since that was my age when "E.T." came out. Moon river, wider than a mile, I'm crossing you in style someday, jessica m xo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 15:00:07 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:00:07 EST Subject: Sinister:Is that an arab strap on the cover of Boy With The Arab strap? Message-ID: <48446e67.3641bd77@aol.com> Hello Sinisters, I finally found out what an arab strap was(Quit a laugh to was). So now im debating weather that is an arab strap on the cover.anyone can help me? Thanks -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kschaffe at xxx.edu Thu Nov 5 16:26:47 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:26:47 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Henry Thomas In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Re: all this talk of the E.T boy... Henry Thomas actually lives (or maybe lived) in San Antonio, where I go to school. He is, in these parts, something of a washed up celebrity. He played in a band called the Blue Heelers for a while, and he hung out with the San Antonio pseudo-art crowd a couple of years back. My only encounter with him was three years ago when he arrived (unannounced) with the Blue Heelers at a Chirstmas party. I remember nothing about him, but my best friend did whisper, "Hey, there's that gnarled kid from E.T." This provoked much laughter on my part. Oh, and my friend's older sister went on a date with him once. I don't remember if he paid for dinner or not. Still, I'm glad he's into Belles and Sebs. And Henry, if you're on the list, I was just kidding about all the things I said about you! Honest! Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From christian at xxx.net Thu Nov 5 16:40:05 1998 From: christian at xxx.net (Christian Scanniello) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:40:05 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sinister: i light my torch and wave it. Message-ID: <3641D4DD.83462B44@worldweb.net> greetings! this being my first post, i must admit to having a bit of stage fright. see, i probably would've just remained the shadows, quietly lurking and luxuriating in this wealth of information for a bit longer....but my dear chum reid has already basically "outed" me in an earlier post. don't ask me about broken bottles though....or eagles either for that matter. obviously i'm a keenly appreciative of the music of one musical combo belle and sebastian. but i've also become somewhat of a fan of, well, you lot. i've been keeping up with the list for awhile now and must admit that my list crush isn't limited to just one lucky soul. so cast my vote for the entire list. well, perhaps, with the exception of indiarub, who has clearly never seen north carolina in october. since this is my first post, i must provide the obligatory "that question has already been answered a thousand times" question. it's not even a very interesting question....but i'll ask anyways. 'cause i'm curious and that's good enough for me. here goes...in the sessions version of "seeing other people" (the slooooooow version), are stuart and isobel also trading verses with stevie??? listening to it again last night in traffic i could've sworn that one of the verses was sung by stevie's fine baritone rather than stuart's dulcet tenor? am i mistaken? does it even matter? prolly not. oh well...i'll offer another feeble observation. do the horns in "dog on wheels" remind anyone else of the theme of "hawaii five-o"? and a firedance through the night, christian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 16:42:29 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 11:42:29 EST Subject: Sinister: King Solomon Message-ID: <19981105.105812.4591.7.carrick44@juno.com> Hello again, No, not Solomon Burke. Just a few things I wanted to mention. When Stevie asked if anybody knew the last verse of TurnTurnTurn by the Byrds, I was tempted to yell out, "Excuse me son, but God wrote that song!!!" Well it actually goes like this... Belle and Sebastain The Byrds Pete Seeger King Solomon God And Brad said, "but stevie's eyes were shifty. he looked like he was plotting something." I noticed the same thing. I first I thought it was him being bored with our conversation, trying to spot someone else to talk to. But he did it so much he must be plotting something, like how he.... I can't think of anything clever so I'll leave that up to you. What was Stevie plotting? And about this Symington fellow. Someone mentioned him sticking around New York till ummm... tomorrow. Was he going to do anymore DJing. Did I miss something special? Any NY hipsters know of any DJs that work in a similar style? I'm ignorant when it comes to NYC clubbing. I know a bit about SF clubbing. 'Darling' can be a bit of fun on a Friday night. Carrick __________ _____________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Thu Nov 5 16:39:40 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:39:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: You can't do that!!!!! Message-ID: <002566B3.005B6969.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear Tossers Charistian wrote and a firedance through the night, christian. - Duran Duran lyrics!! you can't say that!!!!!!!!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billmoss at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 17:00:43 1998 From: billmoss at xxx.com (Bill Moss) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:00:43 EST Subject: Sinister: has he ever seen dundee? Message-ID: <19981105170045.7616.qmail@hotmail.com> hi list people. this is my first post. i live in woodley park, washington, dc. i listened to the boy w/ the arab strap in the record store (dc cd) and wasn't phased, i heard it a few weeks later at work - now i can't get it out of my player? there are lot's of places where the words are different than those on the lyric sheet. i like that - it might mean they can change in the future like bob dylan chages point of view (from first to third) in versions of tangled up in blue, etc. in seymour stein the lyric sheet says "it reminded me i'd been crying," but i think in the song it's "it were mine and i'd been crying." i like the 'were' one :) i've seen glasgow but never dundee. bill ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 5 17:00:35 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azrael) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 12:00:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: bring your own closet somewhere there's a party In-Reply-To: <852566B3.00506BD5.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> Message-ID: At 9:40 -0500 05/11/98, Scott Turner wrote: [With 2billion gay references in his songs, its hard to believe that he [isn't gay. [ [Are you'all sure he wasn't just walking with Isobel under the moonlight? [hmmmmm...... [ [ i'll admit, i thought he was gay, too. still, something has led me to beleive otherwise. so why can't he just be bi? i mean, you don't have to be one or the other . . . /me walks away humming " i can have both" -kerry "and my thoughts are turning backwards and i'm picking at the peices of a world that keeps turning the screws into my mind." -the jesus and mary chain +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 17:15:28 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:15:28 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Henry Thomas Message-ID: HEY! Ease up on the Henry bashing will ya! I had *such* a crush on him when I was a wee lassie (when E.T. came out) that I sat in my den in our family's Florida home....with 3 different Texas phone books i'd *borrowed* from the local library and called EVERY Thomas in them...I never found him, of course..but I gave it my all...and was grounded for ages because of the phone bill...good thing my mother can't see my phone bills now! Woooooweeeee. The perils of a child with a crush. Oh dear. Now leave him alone or i'll blast you all with my space mod-u-lator. oooouuuucccch...... beth P.S. There was also a boy in Jr. High (Keith Powell I think his name was) who reminded me of Henry Thomas, of course...I had a crush on him as well..but he never knew...he had the BEST freckles. Don't worry...i've evolved.....I moved on to spectacles....8) *sigh* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 17:19:59 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:19:59 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Oh dear ... Message-ID: I was just sitting in my labs, feeling bored, when Lisa suggests a walk to the library. Having nothing better to do, and needing some fresh air, I said okay. She was looking up books on the computer, and I, still feeling bored, was sitting at the computer next to her reading about library fines. Yes it was as dull as it sounds. So I decided to see if I could type my name on the computer, using my nose. If you've ever tried this you'll know it's harder than it sounds. So I was doing this for quite some time. Then I sensed someone move behind me and turned round to see a whole queue had formed behind me and were giving me funny looks. It was very embarrassing. They didn't say anything and I figured that maybe they thought I'd got a condition that meant I had to type using my nose or else my legs fell off or something. Who knows. Anyway, I just mumbled "sorry" and ran away. Don't you hate it when that happens. I'm always doing stuff like that - stupid things when I think no-one's looking but they are. Hmmm... Thanks to the Duke for the Bernard L tape, "Poupee de cire, .." is very sexy! Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 17:41:15 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 09:41:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Help!! (bike / blue soda / gay /bus / crush / duke / lurk) Message-ID: <19981105174115.19569.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> greetings and salutations : the bike mike was talking about : i think it might be called "raleigh vector".... gawd, i should get out more....when is the next blue soda at the poetry cafe? i'm busy with the whizzy at the moment, preparing an epic post of my adventure to philly a fornight ago...expect the post on the morrow. i always like to think the nice, shy boys are gay...wishful thinking and all that...i'm nearly always wrong so, by default, this means stuart m is probably a womanising breeder afterall!! damn!!! but i still love him. and trent from daria. and specialagent. and that cute boy from the lucksmiths. lust vs lerve. and my best friend. and the boy on the bus last night who threw me a longing look as our legs brushed against one another (mocha?). meeting people on buses during commuting hours is tough - you don't want a merchant banker witnessing a rebuke. strangers scare me anyhow. but i suppose i was a bit of a poofter give away - i was reading a book called "PINK" by gus van sant. hmmmm. i'm working on the moustache (to e, or not to e???) / moustach. (j/k) i'm not sure if i have any list crushes yet....perhaps jessica's crush - this ahren boy who isn't even a listee (probably doesn't count 'though - you guys and your rules!!!). no, i suppose i need my own. the pressure of a name.....i'll get back to this at a later stage. duke of h - please can you email me your postal address...vicky parkinson has a tape for you but doesn't have a 'puter at the moment and so has asked me to retrieve this vital info....seems the archives are down too. someone has been "lurking" at me - hmmmmm....what does this mean? (CUE ROCKWELL: "i always feel like somebody's watching meeeee, and i get no privacy - ooooh ooooh). i think actually it wasn't a person afterall - just some mainframe server somewhere in scotland....the return address was all numbers, and numbers confuse little lady p. if you're out there i'm wearing a matt grey finish, have flashing grey lights and answer to the name "tecra".... singing to myself today. little athletics....i'll race you home. pacer...just to think we were just passing time. *sigh* why can't he be mine? why can't i be his? later dawhlings, - lady penelope / padraic / monsieur gateau du wizz. ================================= On Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:56:04 -0000 Michael wrote: | | hi y'all, | | Can anyone remember the name of the bike that was around in the mid-eighties | that had a built-in computer? It had a big, thick white piece of cheap | plastic over the frame, and had a little screen and buttons that made | noises. It may even have spoke. | | | Cheers, | | Michael _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 13:41:08 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:41:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk release References: Message-ID: <3641AAF4.95009264@jeepster.co.uk> Wetzel, Jon wrote: > > I was under the impression that the masters of this were destroyed.......Are > they going to master it from a vinyl all of the masters are fine and they will be used as the source for teh album when it is re-released. someone else previously wrote: > In the article it's > mentioned that Tigermilk will be officially released by Jeepster in > January. Perhaps David Kitchen at Jeepster can confirm (or deny) this > for us? certainly, i can confirm that jeepster will be releasing tigermilk, but although we know this will be next year we don't have any confirmed dates yet. january is out of the question, it's more likely to be spring/summer, sorta april/may type thing. but then, as i said, we don't have confirmed dates yet. cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Thu Nov 5 19:36:05 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:36:05 -0800 Subject: Sinister: phwoar Message-ID: <001501be08f3$88aa7460$4411020a@rebelstrange> hey, nice post, reid, and (thanks for the kind word) I'll be the first to admit that whilst i was wondering at B&S's common humanity and modesty, i was gushing like crazy when they weren't looking, and god knows no one else could subject me to the beauty of "Photo Jenny" and co. Indeed, i wasn't able to get past the teenage gawking and sighing to even say hello to isobel, who while must certainly be a nice and 'normal' girl, is also the most beautiful thing i had ever laid eyes on......c'est la vie. and i apologize as i just saw that the last post i sent in came out in some kind of gobbledygook that must have been highly irritating, and i dont' know what i did wrong but i'll see if i can change that. Misheard lyric: in "La Pastie" i took "at the church bazaar" as "I'll be judged bizarre" which fits nicely as well... I'm still looking for some partners in cryme to start the Crushed by Isobel Coalition, unless someone can direct me to a worthy extant version of that type of group.... *PHWOAR*!!! the way she holds her cello......(i'm so bad!) and JESS if you're listening, say something. it would make me feel less lonesome.! the schlumpy one, lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From schrasj at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 18:26:56 1998 From: schrasj at xxx.com (gram LeBron) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:26:56 PST Subject: Sinister: gushing only slightly, no more harshness Message-ID: <19981105182657.25249.qmail@hotmail.com> >But none of us are on this list because the members of Belle and >Sebatian are really really nice. And I'm going to assume that >neither Matador or Jeepster signed B&S because, hey, they're just >like you and me. I agree. we're on this list because B&S means a lot to us. They are my favorite band around right now. believe me, when we were just chillin' I was freaking out, but I tried to be cool and just hang out until things became more comfortable or something. and we did talk about music some, and I definitely told them how much I liked their band and asked a few questions about details. I talked to Richard about drums and some history stuff. but I did all that after we'd been talking for a while. I was lucky to be in that situation since I'm sure most of the Athens audience would've liked to chat with them. so what do you do if you've only got a precious few moments to convey how strongly this band has affected you? I'm not sure I know the answer. I guess it's whatever you feel. >The thing is, they're NOT just like you and me. At least, they're >not like me, and if they're anything like you, I'd love to hear your >stuff sometime. 'Cause these are people who have it in them to >create perfect music. That's not normal. Not for me, anyway. aye. they aren't normal in that way. I think you get better at talking with bands you respect with time, maybe you get better at gushing? I've had the chance to chat with most of my favorite bands and I've definitely felt like an idiot before. the first time schrasj played with BEDHEAD I was visibly shaking. but that seems ridiculous knowing them like I do now. music is a weird thing that way. I'm not in one of the most important bands of our time and I've gotten gushed on before, it's strange, but in a good awkward way. I can only imagine how they must feel. >I'm a gusher, I admit. Maybe it's a good >thing that they're in Scotland and I'm in North Carolina. nah, cuz if you were in scotland then you'd have had several chances to let them know how you feel and eventually some of the butterflies would subside. not that they'd be any less magical. we knew they were here for such a short time and we were still getting over the initial shock of seeing them in real life. that makes it even easier to embarass yourself. >Remember, this is Stuart Murdoch we're talking about, a man who once >admitted that he traveled to London with the sole purpose of finding >the guy from Felt so that he could, essentially, give him the "how >much your music means to me" speech. excellent point. makes me wish I'd moved to glasgow after graduation and started hanging out in cafes... >But if I had the chance to spend as much time with Stuart M. as you >did, I wouldn't just say, "Hey, Stuart. Seen any good TV lately?" stu and isobel weren't around as much when I was hanging out. thats proly good because I could talk Stuart's ear off given the opportunity. it just must be hard when there are SO many people wanting to do that. my god, when they started with "is it wicked not to care" and stu was waiting for his back up vocal and watching isobel... and then he started singing, I thought I would explode inside it was so beautiful. anyway... >tell him (calmly) something along the lines about how his songs came >along when Ididn't think I could be *that* moved by music anymore, >about how often I've teared up over how many of his songs, perfect. I'm sad you didn't get the chance to tell him that. guess we should fly to scotland for the next show and tell him then. some imaginary friend, gram ClubSafeParking, making Houston proud. http://www.navitus.com/csp ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 18:17:30 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:17:30 EST Subject: Sinister: perverse verse Message-ID: Oh my, what has happened here today? All this talk of who is or isn't gay! So are they a couple or are they not, And which washed-up star did YOU spot? This can't be the Sinister/ Honey list! I've two more questions I won't resist: What has happened to my cheese? And where is the REAL smut and sleaze? Of course you know I'm only teasing, I actually find this all quite pleasing! I've even had my own chance to gush. Now I'll start stalking my list crush. It might be Brad, or better yet Dirk, or a quiet bunny who likes to lurk. At the risk of her thinking me obscene, I may even choose the lovely Janine. with much love to my sinister kitties, jonny the kat (far from a poet, i know it) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 17:30:24 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 09:30:24 PST Subject: Sinister: gargantuan Message-ID: <19981105173025.23657.qmail@hotmail.com> > > >some fine ass mutha wrote: > >> if any of you ladies are looking for a crush my nickname here at home > is "dirk" -robbie > >notice he said "at home". it's not just at home it's everywhere, >everyone knows about ol robbie and his "friend" >"that's okay dirky baby....let brad see what you're >packing" brad you really want to see what i'm packing, alright i'll be over in a bit >his sister told when friends come over and someone accidentally calls >him "dirk" he gets all upset and whiny and cries "i told you to call >me robbie.don't make me look like a huge porn star in front of company. >when he's not around, all his friends call him "daddy" well, i do, at >least. > >i don't have much else to say. i just felt like speaking greatly of a >idol who has yet to return my mojave 3 cd that he borrowed >about a month ago. > >-brad thanks for the kind words brad, i didn't know you had it in ya. and sorry about the c.d. i'll bring it over when i come in a "bit" isn't he the greatest guys. >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nostromo30 at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 18:32:21 1998 From: nostromo30 at xxx.com (donovan nuyen) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 10:32:21 PST Subject: Sinister: peanuts Message-ID: <19981105183221.2940.qmail@hotmail.com> xavier wrote: > > > >Just months ago it seemed I read Chloe Sevigny's interview and she also > is > >a big fan, comparing them to the Smiths. > > > > weird..cos i love Whit Stillman's Metropolitan/ Barcelona/ Last Days of > Disco....in which chloe was on the latter..in fact i was wathcing > barcelonaagain 2 hours again..im dubbing it to send to a friend...i > recomend them highly..very highly thought out...maybe that's since i > always associate with the central character, actor chris eigeman, who > plays a total bastard... > > also this is my first sinister post...until now, i have been biding my > time..watching from afar for something quasi-interesting to say..i > emigrated from the pulp in the rush of 2 weeks ago...some dual > pulp/sinister listee maade this list sound so enchanting i decided to > join..even though ive only heard century of fakers and seeing other > people from a tape my friend sent me...i like the 2 songs lots...seeing > other people reminds me of a peanuts song..i shall go buy "sinister" > very very soon...jeez im such a poser..i think what the people post on > this list is pure gold sometimes > > > Donatien ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From donovan at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 18:55:39 1998 From: donovan at xxx.com (donovan finn) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:55:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: yikes Message-ID: wow...go away for a couple days and the list goes nuts: 1) Placebo, Gomez and Whale are playing NYC tonite, at the Hudson Theater, 143 W 44th street 2) I can confirm that Evan Dando, Mark Ibold and various other rock types were in the house at the Nov 2 show, as were the aforementioned Chris Lombardi (not to mention the other 30 of us Matador types...2 of which were the target of the vicous ice-throwing incident.) 3) As has been discussed here many times, there are *tentative* plans to release Tigermilk on Jeepster in the UK and Matador in North America in early 99....I'm not really sure what "early" means. If anyone out there who has tape copies of any of the various radio sessions or the live shows, feel free to send em my way....might be something nice in it for ya...and we won't prosecute. -donovan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gnance at xxx.edu Thu Nov 5 19:14:02 1998 From: gnance at xxx.edu (Ginger Nance) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:14:02 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: i hate the pressure of coming up with subjects! Message-ID: My neuroses aside, and wow, I think this is my second post ever, I would like to disagree with the statement "it's never good to be in North Carolina." I have to defend my home state. Sure, there are lots of bad things about it, but there are good things. Esp. where music is concerned. I love living in Chapel Hill--I can go see wonderful bands play almost every night! Anyway. I was the DC show. I wanted to meet Sinister people, but I got incredible lost. Driving there was quite stressful. I almost didn't make it to the show--I was about to crawl out of the car, curl up on the sidewalk, and rock back and forth and mumble. Not really, but I was quite frustrated. My boyfriend and I were also unable to find Polly's. I swear we walked all over U Street, but didn't see a Polly's. Also stressful. Then we go to the club--my tickets were supposed to be on willcall b/c I didn't get them in the mail on time. They didn't have them. Even more stress! Guv'ner started to play. I really thought I was going to lose it. Fortunately, B&S rescued me and lifted my spirits. They were simply beautiful--I'm so glad I went to see them. I can't wait for the new EP. Someone may have asked already, but is it being released in the US on the UK date, too? Thanks for listening, Ginger :) Ginger Nance ginger_nance at unc.edu http://www.unc.edu/~gnance +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Thu Nov 5 19:21:21 1998 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 13:21:21 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Massive Attack In-Reply-To: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C90676303F4C61@EDINBURGH> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981105132121.007d5100@students.uiuc.edu> massive attack split up about twice a month. they don't like each other much. dont worry...im sure theyll be fine i missed the opportunity to see them in chicago this year ---can u feel the jealousy dmitry At 09:23 AM 11/4/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Again, no B&S Content, sorry. > >Someone just told me that Massive Attack have split up. Could anyone on the >list tell me if this is true? I'm supposed to be seeing them in Glasgow >next month. > >Cheers, > >Nhoj. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Iangstl at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 19:56:42 1998 From: Iangstl at xxx.com (Iangstl at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:56:42 EST Subject: Sinister: Henry Thomas Message-ID: > HEY! Ease up on the Henry bashing will ya! I agree! I knew Henry had it going on when I read about one of the first films he was working on as a grownup. The article said he was tormenting his co-stars in his trailer with Tom Waits' Bone Machine. I have tortured many a friend with that album: since my sanity comes first, and listening to Tom is just one of the few ways I have at keeping it. Hoorah for a celeb with taste. im new here, so hi - dawn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Thu Nov 5 21:47:02 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:47:02 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Le Chat Noir et Sebastien Message-ID: <000901be0905$d3875220$4c11020a@rebelstrange> I changed the lyrics to suit our little adventure. here goes nonsense. LE CHAT NOIR ET SEBASTIEN Half moon shone, frumpy girls in a Greyhound Far from home, oh if only you knew how.... Le Chat Noir, et Sebastien Vomit in the loos, crazy men in the bus stop But you've come much to far just to give up Le chat noir et sebastien Reading poetry under Lincoln's knee You're too poor, much too poor for a taxi Run for miles round the White House and back again Don't stop now, take the subway round... Sarah's got the key You'll get in for free Wouldn't you like to get away Bestowing a bar of Tiger's milk upon the boy who makes your apple shine, Don't be shy... And you love her tiger bonnet and short skirt "Track and Field" is so beautiful it hurts Le Chat Noir et Sebastien La Baguette's bizarre taste of vine-gar.. Wouldn't you like to get away Give yourself up to the allure of Stu and Isobel, and Chris and Neil and Mick as well Wouldn't you like to get away, Write yourself up a bunch of dirty Madlibs, take some snapshots of dead birds-- Buxom fun ********************** given, it's full of inside jokes....... lesley Jo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noelani30 at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 20:09:47 1998 From: noelani30 at xxx.com (Jessica Wright) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:09:47 PST Subject: Sinister: Re: Henry Thomas Message-ID: <19981105200947.27610.qmail@hotmail.com> yes, don't hate Henry Thomas if you all go out and see "Niagara Niagara", you will appreciate him he's actually a very good actor although, yes, kind of greasy reid, thanks for your kind words nice meeting you too -jess ------------------- "so come aboard, let's sing a lament- the world isn't round it's twisted and bent" TCS ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 20:21:13 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:21:13 EST Subject: Sinister: New Yoik - Highs & Lows Message-ID: <8023c466.364208b9@aol.com> Evenin folks :o) well, i got back from New York this mornin and can honestly say it was the most exciting holiday anyone can have. B&S were soooo good, the first night especially. I was continually warned that all NYorkers are a horrible unfriendly bunch before i went, but i have to say that almost all the people i met were incredibly nice and welcoming, that is apart from the really horrible mean person who stole my passport and flight ticket from my hotel room, grrrrrr. I moaned about it, but it was actually really exciting, knowing that for a day or two i had no proof of who i was or what i was doing in the US. Virgin Atlantic didnt help either, damn businessmen. They made me buy a new one way ticket from NY to England which cost about £100 more than my return ticket !! I also had all my insurance details stolen so god knows how im going to get back my money. :o( Take it easy people Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jamesgoncalves at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 20:43:14 1998 From: jamesgoncalves at xxx.com (James Goncalves) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:43:14 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981105204314.21229.qmail@hotmail.com> subscribe sinister-digest ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 5 20:31:06 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 15:31:06 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: it's not like i was doing anything Message-ID: i meant to write a list of the fun facts i learned before, during and after the b&s shows: 1) goon's real name is... goon. i've seen his id and it's true. 2) naughty things go on in the men's bathroom at reststops late at night, and they must be popular cause it was about 4am and there were nearly thirty empty cars in the lot!!! 3) the members of belle and sebastian are truly the biggest bunch of sweeties. 4) stuart has some truly marvelous pants. aside from the blinding silver ones, he has a shiny plaid pair that just scream scot stud. 5) chris geddes has almost the exact same pair of shoes as i do, only his are vintage and mine are from spain 6) i believe that at least 10% of the two concerts was made up of listees, and quite possibly more were there. and we're all seperated by two degrees (lorraine, i just spoke to john and he mentioned that you were in his new band, the world is joined by the sinister list). anybody in the nyc area who wants to be in my films, tell me! i'm actually filming today but i should have enough extras and everything, if all the people i spoke to yesterday show up. so time to go and do that xox megan ps - actually, this post is pretty dull. i don't think there's any smut unless you count the rude thoughts i have concerning the silver pants of luv. mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From christian at xxx.net Thu Nov 5 20:47:04 1998 From: christian at xxx.net (Christian Scanniello) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 15:47:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: we live here but we're sightseers. Message-ID: <36420EC2.90401CAE@worldweb.net> oh dear. it's tough to be the new kid. so it seems i've already committed some breach against etiquitte by quoting a duran duran song. i'm sorry...i just couldn't help it. i just purchased the best of collection that came out this week and i'm not afraid to admit that i still love it. eeek...i thought the days of fearing for my love duran duran ended after middle school. heehee. oh well. as a show of penance, however, might i suggest a pointing of your browser to www.benno.com? why? well for starters because it's a nifty swedish pop zine (that boasts a pro-b&s sentiment, btw) but because you can now listen via read audio archive to a concert by the lucksmiths that took place last month in stockholm! the lucksmiths are the finest, most addictive pop band this side of b&s. their latest album "a good kind of nervous" is quite habit forming. enjoy! and next time i try to resist the urge to quote spandau ballet.... tallyho, christian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jamesgoncalves at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 20:50:43 1998 From: jamesgoncalves at xxx.com (James Goncalves) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 12:50:43 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981105205043.15381.qmail@hotmail.com> subscribe sinister-digest ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 20:57:02 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:57:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Double Dip, Green Blackcurrant & Purple Apple Flavour!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001be08fe$d6772340$584d989e@elsato97> hiya :) Seeing as I am maybe one of the only people sat all on her ownsome on Bonfire night and not by choice either, lets cut the wee wee (?) and get down to serious being sad-ness.... well, it could be worse....I could actually do my English coursework.....hey hey how B&S is this, I put a picture of a bus on my other English coursework....YES! Stuart Gardiner, I bought a best of Sparks - IN THE SWING! yesterday for a fiver, and it reminded me of you! Aaaw :) Just thought I'd say that, even though you probably have forgotten why I remember it! Anyway, dat tall man wrote: > As for who's winning at the moment, well you'll have to wait and see. > Let's just say it's noone who won last time... Hmph, I stand a chance then! Nobody voted for meee last time :( *pout* > > While I'm here, with all these people talking about getting really > embarrassed about meeting band members, did I ever tell you about the > after-show club we went to in Leeds? Sample conversation: > Me; "Hi, I'm Stuart, I live just North of here." > Fluffy; "I'm Sarah, I come from Preston." > Mick Cooke; "Hi, I'm Mick, I'm from Glasgow." Um, actually, I seems to remeber it was Stevie :) Mick was the one you and Nick were pointing at just before B&S came from, and duly embarrased me like poo!! Heh heh! Um, was I really that boring though? D'oh! But I can't be dull, I'm lovely! Anyway!!! i don't believe that someone saw Stuart M in silvr trews AND a Smashing Pumpkins top, perhaps we have m,istaken identity? I do hope so, Smashin Pumpkins smell of poo doncha fink? Richard wrote: >I've just had the most disgusting egg mayoniase sandwich. I'm not keen on eggs really. I prefer lamb. Does anyone else >have any strong views on the egg v lamb debate? Here's one point in favour of Lamb, eggs taste cack with mint sauce. But who wants MINT 'poo' SAUCE anyway??? You can always trust me to have strong views on completely pointless things, especialyl when I'm bored. Egg Mayonnaise rules, it is not only the cheapest and scrummiest buttie about, but it is healthy and the poor hens only have to lay eggs, not be SLAUGHTERED MERCILESSLY by BLOODTHIRSTY TORIES!! Not you :) Hopefully anyroad :) Yes, but when on earth can you dip toast into boiled lamb??? HUH???? Ooh, this Sparks compilation is jolly good, I recommend you seek it out in Our Price, 5.99 by itself, or a tenner for 2 CD'z. I mentioned I got james Brown, and I'm glad I got it cos its marvellous.... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 21:11:00 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:11:00 GMT Subject: Sinister: list thrush Message-ID: <3644142f.692000@post.demon.co.uk> Well goodness gracious me, Now that the secrets of Megan's furry friend have been revealed to an astonished public, and the "does Stuart Murdoch help out at weekends?" debate has once again reared its boring head, I think it's time I wrote something smut-free for a change. Keith "Up yours Delors" Watson said: >frogs frogs Keith, as you know I wholeheartedly disapprove of such terminology for our Trans-manche pals. Being the Bohemoth of PC that I am, I insist that in future you stick to the considerably more ethical description "Gallically challenged". He also told a half-truth: >Tag will be loving it, cause as we all know he's a huge fan >of French music, like Jean Michelle Jarre, and Johnny Halliday. I do actually have a record penned by JMJ. It's very good. It's by Francoise Hardy, not altogether surprisingly. Also not altogether surprisingly, I've completely forgotten what it's called. But hey...remembering titles is for squares. I was supposed to go and see Air in Manc on Tuesday but I was terribly tired. I was secretly impressed when Richard wrote: >Dear You load of twats, You'll go far, my friend. Finally, Peter Miller, please never mention the word eels again. They scare me. It's not Freudian, in case your sick twisted perve minds are putting two and two together and making five. It was that scene in "The Tin Drum" that did it. Horrible slimy things. They must surely die. Love tag xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 21:23:39 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:23:39 EST Subject: Sinister: any top 10 lists for the year being gathered yet? Message-ID: <32980b96.3642175b@aol.com> Definitely for me so far: Mercury Rev "Deserter's Songs" Belle & Sebastian "The Boy With The Arab Strap" Pete G. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 5 21:24:51 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:24:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: A cornucopia of responses, all written with my nose (and my fingers) References: <01BE08B1.8B75A850.keith@qss.co.uk> Message-ID: <364217A3.A0638B26@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Keith Watson wrote: > Mick McMick, you would be wise to believe the young lad Leonard when > he says that B+S did indeed play Turn Turn Turn at the church, we've > got a tape of it for a kick off - or at least, it's a tape of me and > Chris singing along to the hymn but strategically substituting rude > words along the way. Alright, alright, I concede, there is no shadow of doubt in any of the cockles of my heart. And I concede to you, Chris, as well. Ohp! I just noticed a shadow of doubt in the cockle that's sort of a bit to the left and at the bottom...yes, that one. Hm, let me see...there, I've got it now, my cockles are doubt-free. > Is it possible that Andre may not have seen Stuart on Hyndland road at > all, and it was perhaps Duncan Goodhew, Telly Savalas or maybe even > Yul Brynner (Oooon may be able to sort us out on that one). As far as > I'm aware they're still in America, the word last night from Anne I > believe was that the newest megastar in the B+S camp, DJ Doctor Divine > "the Spinmaster" Symington was coming back on Saturday the 7th from > America, as is Mick from whom the date the 7th came completely > separately. I'm sure Ian will be able to confirm this one... so unless > Stuart came back separately from all the rest, I think it's basically > definite that Andre actually saw someone else who was famous and bald, > such as perhaps Errol Brown from Hot Chocolate. First of all, isn't Yul Brynner dead? Maybe what Andre saw was the *GHOST* of Yul Brynner, who had recently become a large Gnashing Kumquats fan. Sorry but I'm not sure if that's how one spells cumkwat, but perhaps if I spell it differently every time I say it, sooner or later I'll get it right. Anyway, as a little birdie told me, the rest of the band was at the Cornelius show last night, except for Stuart M and ISOBEL! So perhaps she also went back to help with "mixing"? All sorts of bad porn-like mixing lines come to mind at the moment, but I'll spare you all from those thoughts. a Duran Duran fan quoth: > since this is my first post, i must provide the obligatory "that > question has already been answered a thousand times" question. it's > not even a very interesting question....but i'll ask anyways. 'cause > i'm curious and that's good enough for me. here goes...in the sessions > version of "seeing other people" (the slooooooow version), are stuart > and isobel also trading verses with stevie??? listening to it again > last night in traffic i could've sworn that one of the verses was sung > by stevie's fine baritone rather than stuart's dulcet tenor? am i > mistaken? does it even matter? prolly not. Stevie's in there, you're right. They each take a verse, and if memory serves me well it goes Stevie, Stuart, Isobel, and then all of them together. And finally, in honor of Robin's utterly amusing story, I present to you an Ink Polaroid, written entirely with my nose, without the use of a "backspace" or "delete" key: yyeere i am, my baccckji is huuuuunched ovfer anjhd my neckj hyurt6s. obviouuskly i'm typinjg with nhose,, but it iis p-ainfull so i'lol stop now. Hm, not bad. Reminds me of when I was very very little and my parents used to sit me in front of a typewriter, and tell me to type a letter to my grandmother. Of course at this age, I couldn't spell, read, or write without a typewriter, much less with one. But it was quite fun to go banging away at those keys. After I was done, my parents would remove the paper and try to find actual words that I had accidentally written. I recall they were very amused once when I wrote something like "fart." Now you see what I had to work with? It's no wonder I turned out like this. It reminds me of the scenario where you sit an infinite number of monkeys (not Monkees, note you, because there're only four of those) at an infinite number of typewriters, eventually one will write one of the great works of Shakespeare. Needless to say, I wrote no Shakespearian plays, nor any sonnets. Hungry like the wolf, /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goodforyoo at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 21:59:52 1998 From: goodforyoo at xxx.com (milla |razorkandy|) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:59:52 GMT Subject: Sinister: b+s+flimzes Message-ID: <19981105215955.8886.qmail@hotmail.com> hello all leel kittens, I just wanted to tell you all aboutthe flim I made in New York over the summer. It isn't finished yet and given the current cost of postproduction it might never be, but here goes.. It is called Thirsty and is a journey from North to South in Williamsburg and manhattan looking for a cigarette and a nice cold ice cold glassa waterr. there is only one character in it, played by a lovely and androgynous friend who is called Pingel (sounds like...Pingu) and that character is called Photo Jenny. She doesn't speak and is only in two scenes. She has blond hair and wears a grey t-shirt with a border drawn on round the neck and sleeves in black marker pen. She stands in the middle of the street looking unsure whether or notto look straight at you, but finds the courage when she's looking down a paper telescope, then she puts it down and stares and a grin flashes across her face like a kid who has had a mind-expanding shock and mightlaughmightcry. Then finally she turns round really fast, dropping the telescope and runs away towards the Williamsburg bridge as fast as she can, tripping over her long blue skirt as she flees. Later we see her in the evening, on the fireescape sipping a glass of water and grinning. The film is just a load of sunny mood-capaturing location shots really. I wondered if anyone else had been inspired by b+s in a similar way? Or what do you think Photo Jenny looks like? anyone know when the next bluesoda is (sorry for being too lazy to look it up on the site.) Seb shall we go this time? Jonnyyrpomeismahv'lous keep at it yer K-rayzee Kat. MILLA razorkandy ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ There is more than glass between the snow and the huge roses ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 21:02:06 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 17:02:06 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Megan may not babble, but I do Message-ID: <3642124E.6020CFF@bigfoot.com> > I finally found out what an arab strap was(Quit a laugh to was). So now im > debating weather that is an arab strap on the cover.anyone can help me? > Oh, yeah. That's an arab strap all right, being used on poor, unsuspecting Chris "Camel" Geddes. It is remarkably stick-like, sure, but arab straps have changed through the years. Where once they were used to trap camels, they're now used almost exclusively to trap Scotsmen for use for an international musician slavery ring. The album cover is a shot of Chris' capture that came after a 4 day chase through the north of Scotland. The look of defeat on his face is really pretty tragic. I personally think it's kind of tasteless that they used that shot for the cover. But that pretty much sums up Belle and Sebastian in a word: "tasteless". I'm pretty amazed, actually, that in the two shows I saw, wee Chris had PLENTY of chances to escape, but didn't. That Murdoch guy must be even more evil that any of us could have expected. One of the best friends a guy could ever ask for said: > so cast > my vote for the entire list. well, perhaps, with the exception of > indiarub, who has clearly never seen north carolina in october. > AMEN! It's actually been a sub-par fall around here, and it's still so gorgeous it makes ya giddy. Ask Ginger...she knows. By the way, if there are any other Chapel Hillians and/or UNC-CH students who still need a copy of Tigermilk and the sessions, let me know. It's that whole mailing thing that keeps me from taping it more often. > Charistian wrote and a firedance through the night, > christian. - Duran Duran lyrics!! you can't say that!!!!!!!!! > You can and you will. All the cool kids do. You sit in the back of the bus, chew gum in class and you always, ALWAYS end your email with a Duran Duran quote. Damn...where have YOU been?! That's all I have time for. Lucky you... Lonely in your nightmare, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oxygen at xxx.edu Thu Nov 5 22:11:10 1998 From: oxygen at xxx.edu (sad tomato) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 14:11:10 -0800 Subject: Sinister: candida Message-ID: <199811052211.OAA06489@uclink.berkeley.edu> now. i am reading the plethora of digests i have received from you guys recently, and i am only on #456. so if i repeat something, please ignore me. two days ago, scott said: Okay, so the scientific name for "thrush" is "Candida albicans"- nasty oral fungal infection yada, yada, yada. Well, the scientific name for the common vaginal yeast infection is also "Candida" something or other. And, I'm no doctor, just a smutoglogist, but I am almost positive that you can get thrust from (here comes the smut) going down on someone who has a yeast infection. Thus and therefore, making railings, well, i think you can use your visual imagination....... and, as a latinist, i would like to say something. i used to be on the pulp list a long long time ago, and we were talking about how really sad that candida's parents named her candida. a yeast infection! well, anyway, in latin, "candida" is a diminutive that means something like "sweet little girl." though, i cant find my dictionary right now, so i am not explicitly correct. for those old romans this was a nickname of sorts. as it turns out, candida is not too bad a name for a person. well, maybe if you were living centuries ago. oh yeah. i am not afraid to say that i have had yeast infections, as most women have these at some point or other. the reason i am saying this is because my boyfriend never got thrush, and maybe you dont get thrush THAT way. enough smut for ya?? a girl obsessed with names, robin. Blood oranges grow well in Florida, but they frighten American women. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Cebudo at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 22:06:41 1998 From: Cebudo at xxx.com (Cebudo at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:06:41 EST Subject: Sinister: any top 10 lists for the year being gathered yet? Message-ID: oh, since you asked... elliott smith - xo sunny day real estate - how it feels to be something on neutral milk hotel - in the aeroplane over the sea (i'm not sure if this came out late last year or this year) belle and sebastian - the boy with the arab strap shellac - terraform unwound - challenge for a civilized society (i'm not quite sure when this came out, either) sloan - navy blues cadallaca - introducing cadallaca robert pollard - waved out quasi - featuring "birds" versus - two cents plus tax blonde redhead - in an expression of the inexpressionable tortoise - tnt come - gently down the stream the spinanes - arches and aisles dirty three - ocean songs oh my, i almost forgot... sonic youth - a thousand leaves, syr 3, and silver session there was also some other things i liked, too. (mudhoney, jon spencer blues explosion, etc.) and i haven't gotten the new archers of loaf, cat power, 764-HERO, silver jews, or stereolab yet, either... hey, you asked. andrew. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Thu Nov 5 22:13:47 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 17:13:47 EST Subject: Sinister: Megan may not babble, but I do Message-ID: <8b8343d0.3642231b@aol.com> << > so cast > my vote for the entire list. well, perhaps, with the exception of > indiarub, who has clearly never seen north carolina in october. > AMEN! It's actually been a sub-par fall around here, and it's still so gorgeous it makes ya giddy. Ask Ginger...she knows. By the way, if there are any other Chapel Hillians and/or UNC-CH students who still need a copy of Tigermilk and the sessions, let me know. It's that whole mailing thing that keeps me from taping it more often. >> Bah. I sure have, and you know what? I've seen better. It was just a little joke at NC's expense, I hope you realize. Face it, the Triangle area is not one of the most beautiful places on the East Coast. Sure, there's lovely trees in their autumn colors, but they'll be gone next week to make way for another strip mall. gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Fri Nov 6 00:29:36 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 16:29:36 -0800 Subject: Sinister: annoying tape question Message-ID: <001001be091c$89b18780$4011020a@rebelstrange> sorry to sound like a spaz, but i'm desperate to hear these radio shows that have been spoken of, and the La Poupee song as welll........(grr!) is anyone willing to make a copy for me? that would be just SOOO good......i have plenty of blank tapes to use up..... wizz, you crack me up. trent from daria......hehe i tend to think that shy sensitive guys are gay too, or at least hope, i dont' know why , because i'm not a guy, i just have that weirdness going on.....i like guys who are slightly femmy and who sing in high voices, and wear cute pantaloons, and write sexually ambiguous lyrics with highly empathetic female characters. If i did ever go for boys, Stu m. would be the one......oh well, he's too old for me anyway. and just for the record, i think stu and isobel are just special friends. i'd like to think so. it creeps me out when people in bands have relationships. not that it's any of my business anyway..... lesley Jo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 5 23:28:42 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 23:28:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: What is the point, thought Sinister, of a list crush if noone knows , about it? In-Reply-To: <000001be08fe$d6772340$584d989e@elsato97> Message-ID: On Thu, 5 Nov 1998, Sarah wrote: > > Seeing as I am maybe one of the only people sat all on her ownsome on > Bonfire night and not by choice either, lets cut the wee wee (?) and get Well I did manage to get to the humungous firework display tonight in town, but noone I was with wanted to go to the fair afterwards so I'm back here being bored and lonely... Guy Fawkes tried to blow up all the politicians in the country. He failed. Why are we celebrating? > Stuart Gardiner, I bought a best of Sparks - IN THE SWING! yesterday for a > fiver, and it reminded me of you! Aaaw :) Just thought I'd say that, even > though you probably have forgotten why I remember it! Anyway, dat tall man > wrote: Like I said at the time, Sparks RULE and I recommend them to anyone. But I'm still waiting for you to see the light and appreciate just how good Rialto are... > > As for who's winning at the moment, well you'll have to wait and see. > > Let's just say it's noone who won last time... > > Hmph, I stand a chance then! Nobody voted for meee last time :( *pout* Plus ca change? We'll see. For now I'll just tease you a little more by saying that 2 people are leading on 4 crushes each, one of them is from England and the other from mainland Europe. More votes welcome... > > While I'm here, with all these people talking about getting really > > embarrassed about meeting band members, did I ever tell you about the > > after-show club we went to in Leeds? Sample conversation: > > Me; "Hi, I'm Stuart, I live just North of here." > > Fluffy; "I'm Sarah, I come from Preston." > > Mick Cooke; "Hi, I'm Mick, I'm from Glasgow." > > Um, actually, I seems to remeber it was Stevie :) Mick was the one you and > Nick were pointing at just before B&S came from, and duly embarrased me like > poo!! Heh heh! Um, was I really that boring though? D'oh! But I can't be > dull, I'm lovely! Anyway!!! OK, so I wasn't really with it when I wrote this. Yes, it was Stevie not Mick that we were talking to on that occasion - Mick was otherwise occupied ;-) But seriously though, when you get the chance to talk to a member of B&S, what exactly can you say to them without embarrassing yourself? I certainly haven't managed it yet... You can't really just say "Hi, I think you're great, will you go to bed with me?" can you? Right, I'm off to see if there's any parties going on in people's rooms in this place that I can crash. Better get some sleep at some point though - I've got a free dinner (wiuth free alcohol! Woohoo!) tomorrow night and then I've got to get up at 6.30am on Saturday to go to Nottingham... Welcome to the first train to hangover central... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 00:05:33 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 19:05:33 EST Subject: Sinister: get your own crush! Message-ID: <3ba89c28.36423d4d@aol.com> In a message dated 11/5/98 12:51:03 PM EST, wizzcake writes: > i'm not sure if i have any list crushes yet....perhaps jessica's crush > - this ahren boy who isn't even a listee (probably doesn't count > 'though - you guys and your rules!!!). no, i suppose i need my own. > the pressure of a name.....i'll get back to this at a later stage. not to come across as too defensive (although i know i am - this is what comes of trying to write a paper on how people go about finding intimacy while reading my email), but i don't need any competition with my sweet ahren. i've been trying to be obvious yet subtle...you know how it is with crushes, it's always everyone but the crush who knows what's going on. so i have almost the entire store knowing that i could jump ahren at any minute, and ahren probably being totally oblivious to my crazy lust. but i'm putting in two votes for ahren, if anyone cares. it's probably not even allowed, but dammit, he is my crush, and earning that title should get you something other than longing stares (oh god, this is sounding so pathetic). although he never posts, i met matthew crooker at the pre-concert meet, and he seems like a sweet boy. so i think, if my vote is limited to this list, that i'll declare him my crush. hm, i guess he'll be surprised. oh well, i'm already blushing, and besides, he lent me cab fare. if that doesn't get you crush status, i don't know what does. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From withnail67 at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 00:18:56 1998 From: withnail67 at xxx.com (Stephen Boyle) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:18:56 PST Subject: Sinister: nyc meetings Message-ID: <19981106001857.29336.qmail@hotmail.com> Just a quickie to tell all of my unexpected Scottish troika on Monday. Had dinner at a small restaurant and met Lloyd Cole. Spoke of B & S said he thought they were cool, but was off to see Sandra Bernhart play. Very nice and shy chap, though. Secondly, Eugene Kelly was a great surprise. And third, obviously B & S. Where do B & S fans go out in NYC. Sorry for such ultrageek comments, but have been up 20 hours and am a bit fried. Please let me know about any places in NYC or meet-ups. By the way Lloyd COle said he would probably be playing at the Bowery Ballroom on Dec 21st. Wasn't the Nov 2nd show tremendous? Cheers all!! Steve ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sjacob at xxx.edu Fri Nov 6 00:27:07 1998 From: sjacob at xxx.edu (sam jacob) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:27:07 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: stuart and isobel? Message-ID: Hi everyone, I have been lurking for a while and have been sort of shy about possibly saying anything, but this stuart/isobel relationship has me intrigued... My name is sam and seeing belle and sebastian in concert (in chicago) was the BEST show i have seen a quite a while... It is funny because just a week or so ago my boyfriend and I were talking over dinner how stuart murdoch might NOT be gay or sexually ambiguous at all, and it was sort of an epiphany. I know in theory that it is important to distinguish a singer/songwriter from the narrator of a song, but i have to admit i often forget... I have always found some of their songs sort of equivocal. I guess they might just be about sexually confusing times... Songs like, "Seeing Other People" say so much, but they do it subtley, which is why I like Belle and Sebastian so much... Anyway, you sinister elder listees who definately know the skinny on all things belle and sebastian related (your knowledge astounds me sometimes!) might be able to back up my hunches. Stuart M. seems like a very private kind of guy who doesn't like dealing much with the hounding reporters or indelicate probes into his personal life. I guess the only people that really would know the salacious details of this stuart/isobel affair would be some of his close personal friends (which some of you seem to be!). I guess i will have to keep on taking cues from belle and sebastian songs. ace as they are... thanks, sam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From krista25 at xxx.net Fri Nov 6 02:00:49 1998 From: krista25 at xxx.net (Krista A. Garcia) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 21:00:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Lone Star Thomas References: <19981105200947.27610.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <36425848.2B09@earthlink.net> >yes, don't hate Henry Thomas >if you all go out and see "Niagara Niagara", >you will appreciate him >he's actually a very good actor > Henry Thomas actually lives (or maybe lived) in San Antonio, where I >go >to school. He is, in these parts, something of a washed up celebrity. >He played in a band called the Blue Heelers for a while, and he hung out >with the San Antonio pseudo-art crowd a couple of years back. My only >encounter with him was three years ago when he arrived (unannounced) >with >the Blue Heelers at a Chirstmas party. I remember nothing about him, >but >my best friend did whisper, "Hey, there's that gnarled kid from E.T." >This provoked much laughter on my part. > HEY! Ease up on the Henry bashing will ya! I"m so pleased to see this turning into the Henry Thomas list. It's the most discussion I've seen of the poor hasbeen since the love-bug bit me in 1994. And no, don't ease up on the bashing--Henry really is a greasy, gnarled, washed-up, San Antonian. (Plus he has no manners, he exhibited poor stalkee etiquette at the show by telling me he had a crush on Isobel). But deep down I think he knows it and he's so damn earnest that I just can't help but love him. Always root for the underdog--that's my motto. >I'm sure Stuart Murdoch inspires exactly the same passions >in young girls the world over. It's from Fred and Judy >Vermorel's book, "Starlust: The Secret Fantasies of Fans". >Has anybody got this book? I've only got an extract, but >it's bloody good. Yes, yes, yes! It's one of my absolute favorite books, but that's probably not suprising coming from a stalker. Unfortunately, my copy's in a storage locker in Portland, OR. If I only had it here I'd be quoting it like mad. I've been seriously considering trying to attempt some sort of 90's version. There's a great fantasy bit about Pete Townsend performing oral sex using his nose. Priceless! Oh, and has anyone seen those horrible ads (probably only here in N.Y.) for "A Christmas Carol" on Broadway starring Roger Daltrey as Scrooge? They're something else alright. --Krista "Some people call it a one-night stand, but we can call it paradise" scaredy-cat stalking and other pointless pursuits http://members.tripod.com/~scaredy_kat/index.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 01:07:09 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 20:07:09 -0500 Subject: Sinister: teeshirts, crushes and life. ahh, how all-emcompassing.. Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981106010709.00677748@mail.interlog.com> dear sinister birds and bees, i've been so enjoying all your posts about the b&s shows you've been to in the past few weeks.. of course i'm a bit envious, but hey - deb, i'll chip in for gas when you drive to the west coast for that series. and using the refund money from my ticket, i did see miss polly jean harvey and the rachels (oooh, it was *so* good) so it wasn't a total loss. i do wish henry thomas had been in toronto though. hey! i got my belle and sebastian teeee-shirt in the mail the other day! ooh, how excited was i? of course i immediately wore it school, trying to flaunt it as subtely as possible just waiting for someone to run up to me and say, "oh my god! you like belle and sebastian!".. plus i have the badges too - i pin them to the cuffs of my jacket and slyly try to capture people's attention with them. anything to attract belle and sebastian fans, you know. study at stow - hear hear! shelley wrote: >dear people, > I am totally off this list cos I just got 100 emails in two >days which is far too much for someone with a life but I feel I have >learnt a lot anyway. aww, well that's a little unfair, isn't it? i think everyone on this list has a "life", don't you? judging from the people i've met from sinister, we're all very well socially adjusted. or maybe not, but you get the point :) besides, i think it's just a matter of love -- i *gush gush * love this list and gosh darn, i make time to read each and every message.. err, or at least i make time to delete them from my inbox. >Subject: Sinister: any top 10 lists for the year being gathered yet? ahh.. do i sense a rerun of "So, what's a list of all your list songs so that we can make a big giant list?" ;) jessssica firmly stated: > but i'm putting in two votes for >ahren, if anyone cares. it's probably not even allowed, but dammit, he is my >crush, and earning that title should get you something other than longing >stares (oh god, this is sounding so pathetic). well, if jessica can do it, then i'm putting in a vote for my sweetie in nova scotia. he loves belle and sebastian too so that must mean something. and if that's not allowed, then i'll put my girl vote towards jessica and my boy vote to mike, who i'm not sure is on the list, but was at the toronto meet before one of the famous shows-that-never-happened. if stuart murdoch can be ambiguous, then so can i. hee. i'm doing miserably in my accounting class - a big fucking BOO to the business world. *sweet smile* october leaves cover everything, teri xx ---- i'm asking you to peek: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Essexdog5 at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 03:42:11 1998 From: Essexdog5 at xxx.com (Essexdog5 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 22:42:11 EST Subject: Sinister: Of silver pants and make-Up Message-ID: <8f399baa.36427013@aol.com> Lardboy Miller wrote: >>I like Stuart M's Babylon Zoo pantaloons. I bought some delightful zippy silver vinyl trews in Canal Jeans for ten bucks two days before the show - Les Rhythmes Digitales would be so envious. I shall wear them with my kids' size Study At Stow tee and mucho make-up... I'll look SO queer. Rah! >>I also like the idea of Elliot from "E.T." being at the New York shows. I'm only sorry he wasn't joined by Elliot from "Pete's Dragon". I was disappointed that Chloe Sevigny wasn't there (or was she?), but I spotted Ian Svenonious "out of" makeUp looking very sharp and big-haired indeed. Well, that's quite enough cosmetics references in one mail methinks... Stephen, sucking in his cheekbones in a poor imitation of Nick Rhodes. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bluvelour at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 04:16:39 1998 From: Bluvelour at xxx.com (Bluvelour at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 23:16:39 EST Subject: Sinister: boston celeb spotting, some questions Message-ID: <43999711.36427827@aol.com> anyone happen to catch the dambuilders' guitarist eric at the show? i think he was there alone. i was starstruck but too shy to say hullo. a question: how would one go about getting her picture in the list photo gallery? another question: how would one go about attempting to locate an import of the new ep thingie? okie, i gotta go walk my doggie. her name is jupiter and she has to potty. thanks gallons, kids... xo, cindy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 04:33:50 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 23:33:50 EST Subject: Sinister: yikes Message-ID: In a message dated 98-11-05 14:07:45 EST, you write: > (not to mention the other 30 of us Matador types...2 of which were > the target of the vicous ice-throwing incident. Gosh, I'm so glad it was corporate "hey-kid-sell-your-soul-to-the-devil?" label scum, and not some nice fans of the band :) Oh! but wait!! Fans of the band probably wouldn't have been TALKING LOUDLY during the set, would they? Thus showing a really bad upbringing and terrible lack of concern for both the band and those around them? Probably not. Actually, my apologies -- had been a long weekend -- weeks actually, starting with Philly. Culminating in finally hearing the most gorgeous music and getting sooo happy, only to hear people constantly babbling.... Well, sort of apologies. Kind of. No, nevermind.... I had really good aim on the second volley :) Shot... score! still giggling, --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 04:33:01 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:33:01 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New listee speaks! In-Reply-To: <199811052245.WAA22004@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Dear all, This is is virgin posting, so forgive me if any of it is 1) off topic, or 2) off the case. I got my introduction to B&S from John Peel playing 'The Stars Of Track And Field' late in 1996 (it was the last time I heard him play something that really made me spring out of my seat, but Peel's like that; there might be another epiphanous moment in 2002 if he's still kicking around). Anyway, on Radio 1, the B&S baton was also carried for a while by Stuart Maconie (a man of no little taste who once hung around with Elvis Costello's dad, just because he was in the area for a few pub gigs). I recall he played 'Dylan In The Movies one Sunday night and that was me sold on B&S. I bought '...Sinister' soon afterwards. So then: to some debate. So far, reports of B&S' live activities have veered between evangelical praise and utter revulsion. Are they getting any better live, then? (Try to be objective here...) If so, could one of you US listees send me a tape of a gig, or some radio sessions? In return I can send you some (unspecified) cool stuff from England. I'm at Flat 6, 1 Dante Road, London, SE11 4RB. Lastly: the plug. My band, Matinee, now has a whistles and bells website. Please visit it; form crushes on our guitarist and listen to our not un-Smiths/B&S-like Real Audio sample, 'The Stargazers'. (Actually, we're having trouble with it, so I would be obliged if you could just tell me whether it works or not.) The site's at www.members.tripod.com/~the_embankment That'll be all then, save to say that if any of you are thinking of checking out The Byrds (a recurring theme on the list lately), don't overlook 'Flying High' the new Gene Clarke retrospective. Country rock to melt your heart. Martin Horsfield +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Kayemess at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 04:58:13 1998 From: Kayemess at xxx.com (Kayemess at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 23:58:13 EST Subject: Sinister: yikes Message-ID: <4ba724f4.364281e5@aol.com> Re: those who TALK LOUDLY during Belle and Seb sets... I have the following to say: a- Going to a show, any show, is as much a social event as it is a musical experience. I, for example, was at the Nov. 1 show with my true love, who I had not seen in over 4 months. Granted, we were not talking loudly, but we were indeed talking between songs. You have to accept that, at any given show, there will be talkers in the audience. This does not mean that they are not "true fans" of the band or what have you. It simply means that the show experience, for them, is more than just listening to the music. At a Belle and Sebastian show, however, I do not condone loud talking during the quiet music. That's damn rude. b- I have less of a problem with loud talkers that loud singers. The people standing behind me insisted upon singing the words to every song in their less than pleasant voices. But maybe that's what "true fans"do. Maybe they show everyone how much they like the band by displaying their propensities for lyric memorization. As far as Matador goes: a- If Matador were THAT corporate a label, Belle and Sebastian would probably not be distributed by them. Period. I won't go into indie label politics here, but I'm sure working with Matador entails a lot less of the corporate scum motif than, say, Virgin of David Geffen or something. b- I have it on good authority that most of the "scum" who were not "true fans of the band" from Matador were there because they WANTED to see the band. First off, I was a part of the post-show Matador party, and nobody could stop raving about how great the show was. Second, if Matador employees didn't like Belle and Sebastian, they didn't have to go to see them. Matador artists don't get free tickets to NYC shows anymore. Thus, the employees of the label probably had to shell out the cash just like the rest of us. Finally, if you're still opposed to the idea of record company workers being at the same show as "true fans," bear in mind that the nature of the record contract is that somebody, somewhere within the structure of Matador records liked Belle and Sebastian enough to distribute them. It might be a lot harder for "true fans" in the US to get B&S albums if they were still being distributed exclusively by Jeepster. Or any other smaller overseas label for that matter. That being said, I wanna hear more about the ice fight. How did I miss that? Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From erinlew at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 06:53:42 1998 From: erinlew at xxx.com (Erin Lewis) Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:53:42 PST Subject: Sinister: things to do in NYC on Saturday night... Message-ID: <19981106065344.4812.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi kids, This is a shameless plug for someone who deserves it. If you are not seeing one of the other million bands at the CMJ festival in New York on Saturday night, please go see Mr. Mark Kozelek (of Red House Painters fame) play at the Fort in Greenwich Village. It's a tiny place behind the Sidewalk Cafe, and the address is 94 Ave. A. His showtime is 11 p.m. He usually honors requests too, if you speak loud enough for him to hear. (A suggestion from someone who knows: REO Speedwagon or "Warpigs".) Just out of curiosity, did anyone on this list go see the Lucksmiths play at the Poetry Cafe because I posted shamelessly about it? Please e-mail me your success story if so. -Miss Erin, who wonders if anyone here follows orders *Confidential to Donovan Matador Finn*: I will gladly send you some "secret" sessions if you promise to send Miss Chan Marshall (aka Cat Power) some candy or a happy lightbox (or lemons?). Her live show was sooooo disappointing, and it had Bill Smog written all over it. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Fri Nov 6 09:03:22 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:03:22 Subject: Sinister: l'amour, l'amour, l'amour... Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981106090322.2e575528@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hello girls and boys, Our lovely Sinister web site is down. All the listees are crying in the night, because they can't have a look at my photo in the portrait gallery. Some wicked guys will certainly trying to convince you that Sinister is out of order because Honey has just put my photo on the site. That's not true! Actualy, I did not send my wee photo to him, so I am not responsible for that disaster. It's not my fault. So, nobody wonders whether I am be gay or sexually ambiguous? I am lucky because I had saved all the photos of listees before the crash (bonjour StLucy...), so I can look at them all day long. My dog asked me to be on the photo too. But if I accept, my donkey will by jalous. Donkeys are really jalous animals! So I think I will have to take a photo of me with my dog and my donkey. I also have a red fish but it is a very shy one, it does not like photos. If Stuart Murdoch was a red fish, he would look like my red fish. By the way, I don't know if my fish is a male or a female... How can I check the sex of my wee fish? Mayby it is gay? The favourite Paul's Verlaine poem starts like that: J'ai peur d'un baiser Comme d'une abeille, Je souffre et je veille Sans me reposer, J'ai peur d'un baiser. This poem is called Poor Young Shepherd (an english title, as you can see). Should i give you the end of the poem? Everyone should learn french only to be able to understand french poetry. And Poupee de cire poupee de son too :) Kisses to the bees and to the listees, Philippe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nostromo30 at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 09:25:02 1998 From: nostromo30 at xxx.com (donovan nuyen) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 01:25:02 PST Subject: Sinister: anita is gonan get her kicks to-night Message-ID: <19981106092502.17268.qmail@hotmail.com> "By the way : have any of you read 'Breakfast at Tiffany's'? I just read it translated into Spanish, so I don't know which English word Holly uses to describe her depressive state of mind, when she plays the guitar sitting on the fire escape ...?That is Malea in the Spanish version." Oh yes, she says she has "the mean reds"... not to be confused with "the blues," but a different, scarier feeling altogether. And the male character says (boringly) "There's a word for that, it's called 'angst.'" I think I prefer "mean reds." I might also add, since my friends and I happen to dub breakfasts at tiffany�s, the king and i, and oliver!( it sucks, but the songs are great)... whilst we played goldeneye and WCW wrestling..holly says that the blues aren�t like the mean reds..the latter being when you get all worried over something but you dont know what...is the breakfast at tiffany�s book good? did the movie neglect any memorable characterization?..i worry over this like this ever since i happen to have read oscar and lucinda as it was in the theaters and only rent it last week....the book is fab but the movie was very utilitarian. a modest success... Andre wrote : >Listen to this! I just saw Stuart M (who just got back from the US to cut the new EP) walking down Hyndland Rd, and I must say: OUR ELF BOY WITH ROSY CHEEKS IS NOT THE SAME ANYMORE! Maybe B&S's newfound fame in the US finally got to him and B&S decided to go arena rock, but Struan changed his looks drastically. Besides the aforementioned silver pants, he was wearing a long-sleeved black shirt with a silver star and the word "zero" written on it! And here comes the worse part: STRUAN SHAVED HIS HEAD!!! this is so great..i only happen to read this now.and had the oppurtunity to watch this gradual realization satire unfold instantly...we have a baby alexander pope here listee wrote: Is there anything to do in this place? Or in Escondido/San Marcos....i'm really looking for comic book or record stores. this got me to thinking..do any of you read comic books? i think they are the misunderstood melding of the painted picture and the painted word. Especially if you are a lazy git like me. I remember someone saying that the U.S. has only 2 things to say that they created, comic books and jazz, and that both art forms are shunned. wait a minute, i got that quote from a comic book. blast. Donatien ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 10:11:25 1998 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 02:11:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: This is happening without my permission Message-ID: <19981106101125.7159.rocketmail@send1d.yahoomail.com> Hello youse, Well, everyone's gone barmy. 3000 mails a day and I'm never touching cottage cheese again in my life. Struan and Isobel an item ? Bugger. What chance now of The Rough Guide To Caledonian Queercore publishing my piece on B&S ? This is hard on the heels of The Economist rejecting my Larry Grayson profile purely because of my enthusiastic use of the word 'foreskin'. In context, for God's sake, in context. I'm packing in this biog lark. It's a mug's game. Meanwhile, I continue to be stalked by former members of Huggy Bear. Not, I suspect, as worrying as being stalked by former members of the Khmer Rouge or the Baader-Meinhof Gang, but unnerving nevertheless. (For our younger readers, Huggy Bear were a troupe of anarchic minstrels of ambiguous sexuality - rather like B&S - who caused something of a rumpus in the early part of this decade by upsetting noted Mancunian ignoramus Terry Christian on national television and by releasing a stream of shamelessly unlistenable 7-inch singles. I think the Khmer Rouge were on a Postcard compilation and the Baader-Meinhof Gang put out a couple of EPs on Mute.) They sit opposite me on the Tube between Finsbury Park and Vauxhall, making fierce eye-contact and taking feverish notes in pocket-sized John Menzies pads. I do hope they're not intending to co-opt me into their next BoyGirl Revolution. I didn't much care for the last one. To those listees who miss Timbaland Popkiss; he is alive, well and drinking in Peckham. Mike (about as easy as a nuclear war). _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Fri Nov 6 10:16:52 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 05:16:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: phone home Message-ID: <3642CC4A.213B@earthlink.net> i, too, have to agree that elliot has turned into a pretty good actor. i very much liked "niagara, niagara" and he was in another one i saw with scott from kids in the hall that was pretty good. i can settle this whole stuart/isobel thing right now. when i was in athens, i snuck backstage and walked in on them making a porno. they were going at it and chris was filming them and stuart d. was directing. he kept going "no no no stuart.....that's complete pish. turn her around" and things like that. i talked to stuart d. during a break while they powdered up stuart m's, uh, thing, and he said that he got tired of taking pictures and making movies with words. he wanted to move on to the real thing and film what he has to be around 24/7 on the bus. and stevie was standing there plotting something. i tell you, that guy's gonna be the catalyst of world war three. my list crush is henry thomas. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 10:45:48 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:45:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: 667, The Neighbour of the Beast Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B004261C2@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Ello me breetush chums, Yikes! We went to see The Exorcist last night. Well the big hard residents of Chorlton did. Wimpy little ginger saps stayed at home and hid behind their sofas. The Exorcist was very good though. I liked it. Especially the washed-out 70s look and the tense atmosphere. It wasn't especially scary on the whole (well, obviously I wasn't scared) and there wasn't much laughs and the most horrible bit was when they did some medical procedure on that possessed girl. (Very unpleasant. Do they still do stuff like that?) At the end of it all, I certainly hope I never get possessed by an evil demon. Which is I think the message that the film was trying to convey. The icing on the cake was Big JB standing up at the end and announcing to the audience that his least favourite people in the whole world were students. That's what happens when you keep a young man who's just spent several hours in the pub away from a toilet for too long. Then we went to a "Concept". Concepts sell beer and play loud 80s music. They don't however play J-Pop, which is exactly what some club called "Ultra-Kitty" was up to in Manchester on Monday. Sadly, I only found out about it on Tuesday so I never got to go. But it does give me the chance to mention that the Japanese pop kids are probably the coolest and best dressed pop kids in the world. And they all like Soft Rock which is probably the coolest and best dressed pop genre in the world. On the TV front. Well in the coming series of Stars In Their Eyes there's going to be a very special guest. I'm not mentioning names or anything, but watch out for the magic words "Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be Robert Palmer". Stephen Pastel's coming to Manchester in December. The 11th it is and he's taking along some of his friends and they'll be playing a selection of their favourite songs at "Night & Day" cafe. I'm very, very excited. Have a lovely weekend everybody, Keep the faith, The John PS It's Stuart David +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 11:00:39 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:00:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Parrotesque Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C31@COR-EXG1> I'm a god fearing twat. As Monday Poem nominee for this coming week, guess which jobbie-head has gone and taken Monday off on leave. Marvellous. My Moment of Truth challenge for this weekend is to find someone in Plymouth with e-mail. Now call me a dunce and all, cause basically you'd be right, but if I found an internet cafe or some such sad hideout of the socially retarded, would I be able to send my poem from there ? Anyways, enough of that drivel. Bill Moss (Is that like oral thrush for birds:)) wrote : in seymour stein the lyric sheet says "it reminded me i'd been crying," but i think in the song it's "it were mine and i'd been crying." i like the 'were' one :) I prefer it as "were" as well because that's how we talk round these parts. In fact there's also a lyric in Chickfactor which leads me to believe that Stevie is in fact a wannabe Devonian. I bet he's got stickers of sheep on the back of his guitar. Christian wrote : oh dear. it's tough to be the new kid. so it seems i've already committed some breach against etiquitte by quoting a duran duran song. i'm sorry...i just couldn't help it. i just purchased the best of collection that came out this week and i'm not afraid to admit that i still love it. eeek...i thought the days of fearing for my love duran duran ended after middle school. heehee. Don't apologise, some of us round here are old enough to appreciate the finer points of eighties music and Duran Duran are NOT one of them, but never apologise for holding an opinion. Oh and how can you possibly talk of etiquette round here when the most popular topic of conversation is womens furry front bottoms and their infections. rebelstrange at ldd.net (Lesley J. Miller) Peter, is this your list love child ? Reid wrote : The album cover is a shot of Chris' capture that came after a 4 day chase through the north of Scotland. The look of defeat on his face is really pretty tragic. I personally think it's kind of tasteless that they used that shot for the cover. But that pretty much sums up Belle and Sebastian in a word: "tasteless". You're being fairly liberal with the truth there me boy. I heard Chris's death was as a result of an argument with Isobel outside a public house in Woolfardisworthy over who got to wear Struans pants after she had lured him into her web of deceit and "done him" in the function room with the snooker cue. Have you noticed that Isobel is holding the same instrument of death in her right hand on the inside cover ? Enough of this jolly banter chaps, if anyone does hold the answer to my impending e-mail problems then mail me privately. Ta nicely. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 11:41:07 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:41:07 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: l'amour, l'amour, l'amour... In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19981106090322.2e575528@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Message-ID: Dear listees ... Oh, Philippe, ce n'est pas posible ! Est-ce que tu fais de la telepathie? When I was a pretentious teen believing me and my friends the smartest kids in the world because we were the smartest kids in sixth form at my school and my boyfriend in those days had the same hair as Inspiral Carpets members, we used to say we had to learn French to read Baudelaire and Rimbaud original words...And now you suggest everybody should learn French to read French poetry in French, obviously! Je n'ai pas besoin de quelque photos, Philippe est mon paramour XXXX Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Fri Nov 6 11:35:29 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 11:35:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Seven and the ragged tizer Message-ID: <002566B4.003F474D.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear fistees, You saw me standing by the wall corner of a main street, is there something I should know? Cos the reflex is an only child and he's waiting in the dark, but I've got a lovel y bunch of coconuts so lets go down the strand and ave a banaaanaa! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 12:14:44 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:14:44 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Send in your photos (isobel / frog / gay / crush / scanner / polaroid / hug) Message-ID: <199811061208.MAA17852@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> You have been busy havent you? Hundreds of mails and I've got to write this now and go eat something while about 20 still sit there. Anyhow, I've been having an off-list conversation that I think must be brought to your attention: > > >Isobel has got green hair. > >We want proof of your frog eating. > > If you can send me a photo showing Isobel with her green hair, I will send > you the bones of the frogs as a proof :)) > > Cheerio, > Philippe So I set this challenge to all you lot. Get to it then. On the Stuart 'I thought he was...!' debate - I never thought he was, mainly because the first I heard of him was 'The State I Am In' in which his brother is gay, so he isn't see? I empathise - everyone seems to think I am too. In fact I've twice had to resort to 'admitting' I am to stop them endlessly going on... What else..? The return of the list crush vote. I didn't get any last time but I was a newbie. And there's no way you lot can see a photo of me as I don't have any photos or a scanner with me. In fact only one person out there has seen so much as a photocopy of a photo of me. I know who I'll be voting for. I'll sigh (sigh! yes, sigh!) off with an ink polaroid: This one is taken in Dan's bedroom. In the centre of the picture is Sam, who's come to appologise to Dan, who isn't there, for screaming when he hugged him. This is because he's had some kind of fit and was sore all round there. Hugging him now is Natalie. Natalie has been encouraged to 'down' half a pint of vodka & coke by us and is now obsessed by hugging anyone who is holding her wallet and telling them she'll love them forever for looking after it. Eddy cruelly threw the wallet to the unaware Sam and now he's trying to extricate himself from Natalie's grasp. Ok, I'm going home now, XXXXXXX WeeJay James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 12:53:54 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 04:53:54 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: jessica & ahren up a tree / the streets of philadelphia Message-ID: <19981106125354.6493.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> hello - this is quite epic.... firstly, a few weeks ago i posted to the list looking forward to meeting jessica (of which there seemed to be many many listees)....finally the correct jessica came to the fore: ******************************************************* "the last thing: a crushboy update. ahren has brokoen up with his girlfriend (yay!) but is a big commitment-phobe due to her excessive clinginess. i still feel a fire in my loins when we speak. and tonight at work, i just couldn't stop touching him (oh god, how pathetic)..." - Blissxo at aol.com, Tue, 3 Nov 1998 23:06:45 EST ******************************************************* aha! this is the jessica!! and ahren!! the jessica i had hoped to meet in philly but i have yet to tell my sorry tale of planes, rental cars and boo-hiss no-play bands....i knew i was not going mad. but this jessica is probably not from philly anyhow....lady p just got her wires crossed. i think i am finally in good enough condition to share my philadelphia experience with you my fellow listees. jamie cola and i attempted to get to london heathrow in good time to catch our flight to new york....anyhow, the tube broke down at acton town and we were left sitting on the platform eating our curds and whey, smoking cigarettes for up on thirty minutes until we decided we were tempting fate and so arose from our arses and defiantly left the platform in favour of the street where we hoped to hail a cab to see us back on our way. alas! every cab had been taken and none of the local cab firms would have one for quite some time...stressed out and panicing we eventually convinced some halfwit to drive us to terminal three (that was the title of the irish runner up entry in the 1984 eurovision song contest eurotrash kids!) and we boarded our plane bound for new york city!! oooh the excitement was mounting....we had arranged to meet up with jamie cola's mysterious lover, fopstar, and the lovely t-bone & desirable specialagent (all of whom had flown in from san francisco) in new york city that very evening. we landed in nu yuk and caught ourselves a cab into manhattan. the driver was all into us being there getting kicks and, when approaching the queensboro bridge (absolutely *NO* tunnels mister!!,) he asked if we wanted to hear an authentic american "rawk station". of course mister cola and i collapsed on the torn leatherette seating in a fit of giggles as the first "rawk" toon to grace our eardrums was none other than "where the streets have no name"....manhattan skyline was pure magic - we were reminded of a movie scene for each of the twinkling lights we saw, we let the windows down and took some photos at fifty miles per hour, our heads dangerously close to decapitation but careless and high on the smell of a new town and the expectation of so much. we partied until four or five first at some awful venue with a cute punk outfit performing then onto some bar where we drank and we smoked and called out each others names over the swing din and buzz of laughter and conversation. and outside in the cold clear dry night. on thursday morning i was harassed telephonically by my host's room mate, a mister van d, who had a thing for irish boys. threatening to "come home and ravage me" was i am sure was only a half serious threat, one which excited me as mister van d was, as they say, "easy on the eye, sharp as a bobby pin". before any such catastrophe occurred i was rescued by mssrs cola and fopstar who picked me up fom my chelsea pad in search of nourishment both culturally and gastronomically. in search of the quintessential new york bagel (yeah!! america!!) we found ourselves instead in a random gourmet situation where we savoured the delights of dining al fresco beneath the warm glow of heat umbrellas in the garden of a quirky greenwich restaurant where one might expect to see the chef take a butcher knife to the maitre d'. afterwards we headed over to little italy in a vain attempt to intercept specialagent and t-bone at chez bigben but instead were distracted by endless purchase scenarios (america!!! consumer heaven!!!) and keanu reeves sightings on broome street. that night the fantabulous host j glammed it up with lady penelope and h at the chelsea pad prior to hitting the wonderful *surface magazine party held on the eighteenth floor of a warehouse a few streets away on the chelsea piers to be hosted by none other than fopstar (among others). carriage to the eighteenth floor was via industrial elevator where perhaps one hundred revellers huddled together as if annihillation were imminent. vodka flowed like evian once inside, flashbulbs, drinks, schmoozing, design speak, invitations to further events were issued, manhattan portage bags EVERYWHERE (sick of them), flashbulbs, specialagent paying lady penelope the attention she deserved...ah memories: but dawhlings, is it fair to have given us the memory of what was, the expectation of what could be when we must suffer what is? *sigh* a select few returned to the chelsea landing strip and then onward we ventured for sushi and drinks where eventually the crowd dispersed leaving only specialagent and lady penelope conversing intensively with abandon. crossing the street and stumbling into another all-night bar (yeah!! america!!) drinking belgian beers, telling truths and smoking much too much. the following morning i phoned mister quentin crisp and asked him to have sunday lunch with me a few days later. we agreed to meet at a diner in the east village. I then went off to greenwich to have lunch with fellow listees babyblu rory and the lovely linda in moustache where i indulged in bland falaffal and could not even have a cigarette...bah! america!! to ease my mind of worry the lovely specialagent and divine t-bone walked into the establishment much to my delight and amusement. at three o'clock i arose and ventured - alone - to thirty-fourth street to pick up our rental car / Belle & Sebastian philadelphia shuttle and signed the papers. once seated in what, to most americans would be you average station wagon but, to lady penelope was a FOOKING MONSTER and i instantly had the fear. we were going to die in this machine with the gears on the steering wheel column (did you ever hear the like????), MISS belle & sebastian and be headline news within hours: "five kids die in pop-frenzy carnage - clueless irish driver blamed". i quickly jumped from the car and demanded that one of the overall sporting "officials" give me a quick once over with the MONSTER. hand brake didn't exist, steering wheel on wrong side, doors automatically locked when the car was in gear (sinister - you ain't going nowhere baby)....debacle. however, i rose to the challenge and managed to navigate my way through midtown manhattan with a bead upon my brow with the help of the following mantra: "must see belle & sebastian, will see belle & sebastian". I got to the chelsea pad where mssrs fopstar and cola were in attendance and we were soon graced with the presence of the dawhling specialagent. plans to pick up the remaining member of the entourage, tiffany, from brooklyn were abandoned when it was disclosed that she was, as we spoke, venturing towards manhattan in a cab. and so it was at a service station on the corner of tenth avenue and twenty third street that we planned our route to philly with the help of a new york road map. Finally at six thirty tiffany appeared and we hit the road. (yeah!! road trip!!). lincoln tunnel for what seemed like an age and then open road, fab toons, road tolls (bah! america!!), some sTRong poot (not indulged in by the ever cautious driving-like-a-demon lady penelope) and the lovely specialagent issuing directions as i drove. the tension was mounting - five delirious globe-totting bunnies off to see their favourite band, faces a-glow with spirit, butterfly-tummied in anticipation. driving through bon jovi land and getting lost off the freeway, getting five conflicting sets of directions from a group of petrol station customers, did an outdoor pee pee thing behind the petrol station and looked at the orange clay soak up the bubble bubbles....bought the classiest lighter (miniature corona bottle) - YAAAAH! TACKY AMERICA!!! great stuff. so we decide to follow one set of directions provided by one who seemed tooned-in so to speak. playing specialagent's mix tape. tired eyes and blurry headlights. boo-hiss! tiffany asleep. end up in an industrial estate...begin to lose faith when lo-and-behold THE FREEWAY again!!! YAAAH! AMERICA!! so at this point we're confident that we're going in the right direction at least; with every sign that said "PHILADELPHIA" a cheer would errupt from within the FOOKING MONSTER and five kids would be all a-glow again, heads a bopping, pigtails a-flying. we drive on this crazy-ass concrete thing for what seems like an age, ascending slowly...we realise it's a bridge and, at the moment we reach the apex, the philadelphia skyline unfolds. more cheers! more heads a bopping, specialagent twiddling on the spaceship dashboard knobs and we have local radio playing some cheesy pretenders song but we don't care and our proverbial pigtails fly again. more poot. lady penelope is tempted but decides instead to continue with the steady flow of parliaments....specialagent lights it for lady penelope and the filter is moist from his lips when the first drag is taken. close and snuggly feelings overcome lady penelope. jamie cola takes some pictures... and then we get lost in the labrynth that is philadelphia to a clueless irish boy with no downtown map....chaos abound, more cigarettes. "need gin, need gin" goes around and around inside the head of lady penelope. we find ourselves dangerously close to the venue, we *know* we are nearby but, instead, we end up on a dead end street lined with cute houses with verandas decorated for halloweeen a week early. reminded me of being in california last christmas where, to me, every house looked like it was lit up to resemble an airport landing strip. i turn the FOOKING MONSTER around and drive to a convenience store where specialagent jumped from the car and found a heaven-sent divine man who told us to "follow me" and practically escorted us to the venue. nobody seemed to think that by saying the venue was opposite the bus terminal would help. landmarks and all. easily identified landmarks. hmmmmmm. we know we are at the venue because of the enormous line of indie kids...we must have looked like kerb-crawling belle & sebastian fans in a station wagon to those of you who were outside around nine fifteen. (i forgive you for the stares.) we parked the car and dilliberate whether or not to bring our cameras....no is the general consensus although tiffany decided to hide hers in her smalls. heh heh. we joined the masses outside. an age passed. specialagent and i returned to the car where we had some poot. i became paranoid. we got inside and hit the bar. diet coke for lady p. we met tweeb0y from the tweekitten cutie club chatroom. i had auditory hallucinations. everyone ordering drinks at the bar was saying my name. oooooh. went to the boys room and splashed water on my face. returned to the crowds it happened again. music they call northern soul...like in shepherds bush after elliot smith before B&S eventually came on. shouldn't it be called eastern soul when it is played in the states? hmmmm. i let that thought slide away like the ice cube slipping down my throat. looking for daisy sporting listees. and then tweeb0y approached in a panic. "have you heard the rumour?" "rumour?" "one of the girls has had to be taken to hospital...the band might cancel". disbelief. felt hot and sweaty. walked away from tweeb0y and found specialagent and tiffany on the left side of the balcony. specialagent was still wearing his parka in the heat. the man has a high heat threshold i observed. Lady P: "erm did you guys hear the rumour?" Specialagent: "uuuuh?" LP: "it seems like the band will cancel because one of the girls is pretty ill" S: "uhhh no, that is a TOTALLY belle and sebastian type rumour...i wouldn't expect anything less at a show they put on." LP: "yeah probably." we chatted about other stuff almost refusing to believe it is a possibility that the band wouldn't play after everyone had travelled so far, audience and band members (london to new york san francisco back to boston). specialagent dropped his drink. we had to get away from the ice. we went downstairs. we stood just behind the sound desk and looked at the stage as chris came out. alone. i'm not feeling good. i hear my name.... the announcement. a boy cried nearby. i am shocked. like really shocked. like i can't accept this. some fooker shouted out "we're going to kill you". i know how he feels. lots of thoughts going thru the mind of lady p. "is it really that serious? is this the type of event that could make the band say it wasn't worth it and break up? was "the girl" okay?" there was a complete lack of information and endless amounts of speculation. another girl cried. eeeek. so i'm standing there with specialagent and i just can't believe it. chris left the stage and the audience gave a sort of "oh well" round of applause. people started to file outside. staff are the rudest i've seen anywhere and i've been to many dodgy ones! complete lack of courtesy, no sense of customer service and zero compassion for those who had paid cash on the night and were leaving the country / eastern seaboard a few days later. whoever suggested the venue as suitable should seriously think again before putting another show on there. gorgeous place but the worst set up ever. a complete fiasco. on the advice of tweeb0y we go to a club called shampoo. awful awful awful dreadful place....someone tried to charge me five dollars for a diet coke. but fopstar met miss gay philadelphia. this post is much too long. apologies. we decided to cut our losses and get out of philadelphia ASAP....we followed tweeb0y in his prized vee dub ("HELLO!! like it's the ONLY orange beetle with black hood in philadelphia") to the freeway when we headed back to new york like five broken and sorry tinkerbells with broken wings. at 4 am we tried to get a motel room in a place called "sleepy meadows". specialagent and fopstar got the room for fifty dollars and when we went around to the room, the driver (of a beat up white car which was circling the complex before) was knocking on the window of what was to be our room. we went back to the office where fopstar and specialagent tried to get the money back in vain. the guy in the car came in behind them and explained that he was just trying to get his jacket which he left in there a few hours earlier....hmmmm. so this seemed a reasonable explanation at 4am and so we drove back around to the room and before we even entered we decided that this place was too dodgy and we would more likely than not have: (a) our stuff stolen (b) throats slashed (c) our only ticket out of new jersey hi-jacked. back to the office where S & F once again tried to get a refund. the guy refused at first but then offered to give half the money back if the guys "just, you know, want to take the room for an hour". so our two cohorts just crease up and the manager finally gives back the cash and we went to a DENNYS for some fud. so we were in denny's under the way-too-bright lights eating at a table in the smoking section opposite a table of unruly types who were making a mess and who then left. the staff were (playfully i hope) kicking the proverbial shit out of one another.....bizzare goings on....AND THEN four big ugly men in deerhunter type jackets (who would most probably give barmaids a hard time) walked in along with a young boy, a deerhunter in training. they walked up to our indiepop contingent and looked at the mess left at the booth opposite. looking at us and then at the mess he said the following which made me quake and my tiara shake: "that's a fucking mess...pigs wouldn't leave such a mess. i'm gonna kick the asses of the assholes who left that mess...i'm not fucking sitting there" and then walked away, thankfully. in his infinite wisdom he obviously thought it was us who had left the mess. hmmmmmm. best let sleeping dogs lie i siad to myself. i went to the bathroom to pick the veggie burger from between my pearly whites only to be interrupted by fopstar who ran in urgently. "p, we have to leave, our lives are in danger...those guys have just made some nasty comment about jamie cola". gawd such drama. so we pile into the FOOKING MOSTER and speculate that those guys were speed freak hunter types indoctrinating an eight year old..... fopstar drove for most of the journey back and i snuggled next to specialagent for a moment in the back....and then was asleep. lady penelope awoke in a deserted times square at dawn. why, we thought, was toilet paper hanging everywhere. "ah, the work of art terrorists" we speculated. it turns out it was ticker-tape from the celebrations of the night before when some important sporting thing happened. we drove over to brooklyn and bought some fresh bread. heading back to manhattan we drove accross the brooklyn bridge and stopped at a lay-by right on the bridge itself and took some photos..... we parked the car next to battery park and smoked some poot while looking at the statue of liberty far away in the bay. returned the car and slept for the sunny afternoon. i am still pissed about the show. not playing even a few songs was a total cop-out. stuart david could even have done spaceboy dreams and made a thousand souls feel better about the shite state of affairs. okay someone was ill. not just someone but amazing isobel who plays her instruments so well and has the voice of a honey-bee on a summers day. "just one song" someone shouted out at chris. "i'm sorry" he said. "pish" is what is say. collectively my friends and i lost a lot of money we don't have. we just love the band. the experience as a whole was certainly interesting, but what was meant to be the reason of the trip turned out to be one debacle i won't get over in a hurry. anyhow, bleesed art thou. padraic / lady penelope / monsieur gateau du wizz. _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Fri Nov 6 13:00:57 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:00:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bumpowder, sneezin and snot.# Message-ID: <002566B4.0046BB66.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dear Freaks, wHY DON'T YOU ALL GO OUT AND GET JOBS EH YOU BUNCH OF EVIL MISCREANTS. YOu should take a long hard look at yrsleves. Do you think it's clever eh? I was prison for stealing cars, It taught me a lot, about stuff that matters, about your mates. And NONE OF YOU are MY mates. How could I trust any one of you in a strip search situation? Think about it. It's not my fault I'm how they made me arent I eh? BUGERFLAPSTITCOCKARSEWANK, see? It wasn't me who wrote that, oh no!!! It was them, the things in my past. Dark things, mainly. Sometimes I don't know which way to turn, I feel all dirty and sly but then I sudenly feel graceful and free like a little bird on the wing. la la la la. CAn anybody help me? Can you fuck cos if you come anywhere near me I'll stab you in your EYES!!!!!!!!!!! rEGARDS RIchard Healey xxxxx Her NAme his Rio and she dances in my mind................. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From O.M.Hall at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 13:15:08 1998 From: O.M.Hall at xxx.uk (Oliver Hall) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 13:15:08 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: We were sitting on the sofa the wrong way round.... In-Reply-To: <199811061046.KAA08879@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hello peeps, I'm really scared because I've only just joined the list(!!!!). I hope you can make me welcome, and make me feel less abnormal for having my obsessions with B&S!!! ---------------------- Oliver Hall University of Exeter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 12:38:04 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 05:38:04 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Boo Unlimited Message-ID: Thanks for the bus story Neil. What we need is more bus stories. And more cheese. My attempts to become a less fat slug mean that I don't eat much cheese these days, so I rely on tales du fromage from you lot to keep me going. As usual the Guardian has a number of Sinister friendly articles today, like a piece about Beck, a history of the Moog, and an article about A&R people: "They're narcissistic coke fiends with no interest in music" Is this true Katrina? Also included is the revelation that Ron Davies is a fan of the Manic Street Sweepers and the Super Furby Animals. Anyway, I was on the train last night, glancing shyly up from my copy of Exile and Kingdom and brushing a stray strand of hair from my forehead, when I thought to myself "How shameless of Philippe to lobby so blatantly for list crush votes!". The merest glimmer of a frown clouded my adorably boyish good looks for a split second, before I returned to gently humming Francoise Hardy and Isaac Hayes songs, and picking biscuit crumbs from my cardigan. Kevan The Lovable Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casio at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 13:58:29 1998 From: casio at xxx.com (Tony Zito) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:58:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: anita is gonan get her kicks to-night In-Reply-To: <19981106092502.17268.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <199811061356.IAA10424@bottlerocket.com> At 04:25 AM 11/6/98 , donovan nuyen wrote: >worried over something but you dont know what...is the breakfast at >tiffany�s book good? did the movie neglect any memorable >characterization? hmph. The film simply neglects the memorable characterisation that Paul -- you may know him better as George Peppard -- is a poof. I love it when a plan comes together. yrs, t. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 14:03:39 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:03:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Rock Family Twee Message-ID: <199811061400.OAA14726@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Hello again Hey, you know how on New Year's Day 2000 domestic appliances are going to go nuts, and the simple act of switching on your toaster is going to vaporise a city in North Korea? Well things have started going screwy already. The other day I set my video to record "Fort Boyard", channel 5's exciting new action quiz show featuring Melinda Messenger and Dirty Den. However, for some scary technological reason, the video now thinks it is the year 2020. Imagine my surprise when I played back the tape and found the following... Voiceover: And now on BBC52: Rock Family Twee. This week John Peel investigates the turn-of-the-century Glasgow indie-pop scene... John Peel (evidently speaking through some kind of Stephen Hawking speech-sythesizer thingy as he must be about 100 by now): Of all the bands who set the world alight at the end of the twentieth century, perhaps the most curious were those jingle-jangle troubadors known as Belle and Sebastian. With their winsome strumming and ambisexual lyricism they were truly a shambling conundrum, wrapped in an enigma, shrouded in mystery. Poised on the brink of global success , they decided to release their potential crossover single "Jenny is a Sad Librarian" as a seventy-three track gramophone cylinder, available only in Surinam, and promoted it with a twelve minute gig onboard a ferry bound for Dunoon. As their fanbase finally lost patience and converted en masse to a shadowy cult lead by Stephen Pastel, the members of B&S scattered to the far corners of the world. But where are they now....? <> (A man decked out in Armani and expensive sunglasses sits behind a vast desk in an executive office. Every five minutes he goes to the bathroom and returns, sniffing suspiciously. It is Stuart David. He has cultivated a mid-Atlantic drawl). Listen, you better make this quick, I've gotta sort out a deal with some shmucks from McDonalds who wanna do some kind of merchandising deal to tie-in with the new movie. Belle and Sebastian? Leaving them was the smartest move I ever made. What a bunch of losers. Of course, I don't say no when the guy arrives with the royalty cheques, but _really_. Selling lies to the boys with the old dansettes? Spot on. At one point I wrote the cruddiest song I could imagine - Paper Boat - and they _still_ bought it. That paid for my first Limo... I've got 20 of them now. After the band split I started up Treehouse Studios, and we knocked out Gregory's Girl II: This Time it's Personal. It broke all box-office records in twenty states. As you know, it's turned into quite a profitable little franchise... we're currently in production on the next sequel: Gregory's Girl VII: The Nightmare Continues, in which Clare Grogan comes back from the grave to wreak revenge on Gregory who decided he liked the footballing chick more after all. We got a script by that guy who did Scream 13... we're, like, putting all those horror cliches in a kinda postmodern context, and with some cute Scottish accents! That's the twist! Sorry, gotta go... time is money, asshole! (Cut to a mystery underground bunker, somewhere in Dumfriesshire. A man is clad in combat fatigues, his face obscured by a tartan bandana. It is Chris Geddes). I am not Chris Geddes! I refuse to accept the name given to me by English oppressors. You may now call me Maccaiighghhhgh X. The Dumfries Resistance Brigade is dedicated to the overthrow of the Sassenach Police State by any means necessary. We only agree to this interview if it is conducted entirely in Gaelic. I deny I was ever part of this Belle and Sebastian you talk of. (Cut to the Gugenheim Museum in Bilbao where Sarah is putting the finishing touches to her latest world-conquering exhibition) Yeah, right, well B&S, yeah it was groovy for a while, I mean I think we really upset some conventions there for a while, some of it was really kind of post-faux-naif, you know, really quite radical in a kind of post-Hirst kinda way. But really, painting was always my first love, darling. I mean, I just like to explore different media, it's essential for my personal, like, growth you know? I'm currently working on these silk screen prints of, like, lost Sarah records bands? Everyone loves it. Have you seen my series of 14 Iced Bears in magenta and green? Keep it quite, but I think the Saatchi's are interested. You gotta go? Right well see you at Pharmacy, darling. Mwah, mwah... (Cut to a taxicab in Leytonstone. Isobel is the driver) If you see that fucker Murdoch you tell him that he still owes me three months worth of maintenance for little Belle and Seb. I'll get the bloody Child Support Agency onto that bastard. Last time the bairns saw their father was 2005... he's poncing around in his funny hats, and I'm working three fucking jobs just to keep the kids in new shoes! (Cut to Glasgow Cathedral. Stuart Murdoch is wearing Bishop's robes) Hello, my son. Well, I don't really like to talk about the old days... It was a youthful indiscretion, shall we say. Archbishop Cliff has been very understanding about the whole thing, he's been very helpful. Yes, even after the ,erm, public lavatory incident. It was all a terrible misunderstanding. Now I'm putting all my energy into serving the Lord. I do bring out the old acoustic guitar for the occasional rousing chorus of Kumbaya, though! Keeps the spirits up, you know! I say, young man, would you care for a chocolate finger? Those are very attractive silver trousers you are wearing, by the way, remind me of a pair I used to have. Do you mind if I stroke them? Ah yes... very nice. Isobel who? (Cut back to John Peel) Unfortunately Stevie , Richard and Mick were unavailable for comment as they were touring Butlins Holiday Camps under the name "Sebastian and Belle" (the name was changed for legal reasons) with Chris Leonard, Elliot from ET and Chloe Sevigny making up the numbers. The highlight of their set is a three-minute Jive Bunny style megamix of all the songs on Tigermilk. Next week: The full torrid story of the Andorran Gloomcore scene. _________________________ Stay pressed, Stevie Trousers xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 14:58:32 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:58:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Scared of Exeter. Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C33@COR-EXG1> 27 years man and boy (mostly man you understand) I lived in Exeter, and never in my life have I heard of Oliver Hall at the University. Is that the tin-shed behind the Northcott Theatre ? Whatever have you to be scared of ? We're a perfectly civil bunch of axe-wielding, foaming at the mouth type folk. B&S obsessions are a prerequisite of joining the list as are Roger Daltrey haircuts and a liking for cottage-cheese. Oral thrush is optional. The only abnormal thing about you sonny-me-lad is that you chose to come and spend three years of your life in Exeter. Go to the Jolly Porter on St Davids Hill next Friday and meet the Duke. He might even lend you a copy of his much talked of round here book "Jungen Voolach" an essential guide to Swedish barn dancing circa 1827. Still no offers of help on the e-mail front....shame on you. Adrian.x.x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 15:31:25 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:31:25 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Scared of Exeter. In-Reply-To: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C33@COR-EXG1> Message-ID: Hey! What's wrong with going to Exeter ? I just spent there three weeks of my life, and spent most of the time in Exmouth and some other places at the seaside, but I love it! The most romantic chapter of my life started there, five years ago , in a trashy club named The Cavern in those days, the only chapter of my life deserving a song...too far from daily conflicts to deserve a B&S one, fair enough. So Oliver, good luck with Exeter! You won't regret to spend three days of your life there. Kisses and cuddles to all Devon lovers.Devon is great! Especially clotted cream or whatever it is called and cottage cheese. Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 15:53:39 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:53:39 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Exmouth Parade Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C35@COR-EXG1> Aranzazu wrote : >What's wrong with going to Exeter ? Anyone want to do a top ten ? Frankly I could do a top 1,000. I'll start you off. 1) Exeter sucks my will to live. >I just spent there three weeks of my life, and spent most of the time in Exmouth and some other >places at the seaside I can only assume you took a wrong turning near Brissle (Bris-tol) somewhere. Around this time last year I moved back home from six months living in Exmouth. It was a short time later my doctor placed me on anti-depressants. >in a trashy club named The Cavern So you may well be familiar with the Old Dukester then ? I'm glad you called it Trashy..it sucks. >Kisses and cuddles to all Devon lovers.Devon is great! Especially >clotted cream or whatever it is called and cottage cheese. Oh lordy I've stumbled accross the Westcountry Tourist Board mailing list by mistake. I'm off for a long weekend before Splat gets here and rips me legs off. Love you all you miserable swine. Adrian.x. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Come to Devon. It's shite but Sainsbury's have got a 'buy one get one free' offer on Clotted Cream" Westcountry Tourist Board. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Nov 6 15:59:52 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:59:52 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Unsubscribing from the list Message-ID: List mummy says: the next person who sends an unsubscribe message to this list address, failing to read the footer on every one of these messages, the notes they got when they joined, and the WWW pages (erm..), will be subjected to two weeks' of afternoon teas with Augusto Pinochet and Mrs Thatcher. If you EVER want to unsubscribe send your mail to "majordomo at majordomo.net". ***NOT*** this address 'ere. Please everyone on the list now take note too, for when you have to jump ship. honeymummy xxx P.S. Cosier and rambling mail follows, I just had to vent my spleen because no-one wanting to leave will read a long mail. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Nov 6 16:01:37 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:01:37 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: 7204 fibre-optic angel Message-ID: Hiya bunnies, Phew. This scrapbook of a mail was compiled over a good few days as I can't keep up. I hope it's not too dull. Thank you for everyone who posted reviews of the US concerts - it makes a cheery change, except when I get wildly jealous, and then feel wildly unjustified as at least I didn't drive 5000 miles to a gig only to find it not happen. To all those who went to Philadelphia and Toronto only to be disappointed, and then had to read all these spiffing reviews, I don't know how to say it other than I know the band doesn't feel good about it either. Your time will come! In the meantime reward yourself little Sinister badges for your brownies uniforms with a Red Cross symbol on them for being brave little soldiers. I'm also very very pleased so many people got to meet the band - aren't they something? I don't know how they got to be so nice, I think David and Katrina put something in their tea. Thank you paragraph number two goes to everyone who signed a "get out of bed" card for me before the Washington gig, including a bloke with a Scottish accent who might have been wearing silver pants at the time. I do hope so. I will get better soon I promise (I promise) and then we'll all have beer and sandwiches together at No.10 Downing Street. Anyway Peter Killer wrote re. "1968" by France Gall: > I can't remember > whether it's that album or the other one, but she looks > bloody awful on the cover. Like a deflated Diana Dors. Yes Peter it's that one. The great and dearly mourned Tim Hopkins (newsters do a search in the archives for his mails, you won't be disappointed) once taught me concerning 1970s soul LPs, that the worse looking the cover, the better the content therein. I would extend that to 60s French Pop, and of course, purple crimplene flares, which usually conceal a smashing pair of thighs. That nice Carrick said: > ... got to the Supper Club to get Michele's extra tickets ... at which I emitted a low grring sound in my lower throat, because they probably had "honey" and "linda" written on them in secret service disappearing ink. The trials of life. Oh well. Mr IndiaRubberman said: > but searching the archives is a pain...I get terrible DL > rates to the site Well first off, let me say that the Sinister WWW site is down just now, like I said in an earlier message, so it's damn slow just *now*.. But anyway, no-one told me there were speed problems before - could other people let me know (privately) if this is the case when it's working again? The search itself is crude I know, by which I don't mean it keeps bringing up smut, although chances are it will, but that it's homemade and therefore a bit crap - I can't even make scones never mind search engines. But if people are *generally* having speed problems to my site please let me know. Trying anything between 7pm and midnight UK time will inevitably be slower as this machine also runs the department's backups, and they win. I'm always very tickled to hear that a lot of the crowds at the US gigs are dressed "cool" for B&S gigs; I'm imagining 300 US listees sitting reading this looking suave and sophisticated, imagining we're doing the same over this side of the Atlantic. Little do you know we're all sneekily wearing polyester drip-dry shirts, purple checked half-mast trousers and bicycle clips. I suspect if we all got together for a gig in the Falklands you might be afraid to talk to us. Why hasn't anyone mentioned that the main feature of the new Mercury Rev LP is the presence of a "bowed saw", which makes the whole thing wonderfully Ed Woodesque; mind you they might have had one all along, my MR credentials are as patchy as my knowledge of the effects of blind bat fever on Colombian peasants, so I've probably gone and embarrassed myself, and should go and get a cloth. Did anyone know that Spring from "Here Come The Double Deckers" was the lead singer for Aswad? I bet anyone who's old enough and doesn't get out enough to remember the program knew that already. And I have a tiger just like Tiger's. What's the consensus Audrey, on whether anyone taped Wee Chris on the radio? I'm looking for things to do while in my frozen time capsule, and Chris talking about his soul brother socks sounds right up my street. And Lesley Miller, that was the longest and most intricate crush mail I've ever seen on this list; some of the band read the list sometimes (and post to it :), so I guess Isobel might find out sometime soon :) Keep your tiger ears on... but I didn't know there was such a thing as a "non-sexual crush" and a "high school crush" - I'm going to start drawing a diagram of mine. Mind you, I think I've got a crush of whatever type on Jamie Tuesday Poem, and I've brought my yoyo. Gosh I'm sorry this is going on and on: Gram, the french B&S sound bloke is called Gerard and certainly for the UK gigs he did the talky bits on Dirty Dream from the desk (with a grin on his face). More later when I get further down through your sumptuous succulent mails.. the honey who was paul xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 16:51:32 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:51:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fireworks, Love, Haiku.... Is this what they call "the blues"? (entry for the "longest post" competition ;-) Message-ID: Oh, It's you... I was just checking. That WAS a long post from "le Gateau de Whizz" wasn't it... I'm thinking that even "prolific" Reid has met his match. Come on in, the kettles on. Do you want a coffee, or maybe something stronger, eh? ;-) A coffee and a "wee dram" it is, then. Have a seat, rest your legs, get comfy. I warn you now, this is quite likely to be a long post. What with it being fireworks night last night and all, I was in a very reflective mood, I even tried my hand at Haiku on the way home (1) ... and thought about most of this post either on a wall above a park, or in the pub, waiting for my friend Sarah (2) to come back to the pub. I'd had a really nice evening, and was shamelessly monopolising her all night Not that I begrudged her the presence of her boyfriend (3) but, like I said, I'd had a nice night and didn't want it spoiled with them smooching all over the bar. Like they do. It's probably selfish, but I hate to watch couples snogging when I'm single. It's still quite embarrassing when I'm going out with someone, but I think it's worse when your single. Especially if they are your best friends. Anyway, I digress.... I really wrote this ramble to the list because I'm, frankly, scared stiff. and could do with advice. You see, Jenny's coming back. I suppose I should explain... Jenny's.... well, the only thing I can say that comes close is "the Love of my Life". and even then it's an understatement. If She were on the list (I hope she's not in disguise!) she's get 20 votes from me. I'd even sign up under pseudonyms to register more votes. (hasn't anyone thought of this yet, or am I just a cynical old git at heart? ) Do you want another coffee? It's OK, I'll get it... I've known Her for about 2 and a half years now, and I can still close my eyes and see Her smiling like the first time I saw Her. Now, just to clarify a little, we've never "gone out together", although I spent the best weekend of my life in Edinburgh with Her. I started to write poetry again, only for Her, whilst watching Her sleep (badly) on Her birthday. I sat up all night, watching Her and writing about how I felt. about Her I was mindnumbingly embarrassed when, having fallen asleep watching Her breathe and holding Her hand, She woke up before me and read the bits and bobs scrawled onto the back of envelopes and tights packets and any scrap paper I could get my hands on. But, I was overjoyed when She wanted to keep them. You must be wondering, if I love this girl as much as I say I do, then why am I not leaping for joy at Her immanent return to my life (4) and, I'd have to say, I am. I can't wait to see Her again, but I'm worried at the same time. I have a "gut feeling" that She's not going to feel the same about me as I do about Her. and I don't know how to broach the subject. I mean... "Hi, how are you? does your heart want to explode with love, too... or do you fancy a coffee? " I suppose I can only "take it as it goes", eh? Oh well. I think the main problem I have with this is that IF (and that's a big if...) She _doesn't_ love me back (ah, unrequited love... a fine subject!) then my relationship with Her enters the realm of "damage limitation", in that I would rather be friends with her, and be able to talk to her about my thoughts and feelings, than be "acquaintances" (sp?) and get an occasional 'phone call, see her at parties, and start pestering mutual friends about "How's Jenny?" and "What's Jenny doing these days?" (to which the answer would be "Same as yesterday, Calumn, now Fuck Off." ) So what do I do? Should I just go for it, and throw this whole boiling tempest of love at her lap. "There. That's how I feel. now feel free to break my heart" Or do I maintain the wall. stay cool. torture myself for a few years yet. god, is _this_ depression? is it heartbreak? I'm off to read "Belle Lettres" again. It helps. (5) Maybe, just maybe, She does love me back... in which case I get to implement my "grand plan" of introducing her to B&S (she's never heard them. and I admit that this is deliberate. I want to be there when She 1st hears them) whilst cuddling up on the sofa, in front of the fire, with a bottle of nice red wine (I've even got one put aside!). I even made a tape, I'd post the tracklist, but (if you're still here) you really don't want to know. Suffice it to say, it's _all_ Belle and Sebastian... I'll shut up about "Photo Jenny" (hadda put _that_ one on the tape!) oh dear...this post is assuming "reidian proportions" but don't worry, you don't get this very often from me. Other stuff: I'm having difficulty finding the Duke's book in Glasgow (tried Waterstones, Dillons and John Smith's) but I think I might get it on-line instead.... The temptation to get it signed is just too great! But... How Would the Author sign... "Duke of Harringay"? or "Alastair Fitchett" (whoever _that_ is!) I'd like to get it signed by "the duke".. that'd be fun. When Is someone going to nominate _me_ for the Monday poem? It's true, I've been sitting at the back of the class, giglling with my friends, but I'm really paying attention, miss. and have my hand up nicely... I'm not even shouting "me, me, me". Whilst I'm on the subject of Poetry, (and this is the clever "segue" (sp?) bit) Whilst I was looking for (plug) "Young and Foolish" in Waterstone's, I found a book of "Scots Haiku"... One of which I feel like sharing. It's here for the record, so that people can refer to it at the "New Year" bashes. (I included the English Translation, otherwise it's pretty much gibberish!) Ne'erday splore, New Year Party bauld hechts: the morn brave resolutions: still raining mair weet in the morning the books called "scots haiku" (no, really!) and it's by Bruce Leeming. comes in a nice blue cover too. and from Haiku... onto the footnotes... (starting with a haiku... clever huh?) 1) My First Haiku Driving in the rain - the many firework's cherry blossoms fall into the night Well, what do you think? Yes, well, I'll improve. (I've got to!) While I'm (still) on the subject, I heard a great Haiku on the radio.... To convey one's mood in seventeen syllables is very diffic Brilliant! Dramatis Personae and other notes..... 2) My Mate Sarah She's a zoologist at Glasgow Uni, small, funny, gorgeous.. and one of my true friends. I love her dearly. I keep babbling at her about my life, and love and stuff.. She understands me, I think. 3) Sarah's Boyfriend , Ewan. Who is (coincidentally), my best friend. If I had to pick one person, that is. He's a Programmer, with long, long blond hair and a vicious temper when he's drunk. Which is why he doesn't drink alcohol anymore. I'm very proud of him for that. 4) Return? Where was she? Well, Jen left to work in Leeds after that lovely weekend together, and we had decided to see each other when she came back... she had to work _really_ hard while she was down there, and I had just started my job here, with the council. We phoned each other a few times, and I wierded her out once, when I sent her a letter telling her how I still felt about her (she didn't expect it) I was supposed to apologise to her, but I said... "I can't apologise for feeling what I feel, I _can_ apologise for telling you. But I'd rather you knew than you didn't" 5) Belle Lettres? What's that? Oh where have you been? If you haven't read Belle Lettres, you haven't lived. Check it out on Tangent's (damn fine) web site... http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/belle_lettres/index.html you can even buy a "hard" copy (plug!) Now, _there's_ a thing to make a young boy sigh..... Thanks for listening. If you still are, that is. cal In dire need of a big, warm, happy, hug.... Duran Duran Content : "Wild Boys" - now _there_ was a P!O!P video B&S Content: Belle Lettres. The Fireside Bit. Love and Heartbreak Smut Content: None, but I'll let you know if I "get lucky".... Post Length: about 8K (1476 words, but Micro$oft have been known to be wrong) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 16:33:21 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 16:33:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Damn! I wish I was your lover Message-ID: Yowza, Yowza, Yowza... Stuart Gardiner asked... >What is the point, thought Sinister, of a list crush if noone knows >about it? Crushes, shmuses. Love is the way forward. Stop sitting around like a bunch of wallflowers and just get down to it. >2 people are leading on 4 crushes each, one of them is from >England and the other from mainland Europe. More votes welcome... Funkyseb and Philippe. It's obvious. Unless it's John "You've got to be a feminist these days if you want to get your leg over" Warrender, but I somehow doubt it. The Dandy wrote: >Yikes! We went to see The Exorcist last night. Well the >big hard residents of Chorlton did. Wimpy little ginger >saps stayed at home and hid behind their sofas. Warrender, once again, you lie. You left me behind like the scoundrel you are. And you're so tough, why did you tell me that "I wet my pants and got the squirts"? At least I admit I'm a coward. Not many films scare me, though, apart from "The Tin Drum" for the eels, and "Weird Science", for its Orwellian glimpse into a future where men are nerds and women look like Kelly leBrock. Very scary indeed. Saint Lucy's Dad Dario makes horror films, and they're bonkers. He's Italian, you know. >At the end of it all, I certainly hope I never get possessed by an >evil demon. My house was possessed by an evil demon for a while. The same evil demon who stood up at the end of John's poxy film and said he hated students, funnily enough. >Stephen Pastel's coming to Manchester in December. >The 11th it is and he's taking along some of his friends >and they'll be playing a selection of their favourite songs >at "Night & Day" cafe. I'm very, very excited. We're all very excited, especially Keith, who has had to change his trousers. The new Pastels remix LP is smashing, incidentally. Kid Loco and Cornelius and the make up and Stereolab and people like that are on it. And a bloke from One Dove. I don't know why I am telling you any of this. >On the TV front. Well in the coming series of Stars In >Their Eyes there's going to be a very special guest. I'm >not mentioning names or anything, but watch out for the >magic words "Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be Robert >Palmer". >PS It's Stuart David John may be a liar, but that, however, is completely true. Michael wrote: >Meanwhile, I continue to be stalked by former members of Huggy Bear. >Not, I suspect, as worrying as being stalked by former members of >the Khmer Rouge or the Baader-Meinhof Gang, but unnerving >nevertheless. I may be treading on dodgy ground here, but fuck me, the Baader-Meinhof gang were cool. I know they weren't very nice at times, but I've always liked the word Bahnhof for some reason, and Baader-Meinhof the same only longer, so I've always been fascinated by them. I also like the word Schwarzwaldekirschtorte, but no-one ever named a terrorist organisation after black forest gateau, which is a shame. Maybe we can start one. Remember what I said about how Richard was going to go far. I take it all back. Thank you, silence... Love tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 17:08:20 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:08:20 EST Subject: Sinister: Scared of Exeter. Message-ID: hmm maybe it was just me but i thought his name was Oliver--maybe this is too early in the morning well it is actually afternoon to be doing this--oh whatever byebye kristin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From his8jm at xxx.UK Fri Nov 6 17:22:29 1998 From: his8jm at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:22:29 GMT Subject: Sinister: Re: sinister-digest V2 #462 In-Reply-To: <199811051105.LAA24326@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199811061723.RAA23925@mps1.leeds.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 11:05:01 GMT From: owner-sinister-digest at xxx.net (sinister-digest) To: sinister-digest at majordomo.net Subject: sinister-digest V2 #462 Reply-to: owner-sinister-digest at majordomo.net From: "r. h." you are very special as that happened to me in the london show and we met up later and we went out but it soon ended though, but I believe you'll findher. Good luck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 17:05:03 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:05:03 EST Subject: Sinister: We were sitting on the sofa the wrong way round.... Message-ID: <8573f35e.36432c3f@aol.com> i just wanted to say hello to oliver :) byebye kristin :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alerche at xxx.net Fri Nov 6 17:37:44 1998 From: alerche at xxx.net (Andre Vieira) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 18:37:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinister celebrities Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981106183744.0069b194@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> So I heard Henry Thomas is supposed to be on the Sinister list. "Cool," I thought. But then I read this message: >From: "Brian Jones" >Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe > >unsuscribe sinister Am I hallucinating? Can this be true? BRIAN JONES is on the Sinister list!!! This is so great, much nicer than Ron Wood! Who else is famous around here? I know we've got Burt Reynolds and Henry Thomas (and it seems like Donovan too), but who else? Come on famous ones, come out of the closet and let yourselves be known! Not famous at all, Andre. ******************************************************* happy for a day - some belle and sebastian thoughts contact us at: +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajduric at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 17:12:51 1998 From: ajduric at xxx.com (Alexandra Duric) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:12:51 PST Subject: Sinister: Black Sessions-Canada Message-ID: <19981106171253.13416.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Sinisterines... Not interested in Canadian Black Sessions talk? Or knowing that Carly and I will be broadcasting some of it on the radio show tonight? Then trash to your heart's content! Oh, and don't send me any evil emails about weird copyright broadcasting infringements - we don't care! We just want to share some Belle+Seb with the rest of the world. If you missed my last post, the ultra-kind Philippe followed through with a copy of the Black Sessions (hmm, I wonder what other things he follows through on?? :-> It sounds like there's quite a few listees wondering the same - must be that seductive french phrasing... And Philippe! To answer your question, yes I have!) But the Black Sessions are up for grabs. Canadians only, please!! Although, if you're American and pique my, ahem, music interest, you get special consideration... Like Ryan from Minnesota - read my email! You guessed my 3 most favourite bands in the entire world!! And Deb from UofT sent the best story and when she sends me her address... you get the idea. Arye, Frank Y and Robbie - I'll post the copies next week (I still need to make them! This weekend, I promise.) Anyone I haven't contacted yet, I plan to do that this weekend too. Oh, right, right - radio show. Tonight on CJAM 91.5 Windsor/Detroit, 10pm-midnight, Carly and I will be broadcasting a couple of songs off the Black Sessions. And lots of other new goodies - I just got this fantastic package from Beggars Banquet - Delgados (Peloton - ace album), 6X7, Buffalo Tom, and then some. We'll be doing our usual hip and groovy UK/American indie stuff like Arnold, Beta Band, Salako, Super Furries, Flin Flon, Primal Scream, etc (cannot think right now), so tune in (that's post club time for you Brits - 3am -5am). Sorry, no CanContent on the KMart Alice Show! www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/music_link.html And if anyone knows what else Tony Doogan has produced/engineered besides Felt, B+S, Hefner, Delgados, please email me privately. I'm working on a project. cheers, Alexandra ps - Carly! Ray ripped into me for being late! Aargh. And for the network problems, so I went into his office, popped him lightly on the nose, and he apologized. Is it 5pm yet? Alan? The Microsoft sprites ate your email, but I think I remember most of it, so I'll try to send something your way today. Bisoux. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 18:19:24 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 18:19:24 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Damn! I wish I was your lover In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Fri, 6 Nov 1998, Mctaggart, Robert wrote: > > >What is the point, thought Sinister, of a list crush if noone knows >about > it? > > Crushes, shmuses. Love is the way forward. Stop sitting around like a > bunch of wallflowers and just get down to it. > I'm far too shy and cute for that kind of thing. As anyone who has met me will attest I am the nicest boy on the planet and wouldn't hurt a fly. There, is that a blatant advertisement for more votes or what? Actually I'll tell you now that I'm not publishing the list while I'm in the lead, it would be far too embarrassing. So lots of votes for me please but vote for someone else as well while you're at it ;-) > >2 people are leading on 4 crushes each, one of them is from > >England and the other from mainland Europe. More votes welcome... > > Funkyseb and Philippe. It's obvious. Unless it's John "You've got to be a > feminist these days if you want to get your leg over" Warrender, but I > somehow doubt it. Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. Yeah, I was suprised as well when I saw who was in the lead... (Actually there's now a 3rd person on 4 votes - someone else from England...) The other big suprise is that the joint winners last time, Keith and Tag, have only got one vote between them - you ladies don't know what you're missing out on... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billmoss at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 18:51:28 1998 From: billmoss at xxx.com (Bill Moss) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 13:51:28 EST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981106185131.24810.qmail@hotmail.com> Adrian: Yes it's like that except greener and more furry :) Glad you like the 'were' version as well. I wish I talked like that naturally. Which part of Chickfactor sounds Devonian? I've encoded both Lp's to .mp3 and play them on my computer like lullabies to go to sleep - mostly to vivid, pleasant dreaming. >>Anyways, enough of that drivel. >>Bill Moss (Is that like oral thrush for birds:)) wrote : >>in seymour stein the lyric sheet says "it reminded me i'd been crying," >>but i think in the song it's "it were mine and i'd been >>crying." i like the 'were' one :) >>I prefer it as "were" as well because that's how we talk round these >>parts. In fact there's also a lyric in Chickfactor which leads me to >>believe that Stevie is in fact a wannabe Devonian. I bet he's got >>stickers of sheep on the back of his guitar. >>5) Belle Lettres? What's that? >> Oh where have you been? If you haven't read Belle Lettres, you haven't >>lived. >> Check it out on Tangent's (damn fine) web site... >>http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/belle_lettres/index.html you can even >>buy a "hard" copy (plug!) >> Now, _there's_ a thing to make a young boy sigh My list crush would have to be the lovely girl (sue.jpg) on Belle Lettres. http://www.virtual-pc.com/tangent/belle_lettres/index2.html She's on my desktop wallpaper, weather or not she's on the list I can't say? Melt, Bill ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Marylka at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 19:13:48 1998 From: Marylka at xxx.com (Marylka at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:13:48 EST Subject: Sinister: Slow Grafitti? Message-ID: <581bd4e4.36434a6c@aol.com> Hello sweeties Sorry to be annoying but could anyone post / send me the lovely lyrics to Slow Graffiti? I could continue with the made-up words but that is never satisfying, especially when, as happened to me today, someone says to you " What the hell are you singing...that makes fuck-all sense". He never could appreciate musical class.... Lots of sparklers and love, Marylka xxx ps A bizarre thing happened to me today...my friend wants to have a Barn dancing party (don't ask....i checked and there will be alcohol there, so I will not participate...or at least not in a sober state) and she asked if she could have a Belle and Seb tape, as apparently they are just right to BARN DANCE to???? Surely that wins the strangest style of dancing Belle and Sebastian have inspired?!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Fri Nov 6 19:20:36 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:20:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: YOU'RE SO TWEE IT'S UNBELIEVABLE!!!! Message-ID: <000201be09ba$87f37900$d10f93c3@whelan> Evenin' all.... Just a quick one (MAATRON!) to register my complaint to the Fluffyone about her Noone voted for me in the last list crush thingamabob remark. I voted for you as well you know you arse. Stop fishing you twee little thing you. 87) I would have replied to her using that smart new invention called quoting posts, only I deleted it by mistake.... DOH!. Mr Trousers, you are now officially the funniest man in Britain, thanks to your Rock Family Twee post. Even the Sinister bashers on the CU mail-list love it. Totty bye El Hombre Del Mullet +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajduric at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 19:22:41 1998 From: ajduric at xxx.com (Alexandra Duric) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 11:22:41 PST Subject: Sinister: OoPs! Message-ID: <19981106192242.12636.qmail@hotmail.com> OK, this girl is REALLY tired, or brain dead, I don't know. Alex just emailed me to say he tried the URL I sent on the list for the airing of some Black Sessions on CJAM tonight,and, woe is me, I forgot one small character. Absolutely knackered. Let's hope we can engineer the console tonight and not blow up the university or something, although, that is a thought... Hey Carly, 54 40 ARE playing tonight - wouldn't be a bad idea if we cut their power. Giggles. Tom would be pissed, but then your classic rock boyfriend needs to have some more B+S injected into his veins. :-> So here we go again: www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/music_links.html And if THAT doesn't work, send hate mail to our station manager because it means the server is DOWN! cheers, Alexandra "the weaker argument defeats the stronger" ______________________________________________________ ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Nov 6 19:47:35 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:47:35 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: catching up, mark two Message-ID: Phew. OK a few more things from my dizzy astrally projected three-days' old list readings - I'm really sorry this is so piecemeal, so I've thrown in some headings to make it look as if I've got an ordered brain. And I've got my British "politeness" hat on today. - List stuff - I don't quite know how to put this one but I'm queasy about open debate about band members' sexualities and inter-relationships on the list, apart from the obvious fact that of course they all have a thing for Peter Miller, as he appears in every song in a variety of disguises. We've had this long aching debate about who's gay etc. ages ago, and for many of us the band are friends or acquaintances, and read the list sometimes too, so I suppose you could say if you squinted a little that they are honorary members. I suspect none of you would like to see 800 people debating your private life (well I know a few here who might revel in it :), and really is sexuality like that anyway, and really isn't it a bit of a tired old one-dimensional way of interpreting complex personal expression and identity? B&S aren't a flag-waving band, thank goodness, and if you find empathy, connectness, and a personal mirror of your own life in the music then that's where many of us are and that's good; but let's not dig around for really quite private details. I wouldn't allow it on the list for any of *you* blessed 800 listees. Gosh that was sensible. Why didn't I say: they have private lives too. Anyway I've said enough to be shot down, but please ease off it a little, and if you wish to talk about this, please mail me privately. While we're on it, let's go a little easy on a certain person who may be on the list and got a bit of a slagging. Just because someone's had a public life doesn't mean they don't deserve the respect and ploliteness you would expect yourself. It also probably means they can't reply as easily as the rest of us. A listee's a listee whoever they are, and as such is a cherished jewel in my wee heart, and anyone saying anything rude or personal about anyone else on here counts as a flame. And we don't like flames do we? We know they wreck lists, and this list's fabulous thanks to you lot. So be nice because I like it that way. Thank you for your attention you can all return to your desks now, and Adrian Evans wipe that smirk off your face and stop chewing your pencil. Oh! And can I say for the umpteenth time that I don't want anyone to think I'm having a go at them! A few people have in the past and honestly honestly I'm not! I'm just trying to keep the list how the majority of people on it want it. Please don't stop posting and go off in a huff... please. The only time anything's directed at an individual I mail them directly. I should know, I just have :) - WWW site - OK, I promise the WWW site will be back very soon, nay, in the twinkling of an eye. I've restored the archives, which are sort of limping along and looking for sympathy just now, but you can't get to them from the main page; so go to: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/current and via the link "Other mail archives" to every posting there's ever been. - Sending list mails in HTML - please read - There's some people sending to the list in HTML format: they probably don't know it and they're certainly not to blame, but it's that (grrr) irritating thing that Microsoft products like Outlook use by default. Anyway it makes a hash of the digests and I'd appreciate anyone who knows how can send me a full easy-to-use guide on how to turn it off for different mailers (i.e. step by step which I can send on), to send it to me for re-distribution. Not the list please as it'll start another discussion :) In the meantime if you're using Outlook Express, please look at your settings under "Tool", "Options", "Send" and turn choose "Plain Text" rather than "HTML". I have a vague memory it's more complicated than that, but I can't remember why, and hey, it's a start. God, that's vague, sorry I'll try and send out something more competent if someone clever can summarise in a mail to me. - Miscellaneous Ejaculations - The fabulously named Arantxa (I can't believe I know two Arantxa's), and Cindy and others asked how someone puts up a photo on the slightly defunct Sinister WWW pages - you send them to me, JPG format please. I'm particularly proud of the baby pages, partly because I shamelessly like my own picture in wellies with a teddy, so they get quicker attention from me. I think Azreal and co. pointed people to their pictures on the WWW and again if anyone wants me to incorporate them, just ask me to sweetly and send me the URL. And then wait a little while, as everything's taking me a long time just now, as several people waiting for guitar tabs, and personal mails will have noticed: sorry! I'm getting there. Jennifer asked for Tigermilk lyrics - if you go to the Jeepster site www.jeepster.co.uk, they're all there under "discography". Poor old Christian, I don't know who had a go at you about Duran Duran, but ask a "Linda" on the list to make a public confession about her Simon Le Bon poster. The Boy Keith made mention of the "concert" the band minus one did at the church in Glasgow and indeed they did do "Turn, Turn, Turn" and many other festive favourites, like "Kumbayah Me Lordy". This is all true. For new and unbelieving people to the list, if you want to you can see the full rundown at: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/hypermail/1998-month-06/0467.html The delightful Monsieur Philippe: if anyone tells you how to sex a goldfish (no I mean.. you know what I mean, don't be cheeky) then can you tell me too? Princess Diana is looking a bit confused and her fins are going all limp. Entertainment for the ill and at-home: go out and buy cordless phones with two handsets, and then get Linda to take hers out to the car and see how far down the street she can get to the shops before they cut off. Can someone ring me please so I can use the phone a bit more? Today's UK Guardian has an interesting article on A&R men, and makes mention of a band called "Ken Dodd's Dad's Dog's Dead". Why weren't they signed??? honey shapeshifta candida extraordinairia xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lcamard at xxx.fr Fri Nov 6 19:52:58 1998 From: lcamard at xxx.fr (Laurent CAMARD) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 20:52:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: l'amour, l'amour, l'amour... References: <3.0.5.16.19981106090322.2e575528@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Message-ID: <3643539A.2E7F@club-internet.fr> Philippe Garnier wrote: > I am lucky because I had saved all the photos of listees before the crash > (bonjour StLucy...), so I can look at them all day long. Oh no! StLucy was MY list crush! To everybody: keep your eyes off my StLucy To StLucy: I did not save your photo! What a poor idiot I am! I cannot watch you anymore! Help! Laurent +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 20:09:22 1998 From: V at xxx.com (Henry Thomas) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 21:09:22 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Henry Thomas Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981106210922.006c509c@henrythomas.com> Well, If everybody's talking about me, I might as well say something too. Unfortunately I'm not playing with the Blue Heelers anymore. I'm currently in Vancouver shooting "The Happy Face Murders" and next year I'll co-star with Matt Damon in "All the Pretty Horses". So please forget about all this E.T. crap. Every role I've done since I was an adult, people have gone, "Henry Thomas makes a comeback." Beth wrote: >when I was a wee lassie (when E.T. came out) that I sat in my den in our >family's Florida home....with 3 different Texas phone books i'd *borrowed* >from the local library and called EVERY Thomas in them...I never found him, Hehehe. This is funny. I gotta go now. A big hello to Jessica, Krista, and all the other people I met at the NYC gig. And Dawn, nice to know you like Tom Waits too. :-) Henry. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 20:02:12 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boeldieu) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 12:02:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: a tea made from the leaves of eucalyptus fragrances and coriander seeds Message-ID: <19981106200212.11067.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> Kids, the new REM is a magnificent wonder that confirms my theory according to which Belle & Sebastian have killed pop-music. Love, Julien == "Je ne remets jamais � demain ce que je peux faire le surlendemain" ** Alphonse Allais ** _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 20:24:49 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:24:49 EST Subject: Sinister: shall i campaign for this? Message-ID: In a message dated 11/5/98 8:16:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, vlass at interlog.com writes: > and if that's not allowed, then i'll put my girl vote towards jessica and my > boy vote to mike, who i'm not sure is on the list, but was at the toronto > meet before one of the famous shows-that-never-happened. if stuart murdoch > can be ambiguous, then so can i. hee. wowee! it's my first crush vote (i think)! this is cause to celebrate...oh, i guess i already did, i went to the fabulous rotate this and splurged on the new punk planet, new-ish versus, the tower recordings, fuxa...and some vinyl, too. what a day. drinks are on me, so long as everyone has at least one of those "mike's hard lemonade" things. i adore lemonade, and always seem to have too much hard lemonade because i can drink real lemonade by the gallon, and end up all giggly and tipsy, which is just what this list needs, to be inundated with messages written by slightly drunk b+s fans. you think? there are currently strange men painting my house, and they're in the hallway outside my room. i have to pee but it makes me nervous if there's someone strange outside the door, so i'm trying to distract myself by writing emails. the whole story is that we had a fire in the summer (august eleventh, if anyone cares) and the insurance company has taken until now to get painters in, which is totally necessary because they rebuilt parts of our walls and we had a not-so-nice poly filla effect happening. so there was that, and then the fact that the rest of our paint was greyed from smoke damage. oh dear, i just head one of the painters yell out to the other painter "HEY! WHAT HAPPENED?". this is not good. i'm scared. ps. if there is anybody out there who has not yet tried mrs. fields cookies nibblers, may i suggest the white chocolate macadamia nut. mmmm...cookie heaven. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nostromo30 at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 20:38:40 1998 From: nostromo30 at xxx.com (donovan nuyen) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 12:38:40 PST Subject: Sinister: b at t's content Message-ID: <19981106203840.8387.qmail@hotmail.com> >hmph. The film simply neglects the memorable characterisation that Paul --you may know him better as George Peppard -- is a poof. wait dont tell the me BOOK breakfast at tiffanys started this whole "funny" (but has to be gorgeous as a requisite) girl and gay guy pairing that seems to be a fad now... also..i always thought that the guy in "tiffany's" looks too much like william h macy, the guy in fargo who was the car salesman..i think he was in air force one and boogie nights....also how can the guy be gay if he falls in love with holly golightly.. i guess the movie msut have underwent drastic revision...i think holly golightly would turn me out if i was gay. "I know your whole act, telling girls that youre gay so you can break up with them and look cool. Youre not fit to lick the boots of my REAL gay friends" " Well, I dont WANT to lick the boots of your real gay friends" -Last Days of Disco btw...here's a funny little thing about top gun i found..sorry if this was a long mail Sid: You want subversion on a massive level. You know what one of the greatest fucking scripts ever written in the history of Hollywood is? Top Gun. Duane: Oh, come on. Sid: Top Gun is fucking great. What is Top Gun? You think it's a story about a bunch of fighter pilots. Duane: It's about a bunch of guys waving their dicks around. Sid: It is a story about a man's struggle with his own homosexuality. It is! That is what Top Gun is about, man. You've got Maverick, all right? He's on the edge, man. He's right on the f*cking line, all right? And you've got Iceman, and all his crew. They're gay, they represent the gay man, all right? And they're saying, go, go the gay way, go the gay way. He could go both ways. Duane: What about Kelly McGillis? Sid: Kelly McGillis, she's heterosexuality. She's saying: no, no, no, no, no, no, go the normal way, play by the rules, go the normal way. They're saying no, go the gay way, be the gay way, go for the gay way, all right? That is what's going on throughout that whole movie... He goes to her house, all right? It looks like they're going to have sex, you know, they're just kind of sitting back, he's takin' a shower and everything. They don't have sex. He gets on the motorcycle, drives away. She's like, "What the f*ck, what the f*ck is going on here?" Next scene, next scene you see her, she's in the elevator, she is dressed like a guy. She's got the cap on, she's got the aviator glasses, she's wearing the same jacket that the Iceman wears.She is, okay, this is how I gotta get this guy, this guy's going towards the gay way, I gotta bring him back, I gotta bring him back from the gay way, so I'll do that through subterfuge, I'm gonna dress like a man. All right? That is how she approaches it. Okay, now let me just ask you - I'm gonna digress for two seconds here. I met this girl Amy here, she's like floating around here and everything. Now, she just got divorced, right? All right, but the REAL ending of the movie is when they fight the MIGs at the end, all right? Because he has passed over into the gay way. They are this gay fighting fucking force, all right? And they're beating the Russians, the gays are beating the Russians. And it's over, and they f*cking land, and Iceman's been trying to get Maverick the entire time, and finally, he's got him, all right? And what is the last fucking line that they have together? They're all hugging and kissing and happy with each other, and Ice comes up to Maverick, and he says, "Man, you can ride my tail, anytime!" And what does Maverick say? "You can ride mine!" Swordfight! Swordfight! F*ckin' A, man! Donatien ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 20:42:38 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:42:38 EST Subject: Sinister: were you at the b+s toronto meet? Message-ID: <718e1c49.36435f3e@aol.com> hey, so this is my second post today. sue me, the paint fumes are getting to me and the scary painter just asked me for a garbage bag. i was just wondering if everyone who attended the toronto b+s meet at the public library could send me their name, description and maybe what they were wearing at the meet. i've matched names to faces of jj, matt, debbie, vicky, teri, allan, carlos and claire...but i'm afraid my memory is terrible and i can only remember snippets of people's names (oh yes, his name started with, erm, an 'r'). so don't feel bad or anything please, just write what you look like and then when i get my photos scanned you'll get recognition for being the very best you that you could possibly be. who was it that was looking at my baby g? and who was playing with his tamagotchi? and who was the brunette film school boy with glasses? oh, and i'm the jessica from toronto. i sometimes use my tinystar account, this is just the trial for aol. if y'all (wizzcake) were curious. thanks muchly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 20:48:57 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 15:48:57 EST Subject: Sinister: Sinister celebrities Message-ID: <87830c8f.364360b9@aol.com> In a message dated 11/6/98 12:34:40 PM Eastern Standard Time, alerche at altavista.net writes: > Come on famous ones, come out of the > closet and let yourselves be known! anyone remember that old skool cbc show "seeing things"? well, the lead guy, the fat balding one with glasses that was the detective? that's my uncle. also, kerrin lee-gartner, the canadian downhill skiing olympic gold medalist, she's my cousin. perhaps this will get me some more crush votes... truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From starwars at xxx.edu Fri Nov 6 21:58:43 1998 From: starwars at xxx.edu (erin kathleen devitt) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 14:58:43 -0700 (MST) Subject: Sinister: shrine to B&S Message-ID: Hello, I thought that I had finally made my roommate love Belle & Sebastian. It took a while, but finally she was asking to make a copy of some of their songs.:) But I'm not so sure now. Last night she got really drunk. I was trying to get her to sit up and drink some water. Hehe, but she kept falling down. So I propped her pillows up, so she could drink her water. Then she just started busting up laughing. "Hahaha Heheheh.....Belle &Sebastian........ .....Haahahaha.Hahaha its a tower of Belle & Sebastian!!! [the pillows] Hehehehe.....its your shrine to Belle & Sebastian!!!!...hahahah!" What do you guys think, was she just soo happy and giddy to be before a "shrine" of B&S.....or was she just making fun of my love for them? ??? xoxoErin D. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nostromo30 at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 22:23:38 1998 From: nostromo30 at xxx.com (donovan nuyen) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:23:38 PST Subject: Sinister: war games Message-ID: <19981106222338.18006.qmail@hotmail.com> i think the henry thomas movie "cloak and dagger" isn't was pretty decent..i saw it like 3 times when i was 2nd-4th grade on tv 3 or 4 times..the plot escapes me now..i remember dabney coleman gettign shot...and that two old folks (who are actually spies) try to kidnap henry..cos they want the disk..also i think the old lady had no thumb or some finger missing..that is all Donatien ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From juliew at xxx.com Fri Nov 6 22:31:03 1998 From: juliew at xxx.com (Julie) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 14:31:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Chicago Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981106143103.00a368f0@cnet5.cnet.com> Salutations, Sinisters, List virgin here, pleased to meetcha. Lucky me, I was away from home (San Francisco) and in Chicago when B&S landed there, so I was witness to a wonderful show (except for the bonus peep show, the couple in the balcony who were apparently trying to conceive while clothed). Even my hip-hop-loving brother was moved to proclaiming the band "damn good." So the inevitable question: did anyone here tape the gig? Barring that, any tapes of the East Coast performances? I have a meager collection of live tapes (no B&S) I'd be happy to trade, and other arrangements would be agreeable, too. Reply directly to me, please. :j +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Fri Nov 6 23:44:13 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 23:44:13 Subject: Sinister: Boo to comebacks !! Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981106234413.3e0fb09e@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> The so-called Henry Thomas wrote : >Well, If everybody's talking about me, I might as well say something too. >Unfortunately I'm not playing with the Blue Heelers anymore. I'm currently >in Vancouver shooting "The Happy Face Murders" and next year I'll co-star >with Matt Damon in "All the Pretty Horses". So please forget about all >this E.T. crap. Every role I've done since I was an adult, people have >gone, "Henry Thomas makes a comeback." Oh god, All The Pretty Horses is my favourite Cormac McCarthy's novel. I can stand people making movies with beautiful novels. Henry Thomas and Matt Damon in All The Pretty Horses... I am dying! Stay were you are Henry, you don't need to come back. The only good news is that nobody remembers the real Henry Thomas in France :) Hope noone think I am wicked. I am not wicked, I just am serious. So, sorry for being serious. Philippe, the boy who loves horses +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Alan.Holding at xxx.fr Fri Nov 6 22:45:15 1998 From: Alan.Holding at xxx.fr (Alan.Holding) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 23:45:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: l'amour, l'amour, l'amour... Message-ID: <001501be09d9$452d4320$c1ca8aa4@none.wanadoo.fr> > >Philippe Garnier wrote: >> I am lucky because I had saved all the photos of listees before the crash >> (bonjour StLucy...), so I can look at them all day long. > >Oh no! StLucy was MY list crush! > >To everybody: keep your eyes off my StLucy > >To StLucy: I did not save your photo! What a poor idiot I am! I cannot >watch you anymore! Help! > >Laurent Didn't one of our American friends write in to tell us that the photo was actually of someone from an advert? A model type person then. I don't know. Oh, and i'd like to say, this list connected me up with someone wonderful. There, i said it. I'd like to thank someone, but who? Who cares? Alan, with "Faith" era George Michael stubble. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Sat Nov 7 00:08:24 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (tomorrow) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 19:08:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: algebra spaghetti-os Message-ID: <36438F78.42407DA@bignet.net> > I'm currently > >in Vancouver shooting "The Happy Face Murders" and next > year I'll co-star > >with Matt Damon in "All the Pretty Horses". So please > forget about all > >this E.T. crap. Every role I've done since I was an > adult, people have > >gone, "Henry Thomas makes a comeback." > am i the only one who finds matt damon's teeth frightening? perhaps henry could ask him how he gets them so white:) no b&s content, i apologize for that but i guess i will add that i think that this algebra spaghetti compilation on siesta is the most smile-worthy release of the year. it is for kids but if your kids are listening to this then they really must be impossibly hip. keith m -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mart at xxx.uk Sat Nov 7 00:11:45 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 00:11:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Gene Message-ID: Thanks to all of you who visited Matinee's website on the back of my last post, and for your (mostly) kind comments. Tonight, myself and Matinee guitarist Michael went out to see Gene (checking out the competition in the foppish rock stakes). Support acts wee Lorca (Mark Almond-esque torch songs, a bit too intimate for the echoey old Astoria) and Witness (very boring soft rockers who almost veered into Savage Garden territory, such was their general torpor). Celebs (note: this is relative) present were Sean O'Hagan of the High Llamas, Martin Carr of the Boos and, erm, the keyboard player out of Strangelove. Anyway, with rumours that Polygram have dispensed with the services of both Shed Seven and theaudience this week, pressure must be mounting on Gene. Needless to say, they came out like they had a point to prove, playing - get this - 'Fighting Fit'. The Roz is still rocking his skinhead look and Steve Mason scissor-kicked rather excitingly. Sensibly they adopted for a new song/old song/new song policy, rather than playing a raft of new stuff. Of those new ones, the next single 'As Good As It Gets' has a huge chorus, 'Something In The Water' sports the Morrissey style rockabilly strut and another great new song builds slowly over a typically 80s indie bass sound before crashing into a typically Gene/Queen glam rock ending. On the whole, though, the new stuff didn't break much new ground and rather tellingly, the best songs on the night were the really old ones 'For The Dead' and 'Be My Light Be My Guide'. On these (plus songs like 'We Could Be Kings'), the sense of communion between band and audience was quite awesome. It sounded like a football crowd in there and of course they capitolised on this by putting the house lights onto us, the Roz smiling smugly rather like Tim Booth of James, fully aware of how special his band can be. Reassuring moves from the Gene camp, then. If you can find a place in your heart for The Smiths with bovver boots, then you'll like them. As far as comparisons with our band go, the big difference is that they don't use any backing vocals and that they can sometimes be strangers to subtelty. But watching the shit corporate rock on tonight's TFI Friday (Alanis, The Corrs, The Sterophonics) would make anyone appreciate a real people's band like Gene even more, though. Martin Horsfield +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idoruzine at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 00:30:06 1998 From: idoruzine at xxx.com (carly marcoux) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 16:30:06 PST Subject: Sinister: Black Sessions at 10pm sinister lovelies... Message-ID: <19981107003007.18430.qmail@hotmail.com> "...the airing of some Black Sessions on CJAM tonight... So here we go again: www.uwindsor.ca/cjam/music_links.html And if THAT doesn't work, send hate mail to our station manager because it means the server is DOWN!" Alright, get your tape machines ready and your cd burners warm because at 10pm we will be airing two songs off of the delightful Black Sessions on our radio show tonite courtesy of the dignified and well-respected Phillipe... we thought we might tell listees ahead of time when the festivities begin just in case! It all starts with a hand-clap and a smile! Speaking of smiles... i was ear to ear with mine today when i got to take something out of the closet for winter! My fantastic faux fur long fuzzy black hooded parka!!! I felt like having a nice sled ride in the morning but alas, there was no snow! Is it as cold everywhere else as it is here in ontario canada? I hope our show can warm you up tonite and to whomever tunes in... thanks for listening! How sweet! see you all on another belle and sebastian date! oh my that's tonite, isn't it?! luvs hugs and blueberry tea in your belle and seb mugs...with cream! mmmmmm..... xx sammi! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 7 00:53:20 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 19:53:20 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: is peter miller the little boy from ET? Message-ID: hihi tonight i'm going to see club 8. they're this neat swedish band. i'll tell you all about it if anyone cares. so yeah, henry thomas is on the list. i figure it's real, cause who would pretend to be henry thomas? i mean, it's kind of a random thing to say if it isn't true. wouldn't they want to be someone that people on the list are more likely to know about? i mean, someone like drew barrymore would work better. she was in et too. though i'll be nice, cause it was a funny email. and really, i mean, what's the point. i've seen too many celebrities with bad hair days to not feel that way. doesn't mean i don't stare, and i'm not bragging cause it honestly is not that exciting. unless it's someone you totally love. i got to see tim burton once and that one was really awesome, i love his work so much. seeing the b&s people was awesome too, cause they're sweet and wonderful. and yeah, their music is ok too. ;) oh, so anyway, the point of the whole thing was, i can't believe he didn't offer to act in my films. poo. any other actors in the new york area, i want YOU to act in my films. normally i use my roommate, but she's developping an intense fear of cameras. and other pepole. the last film was about a star that fell to earth and then gets nursed back to health. laurel from the list was in it. she shone in the lead, as the, um, star nurser. my list crush is a little well publicized, but oh well. you know what? i can't spell worth shit. thought i'd point that out to anyone whose a worse speller tha me and couldn't tell. oh, and send your crush votes for me in kiddos. i figure i may as well campaign. tkhough you know what? i went to the sinister people page the other day and got there no problem. in fact, i just checked and did it again just now. type in: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/people. i'm there, looking charming. though that's not necessarily the best reason to go. and if you post, send a picture, so we can read your post and think, well, (s)he's stupid, but (s)he's sure a looker. come on, i know that's what you all think about peter miller at least. and by the way, is it ok to make fun of peter miller? i've not spoken to him privately (nice to meet you mr. miller) but it seems like he's the one man that everyone can make fun of, yet walk away free from any sort of guilt. is that because we know so little of his life? he's married (if you can believe that) and lives somewhere in spain. perhaps he can't speak english that well? though he was born in england, but that may be a contributing factor. ;) so perhaps rather than discussing rude things about the band, we should put together a collective biography of peter miller, from the days he wandered the pyrenees with his mountaiin dog searching for his missing mother to his groupie phase to the later years of drugs and sordid sex. or perhaps he will fill in the details himself. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajduric at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 01:07:34 1998 From: ajduric at xxx.com (Alexandra Duric) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 17:07:34 PST Subject: Sinister: Re: Black Sessions at 10pm sinister lovelies... Message-ID: <19981107010734.27077.qmail@hotmail.com> Speaking of smiles... i was ear to ear with mine today when i got to take something out of the closet for winter! My fantastic faux fur long fuzzy black hooded parka!!! I felt like having a nice sled ride in the morning but alas, there was no snow! Is it as cold everywhere else as it is here in ontario canada? >hey sammi, are you wearing the white bikini and huskies tonight? This one is a true sinisterine.. well deserving of a listee crush, although she's rather shy, and sweet. Alexandra ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From creed at xxx.sg Fri Nov 6 01:10:22 1998 From: creed at xxx.sg (creed creed) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 09:10:22 +0800 Subject: Sinister: where ? mp3 files ? Message-ID: <33E9207E.50AEF948@singnet.com.sg> HELLO B&S lovers! ermmm ... glad to be part of this list .. anyhow .. ermm .. anyone know where i can get B&S mp3 files ? wowee -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From TWidmer at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 01:23:35 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 17:23:35 -0800 Subject: Sinister: c'mon get happy Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032FB09D@amerwksnt01.xil.com> <> When i think 'Henry Thomas' i think "valmont"....phhwoar, an appearance easily worthy of the Sassy "cute boy alert" that subsequently transpired!;-) but this must stop somewhere. It's at the point where my count of list crushes has climbed into double-digits, embarrassingly enough. This could either be a reflection of how many gorgeous hunnybunnies there are here on the list, or what a sappy romantic saddo I am (prolly both)... either way, I'm going to try and resist the allure of henry's charms for now. But to all you bashers, don't you think it's nice to see a former child actor done good, instead of out there busting up video stores and dealing crack to transvestite whores?? Which is the only other option for former child stars, obviously. if only the cast of "diff'rent strokes" or "partridge family" had B&S concerts, it would have surely turned out better. Incidentally, a David Cassidy "behind the music" recently aired on Vh-1, so anyone with any questions about him, Teddy Pendergrass, John Denver or Andy gibb, you know who to ask... And as far as these list crushes, it's not supposed to be all about appearances is it? I thought it was more like, you go to read their e-mails first cos you always know they'll say something that makes you laugh, sigh, cry, or perhaps even feel a bit naughty... erm, or so I hear. You know, someone who has written something that makes you say, "right on, Amen! oh gosh we're so much alike - Meunster cheese? Me too!!" But if it's all about appearances, let it be known that I'm a doppelganger for elizabeth hurley. As far as you know. ta, mindy cohn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 01:45:27 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 17:45:27 PST Subject: Sinister: wooop ta lai Message-ID: <19981107014527.8237.qmail@hotmail.com> I can write LONG too...a mix of all sorts,and ramblings,oh yes Oh! O! O! O! Those reviews of Belle And Sebastian were so good...all these shy little encounters,and blossoming romance...and 'the music was so good i thought my heart might burst!' i'm so envious...really..i shouldn't be jealous but can you blame me? And why is Stuart so damn nice to the fans....it makes it that much harder.. no-one feel bad for embarassing first impressions..conversations..I am so stupid with those it makes me cringe...i try to act very mature and knowning at the beginning,but then,i don't know what happens,but the coolness just melts! and it always goes like this:(I hide and watch them soundchecking behind stairs,or sit where they can easily trip over me) 'Hi!...Can I hug you?' and then I kiss 'em...(yes,i go for the gold) it's embarrasing and they probably think i'm crazy,but in someways i think maybe it's not so bad...when will i ever have the oppturtunity to again? i remember when i saw neil codling sitting on the counter of a&w..i tried to be all 'your fame doesn't faze me' and i jumped up next to him,punched him in the shoulder and in the process spilled his drink.. evan dando was at b&s!?! eeeew! when i was a wee child,he used to be in my SEVENTEEN magazines,and he had really long hair and SEVENTEEN was always like 'Oh what we wouldn't give to run our fingers through his hair?' and I always thought i was a lesbian because i wasn't attracted to him...and now where is he,stupid bloated potatoe thinks he's so cool....next Kate Moss will be showing up at Belle and Sebastian shows... Megan,I miss you too....the creek is getting lonely,the mud is starting to freeze with the flurries of snow warning it of winter... i can't go into the chat thing,i don't know what's wrong...it's keeps saying 'cannot resolve...' i love the little lovebirds elisa and sparkly orange..elisa i am glad you got my letter,apologies if it is a little angsty! i am not an angsty person! i've decided when i get my driver's license,i am hot-wiring a car and going to toronto and will go dancing with elisa and jj....(just for the record,PHILIPPPPPPPPPPPE sorry,i like to emphasize the 'P's' Oh did you know I used to be in love with a french Philippe? Philippe Candelero the figure skater! Ahhhh yes,when he used to do that Rocky rountine and rip off his shirt...le sexy anyways,yes Philippe..in France-French,do people say in 'WOOOP TA LAI!' or 'SLING SLING!' because here in Quebec-French,my driving instructor (who looks like trainspotting begbie) always does little hand puppets of cars smashing into each other and he shouts WOOP TA LAI!!!! for effect) stuart and silver pants? he must be sorry he cancelled toronto NOW just think how well he could've made out in Le Chateau. what is this? you sinister people only base your crushes on the photos? i fall in love with a couple of you just from the way you write....we can't ALL be oil paintings!(..actually,instead of a real-person picture,i fell in love with this boy in a paintings for a glasgow art fair,he has that look that i imagine a scottish boy combines with an innocent fumbling to look like) and ahhh why how belle and sebastian make love-in's and boyfriends and girlfriends sound so sweet...it's all running fast over the quiet streets and watch boys with with floppy hair feverishly smoking cigarettes when in reality it's pervy highschool boys and dirty concrete floors and stale beer and 'make me a sammich bitch'.......bahhh i want a sebastian! (and even when you are presented with the perfectly lush atmosphere....fields and fields and dark out,who's your sebastian? a grubby stalker in a pick-up! 'Hyuk hyuk wanna go to the racetrack?') i ain't no fortunate one ("it ain't me! it ain't me!") love, your genevieve 'first you lure them down from heaven with promises of goodness and weeping' ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MileEndGrl at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 01:57:22 1998 From: MileEndGrl at xxx.com (MileEndGrl at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 20:57:22 EST Subject: Sinister: This is kind of late Message-ID: <17237e5d.3643a902@aol.com> Okay, I am kicking myself at this point because I had a chance to go the 2nd supper club show as well, but I left....why do you ask? SO I COULD HANG OUT WITH MY CRUSH LATER!!! I think Stuart threw me off the first night saying "It is going to be the same." Errr, I can't believe I did that. The next day I woke up thinking 'Am I the stupidest girl on earth?" Anyhoo.... So Henry Thomas WAS at the show. I saw him and my friend didn't believe me. Haha, I am always right about these things. Oh, umm could some of you help me out....I went and met up with a few of you at Bryant Park, I was the young red head who felt extremely out of place. Could you people please make yourself known to me. Sorry I left, my friend didn't want to stay and dragged me away. Someone also mentioned about people wanting to act cool. I noticed that too. This guy actually told me to stop dancing to dirty dream # 2. Sorry I get into my favorite band. And I also heard someone talking about people not clapping during Arab Strap, how could you not?! Did anyone else find the supper club extremely strict? I have been there 3 times and never had a problem with anything. Those CIA guys were scary, one guy even took my shoe (i took them off cause my feet hurt so much) cause he thought I was recording stuff. Hmph! Well I am going to go. Woo I get to see Bis tomorrow, not the biggest a fan, but I know so many people going why not? Bye everyone! Love, Cass +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 02:27:51 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:27:51 EST Subject: Sinister: Arcade(Memories) Message-ID: <62ea5060.3643b027@aol.com> Hello Everyone, A couple of days ago I was at Q'zar(Laser tag game) and I was waiting in the arcade section and I saw a The Who's Tommy pinball and I (cant belive it) never seen the pinball and played it once and was addicted and(I'll kill myself later) wasted 15 Bucks on it and Got Second Place but Im going to have to go back and whoop ass and be First! and I also saw Street fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat 1 and Memories came back,I remmber when I beat Street Fighter 2 and Was so exciting and anyways THIS IS IRRELAVENT but I thought I'd share some memories :*) and That rad Tommy pinball machine! I WANT IT! -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lombardi at xxx.net Sat Nov 7 02:52:33 1998 From: lombardi at xxx.net (Chris Lombardi) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 03:52:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinister celebrities Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981107035233.006bfe14@nol.net> Andre wrote: >Am I hallucinating? Can this be true? BRIAN JONES is on the Sinister list!!! This is so >great, much nicer than Ron Wood! Who else is famous around here? I know we've got Burt >Reynolds and Henry Thomas (and maybe a Donovan too), but who else? Come on famous ones, >come out of the closet and let yourselves be known! Even though Andre was only joking, I know of at least five celebrities that are surely on the list. Hint: NYC gig. Lombardi. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geek_girl at xxx.net Sat Nov 7 00:46:52 1998 From: geek_girl at xxx.net (information terrorist) Date: 6 Nov 98 19:46:52 EST Subject: Sinister: club 8, arling & cameron Message-ID: <19981107004652.200.qmail@www0s.netaddress.usa.net> > hihi > tonight i'm going to see club 8. they're this neat swedish band. i'll > tell you all about it if anyone cares. > megan > i care, i care. how was it? and did you catch arling & cameron too? once, this sorta cute boy in a record store just came up to and told me that he could tell i would like them. what a weirdo! AC ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Valiums at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 02:49:05 1998 From: Valiums at xxx.com (Valiums at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:49:05 EST Subject: Sinister: algebra spaghetti-os Message-ID: In a message dated 98-11-06 19:05:53 EST, you write: << am i the only one who finds matt damon's teeth frightening? perhaps henry could ask him how he gets them so white:) >> I agree with you I think he looks like a fucking horse. The kind no one dreams of! Jason +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Sat Nov 7 05:15:27 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 21:15:27 -0800 Subject: Sinister: love songs to isobel.....(DELUXE schoolgirl blushes included) Message-ID: <003401be0a0d$a2985f20$1f11020a@rebelstrange> well first of all, i'm embarrassed. i dont' remember exactly what i may have said, i dont' think i made too big a fool of myself. but i dont' want to be caught speculating about the sexual orientations of people i don't even know....so if i said anythign dumb, i was joking. as i often am. it's ok, we often wonder......a lack of actual personal experience can just make you gossipy and fantasizing about stupid things.....as i'm sure many of us know. (oops!) thanks paul....i think....anyway it's nice to be noticed. GAWD i think i would be so embarrassed if the band read this stuff...i can't help it. i'm 21 going on 12 years of age. and keep getting more immature by the minute. apologies to lovely Isobel for my ridiculous gushing......(gushing, oozing, other disgusting things..) and everyone hold your noses and keep the peppermint candies handy (always worked for me anyway..) cos there's more sickness coming. Does anyone know how to change Outlook xpress so your name comes up different in emails? i hate how it says "Lesley J. Miller" that's so dorky. so anyone who wants to address me can do so as lesley Jo, or whatever. at lleast, my fantasy is to legally eradicate my last name. so there. i think it's nifty we have celebrities on there, like messr. thomas (wave) and the chick from Scaredy Cat stalker....and Brian jOnes!! woo-hoo! i know i'm new here but this is the most email fun i have ever had, you all are a bunch of clever sods, for sure.....entertaining conversation always. B&S merit such wit, i would assume.... and now.........(cheesy drum roll)....... MY ULTRA-POP , ISOBEL-INSPIRED SOPPY BALLAD!!! (lyrics only, at least thus far) ....but it was inspired by dear isobel along with many other life wrenching factors... I got a rainy day friend and she doesnt' understand I want to be tied down, dont' have the strength to run around I never saw anyone else Until i saw wee Isobel MOre empty than i've been all year and the birds just fly away from you around here... and no one smiles like Photo Jenny round here... I'd rather be in hell than never speak to my Isobel But i blew it and I'm already there.... As she walks away You know it's the last time I'm getting on an airplane and i can't even say Goodbye I had a star, but she's left me here to die and now the world is so big, there's no place to hide So i'm looking for some things to sell I'll run away to find my Isobel I'd rather live in hell than lose my chance with Isobel Even if it kills me, at least i won't be here... If i end up in hell, send a postcard to sweet Isobel And tell her i know it's hard to notice anything from behind a cello ******************************** o'c you all know what poetic license is....so you can safely assume i willnot actually run away and stalk anyone. for one thing, i'm much too poor and too much of a scaredy-cat. (I'd get my heart broken anyway, i think she goes for the boys if i'm not mistaken..;) comments, suggestions, song requests, bags full of vomit, hate mail, etc. can all be sent to me... lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AlhOasis at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 03:34:14 1998 From: AlhOasis at xxx.com (AlhOasis at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 22:34:14 EST Subject: Sinister: (no subject) Message-ID: <1113ae3f.3643bfb6@aol.com> hello, your probably all used to the "im new to the list blah blah blah" notes but heres another one for you :) im ashamed to admit i havent even heard anything by belle & sebastian until about 3 weeks ago..when damon told me to buy If You're Feeling Sinister. (and we all know damon is always right...:) but anyways i got The Boy With the Arab Strap first and it sat on my dresser all alone gathering dust for about a week...then one day i put it in and i fell in love with it immediately..the one song that really got me was 'Is It Wicked Not To Care?' i could definitely relate to that one..but the whole cd was just brilliant. and last week i got If You're Feeling Sinister and i was not diappointed at all....so far my favorite song on it is 'Get Me Away From Here I'm Dying'....but of course they're all so good... ok am i boring you yet? :) i usually don't speak up too much on these kind of lists...but from just reading all the mail from this first week you all seem to be very lovely :) (and hopefully accepting of a new B&S fan who doesnt know too much) so hmm i think thats all i have to say... oh yeah, i live in Mentor, Ohio (and ::ahem:: no i'm NOT amish :) -amanda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimmybryant at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 08:41:09 1998 From: jimmybryant at xxx.com (jimmy bryant) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 03:41:09 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Smarter than teachers Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981107034109.0072defc@pop.mindspring.com> Lord Anthony was the highlight of the Athens Ga show and I have been listening to the tape of it over and over again. There are still several phrases which I cannot understand what Stuart is singing. If you know the complete lyrics to this new song I would appreciate it muchly if you could post them to this list or at least give me an URL where I can find them. Thank you. jimmy thin_king it doesn't pay to be smarter than teachers +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 08:01:07 1998 From: stray4f at xxx.com (3) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 04:01:07 -0400 Subject: Sinister: were d.c., boston, or chicago recorded? Message-ID: <199811070903.EAA29556@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> Based on jimmy bryant's mention of having a tape of Athens, and the generous offer of the two NYC shows for heartwrecked Toronto/Philadelphia jiltees by the kind lister ridley13, it seems half of the shows were documented in some way. Did anyone happen to record in Boston, Chicago, or D.C.? Please speak up....... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 09:30:22 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 04:30:22 EST Subject: Sinister: reiterating the fact... Message-ID: <6e173a13.3644132e@aol.com> hi there kids! i just want to say that we should all play nicely on the list! i noticed (okay i thought it was interesting too) all the conversation about the personal lives of our favourite band. and though it was cute that someone brought it up, but i think it got out of hand. :( remember that songs aren't neccessarily about yourself! also dear henry, i am proud of him for writing that letter to the list. it must be hard to read (good or bad) what strangers post about you on a list, kudos to you! so let's just drop it and allow our listees right to be who they are, and respect them for it. hugs and kisses! jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 09:55:56 1998 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 01:55:56 PST Subject: Sinister: sorry I deleted it! Message-ID: <19981107095556.29471.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey listees Thanks go out to Jessica who wished me good luck! Sorry I accidentally deleted all my Sinister mail one day and though I wanted to keep that letter, it's gone. So Jessica, really sorry, but do write to me again. I'm studying Medicine at the University of Western Australia (yep I know it's very FAR AWAY!) by the way. So are there any more One Dove fans out there? Has anyone heard of Plush? I hear he's excellent (Liam Hayes) in a Jimmy Webb kinda way. On the Tindersticks mailing list they're listing their the last few albums they bought. Why don't we do something else different and instead name some act or band who we think is severely underrated and whom all us listees should listen to??? Someone other than me start seeya Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nostromo30 at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 11:13:39 1998 From: nostromo30 at xxx.com (donovan nuyen) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 03:13:39 PST Subject: Sinister: William Cory Bryan Must die Message-ID: <19981107111339.17421.qmail@hotmail.com> erin d wrote: Last night she got really drunk. I was trying to get her to sit up and drink some water. Hehe, but she kept falling down. So I propped her pillows up, so she could drink her water. Then she just started busting up laughing. "Hahaha Heheheh.....Belle &Sebastian......Haahahaha.Hahaha its a tower of Belle & Sebastian!!! [the pillows] Hehehehe.....its your shrine to Belle & Sebastian!!!!...hahahah!" What do you guys think, was she just soo happy and giddy to be before a "shrine" of B&S.....or was she just making fun of my love for them? at least this sounds better than the roommate i had last semester...hed come home drunk all the time and throw up ( at least it was on HIS side). I would then have to REMIND him to clean up his toss. I wore slippers indoors for long stretches at a time. He would accost me since i did not like �the beastie boys� (which is the heard all around the dorms) and was horrified to bunk with someone who would blare pulp, bjork, and stereolab out into the hallways ..in my defence, the people on my floor NEED to be exposed to �good� music...he also ridiculed my wallflower..hey man, the chicks dig me man..im cool like fonzie..i CHOOSE to paint pictures, read books, watch good films, and waste away on the internet...anyway..we had good moments..him and me oh yeah..his best friend was a compulsive thief....and least he stole from him too Donatien ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From butterfliez at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 11:25:51 1998 From: butterfliez at xxx.com (Evan Dando) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 12:25:51 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinister celebrities Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981107122551.006c1a7c@pop03.ca.us.ibm.net> Andre wrote: >Am I hallucinating? Can this be true? BRIAN JONES is on the Sinister list!!! This is so >great, much nicer than Ron Wood! Who else is famous around here? I know we've got Burt >Reynolds and Henry Thomas (and maybe a Donovan too), but who else? Come on famous ones, >come out of the closet and let yourselves be known! Yeah, I'm in the list. B&S are great, I'd love to write a song with Stuart. Ben, are you still there? Evan. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Sat Nov 7 11:25:35 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:25:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Black Sessions-World Wide Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC49@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> I already posted this last week, but I will do it again. I have a copy of the Black Session and am willing to do some for anyone, provided you send: (i) the enveloppes (if you want special padded enveloppes) (ii)the stamps (for the UK) or cheques for international mail (£1.6 for America; £0.69 for Europe) (iii) A blank tape or a bootleg if you have one ...Interested? e-mail me privately Clem. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Sat Nov 7 11:42:53 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 12:42:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: taping stuff for people and so on Message-ID: <342CC2874B9@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> Just read the message of the girl who was trying to get her friend into Belle and Sebastian and who she thinks was making fun of her shrine ...now I know that problem too well ... My best fried hates most of the music I like so I have given up basically ...I make him a tape once a year or so but he just is not into what I am like .... Best thing is just to ignore people and enjoy what you like I guess .... vanxxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rudy at xxx.net Sat Nov 7 11:43:13 1998 From: rudy at xxx.net (rudy ray moore) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 06:43:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: hey, yo! Message-ID: <36443251.2430@pimpsuphosdown.net> shee - it!! all this talk 'bout celebrities done made me think maybe it be time i came out my shell and reveal my true self. that's right, fools...it's me....rudy. you know....dolemite. i'm the rhymenest, slimenest, most mackinest pimp there is, and i like belle and sebastian. the hamburger pimp, he say i'm stupid and i ain't down no more, but i ssayd to him, i says "hammie, you don't know shit. that bitch stuart be slapping down a ho just like me and you. he got no mercy." shit. they'll learn. well anyways, peace out, ya'll. much love to henry thomas and evan dando and lamont sanford and erik estrada and gavin mcleod. they on the list, too, under different disguises, dig? -rudy ray +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hammers at xxx.de Sat Nov 7 12:06:18 1998 From: hammers at xxx.de (Stephan Hammer) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:06:18 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Black Sessions - free Message-ID: Hi all, I got the sessions tape from Philippe and I offer to copy it for anyone, with Tigermilk on the flipside. I don't want money for it or a blank tape or anything. I ask only that you donate whatever amount of money you like to an organisation that helps the poor people in Honduras. Dear Sinisters, let's not forget that this world is not only aboutlying on the bed adn dreaming while listening to B&S. There are people going hungry Far away The've got nothing on their plates And you're feeling your fat face With every single bite of cake (Century of fakers) So please please do something. For everybody interested I have an account of a trustworthy organisation. So long and thanks for your help Stephan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bffmail at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 12:37:30 1998 From: bffmail at xxx.com (Ben) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 13:37:30 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Sinister celebrities Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981107133730.006c6b58@juno.com> >Yeah, I'm in the list. B&S are great, I'd love to write a song with Stuart. Ben, are you >still there? > >Evan. Yep, I'm here still here. This is kind of awkward, but yeah, I'm a listee too. Last june our band seemed to be the main topic of discussion around here and I had a laugh reading your e-mails. As you guys know, I'm a big fan of B&S, and a proud owner of Tigermilk too. We often cover some B&S tunes, especially "Seeing other people" and "Fox in the snow". Maybe we'll try TBWTAS on our next tour. If any of you are in the audience, make sure you clap. :o) Ben. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Sat Nov 7 13:51:32 1998 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 13:51:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Celebrities? Message-ID: <199811071353.NAA14002@freebsd.saqnet.co.uk> chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/chris.htm http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/tiger/ Are these people the real celebrities? Is Evan Dando really on the list? Who's Ben? I was in an episode of Johnathan Creek, so do I count? Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Sat Nov 7 14:20:30 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 14:20:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: "You're rendering that scaffolding dangerous". In-Reply-To: <199811071143.LAA17963@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000201be0a59$c63e6ea0$40dd93c3@whelan> Greetings all..... Kin Woo wrote..... On the Tindersticks mailing list they're listing their the last few albums they bought. Why don't we do something else different and instead name some act or band who we think is severely underrated and whom all us listees should listen to??? The Crocketts for a start. They're fantastic and brilliant and they write good songs, much better than Bewitched who are a pile of pants and wouldn't know a good song if it kicked them up the arse. Seriously though, I think EVERYONE should check Hefner out if they already haven't, cos they are ace, so there. Best newish band of the year by far. Topper as well are another shit hot band who don't get as much attention as they deserve, buy the new single if you can find it. There's some great albums been released down the years which are severely underrated as well. Colour Of Spring and Spirit of Eden by Talk Talk, Soul Mining by The The, the first two Julian Cope albums, anything on Ankst Records, all worth a good listen or ten. Bye bye El Hombre Del Mullet +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 14:29:18 1998 From: boywiththearabstrap at xxx.com (James Errington) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 07:29:18 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Competition Message-ID: It's me, WeeJay, with a little competition for all you lovely people. The one who sends me the most ludicrous, libellous and most importantly smutty history of the band can have this cool e-mail address. Well, get cracking! *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbrent at xxx.ca Sat Nov 7 17:35:17 1998 From: jbrent at xxx.ca (Jason Brent) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 09:35:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: UNDERRATED... Message-ID: <364484D4.25E279AD@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> HEY Y'ALL AS FAR AS UNDERRATED BANDS GO, TRICKY WOO ARE AMAZING! KIND OF JSBX/RFTC. AWESOME LIVE!!! THEY ARE ON SONIC UNYON. AS FOR LOCAL CONTENT, THE WEAKERTHANS, WHO ARE MADE UP OF EX-MEMBERS OF PROPAGANDHI + RED FISHER, RULE!(THEY SOUND NOTHING LIKE EITHER OF THOSE 2 BANDS) THEY'RE ON G7. AS FOR THE PAST, ROSE MELBERG, AND ALL HER PROJECTS (TIGER TRAP, GO SAILOR, SOFTIES, ETC.) MAKE ME MELT LIKE NO OTHER!!! SCOTT WALKER IS PRETTY UNKNOWN IN NORTH AMERICA AS WELL, ON THE GRAND SCALE OF THINGS. ON A PERSONAL NOTE, I FINALLY TRACKED DOWN THE EMBARRASSMENT COMP. THE OTHER DAY. GREAT 80'S BAND FROM KANSAS I THINK? (THATS 80'S IN A GOOD WAY!) AS FAR AS LIST CRUSHES GOES, WATCH OUT!!! I HAD SOME 14YR OLD STALKING MY E-MAIL DUE TO MY PARTICIPATION ON ANOTHER LIST THAT I USED TO BE ON! I HOPE SHE'S NOT ON THIS ONE!!! THAT'LL TEACH ME TO WORSHIP HANSON! LATER LISTIES JASON P.S. WHAT ABOUT SLOPPY SECONDS??? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sat Nov 7 15:56:25 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 15:56:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Blue/Black or Dark brown? Message-ID: <000001be0a67$2cb63340$584d989e@elsato97> Hello teddy bears, boo! I am on my work break, and picked up mail, to find lovely LOVELY Marco had mailed some some fun IRC scripts, tried to go into Sinister chat, and none of the channels worked, bugger bugger bum poo not fair. I have just eaten EGGS CHIPS AND BEANS, yes, I know most of the time I am a sophisticate who eats alfalfa sprouts and whatever poncey version of Mineral Water that is flavour of the month, but there are some times, when only eggs chips and beans will do! CORR! Hehe, the Cornelious album is good. I bought a Money Mark CD the other day, I think everyone should buy it!! WHo cares about the SONG, the CD's shaped like a funny lil' man bending down! I have never seen a non-circle CD before! Buy it! I must say though, for a CD stuck in the 'ambient/trance' section of Action Records, its about as dancy as Nick Drakes techno-scratty album, 'I've got a lovely bunch of pineapples so screw you PUNK' released just after Byrter Layter... I also got a VELOCETTE single, called Spoilt Children - 'cos Get Yourself Together, which Nick taped for me (Nick if you read this could you mail me please?? I lost your address when we changed pooters and I'm stuck, help) was FABOO! But I am not so impressed with Spoiled Children, no no no.... also bought was the Mercury Rev single cos it was one pound, and a Three Johns album for 300 pennies...heh heh, and blooe hairdye....I may never use it though.... IOoooh! Gary wrote: > The Crocketts for a start. They're fantastic and brilliant and they write > good songs, much better than Bewitched who are a pile of pants > and wouldn't know a good song if it kicked them up the arse. Yes but would you trust someone who can't even SPELL B*Witched?? I know I would not!! B*witched's only sore point is the amount of yukky denim poo. The Corcketts couldn't shag their way out of a paper bag. B*witched, would set the paper bag on FIRE baby.... *perks up* >anything on Ankst Records, all worth a good listen or ten. A-ha! YES! May the English Suporters of Ankst INFORM YOU! ANkst records is fantastic, rule of thumb, on Ankst - good. THere you go! From the early Furries, to Gorkys, to Melys I mean just plain wow!Now it is ANKSTMUSIK....and the Rheinhallt H rowlands album is out soon and I'm buying it cos they are fabby. There's going to be a borstal breakout. Argh. *shrinks and dies* I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Sat Nov 7 16:06:07 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 16:06:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian are not snogging. Message-ID: <199811071605.QAA28162@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> On the matter of the private lives of the band, I thought that I would send in this quote, it is from the sleeve notes of tigermilk (the full script is on the Jeepster page); "Belle and Sebastian are not snogging. Sometimes they hold hands, but that is only a display of public solidarity. Sebastian thinks Belle kicks with the other foot. Sebastian is wrong...." Just change the names and we have the answer............. I'm off to burn flies, Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Sat Nov 7 16:23:07 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 16:23:07 -0000 Subject: Sinister: XXXXXXXXXXX Message-ID: <199811071617.QAA02910@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Underrated bands... hmmn, I think we're getting into a sticky area with this, but let's see. Personally I think that Kenickie were tragically underated. You should hear 'and that's why' from their new album. W!O!W! It's on my worldwide tape-tree tape, but not my inferior british tape-tree tape (any comment on which would be welcome...) There seem to be a lot of celebrities crawling out of the woordwork, suspicious or not. If Barbara Flynn or Sophie Aldred have been lurking, then they can have my list crush votes. I'm serious, I spent days watching educational TV in the vain hope of something presented by SA. I hope someone's voted for me... but It cant be likely. Are bribes allowed...? Meanwhile please answer my wonderful competition to this address, since I won't be using the other one at all whe I've a very nice one here, thankyouverymuch. Except for the way it screwed up earlier this month and bounced everything back. If anyone tried to mail me, try again now. I hope it works. If not, try the address below, which is forwarded here. All of which is very dull I'm sure, but (reminder - put some ludicrous excuse here) which I'm sure you'll all agree makes it all fine and dandy. This list is very entertaining and you don't get stupid spam mailings like they've been plagued with at the CU list recently so keep up the good work. WeeJay XXXXXXXX (and XXX for recent performance) James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 7 16:41:37 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azrael) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 11:41:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: taping stuff for people and so on In-Reply-To: <342CC2874B9@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> Message-ID: At 6:42 -0500 07/11/98, Vanessa R. Siegl wrote: [Just read the message of the girl who was trying to get her friend [into Belle and Sebastian and who she thinks was making fun of her [shrine ...now I know that problem too well ... My best fried hates [most of the music I like so I have given up basically ...I make him a [tape once a year or so but he just is not into what I am like .... [ [Best thing is just to ignore people and enjoy what you like I guess [.... [ [ [ vanxxxx exactly. two of my housemates (well, one of them doesn't really live here, but his girlfriend does) were saying how they didn't like belle and sebastian. i was in the room and they were apologizing to me and stuff and i was just like "hey, it's your opinion." i mean, just because someone doesn't like your music doesn't mean you have to feel personally offended. of course, if they start making fun of *you* for it, kick their ass. -kerry "if you don't ask me out to dinner i don't eat." -stanley donwood +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbrent at xxx.ca Sat Nov 7 18:47:02 1998 From: jbrent at xxx.ca (Jason Brent) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 10:47:02 -0800 Subject: Sinister: SORRY Message-ID: <364495A5.D68CF849@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> DEAR LISTIES I WANT TO APOLOGIZE FOR WRITING IN CAPITALS, AS I FORGOT THE GOLDEN RULE! I'M NOT SHOUTING, MY CAPS BUTTON IS JUST STUCK. NEW KEYBOARD ON THE WAY. SORRY!!! JASON +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Sat Nov 7 16:59:09 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 16:59:09 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Celebrities? In-Reply-To: <199811071353.NAA14002@freebsd.saqnet.co.uk> Message-ID: Sarah Starry Fluffster the Queen of Preston just mentioned how the chat room seems to be in a heap - indeed it does, as does the whole of the Virgin IRC net - I'll try and find someone online and see what's what. Oh I never mentioned - I got a mysterious and sexy email the other week from someone who tickled my fancy and mentioned they found Sinister from the Melody Maker's "Top Ten Mailing Lists". Come on out the woodwork you! And can anyone tell me perchance if it was true that MM mentioned us in their silly charts malarkey in the last month or two, and if so can I have a copy to put on the wall next to my latest map of confirmed listee snog-ins? I'd love a photocopy, unless we came 10th. I'm always up for people sharing musical finds on the list but please: let's not have *just lists* of "bands I like" - we've been through this lots and lots of times before and it's so dull if everyone just bangs in a 1-to-10. The resources to run this list are limited for the size of it and we need to keep a focus: so if you can tell us WHY you think we should hear Ken's Dad's Dog's Dead then that's great, but no bare lists please, because they're too easy to do and of little value and my computer will blow up. Would I look sweet in a duffel coat? Would anyone make me mittens attached with a string to go with it if I did? I'm serious. And come on you lot, you're all celebrities on this list. Don't start putting on your best pants and combing your hair just because Winston Churchill and Michael Bentine and Monica Lewinsky have joined the list! I liked you all tousled and frisky. honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Sat Nov 7 16:59:23 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 16:59:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: whinge whinge whinge - that's all you bloody do Message-ID: <000601be0a70$0c9a3440$03000004@n2f9x2> ooh i keep hearing about loneliness of a middle distance runner - I WANT IT - PLEASE HELP - whoever can assist will receive a photo of me, in a fur coat, standing next to some spam in the co-op. Enticing, non? apologies for brevity alix. x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Sat Nov 7 17:16:34 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:16:34 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: irc again Message-ID: Sorry another mail - I've spoken to the Ops at Virgin and our very own chatroom, #Sinister will be back on line in "5 minutes". It sounds as if they need to get a plumber in though, so beware of problems. For people who've never been along before, if you're got an IRC program like mIRC or GlobalChat, you need to connect to the server "chat.virgin.net", join the room "#Sinister" and then tart around. If you're befuzzled by that, go to www.jeepster.co.uk and read instructions - please don't mail me asking just now as I'm pretty swamped myself, but someone else on the list can help out. If there isn't someone in the room when you get there, they'll be along in a minute or two I'm sure. honeyagain xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 7 17:21:56 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 12:21:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: A cornucopia of responses, all written with my nose (and my fingers) Message-ID: <364481B4.F16335A2@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Whoah, I don't think this got sent properly, at least according to my mailbox it didn't. So here it is again... Keith Watson wrote: > Mick McMick, you would be wise to believe the young lad Leonard when > he says that B+S did indeed play Turn Turn Turn at the church, we've > got a tape of it for a kick off - or at least, it's a tape of me and > Chris singing along to the hymn but strategically substituting rude > words along the way. Alright, alright, I concede, there is no shadow of doubt in any of the cockles of my heart. And I concede to you, Chris, as well. Ohp! I just noticed a shadow of doubt in the cockle that's sort of a bit to the left and at the bottom...yes, that one. Hm, let me see...there, I've got it now, my cockles are doubt-free. > Is it possible that Andre may not have seen Stuart on Hyndland road at > all, and it was perhaps Duncan Goodhew, Telly Savalas or maybe even > Yul Brynner (Oooon may be able to sort us out on that one). As far as > I'm aware they're still in America, the word last night from Anne I > believe was that the newest megastar in the B+S camp, DJ Doctor Divine > "the Spinmaster" Symington was coming back on Saturday the 7th from > America, as is Mick from whom the date the 7th came completely > separately. I'm sure Ian will be able to confirm this one... so unless > Stuart came back separately from all the rest, I think it's basically > definite that Andre actually saw someone else who was famous and bald, > such as perhaps Errol Brown from Hot Chocolate. First of all, isn't Yul Brynner dead? Maybe what Andre saw was the *GHOST* of Yul Brynner, who had recently become a large Gnashing Kumquats fan. Sorry but I'm not sure if that's how one spells cumkwat, but perhaps if I spell it differently every time I say it, sooner or later I'll get it right. Anyway, as a little birdie told me, the rest of the band was at the Cornelius show last night, except for Stuart M and ISOBEL! So perhaps she also went back to help with "mixing"? a Duran Duran fan quoth: > since this is my first post, i must provide the obligatory "that > question has already been answered a thousand times" question. it's > not even a very interesting question....but i'll ask anyways. 'cause > i'm curious and that's good enough for me. here goes...in the sessions > version of "seeing other people" (the slooooooow version), are stuart > and isobel also trading verses with stevie??? listening to it again > last night in traffic i could've sworn that one of the verses was sung > by stevie's fine baritone rather than stuart's dulcet tenor? am i > mistaken? does it even matter? prolly not. Stevie's in there, you're right. They each take a verse, and if memory serves me well it goes Stevie, Stuart, Isobel, and then all of them together. And finally, in honor of Robin's utterly amusing story, I present to you an Ink Polaroid, written entirely with my nose, without the use of a "backspace" or "delete" key: yyeere i am, my baccckji is huuuuunched ovfer anjhd my neckj hyurt6s. obviouuskly i'm typinjg with nhose,, but it iis p-ainfull so i'lol stop now. Hm, not bad. Reminds me of when I was very very little and my parents used to sit me in front of a typewriter, and tell me to type a letter to my grandmother. Of course at this age, I couldn't spell, read, or write without a typewriter, much less with one. But it was quite fun to go banging away at those keys. After I was done, my parents would remove the paper and try to find actual words that I had accidentally written. I recall they were very amused once when I wrote something like "fart." Now you see what I had to work with? It's no wonder I turned out like this. It reminds me of the scenario where you sit an infinite number of monkeys (not Monkees, note you, because there're only four of those) at an infinite number of typewriters, eventually one will write one of the great works of Shakespeare. Needless to say, I wrote no Shakespearian plays, nor any sonnets. Hungry like the wolf, /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 17:25:50 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 09:25:50 PST Subject: Sinister: boring lists! Message-ID: <19981107172551.23591.qmail@hotmail.com> p.s. mitchell wrote: > >I'm always up for people sharing musical finds on the list but >please: let's not have *just lists* of "bands I like" - we've been >through this lots and lots of times before and it's so dull if >everyone just bangs in a 1-to-10. The resources to run this list are >limited for the size of it and we need to keep a focus: so if you can >tell us WHY you think we should hear Ken's Dad's Dog's Dead then >that's great, but no bare lists please, because they're too easy to >do and of little value and my computer will blow up. brad and i kinda have a neat way of describing bands. we sorta take it from conan i guess w/ "if they mated". for example: if Galaxie 500 got it on w/ the Velvet Undergroud they'd have a kid named Luna. i guess it helps you get a better feel for what you'd be listning to. i agree lists are pretty boring. just a thought, robbie > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 7 19:32:54 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 14:32:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: pre-B&S/early formation of the band info, updated Message-ID: <3644A066.FCF6E609@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hiya, Here it is, with some tweaking and additional info added. Enjoy! By now we've probably all heard that Stuart Murdoch wrote rather a lot of songs on his own. Apparently he searched to be in a band for a while. He made some cassette tapes, at least two, and gave them to various people. I heard from a friend that he visited America for a time, and brought some demos with him. Supposedly he "jammed" with my friend's friends in Portland, but we'll never know the truth to that. Suffice it to say he wrote some of his own songs, that's all that's important. One of the demos, supposedly the first, was released in '94 and entitled Le Pastie de la Bourgeosie, and apparently featured the song of the same name. Another was perhaps entitled Lisa Helps the Blind. Some songs may have included early versions of Electronic Renaissance, Sleep the Clock Around, and a song entitled Perfection as a Hipster. Also, some have speculated that Lisa Helps the Blind may have some connection with the song "Beautiful," in which the words "They let Lisa go blind," are repeated several times. Three of demos from one of these tapes ("Pocketbook Angel," "London Has Let Me Down Again," "Hurley's Having Dreams,") have been circulated somewhat. Stuarts Murdoch and David met through a government program and collaborated as Rhode Island, recording demos of Dog on Wheels, the State That I Am in, Belle and Sebastian, and My Wandering Days Are Over. Jeepster scout Neil Robertson sent Jeepster a demo with songs by a lot of bands, including Rhode Island. They did some bedroom gigs, as well as a Glasgow radio session. No word on the songs, though. Rhode Island recorded the Dog on Wheels EP with Mick Cooke and various studio musicians who were taking the course at Stow. It was intended as a demo. Later, they were convinced to release at least some of these recordings as an EP. The band as we know them reputedly formed by adding Rhode Island to people met at the Grosvenor Cafe in Glasgow. These were pretty much just matters of them approaching and being approached. Richard Colburn was living in a flat with Stuart David, so perhaps that was where they found him. This was in January of 1996. Not sure as to why "Modern Rock Song," only mentions certain members of the band. Perhaps they had an early incarnation as the Stuarts + Richard and Stevie. It's also possible that they were the only four working on the song when it was written, or when it was arranged for the entire band, perhaps. If there was an early incarnation, Chris and Isobel joined shortly thereafter. They played an early gig in a bedroom in Glasgow, probably some days after forming, on the 13th of January. The lineup consisted only of Stuart M, Richard, and possibly Isobel. Here's what they played: Mary Jo Expectations My Wandering Days Are Over You're Just A Baby Your Idea of Fun I Don't Love Anyone The State I Am In By now the band contained all the current members except Sarah and Mick (though he helped out on various recordings). From here on the official biography is more complete than I could manage to be, so refer to that. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Sat Nov 7 20:07:47 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 20:07:47 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: told you Message-ID: I told you you were all celebrities, particularly one listee who seems to be *three* celebrities all rolled into one little bundle. With my private investigator hat and plastic glasses and moustache kit I've followed a greasy little trail back to his door. But please don't go mailing "Henry" or "Evan" ("Ben"'s mail will bounce) as some poor soul the other end doesn't know what the hell's happening and why their email addresses are being used this way. And then they mail me and ask me and I have to explain and say sorry and all that and I'm getting a little fed up with it, because I'm tired. Sorry to stop the game. If any of you want to do your own investigation, all I'd say is don't trust an email which has a field called "X-Sender" in the header which is "Unverified" (on some mail programs you will need to show all headers or something). And if you want to see who it is look at the headers in Evan's mail where there's a slip up. Or look back a week and see who likes playing jokes. Please don't bombard me with email about it I'm sooo tired...! If this happens again I'm afraid I might get a bit grouchy and do something hasty, so the rest of you don't feel disappointed or a little put out. Love you still, celebs one and all, honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dagrayson at xxx.edu Sat Nov 7 20:32:24 1998 From: dagrayson at xxx.edu (~Dana~) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 15:32:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: lyrics and other shite Message-ID: >>evan dando was at b&s!?! eeeew! when i was a wee child,he used to be in >>my SEVENTEEN magazines,and he had really long hair and SEVENTEEN was >>always like 'Oh what we wouldn't give to run our fingers through his >>hair?' and I always thought i was a lesbian because i wasn't attracted >>to him...and now where is he,stupid bloated potatoe thinks he's so >>cool....next Kate Moss will be showing up at Belle and Sebastian >>shows... hey, dont knock evan dando- he was quite cool in his day, although ill admit 'his day' is decidedly over. but in the come on feel/ postcard days...mmmm....besides, anyone who plays a song written my charles manson has to get credit... and kate moss is hardly a good female counterpart example- evan dando was a rock star, kate moss is a waif-addict?