Sinister: She and me grammar

[Mark Iles]

>Incidentally I just thought of this: "Stuart Murdoch gives both of us  (she
>and me) severe heart palpitations" - WOAH is this it... hrm.  well, does this
>work?

Spookily similar to something I posted a couple of weeks ago:

>>Someone was asking why yu couldn't use 'she and me' in a sentence.
>>I think it's because the two words are different declensions (is that the
>>word?). So you can say 'she and I' (as in 'she and I are both wearing
>>cardigans') or 'her and me' (as in 'Stuart Murdoch gives both her and me
>>palpitations'). Errr... dull post this, isn't it.

An easy way to work it out is to leave out one of the people you're
mentioning. You can't say something like "Stuart Murdoch gives she and me
palpitations" because if you leave out the 'me' you get "Stuart Murdoch
gives she palpitations" which is wrong. It should be 'her' and not 'she'.
That's why I don't think you can have "she and me" in a sentence - it's
grammatically incorrect because the two words are incompatible being in
different declensions (if that's the right word). I think it might be to do
with one being passive and the other active, but I'm not sure.

Incidentally, you can use the same trick to work out whether you should be
saying "you and I" or "you and me". But for the same reason you can only
say "he and I" or "him and me". You can't say "he and me".

Pedantic or what?

				Mark



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