-model. argh. no comparision at all : ) >>in seymour stein the lyric sheet says "it reminded me i'd been crying," >>but i think in the song it's "it were mine and i'd been >>crying." i like the 'were' one :) on the vinyl version of TBWTAS the lyric sheet says "it were mine and id been crying" so you are right indeed. what lyric sheet misquoted it? oh yeah, and i wanted to thank all the nice people who helped me with this whole tape trading thing. i think it is great to exchange music this way, for i am lacking in the fund dep't from my consumerist attitudes that tend to overtake me whenever i visit any establishment/show selling albums/cds. you guys are great : ) dana +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Sat Nov 7 21:57:05 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 21:57:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: lyrics and other shite References: Message-ID: <3644C231.D42B4D5B@jeepster.co.uk> hi all, ~Dana~ wrote: > >>in seymour stein the lyric sheet says "it reminded me i'd been > crying," > >>but i think in the song it's "it were mine and i'd been > >>crying." i like the 'were' one :) > > on the vinyl version of TBWTAS the lyric sheet says "it were mine and id > been crying" so you are right indeed. i think you'll find that on all versions of "the boy with the arab strap" (vinyl, cd + cassette) the lyric is "it was mine and i'd been crying" if anyone finds a sleeve that is different to this, can they please let me know? cheers, Katrina. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aaedward at xxx.edu Sat Nov 7 22:02:08 1998 From: aaedward at xxx.edu (blahblah) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:02:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: sloppy seconds? NO! Message-ID: how can you say that? i went to school with a brother of a memeber, and i didn't take too well to the attitude of the older boy. anyway, i suppose i should give them a try again - but i can't / won't make any promises. if there's any indiana band who should be given the title of ace, try chamberlain. not only are these guys schooled, versed and wicked musicians, but they do cool posters and design, too: it's all about nice in it's own little way. ok. i've finished my post / rant. :) thanks for listening. - choi - pager 206.1646 - +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 22:12:02 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:12:02 EST Subject: Sinister: wee chris on the radio Message-ID: <4c3b9473.3644c5b2@aol.com> Dear list, My sister who goes to Columbia taped Chris Geddes on the radio for me. All she said about it though was that I will be disappointed because it was bad reception. Which I don't understand because Columbia is right across the street from Barnard! I still don't know what he did for, two hours was it? Somebody interviewed him for a bit I think. Did he play his keyboard maybe? Was he the only one there? I'll ask her about it. In any case, I have a tape of it, though it's not in my hands at the moment. It's still mine though! So if you make me a tape of the Black Sessions or something else nice, I will make you a tape of wee Chris, though I still don't know what's on it. And I will also vote you for my list crush! I was watching a movie with James Spader today, and I realized he looks like Stu M. Yes? I think so anyway. I learned to play the violin parts to The Boy Done Wrong.. and Ease Your Feet.., and the piano to Seeing Other People and Fox in the Snow. Can we post these things too, or are they too elementary and easy to figure out on your own? Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sat Nov 7 22:41:11 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 14:41:11 PST Subject: Sinister: celebs Message-ID: <19981107224112.7925.qmail@hotmail.com> Oh dear...Evan Dando's on the list? Weren't you the one the mailed me once and called me crazy? You probably aren't a bloated potatoe in real life,but when you were in all those teen mags,it really drove me insane!(and not in the good way) You an Antonio Sabato Jr! it can't be you anyways,i'm not fooled by yours tricks prankster master. I bet Antonio Sabato Jr is on this too ..come on,show yourself,and be wearing more than underwear. I don't know who the entity known as 'Ben' is supposed to be...and I don't know who Henry Thomas is..i never seen ET (or Star Wars) but i think it's really neat that if a person was obsessed for 3 years,and suddenly that objet of love is there,then goes and buys them whiskey sours,that's a good person! ohhh..the other day at my school they held an air band competition,those are quite fun to watch..next time,i want to enter...i don't know which to do..besides belle n sebastian... 'I'm So Excited' by the Pointer Sisters? or Sing A Simple Song by Sly & the family stone? that 'YEAH! YEAH! YEAH! YEAH! Yeaah yeahh yeahYEAH!' would be quite funn oh,i hope we were in the top 10 mailing lists...most of the ones i've been on are quite dull dull dull,no one plays the baaaad games of sinister xxxxxxxxxxxxx's genevieve ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eyh96 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 7 22:54:11 1998 From: eyh96 at xxx.edu (remaniac) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:54:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: taping stuff for people and so on In-Reply-To: Message-ID: kerry wrote: > two of my housemates (well, one of them doesn't really live here, but his > girlfriend does) were saying how they didn't like belle and sebastian. i > was in the room and they were apologizing to me and stuff and i was just > like "hey, it's your opinion." my housemates a) are able to sing along to all belle and sebastian songs by now, b) hate belle and sebastian, or c) pretend to love belle and sebastian in order to irritate those who fall into category b). apparently they have held conversations debating how many (often consecutive) times i've played certain b&s albums in a day. speaking of living situations, when the college admissions office recently photographed our spiffy kitchen for use in propaganda pamphlet, they also took lots of pictures of me "casually hanging out" -- i was wearing my "study at stow" tshirt! --emily scratch my name on your arm with a fountain pen (this means you really love me) ... rusholme ruffians +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Sun Nov 8 00:39:01 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 16:39:01 -0800 Subject: Sinister: DEBUNKED! Message-ID: <001b01be0ab0$2ef850e0$4011020a@rebelstrange> Yay! i love when people's shoddy jokes are destroyed and cut down to size. that's all for that. oh and a question about "Hurley's Having Dreams": it says she's 8 months pregnant, but then says the baby is kicking and Screaming. babies unborn can't really scream, can they? so what's up with that? does anyone know ....uh maybe dumb question, given. and who is Paula Wilcox? and yea it's true, belle and sebastian are NOT snogging. we can all rest at ease and put down our silly freudian inferences. and it's quite obvious you can change the names around, which amuses me highly, but then again i have no life. it gives me some little tiny thrill of eavesdropping, and i'm very nosy. I think Stu M. should put out a book of his little stories, if Stu D. can do ink polaroids, i want to read about Lisa and Judy and belle and sebastian....it's only fair! it's so hard to find a sebastian, maybe that's why i've turned to looking for Belle. but that's too simple an explanation. I still love Sebastians. we just don't snog. lesley Jo (it's been one week since the DC show!!!!) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Sat Nov 7 23:44:53 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 23:44:53 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <199811072344.XAA15624@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Hey you people What do I do....do I go to see Billy Bragg AND Hefner or do I go see Salako on Sunday night????????? I'm in a mess, I'm in a dress!!!!!! Oh, and I'm drunk and have only come into the office to eat dips and crisps and peanuts and i don't know what I am saying.......aaaaargh Funny joke from Claire...... why do women wear make up and perfume? . . . . . . because they are ugly and smelly. . . . . ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha I'm sorry Byeeeeeeeee Sarah xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Iangstl at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 00:13:18 1998 From: Iangstl at xxx.com (Iangstl at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 19:13:18 EST Subject: Sinister: Under the Covers with my torch... Message-ID: <563e3fdf.3644e21e@aol.com> I am so new to this list, so I feel awful that my second post must be so smutty. But, I am beyond myself with frustration and really miss all of your smut talk so here's hoping that this begins a new round. A very nice friend brought me whiskey last night and within just a few minutes dropped his jeans in front of me. He proceeded to show off his workout shorts then dropped those. I nearly tripped rushing to my bathroom as he told me that he felt like wearing nothing but his undies that night. He followed me, with jeans back on and laughed it off, as I umm fixed my unbroken hair. All night I listened to his lewd and lascivious boasts as he located himself at my feet. At one point, I told him he was so bad for telling me all this and he said "I know I am" and then I said you have no idea how bad you are and he said with a raised hip and a wink, "I think I do." He is really kinda nice to look at and even better to laugh with but I got all nervous. I am too old for this and really felt silly thinking that I could have been so oblivious and yet not.... errrrr maybe its self conscious. He got tired eventually, due to the late hour or equal frustration that I dodged each advance. Maybe its just that I am incapable of playing the fool. Still, I dreamt of horses all night long. I don't even know why I am posting this here beyond the reason of wanting to herald the day of more smut! the girl left on the shelf -dawn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From scaredy_kat at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 01:21:04 1998 From: scaredy_kat at xxx.com (Krista A. Garcia) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 20:21:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I'm no basher References: <36438F78.42407DA@bignet.net> Message-ID: <3644F1FD.267F@hotmail.com> I'm currently >in Vancouver shooting "The Happy Face Murders" and next year I'll co-star >with Matt Damon in "All the Pretty Horses".  So please forget about all >this E.T. crap.  Every role I've done since I was an adult, people have >gone, "Henry Thomas makes a comeback." Hey for all you folks who thought I was bashing, I just wanted to let you know that I was good-naturedly teasing. Henry's well aware of my humor. In fact we're going out for drinks tonight and he's perfectly fine with me calling him "gnarled". And by the way, that wasn't really Henry Thomas who posted, it's the girl who runs Henry Thomas Online (which is a very fine site). just had to add my two cents, Krista +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nostromo30 at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 00:57:22 1998 From: nostromo30 at xxx.com (donovan nuyen) Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 16:57:22 PST Subject: Sinister: various shite Message-ID: <19981108005723.1307.qmail@hotmail.com> >My sister watches it, and since it's only an hour every wednesday night, i figure "what the hell" and sit down and watch it sometimes. Dawson is a pretentious film buff who's favorite director it Steven Speilberg. i dont watch dawsons creek but my older brother is a rabid fan. so if i talk about the plot of comic book or this weeks episode of red dwarf or something equally boring (to him)..hell start talking about dawson or pacey or the relationship of the teacher/student..where he�ll know i couldn�t care less.....then i shut up in frustration rudy ray wrote: >that's right, fools...it's me....rudy. you know....dolemite. i'm the rhymenest, slimenest, most mackinest pimp there is, and i like belle and sebastian. Dolemite! This be Pimpbot 5000 ( from conan o brien, who combines the dynamic flair of a 1950�s street pimp and the sensibilitie of a 1950�s robot). White bread!. I�m gon stick you like a piiiig. All the ho�s think im pretty, got my face at circuit cit-y...got a high speed modem and a silver plated scrotum..These past few weeks i know realize that hustling the not the way...ive been reading scripture...i now realize that the la-wd is the one true mack daddy weejay wrote: >It's me, WeeJay, with a little competition for all you lovely people. The one who sends me the most ludicrous, libellous and most importantly smutty history of the band can have this cool e-mail address. Well, get cracking! i have no stories ..but alas i have been rolling around making porn star movie names for belle and sebastian songs: if youre feeling up sir alec mcguiness-ter...and twat-tybus ( yes yes i know i didn�t change anything) alexdra duric wrote: Speaking of smiles... i was ear to ear with mine today when i got to take something out of the closet for winter! My fantastic faux fur long fuzzy black hooded parka!!! I felt like having a nice sled ride in the morning but alas, there was no snow! Is it as cold everywhere else as it is here in ontario canada? yes i have this white parka with a fauz fur collar that i think was originally my sisters...it screams bjork/ micheal hutchence when i wear it....i like to go my local mcdonalds in it. tara widmer wrote: <> >erm, or so I hear. You know, someone who has written something that makes you say, "right on, Amen! oh gosh we're so much alike - Meunster cheese? Me too!!" But if it's all about appearances, let it be known that I'm a doppelganger for elizabeth hurley. As far as you know. Hey you were the girl on my PULP list who just chewed me out days ago for liking dubstar over st etienne and mono over portishead. Grrr.dubstar is cuter..excuse my shallowness Damon wrote: and I also saw Street fighter 2 and Mortal Kombat 1 and Memories came back,I remmber when I beat Street Fighter 2 and Was so exciting and anyways THIS IS IRRELAVENT but I thought I'd share some memories :*) yes i remember being in middle school and walking home i could play street fighter 2 every day. time well spent if you ask me, since now i can walk into an arcade( on the rare occasion that i do) and whomp anybody in a fighting game and never played that specific game before. Donatien ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jl867 at xxx.edu Sun Nov 8 02:02:24 1998 From: jl867 at xxx.edu (Jillian Lin) Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:02:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: re: wee chris on the radio Message-ID: tami wrote: >My sister who goes to Columbia taped Chris Geddes on the radio for me. >All >she said about it though was that I will be disappointed because it was >bad >reception. Which I don't understand because Columbia is right across the >street from Barnard! I still don't know what he did for, two hours was >it? >Somebody interviewed him for a bit I think. Did he play his keyboard >maybe? >Was he the only one there? I'll ask her about it. i know that i had to turn the radio to NONstereo mode to get proper reception but after that it was fine. chris came by at around 11 and brought along some records and played them for an hour and there were interview bits in between. he played: Fifth Dimension, Sunshine of Your Life Ramsey Lewis, Back in the USSR Phil Ochs, One Way Ticket Home John Phillips, April Anne Ramsey Lewis, Wade in the Water Rod Stewart, True Blue Time Box, Beggin' Sharon Cash, Fever Midnight Cowboy Soundtrack, Tears and Joys Ramsey Lewis, Everybody's Got Something to Hide... Dymaxion, 1-Man Transport Crazy Elephant, My Baby (Honey Pie) so yes, i have it on tape as well and would love to trade (esp. for any of the european sessions or any of the live tapes.) hopefully, this will help ease the burden off of tami's shoulders a bit. love, stanzi, who misses chat and especially Honey & Damon's tarting, JohnFM (whos grandfather did dentistry for chickens!), and dear Sezzie & miss erin. :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Sun Nov 8 10:51:47 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 10:51:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: Salako/Hefner References: <199811072344.XAA15624@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Message-ID: <364577C3.90A9D9E3@jeepster.co.uk> hi everyone, Sarah Wheeler wrote: > > Hey you people > > What do I do....do I go to see Billy Bragg AND Hefner or do I go see Salako > on Sunday night????????? I'm in a mess, I'm in a dress!!!!!! umm, unfortunately Salako have had to postpone the gig in glasgow due to a spineless promoter not having the guts to see it through, however a new promoter has come on board and he is trying to put together a very special gig in glasgow b4 the end of the year. sorry! cheers, Katrina. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hammers at xxx.de Sun Nov 8 11:24:37 1998 From: hammers at xxx.de (Stephan Hammer) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:24:37 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Black sessions and Tigermilk free In-Reply-To: <199811080448.XAA18755@pobox.upenn.edu> Message-ID: Hi all, I am very glad so many people responded to my mail - I knew there would be many good people on the B&S list. For all those who didn't get the message the first time, I'll renew my offer: I will make you a copy of the Black Sessions and Tigermilk (it all fits neatly on one tape). This I will do FOR FREE. What I would like from you in return is a donation to an organisation that helps the poor people in Honduras. That is, children in the first place. I am member of an organisation you might know, called PLAN international. Through them I've been having a foster child in the middle of Honduras for 2 years now. I am planning to visit her (it's a girl, age 6) early next year. That is, if I know she's still alive. Anyway, it is a very trustworthy organisation, and you know exactly where your donations will go. There are several ways to do this, just pick one. 1. You can donate to PLAN in your country. PLAN has offices in all major western countries. I asked them to send me the account numbers, but you might just call by youself: Homepage: http://www.plan-international.org/donors-en.html Adresses I picked out: Sweden VÃ¥ra gironummer är PG 90 07 01 - 4 samt BG 900 7014 Luntmakargatan 46 11140 Stockholm Telephone: 46 8 58775500 Fax: 46 8 58775510 http://www.plan-international.org/sverige/ UK 5-6 Underhill Street Camden London NW1 7HS Telephone: 44 171 4856612 Fax: 44 171 4852107 US 155 Plan Way Warwick Rhode Island 02886 Telephone: 1 401 7385600 Fax: 1 401 7385608 2. If you live in or near a large city (with a Citibank) you might put the money on my account and I transfer it immediately. Stephan Hammer Citibank Germany account # 0212741345 Bank # 300 209 00 3. For US residents Dave gave me the address of another organisation, I included this at the end of the mail. 4. For the amount you are free. The more, the better, of course. Just remember, I am doing this for free and shipping to the US is especially expensive, so keep that in mind while deciding upon the amount. Anyway, thanks for your help. Stephan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Here's what Dave sent me: > > ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> > > > > Concern America Honduras Disaster Recovery Campaign > > > > Concern America (C/A) has worked in Honduras for more than fifteen years, > > particularly in the northern coastal communities in the department of Yoro. > > This area is often adversely affected by severe rains, yet such is the > > only land available to poor, rural families. The recent deluge from > > Hurricane Mitch has been especially devastating to these same communities. > > The disaster has left the people without food, clean water, (for many) > > access by land, and, in a large number of instances, their very homes. > > > > Immediate needs, as told to us from our teams on the ground, are food, > > clean water, and medicines. Already the incidences of respiratory, skin, > > and gastrointestinal diseases are on the rise and need to be arrested > > before people become weakened and susceptible to even more deadly diseases, > > such as cholera, which is always a serious threat in such situations. > > > > C/A is dedicated to caring for the people in the communities with which it > > has worked in the past. While promising not to duplicate aid and services > > available from relief agencies, C/A will work to meet the health and water > > needs of these very communities. Already oral rehydration liquids are > > being preapred for and distributed to those most vulnerable and in need. > > Appropriate antibiotics and fungicides are also being made available. > > > > Since the prevention of life-threatening epidemics is a priority, two > > international C/A teams will be dispatched to the region (1) to assess the > > water situation, (2) to test water supplies, and (3) to seek out clean, > > reliable water sources. They will work hand-in-hand with C/A local teams > > by bringing in Del Agua testing equipment and training the local teams. > > > > C/A has the great advantage of being able to work through the local teams > > it has spent ten years training in health, public health, community > > organizing, and adult literacy. Team members have for years walked and > > bicycled along rural paths to the most isolated of local communities. They > > are well positioned to seek out and assist those most in need and > > vulnerable. > > > > If you would like to assist this Concern America effort, please make out > > your check to Concern America and send it to: > > Concern America > > 2020 N. Broadway > > P.O. Box 1790 > > Santa Ana, CA 92702. > > (Please designate on your check: Honduras Disaster Recovery Campaign.) > > > > Honduras is one of the poorest countries in the western hemisphere. Of the > > 191 countries worldwide, it ranks 149th in daily calorie intake and has a > > 132nd ranking in the category of "human development factor" (for purposes > > of comparison, the U.S. ranks 7th in both categories). -------------------------------------------------------------- There are people going hungry Far away They've got nothing on their plates And you're feeling your fat face With every single bite of cake (B&S: Century of Fakers) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hammers at xxx.de Sun Nov 8 11:50:10 1998 From: hammers at xxx.de (Stephan Hammer) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 12:50:10 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Balck sessions and Tigermilk free - people I lost Message-ID: Hi all I am sorry, I got a lot of messages and I lost 2 people: There was somebody from Hannover - I lost your mail completely, please contact me again. Then there is Lance at prodigy.com: when I tried to mail you it said you are not a user at prodigy.com. Please contact me again, too. So long Stephan -------------------------------------------------------------- There are people going hungry Far away They've got nothing on their plates And you're feeling your fat face With every single bite of cake (B&S: Century of Fakers) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 8 13:13:09 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:13:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Sunday morning ramblings. Message-ID: <199811081307.NAA24360@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Bit of a shortfall of postings recently. Get to it *whip-crack- sound* I suppose we have to thank dawn for upping the smut level again, perhaps to never before scaled heights. She does, however, have an address scarily similar to someone on the CU list who I'm having a little scrap with at the moment (he started it.) Most of my friends don't like B&S at all, but one person I know does ;-) My best friend for years insisted on loving U2 and hating all bands that are in the least bit girly, so disliking people who 'disagree' with my taste has never been an option as that would mean having no friends. Dissapointed that all those 'celebrities' have been debunked, but there's still a remote chance that SA is lurking somewhere.... Meanwhile I rubbed my eye so much this morning that now I've got a horrible squint, which better go away before tomorrow night. This will be the first posting at all for 11 hours, which must be a recent record. I suppose you're all having lie-ins. Oh, I must go home and lie down, it is sunday after all. here's yet another ink polaroid: This is me, standing outside a large plain concrete sixties- style building with a crowd around the front door. I'm talikng to a gang of girls who are saying they met me last night, and I'm saying that I wasn't out last night, and they're saying they met me in 'the square baloon' and I'm saying I've never been in 'the square baloon' while wondering if some doppleganger is wandering around Southampton making a name for me. James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 09:07:15 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 09:07:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Dun-ghan-dee References: Message-ID: <36455F43.83E@seahouses.u-net.com> John Johnston wrote: > SJ "Has he ever seen Kircudbright - will he fly a > microlite....hmm..NO..." They couldn't use this one, obviously - everyone knows Kirdcudbright doesn't rhyme with microlite... JJ (no, the other one) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 14:54:07 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 09:54:07 EST Subject: Sinister: an amalgamation of thought Message-ID: <4e322d13.3645b08f@aol.com> hi all, i'm very disappointed that even dando didn't actually post to the list. i was hoping that it was him, because i wanted to tell him about a dream i had where i was sick and he heard me playing my flute and he came to visit me to cheer me up and he was wearing a big furry moose costume and he gave me a big hug and i felt all better. but i guess he'll never know - boo. i say that fuxa are one of the most underrated bands. i'm listening to their album 'very well organized' right now and it's soooo good. very swooshy, a little like stereolab. no lyrics, just moog and guitars and "unexplained transmissions". but it's not like some ambient bands that just, like, record humming for 67 minutes and call it an album. nope, fuxa write actual songs, and if you fall asleep to this album you will have good dreams. and they say that it's pronounced "fyoo-sha", but i've always preferred to call them "foo- ksa". i think that fuschia is a silly sounding word, but fuxa is great. i got home after work (and much chatter with ahren, but no action i'm afraid) to find that my bulletin board had fallen off my wall - had i been in my bed, i would have been like flat stanley! that's so dangerous, i'm tempted to move my bulletin board over to the other side of my room and put posters above my bed to avert potential disasters. because anyone that knows me knows that things like that happen to me all the time. i've just got that sort of luck. you know, there has been quite a lot of my email that has been returned to me, undeliverable or some such nonsense. has anyone else been using aol v 4.0 and found problems like that? maybe it's just me. i'll have to send those messages again, because i wouldn't want anyone missing out on a single one of my thoughts. toodles, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 8 15:41:49 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:41:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: More smut than you can shake a stick at... Message-ID: Firstly, can I just reasssure people that if they tell me who they have a crush on I won't tell anyone else at all, especially the person they're voting for. I'll post the current standings in a couple of days time, so get those votes in now! As for going on looks or not, the original idea of the list crush way back when was just someone whose posts you really liked, so much that you wish you could get to know that person a lot better, rather than someone you've actually met. That was mainly because at the time not many of us had met each other. Now, any form of crush is admissible I guess, whether you've met them or not. It shouldn't just be on what someone looks like, we're deeper than that here on the whole, but there's no way I'll know so it'll still count. Just out of interest, last time I checked none of the 3 current leaders had photos of themselves on the Sinister site, which just goes to show. Anyway, lowering the tone a bit, I just thought you might like to know about (and maybe try out...) a game I was playing with various people at a (rather good) party last night. Basically one (or more!) person starts with an icecube in their mouth, which they then have to pass on to someone else by the obvious method. And it continues. Of course some icecubes melted during transit... (It really shouldn't take 3 minutes to pass an icecube should it?) Well I certainly enjoyed myself... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belbeoch at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 15:42:47 1998 From: belbeoch at xxx.com (gwenn belbeoch) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 07:42:47 PST Subject: Sinister: sinister breakfasts Message-ID: <19981108154247.23668.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear all, couldn't resist on that sunday afternoon, while i am working( life isn't fair) to reply to Weejay and ask you a little something : WeeJay wrote : Most of my >friends don't like B&S at all, but one person I know does ;-) My >best friend for years insisted on loving U2 and hating all bands that >are in the least bit girly, so disliking people who 'disagree' with my >taste has never been an option as that would mean having no >friends. don't worry you're not the only one : join the club!!!! just wanted to ask you guys if you have any idea of what it means to have breakfast every mornings with either Celine Dion or Bryan Adams? i do like a lot my flatmates,but not their music... hard to support sometimes believe me. (i guess that's the reason why i'm never late to come in at work....but that also explains why the first thing i do when i arrive is a 10 minutes break, listening to B&S or some other cool bands, coz their music completely stressed me out and put me in a bad bad mood, ) so i do understand what you have been written. this is my theory: nobody knows what the 'good taste' in music is, we can all have a different definition of it; even among us, i'm sure some of us like some musics that the others don"t. BUT what DOES exist is a universal definition of what the 'bad taste' in music (moovies...) is. isn't that true ? so, please, does anyone of you know a way to influence the real 'bad taste' of my flatmates to change it into something less worse...i won't pretend to influence them to the point that they'll love 'my' music. Let's say that first, i don't wanna hear this ironic tone in their voice when i am the one who is choosing the music saying 'what is this kind of music again?' anymore; and second, i am ready to hear a music i don't really like as long as it doesn't make me mad. hope you'll all have a better and sunnier sunday than mine!!! cheers, gwenn ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belbeoch at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 15:42:54 1998 From: belbeoch at xxx.com (gwenn belbeoch) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 07:42:54 PST Subject: Sinister: sinister breakfasts Message-ID: <19981108154255.29055.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear all, couldn't resist on that sunday afternoon, while i am working( life isn't fair) to reply to Weejay and ask you a little something : WeeJay wrote : Most of my >friends don't like B&S at all, but one person I know does ;-) My >best friend for years insisted on loving U2 and hating all bands that >are in the least bit girly, so disliking people who 'disagree' with my >taste has never been an option as that would mean having no >friends. don't worry you're not the only one : join the club!!!! just wanted to ask you guys if you have any idea of what it means to have breakfast every mornings with either Celine Dion or Bryan Adams? i do like a lot my flatmates,but not their music... hard to support sometimes believe me. (i guess that's the reason why i'm never late to come in at work....but that also explains why the first thing i do when i arrive is a 10 minutes break, listening to B&S or some other cool bands, coz their music completely stressed me out and put me in a bad bad mood, ) so i do understand what you have been written. this is my theory: nobody knows what the 'good taste' in music is, we can all have a different definition of it; even among us, i'm sure some of us like some musics that the others don"t. BUT what DOES exist is a universal definition of what the 'bad taste' in music (moovies...) is. isn't that true ? so, please, does anyone of you know a way to influence the real 'bad taste' of my flatmates to change it into something less worse...i won't pretend to influence them to the point that they'll love 'my' music. Let's say that first, i don't wanna hear this ironic tone in their voice when i am the one who is choosing the music saying 'what is this kind of music again?' anymore; and second, i am ready to hear a music i don't really like as long as it doesn't make me mad. hope you'll all have a better and sunnier sunday than mine!!! cheers, gwenn ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 15:45:15 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 10:45:15 EST Subject: Sinister: Brighton..Sand, sea and ......Sinisters !! Message-ID: <1a94f161.3645bc8b@aol.com> Afternon people :o) Has it been decided yet if Brighton will be the place for the Southern Sinisterees to get together over xmas ?? If it is going to be here, i have a whole load of spare time to help organize the bash. I was thinking we could all enter the Bird Man competition and jump off the end of the Palace Pier into the sea, then, feeling refreshed we could have our own sinister carnival parade down Western Road, preaching the music of B&S to the massives, then we could all go back to my house, where my mum will cook you all up a big sheppards pie, with rice pudding for afters but only for the people that finished all there dinner. Then we could go somewhere in the evening and boogie the night away!! Well, if this doesnt take your fancy i'm sure we could arrange something else. Take it easy people Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From martysg at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 18:02:58 1998 From: martysg at xxx.com (Marty St. George) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 13:02:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: List Crush and Celebs Message-ID: <000801be0b42$06347200$54d9bfa8@ccypn023> I am a long-time lurker, and currently addicted to B&S. (Admitting it is the first step to the cure, but, unfortunately, I don't want to be cured...) Several months ago, my best friend told me to drop everything and order TBWTAS. His taste is impeccable, since he turned me on to The The in 1981, and Stephon Merritt in 1997, so I generally listen to him. (I actually ordered TBWTAS and Future Bible Heroes at the same time...but still haven't gotten poor Stephon onto the CD player yet...that's how addicted I am to B&S.) I am waiting for some other titles to come into stock at my local internet site, so I can expand my knowledge... However, the quasi-hint within the announcement of celebs on the list has forced me to announce my list crush...Chloe Sevigny, if you're out there, I am claiming you first, before the Johnny (or Janie)-come-latelies grab you from me!!! (!) (I'm too polite to let this post degenerate into smut, so please don't ask me...) Marty PS To the person who told me to turn off HTML mail...thanks in advance. If I hadn't read that message, then this posting would have really pissed you off... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 17:43:06 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 10:43:06 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Help! I Need A Stuart Murdoch! Message-ID: Help! Can anyone help me? I was playing pop subutteo with a guy from work when Mickey Dolenz broke off Stuart Murdoch's head. This is particularly annoying as I only painted his trousers silver last week. If anyone has got a spare Stuart Murdoch could they let me know? I've got a spare Arthur Lee to swap, or I'll pay cash if you prefer. Many thanks, Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Sun Nov 8 15:27:57 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:27:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ken Dodd's Dad, Henry Thomas et al Message-ID: Some things that have been puzzling me this afternoon... 1) Henry Thomas - Sorry, but wasn't he the 'heavy heavy' bass player on TV's 'Rockschool?' 2) Ken Dodd's Dad's Dog's Dead, why weren't they signed? - Well, having played with them at the Red Eye in King's Cross, I would say it was probably because they're a crap cartoon ska band (they said they'd been signed to BMG, incidentally, an idle boast which I let ride because they lent us their bass amp and were quite nice really). 3) The Black Sessions. What is this item? I'm in the process of writing a cheque out for the good folk of Honduras and I still don't know what this mysterious item our generous German friend is offering to send. 4) What length of time do you estimate it takes for a 'Study At Stow' T- shirt to make it from Jeepster in West London to Martin's house in South London. A clue: it's coming up to a fortnight now... As for acts which have been savagely underrated (with accompanying glib descriptions of their art), what about... Duffy: he sounds like Nick Drake getting it on w/ Blur, though I think its just a phase he's going through Spearmint: Hey, Prefab Sprout get it on w/ Pulp in a school disco Grand Drive: Gene getting it on w/ Big Star, in cowboy gear Magic Drive: The Revillos getting it on w/ Bis behind the bike sheds (anyone else reckon that their singer looks like Gonch from Grange Hill?) Matinee: They're saying it's a Gene/Smiths thing nb/ Just add 'on drugs' to any of the above descriptions and you've passed stage one of 'How to write like Simon Williams in the NME'. Stage two is understanding when to drop 'ning' into a review, ie 'Pulp were absolutely ninged out of their nong last night'. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Sun Nov 8 20:46:29 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 20:46:29 Subject: Sinister: The black session story Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981108204629.1fd7fd20@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Martin asked: >3) The Black Sessions. What is this item? I'm in the process of writing >a cheque out for the good folk of Honduras and I still don't know what >this mysterious item our generous German friend is offering to send. The german friend is called Stephan, and I thank him very much for distributing the tape for free and asking people to donate some money for poor children. I met Stephan at the Belle&Sebastian show in Strasbourg, and I can say that he is a very kind boy. Danke schon Stephan! I appreciate when listees distribute/exchange the radio sessions or Tigermilk for free. Keep your money and give it to people who need it. The Black Session is a radio session Belle&Sebastian made on october 5th in a show on the french national radio (France Inter). They played for 50minutes (more than 10 songs). To my knowledge, it is the longest radio session the band has ever made, and it is *really* great! Have a nice week kids, Philippe, l'anamoureux francais +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 19:45:56 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:45:56 EST Subject: Sinister: taping stuff for people and so on Message-ID: Oh Yes This is true with me, My friends Say they "Like" my bands but they really dont or dont have any of their albums. My best friend ryan Says he loves Oasis(Their my fav. band) but really the only song he knows are "Wonderwall" and his fav. song is "Champagne Supernova" just cos they talk about getting high(Though I think its really a love song) and He likes Liam and Noel just cos they fight and swear and sniff cocaine. Tony on the other likes Radiohead and has their 2 albums but hates Pablo honey so shame on his part but on monday Im giving him the Masterplan and hopefully that will save his life,If not My Everyone In This Town Is A tosser(Yes I wrote this song and once im in a band its gonna be huge) World Wide Tour will begin and with all the money I get Start the "BUY EVERYONE IN THE WORLD A GREAT BRITPOP CD" charity and save the world from Bad Music(i.e. NSYNC,BACKSTREET BOYS,COOLIO) -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 20:12:40 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:12:40 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: Taping stuff for people and so on Message-ID: <30e5d9ed.3645fb38@aol.com> Damon Wrote: <> erm.. Shouldn't oasis be added to this list?? just a thought.. i dunno. (shrugging shoulders) Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idoruzine at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 20:46:00 1998 From: idoruzine at xxx.com (carly marcoux) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 12:46:00 PST Subject: Sinister: various shite Message-ID: <19981108204601.14772.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 16:57:22 PST Reply-To: "donovan nuyen" alexdra duric wrote: Speaking of smiles... i was ear to ear with mine today when i got to take something out of the closet for winter! My fantastic faux fur long fuzzy black hooded parka!!! I felt like having a nice sled ride in the morning but alas, there was no snow! Is it as cold everywhere else as it is here in ontario canada? ****mais, beau monsieur donatien, c'est moi (sammi), the shy bunny who is alexandra's flatmate who wrote this! sandra only gave the fashionable advice that maybe i should be wearing my white bikini and husky's (husky's being white furry boots) and nothing else underneath it... i've been bothering everyone for like a month now asking if they thought it might be cold enough so i could wear it... and frankly when i have it on, i feel like a siberian princess... did anyone ever read hans christian anderson's "the snow queen"? a lovely winter story...! >yes i have this white parka with a fauz fur collar that i think was originally my sisters...it screams bjork/ micheal hutchence when i wear it....i like to go my local mcdonalds in it. --+****might i ask what you order? *sigh* pooka. xx sammi! & alexandra who are off to make chocolate chip cookies for a friend named seifker. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 20:57:45 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 15:57:45 EST Subject: Sinister: i looked it up. Message-ID: hi there! i was curious to find out whether to "dream of horses" really meant to dream of sex, so i checked in a book of dream interpretation and it said "if you dream of horses, you will amass wealth and enjoy life to its fullest extent." that *could* mean having sex, but it also makes sense with the song, but the literal interpretation makes sense in the song as well! :) jennifer who has never had a dream of horses. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nostromo30 at xxx.com Sun Nov 8 21:40:06 1998 From: nostromo30 at xxx.com (donovan nuyen) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 13:40:06 PST Subject: Sinister: Brothers Grimm go to Disneyland Message-ID: <19981108214008.10777.qmail@hotmail.com> >alexdra duric wrote: Speaking of smiles... i was ear to ear with mine today when i got to take something out of the closet for winter! My fantastic faux fur long fuzzy black hooded parka!!! I felt like having a nice sled ride in the morning but alas, there was no snow! Is it as cold everywhereelse as it is here in ontario canada? >****mais, beau monsieur donatien, c'est moi (sammi), the shy bunny who is alexandra's flatmate who wrote this! sandra only gave the fashionable advice that maybe i should be wearing my white bikini and husky's (husky's being white furry boots) and nothing else underneath it... i've been bothering everyone for like a month now asking if they thought it might be cold enough so i could wear it... and frankly when i have it on, i feel like a siberian princess... did anyone ever read hans christian anderson's "the snow queen"? a lovely winter story...! not one of my fave but love the story...at least i can remember it now in reflection, since the story it different from the formula of most fairy tales..my favorites details include where the two lovers heat up pennies so that they apply to frosty windows and spy each other through neighboring windows. i also liked the concept of the snow queen (who i always imagine to be blonde and model-ly, since there was one illustration in my version) fancying the young boy as her beau, i think maybe since i was myself that age when i read that book. Lastly i liked the image that one splinter of glass (from an evil mirror mind you) can set in someone's eye and make them see entirely different things (i have a slight fear of sharp objects and eyes). come to think of it, the snow queen had my jacket! while were on the subject or huskys...do they make galoshes or huskys (which i have never heard of) in adult sizes?..where could i go about finding them?..i guess there isn't a market here..since i live in houston, texas! > >>yes i have this white parka with a fauz fur collar that i think was >originally my sisters...it screams bjork/ micheal hutchence when i wear it....i like to go my local mcdonalds in it. >--+****might i ask what you order? okay..i know you *really* didn't want to know...but i order whatever burger is on sale..i think it's double cheeseburger..i order that sale burger and order it plain with cheese..since i haven't eaten condiments since i was a child and dont intend to start now..then i bum( i mean share) fries and the drink from whoever took me to mcdonalds... hey i know we discussed this..but the picture in the sinister gallery..StLucy...isn't actually a sinisterine correct?...nevertheless, it's charming picture..a yes or no will suffice and cheers to the sinister who found the link to the surrealist compliment generator..i was just on it yesterday..FLYS DANCE OPERAS TO YOUR WISDOM! Donatien ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Sun Nov 8 22:54:56 1998 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:54:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Ack! Debt collectors off the starboard bow, Kiptin! Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From ribbon at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 01:10:29 1998 From: ribbon at xxx.com (spiralscratch) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 20:10:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: from the back of the class Message-ID: <199811090105.UAA14497@pluto.yesic.com> hello just wondering if anyone could give me some info on the bathers? i've heard very little about them, but what i have heard has been enough to pique my curiosity. does anyone know of any web sites about them, or have an album to recommend? merci spiralscratch +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Mon Nov 9 02:52:10 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 18:52:10 -0800 Subject: Sinister: conditions of US Stardom Message-ID: <001b01be0b8b$f389b300$3211020a@rebelstrange> I've been hearing about how B&S are destined to become "HUGE" successes and "Famous" worldwide. the Breaking-Out. I can see how it might happen in the UK or europe, or japan, or what not. but i just can't imagine them appealing so widely to the mainstream US, in our climate of worshipping HUGENESS and Crassness of all kinds (i.e., Titanic, Marilyn Manson, Etc...) If they want to make it really big here in America, they would have to fulfill at least 2 or 3 of the following conditions, i am sure of it: 1. Stop singing about sad librarians and bucktoothed girls; start singing about Ho's and pimps, and how they owe their power to Satan. 2. The Dust Brothers/Trent Reznor produce their next album 3. Stuart does a video in fake breast prostheses, leather bustier and halloween makeup. 4. Isobel poses for Penthouse 5. a band member dates Leonardo dicaprio/Matt Damon 6. a band member offs themselves a la kurt cobain, in tragic drug orgy 7. Change wardrobe from flares and second hand threads, to mesh shirts and adidas track gear, dreadlocks; become the Backstreet Boys, stop playing instruments and dance stupidly in a line instead. 8. Next CD of industrial beats and distortion pedals, contains enhanced CD-ROM game where the band members as superheroes join forces with KORN to defeat the aliens 9. Puff Daddy "samples" Seeing Other People, turning it into a frat-party sex anthem 10. Sarah becomes Courtney Love's lesbian lover Unless this stuff happens, i just don't think mainstream America is going to put up with them...... lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Sun Nov 8 22:57:30 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 14:57:30 -0800 Subject: Sinister: stuart's pants, HTML crap, dirty pictures, daily dose of Isobel Message-ID: <001301be0b6b$2b480920$1b11020a@rebelstrange> you all must be getting pretty sick by now of my HTML slop. i thought i had fixed it, then i went back today and Plain Text was not checked anymore. so i HOPE it is fixed now. I hate computers. I had a dream about Stuart's pants. they turned up in my laundry. they were silky black running pants (like track and field) with white stripes up the sides. they were size large, but still pretty small, and i was excited about wearing them. I"m not sure how they turned up in my laundry. In other news, this was written a while back and I request to know what it means......... .Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 11:00:39 -0000 From: Adrian Evans Subject: Sinister: Parrotesque rebelstrange at ldd.net (Lesley J. Miller) Peter, is this your list love child? *********some sort of backhanded insult for the uninitiated, haha?? (paranoia is merely a heightened state of awareness) Or a compliment, if you please??? (keep dreaming!) I may shortly send in my picture for the sinister people page, if i can get up the courage. since i do plan to be around for quite a while, and i can't stand to not be involved in something that is going on. so will it be the public restroom photo, or the standing-outside-the-blackcat-under-the-b/s-poster, or the I*heart*isobel necklace photo? I may also have a picture of me in a purple slip wearing a big rubber tiger mask, but i will have to re-check my photo archives. i'm not sure if that one is appropriate for the kiddies.....teehee There seem to be a lot of Magnetic Fields fans in here, so a Positive Boo to you all! Along with Stuart m, i have a non sexual crush on Stephin and Claudia both, cos they're just so damn cool. okay Isobel's voice is so Sexy to begin with, that i dont' know if my feeble senses can withstand it filtered through the French tongue. I think i shall implode from the sheer force of it. Would there happen to be a segment who are interested in pulling for Isobel to release her own songs? cos if so, I'm gladly looking to join in the effort. I'm good at groveling and sucking up, too. i'd be an asset to the cause......(or a hindrance, i'm not sure which) GO ISOBEL!! RAH RAH RAH!! YOU RULE!!! if this message comes up in HTML crap, i will eat my own hat.. You all can hold me to that and put me in the public stocks, if you wish. lesley jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 04:12:37 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 23:12:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Hang your head in shame, indeed! Message-ID: <36466BB5.80E95610@bigfoot.com> Well, it's good that Honey's expert detective work got that whole "celebrity" mess cleared up. For all those of you who are thinking, "But is this the REAL Reid that's writing to us, or just some clever imposter?", I can assure you, it's really me. Don't get all gushy on me or anything. I'm just a regular person, just like any of you; just better looking, more intelligent and amazingly talented. Whoever was pulling that nasty little prank was pretty clever, though. They gave themselves away by 1) signing off "Evan" and "Ben" exactly the same way and 2) putting that little smiley face symbol at the end of "Ben's" email. Judging only by the many times I've seen him walking around downtown Chapel Hill, he just doesn't seem that, uh, smiley. Still, that "this is awkward" was a nice touch, and so was the way that "DUDE!" was implied in every word that "Evan" wrote. I'm tired of using quote marks so I'm going to stop talking about this now. I'm 99% sure about this, but in order to not potentially embarrass myself, I'll pretend like I'm asking a question. Is that Stevie singing the line "The boy done wrong again"? Not the whole song, just that one line. I was listening to Sinister the way it should be listened to--at ear-shattering volume--and it hit me: No WONDER I always thought Stuart's voice sounded strange on that line...it's not Stuart! Ha! Clever me. Just kidding...I'm probably about the last person on this list who figured that out. I had the worst dream the other night. I was talking to some woman who was a member of Belle and Sebastian (but she was American, and looked nothing like either Sarah or Isobel...I knew she was a member in that way you just "know" things in dreams), and she told me that the release date of the Modern Rock Song EP would be pushed back to next fall "at least". I woke up screaming, and my loving roommates all gathered around me with a warm towel for my forehead and deep concern for my well-being. Actually, I didn't even wake up and just slept for a few more hours, but I'm sure that if I *had* woken up screaming they would have been there for me. That's just the sort of roomies they are. And they ALL (three) like Belle and Sebastian, if you can believe that. In the name of both smut and poetry, I'll give up some of my poetry. I was going to hold back, knowing that my mastery of the English language would make everyone else feel inferior, but this is relatively on-topic. Emily and I wrote it for Christian "new boy" Scanniello on account of it being his birthday and all. You'll need to know that his last name is pronounced scan-ello. So here it is, our entry in the "monday poem" running: A gift for Christian Scanniello As fine as Isobel's cello We thought, perhaps An arab strap But could fine none to fit his long fellow And a list turns green with envy. And we just made that up on the car ride up to DC! Can you imagine the poetic genius we could have turned out with a little more time?! The mind boggles... Oh, I had about a thousand things to tell you that would enrich and liven up your lives, but I forgot them. Oh, well...back to the drudgery, eh? That's the spirit! It's bedtime for us old coots. "Coming, dear!" ~Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 04:57:09 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 23:57:09 EST Subject: Sinister: looking for a pen pal. Message-ID: <8d8ff8f5.36467625@aol.com> sinisterites, hi there! i have been looking for one for a while, so i decided to post on the sinister list. i am in search of a british pen pal to keep me abreast with the goings on in the uk. i would like to exchange snail mail as well as e-mail. first a little about myself. obviously i am a b and s fan. i like other english music as well. i am an anglophile and live in LA but spent a year in brighton studying at the uni of sussex. i like to read books and i do a bit of writing and art as well. if you are interested in corresponding with me, please e-mail me! cheers! Jennifer Thessaly1 at aol.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Nov 9 08:20:12 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 09:20:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Piping Hot Smut! Message-ID: <01be0bb9$c65ea7e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Where to begin? With an apology, perhaps. Sorry if I gave the impression that I didn't believe certain revelations the other day. It's not that I don't beleive them, it's just that I'm pig sick with jealousy. I mean just look at him - he writes a load of crap about falling off his bike and gets called a genius; he sings as if someone's gotten hold of his grollocks and people say he has the voice of an angel; he wears succession of frankly dubious t-shirts and his arms are showered with praises. The only way I can stomach the success of that swine is if every so often someone asks "IS STUART MURDOCH A BIG GAY PUFF?" which is unlikely to happen if everybody thinks Ding Dong is Mad Dog's bird. Trousers wrote: I am not Chris Geddes! I refuse to accept the name given to me by English oppressors. You may now call me Maccaiighghhhgh X. The Dumfries Resistance Brigade is dedicated to the overthrow of the Sassenach Police State by any means necessary. We only agree to this interview if it is conducted entirely in Gaelic. Have you been hanging out in my local supermarket, Trousers? I have endeavoured to "stay pressed" all weekend in your honour. I am impressed by your grasp of current affairs and/or your imagination. Which is more than can be said for Naughty Robert: I may be treading on dodgy ground here, but fuck me, the Baader-Meinhof gang were cool. I watched a documentary about them once, and it was more chilling than cool, especially the dramatic moment when what's her name decides it's time for action instead of words. Most disturbing. Fortunately I know that Robert is merely pushing back the boundaries of top comedy, and I had to do some judicious editing to make him look like a psycho. And besides which, I just wrote "BIG GAY PUFF" in reference to Stuart Murdoch, so I can hardly talk. Didn't that Auteurs bloke have a group named after them? There are lots of reggae instrumentals named after similar organisations in Africa. Well, probably not all that similar. But there aren't many named after Save the Children or the Women's Institute or the British Legion or RADA. Megan, I'm not married, and neither is my wife. It's a long story. As for insults, I don't mind being called a "bucket of stale wee-wee" and a "fat clown", but I do feel a great deal of resentment at being accused of having "boring packaging ideas" and living in "Neorockland". In fact, I live in failed soul-rock fusion land. My latest purchase is "Songs/Hey Love" by Rotary Connection. What a strange how-do-you-do it is! Warm and cold, fast and slow, intimate and distant, freaked out and relaxed, all at the same time. Minnie Ripperton is as high pitched as ever, but doesn't quite reach the sublime heights of "Loving You", which I suppose is inevitable. But I'm not disappointed, because it contains a version of Cream's "Tales of Brave Ulysses", which once featured in a Trouser Press poem. Have you got any more poems like that one, Stephen? We could do with a bit of fucking culture round here. Speaking of great literature, I must say how much I'm still enjoying "The Dirty Trilogy of Havana" by Pedro Juan Gutierrez, rarely have I felt so close to an author. On saturday I went to the pictures and it was "There's Something About Mary" and Jonathan Richman was up a tree and he was dubbed into Spanish and it spoilt it, but the film was good it was funny and it made me laugh and it continued my amazing run of films with wanking in them and Macaroon Diaz is quite good looking, I admit it, but how come on one had told me that one of my all-time heroes is in it? I refer, of course, to Brummie comedian ( I think he's Brummie) Lee Evans. Who'd have thought it? From hilarious Norman Wisdom impersonator to box office smash and forces sweetheart. It's a strange world. Yes I did know that Brynsley Forbes (or something) out of Aswad was in the Double Deckers. I fancied Tiger like mad, I wish she'd join the list. Thank you for listening to my incessant drivel. Peter " I like to masturbate while smelling my own armpits." - Pedro Juan Gutierrez +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xbudynek at xxx.jp Mon Nov 9 09:05:08 1998 From: xbudynek at xxx.jp (Julien Budynek) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:05:08 +0900 (JST) Subject: Sinister: Me and the Major Seventh Message-ID: Salut les copains, I finally got to hear the Black Session... I almost cried to dog on wheels, gosh, that song is really great. I was trying to find the chords to "The boy with the arab strap" the other day. We all agree, only three chords (beautiful ones), G, C and D (sometimes, just when it's necessary). Except not at all. The trick is to play a C with the major seventh. Try it, you'll see. I really felt like I had almost uncovered one of the secret ways to write a B&S song! This also works for Judy & the dream of horses: first start with AM7, DM7 and then, when the trumpet joins, play A and D. I think the transition between Major seventh and simple Major chord is one of the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. This simply gives a sort of joy, of dynamism that I like. cheers. julien PS: Philippe! moi aussi je veux ta photo. :) --- http://www.hip.atr.co.jp/~xbudynek/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Mon Nov 9 10:28:46 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:28:46 Subject: Sinister: French exception Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981109102846.385f40dc@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Genevieve is looking at me : >just for the record,PHILIPPPPPPPPPPPE sorry,i like to emphasize the 'P's' Oh >did you know I used to be in love with a french Philippe? Philippe >Candelero the figure skater! Ahhhh yes,when he used to do that Rocky >rountine and rip off his shirt...le sexy anyways,yes Philippe..in >France-French,do people say in 'WOOOP TA LAI!' or 'SLING SLING!' because >here in Quebec-French,my driving instructor (who looks like >trainspotting begbie) always does little hand puppets of cars smashing >into each other and he shouts WOOP TA LAI!!!! for effect) > I like this funny quebec-french accent... except when Celine Dion is speaking (who stole her brain ?). Well, as far as skating is concerned, i'd like to say that Philippe Candeloro is as clever as ... an ice-skate! France is well know for its great culture, its education, but there are bugs sometimes. Candeloro is a french bug. Did you know that he was gay ? This reminds me... my photo. I asked my mum to give me a photo of myself when i was a baby, but she doesn't agree with me showing her masterpiece on the internet (yes, she calls me her "materpiece"). Last week I bought a fish. My blue fish Megan (a beautifull fish by the way) was suffering of loneliness in its aquarium, so I thought it would be nice to give her a tank-mate. I called the new one Honey. It is pink and yellow and makes big bubbles. For the moment they don't speak much to each others... This reminds me... the new Mercury Rev album (Deserter's song) is really beautiful ! Philippe, one L, 2 P's, a donkey, and several fishes PS : and a dog ! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 09:55:59 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:55:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: er, so which song rules? Message-ID: <3646BC2F.D4EECDB1@jeepster.co.uk> the voting booth is suffering a lisght problem at the moment, it seems that two songs are holding the pole position with joint scores of 8.64 out of 10. now obviously this sort of behaviour just won't do, either 'this is just a modern rock song' is better than 'the boy with the arab strap', or it's not. and as i simply can't abide the political correctness of having two leaders i urge anyone who hasn't yet voted to get their bottom in gear and head to the booth to register your vote, and if you'ev voted already, you can always change your mind! if you've still got your password head back and you can re-cast your votes and maybe add new votes for the new ep? anyhow, the url? http://www.jeepster.co.uk/cgi-bin/belle/vote/vote.cgi cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 10:41:16 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:41:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: You F*t Bastard Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B004261CB@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Listees, Before I vote for my list crush I'd really like to know if there's any ex-Carter USM fellows around. Nobody seems to have mentioned them in the "rich and famous" section recently so I presume not. Shame that, I'd like to vote for Jon "fat" Beast as my list crush. You Fat Bastard You Fat Bastard You Fat Bastard Actually, I just wanted to swear a bit. I'd really vote for Fruitbat. I loved Carter. Are they still togethor? I really liked the way they mentioned bits of London in their records and you could get all excited on the night bus back to Greenwich, spotting Carter songs and getting all welled up to "GI Blues". I had a t-shirt with "Sarf London" written on it too, and the "Beast" came and told me "I love that t-shirt", in a toilet on Clapham Common. It was a defining moment in my life. I love you Beast, wherever you are. Peter Miller outed me as a bit of a twee indie fool recently: >Warrander John sent me a lovely tape with a lovely cover and >a lovely little note written on what appears to be a child's >birthday party invitation. It was lovely, wasn't it. Hope you liked the Field Mice demos Peter. Anyway, now that I'm liberated, I'm off to the "Sha La La" list. The Duke can be found there and there's a particularly intriguing thread entitled "Jasmine Minks". Now that's what I call exciting and relevant. Cheerio people, L.O.V.E. Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Mon Nov 9 11:06:12 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 06:06:12 -0500 Subject: Sinister: hey brother, could you spare some smut? Message-ID: <3646CCA4.7D34@earthlink.net> just read in this week's OUT magazine that mr. murdoch is in fact a sword swallower and he and a certain stephen morrissey are very much in love. mr. morrissey says that stu-baby (as he refers to him) is the first person in ages to even give a toss about him, and therefore dragged him out of the celibate loneliness he's been living in since 1984. he's quoted as: "you know, it's real hard. i mean, masturbating and crying yourself to sleep for 14 years isn't very exciting, is it? but luckily, i found the love of my life, stu. after michael stipe, i thought i'd never find anyone......god bless them glaswegians. they can cheer anyone up. damn, i'm a washed up fuck, ain't i?" here is a list of the funniest people on this list. 1. pjmiller there are some others, but i don't remember the names. tag would've made that list, but that lazy sack of crap can't get off his ass to post more often. i guess some of us have lives....oooooh! touch you. (sizzle) just how pretty is magnetic fields megan? is she as pretty as motley crue megan? or garth brooks megan? hey, duke.....i lost the mail a long time ago about our little tape trade. if you're still interested, let me know. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From l.r.beattie at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 11:14:43 1998 From: l.r.beattie at xxx.uk (Lennox Beattie) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:14:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: i looked it up. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <52C6A112F12@dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk> hi there! i was curious to find out whether to "dream of horses" really meant to dream of sex, so i checked in a book of dream interpretation and it said "if you dream of horses, you will amass wealth and enjoy life to its fullest extent." that *could* mean having sex, but it also makes sense with the song, but the literal interpretation makes sense in the song as well! :) jennifer who has never had a dream of horses. I looked it up as well and my book says its all about sex and lack of control of your own sexuality but i prefer to think of it more literally as sex tends to get everywhere Lennox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Mon Nov 9 13:01:10 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:01:10 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Celebrities? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Would I look sweet in a duffel coat? Would anyone make me mittens > attached with a string to go with it if I did? I'm serious. joking aside, can you still get mittens ?I've genuinely looked everywhere and all that are around are stupid enormous South Park mittens, and they are bloody expensive too. I want small, cute dinky little numbers. > > And come on you lot, you're all celebrities on this list. Don't > start putting on your best pants and combing your hair just because > Winston Churchill and Michael Bentine and Monica Lewinsky have joined > the list! I liked you all tousled and frisky. Ooh, Ooh , Ooh this was something I meant to say last weekend but I never made it into college. On Thursday night we went out blah,blah,blah (I'll tell anyone who wants to know, it's nothing like Ooh man, we were so drunk and I met this guy, we just had such a laugh, anyway anyway,) I don't want to lose you here, I woke up the next morning quite under the weather and although I am normally quite diligent I couldn't handle going in so I just flicked on the CD machine yoke (which miraculously had B&S in it-'arf !) and had a bit of a lie-down and after a few hours listening, I had completely recovered. And thanks to the docile tones of Stewy and Izzy. Oh , that wasn't what I meant to say at all, sorry folks this is actually the story I wanted to share cos it's about the celebrities on the list. Even though I was watching a programme last night that disclaimed the existence of celebrities because there is nothing to celebrate in most famous people anymore ...(I bet you're thinking will she ever get to the point ?, well hang on, I'm just testing the water, easing myself into it. ) Well this is what I've been trying to say : Yesterday I was doing my reading cos I have yet another essay to do. Boring ...No ! It is innately linked with this list. I was listening to B&S at the time and I the essay was about Romantic writers in the (18 and their involvement in the French Revolution. This guy called Cockburn said something along the lines of "Everything had to do with the revolution." I was checking the footnotes and the guy's name was - Henry Thomas Cockburn. Henry Thomas is on this list ! B&S take thier name from a French novel, Henry Thomas Cockburn was commenting on the French Revolution. The Romantic period is traced from the period of Samuel Johnson's death, James Boswell wrote about Johnson, James Boswell is Scottish, So is B&S. Wowee, whipipydoodaa !Wuhay !!!!! That's all I have to say on the matter, sorry if it was boring. Toodles -dee- > > honey xxx > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Stapleton at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 13:10:24 1998 From: C.Stapleton at xxx.uk (Catherine Stapleton) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:10:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: The Monday Poem Message-ID: <363FEBB162D@csuf22.csd.plym.ac.uk> I hope you all appreciate this you smutty gits. I've had to break into Plymouth university to send this. It's from an anthology called Emergency Kit (strange poems for strange times). The Ecstasy of St Saviour's Avenue (Valentines Night) by Neil Rollinson. Tonight the tenement smells of oysters and semen, chocolate and rose petals. The windows of every flat are open to cool us, the noise of our limberings issues from every sash as if the building was hyperventilating in the cold February air. We can hear the moans of the Rossiters, the Hendersons, the babysitters in number 3; a gentle pornography rousing us like an aphrodisiac. For once the house is harmonious, we rock in our beds; our rhythms hum in the stone foundations. We shall have to be careful; like soldiers who must break step on a bridge. We stagger our climaxes one by one, from the basement flat to the attic room, a pounding of mattresses moves through the house in a long, multiple, communal orgasm. The building sighs like a whorehouse. We lie in our sheets watching the glow of the street lights colour the sky; the chimneys blow their smoke like the mellow exhalations of post-coital cigarettes. So, there you go. Any abuse can be directed to my normal e-mail address as I'm just about to be slung out of here. As for next weeks Monday poem, I nominate the Bard of York, Archelita. Adrian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Sun Nov 8 22:24:50 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 22:24:50 +-100 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <01BE0BE5.71AC82E0@Abonado-195-53-43-221.cat.es> Yesterday I went to the Barcelona?s record collector fair and it was impossible to find any rare material from B&S. I even asked in an english stand and the girl who answered me didn?t even knew anything about them. That?s the business world. I know that Isobel didn?t changed her colour of hair, but if it was true, how many would you pay for having some pieces of it ? I?m saying this because today they had put in auction some pieces of Elvis?s hair. Jordi. (I say Isobel?s hair as I can say the silver pants of Stuart or anything else about the band.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Mon Nov 9 14:11:51 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (tomorrow) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:11:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: america dreaming Message-ID: <3646F826.3B11A36@bignet.net> >Unless this stuff happens, i just don't think mainstream >America is going >to put up with them...... actually i think there is a pattern to follow for english bands trying to make it over here and that is to release a rock single first, let it get a little airplay but mostly remain unmemorable and then for the second single release a cliche-laden ballad with accompanying black and white video(ala cranberries and oasis) apparently we yanks think black and white portrays depth and meaningfulness and couples-skate worthiness. not necessarily underrated but perhaps underappreciated(especially by evil richard branson's label) is Moose who have released three fantastically breezy and delicate records and yet remain totally obscure. Maybe they have been unable to live down their shoegazer past but Russel Moose has the wooziest voice in pop and he is just lovely. I keep hearing they are self-releasing their new record 'twelve new ways to fly' soon, does anyone know when? keith m oh and i have the bathers 'kelvingroovebaby' and i love it, liz fraser appears on it:) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 15:02:41 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:02:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A Sinister conspiracy In-Reply-To: <000001be081e$5b2bf0c0$584d989e@elsato97> Message-ID: <199811091456.OAA10399@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Her royal fluffyness said (years ago): > We have realised you know, that SINISTER LIST is taking over the world, > well, Sinister listees anyway. Look at the evidence. Whenever I catch the > bus at 5.10 from Friargate in Preston, I see a van with P. MILLER AND SON > PLUMBING. And then ON the bus, I pass the MILLER HOUSE....! Today, what did > we see in the Hairdresers? PAUL MITCHELL HAIR PRODUCTS??? And in Booths > afterwards, 'Waggle Dance - the only HONEY beer'??? And while looking for > something for tea, Tag-liatelle..... d'oh! Never mind trying to install > Outlook 98 the other day and something called DR WATSON kept popping up..... > there was nothing about Adrian Evans though, so obviously he will be first > up against the wall come the revolution HaHa! Last night on British TV there was a film about a french boy called Philippe seducing american girls. The fatal flaw in the theory is my tragic lack of fame though. Stuart Gardiner said: > Just out of interest, last time I checked none of the 3 > current leaders had photos of themselves on the Sinister site, > which just goes to show. HaHa! That could be me. Possibly. Still no mail from Sophie Aldred. Spurned again. Jordi, if you want some of Isobel's hair I could sell you a bit from the brief period she dyed it black ;-) WeeJay, two e's, one J, no dress sense, XXXXXXXXXX James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Mon Nov 9 14:59:24 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 15:59:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Help! I Need A Stuart Murdoch! References: Message-ID: <3647034B.8A4B4DF6@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> I want your subbuteo!!! Give me your address i want to stole your game. Marco#7. Kevan Cooke ha scritto: > Help! > > Can anyone help me? I was playing pop subutteo with a guy from work > when Mickey Dolenz broke off Stuart Murdoch's head. > > This is particularly annoying as I only painted his > trousers silver > last week. > > If anyone has got a spare Stuart Murdoch could they let me know? > I've got a spare Arthur Lee to swap, or I'll pay cash > if you prefer. > > Many thanks, > > Kevan > The Fat Slug > > *********************************** > chickclick.com > girl sites that don't fake it. > http://www.chickclick.com > http://www.chickmail.com > *********************************** > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 15:11:19 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:11:19 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: A Sinister conspiracy In-Reply-To: <199811091456.OAA10399@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Message-ID: A few silly questions : a)Does anyone know Jon Spencer 's tourdates in UK apart from the one in London on 27th November? I suppose JS and his tough blokes are quite far from the twee spirit of this list, but maybe there is someone around as dazed and confused musically talking as me... b)To WeeJay : who is Sophie whatever??? c)r.h. : I give you half point as list crush because your initials mean so much to me...!Even when r stands for robert but what does h stand for? Anyway, I was really intrigued by some message especially dedicated to you and sent by J. Murtagh? I am terribly nosy too... Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hammers at xxx.de Mon Nov 9 15:12:42 1998 From: hammers at xxx.de (Stephan Hammer) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:12:42 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Balck sessions and Tigermilk free-update In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi all, You people are so nice! I think I got about 40 requests and yes, you'll all get the tape. I am donig the best I can. The idea behind this was, that I wanted to donate a lot of money for my foster child anyway, but I thought if I spent it on making tapes for all of you and making this for free, I could get more money for the cause. Some of you asked me if certain sums were all right (15 pounds, 30 dollars...)- this is all fine, I don't expect you to donate your monthly income! Just don't forget about doing it. So far I haven't got the account numbers yet, but some said they would just send checks to the addresses i gave you, I guess this will be just fine. Just add a line that says it's for Honduras! Thanks everybody, I'll keep you posted. Stephan -------------------------------------------------------------- There are people going hungry Far away They've got nothing on their plates And you're feeling your fat face With every single bite of cake (B&S: Century of Fakers) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheAdwiz at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 15:27:07 1998 From: TheAdwiz at xxx.com (TheAdwiz at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:27:07 EST Subject: Sinister: Everyone participate! Message-ID: new music is a beautiful thing so i've decided that everyone should reccomend albums to everyone on the list being that we all are suprerior in taste. besides i'm always on the look out for new music, it keeps me going. but i'm looking for stuff that sounds like b&s. someone introduced me to cat's miaow which is really good and i'm really loving felt and the field mice. mercury rev's new one is smashing as well. so make a recommendation and share your music with everyone. thanks. -arye (means "lion") +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 15:42:49 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:42:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A Sinister conspiracy In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19981109161300.2837a68e@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> References: <199811091456.OAA10399@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Message-ID: <199811091536.PAA02949@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Philippe wrote: > WeeJay had a terrible weekend : > >HaHa! Last night on British TV there was a film about a french boy > >called Philippe seducing american girls. The fatal flaw in the theory > >is my tragic lack of fame though. > > Hum... that was not a film... that was a documentary :) > > Anonymous Hmmn, you were 18 in 1955 were you Philippe...? Meanwhile, about all that IRC stuff... There's an icon here marked 'Telnet VT 420 Emulator' and since I know what the others do I thought I might be able to get onto it via that. I obviously cant download software , this being a college network. Can anyone give me some info? Please..!? Please!?!? XXXXXXX WeeJay James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Mon Nov 9 15:42:00 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:42:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Everyone participate! Message-ID: <36470D48.8DE1C3CD@itl.ca> > TheAdwiz at aol.com wrote: > > > new music is a beautiful thing so i've decided that everyone should reccomend > > albums to everyone on the list being that we all are suprerior in taste. > > besides i'm always on the look out for new music, it keeps me going. but i'm > > looking for stuff that sounds like b&s. someone introduced me to cat's miaow > > which is really good and i'm really loving felt and the field mice. mercury > > rev's new one is smashing as well. so make a recommendation and share your > > music with everyone. > > thanks. > > -arye (means "lion") > > Along B&S lines, I'd mention Arnold. Bouncy pastoral folk-pop with a slight > edge. And I find the new Candyskins rather Boo Radley-esque. Haven't heard the > new Boos record ($35 in Canada!), but it's probably brilliant. > That's it off the top of my head. Probably have some more later, when I've > though about it. > > -- > Frank Yang > The early bird gets the worm, but the second mouse gets the cheese. > > In my CD player: Belle & Sebastian - The Boy With The Arab Strap -- Frank Yang Imperial Tobacco Ltd. Insert witty remark here. In my CD player: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Frank Yang Subject: Re: Sinister: Everyone participate! Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:37:05 -0500 Size: 4392 URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From Matthew.Stead at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 20:40:09 1998 From: Matthew.Stead at xxx.uk (Stead, Matthew) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:40:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Everyone participate! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:27:07 EST TheAdwiz at aol.com wrote: > > new music is a beautiful thing so i've decided that everyone should reccomend > albums to everyone on the list being that we all are suprerior in taste. > besides i'm always on the look out for new music, it keeps me going. but i'm > looking for stuff that sounds like b&s. someone introduced me to cat's miaow > which is really good and i'm really loving felt and the field mice. mercury > rev's new one is smashing as well. so make a recommendation and share your > music with everyone. -- I bought the Delgados album today and was suitably impressed. I love the way that they manage to be so fragile and gentle like B&S, and then sway to experimental, all in the space of a song. I know I may be slow to jump on the wagon with this one, but I'm happy I found it! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Poverina at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 15:35:22 1998 From: Poverina at xxx.com (Poverina at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:35:22 EST Subject: Sinister: A Sinister conspiracy Message-ID: <2b4705a.36470bba@aol.com> The dates are listed on Pollstar through December, if memory serves correctly. Too much of a lurker to ever inspire a crush, DeAnne +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Mon Nov 9 15:57:41 1998 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 10:57:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: fox in the...parking lot Message-ID: Mmmmm, its a grey and dreary day in suburban Maryland, my friends. As I pulled into the parking lot at work this morning I noticed two of my friendly coworkers standing and pointing into some trees. I went over to look and..! ohmygoodness! It was a real- life fox! It was much bigger than I had pictured them in my head, and rather tall....almost as large as a mid-sized beagle. Well, I pointed (even though everyone was already looking in that direction) and yelled out "fox in the snow!!" Needless to say, they just gave me weird looks because...umm... there was no snow on the ground obviously. Their puzzled looks couldn't deter my happiness, though. This is barely B*S content, but I really wanted to share my uplifting morning with you all, because, well... if anyone would understand and not give me weird looks, it would be you, dear readers. I wish fine fox-filled mornings for everyone. too shy for smut or shameless self-promotion, christa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 16:05:20 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:05:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: This is my claim Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B004261CF@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Hello Everybody, Apparently all you have to do is mention "The Jasmine Minks", "The Claim" and "Dexy's Midnight Runners" in one post and you too can call yourself "Duke". Oh well, here goes... The Jasmine Minks - They're from the Granite City. That's Aberdeen in the North of Scotland to those not in the know. So am I. The Claim - I went to Dunedin to pay homage to Flying Nun Records. I did too. How fucking "indie" is that? Dexy's Midnight Runners - Er, shit. Can't think of a single thing. And there I was thinking how easy it must be to be a Duke. Well it isn't. So just remember kids. This is not a game. This is the Shalala mailing list, Love...Johnny-Wonny +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billmoss at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 16:04:35 1998 From: billmoss at xxx.com (Bill Moss) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:04:35 EST Subject: Sinister: The Boy Done Wrong Again Message-ID: <19981109160435.20989.qmail@hotmail.com> Reid said: >Is that Stevie singing >the line "The boy done wrong again"? I noticed that too (before or after you I can't say)- it must be someone other than Stuart. Could be Stevie, Stuart D., etc. Oh well, no help to you. Listen to Looper's Spaceboy Dream #3 at http://www.treehouse.clara.net/looper.htm - the intro might be better than TBWTAS version. Keith said: >oh and i have the bathers 'kelvingroovebaby' and i >love it, liz fraser appears on it:) What are the bathers like, who's Liz and are they also from Glasgow? I have a cassette from Felt called The Pictorial Jackson Review. I've had it for three years - there are two songs on it that are really wonderful and show clearly their influence on Stuart - they are 'Ivory Past' and 'Apple Boutique.' I recommend getting this record. Could anyone recommend another Felt record? They tend to be pretty expensive here in the States. Elisapet is looking lovely on the people & mini-people pages!! Crush, Bill ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 16:32:51 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:32:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Freedom for Tooting! Message-ID: Comrades, I trust everyone had a nice weekend. I did thank you for asking I bought Serge Gainsbourg and Jane Birkin's LP which has just been reissued and it's got "Le chanson de slogan" on it and that's a very good song. And a Dusty Springfield LP too, although me and Wumpkinny have had our first disagreement cos she says the first song on it is something and I say its something else. I didn't want to sleep on the sofa though, so I let her win. Forgive me, for I have sinned. Che Miller wrote, >Fortunately I know that Robert is merely pushing back the boundaries >of top comedy, and I had to do some judicious editing to make him >look like a psycho. I feel bad now. In fact, I know sweet Fanny Adams about the Baader Meinhofs, except they were German and tortured rich people, and had hunger strikes. All in the name of revolution. It was a flippant comment, intended to make me look hard after Warrender made me look like a big scaredy-cat. Of course, now that the Dandy has been outed as the sort of person who sends out children's birthday invitations to complete strangers in Spain, I needn't have bothered. You should come to John's party though, Peter, there'll be ice-cream and jelly and lemonade and musical statues and pass the parcel, and he'll tell you all about his toilet-trading adventures with Julian in Stockport. Up the revolution. Tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 16:51:42 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:51:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: New Records Message-ID: <01BE0C01.3A9E0E10.keith@qss.co.uk> Indeed, why not talk about new records, since they're great, at least, the good ones are. So this weekend I bought the Mercury Rev record which, as WHOever it was said, is great, I'd agree with that certainly, I was never hugely keen on Mercury Rev before, I mean, I liked the records, but I suppose they were in the "more interesting than actually good" category. I bought the Gene Clark compilation that came out a couple of weeks ago, and it's brilliant too, although I haven't made it as far as CD2 yet, but I'll bet it rules too. Another fine recommendation that came out today, is the single of "All I Need" by Air, which features two remixes of Kelly Watch the Stars, which are both brilliant, in particular, the first on, by Moog Cookbook, which has to count as one of the best remixes of the decade. It's ace when people can actually do something different to a track that changes it, and yet actually retains elements of the original, people have taken to taking the piss for numerous years now as remixes are concerned. 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Kennedy ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 17:17:49 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 09:17:49 PST Subject: Sinister: Everyone participate! Message-ID: <19981109171749.1499.qmail@hotmail.com> it seems that b&s fans come from all types of musical realms so while i recommend music to everyone, i can't assure you that you'll like any of it. :( other bands i've been listening to lately: mojave3 rialto sweet trip other favourite bands of mine: slowdive my bloody valentine broadcast pale saints any other shoegazer belle & sebastian fans out there? lorraine ;D >> >> > new music is a beautiful thing so i've decided that everyone should reccomend >> > albums to everyone on the list being that we all are suprerior in taste. . so make a recommendation and share your >> > music with everyone. >> > thanks. >> > -arye (means "lion") >> ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 17:42:09 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:42:09 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Shoegazing is not dead Message-ID: Thanks Lorelei to rescue such a descriptive word as shoegazer. Yes, I was one of them, though I don't stand anymore in the dancefloor staring exactly at the floor and shaking my bobbed hair ...Some of my all time favourites are in your list, My Bloody (the Kings), or Pale Saints, but Ride used to be too, and Adorable and Swervedriver Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 18:03:33 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:03:33 -0500 Subject: Sinister: janine and the dream of... Message-ID: OK I had a belle and sebastian-related dream too. It's all a bit fuzzy now, but here goes: I dreamt that one of them - I'm not quite sure who- somehow accidentally took my atm card and withdrew $60 from my bank. So, I found out when I tried to go to the bank and I had someone else's card. I wasn't mad, just confused. Then the person from belle and sebastian somehow found me and gave me my card back, paid the $60 to me, and introduced me to the rest of the band. they all apologized profusely and said it was a mistake and it would never happen again, and that they would never steal money from me. Of course I forgave them. :) queen bee janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cp83985 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 9 17:49:42 1998 From: cp83985 at xxx.edu (Carl Polgar Jr) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 12:49:42 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: i was 17 and stupid, thought i was 22 and cool Message-ID: hello to all. i have a question. the other day, i called up my friend to ask her if she wanted me to include any particular songs on the mix tape i was going to make her for her birthday. at first, she couldn't really think of anything, but then she asked me for more stuff from denzil, which i included in a mix tape i gave her three years ago. which leads me to my question: what the hell happened to denzil? to the best of my knowledge, he released one album in the u.s. called "pub" (and quite a good album, i might add), had a very small mention in a rolling stone article a short while later, and disappeared forever. does anyone know what happened to him? does anybody else have that album? is he on the list? that's all carl. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Mon Nov 9 17:49:29 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 12:49:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Everyone participate! References: <19981109171749.1499.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <36472B29.2FC390C3@itl.ca> lorelei tremelor wrote: > it seems that b&s fans come from all types of musical realms > so while i recommend music to everyone, i can't assure you that > you'll like any of it. :( > > other bands i've been listening to lately: > mojave3 > rialto > sweet trip > > other favourite bands of mine: > slowdive > my bloody valentine > broadcast > pale saints > > any other shoegazer belle & sebastian fans out there? > > lorraine ;D Shoegazer forever! It's interesting, but for some reason B&S seem to have wide crossover appeal to shoegazer fans, though musically they seem to have no connection to the genre. Could just be they strike a chord with people with excellent musical taste :) Personal sneaker-investigating faves: Ride (very disappointed with H#1, cautiously anticipating Animal House) MBV (new record this century? Or is Kevin Shields just a total basket case now?) Boo Radleys (shoegazed once upon a time) Catherine Wheel (though their more recent Floyd-ian stuff is better) Spiritualized (do they count?) and from here a lot of stuff I like ceases technically counting as shoegazing... common denominator? Sonically interesting pop music. Always looking for recommendations of new music.... -- Frank Yang Imperial Tobacco Ltd. Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. In my CD player: The Candyskins - Death Of A Minor TV Celebrity -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From rap101 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 17:59:09 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:59:09 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Shoegazing is not dead In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia wrote: oh oh, i fear we're getting dangeraously close to that 'let's list our favourite bands' territory again. but never mind that. i gaze at my shoes, but only when i'm wearing my fabulous princess leia slippers... i don't think i've posted for a few days. i've been away and stuff (sorry i failed to meet you jake - it was always going to be tricky amongst 50000 people). i'm not feeling too well and haven't really got anything of interest to say, but i thought i'd post anyway to make sure my name stays fresh in your minds for when you're making that all-important list crush choice... :) so i'm doing the monday poem then? better get thinking. ooh, there's so many i want to force you all to read. sore throated kisses, archel x ps. i saw rem on jools holland on friday and wow! wow! michael stipe looked really quite stunning in sparkly eyes and a slash neck number, and they were just great. (celeb story: michael stipe was at the same radiohead gig i was at in brighton! as was ewan mcgregor! luckily i didn't know beforehand otherwise i would have probably missed much of the concert trying to see them.) xx > > Thanks Lorelei to rescue such a descriptive word as shoegazer. Yes, I was > one of them, though I don't stand anymore in the dancefloor staring > exactly at the floor and shaking my bobbed hair ...Some of my all time > favourites are in your list, My Bloody (the Kings), or Pale Saints, but > Ride used to be too, and Adorable and Swervedriver > > Arantxa > > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 18:03:02 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:03:02 EST Subject: Sinister: The Boy Done Wrong Again Message-ID: it is stevie cause they sang this at the nyc show +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Mon Nov 9 13:51:28 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:51:28 +-100 Subject: Sinister: Sacred items Message-ID: <01BE0C01.C28D66E0@Abonado-195-53-35-78.cat.es> Yesterday (I?m not joking) someone paid about 1000 pounds for four pieces of Elvis?s hair, which were put in auction at Barcelona?s record fair. If the Isobel?s change of hair were true, How much would you pay for something similar ? and for the silver pants ? At that fair it was impossible to find any rare material from B&S. I even asked in an english stand and the girl who answered me didn?t even knew them. This is the business world. -Two questions 1/ Brad, this Mozzer words are true ? 2/ (Sorry, is in spanish): Arantxa, Peter Miller o Jaume: en las notas interiores de "Sinister", me podriais traducir la frase: "Who pokled the figures to make her boss look good" ? no se que quiere decir "pokled". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 16:25:13 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:25:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Bathers Message-ID: <001001be0bfd$8772ed40$442fc22b@bond> A couple of people asked about the Bathers. I'm sure they've been discussed in details in past (CTA), but here's a wee snippet of a conversation I had with Kevan a while back (the question was Kevan, the bollocks is mine). >Can you run me through your guide to the essential >tracks on Kelvingrove Baby again? To be honest, I haven't really listened to it since I bought Sinister. I gave it a whirl last night whilst reading Breakfast At Tiffanys and its still a top album. Essential guide - Girlfriend, No Risk No Glory, Kelvingrove Baby,Once Upon A Time..., and Twelve all stick in my mind, but it really is an Album kind of album. You know, stick the thing on and listen to it as a whole. A couple of years ago lyrics of some of his songs were posted on the underground (the Glasgow one) as poetry, and they are pretty spectacular. More earnest than B&S, much more grown up. Whereas B&S makes me feel about 19, on the verge of life with it all before me, KB is more 28, in a nice flat with a certain amount of sucess and satisfaction in life, looking back as well as forward. It really is an album worth making an effort for. I have been told that there is a better Bathers album, and although I've got Sunpowder I haven't listened to it much. It would have to be pretty damn good to beat Kelvingrove Baby. Lurve Grooves: I think we covered this comprehensively, but what about some advice on getting the lady (or boy) back to your boudoir in the first place? I'm talking Belle & Sebastion seduction techniques - from the first eye-contact to that yawn-slide-grope hand manoeuvre. Michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 17:24:11 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 98 10:24:11 MST Subject: Sinister: shoegazing & field mice Message-ID: <9810099106.AA910639652@mail.newtimes.com> --any other shoegazer belle & sebastian fans out there?-- 1) shoegazers: check out all natural lemon and lime flavors (jersey) sugar plant (japan) 2) us listees interested in field mice darla is carrying this starting monday the 16th for $16.99 (2CD's)...darla people are quite sweet (www.darla.com)...they carry siesta and drive-in stuff. 3) san franciscans--saint etienne are here december 12th at slim's...get tix fast, they'll probably sell out...hope to see all ya swinging cocktails at combustible edison tonite. 4) black session patients--i will be in touch as soon as i check my mail and find a parcel from france... cheers.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Mon Nov 9 18:47:58 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:47:58 +0100 Subject: Sinister: other bands I like Message-ID: <379E3051639@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> Oh well this is a long list Black Box Recorder (the guy of the Auteurs ..and yes he had a project called Baader Meinhoff whever asked. But I have not heard them. Rialto Pulp Suede My Life Story Jack Placebo Radiohead BabyBird Mostly I am into quiet music ..with nice melodies ... I don't like anything too dancy or aggressive .... the latter is very popular here though, sadly..... I am really looking forward to tonight cos there will be my fave radioshow, FM4 heartbeat (broadcast from London) and this is where I discovered over half of the stuff I like including Belle and Sebastian .... love vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SANDRAD at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 18:53:57 1998 From: SANDRAD at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:53:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: various shite Message-ID: <01BE0BE8.673D6E70@SANDRA> Yes, thank you! I have nothing against furry parkas, but the idea that there are people out there imagining me in one, ewgawds! Give me leather any day. But I do assure you that sammi looks absolutely cuddable in this coat. And now she walk can around smiling in all her furry glory instead of incessantly asking me if she'll be committing a fashion faux pas if she wears it too early in the season! :-> And if anyone listened to our show Friday night... thank you. Alexandra -----Original Message----- From: carly marcoux [SMTP:idoruzine at xxx.com] Sent: Sunday, November 08, 1998 3:46 PM To: sinister at majordomo.net; nostromo30 at hotmail.com Subject: Re: Sinister: various shite Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 16:57:22 PST Reply-To: "donovan nuyen" alexdra duric wrote: Speaking of smiles... i was ear to ear with mine today when i got to take something out of the closet for winter! My fantastic faux fur long fuzzy black hooded parka!!! I felt like having a nice sled ride in the morning but alas, there was no snow! Is it as cold everywhere else as it is here in ontario canada? ****mais, beau monsieur donatien, c'est moi (sammi), the shy bunny who is alexandra's flatmate who wrote this! sandra only gave the fashionable advice that maybe i should be wearing my white bikini and husky's (husky's being white furry boots) and nothing else underneath it... i've been bothering everyone for like a month now asking if they thought it might be cold enough so i could wear it... and frankly when i have it on, i feel like a siberian princess... did anyone ever read hans christian anderson's "the snow queen"? a lovely winter story...! >yes i have this white parka with a fauz fur collar that i think was originally my sisters...it screams bjork/ micheal hutchence when i wear it....i like to go my local mcdonalds in it. --+****might i ask what you order? *sigh* pooka. xx sammi! & alexandra who are off to make chocolate chip cookies for a friend named seifker. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 19:10:39 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:10:39 PST Subject: Sinister: dirty dream #115 Message-ID: <19981109191041.11316.qmail@hotmail.com> look if we're going to be talking about belle and the boy dreams i've got one but i really shouldn't share it...i'll just tell you it involed me and isobel her bow and mr. ed. you figure it out. robbie ...but you can call me "daddy". ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 19:10:01 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:10:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinister : Denzil, shoe-gazing, and bowling. Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E384@NCMSERVER> Denzil was alive and well and in Manchester when I was lucky (?) enough to witness a fine two-star performance from him (although a performance of eighties wonder group 5-star would have been a treat) in the Hop & Grape, Manchester University Students Union. I think he may have been supporting Mr R Hitchcock of surreal story and spotty shirt fame. I thought I would always remember Denzil's set for one line, which was something to do with Sid James, but as I've clearly forgotten even that little detail, it would be slightly rich of me to make that claim. Anyway, having been charmed by the man's subtle wit, it was to much delight that I found a copy of his excellently titled album "Pub" in Vinyl Exchange in the same city. Even more exciting was the realisation that the cover featured, in glorious cheap technicolour-substitute, a foaming pint of beer. For £1.99 it was actually cheaper than a pint in London. If anyone wants a copy I suspect there are still about three trillion or so left in the store, although they may be used now to keep the door open on hot summers days (in Manchester?), along with several Blow Monkeys albums and a rare but still worthless copy of an album by The High. I hate to be party to anything involving lists, but as people have mentioned shoe-gazing, I thought I'd mention that The House of Love just could be the best band of that era. In fact I named them in a pressure-question-in-the-pub scenario a couple of weeks ago as my all-time indie band. B&S aren't vulgar enough, although as soon as they introduce what the unique Gary Crawley would describe as 'buzz-saw guitar' sounds into their music, they may fall under the majestic umbrella that is Indie. I have made an intriguing ten-pin bowling discovery. I can only bowl to certain types of music. At the beginning of the third and final game of a gripping contest on Saturday, the bowling alley people switched the music to a toe sliding finger waving seventies medley, during which I scored three consecutive strikes. Celine Dion (remixed) came on and I totally flunked. More seventies grooves were accompanied by a spare and a strike, and eighties stuff resulted in a disappointing end to the game. Does anyone know of any seventies theme bowling alleys where I can strut my ever so funky bowling flavas? Thanks to all those who cheered me up with crap jokes the other day. They were crap. But they cheered me up. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 19:19:43 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:19:43 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I want a man with lips just like mick jagger Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032FB1A0@amerwksnt01.xil.com> How great is your job when you spend the first two hours on Monday reading Sinister digests? Or should I ask, how boring is your job? Donovan: <> yes, sorry, that wasn't intended as a chew-out, i was only trying to explain why you're wrong... portishead never figured into the conversation, but indeed, they *are* better than mono now that you mention it. Who cares, it's only my lil opinion, nobody likes me anyway so forget it. And I don't look like Liz hurley - that was just another of my many misguided attempts at humor; truth is that I'm a dead-ringer for Barbara Windsor. Steady on, boys. Martin: <> It took exactly one month to reach this wee kitten in California, I was only on the verge of sending some hate mail to a mr david kitchen, demanding my money back you filthy thieves calling yourselves "jeepster recordings" ... when it came in the mail!!! viola. I knew they'd come through, just a matter of patience:-) Surely it's something to do with backorders or the jeepster people being really very busy right now, but have faith, it'll come... for those who don't know, the t-shirts have these cool little tags that say "Belle and Sebastian Fashion wear" which is kind of a neat concept. "House of B&S", they can start making cardigans and flares, even SILVER trousers with runway shows featuring the band sashaying up n down the catwalk... "this season, FEY is all the rage... nothing screams "'beat me up I'm a momma's boy!' more than brown corduroys and faded trainers" ....I'm just kidding, as surely you all have impeccable fashion sense. brad: <> stop right there. can this mean...brad?...I mean, reading OUT magazine...?..but...but... *sigh* Scratch one off the crush list oops you didn't read that. Whatever happened to Mark Cassarotto? Word had it that he'd flown to America for the NY shows, but we've yet to hear him recount his debaucherous tales of an Englishman in New york. anyway, i'll leave with the recommendation that anyone who's into pure stupid fun pop music check out Material Issue... not exactly underrated, i don't think they were ever even rated, but they were lovely while they lasted! ta! tara palmer-tompkinson-widmer (hmm did I just plagiarize? it really wasn't intentional!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From idoruzine at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 19:44:13 1998 From: idoruzine at xxx.com (carly marcoux) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 11:44:13 PST Subject: Sinister: various shite Message-ID: <19981109194413.8853.qmail@hotmail.com> Alright fellow sinisteriens, the word is that sandra and I have a rollerskating date on wednesday of this week with people whom i work with ... we are both debating whether or not to go... we are plum tired out from the weekend (in which we worked) and i still have to pay whether i go or not! What to do, what to do... Help us please... I suppose if we were going, sandra would wear leather and i would wear fur (i don't sound like such a shy bunny anymore do i)............... oh dear! and my dear dear donatien, huskies i know not where to buy... maybe at a smashing place like Valu-Villaaaggge or your local thrift store... they are basically sort of 70's throwback items now I believe... if you find them, feel lucky and wear them around the house with nothing on while drinking Fry's cocoa sweetened with sugar and monin chocolate mint syrup...mmmmmm! (some blueberry belgian waffles would be nice as well!) hmmm, and on the topic of the Snow Queen... couldn't our belle and seb (or maybe even stuart m and sarah? i think they're both adorable!) be the two lovers and re-enact the story line? but who would be the ice-y queeen...?! Seymour Stein, perhaps?????!!! ohhh where the time goes... and monsieur donatien, do you always make your dates pay for your macdonalds specials? or are they too busy, lovingly adoring you while you wear your michael hutchence/bjork looking jacket just so that they can sit and stare at you with stars in their dreamy eyes...! *sigh* french fries. xx sammi! (dreaming of blueberry belgian waffles and garlic eggplant and rice... boy, my stomach will surely be aching after this daydream... sort of like pickles before bed. ouch!) ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 19:49:04 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 14:49:04 EST Subject: Sinister: Re I want a man with lips like mick jagger Message-ID: <6b61ccf3.36474730@aol.com> Tara wrote: <> Would this be the same Mark that Stuart D dedicated Paper Boat to in the second NY show, to get him out of Lewisham ?? Ewwww Lewisham. !! why would anyone want to stay there.?? Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SANDRAD at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 20:11:00 1998 From: SANDRAD at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:11:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Do Belle & Sebastian Rollerskate? Message-ID: <01BE0BF3.2AAEF4A0@SANDRA> Um, yea, if they do, I just might consider spending my Wednesday evening falling on my rear... Although curiosity beckons me to question, is rollerskating a distinctly North American Dirk Diggler type throwback to the 70s, or do you brits still do it too? Alexandra -----Original Message----- From: carly marcoux [SMTP:idoruzine at xxx.com] Sent: Monday, November 09, 1998 2:44 PM To: idoruzine at hotmail.com; sinister at majordomo.net; nostromo30 at hotmail.com; SANDRAD at accu-staff.com Subject: RE: Sinister: various shite Alright fellow sinisteriens, the word is that sandra and I have a rollerskating date on wednesday of this week with people whom i work with ... we are both debating whether or not to go... we are plum tired out from the weekend (in which we worked) and i still have to pay whether i go or not! What to do, what to do... Help us please... I suppose if we were going, sandra would wear leather and i would wear fur (i don't sound like such a shy bunny anymore do i)............... oh dear! and my dear dear donatien, huskies i know not where to buy... maybe at a smashing place like Valu-Villaaaggge or your local thrift store... they are basically sort of 70's throwback items now I believe... if you find them, feel lucky and wear them around the house with nothing on while drinking Fry's cocoa sweetened with sugar and monin chocolate mint syrup...mmmmmm! (some blueberry belgian waffles would be nice as well!) hmmm, and on the topic of the Snow Queen... couldn't our belle and seb (or maybe even stuart m and sarah? i think they're both adorable!) be the two lovers and re-enact the story line? but who would be the ice-y queeen...?! Seymour Stein, perhaps?????!!! ohhh where the time goes... and monsieur donatien, do you always make your dates pay for your macdonalds specials? or are they too busy, lovingly adoring you while you wear your michael hutchence/bjork looking jacket just so that they can sit and stare at you with stars in their dreamy eyes...! *sigh* french fries. xx sammi! (dreaming of blueberry belgian waffles and garlic eggplant and rice... boy, my stomach will surely be aching after this daydream... sort of like pickles before bed. ouch!) ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Nov 9 19:52:39 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:52:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Viva Zapato! Message-ID: <01be0c1a$81789940$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Evenin' all. Just thought I'd exceed our One a Day Limit in order to put Wee Bobbie's mind at rest. I wasn't offended by your Baader Meinhof comment, I just wanted to show off a bit. I do know a bit about the Baader Meinhoffers, but not much, and it's all very hazy. But it was definitely shit scary. Not so much due to what they did, but because of the apparent ease with which certain people can go from ranting and raving to "direct action". To try and explain in terms that we can all understand: imagine if the Duke suddenly decided he'd had enough of spouting sprouts about pop and got involved in some "direct action" - such as forming a group, probably with his teddy bears. It would be terrible, wouldn't it? I bet he'd do that Kevin Rowland "rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" thing and have foppish hair. And yet it's such an easy move to make. Or so it would seem. I have read books about terrorism though. When I asked if they had any in Burton library they sent me to the taoism section. How we laughed, the librarian and I. If I buy "Ghetto Superstar" by Pras out of the Fugees, will you all laugh at me and call me names? Are Mercury Rev post-rock? I've been waiting for that Gene Clark compilation for ages, but now it's out I'm just not in the mood. I've just been listening to Red Snapper in concert on the radio. I've seen them, you know. I like the trumpet player. Fluffy! I got your tape. The postman left it on the stairs, due to the fact that "Sister Disco" is not written on the postbox. My lovely wife has now rumbled one of my nom-de-nets. She was pretty impressed when I played her the song of the same name by the 70s WHO. I haven't listened to the tape yet, due to the pressure of work, but I'm suitably impressed by the extensive sleeve notes and the tape cover made from a Preston bus timetable. Thank you very much. I have a feeling my life is never going to be the same again. The circus is in town! I'm so excited, and I just can't hide it! I went for a walk around the site this afternoon, it smells of exotic animal poo! It was a bit like the closing scenes of Tod Browning's "Freaks", only without the rain. And that was just the people putting the big top up! I dread to think what delights the show holds in store. I wove circwuses! Are the Lo-Fidelity All Stars shit? It's certainly a shit name. They're supposed to be treading the boards here on Thursday, and I'm wondering whether it's worth sacrificing my weekly attempt to sit through an entire episode of the X Files for. Actually, I managed it last week, but I didn't know what the fuck was going on. Brad, the Dukester is currently claiming to be unsubscribed. That's why we make fun of him so much. You'll have to go by the official channels: tangents at lineone.net that address is taken from THE book, so it must be right. Someone was wondering how the Duke signs his book. Mine says "to Peter, keep the faith, with love, Alistair x". Stop smirking at the back, it's true. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 21:53:38 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:53:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: shoeys Message-ID: Hey, to all you shoey B+S fans, in England the shoey revival appears to be being led by a band called Inner Sleeve. So far they've released a split single on Fierce Panda and done gigs at the Bull & Gate and Borderline, but the NME love them (probably because they're all picture editor Neil Thompson's mates, or something). The good news is, they're very good. Intermittenly swirly and hard- edged, which is a more complicated way of saying... they sound like early Ride. Good though. Watch out for 'em. Martin Horsfield +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 21:55:43 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 21:55:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Moose Message-ID: Sorry, I posted this the wrong way first time. Hats off to Keith McL for giving a mention to Moose, a truly underated band. Were they really on Virgin in America? I saw them live at the Clapham Grand a few years back and though they were utterly dire (apart from the artful movies projected behind them), I perservered and now love them almost as much as B&S. Among their many claims to fame is making one of the only listenable records that Delores Cranberry has ever squawked on (though with typical hauteur, la O'Rierdan blames supporting Moose for The Cranberries' initial pigeonholing with the shoegazing 'scene' which set their crossover back by, ooohh, months). 'This River Never Will Run Dry', 'So Much Love So Little Time', a lush version of 'Everybody's Talking'; go search a bargain bin for their work. Keith, are there any sites dedicated to Russel and co? Next post: Green On Red, forgotten men of the paisley underground... Hats off to Keith McL for giving a mention to Moose, a truly underated band. Were they really on Virgin in America? I saw them live at the Clapham Grand a few years back and though they were utterly dire (apart from the artful movies projected behind them), I perservered and now love them almost as much as B&S. Among their many claims to fame is making one of the only listenable records that Delores Cranberry has ever squawked on (though with typical hauteur, la O'Rierdan blames supporting Moose for The Cranberries' initial pigeonholing with the shoegazing 'scene' which set their crossover back by, ooohh, months). 'This River Never Will Run Dry', 'So Much Love So Little Time', a lush version of 'Everybody's Talking'; go search a bargain bin for their work. Keith, are there any sites dedicated to Russel and co? Next post: Green On Red, forgotten men of the paisley underground... -- Martin Horsfield +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 22:00:28 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:00:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Time I got Busted For Pocession of Reggae In-Reply-To: <199811091755.RAA08685@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001be0c2c$5ce8af40$910f93c3@whelan> Evenin' all.... Before I start replying, I just thought I'd point out that noone's mentioned the luscious Mr Miller when trying to suss out who the leaders of the list crush league could be. I'd of said he's a dead cert for the mainland Europe list member who's in joint lead wouldn't you all ?. Oh and I think Fluffy is one of the others cos you all love her, even when she's telling you you all smell, now come one, you know you do. Bill wrote.... "I have a cassette from Felt called The Pictorial Jackson Review. I've had it for three years - there are two songs on it that are really wonderful and show clearly their influence on Stuart - they are 'Ivory Past' and 'Apple Boutique.' I recommend getting this record. Could anyone recommend another Felt record? They tend to be pretty expensive here in the States." I have that album on good old, not so crackily vinyl and it is indeed fantastic, I could do without the epic tampon advert music inspired Duffy stuff on the b-side though. I recommend..... no I demand that you get Forever Breathes the Lonely Word, cos it's top banana. I've just ordered three Felt albums from a record shop in London, 7.99 each, but I bet they haven't got the sods. Ahem... Johnny Wonny wrote... "Dexy's Midnight Runners - Er, shit. Can't think of a single thing. And there I was thinking how easy it must be to be a Duke. Well it isn't. So just remember kids. This is not a game." How about the fact that Searching For The Young Soul Rebels was one of the best albums of the Eighties and they should have packed up and flipped off after it, instead of releasing all that Come On Eileen shite ?. Lorraine wrote... "it seems that b&s fans come from all types of musical realms so while i recommend music to everyone, i can't assure you that you'll like any of it. :( other bands i've been listening to lately: mojave3 rialto sweet trip other favourite bands of mine: slowdive my bloody valentine broadcast pale saints any other shoegazer belle & sebastian fans out there?" Well I wouldn't call myself a fan of shoegazing, but I do love the first two Pale Saints album s with a passion and I love early Boo Radleys as well, Ichabod and I is pretty Shoegazerish I think. Right, I'm buggering off now Bye Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Mon Nov 9 22:34:01 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (horseradish) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 17:34:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: moose Message-ID: <36476DD8.2485CA97@bignet.net> martin wrote- >'This River Never Will Run Dry', 'So Much Love So Little >Time', a lush >version of 'Everybody's Talking'; go search a bargain bin >for their >work. Keith, are there any sites dedicated to Russel and >co? this is the only website i have found for them and the only reason i know they have a new record completed. it is not extensive, mostly a discography really. http://www.puc.edu/Departments/Art/gallery/James_Reeder/moose/index.html other shoegazey types that were listenable -the first two lilys records were homages to kevin shields -the swirlies(they seem to only own one mbv record-> isn't anything) -revolver( the singer was a pretty boy but their first proper lp was lovely) -bark psychosis(brainy and brilliant, i guess they weren't really shoegazers but they were before post-rock) -chapterhouse(former members being resurrected in mojave 3 and cuba, maybe the worst second album in history though) -midway still(dreadful except for their cover of 'you made me realise') -secret shine(one of the best bands ever on sarah) as far as recent stuff i like i guess i like the local stuff - godzuki and his name is alive, both have released excellent albums in the past few months. neither sound like B&S but godzuki's is tons of fun with kraftwerk keyboards sorta like 'super electric' era stereolab i think and his name is alive continue their constant re-invention with a weirded out take on 60s pop mixed with beck-like craziness sprinkled with some hendrix guitar:) keith mcl +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 21:34:58 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 21:34:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Lewisham and Casarotto References: <6b61ccf3.36474730@aol.com> Message-ID: <36476002.785B@seahouses.u-net.com> Niceaction at aol.com wrote: > > Tara wrote: > > < for the NY shows, but we've yet to hear him recount his debaucherous tales > of an Englishman in New york.>> He was there - we met him and Anastasia in Other Music, and later at the shows. They also came to the Korova milk bar but sat at the other end of the room and so we didn't say much to eachother. He seemed happy though. > Ewwww Lewisham. !! why would anyone want to stay there.?? Rachel and I lived in Hither Green for a while, Lewisham was fine, very easy to get into London itself, and fine to look round when you didn't want to venture any further. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bkim0 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 9 22:42:43 1998 From: bkim0 at xxx.edu (FourJacksandaJill) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 17:42:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: I saw Moose...with another fine Scottish band. Message-ID: <199811092242.RAA45572@dept.english.upenn.edu> Yep, I saw them open for the Cocteau Twins at the Tower Theater in Philly a few years ago. They were amazing I must say, totally stunning, in this countryesque shoegazer way (but more rockin' and much better than Mojave 3 who are just not up to snuff). I met them afterwrads at the meet n' greet backstage--and although it seems as if they started drinking as soon as they stepped off of the stage they were all really swell guys. I talked to Lincoln the most. I heard demos of the new album and it's kidna strange--more sophisticated maybe? Still seemed great though. I used to shoegaze but I never liked Ride, Chapterhouse...I always use this made-up song to make fun of those early hazy days. Musically you should alter between delayed, chorus-y notes and loud distorted delayed chrous-y chords. "MUSIC THE SHOEGAZE BY" (words/music: Benjamin Xavier Kim) I think that I Could fly so high Could touch the sky Oh me oh my It's time to die Just don't ask why I hear you sigh And it's goodbye (sung in a fragile Brit accent) Presto! Instant shoegaze classic circa 1991. Xavier -- BXK "It's recess everywhere bkim0 at dept.english.upenn.edu but in his heart." http://www.english.upenn.edu/~bkim0 --Ralph Wiggum X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X---X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 9 23:10:25 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:10:25 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Wot no smut?!? In-Reply-To: <000001be0c2c$5ce8af40$910f93c3@whelan> Message-ID: On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Gary Done wrote: > > Before I start replying, I just thought I'd point out that noone's mentioned > the luscious Mr Miller when trying to suss out who the leaders of the list > crush league could be. I'd of said he's a dead cert for the mainland Europe > list member who's in joint lead wouldn't you all ?. Oh and I think Fluffy is > one of the others cos you all love her, even when she's telling you you all > smell, now come one, you know you do. Well I'm not giving anything away. Not because it's secret, but just to build up the tension a bit. We currently have one person from England and one from mainland Europe on 5 votes each, and another English person storming into the lead on 7. The closest from the other side of the Atlantic is on a measly 3 votes. But that may change when I add my votes in... I may well post the standings tomorrow, but it depends if any of the main contenders get any more votes (believe me, it matters) so get them in quick! On a completely unrelated note, is anyone going to the Salako gig in London on Thursday? And if so, anyone fancy meeting up before hand? (Actually a more important question is does anyone know if it'll finish in time for me to get the last train home at midnight?) The only time I shoegaze is when I get nervous talking to women... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 9 23:18:42 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 18:18:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Fey Fox Riders/Recommendations, etc. Message-ID: <36477852.C60C4316@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hmm, Just the other day I finished reading a novel entitled "Voyage of the Fox Rider," by one Dennis L. McKiernan. In the book, the main character is a faerie (sometimes referred to in McKiernan's works and others as "the Fey") called a Pysk. Now Pysks, apparently (for I've never actually seen one) are perhaps one foot in height, and they ride on foxes (hence the title). It's a very good book, in a sort of Tolkien-esque way. I would recommend it, and I'm sure Fey Fox Riders would appeal to certain B&S fans... Though I have tried to shy away from posting Top 10 lists, I don't see as much of a problem with the recommendations thing. Especially if someone who discovered the Field Mice and the Cat's Miaow through this list, I think it could have some pretty positive outcomes =) My recommendation is the new Steinbecks CDEP on Summershine Records. I recommend this because it is the first band I've heard compared to B&S that actually vaguely fits the comparison. Plus various members of the Steinbecks have helped the Cat's Miaow out, and been in various side-projects and played on solo recordings, etc. Anyway, the new EP is good scrummy pop with organs and a trombone and other gooey arrangements. I wasn't expecting all that much from this record, as I didn't think their debut album all that great. It was nice, but it didn't touch their new EP. If you're interested in what I was listening to a couple weeks ago, and my favorite albums, etc, check . There's a bit of shoegazer stuff in there, though I wouldn't liken Belle and Sebastian in any way to that sound. I feel as if I ought to say something about the Sha La La mailing list since John brought it up. Don't want to leave anyone in the dark. E-mail me if you want to know more, I'll leave it at that. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Mon Nov 9 23:34:31 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 18:34:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: other bands I like References: <379E3051639@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> Message-ID: <36477BFE.C9C@javanet.com> nobody here knows me but I'm evan but you can call me evanbear if there are any evans on here um...wont give long intro in this message but here are a couple bands that are new or fairly new that someone on here might like (this is a long detailed list, if i should not do something like this again cause its too long just let me know) Secret Stars- just a boy and a girl with guitars and a little keyboard that makes pretty noises while they sing Ida (who plenty people prolly know)- just a couple boys and a couple girls with guitars, violin, and drums and stuff that sing real pretty (the drums dont sing the people do) Pernice Brothers- no girls (except on piano, occaisonal backup singing and some on strings and one on string harp)but an old boy hes like 30 or something with one of the pretiest voices you ever will hear, i wont try to describe the music cause all the bands that are easy to compare to them suck for the most part and its an insult to lump Pernice Bros. with them (the band is basically Joe Pernice w/ various cool people like Peyton Pinkerton from New Radiant Storm Kings (shoegazers i spose) and Thom Monahan from Lily's who are freaks) Class- i hear there was a brittish band by this name too but this one is somebody else from massachusetts, boy and girl with guitar a violin and some keeyboard thingies, some people would prolly hate his voice which is not sweet at all, quite rough and flat but the girl has a very sweet voice so their harmonies are painfully perty, best song=Feeling Fine "i was happy when i put my new record on, i was sad as i listened to it all alone", plus they cover Field Mice song "This Love Is Not Wrong" Vulgar Boatmen- just boys but wunnerful boys singing prretty mostly acoustic countryish pop songs that make me bounce around like B&S do, great driving music too (at least the album i have whicch is You And Your Sister, i havent hear dthe other albums) um...cant really think of any oher currrent people ive been listening to obscure of semi-obsucre 80's stuff mostly lately so im not in a very modern mindset anyone who doesn't know Go-Betweens many people wouldd prolly love them ive also been listening to Jazz Butcher, Orange Juice, Game Theory, Let's Active, Martin Newell (finally finally finally found an album of his (Greatest Living Englishman), Smithereens, but mostly Go-Betweens which is a daily (usually Talullah or 16 Lovers Lane) i would reccomend Talullah to anyone who doesnt have it its an aboslute pop masterpiece (and there are happy oboe solos) ----Ev http://www.angelfire.com/ma/dixiecluck" (has a mostly complete list of what i listen to but most of the links dont work yet) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nanettee at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 00:13:11 1998 From: Nanettee at xxx.com (Nanettee at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 19:13:11 EST Subject: Sinister: nanette's been listening to Message-ID: <81e6bfd.36478517@aol.com> *perks up ears and delurks* favorite bands? hmmmmm...I've been listening to the Field Mice a lot. I'm starting to understand why everyone speaks so highly of them. It's music to cuddle to. Unfortunately (sigh) I have nobody to cuddle with at this point. I became interested in Momus when he opened for B&S. I've picked up two of his CDs and they make me laugh hysterically. Brilliant stuff. I've also been listening to Yo La Tengo, and I've been going through another Smiths phase. (This happens every few months or so.) Oh, and lots of This Mortal Coil. It's been a rainy November thus far (this is typical in Chicago, I should expect it) and This Mortal Coil is gorgeous rainy-day music. We had our first *real* snow on Saturday night and it was really pretty. I had to drive in it...I listened to the Cocteau Twins "Treasure" and that made it even prettier. Other recent favorites: Quasi Elliott Smith Saint Etienne Cat Power ...and so much more. i hate making lists 'cause I always forget in the middle. ah well. xo, love, nanette. *return to lurk mode* Visit Nanette's online journal at www.geocities.com/soho/workshop/7432/!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 00:48:20 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 19:48:20 -0500 Subject: Sinister: b&s dream Message-ID: <36478D51.22C4@javanet.com> i had a dream about b&s once well they sort of made a cameo it was before i had any idea what they looked like i was walking into an amusement park (dunno what the brit term is but rollercoaster rides and what not) and there were a group of midgets holding up a sign that said "scottish Rock Band" and I knew in my dream that it was them weird i spose but nothing compared to my dream of lazines cancer and hypodermic needles and nails in people's feet or the one about the dead body and construction workers and snow angels ----Ev np-Olivia Tremor Control-Dusk At Cubist Castle (np is a tradition in the message board (newsgroup type thingie) i posted to on aol for years, meaning now playing as in what you are listening to ill do this until someone tells me not to) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 00:56:19 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 16:56:19 PST Subject: Sinister: Dexy's Midnight Runners Message-ID: <19981110005619.2453.qmail@hotmail.com> http://www.spiritonline.com/dexys/sound.html Check out the MIDI version of Come On Aileen. It'll bring a tear to your eye. ~Rachael Bristol ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SANDRAD at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 03:12:38 1998 From: SANDRAD at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 22:12:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: other bands I like Message-ID: <01BE0C2E.1308DF10@SANDRA> Pernice Brothers were also once the Scud Mountain Boys, with a beautiful slide guitar and a bass player who made his own guitars. Joe Pernice was the lovely vocals. They put out three albums, the last two were put out as a double CD on subpop in the states. The first, Pine Box, was recorded on a single mike, and is amazing when you think of that. A limited vinyl only release, with an amazing cover of Wichita Lineman. Thought you'd want to know, Alexandra Pernice Brothers- no girls (except on piano, occaisonal backup singing and some on strings and one on string harp)but an old boy hes like 30 or something with one of the pretiest voices you ever will hear, i wont try to describe the music cause all the bands that are easy to compare to them suck for the most part and its an insult to lump Pernice Bros. with them (the band is basically Joe Pernice w/ various cool people like Peyton Pinkerton from New Radiant Storm Kings (shoegazers i spose) and Thom Monahan from Lily's who are freaks) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 10 04:20:48 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:20:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: you love me really, you just don't know it yet Message-ID: i'm not quoting today, i'm too tired, so i'll just recap what other people said. philippe said: i have a blue goldfish named megan. oddly enough, i'm named megan too! though i hope your goldfish doesn't do naughty things with your pink goldfish (honey), that would be rude. then brad asked how pretty i was. and no one else bother to anwser. that probably falls into the if you can't say something nice about someone, don't say anything at all. and he called me magnetic fields megan. this refers to my website, i'm not in the band (someone asked). it may also refer to the gravitational force with which i seem to attract rabid squirrels. there are a lot of them you know. i was going to try and drum up more votes, but tis no use. i live in the americas, and apparently the people on these shores are unworthy of votes. still, i got one vote i was after so i don't mind so much. ;) hehe. i never gave a tour journal of seeing belle and sebastian. this is partially cause the people i was with wrote our experiences out, including every embarassing thing i may have said or done, and also cause i don't really want to write this out. it's part laziness, and partially cause there are some things i don't really want to remember clearly. i think i'd be happies if instead of having memories flood back when i read about it, it all lives as kind of a blur of happiness in my mind. so i don't have to remember the particulars, but the overall feeling, which is the best part anyway. ok, gushiness over, i'll bottle the sentiment right back up where it belongs. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 05:19:51 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 00:19:51 EST Subject: Sinister: something that i do not believe Message-ID: <19981109.233522.8231.6.carrick44@juno.com> Evening all, Hope all is well in your neck of the woods. Things are okay around here. Hopefully get some rain tomorrow. Its been a while. Shame rain can't be spread around a bit more. Too much in England. Too little in Palestine. Way too much in Honduras. Thing in the paper today about a lady who got swept out to sea and lived to tell. She made a raft and survived on oranges and coconuts that floated by. Note to PJ and Keith. Some fellow around here painted this large mural that consists of all the words from Tommy. I suggest you get here before he paints it over some time in December. And Moe Tucker is playing here on Wednesday. Maybe you can get her to play your hometown. All she asks for in return is a 6-pack of Budweiser. Glad to hear of the forth coming Modern Rock Song EP. I remember about a year ago reading a little blurb in some music weekly about this EP. And it had this great picture besides it. This guy with a bike in, I assume, Glasgow, all smiles. He was wearing some sort of funny hat. Does anyone have one of these? I'd love to have one. I like to picture myself riding a bike around Glasgow dodging buses driven by daydreaming boys. Maybe in the next world. I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, if so, I'm sorry, but in the latest issue of US magazine Magnet there's a two page spread on B&S. Pretty accurate for a change. It basically consists of an interview with Richard. He is "into rock and roll". Mentions how he sits at home listening to Husker Du. And he also mentions how Stuart Murdoch leaves the house early in the morning and doesn't get back till late at night and no one really knows what he's getting up to. And he wants it none that the band are a bunch hard-partyin' drunkards. Stumbling drunkards. There's also a little insight into the whole Chickfactor affair. Tantalizing stuff. Shilough just told me that his friend in Athens had the pleasure of selling our Isobel a Left Banke LP. After hearing that she was ill, I was thinking I might give her this Francoise Hardy LP that I have on my wall. But I didn't. Anyone else feeling ill? Maybe I'll give it to you instead. I should start being kind and considerate to my friends and loved ones before I start giving away things to the stars. To those to the West of me, pleasant dreams. To those to the East, get to work! Carrick ______________ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimmybryant at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 07:13:38 1998 From: jimmybryant at xxx.com (jimmy bryant) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:13:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Lord Anthony ?1yrics? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981110021338.006e2a14@pop.mindspring.com> OK y'all, I have listened to this song over 100 times in the 2 weeks since the Athens show and I still don't know half the lyrics of this song but I am gonna post by my own translation from tmy recording. There are tapes going out to a few of you already so if you have any suggestions on these lyrics please post them to this list. I put in parentheses the lyrics that I don't think are correct, but that's what it sounds like to me: Lord Ant(h)ony (Hunting in beauty school, get your own bag) now you are cool or are you still (jebunking off) though you're a tough it's all gone wrong again you got to (hold hands) But the teachers got no control Boys aren't lying You wont stay quiet Or you will die Returning, the back of the gym Smoke another one, the chances are slim, 'Cause here they come again They got you on the prowl You're tasting blood again At least it's your own When will you realize it doesn't pay To be smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys, Shut your mouth, start kicking the football, (Buy all new teeth) you were out for a week You may as well take it in the guts, it could get worse just take it in the guts, it could get worse just take it in the guts, it could get worse just take it in the guts, it kind of hurts there (to me) You'll soon be old enough to leave the man Without a notion of a care You'll leave two fingers in the air (To me again) Tony, you bit of a mess (melt to) tow the rope under your dress But if the kids could see you they would pass you right by The mascara running over your eye Why don't you realize it doesn't pay To be smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys, Shut your mouth, start kicking the football, (Bang on a tear) you were out for a week They call you lord Antony (in pain) it could be worse Lord Antony but hey it could be worse Lord Antony but hey it could be worse Lord Antony but hey it kind of suits you anyway You'll soon be old enough to leave the man Without a notion of a care You'll leave two fingers in the air (To me again) end thats the best I can do jimmy thin_king "I read bad poetry into your machine I save your messages just to hear your voice" R.E.M. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From K970156 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 10:10:00 1998 From: K970156 at xxx.uk (Shelley Feltham) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:10:00 GMT +0100 Subject: Sinister: b&s dream In-Reply-To: <36478D51.22C4@javanet.com> Message-ID: <610C472813@neptune.kingston.ac.uk> Dear Listees, How are you? As everyone always seems to be having B and S dreams I tried really hard to have one too last night, I played their stuff before bed etc. Here is the dream I came up with: I tucked my hair back behind my ears and wore sunglasses and a cap in an attempt to look like Huey from the Fun Loving Criminals and was disappointed that I only looked like Fast. I went to a recording of the Jo Whiley show and saw Scarey Spice, who was standing on a balcony and a load of second rate UK comedians like Phil Jupitus etc who were also in the audience. This dream was a complete waste of time. Does anyone out there know how to control what they dream of? Also I want to ask who people's heroes are, who would you most like to be if you weren't yourself? I would like to be Warren from This Life, if anyone remembers him. He is cool cos he drinks till he's drunk and then goes out and gets into trouble, but wears a nice suit in the daytime and is very tidy. And cos he's sweet and always worries that people don't like him. Either that or Jello Biafra because he never sold out, even if he is a bit fatter these days. Anyway, speak to you all soon, Shelley We saw shadows of the morning light, shadows of the evening sun, till the shadows and the light were one. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Tue Nov 10 10:13:04 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:13:04 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Fw: 1998 Darwin Awards (fwd) Message-ID: I know it's long but really, it's so funny, especially no.12 I thought you peeps might like it ! dee ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 13:02:43 +0000 (GMT) From: Denise Power To: tom o'doherty Subject: Fw: 1998 Darwin Awards (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 17:49:17 -0000 From: someone To: fjon , denise , nuala Subject: Fw: 1998 Darwin Awards "little green men do ok, it's the faeries' revenge they say" -----Original Message----- From: Conor Rapple To: cullenb at connect.ie Date: 05 November 1998 16:03 Subject: Fwd: 1998 Darwin Awards >hi girlie >here's stuff > >> >>1998 Darwin Awards >> >>They have finally been released! >> >>For those not familiar with the Darwin Award - It's an annual honor >>given to the person who did the universal human gene pool the biggest >>service by getting killed in the most extraordinarily stupid way. As >>always, competition this year has been keen again. Some candidates >>appear to have trained their whole lives for this event. >> >>The Darwin Awards Nominees: >> >> 1. In September in Detroit, a 41-year-old man got stuck and >>drowned in two feet of water after squeezing head first through an >>18-inch wide sewer grate to retrieve his car keys. >> >> 2. In October, a 49-year-old San Francisco stockbroker, who "totally >>zoned when he ran," according to his wife, accidentally jogged off a >>200-foot high cliff on his daily run. >> >> 3. Buxton, NC: A man died on a beach when an 8-foot-deep hole he had >>dug into the sand caved in as he sat inside it. Beachgoers said >>Daniel Jones, >>21, dug the hole for fun, or protection from the wind, and had been >>sitting in a beach chair at the bottom Thursday afternoon when it >>collapsed, burying him beneath 5 feet of sand. People on the beach, >>on the >>outer banks, used their hands and shovels, trying to claw their way to >>Jones, a resident of Woodbridge,VA, but could not reach him. >> >>It took rescue workers using heavy equipment almost an hour to free >>him while about 200 people looked on. Jones was pronounced dead at a >>hospital. >> >> 4. In February, Santiago Alvarado, 24, was killed in Lompoc, CA, as >>he fell face-first through the ceiling of a bicycle shop he was >>burglarizing. >> >>Death was caused when the long flashlight he had placed in his mouth >>(to keep his hands free) rammed into the base of his skull as he hit >>the floor. >> >> 5. According to police in Dahlonega, GA, ROTC cadet Nick Berrena, >>20, was stabbed to death in January by fellow cadet Jeffrey Hoffman, >>23 who was trying to prove that a knife could not penetrate the flak >>vest Berrena was wearing. >> >> 6. Sylvester Briddell, Jr., 26, was killed in February in >>Selbyville, Del., as he won a bet with friends who said he would not >>put a revolver loaded with four bullets into his mouth and pull the >>trigger. >> >> 7. In February, according to police in Windsor, Ont., Daniel Kolta, >>27, and Randy Taylor, 33, died in a head-on collision, thus earning a >>tie in the game of chicken they were playing with their snowmobiles. >> >> 8. AUGUSTA, ME - Four people were injured in a string of bizarre >>accidents. >> >>Sherry Moeller was admitted with a head wound caused by flying >masonry= >>, >>Tim Vegas was diagnosed with a mild case of whiplash and cuts on his >>chest, arms and face, >>Bryan Corcoran suffered torn gum tissue, >>and Pamela Klesick's first two fingers of her right hand had been >>bitten off. >> >>Moeller had just dropped her husband off for his first day of work >>and, in addition to a good-bye kiss, she flashed her breasts at him. >>"I'm still not sure why I did it," she said later. "I was really close >>to the car, so I didn't think anyone would see. Besides, it couldn't >>have been for more than two seconds." However, cab driver Vegas did >>see, and lost control of >>his cab, running over the curb and into the corner of the Johnson >>Medical >>Building. Inside, Klesick, a dental technician, was cleaning >>Corcoran's teeth. The crash of the cab against the building made her >>jump, tearing Corcoran's gums with a cleaning pick. In shock, he bit >>down, severing two fingers from Klesick's hand. Moeller's wound was >>caused by a falling piece of the medical building. >> >> 9. TAOS, NM - A woman went to a poison control center after eating >>three birth-control vaginal inserts. Her English was so bad she had to >>draw a picture describing how she believed she had poisoned herself. A >>translator >>arrived shortly thereafter and confirmed doctors' suspicions. Marie >>Valishnokov thought the inserts were some kind of candy or gum, being >>unable to read the foil wrappers. After the third one, she realized >>something was wrong when her throat and mouth began to fill with a >>sour-tasting foam. She ran for the Poison Control Center, only a few >>blocks away where doctors were able to flush the foam from her mouth, >>throat, and stomach with no ill effects. >> >> 10. TACOMA, WA - Kerry Bingham, had been drinking with several >>friends when one of them said they knew a person who had >>bungee-jumped from the Tacoma Narrows Bridge in the middle of traffic. >>The conversation grew more heated and a least 10 men trooped along >>the walkway of the bridge at 4:30 a.m. >>Upon arrival at the midpoint of the bridge they discovered that no >>one had >>brought bungee rope. Bingham, who had continued drinking, volunteered >>and pointed out that a coil of cable had been left near the railing. >>Bingham's >>leg and the other end was tied to the bridge. >> >>His fall lasted 40 feet before the cable tightened and tore his foot >>off at the ankle. He miraculously survived his fall into the icy >>river water >>and was rescued by two nearby fishermen. "All I can say,"said >>Bingham, "is that God was watching out for me on that night. There's >>just no other explanation for it." Bingham's foot was never located. >> >> 11. On February 3, 1990, a Renton, Washington man tried to commit a >>robbery. This was probably his first attempt, as suggested by the fact >>that he had no previous record of violent crime, and by his terminally >>stupid choices as listed below: >>1. The target was H&J Leather & Firearms, a gun shop; >>2. The shop was full of customers, in a state where a >>substantial portion of the adult population is licensed to carry >>concealed handguns in public >> places; >>3. To enter the shop, he had to step around a marked patrol car >>parked at the front door; >>4. An officer in uniform was standing next to the counter, >>having coffee before reporting to duty. Upon seeing the officer, >>the would-be robber announced a holdup and fired a few wild shots. >>The officer and a clerk promptly returned fire, removing him >>from the gene pool. Several other customers also drew their guns, >>but didn't fire. No one else was hurt. >> >> 12. In France, Jacques LeFevrier left nothing to chance when he >>decided to commit suicide. He stood at the top of a tall cliff and >>tied a noose around his neck. He tied the other end of the rope to a >>large rock. He drank some poison and set fire to his clothes. He even >>tried to shoot himself at the last moment. He jumped and fired the >>pistol. >> >>The bullet missed him completely and cut through the rope above him. >>Free of the threat of hanging, he plunged into the sea. The sudden >>dunking extinguished the flames and made him vomit the poison. He was >>dragged out of the water by a kind fisherman, and was taken to >>hospital, where he died - of hypothermia. >> >>DARWIN AWARD HONORABLE MENTIONS >> (1) In Guthrie, Okla., in October, Jason Heck tried to kill a >>millipede with a shot from his .22-caliber rifle, but the bullet >>ricocheted off a rock near the hole and hit pal Antonio Martinez in >>the head, fracturing his skull. >> >> (2) In Elyria, Ohio, in October, Martyn Eskins, attempting to clean >>outc obwebs in his basement, declined to use a broom in favor of a >>propane torch and caused a fire that burned the first and second >>floors of his house. >> >> (3) Paul Stiller, 47, was hospitalized in Andover Township, NJ, in >>September, and his wife Bonnie was also injured, by a quarter-stick of >>dynamite that blew up in their car. While around at 2 AM, the bored >>couple >>lit the dynamite and tried to toss it out the window to see what would >>happen, but they apparently failed to notice that the window was >closed= >>. >> >>AND THE WINNER IS.... Japan Times -- April 16, 1997 >> >>"The government must crack down on this disgusting craze of >>'Pumping'", a spokesman for the Nakhon Ratchasima hospital told >>reporters. "If this >>perversion catches on, it will destroy the cream of Thailand's >>manhood." >> >>He was speaking after the remains of 13 year-old Charnchai >>Puanmuangpak had been rushed into the hospital's emergency room. "Most >> 'Pumpers' use a >>standard bicycle pump," he explained, "inserting the nozzle far up >>their rectum, giving themselves a rush of air, creating a momentary >>high. This act is a sin against God." >> >>It appears that the young Charnchai took it further still. He started >>using a two-cylinder foot pump, but even that wasn't exciting enough >>for him, so he boasted to friends that he was going to try the >>compressed air >>hose at a nearby gasoline station. They dared him to do it, so, under >>cover of darkness, he snuck in. Not realizing how powerful the machine >>was, he inserted the tube deep into his rectum, and placed a coin in >>the slot. As a result, he died virtually instantly, leaving passers-by >>still in shock. >>One woman thought she was watching a twilight fireworks display, and >>started clapping. >>"We still haven't located all of him", say the police authorities. >>"When that quantity of air interacted with the gas in his system, he >>nearly exploded. It was like an atom bomb went off or something." >> >>"Pumping is the devil's pastime, and we must all say no to Satan," >>Ratchasima concluded. "Inflate your tires by all means, but then hide >>your bicycle pump where it cannot tempt you." >> >>Let's hear it for Charnchai Puanmuangpak, the NEW 1998 undisputed >>Darwin Award recipient! >> >> >>Thomas McCarthy >>mccartho at ie.ibm.com >>thomasmccarthy at hotmail.com >>phone: +353-1-815-8448 >> >>= >> > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuart.spaceman at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 09:25:03 1998 From: stuart.spaceman at xxx.com (Spaceman Stuart) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 02:25:03 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Century Of Elvis Message-ID: Does anyone know the full lyrics to A Century Of Elvis. I love the song but can't work out all the words. Other good bands: Spiritualized (check out Broken Heart on the new live album). I bought the Field Mice album on saturday basically cause so many people had mentioned it and I love it especially Sensitive. Puressence are good as are Arab Strap, Joy Division, The Smiths, Sppacemen 3, I could go on and on here. I don't have a list crush which is probably due to a local barmaid. Still floating in space Stuart Spaceman Get your FREE E-mail at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From O.M.Hall at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 10:39:50 1998 From: O.M.Hall at xxx.uk (Oliver Hall) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:39:50 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: peace would I know Message-ID: ~sigh~ :( I cannot compose my thoughts well enough to be interesting on the list due to the flowing melodies of B&S trapped with happiness within my bruised head. you are all lovely and i hope yr well luv ---------------------- Oliver Hall University of Exeter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jwemyss at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 10:46:57 1998 From: jwemyss at xxx.uk (James Wemyss) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:46:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mouth by Mouth. Message-ID: <19981110104529.AAA8584@jwemyss.musicchoice.co.uk> Lorraine wrote... "it seems that b&s fans come from all types of musical realms so while i recommend music to everyone, i can't assure you that you'll like any of it. :( other bands i've been listening to lately: mojave3 rialto sweet trip other favourite bands of mine: slowdive my bloody valentine broadcast pale saints any other shoegazer belle & sebastian fans out there?" MBV are one of my favourite bands too, being an old git (30 !) most of the bands I love are no longer together so it's nice to see young bucks like B&S coming through the youth ranks. I've seen Mojave 3 a couple of times (the gig with Locust this year was brilliant) and I LOVE 'In Ribbons'. Greatest band ever is still a toss up between Throwing Muses, The Smiths and My Bloody Valentine. Has anyone else got the cd which comes with the video of Nil by Mouth ?, it's called Pandora by France and it's brilliant. Are there many Mogwai fans out there ? (sorry if this has been covered before !). http://www.musicchoice.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From T.Lilja at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 11:18:06 1998 From: T.Lilja at xxx.uk (T.Lilja at xxx.uk) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:18:06 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bands etc Message-ID: <19981110111648.26350.qmail@amalthea.salford.ac.uk> Hi! Hope you are all well. I just wanted to tell you all about the bands i love. Becks new album is good, i bought it last week and i quite like it. Stereolab is really great, they seem to have the same uncompromising style as B&S with different sounds. And I have to confess that i bought and like the Oasis masterplan album. At least it is better than be here now that i just can't belive i bought in the first place. And of course Electronic is really great too. By the way. Is Chris's jacket (in Seymore Stein ) a leather like the one Johnny Marr has one that famous picture where he hugs Morrissey? /Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbrent at xxx.ca Tue Nov 10 14:01:06 1998 From: jbrent at xxx.ca (Jason Brent) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:01:06 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Worrying Aloud Message-ID: <36484720.16EEB40A@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> G'day everyone. Today I was visiting one of my friends in a local record shop, and we were bantering around all the new music we were listening to, with him throwing on all his current faves. Now I realize that I bought the wrong Mogwai album! I thought some of you were delusional! Anyways, I noticed that he was playing all his choices on vinyl. When I asked him why, he said everyone knows that cd's are going to turn to dust in 25 years! Instant anxiety attack insued!!! He said most of the TRUE music fans he sells to have all switched back to vinyl. Is anyone else aware of this? Do you people buy cd's, or albums? Needless to say, I grabbed the only vinyl copy of TBWTAS, and headed home to hug my decaying heap of aluminum! Later JASON (who hates his new "flying V" keyboard) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 12:06:28 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:06:28 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Where The Dukes He Gone? Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B004261D3@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Oh my god, I'm devastated. The Duke's not here anymore. I voted for him as my list crush too, him being my hero and all. Can I vote again please? I want to vote for whoever has seven votes already. They're obviously a bit of a knock-out, stunning looks and perfection as a hipster personality. I think we should all have a list hero. Can we vote for that too. Send your votes directly to your hero and you may well make their day. Maybe not though. I send one to MY hero several times a day and he just tells me to "piss off". Anyway, Mr Robert McTaggart pointed out to me that: >Peter Miller and I both signed ourselves Petey-Wetey >and Taggy-Waggy after the great Sarah row of '97. So I do apologise for being criminally late with my Johnny-Wonny moniker. Anyway, I like being late so has everybody stopped talking about Breakfast At Tiffany's yet? Good, then I'll have my say. Actually, I just wanted to say that Charade is better. Did Truman Capote write that too? Did they change the end? Bastards. They changed the end of Oscar and Lucinda. It was absolutely awful what they changed it to as well. Up until that point I had rather enjoyed the film and then I left the cinema quite angry. The book is wonderful though and Peter Carey's latest effort (I think it's his latest) Jack Maggs is wonderful too. He pays homage to Dickens and has all these cute and clever nods to Dickens characters and Dicken's life itself. Not being particularly well read when it comes to the Dickens fellow, I missed all this and I still really enjoyed the book. Oh, and the scene in Charade where Audrey Hepburn turns to Cary Grant and says "You know what's wrong with you...? Nothing" is my most favourite cinematic moment ever. And as for all this Baader-Meinhoff talk. Jolly good show. We should all write and tell Steven Wells about this. It'll crush his preconceptions of B&S fans and he'll probably implode. Do we still hate Steven Wells? Now my computer's just told me it's 1972. I knew there was something wrong. I was wondering why I was wearing flares too. Fuck, does this mean the internet's not been invented yet? Cheerio chums, Love...John PS It's the most incredibly beautiful Autumnal day in Manchester. The sun is up, the sky is blue, there's not a cloud to spoil the view. Marvellous. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From garlansw at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 12:22:35 1998 From: garlansw at xxx.uk (Stephen Garland) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:22:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Re: Smut, Xfm, dogs Message-ID: Hello there, 1. Dog on wheels Did anyone see last Friday's London Evening Standard Magazine? There was a picture of an alsation with no back legs, but wheels to replace them. It looked a pretty happy dog, too, buy hey, who wouldn't be if they could freewheel down hills? The most curious thing was that it had a Tax Disc attached. The article said that dogs don't need Road Tax, but Snow ploughs do. So everyone out there with a snow plough be warned. 2. Snow patrol I think I accidentally heard a song by these on Sean Hughes' radio show on Saturday afternoon. Does anyone know of Xfm is any good these days? I stopped listening when it became part of Capital but didn't even try it out, so I can't judge. Hughes seemed to be playing some decent alternative stuff, and Lamacq on R1 does a good job, too. Not the same as 24hrs-a-day alternative, but there's some there. 3. Smut The bit you were waiting for, eh? Rumour has it that a, erm, friend of mine allegedly was doing 'it' to TBWTAS, and reached his peak of excitement during the album's trough - ie Chickfactor (the CD must've been on Random play, because he could never last that long, surely?). This follows on from a similar incident with the Pulp Fiction soundtrack playing, and Captain Kangaroo being the trigger. Romantic or what? Catchya later, llama fans, Stevie -G- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 10:22:45 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:22:45 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re I want a man with lips like mick jagger References: <6b61ccf3.36474730@aol.com> Message-ID: <364813F5.50FDC789@jeepster.co.uk> hi all, Niceaction at aol.com wrote: > Would this be the same Mark that Stuart D dedicated Paper Boat to in the > second NY show, to get him out of Lewisham ?? no, that's Mark "Jonesy" Jones, i.e. Jeepster Director who signed Belle & Sebastian. check him out on the jeepster staff pages http://www.jeepster.co.uk/staff.htm > Ewwww Lewisham. !! why would anyone want to stay there.?? he hates it too. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 12:08:38 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:08:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Wot no smut?!? nope sorry, only Salako news ... Message-ID: <36482CC6.3BDDECB@jeepster.co.uk> oops! sorry stuart ... Stuart Gardiner wrote: > On a completely unrelated note, is anyone going to the Salako gig in > London on Thursday? And if so, anyone fancy meeting up before hand? > (Actually a more important question is does anyone know if it'll finish in > time for me to get the last train home at midnight?) Salako go onstage at about 9.45 - 10.00 pm-ish and the curfew is a strict 11pm, so hopefully that should be enough time ... it should be a great night, i promise! several listees should be able to testify for that too ... (steady mike, pam, trousers et al ...) oh, it's The Borderline just in case you'd forgotten ... doors at 8.00pm, Electric Sound of Joy support with DJ Tony and his Magical Disco too. You can get a free Salako sticker too! and we're so confident that you'll love Salako, that if you're a bit hesitant with forking out your £6 (six pounds for all of you who that turns out like a A=30 or something) to see them, there's a special deal on offer (no steak knives though, sorry!) If you mail me back before 11am on Thursday (12/11) and say you want to go, then we'll put you on the Jeepster £3 (three pounds) guest list, which means it'll only cost you half! But we do need your names in advance, so please mail me back asap ... go on, you KNOW you want to :) shameless plugging yet again ... cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Nov 10 13:02:24 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:02:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: I am the Black Gold of the Sun Message-ID: <01be0caa$5c48c880$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Due to the imminent danger of being set on fire, I have to clarify a point I made last week which appears to have caused untold suffering and claimed numerous lives. Warrender John did not send me a child's birthday party invitation. Why on earth would someone from Aberdeen do that? What he actually sent was a kind of notelet, with a picture of a young lady on it, and lines for writing on so that it doesn't go all wibbly wobbly. It's very nice, and I like it, but it should in no way be taken to infer that Warrender John is some kind of international sick pervert. Far from it, he is a fine upstanding Aberdonian, and probably talks Banffish. His tapes are mighty fine. As indeed are Fluffy's. I have now listened to side one, and lived to tell the tale. There's a couple of funny bits, including someone's mum telling her noisy kids off, which I like very much. I must also mention the very fine drawngs that accompany the extensive sleeve notes. It always helps to know what a group looks like, Bod on acid in this case. Special thanks to the human whoopee cushion, Adrian Evans, for a suitably saucy Monday Poem. Mullet Man, I only got two votes last time, and I've got even uglier since then, as a quick glance at the photo page will reveal. By the way Paul, your website looks lovely when it isn't there. You sound like Ronnie Corbett. Also, I have been pondering your theory (or Tim's theory) that the worse a soul LP cover is, the better the music. That certainly applies (at least the first bit) to the Gamble and Huff output in the seventies, some of the covers look truly atrocious, quite smelly in fact, like something you found in the mate's loft, next to their dad's porno mags, towards the end of the school holidays. I'm just beginning to get the hang of the music, it's very BIG, and not that easy for a PUNK like me. Rotary Connection, on the other hand, are SHIT HOT, so much so that I have named this message after their finest hour. Speaking of Tim, the envelope Flufy sent me originated from Ed Mason, yet I could find no trace of Tim's famous underpants. Magnetic Fields Megan henceforth shal be known as simply Magnetic Megan to avoid any confusion. Unless anyone objects, of course. Has anyone heard any top anecdotes from the returning troops that took over New York last week? Well, we've had one or two, I know, but too much of a good thing can be wonderful. I now owe two people tapes, but have no idea what they might like. Speak now or be subjected to 90 minutes of high octane Krautrock. Cheers, Peter James Miller PS: Lesley, what's your J? PPS: Carrick, that wall sounds fucking great! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 13:51:04 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:51:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S article Message-ID: Tara said . Shouldn't that be voila? A viola is something which Isobel might play. Anyway, in the glory days of Britpop, I used to write for a Scottish pop mag called Bigwig and looking through an old issue last night, I spotted a rare interview with those reticent Belle and Sebastian types. It dates from November 1996, is by a chap called Roy Moller and is only about 300 words long. But if anyone wants me to reproduce it here, just say the word. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 14:10:15 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:10:15 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sad muppets Message-ID: <199811101406.OAA11973@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Hello boys and girls A TURNIP FOR THE BOOKS Phew, what a busy weekend I've had, flying to Spain just so I could hang around in Mr Miller's local supermarket (Peter! I was behind the tins of Alphabetti Spaghetti!). I can exclusively reveal to the list that Peter spends a great deal of time in the vegetable section, choosing his potatoes, cucumbers, marrows etc purely on the basis of how they amusingly resemble saucy bits of the anatomy, under the mistaken impression that Esther Rantzen's "That's Life" is still gracing the airwaves. There was one particular moment when he picked up a turnip and seemed close to tears. I can't be sure, but it seemed like he was saying "Oh Tim, Tim, will you ever return, my darling?". TAKE A SINISTER SLEIGH RIDE WITH ME Some people have asked when the next social is at The Poetry Cafe in London. I did mention this before, but it was buried deep in the bowels of an email of mine that made Marcel Proust seem like a snappy, to-the-point kinda guy. To reiterate: December 18 we will be having a Sinister Xmas Party from 7pm onwards at the PoCaff on Betterton St, Covent Garden, London. I'm still pondering whether to provide jelly and ice-cream, in which case their may be a small entry fee. I will put details on the jeepster notice board when I can be arsed. MUPPETRY REV I can only join everyone in applauding the new MercRev Lp. However, I have a fairly fundamental problem which means I find it very difficult to listen to now. Someone once wrote a review of Neil Young, where they said they had always been a great fan until they heard that song - is it "Helpless"? that's the chorus anyway - and the line "Big bird flying across the sky.." They immediately had a mental image of the large yellow resident of Sesame Street gliding across a beautiful sunset, and found it impossible to take poor old Neil seriously again. It's similar with MercRev... I was trying to think who the singer reminded me of for days, then all of a sudden it struck me: remember how Kermit the Frog would sometimes introduce his little nephew, Robin, to sing a song about being halfway up the stairs? Well, as a result I can no longer listen to the lp. Curses. To add insult to injury I cant listen to The Stooges anymore, either. I put on "Raw Power" the other night, only to find myself haunted by the leering face of Jim Henson's most fearsome creation, Robert "son of a manic street preachers' fan", McTaggart. What can you do? SMOKING IS COOL A number of people expressed interest in a bunch of Paul Auster books I got sent, so I thought I would set another competition. As the previous competition tested your powers of poetic creativity, I thought this time I would set a scientific question, to really see who the renaissance lads and ladies are on Sinister. It has been said that Dear old Christopher Leonard is a bit of a renaissance man, what with his computer skills and his mellifluous voice, but judging by his sloping forehead, I would place him a bit earlier. A cro-magnon man, perhaps*. But anyway, the question: Mr Auster once made a film called "Smoke" with the famous french director Roman Polanski. Now, Sir Walter Raleigh once proved in the olden days that it was possible to weigh smoke. On scales. But can you tell me how??? The correct (or most ingenious wrong) answers will be put in a hat, and five winners will receive books. Answers to me privately please before Friday. Stay pressed Stevie Trousers +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 14:11:41 1998 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:11:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Diamonds Aren't Forever Message-ID: <19981110141141.29724.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> ---Jason Brent wrote: > he said everyone knows that cd's are going to turn to dust in 25 > years! Instant anxiety attack insued!!! I think this belongs in the same category as 'Polo mints make you sterile' and 'Power Showers destroy your immune system' - mythological scaremongery that is difficult to conclusively disprove. CDs have been around for 20 years now (in wide commercial circulation for 15), and there haven't been too many reported cases of them decaying away to nothing. Those that have been found to deteriorate have been traced back to pressing plants with dodgy operational practices. Such as employing too many people with ginger hair. > He said most of the TRUE music > fans he sells to have all switched back to vinyl. Well, to put things into perspective, it's worth bearing in mind that vinyl records begin to deteriorate after their very first play. What's more, the thermal deformation of the groove wall that occurs as a natural by-product of stylus-vinyl friction takes some hours to completely dissipate - so, if you're in the habit of playing your favourite LPs more than once in an evening, you're accelerating their demise. (Actually I may have pulled that last factoid out of my bum - I certainly can't remember where I got it from.) Still, not to worry eh ? Loads of people have a strong preference for black plastic, despite (or perhaps because of) its inherent limitations and distortions. Then there's the whole question of cover art - if CD had come along a decade or so earlier, the world might've been spared Roger Dean. I like vinyl because it's sex-ay. Mike (a FALSE music fan). _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eculb at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 14:32:28 1998 From: eculb at xxx.uk (JaMeS) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:32:28 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Bands In-Reply-To: <36374403.2B5D@club-internet.fr> Message-ID: Dear Listees, Yeah, I for one am really into Rialto at the moment- very uplifting, with dark earthy undertones. They played at my uni a few weeks ago, and fairly rocked. Ive got five of their singles, but am not to sure if i can afford to get the album at the minute as im rather broke. Can anyone comment on the album? Has anyone bought the Acid House soundtrack? Is it worth shelling out for? The line up on it sounds pretty tempting... JaMeS ~we are the underdogs... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 14:33:12 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:33:12 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981110143312.27189.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wizzcake at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 14:58:31 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 06:58:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: thursday plans Message-ID: <19981110145831.8137.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> dawhlings - Warrander John - FML said: "Actually, I just wanted to say that Charade is better. Did Truman Capote write that too?" i don't think so john....i was obsessed with truman when i lived in sydney....i don't remember anything by the name of "charade". his lit highlights include "in cold blood", "other voices, other rooms" and "music for chamelons". but all his stuff makes me quiver and wish for more time to re-read them. am i a truly awful person for going to see CAT POWER at the garage on thursday instead of salako? my excuse is that chan marshall is helping me get over my trent from daria fixation slowly (but surely). "moon pix" is one of the best i've heard this year also. and people, when is the next blue soda? i am starting to forget what you guys look like. deadlines for the crush list must be approaching....i think this tara chick from san francisco sounds crushable but then again my only other (real) crush at the moment is from 'frisco so i am biased. grrrrrrr. damn - they're either from another country or a cartoon. but when i first joined the list i crushed on mark casarotto...oh what a fickle asparagus spear i am. mark casarotto? whereabouts indeed!!! i trust fun and dandy times were had in NYC...crazy town. i want to hear stories of debauched feats, experiencing your first reeses peanut butter cup etc. london listees - i plan on having a hooo-haaaa at chez lady penelope on advent sunday...november 29th. come equipped with palm leaves, booze, nibblies, a little blood. details to follow....... i can't think of anything to say. listening to "the boatman's call" right now. suits the crisp clear day here in london. this morning i woke up and pressed "play" and was rewarded with the sound of shonen knife's "explosion". i have to be sooper-sneaky at work from now on as the fuzz have installed CCTV cameras all over the joint. farewell to the days of spending hours reading middle-american housewives housekeeping tips and culinary tricks. *mosh* dawhlings *mosh* lady penelope ******************************************************* "the fry, it cannot lie, the truth is there upon my thigh". _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 14:55:30 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:55:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: What was that mouse called in An American Tail Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E222DAF53@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Well, as Tara ('ello chuck!) was so concerned about me and my tales of Nu Yorican debaucherie (I'm trying to work out how to transcribe the kind of strangled chortle that implies that this couldn't be further from the truth) in a letter I evidently haven't read yet, I shall have a go at adding my rather feeble tuppenceworth to the kerfuffle surrounding the New York extravaganza. I wish I didn't feel more and more scared of flying each time I get on an aeroplane. There's a little man with pince-nez glasses in the recesses of my head working out the probability of coming a cropper at 35,000 feet, and ticking off each time I stagger off a Boeing 72/3/4/5/67. It's the taking off I hate most. And that couple of seconds on landing when the plane bounces back into the air, filling my mind with images of huge pieces of machinery spiralling out of control at 150 miles per hour. And, most pointlessly, the fact that in my head the plane has a consciousness of its own, and at some point is going to think "hmmm, I'm 250 tons of metal, glass and plastic. I should be exerting a force of 2.5 million newtons on the surface of the planet, yet here I am soaring 7 miles above it. Soon fix that...". Apologies to anyone of nervous disposition about to go on an aeroplane. Moving onto debauchery - well, I'll keep you guessing...I didn't get offered any nookie whatsoever, and only got offered drugs once, in Central Park of all places, despite doing my level best to frequent all the dodgiest East Village dives and speakeasies. I was astonished at the expense of the city - coming from London, you can usually go on holiday to be greeted by charmingly inexpensive things that would make you grumble no end at home, but New York proved the exception. Except for clothes, of which I only bought one item. How pathetic. Still, inspired by the ravishing Milla of this parish, I did purchase a pair of New Balance trainers which made come over all unnecessary. But enough of this tedium. Let's move onto *this* tedium instead. The New York gigs were unconditionally superb in pretty much every aspect, with the possible exception of Isobel's evident discomfort on Sunday night. Poor lamb. Stuart's Arms Of Sex were a high point, though - that boy doesn't fool me with his softly spoken, timid demeanour - there's a sky-high sexual confidence lurking behind those steel-grey eyes (I don't know what colour they really are, but steel-grey suits my fantasy) and cruel yet sensual lips, and by the look of you lot it's got hormone levels up to a record high...On first listening, it seems like Slow Graffiti is going to be another skyscraper of R!O!C!K!, which is reassuring after the relative paucity of inspiration on Tautbuttocks, and the cover of Turn Turn Turn made me feel very happy and strangely proud of my little darlings. I really, really adore this band, and all who sail in her. But the best thing about NYC was the company of the listees I was lucky enough to meet. I'm only sorry that I didn't get to speak to some of you more, particularly Matthew, Brian, Michele, Minka and the legendary Jonny (are you feeling a bit better love?), and of course all of you that I'm kicking myself for not having got in touch with. But I did get to spend quality time with the delightful Kristen S, who was everything I could have wanted from my very first list crush, and dead good looking into the bargain, and the Queen Bee Janine herself, who is no doubt the coolest person I will ever meet, no contest. But the person who made my stay as fulfilling as it was was the fabulous Anastasia (along with her equally ace friends), who gave up so much of her time to look after me, order me "difficult" sandwiches, force me to try on rather sexy designer apparel, and reluctantly join me in consuming much beer (what the hell is Heineken Dark, anyway?). I'm humbled by how thoughtful and gorgeous you all were, and I hope I get the chance to show you the same level of hospitality when (not if, don't even think about it) you come over to England. So there you go. I was lying about there being any debauchery, but I'm sure my young lady would have had something to say otherwise... Love to you all, The Little Blonde one p.s. isn't the duke's address tangent at lineone.net (i.e. without the s) or am I being thick? p.p.s Paul Field, Mr score draws, are you free on the 22nd November? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 15:18:58 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:18:58 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: List crush vote results!!! Message-ID: OK, here's the moment you've all been waiting for (Actually I may as well admit - I was going to post a provisional list last week sometime, but I was winning so it was too embarrassing...). Any mistakes with names spelt wrong etc are probably my fault, but never mind. The list below is correct to the best of my knowledge! And the winner is... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 votes: FLUFFY SARAH 6 votes: Peter Miller 5 votes: Honey Stevie Trousers And some Tall Git whose name escapes me just now... 4 votes: Genevieve Wesley Magnetic Megan Lehar 3 votes: FunkySeb Philippe Corpora Arenacea Chris Leonard Brad Joss Moorkens 2 votes: Keith Watson Reid Dossinger Oon Charlotte Hall Erin Lewis Archel Andy (Seymour?) Henry Thomas St Lucy 1 vote: Jake Reichert; Christa Chaffinch; Mark Casarotto; Adrian Evans; Mick McMick; Pam Berry; Susannah; Nick Dastoor; Jessica Murphy; Liz Daplyn; Joao Henrique Horst; Kevan Cooke; Andrew Nicol; Tara Widmer; Matthew Crooker; Becka; Tag; John Warrender; Xavier; Matthew Phintz; Gary Done; Linda Kerr; Vicky Parkinson; Monaz; Calumn Shearer; Martin Horsfield; Jennifer Phillips-Bacher; Anastasia Signoretta; Elisabeth (from Toronto); Lesley J Miller; Minnie Riperton; Claire Timmins; Humbert Humbert; David Kitchen; Chloe Sevigny; The French Girl on John Warrender's party invitation; and Teddy Pendergrass. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- So there you have it. Quite a change from last time, so everyone else, there's still hope! Failing that, you can always try bribing people to vote for you (I know at least one person who did...). A big hello to the person who tried to vote for themselves from a different email account - better luck next time. And an even bigger hello to the person who voted for someone and then changed their mind and removed the vote a few days later... I think most of the pairs of people who voted for each other are already couples, but there were one or two who weren't. I'm bound to silence on who voted for who, but the incentive is there for you to try and find out for yourselves... If there's anyone else you've got a crush on, let me know - if there's enough other votes I'll post an updated table, if not it'll help me keep up on the gossip ;-) Personally, I honestly wasn't expecting to get any votes at all, especially since I was compiling it myself, so a big kiss to the people concerned :-x (And no, I didn't make any of the votes up!) Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 15:20:28 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:20:28 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: First we 'll take Nottingham... Message-ID: Ca va, sinisteriques? I am sure Belle and Sebastian will conquer the world one day or another in spite of their lyrics about abandoned librarians with no prospects to sucess according to the American standards.At least they are taking quite quickly Nottingham University campus and its roundabouts.Let's see why I was due to attend a play last Friday in the New Theatre, here in campus. It was a kind of adaptation of some Irvin Welsh tale, I think. Finally I did not turn up, but my friends told me they played some B&S songs (they weren't able to tell me which ones...)as soundtrack, and in the program, in the 'thanks to' section, it was said something like 'Thanks to Belle and Sebastian for being the way they are, that's it , for being just so Belle and Sebastian', charming, isn't it? My housemates , who were the ones to see the play, are totally converted to them too,nowadays.It must be said they have received more influence apart from mine,(family, friends, society),even one of them have no clue about pop and most of her cds (she has no vinyls!,oh,GOd,she is a sinner) are jazzy things. Sorry for being so local in this email, but if Robin Stout reads this before tonight : about CatPower gig, is the Bunkers Hill Inn in Hockley? About Charade : it was not any novel or tale before being an screenplay, and sure,it was not written by Truman Capote.Any film with Audrey turns out to be remarkably delightful, but Holly is the best of her best. P.S. I love your Proustesque postings, Stevie Trosers, never change! Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 15:41:09 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:41:09 -0500 Subject: Sinister: adorable! Message-ID: hey I actually did e-mail brad and tell him how cute megan was. so there. megan is adorable. Actually, come to think of it, every single person I have met from this list is adorable... what are the chances of that???!! I mean, Megan, Johnny, Anastasia, Lorraine, Mark, oh, I know there are more that I'm leaving out, but... you are all the CUTEST!!!! there, now, that ought to help in the crush vote, right? Oh, and I look like a bee. I have giant wings. so vote for me. Queen Bee Janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheAdwiz at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 15:32:39 1998 From: TheAdwiz at xxx.com (TheAdwiz at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:32:39 EST Subject: Sinister: i'm proud of this list Message-ID: <982d28b1.36485c97@aol.com> kudos to you all that responded about your recent favorite bands. i was very interested to hear what we're all listening to. keep it up as i have been introduced to many bands bec of this list. I just picked up the field mice, great great stuff. recommended to all!! and i picked up two felt albums. "primitive painter" is a beautiful unreal song in the style of "lazy line painter jane" (painter in both songs-coincidence?). the steinbecks and cat's miaow are really great also. and the green pajamas-really great stuff!! can anyone tell me about salako and snow patrol both on jeepster? that's it for now. oh, and for old school rec, listen to the zombies and leonard cohen!!! -arye (means lion) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jlphilli at xxx.edu Tue Nov 10 15:39:44 1998 From: jlphilli at xxx.edu (jennifer phillips-bacher) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:39:44 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Curses, Crushes! Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981110093944.0091b840@students.wisc.edu> Hello all of you Intensely Crushy Lovelies. 1. A huge hug to the kind soul who named me his/her list crush. Despite only receiving one vote, my self-confidence is soaring to new heights. I fear I may become cocky. 2. The Lucksmiths. I've heard great things about them, but I can't find a darn thing. Well, I did find a 7" available through Darla, but as I have no vinyl-playing equipment, I'm at a loss. If anyone could help me out here (locate a cd for me, tape a cd for me) I would do a variety of nice things for you. Email me privately. 3. List Dream. The other night I dreamt that I was sitting on a piano bench, resting my head on the knees of Mr. Stevie Trousers whose bum was parked on the top of the piano. Suddenly, in stormed David and Katrina. David was fuming and snapped: "Trousers, get off your lazy corduroy-wearing ass and do some housework!" Katrina looked like Edith Piaf. un bacione, jenn xoxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Tue Nov 10 15:43:36 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:43:36 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Mod ep in us? Message-ID: <199811101543.KAA22963@pobox.upenn.edu> Katrina-- will matador be releasing the Mod ep in the us in dec? --lapis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 15:46:31 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 07:46:31 PST Subject: Sinister: List crush vote results!!! Message-ID: <19981110154631.10588.qmail@hotmail.com> :( no votes for me??? i think all lurkers should draw numbers and have crushes on each other. -lorraine ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jwemyss at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 15:48:40 1998 From: jwemyss at xxx.uk (James Wemyss) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:48:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Acid House Message-ID: <19981110154712.AAA11502@jwemyss.musicchoice.co.uk> The soundtrack to this is indeed v.good but the film is anything but (unless you're a Hibs casual !). Don't waste your sponds on it, it really is a load of shite. http://www.musicchoice.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Tue Nov 10 17:12:59 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:12:59 Subject: Sinister: three crushes for me ! Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981110171259.1d2f0f84@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Big Stu warns : >Any mistakes with names spelt >wrong etc are probably my fault, but never mind. and then : >3 votes: >Philippe The spelling is correct :) and this result is unbelievable! "France, 3 points, France, 3 points (with the french accent) Frankreich, drei punkte (helmut speaking)" Well, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to thank my donkey Peter, my bluefish Megan and my goldfish Honey who named me in their crush list... What ? You didn't vote for me ! So who did ?? C'est un mystere bien mysterieux... Anyway, I will try to get of photo of myself soon, because at least 3 lovely listees certainly want to know the truth now :) Congratulations Sarah! Philippe, the boy with one E, 2 P's and 3 points. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 16:15:24 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:15:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The 1970's Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C3D@COR-EXG1> Steven Garland mentioned dogs on wheels and their ability to pull wheelies at will. Firstly, do puppies on wheels have stabilizers ? Secondly, It's always bugged me, but what if a dog on wheels owner came home from work, and the dog forgot his limblessness and tried to jump up and greet his master with an exchange of saliva as dogs inevitably do ? He would surely land on his back and be stuck with wheels pointing to the heavens spinning slowly to a halt like when a car overturns in the movies. Worse still, what if his master took him for a spin, sorry a walk down by the river and inadvertently forgot his pets challenged mobility and threw him a stick in the water to collect ? Disasterous...One drowned K-9 and his owner gets 6 months in Channings Wood for animal cruelty. It's a terrible world out there kids. Don your cardies and stay in your bedsits. Peter Sister Disco Inferno wrote : That certainly applies (at least the first bit) to the Gamble and Huff output in the seventies, some of the covers look truly atrocious, quite smelly in fact, like something you found in the mate's loft, next to their dad's porno mags, towards the end of the school holidays. That's not the only thing in the 70's that smelt. Remember the Panini f**tb*ll albums ? I swear blind the smelliest sensation in the world was opening a pack of stickers and finding you had a Bolton Wanderers player in there. P!O!O! Or worse still Ian Greaves the then manager....WIFFY. Or Wolves....Oooooooohhhh Phewie !...Kenny Hibbit...Oh !!! Or Leeds United....their kit STANK !! Trousers wrote : remember how Kermit the Frog would sometimes introduce his little nephew, Robin, to sing a song about being halfway up the stairs? No I remember him introducing his nephew Robin to sing "Halfway Down the Stairs". I'm not being picky, there's a world of difference. Yours Suitably Adrian.x.x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Tue Nov 10 16:11:00 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 17:11:00 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Feel the Force of my Fist, Frozen Fiend! Message-ID: <01be0cc4$b62d54a0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Did someone call me Killer Diller Miller, or did I dream it? Anyway, wierd psychedelic flashbacks apart, I feel the need to point out that Tag and I weren't the only ones to indulge in indie-windie pop name fun last year. I seem to recall Keithy Weithy sending me a lengthy diatribe railing and railing against indie-come-latelies that (unlike Keithy Weithy) don't own any limited edition Sha La La flexis signed in strawberry juice by Nealy Wealy himself. So respect is due to Keithy Weithy, mean-spirited indie completist. Nice to see that Jeepster have finally relaxed their views on copyright material! Speaking of which, I don't think Richard Branson gets any dough from Virgin shops these day, just trains and V2, not even Phil Collins. Mind you, I'm no expert. For those of you mourning the loss of the Duke, fear not, he tends to come and go. I've been meaning to clear up the great "Turn! Turn! Turn!" mystery, but I keep forgetting it in favour of even more useless shite. What I think happened is that when the church bazaar shindig was announced, someone expressed a desire to hear Belle Biv Devoe doing "I am a Pilgrim" in a Byrds stylee. This obviously anchored itself in the be-barnacled bottom of someone's brain, who then started having visions of B&S doing " a more religious Byrds song". This false memory was then reactivated by the news that our heroes had done "T! T! T!" in New York for a dare. It's raining like the very devil here. I'm listening to "Swamp Blues" by some blues legends. It's guff. Petey Wetey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Tue Nov 10 16:43:07 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:43:07 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: OT: Lucksmiths Message-ID: <199811101643.LAA27238@pobox.upenn.edu> > > 2. The Lucksmiths. I've heard great things about them, but I can't find a > darn thing. Well, I did find a 7" available through Darla, but as I have > no vinyl-playing equipment, I'm at a loss. If anyone could help me out > here (locate a cd for me, tape a cd for me) I would do a variety of nice > things for you. Email me privately. > > un bacione, > jenn xoxo their record label has a site-- http://www.candlerecords.com.au/ that you should be able to order cd's from... --lapis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cuteguy58 at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 16:44:48 1998 From: cuteguy58 at xxx.com (Ecstasy Records) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 08:44:48 PST Subject: Sinister: black sessions! anybody?? Message-ID: <19981110164449.19635.qmail@hotmail.com> Hi! anybody would be kind making me a copy of the Black sessions on tape..I would appreciate it...Thanks :) ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 16:11:50 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:11:50 EST Subject: Sinister: simple things Message-ID: good morning, good afternoon, good evening dear bunnies, there are several things i need to address, but as i am working (aren't i always?) this will be brief: 1) list crushes: wowee zowee, someone has a crush on me! woo hoo, one vote! i must say i am flattered. i have no idea who you are, but please, if you wish to make yourself known do so. hee hee. unless it was mark that voted for me, in that case i *knew* all about your crush, wink wink. :) i myself didn't vote, cos i was afraid big stu was forwarding all the mail to the votees, but now i apologise for my paranoia and admit that stu is a top lad. cheers. if i did participate, of course my votes go for lorraine and queen bee janine (i tell you her wings are *huge* didn't you see them at the supper club?), who are indeed the most adorable listees. or, actually, my list crush is...well, i'm too shy to say, but i will tell you he fell into the five-vote category... 2) mark casarotto: i didn't realise he was so popular! yes, the fine boy travelled to new york, we corrupted him badly, and he returned as a man. i'm just teasing, of course! mark was lovely and as far as i know he had a lovely time. read his post for details... 3) placebo/gomez: i didn't get to go. :( 4) cmj festival: i only caught two gigs...the bouncy and bubbly komeda on friday (though i was feeling quite ill and couldn't 'get into it') and mojave three on saturday. mojave was *much* more impressive than the first time i saw them gig with lush in '96. i stayed awake this time. very pretty stuff...verging (dare i say it?) on the charlatans side at times, blame it on the hammond. we were saying though, mojave three is weird, cos we feel like we're looking at *slowdive*, but they think they're some band called mojave three...oh, and we caught six by seven. ace! otherwise, cmj was a bit of a disappointment for me, cos i was too lazy and exhausted after my belle and sebastian week and didn't make much of an effort to see anything else. of course i found out about all the good shows after they happened. :( 5) shoegazing/what i'm listening to/new music: i'd never describe myself as a shoegazer, that's always been lorraine's department and she's much better at it than me. :) but early ride/early lush/mbv/pale saints/slowdive/etc. i still listen to. why is it that british indie kids like to take the piss out of old shoegazers? i was tormented by the cool indie set in brighton (i used to live there) for requesting chapterhouse while we'd be sitting around doing nothing (which was all of the time). hmm. right now, as in right at this very moment as i type this, i'm listening to the walker brothers. the cds sititng in front of me for today's consumption: gene, longpigs, lush 'gala', the love compilation, stereolab 'dots and loops'. i've not bought anything recently (except for the gomez record, yeah!) but i'm thinking of checking out add n to x... and now for some belle and sebastian content! 6) 'seeing other people' - the sloooooooooow sessions version: someone asked about vocal parts on this track last week. verse one is definitely stevie. the three singers come together in one of the most lovely, if not a little shaky, harmonies at the end...*sigh* 7) my parents and belle and sebastian: always ones for new music, my parents are smitten with b&s. my dad actually attempted to take my copy of 'tigermilk' to work with him the other day, but i gracefully intercepted the steal. no chance of that being lent out just yet, as it's only two weeks old in my possession (cheers to francisco, who has sadly been bounced from the list). also: my mom tells me stuart m. sings just like donovan. agree or disagree? 8) b&s press: a one-page piece in this month's paper magazine (new york rag...the issue with christina ricci on the cover). mostly an interview with mick. it didn't teach me anything new. i don't know how i feel about all of this press! 9) stuart's silver ttrousers: phwoar. i lied about the brief thing...i promise to never write this much again. carry on... cheers, stasia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chemikal6 at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 17:06:38 1998 From: chemikal6 at xxx.com (charlie sewell) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:06:38 PST Subject: Sinister: the interview! Message-ID: <19981110170638.2572.qmail@hotmail.com> hallo martin,_________________________________________________________ 300 words, 22 words, I'm sure that no one here minds! Just put it up so that everyone can gaze lovingly upon their words of wisdom...i think what the world definitely needs right now is more articles about geniune geniuses like B&S, instead of lumbering buffoons like Liam Gallagher..._____________________________ cheers, Charlie ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Tue Nov 10 17:16:32 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (keith m) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:16:32 -0500 Subject: Sinister: shoegazing backlash Message-ID: <364874F0.DDD3990A@bignet.net> anastasia wrote >why is it that british indie kids like >to take the piss >out of old shoegazers? i once had this discussion with someone and they claimed to be anti-shoegazing because it was a purely middle class phenomenon and that oasis as heroes of the working class rescued fair england from the pretenders with floppy fringes. keith m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 17:29:23 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:29:23 EST Subject: Sinister: shoegazing backlash Message-ID: keith m. wrote: > i once had this discussion with someone and they > claimed to be anti-shoegazing because it was a > purely middle class phenomenon and that oasis as > heroes of the working class rescued fair england > from the pretenders with floppy fringes. that might have something to do with it...the cool indie brighton set consisted solely of poor working-class lads happily on the dole, dreaming dreams of socialism. throwing out retorts like, 'ride are only a band because mummy and daddy bought them guitars for their fourteenth birthdays.' ouch. but no, i think a lot of the indie kids just thought shoegazing was an 'over' scene and liking chapterhouse was sad...maybe it is, i'm not sure. stasia-wasia ------------- Original Text >From "keith m" , on 11/10/98 12:13 PM: anastasia wrote >why is it that british indie kids like >to take the piss >out of old shoegazers? i once had this discussion with someone and they claimed to be anti-shoegazing because it was a purely middle class phenomenon and that oasis as heroes of the working class rescued fair england from the pretenders with floppy fringes. keith m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Tue Nov 10 17:48:54 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:48:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: shoegazing backlash References: Message-ID: <36487C86.53BA6A59@itl.ca> Anastasia Signoretta wrote: > keith m. wrote: > > > i once had this discussion with someone and they > > claimed to be anti-shoegazing because it was a > > purely middle class phenomenon and that oasis as > > heroes of the working class rescued fair england > > from the pretenders with floppy fringes. > > that might have something to do with it...the cool indie brighton set > consisted solely of poor working-class lads happily on the dole, dreaming > dreams of socialism. throwing out retorts like, 'ride are only a band > because mummy and daddy bought them guitars for their fourteenth > birthdays.' ouch. but no, i think a lot of the indie kids just thought > shoegazing was an 'over' scene and liking chapterhouse was sad...maybe it > is, i'm not sure. That may be, but I'll bet that a lot of the new guitar-based bands coming out of the UK and a lesser degree North America over then next few years will be citing bands like Ride as influences in their sound. Fer example, Embrace gushed about Ride's "Nowhere" in an article in Select a few months back. It takes a few years for the kids who spent their formative musical years listening to shoegazer stuff to actually form bands - but when they do, their influences will be pretty evident. Hipster-ism aside, I think the long-term influence of a band on those that follow dictates their historical importance... man, could that sound any more pretentious? Either way - you get what I mean. The legacy of the Pixies didn't become really evident for a few years until bands like Radiohead and Sugar began name-checking them a lot... speaking of Sugar, the same could go for Husker Du. Struggle throughout your career, break up, and five years later you're the coolest guys around. Ride will have their day - wait and see. -- Frank Yang Imperial Tobacco Ltd. I poured Spot remover on my dog. Now he's gone. In my CD player: Flux - Lucky Seven -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From TWidmer at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 18:11:43 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:11:43 -0800 Subject: Sinister: NBSC - St Etienne Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032FB30E@amerwksnt01.xil.com> <> You mean december 10, and yes, everybody rush out and get your tickets!! www.Ticketweb.com has been selling them for a week now, and cheaper than the OTHER, nasty ole fishy-ticket network that'll bleed you dry with so-called "service charges". (what *are* these 'service-charges' for? does anyone here work for TicketMonster or similarly evil ticket agent and can explain it?) i have no idea if the Et are any good in concert, but after waiting 6 years for them to grace our shores it's so exciting! break out the platform shows, lame gold hotpants and feather boas, I say! Girls, too!! someone asked about heroes, I have to say Ms Cracknell is quite high on the list for me. She has the voice of an angel and the kind of popstar-drag-queen icon thing working for her. Who cares about the wonky eye, she's just precious. They did this VH-1 (christ, i watch too much of that...) "divas" special and instead of having any real glam chicks it was all ho-hum city with Celine Dion and Pariah Scarey. Sarah is way cooler... oooh, quick look at the web shows The Crush Winners.... hehe how many of you will be disappointed to learn it's just me who fancies you....;-) ta, tara "the body" ventura +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 18:19:28 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 10:19:28 PST Subject: Sinister: cat power? Message-ID: <19981110181929.14464.qmail@hotmail.com> i don't get it. i bought the new cat power a month or so ago and it still hasn't made it to my c.d. player more than twice. am i listening to it with the wrong set of ears? uuuhhhhhh! i heard jim white's in there somewhere and he's a genius but i guess he was sober the day he recorded. i'm not pissing anyone off am i? i would like to see the beauty in it but it just aint happening. oh! and how do you get to the picture page now?(i was asleep that day) on a positive side of things, i think i have offically started back smoking and i feel so much better. it was the belle and sebastian show that did it. even brad smoked that night. a whole year for nothing. did anyone catch mr. show last night? it was one of the best episodes i've seen(besides the one with the gay rock and roll band) robbie what's the difference between a dead baby and a bathtub?(this is a sick "i-can't-believed-i-laughed-at-that-joke that i read in a joke book) you can't screw the bathtub! i know it was sick, send hate mail personaly ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gareth at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 18:14:30 1998 From: Gareth at xxx.uk (Gareth Probert) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:14:30 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A few things.. Message-ID: <36488286.154B4690@probert-edi.compulink.co.uk> Hello all of you people (as someone once said, staring at your screens) Hmmmm.. Shelley Feltham asked the question: "..who people's heroes are, who would you most like to be if you weren't yourself?" As an answer I would say (and this will come as no great surprise to those who know me, or have seen my hair..) Richard Ashcroft. Also, Anastasia Signoretta wondered: "..stuart m. sings just like donovan. agree or disagree?" I would definitely agree - when I first heard Dononvan it was a live tape and I thought that it was B&S material as yet unheard be me... To Stuart G., I just received your set of results - congrats to all concearned! I obviously received no preferences, but then, like I said, non of you have seen my hair...he he... but what I was going to say to Stu was - it seems someone else does share my err.. as I had wondered in the mail I sent to you... Finally, and I know it is a bit late, but I would like to register my unnoquivical preference of egg to lamb... Goodbye to you all Gareth "It's sad that some people can't handle a little variety" - Calvin from Calvin & Hobbes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 18:25:47 1998 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 13:25:47 EST Subject: Sinister: cat power? Message-ID: <16c53755.3648852b@aol.com> i thought that record was pretty bad also....one of those records you don't like not to.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 18:20:53 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:20:53 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Mine's a large one, Landlord Message-ID: Dears, Trous wrote: >Someone once wrote a review of Neil Young, where they said they had >always been a great fan until they heard that song - is it >Helpless"? that's the chorus anyway - and the line "Big bird flying >across the sky..". They immediately had a mental image of the large >yellow resident of Sesame Street gliding across a beautiful sunset, >and found it impossible to take poor old Neil seriously again. It was Keith, wasn't it? Keith has a thing about Big Bird. As opposed to big birds, I wouldn't like to comment on that. Earlier this year, Keef, Anne, Wumpkinny and myself were "power lunching" in a cafe in Glasgow and Keith was heard to remark "doesn't this spoon look uncannily like Big Bird's head?" No-one expected him to say that, any more than we expected him to say "and as any engineer knows, ratchets are the devil's work". He's a strange boy and I feel he needs our help in his hour of need. >To add insult to injury I cant listen to The Stooges anymore, >either. I put on "Raw Power" the other night, only to find myself >haunted by the leering face of Jim Henson's most fearsome creation, >Robert "son of a manic street preachers' fan", McTaggart. What can >you do? You can hush your filthy mouth for a start, Mr So-called Trousers. I wasn't the one shagging to the Stooges, I was the one striking a blow for morality and saying it was sick. And it is. Thank God it wasn't "I wanna be your dog" Trousers chose to listen to, that's all I can say. Michael said: >Those that have been found to deteriorate have been traced back to >pressing plants with dodgy operational practices. Such as employing >too many people with ginger hair. And what is that supposed to mean, Sonny Jim? You can never have too many people with ginger hair. For this wanton bigotry, I blame Chris Evans and I blame Mick Hucknall but most of all, I blame Coronation Street's Liz MacDonald. She's a disgrace to the Sparkly Orange tribe the world over. God, I hate her. I hate her "But Jim!"s and "Shurt urp burth of you"s, but most of all I hate her workout video. Bianca, now she's a soap ginner that rocks. Why doesn't she do a workout video? I'd buy one. Gingerly yours, Taggart xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 18:43:10 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:43:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Slow graffiti Message-ID: Dear all, Whiled away in HMV and Selectadisc and was surprised to see the soundtrack to 'The Acid House' is out already (movie out Jan 1st in UK). Of course, featured on there (and heard via a listening post) is Belle & Sebastian's 'Slow Graffiti', sandwiched between 'Hot Love' by T-Rex and, erm, an Arab Strap song - 'Hot Pish' or some such. It's an intriguing little number with the same echoey, Spectoresque production job done on 'Lazy Line Painter...' Verse 1 concerns a portrait, while Verse 2 alludes to 'putting the kid to bed'. Is there something we should know here? It eventually builds to a tentative indie/dance finale. Oh yes. Unfortunately, 1 track does not a sensible purchase make (I'll wait 'till the single), so instead I bought the 'enhanced' Portishead live album (hmmm 15 minute video fimed from the dashboard of an old Maxi, that's not really an enhancement of Beth and co. is it?), The Sundays' 1st album (well, it was only £4.99), the Inner Sleeve single, the Stony Sleep single and Carole King's 'Tapestry' (I gave my last copy away to a girl I met on her birthday, a ridiculously altruistic gesture that didn't result in any you know what). Spent the rest of the afternoon framing pictures of the soon-to-be- demolished Springfield Park in Wigan. (nb made exiting discovery - a little pile of Scotch sticky picture mounts is the best way to hang the notoriously difficult clipframe) Am tempted to see Salako on Thursday (Electric Sound of Joy's 'Total Turns' was a great single but aren't they currently singerless?) and will definitely crawl out of the woodwork for next Wednesday's Whistler/Velocette gig at the same venue. As for tonight, it's a toss up between playing football and boozing. Any doctor would tell you that football will release some endorphins and boost my serotonin levels whereas booze is a depressant, but I fear I shall still opt for the latter. As for that B&S article from 'Bigwig' magazine, by request of the marvellously monikered Frank Yang, I shall endeavour to post it up here tomorrow. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 19:09:48 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:09:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Go on dahn to Ruff Trade, to buy Siouxie and the Banshees, they heard John Peels PLAAAY it, just the other nooight...hello, we're cockneys. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001be0cdd$af9f21e0$584d989e@elsato97> Heeey!! Woop de doo! OHMYGOD!! I'd like to thank my....no, I hate everyone so I won't thank anyone, I got EIGHT!!! votes!!!! THANK YOU TO MY FANS!!! *gosh*, this means so much to me, when can I expect my limo to pick me up from Warton mister gardiner? A black one would be posh, but a white or pink one would be just daft!!! But very funny so one of those please. And flowers!!! And at the awards ceremony do we have polaroid cameras on the tables so we can take photos of other celebrities pissed??? YEAH! Rock'n'roll!!! Blimey o reily.... to quote that HORRIBLE playstation racing car game advert : LETS SEE THAT AGAIN!!!! And the winner is... > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > 8 votes: > FLUFFY SARAH !!!!! WOOOOOOO! *MWAH* to you all, I love you, *sniff* even though you must all be lacking in like....sense.... *thinks* I KNEW going to eight list peoples houses and shoving a gun up their nose would have worked!* HA! >you can always try bribing people to > vote for you (I know at least one person who did...). I didn't!! I gave someone whose alias rymes with Pat Blug a rose on Sinister chat but that was it!! Mister Miller over to you my showbiz pal cha?! >As indeed are Fluffy's. I have now listened to side one, and lived to >tell the tale. There's a couple of funny bits, including someone's mum >telling her noisy kids off, which I like very much. I must also >mention the very fine drawngs that accompany the extensive sleeve >notes. It always helps to know what a group looks like, Bod on acid in >this case. Hey just cos my drawings aren't as good as...as...as.. well ANYTHING doesn'y mean they don't rule!! Gorkys look like Gorkys but the Super Furries are wrong. Cian does look like Cian though. (Keeping my message relvent for a whole list here....) That song you mention is the end of Barbed Wire, by GORKYS ZYGOTIC MYNCI, from their First album PATIO! Buy it cos its fabaddoosey. Your tape was fab as well Peej. (Does anyone ever call you Peej or am I being really sad and having flashbacks to when Ant and Dec were known as Pee Jay and Duncan, and people called PJ, Peej? Or they did in Smash Hits anyway, OH SOD OFF I still think of them as being from Byker Grove.) I like the Etta james. >Speaking of Tim, the envelope Flufy sent me originated from Ed Mason, >-yet I could find no trace of Tim's famous underpants. Just cos I make it a principle never to buy jaffa cake envelopes.....and it is from Ed cos Ed is my tape tree dude. NICK MORTON! Your tapes shall be sent soon, I just need to copy Lindas, yes I stil have Lindas, eep. Shugar. I always thought Tim wore laydeez knickers though, gosh darn it I must have been wrong, d'oh, what wackiness abounds here my young chaps.... Weej - Wee Jay, Wudge? wrote: >HaHa! Last night on British TV there was a film about a french boy >called Philippe seducing american girls. The fatal flaw in the theory >is my tragic lack of fame though. See, SInister is taking over the world, evidence. Dr WATSON computer program... TAG-liatelle (boom boom) TROUSERS skirt shop P. MILLER PLUMBING PHILIPPE films PAUL MITCHELL haircare HONEY waggle beer Um, can't be arsed to think of any more... Got to carry on by mentioning a few things. Look at what MINX magazine wrote. For Girls With A Lust For Life. BAH!!! According to that, all girlies have to be: 'in Virgin, buying all the best tunes ready mixed and pissing off down the high street for more serious stuff like clothes shopping'. GAH?? GAH!?!??!? SHould I buy myself a GREY cardigan as well??? If I'm lucky I can be like the GREY skirted firl who says 'ooh I'm nicer when I'm drunk' Woo isnt she being cutting edge. And another all in black woman who says that only 'wide boyz' are attractive. YEAH!!! Screw you hippy. Ooh GRRRRRRRR. The Slits could kick your ass. Even though I saw Viv Albertine or whatever on ROCK FAMILY TREES (about Soozie and the BAnshees....whenever I mention them I ALWAYS have to sing Part Time Punks by them TVPS) and she has turned into a grey top wearing trendy dude as well.. *sigh* And also, they say 'when all you want is the new Manics CD'. *sigh* AND I BET they would mean 'This is my truth show me yours go on i'll give you 50p'. The Holy Bible would scare their combat pedal pushing hides right outta MORGAN. *too long* I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 19:16:22 1998 From: ian at xxx.com (Ian Connelly) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:16:22 -0800 Subject: Sinister: cat power? In-Reply-To: <19981110181929.14464.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: cat power is definitely an acquired taste - when i first bought 'dear sir' a few years ago i was immediately struck by how she (cat power is one person - chan marshall - with a rotating bunch of friends playing along ) couldn't really play guitar and how it was hard to follow the songs because they were a bit meandering and repetitive. but then they started to stick in my head. and i started to hum them on the way to work...and then i lost sight of the musicianship and got stuck in how emotional and clever and wonderful the songs were. now i love them, and while they're still pretty sparse, i think the songs are really genius and heartfelt and amazing. i'd recommend getting 'what would the community think?' (LP) first - or maybe just the _nude as the news_ single (closest thing to a proper 'rock' song she's done). late at night, i think her version of smog's _bathysphere_ (she was for a while seeing bill from smog, i think - at one show she played here in san francisco he was standing next to me and she played that song TWICE and then eventually just ran off the stage while he stood stiff and still and silent...) or maybe _colors and the kids_ (from the new record you don't like) at low volume after having maybe a bit too much alcohol ought to be enough to make anyone cry. or fall in love. (then again, maybe you wouldn't see this as a good thing...) ian At 10:19 AM -0800 11/10/98, r. h. wrote: > i don't get it. i bought the new cat power a month or >so ago and it still hasn't made it to my c.d. player more >than twice. am i listening to it with the wrong set of >ears? uuuhhhhhh! i heard jim white's in there somewhere and >he's a genius but i guess he was sober the day he recorded. i'm >not pissing anyone off am i? i would like to see the beauty in it >but it just aint happening. ... > robbie > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajax at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 19:10:21 1998 From: ajax at xxx.com (Jake Reichert) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:10:21 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Mouth by Mouth. In-Reply-To: <19981110104529.AAA8584@jwemyss.musicchoice.co.uk> from "James Wemyss" at Nov 10, 98 10:46:57 am Message-ID: <199811101910.LAA23668@atari.saturn5.com> Did I notice a fleeting reference in there to His Name Is Alive? I think I did. They get my vote for favorite band (I'm a ridiculously obsessive collector when it comes to those kids). But then, I've got a truly disgusting portion of the 4AD catalogue gracing my cd and record collections, as well as my walls. > Lorraine wrote... > and I LOVE 'In Ribbons'. Ooohhh...1,000 Stars Burst Open. I get all shivery just thinking about it. > Greatest band ever is still a toss up between Throwing Muses Let me induce some list jelousy by pointing out that I was at the last ever Muses show. Sure, it was sad, but boy were they GOOD. So what else is good out there? Let's see... Trash Can Sinatras (more Scottish bands! Yay!) Transient Waves Stereolab Komeda Colin Newman Insides Fuxa etc, etc. Too many to name, but those are the ones that have been gracing my cd player of late. By the way, if anyone knows where I could acquire a copy of the 1990 v23 calendar, I'd gladly trade my kidneys for it. I'm just that kind of guy. -mrjake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 19:18:51 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:18:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Saint Etienne/shoegazing etc Message-ID: For all you San Franciscans eagerly awaiting the arrival of the Et, I can tell you that you won't be disappointed. 'Good Humor' was deliberately written to be played live and the band they've got, including the remarkably named Edgar Summertyme on bass is their best ever. Three backing singers will whip you into a boa-waving frenzy while Bob and Pete do their stuff on the moogs (occasionally popping off stage for a Guinness). Despite such thrills, Creation has apparently rewarded the Et for this sterling work by dropping them. Ho hum. As for Oasis saving the world from shoegazing, I have to admit that the very phenomena of shoegazing has been highlighted as one of the key reasons why people hate students so much. The unifying effect of Oasis T-shirts, bowl haircuts and Black Grape healed temporarily this division in society though when the student classes started to get their tents nicked by scallies at Glastonbury, this fliratation with prole chic began to wane (notice Johnny Cigarettes' review of The Verve at Haigh Hall in Wigan - anyone would think that the fop had been dumped in downtown Beirut, rather than a very pleasant golf course in Lancashire). To conclude: Belle and Sebastian have no connection whatsoever to shoegazing, Oasis or the very tired pre-Millennium angst rock ethic. Now, C86, jangling, shambling, that's another matter... PS/Who was the person who voted for me? It can't have been my mum because she's on holiday at the moment. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 19:32:26 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:32:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: "99% of gargoyles look like Bob Todd." In-Reply-To: <199811101013.KAA03230@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001be0ce0$d99ff8e0$550c93c3@whelan> Ahoy there listees.... Xavier wrote this about Moose..... "Yep, I saw them open for the Cocteau Twins at the Tower Theater in Philly a few years ago. They were amazing I must say, totally stunning, in this countryesque shoegazer way (but more rockin' and much better than Mojave 3 who are just not up to snuff). I met them afterwrads at the meet n' greet backstage--and although it seems as if they started drinking as soon as they stepped off of the stage they were all really swell guys. I talked to Lincoln the most. I heard demos of the new album and it's kidna strange--more sophisticated maybe? Still seemed great though." I saw Moose open for the Coctaus in Warrington a few years back. They were indeed fantastic. I did mean to get some of their stuff but don't know what to get first, anyone got any recommendations ?. Mr S Gardiner ESQ wrote... On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Gary Done wrote: > > Before I start replying, I just thought I'd point out that noone's mentioned > the luscious Mr Miller when trying to suss out who the leaders of the list > crush league could be. I'd of said he's a dead cert for the mainland Europe > list member who's in joint lead wouldn't you all ?. Oh and I think Fluffy is > one of the others cos you all love her, even when she's telling you you all > smell, now come one, you know you do. Well I'm not giving anything away. Not because it's secret, but just to build up the tension a bit. We currently have one person from England and one from mainland Europe on 5 votes each, and another English person storming into the lead on 7. The closest from the other side of the Atlantic is on a measly 3 votes. But that may change when I add my votes in... I may well post the standings tomorrow, but it depends if any of the main contenders get any more votes (believe me, it matters) so get them in quick! I've sussed it, it's you isn't it Stu, you're the leader from England aren't you, you've been voting for yourself again. You'll never learn will you, have you forgotten your attempt to become Prime Minister already ?. 87) I must admit, I'm quite intrigued to find out who the stud/studettes are now. Mr Miller wrote.... "As indeed are Fluffy's. I have now listened to side one, and lived to tell the tale. There's a couple of funny bits, including someone's mum telling her noisy kids off, which I like very much. I must also mention the very fine drawngs that accompany the extensive sleeve notes. It always helps to know what a group looks like, Bod on acid in this case." Ah that would be the splendid "Barbed Wire" by Gorkys a most excellent track if I say so myself. Hehehe, I liked the drawings as well, if you'd only seen the effort she put into doing them. 87) YAY, BOD, how cool was that, damn I want the video but it's fecking 8.99 when all the other kids vids are 3.99, rip off or what ?. "Mullet Man, I only got two votes last time, and I've got even uglier since then, as a quick glance at the photo page will reveal." Hey I'm shocked, I'd of thought you'd have been a dead cert. Still, think yourself lucky, some of us only got one vote you know. I don't know, maybe I'll get some sympathy votes now there's some babyish photos of me on the photo page. 87) "Speaking of Tim, the envelope Flufy sent me originated from Ed Mason, yet I could find no trace of Tim's famous underpants." She's cheap, we all knew it, this just goes to prove it. 87) NOTE to Fluffy, I'm only joking, please don't push me under my train...PLEASE!!! Anyway, I need some tea, so I'm off to get a bite to eat. See Ya Gary "This cycle is not constructed to carry a passenger". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com> Tue Nov 10 19:38:53 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com> (kellym at xxx.com>) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 11:38:53 -0800 Subject: Sinister: can't stop the cat power Message-ID: <199811101942.LAA13369@macbeth.ienet.com> have you been looking into my window for the past week? i dont appreciate you spying on me and then posting it all over the internet. either way, the new cat power is amazing even though i couldnt find even one person to go see her play in concert. its a very subtle album, its not something that just knocks you down right off, but it definately builds up after a few listens. try it, you'll like it. -kelly ryan mcguire "it must just be the colors and the kids that keep me alive cos the music is boring me to death" ---------- From: Ian Connelly To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Re: Sinister: cat power? Date: Tue, Nov 10, 1998, 11:16 AM >i'd recommend ... >or maybe _colors and the kids_ >(from the new record you don't like) at low volume after having maybe a >bit too much alcohol ought to be enough to make anyone cry. or fall in love. >(then again, maybe you wouldn't see this as a good thing...) > >ian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Tue Nov 10 19:53:54 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (keith m) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:53:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: moose again Message-ID: <364899D2.832D76B7@bignet.net> gary wrote- >I saw Moose open for the Coctaus in Warrington a few years >back. They were >indeed fantastic. I did mean to get some of their stuff >but don't know what >to get first, anyone got any recommendations ?. i think all three of their full lengths are essential but my favorite is probably 'honey bee' which was their second. it is the breeziest and most perfect. 'xyz' is a little more plodding but has amazing songs like 'screaming' and 'polly'. the last one 'live a little, love a lot' is a tad too precious, i saw one review lament that it was too pretty which is a weird thing to say but it is big on atmosphere and less on hooks. also their is lincoln's project Polar who sound like they should have been on Sarah records(fey jangle and strings) but the singer is not always up to the task. keith mcl oh and to the person who said they have heard the new record is it heavier? i heard it was supposed to be thus, also are they only a duo now? russell and kevin? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Tue Nov 10 19:44:19 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:44:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the lying tall git Message-ID: <36489793.4B0E@earthlink.net> hey, that's very funny you tall git. now come on and tell these fine people the truth. here's the real list crush tally. he sent it to me first with a note begging me to split the votes up so people wouldn't feel left out. here it is: with 674 votes: brad with 3 votes: the tall one with half a "maybe if i was drunk" vote: fluffy i told him "no" that i wanted to be secure in the knowledge that i am supremer ruler, but apparently he decided to do things his own way. hmmmmph! -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 20:13:55 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:13:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: "more cat power batman" said robin sick of the caped crusaders's fuzzbox records.... Message-ID: <19981110201355.18685.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> dawhlings, again.... Ian Connelly wrote: "cat power is definitely an acquired taste.....but then they started to stick in my head. and i started to hum them on the way to work...now i love them...the songs are really genius and heartfelt and amazing." wow ian. i have only properly listened to moon pix and i acn safely say it is *gorgeous*. when i was in new york it was the only album i heard over and over...everyone who i visited was playing it at some point...my host had it playing when i arrived and it didn't leave the cd player until i left....from start to finish i'd claim it's as close to a perfect album as i've heard this year. 'tis a funny thing but chan marshall et al supported the dirty 3 during the summer here in londres...and for some stupid reason which involved the promise of sex i missed out. (on both counts for that matter). so no matter what...come hail, rain, sleet or celine dion having it off with richard ashcroft (popular tonight aren't we richard?) i have to see this amazing cat power outfit on thursday. robbie said: "i don't get it. i bought the new cat power a month or so ago and it still hasn't made it to my c.d. player more than twice. am i listening to it with the wrong set of ears? uuuhhhhhh! i heard jim white's in there somewhere and he's a genius but i guess he was sober the day he recorded." ooh robbie - listen to her voice, alone, gin and tonic in hand, mind free of anything other than the love of your life and how gorgeous everything can be when it works out and how terribly lung-emptying when it doesn't. ah, god i can't speak today. - lady penelope "you see a ghost, i see a halo" _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cms247 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 10 20:13:58 1998 From: cms247 at xxx.edu (clint stauffer) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:13:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Attn: NYC list members Message-ID: <36489E86.18DBE506@is6.nyu.edu> Hi. I know this is on rather short notice and really isn't Belle and Sebastian related and only applies to a small percentage of the list members, but here it goes. All apologies. PJ Harvey is recording a show tonight for the PBS series "Sessions on West 54th St." and I won a pair of tickets to see it. The person who was supposed to go with me can't make it and I don't want the other ticket go to waste. So, if you're in the NYC area, are a fan of Ms. Harvey, and can make a 8 pm show tonight, send me a message. I'll be away from my computer for the next couple hours, so you may want to include where you can be reached around 5 o'clock. Sorry for the list abuse, but I thought it might be of interest to someone. Clint +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Tue Nov 10 20:04:03 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:04:03 +-100 Subject: Sinister: Everything in general and nothing in concrete Message-ID: <01BE0CEF.76066440@Abonado-195-53-45-85.cat.es> Hi, sinisterites: I have received "Tigermilk" and the english radio sessions, which were sent to me by a guy called Stuart Gardiner. Really wonderful. I think that some of the astronauts who came to explore at the "discovery" should have taken a copy with them, because I just can?t imagine how it could be hearing "electronic renaissance" a million miles from home. Yesterday I heard a song from the forthcoming Velocette album. Really lovely. I am looking forward to hear the whole album. Tara Widmer wrote: "i have no idea if the Et are any good in concert, but after waiting 6 years for them to grace our shores it's so exciting! break out the platform shows, lame gold hotpants and feather boas, I say! Girls, too!! someone asked about heroes, I have to say Ms Cracknell is quite high on the list for me. She has the voice of an angel and the kind of popstar-drag-queen icon thing working for her. Who cares about the wonky eye, she's just precious. They did this VH-1 (christ, i watch too much of that...) "divas" special and instead of having any real glam chicks it was all ho-hum city with Celine Dion and Pariah Scarey. Sarah is way cooler..." I saw them live at the spanish Benicassim Festival (along with PJ.Harvey, Bjork, Sonic Youth, Teenage Fanclub, Tindersticks, Gorkys Zigotic Mincy, Goldie,...... anything to envy to the english ones ? I do not think so) and they were really sweet. I do not have any of their albums, but if you can make dance 20.000 people who are tired of walking 45 minutes in order to get into the stage, be sure that you have something special. They ended with a slower version of "He is on the phone". Anyway, I just cannot imagine Celine Dion singing this song or Mariah Carey making a crime of "Silvye". Can you ? Stuart, I have sent you an E-Mail, but possibly something has gone wrong with my computer and you did not got it. Let me know, please. Jordi. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 20:22:01 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:22:01 PST Subject: Sinister: crushes and stuff Message-ID: <19981110202201.29130.qmail@hotmail.com> a) well thanks to all the latter votes....anastasia and janine for counting me in on crushland! and also john monroe who reads the archives for giving me his vote! b) i'll have to spread the votes to francisco as well, who got got bounced from the list...he intro'd me to b&s in the first place, gave me tigermilk, and got me the ticket for the first b&s show c) rialto's album, for whoever asked, is pretty good- i adore the first five songs very much, and i don't usually listen to this kind of stuff! like anastasia said, i am usually floating away in shoegazer land d) and MARK- hey, you didn't mention me in you new york ramble! is it because i didn't say goodbye properly? or did you forget that i am a lurker listee??? i think i deserved some mention, because i was present on both b&s occasions and am also in the "nyc grand central station" listee photo well, enough of these listee lists, i shall go back to lurking lorraine ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mdellima at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 20:16:30 1998 From: mdellima at xxx.com (mark del lima) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 12:16:30 -0800 Subject: Sinister: cat power? Message-ID: <199811102016.MAA40786@scv4.apple.com> the woman under the moniker of cat power produces some of the most deeply personal and transcending music (the likes of which haven't been heard since that of kristen hersch). try 'what would the community think?'. i think you'll be pleasantly surprised even if other records seem weak. regards, mark. > > > i don't get it. i bought the new cat power a month or >so ago and it still hasn't made it to my c.d. player more >than twice. am i listening to it with the wrong set of >ears? uuuhhhhhh! i heard jim white's in there somewhere and >he's a genius but i guess he was sober the day he recorded. i'm >not pissing anyone off am i? i would like to see the beauty in it >but it just aint happening. > > oh! and how do you get to the picture page now?(i was asleep that >day) > >on a positive side of things, i think i have offically started >back smoking and i feel so much better. it was the belle and >sebastian show that did it. even brad smoked that night. a whole >year for nothing. > >did anyone catch mr. show last night? it was one of the best >episodes i've seen(besides the one with the gay rock and roll >band) > > robbie > >what's the difference between a dead baby and a bathtub?(this is a >sick "i-can't-believed-i-laughed-at-that-joke that i read in a joke >book) > >you can't screw the bathtub! > >i know it was sick, send hate mail personaly > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mbgustat at xxx.net Tue Nov 10 21:02:02 1998 From: mbgustat at xxx.net (Mike) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:02:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: 215 messages about bilk Message-ID: <01BE0CC3.74ED0900.mbgustat@idt.net> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 21:06:16 1998 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:06:16 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Saint Etienne/shoegazing etc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Slightly related to B & S but not completely. Why do no good bands ever ever play in Kent, England at all ever? We're really bored here. Can anyone send us some tapes so that we can pretend that we are at a B&S concert? I'M GOING NOW BYE!!! Robert ---------------------- Ian Hatcher igh1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Tue Nov 10 22:59:40 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:59:40 -0800 Subject: Sinister: arms of sex, voting booth crimes, list crush announcements Message-ID: <000e01be0cfd$cd5dfa60$2411020a@rebelstrange> peter, my J is for Jo.......hanna. fun huh? Arms of Sex would be a great album title. that was highly amusing. "cruel yet sensual lips"?? hmm, hello Jess, sorry but i'm not going to say anything about Stuart's (nonexistent) arse today. It would just be improper. But you really ought to wax poetic about his molded-plastic Ken-doll chest......haha(!) I have an issue to mull over, Isobel is always getting described as snotty and disinterested-looking at shows.....but i have the same problem. I could just be sitting around minding my own business, in my own mental world, and immediately throngs of people surround me asking what i'm so pissed off about, or why can't i smile, or what IS the matter? it's not something i can help or anything i am aware of doing, but that's how I look to the outside world......maybe Isobel has that same affliction?....just a musing for you.....(or else a sorry attempt to pretend I have something in common with a gorgeous pop star) PTOOEY!! to the voting booth! I demand to know if anyone on this list truly believes that "Arab Strap" is more deserving of top rating than "Judy and the dream of horses" or "Photo Jenny" or "if YOu're feeling sinister" or "Lazy...Jane". cos anyone who does, would just be plain silly!! this is an outrage. I shall be entering my protest vote forthwith.........(tho i can't comment on Modern Rock song as i have yet to hear it!) *YAY*!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the new EP!!!!!!!!!!!! and VIDEO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! had to get that out. I wonder if some kind soul out there would be up to making me a tape of Felt, Field Mice, sarah bands, other loverly things that i have been too poor to discover, but have heard so much about that it makes me very sad. Just a thought.......from one eager to learn. (bats eyelashes in attempt to look *twee*, helpless, and pretty) And REJOICE! one and all, for I will let you know the instant that my DC pics become available online for your interested perusal.......i got the new ones back and the resolution and quality is really quite fabulous, i expect to have more once i've tweaked in the darkroom a bit, and I expect they will be quite pleasing to look at and treasure. the page should be up withinn the day....... My list crushes are Stevie Trousers, cos he's just brilliantly hilarious(and he flattered me once)....and paul honey, cos he's just a kitten....(purrr) damn, i dont 'have a girl crush yet, how ironic.......any girls out there looking for love? anyone who replies will have to live up to Isobel's example.......haha so anyway, put in my votes!! oh yeah, and i have a crush on Jo from the record sleeves, cos she is really quite stylish. I have the tigermilk cover as my wall paper right now.. I love that one. a knife and a bike chain, lalala....... lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 21:21:29 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:21:29 EST Subject: Sinister: not even one for me! Message-ID: <6765dd3d.3648ae59@aol.com> Dear list, So, out of 800 of you, nobody loves me! And me, I love you all! Where is my Sebastian? Is it because my posts are lacking in creativity and generally uninteresting? Well, yes, that could do it.. I admit I am a bit uncultured and don't have much to add to your debates. But now come on, I'm little and naive, and cheese is my favorite food. Isn't it appealing? And I also like to run and jump. How can that be bad? Anyhow. Is the Acid House soundtrack available in the United States yet? Or, ever? Can I get the Modern Rock Song EP on December 7, too? Please? Time for me to go. Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Tue Nov 10 23:24:08 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 15:24:08 -0800 Subject: Sinister: list crush, cat power Message-ID: <001b01be0d01$3810b520$2411020a@rebelstrange> ahhhh.....were i in NYC, i would be out to see miss Polly Jean in a nano second....ALAS!! keen and wail.... I DEMAND to know who voted for me as list crush! (one lousy vote?!) i am probably too flattered, imagine it was some one who just felt sorry for me being a lonely newcomer.....! but if not, show yourself! I guess i voted a little too late, but ya can add mine to the updated version..... I have taped a song off the new Cat Power, from the radio, I thought iit was gorgeous. I heard the older stuff long time ago, but don't remember if I liked it or not....but Chan Marshall is pretty cute anyway...saw her picture in Puncture mag!!! long as yall are listing other bands, i have to join in as well....Lida Husik, one of the most criminally underexposed musicians of our time, is recommended listening, as are Sandra Bell, that Silver Apples reissue, the Geraldine Fibbers, and uh....well, i admit it, all i've really been listening to lately is Tigermilk,over and over again. but check out the Headcoatees, they're a party all on their own, make you feel REAL happy and filthy...and Holly GoLightly's solo stuff too. I demand to find a Slits record, a DQE record, and a Headcoatees record, or I will die. and some naughty Mad Libs, and how!!! they gave themselves up to the allure of bustiers and crotchless panties..... lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 21:44:39 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 16:44:39 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Re: Message-ID: <3648B3BA.3344@javanet.com> ooo cordelia's dad another great band from my town glad someone on here digs them they are amazing esp live for those that dontt know they are ultraditional folk band (guitar, dulcimer, frame drum, fiddle, shape note singing), Steve Albini produced their latest album which is incredible oh yeah and the lead singer looks like a pirate with a shaved head and big hoop earing, at least he did the last time i saw him ----Ev np-X-More Fun In The New World +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 21:59:55 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:59:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian speak! Message-ID: How do, Saint Etienne, the Fanclub, Sonic Youth, Goldie, Bjork??? Lordy Jordi that does indeed sound like fine festival fare. Sure beats seeing Lawagon at midday in a field in Berkshire. Anyway listees, here's that Belle and Sebastian interview I promised you from the long-forgotten but occasionally rather splendid Bigwig magazine. If anyone knows what became of the editors (Lyn, Thea, the two Lesleys - yes they went through a few editors alright), then please let me know. They don't owe me money or anything, I'm just curious. Here goes then, this is from November 1996, an issue which featured James Lavelle on the cover and also had interviews with Beth Orton and Tiger. PS/To the Moose virgins, I'd give my vote to their 'hit' album, 'XYZ' 'Love And Fate' by Roy Moller "Maybe it was the fact that we'd just got together that meant I could just let go for the first time. I ws quite confident the band would do it. We only had a very short period of time to do the LP and if we didn't leave everything up to fate and the combinations of our actions we'd never have got anywhere" Belle and Sebastian singer/songwriter Stuart Murdoch is recalling the recording of 'Tigermilk', their first LP (released on Glasgow's Stow College's Electric Honey label). Since then, the Glasgow septet have recorded a new album and played a Mark Radcliffe radio session. And they'd like to record a third album before the year's out. Good going for a band formed early this year. These days such an alliance of productivity and talent is rare indeed. With so many Britpop bands adopting string sections like costume jewellery, Belle and Sebastian's second album 'If You're Feeling Sinister' (out this month on Jeepster) is subtly augmented by cello, vioin and trumpet. From the wistful 'Mayfly' to the upbeat atheism of the title track, rich yet understated arrangements permeate the record like the warm flush of a good malt. Allied to vocals that suggest a folk Momus or Nick Drake with a Morrissey fixation, bittersweet evocations of childhood and adolescence such as the recorder-enhanced 'Judy and the Dream of Horses' combine vulnerability and directness in equal measure. "I think CS Lewis said that if you have to write for children and reduce everything to quite simple, clear ideas then you're usually gonna' come up with something pretty good." comments Stuart. It's an approach that's paid dividends. According to basist Stuart David, keeping things simple and clear is the Belle and Sebastian ethic. "It's just about not doing unnecessary things 'cos all it really is is writing a song and letting people that want to hear it, hear it." This dedication to clarity is matched by the trust in instinct that saw the band through 'Tigermilk'. Hence Belle and Sebastian's signing a one- album deal to the newly formed Jeepster. As Stuart M. explains, "We knew we had to do a record for them because they were just nutcases really. You should always let yourself feel it by fate and they were the first company that hassled us." True to their penchant for favouring local locations such as Glasgow's intimate Cafe Soma over traditional rock venues, an upcoming visit to London sees the band playing the Rough Trade shop and supporting Tindersticks for two nights at the Institute of Contemporary Arts. Due to these commitments, the recording of that new album might have to wait 'till the new year. Since recording 'Tigermilk' in March, things have happened pretty fast. "It's like a battle with the real world but that's to be expected," says Stuart M., adding, "It's a nightmare but sort of fun as well because in the past you might have started off with a little idea, then you indulge yourslef to the point of playing in a pub and you're trying to carry on your indulgence and see your perfect idea right through to the high street." Seek out 'If You're Feeling Sinister' in a high street near you now. If you're looking for music to warm your winter, Belle and Sebastian are the perfect indulgence. >From Bigwig, November 1996 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Tue Nov 10 22:42:54 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 22:42:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: study, doesn't rhyme with judy Message-ID: <00b301be0cfb$755b60c0$03000004@n2f9x2> good day mes enfants, watched 3 films over weekend, each notable. 1. the exorcist, it's so twee, but then i was pissed 2. something about a heatwave on a remote scottish island. sample quote "they killed my sheep". can't remember much of this one, i was pissed 3. what's up doc, with barbra streisand. i now have a role model, and it was fucking hilarious, but then i was hungover. (whispers) "can someone procure me a copy of 'loneliness of a cheese factory date labeller', sorry, 'middle distance runner'. I WANT IT, anyone able to assist receives a photo of moi, in a fur coat (known as 'Coaty'), in the Co-op, admiring some Spam. Enticing, non? alix. oh, and can i do a poem?, i have one written called 'ode to a late piemaker' it's quality penmanshit. oh, for fuck's sake, there's no way nicky wire is on the list. stop being SO SILLY. "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 23:22:16 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:22:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: HA! In-Reply-To: <199811101813.SAA25592@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000401be0d00$f4d4cb20$cf0c93c3@whelan> Mr Stu made my day with this.... "OK, here's the moment you've all been waiting for (Actually I may as well admit - I was going to post a provisional list last week sometime, but I was winning so it was too embarrassing...). Any mistakes with names spelt wrong etc are probably my fault, but never mind. The list below is correct to the best of my knowledge! And the winner is... - -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 8 votes: FLUFFY SARAH 6 votes: Peter Miller" See I told you, I bloody knew it, I'm a smartarse me. 87) Fluffy, did I not say to you the other day that it would be you and Peter, oh yes I bloody did and Mr Miller, you tried to convince me it wouldn't be you, but you were wrong weren't you. 87) Ok, so who were the other seven who voted for Fluffy then, I'll see you all out in the car park in five minutes. 87) I'M BUGGERING OFF NOW BYE !!!! Gary "This cycle is not constructed to carry a passenger". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twilton at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 23:35:35 1998 From: twilton at xxx.uk (James Wilton) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:35:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: la petite fille de mon comic strip Message-ID: <002101be0d02$d144df40$1ce9b094@oemcomputer> Hello! Does anybody know what happened to a man called Bill Fay? He did a couple of albums called 'Bill Fay' and 'Time of the Last Persecution'. I was jarred into asking this by Mojo mag, and seeing as everybody is soooo clued up on music round these parts you all seemed the ideal bunch to ask (and I hadn't posted anything for bazillions of years (does anyone else have stupid way of saying a large number?) I've just watched the first episode of that Rock Star thingy on channel 4 and it was toss! I hope it gets better next week, as I'm willing to give it a second go, but it will have to shape up, I can teel ye! I used to have a favourite coat. It was black and plasticky with red and white bits at funny angles. But it was also a magic coat. You could detach the arms! And what's more, once you had unzipped the arms you could put one arm into the other and carry it over your shoulder on a strap! It was then a really bad sleeveless thing. I think Michael J Fox had one in one of his films. I wish I still had it, but I suppose refering to it as magic only brings me kudos if I am on a primary school playground, and telling children that you have a magic coat when you're my age is frowned upon! In my CD player at the moment: Elliot Smith - XO Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left Delakota - One Love (I've got a three disc player, Yay!) "So you think I'm fruity! Nyahah!" Love James +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twilton at xxx.uk Tue Nov 10 23:37:35 1998 From: twilton at xxx.uk (James Wilton) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:37:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: la petite fille de mon comic strip Message-ID: <000301be0d03$194b97c0$1ce9b094@oemcomputer> Hello! Does anybody know what happened to a man called Bill Fay? He did a couple of albums called 'Bill Fay' and 'Time of the Last Persecution'. I was jarred into asking this by Mojo mag, and seeing as everybody is soooo clued up on music round these parts you all seemed the ideal bunch to ask (and I hadn't posted anything for bazillions of years (does anyone else have stupid way of saying a large number?) I've just watched the first episode of that Rock Star thingy on channel 4 and it was toss! I hope it gets better next week, as I'm willing to give it a second go, but it will have to shape up, I can teel ye! I used to have a favourite coat. It was black and plasticky with red and white bits at funny angles. But it was also a magic coat. You could detach the arms! And what's more, once you had unzipped the arms you could put one arm into the other and carry it over your shoulder on a strap! It was then a really bad sleeveless thing. I think Michael J Fox had one in one of his films. I wish I still had it, but I suppose refering to it as magic only brings me kudos if I am on a primary school playground, and telling children that you have a magic coat when you're my age is frowned upon! In my CD player at the moment: Elliot Smith - XO Nick Drake - Five Leaves Left Delakota - One Love (I've got a three disc player, Yay!) "So you think I'm fruity! Nyahah!" Love James +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Tue Nov 10 23:47:42 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:47:42 EST Subject: Sinister: delusions of grandeur Message-ID: Greetings from an increasingly cold city called New York. The Little Blonde Mark wrote: << But the best thing about NYC was the company of the listees I was lucky enough to meet. I'm only sorry that I didn't get to speak to some of you more, particularly Matthew, Brian, Michele, Minka and the legendary Jonny (are you feeling a bit better love?) >> Well, I am hardly legendary, but I *am* feeling a bit better, thanks. I am so sorry that we couldn't spend more time together, but you were an absolute angel. Which reminds me, dear listees, If you are saying to yourself right now, "Oh, there's that bastard Jonny, fancies himself a cat he does, he owes me a tape or an e-mail or a lurid encounter at a roadside toilet..." Please forgive me, as I have been under the influence of some strange bronchial infection which has caused me weeks of vague hallucinations. Indeed, just this morning I thought I was in foggy Paris with Julien, and he was making me some of his famous warm spiced wine to ease my throat. Or was he trying to poison me? Anyway, a bit later Joss came over and started playing children's lullabies on his turntables for me, with just a touch of scratchy-scratch, while I lay in recovery. Then I awoke out of my deluded stupor, screaming to an empty room, "NOT ONE CRUSH VOTE???!!!" Shortly thereafter, the lovely Janine Queen Bee buzzed: << Actually, come to think of it, every single person I have met from this list is adorable... what are the chances of that???!! I mean, Megan, Johnny, Anastasia, Lorraine, Mark, oh, I know there are more that I'm leaving out, but... you are all the CUTEST!!!! >> I realize this is not official, but I choose to construe this as a vote. Like I said, I am still a tad delusional. = ) I love you all to pieces, jonny the kat meow xxxxxooooo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dagrayson at xxx.edu Wed Nov 11 00:01:53 1998 From: dagrayson at xxx.edu (~Dana~) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:01:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: piano, etc Message-ID: >>I learned to play the violin parts to The Boy Done Wrong.. and Ease Your >>Feet.., and the piano to Seeing Other People and Fox in the Snow. Can we >>post >>these things too, or are they too elementary and easy to figure out on your >>own? if you dont post the pian part for seeing other people i would love it if you would send me a copy anyway. i dont have great piano access at school, so when i go i cant sit and figure thigns out, you know? anyway, thanks : ) -dana +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 10 23:58:31 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 18:58:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: What a Transparent Day Message-ID: <3648D327.8EF9BBA1@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hullo List, Had an interesting day, thought I'd relate some tidbits. First, let me see, what I have I got in my bag of quoted posts... Says Jason Brent: > Anyways, I > noticed that he was playing all his choices on vinyl. When I asked him > why, he said everyone knows that cd's are going to turn to dust in 25 > years! Instant anxiety attack insued!!! He said most of the TRUE music > fans he sells to have all switched back to vinyl. Is anyone else aware > of this? Do you people buy cd's, or albums? Needless to say, I grabbed The deal is, some very old compact discs, from around '87 or so, have had some problems. At certain plants, the ink written on the CD has bled through the plastic as the years went by and pretty much ruined all CDs made at those plants. No one knows what the future of the rest of CDs holds, but they're probably okay. Then again, you never know. No one knew that color photographs fade after a time. At least, the ones made by today's processes. So the same sort of thing could happen, who knows. Lesley Jo, back on her own writes: > PTOOEY!! to the voting booth! I demand to know if anyone on this list > truly believes that "Arab Strap" is more deserving of top rating than > "Judy and the dream of horses" or "Photo Jenny" or "if YOu're feeling > sinister" or "Lazy...Jane". cos anyone who does, would just be plain > silly!! this is an outrage. I shall be entering my protest vote > forthwith.........(tho i can't comment on Modern Rock song as i have > yet to hear it!) No qualms have I with Arab Strappy on the top of the charts, but there are numerous songs I too think should rank above it. I'm probably the only hardcore proponent of "Electronic Renaissance," but oh well. I would like to proclaim the TRIUMPHANT VICTORY of Loneliness of Middle-Distance Runner over all foes! Huzzah! I don't understand people's fascination with Modern Rock Song, as it's one of my least-favorites. Too, I'm not that big of a fan of The State That I Am in. But of course we all know that Sinister has diverse tastes. It was a nice day out today, unseasonably warm, even. A nice breeze was blowing. I took this Ink Polaroid, so I'll let you all see. The picture is of me, though it's been taken from behind, so those of you unfamiliar with the back of my head may not of realized that it was me. It's decidely fall in Athens, and the air is thick with humidity, and a bit warm. I'm carrying a jacket with me, but I'm just wearing a T-shirt just now. It looks a bit odd, as I'm crossing a square, and as I'm walking I'm looking straight up at the sky. Then as your eye trails up to the sky, you notice all the leaves being blown about. Evidently I'm watching the leaves as they're blown about by the cool wind that is cutting through the humidity. They fall down slowly, billowed by the wind as they are, sort of like large, brown snowflakes. It's really quite pretty. A cursory examination of the lower regions of the picture yields several piles of leaves from the brilliantly yellow gingko tree in front of me. The wind is blowing them about in little eddies and whorls. There's a few raindrops on the wind, but they don't seem to bother me much. They're pretty infrequent, and cool rather than cold. Kind of nice actually. Later on the rain was to pick up, a few hundred paces from my apartment, and I had to don my jacket and pull the hood over. Despite the rain, upon getting to my apartment I grabbed an umbrella and while the rain spattered upon it, I picked up my mail, which to my surprise, included a recording of my next release! I'm quite pleased, needless to say. I must be off in a second, but first I must say I was able to wear my Study at Stow tee today (that's the one from the polaroid). I managed to find a fan amongst the masses, someone I used to have a huge crush on, who's dating my assistant from the radio station. She has good taste otherwise too. He doesn't like them much yet, of course, but he will... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Tue Nov 10 23:08:53 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:08:53 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Bands etc Message-ID: <01be0cff$1617b9c0$0100007f@localhost> Toby wrote: >I just wanted to tell you all about the bands i love. >And of course Electronic is really great too. Electronic Renaissance or that band ? I LOVE Electronic Renaissance even it reminds me a CRAP song by a CRAP 80's Brazilian band called (oh my God) RPM The song is called "loiras geladas". Please, don't ask me to translate it. Poor J. Marr...I think he's a sad man. Tara I did not sent my votes to List Crush, but my vote goes to Tara. cause she sent me some candies some months ago Tara, please...don't send me again cause i am on diet :o) My vote goes to Dear Abi too. Abi, i lost your e-mail. Amazing Orlando tape...it made me laugh and it made me cry I need the lyrics of "Nature's Hated" ,"Afraid again" and " Don't sleep alone". Could you send me, PLEASE ? It reminds me one Orlando's gig on Valentine's Day. One of the best gig i went to. THANKS Abi.... THANKS !!!!! My vote goes to Courtney Shea Owen too Cause she has a NICE red hair. Courtney, Are you still with us in Sebastian, has a belly list ? I can't remember why i need to ask it David K. Do you used to work in a Record Shop ? Hey... I want to be famous too http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1389/ivo.htm Did i read something about CLASS here ? Class is GREAT !!!!! Ivo A P Escossia escossia at electus.com.br NP: Darling Buds POP SAID...but, MY GOD, this is SO happy, i will listen to Broadcast now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Cebudo at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 00:19:08 1998 From: Cebudo at xxx.com (Cebudo at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:19:08 EST Subject: Sinister: list crush Message-ID: my list crush vote goes to myself. at this moment, i would like to blush. aww, someone likes me. hug? ok. i feel good about myself now. andrew. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 00:21:24 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:21:24 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ungowa In-Reply-To: <199811102018.UAA01640@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000601be0d09$373a7fc0$cf0c93c3@whelan> Hello all, Tag wrote.... "Michael said: >Those that have been found to deteriorate have been traced back to >pressing plants with dodgy operational practices. Such as employing >too many people with ginger hair. And what is that supposed to mean, Sonny Jim? You can never have too many people with ginger hair. For this wanton bigotry, I blame Chris Evans and I blame Mick Hucknall but most of all, I blame Coronation Street's Liz MacDonald. She's a disgrace to the Sparkly Orange tribe the world over. God, I hate her. I hate her "But Jim!"s and "Shurt urp burth of you"s, but most of all I hate her workout video. Bianca, now she's a soap ginner that rocks. Why doesn't she do a workout video? I'd buy one." F**KIN right, except for that Bianca thing, she's completely destroyed any hope left for us gings. While I think we should all join together and beat the oppressive non gings, I can't help but hope that when we do finally win the hair colour revolution, those four are first against the wall for there crimes. Personally I can think of nothing worse than a Bianca work out video.... Well Ok Maybe Liz Mc's, but just. I'll just skip over and ignore Fluffy's slip into egomania and instead comment on this .... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:44:19 -0500 From: brad Subject: Sinister: the lying tall git hey, that's very funny you tall git. now come on and tell these fine people the truth. here's the real list crush tally. he sent it to me first with a note begging me to split the votes up so people wouldn't feel left out. here it is: with 674 votes: brad with 3 votes: the tall one with half a "maybe if i was drunk" vote: fluffy Ohhhhhh you're cruising for a bruising there, that's my number one girl your talking about there, right you and me outside now ya twat. 87) Keith M, cheers for the info re Moose, I'll be looking out for some stuff in the coming weeks. Right I'm going Gary "This cycle is not constructed to carry a passenger". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 00:26:12 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:26:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Agadoo In-Reply-To: <199811102018.UAA01640@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000801be0d09$e2df3be0$cf0c93c3@whelan> Hello all, Tag wrote.... "Michael said: >Those that have been found to deteriorate have been traced back to >pressing plants with dodgy operational practices. Such as employing >too many people with ginger hair. And what is that supposed to mean, Sonny Jim? You can never have too many people with ginger hair. For this wanton bigotry, I blame Chris Evans and I blame Mick Hucknall but most of all, I blame Coronation Street's Liz MacDonald. She's a disgrace to the Sparkly Orange tribe the world over. God, I hate her. I hate her "But Jim!"s and "Shurt urp burth of you"s, but most of all I hate her workout video. Bianca, now she's a soap ginner that rocks. Why doesn't she do a workout video? I'd buy one." F**KIN right, except for that Bianca thing, she's completely destroyed any hope left for us gings. While I think we should all join together and beat the oppressive non gings, I can't help but hope that when we do finally win the hair colour revolution, those four are first against the wall for there crimes. Personally I can think of nothing worse than a Bianca work out video.... Well Ok Maybe Liz Mc's, but just. I'll just skip over and ignore Fluffy's slip into egomania and instead comment on this .... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 14:44:19 -0500 From: brad Subject: Sinister: the lying tall git hey, that's very funny you tall git. now come on and tell these fine people the truth. here's the real list crush tally. he sent it to me first with a note begging me to split the votes up so people wouldn't feel left out. here it is: with 674 votes: brad with 3 votes: the tall one with half a "maybe if i was drunk" vote: fluffy Ohhhhhh you're cruising for a bruising there, that's my number one girl your talking about there, right you and me outside now ya twat. 87) Keith M, cheers for the info re Moose, I'll be looking out for some stuff in the coming weeks. Right I'm going Gary "This cycle is not constructed to carry a passenger". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 00:28:18 1998 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (L. Kerr) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:28:18 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Crushes Message-ID: Dear listees I would like to thank the person who voted for me in the list crush. As Honey denies all knowledge, then it must be some poor other soul. I am very pleased to be only one point behind the lovelies Charlotte, Oon and Keith, who must now be regretting his time away in the real world. The public are fickle. I didn't vote, but if I did, it would have been for Stuart G, as I am before him on the tape tree and have to keep on his good side for various sins of omission. Peter Millar wrote >Yes I did know that Brynsley Forbes (or something) out of >Aswad was in the Double Deckers. I fancied Tiger like mad, I >wish she'd join the list. I might have voted from Billie from the Double Deckers actually. What a role model for a young girl. Singing, dancing and watering plants. I don't know if I fancied her or wanted to be her. You know how it is. And I think Peter should make up his bloomin mind if the Tiger he lusted after was the small child, or the stripy soft toy of previously unspecified gender she carted around. Linda xxx *********** Linda Kerr L.Kerr at hw.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Astroboy24 at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 00:52:02 1998 From: Astroboy24 at xxx.com (Astroboy24 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 19:52:02 EST Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <258084a1.3648dfb2@aol.com> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Wed Nov 11 04:01:39 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:01:39 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Lord Anthony ?1yrics? (fwd) Message-ID: jimmy said: > am gonna post by my own translation from tmy recording. There are tapes > going out to a few of you already so if you have any suggestions on these > lyrics please post them to this list. I put in parentheses the lyrics that > I don't think are correct, but that's what it sounds like to me: can someone who has a copy of the athens show get in touch with me..i have a copy myself but im sure that someone out there will have a better quality one than me..id also be interested in some of the songs that i dont have that it seems others have (lonliness..etc) i dont seem to have much B&S stuff that no one else has but i do have a rather large live list..stuff like moz/smiths/pulp/suede and other bands..name a band and i can see if i have anything.. ok..ive listened to the song as well and in the [] will be what i think if it differs from yours: > Lord Ant(h)ony > > (Hunting in beauty school, [Anthony, bullied at school] > get your own bag) [get your own back] > now you are cool [now you are cruel (cool?)] > or are you still (jebunking off) though you're a tough [drunk enough] > it's all gone wrong again you got to (hold hands) > > But the teachers got no control > Boys aren't lying > You wont stay quiet [you will stay quiet] > Or you will die > > Returning, the back of the gym [Tony at the back of the gym] > Smoke another one, the chances are slim, > 'Cause here they come again > They got you on the prowl > You're tasting blood again > At least it's your own > > When will you realize it doesn't pay > To be smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys, > Shut your mouth, start kicking the football, > (Buy all new teeth) you were out for a week [bang on the teeth] > > You may as well take it in the guts, it could get worse > just take it in the guts, it could get worse > just take it in the guts, it could get worse > just take it in the guts, it kind of hurts there (to me) > > You'll soon be old enough to leave the man > Without a notion of a care > You'll leave two fingers in the air > (To me again) [to meager living??] > > Tony, you bit of a mess > (melt to) tow the rope under your dress [melted tolberone under your dress] > But if the kids could see you they would pass you right by > The mascara running over your eye > > Why don't you realize it doesn't pay > To be smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys, > Shut your mouth, start kicking the football, > (Bang on a tear) you were out for a week [bang on the teeth] > > They call you lord Antony (in pain) it could be worse [but hey] > Lord Antony but hey it could be worse > Lord Antony but hey it could be worse > Lord Antony but hey it kind of suits you anyway > > You'll soon be old enough to leave the man > Without a notion of a care > You'll leave two fingers in the air > (To me again) > > > end > > thats the best I can do > i dont know if the way i did this will make sense, rather than me just retyping, or if the computer will make it look rather funktified (we'll soon find out) roberta +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 04:11:29 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 20:11:29 PST Subject: Sinister: hot sex!!!!!!! Message-ID: <19981111041130.12821.qmail@hotmail.com> o.k., o.k., o.k.,--i'm going to listen to it again and see what happens, mabye i was in the wrong mood. i think at the time that i bought it i was listning to lambchop or bob dylan, so you can see how it's hard just to take dylan out of your player to throw in some new group i had never heard. man at the peer presure, i'm glad i wasn't "dissing" crack! you guys would have me on a street corner selling myself for a rock. but all in all it was lady penelopes words that stopped me from swinging by the pawn shop on the way to work tomarrow....thanks p! i hope you're right. and whoever said that i should be cremated, except for my ass, and had my ashes shoved straight up my dead ass and hung on a wall for not liking cat power,........ooops. sorry! belle and the boy are neat-o!(there's some b and s content for those of you who were afraid that this was becoming a cat power list) robbie....but you can call me daddy! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 05:08:29 1998 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:08:29 EST Subject: Sinister: this charming blood clot Message-ID: <798d7254.36491bcd@aol.com> Here, my queers, ...get away from me, I'm dying my hair. Har. Feeling and looking like a post- chemo Ari Up this weekend, I decided 'twas time to play Twister on my scalp again, albeit with fewer arms but just as confusing. No suspense, then: I hoped for nuclear reactor red, but the combo of not-yet-gone bleach and impatience, made me look like a sexy bit of mud and the bathroom like a George Seurat miscarriage. Salvation comes in the form of another dye, with a more orange base. Pushing the baby cancer cells, none so sensitive as my record collection, to grouchy adolescence, no doubt. see subject head as for what the finished product ended up like. It ain't rockin' to be shockin' as the good man Alfie Bambaata would say. Oh, does anyone have a copy of Tigermilk? And: you listees can get a copy of most Felt albums for 10 cents in your finer strip mall chain record stores in the New Hampshire/southern Virginia areas. I abandoned such muted musical pursuits, myself, after espying Brett Anderson's nipples, back when he was a mere bobbed-blonde steward serving randy gin and tonic's on Virgin Air's express flights from Heathrow to Stoke-on-Newington. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 04:23:23 1998 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 21:23:23 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Coming soon to an island near you Message-ID: hello sinisters. I'm planning a Springtime jaunt to the glorious UK and would like to know where to go (c'mon now be nice). My friends and I want to take in the Scottish countryside from motorbike, with a stay in London. I hope someone out there will be kind enough to give me a few helpful hints as to some less obvious points of interest and fine places to take in an evening after a hard day in the saddle. Beauty, humor and sincerity are all we are asking for. Feel free to email direct to e.brown at imaginemail.com. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Goodnight from NYC, emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 11 05:31:09 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:31:09 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: i wanna be adored Message-ID: oh, i feel the love. because... >4 votes: >Genevieve Wesley >Magnetic Megan Lehar woohoo!!! that means i have the most votes of any of the yanks, which is sort of like winning, only not. perhaps someday i will achieve fluffy star or pj miller territory, until then one can only try to be charming and seductive at all things. and contrary to popular opinion, i did *not* bribe anyone, though joss did try to lead me astry, but i stood steadfast. then pj miller said: >Magnetic Fields Megan henceforth shal be known as simply Magnetic >Megan to avoid any confusion. Unless anyone objects, of course. and when mr miller speaks, i listen. so should you all, do you know he's a basque terrorist? At 10:41 AM 11/10/98, Janine Papp wrote: >hey I actually did e-mail brad and tell him how cute megan was. >so there. >megan is adorable. i wholeheartedly agree with this. did you all know i work for janine? i wonder if this means she's going to have me cleaning the toilets on friday..... (hehe, i joke. she's lovely. and she is a bee, she's even striped) and finally about his name is alive... they're a marvellous band. basically it's warren defever writing these songs with a band and producing them in various odd ways that hover somewhere between interesting and amazing. each album sounds completely different, almost as if it was done by a totally different band each time around. i just saw them live for the first time on thursday and was totally awed. i just borrowed the latest album from a friend and it's brilliant. so, um, buy it. i interviewed warren in the last issue of my zine, and i think it turned out pretty well. he's an interesting guy if nothing else. ;) xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mew817 at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 05:42:48 1998 From: Mew817 at xxx.com (Mew817 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 00:42:48 EST Subject: Sinister: A bus story for you... Message-ID: <1f67d6ce.364923d8@aol.com> Hi everyone I'm trying to be more outgoing around here and thought I would post a response to an email that was sent a while ago. I can't remember who wrote it and I can't get into the archives...Anyway, someone wrote a story about an old man who had an accident while on a bus and wondered if anyone else had any tales of people falling on buses, so here goes... First of all, I have to say that sometimes I find humor in things that one should not laugh about, like people falling down, etc... Anyway, when I was living in London my flatmate and I were walking down Regent Street on a busy Saturday afternoon....We were looking in store windows, dodging all the shoppers and enjoying a nice walk. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, this lady comes flying off of a bus. I mean she was airborn for a second!! Not only did she go flying in the air, but so did all of her packages. She fell to the ground and looked back our way and quickly gathered up her packages and started walking along like nothing had happened! She did not look like she was hurt and a lady that saw this whole event stopped her and asked if she was OK and she must have been because she went right along without really skipping a beat. It was really weird and kinda funny too. You see my flatmate and I always seemed to witness weird stuff like that when we were walking around in London. It's stuff that you see on those TV shows where they play home videos. Stuff that makes you laugh and then make you feel bad for laughing... OK, so that's my bus story... Megan x PS- who was it that wrote about the old man falling on the bus? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 08:33:45 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 03:33:45 EST Subject: Sinister:Re A bus story for you... Message-ID: <20c6664b.36494be9@aol.com> In a message dated 11/10/98 9:44:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, Mew817 at aol.com writes: << Anyway, when I was living in London my flatmate and I were walking down Regent Street on a busy Saturday afternoon....We were looking in store windows, dodging all the shoppers and enjoying a nice walk. All of a sudden, out of nowhere, this lady comes flying off of a bus. I mean she was airborn for a second!! Not only did she go flying in the air, but so did all of her packages. She fell to the ground and looked back our way and quickly gathered up her packages and started walking along like nothing had happened! She did not look like she was hurt and a lady that saw this whole event stopped her and asked if she was OK and she must have been because she went right along without really skipping a beat. >> Oh I have thousands of storys About My Adventures On the Bus(Huh Amanda?) from everything to My friend getting a BJ to Us throwing pies in peoples faces anyways this story was a Few Days ago, It was raining alot and and This kid to everyone who was on thre road yelled HA HA YOU HAVE TO WALK IN THE RAIN(By The way that was What I Use to do in 5th Grade! that wee Bastard!) and Finally When it was at his Stop, As he walked Off The Steps He Slipt And Flew Like 9 Inches and was like 6 feet in the air and like flipped half way and Fell Smack In a Huge Poudle of WAter I mean it Was like a Fucking oasis and He was soo soaking wet..It was So Hilarious and As the Bus rolled by I said INSTANT KARMAS GONNA GET YOU(John lennon song) and the bus rolled off. Well thats it Kiddies -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hammers at xxx.de Wed Nov 11 09:10:38 1998 From: hammers at xxx.de (Stephan Hammer) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:10:38 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: black session and Tigermilk free - 2nd update Message-ID: Hi all, Time for another update. I got about 40 requests by now and although it gets hard for me to finance this everybody willing to make a donation will get a tape, just be patient. There were some people saying -I am really out of money but can't you send the tape anyway?- Sorry folks, this is really hard for me, too, so please check if you really have to go to the movies next weekend or if you don't rather donate the money and get a wonderful tape for it. I mean I really trust all you people to do what you say, if somebody does not donate, I won't know (but I trust anybody doing this will get horrible nightmares). Anyway, most of the messages where really nice and good to keep me going with this. I still could not find out the foreign accounts of PLAN, I guess those people are too overworked to answer. However, I will mail a complete list of addresses later so you might send checks or just call them yourself. More later Stephan -------------------------------------------------------------- There are people going hungry Far away They've got nothing on their plates And you're feeling your fat face With every single bite of cake (B&S: Century of Fakers) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkorchia at xxx.fr Tue Nov 10 08:33:40 1998 From: mkorchia at xxx.fr (Michael Korchia) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:33:40 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Felt References: <199811091755.RAA08685@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3647FA64.90642EA8@club-internet.fr> > From: "Bill Moss" > I have a cassette from Felt called The Pictorial Jackson Review. I've > had it for three years - there are two songs on it that are really > wonderful and show clearly their influence on Stuart - they are 'Ivory > Past' and 'Apple Boutique.' I recommend getting this record. Could > anyone recommend another Felt record? They tend to be pretty expensive > here in the States. Try the comps : absolute classic masterpieces II, or Bubblegum perfumes, which covers the poppiest years, on Creation Records. __^o^__ Michael Korchia mkorchia at club-internet.fr Watoo Watoo Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/watoo/ Mumbly Homepage : http://www.multimania.com/aurore/emumbly.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goodforyoo at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 09:18:25 1998 From: goodforyoo at xxx.com (milla |razorkandy|) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:18:25 GMT Subject: Sinister: ben ferney attn pleez Message-ID: <19981111091825.29298.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear List, muchos apologies for abusing publicalalalality like this, but BEN FERNEYH. I HAVE DONE YOUR TAPE and promptly lawst yer address. Mail me and we will be back on track, wotwot? x MILLA ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Wed Nov 11 09:51:29 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:51:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed (fwd) Message-ID: A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/report Size: 501 bytes Desc: not available URL: -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Denise Power Subject: Re: Sinister: Celebrities? Date: no date Size: 5842 URL: From keith at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 09:52:13 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:52:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: shoegazing backlash Message-ID: <01BE0D58.F57FF740.keith@qss.co.uk> anastasia wrote >why is it that british indie kids like >to take the piss >out of old shoegazers? i once had this discussion with someone and they claimed to be anti-shoegazing because it was a purely middle class phenomenon and that oasis as heroes of the working class rescued fair england from the pretenders with floppy fringes. I suspect it's more to do with the fact that the entire "Shoegazing" scene invented by the music press to follow up on the large sales figures they attained during Madchester, and that lumping together a load of frankly poor bands who sound like My Bloody Valentine and the Cocteau Twins and calling it the next big thing wasn't really going to wash with the kids(tm). That's not necessarily a reflection on the fact that there were certainly some good records made, but then, there are good records made in almost all genres. It has been a source of mystery to me however quite why "shoegazing" seems to have left a lasting impact on the USA. I suppose it just died here since the top bands (Ride, Slowdive, Chapterhouse etc.) were just not even vaguely comparable to the previous year's big thing, in the Stone Roses and the Happy Mondays. I would doubt that people would deliberately decide not to be into a genre of music cause of it being a "middle-class phenomenon" however (you can basically rule out the sixties for a start), and in any case shoegazing died a death several years prior to Oasis appearing here, there was a grim patch in between with people like the Frank and Walters on the cover of the NME. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Wed Nov 11 10:00:55 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:00:55 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: What was that mouse called in An American Tail In-Reply-To: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E222DAF53@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Message-ID: fifel !!! This is a fun game to play when you are going food shopping with friends. If they are holding the basket , trail along behind them putting little things, extra things into the basket such as spam, insecticide, books about beetles for kids, pate etc (you get the picture) It's a lorra lorra laughs when they could to the check out and look a bit baffled ! (beam !) Howver the game either gets tiresome or very much refined as time goes on. Now I do stuff like putting those huge bumper 20 packets of crisps into the basket and my friend pretends not to notice, the jokes on me then !!!! Really, it totally brightens up my otherwise dull life. By the way, that person who wrote saying "Anyone want tigermilk ? " well I can't remember who you are and also I thought I could get it from a friend of a friend but then I discovered that actually - they've left the country , opps so could someone, please anyone write to me saying "I'll give you a tape." Or just say anything. No-one ever acknowledges me on this list. I feel so inferior and like that kid who nobody liked to have to sit beside on school tours because they always cried or wet themselves. I never wet myself and only cry in public from laughing too much , so c'mon, be a sweetie. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 10:20:07 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:20:07 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: before the story ends Message-ID: So, before reviewing shoegazing and shoegazers become the last week topic, has anyone a slight idea about what Kitchens of Distinction did in the last five years or so? Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 10:38:14 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:38:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Patsy Palmer Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C3F@COR-EXG1> Firstly, without wanting to make any sort of sweeping statement, If one of you lovelies can vote for ME in list crushes, than this place is going to the dogs. I really don't understand, what's the world coming to ? Secondly, Ginger McBeacon wrote : ~ You can never have too many people with ginger hair. For this wanton bigotry, I blame Chris Evans and I blame Mick Hucknall but most of all, I blame Coronation Street's Liz MacDonald. She's a disgrace to the Sparkly Orange tribe the world over. God, I hate her. I hate her "But Jim!"s and "Shurt urp burth of you"s, but most of all I hate her workout video. Bianca, now she's a soap ginner that rocks. Why doesn't she do a workout video? I'd buy one. ~ OH LORD they're taking over. Whoever it was predicted the yellow rising, Nostrildave or whoever, he wasn't far wrong he was just a bit out on the colour. Ginger Beacon Palmer's Workout Video - Five easy steps to loosening the mouth muscles. Ginger Beacon McDonald wins with me every time....that is wins the contest for the worlds biggest eyes....how hard is her stare ? That 'ard. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Tue Nov 10 23:47:33 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 23:47:33 +-100 Subject: Sinister: Good festivals and other questions Message-ID: <01BE0D68.80B72A40@Abonado-195-53-37-142.cat.es> Martin wrote: "Saint Etienne, the Fanclub, Sonic Youth, Goldie, Bjork??? Lordy Jordi that does indeed sound like fine festival fare. Sure beats seeing Lawagon at midday in a field in Berkshire." Well I forgot to talk about Primal Scream, Placebo, Yo la Tengo, The Jesus & Mary Chain or Spiritualized at the same festival. This festival is being made for the last four years, and it is sit in Benicassim, a seaside town near Valencia. This year me and 24.999 more went there. But, oh, in february-march, when I first heard the name of some bands for this last edition, B&S WERE INCLUDED ! Can anyone tell me what happened then ? Another question related with B&S: The "Acid House" soundtrack has been released also in Europe (obviously, not including UK) ? Lately I have been hearing to Jack, The Fall, the first R.E.M albums, Nick Cave, Ani di Franco, and the wonderful spanish band LE MANS. If you come to Spain and want to buy a really lovely record, buy their latest "Aqui vivia yo" ("Here is where I used to live"). I know, they sing in spanish, but does it really matter ? it?s a shame, because they had disbanded recently. If Spain had a musical press like the british one ( I know that their tastes are quite debatable, but in Spain it would be impossible to see bands like Radiohead or Portishead reach at the highest positions in the charts) they would have had a bigger success. The musical scene here is basically shit. You can only find good bands at the independent resources, and they are quite excluded from the media. Finally: can anyone tell me why always that I write "I?ve been" appears the "?" symbol in the apostrophe ? should I change something in my computer ? Bye.Lordy Jordi. "See how words as old as sin fit me like a glove" (The Smiths "The hand that rocks the cradle"). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 09:57:45 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 02:57:45 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian are bigger than T-Rex! Message-ID: Hello folks, I popped into Southampton centre yesterday lunchtime, posted a tape, asked various people with no dress sense who looked about ten years younger than me to stop manipulating me illicitly, and picked up a certain film soundtrack. Woohoo! Slow Graffiti! So did you all watch "Belle and Sebastian - the unofficial biography" on channel four last night? I thought that Mandy from Eastenders made a very good Isobel. Oh, and big hugs and kisses to whoever voted for me. Perhaps I'd get more votes if I signed off with a more appealing name, I'll try to think of something by the time I get to the end of this message. The (now officially) gorgeous Fluffy insinuated that I may have voted for her as a result of roses changing hands in Sinister chat. As she well knows my vote was placed solely on the basis of her retracting a statement she had previously made pertaining to my smelling of wee. Gary, I'd love to join you in the car park, but I'm a lover not a fighter. And besides, nothing scares me more than the thought of a red mullet. Still no sign of a replacement Stuart Murdoch pop subbuteo figure, if anyone can help me out could they let me know, as I need one for the national pop subbuteo championships in just two weeks time. If anyone wants to swap I'll throw in an (almost) complete set of the Rezillos as well as my spare Arthur Lee. The Arthur Lee is one of the new models with digitised sound samples that "jams" with other figures immediately around it using technology a bit like in those Furby things. Kevan The Horny Toad *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From O.M.Hall at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 11:50:49 1998 From: O.M.Hall at xxx.uk (Oliver Hall) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:50:49 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Gotcha! In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981111013021.00908ac0@pophost.aber.ac.uk> Message-ID: > >>>>I GOTCHA!!! > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > \ | / > >>>>> >> > \\ \ | | / // > >>>>> >> > \\\ \\ // /// > >>>>> >> > \\\ ####### /// > >>>>> >> > \\## ##// > >>>>> >> > -- ## ## -- > >>>>> >> > -- ## squish!! ## -- > >>>>> >> > //## ##\\ > >>>>> >> > // ### ### \\ > >>>>> >> > /// ####### \\\ > >>>>> >> > /// // \\ \\\ > >>>>> >> > // / | | \ \\ > >>>>> >> > / | \ > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> >> > You have just been hit with a snow ball! > >>>>> >> > The first one of the winter. > >>>>> >> > It's the start of..... > >>>>> >> > Snow Ball Fight '98/'99!!!! > >>>>> >> > One rule to this game.... > >>>>> >> > You can't hit someone who has already hit you! > >>>>> >> > Now...go out there and hit as many people > >>>>> >> > as you can before they get you!! > > > >Everyone has a photographic memory, some just don't have film... luv.... ---------------------- Oliver Hall University of Exeter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Wed Nov 11 11:54:18 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:54:18 +-100 Subject: Sinister: Good festivals and other questions Message-ID: <01BE0D73.4206E1E0@Abonado-195-53-42-98.cat.es> Martin wrote: "Saint Etienne, the Fanclub, Sonic Youth, Goldie, Bjork??? Lordy Jordi that does indeed sound like fine festival fare. Sure beats seeing Lawagon at midday in a field in Berkshire." Well I forgot to talk about Primal Scream, Placebo, Yo la Tengo, The Jesus & Mary Chain, Spiritualized, The Unbelievable Truth or the Red House Painters at the same festival. This festival is being made for the last four years, and it is sit in Benicassim, a seaside town near Valencia. This year me and 24.999 more went there. But, oh, in february-march, when I first heard the name of some bands for this last edition, B&S WERE INCLUDED ! Can anyone tell me what happened then ? Another question related with B&S: The "Acid House" soundtrack has been released also in Europe (obviously, not including UK) ? Lately I have been hearing to Jack, The Fall, the first R.E.M albums, Nick Cave, Ani di Franco, and the wonderful spanish band LE MANS. If you come to Spain and want to buy a really lovely record, buy their latest "Aqui vivia yo" ("Here is where I used to live"). I know, they sing in spanish, but does it really matter ? it?s a shame, because they had disbanded recently. If Spain had a musical press like the british one ( I know that their tastes are quite debatable, but in Spain it would be impossible to see bands like Radiohead or Portishead reach at the highest positions in the charts) they would have had a bigger success. The musical scene here is basically shit. You can only find good bands at the independent resources, and they are quite excluded from the media. Bye.Lordy Jordi. "See how words as old as sin fit me like a glove" (The Smiths "The hand that rocks the cradle"). +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 11:53:51 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:53:51 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: cat power? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <6651531111111998/A04303/ADVAX1/11CB5AF53000*@MHS> Hi, Talking of Cat power, as some of you were, i heard (and saw) one of their videos on alternative nation last night on MTV (cant remember the name of it as it was late). The backing vocals sounded remarkably like the lovely Beth Orton, is this true? IS this false? True? False? True/false? Obviously as i cant remember the name of the song this may make it tricky for anyone to confirm this but i thought id try anyway as ive got fuck all else of any interest to say (anyone who says as usual has got a good staring-at coming to them). Cheers, Rich ps as to list crushes i didnt vote as you are all my list crushes, except who is a . +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 13:24:33 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:24:33 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Acid House + Modern Rock Song References: <01BE0D73.4206E1E0@Abonado-195-53-42-98.cat.es> Message-ID: <36499011.769797EB@jeepster.co.uk> hi everyone, jordi wrote: > Another question related with B&S: The "Acid House" soundtrack has been > released also in Europe (obviously, not including UK) ? as far as i know it hasn't been, but i'm on the phone at the moment trying to find out how people overseas can get hold of a copy ... oh poo, she's not there ... leave it with me and i'll post back later. I've also had a lot of people mail me asking if the "...Modern Rock Song" EP is going to be released in the States. I am not 100% sure that they're not at the moment, but i will mail back in the next day or two. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From l.r.beattie at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 13:36:04 1998 From: l.r.beattie at xxx.uk (Lennox Beattie) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:36:04 GMT Subject: No subject Message-ID: <55EC31C338B@dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk> I wondered if any listees could help me I was listening to the radio on Friday afternoon i heard a cracking song which was called High Rise Town by a group called Lantern who were from Embra kinda sounded like Dubstar or St. Etienne kind of a deal. It was on radio forth at about 3 p.m. on Friday afternoon, does anyone know anything about them. On a totally unrelated matter i was reading in the paper that Alan McGee is going to launch a new alternative music station in Central Scotland what do other folk think of such stations i personally much prefer my radio stations singa longy and inoffensive give charty nonsense anyday Lennox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 14:01:06 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:01:06 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: gossiping Message-ID: Hello listees ! As the gossip levels are falling down till unknown rates , not to talk the smut indexes, that's some question to improve this sad situation .Someone told me Chloe Sevigny had been dating last Summer Jarvis Cocker, is that true? I know there is no B&S content in this posting at all, but as there are some devoted fans of Mmlle. Sevigny out there, maybe they could help this nosy being I am Cheers Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 14:14:42 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:14:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981111141442.2712.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> right on === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "What makes most people feel happy leads us headlong into harm." --The Smiths _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From poetryplace2 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 14:20:58 1998 From: poetryplace2 at xxx.uk (poetryplace2) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:20:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: New hiphop cooking show: two phat ladies Message-ID: <199811111417.OAA03653@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Hello playmates Sorry to bore the majority of you, but anyone who is coming to salako on Thursday, some of us are meeting at the Poetry Cafe on Betterton Street, near Covent Garden tube from 6 onwards, from whence we will proceed to the Borderline for about 9ish, depending on whether anyone thinks electric sound of joy are any "cop". Personally I preferred them when they had the singer. Enough, no more, 'tis not so sweet as 'twas before Stevie Trousers xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 14:10:32 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 06:10:32 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: cordelia's dad Message-ID: <19981111141032.12041.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> cordelia's dad do rock, true, but don't let them hear you say the f-word when describing them. you'll be walking a mighty short plank. === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "What makes most people feel happy leads us headlong into harm." --The Smiths _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 13:20:57 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 09:20:57 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Vote '98 Message-ID: <36498F39.64A548FB@bigfoot.com> The ballot boxes are opened and the list crush votes counted. Riots erupt worldwide. Tag, Mick and David Kitchen only get ONE vote each?!! And Katrina gets NONE?!! She provides us with the information that keeps us so closely tied to the band we love, and how much sugar does she get in return? Not even a teaspoon, let alone the 4 cups she deserves. The world is upside down and being shaken for change. Truth is, I didn't vote. Because I didn't think it would be in the rules to vote for about 20 people, as well as a few other spoil-sport reasons. But when the next vote swings around, I'm voting early and I'm voting often. Mark wrote: > On first listening, it seems like Slow Graffiti is going to be > another skyscraper of R!O!C!K!, > Someone recently mentioned how they don't like the Phil Spector-type stuff that B&S occasionally do, and I'd just like to make a public declaration of lust for that wall of sound, rave-up, Steve Cropper guitar-ed stuff that they do. And Mark's right, although "skyscraper" may be understating it a bit. Slow Graffiti is easily one of my favorite B&S songs, and I can't wait to have a full, good quality version of it that doesn't have Steve Larmararaqraq talking over the tail end. Thanks to that generous liquid audio portion, I now know the first two minutes by heart. > I really, > really adore this band, and all who sail in her. > You'd think that, on a list fully populated by Belle and Sebastian fans, that we wouldn't feel the need to G!U!S!H! like this, but I love it when people do. This one tiny little comment of Mark's makes me want to quit my job and run home and continue on my quest to find a way to listen to every Belle and Sebastian song at once. I may explode, but that's a chance I'm willing to take at this point. A little note to "Nicky Wire" and other celebrities on the list: come up with an alias, because we won't believe you if you write in. That's what I did. I'm actually Wink Martindale, but you don't see *me* going on about it. ~"Reid" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Nov 11 14:45:15 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:45:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fuckloads of Cuckolds Message-ID: <01be0d81$e4fd4b60$LocalHost@itjfvkli> The great shoegazing debate lurches on......the very music press that invented shoegazing also invented the factoid that they were all posh bastards. It worked with me, I hated them. But I wouldn't include the Vals or the Cocks in the same boat, they were about for yonks before all the others, and had a few ideas of their own. The Boos don't really fit either. Gary, was your mullet ginger? I am thrilled to learn that 0.87454% of the list have got a crush on me. I didn't have to time to get my vote in, but it would have gone to Trousers for inventing such fiendish competitions. I have been wracking (is that right) my brain, and I think I've got the answer. Incidentally, Trousers wrote: A cro-magnon man, perhaps*. Trousers, have you been hanging around at my local needlework and handicraft shop? Magnetic Megan obviously has: and when mr miller speaks, i listen. so should you all, do you know he's a basque terrorist? No I'm bloody not! Anyway, Magnetic Megan, I've seen those photos of you "pleasuring" Augusto Pinochet while Mrs Thatcher looks on in ecstasy, her teacup rattling in its saucer! I think you're just trying to reduce my crush votes so you can win next time. Your timing is extraordinary, by the way. This morning I received a tape of the B&S London extravaganza from a dodgy bootlegger. I haven't listened to all of it yet, but I must say you were all very rowdy indeed, anyone would think it was a Slade gig. I have heard the chap shouting "Dance, you lame fuckers!" and everyone booing him, and I think I've heard "Loneliness..." for the first time. Deeply groovy, kinda Muscle Shoals feel to it. I'm just saying that to sound clever and get more votes next time. Thank you, evil bootlegger. I'm particularly looking forward to those remixes of "Remember You're a Womble" you stuck on the end. Is that flapping sound Ooooon fanning Paul? Someone's got a nasty cough too. I haven't had chance to look at it yet, so it might be crap, but here's a website advertised by a knob-lengthening company: http://www.biomedical-estetica.com and yes, I did get Duke's e-mail address wrong. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 15:26:02 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:26:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: smut!!! Message-ID: OK, I have noticed a direct correlation between those with the most crush votes and 1.) the number of postings and 2.) the amount of smut talked about. Since my posts have not been smutty - well, I think I once implied some smut but it was so subtle that no one noticed - here is some BEE SMUT for you! The queen bee mates in the air with any drone she encounters. (what a slut!) However, if you are a drone, there is a price to be paid. After you mate with the queen bee you lose your penis and you die. ok, any other questions about bees, just ask... sadly enough, I probably know the answer. Queen Bee Janine p.s. is it wicked to finally admit that I like IYFS way more than TBWTAS? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 14:36:46 1998 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 07:36:46 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Coming soon to an island near you Message-ID: Poor Robert You really do sound a tad bitter about the whole thing. I hope your schooling is worth it, at least. Let's see what my travel guide says about Kent and surrounding area� "It's a commonly held view that the northern part of Kent is a scenic and cultural wasteland, a prejudice that stems partly from the fact that most visitors only glimpse the areas they race to and from the Channel ports." Maybe we could add here, "However, according to one Robert Fisk, the nightlife is also incredibly dull to the point of suicidal melancholy. With all of its Judeo-Christian monuments, decrepit English castles and morbid Charles Dickens paraphernalia, Kent ranks solidly among the gloomiest of the western world." Not for nothing Robert, but lighten up. Can anyone out there in Sinister-land help poor Robert find a place to go in the loveless land of Kent? :) emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Wed Nov 11 16:08:46 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (keith m) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:08:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: grim patches Message-ID: <3649B68E.6FC0C257@bignet.net> keith w wrote: >there was a grim patch in between >with people like >the Frank and Walters on the cover of the NME awww the frank and walters are charming! the grand parade is a really lovely record and their early songs in which they sung so exuberantly about bus drivers and bicycles were great fun:) but than i guess it is true that shoegazing was terminal prior to the gallaghers it being killed by suede rather than oasis. i think the class thing is real though because look at the backlash against blur in response to their background, the UK should be like we yanks and just pretend there are not any classes, we're all middle class:P. keith mcl +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 16:11:27 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:11:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: cordelia's dad References: <19981111141032.12041.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: <3649B719.7331@javanet.com> thats not true at all they know they're folk music i dont know where you get that idea from folk doesnt have to be a dirty word whatever though ----ev np-Angry Johnny And the Killbillies-Whats so Funny? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Wed Nov 11 16:17:19 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (keith m) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:17:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: kitchens of distinction Message-ID: <3649B88F.1D7828EA@bignet.net> >So, before reviewing shoegazing and shoegazers become the >last week topic, >has anyone a slight idea about what Kitchens of >Distinction did in the >last five years or so? patrick the singer made and released a dreadful solo record under the name of Fruit, it included the other two guys on the lp in minor roles. dan the drummer has a new band called Epstein, i have no idea what they sound like. a friend of mine who is obsessed with kod, she has a naked picture of patrick above her mantlepiece, says patrick and julian are involved in some new project with an alanis morrissette-type singer and that seems rather frightening. keith +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Iangstl at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 16:18:03 1998 From: Iangstl at xxx.com (Iangstl at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:18:03 EST Subject: Sinister: A sordid game Message-ID: <5828f5e6.3649b8bb@aol.com> hiya denisep wrote >>This is a fun game to play when you are going food shopping with friends. If they are holding the basket, trail along behind them putting little things, extra things into the basket such as spam, insecticide, books about beetles for kids, pate etc. (you get the picture) It's a lorra lorra laughs when they could to the check out and look a bit baffled !<< I risk the chance of becoming the list nasty for it, but I will admit to playing this game in a slightly more wicked fashion. I always thought that the point was to do this to people you didnt know. Usually I picked some mother being nasty to her children by scolding them for wanting the frostedsugarpops instead of the wheatgraingranolanutfibreflush cereal. Sometimes I chose the high skirted woman balancing on her silly heels while stretching to reach some organically trendy mushrooms and giving the stock boy his much deserved show. She's an easy target as well since she is usually looking at her reflection in the security mirrors and not in her cart as I slipped a bag of cat chow (meow) or even *no-brand* gasp!!! potato buds into her cart. Ah well, no b&s content other than if I am going to burn for my wickedness, at least I will do so with the sweet sounds of wicked not to care in my head as I ease my feet into the fire. mwah, dawn (who was called dawnie wawnie as a child) np.... miles' agartha (a mighty fine shag album indeed, both discs of it) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Wed Nov 11 16:31:31 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:31:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: a little smut never hurt anyone Message-ID: while looking up some info for my theories of culture class i came accross this, surprisingly..thought some of you might get a kick out of it since smut seems to be the in thing as of late.. roberta ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To is a Preposition, Come is a Verb (Lenny Bruce, accompanying himself on drums): To is a preposition, come is a verb. To is a preposition, come is a verb. To is a preposition, come is a verb, the verb intransitive. To come. To come. I've heard these two words my whole adult life, and as a child when I thought I was sleeping. To come. To come. It's been like a big drum solo: Did ja come? Didja come good? Didja come good didja come good didja come good? Recitatif: I come better with you sweetheart than with anyone in the whole goddamn world. I really came so good. I really came so good 'cause I love you. Really came so good. I come better with you sweetheart, than anyone in the whole world, I really came so good. So good. BUT. Don't come in me. Don't come in me. Don't come imme, mimme mimme don't come imme mimme mimme don't come in me. I CAN'T COME. Cause you don't love me, that's why you can't come. I love you I just can't come, that's my hangup. I can't come when I'm loaded, all right? Cause you don't love me. Just what the hell is the matter with you? What has that got to do with loving you? I just can't come, that's all. Now if anyone in this room or the world finds those two words decadent, obscene, immoral, amoral, asexual, the words "to come" really make you feel uncomfortable, if you think I'm rank for saying it to you, and you the beholder gets rank for listening to it, you probably can't come.2 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kschaffe at xxx.edu Wed Nov 11 16:24:14 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 10:24:14 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: What was that mouse called in An American Tail In-Reply-To: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E222DAF53@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Message-ID: > But I did get to spend quality time with the delightful Kristen S, who was everything I could have wanted from my very first list crush, If I detail "quality time," does it count as smut?? >and dead good looking into the bargain, Mark and I made a bargain ahead of time. Regardless of what we looked like, we'd tell the list that the other was gorgeous. Thus, he ignored my harelip, and I ignored his eyepatch. Of course, I'm joking. Mark is an adorable young man with endearing, distinctly English, qualities that define his character. We had such fun drinking cosmopolitans after the show! I think the mouse's name was Fievel. Or Feivel. Probably the latter. Oh--- Hurley dreams that he steals a horse. Then Judy dreams of horses. Obviously, the horse represents Judy's innocence. (Bear in mind that we're dealing with a girl who "did it with a boy when she was young.") Lecherous Hurley dreams of robbing Judy of her puritanical horse, while Judy, later (we know it's later because this song comes on IFYS, which, chronologically, of course, comes after Tigermilk), dreams of recollecting herself, redifining her purity in regaining her purity. Of course, she can only dream of doing so, since the physical act has already taken place. On that same vein, Hurley is probably impotent. This is why he can only dream and have dreams of stealing Judy's sexual horse. I'm making this up as I go along. Does it sound good? Bises, Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From christian at xxx.net Wed Nov 11 16:50:19 1998 From: christian at xxx.net (Christian Scanniello) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 11:50:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: such a good-looking batch of kids. Message-ID: <3649C046.F99E3647@worldweb.net> apologies if this has been posted already but....the video for "is it wicked not to care?" can be viewed by one and all by visiting the sonic streamland website (www.streamland.com/site/index.html). word is that the video was banned from mtv for excessive swordplay....so this may the only chance for some of you to see it. it's nifty, in an album-cover-come-to-life sort of way. queen bee janine, i don't think it's wicked to finally admit to liking IYFS more than TWATTYBUS. i would agree with you, actually. then again, i'm positively wicked. especially, considering i admit to liking tigermilk even better than sinister. from the "not that question again" file, i'm curious if anyone has any idea why b&s appearance on the PBS program "Sessions at W.54" was never aired. was the band displeased with the results or was the network simply fearful of inspiring a beatles on ed-sullivan-esque phenomenon? cheerio, christian, who is quite sure that it his fondness for duran duran, not his relative newcomer status, that is to blame for his lack of crush votes. ;-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 17:00:56 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:00:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Voting Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C42@COR-EXG1> Reid wrote : ~ The ballot boxes are opened and the list crush votes counted. Riots erupt worldwide. Tag, Mick and David Kitchen only get ONE vote each?!! And Katrina gets NONE?!! She provides us with the information that keeps us so closely tied to the band we love, and how much sugar does she get in return? Not even a teaspoon, let alone the 4 cups she deserves. The world is upside down and being shaken for change. ~ I heard on the crush grapevine that Katrina was in the lead on 9 votes some while back but that she lost 5 votes for each cancelled concert announcement during the tour. Kevan "Warty Frog" Cooke Wrote : ~ Still no sign of a replacement Stuart Murdoch pop subbuteo figure, if anyone can help me out could they let me know, as I need one for the national pop subbuteo championships in just two weeks time. ~ You sad sad man. Just use your old Jason Donovan figure and file him down a bit with one of your mothers emery boards. A very precise and dangerous operation, but cheaper than lipposuction. Adrian.x.x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Wed Nov 11 17:07:47 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:07:47 +-100 Subject: Sinister: nothing special Message-ID: <01BE0D9D.DF73FE20@Abonado-195-53-34-234.cat.es> Sorry, because recently some of my messages had been posted twice. Sometimes I think that my computer has gone crazy. I do not know if you remember that I wanted to create a spanish B&S fanzine. The first issue is going to be published according to the release of the "Modern rock song" EP. Meanwhile, I am still waiting for some collaborations. I am now working on translating some of the band?s lyrics. I am pleased because Jack + Hefner will be playing Barcelona the December 7th. It can be interesting to know for Mr. Peter Miller that they will also be playing in San Sebastian (good name for a lovely city). Lordy Jordi. "See how words as old as sin fit me like a glow" (The Smiths) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 17:14:17 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 12:14:17 EST Subject: Sinister: grim patches Message-ID: hiya bunnies, ooh, the shoegazing debate is turning into a class debate! or it could do, if anyone decides to take it any further than it's already come. i'd like to say--that is, upholding that british indie kids panning shoegazing and everyone in general aside from americans panning shoegazing has something to do with class issues (as keith m. seems willing to imply, which i'm not sure i agree with)--that this debate is silly. mainly because any issue of class and music being linked most of the time stems from coyly-devised ***MEDIA CREATION***. perhaps i didn't read the nme closely enough in the early 90s, so i can't really comment on the shoegazing side of this argument, but i'd think i can make a comparison...i'm well aware of the whole oasis/blur thing and i think most of you will agree with me that involving class in that whole she-bang was merely a way to get the kids (tm) to make a choice between the two based on *i-don't-know-what...politics? virtue? accent?* not necessarily music, just to sell more records. that's my main point...there are lots of tiny details i can cite here regarding the so-called 'battle of britain' regarding cd formats and prices and whatnot, but why bore you. this *has* however been researched and written up. oh dear...WHAT has the belle and sebastian list come to? i'm going to shut my sociological mouth *now*. always-clever keith w. mused out loud about why we americans still romanticize shoegazing. er, perhaps lorraine can answer this better than i? maybe it has something to do with our *classless* society, eh? (don't answer that.) well, anyhow. i have a good bus story (i should, i ride buses often enough). i was riding to work last wednesday morning very early and of course i fell asleep. this is ritual for me, as i rise pretty darn early and go to sleep pretty darn late, i need all the rest i can get. so i'm resting my head against the window ledge thingie, deeply asleep, and the bus jerked forward...causing the bones around my left eye to crash harshly against said ledge thingie. as i was so deeply asleep i thought i was only dreaming about the pain. i did not wake up...until it happened *again*. this time i fully awakened and noticed everyone around staring at me, apparently at the massive lump now bulging from above my eye. i dashed to work to check a mirror and sure enough, black eye present. i look like i've been mugged, it's *so* attractive. a week later, it's toned down a bit...it's this lovely greeny-purply color, looks just like a nice eyeshadow job. enough from me, bye now. cheers, stasia ------------- Original Text >From "keith m" , on 11/11/98 11:53 AM: keith w wrote: >there was a grim patch in between >with people like >the Frank and Walters on the cover of the NME awww the frank and walters are charming! the grand parade is a really lovely record and their early songs in which they sung so exuberantly about bus drivers and bicycles were great fun:) but than i guess it is true that shoegazing was terminal prior to the gallaghers it being killed by suede rather than oasis. i think the class thing is real though because look at the backlash against blur in response to their background, the UK should be like we yanks and just pretend there are not any classes, we're all middle class:P. keith mcl +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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Wade >University of Exeter >--- End Forwarded Message --- > > >---------------------- >sophie louise holly stanford-tuck >University of Exeter >--- End Forwarded Message --- > > >---------------------- >Georgie Sowerbutts >University of Exeter > ______________________________________________________ --- End Forwarded Message --- ---------------------- Robert Fisk rwjf1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hgfriel at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 18:18:32 1998 From: hgfriel at xxx.uk (Hugh Friel) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:18:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Felt nowt Message-ID: <00b601be0d9f$ca87a140$2833883e@default> Hello Bill asked quote...I have a cassette from Felt called The Pictorial Jackson Review. I've had it for three years - there are two songs on it that are really wonderful and show clearly their influence on Stuart - they are 'Ivory Past' and 'Apple Boutique.' I recommend getting this record. Could anyone recommend another Felt record? They tend to be pretty expensive here in the States...unquote. I've got a Felt CD which combines the albums 'The Strange Idol's Pattern and Other Short Stories' and 'Ignite the Seven Cannons', and, although the music is great, the best thing is that the sleeve opens to reveal a completely blank page, but for a single line of barely visible text, and the text reads "We might as well all stay in our rooms until we die." But the most beautiful Felt album I've heard is endearingly titled 'Forever Breathes The Lonely Word'. Have you people already discussed the instrumental part of Mayfly? anyway... Hugh +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 20:19:04 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 20:19:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: More tales from the bus-stop, plus some other random th ings. Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E39B@NCMSERVER> One of nearly a thousand people who don't have even a slight crush on me wrote... OK, so that's my bus story... Megan x PS- who was it that wrote about the old man falling on the bus? And I confess that it was me. Buses are amusing places if you only know where to look. Here's another little tale... I was waiting for my bus at Holloway Road tube - if you don't know London, it's like a high-society version of South Kensington - having a very stupid jokey conversation with my friend about how he was going to infiltrate the IT department at work and bring the systems down etc, etc. Eventually the bus arrived and I got on. As I was embarking, my friend said (jokingly) "Aha! But how do you know there isn't a bomb on the bus?". Now I know it's wrong to joke about bombs, and I apologise on behalf of my friend, but we were very drunk. A strange man then accosted my friend (who strangely is also called Neil, which is at best weird, and at worst laughable) and asked him if there was a bomb on board. Neil denied all knowledge of bombs and turned to walk home, whereupon the little madman started pursuing him. I watched out the back of the bus as Neil was followed to the crossing in full argument with his new-found stalker. I went home had a kebab and passed out. Neil on the other hand was followed insistently by this guy, arguing all the way, having to bluff and double bluff about whether he was crossing the road or not, to the point that he had to walk past his house, round the block, back up the road, before - about three miles later - finally deciding he was safe to go into his own home. The moral of the story is, because in the absence of Dawson's Creek someone has to get righteous, don't live near Holloway Road. Never. Ever. Fin. And another thing... keith w wrote: >there was a grim patch in between >with people like >the Frank and Walters on the cover of the NME and keith m replied... awww the frank and walters are charming! the grand parade is a really lovely record and their early songs in which they sung so exuberantly about bus drivers and bicycles were great fun:) and I say...so at least two people now own a copy of grand parade - and it's a very underrated album. And yes they were just silly boys, but they knew how to spin a song. I actually knew someone called Andy James, which made one of the songs of the first album vaguely surreal in a way even F&W couldn't have predicted. and lots of people said how great Moose are, which means that at least four people own copies of "Live a Little, Love a lot" - including me - and I have to confess that before I heard the song, I thought that "Last Balloon to Nice" would be a charming little song about floating off to a pleasant French town. Oasis, shmoasis I say. I was very excited when I heard Supersonic, it features on one old radio tape about three or four times, and I remember asking a friend to buy the single for me when he went into town. "Oasis" I said, "Who?" quoth he. And then suddenly everyone started buying oasis, and roll with it was crap and I got bored and haven't listened to any of the mad up for it genius tune-stealing meat and potato drumming rifferama quartet's stuff since then. That aside, there wasn't much going on musically then, although I do faintly recall borrowing Pavement's Crooked Rain at one point and quite enjoying it, and it was then that I discovered Grant Lee Buffalo, so I have to say that the post sandal-staring era wasn't all bad. Menswear, however, will always be a mistake. Smut-free Neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Nov 11 19:52:05 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:52:05 +0000 Subject: Sinister: jeepster-news: Belle & Sebastian - Modern Rock Song + Acid House Message-ID: <3649EAE5.BCBD174A@jeepster.co.uk> [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. Some ] [ characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Hi everyone, OK, i finally have news on the release of the above named items outside the UK. THIS IS JUST A MODERN ROCK SONG As i told you previously, the "This Is Just A Modern Rock Song" EP will be available through Continental Europe on CD ONLY from Delabel/Virgin France. Matador will be purchasing some UK copies of both the CD and 12" to sell-in to their North American indie stores for the December 7th release date, so places like Other Music in NY will have stock. As far as your HMV's etc. go, i'm not exactly sure. And that's it. As i mentioned before, the jeepster shop is taking preorders for both the CD and 12" NOW. We will be posting these out (hopefully) on Friday 4th December, so UK people will receive on or just after the December 7th release date. The cost is £3 for the CD and 12" + postage&packaging + VAT. So, go! Check out the Jeepster website now! http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ We should have sound samples of all the tracks up on the site by Monday next week (16/11). what a lovely Christmas present that'll make! Ooh, don't forget, we stop taking preorders for the single AND the jeepster shop will close on Thursday 3rd for a Christmas break and revamp, so if you want to send merchandise or CD's as pressies, get movin' .. you heard me! THE ACID HOUSE I spoke to the soundtracks department at EMI this afternoon and it looks as though when the film is licensed in a particular territory, the EMI company will pick up the rights to release the album. So, as the first territory to release The Acid House after the UK is Germany in late summer 1999, it seems that it will be UK-only for a while. My guess is to check the UK online music stores (ie http://www.roughtrade.com or http://www.imvs.co.uk) and try to mail order from there. one more thing, in association with SonicNet website we also now have online the Belle & Sebastian video for "Is It Wicked Not To Care". Just click on the Jeepster URL above and let your mouse take you there ... :) Alrighty, that's it for today, you're free to go play now ... Cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk ----------------------------------------------------------------------- .this message came from the jeepster records news list . .visit our site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk for more info . . . .to unsubscribe yourself from this list send a message to . .majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'unsubscribe news' in the body. .of the message . . . .any problems? then simply send a mailto:owner-news at jeepster.co.uk . ----------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From faw1 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 11 20:33:48 1998 From: faw1 at xxx.edu (Francisco Alberto Wong) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:33:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: re: In an interstellar burst... Message-ID: Or is that a faux pas? But I have been one of the many naughty people "booted" off the sinister list, but I have resubscribed. And now my inbox is flooded with murmurs of "list crushes" where does one vote? Where does one view the results? I want to be an informed and empowered member of the list and i am absolutely engorged with the thought that Just a Modern Rock Song is finally coming out. Wasn't there to be two EPs before the end of the year? And could some kind listee forward Mark UK's NYC travelogue (Rainee? Stasi?) uhm. fran +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Wed Nov 11 20:37:13 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:37:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: like a red-headed stepchild Message-ID: <3649F579.43E8@earthlink.net> well, glory be! a year ago i couldn't get one single person to rejoice in the beauty of moose. it must be all you new types talking about them. i once had a moose website but webpages are boring to make and to upkeep, so i didn't. and i once startted thinking about making a moose mailing list, but i don't know how, so i stopped thinking. to the guy that wants to take me outside and fight: c'mon, but i fight dirty....real dirty. pulling hair, smashing bottles, kissing you full on the lips when you least expect it, pinching your ass, grabbing your cockles, tonguing your ear, licking your choad....you don't wanna mess with me, pal. i'll fuck you up. personally, i think the whole shoegazey thing was totally a class thing, designed to keep the poor man poor and the rich man richer. i mean, what better way to keep a stronghold on a nation's class system than by the use of loud distorted guitars and angelic singing? so duke ain't around anymore, huh? i hated that cocky shithead anyway. glad to see he's fucked off and let us be. always going on about his jasmine minks and felt this and felt that. good riddance! (you sure he ain't around, right?) whew! i've heard le mans. they are lovely indeed. i've decided on a new career move......i'm gonna get into television, and go to work at UNIVISION, the spanish channel. i'm gonna be a producer so i can utilize the ol' casting couch technique. have you ever watched that channel? i have no idea what the hell they're talking about, but 99 percent of the women are H!O!T! s.w.a.k. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com> Wed Nov 11 21:14:24 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com> (kellym at xxx.com>) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:14:24 -0800 Subject: Sinister: dirty bus #7 Message-ID: <199811112117.NAA17956@macbeth.ienet.com> I have a whole slew of bus stories. One involved some tragic girl who wouldn't leave me alone until I gave her my phone number. Not being too smart or clever, I finally broke down and gave it to her. She then proceded to call me for the next six months telling me about her cat and her never ending quest to find a job that would pay her eight dollars and hour. I wasn't mean or anything about it, it was just a little annoying and somewhat bizarre. You gotta be weary about bus girls... you never know if they're going to be nice or psychotic. The buses on the west side of Los Angeles are a bit frightning. There's the red buses, MTA, which are pretty damn scary and cost $1.35 (?) and then there are the blue buses, aptly named 'The Big Blue Bus', which are somewhat nicer and only cost 50 cents, and laslty there are the green buses, Culver City's, are really scary and a ride goes for 65 cents or so. Why am I giving people the lowdown on buses? I do not know. The most humorous thing about LA buses is that they have these adverts inside that start out "ATTENTION HEROIN AND METH ADDICTS..." Kind of gives you an idea as to who the target passanger is... scary. I've sat by many a person on the bus who has an odd itch in their nose that they can't seem to get rid of. hmm... I had to start riding the bus when i crashed my car this past winter. Needless to say I had a nice little B+S mixed tape of songs that mention the word 'bus' to keep me occupied. Ok, I'm boring myself, so I will be quiet. OH! And let me cast a belated vote for one Miss Beth Arzy on the whole list crush thing. CRUSH indeed. : ) -Kelly Ryan McGuire +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Julie_Smith at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 21:29:37 1998 From: Julie_Smith at xxx.com (Julie_Smith at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 13:29:37 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: A San Francisco Bus Story Message-ID: <01J41YCGNGY88X09BY@NOTELT.MED.IACNET.COM> Hello children. I have a bus story for you. Anyone who's lived in San Francisco for a period of time has experienced how horrible our mass transit (called MUNI) is. After commuting to work for three years, I have many many stories, some funny and some frustrating. But I'll just tell you an old favorite. One night I was waiting for a bus which is supposed to come every 15 minutes, but typically takes twice as long. On this particular night, I (and about ten other people) waited 45 minutes before the bus finally pulled up. During our wait, we had formed what is called a "MUNI mob"-- a group of strangers that become bonded in collective anger at how poorly the bus system is run. We shared bus horror stories and fantasies about blowing up MUNI's central office and were basically having a grand old time bashing the system. By the time we got on the tardy bus, we were all friends and amused ourselves by talking loudly about how things would have to change, how inconvenienced we all were etc. About fifteen minutes into the journey there was a loud crackle and a shower of sparks and the bus grounded to a halt. My MUNI mob friends and I stared at each other in disbelief, realizing that our trip was once again going to be delayed. But then, one of our number caught sight of another connecting bus pulling up across the street. "Let's go!" he shouted. We all ran off our bus and across the street towards the new bus which we now saw was so packed that people were scrunched together in the aisles. As we got closer, we realized that the driver was singing into his microphone, in kind of a bluesy way. He sang, " Get on the bus...get on the bus....get on the bus." And then he'd interchange it with, "You don't need money, you don't need money, you don't need money." Once my MUNI mob and I had piled on to the bus which was probably illegally crowded at this point, the bus driver continued his performance. As the bus lurched along and we tried to stay on our feet and out of other people's laps he sang, "This is a San Francisco bus, this is a friendly bus, this is a musical bus, this is a BUS I tell you, this is a LOVE bus," at which point someone at the back yells, "If you pack anymore **&%&^& people in here it really WILL be a love bus." The bus driver pauses and then sings, "There's no need to be dirty, there's no need to be dirty. . . it's a friendly bus . . . . ." The End. Julie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 21:37:33 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 16:37:33 EST Subject: Sinister: dirty bus #7 Message-ID: hiya, a bus-related, perhaps smut-related question...actually more of a lunchtime poll-kind-of-question: when you spot an attractive bunny on the bus (or on the train or any other kind of public transportation, by the way) and you're feeling personally confident that day cos you're wearing your study at stow t-shirt or some other similarly spiffy apparrel, do you make eye contact? ask a stupid question to make conversation? (i did this once...i hid my watch in my bookbag just so i could ask the time of the adorable blond boy who rode my bus every morning. it was 7.14 am, in case you were wondering.) ask for a phone number? or just dream of future bus scenarios involving the two of you while you shyly gaze out the window at the passing clouds whirring by--ALONE? what does one do? i ask cos i'm forever checking out people's haircuts and cool shoes during my daily public transit jaunts, but i'm just too feeble to do anything more than stare. enough posting from me i'm going now bye! (should be the new slogan for the sinister list, fluffy.) cheers, stasia ------------- Original Text >From "kellym at raygun.com" , on 11/11/98 4:18 PM: I have a whole slew of bus stories. One involved some tragic girl who wouldn't leave me alone until I gave her my phone number. Not being too smart or clever, I finally broke down and gave it to her. She then proceded to call me for the next six months telling me about her cat and her never ending quest to find a job that would pay her eight dollars and hour. I wasn't mean or anything about it, it was just a little annoying and somewhat bizarre. You gotta be weary about bus girls... you never know if they're going to be nice or psychotic. The buses on the west side of Los Angeles are a bit frightning. There's the red buses, MTA, which are pretty damn scary and cost $1.35 (?) and then there are the blue buses, aptly named 'The Big Blue Bus', which are somewhat nicer and only cost 50 cents, and laslty there are the green buses, Culver City's, are really scary and a ride goes for 65 cents or so. Why am I giving people the lowdown on buses? I do not know. The most humorous thing about LA buses is that they have these adverts inside that start out "ATTENTION HEROIN AND METH ADDICTS..." Kind of gives you an idea as to who the target passanger is... scary. I've sat by many a person on the bus who has an odd itch in their nose that they can't seem to get rid of. hmm... I had to start riding the bus when i crashed my car this past winter. Needless to say I had a nice little B+S mixed tape of songs that mention the word 'bus' to keep me occupied. Ok, I'm boring myself, so I will be quiet. OH! And let me cast a belated vote for one Miss Beth Arzy on the whole list crush thing. CRUSH indeed. : ) -Kelly Ryan McGuire +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Delaware9 at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 22:04:19 1998 From: Delaware9 at xxx.com (Delaware9 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:04:19 EST Subject: Sinister: Belle and Sebastian Mad Libs! Message-ID: Hello! My friend Lesley Jo filled you all in last week on our exploits in Washington DC, but I thought that you might also be interested in reading the silly Mad Libs we composed on our trip. The first one was written right after we got to DC, when we were sitting in a Greyhound station at 4 in the morning with nothing to do. It is pretty funny cos while it was a teenybopper fantasy of meeting B&S, and we laughed abt how sad we were, it actually came true later on...Well the meeting part at least :) And the second one was written in the back of the Black Cat during soundcheck while we were trying to act kool abt the whole situation. You will be happy to know that these tales provide 5% of the Recommended Daily Allowance of Smut. Dirty Dreams #1 and #2? Not to mention that, as Lesley pointed out, the second one was composed with Stu M's (nonexistent) arse about a foot away. So, um, keeping that in mind... #1 The golden Stu M was chilling with his band in DC when he decided that he should do some sightseeing. He didnt want to see that babealicious Washington Monument or the girly White House. He didnt want to eat at another Nipple Cave. He hopped on a city bus at Hockey Hair and Isobel Streets and decided to be on the lookout for a thrift store so he could buy more rabid jumpers and some new flares. He was having fun looking out the windows at all the dipsticks, corpses, and bowheads of this crazy city, uninterrupted, until he heard 2 girls behind him singing loudly and gloriously. He thought he could ignore them, but after hearing the lardy phrase "Boom Boom Room" 57 times, he was verklempt and intrigued. One of them was wearing a T-shirt that said, "The Sexually Frustrated Speedos Rock My Socks!" and a 6hnnecklace that said "I <3 Isobel." The other had sea green- and ecru-striped pants and a necklace that said "I <3 Stu M." "Maybe I have got a chance with these skirts," he thought. He was nervous about talking to new people, though, and the first thing that came out of his mouth was, "Hi, I'm Stuart. Would you like to go with me to take pictures of throwup and dead gophers?" He was a little surprised when they both fervently agreed. He then said, "Well, do you mind if I brought a friend along on our wacky hijinx? She's been ill and could use some buxom fun." The girls agreed to that too and after picking up Stu's wee bud Isobel, the four had a blast, giving themselves up to the allure of bustiers and crotchless panties in Washington, DC. #2 One gorgeous evening, Jess was sloppily looking forward to her growling plans. She died in front of her full-length colostomy bag and was so pleased with the results that she immediately called up her crock-pot, Stu, to ask him out for a quick fingernail. No sooner had they vomited the aardvark out of the driveway, than a mighty crouton began to snort over the greasy land. It threw them morbidly off the squirrel and into a pile of toothbrushes, where they gushed in agony. "Oh Honey Pie, I swear that if you quack hard enough, I will lubricate you forever!" cried the enthusiastic Jess. Jokingly, the skanky Angel of Anger appeared before the belated couple. "Shout not, my pretty taxicabs," she said as she yawned their uteruses with great fondness. "I have arranged for you to be peed-on in the set of Felicity this hour. Tina Turner is the resident podiatrist in charge, and their Morrisseyesque program of festering, siphoning, and chickpeas is guaranteed to cure." Jess and her mincer thought about this for quite a while before coughing at the angel's nostril, "Upchuck! Cheeky concubine," and shoved Stu over a steep flamingo to the pathetic sound of his screams. Dragging her bleeding, grooving limbs behind her, she grabbed the Angel of Animosity and they smoldered away to a No-Tell Motel, where they retched all nite and day and gave stucco to 78 beautiful, healthy weasels. Jess +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nostromo30 at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 22:26:11 1998 From: nostromo30 at xxx.com (donovan nuyen) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:26:11 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981111222739.24040.qmail@hotmail.com> jennifer wrote: >i was curious to find out whether to "dream of horses" really meant to dream of sex, so i checked in a book of dream interpretation and it said "if you dream of horses, you will amass wealth and enjoy life to its fullest extent." that *could* mean having sex, but it also makes sense with the song, but the literal interpretation makes sense in the song as well! :) jennifer who has never had a dream of horses. lennox wrote: >?I looked it up as well and my book says its all about sex and lack of control of your own sexuality but i prefer to think of it more literally as sex tends to get everywhere Lennox okay...since weve come upon this topic, i would just liek to address that it�s a topic that me and my best friend tuan, have been pondering. I think it came from when this girl said she would think of some guy and drive down a bumpy road..strange anomaly i dismissed. then i read in a magazine that alyssa milano get �strange sensations� when she does sit-ups...it was then that began to wonder...am i missing out? ive always interpreted it as...horses are ridden; they go inbetween your legs. i thought there was some dominance factor too, as of the physicality of the situation and the domestication. that, and i hear that horses have large wangs. after constant soul-searching, (yes i did that bit where i stand out on the beach dune, sandals in hand, staring into the tide) i layed in bed all day, while my mate tuan went out and asked someone. and get this..�it� was a girl!! this conversation happened in IM messaging, for posterity..and long distance is expensive..i took the girl�s sn off in case she might be bothered, but i encourage you to bother tuan pham aka. ingenue911 !!...now he�s a shoegazer if there ever was one. (he just doesn�t listen to �shoegazing music�) ingenue911: ok donatien and i have been trying to figure this out......is riding a bike or a horse like having sex? ingenue911: if its too stupid you dont have to answer girl: no ingenue911: oh ok ingenue911: hmmmm.....i thought it would be.....oh well what do i know girl: not at all......why..........y'all been trying to get that sensation from riding a bike and a horse????? ingenue911: no we were talking about chicks - i nothce a lot of they seem to like horses....well at least the ones ive known - so i thought maybe thats why they like horses....who knows girl: okay ingenue911: yes i ride my bike constatnly to get the sensation girl: funnie ingenue911: acctaully i read taht riding bikes a lot for guys make them impotent ingenue911: hmmm i ride my bike everyday...uuhhh ohhh girl: really ingenue911: do girls get offended when people use the word "chick"..i use it b/c its easier and sounds better than girl girl: i don't ingenue911: oh ok...just wondering only shoegazes when urinating (it was god�s will), Donatien ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nostromo30 at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 22:26:56 1998 From: nostromo30 at xxx.com (donovan nuyen) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 14:26:56 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981111222658.27430.qmail@hotmail.com> jennifer wrote: >i was curious to find out whether to "dream of horses" really meant to dream of sex, so i checked in a book of dream interpretation and it said "if you dream of horses, you will amass wealth and enjoy life to its fullest extent." that *could* mean having sex, but it also makes sense with the song, but the literal interpretation makes sense in the song as well! :) jennifer who has never had a dream of horses. lennox wrote: >?I looked it up as well and my book says its all about sex and lack of control of your own sexuality but i prefer to think of it more literally as sex tends to get everywhere Lennox okay...since weve come upon this topic, i would just liek to address that it�s a topic that me and my best friend tuan, have been pondering. I think it came from when this girl said she would think of some guy and drive down a bumpy road..strange anomaly i dismissed. then i read in a magazine that alyssa milano get �strange sensations� when she does sit-ups...it was then that began to wonder...am i missing out? ive always interpreted it as...horses are ridden; they go inbetween your legs. i thought there was some dominance factor too, as of the physicality of the situation and the domestication. that, and i hear that horses have large wangs. after constant soul-searching, (yes i did that bit where i stand out on the beach dune, sandals in hand, staring into the tide) i layed in bed all day, while my mate tuan went out and asked someone. and get this..�it� was a girl!! this conversation happened in IM messaging, for posterity..and long distance is expensive..i took the girl�s sn off in case she might be bothered, but i encourage you to bother tuan pham aka. ingenue911 !!...now he�s a shoegazer if there ever was one. (he just doesn�t listen to �shoegazing music�) ingenue911: ok donatien and i have been trying to figure this out......is riding a bike or a horse like having sex? ingenue911: if its too stupid you dont have to answer girl: no ingenue911: oh ok ingenue911: hmmmm.....i thought it would be.....oh well what do i know girl: not at all......why..........y'all been trying to get that sensation from riding a bike and a horse????? ingenue911: no we were talking about chicks - i nothce a lot of they seem to like horses....well at least the ones ive known - so i thought maybe thats why they like horses....who knows girl: okay ingenue911: yes i ride my bike constatnly to get the sensation girl: funnie ingenue911: acctaully i read taht riding bikes a lot for guys make them impotent ingenue911: hmmm i ride my bike everyday...uuhhh ohhh girl: really ingenue911: do girls get offended when people use the word "chick"..i use it b/c its easier and sounds better than girl girl: i don't ingenue911: oh ok...just wondering only shoegazes when urinating (it was god�s will), Donatien ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Wed Nov 11 22:45:47 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:45:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: name one free standing recepticle Message-ID: <025301be0dc5$17d1dae0$03000004@n2f9x2> dear listettes, about people falling over on buses, i've actually got nothing to say, but i once walked past a lady who promptly fell onto her knees(no fault of mine), and then, in a praying motion headbutted the pavement with a thud. i had just come from school, where i'd been studying the bystander effect, and i'm ashamed to say i proved it. it was funny though. i mean i was worried that perhaps her head may explode, but the way she fell was hilarity incarnate. well, maybe not quite that funny. i discovered on bonfire night the lenghts i'll go to for money. i had to have about 10, 20 quid so i could go out the next night, and here's what i did: 1. attempt to find a donations bucket(intended to pay for the crappy fireworks) and rob it. 2. find my brother to see if he possibly had some spare cash, 'no' he said, 'but i do have the sea scout patrol fund,' 'whoop de fucking doop', i cried sarcastically, 'there isn't a hope in hell that you'd lend it to me', 'yes i would' he said,' if you buy me a pint', 'why certainly brother' i say, and with *his* money i buy the wee lad a pint. should i be feeling guilty?, i mean, he's only 13, but already has a suspiciously high alcohol tolerance level. but who cares, the scouts managed to lend a helping hand yet again. or is that the brownies? alix.von.trappen. "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Wed Nov 11 23:04:25 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:04:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: I'm new Message-ID: Hi, I live in Berkeley. I'm new here but you don't have to welcome me if you don't want to. I really like Sinister. It's all I own so far. I hope to get more but I am on a restricted "two CD's a month" budget, so my collection grows slowly. I'm also a tremendous Roxy Music fan. I liked Velvet Goldmine, but was dissapointed to hear so many covers. BTW - I've been hearing a lot about Scott Walker. What would be recommended 1st CD if I wanted to check him out? Thanks! http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goodforyoo at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 23:21:24 1998 From: goodforyoo at xxx.com (milla |razorkandy|) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 23:21:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: empress catherine the great Message-ID: <19981111232124.13502.qmail@hotmail.com> there was a story (was it brautigan.. ) about a beautiful girl, a model, who used to ride her horse bare-back, her naked, -so both of them were naked I s'pose- until she came, and she'd experience *la petit mort*, faint and fall off but so relaxed that she was never hurt, get up, get back on, do it again.. It is a beautiful idea and a beautiful story and it would not surprise me in the least if it was grounded in a grain of truth. Milla-isobel. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Wed Nov 11 23:28:10 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 15:28:10 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Another San Francisco Bus Story Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF032FB5EE@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Julie wrote about: <> Okay you want dirt, kids? here's some for you. But not *that* kind of dirt, no no no! homegirl here's got the REAL deal...we're talking *unhygienic filth*. How bout i tell you about the two instances, yes TWO, on the aforementioned Muni whereupon a disgruntled passenger (not the same person each time, mind you--- at least two separate people had the same gobsmackingly wonderful idea!) on the late, overcrowded ride decides to vent his frustration by pooping right there on the seat. Yeah, that's what i said, they *pooped* on their bus seat. Well! THAT will show the bus driver who's in command! Thank you! And the other 75 people stuck on the stuffy, poorly-ventilated and sloooow-moving vehicle thank you also, you psychotic halfwit. <> My favorites are the ads that say something to the effect of "Domestic Violence is really quite a bad thing, you know" (or whatever) and it shows the ominous shadow of a woman gettin the smack laid down on her, transposed over the image of three moon-faced kids cowering tearfully in a corner. It's not even a picture of real people, just a cartoon-like drawing. Maybe this is what sends me into "sorry-I-know-it's-not supposed-to-be-funny-but-just-LOOK-at-it!!!" giggle fits everytime i encounter one. Then there's what I like to call the "insult to injury" buses, which are regular City buses covered all over the outside (windows, door, EVERYTHING) by an ENORMOUS ad for something like, "In theatres now, the Waterboy, starring Adam Sandler!!!" As if it's not bad enough i'm forced to use public transit, but then to have to be a mobile advert for "That 70's Show"... *sigh* well i supposed it's better than a poop bus. ta, taracita Edina: " ANYBODY can use public transport, sweetie!" Saffron: "I know. That's the point." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mew817 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 00:27:08 1998 From: Mew817 at xxx.com (Mew817 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 19:27:08 EST Subject: Sinister: More tales from the bus-stop, plus some other random things. Message-ID: Hello Keith wrote: > One of nearly a thousand people who don't have even a slight crush on me > wrote... > The moral of the story is, because in the absence of > Dawson's Creek someone has to get righteous, don't live near Holloway Road. Well, had I known that you were the one who amused me with the old man on the bus tale, then I would have voted for you! I thought that story was funny, even though the man was injured (that part wasn't funny to me).....And also, you mentioned Dawson's Creek, so surely had this happened earlier, you would have gotten a vote from me. I enjoy Dawson's Creek, it comes on tonight!! Sorry for the lack of B&S content, it's nice to hear some funny stories about buses, though....especially the one about the singing bus driver! Megan x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Thu Nov 12 00:53:35 1998 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 18:53:35 -0600 Subject: **chloe**Re: Sinister: gossiping In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981111185335.007c2100@students.uiuc.edu> At 02:01 PM 11/11/98 +0000, you wrote: >.Someone told me Chloe Sevigny had been dating last Summer Jarvis Cocker, is >that true? I know there is no B&S content in this posting at all, but as there >are some devoted fans of Mmlle. Sevigny out there, maybe they could help >this nosy being I am > >Cheers > >Arantxa I believe that chloe was exclusively dating Harmony Korine, the guy who did "kids" and "gummo" (but i think thats over now) at least i hope its over.. dmitry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 01:11:02 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:11:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Omar and Des'ree: trust me on this one Message-ID: At the risk of terminally damaging your enjoyment of TBWTAS, has anyone noticed the similarity between the melody of 'Ease Your Feet In The Sea' and Omar's 'There's Nothing Like This'? Maybe it's just me, as I'm still trying to get that Des'ree woman hauled up in front of the PRS for the uncanny similarity between her song 'Life' and Placebo's 'Nancy Boy'. I'm serious. Next time you're in a shop and it comes on Capital (this happens approximately every thirty minutes - Top Shop's a likely bet too), try singing 'Eyeholes in a paper bag/Greatest lay I ever had' over her jaunty soul ditty. A big improvement, miraculously enough. "All we've done since we got here is drink wine and screw," "What do you suggest?" "Tomorrow let's pray for beer!" Martin Horsfield +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 01:30:00 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:30:00 PST Subject: Sinister: One more for the english vs. american thread Message-ID: <19981112013001.22421.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all, Pulled this off the Moose Mansions website. I know this thread died and went to heaven weeks ago, but you MUST read this... Yer pal, Rachael Jo's Completely Factual and Not At All Juvenile Guide for Americans Visiting Britain I keep getting mail from Cornell students who ask my advice on travelling and researching in the UK -- apparently someone started a rumor that I knew something about it. I finally decided to compile a little guidebook containing my accumulated wisdom on the subject. I do fervently hope that someone will put it to use. Vocabulary The Brits have peculiar words for many things. Money is referred to as "goolies" in slang, so you should for instance say "I'd love to come to the pub but I haven't got any goolies." "Quid" is the modern word for what was once called a "shilling" -- the equivalent of seventeen cents American. Underpants are called "wellies" and friends are called "tossers." If you are fond of someone, you should tell him he is a "great tosser" -- he will be touched. The English are a notoriously demonstrative, tactile people, and if you want to fit in you should hold hands with your acquaintances and tossers when you walk down the street. Public nuzzling and licking are also encouraged, but only between people of the same sex. Habits Ever since their Tory government wholeheartedly embraced full union with Europe, the Brits have been attempting to adopt certain continental customs, such as the large midday meal followed by a two- or three-hour siesta , which they call a "wank." As this is still a fairly new practice in Britain, it is not uncommon for people to oversleep (alarm clocks, alas, do not work there due to the magnetic pull from Greenwich). If you are late for supper, simply apologize and explain that you were having a wank -- everyone will understand and forgive you. Universities University archives and manuscript collections are still governed by quaint medieval rules retained out of respect for tradition; hence patrons are expected to bring to the reading rooms their own ink-pots and a small knife for sharpening their pens. Observing these customs will signal the librarians that you are "in the know" -- one of the inner circle, as it were, for the rules are unwritten and not posted anywhere in the library. Likewise, it is customary to kiss the librarian on both cheeks when he brings a manuscript you've requested, a practice dating back to the reign of Henry VI. One of the most delighful ways to spend an afternoon in Oxford or Cambridge is gliding gently down the river in one of their flat-bottomed boats, which you propel using a long pole. This is known as "cottaging." Many of the boats (called "yer-I-nals") are privately owned by the colleges, but there are some places that rent them to the public by the hour. Just tell a professor or policeman that you are interested in doing some cottaging and would like to know where the public yerinals are. The poles must be treated with vegetable oil to protect them from the water, so it's a good idea to buy a can of Crisco and have it on you when you ask directions to the yerinals. That way people will know you are an experienced cottager. Food British cuisine enjoys a well deserved reputation as the most sublime gastronomic pleasure available to man. Thanks to today's robust dollar, the American traveller can easily afford to dine out several times a week (rest assured that a British meal is worth interrupting your afternoon wank for). Few foreigners are aware that there are several grades of meat in the UK. The best cuts of meat, like the best bottles of gin, bear Her Majesty's seal, called the British Stamp of Excellence (BSE). When you go to a fine restaurant, tell your waiter you want BSE beef and won't settle for anything less. If he balks at your request, custom dictates that you jerk your head imperiously back and forth while rolling your eyes to show him who is boss. Once the waiter realizes you are a person of discriminating taste, he may offer to let you peruse the restaurant's list of exquisite British wines. If he doesn't, you should order one anyway. The best wine grapes grow on the steep, chalky hillsides of Yorkshire and East Anglia -- try an Ely '84 or Ripon '88 for a rare treat indeed. When the bill for your meal comes it will show a suggested amount. Pay whatever you think is fair, unless you plan to dine there again, in which case you should simply walk out; the restaurant host will understand that he should run a tab for you. Transportation Public taxis are subsidized by the Her Majesty's Government. A taxi ride in London costs two pounds, no matter how far you travel. If a taxi driver tries to overcharge you, you should yell "I think not, you charlatan!", then grab the nearest bobby and have the driver arrested. It is rarely necessary to take a taxi, though, since bus drivers are required to make detours at patrons' requests. Just board any bus, pay your fare of thruppence (the heavy gold-colored coins are "pence"), and state your destination clearly to the driver, e.g.: "Please take me to the British Library." A driver will frequently try to have a bit of harmless fun by pretending he doesn't go to your requested destination. Ignore him, as he is only teasing the American tourist (little does he know you're not so ignorant!). Speaking of the British Library, you should know that it has recently moved to a new location at Kew. Kew is a small fishing village in Wales. It can be reached by taking the train to Cardiff; once there, ask any local about the complimentary shuttle bus to Kew. (Don't forget that buses are called "prams" in England, and trains are called "bumbershoots"--it's a little confusing at first. Motorcycles are called "lorries" and the hospital, for reasons unknown, is called the "off-license." It's also very important to know that a "doctor" only means a PhD in England, not a physician. If you want a physician, you must ask for an "MP" (which stands for "master physician"). For those travelling on a shoestring budget, the London Tube may be the most economical way to get about, especially if you are a woman. Chivalry is alive and well in Britain, and ladies still travel for free on the Tube. Simply take some tokens from the baskets at the base of the escalators or on the platforms; you will find one near any of the state-sponsored Tube musicians. Once on the platform, though, beware! Approaching trains sometimes disurb the large Gappe bats that roost in the tunnels. The Gappes were smuggled into London in the early 19th century by French saboteurs and have proved impossible to exterminate. The announcement "Mind the Gappe!" is a signal that you should grab your hair and look towards the ceiling. Very few people have ever been killed by Gappes, though, and they are considered only a minor drawback to an otherwise excellent means of transportation. (If you have difficulty locating the Tube station, merely follow the signs that say "Subway" and ask one of the full-time attendants where you can catch the bumbershoot.) One final note: for preferential treatment when you arrive at Heathrow airport, announce that you are a member of Shin Fane (an international Jewish peace organization -- the "shin" stands for "shalom"). As savvy travellers know, this little white lie will assure you priority treatment as you make your way through customs; otherwise you could waste all day in line. You might, in fact, want to ask a customs agent to put a Shin Fane stamp in your passport, as it will expedite things on your return trip. Bollocks to your mum! ("farewell and good health to your family") -- Vectored by Moose Mansions (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2694/) ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 01:48:35 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:48:35 PST Subject: Sinister: Love Bus Message-ID: <19981112014839.20074.qmail@hotmail.com> dear sweets ones, i'm sorry evan dando,again..what i meant with the kate moss thing is that you always see evan dando at the hip cool shows,sitting on the floor smoking a cigarette,and i can see kate moss doing that too..going 'well i really like how they don't do interviews,i like that' Belle And Sebastian will have to dance in a line to become popular in the US? well....dancing in a line isn't such a bad thing,they could be quite cute if they did it motown style...but see i say 'dancing in a line' not LINE DANCING..oh no,i had to do that once as a section for my gym class,we was taught the macarena as well.... Philippe, Philippe Candelero is not gay, he has a wife,a ballerina! (I could've been a ballerina,sniff...or a world class footballer!)..and he is not a bug...I mean,who do you expect me to figure-skater crush over? Elvis Stojko? i much prefer your countries talents! ohmygoodness...what a lovely story,the Love Bus..that man calling it the Love Bus! why aren't there more bus drivers like that? the quebec buses always have grouchy men that demand to see your student card to make sure you're not cheating them a whole 50 cents! nothing interesting goes on these buses..no matter how much i scowl and try and looka like a mean person,grannies with too many groceries and men with really big butts so that you are forced to practically sit on always sit with you! the only interesting thing that happened,was my friend was puking on the city bus once,and she makes really funny noises and she cleared the whole bus! the good thing she was so drunk,she didn't even get the chance to be embarrased and just mumbled 'feccck off's! to people.....my uncles,he's an ottawa busdriver and he gets more interesting people...people who give him eggs as bus fare! and even those people in raincoats who flash you and then dive out the emergency exit! >Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:41:16 -0000 >From: Warrander John - FML >Subject: Sinister: You F*t Bastard > >Listees, > >Before I vote for my list crush I'd really like to know if there's >any ex-Carter USM fellows around. Nobody seems to have >mentioned them in the "rich and famous" section recently so >I presume not. Shame that, I'd like to vote for Jon "fat" Beast >as my list crush. > >You Fat Bastard >You Fat Bastard >You Fat Bastard > >Actually, I just wanted to swear a bit. I'd really vote for Fruitbat. >I loved Carter. Are they still togethor? I really liked the way they >mentioned bits of London in their records and you could get all >excited on the night bus back to Greenwich, spotting Carter >songs and getting all welled up to "GI Blues". I had a t-shirt with >"Sarf London" written on it too, and the "Beast" came and told >me "I love that t-shirt", in a toilet on Clapham Common. It was a >defining moment in my life. I love you Beast, wherever you are. john is a funny man...and i can't tell if he is being honest or being sarcastic! if honest..i have to join in oh Fruitbat is such a doll! they came to ottawa last summer,and i was in detroit and i couldn't see them,so i made a little book for them to sign..and they all did,and salv even wrote down his address and phone number...but i don't know what to say,i don't know whatever to say! sigh sigh why you strange people keep thinking dreaming of horses means dreaming of sex? it means freedom,baby! I don't have my Zolar's Book Of Dreams,but when i get it from my locker..i will check it out... anyways,from my point of view,Judy does it with a boy...and most highschool boys are sleazy little bastards who tell all their friends that they scored,so judy feels disgusted with herself..."Why Am I Surrounded By Such Morons?" she wonders.."I can't talk about art or books with them...when i read a book,i have to pretend and tell them it's for english class.." for now,she is stuck in this dreary world and she gives herself to books and learning as her weapon...she can't forget about them with her own intelligence and learning and imagination....the dreams of horses..horses are beautiful free creatures,much like judy wants to be (but she suffers from low-self esteem)...she thinks that some of the high school boys are maybe not that bad but...the best looking,popular ones are taken,so judy is left with the awful sweaty eager ones that don't know anything about her...she's still young,she has hormones,mind..and when she does find suitable boys that would be fun with...she still finds there's something missing with them,and is filled with disappointment and ants in her pants..there's just something missing to her whole life it seems,the dreary existence and life of school! Boarding the bus day,after day....so that sleep is really the only thing that feels good...oh there has never been a truer statement with her then 'judy never felt so good except when she was sleeping' she falls back into her bed,alone with her thoughts and her chance to dream of horses and what will one day be! love, Genevieve ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 01:56:24 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 17:56:24 PST Subject: Sinister: secrets Message-ID: <19981112015628.7200.qmail@hotmail.com> ..whoops,i just wrote a whole bunch there so you probably don't want to see me here again,quite so soon..but anyways, tuff luck why are sinister list crushes such teases? they didn't tell last time,they don't tell now...oh dear dear dears reveal yourselfs is st-lucy still inspiring lust? i think not-now that brad's photo is here,and he's a hot mother tucker..and to think he can stir such feelings without even having the seductive finger-biting pose! xxxx genevieve p.s more about judy and her dreams of horses.. horses are found galloping along the green green countryside,so i think judy longs for the simplicity of country and all the fun you had as a child..playing in the creek,building dams etc...if she was dreaming about sex and the city it would be more Judy And The Dream Of Pigeons...but that's just the thoughts inside my head,so don't pay too much attention to the ramblings. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mew817 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 02:13:29 1998 From: Mew817 at xxx.com (Mew817 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:13:29 EST Subject: Sinister: A mistake, English v. America, & Atlanta Message-ID: <991bc41f.364a4449@aol.com> First of all, while complimenting Neil on his funny story about buses, for some reason I addressed him as Keith...sorry. Secondly, I really enjoyed that piece that Rachel sent about the English and American debate... Finally, is there anyone on this list from Atlanta, GA? OK that's all, next time I write I promise to add B&S content! Megan x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 02:42:54 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 21:42:54 EST Subject: Sinister: A San Francisco Bus Story Message-ID: <934b7d9d.364a4b2e@aol.com> In a message dated 11/11/98 1:35:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, Julie_Smith at iacnet.com writes: << Anyone who's lived in San Francisco for a period of time has experienced how horrible our mass transit (called MUNI) is. After commuting to work for three years, I have many many stories, some funny and some frustrating. But I'll just tell you an old favorite. >> Oh yes Thats True,I myself dont live in San Fransico but live near it So I do alot of traveling there well anyways One Time, me and an old friend almost all the bus was full and I had to sit next to This Crazy guy who was laughing and talking about boogers and a chinse man and then when We stoped at a stop we got disconnectied with the cables and We were like oh no and my Friend Had a lil katchup spot on his mouth and The Chinse guy said OH YOU POOR PERSON and Got a Water Bottle out and Dipped a napkin in it and Started Wipping his face With it and The Crazy guy said HAHA YOU GOT BoOGERS on your Face and i started laughing and the Crazy guy said YOU GOT BOOGERS IN YOUR UNDERWEAR HEHE and so When We go off and then We were in a Resturent and He came in and Said HAHA YOU HAVE BOOGERS IN YOUR FOOD and Ran off. it was really funny -DAmon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Thu Nov 12 05:42:04 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (keith m) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:42:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: vicarious bus shenanigans Message-ID: <364A752C.215E685D@bignet.net> because i am not all that clever i thought i'd use the frank and walters 'happy busman' for my bus story:) andy james drives a bus for the lonely, he cheers up everyone every day, andy james loves them all like his family, and i think he's some ??? guy, why not jump on the five for your journey, it's a bus ride you'll never regret, andy james will make everyone happy, and his smile you'll never forget, he's got pink carpet on the sliding door and super baubles on the marble floor don't need no money cause the entry's free and i think james is gonna make the whole world smile with love. so smile, smile all the time, smile all your life don't ever die. how could you not love the frank and walters? keith mcl i saw the 'is it wicked not to care' video, tis a shame the screen is about 3 cm x 2 cm. the hefner video at that site is pretty silly. i wonder if they will tour the states now that their record is available here? hefner-fever is spreading fast right? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimmybryant at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 05:34:34 1998 From: jimmybryant at xxx.com (jimmy bryant) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 00:34:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Good festivals and other questions In-Reply-To: <01BE0D73.4206E1E0@Abonado-195-53-42-98.cat.es> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981112003434.0075fa9c@pop.mindspring.com> At 11:54 AM 11/11/98 +-100,Martin wrote: >Well I forgot to talk about Primal Scream, Placebo, Yo la Tengo, The Jesus >& Mary Chain, Spiritualized, The Unbelievable Truth or the Red House >Painters at the same festival. The Red House Painters. Anybody know the story on this band. I heard that after the last album, Songs from a Blue Guitar, all the members quit leaving Mark Kozelak to fend for himself, but he said he was gonna find new members. This was a couple years ago. If anybody knows whats up with t(him) chop me a line. jimmy thin_king you lived in a house on Chamblee-Dunwoody way... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From J_Fogel at xxx.EDU Thu Nov 12 19:17:34 1998 From: J_Fogel at xxx.EDU (jess) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:17:34 -0600 Subject: Sinister: 4ad? Message-ID: <364B344E.6410D1BB@emerson.edu> heya ..... here is a suggestion, why won't the sinister list unit with the 4AD mailing list, you are talking about the same music anyway, same bands.....(only u people are much nicer, they don't really, talk about interesting stuff like bus stories and dirty dreams...) i guess i'm too tired, so i suppose the best thing would be to ignore this mail.... goodnight j. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 12 06:39:16 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 01:39:16 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: she's right Message-ID: refer to genevieve's love bus post, anyone who wants to know what judy and the dream of horses is about. i think that should be the definitive anwser listed in the faq. xox megan aka the *real* megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 06:42:15 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1998 22:42:15 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981112064216.12643.qmail@hotmail.com> oh my ga! i have a great selfish idea. my c.d. player got stolen out of my car a couple months ago and i still haven't got a new one. so i have been listening to tapes ever since and they are starting to dull up a bit. so i was wandering if there are any of you out there who just love forcing new music on people with tapes you make them. personally i'm one of those people but i want some new stuff to keep me going. and i don't know if any of you have heard of my friend brad, you know the big ol' pimp who got 3 votes and left his only true friend jealous and crying, well he has like 4,362 c.d.'s but he's nice enough to make tapes for me all the time so i figured i'd turn to someone else. and besides he's REALLY into making tapes, i mean it's pretty sick, i once caught him getting off to making someone a blank tape on the list. i don't know who but one of your tapes out there was his playboy at some point in time. anyway, i know there used to be a mixed tape tree going on but i don't want that i just want a tape for me. but i'll be happy to return the favor. mabye even get some tracks from brads infamous collection, who knows. or if you really like i could pimp brad myself to you in return! so i ask all of you to feel pitty on this poor soul, imagine if it was you with nothing to listen to on the road to work every morning. robbie ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From K970156 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 08:49:25 1998 From: K970156 at xxx.uk (Shelley Feltham) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:49:25 GMT +0100 Subject: Sinister: grim patches In-Reply-To: <3649B68E.6FC0C257@bignet.net> Message-ID: <8FB8DC016F@neptune.kingston.ac.uk> We are all middle class now? You know the answer to this is, if we are all middle class now then who is emptying the bins? Also is that Stu M on the cover of 3-6-9 seconds of light? Yes I am terminally dim and have just noticed a resemblance. Please help a sad person out. Shelley +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Jackson at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 10:03:29 1998 From: John.Jackson at xxx.com (Jackson,John) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:03:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I'm gonna love you anyhow Message-ID: Morning Sinisteroids I, like some other people, bought the Acid House soundtrack yesterday, not specifically for the B&S tune on it though, it's a good compilation I think. Slow Graffiti is rather gorgeous though isn't it? Now that it's finally recorded 'properly'. I always thought it was a bit dull live and a bit of a mish mash when everyone is making the racket at the end, but listening in the comfort of my living room I felt entirely different towards it. It's got everything you need, quiet bits, loud bits and it stops before it becomes too boring. Nice. Also, got the Elliot Smith album XO after hearing the song 'Waltz no.2' on Mark n lard the other day, I thought he was rubbish in Leeds but this album is fucking brilliant and 'Waltz no.2' is one of the most beautful songs I have heard this year. You've probably all already got it though. I'm a bit slow on the uptake you see. AND I also bought 'Junk Culture' and 'Dazzle Ships' by OMD. The latter is a most amazing album, commercial suicide you'd think...anyone one how it fared when it came out? (1983 I think). One 'song' consists of submarine noises followed by a klaxxon. Groovy baby groovy. Oh dear one of my digital transmitters has just turned itself off. Cheerio. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 10:27:45 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 02:27:45 -0800 Subject: Sinister: I'm gonna love you anyhow Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C90676303F4CCB@EDINBURGH> >Slow Graffiti is rather gorgeous though isn't it? >Now that it's finally recorded 'properly'. I have to say I was very disappointed in the studio version of Slow Graffiti. The production on it is terrible, and Stuart hit's a few bad keys. It also sounds really bad when the band kicks in. I don't know what everyone else thinks, but I don't think it's the best track to put on a compilation (it will not get B&S many new fans). I'd much rather listen to the sessions version. Sorry, I think this is the first time I've ever been disappointed with something B&S have made. I was listening to Tigermilk this morning for the first time in a while, and I have to say that, IMHO, it's still the best thing B&S have done. I've got a feeling that when it's re-released, the music press will proclaim it a classic. Cheers, Nhoj. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Nov 12 10:43:11 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:43:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: When the World's at Peace Message-ID: <01be0e29$3eafa8e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Bee content: Janine wrote: ok, any other questions about bees, just ask... sadly enough, I probably know the answer. If you bung a bumble bee up your bum, does your bum bleed, or does the bumble bee blow bubbles? Janine, you may be interested in wiggling your butt to the fabulous album "Hey Love" by Rotary Connection. It contains a song called "Hanging Round the Bee Tree" which is sung from the point of view of a humble worker bee who wants to get it on with the queen bee. He makes no explicit reference to the ensuing knob loss situation, but although it remains unspoken, I feel that this dilemna is what gives the song its peculiar dynamics. Jordi wrote: I am pleased because Jack + Hefner will be playing Barcelona the December 7th. It can be interesting to know for Mr. Peter Miller that they will also be playing in San Sebastian (good name for a lovely city). I look forward to forming an opinion of Jack and Hefner based purely on their live performance, as I did a couple of weeks ago with boring bastard Mark Lanegan. I heard him on the radio the other night, and it turned out to be quite good after all. Lo Fidelity Allstars are playing tonight, but it's well past my bedtime, so I don't think I'll be going. I hope they're shit, otherwise I'll be well pissed off. Respect to Jeanvierve (as I like to pronounce it) for her lengthy interpretation of JATDOHorses. This is what the list is all about. Yay! I shall now give my interpretation of the title of "Slow Grafitti": The writing is on the wall for Johnny, but he's a bit slow on the uptake. Clever, eh? Did I say shoegazing was shit? Hush ma mouth! It's fantastic. I had forgotten my favourite bargain bucket LP, Flying Saucer Attack. Also, there's some shit hot womble related stuff out there. Phew! I hope that gets me off the hook. Footwear-centric drone rock - MAGIC! Evil Bootlegger may like to know that I pricked my finger with one of those cute little button badges yesterday, and it still hurts. I trust we will be getting ink polaroids of that Salako happening. May I draw your attention to a splendid portrait of Mad Dog Murdoch on the Mummy page? It was done by my lovely wife, as a tribute to Lesley Jo's adventures in Washington DC. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Jackson at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 11:17:23 1998 From: John.Jackson at xxx.com (Jackson,John) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:17:23 +0000 Subject: Sinister: and a double dumbass on YOU Message-ID: "AND I also bought 'Junk Culture' and 'Dazzle Ships' by OMD. The latter is a most amazing album, commercial suicide you'd think...anyone one how it fared when it came out? (1983 I think). " what a poohead. of course, what I meant to write was "does anyone KNOW how it fared". JJ xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Thew at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 11:30:06 1998 From: Sarah.Thew at xxx.com (Thew Sarah) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:30:06 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A train story Message-ID: Stuff like this happens to me all the time - I can only put it down to the fact that if I was a super hero my special power would be "nutter magnetism" On the train to Penrith a really drunk old Glaswegian guy came and sat with me, and tried to share his can of special brew - mmmm ..I was tempted, but refused. Then this old woman walked down the aisle and he reached out and pinched her bum.. which wasnt really funny cos she was SO offended, but I couldnt help laughing..... And that really set him off - this guy kept singing to me about how sad he was that i didnt love him anymore. And then tears started rolling down his cheeks.. EVERYONE in the carriage was staring at the pair of us.. so at the next stop I had to pretend to get off the train and escape into the next carriage. Where i bumped into Will Self..weird...am sure there is a lesson to be learned from this .. Sarahx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 11:35:59 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:35:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Ooooh, you're for it now! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <199811121130.LAA12728@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Oh dear, no votes for me. lets have a look at that list again... > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > 8 votes: > FLUFFY SARAH > > 6 votes: > Peter Miller > > 5 votes: > Honey > Stevie Trousers > And some Tall Git whose name escapes me just now... > > 4 votes: > Genevieve Wesley > Magnetic Megan Lehar > > 3 votes: > FunkySeb > Philippe > Corpora Arenacea > Chris Leonard > Brad > Joss Moorkens > > 2 votes: > Keith Watson > Reid Dossinger > Oon > Charlotte Hall > Erin Lewis > Archel > Andy (Seymour?) > Henry Thomas > St Lucy > > 1 vote: > Jake Reichert; Christa Chaffinch; Mark Casarotto; Adrian Evans; Mick > McMick; Pam Berry; Susannah; Nick Dastoor; Jessica Murphy; Liz Daplyn; > Joao Henrique Horst; Kevan Cooke; Andrew Nicol; Tara Widmer; Matthew > Crooker; Becka; Tag; John Warrender; Xavier; Matthew Phintz; Gary Done; > Linda Kerr; Vicky Parkinson; Monaz; Calumn Shearer; Martin Horsfield; > Jennifer Phillips-Bacher; Anastasia Signoretta; Elisabeth (from Toronto); > Lesley J Miller; Minnie Riperton; Claire Timmins; Humbert Humbert; David > Kitchen; Chloe Sevigny; The French Girl on John Warrender's party > invitation; and Teddy Pendergrass and everyone else in the entire > world except for.... > > 0 Votes: > WeeJay. Ungrateful swine... ...thats one less X you'll be getting from me at the end. Pah! you wait until I put a photo up - I'm gorgeous and modest about it too. Her supreme fluffy highness scrawled: > Weej - Wee Jay, Wudge? Oh is that the thanks I get...! I agree to vote for you 8 times under different aliases and you cant even remember my name. Ok you misguided fools, I'll recount my own bus story before I go home and actually eat something... The year is 1991. Probably. The number 32 bus is pulling up to the stop by the co-op in Worcester. As the doors open I (at this time a cute little schoolboy who's afraid of everything) coolly leap out of the bus but forget to run with my inertia, trip and land straight on my face. 20 schoolchildren file out and look at my injured body. One in particular, a slimy nasty brat from the year below, hurls abuse at me. In a flash, I hurl the empty can in my hand at him and get him right in the middle of his forehead. HA! You Just Wait, WeeJay XX (and no more) James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 11:50:25 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:50:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: I have no goolies Message-ID: That was a great thing about the travel advice for visitors to this septic isle. And oddly enough it allows me to combine a number of threads with some list stalking... First of all I was on a bus, keeping it real. That's where all good stories start these days. Secondly I was passing Kew which as you will all now know is a fishing village in Wales. As I looked out of the window who should I see leaving their house but our very own David and Katrina. Katrina was looking like some kind of winter princess in a beautiful green coat with a furry trim. But David had surpassed himself for I swear he was wearing no less a garment than a Lord Anthony style parka!!! Truly a man on the edge of the zeitgeist. I salute you. Next week I'll tell you what I found in their dustbin.... xx John Johnston - that's with T but no E (an ideal night out) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 12:07:22 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:07:22 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: sniffles Message-ID: i am saddened to report that belle and sebastian have actually been absent from my cd player for a good 36 hours now. this rare state of affairs is due to the fact that i have a cold and can't bear to ruin my listening experience with sniffles and sneezes and phlegmy coughs. but i still sing 'mary jo' every morning in the shower, snotty tones and all. jarvis cocker *is* going out with chloe sevigny i believe. i read a rather judgemental article that talked about him losing his nice-guy, man of the people credentials by dumping his psychiatric nurse girlfriend of 10 years for a film star. meeting people on buses: i'm more of a train girl, but asking people what they're reading sometimes works. i once spent an entire journey sitting next to a gorgeous guy who was reading exactly the same (penguin) edition of frankenstein that i had in my bag. but i didn't say anything. and i thought it would have been crass to take it out. oh, and before i go (inspiration being pretty short what with the cold and everything) i demand that the 2 people who voted for me fess up immediately. i adore you both and will write some more smut especially for you (rather than going on about my phlegm) if you just tell me... :) love to all, archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 95djb2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 12:32:13 1998 From: 95djb2 at xxx.uk (Dom) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:32:13 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Hey - I didn't get any votes either! In-Reply-To: <199811121130.LAA12728@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Message-ID: Maybe all the vote-less listees should form some sort of bitter and twisted union...or maybe I should post more so people actually know I'm on this list. yes, _that_ must be why I didn't get any votes. Phew avoided minor confidence crisis :) On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, WeeJay wrote: > > Oh dear, no votes for me. lets have a look at that list again... > NO let's not, else the continuing expansion of Fluffy's ego will cause some kind of temporal space-time-everything-collapsing-inside-itself-no-one-really-understands-it- kind-of-thing disaster. You know, one of those. And Thursday lunchtimes really aren't the time for those. more of a weekend hangover thing. Oh go on then, but I'm abridging it: > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > 6 votes: > > Peter Miller > > > > 5 votes: > > Honey > > Stevie Trousers > > And some Tall Git whose name escapes me just now... > > > > 4 votes: > > Genevieve Wesley > > Magnetic Megan Lehar > > Don't ask me why I cut it at four votes - it's my email and I'll do what i want, else I'll throw a tantrum... Apologies to anyone who might have got missed off the top, too - must be my mail software ;) Mercury Rev, Mercury rev, Mercury revolving constantly in my CD player - I know it's been said before but it _is_ good :) So good in fact I didn't bother getting out of bed this morning when it woke me up - but then it was 7.45am and I am a student, so that's fair enough I reckon. One listen through and I was ready to bound (read crawl) out of bed and face the world (or at leasr a few close friends who don't laugh at me too much). So thanks everyone for making me buy the album, being out of touch with the real world I'd never have done it without all the recommendations :) Right, I had loads of stuff to reply to when I got around to posting, so here goes, starting with my favourite mails of the last, ooh I don't know but it's been a long time: Jamie 'fruite' McCordale's Tuesday morning extra poem was just lovely. If I was gay I'd have had my list crush sorted straight away - but I'm not and I don't want to start that whole sexuality thread again..unless Jamie is actually a girl, in which case I've just made some sort of embarrassing gaffe. Sorry. Trousers' TURNIP FOR THE BOOKS/MUPPETRY REV post was cool - bonus points for tongue-in-cheek use of NME-style headlines. The travel advice actually got forwarded to my friends, but I don't think they've appreciated it - maybe it was too long for them. right, that's enough gushing... Is this Brighton meet going ahead over Xmas? Sorry if it's all on the web but I haven't checked the pages in a little while. Oh goolies I've run out of things to say - how dull. What a great word goolies is! Talk about nostalgia (I used to have some once you know..) oops I meant nostalgia for the playground and all those words you used to use, not for my goolies... Can we do a top ten list of playground words? Can I start can I can I please? 1. Goolies Or you could all just ignore it in a kind of "I'm too cool for lists" way. Haven't got any bus stories but I've got plenty of cycling ones 'cos I have to cycle 3 miles each way through the traffic to Uni every day. Later maybe. Byeeeeeeeee (sound of me rushing off - I like to give the impression I'm busy even though the length of this mail shows I'm not) Dom +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From buffalo at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 12:38:46 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:38:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: When the World's at Peace References: <01be0e29$3eafa8e0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <364AD6D6.66F3228C@easynet.co.uk> PJMiller wrote: > Janine, you may be interested in wiggling your butt to the fabulous > album "Hey Love" by Rotary Connection. It contains a song called > "Hanging Round the Bee Tree" which is sung from the point of view of a > humble worker bee who wants to get it on with the queen bee. He makes > no explicit reference to the ensuing knob loss situation, but although > it remains unspoken, I feel that this dilemna is what gives the song > its peculiar dynamics. Thank you Peter for reminding me to do my bi-annual search for re-released Rotary Connection stuff. I'm sure you're aware they've just had a CD released of 'their two most sought-after albums', 'Songs' and 'Hey Love'. Me and my mate have been trying in vain to get hold of vinyl copies for yonks ever since we heard 'I Am The Black Gold Of The Sun' on Kiss 100 a few years back. Needless to say we were met with umpteen record-stall owner smirks. For anyone interested (that should really be all of you), Rotary Connection was fronted by the late Minnie Riperton, who had a massive hit with 'Loving You' four or five years after these albums were released. For more info, y'all try http://www.acerecords.co.uk/gotrt/sept98/cdbgpd115.html > I look forward to forming an opinion of Jack and Hefner based purely > on their live performance, as I did a couple of weeks ago with boring > bastard Mark Lanegan. I heard him on the radio the other night, and it > turned out to be quite good after all. Kool and the Gang. I was hoping you were going to retract that 'boring bastard' tag. Lanegan's voice is awesome. Not many people can do full justice to Charlie Rich's 'Feel Like Going Home', but Marky boy manages it in spades on the Walkabout's album 'Satisfied Mind', where his voice comes crawling and belching in halfway through. His band The Screaming Trees gave us the album 'Sweet Oblivion' too. I don't listen to much straight-ahead rock music, but this is a killer. > May I draw your attention to a splendid portrait of Mad Dog Murdoch on > the Mummy page? It was done by my lovely wife, as a tribute to Lesley > Jo's adventures in Washington DC. May I draw to everyone's attention to something I noticed some time last year. I've not seen it mentioned elsewhere, but others may have. Coincidence. honest. Take a copy of Simon and Garfunkel's album 'Bridge Over Troubled Water', preferably vinyl cos the picture's bigger. Starting from the bottom, slide another album or CD upwards, until Paul Simon's eyes are just covered. And hey, blow me if ol' Art Garfunkel doesn't have the most *massive* fucking moustache. B & S content ? They'd have to be bloody ungrateful not to be.. Been so long, be so long, Turt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 12:15:54 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:15:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sergeant Rock is going to help me Message-ID: Sing hosannah! There was top comedy on the list today, provided by Jess, whose line "She died in front of her full-length colostomy bag" would ordinarily have been my quote of the week, but for the snippet from the Moose site which Rachael presented, which I sent to everyone in my office and now they think I'm a weirdo. What a shame, then, that the usually reliable Brad spoiled everything by these flagrant words of dispespect to the List's equivalent of a Chelsea Pensioner: >so duke ain't around anymore, huh? i hated that cocky shithead >anyway. glad to see he's fucked off and let us be. always going on >about his jasmine minks and felt this and felt that. good riddance! Brad, this man fought and died for us in what is now known as the War of the Stone Roses, and this is how you thank him? Wear your P!O!Ppy with pride. Those of you who still want to get their daily duke dose are directed to the Shalala mailing list where him and other veterans talk about the good old days, without the distractions of such low brow trivia as smut, crushes or, apparently, women. Genevieve, lovely, lovely Genevieve wrote: >is st-lucy still inspiring lust? She seems to be. And she wants you to know that neither of you should have bothered cos she only has eyes for the Peter Miller, el Guapo. She said something about wanting to recreate the final scene from Pedro Almodovar's "Matador" with him, and that, even though he clearly isn't a Basque separatist, he can seperate her from her basque any time he wants. She also said some very hurtful things to me about my sudden decrease in list crushes, and so I've enlisted the help of Sergeant Rock Watson. If I could only be tough like him, then I could win... my own...small...battle of the sexes. The Workshy Fop Warrender asked if we all still hated Steven Wells. Not at all. Did anyone see his review of Atari Teenage Riot in NME where he suggested that they sampled the death cries of Belle and Sebastian fans? How nice of him to think of us. I once spent a delightful New Year's Eve in the company of Atari's Alec Empire, there were nine of us in his VW Jetta, hurtling round East Berlin. He's a very nice young man actually, although he did keep asking me the best way to provoke the British when they toured here. Later we went to a club where a young Berliner, possibly high on drugs, kept telling me how he wanted "to lick a voman", while looking intently at my girlfriend. Ah...memories. Gabba gabba hey, Love tag xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 12:54:26 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:54:26 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: like a red-headed stepchild In-Reply-To: <3649F579.43E8@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Being Spanish myself and I have not heard of Univision in my whole life, that's amazing and pitiful, if we believe Brad's comments on it. Is it really Spanish or you mean they speak in Spanish, because my most sensible regard about such a channel is that it will be Mexican or Colombian... Yeah,I knew that rumor about Jarvis + Chloe was turning up to be of general interest.So, according to the collected samples, it must be true. I totally agree with the article Archel quoted in her posting.This sort of pathetically nice guys a-l-w-a-y-s dump their nursing love of their lives for someone ...ehr, trendier, more popular,blonder and younger. I had a so called friend in Spain who was called Jarvis by some acquaintances of mine.He was a big fan of Sheffield's bard,obviously, and looked quite a lot like him in any physical or pschycological way.He had studied something as weird ,old fashioned and geeky as Agricultural Engineering and was currently on the dole.Well,that was about three years ago.My friend was not an impersonator of Jarvis, I mean, he was like him before nobody in Spain has ever heard of Mr Cocker and his band. But Pulp suceeded and reached the charts, and all the geeky geezers congratulate themselves, they were fashionable at last and they could socialise with the in crowd.So my friend was harassed and pounced quite insistently by an Art student with a thirst of knowledge as well as loaded dad ,he quitted his relationship with some girl he had met at the Agricultural Eng. School as shy and skinny as him,and is happily coupled since 'Common people' was acclaimed by the masses with this fashion designer playing to be as weird as him. So all are the same! Even if they lose their credibility, they forget easily when they shag some bird belonging to that posh as well as creative race Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 13:20:45 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:20:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Here We Go, Here We Go, Here We Go Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B004261E2@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Isn't football bloody brilliant? I reckon it's a bit trendy now to be into sports and wear "casual" clothes and stuff so that's exactly what I'm doing. I was a Hibs casual once in a previous life you know, so I'm looking forward to The Acid House with relish. I've hung up my stanley knife now so any supposed threats of violence that Ratbag McTaggart has been spreading on my behalf are obviously nonsense. Like this one Peter Miller was on about: >Due to the imminent danger of being set on fire, I have to >clarify a point I made last week. No way did I ever make any threat of hopping on an aeroplane to Spain and setting fire to you Peter. That was just silly, macho posturing in our local pub after a few too many lager-shandies. I've had words with McTaggart now and sorted everything out. He was a bit pissed off that I wouldn't let him have his go during our Wednesday night Chorlton lesbians bum games. Especially since I'd already done him. Do you find he squirms around a lot in the love sack er, Bunnie-Wunnie? And that high pitched squeal. Yikes. I nearly left early. Anyway, Thursday night is my evening of choice for painting the town red. Tonight I thought I'd experiment with prostitutes. I'm a bit inexperienced though, would anybody like to pass on some useful tips? I forgot to tell you about my experiments with controlled substances. It wasn't very enjoyable. And my tongue hurt for three days afterwards. Stick to alcohol kids. That's my advice. My new list hero Brad said: >so duke ain't around anymore, huh? i hated that cocky >shithead anyway. glad to see he's fucked off and let us be. >always going on about his jasmine minks and felt this and >felt that. good riddance! And there was no need for it. Can I transfer my list crush again? And the lovely Genevieve told tales of her kin and spoke of people in raincoats who flash you and then dive out the emergency exit: >even those people in raincoats who flash >you and then dive out the emergency exit! I wish that was me. I don't go on buses though. I did go on some public transport in San Francisco. And the seats were like armchairs. A train to Berkeley it was and it was brilliant. I don't like the MUNIs though. They came to our school when I was a kid and they wore bright orange vests, just like stewards at the football, and they stole children. They didn't steal me fortunately or I'd have probably never got into shoegazing. I don't think they allow stuff like that on the MUNI. And I was being serious about Carter USM Genevieve. I loved them when it was just Fruitbat, Jimbob and a drum machine. But I never really fancied Jon Beast. Not cos he's fat and ugly as sin and looks like a pig though. Cos he didn't seem like a very nice person. Are we like ships that pass in the night? Love...John PS Lo-Fidelity All Stars had single of the week in the NME this week so they can't be shite. I expect you may be able to hear their latest offering at the NME web pages. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lucy.munro at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 13:33:07 1998 From: lucy.munro at xxx.uk (Lucy Munro) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:33:07 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Blue moons, lyrics, smut, Velocette Message-ID: Um, no I'm not new or anything, I'm just very lazy and only get around to mailing this list once in a very blue moon (considering the smut that's around these days). Has any one except me noticed the connection between Stuart M's inability to rememeber song lyrics and the gradual drafting of more and more people to sing instead of him? Next stop, the Sinister male voice choir... Oh, and talking of smut, I've an experience that I feel I should share with you - well, they say it's good to talk, so unburdening myself on 700+ strangers must be a good thing, right? (why are you all looking at me in that strange way?) As I walked into college on Saturday through the Embankment Garden, as it's nicer than walking up the Strand. At the top end, just before joining the road I was looking at one of the statues, which always intrigues me - a little mustached head on a plinth with a sorrowful nymph of some kind leaning against the plinth in a distraught fashion, it's the smug expression on his face that gets me - turned round and saw a man sat under a bush, with no trousers on, and, um, pleasuring himself as only men without trousers sat under bushes in the Embankment Gardens can. VERY strange. I mean, he was obviously enjoying himself, from the sound of things, but... I hurried off, because I was worried that he might speak to me (my friend Clare once had a bloke in a similar position say to her "so, d'you like what you see?" - urgh!!!) and then couldn't stop laughing because it seemed so unlikely. Is he a regular fixture? Do the tourist buses point him out? I haven't been back to check. Reminds me of an aunt of mine, who listened to a heavy breather on the phone for a minute or so, then said "Well, if that's the best you can do you're no good to me!" and put the phone down. Fluffy Sarah mentioned Velocette - yes, Get Yourself Together is wonderful, and Spoiled Children isn't quite so great (and I don't like the new one very much, they've sacked their drummer and seem to have forgotten how to P!O!O!). But if you like Get Yourself Together, try Hideaway and Strength by Comet Gain, which (at that time) was Sarah, Sam, Jax and Phil (the aforementioned drummer) from Velocette plus a shouty bloke called David. There was a rather good Peel session too (Velocette, that is) from the same sort of time as Get Yourself Together. Saint Lucy is the platonic ideal to whom we lesser Lucies aspire. Lucy ---------------------- Lucy Munro lucy.munro at kcl.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 12:54:09 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:54:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Slow Graffiti References: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C90676303F4CCB@EDINBURGH> Message-ID: <364ADA71.65A260F2@jeepster.co.uk> Hi everyone, John Stuart wrote: > > >Slow Graffiti is rather gorgeous though isn't it? > >Now that it's finally recorded 'properly'. > > I have to say I was very disappointed in the studio version of Slow > Graffiti. The production on it is terrible, and Stuart hit's a few bad > keys. It also sounds really bad when the band kicks in. I don't know what > everyone else thinks, but I don't think it's the best track to put on a > compilation (it will not get B&S many new fans). I'd much rather listen to > the sessions version. Sorry, I think this is the first time I've ever been > disappointed with something B&S have made. oh, i forgot to tell people that there are actually TWO versions of Slow Graffiti (apart from the sessions versions). The version on "The Acid House" is sans horns, but the version on the "This Is Just A Modern Rock Song" EP is with horns ... ... just for the collectors i 'spose. one day i'll actually post without spouting boring information, sorry to all you who may be interested in what i really have to say ... (ie none of you according the the bloody list crush ... thanks reid for your kind words anyway *sigh* ... not even bloody kitchenboy voted for me ... the wedding is OFF!) bye bye and see lots of you (hopefully) at the Salako gig tonight. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Thu Nov 12 13:54:43 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:54:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Bus stories Message-ID: <364AE8A3.BA348AA0@itl.ca> I've got a little bit of a bus story which is more embarressing than anything else. I'm out for my birthday a few years back and naturally I have more to drink than someone who should be getting wiser as he gets older should have to drink. Needless to say, after, um, purging my system of all the excess alcohol, I'm feeling pretty nasty. Now we're in downtown Toronto at 2AM and the only transport out of town is the Yonge St all-night bus, truly a freak magnet (and affectionately dubbed the 'Vomit Comet'). So yours truly staggers out of the bar and makes it onto the bus, desite the jackhammer hangover that's decided to settle in the back of my skull. I actually get a seat on the bus, and promptly pass out. I wake up about half an hour later with my head on the shoulder of the person next to me, a genial middle-aged gentleman with a beret and overcoat. Seems I'd fallen asleep on my roommate's shoulder, but she'd gotten tired of dealing with me so she shoved my over onto the guy next to me. What a dear girl. Anyways, this fellow was nice enough not to toss me onto the floor of the bus for invading his personal space, and though I'm not sure if I drooled on his coat, I did offer my slurred thanks and apologies before stumbling off the bus hollering, "it's my birthday!". So, that's my story about meeting people on buses. Whee. As for a little Sinister content, I haven't noticed anyone mention the B&S article in the December issue of Select, with the very unfortunate Alanis Morrissette (apologies from Canada for inflicting her on the rest of the world) on the cover. The dodgy cover is made up for by the free CD (featuring Mogwai, Delgados and UNKLE, among others) and the lovely B&S article. I'd actually like a copy of the pencil sketch from the first page of the article. It's nice. Anyways, it's a good article and the silver PVC pants make another appearance! Someone should take Stu shopping... And I'd like to cast a late list crush vote for everyone who didn't get a vote. This is the nicest mailing list I've ever been on, and I'm sure you're all wonderful wonderful people. And I'm not just saying that. I now return to my regularly scheduled lurking routine. Good day. -- Frank Yang "I hope he tells us to burn our pants. These things are killing me." In my CD player: Stereophonics - Word Gets Around -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From mart at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 14:31:43 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:31:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Drunken crooning Message-ID: Sarah the jakey magnet wrote a fab story about a drunk misbehaving on the train to Penrith. Well, a similar thing happened to me at Glasgow Central station (unsurprisingly enough, it's a veritable haven for 'em). There I was, waiting to meet a couple of girls who were coming through from Stirlng to meet me and go to a gig. It was about 5pm on a Saturday afternoon and I decided to wait in the bar. After about ten minutes, I'd attracted the attentions of a Rab C Nesbitt type and his hideous bag lady consort. Every song that came on the jukebox, they insisted on crooning along, and clearly saw me as some kind of party pooper, sitting there reading the NME, looking vaguely sheepish. Of course, they clocked that I quite liked music and wouldn't let it go, saying stuff like, "aaaghh this ish a fucken cracker issnnit you English bassad!" when Celine Dion or somesuch came on the jukebox. Eventually I opted for an 'if you can't beat them, join them' policy and started to join in with the songs (the cold drinks might have been taking an effect at this point). In short, we bonded. I got more drinks in (syrupy lager all round) and at 6 o'clock, the girls I was supposed to be meeting were confronted with the sight of me and two pensionable jakeys slurring along to 'Crying' by Roy Orbison. Needless to say, it was a long night. "All we've done since we got here is drink wine and screw," "What do you suggest?" "Tomorrow let's pray for beer!" Martin Horsfield +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sweaters at xxx.net Thu Nov 12 15:26:29 1998 From: sweaters at xxx.net (Butch Sweaters himself) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:26:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Black Session? Message-ID: <364AFE24.8FB1BC42@dca.net> Hello: Could someone (preferrably in the US) with a good copy of the Black Session please make me a copy? I'd be glad to send you a blank tape and postage. Please resopnd to sweaters at dca.net. THANK YOU. Butch Sweaters -- I thought it would be fun to try photography: http://members.dca.net/sweaters/gallery/one.html +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 15:35:25 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:35:25 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Travis Bickle was a bus driver? Message-ID: My contribution to the bus stories didn't happen to myself, but to my best friend, so though it is a bit umbelievable, I believed her when she told me and so will you... One Friday night my friend,Olga, got the 17 in Madrid to go back home.The driver was suspiciously too young and ummm, interesting,I think according to her version.He didn't look a serious bus driver, and he looked even less serious when he asked my friend if she knew the bus 17 route well enough.She lives just by the last stop and gets the bus every night out, so she is quite an expert, but was quite astonished when the bus driver asked her about it! At first she thought it was a TV show or he was an amateur bus driver, someone who had always wished secretly to drive one ...etc, but the truth was simpler and more boring : he just had to substitute someone who felt sick, and had no clue about the way he had to take,but he just had to do it once because it was the last service that night. So,our kind Olga helped him doing her best as guide, and when they arrived sucessfully at the last stop , the left passengers clapped and cheered both of them,my friend and the driver,as they managed to drive them home carefully and in time.Then , the driver invited my friend to have a bus drive wherever she wanted to,and to share breakfast with him, and she accepted. But it was not the beginning of any romance, sorry for this end of the story! Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kristian.drew at xxx.net Thu Nov 12 15:47:04 1998 From: kristian.drew at xxx.net (Kristian Drew) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:47:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <364B02F8.4C89@virgin.net> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nijones at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 15:45:18 1998 From: nijones at xxx.com (nicholas jones) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:45:18 PST Subject: Sinister: if everyone is on a shoegazing spree i'm off Message-ID: <19981112154518.28226.qmail@hotmail.com> i can't believe that your all going on about shoegazing. well no doubt you already now how i feel about that. sodding slowdive the worst band ever to get a contract ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nijones at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 15:50:39 1998 From: nijones at xxx.com (nicholas jones) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 07:50:39 PST Subject: Sinister: fucking slowdive - i'm off Message-ID: <19981112155040.206.qmail@hotmail.com> shoegazing revival well i think you all know how i feel on that subject. well i think it's time i left. it was nice while it lasted. those mogwai boys were nice though. good band. loved the irony flag on amp like me nicky wire �when power narrows the areas of mans concern, poetry reminds him of the richness and diversity of his existence, when power corrupts, poetry cleans� John F. Kennedy ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Thu Nov 12 15:52:04 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 10:52:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: if everyone is on a shoegazing spree i'm off References: <19981112154518.28226.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <364B0424.2F3AD0DF@itl.ca> nicholas jones wrote: > i can't believe that your all going on about shoegazing. well no doubt > you already now how i feel about that. sodding slowdive the worst band > ever to get a contract Oh boy, lets just wait for Lorraine to tear into him... This is the first genuine flame-bait I've seen on this list. How fascinating. -- Frank Yang Imperial Tobacco Ltd. This space for rent. In my CD player: Belle & Sebastian - The Boy With The Arab Strap -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 16:00:04 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 08:00:04 PST Subject: Sinister: if everyone is on a shoegazing spree i'm off Message-ID: <19981112160004.3777.qmail@hotmail.com> EEEK! what a horrid quote. but no, i won't get into a flame war over this. i don't want everyone to love slowdive anyway, i'd rather just keep them to myself... lorraine >nicholas jones wrote: > >> i can't believe that your all going on about shoegazing. well no doubt >> you already now how i feel about that. sodding slowdive the worst band >> ever to get a contract > >Oh boy, lets just wait for Lorraine to tear into him... >This is the first genuine flame-bait I've seen on this list. How >fascinating. > >-- >Frank Yang >Imperial Tobacco Ltd. >This space for rent. > >In my CD player: Belle & Sebastian - The Boy With The Arab Strap > > ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Thu Nov 12 16:06:07 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:06:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: if everyone is on a shoegazing spree i'm off References: <19981112160004.3777.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <364B076F.C7D448E3@itl.ca> lorelei tremelor wrote: > EEEK! what a horrid quote. but no, i won't get into a flame war > over this. i don't want everyone to love slowdive anyway, i'd > rather just keep them to myself... > Wow - I should have known the people on this list were to nice to engage in an actual flame war. That's what I like about this list, it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy. I have to say though, I always thought the Manic Street Preachers would be nicer than that Nicky Wire fellow... -- Frank Yang Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have. In my CD player: Belle & Sebastian - The Boy With The Arab Strap -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From T.Lilja at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 16:15:00 1998 From: T.Lilja at xxx.uk (T.Lilja at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:15:00 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nicky wire Message-ID: <19981112161340.29491.qmail@amalthea.salford.ac.uk> I can't belive Nicky Wire (If it was him) can complain about boring music after that last album. Im even more puzzled that he likes B&S and computers enough to be on the mailing list. I thought he was busy hoovering. /Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 16:24:46 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:24:46 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Paragraph one = good, paragraph two = evil. Message-ID: <199811121618.QAA29480@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Second posting in a day - Honey won't be pleased, though he seems to have dissapeared so I should be alright. He's managing this list quite well for a stick man. But the point of this was... After none of you offered to do me a Nick Drake tape I set out to look in the proper shops. They all seem to have the same four albums, including one calling itself an introduction or something, with 'blue' in the title. Anyway, I forget which the others were, but the same 4 kept coming up and at 8.99 I can only afford one to start off with, so which would you lot reccomend...? In other news why the hell is that really irritating Cher song at number one? That vocal effect just drives me up the wall. Which fool came up with that? There should be a seperate chart, no, a seperate planet for people who want to listen to music that sounds like sparky the fucking magic piano. Humph, WeeJay XXX James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From T.Lilja at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 16:48:28 1998 From: T.Lilja at xxx.uk (T.Lilja at xxx.uk) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:48:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake Message-ID: <19981112164709.9566.qmail@europa.salford.ac.uk> Hi Id like to recomend "way to blue" the introduction to Nick Drakes wonderful music but on the other hand its the only recurd of his iv heard. Its really good though. I take back what i said about Nicky Wire (from the Manic street preachers) he can slag off any band he likes (or dislikes as it is). /Toby +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Thu Nov 12 16:52:49 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:52:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Paragraph one = Nick Drake In-Reply-To: <199811121618.QAA29480@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Message-ID: On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, WeeJay wrote: > But the point of this was... After none of you offered to do me a > Nick Drake tape I set out to look in the proper shops. They all > seem to have the same four albums, including one calling itself an > introduction or something, with 'blue' in the title. Anyway, I forget > which the others were, but the same 4 kept coming up and at 8.99 > I can only afford one to start off with, so which would you lot > reccomend...? I haven't heard that introductory "blue" album, but I know the other three, and I didn't answer this question the first time you asked it, either... because it's a very very hard choice. More difficult than our ongoing "Sinister"/"Arab Strap" dilemma, even, because there isn't as much of a shift between Nick Drake's albums. I might give a tiny edge of personal preference to "Five Leaves Left," from 1969. But I really don't think you could go wrong with "Pink Moon" or Bryter Layter" either. Maybe someone else will cast a more foreceful vote, sorry... jessica m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stlucy at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 17:03:45 1998 From: stlucy at xxx.com (saint lucy) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:03:45 PST Subject: Sinister: the crying game Message-ID: <19981112170346.18630.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello Sexpots, So this is how a computer works, it's all very exciting. Thank you kind people for my crush votes, it's nice to be know that despite the fact that I've only actually posted once, and for all you know I could have the personality of a trainspotter and the intelligence of a sparrow, some men will always keep their brains in their trousers. Once again, Tag has been dragging my already tarnished name through the mud. Much as I'd like to deny what the little ginger runt has been saying, it's all true. I will not rest until Peter Miller, that conquistador of love, has been notched on my bedpost. He has to be better than John Warrender. It isn't so much his technique, and I could put up with the flatulence and even the cries of "Truck! Train! Tractor" at the crucial moment, but well...I'm all for serenading, but a post-coital rendition of "Sheriff Fatman" on the bagpipes was more indignity than this girl could bear. Anyway, it's been a pleasure. Love, Lucy xxx ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 17:20:40 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:20:40 EST Subject: Sinister: the crying game Message-ID: ------------- Original Text >From Anastasia Signoretta, on 11/12/98 12:20 PM: To: SMTP at WMN001@SERVERS["saint lucy" ] perhaps i'm assuming too much, but... ever notice how all the sinister 'celebrities' have hotmail accounts? everybody's clever nowadays... cheers, stasia (not my real name) --------- >From "saint lucy" , on 11/12/98 12:05 PM: Hello Sexpots, So this is how a computer works, it's all very exciting. Thank you kind people for my crush votes, it's nice to be know that despite the fact that I've only actually posted once, and for all you know I could have the personality of a trainspotter and the intelligence of a sparrow, some men will always keep their brains in their trousers. Once again, Tag has been dragging my already tarnished name through the mud. Much as I'd like to deny what the little ginger runt has been saying, it's all true. I will not rest until Peter Miller, that conquistador of love, has been notched on my bedpost. He has to be better than John Warrender. It isn't so much his technique, and I could put up with the flatulence and even the cries of "Truck! Train! Tractor" at the crucial moment, but well...I'm all for serenading, but a post-coital rendition of "Sheriff Fatman" on the bagpipes was more indignity than this girl could bear. Anyway, it's been a pleasure. Love, Lucy xxx ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Thu Nov 12 17:12:11 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:12:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? Message-ID: <199811121212110550.002E44E6@204.96.36.40> You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple--who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please. Kindly, ...CARMEN... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Thu Nov 12 17:24:22 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:24:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: the crying game In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981112122422.006a8d44@beacon.eastern.edu> Anastasia Signoretta said: >ever notice how all the sinister 'celebrities' have hotmail accounts? It's because celebrities spend so much time out on the road that they need an address they can check from anywhere, you see. I hope you aren't casting aspersions on any lovely sinisterines in implying that these 'celebrities' aren't 100% exactly who they say they are. I'm sure that the only reason i didn't recieve any list-crush votes is because i severely cut back on the frequency of my posts to the list after the Philadelphia Incedent. I had a broken heart to nurse, you see... I'm gonna come back with a vengeance, though, and you'd better all start loving me again. I have a test in a half-hour and i'm not at all prepared, and now you've all got me sitting here talking to YOU instead. What's that all about? Time to go read 'From Many, One: Readings in American Political and Social Thought,' woo. (I can spy on Honey even when i'm reading a dry old book like that, aren't you impressed?) Jessica Foxinasnow "The world is a wonderful place to be born into if you don't mind happiness not always being so very much fun, if you don't mind a touch of hell now and then just when everything is fine" - Lawrence Ferlinghetti Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From micheal_stipe1 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 17:30:38 1998 From: micheal_stipe1 at xxx.com (Micheal Stipe) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 09:30:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981112173038.4762.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Nicky Wire can kiss my ass. Regards, Mike Stipe Lead Singer R.E.M. Athens, GA. _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Delaware9 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 17:38:49 1998 From: Delaware9 at xxx.com (Delaware9 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:38:49 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: Message-ID: Come on! If you're gonna pretend to be a rock star, at least spell yr own name right, "Micheal!" No one is getting a kick out of this... Jess +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SANDRAD at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 17:59:51 1998 From: SANDRAD at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 12:59:51 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? Message-ID: <01BE0E3C.5DEB9760@SANDRA> Without sounding too evil, what exactly is the topic, as you refer to it? Could it be Belle and Sebastian and the people behind it and the music that inspired them and the music that inspires us to share dreams and stories of buses and little things like that that bring people from numerous countries together, relating and possibly getting a more real picture of the world beyond MTV, BBC or CBC? It's always about the music, even the tangents. This is a gentle Canadian chill for you. I suggest you trash what you don't like and let everyone be silly once in a while. That's what I've been doing for months now. Alexandra -----Original Message----- From: Carmen [SMTP:Carmen at xxx.us] Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:12 PM To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple--who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please. Kindly, ..CARMEN... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eyh96 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 12 18:14:50 1998 From: eyh96 at xxx.edu (remaniac) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:14:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Re: stipey In-Reply-To: <19981112173038.4762.rocketmail@send202.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: shouldn't that be michael rather than micheal or have i been mistaken all these years? --emily scratch my name on your arm with a fountain pen (this means you really love me) ... rusholme ruffians +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Thu Nov 12 18:14:23 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:14:23 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? References: <01BE0E3C.5DEB9760@SANDRA> Message-ID: <364B257F.DF7E6B97@itl.ca> What I don't understand is why no one ever discusses the cartoon. I for one actually remember the show - can't remember if I liked it or not, though. I think that I watched it cause it was a cartoon and that was good enough for me. When I told my brother that the Belle & Sebastian show in Toronto was cancelled, he said of course it was - it's a cartoon. More with than I usually give him credit for. So does anyone own a Great Pyreness named Belle? Know a small Swiss boy named Sebastian? Like to romp about in the Alps? -- Frank Yang In my CD player: Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Thu Nov 12 16:51:12 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:51:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Paragraph one = good, paragraph two = evil. Message-ID: <002566BA.005C4E92.00@notes.ericsson.se> Dera Weejay 4 leaves left or is it 5 leaves? I can't remember now but they're all pretty fucking shit hot in a sort of sitting in a dark room feeling the pain so keenly you can't move under it's exquisite and unyielding force. Love Richardxxx P.S. Well that's what it says on the sleeve notes on my copy. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 18:29:17 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:29:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mr Drake Message-ID: 'Way To Blue' is indeed a fine introduction to Nick Drake, though it's worth looking for the best of that came out in the mid-80s, it's got a slightly better selection of songs. If you're buying his albums, bear in mind that 'Pink Moon' is almost totally acoustic (none of those lovely arrangements that you get on 'Bryter Later' and 'Five Leaves Left'. My personal favourites: 'Hazy Jane' (perhaps the only song ever to mention weasels), 'At The Chime Of A City Clock' and 'Northern Skies' (another song that I first heard thanks to Stuart Maconie). PS/Did you know that Nick Drake's sister appeared in the later series' of 'Crossroads'? "All we've done since we got here is drink wine and screw," "What do you suggest?" "Tomorrow let's pray for beer!" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 18:27:35 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 18:27:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Why do bus stories always come in threes? Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E39F@NCMSERVER> Good to see bus stories abounding in the digest these days, although I would say that any general public transport anecdote is worth its weight in travel passes - at least. My favourite bus story is this: Some beautiful people with immaculate make-up are travelling on a bus, when a mad guy pretending to be a ham actor tells them there's a device on board which will make a large bang-like noise if the speed of the bus ever dips below, say, fifty miles per hour. Luckily there's a guy on board who used to be in a band. Using his in-depth knowledge of history, which he acquired while not at military school, he decides the device is bogus, and cunningly defuses it using his huge mental capacity and then slows the bus with his swollen fore-head and some well-delivered quips. Sadly, Sandra Bullock, who for some reason is driving the bus, survives. I thought I might try and get it turned into a film. I'll call it Velocity. --------- I have a quick Monday poem comment: If I ever manage to find it, I shall post what I commonly refer to as Now that's what I call the best poem in the world ever(tm). It's called "A poem which ends with the line 'Vaseline Bert and the slinky ox" and it was written by, erm, me actually last year. I asked my then girlfriend to give me a phrase which would form the last line of a poem, and being twisted that was what she came up with. I duly obliged, and if you're looking for praise for it, all I can tell you is that her father (who is a very respected playwright) said, having read it, that it showed "a love of the language". --------- Weejay was confused and needed help, so he said... But the point of this was... After none of you offered to do me a Nick Drake tape I set out to look in the proper shops. They all seem to have the same four albums, including one calling itself an introduction or something, with 'blue' in the title. Anyway, I forget which the others were, but the same 4 kept coming up and at 8.99 I can only afford one to start off with, so which would you lot reccomend...? If you can't decide, you could always start off with Way to Blue or Heaven in A Wild Flower, two compilations covering the three main albums Pink Moon, Five Leaves Left and Bryter Layter. If you don't want to shell out for either of those two, I'd happily make up a tape for you goddamit, and it'd be better than either. If anyone on the list lives in Birmingham (England), they may just be able to do me a favour...please email me privately if you don't mind spending five minutes in the centre of town just for me. I thank you. Neil Xxxx Xxx Xx x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 18:45:47 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:45:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: one last funny bus story Message-ID: my sister took a bus from philly to NY and it was 5 hours late! (this is a two hour drive we're talking about)... the reason was the bus driver was a substitute who didn't know the route and got lost - really lost. he was driving around in circles. when jess da mess (my sister) and others on the bus tried to give the driver directions, he yelled at them. then when he FINALLY agreed to stop and ask directions, he locked all the people in the bus!! He said "I can't have you all running off now or I'll be in trouble." a rather frazzled today...queenbeejanine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cchaffin at xxx.org Thu Nov 12 18:41:00 1998 From: cchaffin at xxx.org (Christa Chaffinch) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 13:41:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? Message-ID: YES!! I remember the show so well, that is actually why I listened to the band for the first time (oh, I can see that day so clearly)!! Little Sebastian and beautiful Belle, I watched it every day after school- it was on Nickelodeon at 4pm, I believe...? What was the name of the little dog who went around with them on their Alpine Adventures? Or the name of the grandfather character? Oh, wow, this is bringing back memories...but obviously not too many, as I cannot remember the names of any of these characters...hmmmmm.... >>> "Frank Yang" 11/12 1:14 PM >>> What I don't understand is why no one ever discusses the cartoon. I for one actually remember the show - can't remember if I liked it or not, though. I think that I watched it cause it was a cartoon and that was good enough for me. When I told my brother that the Belle & Sebastian show in Toronto was cancelled, he said of course it was - it's a cartoon. More with than I usually give him credit for. So does anyone own a Great Pyreness named Belle? Know a small Swiss boy named Sebastian? Like to romp about in the Alps? -- Frank Yang In my CD player: Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are Floating In Space +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 19:02:00 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:02:00 PST Subject: Sinister: I Understand Message-ID: <19981112190201.27475.qmail@hotmail.com> or do I???.... Well Hello again to all you lovely people!!!! Itsbeen a long long time since my last contribution to the list ...... I think it was about cheese ... but I'm not quite sure.. anyways school out for ...errr.. winter and all that I have to do now is to read some novels and do some assingments , sounds lovely right? nuff boring stuff. Or should I say unimportant.... dear Carmencita , if you are reading this , first of all ; what do want to read about on this list??? and is someone forcing you to read all the mail that comes in or to subscribe to the list???? If you find this list and its listees to be .....not your type (or silly twats or whatever) then maybe you should find yourself someone else to play with I don't mean to be rude , and I am truly sorry if I misinterpreted you , but your letter pissed me off. I personaly like to read about non-B&S things and about "B&S-related things" as well , and I don't think I'm alone when it comes to this. I think you've got the point. and now on a lighter note What is this R.E.M. vs The Manic Beefeaters ?????????? M.Stipe (or whoever you maybe) explain yourself!! Is it miss Love who is the mastermind behind your hideous attack on The Beefeaters ?????? Or is it the lack of Norwegian Brown Cheese ????? one should always carry a decent amont of Brown Cheese when travelling abroad , at least that is what my mother told me... About Nick Drake.. I think Three Trees Turn Left is the best one he has made so far , I really can't see how he can make a better album...... but I also recomend Time For A Quick Reply And now comes the best part of this mail(I hope you are still reading) My Recomandations: Rock : MOTORPSYCHO (their five last albums are EXELLENT !!!!!!!!!) other music : Kruder Dorfmeister : the K&D sessions Miles Davis : Kind Of Blue Lyricist Lounge : vol. uno 2 Lone Swordsmen : Stay Down Ry Cooder (sorta) : Buena Vista Social Club (BRILLIANT) Bob Hund : Martin kannnnnnnnnn Sophia the first one is the best Spain : the blue moods of spain Dead Can Dance :Labirynth K.L.F. :Chill out Stone Roses before '92 Radiohead o.k.comp....I better stop here... sorry if this list is too long , but I just couldn't stop myself ....and one more thing ...... I think Sinister is better th..you know Ciao Szola ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Thu Nov 12 19:06:13 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:06:13 +0100 Subject: Sinister: People Message-ID: <3C231F54E2D@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> Just went through the archives and found out I am the only Austrian on here?! or are there any who are mailing from Accounts like yahoo hotmail or similar????? *just wondering* love vanxxx or at least someone in southern Germany? _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Thu Nov 12 19:58:37 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:58:37 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: The Cartoon Message-ID: and does anyone remember the little white puppy called poochie that always got belle & sebastian in trouble by barking at the wrong time? -wee chi chi (thaian ) xox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vegus at xxx.no Thu Nov 12 20:06:59 1998 From: vegus at xxx.no (Stein Vegusdal) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:06:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Isobel Campbell a.k.a. Chloe Sevigny......! Message-ID: <02c401be0e78$01d8c380$32054382@steinveg> Take a look at the photo on this page: http://www.blairmag.com/sissy/chloe1.html and then the pic on the inside of TWATTYBUS.... Have we all been fooled? We were told that TWATTYBUS was delayed due to Isobels exams, but was it really like that? Wasn't it really because she was filming "Palmetto" at the time? Miss Campbell/Sevigny, you have a lot to answer for. Steinski -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Nov 12 20:31:32 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:31:32 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Wang Dang Doodle? Message-ID: <01be0e7b$6f1a1860$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Warrander John wrote: PS Lo-Fidelity All Stars had single of the week in the NME this week so they can't be shite. I expect you may be able to hear their latest offering at the NME web pages. Thank you, Warrander John, you are very helpful. Belle and Sebastian people are the best! Unfortunately I'm not bloody going, because I can't. It's a long story, mostly to do with prostitutes and drugs. However, I was in town this afternoon ( I say "in town" but it's 45 fucking minutes away) so I thought about doing a Lesley Jo and seeing if the guys would give me a shiny apple during the soundcheck, but I chickened out. Besides, there was record shopping to do. I managed to resist the temptation of Bruce's box and bought Willie Dixon, the blues legend, accompanied by several other blues legends, on "The Chess Box". It was dirty cheap, and sounds fantastic. Some of you may have noticed that I am in fact your back door man. It's got a track called "Weak Brain, Narrow Mind". Brad, please leave Duke alone. He's never done any of us any harm. Has he? Turt, nice to have you back, mate. Mainly because you're a huge Rotary Connection fan. When I first heard that CD I thought, oooh, this is nice, shame about these slow songs..... but after a few listens the slow songs really come into their own as well. All round, one of my better purchases, I think. Believe me I don't half buy some shite at times. Minnie Riperton died of breast cancer, bless her. Up until the other day I didn't realise what a great loss that was. I also miss Deboreah Glasgow and Mary Wells, who I believe died of throat cancer. But there's nothing we can say to take her way from you and me, her guys. Dear me, I must stop listening to these blues legends! How about some bus content? Someone dropped their guts on the bus this evening. It was fucking disgusting. Some of you were talking about Le Mans (the group) and their lack of press coverage. There was a big thing about them in "El Pais" last week. I daresay it's on the website: http://www.elpais.es/tentaciones dated Nov 6. Due to the advances in maodern technology you can automatically translate it, and hey presto shrub shrub. I've never heard them and I haven't read it, so don't blame me if they turn out to be right wing extremists. I doubt it though. Peter Miller (a leading memebr of the gay mafia that is holding Britain to ransom) PS: I've got "Sheriff Fatman". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 21:09:35 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:09:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Brighton meetup Message-ID: <199811122110.VAA18252@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi there, It has been a while since I've written, I too have been sulking for not getting anyone to vote for me as their list crush, but I was glad to see that the other Jake, aka mrjake, managed to pick up a vote, good on you! Any how, back to the matters in hand: The festive meetup in Brighton. I saw there were questions being asked so I thought that I would up date the list on the plans, as they are at present. I think that we are going to move it and make it the 29th December, I'd forgotten that the 28th was a bank holiday so that rather counts it out. And we were going to make it a day thing to continue into the evening for those who wanted. So that is 29th DECEMBER at Brighton. I have yet to finalise the exact meetup venue or time, but i'll leave it pretty open so people can pop in. I'll yet you know when more is decided. And can I also thank Jamie for lending a hand in the organisation. Oh, and can I submit a vote for Katrina as my list crush because she deserves it for keeping us all in the know. (oh and so does David, but I can only vote once, and Davids not my type!) Jake +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From his8jm at xxx.UK Thu Nov 12 21:00:17 1998 From: his8jm at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:00:17 GMT Subject: Sinister: nah is alright guv Message-ID: <21EFF023873@arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Isn't Chloe Sevigny like descended from a French Revolutionary who fought for the rebels in the American War of English versus English, 'constitutung a civil war as regards political theory' ? All together now "God Bless America . . . . +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 21:36:47 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:36:47 EST Subject: Sinister: B&S ON MTV EURO AWARDS Message-ID: <911f05c2.364b54ef@aol.com> WEHEY !!! On the free your mind award a Radio Station one the award for transmitting in the troubles of Serbia. And they played a small 5 second bit on a dj, and he was playing B&S !! WOooOO HOooOOO Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Thu Nov 12 21:42:29 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:42:29 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: A Chicago Bus Story In-Reply-To: <01J41YCGNGY88X09BY@NOTELT.MED.IACNET.COM> Message-ID: I live in Berkeley and take the Bart. Will I ever have an experience like Julie's in San Francisco? Maybe, but the story did remind me of a similar bus ride in Chicago. I first moved to Chicago in 1995 to get my master's degree in Art History at the University of Chicago. For anyone who knows the area, the University of Chicago is on the Southside, quite an interesting neighborhood. Before I knew anything about Chicago transit and my neighborhood (like the fact that it was an extremely bad idea to venture 1 mile in any direction), I used to take the #1 up to the City, via Cottage Grove and lower Michigan Ave. We had an extremely exuberant, funny driver. She would swerve around corners, yell at the drunk old men on the street corners, and greet everyone who boarded with some sort of comment. One day she told me,"You are the only white girl who ever gets on this bus," or something like that. She was funny. During one ride I sat up in front with her and advised her on her love life. She said she was sick of American men and wanted a European boyfriend. I told her she ought to go to more dance clubs. http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu On Wed, 11 Nov 1998 Julie_Smith at iacnet.com wrote: > > Hello children. I have a bus story for you. Anyone who's lived in San > Francisco for a period of time has experienced how horrible our mass transit > (called MUNI) is. After commuting to work for three years, I have many many > stories, some funny and some frustrating. But I'll just tell you an old > favorite. > > One night I was waiting for a bus which is supposed to come every 15 minutes, > but typically takes twice as long. On this particular night, I (and about ten > other people) waited 45 minutes before the bus finally pulled up. During our > wait, we had formed what is called a "MUNI mob"-- a group of strangers that > become bonded in collective anger at how poorly the bus system is run. We > shared bus horror stories and fantasies about blowing up MUNI's central office > and were basically having a grand old time bashing the system. By the time we > got on the tardy bus, we were all friends and amused ourselves by talking > loudly about how things would have to change, how inconvenienced we all were > etc. About fifteen minutes into the journey there was a loud crackle and a > shower of sparks and the bus grounded to a halt. My MUNI mob friends and I > stared at each other in disbelief, realizing that our trip was once again going > to be delayed. But then, one of our number caught sight of another connecting > bus pulling up across the street. "Let's go!" he shouted. We all ran off our > bus and across the street towards the new bus which we now saw was so packed > that people were scrunched together in the aisles. As we got closer, we > realized that the driver was singing into his microphone, in kind of a bluesy > way. He sang, > > " Get on the bus...get on the bus....get on the bus." And then he'd interchange > it with, "You don't need money, you don't need money, you don't need money." > > Once my MUNI mob and I had piled on to the bus which was probably illegally > crowded at this point, the bus driver continued his performance. As the bus > lurched along and we tried to stay on our feet and out of other people's laps > he sang, > > "This is a San Francisco bus, this is a friendly bus, this is a musical bus, > this is a BUS I tell you, this is a LOVE bus," > > at which point someone at the back yells, "If you pack anymore **&%&^& people > in here it really WILL be a love bus." > > The bus driver pauses and then sings, "There's no need to be dirty, there's no > need to be dirty. . . it's a friendly bus . . . . ." > > The End. > > Julie > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xav at xxx.uk Thu Nov 12 21:52:00 1998 From: xav at xxx.uk (Mark Crutch) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:52 +00 Subject: Sinister: E's makin' it up as 'e goes along! Message-ID: <199811122153.VAA05602@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> Well, it looks like I was a bit too late with my master plan to change my name by deed poll to Phillipe (2 Ls, 1 P) in order to get some crush votes from people that can't spell. Maybe next time. A bus story: I was on the top deck of a double decker in Manchester with my ex a few years back, when it approached the bus stop under the bridge by the BBC (the exact location is irrelevant, but I thought anyone familiar with Manc would appreciate the attention to detail). Anyway, sitting in the gutter was a plump, speckled pigeon. Guess where this is heading. "Fly!" we thought, hoping that our brainwaves would cut through the ether and prompt the little boid. As the bus neared, we lost sight of the creature, owing to the fact that we were on the top deck of the bus and the floor was less than transparent. Nevertheless, it seemed that everything was fine: we hadn't felt the bump of pigeon under wheel, nor heard the screams of little-old-lady-spattered0with-pigeon-blood. The bus began to pull away. There was a slight breeze. A flurry of feathers wafted out over Oxford road. We were sad (at least, until we got to Holland & Barrett in the Arndale, and I treated myself to some fine Panda liquorice comfits, mmmmm). In accordance with honey's wishes, no bands listed without good reason: I would therefore like to suggest that you all buy stuff by British indie combo "The Sweeney". Very upbeat, indie-pop in a good way. Great lyrics - more than a little cynical (songs like "Shut Up!" and "Fish Face" - the latter about David Mellor and his ilk). Here's the crunch though; if they got a good festival gig, they'd become big (in the same way Dodgy managed it). ATM they're relatively small fish, despite two great albums (especially the first, "Pop Gun" - high in my top ten of all time greats). A friend of mine spoke to the drummer the other day, and was told that they're thinking of calling it a day if the next EP doesn't sell well. They're a great band (a 3 piece) and this would be a tragic loss to the pop world. So I implore you: check out "Pop Gun" if you can (though you won't find it in most shops), then buy it, then see them live, then tell your chums. Their record company is at www.rotator.com (or maybe .co.uk) if you want to know more. Finally, some smut: I occasionally fantasise about finding a woman who will let me construct a little bastion of Pez bricks around each nipple, only to nibble them off again. Actually I've never fantasised about that, but I think I might start. B&S Content? I sincerely hope they are. Xav -- xav at compsoc.man.ac.uk http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~xav "It hath whirred into life" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JMoorkens at xxx.ie Thu Nov 12 21:54:19 1998 From: JMoorkens at xxx.ie (Joss Moorkens) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:54:19 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the big boys.... are in the butchers Message-ID: ...CARMEN..."Kindly" wrote >Try keeping on the topic, please. And the topic was incidents with buses wasn't it? I'm afraid that my incident didn't actually happen on a bus though. Hope that's okay. Anyways, there I was sitting in work last week, gazing blankly at my computer screen when I suddenly remembered getting hit by a car. The previous saturday I had been stumbling drunkenly towards my house with my anorak hood up when somebody shouted to watch out for a car. Noticing that I was right in the middle of the road, I aimed pathwards, but that canny ol' car had been swerving to avoid me. The car hit me and I rolled off the bonnet and tried to walk on as if nothing had happened. The driver asked if I was okay and I said 'yes, thankyou' while my friends all laughed. For some reason I had forgotten all of this until reading the first 'incident with a bus' story, when it all came flooding back. Pathetic yet amusing, I felt. So anyways, Belle and Sebastian were marvellous in Brussels and a local magazine called Bulletin wrote of how "their trainspotter fans hide in well-worn anoraks and massive sideburns". They meant me! Fame at last. *And* three list crush votes. A 200% improvement on last time. I feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Almost as warm and fuzzy as when I thought Rollercoaster Ride had a line about me in it that went: "you're happy cos your cosy anorak goes 'round your head." But it does not. Turt wrote: >Kool and the Gang. Doesn't the piano bit at the end of Seymour Stein sound like the one from Diana by Kool & the Gang? I thought so. Time I was off, isn't it? Play friendly. love joss xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Iangstl at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 22:08:01 1998 From: Iangstl at xxx.com (Iangstl at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:08:01 EST Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake Message-ID: <6b6b8273.364b5c41@aol.com> I would definitely recommend Five Leaves Left for an intro. Even Time of No Reply is great, well all of drake is great, but was posthumously released stuff. I am suffering through the Drake bio right now. I say suffering since it seems to have taken me close to 70 pages to get through the tales of the happy Nick that was into athletics at posh boys schools to his black clothing clad, hash smoking Cambridge skipping days that seem to have inspired his music more. I understand the book is a very good read; I just have to get beyond the british boys school stuff that I have never understood. I have no bus stories since the only time I have spent away from the Motor City, where everyone drives their living, I had to rely on my own two feet for transport in college. However, once I was pulled over by the cops after drinking many rusty nails. My friend and I was walking at the time, or was that stumbling. The gentle policemen even put on their sirens and lights to impress us as they blocked our path. I had to tell them the directions to my destination and assume responsibility for my friend that was propped on my arm, before he would let us stumble away. So much for cops being there to protect and serve; he could have at least offered us a ride home. - dawn (who is fairly certain I am the only one with the following in her player) NP - Can's Monster Movie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blur245 at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 22:25:52 1998 From: Blur245 at xxx.com (Blur245 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:25:52 EST Subject: Sinister: In Love Message-ID: <4bb93abc.364b6070@aol.com> Hi Fellow Listees. Well I know you are probably all sick of hearing stories of the shows but I had to share mine.I saw B&S in Athens after driving 7hours from Orlando,FL.We stayed in the Scottish Inns outside of Athens(How unusal).We got to the 40 Watt around 5pm to meet some friends at The Engine Room.Instead we met Richard and Neil from B&S and sat down and talked with them.They shared stories about the tour and upcoming singles and The Acid House movie and the scene in which their song is used.They also said they wanted to move to Athens as they loved it there.We ended the conversation discussing about drinking before the show and having a few pints with them,even coning them to stay the night and wait till the next day for D.C. Anyway we went to Wuxtry where I got a cool Sarah records comp and the first Adorable CD.We went back to bar and had a few more pints(I start to slur).We make a pact to kidnap the band for a drinking spree before the show,only to see Isoand Stuart wisked by other indviduals.We then decide to go buy are shirts before they sell out(I bought the Tigermilk one).We go back to the car and put the shirts in and go have one more drink before B&S hit the stage. The 40 watt is a pretty cool venue and packed to capacity.We mingle are way up front and secure are positions,tension was in the air.Out comes Isobell and the crowd erupts.The set was really good the new stuff especially.I had problems with the idiot who screamed "Lazy Line"over and over again(Set list do not allow requests) and the girl who requested "Beautiful" only to have it played and talk all the way through it.The show ended apbruptly after 65 minute set,which left many unhappy. We waited around outside with me losing my ride only to find out they went back in.In I go and there standing in front of me a beautiful sight Isobell(love).I walked up and said hello she looked at me and said hello back.I asked her how her health was and she told me about her flight over here and all about school(15 minute conversation)I even started to call her Izzy as she seemed to like it.She signed my shirt and got Stuart and Chris to sign,telling each of the will you sign this for Simon.After a 30 minute backstage experience they were of I walked her to the bus wishing her good luck.I then said to Richard and said we were on our way(The bars close at 2am it was 2.30am)So on our way back to our rooms for an evening of rest. I was wandering did anyone take some good photos at the show? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Thu Nov 12 22:35:10 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:35:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: ooh, watch it Message-ID: <011d01be0e8c$cb82a660$03000004@n2f9x2> darling listy wisty i am not easily offended, but what upsets me is people telling others what to write, or not to write. Carmen's post wasn't very nice, and inaccurate. It's not as if the topic is so far removed from B&S that we continually talk about australasian sheep farming techniques, or the like. if we talked exclusively about b&S, where would we be? discussions concerned solely with the middle eight of mary jo?, the merits of the slow version of seeing other people?. interesting - yes, but not forever. The point is, the lives and opinions of the listees are frequently more interesting and funny than staying on topic. And who's to say that this isn't the topic anyway? Tear me apart and boil my bones, but being patronising is no way to win friends. But perhaps she doesn't want to. If so, i'd assume that maybe she expects something different from a list. So, my apologies, Carmen, i'm glad you like B&S, but you don't seem interested in the other people who like them too, and surely that is an integral part to this list?. But anyway, chances are she won't read this; there's no b&s content. this is the last time i'm going to be so horrid. alix. c *****yes I KNOW i've been just as patronising, and opinionated. "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' wot carmen sed......... You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple--who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please. Kindly, ...CARMEN... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From oxygen at xxx.edu Thu Nov 12 22:34:25 1998 From: oxygen at xxx.edu (sad tomato) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 14:34:25 -0800 Subject: Sinister: come on feel the noize Message-ID: <199811122234.OAA23551@uclink.berkeley.edu> hey all you berkeley sinister listers....where were you??? i wore my brand-spanking new study at stow shirt yesterday, and not a single person walked up and threw their arms around me, nor did anyone even stare at me strangely. let's make a deal where every time you see someone in a B&S shirt you walk up and introduce yourself. by the way, speaking of excellent music, everyone should got out and give a listen to joan baez. only her earlier stuff. i highly recommend "THE FIRST TEN YEARS" album, if only for the joy that is "sweet sir galahad." plus you get lots of other great songs, and it is a friendly introduction to the sweet-voiced old folkie. you can find it very cheaply on vinyl used, which is a boon to the poorer among us. why joan baez? well, for me it is nostalgia of a sort....reminds me of my childhood, my parents were folkies, you see. the music is very sincere, there are a number of fabulous protest songs, and she sings some bob dylan songs. this is good, because dylan is an excellent songwriter, but he cant sing worth crap. it is good to give his songs to others. her music is very laid-back and smooth, yet filled with emotion. her voice is clear and calm. well, that is all i can think of to say. bye. robin. am i talking too fast or are you just playing dumb if you want i can write it down +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Thu Nov 12 22:36:15 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:36:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Re: Hi Heather In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks Martin! I said that I didn't want a reply, but I guess I was sort of secretly hoping for one. Yeah, I'm truly enamoured by Roxy Music, and it's not a sex symbol thing, I just think they're extremely talented and evocative. As for Scott Walker, I have heard that he was one of the single most influential artists for Bryan Ferry, but Jarvis too, wow - I will try your suggestions. I think I saw the "Best of" CD you mention, is it gray? I'm with you, if I see a "best of" collection, I'm all over it. More music for the money! Actually, lately I've been married to my MP3 player, there's some really good stuff out there. Thanks for welcoming me. Ciao, http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu On Thu, 12 Nov 1998, Martin Horsfield wrote: > Firstly I just thought I'd welcome you, because I was so pleased when > someone said 'hello' to me after joining the list. Pleased to see you've > bought '...Sinister'. It's the best of the two B&S albums I'be heard > (you might have gathered that their first 'Tigermilk' is a mite dificult > to get hold of, though someone on the list is meant to be taping me > one). > > Good to see you like Roxy Music too - a damned underrated band, at least > here in Britain. I've only got a realy old 'Best Of'. My favourite songs > are 'Editions of You' (great to dance to) and 'Mother of Pearl' (a > massive influence on Suede, I'd say), along with the old classics. > > As for Scott Walker, it's reckoned that 'Scott 4' is his best (hence the > British band of the same name). I think it's the one with 'Boychild' on > it - all very camp and flamboyant and much loved by a certain J. Cocker. > Myself, I've just got 'No Regrets: The Best of Scott Walker and The > Walker Brothers'. It is absolutely amazing, especially 'Montague Terrace > In Blue'. I'm not a musical snob. If a band's best songs are on their > 'best of', then buy the best of, I say. > > Anyway, enjoy life on the list > > > "All we've done since we got here is drink wine and screw," > "What do you suggest?" > "Tomorrow let's pray for beer!" > > Martin Horsfield > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Thu Nov 12 22:54:58 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:54:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S fashion wear In-Reply-To: <199811122234.OAA23551@uclink.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981112175458.0069d0f0@beacon.eastern.edu> the sad tomato suggested: >let's make a deal where every time you see someone in a B&S >shirt you walk up and introduce yourself. If i ever saw someone wearing a Belle and Sebastian t-shirt, i would probably cover them with hugs and kisses just out of the excitement of finally chancing upon someone who found Belle and Sebastian fashionable. Actually, i'd probably be too shy, but i'd for SURE say hello and compliment them on their shirt. Maybe if they sent properly reassuring signals, i'd cover them with hugs and kisses after i finished my awkward introduction. Every time i wear my Study at Stow t-shirt (which, in fact, Goon, is a little bit too big for me, so it's a good thing i got that M and not a L!), i feel this overwhelming sense of potentiality. At any minute my ordinary day could turn extraordinary as someone stops me on the street and covers me with hugs and kisses. Unfortunately, though, it never happens, and i keep having people ask me, "Study at Stow, what's that?" One friend of mine who is acquainted with B&S thought "Study at Stow With Belle And Sebastian" was a tour shirt and that B&S was supposed to have opened for a band called Study at Stow in Philadelphia. Then i feel somewhat obsessive when i have to give the history of Tigermilk and Electric Honey Records in order to explain what, up until then, had been an excitingly cute shirt. That didn't stop me from wearing my Study at Stow shirt three days in a row the other weekend. (Don't look at me like that! I wore it on top of a different long-sleeved shirt each time, and i always smelled it to make sure it was clean! Oh pish, you'd do the same thing if YOU had a brand-new baby-blue Study at Stow t-shirt, too, admit it.) Love, Jessica Foxinasnow "The world is a wonderful place to be born into if you don't mind happiness not always being so very much fun, if you don't mind a touch of hell now and then just when everything is fine" - Lawrence Ferlinghetti Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From achan at xxx.com Thu Nov 12 23:01:31 1998 From: achan at xxx.com (Arthur Chan) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 15:01:31 -0800 Subject: Sinister: B&S fashion wear -Reply Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From escossia at xxx.br Thu Nov 12 22:04:20 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 20:04:20 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Life is boring. Message-ID: <01be0e88$66746dc0$f07defc8@default> I worked all day. After that i went to a record shop called Verso I saw 4 "The boy with the Arab Strap" Cds there. [B&S connection 1] A friend of mine bought Rialto and Divine Comedy album. I bought Divine Comedy, but i need to listen to "Fin de Siecle" more times cause did not like it. Poor Neil Hannon. [I did not like Rialto album..After Belle and Sebastian ALL the bands are crap..but i will give Rialto a chance sameday because i am a good guy] A WONDERFUL girl was looking for a My Bloody Valentine Cd. [shoes connection 1] And she knows Belle And Sebastian. [B&S connection 2] WOW !!!! Boring Day... Boring Divine Comedy's Cd. Boring mail Wonderful B&S list [B&S connection 3] Beautiful "My Bloddy Valentine girl" [shoes connection 2] Hey.. I know OUR David K. He has a NICE Suede T-shirt. :o) Ivo A P Escossia escossia at electus.com.br Sonar E-zine http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1389/ Think about it http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Stadium/1389/Matthew.htm +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Alan.Holding at xxx.fr Fri Nov 13 00:13:46 1998 From: Alan.Holding at xxx.fr (Alan.Holding) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 01:13:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? Message-ID: <004301be0e9a$8d5eb820$47118aa4@none.wanadoo.fr> Is it too late for the list crush votes? Alan -----Message d'origine----- De : Sandra Duric À : 'Carmen' ; sinister at majordomo.net Cc : 'cmarcoux at mcgill.com' Date : jeudi 12 novembre 1998 19:39 Objet : RE: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? Without sounding too evil, what exactly is the topic, as you refer to it? Could it be Belle and Sebastian and the people behind it and the music that inspired them and the music that inspires us to share dreams and stories of buses and little things like that that bring people from numerous countries together, relating and possibly getting a more real picture of the world beyond MTV, BBC or CBC? It's always about the music, even the tangents. This is a gentle Canadian chill for you. I suggest you trash what you don't like and let everyone be silly once in a while. That's what I've been doing for months now. Alexandra +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 00:18:45 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 00:18:45 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Early Morning By The Harbour Message-ID: <000201be0e9b$2d57c880$04e393c3@whelan> Hi All, Kevan "Big-Boy" Cooke wrote.... "The (now officially) gorgeous Fluffy insinuated that I may have voted for her as a result of roses changing hands in Sinister chat. As she well knows my vote was placed solely on the basis of her retracting a statement she had previously made pertaining to my smelling of wee." I wouldn't worry, she's tells everyone they smell of wee, except me. Apparently, I'm a smellhead..... or a smellybelly, depending on what sort of mood she's in I suppose. Gary, I'd love to join you in the car park, but I'm a lover not a fighter. And besides, nothing scares me more than the thought of a red mullet. Please... I've not had the mullet for 13 years, come on, I do have some sense you know. Besides, I only wanted you all to help me fix the puncture on my car, no violence is necessary. 87) Then Senor Miller wrote... "Gary, was your mullet ginger?" Oh now come on, this was when I was a school boy in the mid eighties. Of course it wasn't ginger then. I dyed it half luminous green and half luminous red to match my socks. 87) Brad the arse wrote.... "to the guy that wants to take me outside and fight: c'mon, but i fight dirty....real dirty. pulling hair, smashing bottles, kissing you full on the lips when you least expect it, pinching your ass, grabbing your cockles, tonguing your ear, licking your choad....you don't wanna mess with me, pal. i'll fuck you up." Oh OK then, you've talked me into it, you could at least buy me a drink first though you cheap bastard. What kind of a boy do you think I am ?. 87) The John Jackson JJ wrote... "AND I also bought 'Junk Culture' and 'Dazzle Ships' by OMD. The latter is a most amazing album, commercial suicide you'd think...anyone one how it fared when it came out? (1983 I think). One 'song' consists of submarine noises followed by a klaxxon. Groovy baby groovy." I think it was a big flop, Genetic Engineering was quite a bit hit single... Telegraph wasn't though. Which is a shame, cos I like Telegraph, so it's a bit silly, I still like it. They only made a record like that, cos the music press kept asking them to stop writing songs about people who'd been dead for 500 years. I mean two songs about Joan of Arc on the same album, that's taking the piss a bit. So they went from selling lorry loads of top notch Electro pop to bargain bin hell in one step. Just goes to show you shouldn't listen to music journalists.... Hey Tag ?. 87) For top quality OMD entertainment though, you have to get the videos...... Oh dear. Byyyyyeeeeeeee Gary "This cycle is not constructed to carry a passenger". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 00:20:26 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 00:20:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Early Morning By The Harbour Message-ID: <000501be0e9b$6961f620$04e393c3@whelan> Hi All, Kevan "Big-Boy" Cooke wrote.... "The (now officially) gorgeous Fluffy insinuated that I may have voted for her as a result of roses changing hands in Sinister chat. As she well knows my vote was placed solely on the basis of her retracting a statement she had previously made pertaining to my smelling of wee." I wouldn't worry, she's tells everyone they smell of wee, except me. Apparently, I'm a smellhead..... or a smellybelly, depending on what sort of mood she's in I suppose. Gary, I'd love to join you in the car park, but I'm a lover not a fighter. And besides, nothing scares me more than the thought of a red mullet. Please... I've not had the mullet for 13 years, come on, I do have some sense you know. Besides, I only wanted you all to help me fix the puncture on my car, no violence is necessary. 87) Then Senor Miller wrote... "Gary, was your mullet ginger?" Oh now come on, this was when I was a school boy in the mid eighties. Of course it wasn't ginger then. I dyed it half luminous green and half luminous red to match my socks. 87) Brad the arse wrote.... "to the guy that wants to take me outside and fight: c'mon, but i fight dirty....real dirty. pulling hair, smashing bottles, kissing you full on the lips when you least expect it, pinching your ass, grabbing your cockles, tonguing your ear, licking your choad....you don't wanna mess with me, pal. i'll fuck you up." Oh OK then, you've talked me into it, you could at least buy me a drink first though you cheap bastard. What kind of a boy do you think I am ?. 87) The John Jackson JJ wrote... "AND I also bought 'Junk Culture' and 'Dazzle Ships' by OMD. The latter is a most amazing album, commercial suicide you'd think...anyone one how it fared when it came out? (1983 I think). One 'song' consists of submarine noises followed by a klaxxon. Groovy baby groovy." I think it was a big flop, Genetic Engineering was quite a bit hit single... Telegraph wasn't though. Which is a shame, cos I like Telegraph, so it's a bit silly, I still like it. They only made a record like that, cos the music press kept asking them to stop writing songs about people who'd been dead for 500 years. I mean two songs about Joan of Arc on the same album, that's taking the piss a bit. So they went from selling lorry loads of top notch Electro pop to bargain bin hell in one step. Just goes to show you shouldn't listen to music journalists.... Hey Tag ?. 87) For top quality OMD entertainment though, you have to get the videos...... Oh dear. Byyyyyeeeeeeee Gary "This cycle is not constructed to carry a passenger". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 01:11:50 1998 From: ian at xxx.com (Ian Connelly) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 17:11:50 -0800 Subject: Sinister: NY show review, g(u)it me away from here Message-ID: http://www.netspace.org/indy/current/arts3.html (beginning graph below....hmm, mentions of cardigans? must've been written by someone on this list!) also, i've been trying to destroy my delicate fingers on a friend's guitar again...and discovered this tab for _she's losing it_ (below). to be blunt, it strikes me as totally wrong. any of you amateur satrianis have a second opinion? (mine is that it's Am, D, E7) http://www.saturnet.net/olga/main/b/belle_and_sebastian/shes_losing_it.crd la la la later, ian (who's wearing a black cardigan today and was actually asked by zealous co-workers to wear a red one to work tomorrow) ( NP: sebadoh _the sebadoh_ ) (the article starts out like this....) Wee Belles Belle and Sebastian play the Supper Club, November 1st (by Dan Shindell) Upon entering New York City's Supper Club, I knew something had gone horribly wrong. I had forgotten something. The tickets, perhaps? No. The valet ticket? Uh-uh. Wait a minute: a Belle and Sebastian concert and me without my cardigan and wayfares. This was going to be like that day in the third grade when I wore purple on a Thursday... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Fri Nov 13 00:14:34 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:14:34 -0200 Subject: Sinister: B&S fashion wear (hugs and kisses mail) Message-ID: <01be0e9a$977c22c0$0100007f@localhost> Jessica Gockley wrote: >If i ever saw someone wearing a Belle and Sebastian t-shirt, i would >probably cover them with hugs and kisses just out of the excitement of >finally chancing upon someone who found Belle and Sebastian fashionable. >At any minute my ordinary >day could turn extraordinary as someone stops me on the street and covers >me with hugs and kisses. All we need is love. Are we Happy ? I was talking about it [with a friend] last week. A Smiths' fan can be happy. A Belle and Sebastian's fan can be happy. But i do not know ANY My Bloody Valentine's fan happy and i DO know 1000 of them. I wonder why :o) I will burn my MBV's Cds tomorrow. but now i need to wash some T-Shirts and some white Briefs. Do you prefer Paul or Lennon ? I prefer Paul. Ivo A P Escossia escossia at electus.com.br Ps: I know a Front 242's fan Happy...MY GOD !!!!!! NP: The Lucksmiths : Punchlines [this song reminds me Housemartins] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 02:42:04 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:42:04 EST Subject: Sinister: i'm your number one fan. Message-ID: hi there! i was dissapointed that the polls for the listee crush closed so early! i have a crush, but i didn't get the chance to post it. do i dare reveal it now? that way i will be the first one to "fess up" in front of all the sinisterites including my crush? ummm don't know... maybe i will say who it is next time! someone mentioned that they knew what the girl (isobel) is reciting during "i could be dreaming" is it from c.s. lewis? i can't remember. can someone shed light on this for me? also, i am looking for someone to tape for me the few songs like "loneliness of a middle-distance runner" that still remain unreleased! if anyone out there is interested, i can send a black tape to you and pay the postage for you to send it back to me! i don't have any special sessions to record in return, sorry! :( that is it for now, i have something special to post in my next e-mail! :) the gushing infactuated one, jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 04:18:25 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:18:25 EST Subject: Sinister: my special surprise! Message-ID: <108e79c2.364bb311@aol.com> hi there! i thought i would include a copy of my review of the show in chicago. i wrote this for an local LA music and film newspaper that is written by uni students and recent alumni. it has a distribution of over 105,000 readers in the southern california region. most of the readers have no idea who belle and sebastian are. keep that in mind while reading it! enjoy! :) Belle And Sebastian at the Metro in Chicago. -Jennifer Hjelm I flew to Chicago to catch a glimpse of my favorite band since they were only touring the East Coast. After the cancellation of two earlier shows in Philadelphia and Toronto due to illness, I feared I would miss my chance to see them live. Thankfully my prayers were answered and the band miraculously showed up on stage at the 1,100 capacity venue. The packed venue proved to be a tight fit for the band and the "cool indie kid" audience. I don’t know how the eight members even fit on the tiny stage, but they flowed gracefully around it between songs. The players kept trading off instruments proving their prowess on each one. Stuart Murdoch, the band visionary, started the set with "Century of Fakers" off an old EP, then moved to the unreleased "I Know Where The Summer Goes." This mini-American tour was more of an introduction to the band than a proper promotional tour. The set list spanned their three year career excluding their elusive debut Tigermilk. Chronicled as one of the best bands of the last few years, Belle and Sebastian like to keep to themselves. They rarely tour, conduct only a few interviews, and don’t do photo shoots. So when I got the chance to see them live, I jumped on it and flew to the nearest venue, albeit 2000 miles away. The crowd was thrilled to see the band and thankful Isobel (the cellist) was well enough to play. Every song including the six unreleased ones were well received, although Murdoch fretted that they played "too many" new songs. Highlights included "Chickfactor" which is penned and sung by guitarist Stevie Jackson. The duet "Lazy Line Painter Jane" proved that the band can actually rock out if they choose. Strong guitars, along with Murdoch’s voice raised above his somber speaking tone, proved the band to be more than an octet Simon and Garfunkel. The new song "Slow Graffiti" which is on the soundtrack for the movie Acid House, was absolutely stunning live. Belle and Sebastian are as wonderful as it is to hear the sound of their name roll off your tongue. The intricate instrumental details that most bands leave out are the mainstay of their uniqueness. I am completely enamored with this band; their angelic soft spoken songs, perfect melodies and the unassuming character of the band make you almost believe that they were sent down from heaven, via Glasgow, Scotland. Belle and Sebastian will release the four track EP "This Is Just A Modern Rock Song" on Dec. 7th. They will be playing the West Coast in the new year. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 04:29:55 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:29:55 EST Subject: Sinister: higgledy pig writes with his pig pen Message-ID: <2676c3a4.364bb5c3@aol.com> hello all, i'm a little sad about not getting any crush votes at all, but i've been able to console myself by playing my flute and curling up in a ball, rocking back and forth with tears running down my red cheeks. but no worries, the karma will get you soon enough. the christmas music started at my work today. there must be some statistics documenting the rise in violent homicides during this festive time of year. i'm a little irritated about being stuck with this canadian accent - nobody thinks it's cute, except for americans ("can you say 'abooot' again?!"), and in the meantime everyone is all gushy over girls with british accents. i understand it isn't your fault, but could you possibly try to come across as a little less sweet and adorable? really, even in your emails, all you brits just make everyone want to hug you and give you lollipops. poo. i can't believe it's november 12 and there's no snow in toronto. i remember one year it was october 6 when we had the first real snow, when it actually stayed on the ground and you could make snowballs. i have a coat that i love, actually i have a few but my ice princess coat is really great, it's sheepskin and is three quarter length and has sheep fur on the inside and suede on the outside, and the collar has sheepfur all over it and so do the cuffs. apparently, i glow when i wear it, which suits me just fine. maybe if i send a picture of me wearing that to the list, i could be someone's crush. because really, i'm quite sassy. and polite, too. thank you. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From withnail67 at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 05:14:08 1998 From: withnail67 at xxx.com (Stephen Boyle) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 21:14:08 PST Subject: Sinister: divine comedy Message-ID: <19981113051408.9337.qmail@hotmail.com> Any fans out there, any info on NYC tour plans for new cd. Help. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 05:36:52 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 00:36:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S fashion wear References: <3.0.1.32.19981112175458.0069d0f0@beacon.eastern.edu> Message-ID: <364BC56B.4C3@javanet.com> <<>> yah same here, i go into the kind of anoying funkier than thou coffeeshop in northampton (the american version) and stratigically place myself in the warm part so i cna take off my jacket or fuzzy shirt and bare my sinister shirt (i dont look good in baby blue), last time i sat up tall (as tall as i get) and put my book on the table so that any girl who would fall madly in love with me for my taste in music would be able to see my shirt but nobody said anything today i did the same thing with my lap top positioning it so my shirt was visible and nothing maybe im not an approachable person, is it the pink fuzzy ear phones, the distressed expression on my face, the staring, or my mouthing the words to whatever im listening to...hmm anyway...blah ----Ev np-Game Theory-Real Nighttime +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 06:53:15 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 22:53:15 PST Subject: Sinister: thanks Message-ID: <19981113065315.27580.qmail@hotmail.com> yo ho's and tricks, thanks for the recomendation on the mercury rev album. it's everything you guys said it would be. we should all start a credics magazine for music. hell, something to make a lil' money off this list, my bitches ain't been sellin'(brad). aren't most of you tired of work, damn, there's 800 of us, let's put our heads together and start the biggest escort service ever!!!!!! or a nice little bagel shop. robbie....aka "big poppa" ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimmybryant at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 08:15:48 1998 From: jimmybryant at xxx.com (jimmy bryant) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 03:15:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Is it wicked not to care? Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981113031548.007681c0@pop.mindspring.com> in other words, is apathy immoral? that is what I think about jimmy thin_king it's not fun to watch the rust grow +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 08:43:09 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:43:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The Good Sex Guide Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B004261EA@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> That Saint Lucy's a bit of a kiss and tell: >He has to be better than John Warrender. It isn't so much his >technique, and I could put up with the flatulence and even the >cries of "Truck! Train! Tractor" at the crucial moment, but >well...I'm all for serenading, but a post-coital rendition of >"Sheriff Fatman" on the bagpipes was more indignity than this >girl could bear. Fancy that. I've had some rumpy-pumpy between the sheets with that Lucy doll. I swear I can't remember a thing about it, but she's so in-touch with my "bedroom etiquette" I guess it must be true. Anyway, some of you older-fashioned guys out there (I have a feeling we're harbouring a few sixties throwbacks round these parts) may be wondering why I go to so much trouble to show a lady a good time. Well, this may come as a bit of a revelation, but get this, women enjoy sex!!! I was shocked when I found this out. Even stunned. That "organism" thing they talk about isn't mythical either. They come in pairs and apparently they feel quite good. So all you hot shot young things just better shape up or lose out. The 21st century is only 413 days away. Now off and multiply ya heathens, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Fri Nov 13 11:34:57 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 03:34:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Eerie happenings round here......... Message-ID: <003501be0ef9$a4bc4500$3011020a@rebelstrange> May I draw your attention to a splendid portrait of Mad Dog Murdoch on the Mummy page? It was done by my lovely wife, as a tribute to Lesley Jo's adventures in Washington DC. -and i'd like to thank her for so many moment's of Joy it brought to me when i looked upon it!!! poor dear stu is so accurately depicted in his demeanor and sweetness of nature, i feared that the artist was telepathically delving into my own memory somehow.....eerie indeed! Gabba gabba hey, Love tag xxx ......Hmm and HOW ON EARTH did a certain tag manage to STEAL my intended sign-off phrase, before i had even gotten to use it!!??? the Hell!?!? have i entered the twilight zone? John said and sorted everything out. He was a bit pissed off that I wouldn't let him have his go during our Wednesday night Chorlton lesbians bum games. Especially since I'd .........Lesbians bum games? as a so-called Lesbian, may I actually ask what those might be? or do i really want to know??????......... big hugs to all the kind folks what offered to make tapes for a poor little girl, you're all so very sweet and deserving of a shiny apple of your own(s) i greatly enjoyed the psychoanalytical/mythical narration of the Hurley/Judy horse archetypal story as a progression in the work of a certain Mr. Murdoch. it was quite fascinating.. I would love to hear more. and dont' be surprised if one day i return the favor...as soon as i find some songs worth analyzing in kind......god i love overintellectualizing silly art! (no im' just kidding, it's not silly at all...) and in the same vein, i'm a girl who dreams constantly of horses. usually either a black or a white horse. the black horse was usually wild and threatening as one more aspect of my 'black animals" as specter of feared sexuality/instinct/repressed anger. as i learned to deal with these issues the fierce animal dreams died down. but for me dreams of riding horses are a desire for freedom as wel as mastery over your physical nature---riding the beast so to speak, and not to mention the fact that a horse is a perfect substitute for what we are taught we must receive from men--physical strength, protection, virilty so to speak. who needs a man for that, a horse is much better and doesnt' make nasty jokes about you to its friends. (i would mucj rather have a female horse however....) but i digress. I love horses and i love Judy as well and i'll ride with her and Lisa and Chelsea any day, as well as Jo and Phil. I realized that "We Rule the School" is actually another variation on Pachelbel's Canon. Hmmm??? Tigermilk may be my favorite, but i can't make judgement as yet. sinister is still very good. twattybus is good but has its spotty moments in comparison to the others (what a standard to live up to no less!!) the EPS if they were an album squished together, would be equal to any of them....... thank you Jess, for making us laugh about love, again. and thank you Isobel, for buxom fun... *PHWOARR!!* wait till you all see my izzy pictures from the show......i just had to get inmy daily phwoar early this wee of the dawn. anda quote now from the world's most self consciously and puzzlingly moronic rag, Spin..........i picked up an ish today so i could cut out stuff for my graphicdesign assignment. spin is good to cut up, not usually good for much more....... "what does all this prove? Belle and Sebastian are wimps, and proud of it." Amen to that, yea!! not to be bested, Gabba gabba hey, Davey Crockett!!! what you got in your pocket? you got a big furry tail, hangin down your back!! Davey Crockett, who's that girl in your locket? you got a big Bowie Knife, to take her life/ Gabba gabba hey!!! ("showoff!!") lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sburon at xxx.fr Fri Nov 13 09:21:59 1998 From: sburon at xxx.fr (Stephane Buron) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:21:59 +0200 Subject: Sinister: A lovely night in Paris References: <108e79c2.364bb311@aol.com> Message-ID: <364BFA36.1530@club-internet.fr> Hi list... I had the privilege to see Stephen Pastel and Katrina dj-ing in a club, in Paris last night. Their selection was great and it reminded me of the B&S parties after the gigs in Manchester and in Nottingham : 60s stuff, R'n'B, electronica and... (not only to show that this message is not off topic) "A Century of Fakers". It was the first time we had heard this song in this club and it was rather delicious. There were not many of us who danced, and yet it was a fantastic moment... Do you know whether the Pastels still organize their parties in Glasgow on the friday night, at the 13th note? If yes, I'll go to glasgow asap!!!! By the way, if one of the listees has the opportunity to meet Stephen Pastel in his record store, dont hesitate to congratulate him and to say this party in Paris was great!!! Take Care Stephane -- Visitez le Tweeclub sur http://www.chez.com/tweeclub "I had a job in an office once, I never talked to anyone..." Belle and Sebastian, Pocketbook Angel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 10:38:52 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:38:52 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: A pair of shoes and a key please Message-ID: I was on a bus the other day and the driver got a call on the radio asking if he could do an extra shift because "one of our drivers has driven off in his bus and we don't know where he is". Maybe he'd just driven home for dinner, and a spot of nookie with the wife, forgetting that he was still driving a double-decker. Well at least a bus on his drive will impress the neighbours. It beats Mrs Cooper's begonias at number 42. I've been horribly ill recently and I've missed a lot so I can't really understand half of what's going on, but this bus theme's great. I know it's a bit early but has anyone got any ideas for Christmas presents? I don't want to have to give my sister a lump of coal again. Bye Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Fri Nov 13 12:51:53 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 04:51:53 -0800 Subject: Sinister: In All Their Glory!!! Be There LIVE!!!!! Message-ID: <000501be0f04$64824f60$3311020a@rebelstrange> yo all mack daddys on the sinister tip, me again, writing to inform you that in these very wee hours i have just finished (sic) construction (basic that is) on the pages of DC jpg's from our little adventure. there should be a few more up within days, as i have been twiddling in the darkroom to salvage those very dark negatives, which is a atask for me, as i'm a total beginner at this stuff, but i managed to make out some more.....not all professional, but i do have one photo of the rehearsal, it's sorta not great but you can see them......i didn't use flash during the show as i felt it would b eunsettling to be playing cello in your own little dream world and suddenly have some lardy ecstatic girl with your name around her neck start exploding bulbs in your face, and i was in fear of isobel's possible terrible seething rage that i am sure she has latent within that alabaster exterior and placid features...i digress. the page is as well as i could make it now, it looks ok, but i am having monitor color problems--so if anyone notices the color of the fonts is somehow unreadable, or anything is amiss, please let me knwo so i can deal with it if i can.....i just hope that you like the pictures, i think some of them are really really good myself.....and im very happy with them, it was a dream come true that i was able to capture the evening in such a way..... and you can see how sweet stuart looked when indeed he handed us the shy and shiny apple, he's smiling so kindly, i think anyone's mother would be proud to have him brought home to her, dont 'you agree? and the isobel.......no comment needed!! link: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4967/bs.html please enjoy with my regards and tell me what you think of my labor she thought it would be fun to try photography lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From hammers at xxx.de Fri Nov 13 11:12:40 1998 From: hammers at xxx.de (Stephan Hammer) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:12:40 +0100 (MET) Subject: Sinister: Black session and tigermilk free - 4th update Message-ID: Hi all, Lots of news for you. First of all, i am sorry to announce that from now on I cannot take new request for tapes, since I have close to 50 tapes to make and it just blows my finances (especially postage for the US people is 7 bucks a piece + the costs for the tape). However, everyone who has mailed me so far will get his/her tape. For all those who have not yet made their donations, here are the news: US-people: I finally got the account number for PLAN US. Please make sure it's for Honduras. Here's the message I got from them: # Childreach, US member of PLAN International # BankBoston, N.A. # One Bank of Boston Plaza # Providence, RI 02903 # Routing transit # 011000390 # To further credit: # Childreach USA Special Gift Account # Acct# 094 59418 # # To assist us in processing the contribution, and to comply with US tax # laws # that require all donors to receive a year end contribution statement, it # is # important that we receive the names, addresses and amount contributed # for each individual donor for the UK people I got another way to make your donation from somebody on the list (sorry, I can't find your mail right now): # Alternatively, you can pledge credit card donations by calling the # Disasters Emergency Committee hurricane appeal on # (from UK) 0990 222233 Ok, and here's one thing, that is more important for myself: Jamie offered to make and post the tapes for 5 people in the UK herself once she got her's. I have to say I gladly accepted her offer. To make sure the quality does not suffer too much I will use a high end tape for that. Now, since the cost for the US are cosiderably higher than in Europe, I certainly would like people over there to do that, as well. The advantages for you are 1. you get the tape asap and 2. you get the copy on a very good tape. I'll give you the addresses of 5 other people and youd have to copy and post them. PLEASE, if you volunteer, make sure you have a good stereo at home, not just one you got 10 years ago for 100 bucks- the others want a good copy! Ok, that was a lot, but I think that will be all. All your questions should have been answered in the updates. I got about 15 tapes done and will send them as soon as I can. Thnaks again for all of you who gave so plenty and freely. Stephan -------------------------------------------------------------- There are people going hungry Far away They've got nothing on their plates And you're feeling your fat face With every single bite of cake (B&S: Century of Fakers) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 11:14:25 1998 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 03:14:25 PST Subject: Sinister: B&S here in Australia? Message-ID: <19981113111426.3697.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey sinisterines:) My exams are over HUZZAH! Now it's time for three months of summer (as it is over here in Australia) No I hope I won't spent the whole "summer wasting" just a teensy part of it:) but down to important business, Perth, Western Australia has been slowly been rising in recognition by the alternative/indie scene and finally after a years of a drought of decent bands we're finally getting bands like Radiohead, Portishead, Teenage Fanclub and Beasties! And for all those Cat Power fans out there, she's coming HERE! to the Mudslinger festival!!! Which is practically on my doorstep!!! I couldn't be happier. Everyone's rantings about the lovely Cat Power have intrigued me so much I can't wait to hear her. Dear listees, I have written to David Kitchen TWICE already and though I know it's a terribly ridiculous thought only to be entertained by foolish dreamers like moi, I would like to know about the very very remote possibility of the magnificent B&S gracing our shores. Yeah i know, pretty silly idea huh? but a boy can dream And I would like an answer either from David or the wonderful Katrina about this. Even if it is "no, don't be silly" but an answer would be appreciated. B&S are most definitely growing in popularity over here due to frequent airplay on the alternative radio shows and buzzes from London and various mags. So B&S if you're reading this (or Katrina and David for that matter) don't ignore your SOuthern Hemisphere constituency! I'm sure there are a few aussie fans on the B&S mailing list who would wish for it like moi! anyone feel free to write to moi (esp those in the know!) seeya later lovelies Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Fri Nov 13 11:37:17 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:37:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: you're too shy shy Message-ID: <364C19ED.4F1B@earthlink.net> no no no no no you got me all wrong i wasn't being serious when i said what i said about the duke of P!O!O!P! it was just a horrible attempt at comedy. if i was gonna talk about him i'd start up a biff bang pow mailing list and lure him into my wicked lair of humiliation....cause we all know he'd join. as would some of you. now on to more pressing matters. i forgot what i was gonna say. hmmmm. well, tonight at work some guy called up and told me he had just poisoned thirty seven people along with himself and he could feel the rigor mortis crawling up his leg and he wanted me to call channel 33 and have them come over to his hospital room right away so he could warn everyone he poisoned. then what sounded like an orderly in the background told him to "hang up the fucking phone, charlie" so if dreams about horses are about sex, what are dreams about shaved goats and fingernail clippings about? cause that's all i dream about. and i know all about those "organist" things that women have in the sack. why just the other night i was with one of my lady friends, and she started getting real loud, so i says to her, i says "put a sock in it mrs. hopkins, or we'll wake up robbie!" touche! -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 12:05:31 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:05:31 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Who is the real Honey? Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E3A5@NCMSERVER> A little game that anyone with internet access can play... Type someone's name into a search engine, and see what comes up. Sad, but very interesting. For instance, the truth about our benevolent leader can finally be revealed at http://www.flash.net/~pmitchel/ . It turns out that Mr Mitchell, who is married to the lovely Karie Ann Colacicco Mitchell, loves his siblings even though only one of them has a web site, is a member of the Society for creative Anachronism, and admires Freddy Mercury. Nice to hear that he likes Helena Bonham-Carter, though. He's a very nice looking man, too. Will the real Honey please stand up? I feel cheated. B&S Content - what exactly is the 'mick cooke commerative mug' (sic)? I'm tempted, but there's nothing worse than a diappointing mug is there. Neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian.thompson at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 12:22:10 1998 From: ian.thompson at xxx.uk (Ian D. Thompson) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:22:10 +0000 Subject: Sinister: mugging Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981113122210.006b1af8@pop-hub.strath.ac.uk> Listee peeps, Neil wrote >B&S Content - what exactly is the 'mick cooke commerative mug' (sic)? I'm >tempted, but there's nothing worse than a diappointing mug is there. This fine piece of crockery is a celebration of Mick officially joining B&S. I recommend you rush out and buy one. Its got "B&S commemerate Mick Cooke officially joining 1998" or somesuch written on it and cartoony instruments pics and everything - just the thing to sip iced tea from, so I believe. I keep foreign coins in mine cos I dont like tea. Not as good as the Judy mug, but there you go. Ian no bus, no smut, no shoegazing 8) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 12:20:54 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:20:54 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Dreaming of robins Message-ID: What's up, my beloved sinisterines ? My first Belle and Sebastian dream take place yesterday night!I had not been listening to any of their songs ( in fact, I had been playing Mercury Rev old albums and Sonic Youth stuff before going to sleep) Well, there was not any member in the plot, but some listee : Robin Stout. There is some explanation.I went yesterday to check the FilmMaking Soc pidgeonhole at the Union to get a copy of a script, but instead of it I found a list with new members names and Robin Stout was written there. And I started to think he was everywhere I join lately, maybe he is not real , he is just some projection of myself, my own William Wilson ? Let's go to the dream : I was in the Science Library, and I was looking up some book in the computer.Then someone pushed me slightly on my back and I nearly fall onto the keyboard.I turned my head to find a terribly pathetically ugly guy wearing a TShirt which said : Who is Seymour Stein? And then I knew (as you only know in dreams,with no reasons at all,and someone said before)he was Robin Stout and I stated so in loud voice, and he nodded ,grinning at the same time. Sorry, Robin, probably you look much better in real life , and I hope you will recover soon from your illness It is funny anyway, you hadn't posted anything lately and you sent something today.And however, you were the first one with a bus story, the one about the girl wearing a B&S T Shirt in Kidderminster, indeed. Hoping my next dream with belle and sebastian content will be more interesting and /or smutty...with the aim to provide joyful moments to all of you Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Fri Nov 13 11:10:16 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:10:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: A lovely night in Paris Message-ID: <002566BB.003B7D77.00@notes.ericsson.se> By the way, if one of the listees has the opportunity to meet Stephen Pastel in his record store, dont hesitate to congratulate him and to say this party in Paris was great!!! - I used to go to Glasgow uni and every lunch time I used to go down to Byres Rd and browse through the obscure 7" upstairs. He wasn't there everyday unfortunately. WOW being a pop fan has it's great moments. It was really good fun to watch the people who didn't know who he was getting served, then watching the shufflin,nevous fans taking some carefully selected piece of vinyl over. Can you imagine the Joy when I took up my mates band 7" and he asked me what it was like!!!! Unfortunately I just stammered a lot....... I once followed Katrina round safeway at the top of Byres road. And I also saw them at a couple of Pulp gigs My god I'm a stalker aren't I? Oh my god......... Richard erm no Trevor........ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 13:27:16 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:27:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Matters of cloth Message-ID: Joss quoth the press: "Their trainspotter fans hide in well-worn anoraks and massive sideburns" And Ian fretted, "This was going to be like that day in the third grade when I wore purple on a Thursday..." All of which got me wondering, exactly what are you good people wearing today? I would guess the stereotypical image of B&S fans is wedge haircuts, black 501s with turn-ups, cardies or three quarter length suede jackets and Penguin books T-shirt for the boys, and short floral skirts, DM shoes, hair slides and woolly stockings for the girls. However, with all this talk of silver trousers, I suspect that there's more than a number of glamourpusses among you. For the record: Today I am sporting a hooded Carhartt fleece (sort of halfway between casual attire and spoddy dufell coat), an insouciant red V-neck, cords and fine pair of Over Cube boots which appear to be a fusion of the desert boot and the trainer. Tonight, I might well sport my Radio Caroline T-shirt (it's so much better than the Light Programme, don't you think?). But what about you? Clothes horse, or a load of old pony? PS/ B&S content: I'd dearly love to sport a Study At Stow T-shirt but, you know the score, only another 9 days (or maybe less) to go... "All we've done since we got here is drink wine and screw," "What do you suggest?" "Tomorrow let's pray for beer!" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 14:11:15 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 06:11:15 PST Subject: Sinister: The Short Bus Message-ID: <19981113141115.29725.qmail@hotmail.com> I can't seem to find anything to coordinate with my "Study at Stow" shirt. I have a pair of bordeaux corduroys that I refuse to wear on any occasion that might coordinate but it doesn't seem that anything else quite goes with that powder blue. I went out to a movie with it on and my date was like, "you know, you really CLASH." Then: "I suppose you wanted it that way." I miss college. I miss having grey Sundays where I have nothing to do, where the world seems too soggy to even continue turning, days that I'd just get on the back of the bus and just ride around til dark, just me and my discman and the roar and squeak of the bus and an endless reel of dead wet leaves and deserted streets. Now in DC I'd dare not ride the bus, besides which it costs money and goes nowhere I'd wanna see anyhow. My school is so cruel, now. If you do really badly on a test, you get invited to a "special" class to help you do better on the next one.... a class which my colleagues have termed "The Short Bus", you know, like the ones that would bring the retarded kids to school. I think after my test yesterday I got invited. I'm too proud to go. I'd rather flunk out than be on the short bus. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 13:57:05 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:57:05 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: bus stories Message-ID: a vey short bus story. this morning whilst i was the 358 on the way to the station, i decided that i would do somethng totally out of character. i waited until the drivers change and the garage at green st green (i don't know why i told you that as i doubt anyone knows where green st. green is) i pulled out of my back pocket, wait for it, a wad of salako stickers thye lovely katrina and david had given me at last nights gig. i then finally managed to pluck up the courage to stick on the back of the seat, for everyone to see. B&S content: well it's more of a train story i suppose but after getting of the bus and getting the train to the smoke i was sat on the train next to a newe mother and her baby. well after about twenty minutes the baby being quiet the whole tome me listening to b&s on my walkman the woman tapped me on the sholder and said, "i'm terribly sorry, but i need to go to the toilet and i don't want to take my baby in there because there usually filthy so would you look after him?" a bit peturb i agreed - why choose me do i look as if i know one end from a baby to another. so the mother sat the baby on my lap. immediatley the baby started to cry. for his mother had abondoned him with some stranger with a red fleece. everyone on the train then looked round as if i was abusing this child so recently left in my care. then a thought occured to me. my walkman still playing. the lovely isobel and her sweet harmonies singing is it wicked? so i decided that i would sing along to it to the baby. immediatly the baby stopped crying and now i guess is b&s's youngest fan. the mother still hasn't returned and the baby is now sitting on the workbench here as i type at uni. (a lie - but it makes a rather sweet ending to the story i thought). bye +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Fri Nov 13 14:16:59 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:16:59 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Do My Eyes Deceive Me? Message-ID: <01be0f10$46cd36e0$a04b05c3@itjfvkli> Stephan wrote: I'll give you the addresses of 5 other people and youd have to copy and post them. PLEASE, if you volunteer, make sure you have a good stereo at home, not just one you got 10 years ago for 100 bucks- the others want a good copy! Is it me? This IS a joke isn't it? I'm flabbergasted! Has anyone else noticed? Or is it just me? Talk about pushing back the boundaries of top comedy! Hats off! Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Fri Nov 13 14:47:16 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:47:16 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Anyone here from Second Hand Tunes on 53rd St? Message-ID: Hello to the guy that works there. I forgot your name. This is Heather (glam rock DJ at WHPK, remember?). Thanks for getting me into Belle and Sebastian! They are really great. I'm living in California now and we're moving to Michigan in January. BTW - I think they used Cockney Rebel in Velvet Goldmine. Have you seen it yet? I think it's really great! Ciao! http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 14:53:59 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:53:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: On the Buses Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C4C@COR-EXG1> I 'ate You..... All this talk of some of public transports finer moments has given me an idea for another Sinister game. Around this time of year we tend to experience some of the less interesting bus journeys with windows all steamed up with condensation, there's nothing to be seen. Not anymore kiddoes. Let us have a compy where we all write libelous remarks about our fave B&S members in the condensation. For instance, I could write "Stuart Murdoch drowned my kittens" on an Exeter bus, the Duke'll read it, inform the bands management and I'll be appearing at Exeter crown court in a matter of days. The one who gets the longest prison sentence (I assume a sentence will be imposed due to you's all being broke because of the amount of cash you spend on records) wins my toe-nail clippings. I'll start the game off with "Chris Geddes stole my sideburns", on next Tuesdays Exeter to London coach, keep your eyes peeled yer cockney twats. Love, Blakey. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Fri Nov 13 14:55:25 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:55:25 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: One more for the english vs. american thread In-Reply-To: <19981112013001.22421.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: You forgot the most important one (which I learned during a trip to England at the tender and inmpressionable age of nine). If you go overseas with your mom and dad, and they insist on going into a pub for a beer and leaving you outside, you must sit on the wall across the street and adopting your best drunken slur, serenade the passers-by with an American drinking song such "Show Me the Way to go Home," complete with faked hiccups and wildly contorted faces. This works best if you are nine and have your little sister along. Brits really like drunken American children. (my sis and I actually did this). Ciao! http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu On Wed, 11 Nov 1998, Burt Reynolds wrote: > > Hello all, > > Pulled this off the Moose Mansions website. I know this thread died and > went to heaven weeks ago, but you MUST read this... > > Yer pal, > Rachael > > > Jo's Completely Factual and Not At All Juvenile Guide for Americans > Visiting > Britain > > I keep getting mail from Cornell students who ask my advice on > travelling and > researching in the UK -- apparently someone started a rumor that I knew > something about it. I finally decided to compile a little guidebook > containing > my accumulated wisdom on the subject. I do fervently hope that someone > will put > it to use. > > Vocabulary > > The Brits have peculiar words for many things. Money is referred to as > "goolies" in slang, so you should for instance say "I'd love to come to > the pub > but I haven't got any goolies." "Quid" is the modern word for what was > once > called a "shilling" -- the equivalent of seventeen cents American. > Underpants > are called "wellies" and friends are called "tossers." If you are fond > of > someone, you should tell him he is a "great tosser" -- he will be > touched. The > English are a notoriously demonstrative, tactile people, and if you want > to fit > in you should hold hands with your acquaintances and tossers when you > walk down > the street. Public nuzzling and licking are also encouraged, but only > between > people of the same sex. > > Habits > > Ever since their Tory government wholeheartedly embraced full union with > Europe, the Brits have been attempting to adopt certain continental > customs, > such as the large midday meal followed by a two- or three-hour siesta , > which > they call a "wank." As this is still a fairly new practice in Britain, > it is > not uncommon for people to oversleep (alarm clocks, alas, do not work > there due > to the magnetic pull from Greenwich). If you are late for supper, simply > apologize and explain that you were having a wank -- everyone will > understand > and forgive you. > > Universities > > University archives and manuscript collections are still governed by > quaint > medieval rules retained out of respect for tradition; hence patrons are > expected to bring to the reading rooms their own ink-pots and a small > knife for > sharpening their pens. Observing these customs will signal the > librarians that > you are "in the know" -- one of the inner circle, as it were, for the > rules are > unwritten and not posted anywhere in the library. Likewise, it is > customary to > kiss the librarian on both cheeks when he brings a manuscript you've > requested, > a practice dating back to the reign of Henry VI. > One of the most delighful ways to spend an afternoon in Oxford or > Cambridge is > gliding gently down the river in one of their flat-bottomed boats, which > you > propel using a long pole. This is known as "cottaging." Many of the > boats > (called "yer-I-nals") are privately owned by the colleges, but there > are some > places that rent them to the public by the hour. Just tell a professor > or > policeman that you are interested in doing some cottaging and would like > to > know where the public yerinals are. The poles must be treated with > vegetable > oil to protect them from the water, so it's a good idea to buy a can of > Crisco > and have it on you when you ask directions to the yerinals. That way > people > will know you are an experienced cottager. > > Food > > British cuisine enjoys a well deserved reputation as the most sublime > gastronomic pleasure available to man. Thanks to today's robust dollar, > the > American traveller can easily afford to dine out several times a week > (rest > assured that a British meal is worth interrupting your afternoon wank > for). Few > foreigners are aware that there are several grades of meat in the UK. > The best > cuts of meat, like the best bottles of gin, bear Her Majesty's seal, > called the > British Stamp of Excellence (BSE). When you go to a fine restaurant, > tell your > waiter you want BSE beef and won't settle for anything less. If he balks > at > your request, custom dictates that you jerk your head imperiously back > and > forth while rolling your eyes to show him who is boss. Once the waiter > realizes > you are a person of discriminating taste, he may offer to let you peruse > the > restaurant's list of exquisite British wines. If he doesn't, you should > order > one anyway. The best wine grapes grow on the steep, chalky hillsides of > Yorkshire and East Anglia -- try an Ely '84 or Ripon '88 for a rare > treat > indeed. When the bill for your meal comes it will show a suggested > amount. Pay > whatever you think is fair, unless you plan to dine there again, in > which case > you should simply walk out; the restaurant host will understand that he > should > run a tab for you. > > Transportation > > Public taxis are subsidized by the Her Majesty's Government. A taxi ride > in > London costs two pounds, no matter how far you travel. If a taxi driver > tries > to overcharge you, you should yell "I think not, you charlatan!", then > grab the > nearest bobby and have the driver arrested. It is rarely necessary to > take a > taxi, though, since bus drivers are required to make detours at patrons' > requests. Just board any bus, pay your fare of thruppence (the heavy > gold-colored coins are "pence"), and state your destination clearly to > the > driver, e.g.: "Please take me to the British Library." A driver will > frequently > try to have a bit of harmless fun by pretending he doesn't go to your > requested > destination. Ignore him, as he is only teasing the American tourist > (little > does he know you're not so ignorant!). > > Speaking of the British Library, you should know that it has recently > moved to > a new location at Kew. Kew is a small fishing village in Wales. It can > be > reached by taking the train to Cardiff; once there, ask any local about > the > complimentary shuttle bus to Kew. (Don't forget that buses are called > "prams" > in England, and trains are called "bumbershoots"--it's a little > confusing at > first. Motorcycles are called "lorries" and the hospital, for reasons > unknown, > is called the "off-license." It's also very important to know that a > "doctor" > only means a PhD in England, not a physician. If you want a physician, > you > must ask for an "MP" (which stands for "master physician"). > > For those travelling on a shoestring budget, the London Tube may be the > most > economical way to get about, especially if you are a woman. Chivalry is > alive > and well in Britain, and ladies still travel for free on the Tube. > Simply take > some tokens from the baskets at the base of the escalators or on the > platforms; > you will find one near any of the state-sponsored Tube musicians. Once > on the > platform, though, beware! Approaching trains sometimes disurb the large > Gappe > bats that roost in the tunnels. The Gappes were smuggled into London in > the > early 19th century by French saboteurs and have proved impossible to > exterminate. The announcement "Mind the Gappe!" is a signal that you > should > grab your hair and look towards the ceiling. Very few people have ever > been > killed by Gappes, though, and they are considered only a minor drawback > to an > otherwise excellent means of transportation. (If you have difficulty > locating > the Tube station, merely follow the signs that say "Subway" and ask one > of the > full-time attendants where you can catch the bumbershoot.) > > One final note: for preferential treatment when you arrive at Heathrow > airport, > announce that you are a member of Shin Fane (an international Jewish > peace > organization -- the "shin" stands for "shalom"). As savvy travellers > know, this > little white lie will assure you priority treatment as you make your way > through customs; otherwise you could waste all day in line. You might, > in fact, > want to ask a customs agent to put a Shin Fane stamp in your passport, > as it > will expedite things on your return trip. > > Bollocks to your mum! ("farewell and good health to your family") > > -- > Vectored by Moose Mansions (http://www.geocities.com/Athens/2694/) > > > ______________________________________________________ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 15:33:30 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:33:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake's stylish bus ride. Message-ID: <199811131527.PAA08691@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Thanks for all the lovely replies for the Drake thing, which I honestly wasn't expecting... You are all lovely lovely people and I now forgive you for not having crushes on me. And I've got one last bus story for you before the subject gets a little tiresome (if this hasn't happened already, which I dont think it has, but hey, horses for courses and casting clouts and all that). My friend James (not me obviously...) was on a bus home when the bus driver stopped half way a one of the usual stops nd with the passengers an inspector came on. Apparently the driver started acting all nervous and the inspector checked all the tickets and found that they were all for 10p of something and that the driver was pocketing the rest. So he chucked the driver off the bus there and then and drove it the rest of the way. Martin Horsfield said; > All of which got me wondering, exactly what are you good people > wearing today? I would guess the stereotypical image of B&S > fans is wedge haircuts, black 501s with turn-ups, cardies or three > quarter length suede jackets and Penguin books T-shirt for the > boys, and short floral skirts, DM shoes, hair slides and woolly > stockings for the girls. However, with all this talk of silver > trousers, I suspect that there's more than a number of > glamourpusses among you. Hmmn, you've caught me at a bad time, this being daytime in the IT centre and not out at a gig or something but here we go - For a start, You've all been assuming I'm short but haha, the 'wee' stands for 'wildman' and does not indicate shortness, in fact I am 5'11 FYI. Today I have my black hair in it's usual semi-quiff, I'm wearing a T-shirt with a picture of Paul McCartney, not because I'm a fan but because it goes with item 2, My suede car coat and Item 3, my blue trousers. I've got some light suede walking boots on and glittery gold nail varnish 'cos it's too much bother taking it off if you're going to put it back on every night. Satisfied...? Missing you already, WeeJay XXXXXXXXXXXX James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 15:49:26 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:49:26 EST Subject: Sinister: Damon And The Werid But Funny Dream of B&S Message-ID: Hello Mates, Last night I was listening to If Your feeling Sinister and eating a Pack of M&Ms (Witch was Peachy) right before I went to bed so Thats why I think I got this dream.... First There was a Fox in The Snow and it was looking around then it went on the sunny grass and went up a hill where a Catholic church was and went in and then It went into a Cunfession booth where he Found Wee Chris confessing Using an Arab Strap(Hehe Im even Sassy in my dreans >:) ) then my view changed and all of a sudden I was following a horse through the woods and then I saw a wee Littel hut and went in it and there was Stu and all these kids and they all were Lidstening to B&S and watching "Dont Look Back" and then that was it. anyone else have a dream about this? -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goon_koch at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 15:50:43 1998 From: goon_koch at xxx.com (Goon Koch) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:50:43 PST Subject: Sinister: philly redux, nick drake, (real) noise, mbv, record player advice Message-ID: <19981113155044.181.qmail@hotmail.com> damn, it�s been long since i posted. i think i was on some different cloud for the philly show, the new york show and the week in between. after the korova milk bar party, my appetite having been whetted for a little of the old ultraviolence, i took a quick nap in my car and then dieseled back down to parts pennsylvanian. but i think that all that ecstatic peacing out together caught up with me a little bit and several days of miserable illness ensued. on Monday i was at the trocadero/balcony bar for movie night. i spoke to one of the managers there (name eludes me) and she expressed great disappointment that they did not play but was not bitter. she didn�t say anything about any of the other band members being at the hospital, or otherwise unavailable. i traded in my ticket stubs for the refund. god, that was sad. at least i was able to get my money back. i know a lot of other people weren�t as lucky. jessica g., i�m glad your shirt fits. after all my whining about belle and sebastian providing inadequate coverage to their healthy adorers, my XL is almost too big. at least this way i can wear it over a sweater and whatnot, so i can show my colors even in driving sleet . . . nick drake has spent a lot of time in my cd player lately. i�ve had �pink moon� for a couple of years (had to have it after i heard sebadoh�s cover of the title track). it�s very bleak and makes me feel like i�m being drawn into a tiny little box, but it really really really grew on me. nick had booked some studio time with a sound engineer and recorded a few songs with his acoustic guitar over the course of two days. the sound engineer was under the impression that these were to be rough demos, but a few days later nick walked, unannounced, into the record company�s office, plunked down the tapes on some receptionist�s desk, and walked back out. that�s �pink moon.� nick never recorded another minute of music and later commented to a friend that he felt he had no songs left to record. when i finally borrowed a friend�s box set and heard the first two albums, i was totally blown away. compared to the rock garden of �pink moon� they are like flowers in full bloom. �bryter later� is a gem. very polished, it is also very balanced. it starts out with a short instrumental and then launches into �hazy jane II� which reminds me of the way every belle and sebastian album starts with stuart singing very softly by himself and then hits its melodic stride very quickly. also, �if you�re feeling sinister� owes a LOT to �hazy jane II,� specifically the quick, tight phrasing in the verses while moving through an entire octave with the instrumentation is marching in place. listen to it. i think it�s uncanny. so anyway, �pink moon� is the definitive nick drake album for you if you prefer slow, dirgelike joy division over new order circa �age of consent.� if you think about it, it makes a lot of sense that nobody paid a lot of attention to nick in his day. in 1969/70 everybody�s eyes and ears where focused sharply on the other side of the pond, and compared to jimi hendrix and janis joplin, sweet nick, with his string sections and delicate phrasings, must have seemed terribly naive and old-fashioned. when i was flying to canada and the little muffled gong sounded and i was told i could now operate �approved electronic devices� (are belle and sebastian approved by USAir?) i listened to �if you�re feeling sinister� and it sounded totally different. in an airplane, there is a tremendous amount of noise, but almost all of it is concentrated in a relatively narrow band of the frequency spectrum. (i am told that flight crews eventually lose their hearing in that spectrum) this noise filters out certain aspects of the music so that on �get me away from here, i�m dying� all i could hear was the bottom end of the guitar, the top end of stuart�s voice, a little bit of percussion and a what sounded like fifty fingers constantly sliding along fret boards. it�s great hearing music you love and listen to obsessively for the first time all over again. the all time greatest album for combining with noise is, obviously, mbv�s �loveless.� all in all i�d have to say that creation�s money was put to good use because mad kevin sure crammed an awful lot of sound in there. i spent a summer in alaska, doing commercial fishery and marine maintenance, and i always made a point of blasting �loveless� on the portable stereo whenever i was working with a new power tool or noise environment. whether combined with a power sander, air drill, industrial vacuum, circulation pumps, the sea driving against the hull of the ship, the churning of different engine rooms, the music always sounded fresh and different and enhanced somehow. damn, i�m still kicking myself for not seeing them live, but, y�know, i would have had to take the train to frankfurt . . . oh, to whoever said they were going to burn their mbv cd�s: don�t do that. send them to me and i�ll make sure they find a good home. can anyone recommend a good turntable to me? where in the u.s. east coast do i have to go to find a nice record player? does anybody have a decent used one they want to sell me? okloveyoubyebye, -goon k.- ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MMeyerson at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 16:00:25 1998 From: MMeyerson at xxx.com (Mark Meyerson) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:00:25 -0500 Subject: : Sinister: In All Their Glory!!! Be There LIVE!!!!! Message-ID: <50782B586CD0D1118EDA00805F06A202391B80@HAL> Oh Les, I tried to check out the DC story and the link was bad ?? thanks MMMMMark > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Meyerson > Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 10:55 AM > To: sinister-digest at majordomo.net > Subject: RE: : Sinister: In All Their Glory!!! Be There > LIVE!!!!! > > > grrrrreat job on the photos Lesley > > I made the one of just Isobel's head my desktop wallpaper > > thanks for bringing the memories back > as I loved the DC show and can't wait for B&S to grace us with their > musical delights once again > > > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4967/bs.html > > > ciao now, brown cow > MMMMMark > > > > np "she's losing it" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MMeyerson at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 15:56:18 1998 From: MMeyerson at xxx.com (Mark Meyerson) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:56:18 -0500 Subject: : Sinister: In All Their Glory!!! Be There LIVE!!!!! Message-ID: <50782B586CD0D1118EDA00805F06A202391B7D@HAL> grrrrreat job on the photos Lesley I made the one of just Isobel's head my desktop wallpaper thanks for bringing the memories back as I loved the DC show and can't wait for B&S to grace us with their musical delights once again http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4967/bs.html ciao now, brown cow MMMMMark np "she's losing it" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MMeyerson at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 16:01:23 1998 From: MMeyerson at xxx.com (Mark Meyerson) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:01:23 -0500 Subject: : Sinister: In All Their Glory!!! Be There LIVE!!!!! Message-ID: <50782B586CD0D1118EDA00805F06A202391B81@HAL> Oh Les, I tried to check out the DC story and the link was bad ?? thanks MMMMMark > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Meyerson > Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 10:55 AM > To: sinister-digest at majordomo.net > Subject: RE: : Sinister: In All Their Glory!!! Be There > LIVE!!!!! > > > grrrrreat job on the photos Lesley > > I made the one of just Isobel's head my desktop wallpaper > > thanks for bringing the memories back > as I loved the DC show and can't wait for B&S to grace us with their > musical delights once again > > > http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Atrium/4967/bs.html > > > ciao now, brown cow > MMMMMark > > > > np "she's losing it" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 17:09:20 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:09:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: In-Reply-To: <01BE0CEF.76066440@Abonado-195-53-45-85.cat.es> Message-ID: Well, first things first, Salako were excellent last night. Even if we did miss the first 3 songs because we stopped off for some chips on the way from the Poetry Cafe. I had my doubts, I must admit, for such a new band, but they pulled it off really well. The audience seemed really into it as well, unusually for a London gig. And I saw a fox afterwards. It wasn't snowing though. On apparently a more important note to many people, by popular demand the crush vote is still open. I'll post an updated table sometime in the not-too-distant future, so if there is anyone on the list you have a crush on and you haven't told me yet, do it now! And just so that Sarah doesn't get too bigheaded, she may be on 8 votes but there are now 4 people on 7 votes... (And no, no matter how many times any of you ask me I'm not telling who voted for you! If you think you might know, try emailing them personally about something else and let the conversation progress...) Currently in my stereo are a couple of albums I bought yesterday after recommendations from the list - Mercury Rev's "Deserters Songs" which I really like, in a like-Spiritualised-but-better-tunes way, and the Field Mice compilation. I've only listened to the first CD of that so far, and there are a few very good songs on it - I prefer the later songs (with the female vocals) at first listen, rather than the more New-Order type early songs. Oh, and I don't remember anyone mentioning this yet - in last week's NME onew of the letters notes a similarity between the last minute and a half of "Rollercoaster Ride" and the end of Kraftwerk's "Neon Lights". Not that I've ever heard the latter, but never mind. I've decided that as of tomorrow I'm giving up alcohol, at least until the end of the month. I reckon I've got through more than 100 units in the last week, my body (and my wallet) needs a rest... Yours soberly, Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Nov 13 13:08:44 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:08:44 +0000 Subject: Sinister: links and photo's Message-ID: <364C2F5C.BF77CA8D@jeepster.co.uk> i've updated the links page on the jeepster site and removed the press section - no-one submitted any! what a surprise :) but i've also gone and added a new section, 'photo sites'. this was in light of someone submitting the link for the black session photo's (which are very cool when the site is up - temperamental server by the looks of things). anyhow, this is just a message to let everyone who has photo's of the band or other b&s links that they want to submit to go ahead, the site has a feature whereby you can add links on your own :) and why should you bother? well the b&s site receives nearly 100,000 page hits a week, and just after merchandise and the discography the most visited page is the links page, so this will help a lot of people get to your site a lot easier. anyhow, the link? well just head to: http://www.jeepster.co.uk/cgi-bin/belle/links/links.cgi cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Fri Nov 13 17:24:08 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:24:08 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Bay Area Clubs? (no B&S) Message-ID: I should probably preface this message by asking, is it ok to write non B&S messages? I know that Lipgloss has a (NP) tag that you can insert into your subject line. Is there anything like that here? I don't want to step on anyone's toes. Just for now though, let me ask, does anyone know of a britpop/new wave club that goes on weekends in the San Fransisco Bay Area. I guess New Wave City is good, but that's Thursdays and I work. Just wondering. Thanks. Heather http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 18:08:05 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:08:05 PST Subject: Sinister: Drunken Non Sequitor Message-ID: <19981113180806.28937.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey there! I was working as a hostess in a restaurant a couple of years back. It was located in the heart of a bustling metropolis so we used to get all manner of street life. This drunk guy stumbled in once and I said (grabbing a menu), "Smoking or Non, sir?" He aimed his craggy face at me and raising one crooked finger said, "Jesus was kind, but there's a lot of mean music out there!" ~Rachael In the CD player: a green furry bit of bologna. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From his8jm at xxx.UK Fri Nov 13 17:34:48 1998 From: his8jm at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:34:48 GMT Subject: Sinister: ooooooohhhhhhhhh! Message-ID: <23394B92F4B@arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> I think Jessica Murphy is great, belle and sebastian are only pipping her to my love interest pole position +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jesandy at xxx.edu Fri Nov 13 19:52:41 1998 From: jesandy at xxx.edu (jennifer) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:52:41 -0500 Subject: Sinister: non b&s- study in england- help me! Message-ID: <01be0f3f$2c662300$1f159f95@jimmy..> hello sinistereenies! i have a non b&s question that i was hoping some people could help me out with... the deal is that i'd like to study abroad in england next year but my options are limited. i wanted to know what anyone thought of the university of kent at canterbury? also, what universities are there in london that are fun, social, open-minded etc? i'd really like to be in london but i've never lived in a city, so... i thought if any of you uk listees could give me some advice, i would really really appreciate it and love you forever! thank you so very much, pls reply privately so as not to clog up our lovely list. have lovely weekends, kids, and thank you again if you've read this far! :) jennifer jesandy at indiana.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...if you put down your pen, leave the worries behind, then the moment will come, and the memory will shine... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 19:12:04 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:12:04 -0400 Subject: Sinister: links and photo's Message-ID: <364C8485.C04B7D7@bigfoot.com> David was so excited about the links page that he didn't mention (at least not that I saw) that the artwork and most of the lyrics to the new EP are also up on the webpage. I love the cover...it's now "the orange one". I think we should be all-out B&S snobs and just start referring to the releases by their predominant color scheme. Or maybe not...we'd get confused between Sinister and LLPJ and what the hell color is Tigermilk?! Now, we all know that Stuart tends to be a little liberal in what words he sings as opposed to what the lyric sheet says, but...I'll be interested to actually hear all of the EP version of Modern Rock song, since the lyric sheet on the website says, "I'm only lucid when I'm writing songs" rather than "I'm only lucid when I'm riding buses". If he sings it that way, I know someone who will be very, very disappointed. Plus, this will probably put a stop to the bus stories. Although I really loved Sam's story about singing Is It Wicked Not to Care to a strange baby. Because a post has got to stop somewhere, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 20:38:32 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 12:38:32 -0800 Subject: Sinister: dedicated followers of sebastian fashion Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF03319DF6@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Heather politely inquired: <> It seems Honey's got the Sinister site back up and running (YAY! let's hear it for the boy!!!) but there is a nice tidbit in the FAQ's with some handy guidelines about what's ok to write... see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/faq.html. Seems anything that's interesting, touching, funny or depravingly smutty and related to the lives of B&S fans gets the green-light. Those, including everyone's new list crush Carmen, interested in a strictly news-only list about that odd little scottish band with the funny name might want to subscribe to Katrina's press-release do at the jeepster site at http://www.jeepster.co.uk. (I won't get in trouble for writing this will i? s'only trynna help, mom....::sulk::) Otherwise you'll end up with a lot of rubbish, not unlike what you're currently reading. Only probably more clever. <> Any chance of a full range of colors coming out? or at least white. I've got brown skin and the it doesn't even match *me*. Brown and baby blue, can you say 'bluergh'? In fashion crimes, that's a life sentence. So each time I wear it at the risk of Mr Blackwell throwing my poorly-coordinated ass in prison. <> I reckon the sinisterineseses are a diverse lot, with b-boys and Cargo-pant kids, even pedal-pusher wearers in the ranks!!! but "glam", it doesn't seem the accepted stereotype for us... i imagine anyone showing up to a B&S gig with a Prada handbag gets beaten to a bloody pulp with it shortly thereafter..hehe.. after all, there are people going hungry far away and such... I've said it before dammit, surely you all have impeccable fashion sense!! (except you, in the back.. luv, lycra isn't meant for everybody...) Since the second time was a charm for Weejay, I'm asking again - does anyone know if Nick Drake had a daughter?? ta, tina yothers P.S. Heather in Berkeley - New Wave City is once a month, and usually Saturdays. "1984" is the thursday night club... e-mail me privately for more info.:-) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 13 20:51:33 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:51:33 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I know my way down the side streets now/videos... Message-ID: <364C9BD5.722103F@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello List, I'm sort of enjoying writing numerous posts to the list. I hope Hunny is pleased rather than displeased. I like saying Hunny instead of Honey. It sounds so much like Mummy, you see. I mean the female parental-type ones, not the ones wrapped in bandages. The other day I wrote on our dry-erase board "Hunny Nut Cheerios." I think it may be catching. Oh dear... the lovely Reid pens: (it's still not to late to vote if you think I've been slighted, you know, Reid =) > I think we should be all-out B&S snobs and just start referring > to the releases by their predominant color scheme. Or maybe not...we'd > get confused between Sinister and LLPJ and what the hell color is > Tigermilk?! Well, Sinister is red and LLPJ is purple, of course! Tigermilk is...erm...just Tigermilk. It's title short, so no need to give it a chromatic moniker. So we go Tigermilk, the red one, the yellow one, the purple one, the silver(!) one, the green one, and now the orange one. They're running low on colors, I should imagine. Still a few good ones left: the blue one, the gold one, the sky-blue one, the chartreuse one, the perriwinkle one, etc. Carmen with a "c" writes: > You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check > my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle > and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to > do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up > not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about > Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and > Isobel might be a couple--who cares? I don't think either of them > enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try > keeping on the topic, please. It was with effort that I restrained myself from being mean towards both this person and "Nicky Wire." Anyway, no one has pointed out the news list. I forget the exact phrasing of the name of it. Anyway, I refer to the list which you can subscribe to for B&S news, and B&S news only. Wasn't it established for people who disliked the off-topic discussion? Info's on the Jeepster site, I believe. I am tempted to use the word pastiche in a sentence, but I can't really think of how to. Oh well. I again have a twee job this Christmas. Very Christmas-y as well. I will be photographing small children with "Santa Claus" (you can bet his address is at HotMail) 60 hours a week. Oh dear... But I've managed to capture two essential elements of B&S - photography and children. The only job I think that would beat mine would be a children's librarian. I used to work at a children's museum. I think their next song should be about a boy who daydreams by the sunny window, while children frolic and learn about him. Yesterday I had a rather interesting escapade. My friend Matt and I were driving to take a video game back to the video store. It was due at the mid of night, we left at 11:55, etc. So I was tearing up the cobblestone streets of Athens, when Matty boy noticed a police car turning 'round so as to follow us, pull me over, and give me a ticket. Bastard. What's he thinking? Don't cops realize that laws don't apply when one is worried about turning a video in on time? Well we're within site of the video store, a couple minutes 'til midnight, and Matt says frantically for me to turn onto a dark side street. So there I go, rocketing down darkened side streets, hurtling past cotes and cars, Matt shouting quick directions "turn here," etc. Matt offered to pay my late fee, but advised me not to go back to the store. It would have been late anyway. I still haven't taken my game back. I fear retribution. But not from you lot. I doubt the cop was on this list =D B&S haven't written any songs about cops, have they? Come to think of it, Stuart M's songs (for Stevie, Isobel & Stuart D's songs don't seem to be about people's occupations as much) seem focused on daydreamers, students, photographers, bussinesspeople, artists, members of Arab Strap, Line Painters(?), long- and Middle-Distance Runners, assorted Stars of Track and Field, authors, the sick, the blind, the users of medicinal drugs, and of course, children. An interesting mish-mash if you ask me. Here's a question: will the new EP have some accompanying writing a la every release other than TWATTYBUS? Hm.... Oh, and I have a question about the vids. The "Is It Wicked Not to Care" video seemed rather nice, but the RealVideo thing kept messing it up. How many videos are there, in all? I recall something about videos for the previous EPs, as well as one for Modern Rock Song forthcoming. Is there anyone in England or Europe who would be nice enough to make me a NTSC video of these? Or capable of? I have many sparkly and wondrous recordings to proffer up in trade. Well, it's so very late in the day, and me without my shower. Where is my mind. Way out in the water, eveidently. See it spinning? Must go now, give my best to the twins, and a kiss for mother. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sabin_o at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 21:02:58 1998 From: sabin_o at xxx.com (S. M. O.) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 21:02:58 GMT Subject: Sinister: Bay Area Clubs? (no B&S) Message-ID: <19981113210258.16248.qmail@hotmail.com> There are quite a few good clubs in San Francisco, but not the "the bay area" so to speak. On Thursday nights there is Popscene (18 +)at 330 Ritch St in South Of Market Area. They play "brit-pop", indie, Mod, New Wave, and sixties. About a month back they had a Belle & Sebastian CD Giveaway party. Starting at about 10, i think( I didnt get there till 10.30) we got to be seranaded by the entire The Boy With The Arab Strap album. What fun.... Lately, though, my friends and I have been defecting to 1984(also on Thursdays, 21+ no cover charge!) which is at the Cats Alley on Folsom Street. They play the best 80's music you could imagine. There are a few other clubs around, one I havent been to, but my friends has, is called Sixxteen(21+). Its on Sundays at the DNA Lounge I believe. Its advertised as a "rock'n roll" club. They play lots of 60's - 80's(90's maybe??) music I think. I got handed a flyer at 1984 last night for it because I guess I looked cool enough(just kidding!). I have University at 9 am on Mondays so can never really make it to this one. Another club Ive wanted to check out is Bardot-A-Go-Go which is sixties French Pop and what not.... And another club I have yet to go to is Darling which is like a more exclusive Popscene scene (its 21+) and theres less indie-Britpop and more 60's/70's.... That is the extent of my knowlegde at present.... S ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com> Fri Nov 13 21:03:26 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com> (kellym at xxx.com>) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:03:26 -0800 Subject: Sinister: lunch Message-ID: <199811132106.NAA23394@macbeth.ienet.com> Welp, its lunchtime, for myself at least, and due to "insufficient funds" (as bank of america puts it so nicely) I once again had to dine at Mobil. What it lacks in decor it picks up in its multitude of delicious high-calorie snacks. As I drove to the gas station, I noticed one of those ticking billboards, you know, the ones with the odometer type readout that counts up or down or whatnow. Anyway, this time it wasn't the national debt or even the days left until the year 2,000, instead it was the number of smoking related deaths this year. As I sat waiting for the light to go green I watched as it ticked away three or four more deaths. What else could I do but turn up the music, light another cigarette and look away? I do not know. OK, so I got to the Mobil and put in some gas and washed my windshield off, then I went into the FoodMart part of it and began to look for something to have for lunch. At first I saw the nacho machine and I could feel myself being drawn into its magnificense, but I decided to keep on looking. I passed up the soda machines and the frozen yogurt maker and the Icee server and finally landed into the frozen food section. Mmm... frozen foods. So I finally saw a box of Lunchables that got me all excited. And thus, I ate PIZZA Lunchables for lunch. The box came with three REAL pizza crusts, pizza sauce, cheese, pepperoni, a BUTTERFINGER and a Capri Sun (i got a coke due to the fact that Capri Sun still brings up awful memories of grade school lunches). All in all it was pretty damn good, although it was mostly fat and pretty unfilling for the most part. Eh, it was free right? Oh wait... they expect me to pay the bill when it comes in... I keep forgetting to do that. I also got some more cigarettes in my effort to one day be a blinking number on some billboard off of Santa Monica Blvd. Now that the wonderful citizens of the state of California passed yet another cigarette tax (50 cents more a pack!), I am going to either have to start stockpiling these things until the tax goes into effect next year, or start making regular runs to Arizona or Mexico. OK, that's all. Just thought someone might want to know what I ate for lunch. Bye. -Kelly Ryan McGuire +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 21:25:38 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 13:25:38 -0800 Subject: Sinister: lunch Message-ID: Capri Sun (i got a coke due >to the fact that Capri Sun still brings up awful memories of grade school >lunches). Well....at least you HAD Capri Sun in your school lunches. People in MY age bracket had a choice of milk and/or orange juice...And there WERE no vegetarian lunches, as vegetarian's were those "far out" people who ate seeds and said "like wow man..like wow" (like some creepy guy I know called Richard from Aberdeen who STILL says that) and well...*I* always got milk, but then could never open it right cause I rode the short bus (metaphorically speaking) and i'd be all up in there trying to get it open with my fork and it would open all the way and i'd have to drink my milk out of one side (cause we didn't HAVE straws in MY day) and it would go all down the front of my clothes, which were grrranimals. Cause I couldn't match. don't feel bad Kelly....we might be a generation apart but we'll always be short bussers...broke short bussers...but hey, we've got eachother... and some nice music to listen to. beth p.s. It would have been a disaster with Capri Sun as well...I recall two Decembers ago...being with someone I was trying to be so cool around..and getting a juice box of Rybena ...I wasn't thinking and blew slightly into the straw to push a wee bit of air into the box then removed my mouth...have you ever done this? don't. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Fri Nov 13 22:25:14 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 22:25:14 +-100 Subject: Sinister: "Is it wicked..." video Message-ID: <01BE0F57.0D1C9160@Abonado-195-53-47-11.cat.es> I have the "Is it wicked not to care" video taped. But is in Pal Version. So, if anybody who can copy it to the NTSC system wants it, E-Mail me privately. I will be very kind to try to make some video tapes.... but if you can offer anything in return, things will go better (The Smiths/Mozzer bootlegs or a tape with some songs of Nick Drake can be a good example.) Tomorrow I will ask to my local video club, where they can make copies for the same Pal System. I know that there are some videos which can support the european and the american system. If any french sinisterine wants it, you will have to manage yourselves in order to make a copy in the SECAM system, because if not, you will have a beautiful copy of the video.... in black and white. Lordy Jordi. Well Sam, Belle and Sebby are "in the radio, playing songs for children...." isn?t it ? "See how words as old as sin fit me like a glove" (The Smiths "The hand that rocks the cradle") "No me hace ilusion la vida social, la revolucion del materialismo, filosofar, sobre esta vida, que pesadez, aa...." (Le Mans "Mi novela autobiografica) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeni_Morton at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 22:16:35 1998 From: Jeni_Morton at xxx.com (Jeni Morton) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:16:35 -0800 Subject: Sinister: lunch Message-ID: <0006662D.4155@rhinorecords.com> Randy Newman is here in my office for lunch doing photos for his new box set we just released, and well, the conference room is located near my wee-ickle-work station, and I really can't tell you how tired I am of hearing "Short People Got , NOBODY...." and the endless, tiresome, shorty jokes directed twords yours truly, so I ran, no wait, dashed out of here at exactally 12:30 for lunch....I too Kelly, my beautifully TALL-STRAPING friend, am lacking dosh so I ended up at.........*deep breath*....the Mall Food Court.....(perish the thought). I have been aerobasizing my bum for the last 2 months to blow it all at the Westside Pavillion food court......the delemma was weather to have the shite Chinese takeaway, Vege Soup from the ickle Deli, or the good ol' American standby, "Hot Dog On A Stick" (they now offer Vege Dogs as an alternative to the Cheese Sticks that I so adore) So I'm standing in the middle of the busy food court, hands stuffed into my trouser pockets that seem to have much more room for change these days, basking in the neon glow of the said food court....when I made the move......I dumped my fist full of change onto the counter.....the little 17 year old girl in the stripy uniform and silly hat looked at me with a bit of confusin, and so I asked......... "One Vegedog and a Cherry lemonaid.......please..." I gobbled the said dog and felt a bit full, but definatly content with the choice I had made for lunch....... *sigh* Any cures for hangovers? xo Photo Jeni xo _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Sinister: lunch From: "kellym at xxx.com> at Internet Date: 13/11/98 1:03 pm Welp, its lunchtime, for myself at least, and due to "insufficient funds" (as bank of america puts it so nicely) I once again had to dine at Mobil. What it lacks in decor it picks up in its multitude of delicious high-calorie snacks. As I drove to the gas station, I noticed one of those ticking billboards, you know, the ones with the odometer type readout that counts up or down or whatnow. Anyway, this time it wasn't the national debt or even the days left until the year 2,000, instead it was the number of smoking related deaths this year. As I sat waiting for the light to go green I watched as it ticked away three or four more deaths. What else could I do but turn up the music, light another cigarette and look away? I do not know. OK, so I got to the Mobil and put in some gas and washed my windshield off, then I went into the FoodMart part of it and began to look for something to have for lunch. At first I saw the nacho machine and I could feel myself being drawn into its magnificense, but I decided to keep on looking. I passed up the soda machines and the frozen yogurt maker and the Icee server and finally landed into the frozen food section. Mmm... frozen foods. So I finally saw a box of Lunchables that got me all excited. And thus, I ate PIZZA Lunchables for lunch. The box came with three REAL pizza crusts, pizza sauce, cheese, pepperoni, a BUTTERFINGER and a Capri Sun (i got a coke due to the fact that Capri Sun still brings up awful memories of grade school lunches). All in all it was pretty damn good, although it was mostly fat and pretty unfilling for the most part. Eh, it was free right? Oh wait... they expect me to pay the bill when it comes in... I keep forgetting to do that. I also got some more cigarettes in my effort to one day be a blinking number on some billboard off of Santa Monica Blvd. Now that the wonderful citizens of the state of California passed yet another cigarette tax (50 cents more a pack!), I am going to either have to start stockpiling these things until the tax goes into effect next year, or start making regular runs to Arizona or Mexico. OK, that's all. Just thought someone might want to know what I ate for lunch. Bye. -Kelly Ryan McGuire +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bijoux13 at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 22:35:04 1998 From: bijoux13 at xxx.com (Felicia Daniel) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:35:04 PST Subject: Sinister: lunch Message-ID: <19981113223504.7637.qmail@hotmail.com> i would never normally share such minutiae with hundreds of mostly-strangers, but i just feel compelled to continue this pattern of all of us l.a. listies posting about our lunches in successive order... i want you all to know that the special today at our work cafeteria was guinness-battered cod, can you beat that? i went over there specifically for that reason, and they actually had the empty four-pack of guinness propped up by the ordering line so you knew it was true. it was quite good, thanks. and they had malt vinegar for the chips. xoxo felicia ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bijoux13 at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 22:35:16 1998 From: bijoux13 at xxx.com (Felicia Daniel) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:35:16 PST Subject: Sinister: lunch Message-ID: <19981113223516.1646.qmail@hotmail.com> i would never normally share such minutiae with hundreds of mostly-strangers, but i just feel compelled to continue this pattern of all of us l.a. listies posting about our lunches in successive order... i want you all to know that the special today at our work cafeteria was guinness-battered cod, can you beat that? i went over there specifically for that reason, and they actually had an empty four-pack of guinness propped up by the ordering line so you knew it was truly made with the stuff. it was quite good, thanks. and they had malt vinegar for the chips. xoxo felicia ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 13 22:35:57 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:35:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Video Tree? References: <01BE0F57.0D1C9160@Abonado-195-53-47-11.cat.es> Message-ID: <364CB44D.EA12724C@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello, Sorry to post twice in the same day. I thought maybe it would be a good idea to get a video tree together? Not like the tape tree at all, really, but "video tree," sounds vaguely interesting. If you have any B&S videos, PAL or NTSC, e-mail me. If you can copy from PAL to NTSC, e-mail me. If you have a spiffing good VCR and can make NTSC copies from one NTSC tape for all the US Sinisterines, e-mail me. I'll try to organize something whereby we can make it easy for US people to get a tape of at least some of the videos. That is, if we have enough capable volunteers... /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tonyk at xxx.com Fri Nov 13 23:00:10 1998 From: tonyk at xxx.com (Kiewel, Tony) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:00:10 -0800 Subject: Sinister: lunch Message-ID: Whereas I had a delightful lunch of pad thai. Funny how good food tastes when you're milking your corporate card...but maybe that's revealing a little too much. I will say that although my life has been stressful beyond belief of late, I've been able to look back on my trip to NY and the two unbelievable Belle and Sebastian shows I witnessed there and smile from ear to ear. All right back into the shadows I go... -tonyk p.s. I hope all of you LA listees have seen Beachwood Sparks by now. They are truly wonderful. > -----Original Message----- > From: Felicia Daniel [SMTP:bijoux13 at xxx.com] > Sent: Friday, November 13, 1998 2:35 PM > To: Jeni_Morton at rhinorecords.com; kellym at raygun.com; > barzy at networkmags.com > Cc: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Re: Sinister: lunch > > > i would never normally share such minutiae with hundreds of > mostly-strangers, but i just feel compelled to continue this pattern > of > all of us l.a. listies posting about our lunches in successive > order... > > i want you all to know that the special today at our work cafeteria > was > guinness-battered cod, can you beat that? i went over there > specifically > for that reason, and they actually had an empty four-pack of guinness > propped up by the ordering line so you knew it was truly made with the > > stuff. > > it was quite good, thanks. and they had malt vinegar for the chips. > > xoxo > felicia > > > ______________________________________________________ > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To > unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list > rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" > +-+ > +--------------------------------------------------------------------- > -+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Fri Nov 13 23:09:16 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:09:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: when was the last time you said wattle and daub? Message-ID: <015e01be0f5a$a59c26a0$03000004@n2f9x2> here's my tale of buses: it was on the school coach, having arrived at the gates one morning, we expected to be allowed off the bus and into school. As you would. but the driver (trevor, norman, dave) wouldn't let us off, and instead disappeared up the school drive, leaving us in the bus. about 20 minutes later he returned, with the deputy head - mr Down, who looks like Robin Cook. he proceeded to check all the seats, until he found one with a gash in it, from a knife(i ask you,kids these days), then to everyone's incredulity mr Robin Cook Down wanted us to remember if we'd been sat in the same seats the day before. naturally no one had the first idea, and we were let off the bus, only to have to explain why we were late, and not be believed. later one of my friends was grassed up by a year 8 scrutter(as we like to call them) and called into mr down's office, and wrongfully accused of wanton vandalism. shameful. the bus drivers' were crap anyway. when they weren't careering along knocking down traffic cones on narrow countrylanes, they were chucking 15year old boys off the bus for being rude. in the middle of nowhere. they were hazardous times, those. alix.c "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Nov 13 23:28:14 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:28:14 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: PLEASE READ: a list mummy speaks Message-ID: Well chums, let's all sit down and have a tea-break. Someone go and get the chocolate fingers and let's settle down and natter. Veteran tea-drinkers and war heroes of this list will have done this a few too many times, so I apologise in advance, but please read this message to help this list survive, and please don't think I'm boring as hell, I can be damned smutty too for a list mummy (Mick McMick: "female parental-type ones, not the ones wrapped in bandages"). What I want to natter about for just a bit is this: Carmen: Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails ... and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian Heather: I should probably preface this message by asking, is it ok to write non B&S messages? Tara: Seems anything that's interesting, touching, funny or depravingly smutty and related to the lives of B&S fans gets the green-light. See the thing is, for anyone who's been on other mailing lists, they'll know that this balance is very hard to make. Most music mailing lists die quickly and in squalid circumstances by becoming either (a) too boring and talking about B sides on purple vinyl all the time, (b) being spread too thin, where everyone posts indiscriminately about the first thing they think of without pausing for thought about who's reading, or (c) everyone discusses what *should* be on the list and has a big pie fight; eventually someone sticks a brick in one of the pies and hurts someone else and they all end up sulking and moaning down the phone for hours to their mums. If you've seen any of this on a mailing list before, and you hated it, then you're *doubly* responsible to help here. Well, (c)'s not going to happen here because I'm not going to let it, as you all know :) And you can help me with that by please not prolonging discussions about what can and can't be on the list - as Tara says it's all been set out for ages in the FAQ on the WWW page, and you all got a copy when you joined so there will be a test at 3 o'clock next Tuesday. I take it dead seriously - you've all been asked to read this so if you haven't stop coughing and go and do it. These are The Ten Commandments and are not optional. Let me write it by your nipple in lipstick: http://www.majordomo.net/sinister/faq.html My job's to run the list and do a bit of prodding, so you'll have to forgive me for that and not take offence, and please not feel victimised. It's worked for a year, so I know what I'm doing now, and most people seem to like it; if you disagree come and see me. Your job is to just enjoy the list, and help it survive. And you do THAT by helping the balance between (a) and (b) above. Why are most music lists boring or irritating? Because this balance is hard to strike? Why is this one often not? Because most of you work really hard on the whole to pause before you post and think about whether what you're saying is of interest to the majority of 800 people listening. I can't help feeling just now that some are straying into spouting a little too much without thinking first (and this ISN'T aimed at anyone in particular so don't you DARE take offence!). Some threads are just getting too far from the source and thinned out. Quality and not quantity, otherwise no-one can keep up and everyone starts posting to a few friends. Then everyone leaves and I'm left with the washing up to do on my own. So this is a call to arms (again; it's worked before) to everyone to do their bit please now: this list is run on limited, borrowed resources, and on borrowings of my time; it's a Belle and Sebastian list, which means it's about people who like Belle and Sebastian, but we still have a focus. It's neither a strict news list for the band, nor a general music list, there are plenty of others that do that well and I can't afford the resources to support that, indeed you can start your own if you want something broader. So of course you can talk about other music, and indeed, sexually explicit bus rides, but please be public spirited to see when this has gone far enough. Anything else (honestly) lowers the chance of this list's survival. It's a balance and everyone (definitely me) will get it wrong at times, but trying's what counts. Do your bit. Don't post multiple posts with little content. Bundle up your thoughts for the day into one mail. I've said it before, in almost all circumstances, if anyone's posting more than two mails a day, you're probably getting something wrong unless your house is on fire, and everyone can see you are. Think before you post. Remember you'll be forgiven some funny personal stuff if you send it with a long general post which you put some time into too. Don't send jokes to the list or stuff with no personal content. Don't slag people off for fun, even if it's "ironic", because it isn't and I don't like it. Don't send knee-jerk responses, and if you ever find yourself thinking: "hey I'm groovy look at meeeeee!" when you hit send, go and ponder your sins and how obvious it is when someone else does it :) You can all sit back now and dunk your biscuits. And whichever people voted for me as a minor list crush, you can have bourbon creams but of course you have to ask me first :) I suspect mails like this won't earn me any more votes, unless someone's got a thing for schoolteachers. Yes the WWW is back - phew. Sorry for the break, I had to get me spanners out. But it means of course none of you have any excuse to be lazy anymore :) Do a little legwork on the WWW before you ask a question - there's masses of information about the band, releases, etc etc on the WWW pages linked from the Sinister page. A question pushed out to 800 people before you look is likely to excite a few muted grrrs. Francis surprisingly said: "I have been one of the many naughty people "booted" off the sinister list" - no you haven't mate! Aww I'm not mean honestly! It's a threat of course that I'll use if I have to, but it doesn't mean I ever quite have, and I'll only do it if the list's future's threatened. There have been lots of double posts to the list recently, can someone tell me why? I'm pretty sure it's not a problem this end... No mitten offers yet, I'm going to have to resort to offering sexual favours to knitting circles. philippe's little pink goldfish, honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 04:23:59 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:23:59 EST Subject: Sinister: B&S on the TV Message-ID: Hello everybody, Those were some very nice pictures curtesy of Lesley J. Miller! And I also enjoyed Genevieve's Judy post very very much.. And now, with my first ever post of importance, I bring you this lovely bit of news, if you don't already know it too: This Sunday (11/15) a B&S video will be aired on 120 Minutes at around 1 a.m. I don't know what video it will be, I only just read it on the Matador news. So there, did I make your day?? Will I get a crush vote now? Oooh I'm excited.. I've only seen their videos on 4x5 cm screens on the real video! Time to go. Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimmybryant at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 06:24:54 1998 From: jimmybryant at xxx.com (jimmy bryant) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 01:24:54 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Lord Antony mp3 Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981114012454.0077da84@pop.mindspring.com> I have never made an mp3 before, but since so many of you wanted to hear this song I learned how to make one. It turned out ok, I think. I don't have a web site to put it on, and it's taking up too much space on my hard disk so I really can't keep it. So I have decided to send it to the first 10 fellows within our own perverse little corner of cyberville who send me an email with "Lord Antony" in the subject line. What you do with it is up to you, but you have to promise to buy this song, once it does become available to us masses. jimmy thin_king melted tolberone under your dress And for your convenience, here, once again, are the approximate lyrics: (with buckets of thanks, kisses, and crushes to/on Roberta) Lord Ant(h)ony Anthony, bullied at school get your own back now you are cool or are you still drunk enough though you're a tough it's all gone wrong again you got to hold hands) But the teachers got no control Boys aren't lying You will stay quiet Or you will die Tony at the back of the gym Smoke another one, the chances are slim, 'Cause here they come again They got you on the prowl You're tasting blood again At least it's your own When will you realize it doesn't pay To be smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys, Shut your mouth, start kicking the football, Bang on the teeth you were out for a week You may as well take it in the guts, it could get worse just take it in the guts, it could get worse just take it in the guts, it could get worse just take it in the guts, it kind of hurts there (to me) You'll soon be old enough to leave the man Without a notion of a care You'll leave two fingers in the air to meager living Tony, you bit of a mess melted tolberone under your dress But if the kids could see you they would pass you right by The mascara running over your eye Why don't you realize it doesn't pay To be smarter than teachers, smarter than most boys, Shut your mouth, start kicking the football, Bang on the teeth you were out for a week. They call you lord Antony but hey it could be worse Lord Antony but hey it could be worse Lord Antony but hey it could be worse Lord Antony but hey it kind of suits you anyway You'll soon be old enough to leave the man Without a notion of a care You'll leave two fingers in the air to meager living +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimmybryant at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 07:49:43 1998 From: jimmybryant at xxx.com (jimmy bryant) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 02:49:43 -0500 Subject: Sinister: lord antony mp3 offer closed Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981114024943.00685cac@pop.mindspring.com> sorry but i just found out that i can't an mp3 through my regular e-mail, because it is too large, i'll try to figure something out jimmy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 06:53:53 1998 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 23:53:53 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Drunken Non Sequitor Message-ID: A most beautiful piece of nonsense if i've ever read one.But I got a legitimately drunken non sequitor for ya: Costumes for the soul have a weight most angels wouldn't carry. After a long night at my favorite Brooklyn bar, trying to purvey the merits of B&S oh-so-subtle stylings to the likes of the usual clang & thunder, i realized that not only was i incredibly misplaced, but that this surge of blurry insight could be traced back to my childhood where i had often maintained a certain distance from any and every one i knew. The absolute beauty in it grew from my overwhelming need to argue a moot point to deafened ears, leaving me with little more than an aching in my heart for the place in which i once found a little understanding. A place long since passed from view as the swirling metropolis absorbs both heart & mind. ???? emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 08:03:47 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 03:03:47 EST Subject: Sinister: feeling left out. Message-ID: <582e7b33.364d3963@aol.com> okay kids! am i the only one in la who didn't post what they ate for lunch and hasn't been to see the beachwood sparks? i have heard of them, isn't that enough! i am amazed that no one has commented upon my article that i posted. was it that bad? or were you all stunned into submission by its wonder? if you have something humiliating to say, then by all means, please e-mail me directly and not post it here! :) and no one wants to know who my secret crush is? when i am willing to admit it in public and not be cowardly? maybe by some odd mishap, my posts aren't making it on the list! :) well enough of my witty humour. what i want to know is, the website address where the "is it wicked" video is so i can see it. and if anyone is doing a video tree for the yanks, i want a copy! i haven't seen any of their videos! :( *sob* in need of something good to pick up the shite day she had teaching rotten 1st graders, jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From larissa at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 10:21:27 1998 From: larissa at xxx.com (Larissa Slurpee) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 02:21:27 -0800 Subject: Sinister: bus stories, etc. Message-ID: <364D59A7.7799FA37@geocities.com> Wooo, my second ever post. I'm dreadfully behind in my digests, so these topics are probably long gone, but I wanted to add a bit too. I ride the bus to and from school every day, and it's 40 minutes both ways. B&S are definately perfect bus music! They just fit the scene perfectly. Last year, my friend Sarah saw a boy on the bus who was just so drop-dead gorgeous she couldn't stop talking about him. Then a few days later, I saw a boy in the libraray and couldn't wait to tell her. Turns out it was the same boy. Oh gawd. He'd make anyone need a cold shower. Anyway, we dubbed him Bus Boy and saw him only once after that, at this silly teenager gig thingy. Sarah and I took turns standing and sitting next to him so we could smell him. Also, on Saturday, I was in Vancouver with my friend Nick, and we went to see the movie "Happiness" (Everyone go see it!), and he got LLPJ. If he was on the list, he'd be my crush. Well, he is anyway. It's pretty great. He's wonderful, and he loves B&S more than I do, I'm sure. ALSO, I went to that same record store on Wednesday and I saw a girl behind the counter wearing a Study at Stow with B&S shirt! I was flabberghasted and only managed to point at it and mention it to my friend. But she was too cool anyway. Whee! ~Larissa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Sat Nov 14 12:45:02 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:45:02 +-100 Subject: Sinister: The girls band Message-ID: <01BE0FCF.8A1484C0@Abonado-195-53-43-86.cat.es> Sorry for posting this message here, Paul, but I need to get in touch with somebody: Andras, The guy who wanted the "poupee de cire...." cover, please send me your address, because I lost it. begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@8,`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`$P!```!````# ````,``# #````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```'0`````````M3O"P"QW$!JAO @`*RI6PA4```!K%TNW-$O2$;$'1$53 M5 ``1( ```````"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'-I;FES=&5R(&UA:6QI M;F<@;&ES= !33510`'-I;FES=&5R0'!H+F5D+F%C+G5K`!X``C !````!0`` M`%--5% `````'@`#, $````5`````' ``0````\```!4:&4 at 9VER;',@ M8F%N9 ```@%Q``$````6`````;X/Q#;I2B3C^WN^$=*Q"41%4U0`````'@`> M# $````%````4TU44 `````>`!\,`0```!T````P,CDQ.30R83 Q0&%B;VYA M9&]S+F-P;'5S+F5S``````,`!A :``@0`0```&4```!3 M3U)2649/4E!/4U1)3D=42$E334534T%'14A%4D4L4$%53"Q"551)3D5%1%1/ M1T5424Y43U5#2%=)5$A33TU%0D]$63I!3D1205,L5$A%1U595TA/5T%.5$5$ M5$A%(E!/55#I``````(!"1 !````2P$``$'#_``H! 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sat Nov 14 13:02:02 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (David Kitchen) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:02:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: video tape tree and mp3's Message-ID: <364D7F4A.17097F4A@jeepster.co.uk> after a flurry of messages regarding a few people willing to distribute bootlegs of the promo video's and mp3 files of unreleased material we feel we have been (yet again) forced to state jeepster's policy on this matter. it is illegal according to home recording act and the copyright laws to reproduce in any known media material for which you neither have permission or own the original of. now, we have repeatedly stated that we will ignore audio cassette copies, as being realistic tape copies do happen and would be too hard to enforce. but, we will not ignore CDR, DAT, minidisc, MP3, Real Audio, Real Video, Wav, Video cassette, Beta Video or any other known media digital or otherwise which is used to illegally distribute any material which is covered under international copyright law by jeepster recordings ltd. the action we take regarding such action will always be swift, our lawyers have already taken action against a couple of parties involved in the distribution of material of belle and sebastian, and right now we're taking action against 3 websites/ISP's and 1 record shop. we will not hesitate to use legal action on the internet to enforce copyright. you should be especially wary of using company resources or educational resources (e-mail provided by your employer/university, etc) to advertise your intention to distribute recordings for which the above applies. aside from the fact that many employers and educational facilities view the mis-use of their resources as gross misconduct, you may also like to know that as the ISP's/providers of the service can be held accountable for the use/mis-use of their service under law in most western countries (providing the service provider is aware of the situation, which we woudl make them aware of - the result of this is you may find that your service provider may monitor your use of their service), obviously you could find yourself in a stickier mess than you can envision. now, again, we will state that audio cassette's, fine, we will tolerate these. but anything else and we have to take action. i don't want to take action, i never do, and as much as i remain an obsessive fan, one of my roles at jeepster is to prevent bootlegging via the internet. and when it comes down to it, i will do my job. so again a plea, simply do not give me or jeepster reason to take action, please! here's hoping that this doesn't fall on deaf ears, as i really don't want to be a permanent party pooper round these parts. cheers david kitchen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From babyblu at xxx.uk Sat Nov 14 12:59:34 1998 From: babyblu at xxx.uk (Rory Mackie) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:59:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: No 1. in heaven. References: <199811132309.XAA23642@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <364D7EB6.50C9@gold.globalcafe.co.uk> ...I'll be > interested to actually hear all of the EP version of Modern Rock song, > since the lyric sheet on the website says, "I'm only lucid when I'm > writing songs" rather than "I'm only lucid when I'm riding buses". If > he sings it that way, I know someone who will be very, very > disappointed. Oh. My. God. I heard the new EP last night thanks to lovely David and Katrina (Happy Birthday!) and it is just the most amazing, warm,gorgeous collection of songs I've come across in years! Anyone slightly dissapointed by Twattybus will be thrilled and relieved and fall in love all over again. The version of Modern Rock Song is just lush, completely realising the songs potential and the second track (forgotten the name, sorry) is possibly the most Nick Drake yet, very similar to Northern Skies, a *huge* compliment BTW, with a soupcon of 'tangled up in blue' era Dylan thrown in for good measure. Lovely, lovely, lovely. *sigh* I don't remember if the lyrics have been fiddled about with though as I was too busy curling up into a little ball of bliss and rolling around on the carpet. Funkyseb got a letter complaining about the abolition of Routemaster buses printed in the Evening standard. Just *how* B&S is that? Bastard. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Sat Nov 14 13:46:29 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:46:29 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: B&S Dream In-Reply-To: <364D7F4A.17097F4A@jeepster.co.uk> Message-ID: Well to lighten the mood after David's latest telling-off, thought you might like to know about a dream I had on Friday morning. Actually you probably don't want to know, but I'll tell you anyway. I'm like that. Basically, I was standing in a large hall (I don't know where it was, but it looked alarmingly like London Victoria train station), with several of you lovely listees. We'd met up to go to a B&S gig later that evening, and I think we were on our way there. And anyway, every few minutes someone would come up to us and ask if we had any spare tickets for the gig that they could buy off us. And every time David would tell them that there were still tickets on sale at the box office round the corner (a non-sold out B&S show? It must have been a dream...). But the weird thing was, the people who were asking for tickets were almost all celebrities, including such luminaries as Robert Smith from The Cure and even Paul Weller. Bizarre... (Is having a dream with Paul Weller in a sign of mental illness?) Big Stu PS Come on, tell me who you've got a crush on, you know you want to... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Sat Nov 14 14:40:07 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:40:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Public transport Message-ID: Anyone interested in one last bus story involving lighting farts? Thought not, but I'll tell you anyway. A friend of mine (and this was always going to 'a friend' wasn't it?) was the talk of the sixth form one morning because after the school bus has deposited its passengers, he was left on it - and seemingly driven off somewhere by the driver. When he eventually came in that afternoon, he told us that he'd been taken to the bus company's head office to receive a bollocking for appearing to start a small fire on the back seat. In the face of an intensive grilling ("Why did you do it, boy? CONFESS! CONFESS!") he eventually told the bus people that he'd been trying to light a fart. He giggled, they giggled. Then they fell about laughing and said "...oh if you'd only said so" and gave him a Ribble buses calendar for his troubles! Just something to bear in mind, if you ever find yourself on an arson charge. Martin Horsfield, vulgarian +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From his8jm at xxx.UK Sat Nov 14 14:02:42 1998 From: his8jm at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:02:42 GMT Subject: Sinister: bus story. Message-ID: <199811141403.OAA10162@mps3.leeds.ac.uk> I've taken loads of buses in my time, it's how I get to school, and I don't have any funny stories. Although when I was about 12 on bus 32 on Kilburn High Road, a drunken man went under the wheel, and me and my sister were kept at the back so as not to see the beautiful pictures. Ilove Kilburn for that, always something goin' on. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 15:59:03 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:59:03 EST Subject: Sinister: Hi Heather Glam Rock Girl Message-ID: <> Yes, it's Pete from down on the south side of Chicago. I haven't seen the VG movie yet but am planning to. Good to see the movie is based loosely on Marc Bolan (godfather of glam, goth & punk). T.Rex on the sdtrk. was a boost too. Even Marc is alongside B&S on the Acid House sdtrk. Maybe he'll finally get his due and rediscovery of popularity stateside now that glam is trendy? Glad to see you liked the B&S recommendation. I've haven't heard of anyone that really hated their music after hearing them. How's Cali? Off to work now. Ciao. Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 14 18:13:59 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:13:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The wilted video tape tree? Message-ID: <364DC867.9A9B5F68@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello, Well, I feel the need to explain myself on this one. Firstly, I had no idea that music videos were copyrighted. I guess it makes sense that they were, but it surprises me that it's illegal to distribute them, because in general, they are rarely sold by the label or band. I can actually recall someone from a reasonably-sized band who MADE me a tape of all their videos. In the end, I just wanted to see some of B&S' videos, I wasn't trying to make some money out of the ordeal. I thought instead of just pleading someone on the list for a compilation of B&S' videos on NTSC, I'd try to help everyone in the US out. It's still sort of difficult for me to understand why the videos being distributed would be a problem, unless Jeepster is considering a videos compilation in NTSC as well as Pal. I'd certainly purchase such a product, rather than going the route of dubbing, should one come into existance. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Sat Nov 14 18:55:14 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 18:55:14 GMT Subject: Sinister: Me, me, me Message-ID: <199811141855.SAA08216@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Hey people It's not a bus story, rather it happened on a train, and should the person I sat next to be on the list, I'd be more than grateful that I've been given a chance to explain all to you (it's unlikely, and given that I can't remember the first thing about whoever it was, there's very little chance of me ever being able to explain). First things first....I'm diabetic, or as my dad says, I'm a person with diabetes....(awwww dads, they rule). Oh yeh, and if anyone is a fan of Wildbrain on radio 4, my dad's a contestant, and gets to say "arse" on radio!!! But that's by the by. Yep, this fine day I went to get a milkshake from Burger King at Queen Street St (Glasgow), but the bastard machine was on the blink as per usual. This was to be my downfall. Anyway, I got on the train destined for Polmont, a station half an hour from Glasgow and about 20 minutes from Edinburgh...... I remember very little about the ride. I came to in a little Edinburgh office sitting in a wheelchair, surrounded by police, the contents of my bags spilled out over the desk, and I cried!! Quite a lot!! In dashed the ambulance men, gave me a shot of glucagon, and dashed back out (probably on their way to a proper emergency)......turns out that due to to much insulin, and not enough sugar (because Burger King couldn't get me a milkshake!!!), I'd gone "weird" on the train!!!! AAAAH, and I do feel for the poor person sitting next to me, 'cos I bet she thought I was a junkie and I bet there was a whole lotta tutting, and aaaargh, I feel bad. But I suppose it's yet another story I can add to my list of hypoglycaemic episodes!!! If anyone ever sees someone wearing a B+S cartoon t-shirt, or Stow T-shirt going crazy in Glasgow, it's me. Please stop and say hello. Even suggest I have some sugar. And if Stuart M reads this, yes, you may write a little ditty about me, I satisfy every criteria......... 1) I take medicinal drugs 2) I am (well, was) a student 3) I am filling my fat face with every different kind of cake 4) I am beautiful (c'mon listees, (sympathy) crush-votes for me) 5) I am slightly mental why is it I only write when I've had a skinful.....I am sorry. Byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Love Sarah xx ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mphintz at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 19:41:33 1998 From: Mphintz at xxx.com (Mphintz at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:41:33 EST Subject: Sinister: spell h-o-n-e-y Message-ID: <697ab95b.364ddced@aol.com> Mick McMick, if that is his real name, wrote about Hunny vs Honey... "Hunny" would be the Irvine Welsh or Alan Warner modern Scotland type. "Honey" is the EM Forster green pasture England type. Mick, I can only assume you were misspelling on purpose--if not, I am afraid we will have to take drastic measures. (You wouldn't suffer--it would be quick and painless). For the sake of cardie, scarf-wearers the world over, let's keep it as "Honey". I would never put hunny in my tea, but I would gladly put in honey. The world has enough misspellings already. It isn't any surprise that Sarah/Fluffy had eight crush votes--the other day in #sinister she was offering people bong hits. I don't think it would have made anyone feel anything; it was all 1's and 0's. At least I had one crush; too bad my name was spelt incorrectly (see above). Did anyone else expect Stuart David to be more, erm, volatile at the shows? I thought he would walk around in a puffy shirt with a pirate sword, muttering "pish" at every step. Instead he stood at the back of the stage. He wore the same tshirt at the DC and one of the NYC shows. Perhaps he had two... Living and loving Mr. Matthew Manners +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 19:43:56 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:43:56 EST Subject: Sinister:Charlie Brown and B&S epsiode Message-ID: Hello Kiddies, Well the other day When I was listening to The Beatles and I had watched The South Prk Christmas Special(Hilarious! its worth renting!) and I remmbered Charlie Brown Witch I usre to watch everyday and get Ear drops(i had lots of ear problems when I was littel) and I'd lay down and watch charlie brown Anyways I remmber The one where I thinks its where Charlie Brown goes to the spelling B and they Play The beach boys and have Photos of The beatles and others anyways, I was thinking They Should Make an Epsiode like that and Have belle & Sebastian music and Havwe Pictures of Noel Gallagher and Wee Chris and others like in charlie brown. Anyone Like my idea? P.S. I got Moon Safari by AIR yesterday and It Is indeed A SHAG ALBUM! -Damon +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blurfannj at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 20:08:04 1998 From: Blurfannj at xxx.com (Blurfannj at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:08:04 EST Subject: Sinister: list crush Message-ID: <9cea4b1.364de324@aol.com> Ladies and gentlemen who are sinister folk I must emerge from lurking for just one moment to proudly announce my list crush, albeit very late in the game the lovely and talented ms. sarah wheeler from glasgow rocks! plain and simple ok you can go back to what you were doing now bye eeeth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Sat Nov 14 23:08:48 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:08:48 -0800 Subject: Sinister: disgusting dreams, etc Message-ID: <000a01be1023$bd51b160$3811020a@rebelstrange> Yay!!!!! I can't WAIT to see a b/s video actually on MTV the bastards better do something right! that show has become so crap i can hardly stand to leave it on for over 10 minutes because after hearing the "prevue" of what bands are going to be played that nite, i surrender in disgust and boredom. not to mentiong that every week they have some lardy band like Mighty mighty Bosstones, or depeche mode(oooh !) or 311 sitting in the big packing crates, or whatever, blabbing about frat boy fun and listening to whoever-the-host-is's stupid questions. Let it be known far and wide, that i shall wait before teh television on this night, with my VCR champing at the bit, praying for "is it Wicked"...... thanks paul hunny for setting us straight....... thanks to whoever posted the Love Bus story, that was just divine..... thanks to whoever has looked at my page and given me nice comments, and i entreat anyone who has not to go look at it right now, because they're really really good.......honest!! (and you can see what i look like, in one of the shots.....teehee*) I had a little Moment the other day. someone sent me an email entitled "Isobel any use on icicles?" (i'm sorry i forget which person wrote that, but i'm keeping you in mind....)) so naturally that day i set out to school with that question in my brain, and while driving i came up with the amusing concept that, were Isobel to journey to the North Pole(or indeed, any other pole), half the earth 's land would surely end up under water within the day. while i was relishing this clever idea, and thus feeling rather naughty myself, i was startled by the approach of a freight truck, painted on the side with the words "Campbell Mattress Co.". Inexplicably, i felt a deep shame. apologies to everyone for this prospective smut. I had a bizarre b/s dream. I was attending a concert in some southern area of the USA, with a few friends of mine. our seats werent' very good. when we all turned around to see the show start, there wasn't any rehearsal or opening band, but as we were seated by the side of the venue a little door opened, and stuart M. pulled the group of me and my friends into a small room, where he was playing a mini-set by himself accompanied by only a preprogramed synthesizer that made tinkly noises. he sang about 5 songs as we sat on the floor in such close quarters. before he began, a manager/producer type guy walked in and advised him on somehting. stu had been eating a large ketle of vegetable soup at the time, the manager stuck a hand in his mouth and immediately he vomited into a big tin kettle, it was very colorful. he seemed amused by my reaction. they informed us that vomiting was a helpful tool in preparing the vocal cords. his hands were covered in it so while he was singing and he took my hand at one point in a song, i got ti all over my arms. I was wearing soem sort of gauzy night gown with black garters under it and trying to cover myself up. I kept confusing stuart with Damon from Blur, which now is a disturbign thought to me, so his name may have actually been damon at some pt in the dream. later the show started and they began with a dress-up pantomime to "mary jo" which was funny, but i was worried cos Isobel was no where to be seen. Sarah was only on stage once or twice, and they had two other girls out playing that i had never seen before. i began to wail and moan because i couldnt' see Isobel and she must be sick and have gone back home and i wouldn't get to settle my score and actually talk to her. after the show someone that we knew died in a car crash that was very gory, and so we had to go home and couldnt' stay to talk to the band. apologies to Stuart M., who I dont 'honestly believe goes around vomiting on people. If i ever saw anyone in a study at stow t-shirt, i woudl probably have a heart attack. if anyone sees me and i'm wearing mine, please give me a big sloppy kiss. I know it's irrelevant, but i wish there were sinisterites around here. i was thiinking how fun it would be to go out to a club or a public place with people who are actualy interesting and clever. there dont' seem to be many around here. *sigh* I think i would date anyone on this list once, even a boy. (just once, and no snogging mind you) Living alone, lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From faw1 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 14 21:52:13 1998 From: faw1 at xxx.edu (Francisco Alberto Wong) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 16:52:13 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: re: Cassette, anyone? Message-ID: I have been in vain trying to find the cassette version of "The Boy w/the Arab Strap" And have discovered it is only available in the UK. Would anyone be kind enough to help me with this quandry? I would be ever grateful. francisco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 21:42:11 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 13:42:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981114214211.8058.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> I've been keeping silent about bus stories because I didn't think I had any (haven't really spent time on a bus since I was about 7), but alix's story suddenly brought back several. The time some kid in my class had a birthday and we all got to bring home balloons, and one of the big kids burst mine when it was about an inch from my face with a sharpened pencil; the time Aldo Beradi tore the lid off my lunchbox because he was a big moron; perhaps worst: the time some older kid told me to give the finger to this girl sitting across from us. I refused, because while I was unable to articulate what it meant I knew it was nasty. He said "No, no, it doesn't mean that anymore. It's a good thing. Besides, if you don't, I'll twist your arm." So I did, and he said "What a rude kid you are" and twisted my arm. Thanks, Alix, for those lovely memories. aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "What makes most people feel happy leads us headlong into harm." --The Smiths _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Sat Nov 14 20:47:35 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 20:47:35 +-100 Subject: Sinister: Video Tapes Message-ID: <01BE1022.D1F9E3E0@Abonado-195-53-40-136.cat.es> Along with Mick, I just wanted to say that I had no "filthy lucre" intention of earning money or anything else by taping the "Is it wicked..."video. Furthermore, my local video club does not copy video tapes if they are no longer than one hour, so i?m afraid that it wouldn?t be possible. I love the "Modern rock song" sleeve. I think that someone asked it before, but will it have another short story, like in 369 or in "LLPJ" ? begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@\6`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`$P!```!````# ````,``# %````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```'0`````````M3O"P"QW$!JAO @`*RI6PA4```!K%TNW-$O2$;$'1$53 M5 ``1( ```````"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'-I;FES=&5R(&UA:6QI M;F<@;&ES= !33510`'-I;FES=&5R0'!H+F5D+F%C+G5K`!X``C !````!0`` M`%--5% `````'@`#, $````5````] `0B !P`8```` M25!-+DUI8W)O`' ``0````P```!6:61E;R!487!E`!X,`0````4` M``!33510`````!X`'PP!````'0```# R.3$Y-#)A,#% 86)O;F%D;W,N8W!L M=7,N97,``````P`&$'11PT$#``<05P$``!X`"! !````90```$%,3TY'5TE4 M2$U)0TLL24I54U1704Y414143U-!651(051)2$%$3D\B1DE,5$A93%5#4D4B M24Y414Y424].3T9%05).24Y'34].15E/4D%.651(24Y'14Q314)95$%024Y' M5$@``````@$)$ $````(`@``! 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Sun Nov 15 02:41:39 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 21:41:39 EST Subject: Sinister: the stylin' bus Message-ID: <53a28b41.364e3f63@aol.com> hi, firstly, i'd like to say that i'm wearing a pair of jeans that are a bit faded and turned up at the bottom, a white tortoise shirt with little turtle fireworks on the front, and a red cardigan, which sets off my red hair quite nicely. okay, now for the bus stories: i've got plenty, because the bus drivers in toronto all seem to be nutty. one time, i was on the subway in the winter and this guy got on and sat down beside me, he was probably about 35 years old, and he was sweating profusely - like, it was running down his face and his shirt was soaked. when i told people that i was all creeped out by this, they said he probably had ebola. there's a bus driver on my regular route that calls out all the stops, which is fairly normal, but then he also lists everything else that would possibly be of interest in the area. for example "next stop, mccowan road, scarborough general hospital - get off here if you're not feeling so good. also down the street, there's a shopper's drug mart. transfer here to go to the scarborough town center - if you haven't started your christmas shopping yet, this is great place to go. also, santa has arrived at the mall, so all you kids go and tell him what you want for christmas". he's sometimes on a different route, and we pass this catholic church and he says "next stop, st. thomas more catholic church. get off here if you have sinned, 5 hail marys and a transfer required to get to heaven" i probably shouldn't even mention the driver that started "the wheels on the bus" singalong. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From m.wimbury at xxx.uk Sun Nov 15 12:28:03 1998 From: m.wimbury at xxx.uk (MATTHEW WIMBURY) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 12:28:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Lots of musicy stuff. Message-ID: <199811151228.MAA19930@unixc.lancs.ac.uk> Hi all.. I've not posted for a good while and hey, may not again for another good while, but here's my monthly update of urgently exciting things. Firstly, overdue thanks to Kevan (again) for the Tindersticks tapes and his magnificent tape tree one, and Philippe for the Felt one. I have been reading most posts over the last few weeks though when i get a bit busy i have to skip some and so only go to ones with interesting titles. This means looking at stuff about B+S and Nick Drake and other musicy things and missing out blasted arsing bus stories, but never mind. I'm sure they're really interesting. I was interested to read big boss bloke's post about what people send in. I must admit i seem to be one of those boring people who only want to discuss lovely music and b+s music in particular.....but i shouldn't complain if people want to talk about buses really should i because I don't HAVE to read it. About Nick Drake (yes sorry i know it was days and days ago but I've had my girlfriend visiting and she does get bored if i sit around reading and posting to sinister all the time and ignoring her!) you can't go wrong with any of the albums, but there are bigger differences between them than people say. I think the Way To Blue intro is a brilliant way to get into him as it takes a bit from each album. As the first album Five Leaves Left is a good, though I'm not sure I'd start with Pink Moon, even though it's my favourite, as i think its easier to get into his earlier stuff rather than this stark depressed acoustic album. Time Of No Reply, being a hotch potch of stuff written throughout his career, would be a good if odd place to start too, and contains my fave Drake song, Clothes Of Sand. Finally...I have a couple of requests. Firstly, could some kind person mail me and tell me about the Pastels, brief history and discography etc...and could someone please copy me the Kid Loco album??? Pretty please??? Well that's enough from me for now. Matt PS Can't wait for the new single even though Id have preferred Middle Distance Runner to be a single instead. "boo to the business world" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seaborne at xxx.nl Sun Nov 15 15:28:04 1998 From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 16:28:04 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Jeepster site? Message-ID: <000a01be10ac$8b2f3a20$44866dc2@koen> Hi, is it me or is the Jeepster site down? For the past few days (since Friday I believe) I can't get through to the site, and I so much looked forward to catch a glimpse of the new EP (it is up, isn't it?). On a unrelated note, I could use some help with my weekly internet music quiz. This weeks stumpers are sleeve 1 and photo 1 & 2 (http://users.skynet.be/volders/foto0602.htm). Email me privately if you got answers or clues, thanks in advance, Koen Oh, I splashed out on "The Acid House", and I must say Slow Graffiti is quite lovely. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billmoss at xxx.com Sun Nov 15 15:39:30 1998 From: billmoss at xxx.com (Bill Moss) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 10:39:30 EST Subject: Sinister: what's fun in glasgow Message-ID: <19981115153930.2188.qmail@hotmail.com> Could anyone recommend good record stores, clubs/pubs (where I might meet sinister people), things to do, etc. in Glasgow? I'll be visiting this week and don't want to get stuck in the city center. Bill http://www.geocities.com/~billmoss/main.html ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Sun Nov 15 16:06:51 1998 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:06:51 PST Subject: Sinister: my vote for "MUSICAL UNDERDOG WE SHOULD ALL BE LISTENING TO!" Message-ID: <19981115160651.10807.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey Sinisterines:) Why didn't anyone reply to my previous email ("B&S here in Australia?")??? David and Katrina STOP IGNORING ME!!!:) Reply Pretty please! Also, for a while back there, someone seemed to have taken the bait I laid down in an old email and was writing about underrated people that all us listees should have a listen to. Then, no more:( So I have taken up the baton myself and decided to reveal my vote for UNDERDOG WHO DESERVES MORE RECOGNITION. I hope Honey ("Honey", a very sexy and suggestive name! Then again all B&S fans are) won't mind this. He told me he's a piece of fluff actually (or is that supposed to be a secret?), and he did say "no boring music lists" but that if one could actually describe WHY people should listen to a particular act, then it's ok. So I hope what I'm gonna say fits that description. My vote goes to Tanya Donelly. Why you ask? Well besides being as beautiful as a fairy queen, Tanya was one of the pivotal women behind alternative music in the 90's. In the seminal Throwing Muses, she and her half-sister Kristin made a contribution to music as important as their labelmates, Pixies; though it's only the Pixies who g But it was in Belly, the band Tanya fronted, (not just played second fiddle to like she did in Muses and Breeders) that her star rose to ascendancy. Belly's "Star" is still one of my favourite albums of all time (yes yes B&S are also on my all time fave list, so don't throw those rotten veges!) I've not heard an album that melded extremely unforgettable tunes and melodies to such dark and weird fairytales with so much success. Its very subversiveness has never been matched (though Garbage and Black Box Recorder have come close). It frustrates me so when I read articles about the women who shaped alternative rock today and I see no mention of her. It's always PJ Harvey, Courtney love, Kim Deal and Kim Gordon. While all those women are absolutely amazing too and I love them immensely, it's as if it's saying Tanya wrote pop songs and wasn't as outspoken about her gender, so she doesn't count. My friends who have heard of Belly also carelessly dismiss them. ARRGGH! It's like saying on a first listen, B&S are tw So listees, go out and buy "Star" and be reduced to tears by the powerfully surreal and sinister fairy tales (Brothers Grimm indeed) and of course, whirl dervishly to the amazing tunes contained therein. Their follow-up "King" is also excellent-rockier and less sparse, but unfortunately also a bit more conventional and less cohesive. Her solo album called heh! "Lovesongs for Underdogs" (Belly split up after "King":( is you guessed it, brilliant. Though a bit too happy for me personally as a Tanya fan (she needs to return to dark and depressive imagery), it contains more innovation and great songs than all those moronic Alanis-ites put together. Her EP, her first solo outing, "Sliding and Diving" is breathtaking too. You get the idea. So listees don't crucify me for writing so much; I get very passionate about my music. Also, don't tell me I should go off to a 4AD list, they already know the wonders of Belly and Tanya (though maybe I should go there and extol the virtues of Belle and Sebastian!:) Instead heed my advice and give Tanya a listen, you won't be disappointed! Also, hope others are gonna take up the bait (is that correct English?) and extol the virtues of an act they think has been cruelly underrated by the music press (Though back when "Star" was released it appeared on every music mag's "best of" list) Honey, forgive me if I have sinned Seeya:) Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Nov 15 16:45:47 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 08:45:47 PST Subject: Sinister: Hello,Nurse! Message-ID: <19981115164548.4203.qmail@hotmail.com> dear list, Hello :) ! Flasher John wrote: >>even those people in raincoats who flash >>you and then dive out the emergency exit! > >I wish that was me. I don't go on buses though. I was reading other bus stories and mine don't sound as exciting anymore! Well I don't run into flashers a lot,so you know it's a big thing.And I thought it was funny that people give eggs as fare! Eggs! Anyways...those are all I have of stories from the city bus..I don't go on the city bus much...but i have taken the damn school bus since grade 3!An hour to school and an hour back EVERY WEEK DAY! sniff.. in kidnergarten my grandpa used to pick me up from school (with pita bread and prunes...eeew prunes lunches from my grandma) and there's more stories there..all the hick boys,and one showed me a moose heart once,it was really gross....you want to be a flasher John? actually the other day,i went to get the newspaper and i put my mom's black raincoat on and i ran out in bare feet (COLD COLD COLD!) and i felt like a flasher,it was fun. i'm easily amused,can you tell!? >And I was being serious about Carter USM Genevieve. I loved >them when it was just Fruitbat, Jimbob and a drum machine. ahhh Jimbob...i'm going to share a special message..I wrote to Jimbob this: Take me back to England with you!I have a magical plan! Come back in August when I'm here and let me hide in your suitcase.I will clean your house if you like. and he wrote back: Hello,nice plan.I shall have to get a new suitcase,I've only got a bag with me now.Sorry you couldn't make it,lots of love, Jimbob X he never came back though...oh well. Whats with anti-ginger? I wish I had ginger hair! I want to be like Tag in the Pantene Pro-V commericals! Liz McDonald isn't ginger is she? that's more hairsprayed to death blonde i would think..and ooooh i hate her too! And that Sally! nasty bitch! i love Martin tho...(hellooooooooooo nurse) I got 2 magazines yesterday, the new Select.(more later) and Vanity Fair...I've never bought a Vanity Fair in my life before,I've only read them at the doc's office..but isn't Ewan gorgeous on the cover? Be proud ginger-heads! But why did they put dirt all over him (i don't mind actually,just curious) and why is he carrying a hen? Are there lots of Scottish men walking around in kilts with dirt all over them carrying hens? ....sigh and the Select...oh goodness it's Stuart MURDOCH who got the silver pants,I thought it was Stuart David..that's more his style..but little Stu! it's so weird..when Crispin Hunt came to Toronto he bought silver pants at le Chateua and HE didn't wear anything under them.Anyways...is Select trying to stir up gossip? well what am I SUPPOSED to believe with.. Turning back into the house,he eyes his companion lustfully. "Now,Ciara," he says,brandishing the whiskey bottle."What you probably need is a healthy drink of this." The door closes,no doubt leaving Stuart Murdoch to another evening of Christain Rock. ack!little stu is not supposed to do these things! He still thinks he came from a stork i thought! i blame those arms of sex. xoxox genevieve ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Sat Nov 14 15:07:48 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:07:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I know my way down the side streets now/videos... Message-ID: <364D9CC4.2B7AD2E7@bigfoot.com> Mick puts me in my place > Well, Sinister is red and LLPJ is purple, of course! My, GOD he's right! That's what I get for writing shit like that at work, where I don't (usually) keep the Belle and Sebastian catalog at hand. Well, good. That means B&S snobbery is now in full effect. Would someone who's lucky enough to have the Tigermilk LP call the album cover "gray" or what? > Come to think of it, Stuart M's songs (for > Stevie, Isobel & Stuart D's songs don't seem to be about people's > occupations as much) seem focused on daydreamers, students, > photographers, bussinesspeople, artists, members of Arab Strap, Line > Painters(?), long- and Middle-Distance Runners, assorted Stars of Track > and Field, authors, the sick, the blind, the users of medicinal drugs, > and of course, children. My good friend Laurie (my co-star in "Embarrassment on the Streets of Athens") is a living, breathing Stuart Murdoch lyric. By night, she loves the night life, she loves to boogie, big pockets for the pharmaceuticals, etc., but by day, she's an elderly care-giver at a home for alzheimer's patients. Plus, a billion and one tragic romances and even more interesting tragic flings. If Stuart's subject well ever starts drying up, I've got her number. And this whole line painting thing is a total mystery... That's all, I swear... ~Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sun Nov 15 17:12:34 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:12:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Jeepster site? References: <000a01be10ac$8b2f3a20$44866dc2@koen> Message-ID: <364F0B82.9D447796@jeepster.co.uk> Koen wrote: > > Hi, > > is it me or is the Jeepster site down? For the past few days (since Friday I > believe) I can't get through to the site, and I so much looked forward to > catch a glimpse of the new EP (it is up, isn't it?). nope it's not down at all, but i have been doing lots of work on it, there's about 30 or 40 small changes, which i bet no-one notices, actually i bet people only find 3 or 4 of them! all my work for nothing! anyhow, it is up, and one of the major changes is the URL to the main page, if anyone has links to this on their site could they please change it, instead of: http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/main/index.htm it is now: http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/main/index.shtml oh, and to the people who attempted to block vote in the booth on saturday night, hah! you've been caught and all of your votes have been deleted. and whilst i was in there i added 'lord anthony' to the voting booth, so you can vote on that now (as i notice 17 of you already have). sound for 'the gate' and 'i know where the summer goes' will be up on monday. the rest of the new e can be found in the discography section! cheers david kitchen ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : merchandising and websites : jeepster records http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Sun Nov 15 23:23:57 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 18:23:57 EST Subject: Sinister: wot no mail ! Message-ID: <3bb85ad9.364f628d@aol.com> whoa.. no sinister mail for over 6 hours.. I think Honey's lovely words may have hit home quite hard to some people. Anyway, as there's no mail i thought i'd post a little something about when i went to see B&S in New York. I was milling around outside the supper club at about 1pm on the first day of the gig. The roadies were all unloading the gear and i was being sad, hoping to catch a glimpse of some of my heroes. Anyway, after about half an hour of nothinness a man came out of nowhere and started to walk towards the side entrance, i wasn't really paying attention, but was wondering who it could be. It was then that he turned around and it was MadDog.. !! OMG i thought.. he looked at me, and not an inquisitive look, it was a hmmmm whats going on here look, and then looked at me again as if he knew what i was doing. I had my camera with me and a pen and piece of paper and thought i would get a nice piccy for my outings. But i just didnt have the courage to say anything. I just looked at him, gave a smile, and looked away shylie. How could i do that ! The only opportunity to give the "i just wanted you to know how much you mean to me, and what your music has done to me" speach and i chickened it.. I shall never forgive myself, and will hang my head in shame for being gutless :o( I shall now write on the board 100 times, "I am the most foolish person in the world, and deserve never to see Belle and Sebastian live again" Jamie xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 00:08:57 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:08:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: fonts are fun Message-ID: <0ruEHCAZ02T2Ewd$@subcult.demon.co.uk> In today's Observer, there's an article on 'What the fonts you use say about you'. Well, having seen the artwork for the new single, B&S' fonts appear to be saying 'THIS RECORD WILL APPEAL TO SMITHS FANS'. What happened to the understated lower case of TBWTAS? Or the compact captals (Impact perhaps?) of IYAFS? Perhaps the worst offender was the the florid handwriting font sported by 'Dog On Wheels', which made it look a little like an Interflora advert. I'm not asking for a bog-standard 48pt helvetica italic logo like Oasis', just a bit of typographical consistency and record sleeves which don't add too much fuel to the lazy 'they're the new Smiths, you know' theory. Martin Horsfield, critic +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 01:12:01 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 17:12:01 PST Subject: Sinister: i'm jumping like a jumping jack Message-ID: <19981116011202.27236.qmail@hotmail.com> hello there (o no me again!) all these bus stories are reminding me of the not so lovely bus i'm going to have to go on soon...kids are so filthy-mouthed nowadays...they look all sweet and innocent,then it's '(*^@$^^%@# you $)*&^#&* *^#*%(&^#%^!' and they try and claw atcha...and my bus drivers have sordid affairs,it's so sleazy,straight out of a pulp song...we have video cameras on our buses because we are 'bad kids' but the sad thing is our school board has no budget,so there's like this blinking red light and a 'YOU ARE BEING VIDEOTAPED' sign..yet there's no actual camera in the box. Megan,thankyou for aggreeing with my opionions on the Judy thing..i think his meanings are pretty straightforward....I'm really scared by this lady on SHOWCASE,everything is a metaphor for sexual liberation...I mean,I like horses,but i usually ride them fully clothed..actually,when i was younger i never had an imaginary friend,but i had an imaginary horse named cammy..i had these 2 best friends (or so I thought!) and one day they decided they wanted me out of their group,so i guess i just figured...'so what,i'll create me a horse' it is a form of escape,see! :) I've got little things on all the girls of belle and sebastian songs, I remember the first time reading about Judy it was like 'wow,stuart...you're reading my mind!' and Jane too...the guilt of being lazy and never feeling so good except when you're sleeping...it's so true....when i have to get up,it's pitch black..it feels so unnatural,i always envy my cats,they get to sleep the whole day,without a care in the world.....i mean it's a common thread with Stuart's girls isn't it? wanting to get away from it all,but no-one even knows? Expectations...that dreaded monday morning feeling....Mary Jo's life is never dull in her dreams.. and our girl Jane's run through the city...pretending she's making indie-rock videos...and Le Pastie girl "wouldn't you like to get away?" Stuart should do self-help shouldn't he! he's always there at the end reassuring them the halo surrounds them,they'll be doing fine,that there's a star lighting up the path and that it's someone's else's turn to go through hell..he'll make a fine husband...and i bet he'll help out with the dishes too. the other day,at Cat Heaven(all the strays of the city) in Parlement,I was watching one cat chase a black squirrel..i went over to observe,and the squirrel got up on it's hind legs and chased ME! i was terrified because i've heard stories that when you get rabies shots,they have to strap you down,you get a shot in the stomach,etc..when the squirrel leaped from the railing onto my head...thankfully,it was a friendly one,he was just searching for some food...thought that was rather belle-y sebish. A wise lovely Honey wrote: "let me write it by your nipple in lipstick" there should be more proverbs like that i think. love, genevieve,friend of squirrels ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 16 03:13:27 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:13:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: fonts are fun References: <0ruEHCAZ02T2Ewd$@subcult.demon.co.uk> Message-ID: <364F9857.F1B66CA3@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Martin Horsfield wrote: > What happened to the understated lower case of TBWTAS? Or the compact > captals (Impact perhaps?) of IYAFS? Perhaps the worst offender was the > the florid handwriting font sported by 'Dog On Wheels', which made it > look a little like an Interflora advert. > > I'm not asking for a bog-standard 48pt helvetica italic logo like > Oasis', just a bit of typographical consistency and record sleeves > which don't add too much fuel to the lazy 'they're the new Smiths, you > know' theory. I have to disagree 100% with this. When I look at the record sleeves, they all begin to appear like book covers to me. I don't know what it is about them, really. Well, all except 369. Personally I'm glad that Andy Symington isn't so boring as to use the same font on every cover. I'm also pleased he uses different colors, and different photographs. I suppose ALL of them could be identical, except the names of the songs. That would make me very unhappy. /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at oak.cats.ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 03:41:28 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:41:28 EST Subject: Sinister: what's fun in glasgow Message-ID: <44feb6e1.364f9ee8@aol.com> In a message dated 11/15/98 07:41:47 AM, billmoss at hotmail.com wrote: <> I was there in May for St Etienne and i loved going to Blob Shop across the street from the Garage - drinks were like 1.30 or something ridiculously cheap (OK, not as cheap as Mcr's Lazy Pig where drinks are 85p). also Fopp has a nice selection of stuff, even though it's all new. and I enjoyed Kelvingrove even though most people probably think it's lame, but I enjoyed visiting the museum there not to mention just walking through the grove, it's very pretty and picturesque. Not sure if this is helpful, at the worst you can hang out at Blob Shop and get locked for a very cheap price :-) xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 03:44:52 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 22:44:52 EST Subject: Sinister: query of mine. Message-ID: <8ee59bd8.364f9fb4@aol.com> hi peoples! okay here is what i want to know! why is it that on weekends especially the sinister list is not able to be downloaded on my computer and viewed? this is really starting to piss me off because i can't read what all you fine people are posting on the weekends! if anyone else with aol (god i hate them) has had this problem because sinsiter downloads as a winfile instead of as the normal notepad default let me know. also i wore my "boy with the arab strap" t-shirt today and got two guy's attentions. one was reading the select piece on them next to me at the virgin megastore, and the other was at the movies seeing "elizabeth" today. i am sure if i had the stow t-shirt (which is what i wanted but they just sold out of in medium before i could get it) i would have had more admirers. but two in la on the same day was quite nice! :) also has anyone else seen the movie "elizabeth" and found it funny that eric cantona the footballer is in it? i know i chuckled! :) another revelation of mine is that stuart m is actually "sinister" because he is left handed. this is what the word originally meant and only later did the evil connotation become applied. (because lefties can't be trusted) we also are considered to have bad taste, ie. being "gauche" means left in french. numerous other misnomers have befallen us, landing lefties in asylums and the oval office! i think i am going to start the revolution against the right hand world right now, starting with the where the mouse is located on my computer! i urge all other oppressed lefties to do so as well! :) the ever rebellous, sinister and gauche, jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 06:25:07 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 01:25:07 EST Subject: Sinister: MTV 120 Minutes premieres B&S video stateside tonight? Message-ID: <5833a681.364fc543@aol.com> Waiting for the video tonight as well as a new Mercury Rev vid too. Sitting patiently with the tv sound down on Primus, Fuel, Semisonic, etc.. with the stereo up blastin' the new 3cd set of the best of Alec Empire entitled "The Geist Of Alec Empire". Loud technorama ambient noise as I watch the boring vid flix waitin' for the B&S. This seems like the longest 120 minutes I ever spent I think except for years ago when they plugged the Auteurs video for two hours and it ended up being the last one of the night. This one may end up the same way. For all the recent smut list contributors, such waiting like this may compare to the longest climax that you may have ever had. Pete G. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kschaffe at xxx.Edu Mon Nov 16 06:37:58 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.Edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:37:58 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: MTV 120 Minutes premieres B&S video stateside tonight? In-Reply-To: <5833a681.364fc543@aol.com> Message-ID: Oh thank you, thank you, thank you, Belle and Sebastian, for making the cutest, sweetset, most adorably expressionistic video ever! What a nice break from grading papers! And a Mercury Rev video on the way! Yes yes yes yes yes! (interpret smuttishly, if appropriate) All this and a Modest Mouse show and a new Woody Allen film this coming weekend! What a nice Sunday evening. What a useless message. Sorry to clutter mailboxes all, just wanted to express my glee. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From komis at xxx.edu Mon Nov 16 06:35:58 1998 From: komis at xxx.edu (Dmitry Komis) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 00:35:58 -0600 Subject: Sinister: MTV 120 Minutes premieres B&S video stateside tonight? In-Reply-To: <5833a681.364fc543@aol.com> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981116003558.007e6a90@students.uiuc.edu> it was on, finally, after over an hour long wait...but where was lovely Isobel? It seemed like she was on for all of 5 seconds. And no introduction from Dave Holmes, it was the premiere and all... the video itself was beautful, so relaxing, and everything i thought it would be... the new Rufus Wainwright video was premiered as well, with 2 cameos from Melissa Auf Der Maur and Gwen Stefani..that was also quite good dmitry () At 01:25 AM 11/16/98 EST, you wrote: >Waiting for the video tonight as well as a new Mercury Rev vid too. Sitting >patiently with the tv sound down on Primus, Fuel, Semisonic, etc.. with the >stereo up blastin' the new 3cd set of the best of Alec Empire entitled "The >Geist Of Alec Empire". Loud technorama ambient noise as I watch the boring >vid flix waitin' for the B&S. > >This seems like the longest 120 minutes I ever spent I think except for years >ago when they plugged the Auteurs video for two hours and it ended up being >the last one of the night. This one may end up the same way. > >For all the recent smut list contributors, such waiting like this may compare >to the longest climax that you may have ever had. > >Pete G. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Etienne008 at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 06:45:31 1998 From: Etienne008 at xxx.com (Etienne008 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 01:45:31 EST Subject: Sinister: MTV 120 Minutes premieres B&S video stateside tonight? Message-ID: <2a96908b.364fca0b@aol.com> THE VIDEO FOR IS IT WICKED NOT TO CARE.. WAS.... SO GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!!!!!!!!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 11:31:56 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 11:31:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: list crush Message-ID: <199811161131.LAA03612@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> >I must emerge from lurking for just one moment to proudly announce my list >crush, albeit very late in the game > >the lovely and talented ms. sarah wheeler from glasgow rocks! > Oooooh I've gone all red!!! Ethan, now 800 people know that we are having cyber-sex! I hope my mum's not a listee. More embarrassment.....I was stopped at the door of the pub on Saturday night, and asked for identification!!!! AAAAH, I'm 25 for Christ's sake!!! And isn't it ironic (doncha think) that on entering, I noted that everyone in the pub was still at school. Mmmm, maybe I'm being harsh.....maybe everyone was, like me, 25, and had all been asked for ID, and were, for the whole night seething over the humiliation. Are Hanson in their thirties???? I like commas. Byeeee Young thing, Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 12:18:45 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:18:45 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Monday poem Message-ID: Hi listerines, Well, there were several contenders but in view of a recent list thread they were all seen off by this outsider, by "popular rock poet" of the 80s Steve Turner. Where is he now? Anyway, it's relevant if not technically brilliant (and I kind of relate to the last 4 lines). Sorry it's not one of mine Adrian but I thought it would be just a little egotistical. Oh, and I bequeath the duty to the Little Blond One, Mark Casarotto, for next week. To Those I Will Never Meet She sits over there on the bus on the train on the tube. She makes reading the Standard a difficult task. She is aware that I am reading between the lines and far beyond the margins. She adjusts herself for better presentation. I gain an interest in No Smoking signs and obscure shadows in the window. Obstructing the doors causes delay and can be dangerous. A station foreman can earn up to £X.40 -more with overtime. She notices my noticing. I give her profile left -a good one. My attitude - disinterested, harder to catch than mostmen. Do you? How far have? What is your? Have you ...ever wished introductions weren't needed? Our gazes meet like billiard balls...that fall into opposite pockets. The best jobs are always to be found in the Evening News. Wimbledon got off to a good start. A girl on the tube on the train on the bus got off at Golders Green. She left me wondering, whether I left her wondering, a poem like this, about me. Steve Turner Hope you liked it. Blessings and salutations, Archelita xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 10:03:54 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 10:03:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I know my way down the side streets now References: <364C9BD5.722103F@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Message-ID: <364FF88A.826B9014@jeepster.co.uk> hello ... Mick McMick wrote: > Well, Sinister is red and LLPJ is purple, of course! Tigermilk > is...erm...just Tigermilk. I always thought that the "Lazy Jane" EP is pink ... does anyone else remember ages and ages ago one of susannah's postings where she took polaroids of herself doing the covers of the albums/ep's? *sigh* way back when (actually, that could have been on the coolist? ... i don't remember) ... anyhow, i could swear that LJ is pink ... anyone else? tigermilk is pale blue. so there. :) cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 09:50:43 1998 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:50:43 +0000 Subject: Sinister: poetry makes nothing happen Message-ID: <001235F3.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> I read somewhere (was it here?) that there are four words in the English language which don't rhyme with anything. They are month orange silver purple This seems like an irresistible challenge - to write a poem with one of the above words rhymed somehow. - don't send it to the list, send to me - Belle and Sebastian must feature - semirhymes are acceptable (they have to be) If I get two poems, looks like it's a Trousers-style competition. Unfortunately I have no lavish prizes. However, I do promise a beautiful hand-decorated tape of Tigermilk with a painstakingly transcribed lyric sheet taken from the LP and toiled over by Tibetan monks for years in the darkness. Or something. I've just written mine. It may well be the worst poem ever written. But don't be fainthearted, give it a go... Charlotte +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Mon Nov 16 14:24:11 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:24:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: my vote for "MUSICAL UNDERDOG WE SHOULD ALL BE LISTENING TO!" References: <19981115160651.10807.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3650358B.322FF213@itl.ca> Yaaah, Tanya Donelly (whoo, hurrah, cheer) Anyone who has been so unfortunate as NOT to have heard any of Belly or TD's solo material, rush out and get it! Since King, and to a lesser extent, Star, can be found in almost ANY used CD shop's clearout bin for under $5 (an absolute travesty), you have no excuse not to. Some of the bestest pop music of the decade (Star is the folkier side, King the rockier side). I have spoken. Cheers, Frank Yang Hard work often pays off after time, but laziness always pays off now. In my CD player: Nick Drake - Way To Blue -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From SPRFNK at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 14:26:04 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:26:04 EST Subject: Sinister: MTV 120 Minutes premieres B&S video stateside tonight? Message-ID: i have to say that was definitely the cutest video i have ever seen---it was worth waiting for it :) kristin :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 14:31:16 1998 From: Sarah.Wheeler at xxx.uk (Sarah Wheeler) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:31:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: Please sir, can I have an apple? Message-ID: <199811161431.OAA23149@lenzie.cent.gla.ac.uk> Oh Oh Oh.....I just stalked Stuart Murdoch. And the only reason I recognised him from behind was 'cos he was wearing those lovely tartan velour trousers as seen on Lesley Jo's photo page. His arms of sex weren't on show; they were hidden 'neath a little blue jacket! And he had a full head of hair. I followed him into Fopp, and had loads of trouble pretending to look at CDs and check out his movements, and I definitely timed it wrong to buy a CD 'cos he walked out while I was at the counter. But he can't get away that easily...not with those trousers. On the way down Byres Road he looked over at the queue outside Greggs bakery in wonderment, or maybe he was reliving those grafitti days. (Maybe Greggs queuey people are being referred to in the first part of A Century of Fakers.) I wanted to ask him for an apple so I followed him to John Smith's, but he went inside and I couldn't do it. Aaah, I hang my head in shame. So I cheered myself up by booking myself a holiday in Amsterdam over New Year. They have loads of arms of sex over there.....and pictures of donkeys too. Byeeeee Sarah x ======================= Sarah Wheeler Room 106 West Medical Building University of Glasgow GLASGOW G12 8QQ 0141-339 8855 ext.2860 ======================= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Mon Nov 16 14:32:40 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 14:32:40 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Re: musical under dog blah, blah. Message-ID: <002566BE.004EEB21.00@notes.ericsson.se> dear List, Alright then, musical underdogs who we should all be listening too. Well most of you probably are but I've said it before and I'll say it again 'The Pastels' are probably the most important cultural phenomenon of the 20th century. Ignore them at your own peril. start with Sitting Pretty LP. go from there to Up For A Bit then Suck On is quite good, lots of early stuff bit patchy but you know, Let It Be was no great shakes either. Then the last two albums 'Safari' and Illumination' And the new remix thing is quite interesting. Okay then basically what I'm saying is, go out and buy the entire pastels back catalogue an anorak and a bowl cut and be dangerous. Richard, 'But the ceiling moves on down towards the floor And soon there's only room enough for us to crawl' Crawl Babies +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 15:25:27 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:25:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: List orgy - but will honey join in? Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2234A113@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Doing my Apple For Teacher bit, I think that Honey's posts, even if they are necessitated by less than cuddly things, are word for word the most thoughtful, well-expressed and completely darling things posted by anyone. I bet he ends up number one...If anyone could now pull me out from Honey's behind, it would be much appreciated, there's not much air in here... However...not only is there never any smut from his end (hmm - not sure I like the sound of that) but he increasingly seems to be soliciting bribes of a woollen/sexual nature, and we all know about power corrupting...I reckon that if Mr Mitchell is indeed receiving such overtures, then we should be the first to know about them, in all their gory detail. How about it, Honey (and I bet you're really called that due to you predilection for certain sweet foodstuffs in compromising positions...)? After Lesley Jo's kind offer to go out with everyone on the list (at once? Does that mean we'd all be, like, going out with each other too, or would we have to take turns?), I thought I'd share a deeply distressing moment from my past with 800 people. When I was 15, I went out with a girl who, it turned out, was using me as an experiment to figure out her sexuality. I think you can all figure out what the result was. What surprised me was the number of my friends this has happened to, both male and female. What also surprised me is that I heard on the weekend that she's getting married. To a boy. Obviously I only put her off for (erm) just over 9 years, then... Other pop shots: Stuart - crush update pleese.........John - I can let you have an only slightly torn "Mad as fuck" Carter t-shirt for a pony, but better get in quick, it's bound to go go go.........Anyone slagging off gingers had better have a mighty good excuse otherwise there'll be bashings - although I only have a wee bit of ginger in my sideys (and only in a particular light), I've got a fetish for pre-raphaelite (sp?) lovelies with locks aflame, which is why any mention of all things auburn makes me tingle somewhat.........Reid Dossinger truly is the bomb, despite my list crushes quotient being full and the fact that he's a boy.........David Kitchen, you'd better bloody hope that the "s" in shtml is in full effect, what with your rather rash declaration that "the rest of the new e can be found in the discography section".........I accidentally misread McMick's ICQ number as his IQ, which was impressive, if only for a fleeting moment, though I did wonder what kind of person put their IQ in their signature file :)........ooh gawd, I have to find a poem - would it be a little too sycophantic for *me* to choose one of Archel's beautiful poesies? Possibly...... Sebastian Brennan ate my hamster, Markx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dreamrlee at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 15:08:07 1998 From: dreamrlee at xxx.com (debbie spiers) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 08:08:07 -0700 Subject: Sinister: eeeee Message-ID: eeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeee dreamy :)lee:) Get your FREE E-mail at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://personal.lycos.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rudd_caleb at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 16:09:57 1998 From: rudd_caleb at xxx.com (Caleb J Rudd) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:09:57 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I know my way down the side streets now Message-ID: <802566BE.00508964.00@nyc-ntgw-n01.ny.jpmorgan.com> LLPJ is indeed "hot pants" pink. On the colour issue, will the re-issue of TM have the original cover/colour? Perhaps it should be in the format like those re-issued Rolling Stones albums were a few years ago, modeled on the original vinyl, which came complete with zip for Sticky Fingers. Although TM's cover doesn't feature Stuart Murdoch's trousers, perhaps something else could be arranged. -x Caleb x- <----------------------------------------------------------------------> < Chester Indie Zine http://www.chester.org.au > <----------------------------------------------------------------------> hello ... Mick McMick wrote: > Well, Sinister is red and LLPJ is purple, of course! Tigermilk > is...erm...just Tigermilk. I always thought that the "Lazy Jane" EP is pink ... does anyone else remember ages and ages ago one of susannah's postings where she took polaroids of herself doing the covers of the albums/ep's? *sigh* way back when (actually, that could have been on the coolist? ... i don't remember) ... anyhow, i could swear that LJ is pink ... anyone else? tigermilk is pale blue. so there. :) cheers, Katrina. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 16:59:03 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:59:03 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Genevieve and her dream horses In-Reply-To: <19981116011202.27236.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: Well I never had an imaginary horse when I was younger, but I still used my imagination. Does anyone remember a cartoon called "Wacky Races"? With Dastardly and Muttley and the gorgeous Penelope Pitstop (who may well have been my first crush... How sad is that, having a crush on a cartoon character?). Well when I was at infant school I used to spend breaktime running around the plaground pretending I was competing in the wacky races. By myself. I always won of course, but only after overtaking someone on the last lap. I'm sure there's something deep and meaningful to be said about my pysche, but I'm damned if I know what it is. List crushes - get your votes in today or tomorrow, I'll post the results on Wednesday probably. We currently have joint leaders... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From conform at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 17:01:14 1998 From: conform at xxx.com (Seamus Campbell) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 09:01:14 -0800 Subject: Sinister: big everything posting Message-ID: <01FF24001403D011AD7B00A024BC53C53BF312@mail.deming.com> so for the first time in the history of my having e-mail (6 years now) i've been charmed into adding a signature to my e-mails. it's by richard, and i won't tell you what it is, i'll just let you scroll down to the bottom of this message and see it. so i'm back and mostly recovered from the Seamus Goes On A Big Trip To New York trip. a brief Harper's style listing of some of my accomplishments: number of states i'd been in before/after the trip: 3/7 number of time zones: 1/4 number of airports: 2/4 number of different models of airplanes: 2/4 number of list members i'd met: 1/(roughly) 30 the only dissapointment for the trip was that the nov 1 tickets i tried to buy from a helpful listee didn't show up at my house until nov 2, due to their being misaddressed. but on the other hand i got four nice souvenirs out of the deal. other than that the trip was a whirlwind of entertainment and, well, alcohol. the nov 2 show was marvellous, though to be perfectly honest, i thought that eugene kelley was no good at all, which is a shame as the vaselines were ace. especially the split live cassette they did with beat happening. afterwards i went with my friend max and new list aquaintance megan to the kordova milk bar and met laurel and rachel and JJ and goon and stasia and francisco and a bunch of other listees, mostly british, whose names i am rude anough to fail to remember. and dorigen, who is apparently no longer on the list but is a very nice girl, even if she did leave my card on the bar. i went to bryn mawr several days later to visit a friend and see dub narcotic, that was also a very nice time. new jersey, despite being the "armpit of america", was quiet beautiful. except where there were cities. i also went to a bit of cmj; i missed the wonderful mercury rev (let me say it again: buy "deserter's songs" and you will be a happier person) but i caught the triumphant k records showcase. any listees in attendance there? funny how i travelled over 2000 miles away from olympia to hang out with my friends from... olympia. later that night i caught a 4 am cornelius show in a very small and very crowded room. when i returned i had nearly 700 sinister messages to go through... it took me three days to catch up and another three days to actually get down to writing this message. i had more to say but it's slipped away. it was a wonderful trip and i hope to meet all the listees again in the near future... maybe on the west coast tour... seamus "Okay then basically what I'm saying is, go out and buy the entire pastels back catalogue an anorak and a bowl cut and be dangerous." -- Richard +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 17:08:33 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:08:33 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Font Times Roman 78 Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C55@COR-EXG1> Horsfield wrote : ~ Perhaps the worst offender was the the florid handwriting font sported by 'Dog On Wheels', which made it look a little like an Interflora advert. ~ Better than not having anything written on them at all as some clever bastards like to do. It's not funny when you're alphabetically challenged trying to find CD's with no writing on them. Mark Casarotto wrote : ~ I reckon that if Mr Mitchell is indeed receiving such overtures, then we should be the first to know about them, in all their gory detail. How about it, Honey. ~ I've heard he is and that they're a taxable benefit of running a smutty mailing list. I think it's only the honourable thing if we all dob him in to the Revenue. There might be a reward 'n all. And then..... ~ Anyone slagging off gingers had better have a mighty good excuse otherwise there'll be bashings. ~ Does shagging one count ? :-o My Kate's a ginger witch and she dishes the bashings out herself. Fiery tempers you Beacons have. Ummm did I say all that...how rude. Ev. PS. Mark if it's in yer sideys that's good enough for me ya Beacon :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Nov 16 17:10:56 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:10:56 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Foul Owl on the Prowl! Message-ID: <01be1184$13882f80$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Dear phallus worshipping pagans, I've just bil to Beenbao, where I visited the famous Guggenheim Museum. It looks like a huge pair of Stuart Muroch's silver pantaloons billowing gently in a stiff breeze. It's fantastic, I urge you all to go, preferably wang dang doodled on top quality acid. I see we have finally arrived at the very bottom of what turned out to be a very deep barrel. I think it's either fuschia or magenta, and I think the effect was achieved by holding one of those plastic trays from a jam tart packet over the lens of the camera. "Tigermilk" is Ice Breaker blue. Who remembers them? They were better than Spangles. I hope I've got the name right. Linda will know, she has an elephant's memory where the greatest decade in human history is concerned. See below for "Tigermilk" joke. Sarah Wheeler, do you realise that you probably deprived us of an ink polaroid of a meeting between two of the greatest minds the twentieth century has produced, Stuart Murdoch and Stephen Pastel? Never mind, it was a good stalk. I'm sure everything will fall into place with practice. There was a poster of TBWTAS in the window of a record shop in Bilbao. Unfortunately the shop was closed for stocktaking (on a Saturday!) so I was unable to go in and force a sinsiter showdown, despite sporting my lovely "SEB" button badge. I would've tweeed that poster into my grubby mittems no problem. They're not used to tweeness in Bilbao. Anything else I might have to say is off topic, and I have turned over a new leaf. Peter In my CD player:- "Tigermilk" by Belle and Sebastian. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Derek.J.Weisel at xxx.edu Mon Nov 16 17:39:48 1998 From: Derek.J.Weisel at xxx.edu (Derek J Weisel) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:39:48 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: B&S on 120 minutes Message-ID: Hi, I don't contribute much, but i did want to say that I thoroughly enjoyed the B&S video. It was ironic because I was watching 120 minutes with friends waiting for the video, and as we watched we were commenting how almost all videos look exactly the same and rarely even match the mood of the song, ie the overplayed lullaby song. Then the B&S video came on and it was very beautiful and fit very well with the mood of the rest of their music. The black and white photography along with the very smooth camera shots created a very simple and elegant video that you knew had been made by Belle & Sebastian. Making videos that fit a groups music and can be viewed as the extension of a groups art sounds simple but most videos fail miserably. Good Show B&S! -Derek +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 17:41:15 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:41:15 EST Subject: Sinister: vaselines thing Message-ID: <8ee6f13c.365063bb@aol.com> In a message dated 11/16/98 10:07:24 AM, Seamus wrote: <> wait wait - what was Eugene Kelley doing at this show? was he performing as support or is he playing with B&S or what? is it Eugenius or just Eugene or did he revive Captain America? also whatever happened to Francis from Vaselines, i still love that band. Although the split live tape with Beat Happening is ace, i think Vaselines were really good in '86-'87, better than in '88 - their Port Talbot, Raffles show is really excellent even if it is only like 30 minutes. ciao mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 17:45:28 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:45:28 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Seamus and his dangerous signature Message-ID: I had noticed lately Carmen's message impact on the list , or better said, on the number of received messages, listees seem to be a bit frightened after her wit and wisdom showing off... Anyway, before than anything, I am in the process of falling love lately with someone that probably like B&S who I met yesterday, but rarely among British citizens, nobody introduced to me.(it was a sort of official meeting day...)and so, I listen to Belle and Sebbie even more fretfully trying to find some inspiration to start this romance somehow, or at least to be in the right mood Senseless, isn't it? What I really meant it is that I cannot see The Smiths ingredient too present in their songs.Velvetian influence is much more visible and hearable...There is no trace of Mozz grim world here, I was listening to TBWTHA at Milton Keynes Coach Station cafe, which could match perfectly some classic Smiths hit,as 'Half a person' or 'Shoplifters of the world ...', and found 'Chickfactor' too sophisticated and luminous to turn out to be a suitable soundtrack for lowlife in province towns. What about my subject? Seamus, for being your first signature ever, I found it really amusing and tender,but don't you think it is difficult to be dangerous owning all the Pastels collection and wearing a bowl cut hair all at once???you would look too cute to look dangerous... Bisous pour tous Arantxita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 17:47:58 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 12:47:58 EST Subject: Sinister: poetry makes nothing happen (she and me) Message-ID: hey y'all Speaking of Grammar & syntax & diction, Amelia Fletcher once said that there was a difficulty in using the words "she and me" in a proper grammatical sentence - she said this oct 7 '94 in berkeley and i've never been able to figure out how to use "she and me" in a sentence other than to say "i can't figure how to use 'she and me' in a sentence" or "'she and me' is a lovely song from Heavenly" but i don't think that really counts. so aside from the poetry thing, can someone tell me how to use "she and me" properly in a sentence? ta mike ps - doesn't "silver" and "caper" rhyme, or even "silver" and "fur"? i guess i'm stretching it, but it feels rhymy to me. In a message dated 11/16/98 7:04:30 AM, The Charlottes wrote: << I read somewhere (was it here?) that there are four words in the English language which don't rhyme with anything. They are month orange silver purple>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 18:30:36 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 18:30:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: la-di-da look at me, I'm a football supporter Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B004261FA@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Hey Y'All, Sunday night had all sorts of Sinister goings on. First off off I found myself in a pub with nine record-shop assistants, prompting thoughts of lovely Genevieve. None of them were very handsome mind so there's no need to be jealous. Then a Spanish football match came on the telly and me being a born-again football fan and Peter Miller being my hero and all I decided to watch it. It was much more entertaining than the Vale. I think the record shop boys were taking drugs. Someone called Joss made a Northern Soul tape for the Tag loon. I listened to that too and it's smashing. Anyway, Mr Mark Casarotto made this too kind offer: >John - I can let you have an only slightly torn "Mad as fuck" >Carter t-shirt for a pony, but better get in quick, it's bound to >go go go Sorry mate, not interested. They don't let us in the church with dirty words on our clothes. And me being a born-again and all. Aristocratic Europeans with silky skills. I'm a renaissance man you know. And somebody who probably works for Ericsson in Sweden made a brave stand with the sentiment: >'The Pastels' are probably the most important cultural >phenomenon of the 20th century. Ignore them at your own peril. These are wise words. Never deny that you've heard them spoken. I'm going to go to Dublin and drink a pint of Guinness for The Pastels. If I'm really lucky, I might even get to drink a pint of Guinness with The Pastels. Does anybody know the phone number of the Dublin Mean Fiddler or a ticket outlet where I can buy tickets? I've absolutely got to see The Pastels you know. I cried on Saturday night. Unfortunately it was on the dancefloor at Smile. I was in my disco pants and Julian put on "The boy with the arab strap" and I remembered Leeds and got all emotional. I was a bit blootered at the time. Oh, and I think Mrs Warrander John's joined our ranks, so it's no more lies and smut from me or it's a smack in the mouth from her. It does mean that I've now had sex with two other listees though. La-di-da look at me, aren't I the horny devil. Hello Mrs Warrander John, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 18:31:48 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:31:48 EST Subject: Sinister: vaselines thing Message-ID: <316987bb.36506f94@aol.com> eugene was playing the show--he went on before Guv'ner +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Name: not available URL: From snorman at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 19:50:52 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 19:50:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: la pastie de la bourgeoisie Message-ID: hi i've just been trawling through the archive for the past half an hour (i'm waiting in much anticpation for a party i'm going to tonight) and i think i'm right in saying that no-one came up with a definitive answer to what la pastie del la bourgeoise actually means. i read massvie long arguements about what, bourgeoise means, and where it comes from, (owners of the means of production & marx) but not the song title. i always presumed that lapastiedelabourgeoise referred to members of the prolitariat who had become friends with members of the bourgeois, ie become their "pastie". marx kinda argued i think that even though they were friends that the bourgeios would still exploit the prole. marx definatley didn't use the term la pastie de la bourgeoisie though. ooh i'm vibrating! my pagers just gone off. i've got to go cause apparently i'm late bye! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 20:12:57 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 15:12:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: re: lotsa stuff Message-ID: <3650873E.441D@javanet.com> ok replies ive been meaning to send consolidated into one post: most of these are for old topics but oh well im lazy i dress dreadfully normal except for my hat and my excess of hair, just jeans and t-shirts (t-shirts like b&s, rachel's, dirty three, mark eitzel, blue mountain, scud mtn boys, hayden, and other music people) oh and i spose my long black coat is a bit out of the ordinary and i wear a blue fuzzy (not feel me fuck me fuzzy but wool fleece fuzzy) shirt most every day so thats my un B&Sish fashion dunno why i mentioned it but figured i might as well underrated bands: Vulgar Boatmen almost anyone on here would like them save for any twangaphobes their being underated is mostly due to major obscurity and being too nice for rockers, too old and maybe too country for indie, and too rockin for folk, they get jerked around by labels a bit their album You And Your Sister is a complete classic, including a song called "Margaret Says" about a pretnetious girl "with her hat on her head tilted over her eyes" who uses big words "says a word i dont know right away, she says its hard to pronounce but easy to say" to which the guy says: "and i tell margaret bow bow bow badadum bow bow bow" i love that song the whole album is amazing, esp when in one song the singer starts clapping by himself while everyone else plays, doenst sound like produced indie pop clapping (that like too) its just one guy getting into it has a living room or other intimate setting feel to it, perfect driving/bus/etc music bus stuff: i have a couple bus stories but nothing especially exciting except maybe spending the night at the bus stop after a supersuckers/pansy division show but that wasnt particularly noteworhty either however I just bought the Minders album (ALL HAIL ELEPHANT 6 ahem...sorry) called Hooray For Tuesday, another great collection of 60's type indie pop from the elephant 6 collective, one song called Big Red Bus is very cool and seemed applicable for obvious reasons i didnt read all the bus posts so if someone mentioned this already i apologize i think thats it ----Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 16 21:09:15 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 16:09:15 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: when i say boom boom boom you say bam bam bam Message-ID: i'm afraid that i've become a fan of parappa the rappa, and he's spending more time playing then belle and sebastian. when are they going to have a video game. though i'm not sure what the goal would be or anything. perhaps it would just be about the band members trying to put a tour together. i just beat level two of parappa. now i learned kung fu and i have my license. ;) anyway, mr miller found me out when he said: >No I'm bloody not! Anyway, Magnetic Megan, I've seen those photos of >you "pleasuring" Augusto Pinochet while Mrs Thatcher looks on in >ecstasy, her teacup rattling in its saucer! I think you're just trying >to reduce my crush votes so you can win next time. Your timing is >extraordinary, by the way. whoops. i shall try to be more discreet in the future. someone asked what sinister people are wearing. i'm actually in a versace gown right now, but that's just cause i'm on my way to class. there's a killer dress code at this school. normally i wear my earth shoes and caftans. anyway, i saw the "is it wicked not to care video" last night and realized how crappy music videos are right now. every video, except for the aforementioned had the same lighting that made everyone look green and sickly, and i think every single female had blue eyeshadow on. and that one video where the stage is broken and the band people are still each standing on a portion? actually, i think b&s should steal that idea. imagine isobel and sarah trying to bow delicately while being carried by dozens of twee, anemic indie types who couldn't possibly support the weight of a little tweety bird. well, i was amused. then again, i think i need more sleep. actually, i'm neither anemic nor twee. but oh well, one must dream. i must seriously recommend parappa to everyone wiht a play station. you'll be down with my posse. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 21:19:15 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:19:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the gate & i know where the summer goes Message-ID: <365096D3.6EEF6BAB@jeepster.co.uk> ok, the lyrics for these are now on the web, liquid audio for these will be there tomorrow morning (GMT) sometime cheers david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com> Mon Nov 16 21:21:55 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com> (kellym at xxx.com>) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 13:21:55 -0800 Subject: Sinister: www.arms-of-sex.com Message-ID: <199811162125.NAA08133@macbeth.ienet.com> Megan wrote: " i must seriously recommend parappa to everyone with a play station. you'll be down with my posse." When will this smut end?! First its Megan doing lewd acts in front of Mrs. Thatcher, and now she wants us to go down on her posse! This must stop, if not for myself then at least for the children! Yeah. -Kelly Ryan McGuire +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 22:23:28 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:23:28 EST Subject: Sinister: underrated bands Message-ID: <29bc7b06.3650a5e0@aol.com> In a message dated 11/16/98 1:14:52 PM, Evan wrote: <> I can't recall the situation - did Vulgar Boatmen become the Silos, or is it the other way around? And is there any connection with these two bands and either Wilco or the other x-Uncle-Tupelo band connection? Either way, I agree that Vulgar Boatmen & Silos were excellent underrated underrappreciated artists. My fave underrated artist is Klaus Flouride (ex Dead Kennedys' bassist) who put out what was my favorite album of 1989 - that being _Because I Say So_ which is just gorgeous. His 1991 follow up _the light is flickering_ is also great. Another great underrated band is F/i who recorded for RRRecords and whose vinyl records are very difficult to find (probably harder than Tigermilk, but not as expensive). Great stuff... sigh. I once played their "shallow inlet of a meadow" song mixed with Winnie The Pooh's "a rather blustery day" on an old radio show, although it wasn't my idea originally - rather Dave Regan did it first, so I borrowed the idea from him. oooh it was ace to do. well i've gone away from the point but anyway. there are tons of other great underrated bands but i know that most of the kids here know them already. oh wait - one more: Culturecide. Their _Tacky souvenirs..._ album is excellent. if you ever see it on vinyl, then buy it - it's well worth the $25 or so it'll cost, if not more. and Blub Krab compilation - that's a great album as well. It has very early Jad Fair/Half Japanese material (late '70s), although the gem on that album is Pablum's "Under my Gums" (spin-off of "Under my Thumb") and I'd just do about anything for that album, even swap my "Treble Kicker" 7" EP to get it. well, maybe :P xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Valiums at xxx.com Mon Nov 16 22:42:23 1998 From: Valiums at xxx.com (Valiums at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:42:23 EST Subject: Sinister: "B&S on the radio...playing songs for children..." Message-ID: In a message dated 98-11-16 14:54:30 EST, you write: << Much to my amazment, a major radio station here in Los Angeles (Y107 an alternative station) played "The Boy with the Arab Strap" last night. I was driving home in shocking bliss... Has anyone else here in LA heard B&S on the radio? >> I heard them played on KPNT in St. Louis, though I live in LA +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Gareth at xxx.uk Mon Nov 16 23:33:27 1998 From: Gareth at xxx.uk (Gareth Probert) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:33:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hmmmm... Message-ID: <3650B647.CB119187@probert-edi.compulink.co.uk> Hello there I was sitting dilligently working in my school library today, when I saw a poster for a newly released book. I was allowing my eyes to stroll down the poster, when I saw that the slogan type thing on the front of the book was: "It's a crying shame, the state that they're in" I thought that that was quite strange, Hmmmm... Best wishes to you all Gareth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 01:02:45 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:02:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: underrated bands Message-ID: <3650CB2F.321F@javanet.com> the vulgar boatmen history is kind of complicated and im sketchy on details so anyone is welcome to correct me they have connections to a lot of bands because they've never been stable as an outfit I actually don't know who all the people in the band have played with but You And Your Sister was produced by Walter Salas Humara who is the main guy in the Silos so thats the silos connection as for uncle tupelo (son volt/wilco) connection i dont think theres anything besides vulgar boatmen being embraced by the alt. country "movement" or whateever you wanna call it the most comlicated thiong about vulgar boatmen is that they've split into two bands, one in chicago and one in...i forget but the south somewhere the other thing is the main singer and songwriter of the v boatmen Dale Lawrence sings on Mysteries Of Life's first record, tours with them and might have joined the band i dunno rumors abound about them but i dont know any more than that as for silos they have connections with everybody in the alt.country genre cause eeveryone loves him and he shows up everywhere that probably wasnt very helpful except that i didnt realize how little i knew about them another underrecognized (though they could never be worshipped enough to please me) is Giant Sand, though off shoots like Calexico and Friends Of Dean Martinez are getting some exposure Giant Sand is criminally unknown in general im sure plenty of people will disagree with me but i have to say that they are the best band in america if not the most talented group of three musicians, for variety's sake there is no possible way to beat them (except maybe with lots of computers and synths and stuff) they certainly dont appeal to everyone in all of their forms, they can be a little heavy musically the description i give of their music is: metalhead bob dylans riding hobbyhorses through the barrio i could prolly name many other bands but I must do school work ---Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 01:27:04 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 17:27:04 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: smiths' influence on B&S Message-ID: <19981117012704.22142.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> I see the Smiths in many places in B&S: lines like "heartless swine" ("Le Pastie de la Bourgoisie") and the portrayal of people who probably spend too much time in their rooms listening to the music and thinking about life as though it's something you one day find, rather than something happening that you're in the middle of. (No offense to anyone, I just described myself perfectly). aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "What makes most people feel happy leads us headlong into harm." --The Smiths _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Tue Nov 17 04:19:07 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 20:19:07 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Q=Is It Wicked NOt to Love Isobel?A=of course, but it leaves more over for me! Message-ID: <000a01be11e1$6c586a00$4f11020a@rebelstrange> um, well, sure, i'll go out with all of you at once.........??? please dont 'take anything i say TOO seriously, as i've just been dealing with a rather hellish relationship(sic?) and i'm just eager for attention from anyone. with that said, AAAAAAAUGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!! hooray for wicked video, which exudes a sporty cuteness!! tho the one soul was right aabout how little isobel was in it(relatively) since she was the star of it, and oh how i love that song and her voice, and could she get any cuter???? I dont' think so!!!!!! it made me want to cry. i miss staring at Isobel, that was such a good hour for me. and even though stuart m was only in it for a few seconds, he looked so dramatic and precious, the expression on his face was poignant and heroic know what i mean? i loved the childlike wacky hijinx of the vid, and the bucolic countryside, and adorable Sarah hanging up in a big tree was just lovely. oh yeah, and kilts. BUT damn it mtv damn you all to hell! i missed taping the first verse because stupid v-j guy didnt' anounce when it came on, and in my rush i fumbled teh remote control and pushed pause instead of record, then was very bitter as i missed a lot of isobel and her striped shirt which also exudes a sporty cuteness. not to mention the hour and a half or so of relentless CRAP i had to sit through, and TWO interviews with people I greeted by shouting "Who are these dorkwads?!?" damn you, mtv, again. But bless you for playing belle. it will be taken into account by st. pete when you get there. Isobel has cute legs. IF they change the tigermilk cover, heads will roll, mark my words. on the cover subject, i think i like the covers best when they have girls on them, especially Jo, because she is just so delightful, i wish models looked like her, she is super lovely. I hate the cover of arab strap, just for the record. 3-6-9 is cute because its' young Stu, and it's silvery. Isobel deserves a cover shot. ishall be demanding it. they should have used the shot of her and the toy lion, as the album cover, taht would have been good....... (not like anyone would take my advice on these matters...) I will soon have a 3rd page of photos up, i have 5 more concert shots scanned in, it should be up within this evening as i write. much later this evening......along with one of the most beautiful photos you shall ever see in your born days. Now you cant' resist. run over to the Jeepster Officially Sanctionned Links*g* and head over to my page and let the tears start rolling....*sniff* it's so luvverly....! i was going to give a long speech to thank everyone for making it possible for me to be on the jeepster page as a photo site, but it would just take too long. so i thank everyone. the band, the list, my friends, myself, and whoever invented rock and roll. thank you academy. np: Lida husik, faith in space "This can opener is not just a kitchen appliance. treat it kindly, and it will be your loyal friend." lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 02:52:12 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 21:52:12 EST Subject: Sinister: elbows of sex Message-ID: <698249de.3650e4dc@aol.com> Dearest listees, The video for "Is it Wicked Not to Care" is very good. They are all very cute. Especially Stu M, who pops on screen for a total of 2 seconds and looks immaculate as ever. No shot of his arms of sex sadly though. :( My favorite body part is the arm. Around the elbow area. Boys' arms look nicer than girls' arms. Boys' arms that look like Stuart's, that is. :) Why am I doing all these smiley face things? I never used to. Well now, I confess, I have secretly been awaiting a message from Stu M to the list, ever since he arrived back in Scotland.. It's just that it was such a nice gesture to mail the list last time with an apology after coming on late in London, that I thought he would make another nice apology for entirely missing the Philadelphia and Toronto shows! After all, you just missed your trains, we missed the whole show! I don't mean to sound snotty or anything, and I'm not bitter, but Stuart's messages are just so lovely that I figured he'd quit lurking now for sure! Is the Gate really bad, and is I Know Where the Summer Goes really good? My new realization is that Stu M looks a bit like my freak chemistry partner last year.. He was a shy boy who sat in his seat and never took notes or paid any attention to what was happening around him. But not in a good way, because this kid was annoying as monkey nuts. He was a chemical hog, and I didn't like him one bit! And he always went pyscho about getting the sulfuric acid on his hands, the mother's boy wimp. And then he'd yelp if I dropped any nitric acid on the table, and start whimpering. This boy did not have arms of sex. He did not have anything of sex. He was a weak turtle bird. Phhhhew. I better go do my chem homework. Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mew817 at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 04:02:16 1998 From: Mew817 at xxx.com (Mew817 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 23:02:16 EST Subject: Sinister: elbows of sex, Wicked video... Message-ID: Tami wrote about her chemistry partner: > This boy did not have arms of > sex. He did not have anything of sex. That just made me laugh and laugh... :) So, I wonder what Stuart thinks about his arms being called "arms of sex"? It's pretty funny, really and true too, I saw them and they are nice arms. So, I too waited up last night for the "Is it Wicked..." video. And I agree with what other people have written, it's a very nice change. It's rare to see a music video these days as aesthetically appealing as that video. And you're right, those of you who wrote before, all the other videos were exactly alike. It's like people are afraid to do anything different in that whole Alterna-Rock world. I remember when 120 Minutes used to be pretty decent and most of the music was new and different. Now, it's just everything you would hear on Alternative radio, nothing new (except B&S). I'm so glad they even played B&S. I once read what bands have to go through to get air play on MTV and it's pretty tough (for new and different bands anyway). Enough about MTV. You know what's weird? I have a stuffed lion almost exactly, if not exactly, like the one in the video. My mom got it as a gift and gave it to me because I love lions (and am a Leo). I thought that was pretty neat. Take care Megan x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 05:27:16 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 00:27:16 EST Subject: Sinister: my favourite vegetables Message-ID: <76217b6c.36510934@aol.com> it's a quote, intended to add authority to my ramblings: > ...being carried by > dozens of twee, anemic indie types who couldn't possibly support the weight > of a little tweety bird. well, i was amused. then again, i think i need > more sleep. > > actually, i'm neither anemic nor twee. but oh well, one must dream. i > must seriously recommend parappa to everyone wiht a play station. you'll > be down with my posse. okay, hello again. it's very close to snowing here in toronto. which is too bad, i already had my outfit picked out for tomorrow and the proper execution would involve open-toed platform shoes. poo, i was hoping to squeeze in a few more bare-toe days this year. anyone see buffy tonight? mmm, david boreanaz with no shirt on...mmm....i can't seem to stop drooling, although i'd better because water + computers don't mix well. this television nowadays, can't watch anything without running bang on into sexual tension. my life, however, is totally devoid of any sort of sexual anything, thanks to ahren (crushboy) getting back with his girlfriend "for the sex". what a pig. and why, may i ask, was i interested in him? it wasn't for his mensa membership, i'll tell you that much. so my attention has turned to a lovely boy at my school who looks suspiciously like steve malkmus. his name is tyler, so be watching for any tyler news. as of today, he doesn't even know i exist. but don't worry, i'll change that. there is a movie being filmed at my school, for which a bunch of my friends are extras (not me, of course; on the day of the cattle call, i had to work). it's starring edward furlong (who is apparently quite rude) and is called "detroit rock city". it's about a group of friends trying to get to a kiss concert in the seventies. the school has been transformed into robert f. kennedy highschool - the school signs have all been changed, the cafeteria and lockers have been painted, and tomorrow at 6am the drag racing will commence in the school parking lot. so i will be letting you sinisterines know when shooting wraps, and when the movie will be released. i expect you will all go see it in the spirit that "any friend of jessica's is a friend of mine", and will listen eagerly to me as i point out my friends walking by as extras in afro wigs, polyester turtlenecks, and tight white pants and tennis jackets. it's full of some bad style. i am anemic, you know. it involves me having to take vitamins with lots of iron in them, and generally being less perky and more tired than the rest of you. a drag, yes, but not nearly so bad as when i was little and had to take liquid iron every day. i suppose i also am a bit twee (i live in cardigans all year round, own too many pairs of argyle socks, wear glasses which automatically places me in one category or another), so i guess i should be standing up for myself and other anemic, twee types and burying these horrid "too weak to lift a tweety bird" stereotypes. i'll have you know that i once ate a bowl of pasta that was as big as my head. which builds strong bones and muscles. which must mean that i am strong. i just translated the whole prologue to "the canterbury tales", from ye olde english to modern english. forgive me for this noodling, but when aprille with his shoures soot hath perced.....i'm thanking my lucky stars that i'm not ever going to be stuck translating the whole 17,000 lines of the sillly poem. it's full of a bunch of crazies: a corrupt monk, a slutty nun...and let's not even talk about the friar. i love you most of all, jessicaxo ps. veggie content: zucchini and corn. and broccoli, but only if it's on pizza. pps. b+s content: i shall have a good b+s dream tonight so i can tell you all about it tomorrow. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 06:09:05 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1998 22:09:05 PST Subject: Sinister: ha! ha! ha! Message-ID: <19981117060906.11059.qmail@hotmail.com> The other reason that Mx. Mitchell forgot to reason for lists dying is the music simply petering out. See the Billy Bragg list for details, and they had more to write about, I thought, than anyone. The myth of trust wasn't the only thing outlived, eh? My friend Khanh just accosted me and told me he saw one of Belle and Sebastian's videos late last night: "That shit must be pretty popular, eh?" You know your anglophilia is out of control when you realize you've spent two lunches' worth of money on a double-A sided single of crowd noise following a Creation Records band concert. I just came back from a movie at an empty theater in the ghetto: "Pleasantville". The preview ( I only caught one) was for a movie all about the vagaries of four-dimensional internet romance starring Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan. I'm worried.... looks like a movie that could single-handedly wreck the market for glare-free Romeos like myself. These are the last days of list crushes, frenz. I'm going to be in England at the end of the year.... because I can get there for free. I really, really don't know anything of where to go and who to see.... I hate to seem like a mail-order bride but, um, is there anyone there with a few days off that would want a sidekick? I could be your Kato Kaelin. Oh.... p.s. Congratulations Sarah. I'll be on the lookout for yoo-hoo. Heh. *scritch scritch* ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From David_Yun at xxx.edu Tue Nov 17 06:38:34 1998 From: David_Yun at xxx.edu (Davey) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 01:38:34 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i need your help... Message-ID: hey everyone, dave here in Rhode Island in the states...a friend and i are putting together a belle and sebastian web site that focuses on b&s fans so i need your help...if anyone has any stories or concert reviews or photos or drawings or art of any kind i would love if you contributed to the site...also if you have any good pics, or sound clips or video clips that you want to share i would love it if you forwarded them to me to put on the website gallery...also if any of you have any suggestions as to what would be cool to have on the site please feel free to suggest...it is still in its baby stage so i could use all the help that i could get...with the stories and concert reviews just putting it in the body of hte email file would be cool and if you could put "contribution to davey's web site" or something like that as the subject so that i can pick messages out easily that would be grrrrrrrrrreat! thanks all, ill pass along the url as soon as the site is up and ready.... daveybrown -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- david m. yun po box 6245 brown univeristy providence, ri 02912-6245 david_yun at brown.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Tue Nov 17 10:04:48 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:04:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: he swallowed his pride and puckered his lips.. Message-ID: ...hello, it's Cro-Magnon Chris. Sorry for not being the most communicative of chums recently, but I've been busy stalking Sarah Wheeler. Sarah you look particularly radiant this morning. I'm watching you right now. So, where to start. The incomparably generous Miss Julia bought me the latest Robin Williamson release yesterday out of sweetness, and my large headed idol has not let me down. It's got his lovely wife and young daughter singing on it too, both of whom sport a beard and cravat just like Robin. There's a really good tune on it about his dog who is the finest and fastest greyhound in the world. But one day as the dog ran round and round and round and round and round and round the garden it ran right over a scythe which someone left amongst the long grass and the nettles. The poor dog was split right down the middle, in two halves like a baguette. But Robin thought quickly and sprinkled white vinegar over the two halves of the dog and tied it back together using shreds of a dish towel. The dog was as good as new, apart from one thing. Robin had put the two halves of the dog the wrong way round, so now it could bark at both ends. Top! It's an old song really I think, just given a bit of mystical reworking. put your foot on da muthafuckin brake homeboy. That's for Megan. Oh and look, another competition too, from Mediterranean beauty charlotte hall! It's a bit of a mind number that, like when I think of what came before God. Grr, I want a go on that brain expander from Forbidden Planet, and a Furby for Christmas. It's a truly frosty morning, colder than a witches tit. Somewhere in this city i can imagine our little belle and sebastian chums all huddled up in a bed made for eight. With paddington bear on the bedspread. Who's turn is it to make breakfast for everyone this morning? Well it's Tuesday so it's martin and murdochs turn. But sarah wont get out of the bed cos it's too damn cold, and struan wont because he's got his morning stiffy. So I guess they'll have to stay there all day, or until one of them has to go for a wee-wee. That is if they haven't been wee-weeing in micks trumpet all night. god help me. joey d +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Tue Nov 17 10:32:12 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:32:12 +0100 Subject: Sinister: vices Message-ID: <365150AC.A4A7E75F@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> HI everyone , i am 24 and i only now i have discover the GUINNES. I love this black beer , the froth of it is like a cream. So now i have another vice , but a beautiful vice , in addition to cigarettes, wine and black candle. Thank you to the man that have made this mellow-beer. A little advice ( for all the sinisters that drink guinnes ) : drink this beer listening " if you are feeling sinister" not the whole cd only the song . Let me know. Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Tue Nov 17 10:51:35 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:51:35 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: for stephan's attention Message-ID: I seem to be a little confused. Stephan offered to give tigermilk to those who contributed to charity. Then Alix said she'd give it to me when I advertised my insatiable desire to possess a copy. Then I thought Alix was stephan. Then stephan wrote offering Tigermilk. Then I wrote saying no , I'm getting it off someone else. And contributing to their charity - the Hondoran kids fund. But the Hondoran kids fund is Stephan's charity. So what is going on ? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Tue Nov 17 10:52:36 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:52:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: YipppeheeeeeH Message-ID: <431FA540D33@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> Yeaeeahhh!! I am in a good mood today cos I heard on the radio that next monday they will broadcast not only the black sessions but also an exclusive interview done by an Austrian radioguy!!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!! vanxxxx *can't wait' _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Nov 17 11:02:50 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 11:02:50 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: IT'S YOU! Message-ID: HELLO!(-> I am shouting, by the way) I have met a listee for first time ...though none of us were wearing a B&S T Shirt, or met to go to a gig together.It was totally matter of factly, and I thought he was a really nice guy, maybe everybody in the list is ,as someone suggested, and this is just a sample.And we were not even introduced , really rare when meeting Brits for first time (they never introduce themselves, they never speak without being introduced by someone else->summing up my experience with them and as advice to Americans coming here or even continentals!) But Robin did .B! Listees are different! Be kind, be smart, be dainty,be Sinisterine! Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Tue Nov 17 12:05:53 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:05:53 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: I saw your arms in a dream... Message-ID: <775B4E2004@hermes.nottingham.ac.uk> So, it turns out that I've met a listee without even realising it. Arantxa, you are lovely, and I agree that maybe everyone on the list is simply a really nice person. Am I too late to announce my list crush? Anyway, maybe it's to do with the confusion of the above events, but I had my first B&S dream last night, which was very strange. I shall relate... In my dream I was lying in bed, all cosy and warm, when I felt someone shaking me. I looked up and there was Stuart, with massive, monster arms, shaking me and yelling "wake up! wake up!". "No", I said, "I have to sleep", but still he shook and his arms got bigger and bigger. These weren't arms of sex, these were scary arms. Eventually, after all that shaking, I woke up. What a strange dream. More of a B&S nightmare really. I'd like to say that when I woke up, my mum was shaking me saying "wake up! wake up! you'll be late for school!" but it wouldn't be true. In fact I just lay there feeling slightly bemused. Bye for now Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 12:25:23 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 04:25:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: a quote to add to the ramblings (indeed) Message-ID: <19981117122523.10006.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> dawhlings - this morning i got to work and from my tenth floor window it looked as if i was above all the clouds....the sun was shining over the fluffiness and i felt like i could be on a plane on my way to san francisco. realising that 'twas only HUGE amounts of fog playing tricks with my noggin, the flowers promptly fell from my hair and i was back in london watching the fog lift and the horrible millennium dome come into view. "arms of sex"? give it up people. stuart murdoch is an armchair of lyrical pleasure, with lumbar adjustment and velour-covered pillows. jessica is officially my list crush - not the foxinasnow jessica but the bissxo one. and here's why: "my life, however, is totally devoid of any sort of sexual anything, thanks to ahren (crushboy) getting back with his girlfriend "for the sex". what a pig. and why, may i ask, was i interested in him? it wasn't for his mensa membership, i'll tell you that much. so my attention has turned to a lovely boy at my school who looks suspiciously like steve malkmus. his name is tyler, so be watching for any tyler news. as of today, he doesn't even know i exist. but don't worry, i'll change that." i love the *drama* of it all. dawhlings i want to learn how to fly (HIGH!). i feel jessica is exploring the same avenues as myself....oh fruitless wonder this ahren tree turned out to be, a flightless bird, a drowning fish. jessica it has come to pass that i, lady penelope / wizzcake / padraic am flogging a dead horse also. dawhling - i feel your ache. the boy(s) done wrong again. i wish you wonderful days of obsess. compuls. beahav. with the new crushee of choice. i have faith that you will see this tyler chap and he will be mesmerised with your witty and charming mots des fleurs. i went to ireland last weekend and, despite having received an invitation from one DCU student, have still to meet any dublin listees. perhaps we should organise a christmas time meet up. the pastels are playing a show at the garage in london....in december. are any of you fine london listees thinking of going along? oh, and CAT POWER had me feline groovy dawhlings last thursday. "i love you chan" is what i said. she smiled and gigged like a duck-billed platypus. oh she is adorable. ooooh. b&s content: how can i get my cash back from the philadelphia debacle? i bought my ticket from the venue on the night and went back to london before the refund situation was sorted out....if any of you have any suggestions please let me know. -lady penelope, sans tiara, sans a crush of his own. ------------------------------------------------------- "and now the session's over and it's time to go, am i just another shot in your portfolio?" ------------------------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Tue Nov 17 12:38:16 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:38:16 -0000 Subject: Sinister: anything to do? Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC62@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> Hi, I am studying in London since September. My main activities in London have been concentrated on walking and walking and walking around town to be able to know at least a modicum of this king size city. But now I know where are Okford Street and Camden town, I am looking for things to do (espcially concerts). I have only been to one concert since I am here (The Lucksmiths at the Poetry Cafe, it was more than excellent, by the way), but am looking for other ones, and other places to go. Could Londoner listee help me on that one? Thanks Clem P.S. Yes I know about The Garage even if I haven't been there yet. P.P.S wouldn't a "London indie-gigs update" be usefull? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 12:29:52 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:29:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Monday poem - coming over all pre-emptive Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2234A125@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Hi my lovers (cheers to Lesley for the chance to increase the notches on my bedpost by 80,000%), I have been trying to figure out what fine verse to send you all, and then I read Marco's posting. Sorry sorry sorry for being patronising, but what a beautiful way of manipulating the English language. "i am 24 and i only now i have discover the GUINNES. I love this black beer , the froth of it is like a cream. So now i have another vice , but a beautiful vice , in addition to cigarettes, wine and black candle. Thank you to the man that have made this mellow-beer." As this has already been posted, it obviously can't count, but I think you'll all agree it more than merited being repeated. Anyway...I think it may be time to try and repeat the success (well, it was, despite the overwhelming presence of Y chromosomes) of Rory's indoor picnic. The thing is, we need a venue...so this is a plea to anyone in the London area who could tolerate having 20 or 30 really rather polite and considerate listees drinking in your living room and butchering "Le Pastie..." after a bottle or three of Bulgarian red, and cake. We're all lovely, we'd help clear up, and out music taste issecond to none. And you'd be bound to get lots of list crushes out of it...I'm more than happy to do any arranging that may have to be done, putting it up on David's site an' all. Also, if any listees are coming into town any time soon and feel that they should have a party thrown especially in their honour, well, this is the ideal opportunity. Mail me privately if anyone's interested! No B&S dreams lately - I did have a rather saucy one about someone familiar to some of you, but I'm most definitely not going into that one, and another where my dad, looking shaken, told me he'd banned all homosexuals from the house. What was *that* all about...This was immediately after I'd woken up with a strat (a start actually, but this makes me sound like a rock mutha, so it stays), sat straight up and cried "Get up everyone! A plane's about to land on the roof, we have to get out now!!!", and then feeling really conned that it was just a figment of my imagination. I've just checked out Lesley's lovely photeys, and I can see quite why Miller Minor is quite so smitten - that tiger cap really does do it for ms Campbell, n'est-ce pas? Well, I've managed to say nothing again, but I just want to say "yo" to the lovely Lorraine, whose eloquent defense of Slowdive made me feel ashamed for my abandoning of my Chapterhouse and Revolver-ridden past. I do still like My Bloody Valentine , honest, Lorraine... Peter Miller is much funnier than me, Markx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 17 12:42:20 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:42:20 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: GLMPRS Message-ID: Dearest list, Genevieve - you rock. Incidentally, I had five imaginary dogs when I was younger - any thoughts on how to interpret this anyone? None of them were on wheels though. Thanks Arantxa for liking the pome. Jennifer wrote about left-handed people. I have come to the conclusion, on empirical evidence, that lefties are more intelligent, more creative, more sensitive, and better in bed that righties. I wish I was one. (My boyfriend is which is the next best thing I suppose.) LLPJ = magenta Tigermilk = generally lovely muted pastel rainbow shades (GLMPRS) I love the variety in the covers, font and colour and everything, though it does slightly conflict with my journalistic side which likes uniformity in magazines, papers etc (including the one I edited last year about which I was probably annoyingly anal.) But the entire packaging experience of B&S releases is nearly as important as the music, well, at least all bound up with it in a lovely, multi-sensual (is that a word?) way. I think I've got about a dozen new list crushes. Oh dear. Big lashings of love to all of you, Archangel xxxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "If everything seems to be going well, you obviously don't know what the hell is going on." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Tue Nov 17 12:57:11 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:57:11 +0100 Subject: Sinister: various Message-ID: <4340E8470EF@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> >the portrayal of people who probably spend too much >time in their rooms listening to the music and >thinking about life as though it's something you one >day find, rather than something happening that you're >in the middle of. The sad thing about being one of those people is though that .... I dunno I see all the little kids (no offense) living the live I thought I'd live at my age (I am 22) now .... Every 13 year old is probably more experienced than I am ---- _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Nov 17 13:14:37 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 13:14:37 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Imaginary riders Message-ID: Dear list : I never had an imaginary horse as Genevieve, or any other pet,but as many other children in the world , quite likely being spoilt and lonely only children as myself, I had an imaginary friend who stayed friens with me since I was three till I was five or so... The funny thing is he , whose name was Looky, spoke in English and he lived very far from me...obviously I could not speak English at all when I was three as I am from Madrid and my parents are both Spanish.I used to pick up the phone and talked to him in my invented English, something as gla gli gli and so.I think I suffered from some severe Anglophilia when I was a kid, as I used to try to sing in English too, probably inherited by the big fan of the Kinks and the Small Faces my dad was and is, who has not clue of English but tries to make his best humming 'All day, all day ...etc' I know all this stuff about imaginary friends /pets is not very much of B&S content , but it sounds as very of them at the same time.Perhaps we could inspire some songlyrics... Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Tue Nov 17 13:22:03 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 08:22:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199811170822030500.00255057@204.96.36.40> Actually, I might be mistaken, but I remember the over here in the U.S. that the dog might've been Sebastian in that cartoon. I'm not sure. A friend kinda convinced me that the cartoon was that way, even though it didn't make much sense. Whatever happened to that cartoon? Why don't they show anything good on TV anymore? ...carmen... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/12/98, at 1:41 PM, Christa Chaffinch wrote: >YES!! I remember the show so well, that is actually why I listened to >the band for the first time (oh, I can see that day so clearly)!! >Little Sebastian and beautiful Belle, I watched it every day after >school- it was on Nickelodeon at 4pm, I believe...? >What was the name of the little dog who went around with them on >their Alpine Adventures? >Or the name of the grandfather character? >Oh, wow, this is bringing back memories...but obviously not too many, >as I cannot remember the names of any of these >characters...hmmmmm.... > >>>> "Frank Yang" 11/12 1:14 PM >>> >What I don't understand is why no one ever discusses the cartoon. I >for one actually remember the show - can't remember if I liked it or >not, though. I think that I watched it cause it was a cartoon and >that was good enough for me. When I told my brother that the Belle & >Sebastian show in Toronto was cancelled, he said of course it was - >it's a cartoon. More with than I usually give him credit for. > >So does anyone own a Great Pyreness named Belle? Know a small Swiss >boy named Sebastian? Like to romp about in the Alps? > >-- >Frank Yang > >In my CD player: Spiritualized - Ladies And Gentlemen We Are >Floating In Space > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Scott_Turner at xxx.COM Tue Nov 17 14:08:03 1998 From: Scott_Turner at xxx.COM (Scott Turner) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:08:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <852566BF.004D97F6.00@JHMAIL.JH.COM> unsubscribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SANDRAD at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 14:37:30 1998 From: SANDRAD at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 09:37:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? Message-ID: <01BE120D.E65DBBD0@SANDRA> Hello listees, This may not interest all of you, but in all fairness, after being on this list for many months, I have to say this is unnecessarily rude. Just for the record - I don't think there is room on this list for name-calling. Definitely not in the spirit of Belle & Sebastian. Alexandra -----Original Message----- From: Carmen [SMTP:Carmen at xxx.us] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 8:28 AM To: SANDRAD at accu-staff.com Subject: RE: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? The topic is Belle and Sebastian, silly. Not all of it is about music on this list here. I do trash what I don't like. I was just giving my opinion and all I get in return are snotty little girls replying who think I don't have a right to share my own opinion. Would you like it if I sent all of my trash to you? *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/12/98, at 12:59 PM, Sandra Duric wrote: >Without sounding too evil, what exactly is the topic, as you refer to it? Could it be Belle and Sebastian and the people behind it and the music that inspired them and the music that inspires us to share dreams and stories of buses and little things like that that bring people from numerous countries together, relating and possibly getting a more real picture of the world beyond MTV, BBC or CBC? It's always about the music, even the tangents. > >This is a gentle Canadian chill for you. I suggest you trash what you don't like and let everyone be silly once in a while. That's what I've been doing for months now. > >Alexandra >-----Original Message----- >From: Carmen [SMTP:Carmen at xxx.us] >Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:12 PM >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? > > >You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple--who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please. > >Kindly, >..CARMEN... >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheAdwiz at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 15:05:14 1998 From: TheAdwiz at xxx.com (TheAdwiz at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:05:14 EST Subject: Sinister: makin mixes for da masses Message-ID: i've realized how much music i've discovered by listening to mixes my friends have made. it's really given me an opportunity to hear bands i would have never otherwise heard and buy their albums. so i've decided that i will make anyone a mix tape on the condition they make one for me. it's a fair trade. 90 minutes for 90 minutes. i have a large cd collection (800 cds) and i'm always looking to hear new stuff and i love it when i share my music. so please contact me if interested. i am legendary amongst my friends for my mix capabilities. it's like my grandma used to say, "there's nothing like good mix". -arye (means "lion") +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 17 16:02:39 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:02:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Breaking the content duck Message-ID: <199811171556.PAA05312@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Hello again, oh sinisterines. I've been away for a few days due to a sudden lack of anything even mildly interesting to say. Not that I have now, but I feel a need to keep on subject, so... hmmn... um.... No, I give up. No, wait, I met a B&S fan yesterday. Not much to report though, I didn't speak to her much and then she dissapeared. Maybe I should introduce her to Sinister, if I ever see her again... And the lead singer of my band has a tape with the peel sessions on, so perhaps B&S peeps are lurking everywhere, ready to crawl out of the woodwork. I wouldn't have too much hope for Dan (the LS) though - He unrepentantly reads 'Kerrang.' I went around visiting your websites yesterday and I just have to express my admiration for Lesley J. Miller's effort. Go have a look at it people! Especially the mock-up teen mag which unfortunately is just a front cover and doesn't really have isobel's style tips inside. As yet no-one has entered my competition to win a cool address. I'm giving it until monday and then I may just give it away to the first person that asks. But not until then so don't send your begging letters. I've loads of other fascinating things to say, but I've got an a&r meeting to attend now so, Byeee, WeeJay XXXXXXXXXXX James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From HIS8JM at xxx.UK Tue Nov 17 16:17:46 1998 From: HIS8JM at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:17:46 GMT Subject: Sinister: denise Power Message-ID: <2924E0432B4@arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> Hey man is that Denise Power from Armagh? If it is it's me! We sat next to each other in Maths at school, God Miss Chang was a cow, and what a dodgy perm, if it's not you, then, Michelle Diamond was a cow too. When is the London meet up people? And why is it in The Poetry Cafe, never been, but it sounds bloody daunting, and Iused to write tonnes of the stuff. You could have my place but it's in Stanmore which is kinda out of the way. john the Moor in Stan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 17:06:19 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:06:19 EST Subject: Sinister: a quote to add to the ramblings (indeed) Message-ID: In a message dated 11/17/98 5:28:25 AM, Lady Penelope (who has a crush on Jessicaxo - good choice, i was thinking along the same lines) wrote: <> Hey - i'll be in Dublin on St Stephen's Day til Dec 31, if any Sinisters want to meet up let me know, we could go to the Trinity pub Longstone (well, not a Trinity pub, but seems to get a lot of Trinity kids although some DCU'ers had a birthday party there when i was there Feb '97) or to some other pub since there's tons of ace pubs all over Dublin - I do like the Scholar as well... sigh. i'm looking forward to being back there. so yeppers if anyone wants to set up some Sinister meet-up in Dublin while i'm there then let me know so I can meet up as well. xox mike ps - ill be in new orlenas for a week so if anyone emails me, don't expect a reply til next week. i'm not going to leave the list though so i can read the posts when i return. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Tue Nov 17 18:18:47 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:18:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: HAVE A BANANA!!!!! In-Reply-To: <199811170101.BAA21079@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <001301be1256$b814a240$4c0c93c3@whelan> Mike wrote.... In a message dated 11/16/98 10:07:24 AM, Seamus wrote: <> wait wait - what was Eugene Kelley doing at this show? was he performing as support or is he playing with B&S or what? is it Eugenius or just Eugene or did he revive Captain America? Eugenius were Captain America, they just had to change the name after a nasty letter from Marvel Comics, or which ever one CA appeared in. also whatever happened to Francis from Vaselines, i still love that band. Although the split live tape with Beat Happening is ace, i think Vaselines were really good in '86-'87, better than in '88 - their Port Talbot, Raffles show is really excellent even if it is only like 30 minutes. YAY! At last I have found something I can tell you all about, I bet Weejay beats me too it though. This was recently posted on the Chemikal Underground mail list. "From: Stuart McHugh Since this is the place to discuss all manner of Scottish music, thought I'd tell you about Suckle, who are the new vehicle for Frances McKee, on-time Vaseline (you remember the Nirvana cover versions, surely?) Suckle's the new band ayway, Frances has been quite far-removed from music for a few years since the Vaselines broke up, but the new stuff is pretty good - there should be a new lp out in the new year. For now there's a 12" single under the name of Mount Vernon, which includes a version of a Painkillers (previous band) song "Lost in Space" which is pretty amazing, kind of tripy feel to it, odd lyrics, great vocals. Well, I think so anyway. I think you can get it in Glasgow shops, or maybe by mail order. (ask for details if necessary)." TELLYTUBBY BY BYES EL Hombre Del Mullet +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Tue Nov 17 15:53:37 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:53:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: he swallowed his pride and puckered his lips.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981117105337.00697804@beacon.eastern.edu> Chris Leonard said: >...hello, it's Cro-Magnon Chris. Sorry for not being the most >communicative of chums recently, but I've been busy stalking Sarah >Wheeler. I'm SO excited that the stalking thing is catching on. Maybe we can start a second list for people who are too obsessive to have list 'crushes' so they have list stalks instead. 'Cept i don't want to be in charge of it cos i have more mail than i can deal with already. Or maybe it's just me and Chris and it doesn't matter anyway. *peers at Honey from across the ocean* Lady Penelope said: >jessica is officially my list crush - not the foxinasnow jessica but >the bissxo one. That's the closest i've come to getting a list crush yet, having someone remember to distinguish me from their true crush. Which i guess is better than not being remembered at all. It's kind of like that oh-so-clever listee who was gonna change their name to 'Phillipe' to get all the mistaken fans of Philippe one-l two-p's. I thought that was a brilliant idea. Maybe i'll have a list crush on that person, though i forget who it was. Phillipe. Hmm, maybe i'd get more list crushes if i talked about all my boy troubles. It worked for Jessicaxo, right? But i just get depressed thinking about it. Plus, i always worry that one of these boys will somehow read this list, cos i always have enough taste to get involved with boys who like Belle and Sebastian, even if i don't have much more taste than that. Cos apparently it takes a teensy bit more taste than that, believe it or not. Tasteless, Jessica Foxinasnow "When you're dancing and laughing and finally living, hear my voice in your head and think of me kindly" - The Smiths Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 18:31:27 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 10:31:27 -0800 Subject: Sinister: HAVE A BANANA!!!!! Message-ID: >also whatever happened to Francis from Vaselines, i still love that band. If it's the same Francis as Francis from the Pastels then he's still playing with BMX Bandits...he looks the same...saw them a few months back. He even sings behind all those drums. what will they think of next....? beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Tue Nov 17 19:57:01 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:57:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ooh, watch it References: <011d01be0e8c$cb82a660$03000004@n2f9x2> <199811171456070820.0028C406@204.96.36.40> Message-ID: <199811171457010760.002996CD@204.96.36.40> As sent to Alix Campbell: I wasn't telling anyone what to write or what not to write. I tried to make it as nice as possible. I was just trying to give my opinion. You don't have to like what I say; that's your opinion. I like to let the world know what I think, and I think it's not so great to hear about assumed relationships and lifestyles of band members, or what some person who likes B&S had for breakfast--that was all I was saying. You said, "The point is, the lives and opinions of the listees are frequently more interesting and funny than staying on topic," and that only proves my point of 'opinion.' But the topic (B&S) is quite interesting, in my opinion, and if you don't think so, than I ask you, 'Why are you on this list?' I'm on this list because I would like to know the band's developments, accomplishments, and what their fans think about these things. So much is happening with the band right now that there should be plenty to talk about. I don't believe that I was being patronizing; I was trying to be as polite as possible about the situation. And who needs virtual cyber friends anyway? If you can't make friends with living, breathing people in the flesh, then you have problems. I enjoy communicating with fellow B&S fans, but I don't think a good, meaningful friendship could possibly be made through typing simple words. I'm interested in people's opioins and ideas and what is happening with the band Belle and Sebastian and maybe some similar bands, and that is why I am on this list, and that's what I thought this list was about. ...CARMEN... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/12/98, at 10:35 PM, Alix Campbell wrote: >darling listy wisty > >i am not easily offended, but what upsets me is people telling others what >to write, or not to write. Carmen's post wasn't very nice, and inaccurate. >It's not as if the topic is so far removed from B&S that we continually talk >about australasian sheep farming techniques, or the like. if we talked >exclusively about b&S, where would we be? discussions concerned solely with >the middle eight of mary jo?, the merits of the slow version of seeing other >people?. interesting - yes, but not forever. And who's to say that this >isn't the topic anyway? >Tear me apart and boil my bones, but being patronising is no way to win >friends. But >perhaps she doesn't want to. If so, i'd assume that maybe she expects >something different from a list. So, my apologies, Carmen, i'm glad you like >B&S, but you don't seem interested in the other people who like them too, >and surely that is an integral part to this list?. But anyway, chances are >she won't read this; there's no b&s content. > >this is the last time i'm going to be so horrid. > >alix. c > >*****yes I KNOW i've been just as patronising, and opinionated. > >"So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, >or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I >might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing >The Bland' > > >wot carmen sed......... > >You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my >mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club >list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. >Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if >one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel >might be a couple--who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your >assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please. > >Kindly, >...CARMEN... > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Tue Nov 17 20:26:58 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:26:58 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? References: <199811170817580910.002194DF@204.96.36.40> Message-ID: <199811171526580920.004503EC@204.96.36.40> I'm sorry if I missed anyone's complaints about the letter I sent, which is below this one. If you want to criticise me or, as only one person has done so far, praise me, please do so. Thank Y'all for Your Time, ...CARMEN... ================================================================================================== >> You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple--who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please. >> >> Kindly, >> ...CARMEN... >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, >> FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >> +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >> +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 20:22:18 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:22:18 -0000 Subject: Sinister: It was a sham I tell you, a sham... Message-ID: <001101be1267$f96c2c20$442fc22b@bond> Ink Polaroid; You can see two girls standing in a small crowd of kids. The girls have scowls on their faces and are clearly squaring up for a fight, although they are still at the pushing stage. The kids around them are clapping their hands and shouting "Fight! Fight! Fight!...". In the background, just over to the right, you can see the kids who stayed by the sandbox, the quiet ones looking at the crowd with fear whilst the older kids are trying to ignore it. Some of them have noticed Mrs. Honey striding over, and she is not happy... Michael PS Any listees living in Japan? Any living near Atsugi? Or Tokyo? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SANDRAD at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 20:44:51 1998 From: SANDRAD at xxx.com (Sandra Duric) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:44:51 -0500 Subject: FW: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? Message-ID: <01BE1241.42C4CAC0@SANDRA> Hi listees, Maybe we can have this stop if I just forward every nasty email I get from Carmen to the list? I'm getting sick of this. Alexandra -----Original Message----- From: Carmen [SMTP:Carmen at xxx.us] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 3:11 PM To: SANDRAD at accu-staff.com Subject: RE: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? What name calling is here? Do you want my trash? *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/17/98, at 9:37 AM, Sandra Duric wrote: >Hello listees, > >This may not interest all of you, but in all fairness, after being on this list for many months, I have to say this is unnecessarily rude. > >Just for the record - I don't think there is room on this list for name-calling. Definitely not in the spirit of Belle & Sebastian. > >Alexandra > >-----Original Message----- >From: Carmen [SMTP:Carmen at xxx.us] >Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 8:28 AM >To: SANDRAD at accu-staff.com >Subject: RE: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? > >The topic is Belle and Sebastian, silly. Not all of it is about music on this list here. I do trash what I don't like. I was just giving my opinion and all I get in return are snotty little girls replying who think I don't have a right to share my own opinion. Would you like it if I sent all of my trash to you? > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 11/12/98, at 12:59 PM, Sandra Duric wrote: > >>Without sounding too evil, what exactly is the topic, as you refer to it? Could it be Belle and Sebastian and the people behind it and the music that inspired them and the music that inspires us to share dreams and stories of buses and little things like that that bring people from numerous countries together, relating and possibly getting a more real picture of the world beyond MTV, BBC or CBC? It's always about the music, even the tangents. >> >>This is a gentle Canadian chill for you. I suggest you trash what you don't like and let everyone be silly once in a while. That's what I've been doing for months now. >> >>Alexandra >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Carmen [SMTP:Carmen at xxx.us] >>Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:12 PM >>To: sinister at majordomo.net >>Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? >> >> >>You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple-who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please. >> >>Kindly, >>..CARMEN... >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, >> FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >> +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >> +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> >> >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, >> FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >> +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >> +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From laurel.girvan at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 20:40:06 1998 From: laurel.girvan at xxx.com (laurel.girvan at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:40:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: It was a sham I tell you, a sham... Message-ID: MRS. Honey? i believe you meant MIZ. a true tart never divulges her marital status. even if she's a playground monitor. and if you don't stop eating that sand (kitties have been known to poo in it, you know), she'll be striding in YOUR direction. right, i'll go back to falling off the jungle gym now. --pythy wythy ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: Sinister: It was a sham I tell you, a sham... Author: Michael.Barrett at adv.sonybpe.com at INTERNET Date: 11/17/98 3:26 PM Ink Polaroid; You can see two girls standing in a small crowd of kids. The girls have scowls on their faces and are clearly squaring up for a fight, although they are still at the pushing stage. The kids around them are clapping their hands and shouting "Fight! Fight! Fight!...". In the background, just over to the right, you can see the kids who stayed by the sandbox, the quiet ones looking at the crowd with fear whilst the older kids are trying to ignore it. Some of them have noticed Mrs. Honey striding over, and she is not happy... Michael PS Any listees living in Japan? Any living near Atsugi? Or Tokyo? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at ph.ed.ac.uk". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at ph.ed.ac.uk". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Tue Nov 17 20:51:59 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:51:59 -0500 Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? References: <01BE1241.42C4CAC0@SANDRA> Message-ID: <3651E1EF.890A8CD9@itl.ca> Okay, lurkers opinion here. This was a really nice list and though I couldn't quite relate to many of the posts, initially (particularly those gushing about how wonderful B&S were live... grrr... the cancelled Toronto show will live in infamy, but I digress), it surprised me how polite and friendly everyone was. Well I still think you're all wonderful folk, but I also think everyone needs to figure out exactly what they're looking for from this list. The simple fact is, it's a bunch of people with one big thing in common (devotion to B&S), who generally enjoy conversing with each other about whatever they like. While I can understand maybe being frustrated with a mailbox overflowing with Sinister letters (like Monday mornings when I come into work and have over 250 messages... that's a good solid 2 hours of not working, so I'm not complaining...), the fact is that is what this list is. If threads get way off topic, well, there's not much you can do about it. I hope this doesn't sound nasty (cause that's not how it's intended), but if you don't like what the list is, unsubscribe, or start your own. I've joined many lists and removed myself from nearly as many, for exactly these reasons. And really, what would Stuart say if he saw us bickering like this? This is not the world B&S intended. Peace. -- Frank Yang "Aah, McGarnigle... Eases the pain." In my CD player: Teenage Fanclub - Bandwagonesque -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From esincoff at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 21:06:57 1998 From: esincoff at xxx.com (Ethan Sincoff) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:06:57 -0500 Subject: FW: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? References: <01BE1241.42C4CAC0@SANDRA> Message-ID: <3651E570.DC992351@icon.com> all of y'all are being so silly chill out ... the two of you ! ethan Sandra Duric wrote: > Hi listees, > > Maybe we can have this stop if I just forward every nasty email I get from Carmen to the list? I'm getting sick of this. > > Alexandra > > -----Original Message----- > From: Carmen [SMTP:Carmen at xxx.us] > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 3:11 PM > To: SANDRAD at accu-staff.com > Subject: RE: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? > > What name calling is here? Do you want my trash? > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > On 11/17/98, at 9:37 AM, Sandra Duric wrote: > >Hello listees, > > > >This may not interest all of you, but in all fairness, after being on this list for many months, I have to say this is unnecessarily rude. > > > >Just for the record - I don't think there is room on this list for name-calling. Definitely not in the spirit of Belle & Sebastian. > > > >Alexandra > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Carmen [SMTP:Carmen at xxx.us] > >Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 1998 8:28 AM > >To: SANDRAD at accu-staff.com > >Subject: RE: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? > > > >The topic is Belle and Sebastian, silly. Not all of it is about music on this list here. I do trash what I don't like. I was just giving my opinion and all I get in return are snotty little girls replying who think I don't have a right to share my own opinion. Would you like it if I sent all of my trash to you? > > > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > > > >On 11/12/98, at 12:59 PM, Sandra Duric wrote: > > > >>Without sounding too evil, what exactly is the topic, as you refer to it? Could it be Belle and Sebastian and the people behind it and the music that inspired them and the music that inspires us to share dreams and stories of buses and little things like that that bring people from numerous countries together, relating and possibly getting a more real picture of the world beyond MTV, BBC or CBC? It's always about the music, even the tangents. > >> > >>This is a gentle Canadian chill for you. I suggest you trash what you don't like and let everyone be silly once in a while. That's what I've been doing for months now. > >> > >>Alexandra > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: Carmen [SMTP:Carmen at xxx.us] > >>Sent: Thursday, November 12, 1998 12:12 PM > >>To: sinister at majordomo.net > >>Subject: Sinister: You know what I don't understand? > >> > >> > >>You know what I don't understand? Why is it that every time I check my mail, I have 175 emails all from the Sinister Belle and Sebastian fan club list, and usually none of them have anything to do with Belle and Sebastian. Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple-who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please. > >> > >>Kindly, > >>..CARMEN... > >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > >> To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > >> "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > >> FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > >> +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > >> +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >> > >> > >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > >> To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > >> "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > >> FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > >> +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > >> +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Tue Nov 17 21:07:04 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:07:04 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: They're taking it out on us Message-ID: What is the general interpretation of this line: "All the others did drugs they're taking it out on us" Is this the lament of a drug-free generation Y-er who is faster, leaner, smarter, and more computer savvy than his washed-up 60's, 70's and 80's counterparts who did drugs and are now taking out their feelings of inferiority for having done them on him? Is this what I have to look forward to from my children? Yikes! Ciao, Heather, a Generation X-er +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From CMarcoux at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 21:16:29 1998 From: CMarcoux at xxx.com (Carly Marcoux) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:16:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ugly posts. Message-ID: <61879243F4F7D11187000060082BD70F1DC50D@Windsor-3.Windsor.McGill.com> "Why is this? I end up not even reading most of them because I know that if one is about Belle and Sebastian, it's about how Stuart Murdoch and Isobel might be a couple-who cares? I don't think either of them enjoy your assumptions of their relationship. Try keeping on the topic, please." -CARMEN just for the record, this didn't sound like a very nice post. and everyone here is supposed to be friends, right? we know you were just stating your opinion, but your opinion sounded much like a scold. everyone seems pretty happy with the way things are moving along and not that you should choose another list, but i have to say that i do agree wholeheartedly with what alexandra said when she stated that "Belle and Sebastian and the people behind it and the music that inspired them and the music that inspires us to share dreams and stories of buses and little things like that that bring people from numerous countries together, relating and possibly getting a more real picture of the world beyond MTV, BBC or CBC" it's the glue that sticks the people together and keeps them grooving. "I was just giving my opinion and all I get in return are snotty little girls replying who think I don't have a right to share my own opinion. Would you like it if I sent all of my trash to you?" -CARMEN Now Carmen, it sounds to me like you got all up in arms for nothing when someone was just explaining a reason for something. And your post sounds rather threatening, not that sending someone your trashed posts is very threatening, but the tone you took could have been put in a better way to make people understand where you were coming from instead of name-calling and stamping your feet. "What name calling is here? Do you want my trash?"-CARMEN sometimes you just have to let a subject drop. No one needs to be threatened especially not in a creepy way. "I'm sorry if I missed anyone's complaints about the letter I sent, which is below this one. If you want to criticise me or, as only one person has done so far, praise me, please do so. Thank Y'all for Your Time, ..CARMEN..." carrying on like this makes no sense whatsoever. "Ink Polaroid; You can see two girls standing in a small crowd of kids. The girls have scowls on their faces and are clearly squaring up for a fight, although they are still at the pushing stage. The kids around them are clapping their hands and shouting "Fight! Fight! Fight!...". In the background, just over to the right, you can see the kids who stayed by the sandbox, the quiet ones looking at the crowd with fear whilst the older kids are trying to ignore it. Some of them have noticed Mrs. Honey striding over, and she is not happy..." Michael, this is a sad ink polaroid... it shouldn't take honey to break something like this up... a sad sad bunny. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Tue Nov 17 22:21:34 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:21:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: GRRRRR Message-ID: <008001be1278$b59ea0c0$03000004@n2f9x2> carmen sent me, and the list a post. i'm sick of this. we both seem to be asking each other why we are on the list, and why we haven't left, i haven't left because i like it. it's an argument about the fact that we have differing opinions. i know that we do. i didn't say that carmen's opinions were invalid, or wrong. i said that i feel that she has missed the point of the list. but possibly i am wrong about the point of the list. >I'm interested in people's opioins and ideas and what is happening< that is what is on the list, no? >>If you can't make friends with living, breathing people in the flesh, then you have problems i hope this wasn't directed specifically at me:) but again, am i mistaken in thinking that listerettes meet up sometimes? thinking about it, i am insulted that carmen thinks virtual cyber friends are pointless. take note those reading this, you are all pointless. gives you a warm glow, doesn't it? i do like the topic of B&S, i wouldn't be here if i didn't, but this isn't a solely a news list and what i first wrote still stands. and yes, you're right, i don't have to like what you say. i think someone said before, carmen's posts sound threatening, and that's not nice. now, i am not happy that i have to waste time writing nastiness. carmen seems to bring out the bitch in me and i apologise. horridness is not the way i am. i'm not going to say anymore on this subject, unless pushed. i'm taking my cold to bed. goodnight. alix.x "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 22:41:08 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 22:41:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bob and Margaret Message-ID: <3651FB84.728B@seahouses.u-net.com> I didn't see the Young Persons Guide To becoming A Rock Star last week but I watched it tonight and it was fucking funny! Are the band REALLY called "Jocks Whahey" ? Class. And for you UK people, Bob and Margaret is starting on Channel 4 tomorrow night at 1030pm, this is really great, it's been in the US for ages but now it's HERE. Watch it. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jeni_Morton at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 22:46:59 1998 From: Jeni_Morton at xxx.com (Jeni Morton) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:46:59 -0800 Subject: Sinister: GRRRRR Message-ID: <000674CE.4155@rhinorecords.com> Ink Polaroid #2: This is me, photo jeni, sitting on a big fluffy chair, in my black combats and navey blue pullover-v neck sweater. I'm sunk into this chair because it's soooo fluffy and soft and lovely.......I'm holding my cup of tea, (In my Mick Cooke, B&S mug!) and a piece of shortbread....the expression on my face is one of confusion, but I look quite enthralled (sp?) at the same time. It looks as though i may be watching "Jerry Springer" or some other obnoxious show on the tv.....but if you look at the other side of this photo, you'll see some listees arguing and your really not sure why they are doing it publicly, but I keep on watching, sipping my tea, and nibbleing on my biscut............ Photo Jeni xoxoxoxoxo _______________________________________________________________________________ Subject: Sinister: GRRRRR From: "Alix Campbell" at Internet Date: 17/11/98 10:21 pm carmen sent me, and the list a post. i'm sick of this. we both seem to be asking each other why we are on the list, and why we haven't left, i haven't left because i like it. it's an argument about the fact that we have differing opinions. i know that we do. i didn't say that carmen's opinions were invalid, or wrong. i said that i feel that she has missed the point of the list. but possibly i am wrong about the point of the list. >I'm interested in people's opioins and ideas and what is happening< that is what is on the list, no? >>If you can't make friends with living, breathing people in the flesh, then you have problems i hope this wasn't directed specifically at me:) but again, am i mistaken in thinking that listerettes meet up sometimes? thinking about it, i am insulted that carmen thinks virtual cyber friends are pointless. take note those reading this, you are all pointless. gives you a warm glow, doesn't it? i do like the topic of B&S, i wouldn't be here if i didn't, but this isn't a solely a news list and what i first wrote still stands. and yes, you're right, i don't have to like what you say. i think someone said before, carmen's posts sound threatening, and that's not nice. now, i am not happy that i have to waste time writing nastiness. carmen seems to bring out the bitch in me and i apologise. horridness is not the way i am. i'm not going to say anymore on this subject, unless pushed. i'm taking my cold to bed. goodnight. alix.x "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 22:54:02 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 14:54:02 PST Subject: Sinister: believe this, croc Message-ID: <19981117225403.23145.qmail@hotmail.com> Hey hey! It took something like this for someone to mention Prolapse again? Eeeky poo. Pretties, wuvzaroonees all around. Look what you've got me doing now. Pretty soon I'll sprout blue fur. Personally I'm torn. I'd love to be able to stay on topic but haven't. To whomever wanted to know what "all the others did drugs, they're taking it out on us" really means.... well.... I can't say, obviously, FOR SURE but it's like when you join the military it's suddenly very very much "us and them"... patriots are made, not born; between the fact that you've chosen a different lifestyle (for whatever reason) and people, even ones who've known you forever, stereotyping you like crazy, you retreat and become very suspicious/jealous of all your former friends who can still lead really free lives and do drugs and not strive to be really successful. Especially if you're someone who used to be cool a long time ago ("Roxy in '72") but have long forfeited your claim (or right, really) to being a basically leftist, anarchist, individualistic, free spirit and no one will let you think you still can be the same. I know. The ghost of hippie (and punk, too) dies hard. Thank God. Granted, though, lots of military types are the biggest assholes and wifebeaters this side of the Euphrates. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nanettee at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 23:00:14 1998 From: Nanettee at xxx.com (Nanettee at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:00:14 EST Subject: Sinister: I like my "virtual cyberfriends," thank you very much Message-ID: This whole argument about list content is really, really silly, in my opinion (and probably the opinion of lots of others). I have never, ever been on a mailing list that doesn't contain some amount of fluff unrelated to the subject of the list. But that's part of the fun of it. I didn't think anyone subscribed to a mailing list and expected it to stay on topic. Yes, there is a lot of traffic on this list. It's something that I noticed after one day of subscribing. Yes, some of it is irrelevant to me. But you know what? I just delete what is irrelevant. No complaints, no bother. If I miss something, I'm sure I'll catch up eventually. What bothered me was the comment about "who needs virtual cyberfriends." I've met a lot of wonderful people over the Internet, and so have many of my friends. Does this mean that "I can't make friends with living, breathing people in the flesh"? No, it doesn't. I'm a perfectly well-adjusted human being (albeit a bit shy). I took offense at this comment. I found it insulting. Relationships formed over the Internet can be just as intense and personal as relationships formed in real life. It may sound sort of cheesy to meet people that way, but I'll find friends wherever I can. Anyone who is going to discount a friendship as being "unimportant" just because it takes place over the Internet needs to open their mind a little bit. And now for some obligatory B&S content...I have been listening to "Le Pastie De La Bourgeoise" all day...and I have been enjoying it immensely. I'm upset that I missed the video on 120 Minutes...I was even awake, but I never watch any more...the garbage that passes for "alternative" just makes my head hurt. But now I realize that I'm going to have to watch it...but with my luck, they'll never repeat it, and I'm out of luck....bah. xo love nanette! no idea, no spark: nanette's online journal http://www.geocities.com/soho/workshop/7432/ new entry coming soon!! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Tue Nov 17 23:02:46 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:02:46 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: *SIGH* Read or pestilence and sores will follow In-Reply-To: <199811171457010760.002996CD@204.96.36.40> Message-ID: The luscious M* Laurel spoke truthfully when she said: "MRS. Honey? i believe you meant MIZ. a true tart never divulges her marital status." Implying that no-one's made an honest Honey of me, which is very true. Well this Miz Honey's in a mood because I just told you all how to behave, ooo, was it two days ago? And specifically, that no-one should be discussing ON the list WHAT the list is about. /me puts my hands on my hips. Look it's very simple. I'm the only one who's allowed to discuss list content. The reason's straightforward: if anyone else does then the list disappears up its own backside and stops being about anything else but itself. This is a classic rule of mailing lists and you should know this by now; the only person who knows anything about nice backsides is the very fragrant and dazzling Mark C. Please everyone who's posting yes or nos about what it's about please think for one second how completely self-defeating it is. All the information on list content is in the FAQ, and is not the subject of on-list debate, go and have a little think the few who are doing it. This is the last warning, anyone else prolonging this very tedious game of ping-pong will be unceremoniously cut off without a penny. If you want to do it there are plenty of other mailing lists where it is tolerated, nay, encouraged but they aren't here. No more please and no more discussing about whether there should be any more, or indeed whether we should be discussing that. Oh indeed saying sorry. Send a cheery mail about B&S related smut instead or something, and your soul will be redeemed. A few points of order and then I will go: o It is certainly bad etiquette, and almost certainly technically *illegal* to forward private mails to a mailing list. The copyright of an email remains with the originator. And besides we don't need to know about alleged insulting behaviour behind our backs - you can be rude to each other for hours off Sinister, because I'm not the form monitor in your life, it's just I won't have it on Sinister, because it's boring for the rest of us. o On a more personal note it's also staggeringly untrue in personal experience that "good meaningful relationships" can't come through words, i.e. mailing lists. I'm thrilled to say I've found some of the closest and sweetest yummiest friends I've ever had through this humble list, and I suspect I will know some of them all my life if I behave. I also know of a number of serious relationships going well into double figures that have happened through Sinister. So watch out! You never know what might happen. OK, I admit it, for once this email might have been directed at a few people, but let me assure you it's not just one, and please don't feel victimised, I'm just putting the house in order. And that everyone's still welcome on this list, and that if you send me personal mail on this, I probably won't be able to reply for ages, and please don't assume I'm therefore in a mood, email is tricky for me to keep up with just now, that's all. And therefore the possibility of the Vengeance of the Lord being swift and unforgiving if this isn't heeded is therefore relatively high, compared to, say, the possibility of me going for a jog tomorrow. But NO MORE on this please. This is Year Zero. Thank you, tarty ms honey P.S. Who was that at the back who just said "I like your earlier, funny mails"? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Tue Nov 17 23:29:42 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:29:42 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: Frances Message-ID: >Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 15:28:11 -0800 >To:"Matthew Neimark" >From:barzy at networkmags.com (Madame Cholet) >Subject:Re: Frances > >>Hi Beth: >> >>I think Frances from the Vaselines was female. >> >>Matt > >OH THAT Frances! Ha...I wasn't ever too into them.....Obviously! RIOT! :D >Thanks Matty... Oh that's rich..I kill myself :o Beth (watching Jeni spill her tea) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 18 00:09:01 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 00:09:01 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Just chill folks... In-Reply-To: <000674CE.4155@rhinorecords.com> Message-ID: Ink Polaroid no. 1425: So that's me, right, sitting in the Bath Ale House this evening (it's a pub in town, notable for a fine selection of beers and for providing the opportunity for lots of easy jokes such as "I'll see you in the bath at 7pm"). I'm the one on the right, sipping a coke. I think I told you, I've given up alcohol until at least the end of the month - 4 days gone and I'm badly missing it already. Anyway, I'm looking towards the camera for 2 reasons - firstly because there's an arcade game over there, and I can't help myself watching it silently persuading people to part with their money; and partly because the two people on my right are having an argument. She's just come over from Australia, where she met and started going out with him over the summer, and she's a bit upset that when he's been telling us all about her he's kept on calling her "Nursie" instead of her real name. When this was taken I think I was contemplating whether I should leave here and move to somewhere with warmer weather. Like, say, Siberia. ------------------------------ Don't you think Honey's lovely when he's angry? Pay heed to what the man says - this is the place to be lovely not loveless. Speaking of which, you've got until lunchtime tomorrow (UK time) to tell me which listee you've got a crush on, if you haven't already (and about 100 of you already have voted for at least one person, so there's a lot of you left...). The great thing of course about compiling the list myself - apart from knowing all the gossip that noone else knows, often including the people involved - is that I know which delusional fools have been voting for me. Unfortunately if have now realised that not one of them is English. I may have to accompany B&S on their next world tour just to meet you. Actually, that's not such a good idea, it'll probably put you all off me for good, judging by current form. But anyway, a big hug to - well you know who you are, I'm not telling everyone! :-x I'm rambling now, aren't I? Time for bed, Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 00:22:04 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:22:04 PST Subject: Sinister: Nutt'n' Hunny... Message-ID: <19981118002205.12338.qmail@hotmail.com> Honey does write funny emails. Here's my favorite which I have saved and cherished. Here it is for the rest of the class... Cheers, Rachael (spittin' and grinnin') -------------------------------- As everyone knows, I actually write all the emails to this list myself, and people like Timothy Pookins are actually figments of my vivid honey sexual imagination. So just to help you all out, as some of you will be a bit tired after the gigs, I've done all the mails for early September early so you don't have to rush off and read them then. September 6th: "I've just got a copy of The Boy With The Wonky Lap from an old man with sick on his coat at Kings Cross, it's WONDERFUL, I cried all the way home and then ate a whole packet of Maltesers in one sitting, and then I saw a sparrow -- squiffytoes XXX" September 7th: "Yaaaaay Ive got my copy, I'm in heaven, I love Stuart, I'm going to write him a big thankyou note and send him a list of all our list songs on the list that I've listed, he'll really like that, won't he? P.S I especially like the glockenspiel on Seymour Stain -- fancypants" "I've been banging on the counter at HMV for 3 hours, telling them I've got to have a copy of Wonky Lap and then I found I'd only brought 23p with me it's not FAIR, fascists, why does everyone hate me, can someone do me a tape please, as swaps I can offer a complete set of Kajagoogoo bootlegs from the fabulous "Eat More Cheese" tour of 1983. -- MrKJ" "It's not a glockenspiel you idiot, we've all been listening to it for 6 months now, what's the big deal, it's a xylophone, I wish people would check things out before they post -- Timothy Tantric Tantrum" "Well it sounds like a glockenspiel to me... sorry I just thought, sorry sorry... -- fancypants" September 8th: "Whoooo I've just bought TBWTWL on CD, vinyl and etch-a-sketch format, it's GREATTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT, and I'm sure I saw Mick Cooke in Habitat in Leicester, he had the false nose and everything P.S. I haven't read the digests yet, I'm too excited, but my favourite track is the one with the glockenspiel -- CakeFace" "Isn't delaying the release of the LP in the US a day so that the UK can get ahead just typical of a massive conglomerate like Jeepster, oh well I have the LP now, but I don't think it's as good as the demo tape I've had all along, recorded in a cellar in Austria, I just don't think this LP anything like as good, I'm sorry I know it's against the spirit of this list but I have to say it, corporations suck, printed word destroys, rage kill smash, oh shit my toast is burning -- monsterX" "God I'm leaving this list, it's complete nails, people just don't care anymore, it's a xylophone, what happened to the Dunkirk spirit, we've all been listening to Wonky Lap since 1982 when we met Chris at the Ideal Home Exhibition and he gave us a tape, what's the big deal anyway -- Timothy" "Wonky is FAB I love the cover, where did they get that picture of Leonard Rossiter from, I like tracks 8,6,2,1,5,6,8,3,8,7 and 8 best, does anyone think the line about herring in Smutty Dream #2 is a bit weak? -- wishingwell XoX" September 9th: "How dare you slag off the LP, so-called fan wishing so-called well, I think it's ALL great, I sent you a tape of Tigermilk and everything, and you never gave me money back for the stamp, well I think the new LP is fantastic it ROCKS in spite of what others are saying -- BigPea" "Well I agree with wishingwell, and can I say, ACTUALLY, that I don't think, ACTUALLY, that the new LP is as good as everyone is saying, god you're all so immature, I KNEW it wouldn't be, I KNEW you wouldn't admit it, I KNEW it all but I didn't want to post and show off -- acrossmybody" "HI! I'VE JUST JOINED THE EMAILING LIST BECAUSE I BOUGHT THE BOY WITH THE WONKY LAP. IT'S REALLY GREAT CAN ANYONE TELL ME IF BILL AND SEBASTIAN HAVE DONE ANYTHING ELSE, WASN'T IT A CARTOON, WHEN ARE THEY TOURING, WHO IS STUART, HOW DO I UNSUBSCRIBE -- CLEMENCE" September 10th: "I'd look in the archives but I'm too pissed, so could someone tell me what the instrument is on Seymour Stain, I'm sure it's a glockenspiel -- CoOol" "UNSUBSCRIBE CLEMENCE" "It's a fucking xylophone, a x-y-l-o-p-h-o-n-e, I knew you'd all make a fuss over this LP, it's not that great, I'd say a big disappointment actually although I didn't want to say it before, I agree with monsterX, I knew loads of new people would join this list and wreck it. -- Timothy" "UNSUBSCROBE SINISTER" "UNSUBSCRIBE SINISTER" "Piss off Wonky Lap is great, I like the song about herring best -- ppp" September 11th "I hate this list, I'm leaving, you're all so ignorant -- Timothy" "I hate this list, I'm leaving, you're all so pompous -- fancypants" "LEAVE SINISTER CLEMENCE QUIT UNSUBSCRIBE ALL ^C" ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Tue Nov 17 23:59:53 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:59:53 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Blacky's Boys and other lefties Message-ID: <29BkyFA53gU2EwlP@subcult.demon.co.uk> Evan Gregg wrote: "another underrecognized (though they could never be worshipped enough to please me) is Giant Sand, though off shoots like Calexico and Friends Of Dean Martinez are getting some exposure Giant Sand is criminally unknown in general im sure plenty of people will disagree with me but i have to say that they are the best band in america if not the most talented group of three musicians" ...And all I can do is agree. Newcomers to their twisted desert rock should check out Swerve, The Love Songs, Ramp, Center Of The Universe et al right away. Of course, live they are somewhat ramshackle, but as Howe Gelb once remarked its all part of a search for the "wobble and the crawl". He's a one-off, an utterly captivating flake poet genius while his rhythm section are as tight as the legendary gnat's chuff. They did the best ever version of 'All Along The Watchtower' and had the audacity to follow it up with the best 'Can't Put Your Arms Around A Memory' you'll ever hear too. And OP8's cover of 'Round And Round' is also bewitching, in a Shoey revival kinda' way. Now then, having seen how quickly you all picked up the conversational baton re. what you are wearing (hmm, cardies and indie band T-shirts still seem to predominate) and what you all think of B&S' font usage (at least one of you was particularly effusive on this vital matter), I should now like to know how many of us are, like the good Mr Murdoch, left-handed. That's left-handed in the left-handed sense of the word, by the way. I am, and I reckon there's an above average proportion of us cack-handed-useless-with-scissors-stick-our-tongues-out-when-trying-to- use-a-potato-peeler-types out there. Look at my website and you'll see I even play my bass in the 'sinister' fashion. -- Martin Horsfield, leftie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 00:55:53 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:55:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: your response to my response Message-ID: <19981118005553.3805.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> Funny, isn't it, this discrepancy we always find between what is and what we think should be? thanks for noticing my posting, aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil "What makes most people feel happy leads us headlong into harm." --The Smiths _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 18 01:52:28 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 20:52:28 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Cyberfriends ain't no friends of mine Message-ID: <3652285C.CE3B0F1A@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hullo List, I've been a bit busy lately making crappy lithographs and organizing a portfolio and such things. So I caught up on my mail today, and I found something that disturbed me to no end... I'm going to attempt to reference the tempestuous Miss Carmen's message without discussing the list content part of it. and so she writes.... > And who needs virtual cyber friends > anyway? If you can't make friends with living, breathing people in > the flesh, then you have problems. I enjoy communicating with fellow > B&S fans, but I don't think a good, meaningful friendship could > possibly be made through typing simple words. I can't believe this statement is coming from someone who is less than 80 years old. I've been on internet-like types of communications for about 6 years now, and the stigma associated with those who meet friends and (gasp) lovers by means other than the traditional is unbelieveable, as I'm sure you will all realize from reading posts like this. The internet is a new thing, and so people will naturally be afraid or disdainful of its effects on society, but knowing this doesn't make statements like these seem any less judgemental or hurtful. First of all, there is a stigma attached that people who make friends through the internet can't make friends off of it. And I suppose that there may be some people like that, but for the most part it's just not true. I wouldn't call myself a popular guy, but I think I'm pretty personable off the internet, and I have friends off of it. In certain cases I have become very good friends with people I met by normal means who have friends they met through the internet. This didn't mean that they were socially misshapen, and they were in all cases quite nice friends. And another thing, I've kept in touch with friends that I met off the internet with the internet, once we moved away from one another, and I can tell you that it doesn't diminish our friendships in any way. And if you lot think people rudely make generalizations about those with "virtual cyberfriends" nowadays, you should have been around 6 years ago. At least now there are a lot of us, so it doesn't seem so strange to most. I recall a time when all drugs & youth problems seemed attributed to internet-using ravers. Hah. Argh, and that statement about making good, meaningful friends, oh that just had me up in arms. Look, more than one member of Belle & Sebastian have met people who were more than friends by writing "simple words," to them, and you should buy that Looper single and listen to it until you realize how natural a thing this is. To me Belle & Sebastian seems a band that cherishes the written word, and I think you're completely wrong about making friends without seeing them or hearing their voice. In fact, I believe that instead of those with cyberfriends being somehow socially inept in some way, that it is really the other way 'round. People like Carmen are, in my opinion, the only ones who are actually socially inept, because they are incapable of meeting friends outside of the traditional realm. I feel very sorry for you, Carmen, that your view of the world is so close-set that you deny yourself the friendship of so many. For my part, I feel that many of the friends I made through the internet are as good of friends as the ones I met off of it, and sometimes better. I hope my expressing these opinions doesn't offend anyone, but being stigmatized makes me feisty. I am now pausing to see if I should really send this, but I still feel like I'm not making a huge mistake. Right, on to the rest of the message... *steps down from his soapbox* I did manage to meet someone outside of the internet who had heard of B&S last night. I was printing some things, when the fellow next to me put Arab Strap in the stereo (the band, not the album). He apparently doesn't like B&S after a couple listens of TWITCHYBATS, but I recommended that he give them more of a chance, as I did, and look where it got me. I was also very impressed today with Corporea's lovely interpretation of "Me & the Major." I had considered some of the themes, but I never heard it put so eloquently. *applauds* Also notable was Nanettee's (is that like a Manatee? =) eloquent defense (or defence) of "virtual cyberfriends." Hehe, just that phrase is really amusing to me. Like some kind of 90's buzzword. Well, this post has gotten long enough. And I'm expecting my friend Marge to call me soon, and we're going for coffee, and SHE DOESN'T EVEN USE THE INTERNET!! OH MY GOD!!! Lithographing and Loving ;) /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 02:07:49 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 18:07:49 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Why video boots are illegal & other sorrid topix Message-ID: <009401be1298$3ef62400$c59ccdcf@brier> Seems to me that the reasons bootlegging videos could be wrong are: 1. The band (or Jeepster probably) paid money to make them, and why should a business pay to make something, then have it distributed for free? Just like albums, that would be ridiculous. 2. The band makes their money back by getting paid by MTV & other stations for the right to play them. If everyone had them on bootleg, no one would need to watch MTV to get them, so MTV wouldn't buy them, so the band wouldn't get anything for them. 3. Videos are copyrighted (of course, just like a movie or TV show) and the law is the law. Might seem unfair to some, but this is a business as well as an art form. Oh well. On a happier note: I was wearing my Stow shirt (for the fifteenth time) and someone FINALLY commented on it; saying: "hey, you got that from the web site! My friend showed me that!" Finally a Close Encounter, even tho it was a boy (I was hoping it would be a girl -- why is it never a girl? Why am I girl-crazy in the first place? Hair lips breasts eyes -- I do love gurls gurls gurls...) The guy only knew B&S a little bit, but it was the first contact of that sort I've ever had. Americans are slowly waking up to the beauty, I guess. Anyone else having problems with Frank Yang's strange "Security Warning" posts? Is he Secret Police? Glad you like the puffy stickers, Queen Bee. Put them to a smutty use. I just KNEW the new ep would be orange. I swear I did! I almost proposed a contest to see who could guess what color it would be, and whether it would feature a boy or a girl. My guess was to be "Orange / Girl" altho I see I am wrong (that is a boy, isn't it)? But when I went to the Jeepster site yesterday and up popped the cover of Tigermilk with "Preorder the new B&S now" above it, my heart skipped half a beet [sic] as I thought that T'milk was finally released again. But new stuff is better. I can't wait. Why do people keep calling Honey a "mrs."? He's Paul, a boy, non? I've been here a while but am still rather confused re: gender. Patriarch or matriarch? Enquiring minds want to know. But regardless, please heed his/her/its wisdom-filled posts. Finally... what happened to the B&S tribute tape? I haven't forgotten and you haven't forgotten; let's forget together someday These days, I remain, Brier +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 18 04:30:24 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 23:30:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: the baseball team of B&S, and the boy w/ the shaved head.. In-Reply-To: <009401be1298$3ef62400$c59ccdcf@brier> Message-ID: ok, so this weekend a friend of mine mentioned this great idea he had about t-rex slogans on a t-shirt, I don't want to mention the whole idea for distrust of stolen thoughts but kerri (azraell) and I are going to do it - it involves loads of fun, seltzer, andsilk screening. oh and mall madness (batteries included... ;) )so the deal is we are in NoHo/Amherst area of Mass (Except when I am in NJ or NY) and we are going to make tres lovely shirts. If anyone wants to help us make them or wants one let me know. Once we get the whole thing worked out we can show pix. the thing is that we are going to silk screen them ourselves because its fun and I like it and so the more people involved the cheaper the overhead will be. if you aren't close and want make one or get one of ours let me know. this is arts and crafts people we aren't going to steal their images or anything - and its not for profit (that's just in there so I don't get mail from anyone or anything threatening me for arts and crafts). anyway, so the other thing about the shirts is that they will all be somehow related to one another - more on that later tho - even tho I have figured out how. (its the ginger hair I imagine). these can also be in lieu of list shirts or what have you. secondly, david or katrina, glen robertson told me where to write to him and I don't remember he and stuart M. saved me from a life of living in the streets of boston and having to call up ex's to save me from the cold. can either of you let me know where to send something he asked me to make for him? (no it doesn't involve Semtex or food... just a little footie action and plastic). -ms. teri, her mom thinks she's cute http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "I may sit in a bar where the cocktails are but I really don't feel like talking I ride around and let the darkness fall 'cause I've got a sense of perfection and nothing else makes sense at all." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Tue Nov 17 16:04:47 1998 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 16:04:47 +0000 Subject: Sinister: I am curious orange Message-ID: <00127BB3.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> I didn't set a closing date for the poetry competition thinking that for days I'd no doubt have only my own pisspoor effort to contend with. I'm pleased to report, however, that I've had five entries so far and they are all classy as hell. Monday 23rd is therefore the last date for final entries. The rules: - send to me and not the list - one or all of the words orange, month, purple and silver must be rhymed - Belle and Sebastian must feature Charlotte +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Wed Nov 18 09:21:45 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:21:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: isobel shat in my ice trays Message-ID: <365291A9.6658@earthlink.net> hwy whatever happened to the "smutty belle and sebastian headline thing" contest? mick raped my grampa stuart david drank my pee chris in torrid love affair with 12 year old albino midget boy with a humpback, a wooden leg, and and a hook for a hand and, hey, people, how about shutting up about the whole list content thing, huh? i got more important wastes of time to read from this list than that. it's time to have an election. we must overthrow that fascist fuck, honey. the nerve of him sending us rules to follow and what we can and can't say. what is this? the fourth reich? i don't smell any burning flesh yet, but i feel the heat. so, i'm running for list commander. everyone who votes for me gets a coupon for a free moldy piece of pork and some flat pepsi with too much ice. guarding the ballot box, -brad (psssst...honey....it's a joke *wink* ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Wed Nov 18 11:41:03 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 03:41:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: "I Am the BullGod"!!!!!!!!!!! Message-ID: <008401be12e8$53438880$0c11020a@rebelstrange> i notice the smiths influence in a lot of places, for example "With a knife and a bike chain, lalala!!!" is about as morrissey as one can get. that said, b&s are no smiths clones, they are almost the perfect amalgam of velvets and smiths though. as to the person who attempted to insult snotty young girls, and shy cardiewearing geeks who are too quiet to have real flesh friends, and La Pastie girls everywhere, BOO to you!! i happen to be very proud of the fact that I am a pathetic shut-in with no cares but to write fantasies and listen to "the dulcet tones" of stuart and isobel and watch the leaves falling. and i shall defend my sisters and brethren online with the ferocity of an isobel-tiger. Geeks unite!! we do not take such words lightly! hunny says . > Send a cheery mail about B&S related smut instead or something, and your soul will be redeemed. .......so i just acquired the Magnet mag w/Richard's interview in it. Poor sod, he seems overwhelmed by the responsibility of taking up the slack from Stuart's "Wimpy Loner Mythos"-rumors, and he's trying his damndest to make the band out as a bunch of bad-asses who go around kicking heads in on teh soccer field, partying to da Wu-Tang Clan, and playing drunken rowdy games of Russian roulette with members of Arab Strap, wherein arab strap calls them "weird bastards" and Sarah and Izzy hog-pile them, club them with frozen lamb's hocks and rip out their molars with rusty pliers, of course all this happens before the meth-inspired bestiality orgy (dog on wheels, indeed!). I belive that's when Isobel and Stu got a little randy and the famous porn tapes were made, as distributed on the internet under various epithets. Who'd have thought she had.....oh, but you dont' want to hear what i was about to say....carry on, carry on. you know richard, you're not fooling us! of course this is what the life of Belle and Sebastian is really like: >>"It's a truly frosty morning, colder than a witches tit. Somewhere in this city i can imagine our little belle and sebastian chums all huddled up in a bed made for eight. With paddington bear on the bedspread. Who's turn is it to make breakfast for everyone this morning? Well it's Tuesday so it's martin and murdochs turn. But sarah wont get out of the bed cos it's too damn cold, and struan wont because he's got his morning stiffy. So I guess they'll have to stay there all day, or until one of them has to go for a wee-wee. " ...And dont' you just know Isobel is wearing her fuzzy tiger jammies....<3 with feet in them. >"Especially Stu M, who pops on screen for a total of 2 seconds and looks immaculate as ever. No shot of his arms of sex sadly though. My favorite body part is the arm. Around the elbow area. Boys' arms look nicer than girls' arms. Boys' arms that look like Stuart's, that is. :)" ...I usually like girls' arms much better, but stuart has nice arms for a boy. and as for the video, he may be in it for a split of a lamb's shake(sic) but he looks lovely enough i'm sure to force even a b&s stranger to shout, upon his appearance: "Who the HELL is that Glorious Bastard, with such a noble countenance and wistful gleam in his eye???" If Stuart is lurking, hi stuart, and thank you for the shiny apple =) Mark c says, I've just checked out Lesley's lovely photeys, and I can see quite why Miller Minor is quite so smitten - that tiger cap really does do it for ms Campbell, n'est-ce pas? *GRRRrrrowRRR!!* amen to that. announcement==my new photos are all up, and i'm working on the shrine to Isobel. anyone who wants to join the Isobel Campbell (unofficial) Cutie Coalition and aid in my ministry, can do so with my eternal regards. any isobel information or links that you have would be appreciated =) if in fact, any others exist. WeeJay says:" I went around visiting your websites yesterday and I just have to express my admiration for Lesley J. Miller's effort. Go have a look at it people! Especially the mock-up teen mag which unfortunately is just a front cover and doesn't really have isobel's style tips inside. " ...........................thanks weejay!! :( yeah if only it did have isobel's style tips, i need some myself....maybe i can bug her for a Frumpy mag exclusive interview for all the teenage population. (how bout it Isobel???) "They stole this music from black people.....well, the black people were gonna throw it away anyway." lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Wed Nov 18 09:58:19 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:58:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: ooh, watch it In-Reply-To: <199811171457010760.002996CD@204.96.36.40> Message-ID: People should get off Carmen's back. After all, suppressing her "opinions" would be doing what she is trying to do to us. To be honest, the more I listen to B&S , the more I pick up on brilliantly crafted little hidden "refs" in the so-called digressing conversations. And you're wrong about making a general assumption about cyper-friends. Admittedly, I think it's a bit sad when people get internet -boyfriends etc but if your writing is strong enough to cater for what is absent when communicating through email then, the other stuff doesn't matter. But really, I genuinely think she did mean it in a positive way and this may get out of hand (the bitchiness vibe it's giving off) if it continues. So lets make a pact never to squabble again, deal, listees ? oodles and oddles of huggies and kissies to all my email mates... dee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pgarnier at xxx.fr Wed Nov 18 10:27:39 1998 From: pgarnier at xxx.fr (Philippe GARNIER) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:27:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Little green apples Message-ID: hello sweet sinisterees, People sounds were nervous here... Why is that so ? Were there some rocks in your brownies ? So ... all you need is love la lala lala all you need is love la lala lala all you need is love, love, love is all you need ! I was listening to the session on radio scotland (we wish you a merry christmas...) and I really love the song chosen by lovely Isobel. This "Present for my friends" is called Little Green Apples but I can't understand the names of the man and women who sings. Glenn Campbell ? Can someone help me and tell me on which album I can find this song ? Thanks. (I hope the answer is not in the Faqs...) I love the photo on the new single. Is the colour really orange ? I mean, orange like an apple ? Belle And Sebastian written is large letters is great ! Avant d'ouvrir le gaz, elle pense à son canari... Before leaving, I have to tell you that my fish Honey goes very well. He is very kind towards his mates, though I think he wants to promote himself as the chief in the tank. I'm leaving now, because I have to make a photo of my arms. FrogsCheeseHugsAndKIsses Philippe, your alsacian cousin PS : is anyone collecting money to help wee morrissey ? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Wed Nov 18 10:24:19 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:24:19 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: sorry peeps Message-ID: Sorry to write twice in one day but I won't again for a while. The irony of the whole "Carmen saga" just hit me. She wrote in complaining of us htting topics that have no b&s content yet in doing so, she has sparked off a big debate...that has no b&s content. It's hilarious isn't it ? Oh the other thing is I might be doing a feature on "bus stories" so could I use some of the B&S ones ? Naturally I would cite ownership but is there any other objections ? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Wed Nov 18 11:02:38 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:02:38 +0000 Subject: Sinister: She and me In-Reply-To: <199811172041.UAA22656@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Someone was asking why yu couldn't use 'she and me' in a sentence. I think it's because the two words are different declensions (is that the word?). So you can say 'she and I' (as in 'she and I are both wearing cardigans') or 'her and me' (as in 'Stuart Murdoch gives both her and me palpitations'). Errr... dull post this, isn't it. Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 11:00:28 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:00:28 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Things Will Be Nice References: <009401be1298$3ef62400$c59ccdcf@brier> Message-ID: <3652A8CC.5CAC@seahouses.u-net.com> Brier 'Rose' Random wrote: > 1. The band (or Jeepster probably) paid money to make them, and why should a > business pay to make something, then have it distributed for free? Just > like albums, that would be ridiculous. The films are usually promotional items, for distribution to places like MTV so people see the band and go and buy their product. The idea being that they make money out of record (or whatever) sales. On the other hand some bands make films because they're FUN. I saw the Lazy Line Painter Jane video the other week for the first time and it's hilarious! Whether B&S made their films for this reason or promotional reasons I don't know. Maybe D&K could tell us. > 2. The band makes their money back by getting paid by MTV & other stations > for the right to play them. If everyone had them on bootleg, no one would > need to watch MTV to get them, so MTV wouldn't buy them, so the band > wouldn't get anything for them. See above. Not everyone CAN watch MTV. I'm not going to get to see this video, probably, unless someone lends me a tape of it, or I get told exactly when it's going to be on telly. I'm hardly out to defraud the band or record company just because I want to see a film of a band I love. If they did a load of promotional films for lots of songs and released them on video I daresay I'd buy it, now in that case they WOULD make money back from me. > 3. Videos are copyrighted (of course, just like a movie or TV show) and the > law is the law. I believe songs are also copyrighted, so why overlook cassette tape recordings of stuff? Videocassettes are just like audio ones but bigger, they both store information by polarisation of the magnetic bits stuck to the plastic. You can't turn a blind eye to one and not the other. It's an interesting argument, I suspect that if you were to go exactly by the law then it would ALL be illegal, but if you're going to lend someone the video for 'Wicked' or do a tape of Tigermilk for someone, just don't shout about it to everyone and no-one's going to mind. On a lighter note, aren't the Stereophonics SHITE !? JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 11:42:05 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:42:05 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Anastasia and Honey's bum Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2234A145@server1.HITEntertainment.com> I've never done an ink polaroid before, for any number of reasons (mostly to do with my inability to put anything either succinctly or poetically), but here's a couple for your delectation. 1. Just to annoy Anastasia... I want to share this one with you as it has more listees per sq cm than any of my other photos. It is a close up of Stasia, whose face is all wrinkled up with glee as she contemplates putting wee Beanz Geddes in her pocket. It's the first B&S gig at the Supper Club, and in the background you can see Brian, Matthew and Michele leaning against the balcony, It's lucky I'm taking the picture, as I'm feeling particularly shy at this point, and would probably be wishing I still had long hair I could hide behind. It's come out a bit bleached, as the flash is too powerful, but you can just about perceive the elation and anticipation hanging in the air, there, just to the left of Jonnykat, whose eyes are drooping as he stifles yet another cough, poor lamb. 2. Up honey's bum. ..it's dark in here... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tourajsig2 at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 12:21:15 1998 From: tourajsig2 at xxx.com (Michael Jones) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 04:21:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Tribulations Message-ID: <19981118122115.16576.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Hello playmates, Well, I'm not sure we should be pleased about this or not, but I guess it's an indication that a band have finally made it when they find themselves the subject of a tribute act. And, judging by the current issue of Time Out, Belle & Sebastian must have hit the Big Time with both fists, as not one, but THREE bands are currently treading the capital's boards, peddling their own brands of belansebbery. The Marimba & Leopard in East Dulwich is the venue next Tuesday for the London debut of Bella Sebestyen. Now, I remember this lot when they were claiming to be Cradley Heath's answer to The Krankies, so bandwagon-jumping of this order is no great surprise. Their gimmick, as if you need to be told, consists of a Bella Emberg lookalike, resplendent in silver pants and Felt T-shirt, performing the Murdoch songbook through a device that makes her sound like Marta Sebestyen. It's a lot less fun than it sounds. And the cod-reggae version of 'Seeing Other People' manages to be offensive on a number of levels. Making their own special contribution to Ruislip's annual 'Artz' festival (Conservative Assocation, 8:15, Monday evening) are Milking Of The TigerBoy. This enchanting five-piece hail from Osaka and embody the great B&S virtues of politeness and dainty footwear. Inevitably they run into trouble with too-literal translations, but 'Do I Dishonour My Family When I Withdraw My Succour ?' and 'Glorious Heroes Of The 15th Olympiad' are highlights of their gentle, meandering set. Perhaps the least imaginative outfit to be attach themselves to our favourite Glaswegian octet's collective coattails are The Tasmanian Belle And Sebastian (Germaine Greer Craft Centre, Maida Vale, Sunday). Their entire raison d'etre seems to be to re-create the Saturday night show at Manchester Town Hall last Xmas, right down to the fluffed intros and inter-song pauses. However, the accents are abominable and the trumpet-player is bald. One to avoid. Mike. _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 12:18:25 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 05:18:25 -0700 Subject: Sinister: That's the wonder of Cowdenbeath Message-ID: Hello Kiddies, Well, part two of "Belle and Sebastian - the unauthorised biography" was shown of Channel Four last night. Isobel was being a sleazy rock chick as per usual, and Stuart realised that the band were lacking in weird watermelon sounds, and promptly recruited Sarah. Other top moments were Stuart's dad singing along to his Hard Rockin' Karaoke CD, and the formidable and previously unheard Arab Strap tune "I Love Cowdenbeath" which has jumped to the top of my shopping list. On the Pop Subbuteo front I have gone along with Adrian's suggestion and filed down a late eighties era Jason Donovan in order to replace the decapitated Stuart M. The limbs don't quite have that Arms of Sex look, but with a coat of silver paint applied to the trousers hopefully no-one will notice. Only a week to go until the National Pop Subbuteo championships now, and I've been drawn against The Equals (featuring Eddy Grant) in the first round. As you may know there is an international Pop Subbuteo competition taking place in New York towards the end of the year. I am pleased to say that I have managed to get sponsorship from Nairn's Oatcakes and will be flying over to New York for about five days from the 11th of December. I understand from the most Magnetic of Megans that there may be a Sinister meet-up around then, so don't forget to post something to the Jeepster site folks. Unfortunately I will have to miss St Etienne on the monday night, as I will be busy doing battle with Soul Asylum at the time. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 18 13:49:34 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:49:34 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: hi lovies. my adorable friend just sent me a tape of tigermilk, not knowing that i already had a copy. so if anyone in the uk would like a copy i'll send it free of postage charge (though sexual favours will be accepted, of course) if you mail me privately with your address. blessings, archel x ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nobody can be uncheered with a balloon." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Wed Nov 18 13:55:10 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 08:55:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Why video boots are illegal & other sorrid topix References: <009401be1298$3ef62400$c59ccdcf@brier> Message-ID: <3652D1BE.A375A9E9@itl.ca> Brier Random wrote: > Anyone else having problems with Frank Yang's strange "Security Warning" > posts? Is he Secret Police? I'm actually a special agent working for Sebastian Bach from Skid Row. I'm scouting out music mailing lists to see what's hip and cool with the kids these days. You may be interested to know he's working on a new acoustic album, cheekily entitled "Belle & Sebastian Bach". The first single will be "18 and Life To Go, La La La". Watch for it, it'll be huge. Really, my stupid mail program at work automatically digitally signs each mail I send out. It's not as annoying the electronic tag they've embedded in my ear. I keep trying to explain to them that I'm not a migrating waterfowl, but they refuse to listen. I shall endeavour to turn off the digital sig from now on. -- Frank Yang Imperial Tobacco Ltd. "Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding 'you're causing a scene.'" In my CD player: Uncle Tupelo - March 16-20, 1992 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Wed Nov 18 14:20:35 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:20:35 -0000 Subject: Sinister: She, me, I, you, everybody, everybody. Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E3C1@NCMSERVER> I suppose I'd better start off with a little Nell and Sir Bar Stein content, since I haven't been on that thread for, ooh, two months or so, and the wibble vultures have been circling of late. My question to you is this: (And by you I mean those of you who hail from the green, hilly place known as Scotland) My girlfriend (and me voting for list crushes too, the shame...) hails from Ayr, and she loves B&S almost as much as I do, but she seems to have a distinct advantage in that much as I find the music evocative of emotions, colours and feelings, she feels a kind of small-town Scottishness about it that hits home. Is this a part of the overall emotion B&S inspire that I am doomed eternally to miss? And now a grammar lesson. The whole she and me thing strikes me as one of the pathetic attempts by grammarians to enforce illogical rules onto a perfectly decent and flexible language (cf split infinitives, split away people - no-one can lock you up for it). The idea is that if you take either she or I away, the sentence should still read grammatically. Of course if you were to say she gave it to me (oo-er) then that would be fine (oo-er). She does not give it to I, nor do I give it to she, I give it to her... ...which is all fantastically dull, but important if you want to successfully get on in life (apparently). Did you know (don't you just hate it when people say that, and when they rush up to you saying guess what, guess what?) that Shakespeare used around 17,000 words in all his plays, and that about one tenth of them he made up himself? Presumably we're talking about adding endings, as opposed to say, inventing a whole word like fgtho'd (to rhyme with Orange), but still, I give the man a lot of respect for that. In fact it inspires me to enter this fine and dandy rhyming verse competition. I have a good knowledge of rhymes, as I knew someone called Gabriel Cheng, whom I nicknamed Table Leg on the basis that it rhymes with his name. It does you know. Try harder. Believe. Neil Xx If you only listen to one song today, make it "Monument for a dead century" by loveable scouse mad-indies the Boo Radleys. Altogether now, "nobody lives here any more...We're building a monument, for a dead century". +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kschaffe at xxx.Edu Wed Nov 18 15:26:10 1998 From: kschaffe at xxx.Edu (Schaffenberger) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:26:10 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: She, me, I, you, everybody, everybody. In-Reply-To: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E3C1@NCMSERVER> Message-ID: Neil writes: > > Did you know (don't you just hate it when people say that, and when they > rush up to you saying guess what, guess what?) that Shakespeare used around > 17,000 words in all his plays, and that about one tenth of them he made up > himself? Presumably we're talking about adding endings, as opposed to say, > inventing a whole word like fgtho'd (to rhyme with Orange), but still, I > give the man a lot of respect for that. In fact it inspires me to enter > this fine and dandy rhyming verse competition. I have a good knowledge of > rhymes, as I knew someone called Gabriel Cheng, whom I nicknamed Table Leg > on the basis that it rhymes with his name. It does you know. Try harder. > Believe. Actually, I'm a linguistics minor, and this stuff fascinates me (as does she and me, but we'll save that for another grammar lesson). However, it's a common fallacy that Shakespeare made up 10% of his written vocabulary. Most scholars of the subject would suggest that nearly all of the words he used were already in use. He, however, was the first to commit them to print. Makes sense, considering that some of the people using these words were not of a literate class. Where it gets really interesting is that certain words and expressions correspond to the various classes represented by characters in his plays. (See also Faulkner and Twain, who utilize this same accuracy in dialect and regional expression.) So, you're partially right, and 99.9% of the population would probably assert that WS did indeed make up 10% of his vocabulary. However, since I have an exam coming up on this subject, I thought I'd share my two pence. Belle and Seb content? I can't think of any words in their songs that rhyme with orange. But I like it when I mishear "be honest" as "be us" in Get Me Away, I'm Dying. Luff, Kristen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 18 15:35:53 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:35:53 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: List Crush vote results!!!!!!!!! In-Reply-To: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E3C1@NCMSERVER> Message-ID: As promised, here are the final results. I promise I didn't make any of the votes up. I may have messed some up, but never mind; some mistakes from last time have been corrected, and the rest are at least definitively wrong now. People who did get votes: it's over to you. Find out who voted for you and get loving. And don't forget to tell me when you do - I love a good gossip. People who didn't get votes: better luck next time. I didn't get any last time, I know how you feel. You'll just have to post more smut from now on to get noticed. Anyway, enough rambling I hear you all cry, tell us the results! Well I don't think anyone can argue with the winner, a thoroughly deserved victory... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- 15 votes: HONEY PAUL MITCHELL 11 votes: Peter Miller Fluffy Sarah 10 votes: Me! 9 votes: Magnetic Megan Lehar 8 votes: Stevie Trousers 6 votes: Chris Leonard 5 votes: Genevieve Wesley 4 votes: FunkySeb Keith Watson Joss Moorkens Erin Lewis Katrina House 3 votes: Philippe Corpora Arenacea Mick McMick Oon Brad Andrew (Seymour) Nicol Charlotte Hall Tara Widmer Tag Linda Kerr Martin Horsfield Archel Playforth Lesley J Miller Courtney Owen Madame Cholet 2 votes: Reid Dossinger; Christa Chaffinch; Adrian Evans; Pam Berry; Jessicaxo; Lady Penelope; Sarah Wheeler; Laurel Girvan; Michele Waggner; Brian Winters; Beth Arzy; Sandra Volaric; Claire Timmins; Elisabeth (Petula); Calumn Shearer; Matthew Hintz; Henry Thomas; St Lucy 1 vote: David Kitchen; Jake Reichart; Mark Casarotto; Susannah; Nick Dastoor; Jessica Murphy; Liz Daplyn; Joao Henrique Horst; Kevan Cooke; Matthew Crooker; Becka; John Warrender; Xavier; Gary Done; Vicky Parkinson; Monaz; Jennifer Phillips-Bacher; Anastasia Signoretta; Minnie Riperton; Mike Jones; Tim Hopkins; The Duke Of Haringey; Jake (aka Kenny); Ed Mason; Nick Marino; Andrew Dean; Kristen Shaffenberger; Sandra Duric; John Murtagh; Matthew Kelly; Kelly Ryan; Jonny Kat; Julie Smith; Ethan Sincoff; r.h.; Janine Queen Bee; Lorelei Tremelor; Emma Wilton; Neil Dewhurst; Sarah Hall; John Monroe; Marco 7; Julia Brown; Nicola Stip; Chloe Sevigny; The French Girl on John Warrender's Part Invitation; Mystery Date; The Entire Shalala List; Teddy Pendergrass; and The Entire Sinister List. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- So there you have it. Bonus prize for anyone who manages to do something smutty (and tell us about it!) with everyone in the Top 5. Oh go on, you know you want to. You may now start the cat fight... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 18 15:47:27 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azrael) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:47:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: smut Message-ID: okay, so i know the "music to have sex to" thread is long dead, but i thought i'd add a bit to it, anyway. see, up until very recently i didn't have a boyfriend. well, i was severely single for about 2 years, so i was hardly qualified to take part in that little thread, especially considering that i can barely remember my sexual experiences past 2 years ago. *sigh* anyhoo, as far as music to have sex to goes, i wouldn't reccommend "dog on wheels." the boyfriend and i tried it out last night and did nothing for either of us. in fact, i think it kind of distracted me. i kept singing along. however, we've had a lot if luck with slint's "spiderland." mmmmmmmmmmmm. okay. so there's your smut. hope you're happy. -kerry "if only i could escape and leave a dummy in my place." -bernard butler, "i'm tired." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Wed Nov 18 15:47:22 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:47:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: List Crush vote results!!!!!!!!! References: Message-ID: <3652EC0A.270776CB@itl.ca> I'm going to allow that "Entire Sinister Mailing List" vote stroke my ego for now. Unless that was my vote, in which case I now feel somewhat dirty... I am really going to have to try an up the smut quotient of my posts, I guess. Hmm. -- Frank Yang "Allow myself to introduce... myself. My name is Richie Cunningham." In my CD player: Elvis Costello & The Attractions - Get Happy! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 18 16:36:04 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 11:36:04 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Crushes, get 'em while they're H!O!T! (includes: LLPJ's hue, B&S on 120) Message-ID: <3652F774.E72963C0@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> *Waves Hello to the list* Don't you all think their should be international news coverage of the listcrush tally? Like Bernard Shaw and Kitty Pilgrim describing how such and such had really campaigned hard for their votes, or that Saint "the Body" Lucy was a big surprise at 2 votes, and it was entirely because of all the young people voting. There were several oddities, though. For instance, Mystery Date (please peruse Paul's Picture Pages for pertinent photographs) should have received 5 votes! I guess that's okay, since Stuart probably didn't know who she was, and couldn't add one more vote to her four. Also, Madame Cholet received 3 votes, and Beth Arzy received two. I wonder if Beth's personality has split, or maybe just that no one knew she was the same gal. So there's two more people with 5 votes. I'd also like to point out that the #1 Crush (I think Honey should put it in his sig) couldn't have gone to a nicer, smuttier listmummy. Also, I had to promise not to call Honey "Hunny" ever again. Sorry, folks. It wasn't handed down by Honey himself of course, but one of those many 2-voters. You see, I can claim superiority over such folk due to the fact that I received a whopping three votes! Wa-hey ;) Thank you to the two mystery voters, and thank you to the one I knew about. Speaking of that, Magnetic Megan Lehar reigns the US, nay, the North American continent with 9 votes! *cheers* The closest being a distant 4 votes away. I wonder if it would have affected her vote tally if I'd sent that scan of those photostickers in to H(u)on(n)ey. Maybe I ought to keep it to myself, to help her out in future elections. Also, nice to see the Sha-La-La list got a vote. We need some more girls. There's too many anorak-wearing boys and not enough equally-clad girls. Also, Mark Iles writes: > Someone was asking why yu couldn't use 'she and me' in a sentence. > I think it's because the two words are different declensions (is that > the word?). So you can say 'she and I' (as in 'she and I are both > wearing cardigans') or 'her and me' (as in 'Stuart Murdoch gives both > her and me palpitations'). Errr... dull post this, isn't it. Haha, I think someone should come up with a grammatical primer, all of whose examples relate somehow to this list or to Belle et Sebastian. Example: Incorrect: He warm the cockles of my heart. Correct: He warms the cockles of my heart. Also, fellow 3-voted listee Lesley Jo (back on her own) requests for members to join her in the Isobel Campbell Cutie Coalition. I wonder if she realizes that cutie is the noun to the adjective twee. Thus, if you are twee, you are a cutie. Thus I don't think this would do, as B&S don't seem to encourage any twee comparisons. Maybe if you bastardized cutie into cutey. Also, to settle the color debate, my Pantone Color Formula Guide reports that LLPJ is indeed "Rhodamine Red," a color which I'd never heard of before. Seems a shame that "Rhoda" isn't on the EP now, doesn't it? So now we have the pale blue one, the red one, the yellow one, the Rhodamine Red one, the silver one, the green one, and the orange one. So whoever it was who suggested that both Sinister et LLPJ were both red was right. Also, I enjoyed sunday's showing of "Is It Wicker Not to Chair," and have it on tape now. Er...audio tape, I mean. I plan on listening to it at every opportunity, for MTV US doesn't play B&S videos often. The thing where that one band ("Fuel," was it?) were on a stage and everyone broke the stage into little bits reminds me of a terribly punk rawk moment from my younger years as a teenager. I used to go to one of those hole-in-the-wall all-ages clubs where 8 bands play for $3. At one of the shows, my friend Dusty jumped so frantically when singing with his band "Royal Fudge & Cake" that the stage collapsed! My friend Aaron (who now is a very big B&S fan, I'm told, guess that mixtape did it after all) recovered a piece of the stage and promptly got lots of people who were there to sign it, including myself. I should see if he still has that endearing chunk of wood someday... Neither chunky nor wooden, /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 15:32:26 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 10:32:26 EST Subject: Sinister: happiness is a warm crumpet Message-ID: good morning, good midday, good evening lovely listees! hi there...i feel like i haven't posted in quite some time, though i probably wrote something yesterday and just don't remember posting it. i'm quite scatterbrained lately. anyhow, nothing much new to report...i fell asleep on the bus *again* this morning. oh, and i cut my hair off and i'm wearing my 'study at stow' t-shirt under a grey cardie at work today and people keep trying to read what my shirt says while at the same time trying to talk to me, it's very cute. so, some things: 1) cyberfriends/cyberreality: i studied postmodernism extensively (don't worry though, i'm not getting into that!) and cyberreality a bit in college, so i have many opinions on this topic (just ask mark c.). basically, what i want to tell all of you is, as we move into the 21st century, new technologies (oh dear it sounds like i'm writing an essay) will allow us more and more to break away from 'traditional' ways of doing things, and therefore will make new, not necessarily less valid, 'realities' exist in our lives. some people (including myself) have theories that this 'physical' reality, the one we experience with our bodies, our 'physical' identity or what have you, is only another 'version' of 'reality'...cyberrealities (you all know, as we have created a 'virtual community' right here in 'sinsterworld') do exist and just because they aren't 'physical' doesn't mean they are less valid. i know this is a difficult concept to swallow, but i really feel that this is the way things are progressing. in essence, this progression allows us to form 'relationships' that might never manifest in the physical, but can still be as meaningful as the ones we form in 'physical' reality. now, i'm still not convinced that these relationships are as *satisfying* as the ones formed in 'physical' reality, but then again some of you may beg to differ...sometimes i wonder if in years we will not need our 'physical' selves at all...? in any case, i think we've established, making friends in cyberreality is just as legitimate as making friends in 'physical' reality. we're not sad, really! :) a concept like this is difficult for my parents to understand (they think it's creepy) but then again they are not part of this computer generation. this stuff will be second nature to our kids. wow, that was a bit wanky. anyhow... 2) 'velvet goldmine' (for the non-twee among us): PHWOAR! rather, jonathan rhys meyers = PHWOAR!!! with pink hearts and glitter stars and lots of exclamation points. the film wasn't too awful either, if you take it for what it is. though (smut content) i was disappointed that the only naked male we see is ewan mcgregor, whose goods we've already been allowed to peek at in 'trainspotting.' :( now, my real question: is that fab soundtrack available in the states? 3) tiswas in nyc: please come to dance. every saturday night at don hill's. please, the place needs some adorable people, and of course i'm calling on you. 4) list crush: disappointed to see i still hold only one vote. *sigh* well, whoever you are, cheers... and now, for some belle and sebastian content, more or less... 5) what this list is about: i mean, that's for each of us to decide individually, and if what goes on makes you happy, then yay happiness joy. personally, i adore our virtual community, i like being part of a list about belle and sebastian *fans* as well as belle and sebastian themselves, because i think we're all pretty special, don't you? 6) seymour stein: the real man, not the song. i saw him on some vh-1 special, 'before they were famous' or something like that. he was talking about how he discovered *madonna*. oh dear. he is the prototypical 'label exec' and i just...well, i just can't imagine what he and b&s talked about over dinner... 7) 'is it wicked not to care?' video: i didn't see it. :( 8) 'modern rock song' ep: this is a 'david and katrina question' (tm), perhaps...is the ep available in the states *now*? you've probably answered this already and i should just go look in the archives and apologies apologies. 9) mark's ink polaroid of me: cheers luv! that polaroid is all true, it really happened, and it was a really lovely moment. but what was that bit about being 'up honey's bum' all about? 10) 'physical' reality crushes (this *is* related to b&s, sort of): i met this, this...*embodiment* of physical perfection complete with tongue piercing this past weekend, and now he's a bit glam rock, yet when i asked him if he likes belle and sebastian he replied, 'well i think it's good music to listen to when you're going to sleep...' oh dear...should i pursue this relationship? er, right. enough from me. you win the prize if you reached the end of this message. kisses, stasia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 16:47:23 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:47:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: November gurls Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2234A150@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Brier's post made me sit up and take notice... If people want to learn more about the state of the tribute tape, get in touch with its compiler Jan Thorneus [bajsjan at yahoo.com] for info. Myself and a couple of other listees (who will remain nameless to spare them from unfortunate association with me) are doing Like Dylan in the Movies. I didn't realise before that it has a really complex keyboardy bit in the middle. Um. Also Brier, it's admirable to see that you go for girls with hair (sic) lips. You'd like Kristen then! (*NB this is a funny joke* - see her recent letters for explanation. Oh dear)... But yes, gurls are pretty fab (and one in particular). Here's to gurls!! Chin chin!! Blondin xxx p.s. Peter Miller is 11 times more desirable than me. Yup, sounds about right :)...No doubt the right man came out on top, though. Three cheers for Hunny, and may he take full advantage of the Droit de Seigneur automatically awarded as a result of the poll. Lucky bastard. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Chi.M.Lee at xxx.gov Wed Nov 18 17:19:00 1998 From: Chi.M.Lee at xxx.gov (Chi.M.Lee at xxx.gov) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 12:19:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Oops, I didn't get to vote! Message-ID: Hello all, Sorry I don't post often. It's just that every four months or so, I usually go away for two weeks. Whenever I get back there's 700 e-mails waiting for me, and I try to read every one. So I'll make this one short and sweet. I know this is late but I'll say it to everyone: KATRINA IS MY LIST CRUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! She is so informative and I always go to her postings first. Hey Katrina, Are there any job openings at Jeepster? I would gladly sweep the floors and clean the toilets if that's the only thing available. To Kin Woo, I'm sorry I haven't replied to you sooner. I've listened to Mercury Rev's Deserter's Songs a few more times and I do like it very much. Holes and Goddess on a Hiway are great songs. However, that bowed saw has got to go. It is such an annoying instrument (my most humble apologies to all you bowed saw musicians out there). Lastly, I'll keep a lookout for other One Dove stuff. That's about it. Hope I haven't bored anyone. Chi M. Lee +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 17:44:22 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 09:44:22 PST Subject: Sinister: dirk Message-ID: <19981118174423.17928.qmail@hotmail.com> look, i greatly appreciate the one vote i got(and i'm still wandering how my mom knew i was on this list, yeah she wants me, it's a southern thing.) but as for the rest of you, a while back i told you my name was *dirk*....am i gonna have to get graphic and send in photos. or do you people just not get it? i mean i at least thought i'd get *13* votes. well, who knows mabye some of you will wise up next time around. i have to be on my way now. the movie diry work was released on video today w/ norm mcdonald and i'm in the mood to laugh so hard that i piss my pants. oh yeah, i took the advice of you all and rented *niagra niagra*, you people are good, never do me wrong. thanks. robbie in my c.d. player: the rough and raw sounds of ron jerremy. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mike at xxx.uk Wed Nov 18 18:16:41 1998 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:16:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: Little green apples In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Little Green Apples, was recorded as a duet by Glen Campbell and Bobby Gentry, on an LP (as far as I can recall) called "Glen Campbell and Bobby Gentry". There was a male vocal only version, popular in my parents day, by Leapie Lee (great name!). Its a bit of a country standard, and most of the greats have had a crack at it at some time. Glen and Bobby is the best by far, and the LP is fantastic. Mike ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit the TRAUMATONE/Great Northern Electrics/Bacchanalian Revel homepage: http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Nov 18 14:41:04 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:41:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Message-ID: <3652DC80.1C58291D@jeepster.co.uk> hello ... cut to the point, i know someone who wants to sell an original vinyl copy in mint condition. if you are willing to pay at least £150.00 (one hundred and fifty pounds) then please e-mail me and i will put you in contact with the person selling the record. cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 17:22:25 1998 From: stray4f at xxx.com (3) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 13:22:25 -0400 Subject: Sinister: I am curious orange Message-ID: <199811181825.NAA93452@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> No one seems to have mentioned yet that Jad Fair of Half Japanese managed to convincingly rhyme orange" with "door hinge" in a song years ago.......Still, I would kill for a rhyme for silver (hey, wait a minute..........) ---------- >From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) > I didn't set a closing date for the poetry competition thinking that > for days I'd no doubt have only my own pisspoor effort to contend > with. I'm pleased to report, however, that I've had five entries so > far and they are all classy as hell. > > Monday 23rd is therefore the last date for final entries. > > The rules: > > - send to me and not the list > - one or all of the words orange, month, purple and silver must be > rhymed > - Belle and Sebastian must feature > > Charlotte +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chris.jones at xxx.uk Wed Nov 18 18:43:12 1998 From: chris.jones at xxx.uk (Chris Jones) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:43:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Cheese vs. Giraffe Message-ID: <199811181844.SAA27746@freebsd.saqnet.co.uk> chris.jones at saqnet.co.uk http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/chris.htm http://www.saqnet.co.uk/users/saxtead/tiger/ Well, cheese wins hands down. Chris Jones. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From J_Fogel at xxx.EDU Thu Nov 19 08:09:35 1998 From: J_Fogel at xxx.EDU (jess) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:09:35 -0600 Subject: Sinister: boring... Message-ID: <3653D23F.10502061@emerson.edu> hey people, Just a quick question for u guys.... there is an acoustic cover version of the pet shop boys 'being boring', does anybody know what i'm talking about? i know its a woman singing, (but i got no idea who she is) i heard it twice on the radio- its absolutely beautiful!. i would appreciate some information (if possible), because i really fell in love with that tune...if no one can help, then thanks any way for your attention. have a nice day, j. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Nov 18 19:54:46 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:54:46 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Backshots, Dobbers and Donkey Pants! Message-ID: <01be132d$4bcc7860$LocalHost@itjfvkli> As the festive season is a mere stoned throw away, I thought I'd be the first to ask a question that we're all familiar with at this time of year - What annuals are you getting? I'm hoping for WARLORD and CUB SCOUTS' DINKLES. I was reminded of annuals by a strange turn of affairs in the record industry. I've noticed that more and more "box sets" are in fact annual sets, in so far as they open up like a book, and the cover is made of the same stuff annuals are made out of. Pop groups used to have annuals in the seventies, groups like The Osmonds and The Bay City Rollers. Belle and Sebastian could revive this great tradition. Hop to it, Jeepster! I'd be more than happy to write it for a moderately huge sum of money. I think Carmen will eventually go on to become the darling of British athletics, as my Dad used to say about Zola Budd. I do feel that Carmen's original cry in the wilderness contained more than a grain of truth. Perhaps we should modify our technique. Instead of counting to ten, we could count to twelve, and instead of thinking of Sir Cliff, we could think about plain old Cliff in the seventies, enjoying a nude romp with tennis ace Sue Barker in a barn somewhere, as reported in the super soaraway Sun, way back when. That way, we will get less "thoughtless" posts and a damn sight more smut. At the same time, please feel free to have the odd slanging match. I don't bother reading them anymore, but I do so enjoy Paul's pitch-perfect impersonation of Mister Barraclough from "Porridge". By the way, I also have problems with Frank Yang's weird coded messages. Fortunately someone quoted one the other day, enabling me to nick a great idea. Night night Mister Barraclough, night night Fletch. Lenny Godber In my CD player: CD 1 of the Booker T and the MGs annual set . CD 3 features Boz Scaggs. Sounds like something you have to go to the vet with. Have Splat and Pish had their Boz Scaggs jabs yet? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Wed Nov 18 20:14:03 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:14:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Backshots, Dobbers and Donkey Pants! References: <01be132d$4bcc7860$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <36532A8A.5AF170A5@itl.ca> > By the way, I also have problems with Frank Yang's weird coded > messages. Fortunately someone quoted one the other day, enabling me to > nick a great idea. I have no idea how those weird codes are coming through - I imagine it's a different experience for everyone depending on what mail program you're using. However, I refuse to take responsibility for any felonies conducted whilst under the influence of my digital signatures. You burn down a department store, you're on your own. What great idea? I find the notion of anyone getting a great idea out of anything I'm associated with disturbing, I haven't had a good idea since 1987, let alone a great one. B&S content - I'm lending both IYFS and TBWTAS to a friend of a friend whom I have a crush on. How's that for devotion? I just hope I get them back eventually.. -- Frank Yang "Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'sir' without adding 'you're causing a scene.'" In my CD player: Sarah Slean - Universe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sabin_o at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 20:42:52 1998 From: sabin_o at xxx.com (S. M. O.) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:42:52 GMT Subject: Sinister: Monica Queen Message-ID: <19981118204252.736.qmail@hotmail.com> >Excuse my ignorance, but who is Monica Queen? ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Wed Nov 18 22:36:03 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 14:36:03 -0800 Subject: Sinister: ink polaroid mad libs Message-ID: <001301be1343$d3e52920$3c11020a@rebelstrange> as mick mentioned, yes cutie could be a problem, i only used it for now cos it sounded alliterative, but i dont' have an official name for the coalition as yet, so if anyone has a better idea, submit it to me. although i will not budge on the statement that Isobel is indeed a cutey, twee or not......irrespective of secondary meaningings. (sic) i demand the people who voted for me rise up and tell me. i promise i won't embarrass you publicly by the admittance. ah never mind. no one would fess up to that.... i'd like to propose an activity of Ink Polaroid Madlibs. i have one to start off with. thank Jess for coming upwith the idea. send me privately your words and i'll post the best one(s). i think it will be fun. please humor me in my childishness and send in words. *geographical location *liquid *derogatory epithet *emotion *animal *verb *adjective *weapon *plural body part *a deity *emotion *kitchen appliance ***************************** send in your words from the list and let's have some fun! thank you paul, for making us laff about love again. t hose old posts had me doubled up in hilarious pain. and for the bill and sebastian tribute bands, oh yes please humor me a little girl lesley jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Nov 18 21:00:39 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:00:39 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Frank Yang Dang Doodle Message-ID: <01be1336$7f2d75c0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Frank, your messages are coming through fine now, I'm afraid I jumped the gun a bit. The great idea was to write down what's in my CD player. Also, I forgot to mention in my earlier message that I changed a car wheel today, all by myself, with no help whatsoever. I am justifiably proud of this achievement, and will grow a moustache in its honour. I bet no one on the Sha-La- La list can change a car wheel. Glad to see that Fluffy and I are the Torville and Dean of List Crushes. Sod off, Paul. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Wed Nov 18 20:32:44 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:32:44 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Monica Queen Message-ID: <01be1332$98a9a5e0$0100007f@localhost> SMO (what does it mean ?) wrote: >>Excuse my ignorance, but who is Monica Queen? The girl who ruined a lovely Belle and Sebastian's song. SAEG escossia at electus.com.br +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 21:38:23 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:38:23 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: They're taking it out on us In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Heather Marie Propes wrote: > What is the general interpretation of this line: > > "All the others did drugs > they're taking it out on us" A couple of possibilities: a) Narrator says: They all did. They survived (by and large). Why are they making it such a big deal for us? b) From "Photo Jenny": "They got the drugs I could use but then I don't need any". Except I think he sings "want". So you can take it either way. That is, the narrator has some already. Or the narrator has no interest. Regarding "The State I am In", I have not seen anyone raise the possibility that the narrator has an interest in, shall we say, the younger generation. I don't think these songs have any one, correct interpretation. --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkolmar at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 22:25:01 1998 From: mkolmar at xxx.com (Mark Kolmar) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:25:01 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: I like my "virtual cyberfriends," thank you very much In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 17 Nov 1998 Nanettee at aol.com wrote: > What bothered me was the comment about "who needs virtual cyberfriends." I've > met a lot of wonderful people over the Internet, and so have many of my > friends. Does this mean that "I can't make friends with living, breathing > people in the flesh"? No, it doesn't. I'm a perfectly well-adjusted human > being (albeit a bit shy). I find that even though I am communicating with more people than ever, this is a two-sided issue. On one hand, how else would I have active corresponce with people from Sweden, Russia, Australia, Germany, Chile, England, Scotland, and the Netherlands? On the other hand, I have met some local people face-to-face after trading email, after meeting on mailing lists. But...since we are used to email, and it is so easy to dash off a note about "Hey Mark whaddayathinka...", I know we speak on the phone less, and see each other face-to-face less often. Now, meeting fellow B&S fans: I thought the show in Chicago might be a good occasion to meet some people. The list meet-up was a total bust. I could not find anyone. The venue was crowded enough that you could really only talk to the people you landed near. First I found myself standing next to a gal who had a bit of a Catholic schoolgirl thing happening fashionwise. She was not unfriendly, but every attempt to start a conversation would only elicit a one-sentence response. I couldn't determine if she was reacting out of lack of interest, lack of much to say, or from the inhibitions of shyness. After Momus finished, I decided I didn't care. Through a Bugs Bunny-like "pardon-me-excuse-me- pardon-me-excuse-me..." I forced myself closer to the stage. I landed next to a petite blond who had more to say. She said I looked like I must be someone important. Lots of eye contact and all the things which at minimum border on flirtation. After the show I floated the idea of meeting up for a bite to eat or something (as opposed to asking outright), whereupon she waved "bye-bye" and left with her boyfriend (hadn't noticed him earlier). It's a big boxing match out there, and I am always wide open for a flurry of blows to the kidney and a right hook knockout punch. I've got the cauliflower ears to prove it too. But try to find a trainer! Ha! A big truck from a furniture rental company is blocking my afternoon sunshine. Soundtrack: Merzbow, _Pornoise 1KG_ "UFO Versus British Army". --Mark __ Burning Rome : SENSELESS CD on Mindfield Records MindCD03 Cathartium 14 > Distributed by Dutch East India Trading, Com Four, and Carrot Top < < http://www.xnet.com/~mkolmar/BurningRome > < MP3 & RealAudio tracks > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 22:26:53 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:26:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: TOTTYBUM Message-ID: <199811181726_MC2-60BE-34B@compuserve.com> Hi All David Moore Chelmsford, UK http://www.bignob.com./lookatme/ego/I.shtml But I am the archer the lover of laughter and mine is the arrowed flight. I am the archer and my eyes yearn after the unsullied sight. Robin Williamson, The Eyes Of Fate, 1967 next: the three previous messages in the thread, entirely unedited then: scroll down for 3 pages of html bollocks :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 22:26:53 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:26:53 -0500 Subject: Sinister: TOTTYBUM Message-ID: <199811181726_MC2-60BE-34B@compuserve.com> Hi All David Moore Chelmsford, UK http://www.bignob.com./lookatme/ego/I.shtml But I am the archer the lover of laughter and mine is the arrowed flight. I am the archer and my eyes yearn after the unsullied sight. Robin Williamson, The Eyes Of Fate, 1967 next: the three previous messages in the thread, entirely unedited then: scroll down for 3 pages of html bollocks :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Michael.Barrett at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 22:20:30 1998 From: Michael.Barrett at xxx.com (Michael) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 22:20:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nope, can't think of one. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001be1341$a6b62730$442fc22b@bond> Peter said >Also, I forgot to mention in my earlier >message that I changed a car wheel >today, all by myself, with no help whatsoever. >I am justifiably proud of this achievement, >and will grow a moustache in its honour. I did this just a few weeks ago, and it does make you feel like a real man. The temptation for me to grow a handle-bar moustache was exceptionally strong, especially as I had an old MG. What o, old chap. archel x offered >free of postage charge sexual favours >will be accepted, of course if you mail >me privately with your address. Ummm...I already have tigermilk, but there must be something else I can 'buy' off you? Anything? (Admittedly I can't afford that much...) Neil waffled on about >She feels a kind of small-town >Scottishness about it that hits home. So I'll waffle a bit as well. I must admit that some of the songs, especially on the eps, do make me feel homesick occasionally. For Glasgow, that is, not Ayr. There is definitely something west-end-of-Glasgow about a lot of the songs. Maybe its just the poncy accents on I Could be Dreaming & Century of Elvis. Either way I can't wait to go home for Christmas. Shakespeare - I read somewhere that he, or some bloke around at the same time, considered spelling to be a creative art form, and to use the same spelling twice in a row was a sign of poor imagination. Thats always the excuse I give when I can't use a spell checker. Peter mentioned Also, I forgot to mention in my earlier message that I changed a car wheel today, all by myself, with no help whatsoever. I am justifiably proud of this achievement, and will grow a moustache in its honour. Michael PS Pop subuteeo - whats that all about? PPS To everyone who never voted for me - ie everyone - UP YER BUM! PPPS Was that not one of the robots in Star Wars? "City full of steeples..." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 22:50:23 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:50:23 EST Subject: Sinister: racoon in the snow + list crush Message-ID: > 2 votes: > Reid Dossinger; Christa Chaffinch; Adrian Evans; Pam Berry; Jessicaxo; > Lady Penelope; Sarah Wheeler; Laurel Girvan; Michele Waggner; Brian > Winters; Beth Arzy; Sandra Volaric; Claire Timmins; Elisabeth (Petula); > Calumn Shearer; Matthew Hintz; Henry Thomas; St Lucy oooh! this is so exciting! there's me with two votes, and there's the famous st. lucy with two votes. and i've heard what they say about st. lucy... also to boost my ego, my crushboy numero deux, named tyler, apparently said something to my friend eve about me. now, if i find out that it's true, then i'll let you know what he said. however, it's not up to me to spread false rumours. they often get taken care of by others. so i must find out who has been voting for me...fess up, don't be afraid, i won't tell anyone. you can just send me email to say hi. and for those of you with a geocities aversion, i'm trying to find another place to move my website because i'm really sick of those stupid popup ads. oh, those of you who think i should take the plunge and go blonde, also send me mail. now, about the racoon: i woke up this morning and looked out my window to try and determine whether or not it had snowed overnight, and across the street on my neigbours roof was a racoon. yes, on the roof of a 2-storey house. it just sat there and stared at me, i think maybe he was trying to figure out how to get down. i would have helped, except racoons tend to be a bit moody and can get vicious. i hope he got down okay. love, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bellequasi at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 22:51:12 1998 From: Bellequasi at xxx.com (Bellequasi at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:51:12 EST Subject: Sinister: finally 16!! Message-ID: <7b9cc956.36534f60@aol.com> i know i don't post much since i'm fairly new to the list but i just wanted to say that tommorrow's my birthday! YEAH ME! kristie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nanettee at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 23:06:28 1998 From: Nanettee at xxx.com (Nanettee at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:06:28 EST Subject: Sinister: birthday list? Message-ID: It would be kind of nice if we had a birthday list so we could all send each other birthday greetings. I would be willing to put one together...it could either be emailed out or put up on a webpage somewhere. Good idea? Bad idea? Not an idea at all? Let me know if you want to participate...send me your birthday (use a boring subject line like "birthday list" or something so it doesn't accidentally get deleted) and I'll put it together! *i love birthdays* xo love nanette! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Wed Nov 18 23:32:42 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:32:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: birthday list? Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC65@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> Good idea. > ---------- > From: Nanettee at xxx.com] > Reply To: Nanettee at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 1998 23:06 > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: birthday list? > > > It would be kind of nice if we had a birthday list so we could all send > each > other birthday greetings. I would be willing to put one together...it > could > either be emailed out or put up on a webpage somewhere. Good idea? Bad > idea? > Not an idea at all? Let me know if you want to participate...send me your > birthday (use a boring subject line like "birthday list" or something so > it > doesn't accidentally get deleted) and I'll put it together! > > *i love birthdays* > xo > love > nanette! > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cp83985 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 18 23:39:27 1998 From: cp83985 at xxx.edu (Carl Polgar Jr) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 18:39:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: random rubbish Message-ID: i wore my b+s shirt today (the TWATTYBUS one) and, through twelve hours of romping about on campus, no one came running up to tell me how cool i am. (because one just doesn't feel cool until someone else points it out to you). oh well. these things take time, though. in the two and a half years that i have had my pulp shirt,four people have come up to me to extoll the virtues of pulp. and of those four occasions, two have led to smutty encounters, which is why i still would have to choose pulp over belle and sebastian. sorry. i know the whole bus story thing is long dead and gone but i'd rather talk about that than about some of the things that have gone on more recently on this list. besides, i only remembered it now. i've never done the public transportation thing, but i did go on a chartered bus to georgia once. on the way back, the driver started to fall asleep. i remember looking at his rearview mirror and seeing his head slowly slope downwards before rapidly jerking back up. a lot of the passengers started screaming and begged him to stop. he didn't want to. eventually, they convinced him to pull over at a hotel. the agreement was that we would let him get some sleep for a couple hours while we waited in the lobby. when he went off to his room, one of the passengers called greyhound and asked for another bus. the bus arrived about an hour later, and we all got in and took off, leaving the bus driver there. that's the condensed, boring version. the longer, Reid-length version has some funny bits in it. that's my message for this two week period. before going, i would very much like to thank lesley for those wonderful photos of the d.c. show. i very muched like the rest of the home page, too. give me your address and i'll send you some cookies. bye to all, carl, who was born on january 31, 1977. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aardvarkchic at xxx.com Wed Nov 18 23:51:52 1998 From: aardvarkchic at xxx.com (a b) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 15:51:52 -0800 (PST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981118235152.14463.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com> unsubscribe sinister _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 00:06:11 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 16:06:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: I'm stumped Message-ID: <19981119000611.2872.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Can anyone out there help me and my roommate stop racking our brains over this one: What was the name of Michael Hutchence's OTHER band, circa 1989? They did the song "Ghost of the Year" and the guitarist was in a wheelchair. My roommate swears this band existed. I have no idea what he's talking about. Help! aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil I go, you stay-- two autumns. _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Thu Nov 19 00:19:58 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 19:19:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: moustachioed men In-Reply-To: <19981119000701.9168.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: both peter and michael said: > > >Also, I forgot to mention in my earlier > > >message that I changed a car wheel > > >today, all by myself, with no help whatsoever. > > >I am justifiably proud of this achievement, > > >and will grow a moustache in its honour. > > > > I did this just a few weeks ago, and it does make you feel like a > real man. > > The temptation for me to grow a handle-bar moustache was exceptionally > > strong, especially as I had an old MG. What o, old chap. > > hmmm..ive changed mine a number of times but ive never had the desire afterwards to grow a moustache (handle-bar or not) was i doing something wrong then?? roberta **oh you look so tired + "Rock'n'roll is the most brutal, mouth slack and wide + ugly, vicious form of expression - ill-housed and ill-advised + sly, lewd, in fact plain dirty..a your face is as mean as + rancid-smelling aphrodisiac..the your life has been + martial music of every delinquent crash into my arms + on the face of the earth..." i want you****** + -'jack the ripper' (morrissey) + -Frank Sinatra 1957 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jonlrich at xxx.edu Thu Nov 19 01:32:05 1998 From: jonlrich at xxx.edu (Hooded Child (#47)) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 20:32:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: B&S on NPR In-Reply-To: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E3C1@NCMSERVER> Message-ID: ALL: Although up until now i have found it imperative to remain a silent observer of this list I have decided to write to wonder if anyone (else) heard the review of The Boy on NPR's "All Things Considered" earlier this evening. They basically just talked about the unavailability of Tigermilk, the U.S. tour and The progress B&S have made with this album. It also compared B&S to The Smiths by using a quote from Mr. Morrissey that had something to do with Music too precious something something something... that Mr. M had made in reference to The Smiths and which the reviewer found apllicable to B&S...If anyone heard this while not working in a loud resturant (as I was) I would be interested to know what exactly that quote and any other impressions of the NPR review. Finally I hear Belle and Sabastian on the radio, even if it had to be Public Radio....Plus +++++ Good Bye Now. Jonathan.................................. P.S. From what I have read so far, you al seem to be quite agreeable folks, If I may chance saying it............. ---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------1 ---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------2 ---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------3 ----------------------------------six months is a long time---------------- ---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------4 ---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------5 ---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------6 ---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------7 ---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------8 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 02:02:52 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:02:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Maximum Bob Message-ID: I think you'll find that the person who duetted with Glen Campbell was Bobbie Gentry (as in Bobbie from 'Home And Away') rather than Bobby Gentry (as in Bobby Gillespie). While we're on the subject, can I implore you all to buy her album 'Touch 'Em With Love'? It's blue-eyed soul which carries on from where 'Dusty In Memphis' (another classic) left off. As well as a joyous rendition of Blood Sweat and Tears' 'You Made Me So Very Happy', Ms Gentry gamely takes on Mr Bacharach's 'I'll Never Fall In Love Again' and - do you know? - I think she pips Ms Warwick's version by a short head. Meanwhile, has anyone else noticed the (probably deliberate) steal from Glen Campbell's 'Wichita Lineman' at the end of 'Photo Jenny'? Seeing as no-one else agrees on the similarity between 'Ease Your Feet In The Sea' and Omar's 'There's Nothing Like This', I don't hold out much hope, frankly. Martin Horsfield, 3 votes high and rising +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Thu Nov 19 02:29:36 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (keith m) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:29:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: i am embarassed to admit i know this Message-ID: <36538290.EECED74B@bignet.net> aaron wrote: >Can anyone out there help me and my roommate stop >racking our brains over this one: >What was the name of Michael Hutchence's OTHER band, >circa 1989? They did the song "Ghost of the Year" and >the guitarist was in a wheelchair. wasn't it Max Q? or something close to that? the birthday list suggestion is a great idea, pity that my birthday just passed 3 days ago:) i saw the star wars: the phantom menace trailer today, yay! keith np :bouquet 'coral kingdom' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 02:26:50 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:26:50 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Monica and Friends Message-ID: In answer to two less-than-crucial questions on the list tonight, which I still can't go to bed until I've answered all Smart Aleckly... Lovely Monica Queen was the singer in Thrum, a wonderful band from Glasgow who sounded like Maria McKee fronting Teenage Fanclub (just pause for a while and thonk how wonderful that could be). I last spoke to her in summer 1997, to ask whether she was singing with B&S at Union Chapel and could she blag me a ticket (she was, and no). I presume Thrum have now split as I see that her and guitarist John Smillie did a gig as a duo last year. Anyone who could put me back in touch with them, I would be very grateful. I hope they don't quit music altogether; their gigs in 1993/94 were among the best times I've had in London and as recently as 1996 I took a girlfriend to see them at the Borderline (she loved them, we met the band, top snog action, a perfect night, all told). Arond that time, I intrinsicly trusted anyone who liked Thrum and Teenage Fanclub. I guess I feel the same about Belle and Sebasitan, these days. As for the other question, Michael Hutchence's other band were called Max Q and, like INXS, I think you'll find they were irredeemably shite. Martin Horsfield, Fannie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 02:29:31 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 21:29:31 EST Subject: Sinister: the sinister conspiracy Message-ID: <2687c704.3653828b@aol.com> the marvelous Martin said: >>I should now like to know how many of us are, like the good Mr Murdoch, >>left-handed. That's left-handed in the left-handed sense of the word, by >>the way. I am, and I reckon there's an above average proportion of us >>cack-handed-useless-with-scissors-stick-our-tongues-out-when-trying-to- >>use-a-potato-peeler-types out there. Look at my website and you'll see I >>even play my bass in the 'sinister' fashion. thank you! martin you are truly a god now and rightfully deserve the vote i cast for you as my list crush! (yes! it's true dear chap, and i voted BEFORE finding out you are left handed!) i am so excited that someone else "came out" as being a leftie on the list! now where are the rest of you! there should be at least 80 of you! "rise up little souls - join the doomed army" (divine comedy quote) when i was in school i was obessed with finding out what hand all the creative and wonderful people in the world were! and basically the most influental people are all left-handed! i am not sure about the sex thing archel mentioned (but i would like to compare and contrast someday) i do know that lefties are statistically proven to die 6 months sooner than righties. basically due to car accidents because cars are designed for righties in the states and not lefties. :( so where are the rest of you creative and lovely people! i have left handed mugs, rulers, can openers, and scissors for the lot! :) jennifer who couldn't stand how the pencil used to smear on her papers in school! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 04:06:54 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:06:54 EST Subject: Sinister: the sinister conspiracy Message-ID: <913489f0.3653995e@aol.com> In a message dated 11/18/98 9:39:22 PM Eastern Standard Time, Thessaly1 at aol.com writes: > when i was in school i was obessed with finding out what hand all the > creative > and wonderful people in the world were! and basically the most influental > people are all left-handed! i am not sure about the sex thing archel > mentioned (but i would like to compare and contrast someday) i'm a leftie! and also very influential...but what is this sex thing? i can't believe i missed out on a post about sex! grumblegrumble, turn away for just one minute and smut appears all over. truly, jessicaxo ps. i'm only asking for reference use. imagine how guys would flock to me if they knew that i was left handed, and therefore must be a real sexual dynamo... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 04:06:52 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:06:52 EST Subject: Sinister: birthdays! Message-ID: <2c708a1.3653995c@aol.com> In a message dated 11/18/98 5:55:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, Bellequasi at aol.com writes: > i know i don't post much since i'm fairly new to the list but i just wanted > to > say that tommorrow's my birthday! > YEAH ME! > > kristie oh goodness, makes my upcoming twentieth feel like heaving a rock into the ocean with me tied to the other end. thank goodness there are no large bodies of saltwater around here. just puddles. and when is that birthday of yours? i hear you asking - that would be the fifth of april. it's still cardigan weather then, if you needed gift suggestions. ta, jessicaxo ps. oh my again, i nearly forgot to deliver my rousing rendition of Happy Birthday to kristie and anyone else celebrating a birthday in the near future. okay, so i can't sing in email. you can't blame a girl for trying. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 04:55:24 1998 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 23:55:24 EST Subject: Sinister: T-Rex Introduction Cower: or, Mark E. Smith headbutts the list Message-ID: <952a3b00.3653a4bc@aol.com> One recent posting: *You know your anglophilia is out of control when you realize you've spent two lunches' worth of money on a double-A sided single of crowd noise following a Creation Records band concert.* $15 to listen as a Jazz Butcher fan pleads with his mate to give the cute lass in the Close Lobsters shirt his prized dried daisy that actually hit Johnny Marr's fingers at the Wolverhampton Puss and Parrot? Priceless! Who on the list wouldn't shell out upwards of 50 cents for the quiet mumblings of fans, stunned that Momus has asked them if the nearby strip joint features flexible Japanese girls? As the said purchaser of single featuring a riot/background talk following a 1985 Jesus and Mary Chain concert, I can only plead severe early exposure to situationism, my half-assed notion of which leads me to finger discs that promise chaos! slogans! the crowd! taking! control! The stern Mr. Highway perhaps forgets that he once indicated that he, too, is the sort to purchase such a single. But he prefers to paint himself as a quick-tongued hunter, whereas I would never pretend to be other than a pink-cheeked collector. But if it pleases the gods, I briefly watched 120 Minutes the same day I bought the single, and, seeing nothing but goatee warriors Semisonic, went to bed. So I missed the damned video. What are the odds that they'll show it again? Probably while I'm at the Afghan Whigs show this Sunday. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 4xh3haysm at xxx.edu Thu Nov 19 18:17:44 1998 From: 4xh3haysm at xxx.edu (Maggie Hays) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:17:44 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Southpaws Unite! Message-ID: <365460C8.7816@marquette.edu> I rarely find a topic suitable enough for me to write into the list about (and I have been on this list for almost a year now), but as a leftie I feel that it is my job to come out of the lurkingness and speak. My question is this....I am dating another leftie. Now with this sex thing do two lefties cancel each other out? Is it sort of like a negative times a negative thing? I need to know for future reference. Also, I am proud to say that I have converted four people so far into B&S. Now, if each of these people in turn convert four other people do I get to count these new listeners as convertees also?? This could be an interesting math problem: Maggie has four friends that she gets to listen to her brilliant music. If every month each listener gets four more people to listen, how many B&S fans will Maggie have converted after four months? Just a thought to ponder..... Maggie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Crow2343 at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 07:04:32 1998 From: Crow2343 at xxx.com (Crow2343 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 02:04:32 EST Subject: Sinister: pounds and bucks. Message-ID: <4c093cd.3653c300@aol.com> hello. silly american boy has a question. what does 150 pounds translate into american dollars? i'm interested in the Tigermilk LP.... -dannyb +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Thu Nov 19 09:47:41 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 09:47:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: don't look at the carpet. Message-ID: Good Morning, Thank you very much to my six lusty admirers, Stuart is there any chance of a gender breakdown of this tally? I think I'll grow my flick back today, and stock up on baby oil and poppers just in case. Hold on a minute, what's this: David Moore astrally projected: >But I am the archer >the lover of laughter >and mine is the arrowed flight. >I am the archer >and my eyes yearn after >the unsullied sight. > >Robin Williamson, The Eyes Of Fate, 1967 At last! you're a quiet one....your all secret string band fans really, aren't you? I'll quote him the following year, so you can all see how his lyric writing blossomed. Last night I dreamed about Slow Graffiti for the third night in a row. This time it started really really high, and when he'd finished singing it struan said "thank you very much" like that squeaky wee lassie out of B*Witched, who had a number one with they're cover of the rollercoaster ride. I asked dream struan how he sings so high and he said "don't tell anyone, when I want to hit the high notes I lead the weasel to the tool". Again, i awoke proud and confused. I've been lacking pop direction since the departure of the duke. Will someone please proclaim themselves the all new duke? We could have auditions, like for Stars in their Eyes. Ah, I heard "When a child is born" in three different shops yesterday, splendid tune. black, white, yellow....no-one knows. Mathis is great, Linda said he had an affair with rock hudson. My mum sighs when anyone mentions rock hudson, and says "what a waste", then I kind of boke. I'm off to save this empire, Rod Begbie "singing ladybird, ladybird what is your wish your wish is not granted unless it's a fish your wish is not granted unless it's a dish a fish on a dish is that what you wish" -Robin Williamson 1968 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Thu Nov 19 11:57:49 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 03:57:49 -0800 Subject: Sinister: the fabulous but true, story of real life smut, posted for th e first time ever........ Message-ID: <000501be13b3$d5ab4e40$3711020a@rebelstrange> A fascinating story: i must have forgotten to tell it here when i was going over the DC tales. its' a bit of ready-made smut for y'all to relish and mull over. Little Ink Movie: Jess and Lesley Jo, a bit hungry, shvering slightly, but giddy with delight, are sitting on a low platform in the back of the Black Cat Club. Jo is wistfully eyeing the pixy-licious Isobel, who dances lightly on the other side of the room and relaxes by the pool table talking to stevie and stuart david, and occasionally seems to glance in the girls' general direction. But our Jo is too cowardly to walk over and make a fool of herself, despite the urgings of her friend, so to break the tension, she suggests, "I wonder where the restroom is in here." "I dont' know, lets' go ask the guy at the bar", Jess replies. they get up and traipse over, poor Jo hoping that someone will notice how casually and yet, shyly, delicately, they make their way across the dark room. somewhere in the background, people bang on drums and haul cases across the floor. "Excuse me," says Jess to the bar man, "can you tell us where the restrooom is?" "it's the band's only,' says the young man, "go down those stairs and to the right." "thanks" say the girls and head fo rthe stairs with trepidation. Down the passageway and into the cavernous, undecorative cement basement backstage area, they espy a door to the right and click the light on. "Eww.' says Jess. "Creepy." says Jo. there is one plain porcelain toilet, a little old sink with soem paper towels and a soap dispenser, and a tiny shower stall at the other end of the bare, unremarkable room. In the shower, some shampoo, soap, and a container of some sort of shaving cream. "that must be their stuff" say the curious girls. "if this is the only bathroom..." after washing their hands, they look with awe upon the bare-bulbed room. "I wonder how many cool people have used this, it should be in a museum." says Jo. "'Barbara Manning peed here', haha." adds Jess, refraining from mentioning the unspoken question on both their minds........... SMO (what does it mean ?) wrote: >>Excuse my ignorance, but who is Monica Queen? The girl who ruined a lovely Belle and Sebastian's song. SAEG escossia at electus.com. ok i have to admit at first the ms queen's voice freaked me out a bit, but on the other hand, Jane was the song that really seized me by the um, neurons, shook me like a t-rex and dug its teeth into my soul, thus sealing my destiny and intertwining it with this lovely collective of ragtag musicians. so i will have to step up and defend the vocal turn, as i really do like it the more i hear it and i feel it suits the particular song well. notice there are some B&s songs that could be categorized as fairly 'twee" (i.e. "mary Jo") but some that have that romping rough and tough but soft-edged, velvety 60's texture, i.e. jane. and many textures inbetween. they are a fine band i must say. although i would have to admit to my liking, i agree with the bit in the Magnet article that calls stevie's songs on Wonky Lap 'mawkish' or 'schmaltzy' one of those/ and spaceboy dream being rather an intrusion. although i kind of like spaceboy dream in its own quirky little (albeit b-side) manner. it has that funky thing going on that is entertaining. But i would prefer a sloppy take of 'Expectations" over the slickest Spaceboy, any day. it's just where my emotional nerve gets hit. digression............ , i would very much like to thank lesley for those wonderful photos of the d.c. show. i very muched like the rest of the home page, too. give me your address and i'll send you some cookies. bye to all, carl, who was born on january 31, 1977. ...Awww..thanks carl!! and me, I was born on january 12 1977...making me only a matter of weeks older than thou! if and when you read this, I like oatmeal cookies. Good idea, nanette.......and i appreciated your post the other day, it was either the one about cyberfriends, or another one i can't remember, i just remembered it was really good....... I have a friend who slagged me for talking online and having a computer. she said "well at least i go out and meet REAL people in person, blah blah..." You know what, she doesn't either. She's a misanthropist who never goes out, has no friends, does nothing, even though she lives in a big university town, she sleeps all day, and let me tell you, she has even less of a social life than me, which is unexplainably sad,( like saying "You're just a TAD bit more evil than Hitler"). Just because someone has email friends and talks online doesnt' make them automatically a shut-in with no life. I find it interesting to correspond in words, on paper as well as on screen, i have made my dearest friends through writing and emails and sharing of ideas. it's just one more way of making human connections in the world. Ok, here are the mad libs so far.....i would post all of them, but i dont' want to clog up the list too much! so i picked the 2 that made me laugh the hardest. and later i might post a conglomerate one, using words from all the entrants, all the choicest words.....hmm? the first one is from chris wirth and the next is from jim schmidt. good job, and keep up the smut, fellas......(though the luscious PhotoJeni added a little smut of her own....i wasnt' sure if i could legally post that one.....) Twilight in the mountains just outside Chris's ass: The stench of dishwashing soap is in the air, emanating from hordes of teenage poopyheads that have just been felled in waves. Stuart "Whimsical Weasel" Murdoch grinds upon the panicky carnage, throws down his pointed stick and falls to his knees, crying out to Mammon in heaven. "Damn You, Tootsies of Sex!!!" he wails. filled with lust by the destruction he has wrought, he falls on his toaster oven and ends it all. Twilight in the mountains just outside the tundra : The stench of tang & vodka is in the air, emanating from hordes of lousy teenage pissers that have just been felled in waves. Stuart "Love-crazed Weiner-dog" Murdoch grovels upon the funky carnage, throws down his lead pipe , and falls to his knees, crying out to Himself in heaven. "Damn You,Backbones of Sex!!!" he wails. Filled with luscious envy by the destruction he has wrought, he falls on his juicer and ends it all. maybe i should make it a series, and post more later. or maybe im just boring you all wtih my silly games.....er thanks for joining in! it was fun. i'll work on that conglomerate version for tomorrow.... working on my Velvet Isobel, lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From richard.connell at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 11:17:31 1998 From: richard.connell at xxx.com (Richard Connell) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:17:31 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: How do you spell New York? In-Reply-To: <000501be13b3$d5ab4e40$3711020a@rebelstrange> Message-ID: <4131171119111998/A04317/ADVAX1/11CB9AD11E00*@MHS> Hello everybody, futile appeal coming up..... Does anybody out there in cardie-land live in or around portsmouth. If so e-mail me as it'd be nice to know there is someone here with some taste in this city ruled by king Pete Tong and arch-duke Dave Pierce. In a b&s stylee i bought the acid house soundtrack the other day and really liked Slow Graffitti. I also had my first induction to the Pastels, which a lot of people here keep talking about. The song is very familiar, feels like ive heard it before. The Primal Scream track is top too. The rest is hmmmmmmmm ok except the chemical brothers which is a another example of the one-trick pony nature of this big beat thing. Bought a couple of b&s t-shirts the other day in the hope of bringing any local belles out of the woodwork and to show my allegiance to the cause. The first band t-shirt i've brought since the Happy Mondays one i had at school. Imagine that, 3 years at college and 3 at uni and not one band t-shirt, no wonder i wasnt allowed in the student union. Last and least, no list crush votes for me :( Understandable i suppose if this message is an example of the quality of my postings. So in order to rectify this, and add a bit of smut for a change, i am offering sexual favours for anyone who votes for me next time. Or if they prefer i promise not to promise them sexual favours. Which brings me full circle, starting with a futile appeal and ending with one too, which would seem to be a good place to say bye Bye Rich ps anyone who can answer my subject question correctly will get a smile and a wink. On my CD player: The auteurs - new wave +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MWaggner at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 11:27:03 1998 From: MWaggner at xxx.com (MWaggner at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:27:03 EST Subject: Sinister: don't look at the carpet. Message-ID: <81307502.36540087@aol.com> In a message dated 98-11-19 04:53:46 EST, you write: > > Mathis is great, Linda said he had an affair > with rock hudson. My mum sighs when anyone mentions rock hudson, and > says "what a waste", then I kind of boke. I used to work with a sweet, dumb woman named Giuseppina -- she was in her 50's and loved Rock Hudson to distraction. "What a MAN!" she'd say with a huge lustful sigh. My friend's mother used to say, "Look Josie, I went to school in the Village and used to see him in the bars. Give it up, you aren't his type." Josie would put her hands on her hips and say, "Shut your dirty mouth, Jean. Don't be filthy. He is NOT." Jean would go off and mumble, "You simple sonofabitch." I was kind of glad Josie never lived to see her dreams of Rock dashed. I also heard a rumor of Mathis and small animals. I really don't like to think about that. Just a tad too... let's think of Rock in his perfectly pressed PJ's. Thank you. > > "singing ladybird, ladybird what is your wish > your wish is not granted unless it's a fish > your wish is not granted unless it's a dish > a fish on a dish is that what you wish" > -Robin Williamson 1968 > ohmigosh -- it's like 5 in the morning here and this makes me want to go down to the basement and fish out the vinyl.... scary to have a flashback before sunrise. No, wait, I have a cd filed here, right next to Jefferson Airplane.. .but this Wee Tam is not as good as Hangman's Beautiful Daughter is it? I think I'll start a commune. In spring -- it's getting too damn cold here now. You can come and pitch a tent in the back yard, live amongst the mulberry bushes and dress in flow-y multicolored scarves and dance around in the moonlight with a mandolin -- all the snakes will come out of the hedges and teach you songs... wearing tiny little garlands of flowers. The canada geese will come up the hill and follow you around. Your wee Struan can harmonize in his high piping voice, caused I suspect by silver pants that are just a bit too tight. Peter Miller will chase the kingfisher in his basque beret and partisan shirt, while the Duke pontificates in flowing robes and a bishop's mitre. Miss Honey can serve tea and cakes in an apron and Linda will tend the garden with her green thumb and patience. The NY Sinisterines will come in a gypsy goat cart. Jonny will teach us the secrets of making mead. Holly will weave and sew bright costumes for all. Can we get a minotaur? This should finish me off with the neighbors once and for all. I can see there are definitely reasons to stay in bed later than this. Hamster smut and communes before sunrise... I'm going back to the business I got up for. The cd is over. I'm putting something less colorful on now. Forgive my rambling. Incredible String Band, indeed. --michele +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 11:17:12 1998 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:17:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Seventies Honey Message-ID: <199811191116.LAA10687@punt1.hw.ac.uk> Dear chaps Peter Miller wrote: >"Tigermilk" is Ice Breaker blue. Who remembers them? They were >better than Spangles. I hope I've got the name right. Linda will >know, she has an elephant's memory where the greatest decade in >human history is concerned. Yes indeed, Ice Breakers were a seventies landmark in confectionary. Glam choc. They came out about the same time as Old Jamaica, and were on the top row in the sweet shop, near the till. Milky chocolate shot through with shards of bluey-green "magic stuff" that cut your lips, in a shiny glam wrapper. They represented the world of grown-up spending capacity, and cost 18p. I still feel it is bad to buy them, being the equivalent of over 3 Cadbury's Animal Bars. The seventies were my formative years and there is nothing I can do about it, sigh, although I do prefer them as seen through Peter's retrospective gaze. Being born in 1965, I went to school in 1970, and expected that everything would go in fives and tens from then on, until I was 35 in the year 2000. Decimalisation held no fears for me - it is how the world was meant to be. Brier wrote >Why do people keep calling Honey a "mrs."? He's Paul, a boy, non? >I've been here a while but am still rather confused re: gender. >Patriarch or matriarch? Enquiring minds want to know. But >regardless, please heed his/her/its wisdom-filled posts. Having lived with our gallant leader for twelve years, I spill the beans that Miss Honey runs a high-class whorehouse in New Orleans, and administers strict discipline on the sinister list just to keep her hand in. The name Paul is used occasionally for tax purposes. No, seriously, Miss Honey, is a beautiful princess who got sleeping sickness when kissed by an evil blonde prince who then went and married a fucking vicar and now sends us a parish circular every Christmas. You choose. L. xx EEVL Project Officer L.Kerr at hw.ac.uk Heriot-Watt University Library, Edinburgh EH14 4AS UK Tel : +44 (0)131 451 3572 Fax: +44 (0)131 451 3164 ********************************************************************* Visit the Engineering Virtual Library http://www.eevl.ac.uk/ or join the discussion list http://www.mailbase.ac.uk/lists/eevl/ ********************************************************************* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 12:20:08 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:20:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Acid House Message-ID: Friends My flatmate went to see the Acid House last night because he's a pal of one of the actors in it who I knew at Uni. Turns out Slow Graffiti is his song! When the music is playing in the film it's accompanying pictures of Kev. He's lovely - couldn't happen to a nicer guy! JJ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 12:33:45 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (S.K. Gardiner) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:33:45 +0000 (gmt) Subject: Sinister: D'Oh! In-Reply-To: <81307502.36540087@aol.com> Message-ID: OK, I admit it, I really should have noticed that I had Beth / Madame Cholet down twice. Oops. You may now form an orderly queue to publicly whip me. People who voted for me get to go first... Oh, and I forgot to mention - as Charlotte pointed out to me, if you go to www.secretadmirer.com you can send an anonymous email to whoever you've got a crush on, and if you get a match it'll let you know... I've had loads of comments from random people when I've been wearing my TWATTYBUS T-Shirt, all complimentary as well. When I'm wearing the white cartoon T-Shirt though, that's when the smut starts (I still remember the very drunk woman who came up to me at a late-night takeaway and said something along the lines of "Is that boy you, and the girl me?". If you've seen those T-Shirts, you'll know why I ran a mile...). btw, on an entirely irrelevant note, I just love the way that on the white cartoon shirts they've forgotten to colour in part of it - I think from memory it's one of the knees - it adds a certain sweetness to it all. Still in shock that anyone voted for me, Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Thu Nov 19 10:08:11 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:08:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I am curious orange In-Reply-To: <199811181825.NAA93452@pimout3-int.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Everyone knows the words orange, month , purple and silver can't be rhymed. There are others and I'll just consult my rhyming dictionary and be right back , hang on, don't go away.............................. I can't seem to find it .................... It must be in my locker.......... Oh, I think I gave it to my friend. I really do have one, it's a blue Wordswoth edition that cost me one pound in a sale............ No, it must be at home....... Duly delete and go on to the next message. I am feeling humble at having made you wait for nothing. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 08:15:47 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 00:15:47 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Re: EP's For Sale Message-ID: <003101be1394$d4679bc0$0d9ecdcf@brier> Hi Cute Bunnies; My local CeeDee shop has the Lazy Line Painter Jane and 3..6..9..Seconds EPs for sale at $9.99 each. I don't know if they're hard to find elsewhere, but if anyone wants them I'll pick 'em up for ya, providing you'll pay me $20 each for them (just kidding, David). Let me know. JJ "Kid Dy-no-mite" sweetly said: >Not everyone CAN watch MTV. I'm not going to get to see this video, That's like saying "I don't have a CD player, so I HAFTA bootleg the albums onto mp3." If you don't have the tools, it's not their fault, ya know? >I believe songs are also copyrighted, so why overlook cassette tape >recordings of stuff? You can't turn a blind eye to one and not >the other. They can and they HAVE, for now, and I think we're incredibly lucky that they do. But if we misbehave, then maybe they'll stop being so kind about it. Again, we are very lucky that they knowingly allow widespread boots of something like Tigermilk. True, it would be hard to enforce, but the fact that they allow (encourage?) it is nice. Thank you, Jeepster. (That still doesn't get you off the hook from someday re-releasing the damn thing, though!) P.S. I would give my left nut if someone would make me a Felt tape; they're impossible to find stateside. Luv & Lullabyes. -the brier +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 13:06:15 1998 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:06:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: No subject Message-ID: I feel terrible, i have a cold, sore throat, sore eyes, sore arms, sor legs, i haven't shaved in allmost a week,i didn't have time for a shower this morning, i had a clinical skills test this this morning, and i can't find anyone i'd actually like to go to lunch with. But worst of all, I'm noones list crush, well never mind, i never post anyway coz all i know how to talk is shite. sorry about that, i just had to share the pain. colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 12:57:46 1998 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:57:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister:Cheese vs.Giraffe Message-ID: <365415CA.C7B12D3D@cs.strath.ac.uk> Chris Jones wrote > Well, cheese wins hands down. > Cheese wins? Are you mad? Giraffes have little birds that live on them and eat their ear wax and dandruff. What does cheese have? Mould? By the way my birthday's on the 29th if anyone's in the generous mood and feels compelled to send me inspiring CD's, books, chocolate etc. Ally +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bferneyhough at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 13:30:50 1998 From: bferneyhough at xxx.uk (Ben Ferneyhough) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:30:50 GMT Subject: Sinister: who sinster Message-ID: <199811191330.NAA19482@brookes.ac.uk> who sinster +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MctaggartR at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 13:32:25 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:32:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Kissing with confidence Message-ID: Hello "Cyberchums", Martin wrote: >While we're on the subject, can I implore you all to buy her album >'Touch 'Em With Love'? Can I implore you to do that as well. It is very good. I like Glen Campbell too, though that didn't stop me from being punched in the face by one of the Sea Urchins for suggesting his politics were a little dubious. I don't think I helped matters by calling him a "jumped-up little Bobby Gillespie wannabe shite", or laughing at him when he hit me. They're bloody hard, these janglepopsters. Christopher Alexander Leonard wrote: >I've been lacking pop direction since the departure of the duke. >Will someone please proclaim themselves the all new duke? I nominate....hmmm....let's see....can we have a lady duke? There's no earthly reason why the Duke has to be a man, as anyone whose seen the old one's picture will testify. How about Carmen? Lady Linda signed herself thus: >EEVL Project Officer >L.Kerr at hw.ac.uk Linda, be so kind as to tell us what evil projects you officiate, and how long have you been going to Noel Whitey's spelling classes? I should join seeing as though I've been spelling my lesbian lover John Warrander's name wrong for the past three years. Sad news - Saint Lucy has left the list, in a fit of pique at not getting any more crush votes after the recount, but she was impressed by all the mail she got. "My box has never seen so much activity", she said, contendedly. She thanks her admirers, particularly "Electric sex warrior" and "Ihaveahugepenis", and would like to point out that she does not live in Govan. Anyway, she's off to star with La Cicciolina in "Flasher John - the movie". Fondest regards, Taggart xxxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 14:03:36 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:03:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: who sinster Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC67@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> Wow, Wow, Wow !!! I am realy surprised: you are at Oxford Brookes!!! My girlfriend is stduying there and she really hsa a hard time because all the people she has met are awfully lame. Would you mind seeing her (she also likes B&S). She is called Djami, her e-mail is 98038670 at brookes.ac.uk Clem > ---------- > From: Ben Ferneyhough[SMTP:bferneyhough at xxx.uk] > Reply To: Ben Ferneyhough > Sent: Thursday, 19 November 1998 13:30 > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: who sinster > > > who sinster > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geek_girl at xxx.net Thu Nov 19 14:13:49 1998 From: geek_girl at xxx.net (Kung Fu Faker) Date: 19 Nov 98 09:13:49 EST Subject: Sinister: birthdays Message-ID: <19981119141349.12696.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net> I know there are a lot of Sagittarian babies on this list. C'mon fess up, it's the coolest zodiac sign (okay, that's debatable)! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 14:06:49 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:06:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: They're taking it out on us References: Message-ID: <365425F9.643F98EF@jeepster.co.uk> Mark Kolmar wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Nov 1998, Heather Marie Propes wrote: > > > What is the general interpretation of this line: > > > > "All the others did drugs > > they're taking it out on us" > > A couple of possibilities: > > a) > > b) c) maybe it refers to the 'casuals' out there. in pulp's world there is the upper class, middle class, working class and a different class, and that's us. in belle and sebastian's world this holds true still ("ah, wee chris. the casuals tried to do you in when you were at school, but they're all listening now. they're sitting in burger king. and they're thinking, 'jesus! that's chris geddes from dalry!'. and chris is sitting there, cool as a cat behind a steinway grand on national radio.", from the sleeve to is you're feeling sinister). and the point? well it's the casuals who are down at their local disco, doing 'e', acid and speed. it's them that are dying of freak accidents and dehydration due to drugs. and the older generation? they're passing laws and coming down on our generation. but we didn't do it, we're not the ones f*ing up and killing ourselves. it's the casuals, go ask them. but no, the others may have done dugs, but since the swines are unaccountable we'll blame you lot for being the same age and for going to the same uni's, etc. we're being punished for what the casuals have done. hence the lyric. i don't mind belonging to a different class, i just wish that this means that we'll stick together and help our dreams come to fruition, at least then we'll break out of this casual world of existence. anyone feel the same? probably not, just hit delete and move on david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Chi.M.Lee at xxx.gov Thu Nov 19 14:15:00 1998 From: Chi.M.Lee at xxx.gov (Chi.M.Lee at xxx.gov) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 9:15:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: pounds and bucks. Message-ID: As of today, 150 UK pounds equals 250.17 US dollars. Chi M. Lee >hello. silly american boy has a question. what does 150 pounds translate >into >american dollars? i'm interested in the Tigermilk LP.... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 14:38:09 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:38:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: the wor(l)d of kitchen Message-ID: <19981119143809.28958.rocketmail@send101.yahoomail.com> dawhlings, is this pulp classification thing the same as asking if one is pepsi generation or snapple generation? i'm definately a snapple boy. oh! and *mwah* *mwah* to both of the dears (two!! mark, two!!!) who give me a nod in the crush stakes...yours will be the kingdom of lady p, gateau du wizz. lady penelope ============================ david kitchen wrote: "c) maybe it refers to the 'casuals' out there. in pulp's world there is the upper class, middle class, working class and a different class, and that's us. in belle and sebastian's world this holds true still ("ah, wee chris. the casuals tried to do you in when you were at school, but they're all listening now. they're sitting in burger king......" _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 14:30:30 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:30:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: ask an obscure question... Message-ID: <19981119143030.21433.rocketmail@web1.rocketmail.com> Thanks to you all who came up with Max Q. My roommate was very happy to know this, as was I, because now I can promptly stop thinking about it and start wasting valuable brain space on things like my job and girls. aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil I go, you stay-- two autumns. _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From buffalo at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 14:40:09 1998 From: buffalo at xxx.uk (Ian Turton) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:40:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Hill hill References: <365415CA.C7B12D3D@cs.strath.ac.uk> Message-ID: <36542DC9.2D98B03@easynet.co.uk> Alasdair Cook MS1996 wrote: > Chris Jones wrote > > > Well, cheese wins hands down. > > > > Cheese wins? Are you mad? > > Giraffes have little birds that live on them and eat their ear wax and > dandruff. > > What does cheese have? Mould? I don't like it when cheese goes runny. I saw a giraffe go runny in Zambia and it's one the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed - real life in slow-motion. PyJamaMiller writted: > Also, I forgot to mention in my earlier message that I changed a car > wheel today, all by myself, with no help whatsoever. Credit where credit's due, as your friend Jack might say. I taped The Orchids album 'Lyceum' and some of their singles for a friend's birthday yesterday. I know it's a matter of taste, but, really, The Field Mice just can't touch 'em. Jewellery, jewellery, jangle jangle, now then, now then. This rhyming silver and oranges thingy's given me an idea. You can rhyme any word with another word, if you don't say them right, right ? Which made me think of vocoders. Which made me think 'why doesn't someone write rhyming vocoder poetry' i.e. poetry that only rhymes when your voice is vocoded ? I think it would be easier than normal poetry, and very dull. Will Eric B and Rakim ever do a remix of Chin Chin's 'Dark Days' ? Did Glen Campbell, Bobbie Gentrie, Lee Hazlewood and Nancy Sinatra ever double-date ? Turt Fish lives in water --- thirsty +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 14:58:33 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 06:58:33 PST Subject: Sinister: I'm stumped Message-ID: <19981119145833.11269.qmail@hotmail.com> MAX Q! "it's only fear under another name" > > >Can anyone out there help me and my roommate stop >racking our brains over this one: > >What was the name of Michael Hutchence's OTHER band, >circa 1989? They did the song "Ghost of the Year" and >the guitarist was in a wheelchair. > >My roommate swears this band existed. I have no idea >what he's talking about. Help! > >aaron > > > >=== >atieger at rocketmail.com >auger/anvil > >I go, > you stay-- >two autumns. > > > > >_____________________________________________________________________ >Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. >* Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com >* Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Nov 19 14:11:47 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:11:47 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Be Young, Be Foolish, Be Happy Message-ID: <01be13c6$8bd99f20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Linda wrote: some stuff about Ice Breakers Thanks, I was beginning to think I'd gone doolally. No wonder you are so wise, Linda. 1965! That's unthinkable for me. I was born in the political upheaval of May 68, which is probably why I'm such a left-wing radical. And why I can't remember that girl watering the plants on the Double Deckers. Chris wrote: Rod Begbie which has sent me hurtling into a profound depression. I miss Rodd. Roddd, Rodddd, wherefore art thou Roddddd? Have any Boston listees bumped into Rodddddd yet? Chris also wrote: something about lacking pop direction without the Duke. I know how you feel. Since Duke defected to the Shalala flexilist I feel all at sea as well. Instead of enjoying his company and wisdom on equal terms, I am reduced to pressing my nose up against the window and reading the archives, an outcast from life's popfeast. You see, it's invitation only, and I didn't get one. It's all McMick McMick's fault. I want an invitation! I promise not to join if I get an invitation, but this indie exile is playing hell up with my lumbago. Tim Hopkins is the evil mastermind behind it all. He's fat, he's round, he represents the pop underground. If we must have a new Duke, my vote goes to shy retiring Keith Watson. Peter In my CD player: the theme music from Test Match Special on repeat. I bet none of you know who plays the piano and cowbells? Give up? Why, it's Isaac Hayes of course! Isn't that a remarkable thing? I knew he was fantastic all along. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 15:32:11 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:32:11 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: The Young Ones In-Reply-To: <01be13c6$8bd99f20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: Hello! I am really glad after discovering one of our popes and leaders, the baronet of Hondarribia, (not promoted to Duke yet, is it all right with a 'baronetship'?)is 5 years and half older than me and he still has managed to stay radically sinister-wing and indoubtfully cool beyond 30. Jordi, the other regular listee living crossing the Pyrinees, is only 19, not to speak of someone who said yesterday she was going to turn 16 , finally...! Sniff. Anyway I am going to be tricky 'orange' rhymes with 'stripe' , and 'silver' with 'drag', no way to find anything with purple, but 'month' could be rhymed with 'Scottish'! .All that in Spanish, sure. Have B&S played some covers in their gigs or whenever apart from 'poupee de cire...' and' Reel around the Fountain' ? I got one vote, Stu, and you did not put me on the list! I won't talk you ever again and won't let you play with my Lego again! By the way, the Duke himself should abandon his silence and proclaim the heir to his crown. Nobody can claim the Dukeship by him/herself. Aristocratically yours Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Poverina at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 15:38:33 1998 From: Poverina at xxx.com (Poverina at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 10:38:33 EST Subject: Sinister: birthdays Message-ID: <189e832e.36543b79@aol.com> Out of lurking to ask each of you to take a quiet moment of reflection on December 9th in honor of my 25th. Yeah, so I've seen a quarter of a century pass before my wide-eyes and have nothing much to say on the matter except: Oh, is that another grey hair I spy among the reddish brown ones? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geek_girl at xxx.net Thu Nov 19 16:11:28 1998 From: geek_girl at xxx.net (Kung Fu Faker) Date: 19 Nov 98 11:11:28 EST Subject: Sinister: Backshots, Dobbers and Donkey Pants! Message-ID: <19981119161129.17917.qmail@www08.netaddress.usa.net> Frank Yang wrote: >B&S content - I'm lending both IYFS and TBWTAS to a friend of a friend >whom I have a crush on. How's that for devotion? I just hope I get >them back eventually.. What?! Just earlier today I decided that you are my list crush of the week--don't go breaking my heart now. ;) ac (who will be turning 22 too soon) ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 16:25:51 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:25:51 -0000 Subject: Sinister: erm... I've noticed you around... I find you very attractive... Would you like a list crush from me? Message-ID: Hello friendly list peeps. and an _especially_ big hello-and-a-hug-with-a-snuggle to the Two people who sent in crush votes for me.. I'm well chuffed, considering I hardly ever post, but I've gone into severe detective mode, racking my brain to try to find out who it was.... go on, tell me... I promise I won't go all obsessive/posessive on you (unless you want me to ;-) ) anyway... a few things to write about... Someone was speculating on the specific gender of the listmomma Honey, (Quick apology to Honey - look away everyone else - I have been meaning to say "thanks" for your mail, but I've been working _really_ hard lately, and haven't had time yet. I'll write it after this.. honest!)... Lovely Linda answered this, but I was wondering..... why "Honey"? well, to answer my own question (and introduce a little low grade smut) I quote the first lines of "The Stars Of Track And Field" by a band called Belle and Sebastian (they're quite a good band) Make a new cult every day to suit your affairs Kissing girls in English, at the back of the stairs You're a honey, with a following of innocent boys They never know it Because you never show it You always get your way well, that tells a lot, doesn't it. Pertinent lines: "Make a new cult every day to suit your affairs" - Well what else is this list? "You're a honey" - Self evident "with a following of innocent boys" - ahem.... "You always get your way" - Mothers _always_ get their way. well, that's my theory. and I'm sticking with it. erm... what else has been happening? oh... the "Jenny Thing".... well, my anonymous crushes with (maybe) be glad to know that I'm still Young, Free and Single (well, single, anyway) as it didn't exactly work out as I had planned. I took all your advice to heart, was attentive, but not pushy and generally as charming as can be (I'm good at charming...) but she prefered the look of the 6'4" Shit-Brickhouse american footballer called "Chris" (nice looking, but dim) so. In a shocking display of vengeful bitterness, Calumn has demoted Jenny from "Light of my life, apple of my eye" status to "lowly worm-ridden tastless bitch" . It's childish and fickle, I know... but damnit if it doesn't make me feel better. Oh, the whole "in my CD" thing's great - it's a good indication of what people are listening to without having that (in my opinion) irritating ListList. BUT, that's not to say that you can't reccomend a good album now and again - like I'm about to... (did you see that coming?) SO, David Holmes' "Essential Mix." - Fan-bloody-tastic. why?, I hear you say, would anyone of taste and sophistication want to listen to a Radio 1 (so called) "Essential Mix"? Who wants to hear that much "bangin' techno-dance" in one sitting? Who could cope? Well, fear not, fey friends... for David Holmes shall surely rescue us from the dread Mix Hell of Dance. This is a fine (double!) album - It's got... Brigite Bardot "contact" ("connnntak") and, and, oh.. Marlena Shaw "California Soul".... oh, it's great. I think Select reviewed it and said (I'm paraphrasing here... ) "It's like a mix tape by your friend with the soul collection, and a massive 7" single fetish." .... or something like that. well, correct me if I'm wrong, but there are a few of those on this list.... Well, that's it. David Holmes' Essential Mix. A damn fine piece of plastic, and It'll fit nicely on one tape, for in-car-mucal-gubbins. There was something else, but I've forgotten it. oh, well... Loveandhugstoyouall cal In my CD player -Portishead "NYC live", TWATTYBUS, The Tartan Amoebas "Evolution", and Nine Inch Nails "Pretty Hate Machine" (hehe - quad changer) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Thu Nov 19 15:22:33 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:22:33 -0200 Subject: Sinister: the fabulous but true Message-ID: <01be13d0$6deb1200$0100007f@localhost> Lesley J. Miller wrote: >The girl who ruined a lovely Belle and Sebastian's song. >ok i have to admit at first the ms queen's voice freaked me out a bit, but >on the other hand, Jane was the song that really seized me by the um, >neurons, shook me like a t-rex and dug its teeth into my soul, thus sealing >my destiny and intertwining it with this lovely collective of ragtag >musicians. so i will have to step up and defend the vocal turn, as i really >do like it the more i hear it and i feel it suits the particular song well. *I love Monica Queen X I hate Monica Queen is an old subject* I really like the song..that's why i'd like to get the radio session version. Lesley..i tried so hard to like Monica Queen's voice. I like ALL Belle and Sebastian's songs..i really like. But when i make B&S compilation tape to some friends, I don't put Lazy Line Painter Jane. I think i sent to sinister (a long time ago, coollist ?) a list of better voices to sing Lazy Line Painter Jane. Rachel Slowdive/Mojave 3 Pam Berry Isabel Monteiro I can't remember all the names now. I finally ordered Nick Hornby's High Fidelity. "blame" Courtney site :o) but it will take so many time to get here :o( Live in Mars is not funny anymore. Fin de Siecle is growing in me Can you see, Lesley ? I'm a good guy...i try to like everything... But please, don't ask me to give Catatonia another chance :o) >i would very >much like to thank lesley for those wonderful photos of the d.c. show. >i very muched like the rest of the home page, too I think i lost something. Which page is it ? Can you send me the URL ? Keeping the Faith ~~~^~^v^~^v^~^v^~^v^~v^~^v^~^v^~ Ivo A P Escossia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 16:31:52 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:31:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Blacky's Message-ID: <365447F1.28D2@javanet.com> noticed this post while catching up after days of icky school work personally i think that swerve is Giant Sand's blandest record of those that I've heard (those being: "Ballad of A Thin Line Man", "Valley Of Rain", "Purge And Slouch", "Love Songs", "Glum", "Center Of The Universe", "Long Stem Rant" (unbefriggginleavable), "Ramp" "Swerve" and "Backyard BBQ Broadcast") Swerve has a couple good songs but songs that Howe did much better versions of on "Backyard BBQ Broadcast" (maybe my fav GS album) and a solo record he did 91 which i randomly came across in Boston called "Dreaded Brown Recluse" which is no doubt out of print though they're sposed to be reissuing everything soon (YIPPE YIPEEEE YAAAAY) dunno if youve heard "Backyard BBQ Broadcast" buts its the most recent Giant Sand (under that name) album, its mostly recorded live whrere the name suggests, recorded in someonee's backyard in jersey (i think) for a radio station, will Bill Elm the bastard steel player from friends of dean martinez who kicked Joey and John out of the band so he could take over, aboslutely incredible album including the studio trakcs, a couple remix type things including a song called "Lester Is A Lampshade" which is wonderfully happy silly um i suggest buy any giant sand album you find (hard to find, less so on the west coast of america, i found "Purge & slouch", "Ramp", "Valley of rain", "Ballad of A Thin Line Man", "Long Stem Rant" and all in seattle (Celophane square for the first two, Tower recrods (go figure) for the second two which are on one cd, and Nothing Major (a wunnerful indie store in Tacoma, WA with sspiffy yello buttons that say "it's Nothing major" i have one on my backpack with my "world's greatest?" button and they have a little kid with funny hair named Sage (after the band i think) um yeah BBQ isnt too hard to find, Valley of Rain/Ballad of A Thin Line man has been showing up and Center Of The Universe too, you can order most of them online if you wanna ruin the fun of finding them in a tower records playing gansta rap and ungodly decibel levels wowie this is long, can you tell i like this bandd a little bit? as for live ramshackle isnt a word i would use, chaotic maybe, unpredictable yes, godly most definitely I saw Mark Eitzel play with them at SXSW in 96 that was incredible (that was my intro to Giant Sand), first Joey and John backed up Mark then Howe came on to a big ass grand piano and mark left after a song or two i didnt know any of the songs so couldnt teell you what they played but it was insane, it wasnt crazy loud it was quiet and mellow, they're getting old and mellowing out a bit (their first few albums are kinda scary, pre-joey and john) which is a good thing i think, howe got up and did his strumming the piano strings bit that he does on several songs on various records oh and before Mark Eitzel came on to sing it was Calexico (Joey and John of course) by themselves, just a surfish guitar and drums, Calexico live is indescribable, John's drumming is...ahhhh...it has to be experienced, no horns or cello, or bass or accordian or anythbing else from teh records just guitar and drums doing all a guitar and drums can do without hurting your ears ok i think thats finally all i have to see www.giantsand.com has info on the band and the label they finally formed to reissue their albums, Howe's new solo record Hisser which is mighty fine is on this label but distributed through V2 yeha thats all i have to say, these boys are gods in my mind (warped as it is) ----ev np-Mercury Rev-Deserter's Songs (a record hasnt blown my mind in this way with this type of music since I heard Tindersticks' 2nd, as someone said in some magazine about that record "totally fucking godhead", that always summed it up nicely, and applies to this one too, wowie) -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 19 16:39:55 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:39:55 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Sha-La-La, shooby doo wa, ba ba ba-ba, and all that References: <01be13c6$8bd99f20$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <365449DB.517B647@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello List, Well, I'm quite elated today, having gotten a rather good grade in a class I thought I would get quite a bad grade in. Well, maybe I thought I would get a mediocre grade, with the possibility of a bad one. Regardless, let's move on. PJMiller wrote: > Chris also wrote: > > something about lacking pop direction without the Duke. > > I know how you feel. Since Duke defected to the Shalala flexilist I > feel all at sea as well. Instead of enjoying his company and wisdom on > equal terms, I am reduced to pressing my nose up against the window > and reading the archives, an outcast from life's popfeast. You see, > it's invitation only, and I didn't get one. It's all McMick McMick's > fault. I want an invitation! I promise not to join if I get an > invitation, but this indie exile is playing hell up with my lumbago. > Tim Hopkins is the evil mastermind behind it all. He's fat, he's > round, he represents the pop underground. Well, I think I should clarify some stuff. Yes, our list is invitation only, but the way you get an invitation is by writing to either myself or Pete Hahndorf and saying "Hey, can I please get an invitation and subscribe to your list?" and assuming you aren't a proverbial Ryan Stotz, we'll send you an invitation. Or should I say, Pete will, as I know nothing of listserv software, and at the moment, Pete hasn't had time to dummify it so that I can use it =P And all of you who don't feel like subscribing can see our archives at lists.twee.net. If you want to hear talk of the Wake, the Railway Children, the Jasmine Minks, How Many Beans Makes Five, the Siddleys, Another Sunny Day, Hopkirk & Lee, etc, please subscribe. Especially if you're of the female persuasion, our populace is too testosterone-heavy. There you will find the Duke, along with many Sinisterines of past and present. Incidentally, a lot of people in the past have asked me about the Sandcastle Records thing in my sig. Yes, I run a very small label. I've only got one release out so far. You'd think if people were curious about it, they'd go to the webpage listed in my sig, but no... Well if you're too lazy, there's an awfully good UK mailorder place on the web, www.pennyblackmusic.com, that has info on my comp in their front page this week. Said mailorder seems quite nice, carrying I believe everything B&S minus Tigermilk, and being a good source for a large number of Felt albums, as well as the new Field Mice retrospective (buy it!) and a number of other things. Drat, I hope this post isn't too commercial. I'll never ever plug my label again, promise =) Well, only two days until I find out if I made my first B&S conversion (from a mixtape made last year, no less) just 5 days until I get paid a visit by reigning US crush champion Magnetic Megan. How will I ever have time to post? /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Thu Nov 19 16:48:10 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:48:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Oops, I almost forgot References: Message-ID: <36544BCA.5407190B@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Uh... Well I knew I had SOMETHING else to say that wasn't plugging something... Oh well, pardon the double-post, if you please... Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia wrote: > Have B&S played some covers in their gigs or whenever apart from > 'poupee de cire...' and' Reel around the Fountain' ? Indeed they have. Forgetting some of the titles, there was "Turn, Turn, Turn," not originally done by the Byrds, but I think that was the version they patterned their cover after. Then this past US tour they debuted an R.E.M. cover of some sort. Forget the title. At Manchester they did a cover of Orange Juice's "In a Nutshell," with Isobel on vox. Can't say it was an improvement on the song, from what I've heard, but then how could you? They also did some versions of the Velvets' "Mirror," which was originally sung by Nico, and then there were covers of the Left Banke (I'd still like to hear that one!) and Beck. I seem to recall another cover...but it's slipping my mind. I also heard they recorded a cover of a Felt song with an ink polaroid spoken word-ed overtop, instead of vocals. I don't think they've done that live, though. When are we going to hear Love & McCarthy covers? Perhaps they'll do a Love song (haha) when they play in LA on the west coast tour? Also, when will we hear a cover recorded & released? Oh, I suppose they're one of those bands that doesn't record covers (sigh). /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 16:57:29 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:57:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Cryptic Message 29 Message-ID: <199811191651.QAA06073@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Still no votes for me. Ah, you'll all come running back when I put my photo up on the site. Juschoowait! Ah, but then... Someone said they were young, free and single. I am young and single but alas not free. Decypher that if you will. What else...? The Monica Queen debate seems to be firing up again. Can't see the problem myself, in fact I think she improves the song. Ivo A P Escossia said, "Fin de Siecle is growing in me" Which I'll take as a further reccomendation. People, buy this album - It's even better than 'Liberation' and that is a compliment of enormous stature. I dont know why but today I'm incredibly happy for no good reason at all. I'm not analysing it for fear that it'll go away... Still, it's nice. More importantly, cheese wins because you cant have melted giraffe on your crumpet. Tab button won't work, WeeJay PS Glad the argument has stopped. Well done. James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 17:02:13 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:02:13 -0500 Subject: Sinister: smut References: Message-ID: <36544F07.69E3@javanet.com> i like rehashing old threads and i figure its excusable since i didnt exist on here when it came about originally well, having had sex twice both times being rather unsuccessful(i wont go into details im hardly an expert on the subject but good post sex music is Friends Of Dean Martinez, i spose that it could be used while in process but it fits the feeling afterward perfectly i found, I would reccomend Dixie Chicken by Little Feat but like I said it wasnt the most successful coupling in history (partially due to the fact that i made the girl move and fastforward when a song skipped) ok i prolly should not have shared any of that by the way this girl was someone i met online, im not against virtual relationships, she didnt treatme like shit causewe met online its cause she was an evil bitch, ahem pardon the bitterness ill go back to my cave now ----Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 17:11:07 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:11:07 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I like my "virtual cyberfriends," thank you very much References: Message-ID: <3654511D.1FC7@javanet.com> i like meeting people online cause idont like talking, its hard and itmakes my mouth dry especially with pretty girls who i dont know what to say to (and pretty basically means any girl i see) im dreadfully shy its a little easier over the net, i get along ok with people i like, i just dont know how to meet them unless i have something specific to say besides you have the prettiest kindergarten eyes ive seen in today ive made lotsa friends online and i would know nothing bout music without america online message board i posted to for a coupel years the only thing thats hard about having friends online is i dont have any in real life except for my puppy and stuffed moose due to shyness and pickiness so i miss all these peeoplee who ive never met and it makes my tummy feel all funny ok i think thats all, wow a short post whiny i spose as well ----Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Thu Nov 19 17:08:19 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:08:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: They're taking it out on us In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Thanks for your stab. I think that, as you say, B&S songs have no single interpretation, which is what makes me so curious about their possible meanings. That "Me and the Major" is particularly perplexing, at times it seems to be about some consertative control freak who wants him to join the army, but this so called conservative also "remembers Roxy Music", which throws me for a loop. And the pictures are another puzzle for me. The on on the cover of TBWTAS, that shows some shaggy-haired guy being prodded with a riding crop, what's that all about? more questions later. Ciao! http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vanessa.figueras at xxx.se Thu Nov 19 17:54:33 1998 From: vanessa.figueras at xxx.se (Vanessa Figueras) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:54:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: birthdays References: <19981119141349.12696.qmail@www0k.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: <36545B58.BBC97E96@swipnet.se> yay we rule!! Kung Fu Faker wrote: > I know there are a lot of Sagittarian babies on this list. C'mon fess up, it's > the coolest zodiac sign (okay, that's debatable)! > > ____________________________________________________________________ > Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 17:58:30 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:58:30 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Nobility Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C65@COR-EXG1> ~ >Cheese vs.Giraffe >What does cheese have? Mould? And handy little holes you can hide things in, and you don't have to be thirty feet tall to reach it. You can also keep it in your fridge - when was the last time you saw a Giraffe in your fridge ??? Cheese wins every time...I still hate it though. ~ Two list crush votes - you sad twats. ~ PJM wrote : If we must have a new Duke, my vote goes to shy retiring Keith Watson. Haha, my first mail of the day was from a certain Alistair Fitchett. He asked me how the list was going and I said it had gone a bit pooey of late. And then I read all my digests and its been one of the funniest days in quite some time. You can all give yourselves a pat on the back and have some Skittles, but don't touch the red ones or there'll be hell to pay. As for new nobility on the list I am inclined to agree with Miller and say that Keith Watson, despite not having much to say lately, he got de knowledge. ~ Poverina wrote : Oh, is that another grey hair I spy among the reddish brown ones? GINGER BEACON !!! I tell you they're taking over the world. ~ Michelle Wagner "used to work with a sweet, dumb woman named Giuseppina -- she was in her 50's and loved Rock Hudson to distraction. "What a MAN!" she'd say" mmmm....not too dumb then ? ~ Lastly can I just wish Kevan Cooke all the best in his Pop Subbuteo World Cup. I hope there are no problems with player registration when it comes to Mr Donovan. Are there any tickets left for your games ??? I used to own an Exeter City FC subbuteo team. There's nothing funny about it, I just thought I'd let you know. ~ Good Evening to you all. Ev. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rwjf1 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 18:08:20 1998 From: rwjf1 at xxx.uk (Robert Fisk) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:08:20 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Nobility In-Reply-To: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C65@COR-EXG1> Message-ID: Cheese v. giraffes I would go with the giraffe option because here where I live we don't have a fridge or an oven. ---------------------- Robert Fisk rwjf1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Thu Nov 19 18:06:06 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:06:06 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Backshots, Dobbers and Donkey Pants! References: <19981119161129.17917.qmail@www08.netaddress.usa.net> Message-ID: <36545E0E.4EA5304C@itl.ca> Kung Fu Faker wrote: > Frank Yang wrote: > > >B&S content - I'm lending both IYFS and TBWTAS to a friend of a friend >whom > I have a crush on. How's that for devotion? I just hope I get >them back > eventually.. > > What?! Just earlier today I decided that you are my list crush of the > week--don't go breaking my heart now. ;) > curses. Well for what it's worth, it's probably hopeless and I'll never get my CDs back. Mm, how about another list crush poll? This week? I could use the affirmation... -- Frank Yang "Oh, yeah, what are you gonna do? Release the dogs? Or the bees? Or the dogs with bees in their mouth and when they bark, they shoot bees at you?" In my CD player: Spiritualized - Lazer Guided Melodies -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From janine at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 18:37:44 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:37:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: since you asked Message-ID: well... since you asked... my birthday is less than one week from today... November 25th! (ahem - for those of you in NYC or willing to travel - quick, Mark, hop on a plane! - I'm having a little get-together in celebration at the rodeo bar in nyc at 27th and 3rd on tues. nov. 24th and you're all invited - all 700+ of you. Come by and buy me a beer. NOT all 700 of you have to buy me a beer, in fact my limit is usually about 3). smut/clothes! - my favorite article of clothing lately is my fuzzy hooded sweatshirt - it has fake fur on the cuffs & hood - those of you who have ever seen me in person know I wear it almost every day... Oh, and I really like my new pink sparkly sunglasses bought after seeing velvet goldmine with anastasia. now, yesterday I was buying yet another tarty fake-fur type little outfit and the salesperson in the store said "Oh I know what you're buying THAT for." Well, what else could I do but wink at her and say "It's for YOU, baby." yes, I really did. dammit I had some more relevant stuff to say but I can't remember now. Did you know that honey is the sweetest naturally occuring substance on the planet? Queen Bee Janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 18:39:45 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:39:45 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: joke Message-ID: On the subject of rhyming purple, here is a joke: What colour is a hiccup? Burple. HA HA HA! I've just sent in my entry, it is the first poem I've written in ages. I think we should do more. How about writing limericks to do with cheese and giraffes? There was a giraffe called Denise, Who sat on a big piece of cheese. She said "oh by gum", It's gone up my bum. I should have worn dungerees. I'm sure you can do better than me. Happy birthday Kristie! bye! Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jbrent at xxx.ca Thu Nov 19 20:59:53 1998 From: jbrent at xxx.ca (Jason Brent) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:59:53 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Question Of Annoyance Message-ID: <365486C8.66957DCB@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> Hello Everyone! I have a question for all the people on the left side of the pond. I have an English friend here, who is huge into soccer! (football) Anyways, he has all this Arsenal stuff, shirts, scarfs, blah blah... and he says that they are the true team of the working class! (how someone with both parents who are doctors, fits into the "working class" is beyond me!) My question is, I want to get a shirt of a team that represents everything Arsenal supposedly isn't. Snooty, posh, whatever, just to piss him off. I'd love to see the look on his face when I turn up all decked out in the enemy's colors, especially since I know NOTHING about soccer, and I stumbled upon everything he is passionately against! Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated! On another note, does anyone know who distributes non Matador B&S stuff in Canada? Hope you are all having a great day! Jay In my cd player: The Crabs What Were Flames Now Smolder +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 19:09:37 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:09:37 -0000 Subject: Sinister: jamie theakston huele In-Reply-To: <365150AC.A4A7E75F@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Message-ID: <000201be13f0$26a85f40$584d989e@elsato97> Ooh! My knees hurt. I was walking to college today, and as I crossed the road and tried to mount the pavement on the other side, I kind of, um, missed it, and fell over in the gutter. I laughed but my knees hurt and I was pissed off until I got to my Spanish lesson, where I learnt the Spanish for YOU SMELL. Which cheered me up. La gente que no gusta este lista, HUELES. DE MIERDA. Hoho! There you go, yes I can pass my Spanish A-level!! Yey! Marco wrote: > i am 24 and i only now i have discover the GUINNES. > I love this black beer , the froth of it is like a cream. > So now i have another vice , but a beautiful vice OOh how can words describe how much I think I adore Marco at this moment in time! YES! Guiness is the tipple of ye gods, apart from I have to say Caffreys (my dad says Caffreys is a girlie drink but I don't care, I AM a girl!!!), and whiskey. Oh yes I like whiskey. It's nice, very nice! I wish I could have described Guiness froth as being like 'the froth of a cream'.....Marco you are a man of resplendent taste and I salute you. If you ever are in the north west of england I shall buy you a pint of Guiness! I throughly recommend any listees to seek out POR QUE TE VAS by Jeanette, I recieved my tape yesterday! It was re-routed through Cornwall...I don't know why....it just was... and also - would nayone like to form a band with me? The only requrement is a willing-ness to dance LA YENKA. YEAH! Hmph. Honey has got more votes than me, well....urrrr....I don't care!!! I graciously pass my list crush prize sash to HoneyPaul and give him a bouquet of flowers, but I'm keeping my pretty frock and tiara. Honey already probably has too many... I don't believe I fell in the gutter today. I didn't think of it like that first of all, but it's probably deeply symbolic of MY FUTURE.... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 18:01:22 1998 From: stray4f at xxx.com (3) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:01:22 -0400 Subject: Sinister: Oops, I almost forgot Message-ID: <199811191904.OAA120098@pimout4-int.prodigy.net> ---------- >From: Mick McMick Then this past US tour they >debuted an R.E.M. cover of some sort. Forget the title. It was "Don't Go Back to Rockville" from the album 'Reckoning" which they worked up at the soundcheck in Athens but didn't play during the actual show. When and where did they play "Reel Around the Fountain?" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trarvild at xxx.se Thu Nov 19 19:24:33 1998 From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:24:33 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&Ss lost funny litle dool found and lost again Message-ID: <199811191926.UAA19946@mb07.swip.net> Urghhhh hmpppff uf It is this writing in english thing.They told me aboutitin school some years ago. OH No good start. I was some days ago a colapsed ,matlab and/or your computer will crash, student. It's like that for me somtimes when I have had to hard test in school. ( And still I read mathematics and physics because it is fun). Then I, halfded, found and sucided in subscribe to this mailing list of "nice" persons whit good music tast. And you gave mee back my happines inlife so I can fly arounthe university of Göteborg like an irritatingly happy ray of sunlight. THANK YOU ALL LOVELY ONES ON THIS LIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now I have had my first dream of B&S this night and this was oneof those strong dreams I just can't forget so I tell you about it and see if it gives some reaktion: Göteborgis a city by the cost and I was wlking on the cliffs bythewater when I found a wet doll that the sea brought up ther in fron of my feets like a letter in a bttle. I pick it up and fall in love in this looking homemade funny litle doll so Itook her home and dry her and found in her dress apiace of paper. It washardto read it because of the water and I cant remember exactly what it said butitwas a lovely poem aboutthat the doll belonged to Belle andSebastian and someone had drawn seagullson the paper. For some dihonest secounds I wanted to ignor this faktand keep the funny doll as mine (I'm sorry but i liked her) but then I desided to do the right thing and write them a letter thatI hade found their doll next day. So when I woke up this morning I was onmy way to get the funnylittel doll and a pennand paper to write the letter when I slowly realised thatit only had been a dream. And I feelt a bit sad because I still like that funny litle doll. So if anyone seen her or if she comes to your dream some night or if you no if anyone in theB&S band ever lost ad oll like that in a dream please let me now. I interested in whathappened to her and do care for dreamslike this one when they comes to me. And ifyou must you now can think I'm an idiot becauseof this butif you do let me know I hatewhen people sneaking behind my back. And now I have never met anyone ever who have even heard about B&S and myfriends know that they hate B&S after I playd some lovly music for them as a thanks for beeing good friends and this situation is what I calls beeing lonely. SO IF ANYONE IN OR NEAR GÖTEBORG READS THIS I WANTYOU TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE VERY WELCOME TO MAIL TO ME. trarvild at swipnet.se Have a nice something for this time Katta +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Blissxo at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 19:30:59 1998 From: Blissxo at xxx.com (Blissxo at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:30:59 EST Subject: Sinister: Kissing with confidence Message-ID: <51c239fe.365471f3@aol.com> In a message dated 11/19/98 8:49:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, MctaggartR at Vectratech.com writes: > Sad news - Saint Lucy has left the list, in a fit of pique at not getting > any more crush votes after the recount, but she was impressed by all the > mail she got. "My box has never seen so much activity", she said, > contendedly. i'm sure her box has been quite busy since that poll. oooooh. you know someone had to say it. truly, jessicaxo smut content: yes +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From electricsexmessiah at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 19:33:16 1998 From: electricsexmessiah at xxx.com (Donkers Hoddlesnoot) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:33:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Coitus the Barbarian Message-ID: <19981119193316.5456.rocketmail@send206.yahoomail.com> Sad news - Saint Lucy has left the list, in a fit of pique at not getting any more crush votes after the recount, but she was impressed by all the mail she got. "My box has never seen so much activity", she said, contendedly. She thanks her admirers, particularly "Electric sex warrior" and "Ihaveahugepenis", and would like to point out that she does not live in Govan. Anyway, she's off to star with La Cicciolina in "Flasher John - the movie". That's "MESSIAH" buddy no common sex soldier am I but the saviour of smut lord of the thighs squeezer of lemons. With my potency ye shall be healed. And think all this and not one list crush vote. _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Thu Nov 19 19:36:21 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:36:21 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Kissing with confidence References: <51c239fe.365471f3@aol.com> Message-ID: <36547335.8D842A92@itl.ca> Blissxo at aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 11/19/98 8:49:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, > MctaggartR at Vectratech.com writes: > > > Sad news - Saint Lucy has left the list, in a fit of pique at not getting > > any more crush votes after the recount, but she was impressed by all the > > mail she got. "My box has never seen so much activity", she said, > > contendedly. > > i'm sure her box has been quite busy since that poll. > > oooooh. you know someone had to say it. > > truly, > jessicaxo > smut content: yes The smut bar has just been raised to a new level. I think Jessica now has the crown for dirtiest sexual innuendo. Congratulations. Any challengers? And everyone thought Canadians were such nice people. -- Frank Yang Inflicted on the world on May 11, 1975. "Mmmm...Sacrelicious!" In my CD player: Dinosaur Jr - Where You Been -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Thu Nov 19 18:53:47 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:53:47 +-100 Subject: Sinister: A guy who?s 19.... Message-ID: <01BE13FC.808A82C0@Abonado-195-53-36-47.cat.es> ...... But I?m gonna be 20 the 30 of january . I see that there is a lot of sinisterines of this month, along with our appreciated Stevie Jackson (the 16 he?s gonna be 30). Calumn Shearer wrote: "David Holmes' "Essential Mix." - Fan-bloody-tastic. why?, I hear you say, would anyone of taste and sophistication want to listen to a Radio 1 (so called) "Essential Mix"? " Mr. David Holmes was going to play as a DJ at the last Benicassim Festival, but he couldn?t, and all the rumours pointed at a possibly excess of wine. Real sophistication. Evan Wrote "i like meeting people online cause idont like talking, its hard and itmakes my mouth dry especially with pretty girls who i dont know what to say to (and pretty basically means any girl i see) im dreadfully shy its a little easier over the net, i get along ok with people i like, i just dont know how to meet them unless i have something specific to say besides you have the prettiest kindergarten eyes ive seen in today...." Completely agree. I can?t say anything else. Finally, can anyone tell me if the Field Mice compilation is going to be released in Spain ? Jordi, a guy who?s 19...... and left handed. begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(@(3`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`$P!```!````# ````,``# "````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```'0`````````M3O"P"QW$!JAO @`*RI6PA4```!K%TNW-$O2$;$'1$53 M5 ``1( ```````"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'-I;FES=&5R(&UA:6QI M;F<@;&ES= !33510`'-I;FES=&5R0'!H+F5D+F%C+G5K`!X``C !````!0`` M`%--5% `````'@`#, $````5`````!X,`0````4```!33510`````!X`'PP!````'0```# R.3$Y-#)A M,#% 86)O;F%D;W,N8W!L=7,N97,``````P`&$ D=N+P#``<0FP,``!X`"! ! 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ihaveahugepenis at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 19:40:53 1998 From: ihaveahugepenis at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:40:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: my so called trousers Message-ID: <19981119194053.21025.rocketmail@send205.yahoomail.com> It's true. _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Thu Nov 19 19:42:02 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:42:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Kissing with confidence References: <51c239fe.365471f3@aol.com> <36547335.8D842A92@itl.ca> Message-ID: <3654748A.C8B6A5DB@itl.ca> Dammit. Sorry about the digital encoding. I keep forgetting to turn it off. Hmm, that last statement could be construed as smutty, I think. Frank "Get your mind out of the gutter, there's not enough room down here for all of us." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From louise at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 03:53:16 1998 From: louise at xxx.uk (Louise Davies) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:53:16 -0800 Subject: Sinister: F.a.o. New York listees Message-ID: <004401be1439$4e89d5e0$a42b883e@computer> hi there! I'm going to be in New York next week (tue-fri) and wondered if there's anything happening that I should check out: bars, clubs, gigs, shops, etc. I've never been before and am wetting my pants with excitement! Cheers Louise +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 19:59:33 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 11:59:33 PST Subject: Sinister: F.a.o. New York listees Message-ID: <19981119195933.18938.qmail@hotmail.com> you could probably meet a bunch of us at queen bee janine's birthday extravaganza, tuesday the 24th........ > >hi there! > >I'm going to be in New York next week (tue-fri) and wondered if there's >anything happening that I should check out: bars, clubs, gigs, shops, etc. > >I've never been before and am wetting my pants with excitement! > >Cheers > >Louise > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geek_girl at xxx.net Thu Nov 19 20:05:36 1998 From: geek_girl at xxx.net (Kung Fu Faker) Date: 19 Nov 98 15:05:36 EST Subject: Sinister: since you asked Message-ID: <19981119200536.18819.qmail@www0g.netaddress.usa.net> The Queen Bee wrote: <> Wow, November 25th is my birthday too. Sagittarians unite! ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Thu Nov 19 19:44:47 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:44:47 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Backshots, Dobbers and Donkey Pants! In-Reply-To: <01be132d$4bcc7860$LocalHost@itjfvkli> References: <01be132d$4bcc7860$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Message-ID: <199811191444470080.055BB2F7@204.96.36.40> I think Carmen will eventually go on to become the darling of British >athletics? *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/18/98, at 3:10 PM, PJMiller wrote: >As the festive season is a mere stoned throw away, I thought I'd be >the first to ask a question that we're all familiar with at this time >of year - What annuals are you getting? I'm hoping for WARLORD and CUB >SCOUTS' DINKLES. I was reminded of annuals by a strange turn of >affairs in the record industry. I've noticed that more and more "box >sets" are in fact annual sets, in so far as they open up like a book, >and the cover is made of the same stuff annuals are made out of. Pop >groups used to have annuals in the seventies, groups like The Osmonds >and The Bay City Rollers. Belle and Sebastian could revive this great >tradition. Hop to it, Jeepster! I'd be more than happy to write it for >a moderately huge sum of money. > >I think Carmen will eventually go on to become the darling of British >athletics, as my Dad used to say about Zola Budd. I do feel that >Carmen's original cry in the wilderness contained more than a grain of >truth. Perhaps we should modify our technique. Instead of counting to >ten, we could count to twelve, and instead of thinking of Sir Cliff, >we could think about plain old Cliff in the seventies, enjoying a nude >romp with tennis ace Sue Barker in a barn somewhere, as reported in >the super soaraway Sun, way back when. That way, we will get less >"thoughtless" posts and a damn sight more smut. > >At the same time, please feel free to have the odd slanging match. I >don't bother reading them anymore, but I do so enjoy Paul's >pitch-perfect impersonation of Mister Barraclough from "Porridge". > >By the way, I also have problems with Frank Yang's weird coded >messages. Fortunately someone quoted one the other day, enabling me to >nick a great idea. > >Night night Mister Barraclough, night night Fletch. > >Lenny Godber > >In my CD player: CD 1 of the Booker T and the MGs annual set . CD 3 >features Boz Scaggs. Sounds like something you have to go to the vet >with. Have Splat and Pish had their Boz Scaggs jabs yet? >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Thu Nov 19 20:00:22 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:00:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S on NPR In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <199811191500220070.0569F7BD@204.96.36.40> I heard it too! I freaked out! I definately wasn't expecting that! They talked a lot about "Seymour Stein" (which I think is the least strongest song on the entire ablum) and the whole menaing of it, which I found unnecessary. It was kinda bad. It was the same as all the others: They sound like Morrissey/Smiths, their following is like the following the Smiths had. There weren't any outstanding quote to relate back. It was basically the same as another thing on them. What else did they play? I forgot. I'll tell later. I wrote them down. There were only 3 songs and they were far from the best off the album. Disappointing, yet very exciting. that was the first mention or music Of B&S I have ever heard on the radio, too. ...CARMEN... *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 11/18/98, at 8:32 PM, Hooded Child (#47) wrote: >ALL: > >Although up until now i have found it imperative to remain a silent >observer of this list I have decided to write to wonder if anyone (else) >heard the review of The Boy on NPR's "All Things Considered" earlier this >evening. They basically just talked about the unavailability of Tigermilk, >the U.S. tour and The progress B&S have made with this album. It also >compared B&S to The Smiths by using a quote from Mr. Morrissey that had >something to do with Music too precious something something something... >that Mr. M had made in reference to The Smiths and which the reviewer >found apllicable to B&S...If anyone heard this while not working in a loud >resturant (as I was) I would be interested to know what exactly that quote >and any other impressions of the NPR review. >Finally I hear Belle and Sabastian on the radio, even if it had to be >Public Radio....Plus +++++ > > Good Bye Now. > > > Jonathan.................................. > >P.S. From what I have read so far, you al seem to be quite agreeable >folks, If I may chance saying it............. > > > >---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------1 >---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------2 >---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------3 >----------------------------------six months is a long time---------------- >---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------4 >---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------5 >---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------6 >---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------7 >---------six months is a long time----------------------------------------8 > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snyderd at xxx.edu Thu Nov 19 20:27:50 1998 From: snyderd at xxx.edu (Dave Snyder) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:27:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: video compilation Message-ID: Hi, Could the Jeepster folks let us know when a video compilation will be available for sale? It would seem it is difficult to see the videos otherwise. Thanks! ************************************************************************** *Dave Snyder******514 E. Ann St. #5 Ann Arbor MI 48104******(734)741-9708* **************snyderd at umich.edu**http://www.umich.edu/~snyderd************ ....didn't i say feelings were the last things to make themselves felt?... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 21:02:45 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 16:02:45 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S on NPR References: <199811191500220070.0569F7BD@204.96.36.40> Message-ID: <3654876A.1165@javanet.com> npr pisses me off first theres the music clips betwen segments which are never credited then there's teri grosss which is bad enough, she is sooo friggin dumb andd aannoying grrr but what i really cant stand is when they review a record that they like, example" rem-up claimed it was one of the greatest pop albums of teh decade or soemthing like that, i screamed at my radio for at least 10 minutes how many fucking pop albums do you think that old man listens to? howabout any elephant 6 album, B&S of course, i could list forever its one thing to say its a good album (not that i will ever say that about anything with stipey singing on) but one of the best in teh decade my arse raaaawr i hate lists soo much or anything approaching lists like thaat ok well i gues sthats enough of a tirade against npr, they expose old people to good music but their interviews are so degrading at times, they're a buncha stuffy old people trying to seem open minded no offense to old people on the list by any means its just these older people on npr ----Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dove_volare at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 21:06:09 1998 From: dove_volare at xxx.com (yellow submarine) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:06:09 PST Subject: Sinister: evanbear Message-ID: <19981119210609.17697.qmail@hotmail.com> Ohh, evanbear sounds just like me...his lovely little whine has turned my cheeks pink *sigh*. too bad i missed voting for any crush-list. to console you though, i'm sure most of the listees are shy little creatures who sit alone in their rooms with their pets (i have two little nellies *kitties* myself) and their stuffed animals. i sit with my lamb. she has big pink lips that everyone tries to tell me is really just her little lamby nose. a little big bear hug to ~~evanbear~~ xo xo me ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com> Thu Nov 19 21:20:33 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com> (kellym at xxx.com>) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 13:20:33 -0800 Subject: Sinister: three am light strikes twice pepsi adventure and cravings i dont understand Message-ID: <199811192123.NAA13517@macbeth.ienet.com> First of, how delicious are salt and vinegar chips? I'm a little crack addict with these things as of late. Does anyone know of any metadone-like substance that is particularly affective at kicking the salt and vinegar habit? Cos things are getting out of hand. Maybe a sinister intervention is in order? Perhaps ABC could make a made for TV movie about a pop-mailing list that saves a salt and vinegar addict from certain demise. I don't know who would play me though. Maybe Tori Spelling could play one of you kids and they could give it a cool title like "Mommy, May I Sleep With Danger? But then again, that one's already been done and it wouldn't make any sense. Secondly, I'm coming to London on the 26th of December and am thus far unable to find accomodations. I would ask to see if someone could put me up but I'm coming for 7 days and I don't want to be a scourge on anyone. So could someone perhaps suggest a cheap place to stay that might still have space left around this time? Also, is the Brighton meet up still on for the 28th? I'd really like to meet some of you kids while I'm there, so if you live in London and anticipate having some time in between Christmas and New Years, please e-mail me for I will be all alone and I don't want to spend seven days alone in a pub. Well, maybe the second part of that is true, but the alone part doesn't sound like too much fun. OK, I'm gonna go curl up in a ball under my desk with a bag of chips and take a little nap. I so sleepy. -Kelly Ryan McGuire kellym at raygun.com "it seems strange getting over you when all i loved, when all i might have loved, could have been the things i wrapped around you." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 22:11:00 1998 From: peter at xxx.uk (Peter Brittain) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:11:00 -0000 Subject: Sinister: My first post. Message-ID: <00da01be1409$d97c0f40$b022883e@default> Hello! This is my first post. Umm. I expect I'm the only one here that apart from Belle and Sebastian, also likes Mogwai, Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, and just about everything else on Warp and chemikal underground recordings? I kinda have unusual music tastes. Techno and Belle and Sebastian aren't very similar! Oh, by the way after about two messages I always descend into lurkerdom on mailing lists. I can't help it, I just do... 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URL: From t.vlassopoulos at xxx.ca Thu Nov 19 17:55:03 1998 From: t.vlassopoulos at xxx.ca (t.vlassopoulos at xxx.ca) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:55:03 -0500 () Subject: Sinister: ned flanders is a leftie In-Reply-To: <913489f0.3653995e@aol.com> Message-ID: why hello there... so guess what? i'm a leftie tooooo -- we're all coming out of the woodwork now, aren't we? i'm not sure what it all means, but if you tell me left handers are influential and good in the sack, then i'll wholeheartedly agree. oh yeah, baby.. *sly smile* i had a dream about the sinister list two nights ago. is that good or bad? it involved email and crushes and boy, was it *smutty*.. birthdays birthdays, what a nice idea. mine is on april 13th. i was born on a friday too so it was, erm, Friday the 13th. but, it was also Good Friday so I like to think that the two cancel each other out, even though 13 is a lucky number for me. So who's going to volounteer to compile everyone's holy day? gee, i feel so inarticulate today.. teri xx --- now, we all know to reply to vlass at interlog.com, right? i don't regularly check this email account.. you'll also remember to look at my website, i'm sure: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ --- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geek_girl at xxx.net Thu Nov 19 20:28:57 1998 From: geek_girl at xxx.net (Kung Fu Faker) Date: 19 Nov 98 15:28:57 EST Subject: Sinister: My first post. (and Mogwai) Message-ID: <19981119202857.18204.qmail@www0s.netaddress.usa.net> Someone who is not really Chris Brittain wrote: Bruce Lee Wrote: >Wow, November 25th is my birthday too. Sagittarians unite! I'm not 19 years old, I'm not left-handed..but i'm Sagi. We rule the school, we rule the world. February and March..so much to answer for. 1,2,3 Wrote: >It was "Don't Go Back to Rockville" from the album 'Reckoning" which they >worked up at the soundcheck in Athens but didn't play during the actual >show. When and where did they play "Reel Around the Fountain?" Wow Reel Around the Fountain ? I listened to the new Ep on Jeepster site (oh God, i had to put October in my computer cause the f*** Liquid Audio "said" i have to update the player, but i'm lazy) NICE SONGS !! REALLY GREAT SONGS ! Ivo A P Escossia, December,15 NP: Brideshead - "Leaf h" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 22:36:29 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:36:29 -0500 Subject: Sinister: evanbear Message-ID: <36549D52.37DE@javanet.com> gooo (just a noise i make nothing vulgar) cue cheeks of pomegranate red i figgered there would be other shy boys and girl sitting in the corner of their rooms on here, thats why i joined my moose named mainerd only has one eyebrow, the other one is in seattle in a youth hostile type place along with my old alarm clock as for my puppy she's cheweing on a bone right now, holding it betweeen her paws like an otter, occaisonally hitting me with her paw she likes it when i make her squeaky mr potato head dance, esp when i push in its nose and pop it out again ::friendly bear hug in return:: ----Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" http://www.angelfire.com/ma/dixiecluck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 22:47:57 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 14:47:57 PST Subject: Sinister: My first post. (and Mogwai) Message-ID: <19981119224757.690.qmail@hotmail.com> Any listees attending the Mogwai >gigs at Brownie's in NYC later this month? i should be there..... lorraine not sure which day tho ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From paul.field at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 22:53:56 1998 From: paul.field at xxx.com (Paul Field) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:53:56 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Cuddly fluffy bunnies & chocolate G-strings Message-ID: <01BE140F.7DE558C0.paul.field@cmgplc.com> yep, once again I have something to say after what seems like years to me and probably seems like seconds to everyone else. The only problem is it will bore most of you rigid. Tough shit! I didn't mean that, Im nice really. I'm actually drunk, and Ive so far spent about an hour trying to write this, but I keep hitting the wrong keys. I need to sleep, but first my poit. No, first my point: Jay wrote: My question is, I want to get a shirt of a team that represents everything Arsenal supposedly isn't. Snooty, posh, whatever, just to piss him off. I'd love to see the look on his face when I turn up all decked out in the enemy's colors, especially since I know NOTHING about soccer, and I stumbled upon everything he is passionately against! Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Well, without a doubt the best shirt to wear to piss off an Arsenal fan is a Spurs (Tottenham Hotspur) shirt. Now these are not especially snooty or posh, but they are big rivals of Arse-nal (haha very funny, I bet nobody has made that joke before). They both come from north London. A slight aside - do American sport fans also hate local teams outside of their own. Is there such a thing as a local team in America. If you want rockard working class though you can't go far wrong with a Boro (Middlesbrough) shirt. You can't even buy one outside of Middlesbrough though, so it may be a bit iver the top to come over here. I could send you one! Sorry, sorry, sorry. I'm being very dull, but I'm pissed and I've been talking fitba all night. Anyway, most people are boring when pissed. I'm no exception. I'm thinking of deleting this, but bolox, I'm rock hard and I've hard a drink, so don't fuckin mess wi me, ok? Humbly, Paul. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 23:01:12 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:01:12 -0500 Subject: Sinister: My first post. References: <00da01be1409$d97c0f40$b022883e@default> Message-ID: <3654A318.5435@javanet.com> i love mogwai, dont have any real opinion on aphex twin i dont like much techno closest i come is Devo, Sky Cries Mary, mogwai as i said but i dont like those remixes, um hell thats all i can think of but im surethere's more stufff that resembles techno in some way ohb trembling blkue stars but i dont like when they go techno its silly ill think of more im sure, as for whether ill post em i dunno ---Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" http://www.angelfire.com/ma/dixiecluck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 23:08:31 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:08:31 EST Subject: Sinister: Bus Stop Chat Message-ID: <8201a0c8.3654a4ef@aol.com> Hiya everyone. I just stumbled on the fabulous BusStop website at buschat.htm at www.catharton.com Im assuming that this site is no longer run.?? and that the fanzine does not exist ?? How cool is it, that there is a BUSSTOP chat room !! I invited a friend into the room and we had a fabulous chat, with subjects ranging from our local service, to the introduction of more and more single decker buses with pram space. Everyone must also have a story about somebody puking up at the back of a bus on a Saturday evening at 11pm. We reministed alot, and had a fabulous time. Just thought i would share that with you. :o)) Take it easy Jamie +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Nanettee at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 23:18:07 1998 From: Nanettee at xxx.com (Nanettee at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 18:18:07 EST Subject: Sinister: Birthday list!! Message-ID: <1f833c52.3654a72f@aol.com> Okay, here's the deal...I've started compiling the birthday list. If you're interested in having your name placed on the list, please email me privately (not the list!!! please!!!) at nanettee at aol.com and let me know. Be sure to sign your name so I know who you are...a couple of people who contacted me didn't sign their names so I couldn't add them to the list. : ( I'll post the list sometime next week. Please, I beg you, please do not send birthday greetings to the list! Send them to the birthday person!! Otherwise, we'll end up with a ton of posts to wade through every day... thanks all! and enjoy... xo love nanette! *who doesn't get another birthday until july, bah!* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 01:03:51 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1998 17:03:51 -0800 Subject: Sinister: "let's sing our song of protest!! ..."Up-town guuurlll'..." Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0331A413@amerwksnt01.xil.com> The list is suspiciously quiet as of late. hmmm..... is there some smooove luvin going on? has everyone else figured out who's their crush and gone down to the basement for a big make out party? If not, here's a suggestion to move things along... Big Stu should be allowed to reveal the secret admirers to each other, if the same two people voted for each other, yeah? I would be perty darn pleased with my votes (to whoever you are, you can LOOK sugar but you can't touch! I'm not *that* easy. At least not without going to dinner somewhere really nice first... though lots of alcohol would work too...okay, I'll settle for a bottle of Stoli in front of Taco bell, ta?) but alas, a recent domestic drama has preoccupied all my thoughts. It involves my wee fluffy kitten covered in stinky Nair hair-removal stuff and the subsequent effort to save her from a lifetime of kitty pattern-baldness.... she's ok now I think, but the feeling of horror still lingers!! Anastasia said about Seymour Stein: <> A friend of mine said that he's fairly cool for being a scummy corporate label type dude... Seymour helped bring us bands like the Ramones, Smiths, Echo and the Bunnymen, DM, The Pretenders, yada yada yada... So maybe he wasn't right for B&S but it's different than if he were jumping on the bandwagon, like, RIGHT NOW, all "wow!! you guys are kooky! how'd you like to open for Limp Bizkit?" or whatever. Maybe he did do that, I don't know. Oh and the "is a cricket not unfair" video is #1 in Streamland's top 20. B&S even beat Scary Mary Manson and a bunch of other likewise tuff and poorly-dressed types. The headline says "Belle and Sebastian knock Manson Down a Notch" which is a pretty amusing picture if you think about it..... tata, daisy berkowitz +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 23:35:56 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:35:56 GMT Subject: Sinister: the "master" forger Message-ID: <3655aadc.12703795@post.demon.co.uk> Oh hilarious... "Robert McTaggart" wrote "It's true." Just in case anyone was wondering, I kind of feel obliged to point out that the above *is* a fake and bragging about my anatomy is really not my style. love tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From barzy at xxx.com Thu Nov 19 23:44:04 1998 From: barzy at xxx.com (Madame Cholet) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 15:44:04 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Acid House Message-ID: >>Friends >> >>My flatmate went to see the Acid House last night because he's a pal of >>one of the actors in it who I knew at Uni. >>Turns out Slow Graffiti is his song! When the music is playing in the >>film it's accompanying pictures of Kev. He's lovely - couldn't happen to >>a nicer guy! >> >>JJ YOUR FLATMATE KNOWS KEVIN McKIDD????? WOW! I'm impressed. *swoon* He's sooo great in this bit..it's a part made for him...I won't give too much away, but that Slow Graffiti part is just heartwrenching...really sad. Wow. beth +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 20 00:07:14 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azriel) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:07:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: birthdays Message-ID: i'll be celebrating the end of my teen years this coming saturday (the 21st). do you guys have any ideas what i could do that would be horribly teenagerish from now until midnight tomorrow night? -kerry "the best looking boys are taken the best looking girls are staying inside." -belle and sebastian, "judy and the dream of horses." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Fri Nov 20 01:00:16 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (keith m) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:00:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: not b&s but he is from glasgow Message-ID: <3654BF1F.FD596F3F@bignet.net> in the review of the acid house soundtrack on nme belle and sebastian is not even mentioned. hello i was wondering is anyone here a fan of long fin killie and if you are has anyone read luke sutherland's book and if you have could you tell me if it is worth ordering on import? he is one of my heroes, he is so articulate and fantastically exciting(my friend andrew and i cornered him the first time we saw LFK for a half-hour and he wore us out) and well i think i probably will end up ordering the book anyhow especially since maybe it will be released here since it has been nominated for a whitbread award(are these prestigious?). i am really looking forward to his new music project bows(stuart from mogwai, among others, played on it). thanks keith mcl also might anyone know when the new pearlfishers record might see the light of day? or that record duglas bmx bandit and one of the pearlfishers is putting together of cover versions of brian, carl and dennis wilson songs? too shy to add anything interesting to the list and also of the opinion that desserter's songs is only the third best mercury rev record behind 'see you...' and of course 'yerself is steam'. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 01:54:46 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 17:54:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: your life to live Message-ID: <19981120015446.20325.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Is anyone else on the list into the Secret Stars? They're a local (Boston) band I've just rediscovered. Their first album, which is self-titled, is available on Shrimper (from CA) and I think a lot of B&S fans would probably like it. A guy and a a girl and very very quiet, sad, wintry songs. Good snow day music. Check it out. aaron === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil I go, you stay-- two autumns. _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 02:45:11 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 21:45:11 -0500 Subject: Sinister: your life to live References: <19981120015446.20325.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com> Message-ID: <3654D7B2.2E91@javanet.com> i mentioned them in one of my first posts, im very much into them caught them in teh basement of a dorm on the Smith College Campus with Sarah Daughter from The Lookers who put on a rather dull set her and the drummer from the same band and a couple other bands Secret Stars are amazing live very relaxed esp in this setting where everuone was sitting down intill a SLOP (Stupid Little Obnoxious Punker) decided it would be lotsa fun to stand up in the middle of the tiny room in front of about 20 people (GO PUNKERS YOU ARE SOOOO COOOL!!!) and destroyed the tranquility (i see that guy around town all the time and i want to trip him or throw coffe at him or somethingg but hes bigger than me and im too nice to do anything like that anyway (no really i am)) their best song besies whats on Genealogies (the 2nd album) is on a 7" they put out it has one one side Nightingale which is a fun girl punk song (not annoying at all) and RPMs which is a beautiful song has anyone heard Geoff Farina's solo record that came out this year? one of the prettiest of the year his geetar playing is very soft an drelaxed and pretty (i used that word too many times i know but it fits so well) and his voice despite his looking like a very normal boston boy is very sweet and wussboy sounding his other band Karate is abit different their new album is pretty good, the lyrics arent as good as secret stars or his solo but the playing is very tight, its more indie blues rock type stuff their self titled album that i have is pretty loose at not an easy listen for the first few time sbut great ok i think thats eeverytthing i know about them ----Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" http://www.angelfire.com/ma/dixiecluck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 01:52:50 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 20:52:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: I'm NEVER lucid! Message-ID: <3654CB72.AE50DA34@bigfoot.com> Now, look...I've been more than patient with you people. I've sat around, twiddling my thumbs, whistling a happy tune, waiting for you folks with copies of the Black Sessions to line up, hoping to be the lucky, lucky person who gets to make me a copy. Well, I've given you long enough and I can only assume that it's low self-confidence that's making you think, "Oh, he would want someone much more important than *me* to make that tape for him." It's not true. I want YOU to make me that tape. That's right, YOU. What do I have to offer in return? Aside from an autographed 8x10 glossy, I might have a few things that some of you might be interested in...does the phrase "Reid-length" mean anything to anyone besides Carl? Yow! For those of you who think the above paragraph is obnoxious, here's an alternate: I would appreciate it if anyone could tape the infamous Black Sessions for me. I could look through the old "true" vinyl and those CD's that are destined to be dust and see if there's anything that'd strike your fancy for a trade, and/or I could throw a list-crush vote your way next time around. It wouldn't be fake: you really would be my list crush. Have I sounded pathetic enough yet? Please let me know if I could be more pathetic. I'm sorry if I'm not pathetic enough. You're really too kind for reading this... I've decided to trust Jeepster with my pre-order of the new EP. I guess I just like the image of Katrina and David, clothes torn and hair disheveled, with grateful tears just beginning to stream out of their eyes and my ten bucks (converted) in their hands. "Thank you so much, Reid! You've made this the best holiday ever!" Then I remember reality: the two of them sunning themselves on an Australian beach while I pass the hours at my miserable job (that not coincidentally has *nothing* to do with Belle and Sebastian) staring for the millionth time at the "Lighthouses of North Carolina" poster that's supposed to brighten up (ha!) my workspace. And then I imagine myself buying the EP from a bootlegger. Just kidding...I really will be buying it from Jeepster, and I'm proud of it. "Directly from the source!" I always say. Actually, that was the first time I said it, but I plan on saying it more often. By the way, I asked Mr. Kitchen (I'm trying to show more respect) how long he guessed it would take for said EP to get to the US, and he said between a couple days and a couple weeks, which is good enough for me. Those of you who live in cities that have good import-ordering places can now feel smug. By the way, a quick hello to my friend Susan who joined the list. Everybody: "HELLO, SUSAN!" That makes three good friends of mine on the list. My plans for list domination are all coming together very nicely. The coup's planned for Tuesday. Act surprised. Speaking of plans, here's a plan for everyone to become more understanding of each other: Digesters become regular listees and vice versa. That way, regulars can see how annoying it is when that HTML code pops up at the end and when the original message is quoted in a reply. And digesters can see how annoying it is when insigficant, one-sentence wisecracks clog up your mailbox. See? It's a foolproof plan for peace and harmony. It'll start with the list and spread to the rest of the world. Probably. Yes, you're right: this *is* a long post. Just my little revenge for having to scroll like a madman through my digests for the last couple of days. Wait, that doesn't make any sense...Anyway, I was going to tell a nice little story about my sweetie asking me to tell her a bedtime story, which is really mean, because I'm a rotten story-teller, but Stuart M. is a great story-teller, and so I just recited the lyrics to Modern Rock Song and and I got all teary just *saying* "Now I count three, four and we start to slow because a song has got to stop somewhere," and then said sweetie said she really enjoyed my little "story" (I gave Stuart credit) and so now everytime she asks for a bedtime story, I'm just going to quote B&S songs, remembering to leave out "Seeing Other People". I *was* going to tell you that story, but I'm not going to anymore, 'cause this is already too long. One more thing: Everyone best stop the cracks on NPR, or else I'll come after you with that big metal glove of death that was on last Tuesday's episode of Buffy the Vampire Slayer. Don't make me bring this subject up again. I'll just leave you wide-eyed, watching the door with the covers pulled up to your nose. Hey, how come this post is really long, is pretty off-topic, doesn't contain a complaint about too-few list crush votes and doesn't even quote any other posts? Man, I'm the worst list-member ever! Honey, can you kick me off? I'm gonna start a flame war with myself. On the list. Reid-length, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 03:45:38 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 19:45:38 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981120034539.27828.qmail@hotmail.com> well, well, well, what do we have here: npr, salt and vinegar chips and people bragging about be the size of thier pee-pee's. sounds like my cup of tea(well except for bragging about my pee-pee of course). i can clear the salt and vinegar thing up real quick: bad gas! which brings me to npr. in my long lost days as a pizza boy, i will go ahead and let you know that npr can be your salvation on a sunday night. just try you'll see. and sure they may be old but dammit, they're funny(in a wierd kinda grandma-smells-good way). and if anyone has anything bad to say about Keilor(sp?)well you can just.........go ahead and say it i guess because i'm not that good of a fighter, but dammit if i can't get my goove on when the lights go out. the point? robbie in my c.d. player: larry hagman: "the man, the myth" ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Candyfuzz at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 05:23:35 1998 From: Candyfuzz at xxx.com (Candyfuzz at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:23:35 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: Message-ID: <1e504e4.3654fcd7@aol.com> In a message dated 11/19/98 10:47:53 PM US Eastern Standard Time, wilde77 at hotmail.com writes: << sinister at majordomo.net >> () =Oo oh my goodness what is going on here my ears and eyes cant take this monkey no see monkey no do monkey no say +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Candyfuzz at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 05:36:47 1998 From: Candyfuzz at xxx.com (Candyfuzz at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 00:36:47 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: Message-ID: In a message dated 11/20/98 12:35:07 AM US Eastern Standard Time, brier at pipeline.com writes: << sinister at majordomo.net >> look i didnt write that im sorry sheesh my sister did it its ok +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgj201 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 20 06:18:11 1998 From: jgj201 at xxx.edu (Jason G Juzwiak) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:18:11 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Just saying hi In-Reply-To: <199811192227.WAA15874@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hey kids. Got a story for ya. Two days ago, after a particularly dreary Muslim Europe lecture, I decided to go to Tower Records and peruse the racks in order to cheer myself up. I certainly was not going to buy anything, for I only had 20 bucks in my wallet,and, after all, a boy's gotta eat, ya know? Still, I wandered the aisles in search of nothing, and came across the listening station at the back of the store. One of the titles was "The Boy With the Arab Strap," by B&S. I had read about B&S in many alternative publications here in the States, and, having recalled how rapturous the articles were, I decided to give it a whirl, and consequently put on the giant headphones and hit Play. Welp, by the end of "Sleep the Clock Around," I noticed I was getting some funny looks from the passers-by, and I started flipping out, wondering what was wrong. As it turned out, I was crying. I hadn't even noticed. It struck me by surprise cos when it comes to my emotions I'm usually very stoic, and I really can't say what set me off. I assumed it was the album, and I shelled out $16.23 to purchase it. Since then, I've been playing it non-stop and eating my roommate's food. Just thought you'd like to know. I'm usually a lurker on these lists, and I will inevitably be one here, but I just wanted to declare my intent. So, that's that...can't wait to get the rest of the LP's and EP's, and hopefully I'll be able to meet a few of you who are in the NYC area. P.S. I'm not usually this somber. As a matter of fact, I'm not usually somber at all. Cheers Jay ---------------- "We're desperate. Get used to it." -- X +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xav at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 06:42:00 1998 From: xav at xxx.uk (Mark Crutch) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 06:42 +00 Subject: Sinister: Re: he swallowed his pride... Message-ID: <199811200642.GAA09022@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> Somewhere in the sprawiling Metropolis that is the little village-like community of Sinistrality (in a kind of Trumpton type way, for those that know of it), Jessica Foxinasnow wrote these glorious words:- --- Quoty Bit Follows --- That's the closest i've come to getting a list crush yet, having someone remember to distinguish me from their true crush. Which i guess is better than not being remembered at all. It's kind of like that oh-so-clever listee who was gonna change their name to 'Phillipe' to get all the mistaken fans of Philippe one-l two-p's. I thought that was a brilliant idea. Maybe i'll have a list crush on that person, though i forget who it was. Phillipe. ----- Quoty Bit Precedes ----- That was meee! And it would have worked, too, if it hadn't been for you pesky kids - or more precisely, if the aforementioned snowy one had omitted the word "maybe". Hurrah, my very own "near miss" list crush. I feel like I finally belong. Of course, part of me doesn't actually want a confirmed list crush, because then I'd have to turn the rest of you glorious people away. Not from any sense of monogamy - I'm as interested in a bout of orgiastic cardie-wrestling as the next person - but because these things always end in tears. You'd find out about each other, there'd be a fight, Honey would have to treat us with a firm hand (matron), and then people would sulk. And it would all be my fault. So instead, may I just culminate this excessive thankyou to the foxy one with the following:- circumscribe sinister (i.e. I want to put my arms round the whole lot of you and give you a big hug). Xav (whose real name is Mark as he never changed it to Phillipe (two Ls, one P) on account of thinking he was too late for the grand totalling of the crush votes ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 05:57:44 1998 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 22:57:44 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Simple things Message-ID: Hey there� I rarely post so, whatever, but I felt I should tell a tale of strange beauty�a small thing really. I've been workin' my ass off lately so I popped into my fave Brooklyn bar, the Last Exit, to down a few, pause and reflect. I enjoy a few laughs with my barkeep friends as we commiserate our working week. I pay for one beer all night, if that helps. Musically, the Last Exit is betwixt and between. Still striving to find an identity, it shuffles along that lonesome electronic highway where drum 'n' bass still echoes. The characters tonight fixate on this and grope about mysteriously, as if they could create musical knowledge from inference. I takes notes and chuckle to myself. Characters abound and the talk is so cheap it can't afford the airtime. After getting sucked into situation upon situation, I lapse peacefully. The lovely transplants next to me have to discuss amongst themselves and I am grateful for it. Robert, the aging barfly-savant, is blathering endlessly about gyms and the need to sweat toxins as he puffs on his Marlboro Light. That's when Me and the Major comes on like the breath of God. I am ecstatic to say the least, and get my end of the bar so riled up we make 'em play "�Sinister" the whole way through. Brooklyn rocks. xoxox, Emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jimmybryant at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 06:59:35 1998 From: jimmybryant at xxx.com (jimmy bryant) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 01:59:35 -0500 Subject: Sinister: "let's sing our song of protest!! ..."Up-town guuurlll'..." In-Reply-To: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0331A413@amerwksnt01.xil.com > Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981120015935.00cb8244@pop.mindspring.com> >Oh and the "is a cricket not unfair" video is #1 in Streamland's top 20. >B&S even beat Scary Mary Manson and a bunch of other likewise tuff and >poorly-dressed types. The headline says "Belle and Sebastian knock Manson >Down a Notch" which is a pretty amusing picture if you think about it..... what's streamland? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 06:12:54 1998 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:12:54 -0700 Subject: Sinister: F.a.o. New York listees Message-ID: Well� Before you do that, check out this http://www.villagevoice.com/ Kinda goofy, but a good place to start. emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From michaela.clarke at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 09:02:48 1998 From: michaela.clarke at xxx.com (Michaela Clarke +44 (131) 343 5810) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:02:48 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: stars of track and field Message-ID: <1148020920111998/A99716/MULL/11CBA2422F00*@MHS> nice theory about stars of track and field until I joined this list i always thought the 1st line was Pick a new colt everyday which i prefer 'cos it seams to fit in more with the shagging young athletic boys kind of feel anyone agree or am I just a mad old hag? K'la (too shy to ask any one to tape tigermilk for her) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Sarah.Thew at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 09:15:52 1998 From: Sarah.Thew at xxx.com (Thew Sarah) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:15:52 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Those left handed rumours Message-ID: Sorry - Ive been sitting at the back, looking out the window at the boys playing footie and generally not paying attention - so can someone explain the left handed = good at shagging thing? We have a disproportionate number of southpaws in our office and we're all desperate to know so we can impress our other halves B&S Content - I swear wee Stuart M was in my yoga class last night - he's a very bendy boy back to lurking Sarahx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 10:13:07 1998 From: C.M.D.Loo at xxx.uk (CMD LOO) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:13:07 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: subscribe Message-ID: subscribe D A N I E L O O "It takes Strength to be GENTLE and KIND" M O R R I S S E Y +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cms247 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 20 10:48:30 1998 From: cms247 at xxx.edu (clint stauffer) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:48:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Whatever References: <004401be1439$4e89d5e0$a42b883e@computer> Message-ID: <365548FE.523200EA@is6.nyu.edu> If you want to avoid a bunch of stuff doing mostly with nothing B&S, you can delete here, but please stay with me if you want. Where do I begin? This is my first big post, so I'm going to try to make it all-inclusive and cover all of the recent topics to spare any keystrokes on your part. What better place to start than crush votes? Well, I got none, nada-- I guess I need to post more. I didn't vote, but I know who I would've voted for. You know who you are. ;-) Okay, maybe not. Can we have "peeve votes"? I might get better results then. The DC & New York shows: Although I didn't get to meet the majority of you, it was so very nice to leave a show and see so many smiling faces. Being from the DC area, it was nice not to have that annoying level of pretention that permiates the Black Cat. Sorry, DC, but it's true. I'm so glad they played "Beautiful" during the last NY show. Thanks to those who were there. The recordings: Regarding the album color of Lazy Line Painter Jane, I re-examined my copy and come to the conclusion that, for any of you have played Trivial Pursuit, it eerily resembles the pink category-- Entertainment, I believe. Other recordings: Although B&S has recently dominated my CD player, the new Elliott Smith and PJ Harvey have been making regular appearances. Anyone who mentioned Cat Power, Modest Mouse, Quasi, or the Geraldine Fibbers (I know someone did, bless you) also wins favor. Bus stories: With the exception of riding the bus to class in college (which led to no memorable experiences), I really don't have any bus-riding stories. The only memorable story I have is when I was small. I was only about three years old when I started preschool. I was absolutely terrfied to ride the bus-- it seemed like everyone was so much older than me, which was probably true, and I had no one to sit with. All that aside, one weekend was bus-washing weekend, where all of the children and their parents washed the buses, I guess because there was no one to do it. My Dad and I went to wash the buses one Saturday. Like all things, I was hesistant to participate, like all things in my young life. I swear, if my parents didn't force me to do things I would have done nothing. Anyway, it was one of my few fond memories of childhood. I don't remember much else. I don't know if it had anything to do with buses-- maybe it was just spending time with my Dad. Now that I look back on it, it was probably around the time my sister was born, so I was probably starved for attention. Anyway, if you get a chance to wash buses, don't pass it up. The list in general: For all of those who don't check their e-mail that often, maybe the digest version is better (just a suggestion). I got off the regular list for awhile, but I missed it. It's always nice to get messages. Besides, every keyboard has a delete key. The "cyberfriends" debate: I don't know what to say on this. I know it's nice to be able to communicate with those who share a common interest. Besides, like others have mentioned, a lot of those on this list have met in person. I don't think the majority of people on the list are anti-social in any way-- face it, overall there aren't that many people who share the love of B&S that those on the list do. Isn't that what this is for? Thanks for your contributions. The video on 120 Minutes: I missed it! Totally forgot until 1:30 am, but by that time it was too late. Smut: None on my part, my dears, which is probably best for humanity anyway. Clint +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 10:50:26 1998 From: Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com (Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:50:26 EST Subject: Sinister: Bus Stop Chat Message-ID: <3eb7956f.36554972@aol.com> this is my first real post and i'm a bit nervous. please be patient. In a message dated 98-11-19 18:15:03 EST, you write: << Everyone must also have a story about somebody puking up at the back of a bus on a Saturday evening at 11pm. >> i have a story about when i was the one puking up at the back of a bus. when i was maybe 10 years old i was sent on a 4 hour greyhound bus ride to see my grandparents. it was during a strike so the bus was overcrowded by maybe a dozen of us(the air conditioning was broken during the 109 degree day as well). the bathroom had 3 people taking seats inside and the rest of us were sitting in the aisles. i was in the back of the bus where i met a nice young couple who had just eloped, a young man who was on his way to las vegas and was trying to become a professional boxer, and a recent immigrant from mexico in his 40's who kept trying to get me to marry him so he could get his green card. i didn't know what a green card was then, but the newlyweds and the boxer told me it was a bad idea. we spent the 9 hour ride sharing the peanut butter sandwiches and apples i had brought and washed them down with a bottle each of vodka and whiskey. so there i was 10 years old and silly drunk arriving in to town with my head out the bus window letting loose liquor soaked peanut butter sandwich bits on other cars. it was a funny thing that as soon as i turned around to introduce my new friends to my grandparents, they had disappeared. i always wonder if my boxer friend found his career. *alyssa marie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 10:50:24 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 10:50:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "let's sing our song of protest!! ..."Up-town guuurlll'..." References: <3.0.1.32.19981120015935.00cb8244@pop.mindspring.com> Message-ID: <36554970.D6072E71@jeepster.co.uk> just take a peek at http://www.streamland.com/ to view this site you MUST have macromedia's flash plugin installed in your browser and the latest Real player (capable of video). cheers -- jimmy bryant wrote: > > >Oh and the "is a cricket not unfair" video is #1 in Streamland's top 20. > >B&S even beat Scary Mary Manson and a bunch of other likewise tuff and > >poorly-dressed types. The headline says "Belle and Sebastian knock Manson > >Down a Notch" which is a pretty amusing picture if you think about it..... > > what's streamland? > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Fri Nov 20 11:26:40 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:26:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i'm not much cop at punching other peoples dads Message-ID: Well, I dreamt about slow giraffe for the fourth night in a row. In fact I woke up about 6:40 AM and thought, yes, I never heard it. And fell asleep again and dreamt it. How long this will go on for? It could be some time judging by my previous "moon river" stuck in the dream head music. That was continuous for three months, back in 95. Anyway, this time I was ice skating and it was playing in the background like in a lovely brr wintry film. Here's a fact, Struan Murdoch dreamt all of "I could be dreaming", from start to finish he said. hence the "if you had such a dream.." bit. Which he must have dreamt as well if he dreamt the whole thing from start to finish. Sort of like a bonus murdoch song, that we got to share in. Talking of which, I've got miss julia's vinyl tigermilk in work with me today. I'm worried sick in case I break it. Do you think she'd mind if I took it down the town and swapped it for some lovely heroin? Now, michelle I strongly recommend you go down to the basement and dig out the string band vinyl. light up some candles, burn some incense and sit cross legged on a travel rug wearing a dressing gown usually does it for me. You're right the hangman's beautiful daughter is miles better than wee tam. However wee tam does have two bright beacons of wonderfulness, namely "You get Brighter" and the epic "Ducks on a Pond". Ducks on a Pond has the most triumphant kazoo solo in it since the dove flew back to Noah with a twig. I'm a bit concerned to hear about the evil Tag clone. I'm sure i've told you before how I feel about evil clones, but an evil Tag Clone is just terrifying, especially if it wields a huge penis. Genetic engineering ahoy: take one tag clone, engineer an unfeasible meat truncheon and give him enough temper to be right rough when it comes to loving. And keep it on your continent. I raise an accusing finger in a general Toronto direction. I may regret typing that. C H R I S T O P H E R +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From l.r.beattie at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 11:33:12 1998 From: l.r.beattie at xxx.uk (Lennox Beattie) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:33:12 GMT Subject: Sinister: Question Of Annoyance In-Reply-To: <365486C8.66957DCB@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> Message-ID: <634C23471EF@dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:59:53 -0800 From: Jason Brent To: B&S Digest Subject: Sinister: Question Of Annoyance Reply-to: Jason Brent Hello Everyone! I have a question for all the people on the left side of the pond. I have an English friend here, who is huge into soccer! (football) Anyways, he has all this Arsenal stuff, shirts, scarfs, blah blah... and he says that they are the true team of the working class! (how someone with both parents who are doctors, fits into the "working class" is beyond me!) My question is, I want to get a shirt of a team that represents everything Arsenal supposedly isn't. Snooty, posh, whatever, just to piss him off. I'd love to see the look on his face when I turn up all decked out in the enemy's colors, especially since I know NOTHING about soccer, and I stumbled upon everything he is passionately against! Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated! On another note, does anyone know who distributes non Matador B&S stuff in Canada? Hope you are all having a great day! Jay In my cd player: The Crabs What Were Flames Now Smolder You could try Tottenham Hotspur their traditional rivals from North London, Wimbledon also from London who are the real low rent old skool footy team no skill no subltely and all long balls or you could try Chelsea the pure middle class team of the moment with all the classy continentals my tip though is to get a Kansas City Wizards shirt as Mighty MO Johnston, the only man to have played for both Celtic and Rangers is a god Cheers Lennox +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 11:44:58 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:44:58 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Winter morning ramblings In-Reply-To: <3654511D.1FC7@javanet.com> Message-ID: <199811201139.LAA30753@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Mmmm, dont you just love winter mornings - The frosty chill, wrapping yourself up in fake furs and the feling of breathing in sub-zero air and feeling your nose go all numb. Mmmmmm... Anyway, you've all been very busy, especially evan who's been positively espadrillian in his posting. Let's have a little look shall we: > i like meeting people online cause idont like talking, its hard and > itmakes my mouth dry > especially with pretty girls who i dont know what to say to (and pretty > basically means any girl i see) > im dreadfully shy its a little easier over the net, i get along ok with > people i like, i just dont know how to meet them unless i have something > specific to say besides you have the prettiest kindergarten eyes ive > seen in today Aaahh, I feel so sorry for you evan - I used to be just like that, right up until this summer when I finally snapped out of it and gained a small amount of self confidence. In fact, I probably would have been too shy too expose my feelings to the world as you have. Hey, what else. A tag imposter (don't worry tag, I thought it was quite um, amusing. And..... Queen Bee Janine commented briefly that: > Did you know that honey is the sweetest naturally occuring > substance on the planet? I thought that candarell was sweeter... ;-) kelly said: > OK, I'm gonna go curl up in a ball under my desk with a bag of chips and > take a little nap. I so sleepy. So winning the cutest image award off evan. Go to it, gal. I read in the grauniad that there was an evil takeover bid for the infamous Cassell Professional Publishing. Any insider information to be given out..? Hmmmn...? Well it seems that again I have very little to say... Except that Southampton is filled with famous people. The manager of the place where I saw a gig the other day was Ken Livingstone, and Shirley Manson is a barmaid in the student union. Except it can't be her because I don't fancy SM but.... I've got today free and I'm down here on the computers when I could be doing something much more interesting... But as of yet I havent thought of it. James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mcai8jw2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 12:46:39 1998 From: mcai8jw2 at xxx.uk (Jeffrey Westcott) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:46:39 GMT Subject: Sinister: CD copies of 'Tigermilk' Message-ID: <1F548087CF5@ist4.co.umist.ac.uk> Dear all, Now i have your attention, you may be pleased to know that Piccadilly Records in Manchester is currently selling 'Tigermilk', and the radio 1 session tracks on just one CD, i can personally vouch for the quality being excellent. After years of listening to 'Tigermilk' on 8th generation cassette, it is great to have it on CD, i can tell you. Thanks for your attention people, Jeff. PS. PR is on Oldham St, in the Northern Quarter of the city. "Don't be a Casual(ty)" >From the keyboard of J.I.Westcott esq. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belbeoch at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 13:06:12 1998 From: belbeoch at xxx.com (gwenn belbeoch) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:06:12 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981120130613.26115.qmail@hotmail.com> Vanessa wrote : yay we rule!! Kung Fu Faker wrote: > I know there are a lot of Sagittarian babies on this list. C'mon fess up, it's > the coolest zodiac sign (okay, that's debatable)!> according to me, the most interesting part of Kung Fu Faker's message is the last four words : okay, that's debatable... it is indeed... and anyway i don't pay attention to the zodiac signs... birthdays are important for what they are, not for the signs... have a nice wekend ! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belbeoch at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 13:06:29 1998 From: belbeoch at xxx.com (gwenn belbeoch) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 05:06:29 PST Subject: Sinister: Sinister : birthdays Message-ID: <199811201306.FAA15318@f282.hotmail.com> Vanessa wrote : yay we rule!! Kung Fu Faker wrote: > I know there are a lot of Sagittarian babies on this list. C'mon fess up, it's > the coolest zodiac sign (okay, that's debatable)!> according to me, the most interesting part of Kung Fu Faker's message is the last four words : okay, that's debatable... it is indeed... and anyway i don't pay attention to the zodiac signs... birthdays are important for what they are, not for the signs... have a nice wekend ! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 13:03:00 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:03:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: les etoiles secretes Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981120130300.007094c4@mail.interlog.com> i had to reply: At 05:54 PM 11/19/98 -0800, you wrote: > >Is anyone else on the list into the Secret Stars? >They're a local (Boston) band I've just rediscovered. >Their first album, which is self-titled, is available >on Shrimper (from CA) and I think a lot of B&S fans >would probably like it. A guy and a a girl and very >very quiet, sad, wintry songs. Good snow day music. > >Check it out. > >aaron ooh, i love the secret stars.. they're gorgeous. wintry songs indeed. do you know the band ida? if you like the secret stars, then i'm sure you'll love them as well.. especially since they covered a secret stars song on their last full-length (a beautiful version of "shoe-in"). plus, they even sing the great line, "driving home in your car, listening to the secret stars, can't believe how great they are..". along with belllllle and sebast-i-an and stephin merrit projects, ida are my absolute favourite band. now you know. teri xx there's an interview with ida here! ==> http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 13:28:23 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:28:23 -0000 Subject: Sinister: B&S go Jive Message-ID: <199811201322.NAA14210@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 5066 bytes Desc: not available URL: From pcxas at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 14:11:45 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:11:45 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Question Of Annoyance In-Reply-To: <365486C8.66957DCB@callisto.uwinnipeg.ca> Message-ID: Being a 'continental' , according to the Brits, and sharing a house with an Arsenal fan too who wears daily all the hooligan gear, that's wolly hat, scarf and so on, i think Jason , we have something in common... My experience tells me that Tottenham is the most annoying choice and in your case,the best;not because of social reasons but sports ones,Manchester United can be good for your purposes.My housemates words about this fact (someone supporting Manchester Uni.):BORING!,in a loud and boo-boo tone. I was thinking that why there is no good pop songs with some football content in their lyrics.I don't mean a song about football, OK?But I though that at least working class heroes as Liam and Noel or the future Glasgow owner Jim Kerr should have laready written some lines on the topic something like 'It's Sunday afternoon/all is doom and gloom/Sheain't here anyore/and there was no score/' Ivo,were you reading High Fidelity? If I finally date happily with someone with some Simple Minds album on their shelves,I would realise I am middle aged... Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 14:33:58 1998 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:33:58 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Cheese/Giraffe situation Message-ID: <36557DD6.958BBF2B@cs.strath.ac.uk> Turt wrote > I don't like it when cheese goes runny. I saw a giraffe go runny in Zambia > and it's one the most beautiful things I've ever witnessed - real life in > slow-motion. I don't quite understand the concept of runny giraffes, but they sound like a wonderful thing. Anyway, this whole cheese vs Giraffe confrontation has gone on too long. Cheese is bad in all forms except on buttered digestive biscuits with coleslaw on top. Giraffes are good, runny or otherwise. I hope everyone will forgive me, but as I am bored I feel the need to start another pointless debate. Say, Scooby Doo vs Batfink. I say Batfink, for his wings of pure steel. Incidentally, does anyone else feel that 'A short album about love' is Neil Hannon's finest effort to date, and one of the most beautiful albums of the past 10 years? On my cd player: The Pogues 'If I should fall from grace with God' Ally +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 16:13:03 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:13:03 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Smell Dee Hepburn's Feet Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0042620C@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Oh dear, I'm being drawn in by the might of "the beautiful game". It's a thin line between minor flirtation and full on obsession you know. Actually, it's a wide gulf really, but I do seem to be managing to bridge that gulf at a frightening pace. A Japanese friend of mine told me that she worried about British football hooligans coming to Japan for the World Cup in 2002. I put her straight, they won't be British, they'll be bloody English. Of course, I don't really have any Japanese friends, certainly not female ones. But I have a dream. And dreams come true. Didn't John Gordon Sinclair sing that on TOTP once? Was he singing about wet dreams? How do wet dreams come true? I don't understand that. Am I stupid? Not as stupid as whoever thought Clare Grogan fancying John Gordon Sinclair was believable casting. Someone called Jake D'Arcy played Phil Menzies in Gregory's Girl and there's someone called Jake D'Arcy on the Shalala mailing list. D'you think they invited the entire cast and he was the only one that joined? I'll bet they're well pissed off Clare Grogan didn't. She's hard she is. She'd eat the entire Shalala cast for breakfast. I think it's quite hurtful that people have been saying bad things about that list behind their backs so I'm going to say it to their faces. They don't let you though. It's a scary world where all subversive opinions are suppressed and filtered out by someone called Pete in a "Twee As Fuck" t-shirt before they get to YOU, the people. I'm sure some dodgy political and religious groups throughout history have employed this tactic. I'm too ignorant to know which ones though. There is no humour in the world of Shalala. There isn't. Go look. It's true. Anyway, what I really meant to say was, has everybody read that joke about our heroes on the letter's page of the NME this week? I thought it was quite amusing so the suggestion that B&S fans are tight-arsed miserable sods that don't appreciate a good joke is right out of the window. The person who wrote it was from Aberdeen. I'm always proud when someone from Aberdeen gets a letter published in the NME. And I wish I could remember what it is Nancy Sinatra sings on Kinky Love. Something about "I know he's a man and he's got to have his Kinky Love". Isn't Nancy great? I fancy her. Especially the bits she's had cut off. I actually own them. They're in a jar next to my bed and I take them out and lick them every once in a while. I keep them in whisky, so they taste pretty good. I was going to use that line about a man needing his kinky love as my signature. But since I can't remember it, I'll use something Filthy McRagtag told me instead. Except I promised myself I wouldn't say anything bad about the Duke anymore and Robert probably doesn't want me telling the world what he's been saying in private. Kinky Love People, Kinky Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 16:26:25 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:26:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: blissxo is now back to tinystar Message-ID: <001301be14a2$88a191a0$421e05d1@tinystar> hey all, just wanted to let you know that my aol "million free minutes" thing is over, and i will now be returning to my usual, non-commercial email address. it's tinystar at worldy.com i also have a web page, http://www.worldy.com/~tinystar/ oh dammit, i thought i turned off that stupid encoding thing. can anyone tell me how to do that? i already went up to "format" and changed from rich text to plain text. any other way of fixing this? i know it's going to drive someone crazy. other than me. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 16:28:00 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 11:28:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: re:secret stars Message-ID: ohooooh, I adore the secret stars like you wouldn't believe and I could tell you their entire discography right now. OK I will, if you insist. Cassette-only self-titled release - shrimper they have 2 7"s and 1 split 7" with Ida self-titled CD Geneologies CD alright so I can't remember the names of the 7"s and stuff. bah. they rule. In fact I interviewed Geoff Farina, who is one-half of the secret stars, and is also in the band karate, for the first issue of my zine. He was so sweet, and so intelligent, that I instantly developed a huge crush on him. and... he actually CALLED me once and I was so excited. this is how our conversation went: Him "Hi, I was wondering you had (name deleted)'s phone number." me: "yes, I do, it's (phone # deleted)." him: "Ok, thanks. well, have a nice weekend. Bye." and that was the beginning, the middle, and the end of our steamy romance. ;) anyway I think people who like belle and sebastian would be into the secret stars. they have quiet, mellow, lovelorn songs for the most part, and occasionally there's some tape manipulation and stuff going on. the secret stars are amazing. check them out. right now. what are you waiting for? go! Queen Bee Janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From el_sayal at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 16:55:54 1998 From: el_sayal at xxx.com (Geoffrey Todd Culbertson-Womack) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 08:55:54 PST Subject: Sinister: Introductions all around Message-ID: <19981120165555.9476.qmail@hotmail.com> Dear Sinister-pals, I'll keep this brief. I've been lurking about this list now for quite a while but finally feel motivated to say 'Hello.' Lefty? Yes. List crushes? Not so much. Postmodernism? Pretty okay by me. And plenty more where that came from. That's great for now, so 'goodbye.' Geoffrey Todd PS. Thanks to Andrew Dean for taping what he did many many months ago, I should've sent on an appropriate thank you note ages ago. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 16:58:38 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:58:38 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A Question of Time. Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C6B@COR-EXG1> Jason Brent wanted a footy shirt to piss his mate off. Why be so confrontational ? Not every footy fan has to be. As a Gooner of 19 years now, I can honestly say that if one of my mates walked up to me in a Scumspur shirt I 'd piss my pants with laughter. Not the desired effect I'm sure you'll agree. Chelsea, now there's a thing. Everyone hates Chelsea because they are so bloody middle class and bloody expensive to watch. They are also hated because they take the Branscombe Vale Breweries Ale Cider League Trophy Cup so fucking seriously. A Chelsea shirt would be a good thing. My advice to you young man however, is to go out and join the new breed of peace-loving footy fans and buy yourself an Arsenal shirt. Embrace your friends love of the team and join him - make a tighter bond. Right, you can all stop throwing up now. Charlie Nicholas. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Nov 20 17:06:19 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:06:19 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: oh... stuff Message-ID: Sailors and pirates on the mighty ship Sinister. You've mostly all mostly been *so* nice to me that I'm quaking in my boots awaiting the almighty Honey backlash, just like what Leo Sayer got. I see Peter Miller's started already, but I knew he'd get his oar in. To the 15 people who voted for meeeee, I am flattered, stunned, aroused and outraged! I too would like a gender breakdown of, sorry, from Stuart G, but you can't tell the boys from the girls these days. Anyway someone says the only reason I got all these votes was "the Mrs Thatcher factor" - i.e. "ooo, look at the way she struts about, maybe if I misbehave she'll put me over her desk and spank me hard?". Is it my ankles or something? In spite of all this I know that Ms Fluffy Canderel Sarah truly deserves the tiara, even though she won't lend me her frock. I'm going to keep the Miss Sinister sash for just a week then, wearing it to watch the Nine O'Clock News in my pyjamas, and then send it back to its rightful owner. WeeJay's risking his life challenging a Queen Bee on the sugariness of honey, but he's right actually: there's none so sweeter as the lasses of Preston. Incidentally I really liked "Mx Honey" - does it stand for "Minx"? I'm not so sure about the Jive Dialectized post though - they seem to be multiplying ever since Keith Watson invented them in 1956. It's nearly as well-trod as translating something automatically into French and then back to English again and sending it back to the list. Who could be so corny? (hint: look for "shrub shrub" with Search on the WWW page; I know Peter Milliner will never let me forget). Anyway, I've blown any credit I scraped back here in one fell swoop. Someone mailed the list ages ago telling anyone involved in a tape tree to remove the tabs of tapes they received. I keep forgetting to confess that I didn't, and that I've replaced approximately 60 seconds of Biondino's tape with white noise. I was going to pretend it was Mogwai remixed by erm, Mogwai's Mum, but I'm just not going to get away with it am I? Biondino - I'm really sorry. I'm also dead late sending on tapes so I offer myself up for crucifixion... they're on their way to Thailand now, honestly. Crikey, I had a dream about a horse last night. On to business... -- LIST STUFF -- Thank you for mostly heeding what I begged for in my last mail - most of you are sending in wholesome, wholemeal posts, lovingly pored over and re-read under fading candlelight in wispy nightgowns. Because I've asked to point it out by a few, could you please help readability by following conventions when replying to someone else's mail: o Don't just tack your reply on the top or bottom of a full copy of someone else's mail - cardinal sin number one, which is punishable by having to do a LOT of washing up. It's a real waste of list traffic and 800 peoples' download time so please do a bit of mousework. o Choose the bits you want to quote from someone's mail and take time to format them with a nice indent at the beginning of the line, like lots of people do. It makes it much easier to read, you know where the quote paragraphs end, and if one person can't be bothered, then 800 others have to wade through it. o Don't go the other extreme and read a mail, hit reply, and say "I agree". o Think before you mail back to the list: should I just be replying to the person who sent or asked this question? Does everyone else want to know too? Maybe I should just go and tell my mum? There's another rule I keep leaving out the FAQ: posts to list whose soul content is football earn you a night in the cells. Not that I'm biased or anything. No, make that sport in general. Oh and um.. birthdays.. while it's a spiffing idea to make someone happy when they reach 80 by sending them an email, please let's not turn this list into an offshoot of Hallmark cards: if we did we would get 2 or 3 a day, plus probably ten times that with people thanking others, and asking them what Aunt Connie gave them and whether they fit. If you've sent Nanette your birthday, them I'm sure a little sub-list of birthday well-wishers can be done, all off the list. I know I'm a terrible nag, but it's because others nag me, so please take it in the proper spirit and be of good cheer. I'd honestly rather be in an apron in a fragrant garden serving tea to The Incredible String Band, than being a misery-guts here, but it's worth it if the list keeps on and you continue to like it. But if anyone feels like sending a five page "personality" questionnaire to the list and asking for people to answer it, um, on the list, like I've seen elsewhere recently, think again and see me after class :) -- SOME OTHER STUFF -- Martin Horsfield: > I would guess the stereotypical image of B&S fans is wedge > haircuts, black 501s with turn-ups, cardies or three quarter length > suede jackets and Penguin books T-shirt for the boys, and short > floral skirts, DM shoes, hair slides and woolly stockings for the > girls. That's funny I've got ALL of those on right now. I honestly don't know if we all wear the same clothes. Wouldn't it be funny if we all found out we were wearing the same underwear right now? It could happen...stop laughing, it COULD. We could have an underwear tree - we compile a list of addresses and send one item of underwear on to the next person every fortnight. We wouldn't even have to remember to remove the tabs or anything. I was a little embarrassed to see Rachael's repeat posting of my previous mail from September, primarily because some of the made-up names and circumstances bore an uncanny resemblence to a few more recent things. Can I remind people that it was written ages ago, I love you all dearly, and it's not my fault I'm clairvoyant? And that (again!) I really don't mean to pick up individuals on things if I sound like I am - I only keep saying this because every time I post someone mails me back and apologises for something that I didn't know they'd done, and they thought I was making voodoo dolls of them in my bedroom. It's like that old Ealing Comedy plot when a policeman with a wonky helmet (stop it) gives a criminal a parking ticket and he confesses to stealing the crown jewels. Finally, thanks Linda for spilling the beans about my past; maybe you'll explain to Calum why I'm really called Honey. I don't get named after song lyrics, otherwise I'd be called Delilah. I, and no doubt Chris Leonard, also want to know what Linda meant when she once told me that Rock Hudson and Johnny Mathis "went off and lived together in a condom". I don't get that at all. Mx Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com> Fri Nov 20 17:31:10 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com> (kellym at xxx.com>) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 09:31:10 -0800 Subject: Sinister: another dull, uncreative and generally useless post. please delete accordingly. Message-ID: <199811201734.JAA06869@macbeth.ienet.com> Oh, Friday morning. That's a good thing. My car refused to start today and I had no choice but to take the bus. Arg. No funny stories or vomiting ten year olds, just me standing up with thirty other people holding on to a sweaty metal bar for twenty minutes. They did have a "Poetry in Motion" thing on the wall by some guy named Pedro something or other, but it wasn't that inspiring. I like getting into work early before the techno kids get in so I can play b+s... its a good way to start the day. That and a donut. Mmm... donuts. Why is there a social stigma attatched to paying with things in change? I bought a pack of cigarettes with dimes today and the drug store clerk looked at me like i was a leper. Maybe its cos my hands were all sweaty... Yeah, that could have been it. Sweaty change is kind of bad, but even when you pull it right out of your pocket people still give you wierd looks. That and food stamps people get upset about. But I don't have any food stamps so I can't really give you that perspective. Though, government cheese has always sounded kind of tasty to me. Ok, I'm gonna go play with matches. -Kelly Ryan McGuire "I knew it all along, I'd have to write this song To young to fall in love, guess we knew it all along That's alright, that's OK We were walkin' through some youth, smilin' through some pain That's alright, that's OK, let's turn the page" - Motley Crue +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 17:33:41 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:33:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: French fancies (and not Philippe this time) Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2234A17B@server1.HITEntertainment.com> While I'm waiting for the booze to arrive downstairs (my enlightened employer gives us the last hour of Friday afternoon to drink beer and eat French fancies), I thought I'd just add a comment or two that none of you will bother reading. Being of the Groucho Marx persuasion (viz quote about clubs that would have me as a member), I am obliged to desperately want to be on the sharlarlar list. Is it good then? I can't imagine being on a list that wasn't run by the sweetest naturally occurring substance, though... I am very upset about not being able to go to Janine's party. I'd like to remind the list that I am available for parties in and around L****n, for nothing but all the Spanish red I can guzzle, and for the cab fare home, I'm perfectly willing to humiliate myself and give the other guests a good laugh. Obviously you can take your chances on me doing that anyway. Back to the point...no-one has yet offered their sumptuous pad for a sinister do yet, so Calumn is going to be forced to wander the streets crying into his bellbottoms when he comes down in a fortnight - come on people, make him feel the warmth of our southern welcome, otherwise I'm going to start believing Fluffy's right about the apathy of my beloved capital... Otherwise, can we start working on a time to meet up in, say, the Spread Eagle (wonder why I thought of that?) when he's down - Calumn, let us know which weekend evening/afternoon you can do and we'll pa-a-a-a-rty, if that's okay by you. I'm sure I did have something to say, but I'll come back with that in a minute. Love, The Devon Tourist Board +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Fri Nov 20 18:42:42 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:42:42 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: CD copies of 'Tigermilk' In-Reply-To: <1F548087CF5@ist4.co.umist.ac.uk> Message-ID: So many things I have to learn, not because they'll serve any purpose in my life, like learning Java will, but because I'm bored and I can't read "The Bonfire of the Vanities" at my desk. So please humour me with some local color (fact or fiction, doesn't matter, as long as it's entertaining!). First of all, what is "Fox in the Snow" all about? Why are this person's legs turning black and blue, and why in the world would there be a question as to whether he got paid? Also, On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Jeffrey Westcott wrote: > "Don't be a Casual(ty)" Now there's that word again. I'm really curious about these "Casuals." Are they like our preppies, expensive private school types from old families? Are they like "yuppies," cell-phone sporting business types who wear sneakers to work, or are they like our "white trash," suburban dwellers who listen to country music, drive trucks and don't have a clue? Also, are there any famous examples of "casuals," and how did the term evolve? I'm really curious to know about this, and I'm really bored, so I'll expect the answers to come flying in! Ciao, Heatherita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Fri Nov 20 19:08:02 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 14:08:02 -0500 Subject: Sinister: The Fox In The Snow In-Reply-To: References: <1F548087CF5@ist4.co.umist.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981120140802.0069bd98@beacon.eastern.edu> Heather Marie Propes wanted to know: >First of all, what is "Fox in the Snow" all about? Why are this person's >legs turning black and blue, and why in the world would there be a >question as to whether he got paid? Since my name is Jessica Foxinasnow and all, i thought i could give this one a shot. I'm pretty sure the first stanza really is just about a lonely fox, but then the metaphor carries over into the second, which is the one that i related to so much i named myself after the song. It's about a lonely girl, bookwormish and full of ideas, who just can't seem to relate to the people around her. Her friends think she's kind of weird, and she wants so badly to tell them what she's really about, but she's afraid they won't understand and so she keeps it bottled up inside and just lets out a crazy laugh and heads home to be by herself again. My favorite bit in the whole song is the beginning of this stanza, "Girl in the snow, where will you go to find someone who will do? to tell someone all the truth before it kills you?" Then in the third stanza, there's a lonely boy, who goes off riding his bike around town. He's not even having fun, he's just trying to escape society for a little while. I see him as being a bit frenzied, only caring about getting away and not even paying any attention to where he's going. Even when he keeps hurting himself (falling off his bike or whatever), he can't stop pedaling. The singer wonders why the kid keeps just biking around, when it's not like anybody's paying him to be doing it, and it certainly seems like it's more painful than rewarding. The final stanza i've never been quite so sure what to make of. If anyone wants to do a little bit of exegesis with that one, go for it, cos i think i'll stop here. Anyway, the song to me is about feeling lonely and isolated (cos you think too much and feel too much) and wanting to get away to somewhere where the people understand you, but not knowing how to get there. Which i relate to very well. I think i've just listened to "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" seventeen times in a row...i LOVE that song. Mmmm. Jess "When you're dancing and laughing and finally living, hear my voice in your head and think of me kindly" - The Smiths Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Fri Nov 20 18:25:03 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:25:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Is it Wicked Not to Care? Message-ID: <199811201325030340.00E24373@204.96.36.40> So, I guess some people are interested in knowing more about me (well, probably not, but everyone else talks only about themselves, so why can't I?) This is going to be shocking to many and will probably irk even more people than I have already irked, but, I am a punk rock goddess! I know, calm down. I sure this is most shocking to the kid that wants to scold the Northampton punk with coffee. So, you're probably all thinking, "Then why are you on this list," or "How do you like Belle and Sebastian." Simple: Belle and Sebastian (I hate to say this) like the Smiths or the Velvet Underground, atract all kinds of depressed, socially outcasted people (or whatever else). I was drawn to them when my boss (I work at Strangeways, affiliated with Spinnaker, but in Provincetown, MA. I'll write more about my shitty little town some other time) gave me "...Sinister" for my birthday. I didn't listen to it for awhile, even though he had written a long letter along with it explaing what a sensitive person I am and how the album is perfect for me (I know many will disagree). But then my once friend and mentor forced me to listen to it. I couldn't get into it because she's, how should I say this...insane, overly-talkitive, a bit creepy in her infatuation with my boss. She started working there just to get next to him. Any way, I finally listened to it alone. I thought it was so great. It hought, 'WHy isn't this huge?! This should be so huge that I shouldn't even listen to it.' I'm very much against main-stream. Oh, too bad, I have to go. I'll continue this at some other time, unless people complain (and I know they will). ...CARMEN... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Fri Nov 20 19:25:35 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:25:35 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: The Fox In The Snow In-Reply-To: <3.0.1.32.19981120140802.0069bd98@beacon.eastern.edu> Message-ID: On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Jessica Gockley wrote: > Since my name is Jessica Foxinasnow and all, i thought i could give this > one a shot. I'm pretty sure the first stanza really is just about a lonely > fox, but then the metaphor carries over into the second, which is the one > that i related to so much i named myself after the song. It's about a > lonely girl, bookwormish and full of ideas, who just can't seem to relate > to the people around her. Her friends think she's kind of weird, and she OK, thanks very much for such a thoughtful answer. I really do wonder a lot about B&S's lyrics as they seem to contain a lot of double entenre, metaphor and what have you. Anyway, I guess the reason I couldn't relate to they lyrics at first was because it's been a long time since I've been that age! (I'm 28, and have survived painful school days, social cliques, etc). Yet, it does seem to describe precisely what I was as a child too, I was chubby, and liked nothing more than to sit around reading "The Little Princess" by Frances Hodgeson Burnett. I also read "Wuthering Heights" but I preferred "Jane Eyre." I don't know if I'd go so far as to say I felt too much, but I was certainly a social outcast. Then I discovered punk and became a rebel, still a social outcast, but at now least with a manifesto and a subculture. A friend of mine once said, "you know, if we weren't into this kind of music, we'd all be really dorky." Anyway, thanks Jessica, yours was just the answer I was looking for! Heatherita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 20:07:42 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 12:07:42 PST Subject: Sinister: You stuttered like a kaleidoscope Message-ID: <19981120200743.24709.qmail@hotmail.com> I used =laugh= at my roommate for spending 'til 3 a.m. in the computer center. Well, I was also laughing because he was short and funny-looking and acted -exactly- like the Rain Man. I was also laughing because his name was Donkers Hoddlesnoot. But but. I ++laughed++ when he told me he was going down to Tennesee to visit a girl he had met, whom I saw on an exchanged videotape, sitting in her bunker-like fluorescently-lit dorm room. I felt a little bad when he came back from Tennesee smut-free.I mean, he was the Rain Man, after all. Then I went and opened an e-mail account. Now here I am planning a trip to England and hoping just hoping that I'll get to meet people I've never seen. Now I don't know what I'll do if I don't. More like I don't if I'll go if I don't. I have dreams that star people whom I ostensibly know but in dreams they are just faceless composites of traits that I've chosen for them. I have crushes on these people. I spend mornings in a library I despise so as to communicate with people who don't even know my name, nor do I want to give it to them. I wear sickeningly ugly glasses rather than contacts for most of the day because I no longer care what I look like. I ignore the sniggering of the real-live humyns around me who call me funny names for having my head in a computer all day. Oh well, they suck anyhow but that used to really bother me. I'd never craved anonymity until I realized I could be anyone at all. The beauty and tragedy of the internet is the mutability of its characters. They can be (and are), really, anything you want them to be. If you ever had self-confidence, however illusory, the internet will destroy it. The internet gives you illusory friends and destroys the time you spend with real ones. Someday soon people will write about the internet being the loneliest ghost town of broken dreams and dashed hopes, right before Yahoo stock slides right into the dumper. A lonely highway and a long stem rant indeed. P.S. just because you laugh at short, funny-looking people doesn't mean you aren't short and funny-looking yourself. Oh, and I still love you all. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From peter at xxx.uk Fri Nov 20 20:28:21 1998 From: peter at xxx.uk (Peter Brittain) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:28:21 -0000 Subject: Sinister: A wee story... Message-ID: <006b01be14c4$536f4820$e024883e@default> A person I know at school told me the other day that he was out shopping and went into a record store, there, sitting under B for Belle and Sebastian, was believe it or not, a single copy of Tigermilk, facing outwards for the world to see. Priced at 13.99 (uk pounds) It seemed to good to be true, unfortunately right as he approached it from a small distance, a woman rushed up exclaimed "yeessss!" and went and paid for it. Needless to say he wasn't very happy, and complained to her that he was just about to buy it, but she cackled and scurried off to wherever she came from. The end. (And it's not a happy ending) Grrr. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Fri Nov 20 19:39:03 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:39:03 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Re:There's a light for a fox in the snow Message-ID: <01be14bd$6d9f8d60$cf7defc8@default> Jess wrote: >I think i've just listened to "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" >seventeen times in a row...i LOVE that song. Mmmm. "There is a light that never goes out " is the best love song EVER Lyrics is a important part of a song. Maybe that's why i am not a huge techno fan. Of course Belle and Sebastian's lyrics are GREAT. Sometimes i don't understand what Stu wants to tell "us"... but, this is ART. We don't have to understand everything all the time.. just love or not. sad lyrics are better, not cause i'm a sad guy or something.[i'm not all the time, believe me] I was thinking about *There's a light that never goes out* lyric this week. I was thinking about how crap 90's bands are too (but this is another thing) I think i THINK !!! :o) well..maybe i am bored. I am writing too many mails to sinister. Bye ~~~^~^v^~^v^~^v^~^v^~v^~^v^~^v^~ Ivo A P Escossia Ps: Sorry, i know this is not Panic List NP: [Orange Cake Mix] Back to the Island Mp3 file Is there any OCM fan here ? Mick, i know you like. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geek_girl at xxx.net Fri Nov 20 20:52:13 1998 From: geek_girl at xxx.net (Kung Fu Faker) Date: 20 Nov 98 15:52:13 EST Subject: Sinister: Evan Dando at B&S in NYC Message-ID: <19981120205213.26239.qmail@www0g.netaddress.usa.net> Did anyone else read this in the Intelligencer column of the 11/23 issue of New York Magazine? I thought it was mildly amusing. EVAN DANDO: HOT (LEMON) HEAD It may have been a Belle & Sebastian concert, but Evan Dando, the hunky lead singer of the Lemonheads, took center stage at the Supper Club earlier this month. According to witnesses, the angst-ridden rocker threw his beer in the face of an acquaintance who'd simply said hello. The victim, a British sound engineer for rival pop bands like Blur, said, "I've met him twenty times, and it's always the same old shit." Dando skulked back later to mumble an apology. Maybe it's less a case of rock-star rowdiness than of the blues: Dando's recently been linked with Kate Moss, who checked herself into an English clinic for "nervous exhaustion" last week. Dando could not be reached for comment. The squat was a difficult position that most yoga teachers have problems assuming, but the disenfranchised in all societies do it with ease. -Paul Beatty ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From swanarama at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 21:15:49 1998 From: swanarama at xxx.com (Amanda Bergman) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 13:15:49 PST Subject: Sinister: swanster back in full effect Message-ID: <19981120211550.3586.qmail@hotmail.com> gone...but not forgotten, i hope!! i have been in england two months now SANS internet access (much to my dismay) but i have since moved flat and my new roommate HAS A COMPUTER! praise god. so here i am. to everyone i have been unexcusably neglectful in not emailing...well, please try to find it in your inbox to forgive me. and was there talk of a brighton meetup? sounds good to me, as i am now living in that lovely city. well, hove actually. :) looking forward to the new EP and hours and hours of endless time in chat, swannie x x + + + + + + + + + + + + + "If you are good at anything, that is beauty." --from _Taxi Driver Wisdom_ visit *Red Roses for Me* fanzine (and records for sale) http://surf.to/redroses ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Nov 19 23:27:46 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 23:27:46 +0000 Subject: Sinister: video compilation References: Message-ID: <3654A972.43E8C977@jeepster.co.uk> we do want to do something with the videos eventually, but at the moment you could watch them all in 15 minutes or so. the band (sarah especially) are working on new ideas and bits of film, and once they're cut and pasted we'll have another. hopefully v. soon we'll have enough to make a video compilation, but not yet - sorry! -- Dave Snyder wrote: > > Hi, > Could the Jeepster folks let us know when a video compilation will be > available for sale? It would seem it is difficult to see the videos > otherwise. > Thanks! > > ************************************************************************** > *Dave Snyder******514 E. Ann St. #5 Ann Arbor MI 48104******(734)741-9708* > **************snyderd at umich.edu**http://www.umich.edu/~snyderd************ > > ....didn't i say feelings were the last things to make themselves felt?... > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From susan at xxx.org Fri Nov 20 21:32:49 1998 From: susan at xxx.org (Susan Mers) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:32:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Let me in your good graces Message-ID: <3.0.3.32.19981120163249.0077b89c@local.fcnl.org> Reid spoketh: >By the way, a quick hello to my friend Susan who joined the list. >Everybody: "HELLO, SUSAN!" Hi everybody...a conspicuous newcomer is in your midst. Thanks Reid for prompting me to post something. Without your enthusiastic introduction I probably would have lurked for a long time... I am a fan, obviously. And I am really excited to be on this list and hear from all of you all the millions of reasons you are Belle and Sebastian fans...It's a beautiful thing. Susan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From punk77 at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 21:41:50 1998 From: punk77 at xxx.com (punk77 at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 16:41:50 -0500 (EST) Subject: No subject Message-ID: <9811201641501F.10659@web03> you guys are pathetic.. belle and sebastian suck,.. ----------------------------------------------- Get your free email at http://www.alloymail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Fri Nov 20 21:20:12 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:20:12 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: A wee story... In-Reply-To: <006b01be14c4$536f4820$e024883e@default> Message-ID: Peter Brittain wrote: > A person I know at school told me the other day that he was out shopping > and went into a record store, there, sitting under B for Belle and > Sebastian, was believe it or not, a single copy of Tigermilk, facing > outwards for the world to see. Priced at 13.99 (uk pounds) It seemed to > good to be true, unfortunately right as he approached it from a small > distance, a woman rushed up exclaimed "yeessss!" and went and paid for it. > Needless to say he wasn't very happy, and complained to her that he was > just about to buy it, but she cackled and scurried off to wherever she came > from. I'm sure this has been said before, but doesn't this remind everyone of a certain Roald Dahl story? Heatherita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 20 22:43:54 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:43:54 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Introductions all around In-Reply-To: <19981120165555.9476.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: sigh - ok, I demands a list crush - not only someone to crush on but peeps to crush on me. that's it. grrruggle. -teri http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "Follow me through a city of frost covered angels I swear I have nothing to prove I just want to dance in your tangles To give me some reason to move" NMH On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Geoffrey Todd Culbertson-Womack wrote: > > Dear Sinister-pals, > > I'll keep this brief. > > I've been lurking about this list now for quite a while but finally > feel motivated to say 'Hello.' > > Lefty? Yes. > > List crushes? Not so much. > > Postmodernism? Pretty okay by me. > > And plenty more where that came from. > > That's great for now, so 'goodbye.' > > Geoffrey Todd > > PS. Thanks to Andrew Dean for taping what he did many many months ago, > I should've sent on an appropriate thank you note ages ago. > > > ______________________________________________________ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From leslie.chinea at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 17:22:00 1998 From: leslie.chinea at xxx.com (leslie chinea) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 17:22:00 +0000 Subject: No subject Message-ID: <001643AB.C21069@emimusic.com> unsubscribe sinister-digest +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fruite at xxx.com Fri Nov 20 23:05:28 1998 From: fruite at xxx.com (Jamie McCordale) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 15:05:28 PST Subject: Sinister: Could I write a piece about you now that you've made it...? Message-ID: <19981120230528.12219.qmail@hotmail.com> someone wrote: >>>...but everyone else talks only about themselves +++it's very fun to discuss issues and daily life trivialties! >>This is going to be shocking (gasp!) to many and will probably irk even more people (GASP!) than I have already irked, but, I am a punk rock goddess!(GASP! GASP! GASP!)(SHOCK, HORROR!)(SOMEONE HELP!) >>Simple: Belle and Sebastian (I hate to say this) like the Smiths or the Velvet Underground, atract all kinds of depressed, socially outcasted people (or whatever else). +++Everyone here is super fun! right P!O!O! kids? >>This should be so huge that I shouldn't even listen to it. what a nice compliment! >>>the queen of sweaty socks and dirty underwear (how very smutty of me) (i mean the queen of athletics of course!) ta ta kidddies! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Sat Nov 21 01:09:02 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 02:09:02 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Snow Message-ID: <365612AE.ACF7F529@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Slowly little and powdery snowflakes fall down today. It's a great event , for my mild and quiet city. Thank you sky , the force of nature. Marco#7 , the man that waiting for the Fox. Goodnight. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From bp224996 at xxx.edu Sat Nov 21 01:15:01 1998 From: bp224996 at xxx.edu (Mick McMick) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:15:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Tape Tree (SANDERS!) and asundries Message-ID: <36561414.52A11CA6@oak.cats.ohiou.edu> Hello I can't find my person to send stuff too from the tape tree. His name is Sanders Hall, and his old e-mail isn't working. Help! Find him! Also, am I like the only one who isn't surprised that Carmen is the punk rock queen? Sample conversation: A: "I hate the internet, it's evil, the government is out to get us" B: "Oh. What sort of music do you like" A: "I listen exclusively to polka, of course" B: "Natch" What's wrong with this picture? In my CD player: Red Sleeping Beauty - Bedroom EP /"\_/"\_/"\ Mick McMick - bp224995 at ohiou.edu - ICQ#5056758 \ / Sandcastle Records - (same e-mail for now) | | Sandcastle Homepage - | | http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/4972/ | | "I am always wishing to make people | | in the world happy with my smiles." | | - Mr. Friendly +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Sat Nov 21 01:56:59 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 01:56:59 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Flaccid casuals Message-ID: <3cU0qAAr3hV2Ew$p@subcult.demon.co.uk> Glam Heather asked "what is a casual?" While I'd hate to export this grimly British phenomenon to the US, I think you are owed an explanantion. Casuals emerged in the mid-80s and were characterised by a taste for sports casual clobber: think pastel shades, Pringle V-necks, Lyle & Scott sweaters, polo shirts, white Taschini tracksuit tops, white Puma State trainers, Farah slacks, lots of hair gel, wedge haircuts, crimped mullets, bum fluff, one ear ring. Bizarrely, rather unthreatening, effeminate look was sported by all the hardest kids in school. Unsuprprisingly it also took hold on the football terraces, with trips abroad to see English teams often degenerating into smash and grabs on Italian boutiques. To an extent, it was an oddly Thatcherite youth cult, which prided itself on the cost and exclusivity of the gear, and it had reactionary values to boot. At my 6th form college, these people were called 'football casuals', but being a right-minded football fan, I didn't give that label much time of day. The arrival of E at the end of the 80s is credited with the terraces getting a bit more 'loved up'. The casuals stopped trying to beat the shite out of students and, oddly, the studes made the most of this hiatus in hostilies and started, well, dressing like casuals (Oasis were culpable here). These days, I may occasionally sport an Ellesee ski jumper or a Lacoste V-neck as an ironic throwback to the casual era. At least everyone didn't dress the same back then. Someone like Damon Albarn could be seen as ironic casual, too. Indeed for a short while, it was suggested that the kids who frequented Blow Up, circa 1993, were 'modules' - a cross between mods and casuals. Actually, they were a watered down, middle class, pastiche of both. Dont you just love this stuff? PS/In common with everyone else, I too misheard the intro to 'Stars Of...' I thought it was "Make a new coat every day to suit your affairs", which made a certain amount of sense. Martin Horsfield, anthropologist +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 04:46:58 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:46:58 PST Subject: Sinister: You can pin beanie baby heads to the walls of office cubicles Message-ID: <19981121044659.23973.qmail@hotmail.com> hello everybody! Charmed to see everyone. i just went to Bimbo's in SF, which was somewhat of an adventure, being on my oddy knocky and never expecting to happen on some inneresting people (Cornelius was amazing, by the way, and if you've ever found the album fantasma a bit too intense and opus-like but otherwise good, watching them live was pure fun, engaging, amazing. See them live. The sound is rougher, warmer, harder than on the album.). Bimbo's! If Belle and Sebastian ever play live in SF, let it be at Bimbo's. Great atmosphere, really good vibes, better than the fillmore (which has a funkier, older 60's thing, going on) and slims, yeah? Oh, what fun. Though perhaps I'm just enchanted and brutalized by the city, particularly so, this time around, it being fall, and feeling like every minute is somehow the only one you've got, and so I live almost in despair, that nothing lasts, not even love, which is the other subject of this email, besides a few other little things: I read a little princess too! and ballet shoes by noel streatfield, and hid in my room and made up songs about bluebirds. Another thing of note: british chocolate rocks, because it just does, and because mark C just gave me some, thank you thank you thank you, another kiss on the cheek for that boy scout. Okay, deteriorating love. Got it bad for a b&s fan, that I've fancied since before either of us liked b&s, and I wrote a poem, but glanced at it this morning and found it unfinished. Smut level: 2. maybe three. I invite you all to finish it for me. i would have created a connect the dots for you but i guess that's next time. You slipped out. Another blown seed Drifts into the sea. Shipwrecked, mutinous, Raging at the tiny waves, I remember more than you. Passing love dreams: fall grapes, lolling on the tongue; sun, melting. I forget the taste of your mouth. Crushed, like a grape in the teeth, your kiss, the reality of you. bye bye, Cynthia ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From csomeone at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 04:47:49 1998 From: csomeone at xxx.com (Cynthia Someone) Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1998 20:47:49 PST Subject: Sinister: You can pin beanie baby heads to the walls of office cubicles Message-ID: <19981121044749.22810.qmail@hotmail.com> hello everybody! Charmed to see everyone. i just went to Bimbo's in SF, which was somewhat of an adventure, being on my oddy knocky and never expecting to happen on some inneresting people (Cornelius was amazing, by the way, and if you've ever found the album fantasma a bit too intense and opus-like but otherwise good, watching them live was pure fun, engaging, amazing. See them live. The sound is rougher, warmer, harder than on the album.). Bimbo's! If Belle and Sebastian ever play live in SF, let it be at Bimbo's. Great atmosphere, really good vibes, better than the fillmore (which has a funkier, older 60's thing, going on) and slims, yeah? Oh, what fun. Though perhaps I'm just enchanted and brutalized by the city, particularly so, this time around, it being fall, and feeling like every minute is somehow the only one you've got, and so I live almost in despair, that nothing lasts, not even love, which is the other subject of this email, besides a few other little things: I read a little princess too! and ballet shoes by noel streatfield, and hid in my room and made up songs about bluebirds. Another thing of note: british chocolate rocks, because it just does, and because mark C just gave me some, thank you thank you thank you, another kiss on the cheek for that boy scout. Okay, deteriorating love. Got it bad for a b&s fan, that I've fancied since before either of us liked b&s, and I wrote a poem, but glanced at it this morning and found it unfinished. Smut level: 2. maybe three. I invite you all to finish it for me. i would have created a connect the dots for you but i guess that's next time. You slipped out. Another blown seed Drifts into the sea. Shipwrecked, mutinous, Raging at the tiny waves, I remember more than you. Passing love dreams: fall grapes, lolling on the tongue; sun, melting. I forget the taste of your mouth. Crushed, like a grape in the teeth, your kiss, the reality of you. bye bye, Cynthia ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jj at xxx.org Sat Nov 21 06:51:31 1998 From: jj at xxx.org (J.J. Heldmann) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 01:51:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: unsubscribe jj at fantasticpop.com sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 08:29:36 1998 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:29:36 PST Subject: Sinister: My first post and PLUSH REQUEST anyone? Message-ID: <19981121082937.29515.qmail@hotmail.com> >Hello! This is my first post. Umm. I expect I'm the only one here that = >apart from Belle and Sebastian, also likes Mogwai, Aphex Twin, = >Squarepusher, and just about everything else on Warp and chemikal = >underground recordings? I kinda have unusual music tastes. Techno and = >Belle and Sebastian aren't very similar! Oh, by the way after about two = >messages I always descend into lurkerdom on mailing lists. I can't help = >it, I just do... > >P.S the mail probly says I'm Chris Brittain, but I'm not really :) > HEH! NO FAIR. When I wrote my virgin post, there was nought who wrote back (except the lovely Jessica) and now Not-Really-Chris gets so many posts in response to his (boohoo!):):) Sour grapes I know! But I too love a lot of techno Peter, like One Dove whom I've hyped up and ranted and raved about before in this illustrious mailing list. Have you heard of One Dove before Peter? If so, please write back to me privately at :daftpunk at tartarus.uwa.edu.au. In fact just write me anyway! Love to hear from B&S fellow fans:) I also love Air, Andrea Parker, Lamb, Ruby, DJ Shadow and Red Snapper among many other techno acts. I like Aphex Twin a lot but I must confess Squarepusher is like the techno equivalent of Throwing Muses. You know they're excellent but that doesn't make listening to them any less hard- bit like maths really. BIG SHOUT AND FUZZY WARM HUGS to all those wonderful peeps who wrote back praising the glory of Tanya Donelly and Belly. YES! WE must NEVER forget her importance even though the cruel and fickle music press seems to have. (p.s. are you a fan of Belly, Peter?)ANy more Belly/Tanya fans out there??? Come on! Make your praise be known! errr if anyone has a copy of the Plush album ("More You Becomes You") and/or Michael Head and the Strands' "Introducing The Strands" (or is it "Magical World of the strands"?) please contact me privately at said address:daftpunk at tartarus.uwa.edu.au. Please let me know if they are good albums (as I've read they are) and teehee, could whoever has it kindly make a tape/cd copy of Plush for me? I've got loads of B&S rare stuff to trade and I've got tons of stuff, maybe some you are interested in- I've got tons of Tindersticks (all the albums including "Donkeys", plus a tape of all their early vinyl recordings up to 1995), Belly (again, lots of rare stuff), and gazilions others including Sparklehorse, Air, Andrea Parker, Black Box Recorder, Teenage Fanclub, Pulp, Beth Orton Beck, Lush, Garbage, Throwing Muses, Spiritualized, UNKLE etc, etc. so yeah all you PLUSH-ers contact me!:) seeya folks Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amarnold at xxx.edu Sat Nov 21 08:58:16 1998 From: amarnold at xxx.edu (Alex Arnold) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 02:58:16 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Moose, giraffes, and other things that don't fit in the fridge Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981121025816.0069a45c@students.wisc.edu> Hi all, All the chatter a week or so ago about shoegazing has re lit a fire under my proverbial sneakers and I have been looking for all those wonderful cd's I should have bought back in 91'. Its been a Herculean struggle as a lot of the stuff is out of print. The used cd stores that litter the cultural ghetto known as "State street" in my town have been my only salvation. I was able to find some lovely stuff such as the Pale Saints and the House of Love. I even found a Moose cd. Now that many of you are asking "So what's your point you babbling twat?", I was wondering if one of you lovelies could e-mail me the tracklisting to the Moose cd "Son of Sammy". The store I bought it from didn't have the case for it. I even went so far as to stare at my shoes in hopes that some sort of cosmic irony would save and I would see it lying on the floor, but I had no such luck...Get it? Shoe...gaze...floor...HAH!...by jimminy I'm clever. As far as the cheese vs. giraffe debate goes...various people wrote: >>What does cheese have? Mould? >And handy little holes you can hide things in, and you don't have to be >thirty feet tall to reach it. You can also keep it in your fridge - when >was the last time you saw a Giraffe in your fridge ??? What if the cheese has Bob Mould, of Husker Du fame? I hardly think he'd fit in the fridge. B&S content: Not much really. I sat out on the balcony the other evening and listened to IYFS while trying to view the meteor shower. It was too hazy out, but B&S on the headphones during a cold winter's evening was quite pleasant. Bye bye, Alexander the not so great +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmontaldi at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 10:49:18 1998 From: nmontaldi at xxx.com (Nikolas Montaldi) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 02:49:18 PST Subject: Sinister: SHELAGH DELANEY ANYONE ? Message-ID: <199811211049.CAA08349@wya-lfd21.hotmail.com> HI LIST... I was just wondering if any of you people share my passion for writer/playwright Shelagh Delaney ? It would not surprise me if she was little known outside the U.K, since she has really been a very lazy Shelagh. She wrote the most perfect play "A Taste Of Honey" aged nineteen,and after that little else,apart from a funny collection of short stories "Sweetly Sings The Donkey" and a less convincing play.This was of coourse billions of years ago,sometime in the early 1960's,so she is almost forgotten today.I just mention her because her characters have all very Belle&Sebastian-esque qualities,from the stubborn and rebuked Jo in "Taste Of Honey" to the half knowing,half innocent adolescent boys ad girls in her short stories. Delaney herself seems to have been a wonderful character and I have a ace photograph of her hanging above my desk,however I know little about her.Nonetheless I find it rather adorable to be hailed as some literary genius at 19 and then to retire at 25 unwilling to become part of the establishment,don't you think so? Well thats all from me for today - Greetings from the boy with the blocked up nose. P.S:Stephane,I'm sorry that I still haven't send you the book I promised.I've got a dreadful cold and have since been unable to make my planned trip to Edinburgh.Did you get my note last week? ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Sat Nov 21 12:37:33 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:37:33 +0000 () Subject: Sinister: boy on a bike and leftie sex Message-ID: i loved jessica's interpretation of 'fox in the snow'. i wrote a poem last year using the 'boy on a bike' line because ever since i first heard the song it would come into my head at odd moments in that way that i've come to recognise as meaning 'write a poem, write a poem, write a poem, you know you want to'. it's not about the boy on the bike in the song though, rather someone i know who rides off on his bike to the harbour or into the woods to write and think, and isn't always that great at being around people. he's a bit of a bastard actually. anyway, that's irrevelant. since i was the one who first claimed that lefties were good in bed, i suppose i should be the one to explain or qualify this statement. i'm not sure, but i think it might be to do with the fact that lefties have to use their right hands for some things too as the world is not ideally adapted for them everywhere. so, they can be relatively...erm...efficient with both hands. whereas righties have never had the incentive to learn to use their left hands, and are therefore sometimes more limited... i'll stop now. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nobody can be uncheered with a balloon." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amesricroy at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 13:39:57 1998 From: amesricroy at xxx.com (Alison Smith) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 05:39:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: Lou Barlow touched my belly-button! Message-ID: <19981121133957.6807.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com> No-one at school realised quite what an acheivement this is, as no-one knows who sebadoh are, but I'm sure that you discerning music listeners will understand. Ahhhhh! I was at their gig in Gloucester, cunningly blagged my way backstage, and Lou Barlow played Myster Man to me on his acoustic guitar! Then touched my belly button, then the drummer snogged my boyfriend. Oh yes. Oh yes. _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Sat Nov 21 14:52:30 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:52:30 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: hey dubliners Message-ID: I noticed that there has been a run on listees visiting dublin and wanting to meet up with other listees. Well unfortunatly it looks as if that when i am there, otheres won't. But if there are any native dubliners on the list who want to meet a real life listee do get in contact. I'm going to be over from wednesday 2nd December until sunday 6th. sam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 15:24:02 1998 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 07:24:02 -0800 Subject: Sinister: SHELAGH DELANEY ANYONE ? In-Reply-To: <199811211049.CAA08349@wya-lfd21.hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981121072402.008f3240@mail.hooked.net> At 02:49 AM 11/21/98 PST, you wrote: > >HI LIST... > >I was just wondering if any of you people share my passion for >writer/playwright Shelagh Delaney ? It would not surprise me if she was >little known outside the U.K, since she has really been a very lazy >Shelagh. I've read her. I'm not from the U.K. (grew up in Detroit, lived in Louisville, Boston, Chicago, Italy, LA, now SF). Wasn't she considered part of the "Angry Young Men" group? I've never really followed up on reading any of the others, but "Taste of Honey" was excellent. You'll note that Morrissey stole quite a few lines from her... "A double bed and a stalwart love of the shore, these are the riches of the poor." (Just one example, several others exist too.) Anyway, for what it's worth, I buy into the previous comments that B&S seems like the Smiths of the 90's. Lyrically, Gene seems to fall into that niche as well. It's a shame the Smiths can't get back together and write songs. I wouldn't even cared if they toured, or rather it'd be better if they didn't. They seemed to have that right mix of bitter and lyrical, Morrissey and Marr as right and left hands never really able to shake properly... Morrissey solo seems to have sweetened slightly and I'd prefer a little more sour. Kudos for mentioning a forgotten playwrite. There is a light that never goes out. Chris +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 15:26:54 1998 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 07:26:54 -0800 Subject: Sinister: boy on a bike and leftie sex In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981121072654.008eaa50@mail.hooked.net> At 12:37 PM 11/21/98 +0000, Archel wrote: >since i was the one who first claimed that lefties were good in bed, i >suppose i should be the one to explain or qualify this statement. i'm >not sure, but i think it might be to do with the fact that lefties >have to use their right hands for some things too as the world is not >ideally adapted for them everywhere. so, they can be >relatively...erm...efficient with both hands. whereas righties have >never had the incentive to learn to use their left hands, and are >therefore sometimes more limited... > >i'll stop now. probably not true of soccer (football) players who have to learn how to use both sides of their bodies well. hands are not the only appendages. and how often have you heard "goalllllllllllll!"? pants+/- <- former striker +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Sat Nov 21 14:56:10 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 12:56:10 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Shelagh Delaney Message-ID: <01be155f$133b91a0$0100007f@localhost> Nikolas Wrote: >I was just wondering if any of you people share my passion for >writer/playwright Shelagh Delaney ? Is there any web site about Shelagh Delaney ? Please, Let me know. >She wrote the most perfect play "A Taste Of Honey" aged nineteen >I just mention her because her characters have >all very Belle&Sebastian-esque qualities,from the stubborn and rebuked >Jo in "Taste Of Honey" to the half knowing,half innocent adolescent boys >ad girls in her short stories. The dream is over but the baby is (not) real. Ivo A P Escossia escossia at electus.com.br "...and my friends don't seem to be friends at all but people whose phone numbers I haven't lost." In my Cd Player: Astrud [Vitra Center Ep] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 15:56:43 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 15:56:43 GMT Subject: Sinister: A vodka bottle gave you those racoon eyes Message-ID: <3656daa5.5666464@post.demon.co.uk> Hello Playmates, So, as Christopher Alexander Leonard pointed out, there's an evil Tag clone that walks amongst us. I've been through a variety of emotions since learning this. First I was afraid, I was petrified. Now I've learnt to accept my more ample-trousered twin, and intend to celebrate his presence and milk his whopping chopper for all its worth. Personally, I think this is the result of Linda's EEVL project. She's trying to swap our personalities around. I think I'm turning into Keith. I've already developed an extraordinary pop trivia knowledge, a tendency to fall asleep in flower beds, and my arms are involuntarily twitching along imaginary fretboards whenever I hear a Pete Townsend solo. So there's no need to chose a new Duke. One of you will become him. It could be you. Myself, Mr and Mrs Warrander John, and Antipodean list lurker Caleb went to a record fair this morning. As predicted by the Dandy, the smelly soul grandads were out in force. But we were hip to their jive, neither of us have washed or changed our underwear for a month, we carefully cultivated 3 days of stubble, and as a result we were afforded preferntial treatment at every stall. My most prized purchase was "Automatic Lover" by Dee D Jackson, the cover of which I suspect will give poor Emma nightmares in weeks to come. I'll let John tell you about his most prized purchase himself, as it will give him a chance to woo his hero and all. Carmen, welcome to our extended family. I'm glad to see you making tentative toddlings into the world of off-topic nonsense. And to her critics...in all honesty, if I hadn't seen just how good this list can be with my own eyes, I'd probably be just as cynical as she was. So be gentle with her. That is all, Love tag xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Sat Nov 21 16:34:12 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:34:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Smut rating: 6 Message-ID: <199811211628.QAA03600@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> I'd better make this quick - this place closes soon and I only got up at 3 due to a night up watching 'scream' and 'scream 2' with a lot of people I only sort-of know all night. Firstly sinister has got it's first flame - a milestone in the time of any mailing list but obviously not a nice thing at all. Actually, it'd be best not to comment on it, so forget what I just said and dont reply to it. 'A Short Album About Love'? Good, but not up to 'Liberation' or 'Fin De Siecle'. And I'm afraid that if you buy an Arsenal shirt I won't speak to you again. Harsh but fair. What else... hmmmn... I saw a documentary a few days ago called 'men at 50' and one of them said something to the effect of 'I heard that men think about sex every 5 seconds... I'd say that was about right.' Now I've always thought that this was a pretty ludicrous urban myth but, people, is it true? Perhaps I'm ludicrously undersexed, cos it only crosses my mind perhaps a couple of times a day. More if you count 'She'sBeautifulShe'sBeautifulILoveHerILoveHer' or listening to B&S and imagining snuggling up to somone in bed to it. Yes, TABBYWARS may not be a shag album, but it's definately a snuggle album. Breaking a B&S content and smut personal best, WeeJay James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 16:32:37 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 08:32:37 PST Subject: Sinister: a very short story to brighten your day Message-ID: <19981121163237.4910.qmail@hotmail.com> as i've said i work in a shitty music store. but one day i threw in TBWTAS and around that time a couple around 80 years old or so came in. i ask if they needed any help and they said no, but i noticed he was tapping his foot. i didn't say anything and went about doing my work. well the song TBWTAS came on and about half way through it they were headed out the door(they had been there to hear practically the whole album) the old man turns to me with a big smile on his face and says(while clappin his hands with the beat) "how could you possibly work with such wonderful music playing". needless to say it cheered my day up from checking in c.d.'s all day. maybe it will do the same for you. robbie in my c.d. player: the exotic sounds of martin denny ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Sat Nov 21 16:59:32 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:59:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: CD player Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC75@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> In my CD player: Beatles, the white album. Sorry, I just felt like telling everyone. Clem +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Sat Nov 21 17:07:26 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:07:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinsiter: come back!!! Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC76@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> Does anyone know when B&S are comming back to England/Scotland; or are they already back from their tour? Clem +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Sat Nov 21 17:58:12 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:58:12 -0000 Subject: Sinister: how can you tell if you've got mumps? Message-ID: <006301be1578$9e9e8400$03000004@n2f9x2> COWABUNGA! the batteries on my walkman ran out just at the end of LLPJ. pissed off pissed off...i must say though that i don't object to monica queen at all...yes, i'm a bit backward as to the current topic..i've been a bit scared to write, as i offended people last time..i babysat last night, and got very bored...so i attempted to play dirty dream #2 on a toddler's toy keyboard. it went quite well, considering. it's a lovely view from the window here, autumnal, but a bit wintery too, all misty, and orange, green and brown. well, it's a bit dark now, but earlier... on the train to work the other day i saw a piece of grafitti. it said (in black) 'i love jon nicholason', and under it, in blue it said 'whatever, bitch' i can't find the feather duster bye alix.c "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Sat Nov 21 19:05:52 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 19:05:52 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Mystic Smeg speaks... In-Reply-To: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC76@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> Message-ID: Well there I was, minding my own business, perusing the sale section of our local record emporium this afternoon, when suddenly a freak distortian in the space-time continuum caused a wormhole to appear. And out of it, dropped a single CD (what are the chances of that happening?). Much to my surprise, I discovered that said CD was in fact by everyone's favourite Scottish popsters, B&S. I was surprised mainly because it turned out to be a "Best Of" collection from the year 2013. Not having come across this particular item before (that's the problem with living outside of the big cities - the shops just don't get these rarer CDs as often), I examined it more closely. Of course, as with any album, the first thing I looked at was the tracklisting. As far as I can remember it, it was: The State I Am In, TBWTAS, Le Pastie, Paperboat, Modern Rock Song, Rhoda, Painful Encounter, She's Losing It, LLPJ, Get Me Away From Here, Solitude, Off-topic, Dylan In The Movies, Summer Wasting (Fatboy Slim remix), Cock Fun, Carnage Mother F*ck*rs. I'm not sure if I've got that last one right though. Now unfortunately I didn't have enough cash on me to buy the album, but it came with a 'band history' booklet, so I nicked that out of one of the sleeves, becuase I thought you might be interested in what it had to say... "Belle and Sebastian may now be recognised as one of the greatest bands of all time, but it wasn't always like this. Indeed, they sell far more records now than they ever did while they were still together, towards the end of the last century. Partly this is because of the current Acoustica boom in the music industry, but also because of the catalogue of misfortune and misadventure which dogged their career together. "The founder of the band was reclusive lead singer xvyw, then operating under his real name of Stuart Murdoch. His early demo tapes were picked up on by students at Stow College, who each year released a single under the namer 'Electric Honey Records' as part of their course. In B&S's case however, there were so many songs ready that they decided to release an album instead, the legendary Tigermilk, copies of which currently change hands for over 200,000 ECU. The rest of the band consisted of Stuart's aquaintances from around Glasgow, and people recruited from the regulars at the fabled Grosvenor Cafe in the city. The album brought the band onto national radio on the now defunct Radio 1; and soon after they signed a deal with Jeepster records of London to release their next album. "The second (and first widely available) album, If You're Feeling Sinister, sold slowly mainly by word-of-mouth recommendations; and in 1997 it was followed by 3 EPs recorded in the Church Hall where the band made their base. It seems inconceivable now, with Le Pastie... having been adopted as the national anthem of post-revolutionary Europe, but these EPs were largely ignored by the record-buying public, with the final 3..6..9.. Seconds Of Light EP being the only one to make it into the Top 40. This may well have been due to the bands reluctance to talk to the press at all, for (as we now know) fear that interviewers might discover the truth about Stuart's gender. Indeed, by the time the 3rd album, The Boy With The Arab Strap, was released in September 1998 he declined to do any interviews whatsoever. "Increasingly at this point, keyboardist Chris Geddes (currently with the reformed Backstreet Boys) and guitarist Stevie Jackson (who sadly passed away last year) were becoming spokesmen for the group. It was at this point that the internal differences in the band first surfaced. Stuart and cellist / singer Isobel Campbell wanted to take the band into increasingly precious music, reflecting their own innate shyness (Isobel famously refused to tour with the band from early 1999 as she couldn't face the large crowds the band were attracting, and so does not appear on the live rendition of Paper Boat included here, recorded at the Hollywood Bowl in June 1999). Meanwhile other members of the band were determined to shake of the band's twee image. The tension forced Chris back on the alcohol, which he had vowed to give up after being forced to take a bucket on stage because of a particularly bad hangover at one early gig. It also led to trumpeter Mick Cooke being thrown out of the band after being arrested for indecent behaviour during a show in Memphis, Tenessee for proving whilst high on drugs that he was indeed being a true Scotsman in his kilt. "Of course the band's ever-expanding obsessional fanbase know nothing about this at the time, and their insatiable demand for new material led the band to release 4 more EPs over the next year. However the standard of material dropped as the band could no longer keep up with demands placed on them by the record company. Only the acknowledged classic Off-topic, ironically all about fans on an email list dedicated to the band, has stood the test of time. All-too aware of this was bassist Stuart David, who walked out of the band in the Autumn of that year, and subsequently found far greater commercial success in his solo career under the pseudonym 'Looper'; but not before delivering the stinging rebuke 'They used to be my friends, but now it's just pish'. "The 6 remaining members completed the band's final album, Compassion For Giraffes, in December 1999; their saddest work by far, reflecting the maudlin state of them at the time. It went straight into the Top 5 on its release, and it appeared to all the world that huge mainstream success was just around the corner. But little did the public know just how strained relations within the band had become. Drummer Richard Colburn's messy relationship with violinist Sarah Martin only made things worse. The band were jealous of the success (and subsequent attention from the record company) of label-mates Snow Patrol, and the lengthy legal battle when the label tried to rerelease Tigermilk, but were prevented from doing so when David Essex sued the band for plagiarism on the song Mary Jo, was the final straw. The band finally split on 30 June 2000, the day after their ill-tempered headline slot at the Glastonbury Festival. It could have been a brilliant career... "Stuart David continues to enjoy success with Looper, whose 10th album will be out in the new year. Sarah Martin spent two profitable years playing with the Corrs, and now lives in California. Isobel Campbell currently runs an old people's home in Falkirk. Richard Colburn is no longer in the music industry, but makes his living working for a top accountancy firm. Mick Cooke hosts his own TV chatshow on BBC1 every Saturday night. Stuart Murdoch, or as he prefers to be known now xvyw, is currently living in a monastery in Tibet." Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 19:42:39 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:42:39 EST Subject: Sinister: Top of the Chops Message-ID: evenin all. ok, i may well be very mistaken here, and if i am, you may beat me with a lamb chop... preferably on my bottom. :o) Were B&S asked to do a bit on Top of the pops on the release of the last single ?? but due to other commitments couldnt do it. If this is the case, will they have a little time to go on there to do Modern Rock Song.? I can just imagin the croud going from watching the tamperer sing some god awful tune, to seeing B&S. !! Jamie In my cd player - Eliza Carthy - Red Rice +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 19:53:22 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 14:53:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: now playing Message-ID: <36571A2F.1DB7@javanet.com> beacuse im bored and prolly only a few people on here ( i know at least a few do) know this band and many many more should im listening to Game Theory-2 Steps From The Middle Ages (Scott Miller has hair and a voice that anger me and make me jealous) not much else to say but check out Game Theory and the 90's version called Loud Family as for albums i could post them later if anyone cares ill go away now ----Ev -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" http://www.angelfire.com/ma/dixiecluck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From withnail67 at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 21:16:13 1998 From: withnail67 at xxx.com (Stephen Boyle) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 13:16:13 PST Subject: Sinister: the not so young ones Message-ID: <19981121211614.1863.qmail@hotmail.com> I turned 31 this year, so I guess B & S have put a dent in the over 30 set in NYC. But I did notice an inordinate number of early 20s types at the Nov 2 show in NYC. You may have noticed me, I was the geezer in the suit. Sorry for letting you all down but didn't have any time before the show to change. I did however, meet Lloyd Cole at a restaurant - and he's a fan! Anyone seen Roddy Frame lately?? Just some ancient thoughts..... Steve P.S. Friends from DC will be in NYC on amateur night (Nov 25) any advice for NYC listees for interesting bars off the beqaten track. HELP!! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cfan at xxx.ca Sat Nov 21 22:06:38 1998 From: cfan at xxx.ca (Cathy Fan) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:06:38 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S on Canadian TV Message-ID: <3657396E.4521@storm.ca> Saw the fantastic 'Is it wicked...' video yesterday on MuchMusic's The Wedge. I really liked the huge lion plushy; the Jean Cocteau reference was lovely as well. The show had an 'All-Scottish' bands theme, so there were some bits on Mogwai, Arab Strap, J&MC, and Teenage Fanclub. They were in Edinburgh and also did a segment on the deep-fried cuisine. That's some pretty hardcore batter that they put on those Mars bars. We use this wimpy, dry, bread-crummy stuff...which is still good, but only if you supersaturate it with evil oils. Yum. Anyway, perhaps if you bugged them (the website is at http://www.muchmusic.com/thewedge), they will play it again because the presenter lady seemed quite fond of the band and twitched furiously when she mentioned THOSE kilts. Ok, she didn't, that was me, but she seemed pretty excited while doing the short segue for the promo clip. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgockley at xxx.edu Sat Nov 21 22:20:25 1998 From: jgockley at xxx.edu (Jessica Gockley) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 17:20:25 -0500 Subject: Sinister: ireland Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981121172025.00697480@beacon.eastern.edu> Hello lovelies. I was wondering if you could give me a little bit of help. Oh, you could?! Wonderful! I am taking a class next semester called something like 'The Literature and Culture of Ireland.' This class involves a spring-break trip to Ireland, so sometime later on i'm going to want to converse with any and all Irish listees about cool places to go, possible meet-ups, etc. But anyway, one thing the professor wants is to have different people do presentations on different areas of Irish culture, one of which is contemporary Irish music, so i am wondering if some of you lovely listees could help me out with the names of lots of different Irish bands and musicians. I mean, the obvious ones would be, say, U2 and Sinead O'Connor, but i'm sure there are lots of somewhat less-obvious ones that it would be nice to have a bit of help with. Too bad the class is not 'The Literature and Culture of Scotland,' otherwise i would spend the entire time talking about Belle and Sebastian. Maybe i can figure out some way to work them in anyway. Hmm. Love, Jessica Foxinasnow "When you're dancing and laughing and finally living, hear my voice in your head and think of me kindly" - The Smiths Jessica Gockley | Box 326 Eastern College | 1300 Eagle Road | St Davids, PA 19087 | 610-225-5403 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keithmcl at xxx.net Sat Nov 21 23:38:52 1998 From: keithmcl at xxx.net (keith m) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:38:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: irish bands Message-ID: <36574F0C.6E4FA1BC@bignet.net> jessica wrote- >But anyway, one >thing the professor wants is to have different people do presentations >on >different areas of Irish culture, one of which is contemporary Irish >music, >so i am wondering if some of you lovely listees could help me out >with the >names of lots of different Irish bands and musicians. there is the frank and walters and the harvest ministers and the divine comedy all of which are from ireland. keith +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From igh1 at xxx.uk Sat Nov 21 23:48:04 1998 From: igh1 at xxx.uk (Ian Hatcher) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 23:48:04 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: irish bands In-Reply-To: <36574F0C.6E4FA1BC@bignet.net> Message-ID: DOn't forget those great bands - the Corrs and the Cranberries. Also the Carter Twins, B*Witched and Boyzone. Oh, Ireland is a hotbed for musical talent. No, really it is. PS Anyone who likes Irish music - don't worry, I'm only joshing ya. ---------------------- Ian Hatcher igh1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popscene at xxx.com Sat Nov 21 23:34:22 1998 From: popscene at xxx.com (me) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:34:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: irish bands Message-ID: <000c01be15a7$83c06b60$6a875ad1@alexisd> are the cranberries irish? have they been said? Lex -----Original Message----- From: keith m To: sinister at majordomo.net Date: November 21, 1998 6:39 PM Subject: Sinister: irish bands > >jessica wrote- >>But anyway, one >>thing the professor wants is to have different >people do presentations >on >>different areas of Irish culture, one of which is >contemporary Irish >music, >>so i am wondering if some of you lovely listees >could help me out >with the >>names of lots of different Irish bands and >musicians. > >there is the frank and walters and the harvest >ministers and the divine comedy all of which are >from ireland. > >keith > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From haajohns at xxx.net Sun Nov 22 00:11:08 1998 From: haajohns at xxx.net (Haakon Johnsen) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 01:11:08 +0100 Subject: Sinister: irish bands References: Message-ID: <3657569C.45728141@c2i.net> Ian Hatcher wrote: > DOn't forget those great bands - the Corrs and the > Cranberries. Also the Carter Twins, B*Witched and Boyzone. I don't really wanna send this mail just to say this one thing (people on this list receive enough mails as it is, and it's off topic as well), but Van Morrison is Irish and I don't know how many times better then the other artists that have been mentioned. He is really something you could write about. Astral Weeks is perhaps my favourite album of all times. haakon n.p / In my CD-player: Mercury Rev: Deserter's Songs (This one is still spinning in my player. Album of the year?) -There. My first posting and I got write say that Astral Weeks is one of my favourite albums, how great Deserter's Song is and I'm turning 18 on the 18th of March. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From yee_h at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 00:10:30 1998 From: yee_h at xxx.com (yee ho) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 16:10:30 PST Subject: Sinister: yoyo Message-ID: <19981122001030.26672.qmail@hotmail.com> jay-- very touching story (~: next time, look for your alterna cds at Other Music right across the street from Tower. 'boy with the arab strap' was around $10.99. since you're a hop, skip, and a jump away (i attend sarah lawrence college--30 min. from the city), we should definitely meet sometime! lurve, yee >Play. Welp, by the end of "Sleep the Clock Around," I >noticed I was getting some funny looks from the passers-by, and I started >flipping out, wondering what was wrong. As it turned out, I was crying. >I hadn't even noticed. It struck me by surprise cos when it comes to my >emotions I'm usually very stoic, and I really can't say what set me off. >I assumed it was the album, and I shelled out $16.23 to purchase it. >Since then, I've been playing it non-stop and eating my roommate's food. > >Just thought you'd like to know. I'm usually a lurker on these lists, and >I will inevitably be one here, but I just wanted to declare my intent. >So, that's that...can't wait to get the rest of the LP's and EP's, and >hopefully I'll be able to meet a few of you who are in the NYC area. > >P.S. I'm not usually this somber. As a matter of fact, I'm not usually >somber at all. > >Cheers >Jay >- ---------------- >"We're desperate. Get used to it." -- X ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Nov 22 00:25:59 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:25:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: they say that i am, but i really hope i'm not, the bastard son of dean friiiedman In-Reply-To: <199811201325030340.00E24373@204.96.36.40> Message-ID: <000601be15ae$adb89300$584d989e@elsato97> Hello! This is going to be shocking to > many and will probably irk even more people than I have already > irked, but, I am a punk rock goddess! I know, calm down. I sure > this is most shocking to the kid that wants to scold the > Northampton punk with coffee. Yeah yeah, bonkers man!!! A Punk Rock Godess who likes Belle and Sebastian.... keerazeeeee! There I was thinking B&S fans could only like The Field Mice and Duran Duran, but blimey my horizons have expanded!! Sorry! But, you know...what are you on about when you talk about 'punk' - shitty KERRANG! punk or, like...77 era punk? Shit, Belle and Sebastian fans INTRODUCED me to say, Buzzcocks, Big Flame etc - I just find it daft to think that people can't like two different types of music, or three, or nine or whatever! So, you're probably all thinking, > "Then why are you on this list," or "How do you like Belle and > Sebastian." No, me at least is thinking, why does this need stating? YOu said people would complain about what you said...what, people would complain about the fact that you like differnent types of music? If they did then they just stink of pedal pushers. I would complain if by 'punk' you meant RANCID or Insane 'very very silly boyz' Clown Posse, but merely cos they are very very pisspoor indeed and I would like to take away ICP's 'faygo' and watch them weep like big ol' smellheads!!! Anyway, I think B&S are one of the most punk rock groups around so there. More punk than fecking Goop Dogrill....what is their name? Groop Dogsmell?!?! HO HO HO wasn't that funny, ok....no.....i shall go....a far distance from here.... No offence intended to you Carmen but it's that idea of youcanonlylikeONEtypeofmusic that really bugs me. Can you projectile vomit long distances? That would win my admiration I am sure. Do you have a big huge mohican like the punks who tried to 'pull' with me and my friend the other day by stating 'hey girls we're lesbians do you want it?' and waving cans of special brew at us.... Me, I do not want to be a punk or a hippy. I want to be, a tomato.... (OK, so UK list dudes have to remember that advert for....oh whatever, the one with the dude going 'i want to be, a treee!' and the old lady goes 'i want to be in congolmerates', ALliance and Lester was it?? Some bank type thing...or the Co-op...) I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 02:09:20 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 18:09:20 PST Subject: Sinister: all i ever want to do is thank you,baby Message-ID: <19981122020921.17833.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello there! How are you all doing? there was some funny liyyl things i was readin in all the past digests :) keep up the good work! good for all you you had imaginary pets! althought i am a little worried about myself now...most of the stories are like "And then I turned 3,and my imaginary pet was gone" ..I invented my imaginary horse in grade 5! ahh well..I loved and hated my boyfriend and the same time,the girls were all bitches...invent a horse,yes! actually...I wanted an imaginary boyfriend,have any of you ever seen Drop Dead Fred? Well...when i saw that i fell in love with Drop Dead Fred and used to write letters to myself pretending they were from Drop Dead Fred.."Hello snotface" was very sexy to me at the time.. :) This list crush thing brings new questions..not only who the people are...but say your objet of affections has many crushing them? *digs around closet for catsuit and freddy-like claws* Come on come on,you want a piece of me? i'll take you on *punches the wall,practices ninja techniques etc* OH! O! O! O! I got to see Is It Wicked Not To Care least night...my first time ever seeing A Belle And Sebastian Video..... It was Scottish Hour on the Wedge..and first I have to vent. I hate that Sook-Yin so much! She's such an idiot! She pends all this time getting 'arty' and filming her reflection in a toilet bowl and then makes up such stupid questions...everything's always about 'decay'. every question is always like "I get the impression with your music that it's about decaying cities,trying to work throught the ruins,was that a catharsis for you?" 'catharsis' (that's misspelt i think) what a poncey word! and what is with her jabbing pop stars in the chest? grrrrr I got very excited when the video came on and started shrieking..ohhhhhh it looks so fairy tale like...stuart david i think and ? fighting with the wooden swords in kilts by the castles! i couldn't really tell who was who...was that the back of stuart murdoch's head? *faint!* (just kidding) I'm not that desperate,I didn't even lick the tv screen this time! (this time she says...ok yeah,i licked the tv screen when gaving rossdale played once...but i an idiot back then! a BIG idiot! i hate him now,what a potatoe,yes?) and all the beautiful scenery of Edinburgh! oh sigh...do you really eat fried mars bars? that's cant' be good on such delicate stomachs. ("Yes,that's right Genevieve,it's not good on little Stuart Murdoch's stomach." "Ok,I'll hand feed him peeled grapes then." "That's exactly what we were going to ask you.") any of you need nannies? I've decided,for my summer job I'm going to be an au pair in Edinburgh..it's so beautiful..your accents are so gorgeous it makes me jump up and down and round and round. they interviewed this guy from a band Prolapse,and they asked him what are Scottish things...and he's like "Truely Scottish are things like kilts...." "And your cliche Scottish would be Belle and Sebastian." heh heh my friend was being so awful though..when i pleaded with her to rewind and let me watch the b&s video again so i could go to sleep with good dreams...she put it on pause at the gate and said "Say Velvet Goldmine backwards and the gate unlocks for you...wooo!" i saw that movie and i didn't understand it,but i liked the part where Brian Slade gets hearts (they glow!) in his eyes...I laughed a lot during the movie.. And I thought when Ewan jumps around and puts glitter on his body was a a good scene,it was powerful. I had some important things to talk about..but now they just seem boring...lately I have been thinking how good it would be if pop stars had like rocket fuelled feet..i keep hallucinating that Brett Anderson says "UP AND AWAY!" puts his arms straight up and flys up through the night. O...MAGNETIC MEGAN! i've been drawing you pictures of belle and sebastian and now i can't stop..I drew a Stuart David,nipples and all. (to make it realistic) oh goodness,i just wrote a novel sorry! hot hot (cool cool) love, genevieve ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Sun Nov 22 04:12:08 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 20:12:08 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Isobel matador promo flat, b&s dolls, sociology Message-ID: <000501be15ce$46324b20$4311020a@rebelstrange> hello. thanks to all who sent in their mad lib words. i will have more entries posted later, but not now, because i'm just too lazy at this time to access my document of them....... I am fascinated by the discussion of sociological groups i.e. casuals. This intersects nicely with a question i was about to ask of our British compadres, that is What would be the british 'equivalent' of the american redneck/trailer trash? Is there trailer trash in the UK? i seem to recall an Auteurs song in which luke haines sang about hanging out in a trailer park (er, yes, "early years" it was). in the US our Southern region of alabama/missisippi/etc is considered the reign of rednecks and the underclass/undercultured segment. although rednecks can be found as far north as where i reside, in large numbers. Are there even still yuppies in the US, or havent' they all grown up into.....something else? i wonder what segment i fall into, i suppose the shiftless, goalless gen-X. although i do possess the cynicism of government and tradition attributed to gen-x, i'd like to think however that i'm a sight more idealistic than the portrayal of "us' would have one believe. personally i dont put much stock into it at all, so there. for Jess, from my webster's unabridged encyclopedic dictionary: QUIFF: (Brit.) a curl or lock of hair broought forward over the forehead. I love my dictionary because it has fun british slang in it.... Now for business--my friend Jess informed me that she saw in a record store, a promo flat for Arab strap that featured the divine countenance of Isobel, as seen in said cd sleeve....it was bright yellow colored and had belle and sebastian written on it. the record store guy wouldn't let her buy it off him because "it's kind of hot right now' and they only got one of them. it's from matador. Would anyone happen to know where one could obtain such an item, have one they're willing to part with, know if they exist in quantities? i'm prepared to trade my soul for one, or barring that, a lovely 8X10 print of Stuart murdoch, or whatever i can scrounge up. i just really really want one!!! and i dont' know if my friend will be able to acquire the one that she saw. someone help me........ I'll trade someone an original photo print, for a black sessions tape, if anyone is willing to make such a bargain. i've been twiddling in the darkroom at school, and stu and isobel are looking rather lovely in large format, i must say. upping the contrast is good. quantities are limited, as is my time and my supply of photographic paper!!! it was just a thought......otherwise i'll try l out to pay the good gentleman whom i already wrote about said recording. *g* it's just that international currency is such a hassle when you're in a small town that doesnt' handle that sort of thing. blah blah....... amusing thought for the day. jess and i were conversing about magnetic fields, a friend of hers is supposed to keep lookout for stephin meritt when she's in NY, and send him back in a little box if she finds him. so i said if she has stephin, i want to come over and play, and i want to play claudia, and i want to live in the dream house. then we thought up the ChickFactory playset, and jess said if there wer B&S dolls they could play the Dream Concert. i was wishing i had plastic mold technology so i could sculpt little dolls of our friends, figuring that at least a few of them correspond to certain characters n the Scooby-Doo cartoon--with dog on Wheels instead of scooby. Stuart m as Fred, not for any good reason, except his Arms of sex, and Isobel as Daphne, with the little neckerchief AS PER those photos on the jeepster page..(!) except stu and isobel would hopefully not be snogging like we all know fred and daphne were. Sarah would be Velma cept without glasses, and Chriss of course, is Shaggy, what with his flares and haircut. they could ride around in a belle ans sebastian mystery van and escape the Spooky Witch in a Sexy Dress, and The Major would run after stu shaking his fist..."i'll get you you meddling kids!!" Stu would of course be outfitted with an entire array of trousers and pantalloons in dazzling styles that would effectively blind the enemy, giveing him time to escape, and all the girls and boys would swoon over his arms of sex. you could even maybe comb his luscious shock of hair. and Chris would come in "Action-Flares" version. i was looking for some way to fit cover girl Jo and all the rest into the show, but i'll have to think about it some more. trying to live like Pippi Longstocking, lesley Jo Sure i should (be mentioned in the same sentence). I urinate all over Pansy Division and Tribe8 every day. I have their pictures pasted to the bottom of my toilet. --stephin merritt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From David_Yun at xxx.edu Sun Nov 22 02:35:03 1998 From: David_Yun at xxx.edu (David Yun) Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1998 21:35:03 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Isobel matador promo flat, b&s dolls, sociology In-Reply-To: <000501be15ce$46324b20$4311020a@rebelstrange> Message-ID: you wrote: >Now for business--my friend Jess informed me that she saw in a record store, >a promo flat for Arab strap that featured the divine countenance of Isobel, >as seen in said cd sleeve....it was bright yellow colored and had belle and >sebastian written on it. the record store guy wouldn't let her buy it off >him because "it's kind of hot right now' and they only got one of them. >it's from matador. Would anyone happen to know where one could obtain such >an item, have one they're willing to part with, know if they exist in >quantities? i'm prepared to trade my soul for one, or barring that, a >lovely 8X10 print of Stuart murdoch, or whatever i can scrounge up. i just >really really want one!!! and i dont' know if my friend will be able to >acquire the one that she saw. someone help me........ i write: i have three of the aforementioned isobel posters thinggies...where exactly are you if you wnat to trade? i got them in a record store in providence for $1 each... i think though that they may be for sale on the jeepster homepage as the backside of the poster is the picture of chris from the front of the boy with the arab strap...lemmie know id you are interested and we can trade... daveybrown :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- david m. yun po box 6245 brown univeristy providence, ri 02912-6245 david_yun at brown.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 22 04:20:27 1998 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 04:20:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: sebastian a dog? and other stuff Message-ID: <3657910B.DF365F2C@student.paisley.ac.uk> a few things - I am a first time writer to the person who wrote re Sebastian in Belle & Sebastian being a dog (sorry I deleted my inbox and forgot your name)- are you thinking of Sebastian the incredible drawing dog? Are there any Glasgow listees going to see Roddy Frame on Monday? Anybody wanting to send me tapes of any Field Mice/Trembling Blue Stars rarities please email me personally and we can arrange swaps for stuff I've got. Finally, any other Orchids fans out there??? Welcome to My Curious Heart is the most beautiful song B&S never wrote. Ailsa xxx incidentally I'm sagittarian and left-handed, anyone else? - we rule the school! in my CD player - "lazy line painter jane"(incidentally Monica Queen also recorded "five years and just one day" with a Glasgow folk/cajun/bluegrass band called the Humpff Family - lp called Mothers - copy if you email me... on my turntable - "coastal" - the field mice +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 05:30:51 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 00:30:51 EST Subject: Sinister: speaking to you like God Message-ID: Dear list, So. Still no crush votes to me. Pooey to you all! I'll up and quit this list now. Or maybe I'll just post more. Ha ha ha. Now I bet you'd voted my name in your ballot! I think one time someone mentioned the Aluminum Group, and I saw them on the listening booth in Borders Book Store. The card read something to the effect of the Pet Shop Boys getting it on with someone else I don't remember, in the Stereolab with Belle and Sebastian. I thought they sounded basically like Air. I didn't like it very much. I also saw TBWTAS on the listening booth, which surprised me a bit, but not a great bit. Then I ate a piece of cake that made me sick. Someone said something about cheese and giraffes. I don't know what they were talking about, but let me just add that cheese stands supreme over everything else. Never underestimate the power of cheese. Isn't gnocchi just grand? I had a dream that Stuart David was going to play Looper in my house, and when I woke up (in the dream that is) he was downstairs in my kitchen making schnitzels with confectioner sugar on top. Maybe he can write a song about it for Looper. "I dreamt I had to make schnitzels, I'm always getting on about making schnitzels through the day, but faced with the reality of it, in a dream, I was terrified.." I showed my mom the "Is It Wicked Not to Care" video when she was sick, and she doesn't think Stu M looks like an angel. But then, she likes "real men" like Sean Connery and.. Arnold Schwatznegggger.... Personally, I think Stuart's arms of sex are much nicer than Arnold's arms of steroid-pumped all- man one-foot in diameter ground beef. I've checked the archives for this one (honest!!!), but it either stopped checking midway, or no one ever mentioned it at all. And perhaps no one's ever mentioned it because it's obvious to everyone but me, who knows nothing but the color of my own socks. Soooo, who is Sid James? I'm off to do nothing productive, Tami In my CD player: Nothing. It's broken at the moment, so I'm reduced to radio, which is poo poo. Welcome to flavor country. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trarvild at xxx.se Sun Nov 22 13:23:25 1998 From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:23:25 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The end off The Fox In The Snow for Jessica Foxinasnow Message-ID: <199811221324.OAA26027@mb07.swip.net> Dear Jessica Foxinasnow I'm more like Katta with dreams of horses (but ofcourse Judy isalso a fox in the snow for me). I agree a lot with your thoughts about Fox In The Snow but I was disapointed that you stoped and left the fourth stanza that is the importent end in that song. I will add a few of my one ideas to what you alreadyn have explaind just so that I have enough to finish this song. It's no critic it's just a complement to your mail and I think its importent for this song. 1. A good start whit a picture to explain what sorts off persons the song is about. To all the otside persons that the crowd never will understand. 2 and 3. Two examples off fox in thesnow persons. I think this girl is like Judy. the boy is stuck in a hoples situation and it's not as ifit's fun anymore. I liked your kind explenation that he hurted his legwhen he falls of the bike but I have allways thought that he is constantly being beaten (parents or in school?)That why he trys so hoplesly to escape. 4. The the stanzas befor this has left everyting in a sad mess. Is there really no hope for the boy or all other foxes in the snow? Tere is a sort of good life forus. the foxes don't want the same dull life as most peoples live for following oter peoples beaten track, it wont make the foxes happy. He maby youst ones in a liftime get hes chans so make the most off it. If you are second to being born and to dye no one will notis you anyway. Follow your one way is the only thing you can do. Now this is what I think the writer ment. Now I would bee glad if anyone wold help me and explain to me what you think the boy with the arab strap is about I can't really understand that story. And Jessica Foxinasnow I don't knowwhy because I don'tknow you but Ithink Ilike you. I just wanted you to know that. Katta (with dreams of horses) P S Yes it is true I do dreamofhorses it is a part of the language of my thoughts. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 22 15:32:41 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 15:32:41 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sid James snarls like punk grrls Message-ID: <199811221526.PAA27093@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> I appologise for the Jive thing. I've just had a look in the archives and, well, I must have been unsubscribed or not paying attention or anything. Still, it made me giggle and that's what had it's say. Her most modest fluffykins snarled: > But, you know...what are you on about when you talk about > 'punk' - shitty KERRANG! punk or, like...77 era punk? Shit, Belle > and Sebastian fans INTRODUCED me to say, Buzzcocks, Big > Flame etc - I just find it daft to think that people can't like two > different types of music, or three, or nine or whatever! Yeah, yeah yeah, don't be too upset... I mean I sort of assumed when I came on her that people would be into "Glasgow Scene" music in general but, um, they aren't on the whole. I wouldn't say I'm into types of music at all - I'm sure a lot of people who see me in the street would assume I like a certain type of "indie" music but if there's one thing I cant stand it's the incredibly dull anal retentive guitar-rock peddled out under that heading. Truth is, if it's good it's good, if it isn't it isn't and genres are a misleading thing invented by some music journalist to make their job a little easier. Tami wondered aloud: > I've checked the archives for this one (honest!!!), but it either > stopped checking midway, or no one ever mentioned it at all. > And perhaps no one's ever mentioned it because it's obvious to > everyone but me, who knows nothing but the color of my own > socks. Soooo, who is Sid James? Let me get this straight - you don't know who Sid James is!?! Haven't you seen any 'Carry On' films girl? I suggest you point your browser to http://www.carry-on.com/ immediately for a lovely picture of Sid doing what he did best... Love WeeJay XXXXXXXXXXXX (Sebastian circa Put The Book Back On The Shelf) James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tjonrr at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 15:28:25 1998 From: Tjonrr at xxx.com (Tjonrr at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 10:28:25 EST Subject: Sinister: stuart david author Message-ID: <8c3d6ac7.36582d99@aol.com> i was reading this book of scottish short stories from 1995 and there was one by someone called stuart david it was about a man, a wee girl and two cheeky monkeys. i dont know if it is the same person but i know he writes stuff and the author information in the book said he is "a singer/songwriter in his own band" (bear in mind this was published in 1995). i have only been on the list since thursday (my birthday) and this is the first time i have had anything to say, i only just remembered it. from tjohn, yes i am lefthanded +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From XsuparadX at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 15:58:13 1998 From: XsuparadX at xxx.com (XsuparadX at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 10:58:13 EST Subject: Sinister: hi everyone Message-ID: Hello everyone, I just joined the list a couple days ago. My name is Mike, and I live near Philadelphia. I was wondering if anyone could recommend some groups someone that likes Belle and Sebastian would also like. I'm off to work, thanks in advance, mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Sun Nov 22 16:22:30 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:22:30 +-100 Subject: Sinister: RV: I?m sorry but..... Message-ID: <01BE163B.BEA63E00@Abonado-195-53-40-204.cat.es> I have to request again for Andras, the norwegian guy who asked me for the "Poupee de cire"cover. Your tape is made, but you will have to send me your address again, because the technology of computers is not a good friend of mine. Jordi. begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(B\0`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`$P!```!````# ````,``# "````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```'0`````````M3O"P"QW$!JAO @`*RI6PA4```!K%TNW-$O2$;$'1$53 M5 ``1( ```````"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'-I;FES=&5R(&UA:6QI M;F<@;&ES= !33510`'-I;FES=&5R0'!H+F5D+F%C+G5K`!X``C !````!0`` M`%--5% `````'@`#, $````5````2!B=70N+BXN+@```@%Q``$````;`````;X57,3N,&VV38%7$=*Q M"41%4U0````SQ>,1`!X`'@P!````!0```%--5% `````'@`?# $````=```` M,#(Y,3DT,F$P,4!A8F]N861OL"@P!0`O()`@!C: K `W!P*9 $D 0@*/$D@/LC`240 M;P1P(W (@2KQ+@&R;0N 92X:_![U2 at 6P7&1I,)8?;R!_(!4Q``$U, ,`$! ` M`````P`1$ $```! ```#T``0````4` ,``!25CH@`````+3& ` end +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 16:55:50 1998 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 08:55:50 PST Subject: Sinister: hi everyone Message-ID: <19981122165551.22597.qmail@hotmail.com> > >Hello everyone, I just joined the list a couple days ago. My name is Mike, >and I live near Philadelphia. I was wondering if anyone could recommend some >groups someone that likes Belle and Sebastian would also like. I'm off to >work, thanks in advance, mike sorry peeps, I dunno if this is really for the list but thought I'd share with you all what I'm into (you back there, stop groaning:) As some listees already know Mike, I'm pretty crazed about Belly and Tanya Donelly (I preached about her in a previous post) If you haven't heard of her or them, you really must go out and buy yourself a copy of "Star" and have your breath taken away by this deadly effective combination of wonderful tunes and sinister fairy tales. Then go and search out her solo effort too- "Lovesongs for Underdogs", which will render all those moronic Alanis-ites even more useless if that is possible. MOst listees I'm sure have pretty varied tastes, so I'm just gonna share some of the more eclectic and disparate bands I'm into. One Dove are another band I've preached endlessly about. They make unspeakably gorgeous ambient techno (with lovely melancholy lyrics) that capture the spectrum of human emotion much more effectively than 99% of techno bands. Sadly they are no more, but "Morning Dove White" their one and only album is a thing of perfect beauty. Go buy it. Teenage Fanclub, Tindersticks, Spiritualized, Air, Black Box Recorder, Lamb, Palace and Sparklehorse are bands that can't be more highly recommended and are thoroughly essential. And not to be snobbish, there is a lot of 'big', 'commercial' bands that are magnificient also like Radiohead and Garbage. Anyway that's what I am listening to (though there are definitely quite a few more bands that I love but have neglected to mention). Nick Drake is definitely essential, being godfather of all things folk. it's a bit wierd I guess. Whenever i post, it's usually to rant n' rave about some band or the other. Hope the listees out there forgive me:) But I can get quite passionate about music (hmm have I said this before?) I'd like to share B&S stories or talk about list crushes and up my 'smut' factor but I can never find anything to talk about in those areas:) It's also hard to share B&S stories when the probability of B&S touring Western Australia are next to nil (sob boohoo) So I'll live vicariously thru everyone else I guess:) So I also guess I'll NOT be getting any list crush votes, unless anyone fancies a music freak! Anyhoo, that's all i gotta say for now. Welcome to the list Mike:) Hope you like it as much as I have seeya folks, Kin Woo With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 17:20:10 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:20:10 -0500 Subject: Sinister: hi everyone References: <19981122165551.22597.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <365847B9.5043@javanet.com> <<>> WHOOHOO ive beeen meaning to plug these guys/this guy, if i already did whoops but i agree the first albums i one of the best of the decade and i will go tooth and nail for it RAAAWR im not gonna bother going into details cause everyone should just go buy it the album is called Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot (one word) they have a new album i hear but i havent sene it around though i remeber seeing an ep at Other Music months ago so they should have the new album yah guess that's it "The parasites will love you, when you're dead, la la la la la" Sparklehorse-Rainmaker -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" http://www.angelfire.com/ma/dixiecluck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Sun Nov 22 17:32:10 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:32:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: hi everyone Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC7D@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> >Hello everyone, I just joined the list a couple days ago. My name is Mike, >and I live near Philadelphia. I was wondering if anyone could recommend some >groups someone that likes Belle and Sebastian would also like. I'm off to >work, thanks in advance, mike Hey Mike, I don't have much time but if I should recommend one thing this is The Lucksmiths. You can order their records at www.candlerecords.com.au Clem +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 17:47:56 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 12:47:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister:  Message-ID: <199811221248_MC2-611B-59C5@compuserve.com> Hi All, PyJama Miller wrote CD 1 of the Booker T and the MGs annual set . CD 3 features Boz Scaggs. Sounds like something you have to go to the vet with. Have Splat and Pish had their Boz Scaggs jabs yet? Boz Scaggs used to play in the Steve Miller Band for a while when they were good, c 1968. The album called just Boz Scaggs (sorry, just can't bring myself to type eponymous) is a little gem with backing by the Muscle Shoals (didn't Captain Chris once say that he admired these guys?)house band featuring lots of Duane Allman dobro and slide guitar. There's a 13 minute version of Loan Me A Dime with blindingly intense playing by Duane, rendered all the greater when you know that as he played so loud they had to shut him into the toilet so the rest of the band could hear themselves. Much later Boz recorded a disco album called Silk Degrees: What Can I Say was a minor UK hit (1976?) Michele Waggner & the Slow Giraffe Dreamer yearned for incense & communes. When we were at school we used to have a camp and a treehouse in the woods and would hang out there trying to be hippies. My mate Alan had all the Incredible String Band albums: I just bought 5,000 Spirits because of the cover (and First Girl I Loved). Played it the other day and its still (mostly) listenable. Perhaps it would sound better if I took it out into the woods, or into Honey's Perfumed Garden. (Blimey, I didn't realise that he had written that as well! Honey had better watch out, too, or that policeman with the wonky helmet will be after those tabs concealed in his skiddies.) Haven't heard any of other ISB records in decades. Sad to hear tales of now portly Evan Dando being a yob at the Supper Club. Seemed like a nice bloke when I've talked to him at gigs, despite his interest in Charlie & The Family, He even called me Sir. Such a well brought up young man. Went to see Hefner & Cinerama last night. Hefner better than I've heard on record, Cinerama fantastic, 14 songs, all great. I like new widescreen pop crooner Gedge better than his growly twin. I aked him what he thought of the Wedding Present tribute album, which I received recently (bargain: 12 tracks for only £2.95, and some of them are even good!). He likes Convertible by Frigidaire best, I go for the version of Blue Eyes by Jet Assembly, in a sort of Come On Eileen stylee. To finish with name dropping I talked to Damon Albarn's dad the other day and he's a nice geezer too. Enough of this rambling, what about Belle'nd S? Big Stu/Mystic Smegma wrote of the 2013 "Best of" album. In my role of B&S evangelist I have a 90 minute casette of which to give copies to likely converts. I haven't updated it for some months, so it still contains: Dog On Wheels/String Bean Jean/State I Am In/Expectations/Electronic Renaissance/I Could Be Dreaming/We Rule The School/Stars of Track & Field/Seeing Other People/Dylan In The Movies/Fox In The Snow/IYFS/Mayfly/LLPJ/Photo Jenny/Century of Elvis/Modern Rock Song/Slap The Cock Around/Century of Fakers/Le Pastie. It needs updating, but what to throw out? The arrival of SMUTTYBUS doesn't present too many problems, as I only like 5 songs (S!H!O!C!K! - 700 bad mails coming) and 1 is on already. So if I add Is It Pretty Not To Smile/Ease Your Feet Into the Sea/Dirty Dream and TBWTAS itself, plus Pocket Book Angel and I Know Where The Summer Goes which I acquired recently (take a bow Jake), what has to go? First thoughts are E. Renaissance/Dylan In the Movies/IYFS/Century of Broccoli, but then I'm stuck. Whats the perfect 90 minute Best OF? Advice welcomed, especially to avoid wasted minutes of silence at the end of each side. Thanks, David Moore Chelmsford, UK In the cat: Chicken & Kidney in Gravy - Felix +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From liquidation at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 02:02:55 1998 From: liquidation at xxx.com (Danny) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:02:55 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Bobby Conn Message-ID: <199811221800.SAA12501@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Wheres Tag when you need him? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From popscene at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 18:03:36 1998 From: popscene at xxx.com (me) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:03:36 -0500 Subject: Sinister: hi everyone Message-ID: <001001be1642$7108b040$57855ad1@alexisd> i just joined too. but i have had nothing to say. i'm from canada. one singer that kind of reminds me of belle and sebastian is rufus wainwright. he's a canadian singer and he's recently (?.. sometime this year at least) released his debut eponymous album. other bands i like are air, the divine comedy, blur, pulp, david bowie, sean lennon, beck, radiohead, etc.. my tastes are too varied to really give any other hints. but you might want to try rufus :) is it generally considered that TBWTAS is better than IYFS? cos i like IYFS more, but everyone i've talked to, exclude person, says they like the other more. hmm. Lex http://members.xoom.com/substitute/ >>Hello everyone, I just joined the list a couple days ago. My name is >Mike, and I live near Philadelphia. I was wondering if anyone could >recommend some groups someone that likes Belle and Sebastian would also like. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From evanbear at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 18:38:27 1998 From: evanbear at xxx.com (Evan Gregg) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 13:38:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: more sparklehorse Message-ID: <36585A1D.66C5@javanet.com> checked Sparklehorse's "more official than not" website which i never saw before because i think ultimate band list might have just added a card for it the site said that the new album Waking The Spider i think it was is out in UK and AUS but not till Jan 26th or whatever the closest tuesday to that date is, also there are three Uk singles that cost 10 friggin dollars each for two or three songs, at least at Newbury Comics (new england's premier bull shit trindie rip off store that likes to raise prices then lower them and say they're having a sale and that sells anything with an import sticker at about twice the price even when they have a whole bunch of them, for instance Tindersticks-curtains on vinyl for $26 and everytime someonee bought one the next day there would be a new one though TBWTAS was the #1 selling record in the store that's little consolatioon since that just means there are B&S fans hiding somehwere in this town) typical that an album (vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot) which was on virtually every top album list by any reasonably sane reviewer for 1996 would be released later in the US stoopid americans "Football epitomizes the American way of life" (secret service director who switched to head of security for a football team (american football of course) (thats scary) that was slightly random, oh well i need to brush my teeth ----Ev np-Mercury Rev-Deserter's songs (i think its lodged in my cd player, only time ive listened to anything else in past fewdays was when i was walking around and all i had was my walkman, and i listened to a Game Theory cd in the shower) -- I'm just a shy boy sitting in a house When everyone's gone >From now on ----Mark Eitzel: "Blue And Grey Shirt" http://www.angelfire.com/ma/dixiecluck +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 18:52:25 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 10:52:25 PST Subject: Sinister: strange dream,what does it mean Message-ID: <19981122185226.2436.qmail@hotmail.com> i can't wait to take a bath today,i was supposed to buy some socks..but instead i went into that lovely Lush store (i could just buy everything there!) Blue Skies And Fluffy White Clouds Bain Moussant!...yes,anyways... :) I had a Stuart Murdoch dream last night,in fact it woke me up.I walked into my favourite record store,and instead of the usual boys working there,it was Stuart Murdoch,dressed in a silver tshirt. He tried to get me to buy a Placebo album.I got a bit angry,and then I noticed he looked ill..i asked him if there was anything I could do. "No No NO!" he said kind of snappy,and I was a bit hurt,so I took him by the hand,gave him some blue pills and he winked at me and said he was going to lie down for a bit,in the storage room. I was very relieved,as I would do anything to make sure he was comfortable,then for some reason Minnie Driver walked by all snobby and Stuart sighed and went "Indeed,she is the olive of my oil" and I felt jealous. Stuart then asked a favour of me. "Anything for you" I said. He asked me to pose as him for an interview with Q. I got there,and the Q Interviewer man was all jolly and right-o ol chap...and suddenly i felt like i was in a sitcom "Hillarious mixups! He doesn't know you're not Stuart Murdoch,but the audience does!" And I made all types of embarrasing mistakes,he asked me about the first album and I was like "Oh yes! Elephant Milk!" the olive oil bit confuses me,it sounds almost smutty... I have consulted Zolar's Book Of Astrology,Dreams,Numbers & Lucky Days for other bits we have been wondering about. to dream of horses:These animals are generally good signs but the colour must be noted,such as black,white,brown and so on.This affects the omen.If you are riding a horse and are thrown,it is a bad sign.If someone on horseback comes to visit you,expect new from a distance.It is a very lucky dream to dream of a horse being shod. olives: An omen of peace and happiness in domestic life. honey: If you eat honey honey,it is a good sign.As the bees are industrious so must you be,and then you will thrive. i've got so much honey,the bees envy me xxxx genevieve p.s i heard this song on the radio and i was wondering who it's by...it goes along the lines of 'walking in the rain with the one i love' and theres this telephone part the girl calls up her man "baby,i'm home,i've got something to tell you..." "what?" "i lovvve you" "i love you to,did you get caught in the rain?" "Yess..and it was so beautiful,let me tell you how it began..." ??? ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sclark at xxx.uk Sun Nov 22 19:22:07 1998 From: sclark at xxx.uk (sclark) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 19:22:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the not so young ones References: <19981121211614.1863.qmail@hotmail.com> <365860E5.75AD@athene.co.uk> <365863B1.7B45@athene.co.uk> Message-ID: <3658645F.4B23@athene.co.uk> sclark wrote: > > sclark wrote: > > > > evenin' all... > > > > Stephen Boyle wrote: > > > > > > I turned 31 this year, so I guess B & S have put a dent in the over 30 > > > set in NYC. > > > well as a long time lurkey l reckon l can add a couple of years to that tally which must mean not all us oldies are sad and boring doesn't it?? > > > Anyone seen Roddy Frame lately?? > > > > > yes,yes,yes,....saw him at the wedgewood rooms last monday and altho he > > is looking just a tad umm! thin??...or whatever... these days..... the > > voice and guitar playing has lost none of its magic... > > > > > Just some ancient thoughts..... > > > > > and just a few even more ancient ones l guess! > > > > kisses > > sue > > > -----------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mkl206 at xxx.edu Sun Nov 22 19:53:59 1998 From: mkl206 at xxx.edu (**Megan Lehar**) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 14:53:59 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: hey baby, i'm gonna make you a staaaaaaar Message-ID: hello you sillyheads, well, today is all about homework. actually, yesterday had a lot to do with homework too, so this isn't so shocking. but anyway i've been trying to think of an idea for my final film. i was actually thinking on friday and got the idea to make a musical number. basically it would involve all of my friends making a valiant attempt to dance. choreographed to "he's on the phone". however, i have found just about *no* interest. most people are busy, the others are just refusing to dance. how poncey. i know that if keith were here he would air guitar like one mean mothafucka. and i'm sure that tag would not let him dance alone. soon any number of R!U!L!E!R!S! would come into action. perhaps mr miller would fly in from sunny spain to go head to head in the british isles airguitar championship. ah, to dream.... anyway, if anyone has a good idea for something that's feasible to film, feel free to share. so i don't die of lack of final project. hmmm, i thought i had other things to say, but i'm having problems remembering them. i'm glad that genevieve is posting to the list again. what would i do without her imaginary boyfriends (though drop dead fred scared me, he could fold himself into a box and things like that just aren't right) or pictures of stuart david's nipples? and genni, i really need to see that. i went to a record fair yesterday, though i didn't see any copies of tigermilk. that's ok, i couldn't see myself buying it for some inflated sum, especially with the rerelease. i bet the band member who sold his to the used store before it was released (according to the sleeve notes) is really sorry now. that should be a lesson to you all, keep records taht you play on, in case they become terribly rare and sought after less than two years after the initial release. well, maybe a little more, but still the band released that in '96. that's an amazingly large amount of stuff to put out in a two year period, and an amazing distance to travel. from being a band no one knows of to being on the tip of the tongue of all those in the know. er, so to speak. ;) i'm slightly biased on this one. allright, enough dawdling, time to work on homework. xox megan mkl206 at is8.nyu.edu visit the magnetic fields web page at: http://www.dissemination.com/megan/magneticfields/ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seaborne at xxx.nl Sun Nov 22 20:55:10 1998 From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:55:10 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Fashion question Message-ID: <000c01be165a$65bceae0$44866dc2@koen> Hi, I was wondering what the name is for a hooded coat which you close by putting bits of wood through loops of rope. Thanks, Koen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rwjf1 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 22 21:19:45 1998 From: rwjf1 at xxx.uk (Robert Fisk) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 21:19:45 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Visit this website Message-ID: Visit the site below. It is good - I'm not lying or anything. http://www.zyworld.com/perfect%5Fplan/Satin%20-%20PhotoC.htm Next time it will be better I promise. ---------------------- Robert Fisk rwjf1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tton at xxx.edu Sun Nov 22 21:48:41 1998 From: tton at xxx.edu (THAIAN N TON) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:48:41 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Fashion question In-Reply-To: <000c01be165a$65bceae0$44866dc2@koen> Message-ID: Koen wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering what the name is for a hooded coat which you close by > putting bits of wood through loops of rope. that would be a duffel coat? that's what i wear when the-winter-is-cold and with my fluffy red hat to keep old man winter at bay. & i thought gnocchi was made out of potatoes. but maybe cheese too. and my belle and sebastian moment of the day? i framed my flats of Twattybus and can see them every morning when i wake up, then listen to B&S on the bus cos it's nice on the back of a yellow school bus to be jiggling about thinking, "a mile and a half on a bus takes a long time.' yesterday i bought a peter rabbit bowl. maybe that's belle and sebastian too, then i can eat wonderful things in it. we listened to Twattybus all the way to delaware to buy the bowl. and new convert finds them fantastic as well. tidy (wee chi chi) xo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From seaborne at xxx.nl Sun Nov 22 21:55:24 1998 From: seaborne at xxx.nl (Koen) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 22:55:24 +0100 Subject: Sinister: re: fashion question Message-ID: <000d01be1662$cff99900$6d866dc2@koen> Ellen wrote: >does its look like the one that paddington bear wore? >although i have not a clue to the name of the piece of clothing, i was >wondering if that is the correct description It's indeed in a Paddington style. And thanks for Alan and Annie providing me with the correct answer: a dufflecoat. I was dredging my brains for the right word (in English; in Dutch it's a houtje-touwtje jas) ever since I bought it y'day -it started freezing this week, so it was a good time to get a new wintercoat- but I couldn't find it. Thanks again, I love you Sinister. Koen +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jmurphy at xxx.Edu Sun Nov 22 22:08:52 1998 From: jmurphy at xxx.Edu (Jessica Murphy) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:08:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Fashion question (fwd) Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:48:41 -0500 (EST) From: THAIAN N TON Koen wrote: > I was wondering what the name is for a hooded coat which you close by > putting bits of wood through loops of rope. Tidy / Wee Chi Chi answered: > that would be a duffel coat? that's what i wear when the-winter-is-cold > and with my fluffy red hat to keep old man winter at bay. I've also heard it called a "toggle coat," since the fastenings are named "toggles." > yesterday i bought a peter rabbit bowl. maybe that's belle and > sebastian too, then i can eat wonderful things in it. we listened to > Twattybus all the way to delaware to buy the bowl. As someone who's living in Delaware for the sole purpose of attending graduate school here, I'm fascinated by those lines! I think it's the least B & S-like place I've ever been, so I'm pleasantly surprised to know that happy TWATTYBUS listeners have been here and purchased Beatrix Potter stuff. Maybe I'm living in the wrong part of the state. jessica m +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Candyfuzz at xxx.com Sun Nov 22 23:52:15 1998 From: Candyfuzz at xxx.com (Candyfuzz at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 18:52:15 EST Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe me Message-ID: In a message dated 11/22/98 2:21:43 PM US Eastern Standard Time, sclark at athene.co.uk writes: << sinister at majordomo.net >> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 07:45:55 1998 From: Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com (Pinaplcrsh at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:45:55 EST Subject: Sinister: looking for a place to live/oakland/berkeley Message-ID: hi. sorry to send this to so many of you, but i'm looking for a place to live in the oakland/berkeley area. i'm looking to move as soon as possible, like even this week would be good. i'm a 20-year old girl with one very nice, calm, old cat. please let me know if you, or anyone you know, would be interested. hope to hear from someone soon. thanks for your time. *alyssa marie* +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From MEA98SS at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 09:42:54 1998 From: MEA98SS at xxx.uk (S.Sarkar) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:42:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dylan and mono Message-ID: <672CF0E4AED@valehouse.shef.ac.uk> Forgive for my ignorance, if this question has been asked before, but I am a new listee, I just want to know who does the Dylan in 'Like Dylan In The Movies' refer to. Also is anyone out there into anything as diverse as Mono, Tricky and Joy Division. Cheers, Sandip I've been waiting for a guide to come and take me by the hand ---Joy Division," Disorder" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 10:11:28 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:11:28 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Top of the Chops In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Maybe someone has already answered your question, as I had so many postings piled up in my box, that I have not read all of them arriving after yours.But yes, they were bound to play in Top of the Pops because of Lazy Painter Jane but it only got 41st not 40th in the charts. i doubt they would have accepted the offer, anyway Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Mon Nov 23 10:32:55 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:32:55 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Drowning in the Sea of Smut Message-ID: <01be16cc$a17b3ba0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> First off, congratulations to the Human Whoopee Cushion for sending in a message revolving entirely around football mere seconds after Ms Honey had warned us off such foolish actions. Adrian, you rock! Secondly, cheers to Big Taggle for a fine tape. I know what Tim Hopkins sounds like singing. I was expecting something like Arthur Mullard and Hilda Baker, but I was wrong. Genevieve, I don't who the phone/rain record you refer to is by, but if it's records with fragments of telephone conversations you're after, I recommend the Philly Sound "box" set. It's great, gets better all the time, and contains a written tribute from....Boz Scaggs! Thank you David Moore for the brief introduction to the world of Boz Scaggs. I shall keep a weather eye open for the album you mentioned, as I have long harboured a mild curiosity as to what Duane Allman sounds like. Nice to see Sarah back to her combative best, a savage, snarling ball of fluff! I like nine types of music, but I'm hoping to make double figures before Christmas. Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 10:46:35 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 02:46:35 -0800 Subject: Sinister: News of the World Article Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630471705@EDINBURGH> Did anyone see the piece on Belle & Sebastian in the quality weekly periodical, News of the World? Trust me I don't buy the crap, but read it after staying at a mate house over Saturday night. I was bemused by their apparent 'Exclusive' story that Stuart Murdoch, lead singer of Glasgow's trendy(!) band, Belle & Sebastian is a part-time janitor in a church (shock horror - we never knew that huh!). The piece was hilarious, and even included a mock-up photo of what Stuart might look like as a janitor!! Stay happy, Nhoj. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From u01cjtc at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 11:14:20 1998 From: u01cjtc at xxx.uk (Colin Campbell) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:14:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: they say that i am, but i really hope i'm not, the bastard son of dean friiiedman In-Reply-To: <000601be15ae$adb89300$584d989e@elsato97> Message-ID: On Sun, 22 Nov 1998, Sarah wrote: > KERRANG! Which reminded me of meeting bob, the bass player from top notch edinburgh band Idlewild, on friday. After signing my ticket for me, I explained to him how good it would look beside my flat's safeway reciept signed by the stereophonics on our kitchen wall. And he replied, " I fucking hate the stereophonics, they stole a kerrang award from us." What an interesting story that is colin, yes indeediedoo! I can highly recomend the idlewild live experience, to balance out the RAWK! nature of the gig I wore my lovely study at stow T-shirt, the ultimate mosh pit weapon. colin. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From l.r.beattie at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 11:17:53 1998 From: l.r.beattie at xxx.uk (Lennox Beattie) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:17:53 GMT Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0042620C@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Message-ID: . But I have a dream. And dreams come true. Didn't John Gordon Sinclair sing that on TOTP once? Was he singing about wet dreams? How do wet dreams come true? I don't understand that. Am I stupid? Not as stupid as whoever thought Clare Grogan fancying John Gordon Sinclair was believable casting. I think the actual line was i have a dream if dreams come true then bonnie scotland we'll score the winning goal for you , Scotland world cup song in 1982 and anyway why wouldn't Clare Grogan fancyJohn Gordon Sinclair , Trevyn McDowell off LOved by You does and she's a sweetheart. If the Scots are going to 2002 i'd tell your friend having been part of the tartan army last year to be more worried about running out of beer and outbursts of crap singing especially do a deer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 11:28:21 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:28:21 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Top of the Chops References: Message-ID: <365946D5.E8FCD1F3@jeepster.co.uk> hello ... Niceaction at aol.com wrote: > Were B&S asked to do a bit on Top of the pops on the release of the last > single ?? but due to other commitments couldnt do it. If this is the case, > will they have a little time to go on there to do Modern Rock Song.? I can > just imagin the croud going from watching the tamperer sing some god awful > tune, to seeing B&S. !! To be considered for TOTP you basically have to debut in the Top 20 with your midweek and not go outside the 30 ... so, B&S haven't really been eligible up until now, and neither will they be with the "This Is Just A Modern Rock Song" EP as it is four tracks. (for those of you who are unfamiliar with the UK chart rules, a single may only be eligible for the charts if it is 3 tracks and 20 minutes maximum). Belle & Sebastian have always said that if they get asked, they will play TOTP ... hopefully we'll get a chance with the next EP (which, btw, i have no idea what's on it, and indeed if/when it will be released). cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 12:12:47 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:12:47 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Archives Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C6F@COR-EXG1> Honey (must be a newby) wrote : Wouldn't it be funny if we all found out we were wearing the same underwear right now? It could happen...stop laughing, it COULD. We could have an underwear tree - we compile a list of addresses and send one item of underwear on to the next person every fortnight. READ THE ARCHIVES. Timothy H!O!P!kins started an underwear tree after the Leeds show, and nobody else joined in. In fact I have it on good authority that Ed Mason was in fact so scarred by the discovery of Mr P!O!O!kins panties that he has since upped sticks and moved to Outer Mongolia where he stalks cattle. Alex Arnold wrote : >And handy little holes you can hide things in, and you don't have to be >thirty feet tall to reach it. You can also keep it in your fridge - when >was the last time you saw a Giraffe in your fridge ??? What if the cheese has Bob Mould, of Husker Du fame? I hardly think he'd fit in the fridge. He would in a SMEG fridge...have you seen them ? Wonderful. Chris Butler wrote : probably not true of soccer (football) players who have to learn how to use both sides of their bodies well. hands are not the only appendages. In my experience most footballers don't actually know their left from their right so they don't count. Jessicafoxinasnow wrote : so i am wondering if some of you lovely listees could help me out with the names of lots of different Irish bands and musicians. I mean, the obvious ones would be, say, U2 and Sinead O'Connor, but i'm sure there are lots of somewhat less-obvious ones that it would be nice to have a bit of help with. Jessica I strongly recommend you seek out and enjoy some Fatima Mansions, and then If you will, some Microdisney. I promise you won't be disappointed. Someone mentioned going to B&S in a suit....smashing !! It's just so much more respectable than a cardigan :) Adrian.x.x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From eng98ajo at xxx.se Mon Nov 23 12:25:41 1998 From: eng98ajo at xxx.se (Anna J) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:25:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: B&S go Massive Attack! Message-ID: Hi people, I thought I'd let you all know about this pretty great, but slightly peculiar B&S concert I went to last night as I was profoundly asleep in my freshly laundered sheets. They were playing in this old gym hall in a school not far away from here, and the room itself was pretty interesting, it was round and had lots of lockers in the middle so the audience had to stand around them. The place was packed, but most people didn't seem to know who B&S were. Anyway they got up on stage, and Stuart Murdoch (who, by the way, had grown his hair long and dyed it darker) announced that only half of the show would be B&S songs and for the rest of the evening they would be doing Massive Attack covers. Interesting choice I must say. Also they had this extra singer with them just for the occasion, who looked sort of like Jarvis Cocker 200 cream cakes later, who actually never got to sing and seemed quite grumpy about it. Then they started and even the B&S songs (they started out with "Le Pastie...") sounded like strange copies of Massive Attack. Imagine that please. After five or so songs they all went off stage for half-time as they called it and most of the audience left. Pretty soon, only a few people were left and I discovered that Sarah Martin wasn't on stage and I got all worried and someone else was missing too (I can't remember if it was Mick Cooke or Stevie Jackson), but this old man standing next to me told me it was ok because they were on holiday in Trinidad & Tobago and that there was a rumour that they were smuggling Scottish toys into the country. Then after the show Isobel jumped off stage and ran around hugging all the people who were still there, because she was so happy that we'd stayed till the end. Now, who wouldn't if B&S were doing Massive Attack-covers??? Also there's something you should all know about Isobel, after a while she took her plastic mask off and it turns out she's actually 70 years old. Pretty clever mask if you ask me. Dreams really are terribly enlightening. Now I wonder if B&S are popular in Trinidad & Tobago? Never mind me, Anna :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 12:32:59 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (John Johnston) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:32:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Sinister laugh-in Message-ID: I saw Alix's message "how can you tell if you've got mumps" and I thought "coz there are footprints in the butter". I fear I'm getting my jokes mixed up. This is just to say that I've arranged a special Sinister List discount at my comedy show this Thursday in S. London. Just mention Sinister at the door and you can get in for £3 instead of the usual £4. Outstanding value, I'm sure you'll agree. So if you fancy a London meet-up this week, please come on down. This isn't just a vain plug but the hope that we can have a meet-up before the social comes back. Twisted Nipple Improv Thursday 9pm (lateish bar!) Bedford Pub, Bedford Hill, Balham London - that's a right turn out of Balham station and it's 3 mins up the road, opposite Sainsbury's I didn't think of the name. xx John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Mon Nov 23 12:45:42 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:45:42 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Love it Message-ID: <4C3E07676FB@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> hmmm this is a story that kinda fits/doesn't fit here ..it is not Belle and Sebastian related at least not really about half a year ago a guy called Daniel mailed me ...about his literature group 'Gruppe '98' so I mailed back ,... I had a John Lennon song or rather a line from a J.L. song as my signature file back then so he mailed me a line from another song ... we did this for weeks then he suggested a date ... I went but didn't find him till the end when I met a guy called daniel but I got scared and ran away ...yes as in very fast ... in the car only I realised DANIEL oh shit We continued mailing .... then I didn't hear from him for 3 months (summerbreak shame shit in autumn then I met him by chance at a poetry slam (no he wasn't the guy I ran away from) and he acted as if he hated me ... spit in my ear and all that (he was only drunk but somehow I thought he hated me) anyway he mailed me the following week so he was unaware in who's ear he had been spitting ... I didn't mail back then cos I only felt like sending a very nasty line from a Placebo song about fools with small tools but this is not my style so I just ignored him Now last week he mailed again ..so I sent him a Belle and Sebastian line .... back to the same old shit and so on .... anyways ..... end of the totally boring pointless pathetic story love vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From acook at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 12:48:34 1998 From: acook at xxx.uk (Alasdair Cook MS1996) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:48:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Some replies Message-ID: <365959A2.BCC4EB0F@cs.strath.ac.uk> Someone mailed me to say that I was cool and should keep mailing (I will mail you back). I don't see it myself, but I have to respect the views of the people on this list, and as such, here it is, another mail. Ho hum, better get on with it.... Sandip wrote > I just want to know who does the Dylan in 'Like > Dylan In The Movies' refer to Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's THE Dylan. The song goes, "Don't look back, like Dylan in the movies" which would seem to be a reference to Bob's very wonderful documentary film of his 1965 British tour, which was indeed titled "Don't look back"(I think.....actually I hope because this theory kind of falls apart if it isn't). Has anyone seen it? I especially like the part where Dylan, Donovan, Joan Baez and some other people are sitting around and they ask Donovan to play a song and he sings "To sing for you"(which is very good) and after he's finished he asks Dylan to play "It's all over now, baby blue" and Dylan duly obliges, and its all fantastic. So there you go, question answered I hope.(Sorry I rambled on for a while there, but I do like to do that now and again) Also, here's another reply to Mike who said > I was wondering if anyone could recommend some > groups someone that likes Belle and Sebastian would also like Since I do like B+S(as is evidenced by my being on this list), I suppose I'm as good a person to answer as any. I certainly wouldn't dream of saying that all fans of B+S will like the same other stuff as me, but here's some bands/artists that I like anyway, in no particular order: Suede, Jeff Buckley, REM, Van Morrison, James Taylor, Super Furry Animals, Divine Comedy, Geneva, The Clash, Nick Drake, The Pixies, The Smiths, Orange Juice, Neil Young, Buffalo Springfield, Patti Smith, The Pogues. There are some others but thats all I can remember at the moment. Hope I've been of some use. Cheers Ally +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tjonrr at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 12:52:46 1998 From: Tjonrr at xxx.com (Tjonrr at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:52:46 EST Subject: Sinister: dundee Message-ID: <7376f667.36595a9e@aol.com> so i know im new and everything, but has anyone tried to explain to the americans on the list about Dundee, as mentioned in Seymour Stein? around here in the NE of Scotland Dundee is regarded as a bit of a dump. i live about 30 miles up the road, and that is quite close enough for me, thank you. has any one else ever been to dundee? didnt stay long, right? our local claim to fame is that the chip shop that i go to in Stonehaven is the one that invented the deepfried MarsBar, which someone was talking about the other day on the list. Actually thats the second nearest chip shop to my house, but we dont go to the one down the road ever since the fat kid that works there was caught by his boss... to paraphrase a hefner song... making himself go blind. Suffice to say, anyone who still goes there is careful not to ask for salad cream on anything. sorry if i have put anyone off their dinner, but every word is true. anyway ive digressed... the other thing about dundee is that B+S labelmates Snow Patrol from Northern Ireland have recently moved there and there is also a growing local music scene, so im told. last time i was there, bout a year ago, i couldnt even find any half decent record shops and this beardy busker made a sort of miaow/growl sound at my brother and we both ran away. if i have offended any dundonians i apologise, you have my utmost sympathy just living there. from tjohn on my stereo: too much maudlin music. i really should get out more. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 13:53:50 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:53:50 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: i haven't seen dundee - yet Message-ID: well thanks for the message Tjonrr at aol.com. i'm spending new years in dundee with a friend of a friend who i don't know to well and after you glowing recommendation i'm begining to think that maybe i've made a boo boo by booking my train tickets already. please tell me that dundee isn't that grim. anyone in the the dundee area want to meet up? i'm there form the 29th Dec to 4th Jan. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From his8jm at xxx.UK Mon Nov 23 13:55:11 1998 From: his8jm at xxx.UK (J. MURTAGH) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:55:11 GMT Subject: Sinister: film question Message-ID: <33DB6B331E@arts-01.novell.leeds.ac.uk> someone asked for an idea to a film or something to that effect. Well, being an attempted scriptwriter meself, I came up readily with an idea. Follow a person along the street with your camera, but of course he's an actor. You follow him and dodging away every time he liiks around. You follow him to some woods from quite away, and he starts digging, the camera starts to shake as the person secretly filming is nervous about what the subject is doing. You can end it in any number of ways but I'll leave that up to you. john +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Mon Nov 23 14:32:57 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:32:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: B&S on Canadian TV References: <3657396E.4521@storm.ca> Message-ID: <36597219.15C7D8E3@itl.ca> Cathy Fan wrote: > Saw the fantastic 'Is it wicked...' video yesterday on MuchMusic's The > Wedge. I really liked the huge lion plushy; the Jean Cocteau reference > was lovely as well. The show had an 'All-Scottish' bands theme, so there > were some bits on Mogwai, Arab Strap, J&MC, and Teenage Fanclub. They > were in Edinburgh and also did a segment on the deep-fried cuisine. > That's some pretty hardcore batter that they put on those Mars bars. We > use this wimpy, dry, bread-crummy stuff...which is still good, but only > if you supersaturate it with evil oils. Yum. Hmm. Perhaps MuchOnDemand will begin getting a mysterious fax campaign requesting they play B&S until I see it, and considering I don't watch much (pun intended) TV, they'll just have to keep playing it until, by law of averages, I see it.So exactly what day is the Wedge on? I keep forgetting if it's Friday or Saturday night, and I always seem to tune in on the day that it's not on, and get assaulted by the appropriately titled "Loud" (metal for days). NOt what I need late at night.... And yah, Sook-Yin's an idiot - though I'm not sure how much is her fault and how much is Prime Directive from Moses upstairs ("we want kooky! Slip some speed into her coffee..."). I remember the one time she interviewed Lush, and the best question she could come up with was, to Miki, "So what do you use to dye your hair?". I'm surprised she didn't get decked, cause Miki was looking thorough unimpressed in a "let's get the fuck out of here" way. And on a separate note, I bought "...Seconds Of Light" this weekend. Mmm, new B&S. Happy days. Also got Sparkehorse, the new Spiritualized live and the new Golden Smog. Good music haul. That is all. Frank Yang "What's this about Matlock?" In my CD player: Sparklehorse - Vivadixiesubmarinetransmissionplot -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 1820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From wizzcake at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 15:18:05 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:18:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: carried away on irsh bands Message-ID: <19981123151806.29948.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> jessica - yikes....cool irish bands include: a house an emotional fish aslan something happens the stunning engine alley john holmes experience the fountainhead virgin prunes thin lizzy the undertones / fergal sharkey the pogues microdisney / fatima mansions the harvest ministers the frank & walters blink into paradise hinterland brian the fat lady sings the coletranes the catchers the floors divine comedy the golden horde the forget me nots luka bloom's "the accoustic motorbike" is *so* worth checking out. gawd, i used to follow the stunning (galway) around when i when to school...i was kind of obsessed with the singer steve wall....they released a mini album in 1990 called "paradise in the picture house" which is fairly difficult to get outside of the homeland but is definately worth tracking down for the title track alone...gorgeous melancholy lyrics sung by the honey-sweet tawny voice of sexy sir steve wall. ah, memories! a house (dublin) released one of my favourite albums ever, one of the most original and under-rated bands ever...definately get a copy of "i am the greatest"...their other stuff is very hit and miss - but IATG is a safe bet. i hear they broke up last year and the singer, dave couse, is working on a project with briana corrigan (who used to be in the beautiful south when they were good). engine alley were a band of kilkenny freakazoids who released a decent album in 1992 called "a sonic holiday" which had a great lead single called "mrs winder"....they had to go through all the typical bullshit irish bands do...the obvious "next huge thing" pressure etc. anyhow, it looks like their record company dropped them 'cause i haven't heard anything of them since that album was released....oh YES I HAVE - they had an excellent single called "switch" which i don't have a copy of. that single was bloody brilliant come to think of it. canice, the lead singer, was a bit hot actually and when he sang "switch" he pronounced the word "radio" like "ray jo" in the cutest possible way. bless his little heart. that single came out in '94ish....but that was it. the band themselves looked as if they were modelled on early split enz (ooooh boys in make up - how *daring*!). it was really sad - everytime they appeared on tv they all wore exactly the same thing...i understand the need for consistency but their record company just (what we call in ireland) "mean cavan bastards" something happens looked like bon jovi. (i think they were from dublin)...they released a nice album called "struck together with gods glue"...and followed up with some dreadful rocker album with a chicken on the cover (AVOID AT ALL POSSIBLE COSTS!!)...they got back on form at the end of '94 and released "cc incidentally" and i have no idea what happened then. the forget me nots were *gorgeous* sisters and released one of my fave irish singles "so good"...they released an album called "hullabaloo" which had it moments but didn't have me popping open bottles of bubbly with excitement as it's title might suggest. an emotional fish were dubbed u2 wanna-bes because they were on the mother label initially. they released a huge single called "celebrate" which was kinda cool and their debut album (an emotional fish") has some lovely sweet songs on it like "julian" and "lace virginia". nice. went awry on the follow up album and were dropped (i think) by mother. third album was such a change in direction...they became indie rockers and shopped in second hand stores....released a gorgeous & *fabu* single called "times on the wall" (or something like that) and i've heard nothing since...that was '95ish i think. into paradise were another one of my fave bands...i was so upset when they split up....they played a farewell show at the rock garden on crown alley. they had a beautiful single "why don't you". john holmes experience were a teeny weeny band who had a great song about a girl who had "perfect nails". ah, the hits hurt. the catchers have a new album out...i had forgotten they existed because the last time i saw them they supported a house at the garage in london - 1994 - i guess i had a crush on alice lemon. she had enormous boobs i remember. and a too-small top. saw the new album in rough trade the other day and nearly fell over. i will purchase when i hear something about it. the floors were from carlow and released a mini-album on the setanta label ("truths and distortions") which is worth hearing for (a guesting) maria mckee singing the line "oooh i love your ears, i love your eyes....c'mon let's rip her to shreads!" heh heh...they recorded some sessions on the dave fanning radio (ray jo) show...one track was called "thanks, i'm speechless" and was so yummy and showed off david donoghue's amazingly under-rated song writing skill. the fat lady sings released the single "arclight" about four times before it became a hit. it's such an uplifting song...has the lines "shine like a book that's never been read, burn like a saint who knows he's right"....the album "twist" was eventually released and had some appaling tunes ("gravy train" being the main offender IMHO) on it but "be still" (later recorded by sinead, peter gabriel and some other famous celebrity types with heads up their own arses for the "peace together" movement), "dronning maud land" and "arclight" made up for it. it's worth owning. avoid the follow up "johnson"...the band were supposed to play on st patrick's night in 1994 at the mean fiddler in london but suddenly broke up and nick kelly (the singer) went back to being a lawyer....i think he released a solo album this year but i haven't heard it. the golden horde were another really great irish group...they released the most *fabu* single ever in the history of all humanity (ish) called "friends in time"...which was a duet with maria mckee (she gets around this chick, non?). simon carmody, the singer, is a bit of a glam merchant and i think i crushed on him for a while too despite the fact he looks like the arse end of a bus. i think they only released one album and it is so great! it has that amzing single i just mentioned and other toons like "paula" and "house of girls"...one of the tracks on the album has the line "that girl is like a coca-cola bubble bursting in my head"....ah the hits hurt indeed. i wonder if they are still together. they are a great live band. the virgin prunes were kinda original for an irish band and released a great album which i can't remember in the early 80's....sounds really kitch now tho'. they were fronted by gavin friday who had since released a couple of solo albums and had a minor hit single with "falling off the edge of the world" (which had maria mckee on it as well - such a musical slut!) which is a gorgeous song....however, gavin thinks of himself as a bit of an innovator / mover and shaker on the irish music scene....he gets a lot of mileage out of the u2 associations (he went to school with bono and the edge). i saw him perform once and the whole thing was so pretentious i just had to laugh. picture it: an irish man sitting on a stool on a darkened stage with only his face lit from below, smoking a cigarette in between reeling off shite lyrics about how he is a tortured soul...eeeeEEEeek! i forgot to mention the slicked back oily black hair, and the "i am so cool, i could be serge gainsbourg" tone. a horrible man who will one day surely have his comeuppance. everyone knows the pogues, hothouse flowers etc etc. the other night i was soooo smashed and wanted to track down shane mcgowan in a pub near the angel....i knew he drinks there coz i saw him a few times before. under the affluence of incohol (dilliberate error proof-readers!), and under dare by my pal will, i went up to have a chat with shane. and stayed with him until i was kicked out at closing time. it so sad - i am such a star fucker. damn. just can't help myself. blink were a group from dublin who sounded like nobody else from ireland at the time. i'm not sure if they are still together or if they ever released an album but "going to nepal" was a great single. they had other similiarly fab singles but never had a huge hit. damn. brian have just re-released their debut album which is really great. they have the greatest song ever (no mediocrity with me!) called "understand". i hope this is useful to you....i hope you'll love ireland - galway is my favourite city but dublin is really buzzing also - i try to go every few months. nearer the time pri.mail me and we'll organise a meet up. if you want some reccommendations on contemporary irish writers: john mackenna (a year on our lives), joe o'connor (secret world of the irish male, desperados, play: red roses and petrol), colm toibin (heather blazing, the story of night). lady penelope, gateau du wizz. _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cp83985 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 23 15:31:52 1998 From: cp83985 at xxx.edu (Carl Polgar Jr) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:31:52 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: b+s=belle and sebastian, r+b=ruth brown Message-ID: someone, maybe lesley, wondered what segment of the whole gen-x thing they fell into. my theory is that someone in my age group (around 21 or so) doesn't really fall into any generational category. to me, i'm too young to be a part of generation x (god, i hate writing that). while i am in my twenties, i think the term applies to those who were in their twenties during the early nineties, mainly those who were in their twenties when the term came into popular use and during the subsequent years after. in my little world, i narrowly avoided such a fate. i also think that people my age are too old to be a part of the pepsi-sponsored generation next, since that seems to apply only to pepsi's target audience of teenagers. so that's my theory. maybe i just came up with it as a way to avoid being labeled, which is not among my favorite things that i like to have done to me. my friends who are my age seem to agree with me. my older friends do not -- they happily tell me i'm a gen-x-er and that there's nothing i can do about it. boo to them. a cheap way of getting posters and flats of your favorite bands is to make friends with someone who works at a record store. record companies send out tons of flats, posters, stickers, promos, etc. all the time -- a couple of them stuff bumber stickers into their packages, i guess when they run out of styrofoam peanuts. i work at a rather, crappy record store (peaches music and video) and we keep everything the record companies send us in a big crate in our warehouse (hey, that was a really blatant run-on sentence!). since my store is rather sucky, though, we mostly get stuff from the major record labels. we don't deal much with matador so i probably can't get much belle and sebastian stuff (so you don't have to make friends with me). but cool stuff comes in every once in a while -- i got a really neat mini-comic book promoting the eels new album, and i have tons of free t-shirts from really crappy bands (if anyone wants a monster magnet t-shirt, just ask -- it's never been worn). one last thing, if you haven't seen "happiness" yet, go see it! now! i mean it. i don't want to bastardize any of the movie, so i'll just say, "wow, it's quite a movie". love to all, carl. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 16:42:09 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:42:09 PST Subject: Sinister: dancin' to b&s Message-ID: <19981123164210.5975.qmail@hotmail.com> do they play b&s in your indie club? i was so amazed saturday when nick mark put "the boy with the arab strap" on at tiswas here in nyc. of course i was drunkenly trying to win tetris and couldn't step it up on the dance floor. lorelei ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amarnold at xxx.edu Mon Nov 23 17:25:18 1998 From: amarnold at xxx.edu (Alex Arnold) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:25:18 -0600 Subject: Sinister: dancin' to b&s In-Reply-To: <19981123164210.5975.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981123112518.0069c354@students.wisc.edu> The clubs around here don't play B&S (at least not that I know of anyhow). But speaking of dancing to B&S, the piano part in Seeing Other People gives me a kind of Vince Giraldi Trio "Charlie Brown Theme" type vibe. Every time I hear it I'm forced to do a sort of shuffle like Schroeder does in the Peanuts Xmas special. Then girls named Lucy knock on my door and try to hit on me. I have to go know. The nice men in the white jackets say its time for my electroshock therapy. Cheerio, Alexander the occasionally great +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 16:19:56 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:19:56 -0700 Subject: Sinister: WARNING: High Smut Content Message-ID: Hello folks, Someone mentioned gnocchi, which is a wonderful cross between pasta and potatoes, is a fine alternative to pasta in many a cheese laden recipe, and also sounds a bit rude. Well, it does to me with my smutty mind anyway. Talking of smut someone asked about Sid James. This came up on the Tindersticks mailing list about six months ago, and it took me several weeks to come to terms with the concept that there are people around the world who have lived their entire lives without ever seeing a Carry On film. This is pretty unthinkable in the UK where scarcely a week goes by without one of them being dredged up to fill the TV schedules. Basically Sid James was a South African hairdresser with a face like a prune and the dirtiest laugh in the history of the world. He moved to England and starred in a load of tacky, camp, low-budget, poor-taste comedies. These were the Carry On films. Sid James dedicated his life to the pursuit of busty blondes, both on and off screen, so if he talks to you like God then I have nothing but respect for you. Not Piccadilly Records! How could they? I bought IYFS there in 1996. Twice. And now I suppose David will have to go round there with a big stick and beat them up for selling dodgy Tigermilk CDs. Fools! Like Carmen, Fluffy, Sister Disco, and probably everyone else here, I am fond of several types of music. In my case this is largely due to the cross-genre nature of smut. Can anyone recommend any particularly rude musician types that I might like? Mail me directly, as not everyone on the list has my high smut threshold. I for one was very sorry to hear about Fluffy's accident. I wonder if the knee injury in some way reduced her ability to encourage people to vote for her. It would appear so. I make no apologies for the smut content in this message, smut has a bona fide connection to Belle and Sebastian now that they have appeared in the News of the World. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 16:39:26 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 98 09:39:26 MST Subject: Sinister: beautiful south Message-ID: <9810239118.AA911846601@mail.newtimes.com> was wondering if anyone else on this list likes the beautiful south (and the housemartins, of course)... i was listening to "choke" last night and a couple of the songs reminded me of b&s musically, especially the bits with horns and strings..."i think tonight i'd rather love myself" really hit me after i listened to IYFS...maybe i was just way stoned...hmmm. am i alone? probably. what else is new? and to philippe...if you are still around, please contact me about b&s black sessions...i am curious. he is curious. she is curious. we are all so very curious. cheers.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From plaird at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 18:03:07 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (Paul Laird) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 98 18:03:07 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i haven't seen dundee - yet Message-ID: <199811231802.SAA25507@sioux.netdirect.net.uk> Sam Norman said, >please tell me that dundee isn't that grim. There's a joke down here in the Lothians that goes something like: 'I told my girlfriend to kiss me where it smells, - so she took me to Dundee!' hope I'm not putting you off Sam. The Lairdster. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 17:52:59 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:52:59 -0000 Subject: Sinister: P. Parrot can't come to school as she is in intensive care. Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2234A18C@server1.HITEntertainment.com> As I was the naughty boy who wouldn't read his Italian poems at university, only grudgingly doing so when made to stand in the corner with my trousers on my head (that bit was voluntary), I am probably not the best person to be prosthletising (*buggered* if I know whether that's spelled right) about the joys of rhyme and verse. So, erm, I won't. Not until tomorrow, anyway. You see, the parrot is unwell. She accidentally brutally fell down a flight of stairs before getting up, staggering about and walking into a door. Several times. As a result, she doesn't feel up to entertaining you all today, and has asked that you give her 24 hours to recover the use of her legs and the sight in her left eye. Poor psittacene. So apologies for now, and congrats to the rather saucy Lady P for the longest email in the world - EVER! Though anyone who recommends the Stunning may not be quite all there, so tread carefully, pop kids, or it may be Corrs hell for all eternity... Mark xxx Currently in my toaster: 2 slices of Mighty White +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kellym at xxx.com> Mon Nov 23 18:03:17 1998 From: kellym at xxx.com> (kellym at xxx.com>) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:03:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: csa Message-ID: <199811231806.KAA18774@macbeth.ienet.com> gateau du wizz wrote: |jessica - | |yikes....cool irish bands include: ... |the catchers ... |the catchers have a new album out...i had forgotten they existed |because the last time i saw them they supported a house at the garage |in london - 1994 - i guess i had a crush on alice lemon. she had |enormous boobs i remember. and a too-small top. saw the new album in |rough trade the other day and nearly fell over. i will purchase when |i hear something about it. Oh, oh, oh. I've been dying to recommend this album for the past two weeks but was brutally affraid people would think i was making stuff up in order to squandor your hard earned cash on something people have never heard of. BUT, I guess people do know of them so I shall heartily recommend it. Its a really hard album to lump into any set genre (file under easy listening?), so its a bit hard to find a context in which to put it in. It has some really beautiful sparse accoustic numbers filled with longing, love lost, love got, etc, as well as some sort of (don't make me say techno-ish) um... techno-ish (damn!) songs, but I say this in a very good way. Lots of violins and guitars and melody. It has a very good winter kind of feeling too it. The lead singer is male with a sort of um... irish i guess, kind of voice (does that make sense? he says "aout" for "out" hehe) and there is also a female who does some vocals. Pretty Pretty Pretty. Anyway, its by "catchers" and is titled "stooping to fit" and is out in the uk on setanta records. No US release has been worked out that I know of. -Kelly Ryan McGuire the not so indie rock critic +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Mon Nov 23 15:27:35 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:27:35 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dundee References: <7376f667.36595a9e@aol.com> Message-ID: <36597EE7.38A18C2E@jeepster.co.uk> (oh god, am i really this anal ...) Tjonrr at aol.com wrote: > anyway ive digressed... the other thing about dundee is that B+S labelmates > Snow Patrol from Northern Ireland have recently moved there ... well, they actually met + formed the band in dundee where gary & mark were at uni (even though they're all from northern ireland), but they've now moved to, you guessed it, glasgow ... cheers, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dove_volare at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 18:21:10 1998 From: dove_volare at xxx.com (yellow submarine) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:21:10 PST Subject: Sinister: why me Message-ID: <19981123182132.18251.qmail@hotmail.com> why is everyone so hung up on having a crush? "why is nobody crushing on me?" blah blah blah, is that all that is important in life, finding someone? sorry for my rather dark attitude, it's my current mood. does everyone on the list see their main focus in life to find that one person in life to be with? what is wrong with being alone? why does everyone try and set me up, when i don't want to be? what is wrong with enjoying your isolation? not wanting to go to some club every saturday night to watch druken slobs attempt to pick up the first girl that looks at them? does anyone else feel completely out of place in this world? kind of hate everyone and everything but i love them all the same? anyone read A Long Days Journey into Night? one character feels he would have been much more successful being something else, just not a human being. i agree. like that interpretation of Fox in the Snow. has anyone found a way to escape? i've travelled all over the world and attempted to get away but it is impossible. momentarily you can escape, but reality always sneaks back in. is it possible to find your soulmate? i think that is what my troubles are. if there is truely only one person out there for each of us, what is the likely hood that that person will be plunked down in the same city as you, when there are 6 billion people in this world? seems impossible. do you all settle for less? and i don't want to go to clubs anymore, all i want to do is sit in my room and cuddle my cat, the only one who understands me. i want to get piss drunk sometimes and not worry about ending up in some louts bed the next morning. i want to sit alone in the park reading or go to the movies by myself. i want to live my life happily but that doesn't seem to be happening. oh i get into these moods sometimes. more often than not recently. i can't believe that anyone is still reading this. i don't know why i wrote. i'll regret this as soon as i hit send. why can't i be happy being alone, and why isn't that okay with everyone else? not everyone is meant for someone. why do i try.......... ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Iangstl at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 18:38:19 1998 From: Iangstl at xxx.com (Iangstl at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 13:38:19 EST Subject: Sinister: To Happiness and HiFi Message-ID: <6998198c.3659ab9b@aol.com> Alexander the occasionally great wrote: >> But speaking of dancing to B&S, the piano part in Seeing Other People gives me a kind of Vince Giraldi Trio "Charlie Brown Theme" type vibe. Every time I hear it I'm forced to do a sort of shuffle like Schroeder does in the Peanuts Xmas special. << I too have used this description when trying to convert my unknowing and often unwilling friends. It makes me wanna dance on one foot then the next, alternating sides that I bop my head. The xmas special is the reason I have often thought this song extra wintry. carl wrote: >> if you haven't seen "happiness" yet, go see it! now! i mean it. i don't want to bastardize any of the movie, so i'll just say, "wow, it's quite a movie". << I completely agree!! I saw it last week and it has upped the ante for filmmaking. I havent been so moved to silence in a long time. I'm still digesting and processing most of it. I'm gonna try to see it again soon. Finally, on a consumer high last week, my vacuum tube amplifier and magnaplanar speakers were delivered on Friday. And although belle and sebastian sound great on my discman and everywhere else I have played them, I must admit they simply sparkle through my new system. So I am an audiogeek!! The tears that came upon my first listening to B&S came streaming again as I listened to Judy whilst sitting in my sweet spot. If you get a chance, go to a hifi shop and sample some B&S on some electroplanar speakers. When I was shopping around I used several songs for testing and a salesguy even wrote down the title and band name for himself. I know not everyone can appreciate or afford to get a similar system: mine came with several years of saving and a very teeny inheritance from my mom. But to hear every small breath Stuart takes is a simple thing that makes this not so young girl sigh. ciao for now, Dawn (Vintage68 Libra) np on her Adcom player thru her Conrad Johnson CAV50 and Magnaplanar 1.6's... the divine Sarah Vaughn +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tdzF94 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 23 19:19:22 1998 From: tdzF94 at xxx.edu (The Trainspotter) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:19:22 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Top of the Chops In-Reply-To: <365946D5.E8FCD1F3@jeepster.co.uk> Message-ID: actually this is usually true - but menswear appeared on TOTPs without even a recording contract. so hypothetically they just have to think you are the cat's pajamas. oh, and don't ask me how I know that. please. -t.e.r.i. http://hampshire.edu/~tdzF94/ - Inspired by the writings of the eighteeth century Venetian gambler, eroticist and spy. "The day didn't go too well. Too many chocolates and cigarettes, I kept thinking of you and almost walking into lampposts." Pulp "Follow me through a city of frost covered angels I swear I have nothing to prove I just want to dance in your tangles To give me some reason to move" NMH On Mon, 23 Nov 1998, Katrina House wrote: > > hello ... > > Niceaction at aol.com wrote: > > > Were B&S asked to do a bit on Top of the pops on the release of the last > > single ?? but due to other commitments couldnt do it. If this is the case, > > will they have a little time to go on there to do Modern Rock Song.? I can > > just imagin the croud going from watching the tamperer sing some god awful > > tune, to seeing B&S. !! > > To be considered for TOTP you basically have to debut in the Top 20 with > your midweek and not go outside the 30 ... so, B&S haven't really been > eligible up until now, and neither will they be with the "This Is Just A > Modern Rock Song" EP as it is four tracks. (for those of you who are > unfamiliar with the UK chart rules, a single may only be eligible for > the charts if it is 3 tracks and 20 minutes maximum). > > Belle & Sebastian have always said that if they get asked, they will > play TOTP ... hopefully we'll get a chance with the next EP (which, btw, > i have no idea what's on it, and indeed if/when it will be released). > > cheers, > Katrina. > -- > ************************************************************************ > jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk > 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk > phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 > http://www.jeepster.co.uk > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Mon Nov 23 19:50:56 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:50:56 -0500 Subject: Sinister: beautiful south References: <9810239118.AA911846601@mail.newtimes.com> Message-ID: <3659BCA0.85C5389F@itl.ca> Jim Schmidt wrote: > was wondering if anyone else on this list likes the beautiful south > (and the housemartins, of course)... > > i was listening to "choke" last night and a couple of the songs > reminded me of b&s musically, especially the bits with horns and > strings..."i think tonight i'd rather love myself" really hit me after > i listened to IYFS...maybe i was just way stoned...hmmm. > > am i alone? probably. > what else is new? I was wondering when someone would point this out. One of my first impressions of B&S was that they reminded me of the Housemartins - not that they especially sounded like them (though listen to Me & The Major and the Housemartins' Me & The Farmer... you cannot tell me Stu Murdoch does not own either Housemartin record!), but they share a similar approach and spirit. B&S are obviously more introspective and less political, but both have a knack for an indidiously catchy tune. The Beautiful South compares in their musical arrangements and usage of unconventional instruments, but have less of the energy that B&S and the Housemartins had. They're just gettin' old. All three bands have a terrific way with words, though. Excellent lyrics all around. So anyone who likes B&S and haven't heard the Housemartins should get "Now This Is What I Call Quite Good", their compilation (though they only had two records). Chances are you'll appreciate it. End sales pitch. -- Frank Yang Imperial Tobacco Ltd. "It takes two to lie. One to lie and one to listen." In my CD player: Spiritualized - Live At The Royal Albert Hall +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TWidmer at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 20:08:33 1998 From: TWidmer at xxx.com (Tara Widmer) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:08:33 -0800 Subject: Sinister: carry on regardless Message-ID: <81C1FB3F4D1ED111A51400805FC1DF0331A8F0@amerwksnt01.xil.com> Tjohn: <> This is very worrying... I have heard several examples of this sort of thing going on. Apparently it's not terribly uncommon practice. I read about a bagel shop where the male employees (as opposed to the females who could do so?) would take turns um, hmm how to delicately put it, wanking into a bucket of bagel mix. The resulting "special" bagels were then kept separate from the regular batch, and any time a rude customer came in, or anybody the bagel boys just plain didn't like the looks of, they would get served one of these as revenge. Reason number 1 why I am nice to food service employees... Jim "patiently awaiting his black sessions tape" Schmidt: <> Of course, I have used TBS as a description to people who ask me what B&S sound like. There are a lot of parallels... the bands both use this very sweet lovely music often coupled with caustic or sad lyrics, trade off between different male and female vocalists, seem to have a cross-generational appeal and erm...perform concerts blind drunk & fighting mad(?). The session version of "Seeing Other People" in particular strikes me as something the Beautiful South could/would do. But I've always been hesitant to bring up this comparison here, as I generally tend to be completely wrong about this sort of thing, which someone is surely going to point out... <> that was a really lovely e-mail.... you're certainly not alone...in fact i wouldn't be surprised if you were even in the majority... rainy days and mondays, *sigh* ta, taracita +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tjonrr at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 20:12:31 1998 From: Tjonrr at xxx.com (Tjonrr at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 15:12:31 EST Subject: Sinister: joke Message-ID: <22534753.3659c1af@aol.com> as the the long winter nights are fair drawing in and im stuck out here in the country with only the sheep for company, i thought you would appreciate a Christmas joke: Q: how can you tell an advent calender from Dundee? A: all the windows are boarded up. okay, so it was just an opportunity for another cheap shot at Dundee but hey, im a man of simple pleasures. hence the sheep. only joking. honest. from tjohn. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 21:36:43 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:36:43 EST Subject: Sinister: You dirty so-and-so ! Message-ID: <7bb07da3.3659d56b@aol.com> Hello Sinisterines! *MWAH!* to all 818 of you! Honey, is there a big prize for the 1,000th member to join Sinister? Or does the site just explode into a million little pieces of peanut brittle? I'm frightened... Someone hold me? Lex Popscene added: "i just joined too. but i have had nothing to say. i'm from canada." Although I know she didn't mean it that way, that really made me giggle. Most Canadians I know have lots to fabulous things to say! : ) Anyway, a warm welcome to Alexis and all the other recent victims. Several days ago, Denise offered: "Everyone knows the words orange, month, purple and silver can't be rhymed." Well, I just can't resist a good word challenge. So I've sent a little poem to Charlotte. Have you? I believe the deadline is tomorrow, and I can't wait to see what you've all come up with! Hee-hee... The Wee Yet Studly Mark Casaratto showed us this: "It's come out a bit bleached, as the flash is too powerful, but you can just about perceive the elation and anticipation hanging in the air, there, just to the left of Jonnykat, whose eyes are drooping as he stifles yet another cough, poor lamb." Ba-aaa-aaa-aah! I guess I was sicker than I remembered! Mark, could you be a dear and cut me out of that one? Or scribble a funny hat on me or something? It's a beautiful Polaroid, but I look like death warmed over. eeek! Oh, yeah... The Magnificent Michele Decreed: "The NY Sinisterines will come in a gypsy goat cart. Jonny will teach us the secrets of making mead. Holly will weave and sew bright costumes for all." Just a quick update on this one. I have begun making the mead in preparation for our little self-sufficient community. Basically, what I've done is put a bunch of roasted barley in an open vat in my basement, dumped in some pure water from a mountain stream, a dozen green apples picked from the orchard of a very friendly giant, and two liters of exotic honey supplied by Mx. Honey herself. (Something about honey made of wildflowers from Uranus, I'm not really sure...) It should be fermented and ready in about two weeks. On Friday, November 20th, The Most Humble Cynthia Said: "I wrote a poem, but glanced at it this morning and found it unfinished. Smut level: 2. maybe three. I invite you all to finish it for me." This poem was absolutely gorgeous, and sure looked finished to me! If you missed this one, check the archives now! Good show, Cynthia. Kin Woo, who apparently travels light, expressed: "I must confess Squarepusher is like the techno equivalent of Throwing Muses. You know they're excellent but that doesn't make listening to them any less hard- bit like maths really." Agreed. Squarepusher is a wonder to me. It is indeed a bit like maths... in the J. S. Bach sense of the word. I wish I could play bass at 200 BPM or whatever he does! Anyway, I think I'm disjointed today. I should stop this. God Bless, Jonny (thanks for voting for me you singular mystery of a crush) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Mon Nov 23 21:53:11 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:53:11 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the cat's been shut under the sink all day Message-ID: <01ad01be172b$c00f18c0$1e3ea8c2@n2f9x2> i almost saw dundee. i applied to the university, and would have gone, if cardiff hadn't been nice to me a red sky this morning - WARNING WARNING. only all that happened was it was cold. my bus ride home took almost the entire length of tigermilk today. i was very disheartened to realise that, at the beginning of electronic renaissance, i was still at the wrong end of the city. usually, i'll have got to around tesco's on't cowley road by this point, but no, still at the wrong end, up by the police station. by the time i reached the city centre, i don't love anyone was starting. traffic triffic. not a whole lot to say really alix.c "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Mon Nov 23 21:41:48 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:41:48 -0500 Subject: Sinister: they say that i am, but i really hope i'm not, the bastard son of dean friiiedman In-Reply-To: <000601be15ae$adb89300$584d989e@elsato97> References: <000601be15ae$adb89300$584d989e@elsato97> Message-ID: <199811231641480640.011403B7@204.96.36.40> 1/22/98, at 12:25 AM, Sarah wrote: >Hello! > >Yeah yeah, bonkers man!!! A Punk Rock Godess who likes Belle and >Sebastian.... keerazeeeee! There I was thinking B&S fans could only like The >Field Mice and Duran Duran, but blimey my horizons have expanded!! Sorry! >But, you know...what are you on about when you talk about 'punk' - shitty >KERRANG! punk or, like...77 era punk? Shit, Belle and Sebastian fans >INTRODUCED me to say, Buzzcocks, Big Flame etc - I just find it daft to >think that people can't like two different types of music, or three, or nine >or whatever! I'm very much into old Brit-punk. My favorite of all time is Crass. I love anything like them too, Conflict, Stratford Mercenaries. I like the American stuff too: Dead Kennedys, the Pist, G.G. Allin, I do like the Queers, I like Rancid too, but I don't call that punk, I usualy call it pop-punk like the Queers, but the Queers are a thousand times better, just because of their black humor; I don't really like the Ramones though. I like local punk bands the most, Nobody's Hero's, Social Virus, the Freeze. The list could go on and on. > > So, you're probably all thinking, >> "Then why are you on this list," or "How do you like Belle and >> Sebastian." > >No, me at least is thinking, why does this need stating? YOu said people >would complain about what you said...what, people would complain about the >fact that you like differnent types of music? If they did then they just >stink of pedal pushers. I would complain if by 'punk' you meant RANCID or >Insane 'very very silly boyz' Clown Posse, but merely cos they are very very >pisspoor indeed and I would like to take away ICP's 'faygo' and watch them >weep like big ol' smellheads!!! > People are like that. They don't like people who are different from them. That's why there is so much racism and other forms of hatred in this world. ICP is considered punk? That's scary. >Anyway, I think B&S are one of the most punk rock groups around so there. Definately. >More punk than fecking Goop Dogrill....what is their name? Groop >Dogsmell?!?! HO HO HO wasn't that funny, ok....no.....i shall go....a far >distance from here.... > >No offence intended to you Carmen but it's that idea of >youcanonlylikeONEtypeofmusic that really bugs me. That doesn't sit well with me either because I never have. I listen to a lot of Classical and Jazz. Punk is basically my lifesytle. >Can you projectile vomit >long distances? That would win my admiration I am sure. Do you have a big >huge mohican like the punks who tried to 'pull' with me and my friend the >other day by stating 'hey girls we're lesbians do you want it?' and waving >cans of special brew at us.... I used to have a big red mohawk. I kinda look normal now only because I'm over how much effort it takes to maintain that 'look' > >Me, I do not want to be a punk or a hippy. I want to be, a tomato.... >(OK, so UK list dudes have to remember that advert for....oh whatever, the >one with the dude going 'i want to be, a treee!' and the old lady goes 'i >want to be in congolmerates', ALliance and Lester was it?? Some bank type >thing...or the Co-op...) > It's not that I really want to be a punk, it's just seems that if I had to be put in a category, I'd probably be put there. >I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! >Fluffy Candarel > > > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Mon Nov 23 23:18:01 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 18:18:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: To: "'Sinister'" Message-ID: <199811231818_MC2-6146-B801@compuserve.com> [ The following text is in the "ISO-8859-1" character set. ] [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set. Some ] [ characters may be displayed incorrectly. ] Hi All Sister Disco wrote Boz Scaggs! Thank you David Moore for the brief introduction to the world of Boz Scaggs. I shall keep a weather eye open for the album you mentioned, as I have long harboured a mild curiosity as to what Duane Allman sounds like. If you want to hear Duane either get Derek & The Dominos' Layla, as he plays all the good guitar bits, or better still, as Layla has crap vocals, get 1971's The Allman Brothers: At Fillmore East (1992 CD issue "The Fillmore Concerts" is all-inclusive) where Duane pees over all other slide players fron a cosmic height (sorry Stevie). His constant invention, passion and variety of tone just boggle. Rhythm section kicks ass mightily also. Whilst in this totally BS free ( :) ) mode, the college bookshop is advertising a new biography of Keith Moon, and a picture of Keith's mum recently appeared in a local scurrilous rag for some reason. Baba O'Reilly Chelmsford, UK +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 02:00:04 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:00:04 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We're trash, me and you... Message-ID: After the success of my 'what is/was a causal?' post, I've now decided to turn my attentions to Jessica's question of whether trailer trash exists in the UK... Well, indeed there are a great deal of mobile-home parks dotted around Britain, though the people within seem like OK sorts (ie, not gum chewing, cop murdering, bail-bond dodgin' Juliette Lewis types). The true breeding ground for Brit white (and indeed black) trash is in the old council estates. These were built up after the war as cheap, municipal housing, often with very lofty, 60s design ideals which made them horrible to actually live in. These days, the local councils appear to have washed their hands of estates like this, and left them to be run by housing associations - non-profit making bodies who get the rent back in subsidies from the government, and hence don't give a monkey's whether the people living in their properties can actually pay rent or not. With unemployment still rife, some of the punters on these estates live a very hand-to-mouth exisistence with a lot of honest thievery, dealing and prostitution among the older generation, and crime just for kicks among the youngsters. With local councils concentrating more on developing retail parks, the churches being driven out and the police understandably at a distance, these areas (and every town in the UK, north and south, has one) have fallen into appalling neglect. Anyone who wants an indication of how grim underclass life in the UK really is might want to read Nick Davies' excellent book,'Dark Heart'. US trailer trash has always made for good cinema for us voyeuristic Brits but it's depressing that their British counterparts are now being similarly exploited for so-called 'feelgood' movies like 'Brassed Off' and 'The Full Monty'. Though there is warmth and humanity among the people of Britain's estates and many good stories to be told, glamorising and fetishising such adversity (and Suede are culpable here, 'The Beautiful Ones', indeed) is pretty distasteful. The relentless neglect of these areas of the UK is nothing short of shameful. And they don't take kindly to shoegazers either, in case you were wondering. love, Martin Horsfield, northern scum +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 03:06:52 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:06:52 EST Subject: Sinister: here's some B&S content for ya Message-ID: <12637b77.365a22cc@aol.com> Hello everybody, Well since the new thing to do these days is to offer B&S interpretations, I've decided to add my own bit to the Fox in the Snow, though it may be a bit wacky. Firstly, when the girl lets out a "crazy laugh", I figure she's covering up the fact that she's sad and lonely, and no one understands her. You know when you're on the verge of crying and you try to cover it up by laughing but it comes out all crackly and strange? I imagine that is the crazy laugh. They might make fun of her when she talks about how lonely and sad she is, which prompts her to want to be alone, because being with other people gets her nowhere, and she disappears.. into her house I suppose. Then she starts getting really lonely, and she misses being with people. But she keeps telling herself, when these thoughts come to mind, that -- no, she'd rather be alone with her books and her fantasies. What do they know anyway? She's happier when she's reading books. They are the only ones that understand her. Well I've possibly just created a whole new song. I'm trying too hard I guess. OOOh, I've just read the Scarlet Letter for school and I realized there is a strange likeness to it in The Boy Done Wrong Again. Really. I don't know what other people's interpretations are for this one, but it's very similar. The boy that did wrong was Arthur Dimmesdale, and now he's so shamed that he hangs his head down and holds his hand over his heart. All he wants now is for someone to share his sorrow and to empathize, and that person is Hester. And when they go to the woodland spring, their dark lives suddenly turn bright. And since they cannot live together in Boston, which is like a sinking ship to both of them, they look to England, where they will sail back to be happy again! Ahh, you all think I'm nuts. Yeahhhh, that's exactly what Stuart was thinking when he wrote that song.. Actually, I only realized it because I had an English project where I could play a song that related to the Scarlet Letter and I was trying to think of B&S songs that related.. Isn't it strange that I feel nervous talking in front of 30 people and here I am gushing like a moron in front of 819. Eek, I'll be going now. Bye bye, Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 03:36:01 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 22:36:01 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tongue kissing Message-ID: <002201be175e$2cdd0700$0c1e05d1@tinystar> okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little groping. i'm not sure how he's reacting, we worked together well for the rest of the day, he wasn't weird or anything but now the ball is in his metaphorical court, so i'll have to wait and see. but yeah, i asked him to help me bring out a rack of cargo pants, and we went in the stockroom and we were just chatting and i guess i was just standing there, and he said "okay" and went to grab the rack, and i walked over and closed the door and put my back to it and then went for him, straight towards him and put my tongue in his mouth, and after about 5 seconds he laughed and said "you know, you'll end up making me cheat on my girlfriend" and i laughed too and told him that kissing isn't really cheating (my friend matthew gets credit for that line) and he said "oh really" and i said yeah, and kissed him some more, and he said "we really shouldn't be doing this" and i asked him why not, and he said "we're at work" and i said that i knew that, and just laughed again and then we took the pants out and snuck many naughty looks over the rest of the day. this was saturday, and i was curious to see what might transpire today, but silly ahren went to a club last night and got into a fight and now has stitches and a concussion, and so wasn't at work. poo. i'm wondering if phoning to see if he's okay would be too much, if i should just let this settle for a few days and see him when i see him. i think that's what i'm going to do, i may phone him towards the end of the week if i don't see him before that. so i'm a little curious about what will happen now, my friend michelle says that i should let him know that i'm not after a relationship or anything. maybe i will. but not right away. i just wanted to share with you all the ongoing ahren saga. and i feel that i need to remind list crushes everywhere (you know who you are :)) that my kissing ahren doesn't even come close to the tingly feeling i get when i see your email in my mailbox . but really, it's been a while since my computer has slipped me the tongue. okay, enough of this naughty talk and melodrama. let's all get back to work. i've got some twee socks to post. love and xxx, jessicaxo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: <29d653e0.365a3713@aol.com> you know--- perfect, like any given romantic comedy from the 80's.... sixteen candles or say anything for example-- you know the feeling you get at the end of one of these movies and what about the Goonies--it would be awesome to go on a crazy treasure hunt, searching your way through caves, sliding down a million stories of water slides, finding a pirate ship, experiencing loads of adventure, only to end up with loads of $$$$$ in treasure. gosh i love that movie but anyways back to 16 candles and say anything--to add to the list, ferris bueller's day off, breakfast club, and princess bride among others-- flying kites, making art, and going to shows spending all the time in the world with your friends and/or significant others-- finding that special person and over-all feeling good about life- all we do is work, and when we are not working, we are going to school, and we spend all the money we earn on these classes to graduate to work some more for the rest of our lives day in/day out--working for that two weeks paid vacation--an allotted amount of time to enjoy the year's hard work---i don't think so-- life is run by petty things and petty conflicts if people stopped to think about what life is, and looked at the big picture- maybe they would stop spending so much time, money, and feelings on these trivial situations, and make the best of them enjoy life a little "I'd much rather sit around the library and read books all day, and come home and write all night, and go for long bike rides, and fall down on my skateboard, and write songs and all the other really important stuff. Fuck money and school and work, the kids need to have fun. Don't forget most importantly, not to take any shit. Kick ass, Gretchen. " --dan shook more to come -later -gretchen--tampa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From judelhof at xxx.edu Tue Nov 24 04:47:22 1998 From: judelhof at xxx.edu (Justin Udelhofen) Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 23:47:22 -0500 Subject: Sinister: unsubscribe sinister Message-ID: <001301be1765$867c9580$dc51f78c@student.harvard.edu> unsubscribe sinister judelhof at fas.harvard.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 08:03:22 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 03:03:22 EST Subject: Sinister: She and me Message-ID: Right, I realize that it's very difficult to use "she and me" in a sentence properly, but I basically reported whta Amelia Fletcher asked after Heavenly did "She and Me" - she told us it's a fun challenge to think of using "she and me" in a sentence. I just want to know if anyone can do this, as it's now FOUR YEARS since she asked this question and I still don't know how to do this. I really would appreciate any help on this. Hell i'll even copy the Heavenly show where she asked this question, it's a good show 'cause they do "it's you" which, as most Heavenly fans are aware, was not played much by Heavenly since 1991. Incidentally I just thought of this: "Stuart Murdoch gives both of us (she and me) severe heart palpitations" - WOAH is this it... hrm. well, does this work? Also did anyone see the Select issue with the B&S article - i had no idea they used pics of their friends and stuffed animals/toys for press pics, i think that's so clever. i like that idea, 'cause i often take pictures of my friends wtih my toys or stuffed animals when they visit, although it kinda pisses some of them off, so as a result not that many of my friends visit me anymore, instead they make me visit them. Um, I'm digressing. xox mike In a message dated 11/18/98 03:08:28 AM, iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk wrote: << Someone was asking why yu couldn't use 'she and me' in a sentence. I think it's because the two words are different declensions (is that the word?). So you can say 'she and I' (as in 'she and I are both wearing cardigans') or 'her and me' (as in 'Stuart Murdoch gives both her and me palpitations'). Errr... dull post this, isn't it.>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 08:18:42 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 03:18:42 EST Subject: Sinister: carry on regardless Message-ID: <20ea5794.365a6be2@aol.com> In a message dated 11/23/98 12:15:18 PM, TWidmer at xil.com wrote: <<<> that was a really lovely e-mail.... you're certainly not alone...in fact i wouldn't be surprised if you were even in the majority...>> sigh - now that's made me think of Field Mice's song "i can see myself alone forever" or some title to that effect - i can't even remember which EP/LP that's from, i just remember lisetning to that song on their lsat demo tape or something, and thinknig how gorgeously aching that song is (it's from '90 or so, i think). i know that a lot of people like Trembling Blue Stars or Northern Picture Library, but I dunno, i still like Field Mice the best. sigh. xox mike np - Blue System - Obsession album +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 09:39:36 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 04:39:36 EST Subject: Sinister: CD player Message-ID: <2f97069a.365a7ed8@aol.com> In a message dated 11/21/98 08:58:36 AM, C.Wyplosz at lse.ac.uk wrote: <> hey, so what else is everyone listening to? right now i'm listening to Can - some bootleg CD called "Radio Waves" that i found for $8.95 in new orleans before that i was listening to Barbra Streisand - Greatest Hits Volume 2 (always my favorite Barbra album, ever since i first heard it in 1979) and before that was Blue system, their awful Obsession CD (mind you, almost everything Blue System/Bohlen do is just retched) xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 09:33:32 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 04:33:32 EST Subject: Sinister: You can pin beanie baby heads to the walls of office cubicles Message-ID: <3ec5f61a.365a7d6c@aol.com> In a message dated 11/20/98 08:52:15 PM, csomeone at hotmail.com wrote: <> No! If they come to SF, let it be at Bottom of the Hill! much more preferred... even if the stage would be a bit tight for 8 people :-) xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 09:30:51 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 04:30:51 EST Subject: Sinister: Introductions all around (mr dean) Message-ID: <3cd8621b.365a7ccb@aol.com> In a message dated 11/20/98 03:53:51 PM, tdzF94 at hamp.hampshire.edu wrote: <<> PS. Thanks to Andrew Dean for taping what he did many many months ago, > I should've sent on an appropriate thank you note ages ago.>> ack is Andrew Dean on this list??? i have to do something, he copied me an Even As We Speak gig (actually 2) but i never sent him anything back, what's his email as i've been feeling guilty about it ever since... does he like Orlando, i do have a tape of their last show ever (ie, with Dickons, before Dickons left)/etc... hrm. mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 10:45:23 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:45:23 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Student life and eighties movies Message-ID: Someone wrote yesterday about why life is not as perfect as movies, especially as romantic comedies in the eighties. These films taking place in American Universities have ruined my life, you know. When I was eleven or so , my friends and me used to spend weekends watching some of those in the video and commenting later how cute Andrew McCarthy was ('Pretty in Pink ', for instance)or how swoony Rob Lowe was ('St Elmo's fire') When I first arrived at Uni, I had an inconscious and subtle feeling that my life would become like theirs but I never found any ALPHA DELTA EPSILON sororities , never some popular but sensitive guy who finally discovered me as his perfect 'significant other' apart from being his best mate and sharing his love for music and basket...I never was very fond of basket,indeed. And after one year at the Science Faculty I realised it was not going to happen.Was it because of grunge, was it because we were not in New England but in Madrid,was it because of not being 'ginger'? Someone sensible told me the truth : that student life only exists in Hollywood screenplayers sick minds. ANyhow, isnt Scream a sort of hilarious revival of eighties horror movies? Why cannot we have a revival , though a hilarious one, of universitary romantic comedies ??? And Belle and Sebastian would be a perfect soundtrack for the day the guy realises he has been such a git dating that curvy and brainless peroxide blonde and rushes in a bike , has a crash and finally confesses his love to the red /brown haired, shy and bitten nailed girlie in hospital. He would be a leftie, of course, and there would be some scene of both of them playing with a fox in the snow. I am just going to run to get the copyright ! XXXXX Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 10:49:39 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 02:49:39 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: LONDON MEET - nov 29th / chez lady p Message-ID: <19981124104939.6808.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> dawhlings! jessica wrote: "okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren..." didn't that just make you want to go "YEAH!!!"? oh the tiny yet hugely significant triumphs of fellow listees!!! brings a warm glow to my hot chocolate tummy and hungover pounding noggin. NOW....mark casarotto has been puttin' the heavies on the london listees for a possible venue for the next meet up. well if you are all prepared to trek south to glamorous brixton on november 29th we can have an advent sunday meet up at chez lady penelope. shall we say after 2pm until 11pm (it is a school night afterall)? details are: 77 holmewood gardens, brixton hill, london sw2 3nb. m: 0370 597202 t: 0181 671 3989 (sunday only - i'm never in) chez lady p is located at the top of brixton hill. from brixton tube take any bus (45, 133, 159, 109) from the furthest two bus stops to the left of the exit (beside pizza hut and barclays bank). get off the bus at the first stop in zone 3 (or the last stop before the south circular road junction) and take the first left (holmewood road). keep going straight and this leads to the gardens...no.77 is in the right hand corner beside the swings...we have an appropriately green door. gifts of gold frankensense or mhyrr are not necessary but if you could please bring some drinks and nibblies - that would be sooooper. (linda, we have a cement garden so croquet will be a tad impossible....however we have swings and things at the graden in the front). has anyone got a twister set they could bring? (half serious). i plan to serve mulled wine to provide relief from the harshness of these artic conditions we poor london glamour pusses must suffer. if anyone has a sneaky advance pre-release copy of the new ep please can you bring it along coz i am *dying* to hear it and my workstation won't allow me download the liquid audio player (bah!)...ditto any video action. please rsvp me privately so i can get an idea of numbers... so i hope to see you all soon. guitars and voices at the ready...i also think we should hold a vote on who indeed has "arms of sex". i am curious to see what an arm of sex looks like. *mwah* dawhling *mwah* / ~mosh~ dawhling ~mosh~ lady penelope, gateau du wizz _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 11:06:40 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 03:06:40 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: TRENT Message-ID: <19981124110640.8535.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com> did anyone catch DARIA on sunday on channel 5? two *trent* appearances!! actually i think i now know what arms of sex look like. why can't trent be real? no fair! lady penelope, gateau du wizz _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Tue Nov 24 11:13:41 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:13:41 +0100 Subject: Sinister: types of music Message-ID: <4DA57E05038@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> sorry really sorry I believe I just sent a blank mail to the list ...the keyboard here in the library is really tiny I must have hit the wrong button ... I also appologize for any spelling-mistake as I might not get to check ... >I just find it daft to think that people can't like two different >types of music, or three, or nine or whatever! Yes I definitely agree. Personally I am the most narrowminded person you can imagine though .... I only like music with a nice/anthemic/mellow melody ... with not too much beat to it .... glam but not too rocky .... music that is not throwaway hitradio stuff ... .... has great lyrics ... I must like the band or rather the people in the band ... I mean the bands I like ARE diverse ... in some ways ... but they allfit the above description I am not into any harder stuff especially techno freaks me out ... *sorry* still I do envy and respect people with a broader horizon but I am not like that ... love vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 11:15:51 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:15:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: We're trash, me and you... References: Message-ID: <365A9567.E1E10B64@jeepster.co.uk> Martin Horsfield wrote: > > After the success of my 'what is/was a causal?' post, I've now decided > to turn my attentions to Jessica's question of whether trailer trash > exists in the UK... > > > > The true breeding ground for Brit white (and indeed black) trash is in > the old council estates. These were built up after the war as cheap, > municipal housing, often with very lofty, 60s design ideals which made > them horrible to actually live in. > > > > And they don't take kindly to shoegazers either, in case you were > wondering. i feel i'm being stereo-typed here! i live in one of those council estates, 19 floors up in fact with a place in the skies. and what's worse, i got called a 'module' in the previous message!! i mean, even throughout my brushings with menswe at r i wasn't called a 'module'. i bet this was some fictional thing the press thought up. my thoughts on the matter? if you haven't lived through it, then don't take the press word on it. to bring this into perspective... what's going to be said about us and b&s in five years? what will they name us? the cardie-wearing-biscuit-nibbling bedroom phenomenon of the mid/late-nineties? and what gives them the right to say anything about us when they were probably not here, at this moment and living this the way we are? just a thought, you know. don't shoot the messenger and all that :) david PS: and katrina was a shoegazer you know, and i took to her warmly. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From l.r.beattie at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 11:59:26 1998 From: l.r.beattie at xxx.uk (Lennox Beattie) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:59:26 GMT Subject: Sinister: i haven't seen dundee - yet In-Reply-To: <199811231802.SAA25507@sioux.netdirect.net.uk> Message-ID: <69538021883@dundee-as.dundee.ac.uk> AS a uni student here in Sunny Dundee i have to admit it could possibly be termed a shitehole. The two most entertaining things about though are the facts that the Evening Telegraph had last year the headline "Dundee Bastard Capital of Europe " and also that when you watch any James Bond film theRussian city you see if there is one is Dundee as it was the only town in Britain that was depressing looking enough. a wee joke as well What do you call a Dundonian in a suit? The accused Better than Glasgow though, but as for burgeoning local music scene i don't think so +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 12:13:36 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 04:13:36 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Lets all slag off Dundee Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630471726@EDINBURGH> > Lennox Beattie wrote: >What do you call a Dundonian in a suit? >The accused Here's another... What do you call a Dundonian in a white shell-suit? The bride. Cheers, Nhoj. In my CD-Player: Red Hot & Rhapsody (Aids benifit album of Gershwin covers). On my deck: Massive Attack (Hey, only 8 days til Glasgow concert) In my minidisc: The Field Mice, "Where Did You Learn To Kiss That Way?" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gleng at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 12:39:58 1998 From: gleng at xxx.com (gordon glen) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:39:58 +0800 Subject: Sinister: B&S on the World service Message-ID: <365AA91E.323F53C3@hkstar.com> Our pals are getting around the world. I was not at home the other night but my wife was listening to a progremme called 'Anything Goes' which is a music prog where you can request any poece of music, hence the name, and a someone in Chile requested TBWTAS, which was duly played. Is the person on the list? Gordon p.s. whoever posted about Sparklehorse the other day is quite right, they are excellent the new one, 'good morning spider ', is even better than the 'vivedixetcetc'. -- ---------------------------------------------------- Reach me by ICQ. My ICQ# is 12652180 or, * Page me online through my Personal Communication Center: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/12652180 (go there and try it!) or, * Send me E-mail Express directly to my computer screen 12652180 at pager.mirabilis.com For downloading ICQ at http://www.icq.com/ For adding similar signatures to your e-mail go to: http://www.icq.com/emailsig.html ---------------------------------------------------- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 13:01:33 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:01:33 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Duffel solidarity Message-ID: I have a duffel coat, which i love, but I seem to get no end of abuse for wearing it. Insults usually take the highly original form of "OI, duffel!". I just run away - once they get you by the toggles there's no escape. The chief culprits are puffa jacket wearers, the types who hang around the bus stops with their "White Storm" cider cos they're too young to get in the pubs. Maybe the duffel is the puffa's natural enemy. In a natural history documentary about the life of coats, I imagine the puffa would be like some sort of rabid dingo and your duffel would be a graceful gazelle. Sorry, I'm getting a bit carried away with this. So, on to matters musical... David Moore wrote about his dilemma over what to put on a B&S compilation: "what has to go? First thoughts are E. Renaissance/Dylan In the Movies/IYFS/Century of Broccoli, but then I'm stuck." Actually, the songs above are the ones that I'd definitely keep. Now I know this is all just a matter of opinion and i don't want to start any this-song's-better-than-that arguments, but if you want to reflect B&S's diversity, E. Renaissance, Century of Elvis and IYFS are esssential, as is Le Pastie. And personally, I think Electronic Renaissance is wonderful. In reply to whoever wrote about the Divine Comedy a few days ago, I agree that the Short Album About Love is one of their best, but I'd say that and Promenade are my favourites. Maybe this is something to do with the hopeless romantic in me. I don't really rate Fin De Seicle much apart from Eric The Gardener which is fantastic and sounds like a clockwork roundabout. As David Kitchen stuck up for council estates, I'd like to do the same for trailer parks. I know someone from California, my only true friend from America, called Dave. I met him at university last year and we used to call him, rather unoriginally, American Dave. Well, American Dave is a little difficult to explain, but to sum him up I'd say he is the funniest person I've ever met, he completely changed my opinion of Americans, and he lives on a trailer park. Maybe Dave is an exception, but just as council estates aren't the sole reserve of the casuals, all people who live in trailer parks aren't trash. It's all to do with circumstance I suppose, you live where you have to, even if it's the planet of the apes, or Birmingham. I blame Maggie Thatcher. Are David and Katrina going out with each other? Or am I just being stupid? Stay groovy, kids Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From snorman at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 13:08:06 1998 From: snorman at xxx.uk (Sam Norman) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:08:06 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: dublin meetup Message-ID: Ok i've had a couple of responses to the tale of my forthcoming trip to dublin. i thought maybe we could organise a proper meetup. thursday 3rd seems to be the favoured date. so if anyone could suggest a place and time, as i don't know the city we could then post this on davids lovely message board for all to see. please reply to me and not to the list as any details will be on the notice board eventually. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From samiamx at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 13:35:43 1998 From: samiamx at xxx.com (Sam Devere) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 05:35:43 PST Subject: Sinister: Model 1 and Irish Bands Message-ID: <19981124133544.29709.qmail@hotmail.com> My inebriated friends and I were walking down a crowded street in Georgetown (DC) on Sunday night, contemplating whether to go see the Afghan Whigs or Men At Work (yes, THAT MAW), when this girl comes flying out of Starbucks and stops me and asks me if she can talk with me. After a few minutes, she reveals that she works for Model1 and they are looking for people. Meanwhile my friends, thoroughly disgusted and bemused that she picked me, are prancing around like cads. Anyway, I signed up for an interview, but forgot to ask her what happens at this thing? Has anyone interviewed with them, and if so could you please send me a personal reply. This is a perfect segue (sp?) into the next topic. 'Fashion Crisis Hits New York' is a funny little tune by a previously mentioned Frank and Walters. A couple of other tiny Irish bands of interest are A House and the Catchers. The former is somewhat political, very sarcastic/witty with in-your-face guitars and lyrics. The latter is more reminiscient of B&S, though some people may disagree. The Catchers are a somewhat jangly, mellow guitar outfit whose lyrics are abstract and melancholic. Sam ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 14:54:27 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:54:27 -0000 Subject: Sinister: P. Parrot would like to apologise for her clumsiness Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2234A198@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Well, in my ignorance, you're going to get the beginning of a poem which is extremely long, and if you like it it's very easy to track down. In England you can get it in the wee Penguin 60p books, which is where I am transcribing from after my ex very kindly enlightened me a couple of Xmases ago. Apologies to Archel, whose own poetry came a very close second, and Jennifer P-B, who requested something in my madrelingua, but I thought it would be a bit unfair. Anyway, here we go: "Song of Myself" I celebrate myself, And what I assume you shall assume, For every atom belonging to me as good as belongs to you. I loafe and invite my soul, I lean and loafe at my ease....observing a spear of summer grass. Houses and rooms are full of perfumes....the shelves are crowded with perfumes, I breathe the fragrance myself, and know it and like it, The distillation would intoxicate me also, but I shall not let it. The atmosphere is not a perfume....it has no taste of the distillation....it is odorless, It is for my mouth forever....I am in love with it, I will go to the bank by the wood and become undisguised and naked, I am mad for it to be in contact with me. The smoke of my own breath, Echoes, ripples, and buzzed whispers....loveroot, silkthread, crotch and vine, My respiration and inspiration....the beating of my heart....the passing of blood and air through my lungs, The sniff of green leaves and dry leaves, and of the shore and darkcolored sea-rocks, and of hay in the barn, The sound of the belched words of my voice....words loosed to the eddies of the wind, A few light kisses...a few embraces....a reaching around of arms, The play of shine and shade on the trees as the supple boughs wag, The delight alone or in the rush of the streets, or along the fields and hillsides, The feeling of health....the full-noon trill....the song of me rising from bed and meeting the sun. Have you reckoned a thousand acres much? Have you reckoned the earth much? Have you practiced so long to learn to read? Have you felt so proud to get the meaning of poems? Stop this day and night with me and you shall possess the origin of all poems, You shall possess the good of the earth and sun....there are millions of suns left, You shall no longer take things at second or third hand....nor look through the eyes of the dead....nor feed on the spectres in books, You shall not look through my eyes either, nor take things from me, You shall listen to all sides and filter them from yourself. So there you go. Nice, I think. It certainly makes me reflect. Anyway, other matters - for those who have read all the way down here, I urge you to go along to Padraic/Lady P's do on Sunday, as it should be dead smart, la'. As will trousers' Xmas extravaganza on the 18th. See you there? Mark xxxxx p.s. I would like, ooh, a cardigan for Christmas, thank you for asking. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 15:15:16 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:15:16 +0000 Subject: Sinister: "Liverpool and ______" Message-ID: <199811241509.PAA27418@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Ah, sinisterines... again you are graced by my presence. First of all Vanessa said...: > I am not into any harder stuff especially techno freaks me out ... > *sorry* Ah, fair enough... You'll all be surprised (?) to hear that I went to a jungle club last monday. Don't think I will again though, not that it was bad but we've discovered a place that sells whisky & coke for 50p and plays mogwai, DOTR and, yes, B&S - yesterday 'A Summer Wasting' and 'Le Pastie...' I could go tonight as drinks are 30p (!) from 9 till 10 but I'm so tired and I've got a screening 9am tomorrow. Various people were talking about their life dissapointingly not being like a film... Well my life is a film of it's own and I quite like it but it had better go somewhere soon or I'll start to get bored. I don't know about living in an eighties american film though (we all saw 'cocktail' after the film last night. Hmmmmn). I'd rather live in 'The Beiderbecke Affair' - that would be SO good. Irish bands! No-one's mentioned the Whipping Boy or Tunic yet (although Tunic are N.Ireland so that's cheating...). Robert Fisk? Don't believe this man - it's nothing particularly intersting apart from a nice picture of lovely lauren. Sad that the underwear trea didn't happen but hey, if you want you could send it all to the Jeepster mail order address and David could redistribute it with your 'Study at Stow' t-shirts. Just a thought. Anna J said > Hi people, > I thought I'd let you all know about this pretty great, but slightly > peculiar B&S concert I went to last night as I was profoundly asleep in my > freshly laundered sheets. > They were playing in this old gym hall in a school not far away from here, > and the room itself was pretty interesting, it was round and had lots of > lockers in the middle so the audience had to stand around them. The place > was packed, but most people didn't seem to know who B&S were. Anyway they > got up on stage, and Stuart Murdoch (who, by the way, had grown his hair > long and dyed it darker) announced that only half of the show would be B&S > songs and for the rest of the evening they would be doing Massive Attack > covers. Interesting choice I must say. Also they had this extra singer with > them just for the occasion, who looked sort of like Jarvis Cocker 200 cream > cakes later, who actually never got to sing and seemed quite grumpy about > it. Then they started and even the B&S songs (they started out with "Le > Pastie...") sounded like strange copies of Massive Attack. Imagine that > please. After five or so songs they all went off stage for half-time as > they called it and most of the audience left. Pretty soon, only a few > people were left and I discovered that Sarah Martin wasn't on stage and I > got all worried and someone else was missing too (I can't remember if it > was Mick Cooke or Stevie Jackson), but this old man standing next to me > told me it was ok because they were on holiday in Trinidad & Tobago and > that there was a rumour that they were smuggling Scottish toys into the > country. Then after the show Isobel jumped off stage and ran around hugging > all the people who were still there, because she was so happy that we'd > stayed till the end. Now, who wouldn't if B&S were doing Massive > Attack-covers??? Also there's something you should all know about Isobel, > after a while she took her plastic mask off and it turns out she's actually > 70 years old. Pretty clever mask if you ask me. > Dreams really are terribly enlightening. Now I wonder if B&S are popular in > Trinidad & Tobago? This isn't fair! Why don't I have dreams that good? Humph. And finally, Paul Laird said: 'I told my girlfriend to kiss me where it smells, - so she took me to Dundee!' Which I'm sure was about Widnes last time I heard it. Hey! tenuous B&S link! Cool! WeeJay James at twopounds.u-net.com Manipulating you illicitly since 1979 http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tragedienne at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 15:19:15 1998 From: tragedienne at xxx.com (Dramatis Personae) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:19:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: tongue kissing Message-ID: <19981124151915.20408.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> Jessica wrote: "okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little groping." Normally, I would say "You go girl!!", but Ahren's got a girlfriend, so this makes the two of you partners in mischief. If Ahren were my man, oh the two of you would get a swift ass-whooping! Aren't there plenty of single men to seduce? God, some women just have no respect for other women's property! _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 15:55:25 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 07:55:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: jessica & ahren - oh! the drama of it all.... Message-ID: <19981124155525.15428.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> oh for crying out loud!!! Jessica wrote: "okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little groping." Dramatis Personae wrote: "If Ahren were my man, oh the two of you would get a swift ass-whooping!" bah! there's no harm in a shift! jessica, your success with ahren is to be admired! puritans may claim that you are unfairly "parking your chicken beside a fox" (or some such) but we know, and have felt, your ache when you lerved ahren from afar, when he went out and got himself a girliefriend and when he dumped her how your heart missed a beat! how terrible it was of him to go back to her because he was "missing the sex"....dawhling, i've been there....my virgil/penelope/X love triangle is one complicated nightmare from which i am trying to awake (i know the hangover will be a mutha!). but now it's no more mister jessica nice guy! tinystar love implosion! aah, it still gives me a warm fuzzy glow thinking about how you went, saw and conquered like so many historic figures before your time. a modern day helen of troy (is that a clothes horse you pinned him aginst in the stockroom? beware...) now, if you want the girlfriend wiped out i can organise it but it'll cost ya. lady penelope, gateau du wizz. _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lonelyhighway at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 16:00:28 1998 From: lonelyhighway at xxx.com (Corpora Arenacea) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:00:28 PST Subject: Sinister: we got beat up just for holding hands Message-ID: <19981124160029.8578.qmail@hotmail.com> I love pop-punk. >Why is there a social stigma attatched to paying with things in change? Because that's what the homeless people do when they've accumulated enough change to buy something. I know, I've been.... well, actually, I just played bagpipes on the street for six or seven minutes and accrued enough wampum for a bucket of the Colonel's extra-spicy chicken but they told me to "get the fuck out of here, go bug someone else, bum". >(peaches music and video) What a great idea for a store! Sort of like those 'bar/laundromat' or 'fish-n-chips' places..... how about the 'punk/hippy internet cafe/gas chamber'? >why can't i be happy being alone, and why isn't that okay with >everyone else? not everyone is meant for someone. What I learned is that if you want to be happy being alone, everybody else will be =perfectly= happy with that decision. Like me, say. Har har. Ouchie. On a brighter note: Health Tip: Since quitting smoking a month ago I can now hit all of Monica Queen's notes on LLPJ with full wide-swing-vibrato without sounding like boozy Judy Garland! Skippee! Can't understand how anyone can hate the Ramones. They're just one of those things that remind me of why it's -still- great to be alive after you discover that even your clone has a bigger penis than you. My dog loves them so much and she doesn't even like Belle and Sebastian though that could be because she's getting hard of hearing. Now I wanna sniff some poo, -Moussetaffa And I want to be a bird, when I grow up. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Tue Nov 24 16:00:52 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:00:52 -0500 Subject: Sinister: jessica & ahren - oh! the drama of it all.... References: <19981124155525.15428.rocketmail@send105.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: <365AD834.F43D6722@itl.ca> gateau du wizz wrote: > oh for crying out loud!!! > > Jessica wrote: > "okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in > the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little > groping." > > Dramatis Personae wrote: > "If Ahren were my man, oh the two of you would get > a swift ass-whooping!" > > bah! there's no harm in a shift! jessica, your success with ahren is > to be admired! puritans may claim that you are unfairly "parking your > chicken beside a fox" (or some such) but we know, and have felt, your > ache when you lerved ahren from afar, when he went out and got himself > a girliefriend and when he dumped her how your heart missed a beat! > how terrible it was of him to go back to her because he was "missing > the sex"....dawhling, i've been there....my virgil/penelope/X love > triangle is one complicated nightmare from which i am trying to awake > (i know the hangover will be a mutha!). > > but now it's no more mister jessica nice guy! tinystar love > implosion! > > aah, it still gives me a warm fuzzy glow thinking about how you went, > saw and conquered like so many historic figures before your time. a > modern day helen of troy (is that a clothes horse you pinned him > aginst in the stockroom? beware...) > > now, if you want the girlfriend wiped out i can organise it but it'll > cost ya. > > lady penelope, gateau du wizz. > Well - this is all getting positively Springer-esque. Who'll be first to throw a chair? -- Frank Yang "It's funny 'cause it's not me." In my CD player: Pulp - This Is Hardcore +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArcosM at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 16:04:11 1998 From: ArcosM at xxx.com (Arcos, Maria) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:04:11 -0600 Subject: Sinister: tongue kissing Message-ID: <819A66D53B33D011B2F800805FD6D47003119B2B@exchange> I completely agree with Dramatis. If you ask most people kissing *is* cheating. Jessica, if you are still in doubt, why don't you ask Ahren's girlfriend. I'm sure she could enlighten you on the finer details. You are exactly the kind of girl (I don't say woman cuz obviously you are not mature enough) other women have to look out for. So enjoy your little ride-it won't last! -----Original Message----- From: Dramatis Personae [mailto:tragedienne at xxx.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 9:19 AM To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Re: Sinister: tongue kissing Jessica wrote: "okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little groping." Normally, I would say "You go girl!!", but Ahren's got a girlfriend, so this makes the two of you partners in mischief. If Ahren were my man, oh the two of you would get a swift ass-whooping! Aren't there plenty of single men to seduce? God, some women just have no respect for other women's property! _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 16:10:09 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:10:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: my last post today - i swear Message-ID: <19981124161009.20826.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com> i just remembered my dream from last night! finally! okay...something was not quite right as in dreams is often the case....some chick showed up at my door and she looked all pasty and gothy but was wearing skimpy undergarments and not much else. ahem. so she said she was someone from the sinister list (can't remember who) and could i allow her inside. so i said yes. and inside she came. the door was closed and she immedaitely went for my flatmate G's jugular and i was really pissed off with her coz of trhe mess and G was dead and stuff. i then remembered that i had been receiving strange emails from someone on the list who looked exactly like this scantily clad vampish vixen staring at me all bloody. she had contacted me to tell me how she had a huge tooth the size of a pelvis removed from under her tongue in an epic 5 day surgery fest...upon removal this tooth which did indeed resemble two halves of a pelvis was placed in a jam jar (remember i was dreaming). the jam jar containing the odd tooth suddenly was resting on the coffee table. french kissing in the usa woke me up. isn't that a fucked up dream to have? _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ArcosM at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 16:21:54 1998 From: ArcosM at xxx.com (Arcos, Maria) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:21:54 -0600 Subject: FW: Sinister: tongue kissing Message-ID: <819A66D53B33D011B2F800805FD6D47003119B2D@exchange> -----Original Message----- From: Arcos, Maria Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 10:04 AM To: 'sinister at majordomo.net' Subject: RE: Sinister: tongue kissing I completely agree with Dramatis. If you ask most people kissing *is* cheating. Jessica, if you are still in doubt, why don't you ask Ahren's girlfriend. I'm sure she could enlighten you on the finer details. You are exactly the kind of girl (I don't say woman cuz obviously you are not mature enough) other women have to look out for. So enjoy your little ride-it won't last! -----Original Message----- From: Dramatis Personae [mailto:tragedienne at xxx.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 9:19 AM To: sinister at majordomo.net Subject: Re: Sinister: tongue kissing Jessica wrote: "okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little groping." Normally, I would say "You go girl!!", but Ahren's got a girlfriend, so this makes the two of you partners in mischief. If Ahren were my man, oh the two of you would get a swift ass-whooping! Aren't there plenty of single men to seduce? God, some women just have no respect for other women's property! _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 16:50:26 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 11:50:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: morality police Message-ID: <00d401be17ca$aa99ee80$5d1e05d1@tinystar> i've been getting generally good reaction to the ahren kiss, except for one extremely moral soul who threatened me with an ass-whupping and pointed out that ahren has a girlfriend. true, true, but i will explain: he broke up with her about a month ago because she's too clingy and never goes out and is an all-around wet blanket. well, she kept calling him and sobbing and showing up at his house begging him to take her back, that if he took her back that she would be different, blahblah. ahren just wanted to stop her from being so darn obsessive, and he did still want to sleep with her (ah, here's the catch), so he's now going out with her again and actually sees less of her than when they weren't together, which suits him just fine. and it's common knowledge that he's just with her for sex and nothing else. i would like to point out that ahren is going to university in san diego next year and is leaving in june, so this coupled with several other factors (his spinelessness, for one) would make it difficult to have a real relationship. which i don't want anyways. yeesh, i just feel that i need to kiss him. that's it, and believe me, i wouldn't have done it if he had a girlfriend in every sense of the word, but he doesn't...he just has a girltoy, which yes, is a little like what i'm doing, but at least i'm not begging to be called a girlfriend. so hopefully this will allay the fears of those of you who have decided that i'm some sort of homewrecker. and thanks to those of you who are standing on the sidelines with pompoms and little skirts. i can't believe that it's november 24 and we still haven't had any snow in toronto. very cold rain, yes, and also chilly days, but no snow. this is so bizarre. i am eating skittles and listening to my christmas cocktails cd to try and get me in the festive mood. speaking of a festive mood, would other torontonians like to have a sinister christmas meet? perhaps some sort of secret santa thing could be arranged. damn, it's cold in here. i've got to turn up the heat. love, jessicaxo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Matthew.Stead at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 21:47:30 1998 From: Matthew.Stead at xxx.uk (Stead, Matthew) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:47:30 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: tongue kissing In-Reply-To: <819A66D53B33D011B2F800805FD6D47003119B2B@exchange> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:04:11 -0600 "Arcos, Maria" wrote: > > I completely agree with Dramatis. If you ask most people kissing *is* > cheating. Jessica, if you are still in doubt, why don't you ask Ahren's > girlfriend. I'm sure she could enlighten you on the finer details. You are > exactly the kind of girl (I don't say woman cuz obviously you are not mature > enough) other women have to look out for. -- Oh c'mon. Let the girl have some fun. If you'd lusted after Ahren for so long would you not have pounced on the opportunity.:0) Besides if what Ahren's done is so wrong, then perhaps he doesn't deserve his girlfriend. In that case he could be swiftly swept off his feet by his new love. > So enjoy your little ride-it won't last! -- Don't be so nasty! Take care Matty.xxx PS. Sorry if I'm a bit pushy, but I'm in a mood 'cos I can't find The Field Mice double Cd anywhere in Bristol!:0) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 14:44:02 1998 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:44:02 +0000 Subject: Sinister: the future's orange - competition results Message-ID: <0012D464.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> I have been in agonies of indecision about the winning poem. There were so many brilliant entries, I wish I could have picked you all (sob). I hope to be able to post the rest to the list or put them up on the website with the permission of HoneyPaul. But in the end there can only be one winner in the category of "best poem" and here it is. (The winner of the "most comic" will be posted tomorrow.) Thanks to all who took part for your valiant entries. Charlotte I'M JUST A LAZYBONES As the sun rises, and stains the sky orange, I curl up in bed, dreaming smells of porridge And toast, and letters. Sunbeams skate over dusty air, their pure full lips kiss my eyes with arterial purple, So I turn away. Icicles drip, waters plummet and run the Race with leaves over the roof. It's the month Autumn's falling asleep But buzz, buzz - I'm waking up. I slide out from the bed into my silver Trousers. They make me smile, so I kill the Alarm, and get ready to pull the day into shape. ROBIN STOUT +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 16:58:57 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:58:57 -0800 Subject: Sinister: morality police Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630471737@EDINBURGH> This list is getting very 'Jerry Springer'. Does this Ahren bloke have a mullet haircut and mustache per-chance? > ---------- > From: jessica[SMTP:tinystar at xxx.com] > Reply To: jessica > Sent: 24 November 1998 16:50 > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: morality police > > i've been getting generally good reaction to the ahren kiss, except for > one extremely moral soul who threatened me with an ass-whupping and > pointed out that ahren has a girlfriend. true, true, but i will explain: > he broke up with her about a month ago because she's too clingy and never > goes out and is an all-around wet blanket. well, she kept calling him and > sobbing and showing up at his house begging him to take her back, that if > he took her back that she would be different, blahblah............ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ihamilt at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 17:08:47 1998 From: Ihamilt at xxx.com (Ihamilt at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:08:47 EST Subject: Sinister: tongue kissing Message-ID: <39ded788.365ae81f@aol.com> In a message dated 24/11/98 03:48:48 GMT, tinystar at worldy.com writes: << okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little groping. Whenever i read these posts the following words leap into my mind "Its something to speak of the way you are feeling to crowds there assembled, do you ever feel that you've gone too far" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From geek_girl at xxx.net Tue Nov 24 16:02:54 1998 From: geek_girl at xxx.net (Kung Fu Faker) Date: 24 Nov 98 11:02:54 EST Subject: Sinister: morality police Message-ID: <19981124160255.13069.qmail@www0s.netaddress.usa.net> hey gorgeous (yes you!), now i'm just confounded, with all the negative things you described about Ahren--he was still lust/kiss worthy? (but looking back on the horrible men i fancied in the past, i should best keep my mouth shut.) i suppose since the relationship was so twisted and demented in the first place, you probably didn't too much more harm. oh, my friends and i have concluded that record store employees are some of the most crushable individuals. we've all had mini-infatuations on at least one guy from nearly every downtown NYC music retail establishment. a while back, I was developing a zine and the first issue's theme was supposed to be crushes, but it all fell through cos my anticipated contributors all flaked out. Of course, now I'm totally inspired to get it started again--I currently have two victims for my man-chasing madness! smooches, a jessica wrote: i've been getting generally good reaction to the ahren kiss, except for one extremely moral soul who threatened me with an ass-whupping and pointed out that ahren has a girlfriend. true, true, but i will explain: he broke up with her about a month ago because she's too clingy and never goes out and is an all-around wet blanket. well, she kept calling him and sobbing and showing up at his house begging him to take her back, that if he took her back that she would be different, blahblah. ahren just wanted to stop her from being so darn obsessive, and he did still want to sleep with her (ah, here's the catch), so he's now going out with her again and actually sees less of her than when they weren't together, which suits him just fine. and it's common knowledge that he's just with her for sex and nothing else. i would like to point out that ahren is going to university in san diego next year and is leaving in june, so this coupled with several other factors (his spinelessness, for one) would make it difficult to have a real relationship. which i don't want anyways. yeesh, i just feel that i need to kiss him. that's it, and believe me, i wouldn't have done it if he had a girlfriend in every sense of the word, but he doesn't...he just has a girltoy, which yes, is a little like what i'm doing, but at least i'm not begging to be called a girlfriend. so hopefully this will allay the fears of those of you who have decided that i'm some sort of homewrecker. and thanks to those of you who are standing on the sidelines with pompoms and little skirts. The squat was a difficult position that most yoga teachers have problems assuming, but the disenfranchised in all societies do it with ease. -Paul Beatty ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 18:30:21 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:30:21 PST Subject: Sinister: concentric circles Message-ID: <19981124183021.19953.qmail@hotmail.com> I was re-reading The Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon last night when I came upon the following paragraph. It reminded me of this list and all the friendships we've all made through it whether real or dreamt. "In Golden Gate Park she came on a circle of children in their nightclothes, who told her they were dreaming the gathering. But that the dream was really no different from being awake, because in the mornings when they got up they felt tired, as if they'd been up most of the night. When their mothers thought they were out playing they were really curled up in cupboards of neighbors' houses, in platforms up in trees, in secretly-hollowed nests inside hedges, sleeping, making up for these hours. The night was empty of all the terror for them, they had inside their circle an imaginary fire, and needed nothing but their own unpenetrated sense of community." Yer pal, Rachael ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ar981611 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 18:35:52 1998 From: ar981611 at xxx.uk (Ailsa Ross) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:35:52 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Any Calvin & Hobbes fans? Message-ID: <365AFC88.71ADAE8A@student.paisley.ac.uk> Noticed during my lurkings that there are various cartoon fans out there - any of you calvin & hobbes fans, they seem the obvious choice for B&S fans. I always thought it would be nice to be Calvin, to have adventures, imagination and a best friend who never let you down.... Any Glaswegians listees interested in meeting up, a couple of us are trying to organise a get-together, any takers please email me and we'll sort out a time and a place via the meeting board as soon as more than a couple of people show an interest rob and lady p - your tapes and CDs are in the post (honest) Oh and Mike is that field mice song "anyone else isn't you"? (Anyone else just isn't you / and if I can't have you I want to be alone) Dunno the ep but it's on "Coastal" which I can copy if you want... keep smiling kids, only 32 days till Xmas. santa bought me a tazmanian devil keyring last week as an early present.... Ailsa xxx In my stereo: Furniture "Food Sex and Paranoia" Some lyrics I like:- "You should put an advert in the music press 'Sensitive boy seeks a girl in a flowery dress'" "Bubblegum" - Helen Love "The lyrics aren't supposed to mean that much They're just a vehicle for a lovely voice" "An Open Letter to the Lyrical Trainspotter" - Mansun +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cms247 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 24 18:51:30 1998 From: cms247 at xxx.edu (clint stauffer) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:51:30 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Mullet haircuts References: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630471737@EDINBURGH> Message-ID: <365B0032.FC4A4DB1@is6.nyu.edu> >This list is getting very 'Jerry Springer'. Does this Ahren >bloke have a mullet haircut and mustache per-chance? What is a mullet haircut? I asked myself that very same question after reading John's message, so I investigated (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6906/). It appears a mullet haircut is what I've always know to be referred to as "hockey hair" or a "butt-rocker" haircut. A good tie-in with the recent dicussions of American trailer parks. My question is the following: Does listening to country music, watching pro wrestling, and driving Camaros lead one to get a mullet haircut, or is it that people with mullet haircuts are naturally draw to these pursuits? It's sort of a chicken-and-the-egg discussion. Any opinions would be appreciated. Clint (who was rather surprised by the dearth of mullet haircuts at the B&S shows) PS: You can hit the delete key now. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SPRFNK at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 18:59:50 1998 From: SPRFNK at xxx.com (SPRFNK at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 13:59:50 EST Subject: Sinister: Mullet haircuts Message-ID: <1371524e.365b0226@aol.com> hahaha--i just wanted to say that this made me laugh--hehe--and by the way--when i was like in 3rd grade---i had a pretty bad mullet hairdo--and then it got worse in the 4th grade when i decided that a perm would look real hot with a mullet--hahahahah---ok but now i know what looks good--so i am ok now-- hehe byebye kristin :) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rwjf1 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 19:12:01 1998 From: rwjf1 at xxx.uk (Robert Fisk) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:12:01 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) Subject: Sinister: Computer crashes In-Reply-To: <1371524e.365b0226@aol.com> Message-ID: Hi ya Am I the only one that cannot read Jessica's e-mails? Every time I do my computer just crashes. Can anyone read her messages and then forward them to me at rwjf1 at ukc.ac.uk please. I know it's a lot to ask but I would be v.grateful. Robert ---------------------- Robert Fisk rwjf1 at ukc.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Tue Nov 24 19:13:26 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:13:26 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Mullet haircuts References: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630471737@EDINBURGH> <365B0032.FC4A4DB1@is6.nyu.edu> Message-ID: <365B0556.C2AEC86F@itl.ca> clint stauffer wrote: > >This list is getting very 'Jerry Springer'. Does this Ahren > >bloke have a mullet haircut and mustache per-chance? > > What is a mullet haircut? > I asked myself that very same question after reading John's message, so I > investigated (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6906/). It appears a > mullet haircut is what I've always know to be referred to as "hockey hair" or a > "butt-rocker" haircut. A good tie-in with the recent dicussions of American > trailer parks. My question is the following: Does listening to country music, > watching pro wrestling, and driving Camaros lead one to get a mullet haircut, > or is it that people with mullet haircuts are naturally draw to these > pursuits? It's sort of a chicken-and-the-egg discussion. Any opinions would > be appreciated. Having lived amongst the mullet-headed for a summer (Oshawa Ontario provides invaluable field study opportunities for those interested in this species), I can offer the following: the hair does not occur as a result of the watching wrasslin' or waiting anxiously for the new Aerosmith record. NOr does one drive a bitchin' camaro because of the haircut. All these things seem to occur simultaneously - because the individual, for some reason, thinks - hey, this looks really good, and chicks'll dig me. Other popular items are acid-wash jeans, t-shirts with slogans on them (I'm with stupid comes to mind, but that's a little more cerebral than most) and of course the obligatory moustache. Other offences to good taste I witnessed - a neon purple pick-up truck lowered so it drove about four inches off the ground with purple running lights and a chain around the license plate. I dunno what it is - maybe they just don't get cable tv or are trapped in a space/time loop which has trapped them forever in 1985. It's the Wedding Singer to the nth degree. Scary scary. -- Frank Yang "Homer, you've got it set on 'whore'." In my CD player: Mark Eitzel - West +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From RAnder3567 at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 19:15:51 1998 From: RAnder3567 at xxx.com (RAnder3567 at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:15:51 EST Subject: Sinister: Nick Drake Tribute Show in London Message-ID: <763d8f53.365b05e7@aol.com> If any Sisterines are Nick Drake fans - and you all should be (!) - there is a Nick Drake tribute show Weds Nov 25th in London at the 12 Bar Club. If anyone attends and procures an audience tape, I'd love to trade some other Drake rarities for it! Robert Stuck Inside of New York With The Nick Drake Blues Again +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Tue Nov 24 19:43:44 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:43:44 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Being alone Message-ID: <4E2D92837F8@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> >>why can't i be happy being alone, and why isn't that okay with >>everyone else? not everyone is meant for someone. >What I learned is that if you want to be happy being alone, >everybody else will be =perfectly= happy with that decision. Like >me, say. Har har. Ouchie. I have been wondering about that a lot .. I am a loner most of the time cos I am very narrowminded and need to get my own way ..and can't amuse myself like everybody else (I don't to) As I always was like that I got used to hiding in my room with a book and some good music .... Now I do have one good friend but apart from that Only once in a while though I get lonely ...and wish I could ... find people to spend my time with ... But I can't cos it would be pretty rude ... cos 90 or say 80 percent of the time I want to be alone ... and that wouldn't be fair on a friend you know I don't want people to ask me to join in things I hate doing cos I don't wanna say no .... vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 19:35:08 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:35:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Alice L Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E3F1@NCMSERVER> Lady penelope (in the middle of a very long message) wrote... the catchers have a new album out...i had forgotten they existed because the last time i saw them they supported a house at the garage in london - 1994 - i guess i had a crush on alice lemon. she had enormous boobs i remember. and a too-small top. saw the new album in rough trade the other day and nearly fell over. i will purchase when i hear something about it I knew it was out, but it seems to be a UFO album, like The Frank and Walters' Grand Parade that rarely appears in densely populated areas, preferring the anonymity of provincial towns. I only saw one review, which gave a pretty average rating, although it was the NME I think, and what does that scally-rag know about anything? I have to recommend the "shifting" e.p for the superb "Christina" (those who have received my tape tree tape will know it), and a lovely song called Summer's nearly over. Oh look, someone else has written... Oh, oh, oh. I've been dying to recommend this album for the past two weeks...The lead singer is male with a sort of um... irish i guess, kind of voice (does that make sense? he says "aout" for "out" hehe) and there is also a female who does some vocals But it's not going to stop me... I remember Alice Lemon's 'boobs' (oh, really!) as well, from when I saw them playing upstairs at the Garage. I could've sworn she kept looking at me and smiling...and my feet hurt from standing on tip-toes all the way through the gig. Can't remember why. I guess I was entranced by the fact that the Alice Lemon on the cover of Mute looked nothing like the Alice Lemon in a short shiny dress on stage in Islington. (stop this crassness now!) Incidentally, support that night came from another irish combo by the name of erm, I forget, except that there were three of them, the lead singer was too thin, their single was called I am the Supergrass or something like that, they appeared on Jools Holland just after I'd been to see them (no coincidence methinks) and I saw a programme about them on TARA (which I only watch for re-runs of the 1990 world cup as a rule) Sorry to continue with all this rampant male hormonal rutting, but I have to point out (because it's just occurred to me for the first time in ages) that I was utterly entranced by the sight of Juliana Hatfield clutching a guitar some years back. Lovely. Neil xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From janine at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 20:19:49 1998 From: janine at xxx.com (Janine Papp) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:19:49 -0500 Subject: Sinister: lookee what I just got in my inbox Message-ID: what's this?? A post about something belle and sebastian related? why yes it is! (at first) >From the fine folks at SUB P!O!O! : M A R C H 9 LOOPER Up a Tree LP/CD Stuart David of Belle & Sebastian spins charming tales of climbing trees & burning flies over bouncy homemade beats. Looper shares the same playful spirit found in Land of the Loops. Check out Looper's "Impossible Things" single, released on Sub Pop over the summer. ps. happy turkey or tofurkey day to all and if you live somewhere besides the u.s.(which many of you do) then happy plain ol' day and I recommed stuffing yourselves silly in sympathy with us. p.p.s. it's my birthday tomorrow and the weeklong celebration continues! That's right, I decided to celebrate for an entire week just for the heck of it. woohoo! It started last saturday with a surprise party. by the end of the week I will be sick of celebrating, I'm sure. ok ONE more thing - well TWO more... 1.) shoot, I forget now. 2.) does anyone know good places sorta near but not in NY (like philly, R.I. D.C., etc.) where my band could play? anyone in these places have bands that would like to play with mine? Queen Bee Janine +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 20:10:37 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:10:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: This is the module world Message-ID: Module citizen David Kitchen wrote, "I feel I'm being sterotyped here" and I can only sympathise. How do you think everybody reacts when I tell them I live in Elephant & Castle? I certainly wasn't out to say that all UK estates are decrepit shite-holes, just attempting to give our US listees a fair comparison to make with their very own, much-loved 'trailer trash'. Anyway, I'm dreaming of a white (trash) Christmas myself - Christmas dinner in the Binar indian restaurant in Chorley, Lancs with my brother and his 800 kids. Turkey curry and ten pints of lager. Sorted. However, before we leave this sociocultural discourse for dead, who's the worst band to ever sport council estate chic? Was it t'Uproar, or perchance the Bridewell Taxis. Flowered Up or 38 Summers? And just how sad is that bloke out of Hurricane #1? By the way, am I alone in finding Pauline Calf strangely alluring? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmj204 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 24 23:22:45 1998 From: rmj204 at xxx.edu (Rich Juzwiak) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:22:45 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Middle Distance Runner, and some other stuff. Message-ID: <199811242024.PAA13199@is7.nyu.edu> Hey all- I have a few things that I'm curious about or want to comment on... 1) Anyone have the lyrics to "Lonliness of the Middle Distance Runner?" Why hasn't this song been released yet? It's totally amazing (at the top of my list of favorite songs)... Oh, if you have the lyrics, could you post them on the list or e-mail them to me? 2) Anyone have an interpretation for "You're making blinders fashionable" in "Century of Fakers?" It's been puzzling me for some time... 3) Whoever commented on "TBWTAS" being played at Tiswas in NYC...cool. I used to go there all of the time last year...never played any B&S...I was actually recently wondering if I went this year if Nick Mark would play B&S...incentive to go now... Thanks! Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 20:40:59 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:40:59 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: Nope, can't think of one... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Well the list's certainly busy today. I'll probably get told off if I complain about people sending 10 posts a day instead of one long one, or sending lists of bands they like without saying why, so I won't bother. On sartorial matters: On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, Robin Stout wrote: > I have a duffel coat, which i love, but I seem to get no end of abuse > for wearing it. Insults usually take the highly original form of "OI, > duffel!". I just run away - once they get you by the toggles there's > no escape. The chief culprits are puffa jacket wearers, the types who > hang around the bus stops with their "White Storm" cider cos they're > too young to get in the pubs. Maybe the duffel is the puffa's natural > enemy. Am I alone in finding puffa jacket wearers (uhoh, sweeping generalisation coming up...) some of the most dull, narrowminded, all-my-friends-are-wearing-one-so-I'd-better-wear-one-too people around? (see, told you so...). Sorry if this offends anyone. Actually no, I hope it does offend someone because that would mean that there was actually an open-minded puffa-wearer out there somewhere and the world would be a better place. I mean, there must be some nice people who wear the things, I just don't think I've ever met any. The war on unoriginality starts here. Personally, I'm a fleece man. Sorry if I'm sounding a bit arsey tonight, I'm just not in a very happy mood. You see my sister's been down to visit for a couple of days (which is a good thing), but she's been telling me what the situation is like staying with my parents at the moment (which is a bad thing). And I'm about to head up there for 4 weeks for the Christmas break. You would not believe how stressful it is putting up with family life at the moment. Speaking of which, is anything still happening about a Glasgow meetup round New Year sometime? I'll probably be in Scotland at the time, and it'll give me a couple more days away from the parents... Big Stu Currently on my CD player - 4 tape cases and some sheets of paper. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Tue Nov 24 22:31:43 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:31:43 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Fw: 16 candles is crap/tribute to mick cooke/etc Message-ID: <000d01be17fa$377db280$3511020a@rebelstrange> -----Original Message----- From: RebelStrange To: sinister at majordomo.net" Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 2:31 PM Subject: 16 candles is crap/tribute to mick cooke/etc >ahem.... >first of all.let me be the first to say that soap operas interest me not in >the least, and the same with snogging lunky boys in whatever capacity. boys >are icky, let it be said. nothing personal, but this ahren fellow sounds >like a bowl of grease. blech. the only boy in my heart is Stuart murdoch, >aye right. > >ironically as the gen-x topic was coming on, someone mentioned those abysmal >16 Candle's 1980's teenage films, all of which starred andrew mccarthy and >molly ringwald, and all of which i ignored with the utmost conviction in my >time, regardless of the begging of my peers to join in the whimsical fun. I >think i am the only person of the ages 20-30 who was not enamored of those >films, or at least i appear to be, every corner i turn someone is blithely >singing the praises of Pretty in Pink. let me be the first to say, all >those films were relentlessly crap, farcical, and cruel. they present us >with the lie that once you reach the age of 16, your life will be filled >with crazy hijinx, necking, boyfriends, proposals, dances, and teenage kix. >that never happened to me. i was sitting alone in my room playing suede >records over and over again, and fretting about why i was so attracted to >Polly Harvey, and eavesdroppping on my younger sister's phone calls in which >she accused me of being a lesbian(natch!). I would say that is nothing like >the vision of utopia(sic) the movies promised us. Call me bitter and >wizened, yes i am an old maid at 21. throw your stones now, please. >I LOVE that dream about the b/s concert. if anyone else has any fabulous >belle dreams, i'd be happy to make a collection of them because they are so >fascinating. > >announcement: the dulcet, yet bold, tones of mr. Mick Cooke have as of >yesterday persuaded me to pick up my trumpet once again. i was playing that >fanfare from dog on wheels, over and over again....i played for 8 years in >school but i'mve been lazy about it the last couple years. it feels good i >must say. i recommend everyone should learn a wind instrument, it teaches >you breath control that can be almost meditative, you can release the energy >of your prana and what not, and i think it also makes you better at singing. >I forgot how much i loved playing it. thank you Mick cooke. it's funny >when people who dont' play brass try to play one, like stuart blowing on >that trumpet hehe, it always sounds like this: >"BblllllEEAAAGHHHHGHGHGBBAAAGHGHGHHHHH!!!!" that is because brass players >have trained athletic lips that can do superhuman things and withstand >coal-forming pressure. (not to mention the divine tongue flutter move!!!) >thats why i encourage any so-inclined lassie who might happen to look like >isobel, that your chance with me would be well spent and worthy. actually, >i'm lying, you wouldn't have to look like Isobel, it would just be a good >way to get your foot in the door so to speak. oh dear, i fear i may have >used up today's smut content there. "You won't be happy with me, but give >me one more chance, you won't be happy anyway." my favorite line. > >I also learned "Losing It" on guitar last night, tho i think the octave >might need a bit of moving for me to sing it properly. not that i would >recommend listening to me sing, though jess said that my voice was nice. >(we sang an awful lot of Merritt-tunes together on our DC trip, not to >mention "you're on top of the WOrld a GAIANN!!") > >My new zine issue is gonna be out today, and it will have the requisite b/s >content, such as a feature on my Pop star crush Isobel, but the mega >belle-content is saved for the winter issue, a whole feature on the DC trip >and its mythology and significance to the reconstruction of the disbanded >soviet union and the problems of nascent capitalism and uh, stuff. >wouldn't you know it, two days in a row, both BOTH copy shops in town had >broken machines and couldn't do my copies!! i think they were conspiring >against the subversive and titillating content i intend to foist upon an >unwilling populace!!! > >uh i had more stuff to say but i forgot, duh-HEE!!! me so silly. >i'm wearing myklunky shoes today. they go well with a study at stow shirt, >and some nice powder blue flares, and a long brown suede jacket. > >lesley Jo >"there was no reason to exist >if you weren't on the mailing list" >(!)=) > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Tue Nov 24 22:32:07 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:32:07 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Fw: 16 candles is crap/tribute to mick cooke/etc Message-ID: <001001be17fa$45fe2920$3511020a@rebelstrange> -----Original Message----- From: RebelStrange To: sinister at majordomo.net" Date: Tuesday, November 24, 1998 2:31 PM Subject: 16 candles is crap/tribute to mick cooke/etc >ahem.... >first of all.let me be the first to say that soap operas interest me not in >the least, and the same with snogging lunky boys in whatever capacity. boys >are icky, let it be said. nothing personal, but this ahren fellow sounds >like a bowl of grease. blech. the only boy in my heart is Stuart murdoch, >aye right. > >ironically as the gen-x topic was coming on, someone mentioned those abysmal >16 Candle's 1980's teenage films, all of which starred andrew mccarthy and >molly ringwald, and all of which i ignored with the utmost conviction in my >time, regardless of the begging of my peers to join in the whimsical fun. I >think i am the only person of the ages 20-30 who was not enamored of those >films, or at least i appear to be, every corner i turn someone is blithely >singing the praises of Pretty in Pink. let me be the first to say, all >those films were relentlessly crap, farcical, and cruel. they present us >with the lie that once you reach the age of 16, your life will be filled >with crazy hijinx, necking, boyfriends, proposals, dances, and teenage kix. >that never happened to me. i was sitting alone in my room playing suede >records over and over again, and fretting about why i was so attracted to >Polly Harvey, and eavesdroppping on my younger sister's phone calls in which >she accused me of being a lesbian(natch!). I would say that is nothing like >the vision of utopia(sic) the movies promised us. Call me bitter and >wizened, yes i am an old maid at 21. throw your stones now, please. >I LOVE that dream about the b/s concert. if anyone else has any fabulous >belle dreams, i'd be happy to make a collection of them because they are so >fascinating. > >announcement: the dulcet, yet bold, tones of mr. Mick Cooke have as of >yesterday persuaded me to pick up my trumpet once again. i was playing that >fanfare from dog on wheels, over and over again....i played for 8 years in >school but i'mve been lazy about it the last couple years. it feels good i >must say. i recommend everyone should learn a wind instrument, it teaches >you breath control that can be almost meditative, you can release the energy >of your prana and what not, and i think it also makes you better at singing. >I forgot how much i loved playing it. thank you Mick cooke. it's funny >when people who dont' play brass try to play one, like stuart blowing on >that trumpet hehe, it always sounds like this: >"BblllllEEAAAGHHHHGHGHGBBAAAGHGHGHHHHH!!!!" that is because brass players >have trained athletic lips that can do superhuman things and withstand >coal-forming pressure. (not to mention the divine tongue flutter move!!!) >thats why i encourage any so-inclined lassie who might happen to look like >isobel, that your chance with me would be well spent and worthy. actually, >i'm lying, you wouldn't have to look like Isobel, it would just be a good >way to get your foot in the door so to speak. oh dear, i fear i may have >used up today's smut content there. "You won't be happy with me, but give >me one more chance, you won't be happy anyway." my favorite line. > >I also learned "Losing It" on guitar last night, tho i think the octave >might need a bit of moving for me to sing it properly. not that i would >recommend listening to me sing, though jess said that my voice was nice. >(we sang an awful lot of Merritt-tunes together on our DC trip, not to >mention "you're on top of the WOrld a GAIANN!!") > >My new zine issue is gonna be out today, and it will have the requisite b/s >content, such as a feature on my Pop star crush Isobel, but the mega >belle-content is saved for the winter issue, a whole feature on the DC trip >and its mythology and significance to the reconstruction of the disbanded >soviet union and the problems of nascent capitalism and uh, stuff. >wouldn't you know it, two days in a row, both BOTH copy shops in town had >broken machines and couldn't do my copies!! i think they were conspiring >against the subversive and titillating content i intend to foist upon an >unwilling populace!!! > >uh i had more stuff to say but i forgot, duh-HEE!!! me so silly. >i'm wearing myklunky shoes today. they go well with a study at stow shirt, >and some nice powder blue flares, and a long brown suede jacket. > >lesley Jo >"there was no reason to exist >if you weren't on the mailing list" >(!)=) > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Tue Nov 24 22:33:08 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:33:08 -0800 Subject: Sinister: tribute to mick cooke Message-ID: <001401be17fa$6a231720$3511020a@rebelstrange> >ahem.... >first of all.let me be the first to say that soap operas interest me not in >the least, and the same with snogging lunky boys in whatever capacity. boys >are icky, let it be said. nothing personal, but this ahren fellow sounds >like a bowl of grease. blech. the only boy in my heart is Stuart murdoch, >aye right. > >ironically as the gen-x topic was coming on, someone mentioned those abysmal >16 Candle's 1980's teenage films, all of which starred andrew mccarthy and >molly ringwald, and all of which i ignored with the utmost conviction in my >time, regardless of the begging of my peers to join in the whimsical fun. I >think i am the only person of the ages 20-30 who was not enamored of those >films, or at least i appear to be, every corner i turn someone is blithely >singing the praises of Pretty in Pink. let me be the first to say, all >those films were relentlessly crap, farcical, and cruel. they present us >with the lie that once you reach the age of 16, your life will be filled >with crazy hijinx, necking, boyfriends, proposals, dances, and teenage kix. >that never happened to me. i was sitting alone in my room playing suede >records over and over again, and fretting about why i was so attracted to >Polly Harvey, and eavesdroppping on my younger sister's phone calls in which >she accused me of being a lesbian(natch!). I would say that is nothing like >the vision of utopia(sic) the movies promised us. Call me bitter and >wizened, yes i am an old maid at 21. throw your stones now, please. >I LOVE that dream about the b/s concert. if anyone else has any fabulous >belle dreams, i'd be happy to make a collection of them because they are so >fascinating. > >announcement: the dulcet, yet bold, tones of mr. Mick Cooke have as of >yesterday persuaded me to pick up my trumpet once again. i was playing that >fanfare from dog on wheels, over and over again....i played for 8 years in >school but i'mve been lazy about it the last couple years. it feels good i >must say. i recommend everyone should learn a wind instrument, it teaches >you breath control that can be almost meditative, you can release the energy >of your prana and what not, and i think it also makes you better at singing. >I forgot how much i loved playing it. thank you Mick cooke. it's funny >when people who dont' play brass try to play one, like stuart blowing on >that trumpet hehe, it always sounds like this: >"BblllllEEAAAGHHHHGHGHGBBAAAGHGHGHHHHH!!!!" that is because brass players >have trained athletic lips that can do superhuman things and withstand >coal-forming pressure. (not to mention the divine tongue flutter move!!!) >thats why i encourage any so-inclined lassie who might happen to look like >isobel, that your chance with me would be well spent and worthy. actually, >i'm lying, you wouldn't have to look like Isobel, it would just be a good >way to get your foot in the door so to speak. oh dear, i fear i may have >used up today's smut content there. "You won't be happy with me, but give >me one more chance, you won't be happy anyway." my favorite line. > >I also learned "Losing It" on guitar last night, tho i think the octave >might need a bit of moving for me to sing it properly. not that i would >recommend listening to me sing, though jess said that my voice was nice. >(we sang an awful lot of Merritt-tunes together on our DC trip, not to >mention "you're on top of the WOrld a GAIANN!!") > >My new zine issue is gonna be out today, and it will have the requisite b/s >content, such as a feature on my Pop star crush Isobel, but the mega >belle-content is saved for the winter issue, a whole feature on the DC trip >and its mythology and significance to the reconstruction of the disbanded >soviet union and the problems of nascent capitalism and uh, stuff. >wouldn't you know it, two days in a row, both BOTH copy shops in town had >broken machines and couldn't do my copies!! i think they were conspiring >against the subversive and titillating content i intend to foist upon an >unwilling populace!!! > >uh i had more stuff to say but i forgot, duh-HEE!!! me so silly. >i'm wearing myklunky shoes today. they go well with a study at stow shirt, >and some nice powder blue flares, and a long brown suede jacket. > >lesley Jo >"there was no reason to exist >if you weren't on the mailing list" >(!)=) > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kwl96 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 24 19:31:17 1998 From: kwl96 at xxx.edu (azrael) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:31:17 -0500 Subject: Sinister: goodbye Message-ID: well, i'm going home for thanksgiving break and i won't be able to check my mail, so i'm unsubbing until then. oh, i'll miss you all terribly while i'm gone! -kerry "i was just a teenage jesus freak. got drunk on punk and then i found my feet." -the jesus and mary chain, "stardust remedy." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Tue Nov 24 22:41:42 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:41:42 -0800 Subject: Sinister: a million X SORRY Message-ID: <002601be17fb$9c7fbd80$3511020a@rebelstrange> just wanted to say if i just did what i think i did, i sent my message like 3 times. i'm sorry. it kept saying it could not be sent/rejected by server, so i tried again, then i saw like 3 of them in my sent mail. please have mercy on me. all apologies lesley Jo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alix.campbell at xxx.net Tue Nov 24 20:58:48 1998 From: alix.campbell at xxx.net (Alix Campbell) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:58:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: if you know that you are thinking, are your thoughts genuine? Message-ID: <017301be17ed$541e1c20$243aa8c2@n2f9x2> STOAT! >You are >exactly the kind of girl (I don't say woman cuz obviously you are not >mature >enough) other women have to look out for. now, that is HARSH! personally i wish jessica all the best. but it's probably better that i shut up, else i'll get me into trouble again. there is no food in this house. my mother expects me to eat nasty runny soup. i would rather stick my head up a dead bear's arse. looks like it's the salad cream sandwich again.. relevance - je ne pense pas je ne know french pas either. i was followed by a UFO on saturday night. this is possibly the least Sinister thing i've ever done. i was forced to run away from the weird hovering thingy, in slight fright. just had to check i'd not written 'weird hoovering thingy'. it wasn't like an alien spaceship, more a big rotating stripy cloud. similar to that woody allen film about sex. only not a giant tit. actually it was nothing like that film. time to SHUT UP. alix.c "So don't approach me if you've no more to say than what you've been doing, or how much you paid for the beer in your hand. I really don't care and I might have to kill you, which wouldn't be fair. On me" - Prolapse 'Killing The Bland' +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Tue Nov 24 21:08:02 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:08:02 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: Mullet haircuts In-Reply-To: <365B0032.FC4A4DB1@is6.nyu.edu> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, clint stauffer wrote: > What is a mullet haircut? > I asked myself that very same question after reading John's message, so I > investigated (http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/6906/). It appears a > mullet haircut is what I've always know to be referred to as "hockey hair" or a > "butt-rocker" haircut. A good tie-in with the recent dicussions of American > trailer parks. My question is the following: Does listening to country music, > watching pro wrestling, and driving Camaros lead one to get a mullet haircut, > or is it that people with mullet haircuts are naturally draw to these > pursuits? Hiya Clint, you yank! You forgot John Cougar Mellencamp, Nascar racing, and Coors light! Yes, us Americans really do have a culture! But seriously, thanks to whoever did this site, for addressing one of the biggest fashion mysteries I have ever known, namely, why do people wear these stupid haircuts? I, myself, had a friend who was studying to be an architect! And he had a mullet! Now would you let this man design your house? He's probably do mullet bushes or something. And yet, the whole subject of mullets, white trash, and bad taste in general brings a larger problem to the surface for me, that is, who is in charge of defining bad taste? I ask this as someone who was indoctrinated into the study of art history during its flirtation with "poststructuralism," when you were taught to feel guilty if you asserted that you actually liked a Flemish painting better than a work by an untaught American folk artist, or a work depicting dogs playing pool on a piece of velvet (excuse the kitschy, trendy examples) because, after all, the divisions between "high" and "low" culture, have supposedly been obscured in the postmodern era. And yet, when you dare to assert that something reveals bad taste, you get a whole host of people calling you a snob and suddenly you don't feel so liberal anymore. This is a true dilemma for me, because I like to think of myself as a liberal and a fairly open, cosmopolitan person. Yet, I believe that there are certain distinctions. How can these be justified? How can you not sound like a snob? BTW - did David Bowie have an orange mullet? Ciao, Heather > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 21:25:16 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 16:25:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Mullet haircuts Message-ID: <003201be17f1$f3099040$711e05d1@tinystar> frank yang was in oshawa for some reason, and he wrote: >>Having lived amongst the mullet-headed for a summer (Oshawa Ontario provides >invaluable field study opportunities for those interested in this species), I can >offer the following:<< this is hilarious! i have a friend who lives in oshawa and goes to school in peterborough, so i can attest that every word frank says is true (at least about the ontario mullet culture). i think maybe part of the reason people get mullet haircuts and drive camaros (seen the other day: an iroc z emblazoned with "iroc your world") that live in smaller towns is that they don't realise that "the big city" isn't so big after all, and they feel distanced from any sort of reality. so they have to rely on television to form their style, and on smaller networks the only choice is often saved by the bell reruns and odd south american shows and horrible canadian broadcasting. so this whole mullet culture transforms itself simultaneously, i think, you end up in the frame of mind that if you're going to be cool that you should go the whole nine yards and not only go for the mullet, but also get the pink velcro reebok hitops and the spandex pants and the oversize sweatshirt hanging off one shoulder with "trinidad" on the front, and pink lipstick and blue eyeshadow and slouch socks, and find yourself a man who drives a pickup and drinks bud out of one of those novelty hats with the pouches for your beer and the straw that comes down so you don't have to get distracted while you're driving. ah yes, the sociology experiment that is ontario. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mike at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 21:49:16 1998 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 21:49:16 GMT Subject: Sinister: Tigermilk Emergency In-Reply-To: <001301be1765$867c9580$dc51f78c@student.harvard.edu> Message-ID: Can anybody help? At 21:30 tonight, after a long life and a short (but horrible sounding) illness, my Tigermilk/Sessions tape passed away. Can anyone in the UK help me with a much needed replacement? Obviously I'll send a blank tape/tape anything I have you might want (unlikely with all you eclectic souls out there, but you never know). Hoping someone, somewhere can help me! Mike -- Visit Traumatone/Great Northern Electrics on the web at http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 22:12:49 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:12:49 -0000 Subject: No subject In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001be17f7$9272a360$584d989e@elsato97> Ullo cha? > Module citizen David Kitchen wrote, "I feel I'm being sterotyped here" > and I can only sympathise. How do you think everybody reacts when I tell > them I live in Elephant & Castle? Hmm, actually I'd go, oh, someone who lives in London...but hey :) I'd actually think I wish I lived in a place called Elephant and Castle, much more fun than Warton eh?? Hmmm well yeah, but bear in mind shitty places aren't just on fucking council estates, there are places in Preston where stepping out to go to the shop means you have to face tons of shits, and this is pretty 'provincial' Preston, god knows what inner-city BIIIG cities are like. It's all the back streets half the casuals, kids who are so bored out oftheir minds you got fuck all to do. Even I live in a wee village, and you still find loads of casuals round here - mostly of the squaddie variety cos my village is married quarters, factory, old people.... sorry for being dull....d'oh....ooh I am...not knowing what fun stuff to write cos I'm halfway through doing media studies work and it is very very dull.... Martin wrote: >nyway, I'm dreaming of a white (trash) Christmas > myself - Christmas dinner in the Binar indian restaurant in Chorley, > Lancs with my brother and his 800 kids. Turkey curry and ten pints of > lager. Sorted. Strange person, why the hell would you want to be in Chorley over Christmas!! My friends and me are trying NOW to get ourselves the hell out of that area! Is that the Indian in a church?? I find taht pretty amazing, I think I may drag my friends there JUST BECAUSE!! Ten pints? Poof.... >just how sad is that bloke out of Hurricane #1? I'm glad you asked that. VERY. Kirstie wrote: >hahaha--i just wanted to say that this made me laugh--hehe--and by the >way--when i was like in 3rd grade---i had a pretty bad mullet hairdo--and then >it got worse in the 4th grade HAHAHA! Kirstie, do not worry, you are not the only one to have sported the mullet! I am sure Gary, known to many as MULLET RA can give you some brilliant advice on counselling the loss of a mullet - and also clashing luminous socks and pink tshirts. OOOOOOW the eighties. Thank topper my parents dressed me in pretty little skirts all the time so I didn't look a complete twat.... um, not that anyone else did of course....heheh! Alisa wrote: >any of you calvin & hobbes fans Why of COURSE! I love Calvin and HObbes!! I even cried at a Calvin and Hobbes cartoon once, you know the one where the little animal they found in the woods died? It was so sad! Um, and crying at Calvin and Hobbes IS NOT sad Sarah. OK then....Ill get me coat. I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From t.vlassopoulos at xxx.ca Tue Nov 24 17:27:01 1998 From: t.vlassopoulos at xxx.ca (t.vlassopoulos at xxx.ca) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 12:27:01 -0500 () Subject: Sinister: morality police In-Reply-To: <00d401be17ca$aa99ee80$5d1e05d1@tinystar> Message-ID: On Tue, 24 Nov 1998, jessica wrote: > i've been getting generally good reaction to the ahren kiss, except for one extremely moral soul who threatened me with an ass-whupping and pointed out that ahren has a girlfriend. true, true, but i will explain: he broke up with her about a month ago because she's too clingy and never goes out and is an all-around wet blanket. well, she kept calling him and sobbing and showing up at his house begging him to take her back, that if he took her back that she would be different, blahblah. ahren just wanted to stop her from being so darn obsessive, and he did still want to sleep with her (ah, here's the catch), so he's now going out with her again and actually sees less of her than when they weren't together, which suits him just fine. and it's common knowledge that he's just with her for sex and nothing else. i would like to point out that ahren is going to university in san diego next year and is leaving in june, so this coupled with several other factors (his spinelessness, for one) would make it difficult to have a real relationship. which i don't want anyways. yeesh, i just feel that i need to kiss him. that's it, and believe me, i wouldn't have done it if he had a girlfriend in every sense of the word, but he doesn't...he just has a girltoy, which yes, is a little like what i'm doing, but at least i'm not begging to be called a girlfriend. so hopefully this will allay the fears of those of you who have decided that i'm some sort of homewrecker. and thanks to those of you who are standing on the sidelines with pompoms and little skirts. > > i can't believe that it's november 24 and we still haven't had any snow in toronto. very cold rain, yes, and also chilly days, but no snow. this is so bizarre. i am eating skittles and listening to my christmas cocktails cd to try and get me in the festive mood. > > speaking of a festive mood, would other torontonians like to have a sinister christmas meet? perhaps some sort of secret santa thing could be arranged. damn, it's cold in here. i've got to turn up the heat. > > love, > jessicaxo > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Cebudo at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 22:31:09 1998 From: Cebudo at xxx.com (Cebudo at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:31:09 EST Subject: Sinister: Any Calvin and Hobbes fans? Message-ID: <37d7b11f.365b33ad@aol.com> why yes, i'm a calvin and hobbes fan. i think it's (was, i should say) one of the newspaper comic strips that's actually worthwhile. (others would be zippy the pinhead and underworld) since you're asking about comics, does anyone read 'em? i'm thinking of eightball, the acme novelty library, palooka-ville, hate, and sooooooo on... i love comics, myself. andrew. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmj204 at xxx.edu Tue Nov 24 22:31:31 1998 From: rmj204 at xxx.edu (Richard M Juzwiak) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 17:31:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: My err In-Reply-To: <199811242117.VAA16807@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: Hey all- Oops...the line in "Century of Fakers" is "'Cause you're making BLINKERS fashionable" not "blinders" as I had said before...someone pointed this out to me in e-mail (thanks)...and now the line makes even less sense to me! Rich +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From chigger88 at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 22:52:17 1998 From: chigger88 at xxx.com (Burt Reynolds) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 14:52:17 PST Subject: Sinister: Mullet haircuts Message-ID: <19981124225218.19115.qmail@hotmail.com> Thankyou Thankyou, Clint. I haven't laughed so hard since...uh, lunch. Anyway, I didn't think the mullet still existed (outside of WWF) until I saw the kings of sweaty cock rock, Cheap Trick. The show was AWESOME but even better were the mullets grotesquely rubbing and grinding their naughty bits together. Ever notice that people with mullets are the only people who know the Lambada/Forbidden dance? ~rachael ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goodforyoo at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 22:58:41 1998 From: goodforyoo at xxx.com (milla |razorkandy|) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:58:41 GMT Subject: Sinister: wednesday poem Message-ID: <19981124225842.27794.qmail@hotmail.com> ... new tradition? more than 1 poem a wek wldnt go 'stray? here is one of my favourites, a real lifechanger Snow The room was suddenly rich and the great bay-window was Spawning snow and pink roses against it, Soundlessly collateral and incompatible. World is suddener than we fancy it. World is crazier and more of it than we think, Incorrigibly plural. I peel and portion A tangerine and spit the pips and feel The drunkenness of things being various. And the fire flames with a bubbling sound for World Is more spiteful and gay than one supposes- On the tongue on the eyes on the ears on the palms of one's hands, There is more than glass between the snow and the huge roses. Louis MacNeice and one more, to follow the thread of things being better when one is alone (hear, hear!!) As Much As You Can by C P Cavafy Even if you can't shape your life the way you want, at least try as much as you can not to degrade it by too much contact with the world, by too much activity and talk. Do not degrade it by dragging it along, taking it around and exposing it so often to the daily silliness of social relations and parties, until it comes to seem a boring hanger-on. the 5% nation of choclatey-delicious........................... ................milla... ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From inaroom at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 23:09:52 1998 From: inaroom at xxx.com (Gareth Probert) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:09:52 PST Subject: Sinister: Calvin & Hobbes Message-ID: <19981124230952.17260.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello everybody! This is me mailing from a new location, as my parents cut off my internet connection - so now I have to use Hotmail with my step-fathers connection. Humph. I was chuffed to hear the question "Any Calvin & Hobbes fans?". I am very much a fan and, between us, my brother and I have all the books. Timeless classics, all of them. Also, I have a copy, on my computer, of the last ever Calvin and Hobbes cartoon and it is really really good. Sarah should find it particularly moving! So, if anyone wanted to have a copy of it, it is is JPG format, so please mail me! Well, better sign off now. Goodbye Gareth ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 23:15:18 1998 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 15:15:18 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Calvin & Hobbes In-Reply-To: <19981124230952.17260.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981124151518.007f8b50@mail.hooked.net> I used to be a Calvin and Hobbes fan until I accidentally dropped my Hobbes pez dispenser into the garbage disposal. I've been emotionally distraught since... So who's gotten new shoes in the last month? Enquiring minds wanna know... man named Pants <- shepherd of the sock puppets At 03:09 PM 11/24/98 PST, Gareth Probert wrote: > >Hello everybody! > >This is me mailing from a new location, as my parents cut off my >internet connection - so now I have to use Hotmail with my step-fathers >connection. Humph. > >I was chuffed to hear the question "Any Calvin & Hobbes fans?". I am >very much a fan and, between us, my brother and I have all the books. >Timeless classics, all of them. Also, I have a copy, on my computer, of >the last ever Calvin and Hobbes cartoon and it is really really good. >Sarah should find it particularly moving! > >So, if anyone wanted to have a copy of it, it is is JPG format, so >please mail me! > >Well, better sign off now. > >Goodbye >Gareth > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goodforyoo at xxx.com Tue Nov 24 23:22:47 1998 From: goodforyoo at xxx.com (milla |razorkandy|) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:22:47 GMT Subject: Sinister: blinkers are fashionable today Message-ID: <19981124232247.16460.qmail@hotmail.com> the you're making blinkers (or blinders in some other versions?) fashionable is about a state of mind the girl in the song has. She dresses right and reads the'right' books if only to have them in her hand at the *right* times and besides the fact that she only represents and does not contribute to some kind of zeitgeist she nonetheless has the power to approve/disprove/alter people conferred on her. She can sway and alter fashion or what is considered fashionable and desireable just by her presence in a room. She is also a little shallow, perhaps even unaware in some ways certainly of some human things. The blinkers (which she wears) is like the way certain kinds of people will just let their eyes glide, ignoring/not seeing those who do not immediately pique their interest, thus devaluing them further while appearing to some extent just naive and ignorant. It is not ignorance, it is far darker and more damaging yet it goes unnoticed, on the surface at least. Maybe other people will copy her cutting but disingenuous behaviour because she is cool? Her lack of caring (whatever and ever amen) contributes too. She is making her own blinkeredness fashionable just by being blinkered- EVEN if it is only a passing phase for her and she couldn't give a damn if she ignores people or not. double apathy. She sometimes goes to far, but this depends on who is defining how far is far. She is colluding in the press-line making a century of fakers, she is a passive victim coming out on top. any of this make sense to anyone or did I just have too much good coffee today?? goodnight and happy thanksgiving. cheers cheers x ................milla... because your eyes are slant and slow because your hair is sweet to touch my heart is high again, but oh- I doubt if this will get me much. Dorothy Parker. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From escossia at xxx.br Tue Nov 24 22:19:55 1998 From: escossia at xxx.br (Ivo A P Escossia) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:19:55 -0200 Subject: Sinister: Belle et Sebastien on an Brazilian Magazine Message-ID: <01be17f8$90526600$ec7defc8@default> There's a review of *The Boy with the Arab Strap* on a crap Brazilian music magazine this month. Smiths, Love, Fragile, Simon and Garfunkel, Velvet Underground, 80's.... All the same words are there They gave 8 out of 10. That's great..but they gave 9 to Oasis's The Masterplan. The world is not fair. Is there a place in hell for me and my friends ? ~~~^~^v^~^v^~^v^~^v^~v^~^v^~^v^~ Ivo A P Escossia NP: [Serge G and Jane B ] Je t'aime (moi non plus) Why ? Because it's cool, funny and the french language is SEXY !! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mike at xxx.uk Tue Nov 24 23:06:39 1998 From: mike at xxx.uk (Mike Newman) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:06:39 GMT Subject: Sinister: My err In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In either case, aren't they the things they put over the eyes of frisky racehorses to ensure they run forwards and aren't distracted by other horses/events around them? Consequently, an english saying exists, ie. "A blinkered view", meaning someone who has very set and unshakeable views on something. Mike -- Visit Traumatone/Great Northern Electrics on the web at http://www.geocities.com/~greatnorthern/ -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From xav at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 00:08:00 1998 From: xav at xxx.uk (Mark Crutch) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:08 +00 Subject: Sinister: Sagittarian lefty seeks women for mutual smut & teacakes Message-ID: <199811250008.AAA13077@irwell.zetnet.co.uk> Didn't we have this lefties discussion a couple of months ago? Or have i just got a severe case of deja vu? Either way, I've possibly said it before, but I'll probably certainly say it again (in about six months when the next influx of new listees arrive, following the re-release of TM):- for those serious about their sinistrality, get thee over to the newsgroups and check out alt.lefthanders Basically it's a place where like-minded gauchers get to discuss the things that annoy them about the right handed world (microwaves, pastry forks, scissors...), and generally have the same conversation about writing with their arms hoked or not every fortnight or so. Having said that, at the moment there's an ongoing thread about people's star signs (sound familiar) - and Sagittarians are waaay down on the list. I am both leftie and saggy (you know what I mean), what with it being my birthday today (or yesterday by the time this gets sent). I'm more than willing to believe that lefties are better at sex - but alas! it's so long since I last had some real physical smut going on that I think my virginity's starting to grow back. Anyway, I'm off to be apathetic about the passing of yet another year in which little of note has happened. Xav PS: In my CD player - my nephew's jam sandwiches -- xav at compsoc.man.ac.uk http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~xav "It hath whirred into life" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From vlass at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 00:45:50 1998 From: vlass at xxx.com (vlass at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:45:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: this time i'll do it right Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.19981125004550.0071f8e4@mail.interlog.com> bah, i hate my school computers. apparently i sent a huge blank message to the list this afternoon.. i'm sorry i'm sorry, i'm sorry. did i say i was sorry? blame the university of toronto. just don't blame me. there. enough apologising. so, i was going to reply to jessica's message, and now i'll go through with it (by the way - yay! i'm so glad you kissed him): >> speaking of a festive mood, would other torontonians like to have a sinister christmas meet? perhaps some sort of secret santa thing could be arranged. damn, it's cold in here. i've got to turn up the heat. i'm up for a sinister christmas meeeeeet. unfortunately i'm going to be up to my ears in exams, etc around then too so i can't be responsible for organizing anything. tell me the time, the place and i'll be there with bells on. jingle bells to fit in with the whole x-mas spirit. we have our christmas lights up already.. is it too early? nah.. weejay (who writes a fantastic zine called -blue glow-) wrote: >Various people were talking about their life dissapointingly >not being like a film... Well my life is a film of it's own and I quite >like it but it had better go somewhere soon or I'll start to get bored. look at my life turned into a film at my website: http://members.tripod.com/~meltingsnow/ geez, i'm horrible. i think every time i post i mention it... i'm just pining for exotic locales in my webstat thing, you know? it makes me feel so *special* when i see that someone from finland visited. i submitted a poem to charlotte but it paled in comparison to the winning one.. i promise to write more substantial posts later. kiss kiss, teri xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgj201 at xxx.edu Wed Nov 25 01:10:14 1998 From: jgj201 at xxx.edu (Jason G Juzwiak) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:10:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: All us Juzwiaks Message-ID: Now, let me say, right off the bat, that Juzwiak is not a common last name. So, let's flashback to July 1997, when I was at NYU Freshman Orientation, and I was at some desk, giving my name, and I got back a response: "Juzwiak, Juzwiak....Jason or Richard?" Which sent me into a tizzy. My friends and family all said I should search out this rogue Juzwiak, but I declined, since I was afraid contact with another Juzwiak would tear a hole in time, setting in motion a chain of events involving parallel universes and whatnot. And now I see that this other Juzwiak is on the Sinister list. I'm kinda scared. REALLY scared. And to whomever recommended that I go to the Other Music place across the street from Tower...hey, thanks. Though IYFS was $14...probably as much it would be at Tower....but they DID have LLPJ for $9.99!! So I acquired. Huzzah! Stop typing, Jay, you're missing Buffy. And that is just WRONG. Cheers Jay ---------------- "Son, you don't have bad luck. The reason that bad things happen to you is because you're a dumbass." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From z2d71t.044 at xxx.it Wed Nov 25 00:25:36 1998 From: z2d71t.044 at xxx.it (Massimiliano Bernardini) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 01:25:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Help the fox in the snow Message-ID: <365B4E80.3C7A261A@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi sinisters, this afternoon I was traslating fox in the snow with my brother, everything went right except about the meaning of three words "hang a right". Can someone help me to understand this? cheers, Passi. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 02:51:33 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 18:51:33 -0800 Subject: Sinister: A Joke Message-ID: <00b901be181e$84bcbe00$669dcdcf@brier> The Pope and the Archbishop of Rome are travelling on an airplane. The Pope, to pass time on the flight, is doing a crossword puzzle. He turns to the Archbishop: "Bishop, would you happen to know a four-letter word for 'woman', ending in U.N.T.?" "Why yes, your Holiness, that would be AUNT." "Erm, yes, of course," the Pope replies, "Have you got an eraser?" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sabin_o at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 03:09:38 1998 From: sabin_o at xxx.com (S. M. O.) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 03:09:38 GMT Subject: Sinister: Ahren Message-ID: <19981125030938.29723.qmail@hotmail.com> This Ahren wouldnt be Scandanavian in origin, would he? >From: John Stuart >To: sinister at majordomo.net >Subject: RE: Sinister: morality police >Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 08:58:57 -0800 >Reply-To: John Stuart > > >This list is getting very 'Jerry Springer'. Does this Ahren bloke have a >mullet haircut and mustache per-chance? > >> ---------- >> From: jessica[SMTP:tinystar at xxx.com] >> Reply To: jessica >> Sent: 24 November 1998 16:50 >> To: sinister at majordomo.net >> Subject: Sinister: morality police >> >> i've been getting generally good reaction to the ahren kiss, except for >> one extremely moral soul who threatened me with an ass-whupping and >> pointed out that ahren has a girlfriend. true, true, but i will explain: >> he broke up with her about a month ago because she's too clingy and never >> goes out and is an all-around wet blanket. well, she kept calling him and >> sobbing and showing up at his house begging him to take her back, that if >> he took her back that she would be different, blahblah............ >> >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 03:17:57 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:17:57 -0500 Subject: Sinister: No, I'm a frayed knot Message-ID: <365B76E5.7DD2C494@bigfoot.com> Dear sweet lord! Is there anyone on this list whose fingers aren't about to fall off?! I got five digests while I was at work, and I started getting worried...what could possibly have all the little sinisterines in such a flurry? Mick gets a cold sore? Stuart's arms of sex fall off? Isobel shaves her head? Rumors of the re-release of Tigermilk really being a *remix* of Tigermilk? But no, it was just some harmless smooching in the stock room. Which God knows I'm all for. Everyone's been in a bad mood lately. It happens to music fans this time of year. Nothing good's coming out. I'd be pulling out the sleeping pills too if it wasn't for the imminent release of the Modern Rock Song EP. David "Sister" Kitchen said: > what's going to be said about us and b&s in five > years? what will they name us? the cardie-wearing-biscuit-nibbling bedroom > phenomenon of the mid/late-nineties? > Okay, I think David's unwittingly lobbying to be on my list of list crushes. First he throws in that brilliant interpretation of "all the others do drugs" line, and then there was something else that slipped my mind, and then this. I could write chapters on this subject (they would be very bad chapters)...that is that Belle and Sebastian continually ignore all the ridiculous criticisms of them and just plain do what they want. I've gotten really tired of bands that start out great and then end up making albums for their critics, just because their critics are yelling "Bastard!" louder than the fans are yelling "Brilliant!". Belle and Sebastian are inpirational for so many reasons, but one of these reasons is that they let themselves be vulnerable, and they stay that way, even after taking a few hits. God bless 'em for it. So with that in mind, can I just say that the "what other bands do other people listen to" question makes me really uncomfortable? It does, because 9 times out of 10, it really means "Do you think you can top my list of obscure bands?" There are a ton of million-sellers on my "favorites" list...Fiona Apple's album "Tidal", Dave Matthews Band (yes, I'm serious...I'm not a huge fan, but I have a tremendous amount of respect for them), U2 and REM (still), and Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon". Among my list of "best singles of the '90's", I'd include "MmmBop", "The Sign", "Mo' Money, Mo' Problems" and "Walking on the Sun." I also adore Neutral Milk Hotel, Sleater-Kinney, Magnetic Fields and the Lucksmiths. But that's not news. I just thought I'd be the first to declare my interest and love for current, fluffy, commercial P!O!O! And if that happens to offend any punk rock Goddesses and/or Gods....good. Outed by myself, Reid Um, just so I don't have to end this on a negative note and feel guilty for bringing anyone even further down, I'd just like to mention that Lord Anthony is, still, after about a 100 listens, one of the best Belle and Sebastian songs around. It ain't nothing but Belle and Sebastian sounding like Belle and Sebastian, but it's got one of Stuart's greatest melodies ever. I can't wait 'till its proper release. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 02:42:40 1998 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 19:42:40 -0700 Subject: Sinister: blinkers are fashionable today Message-ID: Yeah, probably too much coffee but agreeable just the same. I have met some women that fit this description perfectly. In spite of the fact that they are kinda shallow, their calculated posture does affect certain responses in people of like mind. Oh, I really liked those poems in your other post too. Very objective in their recline. au revoir emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From IndiaRubb at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 03:56:37 1998 From: IndiaRubb at xxx.com (IndiaRubb at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:56:37 EST Subject: Sinister: Student life and eighties movies Message-ID: In a message dated 11/24/98 5:48:16 AM Eastern Standard Time, pcxas at unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk writes: << When I first arrived at Uni, I had an inconscious and subtle feeling that my life would become like theirs but I never found any ALPHA DELTA EPSILON sororities , never some popular but sensitive guy who finally discovered me as his perfect 'significant other' apart from being his best mate and sharing his love for music and basket...I never was very fond of basket,indeed. And after one year at the Science Faculty I realised it was not going to happen.Was it because of grunge, was it because we were not in New England but in Madrid, >> Could be. I've always pictured that the young adult's life in Spain would be like the movie "Belle Epoque"...meet an old guy, and suddenly all of his daughters are jumping your bones. err, someone else wrote: <> Uh oh, soon we're going to get a bunch of posts with ascii tit-flashes (can you do that?). Smut-content, indeed. gwt +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From brier at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 04:01:24 1998 From: brier at xxx.com (Brier Random) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 20:01:24 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Is it THAT Ahren???? (smut content: 4.7) Message-ID: <00d601be1828$4622d940$669dcdcf@brier> If this "Ahren" is the same Ahren who once worked at The Gap on High Road, then read on::: One time when I worked there with him, we were folding flannels on the ladies' sale rack when he looked me straight in the eye, licked his lips, grabbed my ass with one hand while the other one gestured wildly in the air to emphasize his declaration that he wanted to "tickle my pickle" and was only going out with his girlfriend (this was 1995) because she "drives a convertible VW Rabbit", and that he hankered for boys like me, and that, like the flannels we were folding, he'd always wanted to "try one on for size." I rebuffed him in no uncertain terms, and he stormed off in a huff to belts & accessories, so I had to do the entire plaid section by myself. Just a word of warning. AND:::: do you think B&S put four songs on all their singles on purpose, as a kind of self-defeating gesture or a "sod the charts" attitude? So they can actually AVOID being chart-toppers? Or is it so they can avoid the possibility of seeing an elligible single not chart so well? Naah, it's probably because they come up with so many sheer masterpieces that they have to stuff their singles or else they'd be releasing one every month. Not a bad idea, either, that. C'mon, B&S. How about a single with one B-side every month? Worked for the Smiths. And you're better. AND:::: People were talking about the Housemartins, and how B&S MUST be fans. It seems so. Wasn't the Housemartins' "Now That's What I Call Quite Good" played a full two times in Toronto as the faithful in-limbo masses wondered whether there would be a show at all? Then "Five Get Over Excited" cuts ominously and wee Chris delivers the bad news. I'm glad I wasn't there; I could never hear that album again without having a terrible sense of defeatist forbodeing and a case of the shakes. AND:::: I had my TBWTAS CD stolen months ago, so I bought another, SO::: does anyone in the US need the case w/booklet? I've now two and don't want to throw the extra away. Only take me up on this if you are really missing your original & have real need for it. How does one get nominated for the Monday poem shenannigans? What is the criteria for the poem? In my CD player: Charles Bukowski, "King of Poets" (home recording, 1970) In my tape player: Buckley V. Valeo (my band) In my heart: Y'all -The Brier +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 04:09:46 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:09:46 EST Subject: Sinister: Any Calvin & Hobbes fans? Message-ID: <4c65a706.365b830a@aol.com> In a message dated 11/24/98 10:42:31 AM, ar981611 at student.paisley.ac.uk wrote: <> I'm positive the title reads "i can see myself alone forever" - the problem being that i've not really bothered to listen to this song since '95. i had cpoied this C90 of Field Mice demos ('87 to '90?) that i got from a guy who got it from Richard of Waaah!/Bring on Bull, but the basis is just that i cpoied this tape for some kids in the indiepop list, and they liked that song so much that htey probably heard it more than I did. They are also friends or were friends with Andy Dean, to further the irony. Incidentally I have always loved Calvin & Hobbes, Bill Watterson's decision to end the cartoon really distressed me. In my first year of university my neighbor made some C&H tshirts for our dormitory neighbors and gave them as an Xmas gift, i still have that shirt (we're talking 10 years now - gasp) - it's just ace. sigh, yeah Calvin & Hobbes was probably my favorite cartoon, other than Bloom County. Those were just some ace cartoons. xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From OLDSCHREC at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 03:52:51 1998 From: OLDSCHREC at xxx.com (OLDSCHREC at xxx.com) Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 22:52:51 EST Subject: Sinister: Mullet heads/Tigermilk/Jessica fiasco/B&S anyone? Message-ID: <2f99b6b0.365b7f13@aol.com> Yes, Bowie and Suzi Quatro would have been original mullet head haircut wearers but neither had the token moustache. My friend Drew, crazy bastard, wants a copy of the Tigermilk lp. Someone said they were selling one for $250 a bit back and he is interested. Jessica, you go for it girl. Never let an opportunity at love to stand in your way. Be it other relationships etc.... Humans aren't meant to be attached to just one mate or we wouldn't ever had come with divorces and heart-break-up country songs (mullet head reference again?) Any new newz on B&S to report. Doesn't it seem like the latest single due to be released date feels like it has taken an eternity? Pete +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Pulpbot at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 05:32:53 1998 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:32:53 EST Subject: Sinister: mulling it over Message-ID: <3fe0bbbb.365b9685@aol.com> in Philly we called the mullet a "guido," and it meant less that you listened to country music and more that yer doorbell would chime "Eye of the Tiger" when rung and that you wanted to date a girl named Adrian, but it was sort of a faggy name, and you think John Turturro is the real hero of all of Spike Lee's flicks. To other matters: > And yet, when you dare to assert that something reveals bad taste, you get a whole host of people calling you a snob and suddenly you don't feel so liberal anymore. What is "taste" exactly? Is good taste based on technique and an obvious display of craft. Which doesn't give a wide berth to your more compulsive or idiot savant types. And it's seems that there are plenty of people dying to be labeled as in bad taste-and they might have all the craft in the world but have chosen to turn their back on it. There are so many "tastes" in the world now, with so many theories and whims and fans gunning behind each of them that never again will history be in complete agreement over what is good or bad. Belle and Sebastian seem to be in sort of good taste, in that they're mild of manner and well-behaved, but consider how someone a bit more fuddy would consider "Seeing Other People" or their use of strings as ham-fisted and unsophisticated. Are they snobs? And "high" and "low" culture is so impossible to fret over, are you talking about the product produced or who produced it? The person behind the product tends to mean as much as, if not more, than what is actually produced these days. Because you know when Versace introduced his line of pre-stained panties that all notions went straight to mindfuck. Again it seems to go back to how much thought went into something beforehand. As I fretted once in front of a boyfriend over the Spice Girls, i.e. excellent pop but at what cost feminism?, he said: "If it makes your tits wobble then it's good." Oh, and that's squarely in the realm of bad taste, natch. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From carrick44 at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 05:56:50 1998 From: carrick44 at xxx.com (Carrick C Blair) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 00:56:50 EST Subject: Sinister: down in the caff References: <4c65a706.365b830a@aol.com> Message-ID: <19981125.001054.4591.4.carrick44@juno.com> On Tue, 24 Nov 1998 23:09:46 EST GaoBest at aol.com writes: >I'm positive the title reads "i can see myself alone forever" - Alright, seeing that the Duke, Perfection as a Hipster, T!I!M! are all but a distant memory, I'll pipe up and show off a bit of my POP knowledge to say....That field mice song is from the single on Caff records. It was horribly limited and now trades hands from upwards of $60. I even heard the masters were lost, so pine away. It is a beautiful song. I heard it for the first time in, believe it or not, a council estate near, of all the places, Elephant & Castle. It somehow fit very well. I kissed someone I didn't love once (alright, a few times) and it hurts to even think about it now. That's all I have to say. Love should come first. I said some more. Sorry Back to the subject at hand, Slow Graffiti. Seeing as its the most recent official release, I think I should talk about it. One thing I noticed is how crystal clear the vocals are. Much more up front than ever before. At least at the quiet part in the beginning. You feel as if Stuart is right there in the room with you. A nice thought. Besides our kids and the pastels, the rest of soundtrack is pretty much pish. Especially the Chemical Brothers songs. Instead of the usual headache, I now find myself bored to death by them. Its gone from bad to worse. The T-rex song goes on too long as well. Maybe its just the waiting in eager anticipation for Slow Graffiti. love Carrick ___ ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Wed Nov 25 07:06:44 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 02:06:44 -0500 Subject: Sinister: bride of frankensmut Message-ID: <365BAC84.2AC1@earthlink.net> so there i was, in the backroom of old navy, taking ahren from behind, and he was moaning and screaming something about zuchini, when the boss crashed through the door. "just what the fuck are you two doing?" she yelled. "lady, you just answered your own question." i says. i zipped up and left ahren there in an exhausted heap. so he calls me last night. he's crying. "i've got to have you" he's saying. and i'm just mumbling okays and whatevers wishing he'd hang up. but he's called three times since! the boy is absolutely infatuated with me. so i sent him a male strip-o-gram telling him it was just a one lunch break kinda thing and he's reading too much into it. i figured i could get my message across and give him a new object of affection at the same time. hey, everyone....stop sending so many damn messages. if you're gonna send a lot, at least make me laugh. -brad +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 08:03:52 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 03:03:52 EST Subject: Sinister: Calvin & Hobbes Message-ID: <661ef600.365bb9e8@aol.com> In a message dated 11/24/98 03:13:50 PM, inaroom at hotmail.com wrote: <> Speaking of which, i probably have a copy of that last cartoon, although i'm sure it's been reproduced in books anyways. so that's moot for me. i also have or had an article in which Bill Watterson explained his (what i thought were totally prima-donna) reasons for his decision to cancel Calvin & Hobbes (basically involving the decision to decrease space/sizing for comics), so if there are C&H fans out there, then email me privately and i'll take the initiative to look for that article (i think it's in my lower drawer of one of my dressers, where i have other articles that i've saved up), and i can photocopy it at work and snail it. mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 08:07:07 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 03:07:07 EST Subject: Sinister: black session question Message-ID: <4be0f304.365bbaab@aol.com> hey kids what's the cover that B&S do for their French Radio Black Session from a couple of months ago? just wondering... mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 09:18:40 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:18:40 -0000 Subject: Sinister: P. Parrot's epic journey Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2234A1A0@server1.HITEntertainment.com> Now that the poetry parrot has recovered sufficiently to fly once more, I thought I'd send her across the ocean to Bayonne, NJ (I think) where she will gracefully alight on the shoulder of Ms Anastasia Signoretta (still the listee with the funkiest name) and hopefully not poo everywhere. Over to you, Stasia... It's far too early to think of anything else witty to say. So zero wit, folks. Probably no smut either. I did, however, wake up this morning (da der da da da) to find that, during the night, I'd taken a painting off my wall and leant it carefully against the radiator. I remeber doing it, but I haven't a clue what I was thinking of. Any suggestions? I also dreamt I was Cartman's Mom. Which makes me a dirty slut, I believe. Sounds about right. Hearing Milla and Funkyseb's mournsome rendition of Slow Graffiti on Sunday afternoon has re-whetted my enthusiasm for this mightiest of bands. You really should have been there. No, honestly... Finally saw the Omen last night. Ugh. I particularly felt sick at the bit where yer man develops the photographs and the first nanny has a spectral noose around her neck. Yummy. And that Billie Whitelaw's one scary laydee... Nuff. I'm sleepy *yawn*... Mark xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From z2d71t.044 at xxx.it Wed Nov 25 09:46:15 1998 From: z2d71t.044 at xxx.it (Massimiliano Bernardini) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:46:15 +0100 Subject: Sinister: the fox is saved! Message-ID: <365BD1E7.ECFE61@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Thank you, all listees, for your help! I supposed that was the meaning but I wanted to be sure, so I consulted the best dictionary I know ;-) cheers, Passi. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 10:13:02 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:13:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Tinystar Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C82@COR-EXG1> After three digests of whether Jessica was right or wrong to dampen Ahrens tonsils I am suitably disappointed. I cannot believe you didn't shag him !! You get a five star opportunity to get systematic with him, and what ? I thought we were a legion of smutmeisters ? And he can't even spell Aaron. Aydreean. PS. Thankyou Mr Miller - for your recognition of my rocktastic barefaced defiance of Ms Honey. Unfortunately it is with regret I have to admit that it was purely accidental. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 10:38:09 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:38:09 -0000 Subject: Sinister: black session question Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC8A@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> They did a cover of France Gall/Serge Gainsbourg, Poupee de cire, poupee de son > ---------- > From: GaoBest at xxx.com] > Reply To: GaoBest at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 1998 08:07 > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Sinister: black session question > > > hey kids > > what's the cover that B&S do for their French Radio Black Session from a > couple of months ago? just wondering... > > mike > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Nov 25 10:58:01 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:58:01 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Smell of Tummy Granite Message-ID: <01be1862$78945040$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Brad wrote: hey, everyone....stop sending so many damn messages. if you're gonna send a lot, at least make me laugh. Well, that saved me the trouble of trying to find a "nice" way to say the same thing without appearing to tell people what to do, like a mean fucker. The list appears to be doing the dying fly at the moment, lots of legs waving in the air, but not much substance. My mum wouldn't let me watch Tiswas, except when Tarzan was on. Fat lot of good it did her, I must say. Anyway, I digress. I put the list malaise down to the novelty factor of the Sha-La-La list. I feel like an East German refugee clambering over the fence into the American Embassy compound, only to find it a chaotic quagmire. I'd try and reassure people, but it would be like Nicolae Ceaucescu shushing the multitude from his palace balcony. All I can suggest is to hang on in there baby. I hope the rearguard troops uphold the regiment's name, and the citizens who have defecated to the Sha-La-La Republic remember to come back from time to time. We miss you. remember you're quite welcome to talk about things other than buses on this list, should you get the urge. For instance, you can talk about council house dwellers. I was deeply moved my the far-fetched notion that there is warmth and humanity in council houses, I always thought it was the exclusive right of Margot and Jerry from "The Good Life". On Monday I went to the pictures and it was a feelgood film about council house scum called "My Name is Joey" and it was good and it was in Glasgow and there's a football pitch in it like the one in "Gregory's Girl", an orange one. Yestarday I went to the pictures and it was a feelgood film from Japan called "Hana-Bi" and it was very good, most unusual. Today I'm not going to the pictures. I have noticed that my crystal ball has been on good form lately. Everyone loves the film "Happiness". Have you seen it, Brad? I think you'd like it, it contains some good ideas for what to do with leftover bodily fluids. Well, one good idea. Also, the once mighty Juventus football team have chickened out of playing Turkish superstars Galatassary. I think they should just forfeit the points. Bob Holness seems to have come up with the goods, I knew he wouldn't let me down! Unfortunately I didn't hear "Anything Goes" and I found my address book anyway, but it's nice to know it was on. I'm not in Chile though, my long-lost friend is. Or was. I love Bob Holness. It's a shame his reputation is based almost entirely on the saxophone solo from Gerry Rafferty's "Baker Street". Excellent poem, Stout Robin. I heard Mercury Rev on the radio, it was very nice and festive, just right for this time of year. Typically, it's not out here yet, so I'm planning to purchase a 3 Cd Tito Puente compilation. It's written in the stars. Afro-Cuban jazz is the tenth type of music I'm hoping to like. David Moore wrote: Whilst in this totally BS free ( :) ) mode, the college bookshop is advertising a new biography of Keith Moon, and a picture of Keith's mum recently appeared in a local scurrilous rag for some reason. I lust after that Keith Moon biog, I bet there's a picture of his mum, Mrs Moon the Loon, in it, bouncing her bonny wee laddie on her lap. The Ox never really realised that Moon the Loon was gone until he saw Mrs Moon the Loon senior crying at the funeral. I realise that is slightly off-topic, but I'm hoping Keith Watson will take the bait and we can continue our attemopt to transcribe the interview sections of "30 Years of Maximum R&B" in their entirety on the list. I love The WHO. I'd better go now. Keep the faith, Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 11:06:08 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:06:08 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Is it THAT Ahren???? (smut content: 4.7) References: <00d601be1828$4622d940$669dcdcf@brier> Message-ID: <365BE4A0.88D8C7A9@jeepster.co.uk> Brier Random wrote: > > How does one get nominated for the Monday poem shenannigans? What is the > criteria for the poem? it appears that people nominate whoever they fancy or admire, but maybe that's just me being sad that i don't get nominated either? or, most likely, people don't nominate me because they know i use my delete key too liberally and may delete the nomination? who knows, it's a mystery to me. david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From agmuwv.044 at xxx.it Wed Nov 25 11:48:26 1998 From: agmuwv.044 at xxx.it (Marco Braca) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:48:26 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Charles Message-ID: <365BEE8A.4A3C6B72@tellnet.pesaro.ps.it> Hi all, i adore Charles Bukowski. Do you ever read Pulp??? What a magnificent book. - depressed , too many fat made Nick Belane heavy , no money in the bank , to be getting on in marriage..............-. - the search for red sparrow.......-. Pulp a minimalist story full of brain-wave . I recommend you this writer that achieve distinction. In my cd player : velvet underground " velvet underground (banana) + Nico". Marco#7. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From euan.leitch at xxx.net Wed Nov 25 12:06:10 1998 From: euan.leitch at xxx.net (Euan Leitch) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:06:10 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Decorating. Message-ID: <000101be186b$fe4d5200$e03ca8c2@default> B&S have made it into that heady style bible-Wallpaper, which none of you can confess to read. I'm tied down and forced to look at the pictures of beautiful buildings, food, design, and people. B&S get in on the back of AB, Barcelona's List/TimeOut. Any way, it means that along with the other beautiful things is our own beautiful Isobel, and bit of Mick I think. E. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Wed Nov 25 10:27:46 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:27:46 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: She and me In-Reply-To: Message-ID: How about "she annoys me"??? There, I've gone and solved your lifelong plague with one brief swooping shot. I hope the disappointment isn't too great. Of course this sentence could be grammatical incorrect. What would I know ? (just because I am doing my finals this year in English ...) Oh one more thing, people's spelling on this list is becoming amusing bad. I know I'm guilty of this myself especially when the beardy guy with the squeaky voice comes into Dedalus (what we rather pretentiously call the computer building) and says "Everybody out now. Run for your lives. There has been yet another technical hitch. OUT . RRRRRRRaahhhhhhhhhhh " Cut to exposed fangs and lecherous hairy hands. bye dee (okay so I made up the bit about the fangs, huh ) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Wed Nov 25 08:11:17 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:11:17 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bye bye. Message-ID: <002566C7.002CC6A9.00@notes.ericsson.se> Amazing. Over the last three days this list has totally lost it. It seems to have been hijacked by a few people intent on sending as many 'in jokey' dull as shit posts as they can possibly fit into their day. Anyone I mail privately I'll keep in touch. unsubcribe sinister +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Wed Nov 25 10:52:54 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:52:54 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: My err In-Reply-To: Message-ID: No ! It's simple really. It's just a very pretty way of saying that the person in question is looking at the ground and not around , not daring to look around and cos there are so many people who are actually quite lonely, that this metaphorical blinkering is actually fashionable, popular, ie, rendered widespread by the populace. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From denisep at xxx.ie Wed Nov 25 10:43:20 1998 From: denisep at xxx.ie (Denise Power) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:43:20 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: morality police In-Reply-To: <00d401be17ca$aa99ee80$5d1e05d1@tinystar> Message-ID: It's funny how you can justify almost anything these days. Btw, who is Ahren ? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 11:40:29 1998 From: Charlotte.Hall at xxx.uk (Charlotte Hall) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:40:29 +0000 Subject: Sinister: The Sinister Suite - winner of most comic poem Message-ID: <0012E292.CE21213@smlawpub.co.uk> This is a suite of poems really. I've already had a complaint about the winning poem not having enough B&S content. This should satisfy any cravings of that nature. Watch out for the poems appearing on http://www.majordomo.net/sinister shortly. They are all wonderful. Charlotte My Dog on Wheels is Orange It's really quite a sight. While other's think he's so strange I think he looks just right. ##### With arms of sex and trousers of silver He rushes on his way His songs set everyone's hearts aquiver; I wonder if he's gay? ##### Mary Jo played Tug-o-war In Terry pants of purple She was the undisputed champ so powerful was her pull. ##### Boy on a bike, what are you like? You come here every month. You're not the third or second in my heart. In my world you're the oneth. JOHN JOHNSTON +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 13:41:12 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:41:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: She and me grammar Message-ID: >Incidentally I just thought of this: "Stuart Murdoch gives both of us (she >and me) severe heart palpitations" - WOAH is this it... hrm. well, does this >work? Spookily similar to something I posted a couple of weeks ago: >>Someone was asking why yu couldn't use 'she and me' in a sentence. >>I think it's because the two words are different declensions (is that the >>word?). So you can say 'she and I' (as in 'she and I are both wearing >>cardigans') or 'her and me' (as in 'Stuart Murdoch gives both her and me >>palpitations'). Errr... dull post this, isn't it. An easy way to work it out is to leave out one of the people you're mentioning. You can't say something like "Stuart Murdoch gives she and me palpitations" because if you leave out the 'me' you get "Stuart Murdoch gives she palpitations" which is wrong. It should be 'her' and not 'she'. That's why I don't think you can have "she and me" in a sentence - it's grammatically incorrect because the two words are incompatible being in different declensions (if that's the right word). I think it might be to do with one being passive and the other active, but I'm not sure. Incidentally, you can use the same trick to work out whether you should be saying "you and I" or "you and me". But for the same reason you can only say "he and I" or "him and me". You can't say "he and me". Pedantic or what? Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 13:38:10 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:38:10 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Meaty pieces Message-ID: Woo! I won the poetry competition! I never win anything! I'll put the prize on my shelf next to the tin of sausages I won in the Cub Scouts Christmas Raffle in 1988. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 14:43:16 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:43:16 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: a toggle Message-ID: hi. i dont think i have anything to say on my own account today (so why is she f***ing bothering then?) but i can refer to other people's lovely posts. is the line about making blinkers fashionable about someone who looks like a horse? (sh)it-girl tamara beckwith perchance? no, seriously, i think it might be referring to the sort of people (casuals in fact i suppose) who think it's cool to be narrow-minded and closed off in their own little 'fake' world, hence they're blinkered. duffle coats! oh, i love them. i used to make my mum give me marmalade sandwiches in my lunchbox even though they went soggy and weren't very nice anyway, because i thought i might morph into paddington. er, what else. oh yes, i think this list has great taste - if that's not a loaded term now - generally. i mean, calvin and hobbes, louis macniece AND dorothy parker all just cropped up and i could go on for ever about all 3 of them but other people do it better. read 'prayer before birth' by macniece though - it's really stunning. oh, and i like 'taste of honey' too! i acted in a bit of it at school and got to regale evryone with my apalling manchester (?) accent. love and toggles, archel xxx "my celery days are over you put me straight on the finer points of asparagus" ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nobody can be uncheered with a balloon." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 14:53:07 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:53:07 PST Subject: Sinister: HAPPY BIRTHDAY Message-ID: <19981125145307.19509.qmail@hotmail.com> HAPPY BIRTHDAY QUEEN BEE JANINE! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 14:58:15 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:58:15 PST Subject: Sinister: Sagittarian lefty seeks women for mutual smut & teacakes Message-ID: <19981125145815.16509.qmail@hotmail.com> WOT? how could saggitarians be way down on the list? i am an aquarius leftie girl and might i say my favorite signs (other than aquarius of course) are gemini, libra, and saggitarius. virgos are okay too, most of the time.. saggitarians have great gifts to offer! but they are usually withdrawn and introverted. yes? hmm, but queen bee janine is not very withdrawn... okay maybe i don't know that much about astrology either. but janine, wouldn't you say that jesse chen and erik laroi are both very withdrawn and internal? i could name a few other saggs... -lorraine > >Having said that, at the moment there's an ongoing thread about people's >star signs (sound familiar) - and Sagittarians are waaay down on the list. >I am both leftie and saggy (you know what I mean), what with it being my >birthday today (or yesterday by the time this gets sent). > ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From grabutcho at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 15:32:53 1998 From: grabutcho at xxx.com (Julien Boeldieu) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 07:32:53 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: a question in french and the trouble with pop-music and Belle & Sebastian on stage Message-ID: <19981125153253.25837.rocketmail@send103.yahoomail.com> Hi everyone ! 1. A question in french Une question aux listies parisiens : qui va au concert de Nada Surf ce jeudi (demain) � la Locomotive ? 2. The trouble with pop music and Belle & Sebastian on stage Yesterday I saw the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion. That was... an explosion (OK, it was easy, I'm sorry) ! I still can't believe what I saw and heard on stage. They're certainly the best performers I've ever seen. I think sometimes the trouble with pop-music is that it is not a good music to be played and to listen to live. I went to so many concert where I was just listening to a band playing songs, and that's all ! I don't mean that that kind of concert is boring, not at all. It's often a pleasant moment to spend. The miracle with Belle & Sebastian is that they can reproduce on stage the same fragility and sensitivity they give on their records, which was not obvious and is always magical actually. But that is not enough to me. In such concerts you can easily close your eyes and let you take by the music, making abstraction of the band who is playing... and the trouble is here. I don't want to make silly comparisons, because Belle & Sebastian and the Jon Spencer Blues Explosion have nothing in common. But the fact is that I always had a feeling of frustration, not while (because you are charmed and delighted) but after seeing Belle & Sebastian live (and that happened 4 times). Of course, it is not necessary to be dressed like Elvis, to play the guitar on your knee, to roll on the floor and to jump from your amp screaming things like "blues is number one but I play rock'n'roll" to give great concerts. The difference is that the three musicians of the Blues Explosion are all quite sexy and glamour, and that they give anything they have on stage. Not only their songs, but themselves as well. The show was blazing. They seemed burnt and *haunted* by their music. They were not only playing, but they were *living* their music and they gave to it more soul than it has on their records. And that is what I want to hear and to see when I'm going to a concert, and that's not what I saw with Belle & Sebastian. In the early 70's, Bowie showed that you could play pop music and give blazing concerts. But I don't blame anyone. I love to see Belle & Sebastian on stage actually - and the fact is that in spite of anything I can say it is very addictive. I think finally that Belle & Sebastian have nothing more to give than their songs, and that's just fine as long as they touch me. And I don't know why I care actually. 12 homeless died in one week in France because of the cold and the coldness of this society which is not able to give a home to everyone. That makes me very angry. I'm sorry, I'm in my Hate and War mood today. I have love only for all of you. Love, Julien _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From iles at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 15:57:15 1998 From: iles at xxx.uk (Mark Iles) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:57:15 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Mullets, duffel coats and others... In-Reply-To: <199811242117.VAA16807@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: >But seriously, thanks to whoever did this site, for addressing one of the >biggest fashion mysteries I have ever known, namely, why do people wear >these stupid haircuts? I, myself, had a friend who was studying to be an >architect! And he had a mullet! Now would you let this man design your >house? He's probably do mullet bushes or something. More likely the roof to your house would be short at the front and long at the back. We all know that we shouldn't be judging people on their haircuts/coats/whatever, but it's pretty hard not to. My personal bete noir of the moment are those stupid kappa tracksuit things. I'm sure you couldn't do any form of exercise in them even if you wanted to, because they're afr too baggy. Then again, I've never seen anyone over the age of fifteen wearing one, so maybe it can be excused as a youthful folly. A bit like the non-matching pink and green day-glo socks I firmly believed were the height of fashion when I was about nine. Are duffel coats cool then? I kind of like the idea of them, but I'd feel really silly wearing one. They seem firmly rooted in childhood and I always associate them with Paddington Bear. Maybe if I wore them with dummy mittens (the ones which are joined by elastic running through the arms of your coat) and red wellingtons it would look like some kind of ironic fashion statement a bit like the people who wear the dodgy NHS-style glasses I used to hate wearing when I was little. I think I'd end up looking even more silly with a duffel coat, though... maybe girls would look good in them in a twee kind of way. Anyway, I digress... Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ Mark Iles, Tel: +44 (0113) 2065042 Imperial Cancer Research Fund, Fax: +44 (0113) 2340183 Genetic Epidemiology Laboratory, Ashley Wing, Email: iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk St James's University Hospital, Beckett Street, Leeds, LS9 7TF U.K. ____________________________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 15:57:52 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:57:52 EST Subject: Sinister: Re: She and me grammar Message-ID: <95386d6d.365c2900@aol.com> In a message dated 11/25/98 6:37:13 AM, iles at boreas.leeds.icnet.uk wrote: <> It's taken me 4 years to think about this more and more - I still can't come to a conclusion. However, when Amelia Fletcher "posed" that challenge of using "she and me" in a grammatically-correct sentence, she did say that there was a solution, I'm pretty sure she did. Alas, I haven't seen Heavenly or any other Heavenly off-shoot since that day (Oct 7 '94) so I've no way of asking Amelia about this, and she's probably even forgotten about that day (it was painful for her 'cause she had canker sores so she probably tried to forget about it all) xox mike ps - happy thanksgiving! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bluvelour at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:00:00 1998 From: Bluvelour at xxx.com (Bluvelour at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:00:00 EST Subject: Sinister: yumm... grammar Message-ID: <649dc3e.365c2980@aol.com> okay, so because i have lots of stuff to do and i don't want to do it, i'm going to share the beauty of who and whom with everyone (everyone, that is, who doesn't balk at the subject of the e-mail). so this is how one does it: if, in a sentence, you can put in "him" in the place you mean to put in "who" or "whom", put in "whom". here's an example: she wondered ____ the cardigan belonged to. so switch the sentence around so the blank space is nearer to what it's modifying: the cardigan belonged to ____. you can fill in "him" where that blank spot is, so you can therefore use "whom". got it? it also helps to remember that "whom" always follows a prepositional phrase. yeah, yeah, yeah. off i go ...the grammar police... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tjonrr at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:06:13 1998 From: Tjonrr at xxx.com (Tjonrr at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:06:13 EST Subject: Sinister: more blinkers Message-ID: <30174d8b.365c2af5@aol.com> the bit about blinkers in a century of fakers should be taken in context with the rest of the verse. they are wearing blinkers because they dont have time for anyone else. this is why the people in the line before are lonely, because they wont spend any time with them and the next couple of lines is their excuses of why they are blowing the lonely people off and ignoring them. thats what i thought anyway, sorry if it doesnt make any sense im not very good with words and i know most of the rest of people who offered opinions were very eloquent. also sorry if i have got the details of the song wrong but i was doing it from memory and thinking about it in the bath. from tjohn "all my soul records spin on my hifi make me feel like God is within me but hes not, its a lie, i am empty..." hefner- the science fiction +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:09:23 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:09:23 EST Subject: Sinister: black session question Message-ID: In a message dated 11/25/98 3:34:56 AM, C.Wyplosz at lse.ac.uk wrote: <> Does anyone know which album this is from, i have a few France Gall LPs but I can't recall if this song is on it. If it's on her compilatio albums then i probably definitely have it - i just now want to hear that original version! incidentally when i was in New Orlenas, i had the song "The Night" (which is Pulp's cover from _their_ 1992 black session) stuck in my head most of the time. it was frustrating 'cause i didn't have my '92 black session tape with me when i was there, so i'd be walking around thinking of "The night" and how much i love that song. sigh. xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From frumpi at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:14:29 1998 From: frumpi at xxx.com (annastasia saffrone) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:14:29 PST Subject: Sinister: sinister: what about these cuts? Message-ID: <19981125161429.24391.qmail@hotmail.com> i missed on most of the "mullet" chat and am too lazy to go back and find it. i'm just curious, can someone describe what this cut looks like and who has one??? ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:12:13 1998 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:12:13 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Mullet heads/Tigermilk/Jessica fiasco/B&S anyone? In-Reply-To: <2f99b6b0.365b7f13@aol.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981125081213.0094fc50@mail.hooked.net> I'd even love to just get a copy of the tape/CD whatever. Especially since I've never heard it ever... Anyone have suggestions on the best way to do this? I'll pay for all expenses... or should I get reading a FAQ somewhere that has explicit directions for this? blinded by the lack of snow, chris At 10:52 PM 11/24/98 EST, you wrote: >My friend Drew, crazy bastard, wants a copy of the Tigermilk lp. Someone said >they were selling one for $250 a bit back and he is interested. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From John.Stuart at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:27:23 1998 From: John.Stuart at xxx.com (John Stuart) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 08:27:23 -0800 Subject: Sinister: RE: what about these cuts? Message-ID: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630471758@EDINBURGH> > annastasia saffrone wrote: >i missed on most of the "mullet" chat and am too lazy to go back and >find it. i'm just curious, can someone describe what this cut looks > >ike and who has one??? > A mullet cut is short on top and sides and long at the back. Check out the Beastie Boys song 'Mullet Head'. They had an artice about the style (of haircut) in Grand Royale magazine a year or so back. It featured loads of pictures of victims of the mullet. Cheers, Nhoj +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:35:01 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:35:01 EST Subject: Sinister: Stats Poll Masochism Message-ID: <2185a478.365c31b5@aol.com> Hey kids Here's a poll I wnat to conduct, but it is IMPERATIVE you respond to me directly, and NOT to the list - and I promise to report the results to Sinister as soon as possible. Deadline for Poll Response: Friday, December 4, 1998 (regardless of your time zone!) - anytime before the end of that day. Simple 'nuf. Respond to: GaoBest at aol.com and PLEASE use the words "poll" somewhere in yoru answer so that I'll know... I do delete a lot of mail that looks like it may be spam-related, even if it does mean that I'll miss out on some important messages from time to time. Note: if you reply to the list and not to me directly, then your poll response will go unnoted. I need to be fair about this because there have been a lot of posts about high-list-traffic, so I'd like to avoid contributing too much to that traffic. I'm not crazy about traffic jams either. Poll: 1. If you own an official non-bootleg version of Tigermilk album (I assume it's a vinyl-only release, but if it's on CD as well then please specify), then how much did you pay for it? Did you buy it within 3 months of its release (ie, probably at a fair-market price), or did you buy it much later (ie, probably at a higher premium price)? 3. If you do not own an official Tigermilk but would pay for it, how much would you pay? Seriously - how much? Don't worry, it's not like anyone is going to hold you to it. But I'd appreciate as close an answer as possible. This is my attempts of using my statistical skills developed in classes in 1991 and 1993, and don't worry, I don't plan to use the information to broker sales or transactions for Tigermilk. I am just curious to know what people on this list would pay for Tigermilk if they really wanted it. I'm also curious to know if people on this list would even do a poll as inane as this one is :-) Results to be posted would include the median, average, and range for money spent, money fantasizing to be spent, and timing. If I can think of other stats then I'll post them as well. If someone already did a poll like this last month then please let me know - I just joined the list about 2 weeks ago after spending 8 months speculating about whether or not to join :-) thanks again. xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casio at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:49:27 1998 From: casio at xxx.com (Tony Zito) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:49:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: RE: what about these cuts? In-Reply-To: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630471758@EDINBURGH> Message-ID: <199811251647.LAA01669@bottlerocket.com> In my neck of the woods (which is not to say that my neck resembles the woods, no not at all my pretties), we call this a "shlong", as in "SH(ort on top,) LONG (in the back)". I think an early issue of Rollerderby had a map of North America which showed the various names for this phenomenon by region. t. At 11:27 AM 11/25/98 , John Stuart wrote: > > >> annastasia saffrone wrote: >>i missed on most of the "mullet" chat and am too lazy to go back and >>find it. i'm just curious, can someone describe what this cut looks >> >ike and who has one??? >> >A mullet cut is short on top and sides and long at the back. Check out the >Beastie Boys song 'Mullet Head'. They had an artice about the style (of >haircut) in Grand Royale magazine a year or so back. It featured loads of >pictures of victims of the mullet. > >Cheers, > >Nhoj > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Wed Nov 25 16:58:37 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 10:58:37 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: mullet watch In-Reply-To: <93CA1ADD24AED111B6CF00A0C9067630471758@EDINBURGH> Message-ID: unfortunately, both Frida and Agnetha from ABBA sport mullets on the back of ABBA Gold. :( http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Carmen at xxx.us Wed Nov 25 16:22:18 1998 From: Carmen at xxx.us (Carmen) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:22:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: bye for now Message-ID: <199811251122180490.041FBECB@204.96.36.40> I'll be gone for a month so I'm unsubscribing for a month. Thank you for all of the excitement. I will be back with many stories to tell Happy Thanksgiving to all of those who believe in the Great Turkey. I hope he gives presents to all the nice boys and girls. ...CARMEN... P.S. I'm pissed that I won't be around for the release of Modern Rock Song. I hope I hear it before I get back! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:09:22 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 98 09:09:22 MST Subject: Sinister: xmas tape exchange Message-ID: <9810259120.AA912017764@mail.newtimes.com> i had an idea last night as i pondered the whereabouts of the mysterious black sessions tape which is lost somewhere between france and san francisco (sing to "arthur's theme") and sulked over the fact that the u.s. tape forest was destroyed and i was left without a single tree... anyway, i love xmas...there...i've come clean. and i was wondering if anyone would be interested in participating in a tape exchange with other members on the list...it will be a kind of secret satan exchange... everyone interested can email me and let me know and then next monday i'll email each person individually and let them know where they can send their wondrous creation...and that way, everyone will get at least one gift this year... i'll randomly match tape sender with receiver and the only thing you need to let me know if you're interested in participating is: a) your name b) your address c) whether you will send anywhere in the world, or wish to remain domestic (or which countries you are willing to ship to) d) something you really dig (besides b&s) to aid the person who will send you your tape/gift please don't participate if you won't be able to send your gift tape by dec. 9th...there's nothing worse than being giftless at xmas. look forward to hearing from everyone. cheers.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 17:22:01 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:22:01 PST Subject: Sinister: RE: what about these cuts? Message-ID: <199811251722.JAA09169@f326.hotmail.com> >>A mullet cut is short on top and sides and long at the back. I thought that this was called the Rudi Voller haircut (after the famous german footballer) , and usually its accompanied by a large mustache (and only a mustache , nada mas). From what I've learned at school this hair cut became very popular on the eastern side of the iron-curtain , as they belived this to a symbol of democracy and prosperity. As far as I know the R.V. haircut is still popular amongst icehockey players , footballers from the former communist states and Def Leppardzz fans. I saw a painting of a fox in the snow at work today ..... it looked hungry....and a bit sad. Anybody here who wants to take part in a little debate?????? yes????? If a piece of cheese , letssay a piece of cheddar , would take on a sofa in a game of curling who would come out on top???? And why wasn't the rhino invited??? Ciao Szola ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Candyfuzz at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 17:25:18 1998 From: Candyfuzz at xxx.com (Candyfuzz at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:25:18 EST Subject: Sinister: mullet watch Message-ID: err.... why all of the mullet talk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 17:20:10 1998 From: Anastasia_Signoretta at xxx.com (Anastasia Signoretta) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:20:10 EST Subject: Sinister: have some more stuffing Message-ID: hullo kiddies, well i thought i'd post a little tidbit of nothingness before jaunting off for my (yippee!!) four-day thanksgiving holiday. to the brits and other non-americans on the list: i feel very sorry for you that your respective home countries do not celebrate a thanksgiving of any kind. or maybe they do and i'm just incredibly culturally unaware. in any case, american thanksgiving is a really lovely holiday, happy turkey day to all american sinisterines. so do i have anything of worth to say? no. er, the list has been up to weirdness lately (this jessica/ahren thing? mullets? wot's this?) and not much of it interests me unfortunately. but something i *did* notice...there is another 'anastasia' on this list! how can that be? we're not totally the same...the 'new' one spells our name differently. but still...i feel like less of an individual, i'm going to go weep into my hazelnut coffee now. anyhow...the poetry parrots sits on my shoulder, saying everything when i talk. cheers mark...i'm watching out for p!o!o!. come monday i will gift you all with something moving and splendifirous...say prayers over the weekend that i don't consult my copy of jewel's best-selling poetry collection 'a night without armor.' (by the way, i didn't appreciate all the corrs bashing in the irish bands thread. i work for them and they are really lovely people!) and i think i know who i'm passing the parrot to for the week following, so be on the lookout for exotic things flying overhead... nothing much else to report (no b&s content, shame on me!) except that the 'velvet goldmine' soundtrack is ACE. (my non-twee moment, i don't think many of you know i'm really a glitter glam rock queen...i like all different kinds of music too, funny that!) oh, and that i'm going to get to drink champagne now in the middle of the day at work, for some celebration of some sort. wa-hey. and new york city listees, come to tiswas this saturday! come see me dance drunkenly to 'the boy with the arab strap!' it's a sight to behold, really. all right, enough of that. cheerstabyenowluv. stasia ------------- Original Text >From "Heather Marie Propes" , on 11/25/98 12:06 PM: unfortunately, both Frida and Agnetha from ABBA sport mullets on the back of ABBA Gold. :( http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Wed Nov 25 17:33:34 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina House) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:33:34 +0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: what about these cuts? References: <199811251647.LAA01669@bottlerocket.com> Message-ID: <365C3F6E.5E2F99A2@jeepster.co.uk> oh dear, isn't that was a rude word? ... Tony Zito wrote: > > In my neck of the woods (which is not to say that my neck resembles the > woods, no not at all my pretties), we call this a "shlong", as in "SH(ort > on top,) LONG (in the back)". just wondering, Katrina. -- ************************************************************************ jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 http://www.jeepster.co.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mars at xxx.net Wed Nov 25 17:47:22 1998 From: mars at xxx.net (M R McDonald) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:47:22 -0800 Subject: Sinister: "She and me" Message-ID: <365C42AA.1E44889C@pe.net> > >>Someone was asking why yu couldn't use 'she and me' in a sentence. You can use them in the same sentence ("She gave me the book."), just not as the "she and me" combination together. > An easy way to work it out is to leave out one of the people you're > mentioning. You can't say something like "Stuart Murdoch gives she and > me > palpitations" because if you leave out the 'me' you get "Stuart > Murdoch > gives she palpitations" which is wrong. It should be 'her' and not > 'she'. > That's why I don't think you can have "she and me" in a sentence - > it's > grammatically incorrect because the two words are incompatible being > in > different declensions (if that's the right word). I think it might be > to do > with one being passive and the other active, but I'm not sure. "She" is the subject of the verb and "me" would be the object of the verb. > > > Incidentally, you can use the same trick to work out whether you > should be > saying "you and I" or "you and me". But for the same reason you can > only > say "he and I" or "him and me". You can't say "he and me". The best I can do to use "she and me" in the same sentence is, of course, still grammatically _wrong_. Here goes: "She and me, whom she despises, went to the park together." You get the "She" (subject) associated with "me, whom" (object,) so it might sound odd to say "She and I, whom she despises ....", since the association of "I" and "whom" could seem strange. It's still _wrong_, though. OK, next! mars at pe.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 17:44:01 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:44:01 PST Subject: No subject Message-ID: <19981125174401.6580.qmail@hotmail.com> wow, 93 post later and here i am. i think i actually fully read about all of 5 posts. what's up sinister? is it just me or does everyone all of a sudden feel they have to post 10 times a day. i'll back my boy up in what he said and pjmiller. slow down people the list aint going nowhere. (but of course here i am posting about it so is that kinda a contradiction?) it's become a game with me to hit the delete key first then see how much of meaningless, or non amusing post i can read before the computer eats it up. sad. i know i don't have to be here, but i do enjoy reading what quite a few of you have to say. i have nothing more to say i guess(except i do like all of you and hope to get in yer pants one by one) robbie please send hate mail personaly, don't make honey hate me for bringing it up with 1000 replys. on my c.d. player: a wet sock named "loneliness" ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casio at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 17:46:37 1998 From: casio at xxx.com (Tony Zito) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 12:46:37 -0500 Subject: Sinister: RE: what about these cuts? In-Reply-To: <365C3F6E.5E2F99A2@jeepster.co.uk> References: <199811251647.LAA01669@bottlerocket.com> Message-ID: <199811251744.MAA02161@bottlerocket.com> why yes, it may have other connotations, which aren't entirely inappropriate considering those who wear them. t. At 12:33 PM 11/25/98 , Katrina House wrote: > >oh dear, isn't that was a rude word? ... > >Tony Zito wrote: >> >> In my neck of the woods (which is not to say that my neck resembles the >> woods, no not at all my pretties), we call this a "shlong", as in "SH(ort >> on top,) LONG (in the back)". > >just wondering, >Katrina. > >-- >************************************************************************ > jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk > 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk > phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 > http://www.jeepster.co.uk >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Wed Nov 25 17:47:27 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:47:27 +0000 Subject: Sinister: i'm back (again), but not in Denim (again) References: <90a13e39.3622cdf9@aol.com> Message-ID: <365C42AF.54854131@lineone.net> okay, so i just heard from Honey that one of you lot has been, and i quote, "spectacularly rude" about me. Who was it? Tag? You said you would forget about that faux pas in the Empire foyer. Keith? I thought we'd sorted that problem over our disagreement about the limited edition signed Arab Strap 'toys'. I certainly sent back the ones you didn't want, maybe you didn't get the refund? Or was it the Miller man? I told you i wouldn't hold you personally responsible, didn't i? oh well. It's lovely to be back, but don't expect it to last long, especially if you're not going to instantly vote me number one in the list crush stakes. keep the faith, the duke. ------------------------------------------ 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' ------------------------------------------ Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mars at xxx.net Wed Nov 25 17:57:04 1998 From: mars at xxx.net (M R McDonald) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:57:04 -0800 Subject: Sinister: yumm... grammar References: <649dc3e.365c2980@aol.com> Message-ID: <365C44F0.33B1BE5E@pe.net> > it also helps to remember that "whom" always follows a > prepositional phrase. Not quite. See me post, sent before I read this one, where I use the sentence: "She and me, whom she hates, went to the park." (It was something like that.) The sentence is incorrect grammatically, but not because of the "whom she despises" part. "Whom" is simply the objective form of "who." It does not require a preposition. This is getting out of hand, isn't it? mars at pe.net +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 16:46:28 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 09:46:28 -0700 Subject: Sinister: The Unofficial Biography Part Three Message-ID: I bet you thought I'd forgotten didn't you? No such luck. Sorry folks, but here it is, a quick summary of what happened in the third part of "Belle and Sebastian - The Unofficial Biography" on Channel Four last night. One of the high points was Aidan Moffat throwing a fit and walking out of Arab Strap's Japanese tour when his pre-show avocados failed to appear. Meanwhile Belle and Sebastian played a gig in Glasgow and a load of record company people descended on them. Amongst these was Seymour Stein who told Stuart that he wanted the songwriter and the two birds, but get rid of the rock'n'roll drummer and the one who smells of wee. This left Stuart with a bit of a moral dilemma, and we have to wait until next week to find out what happens, but I think that the diminutive Aussie lass in the background of the final shot had caught Stuart's eye, so maybe all is not lost. Kevan The Fat Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mark at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 17:52:14 1998 From: Mark at xxx.com (Mark Casarotto) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:52:14 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Lady P and Fluffy S, sitting in a tree Message-ID: <710AD5AF4EE3D111945C00805F0D0E2234A1AC@server1.HITEntertainment.com> The Fluffy one has, not for the first time, inspired me to write a wee note to you all, even though I did have a little lyrical nibble this morning... Firstly, important stuff - the Monday poem (all two verses of it) was by Walt Whitman, which I don't think I said yesterday, and it's a smasher. Check it out, groovers. Secondly...Sarah said: "this is pretty 'provincial' Preston, god knows what inner-city BIIIG cities are like. It's all the back streets half the casuals, kids who are so bored out oftheir minds you got fuck all to do." I've never been as frightened and uncomfortable in any town or city as I was wandering around downtown Newton Abbot, in the mixed blessing that is sunny Devon, at night. For exactly the reasons the girl wot 11 people fancy said. But London, bless its gemutlich little behind, has far less of this problem simply because there are so many more things to do and more places to go. Perhaps I don't really know what the inner cities are like, these mythically violent council estates like the Cockcroft in TV's "The Bill" not being places I have any reason to visit. But for the fear factor, "provincial" towns full of fucked off youths with no future take some beating. I'm finally going to Scotland! Me and Vicky'll be heading up for three days of celtic bliss in Glasgow and Edinburgh, so maybe I'll see some of you around... Big kisses, as I'm in a good mood - Lady P's making us dinner, and he's a smashing chef - you simply *must* taste his puttanesca... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From casio at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 18:09:42 1998 From: casio at xxx.com (Tony Zito) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 13:09:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: "She and me" In-Reply-To: <365C42AA.1E44889C@pe.net> Message-ID: <199811251807.NAA02351@bottlerocket.com> how about: I am she and me, I'd prefer not to. t. At 12:47 PM 11/25/98 , M R McDonald wrote: > >> >>Someone was asking why yu couldn't use 'she and me' in a sentence. > >You can use them in the same sentence ("She gave me the book."), just >not as the "she and me" combination together. > >> An easy way to work it out is to leave out one of the people you're >> mentioning. You can't say something like "Stuart Murdoch gives she and > >> me >> palpitations" because if you leave out the 'me' you get "Stuart >> Murdoch >> gives she palpitations" which is wrong. It should be 'her' and not >> 'she'. >> That's why I don't think you can have "she and me" in a sentence - >> it's >> grammatically incorrect because the two words are incompatible being >> in >> different declensions (if that's the right word). I think it might be >> to do >> with one being passive and the other active, but I'm not sure. > >"She" is the subject of the verb and "me" would be the object of the >verb. > >> >> >> Incidentally, you can use the same trick to work out whether you >> should be >> saying "you and I" or "you and me". But for the same reason you can >> only >> say "he and I" or "him and me". You can't say "he and me". > >The best I can do to use "she and me" in the same sentence is, of >course, still grammatically _wrong_. Here goes: "She and me, whom she >despises, went to the park together." You get the "She" (subject) >associated with "me, whom" (object,) so it might sound odd to say "She >and I, whom she despises ....", since the association of "I" and "whom" >could seem strange. It's still _wrong_, though. > >OK, next! > >mars at pe.net > > > >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 17:29:05 1998 From: Jim.Schmidt at xxx.com (Jim Schmidt) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 98 10:29:05 MST Subject: Sinister: not-so-secret satan exchange--xmas tape exchange Message-ID: <9810259120.AA912022445@mail.newtimes.com> just a brief footnote as people have started to respond: 1) the tape can have whatever kind of music/sounds/recordings you wish to send...you may include b&s material...use your creativity... 2) remember to let me know if you are willing to send to other countries or if you'd rather remain domestic 3) in regards to what do you like, it doesn't just have to be musical tastes (because the person who's sending your gift tape will be providing that, so to speak), but something that you really dig--from dogs to dentists to sports deodorants to johnny depp...whatever. just something for the person making your tape to help them customize it just for you. remember, please get back to me by november 30th. cheers.jim. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 19:19:57 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 11:19:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: solitary man Message-ID: <19981125191958.27895.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> My friend Andrew had an insight a few years ago on this topic. He said: What does it mean if I hate people but I don't feel better when they're not around? Indeed. === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil I go, you stay-- two autumns. _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Bluvelour at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 19:41:50 1998 From: Bluvelour at xxx.com (Bluvelour at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 14:41:50 EST Subject: Sinister: yumm... grammar Message-ID: <8c453546.365c5d7e@aol.com> okay, so i didn't mean *always*. usually. okay? i think what i meant was that in a situation like that, if there's a preposition, than it's always followed by "whom" or "whomever". am i right in saying that? 'cause i can;t think of a single situation in which one would say "to who". i should would on wording such things a bit better, no? xo cindycola +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Wed Nov 25 19:43:19 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:43:19 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Happy Happy Happy Harringay! Message-ID: <01be18ab$da591ce0$744605c3@itjfvkli> Welcome back, Duke of Harringay! I hope you will be a sobering presence in these troubled times. It certainly wasn't me that was so exuberantly rude to you, it was a Carmen Miranda's hat of rudeness, you know. I'd be inclined to give the guilty person a bunch of fives. After all, you've got your reputation to think about. Queen Bee Janine appears to share her birthday with one of our list uncles, Augusto Pinochet. I hope you both have a lovely day. You don't fool me, Ethelreddy. Despite your nice farewell message, I know you're just going round the corner to the Sha-La-La list, like all the other turncoats. Mark my words, you'll be back. Just like Duke. Right, I'm off to watch the football, it should be quite exciting tonight. Last night I successssssssfully predicted the exact moment at which Phil Babbs would tuck his shirt in. Whoops, that was a dull as fuck in joke. keep the faith Peter PS: Jordi, I've had a look at your translations, they look OK to me, just one or two problems, which I'll point out to you tomorrow, probably on the list so that everyone can have a good laugh, if you don't mind. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mctag at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 20:29:52 1998 From: mctag at xxx.com (Robert McTaggart) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:29:52 GMT Subject: Sinister: Someone tell me it's all a bad dream Message-ID: <365d6827.4134528@post.demon.co.uk> Some questions: How much imagination does it take to say "I can't believe no-one has a crush on me" when ten people have already said the same thing? How many people really care when your birthday is? While the kisses in the stock room between two people most of us have never met are very sweet, does it honestly merit an ongoing discussion? Is it me, or is quibbling over grammar really fucking boring? How come I've just had more digests in 24 hours than ever before and yet the only thing I feel inspired to write is "unsubscribe sinister-digest"? I know at least three people whose have entertained and amused over the past twelve months who have either unsubscribed or are not posting, because of certain people who seem to think that the minutae of their lives is so fascinating to total strangers. I used to wonder why people complained about posts that weren't interesting to them, "there's always the delete key", I thought. I wonder no longer. I know I don't always (often) write on-topic, and I'm all for people sharing little anecdotes about themselves, so long as they're done with wit or intelligence or imagination, but if you're going to write something that's of interest to half a couple people, mail it to them not to me. I know it's Paul's job to tell people off, and some of you are probably asking who the hell I think I am, but I like this list, it's been good to me, and I feel a certain loyalty to it. But I'm actually embarrassed by some of the crap I've been reading lately, and I know there's a few others who feel the same. That's all, I'll try and be funny next time. Tag x +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ECHODEK1 at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 22:57:59 1998 From: ECHODEK1 at xxx.com (ECHODEK1 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 17:57:59 EST Subject: Sinister: ....canadian west coast? Message-ID: <4d97044.365c8b77@aol.com> hello... Anyone here from the Canadian west coast?....... Whats in my stereo?.....Mogwai - Young Team +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ECHODEK1 at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 23:16:46 1998 From: ECHODEK1 at xxx.com (ECHODEK1 at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 18:16:46 EST Subject: Sinister: ....canadian west coast? Message-ID: <89a63e9e.365c8fde@aol.com> Mark great taste.....mogwai is amazing michael +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From goodforyoo at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 23:30:12 1998 From: goodforyoo at xxx.com (milla |razorkandy|) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 23:30:12 GMT Subject: Sinister: thanksgrubbing Message-ID: <19981125233013.25137.qmail@hotmail.com> i also feel sorry for all the brits who don't celeb. thanksgiving as i am a brit who does. any listees in the region of cambridge, uk who are on for Stuff on thurs 26th evening should mail me privately. Iss always nice to see people yoo haven't yet met. there will be turkey tinsel music friends and film (+ serendipity). My party is called trash and glory. what's yours called? i wear a duffel coat. Ive had it since I was 9. does that make me twee? what if I wear it with stack boots and dungarees worn down (pants showing)and a brownies tshirt? and big headphones and a lip stud? this goes out to all yoo social deconstructors out dere....teehehe ................milla... **boo to the business world** ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Wed Nov 25 23:44:16 1998 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:44:16 -0800 Subject: Sinister: Cheese v. Sofa In-Reply-To: <199811251722.JAA09169@f326.hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981125154416.0097fbf0@mail.hooked.net> At 09:22 AM 11/25/98 PST, Andras Zalan Szolnoki wrote: >If a piece of cheese , letssay a piece of cheddar , would take on a sofa >in a game of curling who would come out on top???? >And why wasn't the rhino invited??? The sofa obviously would come out on top as it has much more oomph and touch than the cheese (especially cheddar). Also a sofa has two arms and could control the curl and the sweep with more precision. Sofas tend to have more friends than cheese since they are comfortable to be around and it's always encouraging to have a suppportive crowd. Cheddar cheese can be biting or stale and sours if left by itself too long. Looks like the cheese stands alone while the sofa rests its case. As for the rhino, he tends to be horny and nobody should be thinking of sex while involved in a serious curling match. (especially with a spicy cheese around...) pants+/- <- with sawdust tusks +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From mart at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 01:20:20 1998 From: mart at xxx.uk (Martin Horsfield) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 01:20:20 +0000 Subject: Sinister: mullet in your head Message-ID: I've thoroughly enjoyed the mullet conversation myself. About two years back, I was discussing ith some friends whether it would ever be possible for anyone to make moustaches fashionable again. Sure enough, some weeks later, there was Shaun Ryder on the front cover of the NME with a full-blown muzzie. So, it's down to you Shaun. Have you got what it takes to squeeze into a pair of acid wash jeans and a cap sleeved T- shirt and make the mullet rock again? Personally I reckon everything's poosible in the self-referential world of pop. I saw Hugh Pooh Stick wearing a Boston T-shirt at a festival once and he looked immediately like the coolest person on earth. Of course, a mullet revival really would be irony gone mad... Unfortunately, the bus stories seem to have petered out just lately. But if anyone wants to read a good book written by a bus driver, no less, let me reccommend Magnus Mills' 'The Pursuit Of Beasts'. It's a really deadpan, whimsical short story; the kind of thing that Will Self used to write (without his relentless pseudery). Lastly, did any listees see Velocette last week? Though their pop suss is sometimes undermined by rampant effects pedal abuse, their singer has the shiniest hair in pop. A Timotei endorsement must surely follow. PS/ To Fluffy Candarel: I know all about the horrors of Preston, it's the town of my birth, but lay off Chorley; it's the land of 1,000 pubs, you know. Fair enough, if you want to drink among the over 16s, you have to look further afield but, hey, that's a matter of taste. As for Elephant & Castle, though I enjoy living here, its psychedelic pink shopping centre makes your Fishergate and St George's look like Vegas. Martin Horsfield, pisces +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stray4f at xxx.net Thu Nov 26 02:17:19 1998 From: stray4f at xxx.net (3) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:17:19 -0400 Subject: Sinister: SNOB=NO B&S? Message-ID: <199811260319.WAA75562@pimout2-int.prodigy.net> ---------- >From: Heather Marie Propes >And yet, the whole subject of mullets, white trash, and bad taste in >general brings a larger problem to the surface for me, that is, who is in >charge of defining bad taste? why do you seek or need someone in charge of defining standards of taste for you? I ask this as someone who was indoctrinated >into the study of art history during its flirtation with >"poststructuralism," when you were taught to feel guilty if you asserted >that you actually liked a Flemish painting better than a work by an >untaught American folk artist, or a work depicting dogs playing pool on a >piece of velvet (excuse the kitschy, trendy examples) because, after all, >the divisions between "high" and "low" culture, have supposedly been >obscured in the postmodern era. why do you pay people to indoctinate you or teach you guilt? And yet, when you dare to assert that >something reveals bad taste, you get a whole host of people calling you a >snob and suddenly you don't feel so liberal anymore. This is a true >dilemma for me, because I like to think of myself as a liberal and a >fairly open, cosmopolitan person. Yet, I believe that there are certain >distinctions. How can these be justified? How can you not sound like a >snob? > >Heather > Hmmmmmm.....perhaps one could start by not throwing around pejurative classist snob put downs like "white trash" while snickering and giggling at haircuts you don't find hip enough. Sorry, but it's one thing to simply wander off topic, and another when that thread devolves into a bunch of squishily privileged student types ridiculing those that don't have the leisure to coast through life getting makeovers and new hairstyles every three months while collecting Pulp b-sides. So the haircut looks foolish to you. Great. Hopefully they are in turn laughing along at the realm of chumps buying magazines, heading into salons, replacing last years "Friends" hair cut with this year's "Ally McBeal." Hey, I know. Let's hear something about Belle and Sebastian...... The band made their recent American tour laminates out of black and white stills from "Leningrad Cowboys Go America", the hilarious film about the Finnish (?) bands misadventures across the U.S. Sarah designed them, with the title "Belle and Sebastian Go America." Looper are releasing a full length album/cd on Sub-Pop next spring. Sub-pop seems to be carving out a niche releasing off shoots and side projects of interesting bands, as they will tentatively also be releasing a full length by Music Tapes which is Julian's Neutral Milk Hotel off shoot. If anyone on the list hasn't checked out Neutral Milk Hotel's records yet, they are worth your while. "On Avery Island" from 96 is mostly 4 track fuzz folk, this year's "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" is cleaner and yet still an entire world to get lost inside. Merge puts them out here in the States while the recently collapsed Blue Rose label in England issued them in the UK. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 03:27:27 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 22:27:27 EST Subject: Sinister: tongue kissing Message-ID: You know... it's interesting that with all this hoopla over J&A, most people have either condemned Jessica or condemned Jessica & Ahren, but no one's actually said anything negative solely with Ahren. If Ahren didnt want to shift Jessica because of "loyalty" to his girlfriend (who I'd say is more of a sex partner and not a girlfriend) then he could have just fended her off - instead, he welcomed her advance. If people really want to condemn someone over this (rather than minding their own business!) then I'd suggest blaming the person who already has the girlfriend/boyfriend - after all, regardless of the advance, it's really not that difficult to say "no" to a peer. mike ps - btw i loooved the "property" comment, I must You Go Girl to Tragedienne, that's a very witty B&Sism there :-) In a message dated 11/24/98 07:30:27 AM, tragedienne at yahoo.com wrote: <<"okay, so i got up all my nerve and kissed ahren in the stockroom. tongue and everything, and a little groping." Normally, I would say "You go girl!!", but Ahren's got a girlfriend, so this makes the two of you partners in mischief. If Ahren were my man, oh the two of you would get a swift ass-whooping! Aren't there plenty of single men to seduce? God, some women just have no respect for other women's property!>> +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From JonnyKat at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 05:39:04 1998 From: JonnyKat at xxx.com (JonnyKat at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 00:39:04 EST Subject: Sinister: Julian Koster Message-ID: <8218bc7b.365ce978@aol.com> Someone whose name is also my lucky number "3" wrote: "Sub-pop seems to be carving out a niche releasing off shoots and side projects of interesting bands, as they will tentatively also be releasing a full length by Music Tapes which is Julian's Neutral Milk Hotel off shoot. If anyone on the list hasn't checked out Neutral Milk Hotel's records yet, they are worth your while." Since Neutral Milk has been mentioned several times on the list recently, I thought I would add my thoughts here. Julian Koster is one of my dearest friends on this entire planet. His music is incredible, as is the music of Neutral Milk Hotel, Olivia Tremor Control, and all those lovely Elephant Six folks. For lovers of Belle and Sebastian, this stuff is very much in the same spirit, but in a different style. In fact, Julian and I (with the ones we love) spent much of this past Halloween together (drunkenly) listening to Belle and Sebastian at a volume that can only be described as LOUD. And we talked quite a bit about all of YOU -- so there! All good things, naturally. : ) Weren't there other list members there? Oh, it's all such a blur. Anyway, watch for The Music Tapes. It's a little slice of fuzzy P!O!O! genius that took Julian about three years to make. Direct your browsers to: http://www.pitt.edu/~jwfst11/elephant6/ for more info on the Elephant Six collective. Fare thee well my little sinisterines, and happy listening. Love and Kisses, Jonny Meow +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L2raViolet at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 06:41:27 1998 From: L2raViolet at xxx.com (L2raViolet at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 01:41:27 EST Subject: Sinister: its nice to meet you... (have a nice turkey!) Message-ID: hallo...im another shy saggie daydreamer whos been peeping at your posts for the last couple a months, but could never quite muster up the guts to say: Hallo Everyone!...im branwyne. its nice to meet you! *sigh* i havent found any other sweetnsinisterines in my neighborhood (anyone 'round pasadena?) so ive started converting people one by one. its easy...my dad took to belle and sebby right off. sometimes i find him whistling *put the book back* whilst fixing dinner. my dog on paws, however, is still a bit puzzled by *if youre feeling sinister.* when it gets to the bits with the children laughing and shouting, his ears go up and he puts his snout up to the speaker and cocks his head to one side...and then the other. then he looks at me quizzically. tis really, sweetly amusing...(try it with someone furry and see!) well...happy un/birthday to everyone and i hope things work out with the (Very Naughty!) tongue kissing. have a nice turkey! love, ultraviolet- branwyne p.s. oh alright...i guess ill ask...would anyone be willing to send me a copy of the black sessions/tigermilk/Anything!...if i provide a tape, postage, $? i dont really have much in the way of tradables so i know this isnt a very enticing offer ...but if you have some excess x-mas spirit that you would like to shed...or are a pastels completist that wouldnt mind a sort-of-shoddy recording of a recent l.a. radio interview/live performance in which stephen(awww!) talks a little about b&s...well... let me know and i will love you till the end of my days. (thought id just give it a shot...) p.p.s someone once mentioned thier addiction to p.b. clif bars...mmm...carrottcake is very tasty too! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 10:03:54 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:03:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Welcome Home Mr Duke, Welcome Home Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B00426223@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Ahhh, Mr Duke returneth like the messiah and speaketh the following words: >oh well. It's lovely to be back, but don't expect it to last long, >especially if you're not going to instantly vote me number one >in the list crush stakes. Fucking Hell!!! He's real. Mr Duke is real. I'm very, very happy that you've returned Mr Duke. You haven't been around since I joined Sinister and I thought you were maybe just some made-up focus for all the wonderfully inane banter that goes on round these parts. You're my hero Mr Duke. So, can I come and visit you? Can I stay at your house? Will you introduce me to some of the nice girl pupils? I'll tell you what everyone's been saying about you. I'm a right sneaky little sod. And I love you Mr Duke. You can have my list crush any day of the week. Then there was another fine prediction from Mystic MIller: >Right, I'm off to watch the football, it should be quite exciting >tonight. And bloody hell, it was exciting. We had to set up segregation in our living room. We were all going to pile round Tag's house and give him a kicking if it ended up a draw, but then we didn't want to go out in the rain. Just as well. Reading his message from last night I suspect the little fella was in a foul mood. He'd have probably used karate on us. Anyway to brighten up the list I suggest Mr Tag tells us some interesting historical railway facts. I'll start though. Mr Charles Dickens survived a fatal rail collision five years to the day before he died. Imagine the consequences for English literature had he been killed??? Spooky, huh? Well not really. As far as I can tell he wrote fuck all of consequence in the last five years of his life. But see, I knew nothing about this pillar of English literature a few days ago. Now I've expanded my knowledge. This is what's known as "bettering yourself" and I hope we're all agreed that this is a good thing. Er, is that another nail in the coffin of Sinister? Sorry folks. The NME Rock 'n' Roll Years book's got some interesting facts in it though. Like one about Mr Keith Moon who used to dress up as policeman before Who shows and search the audience for drugs. Presumably he "confiscated" any he found, but this was only implied. That was really for the benefit of Watson and Miller but I suspect they knew this fact already. Oh, and having spent the first eighteen years of my life in a council house on one of these so called "rough" estates, I'd just like to say they're brilliant. When I was very small (about Tag size) me and my other little friends used to envy the people who got to live in the tower blocks. Dreamy forgotten days when throwing a milk crate full of empty bottles from the fourteenth floor was the most excitement anyone could have anywhere in the whole world ever. And that'll do from me. Farewell, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From nmontaldi at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 10:16:28 1998 From: nmontaldi at xxx.com (Nikolas Montaldi) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 02:16:28 PST Subject: Sinister: MICK COOKE GOT LOVELY ARMS... Message-ID: <19981126101630.19339.qmail@hotmail.com> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE I know there is an ongoing obsession with Stuarts "Arms of Sex" on the list.I'm not really sure if I can share this and turn other peoples limbs into some sort of sexual fetish...Having said that I would just like to point out that Mick Cookes arms ar'nt bad as well. Im not 100% sure if they are arms of sex though;someone else will probably be able to tell us. I happen to know that that they are not bad because I had a look at them from close up some months ago in Leeds.Mick was standing extremely close to a table I was having lunch at;although I didn't really want to stare I couldn't fail to notice those very white arms with a great big blue vein. Now who was "Simple Things" all about?? But maybe Isobels' got nice big blue veins on her arms as well...I don't know.I just thought we should shift our attention from Stuart;nobody ever writes something about Mick or Sarah...whats wrong with them?I think Sarah seems to be extremely nice and talented...she might even have erotic ankles - you never know;don't underestimate girls with violins... Just a silly thought...Hope you are all well; NIK ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Nov 26 10:24:48 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:24:48 +0100 Subject: Sinister: The Wa-hey We Were! Message-ID: <01be1926$fefd0900$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Let's talk about the good old days.....y'know, y'know...back when da hip was hop and de bunnies was a-hummin'....let's go back, way back...at times like these what the world needs most is another top ten sinister moments...so let's take that trip down memory lane...ain't no grammar lesson...ain't no birthday list...sure ain't about snoggin'...it's the sinister list, back when Sha-La-La was just a twinkle in Tim's discarded underpants.... 1) Adrian Evans claiming that 2 million Scots are permanently pissed 2) Trousers threatening to "dandle" us all on his knee 3) Keith's mistaken message to the Van Halen list 4) Brad's subtle reference to a recent pop illness: "Isobel shat in my ice cube tray" 5) Reid Dossinger and friend frightening Mad Dog and Ding Dong on the street at night 6) Mad Dog's shiny apple seduction technique 7) Lady Penelope's in-depth analysis of the Irish music scene, especially the Gavin Friday bit 8) Tag bumping into Rodd at the airport. It's a small but sinister world 9) Fluffy Sarah calling me a stale bucket of wee 10) Paul "Honey" Mitchell's behind the scene negotiations to get Augusto Pinochet subscribed during his stay in London "to impose a bit of fucking discipline on the list". Thank you for your time, Nostalgic Sister Disco In my way: a gaggle of angry owls (in my dream last night) PS: I was right about the football, wasn't I? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Tjonrr at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 11:08:15 1998 From: Tjonrr at xxx.com (Tjonrr at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 06:08:15 EST Subject: Sinister: mmm...entrails Message-ID: <9d453797.365d369f@aol.com> in Scotland we dont need thanksgiving- early next year we get to celebrate Burns night when we all get to dress up in skirts and eat sheeps stomachs filled with guts and stuff. jealous? you should be. sorry to waste your time. from tjohn. PS can i just recommend 'The Shoe' by Gordon Legge to anyone who hasnt read it? it reads sort of like one of them wee storys on the inside of B+S records.but longer. obviously. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cleonard at xxx.COM Thu Nov 26 11:39:54 1998 From: cleonard at xxx.COM (Chris Leonard) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:39:54 -0000 Subject: Sinister: i see you've met my faithful handyman Message-ID: yeeeiip morning it's cowboy chris in disguise as email, last night me and miss julia attended the 'grand ole opry' near GOVAN to see teenage fanclub, and it was tops in an achy breaky kinda way. Support was provided by the v-twin who were better than last time but still pretty damn awful, mostly cos the singers PISH. Teenage Fanclub were ace, it was a very pleasant evening. There was a high Belle and Sebastian presence. Wee chris and stevie (on a few tunes with the moothie) were playing with v-twin and sarah joined teenage fanclub on stage for the big finale which was purty. Struan Murdoch was there too, yelling "TURN IT UP FOR FUCKS SAKE" and "ENCORE!". How I smirked. But what impressed me most all evening was this: There was a man dancing like mad, with a beer mat on his head. I thought, that's a bit strange, to dance with a beer mat on one's head. He danced and danced till eventually he collapsed onto the stage. Meanwhile a fella standing behind him had not been dancing, just bopping a bit. On seeing that the first man had collapsed, the second fella cagily approached and stole the beer mat. He slowly put it on his own head and instantly started dancing like a maddie. You see it had magical properties, this beer mat. Speaking of which, welcome back duke. The building next door to my work burnt down yesterday, did any of you see it on the news? There were 219 fireman involved and the smoke was billowing and belching and we were all coughing and rubbing our red eyes. But would they evacuate the building? No. It was fucking scary, man. But it did made me think of a fiendish mind bender thus: You are in the school playground. You have a ropeswing, which swings between two platforms. One platform is labeled gay pop, the other christian rock. You can swing on the ropeswing with one arm whilst carrying one person (no more) under the other. You are standing on the Fay pop platform with stuart murdoch, isobel and sarah. What you have to do is get them all on the christian rock platform, before the end of playtime. But it's more complicated. Stuart and Isobel can't be left alone on a platform because they will 'snog' and get expelled. And Sarah and Isobel cannot be left alone on the platform because they will play their recorders, and recorders are banned at this school. You know the score. Don't send me answers, it's just for fun. spit nolan +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Thu Nov 26 11:57:42 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 06:57:42 -0500 Subject: Sinister: tell him what we said 'bout "paint it black" Message-ID: <365D4235.46AB@earthlink.net> ah yes i remember the good ol' days, too, i do. hell, i remember when i used to only get about thirty mails a day and 75% of them would make me bust a nut with laughter. it didn't used to be thirty mails about grammar. shit, i even enjoyed the whole top ten list that went around. the best one was whoever did top ten numbers. hey, remember that time tag admitted to everyone that he quite thoroughly enjoyed the idea of prison sex and everyone gave him the silent treatment for two weeks......well, except for that ex-con guy from west virginia. whatever happened to him? and, hoo boy, remember when duke went mental and started extolling the virtues of stryper. he was even thinking of naming his book "to hell with the devil" 'til pjmiller talked him out of it. and speaking of pjmiller, remember that time he sent in a picture of a 12 inch turd that he had just laid and he had molded it into a perfect likeness of northy. and then honey kicked him off the list for not making a sculpture of him. here, i saved a copy of honey's pink slip to pjmiller: > dearest pj, > you sack of dick! i would've loved to have had my likeness carved in > crap, but noooooo, you had to go and carve that neo-nazi, northy! i > would've gladly donated various textures, sizes, and colors of shit. > so until i get a nice bust of myself in the mail made entirely of > human droppings, i hereby kick you off this list. be gone! ah! those were the days. now, i just end up deleting forty messages with the word "grammar" in the subject before i even read them. and tag rarely posts anymore (except for that welcome tirade earlier). and duke never taunts us with bands we've never heard of anymore. and pjmiller lost his fascination with fecal matter. and i don't give a fuck about whatever happened to northy. it's just not the same. go tell it round the mountain, brad p.s. someone invite me to the sha-na-na list. yes, i know it's sha-la-la, but it would be much better if it was a list about sha-na-na. any damn way, someone tell me how to get on and i promise to remain smut free. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 12:16:49 1998 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:16:49 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Christian Rock Message-ID: <199811261215.MAA07224@punt1.hw.ac.uk> Hi guys and gals Robert McTaggert wrote: >Personally, I think this is the result of Linda's EEVL project. >She's trying to swap our personalities around. I think I'm turning >into Keith. Unfortunately I did leave my work signature on one mail, thus giving away the day job, the EEVL project, which is the Sinister mailing list, funnily enough. You are all part of an experiment, funded by The Devil himself, and the evil Baby Jesus clone.. Belle and Sebastian were specially chosen as the focus for this hellish experiment, to pay back wee Struan for his advancement of Christian rock. Next we round you all onto an island on the Caribbean, on the promise of B&S live and naked and playing Lord Anthony, and Struan coaxes you to drink a sleepy drink and pass to the world beyond. You know he wants to. He is too pretty to be good. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Damn Can I be Chris Leonard? Linda +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 12:50:31 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:50:31 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: Arab Strap Interpretations Message-ID: Hi again! Katerina Karlsson (is your name right?) asked if anyone had any idea about what 'The Boy with...' meant. I was just about to ask exactly the same when I read her posting, and have been thinking about the issue these two latter days without achieving any results, must be said. All those references about 'prison', 'smoke and squalor is not your style' ..etc are enough to feel inmersed in a sordid underworld from our heroine struggles to escape .But in the end, she is lying in bed with this non scrupled , filthy guy again, because she gives up and regards there is no anyone different for her.But the lines about speaking out what troubles your mind make me strayed, and I am afraid my trying is totally useless. Sorry K.K. ! your dream about the doll was lovely, I would like to have dreams like that... However I believe I had some B&S dream tonight, and I could remember it when opened my eyes, but now I just have the impression.It's quite likely as I was too excited and nervous, couldn't sleep, though my eyes were so tired of reading 'Birthday Letters' by Ted Hughes, and I was listening to Tigermilk (that I had just been given yesterday evening by our own laureate poet Robin Stout) and the Radio Sessions like four times. By the way, there is a poem in 'Birthday Letters' about a fox, which was offered by some travelling seller to the Hugheses in a London tube station. Sylvia wanted to get it and Ted, always playing the sensible role of they two, refused, thinking of how much of a hassle it would be to bring up a fox cub in a flat in London ,with two kids, and Sylvia was hugely dissappointed. The fox cub is transfigured in a metaphora of their so different ideas about life, and Hughes reflects upon the fact if he could have saved her if he had handed over a little, if he had bought her the beautiful fox with hazel, smirky eyes, everything could have still changed So, yes, probably foxes work well as symbol of harassed, isolated people in trouble with themselves and because of that bringing trouble to another ones. Sorry for this long and melancholic message. I would like to do something pretty, but I wonder if I still can Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belleandsebastian at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 14:17:34 1998 From: belleandsebastian at xxx.com (Karen David) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 98 14:17:34 UT Subject: Sinister: Sean!! with flatmates!!! (at the V-Twin show) Message-ID: hello list I'd just like to say I saw V-Twin in Glasgow last night and they were fantastic. They manage to play pretty much an entirely new set everytime they play. They were great, and the Fanclub were the best I've seen them for ages as well. David Kitchen sent us a load of e-mails from about the time we were in Philadelphia. It almost seems like a dream... I'm really sorry about the consequences of what happened. When I got back I also read a lot of really sweet mail that was sent before we made it over to the States. I'll try to get back to everyone, but I mean, if you were at the Philly gig, and maybe travelled a long way there, or to Toronto, and you're ever in Glasgow, then come and say hello, and we'll buy you breakfast at the cafe. It's the least we can do. Lots of love Stuart Murdoch ps anyone want to make a video for dirty dream number two ? The French label's screaming for one. They'll pay you to do it! pss hello Chris Leonard, I saw you last night but didn't get the chance to say hello psss I'm sure there was something else...oh yeah last time I posted something I didn't send it right and Neil sent it again for me and to wind me up he wrote The band speaks for a title, so if it says The band speaks or The band speaks up again! then you'll know that I haven't sent it properly again and that he is trying to get the rise again. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajduric at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 14:30:09 1998 From: ajduric at xxx.com (Alexandra Duric) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 06:30:09 PST Subject: Sinister: Belel & Sebastian for the heartbroken? Message-ID: <19981126143010.8357.qmail@hotmail.com> hello listees, Right then, this is one of those delicate subjects, where you either really get it and your heart stands still for a split second, or you really don't have a clue and hit delete. A co-worker, don't know her too well, but nice emotional Piscean girl, with OK taste in music (haven't had a chance to introduce her to the wonderful world of B&S) phones the other night, sobbing, because a boyfriend of SIX years did the unceremonious, classic telephone dump the other night. They had plans to get engaged in March next year. He visited her this weekend and decided during the tain ride home to do this. No, no, no, we're not looking for boy-bashing - much, much too easy. This morning she declares that Radiohead's OK Computer and Nick Hornby's High Fidelity are NOT exactly the most uplifting listens or reads whilst bogged down in this mental state, unless you really want to wallow in self-pity. She's utterly heartbroken and constantly on the verge of tears. I've noticed listees casually mentioning finding solace in the music of Belle & Sebastian and I'm wondering if I give her one of the albums, IYFS or TBWTAS, if maybe I'll be pulling her down even further, a fate I don't wish to tempt (believe me, this is the worst I've ever seen, and "suicidal" flickered into my head). Other than "wise" words, and an open ear, music is the only other thing I've turned to. Unfortunately, or fortunately, all my B+S listening experiences have been rather happy, so I cannot tell if I'll be doing the right thing. And if not B+S, then who? alexandra, at my wit's end trying to help a friend ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 14:43:21 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 14:43:21 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: RE: what about these cuts? In-Reply-To: <365C3F6E.5E2F99A2@jeepster.co.uk> Message-ID: Shlong means dick in yiddish, as far as I am concerned, but my knowledge of such an old and respectable language is very limited, so maybe it is just some similar word. Has Stuart M. really written to the list? Or is it just one of those fakers who tried to fool us about celebrities a few weeks ago? It would be so nice of him what is said in the message about people who missed the Philadelphia concert A. On Wed, 25 Nov 1998, Katrina House wrote: > > oh dear, isn't that was a rude word? ... > > Tony Zito wrote: > > > > In my neck of the woods (which is not to say that my neck resembles the > > woods, no not at all my pretties), we call this a "shlong", as in "SH(ort > > on top,) LONG (in the back)". > > just wondering, > Katrina. > > -- > ************************************************************************ > jeepster recordings ltd. - mailto:a-and-r at jeepster.co.uk > 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london, w10 5bn, uk > phone - 0181 964 9432, fax - 0181 964 8600 > http://www.jeepster.co.uk > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Thu Nov 26 15:02:31 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:02:31 +0100 Subject: Sinister: she and me Message-ID: <50E2A872E84@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> how about he kissed me and she was watching?? ok that is me and she and not she and me but still love vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 15:24:37 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 15:24:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: RE: what about these cuts? References: Message-ID: <365D72B5.C79C15BB@jeepster.co.uk> Aranzazu Sanz-Garcia wrote: > > Has Stuart M. really written to the list? Or is it just one of those > fakers who tried to fool us about celebrities a few weeks ago? It > would be so nice of him what is said in the message about people who > missed the Philadelphia concert it was stuart alright, i mean i posted all of the e-mails that flurried my way after the phildelphia and toronto shows, and the only person who could've known that was him, afterall i sent them to his home address. jees! have some faith :) david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wilde77 at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 15:37:51 1998 From: wilde77 at xxx.com (r. h.) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 07:37:51 PST Subject: Sinister: grandmothers are neat Message-ID: <19981126153752.20108.qmail@hotmail.com> wow! i know everyone is in the middle of doing what ever they do today but i'm in the middle of thanksgiving dinner. well guess what happend....my grandmother just started choking on a piece of bone that was in here turkey well of course my mom thinks she knows what to do and starts patting her on the back but apparantly that helped except that my grandmother shit on her self right there in front of everyone. of course we couldn't see it but there was this ungodly noise. you know, the universal noise that lets you know that someone has just shit themselves. the whole room got quite and everyone looked at her to wait for a reaction. she was picking the bone from her mouth then she turned to look at her backside and said "wow, i really had to go!" we all burst into laughter and gave her a hug in our understanding that these things happen when you get older and we weren't going to let a little shit get between our thanksgiving dinner. she is now, as i speak sitting at the table in fresh new clean pair of drawers. wow, you got to love grandmothers huh! gobble, gobble robbie ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TFertig3 at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 15:52:11 1998 From: TFertig3 at xxx.com (TFertig3 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:52:11 EST Subject: Sinister: no grammar content here! Message-ID: Hello list, Holy butterfinger, slow down your belles and sebastians; I've got too many posts too read! This makes a young girl sigh.. Oh baby! Remember when I said I was expecting Stu M to write in any day and give a lovely apology for the cancelled shows?? Well look here! And what a nice little letter it was.. what a poo poo. Here's my Top Ten List (OHH NOOO!) of what I've noticed about Sinisterines after being on this list for over a year: 1. We have weird and unusual names. (Reid, Weejay, Anastasia, Brier, Honey, Kevin who spells his name Kevan, just to name a few) 2. We like the Simpsons. Bart especially. Yes? Well I think so anyway. 3. A lot of us like to sign our names like this: xoxo or xxxx 4. We have all seen the infamous movie Gregory's Girl, except for me who is an uncultured scum-poo and has not yet bothered. 5. We like cheese. Well, at least I like cheese, and I think others do to, since I started that string of cheese content a bit back. For some reason it died out though. That's a shame. Cheese is beautiful. 6. We like making top ten lists. But we don't like reading them. 7. We are not all cardie-wearing biscuit nibblers. Some of us are punk rockers, you know. 8. I can't think of a number 8. Go on for number 9. 9. Oh boy.. give me some time. Go on for the next. 10. Oh oh yes! We like Belle and Sebastian! Well, yes. I almost forgot that one. But you wouldn't know it from the content of our posts.. :) So I've been at this party for over a year now, and it's hard not to put faces to posters after this long. So.. you know on Whose Line is It Anyway, the frequent comedian John Sessions I think his name is? That's Peter Miller! in my head I mean. David and Katrina are the couple from the Sundays, Harriet and David I think their names are. D&K are actually probably much cuter, but I will probably never know it.. :( I can't think of anymore right now. More later. Lots of love Tami +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From travelling_light at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 15:59:25 1998 From: travelling_light at xxx.com (Kin Woo) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 07:59:25 PST Subject: Sinister: HAPPY EXAMS RESULTS! and my answer to lots of posts:) Message-ID: <19981126155926.26308.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello lovely listees:) YAY! IT'S PAID OFF! What you ask? Well, listening to B&S for good luck music before exams of course! My exam results came back today and compared to my previous efforts were actually pretty good. (Ta to Jessica-GENEUS at aol.com for enquiring so nicely all those weeks ago) Now all those nights of 2-3 hour sleeps are behind me and it's summertime! So fellow B&S fanatics at uni, listening to B&S can boost your mark, although you gotta do *some* study for it too:) This is sorta a replying-to-many-posts at once err post. To S Sarkar, yeah I do love Mono and Tricky before he became self-indulgent. But Mono are a different kettle of fish altogether. Though they are unfairly lumped with the rest of the trip-hop gang, they sometimes make lovely Bacharach-ian 60's pop songs ( not unlike the legendary St Etienne). To whoever liked Calvin and Hobbes, yeah I love that comic too. Pity he stopped making them. It was so evidently the BEST comic strip along with "Cathy" and "Modesty Blaise":) I've got TONS of C&H books and love every one of 'em. It was a class above the rest. I pity you Americans, especially Evan Gregg (this is in response to his postings about Sparklehorse). I mean Sparklehorse are an American band and yet Americans will hear their latest album ("Good Morning Spider" not "Waking the spider") SOOO much later than the rest of the world. What an outrage. Even here in "backward" Australia, I've had "Good Morning Spider" for a good few months. Well at least you have the very considerable compensation that at least you''' get to see them live, while the chances of them ever coming here are *sniff* nil. Go Jason-same-name-as-Richard Juzwiak for championing "Buffy". It's a great show. They showed it over here in Australia over last summer hols and I loved it. It's not kitschy at all- merely very well written and acted and gripping. Unfortunately though it rated well over here, evidently not well enough to beat horrible 'homegrown' Aussie stuff like "Blue Heelers", "Australia's Funniest Home Videos" and AHEM! "the Footy Show" (about guess what? Football!) and embarassingly poor American pap like "JAG" and "Stargate". (Rich if you're reading this sorry for repeating myself!) Hence the second season has not shown yet. What a travesty. Any Buffy fans out there? On the same note, any "Xena" fans out there? (I LOOVE that show too!) What has happened to our darling resident French wit, Philippe? I guess he must be really busy earning the title of "Doctor Philippe". But I and I'm sure many others do miss his surreal and hilarious postings. Come back to us, Philippe! That's all for now folks, hope to read some responses to my postings from my lovely fellow listees soon Seeya Kin Woo p.s. welcome back duke!!!:) and i'm gullible and easily misled but was that really Stuart Murdoch who wrote a while back there (Karen David was the sender's name but the letter ended with his wondrous name!) I'm probably being foolish and lots of peeps are tittering but give me a break! I'm naive alright!:) With A Star Upon Your Shoulder Lighting Up The Path As You Walk ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 16:08:39 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:08:39 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Bipperty-Bopperty hats Message-ID: <199811261602.QAA12622@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Wow have you lot been busy... It took decades for all my mail to be sorted and you know when that happens something's going on... But it wasn't. Yes, we're all interested in developments with Ahren and grammatical nonsense but only *up to a point* and that means that single line e-mails directed to one person are not a good thing. I thought Honey would have intervened by now but he's dissapeared into the black hole that certain other people have re- appeared from. This is his business and I'm not getting into it, but I suggest you go and find a mailing from him called "PLEASE READ: message from list owner" before continuing in his absense. Enough of that *unpleasantness* I just got a message from robbie that was vile and sickening but not smut. More of this please. More smut too, but you've got to have a bit of variety haven't you. meanwhile I was delighted to see: > weejay (who writes a fantastic zine called -blue glow-) wrote: oh thank you teri; A shameless plug without any rebound on my character. I'm touched. BTW, if anyone has anything even remotely interesting that they'd like to write about (music related or not) get in touch, la, I'm desperate here and you can only pad something out with reviews *so much*.... On the content front I expect this has been done before but... say B&S put out a compilation of the 3 eps called, say, Songs For Children, they wouldn't fit together in the released order nonono - Elvis & Fakers would be next to each other and you wouldn't want that, and there are other problems too. So... What creative re-ordering of the tracks would you do to produce the perfect finished ordered product? I had a list but I left it at home... New tape tree tape today, thank you Dr. Nick. Haven't had one for a while but I find that that is the fault of Fluffy. I therefore take back my crush vote in disgust, leaving her with only 7 and therefore PJ gets both silver medals, one for himself and one for his friend duncan. It's got Hazey Jane I on it which is a bit spooky 'cos the last one did too. I got another tape too, a demo from a band called CC Baxter. It's not bad - Has anyone heard of them? Ok, enough sinisterines - I want to go home and eat some tomato soup. I hope you can survive squabble-free without my catalystic presence ;-) WeeJay xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx No CD player in the IT centre but the last thing I listened to before leaving the house was Hunky Dory. That last track has VERY B&S lyrics, I think. And 'Queen Bitch' should have been on my tape. Never mind, eh.... James at twopounds.u-net.com "I know there's a lot of bass players in the audience tonight, I know living amongst the constructions that the people in power have built doesn't feel so right" mAKE UP - "We Can't Be Contained" http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Arigreen23 at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 16:07:24 1998 From: Arigreen23 at xxx.com (Arigreen23 at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:07:24 EST Subject: Sinister: B & S on the radio... Message-ID: If anyone in the Princeton/Bucks County area noticed yesterday, the band was on 103.3 (Princeton college radio) almost half the afternoon...first the second half of TBWTAS was played, then the first...then "sinister" (practically the whole album) and then some newer stuff again. it was wonderful. also, that morning i'd played some of the second album for some people in school...one boy thought it was "neat". that's good i guess. la dee da... ari +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at Thu Nov 26 16:14:53 1998 From: Vanessa.Siegl at xxx.at (Vanessa R. Siegl) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:14:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: sorry. 2nd mail finding solace in Belle and Sebastian Message-ID: <50F5F24470A@s06user2.uibk.ac.at> sorry I have forgotten your name .... aaah alexandra Hmmm as I am quite an unhappy person in the world normally I'd definitely think that Belle and Sebastian are very good to listen to when you are unhappy cos they aren't pentrantly (ok ok I don't thibk that this word exists but you know what I mean) uplifting but don't pull you down further so I guess you should lend a cd or two to your friend or make her a tape ... love vanxxx _____________________________________________________ Forgive me for I have not sinned csaa7950 at uibk.ac.at _gapminder at yahoo.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Iangstl at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 16:25:53 1998 From: Iangstl at xxx.com (Iangstl at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 11:25:53 EST Subject: Sinister: Belle & Sebastian for the heartbroken? Message-ID: <722af805.365d8111@aol.com> Alexandra wrote > I've noticed listees casually mentioning finding solace in the music of Belle & Sebastian and I'm wondering if I give her one of the albums, IYFS or TBWTAS, if maybe I'll be pulling her down even further, a fate I don't wish to tempt (believe me, this is the worst I've ever seen, and "suicidal" flickered into my head). Other than "wise" words, and an open ear, music is the only other thing I've turned to. Unfortunately, or fortunately, all my B+S listening experiences have been rather happy, so I cannot tell if I'll be doing the right thing.< As someone who has almost completely recovered from a life-threatening illness which has caused me to be housebound and on oxygen for over 4 months, I can attest to the healing power of B&S. Since smut is low for a girl with tubes in her nose and because words and song last longer than the typical tumble, music is my sanctuary. Also, I find B&S especially appealing for their ability to convey with ease the awkwardness that has plagued me in all my years. I think your coworker will appreciate the honesty and sincerity within the music and not feel so alone being alone. Finally, the sounds of a 30 year old still grappling with awkward innocence shines in a music world grown weary by 20 year old nihilists singing about their wasted years. I highly recommend you give your friend a tape today! About the Mullets..... In my Midwestern world, they are known as bilevels and guys usually got them because its short and "respectable" in the front and long and "rockin" in the back. I guess its their way of being able to hold down that bank job while saying boo to the business world too. So many of you seem so concerned as to the whys of it; thought you might like to know one reason. mwah, Dawn in my cd player: wire's ideal copy in my shoe: my kittens little mousy +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From alan.holding at xxx.fr Thu Nov 26 16:50:50 1998 From: alan.holding at xxx.fr (alan.holding) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:50:50 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Belel & Sebastian for the heartbroken? Message-ID: <001601be195c$fee72780$6e5d8aa4@alan> -----Message d'origine----- De : Alexandra Duric À : sinister at majordomo.net Date : jeudi 26 novembre 1998 15:30 Objet : Sinister: Belel & Sebastian for the heartbroken? > >hello listees, > >Right then, this is one of those delicate subjects.... i'd suggest an Ac/Dc record instead. Maybe "for those about to rock (we salute you)" Always works for me. alan PS: sorry you know who, only joking. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 16:57:42 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:57:42 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Milk Bottle Recycling Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C9D@COR-EXG1> John Warrender wrote : >Dreamy forgotten days when throwing a milk crate full of >empty bottles from the fourteenth floor was the most excitement >anyone could have anywhere in the whole world ever. ~ Or, If you lived in a much more upper class place like me, you would tie cotton round the necks of milk bottles and the other ends to a door knocker. Putting the milk bottles on the roof of this particular houses porch (cos posh places have porches), ring the door bell and stand back and admire you're handy work. Not quite as naughty as John, and not nearly as exciting, but the level of personal injuries was quite high. and then...... >Fucking Hell!!! He's real. Mr Duke is real. >So, can I come and visit >you? Can I stay at your house? Will you introduce me to some >of the nice girl pupils? You can come and stay with me John and then stalk the Duke, I feel this would be much more in keeping with the list. I know someone who lives just round the corner from him, who's front bedroom might just overlook the Dukes. We may be able to rent it out and take some binoculars round for some real fun :) Love Groover Miller wrote some misty water coloured memories including : 1) Adrian Evans claiming that 2 million Scots are permanently pissed Smashing, If there's something to be stepped in, you can guarantee I've got a willing foot. Another favourite of mine was my "Twelve Dead Animals of Xmas" carol in the days when I actually did some fucking work. Sure went down a treat with all you fox lovers :) 6) Mad Dog's shiny apple seduction technique I also remember Struans bar/biscuit problem. I feel the lists needs some more direction from the young pretender. Mummy Linda wrote : >Can I be Chris Leonard? Bloody hell I thought Chris was real. Turns out he's something akin to the poetry Parrot. No Linda, you have to be nominated. And then the Mad Dog himself wrote : >ps anyone want to make a video for dirty dream number two ? The French >label's screaming for one. They'll pay you to do it! >pss hello Chris Leonard Something you're not telling us Chris ? I think that those of us who are already list porn stars should get first refusal. Though I'm not doing anything with onions. Lucy Croxford.x.x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 17:17:12 1998 From: elizabeth.daplyn at xxx.uk (Elizabeth Daplyn) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:17:12 +0000 Subject: Sinister: ooh, wot a lot of email, missus Message-ID: An embedded and charset-unspecified text was scrubbed... Name: not available URL: From MctaggartR at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 16:48:26 1998 From: MctaggartR at xxx.com (Mctaggart, Robert) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:48:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fox felching fun Message-ID: Hello Campers, That's better. Stuart Murdoch wrote: >ps anyone want to make a video for dirty dream number two ? The >French label's screaming for one. They'll pay you to do it! Why don't we all do it? The label can fly us out to Don Pedro Miller's castle in Spain, and armed with cameras and "booms", we can finally make the blockbusting Sinister motion picture. The pitch: Chris Leonard is having a dirty dream, you can tell cos the boxing gloves the doctor made him wear to stop his furious nocturnal activity are cast asunder in his sleep. I can't think what the dream is exactly, but it involves lemurs. With mullets. And Bobby Chariot. The band can piss off, we can play them ourselves. Bagsie I'm Stuart David. Oh and Peter, you were in my dream the other night, you looked like Hungry Hippos Hamilton, only mutated somehow, and you were a right grumpy old bastard. Is it true? This is pish, I think I'll leave. Sorry, just practising. Love, McRagTag xxx PS Duke, for those about to Pop, we salute you. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From billmoss at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 17:36:20 1998 From: billmoss at xxx.com (Bill Moss) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:36:20 EST Subject: Sinister: judy i don't know you & questions... Message-ID: <19981126173623.12730.qmail@hotmail.com> hello, has anyone noticed if you listen closely you can hear two stu's singing 'judy i don't know you if you gonna show me everythin?' i guess it could just leakage during the reording but i think it's cool especially in my headphones. what istrument is playing in the the begining of 'if you're feeling sinister?' it's the one that fades in and out - is that a pedal steel, slide or cello? and who are those kids? also has anyone had a look at b & s's instruments, amplifiers, etc? i'm curious to know what they use and if it's different when they come to the states or if they use voltage adapters? just got back from a glasgow visit where i was able to meet a wee local sinisterine, go to safeway, get all 3 ep's on cd (at john smith's), walk through the park (during the day) and eat loads of bourgeoise pasties and irn-bru (at gregg's bakery - yum :). cheese, bill http://www.geocities.com/~billmoss/main.html ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Thu Nov 26 17:43:15 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:43:15 -0500 Subject: Sinister: judy i don't know you & questions... References: <19981126173623.12730.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <365D9333.965498D4@itl.ca> Bill Moss wrote: > also has anyone had a look at b & s's instruments, amplifiers, etc? i'm > curious to know what they use and if it's different when they come to > the states or if they use voltage adapters? I was also fairly interested in the equipment that B&S use to weave their magic... What sort of electric guitars do they use when they plug in? Anyone who's seen them live and is guitar-literate, care to shed a little light? And I was also wondering what sort of guitars/amps they use to get that gloriously trashy tone on "La Bourgouise..." (sp?). So bad it's good... -- Frank Yang "I told you Joe, it's over. Release me from your kung-fu grip." In my CD player: Emm Gryner - Public +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ecsamenz at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 22:51:55 1998 From: ecsamenz at xxx.uk (Amy) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 17:51:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: introduction Message-ID: i havent posted before, ive been hiding at the end of the playground for a while. but now i would like to say hi. im a bit scared, so i shall not say much this time, just this nice little poem i found in the magnetic poetry book: i picture my shadow falling through a pink lake rose petals swimming she is crying light wind blowing spring barely showing day whispers by and for the moment no thing aches [by alex fogelson] is anybody else here in or near liverpool? amy xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Thu Nov 26 17:58:27 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:58:27 -0500 Subject: Sinister: 6 Degrees of Omar Sharif Message-ID: <365D96C2.43D2B043@itl.ca> Okay, I'm needing a bit of help here from the more worldly of the listees - I'm playing electronic 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon, and have been challanged with Omar Sharif. I have never seen Dr Zhivago or any of Omar's movies, so I'm at a loss. I refuse to give up, and am humbly requesting help from anyone who can connect Omar Sharif to some more recent movies (preferably ensemble casts, but not necessarily). This contest is key to retaining my title of Receptacle of The Most Useless Trivia in The World amongst my immediate group of friends. Sorry for abusing the list. We now return you to your regularly scheduled smut discussions... -- Frank Yang "Mmmm...Sacrelicious!" In my CD player: Emm Gryner - Public +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Mb00EN at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 15:43:54 1998 From: Mb00EN at xxx.com (Mb00EN at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 10:43:54 EST Subject: Sinister: Want to join my band mister! Message-ID: <16eef2c0.365d773a@aol.com> hello list I'm new, well kind of. I was on the list whilst i was at uni, but i forget to unsubscribe, so i bet theres a PC worth of post up-there, oops! Anyway that was a while ago now, so whats happened since then? Well i've grown up and got a job in the 'real world', i've joined a new band, i've no debts anymore, i now prefer pepsi to coke, and i know what belle and sebastian look like. I went to the Nottingham gig, all on my own. If you went i was the one desperately trying to look as if i was part of a big gang, i did this by standing close to the gang in question and nursing a pint of lager, and occasionally i would look around at individual members of this gang and nod. It did'nt work as i just got funny looks of them, this was before they moved away. Usually being alone at a gig would'nt bother me, it's just that the crowd was static and i stuck out like a sore thumb. This gig was the one time that i needed the list, i bet you all met up and had a picnic in the rain or something. I wanted to stick around for the disco thing but i thought better of it, i felt like the sad geek without a date on prom night. I see there's a new EP out soon, you'll never make top of the pops like that. I guess this grounds already been covered but this new music law thing is a really bad problem for 'real' indie bands. I also see there's some new sort of list, (sha-la-la or something). Whats all that about then, friendly or elitism? Thats about it for the time being, grammar never was my strong part, nor is hair dressing. PS I have'nt had chance to tell belle and sebastian that i like their new record, espicially 'sleep the clock around', so i'm telling you know. PPS The sound at the Nottingham gig was very quiet, but it made a nice change from coming away with my ears ringing. Also Elliot Smith was very good, i had'nt heard of him before and i saw him in the crowd afterwords, i presumed he was a local Notts lad, so i was going to ask if he'd be interested in joining my band, luckily i did'nt as he was talking to some people. That would have been embarrasing! +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Thu Nov 26 18:39:00 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:39:00 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: NEW WWW ARCHIVES AND SEARCH Message-ID: There's a completely new format to the archives and searching on the WWW site: I've just made it live, so please go off and take a look and let me know. It's all been done from scratch, and is my sole achievement of the last two months, so at least smile politely, give me a lolly and pat me on the head, even if you think it's not much of a testament to a recently inside-the-house life. You should take this effort on my part as notice that a failure to use the Search and Archives now, on the grounds of laziness, isn't funny anymore. I've spent some time on this, and I really hope it's useful to you all. There have been too many questions asked recently that have been answered 30 times already, and it just leads to the list skating downhill fast, and recently me getting sad enough to not want to bother running this anymore. The WWW site should be your first port of call before your email program, and if it doesn't appear that way from what you post, beware the almighty unsubscribe message from the sky, and a permanent ban. And I'm too tired to deal with appeals. And that Stuart Murdoch can watch it too. Crikey he isn't even subscribed :) Go to the "Archive" and "Search" links from the main page, http://www.majordomo.net/sinister, and expect to see the following: o the monthly archives now split into pages, 100 mails per page, to make them quicker to download; o indexes sorted by subject, date and authors; o custom imitation rolled-gold bathroom taps and lavatory handle; o a vastly speedier search tool, so quick that I believe there's black magic afoot, and am checking the house for funny smells; o lots of different ways to run complex searches, so you too can find out "what that French song Isobel sang was". The Search is pretty customisable now, and if you're ingenious you can find just about anything you want, quickly, that's ever been posted to the list. If you're *not*, well, you can still have some fun putting in rude words and seeing what you find. If you don't want to use the options, just enter the word or phrase you want and hit return. Bear in mind it will only by default match *complete* words. If it all goes wrong, you'll find me blubbing in a corner somewhere, but it looks OK so far. As far as list content recently has been discussed: I won't send on the very nasty mail I composed last night now, but it's kept in reserve under my mattress, if bad 'uns on the list still don't seem to care enough to put some thought before they hit send. It's sort of like the big red button on Homer's control panel in Sector 7G, and when it's pushed down it doesn't come up again. I'm honestly pretty convinced, after putting some time into my appeals for sanity and seeing them ignored, that some of you don't give a damn at keeping this list alive and you're ruining it for the rest of it. So you will be removed. Honey xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Thu Nov 26 16:55:43 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:55:43 +-100 Subject: Sinister: The art of translating.... Message-ID: <01BE1975.54FBAAC0@Abonado-195-53-32-230.cat.es> Mr. Peter Miller wrote: "PS: Jordi, I've had a look at your translations, they look OK to me, just one or two problems, which I'll point out to you tomorrow, probably on the list so that everyone can have a good laugh, if you don't mind." Oh, I?m really feared about what I wrote. I think that you, dear listees, know that my english level is not wonderful, and what I did was basically taken from the dictionaries. I went to the PJ Harvey + Gomez gig last tuesday. Maybe I expected more, but for four or five times the Zeleste club became a frightening place. Chris Leonard wrote: "Teenage Fanclub were ace, it was a very pleasant evening." I saw them at the (one thousand times mentioned) Benicassim Festival, and I agree completely. Before their show, Norman Blake went to a Karts circuit with some bottles of wine behind him. Then, he asked to the press if this was convicted. Nobody answered me why B&S didn?t came to that festival, when they were announced some weeks before the festival dates (8-10 august). I suppose that they had to finish completely "The boy with....", but I?m not sure. Does anybody know if the forthcoming Looper album will be available in Europe (excluding UK) ? Bye. Jordi. In my CD player: "Soidemersol" by La Buena Vida. begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(B(2`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`"@$```"````% ````,``# %````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```'0`````````M3O"P"QW$!JAO @`*RI6PA4```!K%TNW-$O2$;$'1$53 M5 ``1( ```````"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'-I;FES=&5R(&UA:6QI M;F<@;&ES= !33510`'-I;FES=&5R0'!H+F5D+F%C+G5K`!X``C !````!0`` M`%--5% `````'@`#, $````5````2!P`!,Z`0```!@````GOZ/\#``<0[P,``!X`"! !````90```$U24$5415)-24Q,15)74D]413HB M4%,Z2D]21$DL259%2$%$04Q/3TM!5%E/55)44D%.4TQ!5$E/3E,L5$A%64Q/ M3TM/2U1/344L2E535$].14]25%=/4%)/0DQ%35,L5TA)0T@``````@$)$ $` M``"[! ``MP0``- &``!,6D9UE :-;/\`"@$/`A4"J 7K`H,`4 +R"0(`8V@* MP'-E=#(W!@`&PP*#,@/%`@!P)S=&5M`H,S]P+D!Q,"@'T*@ C/"=D" M@ <*@0VQ"V!N9S$P,^XT"OL440OQ( J%"H\8R.!-1\T3TL@`&\@I0> +!G5:G43P" "(+,> MP 6Q='8P.1 M$8 >L1\@9Q]0'P#Q"V!U9V@>< :0'[(9U2ID`B G!4!M"X!D+A8B&6P9U4\J MD4E<)W!B-&T@%A '0"=19G\N8!81'Q &X"51)# ?D4G_'(0;H"_@(/ +@!]P M*',?P3\>< VP"L$G\@G@(,%K;MLF4"AD;2$@"?!G)_$D<.\<4!ZP`R $`" R M@"]Q`B#Q!(%F=6P>< !P'P`OE?L>4#5A800@)R `D"E0+H)]`9!K"? 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L%#H!````$ ```,@))M at XA=(1L0E$15-4```>`#T``0````$`````````3N4! ` end +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Thu Nov 26 20:18:38 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 20:18:38 +-100 Subject: Sinister: The art of translating.... Message-ID: <01BE197E.60B682A0@Abonado-195-53-32-230.cat.es> Mr. Peter Miller wrote: "PS: Jordi, I've had a look at your translations, they look OK to me, just one or two problems, which I'll point out to you tomorrow, probably on the list so that everyone can have a good laugh, if you don't mind." Oh, I?m really feared about what I wrote. I think that you, dear listees, know that my english level is not wonderful, and what I did was basically taken from the dictionaries. I went to the PJ Harvey + Gomez gig last tuesday. Maybe I expected more, but for four or five times the Zeleste club became a frightening place. Chris Leonard wrote: "Teenage Fanclub were ace, it was a very pleasant evening." I saw them at the (one thousand times mentioned) Benicassim Festival, and I agree completely. Before their show, Norman Blake went to a Karts circuit with some bottles of wine behind him. Then, he asked to the press if this was convicted. Nobody answered me why B&S didn?t came to that festival, when they were announced some weeks before the festival dates (8-10 august). I suppose that they had to finish completely "The boy with....", but I?m not sure. Does anybody know if the forthcoming Looper album will be available in Europe (excluding UK) ? Bye. Jordi. In my CD player: "Soidemersol" by La Buena Vida. begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(A,3`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`"@$```"````% ````,``# %````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```'0`````````M3O"P"QW$!JAO @`*RI6PA4```!K%TNW-$O2$;$'1$53 M5 ``1( ```````"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'-I;FES=&5R(&UA:6QI M;F<@;&ES= !33510`'-I;FES=&5R0'!H+F5D+F%C+G5K`!X``C !````!0`` M`%--5% `````'@`#, $````5````2!P`!,Z`0```!@````GOZ/\#``<0[P,``!X`"! !````90```$U24$5415)-24Q,15)74D]413HB M4%,Z2D]21$DL259%2$%$04Q/3TM!5%E/55)44D%.4TQ!5$E/3E,L5$A%64Q/ M3TM/2U1/344L2E535$].14]25%=/4%)/0DQ%35,L5TA)0T@``````@$)$ $` M``"[! ``MP0``- &``!,6D9UE :-;/\`"@$/`A4"J 7K`H,`4 +R"0(`8V@* MP'-E=#(W!@`&PP*#,@/%`@!P)S=&5M`H,S]P+D!Q,"@'T*@ C/"=D" M@ <*@0VQ"V!N9S$P,^XT"OL440OQ( J%"H\8R.!-1\T3TL@`&\@I0> +!G5:G43P" "(+,> MP 6Q='8P.1 M$8 >L1\@9Q]0'P#Q"V!U9V@>< :0'[(9U2ID`B G!4!M"X!D+A8B&6P9U4\J MD4E<)W!B-&T@%A '0"=19G\N8!81'Q &X"51)# ?D4G_'(0;H"_@(/ +@!]P M*',?P3\>< VP"L$G\@G@(,%K;MLF4"AD;2$@"?!G)_$D<.\<4!ZP`R $`" R M@"]Q`B#Q!(%F=6P>< !P'P`OE?L>4#5A800@)R `D"E0+H)]`9!K"? NL -A M)Z,>4&/W(((*P B0L)$A("L at 1P-P97HI M\"QI9RI!(K%T"E!S9-1A>1N at 33R@8A[ +^#X97AP!9 3T!\`)A$B`'\V8"51 M`A %P (0'^$^HFGO'K$@@ >")[):,_ 'D!/0VRE "D!B-F %D&$'@!\1^P-0 M.]!H$] #`!? (X +8&9C,$$9;$-H!1 $($Q>93A2-6$ `C @D0F *2#V0D(!`. G"F $$ =P1E#_ M0'$_8 = -20OX$8@"=$I0/\#<$AA$] G4!N at 37 ^D4NR_&5I!< SD"91![ % ML ."7D(+8#"1X D0!" JP3"1 M!" V, at 6@[&YV.!$)@"X9;%&@!N"^9"$@`'%&XCW14E%H(2#\0B8%\#7Q"Y N M`05 03/_.C,?D2[ 3G8D,#=!(/-&Y'IN,H!U1H O`51#.>!E?FLV45"'76XO\AP3]0`P`SD4^X M1<$GP0;@ZUZ15 $N9H$B/C0MY312YV,`%A!9;41O!Y$`<#T`WUJ",G-8$V#A M%;%H3[%"(OY,'U ]@ 7 !T ^4"XP`_#_)+$]$2F@"W +8"/!*K #H/Y%"'!K M at 4MP/6! P1Y00C&454M-4#\9;$)Y0J^?'B-9;3E6`Z S$4-$0E+E;^!R'@`B M4R3P#; '@%L1H ;P(C9@(2!,'R!"TPI0.& @5C8`85EM=H O<6\:#QC\%3$` M>? ``P`0$ `````#`!$0`0```$ `!S @;CE'0!F^`4 `"# @;CE'0!F^`0(! L%#H!````$ ```,@))M at XA=(1L0E$15-4```>`#T``0````$`````````^.4! ` end +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Thu Nov 26 20:06:53 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:06:53 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Ding Dong is Merry and High Message-ID: <01be1978$50325b80$LocalHost@itjfvkli> Tag wrote: Why don't we all do it? The label can fly us out to Don Pedro Miller's castle in Spain, and armed with cameras and "booms", Yes, yes, that's all very well, but you can sod off, I'm doing it by myself. It's going to be a "claymation" affair, a bit like Wallace and Gromit, only I'm not going to use normal plasticine. The wee figures, who'll get up to all kinds of pop-related high jinks will be called THE JOBBYMEN. How's that for a dirty dream, missus? And I'm going to get one of those Sooty and Sweep pop group machines that you put 2p in and they jerk into action and play a tune and Butch is on drums and suddenly it's the Seventies again and Linda's being bossy and it's FUCKING GREAT! I don't believe that was Mad Dog Murdoch either. Far too low key. The least he could have done was tell us all about the News of the World coming round. What happened to the great tour diary tradition? Is it just too sordid? That was a nail mail, and no mistake. Oh and while I'm in a bad mood, who said that Stout Robin's poem wasn't B&S enough? Eh? I'm waiting....It was very B&S, you can't get much more B&S than silver trousers. Speaking of trousers, where's the mother of all poetry parrots got to? Bloody Sha-La-La, I betcha by golly wow. Tag also said: Oh and Peter, you were in my dream the other night, you looked like Hungry Hippos Hamilton, only mutated somehow, and you were a right grumpy old bastard. Is it true? The second part is true. Paul "Honey" Mitchell wrote: As far as list content recently has been discussed: I won't send on the very nasty mail I composed last night now, but it's kept in reserve under my mattress, if bad 'uns on the list still don't seem to care enough to put some thought before they hit send. It seems a shame to waste it, Paul. Send it to me. Go on. Otherwise I won't let you be the chief JOBBYMAN in my video. They all work in a Jobby Mine, mining for jobbies, and they only get Sundays off. Jordi, perched at the top of an enormous human tower, wrote: Oh, I?m really feared about what I wrote. I think that you, dear listees, know that my english level is not wonderful, and what I did was basically taken from the dictionaries. No need to be feared, Jordi. Most of it is fine anyway, apart from "MAJOR" is a military man of some sort, not the head of the town council, that's "MAYOR", unfortunately. Perhaps the others can help with another problem.....what does "seeing other people" mean? It's not quite going out with, is it? Shagging other people? Is that the same? And to see eye to eye with someon is like to share the same views, to agree with them, something like that. And terry underwear is more than just soft, it's kind of towel material. I think it must be for perverts. Feel free to contribute, it's more fun than grammar. There, that's enough to be going on with. Peter +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tangent at xxx.net Thu Nov 26 19:33:37 1998 From: tangent at xxx.net (duke of harringay) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 19:33:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Welcome Home Mr Duke, Welcome Home References: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B00426223@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Message-ID: <365DAD11.76F0960F@lineone.net> Warrander John - FML wrote: > Fucking Hell!!! He's real. Mr Duke is real. only as real as you want me to be... i can imagine being extraordinarily unreal to some people. most of the kids in fact because i've been bugging them this week, but it's my job so that's okay, isn't it? > You're my hero Mr Duke. hey, don't take the piss... one of my friends once sent me a bit cut out of a dictionary. it was the definition of the word 'Paranoid'. i used to have it pinned on my wall but it fell down and i lost it. Or it might have ended up in the Black Sabbath album sleeve. > Will you introduce me to some > of the nice girl pupils? chance would be a fine thing. they're all Kappa bedecked permed poodles slugging cider down the back of the multi-storey. Belle & Sebastian fans the lot of them... > And I love you Mr Duke. > You can have my list crush any day of the week. i told you already about taking the piss... you better watch it or i'll start on about the Lovin' Spoonful. And for those of you old enough to remember and care about such things, the perpetrator of the crime has since repented and feeds me beer as recompense. It's only fair, after all. I think i told you all that already though. If so, sorry. Evans suggested that you rent out his mates bedroom that overlooks my house and get a pair of binoculars... i'd recommend otherwise. i rarely venture out of the house, modern life being such a hectic drain on energy and besides, people smell. I will be out in the Exeter Waterstones on Dec 16th around 7pm though, so if you want to stalk me, come along and introduce yourself. I'll probably read something amusing about Belle & Sebastian. It's an in-joke at school you know. You know that Wedding Present song 'veryone thinks he looks daft'? That was written about me you know. No really, it was. I used to stand at Weddoes (they used to call them that you know) and shout 'that's about me!' I was reminded of this at the Shepherd Bush belle show because someone in front of me was doing the same thing during 'Stars of Track and Field.' One of the above statements is false. I wonder if his mate is the girl who lives behind our house, and whose bedroom looks into my 'studio'? She dresses with the curtains wide open. it's quite embarassing. i dunno how people do it... i always have to hide behind my monitor. I just listened to both Whistler EPs again and they are lovely, it's true. Someone mentioned them on the Sha-La-La list, and it hought i'd bring it up here. You'd all like them, i swear. Except Brad because they don;t drink blood. Sorry Brad. Who didn't believe that Struan really posted to the list? Shame on you... he's a great big hunk of love and he adores every last one of you with all his gooey heart. Except me obviously because i called his heart gooey and sound like an NME journalist making bad jokes. Sorry. I have been making lots of copies of the Black Sessions and you know what? It still all sounds ravishingly beautiful. Which is it should be. keep the faith my loves. the duke PS. No, seriuosly, who was rude? Or do i have to go and search Honey's new archivey thing and type 'duke is a twat'? ------------------------------------------ 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' ------------------------------------------ Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kmcguire at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 20:58:29 1998 From: kmcguire at xxx.com (that guy mcguire) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 12:58:29 -0800 Subject: Sinister: look at me! i'm a fucking pilgrim. Message-ID: <000101be197f$86334300$dc0db3d1@okcomputer.indierockfuckers.com> thanksgiving day ink polaroid: "look at me! i'm a fucking pilgrim." ok, that's all. i'm not feeling too descriptive so you can make up the rest for yourselves. -kelly ryan bouvier kennedy onassis "all i ever wanted was to finish what i started but there's no way i can do it on my own you have to ship my body home" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Thu Nov 26 21:33:33 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 16:33:33 -0500 Subject: Sinister: skin-calming moisture mask Message-ID: <007601be1984$91d9cc60$631e05d1@tinystar> this winter weather really does a number on my skin, all dry outside and stale air and heating inside. the clinique skin-calming moisture mask is the only thing that saves me from being all red and chapped. a pleasant thought, i know, but it is necessary if i am to be appearing the the new belle and sebastian video (ha, that'll teach you to send open invitations...). i have in mind a rollergirl styled character, lots of bright glimmery eye shadow and hot pants and rollerskates. i could also tow a dog on wheels. i'd like to apologize for the hullabaloo that was caused by my ahren scandal. i really had no idea that it would prompt so many responses and get listies biting rabidly. and thanks to those of you who mailed me your opinions privately, preserving the non-confrontational tone of the list. i'm thrilled by this recent influx of jokes appearing on the list: my personal favourite is Q: What colour is a hiccup? A: Burple. cute, a little filthy, and memorable. has anything been said about the new ep, as to whether or not matador will be releasing it simultaneously in canada? i'm sure it's been said before, and if it has you don't have to answer me as i'm sure i'll find it. and now (da-dummmmm!), for your viewing pleasure, i will write you all a poem. be kind to the moose for his morals are loose he is likely to kill on a whim if you're cruel to your cat or say "i'll eat my hat" these things rouse the murderer in him if you jump on your bed he'll chew off your head (polished off with a side dish of fries) he'll do just the same to any young dame who's as bold as to tell him a lie an so, my dear friend be ye strong, do not bend when they say "he's a harmless creature" for you and i know his deceit will not show until in his supper you feature. i am now going to make some sort of indian brown rice curry thing. i've been craving curry lately in the worst way...i've also been having dreams about kentucky fried chicken, but that's neither here nor there. although if you can tell me what they mean, i'll write a poem about you. oodles of poodles, jessicaxo -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From skg21 at xxx.uk Thu Nov 26 23:24:11 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:24:11 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: I'm just a sweet transvestite from transexual Transylvania In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 26 Nov 1998, Mctaggart, Robert wrote: > The band can piss off, we can play them ourselves. Bagsie I'm Stuart > David. Only if I can be Isobel. No really, I can play the cello a bit and the recorder and everything. And I'm sure I saw some tiger ears in the fancy dress shop yesterday. And I look great in a school skirt... Actually, since you asked (or at least you were going to. No really, you were) the reason I was in the fancy dress shop was because I was looking for a costume (you don't say...) for tomorrow night. I'm off to see the Rocky Horror Show which is in town this week, starring Jason Donovan as Frankie. I've been having severe difficulties finding a costume - I was going to go in the traditional fishnet stockings and suspenders, but I couldn't find any stockings in my size... I still haven't bought it yet, but I think I've decided to go as Rocky. So that means getting a fake tan, dying my hair blond for the night and wearing a pair of gold underpants. And nothing else. If I don't post for a few weeks it's because I've caught pneumonia. Or because all the women in the audience found the sight of my body so alluring that they won't let me go. But that's not very likely really, let's face it. I'll tell you one thing from trying things on in the fancy dress shop though - Genevieve is no longer the only listee to have worn a French Maid outfit. Oh dear, that mental picture has just put 800 listees off their dinner. You all think I'm weird and twisted now, don't you? Oh well, que sera sera... Today's been an interesting day all round really. I was meant to be captaining a university korfball team tonight, so we all met up at 8.30 to cycle out to the sports hall (as it was an away fixture). Only one person didn't have a bike. So he decided to run, while the rest of us cycled. Half way there, we waited for him. Then one person jogged on ahead, leaving her bike for him to use when he caught up. Unfortunately this bike had no pedals, only metal rods, so he couldn't ride it. So I managed to get the pedal-less bike to move, despite it being far too small and my knees being up around my ears, and left him my bike. Which he couldn't ride, because it was too big for him. So we ended up with one person who had jogged on ahead arriving by foot, then 2 people who had biked on ahead, then me on the bike with no pedals, then one person riding his bike and pushing mine along with him, and then the original runner still on foot. Oh yeah, and the other 2 members of the team who had driven there from the other side of town, but then had to leave 15 minutes before the end of the game to get to another match elsewhere. Funnily enough, we lost... Well before I incur the wrath of Honey for a long completely off-topic post, can I just say that list crushes will be returning with avengeance, in a new improved form, in the next couple of days. Watch this space... Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From plaird at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 01:04:54 1998 From: plaird at xxx.uk (Paul Laird) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 98 01:04:54 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Oi mullets... No! Message-ID: <199811270103.BAA29525@sioux.netdirect.net.uk> Hi kids, Tami(TFertig3) said in a list thingie: >5. We like cheese. Well, at least I like cheese, and I think others do to, >since I started that string of cheese content a bit back. For some reason it >died out though. That's a shame. Cheese is beautiful. Maybe the cheese thread is just maturing in a dark warehouse somewhere. BTW Anyone tried Scamorza (smoked Mozzarella)? Yum. Coincidentally, It was me who started the Mullet thread the last time the list discussed it (believe me we've covered mullets in great depth already). Did anybody else feel a little Deja-vu-ish over the resurgence of that dreaded haircut? The Duke (welcome back!) told us: >I just listened to both Whistler EPs again and they are lovely, it's >true. Someone mentioned them on the Sha-La-La list, and it hought i'd >bring it up here. You'd all like them, i swear. Except Brad because they >don;t drink blood. Sorry Brad. So what's this Sha-La-La list nonsense all about? So far I have imagined it would be like chatting with your old 'mate' who's WAY too much into old McCarthy records, Flying Nun bands (etc.) for his own good... i.e. time to swerve.:o) (call me Super)Brad cheered me up with his usual filth and also said: >and, hoo boy, remember when duke went mental and started extolling the >virtues of stryper. he was even thinking of naming his book "to hell >with the devil" 'til pjmiller talked him out of it. Hee-Hee. Us list oldsters know it wasn't Stryper but a certain '60s pop group and boy were we scared. Hey, I'm still scared of the old boy. Treat him with respect kids. I prefer the list when he's around. Nice to see a band member mailing again. I wonder how often they read our nonsense... ...Hey Murdoch, how about playing properly in Scotland then - you know, THE PLACE WHERE YOU LIVE??? Tootle-pip, The Lairdster (SCOTLAND) 'An EGG is good for you' - THE EGG Marketing Board +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From atieger at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 02:00:51 1998 From: atieger at xxx.com (aaron tieger) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 18:00:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: smut and turkey, of a sort Message-ID: <19981127020051.14544.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com> All I want to say about thanksgiving, besides hoping everyone had a tolerable one, is that the realization that your young nieces, the ones who you remember being born, now have the phrase "blowjob" as a part of their working, informed vocabulary is certainly a shock. Especially when they seem to blossom even more each time you see them. Is 24 too old to feel like a dirty old man? aaron ps- are there any closet metallers on the list? === atieger at rocketmail.com auger/anvil Give me the sense to wonder... _____________________________________________________________________ Sent by RocketMail, free e-mail for the planet. * Visit & explore Cybersmith at http://www.cybersmith.com * Get your web-based e-mail at http://www.rocketmail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From jgj201 at xxx.edu Fri Nov 27 02:22:21 1998 From: jgj201 at xxx.edu (Jason G Juzwiak) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 21:22:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Sharif to Bacon Message-ID: Omar Sharif was in "Doctor Zhivago," with Julie Christie, who was in the Branagh "Hamlet," with Jack Lemmon, who was in "JFK" wif...the inimitable Kevvy B. Julie Christie....wow. No B&S content...if this were the Dandy Warhols list they'd have me burned at the stake. Actually, no, wait. I got LLPJ the other day...hmm...after a couple spins, I reverted to Arab Strap. Actually, that's a lie. I put in "The Best of Blondie." Jonny Kat can attest to that. Did Mr. Murdoch actually ask for someone to direct a "Dirty Dream #2" video for the French? eeeeeee! I can do that. My favorite songs always end up making a video pop into my head, and then the actual video comes out and I'm always disappointed cos mine are always SO MUCH BETTER. Returning to lurking, Cheers Jay ---------------- "Son, you don't have bad luck. The reason that bad things happen to you is because you're a dumbass." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From gary at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 02:30:17 1998 From: gary at xxx.uk (Gary Done) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 02:30:17 -0000 Subject: Sinister: "YOU'RE GOING ON AFTER CRISPY AMBULANCE". In-Reply-To: <199811250324.DAA28892@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <000001be19ad$e00df400$fa0f93c3@whelan> Little Fluffy Sarah wrote.... "Kirstie wrote: >hahaha--i just wanted to say that this made me laugh--hehe--and by the >way--when i was like in 3rd grade---i had a pretty bad mullet hairdo--and then >it got worse in the 4th grade HAHAHA! Kirstie, do not worry, you are not the only one to have sported the mullet! I am sure Gary, known to many as MULLET RA can give you some brilliant advice on counselling the loss of a mullet - and also clashing luminous socks and pink tshirts. OOOOOOW the eighties. Thank topper my parents dressed me in pretty little skirts all the time so I didn't look a complete twat.... um, not that anyone else did of course....heheh!" Right that's it. Revealing my past mullet crimes I could live with, but you've gone too far this time. Besides pink T-shirts didn't come into fashion until at least a year after the mix and match lumo sock fiasco. Don't forget Fluffyone, I have a roll of film, with a number of shots of you on it, most probably looking a right twat in them as well. So watch it.... Right, now, my advice for getting over the loss of a mullet. Is to go out and get yourself a bubble perm, a tank top, a pair of purple flares and some Jesus sandals. If it doesn't get you laughing, it will get your friends laughing and take their minds off the fact that you had a mullet. *WARNING* It may take a few months for the mullet to grow out long enough to get your perm done. May I recommend a bobble hat in the mean time. I'M GOING NOW BYE Gary +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 04:04:52 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 23:04:52 EST Subject: Sinister: happy thanksgiving Message-ID: hey kids just wondering: what do B&S think of their fans who record their shows for personal use (or to share with other B&S fans) - i know most bands dont care, that it's their managers/record labels who have the shitfits over it. but if it's jsut fans taping the show and making cassette copies for other bands, then what does B&S think about it? also have B&S thought of taping the shows themselves and doing ala Wedding present (ie, selling copies of the shows to fans via the fanclub service, etc - limited edition runs with a nice cassette cover, etc) - not only would the band get a little extra cash, but most importantly it'd be a nice gesture for the fans, but alas very few bands do this, in fact only the Weddoes and Billy Bragg do anything along this feature that I can think of off-hand, I always wonder why more bands don't do this. after thanksgiving we went to an uncle's house and i bought 4 cds for $5 each, i felt like i majorly scored. i bought: 2 Elvis CDs Vera Lynn - "How Lucky You Are" compilation (Decca/President Records, '89) _The White Cliffs of Dover_ ("Wartime favorites") - soprano Isobel Buchanan with the English Chamber Orchestra (UK import as well) ooh these discs just sizzle. xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Fri Nov 27 12:02:11 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 04:02:11 -0800 Subject: Sinister: My own PhotoJenny Message-ID: <004a01be19fd$c5329780$1a11020a@rebelstrange> *tteehee* stuart m posted i'm so impressed, now i believe in miracles. *hello hello*! soemone said nobody ever says anythign about mick or sarah, so i'll say something, i said it the other day, mick inspired me to pick up my instrument, not too shabby that! he is rather cute i think, his hair is nice and he looks very dapper indeed. and what brassy tones, the trumpet is truly king of brass. and sarah is my hero, officially, and the nicest person in teh world, because she put us on the guest list in DC, and she has a nice blue sweater, and violins are great, and she looked cuter than a ladybug in the wicked vid sitting up all by her lonesome in the tree, and it makes me smile. i have a picture of me and sarah in teh same shot, i think that says it all, i'm so impressed with myself. EEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeuuu it's 3-30 am and i'm shivering with cold i just got home and have slugged thru four whole digests. GAD! nice to see the mythical Duke at last. finally, some royalty on the list. erm--i have a story, it's minutiae, but i like minutiae. so shoot me. i went back to my hometown for the holiday and went out with my oldest friends to their university town (shite town, but it has more things in it than mine) cos they wanted to go to a coffeeshop where they are aspiring to be 'regulars' and make friends. i drove because i like being in control of the tape deck and i played b&s the whole way there and they didn't seem to be as impressed as i was. but in any case we were in this silly coffeehouse with a bunch of Hep college kids in berets and old guys playing poker and silly paintings on teh wall and guitars that you could only borrow if you had an SIU ID (crap!! i would have played is it wicked or something cool) and i was asking where are all the cool babes that i can pick up on and get a date. no prospects looked quite interesting to me, but my friend pointed over yonder and said "maybe that girl in the grey sweater" and lo and behold if she doesnt' know what does it for me, this girl ws the vision of an indie pop princess, with her jean seberg haircut (dark reddish brown) and Isobel features, and mousy grey delicately ribbed sweater with a thin straight-in the back collar/lapel thingy, like they dont' make anymore. she was sitting reading all the time we were intherre, or looking at papers, all by herself, except when she talked to a guy in a fuzzy beret. she looked just like Amelia from Heavenly and i couldn't stop staring. it was quite shameful. by that time i was on a caffeine high and physically trembling. my friends thought i was ridiculous, but i pulled out my little disposable camera , the one i had *intended* for the b&s show, and as i had some shots to waste in it, i took my chances, waited for the guy in front of my view to get up, and leaned over behind the glass entryway and shot a picture of my Photo Jenny, quick as you please. she was never the wiser i'm sure, she was so intent on what she was looking at and had this lovely almost peaceful half-smile on her face, she was incredibly elegant, but i was too stupid to go talk to her because it would be so obvious("i've seen you around, i find you quite atractive, would you go to bed with me?") i mean how do you do that casually and coolly? besides that i looked like a leper and she would have spit on me anyway. so even though my (totally straight) friends "knew" that she was "bicoastal", i could not be convinced to introduce myself, or to toss a copy of my shabby zine into her placid hands. i left in infamy and defame, having lowered myself to the lowest of the low, an instant stalking, a stealing of image. how will i get her to strike a pose? indeed!!! now as i try to rest from my stressful holiday of family terror and depressing-as-hell scenarios, my own photo jenny is what comforts me. if only i was not too bashful i could have been something. does anyone think it's incredibly sick to take a photo of a stranger? if you all dont' want to talk to me now, i will understand, because it would be quite reasonable to fear for your privvacies and safeties in teh face of a lunatic like me.. i admit!! i did it!! it was shyness made me do it! grovel, grovel. sigh. she is so beautiful. i was entranced beyond my usual acute faculties. Gawd, after all that talk of finding a girl who looks like Isobel! i suppose i was only starting a trend by shoving my camera in ms campbell's face for an hour, and now i'msneaking photos of strange jean seberg types wherever i can find them, because i'm just too sad to be given the time of day, or so i believe. forget it. this story ends HERE Oh im' quite impressed that murdoch's shiny apple seduction has made into a top ten. i think that's incredibly lovely. i have no interest in ahren or grammar(much) but i choose to skate over it. it hastn' bothered me terribly, not nearly enough to quit the lovely list. i love all of you. kiss kiss. isn't it all about fuzzy hugs and loving and the middle eighth of Mary Jo? "Photo Jenny" is the belle and sebastian equivalent of heroin. it has me shaking in my boots and howling at the bold stars, uncomfortable in my own skin and knowing that satiation is not earthly attainable and the oh you know i forgot some but i have rambled too long so more tomorrow i won't trouble you lovely kittens with my trivial life. lesley Jo --in whom the tragedy of Joan of Arc can inspire copious amounts of tears, and does. they call me a tomboy and i love it cos only a tomboy can stand above it by simply changing +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 11:26:08 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:26:08 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Duke of Stratosphear In-Reply-To: <365C42AF.54854131@lineone.net> Message-ID: <000b01be19f8$ba4747d0$4e0129c2@sun.QSS> okay, so i just heard from Honey that one of you lot has been, and i quote, "spectacularly rude" about me. Who was it? Tag? You said you would forget about that faux pas in the Empire foyer. Keith? I thought we'd sorted that problem over our disagreement about the limited edition signed Arab Strap 'toys'. I certainly sent back the ones you didn't want, maybe you didn't get the refund? Or was it the Miller man? I told you i wouldn't hold you personally responsible, didn't i? No, it wasn't me being rude, not as far as I'm aware Mr.Harringay. I have no idea WHO it was mind you. My mail is back and alive again at work or so it seems for the moment, sorry to everyone who's written to me and may conceivably not have had a reply - as I say mail at work has been dodgy recently and I know some mails haven't got through. Read your book Duke. It was interesting, although I'd read quite a lot of it before on your website. By the way, anyone who wants to mail me can do so now at the following address which is at home and therefore in a different place : k.watson at cableinet.co.uk Indeed Tag is right about the list and stuff. I have a birthday too you know. Does anyone else on the list have a birthday? What's your favourite round thing? Etc. etc. Hate to say it but it does seem to be pretty dull these days. The list was much better in the old days, when the fans were REAL and the people writing to the list were BETTER like when Moses used to pitch in with his comments about Stuart's early tracks like "Missed the bus lost my mess" . Liked Martin Horsefield's bit about casuals, that was quite factual that. A bit like having your very own discovery channel on the list. As regards the other pressing subject of the day, The WHO, I don't know what more I can add to the current debate. I could I suppose recount the entire story from 30 Years of Maximum R&B. Hey, maybe I will... who knows. Let it be known however that The WHO are a wonderful band WHO should be checked out by WHOever feels the inclination. Mark and Vicky, if you're in Edinburgh, give me a call if you like on 0131 228 9924 and we shall pop out for a drink, or mail me on the above address (or work today). Has Rodddddddddddney not made it as far as Boston yet, surely he's got himself "wired for mail" as Sir Cliff would have put it. Has he not joined this list again. We could all mail him to and beg him to on rod at begbie.com to which I'm sure he reads quite frequently. Tag wrote: >How come I've just had more digests in 24 hours than ever before and yet the only thing I feel inspired to write is "unsubscribe sinister-digest"? Well don't bloody well write it to the list Tag, ensure that you send it to the proper address. There's nothing worse than the likes of you just sending your unsubscribe messages to the list to get attention. The thing that bores me most at the moment seems to be the never ending stream of mails since the recent LP came out saying stuff about how they love (insert member of band) and how they've got sexy (fill in whatever), it's just like the letters that Helen Gibson receives on the Sex Show on Live TV (Dear Helen, your show is great, but when are *you* going to show us your sexy feet). - Ian, I take it Mick has received proper neat printouts of all the stuff regarding his sexy arms and stuff. Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From AEvans at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 11:33:49 1998 From: AEvans at xxx.uk (Adrian Evans) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 11:33:49 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Robin Asquith Message-ID: <25CC9C11BD12D111BA5500805F8B63691C7C9F@COR-EXG1> Dear all, I just had a flash of inspiration for a French promo-vid for Dirty Dream #69. Obviously being French, the label would be expecting (and clearly the band) some sort of filth for the masses to toss off to. I think it would be much cleverer to give them something unmistakebly British, and in keeping with the style of the song....A "Confessions" video. Keith Watson would be perfect for the Robin Asquith role, but I think given the circumstances, we could have Johnboy Warrender as a window-cleaner, trying to find the Dukes house, working his way up the road. Perhaps in one window, Mad Dog with some gorgeous lass, but unable to remove his silver pants. In window two Isobel playing the cello in the buff, her naughty bits hidden by her instrument of doom. In window three Ragbag McTag who wants to be Stuart D, derobing in front of wee Karn only for the real Stuart D to return home from a hard day at the office, and pursuing the blighter round the bedroom. In window four wee hairy Chris is having a game of pocket billiards while admiring his stolen sidies in the mirror. In window five Linda is giving Honey the brush-off because Bobby Chariots on the telly. In window six there is noone there but the window cleaner turns round to see David and Katrina playing nude swingball in the garden. etc etc etc. mmmmmmmmmmmm...I was never any good at endings. Just for laughs.... A transcript of the new answering service installed at the Mental health institute. "Hello, and welcome to the mental health hotline...... * If you are obsessive-compulsive, press 1 repeatedly. * If you are co-dependent, please ask someone to press 2 for you. * If you have multiple personalities, press 3, 4, 5 and 6. * If you are paranoid, we know who you are and what you want. Stay on the line so we can trace your call. * If you are delusional, press 7 and your call will be transferred to the mother ship. * If you are schizophrenic, listen carefully and a small voice will tell you which number to press. * If you are a manic-depressive, it doesn't matter which number you press, no-one will answer. * If you are dyslexic, press 9696969696969. * If you have a nervous disorder, please fidget with the hash key until a representative comes on the line. * If you have amnesia press 8 and state your name, address, phone number, date of birth, social security number and your mother's maiden name. * If you have post-traumatic stress disorder, slowly and carefully press 000. * If you have bi-polar disorder, please leave a message after the beep or before the beep. Or after the beep. Please wait for the beep. * If you have short-term memory loss, press 9. * If you have short-term memory loss, press 9. * If you have short-term memory loss, press 9. * If you have short-term memory loss, press 9. * If you have low self esteem. Please hang up. All our operators are too busy to talk to you. Thankyou and goodnight. Adrian.x. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From parachute at xxx.net Fri Nov 27 11:49:46 1998 From: parachute at xxx.net (brad) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 06:49:46 -0500 Subject: Sinister: sons of showaddywaddy Message-ID: <365E91DA.163E@earthlink.net> dukey wrote: > okay, so i just heard from Honey that one of you lot has been, and i > quote, "spectacularly rude" about me. Who was it? it was me you snivelling little girl. i said some things. and i'll say them again. and maybe a third time if you rile me up again with all your jasmine minks rubbish. and since when do i like bands who drink blood? bah humbug! i like my bands to be a bit more, shall we say, daring. speaking of daring, i watched a g.g. allin documentary today and he, among other things, crapped on stage, licked it, rubbed it on his face and his naked body, and threw it at the crowd. that's what i want more of at shows. i would make some crude isobel joke here about her spastic colon, but i choose not to. besides, what if she's reading all these things i'm writing about her...then i'll never get her in the sack. oh, and i popped 'round the archives and read what i missed whilst unsubscribed. well, not all of it, but things that had my name in them, to make sure none of you were being "spectacularly rude" about me. here's what i found: > Is brad really off the list?? too bad, he wrote the funniest things. > Well i guess he will never know about the enormous but anonymous list > crush I had on him. It's just between the 700+ of you and me, alright? don't worry.....he'll never find out. and i also found this: > Holy crap! i just heard the new phish album and it rocks, dude! > -duke and this is the guy you worship so much? sheesh! black, white, and red all over, -brad p.s. duke, if you still want that tape, let me know. i've been real slack about it..sorry. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fyang at xxx.ca Fri Nov 27 13:38:50 1998 From: fyang at xxx.ca (Frank Yang) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 08:38:50 -0500 Subject: Sinister: TIJAMRS in Canada References: <007601be1984$91d9cc60$631e05d1@tinystar> Message-ID: <365EAB6A.872C1340@itl.ca> jessica wrote: > has anything been said about the new ep, as to whether or not matador > will be releasing it simultaneously in canada? i'm sure it's been said > before, and if it has you don't have to answer me as i'm sure i'll > find it. I asked Katrina this a while back, and she said it would NOT be released in Canada, or North America for that matter. What would be happening is MAtador would get a few copies that they would probably sell through their own stores. Canada will have to import copies directly from Jeepster in the UK. I'm not sure if this was the deal with the other EPs from last year. Just to be sure, I ordered a copy from Jeepster (along with an IYFS t-shirt... anxiously awaiting the mail...), though it'll probably be available at the usual outlets (Penguin, HMV-333) just after release for $15 or so. I just wanted mail from overseas... On a like topic, I've a question about the various editions of IYFS. Are the copies in the US being distributed by Matador being pressed by Matador? That is, the booklets have Matador logos, the CDs are hecho in America, etc? Cause Canada still seems to be getting only the Jeepster editions, and they're freaking expensive... $30 for IYFS, anyone? It'd make more sense to me for CAnadian outlets to get Matador editions from the US, thus shaving about $5-$8 off the sticker price... but that's just me. I've already got a copy, but I'm thinking about all those potential B&S fans who are turned away by the high sticker price... I know I was for the longest time - I wanted the record but kept looking for a cheaper price. Took me a year, but I got mine for $12 after trading in a bunch of CDs and racking up about $13 in credit... Once again, it seems Canadians are getting the short end of the proverbial B&S stick... Yes, I'm still sore about the cancelled concert... And thanks to everyone who helped out with the Omar Sharif trivia - I rocked that one. Apologies again for the wildly off-topic post, won't be happening again. I'll try to economize B&S bandwidth in the future. And as for the 'Dirty Dream #2' video, I vote for a Puff Daddy-esque clip with helicopters, speedboats and gunplay. Lots of gunplay. I think Isobel would look wicked brandishing a Glock. -- Frank Yang Belle & Sebastian are gettin' jiggy wit' it. In my CD player: Dubstar - Goodbye +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr Fri Nov 27 15:11:33 1998 From: Philippe.Garnier at xxx.fr (Philippe Garnier) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:11:33 Subject: Sinister: The frenchie speaks again Message-ID: <3.0.5.16.19981127151133.328729ae@chimie.u-strasbg.fr> Hello sweet listees, I've not finished reading all your messages, but among the thousands of posts received from Sinister, this one is by Kin : >What has happened to our darling resident French wit, Philippe? I guess >he must be really busy earning the title of "Doctor Philippe". But I and >I'm sure many others do miss his surreal and hilarious postings. Come >back to us, Philippe! Philippe still has got his L and his 2 P's, but he has to wait a few more weeks before being called Doctor Philippe (is sounds like a DJ name, isn't it ?). Kin, I have received your tapes, and I'm doing the best that I can to send you mine as quick as possible. Sorry for the delay. Be sure that it has nothing to do with the defeat of the french rugby team against Australia. For Jim and the american listees : I've just sent a new copy of the worlwide known black session (it seems that the first one that I sent before is lost between France and Los Angeles). That's really strange, because Newt Gingrich told me that he got his copy and he really likes it (now he has got plenty of time to listen to it, and his doctor told him that cool music was good for his nerves). For the supporters from Arsenal: I am really sorry, I am not responsible for the defeat against Lens. I've read the book by Nick Hornby (Fever Pitch) and I do love the gunners. At least I like the french players and the manager... To Stuart Murdoch : my friend Lauren wants to mary you, so please email me privately in order to arrange this affair. Lauren is a beautiful girl, she can speak french and German perfectly (and english of course), and she likes my noddles with the roquefort sauce, which proves that she is really the most perfect girl a boy can imagine. By the way, I wish to mary Isobel. So, if you can help me, please don't hesitate... Has averyone read Lauren's translation of my review of the black session on the Bernard Lenoir's web ? Stuart asks who wants to be on the video for dirty dream : I WANT !! You don't need to pay me for that. Alain Delon was chosen by Morrissey to be on the sleeve for The Queen Is Dead, so the less that i can do is to be on a belle and sebastian video. I am always very brilliant and tasty on videos. Has anyone ever watched the video of my holidays in Grece 4 years ago, you know, the famous sequence when I am running completely naked on this lovely beach of the Hydra Island ? Coming back to the L and P's story, I think that I have to become more openminded. I was used to put the shame on each listee who wrote my name wrongly (Phillip, Phillippe, Filip, Pheelip...), but I have to tell you that two emeritus members of Belle & Sebastian chose to call me "Phillipe". Yes, Isobel and Stuart David both prefer calling me Philippe, and it really makes my day! So, I do declare that two spellings will be accepted now : Philippe, and Phillipe. I was told that people from the marketing division were releasing the Beatles' White Album again, because it is supposed to be the 30th anniversary. I have never heard about this band, the Beatles. I don't think they are well known apart from Britain. Mayby a little in the US, but I am not sure. Is it a good band ? My friends don't understand why I am staying in my car, completely frozen on the parking lot besides my laboratory every morning. But I can't imagine switching off my belle&sebastian tape before the end the songs! My monkey tells me "Say hello to the listees", so : Hello listees !! A bientot, Philippe-Phillipe +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 14:17:48 1998 From: C.Wyplosz at xxx.uk (Wyplosz,C) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:17:48 -0000 Subject: Sinister: black session question Message-ID: <116DF9642B30D1119D530000F800DC37021ADC8D@exchs3.lse.ac.uk> I don't know on which album it is, but it was written for the Eurovision contest in the mid 60s. Perhaps you can find a EUrovision Compilation on which this song features... I don't know. Clem > ---------- > From: GaoBest at xxx.com] > Reply To: GaoBest at aol.com > Sent: Wednesday, 25 November 1998 16:09 > To: sinister at majordomo.net > Subject: Re: RE: Sinister: black session question > > > > In a message dated 11/25/98 3:34:56 AM, C.Wyplosz at lse.ac.uk wrote: > > < de > son>> > > Does anyone know which album this is from, i have a few France Gall LPs > but I > can't recall if this song is on it. If it's on her compilatio albums then > i > probably definitely have it - i just now want to hear that original > version! > > incidentally when i was in New Orlenas, i had the song "The Night" (which > is > Pulp's cover from _their_ 1992 black session) stuck in my head most of the > time. it was frustrating 'cause i didn't have my '92 black session tape > with > me when i was there, so i'd be walking around thinking of "The night" and > how > much i love that song. sigh. > > xox > mike > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 14:41:29 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:41:29 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fancy a nibble on my john belle and sebastian Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0042622A@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Hello People, Wouldn't that nice little man Tag make a good school teacher? I think so, but then Tag is one of my many lovers and I'm always very, very nice to my lovers. I hope we all are. The Duke could have been my latest lover but he thinks I'm taking the piss: >hey, don't take the piss... >i told you already about taking the piss... Why so Mr Duke? Have you got one of them self loathing complexes? Of course I love you. I've even started my stalking campaign. Well, I'm stalking the archives. So far I've found an interesting euphemism which may pertain to oral sex of some form or another. Since I'm not too sure on the matter I'll keep quiet for now. I wouldn't want to cause any unnecessary blushes. I'll be taking you up on your kind offer though Adrian. Very soon. Anyway, was The Lovin' Spoonful brandished as a threat? >you better watch it or I'll start on about the Lovin' Spoonful. There's nothing I like better than a good natter about t'Spoonful. I carried a picture of John B Sebastian around the world with me and kept it very close to my heart at all times. I even painted the frame gold. One of the most memorable events of my entire life was seeing John Sebastian play live in Manchester a few years ago. He played a very small room and about twenty people shuffled in and took a chair and then the great man came out onto the stage and played for about two hours. He kept telling stories of the "old" days in "The Village" and would play blues songs by his heroes of the time which would magically transform into Lovin' Spoonful songs before you had a chance to even notice what was going on. It was a night of incredible beauty and the only occasion when I have actually been moved to tears by a live performance. I really think I felt genuine love for that man standing on that stage that night. I'm a bit of a wimpy poof really. Sorry. Anyway, I'm feeling all dreamy now and since a younger girl keeps rolling 'cross my mind I'd better be off to the bathroom to er, relieve myself. Toodle pip pop kids, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 14:44:36 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:44:36 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Teenage Fanclub Message-ID: I saw Teenage Fanclub play at the Radio One Road show in Aberystwyth some years ago. It was a really grim day and hardly anyone came. Bitty McClean sang "If it's raining it's raining" with his umbrella then vanished into obscurity, then, after Smiley Miley's Milage Game, on came the Fanclub. They played on the roof of the stage for some reason. I suppose the roadshow people thought it would be "cool" or "groovy" but it just meant that we couldn't see any of them. Still, they sounded great and we gave them a big cheer. All 25 of us. Now I was going to say something very B&S, but, taking the advice of the Honey Bunny, I checked the archives first and it was already there. Gaah, your search engine is too good! Actually I'd never really had a look at the archives before and as i was looking I stumble across lots of dead interesting stuff, like a piece by Nick Hornby, and various press releases by the band, so I'm feeling pretty chuffing chuffed at the moment. Now I must go. Bye Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 14:55:38 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 14:55:38 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: trumpsters Message-ID: Oh dear, first I'm a good listee, checking the archives and stuff, and now I send two posts one after the other. Oh well, you have to live life on the edge I suppose. So, this thought just popped into my head. I play the trombone myself and i was wondering if Mick Cooke is solely a trumpeter? Most brass players can turn their hands to different brass instruments easily enough. So I'll be listening out for a sousaphone solo on the next e.p., or how about a cover of the theme from "Johnny Briggs" played on flugelhorn and slide trombone? Nice. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From keith at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 15:01:02 1998 From: keith at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:01:02 -0000 Subject: Sinister: trumpsters In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001be1a16$c0327ed0$4e0129c2@sun.QSS> Oh dear, first I'm a good listee, checking the archives and stuff, and now I send two posts one after the other. Oh well, you have to live life on the edge I suppose. So, this thought just popped into my head. I play the trombone myself and i was wondering if Mick Cooke is solely a trumpeter? Most brass players can turn their hands to different brass instruments easily enough. So I'll be listening out for a sousaphone solo on the next e.p., or how about a cover of the theme from "Johnny Briggs" played on flugelhorn and slide trombone? Nice. I'm sure he can, indeed I remember him turning his sexy hands to the French Horn a while back for "I know where the summer goes". There's another B+S French connection. No wonder the French like Belle and Sebastian a lot. Mick gives them the French Horn. For your FAQ information, Mick also plays guitar, keyboards, and with himself. Is anyone else getting all the messages from the mailing list delivered twice at the moment, or is it just me? Cheers, Keith. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From wizzcake at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 15:13:05 1998 From: wizzcake at xxx.com (gateau du wizz) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 07:13:05 -0800 (PST) Subject: Sinister: OK - a reminder Message-ID: <19981127151305.20966.rocketmail@send1e.yahoomail.com> OKAY - DON at T FORGET about the gathering at chez lady p's on sunday.....from 3pm-ish to a good bit later (10-ish / 11-ish).... 77 holmewood gardens, brixton hill, london sw2. brixton tube then bus 45, 133, 109, 159 up brixton hill and get off at the first stop in zone three...take the first left (holmewood road) off brixton hill and continue until you get to holmewood gardens...my house is on the right hand side of the gardens opposite the swings and has a pretty green door and an unruly hedge. see y'all there i hope. please bring nibblies and drinkies and partridges in pears trees (optional). la la la, padraic / lady penelope, gateau du wizz. ***************************************************** OH!!!! don't tell anyone but i have lovely new york bootlegs....lovely lovely smashing and delightful! thanks to the *fabu* listee who provided these gems! ***************************************************** _________________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ian.thompson at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 15:45:37 1998 From: ian.thompson at xxx.uk (Ian D. Thompson) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:45:37 +0000 Subject: Sinister: master of the egg-yverse Message-ID: <3.0.1.32.19981127154537.006c7bb0@pop-hub.strath.ac.uk> listeefolk, >Keith in his wisdom wrote - Ian, I take it Mick has received proper neat printouts of all the stuff regarding his sexy arms and stuff. Well, kindof. I mentioned it to him and he rushed off to find the articles in the archives. We plan to decorate the lounge with super-enlarged versions of the best and most complimentary mailings. I can also make most of you dead jealous by letting you know we got a hold of the promo copies of the new EP this week, icky brown cover and all. Production on TIJAMRS is not too hot, but the song is great and you kind of dont notice the production too much. Its good to hear early B&S stuff. Cant say I'm too keen on the Gate, but thats just me. Anyone who wasnt in Edinburgh last weekend at the Egg and missed out on getting their very own belly signature from Mick should drop me a line, and as long as you bribe me with enough beer and send the requisite amount of lollipops, I'll see if I cant sort something out. Ian in my CD player - TIJAMRS +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lapis at xxx.edu Fri Nov 27 15:48:21 1998 From: lapis at xxx.edu (dave cohen) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:48:21 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: black session question (fwd)/Gall Message-ID: <199811271548.KAA06858@pobox.upenn.edu> it is on: Poupee de Son (polydor 849296-2) or France Gall (polygram 839627-2) both are yummy comps of her early (best) material the Poupee cd has 5 more tracks... --d > > > > In a message dated 11/25/98 3:34:56 AM, C.Wyplosz at lse.ac.uk wrote: > > > > < > de > > son>> > > > > Does anyone know which album this is from, i have a few France Gall LPs > > but I > > can't recall if this song is on it. If it's on her compilatio albums then > > i > > probably definitely have it - i just now want to hear that original > > version! > > > > incidentally when i was in New Orlenas, i had the song "The Night" (which > > is > > Pulp's cover from _their_ 1992 black session) stuck in my head most of the > > time. it was frustrating 'cause i didn't have my '92 black session tape > > with > > me when i was there, so i'd be walking around thinking of "The night" and > > how > > much i love that song. sigh. > > > > xox > > mike > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rap101 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 16:54:49 1998 From: rap101 at xxx.uk (Archel) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:54:49 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: therapy? Message-ID: hello sinisterines. you're making my eyes hurt but i love you anyway. hey, that could almost be a song title. alexandra - although b&s are not happy happy, they are therapeutic because they affirm life, in all its minutiae (however inappropriate such things may be on a list of 800 people...). b&s are about someone caring enough to write songs about the little people, which is why i love them. abstract depression/self-indulgence is not good for a broken heart, but boys on bikes and girls dreaming of horses can be. yesterday i played a game with my friends - things we learned today. i think this might transfer quite well onto the list. to start you off : today i learnt that library books about the unification of italy are very heavy and quite boring. squinting, archel xxx ------------------------------------------------------------------- Rachel Playforth rap101 at york.ac.uk http://members.tripod.com/~RPlayforth/welcome.htm ------------------------------------------------------------------- "Nobody can be uncheered with a balloon." +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From WarranderJ at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 17:14:26 1998 From: WarranderJ at xxx.uk (Warrander John - FML) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:14:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream #Cum Video Message-ID: <51F7EB9834B0D011B56C0000F8303B0042622D@gateway.finnigan.co.uk> Stuart Murdoch, dressed as a milkman, knocks on the front door of Isobel who's wearing her school uniform. Mr Murdoch is obviously on the lookout for payment of some kind and poor little Isobel, having no money of her own and with her parents not around, is very concerned about what to do. Mr Milkman Stuart (with a leering glint in his eye) leans over Isobel and suggests, there are other methods of payment, you know, alternatives to cash. Isobel pouts sexily and agrees that maybe she could accommodate nice Mr Stuart. But what exactly does he have in mind? An oily grin appears on Murdoch's face as he slowly looks down towards his crotch to reveal his jolly roger swaying freely in the wind. Stuart M mouths some words, obviously in a foreign tongue, possibly Scandinavian, which are replaced by a harsh cockney dub saying something like "Go on, put it in your mouth". I think Isobel has to take off all her clothes now and her and Murdoch start shagging on the sofa. Well, that's what happens in the video I'm watching now. I like the idea of Isobel getting her kit off. Maybe I'll just get back to my viewing pleasure though. Have a nice weekend, Love...John +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From johnj at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 17:10:55 1998 From: johnj at xxx.com (JJ) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:10:55 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Chorley Curry Connection References: <000001be17f7$9272a360$584d989e@elsato97> Message-ID: <365EDD1F.7E65@seahouses.u-net.com> Sarah wrote: > Is that the Indian in a church?? I find taht pretty amazing, I > think I may drag my friends there JUST BECAUSE!! No I think the one you're thinking of is called Shajoos, or something similar, it's actually in Adlington? Or maybe there are TWO indian restaurants that used to be churches.. I really really really fancy a curry. But the nearest one is that Azad Manzil up the road which is crap. It's always tasteless and watery. Mr Taggart loves going there, it's his favourite, last time I went in (not with Tag) the waiter asked me "Where is Mr McTaggart? Does he not want his Chicken Tikka Masala?" or something like that. I'm sorry, I'm rambling. I've been to the Isle of Man you know. JJ xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 17:56:13 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:56:13 -0000 Subject: Sinister: The duke minced my kitten Message-ID: <199811271750.RAA14528@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> Ah, back to normal... The return of the Duke (to quote a beach boys song I've had to listen to about a million times) - I never knew that he'd been gone (it wasn't me that was rude about him - I only said that he'd minced my kitten and filled Isobels' um, orifice with the resultant bloody sludge)..... Lots of americans filling their fat faces with every different kind of, er, turkey... lots of lovely lovely poems (I'm tempted to put one up myself but... nah!)... the premature return of the 'crush vote' for chrissakes (panic to scan in crap photo tomorrow anticipated) and aeron said: > ps- are there any closet metallers on the list? I'm afraid there are, as revealed by the top ten list craze that seized the list a while back which brought up the hairy subject of 'top 10 guitar solos.' Oooooh *shiver* enough of that already (although I don't mind the first sabbath album) I really don't think Keith deserved the Robin Asquith role... Keith's way too depraved. I suggest it goes to our own weejay. Yes, that'd be me then. I suggest we make the driving school one... that tasteful and subtle boy, brad, expurgated: > sons of showaddywaddy uh-oh not that again! I have a lot more to write, but it's well too late already and I really don't want to walk through the park in the dark, so I'll finish this off tomorrow. XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Th' WeeJmeister James at twopounds.u-net.com "I know there's a lot of bass players in the audience tonight, I know living amongst the constructions that the people in power have built doesn't feel so right" mAKE UP - "We Can't Be Contained" http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From SpaceboyUK at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 17:51:19 1998 From: SpaceboyUK at xxx.com (SpaceboyUK at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:51:19 EST Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream #Cum Video Message-ID: <3adfa7e9.365ee697@aol.com> that was very deranged +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trarvild at xxx.se Fri Nov 27 17:55:36 1998 From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 18:55:36 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Just very happy Message-ID: <199811271757.SAA02597@mb05.swip.net> Ooo I must tell you I'm so VERYVERYVERYVERY HHHAAAAAPPPPPPPPYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yesterday I got the results from an examination and my was okey. But in the afternon I went to my favorit rekord shop and but the B&S:s CDs I want have always been sold out when I have had mony. But this time they had Dog on wheels,lazy line painter jane and 3..6..9 Seconds Of light. The CDs I'd been dreaming about all in the same day!!!! I went home and hade a wonderfull evening! Today I was going to stay home and study. Unfortully my brain just wanted to tell me that "I'm happy" all the time and that is not good i'f you try to read about electric fields. There were lotsoff ,I shal only listen to a century of elvis one more time. So I sat down and read the litle text in laz line... and then the one in 3..6..9......Now I'm high upp in the blue and pink clouds (no, I don't take exotic chemicals) I have a question here that poped upp when I first read the text in laz line... and then the one in 3..6..9.. Is it my brain who tricks me and try to find connections that are not there or does the begining of lazy Jane on the café go together whit the end off the story about Jim so that these nice stories just are two parts of the same story? Do anyone know who have writen these fine stories? I'm still flying among the red clouds and funny colored butterflys can someone mail me a stone so I can come down to the ground I have to do a ladoratory experiment at school on Monday morning. Wish all of you are as happy as I'm now Katta P.S. Arantxa my name is Katarina but most peoples are to lazy for that name so it just becomes Katta. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rudd_caleb at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 17:58:41 1998 From: rudd_caleb at xxx.com (Caleb J Rudd) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:58:41 +0000 Subject: Sinister: He who posts last shall be first Message-ID: <802566C9.004B6EC6.00@nyc-ntgw-n01.ny.jpmorgan.com> Afternoon all. I?ve come out of hiding for my first real post, but will whip straight back again. Not as you might suspect, for fear of a barrage of mud--slinging and recrimination, but as I will lose regular e-mail access (change of Jobs). From now on you can mail me at poplad at hotmail.com. Yes the address is embrassing, but indiekid and popkid were already taken. As mentioned by the Tagster I was in the Manchester region last weekend, staying with the delightful Mr and Mrs Warrander John. Well I think it was the real TAG? Or was it the more ample troused doppleganer? Well I didn't like to stare but can say he was the Uncut one. Perhaps if I had more time? Manchester though suitably grey and menacing, charmed me with it's air of laidbackness and Smiths references. On Saturday at the record fare we did blend in well with the annorak brigrade, although not knowing my nothern from any other pole soul, I made do clutching second hand indie seedies (David Devant, Boo Radleys, Suede, Tiger, if your interested, which I'm sure you all are) and live recordings of rather dubious quality. I also spied a few copies of the bootleg Tigermilk CD, and hissed at the stall owners. These seemed to be copies of the other TiggaMilk bootleg doing the rounds in certain Manchester record shops, proving that there is indeed honor among thieves. That night the Warranders introduced me to the splender of Smile at the Star and Garter. Three Belle & Sebastian tunes were played, including Boy with the Arab Strap and String Bean Jean. I was assured three songs was a lower than average figure, and the rest of the night was pop-porri of northern soul, indie and eighties delights. There was a girl who was a dead ringer for Rollergirl there, all golden locks and milky skin. I told her she looked like Heather Graham (Rollergirl). "Who?" she replied indignantly and I shuffled away. No matter, she didn't dance to B&S either. Much of the time at the Warranders was spent listing to records from the greats like Jacques Breil, Scott Walker, Serge Gainsbourg and Momus and watching 60s music shows. I can't tell you how gutted I was, realising I was born a generation after the likes of Herman's Hermits topped the pops. Fate I curse thee. Wednesday night saw a large number of listees attend the illustrious Bull & Gate at Kentish town for a feast of Fortuna pop. I missed Kato, who were reportedly Spacemen 3/post-shoegazing ish but did spy John Simms (a band not a man) doing a good impersonation of Stereolab, Sportica playing the buzzcock power-pop hand well, Aeroplane girl, who despite looking like a Bis tribute band were much more eclectic, with echoes of Pavement and the Pastels. I should mention that on the tube home a guinessed up Trousers liberated an Alanis Morrissette advert. How does it look on your prison wall, Trousers? Finally, bad news for fans of the rather fine Australian pop group The Earthmen (i.e. The Warranders and myself). After about six years and one full album together it appears they are going their seperate ways, after the release of a final EP. Hopefully the parts will be more than the sum. See you on Sunday at Lady Ps, London boyos and girlos. -x Caleb x- "Baby I've been waiting for you, in the housing benefit queue." - Jack "Nico's Children" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Chester Indie Zine www.chester.org.au -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fatslug at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 17:06:16 1998 From: fatslug at xxx.com (Kevan Cooke) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 10:06:16 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream #2 and Christmas Message-ID: Hello folks A quick search through the archives reveals that the best candidates for making the B&S video are Magnetic Megan and FunkySeb. We all know that Megan has a wealth of experience in the world of film making, and Seb is an all round theatrical entreprenaur, even if he is unsubsribed these days. We could even have a guest appearance from John Johnston as the comedian. There, sorted. When I was growing up there was this house around the corner where they always went over the top with the Christmas decorations, lots and lots of lights all over the place, but very little taste. Anyway, it seemed that every time I moved to a new town these people followed me 'cos it would always be there, this house with the garish flashing lights and maybe a little nativity scene in the garden. So, at the start of this year I moved to a new town again, and thought to myself "maybe I've got away this time", but what do I find? They've only gone and put this bloody person in charge of decorating the whole bloody town! It's just too horrible to describe, but I'll try... If I can liken Basingstoke to a lump of shit, and I think I can, if you were to put a sprig of holly on a steaming turd would people stop and say "ahh, how Christmassy"? I don't think so. Kevan The Bah Humbug Slug *********************************** chickclick.com girl sites that don't fake it. http://www.chickclick.com http://www.chickmail.com *********************************** +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheeXVirus at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 18:15:54 1998 From: TheeXVirus at xxx.com (TheeXVirus at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:15:54 EST Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream #Cum Video Message-ID: <4be731fd.365eec5a@aol.com> it really was. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 18:18:25 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:18:25 EST Subject: Sinister: select dec '98 issue Message-ID: hey kids i'm sure this was brought up - but as Whitesnake said, "here i go again" blah blah. anyway, you all know 'bout the Dec '98 Select issue which has an article regarding the press & promotion games involved with B&S, right? anyways, i found the article quite funny, i had never known that B&S use odd- styled pictures for promotion (ie, pics of their friends, pics of band members in disguise, etc) i just LOVE the fact that they generally refuse to do much press. If they were really supercool, they would never have let anyone know their names - they'd just use blatant fake alias names, or something like "vocalist" and "guitarist" and etc. oh well, maybe next time they'll get it right! :-) anyway, for those of you Yanks who don't want to shell out a lot of money for Select, i'd be happy to copy the article. it's quite good. just email me privately and let me know (you know, if you email to the list, then there's no chance in hell that i'll make you a copy, that kind of thing) :-) as everyone in this list loves to complain, there is an overabundance of mail sent to this list having nothing to do with B&S, and i don't want mr kitchen of nondistinction to send me or y'all another lame email regarding these things :-) happy reading! xox mike gaobest at aol.com ps - for thsoe of you who want to know, the Select also has an article of Alanis (she's the cover model) as well as an ace article on current Pete Bests (for Manics, Oasis, Bluetones, Cornershop, et al) and other stuff :-) plus it comes with a bonus CD (as long as yer in the UK, or in lucky good shops in the US, like Virgin and good indie shops) and the bonus CD is ace 'cause it has NOTHING from B&S on it so it's worth a listen! yay +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 18:31:57 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:31:57 EST Subject: Sinister: My own PhotoJenny Message-ID: <4c6bb768.365ef01d@aol.com> In a message dated 11/27/98 02:23:43 AM, rebelstrange at ldd.net wrote: << she looked just like Amelia from Heavenly and i couldn't stop staring. >> *sigh* just maybe that was Amelia. i'd have been too shy to say anything to Amelia or to an Amelia-look-alike as well, even though i don't even have a cursh on Amelia (since she's still with peter)... but wow. I dunno, my heart just swooned for Lesley Jo's post, i liked it. feels also like that event could be fodder for a Beat Happening song. except that BH broke up 5 years ago, so what's the point! xox mike (hoping that Lesley Jo will find her Amelia/Isobel look-a-like again someday) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From GaoBest at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 18:50:51 1998 From: GaoBest at xxx.com (GaoBest at xxx.com) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:50:51 EST Subject: Sinister: split enz (history always repeats) Message-ID: In a message dated 11/27/98 03:32:06 AM, someone wrote: <> Right, I don't want to sound tooo elitist, but considering that there have been QUITE a few posts from listmembers whinging about how much better the list used to be and how awful the list is now (probably because of posts like this one that you're reading!), i do have a suggestion based on a real-life mailinglist experience which has actually worked: i'm one of the many members of Lipgloss (Pulp) mailing list who joined Sinister. On Lipgloss, a lot of the "old guard" used to whinge when they realized that they were no longer the only big Pulp fans out there; they weren't happy with the idea of more mega-Pulp fans. I know that some of them got upset when i started to copy "extremely rare" Pulp songs and gigs (i have about 150 pulp gigs on tape) for "anyone in lipgloss" (one of the elitists even emailed me and said something along the lines of "yo'ure letting all the good stuff out! geez! don't do it!" as if it was bad to share the rarer and harder-to-find Pulp tracks with other Pulp fans) - although most also got upset 'cause of how much more crowded Lipgloss due to all the newer Pulp fans who became fans because of Different Class and "Disco 2000" instead of being Pulp fans after hearing the _It_ album in 1984 or "I want you" in 1986/87. There were many posts having more to do with the idea of being a Pulp fan, rather than about how wonderful it is to hear "don't you know" or about watching "Butt Naked" program with Pulp. Topics expanded from Pulp-only to things in general, such as "i'm going to be in kalamazoo, MI for a couple of days, can anyone suggest some good record shops" or "ooh, has anyone heard Belle & Sebastien, they're soooo wonderful, you MUST hear them" or "can someone recommend a Blur album to listen to? I've never heard them but i've heard good things about them" etc etc. The point is this: the old guard elitist members went on to form their own mailing list for Pulp, which had a "Pulp-discussion-only" mantra, plus membership was screened. It seems to work out very well, because on Lipgloss we no longer have to deal with these elitist people whinging about the "good old days" of Lipgloss, and the elitists have their own list where they can discuss ONLY Pulp (even though there is also a lot of off-topic discussion there as well, big shocker!). And fans of Pulp who only want to discuss Pulp and nothing else can join their list (after the membership screening process) and also partake in the joys of discussing only Pulp on a Pulp mailing list. This HAS RESULTED overall in the classic "win-win-win" situation of negotations, where everyone is happy overall, where everyone wins. This is a good situation. No one loses. So I suggest that the Sinisterists who are fed up (with how this list has become) either form their own B&S list where they can screen the membership and monitor the discussion topics, so that they would be happy (and end the "i miss the good old days of Sinister" posts), OR they can petition Honey & the other listowners to expel people like me and the other new list members who seem to occasionally (or frequently, i guess) discuss topics that are vaguely related to B&S (but I guess not COMPLETELY on topic for B&S) or who send posts that could have been answered in the FAQ. Or they can just expel me from the list i guess, so that critical posts such as these can be permanently unseen. Either way, this may result in a "win-win-win" situation that would make everyone happy. anyways, if for some reason i get expelled from the list, i'll forward the completed Tigermilk poll results to a Sinister member who is still on the list (probably one of the people who kindly participated in the poll) who can then forward them to the list. So far the numbers are astounding, in terms of who's paid what for Tigermilk, or what people are willing to pay. I almost fainted when i read some of those replies (thanks to everyone who's replied, and of course the poll deadline's not til dec 5 or something, so there's still time to reply) xox mike +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From honey at xxx.net Fri Nov 27 19:41:09 1998 From: honey at xxx.net (Honey) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:41:09 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: split enz (history always repeats) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The title of this is particularly ironic. History follows people around on the whole. I'd like to make a few things clear. 1. This list is not about to turn into Lipgloss. As far as I'm concerned, it looks pretty lose-lose to me what's happened there, and I wouldn't run a list on either side of the split that happened there. It just wouldn't be any fun. The last time I took a look at Lipgloss, it was subject by about 30 or more replies to a pointless, unimaginative 4 page questionnaire about what was everyone's favourite colour. And then subsequent discussions about whether it was a good idea. 2. This list is not about to turn into a "discuss B&S only" list. That would be too dull for tears. Mike's missing the point here: the only thing to get elitist about is whether people don't think before sending. He's obvious not looked at the archives if he thinks anyone's talking about halcyon days when this list was more "on topic". Not the point at all. 3. All I know is this list has changed in character over the last month or so. I'm not sure why yet but I'm getting a better idea. If the Lipgloss split worked, then why did so many people join Sinister, if they did as Mike says? If they did, please don't bring any lessons from there here - we've been getting along in smashing style here for ages. This list is not run by an elite, it's run by ME, and I'm still being told, on the whole, I'm doing OK, although sometimes recently I'm wondering. 4. I don't think for ONE minute any of the longer-lasting members on this list are elitist. I don't think they want to talk about "just B&S". I think what they're talking about is an upping of the level of thought and care, and, yes, imagination taken when putting down your thoughts before sending. If anyone's being elitist I'd say I'd do something about it, but I know from past experience that I don't need to: there's too many sensible people here to allow crazy opinions on "true fans" and "let's keep the music to ourselves" to survive for long. I can't imagine anything more laughable bearing in mind what the band do. If you've just joined this list because you liked TBWTWAS and you haven't heard much else, then you're just as welcome as someone who lived with Mick Cooke in Istanbul in 1978, during his "harem" years. 5. How many times do I have to ask people not to send mails about the list TO the list? Mike, do you honestly think your mail won't provoke another set of replies back to the list all about list splits, elitism, content, rules etc? Do you think any of it will be new? How many lists do people need to be on and see dissipate until they understand the process and stop encouraging it, instead of having to move from list to list? People don't get expelled from the list for "critical views", but anyone pursuing this thread now will just get expelled because I'm sick to death of it, and if I don't it will be repeated ad infinitum every three weeks until we all leave through sheer boredom. I mean: look at this mail: it's boring as hell. 6. This list is run by one person: me. There are no other list owners. 7. If you want to change the way this list works mail ME. I do what the majority of people want. Please someone tell me if I'm right or wrong? Just don't expect any lengthy replies just now, reasons as before, but your comments will be weighed, honestly. I'd like some support here because I feel I'm in a trench. 8. New and old list members alike leave this topic alone now please, for the thousandth time, including whether the list is "any good anymore", and "how to improve it". It's a sure way to make sure it ends up as crap. Honey +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From steve at xxx.uk Fri Nov 27 19:49:26 1998 From: steve at xxx.uk (Steve Genge) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 19:49:26 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Back in the good old days...... Message-ID: <000301be1a3f$203d4260$8ee5989e@wphnvffu> It was all fields round here apparently. Now that Tag's comments, which I feel said everything that needed saying, look like turning into a frankly tedious new listees vs old listess debate I thought I stick my own big spoon in the soup & give it a stir. Now correct me if I'm wrong but I think the main point of Tag's post wasn't that the list was better in the "old" days because I would expect that if you looked back in the archives there was probably just as much posted then that had people pressing the delete key. It's just now the list is three or four times as big & so the number of postings has also gone up. I think what annoys many people, myself most definitely included, is the fact that despite Paul's repeated pleas people carry on: 1 - sending unsubscribe mails 2 - sending far too many postings per day 3 - think that 800 or so people are going to be interested/amused by something that if they stopped & thought before pressing send they wouldnt bother inflicting upon us all (I hope) It's very sad to say as this list means a hell of a lot to me for various reasons that I won't bore you with but recently the urge to stop myself feeling pissed off with it despite Paul's sterling efforts is proving very great. Whereas a bit of thought by people, old & new, could keep it going. steve "Pain and beauty, our constant bedfellows." Sabine Strohem steve at seahorses.demon.co.uk Red Roses For Me Fanzine & Records For Sale http://surf.to/redroses +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From tinystar at xxx.com Fri Nov 27 20:26:16 1998 From: tinystar at xxx.com (jessica) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 15:26:16 -0500 Subject: Sinister: wallpaper* b+s? Message-ID: <000601be1a44$4c0ef6e0$4d1e05d1@tinystar> hihi, it was mentioned briefly the other day that there was a little b+s bit in an issue of wallpaper* magazine. i, being the nut that i am, read it religiously from cover to cover, and i'm sure i haven't seen anything in any issues about b+s (although hooray to them for recommending both tortoise and autechre). if anyone knows which issue this is in, could you just mail me privately? proof positive that b+s are among the truly stylish. truly, jessicaxo +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dkemp at xxx.net Fri Nov 27 21:05:19 1998 From: dkemp at xxx.net (Heather Kemp) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 16:05:19 -0500 Subject: Sinister: thanksgiving and canadians In-Reply-To: <199811251730.RAA28505@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.19981127160519.007a8dc0@mail.baynet.net> **lurk mode off** I'm tremendously behind with my digest reading, so someone else has probably answered this by now. >From: "Anastasia Signoretta" >Subject: Sinister: have some more stuffing >to the brits and other non-americans on the list: i feel very sorry for you that >your respective home countries do not celebrate a thanksgiving of any kind. or >maybe they do and i'm just incredibly culturally unaware. culturally unaware...only slightly m'dear...Canada had Thanksgiving over a month ago, and tho it doesn't warrant 4 days off (unfortunately) it is still Thanksgiving. Happy Turkey Day to Americans, one day late. **lurk mode on** Heatha (heather number 2 i guess....aka "the heather that never posts") +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From twinkle at xxx.net Fri Nov 27 23:37:24 1998 From: twinkle at xxx.net (petula) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 23:37:24 GMT Subject: Sinister: Possible re-airing of b&s on Much Music Message-ID: <199811272337.XAA02769@trapdoor.aracnet.net> Hello young Canadians, I meant to send this in sooner-- I caught our favourite VJ, Sook-Yin "i was a ritalin child" Lee on the other day, saying that they'd be showing a special on the Scottish music scene tomorrow (Saturday) at 4 p.m. EST. No specific mention of B&S, but I'd assume you'd have a pretty good chance of catching Isobel romping about with a big stuffed lion again. enjoy! elisabeth xxx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rebelstrange at xxx.Miller Sat Nov 28 01:26:10 1998 From: rebelstrange at xxx.Miller (rebelstrange at xxx.Miller) Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 17:26:10 -0800 Subject: Sinister: it's all part of my rock and roll fantasy... Message-ID: <003001be1a6e$153e9420$3011020a@rebelstrange> can anyone btw tell me who did that horrible 70's cock-rock song? i have a problem. i think i have finally figured it out and it's quite puzzling me. sometimes i get digests that sseeem to be cut off short, they are shorter than usual and the sig file thingy at the end is not there. i couldnt' figure it out. today i realized that this happens usually when a message from Jordi is there.. they always end when they do, at jordi's signature. this is really disturbing. is there some sort of weird technical problem there? cos i dont' want to be missing things. well maybe someone can tell me if they have had problems with digests getting chopped off? in other news. the person who proposed the ropeswing brain puzzler, i was disappointed that isobel and sarah didnt' snog when they were left alone. maybe we could change the rules a bit. that would certainly brighten up my day, er spice up my life a bit. and that's what the dirty dream is for me today. btw i liked the idea for the video about the windows and all that, it was good. add one of isobel and sarah and my day will be made, i can't speak for anyone else. *teehee* it would figure that i would be Crushed by such a conventional crush object as isobel. i think every silly boy wants to marry her. well at least i'm a girl, maybe that is slightly original. i've never had a dirty dream about isobel, just for the record, so my slate is clean. well not exactly. oh that sounded bad again. ThINGS I"M THANKFUL FOR (to celebrate this lousy holiday just passed) being inspired by beautiful music once again and feeling young again taking angry joy in the fact that my heart is being brutally broken a crushworthy lass such as isobel campbell to distract my thus-broken heart finding a PhotoJenny of my very own writing more poems partaking of the shiny apple sarah's christlike generosity amazing friends like jess who is like a sister to me who shared the most wonderful time of my life being able to study at stow any day i like granola bars getting friendly emails daily from kind and clever sods and feeling loved in my on-her-own life. Isobel's Arms of Sex (fooled ya didnt' i?) this is what i am thankful for this crappy holiday. goddess bless y'all. BRAD says i would make some crude isobel joke here about her spastic colon, but i choose not to. besides, what if she's reading all these things i'm writing about her...then i'll never get her in the sack ***************** ooh you, watch yer back cos i've got my vodun dolls in tow, and you know the only way you can become a Witch is to repeat "i am a witch" 3 times to yourself, and no one says nasty things about my Un-girlfriend like that. so expect instant karma to bite you in the arse within the week. the heavens will not stand for you mrere mortals to be defiling one of their angels. damn, i should have done this a long time ago...... lesley Jo and i'll never leave you a lone till you admit how strong i've grown and i'll tell you i'm not your bitch on loan i'm a witch, an ugly Hag, a Crone..... +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From 0291942a01 at xxx.es Sat Nov 28 11:44:04 1998 From: 0291942a01 at xxx.es (Jordi Trenzano Vilar) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:44:04 +-100 Subject: Sinister: Technology and I Message-ID: <01BE1AC4.985A00A0@Abonado-195-53-39-92.cat.es> Technology is not a good friend of mine: "i have a problem. i think i have finally figured it out and it's quite puzzling me. sometimes i get digests that sseeem to be cut off short, they are shorter than usual and the sig file thingy at the end is not there. i couldnt' figure it out. today i realized that this happens usually when a message from Jordi is there.. they always end when they do, at jordi's signature. this is really disturbing. is there some sort of weird technical problem there? cos i dont' want to be missing things. well maybe someone can tell me if they have had problems with digests getting chopped" Well, I?m not an agent of the CIA who doesn?t want Lesley to get their messages, or maybe my computer works for them and I still don?t know it.... The fact is that I?m having some problems too. Has anyone post anything to the list during all this night ?...... It?s now 11:41 and I only have two messages, and Lesley?s complaining is the last one. Jordi. In my CD player: Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds "The best of....." begin 600 WINMAIL.DAT M>)\^(AP*`0:0" `$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y 0```````#H``$-@ 0` M`@````(``@`!!) &`$P!```!````# ````,``# "````"P`/#@`````"`?\/ M`0```'0`````````M3O"P"QW$!JAO @`*RI6PA4```!K%TNW-$O2$;$'1$53 M5 ``1( ```````"!*Q^DOJ,0&9UN`-T!#U0"`````'-I;FES=&5R(&UA:6QI M;F<@;&ES= !33510`'-I;FES=&5R0'!H+F5D+F%C+G5K`!X``C !````!0`` M`%--5% `````'@`#, $````5````*=34X:U$=*Q"41%4U0` M````'@`># $````%````4TU44 `````>`!\,`0```!T````P,CDQ.30R83 Q M0&%B;VYA9&]S+F-P;'5S+F5S``````,`!A"N9BP1`P`'$# #```>``@0`0`` M`&4```!414-(3D],3T=925-.3U1!1T]/1$92245.1$]&34E.13HB24A!5D5! M4%)/0DQ%34E42$E.2TE(059%1DE.04Q,649)1U52141)5$]55$%.1$E44U%5 M251%4%5:6DQ)3D=-15-/``````(!"1 !````N@,``+8#``#$!0``3%I&=1[9 MT%/_``H!#P(5`J@%ZP*#`% "\@D"`&-H"L!S970R-P8`!L,"@S(#Q0(`<')" M<1'B2 $`(8@&O %0&$@9V\$FP+@&?U M'-!E(&%S`W 1P =S'V"R9Q' (&0B$ >0= 0@?2"P805 !! )X!/@(*!O="!B M'[!C(L$1TU"L ?'[ H0P20)I(#H'5S=?\'0"+C*+$E M$"(0(7$@,""C_QLQ)L$K$AQR&V4HL180(&*C'34%H'5L9 (P)R'UIR)U(& G M8&1A&T$@%A#Y!T!I>B)1)J, at L00@$8"\<' )\ 0@*G,AT7! M&7)6 DH1%P;S'!9"(=/QL>3T;E5T$Q*)!)7"?\8C0G M0!N3,M$EX#^!'+'Q*Q)#24$RD2=P-P`'D.\+D$GQ!4 _8TP'D" P&T#?)V$E MXBBQ/& S9G,HD 6Q;T%S'- ;0 6@;21 *>)W?06P:P0@`A J`B: M: 5 /U+B-2%)=$GB at QMR!^ Q,3HT,5$5]P(@(=$?@W10,$XY(O)-!/];!$^B M"V(DDC2D6*!6P"*1?QT`(& 9;T<2-$-3%F)L2;,#H$]Q0T0?X M@>020;CH' ML#U0(/!#'Y,JY4+O1%$&8 F !" B4Y(GD& R7F9: Message-ID: <365FDC50.F22A9F2D@lineone.net> let it be bradcast from the roofs of buildings the world over: the duke would fill, and i quote verbatim, 'Isobels' um, orifice' with one thing and ONE THING ONLY. He also hopes she's not reading this cos he gets embarassed very easily, poor bloke. He's also a bit sad because he had to say that he doesn't much like 'The Gate' on the new B&S record very much at all. Except the trumpet, which is rather fine, but that would be the Cooke boys handiwork, wouldn't it? Um yeah, issy sounds for all the world just TOO much like someone out of Talulah Gosh or Tiger Trap or someone and although i'm not slagging that per se, i'm just saying that for me, today, it's not what i want to hear. If the duchess were to hear it she'd be off on a rant about stupid girly singers, so i'm programming it out of the playlist. On the other hand, 'I Know Where The Summer Goes' is gorgeous, as i knew it would be, and if i've been listening to 'Modern Rock Song' in this guise as well as the radio version for a year now, well that's just because i've been lucky and i'm one of those elitist few that laugh at all you poor wee newcomers. Ha ha ha. And in case you wonder, or are really dim, there's 'irony' or something similar in that statement. Which means that 'Modern Rock Song' STILL sounds like the Velvet Underground for the new millennium. Sorry for mentioning that word. You already know that 'Slow Graffiti' is genius cos you've all got it on the Acid House soundtrack record. It makes me want to explode. And did you know that Biff Bang Pow! had a compilation LP called 'The Acid House Album'? The cover was all hand-sprayed paint swirls. It was brilliant. And who is really responsible for the B&S sleeve concepts? Is the Symington man under the barrel of Murdoch's big gun or something? Forced with fear of his Divine empire crumbling under the might of the Belle mafia to make sleeves which unremittingly look like they once belonged to The Smiths? I mean, this really is taking the piss. And if it is taking the piss, well that joke isn't funny anymore. (They who said the Duke had no sense of humour (or humor) were oh so spot on.) Even the orange colour is right off of 'Louder Than Bombs'... so with no official US release, will Matador do like Rough Trade UK did and buckle under fan pressure? The reverse parallels are too spooky to ignore. keep the faith, the duke WeeJay wrote: > > Ah, back to normal... The return of the Duke (to quote a > beach boys song I've had to listen to about a million times) - I never > knew that he'd been gone (it wasn't me that was rude about him - I > only said that he'd minced my kitten and filled Isobels' um, orifice > with the resultant bloody sludge) ------------------------------------------ 'all of our dreams are dying of overdoses' ------------------------------------------ Tangents On-Line http://www.tangents.co.uk PO Box 102, Exeter, EX2 4YL, UK tangent at lineone.net ------------------------------------------ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From e.brown at xxx.com Sat Nov 28 13:53:30 1998 From: e.brown at xxx.com (Emanuel Brown) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 06:53:30 -0700 Subject: Sinister: Belel & Sebastian for the heartbroken? Message-ID: Alexandra, Music therapy can do wonders for the mind weakened by heart-rendered mishaps, although sending your friend in the direction of abject depression is a weighty decision. B & S might do the trick but if you really want to make her cry 'till she can't cry anymore find a copy of The Magnetic Fields' "The Wayward Bus/Distant Plastic Trees". Stephen Merritt's wickedly amusing songs of loss and abandonment as filtered through the ethereal voice of Susan Anway. �Sample lyric: "Those days are gone / You and I were young those summer nights / You'll see the world / Diving for a girl you'll never find / And then we'll quietly grow old / The saddest story ever told" fare thee well emanuel Free, fast e-mail accessible anytime, anywhere http://www.imaginemail.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k.watson at xxx.uk Sat Nov 28 17:35:25 1998 From: k.watson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:35:25 -0000 Subject: Sinister: the JOBBYMEN (WHO) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001be1af5$7c040320$3b9875c2@quartz> I wrote : <> Then someone else wrote quoting my bit above : <> Which I found funny, I don't think I've ever been accused of being an elitist before. Seems a bit strange given the nature of my quote. I mean I know some people might be a bit slow on the uptake, but as far as I remember, Moses never was on the Belle and Sebastian list - and I don't think Stuart writes songs about losing his mess, at least not without couching them in "being stuck to the sheets" style language. In any case, just to clarify, what I wrote above is a joke. Not serious, it's true the mailing list is clogged up with a lot of pointless posts, I mean, I'd be lying if I said otherwise, but in reality there's no greater percentage of shite than there ever was, just actually more of it now. I suppose when you get two hundred mails in your mailbox Ps : Just to clarify, in case people didn't read the Duke's message clearly enough - here's a summary - he's got the new EP Hey, I think this'll be the first time I've sent a mail to the list at the weekend. Cheers, Keith. In my CD Player : Nothing +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From L.Kerr at xxx.uk Sun Nov 29 01:22:43 1998 From: L.Kerr at xxx.uk (Linda Kerr) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:22:43 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: Pecking order Message-ID: Keith Watson wrote >Ps : Just to clarify, in case people didn't read the Duke's message >clearly enough - here's a summary - he's got the new EP Just to clarify, Keith hasn't. :) ..Is there no justice? PS Neither have we. PPS No, there isn't. Linda xxx -- Linda Kerr Heriot-Watt University liblk at pp.hw.ac.uk +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From frumpi at xxx.com Sat Nov 28 19:41:01 1998 From: frumpi at xxx.com (annastasia saffrone) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 11:41:01 PST Subject: Sinister: cooki cooki lend me ur comb Message-ID: <199811281941.LAA17482@law-f84.hotmail.com> i wish to apologize to all... esp. Honey... for being thoughtless and abusing the list last week, because i was too lazy, how rude and thoughtless!!!! i can be that way sometimes... next time i'll check the new archive engine, tx H so it would only figure that my 1st post was an abuse of the list... not a good way to start off... i hope i can make up for it???? my week of silence and list virginity convinced me that that this list is something i would like to be a part of be patient, i'm learning... oh.... Mary Poppins... did anyone else see that last night? could i love that movie more? dick van dyke, what a dream... my fave is when they can't stop laughing and they float around they have a tea party on the ceiling (minus lionel richie) i wish i would float about when i giggle uncontrollably reminds me of another great one, in willi wonka when the boy and his grandpap drink the forbidden soda they start floating and are quite apprehensive about how they will return to earth... belching saves the day (a recurring theme in my life) it has always made me giggle uncontrollably to hear big busting belching... (should have been at my house thursday eve, twas good for such) i would love to float under any circumstances have any listees heard of speed the plough?? the band consists of members from the feelies/luna/yang wu???? its impossible to find but i have a bit on tape and what i am getting at here is that i only have iyfs and tbwtas and would like to have some more b&s to listen to. could anyone help? email me... i'll be willing to provide tapes and giftees including some speed the plough if your interested... well i'm off like a snatch patch huh? i dunno :) she is now, as i speak sitting at the table in fresh new clean pair of drawers. wow, you got to love grandmothers huh! ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From fruite at xxx.com Sat Nov 28 22:18:57 1998 From: fruite at xxx.com (Jamie McCordale) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:18:57 PST Subject: Sinister: Fashion question Message-ID: <19981128221857.6770.qmail@hotmail.com> a pea coat with wooden toggles? >Hi, > >I was wondering what the name is for a hooded coat which you close by >putting bits of wood through loops of rope. >Thanks, > >Koen ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From stuart at xxx.uk Sat Nov 28 23:08:01 1998 From: stuart at xxx.uk (Steve Iguana) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:08:01 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Fashion question Message-ID: <002f01be1b23$f339a840$aae7edc1@default> Sounds rather like a duffle coat to me, as worn by Paddington Bear (a cult hero is ever there was one). Regards -----Original Message----- From: Jamie McCordale To: sinister at majordomo.net ; seaborne at xs4all.nl Date: 28 November 1998 22:20 Subject: Re: Sinister: Fashion question > >a pea coat with wooden toggles? > >>Hi, >> >>I was wondering what the name is for a hooded coat which you close by >>putting bits of wood through loops of rope. >>Thanks, >> >>Koen > > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pookie59 at xxx.com Sun Nov 29 01:33:14 1998 From: pookie59 at xxx.com (Genevieve Wesley) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 17:33:14 PST Subject: Sinister: jolly roger? jolly rancher? Message-ID: <19981129013315.24473.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello dears! ok maybe the list got dull...bot you gotta admit,it shot right back in the last bit there...and oooh ooh ooh especially John Warrander's contributions! those were funny! Peter Funny Man Miller have got himself some trouble competetionn. my goodness,these Manly Men Of The Sinister Mailing List...we've got Big Stu trying on french maid costumes (it's ok Stu,it's a popular costume i think..I got too big for mine tho,I sent it to Honey) and all these 'he's my lover' 'i'm going to watch you with binoculors' remarks...you're worse then this group of boys in my locker bay,EVERY morning...giving each other purple nurples. They need cold shower,the lot of them. Is this video thing a like,real-real thing? no joking,yes? I would love to do that! I am always putting videos together in my head! I think Stuart David should play Stuart David..wearing leather trousers and lots of shots of him running in slo-motion,like those arty movies on Showcase. And you know how with Is It Wicked Not To Care..they had the little bit of poem at the beginning,and then the garden gate opens? for dirty dream..the words would be.. WE WORK HARD ( a pause,and then,appearing) AND PLAY HARDER! and then C+C Music Factory starts up ("Everybody Dance Now") oh wait...oopsy, "Dity Dream # 2" starts up.... but really,i could do a video! It would be very cheap looking,but if the dream is so dirty...you want it cheap-like. those 80's movies are funny i think...but they are so tacky,me and my friends acted all giddy like that in grade 5,not grade 10...I just have to say I liked James Spader in Pretty In Pink...sleazy,but good..i think if she went out with him,and then he dumped her after he slept with her would've been much more realistic situation.. i hate the prom dress she makes! like pink potatoe sack! my prom dress is going to be lovely,a red satin slip dress,no burlap sack wearer am i,no no. there's this other 80's movie that makes me laugh..'some kind of wonderful' maybe? it's got that caroline-in-the-city girl....I always laugh at the part where the girl is sitting in the locker room,in her underwear brushing her hair so passionately..I mean who does that? no-one i know! (maybe honey)i mean, in our locker room it's all sports bras and umbro shorts. yes it's good to like different types of music...i don't like much of the punk music i hear today (heh heh,I sound like my grandpappy!)(that most of the 'alternative' kids at my school listen to) it's jsut fast fast music and nasal sounding boys with 'oh we're so quirky! let's name all our songs Joey Joe Billy Bob and be funny!' actually...I like a lot of church hymns,my father plays music for churches,so our house is constantly flooded with sacred music. i like christmas music too...all warm and fuzzy feeling...I like the top ten music from the 60's and 70's alot more than the 90's,so when I'm in the car I listen to Oldies 1310 on the radio. And I love the Pointer Sisters,even if it's only that one song. "let's get excited!" na na na couldn't you just picture,polite and sweet Stuart Murdoch,hands on his hips saying "I'm about to lose control,and I think I like it." (then ripping of his clothing to reveal leopard print underwear! tee hee) sorry sorry..i'm not meaning to be so silly (and probably bring the list back down to the depths of the underworld with this pointless mail!) but I have monday off! (Election day) and i'm so excited,i just can't hide it. ok i love you lots,be good sinister people! Genevieve ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ASTROPOP20 at xxx.com Sun Nov 29 01:42:51 1998 From: ASTROPOP20 at xxx.com (ASTROPOP20 at xxx.com) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:42:51 EST Subject: Sinister: sinister: Nick Drake & Mojave3? Message-ID: <79be5dac.3660a69b@aol.com> any B&S fans have any Nick Drake and mojave3 boots? let me know...got a bunch of stuff to trade... check it out http://members.aol.com/astropop20/bootlegs.html thanks NEIL +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Thessaly1 at xxx.com Sun Nov 29 09:40:44 1998 From: Thessaly1 at xxx.com (Thessaly1 at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 04:40:44 EST Subject: Sinister: dirty dream video. Message-ID: <2e5b45d.3661169c@aol.com> i liked stuart's idea when he asked if any of us wanted to make the video for dirty dream two. he is actually serious about letting us submit videos? i have a friend who's roommate is a filmmaker and i can get a hold of a video camera. i have plenty of ideas for a video and would LOVE to film them and see what happens! dreaming of a dirty dream two video treatment, jennifer +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pjmiller at xxx.es Sun Nov 29 11:44:49 1998 From: pjmiller at xxx.es (PJMiller) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 12:44:49 +0100 Subject: Sinister: Dean Park Croissant Message-ID: <01be1b8d$ab61bac0$LocalHost@itjfvkli> It was with great pleasure and solemnity that I received a parcel form distant shores, containing therein a selection of cassette tapes of popular music. Unfortunately my work on the Pinochet defence case has left me unable to do anything other than sniff them so far, thus delaying my triumphal entry unto the great Mogwai debate. Thank you very much, Paul. Does your whole house smell of patchouli oil? Is it to hide the smell of cat widdle, or are you really a couple of filthy leather encrusted grebos? I once bought a couple of secondhand Ash Ra Tempel CDs that smelt a bit whiffy, but nothing compared to the overwhelming wave of essence of rockmonster that came flooding out of this envelope and knocked me backwards. Thank you Linda for the stamp. I'm looking forward to "Dub with Strings" most. Warrander John's video ideas were very nice, but a bit too "council housey" for my tastes, so I've done my own video script, this time without Jobbymen. I can't send it in to the list because it's just TOO RUDE and besides, I've sent it directly to Delabel Virgin France so as to get a foot in the door before you lot. Lesley J will be pleased to learn that Isobel and Sarah get it on big style. It's all very artistic and tasteful, a direct result of my reading of "Blue Movie" by Terry Southern. I freely admit to being a bandwagon-jumping bastard where B&S are concerned, but I'd like it to be known that I've been a huge fan of Lenny Kravitz since he played the part of Sticks in "Get On Board With The Double Deckers" as a child star. I got one of those crazy blank messages from sinister list owner. Am I the chosen one? JORDI: the boy on a bike is riding a bicycle, not a motorbike; to turn the page is "pasar la página"; Mayfly is a species of insect, "cachipolla" according to my dictionary, which sounds a bit rude to me, but never mind. I can't find anything else to correct, it's all top notch stuff. EVERYBODY: Jordi has asked me to send him interpretations of the songs on IYFS, but I'm afraid I haven't got a clue. Perhaps some of you lot would like to help Jordi out with his fanzine. There were some intriguing ideas about JATDOH not long ago, so I'm sure most of you are capable of lending a hand to our man in Barcelona. Je m'appelle Sister Disco +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From reid.dossinger at xxx.com Sun Nov 29 01:09:00 1998 From: reid.dossinger at xxx.com (Reid Dossinger) Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 20:09:00 -0500 Subject: Sinister: After filling my fat face Message-ID: <36609EAC.9C26527@bigfoot.com> Odds and ends, as usual. I just got back from a three-day feeding binge to the very interesting (things have picked up a bit) pile of digests and was pretty entertained for the first time in a long time. Is anyone else beginning to tingle with excitement for the new EP? Man, I can't wait. I'm setting up a tent beside my mailbox on Dec 7 and I'm not moving until it gets here. I picked up the copy of Magnet that has the two page article on B&S (mostly an interview w/ Richard)...aside from the paint-by-numbers intro (I'd give my right arm of sex for an article about B&S that doesn't mention the word "shy"), it's really good and very informative, for once. I'll transcribe a few of the details to the list when I get a few minutes tonight or tomorrow unless someone sends in an objection. Bill Moss wrote: > what istrument is playing in the the begining of 'if you're feeling > sinister?' it's the one that fades in and out - is that a pedal steel, > slide or cello? and who are those kids? > Ooh, I checked those fancy-ass new archives for this, and it wasn't in there (although I think Katrina and/or David wrote something about the kids a while back). So, an answer: If I'm not mistaken, that's an electric guitar using the simple but incredible trick of strumming a chord with the volume down at 0, and then slowly turning the volume knob up and then back down, creating a beautiful swell effect. The bassist of the band that I used to be in did this all the time. I never objected.No one else but Brad could have written: > speaking of daring, i > watched a g.g. allin documentary today and he, among other things, > crapped on stage, licked it, rubbed it on his face and his naked body, > and threw it at the crowd. that's what i want more of at shows. > Stevie did that at the DC show. Did I forget to mention that? Sorry. It was during the break in Sleep the Clock Around, when I had my glasses off. And was drunk. And was watcing the GG Allin documentary. > I can also make most of you dead jealous by letting you know we got a hold > of the promo copies of the new EP this week, icky brown cover and all. > Brown?! BROWN?!!! When the hell did this happen and why wasn't I notified?! The last I saw on the Jeepster site it was orange. Orange. I know orange when I see orange, mister, even if I can't rhyme it. Did they change it? If they did, I'm disappointed. I was going to get an extra copy and tie it to a piece of string. Then I was going to hide in alleys and when a Smiths fan mistook it for Louder Than Bombs, I was going to yank it up and then laugh at the poor Smiths fan: "Ha ha! It's not Louder Than Bombs at all! It's Belle and Sebastian! They're totally different!" This would have entertained me for hours, but I can't do it if it's brown. You see though a goldfish bowl, Reid +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From skg21 at xxx.uk Sun Nov 29 15:05:42 1998 From: skg21 at xxx.uk (Stuart Gardiner) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:05:42 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Sinister: List crush II - this time it's personal Message-ID: Well before I get down to business:- OK, so I had a superb night on Friday at the Rocky Horror Show. Fortunately I don't think anyone I know took any photos of me in my costume (which consisted of some gold underpants and a pair of socks...). I did get a round of applause when I arrived in the queue to get in though for the most daring costume. I actually got some people come up to me after the show and congratulate me on my performance during the show, despite only being in the auduence... (And I managed to get a laugh and a round of applause from over a thousand people for shouting out 'Oh my God, they killed Frankie!' at the relevant point in the performance) For anyone who doesn't have a clue what I'm talking about, or thinks I'm just plain odd, I urge you all to investigate the Rocky Horror Show or the film made of it. Go and see either and enjoy the best night out you've had for ages. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now the main point of the message. After the last list crush vote, David and I decided it would be a lot better if it could be done truly anonymously. So he has now developed a script which will automatically take your votes. So if you have got a crush on anyone on the Sinister list, head to http://listcrush.future.easyspace.com/ Points to note: 1. IT IS ABSOLUTELY ANONYMOUS - there is no way anyone can find out who has voted for who. 2. It gives an up-to-date table of who is the most desirable. 3. In case you change your mind, the table will be reset to zero every month or so, and everyone will be able to vote again. 4. If you want to vote for anyone not on the list of names already there, simply suggest their name and they will be added when I get round to it. Please note that some people may appear under a different name to how you know them - a nickname or whatever. I'll try to include both normal and nicknames where I know them - the more information you give me when suggesting someone the better. 5. Sorry about the pop-up which appears when you load the page - just kill it straight away, that's what I've been doing. It came with the web space we're using, we can't do anything about it. 6. IMPORTANT! You can now only vote for one person at a time. If you voted for several different people last time, you'll have to narrow it down to one. Have fun, and get lucky! Big Stu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Daf_Moore at xxx.com Sun Nov 29 15:37:24 1998 From: Daf_Moore at xxx.com (David Moore) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 10:37:24 -0500 Subject: Sinister: New Extended Play Record Message-ID: <199811291037_MC2-61DB-551F@compuserve.com> Hi All, (The I'm sure not EEVL) Linda wrote: Keith Watson wrote >Ps : Just to clarify, in case people didn't read the Duke's message >clearly enough - here's a summary - he's got the new EP Just to clarify, Keith hasn't. :) ..Is there no justice? PS Neither have we. PPS No, there isn't We don't have TIJAMRS either (in fact I haven't worn anything in bed for decades now) ...........................but my daughter's boyfriend's best mate has a promo and he doesn't like B & S so we've got it for the weekend yipeeeeeeeee! However, as we don't like to think of the whole B & S clan and their dependents and Katrina & David and any other Jeepster employees starving in their garrets please rest assured that we will rush out and purchase a moral and legal copy tomorrow. Then Struan can buy himself a matching silver t-shirt to showcase the arms of S!E!X. I have to agree with The Dook (does he call himself that because his real name's Marian?) about 75% of it being absolutely spiffing, even though writing songs is not as sinister friendly as riding buses. I am still trying to love The Gate, although several repeated listenings have failed to get any of it to stick in my head. No matter, there's hardly any bands releasing material that I even like three quarters of. I love the tune of I Know Where The Summer Goes, so pretty, and so B&S to be singing of smelly armpits to it! Question to Mr Symington: where was the animal photo taken, or taken from? Excited, David Moore Chelmsford, UK PS: Been reading the N. Brake bio like a good Sinisterine recently. His Housemaster at Marlborough went to the same school as me, (and that druggy bloke who wrote about Kubla Khan). God I'm famous. In my CD: a Sony Centre engineer fixing the bloody thing again :( Tape to be done as soon as I can, Jake. Sorry +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Sun Nov 29 15:40:37 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 15:40:37 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: fashion : I am in a dress, I am in a mess Message-ID: Hello! Actually, I am not in a dress but in a silverish grey pencil skirt and baby blue tight wolly jumper.I am afraid it is not very fashionable in the B&S fans' way, but it is true. But I don't even know yet what it is that I should not get in any case, that's puffer or puffa jackets or whatever... My question is : 'I am in a mess...etc' is it a quote from some song? >From which, if it is really? XXXXOOOOOXXXXXX Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From a-and-r at xxx.uk Sun Nov 29 16:08:22 1998 From: a-and-r at xxx.uk (Katrina) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 16:08:22 +0000 Subject: Sinister: New Extended Play Record References: <199811291037_MC2-61DB-551F@compuserve.com> Message-ID: <36617176.94E92846@jeepster.co.uk> Hello people, David Moore wrote: > Question to Mr Symington: where was the animal photo taken, or taken from? Do you mean the shot on the booklet? It's actually a photo of the fountain in Kelvingrove Park, which i'm assuming Stuart took. Has anyone recognised the cover star yet? ... just keeping you guessing. :) With regards to the colour of the sleeve, i reckon it's orange, like a rusty orangey-brown. When Stuart and Andrew were designing the sleeve, i asked what colour it was and Andrew said it was a dirty type brown, the exact same shade used for the poster for the Kelvingrove concert ... even though David and i were selling those posters i still can't remember them. rust ... probably the best description. Cheers, Katrina. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheAdwiz at xxx.com Sun Nov 29 19:32:06 1998 From: TheAdwiz at xxx.com (TheAdwiz at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:32:06 EST Subject: Sinister: List crush II - this time it's personal Message-ID: has this gone too far? i ponder. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sun Nov 29 13:39:09 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 13:39:09 +0000 Subject: Sinister: dirty dream video. References: <2e5b45d.3661169c@aol.com> Message-ID: <36614E7D.6A230BC6@jeepster.co.uk> Thessaly1 at aol.com wrote: > > i liked stuart's idea when he asked if any of us wanted to make the video for > dirty dream two. he is actually serious about letting us submit videos? i > have a friend who's roommate is a filmmaker and i can get a hold of a video > camera. i have plenty of ideas for a video and would LOVE to film them and > see what happens! > > dreaming of a dirty dream two video treatment, he is serious, the band are hectic at the moment, doing a modern rock song video and preparing to head back into the studio, and delabel (the french label) would really like to be able to continue to promote the album. so if you're really interested then there are a couple of things you should do: 1- make sure you've got a showreel (a short film clip that you've shot just showing what you've done before and what you can do) of something you've done, put it on VHS and mail that in envelope with... 2- a treatment for the 'dirty dream...' video that you would like to shoot. a treatment is a written storyboard type thing explaining exactly what the video would look like and when things in the video happen. it is not just a written idea, it's very detailed and literally explains every shot you would do in advance of filming it. a good treatment would allow the reader to know in his/her head exactly what the video would look like. you should then post these in to us at the postal address (snail mail) below, when they arrive they'll be forwarded by first class directly to stuart m or the band's office. then it'll be up to the band to decide which one gets picked :) david PS: band involvement in the video is not guaranteed since they'll be recording soon, you should try and write two treatments if you were hoping to have them in the video, one with them in the video, and the other one not featuring the band at all. PPS: the french will be pay for it, but remember that this won't get a you a large budget, so thinking along the lines of a 'will smith' video will probably make them go bust and as such, will ensure yours isn't picked. a good idea will see you further than a large budget proposal. PPPS: good luck! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From shop at xxx.uk Sun Nov 29 19:42:51 1998 From: shop at xxx.uk (david kitchen - jeepster) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 19:42:51 +0000 Subject: Sinister: List crush II - this time it's personal References: Message-ID: <3661A3BB.2E9DE0@jeepster.co.uk> TheAdwiz at aol.com wrote: > > has this gone too far? > i ponder. precisely what i was thinking when i was working on the script! it's also what katrina was shouting at me, but since she's got two votes already and i have none, i'm sure she'll like it now :) but anyhow, i thought i'd lay the grammar thing to rest now that i'm in a position to do so. i met and spoke to amelia (heavenly, marine research) last night and remembered that some said taht it was she that said the 'she and me' thing. well, she laughed and said that she couldn't believe that it's caused so many arguments, and she told me the answer. it isn't possible to use 'she and me' in a sentence, absolutely not! but the exception she had mentioned was a personal joke, she has a friend 'sheila' and her name is obviously ameila, the exception was 'She and Me' being abbreviated versions of their names. so there we are laid to rest to never rear it's head on the list again :) the archives are v. cool now btw way, nice work paul :) david ----------------------------------------------------------------------- david kitchen : jeepster recordings ltd http://www.jeepster.co.uk/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/belleandsebastian/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/salako/ http://www.jeepster.co.uk/snowpatrol/ mailto:shop at jeepster.co.uk jeepster recordings ltd, 217 canalot, 222 kensal road, london w10 5bn to subscribe to the news mailing list mail majordomo at jeepster.co.uk with the words 'subscribe news' in the body of the message there is no need to subscribe if you are on the 'sinister' list +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Niceaction at xxx.com Sun Nov 29 19:56:39 1998 From: Niceaction at xxx.com (Niceaction at xxx.com) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:56:39 EST Subject: Sinister: Modern Rock Song Star Message-ID: <640c7a44.3661a6f7@aol.com> Evening people, ok, who is the cover start of Modern Rock Star e.p. ?? it looks a bit like Ian Brodie, but i dont think B&S would hang around with him since he sold out with that footy song. It could be Stuart David, but there is no sign of Karn anywhere so i doubt it is him. And what is he looking at ?? he has quite an inquisitive look on his face, almost as if he is watching something he shouldnt be, like two dogs going at it with each other.Two Male dogs actually !! isnt that one of the funniest things to see ever.. i dunno, it must be my sense of humour i guess. Is the cover star wearing large flying glasses, or are they really cool glasses straight from the "box of items needed to impersonate Elvis" ?? Im off, take it easy Jamie In my cd player - Erik Satie - Piano Music +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From sarah at xxx.uk Sun Nov 29 20:16:34 1998 From: sarah at xxx.uk (Sarah) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 20:16:34 -0000 Subject: Sinister: just thought I'd say some things, i have B&S content to, who will buy my shares?? Message-ID: <000001be1bd5$290797a0$584d989e@elsato97> I haven't got anything in my CD player, but my WINAMP player has got THE BUGALOO'S on repeat. Its more enjoyable than you would think! I've just been to the list crush site, yes, it has gone too far, but I've seen I have three votes, so I don't mind!! Now my WINAMP player has JAMIE AND THE MAGIC TORCH ON. WOW. ITS PUNK!!! The start IS Radios in Motion by XTC.....I used to love Jamie...but no-one remembered it :( I am happy. Isn't downloading things like the old KIAORA advert and kids TV themes just so COOL! We're off to Button Moooooon, we'll follow Mister Spooooon Button Mooooon! Butooon Mooooo-oooooooon!!!! Oon! THe Pixies sing about you. ...they think they are you. THats scary. They sing 'I am Oon, chien andalucia...', but you arne't an Andalucian dog, oh well never mind, Sarah? (What?) GO HOME. OK.... My fanzine is goin gvery well. I have B&S in it. I haven't asked them yet, but I don't thnk Stuart David would like it, perhaps cos I have refered to him as 'smelly' throughout....! I also have some Melys stuff, a band from 'round ere' called Quick Fade, a loevly article on WHY EVERYTHING IS SHIT, and then a page about chocolates. And the front cover has a picture of Audrey Hepburn on it cos she's pretty. THe zine is called COCK FUN. Now I have INSPECTOR GADGET ON!!!!!!!! Inspector Gadget ...woo woo! Go Gadget Go!!!! boop boop! I think B&S are more inspired by the theme tune to Rainbow than anything else. Richard is anyway, with that funky drumbeat at the end...and that recorder has OBVIOUSLY inspired Sarah and Isobel, durr. I bet Stuart M first got an acoustical geetar so he could play along to Rainbow. If you come through you're gonna have yourself a scooby snack, thats a fact! I really recommend tv.cream.org Its....unbelievably good.... I'M GOING NOW BYE!!!!!! Fluffy Candarel +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From k.watson at xxx.uk Mon Nov 30 00:07:32 1998 From: k.watson at xxx.uk (Keith Watson) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:07:32 -0000 Subject: Sinister: After filling my fat face In-Reply-To: <36609EAC.9C26527@bigfoot.com> Message-ID: <000001be1bf5$6d9e9740$799375c2@quartz> Reid wrote: <> Haha, it is Louder than Bombs isn't it. I knew it reminded me of something. I suppose by that theory then Dog on Wheels is Destroy the Heart by the House of Love. I'd also agree with Reid on the "intro to If you're feeling sinister" issue. It's definitely the electric guitar volume knob trick. Perhaps that's one for the Continually Asked Questions file. Sarah loves Jamie and his Magic Stash, what a top Children's program that was. For those who haven't seen it, Jamie at night under his bed finds a magic "torch", which then whisks him down a psychedelically swirling helter-skelter hole in his floor to a place where there's a policeman on a wheel and a strange airship not unlike Richard Branson's efforts sailing about in the sky. The place bears an uncanny resemblance to Pepperland and it should definitely not be kids viewing. What particularly worries me is that Jamie looks like me. Sarah, I dunno if you've noticed, but one of the contributors to the TV Cream site is none other than our own Roddddderney Beggerbie. Better get him on the job again, cause the TV Cream site doesn't contain an entry for Kojak. That's no good is it. Talking of the TV shite, on seeing Health Secretary Frank Dobson on the telly the other day, I was sitting with a friend and suddenly couldn't help myself but to sing "He's the gaffer", cause he is isn't he! He looks exactly like Bill Maynard. You know, someone told me recently that the bloke who did the daft jump through the high jump in Gregory's girl, was in fact Raymond McGinley from Teenage Fanclub. Who'd have believed that? That's an example of childhood talent coming through akin to Cheggars appearing in Polanski's Macbeth. OK. Better go to bed now. After all it is work tomorrow Goodnight chums, Keith. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 4224 bytes Desc: not available URL: From Pulpbot at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 05:09:33 1998 From: Pulpbot at xxx.com (Pulpbot at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 00:09:33 EST Subject: Sinister: re: being alone Message-ID: >>why can't i be happy being alone, and why isn't that okay with >>everyone else? not everyone is meant for someone. >What I learned is that if you want to be happy being alone, >everybody else will be =perfectly= happy with that decision. Like >me, say. Har har. Ouchie. >>I have been wondering about that a lot .. I am a loner most of the time cos I am very narrowminded and need to get my own way ..and can't amuse myself like everybody else (I don't to) ...hell, as an only child I always thought that I'd written the book on being alone, but then I read Sartre, you know? The more happiness I experience, the more it dawns on me that there is no one person/place/job/whatever that can ever totally push away the pain that comes with being alive, unless you're some idiot in total denial. These thoughts generally occur to me on Sunday afternoon, or whenever I hear football games on television, oddly enough. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aadam at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 04:58:31 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (It's me!) Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 23:58:31 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Jason Broccardo please write me Message-ID: <366225ED.4723@interaccess.com> Sorry list, I hate to do this but Jason's mail doesn't seem to be working for me. Jason, got it OK. Big thanks. Must reciprocate asap. aadam at interaccess.com +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aadam at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 06:29:18 1998 From: aadam at xxx.com (It's me!) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 01:29:18 -0500 Subject: Sinister: Speed The Plough References: <199811291154.LAA15810@envy.ph.ed.ac.uk> Message-ID: <36623B26.5040@interaccess.com> "annastasia saffrone" asked: > > > have any listees heard of speed the plough?? Yeah, great stuff. I especially recommend the first album (self-titled). The 2nd is good too (Wonder Wheel). After that I wasn't as excited. All are avalable from East Side Digital records. > the band consists of members from the feelies/luna/yang wu???? Feelies yes, Luna no, _Yung_ Wu same as Feelies. Once the Feelies broke up Brenda made STP more perminent. But not to be overlooked is the three piece (STP is at least 5 or 6) Wild Carnation which she and another STPer were (are?) in. They used to do one or two STP songs live. STP never toured much... > i would love to float under any circumstances Notice the moment right before you go to sleep happy. Aadam +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From belleandsebastian at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 11:47:42 1998 From: belleandsebastian at xxx.com (Karen David) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 98 11:47:42 UT Subject: Sinister: Give Us A Hand - Get On The Telly Message-ID: Hey Kids, Just wondering if I could ask a favour of you all. Yorkshire TV are making some sort of TV programme with the NME, and there's going to be a bit on us in it. Anyway, we're looking for people who have might have some sort of interesting anecdote involving, or revolving around, B&S. Maybe you pulled at a gig, or even crashed and burned with some lovely in a B&S t-shirt. It doesn't even have to be about love. Just anything interesting really. There's not too much time, so if you can think of anything, mail me at belleandsebastian at classic.msn.com as soon as you can, otherwie we won't get on the telly, and either will you, or your voice at least. Don't Be Shy, Cheers, Neil +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From rmckay at xxx.edu Mon Nov 30 12:50:49 1998 From: rmckay at xxx.edu (baggy trousers) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 07:50:49 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: stuart murdoch rides a cockhorse Message-ID: ummm..errr..hehe..sorry about that one :) heya its been rather quiet about these parts lately and its so very weird to check my mailbox and not have 50 sinister messages from one day! the calm after the storm perhaps? or just the 10mins of almost utter and complete silence after mum's told you off for being a naughty child (believe me, i know how that goes, ive got 2 mums), but wait until the silence wears off, oh yes, then the child starts screaming again! ok my real point, there is a point to all things, you know: i was looking about a couple of online cd places yesterday and i came across one place selling copies of the UK version of TWBTAS but in a gatefold sleeve..this isnt how the normal UK version is it? or was it something special released, or am i just completely forgetting what a gatefold sleeve is(i dont think so but these things have been known to happen)? im assuming that there would be no other difference (music wise) and its just the case thats different, no? off and swinging, tommmy gunn style, roberta apologies, im in a strange mood today! **oh you look so tired + "Rock'n'roll is the most brutal, mouth slack and wide + ugly, vicious form of expression - ill-housed and ill-advised + sly, lewd, in fact plain dirty..a your face is as mean as + rancid-smelling aphrodisiac..the your life has been + martial music of every delinquent crash into my arms + on the face of the earth..." i want you****** + -'jack the ripper' (morrissey) + -Frank Sinatra 1957 +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NeilD at xxx.uk Mon Nov 30 14:00:04 1998 From: NeilD at xxx.uk (Neil Dewhurst) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:00:04 -0000 Subject: Sinister: You're not whingeing anymore... Message-ID: <704AE307AB53D2119EE300805F7DF755E417@NCMSERVER> Dear all, Ooh, you dun'alf moooaan. But all that was put into perspective by Kevan Cooke's disgraceful opining, repeated verbatim below... If I can liken Basingstoke to a lump of shit, and I think I can, if you were to put a sprig of holly on a steaming turd would people stop and say "ahh, how Christmassy"? I don't think so. I hope lumps of shit everywhere get together and bring a class action in the civil courts against Mr Cooke for his appalling slander. He should realise by now that Basingstoke is, in fact, to be likened to the deepest, darkest pit of hell during half-term, when all the devil-teens are on holiday giving birth to devil-babies and ALL WAITING FOR THE SAME BUS AS ME! and preventing me from listening to Stuart in peace. I don't know if anyone's said anything about a wee interview with Richard Colburn in November's Raygun, so I thought I'd bring it all to your loving attention. It doesn't say much, really, but it has given me my idea for getting into the band. All I have to do is bump into a band member, contrive a conversation which ends with me saying "well, yes actually, I can play the glockonspiel", and quicker than I can put on my Arab Strap, I'm an honorary member. In my seedy player : Peter Stringfellow Neil xx +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk Mon Nov 30 14:21:20 1998 From: Calumn.Shearer at xxx.uk (Shearer, Calumn) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:21:20 -0000 Subject: Sinister: Lovely listees,vote for me. One and all, we'll have a ball.... (saddophantic drivel) Message-ID: Hello all. Welcome to the Calumn Shearer pop quiz and renewed list crush vote claiming attempt. aaaaannnnnd he's off. 1st - Belle and Sebastian porno movies. (was: Eee Ya Dirty Wee Booger #2 video) I'm not a filmmaker, but I know a man who is..... he's currently finished shooting the Johnny 7 easy-listening-umentary "This is Spinal Crap" - it's in post-production, so I asked him to apply for the job. With a bit of luck, he'll get it. If he needs extras (or even stars!) He's been told where to ask. more details if he gets the job. and on to some pop trivia, for the buffs out there.... I heard a song on that Mary-Anne "Calvin and" Hobbes show on Radio 1 (about a week ago) called "white with no sugar" or "I like it white with no sugar" It's damn fine - does anyone know what it's _actually_ called, and who plays it? It's doing my chuffing head in, so it is. a bit more info, if you care (which I doubt) - It's about "the new revolution" - towit: internet cafe's and e-mail. It's got a "northern" (that's northern england) bloke speaking, sort of poetically about being a "reciever in a cafe bar in manchester" (mibbe they're from manchester, mibbe not) and, and , and ,,,, it's got a great horn bit at the start. erm.... I hope that's enough to go on. I see the tall git's new list crush counters up, and I've got a vote already! yay! thank you who/whom/he/she/it/whatever you are. Reveal thy name, and I'll do my best to send you something nice - probably a tape, seeing as I've gotten round to "trimming down" that cupboard (I'll know if you're lying - I will! ) So - If you send me a list crush vote, I'll make you a tape. (SCANDAL!!! - Bribery and Corruption make it's evil way onto fluffy sarah's sinister list) hehe sorry honey ;-) there. that oughta do it. Love the archives, honey - well slick and a bit of damn fine coding going on in the background if i'm not mistook. Princess Honey's obviously smart _and_ good looking. (I heard she got the PhD from a mail order company in Arkinsas, but this has proven me wrong... again) oh, rambling now, aren't I ? See ya later, popkids. cal PS - I was unexpectedly in London at the weekend and sought out that bastion of belle and seb, the poetry place. but it was shut! boo! I'll be back down next week. I'll try then. I might even try to take Trous for a pint at the hogshead (see, told you I was there!) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk Mon Nov 30 14:19:00 1998 From: Ppyrrjs at xxx.uk (Robin Stout) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:19:00 GMT0BST Subject: Sinister: Dirty Dream Number Poo Message-ID: I think I enjoyed John W's Dirty Dream video description a little too much. Here's an idea of mine. It doesn't have Stu and Isobel bonking I'm afraid, but it does have strangely coincidental milk connotations. Here goes: A boy steps out of his door and walks along the street. Then he walks into another house where there is a family eating breakfast. They don't see him because he is dreaming. He sees the bottle of milk on the table and licks his lips. Then he walks out of the back door and ends up on a train. On the train is a businessman, who is standing up and holding a bottle of milk. The boy looks at the milk and his head sways as the bottle does. Then he walks off the train and ends up on one side of a pelican crossing. There are no cars. On the other side is a sexy milk fiend, holding out a bottle of milk enticingly and pouting. He presses the button and reaches out towards the bottle as he waits for the lights to change. But by the time they have the sexy milk fiend has gone. He crosses the road and ends up somewhere else ... you get the general idea. This is a bit like a film I filmed once where I was a sexy milk fiend. I was in a dress, I was in a mess, and I must admit that I quite enjoyed it. Ahh, you might say, this dream is not dirty. Well you wait till the boy catches the fiend and the milk starts flowing. That part's absolute filth. bye Robin +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From V0168JE2 at xxx.uk Mon Nov 30 14:36:56 1998 From: V0168JE2 at xxx.uk (WeeJay) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:36:56 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Get it here Message-ID: <199811301430.OAA09591@mailhub.solent.ac.uk> .....Chockaboy Checking in.... This video idea is very exciting... I'd like to say for a second that I'm doing a film course and I've got a showreel lined up already, but putting together a treatment even for 5 mins involves a great chunk of creativity, so... Would anyone like to collaborate with someone who's got a little training? Please? Oh, and I managed to finally get around to scanning in a picture today, which can be found at the site below by clicking on the 'WJ Pages' link... It's the only one I have with me, a really cringey one from my NUS card with a black smudge on my face, and it's really small so the quality is terrible but I think you can get an idea from it... I've had a look at the new look site and cast my vote already, and I was very pleased to see that I've got one m'self. Yes, you know it's the right thing :) Anyway, the Duke, in his finite but nevertheless rather large wisdom said: > let it be bradcast from the roofs of buildings the world over: the > duke would fill, and i quote verbatim, 'Isobels' um, orifice' with one > thing and ONE THING ONLY. So, dukey baby, you don't deny the kitten mincing then, hmmn? Well, at least you only put it in there - Brad sucked it out, fried it with shallots, spread it on toast and served it as 'free samples' to the unsuspecting public in Asda. Oh yes. I must say that I really cant wait for this time next week - First a NEW B&S EP (that wasn't meant to be all in capitals, just the 'new' bit but B&S and EP demand capitals all the time you see) and then the rest of the week means finishing off here and going home to see lots of people I havent seen since the summer for hundreds of wild parties i expect. Maybe. More likely Charlie'll drag us all to some shitty nightclub and I'll spend a fortune on drinks and have a miserable time. Yippee Skip. For the miserable friend: Maybe you shouldn't try to cheer her up but instead give her some space to wallow in sadness for a while. Maybe you should give her 'Pink Moon' and let her ride it out as she likes. Then again, what do I know, I've once felt guilty for half a year for not being supportive enough to a friend who'd had a less than little family problem. Eighties movies are truly great, yes. A gang of us all laughed ourselves silly at 'Cocktail' last monday and today we're going to do the same with 'The Secret Of My Success'. I should explain that this is 2am post-club hilarity, not the sober sort. Well, I suppose I should be going now... Work do do etc. But I do think that the list is exceedingly lovely lovely lovely at the moment, and I'd like to hug you all if that was at all possible (applications privately please) but, well, bye! WeeJay XXXXXXXXX ....Chockaboy checking out.... James at twopounds.u-net.com "I know there's a lot of bass players in the audience tonight, I know living amongst the constructions that the people in power have built doesn't feel so right" mAKE UP - "We Can't Be Contained" http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/cabaret/5523/ (Which will no longer crash your computer. Hopefully.) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From NoelWhitey at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 15:12:24 1998 From: NoelWhitey at xxx.com (NoelWhitey at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:12:24 EST Subject: Sinister: dirty dream video#2 idea Message-ID: I've liked the ideas so far and heres my idea. Stuart(or Chris Could do it) goes to sleep and dreams He is walking down the street and goes into a club and the rest of the band is playing and theres a bunch of "Hot" girls walking around and finally at the end One of the Waitress girls drops a glass of liquad(hint hint) on his pants and when he wakes up he looks under his sheets to find a Big surprise.If you know what I mean. if B&S couldnt be there for shooting it could Be a wee littel boy intead of stuart.ohh and The whole video is in the Colors of Yellow and Green like The covers of Dogs On Wheels and The Boy with the arab strap. The only thing really Is I've never directed anything to show stuff I've done but I'd want to do this more then anything and I may want to do directing for a carrer(I've wrote A script or two and have lots of Ideas!) well I guess i should stop wianing and send my idea in. -Damon "You Gotta Be Yourself You Cant be no one else"-Oasis "Why Live in a World When You can live in your head?"-Pulp "Feeling Scared Today Write Down "I am Ok" A hundred times The doctors say I am ok I am I am ok I'm not OK"-Eels "Thats Irrelavent"-Thom Yorke "I wanna Talk Tonight About How you saved my life"-Oasis +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From kenny at xxx.uk Mon Nov 30 15:38:36 1998 From: kenny at xxx.uk (Jake) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 15:38:36 -0000 Subject: Sinister: cover stars, Message-ID: <199811301538.PAA16362@mailhost.dircon.co.uk> Hi there all, I realised how long it had been since I'd last written when, before sending this, I had to check the address. Anyhow, I've been saving up my comments for a while now and I thought that I'd say a few things. Firstly, I think that the cover star of the new ep is some guy who works in a record shop in Scotland, probably Glasgow, and almost certainly the cool indie that everyone was talking about ages back. Really I should know exactly who he is, as I was told but it slipped my mind. What I want to know about the ep artwork is: What on earth does "Soul of an unearthly" mean? I'm afraid that I do have to agree woth everyone else about the gate being a bit of a let down. It was the only one that I hadn't heard before so I'll give it the benefit of doubt and say that it could be a grower. I went to the list crush page to cry at the fact that I had no votes and I was going to put it down to the fact that I was listed but I am (thanks Big Stu). Which meant that people knew who I was didn't have a crush on me. But then I scrolled down further to see that a certain Isobel Cambell had no votes either so I am happy again. I was tempted to vote for myself just to increase my ego, but then decided better of it so I'm off to email my mates and order them to vote for me. Just you wait i'll show you Fluffy Sarah (I'm still holding that grudge for you saying I smelt of poo or the like:( ) And as for Neil request for people to talk about the band on the tv, well why can't we have a spokesman (Honey gets my vote) and get him to talk about the list. Or maybe thats a bit sad.......... Oh and one last thing, is Ed Mason still on the list? Email me privately if you are. I never sent that tape I promised. Jake (aka Kenny) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From asbuch at xxx.edu Mon Nov 30 15:38:05 1998 From: asbuch at xxx.edu (Heather Marie Propes) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:38:05 -0600 (CST) Subject: Sinister: post-Thanksgiving Message-ID: Monday. I just got back to my office. It's freezing. The heater seems to have died. I think I will die if it stays like this all day. And to think, 5 months ago I was living in Chicago. Now I can't even stand a Northern California November. Thanksgiving in California - Thursday - after the turkey feast, 6-7 glasses of red wine, and the obligatory chatting with the extended family, I put B&S on for those who were left. My cousin loved it, so did my mom. My dad said it reminded him of Donovan. Saturday - went driving around Hollywood with my cousin and fiance. Wound up at Canter's deli eating matzo ball soup and a knish (matzo ball soup is REALLY good - I had never eaten it before). We went to a club, waited out front 1/2 hour, then left. Went to a movie, "Waking Ned Devine," what an idiotic film! It was 2 hours of stupid jokes and insultingly ridiculous antics that would've fallen flat in an American film, made endearing because they were told in Irish accents. Yeccch! I hope this is not the future of European cinema. Anyway, just thought I'd post because I wanted to see my name on the list, and I wanted to rip that terrible film. Ciao, http://student-www.uchicago.edu/users/asbuch/index.htm#hometop Heather Marie Propes asbuch at midway.uchicago.edu +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From cp83985 at xxx.edu Mon Nov 30 15:42:10 1998 From: cp83985 at xxx.edu (Carl Polgar Jr) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:42:10 -0500 (EST) Subject: Sinister: dirty nonsense Message-ID: does anyone remember back in the mid to late 80's when madonna and mtv had a contest in which you could direct the video for "true blue" -- and then she did her own version anyway? does anyone else remember absolutely trivial crap like this but forget important stuff like your mother's birthday? anyway, my idea for a "dirty dream" video wouldn't really be dirty. it wouldn't even need to feature the band at all. it would just involve people dancing. in the streets, in some office building, in a classroom -- just people dancing. and not slow dancing (or dirty dancing), but really wild, hands-in-the-air, halleluia-i-feel-the-music-inside-me dancing. cos that's what the song makes me want to do. that's all -- i'm late for class. love to all, carl +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From amarnold at xxx.edu Mon Nov 30 17:02:49 1998 From: amarnold at xxx.edu (Alex Arnold) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:02:49 -0600 Subject: Sinister: Field Mice...No B&S Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.19981130110249.0069b2b8@students.wisc.edu> Hi there, I just picked the two disc Field Mice compilation after hearing so much about them on this list. Absolutely brilliant, but you already knew that didn't you? Thank you to all the lovelies who have posted about them or I never would have found out about 'em. You people have yet to steer me wrong. Toodles, Alexander the Lukewarm in my disc changer: Field Mice, Chapterhouse, Michael Penn, Frank Zappa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From dakota_ng at xxx.sg Mon Nov 30 17:13:09 1998 From: dakota_ng at xxx.sg (evilive) Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 01:13:09 +0800 Subject: Sinister: Field Mice...No B&S Message-ID: <01be1c84$b43cd920$4d4518d2@dakota_ng> >in my disc changer: Field Mice, Chapterhouse, Michael Penn, Frank Zappa chapterhouse rules. if any of you see any of their albums/singles, get it cos they're no longer made. same goes for medicine. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ooon at xxx.th Mon Nov 30 17:30:29 1998 From: ooon at xxx.th (oon) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:30:29 GMT Subject: Sinister: music sounds better on holiday Message-ID: <30FA8B52.2A6E7C60@samart.co.th> Sarah wrote: > Oon! THe Pixies sing about you. ...they think they are you. THats scary. > They sing 'I am Oon, chien andalucia...', but you arne't an Andalucian dog, > oh well never mind, Sarah? (What?) GO HOME. OK.... : ) you mean Pixies in some cartoon tv, yes? for a moment i thought it's the little pixies in the woods, calling my name. hence me promptly concluded that Fluffy must have been socializing with some welsh magicmushroom band. what kind of dog is Andalucian? anyhow i like this sentence, maybe i should put it as my signature from now on. in honour of Fluffy the Pixie. incidentally, my apologies to you and everyone i had the permission to take photo of. i thought i sent them all out ages ago, but my thought was not what really happened. meanwhile, a few of the photo is in the safe hand of Linda so it will definitely be handled much more effectively. my computer just came back last week, to my agony because everything in my old computer is gone. i no longer have anyone address. therefore, friends and relatives, would you be so kind as to email me again. andre, ed, tim (still not back?!), orange purple silver chalotte (that's fun competition : ), and big stu. (oh that crush thing! Thank you for the three votes for me, i'm in tears with grattitute. own up and thou shall be rewarded. sorry, i'm trying very hard to catch up. only 750 mails to go!) now i'm grinning very widely listening to our own sinister boy Christopher A. Leonard (clapping my hand very loudly) he's made a record! Robin Williamson should be proud. well, actually i only heard a few Incredible String Band songs, from Chris himself. never heard old songs much, apart from those golden oldies on 'Soft FM' 'Smooth FM' 'Love FM' radio we have here. how they bore me to infinity. but now, Thanks to mr.symmington who played wonderful songs back at the b&s shows and Tag who made me a wonderful tape, my eyes have been slightly openned to the mother of all swinging things-the 60's. how could i live this long without it, ashamed. it's been winter in Thailand this last week. cool weather is very festive i think. you can't turn a corner without falling into a beer garden. i feel like i'm on holiday already eventhough i still have to go to work. enjoy your winter everyone. love, I am Oon, chien andalucia +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". 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For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From frumpi at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 17:42:47 1998 From: frumpi at xxx.com (annastasia saffrone) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 09:42:47 PST Subject: Sinister: thread in m'head Message-ID: <19981130174247.14229.qmail@hotmail.com> i tend to store info in big blobs in my brain... speed the plough consists of members from the feelies/luna/yang wu???? aadam at interaccess.com wrote: "Feelies yes, Luna no" there is a big blob in my brain labeled luna and it branches out from there... speed the plough... i get confused b/c former drummer 4 luna was in feelies w/ stp brenda?? the chills are all part of that blob as well (bass player from luna)... as is liquorice (why?? opened for luna once in nyc) which makes me think of tsunami, ida (played with low [wow... who opened for luna once, luna opened for the cocteau twins and lou reed...] and mick turner (dirty 3) how could i not mention galaxie 500 and damon and naiomi??? (so wonderful) then i go to liz phair (stratford on avon??? hmmmm... might have got that wrong... will probably get this wrong: lyrics something like "i feel like i'm in a g500 video...") u know me, i'm the lazy gett... won't get off m'arse to check yoko ono... listen the fall is snowing and when i reach a calvin klein ad i get stuck precious blob, that, no? i'm unstuck i've gone on to rufus wainwright for some reason (oh, he does a gap ad saw it last nite while watching the x-files... i've linked to my commercials blob and if i continue i will surely digress...) jeezers, there's some music for you all to check out did anyone follow? anyone still w/ me? well sorry for this bit of tripe anna frumpi at hotmail.com ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pcxas at xxx.uk Mon Nov 30 17:45:16 1998 From: pcxas at xxx.uk (Arantxa Sanz) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 17:45:16 +0000 (BST) Subject: Sinister: un chien andalousien? In-Reply-To: <30FA8B52.2A6E7C60@samart.co.th> Message-ID: Hey! An oportunity to add something clever which is not in the X Files so well kept and watched by Honey (by the way, Honey is a physicist, isn't he?) When Sarah said Pixies were calling Oon and quoted : 'oon chien andalousien', I regard she was talking about the band, didn't you? Pixies usually introduced some Spanish words in the lyrics or references to Spanish or South American myths or habits... 'un perro andaluz'='an Andalousian dog' is the film co directed by the surrealism wizard Luis Bun~uel, and Salvador Dali, in the 20's and still considered one of the peaks of arty (never better said arty in this case) film ever.It is astonishing and devastating. I am afraid if Bun#uel was still alive he would create some masterpiece with 'Dirty Dream number two'.Perhaps something so stylish in its perversion as Belle de Jour. Some rich,French , literate , cool girl who dreams of become a prostitute because she cannot enjoy sex without humiliation...too wild perhaps. Oon sounds like 'un'= undetermined article in Spanish,that's why Sarah thought of your name Thanks for offering me a chance to say something useful and original, Fluffy , being a novice as I am! In which song they tell about 'un chien...? Arantxa +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ETLRDHY at xxx.se Mon Nov 30 16:00:24 1998 From: ETLRDHY at xxx.se (ETLRDHY at xxx.se) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 16:00:24 +0000 Subject: Sinister: Can it be true? Message-ID: <002566CC.0056FA5F.00@notes.ericsson.se> >Firstly, I think that the cover star of the new ep is some guy who works in >a record shop in Scotland, probably Glasgow, - The master Pastel himself????????????? +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: <19981130180714.24060.qmail@hotmail.com> "I'M JUST A LAZYBONES" That was a very beautiful poem, (congrats to Robin!) but i thought that the attempt to be made was to write a poem that rhymes with orange, month, silver and purple? and it also had no belle and seb content like you asked for... i am so very confused... but i did like the poem... a b*e*m*u*s*e*d* and c*o*n*f*u*s*e*d jamie ps. does anyone remember s*m*a*s*h?? and what of their side-project "auto-pop"? ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". 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Message-ID: <199811301821.KAA00658@macbeth.ienet.com> ah... back from vacation. the bitter wind of LA was in full effect as i waiting for the 'latest-bus-in-the-world' this morning. sigh. oh well, i worked on some much needed indierock dance moves on the street corner while i waited. i was still one of the first into work and had time to clean up my office a little bit, here are some of the things i came across: a) four issues of Playboy magazine (wa?) b) a sort of masterview type of hold-it-up-to-the-light-and-see-pictures promo item for 2 Live Crew's '2 Live Party' featuring three dark-n-lovely ladies, all of whom you can't see their face but you can see EVERYTHING else. c) a yosemite sam pez dispenser d) one copy of Screw magazine. (i have no idea...) now, under normal circumstances i would be considered the smuttiest of them all for having these things at my desk, BUT, the key here is that all of these items were GIVEN to me, so in my mind i cannot be blamed. is it my fault pornography is attracted to me like a...um, like a... ok, the metaphor escapes me, but you know what i mean. ok, now i feel dirty and i need to go wash my hands of all of this. -kelly ryan mcguire kellym at raygun.com "you never hurt much anymore, you wan't me waiting at the door to kiss you as you walk on through, you think i've got nothing to do but i'm not waiting anymore" +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From TheAdwiz at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 18:22:25 1998 From: TheAdwiz at xxx.com (TheAdwiz at xxx.com) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 13:22:25 EST Subject: Sinister: humvee? Message-ID: <58889e3.3662e261@aol.com> Can anyone tell me what HMV stands for? That's all i have to say. -Arye (who just bought a used copy of the velvet underground boxed set) +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From lorelei_27 at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 18:36:59 1998 From: lorelei_27 at xxx.com (lorelei tremelor) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:36:59 PST Subject: Sinister: humvee? Message-ID: <19981130183659.12487.qmail@hotmail.com> HIS MASTER'S VOICE > >Can anyone tell me what HMV stands for? >That's all i have to say. >-Arye (who just bought a used copy of the velvet underground boxed set) >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 18:55:17 1998 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 10:55:17 -0800 Subject: Sinister: un chien andalousien? In-Reply-To: References: <30FA8B52.2A6E7C60@samart.co.th> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981130105517.008b22a0@mail.hooked.net> At 05:45 PM 11/30/98 +0000, Arantxa Sanz wrote: >Thanks for offering me a chance to say something useful and original, >Fluffy , being a novice as I am! In which song they tell about 'un >chien...? I believe it's Debaser, a classic off Doolittle. Pixies '87(?). Seems like it came out around the time I just went to college. pants+/- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From pants at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 19:04:23 1998 From: pants at xxx.com (Chris Butler) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 11:04:23 -0800 Subject: Sinister: humvee? In-Reply-To: <19981130183659.12487.qmail@hotmail.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19981130110423.008d1250@mail.hooked.net> the dog insignia... or am I mismatching here with RCA? somehow the reference is similar, right? pants+ <- needs to back to school for more corporate history At 10:36 AM 11/30/98 PST, lorelei tremelor wrote: >HIS MASTER'S VOICE >> >>Can anyone tell me what HMV stands for? >>That's all i have to say. >>-Arye (who just bought a used copy of the velvet underground boxed set) >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ >> To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe >> send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to >> "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, >> FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister >> +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ >> +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >>+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ >> > > >______________________________________________________ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ > To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe > send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to > "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, > FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister > +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ > +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ >+----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From ajduric at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 20:54:15 1998 From: ajduric at xxx.com (Alexandra Duric) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 12:54:15 PST Subject: Sinister: for the heartbroken Message-ID: <19981130205416.24815.qmail@hotmail.com> Hello all, I didn't think I'd get as much of a response as I did when I initially posted, fretting about this friend who was dumped in the worst way possible, asking for music that would ease the pain or at least put it into perspective for her. IYFS won hands down over TBWTAS as far as which B+S album would be recommended (personally I agree - IYFS touches my heart on a different level than TBWTAS, which, in comparison, seems more light-hearted, less intense). Archel/Rachel said it best(Ryan agrees): "although b&s are not happy happy, they are therapeutic because they affirm life, in all its minutiae; b&s are about someone caring enough to write songs about the little people, which is why i love them. abstract depression/self-indulgence is not good for a broken heart, but boys on bikes and girls dreaming of horses can be." And I apologize if I didn't thank everyone who emailed me, so I'm doing it now. Thank you. She's doing much better; denial, perhaps for now, but no more crazy talk. Other suggestions, for those who may need to soothe a brokenhearted friend with music, included: Guy Chadwick's first album (thank you Julien, who is an absolutely open-hearted, wonderful guy) The Magnetic Field's - The Wayward Bus/Distant Plastic Trees (thanks Emanuel) the classic Gloria Gaynor's "I Will Survive" (I know someone who played that over and over and over... believe me, it'll make you laugh) Arnold - Hillside and I personally think you can't go wrong with "A Brief History" of Elliott Smith. And Lady P? We're working on his comeuppence! All in good fun, of course! cheers, Alexandra ps - hi Carly, hi Alan. ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From aszolnoki at xxx.com Mon Nov 30 22:44:09 1998 From: aszolnoki at xxx.com (Andras Zalan Szolnoki) Date: Mon, 30 Nov 1998 14:44:09 PST Subject: Sinister: Dirty #2 - the video series Message-ID: <19981130224409.8918.qmail@hotmail.com> Evning! I have this idea for the dirty two. One friend of the band is standing and waiting to take the tube from Plaza Bolivar to Sabana Grande , and on the way in the tube the friend put on hisher walkman and when heshe sits down it all gets blurry and the band are jumping around in a medow somewhere in northern spain , but oh what happens ! Rain starts to pour down and they run inside a cozy cabin which caches fire right after B&S close the door , but then Han Solo comes to the rescue together with r2-d2 and a whole new bunch of friends they picked up on their way , but their new found friends look just like packets of Marlborough or whatever and one in the band , they can decide this among themselves , starts to grab one of the alins by the head and is about to light its head when r2-d2 rams into himher and a huge fight breakes out , but then the song is over and the tube is at Sabana Grande and heshe take of hisher walkman and thats the end of the story. Well.. comments??? Andras ______________________________________________________ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ +---+ Brought to you by the Sinister mailing list +---+ To send to the list please mail "sinister at majordomo.net". To unsubscribe send "unsubscribe sinister" or "unsubscribe sinister-digest" to "majordomo at majordomo.net". For list archives and searching, list rules, FAQ, poor jokes etc, see http://www.majordomo.net/sinister +---+ "legion of bedroom saddo devotees" +---+ +-+ "the cardie wearing biscuit nibbling belle & sebastian list" +-+ +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From trarvild at xxx.se Tue Nov 17 18:12:22 1998 From: trarvild at xxx.se (Katarina Karlsson) Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 19:12:22 +0100 Subject: SV: Sinister: Happy Christmas Message-ID: <199812171813.TAA04939@mb06.swip.net> > 4. Why is A Century Of Elvis so low in the voting booth? > It's ace. But last time I looked I think it was sitting above London > Has Let Me Down Again. What's going on? I think people put it > beneath Fakers cos that is the "proper" song, but I think Elvis is > just as good, if not better. > > grrrr... > > Happy Christmas! > > Robin A very good question. I was going to ask this. Now Robin have done it. It is one of the best B&S ever have done. Perfectgood music and a story about an odd friendship that tells about everything that is importent in life. And a fantastic voice. It'smy favorit bed time story. A century of Elvis and spaceboys dream are maybe not typical B&S songs and a bit hard to compare with the more "ordinary" ones but for me are they among the best. Maybe someone have missed that Elvis is a fox. Today I found TIJANRS here in Göteborg, Sweden. I was expecting the worst after all I heard about the gate but I can't understand how peoples can kick on this little sweet kitten now when I heard it. I also want to thank everyone who mailed me about tigermilk I have a tape now. It came yesterday. Some things are faster then other. THANK YOU!!!!!! Har'e gôtt!!! 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